Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread John Neiberger
You've got it! They can be used for iBGP, DNS resolution, GRE tunnel
endpoints, OSPF/BGP Router IDs, route summarization...the list goes on.

 Robert Edmonds 8/5/03 3:26:35 PM 
So, if I understand correctly, aside from OSPF router ID's and the like,
just use a loopback interface when you want an always up/up interface.
That's pretty simple.

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose
status
 is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
 configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it
may
 have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still
just
 another interface, as Dave said.

  MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

Dave

 Robert Edmonds wrote:
  You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
  However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly
  explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can
understand.
 I
  have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish
this.
  Any takers?
 
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread MADMAN
Dom wrote:
 OK Let me have a go at this - 
 
 A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it has
 many more. 
 
 How do we define the ip address of the router? 
 
 Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, HSSI
 or other WAN facing interface?
 
 If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the
 router. 
 
 This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with
 routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router 

   You won't get to the router no matter how many loopbacks you have 
if your phyical connection/s fail!!! :)

   Dave

 
 Best regards,
 
 Dom Stocqueler
 SysDom Technologies
 Visit our website - www.sysdom.org
 
 
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 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.
 
Dave
 
 Robert Edmonds wrote:
 
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 
 
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody 
solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that
 
 
accomplish this. Any takers?

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Edmonds
Rusty, was there a URL here that was truncated?  If so, I would very much
like to see it.  n_guide_chapter09186a0080087da4.html#3302

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 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
n_guide_chapter09186a0080087da4.html#3302

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You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
Any takers?

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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Dom
Thanks Dave,

I know - but if you are relying on just the address of just an interface
on a router with many WAN/LAN connections, you may have another way of
reaching it. Which was the point I was trying to make. When monitoring a
network do not assume a router is down just because a link/interface is
down.

All the best.


Dom


Dom wrote:
 OK Let me have a go at this -
 
 A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it 
 has many more.
 
 How do we define the ip address of the router?
 
 Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, 
 HSSI or other WAN facing interface?
 
 If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the

 router.
 
 This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with 
 routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router

   You won't get to the router no matter how many loopbacks you have 
if your phyical connection/s fail!!! :)

   Dave

 
 Best regards,
 
 Dom Stocqueler
 SysDom Technologies
 Visit our website - www.sysdom.org
 
 
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 Of MADMAN
 Sent: 05 August 2003 19:47
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 Subject: Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]
 
 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just
another
 
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.
 
Dave
 
 Robert Edmonds wrote:
 
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 
 
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that
 
 
accomplish this. Any takers?

Robert

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Edmonds
So, if I understand correctly, aside from OSPF router ID's and the like,
just use a loopback interface when you want an always up/up interface.
That's pretty simple.

John Neiberger  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose
status
 is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
 configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it may
 have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still
just
 another interface, as Dave said.

  MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

Dave

 Robert Edmonds wrote:
  You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
  However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly
  explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.
 I
  have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
  Any takers?
 
  Robert
 
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Reimer, Fred
It's very simple.  A loopback interface provides a connection point on a
router that is not tied to a physical interface.  It is very useful in many
situations, for basically the same reason.  Take OSPF for example.  Without
a loopback it will use the address of one of its physical interfaces for the
routerID (unless you force it).  If that interface was to go down, then the
OSPF process would burp, and you'd have problems.  Using a loopback
interface will ensure the same routerID no matter what the physical
interfaces were doing.  Take management traffic for example.  Typical
management applications use SNMP to poll the router for interface
statistics, etc.  If you polled on the primary WAN interface, for example a
T1 line, and that T1 went down, then you would not be able to retrieve any
statistics at all, even if you had a backup ISDN line on the router.

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You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-07 Thread John Neiberger
Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose status
is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it may
have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still just
another interface, as Dave said.

 MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another 
interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
 explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand. 
I
 have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-06 Thread Dom
OK Let me have a go at this - 

A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it has
many more. 

How do we define the ip address of the router? 

Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, HSSI
or other WAN facing interface?

If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the
router. 

This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with
routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router 

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies
Visit our website - www.sysdom.org


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I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another

interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.

 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody 
 solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
 understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that

 accomplish this. Any takers?
 
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-05 Thread Robert Edmonds
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
Any takers?

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-05 Thread MADMAN
I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another 
interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
 explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
 have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

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Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
I know the loopback interface is useful for assigning the router ID.  Is
there any other purpose?




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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread MADMAN
when doing unnumbered interfaces
   routing via loopbacks. Virtual templates, dialer interfaces etc...
   I use loopbacks for many testing reasons.
   load balancing and redundancy via BGP
   use as peer in DLSW for redundancy/stability
   generate routes

   Those are a couple I can think of off the top of me noodle

   Dave


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 there any other purpose?
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Larry Letterman
To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Cotts
1) It's an interface that never goes down.
2) It has a neat use in a situation where you have a VPN router-to-router
and are using NAT. You may have a server that uses a static NAT to allow
access from outside. To allow traffic from the server to traverse the VPN
tunnel - use a route-map to bounce the VPN traffic off an address in the
subnet of the loopback interface (which has no NAT statements).
3) In labs a small router can source many routes.

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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
our remote routers are configured to do ddr through the loopback interface.

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To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread John Neiberger
Loopbacks are handy for use with ip unnumbered. If you have a multipoint
interface using subinterfaces you could give every subinterface the same
address and keep everything on the same subnet.

They're also handy for DNS. If your router hostname resolves to its loopback
address you'll be able to reach the router using the hostname as long as
there is at least one real interface up. If you were to resolve the name to
an actual interface address you wouldn't be able to reach the router at all
of that interface were down.

John

 Wilmes, Rusty 7/31/03 4:49:11 PM 
our remote routers are configured to do ddr through the loopback interface.

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To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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I know the loopback interface is useful for assigning the router ID.  Is
there any other purpose?




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RE: Crypto Map in Loopback interface [7:39744]

2002-03-30 Thread Keyur Shah

You have to apply crypto map on real interface, otherwise phase I won't kick
off in case of crypto acl match. You can configure isakmp identity and peer
ip to loopback, provided you use the command crypto map mymap local-address.

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Yes, you can apply crypto may on the loopback, tunnel or Ethernet
interfaces. Just make sure that routing is setup correctly and use crypto
map mymap local-address lo0. You can create tunnel between loopback
interfaces or use on one router loopback interface and on another use
physical interface for peers.

--- Lidiya White


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Hi All,
 
Can I apply a crypto map to loopback interface or Ethernet Interface...?
(Currently the VPN tunnel is working fine with the crypto map applied to
Serial interface of the internet edge router)
 
IF yes, can I create a tunnel between loopback interfaces in peers...? Can I
create a tunnel between physical interface and the loopback interface?
 
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Crypto Map in Loopback interface [7:39744]

2002-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi All,
 
Can I apply a crypto map to loopback interface or Ethernet Interface...?
(Currently the VPN tunnel is working fine with the crypto map applied to
Serial interface of the internet edge router)
 
IF yes, can I create a tunnel between loopback interfaces in peers...? Can I
create a tunnel between physical interface and the loopback interface?
 
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RE: Crypto Map in Loopback interface [7:39744]

2002-03-28 Thread Lidiya White

Yes, you can apply crypto may on the loopback, tunnel or Ethernet
interfaces. Just make sure that routing is setup correctly and use
crypto map mymap local-address lo0.
You can create tunnel between loopback interfaces or use on one router
loopback interface and on another use physical interface for peers.

--- Lidiya White


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Can I apply a crypto map to loopback interface or Ethernet Interface...?
(Currently the VPN tunnel is working fine with the crypto map applied to
Serial interface of the internet edge router)
 
IF yes, can I create a tunnel between loopback interfaces in peers...?
Can I
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interface?
 
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loopback interface range for ospf bgp [7:38628]

2002-03-18 Thread Eric Waguespack

what range do people generally use? also.. if people
use /32 masks and advertise all of the loopback
networks via an igp doesn't that add a crap-load of
discontiguous routes to the ole route-table?

i guess what i am looking for is a case-study for a
large bgp/ospf installation, and how they treated
their loopback interfaces/router id's

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loopback interface range for ospf bgp [7:38628]

2002-03-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, our network is made up of a lot of remote sites, in a sort of 
three-level tree.  Each site has a range of networks that can be 
summarised.  The loopback(s) for a site are part of that range, so once 
the site's networks are summarised, it doesn't add any extra to the route 
table.  You don't want to know about the actual addressing - suffice to 
say it does not follow recommended addressing guidelines, but it's like 
that for historical reasons and we've never found a compelling reason to 
do the work required to change it.

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what range do people generally use? also.. if people
use /32 masks and advertise all of the loopback
networks via an igp doesn't that add a crap-load of
discontiguous routes to the ole route-table?

i guess what i am looking for is a case-study for a
large bgp/ospf installation, and how they treated
their loopback interfaces/router id's

thanks

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function of loopback interface [7:27181]

2001-11-23 Thread Henk Wolf

From what I've read the functions/benefits of the loopback interface
includes that it provides an entry point for console based telnet
sessions in the event that all physical interfaces are down.

Why is this a benefit?

You can always connect through the console to configure the router
even if you do not have a loopback interface defined, can't you?

So exactly, what are the profits that this can be done telnet-based?

A practical example would be great.

TIA,
 Henk 
 


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Loopback interface [7:20949]

2001-09-24 Thread Albert Y. Pak

Hi all,
What is the default speed of a loopback interface on a Cisco router?
Thanks,
Albert




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Re: Loopback interface [7:20949]

2001-09-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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8000 MB



 Hi all,
 What is the default speed of a loopback interface on a Cisco router?
 Thanks,
 Albert




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RE: Loopback interface [7:20949]

2001-09-24 Thread Albert Y. Pak

Ah, cool, thanks! Actually, I just found out the answer myself as well.

Loopback0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is Loopback
  Internet address is 10.1.11.6/32
  MTU 1514 bytes, BW 800 Kbit, DLY 5000 usec, 
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255

Thanks again.
Albert


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 Hi all,
 What is the default speed of a loopback interface on a Cisco router?
 Thanks,
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Loopback Interface [7:16174]

2001-08-15 Thread khramov

Would you please explain me in simple terms what is loopback interface?
One of the techs from our ISP told me to config my router for loopback
interface instead of multilink interface so that he would push the
config to my router.  He also told me that multilink requires high CPU
usage.  Would you please give me your opinion on this.
Thanks




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Re: Loopback Interface [7:16174]

2001-08-15 Thread Kevin Welch

16.htm#xtocid1566416

From CCO:

You can specify a software-only interface called a loopback interface that
emulates an interface that is always up. A loopback interface is a virtual
interface that allows BGP and RSRB sessions to stay up even if the outbound
interface is down, and is supported on all platforms.

You can use the loopback interface as the termination address for BGP
sessions, for RSRB connections, or for establishing a Telnet session from
the communication server's console to its auxiliary port when all other
interfaces are down. In applications where other communication servers will
attempt to reach this loopback interface, you should configure a routing
protocol to distribute the subnet assigned to the loopback address.

Packets routed to the loopback interface are rerouted back to the box and
processed locally. IP packets routed out the loopback interface but not
destined to the loopback interface are dropped. This means the loopback
interface also serves as the Null 0 interface.

-- Kevin


 Would you please explain me in simple terms what is loopback interface?
 One of the techs from our ISP told me to config my router for loopback
 interface instead of multilink interface so that he would push the
 config to my router.  He also told me that multilink requires high CPU
 usage.  Would you please give me your opinion on this.
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:16174]

2001-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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A loopback interface is a virtual interface you can configure on any router 
and has an 'always-up characteristic as recognized by the router itself.  
This makes it the most stable route of choice to be advertised by, say,
OSPF,
which, as a rule advertises the route with the highest physical # , or, if 
there are loopback interfaces that are configured and can be used, it ALWAYS 
uses loopback interfaces because of their stability and dependability on 
carrying the route advertisement.
Hth,
Rob H.

 Would you please explain me in simple terms what is loopback interface?
 One of the techs from our ISP told me to config my router for loopback
 interface instead of multilink interface so that he would push the
 config to my router.  He also told me that multilink requires high CPU
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-29 Thread Richard Chang

I can simply use the quote from Michael Williams' message above to answer
your question...

1. A loopback is a logical interface that never goes down.  It's used for
various reasons (for setting up various kinds of tunnels, for setting who is
the DR/BDR in OSPF, etc).

2. Many people use the subnet mask 255.255.255.255 because
that's the only way to assign a single IP to the lookback instead of using
more than 1 IP address. Therefore, you normally won't see /24s on loopback
interfaces.

Richard

Sim, CT (Chee Tong)  wrote in message
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 I have seems some routers with many lookback interfaces configured.  May I
 know what is the purpose to have so many lookback? I thought one loopback
 can help us to troubleshoot the connectivity

 Besides, I am interested about question 5 from Richard, you said the
 lookback IPs within same network can be configured on different router.
 Does it mean that if we configured many lookback interfaces, those IPs
must
 be in different network.  for example 192.168.101.101/24
192.168.102.102/24.
 But Any one know what is the reason??


  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

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 Susan Stone  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi..
 
  Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
  loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.
 
  1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
  (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is
connected
 to
  Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If
S1
  of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback
address.
 No.
 
  2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
  100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1
of
 B
  is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
 Yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still
telnet
  from A to B?
 Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still
up.

 
  4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
 Let
  say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
  20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

 Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

 
 
 
 
 
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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-28 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

I have seems some routers with many lookback interfaces configured.  May I
know what is the purpose to have so many lookback? I thought one loopback
can help us to troubleshoot the connectivity

Besides, I am interested about question 5 from Richard, you said the
lookback IPs within same network can be configured on different router.
Does it mean that if we configured many lookback interfaces, those IPs must
be in different network.  for example 192.168.101.101/24 192.168.102.102/24.
But Any one know what is the reason??   


 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard

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Susan Stone  wrote in message
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 Hi..

 Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
 loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

 1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
 (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected
to
 Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1
 of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.
No.

 2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
 100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of
B
 is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
Yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet
 from A to B?
Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still up.


 4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
Let
 say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
 20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard





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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-27 Thread Susan Stone

Hi..

Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on 
loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B 
(loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected to 
Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1 
of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.

2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int 
100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of B 
is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?

3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet 
from A to B?

4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?  Let 
say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is 
20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still 
configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same 
network.




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-27 Thread Richard Chang

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Susan Stone  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi..

 Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
 loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

 1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
 (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected
to
 Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1
 of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.
No.

 2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
 100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of
B
 is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
Yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet
 from A to B?
Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still up.


 4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
Let
 say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
 20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard





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what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Susan Stone

Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its 
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback 
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can 
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route 
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the 
network and which the host

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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

A loopback is a logical interface that never goes down.  It's used for
various reasons (for setting up various kinds of tunnels, for setting who is
the DR/BDR in OSPF, etc).  It can be set to any valid IP in your network,
not just private.  Many people use the subnet mask 255.255.255.255 because
that's the only way to assign a single IP to the lookback instead of using
more than 1 IP address.

Mike W.

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 Hi,

 I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
 function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
 always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
 telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
 as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
 network and which the host

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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

A loopback interface may be used for many purposes. You may use it as the
end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may configure it just to have
a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.

You don't need to configure it. They are optional and you may use any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a specific address scheme
in your network, then they must be planned for some specific function by who
designed the network. You should not change it before knowing what function
is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your configuration carefully).

The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also necessarily /24. This is
frequently used though, to economize address space, since you don't need to
differentiate network and host on this segment. In this case, host and
network are the same and routing is performed with no problem.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Susan Stone 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
network and which the host

Susan
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

Sorry,

Just a correction: the mask usually used for a loopback intf is /32
(255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

Rgards,

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Ednilson Rosa 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


A loopback interface may be used for many purposes. You may use it as the
end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may configure it just to have
a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.

You don't need to configure it. They are optional and you may use any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a specific address scheme
in your network, then they must be planned for some specific function by who
designed the network. You should not change it before knowing what function
is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your configuration carefully).

The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also necessarily /24. This is
frequently used though, to economize address space, since you don't need to
differentiate network and host on this segment. In this case, host and
network are the same and routing is performed with no problem.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Susan Stone
To:
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
network and which the host

Susan
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Inno. Ama

Sue, 

In addition to what ER had to say, the main purpose of
loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and
this helps you to possibly get into the router when
there is problem and all interfaces fail, now you can
see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router

inno/ccnp
--- Ednilson Rosa  wrote:
 Sorry,
 
 Just a correction: the mask usually used for a
 loopback intf is /32
 (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).
 
 Rgards,
 
 ER
 CCNA
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ednilson Rosa 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?
 [7:9493]
 
 
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.
 You may use it as the
 end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may
 configure it just to have
 a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional
 and you may use any
 address you want. If loopback intfs are following a
 specific address scheme
 in your network, then they must be planned for some
 specific function by who
 designed the network. You should not change it
 before knowing what function
 is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your
 configuration carefully).
 
 The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also
 necessarily /24. This is
 frequently used though, to economize address space,
 since you don't need to
 differentiate network and host on this segment. In
 this case, host and
 network are the same and routing is performed with
 no problem.
 
 ER
 CCNA
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Susan Stone
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
 Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can
 anyone explained its
 function? Can we don't configure the loopback
 interface. Our WAN Lookback
 always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use
 private IP? I found I can
 telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP. 
 But I wonder How I route
 as it always have the subnet mask  of
 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
 network and which the host
 
 Susan

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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread FELIX KISSIEDU

Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when your
router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up. the
subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this
is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak interface.
It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
designated or backup designated router(s).


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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread kevin jones

Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
desirable these days.

Kevin

Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

Qwest Communiations

 

From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
   Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
 From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
  address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
 specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
-   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
 Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
 interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Inno. Ama

The last mail I read before my response was about a
sarcastic remark from somebody on this list, somebody
actually took this up with his boss because he had a
signature just like Kevin. My question is, is this
what this board has come to? Ok, lets ignorantly agree
that you are right, is this the best way to put it
across to me? I believe you are a great engineer for
Quest and that you are a juniper expert, could this be
the difference between cisco and juniper boxes?
I have learnt alot from this group, I will not allow
you to change my perception of the well cultured
members of this group.

 
--- kevin jones  wrote:



Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the
router if all interfaces fail with the exception of
the loopback interface?nbsp; If ALL interfaces fail,
the only way you can get to the router is via console
or AUX.nbsp; And you call yourself a CCNP.nbsp; No
wonder the value of Cisco certification value (with
the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less desirable
these days.
Kevin
Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert
(JNCIE)
Qwest Communiations
nbsp;

gt;From: Inno. Ama 
gt;Reply-To: Inno. Ama

gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
gt;Subject: Re: what is loopback interface
for ? [7:9493] 
gt;Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400 
gt; 
gt;Sue, 
gt; 
gt;In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of 
gt;loopback address is actually contained
in your 
gt;question.loopback interface is
always up/up, and 
gt;this helps you to possibly get into the
router when 
gt;there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can 
gt;see what is going on and troubleshoot
after you have 
gt;telneted into the router 
gt; 
gt;inno/ccnp 
gt;--- Ednilson Rosa wrote: 
gt; gt; Sorry, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Just a correction: the mask
usually used for a 
gt; gt; loopback intf is /32 
gt; gt; (255.255.255.255) and not /24
(255.255.255.0). 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Rgards, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; ER 
gt; gt; CCNA 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; - Original Message - 
gt; gt; From: Ednilson Rosa 
gt; gt; To: 
gt; gt; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20
PM 
gt; gt; Subject: Re: what is loopback
interface for ? 
gt; gt; [7:9493] 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; A loopback interface may be used
for many purposes. 
gt; gt; You may use it as the 
gt; gt; end of a tunnel on a VPN
configuration or you may 
gt; gt; configure it just to have 
gt; gt; a stable router-id for OSPF, for
instance. 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; You don't need to configure it.
They are optional 
gt; gt; and you may use any 
gt; gt; address you want. If loopback
intfs are following a 
gt; gt; specific address scheme 
gt; gt; in your network, then they must
be planned for some 
gt; gt; specific function by who 
gt; gt; designed the network. You should
not change it 
gt; gt; before knowing what function 
gt; gt; is this (what may be achieved by
analyzing your 
gt; gt; configuration carefully). 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; The subnet mask used on a
loopback intf isn't also 
gt; gt; necessarily /24. This is 
gt; gt; frequently used though, to
economize address space, 
gt; gt; since you don't need to 
gt; gt; differentiate network and host on
this segment. In 
gt; gt; this case, host and 
gt; gt; network are the same and routing
is performed with 
gt; gt; no problem. 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; ER 
gt; gt; CCNA 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; - Original Message - 
gt; gt; From: Susan Stone 
gt; gt; To: 
gt; gt; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22
AM 
gt; gt; Subject: what is loopback
interface for ? [7:9493] 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Hi, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; I always wonder what is loopback
interface for? Can 
gt; gt; anyone explained its 
gt; gt; function? Can we don't configure
the loopback 
gt; gt; interface. Our WAN Lookback 
gt; gt; always start with 192.168.X.X
why? Must we use 
gt; gt; private IP? I found I can 
gt; gt; telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP. 
gt; gt; But I wonder How I route 
gt; gt; as it always have the subnet mask
of 
gt; gt; 255.255.255.255. Then which is
the 
gt; gt; network and which the host 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Susan 
gt; gt; 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

Nope.

255.255.255.0 (/24) is the standard class C mask. It allows 254 host
addresses instead of just one. By using this mask you will be wasting your
address space. If IP address availability is not an issue to you then go
ahead. Otherwise it's better to use a /32 (255.255.255.255) mask which only
permits one single address.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: FELIX KISSIEDU 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when your
router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up. the
subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this
is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak interface.
It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
designated or backup designated router(s).




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

I don't understand your statement the subnet mask normally assigned is
255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this is done so that only one Ip
address can be assigned to the loobak interface.Using the subnet mask
255.255.255.0 will waste IP addresses.  You would use the 255.255.255.255
subnet mask to make it so it only uses 1 IP address.

Although the loopback can be used to sway the DR/BDR election, it's also
used as endpoints in DLSw, STUN and BSTUN tunnels as well as for
administrative purposes as a way to reach a router no matter which
particular interface is up or down.  Also  they are commonly used as a
source of an IP address for IP unnumbered interfaces, since they never go
down.

Mike W.

FELIX KISSIEDU  wrote in message
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 Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when
your
 router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up.
the
 subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and
this
 is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak
interface.
 It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
 designated or backup designated router(s).




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not an
indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

Mike W.

kevin jones  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread CiscoG

I wouldn't worry too muchHe's got enough trouble trying to find
employment with that Juniper Certification! Haha!



-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not an
indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

Mike W.

kevin jones  wrote in message
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 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Brian

Kevin, I believe what was being sted was that in a router with
multiple ints, if some go down and some go up, routing info can still be
exchanged.  It is often the neighbor specified in a bgp config.

Brian Sonic Whalen
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, kevin jones wrote:

 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Peter I. Slow

Did you guys read what happened to me when i freaked at someone like that?
Take a look at the thread how to track down unused ports on a switch 
and then stop ripping on people who flame you for saying something stupid.
or.
stop saying stupid things.
or
just keep your mouth shut if you cant say anything useful.


BTW, d0rk, i can establish an IP connection to the AUX interface via the AUX
interface/PPP. isnt that an interface?
if all the interfaces fail that wouldnt work either.

stop being dicks.

Love,
Peter Slow. 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations
 
 
 
  From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
  Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say,
the
  main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
  question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
  possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
  fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
  telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
  Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
  loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

 Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
   From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM

   Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]      
  A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it
as
  the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
  it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
  You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use
any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
  address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
   specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
  change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
  achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
  subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
  is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
  don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
  this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
  with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
  -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
  7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
   Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
  anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
   interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why?
Must
  we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
  its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
  subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
  which the host Susan  
 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

People who send flames or retorts to flames are just like people who blow
themselves up in terrorist attacks: they think they're getting revenge, when
really they're the cause of the problem.

If it ain't Cisco-related, keep it private.  'Nuff said.


- Original Message -
From: Peter I. Slow
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Did you guys read what happened to me when i freaked at someone like that?
Take a look at the thread how to track down unused ports on a switch 
and then stop ripping on people who flame you for saying something stupid.
or.
stop saying stupid things.
or
just keep your mouth shut if you cant say anything useful.


BTW, d0rk, i can establish an IP connection to the AUX interface via the AUX
interface/PPP. isnt that an interface?
if all the interfaces fail that wouldnt work either.

stop being dicks.

Love,
Peter Slow.
To:
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations
 
 
 
  From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
  Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say,
the
  main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
  question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
  possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
  fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
  telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
  Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
  loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

 Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
   From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM

   Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]      
  A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it
as
  the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
  it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
  You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use
any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
  address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
   specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
  change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
  achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
  subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
  is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
  don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
  this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
  with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
  -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
  7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
   Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
  anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
   interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why?
Must
  we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
  its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
  subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
  which the host Susan  
 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin Wigle

I'm not really wanting to get into the sarcasm part of this thread but I am
wondering about the JNCIE.

I recently got email from a Juniper guy in Canada (who works for Juniper
Canada) and he signed it JNCIE #0005 (or maybe 0015), in any event a very
very low number.

I showed the email to a few buddies thinking that it would be cool to have
such a low number.

I just thought that anybody with that cert, who would use it in his email
signature - would quote his number just like the CCIE.

just an off topic type of thought

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: CiscoG 
To: 
Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2001 19:16
Subject: RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I wouldn't worry too muchHe's got enough trouble trying to find
 employment with that Juniper Certification! Haha!



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations




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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread David Eitel

dickhead

-Original Message-
From: kevin jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
desirable these days.

Kevin

Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

Qwest Communiations

 

From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
   Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
 From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
  address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
 specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
-   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
 Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
 interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
which the host Susan  
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Vincent Chong

By the way, cisco has new command can control the router id under ospf
router configuration.

router-id x.w.y.z (in ip address format)

Vincent Chong

Brad McConnell   There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in
their own area unless
 you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
 network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
definitely
 a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
 (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
 addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
OSPF
 domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
 router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
shown
 in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

 -Brad McConnell

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  Hi;
 
   For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
  interface.
  But what purpose, when should I do it?
 
  TIA
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Circusnuts



Couple off the top of my head:

OSPF Area router ID

If you're running OSPF as your IGP in a hub/spoke type topology, you'd want
BGP sourced on an interface that doesn't have a potential to go down.

Phil


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From: Vincent Chong 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:16 AM
Subject: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


 Hi;

  
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Carroll Kong

At 01:16 AM 5/17/01 -0400, Vincent Chong wrote:
Hi;

  For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
interface.
But what purpose, when should I do it?

TIA
Vincent Chong

Well, somewhat off topic, but the router id will lock on to the loopback 
address, which might stabilize the network more.  However, I think you even 
wrote to the list an email about that so that probably is not what you are 
asking.

Now why would you want to advertise a loopback interface using OSPF or any 
IGP?  To teach the IGP how to get their later on for redistribution into 
BGP.  Basically only used if you need to use an AS as a transit AS.  You 
have basically two choices.

IBGP (full mesh) to the ASBRs of the transit AS.  Or, you can redistribute 
the transit route through an IGP instead.  They tend to use loopback 
interfaces to help the transit ASs achieve more stability to avoid 
flappage.  I am somewhat new on this, so if I am wrong, I will happily 
defer to someone with more experience, but this is my take on it from what 
I have read.



-Carroll Kong




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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Peter Van Oene

You're pretty much there.  To clarify, transit AS's use only fully meshed
IBGP (assuming scalability techniques like Route Reflection and
Confederations also in use) and usually peer internally via loopback
addresses for stability and as you correctly point out, use the IGP to
distribute reachability information for those loopbacks.  Using IGP only
routers for transit might have worked at some point years ago, but simply
doesn't cut it anymore due to the sheer volume of paths in the internet.

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On 5/17/2001 at 10:04 AM Carroll Kong wrote:

At 01:16 AM 5/17/01 -0400, Vincent Chong wrote:
Hi;

  For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
interface.
But what purpose, when should I do it?

TIA
Vincent Chong

Well, somewhat off topic, but the router id will lock on to the loopback 
address, which might stabilize the network more.  However, I think you
even 
wrote to the list an email about that so that probably is not what you are 
asking.

Now why would you want to advertise a loopback interface using OSPF or any 
IGP?  To teach the IGP how to get their later on for redistribution into 
BGP.  Basically only used if you need to use an AS as a transit AS.  You 
have basically two choices.

IBGP (full mesh) to the ASBRs of the transit AS.  Or, you can redistribute 
the transit route through an IGP instead.  They tend to use loopback 
interfaces to help the transit ASs achieve more stability to avoid 
flappage.  I am somewhat new on this, so if I am wrong, I will happily 
defer to someone with more experience, but this is my take on it from what 
I have read.



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Fw: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want to be able to address the router as a whole (rather than a
particular interface), for example for SNMP, telnet, etc, then using a
loopback address is a good way to do it.Of course, if you do this, your
loopback address needs to be included in OSPF (or whatever routing protocol
you're running) so that it is visible throughout your network.

JMcL
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To:
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


 Brad is very correct on the use of Loopback interface in OSPF.

 1. Loopback interface is more stable than any other physical interface.
 Catch here is OSPF will continue to use a RID learned from a physical
 interface even if the interface subsequently fails. So nothing great
about
 this advantage.

 2. Admin's can assign RID in a more controlled way because RID's can
belong
 to same network/subnet across the entire OSPF domain. This is the main
 advantage of using Loopback interface in OSPF.

 Brijesh

 - Original Message -
 From: Brad McConnell
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


  There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area
unless
  you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
  network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
 definitely
  a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your
RIDs
  (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable,
meaningfull
  addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
 OSPF
  domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on
the
  router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
 shown
  in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...
 
  -Brad McConnell
 
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For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the
Loopback
   interface.
   But what purpose, when should I do it?
  
   TIA
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Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

 For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
interface.
But what purpose, when should I do it?

TIA
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread Brad McConnell

There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area unless
you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is definitely
a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
(used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the OSPF
domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as shown
in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

-Brad McConnell

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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread CCNP

Brad is very correct on the use of Loopback interface in OSPF.

1. Loopback interface is more stable than any other physical interface.
Catch here is OSPF will continue to use a RID learned from a physical
interface even if the interface subsequently fails. So nothing great about
this advantage.

2. Admin's can assign RID in a more controlled way because RID's can belong
to same network/subnet across the entire OSPF domain. This is the main
advantage of using Loopback interface in OSPF.

Brijesh

- Original Message -
From: Brad McConnell 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


 There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area unless
 you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
 network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
definitely
 a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
 (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
 addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
OSPF
 domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
 router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
shown
 in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

 -Brad McConnell

 Vincent Chong  wrote in message
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   For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
  interface.
  But what purpose, when should I do it?
 
  TIA
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Fw: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread CCNP

- Original Message -
From: CCNP 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


 Brad is very correct on the use of Loopback interface in OSPF.

 1. Loopback interface is more stable than any other physical interface.
 Catch here is OSPF will continue to use a RID learned from a physical
 interface even if the interface subsequently fails. So nothing great about
 this advantage.

 2. Admin's can assign RID in a more controlled way because RID's can
belong
 to same network/subnet across the entire OSPF domain. This is the main
 advantage of using Loopback interface in OSPF.

 Brijesh

 - Original Message -
 From: Brad McConnell 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


  There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area unless
  you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
  network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
 definitely
  a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your
RIDs
  (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable,
meaningfull
  addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
 OSPF
  domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
  router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
 shown
  in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...
 
  -Brad McConnell
 
  Vincent Chong  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Hi;
  
For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the
Loopback
   interface.
   But what purpose, when should I do it?
  
   TIA
   Vincent Chong
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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-06 Thread Alex Boh

Though I do not have an in-depth knowledge in loopback interface. I would
like to add on a bit of my experience working on it.

I have tried  to configure a loopback interface for NAT kind of config (For
Internet access ) with the interface as ip nat outside. It did not work.
Eventually, I have to remove it and put the nat outside statement into my
E0.(E1 is my ip nat inside)Surprising that works!!

I was told that loopback interface is only for intranet configuration. Is
this really true, I am not so sure?? :)Well that's was my experience

regards


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 Group,

 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
 address in the configuration ?
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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Alex Lee

Group,

I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
examples use /32 IP address like :

interface loopback 0
ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
address in the configuration ?
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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread dre

Reasons.  Plural.

1. This is a loopback interface.  It is always up.  Which means, if you
statically
or dynamically make this /32 host route accessible via anywhere in the
network,
you can connect via IP to this address instead of each regular interface
(serial and ethernet interfaces go down).  So as long as one of your regular
interfaces are up, you can reach the router via this loopback address.  This
could be especially useful for telnet/ssh remote access, snmp, and icmp
testing/troubleshooting/managing of a router.

2. Router-id in routing protocols is determined by the highest loopback
address
(assuming that one is configured).

3. You can use `ip unnumbered' to a loopback address.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but those three are good enough for me.

-dre

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 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
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Fw: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread perryb

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 Group,

 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
 address in the configuration ?
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RE: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Moe Tavakoli

A loopback interface is basically ina network of it's own.  it is not
connected to another Interface nor does it particcipate in the transport of
data (in it's normal form atleast.)  However it is used (specially in a
dynamic routing enviro) as a "reliable Interface" since it would be
available as long as at least one interface on the unit is up.  
Now for the /32 mask.  Well why waste more IPs than needed.  All you need is
1 is this "broadcast domain" there is nothing else connected to this
interface physically. 

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Subject: Fw: Loopback interface IP address

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Subject: Re: Loopback interface IP address


 Group,

 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes
their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
 address in the configuration ?
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RE: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

A loopback interface is basically ina network of it's own.  it is not
connected to another Interface nor does it particcipate in the transport of
data (in it's normal form atleast.)  However it is used (specially in a
dynamic routing enviro) as a "reliable Interface" since it would be
available as long as at least one interface on the unit is up. 
Now for the /32 mask.  Well why waste more IPs than needed.  All you need is
1 is this "broadcast domain" there is nothing else connected to this
interface physically.

OSPF has special treatment for /32 host routes, so I tend not to use 
them for loopbacks -- the entries in the link state database can look 
weird otherwise. I've also seen some weirdnesses with /30, so I'm apt 
to use a /29 subnet.

I wouldn't want my loopback addresses accessible from the public 
internet, so I will use private space -- and am not very worried 
about conserving it.
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loopback interface adsressing

2001-04-04 Thread Hossam El-Ashkar

Hello,
I had heard a lot about using the loopback interface for router ID for
OSPF, etc... because it never goes down. However, my question is about the
addressing of this interface, and whether I can assign an IP from the same
subnet to a loopback interface on a neighboring router, or I have to assign
a separate subnet on each router? and then how would this subnet be
reachable? I mean how would I advertise it in the routing protocol??
Thank you
Regards,
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Re: loopback interface adsressing

2001-04-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hello,
 I had heard a lot about using the loopback interface for router ID for
OSPF, etc... because it never goes down. However, my question is about the
addressing of this interface, and whether I can assign an IP from the same
subnet to a loopback interface on a neighboring router, or I have to assign
a separate subnet on each router?

Yes. I'm conservative, and will assign it a prefix no longer than /29 
to avoid odd effects if a routing protocol makes assumptions about 
point-to-point or hsot interfaces.  /32 should work, but doesn't in 
all releass.

Since you don't want your routers to be reachable from the outside 
world, use private address space for the loopbacks. Address 
conservation then doesn't become an issue.  I frequently start 
numbering loopback addresses  in 192.198.255.0/24 and work down.

and then how would this subnet be
reachable? I mean how would I advertise it in the routing protocol??

Just like any other subnet.

Thank you
Regards,
-
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RE: Loopback Interface

2001-03-08 Thread Nathan Chessin

just create a virtual interface and give it an ip address and mask.  Not you
should be able to ping it etc.  command to do this:

router(config)#interface loopback number   where number is 0 - big number
router(config-if)#ip address address subnet_mask

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Hi,

Could we use loopback interface for troubleshooting purposes and how?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Loopback interface

2001-02-20 Thread Chris Haller

The loopback interface is used within OSPF
configurations to enable an administrator to control
the Router ID's.  OSPF bases it's DR and BDR elections
and other aspects of configuration on the Highest
Router ID assigned within an AS.  By choosing to
assign a higher RID, which in this case is simply an
IP address, to a loopback interface, OSPF will choose
the loopback, if it exists, over any physical
interface no matter if the RID is higher on the
physical interface.


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Loopback interface

2001-02-18 Thread mak

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Re: Loopback interface

2001-02-18 Thread Jason Fletcher

There is some info about the loopback interface in this document.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/inter
_c/iclogint.htm#xtocid119671

watch for word wrap.

Jason Fletcher

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RE: deleting of my loopback interface

2001-02-09 Thread West, Karl

no int loopback #

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Sorry anyone knows how to delete a loopback interface
if it is incorrectly created?


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deleting of my loopback interface

2001-02-08 Thread suaveguru

Sorry anyone knows how to delete a loopback interface
if it is incorrectly created?


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Re: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-19 Thread thangs

Inorder to reflect the new router ID without rebooting ,You can shutdown
your serial 2/1 interface and then bring it up by no shutdown.

Thangavel
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface


 Some minor corrections.

 The OSPF process will use the *highest* loopback IP
 address if a loopback interface is configured.
 Otherwise, it uses the *highest* IP address on a
 physical interface. To configure OSPF (router ospf x)
 you need a interface with IP to be in a up/up state.

 You can reboot to have the router ID reflected or you
 can remove the OSPF process and add it back.

 --- Louie Belt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It will take the loopback address as it's ID, even
  if it is not the highest
  IP address on the router.  Loopbacks take precedence
  over higher IP's with
  respect to Router ID's for OSPF.  You will have to
  reboot your router for
  this change to be reflected.  Once an ID is chosen,
  it will keep that ID
  regardless of changes until the router is rebooted.
 
  Louie
 
 
 
 
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  Ejay Hire
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  Subject: Re: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
 
 
  No, It's the highest Ip on the router.
 
 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
  Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700
 
  If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will
  the router take it as
  the router ID?  Here's a scenario:
 
  Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1
 
  I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1
 
  Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?
  When does this happen?
  Doing:
 
  clear ip ospf process
 
  Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to
  force the router to take
  the ID from the loopback interface?  On another
  router, I couldn't get it to
  change until after reload.
 
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OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread John Deatherage

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
change until after reload.

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Re: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

No, It's the highest Ip on the router.


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Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
change until after reload.

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RE: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Louie Belt

It will take the loopback address as it's ID, even if it is not the highest
IP address on the router.  Loopbacks take precedence over higher IP's with
respect to Router ID's for OSPF.  You will have to reboot your router for
this change to be reflected.  Once an ID is chosen, it will keep that ID
regardless of changes until the router is rebooted.

Louie




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No, It's the highest Ip on the router.


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Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
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RE: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Erick B.

Some minor corrections.

The OSPF process will use the *highest* loopback IP
address if a loopback interface is configured.
Otherwise, it uses the *highest* IP address on a
physical interface. To configure OSPF (router ospf x)
you need a interface with IP to be in a up/up state. 

You can reboot to have the router ID reflected or you
can remove the OSPF process and add it back.

--- Louie Belt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It will take the loopback address as it's ID, even
 if it is not the highest
 IP address on the router.  Loopbacks take precedence
 over higher IP's with
 respect to Router ID's for OSPF.  You will have to
 reboot your router for
 this change to be reflected.  Once an ID is chosen,
 it will keep that ID
 regardless of changes until the router is rebooted.
 
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 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700
 
 If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will
 the router take it as
 the router ID?  Here's a scenario:
 
 Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1
 
 I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1
 
 Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID? 
 When does this happen?
 Doing:
 
 clear ip ospf process
 
 Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to
 force the router to take
 the ID from the loopback interface?  On another
 router, I couldn't get it to
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RE: Loopback Interface

2000-09-25 Thread Yee, Jason

loopback interface is an always up interface and it will not go down since
it is a virtual interface unlike physical interfaces which may be physically
down sometimes.

It is not necessary to use loopback for a point-to-point connection but you
are advised to use probably because it will be more reliable to map
frame-relay dlci no to loopback ip addresses since that will guarantee that
the frame-relay map is always reliable

Jason

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Hi all,
  What is a Loopback Interface and what is it's use ?.. Can anyone help
me
out.. In configuring FrameRelay for point-to-point connection, loopback
inetrface is been advised why ??

thanks in advance .


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Loopback Interface

2000-09-22 Thread NRS Hariharan

Hi all,
  What is a Loopback Interface and what is it's use ?.. Can anyone help me
out.. In configuring FrameRelay for point-to-point connection, loopback
inetrface is been advised why ??

thanks in advance .


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Re: Route-Map To Loopback Interface

2000-07-28 Thread Brian

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Adrian Chew wrote:

 I've seen this in some configurations where traffic is sent via a route-map
 to an IP address that is on the same subnet as a router's loopback
 interface.
 
 Eg.
 
 interface ethernet 0
  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
  ip policy route-map abc
 
 interface loopback 0
 ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.0
 
 access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255
 
 route-map abc permit 10
  match ip address 100
  set ip next-hop 192.168.255.2
 
 Could anyone explain how having traffic routed via a loopback interface
 might help in certain situations?

load balacing for one.

For example:

R1
ip cef

int loopback 0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

int ethernet 0
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0

int serial 0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
 ip load-sharing per-packet

int serial 1 
 ip address 192.168.1.5 255.255.255.252
 ip load-sharing per-packet

ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2
ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.6
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1

R2
ip cef

int loopback 0
 ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0

int serial 0
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
 ip load-sharing per-packet

int serial 1
 ip address 192.168.1.6 255.255.255.252
 ip load-sharing per-packet

ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.5
ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.1.1

You could save yourself some configuring and whatnot by using an IGP to
get the dual routes injected instead of declaring them statically here,
but I did static here to illustrate

Brian

 
 Thanks.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Route-Map To Loopback Interface

2000-07-28 Thread Adrian Chew

Brian,

Thanks for the example - hitting the loopbacks on REMOTE routers is easy to
understand (as is loopback interfaces for BGP connections and OSPF Router
IDs).  However, I've seen traffic being routed to an IP address on the same
subnet as the router's loopback interface is on.  Eg.

E0  R1  Loop 0  R1  S0  R2  E0  IP destination

The actual destination IP address might be a subnet on some other remote
router but the traffic is first directed to an IP address on the same subnet
as the router's own loopback address.  I believe its done to avoid some sort
of traffic from hitting NAT on the way out, but having an access-list
definition for NAT traffic should already take care of this.

Take a look at the initial route-map configuration I gave - traffic from E0
bound for network 192.168.2.0/24 (not a destination on the router's own
connected interfaces) is set for next-hop IP address of 192.168.255.2 (the
router's loopback IP address is 192.168.255.1 with a /24 mask).

Regards,
Adrian

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 On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Adrian Chew wrote:

  I've seen this in some configurations where traffic is sent via a
route-map
  to an IP address that is on the same subnet as a router's loopback
  interface.
 
  Eg.
 
  interface ethernet 0
   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
   ip policy route-map abc
 
  interface loopback 0
  ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.0
 
  access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255
 
  route-map abc permit 10
   match ip address 100
   set ip next-hop 192.168.255.2
 
  Could anyone explain how having traffic routed via a loopback interface
  might help in certain situations?

 load balacing for one.

 For example:

 R1
 ip cef

 int loopback 0
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

 int ethernet 0
  ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0

 int serial 0
  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
  ip load-sharing per-packet

 int serial 1
  ip address 192.168.1.5 255.255.255.252
  ip load-sharing per-packet

 ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2
 ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.6
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1

 R2
 ip cef

 int loopback 0
  ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0

 int serial 0
  ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
  ip load-sharing per-packet

 int serial 1
  ip address 192.168.1.6 255.255.255.252
  ip load-sharing per-packet

 ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
 ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.5
 ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.1.1

 You could save yourself some configuring and whatnot by using an IGP to
 get the dual routes injected instead of declaring them statically here,
 but I did static here to illustrate

 Brian

 
  Thanks.
 
  Regards,
  Adrian
 
 
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Re: Route-Map To Loopback Interface

2000-07-28 Thread Kenny Sallee

The only thing I can think of is with that setup you have, any traffic from
source .1.0 to destination 2.0 will be routed via the loopback and thus
droppedCan't think of anything else

Kenny

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 Brian,

 Thanks for the example - hitting the loopbacks on REMOTE routers is easy
to
 understand (as is loopback interfaces for BGP connections and OSPF Router
 IDs).  However, I've seen traffic being routed to an IP address on the
same
 subnet as the router's loopback interface is on.  Eg.

 E0  R1  Loop 0  R1  S0  R2  E0  IP destination

 The actual destination IP address might be a subnet on some other remote
 router but the traffic is first directed to an IP address on the same
subnet
 as the router's own loopback address.  I believe its done to avoid some
sort
 of traffic from hitting NAT on the way out, but having an access-list
 definition for NAT traffic should already take care of this.

 Take a look at the initial route-map configuration I gave - traffic from
E0
 bound for network 192.168.2.0/24 (not a destination on the router's own
 connected interfaces) is set for next-hop IP address of 192.168.255.2 (the
 router's loopback IP address is 192.168.255.1 with a /24 mask).

 Regards,
 Adrian

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  On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Adrian Chew wrote:
 
   I've seen this in some configurations where traffic is sent via a
 route-map
   to an IP address that is on the same subnet as a router's loopback
   interface.
  
   Eg.
  
   interface ethernet 0
ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
ip policy route-map abc
  
   interface loopback 0
   ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.0
  
   access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255
  
   route-map abc permit 10
match ip address 100
set ip next-hop 192.168.255.2
  
   Could anyone explain how having traffic routed via a loopback
interface
   might help in certain situations?
 
  load balacing for one.
 
  For example:
 
  R1
  ip cef
 
  int loopback 0
   ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 
  int ethernet 0
   ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 
  int serial 0
   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
   ip load-sharing per-packet
 
  int serial 1
   ip address 192.168.1.5 255.255.255.252
   ip load-sharing per-packet
 
  ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2
  ip route 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.6
  ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.1
 
  R2
  ip cef
 
  int loopback 0
   ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
 
  int serial 0
   ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
   ip load-sharing per-packet
 
  int serial 1
   ip address 192.168.1.6 255.255.255.252
   ip load-sharing per-packet
 
  ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
  ip route 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.5
  ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.1.1
 
  You could save yourself some configuring and whatnot by using an IGP to
  get the dual routes injected instead of declaring them statically here,
  but I did static here to illustrate
 
  Brian
 
  
   Thanks.
  
   Regards,
   Adrian
  
  
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Route-Map To Loopback Interface

2000-07-27 Thread Adrian Chew

I've seen this in some configurations where traffic is sent via a route-map
to an IP address that is on the same subnet as a router's loopback
interface.

Eg.

interface ethernet 0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip policy route-map abc

interface loopback 0
ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.0

access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255

route-map abc permit 10
 match ip address 100
 set ip next-hop 192.168.255.2

Could anyone explain how having traffic routed via a loopback interface
might help in certain situations?

Thanks.

Regards,
Adrian


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