[CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
I have installed AVG free on my computer and my wife's computer. Several days ago, I saw a prompt similar to what you see when Windows installs a critical update, saying that I had received an update and would need to restart the computer to complete installation. The prompt had an AVG logo, so I went ahead and clicked OK. Within the subsequent time frame (without necessarily inferring causality) I have started to experience random hang ups unlike anything I've seen before. Sometimes the login page itself freezes (so that it doesn't respond to a user prompt). Sometimes login works but it never gets to the desktop (it freezes at the personal settings message). Sometimes I can log all the way in and use applications, then unpredictably it will freeze at a later time. When it freezes, I can still move the mouse cursor, and some desktop widgets seem to respond to an extent, but it is impossible to bring up the task manager, so I can't look for suspicious processes. My wife apparently got the same sort of prompt (although she doesn't specifically recall seeing the AVG logo), but her computer seems unaffected. Does anybody know if the AVG update prompt was legitimate? It seems to me that if this was an actual attack, work would have spread by now (I haven't heard anything about it). I am suspicious because I haven't experienced AVG presenting this type of prompt in the past, that I can recall. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: I have installed AVG free on my computer and my wife's computer. Several days ago, I saw a prompt similar to what you see when Windows installs a critical update, saying that I had received an update and would need to restart the computer to complete installation. The prompt had an AVG logo, so I went ahead and clicked OK. Many folks say that any automated updates downloaded without your knowledge, input or permission to have been initiated are a bad idea. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
On 3/15/10, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: ... Several days ago, I saw a prompt similar to what you see when Windows installs a critical update, saying that I had received an update and would need to restart the computer to complete installation. The prompt had an AVG logo, so I went ahead and clicked OK. Many folks say that any automated updates downloaded without your knowledge, input or permission to have been initiated are a bad idea. Steve No argument, but in this case, do you think the update was legitimate (actually originating with AVG, etc.)? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote: No argument, but in this case, do you think the update was legitimate (actually originating with AVG, etc.)? Dunno. That is sometimes the question one is left with after an auto-update. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
Who knows. These days I use and recommend MS Security Essentials. It too has to update occasionally, but it's nowhere near as annoying as any of the other free AVs that try to use the occasion for advertising. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: I have installed AVG free on my computer and my wife's computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
At 12:40 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: Does anybody know if the AVG update prompt was legitimate? It seems to me that if this was an actual attack, work would have spread by now (I haven't heard anything about it). I am suspicious because I haven't experienced AVG presenting this type of prompt in the past, that I can recall. I got that msg. I didn't restart immediately, but turned off the computer at night. Everything seemed fine the next morning. I've had no trouble with anything since. Must admit I don't get restart notices very often from AVG, since moving up to Win7. I used to get them all the time on XP. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
I use avast ...it works fine ...no ads ...updates are unobtrusive, but the voice that announces it was annoying so I edited the .wav file to keep just the ding and it works great... -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM Subject: Re: AVG free update attack? Who knows. These days I use and recommend MS Security Essentials. It too has to update occasionally, but it's nowhere near as annoying as any of the other free AVs that try to use the occasion for advertising. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: I have installed AVG free on my computer and my wife's computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
Upgrade to the new version and it has a pleasant voice, plus the registration is easy, right in the program, no longer need to go to web and have them email you number. Still the same nice price, FREE. Stewart At 07:02 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: I use avast ...it works fine ...no ads ...updates are unobtrusive, but the voice that announces it was annoying so I edited the .wav file to keep just the ding and it works great... -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM Subject: Re: AVG free update attack? Who knows. These days I use and recommend MS Security Essentials. It too has to update occasionally, but it's nowhere near as annoying as any of the other free AVs that try to use the occasion for advertising. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: I have installed AVG free on my computer and my wife's computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe
AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe during today's scan. It found it in a junk file where I put all of the programs that came with the computer that I don't intend on using. It also found it in an Application Data folder. AVG says it is a Trojan horse SHeur2.AGFP Does anyone know if this is a false positive or is it something to get rid of? Thanks in advance. WinXP, SP3 Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe
AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe during today's scan. It found it in a junk file where I put all of the programs that came with the computer that I don't intend on using. It also found it in an Application Data folder. AVG says it is a Trojan horse SHeur2.AGFP Does anyone know if this is a false positive or is it something to get rid of? False positive. It's a utility that's supposed to scan your drivers and download updates if necessary. Never used it, so I don't know if it's any good, but it's not malware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe
Thanks for the feedback. To my knowledge, I've never used it either. It is a comfort to know that it is not going to take over my machine in the middle of the night and make life a living . Richard P. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: AVG found Touchstone Software driveragent_488.exe during today's scan. It found it in a junk file where I put all of the programs that came with the computer that I don't intend on using. It also found it in an Application Data folder. AVG says it is a Trojan horse SHeur2.AGFP Does anyone know if this is a false positive or is it something to get rid of? False positive. It's a utility that's supposed to scan your drivers and download updates if necessary. Never used it, so I don't know if it's any good, but it's not malware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] AVG updates.
At the risk of turning this list into a computer discussion list, I have a question about AVG updates. Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). I just tried to manually update and it was crawling along at 25-30 *bytes* per second before it failed. Minutes later iTunes was updating at about 1MB/sec. Is it just me? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
One of my computers (running XP) tries to update, but I get a message control (something) incorrect. A half dozen other machines running Win98SE and XP have no problem. I am just going to re-install AVG on that machine and see if that helps. Mike katan wrote: At the risk of turning this list into a computer discussion list, I have a question about AVG updates. Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). I just tried to manually update and it was crawling along at 25-30 *bytes* per second before it failed. Minutes later iTunes was updating at about 1MB/sec. Is it just me? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
I'm having no problems with mine, both v. 8. You might want to check your DNS settings; I had a DNS hijacked not too long ago which kept me from being able to update the AVG. Ellen Harris - Original Message - From: katan ka...@his.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [CGUYS] AVG updates. At the risk of turning this list into a computer discussion list, I have a question about AVG updates. Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). I just tried to manually update and it was crawling along at 25-30 *bytes* per second before it failed. Minutes later iTunes was updating at about 1MB/sec. Is it just me? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
I have AVG (free) running on two win xp computers. What seems to happen regularly on my systems is that AVG attempts to update and fails. Then when I click manual update it updates fine. I've just chalked it up to a quirk in the program, it is free after all. Charlie katan wrote: pre wrapAt the risk of turning this list into a computer discussion list, I have a question about AVG updates. Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). I just tried to manually update and it was crawling along at 25-30 *bytes* per second before it failed. Minutes later iTunes was updating at about 1MB/sec. Is it just me? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * /pre/body /html /html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
I have a question about AVG updates. Mine doesn't. Now the MS has vanquished the last computer virus there is no need for updates. Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). You may have DNS problems. Have you tried switching to OpenDNS or is you already are switch to yur IPS's DNS. Have you been hacking your hosts file? That could break things. Could be that your software is pointed at a server that is having trouble. That would be internally stored information. Have you tried downloading a fresh copy and reinstalling? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:42:12 -0500, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: I'm having no problems with mine, both v. 8. You might want to check your DNS settings; I had a DNS hijacked not too long ago which kept me from being able to update the AVG. I switched to OpenDNS on the dual boot. I'll see what happens. Actually, I subsequently did a manual update that sailed through (prior to the DNS switch). It's inconsistent. I think I need to reinstall AVG on the XP half of my dual boot anyway. Auto updates don't want to stick. No matter how many times I turn it on, it keeps turning off. I even used TrendMicro's online virus scanner to see if there was a virus turning it off. -- R:\katan Tea. . .Earl Grey. . .Hot * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:29:40 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote: Mine doesn't. I've got three computers (one dual booting XP/Win7) with AVG and all set to auto-update, and they've all been failing (Connection failed). It shouldn't be my Internet connection, because they're at two different locations (the dual boot at both). You may have DNS problems. Have you tried switching to OpenDNS or is you already are switch to yur IPS's DNS. Just changed over. I'll see what happens. Not sure what DNS server I was using. Probably Comcast. Have you been hacking your hosts file? That could break things. Nope. Could be that your software is pointed at a server that is having trouble. That would be internally stored information. Have you tried downloading a fresh copy and reinstalling? Might wind up doing that. . .at least once. Auto-updates won't stick on the XP half of my dual boot. -- R:\katan Tea. . .Earl Grey. . .Hot * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG updates.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:12:02 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote: I think I need to reinstall AVG on the XP half of my dual boot anyway. I always tell folks to avoid dual boot configs. Drives are cheap and two drives is the easiest way to make sure things don't get out of control. That may be so, but my laptop doesn't have another drive bay. (-: -- R:\katan Tea. . .Earl Grey. . .Hot * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] avg
i had 7.5 on the last computer. now all i can find is 8.0. i have heard that 8.0 comes with a lot of baggage. can the baggage be avoided. have vista OS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] avg
i had 7.5 on the last computer. now all i can find is 8.0. i have heard that 8.0 comes with a lot of baggage. can the baggage be avoided. have vista OS. I use 8.0 on Vista and have no trouble. Not sure what the baggage is supposed to be, but no bellboy has shown up to get it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] avg
No baggage here either with 8.0. My only issue is it slows the compuer down when scanning so I let it scan when I'm not using the computer. FYI, 7.5 is no longer supported. This from AVG forum: AVG 7.5 Free - Support ends 31/08/2008 Posted by: michaelhd - AVG Team (IP Logged) Date: July 9, 2008 04:07PM Support for AVG 7.5 Free Edition is planned to end on 31st August 2008. No more virus updates are planned for after that date. Note that no more 'program' updates are due! Only virus updates will continue until the end date. AVG 7.5 Paid version will be supported until 31/12/08. Richard P. i had 7.5 on the last computer. now all i can find is 8.0. i have heard that 8.0 comes with a lot of baggage. can the baggage be avoided. have vista OS. I use 8.0 on Vista and have no trouble. Not sure what the baggage is supposed to be, but no bellboy has shown up to get it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] AVG Error
Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Error
I installed AVG Free 8.0 new on a rebuilt machine, and it took three tries for the update to work. It finally did but it took a while. Mike Richard P. wrote: Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Error
I just checked again and it finally went through OK. It's been down since 10:00AM. Thanks for the verification. I was getting concerned that it was internal. Richard P. Steve at Verizon wrote: Yes. Mine went through several iterations of installing updates with the last one requesting a reboot. Did so, and seems to be working well now. Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Error
Sounds like too many people trying to upgrade / update all at once and overloading the server. At 12:56 PM 7/3/2008, Richard P. wrote: I just checked again and it finally went through OK. It's been down since 10:00AM. Thanks for the verification. I was getting concerned that it was internal. Richard P. Steve at Verizon wrote: Yes. Mine went through several iterations of installing updates with the last one requesting a reboot. Did so, and seems to be working well now. Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Error
i still use 7.5, and it visits me automattically. At 01:24 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: Sounds like too many people trying to upgrade / update all at once and overloading the server. At 12:56 PM 7/3/2008, Richard P. wrote: I just checked again and it finally went through OK. It's been down since 10:00AM. Thanks for the verification. I was getting concerned that it was internal. Richard P. Steve at Verizon wrote: Yes. Mine went through several iterations of installing updates with the last one requesting a reboot. Did so, and seems to be working well now. Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Error
I think it's rather that your computer phones home automatically and finds out if there is anything new. If so, it downloads and installs it automatically. Fred Holmes At 02:05 PM 7/3/2008, gerald wrote: i still use 7.5, and it visits me automattically. At 01:24 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: Sounds like too many people trying to upgrade / update all at once and overloading the server. At 12:56 PM 7/3/2008, Richard P. wrote: I just checked again and it finally went through OK. It's been down since 10:00AM. Thanks for the verification. I was getting concerned that it was internal. Richard P. Steve at Verizon wrote: Yes. Mine went through several iterations of installing updates with the last one requesting a reboot. Did so, and seems to be working well now. Anyone else having trouble with updating AVG Free this morning? I am, as is a relative 1000 miles away. Just looking for verification. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
Am I mistaken or is there only free antivirus from AVG? That doesn't seem to cover most of the problems out there depending on how AVG classifies problems. I haven't seen many true viruses in years. One of the reasons I switched to the free avast when I installed vista 64. I hadn't run antivirus for years, but my unfamiliarity with vista made me think I might want one for a little while. Mike On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One problem I have noticed is that if you upgrade to v. 8 directly from v. 7.5, I've seen, twice now, desktops not loading as a result; you just sit there with a background and no icons. Manually uninstalling 7.5 and then installing 8 doesn't have this problem so far. I've had to do system restores to fix it. -Original Message- I had a program update on 7.5 this week, and my computer is now booting far faster than it has been since the previous update. I recall this happening a few times before (I've been using Free AVG for several years). After some program updates, my machine was slow to boot. Then the next update seemed to fix some problem and booting would appear to go back to normal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
AVG Free 8.x does have an Anti-Spyware component with its Anti-Virus. I don't don't how comprehensive it is as I supplement my system with Webroot's Spy Sweeper. I do know that AVG 8.x scans for and finds a lot more things than 7.x. Richard P. mike wrote: Am I mistaken or is there only free antivirus from AVG? That doesn't seem to cover most of the problems out there depending on how AVG classifies problems. I haven't seen many true viruses in years. One of the reasons I switched to the free avast when I installed vista 64. I hadn't run antivirus for years, but my unfamiliarity with vista made me think I might want one for a little while. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
-Original Message- Thought I received message at end of May that AVG free was ending as of June 1 and needed to upgrade to presumably paid version. Was away and didn't do anything, but still seems to be running as far as I can tell. Anyone else heard about this? This is a common misconception based on AVG trying to (understandably) drive people to their paid version. You can still d/l and use the new, free version at the same website as ever: free.grisosft.com After reading this thread, wondering if AVG might be what is slowing down my browsing, mainly on FireFox, but probably also some on IE? I haven't noticed anything like that. The new version inserts security ratings after every Google search result, but it's as quick as ever. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
At 04:53 PM 06/05/2008 -0400, Ranbo wrote After reading this thread, wondering if AVG might be what is slowing down my browsing, mainly on FireFox, but probably also some on IE? I had a program update on 7.5 this week, and my computer is now booting far faster than it has been since the previous update. I recall this happening a few times before (I've been using Free AVG for several years). After some program updates, my machine was slow to boot. Then the next update seemed to fix some problem and booting would appear to go back to normal. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
One problem I have noticed is that if you upgrade to v. 8 directly from v. 7.5, I've seen, twice now, desktops not loading as a result; you just sit there with a background and no icons. Manually uninstalling 7.5 and then installing 8 doesn't have this problem so far. I've had to do system restores to fix it. -Original Message- I had a program update on 7.5 this week, and my computer is now booting far faster than it has been since the previous update. I recall this happening a few times before (I've been using Free AVG for several years). After some program updates, my machine was slow to boot. Then the next update seemed to fix some problem and booting would appear to go back to normal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
Thought I received message at end of May that AVG free was ending as of June 1 and needed to upgrade to presumably paid version. Was away and didn't do anything, but still seems to be running as far as I can tell. Anyone else heard about this? After reading this thread, wondering if AVG might be what is slowing down my browsing, mainly on FireFox, but probably also some on IE? Thanks Randall On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, John Duncan Yoyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three apps may deal with things better than one swiss army program. I have all three on a swiss army knife but I would rather own a screwdriver, a kitchen knife and a can opener. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:31 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True...but why use three instead of one? Why shouldn't one app deal with it? Mike On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true, but there's only so much a program can do to protect you from all malware. Use anything but IE6, immunize with Spybot, and always use DropMyRights and there's no need for your AV app to deal with that stuff. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at AVG free but it only includes anti virusit seems to me there are very little true viruses left out there and that most are malware, adware...spyware etc. I switched to Avast free because it includes all of the above. If AVG is going to split hairs between viruses and spyware, where are they starting and stopping in protecting users? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
I have not had AVG8 reboot my computer since I installed it last month. Change your settings... have AVG scan at the end of the day, not on reboot. DON'T reboot when it asks. Finish your work and then reboot when you go to lunch. A greyed out AVG icon just means that the latest version is not yet installed... you are still protected from over 100,000 viruses and worms! Your ISP is likely scanning your incomming email for viruses, so your risk is very small. - Original Message - From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
Three apps may deal with things better than one swiss army program. I have all three on a swiss army knife but I would rather own a screwdriver, a kitchen knife and a can opener. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:31 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True...but why use three instead of one? Why shouldn't one app deal with it? Mike On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true, but there's only so much a program can do to protect you from all malware. Use anything but IE6, immunize with Spybot, and always use DropMyRights and there's no need for your AV app to deal with that stuff. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at AVG free but it only includes anti virusit seems to me there are very little true viruses left out there and that most are malware, adware...spyware etc. I switched to Avast free because it includes all of the above. If AVG is going to split hairs between viruses and spyware, where are they starting and stopping in protecting users? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG
That sounds like McAfee's Site Advisor. It's a plug-in for IE and FF (and I presume other browsers) that rates a page. McAfee has a free version and of course, a paid-for version. What I like about Site Advisor is the more info link presenting a detailed report explaining why the site is being rated poorly. For example, they will subscribe to the site using a honey-pot address and then monitor what happens. If they get a lot of spam, they report it. They scan downloads for malware. They follow links and downgrade sites that link to sites with poor ratings. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] AVG
My In-laws are getting a popup message from AVG that 7.5 is going obsolete and they should update to 8.0 (which of course is for pay). Any reason they can't keep using the free version? Should they download the latest version of whatever's free? -PJM Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG
At 05:22 PM 05/06/2008 -0400, Richard P. wrote Have them upgrade to AVG Free 8.0. AVG puts this warning up every time they do a major upgrade. The links they provide tend to steer you toward the pay product but you can find the free version if you dig around a bit. I upgraded this afternoon. The only problem I had was installing their optional AVG Security Toolbar which includes its mandatory Yahoo toolbar. While I don't mind using Yahoo as a search engine, with this new version, I have yet to find a way to delete its search history. I ended up modifying the installation to lose the toolbars and just keep AVG. For them, just un-check it during the setup. Here's a direct link: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download?prd=afe Richard P. Like we NEED toolbars??? Thanks for the warning. I've still not gotten a pop-up warning from AVG. I assume I will at some point. Either that or I'll find out when it won't download virus updates. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG
New info about AVG 8.0: It does come with a neat feature which rates webpages generated by search engines as to their safety rating (doesn't work with their installed Yahoo toolbar though). Not sure how they come up with this or how accurate it is, but it does present a certain comfort level when guessing at whether one should click or not. Richard P. Have them upgrade to AVG Free 8.0. AVG puts this warning up every time they do a major upgrade. The links they provide tend to steer you toward the pay product but you can find the free version if you dig around a bit. I upgraded this afternoon. The only problem I had was installing their optional AVG Security Toolbar which includes its mandatory Yahoo toolbar. While I don't mind using Yahoo as a search engine, with this new version, I have yet to find a way to delete its search history. I ended up modifying the installation to lose the toolbars and just keep AVG. For them, just un-check it during the setup. Here's a direct link: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download?prd=afe My In-laws are getting a popup message from AVG that 7.5 is going obsolete and they should update to 8.0 (which of course is for pay). Any reason they can't keep using the free version? Should they download the latest version of whatever's free? -PJM * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Anti-Rootkit
I have. Nothing found, so nothing to report. You have to invoke a scan manually and check for updates, though it doesn't seem as there have been any in the past year or so. Take a look at Threatfire (free): http://www.threatfire.com/ It looks to be a better product for blocking rootkits and the like. -Original Message- Has anyone tried out AVG's Anti-Rootkit tool? Comments please. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] AVG Anti-Rootkit
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Re: [CGUYS] AVG Trojan Detected?
After looking into it, I see that AVG uses virus signatures as well as Heuristic Analysis. All definitions are up to date and have been updated daily and scans done daily since computer was new. Richard P. Mike Sloane wrote: To my knowledge, Panda is heuristic, but AVG depends on daily downloads of specific virus signatures. If your AVG definitions are out of date, it will not detect a brand new offender, whereas Panda's design (claims to) detect viruses by their behavior. Mike This morning, AVG scan found what it says is a trojan horse downloader. When I asked for more details, it said it didn't exist in its database. I went ahead and healed it but wonder what it is and whether or not it is a false positive. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Trojan Detected?
In going back and checking the logs I saw that yesterday, AVG also found
what it says was a Trojan horse in:
C:\Program Files\music_now\inetchk.exe and deleted it. I was able to
search and see that MusicNow is part of AOL (I never installed AOL but
is probably sitting on the computer as part of a preloaded program). If
it has to do with AOL, it probably would be seen as a hazard but I'm
just guessing.
I don't know how AVG does it's detection process.
Richard P.
Does AVG detect virus based on a heuristic model where it finds Virus
like behaviors. It may not know which virus it is but it knows it is
acting like a virus.
I believe that NOD32 and Blink find things this way as well as by definitions.
wrote:
This morning, AVG scan found what it says is a trojan horse downloader.
When I asked for more details, it said it didn't exist in its database.
I went ahead and healed it but wonder what it is and whether or not it
is a false positive.
Details:
AVG Free Edition Resident Shield
Threat Detected!
While opening file:
C:\System Volume
Information\_restore{106CF321-99A3-4E3A-9103-1BD027606A99}\RP47\A0014445.exe
Trojan horse Downloader.VB.AXO
It also found a change, file: shell32.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll
I haven't been able to find any real info on the trojan. Any input will
be greatly appreciated.
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[CGUYS] AVG Trojan Detected?
This morning, AVG scan found what it says is a trojan horse downloader.
When I asked for more details, it said it didn't exist in its database.
I went ahead and healed it but wonder what it is and whether or not it
is a false positive.
Details:
AVG Free Edition Resident Shield
Threat Detected!
While opening file:
C:\System Volume
Information\_restore{106CF321-99A3-4E3A-9103-1BD027606A99}\RP47\A0014445.exe
Trojan horse Downloader.VB.AXO
It also found a change, file: shell32.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll
I haven't been able to find any real info on the trojan. Any input will
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Richard P.
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Re: [CGUYS] AVG Trojan Detected?
To my knowledge, Panda is heuristic, but AVG depends on daily downloads of specific virus signatures. If your AVG definitions are out of date, it will not detect a brand new offender, whereas Panda's design (claims to) detect viruses by their behavior. Mike Richard P. wrote: This morning, AVG scan found what it says is a trojan horse downloader. When I asked for more details, it said it didn't exist in its database. I went ahead and healed it but wonder what it is and whether or not it is a false positive. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] AVG Trojan Detected?
Run all the free online virus checkers you can find. http://www.google.com/search?source=ighl=enrlz=q=free+online+virus Call me paranoid, but at least once I've just reinstalled Windows rather than deal with possible trojans. I do a lot of important stuff from this machine. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
