Passed CCIE written exam [7:62854]
Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62854t=62854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written exam [7:62854]
I feel that I need to say something. You just sent this exact same message a week ago. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Paul Dong So [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE written exam [7:62854] Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62883t=62854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed ccie written [7:62395]
Congrats Paul! I am preparing for the written also, but I confuse if it better for me to take CCIP first (because of MPLS topic) ? Does the written cover very in-depth in MPLS like the CCIP (MPLS) does ? or even more than that ? Coz, I'm still blur in MPLS. Thank's Regards, Christ A. - Original Message - From: paul dong so To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: Re: passed ccie written [7:62395] Token Ring, IPX are listed in Blueprint, I will not skip those topics. As for questions, they are really the questions you should know the answers. cheers, Paul Leon Zhao wrote: Congrats. I've been seeing complaints about too much questions on old tech such as Token Ring, IPX. Did you have the same feeling? Thanks, Leon paul dong so wrote: Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62488t=62395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passed ccie written [7:62395]
Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62395t=62395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed ccie written [7:62395]
Congrats. I've been seeing complaints about too much questions on old tech such as Token Ring, IPX. Did you have the same feeling? Thanks, Leon paul dong so wrote: Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62458t=62395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed ccie written [7:62395]
Token Ring, IPX are listed in Blueprint, I will not skip those topics. As for questions, they are really the questions you should know the answers. cheers, Paul Leon Zhao wrote: Congrats. I've been seeing complaints about too much questions on old tech such as Token Ring, IPX. Did you have the same feeling? Thanks, Leon paul dong so wrote: Hi all, Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group. Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple, will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to check the questions. Passing score 58. Highly recommend 1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to waste your brain resource memorizing the answers. 2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn, mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read superficially, but not in depth. 3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my another failing point. 4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls, Caslow. Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab. Cheers, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62476t=62395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed ccie written [7:62484]
Hi, I think my PC has problem, my emails don't seem to be shown, but they are actully there. If I have sent a few of them, please forgive me. :) I was asked a few questions, here are the answers: 1. token ring and ipx are the topics you need to know as they are listed in the blueprint 2. there are exhibition questions, quite a few, you can prepare yourself via boson exam 3. reading CCO website to expand the topics on the books. Normally they are more uptodate. But it is up to your time allocation scheme as online materials are vast. If you don't have time, you can choose the topics you are not that good at or you find the books can't answer your questions. HTH Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62484t=62484 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE written.. [7:60011]
Hi guys, guess what. Yesterday passed CCIE written with 73%. Passing score was only 58%.This exam is a bit different from the usual CCNP exams. It starts immediatly without any survey or instructions. Exam was non-adaptive, which means you could go back to check your answers. No simulations. 150 questions, half of which were exhibits I think. Time was 180 mins. All mix of questions, some were a suprise and some were the routine ones. For some I had to use process of elimination to choose the best as the wording was very close. Alot of exhibit questions and screenshots. VoIP, Qos, MPLS, and other multiservice was definitely there and seems to be cisco's favorites these days. I had enough time to go back and recheck all my answers. One thing I noticed was that there weren't many questions on routing protocols (OSPF, EIGRP, BGP) in particular. For some I even had to use my knowledge of MCSE and my general network knowledge to crack the answers, so your general networking skills pay. Well now this is over, seems like it never happened. Now I need to get back to looking for a job. yea I've been unemployed for 6 months straight now, and did my CCNA,CCNP and the RS qualification exam (and also updated my MCSE to 2000 track) in a period of 6 months, although I have 3 years of general IT experience. Most of my past experience has been on NT/2000 networking. So anyone interesting in hiring young blood. :) Hey if anyone needs some 411, tips or advise, feel free. Irfan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60011t=60011 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093]
It's my turn now. I passed my written yesterday with 82%. I would like to thank the following wonderful people for their time and help: Folks @ NLI for the well written study guide Lou Rossi for the TR paper Dennis Laganiere for Boson #3 and all the freebies on his website (and thanks for the RIF's document) Bernard Omrani for Boson #1 #2 and for answering all my queries (and thanks for that additional questions) Folks @ CCXX Productions for handy practice questions with explanations and the last but not the least everybody on this list. You have inspired me achieve this. Now on to lab. -Rayappa. -- Rayappa Mayakunthala Systems Manager Wilco International Systems Hyderabad, India This message is confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. The views and opinions expressed in this e-mail message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Wilco. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50093t=50093 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093]
Rayappa, Congratulation, well donenow is time to move on into the big task, the lab. My advise to you, don't despair, get used to allocate at least 4 hours a day(that is the way I am doing and it seems to be working)miniumun, I do a lot of reading in the morning before going to work and then hands-on on he lab in the evening. Don't lost contact with this group there is no other place like this (My thanks to every one on this group)..It can be done, others had done it, it just require dedication and sacrifices. Good luck and God Bless us all.. Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rayappa Mayakunthala Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093] It's my turn now. I passed my written yesterday with 82%. I would like to thank the following wonderful people for their time and help: Folks @ NLI for the well written study guide Lou Rossi for the TR paper Dennis Laganiere for Boson #3 and all the freebies on his website (and thanks for the RIF's document) Bernard Omrani for Boson #1 #2 and for answering all my queries (and thanks for that additional questions) Folks @ CCXX Productions for handy practice questions with explanations and the last but not the least everybody on this list. You have inspired me achieve this. Now on to lab. -Rayappa. -- Rayappa Mayakunthala Systems Manager Wilco International Systems Hyderabad, India This message is confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. The views and opinions expressed in this e-mail message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Wilco. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50137t=50093 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093]
Congratulations Rayappa my test is scheduled for this friday, so I am burning my brains out right now :) Good luck on this road to the lab :) Persio - Original Message - From: Rayappa Mayakunthala To: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093] It's my turn now. I passed my written yesterday with 82%. I would like to thank the following wonderful people for their time and help: Folks @ NLI for the well written study guide Lou Rossi for the TR paper Dennis Laganiere for Boson #3 and all the freebies on his website (and thanks for the RIF's document) Bernard Omrani for Boson #1 #2 and for answering all my queries (and thanks for that additional questions) Folks @ CCXX Productions for handy practice questions with explanations and the last but not the least everybody on this list. You have inspired me achieve this. Now on to lab. -Rayappa. -- Rayappa Mayakunthala Systems Manager Wilco International Systems Hyderabad, India This message is confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. The views and opinions expressed in this e-mail message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Wilco. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50143t=50093 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093]
Hi Persio, I am waiting the details in the next day after the examination. good luck! Lindolfo Alves. Persio Pucci escreveu na mensagem [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Congratulations Rayappa my test is scheduled for this friday, so I am burning my brains out right now :) Good luck on this road to the lab :) Persio - Original Message - From: Rayappa Mayakunthala To: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: Passed CCIE written 350-001 [7:50093] It's my turn now. I passed my written yesterday with 82%. I would like to thank the following wonderful people for their time and help: Folks @ NLI for the well written study guide Lou Rossi for the TR paper Dennis Laganiere for Boson #3 and all the freebies on his website (and thanks for the RIF's document) Bernard Omrani for Boson #1 #2 and for answering all my queries (and thanks for that additional questions) Folks @ CCXX Productions for handy practice questions with explanations and the last but not the least everybody on this list. You have inspired me achieve this. Now on to lab. -Rayappa. -- Rayappa Mayakunthala Systems Manager Wilco International Systems Hyderabad, India This message is confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. The views and opinions expressed in this e-mail message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Wilco. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/7/2002 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50155t=50093 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
Frank, Like you I did not study for the beta exam (I wanted to know what it was all about and not loose 300 bucks.) I have not received my graded beta exam yet not did I expect to pass (however if the pass grade was 45, I may have passed.) You are on target with saying that the current exam was much easier (mostly becasue the beta had newly added subjects that I have no practical experiance with.) BTW: I highly recommend attending the PS session (or atleast trying to get your hand on a copy of the PS CCIE book) Oleg Oz. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47782t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
BTW: I highly recommend attending the PS session (or atleast trying to get your hand on a copy of the PS CCIE book) Unfortunately the company I'm with isn't going to pay for the PS, and so I actually won't be attending, but I grabbed the PDF of the presentation from last years Networkers, and I'l likely do the same for this years one. If that is what you are referring to when you mention PS CCIE book!? Good Luck! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47785t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
Yes, I meant the book that you get when you attend the CCIE Power Session. My company did not want to pay for it either, until I said I would pay for it myself. Go figure, beside 450 bucks is nothing with respect to the information that you get out of it! Oleg Oz. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47790t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47791]
Chalk it up to the newbie to ask What is the PS CCIE book? Kim From: Frank Merrill Date: 2002/06/30 Sun PM 12:44:23 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764] BTW: I highly recommend attending the PS session (or atleast trying to get your hand on a copy of the PS CCIE book) Unfortunately the company I'm with isn't going to pay for the PS, and so I actually won't be attending, but I grabbed the PDF of the presentation from last years Networkers, and I'l likely do the same for this years one. If that is what you are referring to when you mention PS CCIE book!? Good Luck! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47791t=47791 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San D [7:47791]
Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant to say was the CCIE Power Session Manual - you get this when you attend the CCIE power session at Networkers (Cisco's networking event) Oleg Oz. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47792t=47791 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San D [7:47791]
Thanks... For me that will have to be a next year thing. :) Kim From: Oleg Oz Date: 2002/06/30 Sun PM 04:50:33 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San D [7:47791] Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant to say was the CCIE Power Session Manual - you get this when you attend the CCIE power session at Networkers (Cisco's networking event) Oleg Oz. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47795t=47791 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
I took the beta also. I just my results missed by 9% but I went in without having the new topics mastered so expected something like that. The exam felt better overall...seemed practical focused. I am heading out to networkers in Orlando in a week and I am going to hit the CCIE PS and on day 2 I am going to sit for the 350-001 exam. Glad to hear similar thoughts/agendas. Thanks for the pointers gents! KC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47794t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
I'm taking the written tomorrow morning at 10am est. All you folks are an inspiration...I'll let you know what happens. Robert -Original Message- From: ken clifford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764] I took the beta also. I just my results missed by 9% but I went in without having the new topics mastered so expected something like that. The exam felt better overall...seemed practical focused. I am heading out to networkers in Orlando in a week and I am going to hit the CCIE PS and on day 2 I am going to sit for the 350-001 exam. Glad to hear similar thoughts/agendas. Thanks for the pointers gents! KC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47805t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
I wanted to drop a line to the group and thank everyone for adding thier 2 cents! I mean it! Having other folks point out potential issues/uses of a specific technology really helps fill in the picture. So Thanks again! I took the beta (351-001) exam at the beginging of May (have not recived the officialy graded exam yet) and did not feel like I passed so I took the current exam (350-001) at networkers and passed !!! Oleg Oz. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47764t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written at Networkers in San Diego [7:47764]
Seemed like a much easier exam didn't it? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47771t=47764 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written! [7:46190]
Hello All - I passed the routing and switching exam Sunday. Thanks to the group. You all have been very helpful. On to the Lab CJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46190t=46190 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881]
Good Job! Congratulations! Joe Tutokey Juli Hato wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Congratulation Scott Chapin HATO From: Amir Azhar Jamaluddin Reply-To: Amir Azhar Jamaluddin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:58:25 -0400 Congratulation on your success. May you do well in the lab too. Bravo -nict- -Original Message- From: scott chapin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881] Hello All - I passed the routing and switching exam today. I wanted to pass on a big thanks to the group. You all have been very helpful. I used: Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert by Sybex Boson practice exams Token Ring paper by Lou Rossi www.cisco.com, www.cisco.com, and www.cisco.com :) Now on to the lab! Scott Chapin CCNP _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46227t=45881 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881]
Hello All - I passed the routing and switching exam today. I wanted to pass on a big thanks to the group. You all have been very helpful. I used: Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert by Sybex Boson practice exams Token Ring paper by Lou Rossi www.cisco.com, www.cisco.com, and www.cisco.com :) Now on to the lab! Scott Chapin CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45881t=45881 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881]
Congratulation on your success. May you do well in the lab too. Bravo -nict- -Original Message- From: scott chapin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881] Hello All - I passed the routing and switching exam today. I wanted to pass on a big thanks to the group. You all have been very helpful. I used: Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert by Sybex Boson practice exams Token Ring paper by Lou Rossi www.cisco.com, www.cisco.com, and www.cisco.com :) Now on to the lab! Scott Chapin CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45894t=45881 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881]
Congratulation Scott Chapin HATO From: Amir Azhar Jamaluddin Reply-To: Amir Azhar Jamaluddin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:58:25 -0400 Congratulation on your success. May you do well in the lab too. Bravo -nict- -Original Message- From: scott chapin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written! [7:45881] Hello All - I passed the routing and switching exam today. I wanted to pass on a big thanks to the group. You all have been very helpful. I used: Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert by Sybex Boson practice exams Token Ring paper by Lou Rossi www.cisco.com, www.cisco.com, and www.cisco.com :) Now on to the lab! Scott Chapin CCNP _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45908t=45881 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written [7:44441]
From the content of your posts I had always figured that you had passed the written and were working on the lab, congrats. Have you set a date yet? Hal -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE written [7:1] I passed CCIE written. In my opinion, it's an old, useless test, and defintily needs updating. CVoice or CCDP is a tougher test. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44527t=1 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE written [7:44441]
I passed CCIE written. In my opinion, it's an old, useless test, and defintily needs updating. CVoice or CCDP is a tougher test. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1t=1 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written [7:44441]
I did the new CCDP (CID 3.0) exam a week ago. As I was going through it, I was disappointed with the level of knowledge required to pass. I thought to myself that most of the material covered focused on CCNA/CCDA concepts - which again, is quite disappointing because by the time you do that exam for the CCDP certification, you should already have the core CCxP exams and the CCDA behind you. And some of the questions were complete gimme's. Mind you, I did like the X.25 questions... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE written [7:1] I passed CCIE written. In my opinion, it's an old, useless test, and defintily needs updating. CVoice or CCDP is a tougher test. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7t=1 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written [7:38642]
I passed the CCIE written on Saturday... I used Que's CCIE Prep Kit Boson Tests 1,2 and 3 Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper RIF Generator at www.loopy.org and of course the CCO Thank you all for the informative posts. And now on to the mother of all monsters. Eric Mwambaji CCNP __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38642t=38642 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:32928]
Congrats! Kwame wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Passed 350-001 yesterday by a whisker (74%). Yeah it was that close. Typical of ciscoese, lots of the questions lacked clarity so watch out. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33004t=32928 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written [7:30165]
Well done ! All the best for your LAB Suranjith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30176t=30165 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:30165]
Congratulation! Could you give some advices on the refernece book? Thanks! Donny Mateo wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dear list, I've just taken the CCIE written qualification test and passed. I was queer though that though I thought i can answer most to of them I found the score says the other way around... I want to thank you to each and everyone of you and Lou Rossi (if he's in the list) for making it possible for me. Thank you all. I understand that the written test is a start of something far more difficult, guess no I will shoved myself into more serious studies than I've ever been for the lab. Donny _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30198t=30165 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written [7:30165]
Dear list, I've just taken the CCIE written qualification test and passed. I was queer though that though I thought i can answer most to of them I found the score says the other way around... I want to thank you to each and everyone of you and Lou Rossi (if he's in the list) for making it possible for me. Thank you all. I understand that the written test is a start of something far more difficult, guess no I will shoved myself into more serious studies than I've ever been for the lab. Donny _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30165t=30165 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
Hi Nick, Sorry not to reply earlier. I was on a business trip. Yes, I got the Network Learning Guide from CCBOOTCAMP folks. Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614] Sorry, missed the earlier one.. btw, how was the CCIE prep guide (QUE) and the Network Learning Guide. I am assuming that Network learning are the CCBOOTCAMP guys (correct me if I am wrong). Nick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29171t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]
Well, think about it this way. You have a test with 26 questions. You get a === Section 1: 100% Section 2: 33% Section 3: 33% Final Score: 85% === It doesn't make much since until you consider what they don't tell you. Section 1: 20 questions Section 2: 3 questions Section 3: 3 questions so, (1*20) + (0.33*3) + (0.33*3) = 22 22/26 = 84.6% -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772] For a long time now I had ignored the Cisco scoring pattern, the bottom line is that you passed. When I was writing my CCNP/CCDP series, I discover that in 2 of the papers I got on each 2 100%, a few 30-something % and an embarasing 0% but the final score read 80-something %, close to 90%. From that time I start ignoring their scoring system, Cisco need to re-write their scoring algorithm. Congrats, on to the big moster. Regards. Oletu - Original Message - From: Derek Gaff To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772] Passed CCIE Written today, Was not a bit impressed with my score, got 71% with a pass score of 70%. Just scraped the bucket with this one. Although I can't understand there scoring method. I got 100% in 3 items, 80% in 2 and between 50 and 70% in the rest. :-) Anyway, a pass is a pass no matter what the score is. Thanks for all the information and thoughts. Cheers Derek _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28832t=28772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]
Passed CCIE Written today, Was not a bit impressed with my score, got 71% with a pass score of 70%. Just scraped the bucket with this one. Although I can't understand there scoring method. I got 100% in 3 items, 80% in 2 and between 50 and 70% in the rest. :-) Anyway, a pass is a pass no matter what the score is. Thanks for all the information and thoughts. Cheers Derek Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28772t=28772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]
Good work.. I passed yesterday (got 83). Just wondering and also for the sake of others, what did u read (books etc. )bosons if any. Since I am trying to work on a set of books/materials which people can use, since there is lots of confusion going around. Thanks Nick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28778t=28772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]
For a long time now I had ignored the Cisco scoring pattern, the bottom line is that you passed. When I was writing my CCNP/CCDP series, I discover that in 2 of the papers I got on each 2 100%, a few 30-something % and an embarasing 0% but the final score read 80-something %, close to 90%. From that time I start ignoring their scoring system, Cisco need to re-write their scoring algorithm. Congrats, on to the big moster. Regards. Oletu - Original Message - From: Derek Gaff To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772] Passed CCIE Written today, Was not a bit impressed with my score, got 71% with a pass score of 70%. Just scraped the bucket with this one. Although I can't understand there scoring method. I got 100% in 3 items, 80% in 2 and between 50 and 70% in the rest. :-) Anyway, a pass is a pass no matter what the score is. Thanks for all the information and thoughts. Cheers Derek _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28786t=28772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
I just passed my qualification test with an 83. It was not an easy test, considering the topics covered. However, I must admit that nothing on the test was beyond the blue print (from CCO). I must admit that being a CCNP is definitely an advantage when one goes for this test, the coverage is different, since more concentration is on theoritical topics, desktop protocols of course token ring SRB/DLSW/RSRB/etc. bridging, rather than the actual routing protocols. I would attempt to suggest a path that one may take (books etc.) while preparing for this test. This will apply mostly to CCNP/DP's one with experience (NP/DP level). Read : 1. Internetworking TEch. overview (CCO) this is an absolute must, however not many who have passed the test seem to refer to this. It certainly has no commands kinda info, but packet types, frame types, layers etc. are plentiful, and these are tested. 2. Caslow : I have mixed responses about caslow, no doubt it is a very good book, no doubt I couldnt have studied some of the topics without it, no doubt that it has a wealth of concentrated info, however one can bypass it. It is replaceable. 3. Read chapter on ATM LANE from LAN switching book by Kennedy Clark (Cisco Press). Its the best explanation one can get. 4. If a CCNP, read all the 4 books, read DLSW + RSRB + SRB papers from CCO. 5. Know the boot sequence the boot register in out. 6. Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper 7. Dennis Laganiere's RIF examples (good examples) 8. CCO Blue print(probably the most imp. ), I used to go back and forth forming my own Q's about a particular topic. One can replace Caslow (for written, its an absolute must for LAB) by referring to all the above mentioned material. I would recommend taking Written almost immediately after CCNP, while the material is still fresh. And lastly, the most important is BOSON tests, especially 2 3, test 3 has now about 400Q's and that really tests most of the stuff. Experience with actual hardware is important, however I would think that Cisco doesnt rely on actual experience with hardware for this test atleast (NP/DP tests albeit do rely on experience) I would like to thank everyone on this group. now enroute to LAB, and also being part of the exclusive LAB study group (on groupstudy, where else :) Nick Shah Network Engr. Connect Internet Solutions Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28614t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
Congratulation!!! I passed this exam as well, at the first attempt with a 75% 2 days ago. I used: 1) Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper 2) Network Learning CCIE Written Prep Guide 3) CCIE Prep Kit from QUE I agreed with Nick this is not an easy exam. I would also suggest everyone who has done with CCNP, should take this exam within a short period of time. Thanks everyone on this group. On to the Lab exam!!! Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614] I just passed my qualification test with an 83. It was not an easy test, considering the topics covered. However, I must admit that nothing on the test was beyond the blue print (from CCO). I must admit that being a CCNP is definitely an advantage when one goes for this test, the coverage is different, since more concentration is on theoritical topics, desktop protocols of course token ring SRB/DLSW/RSRB/etc. bridging, rather than the actual routing protocols. I would attempt to suggest a path that one may take (books etc.) while preparing for this test. This will apply mostly to CCNP/DP's one with experience (NP/DP level). Read : 1. Internetworking TEch. overview (CCO) this is an absolute must, however not many who have passed the test seem to refer to this. It certainly has no commands kinda info, but packet types, frame types, layers etc. are plentiful, and these are tested. 2. Caslow : I have mixed responses about caslow, no doubt it is a very good book, no doubt I couldnt have studied some of the topics without it, no doubt that it has a wealth of concentrated info, however one can bypass it. It is replaceable. 3. Read chapter on ATM LANE from LAN switching book by Kennedy Clark (Cisco Press). Its the best explanation one can get. 4. If a CCNP, read all the 4 books, read DLSW + RSRB + SRB papers from CCO. 5. Know the boot sequence the boot register in out. 6. Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper 7. Dennis Laganiere's RIF examples (good examples) 8. CCO Blue print(probably the most imp. ), I used to go back and forth forming my own Q's about a particular topic. One can replace Caslow (for written, its an absolute must for LAB) by referring to all the above mentioned material. I would recommend taking Written almost immediately after CCNP, while the material is still fresh. And lastly, the most important is BOSON tests, especially 2 3, test 3 has now about 400Q's and that really tests most of the stuff. Experience with actual hardware is important, however I would think that Cisco doesnt rely on actual experience with hardware for this test atleast (NP/DP tests albeit do rely on experience) I would like to thank everyone on this group. now enroute to LAB, and also being part of the exclusive LAB study group (on groupstudy, where else :) Nick Shah Network Engr. Connect Internet Solutions Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28623t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
In hindsight, albeit, how was the CCIE prep (QUE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28629t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
Sorry, missed the earlier one.. btw, how was the CCIE prep guide (QUE) and the Network Learning Guide. I am assuming that Network learning are the CCBOOTCAMP guys (correct me if I am wrong). Nick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28630t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]
Congrat Shah... All the best for the lab. Donny From: Shah Nick Reply-To: Shah Nick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614] Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:00:33 -0500 I just passed my qualification test with an 83. It was not an easy test, considering the topics covered. However, I must admit that nothing on the test was beyond the blue print (from CCO). I must admit that being a CCNP is definitely an advantage when one goes for this test, the coverage is different, since more concentration is on theoritical topics, desktop protocols of course token ring SRB/DLSW/RSRB/etc. bridging, rather than the actual routing protocols. I would attempt to suggest a path that one may take (books etc.) while preparing for this test. This will apply mostly to CCNP/DP's one with experience (NP/DP level). Read : 1. Internetworking TEch. overview (CCO) this is an absolute must, however not many who have passed the test seem to refer to this. It certainly has no commands kinda info, but packet types, frame types, layers etc. are plentiful, and these are tested. 2. Caslow : I have mixed responses about caslow, no doubt it is a very good book, no doubt I couldnt have studied some of the topics without it, no doubt that it has a wealth of concentrated info, however one can bypass it. It is replaceable. 3. Read chapter on ATM LANE from LAN switching book by Kennedy Clark (Cisco Press). Its the best explanation one can get. 4. If a CCNP, read all the 4 books, read DLSW + RSRB + SRB papers from CCO. 5. Know the boot sequence the boot register in out. 6. Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper 7. Dennis Laganiere's RIF examples (good examples) 8. CCO Blue print(probably the most imp. ), I used to go back and forth forming my own Q's about a particular topic. One can replace Caslow (for written, its an absolute must for LAB) by referring to all the above mentioned material. I would recommend taking Written almost immediately after CCNP, while the material is still fresh. And lastly, the most important is BOSON tests, especially 2 3, test 3 has now about 400Q's and that really tests most of the stuff. Experience with actual hardware is important, however I would think that Cisco doesnt rely on actual experience with hardware for this test atleast (NP/DP tests albeit do rely on experience) I would like to thank everyone on this group. now enroute to LAB, and also being part of the exclusive LAB study group (on groupstudy, where else :) Nick Shah Network Engr. Connect Internet Solutions _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28649t=28614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written - Thanx [7:27194]
Congrats Kaushik! Good luck on the lab D -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- kaushik khakhar wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Group, I passed my CCIE Written today. 74 %. (ofcourse, first attempt!) I referred the material mentioned below : 1. TCP/IP - Vol 2 - Jeff Doyle For BGP, and IP NAT - Excellent book 2. CCIE Study Guide - Todd Lammle, John Swartz - For all topics - I would recomend a strong buy for this one. Be careful with some print mistakes! 3. Boson Test 1,2,3 4. TCP/IP - Volume I 5. Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - By Caslow - Refer to Dialup/ISDN/FR/OSPF configurations well. For all of members on the group who are looking forward to this exam one input I would like to give - Get the concept right for each protocol. Well, its my last day before vacation. Six weeks with old friends and dear ones in family! I must not end, before leaving my sincere thanks to all on this group who participate here with true sense of knowledge dissemination. Regards, Kaushik Khakhar A Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27282t=27194 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written - Thanx [7:27194]
Group, I passed my CCIE Written today. 74 %. (ofcourse, first attempt!) I referred the material mentioned below : 1. TCP/IP - Vol 2 - Jeff Doyle For BGP, and IP NAT - Excellent book 2. CCIE Study Guide - Todd Lammle, John Swartz - For all topics - I would recomend a strong buy for this one. Be careful with some print mistakes! 3. Boson Test 1,2,3 4. TCP/IP - Volume I 5. Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - By Caslow - Refer to Dialup/ISDN/FR/OSPF configurations well. For all of members on the group who are looking forward to this exam one input I would like to give - Get the concept right for each protocol. Well, its my last day before vacation. Six weeks with old friends and dear ones in family! I must not end, before leaving my sincere thanks to all on this group who participate here with true sense of knowledge dissemination. Regards, Kaushik Khakhar A Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27194t=27194 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
Without looking at CCO where I found it the first time, I think subsequent lab reattempts must be made every 12 months for the written to remain valid. After 3 years, if the lab has still not been passed, another written test is required. I would verify on CCO though. Pat -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] The most recent info I have is that the lab must be completed 18 months from when you take the written. I don't know if you get another 18 months when you attempt the lab, maybe someone else has an answer on that one. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Mirza, Timur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] do u have to recertify on the written after 3 yrs? i passed the written in 1/2000 since then, i've attempted the lab 4x...i'm going to attempt the lab as many times as i can before the written recertification (in 1/2003), after that, sad to say but i'm planning to give up...it just ain't worth it -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] My logic has always been, if someone can afford to take any cert exam 8 times, and doesn't mind losing the money, then odds are they're financially well-off enough that they can just retire now and get it over with. Now that the written costs $300 US, taking the written 8 times would cost $2400, and taking the lab eight times would cost over 9 grand. That's a lot of beer money to go donating to Cisco... Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Bullock, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it on the first time. Been a few months, and still have not scheduled the daunting lab though. jason -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27136t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26862t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
I used Test #2. -Original Message- From: Nick Lesewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] You said you used one of the bosons and it was great... Which one was it, 1,2 or 3? From: Logan, Harold Reply-To: Logan, Harold To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:40:12 -0500 Ok this is a little long, but I figure by writing this now I can save the trouble of answering the dozens of What books did you read and What software did you use questions. If you've already passed the written, or if you don't care what I did to pass, then hit delete. Took the CCIE Written yesterday... not necessarily because I felt I was ready for it, but more because I was sick of studying for it. All in all it was a challenging exam... I needed a 70 to pass, and I got a 77. I was kinda hoping to score in the high 80's at least, but a pass is a pass right? As another netacad instructor once pointed out to me, When you go to the doctor's office, you see his diploma on the wall... but you don't see his GPA anywhere do you? As for my prep work... I used Sybex's CCIE book by Todd Lammle and John Swartz as a basis for my studying, and cross-referenced with Caslow, Giles, and the CCIE professional development books when necessary. The Sybex CCIE book has taken flack on these lists in the past, and I will agree with other posters: there are several errors in the book, especially in some of the sample questions. Historically, Sybex has been very good about posting errata in their books on their web page... I didn't check for this book though, partially because I knew any errors would come up in my cross-referencing, and partially out of laziness =) I consider the Lammle/Swartz book a worthy investment though; a month ago I had practically 0 experience or knowledge of reading and interpretting RIF's or working with multicast protocols. One of the down sides of some of the more detailed books out there is that they contain so much information that a subject you know nothing about can be intimidating. For example, I THOUGHT I knew ethernet until I read the ethernet chapter in Giles' book. Reading a book like his to learn about something you know little about is painful at best, and fruitless at worst. The Sybex book does an excellent job of explaining the underlying concepts in english, giving you a foundation to build on. I also bought one of the Boson CCIE tests yesterday and went through it for a few hours before I took the test. Let me say, that was the second best $40 dollars I've spent on this test. (The best $40 was the bar tab I racked up last night) The questions in the Boson test were very challenging, many of them more challenging than the Written. I'm pretty sure, I wouldn't have passed without it. I had one other resource backing me up, I teach the Cisco Networking Academy classes. Believe it or not, knowing the CCNA netacad curriculum forwards and backwards contributed greatly to my success on the exam. Anyways, enough babbling... after taking a short break I need to start getting ready for the lab. I don't post much on here (usually because the few questions I'm qualified to answer, get answered six times before I can hit the Reply button), but I want to thank everyone on the list; I've learned a lot from your questions and your answers. Cheers, Hal - CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26864t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it on the first time. Been a few months, and still have not scheduled the daunting lab though. jason -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26868t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
My logic has always been, if someone can afford to take any cert exam 8 times, and doesn't mind losing the money, then odds are they're financially well-off enough that they can just retire now and get it over with. Now that the written costs $300 US, taking the written 8 times would cost $2400, and taking the lab eight times would cost over 9 grand. That's a lot of beer money to go donating to Cisco... Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Bullock, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it on the first time. Been a few months, and still have not scheduled the daunting lab though. jason -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26883t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
do u have to recertify on the written after 3 yrs? i passed the written in 1/2000 since then, i've attempted the lab 4x...i'm going to attempt the lab as many times as i can before the written recertification (in 1/2003), after that, sad to say but i'm planning to give up...it just ain't worth it -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] My logic has always been, if someone can afford to take any cert exam 8 times, and doesn't mind losing the money, then odds are they're financially well-off enough that they can just retire now and get it over with. Now that the written costs $300 US, taking the written 8 times would cost $2400, and taking the lab eight times would cost over 9 grand. That's a lot of beer money to go donating to Cisco... Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Bullock, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it on the first time. Been a few months, and still have not scheduled the daunting lab though. jason -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26889t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
The most recent info I have is that the lab must be completed 18 months from when you take the written. I don't know if you get another 18 months when you attempt the lab, maybe someone else has an answer on that one. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Mirza, Timur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] do u have to recertify on the written after 3 yrs? i passed the written in 1/2000 since then, i've attempted the lab 4x...i'm going to attempt the lab as many times as i can before the written recertification (in 1/2003), after that, sad to say but i'm planning to give up...it just ain't worth it -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] My logic has always been, if someone can afford to take any cert exam 8 times, and doesn't mind losing the money, then odds are they're financially well-off enough that they can just retire now and get it over with. Now that the written costs $300 US, taking the written 8 times would cost $2400, and taking the lab eight times would cost over 9 grand. That's a lot of beer money to go donating to Cisco... Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Bullock, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] True, the written exam is tough, but really all about understanding rif and dlsw technologies. From there it comes down to memorizing the questions and taking the test a few times. I know guys that took that thing over 8 times in a row, just to pass it. I just got lucky and happened to pass it on the first time. Been a few months, and still have not scheduled the daunting lab though. jason -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] I would rate the IE written as much more difficult than the CCNP Exams, and slightly more difficult than the CID exam. Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Henk Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26932t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26765t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
congrats... -Original Message- From: Tim Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765] Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26766t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
Congrats Tim! I'm studying for the written now...but I'm in no big hurry. Got this thing about doing it right, vice doing it twice! Stefan Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26771t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
Me too Stefan, I am planning on taking it in December, but if the boson god's tell me to wait, I am waiting! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan Dozier Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765] Congrats Tim! I'm studying for the written now...but I'm in no big hurry. Got this thing about doing it right, vice doing it twice! Stefan Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26775t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
Congrats! The easy part is over... now you can focus on the real challenge... -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- Tim Booth wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26785t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
Me too, I'll take the written exam in next few month. But I'm in a difficult situation. If you have any softcopy, send me pls. - Original Message - From: William Gragido To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:49 AM Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765] Me too Stefan, I am planning on taking it in December, but if the boson god's tell me to wait, I am waiting! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan Dozier Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765] Congrats Tim! I'm studying for the written now...but I'm in no big hurry. Got this thing about doing it right, vice doing it twice! Stefan Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26784t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
Tnx for the feedback. Did you do CCNP / CCDP as well? If so how do these exams compare to the Written CCIE? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26634t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
Would like to make some comments: I am CCNP. I tried to review all the CCNP books, token ring paper, cross reference to TCP/IP Jeff's book and Carlow's book. But i got 65 point (failed) in the first try. I did Boston Test #1,2 and 3. I re-took the exam in two weeks time. I got 88! Mostly because of the test. Without it, i m sure i can't pass the test. The questions are a bit in-different. It seems any one choice can be the answer. P.S : I hv no relation with Boston. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26670t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
Ok this is a little long, but I figure by writing this now I can save the trouble of answering the dozens of What books did you read and What software did you use questions. If you've already passed the written, or if you don't care what I did to pass, then hit delete. Took the CCIE Written yesterday... not necessarily because I felt I was ready for it, but more because I was sick of studying for it. All in all it was a challenging exam... I needed a 70 to pass, and I got a 77. I was kinda hoping to score in the high 80's at least, but a pass is a pass right? As another netacad instructor once pointed out to me, When you go to the doctor's office, you see his diploma on the wall... but you don't see his GPA anywhere do you? As for my prep work... I used Sybex's CCIE book by Todd Lammle and John Swartz as a basis for my studying, and cross-referenced with Caslow, Giles, and the CCIE professional development books when necessary. The Sybex CCIE book has taken flack on these lists in the past, and I will agree with other posters: there are several errors in the book, especially in some of the sample questions. Historically, Sybex has been very good about posting errata in their books on their web page... I didn't check for this book though, partially because I knew any errors would come up in my cross-referencing, and partially out of laziness =) I consider the Lammle/Swartz book a worthy investment though; a month ago I had practically 0 experience or knowledge of reading and interpretting RIF's or working with multicast protocols. One of the down sides of some of the more detailed books out there is that they contain so much information that a subject you know nothing about can be intimidating. For example, I THOUGHT I knew ethernet until I read the ethernet chapter in Giles' book. Reading a book like his to learn about something you know little about is painful at best, and fruitless at worst. The Sybex book does an excellent job of explaining the underlying concepts in english, giving you a foundation to build on. I also bought one of the Boson CCIE tests yesterday and went through it for a few hours before I took the test. Let me say, that was the second best $40 dollars I've spent on this test. (The best $40 was the bar tab I racked up last night) The questions in the Boson test were very challenging, many of them more challenging than the Written. I'm pretty sure, I wouldn't have passed without it. I had one other resource backing me up, I teach the Cisco Networking Academy classes. Believe it or not, knowing the CCNA netacad curriculum forwards and backwards contributed greatly to my success on the exam. Anyways, enough babbling... after taking a short break I need to start getting ready for the lab. I don't post much on here (usually because the few questions I'm qualified to answer, get answered six times before I can hit the Reply button), but I want to thank everyone on the list; I've learned a lot from your questions and your answers. Cheers, Hal - CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26584t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
You said you used one of the bosons and it was great... Which one was it, 1,2 or 3? From: Logan, Harold Reply-To: Logan, Harold To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:40:12 -0500 Ok this is a little long, but I figure by writing this now I can save the trouble of answering the dozens of What books did you read and What software did you use questions. If you've already passed the written, or if you don't care what I did to pass, then hit delete. Took the CCIE Written yesterday... not necessarily because I felt I was ready for it, but more because I was sick of studying for it. All in all it was a challenging exam... I needed a 70 to pass, and I got a 77. I was kinda hoping to score in the high 80's at least, but a pass is a pass right? As another netacad instructor once pointed out to me, When you go to the doctor's office, you see his diploma on the wall... but you don't see his GPA anywhere do you? As for my prep work... I used Sybex's CCIE book by Todd Lammle and John Swartz as a basis for my studying, and cross-referenced with Caslow, Giles, and the CCIE professional development books when necessary. The Sybex CCIE book has taken flack on these lists in the past, and I will agree with other posters: there are several errors in the book, especially in some of the sample questions. Historically, Sybex has been very good about posting errata in their books on their web page... I didn't check for this book though, partially because I knew any errors would come up in my cross-referencing, and partially out of laziness =) I consider the Lammle/Swartz book a worthy investment though; a month ago I had practically 0 experience or knowledge of reading and interpretting RIF's or working with multicast protocols. One of the down sides of some of the more detailed books out there is that they contain so much information that a subject you know nothing about can be intimidating. For example, I THOUGHT I knew ethernet until I read the ethernet chapter in Giles' book. Reading a book like his to learn about something you know little about is painful at best, and fruitless at worst. The Sybex book does an excellent job of explaining the underlying concepts in english, giving you a foundation to build on. I also bought one of the Boson CCIE tests yesterday and went through it for a few hours before I took the test. Let me say, that was the second best $40 dollars I've spent on this test. (The best $40 was the bar tab I racked up last night) The questions in the Boson test were very challenging, many of them more challenging than the Written. I'm pretty sure, I wouldn't have passed without it. I had one other resource backing me up, I teach the Cisco Networking Academy classes. Believe it or not, knowing the CCNA netacad curriculum forwards and backwards contributed greatly to my success on the exam. Anyways, enough babbling... after taking a short break I need to start getting ready for the lab. I don't post much on here (usually because the few questions I'm qualified to answer, get answered six times before I can hit the Reply button), but I want to thank everyone on the list; I've learned a lot from your questions and your answers. Cheers, Hal - CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26587t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584]
And EXAM CRAM 350-001 is good Joselito Nick Lesewski wrote: You said you used one of the bosons and it was great... Which one was it, 1,2 or 3? From: Logan, Harold Reply-To: Logan, Harold To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written, life is good [7:26584] Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:40:12 -0500 Ok this is a little long, but I figure by writing this now I can save the trouble of answering the dozens of What books did you read and What software did you use questions. If you've already passed the written, or if you don't care what I did to pass, then hit delete. Took the CCIE Written yesterday... not necessarily because I felt I was ready for it, but more because I was sick of studying for it. All in all it was a challenging exam... I needed a 70 to pass, and I got a 77. I was kinda hoping to score in the high 80's at least, but a pass is a pass right? As another netacad instructor once pointed out to me, When you go to the doctor's office, you see his diploma on the wall... but you don't see his GPA anywhere do you? As for my prep work... I used Sybex's CCIE book by Todd Lammle and John Swartz as a basis for my studying, and cross-referenced with Caslow, Giles, and the CCIE professional development books when necessary. The Sybex CCIE book has taken flack on these lists in the past, and I will agree with other posters: there are several errors in the book, especially in some of the sample questions. Historically, Sybex has been very good about posting errata in their books on their web page... I didn't check for this book though, partially because I knew any errors would come up in my cross-referencing, and partially out of laziness =) I consider the Lammle/Swartz book a worthy investment though; a month ago I had practically 0 experience or knowledge of reading and interpretting RIF's or working with multicast protocols. One of the down sides of some of the more detailed books out there is that they contain so much information that a subject you know nothing about can be intimidating. For example, I THOUGHT I knew ethernet until I read the ethernet chapter in Giles' book. Reading a book like his to learn about something you know little about is painful at best, and fruitless at worst. The Sybex book does an excellent job of explaining the underlying concepts in english, giving you a foundation to build on. I also bought one of the Boson CCIE tests yesterday and went through it for a few hours before I took the test. Let me say, that was the second best $40 dollars I've spent on this test. (The best $40 was the bar tab I racked up last night) The questions in the Boson test were very challenging, many of them more challenging than the Written. I'm pretty sure, I wouldn't have passed without it. I had one other resource backing me up, I teach the Cisco Networking Academy classes. Believe it or not, knowing the CCNA netacad curriculum forwards and backwards contributed greatly to my success on the exam. Anyways, enough babbling... after taking a short break I need to start getting ready for the lab. I don't post much on here (usually because the few questions I'm qualified to answer, get answered six times before I can hit the Reply button), but I want to thank everyone on the list; I've learned a lot from your questions and your answers. Cheers, Hal - CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26597t=26584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:20796]
Congrats as well! I don't know that I'd call passing the written 50% there though... maybe 25% wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In a message dated 9/22/01 8:50:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: 9/22/01 8:50:09 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sundar Palaniappan) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sundar Palaniappan) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I passed CCIE written on 9/17 with a score of 74. Thanks to all the members of this technical newsgroup and groupstudy.com for all the help. I used the following to prepare: Bruce Calsow CCIE Exam Lou Rossi's TR White Paper Boson Exams. In addition, my experience as a CSE 2 in a TAC helped me. The questions were from all around and there wasn't too much emphasis on any one topic. Now on to the real test, Lab. I would appreciate input from fellow members as to where to start for the Lab. I am going to read the Jeff Doyle Halabi book. I am also thinking of setting up a Home Lab. Can fellow members advise what equipment would I need for an ideal Lab. Good Luck to all out there! Cheers, Sundar Palaniappan Sundar, CONGRATS!!You are 50% there! I have, as my home lab, the following setup: 3 2501's 1 2514 (2 ETH interfaces) 4 4500's with the following modules; ISDN, 2) 4-port Serial, 2-port 1-port Ethernet, 2) 1-port Token Ring, and I am budgeting for an ATM module for 2 of my 4500's. Emutel ISDN Emulator. **It i my understanding that the following should be mandatory for the lab: *OSPF *Frame Relay *BGP Redistribution *Access Lists *ISDN / Dial **These other subjects are secondary *ATM *IPSec *VOIP *DLSw+ *IPX *IGRP *EIGRP *RIP *Route maps *Distribute Lists *Filter Lists *SRB/Transparent bidging GOOD LUCK! and I hope this gives you a good study guideline! Rob H. NP, DP IE Written, blah, blah, blah. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20906t=20796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:20796]
Dennis, I have to agree with that. A good example is my own experience: I work for a large telco and see many variations of network platforms every day. I recently went to the Networkers and was blown away by all the miniscule concepts that I just DON'T SEE and DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT! A very humbling experience, I must admit. As a matter of fact, one of the proctors gave this piece of advice: Even the config aspects that one would consider easy (access lists, IPX, interface setups, etc.) will really grab you when you are dealing with all the volume and time constraints of the lab itself. Personally, I try to drill on these at least 15-30 minutes a day just to stay fresh. My .02c, Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20917t=20796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:20796]
CONGRATS!! Sundar Palaniappan I passed CCIE written on 9/17 with a score of 74. Thanks to all the members of this technical newsgroup and groupstudy.com for all the help. I used the following to prepare: Bruce Calsow CCIE Exam Lou Rossi's TR White Paper Boson Exams. In addition, my experience as a CSE 2 in a TAC helped me. The questions were from all around and there wasn't too much emphasis on any one topic. Now on to the real test, Lab. I would appreciate input from fellow members as to where to start for the Lab. I am going to read the Jeff Doyle Halabi book. I am also thinking of setting up a Home Lab. Can fellow members advise what equipment would I need for an ideal Lab. Good Luck to all out there! Cheers, Sundar Palaniappan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20817t=20796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written [7:20796]
I passed CCIE written on 9/17 with a score of 74. Thanks to all the members of this technical newsgroup and groupstudy.com for all the help. I used the following to prepare: Bruce Calsow CCIE Exam Lou Rossi's TR White Paper Boson Exams. In addition, my experience as a CSE 2 in a TAC helped me. The questions were from all around and there wasn't too much emphasis on any one topic. Now on to the real test, Lab. I would appreciate input from fellow members as to where to start for the Lab. I am going to read the Jeff Doyle Halabi book. I am also thinking of setting up a Home Lab. Can fellow members advise what equipment would I need for an ideal Lab. Good Luck to all out there! Cheers, Sundar Palaniappan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20796t=20796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written [7:20796]
In a message dated 9/22/01 8:50:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Passed CCIE Written [7:20796] Date: 9/22/01 8:50:09 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sundar Palaniappan) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sundar Palaniappan) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I passed CCIE written on 9/17 with a score of 74. Thanks to all the members of this technical newsgroup and groupstudy.com for all the help. I used the following to prepare: Bruce Calsow CCIE Exam Lou Rossi's TR White Paper Boson Exams. In addition, my experience as a CSE 2 in a TAC helped me. The questions were from all around and there wasn't too much emphasis on any one topic. Now on to the real test, Lab. I would appreciate input from fellow members as to where to start for the Lab. I am going to read the Jeff Doyle Halabi book. I am also thinking of setting up a Home Lab. Can fellow members advise what equipment would I need for an ideal Lab. Good Luck to all out there! Cheers, Sundar Palaniappan Sundar, CONGRATS!!You are 50% there! I have, as my home lab, the following setup: 3 2501's 1 2514 (2 ETH interfaces) 4 4500's with the following modules; ISDN, 2) 4-port Serial, 2-port 1-port Ethernet, 2) 1-port Token Ring, and I am budgeting for an ATM module for 2 of my 4500's. Emutel ISDN Emulator. **It i my understanding that the following should be mandatory for the lab: *OSPF *Frame Relay *BGP Redistribution *Access Lists *ISDN / Dial **These other subjects are secondary *ATM *IPSec *VOIP *DLSw+ *IPX *IGRP *EIGRP *RIP *Route maps *Distribute Lists *Filter Lists *SRB/Transparent bidging GOOD LUCK! and I hope this gives you a good study guideline! Rob H. NP, DP IE Written, blah, blah, blah. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20813t=20796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Congratulations!!! Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE CCIE Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor) wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Congrats ! So what you got an 82% !!! U passed ! I passed w/ 76% :)) Should I feel bad I received a 76 ?? Good luck on the lab -Original Message- From: Jaspreet Bhatia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737] I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that .but I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start preparing for the real thing .. Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20189t=14737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Oliver, I could also finally login to the online scheduling for the lab and got a date of April 9th .Can't believe that I have to wait 8 months just to appear for the lab Jaspreet Oliver Nadalin wrote: Finally was able to login to CCIE Online scheduling - not sure if this had anything to do with it - but i went to the galton website (for your cisco career cert. status) and completed the cisco certification agreement v7.0. I doubt that had anything to do with itanyways the facility does work - the earliest in San Jose is in Aprilhaven't scheduled yet though :) Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hey Oliver, There probably is a Phone no which you can call to schedule the lab . I don't know but the online scheduling thing is taking too long to recognize your CCIE written scores . Jaspreet Does anyone know if we can call a no. to schedule the lab Oliver Nadalin wrote: Congrats!!! - i too got an 82%well done. Gee we're smart :) Hey, let me know when you can log into the online scheduling facility for the lab - it's been 5 days and i'm still waiting to get a log in OSN Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that .but I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start preparing for the real thing .. Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15036t=14737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Hey Man - you'll probably need that time!!...i know i will.
Good luck!!!
BTW - it's funny isn't it - but we see alot of posts saying ' i passed the
written' but hardly any that say 'i passed the lab' - maybe we can change
things?!!!
OSN
Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Oliver,
I could also finally login to the online scheduling for
the
lab and got
a date of April 9th .Can't believe that I have to wait 8 months just to
appear for the
lab
Jaspreet
Oliver Nadalin wrote:
Finally was able to login to CCIE Online scheduling - not sure if this
had
anything to do with it - but i went to the galton website (for your
cisco
career cert. status) and completed the cisco certification agreement
v7.0.
I
doubt that had anything to do with itanyways the facility does
work -
the earliest in San Jose is in Aprilhaven't scheduled yet though :)
Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hey Oliver,
There probably is a Phone no which you can
call
to schedule
the lab . I don't know but the online scheduling thing is taking too
long
to
recognize
your CCIE written scores .
Jaspreet
Does anyone know if we can call a no. to schedule the lab
Oliver Nadalin wrote:
Congrats!!! - i too got an 82%well done. Gee we're smart :)
Hey, let me know when you can log into the online scheduling
facility
for
the lab - it's been 5 days and i'm still waiting to get a log in
OSN
Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that
.but
I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start
preparing for the real thing ..
Jaspreet
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Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Finally was able to login to CCIE Online scheduling - not sure if this had anything to do with it - but i went to the galton website (for your cisco career cert. status) and completed the cisco certification agreement v7.0. I doubt that had anything to do with itanyways the facility does work - the earliest in San Jose is in Aprilhaven't scheduled yet though :) Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hey Oliver, There probably is a Phone no which you can call to schedule the lab . I don't know but the online scheduling thing is taking too long to recognize your CCIE written scores . Jaspreet Does anyone know if we can call a no. to schedule the lab Oliver Nadalin wrote: Congrats!!! - i too got an 82%well done. Gee we're smart :) Hey, let me know when you can log into the online scheduling facility for the lab - it's been 5 days and i'm still waiting to get a log in OSN Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that .but I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start preparing for the real thing .. Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14940t=14737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Hey Oliver, There probably is a Phone no which you can call to schedule the lab . I don't know but the online scheduling thing is taking too long to recognize your CCIE written scores . Jaspreet Does anyone know if we can call a no. to schedule the lab Oliver Nadalin wrote: Congrats!!! - i too got an 82%well done. Gee we're smart :) Hey, let me know when you can log into the online scheduling facility for the lab - it's been 5 days and i'm still waiting to get a log in OSN Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that .but I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start preparing for the real thing .. Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14853t=14737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written with 82% [7:14737]
Congrats!!! - i too got an 82%well done. Gee we're smart :) Hey, let me know when you can log into the online scheduling facility for the lab - it's been 5 days and i'm still waiting to get a log in OSN Jaspreet Bhatia wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I passed CCIE Written today with 82 % .Not that I am proud of that .but I think it is a big relief that it is behind me and I can start preparing for the real thing .. Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14850t=14737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14503]
Carroll, I got CCNP and CCDP but I am pretty new to UNIX system. I want to lean UNIX with a focus on networking part for the following reasons. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Now, what flavour of UNIX do you recommend to learn as a start? I suppose there is a flavour which contains many commands that also work on other systems, and also a flavour that is most commonly used. Thank you in advance, Marc At 07:20 PM 7/31/01 -0400, Jonathan Hays wrote: No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run headless, most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Ah, good point. Now why would it not care which OS? The bios. Crapola bios which give you very little flexibility (enter most commercial packaged PCs with their crap bios) have this problem. If you get a good Asus Motherboard (actually a LOT of vendors give you this flexibility), their bios have this option called Halt On Error: All Error Change it to No Errors Your PC will easy POST without the need for a keyboard after this change. For FreeBSD, you probably want to modify the kernel to always force on the keyboard. You can also recompile the kernel to enable a serial console so it works like the bad-boy Unix Workstations. (need a null serial modem cable and you are ready to rock and console :) ) Reason why you want FreeBSD to always force on the keyboard. If you do not plug in the keyboard, let the box boot, and then plug the keyboard back in, you cannot type anything in. With always force on, it will work afterwards. Of course, this is only the case if you really messed up the box (kernel panic, ip misconfiguration, firewall rules that kick you off) and your boss forgot to buy that access console server. Linux also has a serial console capability IIRC. If anyone here learns basic FreeBSD on their own and needs help for doing some of these more advanced features, I will easily lend a hand. -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14503t=14503 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14525]
At 03:16 PM 8/1/01 +, data com wrote: Carroll, I got CCNP and CCDP but I am pretty new to UNIX system. I want to lean UNIX with a focus on networking part for the following reasons. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Now, what flavour of UNIX do you recommend to learn as a start? I suppose there is a flavour which contains many commands that also work on other systems, and also a flavour that is most commonly used. Thank you in advance, Marc I suggest FreeBSD, but any Unix can be leveraged as a basic learning tool to learn other Unices. If you really understand the concepts and theory of how unix systems are designed, you can easily adopt other unices. The problem with the universal flavor is that all unices for the most part have their roots within two types of unix systems. BSD and SysV. Most commercial unices will be very SysVish. This means their init scripts are usually different, and the layout is going to be different than a BSD like machine. The freeware OSes tend to be very BSDish. Unfortunately, this puts you in a bind. There really is no one unix to rule them all. :( Even if you do pick a BSDish like userland like FreeBSD, some binaries are different than say Redhad Linux. Things like route print would not work in FreeBSD, but netstat -rn would work in FreeBSD and in Solaris x86! In BSDish (and open source) terms, Linux distributions are probably the most used. However, they seem to do a lot of nasty non-standard things like Microsoft. Namely, their GNU route and GNU netstat are drastically different. Plus, their /bin/sh is NOT shell script but rather BASH! ARGH! I feel FreeBSD is far cleaner. In SysV (and commercial) terms, Solaris has definitely become a king. If you want to get good with SPARC hardware, buy a Sun Blade. (not suggested unless you REALLY want to be a Sun head) If you just want to learn Solaris, you are in luck as Solaris x86 is available for free I believe. (I bought my copy for ~$80bucks?). Solaris x86 will most definitely be less forgiving on the hardware support. I feel any BSD, Linux, or Solaris are great starters. Just pick one, and get really good with it. The others will be easily acquired if you run into them. Learn any of them well enough, and you can easily do the two things you mentioned. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14525t=14525 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14539]
Carroll, Thank you so much for the detailed reply. Would you recommend any books? (I've read Using UNIX -QUE-. I have installed and played with FreeBSD a little bit. I have no exposure to production UNIX environment.) Thanks, Marc From: Carroll Kong To: data com CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14428] Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:03:42 -0500 At 03:16 PM 8/1/01 +, data com wrote: Carroll, I got CCNP and CCDP but I am pretty new to UNIX system. I want to lean UNIX with a focus on networking part for the following reasons. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Now, what flavour of UNIX do you recommend to learn as a start? I suppose there is a flavour which contains many commands that also work on other systems, and also a flavour that is most commonly used. Thank you in advance, Marc I suggest FreeBSD, but any Unix can be leveraged as a basic learning tool to learn other Unices. If you really understand the concepts and theory of how unix systems are designed, you can easily adopt other unices. The problem with the universal flavor is that all unices for the most part have their roots within two types of unix systems. BSD and SysV. Most commercial unices will be very SysVish. This means their init scripts are usually different, and the layout is going to be different than a BSD like machine. The freeware OSes tend to be very BSDish. Unfortunately, this puts you in a bind. There really is no one unix to rule them all. :( Even if you do pick a BSDish like userland like FreeBSD, some binaries are different than say Redhad Linux. Things like route print would not work in FreeBSD, but netstat -rn would work in FreeBSD and in Solaris x86! In BSDish (and open source) terms, Linux distributions are probably the most used. However, they seem to do a lot of nasty non-standard things like Microsoft. Namely, their GNU route and GNU netstat are drastically different. Plus, their /bin/sh is NOT shell script but rather BASH! ARGH! I feel FreeBSD is far cleaner. In SysV (and commercial) terms, Solaris has definitely become a king. If you want to get good with SPARC hardware, buy a Sun Blade. (not suggested unless you REALLY want to be a Sun head) If you just want to learn Solaris, you are in luck as Solaris x86 is available for free I believe. (I bought my copy for ~$80bucks?). Solaris x86 will most definitely be less forgiving on the hardware support. I feel any BSD, Linux, or Solaris are great starters. Just pick one, and get really good with it. The others will be easily acquired if you run into them. Learn any of them well enough, and you can easily do the two things you mentioned. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Good luck! -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14539t=14539 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14407]
I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the commands. Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... Symon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Kong Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14288] At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home (win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks for your time! Tim Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14407t=14407 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14413]
No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run headless, most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Symon Thurlow wrote: I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the commands. Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... Symon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Kong Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14288] At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home (win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks for your time! Tim Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14413t=14413 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14415]
Disable it in the bios. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14413] No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run headless, most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Symon Thurlow wrote: I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the commands. Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... Symon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Kong Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14288] At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home (win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks for your time! Tim Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14415t=14415 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14428]
At 07:20 PM 7/31/01 -0400, Jonathan Hays wrote: No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run headless, most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Ah, good point. Now why would it not care which OS? The bios. Crapola bios which give you very little flexibility (enter most commercial packaged PCs with their crap bios) have this problem. If you get a good Asus Motherboard (actually a LOT of vendors give you this flexibility), their bios have this option called Halt On Error: All Error Change it to No Errors Your PC will easy POST without the need for a keyboard after this change. For FreeBSD, you probably want to modify the kernel to always force on the keyboard. You can also recompile the kernel to enable a serial console so it works like the bad-boy Unix Workstations. (need a null serial modem cable and you are ready to rock and console :) ) Reason why you want FreeBSD to always force on the keyboard. If you do not plug in the keyboard, let the box boot, and then plug the keyboard back in, you cannot type anything in. With always force on, it will work afterwards. Of course, this is only the case if you really messed up the box (kernel panic, ip misconfiguration, firewall rules that kick you off) and your boss forgot to buy that access console server. Linux also has a serial console capability IIRC. If anyone here learns basic FreeBSD on their own and needs help for doing some of these more advanced features, I will easily lend a hand. -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14428t=14428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14284]
Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home (win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks for your time! Tim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14284t=14284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14288]
At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home (win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks for your time! Tim Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14288t=14288 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
John, As you start preparing for the Lab exam , do let let me know a few things 1) What date did you get for the lab ? In other words ,what is the current waiting list ? 2) What books/sites will you be using ? 3) What kind of study schedule are you going to have? Some of my worst fears have been confirmed with latest changes to the CCIE program.I personally think that there is going to be a flood of CCIE's in the market in the next 1 year or so. And tell you what , the internetworking job market is not really going all that strong .So demand exceeds supply might soon become supply exceeds demand but maybe I am being overly pessimistic about this as usual.:-). Jaspreet John Neiberger wrote: Thanks for the congrats, I appreciate it. If I remember correctly, I finished up CCNP in March and CCDP in April. In hindsight, one month of studying would have been plenty to prepare for the written. It covers (potentially) more material than the CCNP/DP tests, but I don't think the questions were more difficult. To use an analogy, I feel that the CCNP/DP tests were a mile wide and an inch deep. The CCIE written is 1.5 miles wide and 2 inches deep, but I prepared as if it were going to be 2 miles wide and 100 yards deep. However, all of that preparation was not for naught. It will come in *very* handy in the lab, I'm sure. As far as taking the written before the CCNP/DP tests, I think you gain a lot of knowledge while studying for those exams and it's worth the time to finish those up first. I personally feel that it adds to the sense of accomplishment to tackle these in order, and the process itself may be worth more than the certs in the long run. If you focus on learning and don't focus on just the certifications, you'll fly through these with no problem. Good luck! John | Hi, | | First, way to go, sounds like you worked hard! You Deserve it. | | How much time did any of you take to study for the CCIE written after | passing the CCNP exams? | | Do you have any other advice for those of us going taking baby steps from | CCNP studies to the CCIE written? (My co-workers say I should just take the | written but the instant gratification of passing the CCNP exams keeps me | motivated!) | | I plan to finish my CCNP/DP before September and then take 2.5 months of | studying for the written I'll take in Mid-December. I hope it's good enough | to score at least over 80%, but wow, 90% is something to be really proud | about. Congrats again. | | - Ryan | | ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12413t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
John, Congratulations on your passing. Hope to join you in a couple of months. Jim John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was *so* worried about taking this test. I had been hearing from numerous people how hard it was so I did nothing but cram for the last two weeks. Even after that I still did not feel ready, knowing that there were going to be numerous questions on ATM, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, SRB, LANE, NAT, Policy Routing, Redistribution, etc. Well, the worrying was for nothing. I passed with a 92%! However, I think that's because I was overprepared for the specific questions I received. I know that each test pulls from a pool of 300 or so questions, but I think I got about 80 of the easy ones. Seriously, I thought that more in-depth knowledge was required to take the CCNP tests. For many of the topics I listed above, I didn't receive a single question! What gives?? With that said, some of the questions were difficult, but only because they were the sort that if you didn't already know it, it was tough to guess. The SRB, token ring, OSPF, BGP, and LANE questions were very basic. Anyone with a solid introduction to them and a good memory would be able to ace all of those topics. A few months ago I got a subscription to CertificationZone and I'm very glad I did. I found the real test to be much easier than their practice tests. If you get a subscription and can pass three or four of those exams, you're probably going to be disappointed in the difficulty of the real exam. But that's a good thing! That just means that you'll be very prepared. I may have just gotten lucky with the questions, though. I don't want to make it sound easy, it wasn't. The particular questions just weren't as difficult as I was planning for. I was expecting WWIII and got a minor border skirmish with a small third-world country. :-) I guess that's why they call this a qualification exam. The exceptionally super hard part is yet to come. I see that they've announced the new lab format and now I'm wondering if I should schedule the lab now and plan on taking the two-day version in March of 2002 or so, or should I wait until after Oct. 1st and possibly get the one-day version sooner? Hmm... food for thought. Thanks to all who have helped me so far! (Howard, Priscilla, Chuck, Pamela, Stogieman, Peter, and everyone else I'm forgetting at the moment) I'm now going to go eat dinner with my wife and then sleep for the rest of the weekend! Regards, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12420t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
I was *so* worried about taking this test. I had been hearing from numerous people how hard it was so I did nothing but cram for the last two weeks. Even after that I still did not feel ready, knowing that there were going to be numerous questions on ATM, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, SRB, LANE, NAT, Policy Routing, Redistribution, etc. Well, the worrying was for nothing. I passed with a 92%! However, I think that's because I was overprepared for the specific questions I received. I know that each test pulls from a pool of 300 or so questions, but I think I got about 80 of the easy ones. Seriously, I thought that more in-depth knowledge was required to take the CCNP tests. For many of the topics I listed above, I didn't receive a single question! What gives?? With that said, some of the questions were difficult, but only because they were the sort that if you didn't already know it, it was tough to guess. The SRB, token ring, OSPF, BGP, and LANE questions were very basic. Anyone with a solid introduction to them and a good memory would be able to ace all of those topics. A few months ago I got a subscription to CertificationZone and I'm very glad I did. I found the real test to be much easier than their practice tests. If you get a subscription and can pass three or four of those exams, you're probably going to be disappointed in the difficulty of the real exam. But that's a good thing! That just means that you'll be very prepared. I may have just gotten lucky with the questions, though. I don't want to make it sound easy, it wasn't. The particular questions just weren't as difficult as I was planning for. I was expecting WWIII and got a minor border skirmish with a small third-world country. :-) I guess that's why they call this a qualification exam. The exceptionally super hard part is yet to come. I see that they've announced the new lab format and now I'm wondering if I should schedule the lab now and plan on taking the two-day version in March of 2002 or so, or should I wait until after Oct. 1st and possibly get the one-day version sooner? Hmm... food for thought. Thanks to all who have helped me so far! (Howard, Priscilla, Chuck, Pamela, Stogieman, Peter, and everyone else I'm forgetting at the moment) I'm now going to go eat dinner with my wife and then sleep for the rest of the weekend! Regards, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12377t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
Hearty congrats, John... go have a few brew-ski's and relax (let your wife drive, of course :-) ...that's a great score, and you'll have your opportunity (just like the rest of us) to do your lab soon enough! -e- John Neiberger wrote: I was *so* worried about taking this test. I had been hearing from numerous people how hard it was so I did nothing but cram for the last two weeks. Even after that I still did not feel ready, knowing that there were going to be numerous questions on ATM, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, SRB, LANE, NAT, Policy Routing, Redistribution, etc. Well, the worrying was for nothing. I passed with a 92%! However, I think that's because I was overprepared for the specific questions I received. I know that each test pulls from a pool of 300 or so questions, but I think I got about 80 of the easy ones. Seriously, I thought that more in-depth knowledge was required to take the CCNP tests. For many of the topics I listed above, I didn't receive a single question! What gives?? With that said, some of the questions were difficult, but only because they were the sort that if you didn't already know it, it was tough to guess. The SRB, token ring, OSPF, BGP, and LANE questions were very basic. Anyone with a solid introduction to them and a good memory would be able to ace all of those topics. A few months ago I got a subscription to CertificationZone and I'm very glad I did. I found the real test to be much easier than their practice tests. If you get a subscription and can pass three or four of those exams, you're probably going to be disappointed in the difficulty of the real exam. But that's a good thing! That just means that you'll be very prepared. I may have just gotten lucky with the questions, though. I don't want to make it sound easy, it wasn't. The particular questions just weren't as difficult as I was planning for. I was expecting WWIII and got a minor border skirmish with a small third-world country. :-) I guess that's why they call this a qualification exam. The exceptionally super hard part is yet to come. I see that they've announced the new lab format and now I'm wondering if I should schedule the lab now and plan on taking the two-day version in March of 2002 or so, or should I wait until after Oct. 1st and possibly get the one-day version sooner? Hmm... food for thought. Thanks to all who have helped me so far! (Howard, Priscilla, Chuck, Pamela, Stogieman, Peter, and everyone else I'm forgetting at the moment) I'm now going to go eat dinner with my wife and then sleep for the rest of the weekend! Regards, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12392t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
John, Heartiest Conngratulations to you !! Wish you all the best for the Real Challenge.. Wish me luck too as I am taking the written in two weeks FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
John, I totally agree with you about more in-depth questions being asked on the CCNP exams. I also recently completed both (CCNP, CCIE written) and was surprised and disappointed at the lack of depth in the questions I was asked on the Written exam. I think if you read the intro/overview technology stuff on the cisco website you are well on your way to passing the written. John Neiberger wrote: I was *so* worried about taking this test. I had been hearing from numerous people how hard it was so I did nothing but cram for the last two weeks. Even after that I still did not feel ready, knowing that there were going to be numerous questions on ATM, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, SRB, LANE, NAT, Policy Routing, Redistribution, etc. Well, the worrying was for nothing. I passed with a 92%! However, I think that's because I was overprepared for the specific questions I received. I know that each test pulls from a pool of 300 or so questions, but I think I got about 80 of the easy ones. Seriously, I thought that more in-depth knowledge was required to take the CCNP tests. For many of the topics I listed above, I didn't receive a single question! What gives?? With that said, some of the questions were difficult, but only because they were the sort that if you didn't already know it, it was tough to guess. The SRB, token ring, OSPF, BGP, and LANE questions were very basic. Anyone with a solid introduction to them and a good memory would be able to ace all of those topics. A few months ago I got a subscription to CertificationZone and I'm very glad I did. I found the real test to be much easier than their practice tests. If you get a subscription and can pass three or four of those exams, you're probably going to be disappointed in the difficulty of the real exam. But that's a good thing! That just means that you'll be very prepared. I may have just gotten lucky with the questions, though. I don't want to make it sound easy, it wasn't. The particular questions just weren't as difficult as I was planning for. I was expecting WWIII and got a minor border skirmish with a small third-world country. :-) I guess that's why they call this a qualification exam. The exceptionally super hard part is yet to come. I see that they've announced the new lab format and now I'm wondering if I should schedule the lab now and plan on taking the two-day version in March of 2002 or so, or should I wait until after Oct. 1st and possibly get the one-day version sooner? Hmm... food for thought. Thanks to all who have helped me so far! (Howard, Priscilla, Chuck, Pamela, Stogieman, Peter, and everyone else I'm forgetting at the moment) I'm now going to go eat dinner with my wife and then sleep for the rest of the weekend! Regards, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12395t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
Hi, First, way to go, sounds like you worked hard! You Deserve it. How much time did any of you take to study for the CCIE written after passing the CCNP exams? Do you have any other advice for those of us going taking baby steps from CCNP studies to the CCIE written? (My co-workers say I should just take the written but the instant gratification of passing the CCNP exams keeps me motivated!) I plan to finish my CCNP/DP before September and then take 2.5 months of studying for the written I'll take in Mid-December. I hope it's good enough to score at least over 80%, but wow, 90% is something to be really proud about. Congrats again. - Ryan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12396t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
I used a *bunch* of books to study for this, as well as a lot of material from CCO. Here are some of the books I used, in no particular order: Routing TCP/IP by Jeff Doyle Internet Routing Architectures by Sam Halabi Bridges, Routers, and Switches by Caslow Cisco LAN Switch Configuration by Sybex Building Cisco Multilayer Switching Networks from Mcgraw Hill Building Cisco Remote Access Networks from Mcgraw Hill CCIE Written Study Guide from Sybex CiscoPress Building Scalable Cisco Networks CiscoPress Wide Area Network Solutions CiscoPress Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting Cisco Security Architectures CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Cram, which i thought was worthless but in hindsight it probably covered most of the test. Add to that list a *lot* of material from CCO, reading through Groupstudy archives, and a subscription to CertificationZone, which was instrumental in my passing the test. Is that enough? ;-) Good luck! John | hi John, | congratulations on your success in this exam.It's no | been only you who rates this exam to be very tough.I | do too and infact i have to tell you that i'ld be | taking the exam in 3 weeks.Could you please tell me | what materials books ++ you used to crush this | exam.I'ld appreciate it. | Thanks | | chika | | --- John Neiberger wrote: | I was *so* worried about taking this test. I had | been hearing from numerous | people how hard it was so I did nothing but cram for | the last two weeks. | Even after that I still did not feel ready, knowing | that there were going to | be numerous questions on ATM, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, SRB, | LANE, NAT, Policy | Routing, Redistribution, etc. | | Well, the worrying was for nothing. I passed with a | 92%! However, I think | that's because I was overprepared for the specific | questions I received. I | know that each test pulls from a pool of 300 or so | questions, but I think I | got about 80 of the easy ones. | | Seriously, I thought that more in-depth knowledge | was required to take the | CCNP tests. For many of the topics I listed above, | I didn't receive a | single question! What gives?? | | With that said, some of the questions were | difficult, but only because they | were the sort that if you didn't already know it, it | was tough to guess. | The SRB, token ring, OSPF, BGP, and LANE questions | were very basic. Anyone | with a solid introduction to them and a good memory | would be able to ace all | of those topics. | | A few months ago I got a subscription to | CertificationZone and I'm very glad | I did. I found the real test to be much easier than | their practice tests. | If you get a subscription and can pass three or four | of those exams, you're | probably going to be disappointed in the difficulty | of the real exam. But | that's a good thing! That just means that you'll be | very prepared. | | I may have just gotten lucky with the questions, | though. I don't want to | make it sound easy, it wasn't. The particular | questions just weren't as | difficult as I was planning for. I was expecting | WWIII and got a minor | border skirmish with a small third-world country. | :-) | | I guess that's why they call this a qualification | exam. The exceptionally | super hard part is yet to come. | | I see that they've announced the new lab format and | now I'm wondering if I | should schedule the lab now and plan on taking the | two-day version in March | of 2002 or so, or should I wait until after Oct. 1st | and possibly get the | one-day version sooner? Hmm... food for thought. | | Thanks to all who have helped me so far! (Howard, | Priscilla, Chuck, Pamela, | Stogieman, Peter, and everyone else I'm forgetting | at the moment) | | I'm now going to go eat dinner with my wife and then | sleep for the rest of | the weekend! | | Regards, | John | | | | | | | ___ | Send a cool gift with your E-Card | http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ | | | | | Message Posted at: | | http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12377t=12377 | -- | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail | http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12401t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
Re: Passed CCIE Written! [7:12377]
Thanks for the congrats, I appreciate it. If I remember correctly, I finished up CCNP in March and CCDP in April. In hindsight, one month of studying would have been plenty to prepare for the written. It covers (potentially) more material than the CCNP/DP tests, but I don't think the questions were more difficult. To use an analogy, I feel that the CCNP/DP tests were a mile wide and an inch deep. The CCIE written is 1.5 miles wide and 2 inches deep, but I prepared as if it were going to be 2 miles wide and 100 yards deep. However, all of that preparation was not for naught. It will come in *very* handy in the lab, I'm sure. As far as taking the written before the CCNP/DP tests, I think you gain a lot of knowledge while studying for those exams and it's worth the time to finish those up first. I personally feel that it adds to the sense of accomplishment to tackle these in order, and the process itself may be worth more than the certs in the long run. If you focus on learning and don't focus on just the certifications, you'll fly through these with no problem. Good luck! John | Hi, | | First, way to go, sounds like you worked hard! You Deserve it. | | How much time did any of you take to study for the CCIE written after | passing the CCNP exams? | | Do you have any other advice for those of us going taking baby steps from | CCNP studies to the CCIE written? (My co-workers say I should just take the | written but the instant gratification of passing the CCNP exams keeps me | motivated!) | | I plan to finish my CCNP/DP before September and then take 2.5 months of | studying for the written I'll take in Mid-December. I hope it's good enough | to score at least over 80%, but wow, 90% is something to be really proud | about. Congrats again. | | - Ryan | | ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12402t=12377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Way to go Dennis Hoping to cross that bridge in 2 months... Wale J. From: Dennis H Reply-To: Dennis H To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565] Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:52:12 -0400 Thanks Louie! Best wishes to you! Dennis EA Louie wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... congrats, Dennis -e- - Original Message - From: Dennis H To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: Passed CCIE written [7:11565] Passed CCIE written on Saturday. It was definitely a difficult test but I did not see anything I would not expect a good CCIE to know. Well maybe one or two things ;-) Now just that little detail called the lab to go. Thanks to everyone here for all their input over the last months. Cheers, Dennis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11914t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Thanks John, Good luck on Saturday and let us know how you do! Dennis John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hey, Congrats!! I'm taking that dang thing next Saturday and I hope I fair as well as you. Way to go! John Dennis H 7/9/01 2:04:34 PM Passed CCIE written on Saturday. It was definitely a difficult test but I did not see anything I would not expect a good CCIE to know. Well maybe one or two things ;-) Now just that little detail called the lab to go. Thanks to everyone here for all their input over the last months. Cheers, Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11692t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Hey Ed, Thanks for the congrats and the advice. I just scheduled the lab for March... that was the soonest for RTP... can you believe the wait is almost 9 months?!? I'm in the process of setting up a study plan now. Good luck on your next attempt! Dennis Ed Moss wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Congrats! I took it six months ago... and know some specific quesitons on the exam that I have never been able to find the answer to! Been to the lab once... and will be there again in January. Best advice... set a study schedule including an outline of the technologies and STICK TO IT! Ed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11693t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Thanks Louie! Best wishes to you! Dennis EA Louie wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... congrats, Dennis -e- - Original Message - From: Dennis H To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: Passed CCIE written [7:11565] Passed CCIE written on Saturday. It was definitely a difficult test but I did not see anything I would not expect a good CCIE to know. Well maybe one or two things ;-) Now just that little detail called the lab to go. Thanks to everyone here for all their input over the last months. Cheers, Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11695t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Passed CCIE written on Saturday. It was definitely a difficult test but I did not see anything I would not expect a good CCIE to know. Well maybe one or two things ;-) Now just that little detail called the lab to go. Thanks to everyone here for all their input over the last months. Cheers, Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11565t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCIE written [7:11565]
Hey, Congrats!! I'm taking that dang thing next Saturday and I hope I fair as well as you. Way to go! John Dennis H 7/9/01 2:04:34 PM Passed CCIE written on Saturday. It was definitely a difficult test but I did not see anything I would not expect a good CCIE to know. Well maybe one or two things ;-) Now just that little detail called the lab to go. Thanks to everyone here for all their input over the last months. Cheers, Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11577t=11565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
