RE: Exam #642-891 BSCN/BCMSN Composite Exam. [7:74077]

2003-09-05 Thread Scott Tierney
Karl, did you find what you were looking for? It is my understanding that
the 642-891 is the only test that you need to take to renew both
certifications. That is if you are already a NP/DP. According to the Cisco
website, you are being tested only on BSCI/BCMSN. Atleast that is my
understanding.


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Exam #642-891 BSCN/BCMSN Composite Exam. [7:74077]

2003-08-17 Thread Karl HUTCHINSON
Has anyone taken #642-891 the BSCI and BCMSN Composite exam?  I have tried
to find it on the www.2test.com site to no avail either to book or its cost
in US Dollars, UK Pounds or Euros.  It seems to be replacing #642-841
Foundations which does not seem to be re-incarnated in any other form as
BCRAN has now to be taken seperately like CIT has to be.

The other strange thing I noted was that the CCNP recertification for the
future specifies #642-891 alone!  No BCRAN questions it appears on
re-certification.  What is happening to BCRAN?  This exam also is slightly
strange as it is only 60 minutes instead of the usual 75 or 90.  With the
dropping of BCRAN in CCDP where is remote access off to, no more Modems or
ISDN?  Isn't progress rapid or wonderful...


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RE: Exam #642-891 BSCN/BCMSN Composite Exam. [7:74077]

2003-08-17 Thread Karl HUTCHINSON
Sorry should have read #642-891 BSCI/BCMSN Composite Exam!


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Re: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-30 Thread Binoy K L

I do agree with JB

The strain behind building a quality book is  a lot. for that you 
have to
give a premium.
Don`t think that for reaching the heights, there are short cuts. 
Pirates are
not encouraged to be here.

Jeff, cut your movies, expense for other luxuries.. you will buy 
it..

All the best

BKL


On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 Abu Mwalie wrote :
Juan,

You have said it quite correctly.

The very best thing is to sacrifice and have the book. It is far 
better to
read the book than a PDF file, but more important, the amount of 
work that
has gone into producing the better requires payment!

This is a costly path we are following. Ask me, I have stopped 
counting how
many US Dollars I have spent on books! But I still have to 
spend!

Jeffrey, please just buy the book I have that book, and it is 
great stuff.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Binoy K L,
System Administrator
Wintech Computers
Kerala




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Re: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-30 Thread Chuck

if it is of any help, books and other study materials may be tax deductible.
Check with your tax person to be sure.

also, make use of places like Fatbrain and Bookpool. You can find some
substantial savings.

HTH

Chuck


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 I do agree with JB

 The strain behind building a quality book is  a lot. for that you
 have to
 give a premium.
 Don`t think that for reaching the heights, there are short cuts.
 Pirates are
 not encouraged to be here.

 Jeff, cut your movies, expense for other luxuries.. you will buy
 it..

 All the best

 BKL


 On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 Abu Mwalie wrote :
 Juan,
 
 You have said it quite correctly.
 
 The very best thing is to sacrifice and have the book. It is far
 better to
 read the book than a PDF file, but more important, the amount of
 work that
 has gone into producing the better requires payment!
 
 This is a costly path we are following. Ask me, I have stopped
 counting how
 many US Dollars I have spent on books! But I still have to
 spend!
 
 Jeffrey, please just buy the book I have that book, and it is
 great stuff.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Binoy K L,
 System Administrator
 Wintech Computers
 Kerala




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Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-30 Thread Persio Pucci

Juan,

your wife, too? :) Mine is about to kick me out, if I don't pass the written
this next Friday... :)

Concerning the book stuff, I totally agree with you... this field really
rips us off, so we better be aware of that huh? I've already spend almost
Us$500,00 on books, not to mention the tests, which my company does not pay
me back...

Regards,

Persio

- Original Message -
From: Juan Blanco 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


 Jeff,
 Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of
 behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the
 movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I
need
 them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same thing, they
 sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn the technology
 which will help them to move up to new levels, the same way the authors of
 many books whom worked very hard to put together a book that will help
 everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you can't be worried about
how
 much a book cost.This is very costly field, very costly my wife is
ready
 give the divorced and kick me out the house with my rack, routers,
switches
 and course many, many books...

 Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

 jb

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Bond, Jeffrey T
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
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 Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


 Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
 sharing.


 thanks


 Jeff




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FW: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-30 Thread GEORGE

You should try half.com I seen it around $15 bucks used.


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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

You tell him Juan,

No pirates here!!
Just techies trying to sail..Alot of us are just trying to swim..Or at
least 
learning to float!!

LOL!!


From: Juan Blanco 
Reply-To: Juan Blanco 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:09:19 GMT

Jeff,
Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of
behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the
movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I
need
them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same thing,
they
sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn the
technology
which will help them to move up to new levels, the same way the authors
of
many books whom worked very hard to put together a book that will help
everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you can't be worried about
how
much a book cost.This is very costly field, very costly my wife is 
ready
give the divorced and kick me out the house with my rack, routers,
switches
and course many, many books...

Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

jb

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Bond, Jeffrey T
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
sharing.


thanks


Jeff
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Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Bond, Jeffrey T

Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
sharing.


thanks 


Jeff




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Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Jay Greenberg

Sure, 150 bucks, and I'll even give you a *real* book instead of the
pdf.

Wouldn't it be nice if everything were free?

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 13:28, Bond, Jeffrey T wrote:
 Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
 sharing.
 
 
 thanks 
 
 
 Jeff




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Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

LOL!!


From: Jay Greenberg 
Reply-To: Jay Greenberg 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:09:21 GMT

Sure, 150 bucks, and I'll even give you a *real* book instead of the
pdf.

Wouldn't it be nice if everything were free?

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 13:28, Bond, Jeffrey T wrote:
  Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
  sharing.
 
 
  thanks
 
 
  Jeff
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Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Jeff, there are a lot of cisco authors on this site.  Be forewarned!

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 Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
 sharing.


 thanks


 Jeff




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RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Juan Blanco

Jeff,
Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of
behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the
movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I need
them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same thing, they
sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn the technology
which will help them to move up to new levels, the same way the authors of
many books whom worked very hard to put together a book that will help
everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you can't be worried about how
much a book cost.This is very costly field, very costly my wife is ready
give the divorced and kick me out the house with my rack, routers, switches
and course many, many books...

Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

jb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bond, Jeffrey T
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
sharing.


thanks


Jeff




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RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

You tell him Juan,

No pirates here!!
Just techies trying to sail..Alot of us are just trying to swim..Or at least 
learning to float!!

LOL!!


From: Juan Blanco 
Reply-To: Juan Blanco 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:09:19 GMT

Jeff,
Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of
behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the
movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I need
them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same thing, they
sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn the technology
which will help them to move up to new levels, the same way the authors of
many books whom worked very hard to put together a book that will help
everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you can't be worried about how
much a book cost.This is very costly field, very costly my wife is 
ready
give the divorced and kick me out the house with my rack, routers, switches
and course many, many books...

Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

jb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bond, Jeffrey T
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
sharing.


thanks


Jeff
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RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Symon Thurlow

At least you get to keep the important things ;)

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Sent: 29 July 2002 21:09
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Jeff,
Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of
behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the
movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I
need them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same
thing, they sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn
the technology which will help them to move up to new levels, the same
way the authors of many books whom worked very hard to put together a
book that will help everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you
can't be worried about how much a book cost.This is very costly
field, very costly my wife is ready give the divorced and kick me out
the house with my rack, routers, switches and course many, many
books...

Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

jb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bond, Jeffrey T
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
sharing.


thanks


Jeff




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RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Symon Thurlow

There are some reasonable places to buy second hand books (to keep the
cost down a bit), that probably still have the CD's.

Unfortunately, in order to retain the knowledge you will learn from
reading the book, you need hands on experience, preferably at work, if
not in your lab at home.

This generally (for BCSN) requires 2 or more routers (depending on how
in depth you want to do the labs etc) so the cost of a book is pretty
minimal in the big picture.

Try eBay, anyone else know of good second hand sources?

Symon

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Sent: 29 July 2002 21:40
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Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


You tell him Juan,

No pirates here!!
Just techies trying to sail..Alot of us are just trying to swim..Or at
least 
learning to float!!

LOL!!


From: Juan Blanco
Reply-To: Juan Blanco 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:09:19 GMT

Jeff,
Give us a break, on this group we are very negative to this type of 
behaviors, I just went and spent $120 in two books, I did not go to the

movies, I did not go outI just went and bought the books because I 
need them, like myself most of the people in this group do the same 
thing, they sacrificed them self and buy whatever is require to learn 
the technology which will help them to move up to new levels, the same 
way the authors of many books whom worked very hard to put together a 
book that will help everyone. My advise to you is, in this field you 
can't be worried about how much a book cost.This is very costly 
field, very costly my wife is ready give the divorced and kick me out 
the house with my rack, routers, switches and course many, many 
books...

Good luck in getting your BSCN'S PDF..

jb

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Bond, Jeffrey T
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
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Subject: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]


Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind 
sharing.


thanks


Jeff
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RE: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Abu Mwalie

Juan,

You have said it quite correctly.

The very best thing is to sacrifice and have the book. It is far better to
read the book than a PDF file, but more important, the amount of work that
has gone into producing the better requires payment!

This is a costly path we are following. Ask me, I have stopped counting how
many US Dollars I have spent on books! But I still have to spend!

Jeffrey, please just buy the book I have that book, and it is great stuff.


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RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Yes, it is focused on EIGRP, OSPF, and BGP. I just took it a couple of weeks
ago for a client commitment and it didn't stray from those topics (at least
on my exam).

Shawn K.

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 All,
 
 I passed the CCNA, and found it varied as far as what types of questions
 the
 asked.  Is the Routing exam the same.  So far the study material seems
 very
 focused on OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP.  Any coments?
 
 Rob Cluett, CCNA




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CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread Robert Cluett

All,

I passed the CCNA, and found it varied as far as what types of questions the
asked.  Is the Routing exam the same.  So far the study material seems very
focused on OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP.  Any coments?

Rob Cluett, CCNA


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RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread sunil sunilindia

No,


CCNA is very easy compared CCNP except the CCNP(switching), remaining are
not harder than CCNA, requires indepth study ,,,


Sunil


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CCIP-BSCI vs. BSCN [7:48861]

2002-07-15 Thread Brad

Can anyone on the list tell me the specific differences between the Building
Scalable Cisco Internetworks vs. Building Scalable Cisco Networks.  I am
almost through studying the BSCN for the first CCNP exam and am thinking
about possibly changing certification tracks.  Any input would be
appreciated.

Brad Dodds
WAN Engineer
Network Consulting Services
Missouri Research  Educational Network (MOREnet)




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Re: CCIP-BSCI vs. BSCN [7:48861]

2002-07-15 Thread Peter Walker

IS-IS

Apart from IS-IS BCSN and BCSI have identical blueprints. If you take BCSI 
then you dont need to make the decision to change tracks yet. BCSI counts 
towards both tracks.  If you are working towards a long term goal of CCIE 
then a good working knowledge (and experience) of the subject areas in the 
CCNP plus multicast, QOS, MPLS, Voice etc isnt exactly going to hurt.

Regards

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CCNP, CCIP, TISCA

--On Monday, July 15, 2002 9:41 PM + Brad  wrote:

 Can anyone on the list tell me the specific differences between the
 Building Scalable Cisco Internetworks vs. Building Scalable Cisco
 Networks.  I am almost through studying the BSCN for the first CCNP exam
 and am thinking about possibly changing certification tracks.  Any input
 would be appreciated.

 Brad Dodds
 WAN Engineer
 Network Consulting Services
 Missouri Research  Educational Network (MOREnet)
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CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread rtiwari

Hi ,
Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam.
Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your
suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Ravi




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RE: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What did you think of the test? Did it seem to have a good mix of 
command
based and conceptual questions (plus a few oddballs of course). I've 
been
studying for about a month and think I have good feel for the concepts 
though
I couldn't tell you all the options of the redistribute command.

Thanks!

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Hi ,
Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam.
Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your
suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Ravi




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Re: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread rtiwari

My exams had 69 questions and equally distributed amont ospf,IGRP and
BGP.
Test was not easy for me.It covers in depth details of BGP
and EIGRP configuration.
It was based on conceptual questions, ofcourse with many odd
balls for me because I don't have the hands on experience much.
I will suggest go through the details of the tutorial available
in cisco website before going to give the tests.
Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What did you think of the test? Did it seem to have a good mix of 
 command
 based and conceptual questions (plus a few oddballs of course). I've 
 been
 studying for about a month and think I have good feel for the concepts 
 though
 I couldn't tell you all the options of the redistribute command.
 
 Thanks!
 
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 From: ravi73 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:33 PM
 To: cisco
 Cc: ravi73
 Subject: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]
 
 
 Hi ,
 Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam.
 Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
 next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your
 suggestions.
 Thanks in advance.
 Ravi




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RE: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1

The answer depends on your experience. I spent more time working with
Catalyst switches rather than frame-relay networks. In my OPINION the Remote
Access Exam seemed more difficult due to the large range of topics covered,
but you may already have experience in frame relay, ATM, or X.25, etc. I
think it would be more important to keep your momentum going...

BCMSN!!

Best Regards,
Bill (CCNP)

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Subject: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

Hi ,
Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam.
Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your
suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Ravi




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RE: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the suggestions. I've signed up for the test this thursday so
we'll see what happens. I've been using the Cisco press Routing book to 
study
with. I don't know if anyone else has used that thing but it's probably
one of the most sloppy books I've ever seen. In the acknowledgements 
she thanks
the tech editors for their thorough review. I'd hate to see the thing 
before
they got their hands on it. I think they gave up at some point 
correcting all
the author's mistakes. Anyone have a better experience with Sybex?

Thanks again Ravi

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Cc: ravi73
Subject: Re: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]


My exams had 69 questions and equally distributed amont ospf,IGRP and
BGP.
Test was not easy for me.It covers in depth details of BGP
and EIGRP configuration.
It was based on conceptual questions, ofcourse with many odd
balls for me because I don't have the hands on experience much.
I will suggest go through the details of the tutorial available
in cisco website before going to give the tests.
Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What did you think of the test? Did it seem to have a good mix of 
 command
 based and conceptual questions (plus a few oddballs of course). I've 
 been
 studying for about a month and think I have good feel for the 
concepts 
 though
 I couldn't tell you all the options of the redistribute command.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ravi73 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:33 PM
 To: cisco
 Cc: ravi73
 Subject: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]
 
 
 Hi ,
 Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam.
 Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
 next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your
 suggestions.
 Thanks in advance.
 Ravi




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RE: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]

2002-05-20 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

If you're going for the Switching exam, a really good book is the Exam Cram
Switching book by Richard Deal. It covers a lot of excellent material and is
inexpensive. I found it very helpful in passing my Switching exam.

Shawn K.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I've signed up for the test this thursday so
we'll see what happens. I've been using the Cisco press Routing book to 
study
with. I don't know if anyone else has used that thing but it's probably one
of the most sloppy books I've ever seen. In the acknowledgements 
she thanks
the tech editors for their thorough review. I'd hate to see the thing 
before
they got their hands on it. I think they gave up at some point 
correcting all
the author's mistakes. Anyone have a better experience with Sybex?

Thanks again Ravi

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From: ravi73 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:53 PM
To: cisco
Cc: ravi73
Subject: Re: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]


My exams had 69 questions and equally distributed amont ospf,IGRP and BGP.
Test was not easy for me.It covers in depth details of BGP and EIGRP
configuration. It was based on conceptual questions, ofcourse with many odd
balls for me because I don't have the hands on experience much. I will
suggest go through the details of the tutorial available in cisco website
before going to give the tests. Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What did you think of the test? Did it seem to have a good mix of
 command
 based and conceptual questions (plus a few oddballs of course). I've 
 been
 studying for about a month and think I have good feel for the 
concepts 
 though
 I couldn't tell you all the options of the redistribute command.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ravi73 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:33 PM
 To: cisco
 Cc: ravi73
 Subject: CCNP BSCN Passed [7:44541]
 
 
 Hi ,
 Thanks to everybody in this group. I have passed the CCNP - BSCN exam. 
 Now I need suggestion that whether I should go for Remote access exam 
 next or switching as the next exam.Please give me your suggestions.
 Thanks in advance.
 Ravi




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Re: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

2002-05-10 Thread BELAIKS Ep-Ng-Ist

Could you please help us with the url or paths to those cisco docs you
used.

Thanks and best regards.

Joe

ashish 
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Subject: Re: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

docs in cisco site are also very informative... sometimes i find them
better
than any book

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Subject: RE: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

 Hi,

 I have the following;

 640-503 - Routing Exam Cert guide by Clare Gough
 640-504 - Switching Exam Cert guide by  Tim Boyles an Dave Hucaby
 640-505 - Remote Access Cert Guide by Brian Morgan
 640-506 - Supoort Cert Guide by Amir S.Ranjbar

 I used both Cisco an Sybex for the Routing i'm now onto the Switching.

 Good luck

 Regards

 Tel

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Re: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

2002-05-10 Thread ashish


   Could you please help us with the url or paths to those cisco docs you
used.

  Thanks and best regards.

  Joe

  ashish 
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  docs in cisco site are also very informative... sometimes i find them
better
  than any book


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  To:
  Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]


   Hi,
  
   I have the following;
  
   640-503 - Routing Exam Cert guide by Clare Gough
   640-504 - Switching Exam Cert guide by  Tim Boyles an Dave Hucaby
   640-505 - Remote Access Cert Guide by Brian Morgan
   640-506 - Supoort Cert Guide by Amir S.Ranjbar
  
   I used both Cisco an Sybex for the Routing i'm now onto the Switching.
  
   Good luck
  
   Regards
  
   Tel
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Re: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

2002-05-09 Thread ashish

docs in cisco site are also very informative... sometimes i find them better
than any book


- Original Message -
From: Tel Khan 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]


 Hi,

 I have the following;

 640-503 - Routing Exam Cert guide by Clare Gough
 640-504 - Switching Exam Cert guide by  Tim Boyles an Dave Hucaby
 640-505 - Remote Access Cert Guide by Brian Morgan
 640-506 - Supoort Cert Guide by Amir S.Ranjbar

 I used both Cisco an Sybex for the Routing i'm now onto the Switching.

 Good luck

 Regards

 Tel




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Re: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN [7:43713]

2002-05-09 Thread Michael Williams

I agree with Mr. Ridder.  Although I used the Sybex book for CCNA and CCDA,
I found the Cisco Press books quite sufficient for all of the CCNP exams.

Mike W.


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RE: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN) [7:43713]

2002-05-09 Thread Tel Khan

Hi, 

I have the following;

640-503 - Routing Exam Cert guide by Clare Gough
640-504 - Switching Exam Cert guide by  Tim Boyles an Dave Hucaby
640-505 - Remote Access Cert Guide by Brian Morgan
640-506 - Supoort Cert Guide by Amir S.Ranjbar

I used both Cisco an Sybex for the Routing i'm now onto the Switching.

Good luck

Regards

Tel 


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RE: Recommended study books for CCNP routing (BSCN [7:43713]

2002-05-09 Thread

Hi,
 I saw two Cisco press books in the market. 
 1. BSCN course book
 2. CCNP routing exam prep guide.
Which would be better from exam point of view ?

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I agree with Mr. Ridder.  Although I used the Sybex book for CCNA and CCDA,
I found the Cisco Press books quite sufficient for all of the CCNP exams.

Mike W.




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bscn test [7:40821]

2002-04-08 Thread NetEng

took that bscn test today, 69 ?'s and a bunch of time, but finished with
only about 8 minutes left. Equal mix of EIGRP/OSPF/BGP and a couple of
questions (each) regarding the rest of the exam outline. scored an
801..but it's passing.




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BSCN [7:39365]

2002-03-24 Thread G Z

Passed the test. A couple points. The test was somewhat difficult but was
basically memorization ,not analytical like computer science(programming).
It reminded me of history tests in the past. I used a boson test for 2 days
(test #1), it helped a little but was not worth the money. The boson format
was not very close to the actual test and it was much easier than the actual
test. I read the cisco press book. I have no network experience.
As what the test is worth, I'm afraid all the knowledge will be forgotten in
not too much time unless I can find a job in this area.
The format shouldn't matter, if you know the subject then you'll be ok.
Hopefully this will help someone and is of course my view only.


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BSCN Routing Beta Exam [7:38426]

2002-03-15 Thread John Danner

I took the beta exam this morning. I would liken it to being kicked in the
groin for 3 hours.

Are all the CCNP exams this long? Or was this just an added feature of the
beta exam?

Well, anyways, here is to the next 8-12 weeks while I wait for the score and
study for the BCMSN exam!


-John


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BSCN exam [7:32986]

2002-01-23 Thread John McCartney

Hi All,

Has anyone taken this exam lately, if so, what topics were targeted a lot.
Did you have to type the cmd a lot or was it more multiple choice. I hope
this doesn't break the NDA...

Cheers!


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RE: BSCN exam [7:32986]

2002-01-23 Thread John Allhiser

It had EIGRP, OSPF (single and multiple areas), BGP, IP addressing,
optimization, and scalability questions.  For more detail see: 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/64
0-503.html

(watch for wrap)

(If there was a FAQ, this, and similar questions should be in it)

John Allhiser

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Hi All,

Has anyone taken this exam lately, if so, what topics were targeted a lot.
Did you have to type the cmd a lot or was it more multiple choice. I hope
this doesn't break the NDA...

Cheers!




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RE: BSCN exam [7:32986]

2002-01-23 Thread Mnatzakanian Serge

I just took it last weekend.  Like John Allhiser says a lot of EIGRP, OSPF,
BGP  IP address summarization.  Not much typing of commands but mostly
picking the right command from a list of 60 to 70 commands in an exhibit.

I used the Cisco Press and ExamCram books.  Generally the Cisco Press Exam
Certification Guide series do a very good job of addressing test objectives.

Good luck.

-Serge.





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RE: BSCN Exam :( [7:32267]

2002-01-21 Thread Mnatzakanian Serge

I just passed it this weekend.  My trick was to REALLY know EIGRP and OSPF
since I am most likely to use those in my clients' networks, but then learn
just enough BGP so I could at least eliminate one or two of the answers...

Hopefull the 3rd time will be a charm!  Good luck.

-Serge.

Nuurul Basar Mohd Baki wrote:
 
 Hai,
 
 Just take the BSCN Exam for the second time, sadly still fail. 
 Lots off BGP, EIGRP and OSPF.  Spend 60% of the time just to
 figure out BGP
 questions. Heck BSCN is bit tough than I think it was.
 
 Thanks
 
 




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Re: BSCN Exam :( [7:32267]

2002-01-21 Thread ko haag

Try getting the Boson  exams for the BSCN and do better than 90 percent, 
plus read the
exam cram for the BSCN before you take the test.

Good luck.

Ko
Mnatzakanian Serge wrote:

 I just passed it this weekend.  My trick was to REALLY know EIGRP and OSPF
 since I am most likely to use those in my clients' networks, but then learn
 just enough BGP so I could at least eliminate one or two of the answers...

 Hopefull the 3rd time will be a charm!  Good luck.

 -Serge.

 Nuurul Basar Mohd Baki wrote:
 
  Hai,
 
  Just take the BSCN Exam for the second time, sadly still fail.
  Lots off BGP, EIGRP and OSPF.  Spend 60% of the time just to
  figure out BGP
  questions. Heck BSCN is bit tough than I think it was.
 
  Thanks




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Re: IS-IS BSCN [7:27955]

2001-12-04 Thread Peter Whittle

Steve,

When I last looked IS-IS was not specifically in the syllabus for BSCN.
However, it is in scope for the new BSCI which you can also offer
instead of the routing exam. It is actually the routing module for CCIP.

This suggests that even if it is not on the current syllabus it is
likely to come on in the future. In any case it is probably useful at
least to have had a look at it.

Peter

In article , Stephen Neville
 writes
Hi group

Iam currently studying for the BSCN, i am using the sybex study guide.  My
question is i have gone through the book and cant see any sections on IS-IS,
yet the books practice exams has questions reguarding IS-IS.  I have looked
on the cisco web site but cant see anything about IS-IS being in the BSCN
exam.

Can any one clear this up is IS-IS a topic in the BSCN exam.

Thanks in advance

- Steve
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IS-IS BSCN [7:27955]

2001-12-02 Thread Stephen Neville

Hi group

Iam currently studying for the BSCN, i am using the sybex study guide.  My
question is i have gone through the book and cant see any sections on IS-IS,
yet the books practice exams has questions reguarding IS-IS.  I have looked
on the cisco web site but cant see anything about IS-IS being in the BSCN
exam.

Can any one clear this up is IS-IS a topic in the BSCN exam.

Thanks in advance

- Steve




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Re: IS-IS BSCN [7:27955]

2001-12-02 Thread Gaz

I did BSCN a few months ago. I wasn't aware that IS-IS was on the syllabus.
Pretty sure it's not.
I think the CCIE written is the first syllabus I saw which contains it,
although I would be surprised if it doesn't appear in the Internet Solutions
specialisation.
In fact I'm pretty sure it will be in the BSCI syllabus.
I bought Cisco Press BSCN and never saw it.

Short answer - No.

Regards,

Gaz

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 Hi group

 Iam currently studying for the BSCN, i am using the sybex study guide.  My
 question is i have gone through the book and cant see any sections on
IS-IS,
 yet the books practice exams has questions reguarding IS-IS.  I have
looked
 on the cisco web site but cant see anything about IS-IS being in the BSCN
 exam.

 Can any one clear this up is IS-IS a topic in the BSCN exam.

 Thanks in advance

 - Steve




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Re: IS-IS BSCN [7:27955]

2001-12-02 Thread fahim

Gaz is right,
There is no IS-IS in BSCN, so dont worry, go ahaed with your exam. IS-IS is
covered in BSCI (640-900) which helps you to get CCIP.

Fahim
CCNA CCDA CSS1
Stephen Neville  wrote in message
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 Hi group

 Iam currently studying for the BSCN, i am using the sybex study guide.  My
 question is i have gone through the book and cant see any sections on
IS-IS,
 yet the books practice exams has questions reguarding IS-IS.  I have
looked
 on the cisco web site but cant see anything about IS-IS being in the BSCN
 exam.

 Can any one clear this up is IS-IS a topic in the BSCN exam.

 Thanks in advance

 - Steve




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Re: Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]

2001-11-17 Thread Joselito Nuñez

Hello

You know any TEST CENTER

These TEST CENTER

www.ccbootcamp.com  or

www.globalaknoldge.com or

www.netmasterclass.net

What is it   you recommend ???


Thanks


Joselito Nuqez




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BSCN Route Redistribution [7:23732]

2001-10-21 Thread Jesse Loggins

When configuring route redistribution you are able to set a default metric
that will apply to all routes redistributed into a particular protocol. In
the case of EIGRP there are parameters that must be set, these are
bandwidth, delay, reliability, load, mtu. Although I understand these
parameters and what they are where do you get these real world values? I
understand that bandwidth is the minimum bandwidth of the route, but values
like delay. Where are those values derived? In the Cisco Press BSCN book and
also various others to include Sybex, they discuss these parameters but
never mention where and how they are derived. I don't mean what is delay I
know what that is, but how would an engineer determine what delay of a route
or link is in a working environment. Or are these numbers in the book
plucked from thin air.



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Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]

2001-10-03 Thread RB Jón Eggert Guðmundsson

I finally passed the routing exam on Monday. I used the following books:
1)  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle. An excellent book about internal routing
protocols like OSPF,EIGRP,RIP and redistribution.
2)  Internet routing architectures by Halabi. A good book about BGP.
3)  CCNP routing Exam certification guide by Cisco Press. An excellent
book for the BSCN exam.
4)  Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Paquet. I personally found the
exam certification guide better
5)  Routing certification guide and exam notes by Sybex. It is good to
read the last week before the exam. It do not go into details.
6)  Routing exam cram. It is totally waste of money.I personally like
the examcram books and I have used it a lot for the cisco exams but this
book is not good.
7)  IP routing fundamentals. Cisco press. It is about routing protocols
in general and is good for getting fundamental knowledge but not specially
for the exam.
8)  OSPF network design solutions by Thomas M Thomas, cisco Press. It is
better for deeper knowledge of OSPF.
9) OSPF Anatomy of an internet routing protocol. Moy (He designed the OSPF
protocol) it is excellent book about ospf and I will read it again for the
CCIE R/S written
10) BGP4 Internet domain routing in the internet by Stewart. I need to
read that book a few more times to compleatly understand it.
I took the boson test 2 and 3 and the questions were of the same difficulty
as the actual exam.
I work as a WAN administrator at the Icelandic Banks Data Senter and have
about 4 years experience with cisco routers so configuring ospf and simple
BGP is not new to me. Yet I found the exam difficult so do not underestimate
it.

I will now continue studying for the CCIE R/S written exam and I am looking
for buying a few books for it. On this list many people have read and
recommended books by Caslow. I looked his name up on www.amazon.com  and
found that he has written many books about cisco. What book(s) by him did
you read for the CCIE? Can you give me the ISBN number please.

This list have helped me immensely and thank you all for keeping this list
going.


Regards
Jon Gudmundsson




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Re: Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]

2001-10-03 Thread Chamak

Congrats


RB Jsn Eggert Gupmundsson  wrote in message
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 I finally passed the routing exam on Monday. I used the following books:
 1) Routing TCP/IP by Doyle. An excellent book about internal routing
 protocols like OSPF,EIGRP,RIP and redistribution.
 2) Internet routing architectures by Halabi. A good book about BGP.
 3) CCNP routing Exam certification guide by Cisco Press. An excellent
 book for the BSCN exam.
 4) Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Paquet. I personally found the
 exam certification guide better
 5) Routing certification guide and exam notes by Sybex. It is good to
 read the last week before the exam. It do not go into details.
 6) Routing exam cram. It is totally waste of money.I personally like
 the examcram books and I have used it a lot for the cisco exams but this
 book is not good.
 7) IP routing fundamentals. Cisco press. It is about routing protocols
 in general and is good for getting fundamental knowledge but not specially
 for the exam.
 8) OSPF network design solutions by Thomas M Thomas, cisco Press. It is
 better for deeper knowledge of OSPF.
 9) OSPF Anatomy of an internet routing protocol. Moy (He designed the OSPF
 protocol) it is excellent book about ospf and I will read it again for the
 CCIE R/S written
 10) BGP4 Internet domain routing in the internet by Stewart. I need to
 read that book a few more times to compleatly understand it.
 I took the boson test 2 and 3 and the questions were of the same
difficulty
 as the actual exam.
 I work as a WAN administrator at the Icelandic Banks Data Senter and have
 about 4 years experience with cisco routers so configuring ospf and simple
 BGP is not new to me. Yet I found the exam difficult so do not
underestimate
 it.

 I will now continue studying for the CCIE R/S written exam and I am
looking
 for buying a few books for it. On this list many people have read and
 recommended books by Caslow. I looked his name up on www.amazon.com  and
 found that he has written many books about cisco. What book(s) by him did
 you read for the CCIE? Can you give me the ISBN number please.

 This list have helped me immensely and thank you all for keeping this list
 going.


 Regards
 Jon Gudmundsson




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RE: Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]

2001-10-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Jsn,

Good luck with the CCIE/Wr.

Ole

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From: RB Jsn Eggert Gupmundsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]


I finally passed the routing exam on Monday. I used the following books:
1)  Routing TCP/IP by Doyle. An excellent book about internal routing
protocols like OSPF,EIGRP,RIP and redistribution.
2)  Internet routing architectures by Halabi. A good book about BGP.
3)  CCNP routing Exam certification guide by Cisco Press. An excellent
book for the BSCN exam.
4)  Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Paquet. I personally found the
exam certification guide better
5)  Routing certification guide and exam notes by Sybex. It is good to
read the last week before the exam. It do not go into details.
6)  Routing exam cram. It is totally waste of money.I personally like
the examcram books and I have used it a lot for the cisco exams but this
book is not good.
7)  IP routing fundamentals. Cisco press. It is about routing protocols
in general and is good for getting fundamental knowledge but not specially
for the exam.
8)  OSPF network design solutions by Thomas M Thomas, cisco Press. It is
better for deeper knowledge of OSPF.
9) OSPF Anatomy of an internet routing protocol. Moy (He designed the OSPF
protocol) it is excellent book about ospf and I will read it again for the
CCIE R/S written
10) BGP4 Internet domain routing in the internet by Stewart. I need to
read that book a few more times to compleatly understand it.
I took the boson test 2 and 3 and the questions were of the same difficulty
as the actual exam.
I work as a WAN administrator at the Icelandic Banks Data Senter and have
about 4 years experience with cisco routers so configuring ospf and simple
BGP is not new to me. Yet I found the exam difficult so do not underestimate
it.

I will now continue studying for the CCIE R/S written exam and I am looking
for buying a few books for it. On this list many people have read and
recommended books by Caslow. I looked his name up on www.amazon.com  and
found that he has written many books about cisco. What book(s) by him did
you read for the CCIE? Can you give me the ISBN number please.

This list have helped me immensely and thank you all for keeping this list
going.


Regards
Jon Gudmundsson




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RE: Passed BSCN and a question about CCIE written [7:21815]

2001-10-03 Thread juno vtv

Jon,

I think this will answer your question.
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200106/msg01128.html

-Junovtv



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RE: Passed BSCN [7:17522]

2001-08-29 Thread D Rick

Does the test has any fill-ins like the Boson practice question?


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RE: Passed BSCN [7:17460]

2001-08-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Juan,

Follow my RouterChief link below for advise and free Cat5K trainer.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: Passed BSCN [7:17460]


Team,
I want to thanks for all your help one way of another in passing my BSCN
test(wow it was hard), this group is great and I know many people feel the
the same way. Now to start working on the switching test, I have two
questionAny recomendation on which books to buyWhat hardware do I
need in order to get readyPlease I want to pass the test but at the same
time I want to learn in order for me to be ready one day for the CCIE(I feel
good).I would not have done this without God blessing...Thanks God

Thanks to all.




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Passed BSCN [7:17522]

2001-08-28 Thread George Yiannibas

Hello all,
Today I passed the Routing test.I must say that I studied more for this test
than any of the previous tests (main reason being that I had zero experience
with OSPF and BGP).IMHO BCRAN was a harder test.
Anyway the exam was fair and the wording of the questions was very good.My
method of preparing was reading Cisco Press Exam Certification Guide, a
little OSPF Network Design Solutions by Thomas Thomas, Cisco OSPF Design
Guide,Cisco BGP Case Studies (both free from CCO) CIM Routing Link-State
Protocols, CIM Distance-Vector Protocols and for final preparation Boson
tests. Thank you all for your help, three down CIT to go !

George Yiannibas
MCSE CCNA 



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Passed BSCN [7:17460]

2001-08-27 Thread Juan Blanco

Team,
I want to thanks for all your help one way of another in passing my BSCN
test(wow it was hard), this group is great and I know many people feel the
the same way. Now to start working on the switching test, I have two
questionAny recomendation on which books to buyWhat hardware do I
need in order to get readyPlease I want to pass the test but at the same
time I want to learn in order for me to be ready one day for the CCIE(I feel
good).I would not have done this without God blessing...Thanks God

Thanks to all.




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RE: Passed BSCN [7:17460]

2001-08-27 Thread Daniel Cotts

Cisco LAN Switching, Cisco Press, by Clark and Hamilton.
Building Cisco MultiLayer Switched Networks, Cisco Press, Karen Webb. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Blanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Passed BSCN [7:17460]
 
 
 Team,
 I want to thanks for all your help one way of another in 
 passing my BSCN
 test(wow it was hard), this group is great and I know many 
 people feel the
 the same way. Now to start working on the switching test, I have two
 questionAny recomendation on which books to buyWhat 
 hardware do I
 need in order to get readyPlease I want to pass the test 
 but at the same
 time I want to learn in order for me to be ready one day for 
 the CCIE(I feel
 good).I would not have done this without God blessing...Thanks God
 
 Thanks to all.
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BSCN/CCIE: Friday's Brain Teaser #1 [7:17144]

2001-08-24 Thread John Neiberger

No, Paul did not implement new subject header prepends, I did that to
show where this teaser might be relevant.  Okay, here goes.  Not too
difficult, but the idea is to learn.  If you already have this stuff
down cold, then please don't answer.  ;-)  That takes all of the fun out
of it.

Teaser #1 for today:

Suppose you have two links connected to your router, one of which is
faster and more reliable than the other.  You want to utilize both links
for the majority of your traffic but you have a few devices that you'd
like to use the faster link exclusively.  What mechanism do you have
available to accomplish this?  Do you have more than one?

How would you do this if you wanted to select those devices based on IP
address?  Let's suppose that this were video traffic with an IP
precedence higher than the rest of your traffic.  Can you use this for
path selection somehow?

Now for the fun part.  If you answer, please post a *short*
configuration example.  No need to get really complex, this is only for
learning purposes.

Good luck!

John




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RE: BSCN/CCIE: Friday's Brain Teaser #1 [7:17144]

2001-08-24 Thread Wright, Jeremy

Please refer to the Swahili Binary Conversion book to answer this...:-)

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From:   John Neiberger
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, August 24, 2001 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:BSCN/CCIE:  Friday's Brain Teaser #1
[7:17144]

No, Paul did not implement new subject header prepends, I
did that to
show where this teaser might be relevant.  Okay, here goes.
Not too
difficult, but the idea is to learn.  If you already have
this stuff
down cold, then please don't answer.  ;-)  That takes all of
the fun out
of it.

Teaser #1 for today:

Suppose you have two links connected to your router, one of
which is
faster and more reliable than the other.  You want to
utilize both links
for the majority of your traffic but you have a few devices
that you'd
like to use the faster link exclusively.  What mechanism do
you have
available to accomplish this?  Do you have more than one?

How would you do this if you wanted to select those devices
based on IP
address?  Let's suppose that this were video traffic with an
IP
precedence higher than the rest of your traffic.  Can you
use this for
path selection somehow?

Now for the fun part.  If you answer, please post a *short*
configuration example.  No need to get really complex, this
is only for
learning purposes.

Good luck!

John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: BSCN/CCIE: Friday's Brain Teaser #1 [7:17144]

2001-08-24 Thread John Neiberger

Dang it, I lent mine to a friend studying for the written exam!  I don't
even think he'll need it until he starts studying for the lab.  I hope
he gives it back, those are expensive and hard to find.

 Wright, Jeremy  8/24/01 10:00:32 AM 
Please refer to the Swahili Binary Conversion book to answer
this...:-)

-Original Message-
From:   John Neiberger
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 24, 2001 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject:BSCN/CCIE:  Friday's Brain Teaser #1
[7:17144]

No, Paul did not implement new subject header prepends,
I
did that to
show where this teaser might be relevant.  Okay, here
goes.
Not too
difficult, but the idea is to learn.  If you already
have
this stuff
down cold, then please don't answer.  ;-)  That takes
all of
the fun out
of it.

Teaser #1 for today:

Suppose you have two links connected to your router, one
of
which is
faster and more reliable than the other.  You want to
utilize both links
for the majority of your traffic but you have a few
devices
that you'd
like to use the faster link exclusively.  What mechanism
do
you have
available to accomplish this?  Do you have more than
one?

How would you do this if you wanted to select those
devices
based on IP
address?  Let's suppose that this were video traffic
with an
IP
precedence higher than the rest of your traffic.  Can
you
use this for
path selection somehow?

Now for the fun part.  If you answer, please post a
*short*
configuration example.  No need to get really complex,
this
is only for
learning purposes.

Good luck!

John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Recently passed BSCN -- Now CCNP [7:16152]

2001-08-15 Thread Kevin Welch

Just wanted to drop a line... I havent been too active on this list in the
past, but have been a member since around Feb, 2000.  I have recently
completed all the tests needed for my CCNP 2.0 Certifcation and now begin
the road to CCDP then CCIE.  I am also working on updating my web site and
some lab gear online (its currently available in limited blocks to
interested parties check out the link below for more info).

Anyways I wanted to thank everyone on the list for providing such wonderful
insight and tidbits of knowledge.  I have learned to how to find just about
anything I can on CCO, but if I cannot I normally can find my answer in the
archives somewhere (hence the lack of posting).

Time to go search for good CID resources  :-)

-- Kevin

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BSCN suggested questions [7:14095]

2001-07-29 Thread sami natour

All ,
do you were I can get BSCN suggeted questions.The
material is very confusing.I need these questions
badly.

Best Regards ,
sami 


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Re: BSCN suggested questions [7:14095]

2001-07-29 Thread Duke

Try the Boson tests for routing 2.0 They worked for me. remember that this
test might as well be called the OSPF and BGP test...

good luck
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 All ,
 do you were I can get BSCN suggeted questions.The
 material is very confusing.I need these questions
 badly.

 Best Regards ,
 sami


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Re: BSCN [7:12555]

2001-07-17 Thread Cezar Fistik

Hey, be very well prepared. The exam is very hard. It doesn't even compare
with the CCNA. I just passed it (yesterday) and I got 896. Frankly, in the
middle of the exam I was sure that I won't pass it but as you can see I was
wrong. I didn't expec this exam to be so hard. I got lots of OSPF and BGP
questions, many policy routing and some supernettting. That's all I can
remember.

Regards.


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 Taking the first step on fri the 20th (Routing Exam)been studying for
a
 while now...used the Sybex and Cisco PRessany tips

 Thx

 Chris
 CCNA




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BSCN [7:12555]

2001-07-16 Thread Chris Headings

Taking the first step on fri the 20th (Routing Exam)been studying for a
while now...used the Sybex and Cisco PRessany tips

Thx

Chris
CCNA


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Re: BSCN [7:12555]

2001-07-16 Thread John Neiberger

The only tip I have for that test is to really understand the basics of
EIGRP, OSPF, and BGP.  If you understand how those operate, that will
get you through a large portion of the test. 

It's a little too late to help with this test, but if you don't already
have them you should buy the following two books:

Routing TCP/IP, Vol I by Jeff Doyle

Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd Edition by Sam Halabi

The first does an excellent job covering IP interior routing protocols
and the second is one of the best introductions to BGP around.  

Good luck!

John

 Chris Headings  7/16/01 4:57:47 PM 
Taking the first step on fri the 20th (Routing Exam)been studying
for a
while now...used the Sybex and Cisco PRessany tips

Thx

Chris
CCNA




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Anyone studying bscn in Columbus, OH [7:12056]

2001-07-11 Thread Paul Elston

I've started studying for the bscn and would like to get a study group
together.  Anyone interested?
Paul




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BSCN [7:10403]

2001-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Folks,

Passed the BSCN today with a score of 896... fairly straight forward...
though I found I needed
most of the allocated time.

Came up against the expected areas... OSPF, EIGRP, BGP .. know these
well and you will
ace this test..

I also got the 'select the command from the list' format seems to be
the norm now

Okay I think Ill tackle the Switching exam next.

Regards, Peter.




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Re: BSCN [7:10403]

2001-06-29 Thread Eric F. Varner

Congrats!!  Nice score too.   I decided to tackle the switching test first
and will be taking my test on Monday. Then on to the routing test.

Best of luck.

-Eric V.

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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: BSCN [7:10403]


 Hi Folks,

 Passed the BSCN today with a score of 896... fairly straight forward...
 though I found I needed
 most of the allocated time.

 Came up against the expected areas... OSPF, EIGRP, BGP .. know these
 well and you will
 ace this test..

 I also got the 'select the command from the list' format seems to be
 the norm now

 Okay I think Ill tackle the Switching exam next.

 Regards, Peter.




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Passed BSCN Exam [7:10129]

2001-06-27 Thread Bolton, Travis

Passed the BSCN exam yesterday.  Got a 850 out of it.  Wansn't as tough as I
thought it would have been.  Just glad it's behind me.  Now onto CIT and
then I'll be a CCNP.  Thanks for everyone's help.

Travis Bolton




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RE: Passed BSCN Exam [7:10129]

2001-06-27 Thread Buri, Heather H

Congrats Travis!

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Passed the BSCN exam yesterday.  Got a 850 out of it.  Wansn't as tough as I
thought it would have been.  Just glad it's behind me.  Now onto CIT and
then I'll be a CCNP.  Thanks for everyone's help.

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Passed BSCN - 873 [7:9976]

2001-06-26 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi all,

Passed BSCN today with 873.  (2 down - 2 to go)
Dropped below the 900 target I set myself for the 4 exams, partly due to
lack of study time in the last week or so, but no excuses, mainly due to
gaps in BGP knowledge. Not done enough hands on to really understand it the
way I would like to. More work to be done.

I like the new (or I think it's new) way of selecting correct commands from
a list of many. This wasn't the method used on the Switching exam when I did
that a couple of months ago.
Saves us dumb Englanders spelling things like neighbo(u)r wrong and losing
marks, and I think it better represents the fact that the question mark is
always available in real life. I remember in a previous exam, typing in a
show command as sho through force of habit, then realising just after I
had pressed return. I've got used to constantly pressing tab now while I'm
doing config's just to drill the full command into my head.

Thanks to all.

On to BCRAN

Gaz




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Re: Passed BSCN - 873 [7:9976]

2001-06-26 Thread Gareth Hinton

Imran,

I used the Cisco Press CCNP library for routing and switching exams and I've
found that even the bits I wasn't sure on were in the book, I just hadn't
studied it quite enough.
I've bought a couple of the Boson tests and they've been very useful, and
pretty reasonable at 20 quid each (ish).
Ole Drews Jenson's site was pretty useful too, particularly for the
switching.
Thanks Ole, I didn't thank you at the time.
Regards,

Gaz


- Original Message -
 Imran Moin 
wrote

 Hi there,

 Congrats for passing the exam.

 I am studying for my ccnp switching and then routing
 exam and then remote access. What is a good place to
 study them from. i am referring the karren webb book
 by cisco press for my switching exam. where can i find
 some parctice exams??

 Thanx and  congrats again.

 Imran.


 --- Gareth Hinton 
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Passed BSCN today with 873.  (2 down - 2 to go)
  Dropped below the 900 target I set myself for the 4
  exams, partly due to
  lack of study time in the last week or so, but no
  excuses, mainly due to
  gaps in BGP knowledge. Not done enough hands on to
  really understand it the
  way I would like to. More work to be done.
 
  I like the new (or I think it's new) way of
  selecting correct commands from
  a list of many. This wasn't the method used on the
  Switching exam when I did
  that a couple of months ago.
  Saves us dumb Englanders spelling things like
  neighbo(u)r wrong and losing
  marks, and I think it better represents the fact
  that the question mark is
  always available in real life. I remember in a
  previous exam, typing in a
  show command as sho through force of habit, then
  realising just after I
  had pressed return. I've got used to constantly
  pressing tab now while I'm
  doing config's just to drill the full command into
  my head.
 
  Thanks to all.
 
  On to BCRAN
 
  Gaz
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BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]

2001-06-24 Thread sami natour

Hi all ,
two questions please ;
1- what is the official book from cisco for BSCN
2- I have 5 routers (1700 ) is that enough for a BSCN
lab keeping in mind I want to try BGP dual home.What
is the best equipment my company can buy to make BSCN
lab.Note :cost is not an issue.


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Re: BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]

2001-06-24 Thread Patrick Bass

call your cisco rep and tell him the same thing; I'm sure that he can help
you out, especially since cost is not an issue! :-)


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 Hi all ,
 two questions please ;
 1- what is the official book from cisco for BSCN
 2- I have 5 routers (1700 ) is that enough for a BSCN
 lab keeping in mind I want to try BGP dual home.What
 is the best equipment my company can buy to make BSCN
 lab.Note :cost is not an issue.


 Regards ,
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Re: BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]

2001-06-24 Thread Thomas

I just passed BSCN last week. For the study material, All I used was the
Cisco Press Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Catherine Paquer and Diane
Teare.  I also used couple of Cisco 2500 router to impletement the labs...





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 Hi all ,
 two questions please ;
 1- what is the official book from cisco for BSCN
 2- I have 5 routers (1700 ) is that enough for a BSCN
 lab keeping in mind I want to try BGP dual home.What
 is the best equipment my company can buy to make BSCN
 lab.Note :cost is not an issue.


 Regards ,
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Re: BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]

2001-06-24 Thread Michael L. Williams

Wow  I used the Cisco Press BSCN book as well as the Exam Cram Routing
book as a secondary read.

I appreciate your determination to learn the material for the BSCN, however,
is setting up a lab really necessary?

I know utilizing a lab is pretty much manditory of you want to pass the CCIE
lab, but spending a ton of money on a lab for a $100 exam seems a little
overboard.

But, it seems the 1700 should do what you need to setup a dual home BGP
scenario.  But I could be wrong...  It looks like it supports MBGP, so it
should support BGP too =)

Mike W.

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 Hi all ,
 two questions please ;
 1- what is the official book from cisco for BSCN
 2- I have 5 routers (1700 ) is that enough for a BSCN
 lab keeping in mind I want to try BGP dual home.What
 is the best equipment my company can buy to make BSCN
 lab.Note :cost is not an issue.


 Regards ,
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Re: BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]

2001-06-24 Thread Circusnuts

I have a large home lab (2 years in the building)  experience, but I found
all that got in the way @ times (with the written exams).  The Cisco Press
book  the Exam Cram is more than enough to pass the test.  Remember the
exam comes from the Cisco Press.  If you read it thoroughly the actual test
questions will seems fairly easy to answer.  If you really want to use a
home lab, practice BGP, OSPF  NBMA.

All the best !!!
Phil

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Subject: BSCN LAB AND BOOK [7:9695]


 Hi all ,
 two questions please ;
 1- what is the official book from cisco for BSCN
 2- I have 5 routers (1700 ) is that enough for a BSCN
 lab keeping in mind I want to try BGP dual home.What
 is the best equipment my company can buy to make BSCN
 lab.Note :cost is not an issue.


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BSCN [7:9488]

2001-06-22 Thread Gayathri

Hi Group,

Just  finished Routing, pass mark 690, got 862.

Thanks to lot of inputs given here and the kowledge shared by the experts...

Gayathri




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BSCN [7:9489]

2001-06-22 Thread Gayathri

Hi Group,

Just  finished Routing, pass mark 690, got 862.

Thanks a lot for the inputs  given here and the knowledge shared by the
experts...

Sorry for the repeat post ...there were a lot of typo errors in the previous
one.

Gayathri




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Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-17 Thread ElephantChild

On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Michael L. Williams wrote:

 I know that my brother-in-law swears that about every other question on his
 exam was BGP...  I had quite a few probably 20% or maybe more..
 
 But aren't these exams adaptive?  I.E. if you miss preliminary questions
 on a topic, you'll get more of them...   I don't know personally, but
it
 seems to be they are because there were times I'd get 100% in an area and
 know that I only got 3 or 4 questions on that topic.. then others that
 I'd get 70% in I remembered getting more questions about that topic..
 
 Can anyone confirm/deny this adaptive theory?

ISTR that they're not, according to cisco itself. Search the archives
for adaptive if you want more details. It was discussed before.

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RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-17 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.  Halabi's
book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still in
the works?


Yes, with somewhat different focus than Halabi -- the working title 
is Building IP Service Provider Networks. As you might suspect, it 
begins with the What Problem are you trying to solve?  In many 
respects, it's the mirror image of my last book, the WAN Survival 
Guide.  WAN Survival Guide focuses on the choices the enterprise has 
in the WAN, including multihoming, VPNs, and developing their SLA. 
The new book deals with how the provider responds to these customer 
requirements, and how it builds its infrastructure.

While there may be configuration snippets (which will include Juniper 
as well as Cisco, and possibly others), it's not a how-to-configure 
book. It's how-to-design and how-to-operate. For example, I will 
spend much more time on the applications of communities (including 
extended communities) than community commands.

Completion is scheduled for November, but it's flowing pretty quickly 
and I hope to have it done before then.  It would be nice if it could 
be out late this year, but early 2002 is more likely.

Incidentally, I was just part of a panel on Internet routing system 
scalability at the Internet Society INET meeting in Stockholm.  Since 
there has been confusion about the ISOC site, Sue Hares of Nexthop 
put them on her site at www.nexthop.com.  Nexthop makes the 
commercial version of GateD.

You might get some insight from another document, 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-berkowitz-bgpcon-01.txt 
on single-router BGP convergence.  That version has coauthors from 
Nortel (me), Cisco (Alvaro Retana), and NextHop (Sue Hares and Padma 
Krishnaswamy).  It's becoming a standards track document in the 
Benchmarking Methodology Working Group, and will split into two 
documents, one on terminology and one on the basic test.  The new 
versions will also have a Juniper coauthor (Marianne Lepp), so the 
procedures should represent a pretty good consensus.




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Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-17 Thread Sateesh C

I just passed my exam on firday (6/15).. I got almost 10 Q from BGP.. lotz 
on OSPF and redistribution.. my lowest score was in EIGRP.. make sure you 
know all the principles of bgp and routing methords.


From: lootch 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:00:26 -0400

I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I have
been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as extensive
lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
15th
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RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-16 Thread William E. Gragido

I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.  Halabi's
book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still in
the works?

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JC
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:29 AM
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Subject: Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]


I tell you what, there was not that much BGP on the exam.  Get to know it
well if you plan to work for an ISP, or just get to know it because its what
the internet is running, but for the exam don't kill yourself on it, just
understand the basics, its not covered that much in the exam.  Like any test
it dabbles a little in every category listed on the exam outline on Cisco's
page, it may seem dumb but if you follow their outlines you'll do well on
the test.  Don't get bogged down in detail you'll just be wasting your time.


JC
lootch  wrote in message
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 I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I have
 been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
 Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as extensive
 lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
 15th




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RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-16 Thread Kim Edward B

My experience was different.
I would say 50% of the BSCN test was about BGP and OSPF when I took it.
I took it around January of this year.
Just sharing my experience.

Sincerely,

Edward

CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA, A+



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Subject: RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]


I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.  Halabi's
book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still in
the works?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
JC
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]


I tell you what, there was not that much BGP on the exam.  Get to know it
well if you plan to work for an ISP, or just get to know it because its what
the internet is running, but for the exam don't kill yourself on it, just
understand the basics, its not covered that much in the exam.  Like any test
it dabbles a little in every category listed on the exam outline on Cisco's
page, it may seem dumb but if you follow their outlines you'll do well on
the test.  Don't get bogged down in detail you'll just be wasting your time.


JC
lootch  wrote in message
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 I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I have
 been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
 Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as extensive
 lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
 15th
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Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-16 Thread lootch

I have had different responses from two different newsgroups regarding the
quantity of BGP questions on the exam. so I guess its different for
everyone. With that I will finish up with Halabi's book (which is a good
read!) and move on to OSPF Network Design Solutions by Thomas Thomas which I
have already read once but will read through one more time as a refresher.

Thanks to all!
Alohas
Jason


Kim Edward B  wrote in message
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 My experience was different.
 I would say 50% of the BSCN test was about BGP and OSPF when I took it.
 I took it around January of this year.
 Just sharing my experience.

 Sincerely,

 Edward

 CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA, A+



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 From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:26 PM
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 Subject: RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]


 I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.  Halabi's
 book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
 Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still in
 the works?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 JC
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]


 I tell you what, there was not that much BGP on the exam.  Get to know it
 well if you plan to work for an ISP, or just get to know it because its
what
 the internet is running, but for the exam don't kill yourself on it, just
 understand the basics, its not covered that much in the exam.  Like any
test
 it dabbles a little in every category listed on the exam outline on
Cisco's
 page, it may seem dumb but if you follow their outlines you'll do well on
 the test.  Don't get bogged down in detail you'll just be wasting your
time.


 JC
 lootch  wrote in message
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  I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I
have
  been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
  Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as
extensive
  lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
  15th
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Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-16 Thread Michael L. Williams

I know that my brother-in-law swears that about every other question on his
exam was BGP...  I had quite a few probably 20% or maybe more..

But aren't these exams adaptive?  I.E. if you miss preliminary questions
on a topic, you'll get more of them...   I don't know personally, but it
seems to be they are because there were times I'd get 100% in an area and
know that I only got 3 or 4 questions on that topic.. then others that
I'd get 70% in I remembered getting more questions about that topic..

Can anyone confirm/deny this adaptive theory?

Mike W.

lootch  wrote in message
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 I have had different responses from two different newsgroups regarding the
 quantity of BGP questions on the exam. so I guess its different for
 everyone. With that I will finish up with Halabi's book (which is a good
 read!) and move on to OSPF Network Design Solutions by Thomas Thomas which
I
 have already read once but will read through one more time as a refresher.

 Thanks to all!
 Alohas
 Jason


 Kim Edward B  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  My experience was different.
  I would say 50% of the BSCN test was about BGP and OSPF when I took it.
  I took it around January of this year.
  Just sharing my experience.
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Edward
 
  CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA, A+
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:26 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]
 
 
  I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.
Halabi's
  book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
  Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still
in
  the works?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  JC
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:29 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]
 
 
  I tell you what, there was not that much BGP on the exam.  Get to know
it
  well if you plan to work for an ISP, or just get to know it because its
 what
  the internet is running, but for the exam don't kill yourself on it,
just
  understand the basics, its not covered that much in the exam.  Like any
 test
  it dabbles a little in every category listed on the exam outline on
 Cisco's
  page, it may seem dumb but if you follow their outlines you'll do well
on
  the test.  Don't get bogged down in detail you'll just be wasting your
 time.
 
 
  JC
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 have
   been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
   Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as
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   lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
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RE: BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-16 Thread Kim Edward B

If you read the Halabi's book, then you should be good.
Halabi is like god of BGP.
I like his book a lot.
Second Edition.

Edward

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I have had different responses from two different newsgroups regarding the
quantity of BGP questions on the exam. so I guess its different for
everyone. With that I will finish up with Halabi's book (which is a good
read!) and move on to OSPF Network Design Solutions by Thomas Thomas which I
have already read once but will read through one more time as a refresher.

Thanks to all!
Alohas
Jason


Kim Edward B  wrote in message
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 My experience was different.
 I would say 50% of the BSCN test was about BGP and OSPF when I took it.
 I took it around January of this year.
 Just sharing my experience.

 Sincerely,

 Edward

 CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA, A+



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 I would say that less than 7% was devoted to BGP when I took it.  Halabi's
 book is excellent and if memory serves me correctly our own Mr.Howard
 Berkowitz was going to be writing a new BGP book, Howard is that still in
 the works?

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 I tell you what, there was not that much BGP on the exam.  Get to know it
 well if you plan to work for an ISP, or just get to know it because its
what
 the internet is running, but for the exam don't kill yourself on it, just
 understand the basics, its not covered that much in the exam.  Like any
test
 it dabbles a little in every category listed on the exam outline on
Cisco's
 page, it may seem dumb but if you follow their outlines you'll do well on
 the test.  Don't get bogged down in detail you'll just be wasting your
time.


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  I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I
have
  been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
  Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as
extensive
  lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
  15th
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Re: 60 or 90 minutes for BSCN? [7:8607]

2001-06-15 Thread George Murphy CCNP

60

Kim Fisk wrote:

 60 or 90 minute test duration for BSCN?




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Re: 60 or 90 minutes for BSCN? [7:8607]

2001-06-15 Thread Remmert Veen

Hey Kim,

I just took the exam last monday, and I had 75 minutes to complete the test.

The following is listed on the Brainbuzz website (might be usefull):
 
Exam Info Exam #: 640-503 
Status: Active 
Time Limit: 75 min.  
Avg. Time: 54 min. 
Passing Score: 690 
# of Questions: 62 
Format: Form-based 
Difficulty: 3 
Certifications: CCDP, CCNP 
 
Good luck if you're going for the test!

Regards,
Remmert


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BSCN [7:8767]

2001-06-15 Thread Sateesh C

Hi,

I have completed BSCN exam this morning. Thanks for all the assistance.

thnx
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Re: BSCN [7:8767]

2001-06-15 Thread Michael L. Williams

Congrats

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 I have completed BSCN exam this morning. Thanks for all the assistance.

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BGP on BSCN? [7:8810]

2001-06-15 Thread lootch

I was wondering what percentage of the BSCN exam is devoted to BGP? I have
been using Cisco Press's BSCN book (Paquet), Cisco's Internet Routing
Architectures by Bassam Halabi (specifically for BGP) as well as extensive
lab time, hopefully this is enough to pass.. Will take the exam July
15th




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Questions from BSCN. [7:8530]

2001-06-14 Thread Haruki Sonehara

Hi.
My name is Haruki Sonehara, a member of ASE-April.  Though I have some 
questions from BSCN,
I have questions are followed below.  Could you answer them?


1. About Null 0 interface in using EIGRP.  (BSCN Chapter 6, p38)
I understood the function of Null 0 interface, but I'm not sure what kind 
of relation between
Null 0 and summary address.  Also, why is it going to be loop prevention 
to configure interfaces as Null 0?



2. From BSCN Chapter 6, p16 
It is said,


EIGRP will not build peer relationship over secondary address, because all
EIGRP
traffic uses the primary address of the interface


What is primary address, and secondary address?
What are they necessary for?



3. From BSCN Chapter 4, p16 
It is said


If the DBD has a more up-to-date link-state entry, then the slave router 
sends a LSR to the master router


Could you explain this sentence?  I cannnot understand in detail.  I mean
How does the slave router(Non-DR) recognize that there is more up-to-date 
link-state entry, nevertheless
the slave router discovered the route for the first time?



Thank you very much for taking your time for me.
I'm very pleased.

Regards,
Haruki Sonehara
ASE Trainee
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RE: Questions from BSCN. [7:8530]

2001-06-14 Thread Remmert Veen

Hi Haruki,

I just passed the BSCN this monday, so the theory should still be fresh in
my mind. I'll do my best to help you out.

1) ??? Guess I need to do some re-reading on Null 0. What I remember is that
you can use Null 0 in a route map to have packets discarded or you can use
it in some way with a summary address (but to make this work you need to
have a more specific entry in your route table, otherwise the result of your
address summary will be all packets discarded). I'll have to getback on this
one.

2) The primary IP address is THE IP address you use to point to your
interface. A seconday IP address is mostly used to make discontiguous
subnets contiguous again. In other words, it's used as a kind of virtual
link to connect two separated pieces of one subnet.

3) As far as I remember master/slave had nothing to do with DR or DRother.
Master/slave settings are negotiated for each adjacency. It is possible that
the router who came out the negotiation as a slave has a more up-to-date LSP
in it's database. That's the scenario described in the BSCN-book.

Hope this helps you out a bit, should need any more info please let me know.

Regards,
Remmert


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RE: Questions from BSCN. [7:8530]

2001-06-14 Thread Remmert Veen

Hi Haruki,

I just passed the BSCN this monday, so the theory should still be fresh in
my mind. I'll do my best to help you out.

1) ??? Guess I need to do some re-reading on Null 0. What I remember is that
you can use Null 0 in a route map to have packets discarded or you can use
it in some way with a summary address (but to make this work you need to
have a more specific entry in your route table, otherwise the result of your
address summary will be all packets discarded). I'll have to getback on this
one.

2) The primary IP address is THE IP address you use to point to your
interface. A seconday IP address is mostly used to make discontiguous
subnets contiguous again. In other words, it's used as a kind of virtual
link to connect two separated pieces of one subnet.

3) As far as I remember master/slave had nothing to do with DR or DRother.
Master/slave settings are negotiated for each adjacency. It is possible that
the router who came out the negotiation as a slave has a more up-to-date LSP
in it's database. That's the scenario described in the BSCN-book.

Hope this helps you out a bit, should need any more info please let me know.

Regards,
Remmert


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60 or 90 minutes for BSCN? [7:8607]

2001-06-14 Thread Kim Fisk

60 or 90 minute test duration for BSCN?




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Re: 60 or 90 minutes for BSCN? [7:8607]

2001-06-14 Thread Jon

I passed yesterday, when I started answering questions, the timer showed
1:15 and counting.  This was after the questionnaire asking me whether I
knew anything about the exam topics, and after accepting the NDA.

-jon-

--- Kim Fisk  wrote:
 60 or 90 minute test duration for BSCN?

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Re: Passed BSCN but..............? [7:7719]

2001-06-13 Thread cheekin

Didn't use any exam simulators so I can't really advise you on that.  Make
sure you know the three routing protocols' characteristics (both on LAN and
WAN env.) and how to redistribute them.

Good luck.

Regards,
cheekin

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From: Kevin O'Gilvie 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 21:20
Subject: Re: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]


 I am planning to take this exam next week, what Boson exam do you
recommend,
 and what advise can you give re: must know's..


 From: cheekin 
 Reply-To: cheekin 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]
 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:20:41 -0400
 
 I must have been the unlucky one over here.  Got a lot of scenario
 questions
 that tested me on the understanding of the routing protocols and
questions
 on redistribution.
 
 Regards,
 cheekin
 
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 From: Remmert Veen
 To:
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 18:28
 Subject: RE: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]
 
 
   Hmmmjust passed the BSCN as well, amazingly with a 919, just like
 you!
  
   My findings are completely the same, the exam was way too easy. While
I
 was
   preparing for tough, in-depth questions and a lot of CLI commands, the
 exam
   stuck at the level of 'What do the letters BGP stand for?'.
  
   A shame, let's hope the switching-exam will be of a bit better
quality.
  
   Regards,
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Re: Passed BSCN but..............? [7:7719]

2001-06-12 Thread cheekin

I must have been the unlucky one over here.  Got a lot of scenario questions
that tested me on the understanding of the routing protocols and questions
on redistribution.

Regards,
cheekin

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To: 
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Subject: RE: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]


 Hmmmjust passed the BSCN as well, amazingly with a 919, just like you!

 My findings are completely the same, the exam was way too easy. While I
was
 preparing for tough, in-depth questions and a lot of CLI commands, the
exam
 stuck at the level of 'What do the letters BGP stand for?'.

 A shame, let's hope the switching-exam will be of a bit better quality.

 Regards,
 Remmert




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Re: Passed BSCN but..............? [7:7719]

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

I am planning to take this exam next week, what Boson exam do you recommend, 
and what advise can you give re: must know's..


From: cheekin 
Reply-To: cheekin 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:20:41 -0400

I must have been the unlucky one over here.  Got a lot of scenario 
questions
that tested me on the understanding of the routing protocols and questions
on redistribution.

Regards,
cheekin

- Original Message -
From: Remmert Veen
To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 18:28
Subject: RE: Passed BSCN but..? [7:7719]


  Hmmmjust passed the BSCN as well, amazingly with a 919, just like 
you!
 
  My findings are completely the same, the exam was way too easy. While I
was
  preparing for tough, in-depth questions and a lot of CLI commands, the
exam
  stuck at the level of 'What do the letters BGP stand for?'.
 
  A shame, let's hope the switching-exam will be of a bit better quality.
 
  Regards,
  Remmert
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