RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know. Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired? Annlee -Original Message- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73900t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
From Cisco website Recertification: With the introduction of our new exams, we now offer an additional way for those who hold a CCNA to recertify. The new ICND exam now qualifies for recertification, providing a new option for CCNA certified individuals. CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To re-certify, candidates can also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any exam at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642. The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003 Here is the link to the previous quote http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_062403.html Koen -Original Message- From: Annlee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know. Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired? Annlee -Original Message- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html ** This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this email may not be those of the Airways Corporation of New Zealand Limited ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73901t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: Just so you know, there are companies out there that refund your money if you don't pass the first time. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Boson's guarantee is if you fail Twice within 90 days after purchasing the practice exam. So if you fail once and pass the second time you won't get you $40 back. I didn't do the new CCDA but I did the CCDP/CCNP recerts just a while ago. As the CCDA is only an one exam test, it might not bother you if you miss your deadline. However, if your company needs your certification for their Partner designation then I would suggest studying for a week, taking it around the 21st and if you fail you have time to recover, study the material you think you had issues with and then retake the exam. Cisco exam retakes require a 72 hour wait so in your case don't take the exam on the 26th since that would take you into the weekend. We don't have any exam centers here that are open on the weekend. If you do then your latest date for a first attempt would be the 27th. Best call Prometric to confirm when a retake is possible. As I said, taking an $150 test just to see it might seem more expensive than the Boson but if you need it then in my opinion its a cost of doing business - and besides you would have to spend $300 anyway to get your $40 back from Boson. If this is a personal cert then I wouldn't personally worry about it. Take it when you feel that you're prepared. (unless you don't want to change your resume...) Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Cisco Nuts To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Group, Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast? Can any one concur? Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!! Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was pretty straighforward. Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if you buy their exam?? Any one?? **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73890t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Yes, it was a typo. The exam was 642-511. Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] from the source. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/learning_recertification_training.ht m l Renewal requires certification holders to register for - and pass - the appropriate Cisco recertification exams. CCNA and CCDA recertification takes place when a candidate passes the current certification exam or any new exam, bearing the prefix 642, at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level. in an Adobe file FAQ the following is said: FAQs-RECERTIFICATION EXAMS AND AGREEMENT 18. When will the recertification exams be available? The CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE, and Cisco Qualified Specialist designation recertification exams are available now. CCIP recertification requirements are in the process of being defined and will be announced by the end of 2003. Candidates may renew their Associate level exams by passing any Cisco Qualified Specialist or Professional level exam with a 642 prefix or by obtaining a higher level certification. Having recently recertified both my CCDP/CCNP, my CCNA and CCDA have been extended to the dates that my CCDP/CCNP expire. Unfortunately it says 642 exam, the poster below completed a 641 exam was that a typo? I can't find 641-511. An interesting question is how long say, is CCNA extended? Completing one 642 exam doesn't make a CCNP. It has not been the case that an individual exam had a life except when a new version is trotted out. None of the print I've read so far says that the CCNA would be upgraded for 3 years - but that seems to be the only timeframe. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Annlee To: Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know. Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired? Annlee -Original Message- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Again, so what does this mean? Can I recertify before my certification expires? What if I re-take the CCNA exam now? Does the valid certification time limit start from the time that I take the new exam? I don't have to wait until my certification expires before I renew my certification, do I? If not, then why would a professional level exam not renew my certification based upon the time that I took the professional exam? I'm confused... Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Pintens, Koen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] From Cisco website Recertification: With the introduction of our new exams, we now offer an additional way for those who hold a CCNA to recertify. The new ICND exam now qualifies for recertification, providing a new option for CCNA certified individuals. CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To re-certify, candidates can also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any exam at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642. The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003 Here is the link to the previous quote http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_062403.html Koen -Original Message- From: Annlee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know. Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired? Annlee -Original Message- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html ** This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this email may not be those of the Airways Corporation of New
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73899t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
What exactly are you lacking experience with; IPv6, VoIP, SAFE, Network Design? This new exam is much more difficult than the previous version. As a matter of opinion, too difficult for an associate exam! If you haven't run across it yet, I also wrote an exam review located here; http://www.tcpmag.com/exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 Have you also read Pricilla's book--Top Down Network Design? -Original Message- From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 7:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Appreciate your feedback Willy.Thank you. Question: What do you mean when you say that you have given this course already a couple of times? Do you mean you are a Cisco trainer, a CCSP sort of? Any pointers that you can provide? NDA withstanding ofcourse!! This is the only certification left for me and the one I need to have my official CCDP cert. mailed to me and thus I have been searching the web for any useful info. pertaining to this exam? What are the type of questions, ex. a long case study for me to read first and then answer questions based on that case study? How many? Arcane questions on SAFE and IPV6?? What's the format like? Any specific topics that I need to dwell on? I am using the Cisco Press CCDA exam certification guide for the old exam as well as the new Sybex book by Lammle and Barkl (not very useful IMHO). Are there anything else like exams/notes that I can buy that would be helpful? Thank you. Sincerely, CN Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73778t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Just so you know, there are companies out there that refund your money if you don't pass the first time. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Boson's guarantee is if you fail Twice within 90 days after purchasing the practice exam. So if you fail once and pass the second time you won't get you $40 back. I didn't do the new CCDA but I did the CCDP/CCNP recerts just a while ago. As the CCDA is only an one exam test, it might not bother you if you miss your deadline. However, if your company needs your certification for their Partner designation then I would suggest studying for a week, taking it around the 21st and if you fail you have time to recover, study the material you think you had issues with and then retake the exam. Cisco exam retakes require a 72 hour wait so in your case don't take the exam on the 26th since that would take you into the weekend. We don't have any exam centers here that are open on the weekend. If you do then your latest date for a first attempt would be the 27th. Best call Prometric to confirm when a retake is possible. As I said, taking an $150 test just to see it might seem more expensive than the Boson but if you need it then in my opinion its a cost of doing business - and besides you would have to spend $300 anyway to get your $40 back from Boson. If this is a personal cert then I wouldn't personally worry about it. Take it when you feel that you're prepared. (unless you don't want to change your resume...) Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Cisco Nuts To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Group, Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast? Can any one concur? Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!! Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was pretty straighforward. Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if you buy their exam?? Any one?? **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73887t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
from the source. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/learning_recertification_training.htm l Renewal requires certification holders to register for - and pass - the appropriate Cisco recertification exams. CCNA and CCDA recertification takes place when a candidate passes the current certification exam or any new exam, bearing the prefix 642, at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level. in an Adobe file FAQ the following is said: FAQs-RECERTIFICATION EXAMS AND AGREEMENT 18. When will the recertification exams be available? The CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE, and Cisco Qualified Specialist designation recertification exams are available now. CCIP recertification requirements are in the process of being defined and will be announced by the end of 2003. Candidates may renew their Associate level exams by passing any Cisco Qualified Specialist or Professional level exam with a 642 prefix or by obtaining a higher level certification. Having recently recertified both my CCDP/CCNP, my CCNA and CCDA have been extended to the dates that my CCDP/CCNP expire. Unfortunately it says 642 exam, the poster below completed a 641 exam was that a typo? I can't find 641-511. An interesting question is how long say, is CCNA extended? Completing one 642 exam doesn't make a CCNP. It has not been the case that an individual exam had a life except when a new version is trotted out. None of the print I've read so far says that the CCNA would be upgraded for 3 years - but that seems to be the only timeframe. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Annlee To: Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know. Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired? Annlee -Original Message- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. What exactly does this mean? I got my CCNA last fall. Does this mean the recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed the CSVPN 641-511 exam? Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: annlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR 642-501, CSPFA 642-521, or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but somebody else might. Annlee **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html [GroupStudy removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of bullet.gif] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73903t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184]
Can you recall how many cases was in your exam? ( in my old exam, 2000, it was two cases). Regards, Fathalla -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Fathalla Ahmed Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] I just passed the exam and I didn't find any specific q on ipx, appletalk. Of course you should know the basics...right? C -Original Message- From: Fathalla Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant The content of this communication is classified as Mobifon SA Romania Confidential and Proprietary Information.The content of this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this communication then delete it from your system. We appreciate your assistance in preserving the confidentiality of our correspondence. Thank you. Prezentul mesaj constituie o Informatie confidentiala si este proprietatea exclusiva a MobiFon S.A.. Mesajul se adreseaza numai persoanei fizice sau juridice mentionata ca destinatara, precum si altor persoane autorizate sa-l primeasca. In cazul in care nu sunteti destinatarul vizat, va aducem la cunostinta ca dezvaluirea, copierea, distribuirea sau initierea unor actiuni pe baza prezentei informatii sunt strict interzise si atrag raspunderea civila si penala. Daca ati primit acest mesaj dintr-o eroare, va rugam sa ne anuntati imediat, ca raspuns la mesajul de fata, si sa-l stergeti apoi din sistemul dvs. Apreciem si va multumim pentru sprijinul acordat in pastrarea confidentialitatii corespondentei noastre. --- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73766t=73184 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Group, Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast? Can any one concur? Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!! Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was pretty straighforward. Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if you buy their exam?? Any one?? From: Fathalla Ahmed Reply-To: Fathalla Ahmed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 07:19:38 GMT Can you recall how many cases was in your exam? ( in my old exam, 2000, it was two cases). Regards, Fathalla -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Fathalla Ahmed Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] I just passed the exam and I didn't find any specific q on ipx, appletalk. Of course you should know the basics...right? C -Original Message- From: Fathalla Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant The content of this communication is classified as Mobifon SA Romania Confidential and Proprietary Information.The content of this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this communication then delete it from your system. We appreciate your assistance in preserving the confidentiality of our correspondence. Thank you. Prezentul mesaj constituie o Informatie confidentiala si este proprietatea exclusiva a MobiFon S.A.. Mesajul se adreseaza numai persoanei fizice sau juridice mentionata ca destinatara, precum si altor persoane autorizate sa-l primeasca. In cazul in care nu sunteti destinatarul vizat, va aducem la cunostinta ca dezvaluirea, copierea, distribuirea sau initierea unor actiuni pe baza prezentei informatii sunt strict interzise si atrag raspunderea civila si penala. Daca ati primit acest mesaj dintr-o eroare, va rugam sa ne anuntati imediat, ca raspuns la mesajul de fata, si sa-l stergeti apoi din sistemul dvs. Apreciem si va multumim pentru sprijinul acordat in pastrarea confidentialitatii corespondentei noastre. GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73770t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Appreciate your feedback Willy.Thank you. Question: What do you mean when you say that you have given this course already a couple of times? Do you mean you are a Cisco trainer, a CCSP sort of? Any pointers that you can provide? NDA withstanding ofcourse!! This is the only certification left for me and the one I need to have my official CCDP cert. mailed to me and thus I have been searching the web for any useful info. pertaining to this exam? What are the type of questions, ex. a long case study for me to read first and then answer questions based on that case study? How many? Arcane questions on SAFE and IPV6?? What's the format like? Any specific topics that I need to dwell on? I am using the Cisco Press CCDA exam certification guide for the old exam as well as the new Sybex book by Lammle and Barkl (not very useful IMHO). Are there anything else like exams/notes that I can buy that would be helpful? Thank you. Sincerely, CN From: Willy Schoots To: 'Cisco Nuts' Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 15:29:55 +0200 One of the reasons is that there is very little material available that covers this new exam. A lot of the stuff is still for the old one. Combined with the fact that the course changed about 85% from the old version you might understand why some people fail the test. Having given this course already a couple of times I can say that its difficulty is in the broad range of subjects that it covers. Anything from routing, switching, IPv6, content networking, voice and so on can appear on the exam. Some of the topics will be very new to typical CCDA candidates (only CCNA level knowledge). It also focuses on the design model used in CISCO SAFE architecture. I feel the course and the exam are a big step forward compared to the old DCN and CID exams. Welcome to the 21st century ;-) Cheers, Willy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cisco Nuts Sent: zaterdag 9 augustus 2003 14:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Group, Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast? Can any one concur? Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!! Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was pretty straighforward. Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if you buy their exam?? Any one?? From: Fathalla Ahmed Reply-To: Fathalla Ahmed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 07:19:38 GMT Can you recall how many cases was in your exam? ( in my old exam, 2000, it was two cases). Regards, Fathalla -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Fathalla Ahmed Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] I just passed the exam and I didn't find any specific q on ipx, appletalk. Of course you should know the basics...right? C -Original Message- From: Fathalla Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant The content of this communication is classified as Mobifon SA Romania Confidential and Proprietary Information.The content of this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this communication then delete it from your system. We appreciate your assistance in preserving the confidentiality of our correspondence. Thank you. Prezentul mesaj constituie o Informatie confidentiala si este proprietatea exclusiva a MobiFon S.A.. Mesajul se adreseaza numai persoanei fizice sau juridice mentionata ca destinatara, precum si altor persoane autorizate sa-l primeasca. In cazul in care nu sunteti destinatarul vizat, va aducem la cunostinta ca dezvaluirea, copierea, distribuirea sau initierea unor actiuni pe baza prezentei informatii sunt strict interzise si atrag raspunderea civila si penala. Daca ati primit acest mesaj dintr-o eroare, va rugam sa ne anuntati imediat, ca raspuns la mesajul de fata, si sa-l stergeti apoi din sistemul dvs. Apreciem si va multumim pentru sprijinul
Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]
Boson's guarantee is if you fail Twice within 90 days after purchasing the practice exam. So if you fail once and pass the second time you won't get you $40 back. I didn't do the new CCDA but I did the CCDP/CCNP recerts just a while ago. As the CCDA is only an one exam test, it might not bother you if you miss your deadline. However, if your company needs your certification for their Partner designation then I would suggest studying for a week, taking it around the 21st and if you fail you have time to recover, study the material you think you had issues with and then retake the exam. Cisco exam retakes require a 72 hour wait so in your case don't take the exam on the 26th since that would take you into the weekend. We don't have any exam centers here that are open on the weekend. If you do then your latest date for a first attempt would be the 27th. Best call Prometric to confirm when a retake is possible. As I said, taking an $150 test just to see it might seem more expensive than the Boson but if you need it then in my opinion its a cost of doing business - and besides you would have to spend $300 anyway to get your $40 back from Boson. If this is a personal cert then I wouldn't personally worry about it. Take it when you feel that you're prepared. (unless you don't want to change your resume...) Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Cisco Nuts To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST [7:73770] Group, Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast? Can any one concur? Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!! Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was pretty straighforward. Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if you buy their exam?? Any one?? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73775t=73770 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184]
At 8:17 PM + 7/29/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Fathalla Ahmed wrote: Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Although I haven't taken the test, I do have a copy of the course, and there's no IPX or AppleTalk. Good luck with it. Priscilla Oppenheimer So we can say definitively there will be no apples versus oranges comparisons? (I'm excluding the NSA Orange Book, considering the Red Book is the network reference). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73310t=73184 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184]
I just passed the exam and I didn't find any specific q on ipx, appletalk. Of course you should know the basics...right? C -Original Message- From: Fathalla Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184] Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant The content of this communication is classified as Mobifon SA Romania Confidential and Proprietary Information.The content of this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this communication then delete it from your system. We appreciate your assistance in preserving the confidentiality of our correspondence. Thank you. Prezentul mesaj constituie o Informatie confidentiala si este proprietatea exclusiva a MobiFon S.A.. Mesajul se adreseaza numai persoanei fizice sau juridice mentionata ca destinatara, precum si altor persoane autorizate sa-l primeasca. In cazul in care nu sunteti destinatarul vizat, va aducem la cunostinta ca dezvaluirea, copierea, distribuirea sau initierea unor actiuni pe baza prezentei informatii sunt strict interzise si atrag raspunderea civila si penala. Daca ati primit acest mesaj dintr-o eroare, va rugam sa ne anuntati imediat, ca raspuns la mesajul de fata, si sa-l stergeti apoi din sistemul dvs. Apreciem si va multumim pentru sprijinul acordat in pastrarea confidentialitatii corespondentei noastre. --- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73227t=73184 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184]
Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73184t=73184 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) [7:73184]
Fathalla Ahmed wrote: Hi, Any body knows if IPX and AppleTalk are included in the new CCDA exam? Although I haven't taken the test, I do have a copy of the course, and there's no IPX or AppleTalk. Good luck with it. Priscilla Oppenheimer Regards, ___ Fathalla A. Fathalla Technical Consultant Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73198t=73184 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]
John, I have come across ODR in production a couple of times. Up until recently I had thought that ODR worked quite well for hub and spoke topologies... My most recent involvement with ODR occurred when replacing a 2621 with a 3745, which was the hub of the hub-and-spoke topology. I quickly learned that the 3745 doesn't enable CDP by default. I was also reminded that Cisco doesn't save configuration commands that are considered default... What ended up happening was CDP was not enabled by default and when I enabled it (cdp run) the command wouldn't save because it was considered a default command! Each time the router booted CDP was disabled again! I recommend to everyone that ODR not be used in a Cisco production environment. You never know when an IOS (platform?) bug will render your WAN unusable! - Tom John Neiberger wrote: I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using ODR in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is recommended over other options? John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72693t=72380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]
In addition to that, how many times have you heard that we should disable CDP for security reasons? I'm sure there are some companies that aren't allowed to run CDP for this reason. Then again, that's usually a big company that probably wouldn't want to run ODR in the first place. John Tom Martin 7/21/03 10:05:02 AM John, I have come across ODR in production a couple of times. Up until recently I had thought that ODR worked quite well for hub and spoke topologies... My most recent involvement with ODR occurred when replacing a 2621 with a 3745, which was the hub of the hub-and-spoke topology. I quickly learned that the 3745 doesn't enable CDP by default. I was also reminded that Cisco doesn't save configuration commands that are considered default... What ended up happening was CDP was not enabled by default and when I enabled it (cdp run) the command wouldn't save because it was considered a default command! Each time the router booted CDP was disabled again! I recommend to everyone that ODR not be used in a Cisco production environment. You never know when an IOS (platform?) bug will render your WAN unusable! - Tom John Neiberger wrote: I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using ODR in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is recommended over other options? John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72702t=72380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 640-861 CCDA [7:72217]
Hello, Sorry, I myself did not catch it earlier. And I don't have a login name and password. Can you post Priscilla's thoughts on this new exam. Thank you. Sincerely, From: Maximus Reply-To: Maximus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 640-861 CCDA [7:72217] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:42:41 GMT Did you catch the following comments compliments of Priscilla: ~watch the wrap~ http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72415t=72380 PacketEXPERTS wrote: I am looking to test next month (CCDA 640-861). I am looking for any and all books, tips and info to help test next month. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72663t=72217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 640-861 CCDA [7:72217]
Sure Friend! Author: Priscilla Oppenheimer (---.ashlandfiber.net) Date: 07-16-03 17:38 The new CCDA course is very different. I haven't taken the test but I bet it's very different also. Here is a synopsis of the syllabus for the new course: The first module is on design methodologies. It teaches top-down network design. The recommended reading is Top-Down Network Design. :-) Seriously, that's what the course suggests. The second module is on structuring and modularizing the network. Although it teaches the classic 3-layer hierarchical model (core, distribution, and access), it also focuses on Cisco's new SAFE architecture. See here for a SAFE study guide: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/safe.html The third module is on campus design. If you've taken any of Cisco's other tests, you should be OK, with this. It covers STP, VLANs, VTP, ISL, 802.1Q. The fourth module is on WANs. Same stuff you've heard before probably. The fifth module is IP addressing. Only new thing is a new focus on IPv6. The sixth module is on routing protocols. Top-Down Network Design would meet your needs there with a couple exceptions. The new course covers IS-IS and On Demand Routing (ODR). (Does anyone really use ODR, I wonder??) The seventh module is on security. SAFE should help there. The eight module is on Voice Transport in gory details. Get some voice books or read up on voice stuff and Cisco's AVVID here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/netwarch/ns19/net_solution_home.html http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/sc/rel9/soln/voip20/impl/scigdesn.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/pkt-voice-general/7.html The ninth module is on network management. Andy Barkl wrote an article about the new CCDA for TCP Magazine. See here: http://tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 Good luck! Priscilla Cisco Nuts wrote: Hello, Sorry, I myself did not catch it earlier. And I don't have a login name and password. Can you post Priscilla's thoughts on this new exam. Thank you. Sincerely, From: Maximus Reply-To: Maximus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 640-861 CCDA [7:72217] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:42:41 GMT Did you catch the following comments compliments of Priscilla: ~watch the wrap~ http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72415t=72380 PacketEXPERTS wrote: I am looking to test next month (CCDA 640-861). I am looking for any and all books, tips and info to help test next month. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72669t=72217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 640-861 CCDA [7:72217]
Did you catch the following comments compliments of Priscilla: ~watch the wrap~ http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72415t=72380 PacketEXPERTS wrote: I am looking to test next month (CCDA 640-861). I am looking for any and all books, tips and info to help test next month. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72642t=72217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]
Hi, I did CCDA in mid-2000 and would like to recertify in the next month. Can anyone point me to a summary of the syllabus changes between the old CCDA (640-441 exam) and the current CCDA (640-861)? In other words, what new stuff do I need to focus on? Is the new edition of the Todd Lammle CCDA book a must to buy, or can I get through with my older edition? Thanks, Shane DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72380t=72380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]
The new CCDA course is very different. I haven't taken the test but I bet it's very different also. Here is a synopsis of the syllabus for the new course: The first module is on design methodologies. It teaches top-down network design. The recommended reading is Top-Down Network Design. :-) Seriously, that's what the course suggests. The second module is on structuring and modularizing the network. Although it teaches the classic 3-layer hierarchical model (core, distribution, and access), it also focuses on Cisco's new SAFE architecture. See here for a SAFE study guide: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/safe.html The third module is on campus design. If you've taken any of Cisco's other tests, you should be OK, with this. It covers STP, VLANs, VTP, ISL, 802.1Q. The fourth module is on WANs. Same stuff you've heard before probably. The fifth module is IP addressing. Only new thing is a new focus on IPv6. The sixth module is on routing protocols. Top-Down Network Design would meet your needs there with a couple exceptions. The new course covers IS-IS and On Demand Routing (ODR). (Does anyone really use ODR, I wonder??) The seventh module is on security. SAFE should help there. The eight module is on Voice Transport in gory details. Get some voice books or read up on voice stuff and Cisco's AVVID here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/netwarch/ns19/net_solution_home.html http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/sc/rel9/soln/voip20/impl/scigdesn.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/pkt-voice-general/7.html The ninth module is on network management. Andy Barkl wrote an article about the new CCDA for TCP Magazine. See here: http://tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 Good luck! Priscilla MCMORDIE Shane (BMB) wrote: Hi, I did CCDA in mid-2000 and would like to recertify in the next month. Can anyone point me to a summary of the syllabus changes between the old CCDA (640-441 exam) and the current CCDA (640-861)? In other words, what new stuff do I need to focus on? Is the new edition of the Todd Lammle CCDA book a must to buy, or can I get through with my older edition? Thanks, Shane DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72415t=72380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]
The sixth module is on routing protocols. Top-Down Network Design would meet your needs there with a couple exceptions. The new course covers IS-IS and On Demand Routing (ODR). (Does anyone really use ODR, I wonder??) I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using ODR in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is recommended over other options? John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72418t=72380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA - CERT [7:72215]
I've had a lot of success with both the Sybex and Cisco Press books. If you are looking for good software, try Transcender. http://www.transcender.com/ Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72246t=72215 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
640-861 CCDA [7:72217]
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CCDA - CERT [7:72215]
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RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
Group, To answer the question regarding Knowledgenet from thread below...I've recently purchased a few courses from Knowledgenet - cvoice, dqos and evodd. It's basically 6 weeks of self/web-based study with hands on lab scenarios and sample exam questions for each class. My first course was cvoice. I went through the coursework just about everyday for six weeks. At the end of the six weeks I sat the cvoice exam and passed - the only material used was from knowledgenet and the cisco website - a little hand-on experience helped as well. I'm in the process of sitting the exam for dqos - this upcoming Friday... Robert -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] CiscoNewbie wrote: Great write up. Thanks. So what is the current exam number? 640-861 DESGN Is it just one exam that I have to take? Yes, It's just one exam to get CCDA. Lots of exams to get CCDP. Do you know what the new exam number will be or is? I think it's the same answer as the one above. It just came out but I don't think you can still take the old one, as I implied before. Cisco shouldn't change the exam for a while. It took them years to do the development on this class and test. And they did a great job, from what I can tell. I was looking at taking the following course, what do you think: http://www.knowledgenet.com/courselibrary/cisco/courses/desgn_pf.jsp An advantage to taking the class is that you will get the 1,000s of pages that Cisco wrote for the course manual. I don't know much about Knowledgenet. It appears to not be a real, carbon-based classroom where you go in person to the site and can easily interract with the instructor and other people taking the class, which is a major benefit in a design class. In fact, the exercises for DESGN are designed to be done with a team. Can you do that with this Web-based training? It's possible that they do a good job with their Web-based training and simulate the real world well. I just don't know. Cisco recommends that DESGN be taught with a simulator that will let you do some design tasks. They recommend OPNET. Does Knowledgenet let you use OPNET? I would ask a few questions before shelling out a lot of money for the Knowlegenet course. Has anyone else here on GroupStudy used them? If you do use them, let us know how it goes. Thanks and good luck with your CCDA. Priscilla Thank you! --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC
RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
I recently used the knowledgenet BSCI course. I used it as a supplement to my studying and not my main source. it was very good in explaining the technology and hands on labs just not sure that it covered all of the details needed to pass the exam. I signed up for the exam at www.computer.org this is the IEEE site. If you join as a member of IEEE $100.00 US fee/yr you get access to the courses that they have available. I paid $44.00 only since it is prorated over the year. I did BSCI they also have Advanced Cisco wireless and other tech courses. It is a very cheap resource for studying $44.00 all you can study not bad. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lopez, Robert Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] Group, To answer the question regarding Knowledgenet from thread below...I've recently purchased a few courses from Knowledgenet - cvoice, dqos and evodd. It's basically 6 weeks of self/web-based study with hands on lab scenarios and sample exam questions for each class. My first course was cvoice. I went through the coursework just about everyday for six weeks. At the end of the six weeks I sat the cvoice exam and passed - the only material used was from knowledgenet and the cisco website - a little hand-on experience helped as well. I'm in the process of sitting the exam for dqos - this upcoming Friday... Robert -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] CiscoNewbie wrote: Great write up. Thanks. So what is the current exam number? 640-861 DESGN Is it just one exam that I have to take? Yes, It's just one exam to get CCDA. Lots of exams to get CCDP. Do you know what the new exam number will be or is? I think it's the same answer as the one above. It just came out but I don't think you can still take the old one, as I implied before. Cisco shouldn't change the exam for a while. It took them years to do the development on this class and test. And they did a great job, from what I can tell. I was looking at taking the following course, what do you think: http://www.knowledgenet.com/courselibrary/cisco/courses/desgn_pf.jsp An advantage to taking the class is that you will get the 1,000s of pages that Cisco wrote for the course manual. I don't know much about Knowledgenet. It appears to not be a real, carbon-based classroom where you go in person to the site and can easily interract with the instructor and other people taking the class, which is a major benefit in a design class. In fact, the exercises for DESGN are designed to be done with a team. Can you do that with this Web-based training? It's possible that they do a good job with their Web-based training and simulate the real world well. I just don't know. Cisco recommends that DESGN be taught with a simulator that will let you do some design tasks. They recommend OPNET. Does Knowledgenet let you use OPNET? I would ask a few questions before shelling out a lot of money for the Knowlegenet course. Has anyone else here on GroupStudy used them? If you do use them, let us know how it goes. Thanks and good luck with your CCDA. Priscilla Thank you! --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds
Re: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
Very nice article, Andy. Unfortunately, the hyperlinks didn't post with the article (things like you can see the xxx here has no link). Most links I can chase down, but there are a few I can't discern. Do you have a copy of the aricle with links that you are allowed to send? If so, I'd appreciate a copy. TIA Annlee Andy Barkl wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla has hit the nail on the head as usual! If you don't have the experience with Cisco's AVVID, SAFE and voice architecture design, you should wait a few months for the self-study guides from companies such as Cisco Press and Sybex before tacking the CCDA DESGN 640-861 exam. I took the exam late last year when it was in beta and it's a real bear for an intro-level certification. I wrote an exam review you might want to look at for more information. Good luck! http://tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71236t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
My bad--the hyperlinks work, but are not visible until you poise the mouse. I probably need less coffee to get a good poise...;-) Annlee Andy Barkl wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla has hit the nail on the head as usual! If you don't have the experience with Cisco's AVVID, SAFE and voice architecture design, you should wait a few months for the self-study guides from companies such as Cisco Press and Sybex before tacking the CCDA DESGN 640-861 exam. I took the exam late last year when it was in beta and it's a real bear for an intro-level certification. I wrote an exam review you might want to look at for more information. Good luck! http://tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71237t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
Great write up. Thanks. So what is the current exam number? Is it just one exam that I have to take? Do you know what the new exam number will be or is? I was looking at taking the following course, what do you think: http://www.knowledgenet.com/courselibrary/cisco/courses/desgn_pf.jsp Thank you! --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71241t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
CiscoNewbie wrote: Great write up. Thanks. So what is the current exam number? 640-861 DESGN Is it just one exam that I have to take? Yes, It's just one exam to get CCDA. Lots of exams to get CCDP. Do you know what the new exam number will be or is? I think it's the same answer as the one above. It just came out but I don't think you can still take the old one, as I implied before. Cisco shouldn't change the exam for a while. It took them years to do the development on this class and test. And they did a great job, from what I can tell. I was looking at taking the following course, what do you think: http://www.knowledgenet.com/courselibrary/cisco/courses/desgn_pf.jsp An advantage to taking the class is that you will get the 1,000s of pages that Cisco wrote for the course manual. I don't know much about Knowledgenet. It appears to not be a real, carbon-based classroom where you go in person to the site and can easily interract with the instructor and other people taking the class, which is a major benefit in a design class. In fact, the exercises for DESGN are designed to be done with a team. Can you do that with this Web-based training? It's possible that they do a good job with their Web-based training and simulate the real world well. I just don't know. Cisco recommends that DESGN be taught with a simulator that will let you do some design tasks. They recommend OPNET. Does Knowledgenet let you use OPNET? I would ask a few questions before shelling out a lot of money for the Knowlegenet course. Has anyone else here on GroupStudy used them? If you do use them, let us know how it goes. Thanks and good luck with your CCDA. Priscilla Thank you! --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71266t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71189t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111]
Priscilla has hit the nail on the head as usual! If you don't have the experience with Cisco's AVVID, SAFE and voice architecture design, you should wait a few months for the self-study guides from companies such as Cisco Press and Sybex before tacking the CCDA DESGN 640-861 exam. I took the exam late last year when it was in beta and it's a real bear for an intro-level certification. I wrote an exam review you might want to look at for more information. Good luck! http://tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:7] CiscoNewbie wrote: Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, as far as I know. Your best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, if you can afford it. With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a really great class. It's got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has a big focus on systems analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real discipline, not just a bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge scope, covering almost everything you ever wanted to know related to campus and enterprise networks, from business (which they call social or organizational) goals, technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular design, addressing (including IPv6), routing, voice, network management, and security. One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that up on Cisco's site and learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff Many of the course modules are partially based on my book Top-Down Network Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down Network Design is recommended reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some newer topics, though, such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice in a limited fashion, since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. DESGN covers voice in gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the old CVOICE course in it. Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of which is literally hundreds of pages long. The person turning it into a book (not me unfortunately) is going to have a heyday. :-) I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests all that's in the course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests out there (and that's a good thing. It's about time design got some respect. :-) Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older version of the test, then there's lots of study materials. If you have to take the newer version, then you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or wait a few months for study material. Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71194t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Study material [7:71111]
Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would like to know what are the recommended books and material to study with? Thanks. - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7t=7 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA CCDP [7:70637]
Go to Ciscopress.com and do a search on the test numbers. Cisco Press books are sometimes difficult to read, but this is where you can get the most pertinent information and is usually what the test is based upon. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70746t=70637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA CCDP [7:70637]
Hello all - I am thinking about adding the CCDA and CCDP to my cisco cert arsenal. I was wondering what books the group would recommend for 640-861 and 640-901 (I believe these are the latest tests...) Thanks, Duncan Wallace Sr. Systems Engineer Pacific Star Communications 15714 SW 72nd Ave. Portland, OR 97224 Work:503-403-3000 Cell:971-506-8164 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70637t=70637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New CCDA exam reviewed [7:62876]
Here is my review of the new CCDA exam for your reading enjoyment! http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=71 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62876t=62876 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Beta test -Looking for beta testers [7:62093]
I need a few good CCDA's that are willing to review our new CCDA practice test. Those CCDA's that are interested in testing this new CCDA test will receive a free CCNP or CCNA practice test. If interested please send me you contact information via email. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62093t=62093 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA/CCDP [7:59606]
Hi All I would like to take this opportunity to thank our Gracious Dear Lord Jesus for guiding me and supporting me and giving me such a wonderful family to support me I have completed my Design route by completing my CCDA and in combination with my CID which Thank God I passed a couple of weeks ago I am a CCDP, I must admit that these exams are by no means a slice of cake, they are difficult and tricky, but by the grace of God I have pulled through and completed the route, thanks to everybody's help on the group I wish you all the Best for Christmas and may the new year bring you plenty of success! God Bless Merry Christmas Serg A Job Makes Something For You. A Career makes Something Of You. *** This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59606t=59606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA/CCDP [7:59606]
Hi Sergio, Congrats on your achievment.You should head for now CCIE, the Black belt of networking. Regards, Munit Singla Sergio Silva (ZA) wrote: Hi All I would like to take this opportunity to thank our Gracious Dear Lord Jesus for guiding me and supporting me and giving me such a wonderful family to support me I have completed my Design route by completing my CCDA and in combination with my CID which Thank God I passed a couple of weeks ago I am a CCDP, I must admit that these exams are by no means a slice of cake, they are difficult and tricky, but by the grace of God I have pulled through and completed the route, thanks to everybody's help on the group I wish you all the Best for Christmas and may the new year bring you plenty of success! God Bless Merry Christmas Serg A Job Makes Something For You. A Career makes Something Of You. *** This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59608t=59606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA/CCDP [7:59606]
can anyone help me regarding the fact that how much different is CCNP is from CCNA. actually I am a CCNA am will to head for CCNP but am not getting enough time for preparation -Original Message- From: Munit Singla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA/CCDP [7:59606] Hi Sergio, Congrats on your achievment.You should head for now CCIE, the Black belt of networking. Regards, Munit Singla Sergio Silva (ZA) wrote: Hi All I would like to take this opportunity to thank our Gracious Dear Lord Jesus for guiding me and supporting me and giving me such a wonderful family to support me I have completed my Design route by completing my CCDA and in combination with my CID which Thank God I passed a couple of weeks ago I am a CCDP, I must admit that these exams are by no means a slice of cake, they are difficult and tricky, but by the grace of God I have pulled through and completed the route, thanks to everybody's help on the group I wish you all the Best for Christmas and may the new year bring you plenty of success! God Bless Merry Christmas Serg A Job Makes Something For You. A Career makes Something Of You. *** This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59612t=59606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA/CCDP [7:59606]
Serg Congratulations, the most important thing is that you thanks the Lord, with him we are nothing Good luck in your next goal. Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sergio Silva (ZA) Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA/CCDP [7:59606] Hi All I would like to take this opportunity to thank our Gracious Dear Lord Jesus for guiding me and supporting me and giving me such a wonderful family to support me I have completed my Design route by completing my CCDA and in combination with my CID which Thank God I passed a couple of weeks ago I am a CCDP, I must admit that these exams are by no means a slice of cake, they are difficult and tricky, but by the grace of God I have pulled through and completed the route, thanks to everybody's help on the group I wish you all the Best for Christmas and may the new year bring you plenty of success! God Bless Merry Christmas Serg A Job Makes Something For You. A Career makes Something Of You. *** This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59618t=59606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
Hi GroupStudy, I heard that there is case studies in the CCDA exam. I would like to know how does it works? Is it that they gave you a case and the next few question will ask you some multiple choice questions that is related to that case? Can I go back to the case study during those questions? Thanx.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59068t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
This test has multiple case studies and multiple questions per case study. Yes, you can refer back to the case studies for all the questions. You will lose average of 3 min. per question as you have to refer back to the case study. After spending over an hour on case studies (hint hint), my head was aching after the exam. IMO, CCIE written was easier. -Original Message- From: Sliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068] Hi GroupStudy, I heard that there is case studies in the CCDA exam. I would like to know how does it works? Is it that they gave you a case and the next few question will ask you some multiple choice questions that is related to that case? Can I go back to the case study during those questions? Thanx.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59075t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
I agree. I hated this test. I wouldn't have minded it as much if they organized the questions better. e.g. Case Study 1 Question About Case Study 1 Question About Case Study 1 Question About Case Study 1 Case Study 2 Question About Case Study 2 Question About Case Study 2 Question About Case Study 2 But on my test it was all over the place. E.g. Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1 Case Study 2- Question About Case Study 2 Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1 Case Study 3 - Question About Case Study 3 Case Study 2- Question About Case Study 2 Case Study 5- Question About Case Study 5 FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
when I took it thats the way it worked...My test had 3 case studies... but that was long ago, its been re-done since then... Sliver wrote: Hi GroupStudy, I heard that there is case studies in the CCDA exam. I would like to know how does it works? Is it that they gave you a case and the next few question will ask you some multiple choice questions that is related to that case? Can I go back to the case study during those questions? Thanx.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59106t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
- Original Message - From: J.D. Chaiken To: Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:33 AM Subject: Re: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068] But on my test it was all over the place. E.g. Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1 Case Study 2- Question About Case Study 2 Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1 Case Study 3 - Question About Case Study 3 Case Study 2- Question About Case Study 2 Case Study 5- Question About Case Study 5 Same here. After a while I was losing concentration and was beginning to get bored of the exam! I was constantly dreading my next question would be a case study question, as that will mean I will lose precious time. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59141t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
Sliver, That was the worst one I took. And, I hate it because of case study questions. As a non-native english speaker, I spent 50% of my time to read the cases over and over. I read the questions and answered them in less than 30% of remain time. Passed with 912/1000. For each of unclear questions (or answers) to me, I didn't spend longer then 15 to think. Guessed and clicked to save time going with the others. For this kind of exams; the more I spend for them when sitting, the worse result I get. I use this tactic to avoid the long reading questions too. CIT and CID are harder but I like them better. Good luck, TuDo Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59143t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]
Hi All, I also found CCDA funny - after some time, I developed a don't-care-attitude and just started making intelligent guesses (I thought this is what they wanted!). I was surprised when I got 815/1000. I really did not care! Cheers! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=59165t=59068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: CCDA Certification Updates [7:57295]
After reading this, I suppose that first step in new CCD* studies should be getting familiar with Cisco's SAFE Blueprints (as someone noted few weeks ago). Marko. -Original Message- From: Cisco Systems Inc [mailto:CiscoCCDA;mail.ciscomessage.com] Sent: ~ripjudagur, 12. nsvember 2002. 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA Certification Updates On November 12, 2002 Cisco announces its redesigned CCDA(r) certification track, which features the new CCDA exam # 640-861 and the new course, Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions (DESGN). The new DESGN five-day, instructor-led course will teach how to design Cisco network infrastructures. The existing DCN course will retire on January 6, 2003, and the existing DCN exam #640-441 will retire on March 5, 2003. A CCDA certification is achieved upon successful completion of the DESGN exam, and is valid for two years. The recommended training includes CCNA Basics and DESGN. The CCDA program is the first step toward achieving CCDP(r) certification (CCNA(r) certification is also required), and a redesigned CCDP track exam and course will be released around February 2003. The CCDP related course, Designing Cisco Network Service Architectures (ARCH), builds upon the DESGN foundation, teaching designers how to architect network services and solutions using that infrastructure. While the DESGN course addresses mainly infrastructure and network service issues, the ARCH will address mainly network services and solutions. What's New in DESGN Because networks and network services are growing exponentially complex, designing a network separately becomes impossible. Instead, the network is divided into modules such as the enterprise edge, campus, and service provider edge, with each module designed separately. Designers must ensure the entire solution responds optimally to business and technical needs, and that the network is highly available. A strategic network solution requires content networking, storage application networking, and voice applications. Successful network designs require critical modern infrastructure services (such as wireless access) and network services (such as security and management, quality of service, and multicast). For more information on CCDA certification visit http://www.cisco.com/go/training Copyright (2002, Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. CCNA, CCDP, CCDA, Cisco, Cisco IOS, Cisco Systems, and the Cisco Systems logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc. and/or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries. All other trademarks mentioned in this document are the property of their respective owners. The use of the word partner does not imply a partnership relationship between Cisco and any other company. (0210R) You have been sent this message because you indicated that you wish to receive updates on Cisco products and special offerings. If you would prefer not to receive news about special promotions from Cisco in the future, please click here: mailto:TRN_Unsubscribe;mail.ciscomessage.com You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvlvupsstur ~essi er fra Margmiplun hf., Supurlandsbraut 4, Reykjavmk. Fyrirvara og leipbeiningar til viptakenda tvlvupssts fra Margmiplun hf. er ap finna a vefsmpunni http://www.mi.is/fyrirvari Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57295t=57295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Certification Updates [7:57295]
This is now just after I bought the CCDA certification kit from Cisco press, and the Sybex book ... And a new car ... And and arrg guess I have to find money ;) -Original Message- From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom;margmidlun.is] Sent: 12 November 2002 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCDA Certification Updates [7:57295] After reading this, I suppose that first step in new CCD* studies should be getting familiar with Cisco's SAFE Blueprints (as someone noted few weeks ago). Marko. -Original Message- From: Cisco Systems Inc [mailto:CiscoCCDA;mail.ciscomessage.com] Sent: ~ripjudagur, 12. nsvember 2002. 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA Certification Updates On November 12, 2002 Cisco announces its redesigned CCDA(r) certification track, which features the new CCDA exam # 640-861 and the new course, Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions (DESGN). The new DESGN five-day, instructor-led course will teach how to design Cisco network infrastructures. The existing DCN course will retire on January 6, 2003, and the existing DCN exam #640-441 will retire on March 5, 2003. A CCDA certification is achieved upon successful completion of the DESGN exam, and is valid for two years. The recommended training includes CCNA Basics and DESGN. The CCDA program is the first step toward achieving CCDP(r) certification (CCNA(r) certification is also required), and a redesigned CCDP track exam and course will be released around February 2003. The CCDP related course, Designing Cisco Network Service Architectures (ARCH), builds upon the DESGN foundation, teaching designers how to architect network services and solutions using that infrastructure. While the DESGN course addresses mainly infrastructure and network service issues, the ARCH will address mainly network services and solutions. What's New in DESGN Because networks and network services are growing exponentially complex, designing a network separately becomes impossible. Instead, the network is divided into modules such as the enterprise edge, campus, and service provider edge, with each module designed separately. Designers must ensure the entire solution responds optimally to business and technical needs, and that the network is highly available. A strategic network solution requires content networking, storage application networking, and voice applications. Successful network designs require critical modern infrastructure services (such as wireless access) and network services (such as security and management, quality of service, and multicast). For more information on CCDA certification visit http://www.cisco.com/go/training Copyright (2002, Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. CCNA, CCDP, CCDA, Cisco, Cisco IOS, Cisco Systems, and the Cisco Systems logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc. and/or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries. All other trademarks mentioned in this document are the property of their respective owners. The use of the word partner does not imply a partnership relationship between Cisco and any other company. (0210R) You have been sent this message because you indicated that you wish to receive updates on Cisco products and special offerings. If you would prefer not to receive news about special promotions from Cisco in the future, please click here: mailto:TRN_Unsubscribe;mail.ciscomessage.com You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvlvupsstur ~essi er fra Margmiplun hf., Supurlandsbraut 4, Reykjavmk. Fyrirvara og leipbeiningar til viptakenda tvlvupssts fra Margmiplun hf. er ap finna a vefsmpunni http://www.mi.is/fyrirvari Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57308t=57295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Certification Updates [7:57295]
Gerhard Roets wrote: This is now just after I bought the CCDA certification kit from Cisco press, and the Sybex book ... And a new car ... And and arrg guess I have to find money ;) The current version of the test won't expire until March. So you should still be OK with the materials you bought. So enjoy the new car and don't worry. ;-) Priscilla -Original Message- From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom;margmidlun.is] Sent: 12 November 2002 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCDA Certification Updates [7:57295] After reading this, I suppose that first step in new CCD* studies should be getting familiar with Cisco's SAFE Blueprints (as someone noted few weeks ago). Marko. -Original Message- From: Cisco Systems Inc [mailto:CiscoCCDA;mail.ciscomessage.com] Sent: ~ripjudagur, 12. nsvember 2002. 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA Certification Updates On November 12, 2002 Cisco announces its redesigned CCDA(r) certification track, which features the new CCDA exam # 640-861 and the new course, Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions (DESGN). The new DESGN five-day, instructor-led course will teach how to design Cisco network infrastructures. The existing DCN course will retire on January 6, 2003, and the existing DCN exam #640-441 will retire on March 5, 2003. A CCDA certification is achieved upon successful completion of the DESGN exam, and is valid for two years. The recommended training includes CCNA Basics and DESGN. The CCDA program is the first step toward achieving CCDP(r) certification (CCNA(r) certification is also required), and a redesigned CCDP track exam and course will be released around February 2003. The CCDP related course, Designing Cisco Network Service Architectures (ARCH), builds upon the DESGN foundation, teaching designers how to architect network services and solutions using that infrastructure. While the DESGN course addresses mainly infrastructure and network service issues, the ARCH will address mainly network services and solutions. What's New in DESGN Because networks and network services are growing exponentially complex, designing a network separately becomes impossible. Instead, the network is divided into modules such as the enterprise edge, campus, and service provider edge, with each module designed separately. Designers must ensure the entire solution responds optimally to business and technical needs, and that the network is highly available. A strategic network solution requires content networking, storage application networking, and voice applications. Successful network designs require critical modern infrastructure services (such as wireless access) and network services (such as security and management, quality of service, and multicast). For more information on CCDA certification visit http://www.cisco.com/go/training Copyright (2002, Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. CCNA, CCDP, CCDA, Cisco, Cisco IOS, Cisco Systems, and the Cisco Systems logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc. and/or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries. All other trademarks mentioned in this document are the property of their respective owners. The use of the word partner does not imply a partnership relationship between Cisco and any other company. (0210R) You have been sent this message because you indicated that you wish to receive updates on Cisco products and special offerings. If you would prefer not to receive news about special promotions from Cisco in the future, please click here: mailto:TRN_Unsubscribe;mail.ciscomessage.com You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvlvupsstur ~essi er fra Margmiplun hf., Supurlandsbraut 4, Reykjavmk. Fyrirvara og leipbeiningar til viptakenda tvlvupssts fra Margmiplun hf. er ap finna a vefsmpunni http://www.mi.is/fyrirvari Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57324t=57295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829]
Thank you for the response. I thought perhaps I was going crazy (not that I'm not already) because I couldn't find anything. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829] Andy Barkl wrote: The new CCDA beta exam lists many new topics including; applying design solutions using the Enterprise Composite Network Model (ECNM). I've never heard of such a model. I don't think it's an industry-standard model. I'm having difficulty locating anything on CCO and wonder if anyone can offer alternative locations or resources? I couldn't find anything either. Hmm. Doesn't bode well for the beta. It sounds like you would have to have access to the beta class to pass the beta test. That's not good. The old CCDA was passable by someone with design experience even if they didn't know Cisco made-up marketing terms. And I think that was a good thing. :-) Also, the old class taught design methods that could be applied regardless of new marketing solutions. The new approach may be more cookbook or based on specific models, which I think would be unfortunate. If you read most descriptions of specific models, they say this may not work for your network. It's better to teach methods that will work for any network. Back to the so-called Enterprise Composite Network Model, my guess is that it has something to do with Cisco's SAFE security blueprint. There's more info here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/safe.html Good luck! ___ Priscilla Oppenheimer www.troubleshootingnetworks.com www.priscilla.com Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55858t=55829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829]
Is it nit just a 'poshed' up title for the old Access Distribution Core model ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: 18 October 2002 06:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829] Thank you for the response. I thought perhaps I was going crazy (not that I'm not already) because I couldn't find anything. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829] Andy Barkl wrote: The new CCDA beta exam lists many new topics including; applying design solutions using the Enterprise Composite Network Model (ECNM). I've never heard of such a model. I don't think it's an industry-standard model. I'm having difficulty locating anything on CCO and wonder if anyone can offer alternative locations or resources? I couldn't find anything either. Hmm. Doesn't bode well for the beta. It sounds like you would have to have access to the beta class to pass the beta test. That's not good. The old CCDA was passable by someone with design experience even if they didn't know Cisco made-up marketing terms. And I think that was a good thing. :-) Also, the old class taught design methods that could be applied regardless of new marketing solutions. The new approach may be more cookbook or based on specific models, which I think would be unfortunate. If you read most descriptions of specific models, they say this may not work for your network. It's better to teach methods that will work for any network. Back to the so-called Enterprise Composite Network Model, my guess is that it has something to do with Cisco's SAFE security blueprint. There's more info here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/safe.html Good luck! ___ Priscilla Oppenheimer www.troubleshootingnetworks.com www.priscilla.com Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55888t=55829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829]
The new CCDA beta exam lists many new topics including; applying design solutions using the Enterprise Composite Network Model (ECNM). I'm having difficulty locating anything on CCO and wonder if anyone can offer alternative locations or resources? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55829t=55829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA beta exam topic ECNM [7:55829]
Andy Barkl wrote: The new CCDA beta exam lists many new topics including; applying design solutions using the Enterprise Composite Network Model (ECNM). I've never heard of such a model. I don't think it's an industry-standard model. I'm having difficulty locating anything on CCO and wonder if anyone can offer alternative locations or resources? I couldn't find anything either. Hmm. Doesn't bode well for the beta. It sounds like you would have to have access to the beta class to pass the beta test. That's not good. The old CCDA was passable by someone with design experience even if they didn't know Cisco made-up marketing terms. And I think that was a good thing. :-) Also, the old class taught design methods that could be applied regardless of new marketing solutions. The new approach may be more cookbook or based on specific models, which I think would be unfortunate. If you read most descriptions of specific models, they say this may not work for your network. It's better to teach methods that will work for any network. Back to the so-called Enterprise Composite Network Model, my guess is that it has something to do with Cisco's SAFE security blueprint. There's more info here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/safe.html Good luck! ___ Priscilla Oppenheimer www.troubleshootingnetworks.com www.priscilla.com Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55850t=55829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Exam [7:52929]
Hi Passed the CCDA exam today. Passed with the highest mark I ever received for a cisco exam. All I can say for prospective exam-takers ... is don't take anything for granted. I didn't and felt sorta relieved with myself that I actually didn't bother to really follow the new exam Guideline List. As always it pays to know more than just the required things. Some questions were absolute classics in my mind. Well that's as much as I can say without violating the NDA. Thanks Manish Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52929t=52929 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]
hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda study group, is there anyone that can push me in the right direction..juan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47168t=47168 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]
Try the Atlanta Cisco users group. They have study sessions for CCNA candidates that meet at a local training center. Go to: http://www.internetworkexperts.net/acsg.htm Good luck! Paul Borghese juan lenoir wrote: hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda study group, is there anyone that can push me in the right direction..juan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47173t=47168 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP and CCDA... [7:42684]
I would like to say that I've browsed through many news and web groups, but you guys are the top I've seen. I find myself being intimidated reading your indepth responses. I finished up my CCNP last week and finished my CCDA exam this morning. I plan on sitting the CCDP exam in 2 weeks and taking the CCIE written in 2 months after a short Army paid fun-filled trip out east. ha ha I feel fortunate that I am able to do this type of work for 12-14+ hours a day and then come home and spend several more hours learning from you guys. Thanks again and wish me luck! Jeffrey W. Hall Network Administrator, CCNP, CCDA, SCSA, MCSE U.S. Army Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42684t=42684 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP and CCDA... [7:42684]
Yeah... Groupstudy rocks!!! Best group I've found on the web or otherwise When you got people like Howard Berkowitz, Priscilla Oppenheimer, the oldest CCNP on earth, and of course, ME (LOL) lurking in the shadows, you'll almost always find a good discussion about RTP priority limitations, frame formats, routing design problems and tips, etc.. Even tho it's been a year since I finished CCNP, I still check the group everyday just to keep on my toes, and to keep learning. (esp. while studying for CCIE... hehe) Enjoy! Mike W. Jeffrey W. Hall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I would like to say that I've browsed through many news and web groups, but you guys are the top I've seen. I find myself being intimidated reading your indepth responses. I finished up my CCNP last week and finished my CCDA exam this morning. I plan on sitting the CCDP exam in 2 weeks and taking the CCIE written in 2 months after a short Army paid fun-filled trip out east. ha ha I feel fortunate that I am able to do this type of work for 12-14+ hours a day and then come home and spend several more hours learning from you guys. Thanks again and wish me luck! Jeffrey W. Hall Network Administrator, CCNP, CCDA, SCSA, MCSE U.S. Army Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42704t=42684 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
Looks like they changed it Jan 11, 2002 Andy Barkl wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The list of exam objectives is entirely new. They didn't change the exam name or number and there was no announcement regarding objectives changing but they have. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] I looked at the site, but do not see any indication that it changed... what am I missing? I also looked at the retired exam page: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/endoflif e.htm Last one changed/retired was CCNA. Please let me know where I went wrong. I am taking this exam Monday, so I would like to be aware of any changes! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42105t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
Thanks. I saw the objectives, and it looks like I am going to just have to cram the new stuff in at the last minute. I am taking the exam tomorrow at 2:45PM, so I will report back with what I discover. Too late to change it now! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41436t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
I looked at the site, but do not see any indication that it changed... what am I missing? I also looked at the retired exam page: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/endoflife.htm Last one changed/retired was CCNA. Please let me know where I went wrong. I am taking this exam Monday, so I would like to be aware of any changes! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41333t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
The list of exam objectives is entirely new. They didn't change the exam name or number and there was no announcement regarding objectives changing but they have. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] I looked at the site, but do not see any indication that it changed... what am I missing? I also looked at the retired exam page: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/endoflif e.htm Last one changed/retired was CCNA. Please let me know where I went wrong. I am taking this exam Monday, so I would like to be aware of any changes! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41369t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
Any confirmation that the exam has changed to address the new objectives? I am taking this exam in 24+ hours... would like to hear feedback. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41396t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
The new objectives are posted on the Cisco web site. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] Any confirmation that the exam has changed to address the new objectives? I am taking this exam in 24+ hours... would like to hear feedback. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41406t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
Do you know what changed exactly? The PIX stuff seems to be a new addition; I don't remember studying any PIX info when I took the CCDA. Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] Guess what? The DCN (CCDA) exam was updated today with new objectives without prior announcement or notification. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-441.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41276t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
I took the old exam a couple of years ago so I don't remember exactly what was on the exam. I plan to take the new exam soon and provide feedback. -Original Message- From: Sean Knox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:57 AM To: 'Andy Barkl'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] Do you know what changed exactly? The PIX stuff seems to be a new addition; I don't remember studying any PIX info when I took the CCDA. Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263] Guess what? The DCN (CCDA) exam was updated today with new objectives without prior announcement or notification. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-441.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41319t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]
Guess what? The DCN (CCDA) exam was updated today with new objectives without prior announcement or notification. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-441.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41263t=41263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
== FOR SALE: CCDA, CCNP and CCDP Books at 50% or lower [7:39590]
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Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
You sound just like my dad Tim. No offence meant - Some great things have come from him :-) I agree with the sentiment, but sometimes it's nice to know (for no real reason). I'll change your statement to: If you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass. If on average, you know 65% of the material then you will probably also pass, as you have to get 755/1000 and you start with 300 (or do you). If you know less than 65% of the material, you've still got a chance because a majority are 'multiple-guess' So around 50% of the knowledge may do it. So, if you've half a mind to get studying that might be enough! If I was interviewing I'd like to see grades up in the late 80's or 90's on the certificates. Short answer - 755 Gaz Tim Medley wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36893t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
I have never been on a job interview where anyone asked to see my cisco certification certificate or asked my score on an exam. I have been asked my testing ID to verify that I did indeed have the cert I claimed (crazy interview, guy had just interviewed a guy who said he was a CCIE, turns out he wasn't). On interviews I've been asked what certification I currently hold, them based on my certs I've been asked related questions to see what I really know or don't know. When we interview someone for a job at work, we ask the person what their technical strengths are and ask detailed technical questions; if a person says they know something, we're going to dig until we determine if the person really knows what their talking about or if they're full of @!#$. Our approach is similar but not as brutal as the way Cisco interviews; When I was on a telephone interview with Cisco and the interviewer says, so it says on your resume, you know something about Ethernet... tell me everything you know about Ethernet. When I was done he started drilling into me about Ethernet; I thought the CIA was questioning me. The guy repeated this with every keyword and buzzword I had on my resume. Then he drilled me for details on specific projects and accomplishments that I had listed on my resume; asking about how i've designed a network, equipment I've used and why. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gaz Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] You sound just like my dad Tim. No offence meant - Some great things have come from him :-) I agree with the sentiment, but sometimes it's nice to know (for no real reason). I'll change your statement to: If you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass. If on average, you know 65% of the material then you will probably also pass, as you have to get 755/1000 and you start with 300 (or do you). If you know less than 65% of the material, you've still got a chance because a majority are 'multiple-guess' So around 50% of the knowledge may do it. So, if you've half a mind to get studying that might be enough! If I was interviewing I'd like to see grades up in the late 80's or 90's on the certificates. Short answer - 755 Gaz Tim Medley wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36908t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36649t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
Thanks Tim Medley, well put Mario, you should really concentrate on learning the technology, be able to understand how it can be utilized in many different situations and when you take the test, you don't have to think about the passing grades. My two cents. JB, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP.One day CCIE(it looks like an eternity..just a joke). Tim Medley wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36683t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
Yeah Mario What the hell were you thinking? You'd better go study your ass off for a couple months nonstop and not worry about your what score you need. This ain't a game. No ones playin around over here. How dare you ask such a question? We spend 18 hours day studying this stuff, do you think we care what passing scores we need? Our hands, eyes, and minds are weary from all the studying and practice. I've got a bum leg from dropping a 4700 on my big toe, I wobble around like a drunk penguin because of it. And you expect to tell you what the passing score for a Cisco exam on a Cisco certification newsgroup? NEVER ps. passing score is 755/1000 J-B wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Tim Medley, well put Mario, you should really concentrate on learning the technology, be able to understand how it can be utilized in many different situations and when you take the test, you don't have to think about the passing grades. My two cents. JB, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP.One day CCIE(it looks like an eternity..just a joke). Tim Medley wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36706t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636]
Mario, Please forgive everyone else. They should remember that you never know who you'll run into again, or who might be listening. All of these guys do represent their immediate company, and cisco. What they should have said is, if your prepare well you'll pass. Go over the material until you feel you know it like the back of your hand. The test will prove, that you do or you don't. SoQuit winning and study, Set a date and be prepared! ;-) sam sneed wrote: Yeah Mario What the hell were you thinking? You'd better go study your ass off for a couple months nonstop and not worry about your what score you need. This ain't a game. No ones playin around over here. How dare you ask such a question? We spend 18 hours day studying this stuff, do you think we care what passing scores we need? Our hands, eyes, and minds are weary from all the studying and practice. I've got a bum leg from dropping a 4700 on my big toe, I wobble around like a drunk penguin because of it. And you expect to tell you what the passing score for a Cisco exam on a Cisco certification newsgroup? NEVER ps. passing score is 755/1000 J-B wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Tim Medley, well put Mario, you should really concentrate on learning the technology, be able to understand how it can be utilized in many different situations and when you take the test, you don't have to think about the passing grades. My two cents. JB, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP.One day CCIE(it looks like an eternity..just a joke). Tim Medley wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All Cisco exams are Pass or Fail exams. It's that simple, if you know the material that is covered on the exam then you will Pass; if you do not know the material then you will Fail. Your focus should not be how you can skim by and just barely pass the exam. If you don't really know the concepts and technologies and just cram so that you pass the exam, what good is the certification then? Just because you have a certification doesn't mean that someone is going to hire you and throw money at you. Employers look at certifications as a base line, a ccda should know xyz concepts and know how to accomplish xyz tasks. If you can't perform at the baseline level you're not going to be around at that job long or you may not even get hired. With the way the Tech job market is these days, you need to be able to differentiate yourself from your peers. Paper Certs are not a way to do this. Please stop asking for minimum scores to pass or the number of questions on an exam. Review the exam outlines and blueprints on CCO and learn the concepts and technologies. Most everyone here in this forum is here to share knowledge and learn from each other. If you don't understand a concept or technology, post a question about it you'll receive plenty of help. Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grade to get CCDA [7:36636] Hi Folks, I would like to know how is the grade to get CCDA. Regards, Mario A. Rodrigues Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36759t=36636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Prep book is good? [7:36762]
Hi people, Anybody who used the Cisco Press -CCDA Exam Preparation Guide- and took the DCN exam could give some advise about it? Is only it sufficient or the exam prep? tks a lot, leo ccna Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36762t=36762 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA passed [7:36543]
Decided it was a shame not to do the couple of exams to get to CCDP, so got hold of the Cisco Press DCN book last week and took the exam today. Managed a 922, although I wasn't even sure that I'd passed as I hit the final NEXT button. I was totally bored through the whole of the book and the exam did the same for me. The feeling that you're putting in gibberish, just because that was the answer when the test was written is not a good one. Not to worry, I'm hoping the CID is a little better, but I hear it may not be? I get the book next week - wishing for some interesting topics but not holding my breath. Gaz CCNP/CCDA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36543t=36543 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]
From what I have been told there will be no case studies in CID which to me is good news. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35694t=35619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]
Great!!! The 3/4 CCDA exam I took was Case studies. Ko jONATHAN fOSTER wrote: From what I have been told there will be no case studies in CID which to me is good news. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35706t=35619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]
Hi all, I just took the CCDA exam and it really sucked! The boson exam did not help at all and i have all of them. Lucky for me I still passed. The Cisco press helped but doesn't cover most of the areas. Most of the test was just reading, understand and assuming what should be done. . Now, is the CID exam going to be in the same format? Any ideas out there what study material should I use. Ko, CCNA,CCNP,CCDA.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35619t=35619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]
how you will succeed if you don't have lots of reading before you get into real practical...?? huh... you got the point, one reference book is not enough. the CID book from ciscopress is pretty good; again, find something else too, such as the cisco website, it has lots of materials, that's my recommendation. ko haag wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I just took the CCDA exam and it really sucked! The boson exam did not help at all and i have all of them. Lucky for me I still passed. The Cisco press helped but doesn't cover most of the areas. Most of the test was just reading, understand and assuming what should be done. . Now, is the CID exam going to be in the same format? Any ideas out there what study material should I use. Ko, CCNA,CCNP,CCDA.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35621t=35619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA ! [7:34288]
Hi All, I am planning to give CCDA exam and wondering what's the passing score. Thanks in advance. === WARNING This message may contain information that is confidential and may be subject to the provisions of section 61A of the Police Act 1958, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police documents. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, pass or copy this message or any of its contents. Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34288t=34288 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA ! [7:34288]
755 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA ! [7:34288] Hi All, I am planning to give CCDA exam and wondering what's the passing score. Thanks in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34290t=34288 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA ! [7:34288]
Sorry, under penalty of law this information is available only to those who can navigate the Cisco Web site or many other certification web sites. Thank you again for your interest. :-) On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:03:05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am planning to give CCDA exam and wondering what's the passing score. Thanks in advance. === WARNING This message may contain information that is confidential and may be subject to the provisions of section 61A of the Police Act 1958, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police documents. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, pass or copy this message or any of its contents. Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HSD System Engineer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/03/2002 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34297t=34288 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Material [7:32818]
Where do I find CCDA Material ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=32818t=32818 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA Material [7:32818]
If you are talking about just books and study guides then Amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com can't be beat. Most of the time they will even have used materials for almost half off the cost of the new. Just make sure you are getting the exact same thing. I've never really needed any more than one of the Cisco press books and an Exam Cram. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=32820t=32818 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA [7:29348]
Team, I will be taking the CCDA test next Saturday, I am studying the followings Books from Cisco Press (Top-Down Network Design and CCDA Exam Certification Guide).. My questions are the following: Are these books enough to pass the test and use the knowledge in the future Will the Boson test help me to verifiy my knowledge before taking the test Any tips of how to approach all the scenarios without wasting a lot of time in each one Thanks for taking your time (I know is valuable) in responding... JB MCSE, CCNA, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29348t=29348 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA [7:29348]
Juan, in my opinion they are enough, although it never hurts to practice with the Boson tests. I think I used #2, #1. Lots of concepts and case studies Hope this helps Juan Blanco wrote: Team, I will be taking the CCDA test next Saturday, I am studying the followings Books from Cisco Press (Top-Down Network Design and CCDA Exam Certification Guide).. My questions are the following: Are these books enough to pass the test and use the knowledge in the future Will the Boson test help me to verifiy my knowledge before taking the test Any tips of how to approach all the scenarios without wasting a lot of time in each one Thanks for taking your time (I know is valuable) in responding... JB MCSE, CCNA, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29350t=29348 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA Practice Test [7:28496]
Does anyone know which of the Boson Test to purchase for the CCDA Test? There are five different test that you can purchase. Thank you! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28496t=28496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson CCDA test? [7:28240]
try the exam essentials from certify.com they where great for the CCNA, and my CNE training. I noticed they just got it for the CCDA. I would of used it if not already got it. The CCDA is harder than the CCNA, a lot of Case Studies. Danny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Newton Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson CCDA test? [7:28240] I have a friend getting ready to test for this, which test do people recommend these days? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28264t=28240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson CCDA test? [7:28240]
I have a friend getting ready to test for this, which test do people recommend these days? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28240t=28240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24085t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
Cosmin, I did CCNP first and then decided to do CCDP which requires CCDA. The reason is that any reference to designing networks is positive. I have had many small firms ask me to design networks for them and they always notice the DA and DP. Also by studying the track it enhanced my knowledge. Check www.brainbuzz.net for salary surveys... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24126t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
yeah ditto that, if u want to design nets the da and dp are the way to go, if u want to maintain/support, the na and np are preferable. I would probably try for da and na before going to either the np or dp, for breadth reasons. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: Cosmin, I did CCNP first and then decided to do CCDP which requires CCDA. The reason is that any reference to designing networks is positive. I have had many small firms ask me to design networks for them and they always notice the DA and DP. Also by studying the track it enhanced my knowledge. Check www.brainbuzz.net for salary surveys... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24163t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just passed the CCDA [7:22247]
Hello, Just passed the CCDA. 90% That's an annoying exam IMHO. I really don't think it's that great of an exam. A lot of trivial stuff on it. On to the DP.. Tim Booth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22247t=22247 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
