Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
On Tue Nov 18 17:44 +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: The following looks like a menu entry: +{N_(/Playback/Set A-B), A, mainwin_general_menu_callback, MAINWIN_GENERAL_SETAB, Item}, I assumed this was tooltip'able, while I'm not sure of that, of course. I don't think GTK+'s tooltips can be used for menus. I've definitely never seen a GTK+ menu with tooltips. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: George Carlin - - The Hair Place Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 12:07:00 up 21:14, 7 users, load average: 0.20, 0.15, 0.12
Re: [Cooker] Bayesian filtering still broken in SpamAssassin
On Fri Nov 07 12:23 +0100, Mark Watts wrote: Which version of spamassasin are you using? I have 2.55 on 9.1 using Bayesian filtering just fine... I deleted /home/foo/.spamassain/* before letting spamassin check a message (creating some of the fils there) and then running sa-learn. Just upgraded to 2.60-3mdk from 2.55 (I've only just recently begun tracking cooker again) and the problems started... will see if sa-learn --import fixes the issue... UPDATE: --import seems to repair this... Possibly useful pontificating: perhaps some type of extension to rpm whereby a script can be specified to be run only if upgrading from a given version/range of versions should be included? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: Rush - Different Stages - Driven Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 12:20:00 up 1 day, 10:20, 10 users, load average: 0.86, 0.39, 0.32
Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons
On Thu Nov 06 11:58 -0500, Austin wrote: On 11/06/2003 11:57:13 AM, Buchan Milne wrote: You think CS is bad? We (B.Eng - Mech) started with 80 guys and 4 girls (one more joined us in 2nd year), 25 guys and no girls graduated at the end of the 4 year course. 3 girls left Engineering, 2 changed to Industrial. Wow. Here in Canada, university enrollment is like 60% female IIRC. In science, it isn't quite as good, more like 50%. Graduate school in science, more like 40%, but still not bad at all. Go Canada! In the US, it's a similar overall ratio, but most of the female enrollment is in the mushy liberal arts... CS and a few of the engineering disciplines are about all that keeps the 55 females for 45 males ratio from getting even more skewed. Indeed, some of the exclusively liberal arts schools are actually having to institute admissions preferences for males to ensure some level of diversity on campus... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: Led Zeppelin - In Through the Out Door - Fool In Th Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 12:37:00 up 10:37, 7 users, load average: 0.22, 0.13, 0.05
[Cooker] Bayesian filtering still broken in SpamAssassin
# sa-learn --mbox --ham Mail/IN.mandrake Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: Rush - In Rio - Red Sector A Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 19:24:00 up 17:24, 10 users, load average: 0.32, 0.25, 0.33
Re: [Cooker] Bayesian filtering still broken in SpamAssassin
On Thu Nov 06 19:25 -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote: # sa-learn --mbox --ham Mail/IN.mandrake Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: Cannot open bayes databases /home/levi/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device This does not seem to be file-system dependent... the same error occurs for me on both reiser and ext3. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: Rush - Different Stages - Animate Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:20:00 up 21:20, 10 users, load average: 0.17, 0.28, 0.22
Re: [Cooker] Re: TUX?
On Sun Nov 02 22:46 +, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 19:26, Juan Quintela wrote: As the proof is in the pudding, somebody in 2.4 era, created an http Quick colloquialism fix - actual phrase is the proof of the pudding is in the eating. :) I've seen the proof is in the pudding in various locations, even reputable British English publications (e.g. the Guardian). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fate is just the weight of circumstances... Currently playing: Rush - Fly By Night - In The End Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 20:44:00 up 11 days, 3:58, 13 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.12
Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker
On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory. Also, the reason I said yesterday's is often there are 2-3 quick updates in a row, as little packaging bugs get caught by the packager and quickly fixed - would hate to have two broken packages, the rollback and the new one, on the mirrors. Why does this need to be on the mirrors? Wouldn't it be better if you could set urpmi to auto-repackage some packages (like rpm --repackage)? Then, you would have the last package you had working (since youhave no guarantees about yesterday's package anyway). For cookers, this would be quite useful ... Excellent idea, Buchan... you are a veritable fountain of such. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are... only immortal for a limited time Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 13:10:00 up 19:24, 8 users, load average: 2.03, 1.70, 1.91
Re: [Cooker] oggenc problem
On Wed Oct 22 18:08 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Torstein Dybdahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi! There seems to be a problem with oggenc. and libvorbisenc wav files that are encoded to ogg is consequently encoded at 0 kbps. Does anybody else se the same problem? Yes, sees the same problem. Gwenole, your 1.0-11mdk broke it, it seems. Please fix ASAP... I need to rip/encode the new Rush live album... ;o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 22:57:00 up 5:11, 7 users, load average: 2.19, 3.10, 2.65
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sat Oct 18 17:39 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: That is true of all corporate entities, including the various government entities. So if I write a letter to George W Bush, then I am correct in assuming that all relevant groups and individuals operating below him will have received it and will co-ordinate a single comprehensive timely reply. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. I think we have a new winner for most absurd post by you. This is a momentous accomplishment, Sir! I know it´s not easy on corporations, but that´s the law, you know Citation please, from a code that applies to MandrakeSoft (which, afaik would mean EU, French, or US law). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - One Little Victory Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:36:00 up 2 days, 11:20, 6 users, load average: 0.44, 0.30, 0.21
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sat Oct 18 12:29 -0400, Rob wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 03:39, Ron Stodden wrote: No. I have legally carried out my only duty - to notify MandrakeSoft, the owner of the cooker mailing list. To do that is all that can possibly be required. Dude, it took you longer to write this whiny-ass message than it would have to file a bug report like you should have in the first place.Go away if you'd rather not be helpful. It's Ron's standard operating procedure. I'd killfile him, but it's just too entertaining for me to miss... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Ghost Rider Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:43:00 up 2 days, 11:27, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.17, 0.17
Re: [Cooker] Discovery Pack
On Thu Oct 16 19:04 +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote: Hi all. Aha, now I know what the surprise was about... Discovery Pack. Good for Mandrake(Soft) I guess, financially speaking... Where does that leave odd morons like me? Net installs? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 00:22:00 up 12:06, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.
On Fri Oct 17 22:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Why so much kernel and initrd swell of late? Because there's more hardware out there than there was a few years ago and if MDKSoft decides that a certain IDE controller isn't common enough to justify taking up rescue and kernel space, some nut comes out of the woodwork wishing dire curses on MandrakeSoft and its employees, plus their first-born children. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 00:25:00 up 12:09, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
On Wed Oct 01 23:17 +0200, Luca Berra wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:42:40PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: And contributers not being subscribed to maintainers mailing-list, whereas half of traffic on this list is pure spam... and ppl actually discovering there is a maintainers mailing-list because they stumble upon a msg like this in cooker? Send an email with subscribe maintainers to [EMAIL PROTECTED], IIRC. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourself accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Different Stages Disc 2 - The Rhythm Method Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 17:24:00 up 7 days, 2:06, 11 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.08
Re: [Cooker] opera in mandrake 9.2
On Sat Sep 27 9:49 -0500, s wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 09:37 am, Diego Iastrubni wrote: I installed the latest beta from their site, and it segfaults on the start. worked fine in 9.1. can anyone reproduce? yeah, opera's latest about a month ago was segfaulting on my laptop which was running about rc2. I think it's an opera thing tho. I had one friend who believes opera was causing his desktop to spontaneously reboot when using it on regular 9.1. I haven't tried it on my desktop lately and miss it on my old slow laptop. but yeah, we believe there's something amiss with opera lately. -s I've been running Opera 7.2 beta for a while now on Cooker... no problems here. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourself accordingly. Currently playing: Megadeth - Risk - Time - The End Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 12:20:00 up 2 days, 21:02, 7 users, load average: 0.09, 0.15, 0.12
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thu Sep 25 16:31 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs? =) (Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about sendmail) I think the policy should be that anything which listens on a port should not, under any circumstances, be in contribs, as contribs are not generally updated; I'm sure that someone will come along with a sendmail repository and do the updates themselves. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourself accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Middletown NY County Fairgrounds 6/17/9 Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 19:57:02 up 1 day, 4:39, 6 users, load average: 1.75, 1.27, 1.07
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent
On Wed Sep 24 10:39 +, _ cosmicflo wrote: Nice ! Who are contributors ? For exemple, am I a contributor (send bugs report, discuss here) ? IIRC, the contributors are those who added their names to the proper page on the Wiki. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourself accordingly. Currently playing: %s Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 15:23:01 up 5 min, 4 users, load average: 3.89, 2.33, 1.02
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent
On Thu Sep 25 1:07 +0200, Bellegarde Cedric wrote: To contribute, you just have to put your name on a web page? Are packagers contributors? I was erroneous in confusing cosmicflo's question to be about the credits/thanks file which will name various contributors to 9.2. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourself accordingly. Currently playing: John Barry - The Living Daylights OMPS - Afghanista Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:30:00 up 8:12, 6 users, load average: 1.14, 0.72, 0.38
[Cooker] BIND patches to fight Verisign
Is there any chance of getting the patches ISC released today that allow zones to be designated delegation only included in time for 9.2? Thanks to Verisign's typosquatting which essentially means that you can't get an NXDOMAIN, many server-side spam filters (those that only accept mail from valid FQDN HELOs, for instance) are irretrievably broken. http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/delegation-only.html If these patches don't make it into 9.2, they should be updates released shortly thereafter. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Rush - Finding My Way Linux 2.4.22-7mm.1mdk 12:30:00 up 12:31, 5 users, load average: 0.31, 0.33, 0.45
Re: [Cooker] BIND patches to fight Verisign
On Wed Sep 17 12:33 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: Is there any chance of getting the patches ISC released today that allow zones to be designated delegation only included in time for 9.2? Thanks to Verisign's typosquatting which essentially means that you can't get an NXDOMAIN, many server-side spam filters (those that only accept mail from valid FQDN HELOs, for instance) are irretrievably broken. http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/delegation-only.html If these patches don't make it into 9.2, they should be updates released shortly thereafter. Oops... didn't see the earlier thread on this issue... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Hold Your Fire - Mission Linux 2.4.22-7mm.1mdk 13:00:00 up 13:01, 5 users, load average: 0.51, 0.16, 0.17
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size
On Mon Sep 15 23:17 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Levi Ramsey wrote: On Mon Sep 15 16:58 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: But we should try not to piss everybody off ... we've already pissed off the freeloaders who don't like adware (and can't read), now we're going to piss off those who have a dodgy CDROM drive who don't see the need to spend $30 on a new one when they could buy some other distro for the same price or use Redhat instead. And I suspect there may be other news that will piss even more off ... However, how many people use the ISOs to install on a server (ISOs does *not* include those who buy a boxed version)? I would think that most server installs are net installs. All my machines with clients are installed of CD or DVD. Of course, this might mean having greater promotion of the net install option... This is only of value of course in places where fast connections are ubiquitous ... I would *stronly* suggest not pissing off users who bought boxed sets (or other media from the store) since they don't have the bandwidth to download ISOs ... My suggestion is: do not include them on the download ISOs. If you have the bandwidth to get the ISOs with any degree of speed, you can do a net install on the servers. This is not true of the boxed versions or even the media purchases from the store. In that case, include the server pacakages on the CDs then. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Test for Echo - Test For Echo Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 08:49:00 up 6 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.15, 0.08
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size
On Mon Sep 15 16:58 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: But we should try not to piss everybody off ... we've already pissed off the freeloaders who don't like adware (and can't read), now we're going to piss off those who have a dodgy CDROM drive who don't see the need to spend $30 on a new one when they could buy some other distro for the same price or use Redhat instead. And I suspect there may be other news that will piss even more off ... However, how many people use the ISOs to install on a server (ISOs does *not* include those who buy a boxed version)? I would think that most server installs are net installs. Of course, this might mean having greater promotion of the net install option... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - The Camera Eye Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 16:53:01 up 6 days, 4:19, 2 users, load average: 0.30, 0.23, 0.19
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon Sep 15 14:19 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: Well, why do they need to build galeon, when it is included?? That's a joke, right? No, it's a legitimate point. ( the length of the reasons is prohibitive and content inflamatory ) Post it... we can take it... or is it because you can't come up with a reason? Mozilla has never been the default browser, Konqueror and Galeon are. Sorry, BM, but you must not have been lurking around cooker/MDK long enuf How long have you been lurking around cooker/MDK? I've been on this list for 18 months now and Buchan predates me. I can't recall ever seeing a post from you before this thread. You may want to try researching what you say, it makes you look like slightly less of an idiot (though I'm not sure how much that would help you). [Signature] My email box is full of spam and signatures. Honestly, I have email that are 3/4 signatures and 1/4 content. A signature is neither a resume nor is it a place for you to include your personal philosphy about life in general. If you are one of those who do that, please stop sending me yours. ONE line is enough! While my signature may be long, at least it adheres to 80 characters per line. Quick question: how old are you, Ric? From your spelling and attitude, I'm setting the Over/Under at 13 and taking the Under. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Permanent Waves - Natural Science Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 17:45:00 up 6 days, 5:11, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.24, 0.18
Re: [Cooker] posting from gmane?
On Sun Sep 14 7:58 -0700, Duncan wrote: I am now subscribed to this list as a newsgroup thru gmane, and wish to stop getting it in my mail box, but still be able to post to it. However, if a poster isn't a member, mail must be confirmed. Unfortunately, SYMPA-Mdk doesn't mention a subscribed but no delivery setting for this list as many have. Does anyone else post thru them? How do you manage it? I do. I forget how I did it, but you might want to try the sympa.org documentation... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - SM - The Memory Remains Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 17:16:00 up 5 days, 4:42, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.04, 1.03
Re: [Cooker] Can't releases in september!
On Mon Sep 15 0:20 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cooker is too buggy to release afinal in september. same music for each release :). Crickets, I tell you. Crickets. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Audioslave - Audioslave - I Am The Highway Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 19:48:00 up 5 days, 7:14, 3 users, load average: 0.52, 0.83, 0.59
[Cooker] urpmi OpenOffice.org weirdness
# urpmi OpenOffice.org One of the following packages is needed: 1- OpenOffice.org-l10n-es-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 2- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ar-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 3- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ca-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 4- OpenOffice.org-l10n-cs-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 5- OpenOffice.org-l10n-da-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 6- OpenOffice.org-l10n-de-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 7- OpenOffice.org-l10n-el-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 8- OpenOffice.org-l10n-fi-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 9- OpenOffice.org-l10n-fr-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 10- OpenOffice.org-l10n-it-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 11- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ja-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 12- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ko-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 13- OpenOffice.org-l10n-nl-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 14- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pl-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 15- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pt-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 16- OpenOffice.org-l10n-pt_BR-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 17- OpenOffice.org-l10n-ru-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 18- OpenOffice.org-l10n-sk-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 19- OpenOffice.org-l10n-sv-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 20- OpenOffice.org-l10n-tr-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 21- OpenOffice.org-l10n-zh_CN-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 22- OpenOffice.org-l10n-zh_TW-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 What is your choice? (1-22) 9 One of the following packages is needed: 1- myspell-fr_BE-1.0.2-0.20030619.1mdk.noarch 2- myspell-fr_FR-1.0.2-0.20020608.1mdk.noarch What is your choice? (1-2) 2 The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded: OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1-0.rc4.1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied OpenOffice.org == 1.1) (y/N) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Cleveland OH Cuyahoga Falls Blossom Mus Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 13:06:00 up 4 days, 32 min, 0 users, load average: 2.56, 1.78, 1.44
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 8:50 +0200, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: sorry for the missunderstanding, i completely agree. if this advertized Mandrake was the first i try to install, i would probably never try it again, and probably never go for a boxed version. i still disslike SuSE, because they use closed installer, and there are no free install CD, and i think i would have similer impression from Mandrake. DrakX is GPL. Distribute your own ISOs with no advertising or advertising for your preferred causes or whatever. Hell, call it Adfreedrake. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Presto - Hand Over Fist Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 10:42:00 up 2 days, 22:08, 6 users, load average: 0.36, 0.58, 0.78
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 12:55 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: I also absolute hate the fact that the way this is being implemented sets a precedent for the impairment of the actual functionality of the OS through adverts, which is the effect of putting adverts on the default home page and on the browser bookmarks. Oh no! If we allow the people to carry guns, everybody's going to turn into a serial killer! If we give people PGP, we're helping child porn! If we give a few poor people welfare, this is going to turn into Soviet Russia! Wh... it's fun sliding down the slippery slopes... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Presto - Available Light Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 10:46:00 up 2 days, 22:12, 6 users, load average: 0.36, 0.50, 0.70
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] sgrotum-1.2.6-1mdk
On Fri Sep 12 12:12 +0200, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Freitag, 12. September 2003, 12:07:40 Uhr MET, schrieb Thierry Vignaud: Name: sgrotum Relocations: (not relocateable) [schnipp] is this really needed in package description ? I wonder why nobody has complained yet about the package name :-) Methinks [schnipp] appeared too close to the package name for comfort... Ouch! -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Counterparts - Animate Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 10:50:00 up 2 days, 22:16, 6 users, load average: 0.37, 0.53, 0.67
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 18:57 +0200, Jan Ciger wrote: MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: | Corporate branded distros? What if a company like HP wanted to brand the | MDK distro for distribution on their hardware. Is there a financial | opportunity there to charge? | | Cory | If HP want's to brand the distro, they can already. The source is over there. Mandrake, RedHat and others do it with their code, so HP can fork the distro as well and there is no way how MDK could force them to pay (except perhaps for permissions to use the trademarks and such). Of course, voluntary contribution from HP would be surely welcome :-) If HP wants to have a distro branded for them, that's another thing, but what has this to do with putting ads in the default download version ? It's exactly the same mechanism. Put a few different pngs in /Mandrake/share/advertising/ and voila, you've branded the installer. Put a few different pngs in /usr/share/mdk/xscreensaver/ and voila, you've branded the screensaver. All Mandrake is doing is allowing people/companies to participate in the default branding of the distribution. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Malena - Pari Ti (Classic Vocal Mix).ogg Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 13:07:01 up 3 days, 33 min, 6 users, load average: 1.33, 1.08, 1.07
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 18:57 +0200, Jan Ciger wrote: If HP want's to brand the distro, they can already. Mandrake also offers, for a fee (and has for a looong time), to create a branded distribution for large customers/OEMs. I wouldn't be surprised if the version of MDK that HP is distributing is Mandrake plus extra branding. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - St. Anger - All Within My Hands Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 13:11:00 up 3 days, 37 min, 6 users, load average: 0.31, 0.83, 0.98
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 22:45 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 17:57, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: | Corporate branded distros? What if a company like HP wanted to brand the | MDK distro for distribution on their hardware. Is there a financial | opportunity there to charge? | | Cory | If HP want's to brand the distro, they can already. The source is over there. Mandrake, RedHat and others do it with their code, so HP can Sure. But why bother spending the time to get in house people to learn how to do it? I think Cory's idea's a good one - ask big corporate clients if they'd like Mandrakesoft to do the work of creating a customised version of the distro for them, for a relatively small fee - make it cheaper than doing it in-house would be. MandrakeSoft already does exactly that. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Dazed and Confused.ogg Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 17:53:00 up 3 days, 5:19, 6 users, load average: 1.95, 2.30, 2.36
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 22:33 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:49, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Fri Sep 12 12:55 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: I also absolute hate the fact that the way this is being implemented sets a precedent for the impairment of the actual functionality of the OS through adverts, which is the effect of putting adverts on the default home page and on the browser bookmarks. Oh no! If we allow the people to carry guns, everybody's going to turn into a serial killer! If we give people PGP, we're helping child porn! If we give a few poor people welfare, this is going to turn into Soviet Russia! Wh... it's fun sliding down the slippery slopes... Stop being facetious. In the case of business, it's exactly how things work; the path of least resistance is followed. Picture the scene in a year's time. Mandrakesoft Borg #1: Well, the adverts thing worked great for a while, but now it's kinda tailing off. Should I come up with a new and exciting different way to generate revenue, or should I just slap a few more adverts in to cover up the difference? Mandrakesoft Borg #2: Fuck, it's Friday, I'm tired, just get a couple more ads would you? Stop being paranoid, and I'll stop being facetious. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Dazed and Confused.ogg Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 18:11:01 up 3 days, 5:37, 6 users, load average: 1.01, 1.43, 1.86
Re: [Cooker] um.
On Fri Sep 12 21:41 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/wimbledon_2003/photo_galleries/3038554.stm 2nd picture. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - 2112 - Tears Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 22:45:01 up 3 days, 10:11, 7 users, load average: 1.84, 2.19, 1.97
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: wiki update (9.2 schedule / CREDITS)
On Sat Aug 30 18:56 -0400, David Walser wrote: Well, when libao goes to pick an output plugin, it starts testing them all to see if they work (each implements a test function). When it finds one that works, it keeps looping, and only tests further ones if they have a priority than the one that already worked. They way the list they looped over was created before, they had no control over the order the different plugins were in. I changed it so the list is sorted in order of plugin priority (highest to lowest), so as soon as it finds a plugin that works, it breaks out of the loop. It's basically an optimization to the autodetection (of whether to use arts, esd, oss, alsa, etc output) code, it should make it faster. Excellent. Now that pesky arts bug won't cause segfaults when other output plugins end up being used... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Burning Man.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 19:47:00 up 26 days, 5:05, 13 users, load average: 0.30, 0.89, 0.99
Re: [Cooker] Whole Day Shot Trying HD Network Installation'
On Sat Aug 30 1:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I've been installing mdk ever since 7.1, normally from either hd.img or network.img boot. Friday was total toast with rc1. First the iso's wouldn't md5, so I had to download all over again, and today the server took 5X as long as it did last night to give up its bounty. Once over that hump, I tried hd.img with raw iso's on FAT32. Installer always progessed into package selection before any errors, at which point, all kinds of errors that eventually sent the installer either back to the start of package selection, or past that to partitioning. Errors such as you can't select/unselect this package (e.g. on XF86fonts-100, drakconf kdegraphics), or depending reports requiring and OK be clicked, except that clicking OK produced no response on 1st click, then restarted package selection on 2nd click. I finally got through package selection 3 times, only to fail on 'basesystem package not selected', being returned to the start of package selection yet again. Eventually I got set up for NFS install, and that won't even get out of text mode. Each time, right after entering server IP and directory it just sits there, and on tty3, last line I see is 'preparing nfsmount for [IP]:[dir]', and no evidence that SCSI ever loaded. Has SCSI support been deleted from the boot floppies? I can't remember when the previous versions asked for SCSI support confirmation. Is ftp or CD install the only way that works for rc1? I really don't like burning CD's for betas, and I've never figured out how to select a ftp or http source for installation. Where do I point the installer for ftp or http? Didn't you post this already? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Burning Man.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 19:49:00 up 26 days, 5:07, 13 users, load average: 0.07, 0.60, 0.87
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: Re: wiki update (9.2 schedule / CREDITS)
On Sat Aug 30 20:20 -0400, David Walser wrote: Excellent. Now that pesky arts bug won't cause segfaults when other output plugins end up being used... I doubt it's an arts bug, because it used to work, and then I upgraded some of my Cooker *without* upgrading arts and then it broke. Maybe it's glibc. s/arts bug/bug triggered by ao arts plugin/ -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Secret Touch Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 21:11:00 up 26 days, 6:29, 13 users, load average: 0.89, 0.72, 0.75
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-5mdk
On Sat Aug 30 1:47 +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Fri Aug 29 23:58:12 2003 # urpmi drakxtools Some package requested cannot be installed: drakxtools-9.2-5mdk.i586 (due to missing drakxtools-newt-9.2-5mdk.i586) drakxtools-newt-9.2-5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied perl(ctxhelp)) Looks like another b0rked perl autorequires... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - St. Anger - Frantic Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 02:20:00 up 26 days, 11:38, 13 users, load average: 0.76, 0.76, 0.74
Re: [Cooker] Re: wiki update (9.2 schedule / CREDITS)
On Sat Aug 30 11:27 -0400, David Walser wrote: Yeah, I dunno if I go on there or not either. I made some packages and fixed some things and I can't remember what else. Complained a lot :o) I think I did more for previous releases than this one. *shrug* Same boat here, but I'll take my cue from you, as I've definitely done less than you. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Monster Magnet - Melt Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 16:28:00 up 26 days, 1:46, 13 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.07
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: wiki update (9.2 schedule / CREDITS)
On Sat Aug 30 12:01 -0400, David Walser wrote: I also got a fairly significant patch accepted upstream into libao (part of vorbis project) but they haven't made a new release. I don't think GC wants to package CVS even though it's better. Just wondering, but as a resident ao evangelist, what was the patch for? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Monster Magnet - Melt Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 16:30:00 up 26 days, 1:48, 13 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07
Re: [Cooker] rc1 torrent
On Fri Aug 29 0:19 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Don't know what you mean ... ISOs are on sunet.se at the usual lag of one day, and my mirror which is one day behind sunet.se has been working find with 'urpmi.pdate -a;urpmit --auto-select --auto' in cron.daily. Granted, it (sunet) was behind a day on Monday/Tuesday. This jumping from one mirror to another is getting *very* tiresome. In the past week or so, I've jumped from redbox.cz to uninett.no to sunet.se. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Mama Said single (UK) - Mama Said (Earl Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 00:40:00 up 24 days, 9:58, 13 users, load average: 0.43, 0.56, 0.27
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent kicks ass!
On Thu Aug 28 12:30 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday August 27 2003 10:31 pm, Austin wrote: On 08/27/2003 09:08:44 PM, Austin wrote: I never got speeds like that on DSL, trust me. DSL here downloads at about 100Mb/s, cable a little faster, not much. Of course I meant 100 kb/s. Austin I get 145 to 150 Kilobytes/sec on DSL. From everywhere. 'Cept on bittorrent I get 1 to 5 Kilobytes from y'all, upload 15 to 30/s. Till just now, I found a slow mirror (redbox) that's way better than this bitchtorrent crud. After I get the last two iso's, an chk md5sums, I'll restart the bittcruds for all 3 iso's so y'all can suffer with it. (-1, Troll) ;o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Mama Said single (UK) - Mama Said (Earl Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 00:43:00 up 24 days, 10:01, 13 users, load average: 0.17, 0.40, 0.26
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent kicks ass!
On Thu Aug 28 17:30 -0400, Austin wrote: York has a debian mirror. The networking department is kinda stingy about bandwidth though... they only let us transfer a gig per week on personal computers and two gig per week on office computers. My experience with UMass regarding getting a mandrake mirror ended up with them firewalling the host so that only their network and those of nearby colleges (and, I think, the subnets corresponding to the local cable infrastructure) could access it. Even then, they've since given up on mirroring cooker... :o( -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Mama Said single (UK) - Mama Said (Earl Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 00:44:00 up 24 days, 10:02, 13 users, load average: 0.06, 0.33, 0.24
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent kicks ass!
On Thu Aug 28 18:00 -0400, Austin wrote: It's getting crazy. Here at York, they are insisting that ALL windows computers on the network install the latest service pack (or whatever it's called, Windows-Update thingy), AND install anti-virus software, or they will be removed from the netowrk. We got hit pretty hard I guess. Starting with Code Red (so it's been 2 years now), UMass has been having the routers profile traffic and if any system indicates worm infection they have the appropriate switch to disable the Ethernet port and send a snail mail letter to the office/dorm of the computer (no postage to send mail that doesn't leave campus) saying that reinstatement is predicated on patching. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - 1999/05/22 concert - Master of Puppets Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 00:52:00 up 24 days, 10:10, 13 users, load average: 0.28, 0.28, 0.25
Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness
On Thu Aug 28 17:24 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote: Before I retired to France I worked in the UK as head of RD for the market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry. If I caused this much havoc to our customers, with the financial consequences to them, I would have been hung out to dry. Cooker has nothing at all to do with customers. Cooker is for volunteer beta testers. That's what we are. Right, but if those beta testers can't get packages to test, bugs aren't going to get found, and 9.2 is going to be a train wreck (and MandrakeSoft isn't out of the woods yet; if 9.2 is a trainwreck, can MdkSoft survive?). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Audioslave - Audioslave - Bring Em Back Alive Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 01:32:00 up 24 days, 10:50, 13 users, load average: 0.58, 0.62, 0.47
Re: [Cooker] latest kopete and msn messenger
On Thu Aug 28 22:11 +0100, Andre Lourenco wrote: when i connect with latest cooker kopete to msn messenger services, i get a nice message from .NET Messenger Service Staff: (22:08:19) [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: You are running a version of messenger that requires an immediate security update. Please visit http://messenger.msn.com/Help/Upgrades.aspx to complete the update. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has left the chat. are you ppl receiving this to? Please refrain from replying to messages to start new threads; write a new mail instead (as it messes up email in those of us who are using intelligent clients). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Presto - Available Light Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 01:48:00 up 24 days, 11:06, 13 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28, 0.33
Re: [Cooker] Main mirror BROKEN AGAIN!!!!!
On Thu Aug 28 22:20 +0100, Andre Lourenco wrote: Agree... I already lost more that one good cooking week with this problems... With so many people having problems, we should ask ourselves if we are testing 9.2 in a useful way. FWIW, sunet.se seems to be more current now than (uninett|uio).no... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Black Hole Sun.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 01:50:00 up 24 days, 11:08, 13 users, load average: 0.14, 0.22, 0.30
Re: [Cooker] Main mirror BROKEN AGAIN!!!!!
On Fri Aug 29 8:52 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: how do you know it is the main mirror ? and what does main mirror mean for you ? if this is the mirror from where all other update, then this doesn't seems to be the case anymore. I seriously think a post to cooker saying what mirrors sync from the central repository is in order... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Jimmy Buffett - - A Pirate Looks at Forty Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 03:35:00 up 24 days, 12:53, 13 users, load average: 0.48, 0.59, 0.40
Re: [Cooker] Interesting link from slashdot
On Wed Aug 27 12:22 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk : Am Dienstag, 26. August 2003, 18:52:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Levi Ramsey: Some of you may have seen this already, but this project looks interesting. Perhaps this could be used for the ncurses Drak tools? http://zemljanka.sourceforge.net The included gtk demos are working fine in curses mode, other apps I've tested just crashed. But indeed, this is a nice idea to have some text mode fallback out of the box. Are you aware that drakx tools already support text mode and even web mode ? I'm aware of that. However I think having GTK+ (and thus perl-GTK) do the work, rather than having two backends for DrakX will be a more reliable solution. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Monster Magnet - God Says No - My Life Friend Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 14:34:00 up 22 days, 23:52, 11 users, load average: 0.24, 0.28, 0.33
Re: [Cooker] XMMS - audio compress monitor
On Wed Aug 27 20:01 +0100, Andre Lourenco wrote: why does xmms start with a window that says 'audio compress monitor'? that windows doesn't seem to work at all, but it stats up with xmms anyway You probably have AudioCompress installed. Because xmms doesn't provide a mechanism for notifying effect plugins that they're active, if AudioCompress is set to have a monitor window, it will spawn at startup. Fix for now is to disable the monitor window as follows In the xmms Preferences dialog (accessible by either), click on the Effect/ General Plugins tab, select KOMPRESSOR CRUSH XMMS from the Effect Plugins menu, then click the Configure button right below that menu. Select the Monitor tab and disable Show monitor window. I will be uploading a new AudioCompress to contribs shortly which makes the default to not show the monitor window. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Denis Leary - Asshole.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 20:38:01 up 23 days, 5:56, 10 users, load average: 1.16, 0.88, 0.75
Re: [Cooker] udftools ? too late for mdk9.2?
On Thu Aug 28 11:02 +0200, Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2003 01:18 schrieb Svetoslav Slavtchev: Hi, i just prepared two src.rpm's for udf-tools (stable 1.0.0b2 cvs 1.0.0b3) could some one review them, and may be upload them to contrib. they are pretty needed for packet cd/dvd writing and for dvd+rw used as a harddrive or dvd-ram. best, svetljo PS. src.rpms are @ http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/ruby-contrib/mdk-cook/probably_brok en/ specs attached and the kernel needs udf write support :( I thought that cooker is frozen means that main is frozen, or is the same true now for contrib ? I have hoped to get my vdr packages in contrib 9.2 and some of the plugins in plf. Can i forget that now or am i right that it is possible to get that in the next days ? Cooker is frozen, but I don't believe contrib freezes until Lenny decides to freeze contrib. IIRC, in the past, that freeze has been long after the cooker freeze. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Caress of Steel - Fountain of Lamneth Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 10:55:00 up 23 days, 20:13, 13 users, load average: 0.82, 0.89, 1.21
Re: [Cooker] Re: new bootsplash and mandrake_theme and help wanted
On Tue Aug 26 20:46 -0400, David Walser wrote: And since mandrake_desk is a required package (for desktops) it sounds like there's no way to avoid installing bootsplash now... :o( -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - ...And Justice For All - To Live Is To Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 20:53:00 up 22 days, 6:11, 11 users, load average: 0.24, 0.48, 0.53
[Cooker] More mirroring madness...
uninett doesn't seem to be deleting old packages... urpmi-4.4-24mdk and urpmi-4.4-25mdk (to name two examples) are both on the mirror... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - ...And Justice For All - To Live Is To Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 20:54:00 up 22 days, 6:12, 11 users, load average: 0.15, 0.42, 0.51
Re: [Cooker] How can we stop the virus flooding
On Mon Aug 25 23:50 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I don't mind if Joe User setup a web server through such a click-o-magic without ever reading a manual, howto or anything related to network computing, cause if he's wrong he will only trash his computer. But i don't want to get spammed just because the same Joe User decided he could play with a new toy he found in mcc and setup an open-relay SMTP... Don't include an option to allow it to open relay in mcc. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Sweet Miracle Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 18:48:00 up 21 days, 4:06, 10 users, load average: 0.29, 0.13, 0.10
[Cooker] Strange urpmi.update behavior
Running urpmi.update on a local medium, it fails to copy the hdlist.cz to /var/lib/urpmi (though it can be manually copied without a problem) after which it appears to run something similar to gendistrib. This fails with the message: unable to write list file of Cooker writing list file for medium Cooker urpmi-4.4-25mdk -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Sweet Miracle Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 01:40:00 up 21 days, 10:58, 10 users, load average: 0.60, 0.95, 0.94
Re: [Cooker] Strange urpmi.update behavior
On Tue Aug 26 1:42 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: Running urpmi.update on a local medium, it fails to copy the hdlist.cz to /var/lib/urpmi (though it can be manually copied without a problem) after which it appears to run something similar to gendistrib. This fails with the message: unable to write list file of Cooker writing list file for medium Cooker urpmi-4.4-25mdk Fixed by removing the medium and re-adding... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Beatallica - A Garage Dayz Nite - For Horsemen Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 02:51:04 up 21 days, 12:09, 10 users, load average: 4.25, 3.34, 2.72
Re: [Cooker] Cooker kdepim-3.1.3-12mdk.i586.rpm is empty
On Tue Aug 26 13:14 +0200, Aleksander Adamowski wrote: I've synced my machine with latest cooker recently, and I've discovered that I cannot run korganizer - it's not present. I've downloaded the kdepim-3.1.3-12mdk.i586.rpm package manually, and it turns out it's empty - there are no files inside, only RPM metadata. Try something like kdepim-korganizer, perhaps? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - ReLoad - Bad Seed Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 11:58:00 up 21 days, 21:16, 10 users, load average: 0.89, 1.18, 0.95
[Cooker] Interesting link from slashdot
Some of you may have seen this already, but this project looks interesting. Perhaps this could be used for the ncurses Drak tools? http://zemljanka.sourceforge.net -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos - Mas Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 18:51:00 up 22 days, 4:09, 10 users, load average: 0.61, 0.97, 1.13
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion for improved user experience
On Wed Aug 27 0:24 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Levi Ramsey wrote: On Mon Aug 25 17:44 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/rss.php I can go about submitting it to the likes of K5 and Slashdot for sidebar headline boxes if desired... I was hoping someone would ... Done (at least for Kuro5hin and Slashdot)... if you know of any other sites that Mandrake users might frequent, submit the RDFs. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Apocalyptica - Plays Metallica by Four Cellos - Mas Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 18:52:00 up 22 days, 4:10, 10 users, load average: 0.50, 0.87, 1.08
Re: [Cooker] OT: on current viruses
On Sat Aug 23 13:00 -0400, Austin wrote: Hey, I keep getting these messages from virus scanners on various mail servers all over the world saying that I tried to send a virus infected email through their mail server. It's the sobig.f virus, which is written in MSVC, and propogates through windows, so I don't see how I could have sent it to anyone, but they attach a copy of it with my return address. This makes me very mad. I don't have a single computer running Windows, and I highly doubt if Balsa can execute MS macros LOL. I'm proud of the fact that I don't propogate viruses. Long story short: a SoBig.F infected system will send out emails to everybody in the address book (it may also scan IE's cache for email addresses), setting the From: header on the email to other random addresses on the infected system. So someone who has you in their address book is infected. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Power Windows - Mystic Rhythms Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 02:16:00 up 19 days, 11:34, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.06
Re: [Cooker] [OT] correct names for things
On Sat Aug 23 0:46 +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Le Vendredi 22 Août 2003 14:23, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 21:25, Philip Webb wrote: 030820 J.A. Magallon wrote: Eskimos have many words just for snow 'Eskimo' is itself an incorrect term today: they call themselves 'Inuit'. I have been told that eskimo means raw meat eater like animals does. That is correct... if I remember correctly, eskimo is an Algonquin word for eater(s) of raw meat, which gives you an idea of the Algonquin's view of the Inuit... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Power Windows - Mystic Rhythms Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 02:08:00 up 19 days, 11:26, 10 users, load average: 0.20, 0.13, 0.10
Re: [Cooker] OT: on current viruses
On Sun Aug 24 17:16 +0200, Luca Berra wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:56:21PM +0200, Till Kamppeter wrote: Anyone knows a way how to find the box where the virus e-mails (not the error messages, the mails from the virus itself) come from? I would like to inform the users of the infected machines, as these mails are annoying. use the headers, but how exactly would you inform the user? Run a whois on the IP and, especially if it's a .edu, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my experience .edu's are fairly quick to disable the ethernet jacks of machines infected by worms. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Power Windows - Mystic Rhythms Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 16:00:02 up 20 days, 1:18, 10 users, load average: 1.67, 0.84, 0.56
Re: [Cooker] Mirror madness
On Thu Aug 21 10:28 +0200, Götz Waschk wrote: The problem isn't the number of files but the frequent file changes. If one file changes you'll have to regenerate the torrent which involves the calculation of the md5 sums of the complete data. This takes a lot of processing time. Maybe bittorrent could be improved by making it cache some md5 sums for the unchanged chunks of data. P2P rsync? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - St. Anger - The Unnamed Feeling Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 12:22:00 up 16 days, 21:40, 9 users, load average: 0.06, 0.53, 0.61
Re: [Cooker] Invalid Key ID
On Mon Aug 18 10:33 +0100, John Allen wrote: On Monday 18 August 2003 09:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure? Check with: $ rpm -qa 'gpg-pubkey*' simplifying this by rpm -q gpg-pubkey on twiki. Ok, I zapped all the keys in my database, then added RPM-GPG-KEYS. Then in Software Sources Manager choose Manage Keys-Add a key, and jey presto the new key is available. Anybody know of a way to do this from the CLI... there's nothing in the urpmi docs that I can see... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - The Stars Look Down Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 03:36:00 up 15 days, 12:54, 8 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.16
Re: [Cooker] Invalid Key ID
On Wed Aug 20 3:37 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Mon Aug 18 10:33 +0100, John Allen wrote: On Monday 18 August 2003 09:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure? Check with: $ rpm -qa 'gpg-pubkey*' simplifying this by rpm -q gpg-pubkey on twiki. Ok, I zapped all the keys in my database, then added RPM-GPG-KEYS. Then in Software Sources Manager choose Manage Keys-Add a key, and jey presto the new key is available. Anybody know of a way to do this from the CLI... there's nothing in the urpmi docs that I can see... Never mind... manually upgrading to urpmi-4.4-22mdk got me the keys added, though there are a couple of problems: 1) PLF key (caba22ae) is assigned for my remote Cooker source (which I use as a backup in the event that I need a package I normally exclude from my local mirror). 2) local mirror has no key assigned, but attempts to install some packages (not all, vim-common (but not any other vim packages) and postfix did not result in this behavior) failed with signature issues. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - The Stars Look Down Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 03:47:01 up 15 days, 13:05, 9 users, load average: 0.50, 0.36, 0.22
Re: [Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution
On Wed Aug 20 18:20 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: anyway, it's understandable: free beer means free of charge, there's no freedom background in getting free beer. Am I the only one who's been waiting for someone to muddy those waters with a beer whose recipe is GPL'd? ;o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Ceiling Unlimited Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 13:29:00 up 15 days, 22:47, 8 users, load average: 0.13, 0.41, 0.59
Re: [Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution
On Wed Aug 20 17:45 -0400, Austin wrote: On 08/20/03 11:12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will probably never use this, but I think it _is_ a valuable addition to the distro. Even if nobody uses it is looks like in a press release. In this case, being a little less extremistic could be a good thing. You are right... idealism doesn't sell a distro. Don't forget though that the CD's don't make the distro. Not everything on the CDs has to be free, but everything that is part of the downloadable distro should be as close to free as possible IMHO. Indeed, including these tools as part of the boxed sets or making them only available to Club members may be a useful compromise. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Out of the Cradle Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 19:30:01 up 16 days, 4:48, 8 users, load average: 0.51, 0.29, 0.14
Re: [Cooker] Mutray 0.2 released
On Thu Aug 21 1:17 +0100, Mike Dransfield wrote: rpm --rebuild mutray-0.2-1mdk.src.rpm Installing mutray-0.2-1mdk.src.rpm warning: user david does not exist - using root warning: group david does not exist - using root warning: user david does not exist - using root warning: group david does not exist - using root So? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - St. Anger - Shoot Me Again Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 22:08:00 up 16 days, 7:26, 8 users, load average: 0.15, 0.20, 0.14
Re: [Cooker] Pbm with cooker ML
On Fri Aug 15 11:46 +0200, Dave Cotton wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 11:41, Frederic Soulier wrote: Hi There seems to be a pbm with cooker ML, I'm receiving very few emails and a couple of emails I sent never showed up... So just checking. Come on Frederic, it's a national holiday here today, and perhaps everyone else is busy patching Windows systems ready for tomorrow :) Also, I imagine Austin and any other contributors from certain parts of the US and Canada had some power problems... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Corrosion of Conformity - Wiseblood - Man or Ash Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 13:17:00 up 10 days, 22:35, 9 users, load average: 0.11, 0.20, 0.11
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.93-1mdk
On Wed Aug 06 20:00 +0200, François Pons wrote: * Wed Aug 06 2003 Fran?ois Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.93-1mdk - added URPM::Signature for handling armored gpg file and internal rpm pubkey. Does this mean that urpmi won't prompt on PLF packages? If it does, then I worship the ground on which you walk... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Hemispheres - La Villa Strangiato Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 15:11:00 up 2 days, 29 min, 15 users, load average: 2.54, 2.40, 1.35
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kernel-2.6-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk
On Thu Aug 07 22:08 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Thu Aug 07 15:34 -0400, David Walser wrote: Apparently they can now, but they used to be totally illegal, and for good reason. It makes it near impossible to parse the filename. Parse it from the end... I was going to suggest that too, but couldn't come up with a regex. Where's yours? ;-). Will BNF do? package_filename ::== package_name-version-version.arch.rpm ;; Not sure if all valid characters package_name ::== {valid_chars | - | +} version ::== {valid_chars} ;; Not completely valid BNF syntax here, but I don't ;; feel like putting in bars between all characters... valid_chars ::== ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz123456789. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: George Carlin - - Son of WINO Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 16:41:00 up 3 days, 1:59, 9 users, load average: 0.09, 0.06, 0.06
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
On Tue Aug 05 13:02 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mar 05/08/2003 à 02:56, Levi Ramsey a écrit : I've been thinking that maybe a DrakSudo module in DrakX might be useful as well, to help get a working sudoers configuration. With a proper sudo setup, root login is truly unnecessary for a large percentage of administrative tasks. If this could be task-based, even better. good idea, very good idea, a must have. A good default config would also help ... maybe we should start collecting some on the wiki? I'm not necessarily sure that the default sudo configuration should be anything but totally locked down. Maybe the most reasonable default is something like: %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL which would require a password to attain all root privileges, but only if you're in group wheel. Couple this with a place (near the end of the installer? It's been a long time since I last used the installer...) where an administrative alias can be specified, which would simply place the selected user(s) into the wheel group, and I think you've got a winner. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - YYZ Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 09:12:00 up 18:30, 5 users, load average: 0.11, 0.09, 0.05
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 MEDIAS - MEDIA
On Mon Aug 11 8:30 -0600, Alvin Austin wrote: Hello, Just a minor QA correction before 9.2 gets released. There are many instances of medias in the locales and in the title Software Medias Manager. There is no such word. Media is already a plural and should be used instead. Keep up the great work! Probably won't be fixed... too much internal stuff will be affected. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Frank Sinatra - - Luck Be a Lady Tonight Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 12:28:00 up 6 days, 21:46, 11 users, load average: 0.21, 0.15, 0.16
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kernel-2.6-2.6.0-0.test2.2mdk
On Thu Aug 07 15:34 -0400, David Walser wrote: Apparently they can now, but they used to be totally illegal, and for good reason. It makes it near impossible to parse the filename. Parse it from the end... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: George Carlin - - New York Voices Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 15:54:00 up 3 days, 1:12, 9 users, load average: 0.60, 0.85, 0.50
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
On Mon Aug 11 11:31 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote: If you really care, install a SMTP server and perform headers rewriting. Can't, ISP limitations. If you just set the SMTP server to accept connections from localhost, there is no way the ISP can know... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Fly By Night - Best I Can Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 14:37:00 up 6 days, 23:55, 11 users, load average: 0.37, 0.35, 0.19
Re: [Cooker] Re: kde splitting: some problems
On Sun Aug 10 22:38 -0400, Greg Meyer wrote: Cooker #1: I use kmail but not knode, so why can't we do like SuSE and allow me to install kmail and not knode and all the other stuff that comes in kdenetwork that I don't need. Cooker #2: But it makes it so much easier to manage KDE packaging to just keep it all together, and disk space is cheap now anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue. Cooker #1: But I don't like having stuff installed I don't use even though I have the disk space. And what about the users on dial-up? Why should we make them download all of kdenetwork when all they need is kmail. Cooker #2: But it is crazy to make a zillion KDE packages. How will people know what they nedd? Another argument in favor of splitting is that it minimizes the need to upload a massive package when one small component changes... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - Cleveland OH Cuyahoga Falls Blossom Mus Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 12:15:00 up 6 days, 21:33, 11 users, load average: 0.15, 0.19, 0.22
Re: [Cooker] Mailman 2.1.2-5mdk
On Tue Aug 05 15:05 -0700, David Guntner wrote: I'm hoping that someone can steer me in the right direction here. I downloaded the 2.1.2-5mdk rpm file from www.rpmfind.net, which was listed as a cooker distribution (hence my question here :). I'm running into a number of oddities that I'm hoping someone can help me straighten out. Mixing packages from cooker and a stable release is generally a recipe for oddities... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Ghost Rider Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 18:31:01 up 1 day, 3:49, 14 users, load average: 0.15, 0.55, 0.56
Re: [Cooker] Re: kde splitting: some problems
On Mon Aug 11 23:07 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: rsync can take this in account and tranfer less bytes, because if 10 packages are uploaded, but only one is really a new version, the other would only changed by some headers and the changelog. Not necessarily... first of all, in the case where we have monolithic packages, only one package need be updated (although all the kde* packages seem to be updated in unison) and this is the one with the significant changes are made. Furthermore, both source and binaries are compressed within the rpm, which is something guaranteed to confuse rsync (try compressing a large file, then making a slight edit and recompressing... diff output should be far more extensive than your edit would imply). The only thing that rsync helps with is the RPM headers, which for a package that's a candidate for splitting are generally a tiny portion of the RPM. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Whole Lotta Love.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 23:34:00 up 7 days, 8:52, 11 users, load average: 0.34, 0.29, 0.25
Re: [Cooker] urpmi status [was Status Check]
On Thu Aug 07 18:44 -0700, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 13:11, Buchan Milne wrote: ... If you have a mildly recent urpmi, it should not be necessary, since: # urpmi --auto-select --auto --keep should work (BTW, I run this in cron) Yep, urpmi is getting even better than manual installs. Very good work. One question, though. I have defined a cooker source on a local drive and a contrib source online. However, the hdlist2.cz is part of cooker, so I have it locally. Would there be a way to define this local file in the 'with' setup of the contrib source. For now, every time I run 'urpmi.update contrib' it fetches again the file from the mirror. Apologies if there is an obvious answer. There is an --update option to urpmi.addmedia, but I don't quite understand the man page: I use the same basic setup. Basically, what I do is not download *any* hdlists for Cooker, and provide my own base/hdlists file: hdlist.cz RPMSCooker After downloading, I run gendistrib on that and, tada, only cooker is described in my local mirror... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Caress of Steel - Lakeside park Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 13:45:59 up 3 days, 23:04, 9 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00
Re: [Cooker] Silly kernel rpm dependancies...
On Wed Aug 06 15:28 +0100, Mark Watts wrote: Also, /usr/src/RPM/RPMS is hardcoded into this package, so I can't build it as a user (there shouldn't be any requirement to be root to build a kernel, only to actually install one although this may have a bearing on the kernel-source.rpm...) Uh... rpm --rebuild'ing on my system builds it in ~/RPM... I didn't do a complete build (not enough time), but the resulting RPMs should be in ~/RPM/RPMS. [levi @ tatiana | 12:36:28] SPECS cat kernel-2.4.spec | grep /usr/src/RPM [levi @ tatiana | 12:36:51] SPECS Perchance, what does cat /home/levi/.rpmmacros | grep _topdir output? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Hemispheres - Cygnus X-1, Book II Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 12:34:59 up 1 day, 21:53, 16 users, load average: 0.79, 1.08, 0.65
Re: [Cooker] Package proposal: wallpaper-dir
On Wed Aug 13 10:38 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote: On 2003-08-12(Tue) 19:02:42 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: The attached specfile creates a dummy package which will create and own /usr/share/wallpapers/ which is currently owned by kdebase-common (and possibly by other packages). However, it is quite plausible that other packages that would have no reason to require KDE, thus implying that some type of ownership of that directory would be required. Actually I'd think this should be put into filesystem package instead, since filesystem package is already there for this purpose. Creating more packages solely for owning each directory sounds unnecessary and over-engineered to me. I'm not sure that this belongs in the filesystem package. To my thinking, only directories that one absolutely needs for a working system should be in filesystem. /usr/share/wallpapers doesn't exactly fit that description. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Megadeth - Rust in Peace - Lucretia Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 23:50:01 up 8 days, 9:08, 11 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: [Cooker] need for root password
On Tue Aug 05 15:45 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, we currently have a lot of things in Configuration- that prompt you for a root password, to run via su. If they could try running via sudo first, it may be better. KDE has an option for any link to run as another user, but it uses su. It shouldn't be too difficult to write a GTK- or QT-ified sudo... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - Vital Signs Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 11:33:00 up 20:51, 5 users, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.01
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mon-0.99.2-4mdk
On Tue Aug 12 15:00 +0200, Damien Chaumette wrote: - stick to #!/usr/bin/perl in each file If I could send packets to qa.mandrakesoft.com, I'd mark the relevant bug closed... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Nick Cave - Loverman.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 17:14:00 up 8 days, 2:32, 12 users, load average: 0.26, 0.20, 0.23
[Cooker] Package proposal: wallpaper-dir
The attached specfile creates a dummy package which will create and own /usr/share/wallpapers/ which is currently owned by kdebase-common (and possibly by other packages). However, it is quite plausible that other packages that would have no reason to require KDE, thus implying that some type of ownership of that directory would be required. This aims to solve that problem by abstracting the ownership of the directory; packages putting stuff in this directory would simply require this package and ownership is no longer a problem. This also clears the way for a standardized location for wallpaper files, regardless of source. Obviously similar packagess could be made for directories where multiple packages that have no need for dependencies or conflicts between them. WDYT? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - SM - No Leaf Clover Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 17:29:00 up 8 days, 2:47, 12 users, load average: 0.21, 0.20, 0.18 %define name wallpaper-dir %define version 1 %define release 1mdk Summary:Dummy package to own wallpapers directory Name: %{name} Version:%{version} Release:%{release} License:GPL Group: Graphics BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-buildroot %description A package that simply manages the creation and ownership of /usr/share/wallpapers, thus allowing multiple packages to put files (presumably wallpaper files...) in that directory without having Requires on unnecessary packages or encountering directory ownership issues. All such a package has to do is Require wallpaper-dir and those problems are gone. %prep %build %install rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_datadir}/wallpapers %clean rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT %files %defattr(-,root,root) %dir %{_datadir}/wallpapers %changelog * Tue Aug 12 2003 Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-1mdk - First attempt... let's see if this works...
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.13-1mdk
On Tue Aug 12 15:33 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=-- #!/bin/sh # update resolv.conf in postfix chroot environment cp -f /etc/resolv.conf /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf /dev/null -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=-- Maybe that script should be included in the postfix package with the sample configuration files...? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Nick Cave - Loverman.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 17:17:00 up 8 days, 2:35, 12 users, load average: 0.03, 0.13, 0.19
Re: [Cooker] Kmail Problem?? Possible Dup
On Mon Aug 11 9:18 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote: Does Kmail send this info somehow and if so, how can it be turned off? Yes. KMail is sending this information. Basically, it's the HELO part of an SMTP transaction, which is basically required by an SMTP transaction. It shouldn't be turned off; that would be a Bad Thing. KMail should probably be using something besides the IP (there are mailservers that will reject non-resolvable or non-FQDN hostnames). The output of hostname is probably a better option (though that would require working DNS). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Billy Joel - Glass Houses - I Don't Want to Be Alon Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 14:38:00 up 6 days, 23:56, 11 users, load average: 0.21, 0.30, 0.18
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kde1-wallpapers-1.1.2-3mdk
On Thu Aug 07 16:38 -0400, David Walser wrote: Levi Ramsey wrote: [Contrib-RPM] Name: kde1-wallpapers Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Thu Aug 7 21:58:08 2003 -=-=-=- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.1.2-3mdk - Own /usr/share/wallpapers Uhh...one of the whole points of distriblint is to make sure directories are *not* owned by more than one package. That directory is already owned by kdebase (correct) and kdeartwork (incorrect). Now you've made another package incorrectly own that directory. Okay... will fix... I've been getting distlint spam saying that one of my packages (which puts stuff in a subpackage of /usr/share/wallpapers) should be owning /usr/share/wallpapers... To be honest, probably the better solution is to create a package that simply creates and owns /usr/share/wallpapers (since that's in no way KDE-specific)... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Dazed and Confused.ogg Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 16:57:01 up 3 days, 2:15, 9 users, load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.10
Re: [Cooker] Silly kernel rpm dependancies...
On Wed Aug 06 12:39 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: cat /home/levi/.rpmmacros | grep _topdir Damned bash-completion... :o/ -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Hemispheres - La Villa Strangiato Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 15:08:00 up 2 days, 26 min, 15 users, load average: 2.03, 1.57, 0.88
Re: [Cooker] multi-gnome-terminal users?
On Wed Aug 06 22:48 -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: Just wondering if any reasonably recent cooker users are experiencing segfaults when starting multi-gnome-terminal or trying to create a new tab... Never mind... xfs needed to be started... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Jimmy Buffett - Don't Stop the Carnival - A Thousan Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 23:11:01 up 2 days, 8:29, 10 users, load average: 0.73, 0.73, 0.92
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.93-1mdk
On Wed Aug 06 13:18 -0700, Duncan wrote: On Wed 06 Aug 2003 12:12, Levi Ramsey posted as excerpted below: On Wed Aug 06 20:00 +0200, François Pons wrote: * Wed Aug 06 2003 Fran?ois Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.93-1mdk - added URPM::Signature for handling armored gpg file and internal rpm pubkey. Does this mean that urpmi won't prompt on PLF packages? If it does, then I worship the ground on which you walk... It hasn't been prompting me every since I updated the RPM GPG database with the PLF key (as we originally had to do with the Mdk keys as well, when rpm 4.2 came out, as the initial packages didn't import them automatically). I've attempted numerous times, using different downloads of the PLF key, to import into rpm... no dice. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Signals - Digital Man Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 17:40:00 up 2 days, 2:58, 15 users, load average: 0.49, 0.38, 0.28
[Cooker] multi-gnome-terminal users?
Just wondering if any reasonably recent cooker users are experiencing segfaults when starting multi-gnome-terminal or trying to create a new tab... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Metallica - SM - The Call of Ktulu Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 22:41:00 up 2 days, 7:59, 8 users, load average: 0.82, 0.92, 1.20
Re: [Cooker] need for root password
On Tue Aug 05 12:54 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mar 05/08/2003 à 02:41, Leon Brooks a écrit : On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:29, Buchan Milne wrote: You see, instead of making it easy for a user to log in as root to do tasks, we must remove the necessity for them to do the tasks ... Agree. The one task which my wife needs a root password to do is printer management. If it were possible to avert this OOtB, that would be good. sudo But it also needs to be integrated with the menus IMHO. Does kdesu etc work with sudo? What I'd like to see (though I don't use any DE, so that's not strictly true) is maybe having a right-click context menu in both KDE and GNOME where one option is run with sudo; if it could be set up to only display this after checking with sudo that the program is usable, that would be even better. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - Limelight Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 09:18:00 up 18:36, 5 users, load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.08
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
On Mon Aug 04 12:13 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Until we have a best practices for administrative accounts or similar document which the user will easily find (win2k3 has a document like this) which suggests never logging in as root etc etc (win2k3 suggests that you should never log in as Domain Admin, you should change the default Administrator account username, and disable the Schema Admin group on the Domain Controller), I don't think it is wise to make it easy to log in as root. I've been thinking that maybe a DrakSudo module in DrakX might be useful as well, to help get a working sudoers configuration. With a proper sudo setup, root login is truly unnecessary for a large percentage of administrative tasks. If this could be task-based, even better. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - YYZ Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 22:48:01 up 8:06, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.00
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Fwd: Aug 1 Cooker will not install from hd.img]
On Sun Aug 03 23:46 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: GC, Another serious deficiency discovered ... Actually, it's the same bug you've been harping on for months. Now calm down and have a nice cup of STFU. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Out of the Cradle Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 10:14:00 up 7 days, 13:01, 8 users, load average: 0.66, 0.64, 0.69
Re: [Cooker] Rolling out the welcome mat
On Sun Aug 03 20:52 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: But maybe the first user that logs in should be assumed to be the admin? Too risky. What happens when you forget about this and put hundreds of boxes out there whose first user will be an admin? Last question in the install: is the next user who will be logging in to this box an admin? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Freeze Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 10:06:00 up 7 days, 12:53, 8 users, load average: 0.81, 0.94, 0.81
Re: [Cooker] Re: To all those with local Cooker mirrors
On Sun Aug 03 0:25 -0600, Wesley J Landaker wrote: Hmm... well, that could be. I've just been believing what rsync tells me. ;) Looking back on my logs, the biggest syncs I've seen in the last few months have been about ~200MB; on most of those I save about ~60-70MB. So I'm saving some bandwidth on some other things somewhere--and, I am seeing some benefit on contrib which doesn't really any meta info files in it, except the synthesis.hdlist... But okay, still, say it turns out that it doesn't work for any of the RPMs, and I'm only saving badwidth on the deplist and friends--I'm still *overall* getting the speedups that I mentioned for the kind of synchronization schedule that I'm using. =) If I just ftp'd everything, that would be ~30% data I downloaded every time, whether or not it's RPM data. I guess if what you say is true, I'd get less of an [apparent?] benefit if I didn't sync as often, since the RPM data to depslist-type data ratio would be higher. Or you could just do as I do with fmirror: only download just enough metadata to allow gendistrib to work, and run that. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Sweet Miracle Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 09:58:02 up 7 days, 12:45, 8 users, load average: 1.82, 1.19, 0.73
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] starfighter-1.00-4mdk
On Mon Aug 04 3:13 +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: On Monday 04 August 2003 02:38, Robert L Martin wrote: It also serves as an flag that you would need the SDL libs installed to use the game (useful if on your system SDL causes a scrambled filesystem hangovers and other misfortunes) uhr, not really, you've got dependencies for that one I think he's talking about knowing not to urpmi this if SDL causes problems on one's system. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Moving Pictures - Tom Sawyer Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 21:36:00 up 8 days, 23 min, 8 users, load average: 1.53, 1.51, 1.13
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: [CHRPM] imap-2002d-3mdk
On Thu Jul 31 15:20 -0400, David Walser wrote: Kmail is a client and is not related with mailbox formats which is a feature of imap servers. Not sure what you're saying there. The only possible way there could be a problem, even given that IMAP and KMail use different mailbox formats internally and store them in the same directory, would occur if you're running them on the same system. How many IMAP servers have KDE (and people using KMail)? -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Rush - Here Again Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 08:03:00 up 5 days, 10:50, 8 users, load average: 0.51, 0.55, 0.39
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: [CHRPM] imap-2002d-3mdk
On Thu Jul 31 23:44 +0200, Luca Berra wrote: i would state that elm used $HOME/Mail for mbox formatted mail folders, and has been doing it for at least the last 15 years, so if kmail writes something different it is kmail which is broken *grin* Mutt does the same thing, but the difference between that and KMail is that mutt doesn't store internal state data in ~/Mail (as I'm getting the impression that KMail does). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Secret Touch Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 08:06:01 up 5 days, 10:53, 8 users, load average: 0.16, 0.36, 0.34
Re: [Cooker] arts obsoletes current kdebase
On Thu Jul 31 22:29 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote: $ rpm -q arts --obsoletes | grep kdebase3 kdebase3 kdebase3-nsplugins kdebase3-devel $ rpm -q --whatprovides kdebase3 kdebase-3.1.3-1mdk arts obsoletes current kdebase, how can I upgrade to kde 3.1.3 ? kdebase3 != kdebase -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Rush - Here Again Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 08:01:00 up 5 days, 10:48, 8 users, load average: 0.33, 0.62, 0.40
Re: [Cooker] Aug 1 Cooker will not install from hd.img
On Fri Aug 01 14:35 +0200, Marcel Pol wrote: On 01 Aug 2003 07:55:26 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 06:34, Adam Williamson wrote: Ah, it's another Ron Stodden Special. Had Ron bothered to READ the archives before posting his latest instalment of self-important bile, he'd've seen the post that told us that the -BOOT kernel currently being used is the one from 9.1, and the new one will be introduced soon. And we could all have been saved from having to read more of his tripe. Pity. The real pity is being forced to see the bile being belched forth from your own punk mouth, which could benefit from a few knuckles. Oh, come on. Ron Stodden is an accepted troll on this list. There's no need to be nice to him, sometimes you need to treat people like they treat you, and that's what Adam did. I'm not trying to be offensive right now, I'm just trying to say it as it is. I don't know how long Lyvim has been on the list. I had almost forgotten about the [not-so-]lovable Ron as he hadn't graced us with his presence in several months. It is quite possible that Lyvim hasn't seen a poorly-crafted troll from Mr. Stodden before. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Hemispheres - La Villa Strangiato Linux 2.4.21-3mdk 09:10:00 up 5 days, 11:57, 8 users, load average: 0.17, 0.33, 0.46