line protocol down

2000-10-16 Thread Rayappa Mayakunthala

I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down consistently.
If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol comes
up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?

Thanks,
Rayappa.


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line protocol down

2000-09-12 Thread Yee, Jason


hi , 

I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
configuration

physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
still showing interface up line protocol down

Any inputs will be greatly appreciated


thanks

Jason



cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.2
no service password-encryption
no service udp-small-servers
no service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname cncnepal.384.128.k2pop
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
interface Ethernet0
 no ip address
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.1.9 255.255.255.252
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 --More-- 
frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
interface Serial1.1 point-to-point
 ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 659   
!
router bgp 64519
 network 202.51.65.0
 network 202.51.66.0
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157
!
line con 0
line 1 16
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password router
 login
!
end

cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh int s1
Serial1 is up, line protocol is down 
  Hardware is HD64570
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 168/255, load 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  60, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 1/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) 
 Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 12363 input errors, 38 CRC, 0 frame, 36 overrun, 739 ignored, 38 abort
 62 packets output, 1162 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 21 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 --More-- 
 0 carrier transitions
 DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up
cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh log
Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 flushes, 0 overruns)
Console logging: level debugging, 13 messages logged
Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
Trap logging: level informational, 17 message lines logged
Buffer logging: level debugging, 13 messages logged
 --More-- 
Log Buffer (4096 bytes):

%LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to up
%LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to down
%LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to up
%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0, changed state to down
%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0, changed state to down
%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1, changed state to up
%FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial1 - DLCI 659 state changed to ACTIVE
%SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
%SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 11.2(18), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Mon 05-Apr-99 19:52 by jaturner
%FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial1 - DLCI 659 state changed to INACTIVE
%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1.1, changed state to down
%FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial1 - DLCI 659 state changed to DELETED
%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1, changed state to down
cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#


RE: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread Feliz, Edgar

Jason,

it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have no
clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it for
you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to fix.
Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the price
is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.

My .02

EF 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
Subject: line protocol down



hi , 

I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
configuration

physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
still showing interface up line protocol down

Any inputs will be greatly appreciated


thanks

Jason

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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread CNN



Edgar,

Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? 
That's what the purpose of this group, not only people ask questions, but we all 
watch and learn from them. 
I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always 
ignore the messages if you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 

 
 
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> it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have 
no> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do 
it for> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid 
to fix.> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help 
the price> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.> > My 
.02> > EF > > -Original Message-> 
From: Yee, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM> To: cisco@groupstudy. com 
(E-mail)> Subject: line protocol down> > > > 
hi , > > I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched 
is the router> configuration> > physical layer confirmed is 
ok as carrier is up but my serial interface> still showing interface up 
line protocol down> > Any inputs will be greatly 
appreciated> > > thanks> > Jason> 
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RE: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread Feliz, Edgar

I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my mind.
Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
keep your trap shut.
 
EF

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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: line protocol down


Edgar,

Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose of
this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn from
them. 

I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages if
you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 

 
 
""Feliz, Edgar"" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message  <A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02>
A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...
> Jason,
> 
> it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have no
> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it
for
> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to fix.
> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the price
> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
> 
> My .02
> 
> EF 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yee, Jason [  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
> To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> Subject: line protocol down
> 
> 
> 
> hi , 
> 
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> configuration
> 
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
> 
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jason
> 
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RE: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread Yee, Jason

hi all , 

With regard to my problem.I was troubleshooting this morning and the problem
is still with their receive.  I first disabled LMI and had him do the same
on his router along with no keepalives.  The PVC came back up from the
perspective of the frame relay switch (with LMI enabled it was down).  I
send 100 packets to him, he doesn't receive them on the router PVC stats.  I
show the packets traversing our frame relay network with zero discards or
errors.  He sends me 100 packets, I show 100 packets coming into our
network.

any comments

Jason

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From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:47 PM
To: Yee, Jason; cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
Subject: Re: line protocol down


Hi,

First of all, your serial interface has input errors
and CRC errors. You have sent LMI but haven't received
any LMI probably due to these input errors and CRC's.
I would check the circuit and CSU config. 

Once you get the line issues sorted out, heres how to
troubleshoot frame based on the output you gave.

Your DLCI 659 is DELETED which is assigned to your sub
interface. Note, it was active when the interface was
first brought up for a short time. This is normal on
Cisco routers. The DLCIs are marked as active when
interface is first brought up until LMI is received or
not. 

Do a 'show frame pvc' and see what DLCIs your learning
from the provider's frame switch if you are. Your LMI
type is ANSI, is this correct? You can do a 'debug
frame lmi' to see LMI packets. LMI is the management
protocol where your DLCIs are learned, status of them,
etc. It has to match that of switch.

In the debug output, you will get at least 2-3 lines
for each LMI poll (plus one more for each PVC, DLCI).
The PVC/DLCI lines in 'debug frame lmi' begin with PVC
... and in middle will have dlci ##. If you don't see
PVC lines in debug output your not learning any DLCIs
and theres a issue w/the configuration of the
providers switch/frame mapping to you, LMI mis-match,
or a line problem. You can switch the LMI-type see if
anything changes as well (while your waiting for
provider to callback).

If debug frame lmi looks good, then do a 'show frame
map' to see what inverse-arp is picking for remote
address's since your not staticly mapping them with a
frame map statement. 

What does 'show frame lmi' show for input/output
(bottom 2 lines of output). 

HTH, Erick B.

--- "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hi , 
> 
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link
> attatched is the router
> configuration
> 
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but
> my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
> 
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jason
> 
> > cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh run
> Building configuration...
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname cncnepal.384.128.k2pop
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  no ip address
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 192.168.1.9 255.255.255.252
>  no fair-queue
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  --More-- 
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial1.1 point-to-point
>  ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 659   
> !
> router bgp 64519
>  network 202.51.65.0
>  network 202.51.66.0
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157
> !
> line con 0
> line 1 16
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  password router
>  login
> !
> end
> 
> cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh int s1
> Serial1 is up, line protocol is down 
>   Hardware is HD64570
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely
> 168/255, load 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set,
> keepalive set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  60, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd
> 0, DTE LMI down
>   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>   LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay
> DTE
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 1/0,
> interface broadcasts 0
>   Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang
> never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output
> drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max
> total/threshold/drops) 
>  Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max
> total)
>  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max
> allocated)
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets

Re: line protocol down(???)

2000-09-13 Thread NeoLink2000

Jay,
   Are you sure it's not his configuration??? Your config looks ok...??? 
I know this was probably asked but is your line going out to a telco 
provider? If so it looks like this could be a routing issue. If he can get to 
you but you cant get to him then it looks like there's something wrong with 
his side, or blocking you somehow. Did this just all of a sudden happen out 
of nowhere or is this something that you just set up??? His DLCI mapping 
commands may be a little screwy...just a though, well...a couple  ;)

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RE: line protocol down(???)

2000-09-13 Thread Yee, Jason

thanks for your reply , ok I will check the DLCI command .

Jason

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Jay,
   Are you sure it's not his configuration??? Your config looks ok...???

I know this was probably asked but is your line going out to a telco 
provider? If so it looks like this could be a routing issue. If he can get
to 
you but you cant get to him then it looks like there's something wrong with 
his side, or blocking you somehow. Did this just all of a sudden happen out 
of nowhere or is this something that you just set up??? His DLCI mapping 
commands may be a little screwy...just a though, well...a couple  ;)

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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a 
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-14 Thread Jason



I totally agree with you , thanks 
pal!!

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  Edgar,
  
  Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? 
  That's what the purpose of this group, not only people ask questions, but we 
  all watch and learn from them. 
  I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always 
  ignore the messages if you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 
  
   
   
  ""Feliz, Edgar"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...> Jason,> 
  > it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you 
  have no> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR 
  job to do it for> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are 
  getting paid to fix.> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If 
  you want my help the price> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.> 
  > My .02> > EF > > -Original 
  Message-> From: Yee, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM> To: cisco@groupstudy. com 
  (E-mail)> Subject: line protocol down> > > 
  > hi , > > I have problems with my frame-relay serial 
  link attatched is the router> configuration> > physical 
  layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface> still 
  showing interface up line protocol down> > Any inputs will be 
  greatly appreciated> > > thanks> > 
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-14 Thread Templecombe

What a cool guy!

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> I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my
mind.
> Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
> keep your trap shut.
>
> EF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CNN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: line protocol down
>
>
> Edgar,
>
> Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose of
> this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn from
> them.
>
> I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages if
> you do not like it and keep your mouth shut.
>
>
>
> ""Feliz, Edgar"" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote in message  <A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02>
> A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...
> > Jason,
> >
> > it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have
no
> > clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it
> for
> > you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to
fix.
> > Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the
price
> > is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
> >
> > My .02
> >
> > EF
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yee, Jason [  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
> > To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> > Subject: line protocol down
> >
> >
> >
> > hi ,
> >
> > I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> > configuration
> >
> > physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> > still showing interface up line protocol down
> >
> > Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-14 Thread Richard A. Holland

Plenty of ego being thrown around this list lately

Richard A. Holland
Voice/Data Integrator
Telec, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Templecombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: line protocol down


>What a cool guy!
>
>""Feliz, Edgar"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FB26@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FB26@SNYC1NT02...
>> I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my
>mind.
>> Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
>> keep your trap shut.
>>
>> EF
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CNN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:09 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: line protocol down
>>
>>
>> Edgar,
>>
>> Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose
of
>> this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn
from
>> them.
>>
>> I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages
if
>> you do not like it and keep your mouth shut.
>>
>>
>>
>> ""Feliz, Edgar"" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote in message  <A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02>
>> A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...
>> > Jason,
>> >
>> > it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have
>no
>> > clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do
it
>> for
>> > you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to
>fix.
>> > Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the
>price
>> > is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
>> >
>> > My .02
>> >
>> > EF
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Yee, Jason [  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
>> > To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
>> > Subject: line protocol down
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hi ,
>> >
>> > I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
>> > configuration
>> >
>> > physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
>> > still showing interface up line protocol down
>> >
>> > Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
>> >
>> >
>> > thanks
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RE: line protocol down

2000-09-15 Thread Traister, Blake (SBCI)

I think turfing your mail before its delivered is a better option.  Thats my
usual fix for cowards and primadonnas.  Thanks for reminding me why I do
that.  Keep your trap shut...you are a brave little fellow.  You are also in
the wrong place.

Darth

-Original Message-
From: Feliz, Edgar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 3:41 PM
To: CNN; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: line protocol down


I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my mind.
Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
keep your trap shut.
 
EF

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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: line protocol down


Edgar,

Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose of
this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn from
them. 

I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages if
you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 

 
 
""Feliz, Edgar"" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message  <A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02>
A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...
> Jason,
> 
> it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have no
> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it
for
> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to fix.
> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the price
> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
> 
> My .02
> 
> EF 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yee, Jason [  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
> To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> Subject: line protocol down
> 
> 
> 
> hi , 
> 
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> configuration
> 
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
> 
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jason
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-16 Thread John Kaberna

What the hell is turfing?  Maybe I am stupid but I have never heard this
term before.  I am a firm believer in everyone having the right to say
whatever he or she pleases.  One cannot please everyone and anything someone
says that is slightly controversial is bound to offend a bunch of people on
this list.  Too bad is what I say.  If you don't like what someone has to
say waaah waaah tough crap.

John

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To: 'Feliz, Edgar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; CNN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: line protocol down


> I think turfing your mail before its delivered is a better option.  Thats
my
> usual fix for cowards and primadonnas.  Thanks for reminding me why I do
> that.  Keep your trap shut...you are a brave little fellow.  You are also
in
> the wrong place.
>
> Darth
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Feliz, Edgar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: CNN; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: line protocol down
>
>
> I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my
mind.
> Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
> keep your trap shut.
>
> EF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CNN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: line protocol down
>
>
> Edgar,
>
> Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose of
> this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn from
> them.
>
> I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages if
> you do not like it and keep your mouth shut.
>
>
>
> ""Feliz, Edgar"" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote in message  <A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02>
> A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02">news:A1951EBFDB75D31188E200805F6FEE71B7FACF@SNYC1NT02...
> > Jason,
> >
> > it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have
no
> > clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it
> for
> > you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to
fix.
> > Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the
price
> > is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
> >
> > My .02
> >
> > EF
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yee, Jason [  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
> > To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> > Subject: line protocol down
> >
> >
> >
> > hi ,
> >
> > I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> > configuration
> >
> > physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> > still showing interface up line protocol down
> >
> > Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Jason
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Line protocol down (looped)

2000-10-11 Thread bbaeta

Groupstudy list Gurus
I am having some serious trouble setting up my 2522 router as a frame 
switch. I am using the frame relay hub and spoke example Lab #13 from the 
All-in-one  CCIE lab study guide. I am entering the commands just like in 
the book, but I one of the spoke interfaces comes up for a short time, and 
then goes down. When I show int I get Serial0 is up, line protocol is down 
(looped). What's that about?

the frame switch sho run gives
<-edited->
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 200 interface Serial1 200
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 200 interface Serial0 200
 frame-relay route 210 interface Serial2 210
!
interface Serial2
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 210 interface Serial1 210

and the bad spoke sho run gives
<-edited->
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.1.1.4 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi

I hope I have been descriptive enough, and thanks in advance.

Boris


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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-16 Thread Brian W.

Is this happening in times of heavy usage?  What have you figured out so
far?

Brian

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Rayappa Mayakunthala wrote:

> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Rayappa.
> 
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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-16 Thread Rahul Kachalia

Hi,

I believe keepalive is on, if it is turn if off ( say no keepalive ) &
also send the show command output of flapping interface.

Thanks
Rahul.

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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: line protocol down


> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down
consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol
comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
> Rayappa.
>
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RE: line protocol down

2000-10-16 Thread Jon Kuhn

Also, check how much memory you have in the router.

Jon





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Sent:   Monday, October 16, 2000 4:04 PM
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Subject:Re: line protocol down

Hi,

I believe keepalive is on, if it is turn if off ( say no keepalive ) &
also send the show command output of flapping interface.

Thanks
Rahul.

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: line protocol down


> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down
consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol
comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
> Rayappa.
>
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RE: line protocol down

2000-10-16 Thread Anand Sudula

Seems to be problem with Clocking .Checking  the clock settings on Modem
(internal or external Clock) may help to solve the problem .
Regards
Anand Sudula

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Subject:    RE: line protocol down

Also, check how much memory you have in the router.

Jon





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Sent:   Monday, October 16, 2000 4:04 PM
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Subject:    Re: line protocol down

Hi,

I believe keepalive is on, if it is turn if off ( say no keepalive ) &
also send the show command output of flapping interface.

Thanks
Rahul.

- Original Message -
From: "Rayappa Mayakunthala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: line protocol down


> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down
consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol
comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
> Rayappa.
>
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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-17 Thread net974 at Yahoo

I faced this problem in my router and can't get solution for that.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:49 AM
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> Seems to be problem with Clocking .Checking  the clock settings on Modem
> (internal or external Clock) may help to solve the problem .
> Regards
> Anand Sudula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:50 AM
> To: 'Rahul Kachalia'; Rayappa Mayakunthala; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: line protocol down
>
> Also, check how much memory you have in the router.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
> 
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> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: line protocol down
>
> Hi,
>
> I believe keepalive is on, if it is turn if off ( say no keepalive ) &
> also send the show command output of flapping interface.
>
> Thanks
> Rahul.
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Rayappa Mayakunthala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:18 AM
> Subject: line protocol down
>
>
> > I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol goes down
> consistently.
> > If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router, the line protocol
> comes
> > up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours and history repeats. I
> > couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rayappa.
> >
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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-18 Thread jason yee

Not many clues given though

but from what you say it seems logical that you should
check the status of your serial interface see if there
are many input errors or crc errors if there are check
the clock rate of your modem 

otherwise check the status of the other party that you
are connected to to see if they were down 

however you can also confirm that your interface port
is ok but putting keepalives equal to 0 to see that
the status is up up 

suaveguru
--- Rayappa Mayakunthala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol
> goes down consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router,
> the line protocol comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours
> and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Rayappa.
> 
>

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RE: line protocol down

2000-10-18 Thread Anand Sudula

Which make of csu/dsu(modem) u r using for this ?? most of the times the
line protocol will not come up due to clocking problem on the modem or tooo
many errors on the line ... I had this problem when connecting two of our
offices with 2 wire modem(RAD Make) . and we found there are lots of errors
on line provided by local telco . It was fixed by telco by using different
pairs  then line protocol came up .  so I suggest u first check the line  (
test with Bert Tester)and then modem settings .
Hope this helps
Anand Sudula
Systems Administrator NT/Exchange
IT Department
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Sent:   Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:27 AM
To: Rayappa Mayakunthala; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:    Re: line protocol down

Not many clues given though

but from what you say it seems logical that you should
check the status of your serial interface see if there
are many input errors or crc errors if there are check
the clock rate of your modem 

otherwise check the status of the other party that you
are connected to to see if they were down 

however you can also confirm that your interface port
is ok but putting keepalives equal to 0 to see that
the status is up up 

suaveguru
--- Rayappa Mayakunthala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol
> goes down consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router,
> the line protocol comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours
> and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Rayappa.
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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-19 Thread dan snyder

is this frame-relay?  and is this a new connection?

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From: "Anand Sudula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rayappa Mayakunthala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: line protocol down


> Which make of csu/dsu(modem) u r using for this ?? most of the times the
> line protocol will not come up due to clocking problem on the modem or
tooo
> many errors on the line ... I had this problem when connecting two of our
> offices with 2 wire modem(RAD Make) . and we found there are lots of
errors
> on line provided by local telco . It was fixed by telco by using different
> pairs  then line protocol came up .  so I suggest u first check the line
(
> test with Bert Tester)and then modem settings .
> Hope this helps
> Anand Sudula
> Systems Administrator NT/Exchange
> IT Department
> Baan Info Systems India Pvt. Ltd.
> Tel. +91 (0)40-3607299 Extn:1509
> Fax.+91(0)40-3607366
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: jason yee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:27 AM
> To: Rayappa Mayakunthala; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: line protocol down
>
> Not many clues given though
>
> but from what you say it seems logical that you should
> check the status of your serial interface see if there
> are many input errors or crc errors if there are check
> the clock rate of your modem
>
> otherwise check the status of the other party that you
> are connected to to see if they were down
>
> however you can also confirm that your interface port
> is ok but putting keepalives equal to 0 to see that
> the status is up up
>
> suaveguru
> --- Rayappa Mayakunthala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol
> > goes down consistently.
> > If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router,
> > the line protocol comes
> > up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours
> > and history repeats. I
> > couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rayappa.
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread John Kaberna

One of the things your carrier may require is the type after your DLCI
number.  Contact your carrier and they will tell you what it should be.  Do
you have external CSU's or using internal on the router?

For example:

interface Serial1.1 point-to-point
frame-relay interface-dlci 659 IETF

Your bgp config isn't going to work either.  It's missing a few lines.  Are
you planning on running BGP?  If so, let me know and we can work on that
problem next.

John

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To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:55 PM
Subject: line protocol down


>
> hi ,
>
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> configuration
>
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
>
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
>
>
> thanks
>
> Jason
>
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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

First of all, your serial interface has input errors
and CRC errors. You have sent LMI but haven't received
any LMI probably due to these input errors and CRC's.
I would check the circuit and CSU config. 

Once you get the line issues sorted out, heres how to
troubleshoot frame based on the output you gave.

Your DLCI 659 is DELETED which is assigned to your sub
interface. Note, it was active when the interface was
first brought up for a short time. This is normal on
Cisco routers. The DLCIs are marked as active when
interface is first brought up until LMI is received or
not. 

Do a 'show frame pvc' and see what DLCIs your learning
from the provider's frame switch if you are. Your LMI
type is ANSI, is this correct? You can do a 'debug
frame lmi' to see LMI packets. LMI is the management
protocol where your DLCIs are learned, status of them,
etc. It has to match that of switch.

In the debug output, you will get at least 2-3 lines
for each LMI poll (plus one more for each PVC, DLCI).
The PVC/DLCI lines in 'debug frame lmi' begin with PVC
... and in middle will have dlci ##. If you don't see
PVC lines in debug output your not learning any DLCIs
and theres a issue w/the configuration of the
providers switch/frame mapping to you, LMI mis-match,
or a line problem. You can switch the LMI-type see if
anything changes as well (while your waiting for
provider to callback).

If debug frame lmi looks good, then do a 'show frame
map' to see what inverse-arp is picking for remote
address's since your not staticly mapping them with a
frame map statement. 

What does 'show frame lmi' show for input/output
(bottom 2 lines of output). 

HTH, Erick B.

--- "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hi , 
> 
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link
> attatched is the router
> configuration
> 
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but
> my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
> 
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jason
> 
> > cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh run
> Building configuration...
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname cncnepal.384.128.k2pop
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  no ip address
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 192.168.1.9 255.255.255.252
>  no fair-queue
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  --More-- 
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial1.1 point-to-point
>  ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 659   
> !
> router bgp 64519
>  network 202.51.65.0
>  network 202.51.66.0
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157
> !
> line con 0
> line 1 16
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  password router
>  login
> !
> end
> 
> cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh int s1
> Serial1 is up, line protocol is down 
>   Hardware is HD64570
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely
> 168/255, load 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set,
> keepalive set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  60, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd
> 0, DTE LMI down
>   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>   LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay
> DTE
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 1/0,
> interface broadcasts 0
>   Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang
> never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output
> drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max
> total/threshold/drops) 
>  Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max
> total)
>  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max
> allocated)
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0
> throttles
>  12363 input errors, 38 CRC, 0 frame, 36
> overrun, 739 ignored, 38 abort
>  62 packets output, 1162 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 21 interface
> resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers
> swapped out
>  --More-- 
>  0 carrier transitions
>  DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up
> cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh log
> Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0
> flushes, 0 overruns)
> Console logging: level debugging, 13 messages
> logged
> Monitor logging: level 

Re: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread John Kaberna

I would also suggest clearing the counters.  Often times when new circuits
are brought up there is a burst of errors.

John

Good comments btw Erick.

- Original Message -
From: Erick B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Yee, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: line protocol down


> Hi,
>
> First of all, your serial interface has input errors
> and CRC errors. You have sent LMI but haven't received
> any LMI probably due to these input errors and CRC's.
> I would check the circuit and CSU config.
>
> Once you get the line issues sorted out, heres how to
> troubleshoot frame based on the output you gave.
>
> Your DLCI 659 is DELETED which is assigned to your sub
> interface. Note, it was active when the interface was
> first brought up for a short time. This is normal on
> Cisco routers. The DLCIs are marked as active when
> interface is first brought up until LMI is received or
> not.
>
> Do a 'show frame pvc' and see what DLCIs your learning
> from the provider's frame switch if you are. Your LMI
> type is ANSI, is this correct? You can do a 'debug
> frame lmi' to see LMI packets. LMI is the management
> protocol where your DLCIs are learned, status of them,
> etc. It has to match that of switch.
>
> In the debug output, you will get at least 2-3 lines
> for each LMI poll (plus one more for each PVC, DLCI).
> The PVC/DLCI lines in 'debug frame lmi' begin with PVC
> ... and in middle will have dlci ##. If you don't see
> PVC lines in debug output your not learning any DLCIs
> and theres a issue w/the configuration of the
> providers switch/frame mapping to you, LMI mis-match,
> or a line problem. You can switch the LMI-type see if
> anything changes as well (while your waiting for
> provider to callback).
>
> If debug frame lmi looks good, then do a 'show frame
> map' to see what inverse-arp is picking for remote
> address's since your not staticly mapping them with a
> frame map statement.
>
> What does 'show frame lmi' show for input/output
> (bottom 2 lines of output).
>
> HTH, Erick B.
>
> --- "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > hi ,
> >
> > I have problems with my frame-relay serial link
> > attatched is the router
> > configuration
> >
> > physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but
> > my serial interface
> > still showing interface up line protocol down
> >
> > Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > > cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh run
> > Building configuration...
> >
> > Current configuration:
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > no service tcp-small-servers
> > !
> > hostname cncnepal.384.128.k2pop
> > !
> > !
> > ip subnet-zero
> > !
> > interface Ethernet0
> >  no ip address
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> >  ip address 192.168.1.9 255.255.255.252
> >  no fair-queue
> > !
> > interface Serial1
> >  no ip address
> >  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> >  --More--
> > frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> > !
> > interface Serial1.1 point-to-point
> >  ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252
> >  frame-relay interface-dlci 659
> > !
> > router bgp 64519
> >  network 202.51.65.0
> >  network 202.51.66.0
> > !
> > ip classless
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157
> > !
> > line con 0
> > line 1 16
> > line aux 0
> > line vty 0 4
> >  password router
> >  login
> > !
> > end
> >
> > cncnepal.384.128.k2pop#sh int s1
> > Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
> >   Hardware is HD64570
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely
> > 168/255, load 1/255
> >   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set,
> > keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   LMI enq sent  60, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd
> > 0, DTE LMI down
> >   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
> >   LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay
> > DTE
> >   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 1/0,
> > interface broadcasts 0
> >   Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang
> > never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
> >   Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output
> > drops: 0
> >   Queueing strategy: we

RE: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread William E Gragido

Well, I took a real quick glance but here are a few questions for you that
may help you out:

1)  Why have you selected the IETF encapuslation type?  Are you dealing with
Cisco and some other vendor?
2)  As far as the Up-Down situation, have you verified the source of network
clocking?  What type of router-csu/dsu combination is in place?  I would
check the source of clocking again verify whether or not there is an issue
with the settings on your csu/dsu.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Yee, Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:56 AM
> To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> Subject: line protocol down
>
>
>
> hi ,
>
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> configuration
>
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
>
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
>
>
> thanks
>
> Jason
>
>

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Re: line protocol down

2000-09-13 Thread Frank Wells

Are you using a frame relay simulator, or is this a connection to the telco? 
  If this is a frame lab you have at home post the config of the router at 
the other end of this link.  The details of the frame switch would be 
helpful too.




>From: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: line protocol down
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:55:57 -0500
>
>
>hi ,
>
>I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
>configuration
>
>physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
>still showing interface up line protocol down
>
>Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
>
>
>thanks
>
>Jason
>
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Re: Line Protocol Down Status

2000-05-15 Thread Sadguna Kumar Dasari


Sadguna Kumar Dasari  wrote in message news:...
> Hi Folks:
>
> This is self-study lab kind of deal.  I have an AGS+ router with 6 serial
> ports and three 2500 series routers. I connected Serial 0 int on each of
> these 2500 routers to Serial 2, 3, and 4 of AGS+. DCE in each case is on
> AGS. Clock rate set. The Interface is up on all these interfaces but line
> protocol is down. It is pretty simple config as I am just setting this up.
I
> can't figure out what the problem is.
>
> As a general question what causes the Interface to up and the line
protocol
> to be down. I tried to ping the ip number given to these interfaces from
the
> same router and I didn't get any response back. Is this because the line
> protocol is down. In the int config mode of these interfaces I added
> loopback command and pinged the int again but no answer. What could be the
> problem?
>
> Unfortunately, I don't exactly remember which serial int on AGS connects
to
> which Serial 0 on which 2500 routers. But since it is straight forward
> connection, I switched the ip numbers on the interfaces around to see
where
> the connection would be made. For example i configure s0 on the r1 (first
> 2500 rourter) with 192.1.3.1/24 and try 192.1.3.2/24 on s2, s3, and s4
> respectively on AGS+. But none of them would work. All 2500 runnig 11.3(x)
> version of IOS and AGS is 11.0(22). Encapsulation on both ends is the
> default hdlc.
>
> I attached the command output as a seperate txt file.  Can some body help
me
> figure out the problem? Any help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Kumar Dasari
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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vlan line protocol down [7:39409]

2002-03-25 Thread Sammy Kwong

Hi,

I just got a 2950 switch yesterday and start to play with it. After
sometime, I set the ip
and going to ping it, but no respond. Check the ip interface, the line
protocol is down:

Vlan1 is up, line protocol is down
  Internet address is 172.28.32.107/25
  Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
  Address determined by setup command
  MTU is 1500 bytes
 .

I checked the IOS:
IOS (tm) C2950 Software (C2950-I6Q4L2-M), Version 12.1(6)EA2a, RELEASE
SOFTWARE
(fc1)

The configuration is SIMPLE as below, can anyone give me some idea
what's wrong and
how can I fix it?

Many thanks!

Sammy.

==

Current configuration : 854 bytes
!
version 12.1
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch_11
!
enable secret 5 $1$33S1$CT6ICwPPc6f01xb27Elu30
!
no ip subnet-zero
no ip finger
no ip domain-lookup
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2



interface FastEthernet0/12
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 172.28.32.107 255.255.255.128
 no ip route-cache
!
no ip http server
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 transport input none
line vty 0 4
 no login
line vty 5 15
 no login
!
end

==
Switch_11#sh vlan

VLAN Name StatusPorts
  -
---
1default  activeFa0/1, Fa0/2, Fa0/3,
Fa0/4
Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7,
Fa0/8
Fa0/9, Fa0/10, Fa0/11,
Fa0/12
Gi0/1, Gi0/2
1002 fddi-default active
1003 token-ring-default   active
1004 fddinet-default  active
1005 trnet-defaultactive

VLAN Type  SAID   MTU   Parent RingNo BridgeNo Stp  BrdgMode Trans1
Trans2
 - -- - -- --    --
--
1enet  11 1500  -  -  ---1002
1003
1002 fddi  101002 1500  -  -  ---1
1003
1003 tr101003 1500  1005   0  --srb  1
1002
1004 fdnet 101004 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0
0
1005 trnet 101005 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0
0




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RE: vlan line protocol down [7:39409]

2002-03-25 Thread Mark Odette II

Without any experience with this Switch, I can only guess at this
possibility:

Did you program the VLAN config from a console port??
If so, Do you have anything plugged into ANY of the FastEthernet ports??

If not, try plugging a workstation, laptop, or whatever type of node that
suits your fancy, and then go back to your terminal program to see if you
get anything.

Better yet, if you're programming IP addresses on a VLAN specifically,
perhaps you should first connect the switch to a router and configure
trunking to support Sub-interface VLAN routing.  I bet that this is actually
what your issue is.

If you want to assign an IP address to the switch to ping it or telnet to
it, try assigning the IP address to one of the Ethernet Interfaces.
that is...

Switch_11#config terminal
Switch_11#(config)int fa0/1
Switch_11#(config-if)ip address 172.28.32.107 255.255.255.128
Switch_11#(config-if)end
Switch_11#ping 172.28.32.107

and see if you get:
!

If all else fails, look up Basic Configuration of Cisco 2950 Switch on
www.cisco.com , and I'll bet you'll find out the answers to your questions.

Good luck.
Mark

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Sammy Kwong
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan line protocol down [7:39409]


Hi,

I just got a 2950 switch yesterday and start to play with it. After
sometime, I set the ip
and going to ping it, but no respond. Check the ip interface, the line
protocol is down:

Vlan1 is up, line protocol is down
  Internet address is 172.28.32.107/25
  Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
  Address determined by setup command
  MTU is 1500 bytes
 .

I checked the IOS:
IOS (tm) C2950 Software (C2950-I6Q4L2-M), Version 12.1(6)EA2a, RELEASE
SOFTWARE
(fc1)

The configuration is SIMPLE as below, can anyone give me some idea
what's wrong and
how can I fix it?

Many thanks!

Sammy.

==

Current configuration : 854 bytes
!
version 12.1
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch_11
!
enable secret 5 $1$33S1$CT6ICwPPc6f01xb27Elu30
!
no ip subnet-zero
no ip finger
no ip domain-lookup
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2



interface FastEthernet0/12
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 172.28.32.107 255.255.255.128
 no ip route-cache
!
no ip http server
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 transport input none
line vty 0 4
 no login
line vty 5 15
 no login
!
end

==
Switch_11#sh vlan

VLAN Name StatusPorts
  - 
---
1default  activeFa0/1, Fa0/2, Fa0/3, Fa0/4
Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7, Fa0/8
Fa0/9, Fa0/10, Fa0/11,
Fa0/12
Gi0/1, Gi0/2
1002 fddi-default active
1003 token-ring-default   active
1004 fddinet-default  active
1005 trnet-defaultactive

VLAN Type  SAID   MTU   Parent RingNo BridgeNo Stp  BrdgMode Trans1
Trans2
 - -- - -- --    ---
-
1enet  11 1500  -  -  ---1002 1003
1002 fddi  101002 1500  -  -  ---1 1003
1003 tr101003 1500  1005   0  --srb  1 1002
1004 fdnet 101004 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0 0
1005 trnet 101005 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0 0




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RE: vlan line protocol down [7:39409]

2002-03-25 Thread Sammy Kwong

Dear Mark,

Thanks so much! Your solution works:

>If not, try plugging a workstation, laptop, or whatever type of node
that
>suits your fancy, and then go back to your terminal program to see if
you
>get anything.

The problem is that I need to plug-in a work station to
a port with that vlan assigned. After plugin, I can ping
myself from the console.

I never think of such a design on 2950 since I have another
band new 3548XL, without plug-in any workstation, it can ping itself.

Thanks again for your help and quick respond~

Sammy.

(Does it mentioned in CCNA? If so, I may need to re-exam my CCNA.)

-Original Message-
From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: vlan line protocol down [7:39409]


Without any experience with this Switch, I can only guess at this
possibility:

Did you program the VLAN config from a console port??
If so, Do you have anything plugged into ANY of the FastEthernet ports??

If not, try plugging a workstation, laptop, or whatever type of node
that
suits your fancy, and then go back to your terminal program to see if
you
get anything.

Better yet, if you're programming IP addresses on a VLAN specifically,
perhaps you should first connect the switch to a router and configure
trunking to support Sub-interface VLAN routing.  I bet that this is
actually
what your issue is.

If you want to assign an IP address to the switch to ping it or telnet
to
it, try assigning the IP address to one of the Ethernet Interfaces.
that is...

Switch_11#config terminal
Switch_11#(config)int fa0/1
Switch_11#(config-if)ip address 172.28.32.107 255.255.255.128
Switch_11#(config-if)end
Switch_11#ping 172.28.32.107

and see if you get:
!

If all else fails, look up Basic Configuration of Cisco 2950 Switch on
www.cisco.com , and I'll bet you'll find out the answers to your
questions.

Good luck.
Mark

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Sammy Kwong
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan line protocol down [7:39409]


Hi,

I just got a 2950 switch yesterday and start to play with it. After
sometime, I set the ip
and going to ping it, but no respond. Check the ip interface, the line
protocol is down:

Vlan1 is up, line protocol is down
  Internet address is 172.28.32.107/25
  Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
  Address determined by setup command
  MTU is 1500 bytes
 .

I checked the IOS:
IOS (tm) C2950 Software (C2950-I6Q4L2-M), Version 12.1(6)EA2a, RELEASE
SOFTWARE
(fc1)

The configuration is SIMPLE as below, can anyone give me some idea
what's wrong and
how can I fix it?

Many thanks!

Sammy.

==

Current configuration : 854 bytes
!
version 12.1
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch_11
!
enable secret 5 $1$33S1$CT6ICwPPc6f01xb27Elu30
!
no ip subnet-zero
no ip finger
no ip domain-lookup
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2



interface FastEthernet0/12
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 172.28.32.107 255.255.255.128
 no ip route-cache
!
no ip http server
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 transport input none
line vty 0 4
 no login
line vty 5 15
 no login
!
end

==
Switch_11#sh vlan

VLAN Name StatusPorts
  -

---
1default  activeFa0/1, Fa0/2, Fa0/3,
Fa0/4
Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7,
Fa0/8
Fa0/9, Fa0/10, Fa0/11,
Fa0/12
Gi0/1, Gi0/2
1002 fddi-default active
1003 token-ring-default   active
1004 fddinet-default  active
1005 trnet-defaultactive

VLAN Type  SAID   MTU   Parent RingNo BridgeNo Stp  BrdgMode Trans1
Trans2
 - -- - -- --   
---
-
1enet  11 1500  -  -  ---1002
1003
1002 fddi  101002 1500  -  -  ---1 1003
1003 tr101003 1500  1005   0  --srb  1 1002
1004 fdnet 101004 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0 0
1005 trnet 101005 1500  -  -  1ibm  -0 0




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Serial down line protocol down [7:45957]

2002-06-06 Thread Waqar Ahmed

Hi,

I am facing problem in our new commissioned DXX link .
line protocol and serial are down but output of show
controller shows v.35 TX RX clock detected.

Please advice.



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FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-25 Thread md. nazri

hi all,
got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down although the
cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will down..any
help appreciated

tq




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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-25 Thread Vincent Chong

1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
configuration.  You have to
shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and line
protocol down.

2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection attached to
Fastethernet.
Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal, when it
detected, it will
up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration, the
ethernet interface
will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
interface, of courese.

Hope this help
Vincent Chong



""md. nazri""   hi all,
> got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down although the
> cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will down..any
> help appreciated
>
> tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-25 Thread md. nazri

thanks for the answer...
i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE still up,
does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
Ethernet..?
- Original Message -
From: "Vincent Chong" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]


> 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> configuration.  You have to
> shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and line
> protocol down.
>
> 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection attached
to
> Fastethernet.
> Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal, when it
> detected, it will
> up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration, the
> ethernet interface
> will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
> interface, of courese.
>
> Hope this help
> Vincent Chong
>
>
>
> ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down although
the
> > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
down..any
> > help appreciated
> >
> > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet report 
that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems to just 
be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.

Priscilla

At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
>thanks for the answer...
>i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE still up,
>does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
>Ethernet..?
>- Original Message -
>From: "Vincent Chong"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
>
>
> > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > configuration.  You have to
> >     shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and line
> > protocol down.
> >
> > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection attached
>to
> > Fastethernet.
> > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal, when it
> > detected, it will
> > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration, the
> > ethernet interface
> > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
> > interface, of courese.
> >
> > Hope this help
> >     Vincent Chong
> >
> >
> >
> > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down although
>the
> > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
>down..any
> > > help appreciated
> > >
> > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-25 Thread md. nazri

if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health checkup.
another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get 100meg
for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?
- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]


> I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet report
> that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems to just
> be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> >thanks for the answer...
> >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE still
up,
> >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> >Ethernet..?
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Vincent Chong"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> >
> >
> > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > configuration.  You have to
> > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and
line
> > > protocol down.
> > >
> > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
attached
> >to
> > > Fastethernet.
> > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal, when
it
> > > detected, it will
> > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
the
> > > ethernet interface
> > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
> > > interface, of courese.
> > >
> > > Hope this help
> > > Vincent Chong
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
although
> >the
> > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> >down..any
> > > > help appreciated
> > > >
> > > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread David Chandler

hey! somebody gets it! Thanks Priscilla:

It always bothers me that full-duplex is refereed to as 200 meg.  The
server folks always think that all their performance issues will go away
when they go to "full-duplex".  Sure, no collision, but considering the
unbalanced nature of client/server traffic it doesn't make that big of a
throughput difference. 

I'm surprised that my T1's are not referred to as 3 mbps links. They are
full-duplex too   :->

DaveC

 Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> At 12:23 AM 4/26/01, md. nazri wrote:
> >if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health checkup.
> >another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get 100meg
> >for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?
> 
> Each of the two stations on a point-to-point FE full-duplex link get
> dedicated 100 Mbps bandwidth for transmitting. One station's transmit
> medium is the other's receive medium. Some people call this 200 Mbps. In
> actuality most traffic types don't take advantage of this.
> 
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> >To:
> >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:07 AM
> >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> >
> >
> > > I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet report
> > > that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems to
> just
> > > be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
still
> >up,
> > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > > >Ethernet..?
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down
and
> >line
> > > > > protocol down.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> >attached
> > > >to
> > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
> when
> >it
> > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
> >the
> > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable
the
> > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
> >although
> > > >the
> > > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> > > >down..any
> > > > > > help appreciated
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good answer.

Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the interface 
up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface 
ethernet,

Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.

How about RJ45?

How about MII?

GMII?

Others?

Thanks

Priscilla



> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > >thanks for the answer...
> > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE still
>up,
> > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > >Ethernet..?
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and
>line
> > > > protocol down.
> > > >
> > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
>attached
> > >to
> > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
when
>it
> > > > detected, it will
> > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
>the
> > > > ethernet interface
> > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
> > > > interface, of courese.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this help
> > > > Vincent Chong
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
>although
> > >the
> > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> > >down..any
> > > > > help appreciated
> > > > >
> > > > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread David Chandler

Found some info:

Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been activated.
Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
sends out.

YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm

Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
in a little more detail.

DaveC

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good answer.
> 
> Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the interface
> up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface
> ethernet,
> 
> Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> 
> How about RJ45?
> 
> How about MII?
> 
> GMII?
> 
> Others?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
still
> >up,
> > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > > >Ethernet..?
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down
and
> >line
> > > > > protocol down.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> >attached
> > > >to
> > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
> when
> >it
> > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
> >the
> > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable
the
> > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
> >although
> > > >the
> > > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> > > >down..any
> > > > > > help appreciated
> > > > > >
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

True!! Only 100Meg in and 100Meg out but on a 100Meg Half duplex connection
at best you get less than 50Meg.  You must listen to your own signal
anything over 50% in one direction is pure rubbish.  In reality over 30% of
the specified bandwidth you are probably already retransmitting heaps.

I therefore disagree that there is no significant difference in network
performance.  However, the ability of the server and or the network cards
ability to pull data off the network and deliver it to the server is a
different matter.  A good example is from back in the old days with an 8bit
10Meg Half duplex card into a I386 a real speed of 280K was more the reality.

Just some thoughts.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 03:14:50 PM, David Chandler wrote:

> hey! somebody gets it! Thanks Priscilla:
> 
> It always bothers me that full-duplex is refereed to as 200 meg.  The
> server folks always think that all their performance issues will go away
> when they go to "full-duplex".  Sure, no collision, but considering the
> unbalanced nature of client/server traffic it doesn't make that big of a
> throughput difference. 
> 
> I'm surprised that my T1's are not referred to as 3 mbps links. They are
> full-duplex too   :->
> 
> DaveC
> 
>  Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > At 12:23 AM 4/26/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > >if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health checkup.
> > >another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get
100meg
> > >for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?
> > 
> > Each of the two stations on a point-to-point FE full-duplex link get
> > dedicated 100 Mbps bandwidth for transmitting. One station's transmit
> > medium is the other's receive medium. Some people call this 200 Mbps. In
> > actuality most traffic types don't take advantage of this.
> > 
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:07 AM
> > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet
report
> > > > that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems to
> > just
> > > > be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
> still
> > >up,
> > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down
> and
> > >line
> > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> > >attached
> > > > >to
> > > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
> > when
> > >it
> > > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface
configuration,
> > >the
> > > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable
> the
> > > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
> > >although
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > cable was pulled

Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

On an ethernet the router will say it is admin up and connection down when
nothing is seen at the end.  This is common on most devices Cisco and non
Cisco.  Most SNMP managed devices show this.  It is a way of knowing the
service is avalable for use.  In the Hub (repeater) days it was possible to
turn ports on and off even as a security arrangement (run different configs
for different times)  This saves a lot of errors on SNMP as you can tell the
difference in the states easily.

Just some thoughts.  (I think the up down is always the case if the link is
not there)

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 05:47:34 PM, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good answer.
> 
> Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the interface 
> up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface 
> ethernet,
> 
> Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> 
> How about RJ45?
> 
> How about MII?
> 
> GMII?
> 
> Others?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> 
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
still
> >up,
> > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > > >Ethernet..?
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down
and
> >line
> > > > > protocol down.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> >attached
> > > >to
> > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
> when
> >it
> > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
> >the
> > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable
the
> > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
> >although
> > > >the
> > > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> > > >down..any
> > > > > > help appreciated
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I'm looking for a real answer from experience, not documentation. That page 
you sent me was something I helped write ;-)

Priscilla

At 06:53 PM 4/26/01, David Chandler wrote:
>Found some info:
>
>Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been activated.
>Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
>sends out.
>
>YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...
>
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm
>
>Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
>in a little more detail.
>
>DaveC
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good answer.
> >
> > Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the interface
> > up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface
> > ethernet,
> >
> > Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> >
> > How about RJ45?
> >
> > How about MII?
> >
> > GMII?
> >
> > Others?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
>still
> > >up,
> > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down
>and
> > >line
> > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> > >attached
> > > > >to
> > > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
> > when
> > >it
> > > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface
configuration,
> > >the
> > > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable
>the
> > > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
> > >although
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port
will
> > > > >down..any
> > > > > > > help appreciated
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tq
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 07:08 PM 4/26/01, Tony van Ree wrote:
>Hi,
>
>True!! Only 100Meg in and 100Meg out but on a 100Meg Half duplex connection
>at best you get less than 50Meg.  You must listen to your own signal
>anything over 50% in one direction is pure rubbish.  In reality over 30% of
>the specified bandwidth you are probably already retransmitting heaps.

And that is pure rubbish. See this URL:

http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/publications/abstracts/88.4.html


>I therefore disagree that there is no significant difference in network
>performance.  However, the ability of the server and or the network cards
>ability to pull data off the network and deliver it to the server is a
>different matter.  A good example is from back in the old days with an 8bit
>10Meg Half duplex card into a I386 a real speed of 280K was more the
reality.
>
>Just some thoughts.
>
>Teunis,
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Australia
>On Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 03:14:50 PM, David Chandler wrote:
>
> > hey! somebody gets it! Thanks Priscilla:
> >
> > It always bothers me that full-duplex is refereed to as 200 meg.  The
> > server folks always think that all their performance issues will go away
> > when they go to "full-duplex".  Sure, no collision, but considering the
> > unbalanced nature of client/server traffic it doesn't make that big of a
> > throughput difference.
> >
> > I'm surprised that my T1's are not referred to as 3 mbps links. They are
> > full-duplex too   :->
> >
> > DaveC
> >
> >  Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > At 12:23 AM 4/26/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > >if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health checkup.
> > > >another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get
>100meg
> > > >for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?
> > >
> > > Each of the two stations on a point-to-point FE full-duplex link get
> > > dedicated 100 Mbps bandwidth for transmitting. One station's transmit
> > > medium is the other's receive medium. Some people call this 200 Mbps.
In
> > > actuality most traffic types don't take advantage of this.
> > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:07 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet
>report
> > > > > that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems
to
> > > just
> > > > > be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
> > still
> > > >up,
> > > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same
to
> > > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut
down
> > and
> > > >line
> > > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> > > >attached
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive
signal,
> > > when
> > > >it
> > > > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface
>configuration,
> > > >the
> > > > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to
enable
> > the
> > > > > &g

Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Priscilla, that's a fascinating report - I don't suppose you know of any
more recent work along the same lines?

I was interested to note that maximum throughput happens with two hosts.
Gee whiz!  A switch connection :-)

JMcL
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04:12 pm ---


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11:18:45 am

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At 07:08 PM 4/26/01, Tony van Ree wrote:
>Hi,
>
>True!! Only 100Meg in and 100Meg out but on a 100Meg Half duplex
connection
>at best you get less than 50Meg.  You must listen to your own signal
>anything over 50% in one direction is pure rubbish.  In reality over 30%
of
>the specified bandwidth you are probably already retransmitting heaps.

And that is pure rubbish. See this URL:

http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/publications/abstracts/88.4.html


>I therefore disagree that there is no significant difference in network
>performance.  However, the ability of the server and or the network cards
>ability to pull data off the network and deliver it to the server is a
>different matter.  A good example is from back in the old days with an
8bit
>10Meg Half duplex card into a I386 a real speed of 280K was more the
reality.
>
>Just some thoughts.
>
>Teunis,
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Australia
>On Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 03:14:50 PM, David Chandler wrote:
>
> > hey! somebody gets it! Thanks Priscilla:
> >
> > It always bothers me that full-duplex is refereed to as 200 meg.  The
> > server folks always think that all their performance issues will go
away
> > when they go to "full-duplex".  Sure, no collision, but considering the
> > unbalanced nature of client/server traffic it doesn't make that big of
a
> > throughput difference.
> >
> > I'm surprised that my T1's are not referred to as 3 mbps links. They
are
> > full-duplex too   :->
> >
> > DaveC
> >
> >  Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > At 12:23 AM 4/26/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > >if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health
checkup.
> > > >another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get
>100meg
> > > >for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?
> > >
> > > Each of the two stations on a point-to-point FE full-duplex link get
> > > dedicated 100 Mbps bandwidth for transmitting. One station's transmit
> > > medium is the other's receive medium. Some people call this 200 Mbps.
In
> > > actuality most traffic types don't take advantage of this.
> > >
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Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-27 Thread David Chandler

Sorry if it sounded like I was guessing.. :-}

Played with issue again last night.  Every time that I have seen UP/Down
the cable was detached etc.  We install/move/remove a lot of equipment
and it is always up/down...  

The line protocol is dependent on the keepalives. Just try a "no keep"
on the interface and UP/UP it will go.

Ran tests on:
2500 AUI
2600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
3600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
4500 100M RJ45 & MII(half & full duplex)
7200 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
7200 100M RJ45  (half & full duplex)
7200 100M MII (Believe I did this too but can not remember)
unfortunately the 7500s with Gig & FE MMF ports are being used for spare
parts @tt.

In all cases if keepalives are disabled, the line protocol is up.  If
not up/down.

Sniffer shows the keepalive frames as having the same source and
destination mac address.  Ethernet type 9000 "LOOP" frame. 

I would like to attach the interfaces to the switch, and filter
keepalives out.  Maybe [set port protocol slot/mod group off]. I doubt
if that will work, but will try and find out.

PS: it is a nice document & so is the digital research paper.

DaveC


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a real answer from experience, not documentation. That page
> you sent me was something I helped write ;-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 06:53 PM 4/26/01, David Chandler wrote:
> >Found some info:
> >
> >Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been activated.
> >Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
> >sends out.
> >
> >YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...
> >
> >
> >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm
> >
> >Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
> >in a little more detail.
> >
> >DaveC
> >
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good
answer.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the
interface
> > > up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface
> > > ethernet,
> > >
> > > Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> > >
> > > How about RJ45?
> > >
> > > How about MII?
> > >
> > > GMII?
> > >
> > > Others?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE
> >still
> > > >up,
> > > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same
to
> > > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut
down
> >and
> > > >line
> > > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2)    Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
> > > >attached
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive
signal,
> > > when
> > > >it
> > > > > > > detected, it will
> > > > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface
> configuration,
> > > >the
> > > > > > > ethernet interface
> > > > > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to
enable
> >the
> > > > > > > interface, of courese.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this help
> > > > > > > Vincent Chong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >

Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:30 PM 4/27/01, you wrote:
>I know of one instance Priscilla,
>"no keepalives" configured on the interface will do an Up, Down.  I little
>trick I learned doing labs.
>Tony M
>#6172

What I'm trying to find out is in what cases Cisco says that the interface 
is up even though there is no cable attached. I'm not concerned about the 
line protocol. I'm not asking about the second result or keepalives.

My routers have an AUI interface. Cisco says the interface is up even when 
there is no cable attached.

I don't have a router with an RJ-45 interface, MII, GMII, etc. (lame, I 
know! ;-) Do you? Could you check? Does it say up even if there is no cable 
attached?

The original poster said that his FE says up, down with no cable attached. 
Which kind of interface was it?

Just trying to document this with more exact details than Cisco 
documentation. It seems to me that with some types of interfaces, it should 
or could be smarter. Perhaps it's consistent across interfaces and that's 
why I haven't gotten an answer, but I am still searching. Not getting a 
real answer is making me down, down.

Priscilla



>-Original Message-
>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Date: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:27 PM
>Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
>
>
> >I'm looking for a real answer from experience, not documentation. That
page
> >you sent me was something I helped write ;-)
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 06:53 PM 4/26/01, David Chandler wrote:
> >>Found some info:
> >>
> >>Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been activated.
> >>Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
> >>sends out.
> >>
> >>YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...
> >>
> >>
> >>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm
> >>
> >>Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
> >>in a little more detail.
> >>
> >>DaveC
> >>
> >>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good
>answer.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the
>interface
> >> > up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show interface
> >> > ethernet,
> >> >
> >> > Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> >> >
> >> > How about RJ45?
> >> >
> >> > How about MII?
> >> >
> >> > GMII?
> >> >
> >> > Others?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Priscilla
> >> >
> >> > > > Priscilla
> >> > > >
> >> > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> >> > > > >thanks for the answer...
> >> > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why
FE
> >>still
> >> > >up,
> >> > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same
>to
> >> > > > >Ethernet..?
> >> > > > >- Original Message -
> >> > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> >> > > > >To:
> >> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> >> > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> >> > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut
>down
> >>and
> >> > >line
> >> > > > > > protocol down.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal
connection
> >> > >attached
> >> > > > >to
> >> > > > > > Fastethernet.
> >> > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive
>signal,
> >> > when
> >> > >it
> >> > > > > > detected, it will
> >> > > > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface
> >configuration,
> >> > >the
> >> > > > > > ethernet interface

Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

THANKS! Please ignore my other message that said I was down, down because I 
didn't have a real answer yet. You are terrific!

Priscilla

At 10:10 AM 4/27/01, you wrote:
>Sorry if it sounded like I was guessing.. :-}
>
>Played with issue again last night.  Every time that I have seen UP/Down
>the cable was detached etc.  We install/move/remove a lot of equipment
>and it is always up/down...
>
>The line protocol is dependent on the keepalives. Just try a "no keep"
>on the interface and UP/UP it will go.
>
>Ran tests on:
>2500 AUI
>2600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>3600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>4500 100M RJ45 & MII(half & full duplex)
>7200 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>7200 100M RJ45  (half & full duplex)
>7200 100M MII (Believe I did this too but can not remember)
>unfortunately the 7500s with Gig & FE MMF ports are being used for spare
>parts @tt.
>
>In all cases if keepalives are disabled, the line protocol is up.  If
>not up/down.
>
>Sniffer shows the keepalive frames as having the same source and
>destination mac address.  Ethernet type 9000 "LOOP" frame.
>
>I would like to attach the interfaces to the switch, and filter
>keepalives out.  Maybe [set port protocol slot/mod group off]. I doubt
>if that will work, but will try and find out.
>
>PS: it is a nice document & so is the digital research paper.
>
>DaveC
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a real answer from experience, not documentation. That
page
> > you sent me was something I helped write!!!! ;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 06:53 PM 4/26/01, David Chandler wrote:
> > >Found some info:
> > >
> > >Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been activated.
> > >Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
> > >sends out.
> > >
> > >YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm
> > >
> > >Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
> > >in a little more detail.
> > >
> > >DaveC
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good
>answer.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the
>interface
> > > > up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show
interface
> > > > ethernet,
> > > >
> > > > Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> > > >
> > > > How about RJ45?
> > > >
> > > > How about MII?
> > > >
> > > > GMII?
> > > >
> > > > Others?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > > > Priscilla
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why
FE
> > >still
> > > > >up,
> > > > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same
>to
> > > > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the
running
> > > > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut
>down
> > >and
> > > > >line
> > > > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal
connection
> > > > >attached
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > > > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive
>signal,
> > > > when
> > 

RE: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-27 Thread Quinton Clark

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Quinton Clark
Internet Systems Engineer
Exodus Internet
Tel : 0808 100 3963
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-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]


THANKS! Please ignore my other message that said I was down, down because I 
didn't have a real answer yet. You are terrific!

Priscilla

At 10:10 AM 4/27/01, you wrote:
>Sorry if it sounded like I was guessing.. :-}
>
>Played with issue again last night.  Every time that I have seen UP/Down
>the cable was detached etc.  We install/move/remove a lot of equipment
>and it is always up/down...
>
>The line protocol is dependent on the keepalives. Just try a "no keep"
>on the interface and UP/UP it will go.
>
>Ran tests on:
>2500 AUI
>2600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>3600 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>4500 100M RJ45 & MII(half & full duplex)
>7200 10M RJ45   (half & full duplex)
>7200 100M RJ45  (half & full duplex)
>7200 100M MII (Believe I did this too but can not remember)
>unfortunately the 7500s with Gig & FE MMF ports are being used for spare
>parts @tt.
>
>In all cases if keepalives are disabled, the line protocol is up.  If
>not up/down.
>
>Sniffer shows the keepalive frames as having the same source and
>destination mac address.  Ethernet type 9000 "LOOP" frame.
>
>I would like to attach the interfaces to the switch, and filter
>keepalives out.  Maybe [set port protocol slot/mod group off]. I doubt
>if that will work, but will try and find out.
>
>PS: it is a nice document & so is the digital research paper.
>
>DaveC
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a real answer from experience, not documentation. That
page
> > you sent me was something I helped write!!!! ;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 06:53 PM 4/26/01, David Chandler wrote:
> > >Found some info:
> > >
> > >Interface is UP: means the routers ethernet hardware has been
activated.
> > >Line Protocol Down: The router never sees any of the keepalives that it
> > >sends out.
> > >
> > >YES: you'll get the same thing with RJ45...
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1904.htm
> > >
> > >Search for: "show interfaces ethernet Field Descriptions" it'll explain
> > >in a little more detail.
> > >
> > >DaveC
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I tried to do some more research on this and couldn't get a good
>answer.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know exactly in which cases the router reports the
>interface
> > > > up, down even if there is no cable attached? Looking at show
interface
> > > > ethernet,
> > > >
> > > > Router reports up, down with no cable for AUI.
> > > >
> > > > How about RJ45?
> > > >
> > > > How about MII?
> > > >
> > > > GMII?
> > > >
> > > > Others?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > > > Priscilla
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > > > > > >thanks for the answer...
> > > > > > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why
FE
> > >still
> > > > >up,
> > > > > > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the
same
>to
> > > > > > >Ethernet..?
> > > > > > >- Original Message -
> > > > > > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the
running
> > > > > > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > > > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut
>down
> > >and
> > > > >line
> > > > > > > > protocol down.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2)Line protocol w

Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]

2001-04-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:23 AM 4/26/01, md. nazri wrote:
>if it's true..that's a good indicator for hardware health checkup.
>another Q, if we set the FE to be full-duplex, does it mean we get 100meg
>for tx and 100meg for rx, so total 200meg for a connection...?

Each of the two stations on a point-to-point FE full-duplex link get 
dedicated 100 Mbps bandwidth for transmitting. One station's transmit 
medium is the other's receive medium. Some people call this 200 Mbps. In 
actuality most traffic types don't take advantage of this.

>- Original Message -
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:07 AM
>Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
>
>
> > I don't think it's just Fast Ethernet. I've seen "Slow" Ethernet report
> > that the interface is up, down when nothing was attached. It seems to
just
> > be an indication that the interface passed a hardware check.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 08:21 PM 4/25/01, md. nazri wrote:
> > >thanks for the answer...
> > >i understand that LP will down if no connection attach, but why FE still
>up,
> > >does it up forever until we shut it down? Does it apply the same to
> > >Ethernet..?
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Vincent Chong"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down [7:1828]
> > >
> > >
> > > > 1) I guess you enable the fastethernet port in the running
> > > > configuration.  You have to
> > > > shutdown the port, so the port will administrative shut down and
>line
> > > > protocol down.
> > > >
> > > > 2)Line protocol will up if there is any phyiscal connection
>attached
> > >to
> > > > Fastethernet.
> > > > Becasue the port in your router will detect keepalive signal,
when
>it
> > > > detected, it will
> > > > up.You can type no keepalive under interface configuration,
>the
> > > > ethernet interface
> > > > will keep up even no physical connection. You have to enable the
> > > > interface, of courese.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this help
> > > > Vincent Chong
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""md. nazri""   hi all,
> > > > > got one question regarding FastEthernet on Cisco 2620..
> > > > > why the status showed FastEthernet is up, Line protocol down
>although
> > >the
> > > > > cable was pulled out from the port...in what cases the port will
> > >down..any
> > > > > help appreciated
> > > > >
> > > > > tq
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Thanks for the Archives (was to be-E0 line protocol down)

2001-02-23 Thread Matt Wehland

Thank you for the archives.

I was just playing with my new 2501 and was having a problem with the line 
protocol being down.  Looked through my books, looked on Cisco's site, 
couldn't find the answer (I'm sure it's on Cisco's site I just couldn't 
find it).
Wrote a message asking for help, but before sending, I remembered the 
archives.  Can't ask for help without trying there, can I?
Searched on 'line protocol down' and found my answer in about the fourth 
message I viewed.  'no keepalives'. Doh!

So this message is just a thank you and a reminder to check the archives 
before posting for help, the answer may already be in there.

Matt Wehland

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