[CTRL] [2] Traffic in Florida
-Caveat Lector- from: http://ddi.digital.net/~kenaston/Patr/Traffic.html http://ddi.digital.net/~kenaston/Patr/Traffic.html">Traffic in Florida --[2]-- Nature of Public Highways "The right of occupancy of the street by the public is a mere easement or right of passage." (State ex rel. Harkow v. McCarthy (1936), 171 So. 314, 316 quoting Lutterloh v. Mayor, etc. of Cedar Keys, 15 Fla. 306, 308) "It is said that a common-law dedication does not operate as a grant but by way of estoppel in pais. A dedication is regarded not as a transferring a right, but as operating to preclude the owner from resuming his right of private property or from any use inconsistent with the public use. (23 Am Jur 2d, Dedication, s. 56) Under a common-law dedication, the fee does not pass from the grantor, as the public acquires only a right of easement in trust, so long as the dedicated land is used for the purposes of the dedication. (Florida State Turnpike Authority v Anhoco Corp. (1958), Fla App D3 107 So 2d 51)" (Fla Jur 2d, Dedication, s. 24) "The right to use a special facility * * * is not an inherent right in the public". "[T]he right of the citizens to travel the public highways (when not exercised as a means of conducting private business thereon) is subject only to the police power and of the power of taxation, and is an inherent right which, in its very essence, is quite a difference from the right to use a special facility * * * erected under a franchise." (Day v. City of St. Augustine (1932), 139 So. 880, 882)) [***] "There are certain methods by which the public acquires the right to pass and repass over a way thus establishing a highway. Those methods are by prescription or long user as such; by statute or statutory proceedings in the exercise of the right of eminent domain; or by dedication to the public by the owner of the soil with the sanction of the public authorities." * * * "The mere expenditure of public money upon the road under the agreement is not in itself sufficient to establish the highway." (Couture v. Dade County (1927), 112 So. 75, 79) [***] Extensive discussion of the rights of the public in public streets. McHarge v. Newcomer, 9 L.R.A.(N.S.) 298, 117 Tenn. 595, 100 S. W. 700. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) There is no substantial difference between streets in which legal title is in private individuals and those in which it is in the public as to the rights of the public therein. Montgomery v. Santa Ana & W. R. Co. 25 L.R.A. 654, 104 Cal. 186, 37 Pac. 786. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) The rights of the public in a street are precisely the same, whether the fee to the land is in the public or in the abutting landowner. Kellogg v. Cincinnati Traction Co. 23 L.R.A.(N.S.) 158, 80 Ohio 331, 88 N.E. 882. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) The public holds the title to streets and alleys in trust for the use to which they are dedicated when the fee simple vests in the public on the platting of an addition to a city. Jaynes v. Omaha Street R. Co., 39 L.R.A. 751, 53 Neb. 631, 74 N. W. 67. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) The rights of a municipality to the ownership of the fee of the streets are subject to the paramount right of the general public to the use of the streets and their control and improvement as the public interests may require in the discretion of the local municipal authorities. Chicago & N. W. R. Co. v. West Chicago Park, 25 L.R.A. 300, 151 Ill. 204, 37 N. E. 1079. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) A city holds its streets in trust for the benefit of the public, and cannot authorize their use for the sole and exclusive benefit of private individuals or corporations, to the detriment of the superior right of the public. People ex rel. Mather v. Marshall Field & Co., L.R.A. 1915F, 937, 266 Ill. 609, 107 N. E. 864. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) A municipality may determine the extent and manner of the public use of streets and may regulate the use by owners of the soil; but it cannot arbitrarily take away the property rights of such owners. Colegrove Water Co. v. Hollywood, 13 L.R.A. (N.S.) 904, 151 Cal. 425, 90 Pac. 1053. (L.R.A. Digest 1888-1918, Highways and Streets, 28.) FS 95.361 Roads presumed dedicated.-- (1) When a road, constructed by a county, a municipality, or the Department of Transportation, has been maintained or repaired continuously and uninterruptedly for 4 years by the county, municipality, or the Department of Transportation, jointly or severally, the road shall be deemed to be dedicated to the public to the extent in width that has been actually maintained for the prescribed period, whether or not the road has been formally established as a public highway. [ ] FS 335.01 Designation and systemization of public roads.-- (1) All roads which are open and available for use by the public and dedicated to the public use, according to l
[CTRL] [1] Traffic in Florida
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from:
http://ddi.digital.net/~kenaston/Patr/Traffic.html
http://ddi.digital.net/~kenaston/Patr/Traffic.html">Traffic in
Florida
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>From Walter's Web World at ddi.digital.net/~kenaston.
Traffic in Florida
Compiled, with comments, by Walter Bunn Kenaston;
Made possible only with the help of IAUE Aleim (the Lord God).
This information is provided for educational purposes that the people of
Florida
might understand how they have been deceived and that they may learn how
to
start to reclaim their God given rights.
Permission is granted to reproduce and distribute as is, without
changes, and
only without charge except for the reasonable costs of reproduction.
Not completed, last update: 16 April, 1999
The following information on traffic laws in Florida was compiled using
the Florida Statutes (F.S.); Laws of Florida; Florida Juris Prudence 2nd
(Fla. Jur. 2d) articles "Automobiles and Other Vehicles", "Decedents'
Property", "Courts and Judges", "Highways, etc.", and "Statutes";
Florida Words and Phrases; Florida Law and Practice; Black Law
Dictionary, 3rd Edition (1933); Black's Law Dictionary, 4th Edition
(1950/1957); Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Edition (1990/11th
reprint,1997); and other materials noted where applicable. But three
different versions of Florida Juris Prudence 2nd were used so the cites
to those may not match the edition available to everyone; in that event
use the case index to find the Fla Jur 2d section.
Though much of this information focuses on Florida, most information and
case cites are applicable in every state.
I have tried to give direct quotes where applicable; such quotes are
"quoted" with the case cite following (in parentheses), with the source
where I found the information/quote/cite following [in brackets]. Since
most of the information has been the result of my research, I can vouch
for the accuracy of the most material - with possibly some typographical
errors; but some material has been taken from internet sources which I
cannot vouch for - these I have preceeded with an asterisk ("*"). This
compilation is also not properly organized nor complete: I make notes
using two asterisks ("**") to mark areas that need further
research/attention.
Definitions:
Applicant - Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (1983)
one who applies or makes application, as for employment, help, etc.; a
petitioner; as, an applicant for charity
Applicant - Webster's Unified Dictionary and Encyclopedia, International
Illustrated Edition (1960)
One who applies.
Applicant - not defined in Bouvier's (1856)
Applicant - Black's 3rd
An applicant, as of letters of administration, is one who is entitled
thereto, and who files a petition asking that letters be granted.
Jerauld v. Chambers, 44 Cal. App. 771, 187 P. 33
Applicant - Black's 6th
An applicant, as of letters of administration, is one who is entitled
thereto, and who files a petition asking that letters be granted. For
purposes of letters of credit, the customer in the credit transaction.
Synonymous also with "account party."
Automobile - Webster's Unified Dictionary and Encyclopedia,
International Illustrated Edition (1960)
A vehicle moved by power produced within it, and not limited to
operation on rails; a motor car.
Automobile, a vehicle propelled by an engine within itself or by any
other means of power in itself. It was formerly called horseless
carriage. ***
Automobile - Black's 3rd
A vehicle for the transportation of persons or property on the highways;
carrying its own motive power and not operated upon fixed tracks.
Blashfield's Cyclopedia of Automobile Law, vol. 1, c. 1, sec. 1.
A wheeled vehicle propelled by gasoline, steam, or electricity. Stanlet
v. Tomlin, 143 Va. 187, 129 S.E. 205, 208. A self-propelled vehicle
suitable for use on a street or roadway. State v. Freels, 136 Tenn. 483,
160 S.W. 454; American-La France Fire Engine Co. v. Riordan (D.C.) 294
F. 567, 571. A vehicle designed mainly for the transportation of
persons, equipped with an internal combustion, hydrocarbon vapor engine
furnishing the motive power and forming a structural portion thereof.
American-La France Fire Engine Co. v. Riordan (C.C.A.) 6 F.(2d) 964,
967.
Etymologically, the term might include any self-propelled vehicle, as an
electric street car, or a motor-boat, but in popular and legal usage it
is confined to a vehicle for the transportation or persons or property
on terrestrial highways, carrying its own motive power and not operated
upon fixed tracks. Bethlehem Motors Corporation v. Flynt, 178 N.C. 399,
100 S.E. 693, 694.
The term "automobile" is often defined to be synonymous with "motor
vehicle." State v. Ferry Line Auto Bus Co., 99 Wash. 64, 168 P. 893,
894.
Chauffeur - Compiled General Laws of Florida, s. 1280 (1927)
"Chauffeur" shall include any person operating any motor vehicle as an
employee of the owner thereof: Provided, the term "chauffeur" shall not
apply to a person using a motor dri
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: a vet looks at Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- All for one, and one for alll.NATO is a masonic order, and NATO now uses the bible for evil, and not good; here we have my bible code as produced by the Gideon Bible Society, an International Order comprised at one time of "Christina Commercial Travelers". I Imagine the song Rocky Racoon will be revived pretty soon. All these people answer to the head man using the term loosely in our country; this is the man who said "hell no, I won't go", but he certainly can play war games in the safety of the oval office, when he is not commiting adultery on the sidefor our look into the Clinton Show Well, we have the music makersmake our day in the USA. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Fw: End Arbitrary Access to the Voting Boo...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 6:38:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Your logic is faulty, both of you. The reason there are disproportionate numbers of non-white people in jails and in prisons is because they are targeted, and in a large number of cases they are innocent. >> I can believe that minorities are targeted, there is lots of information that does not prove this, but hints very hard at it. I don't know about your statement that a large number are innocent, that would be very hard to prove. <> Many get more, much more than basic rights. Many get a chance to go to college. I had to pay to go to college and still owe a bundle of money for it, why should they get it for free when they broke the law and I did not. <> You sound like a bleeding heart, or you are an ex-con yourself. Rehabilitation is not an answer, punishment is. These people chose to break the law and should have to pay the price, but they don't ... the taxpayer does. Incarceration is very expensive and could be spent on better things rather than to confine those who choose not to fit into society. I don't feel sorry for criminals, think about the suffering they impose on others, their victims. They take property, beat people and even kill them many times without regret ... regret that they got caught, but not regret for their victims. Criminals also get a break ... more breaks than they deserve. There should be no paroles, there should not be so many unwarranted appeals. When they are sentenced to life ... they should die in prison, not get out in seven years. When they get the death penalty, it should be carried out one day later ... not letting them stay in prison 10-15 years till they can get a bleeding heart judge to commute their sentence to life in prison, or let then get away with murder altogether. What color or race they are should not matter, they have proven they cannot live in society in a peaceful manner and should be taken from the general populace to make life safer for the majority of citizens who control their behavior. As far as some laws being unjust ... yes some are, but there are ways to change them. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: [ThePentagonGuru] Here is the truth I
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List Members: here we go again...don't panic ! this will only have 2 parts !, ahem, this mail was sent by Scott Dykstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ( the same who sent the : analisys: russia prepares, america sleeps mail ) and because of the lenght 38 k I decided to divide it. I don't want to overflow your boxes. Midori Kurai Warrior for peace The Orwellian language of war In times of war, truth is the first casualty Pentagon briefings: An opportunity for doublespeak? By Norman Solomon SPECIAL TO MSNBC When terrorists attack us, they re villains. When we attack them, we re retaliating. That s an easy example of the doublespeak heard from government and the media when a nation goes to war. In this excerpt from The Habits of Highly Deceptive Media, Norman Solomon, takes a lesson from George Orwell to explain the logic of war reporting. +++this is truth and only truth. In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. GEORGE ORWELL AFTER U.S. MISSILES hit sites in Sudan and Afghanistan, some Americans seemed uncomfortable. A vocal minority even voiced opposition after the attacks in late August 1998. But approval was routine among those who had learned a few easy Orwellian lessons. When terrorists attack, they re terrorizing. When we attack, we re retaliating. When they respond to our retaliation with further attacks, they re terrorizing again. When we respond with further attacks, we re retaliating again. +++and becomes a media approved never ending circle When people decry civilian deaths caused by the U.S. government, they re aiding propaganda efforts. In sharp contrast, when civilian deaths are caused by bombers who hate America, the perpetrators are evil and those deaths are tragedies. When they put bombs in cars and kill people, they re uncivilized killers. When we put bombs on missiles and kill people, we re upholding civilized values. When they kill, they re terrorists. When we kill, we re striking against terror. +++Goebbels ( Hitler minister of propaganda ) must be happy: his lessons were well learned KEEPING HATREDS STRAIGHT At all times, Americans must be kept fully informed about who to hate and fear. When the United States found Osama bin Laden useful during the 1980s because of his tenacious violence against the Soviet occupiers in Afghanistan, he was good, or at least not bad-but now he s really bad. +++same heppende with Saddam Hussein, when he has with war vs Iran, he was one of the good guys, now, he is a tyrant. No matter how many times they ve lied in the past, U.S. officials are credible in the present. When they vaguely cite evidence that the bombed pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum was making ingredients for nerve gas, that should be good enough for us. +++ I don't know you, members, but it terrifies me , are we really so idiot as they think we are ? Might doesn t make right-except in the real world, when it s American might. +++as always, story is written by the winner. Only someone of dubious political orientation would split hairs about international law. When the mass media in some foreign countries serve as megaphones for the rhetoric of their government, the result is ludicrous propaganda. When the mass media in our country serve as megaphones for the rhetoric of the U.S. government, the result is responsible journalism. +++this paragraph says everything, is the most visible example of US government double standard. Unlike the TV anchors spouting the government line i
[CTRL] Fwd: Secret Motives for Kosovo War
Clinton Does Fulfill some Campaign Promises The main point of my E-mail is in relationship to the current events in Kosovo and Serbia.Like you, I have been concerned about risking Nuclear War, and Clinton, Albright, & NATO's motives for the swift military actions against Yugoslavia. Granted, I do not like the suffering of refugees, nor ethnic cleansing, but something here is amiss. I have also been concerned at the dangerous depletion of our advanced weapon stockpiles over such a distant region of the world. We the American people are not getting the full story on Yugoslavia. Clinton seems unable to identify our American interests there as a cause for war, outside of being "nice". Yet we may commit ground troops there soon. Several nights ago I watched a report on Rwanda in 1994. 800, 000 people were killed in short order. I was struck at the neglect of the US on this matter. I was also struck with the forewarnings that Albright allegedly received regarding the Nairobi, Kenya bombings and her neglect there. What strikes me is that there was very little geniune compassion from either Albright or Clinton on the decisions relating to these serious matters. The compassion with which we are being appealed regarding Kosovo therefore seems extremely disproportionate. Larger numbers are killed in hotspots around the world with less fanfare. Many of the atrocities seem unverified exaggerated and merely rumor, though I am sure that many thousands have indeed suffered gravely. I find that various accounts of Clinton's biography reveal that he can often have very little genuine compassion. He is a faker. But why would he fake this one? How was he able to lead NATO into this risky endeavor? I was in Brussels, Belgium last October and met with some people who mine ores in Rwanda. I was struck by the vast world class mineral wealth beneath the lands of Rwanda and how perhaps the people who occupied the lands, were "in the way". Journalist Michael Isikoff mentioned in his latest book on Clinton, that as a young man Clinton was saved from the Vietnam Draft through the interventions of then Governor of Arkansas, Winthrop Rockefeller.There is evidence that sometimes Clinton still meets regularly with a certain David Rockefeller. There appears to be a number of Rockefeller connections to William Jefferson Clinton.We may be correct in our suspicions that there is someone behind the scenes that has coached and groomed Clinton for the Presidency, and furthermore sustains his continued existence, against all odds.Clinton could have been preserved into power just for the occasion of the next few months and year.He probably feels that he cannot be impeached or harmed signicantly for failure. To the point: What ever became of Roger Tamraz? The Oil man that gave money to the DNC and had personal visits to the President? He lived in Egypt and Lebanon. Did Hillary visit with him or his confederates while in Egypt during the commencement of the Yugoslavian war just a few weeks ago? Oil is a great motivation for World War.The Japanese and Germans in WWII slaughtered for access to it.Oil motivated Desert Storm. Our Nation is in debt over $5 Trillion dollars. Many of our Allies have purchased hundreds of millions, even billions of our debt via Treasury Notes, Bonds and other monetary instruments. For Desert Storm, we were obligated to act as a protective umbrella to the nations whom we owed, acting to protect their interests. Today, many if not most of the NATO nations also own much of our national debt, and feel that we are obligated to protect and prosecute wars on their behalf, for their interests. Furthermore, if Clinton is beholden to say a David Rockefeller, he is personally in debt and must obey. Suppose both debts could be answered by starting a war? Suppose Clinton is willing to play high stakes poker, risking our national security, angering both the Russians and the Chinese, for a cause that if successful would please both obligations and bring him future financial rewards as post President? Suppose Clinton was willing to recklessly use his position, power and office, as the leader of the free world, to place both our national security (risking Nuclear War) and our men and women of the armed forces into harms way for personal gain? What about the pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Turkey? Has it's western junction been considered? I was gazing at a map of Albania the other day and I could see it is possible for a pipeline corridor from Istanbul West through a mountain pass over Yugoslavia and into Europe, via Germany. Wouldn't this be more environmentally friendly than using an ocean Tanker? However Yugoslavia would need to be stabilised. And what if a Tanker crossed the Black Sea from Georgia, would it not be safer with unstable Yugoslavia out of the way? The Rockefellers knew of the Caspian reserves even at the beginning of this ce
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: [ThePentagonGuru] Here is the truth, part II and final
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List Members this is the last part of the mail sent by Scott Dykstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> as always +++ denotes my interjections Midori Kurai warrior for peace LESSONS FROM ORWELL Circus dogs jump when the trainer cracks his whip, George Orwell observed, but the really well-trained dog is the one that turns his somersault when there is no whip. Orwell noted that language becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts. And his novel 1984 explained that the special function of certain Newspeak words ... was not so much to express meanings as to destroy them. +++wel said. National security. Western values. The world community. War against terrorism. Collateral damage. American interests. +++but the term "american interests " cover a wide range of actions, the fight in Kosovo, for exemple, is really for " american interests " ? What s so wondrous about Orwellian processes is that they tend to be very well camouflaged part of the normal scenery. Day in and day out, we take them for granted. And we re apt to stay away from uncharted mental paths. +++the average american citizen has a mental path clearly established and designed, government decides what they think , what they believe... I interject here several fragments of the lyrics of the song " eye of the beholder " by metallica, here you will read, albeit crudely, how is the society manipulation. " do you see what I see ? truth is an offence you silence for your confidence do you hear what I hear ? doors are slaming shut limit your imagination, keep you where they must do you feel what I feel ? bittering distress who decide what you'll express ? do you what I take ? endurance is the word moving back instead of forward seem to me absurd doesn't matter what you see or into what you read you can do it your own way if it's done just how I say independence is limited freedom of choice choice is made for you my friend freedom of speech speech is words that they can bend freedom with their exceptions --snip-- In 1984, Orwell wrote about the conditioned reflex of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought ... and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. ++total mind conditioning DOUBLETHINK DEFINED Doublethink: the willingness to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed. Orwell described doublethink as the willingness to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed. In his afterword to 1984, Erich Fromm emphasized the point which is essential for the understanding of Orwell s book, namely that doublethink is already with us, and not merely something which will happen in the future, and in dictatorships. Fifty-three years ago, Orwell wrote an essay titled Politics and the English Language. Today, his words remain as relevant as ever: In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. +++and because of that, we are mired in thousands of words, why the most assertive words are the most used ? " significative " is one of them. Repression and atrocities can indeed be defended, Orwell added, but only by arguments which are too brutal for most people to face, and which do not square with the professed aims of political parties. Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. +++al meant
[CTRL] Fwd: re: S.M.A.R.T. Issue #26
sub list 4/17/99 Hi ! Attached please find Issue #26. A home page should be available for this issue at: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/index2.html">S.M.A.R.T.'s Ritual Abuse Page in the next few days. Special on last conference's tapes - US $36 ($40 Canada, Mexico; rest of world $44) for 9 tapes (for a limited time only). Please go to http://members.aol.com/smartnews/SMART-1998-conference.htm">S.M.A.R.T.'s July, 1998 Ritual Abuse Conference Tape Information and see attached issue for tape information. Ten Percent off 1999 conference registration if fees and forms are received by 5/15/99 - http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/SMART-1999-Conference.htm">Ritual Abuse Conference - 1999 Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Neil Brick This is the subscriber's copy of Issue #26. S M A R T (Stop Mind control And Ritual abuse Today) P. O Box 1295, Easthampton, MA 01027-1295 USA E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/index2.html 1999 conference information: http://members.aol.com/smartnews/ smart-1999-conference.htm Issue 26 - May 1999 The purpose of this newsletter is to help stop secretive organizations and groups from abusing others and to help those who have been allegedly abused by the Masons, Mormons, government agencies and other secretive groups. This newsletter is not a substitute for other ways of recovering from ritual abuse. Readers should use caution while reading this newsletter. If necessary, make sure other support systems are available during and after reading this newsletter. Important: The resources mentioned in this newsletter are for educational value only. Reading the books cited may or may not help your recovery process, so use caution when reading any book or contacting any resource mentioned in this newsletter. Some may have a religious or other agenda that may be separate from your own recovery process. Others may have valuable information on the Masons and other organizations, but have triggers or be somewhat sympathetic to those organizations. Resources listed, quoted and individual articles, etc. and their writers do not necessarily support all or any of the views mentioned in this newsletter. Also, the views, facts and opinions mentioned in this newsletter are solely the opinions of the authors and are not necessarily the opinions of this newsletter or its editor. Copyright 1999 - All rights reserved. No reproduction of any material without written permission from the editor and individual authors. Ten Percent off 1999 conference registration if fees and forms are received by 5/15/99 - see website listed above Special on all 9 tapes ($36, in US) from our 1998 conference until 5/15/99 - see page 11 for ordering information Editor's Page The following article is by Neil Brick, the editor and founder of S.M.A.R.T. With an often biased media barrage that the false memory syndrome exists, even those survivors with a great deal of documentation and many years of memories may occasionally doubt their memories. I wanted to share a few quotes from: "Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and Hammond," (ISBN 0-393-70254-5) W.W. Norton and Co. New York and London, C 1998 (http://www.wwnorton.com) Page 365-366. The book has excellent information about memory studies and a chapter called "The False Logic of the False Memory Controversy and the Irrational Element in Scientific Research on Memory" (pg. 382) >From chapter 11: "A Critical Evaluation of the Memory Scientific Experiments," section: "WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT MEMORY FALLIBILTY?" "Loftus's claim that human memory in general is fallible (1979a,b) and that therefore memories recovered in psychotherapy are equally fallible (1993) is both overstated and oversimplified (Koss et al., 1995)." The conclusion that "negative emotional arousal hinders accurate...memory" (Loftus, 1980, p.78) is misleading..." Loftus' conclusion only applies "to laboratory simulation studies of memory for complex visual presentations" when a certain type of information is measured. "These simulation studies rarely show memory fallibility with respect to the emotional arousing event itself." Generalizing findings on memory fallibilty are misleading when "certain types of visual information presented in the laboratory" are transferred to the "autobiographical memory of patients in psychotherapy." "The early studies... led to a distorted view of memory fallibilty because they were biased toward assessing memory performance in terms of" all the information contained in "a complex visual stimulus presentation (Clifford & Hollin, 1981;
[CTRL] Fwd: The End Of Sovereignty
_ Exegesis A Compass For Moral Excellence Published Worldwide From Washington Special Edition April 18, 1999 http://www.sm.org/exegesis Check the news any time with our online daily newspaper Page 1 News http://www.sm.org/news ExTel - Featuring Our Wholesale Long-Distance Services THE PROBLEM: ANOTHER OUTRAGEOUS PHONE BILL THE ANSWER: ExTel's wholesale services! PremierCom: our flagship 7.5 cent a minute service super-discounted international and instate rates. http://ld.net/7.5/sm.org AccuLinq Calling Cards at 9.9 cents a minute and no surcharge - great for travelers! http://ld.net/linq/?sm.org ICE Prepaid Calling Cards at 8.9 cents a minute: great for college students and gifts http://ld.net/ice/?sm.org National Unlimited Internet Service at $14.95 a month http://surfcheap.com/?sm.org See our full range of services at http://ld.net/?sm.org The End Of Sovereignty With this edition, this column celebrates its fourth birthday, and my, how it has grown! Thanks to our devoted readers, this small soapbox has grown into a podium from which to share observations about the onward march of history. Thank you so much for your encouragement, guidance and comments. We are celebrating with a double length edition. When we began, I'll admit I was naive. I thought Republicans and Democrats were opposites. I still had faith in justice, politics, the electoral system, the integrity of the British Royal Family and the sovereignty of nations. I believed that politicians really intended to keep their promises. I no longer believe any of those things. It isn't that I've become cynical: cynicism is skepticism without knowledge. Rather, I now know how things work. I now understand almost all politicians are actors, some more polished than others, who play different roles in a worldwide repertory company owned and operated by a surprisingly few multinational business leaders. And the leading actor, he who remains in the White House despite all the odds, has ensured that we have not lacked for stories. He has never disappointed us: he has gone from bad to worse, from mischievous playboy to demonic tyrant. Above all, these four years have confirmed two trends: first, a considerable acceleration of the pace at which Western nations are discarding the sanctity of national sovereignty in their unseemly rush toward a global government for which there seems to be little popular support; and secondly, the systematic hypnotization of the American people into an Orwellian trance, never better illustrated than in the current rash of propaganda about the bombing of Yugoslavia: "War brings Peace! Killing is the way to save people. Ignorance is Strength! Freedom is Slavery!" Ah yes, and at Clinton's Animal Farm, some animals are most definitely more equal than others: indeed, some are still alive, but others are not; some are wealthy, others are neglected; some are intimidated, yet others tell the truth. According to the governments participating in the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, the justification for this military operation is to stop the "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo, never mind that the West ignored it in Bosnia, Tibet, Rwanda and elsewhere. It is said that Kosovo is seeking independence from Yugoslavia, a sovereign nation which has not attacked or threatened any of its neighbors. Maybe so, but what differentiates it from Chechnya, Scotland or the Palestinians? Are we going to bomb Moscow, London and Jerusalem too? Shall we bomb Istanbul and Athens in protest at the Cyprus problem? Shall we bomb Ottawa to help the cause of Quebec? How about bombing China to free Tibet? Amnesty International's 1998 Report describes one nation where torture and racial abuse and aggravated sexual abuse by the police is common, as well as ill-treatment of immigrants, the use of chemical sprays against non-violent demonstrators, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in prisons, including rape and sexual assault of female prisoners, and racially motivated prosecutions. The same nation is described in the 1998 report of Human Rights Watch: they refused to ratify several human rights treaties, obstructed the development of international human rights, and used assault vehicles and chemical weapons against its civilian population, including women and children. Shall we bomb that nation too? And which nation are the reports describing? You guessed it: it's the United States of America. Are we going to bomb ourselves too? This is a civil war, though the occupant of the White House, whom other NATO nations seem reluctant to criticize, has led the Western world into a ferocious assault on the pretext of a humanitarian right and duty to intervene in that civil war. The excuse is flimsy and the real truth lies el
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Tatum
From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear David: I have responded to this message - this exact message - three times now. As of my last information received less than two weeks ago, Chip Tatum is alive and well on an island off the coast of Central America. My source seemed credible. I have no other information at this time, however the timing of the information I received is well after Hurricane Mitch. Certain interests and operatives who are affected by the pending lawsuit of former Green Beret William Tyree have been going to great lengths to discredit Chip Tatum and Bill Tyree lately. These attempts have included direct contacts with me by former and retired Special Forces troops. They sure haven't been able to dissuade me. As I have told them I totally vouch for Bill Tyree and can only partially corroborate Chip Tatum. My reasons for making that statement is that I have documents and witness statements that totally corroborate Tyree. I have seen no independent corroboration of Chip's material and thus can neither totally endorse or deny it. For the record, Chip Tatum is a subpoenaed witness in the Tyree lawsuit against the CIA and George Bush filed last fall. Much of what is happening to discredit Tatum at the moment is directly connected to that case. He has not been served because U.S. Marshalls are officially unable to locate him. Further significant developments in the Tyree case will be reported in the next issue of my newsletter, From The Wilderness. Subscription information is available at www.copvcia.com. Mike Ruppert -Original Message- From: David H. Stern, M.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 8:23 PM To: Mike Ruppert Subject:FW: Tatum *** PGP Signature Status: unknown *** Signer: Unknown, Key ID = 0xEBBF18AA *** Signed: 4/18/99 8:18:20 PM *** Verified: 4/18/99 11:00:00 PM *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Mike: Have you heard anything on this? ~~ ** ** __ \/||\/ \\ //|DEEP TIMES NEWS SERVICE |\\ // \\\///| http://www.copi.com/articles |\\\/// || \/| Encrypted Email Always Gets Preference |\/ XX||XX \\\///| See http://www.pgp.com/ for PGP 5.0!! |\\\/// \\XX//| Encryption has never been so easy! |\\XX// ~~ PGP Fgrpnt: 5906 0722 DB5F 5692 CAB1 F93A 04F8 2220 EBBF 18AA -Original Message- From: enlace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tatum Recent reports have the body of ex-cia officer Chip Tatum dead. His body washed up on the shores of a central american nation following Hurricaine Mitch...please verify Sam *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today!
[CTRL] Fwd: Day 27, Update 1 (Apr. 19; 1:00AM GMT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special "Kosovo Crisis" Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. DAY 27, Update 1 -- Apr. 19, 1999; 1:00AM GMT HEADLINES Belgrade 1. A Spell at Guard Duty on Brankov Bridge Novi Sad2. Dancing on the Bridge (By Randall Major) London 3. NATO Gears Up for Invasion at End of May? London 4. British & American Special Forces Help Drug-Dealing Maoists Washington5. Gen. Clark's Hoof in Mouth Disease Vranje 6. Human Suffering: Joy for Sick Minds England 7. Some Brits Ready to Call it Quits? -- 1. A Spell at Guard Duty on Brankov Bridge BELGRADE, Apr. 18 - Despite the blustery winds and sharply lower temperatures after the thunderstorm blew over Belgrade this afternoon, several hundred people, including this writer, gathered this evening on the Brankov bridge as "human shields" against NATO's bombs. The bands played, the singers sang, the speaker spoke, and the actors performed on an improvised stage, under the glare of flood lights. A cold drizzle, the rain mixed with snow, dampened the atmosphere but not the spirits of the people on the bridge. In the end, it turned out to be the quietest evening so far during your editor's stay in Serbia. Which was a welcome respite after last night's fireworks. Or one should perhaps not speak too soon, as the night is still young ? -- 2. Dancing on the Bridge (By Randall Major) NOVI SAD, Apr. 18 - The informed world is astounded. The crazy Serbs have turned out enmasse, to stand in the dark on their bridges, disregarding the air raid sirens, to sing and dance, to shout cries of rebellion at NATO, the most incredible superpower ever to exist. Are they insane? Are they just victims of a propaganda war? What is, indeed, wrong with these people? As a Texan, as someone who lives among the people of Novi Sad, I can claim with confidence: there is nothing wrong with them. Imagine for a moment that, for whatever reason, a massive air armada was threatening YOUR bridges. Stop and think. If someone were to demolish London's Tower Bridge, how would your lives be affected? How would the people of New York feel if some horrid force destroyed not only the Tri-Burrows Bridge, but also the Brooklyn Bridge? How would your lives be changed then? Or the Golden Gate Bridge. How would you feel if a MIG suddenly appeared and shot out the center section? As a Texan who grew up in a family of hunters, I must admit: my first thought would be to take the .243 Remington my daddy gave me as my first hunting rifle and go stand on that bridge. To shoot at whatever terrible flying machine that might approach it. Or the .270 Winchester my brother and I both used to hunt deer in our childhood. By God, even my daddy's old 16-gauge shotgun. I would defend those bridges with my whole heart, lay down my life if necessary. Take a map. Look for yourself. Where would you have to go to reach your destinations if those bridges were suddenly gone? How would you get to work, return home, or go shopping? Then understand. These people are fighting for their bridges, because their bridges are their lives. Is the Brooklyn Bridge a "military target"? A similar bridge in Novi Sad, Yugoslavia, was proclaimed so. It is now a crumpled mass in the swirling Danube. Is travelling to see loved ones in Mill Valley a military operation? How many times have you seen tanks on the bridges of your town? Ever? The very same is true here. In thirteen years here, I've never seen even a military jeep on those bridges. Never. It is not that the people of Yugoslavia don't have guns. They do. They are hunters and sportsmen very much like many of the people of my native Texas. But they leave their guns at home. They sing and dance, they celebrate their bridges, fighting against brute force with their love for life and for their bridges. Are these the "Serb butchers" as proclaimed by NATO and the mass media? I hardly think so. As an American, it just makes me stop and wonder. Where would WE be without our bridges? The next time you drive over a bridge, think of it laying crushed by a Tomahawk missile. How will that make YOU feel? The very fact that NATO is blowing up Yugoslavia's bridges is symbolic in a way. Each time a bridge goes down, a tie with the West is broken. A childhood memory is obliterated. Loved ones are separated. And anger grows towards the ones who have done it. By blowing up the bridges, NATO countries are cutting all ties between themselves and the ordinary citizens of Yugoslavia. How will those ties be reestablished in the future? And who will rebuild the bridges? How long will it take? Every bridge and each victim in this nonsensical war widen the gap and extend the time it will take for th
[CTRL] EXECUTIVE ORDERS
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.connecti.com/~knobby/tyranny.html http://www.connecti.com/~knobby/tyranny.html">VOL I - Tyranny - Thanks to Outlaw lady. Om K - EXECUTIVE ORDERS Let's eyeball the executive branch of the national government. This will be a beauty! Caesar is alive and well in Washington, D.C. You better believe it. Earlier mention was made of executive orders. Our research shows the first use of these orders was by President George Washington for household expenses. It was an order signed by him for normal expenses which would be accepted by the Treasury Department and paid. Simple enough. The Federal Bureau of Investigation was formed under an executive order by Teddy Roosevelt on July 26, 1908. The first time it was used to make a law was in 1916 by President Woodrow Wilson. It was said to be an 'emergency' measure and Congress was encouraged to validate it. They did. The door was now open to ignore the Constitution. This is the same method used by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933 to close all the banks in the country. Remember our gold? Americans were ordered to turn in all their gold to local banks. AFTER this was done, King Roosevelt, by executive order, raised the value of an ounce of gold from $20.00 to $35.00! Guess who that benefitted? International bankers and central banks around the world . . that's who. Americans who turned in their gold were royally screwed. What are the duties of the executive branch? To make laws or to see that they are faithfully executed? Nothing in our Constitution allows the president to pass a law or make a law under any circumstances. Nor is there any suggestion that the Congress can delegate their lawmaking authority to the executive branch, emergency or no emergency! Yet they have done it and they continue to do it without any permission in the Constitution or any amendment. How do they ignore their oath to uphold and support the Constitution? Why not ask them? Let's explore their law making activities . . . government uses a publication called the Federal Register where all regulations are published daily. (Regulations? Where the hell did that come from?) This publication amounts to more than 70,000 pages a year. Here is where the executive orders are published. When they appear, they remain in limbo for 30 days and the Congress or any citizen can write and object to it. 70,000 pages a year would take a full-time staff member of each member of the Congress to watch and study these 'regulations'. Congress pays no attention to the Federal Register. At the end of the required thirty days, all these regulations become 'law' and have the full effect of law! There are occasions where these are challenged in courts when they have affected some individual and a few have been overturned. See how simple they have made it? Write it, put it in a federal publication and if no one says anything about it, it mysteriously becomes law. All sorts of regulations from every division of the executive branch are published in the Federal Register and this is where all the goodies are listed. If you doubt the 'laws' in the Federal Register have teeth, write the Government Printing Office and request a copy. What happened to the concept that only the Congress can make a law? Did you say it was OK or was there an amendment passed by the people allowing this to go on? Now let's look at some of the real dirty work they have done with executive orders. . There are over 12,000 laws of this type on the books now. Congress, when asked, does not even know what they are. This is our lawmaking body. Part of the government that is supposed to "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty" . . . snicker, snicker . . . This one is really scary . . . A blueprint for a dictatorship! Executive Order No. 11921 was published in the Federal Register in June 1976 and updated since. This is the master plan for tyranny and the death of our Constitution. All the President has to do is declare a national emergency and big brother will or can take over every form of newspaper, radio and television stations. They will confiscate your CB's, weapons, tell you where to live, work, how much food you can have, establish rationing and price controls. In effect, they can declare martial law and you will not be able to do anything about it. Neither can the Congress. Can you imagine a law like this on the books in this country? All they are waiting for is a certain set of circumstances and someone who wants to be a dictator and away we go. If you haven't heard or read about Executive Orders, this one especially, let me break the bad news. It's on the books. Most bureaucrats and their egghead lackeys, when asked about this executive order, will say it only concerns the orderly control of the country if we have a nu
[CTRL] Fwd: second part WRENCH
It was this growing group-mind of knowledge that, in time rallied to name the culprit, and "blow the man down". So, this was "Pass & Stow". Or, "pass it on", and "stow it", meaning save and remember. These men saw secrecy as counter to the public good. They saw secrecy as sick. When the Constitution was first penned, without the Bill of Rights, this world-wise international group sod "Oh no, not more sovereignty and secrets. We know what that leads to!" This was a loud collective voice. These were the hands that turned yonder windlass, raised the anchors, and set the sails that moved the cargos upon which the fortunes of our young nation completely depended. And further: many who were first taught "Pass and Stow" as seasick ordinary seamen on first voyages were now Owners and Masters: men of fortune, no small voice. It was this voice in unison that sent the founding fathers back to Philadelphia to do some rewriting. The name of the sadly forgotten corporation in Philadelphia which keeps and preserves the Liberty Bell is "Pass and Stow". This too-soon forgotten, but ancient marine reason is stopping not on him or her but you. This "Pass and Stow" is a responsibility: for if Liberty is to be tolled for you, it must be told by you. You are the addressee: not him or her, but you. This "Pass and Stow" concerns, in some deep measure, the news. But it is not new. It is the same old story, changed only, but with utmost import, by the possibility of being too late: but it is not new: In some forgotten Byron canto he railed at the "Gazettes" He pointed to them living it up in Falmouth, England then compared them to, and rhymed it with, the regiments they were carelessly replacing. This is the same old story. It is not a new story, but there are higher stakes. This is a true story. I beg the reader forgive some unavoidable short dullness in one part or another, but I am being exact. It would have been so much easier on me, and you the reader, to have composed this in that genre of truth-hidden-as-fiction. That, however, would soften some much needed sting. For, as this is a careful and truthful account, it is also a deposition: a depository of accusation. I accuse. This is the truth. It is far from entirely dull. There is the Mafia, there is a Kennedy, there are spies there are lies. There is high drama and expose'. There is some romance. But, unfortunately, those things are not important here. This is critical information. This is bad news. To bring you this needed bad news I must not coddle your need for entertainment. You will have to make an effort to learn something new. There are some pearls in front of you, but you must be teachable. To be teachable you must see yourself as ignorant, and this, again unfortunately, is a reluctant vision to just those who have the capacity to learn and to benefit and to benefit others. This is bad. This is critical. I accuse. This is a warning. This is war. How teachable are you? Every day countless commuters from the Hamptons on Long Island and the bedroom communities of Upper Westchester and the Montclairs and other port-over-starboard--home sections of Jersey read the New York Times on their daily rides. These are the bright. and the creative and the influential. They read and they think and they are in the know. No. They do not even know what they are reading. Every day for weeks in June of 1993 a full page ad appeared in the Times. Ostensibly it was an ad for Citibank. The headline, in biggest letters that any art direction could compose, stated simply: "CITIBANK INVITES YOU TO A PRIVATE SALE." The small body copy under the headline talked about Citibanks Citicard. Nothing in the body copy related to a private sale. Only by very obscure and convoluted stretches of reasoning could you even begin to connect the body copy to the headline. The ad ran full page for weeks. Not cheap. Any junior copywriter would be fired for such a headline. But it ran, full page, every day in the Times. But millions of the bright and the influential and those who are in the know and aware saw this every day for weeks, the biggest ad in the paper. Certainly they would notice this. No, they did not. It is amazing that the biggest "secret" messages are hidden in the open. A reasonable person would question what I just said. "Large secret messages in newspapers, in the biggest ads, where the ads don't even make sense and people don't notice? No raised eyebrows? Not likely!" Nevertheless it is true, and with a little effort you can see for yourself. I wouldn't believe it. I didn't believe it. I had to be shown. I would respect you, the reader, if you had to be shown too. I have included some copies of some ads, (they are in the appendix, but that is not enough. Best to see the real thing. Busy person? Fine, have one of your kids do it at their college library. Give your secretary's secretary something to do. The topic is war. So let us look
[CTRL] Fwd: first posting: WRENCH
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c/o [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flight 800 discussion list) - I am back at my explanation to Sammy concerning Admiral Michael Boorda. This will form a general background concerning the media's reaction, both to Boorda and flight 800. Again, I place the responsibility for the deaths of those 230 squarely upon the media. (Before I forget, I made yet another error. Armenians in my house on Look Street? They were not from the staff of the US Rep who wrote the letter to Secretary Cohen. Umm, I have a dreadful time with these names..., not starting with a 'T' and rhyming with 'traffic' as in traffic cop, but a U.S Senator from N.J.; starting with a 'T', but sounding more like an Italian pasta type..., ending in, I think, 'elli'. But, I think was then a Representative, not a Senator.) Notes: I most likely would not choose Pollard to show injustice now. I would be fighting too much the 'emotional bonding' of the American group mind as programed by mass media. However, because it is there, (and perhaps our number three to the lsoft would assist us with the microfiche), understand that the real hot point was his being too forward in his thinking. Only once in the New York Times was something mentioned concerning his thinking. The word 'China' was in that sentence. Do correct me if I am wrong, librarian. That the Office of Naval Intelligence was involved with Koslov in California and Washington, and involved with the assault on me after the interrogation in Groton was an assumption of mine. Naval Investigative Service in confusion and reluctance put me in some party's clutches before that assault. In retrospect it could well have been BATF or other. Though Special Agent Michael Lawrence, Naval Intelligence, Newport was involved in the Walker/Witworth cover-up. That is first hand, not an assumption. There the US Navy had to be involved. The rest assumption, but if I had to pick one more that the others, it would be Treasury. Marshall Houston should have a particular interest in WRENCH. There is some detail concerning how the coming Balkan war was tried back in 1994. Before some party (dankashane) threw something in the gears. Didn't get rachetted up. I am concerned that my prose will get scrambled, as some posting are with sentences that run off the page. I have tried to contact LSoft 800 'list owner' so that my own postings are sent to me also. No reply. As I would be far more concerned with my poetic endeavors here posted, let me post a little doggerel and see what happens. Perhaps some gentleman here will let me know if either or both is getting scrambled or not. Rose hips is our flower >From far far strange China; It spread from a wreck near our shore. Now deep in our hearts comes a song from old China, The secret of old China lore "Listen, be quiet, put finger to lips: Our rose is from China, the rose of rose hips. This rose is the secret from old Emperor Wu Tui: The secret of wars that kept apart you and me. But high in the clouds where the Old Sailor walks They wait for the day when a new China talks." First little bit of WRENCH follows. Hang in there for a few more postings. You'll be glad you did. = WRENCH By Michael Donovan Mailed September 23 1993 Dear Madam, Kind sir, You haven't heard it all. I will tell you things that are not new, but different. Different in that it will give you a small bit of the perspective reserved just for rulers. A perspective that you do not now have. After World War II the person best in military intelligence in the west, in this case naval intelligence, was not made head of the CIA. He was made head of Time Magazine. He could not write, and he could not edit, but that was not his job. Hedley Donovan's job was to know the 'big picture'. Later in life he quietly served on President Carter's cabinet, again with just the job of watching this 'big picture'. There were things that he taught my Father, Jeremiah Donovan, while at Time, which I wish to pass on to you. (No, no relation, and no relation to 'Wild Bill' either.) So, even if in assured privilege, without any excess baggage of pride, you still consider yourself among the elite; I insist again, you have not heard it all. You will thank me. Do not read this if you are tired. But do read this. I had addressed this account. In mind I had others whom I would copy. Now, I can no longer vision a particular reader, for what is becoming the final product of many stammered starts and fear fraught fits is turning from explanation to warning. But, yes, this had been addressed at various times and with various shades of pique concerning our judicial system, to Pollard, a naval intelligence analyst convicted of talking to friends in Israel, and his wife - Henderson who first tried to fo
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: Priates and Freemasonry
Do you know what year that Morgan was governor of Jamaica? Did the pirate Morgan have any connection with Sir Henry Morgan, who is mentioned in T.R. Fehrenbach's book, Lone Star: A History of Texas and the Texans, which says "Morgan had raided the Caribbean coast and looted Panama with only the flimsiest license. But the English freebooters, in most Anglo-Saxon eyes, served a national and ethnic as well as a personally profitable purpose. The freebooters did not, or were supposed not to, attack their own kind; they confined their damage to the King of Spain--an acient, historic, religious, and ethnic, if not always admitted, enemy. "Sir Henry Morgan, the freebooter supreme, was considered to have done necessary things his own cowardly government would not, or could not, approve. The French had this same class of entrepreneur in the Gulf and Caribbean and called them boucaniers, and in the 17th and early 18th century French and English buccaneers often were allied. Freebooter came into the French language as flibustier, and then, through a curious process back into American English as filibusterSignificantly, Spanish never adopted a term for freebooter or buccaneer. All such men were called simply piratas, or pirates. When filibustero came into Spanish usage, it referred to American insurgents against the Spanish Crown." from pp. 115-16 What's interesting about Jamaica is that I have found in a book about the first centennial of Texas Scottish Rite freemasonry that the Grand Lodge of South Carolina was sponsored by the Grand Lodge of Paris, and that the biggest lodge in America was in Jamaica; it was the headquarters for the lodges that sprang up in New Orleans and later in Texas. What is further intriguing about Jamaica is that it became a center for intelligence operations for such men as Sir William Stephenson, Major Louis Mortimer, Ferenc Nagy, Georgio Mantello, Clay Shaw, Jean de Menil, Paul Raigorodsky and John Connally. Has anybody ever inquired if these men were all connected by a thread of Scottish Rite freemasonry? Linda Minor -Original Message- From: St. John The Sublime Reformer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: alt.freemasonry,alt.illuminati,alt.masonic.members,alt.conspiracy Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Priates and Freemasonry >In article , > "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello; >> >> Can anyone enlighten me if any pirates were Freemasons. I think there is a >> connection between when the Templers went underground and driven out of >> Europe and Piracy. Especially down by the Gold Coast and the Medetterian >> Sea. Any additional help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Fraternally yours; >> >> Bro. Gary A. Fields, PM >> Commonwealth Lodge #325 F. & A. M. >> of Wisconsin >> http://userpages.itis.com/camelot6 > > >Gary the Naval Battle Ensign of the Knights Templar Fleet based at >New Rochelle France was the Skull and Cross Bones as of course was >the Naval battle ensign of Captain Morgans "Bucaneers". > >The Pirate Morgan was operating against Spanish Catholic interests which >were representing Christendom under the authority of the Holy Father in >Rome at the Direction of the British Crown and Masonic interests. > >Captain Morgan was eventually rewarded for his unequalled stream of >thievery, piracy, rape, pillage, and murder of innocent men, women, >and children by being appointed Lt. Governor of Jamaica which had >been his base. > >Morgan a Freemason called his lieing, thieving, murdering, raping band >of scum the "Bretheren of the Coast". > >The blood of millions of Christians has been shed by Freemasons throughout >history. > >Freemasons were active conspirators in the Islamic "Jihad" that ransacked >and murdered it's way through the Holy Bizantine empire and sacred >Constantinople and Jerusalem. > >Today Freemasons in North America who have achieved the 32 degree may >join something called the Ancient and Noble Order of Knights of the >Mystic Shrine, commonly called the "Shriners". > >The shrine in question is the "kabba" stone in Mecca to which all Muslims >face when they worship. > >Shriners where something called a Fez. This Fez is red in colour and dates >back to the Muslime "jihad" in Moracco where Islamic soldiers dipped their >cap in the blood of decapitated Christians they had just murdered. > >Shriners also frequently name some of there "clubs" janiceries. The Janiceries >were the kidnapped children of christians forced into the sultans army >who acted as suicide troops after they had been indoctrinated. > >Muslim armies invaded and destroyed all the Christian lands in present >day Turkey and got as far as the gates of Vienna. The Muslim armies would >approach a village or town and demand unconditional surrender. If the >town did not obey they would kill all the men and old people, sell the >young women into slavery and put the young boys in the janiceries. > >This is what the Shriners are name
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Must read--Canadian & Swedish informed comments on Balkans War (fwd)
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:51:52 -0700 From: Kim Scipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Labor Research and Action Project <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Must read--Canadian & Swedish informed comments on Balkans War April 18, 1999 Folks-- I have received two e-mails in the past few days from my friend, Sid Shniad of Vancouver, B.C., Canada, that I think are excellent and deserve your attention. I don't know how widely they've been posted, but I believe both deserve wide posting. I've combined them into one message. The first is from a retired Canadian major general Lewis MacKenzie, who commanded UN troops during the siege of Sarajevo in the Bosnian civil war of 1992 and who is currently reporting from Belgrade. The second is by Dr. Jan Oberg, Director and head of the TFF (Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research in Lund, Sweden) Conflict-Mitigation team to the Balkans and Georgia. My apologies for any cross-listings. Please pass on widely--they'll tell you a lot about the the war, and how it is being presented by the US/NATO and the mainstream media. Best wishes to all-- Kim Scipes US Marine Corps, 1969-1973 The Vancouver Sun April 15, 1999 A Soldier's View: REPORTERS PRESENTING DISTORTED VIEW OF WAR IN KOSOVO P.R. firms make combatants' cases to the public. One firm claims it introduced the terms "holocaust, genocide, ethnic cleansing, and concentration camps" to the lexicon of the war. By Lewis Mackenzie BELGRADE The media coverage of this war, which according to NATO is not a war, is becoming less and less relevant to an audience that would opt for balanced reporting if it had the choice. During the Second World War and Korea there were often days of delay between the events and their coverage. We saw clips of the war in movie theatres before the Saturday matinee feature film. In Vietnam there was no declaration of war and therefore no restrictions on the media. If they could talk their way on to a helicopter they could get anywhere. Their reports dominated the supper-time newshour in the U.S. War came into the living room as "entertainment." The British learned from the American experience and during the Falklands War kept a tight grip on the media with surprisingly little protest from the reporters who clearly understood they could contribute to a speedy victory. In the Gulf War, the U.S.-led coalition, mindful of the Vietnam experience at one extreme and the Falklands at the other, worked out a compromise that saw the use of media pools whereby some journalists were given access and subsequently shared their experiences and film with their colleagues. By the time the war in Yugoslavia exploded on to the scene, most of the combatants had hired North American public relations firms to spin their case to the public. One Washington-based firm continues to brag on its Web site that it successfully introduced the hot terms "holocaust, genocide, ethnic cleansing, and concentration camps" to the lexicon of journalists covering the war. And so we arrive at the current war in the Balkans and yet another variation on the theme. The international media in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia are concentrated in Belgrade in general, and the Hyatt Hotel in particular. We all watch international and local television, monitor the radio and newspapers, and interview local citizens and government officials when we have the opportunity. The remainder of our colleagues are located in neighbouring countries such as Macedonia and Albania, with a few in Yugoslavia's Montenegro. By now you will probably have recognized the uniqueness of the reporting on this particular conflict: Absolutely no one, on either side, is reporting from where the actual fighting and alleged human rights abuses are taking place Kosovo! It is as though the province did not exist, even though it's the reason we are all here. I considered asking permission to drive from one end of the province to the other, along with a CTV news crew. However, knowing that if my request was approved we would undoubtedly have a military escort, I decided that NATO fighters would probably have a difficult time seeing a 12-inch PRESS sign from a few thousand feet and at 965 kilometres per hour. Not a good idea. The media have a phenomenal influence on public opinion. A few weeks ago one U.S. congressman said that although more than 90 per cent of his constituents could not find Kosovo on a map, 74 per cent wanted to bomb anyway. When it is all over, hopefully, the media will be brave enough to judge their coverage objectively in preparation for the next living room war. One of these wars, we will get it right. Retired major general Lewis MacKenzie commanded UN troops during the siege of Sarajevo in the Bosnian civil war of 1992. > > > >C O V E R I N G U P N A T O ' S > > > >B A L K A N
[CTRL] Carl Johnson - Report of Investigation
-Caveat Lector- from: http://jya.com/jg121098.htm http://jya.com/jg121098.htm">Carl Johnson - Report of Investigation - This is just a small part of an over 100k extant file on the case at the site. Om K - 27 March 1999 Source: Hardcopy from Seattle, WA, postmarked 12 March 1999. See related files: http://jya.com/cejfiles.htm Note: xx indicates that text was not legible. REPORT OF INVESTIGATION (Inspector General - Washington, D.C. 20224) Office of Origin: Treasury Inspector General for Tax AdministrationDate of Report: [Blank]xxxe (Name and address): JOHNSON, CARL 702 Railway Bienfait, Saskatchewan Canada Type of Investigation: Assault Type of Report: [ ] Preliminary [X] Final [ ] Supplemental Social Security Number: 456-45-0297[ ] Employee [ ] Applicant [X] NonemployeeDate of Birth: May 6, 1949Place of Birth: [Blank]Position and Grade: [Blank]Headquarters (City): [Blank]Date Entered on Duty: [Blank]Post of Duty: [Blank]Period of Investigation: April 21, 1998 - December 10, 1998 [Blank] Distribution No. Case Number: 7-9804-029 Signature of Special Agent Making Report: Jeff Gordon [Signature] Inspector General For Tax Administration 2 Regional Inspector for Investigations 1 Asst. U.S. Attorney 1 Signature of Person Examining Report: R. E. JOHNSON [Signature] Other (Specify):Title: Supervisor-In-Charge (Acting) Office (City): Seattle Form 2028.WR Rev 01/99Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration - Investigations 1 REPORT OF INVESTIGATION (Chief Inspector - Washington, D.C. 20224 Type of Investigation: Assault Case Title: JOHNSON, CARLCase Number: 7-9804-0029 BASIS OF INVESTIGATION On April 21, 1998, Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Investigator STEVE FOSTER identified CARL JOHNSON as the subscriber of an Internet account which was involved in threatening activity. BACKGROUND On April 1, 1997, IRS Inspectors executed a search warrant on the residence of JAMES BELL (case 7-9610-0046). BELL was the proponent of a scheme he called "Assassination Politics", where anonymous persons could use the Internet to post a reward for the death of Government officials. In BELL's scheme, an assassin could place a "bet" on which day the Government official would die, and then collect the reward if his death prediction was accurate. BELL often discussed the Assassination Politics scheme with an Internet discussion group known as the "Cypherpunks". BELL had discussed the scheme in e-mail messages with a Cypherpunk using the name "TOTO". BELL was arrested by Inspectors on May 16, 1997. Copies of many of the documents involved in the BELL investigation, including copies of the search warrant, were posted to the Internet by members of the Cypherpunks. RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION On September 30, 1998, JOHNSON was indicted for violating Title 18, United States Code, Section 115, Threatening Federal Officials. DETAILS OF INVESTIGATION (EXHIBIT) On June 23, 1997, an anonymous message was posted on the Cypherpunks Internet group. The message stated that a "Dead Lucky" Assassination Politics (AP) computer program (Bot) had been implemented due to the "unconstitutional actions of Federal employees". The message listed as "leading eCa$h candidates for dying at an opportune time" three IRS Inspection employees and a Magistrate Judge, all of whom were listed on BELL's search warrant. The posting included dollar figures for each person named. (3, 2) On September 4, 1997, a second anonymous posting to the Cypherpunks group also discussed "Dead Lucky", and cross-referenced an Internet Web Page. The Web Page contained the actual interactive Dead Lucky program, and stated "If you can correctly predict the date and time of death of others, then you can win large prizes payable in untaxable, untraceable eca$h". The site also stated that until rules were posted it was for entertainment purposes only." (4, 5 ) On December 9, 1997, an encrypted message was anonymously posted to the Cypherpunks group titled "Encrypted InterNet DEATH THREAT!!! / ATTN: Ninth District Court Judges / PASSWORD: sog". This message contained additional threatening statements involving appeals court Judges hearing an encryption case, and contained the statement "I can also be tied into Jim Bell's Worldwide Conspiracy to assassinate government authorities, through my implementation of an Assassination Bot..." (6) RCMP Investigator FOSTER reported that the RCMP was investigating CARL JOHNSON regarding documents on his Internet web page, and had executed a search warrant on (8, 9) Form 2028.WR Rev 11\95Department of the Treasury - Internal Revenue Service 2
[CTRL] FreeS/WAN Project: Home Page
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeswan/ http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeswan/">FreeS/WAN Project: Home Page - Online Documentation FreeS/WAN Download News Related Tools Helping Out Bug Reports Maillist & Archives IPSEC Community History & Politics Credits Home Page Linux FreeS/WAN is an implementation of IPSEC & IKE for Linux. IPSEC is Internet Protocol SECurity. It uses strong cryptography to provide both authentication and encryption services. Authentication ensures that packets are from the right sender and have not been altered in transit. Encryption prevents unauthorised reading of packet contents. These services allow you to build secure tunnels through untrusted networks. Everything passing through the untrusted net is encrypted by the IPSEC gateway machine and decrypted by the gateway at the other end. The result is Virtual Private Network or VPN. This is a network which is effectively private even though it includes machines at several different sites connected by the insecure Internet. The IPSEC protocols were developed by the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) and will be required as part of IP Version Six, the next generation. They are also being widely implemented for IP V4. In particular, nearly all vendors of any type of firewall or security software have IPSEC support either shipping or in development. There are also several open source IPSEC projects. Several companies are co-operating in the S/WAN Secure Wide Area Network project to ensure that products will interoperate. There is also a VPN Consortium fostering cooperation among companies in this area. Our project's primary objective is to help make IPSEC widespread by providing source code which is freely available, runs on a range of machines including ubiquitous cheap PCs, and is not subject to US or other nations' export restrictions. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Lightcraft/Laser Drive
>>>Date: 17 Apr 1999 03:13:55 - >>>To: List Member <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Mailing-List: ListBot mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>From: exoScience <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: (eS) Flying saucers! >>> >>>exoScience - http://www.exosci.com/ >>> >>>Hey everyone, >>> >>>"It looks like another fine product of Area 51, and it really is shaped >>>like a flying disc, and would even fly like one." >>> >>>The NASA-supported 'Lightcraft' project is involved in testing a >>>saucer-shaped vessel which is lifted to great heights by a high-powered >>>laser. The laser superheats the air beneath the craft, causing it to >>>expand and provide the propulsive force needed. >>> >>>Even more interesting is that the craft would be able to behave very >>>differently than conventional aircraft. "Switching on the microwave >>>transmitter would make the Lightcraft disappear in less than an eye blink >>>... as the Lightcraft accelerates to 25 times the speed of sound." >>> >>>Be sure to check out the whole article at: >>>http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/prop16apr99_1.htm >>> >>> >>>Thanks to Hrvoje Horvat for pointing the story out to me: >>>http://www.open.hr/space/space/links_e.html >>> >>>Dave Watanabe >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>SUBSCRIBE / UNSUBSCRIBE @ http://exoscience.listbot.com/ >>> >>> >>>__ >>>To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ >>> >>> >>" >> >
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Premonitions of Evil
Sunday, April 18, 1999 Ever get a premonition that something was about to go terribly wrong? You know, that sick sinking sensation in the pit of your stomach that happens just before you get some bad news? Or possibly what some people call Visions when you sleep, and the dream becomes a reality. These premonitions come in many forms to many people. The older we get the more we learn to trust these unexplained prewarnings in a hope to prevent tragidies. I was listening to todays broadcast on RealPlayer from Yugoslavia. The Yugoslavian governemnt is making plans to put in its crops within the next few weeks. Thats when the Pit of my Stomach sank inside, clear to the spinkter above my chair. Yugoslav Radio is a more crude form of our own propaganda machine here in the United States. Most of us all recognise this. Ours is more slick, more entertaining, more convincing to the masses of being the truth. We invented the Mediums of Television and Radio. Our sales force, with degrees in Business and Sales have their prerequisite courses in psychology and use that knowlege to perfect these means of manipulation of the masses. Looking at Yugoslavia on a map, one can realize that she can be considered to be under siege. Many of the personal equipment issued to the worlds soldiers include items that once disappeared with the advent of Fire Arms. Helmets and Body Armor became a thing of the past by the late 18th and for the entire 19 centuries. Though in vastly different configurations of material, we have, for the sake of personal protection, regressed in some senses to an earlier time of the mounted knights on the battle field. In America's present Architectural Design, we have seen the return of Urban First Line Defence regress to the days of Fortified and Walled Cities. We call these Gated Communities. I predict what we are about to see, from the International Level, clear down to the Local Communities, will be the return of Siege Warfare. In Mideval Times, Siege warfare took place against strong castles with store houses briming. The invaders were denied any of the crops in the fields as the peasents burned these at the approach of an invading army. So that an attacker had to either be better supplied to wait out the seige against the defender, have an Engineer Corp to overcome the fortifiaction. This was the end for the necessity of Walled Cities and Castles. With todays mention of Yugoslavia's resolve that they have plenty of everything, that Nato Bombings have done little to disrupt supplies to it citizenry, and that they will continue with the planned Sewing of Field Crops, reminded me of a Siege Warfare Tactic. The defenders would burn thier crops and wait it out while the attackers starved. I believe what we will see will be the opposite. I predict, Nato will spray or burn the crops once they have grown to the point that it would be too late to replant in time for harvest. Considering their climate I would say in June and July. In retalliation, thier agents working abroad will devistate the crops of the Nato/Axis Powers once these grains have reached the Gainery Silo's! Think of it. If an agressor of greater industrial powers than our own were to destoy all of our crops before harvest, what do you think would be the justifiable retalliation? For you folks in South East Michigan, especially Chelsea, I'd be buying up all the Jiffy Mix in sight. Immagine the stored grains for livestock, Pets, and Human Consumption. And what is the greatest fear in the media today concerning terrorism? Chemical and Biological Warfare! So, in accordance with governmental regulations all our water supplies are being checked on a more than periodical basis in order to detect any tampering with Biological Substances. But these fools called lawmakers have never worked for a living. They know little of how the aggricultural supply line works. Farmer Jones of Stockbridge Michigan, each year hires crew of migrant workers to pick his produce. At the end of the growing season, he uses his choicest of farm hands to deliver to the Grainery in Chelsea, his wheat which is used as pastry flour. Upon his arrival at the Jiffy Mix Plant in Chelsea, he slips one of several vials in his possession into the grain as it is being lifted into the silos. Months pass, and the vial has now broken down in the metane rich environment of a silo, and a deadly virus is released undetected into the human food chain and is on its way to become products bound for the grocery shelves across the nation. Jiffy Mix's single largest customer is the US Government for food for the mess halls of service personnel. Instant cake mixes, Pancake Mixes, Muffin Mixes. All of these the government buys prepacked in plain brown paper barrels. For those of you who are not aware, Battle Creek is home to more than Camp Custer, it is home to the world famous Kelloggs company. Their largest single customer? You
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: a vet looks at Kosovo
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List Ok, once more, slowly... News-Minute April 19, 1999 Lonnie Shoultz Everyone needs to just relax, take a deep breath and calm down. There is nothing coming from Washington that we have not heard from this White House, in one form or another, in the past. We heard "ethnic-cleansing" in Slovenia, Rwanda, Croatia, Ethiopia, and Bosnia. "Humanitarian crisis" has been the rallying cry in Somalia, Haiti, Rwanda, and in the Sudan. The biggest difference in this latest Balkan adventure and the others is that this time Slobodan Milosevic may have a better legal defense than ever before. Clinton warned of the end of Western Civilization and began the ensuing bombing campaign in Kosovo on 24 March, 1999. Anyone still in doubt about the reason we are scorching the earth in rump Yugoslavia needs to log onto USA Today, or any other good Internet news site that allows you to read the news on a certain date, and read the news stories that were dominating the mainstream news in the few days before the bombing. You will find the news beginning a drumbeat about declassifying the Cox Report, the "Chinagate" spy scandal, and Johnny Chung's decision to turn "state's evidence" against his Chinese spymasters and the American politicians who took their money. What could save President Clinton from being branded a traitor and his National Security Advisor, Samuel K. Berger, a former registered lobbyist for Communist China, from following him before the bar of justice except a good, old fashioned war. Lo and behold, up jumps Kosovo. While you are surfing the Internet reading about the genesis of the crisis in Kosovo, surf on over to the NATO website. Yes, NATO has a website. Read "The North Atlantic Treaty." Unless you just want a souvenir, don't even bother to download the Treaty. The Preamble, all fourteen Articles, and the footnotes only cover a scant four printed pages. You don't need to be an international lawyer to understand the language. Even one of President Clinton's high-priced mouthpieces couldn't dissemble the straight talk in this Treaty. The Preamble of the North Atlantic Treaty begins, "The Parties to this Treaty reaffirm their faith in the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments." That seems to be plain enough. The signatories acknowledge the supremacy of the United Nations in international affairs. The first four articles are equally as benign as the Preamble. The members of NATO simply pledge to settle disputes peacefully, strengthen their democratic institutions, agree to maintain their individual armed forces to help in aiding the others, and agree to consult with each other before they collectively beat the tar out of someone. Article five of the Treaty is the "action" clause and needs to be stated here in full since it governs the action in Kosovo. "The parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defense recognised (sic) by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security." Now, what is tough to understand about that? If attacked, all members of NATO agree to defend one another until the Security Council of the United Nations can restore order. However, the Treaty does specifically require that "all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council." Uh-oh, that means that Clinton, Blair and Schroeder are about three weeks late in getting to the Security Council. We all understand why they have not taken the problem in Yugoslavia to the United Nations. Russia and China (and possibly France) would use their permanent membership on the Security Council to block any action in Yugoslavia. But the Treaty the NATO allies all claim as the Bible for the crisis in Kosovo states they must IMMEDIATELY report their actions to the Security Council. If you're in a penny, you're in for a pound. If the NATO allies want to use their Treaty as the legal cornerstone for bombing Yugoslavia, they cannot only follow the parts of the Treaty that are convenient. They must adhere to all of its provisions. One of the beauties of international Treaties is that they leave no wiggle room. "All" means "all measures taken as a resu
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Day 26, Update 1 (Apr. 18; 3:00PM GMT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on Kosovo Crisis
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List FROM BELGRADE, SERBIA The Special "Kosovo Crisis" Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. DAY 26, Update 1 --- Apr. 18, 1999; 3:00PM GMT HEADLINES Somewhere in Serbia 1. Angry Skies Over Serbia Pancevo2. Huge Toxic Cloud Unleashed by NATO Bombs Washington 3. Senator Inhofe Says Clinton's Illegal Troop Deployment Is Already Under Way India 4. Bharatiya Janata Party Condemns NATO Air Strikes Czech Rep. 5. A TiM Reader: Czech Polls Also Suspect; Sounds of NATO Aircraft Are Not Bulgaria6. WSO President: "I Cannot Be Indifferent" -- 1. Angry Skies Over Serbia A TOWN IN SERBIA, Apr. 18 - "What is the whether like where you are?", a young doctor asked a friend located in a town some 100 miles away. "Unfortunately, it's clear and sunny today." "Oh, shucks!" In most places around the globe, people cheer the "nice, sunny" days. In Serbia, they dread them. Because the deadly payloads which the NATO has been dropping on the country for 26 days now are likely to intensify in clear weather. Last night was clear night. And it was one of the most devastating in the northern part of Serbia. The town in which this writer spent the night was in the thick of things. The NATO "concert" started at about 8:40PM on April 17. At least that's when the air raid sirens went off. As the night progressed, the sounds of war symphony coupled with human agony grew louder until the final crescendo in the early morning hours. All the while, your editor stayed on-line, writing the Day 25 Bulletin, and occasionally answering the reports which we have been receiving daily from TiM's eyes and ears all over Serbia, and from around the world. Here's an excerpt from one such exchange with a journalist friend in New York, which took place "live" last night at 9:30PM GMT: JOURNALIST: "I do understand why you are so upbeat to be in Belgrade very much! I'm quite jealous myself. I so admire the Serbs and their defiance - God Bless them each and every one." TiM Ed.: "Thanks for your support Right now, we are under another air attack. The anti-aircraft artillery is drowning out the sound of the airplanes' jet engines. Loud explosions all around. It's hard to see what is being hit. The only thing visible are the AAA tracer rounds. Yet here I am writing and hopefully sending this e-mail to you. Life goes on, as it will well after NATO's dogs of war are locked up in a kennel." Before that, however, they continue to bite everything in sight. Ten minutes after the above message was sent, a huge explosion shook the neighborhood. For a few seconds, the sky lit up as if it were the Fourth of July fireworks. Instead, another million dollar NATO/Pentagon missiles was blown to smithereens before reaching its designated target. Which appeared to be a nearby bridge (also see a photo of AAA fire over Belgrade - at our Web site). At about the same time, TiM's correspondents from Novi Sad reported that the second largest city in Serbia was once again under heavy attack. And again, the Novi Sad refinery, which has not been active for eight years (!), was among the NATO targets. The refinery ceased its production when the oil pipeline which runs through Croatia was cut off in 1991, when the civil war in the former Yugoslavia broke out. A few minutes later, a deep thud shook the ground in our neighborhood. In the morning, we found out that some empty barracks, a couple of miles away, which had been hit before, were hit again last night. Both that and the Novi Sad example, illustrate the pointlessness and ineffectiveness of NATO's bombings. They scare the local civilians out of their wits, night after night (and sometimes in broad daylight, too), without achieving any military objectives whatsoever. (continued in the next story ) 2. Huge Toxic Cloud Unleashed by NATO Bombs PANCEVO, Apr. 18 - Last night's attack against a Pancevo chemical factory was a case in point (see above). The NATO bombs caused huge fires which released toxic fumes into the atmosphere. This afternoon, as your editor returned to Belgrade, a plume of black smoke was visible from 50 miles away. And even now, at about 3PM GMT, the black toxic cloud is clearly visible over the northeastern Belgrade suburbs from this writer's hotel. For your information, Pancevo is about as close to downtown Belgrade as Central Park is to the World Trade Towers in New York. Here's an excerpt from an e-mail which we've just received from two professors of the Belgrade University: "We are faced with serious ecological catastrophe. Heavy bombing of the factories of the Petrochemical Complex in Pance
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis -- April 19, 1999
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update April 19, 1999 Weekly Analysis: Understanding the War in Kosovo in the Fourth Week Summary: The war in Kosovo grew out of fundamental miscalculations in Washington, particularly concerning the effect Russian support had on Milosevic's thinking. So long as Milosevic feels he has Russian support, he will act with confidence. If Russia wavers, Milosevic will have to deal. With the air war stalemated and talks of ground attack a pipe dream, diplomacy remains NATO's best option. That option depends on Russian cooperation. However, Russian cooperation will cost a great deal of money. That brings us to the IMF, the Germans, and former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, who is Russia's new negotiator on Serbia, a leading economic reformer and a good friend of the West. Analysis: On March 24, 1999, NATO aircraft began to bomb Yugoslavia. We are in the fourth week of the campaign, which now appears to be a stalemate. NATO is unable to force Belgrade to capitulate to its demands using the force currently available. Yugoslavia is unable to inflict sufficient casualties on the attackers to dissuade NATO from continuing the campaign nor has it been able to drive a wedge into NATO from which a peace party might emerge that is prepared to negotiate a conclusion to the conflict on terms favorable to Serbia. As in most wars, the rhetoric on both sides is filled with purple prose, horrible accusations and much confusion. Given that the current stalemate cannot be maintained indefinitely, we are, almost by definition, at a turning point. While the stalemate can, theoretically, go on indefinitely, neither side has it in its interest to permit this to happen. NATO's unity is fragile at best, particularly if the conflict fails to resolve itself. Yugoslavia is losing valuable economic assets that it would rather not lose. Since neither side appears ready to capitulate and neither side wants the current stalemate to continue, it is useful to consider, leaving rhetoric aside, how we got here and where all this is likely to go. It is clear to us that the war began in a fundamental miscalculation by NATO planners and particularly by the civilian leadership of the United States: Madeleine Albright, Sandy Berger, Richard Holbrooke and the President. They made a decision to impose the Rambouillet Accords on both sides in Kosovo. It was simply assumed that, given the threat of bombardment, Slobodan Milosevic would have no choice but to capitulate and accept the accords. By all accounts, Richard Holbrooke, architect of the Dayton Accords and the person most familiar with Milosevic was the author of this reading of Milosevic. Holbrooke had good historical precedent for his read of Milosevic. After all, when Serbs in Bosnia were bombed in 1995, Milosevic capitulated and signed the Dayton Accords. Holbrooke's reasoning was that history would repeat itself. The evidence that Washington expected capitulation was in its complete lack of preparation for an extended conflict. At the time the air campaign began, NATO had about 400 military aircraft available for the campaign, with less than 200 hundred for bombing missions. Even with the availability of cruise missiles, no serious military observer, including apparently senior U.S. military officials, believed this to have been anywhere near the amount required to inflict serious damage. Indeed, most observers doubted that an air campaign by itself could possibly succeed without a ground campaign. Thus, Washington and NATO were either wholly irresponsible in launching the campaign with insufficient forces, or had good reason to believe that Milosevic would rapidly capitulate. Since Albright, Berger, Holbrooke and the President are neither fools, nor irresponsible, we can only conclude that they were guilty of faulty judgment about how the Serbs would respond. There are three reasons for the difference in Milosevic's behavior in 1999 and 1995. First, Kosovo is strategically and psychologically critical to the Serbs. The demands of the Rambouillet Accords were crafted in such a way that the Serbs were convinced that NATO occupation would mean the loss of Serb sovereignty over Kosovo. Thus, where NATO was calculating that Milosevic could not survive politically if he brought a bombing campaign on Serbia, Milosevic was making the exact opposite calculation: that he could not survive if he accepted NATO's demands. In fact, Milosevic's view was that a bombing campaign over Kosovo would increase his domestic political power, by positioning him as a champion of Serbian national unity, thereby limiting the ability of his opposition to oppose him. The second reason had to do with the shift in
[CTRL] OEN 4/18/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - Year 2000 US Cities Building Secret Y2K Bunkers Gotta protect government officials AMERICA'S major cities are preparing secret command centres and making plans to mobilise armed troops in the event of a possible breakdown of social order if there is widespread computer failure on the eve of 2000. City fathers are known to be concerned that the so-called Y2K bug could cause widespread power failures, the breakdown of traffic management and difficulties in running everything from airports to ambulances. The result is a revival of the bunker mentality not seen since the end of the Cold War. Last week New York revealed that its new $12 million emergency command centre was: "Ninety per cent complete but fully operational." The 23rd-floor, 46,000 sq ft complex, near the World Trade Centre in Manhattan, can house up to 100 of the city's most senior employees and is protected behind a wall of bullet-proof glass. It was built above ground because of the risk of flooding from broken water mains. Mayor Rudi Giuliani ordered the construction of the new control room only last year. While it is designed to deal with any emergency from a terrorist attack to a hurricane, the speed of its construction suggests that New York's planning for possible Y2K chaos is at an advanced stage. It was used for the first time during a snow storm in February. Other areas are taking similar precaution. State officials in Ohio announced last month that they were ready to move government operations into a $13-million bunker eight miles outside downtown Columbus on Dec 29. The command centre will be manned 24 hours a day from New Year's Eve until it is no longer needed. It is surrounded by barbed wire, with underground dormitories, a filtered air supply, food and water. The Ohio state officials say that it will be used to co-ordinate relief efforts if there is a major failure of public utilities. The centre's director of operations is James Williams, a retired Army National Guard general who insists that the decision to man the centre for the end of the Millennium is "not a panic situation. If nothing happens, we can go home and watch football." Los Angeles, which experienced serious rioting following the Rodney King trial in 1992, is understood to be preparing an operations centre five floors beneath a federal building in the centre of the city. The Automated Traffic Signal and Control Centre (ATSAC) is normally used to manage traffic in the notoriously congested Los Angeles area but has the advantage of dozens of remote-control cameras at strategic road junctions which could become the eyes and ears of emergency planners. The ATSAC command centre is also designed to be proof against earthquakes and nuclear explosions, and is protected by four vault doors similar to those used in banks. It has its own power system and can be reached only by a secret lift. American government officials have admitted that they have no idea of the possible disruption that the Y2K bug could potentially cause on the most technologically dependent nation in the world. As in Britain, government bodies as well as private companies have been racing against time to ensure that the computers which run everything from nuclear missiles to air traffic control are reprogrammed to work normally from January 1. The Y2K computer problem is caused by some computer chips reading the year 2000 as 1900 because they only recognise the last two digits, and therefore either malfunctioning or shutting off the system they are controlling. Washington has been playing down fears of disruption caused by Y2K computer crashes. Tens of thousands of Americans are less confident, however, and are actively preparing for the worst. Stocks of oil lamps and wood stoves are almost exhausted in many areas, along with supplies of dried foods in quantities which would allow a family to survive for a year. The US Treasury is also preparing to print hundreds of millions of extra dollars because it believes huge numbers of people will take out extra cash before the New Year as a precaution against cash machines failing to work. The question of civil disorder is more sensitive. Responsibility for keeping law and order will rest with the National Guard, a part-time force which has access to guns, tanks and even fighter aircraft. Secret discussions are understood to have taken place at the Army Readiness Centre in Washington last summer to prepare for Y2K-related problems. National Guard units are organised by state but are said to be co-ordinating with Federal agencies on a new command and control system with high-frequency radios, emergency power backup and command centres to be ready by the end of the year. A full recall of all 370,000 and 110,000 army and air National Guard members can only be authorised by Congress and has not taken place since 1940. An initial st
Re: [CTRL] Resurrecting the Reichstag
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 4:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Rebuilt German Reichstag Is To Open By ANNE THOMPSON .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) -- What hasn't happened to the Reichstag? It was burned during the Nazi era, bombed by the Allies, and stormed by Red Army soldiers who scrawled obscenities on the walls and planted the red Soviet flag on the roof, marking the defeat of Hitler. East Germany built the Berlin Wall just a few steps from its back door. And after the Wall came down, the artist Christo wrapped the Reichstag in a million square feet of silvery fabric, a celebration of the end of communism. Now the old parliament has undergone yet another transformation. After a $330 million renovation, the Reichstag debuts Monday as the reclaimed seat of German lawmakers, a defining episode in the government's return this year to the prewar capital of Berlin. >> Well, the END is truly nigh, no? This is a good thing? And with a war in Europe already. Nostadamus, that date in July is looking awfully good about now. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Truth on Trade
-Caveat Lector- It seems everyone in D.C. claims to believe in "free trade," but the meaning of the phrase is being drained out through sheer political hypocrisy. A true free trader is not a supporter of export subsidies and bailouts, foreign aid and mercantilist trade treaties, centralized executive power or global environmental regulations. Simply put, a free trader is a person who wants tariffs, quotas, and other barriers to trade repealed, beginning with those erected by one's own government. But as the pseudonymously written article below explains, there are few if any free traders left in D.C., despite all the rhetoric. As this "senior diplomat" points out, the World Trade Organization has become, not a facilitator of true trade liberalization, but a setting for "a chain of legal wars." What a sad commentary on the political culture that the person who reveals such truths publicly must do so without signing his real name. The Journal of Commerce February 17, 1999 Negotiating trade in a world without free traders By Frank George Benoit So, we're in 1999 and a new round of multilateral trade negotiations is supposed to be in the making. But the more papers we read and the more private talks we have with key decision-makers around the world, the more doubtful that supposition seems. At this stage, there just does not seem to be a clear pattern of consistency between what trade diplomats are ready to say at World Trade Organization headquarters in Geneva and what is in the daily signals coming from most of their capitals. Nobody is fool enough to deny the existence of WTO commitments to deepen the package of disciplines and concessions related to agriculture, services and some areas of intellectual property rights. Almost everyone is ready to say that closing markets would further complicate the uphill battle against financial crisis, economic recession and social unrest. But the sense of global-phobia is there nonetheless. The most active incidence of global-phobia is found among most of the membership of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, but it also touches several key Asian, Latin America and African countries. The signs of it are not directly reflected in public statements. They are mainly present in forms of self-explanatory body language that appear in most of the informal talks taking place around the planet. The message is clear. Nobody will fail to participate in the WTO's mandatory rituals. But, at least for the time being, not many players can be counted among the real practitioners of the trade-liberalizing faith if that means signing on to additional or immediate trade surgery for sensitive sectors. Blunt diplomacy allows players to declare a loud and ambitious "yes" to the general script while giving a flat "no" to actual progress by coming up with unattainable or absurd proposals at the critical moment. These days Geneva is covered with ambitious informal proposals and ideas, most of them deal-breakers that are not worth the paper on which they are printed. The obvious example of the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do recipe for paralysis is the United States. From the beginning, President Clinton's administration has proved unable to define a clear trade policy. Meanwhile, it has passively watched the departure to the private sector of most of its experienced negotiators, thus paving the way for a possible skills shortage. You don't train a trustworthy, experienced trade negotiator in a few classes or in a partisan headquarters. Moreover, by now it is widely believed that the administration cannot realistically expect to win fast-track negotiating authority from Congress for the rest of its tenure in office. Its team remains convinced that an eternal bullying pace will continue to serve well the U.S. trade interests. The Clinton administration is proposing an "ambitious sectoral approach" for which it lacks a congressional mandate, and has no apparent goals other than putting on a public relations show. But it is uninterested in getting down to action. In practice, the administration has an open mind for some clearly identified interests -- electronic commerce and information technology being among the chosen few -- and a "let me think" attitude for everything else. It does not want an agenda in Geneva loaded with any issues that are sensitive at home. That means little room for the core traditional process, which relies on giving a piece of cake for every WTO appetite. Experience a
[CTRL] Kosovo and an American contradiction
-Caveat Lector- FRIDAY APRIL 16 1999 Alan Keyes is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host. His WorldNetDaily column appears every Friday. You can hear his radio program over the internet via Real Audio. Kosovo and an American contradiction What is the connection between the NATO action and the ambitions of some to establish a world government? One of the questions that I have been asking myself about the NATO action is why the whole idea of it seems wrong to me, and makes me so uncomfortable. I believe it is because, at bottom, the understanding throughout my entire life that has been the foundation of my thinking about international relations was precisely that -- international. The subject was "international relations." Implied is that we have a world composed of sovereign nations, and that we are dealing with the relations among these sovereign nations and with the strategic and political environment that results from these relationships. Insofar as there is an international community, it is a community composed of these nations working out, in mutually agreeable ways, the terms on which they will conduct business with one another. The basic assumption of this whole way of thinking is that those nations are defined, they have boundaries and jurisdictions, and that by and large they have within those jurisdictions the ability to order their affairs according to their institutions, laws and practices -- up to and including some institutions, laws and practices that we would consider oppressive, even evil. It has been an important principle of international relations that such matters are concerns of the particular country, and while another state might do its best, if help was asked for, to help develop better institutions, there was one thing it would not do -- go into another country and force change. This was not acceptable, because it was aggression -- the use by one country of force, without prior provocation of attack or threat, to impose that country's will on another country. However valid and wonderful the intended change might be thought to be, such forcible imposition of it on another country has been universally deemed wrong by the international community. There are those who don't believe this, and who believe that we are moving toward a fundamentally new kind of global unity. They say that our increasing interdependence, particularly in finance, trade, technology and communication, make the nation state obsolete. This view has had its implications in economic and civic life already. Now, with the NATO intervention in Kosovo, I think we are seeing for the first time a use of force that is based upon the presumption that it is legitimate for a state or group of states to intervene in the internal affairs of another state without any real threat, military or otherwise, but simply on the grounds that the state is not accepting an authority represented by the intervening states. In this case, NATO is intervening to enforce Yugoslavia's acceptance of NATO's authority and the terms of the Rambouillet Agreement, and to enforce that acceptance with bombing and whatever else is necessary until the government of Yugoslavia submits. NATO is no longer acting as a cooperative defense force, which has been its defining character since its inception. Its role is being redefined so that it is now acting as the executive agent of a presumed authority to impose upon a nation state a certain form for arranging its internal institutions - otherwise known as a form of government. NATO is acting as the executive agent for a presumed authority to impose in Yugoslavia a certain form of government. President Clinton has invoked humanitarian concerns in order to justify NATO's use of force in the name of this presumed authority. But when you examine these arguments on humanitarian grounds, they don't hold water. This leads me to ask what else is going on here. The argument we are being given seems to be a pretext, rather than a real motivation, cause or explanation. So what is the real rubric under which NATO is acting? The real rubric seems to be a putative authority to require that in Yugoslavia a certain internal arrangement be accepted. NATO is insisting on the ability to dispose of the governmental structures within Yugoslavia in a way that seems right to the alliance. NATO is thus unwilling to continue leaving such questions to be settled by peaceful, and sometimes other than peaceful, means by people within the boundaries of the nation itself. The dangers implied by this way of thinking are clear. The pretext of human rights and abuse of ethnic minorities has been used by bad folks as well as by good. Contrary to what Bill Clinton said, the Second World War wasn't caused by ethnic strife in the Balkans. However, ethnic claims were involved in its origin. We forget this, because our memory of Hitler is predo
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- "the most basic retard in the military" are these the retards who die for u and me andrew? u mean those retards? liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Fw: End Arbitrary Access to the Voting Booth!]
-Caveat Lector- Bob Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/15/99 9:24:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << YIKES!!! > > Don't these laws apply to all the races? > > Instead of changing the laws, Blacks can avoid becoming criminal > felons. > > Now there's a radical concept. > > Joshua2 >> > > I agree. Maybe here is something that will open a few eyes to the "justice" > system. > In 1986-87 I was called to jury duty. I was called to a case and the > lawyers began to question us about the case, our opinions etc. The DA said > he wanted me dismissed from the case because I was active duty military and > not a permanent resident of Colorado Springs. This gave me a case of the ass > because the guy sitting next to me was acceptable even though he was a > convicted felon. Just another way that a military person is discriminated > against while a criminal is given privileges. The ACLU is a shitty > organization with a sinister agenda ... giving criminals the right to vote > ... don't we have enough criminals in the State legislatures and Washington > DC? When I went to the ACLU about discriminatory hiring practices at DIGITAL > (now out of business) they were very rude ... they more or less said that a > white male couldn't be a victim of discrimination, but then again they don't > consider affirmative action as discriminatory. > > Regards, > Bob Stokes Your logic is faulty, both of you. The reason there are disproportionate numbers of non-white people in jails and in prisons is because they are targeted, and in a large number of cases they are innocent. This argument that criminals do not deserve the basic rights as everyone else is disgusting. First many that are convicted are innocent just as many who are executed are in fact innocent. Secondly there is a thing called rehabilitation, and even though the system itself does nothing to rehabilitate people, many reform in spite of the mechanisms that attempt to prevent that. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] 50 Years of Research Results in AIDS??]
-Caveat Lector- 1lls0081 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > So AIDS and some other things have a underling cause. What triggers > the underling cause? Pesticides and herbicides have been > known to show genetic damage that can go to the 2nd and 3rd > generation. They take down the immune system and leave us > open to other things. > Laura The point of the article is not that AIDS has underlying causes. The point is that the evidence is that AIDS was manufactured from existing viruses/diseases. And despite the opposition to the truth, the truth will come out that AIDS was in fact CREATED by slicing VISNA (sleeping virus) with BOVINE LEUKEMIA, along with some designer tweaking as the article also documents--designer tweaking that causes AIDS to attack specific ethnic or racial groups more prevalently. > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- The Onion is a humorous newspaper that spoofs and lampoons. I used to pick up the hardcopy in Madison, Wisconsin during my frequent visits. It also has adverts for beer joints and pizza delivery. It's target audience is the Cheesehead college crowd. Y'all need to relax and laugh. There's enough shit in the world. -- Mark McHugh There is no logical answer to a guffaw. -Arnold Bennett DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 2:18:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that. > He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment' > that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that > Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally' > Where the Colonel demonstrates Sociopathic traits is his assumption that > Mankind should 'naturally inherit' the TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION. eg. guns > 12 millenia of such Neanderthal thought must surely have taught even the > most basic retard in the Military that the only reason to bear arms > is the unnatural defence of the TOOLS OF CREATION and their society. > There is nothing 'Natural' about Slaughter to a reasoning, creating and > nurturing Society. > The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners > or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. > > > Andrew Hennessey > Transformation Studies Group > EdinburghScotland > > > My goodness, Andrew! I'm certainly glad that attitude didn't flow all the way to me in my Scottish blood. Here in the US if someone implies lethal violence our inferrence is lethal violence and we're likely to imply a bullet. Jim DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Prisoners of War
-Caveat Lector- April 17, 1999 S/Sgt. Andrew Ramirez, S/Sgt. Christopher Stone, and Spec. Steven Gonzalez Prisoners of War --- Day 18 # We were told by a source close to the family of one of the Yugoslav POW's that they have been advised to "cool it," "keep a low profile," and "don't make waves." Needless to say this brought back frightening memories to our Vietnam POW/MIA family members. In the early days of the Vietnam War, POW/MIA families were told "keep quiet."In some cases wives were told not to tell their children or the missing serviceman's families. "Low profile" was the recommended course of action and in the early days, the families listened. It was not until the early 1970's that the families, tired of "keeping quiet," started "making waves." Returned POWs have long stated that their treatment and living conditions improved, once the families went public and began making waves. Last evening we discussed the "low profile" advise given to at least one of our Yugoslav POWs families with a Vietnam POW/MIA wife. Her reaction -- "Oh my God, does that sound familiar." Her advise and ours to the Ramirez, Gonzalez and Stone families. MAKE WAVES. # During the past week, we've listened very closely to statements of President Clinton and Secretary of State Albright regarding conditions that must be met by the Serbs to end this conflict. In none of those statements were our POWs mentioned. It was not until Thursday that President Clinton mentioned our POWs. Speaking before the Americans Society of Newspaper Editors in San Fracisco, on Kosovo "Conflict," President Clinton stated: "Mr. Milosevic also continues to hold on to the three American servicemen his forces seized in Macedonia. He continues to flout his obligation to allow the Red Cross to visit them. I want to say again as clearly as I can, the United States will hold him personally responsible for their welfare." In a speech containing 3848 words on the Kosovo Crisis, Mr. Clinton devoted 52 words to the subject of our POWs. In those 52 words you will notice he never used the phrase "Prisoner of War." Our question, if the POWs are not part of the conditions for peace, how does this administration expect to get them back. In our opinion, the administration may be calling them POWs but they are acting like they are hostages, who will not be part of the negotiation process. MAKE WAVES!! ## Disturbing Report -- The current edition of "Insight" Magazine, in their "news alert!" Column contains disturbing information of U.S. soldiers seized by Serb forces, along the Macedonian border prior to the capture of S/Sgt. Ramirez, S/Sgt. Stone, and Spec. Gonzalez. According to the article "...News Alert! has learned that the current abduction is not the first time that Serb troops have taken U.S. soldiers prisoner in skirmishes along the Macedonian border. In fact, it happened so frequently that U.S. troops destined for service in Macedonia with the U.N. peackeeping forces routinely received special training in Germany on how to react to such abductions, according to newspapers published in Germany for the troops." "Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Steve Campbell tells new alert! he's "just not aware" of any earlier abductions. But a journalist who was working for American Forces Network or AFN unexpectedly ran into an incident involving the abduction by Serbs of two Americans and two Norwegians when he was sent to Macedonia in Janaury 1994 to cover routine troop rotations, and he was confronted by U.S. Army Efforts to suppress news of the event." "Although the earlier abductions usually lasted only a few hours, the fact that U.S. military planners knew about this particular danger in a territory where there are not defined borders has raised questions on Capitol Hill. Lawmakers wonder why the 350 U.S. troops, who had been part of UNPREDEP (U.N. Preventive Deployment Force) were left in Macedonia once Clinton unleashed the air war in Yugoslavia. They are appalled that the troops were given no special backup and ask why the three man patrol was allowed to make sorties along in a disputed region without protective firepower" According to the article, American Journalist Richard W. Haverinen "... while traveling with his escorts he noticed an unusual amount of traffic on the radios and near panic among the command. Since Haverinen is of Finnish descent, he was invited by the Finns in the Scandinavian battalion for a social evening and was told frankly about the abductions . The soldiers had been held for 11 hours by the Serbs and returned "Why did the Americans make such a big deal about it?" the Finns asked. " "The next morning, Haverinen says, "I ran into a policy of secrecy about the threat against our people -- in fact, a policy of secrecy that was alarming when all I did was ask a softball question about the border incident. I wound up being arrested, taken
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 5:11:10 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As far as satires go..it didn't seem to me to be that far off the mark. As a nation, we're far more concerned as to what the sports scores are, than finding out what's going on in our own government. >> Amen Don DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- >> > >> Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that. >> He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment' >> that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that >> Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally' >*** >He did? I don't remember him saying that either was natural or unnatural. The Colonel made a direct appeal to a sexual analogy - perhaps he was unable to think it all through though ? >Where is this reasoning, creating and nurturing society? I want to move there. It has to have been blown away by murdering people hiding behind the excuse that it wasn't their fault the holocaust took place because it was all the fault of INSTINCT - >> The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners >> or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. >> >*** >Defend? With what? Not a gun by any chance? > >Howard Davis > I'm all for shooting, killing and executing Bad guys by bullets and any means - I WILL NOT condone those who choose to hide behind a 'biological/ instinctive' defence of their actions. The Colonels sexual/biological analogy/ideology depending on how far you want to take it - could go to the lofty Cabals of the Illuminati where it is completely at home with the Necessary Death and Rebirth of Society and the Darwinistic slughter of the weak by the strong. If you've got a gun, you've got a gun, but spare us the 'biology is pulling the trigger arguments' please Colonel. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NSA Charter from Wiretap
-Caveat Lector-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TELECOM Moderator)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: FOIA Jewel: Original Charter of the National Security Agency
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X-Telecom-Digest: Special Edition: Birth of NSA
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TELECOM Digest Sun, 11 Feb 90 11:35:18 CSTSpecial: Birth of NSA
Today's Topics: Moderator: Patrick Townson
FOIA Jewel: Original Charter of the National Security Agency
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 90 00:03 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FOIA Jewel: Original Charter of the National Security Agency
At 12:01 ON the morning of November 4, 1952, a new federal
agency was born. Unlike other such bureaucratic births, however,
this one arrived in silence. No news coverage, no congressional
debate, no press announcement, not even the whisper of a rumor.
Nor could any mention of the new organization be found in the
Government Organization Manual of the Federal Register or the
Congressional Record. Equally invisible were the new agency's
director, its numerous buildings, and its ten thousand employees.
Eleven days earlier, on October 24, President Harry S Truman
scratched his signature on the bottom of a seven-page
presidential memorandum addressed to secretary of State Dean G.
Acheson and Secretary of Defense Robert A. Lovett. Classified
top secret and stamped with a code word that was itself
classified, the order directed the establishment of an agency to
be known as the National Security Agency.It was the birth
certificate for America's newest and most secret agency, so
secret in fact that only a handful in the government would be
permitted to know of its existence.
-James Bamford, The Puzzle Palace (1982) at 15.
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A 20707 5/4/54/OSO
NSA TS CONTL. NO 73-00405
COPY: D321
Oct 24 1952
MEMORANDUM FOR: The Secretary of State
The Secretary of Defense
SUBJECT: Communications Intelligence Activities
The communications intelligence (COMINT) activities of the
United States are a national responsibility. They must be so
organized and managed as to exploit to the maximum the available
resources in all participating departments and agencies and to
satisfy the legitimate intelligence requirements of all such
departments and agencies.
I therefore designate the Secretaries of State and Defense
as a Special Committee of the National Security Council for
COMINT, which Committee shall, with the assistance of the
Director of Central Intelligence, establish policies governing
COMINT activities. and keep me advised of such policies through
the Executive Secretary of the National Security Council.
I further designate the Department of Defense as executive
agent of the Government, for the production of COMINT
information.
I direct this Special Committee to prepare and issue
directives which shall include the provisions set forth below and
such other provisions as the Special Committee may determine to
be necessary.
1.A directive to the United States Communication
Intelligence Board (USCIB). This directive will replace the
National Security Council Intelligence Directive No. 9, and shall
prescribe USCIB's new composition, responsibilities and
procedures in the COMINT fields. This directive shall include
the following provisions.
a. USCIB shall be reconstituted as a body acting for
and under the Special Committee, and shall operate in
accordance with the provisions of the new directive. Only
those departments or agencies represented in USCIB are
authorized to engage in COMINT activities.
b. The Board shall be composed of the following
members:
(1) The Director of Central Intelligence, who shall be
the Chairman of the Board.
(2) A representative of the Secretary of State.
(3) A representative of the Secretary of Defense
(4) A representative of the Director of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation.
(5) The Director of the National Security Agency.
(6) A representative of the Department of the Army.
(7) A representative of the Department of the Navy.
(8) A representative of the Department of the Air Force.
(9) A representative of the Central Intelligen
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- A joke that is severely misguided. Let's say they had the hearings. They put one notice out and no other coverage until the decision came out. Surprise. It's all over. I hear people who go into voting booths and pick out the best looking name. They had a referendum last year that on the surface looked like an anti-thong law. Looking closer, it must cover two-thirds the butt. Are they going to start measuring? State approved swimwear? Kevin Joe New wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > - Original Message - > From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern > > > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html > > > HREF="http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American > > > People Ruled Unfit To Govern > > > > This is probably the most damaging event that could happen to the American > > People!!! Why isn't this blasted on all the air waves? This effectively > > AND legally turns us into a bunch of cows. Moo Damn it to Hell!!! > > What the F@$%$ is going on with this country??? > > > > Hilary > > Hey, it's just a joke. Geez... > > Joe > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- At 05:04 PM 4/18/99 -0400, Bill Richer wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Joe: > Some jokes are too serious. After a president doing what he did with >Monica in the White House and giving secrets to China and probably Russia >this article was believable! Yet as I said before it is said that Onion does >satires! It was a good satire..at least it got some of you going, and it definately got your attention. As far as satires go..it didn't seem to me to be that far off the mark. As a nation, we're far more concerned as to what the sports scores are, than finding out what's going on in our own government. --- "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- Joe: Some jokes are too serious. After a president doing what he did with Monica in the White House and giving secrets to China and probably Russia this article was believable! Yet as I said before it is said that Onion does satires! Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton Laying Groundwork for Bush II
-Caveat Lector- Poll: Clinton Scandals Hurt Gore By WILL LESTER .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Public weariness with the Clinton administration's ethical problems may be hampering Vice President Al Gore's efforts to build support for his presidential campaign, a poll released Saturday suggested. A Gore campaign adviser said it was too early to gauge the impact of the vice president's close ties to Clinton. For the first time since September 1997, when Gore was at the center of a controversy about campaign fund raising, his favorable ratings slipped below 50 percent in the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. The new poll indicated 47 percent of the public has a favorable view of Gore, while 43 percent say their view of the Democratic front-runner for 2000 is unfavorable. The poll also indicated Gore needs to gain strength among women and independents, two important groups in his bid for the presidency. Three-fourths of all respondents questioned said they were tired of problems associated with the Clinton administration. Of the independents who said they were tired of the administration's problems, almost two-thirds, 63 percent, favored Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the Republican front-runner, over Gore. Campaigning in New Hampshire, Gore told reporters: ``The country wants to move on to a discussion of the future and not dwell on the past. I have condemned the president's personal mistakes. He is my friend, but what he did was wrong. I think they understand that I am a different person who has been part of a team that produced an economic recovery and the economic progress that we have had in America.'' ``Of course people are tired of scandals,'' said Mark Penn, a pollster who advises Gore. ``They didn't ask, 'Are you tired of the Republican right wing?''' he said. ``Our analysis is that the vice president is starting out where all vice presidents start out, where (Richard) Nixon started out, where (George) Bush started out.'' Penn said it is too early to analyze the effects of the Clinton presidency on Gore's candidacy. ``At the end of the day, the Clinton factor will be positive,'' said Penn, who also conducts polls for the president. He said the Clinton-Gore administration will get credit for producing a prosperous economy and making many other changes beneficial to the nation. In the Pew poll, women preferred Bush over Gore by a margin of 52 percent to 42 percent. In January of 1996, Clinton led Republican nominee Bob Dole by almost 20 percentage points among women. Independents, a key swing group in the 2000 election, favored Bush over Gore by almost a 2-1 margin, according to the poll. When people were asked to give a one-word description of the vice president, the top response was ``boring.'' In a Pew poll in September 1996, the word mentioned most often was ``intelligent.'' ``At this point, it's very, very early,'' said Pew survey director Greg Flemming. ``But Gore's got a lot of work to do.'' Bush was supported by 54 percent, and Gore had 41 percent. Former Red Cross President Elizabeth Dole, another Republican in the race, led Gore 52 percent to 42 percent. But polls taken this early before an election often don't forecast the eventual winner. The poll of 1,786 adults was taken March 24-30 and has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Resurrecting the Reichstag
-Caveat Lector- Rebuilt German Reichstag Is To Open By ANNE THOMPSON .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) -- What hasn't happened to the Reichstag? It was burned during the Nazi era, bombed by the Allies, and stormed by Red Army soldiers who scrawled obscenities on the walls and planted the red Soviet flag on the roof, marking the defeat of Hitler. East Germany built the Berlin Wall just a few steps from its back door. And after the Wall came down, the artist Christo wrapped the Reichstag in a million square feet of silvery fabric, a celebration of the end of communism. Now the old parliament has undergone yet another transformation. After a $330 million renovation, the Reichstag debuts Monday as the reclaimed seat of German lawmakers, a defining episode in the government's return this year to the prewar capital of Berlin. More than any other building in the city, the Reichstag (pronounced RIKES-tahg) has symbolized every phase of Germany's turbulent, terrible history over the past 80 years. So it only seems fitting that in his restoration, celebrated British architect Sir Norman Foster has made the Reichstag into a new symbol for the new capital, one of a Germany mindful of the past but moving confidently into the future. Foster preserved the Reichstag's original 19th-century facade, with its Italian Renaissance-style columns and carvings, and the inscription over the main entrance: ``To the German People.'' But he also gave the parliament a new glass dome that bursts from the top of the old, ravaged building and sparkles like a beacon on the city horizon. Inside, almost everything is new: the central parliament chamber, the offices and meeting rooms, the five new restaurants, the sleek furniture, the gray decor accented with primary colors and pastels. All the modernness only emphasizes the wartime scars the architect left behind. Take the east wing, where Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has an office. Doors along the hallway are bright blue, with shiny steel handles and hinges, but sections of the white, stone walls are still gouged and jagged from bombings and covered with Russian graffiti -- names and rude slogans dated ``1945.'' ``A lot of events have passed over that building and left their imprint on the fabric,'' says Foster, who took journalists on a preview tour last week. ``I think it has more integrity to reveal and accept the history, making it tangibly visible for present and future generations.'' The architectural mix of old and new in large part embodies the professed spirit of Schroeder's center-left government. His so-called Berlin Republic stresses that enough time has passed for Germany to be powerful without being threatening, that it can remember its crimes without being defined by guilt. It's an attitude that comes partly from Schroeder himself. The chancellor, 55, is the first from a generation untroubled by memories of Hitler. But it also comes from the government's return to Berlin, scene of Prussian imperialism and Third Reich horrors. In the planning since 1991, one year after Germany's reunification, the move this year sets a major milestone in the success and confidence of German democracy. Monday's ceremony opening the Reichstag is the first key event in the move from Bonn, the provincial southwestern city where the capital was relegated after World War II. Next comes the election of a new German president in May and the new parliamentary session in September -- the first to start in the restored building. ``I remember how from East Berlin, you could see the Reichstag so near and yet so far,'' parliamentary President Wolfgang Thierse, an east German, told German radio. ``Even then it represented a longing for unity, freedom and democracy.'' German democracy actually comes full circle with the reopening of the Reichstag, which was built in 1894 to house the first German parliament, an attempt to install elements of democracy under Kaiser Wilhelm. Real democracy took hold -- however briefly -- after World War I, when the empire was abolished. ``This is a return to the building's original purpose,'' says historian Brian Ladd, author of a book about Berlin architecture. ``Some may see this as an attempt to pretend the intervening years never happened. But I think it shows that German democracy has earned the right to confront its past and live with it. And that includes the Third Reich.'' Hitler never governed -- never even spoke -- in the Reichstag, but the building nonetheless represents the Nazis by association. All the grim history raised concerns about whether Germany should return to Berlin, the seat of power at its most terrifying. But the transformed Reichstag is as light as its legacy is dark. Glass walls around the central parliament and a viewing platform on the second floor mean visitors can see and hear what's going on inside. The feel is one of openness, of a transparent and accessible government. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a dis
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American > > People Ruled Unfit To Govern > > This is probably the most damaging event that could happen to the American > People!!! Why isn't this blasted on all the air waves? This effectively > AND legally turns us into a bunch of cows. Moo Damn it to Hell!!! > What the F@$%$ is going on with this country??? > > Hilary Hey, it's just a joke. Geez... Joe DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > on of violent crimes than in the commission of them. > > > > probably because he is a mentally ill sociopath. > > > > Andrew Hennessey > > > >> > >The Colonel was just putting a liberal lady who was pushing her agenda in her > >place! I think he did it brilliantly! > > > >Bill > > > Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that. > He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment' > that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that > Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally' *** He did? I don't remember him saying that either was natural or unnatural. > Where the Colonel demonstrates Sociopathic traits is his assumption that > Mankind should 'naturally inherit' the TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION. eg. guns > 12 millenia of such Neanderthal thought must surely have taught even the > most basic retard in the Military that the only reason to bear arms > is the unnatural defence of the TOOLS OF CREATION and their society. > There is nothing 'Natural' about Slaughter to a reasoning, creating and > nurturing Society. Where is this reasoning, creating and nurturing society? I want to move there. > The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners > or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. > *** Defend? With what? Not a gun by any chance? Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Apr 15 Protest Against NATO in SF
-Caveat Lector- The national mass-media seem to have a deliberate policy of giving ZERO airtime to instances of protest against Clinton/NATO/Kosovo by Americans at home. But-- "At the end of the 20th century, we face a great battle between the forces of globalism and tribalism," Clinton said. "On Nob Hill, about 500 demonstrators clogged the sidewalk across from the Fairmont's main entrance while Clinton spoke. "The crowd was a bizarre mix of left- and right-wingers -- who normally would be shouting at each other but united on this day to denounce Clinton -- and about 80 pro-NATO Albanian and Kosovar Americans. "'Normally we don't agree,' a conservative radio talk show host said, jerking a thumb toward a Communist group handing out "Stop the Bombing" flyers, 'but today we are trying to speak with one voice on the war.'" President Defends Balkan War/ NATO must not waver, he tells editors in S.F. by Marc Sandalow and Carla Marinucci San Francisco Chronicle, April 16, 1999 President Clinton came to San Francisco yesterday to defend America's commitment to the military offensive in Yugoslavia, calling civilian deaths a ``regrettable'' but ``inevitable'' consequence of NATO's campaign to prevent centuries of ethnic violence from threatening world peace. Speaking to newspaper editors at the Fairmont Hotel, Clinton insisted that NATO will not back down in Yugoslavia, even as the human toll mounts, because ``we don't want the 21st century to be dominated by the dark marriage of modern weapons and ancient ethnic, racial and religious hatred.'' In remarks to about 300 members of the American Society of Newspaper Editors that lasted about an hour, Clinton presented a philosophical argument for U.S. involvement in the Balkan conflict, drawing on history and his own vision of ethnic harmony. "At the end of the 20th century, we face a great battle between the forces of integration and the forces of disintegration, the forces of globalism versus tribalism,'' he said. The president repeatedly framed the struggle in Yugoslavia as an attempt to move beyond centuries of ethnic hatred and discussed his hopes that southern Europe would one day be as unified as Western Europe. But he warned that the ``grand vision of the 21st century'' as a time of ``prosperity and personal freedom ... is being threatened by the oldest demon of human society: Our vulnerability to hatred of the other; those who are not like us.'' ``We don't want to see Europe refight with tanks and artillery the same battles they fought centuries ago with axes and arrows,'' he said. ``In the face of that, we cannot be indifferent, at home or abroad. That is why we are in Kosovo.'' ``Kosovo is a very small place on a very large fault line,'' the president continued. ``On the border lands of Central and Eastern Europe, at the meeting place of the Islamic world and the Eastern and Orthodox branches of Christianity.'' Although Clinton's comments emphasized the broader purposes of the military campaign, the first question after his address concerned the NATO bombing on Wednesday that accidentally killed more than 70 civilians, by Yugoslav estimates. Asked ``Did we screw up?'' Clinton responded: ``You cannot have this kind of conflict without some errors like this occurring,'' adding that the incident will not diminish NATO's resolve. ``It is also inevitable in a conflict of this kind, with planes traveling at high speeds.'' National security adviser Sandy Berger told reporters that the media's attention on the civilian deaths is understandable but urged them to put the incident in the perspective of a bloody conflict. ``I think we have to have a sober, serious, conscientious -- but not hysterical -- attitude about these things,'' Berger said. Clinton also responded to a complaint from the editors association that the Department of Defense is failing to provide reporters with enough information about the progress of the military operation. The president said he is already working on the problem, explaining that he has spoken to other NATO leaders about finding ways to give the media more timely and detailed reports. He also said that bad weather and the rugged terrain in the Balkans make it difficult to obtain and disseminate reliable information. After his address, Clinton worked the rope line, chatting with editors and other members of the audience. At one point, he was lectured by conservative columnist Arianna Huffington. Clinton's trip to San Francisco -- his 45th visit to California as president -- lasted only hours. He arrived at San Francisco International Airport shortly before 11 a.m. and was greeted by 22 Americorps volunteers from the East Bay. ``I know you have tough decisions to make, but I am always praying for you,'' 19-year-old Lupe Ornelas of Berkeley told Clinton, as they embraced. The greeting was not as warm on Nob Hil
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/17/99 8:09:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << Teo One Thousand wrote: > > > > > > > It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon > the > > people who hear it. This is why it was used, just like all of the occult > > symbology of the Nazi's. Hitler was portrayed by some, and unfortunately > > still is portrayed, as a messiah-like figure which was the only way in > which > > the Fatherland could be reborn and remade into the greatest nation ever. > > Rubbish of course, but it is NOT about whether such things are TRUE but > > whether they are believed, and many did and still do believe. There is > power > > there simply on that basis alone. The homosexual angle is one that has > > occult overtones also, women "steal" your life essence, being with a man > does > > not deplete ones "masculine nature". Again pure rubbish, but believed by > > many. > > Teo1000 > > > > I agree that the power of belief may be the full explanation for the > power derived from these "potions", but I do not discount the > possibility that the power of belief does not in some way link into > other powers we do not understand. > > Howard Davis >> > > A point well said, and one which I would not discount either. Surely > "Occultism" itself, being about "hidden" things would mean necessarily that > much of it would be unknown. There is power in the belief as well as power > to be gained from other means, natural or supernatural. > Teo1000 > PS It has been my contention, regarding the "Occult" that it gains power and > has force due to the fact that it thrives and propagates in secrecy. My > contention is that the secrecy itself is a force of power that can be tapped > into and used. This is why it is always stated in religious mantras that to > bring something "into the light" is to render it harmless. The very fact of > secrecy is the source of power. > Whether true or not, it is certainly an appropriate thought to express on a CTRL! The truth will set you free. Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: (en) Zmagazin articles about Kosovo on http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/kosovo.htm
-Caveat Lector- A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ Some Featured Analyses Kosovo Crisis Q/A - Albert and Shalom The main issues and more in a helpful question and answer format Summarizing the Case Against NATO - Gar Lipow A succinct and elegant presentation of many arguments regarding the current crisis. Radio Audio interview on WBUR -- Noam Chomsky Interview you can listen to with Real Audio, good quality, good content... The Current Bombings: Behind the Rhetoric - Noam Chomsky Essay on the context, rationales, and true motives... Replies re Kosovo - Noam Chomsky Replies to two queries posed in the ZNet forum system Thoughts About Bombings - Michael Albert Why the bombings, why now, what's in the future... Some Complexities of Organizing A letter from England with voices from Kosovo and Yugoslavia... Confession of the Bombs - Eduardo Galeano Arguably the most eloquent voice on the left... A Letter From Yugoslavia "Off with their Heads!" Shouted the Queen or the Turning of Yugoslavia into a Beggar Country Iraq and Kosovo, Two Regional Wars - Phyllis Bennis The Crises, the UN and the future... Atrocities Management - Edward Herman On the nature of demonization and left lack of clarity... U.S./NATO's Hypocritic Oath - Andre Gunder Frank Dissects NATO's activities and role, and the context more broadly... NATO's Humanitarian Trigger - Diana Johnstone Some background regarding the ethnic hostilities and current crisis Protecting The Kosovars -- Edward Said Why the bombings, and what instead. Some In-Depth Articles Notes on the Kosovo Problem - Diana Johnstone A major essay on the entire regional problem...from a highly informed source with an uncommon perspective. Seeing Yugoslavia Darkly An in-depth Johnstone analysis from August, 1998. Dismantling Yugoslavia...- by Michel Chossudovsky An in depth historical and economic overview--with much useful information and elements, however, that strike us as a bit dubious... Additional Excellent Short Essays/Articles, etc. NATO/U.S. out of Yugoslavia! - Mumia Abu-Jamal A voice from prison about the imprisonment of voices... Stop the Bombing - Michael Moore A different way of arguing the case... We Who Are About to Die Mark Steel of the Guardian, who has two pieces below as well, was fired for his anti-war editorial efforts, which attracted our admiration -- and this is a moving final column he has written for the Guardian in England, not specifically about the current bombings, and yet so much about them.. And it might be a good idea, especially for those over in England, to protest the Guardian's horrible action--and everyone can protest it via mail sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Highly Suspect Pretext for War -- Lobel & Ratner A legal perspective from the Center for Constitutional Rights. A Mother Jones initiated set of comments... Ehrenreich, Bennis, Zinn, Johnstone, and Kenney comment on NATO's motives... American Journalists Have No Reason to be Smug Looking at media looking at war A Sensible Op. Ed. from the Washington Post Author: Walter R. Roberts In the Name of the Victims - Reinhart This article appeared in the Hebrew daily "Yediot", April 8, 1999 Bombed Out - Mark Steel An excellent tirade in the Guardian. Uncle Sam's Secret Agenda - John Pilger A large-scale perspective... Village Voice article - Jason Vest Very aggressive anti-war article about effects on democratic movements... FAIR's Researched NY Times Analysis Looking at old Times articles pays off in insight... The Clinton Doctrine - Michael Klare A piece in the Nation about the broader framework of the NATO bombing. War is Peace? - Andre Gunder Frank Contextualizing the history and particularly
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit-->SATIRE!
-Caveat Lector- No way..you have Helen Chenowith looking into this? Onion puts out satire!!! It's great stuff because it is 'close' enough to the truth to show the absurd world we live in, but it's outrageous enough to catch the satire and the joke within the article. You must read the whole article to see that. Sometimes people just 'scan' an article and jump to a conclusion. Re-read that article...slowly...and all the way through again and you will see it. Ms.CountryLady DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Does K = (or approximate) K?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-18 11:30:57 EDT, you write: >What does HYBRIS mean Hybris or hubris (it's an English loan-word transliterated from Greek, where "u" becomes "y" in some cases, as in "hygiene") means "over-confidence" or "vanity exceeding all bounds," ending in disastrous consequences for the person. It's the primary term to describe the "hero" in Greek drama, where an otherwise admirable protagonist comes to a tragic end (sometimes attributed to the "envy" of the gods) because of this "fatal flaw." That isn't far from "bad karma" as understood by the Greeks' ultimate ancestors, the Aryans of India, in Arjuna's case in the Mahabharata, for example. But nowadays we attribute less to the "gods" and more to psychology -- it's "pride cometh before a fall." . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 10:29:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << But about 20 minutes into the film, it was showing one of these static speech scenes, and I stopped reading the subtitles...now, I don't know German, so I couldn't understand what Hitler was saying...but within a few moments, I felt myself 'mesmerized', and caught up in some strange feeling...and suddenly I could understand just WHY the German people followed this guy, without really thinking...it was really quite seductive, and here I was, 35 or more years later, KNOWING what this guy was and WHAT he caused, and I could easily understand why people adored him at the time (and indeed, why there are STILL people who adore him)... And I turned to my mother who was watching it with me, and mentioned how I'd been watching without reading the subtitles, and how I suddenly found myself memsmerized by Hitler, even tho I couldn't understand what he was saying (perhaps BECAUSE I couldn't understand, so that something more than words were at work)...and my mother said that at the time, people she knew wondered at Hitler's "charm", also, most passing it off as saying "well, he's a very neat person, and keeps himself well-kept"...() "Charm" indeed...as in occult charma potion/spell to make the people desire a man as their leader, no matter what WORDS are said... June >> Exactly what I am talking about. A power of some kind is being tapped into. The nature of which is in question, but the "fact" that it is there is not in dispute? Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- >I understand where you are coming from, Andrew, but if/when Y2K hits, and your door is broken down by a street gang who haven't had anything to eat for a week, haven't had a drink of water for two days and haven't had a cigarette for four days, I wonder where your altruistic sentiments will go in a hurry? Like out the window? And will you then understand that the most basic right we have is the right to defend ourselves? Wait a minute. Surely you are not suggesting that in the event of a natural disaster most people will refuse to share resources or to render each other mutual aid, are you? This is not what happens in a natural disaster. In a natural disaster virtually all people share, virtually all people help each other out. This is a universal phenomenon. This happens among all Peoples, of every race, every religion, every language group, every trade, all ages, both genders all hair styles, and every persuasion. This happens in every kind of natural disaster known to humanity, including earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, wild fires, avalanches, mud slides, floods, and epidemics. It even happens under conditions of man-made disasters like famine, war and ecocide. This I have seen with my own eyes, as has anyone who has lived through a disaster. Hell, I've even participated. I couldn't help it; I'm human. That's how we humans are. There is a minuscule minority who prey on others. There is an even more minuscule number who will do so while looking down the barrel of a gun. Better safe than sorry. But better still, plan ahead as communities. Working together we can stop the technical problems of Y2K from becoming social problems. Working alone we compound the problem. There are NO individual solutions to collective problems. Get off your butts and organize now. Start with your family, then your friends and neighbors. Do NOT sit around waiting for business and government to save you. They're the ones who got you into this mess in the first place. A solid case could be made that Y2K is no natural disaster at all, not the mother of screw ups, but part of a sinister and malicious plan. Either mistakes were made or "Mistakes were made." The ruling class has had forty years to fix this. They haven't done so. Even now they are only going through just enough of the motions to insure that they themselves are not blamed. What have they done instead of fixing the problem? They have built huge underground fortresses, some the size of small cities, and stockpiled them for a lengthy siege. Coincidence? Perhaps. Personally, I've stopped stressing about Y2K. I haven't stopped preparing and organizing, but we all have something FAR more pressing to stress about now, WAR. This war is SCARY. I haven't been this scared since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Never since have we been this close to being bombed ourselves. NATO is playing with fire here and we, my friends, are right smack dab in the middle of the frying pan. Get off your butts and into the streets. It took YEARS to stop the Viet Nam war. We don't HAVE years to stop this war in the Balkans. If this thing keeps headed in the direction it's headed now we'll be very lucky just to LIVE till Y2K. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: TFF PRESSINFO
http://www.transnational.org/pressinf/pf62.html Title: TFF PRESSINFO The Information War About Kosovo TFF PressInfo 62 April 15, 1999 "Most people around the world probably think that war and media are separate. When there is a war, the media tell us about it as objectively as they can under the often difficult circumstances. But in today's information society, every war is two wars: that on the ground and that in the media. Weapons communicate and communication is a weapon. We must ask what interests determine what we are told and what we are not told? The history of warfare makes one thing abundantly clear," says TFF director Jan Oberg, "namely that we can safely assume that we are not told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. In NATO's war with Yugoslavia, there is reason to paraphrase Hamlet - 'there is something rotten in the state of the media.' This is what you can read about the use by the United States of information in times of war: "Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations planned to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behaviour of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals. PSYOP are a vital part of the broad range of US political, military, economic, and informational activities. When properly employed, PSYOP can lower the morale and reduce the efficiency of enemy forces and could create dissidence and disaffection within their ranks. There are four categories of military PSYOP; strategic, operational, tactical, and consolidation. PSYOP, which are used to establish and reinforce foreign perceptions of US military, political, and economic power and resolve." Other countries work with PSYOP, too. Let's remember that when we watch television. And let's ask some questions when we do: • IS THERE A LARGER STORY BEHIND WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN? Balkan conflicts not only have a Balkan but also a world order dimension. For instance, did you ever hear about the National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 133 entitled "United States Policy towards Yugoslavia" labelled "SECRET SENSITIVE"? A censored version was declassified in 1990 and largely confirmed NSDD 54 from 1982 the objective of which included "expanded efforts to promote 'quiet revolution' to overthrow Communist governments and parties" while integrating the countries of Eastern Europe into a market economy. • WAR REPORTING - BUT NO CONFLICT JOURNALISM Media tend to focus on today's 'story.' But there is a larger frame in which the events take place. To facilitate a broader understanding - in contrast to simply justifying what happens - we need a frame of reference in time and space, analyses of the root causes behind the events. Any conflict holds an incompatibility, some attitudes and some behaviour. What you see on the screen is mainly behaviour. What the conflict in Kosovo is about has been forgotten by the media. • WHO ARE VICTIMS OF WHAT? ARE SOME SUFFERING LEFT UNTOLD? Conspicuously lacking from the media coverage is the suffering of Serbs, Gorans, Turks, Montenegrins, Yugoslavs and gypsies, the roughly 15% of Kosovo's citizens who are not Albanians. Likewise, we are given few opportunities to empathize with the 8-9 million people whose country is being devastated under NATO's 6000 bombing sorties (as of April 14). We hear that the West is not at war with the people of Yugoslavia and if civilian targets are hit, it's a deplorable mistake. It should be journalistically interesting to learn how those at the receiving end see it. • WHAT IS A MILITARY TARGET AND WHAT IS A CIVILIAN TARGET? This distinction is made repeatedly, but it's a myth that the two can be distinguished. Sure, when you bomb oil depots, bridges or telecommunication facilities these are objects that the military needs. But civilians need them too. How far can we go in undermining a military m
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 2:18:53 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that. He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment' that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally' Where the Colonel demonstrates Sociopathic traits is his assumption that Mankind should 'naturally inherit' the TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION. eg. guns 12 millenia of such Neanderthal thought must surely have taught even the most basic retard in the Military that the only reason to bear arms is the unnatural defence of the TOOLS OF CREATION and their society. There is nothing 'Natural' about Slaughter to a reasoning, creating and nurturing Society. The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. >> I think your reading more into it then there is! Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- Hiliary: I;m in the process of checking out this article but from what I found out Onion may just write heavy duty satires! I got Rep Helen Chenowith looking into it! Will let you know what I find out! God Bless Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/17/99 8:09:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Teo One Thousand wrote: > > > It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon the > people who hear it. This is why it was used, just like all of the occult > symbology of the Nazi's. Hitler was portrayed by some, and unfortunately > still is portrayed, as a messiah-like figure which was the only way in which > the Fatherland could be reborn and remade into the greatest nation ever. > Rubbish of course, but it is NOT about whether such things are TRUE but > whether they are believed, and many did and still do believe. There is power > there simply on that basis alone. The homosexual angle is one that has > occult overtones also, women "steal" your life essence, being with a man does > not deplete ones "masculine nature". Again pure rubbish, but believed by > many. > Teo1000 > I agree that the power of belief may be the full explanation for the power derived from these "potions", but I do not discount the possibility that the power of belief does not in some way link into other powers we do not understand. Howard Davis >> A point well said, and one which I would not discount either. Surely "Occultism" itself, being about "hidden" things would mean necessarily that much of it would be unknown. There is power in the belief as well as power to be gained from other means, natural or supernatural. Teo1000 PS It has been my contention, regarding the "Occult" that it gains power and has force due to the fact that it thrives and propagates in secrecy. My contention is that the secrecy itself is a force of power that can be tapped into and used. This is why it is always stated in religious mantras that to bring something "into the light" is to render it harmless. The very fact of secrecy is the source of power. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Poll On Guns The Results
Gun Poll Results Total Votes Cast: 71345 http://cgi.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/time/osform/gdml3 Bard TIME.com Poll On Guns The Results.url
[CTRL] WILL THE TRUE OPPRESSORS PLEASE STAND UP!
-Caveat Lector- A truly significant resource for the global anti-nuclear, peace, environment, and justice movement exists in the website of the White House Peace Park Vigil, which has ongoing continually since 1981 on the Lafayette Park sidewalk across the street from the White House, http://www.prop1.org A recent article distilled from information presented in recent public demonstrations regarding the war in Yugoslavia is copied below. The article on the webpage referenced contains several useful links and graphics not reproduced in the ascii format below and are worth checking out. http://www.prop1.org/protest/serbia/9904.serbialv.htm WILL THE TRUE OPPRESSORS PLEASE STAND UP! PUBLIC EXPRESSIONS ALBANIAN MESSAGE -- SERBIAN MESSAGE [links] PEACE & FREEDOM-LOVING ANTAGONISTS On the First Amendment front lines in Lafayette Park we are privileged to witness a daily stream of supplicants bringing their pleas to the White House, the seat of World Domination. Thus, regarding the present Serbian/Albanian/Kosovar disturbance, in Lafayette Park we've had an opportunity to listen to both sides in the field. THE AGREEMENT TO DISAGREE IN THE BALKANS If there is one thing which President Clinton, Serbian President Milosevic, as well as the head of every NATO member-state agree upon, it is the concept of national sovereignty. Moreover, each of the aforementioned heads of state also pays lip service to "the rule of law." In fact, the UN Charter, an act of "International Law" to which the USA, Serbia, and all NATO members are signatory, provides that "The (UN) is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members." Under these universally-accepted political fictions, a sovereign nation is a free, independent entity entitled to administer the territory within its domestic control. Thus, from the perspective of people who subscribe to the political fiction of the nation state, determining who the real Nazis are must begin from the question: "Who is the actual aggressor upon whose national sovereignty?" On the other hand, "fighting words," in a legal sense, refers to language intended to incite violence. Today US news media reports are using "Hitler," "Nazi," "genocide," "ethnic cleansing," and "free Kosovo" as fighting words. Meanwhile, news media in Serbia and many other countries are likening US President Clinton to "Hitler," referring to NATO as the "Nazi American Terrorist Organization," and claiming that NATO military actions against Serbia have nothing to do with a "free Kosovo," but are actually genocide as a means of ethnic cleansing intended to subjugate Europe to the economic interests of the United States. Two Illustrative Examples of Sovereign States Figure 1 Figure 2 Figure 1 depicts the sovereign state known as USA, the black lines represent domestic political fictions known as the "various separate states." Together, these various domestic states form the the greater national sovereign state. The lines separating the USA from the sovereign states of Mexico and Canada represent the demarcation points between "the rule of law" of each sovereign state. In the case of the USA there is (1) Federal Law [operating under authority of the U.S. Constitution], which regulates the entire sovereign state, and (2) State Law, which is subservient to Federal Law, but which regulates the territory within each of the separate domestic states. Similarly, in Figure 2 the red line depicts the territorial area which is internationally recognized as the sovereign state of Serbia. As with the USA, Serbia is composed of various separate states, highlighted in yellow and orange. As in the USA, while maintaining a certain degree of autonomy, the various separate Serbian states are ultimately ruled by provisions of the Serbian Constitution. For a thousand years Serbians have considered the territory of Kosovo to be the cradle of Serbian culture, oriented toward the Greek Orthodox Church. In the late 14th century armies of the Ottoman Turk empire, oriented toward Islam, defeated Serbian forces at the Battle of Pristina. Nontheless, Serbs continued to comprise the majority of the Kosovar population ... until after World War II, when Albanians seeking a better life began streaming northward into Kosovo. Since the breakup of Yugoslavia into the separate sovereign states of Croatia, Bosnia, and Montenegro, age-old Albanian/Serbian ethnic unrest has resurfaced in Kosovo. Albanians, with an average of seven children per marriage, versus two per Serbian marriage, have become a majority of the population. Because they were the minority, Serbian Kosovars suffered the brunt of Albanian Kosovar persecution, with instances of deadly violence and forced removal from their homes. Anti-Serb persecution was mainly carried out by a loose confederation of armed Albanian groups calling itself the "Kosovan Liberation Army" (KLA). After Serbian Kosovars
[CTRL] Poll On Guns
Poll About Guns: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/polls/gunpoll.html == "In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." --attr. George Orwell = For the Lord is Our Judge, the Lord is Our Lawgiver, the Lord is Our King; He will save us. -Isaiah 33:22 == There is not much innocence to be found anywhere. Everybody is peddling flesh. LIBERTIES / By MAUREEN DOWD = "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered." --- Thomas Paine = Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! TIME.com Poll On Guns.url
Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"
-Caveat Lector- "Dennis, Andrew" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > >The first World War was the first time there was > >highly organized state propaganda. > > Inaccurate. Kitchener organised the first serious news control in the > Sudan and the Boer Wars, and there had been news management as far back > as the Crimea. > > >The British had > >a Ministry of Information, and they really needed > >it because they had to get the U.S. into the war > >or else they were in bad trouble. > > In the second world war, certainly. In the first lot, by the time the > US came in, we'd confined the German fleet to its home ports (battle of > Jutland), held the germans to their lines for the best part of three > years, and had them on the cusp of the three months of continuous German > retreat that brought about the 1918 armistice. Total US involvement in > World War I was somewhere less than 100,000 (ie., about a week's > casualties for the British and French during an offensive). All the US > forces in WWI did was balance up the Russian capitulation. > Measuring the effectiveness of an army by how many casualties it had is not very accurate. More importantly is the strength of that army, its potential, how many casualties it inflicts, and how much territory it takes. Before the US came into the war there was a basic stalemate. With the surrender of the Russians the balance would have shifted towards the Germans. The Eastern front was large and took a considerable number of German combatants out of the western front. Even with the addition of the US fighting forces, Germany had not been invaded when it surrendered. However, it had become obvious to the German leadership that with the men and supplies now coming (and soon to come) from the US, there was no way the war could have been won. Previous to the US entry, it was still possible for the German leadership to believe that a favorable negotiated settlement was still possible with an exhausted enemy. Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- on of violent crimes than in the commission of them. > > probably because he is a mentally ill sociopath. > > Andrew Hennessey > > >> >The Colonel was just putting a liberal lady who was pushing her agenda in her >place! I think he did it brilliantly! > >Bill > Excuse me Bill, but the Colonel was doing more than that. He inferred in his dialogue that the lady had 'natural sexual equipment' that could be used 'un-naturally' and by inference further suggested that Mans 'natural equipment' was a gun - which could also be used 'un-naturally' Where the Colonel demonstrates Sociopathic traits is his assumption that Mankind should 'naturally inherit' the TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION. eg. guns 12 millenia of such Neanderthal thought must surely have taught even the most basic retard in the Military that the only reason to bear arms is the unnatural defence of the TOOLS OF CREATION and their society. There is nothing 'Natural' about Slaughter to a reasoning, creating and nurturing Society. The colonels point of view is not social or civilised, nor ar his manners or attitude towards someone he is sworn to defend. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Mind of Adolph Hitler
-Caveat Lector- this is as good book I read in 1972, by the man who profiled Hitler for the OSS; it tells of his need for power, his relationship to the ideals of the Wagnerian Dreamof his quest of the King of the Grail (which was dismissed from one picture, as the secret would out).it tells how he outlawed horoscopes, astrologers, etc., because he knew they would prophecy only evil to him, if they were against him. Jeane Dixon was an evil astrologer permitted to mark the Kennedy family over, and over, and over again for murder; even Hitler knew better than to permit such a think, and so did our great Columbus Ohio Newspaper, the Columbus Dispatch, who in July of 1968 called this woman in a headline, lead headline story, a "divine prophetess" who then went on to mark Teddy Kennedy for murder, and we had just buried Bobby. Dixon by the way, claimed direct noble descent from the Kaiser Wilhelmhowever, from her physical attributes, I doubt this very much. Hitler was guest often at the Wagner home in Bayreuth and after he took power built house on the Wagner estate...after Siegfried Wagner died, it was thought that Winifred Wagner and Hitler, would marrybut Hitler declared he was married to Germany. One item of interest; Wild Bill Donovan of the OSS.had his researchers looking for Hitler's jewish bloodline at the same time Hitler was looking for it. Now, this I find interesting because of Madam Albright's jewish ancestry which she obviously was trying to cover.why. Should she not be proud of her jewish heritagenow, she is professed to be a Catholic, as Hitler once professed to be. I keep thinking of the Mormon Church with all those records, who know the pedigree of every person in this country by their DNA, ancestors, etc..and believe me, someday I am going to sue them myself.how strange, a mentally deranged Serb, decided to go to the libary where people were looking up family trees, and make it a shooting gallary. Well, this is a good book written by an expert, and the documention presumably excellent. Hitler played many roles.King Henry II, by the way, would take turns playing roles out of the biblewhen he played King Herod, he had 7 of my ancestors - all Fitzgeralds hanged, drawn, quartered all from the Earls of Kildare and Desmond line. One got away to Francebut the English Blotted the Fitzgerald Name out of the books (see 109th Psalm for a good clue here)they had been called the good FitzgeraldsLord Thomas fought for the Americans, and died int he tower during the Revolutionary War.this Fitzgerald was remembered by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle;s father, in a mental institution in England (where they say according to some, the Ripper ended up).but the father drew these big birds, and a picture of Lord Thomas's tomb, under which he enscribed MURDEREDso tht is probably why they put him in the funny farm. No matter what the English did to the Fitzgeralds, the Irish still make the sign of the cross, when they hear the name John Fitzgerald Kennedy Reading about Hitler and his tacts, is like reading about Albright and Clinton tacticsis Albrigh out to bury somehing alive or destroy a part of her past - and is Clinton just the smiling sweet little boy who is paying for the humanitarian needs of the warburning the bodies, of his victims as Hitler so did to the jews. colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- -- > From: Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:15 AM > > -Caveat Lector- > > from: > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American > People Ruled Unfit To Govern This is probably the most damaging event that could happen to the American People!!! Why isn't this blasted on all the air waves? This effectively AND legally turns us into a bunch of cows. Moo Damn it to Hell!!! What the F@$%$ is going on with this country??? Hilary DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?
-Caveat Lector- Bob, THANK YOU!!! Hilary -- > From: Bob Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this? > Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 3:04 AM > > -Caveat Lector- > > The point here is that there is no Constitutional basis for EOs. What I > have heard (not verifiable in laws) is that an EO takes effect in 30 days if > it is not disputed by Congress, then it becomes law. The Executive branch > has no Constitutional authority to create laws, only the legislative branch. > Clinton's power play (EO 11083) > on federalism is the only one that has been disputed recently. > > The paragraph below explains EO standing: > > "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having > the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and > ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the > time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so > branding it... No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no > courts are bound to enforce it." > -- 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256 > > Regards, > Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fighting for the american way?
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from the net
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U.S. A./NATO (Albright, Berger, Cohen) imposed 'solution' in Kosovo and
Bosnia is globalist, transnational and corporate, rather than a collective
community one.
Here presented as benign by President Clinton:
"Finally, we must remember the principle we and our allies have been
fighting for in the Balkans is the principle of multi-ethnic, tolerant,
inclusive democracy. We have been fighting against the idea that statehood
must be based entirely on ethnicity" (-President Bill Clinton. Reported 15
iv '99 by Associated Press).
Europeans and Americans have gradually been given a substitute America
model-a multiracial multi-ethnic so-called 'pluralistic' one that was
accepted and promoted by Mrs. Thatcher, and is now being generally adopted
in Europe, and is everywhere promoted by Hollywood and Wall Street. This is
the dictated ("accept or we bomb") model to be imposed by 'NATO,' and the
so-called contact group on Bosnia.
Their dictates had been based on these principles, rather than
resettlement, as another option (for example, as accepted in the Treaty of
Lausanne of 24 July 1923; of particular interest today are the articles
relating to the exchange of populations).
President Clinton in his commencement speech to the graduating class of
Portland State University, 13 June 1998. said that some Americans "are
afraid the America they know and love is becoming a foreign land. This
reaction may be understandable. But it is wrong." Clinton said the nation
is in the midst of a new wave of immigration that is the largest in a
century, and more diverse than any in the nation's history."* (*Tibetans
could say the same about Chinese settlement in Tibet.)
"Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii
or Houston or New York City," he said. Within 5 years, he added, there will
be no majority race in California, the nation's most populous state. "And in
a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United
States," Clinton said.
"No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this
magnitude, over so short a time." (Since the 1965 'Act Amendments,'
immigration from Europe was limited to less than 15 per cent of all legal
immigration. Illegal immigration from non-European countries has been in
the tens of millions. This is revolution.)
There is more comfort for children, more stability for a society,
where there is a commonality of ethnicity, culture and interest. "We all
speak from a particular place, out of a particular experience, a particular
culture, without being contained by that position . . . We are all in that
sense, ethnically located and our ethnic identities are crucial to the
subjective sense of who we are" (Hutchinson and Smith, Ethnicity. Oxford
1997, p. 163).
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I went walking in the park...and my child 8yrs old acted with fright. My
wife asked him and he was frightened that we would be attacked she told me
later. She said what promises can we make...and I said it was unlikely to
happen.
But my mind started churning .who have I known who has been assaulted(
by the you know who's).We went to chuch(baptist) and the minister
reminded us that we have no home here by telling the case in zimbabwe where
missionaries were murdered --the men
shot, the women raped to death and the babies kicked around like
footballs...who else
I thoughtthat I knew personnely...well my mother in the laws friend
(Anna) Her family were murderedthe man was necklaced, and the wife and
her children about 8 and 6 were hung up in the garage...slowly strangled to
death.
There was a man I used to go hiking with(Alvin Ridge) his son, with his
wife were emigrating to New Zealand. He went down to durban to say goodbye.
He stop to let his child have a pee.that was enough. they came and
murdered him and his wife the two children they let live . the people who
stopped found the childrn weeping on the dead bodies of the parents
enough I cant promise them safety in any park beautiful though they may
be..
Will you come and rescue us when it is our turn to face the fire I doubt
it...I think you will have your own hands full.
John
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Re: [CTRL] Does K = (or approximate) K?
-Caveat Lector- What does HYBRIS mean. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Berezovsky the Bag Man
-Caveat Lector- How is the world did anyone in Russia get to be a billionaire, when the people were supposed to own everything even though controlled by the government. Berezovsky the Bag Man..he is the Judas, and the victim the Russian people who sat for years during Cold War, sometimes starving.while a fellow communist became a billionairewhat, is this like Andrew Mellon who when he left the U.S. Treasury, had 34 billion dollars? The Russian Mafia - they are with you always, and they are just one, of a group of twelve tribesor is it 19. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crime Gangs Bared By Political Anthropology (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CRIME GANGS BARED BY POLITICAL ANTHROPOLOGY === (CNNS, 04/18/99) -- Noam Chomsky, a professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, compares USA-led NATO actions in Yugoslavia to a Mafia-like protection racket. Are USA's stated "humanitarian concerns" dubious? Chomsky responds: "If a Mafia don who runs the local branch of Murder Inc. shows some kindness to children, the humanitarian concerns don't rise to the level of 'dubious' -- and that's even more so if he shows his humanitarian concerns by kicking the kid in the face." [1] Chomsky says "credibility of NATO" is "Newspeak", comparing it to the "rep" (reputation) of a Mafia "family." "If someone doesn't pay protection money, the don has to establish 'credibility,' to make sure others don't get funny ideas about disobeying orders. So what Clinton, et al., are saying is that it's necessary to ensure that everyone has proper fear of the global enforcer," writes Professor Chomsky. [2] In other words, USA fears to be seen as a "paper tiger." Our other colonies might get funny ideas about paying up their protection money were that to happen. Continuing the Mafia analogy, Don Feder, writing in The Boston Herald, sees U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright as a high-ranking gangster: "Doing a bad imitation of Vito Corleone at Rambouillet, Albright told the Serbs she would have either their signatures or their brains on the peace accord." [3] Albright made the Serbs "an offer they can't refuse." But then the Serbs "dissed" (disrespected) *consigliere* Albright and now the Washington "family" is breaking legs. One of the Washington "button men" (killers) playfully scrawls little messages on his bombs. He writes: "Bad times. Isn't it lovely. See you guys. I'm going home, Eric N., Italy." (The serial number of that particular bomb: 30003 70 4 AS 4829 MFP 96214) "The bomb wounded farmer Slobodan Djordjevic and his sixteen-year-old daughter, who received major skull fractures and is in critical condition at the Neurosurgery Clinic of Nis." [4] The mobsters in Washington have hired extra "muscle" for their vendetta. Mob boss of bosses Bill Clinton has had a "sit down" with rival mobster Osama bin Laden. "Don" bin Laden has agreed to assist "Don" Clinton, in return for a piece of the action. American planes fly new recruits of the Kosovo Liberation Army "into Albania and Macedonia and wherefrom they are being deployed on the territory of Yugoslavia..." [5] CNN, the Criminal News Network, helps spread the word: KLA is hiring. Part of the loot which the two crime families will divvy up between them (unless the Washington crime family double-crosses the bin Laden/KLA crime family) includes the fabulous Stari (Trg) mine (gold, silver, zinc, cadmium, lead). Kosovo also has 17 billion tons of coal reserves. [6] Section 112 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. 112), according to a White House "Executive Order" dated April 13, 1999, supposedly legalizes the Balkan shoot-em-up. [7] But former mob enforcer Michael Milan would be skeptical: "I'll tell you something about law and what it means to be inside of it and outside of it. I was both at the same time and you couldn't tell one from the other. Know why? Because law is made by lawyers for lawyers. It ain't made for people. When you wanna take something that's outside the law and bring it inside the law, you simply change the law." [8] And sneak in the change, hidden deeply within the Internal Revenue Code of 1986. ---<< Notes >>--- [1] "Noam Chomsky Replies re Kosovo." From the ZNet Forum System (presumably affiliated with Z Magazine). Courtesy A-Infos News Service, http://www.ainfos.ca/ [2] Ibid. [3] "Clinton, Albright lit Kosovo's fire," by Don Feder. The Boston Herald, 4/13/99. [4] "NATO bomb with a hand-written message by a psychotic." Tanjug news wire, 4/16/99. [5] "Civilians fired by the NATO bombs." www.serbia-info.com/news 4/13/99. [6] "Below It All in Kosovo, A War's Glittering Prize," by Chris Hedges. New York Times, 7/8/98. [7] "Text of Executive Order Designating Combat Zones," U.S. Newswire 13 Apr 18:22 [8] *The Squad: The U.S. Government's Secret Alliance With Organized Crime*, by Michael Milan. New York: Shapolsky Publishers, Inc., 1989. ISBN: 0-933503-36-9. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxi
[CTRL] Millions denied vote in ANC bid to squeeze rivals
-Caveat Lector- The sunday times- London April 18 1999 AFRICA Millions denied vote in ANC bid to squeeze rivals by RW Johnson Johannesburg AFTER working in South Africa for nearly four decades, Stan Moore, a Liverpool-born personnel manager, was finally given the vote - along with more than half a million other foreign residents - in the 1994 elections that ended white rule. Five years later, however, the ruling African National Congress (ANC) has disenfranchised them all in what critics say is a deliberate attempt by the party to tip the result in its favour in this year's elections on June 2. "When only whites had the vote here the Afrikaner nationalists had the whole situation locked up in their favour," said Moore, who retired recently from Anglo-American, the giant mining group. "But then we were all given the vote in 1994 and it really counted. Now the ANC are taking the vote from people like me because we're white and likely to vote for the opposition." Foreign residents like Moore form only one of several disgruntled groups complaining bitterly that the ANC, having come to power after a long struggle for universal suffrage, has set out to deprive opponents of the vote in its attempt to achieve the two-thirds majority that would allow it to make changes to the constitution. Under the new rules, South Africans studying, working or visiting abroad in June will not be allowed to vote, even though they were in 1994. There is no provision for postal voting. This would have excluded the country's cricket team, who will be in playing in the World Cup in England at the time. But after a public outcry, the government made an exception last week for those who register before leaving the country. Both groups are dwarfed, however, by the several million voters at home - mostly whites, coloureds and Asians - effectively disenfranchised by a new law that restricts the vote to those who can produce an up-to-date barcoded identity book. Under apartheid, the non-blacks were the first to be given identity papers. Although these old-fashioned documents are still legally valid, the government has insisted that only those who change them for modern computer-readable IDs will be allowed to vote. The opposition parties, conscious that it is predominantly their voters who are being disenfranchised, have fought the case up to the Constitutional Court - and failed. The court, which has a clear majority of ANC-leaning judges, has rubbed salt into their wounds by simultaneously deciding to extend the vote to the country's 150,000 prisoners, more than 90% of whom are black and expected to vote in disproportionately large numbers for the ANC. There is no doubting the boost the ruling party will obtain from the changes. Under the old rules, the ANC looked hard-pressed to match the 62.7% it won in 1994. With the various groups excluded, its share jumps to 64.5% - tantalisingy close to two-thirds. Under South Africa's system of proportional representation, the parties' share of seats closely reflects their share of the vote. The ANC has suggested it could change the constitution to exert greater political control over such independent institutions as the reserve bank, the auditor-general and the judiciary. An even greater fear among opposition politicians is that it might alter the constitution's property clause to allow for expropriation without compensation. Many whites see in the advance of the ANC juggernaut the impending arrival of a one-party state along Zimbabwean lines. The National party's posters echo the chaos of the state to the north: "Mugabe has two-thirds." The ANC, for its part, insists its intentions are benign but does not rule out any such changes. People like Moore are not convinced. April 18 1999 BRITAIN Plastics linked to sex mutation by Steve Farrar, Science Correspondent CHEMICALS in common plastics have been found to warp the sexual development of male rats, raising fears that man-made substances may be responsible for sexual mutations in animals and falling human sperm counts. A team of American government scientists has announced the first results from the most extensive toxicology tests yet undertaken of phthalates, oily solvents used to soften PVC. These are believed to be the most common artificial chemical found in the modern environment and are used in many household products, including children's toys. The scientists found that if large doses of the most ubiquitous phthalate, DEHP, were given to pregnant rats, their male offspring would often show sexual deformities, such as smaller or missing testicles or the development of nipples. The effects, detailed in the journal Toxicology and Industrial Health, were so pronounced that the team from the Environmental Protection Agency expects a significant impact to emerge even at lower doses. They believe similar effects may occur in humans if the phthalates are ingested, although such a link has not yet been proved. T
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >AOL User wrote: >> Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was >> listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler >> willingly, knowingly asked the devil inside to take him over. > >This is very interesting. Could you give more specifics, such as what >opera and where in the opera, what the "devil" said to him, and how Carr >obtained the information? And why ol' Scratch didn't do Hitler any good in getting into art school, nor helped him out in WWI? Seems ol' Splitfoot took his time in getting around to helping his 'disciple' out... ;-) June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bitter Anti-Americanism in Europe
-Caveat Lector- Must add a note here; Hap Arnold's daughter married into Douglass Aircraftshe (Barbara Douglass) was friends to my sister when they lived in Englandand my brother-in-law, WWI stuff, and hero kissed by DeGalle, was pallbearer to Hap Arnolds funeral. Arnold was one of the great American Heros also, as far as I was concerned. So, when there is reference to Arnold nad Douglass, no reference is ever made to the fact tht the family intermarried some yers ago. Colleen You win wars with planes, but only if ou set out to win. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Princeton hires the controversial Prof Singer
-Caveat Lector- Protesters denounce Princeton's hiring of controversial bioethics professor Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By JOHN CURRAN PRINCETON, N.J. (April 17, 1999 8:01 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - More than 100 protesters denounced Princeton University on Saturday for hiring a philosopher whose controversial views include allowing parents to end the lives of severely disabled infants. "Nazi Germany did the same thing to the disabled, judging their lives not worth living. We object to that," said John Scaturro, 49, who protested near the Ivy League school along with his wife and young daughter. University officials stood by the appointment of Peter Singer, a professor whose academic work they say will contribute to scholarship and ethics debates at Princeton. Singer, a professor at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, was appointed last year to the Ira W. DeCamp Professorship of Bioethics at the university's Center for Human Values. He is to begin work in July. The 52-year-old academic is widely considered the father of the international animal rights movement, and has argued parents should have the right to euthanize newborn children who have severe handicaps. In his books, Singer has said that children less than one month old have no human consciousness and do not have the same rights as others. "Killing a defective infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person," he wrote in one book. "Sometimes it is not wrong at all." His appointment at Princeton has drawn fierce opposition from anti-abortion groups, the disabled and others. Daniel Robert, 51, who uses a wheelchair, protested while wearing a black T-shirt that said "Not Dead Yet." "I don't want people killing babies like me or adults like me," Robert said. "We're just as proud to be alive as anyone else. And we have that right." Many protesters said Singer's hiring gives inappropriate legitimacy to his views. Princeton spokesman Justin Harmon defended Singer's hiring and suggested that some of his harshest critics have not read his books. "According to the experts in the field, he is the one of the strongest bioethicists out there," Harmon said. "He's been hired because of the strength of his teaching and his research, not because of any particular point of view he holds for or against any issue." DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I agree that the power of belief may be the full explanation for the >power derived from these "potions", but I do not discount the >possibility that the power of belief does not in some way link into >other powers we do not understand. Hitler DID seem to enjoy a hypnotic power to mesmerize audiences, both in person, on the airwaves, and on film, a power that seems far out of proportion for someone who on first glance looks like Charlie Chaplin... I remember in my late teens, my local PBS broadcast "Triumph of the Will" uncut, with subtitles... Now, Leni Reifenstahl (sp?) was a genius documentary maker, and a good portion of the power of this film quite rightly belongs to her...but major portions of the film are just a static camera on Hitler, giving one speech after another...no fancy camera angles, lighting, staging, really quite 'boring' on the face of it... But about 20 minutes into the film, it was showing one of these static speech scenes, and I stopped reading the subtitles...now, I don't know German, so I couldn't understand what Hitler was saying...but within a few moments, I felt myself 'mesmerized', and caught up in some strange feeling...and suddenly I could understand just WHY the German people followed this guy, without really thinking...it was really quite seductive, and here I was, 35 or more years later, KNOWING what this guy was and WHAT he caused, and I could easily understand why people adored him at the time (and indeed, why there are STILL people who adore him)... And I turned to my mother who was watching it with me, and mentioned how I'd been watching without reading the subtitles, and how I suddenly found myself memsmerized by Hitler, even tho I couldn't understand what he was saying (perhaps BECAUSE I couldn't understand, so that something more than words were at work)...and my mother said that at the time, people she knew wondered at Hitler's "charm", also, most passing it off as saying "well, he's a very neat person, and keeps himself well-kept"...() "Charm" indeed...as in occult charma potion/spell to make the people desire a man as their leader, no matter what WORDS are said... June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 50 Years of Research Results in AIDS??
-Caveat Lector- NATO came into being 50 years ago; and do not think there is no enemy withing therein. All these so called mysterious new diseasesif our immune systems have broken down, so has this country's immune system by the tearing down of its missile sites and closing of its bases systematically - while all the time NATO prepared for war. It occured to me, that My Name is Legion, answers a lot of questions - and suddenly, everything pulls together.assassinations, sabotage, and some is letting out the family secrets resulting in all kinds of retaliation. NATO - are they the Judges - over which Gideon seemingly reigned without a crown.is it NATO fulfiling the propheies in the bible - it appears to be tht the secret military group I was looking for, who Judged at midnight under a secret board of lesser Judges, is the NATO who put the bible code in effect in 1954from poisoned bread in Mexico, to assassination in Dallas, to the streets of Memphis, to the halls of a pantry in California.all controlled. But within NATO, we also have Cicero's Enemy Within, and Bobby Kennedy's Enemy Within to which he alludes in his book written when he was taking on organized crime, not knowing that Luckey Luciano, for example, had not only caused sabotge duirng WWII, but he could also stop sabotage, and didending up working with our Military. Well, somewhere NATO has not only an enemy within, but a spy within; and all their secrets are being loosed upon the public.From Legion, to the Alpha and Omega.and it is all Masonic. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"
-Caveat Lector- The biggest propagandist of all time was NostradamusHitler used his prophecies to predict a win for Germany and Churchill then used them and for victory to England. Nostradamus is only alive today because propagandists keep his body on ice. And, again, when the world did not end in 1666 as he said it would, to escape lynching, he turned the numbers upside down, to 1999.and the world will only end, if we let those who believe in this crap, let it. Colleen It is just that I do not believe in Nostradamus, as his preditions have been transalated to suit specific purposes.remember, Hitler had changed his name, to propagte a certain quantrain. Hi Andrew...how you doing. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkan Notes: 04-18-99
-Caveat Lector- >From NYPostOnLine SLOBBO IMPORTS FOREIGN DEATH SQUADS By NILES LATHEM --- - YUGOSLAV paramilitary leaders are importing freelance killers from neighboring countries to commit some of the worst horrors against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, according to new reports. Mercenaries from Russia, Romania and Bulgaria are terrorizing Kosovars for paychecks, according to chilling accounts from refugees in Albania and NATO intelligence reports. "With all the looting of homes and the stealing of money that is taking place in Kosovo, we believe there are many foreign mercenaries who are making a lot of money with the ethnic cleansing," said Fran Baba, head of the Union of Non-Government Organizations, which is coordinating war-crimes reporting in Tirana, Albania. In addition, hundreds of ethnic Serbs from Austria and Hungary are signing up as "weekend warriors" to join the vicious hit squads in Kosovo, NATO and human-rights organizations said. Many Serbs are said to be going into the Balkan war zone through Serbia, grabbing guns and orders, wreaking havoc for a few days and then returning to their jobs on Mondays. "There is nothing you can do to stop this," a NATO diplomat said. "It goes on in every conflict. Look, you even have foreigners fighting for the Kosovo Liberation Army," the diplomat told The Post. The professional soldiers appeared to be especially active in Gjackova, a Western Kosovo town that was a center of Albanian culture and resistance, witnesses said. Three refugees said the foreign mercenaries appeared to even have their own uniforms to distinguish them from Serbian units. "The Russians wore black masks and light blue hats," said one man from Gjackova, at a central processing center in Tirana. Many mercenaries are helping Serbia for political reasons, sharing the same Slavic culture and anti-NATO attitude. But others are fighting just for the money. The presence of the weekend warriors and the other outsiders in Serbian paramilitary hit squads is especially troublesome to war-crimes investigators - although not a new phenomenon. U.N. War Crimes investigators also discovered their presence in the 1993 ethnic war in Bosnia. Many of the mercenaries were operating under the command of Gen. Radko Mladic and Zeljko Raznatovic, also known as "Arkan" - two paramilitary leaders indicted for war crimes in Bosnia who are now said to be operating again in Kosovo. Their use of outsiders foiled war-crimes prosecutors because many perpetrators and witnesses returned to homes and jobs elsewhere in Europe, eluding investigators. NATO officials admit it's difficult track the movements of these mercenary groups. "Because we don't have people on the ground in Kosovo, we are getting the same reports as you are," said Col. Frank Salinas, a spokesman for NATO's military branch. But because of the scale of the atrocities now taking place in Kosovo, NATO and U.N. officials are vowing special efforts to catch the mass killers of the Albanian Kosovars. "Our mandate is to prosecute anyone - and that means anyone - who commits war crimes on Yugoslavian soil," said Jim Landale, spokesman for the U.N. Wars Crimes Tribunal at the International Court of Justice at the Hague, Netherlands. From telegraph.co.uk (two) ISSUE 1423 Sunday 18 April 1999 France fears aerial onslaught could provoke Moscow into war US blocks release of pilot's video <> SENIOR officials in Paris are claiming that the French government has vetoed plans by the Western allies to intensify the war against President Milosevic with an all-out aerial onslaught. According to the Elysée Palace, President Chirac blocked a move to begin a new offensive that would involve unlimited attacks on Serbian "centres of power" for fear of provoking Russia. In detailed briefings to senior French journalists, the Elysée conceded that opposition to what it calls "Phase Three" of the campaign has effectively isolated France from her allies. While the government remains committed to stepping up pressure on Milosevic - specifically approving the deployment of America's tank-busting helicopters - it remains convinced that it is too risky to confront Moscow with what amounts to "total war". In yesterday's Libération, the respected commentator Serge July said that the French government fears that the increasingly "fragile" Yeltsin administration, already facing hostile public opinion, would be forced to react vigorously. He said the Elysée's view was "things must not be allowed to slip out of control" on the battlefield, "or who is to say that we wouldn't eventually have to go to war with Russia?". In light of the dangers involved, said officials, France was now asking to be consulted in advance - unlike most other governments in the alliance - over the choice of specific targets. The sources stressed: "There will be no escalation without the agreement of France.
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- I understand where you are coming from, Andrew, but if/when Y2K hits, and your door is broken down by a street gang who haven't had anything to eat for a week, haven't had a drink of water for two days and haven't had a cigarette for four days, I wonder where your altruistic sentiments will go in a hurry? Like out the window? And will you then understand that the most basic right we have is the right to defend ourselves? Jean Staffen At 11:14 PM 4/17/98 +0100, Andrew Kieran wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >a weapon is what you make it. i do think it's very irresponsible to teach >children to kill though. > >violent society we live in. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?
-Caveat Lector- The president is also to see that laws are enflorced inasmuch as he heads up the Department of Justice, etd. Executive Orders - a President can do most anything not in conflict with the Constitution, because that is the law he swears under oath to support. The President is not God; he cannot make war and stop wars; he needs the approval of the Congress according to the Constitution, even if it is only a stamp of approval. When JFK signed the Executive Order which lay on his desk when he left for Dallas, and it was signed.it was an order that was not contrary to the Constitution and subject matter was within his realm to enforce. Clinton is playing God right now; drunk with power.he has taken a narrow poll, probably that of the independent voters knowing he will hve the democrats with him, and most of the republicans against him; this independent vote is the key to any election - this independent vote consists of a group of the elite, and must be hanging on with all their might right now because it is only the stock market that keeps Clinton going...in other words, not only is the lack of money the root of all evil, but the want of money is as well. Wall Street is safe with this illegal war going; nobody is getting hurt on our sideto me, one American life is not worth itespecially when you look at our humanitarian efforts in Yugoslavia. Clinton had no legal right to go into this war and he should be held legally responsible for any results of same, along with the Congress. Lets take thier pensions away.is not that what they are doing to the Social Security - which is our money? Vote them ALL out until they get the message, the good, the bad, and th oh so uglyand lets still send Madam Albright, the Butcher of the Balkans along with the Butcher of WACO, to Sadaam Hussein where he would put them both to work scrubbing floors. (On their knees moslem style) Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2K Bunker Mentality
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000271261842766&rtmo=ws0Aw5Qb&atmo= &pg=/et/99/4/18/wbunk18.html ISSUE 1423 Sunday 18 April 1999 <> New York City Mayor's Office of Emergency Management Y2K Preparedness - New York City Department of Environmental Protection Y2K issues - US Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] US Army National Guard The [US] President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion US: Office of Information Technology Year 2000 Computer Crisis Information centre / Millennium Bug Y2K banking, stock market and consumer goods issues - Gartner Group Interactive Information and advice for business; home-owners; and news on status of UK infrastructure - Action 2000 The Millennium Bomb - UK Central Computer and Telecommunications Agency [CCTA] Emergency planning in the UK and the millennium date change - UK Home Office Potential Y2K disaster scenarios - Gary North Links and Forum Potential Y2K disaster scenarios - Welcome to My Nightmare Learn how to prepare for and survive Y2K - Y2KSupply.com Electronic Telegraph Y2K forum What governments are doing The top 40 Y2K sites <> US sets up bunkers to beat Millennium chaos By James Langton in New York AMERICA'S major cities are preparing secret command centres and making plans to mobilise armed troops in the event of a possible breakdown of social order if there is widespread computer failure on the eve of 2000. City fathers are known to be concerned that the so-called Y2K bug could cause widespread power failures, the breakdown of traffic management and difficulties in running everything from airports to ambulances. The result is a revival of the bunker mentality not seen since the end of the Cold War. Last week New York revealed that its new $12 million emergency command centre was: "Ninety per cent complete but fully operational." The 23rd-floor, 46,000 sq ft complex, near the World Trade Centre in Manhattan, can house up to 100 of the city's most senior employees and is protected behind a wall of bullet-proof glass. It was built above ground because of the risk of flooding from broken water mains. Mayor Rudi Giuliani ordered the construction of the new control room only last year. While it is designed to deal with any emergency from a terrorist attack to a hurricane, the speed of its construction suggests that New York's planning for possible Y2K chaos is at an advanced stage. It was used for the first time during a snow storm in February. Other areas are taking similar precaution. State officials in Ohio announced last month that they were ready to move government operations into a $13-million bunker eight miles outside downtown Columbus on Dec 29. The command centre will be manned 24 hours a day from New Year's Eve until it is no longer needed. It is surrounded by barbed wire, with underground dormitories, a filtered air supply, food and water. The Ohio state officials say that it will be used to co-ordinate relief efforts if there is a major failure of public utilities. The centre's director of operations is James Williams, a retired Army National Guard general who insists that the decision to man the centre for the end of the Millennium is "not a panic situation. If nothing happens, we can go home and watch football." Los Angeles, which experienced serious rioting following the Rodney King trial in 1992, is understood to be preparing an operations centre five floors beneath a federal building in the centre of the city. The Automated Traffic Signal and Control Centre (ATSAC) is normally used to manage traffic in the notoriously congested Los Angeles area but has the advantage of dozens of remote-control cameras at strategic road junctions which could become the eyes and ears of emergency planners. The ATSAC command centre is also designed to be proof against earthquakes and nuclear explosions, and is protected by four vault doors similar to those used in banks. It has its own power system and can be reached only by a secret lift. American government officials have admitted that they have no idea of the possible disruption that the Y2K bug could potentially cause on the most technologically dependent nation in the world. As in Britain, government bodies as well as private companies have been racing against time to ensure that the computers which run everything from nuclear missiles to air traffic control are reprogrammed to work normally from January 1. The Y2K computer problem is caused by some computer chips reading the year 2000 as 1900 because they only recognise the last two digits, and therefore either malfunctioning or shutting off the system they are controlling. Washington has been playing down fears of disruption caused by Y2K computer crashes. Tens of thousands of Americans are less confident, however, and are actively preparing for the worst. Stocks of oil lamps and wood stoves are almost exhausted in many areas, along with supplies of dried foods in quantities which wo
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat]
-Caveat Lector- >Well, you would be half right. Sort of. His family was Serbian, but had >lived in the Croatian area for several generations. His father was an >Orthodox priest. I am not sure, but I think they lived in the Kryiena >(sp?) region mentioned as having recently gone through ethnic cleansing. Tesla was born in Split, in what is now Croatia (the borders back then were much fuzzier, since the whole place was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, this being before the Balkan Wars, the ones from 1903-1913). I seem to recall his mother was a Serb. He went to university in Prague, but didn't stay to complete his degree (ISTR all he missed out on was the final exam, and by then he had basic patents for several devices which were far better credentials than a bachelor's degree would ever have been, so off he went to the US, eventually becoming a naturalised citizen in 1899. Andrew __ The information in this email is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any person other than the addressee except with our prior written approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Copyright in this email and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. A list of the partners of Hammond Suddards and details about the firm can be inspected at www.hammondsuddards.co.uk __ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"
-Caveat Lector- >The first World War was the first time there was >highly organized state propaganda. Inaccurate. Kitchener organised the first serious news control in the Sudan and the Boer Wars, and there had been news management as far back as the Crimea. >The British had >a Ministry of Information, and they really needed >it because they had to get the U.S. into the war >or else they were in bad trouble. In the second world war, certainly. In the first lot, by the time the US came in, we'd confined the German fleet to its home ports (battle of Jutland), held the germans to their lines for the best part of three years, and had them on the cusp of the three months of continuous German retreat that brought about the 1918 armistice. Total US involvement in World War I was somewhere less than 100,000 (ie., about a week's casualties for the British and French during an offensive). All the US forces in WWI did was balance up the Russian capitulation. Andrew __ The information in this email is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any person other than the addressee except with our prior written approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Copyright in this email and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. A list of the partners of Hammond Suddards and details about the firm can be inspected at www.hammondsuddards.co.uk __ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 50 Years of Research Results in AIDS??
-Caveat Lector- So AIDS and some other things have a underling cause. What triggers the underling cause? Pesticides and herbicides have been known to show genetic damage that can go to the 2nd and 3rd generation. They take down the immune system and leave us open to other things. Laura DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- <>Wish more would learn! If wishes were horses beggers would ride. Teach! Teach! Teach! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Interview
-Caveat Lector- Great post! Wish more would learn! Juan Mary -Original Message- From: Jim Yester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Interview > -Caveat Lector- > >In a message dated 4/17/99 6:13:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> >> a weapon is what you make it. i do think it's very irresponsible to teach >> children to kill though. >> >> violent society we live in. >> >I wondered why the Colonel didn't respond that it was irrresponsible NOT to >teach youngsters how to handle a firearm - "violent society we live in." >Learning to use a weapon is not learning to kill; it is learning to defend >oneself. There are statistics indicating that firearms are used more often in >the prevention of violent crimes than in the commission of them. > >Jim > >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic >screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters >and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright >frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects >spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL >gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; >be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and >nazi's need not apply. > >Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >Archives Available at: >http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > >To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Om > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'
-Caveat Lector- I pulled out the book, it looks like the incident at age l2 was not this one. I can't find where that one was. According to the Carr book, paperback version, Chapter "Was Hitler Demon Possessed", pp. 73ff, he went to Wagner's opera, "Rienzi", at the Linz Opera House in November, l904. In l938 Hitler said, looking back at that opera, "In that hour it began" (citing Augustin Kubizek, "The Young Hitler I Knew", Houghton Mifflin Co., Boston, l955) He was at Pasewalk, Germany Military Reserve Hospital in Oct and Nov l9l8 diagnosed as probable hysteria. He at that time heard voices saying providence had selected him to rid Germany of Jews. This corroborated a prophecy he'd received as young man in Linz. Sorry I read this years ago, I looked and can't find the part where he purposely invited Satan into his soul, I know it is there. The book is chocked full of info: The Twisted Cross, Joseph J. Carr, Huntington House, Shreveport, LA l985 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Limitations on E.O.'s?
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Years and years ago, a friend of mine gave me the huge Ohio Revised Code > in one bookI read it all, but got really bored when it came to the > banking and money stuff, where most of the dirty work is usually done - > securities and all that. > > There was one law on the books then, that I still remember and did not > question or wonder why: (Actually, believe was two laws). > > One law forbid Greek Fraternities.. > > Other Law forbid anyone other than a Mason from wearing Masonic > regalia(and the word I think was regalia). > > I do not know if this law is still on books; but would have to be under > Chapter 29 criminal code.I ran across it again in 1969 when I filed > the soothsaying without a license charge against Jeanne Dixon, the Tokyo > Rose of Washington Square.but again, do not believe any of these > laws were repealed and still stand. > > Why would it be illegal to wear Masonic Regalia..yet on the other > hand, why would it bann fraternities using Greek letters etc. All > these fraternities use the King James Bible for their rituals.just > like the Mafia. > > Do not have this huge law book anymore; and have no access to Ohio code > at this point in time. > > Colleen > Colleen, if Ohio is like Florida, the statues are now on line. You might try a search like 'Ohio Statues'. Jim Norman DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?
-Caveat Lector- This cite to AmJur concerns laws not EO's. It has nothing to do with EO's. Only Congress can make laws. Only the President can make EO's. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Big Lie About Kosovo + The war in Kosovo is about the mines + MUCH much more
-Caveat Lector- From: jean hudon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jean Hudon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Big Lie About Kosovo + The war in Kosovo is about the mines + MUCH much more Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:24 AM Hello everyone I have 2 updates ready to send you about the war in Kosovo, This one is a compilation of various texts presenting some perspectives you won't find in the mainstream (elite-controlled) media. Some of this might appear discouraging or even disempowering. Yet, unless enough people become aware of such information and analysis of what is going on, it is likely that indeed we will be powerless to stop this. Of course information of that undisclosed kind is not the only way to disarm the elite conspiracy (in my view) behind this war. The spiritual all-pervading influence of peace-nudging meditations are also a formidable instrument of harmony and sanity we can all continue to use daily to counter such ploys. We are in the thick of it. Let's keep this world afloat Jean Hudon Earth Rainbow Network Coordinator http://www.cybernaute.com/earthconcert2000 P.S. The next update (to be sent tomorrow probably From: Palden Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Report from Neda in Belgrade Here's a brief bulletin from a friend called Neda in Belgrade, Serbia, written midnight at the end of Wednesday 14th April. Neda is a health worker who once lived for two years in England. She's in the thick of it. Palden. You wanted to hear how it is here now. Here you are. It is midnight and I have just heard a bang. I don't know if it is a bomb which fell or our air defence (is it the real term?) which shot a missile(?). I opened the window just in case, as it is suggested we do that (it saved my windows couple of times), and from somewhere, probably from the bridge which is just down the hill, I hear a song. There must be at least few hundreds of voices. I shiver. Best wishes Neda - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/4/13/114554 April 14, 1999 The Big Lie About Kosovo by Richard Poe "Save the Albanian Kosovars!" Clinton cries. "Save the Sudeten Germans!" Hitler trumpeted in 1938. The names have changed, but the strategy remains the same. For more than 50 years, we Americans have looked down our noses at the Germans, for having followed Hitler so blindly. But now it's our turn. We are proving no more resistant to propaganda than those cheering crowds in Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. Back in the 1930s, Adolf Hitler needed an excuse to seize Czechoslovakia. So he invented one. Three and a quarter million ethnic Germans lived in the Sudetenland, under Czech rule. As William L. Shirer recounts in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Hitler secretly funded an extremist group called the Sudeten German Party and ordered it to provoke an uprising against the Czechs. Kosovo, too, appears to have been destabilized by outside forces. For years, Kosovars protested Milosevic peacefully. But in 1997, a group called the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) suddenly started shooting. Who were these people? The Times of London (March 24, 1999) described the KLA as "a Marxist-led force funded by dubious sources, including drug money." European police suspect the KLA of connections to Albanian gangsters. At least two of the group's backers appear to have been the CIA and the German spy agency BND, according to intelligence analyst John Whitley, quoted in the Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletin (April 2, 1999). The purpose of staging a provocation is to create a backlash. This strategy certainly worked for Hitler in 1938. As unrest spread in the Sudetenland, the Czechs cracked down. Czech President Eduard Benes ordered troops into the region and declared martial law. Right on cue, the German press went wild. "Women and Children Mowed Down by Armored Cars," ran a typical Berlin newspaper headline in September 1938. "Poison Gas Attack on Aussig" cried another. Hitler accused Benes of waging a "war of extermination" against Sudeten Germans. "The Germans he now drives out!" cried Hitler, in a September 16, 1938 speech. "We see the appalling figures: on one day 10,000 fugitives, on the next 20,000... and today 214,000. Whole stretches of country were depopulated, villages are burned down, attempts are made to smoke out the Germans with hand-grenades and gas." Sound familiar? Hitler's rhetoric bears an eerie resemblance to the CNN news blitz on Kosovo. Of course, Hitler was exaggerating. Many of the atrocities he alleged later turned out to be fabrications. But the same is true of our newscasts on Kosovo. Take the alleged massacre of 45 Albanian civilians at Racak, for instance, reported in January 1999. Forensic and other evidence now suggests that the bodies were those of KLA guerrillas killed in combat. The hoax has been widely discussed in the European press (including Le Monde, Die Welt, Le Figaro and the BBC). Bu
[CTRL] Bitter Anti-Americanism in Europe
-Caveat Lector- "Behind Europe's acceptance of U.S. leadership in the Yugoslav crisis, however grudging and bitter, is the fact that the European Union itself has no leader. "After the EU's executive branch and governing commission floundered in scandal--" (Is that convenient, or what?) "Four of the globe's five leading defense contractors are American-based firms, and the annual sales of just two of them, Lockheed Martin and Boeing-McDonnell Douglas, exceed those of all European defense firms combined. Bitter Debate in Europe on U.S. Role/ Washington's dominance of NATO creates wave of anti-Americanism by Frank Viviano San Francisco Chronicle, April 15, 1999 As bombing raids mount over Serbia, NATO's war against Slobodan Milosevic is paralleled by a bitter war of words raging inside the borders of the Atlantic Alliance itself. The confrontation pits NATO's supporters against an unlikely coalition of opponents -- ranging from the Communist Party in Italy to the extreme right-wing National Front in France, along with a broad range of prominent intellectuals and mainstream politicians -- who view the intervention in Kosovo as a thinly disguised effort to impose Washington's will on Europe's future. ``Held on a leash by the Americans, we have violated international law and the charter of the United Nations,'' charges former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt. ``Europe cannot accept the presence on its soil of a man (Milosevic) and a regime which, for nearly 10 years, has engaged in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and now in Kosovo, in ethnic cleansing operations, assassinations and massacres,'' responds French President Jacques Chirac. Ironically, NATO's critics and supporters alike ask precisely the same question that troubles many Americans: Will Europe ever be able to police its own back yard? Kosovo demonstrates ``that a common European defense policy is brutally absent today, and also that such a policy has never appeared so necessary,'' Francois Hollande, first secretary of France's governing Socialist Party, said Friday. ``NATO has become the de facto department of diplomacy, defense and security in Europe,'' declares former French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua, a right-wing critic of the Kosovo intervention. There is little sign that the controversy will halt the bombing, which is firmly backed by the center-left parties that govern 13 of the European Union's 15 member-states in 1999 and also by a majority of their voters. But there is every sign that the bitterness will be lasting, as will European unhappiness with military reliance on the United States. ``The partnership with NATO in the Yugoslav crisis is simply a cloak, masking great differences between the United States and its European allies,'' a former high-ranking aide to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in a Chronicle interview before the bombing campaign had even begun. Since then, the cloak has decidedly come off, in a wave of the harshest anti-Americanism to sweep Western Europe since the Vietnam War. The acrimony has been greatest in France, where suspicion of U.S. intentions always runs high and where the commitment of troops and equipment to the Kosovo intervention is the largest of any European country in the alliance. HOSTILE COMMENTARIES At times, newspaper commentaries are so unremittingly hostile to the United States that a reader might well imagine Paris is at war with the Pentagon, rather than with the Yugoslav army. ``In the event of total victory (in Kosovo), one would have to say that it is both a great military success for NATO -- that is, for the United States -- and an irreparable humanitarian catastrophe, a political setback for Europe,'' thundered Alain Joxe, director of France's elite Graduate School of Social Studies and an influential political pundit. America's strategic and economic views ``are dangerous and foreign to our political ethics,'' he wrote in Le Monde on Monday. Its activities in Kosovo ``do not set the stage for postwar reconstruction, but for mafia chaos.'' Regis Debray, a longtime adviser to late French President Francois Mitterrand, went so far as to charge that his fellow Europeans had become brain-dead automatons, their minds destroyed by American imperialism and too much exposure to frivolous U.S. cultural exports. In a fog induced by overconsumption of McDonald's, CNN and Hollywood movies, ``America is deprogramming Europe, which grows as uncivilized and myopic as its leader,'' he wrote in a widely quoted attack on the Kosovo intervention April 1. ``America: You have to be against her. That's the basic demand of intellectual conformism, on the left and on the right (in Europe),'' French writer Pascal Bruckner answered in an angry reply. ``In short, you put those who want to save the Kosovars on the same level as those who want to liquidate them.'' PHILOSOPHER'S VIEW
Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?
-Caveat Lector- Article on Executive Orders: http://www.connecti.com/~knobby/tyranny.html Bob Stokes wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > The point here is that there is no Constitutional basis for EOs. What I > have heard (not verifiable in laws) is that an EO takes effect in 30 days if > it is not disputed by Congress, then it becomes law. The Executive branch > has no Constitutional authority to create laws, only the legislative branch. > Clinton's power play (EO 11083) > on federalism is the only one that has been disputed recently. > > The paragraph below explains EO standing: > > "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having > the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and > ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the > time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so > branding it... No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no > courts are bound to enforce it." > -- 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256 > > Regards, > Bob Stokes > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Michael & the Outlawlady The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Konformist
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-17 23:50:33 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Let's hope there is already enough evil going on with war and >nothing domestically happens. Fingers crossed ... But there are all those "un-American" anti-war "radicals" now, who are already shown on TV (or at least on local TV, here in San Francisco) calling Clinton a genocidal murderer ... Don't forget the '60s, when protesters against the VIETNAM War were met by surveillance, or force, or "legally" silenced on trumped-up charges. One can never be quite sure what these "dangerous madmen" who "see conspiracies everywhere" and dare to question authority openly are "capable of," according to the cliche picture conveyed repeatedly by the mass media since Waco and the WTO bombing -- especially NOW, when moneyed, militarized, social-control institutions like NATO (largely a front for the US military/corporate/intelligence establishment) are so paranoid about the legitimacy of their OWN authority, already thrusting well beyond all lawful bounds and rational justification. Much is possible during a virtual state of war, and more when we're LITERALLY at war, which we can expect to be the case shortly -- and the opportunities, alas, are all on the side of certain types who expect the PUBLIC to submit to their power every bit as much as the ENEMY and who regard any kind of domestic dissent as the equivalent of treason -- particularly if it's VISIBLE dissent that might reveal to "the enemy" that the American people are not united foursquare behind, and blindly support, the whims of a "macho" US military-industrial inferiority complex. Already I'm reading editorials in the press, by "mainstream" journalists, that accuse those using the Internet to criticize this war of being the equivalent of "fifth columnists," irresponsibly (or worse, like Tokyo Rose) "forwarding Enemy propaganda" ... Yes, the Cold War is back, and with it, a paranoid Manichean dualism that is best represented fictionally in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1954). The pods, they are a-growin' ... They "thin the herd" of influential or potentially influential dissenters, like peeling successive layers of an onion, in the following manner: First they "woo," appealing to herd feelings like the fear of social disapproval. That failing, they bribe with something valuable, money or desired advantages. That failing, they back into the shadows, plot to entrap, and then resort to blackmail. Should THAT fail, they say "Oh, to hell with it" and just bring in the Rottweilers. Beat the rush: start now to take inventory of where you're vulnerable to control. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?
-Caveat Lector- The point here is that there is no Constitutional basis for EOs. What I have heard (not verifiable in laws) is that an EO takes effect in 30 days if it is not disputed by Congress, then it becomes law. The Executive branch has no Constitutional authority to create laws, only the legislative branch. Clinton's power play (EO 11083) on federalism is the only one that has been disputed recently. The paragraph below explains EO standing: "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it... No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it." -- 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256 Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: End Arbitrary Access to the Voting Booth!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/15/99 9:24:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << YIKES!!! Don't these laws apply to all the races? Instead of changing the laws, Blacks can avoid becoming criminal felons. Now there's a radical concept. Joshua2 >> I agree. Maybe here is something that will open a few eyes to the "justice" system. In 1986-87 I was called to jury duty. I was called to a case and the lawyers began to question us about the case, our opinions etc. The DA said he wanted me dismissed from the case because I was active duty military and not a permanent resident of Colorado Springs. This gave me a case of the ass because the guy sitting next to me was acceptable even though he was a convicted felon. Just another way that a military person is discriminated against while a criminal is given privileges. The ACLU is a shitty organization with a sinister agenda ... giving criminals the right to vote ... don't we have enough criminals in the State legislatures and Washington DC? When I went to the ACLU about discriminatory hiring practices at DIGITAL (now out of business) they were very rude ... they more or less said that a white male couldn't be a victim of discrimination, but then again they don't consider affirmative action as discriminatory. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NWO - Fast Comming
Is there a conspiracy of secret societies that are attempting to control the world and turn it into a place that where freedom of thought will be a thing of the past? Here is a link that provides insight into the elusive answers to these perplexing questions. And maybe we all can come closer to understanding what is truely going on in the world. http://www.technostud.com/cyberworld/wwwboard/messages/3.html --- ---
