[CTRL] Fwd: MIND CONTROL TRICKERY Part II

[Mary Wheeler]

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Date: 4/6/2000

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  "dudalb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Too coolsnoop: You can of course offer solid evidience to back up you
> statementI am not holding my breath for a reply...

Intelligence agencies use mind control technologies to simulate mental illness in 
their subjects, causing them to wind up in mental institutions. It's logical enough, 
no? Ordinary police catch overt criminals who are thrown into prison. But the secret 
police target "subversives" and spies, "imprisoning" them in mental asylums. The 
principle behind these technologies is well described in US Patent no's 4,877,027 and 
3,951,134 which you can look up yourself at www.uspto.gov.

Consider the following high profile case (from The Washington Post), where an 
artificial psychosis was induced on a formerly healthy young man who has been accused 
of spying. All very convenient for the FBI, which probably doesn't want its secrets 
splashed all over the newspapers thru a very public court trial...


ESPIONAGE SUSPECT FOUND INCOMPETENT; AUSTRALIAN ACCUSED OF SELLING U.S. DOCUMENTS, 
PHOTOS FACES FURTHER TREATMENT

BROOKE A. MASTERS
WASHINGTON POST STAFF WRITER

Saturday, November 20, 1999; Page B02

A former Australian intelligence analyst charged with selling U.S. secrets to a 
foreign country is not mentally competent to stand trial at this point, federal mental 
health officials have found.

Jean-Philippe Wispelaere was supposed to go on trial earlier this month in federal 
court in Alexandria on espionage and attempted espionage charges, but in September his 
behavior became increasingly erratic and bizarre, his lawyer said.

Wispelaere, 28, was sent to a federal corrections facility in Butner, N.C., for 
observation, and officials there concluded that he was incompetent to assist in his 
defense, in part because he would not or could not participate in psychological 
testing.

The doctors at Butner have asked for 120 more days to evaluate and treat Wispelaere, 
who allegedly stole hundreds of highly sensitive documents and photographs that U.S. 
intelligence officials had shared with Australia. Before his arrest May 15, the 
Australian allegedly offered his wares to another foreign country and accepted more 
than $120,000 from FBI officials during a sting. Authorities have not said which 
country was involved.

Wispelaere's attorney, Nina Gisberg, said that in September her client began bursting 
into inappropriate laughter and banging his hands against his head. He was unable to 
follow what his attorneys were saying, even though he had been able to discuss the 
case beforehand, she said, and he also stopped eating.

"To see a human being just come to pieces like this was very frightening," Ginsberg 
said.

Finding a defendant in a criminal case incompetent to stand trial is unusual. Few 
defense attorneys even try to raise the issue; and when suspects are sent for 
evaluation, more than 90 percent of them are found to be competent, said University of 
Virginia forensic clinical psychological Dewey G. Cornell.

Wispelaere's mental health records are sealed to protect his privacy. Cornell said 
incompetent defendants are usually delusional, extremely depressed or severely 
mentally handicapped.

Unlike a finding of not guilty by reason of insanity, incompetency usually does not 
provide permanent protection from prosecution.
Incompetent defendants are usually treated until their conditions improve enough for 
them to work with their attorneys.

"Incompetence is simply a timeout," Cornell said.

Wispelaere, who has a master's degree in strategic defense studies, worked for the 
Australian Defence Intelligence Organization for six months ending in January. At that 
time, according to court documents, he walked into the Bangkok embassy of the unnamed 
country and offered to sell the classified documents. The FBI found out about the 
alleged offer and launched its sting.

The defendant was arrested at Dulles International Airport in May. If convicted, he 
would face a maximum of life in prison.

U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema has given Ginsberg and the U.S. attorney's 
office until Monday to respond to the doctors' recommendation.


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Re: [CTRL] Beyond the Myths

[David Sutherland]

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Why don't the Serbs ask the great papa that dresses like mamma to
intervene - I'm sure he could "help" - he's helped SO much around the word -
the world media's untouchable "messiah" also has the ear of that RC Jesuit
Georgetown University trained Mr Clinton does he not?

If they get the wannabe actor come "holy" papa on side, then the RC
"charities", I'm certain, will also assist the Serbs - rather than the
Muslims, as they did during the last war in the region - on that occasion
caught red-nunny-knickered guns, munitions, and supplies running - as was
reported.

Oh - BTW - did the "holy" priests, and their military sycophants, during the
last crusade, shout the "holy" cry "Convert or Die" to all dissenters - as
they did in like fashion when they supported their most "holy" son of the
church - Adolf Hitler, and their other WWII [crusaders] aka dictators?




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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:03 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Beyond the Myths


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> ===
> The Committee for National Solidarity
> Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU
>
> www.serbianna.com
> April 1, 2000
>
> Beyond the Myths
>
> by William Dorich
>
> April 1, 2000 - In a recent article in Air Force Associates magazine
> entitled, Kosovo Retrospective Balkan
> Myths by Rebecca Grant, president of IRIS, an independent research firm in
> Washington, should have been the
> magazine's April Fool's Day editorial, it was sick.Sadly it reveals that
Ms.
> Grant and Air Force Associates are
> in the myth-making business that they both criticize.
>
> Bombing a defenseless population from the safety of 15,000 feet is no
myth,
> it's a war crime. Or is shooting
> fish in a barrel the ''Be All You Can Be'' military today in the U.S? That
> motto was coined by Maxwell Thurman
> known as ''Maxatollah'' head of the U. S. Southern Command during the
Panama
> invasion. This is the same, 'be
> all you can be' American general who sold his military knowledge and
> experience to train, aid and abet
> genocide in Croatia. He is one of several retired American generals for
hire
> at Military Professional Resources,
> Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, a sub-contractor used in foreign
involvements
> to skirt American laws. These
> American generals trained the Croatian army just prior to Operation Storm
> which ethnically cleansed the last
> 200,000 Serbs from Croatia in August of 1995.Not a single Croatian general
> has been indicted for these war
> crimes which included the slaughter of over 4,000 Serbian women and
> children, the destruction of 65 UN
> posts, the killing of 2 UN troops and the use of 60 UN troops as human
> shields.The blind eye of Rebecca
> Grant is as offensive as President Clinton's blind eye which ignored the
> flow of Iranian weapons and Islamic
> holy warriors in Bosnia and to Osama bin Laden's support of the
> narco-terrorists Albanians who now reign
> terror over Kosovo.
>
> In the recently released book, Kosovo Crisis: A Study in Foreign Policy
> Mismanagement by Dr. Vojin
> Joksimovich, which I published and which I presented last week before the
> House of Representatives in
> Washington, DC, Col. David Hackworth, the highest decorated American
soldier
> in Vietnam, endorsed the book
> by saying, ''This brilliant fact-filled book exposes a Clinton/Clark phony
> victory. Kosovo Crisis destroys the
> myth of NATO's invincibility and exposes NATO's General Clark as an inept
> fumbler and military lightweight.
> Contrary to his claims, Clark, a Perfumed Prince, barely scratched the
> Serbian Army.''Ms. Grant would have us
> believe Col. Hackworth is a liar.
>
> Rebecca Grant cleverly omits any reference that the Serbs figured out a
way
> to rig microwave ovens to
> operate with the doors open which resembled the heat of a radar site to a
> HARM missile.General Clark
> launched hundreds of HARM missiles costing $700,000 each to destroy $70
> microwave ovens.Ms. Grant
> protest too much, or is this an indication of the level of contempt she
has
> for the truth?
>
> Her claim that, ''Aerospace power has been proven to be decisive in joint
> military operations'' makes her look
> stupid since the Russians beat NATO forces to Pristina without joint
> approval. British General Michael Jackson,
> to his credit, refused to follow General Wesley Clark's orders to bomb the
> Russians.He said, ''I'm not going to
> start World War III over you.'' It was obvious the United States worked
> outside of NATO command and carried
> out a war within a war proven by the fact that the U.S. sent an aircraft
all
> the way from Missouri to bomb the
> Chinese embassy when the U.S. already had 700 aircraft a few hundred miles
> away in Italy.Meanwhile NATO
> forces were finding it necessary to borrow weapons from SFOR troops in
> Bosni

[CTRL] Fwd: Gore's Lies -- Forward this to every person of voting age

[A.C. Szul Jr.]

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FYI...some good stuff. Read on...

>  You may have gotten an e-mail forwarded from Al Gore's Campaign
telling you
>  how rotten George W. Bush's record in Texas is. Thanks to the
enterprising
>  work of Jennifer Strong from the GREAT State of Texas and other
great
>  Americans, more Gore lies, exagerrations, and diversions have been
uncovered.
>
>  This is Gore's e-mail, followed by the facts.
>
>  > Subj: The great state of Texas
>
>  > The state of Texas, under the leadership of Governor George W.
>  > Bush, is ranked:
>
>  > 50th in spending for teachers' salaries
>
>  FACT: Wrong, Prince Albert. Actually, Bush's Texas is *9th* in
Teacher Pay,
>  not 50th, factoring in cost-of-living and teacher experience. And
thanks to
>  George W. Bush, Texas teachers got a whopping 33% raise, lots more
than the
>  national average.
>
>  > 41st in per-capita spending on public education
>
>  FACT: Bush's Texas is #1 in improving test scores, especially for
Latinos
> and
>  African American students. Thanks to George W. Bush, state education
funding
>  per pupil is up 37% since he took office.
>
>  What happened under Gore and Clinton? While test scores skyrocketed
in
Texas,
>
>  they remained stagnant nationally. Next time you see Gore, ask him,
"You've
>  had eight years. Where are the better schools you promised?"
>
>  > 49th in spending on the environment
>  > 1st in air and water pollution
>
>  FACT: Only because of an antiquated pre-Bush law that exempted older
>  factories from having to clean up their emissions. Bush was the
FIRST
>  Governor to make them clean up. As a result, TEXAS IS #1 in reducing
toxic
>  waste emissions under Bush.
>
>  > 48th in per-capita funding for public health
>  > 1st in percentage of poor working parents without insurance
>
>  FACT: Under George W. Bush, Texas was the first in the nation to
allow a
>  patient to appeal HMO decisions to deny care. Bush's Texas also
prohibited
>  gag clauses that prevented doctors from discussing all treatment
options
> with
>  their patients. And Texas law insures that people with pre-existing
>  conditions will not lose health insurance when they change jobs.
>
>  What happened under Gore and Clinton? They promised to reform health
care
> and
>  have done nothing. They've had eight years, and eight million more
Americans
>  are uninsured.
>
>  > 47th in delivery of social services
>  > 5th in percentage of population living in poverty
>
>  FACT: Take notice: Prince Albert apparently believes it is terrible
if
fewer
>  people actually need welfare "delivered" to their doorstep. Unlike
Al Gore,
>  George W. Bush believes that freeing people from the chains of
welfare and
>  giving them independence is a GREAT thing. That's why Texas was one
of the
>  ten most successful states in implementing welfare reform. Texas was
so
>  successful that Gore's Administration tried to stop Bush from
implementing
>  innovative, faith-based solutions to radically reduce the welfare
rolls
even
>  more, lest Bush get the credit.
>
>  Also, under Governor Bush:
>  - Texas is #4 in personal income (i.e. people are richer)
>  - Texas has the lowest unemployment in 20 years.
>
>  > 1st in executions (avg. 1 every 2 weeks for Bush's 5 years)
>
>  FACT: Uh... did someone forget to mention that Al Gore is for the
death
>  penalty too? Actually, Green Party candidate Ralph Nader is the only
serious
>  candidate who opposes the death penalty.
>
>  > Forward this to every person of voting age
>
>  This part we agree with!
>
>  For the full report of Gore lies exposed,
>
>  http://people.ce.mediaone.net/ilrepublican/ilrepublican/gore.htm
>

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[CTRL] The attorney general is out

[Richard Sampson]

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http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/ed-house-20004618217.htm

EDITORIAL • April 6, 2000

The attorney general is out


 Janet Reno isn't a real
attorney general. She just
plays one. What other
conclusion could be drawn
from the remarkable interview
that NBC's Tim Russert
conducted on "Meet the Press"
this week with Charles
LaBella, the former head of a
Justice Department task force
investigating alleged
violations of campaign-finance
laws?
 Mr. LaBella told Mr.
Russert that he never had a
"substantive conversation"
with Miss Reno after he
submitted a memo in July
1998 recommending the
appointment of an
independent counsel to
examine campaign
fund-raising by President
Clinton, Vice President Gore,
first lady Hillary Rodham
Clinton and former White
House Deputy Chief of Staff
Harold Ickes. Mr. Russert then
asked Mr. LaBella what Miss
Reno's deputies told him. "I
didn't have a conversation
with anybody substantively
about the memo. I have never
to this day had a conversation
with anybody about my memo
at the Justice Department," Mr.
LaBella replied. "I handed it
in. I really believed in my
heart of hearts that it was
going to start a dialogue." Mr.
LaBella said his memo was "an
interim report . . . not a final
report. This was not the end of
the day." In fact, as far as Miss
Reno was concerned, it was
the end of the day for Mr.
LaBella, who, after the
attorney general rejected his
recommendation without
offering him any reason why,
promptly returned to San
Diego.
 It's worth recalling the
September 1997 circumstances
under which Miss Reno
handpicked Mr. LaBella, a
seasoned white-collar
prosecutor from the San Diego
U.S. attorney's office, to lead
the Justice Department's
campaign-finance task force.
At the time, the task force was
mired in chaos. Reporters, not
the task force, were doing
most of the detective work.
Mr. LaBella brought with him
several experienced field
prosecutors and credibility
that had been sorely lacking
up to that point.
 Throughout his nine-month
tenure as head of the task
force, Mr. LaBella told Miss
Reno in his July 1998 memo,
career Justice Department
officials engaged in legal
"contortions" and
"gamesmanship" to avoid an
independent investigation of
the Clinton-Gore campaign's
fund-raising abuses.
 Moreover, completely
contradicting Miss Reno's
assertions to Congress that no
serious rifts occurred among
the task force members, one of
the field prosecutors brought
in by Mr. LaBella told the Los
Angeles Times that senior
Justice officials engaged in
"unprecedented hostility"
toward the field prosecutors.
In a December 1997 memo,
field prosecutor Steve Clark
said high-level Justice officials
hampered efforts to
investigate possible corruption
by engaging in
"behind-the-scenes
maneuvering, personal
animosity, distortions of fact
and contortions of law." Mr.
LaBella told Mr. Rus

[CTRL] FW: Biotech television ads begin

[Dave]

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Dave Hartley
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-Original Message-
From: The Campaign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: News Update <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 2:01 AM
Subject: Biotech television ads begin


>Broadcast News From The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods
>--
>
>Dear Health Freedom Fighters,
>
>The first television ads promoting genetically engineered foods began to be
>shown on Monday. It is reported that Monsanto and other biotech companies
>plan to spend $50 million this year and up to $250 million over the next
>five years on their advertising campaign. Below are two articles. The first
>is a front page article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch titled "Biotech
>rivals team up in effort to sell altered food." The second article is from
>the San Francisco Chronicle titled "Biotech Products to Get an Image
>Booster."
>
>The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods is preparing to spend
>over $50,000 in April to print up 250,000 of our full color  "Take Action
>Packets." So the biotech industry is spending nearly 1,000 times more than
>we are. However, The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods has a
>powerful secret weapon that the biotech industry lacks: the active
>participation of thousands of grassroots activists.
>
>This is a classic David and Goliath story. Just as David beat the powerful
>Goliath, we intend to get genetically engineered foods labeled over the
>continued objections of the biotech industry. The Campaign's goal is to
>generate at least ONE MILLION LETTERS TO CONGRESS over the next seven
months
>in support of the Genetically Engineered Food Right to Know Act.
>
>Although we can't afford television ads, traffic continues to increase at
>The Campaign's popular web site. As a matter of fact, our internet service
>provider just increased our monthly fee because we are generating so much
>traffic. But our most powerful tool in generating letters to Congress will
>be the "Take Action Packet." This full color 24-page magazine will contain
>an informative educational tutorial and five form letters addressed to the
>House of Representatives, the Senate, Vice-President Gore and Governor
Bush.
>
>We intend to raise the issue of genetically engineered foods to one of
>presidential politics in the coming elections. The television and newspaper
>ads of the biotech industry are likely to help us accomplish this goal.
When
>the biotech industry tried an advertising campaign in Europe a couple years
>ago, it backfired and increased public opposition to genetically engineered
>foods. We anticipate the same situation will develop in the United States.
>
>The Campaign's Take Action Packets are scheduled to begin shipping the
first
>of May. They will only cost 25 cents each and sell in lots of 100 for $25
>(price includes shipping). A copy of the Take Action Packet will be
>available for viewing on our web site after April 20th. You will be able to
>order the Take Action Packets directly from our web site by credit card on
>our secured server. Naturally you may also send your order by U.S. mail.
>
>Here we go folks: Grassroots activism by thousands of concerned citizens on
>a shoestring budget vs. a multi-million dollar advertising campaign by the
>world's leading biotech companies. We will win this battle if we all do our
>part in generating the letters to our elected officials during the next
>seven months.
>
>Craig Winters
>Executive Director
>The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods
>
>The Campaign
>PO Box 55699
>Seattle, WA 98155
>Tel: 425-771-4049
>Fax: 603-825-5841
>E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Web Site: http://www.thecampaign.org
>
>Mission Statement: "To create a national grassroots consumer campaign for
>the purpose of lobbying Congress and the President to pass legislation that
>will require the labeling of genetically engineered foods in the United
>States."
>
>***
>
>Posted: Tuesday, April 4, 2000.
>St. Louis Post Dispatch
>Front Page  - A section
>
>Biotech rivals team up in effort to sell altered food
>
>By Bill Lambrecht
>Post-Dispatch Washington Bureau
>
>WASHINGTON - Monsanto Co. and its biotechnology rivals began a $50 million
>campaign Monday to sell Americans on the benefits of genetically modified
>food.
>
>With television and print ads along with a Web site and toll-free number,
>the newly formed Council for Biotechnology Information is seeking to raise
>awareness and reduce worry at a critical juncture for a powerful new
>technology.
>
>The council says it may spend as much as $250 million on the campaign over
>the next five years toward shaping opinion in the United States and Canada.
>
>Monsanto spokesman Jeff Bergau said the campaign is designed to tell
>consumers something they don't know a lot about.
>
>"From the conve

[CTRL] OT: 35 reasons not to vote for Al Gore (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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From:

http://www.anxietycenter.com/gore35.htm

35 REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR AL GORE, JR.

1. Gore thinks "human civilization is now the dominant cause of
change in the global environment." Nevermind the sun, the oceans,
volcanoes, and other natural phenomena that actually do control
the environment.

2. Gore believes that "industrial civilization" is engaged in a
"terrible onslaught against the natural world." Of course,
without industrial civilization, we'd all be riding horses and
growing our own food. Forget about cars, computers, air
conditioning, television, telephones, plastic, pharmaceuticals,
et cetera.

3. Gore’s "strategic goal" is to "eliminate the internal
combustion engine" by the year 2020. This particular kind of
engine can be found in automobiles, trucks, vans, and a whole
host of labor saving devices.

4. Gore believes that the "cumulative impact" of automobiles "is
posing a mortal threat to the security of every nation more
deadly than that of any military enemy we are ever again likely
to confront."

5. Caught making campaign finance calls from the White House,
something that is against the law, Gore declared that there was
"no controlling legal authority" regarding this improper
behavior. Like any longtime legislator, he knew federal law
prohibits soliciting campaign funds in a federal building.

6. Gore favored a government crackdown on the tiny trickle of
electricity used by devices like television sets, whether they
are on or not, because it results in a steady emission of carbon
dioxide. All his talk of greenhouse gases and global warming
ignores the fact that 95% percent of all carbon dioxide produced
annually comes from the evaporation of water from the oceans,
decaying organic matter, and the respiration of human beings and
animals.

7. In October 1997, Gore told television weathermen gathered at
the White House that global warming could be eliminated if the
over-population of Third World nations could be controlled. This
is a kind of Final Solution approach. The entire population of
the world could live in Texas. Populations in industrialized,
prosperous nations have steadily decreased.

8. Gore was responsible in having Timothy Wirth named
Undersecretary of State. Wirth is on record saying, "Even if the
theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global
warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we are
doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and
environmental policy." Since there is no global warming (the
earth hasn't warmed in over 50 years), this is a justification
for a bad policy based on bad science. Wirth now administers Ted
Turner's billion-dollar gift to the United Nations.

9. Gore has pushed hard to make environmentalism the basis for
our foreign policy. He called it "a turning point in US foreign
policy." A turn for the worse since national security and the
advancement of our economic growth is widely regarded as a sound
basis for foreign policy.

10. While the economy of Japan remains stagnant, Gore advised
them in 1997 to agree to "limit carbon monoxide and other
greenhouse gases" by supporting the much-disputed UN Treaty on
Climate Control. This treaty exempts nations that include China
and India. The US Senate is on record saying it will never
approve it.

11. Gore attended an April 29, 1996 campaign fundraising event at
the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple in Hacienda Heights, California and
then called it "a community outreach" program. Three months
earlier, his own staff had told him it was a fundraiser.

12. During his Democratic nomination speech, Gore told of his
grief over the death of his sister caused by her having smoked
cigarettes. He neglected to mention that his family's fortune had
been based on raising tobacco in Tennessee and that the family
farm continued to do so for years after her death or that he
continued to accept tobacco industry political action committee
money through his re-election as Senator in l990.

13. Gore once told reporters that Eric Segal's novel, "Love
Story", was based on the romance between himself and his wife
Tipper. When Segal said this was nonsense, he disclaimed his
statement calling it "a miscommunication."

14. Gore has compared the "struggle to save the environment" to
"the struggle to vanquish Hitler" adding that this time "the war
is with ourselves." Apparently, the entire human race is now the
enemy.

15. Gore advocates that the United Nations consider "the idea of
establishing a Stewardship Council to deal with matters relating
to the global environment." In other words, give the UN total
control over the actions and decisions of sovereign nations
worldwide. Meanwhile, the UN already has a plan for "global
governance" complete with the ability to tax nations, set up its
own permanent army, and now has an international court which can
indict and convict American citizens.

16. Gore has written that the "deforestation of Haiti, p

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

[David Sutherland]

Hmmm  tuff 
question (ggg)
 
However! 
 
The good book does 
tell us that the lord is able to open the mouth of an ass - perhaps with quantum 
evolution, and quantum consciousness, mankind one day will ascend to the humble 
ass   
 
 
NUMBERS 
22
 
22 ¶ And God’s anger 
was kindled because he went: and the angel of the LORD stood in the way for an 
adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were 
with him.
23  And the ass 
saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: 
and the ass turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam 
smote the ass, to turn her into the way.
24  But the 
angel of the LORD stood in a path of the vineyards, a wall being on this side, 
and a wall on that side.
25  And when the 
ass saw the angel of the LORD, she thrust herself unto the wall, and crushed 
Balaam’s foot against the wall: and he smote her again.
26  And the 
angel of the LORD went further, and stood in a narrow place, where was no way to 
turn either to the right hand or to the left.
27  And when the 
ass saw the angel of the LORD, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam’s anger 
was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff.
28  And the LORD 
opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto 
thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
29  And Balaam 
said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in 
mine hand, for now would I kill thee.
30  And the ass 
said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I 
was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay. 
{upon…: Heb. who hast ridden upon me} {ever since…: or, ever since thou wast, 
etc}
31  Then the 
LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the 
way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat 
on his face. {fell…: or, bowed himself}
32  And the 
angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these 
three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse 
before me: {to…: Heb. to be an adversary unto thee}
33  And the ass 
saw me, and turned from me these three times: unless she had turned from me, 
surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.
34  And Balaam 
said unto the angel of the LORD, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou 
stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get 
me back again. {displease…: Heb. be evil in thine eyes}
35  And the 
angel of the LORD said unto Balaam, Go with the men: but only the word that I 
shall speak unto thee, that thou shalt speak. So Balaam went with the princes of 
Balak.
 
 
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From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST 
JEWS (fwd)
> -Caveat Lector-   >  -Cui Bono?-> > 
COULD the Almighty speak to humanity through a human being?> FWP.> 
> The worship of a human as a deity IS NOT JEWISH. That's> >the 
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Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus

[David Sutherland]

   
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How ya doin' - had no 
idea you were on this list - as WELL!!!
 
 

 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Tara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:36 
PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE 
Jesus
> -Caveat Lector-   >  -Cui Bono?-> > 
I think that this is the only time I've ever disagreed with you Bill. But 
I> have to say ON THE MONEY, David! (And nice to see you again!> 
> @(*o*)@> > Tara> > -Original 
Message-> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On> Behalf Of David Sutherland> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 
2000 11:17 PM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus> > 
> BUUURP!!!> > This entire piece is a pile of 
contradictory twaddle!> > Perhaps old darkness - rather than any 
"new light".> > Jesus, from all accounts, was not an "extremist" - 
rather He "ate and drank"> with "sinners" and Pharisee's alike.> 
> It was the religionist "scholars" and "rabbis" of the day that were 
that> were the "extremists"!> > The notion of the 
"messiahs" suffering and death was prophesied centuries> before the birth 
of Christ - it was NOT a "new" paradigm that merely popped> up in Jesus 
day.> > The attempt to "link" Jesus with some Esoteric, or 
Know-Nothing-Gnostic> sect, Essenes, and et al, or Eastern foolosophy has 
been engaged in for> centuries by self-proclaimed gurus, swamis, priests, 
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Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus

[tenebroust]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Some of what you say is indeed correct.  There are players and motivations and dogmas 
that have to be supported or shattered depending on where you stand on any issue.  
This guy may never have even existed as a person, which is also a possibility for 
Jesus himself (IMO, there is scant non-Biblical historical evidence for his being a 
real person, and absolutely NONE that he was in any way supernatural or a UNIQUE Son 
of God, these things being matters of FAITH and all).  Still having someone close in 
time to Jesus, and saying some of the same things in similar terminology, AND having 
an association with the Essenes is new to me.  Perhaps your level of scholarship 
supercedes mine, which is a distinct possibility.  It depends on ones motivation and 
beliefs whether one reacts one way or another to such scholarship.  I am of the 
opinion that no matter what is said, if it illuminates something that has been in 
darkness it is a good thing.  Those who are strong in faith will not be troubled by 
this, those who have none will probably think it further proves their point, and those 
on the line will have more to think about.



On Tue, 04 April 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

>
> BUUURP!!!
>
> This entire piece is a pile of contradictory twaddle!
>
> Perhaps old darkness - rather than any "new light".
>
> Jesus, from all accounts, was not an "extremist" - rather He "ate and drank" with 
>"sinners" and Pharisee's alike.
>
> It was the religionist "scholars" and "rabbis" of the day that were that were the 
>"extremists"!
>
> The notion of the "messiahs" suffering and death was prophesied centuries before the 
>birth of Christ - it was NOT a "new" paradigm that merely popped up in Jesus day.
>
> The attempt to "link" Jesus with some Esoteric, or Know-Nothing-Gnostic sect, 
>Essenes, and et al, or Eastern foolosophy has been engaged in for centuries by 
>self-proclaimed gurus, swamis, priests, and cranks masquerading as "scholars".
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "tenebroust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> >  -Cui Bono?-
> >
> > I really like it when things like this come to light, because it causes people to 
>question what they have been taught for years and to question the strength of their 
>own beliefs.  There are many possible interpretations that could come from this work, 
>only one of which was explored by the scholar who wrote the book referenced in the 
>e-mail below.  It certainly sheds new light on those times, and that place in 
>history.  Where light is shed darkness and ignorance flees, this is a good thing.  No?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 04 April 2000, William Shannon wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> > >  -Cui Bono?-
> > >
> > > WIRE:04/01/2000 21:06:00 ET
> > > FEATURE-Was unknown messiah role model for Jesus?
> > >
> > >  JERUSALEM, April 2 (Reuters) - An ancient Jewish messiah  named Menachem may
> > > have been a hitherto unknown role model for  Jesus Christ, according to an
> > > Israeli researcher.
> > > Israel Knohl, head of the Bible Department at Jerusalem's  Hebrew University,
> > > explains his theory in his book, "The  Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering
> > > Servant of the Dead Sea  Scrolls."
> > >
> > > The book stems from three years of research based on the  "Thanksgiving
> > > scroll," which Knohl says was written by  Menachem, leader of a first century
> > > extremist Jewish sect.
> > >
> > > It was one of seven scrolls and some 800 manuscripts found  hidden in jars in
> > > caves close to the Dead Sea in the 1940s and  1950s.
> > >
> > > The scroll is damaged and Knohl believes that Menachem's  ideas were so
> > > explosive that "someone, at some time" tried to  ruin it.
> > >
> > > "I see here a mystery. If they wanted to preserve (the  scroll) by putting it
> > > in the jar, why should someone squeeze it,  disfigure it?" Knohl asked a
> > > recent theological conference.
> > >
> > > He said a closer look at Menachem could change the way Jesus  has been seen
> > > for centuries.
> > >
> > > "Menachem saw himself as a suffering servant of God but  also a divine
> > > messiah and son of man, concepts which scholars  say did not coexist before
> > > Jesus," he said.
> > >
> > > "I say Jesus knew about Menachem. When Jesus came to the  game there was
> > > already a theology that the messiah should  suffer, be killed and come to
> > > life again."
> > >
> > > The theory strikes a blow at traditional scholarship that  has cast Jesus as
> > > a preacher who was moulded into a messianic  figure by followers only after
> > > his death.
> > >
> > > JESUS EMBODIED AN OLDER CONCEPT
> > >
> > > "The main group of New Testament scholars tend to say there  was no concept
> > > of a suffering messiah in Judaism -- only a  triumph

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

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COULD the Almighty speak to humanity through a human being?
FWP.

The worship of a human as a deity IS NOT JEWISH. That's
>the clue Poley.

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[CTRL] Listening to terror at end of a phone

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http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/04/06/timfgnafr01005.html

April 6 2000   AFRICA





  Janine di Giovanni in Victory
Block, Zimbabwe

   Listening to terror at end of a phone


 THE voice of the elderly farmer
 was shaking with terror. "Can
 you hear them beating at the
 door? Can you hear their drums?
 They're calling for me to come
 out. They've got sticks and golf
 clubs . . .

 "They keep calling, but I'm not
 going . . . if I go, they'll
 manhandle me." The frightened
 man was interrupted by the
 sound of loud voices and
 pounding and, in the distance,
 rhythmic drumming.

 Then the cracking sound of
 something being knocked over.
 "Now they're breaking down the
 door," he croaked. "I have got to
 go . . . I'm going back to lock
 myself in the kitchen . . . I'm
 getting scared."

 Then JJ Hammond, 67, a white
 farmer who has been held
 hostage by an angry mob of
 pro-Mugabe Zanu-PF supporters
 demanding to take over his land,
 rushed to barricade himself and
 his wife Marge, 51, in their
 kitchen. His only protection
 against the mob was kitchen
 utensils.

 Since Monday night, when Mr
 Hammond and his family hosted
 a dinner party at his tobacco
 farm, Chidikhamwezi, he, along
 with his wife, and his black farm
 labourers, have been held hostage
 by the large mob who call
 themselves "veterans" of the
 independence war.

 Shortly before dawn on Tuesday,
 negotiators - white farmers who
 speak Shona, the tribal dialect -
 managed to get the shocked
 dinner guests released, leaving
 the Hammonds and their workers
 alone to stave off the crowd.

 The roads near the farm have
 been blocked; no one is allowed
 in or out. Mr Hammond, who has
 farmed this land for years and is
 known locally as a "tough
 character" has barely slept.
 Instead, he has paced the floors
 of his farmhouse, moving from
 room to room and drawing back
 curtains to look out of the
 windows. He finally decided the
 safest place was the sturdy
 kitchen.

 According to Neil Hammond, one
 of JJ's four sons, who also lives
 on the compound: "They are
 banging on doors threatening to
 kill - it's bloody terrifying."

 Yesterday afternoon, as the
 intruders began to break down
 the kitchen door, Mr Hammond
 and his wife retreated to the
 bedroom, barricading that door
 behind them. The mob took only
 minutes to break that down and
 drag Mr Hammond out. He was
 rescued by another white farmer.
 As night fell, he was back indoors
 with his wife, doors reinforced.
 They have food for a few days,
 but no electricity, water or
 telephone. The veterans have cut
 them all.

 As the siege reached its 48th
 hour, the Hammonds are refusing
 to budge. "We're scared but
 there's no way we're leaving,"
 Neil Hammond says. "This is my
 farm, this is my family and I'm
 staying."


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[CTRL] An Army of Gun Lies

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from elsewhere ...

An Army of Gun Lies
How the other side plays.

  By Dave Kopel
  Mr. Kopel is research director of the Independence Institute, a
  free-market think tank in Colorado.

  Antigun advocates have always faced an uphill
  battle in this country. Americans have, to begin with,
  a constitutional right to gun ownership. Today, half
  of American households exercise this right, owning a
  total of about 250 million guns; and over 99 percent
  of those households do so in a responsible manner.
  To fight for major restrictions on an item that plays
  such a valued part in the lives of so many people
  looks like a nearly impossible task. So if you’re really
  committed to the effort, and you want to win, what
  do you do?

  Simple: You lie.

  A full listing of the lies told by the antigun lobby
  could fill a book. A short list of the more popular
  ones would have to begin with the canard about the
  number of children killed by firearms. We are told
  repeatedly that 13, or 15, or 17 children every day are
  killed by guns. This factoid is used to conjure up
  pictures of dozens of little kids dying in gun
  accidents every week.

  In truth, the number of fatal gun accidents is at its
  lowest level since 1903, when statistics started being
  kept. That’s right: Not only is the per capita accident
  rate at a record low, so is the actual number of
  accidents—even though the number of people and
  the number of guns are both much larger than in
  1903. The assertions about “X children per day” are
  based on counting older teenagers, or even people in
  their early twenties, as “children.” The claims are true
  only if you count a 19-year-old drug dealer who is
  shot by a competitor, or an 18-year-old armed robber
  who is shot by a policeman, as “a child killed by a
  gun.” As for actual children (14 years and under), the
  daily death rate is 2.6. For children ten and under, it’s
  0.4 per day—far lower than the number of children
  who are killed by automobiles, drowning, or many
  other causes.

  If the statistic about child gun deaths is the most
  notorious lie, one of the most frequent has to do with
  gun shows. All of the antigun groups repeat,
  incessantly, the phrase “gun-show loophole.” As a
  result, much of the public believes that gun shows are
  special zones exempt from ordinary gun laws.
  Handgun Control, Inc., the major antigun group, has
  an affiliate in Colorado that claims that the “vast
  majority” of guns used in crimes come from gun
  shows, while the Violence Policy Center calls gun
  shows “Tupperware parties for criminals.”

  This is all an audacious lie. First of all, the laws at gun
  shows are exactly the same as they are everywhere
  else. If a person is “engaged in the business” (as the
  law puts it) of selling firearms, then he must fill out a
  government registration form on every buyer, and get
  FBI permission (through the National Instant Check
  System) for every sale—regardless of whether the
  sale takes place at his gun store, at an office in his
  home, or at a gun show. Those who are not gun
  dealers by profession, but happen to be selling a gun,
  are not required to follow this procedure. To imply
  that gun dealers can go to an event called a “gun
  show” and thus avoid the law is absolutely false. Also
  false is the charge about Tupperware parties for
  criminals. According to a National Institute of Justice
  study released in December 1997, only 2 percent of
  guns used in crimes come from gun shows. The
  gun-show charge has great currency in the media, but
  it is not very important in itself. How about the more
  serious charge that guns are basically dangerous to
  society? Public-health experts and gun-control
  lobbyists will tell you that most murders, including
  those involving guns, take place among acquaintances
  and are perpetrated by ordinary people; these facts
  supposedly indicate that ordinary people are too
  hot-tempered to be allowed to have guns.

  The facts tell a different story: 75 percent of
  murderers have adult criminal records. As for the
  rest, a large number either have criminal convictions
  as juveniles or are still teenagers when they commit
  the murder; laws dealing with access to juvenile-crime
  records prevent full access to their rap sheets.
  Furthermore, the category of “acquaintance” murders
  is misleading. It includes drug buyers who kill a drug
  dealer to steal his stash, and thugs who assault each
  other in barroom brawls.

  There’s also a sad irony here. Domestic murders are
  almost always preceded by many incidents of violent
  abuse. If a domestic-violence victim flees the home,
  and her ex- husband tracks her down and tries to
  rape her, and she shoots him, the killing will be
  labeled a “tragic domestic homicide that was caused
  by a gun,” rather than what it legally is: justifiable use
  of deadly force against a

[CTRL] FW: ALERT: Magazines Paid To Spout Drug War Propaganda

[Dave]

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 -Cui Bono?-

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Subject: ALERT: Magazines Paid To Spout Drug War Propaganda


DrugSense FOCUS Alert # 167 April 5, 2000

Magazines Paid To Spout Drug War Propaganda

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DrugSense FOCUS Alert # 167 April 5, 2000

A few months ago, Salon.com published a story explaining how television
networks were getting paid federal money to insert government approved
anti-drug messages in their programming. The networks got the money as part
of the billion-dollar propaganda campaign organized by the Office of
National Drug Control Policy and the Partnership for a Drug-Free America.

Many were rightly shocked by this arrangement, but some argued that it
revolved around entertainment programming on television, where people don't
necessarily expect to find objective or accurate information. Daniel
Forbes, who wrote the original story for Salon, is back with another story
about how supposedly objective and serious magazines also got paid if the
ONDCP/PDFA liked the slant of their stories (The entire story of "The Drug
War Gravy Train" by Forbes can be read at
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n428/a04.html, below is a short
Associated Press report on the subject.)

Forbes identifies the following magazines as those that took money for
publishing propaganda approved by the ONDCP: US News & World Report, The
Sporting News, Family Circle, Seventeen, Parade and USA Weekend. While the
editors at the magazines deny that the payoffs impacted the stories
published in the magazines, evidence collected by Forbes suggests otherwise.

"Take the case of two magazines: Family Circle and Woman's Day, the latter
published by Hachette Filipacchi Magazines Inc.  To the average reader,
these books probably appear about as different as Tweedledum and
Tweedledee.  But appearances can be deceptive.  According to Hall's
Magazine Reports Inc., an industry research group, Family Circle ran a
hefty eight-and-a-half pages of anti-drug editorial matter in 1999.
Woman's Day, on the other hand, ran none, states Hall's research director,
Sandy Santora.  Family Circle was the recipient of a $1.4 million
drug-office ad buy, second only to Parade.  The Woman's Day buy? Zero."

Please write letters to some or all of the magazines that took the payments
expressing disappointment at their willingness to place ad revenues and
drug war orthodoxy over independence and objectivity.

Thanks for your effort and support.

 WRITE A LETTER TODAY

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ARTICLE

Pubdate: Sun, 02 Apr 2000
Source: Los Angeles Times (CA)
Copyright: 2000 Los Angeles Times
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Author: From Associated Press

6 MAGAZINES GIVEN ANTI-DRUG DISCOUNTS

WASHINGTON--The White House drug policy office offered financial incentives
to at least six magazines that ran stories discouraging drug use, an
arrangement similar to one with television networks.

The drug office and the publications say there were never any attempts to
influence the content of articles.  Under the deal with the networks, which
drew public attention earlier this year, programs that carried anti-drug
messages could be exempted from requirements to run anti-drug ads.

Stephen G.  Smith, editor of U.S.  News & World Report, one of the six
named in a report by the online magazine Salon, told Associated Press that
people on the editorial side were "utterly ignorant of any kind of
arrangement or even the hint of any kind of arrang

[CTRL] THE ENIGMA CHANNEL OPENS MESSAGE BOARD FOR UFO RESEARCHERS

[Nicola Molloy]

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From: Christopher Everard, THE ENIGMA CHANNEL

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[CTRL] [BCPolitics] Biowar Testing Over Canada...Again? (fwd)

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Subject: [BCPolitics] Biowar Testing Over Canada...Again?

Super! I look forward to it. I think it is in "Clouds of Secrecy" by
Professor Cole (Intro by Senator Cranston) that we are told about the
surreptitious release of microbes on US cities AND CANADA
(Winnipeg). Later there were law suits because some innocent citizens were
infected and died. I don't know the final result of all that litigation.
With friends like these guys who needs enemies?
FWP.

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Subject: [BCPolitics] Planetarium Lecture by William

He will be on with me on
Rogers
on April 7th
at 9AM live with a rebroadcast at 1 PM and 11 PM

david

.Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:50:48 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Planetarium Lecture by William Thomas


UFO*BC and The Millenium Project present:

Upcoming Feature Presentation In Vancouver On April 8

  "What's Wrong With Our Skies"
  Journalist Alleges Biowarfare Testing Over Canada, US and Europe

Award-winning investigative journalist William Thomas will present
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into the current pandemic of autoimmune and related ailments in a
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Pacific Space Centre / H. R. MacMillan Planetarium, on April 8 in
Vancouver, BC.

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Re: [CTRL] Keep the Heat On (Progressive Populist 4/15/00)

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4/5/00

Progressive, Populist, Liberal. An idiot by any other name would
still smell.

These people are mostly responsible for the state of the world.
These are the evil morons who continually elect the lesser of the two
evils which are most responsible for wars, and environmental degradation.

They are good hearted war mongers who backed the attacks on a sovereign
nation because they were too stupid to recognize propaganda when they
are being manipulated by it. They supported the break up of Yugoslavia,
and the destruction of Kosovo.

They elected the last two governments of the USA, the most corrupt
administrations of the 20th century. They elected Brit Labor. They believe that
they are nice folks but they are not. The road to hell is paved with their good
intentions.

As if there is a real difference between Al Gore and Bush. As if Ralph Nader
will dismantle Capitalism rather than just tweak it as all good progressives
try to do to ease their conscience about an economic system which they benefit
from, but is killing so many others, and is the main destroyer of the worlds
forests.

Take their advice. Vote for DemocRATS the other Big Business Party.

Evil selfish cowards.

Joshua2

> J Cullen wrote:
>
> THE PROGRESSIVE POPULIST:
> A JOURNAL FROM THE HEARTLAND
> April 15, 2000 -- Volume 6, Number 7
> 
> http://www.populist.com/00.7.edit.html
> 
>
> EDITORIAL
> Keep the Heat On
>
> Many of our friends voted for Al Gore in the Democratic primary and are
> celebrating his early clinching of the nomination. Bill Bradley attracted
> some worthy progressive supporters to his campaign but he never generated
> a groundswell of popular support.
>Perhaps, as Molly Ivins suggests, Bradley lost because he has no Elvis
> in him, but Democratic voters also saw no compelling reason to dump the
> vice president when Bradley was only marginally more progressive. Neither
> of the Democratic candidates varied from the ³free trade² position of
> their corporate sponsors, nor did the Republicans.
>Now we have nearly nine months left before the general election with a
> race between Vice President Gore and Texas Gov. George W. Bush that Jim
> Hightower has characterized as ³Dull vs. Dullard.²
>Both nominees-apparent immediately made claims on the reform mantles of
> Bradley and McCain, but neither Gore nor Bush have much credibility in
> that new area of interest.
>Gore, of course, participated in the 1996 Democratic campaign that
> broke new ground in the use and abuse of hard and soft money. He narrowly
> avoided having an independent prosecutor attached to his tail as a result.
> But at least he appears to be embarrassed by the necessity of constant
> fundraising and he might sign a bill providing for reforms of the current
> corrupt system if one ever got through Congress.
>Bush, who has been spending other people¹s money his entire life and
> already has raised a record $74 million for this race, thinks ³reform²
> means making it harder for injured people to win lawsuits against
> businesses. Bush has made it clear that he would not support McCain¹s
> proposed limits on soft money contributions to political parties, which
> favor the GOP. Nor would Bush support any reforms that would reduce the
> fundraising advantage that the Republican Party holds, or make political
> action committees accountable for their attack ads, such as the series his
> Texas sponsors, the Wyly brothers, spent $2.5 million on to smear John
> McCain prior to the Super Tuesday primaries.
>Bush follows the lead of Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott and Senator
> Mitch McConnell, the leading Republican defenders of the corrupt campaign
> finance status quo  who showed their contempt for campaign finance
> regulations by insisting that President Clinton appoint Bradley Smith, who
> opposes the nation¹s campaign finance laws and believes they should be
> repealed, to serve as a Republican Commissioner on the Federal Election
> Commission (FEC). Clinton reportedly went along with Smith¹s appointment
> in part to get Senate action on some of his judicial appointments that
> have been held up for years, but reform organizations such as Common
> Cause, Democracy 21, and the Brennan Center for Justice are pushing the
> Senate Rules Committee to hold full hearings on the nomination, and to
> allow outside groups to testify.
>
> Ralph Nader¹s campaign is a positive form of progressive populism that
> should be encouraged. Read his announcement speech on page 13; then ask
> yourself if you agree more with Nader or Gore. Even if you can¹t bring
> yourself to vote for someone other than the Democratic nominee, you should
> recognize that Nader¹s Blue-Green insurgency could help progressive
> Democrats by at least giving them a recourse from the pa

[CTRL] [Fwd: Village Voice: Are You Backing the Slave Trade?]

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Subject: Village Voice: Are You Backing the Slave Trade?
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:46:16 -0500 (CDT)
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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0012/hentoff.shtml

   NAT HENTOFF

   Hillary: Help Free the Slaves

   Quiet as it's been kept in much of the press and all of the
   television news, so far as I know a new divestment campaign is
   gathering momentum. It targets American pension and mutual funds and
   cities that invest in a huge oil company, Talisman Energy, that is a
   partner of the National Islamic Front, the government of Sudan.

   This authoritarian government, based in the north of the country,
   encourages slave raiders to invade black Christian and animist
   villages in the south. Many of the men are killed. Women and girls are
   abducted to become concubines and house slaves, bought by owners in
   the north. The kidnapped boys are forced into the Muslim faith.

   The driving force in the Talisman Energy divestment campaign is the
   Boston-based [11]American Anti-Slavery Group, headed by Dr. Charles
   Jacobs. He is trying to achieve what Randall Robinson, Jesse Jackson,
   and others did during the 1980s in their divestment campaign against
   American companies and cities investing in apartheid South Africa.

   This time, the focus is on Canada's largest independent oil and gas
   company, which is also one of the biggest oil firms in the world. As
   Charles Jacobs points out, "Talisman Energy has invested hundreds of
   millions of dollars" in a huge Sudanese government oil project. It
   involves drilling for oil and a pipeline vital to the economy of the
   north.

   New York City comptroller Alan Hevesi has written to James Buckee,
   president of Talisman, noting that this city's pension funds include
   135,000 sharesworth between $4 million and $6 millionof Talisman
   Energy common stock. Hevesi has not yet moved to recommend divestment,
   but he is very concerned, as he wrote in that letter, about reports
   that "Talisman is a source of vital fuel to a Sudanese air force base
   for bombing missions."

   The missions are fueled by the government's "economic interests,"
   Hevesi added, "in the removal of indigenous people [black Christians
   and animists] from lands in which the country's richest oil fields are
   located."

   Hevesi has also written letters to the Coca-Cola and Pepsi companies,
   in which this city's pension funds are also invested. Hevesi asked
   them to stop buying one of their soft-drink ingredientsgum arabicfrom
   suppliers in Sudan.

   Charlie Gillis, a reporter for the National Post of Canada, wrote on
   November 29 of a demonstration by black Christians "who had been
   driven out of southern Sudan's oil fields by the continuing assault on
   them by the government in Khartoum and its army."

   Already, because of these raids and the massive slavery resulting from
   them, the Texas Teachers Retirement Fund has sold all of its 100,000
   sharesworth several million dollarsin Talisman Energy.

   Then, after pressure from college student groups, the world's largest
   pension fund, [12]TIAA-CREFwhich covers college professors and
   administrators, along with school teachershas divested from Talisman.
   That move involved approximately 302,000 shares, worth about $9
   million.

   Most recently, on January 27, the state of New Jersey revealed that it
   has sold all of its 680,000 shares of Talisman, worth some $20
   million.

   As Jacobs emphasizes, "many Americans are unknowingly supporting
   slavery and slaughter in Sudan because their mutual and pension funds
   contain Talisman stock. If, for example, you own Fidelity or Vanguard
   [managers of mutual funds], or if you are a New York City worker, you
   may be helping someone own a slave."

   Now Hillary Clinton has finally officially declared her candidacy for
   the United States Senate. Jacobs says:

   "Bill Clinton has been silent on Sudan. What will Hillary say about
   New York's 'slave-stocks'? February was Black History Month, but black
   slavery is not only past history. Surely, reporters will ask Hillary
   Clinton if New York City and the state should sell their stock in
   slaves. It does take a village to raise a child, but what if the
   village children have been taken away as slaves?"

   Will someone in the horde of reporters trailing Hillary ask her that
   question?

   Last September, Charles Jacobs met with Madeleine Albright in the
   State Department. He said to the secretary of state:

   "Madame Secretary, 60 years ago, people in power met in rooms like
   this and decided not to tell the world of mass murderand decided not
   to save the victims. Why is there such unspoken genocide in Sudan?"

   Albright turned to her legal adviser and said, "Explain to Dr. Jacobs
   why we 

[CTRL] Fwd: MIND CONTROL TRICKERY

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Subject: Re: Mind Control Mayhem :Tucson, AZ (1998)
Date: 04/06/2000
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Sounds like a mind control victim to me.

Why is it that all these "schizophrenics" complain about being controlled by 
"satellites" or a "microchip in the brain" when this is patently untrue??  In truth, 
these people ARE being mind controlled, it's just that they are deceived into thinking 
the mind control emissions emanate from "satellites" or "microchips".  This is a 
commonly used ploy by the intelligence operatives to confuse the mind control victim 
(and make them appear mad to others) and to prevent the subject from suspecting the 
operatives are really operating nearby. Audio "hallucinations" providing a running 
commentary on the subject's thoughts and behaviour implies that the mind control 
operatives must be CLOSE TO THE SUBJECT and that they have line of sight.  If the 
victim complains of "satellites" or "microchips in the brain" then this is just a 
deliberate DECEPTION on the part of mind control operatives to prevent the subject 
from discovering the real source of the mind control emissions.

Experience has shown that whenever a "schizophrenic" specifically complains about 
"satellites" or "microchips" controlling his brain, then this is a clear cut mind 
control case where the subject has been deliberately duped by the responsible 
operatives.  Mind control operatives the world over are trained in more or less the 
same tactics...


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> Once again, a victim of mind control is labeled "mentally ill" !
>
> =
>
No, once again a paranoid schizophrenic goes untreated with tragic consequences.

> Shooting Spree Suspect Says "Transmitter" Controls Her
>
> Associated Press - The Yuma Daily Sun, May 24, 1998
>
> TUCSON - The 35 year old woman accused of going on a shooting rampage here said
> she did it because there is a transmitter in her ear and "people on satellites"
> told her to kill, a newspaper reported Saturday. Gracie M. Verduzco is charged
> with first degree murder and four counts of attempted murder in connection with
> a shooting rampage Thursday that left one man dead and four wounded. She has a
> history of mental illness

}Sounds like severe schizophrenia to me.

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[CTRL] [yugoslavia-discuss] Momcilo Krajisnik (fwd)

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http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2000/p00-036e.htm

Statement by NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson, on actions by SFOR to
detain persons indicted for war crimes

At 03:17 this morning, 3 April 2000, SFOR detained Momcilo Krajisnik, who was
under a sealed indictment by the International Criminal Tribunal for
Yugoslavia (ICTY) for war crimes. He is now being processed for transfer to
The Hague.

Momcilo Krajisnik is under a sealed indictment for war crimes. Between July
1, 1991 and December 31, 1992, Bosnian Serb forces, under the direction and
control of Krajisnik, then a leading member of the Serbian Democratic Party
of Bosnia and Herzegovina, secured control of several municipalities which
had been proclaimed part of the Serbian Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
He is accused of genocide, crimes against humanity, violations of the laws
and customs of war, and grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, including
murder, wilful killing, extermination, complicity in genocide, deportation,
and inhumane acts.

This arrest -- the sixth since I became Secretary General -- represents the
capture by SFOR of the highest ranking person indicted for war crimes in the
former Yugoslavia thus far. It is good news for justice, and good news for
the people of Bosnia and Herzegovina. To those individuals who remain at
large I will repeat what I have said many times before: The net is closing.
It is time to turn yourselves in.

When the people of Bosnia and Herzegovina go to the polls for municipal
elections in just five days time, they should turn away from the failed
politics of ethnic hatred and vote for a new future as part of a democratic
and tolerant Europe. And they can do so with the knowledge that the
international community is with them, justice is being done, and a brighter
future for Bosnia and Herzegovina is theirs for the taking at the ballot box.

This action was undertaken in accordance with SFOR's mandate that authorizes
detention operations for such persons. It was within the mandate given to
SFOR by the North Atlantic Council under authority contained in the relevant
United Nations Security Council Resolution.

The parties to the Dayton Peace Agreement remain responsible for cooperating
in the investigation and prosecution of war crimes and other violations of
international/humanitarian law. SFOR will continue to do its part by carrying
out its mandate in a firm and even-handed manner.

SACEUR, as overall commander for SFOR, has kept me fully informed of this. I
should like to commend the SFOR troops and their commanders for their
courage, professionalism and dedication in carrying out this action, which
will contribute to the continued consolidation of the peace in Bosnia and
Herzegovina.


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[CTRL] Two Nuns Indicted in Fundraising Case (fwd)

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Currently a Drudge headline at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/2405/aponline152710_00
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Nuns Indicted in Fundraising Case
By Michael J. Sniffen
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, April 5, 2000; 3:27 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON –– Two Buddhist nuns were indicted Wednesday for
failing to appear as government witnesses at last month's trial
in which Democratic party fund-raiser Maria Hsia was convicted
for arranging more than $100,000 in illegal donations during the
1996 presidential campaign.

Justice Department spokesman John Russell said the pair,
Venerables Yi Chu and Man Ho, fled the country after being given
immunity for their testimony and are believed to be in Taiwan.

A federal grand jury here charged them with contempt of court for
failing to appear. In January, a judge had refused their bid to
quash the subpoenas, originally issued in May 1998. The
indictments brought to 24 the number of people charged by the
department's campaign finance task force.

The two nuns were to testify about one of the most well-known
elements of the Hsia case – an April 29, 1996, event at their
temple in Hacienda Heights, Calif.

Vice President Al Gore, then running for re-election with
President Clinton, attended but says he didn't know it was a
fund-raising event. On various occasions, he has said he thought
it was community outreach, finance-related and donor maintenance.

Gore's role in that event has continued to dog his presidential
campaign this year.

Hsia was convicted of five counts of causing false statements to
be made to the Federal Election Commission in a scheme the
Justice Department said was designed to conceal the true source
of illegal donations through the use of "straw" donors.

Prosecutors alleged that Hsia tapped the Buddhist temple in
California and some of her well-to-do business clients for money
to reimburse straw donors who were listed as the contributors in
campaign records. According to evidence presented in the case,
$109,000 in reimbursed donations went to Clinton-Gore '96, the
Democratic Party and the campaign of Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I.

Video footage was played at the trial showing the vice president
attending the temple event.

At the trial, former Democratic Party fund-raiser John Huang, the
central figure in the campaign fund-raising scandal, testified
that Hsia handed him an envelope containing $100,000 the day
after he and Hsia discussed the fact that the event hadn't raised
much money, despite Gore's appearance. Much of the money was
illegally reimbursed from temple funds.

Witnesses testified that Hsia got five blank checks from the
Buddhist temple and reimbursed five donors, including herself, in
connection with a temple fund-raiser that Kennedy attended.

Hsia's lawyers said there was no evidence that Hsia was aware of
the reimbursements from the Gore fund-raiser, but prosecutors
introduced canceled checks suggesting that on three instances
from 1993 to 1996 Hsia used temple funds to reimburse her own
political donations.

Hsia did not testify at the trial, but her lawyers said the money
was for public relations work Hsia had done for the temple.

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[CTRL] Are the United States and China on a collision course?

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Are the United States and China on a collision course?


  By FRANK J. GAFFNEY, JR.

  March Issue, Vol. 148, No. 3

  The single-most important strategic question of the
  coming decade is likely to be: Is Communist China
  determined to harm the United States or its vital interests?
  The second-most important question is: If so, can conflict
  between our nations be avoided on terms that are
  consistent with the American people's security and
  liberties?

  Before examining these important issues, consider this
  observation about forecasts: There are few inevitabilities
  in the course of human conduct. Decisions taken - or not
  taken - at various points along the road can and do shape
  history. In hindsight, events may appear to be inevitable.
  But they rarely are.

  The trouble is that, when living through a transitional
  period, we often are unaware of the turning points, of the
  choices being made. For example, take the period that led
  up to World War II.

  Today we can clearly see evidence that the Nazis and
  Japanese were pursuing courses that would bring them
  into conflict with the United States and other Western
  democracies. We can also see the missed opportunities
  during the 1930s when different policies on the part of
  this country, Britain and France might have spared the
  world the conflagration that followed.

  Yet at the time, the democracies were lulled into inaction
  by the seductive appeal of those who claimed that
  engaging with the thugs running Germany and Japan on
  their terms - a practice that came to be known as
  "appeasement" - would spare the West the tragic costs of
  another conflict.

  This approach was tried again and again in the face of
  what proved to be insatiable demands by members of the
  fascist Axis. Feeding the tiger only made it come back for
  more. Despite the fact that Great Britain and Nazi
  Germany were each other's largest trading partners, the
  war came when it suited Hitler.

  What Beijing Wants. Unfortunately, I believe there is
  increasing evidence that a new conflict with an
  authoritarian regime is in prospect, this time with
  Communist China. As in the 1930s, this evidence is
  somewhat obscured by other information - what
  intelligence experts call "noise." Some of it is genuine.
  Some of it is misinformation.

  The difficulty of understanding which is greatly
  compounded by the efforts of those, like their
  counterparts of 60 years ago, who tell us that
  engagement will prevent conflict, that expanding trade
  and accommodation of China's demands will ensure that
  peaceful relations between our two countries are preserved.

  In fact, trade and accommodation will not necessarily
  prevent conflict with the People's Republic of China any
  more than it caused Hitler to refrain from attacking
  Britain's allies and, in due course, England herself. China
  is, after all, not the United States' "strategic partner."

  As in the 1930s, we ignore evidence of a coming struggle
  with China at our peril. If anything will make that conflict
  inevitable, it will be our failure to address what the PRC is
  up to and the strategic implications of that behavior and
  policies that guide it for our vital interests and those of
  our allies in Asia.

  Ominous Trends. Consider the following illustrative list of
  China's ominous activities. Motivation and likely
  repercussions of these activities must be separate from
  the "noise" and addressed effectively.

  The PRC's ambitious military modernization program:
  The Communist Chinese are engaged in what Mao might
  have called a "Great Leap Forward" in the lethality and
  power projection capabilities of their armed forces. The
  purpose of this effort is clear to those guiding the PRC's
  People's Liberation Army: to neutralize (preferably without
  a war) and, if necessary, defeat what the PLA's political
  commissars constantly refer to as "the main enemy" - the
  United States.

  Importantly, this effort is guided by a strategy of Sun Tzu,
  ancient China's most famous warrior-philosopher. It is not
  meant to replicate America's mighty military. Rather, it is
  being guided by a desire to find "asymmetric" means of
  exploiting our vulnerabilities. These have been identified
  as including: the United States' dependence on space for
  communications, navigation and reconnaissance; the
  susceptibility of our advanced electronic equipment to
  devastating electromagnetic pulse weapons; the current
  inability of the U.S. Navy to stop the sort of supersonic,
  anti-ship missiles China is now acquiring from Russia;
  and the absence of American defenses against ballistic
  missiles.

  Particularly worrisome is the fact that China is acquiring
  the capability to exploit these vulnerabilities. Worse yet

Re: [CTRL] German Spies - ECHELON Exists

[Robert F. Tatman]

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 -Cui Bono?-

IIRC, although the parallels are not precise, the BND is the counterpart of
the CIA, while the VfS is approximately the equivalent of the FBI (i.e., a
*police* agency, not an intelligence agency as such). These are VERY rough
similarities, however--the German government is organized very differently
from the American.

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] German Spies - ECHELON Exists


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Unless I'm mistaken or there's been a recent organisational change, the
> German national intelligence agency is the Bundesnachrichtendienst (Bnd.)
> "Verfassungsschutz" can be translated as "protection of the constitution."
>
> Possibly there is a department within the Bnd for "protection
> of the constitution?
>
> Kris Millegan wrote:
>
> > Germany's national intelligence agency, Verfassungsschutz, openly warns
its
> > business and industry community against Echelon. Germany's intelligence
> > agencies do more than just warn against the spying, however.
> >
> > They also instruct German industry in how to protect themselves against
the
> > illegal espionage network. Since June 1999, the German intelligence
service
> > has been recommending German companies to encrypt all important
information,
> > i.e. encode it to prevent Echelon's spies from listening in.
> >
> > And the entire process is very open. Verfassungsschutz has issued its
> > warnings and protection guidelines as folders which they send to German
> > industry.
>

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[CTRL] Fw: New S&W Commemoratives

[K]

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I'm sure that by now Smith & Wesson has realized that it has
committed
a

serious faux paux with the gun owners of America, and will have to
rely on government contracts to avoid bankruptcy.  I'm sure that the
brilliant minds at Smith & Wesson are thinking of ways to increase
sales to federal agencies.  Perhaps they've considered the
commissioning of new commemorative firearms.  Some possibilities
include:

1.  The Lon Horiuchi Model 629 Commemorative .44 magnum.
This one
comes

with a scope with a range-finding feature: when a woman holding a
baby
just fills the two horizontal stadia wires in the scope, you know your
target

is
precisely 100 yards away.

2.  The Janet Reno Model 625 Commemorative .45 ACP.  This
model
includes

a "Bill of Rights" test target.  The unfluted cylinder is engraved
with scenes showing the burning Branch Davidian "compound" and
the
siege at Ruby Ridge.

3.  The Bill Clinton Model 617 Commemorative .22 LR.  This one
comes
in a zippered case which automatically unzips in the presence of
women.

4.  The Al Gore Commemorative Sigma .40 S&W.  This gun is
actually
made of wood and includes a special "sash" holster for carrying into
Buddhist

temples.

5.  The Hillary Clinton Commemorative Model 3906 in 9mm.  This
model
has a dime inlaid in each of the grips, which pop out in case the
user
feels a need to tip any single-mom waitresses. Comes in a carpet
bag
carrying case.

6.  The Vince Foster Model 36 Commemorative .38 "Chief's"
Special with
the "make it look like suicide barrel" that, when used to shoot
someone in neck, makes it look like they placed the barrel in their
mouth.  This "suicide

special" was especially made by S&W using 100% recycled parts
salvaged
from Spanish S&W knockoffs originally manufactured between
1900 and
1920. Thus it is also "Earth friendly" and comes with an official US
Department of Energy green "Energy Star" sticker.





--
Kathleen

To be a patriot, one had to say, and keep
on saying, 'Our Country, right or wrong,'
and urge on the little war. Have you not
perceived that that phrase is an insult
to the nation? -Mark Twain

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[CTRL] NYP: CLINTON WILL NORMALIZE RELATIONS WITH CUBA (fwd)

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DUNLEAVY: CLINTON WILL NORMALIZE RELATIONS WITH CUBA

by Steve Dunleavy
April 5, 2000


VIDAL Francisco Vidal Blanca could see the future instantly the
moment he realized he would be locked up forever if he stayed in
Cuba one more minute.

"I was on the plane in November 1959, and people were getting
executed," he said yesterday.

Back then, he was in danger of imprisonment because he was
interested in making an honest living.

He took a look into a crystal ball, and that got him the hell
out. He left Cuba to become a giant among interior designers for
hotels in Miami, despite the fact he arrived flat broke.

As in nada. No dinero.

"I walked six times 300 blocks to finally get a job as a
designer," he said. "I didn't have a bus fare, and my wife and I
wasn't eating. But I knew I would do it. I had a crystal ball.

"And other Cubans who risked their lives had a crystal ball. This
was America. Boy, was it good."

And now Vidal Francisco Vidal Blanca is looking into his crystal
ball again in the travesty of justice that surrounds Elian
Gonzalez.

"Of course Janet Reno is a handmaiden to a pimp," he said. "That
poor lady."

He is, I suspect, talking about our president, who you may know
better as Hillary's campaign manager. Cuban-Americans who have
had their friends slaughtered, their fathers taken away, tend to
talk in extremes.

"This rubbish about Elian and the pimp called Clinton," he said.

"How come the New York Times doesn't understand that Clinton is
setting up his legacy?

"He is about to normalize relations with Cuba. Gore says, 'Save
Elian from a dictatorship.' That is a con job. Clinton normalizes
relations with Cuba and cuts off the embargo."

It is not accidental, I would think, that lawyer Gregory Craig
represents Juan Miguel Gonzalez, father of little Elian.

I am not quite sure who is paying him for his brilliant
representation of this man, Juan Miguel, who a Cuban court denied
custody of little Elian.

We do know Craig is an extremely close friend of the
Clintonistas.

Remember his face? No? Remember impeachment?

Yeah, that was the face of Gregory Craig on page one, arguing
that Clinton, like George Washington, never told a lie.

That's on the scale of Claude Rains in "Casablanca" at the
airport saying, "Round up the usual suspects."

But let me indulge Vidal Francisco Vidal Blanca. "Now, do you see
it?" Francisco asked. "Clinton's handmaiden represents a
communist pig. Why? Do I have to draw pictures, which I do for a
living?

"Clinton wants to go down in history. He demands a legacy. He
doesn't ask for it. He demands it and will do anything to get it.

" A new story? Not really. President Richard Nixon took away the
liberal fight over Vietnam by pulling out. "He angered the
liberals by sending Kissinger to Russia so many times he should
have got frequent flyer miles. And Nixon went to China.

"Nixon took away his opposition's fight. Now Clinton is going to
use this same thinking. He will stop the embargo on Cuba. Oh, the
liberals will love this, and there will be some Cubans who might
think, 'Oh, my mother will get more food now.'

"I understand the shark who eats votes. But a real Cuban will
spit in the pimp's face. Let me tell you, this will be his
so-called legacy. The legacy of a pimp. "OK, lay in bed with
Castro -- a murderer, a butcher, a rapist -- and to hell with a
little boy called Elian. Please go to mass and pray for that
little human I have never met but would take into my home today.

"This Cuban will spit in Clinton's face and burn his picture. We
all have to die, but we have to die with honor. That's all I want
to say."


=
 Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT

  FROM THE DESK OF:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  *Mike Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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[CTRL] Fw: [a16-international-planning] WTO: Shrink or Sink! The "Turnaround" Agenda

[Robert F. Tatman]

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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 5:23 PM
Subject: [a16-international-planning] WTO: Shrink or Sink! The "Turnaround"
Agenda


- please distribute widely. Apologies for crosspostings -

After civil society and activists from around the world scored the fantastic
victory in Seattle against the World Trade Organization (WTO) last year, the
question we have all been asked is "where do we go from here?" How do we
continue to build on and expand the momentum that we enjoy, and how do we
broaden the movement and bring more people and organizations into it?

Last year we rallied under the slogan "No New Round - Turn Around." The
international sign-on letter demanding a moratorium on further trade and
investment negotiations through the WTO had more than 1500 groups signed on
to it by the time of the Ministerial.

People representing a variety of country-based campaigns worldwide came
together in March to strategize and discuss next steps. Like everyone, we
were eager to find a way to discuss "next steps" with international allies.
When we heard that several of the activists highly involved over the past
three years in the campaigns against the Multilateral Agreement on
Investment (MAI) and WTO   -- from India, Canada, Malaysia, Mexico, Chile,
Europe -- were coming to the US for several other overlapping meetings, we
reached out to colleagues from other countries -- Philippines, Cameroon,
Ghana, France, Ecuador, Japan, New Zealand -- which were active in these
past campaigns but would otherwise not be in the U.S. at that time.

At this strategy meeting, a consensus document -- inspired by the success of
the "No New Round, Turnaround" letter -- was created with the goal of
launching a new international NGO campaign. The document, attached &
included in the body of the e-mail, is called: "WTO - Shrink or Sink! The
Turn Around Agenda."

As with last year's successful international campaign, the "WTO - Shrink or
Sink!" campaign aims to incorporate the approaches and issues of a variety
of organizations and networks. It offers a fundamental critique of the WTO
and the system of corporate managed trade that we are currently living
under, and sets forth a set of demands on our governments to roll-back the
power and authority of the WTO.

The idea is to pass this statement around and build up an even larger and
more diverse list of signatories than previous statements. With thanks to
Friends of the Earth International for taking on this function last time,
Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch has agreed (at least for now) to take
responsibility for collecting the names of the groups who sign on. Some of
the groups that helped draft the statement have already signed it, and we
are hoping for many many more! All we are doing is keeping track of the
names, so it is on everyone who gets this email to spread it around and find
groups to sign on.

We should set an international Day of Action (for later this spring/summer)
to launch the campaign with press events, teach-ins, demonstrations, etc. in
cities and capitals around the world, similar to the September 15, 1999 Days
of Action on the WTO around the world.

Here are the details for how an organization can sign the letter:

1) This is an organizational sign-on letter only. We will not be adding
individuals to it.
2) In the subject line type  in "Shrink or Sink signatory"
3) In the body of the e-mail list the organization and country (contact
information such as address, phone & fax is also appreciated) that you are
signing on. Those who wish should also mention how many people the
organization represents.
4) Send the e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5) You can also sign the letter by going to www.tradewatch.org - click on
WTO on the globe.

We will be sending out regular updates with the signatories. Please
circulate this amongst your colleagues and networks.



WTO - Shrink or Sink!
The Turn Around Agenda

It's time to turn trade around. In November 1999, the World Trade
Organization's (WTO) Third Ministerial Meeting in Seattle collapsed in
spectacular fashion, in the face of unprecedented protest from people and
governments around the world. We believe it is essential to use this moment
as an opportunity to change course and develop an alternative, humane,
democratically accountable and sustainable system of commerce that benefits
all. This process entails rolling back the power and authority of the WTO.

The GATT Uruguay Round Agreements and the establishment of the WTO were
proclaimed as a means of enhancing the creation of global wealth and
prosperity and promoting the well-being of all people in all member states.
In reality, however, The WTO has contributed to the concentration of wealth
in the hands of the rich few; increasing poverty for the majority of the
world's peoples, especially in third w

[CTRL] FW: One man packs, another attacks

[K]

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 -Cui Bono?-

-begin forwarded message-

> Not only did the so- called "peaceful protester" physically attack a
> Second Amendment supporter, he hurled racial epithets and lied about
> his actions.  I think it's representative of the type of person who
> wishes to gut the Bill of Rights, and that we need to continually hold
> the mentality of the anti- rights bigots up for scrutiny.
>
> ~Olga
>
> Source:
> Boulder Weekly
> http://www.boulderweekly.com/
>
> Photo
> 
>
> One man packs, another attacks
> http://www.boulderweekly.com/waynesword.html
>
> A leading anti-gunner attacks Shariar Ghalam
>
> by Wayne Laugesen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> Shariar Ghalam, a gun-toting activist, fought a war and smuggled his
> family from tyranny to freedom.  He's seen people hang for their
> beliefs.  He thought he'd seen it all, until last week.
>
> Ghalam-locked and loaded with a Sig Sauer 9mm semi automatic-was
> attacked
> by a peace protester while awaiting a Charlton Heston speech.
>
> Get this: The aggressor was Robert Howell, vice president of the
> Boulder
>
> Chapter of the Bell Campaign, which lobbies for gun laws and peace.
>
> Perhaps Howell, 55, thought Ghalam was a Neanderthal loser, as the
> anti-gunners like to view their opponents.  He's not.  Ghalam, 36, is
> successful and smart.  He speaks five languages fluently-Persian,
> English, French, Kurdish and Arabic.
>
> At age 18, Ghalam flew F-5 fighter jets solo into combat, dropping a
> half dozen 1,500-pound bombs a day on Iraqi targets and shooting down
> enemy fighters.
>
> He's competent, having started his own construction business in
> Boulder from scratch.  His company, SMG Construction, was widely
> acclaimed for renovating a church parsonage into a home for the
> Boulder County AIDS Project in record time.
>
> Ghalam fought hard to be here, smuggling his dad from an Iranian
> prison to save him from execution by Hezboallah ("Party of God")
> guards who served
>
> the Ayatollah Khomeini.  Ghalam is clearly above average, and was able
> to rise above tyranny in a quest for freedom.  He represents
> everything this country is about.
>
> Yet today, he stands charged with brawling and has been deprived of
> his right to legally conceal a gun.  That's because Ghalam was
> slugged, then
>
> chased down by Howell.
>
> It all began shortly after Ghalam and Howell showed up in front of
> Macky
>
> Auditorium the early evening of March 21.  Heston, president of the
> National Rifle Association, was to give a speech that night that
> Ghalam wanted to hear.  Upon his arrival at Macky, one of several
> pro-gun protesters handed him a sign and bullhorn.  Howell, along with
> at least 100 others, arrived with signs opposing guns.
>
>
> A "dirty Arab"
>
> One peace protester told Ghalam he looked like "a dirty Arab." A small
> group of peace protesters also antagonized Ghalam, saying he looked
> like a Middle Eastern terrorist.  Ghalam, who is Kurdish, ignored
> them.
>
> Ghalam had a bullhorn and was chanting pro-gun, pro-freedom slogans.
> Howell says Ghalam came too close to him with the bullhorn, and
> refused polite requests to move along.
>
> "I gently pushed the horn sideways," Howell says.  "Then he steps back
> and rams the bullhorn into the side of my head.  So I threw a punch
> and hit him in the nose."
>
> Apparently, nobody in the crowd-including Howell's friend and fellow
> protester-saw Ghalam hit Howell with a bullhorn.  They did see Howell
> slug Ghalam, and dozens of cameras recorded the blood.
>
> "My witness, Ann Coakley with the Bell Campaign, did not see him hit
> me,
>
> which is a bit puzzling," Howell says.  "All I can say is she must
> have looked away.  I'm just hoping some of the kids who were there
> with other
>
> anti-gun groups saw it."
>
> Ghalam says nobody saw it, because it didn't happen.
>
> "We're carrying our signs and this man comes up to me and says take
> your
>
> bullhorn away," Ghalam says.  "He calls me something like a 'filthy
> Arab.' I said I was doing what he was, and exercising my right to free
> speech and peaceable assembly.  He got closer, and closer, and pushed
> the bullhorn into my face.  I shoved him, and repeatedly said 'don't
> touch me please,' as I continuously backed away."
>
> Whatever happened in the first few moments of the fight remains in
> dispute. It's an established fact, however, that Ghalam walked away,
> trying to end the dispute.  Channel 4 News has it on tape.  Witnesses,
> including police, saw it.
>
> "I'm walking away, and he's chasing me down hitting me as I try to get
> away," Ghalam says.
>
> Even Howell doesn't contest that.  "After I slugged him, I went after
> him," Howell told me.  "He was backing up, and I proceeded toward him.
>  This went on for about 10 feet."
>
> It went on until University of Colorado police officer Paul Davis
> tackled Howell and held him to the ground.  "

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Kemp Wants PJB in Debates -- Blasts Bush-GOP

[Bill Richer]

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Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!

Dear Brigade,

"The Republicans have squandered their control of Congress and continue to
avoid serious consideration of tax, Social Security or Medicare reform
George W. Bush  resists proposing bold reform to the tax code or the
Social Security system. He has yet to make an issue of preventing
American sovereignty from slipping away to the alphabet soup of
international bureaucracies such as the U.N., the IMF and the WTO. The
governor also seems content with a foreign policy that designates us the
world's policeman and endorses the widespread use of economic sanctions
and boycotts that harm innocent people"

GO PAT GO!
Linda

--

The Washington Times -- April 05, 2000

Let the Reform candidate debate
by Jack Kemp

   This year, the Reform Party's presidential candidate, probably Pat
Buchanan, will receive more than $12 million in federal matching funds, but
as things stand now, he will not be given a chance to debate the Republican
and Democratic candidates. That's wrong.

An electorate that wants real change in fiscal, education and foreign
policies
will make sure the Reform Party remains a force to be reckoned with - at
least until it has done its job of motivating the two major parties to offer
voters a real choice.

Naturally I would like to see the Republican Party become the party of
reform, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen any time soon. The
Republicans have squandered their control of Congress and continue to avoid
serious consideration of tax, Social Security or Medicare reform.

George W. Bush, while the best presidential candidate, appears unwilling to
lead the GOP with a visionary reform agenda. He resists proposing bold
reform to the tax code or the Social Security system. He has yet to make an
issue of preventing American sovereignty from slipping away to the alphabet
soup of international bureaucracies such as the U.N., the IMF and the WTO.
The governor also seems content with a foreign policy that designates us the
world's policeman and endorses the widespread use of economic sanctions
and boycotts that harm innocent people.

The Democrats are the party of the status quo. The best Al Gore can do is
label his opponents as "extremists" and any hint of reform as a "risky
scheme." His strategy is to claim credit for everything good in America and
scare people into believing that only he can prevent it from falling apart.

The Reform Party is a national party, but it is considered a "minor" one by
the Federal Election Commission. The FEC defines a minor party to be "a
political party whose candidate for the presidency in the preceding
presidential election received more than 5 percent, but less than 25 percent,
of the total popular votes cast." Ross Perot, founder of the Reform Party,
received more than 8 percent of the popular vote in the 1996 presidential
election, entitling the party to partial funding for its convention in Long
Beach,
Calif., in August of this year.

In order to participate in the debates, however, all candidates must satisfy
certain eligibility requirements established by the independent Commission
on Presidential Debates, a private, nonpartisan, nonprofit corporation with
co-
chairmen and a board of directors that looks like an honor roll of the
Republican and Democratic establishments. Under its old rules, the CPD
required candidates to be U.S. citizens of at least 35 years of age and to
have lived in the United States for the last 14 years, as the Constitution
demands; to be on the ballot in enough states to potentially win a majority
of
the electoral vote; to be organized in a majority of the states where they
are
on the ballot; and to be eligible for matching funds from the FEC. Reform
Party candidates meet those requirements.

Yet according to a new rule by the CPD, candidates must also receive at
least 15 percent support in the polls three weeks prior to a debate before
being allowed to participate in the debate, even though third-party
presidential candidates qualify for public matching funds if they received at
least 5 percent of the popular vote cast in the last presidential election.
This
additional criterion makes it virtually impossible for a third-party
candidate to
participate in the debates.

Mr. Perot set a high standard when he received 19 percent of the popular
vote in 1992, and the CPD may be using that as the benchmark for
establishing their threshold for participation in the presidential debates.
But a
15 percent threshold for the debates is totally unreasonable and
discriminatory when the threshold for receiving public matching funds is only
5 percent.

The CPD appears to ignore the fact that no candidate has ever been at 15
percent in the polls prior to the debates. In 1992, Mr. Perot only reached
double digits after participating in the debates. A rule at such

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Anti-gunner Attacks Shariar Ghalam

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Dear Brigade,

"It was in a Boy Scout manual, which I carry with me to this day," Ghalam
says.  "I remember the first time I read the Second Amendment.  I said there
is no way this can be true.  There is no such thing as a country that would
write into its constitution a law that would allow people to have weapons to
protect themselves against tyranny.  I said 'This is too good to be true.' I
made it my mission in life to someday live in the country that was so devoted
to freedom that it allowed its people the tools necessary to overthrow a
government"

For the Cause, Linda

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A leading anti-gunner attacks Shariar Ghalam

by Wayne Laugesen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Shariar Ghalam, a gun-toting activist, fought a war and smuggled his family
from tyranny to freedom.  He's seen people hang for their beliefs. He thought
he'd seen it all, until last week.

Ghalam-locked and loaded with a Sig Sauer 9mm semi automatic-was
attacked by a peace protester while awaiting a Charlton Heston speech.

Get this: The aggressor was Robert Howell, vice president of the Boulder
Chapter of the Bell Campaign, which lobbies for gun laws and peace.

Perhaps Howell, 55, thought Ghalam was a Neanderthal loser, as the anti-
gunners like to view their opponents.  He's not.  Ghalam, 36, is successful
and smart.  He speaks five languages fluently-Persian, English, French,
Kurdish and Arabic.

At age 18, Ghalam flew F-5 fighter jets solo into combat, dropping a half
dozen 500-pound bombs a day on Iraqi targets and shooting down enemy
fighters.

He's competent, having started his own construction business in Boulder
from scratch.  His company, SMG Construction, was widely acclaimed for
renovating a church parsonage into a home for the Boulder County AIDS
Project in record time.

Ghalam fought hard to be here, smuggling his dad from an Iranian prison to
save him from execution by Hezboallah ("Party of God") guards who served
the Ayatollah Khomeini.  Ghalam is clearly above average, and was able to
rise above tyranny in a quest for freedom.  He represents everything this
country is about.

Yet today, he stands charged with brawling and has been deprived of his
right to legally conceal a gun.  That's because Ghalam was slugged, then
chased down by Howell.

It all began shortly after Ghalam and Howell showed up in front of Macky
Auditorium the early evening of March 21.  Heston, president of the National
Rifle Association, was to give a speech that night that Ghalam wanted to
hear.  Upon his arrival at Macky, one of several pro-gun protesters handed
him a sign and bullhorn.  Howell, along with at least 100 others, arrived
with
signs opposing guns.

 A "dirty Arab"

One peace protester told Ghalam he looked like "a dirty Arab." A small
group of peace protesters also antagonized Ghalam, saying he looked like a
Middle Eastern terrorist.  Ghalam, who is Kurdish, ignored them.

Ghalam had a bullhorn and was chanting pro-gun, pro-freedom slogans.
Howell says Ghalam came too close to him with the bullhorn, and refused
polite requests to move along.

"I gently pushed the horn sideways," Howell says.  "Then he steps back and
rams the bullhorn into the side of my head.  So I threw a punch and hit him
in the nose."

Apparently, nobody in the crowd-including Howell's friend and fellow
protester-
saw Ghalam hit Howell with a bullhorn.  They did see Howell slug Ghalam,
and dozens of cameras recorded the blood.

"My witness, Ann Coakley with the Bell Campaign, did not see him hit me,
which is a bit puzzling," Howell says.  "All I can say is she must have
looked
away.  I'm just hoping some of the kids who were there with other anti-gun
groups saw it."

Ghalam says nobody saw it, because it didn't happen.

"We're carrying our signs and this man comes up to me and says take your
bullhorn away," Ghalam says.  "He calls me something like a 'filthy Arab.' I
said I was doing what he was, and exercising my right to free speech and
peaceable assembly.  He got closer, and closer, and pushed the bullhorn
into my face.  I shoved him, and repeatedly said 'don't touch me please,' as
I
continuously backed away."

Whatever happened in the first few moments of the fight remains in dispute.
It's an established fact, however, that Ghalam walked away, trying to end the
dispute.  Channel 4 News has it on tape.  Witnesses, including police, saw
it.

"I'm walking away, and he's chasing me down hitting me as I try to get
away," Ghalam says.

Even Howell doesn't contest that.  "After I slugged him, I went after him,"
Howell told me.  "He was backing up, and I proceeded toward him. This went
on for about 10 feet."

It went on until University of Colorado police officer Paul Davis tackled
Howell
and held him to the ground.  "Officer Davis went after the man who he
thought was the a

[CTRL] Bio-Ethics

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Feature
April 3 , 2000/Volume 5, Number 28
Is Bioethics Ethical?
by Wesley J. Smith

The case of James H. Armstrong, M.D. v. The State of Montana should have been
merely a skirmish in the never-ending national struggle over abortion. Instead,
relying on the reasoning of certain “experts” in the moral choices surrounding
health care, the Montana Supreme Court issued in October 1999 a sweeping
decision that could make huge changes in the way Montanans live—and the way
they die.

What happened in Montana is happening across the country, usually less
dramatically but nonetheless steadily. The United States has a bad case of
“expertitis,” and for many years we have been ceding to experts control over
our public decisions. Now the most important questions about health care have
been added to the list. Decision making has been quietly co-opted by
“bioethics,” a genre of philosophical discourse practiced by an elite group of
academics, philosophers, lawyers, and physicians, many of whom are openly
hostile to the sanctity of life and the Hippocratic traditions that most people
still take for granted.

Bioethicists spend much of their time arguing with one another, beneath—or,
more accurately, above—the public radar, in arcane academic journals, books,
university symposia, and government-appointed commissions. This is no empty
intellectual enterprise, but a project aimed at changing America. In the course
of their arguments, bioethicists are arriving at a consensus about the course
of our medical future, and they are slowly succeeding at transforming the laws
of public health and the ethics of clinical medicine in their own image.

At issue in the Montana case was a state law requiring that doctors (as opposed
to physician-assistants) perform all abortions. This the court unanimously
overturned; but it didn't stop there. Writing for a 6-2 majority, Justice James
C. Nelson went on to impose a radical philosophical imperative on the people of
Montana, unwarranted by the facts of the case and unnecessary to its prudent
adjudication. Indeed, Nelson's audacious opinion will be grist for litigation
in Montana for many years to come.

Its essential holding is this: “The Montana Constitution broadly guarantees
each individual the right to make medical judgments affecting her or his bodily
integrity and health in partnership with a chosen health care provider free
from government interference.” As the two justices who objected to the scope of
the ruling, Karla M. Gray and Chief Justice J.A. Turnage, warned, “the Court's
opinion sweeps so broadly as to encompass and decide such issues as the right
to physician-assisted suicide and other important health and medical-related
issues which simply were not litigated in this case.”

Gray and Turnage's trepidation is abundantly warranted. If the ruling means
that virtually anything goes medically in Montana so long as a patient requests
it and a health care professional is willing to provide it, then patients can
ask doctors to kill them for organ-donation purposes, parents or guardians can
secure the killing of disabled infants, and people can volunteer to be
experimented on in dangerous ways that are currently illegal—all this as a
result not of a considered decision by the people of Montana but of a little-
noticed ruling by the state supreme court.

As it happens, the Montana constitutional convention that created the state
right to privacy in 1972 explicitly refused to include abortion and other
medical issues in the privacy guarantee. So, to justify its ruling, the court
looked to precedents like Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision
that legalized abortion nationwide. Even more than on case law, however, the
Montana court relied on philosophical treatises. In particular, the authority
it cited most frequently is the book Life's Dominion: An Argument About
Abortion, Euthanasia, and Individual Freedom (1993), by the attorney and
bioethicist Ronald Dworkin.

Dworkin's thesis is that true adherence to a modern understanding of the
sanctity-of-life ethic requires that all of us be permitted to “decide for
ourselves” about abortion and euthanasia and that our decisions be accepted by
society and tolerated by those who disagree. Otherwise society is
“totalitarian.” The majority opinion in Armstrong cites Life's Dominion so many
times and applies its reasoning so enthusiastically that Ronald Dworkin's
philosophy may now be considered the court-mandated health care creed of the
state of Montana.

Dworkin's triumph in Armstrong v. Montana illustrates the growing influence of
bioethics. To become a bioethicist isn't hard. No tests have to be passed;
practitioners are not licensed, like attorneys, physicians, real estate agents,
and hairdressers; and, while more than 30 universities offer degrees in
bioethics, there are no standards of

[CTRL] Gore, Lewinsky Emails under WH guard. (fwd)

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From: The Washington Times

A senior White House internal security official says he has
assumed control of hundreds of e-mails to and from Vice President
Al Gore's office; documents that could prove significant in
federal and congressional probes of 1996 campaign finance
improprieties.

Charles Easley, the top security officer, also said in a sworn
affidavit that he had taken possession of printouts of e-mails to
and from Monica Lewinsky and locked them in his office safe.
This is the first time the location of these printouts has been
revealed.

Meanwhile, the White House sought in another court document to
refute allegations that these materials had been tampered with or
were slated to be destroyed.  "It is the current policy of EOP
[Executive Office of the President] to make back-up tapes of the
hard drive files of departed employee [sic] and not to destroy
those back-up tapes," White House lawyers said in an affidavit
submitted Monday evening to U.S.  District Court in Washington,
D.C., a copy of which was obtained by FoxNews.com.

The White House statements did not indicate whether there had
previously been a policy to destroy old computer files.

The affidavits were submitted in connection with a civil suit
filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal activist group that
represents several Republicans whose FBI files were improperly
obtained by the Clinton White House.  The office of the
Independent Counsel has determined that there is no evidence in
the so-called "Filegate" matter to warrant the filing of criminal
charges against anyone in the Clinton White House.

The location and safekeeping of the computer files has been a
subject of conjecture and controversy for months.

Sheryl Hall, a former Clinton White House computer specialist,
said in sworn testimony in the Judicial Watch suit that a staff
colleague told her the White House "plans to destroy these ...
tapes of the computer hard drives of departed Clinton White House
staffers."

The contents of the White House tapes, computer disk drives and
e-mails may prove significant in a Justice Department criminal
probe into possible campaign finance abuses during the 1996
campaign involving Gore.  These materials are also being sought
in the Judicial Watch civil suit.

A Justice Department spokesman said he could not comment on
whether investigators would now seek the materials in Easely's
possession.

Gore says he did nothing illegal during the 1996 fundraising
effort.  He has said his Republican critics are "chasing their
tails" in their efforts to discredit him.

The materials cover a period in 1997 when Gore and his advisers
were seeking to answer questions about allegations of improper
activities, including Gore's telephone fundraising solicitations
and a fundraiser he attended at a Buddhist temple in Los Angeles.


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[CTRL] Scholar claims Cromwell was poisoned in high-level plot

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http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,155904,00.html
Royalist revenge

Scholar claims Cromwell was poisoned in high-level plot

John Ezard
Wednesday April 5, 2000

On June 1 1663 the mischievous Oxford diarist Anthony Wood wrote in his
journal: "Dr Bate died at London of the French pox and confessed on his
death bed that he poisoned Oliver Cromwell".

Wood's claim was dismissed or ridiculed for centuries by the few who
noticed it. One of its problems was that George Bate - physician not
only to Cromwell but to Charles l and Charles II - had not died until
five years later, although he is known to have been very ill in 1663.

But the diarist and the doctor were telling the truth, according to a
study of evidence in a new book. This finds that Cromwell died from
three poisons administered by Bate in a high-level plot to restore the
throne.

Yesterday the author, Howard McMains, a US scholar, said that without
this conspiracy "the history of England could have been immeasurably
different".

The American war of independence might never have happened. Britain
could have remained a republic or developed into a constitutional
monarchy far earlier.

Cromwell, who created the country's only, short-lived, republic after
winning the English civil war and executing Charles l, died on September
3 1658 following 33 days of illness.

The cause of his death was given as malaria. But Dr McMains' book -
based on the first medical study of Cromwell's illness as chronicled in
family letters - concludes that his symptoms indicate poisoning by
antimony, mercury and arsenic.

The letters show that the 59-year-old Lord Protector was as strong as a
horse, Dr McMains says. He recovered three times, becoming well enough
to ride a horse and hold a dinner party. One of these recoveries
occurred while Bate was away treating another patient. But the last
poison, arsenic, killed him.

The author says he has shown the family letters to an eminent US
toxicologist and to a doctor. After studying the pattern of symptoms,
both endorse his theory.

Wood's diary said two bishops "and his majesty" knew of the plot. One of
Charles ll's first actions after the Stuart dynasty was restored to the
throne was to appoint Bate as his physician.

Doubt was cast on the theory yesterday by a British scholar, John
Morrill, professor of British and Irish history at Cambridge.

"He has done tremendous work and it's a very interesting book," Prof
Morrill said, "But I don't think the evidence adds up to what he wants
to find."

Anthony Wood was an unreliable witness, and "Cromwell's health had in
fact been deteriorating for the last two or three years."

The Death of Oliver Cromwell, by Howard McMains, University Press of
Kentucky (£21.50)

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[CTRL] Paper Nukes

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>From http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,155764,00.html

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Nuclear papers found on street
Paul Brown, Environment correspondent
Wednesday April 5, 2000

Papers found on a pavement near the Aldermaston nuclear weapons factory in
Berkshire reveal secrets about the government's plans to develop new weapons.
The papers, dated March 10, will embarrass the Ministry of Defence because they
give targets for nuclear weapons research, development and production,
including collaboration with the French and Americans. The government's only
official announcement is that it will "maintain a capability" for nuclear
weapons.

The new weapons are to replace the 100 kilotonne warheads on Trident
submarines. These are five times the size of the Hiroshima bomb and enough to
wipe out the centre of Moscow. They are felt to be too big for modern precision
warfare.

Smaller warheads with the punch to destroy enemy hardened bunkers are thought
to be needed to make Trident more efficient.

The papers also give dates for the nearby Burghfield Trident warhead assembly
plant to be closed - mixed up with memos detailing safety lapses.

There was also a handwritten draft explaining how British Nuclear Fuels
privatisation plans helped to get it the contract to run Aldermaston, the
controversial nuclear bomb making facility. This plan was postponed by the
government last Wednesday, but the contract was confirmed on the same day.

The government hoped to raise £1.5bn from the sale of BNFL, which in turn
offered to put money into upgrading the A45 building at Aldermaston which
purifies highly enriched uranium for Trident nuclear warheads.

Using shareholders money to make a new generation of nuclear weapons was
unlikely to make BNFL any more popular, but this promise would probably have
been kept secret. The government's official position, given by Helen Liddell,
the trade and industry minister, is that BNFL got the contract because of its
expertise in clearing up nuclear waste and decommissioning.

The scheme to develop new nuclear weapons has not been announced by the
government, which is under pressure to reduce weaponry under the nuclear non-
proliferation treaty.

Also among the papers is the programme "to ensure safe, secure and reliable
stockpile" of nuclear weapons by next month.

The work plan details the need for new partnerships with universities and
secondment and swaps of staff with French and American nuclear weapons
laboratories.

The plan also involves assessing the skills of Aldermaston employees to make
sure enough experts are retained who are capable of designing new nuclear
weapons.

The documents make it clear that Aldermaston is still dismantling warheads from
the now defunct Polaris fleet and hopes to develop a plan for dealing with them
by next month.

The government's plans to save money on nuclear weapons partly involve cutting
the workforce at Aldermaston and Burghfield by 1,400 from 4,500. This has
included a plan for closing Burghfield, where the nuclear warheads manufactured
at Aldermaston are put together with high explosive to make sure that they blow
up correctly on reaching their targets.

Originally the two sites were kept nine miles apart because of the fears of
what may go wrong in an accident, but now it has been decided to do the packing
at Aldermaston. The work plan says this is supposed to happen in March 2001.
This gives time for all the facilities, including safety devices, to be
replicated at Aldermaston.

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[CTRL] Did the Feds "Fix" the Market?

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON PULLS LEGAL STUNT IN WILLEY PRIVACY ACT MATTER

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TO: "Prudy":

Regarding the Vote Issue, I Plead the 5th Amendment of the United States
Constitution. That my Dear is a "Privacy Issue" between Me and the Good
Lord.
Sorry to Disappoint you my Dear. I am AN Independent Voter; And Will Refuse
to
Vote the "Lessor of Two Evils". Think about it. That is How "Tryannts Get
In".

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I'm glad you didn't too, but did you vote for Dole?  Prior to his surgery,
he
stepped around a bit too.  Even Libby has a bit of a problem.  Oh well.
Prudy

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[CTRL] NEW AGE PLANETARY ALIGNMENT?

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NEW AGE PLANETARY ALIGNMENT?

See story: http://www.earthradioTV.com

Thanks, Alfred

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON PULLS LEGAL STUNT IN WILLEY PRIVACY ACT MATTER

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<<   LoL. ~ Damn Glad I sure as Hell Didn't Vote For Him ! >>

I'm glad you didn't too, but did you vote for Dole?  Prior to his surgery, he
stepped around a bit too.  Even Libby has a bit of a problem.  Oh well.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg

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<<
 The wonderful thing about today's media is that you really can
 choose what you watch. You can tune in to Turner Classic Movies--
 if you have cable-- and see all the Oscar winning movies that were,
 including the 1932 version of Midsummer Night's Dream with
 Mickey Rooney (as a kid) playing Puck and a young James
 Cagney playing Bottom (the Special Effects are stunning). Or
 Shirley Temple in The Bluebird--to mention only two of the least
 controversial films on a very long list. >>

Oh Owl, wasn't that sort of pre-talkie talkie marvellous.  I've only seen it
once, but I was enthralled.  I had a thing for Victor Jory for ages after I
saw that.  And that beautiful child who became a kind of underlord in
Hollywood (can't think of the name right now.  And Merle Oberon.  Oh, it was
an experience.  I saw it in about l976.  A few days later I saw "The Naughty
Old Lady."  It's a French film.  If you ever get a chance to see it.  The
acting is fabulous.  It's not often you see two good ones in the same week.

There is some good stuff out there.  Just enough to prove they can do without
car chases, karate battles and long, long, long, long, long sex scenes.
Prudy

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Unless I'm mistaken or there's been a recent organisational change, the
German national intelligence agency is the Bundesnachrichtendienst (Bnd.)
"Verfassungsschutz" can be translated as "protection of the constitution."

Possibly there is a department within the Bnd for "protection
of the constitution?

Kris Millegan wrote:

> Germany's national intelligence agency, Verfassungsschutz, openly warns its
> business and industry community against Echelon. Germany's intelligence
> agencies do more than just warn against the spying, however.
>
> They also instruct German industry in how to protect themselves against the
> illegal espionage network. Since June 1999, the German intelligence service
> has been recommending German companies to encrypt all important information,
> i.e. encode it to prevent Echelon's spies from listening in.
>
> And the entire process is very open. Verfassungsschutz has issued its
> warnings and protection guidelines as folders which they send to German
> industry.

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[CTRL] Fwd: NDN: Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3

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Re: [CTRL] Czech: FBI imperialism to replaces the Soviet kind

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<< "The FBI believes that it is
 essential to station more of its highly skilled Special Agents in other
 countries to prevent terrorism and foreign crime from reaching into the US to
 kill and harm Americans. >>

I didn't know they had these "highly skilled Special Agents."  How about
using a few of them right here in the US?  They're sending these guys abroad,
and we're stuck with the guys who were at Ruby Ridge and Waco.  It's not
fair.  We pay the taxes.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Humor: Sweet Voices - These are GREAT!

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Subject: sweet voices


Ever notice how a 4-year-old's voice is louder than 200 adult voices?
Several years ago, I returned home from a trip just when a storm hit,  with
crashing thunder and severe lightning.  As I came into my bedroom about 2
a.m., I found my two children in
bed with my wife, Karey, apparently scared by the loud storm.  I resigned
myself to sleep in the guest bedroom that night.

The next day, I talked to the children, and explained that it was OK to
sleep with Mom when the storm was bad, but when I was expected home, please
don't sleep with Mom that night.  They said OK.

After my next trip several weeks later, Karey and the children picked me up
in the terminal at the appointed time.  Since the plane was late, everyone
had come into the terminal to wait for my plane's arrival, along with
hundreds of other folks waiting for their arriving passengers.

As I entered the waiting area, my son saw me, and came running shouting,
"Hi, Dad!  I've got some good news!" As I waved back, I said loudly, "What's
the good news?"

"Nobody slept with Mommy while you were away this time!"  Alex shouted.

The airport became very quiet, as everyone in the waiting area looked at
Alex, then turned to me, and then searched the rest of the area to see if
they could figure out exactly who his Mom was.

-

An acquaintance of mine who is a physician told this story about her
then-4-year-old daughter.  On the way to preschool, the doctor had left her
stethoscope on the car seat, and her little girl picked it up and began
playing with it.

"Be still, my heart," thought my friend, "my daughter wants to follow in my
footsteps!"
Then the child spoke into the instrument:  "Welcome to McDonald's. May I
take your order?"
-

A certain little girl, when asked her name, would reply, "I'm Mr.
Sugarbrown's daughter." Her mother told her this was wrong, she must say,
"I'm Jane Sugarbrown."

The Vicar spoke to her in Sunday School, and asked, "Aren't you Mr.
Sugarbrown's daughter?"

She replied, "I thought I was, but mother says I'm not."
-

A little girl asked her mother, "Can I go outside and play with the boys?"

Her mother replied, "No, you can't play with the boys, they're too rough."

The little girl thought about it for a few moments and asked "If I find a
smooth one,  can I play with him?"
-

A mother was teaching her 3-year-old the Lord's prayer.  For several
evenings at bedtime she repeated it after her mother.  One night she said
she was ready to solo.

The mother listened with pride as she carefully enunciated each word, right
up to the end of the prayer.  "Lead us not into temptation," she prayed,
"but deliver us some
E-mail, Amen."
-

A Sunday school teacher asked her little children, as they were on the way
to church service, "And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?"

One bright little girl replied, "Because people are sleeping."
-

A little boy opened the big and old family Bible with fascination, he looked
at the old pages as he turned them.  Then something fell out of the Bible
and he picked up and looked at it closely.  It was an old leaf from a tree
that has been pressed in between
pages.

"Momma, look what I found," the boy called out.

"What have you got there, dear?" his mother asked.

With astonishment in the young boy's voice he answered: "It's Adam's
suit!!!"
-

At the beginning of a children's sermon, one girl came up to the altar
wearing a beautiful dress.  As the children were sitting down around the
pastor, he leaned over and said to the girl, "That is a very pretty dress.
Is it your Easter dress?"

The girl replied almost directly into the pastor's clip-on mike, "Yes, and
my mom says it's a bitch to iron."

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<<
 By Terry M. Neal and Lois Romano
 WASHINGTON POSTWASHINGTON, April 2 —  Perhaps it is the way his rhetoric
 soars, sometimes brilliantly, in his staff-prepared speeches, then
 disintegrates into mangled syntax and malapropisms when he deviates from
 text. Just days ago, ad-libbing his way through an education speech, George
 W. Bush vowed to remove the federal “cuff link” that stymies local control of
 schools. >>

What does it matter?  I'll admit the Republican Party would have done better
to be running St. Carlton of Heston.  The actors can do their lines
beautifully.  Ronald Reagan did a wonderful and even convincing job of
speaking to the nation.  That he also slept through meetings and was casually
unconcerned about national issues was okay.  His handlers told him what to do
and what to say and when to say it.  Shrub won't be running the country.  It
is unfortunate that he cannot perform his part very well, but he will just be
sitting around the White House waiting for his handlers to deliver his
orders.  A lot of them will be coming from his mom and dad, so if you liked
the Bush years, you will be very happy with Dubya as our president.  No one
really expects Dubya to run anything.  He doesn't really have much interest,
and he certainly doesn't have the ability.  He does, however, know how to
follow orders; and you all know what happened to Richard Nixon.  It wasn't
the Dems who booted Nixon.  It was his very, very conservative fellows, when
he began to develop a mind of his own.  That won't happen again.  They did an
excellent job of making an example of him.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Elian Gonzalez story and Miami drugs???

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  Perhaps I'm overly sensitized to political issues being involved with the
 drug issue in politics...but given the pathetic obsession being spun in
 the media about the Elian Gonzalez case, I can't help but wonder if the
 fallout from this "story" has more to do with things going on in Miami and
 drug-related politics than meets the eye..If it's my overactive
 imagination please forgive me! >>

And I keep thinking that if Battista had armed these people, he probably
could have defeated Castro in the first place.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Elian Gonzalez story and Miami drugs???

[Kris Millegan]

HI all,
The thing about the cocaine, and heroin mixup. Did anyone else notice all
the hulabaloo over the COCAINE that Lauire Hiett was supposed to have been
shipping? It was HEROIN as we all know now, but when first reported, it was
cocaine, only 14 or 17 kilos or something like that, so it didn't look so
bad. Even BBC World News reported COCAINE was being mailed, when they
broadcast her guilty plea. By that time, EVERYONE know it was dope, not coke,
at least those of us who read and don't depend on TV for all our info.
The reason for this, (and if someone has another take on this I'd be gald
to hear it), was because if it got out that Lauire Hiett, whose husband James
was head of all the Pentagon stuf in Colombia, including letting all those
planes by the green beret radar operators I would imagine, was selling
HEROIN, that means she was involved with the VERY TOP people in the drug
trade in Colombia. (and by association, so her husband James too) (Note he
smurfed her money around for her. HE knew, and was involved. Good job on
getting rid of pesky Americans on the part of those pesky Colombia
traffickers, eh?) At least that is what I and a good knowledgeable friend
have decided. Our anti-drug zealots, and pro-drug profit rakers would really
rather that kind of info not be pondered by the common masses, as someone may
just stand up and say something, loudly. Of course, that hasn't happened, and
probably won't, but I can dream.
Any feedback guys?
Peace,
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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Elian Gonzalez story and Miami drugs???

[Kris Millegan]

No David -- you're not being "overly sensitive"... and considering all, I
have to say that you're probably very WISE for thinking it may have something
more to it than meets the eye. After all, look what history has taught us
about these types of things...  and inevitably, there is ALMOST ALWAYS more
to these matters than meets the eye...

Just like that military officer's wife busted for sending heroin to NYC from
Columbia ... After the bust first happened, they both said he was innocent,
and I thought "Yeah right" ... then yesterday the truth finally came out, &
he admitted to being a part of it, to an extent.

Maybe we'll learn the truth one day about this situation, too -- but for now,
I'm with you. There's probably MUCH more to this than we have been told. One
HAS to wonder, given all the attention this case is getting.

BUT -- don't feel bad, David, for thinking there could be "more" to this
-- it's the government's fault for making us think these things... ha ha
ha... because they ALWAYS LIE.

Enjoy your day, everyone!

- Tanina

 Subj:   [CIA-DRUGS] The Elian Gonzalez story and Miami drugs???
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 Perhaps I'm overly sensitized to political issues being involved with the
drug issue in politics...but given the pathetic obsession being spun in
the media about the Elian Gonzalez case, I can't help but wonder if the
fallout from this "story" has more to do with things going on in Miami and
drug-related politics than meets the eye..If it's my overactive
imagination please forgive me!

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[CTRL] Beyond the Myths

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April 1, 2000

Beyond the Myths

by William Dorich

April 1, 2000 - In a recent article in Air Force Associates magazine
entitled, Kosovo Retrospective Balkan
Myths by Rebecca Grant, president of IRIS, an independent research firm in
Washington, should have been the
magazine's April Fool's Day editorial, it was sick.Sadly it reveals that Ms.
Grant and Air Force Associates are
in the myth-making business that they both criticize.

Bombing a defenseless population from the safety of 15,000 feet is no myth,
it's a war crime. Or is shooting
fish in a barrel the ''Be All You Can Be'' military today in the U.S? That
motto was coined by Maxwell Thurman
known as ''Maxatollah'' head of the U. S. Southern Command during the Panama
invasion. This is the same, 'be
all you can be' American general who sold his military knowledge and
experience to train, aid and abet
genocide in Croatia. He is one of several retired American generals for hire
at Military Professional Resources,
Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, a sub-contractor used in foreign involvements
to skirt American laws. These
American generals trained the Croatian army just prior to Operation Storm
which ethnically cleansed the last
200,000 Serbs from Croatia in August of 1995.Not a single Croatian general
has been indicted for these war
crimes which included the slaughter of over 4,000 Serbian women and
children, the destruction of 65 UN
posts, the killing of 2 UN troops and the use of 60 UN troops as human
shields.The blind eye of Rebecca
Grant is as offensive as President Clinton's blind eye which ignored the
flow of Iranian weapons and Islamic
holy warriors in Bosnia and to Osama bin Laden's support of the
narco-terrorists Albanians who now reign
terror over Kosovo.

In the recently released book, Kosovo Crisis: A Study in Foreign Policy
Mismanagement by Dr. Vojin
Joksimovich, which I published and which I presented last week before the
House of Representatives in
Washington, DC, Col. David Hackworth, the highest decorated American soldier
in Vietnam, endorsed the book
by saying, ''This brilliant fact-filled book exposes a Clinton/Clark phony
victory. Kosovo Crisis destroys the
myth of NATO's invincibility and exposes NATO's General Clark as an inept
fumbler and military lightweight.
Contrary to his claims, Clark, a Perfumed Prince, barely scratched the
Serbian Army.''Ms. Grant would have us
believe Col. Hackworth is a liar.

Rebecca Grant cleverly omits any reference that the Serbs figured out a way
to rig microwave ovens to
operate with the doors open which resembled the heat of a radar site to a
HARM missile.General Clark
launched hundreds of HARM missiles costing $700,000 each to destroy $70
microwave ovens.Ms. Grant
protest too much, or is this an indication of the level of contempt she has
for the truth?

Her claim that, ''Aerospace power has been proven to be decisive in joint
military operations'' makes her look
stupid since the Russians beat NATO forces to Pristina without joint
approval. British General Michael Jackson,
to his credit, refused to follow General Wesley Clark's orders to bomb the
Russians.He said, ''I'm not going to
start World War III over you.'' It was obvious the United States worked
outside of NATO command and carried
out a war within a war proven by the fact that the U.S. sent an aircraft all
the way from Missouri to bomb the
Chinese embassy when the U.S. already had 700 aircraft a few hundred miles
away in Italy.Meanwhile NATO
forces were finding it necessary to borrow weapons from SFOR troops in
Bosnia to use in Kosovo because
theirs were not working.Calling this Keystone Cop effort ''decisive'' is a
joke.One can only wonder who is
paying Rebecca Grant for her opinion, I am convinced it is the Industrial
Military Complex.

It is more than apparent that Rebecca Grant believes that we Americans have
so much power that we can do
as we damned well please.However, the 1980 Vienna Conventions on the Law of
Treaties ''forbids the use of
coercive force to exact adherence to a treaty.''Rambouillet was Albright's
illegal concoction that would have
allowed NATO troops to occupy all of Yugoslavia or be bombed.What a
disgusting assault on international
laws, sovereignty and the rights of the Serbian people to defend themselves
against terrorism.

The hideous aspect of this article is the omission that our American forces
are afraid to leave their barracks in
Kosovo fearful of being shot by the very KLA terrorists they were sent to
defend. It has become obvious that
our military is only omnipotent at 15,000 feet. According to the Sunday
Times, March 19, 2000 the CIA has
finally admitted to training these KLA goons and thugs prior to the bombing.

''Be all you can be'' has come to mean being a thief, a dictator, a rapist
and murderer of Merita Shabiu an 11
year-old Albania

[CTRL] Bush’s persona worries some

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from;
http://msnbc.com/news/389799.asp
Click Here: http://msnbc.com/news/389799.asp">Bush’s persona worries
some
-
Bush’s persona worries some

Questions about candidate’s intellect continue to dog him
Republican presidential candidate Texas Gov. George W. Bush speaks at the
Waukesha County Lincoln Dinner March 30, in Pewaukee, Wis.

By Terry M. Neal and Lois Romano
WASHINGTON POSTWASHINGTON, April 2 —  Perhaps it is the way his rhetoric
soars, sometimes brilliantly, in his staff-prepared speeches, then
disintegrates into mangled syntax and malapropisms when he deviates from
text. Just days ago, ad-libbing his way through an education speech, George
W. Bush vowed to remove the federal “cuff link” that stymies local control of
schools.




‘My concern with the campaign is that the George Bush I know is not coming
through.’
— TOM SCHIEFFER

Bush friendOR PERHAPS it is the way he stumbled through the early
debates against his Republican rivals, repeatedly offering platitudes lifted
from his stump speech to answer questions. Or maybe it is his small
half-smile, which some critics have called a smirk and interpret as a sign of
arrogance.

   Whatever it is, this much is certain: Questions about Bush’s demeanor
and intellectual maturity — or “gravitas,” as columnist George F. Will has
put it - continue to dog him and threaten to become a central issue in a
presidential race that many believe will be decided as much on personality as
issues.

   While Bush is directly challenging Vice President Gore’s ethics and
integrity, Gore will seek in more subtle ways to raise questions about the
Texas governor’s depth and readiness to be president. The vice president’s
first commercial for the general election ends with: “Al Gore is ready. Is
George W.?”

   But Bush’s aides in Austin argue that the public will never buy that a
person educated at Andover, Yale and Harvard, a person who has run his own
oil business and a major league baseball team, as well as the second largest
state in the union, could lack the breadth to run the country.

   “Ann Richards tried that too, and she’s enjoying retirement,” said
Bush campaign spokesman Ari Fleischer, referring to the former Texas
governor’s incendiary attacks on Bush’s maturity and “resume” — she mocked
him as a “shrub” and “some jerk” — in their 1994 race.

   In a recent interview with The Washington Post, Bush said he was eager
to prove his mettle against Gore, who he said seems to believe that lack of
inside-the-Beltway experience equals lack of preparedness.

   “I look forward to debating him on that issue as to what the
definition of ready for the job is,” Bush said. “I happen to believe that
executive experience is really important to be the president. I’ve been the
governor of the second largest state. And I have done so in a way that the
people of my state have endorsed my governorship. I also happen to have had
some private sector experience.”

UNEASINESS AMONG BUSH SUPPORTERS
   Nonetheless, there is an uneasiness among some Bush intimates that the
candidate has yet to project a public persona that is both presidential and
accurate as he moves into a competitive general election campaign.
   “My concern with the campaign is that the George Bush I know is not
coming through,” said Tom Schieffer, a friend who worked with Bush at the
Texas Rangers baseball organization. “He’s a warm, kind, thoughtful person. .
.’. I fear that in all the acting and reacting of a campaign, those qualities
are getting lost.”

   Roland Betts, a New York entertainment mogul, Democrat and Delta Kappa
Epsilon fraternity brother of Bush at Yale, is mystified by the public image
of the man he has called a friend for 36 years. “I don’t think I have yet
seen the person I know,” said Betts, who believes the campaign has not
accentuated those qualities he admires in Bush, such as humor and charisma.
“I think he has come across as a little arrogant and he is not arrogant.”

   Unlike that of Gore, Bush’s natural demeanor tends to be casual and
cocky, and he has a bit of a swagger. His smile is more smirk than packaged
political grin. But face-to-face, his friends insist, he projects more humor
than arrogance, more self-deprecation than self-importance. His personality
traits, his friends complain, become exaggerated and distorted when seen
through the prism of campaign media coverage.

   “It’s like watching a caricature — pieces of reality get blown out of
proportion,” said Joe O’Neill, a longtime friend from Midland. “I recognize
the caricature but the warts become grossly exaggerated.”
   Even the candidate’s wife, Laura Bush, told reporters on the campaign
plane last month that her husband was mostly misunderstood by the public
outside of Texas. “I think the people that know George the best, Texans . . .
all the governors that know him the best, like him the most,” she said, 

[CTRL] German Spies - ECHELON Exists

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://cryptome.org/echelon-de-spy.htm
Click Here: http://cryptome.org/echelon-de-spy.htm">German Spies
ECHELON Exists
-
3 April 2000. Thanks to Bo Elkjaer.


Ekstra Bladet, 31 March 2000
http://www1.ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=44662 (DK)
"This is the confirmation of Echelon's existence, isn't it?" "Yes," says Mr.
Dietrich from the German intelligence service, Verfassungsschutz.

GERMAN SPIES: ECHELON EXISTS

For 18 months now, Germany's intelligence service has issued warnings against
Echelon's industrial espionage
By Bo Elkjaer and Kenan Seeburg
Dig that. Today, Ekstra Bladet can help the upcoming parliamentary commission
that shall investigate Echelon. We can now document that the German
intelligence service has been warning against Echelon's espionage for at
least 18 months. In Denmark, the Military Intelligence Service (FE) states
that they know nothing more than what they read in the newspapers.
They tackle the situation a little differently in Germany.

Germany's national intelligence agency, Verfassungsschutz, openly warns its
business and industry community against Echelon. Germany's intelligence
agencies do more than just warn against the spying, however.

They also instruct German industry in how to protect themselves against the
illegal espionage network. Since June 1999, the German intelligence service
has been recommending German companies to encrypt all important information,
i.e. encode it to prevent Echelon's spies from listening in.

And the entire process is very open. Verfassungsschutz has issued its
warnings and protection guidelines as folders which they send to German
industry.

THIS IS A WARNING

The German intelligence service's descriptions of Echelon totally confirm Ekst
ra Bladet's disclosures during the past six months in which defected spies
have told about their work at these very same espionage bases shown on the
revealing map.

The warning issued by Verfassungsschutz is dated October 1998. It contains a
graphic depiction of the 'Echelon global electronic intelligence system'
showing a world map with several Echelon listening posts drawn in. The same
listening posts that Ekstra Bladet has described in countless articles over
the past six months. The drawing shows how the US, Great Britain, Canada,
Australia and New Zealand are systematically monitoring all communication
around the world. 'Without filtering, Echelon monitors all e-mail, telephone,
facsimile and telex communication sent via satellite around the world,"
writes the German intelligence agency, Verfassungsschutz. Ekstra Bladet spoke
with Verfassungsschutz to confirm that their warning should be taken
seriously.

Did you issue this same warning to German industry?

"Yes. We did," says a spokesman for Verfassungsschutz who says his name is
Mr. Dietrich.

The reason I am asking is to confirm whether this is your stationery.

"Well, it is."

This is the confirmation of Echelon's existence, isn't it?

"Yes," says Mr. Dietrich from the German intelligence service,
Verfassungsschutz.

FE KNOWS NOTHING

Denmark's military intelligence service, FE, whistles a completely different
tune.

"All we know about Echelon's existence comes from so-called 'open sources'
(press and media coverage - ed.). Like stories you have written and articles
published by the foreign press."

What information have you passed on to Denmark's Minister of Defense?

"We told him that we do not participate in Echelon and that the only
information we have on it comes from 'open sources', like I said," says
Michael Peytz from the FE.

At the risk of sounding brazen, one might ask whether the taxpayers are
getting enough for their money if the intelligence service states that it
knows nothing about an extensive system that Germany's Verfassungsschutz has
known about for 18 months?

"Yes, one could ask that question. But we don't know anything about it. And
like I said, we have not participated in it nor do we know anything about
it…," says Michael Peytz to Ekstra Bladet.

So you do not have any other knowledge of Echelon other than that what you
have read in 'open sources'?

"No we don't. That is correct."

Which is also what you have informed the Minister?

"Yes, it is," says Michael Peytz.

TWO-THIRDS INDUSTRIAL SPIES

According to Germany's Verfassungsschutz, Echelon's industrial espionage
should be taken very seriously. In statistics compiled by Verfassungsschutz
on espionage cases from 1997, industrial espionage constitutes not less than
62 percent - or two-thirds - of all espionage cases in Germany known to
Verfassungsschutz. The report from the German intelligence service also
states that the US espionage services behind Echelon - the CIA and the NSA -
are the only Western intelligence services in a group that otherwise consists
of Libyan, Iranian, Iraqi, Chinese and North Korean intelligence services

[CTRL] THE MEDICAL PROFESSION CENSUS - VIOLATES PRIVACY: IMPORTANT TO READ:

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Date: Wed., April 5, 2000 11:00:00 Am EDT.

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From: The Republican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 9:03 PM
Subject: Truly Scary

> FWD via Jim Hardin.
>
> Note:  I can attest somewhat to the article below, but
> my experience was not nearly as troubling.  Five years
> ago when my then 8 year old son had an appendectomy
> we were presented with a form that asked point blank
> if we had firearms in the home and if so if they were
> locked up.  I responded that it was not their business
> and questioned them as to why the interest in firearms.
> They stated that it was because of the danger that
> guns present in the home.  I wrote to the administrator
> with some firearm facts, including that bicycles and pools
> were more of a danger and presented no protection
> benefits as did firearms, pointing out that they did not
> ask about pools or bikes, or alcohol for that matter.  I
> received no response.  - Tony
>
> Friends,
>
> Forget the census. The medical profession is much more intrusive.
> The medical profession has long been opposed to gun ownership.
> And, leadership at the National Center for Disease Control, in
> Atlanta, was recently shaken up after their dis-information on gun
> ownership was exposed for what it was.
>
> Also, doctors have, for several years, been informants for
> law enforcement. There have been many cases where doctors,
> required by law, have reported suspected cases of abuse that
> were found to be baseless. Nevertheless, lives and families were
> sometimes destroyed when families went to a "doctor" for help.
>
> Now, we see the foundation of "abuse" being defined as a
> parent who owns a gun. What happened to the first duty of
> a doctor: "Cause no harm".
>
> Jim Hardin
>
> The Freedom Page
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>
> From: "helenhendrickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [wa-ccw] OT: Truely scary
>
>  >This, from the American Academy of Pediatrics has me really worried.
>  >
>  >http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/children/04/03/kids.firearms/index.html
>  >
>  >Within the article is the following:
>  >
>  >"The Chicago-based group representing 55,000 children's doctors urged
>  >pediatricians to ask questions about guns as they take their
>  >patients' histories and to suggest that parents remove guns from the
>  >home."
>  >
>  >Is this the first step toward declaring parents with guns in the
>  >house "unfit", and that the pediatritions will be calling social
>  >services in to monitor children in houses that might contain guns?
>  >Given the almost carte-blance power that we give to authorities to
>  >investigate child abuse (e.g. Winatchi), this really has me worried.
>  >It doesn't seem to far fetched, given this, to have Dr's. declare
>  >that having guns in the house is a form of child endangerment that
>  >needs to be overseen by authorities.
>  >
>  >Dave Wagner
>
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Digital Society


Lawyer Vultures Circle Microsoft


Meanwhile, DOJ markets its own Internet browser.

MICROSOFT, reeling from a verdict that it abused its monopoly and broke the
law, is facing a wave of actions headed by lawyers who have made millions of
dollars by pursuing the tobacco industry and makers of silicone implants.

The greatest fear of Bill Gates, the Microsoft chairman and still the world's
richest man, is that courtroom veterans of the cigarette wars will turn his
company into the next Philip Morris, the tobacco giant that was laid low by
litigation.

Plaintiffs can win triple damages under the anti-trust laws that Judge Thomas
Penfield Jackson ruled Microsoft had broken. Many class lawsuits are likely
to focus on an internal Microsoft study that said the company could have
charged £25 less for an upgrade to Windows 98. This could allow individual
consumers to claim £75 in damages, resulting in a total legal bill running
into billions.

Walter Olspon of the web site overlawyered.com, said: "Even if you're Bill
Gates, that can get very expensive very fast." Lawyers insisted that it would
be customers, not their lawyers, who would benefit from litigation. Stanley
Chesley, a leading class-action tobacco lawyer, said: "Millions of people
bought Windows, and if the company overcharged consumers it should be held
responsible."

Nineteen states joined the American government in taking legal action against
Microsoft. Other states are likely to sue the company to avoid being
"tobaccoed", a term used to describe states that missed out on the tobacco
bonanza by being slow to litigate. Judge Jackson's "findings of fact" in
November prompted lawyers to make Microsoft a target. Actions were started in
California, Florida, Louisiana, Ohio, New York and Washington DC.

Some of these were so hastily produced that they were riddled with errors.
David Shelby, of Shelby and Cartee, in Birmingham, Alabama, admitted that his
complaint stated that Microsoft, which is based in Redmond, Washington state,
was located "in the state of Texas". Potential plaintiffs were listed as
buyers of Windows 2000, even though it had not yet gone on sale.

A complaint drafted by Krause and Kalfayan in San Diego suggested that
Microsoft was competing in the "generic drug market". This was because it was
drafted by replacing key words from a previous complaint against a
pharmaceutical company. Mr Gates has vowed to fight Judge Jackson's verdict
all the way to the Supreme Court, a process that could take more than two
years. He will also defend vigorously all class actions.

Although Judge Jackson's coruscating language led to a debate about whether
the eventual penalty imposed on Microsoft could be that it must be split up,
his stinging criticisms of the company's "oppressive thumb" and use of
"technological shackles" will help the class-action lawyers.

Peter Huber, of the Manhattan Institute think tank, argued in the Wall Street
Journal yesterday that an enforced break-up of the company was not the
biggest threat Mr Gates faced. He wrote: "Microsoft ought to be worrying even
more about the spectre of silicone breast implants or tobacco. In its
boundless capacity to pile on lawyers, and eventually damages, private
litigation can relentlessly sap corporate energy, cash and morale."

The London Telegraph, April 5, 2000 Ä D P´

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SkeptiNews 000405c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/04_04a_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No mental structures were harmed during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Tongue: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/395000/images/_399477_pierce300.jpg
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# CLUES TO SLEEP DISORDERS MAY LIE IN THE FLIES. Do flies sleep? While it is
  known that higher animals must snooze to survive, it has never been clear
  whether insects, such as fruit flies,require regular rest in order to per-
  form their biological functions. When we cross-breed humans & flies, we'll
  work forever: http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=29390

@ Shape-Shifting Reptilians & Their Cross-Breeds. The shape shifting process
  is initiated at a genetic level & the body's molecular/atomic consistency
 shifts from the inside out. After the process is triggered, the vibrational
  energy that binds together the molecules, releases or "unbinds" & reshapes
  the molecules to a genetically encoded form or "template" that is embedded
  deep within the animal gene itself. Zow! http://www.caus.org/pn040500.htm

: Have you created any human-X chimerae lately? Are they sleepless? Do ETs
ever rest? Do they consume vast amounts of amphetamines, cocaine, caffeine?
Is STARBUCKS a Reptilioid enterprise? Are humans transformed by cappuccino?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ANDRO LINKED TO PRIAPISM. One more strike against the bodybuilding hormone
  androstenedione.A man who had been taking it for a week came to an ER with
  a painful erection that had persisted for some 30 hours.Relationship buil-
  der? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=31106

# Cloned cow a first for Thailand - Team to tackle buffaloes next - then on
  to orangutans, humans: http://www.bangkokpost.com/today/040400_News06.html
@ ARE THE CHAT ROOMS CAUSING MY NERVES TO TINGLE? Or is this a normal reac-
  tion? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=31084
# SkeptiNews Editor Identified As Malevolent Entity! Seek & Destroy Now!
  Hurry! http://www.brunching.com/cgi/toy-cyborger.cgi?acronym=RICHARD

: Have you cloned/stimulated/identified any nonhuman entities lately? D'ya
reprogram (non)humans for your own purposes? D'ya take/apply/sell drugs that
promote interspecies breeding? Should you be destroyed? Should we all? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Did the Vikings make a telescope? (BBC) The Vikings could have been using
  a telescope hundreds of years before Dutch spectacle makers supposedly
  invented the device in the late 16th century. Sophisticated lenses:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_702000/702478.stm

# Also - World's oldest telescope? Brought here by aliens? Which ones?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_38/380186.stm
# New mirror for Ireland's 'Leviathan' telescope - spun by spiders:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_342000/342012.stm
# The smoothest surface in the world - and it's not a baby's butt:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_162000/162349.stm

: Have you rediscovered any ancient high technologies lately? Are they human
/alien/robotic/divine/insectoid/impossible? What's your fave old technology?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# US ARMY: 40 PERCENT OF HELICOPTERS 'CANNOT PERFORM MISSION'
  http://CNN.com/2000/US/04/04/army.helicopters.02/index.html
@ UPDATE - Echelon & Related Data Interception Capabilities 2000:
  http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/5604/data.html

@ TRACK,TAG & BUCKIES. My experience of being tracked closely & the research
  I have done leads me to conclude that it takes a combination of techniques
  to put it into full effect: http://www.geocities.com/wtmick/buckies.htm

# Is Bill G. bugging the Valley? http://sfbg.com/nessie/14.html
@ Virus Data: http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/
@ Free Antivirus Software: http://antivirus.cai.com/

: Have you intercepted/tracked/bugged any military/corporate/personal enti-
ties lately? Do you interfere in their missions? Are you well rewarded? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

$ SOUL FOR SALE! Anybody want my soul? I'll sell it to you for a measly
  $2000. I'm pretty sure I won't be needing it, so if you need one, just
  send me a check and I'll create an evil contract written in my own blood
  and sealed with goat snot. Of course the bonus is that when I realise the
  folly of my ways I will be desperate to get it back, and you can resell it
  to me at twice the price! [Note: this offer is not valid in Indiana --ed.]
  http://x45.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=605940233&CONTEXT=954941115.2032926725

@ How much could some guy's soul be worth, gi

[CTRL] Gore’s Miami connection"

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://msnbc.com/news/390287.asp?cp1=1
Click Here: http://msnbc.com/news/390287.asp?cp1=1">Gore’s Miami
connection
-
Gore’s Miami connection Democrats increasingly rely on Cuban-Americans’
campaign contributions
 By Robert Windrem
NBC NEWS PRODUCER April 3 —  Al Gore’s decision to go with the flow in Miami
and support a measure that would grant permanent resident status to
6-year-old Elian Gonzales, his father and other immediate relatives in Cuba
comes as no surprise to those who follow the vice president’s or Democratic
Party’s money trail.




Miami has been one of the few major metropolitan areas where Gore runs
neck-and-neck with Bush in terms of fund-raising.

   Nor does it come as any surprise to those who follow Miami’s
political powerhouse, the Cuban American National Foundation, or the big
Cuban-American sugar and liquor companies.

EVEN-HANDED IN CONTRIBUTIONS
   Although conventional wisdom paints the Cuban-American community as a
Reagan Republican stronghold, federal campaign records indicate otherwise.
The community is more even-handed in both its contributions and its political
leanings, writing checks to the Democrats for nearly $1 million in soft money
and political action committee donations since the 1996 election.

 U.S. plans to unite Elian and his father

   In fact, an NBC News analysis shows the Cuban-American community,
particularly the business and organized political sectors, has given more
money to the Democratic Party over the past three years than to Republicans.

   And individual Cuban-Americans, while generally giving more to the
Republicans than Democrats, are still significant givers to the Democrats and
to Gore. Of equal if not greater importance, its leadership is increasingly
comfortable with the Democratic Party.




   By agreeing with the community on the issue of Elian Gonzalez, Gore
was protecting that advantage.

   Beyond the Cuban community, Miami has been one of the few major
metropolitan areas where the vice president runs neck-and-neck with Texas
Governor George W. Bush in terms of fund raising, mostly due to the presence
of Democratic bastions in retirement communities along the Gold Coast.

   In the latest Federal Election Commission filings — though March 1 —
Gore has raised $428,425 in the Miami area, only $10,000 less than Bush.

‘They know they can’t win Florida, but they also know how much they need the
Cuban-Americans’ money. It’s not about winning Florida, it’s about money.’

— PAMELA FALK
Former Democratic congressional aide   Pamela Falk, a Queens College
Law School professor and a former Democratic congressional aide, said of the
Democrats, “They know they can’t win Florida, but they also know how much
they need the Cuban-Americans’ money. It’s not about winning Florida, it’s
about money.”

   The two biggest Cuban-American soft money givers —the Fanjul brothers’
sugar interests and the Bacardi liquor interests — give more money to the
Democratic Party than the Republicans.

   And over the past two years, the Free Cuba PAC, the largest political
action committee associated with the Cuban American National Foundation, has
given more money to Democratic candidates than to Republicans. Even among
individual Cubans, who it appears do give more to the Republicans than
Democrats, the advantage is not as large as one might believe, given the
rhetoric.

   The Clinton administration has gone to great lengths to court the
Miami Cubans, meeting with the foundation leadership on a regular basis,
first with founder Jorge Mas Canosa and then after his death in 1998 with his
son and successor, Jorge Mas Santos.

   One exile community leader said Clinton is more accessible than the
Bushes, either father or son. “With the Bushes, you had to go through levels
of the family. You had to talk to Jeb or someone else to get to President
Bush or now, George.”

ROLE OF MAS CANOSA
   Mas Canosa enjoyed his ability to lobby the White House. He also grew
to understand the value of divided loyalties. A big supporter of Ronald
Reagan both before and during his presidency, Mas Canosa “did not like
President Bush,” said one longtime friend, and began courting Clinton.


   As a result, the foundation and its associated PAC decided to be more
balanced in its approach. And although foundation leaders did not endorse
either Bush or Clinton in 1992 and did not endorse Clinton or Dole in 1996,
it became obvious to many in the community that the lack of any endorsement
amounted to a tacit endorsement of Clinton.

   The Democrats returned the favor, appointing one of the
Cuban-Americans’ favorites, Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, to head
the Democrats Senate campaign committee.
   Last week, said one exile leader, Mas Santos was on the phone “every
day for 10 days telling Gore it was time for the separation, time to cut the
umbilical 

[CTRL] Fwd: MPD

[Kris Millegan]

 

 New scientist 
   
 
 
Crowded minds 18 Dec 99 

Can one body harbour more than one personality? Robert Adler reveals how the
brain has been caught slipping from one identity to another

AT FIRST the unhappy 33-year-old-let's call her Marnie-didn't stand out from
the hundreds of patients that psychiatrist Don Condie saw every month at the
Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. Indeed, he treated Marnie for
depression for two-and-a-half years without ever suspecting her secret. Then
her mother died and Marnie began to reveal her true selves.

After her mother's death, Marnie became withdrawn and felt hopeless. She
hoarded her medicines, hinted at suicide and needed a spell in hospital.
While she was there Condie saw her, but instead of the depressed patient he
expected to see, he found himself talking to a bright, energetic and
optimistic woman-nothing like the usual Marnie. She even introduced herself
to him as if they hadn't met before, not as Marnie, but as Mimi. Mimi told
him that she could fool everyone by imitating Marnie so well that they
wouldn't notice the switch-even Marnie didn't know she existed.

Mimi gradually began to unveil Marnie's horrifying past, including years of
beatings, sexual abuse and psychological torment at the hands of her
alcoholic, criminally violent mother. Mimi explained that her job was to
deal with problems that were just too painful for Marnie, such as the
explosion of feelings unleashed by her mother's death. As he listened,
Condie realised that Marnie was suffering from something far more mysterious
and difficult to treat than depression-multiple personality disorder or MPD.

After years of therapy with Marnie, Mimi, and the several other
personalities that subsequently emerged, Condie teamed up with Guochuan
Tsai, a neurobiologist and brain imaging expert at the McLean Hospital in
Belmont, Massachusetts. They realised that, with Marnie's help, they could
do something nobody had done before-peer inside a human brain as it shrugs
off one identity and slips into another. Their findings are helping to piece
together a brain-based understanding of this mysterious,
personality-splintering disease.

A physical basis for MPD, and even the reality of the condition, is by no
means a given. Many psychiatrists, especially in Britain, think the disorder
is nonsense (New Scientist, 17 June 1995, p 14). They've seen it mutate over
the past decade from a condition so rare that most therapists never saw a
single case into a near epidemic, especially in North America. They scoff at
reports of patients who spin off hundreds or even thousands of
personalities.

Tom Fahy, a psychiatrist at the Maudsley Hospital, London, is one of the
critics who believe most MPD cases are the creation of misguided therapists.
Through the use of hypnosis, drugs and group pressure, he suspects,
aggressive therapists persuade vulnerable patients into believing and acting
as multiples. Other critics say MPD is trumped up by attention-seeking
patients, or by criminals trying to dodge responsibility for their crimes.

But after years of debate, Fahy wants to move on. "It's silly to argue
whether it exists or not," he says. "You can't deny that MPD patients exist.
The question is, how has this patient got into such a bizarre mental state?"
While Fahy is looking primarily to cultural causes, Condie and Tsai chose to
address the question by studying Marnie's brain in action.

Therapists who believe in MPD have developed a more or less consistent
psychological explanation, that it is the mind's escape from unendurable
childhood abuse, usually before the age of five-an explanation popularised
by the film Sybil. "It's chronic trauma," says Condie, "where you know
you're going to be abused over and over again, by the same person, and
there's no escape. The only escape is inside your own mind."

But if it is a form of escape, then surely it is like escaping into a
nightmare. Imagine competing for control of mind and body, not to mention
your home and bank balance with a terrified child, strangers with different
sexual proclivities, and a collection of hostile or suicidal toughs. You
never meet them and don't know what they're up to, although some of them
know all about you. But you find their clothes in your closet, you're blamed
for their bad behaviour and you have to clean up the messes they make. And
even when you manage to stay in charge, you're plagued by them arguing,
shouting or crying inside your head. No wonder Marnie, like most people with
MPD, hid this terrifying reality for years.

But how in escaping does one personality fragment into many others? Some
theorists suggest that the overwhelming stress of living such a chaotically
divided life tears at the fragile web of a child's developing memory, so the
child cannot weave experiences together into a coherent whole. Instead,
islands of memory and behavioural traits develop independently. Eventually
they emerge as autonomous personalities co

Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus

[Tara]

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 -Cui Bono?-

I think that this is the only time I've ever disagreed with you Bill. But I
have to say ON THE MONEY, David! (And nice to see you again!

@(*o*)@

Tara

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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus


BUUURP!!!

This entire piece is a pile of contradictory twaddle!

Perhaps old darkness - rather than any "new light".

Jesus, from all accounts, was not an "extremist" - rather He "ate and drank"
with "sinners" and Pharisee's alike.

It was the religionist "scholars" and "rabbis" of the day that were that
were the "extremists"!

The notion of the "messiahs" suffering and death was prophesied centuries
before the birth of Christ - it was NOT a "new" paradigm that merely popped
up in Jesus day.

The attempt to "link" Jesus with some Esoteric, or Know-Nothing-Gnostic
sect, Essenes, and et al, or Eastern foolosophy has been engaged in for
centuries by self-proclaimed gurus, swamis, priests, and cranks masquerading
as "scholars".

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@ Run, Salariman, Run! http://www.geocities.co.jp/Milano/2255/dash02.gif
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Flying Triangle UFOs: ME, AL, KY & UK: http://www.caus.org/ft040500.htm
# Recent Pennsylvania UFO Reports: Ross Township, Pittsburgh - - Shadyside,
  Pittsburgh - Gans, Fayette County: http://sightings.com/general/penufo.htm

@ Space Shuttle Tether UFO Visitors Evidence Grows - What's wrong with the
  explanations? What's been suppressed? http://www.ufomag.co.uk/DEBATE01.htm
@ Hangar 18 At Wright-Patterson - Fact Or Fiction? Are the Roswell debris in
  Hangar 23? http://home.earthlink.net/~rcollins637/reports/wp_hangar18.htm

: Have you observed/acquired/analyzed any alien artifacts lately? Have they
taken over your higher/medium/lower thought-processes? Are you quite happy?

# Defending Our Planet - Arizona Observatory Is Main Link in Earth Defense -
  Alien Attacks Must Be Fought: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9623497
# ALIEN DEVICE  DISSEMINATED BY MILLER BEER
  COMPANY  FOR TOTAL HUMAN MIND-CONTROL!
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MAN QUESTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH THEFT OF NAZI SPY MACHINE. A 50-year-old
  man was being questioned by British police in connection with the theft of
  a World War II encoding machine, police said. The machine, a device called
  Enigma that was used by the Nazis to send top secret messages, was stolen
  from a glass cabinet at the Bletchley Park museum, northwest of London.
  http://CNN.com/2000/WORLD/europe/04/05/Britain.enigma/index.html

@ CIA Mj-12 Memos on Project Aquarius? On EBE-2? On IACs?
  http://home.earthlink.net/~rcollins637/reports/mj12_cia_aquariusmemos.htm
  http://home.sprintmail.com/~rigoletto/reports/mj12_ebe2_cia_mj12_memos.htm
  http://home.sprintmail.com/~rigoletto/reports/mj12_cia_iacmemos.htm
@ TOP SECRET/MJ-12 Directive Draft Memo?
  http://home.earthlink.net/~rcollins637/reports/mj12_directive_memo.htm

: Have you appropriated any intelligence/indoctrination devices/information
lately? Do your alien masters require the return of all such materials? How
will they use such materials? Will all alien technologies be repossessed??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Visions 21 - WILL WE LIVE ON MARS? WILL WE TRAVEL TO THE STARS? WILL WE
  TRAVEL BACK (OR FORWARD) IN TIME? WILL SOMEONE BUILD A PERPETUAL-MOTION
  MACHINE? WILL WE MEET E.T.? WILL A KILLER ASTEROID HIT THE EARTH? HOW WILL
  THE UNIVERSE END? WILL WE DISCOVER ANOTHER UNIVERSE? WILL THE MIND FIGURE
  OUT HOW THE BRAIN WORKS? WILL WE HAVE A FINAL THEORY OF EVERYTHING?WILL WE
  FIGURE OUT HOW LIFE BEGAN? WILL WE CLONE A DINOSAUR?WILL WE KEEP EVOLVING?
  WILL ANYONE EVER RUN A 3-MINUTE MILE? WILL WE CONTROL THE WEATHER? CAN WE
  SAVE CALIFORNIA? WILL WE EVER TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT? ...REACH
  ABSOLUTE ZERO? ...GET RID OF COCKROACHES? WILL THERE BE ANYTHING LEFT TO
  DISCOVER? http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,42354,00.html

: Should we travel to Mars, to the stars, thru time? Should we save Earth,
California, cockroaches? Should we clone dinosaurs, humans, cockroaches?
Will we do all this stuff whether we *should* or not? Will aliens stop us?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Rice code boosts GM prospects. (BBC) US biotech giant Monsanto says it
  has almost finished decoding the genetic blueprint of rice. Any day now:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_701000/701874.stm

# Also - GM super rice unveiled - walks, talks, computes trigonometry:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_695000/695589.stm
# Yellow rice gives dietary boost - then devours victims from inside:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_602000/602112.stm
# Lab plant makes history - foils French invasion of England, Wales:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_566000/566183.stm

: Have you developed any superplants lately? Have you decoded their DNA? Are
they smarter/faster/deadlier than you? Will they replace humanity very soon?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Motion Of Massive Antarctic Ice Berg Causes Another Huge Berg To "Calve."
  The gyrations of an enormous iceberg that broke free of the Ross Ice Shelf
  in Antarctica last week have loosened another large iceberg, and "calving"
  of additional bergs may continue in coming weeks due to the ebb & flow of
  ocean tides. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000404210240.htm

# PLANETS LINE UP: http://www.CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/04/04/planets.align/
# 

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

[Nurev Ind Research]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> re your last point as to who might be the REAL Israelites? Well, that
> depends on which group of Jews is allowed to excommunicate the
> other. Paul/Saul continued to call himself the "Jew of Tarsus". After the
> crucifixion of Jesus Christ there was an immediate schism among the
> Jews. Some were Pro-Christ and some were Anti-Christ.

There were schisms among the Jews, but not about Jesus. There was schism among
the followers
of Paul and the followers of James. After Jesus was executed by the Romans
he and his movement became irrelevant. He was dead and the Romans were still
in control of the holy land. The Messiah was to remedy that situation. This
was final proof that Jesus was not THE Messiah, because the bible said that
the kingdom of god would be upon them and peace would reign throughout the
world. Not only did that not happen, but the opposite happened.

> Jesus Christ,
> Himself allowed no middle ground, saying, "You are for me or against me".

Jesus never said that. The New Testament said that. And we know how reliable
the NT is as an historical document don't we?

> You have posted yourself, J2, that this differentiation of Pro-Christ and
> Anti-Christ Jews is valid
> and that it is Anti-Christ Jews who dominate
> Israel etc. So I didn't make this up or infer it.

Of course you made it up dipshit. You think Jews define themselves by your
fevered fantasies? Do you think when Jews get together at a Bar mitzvah they
are seated at tables for Pro- Christ or anti-Christ Jews? Are you nuts?

> You agree that
> Anti-Christ Jews is a self-description of a segment of the "global
> village". I guess it is pretty obvious. I mean just ask Barak et al if
> they are Pro-Christ or Anti-Christ Jews and what will they say?

This is totally incoherent Poley.

>Over time, the Pro-Christ Jews stopped calling themselves Jews.

What are you talking about?

> By
> analogy few Englishmen today call themselves Anglo-Saxon. The phrase
> evolves into disuse. But the Pro-Christ vs. Anti-Christ Jews issue
> resurfaces (history repeats itself) with "Jews for Jesus" and similar
> converts who say they are 100% Jewish still and 100% Christian.

And they are lucky that a genius like you is capable of understanding such
a brilliant claim. They are 200% smarter than you perhaps, but we know how
to count. They are 100% Christian. And you can keep them all 100% of them.
Omayn.

They can say that they are the Aurora Borealis. They are not Jews. They are
Christian converts. The worship of a human as a deity IS NOT JEWISH. That's
the clue Poley.

>  Which side
> do the Grahams, Falwells, Robertsons and Van Imps weigh in on mindful that
> Jesus Christ Himself disallowed fence sitting? I think it is becoming ever
> more clear that these are supporters, not only of Anti-Christ Jews but THE
> Anti-Christ because they have willingness to spell out the culture x
> (society/nation/civilization) which does "all for the glory of God". (I
> Cor. 10:31).

We take no responsibility for these guys Poley. They're yours.

> Keep blowing that horn, Joshua II. You are having the desired
> and highly predictable effect!
> FWP.

Excellent. As long as we understand each other.

You are like a retorted parrot Poley. Repeating the same old shit over
and over again. Do you ever learn anything? Do you ever have an original
thought? Does anyone take you seriously? If so , who?

Just curious.

Joshua2

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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1 - MRML special

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 I know that even the least technically minded will appreciate this
information about a new HTML. Something really ground breaking in mark up
languages has just been announced - MRML. This is obviously going to make
a big impression on impressionable people. You all know about HTML, VRML,
XML and SGML but now you'll have to get to grips with MRML.


A Guide to MRML
The Mind Reading Markup Language (MRML /mur'mul/) is a proprietary extension
of the HyperText Markup Language. This document, all MRML tags, and any
ideas you come up with while reading this information are the exclusive
property of the authors. This is an open specification that will be expanded
as mind control technology is refined.

MRML tags can be embedded into any regular HTML document. They are
complet-ely invisible to all browsers. No one will ever know you are using
them.

NOTE: MRML is not case sensitive.  is equivalent to  or
.

Basic Markup Tags
The following MRML tags are used to read the client's mind for certain kinds
of thoughts and emotions about the contained text.


Brainscan performs a light scan of the client's thoughts which may include
perceptions of their current environment. The Brainscan tag is an invaluable
tool for establishing a user's identity as it is much more reliable than
checking REMOTE_HOST or USER_ID variables.


Thoughtsuck performs of deeper scan of the client's thoughts which may
included details of significant events within the past 24 hours.

subject
Probes the client's mind for their fears about the contained subject.

subject
Probes the client's mind for their deeper, more repressed fears about the
contained subject.

subject
Probes the client's mind for their deepest, most repressed fears about the
contained subject. WARNING: This tag cannot be exported outside US borders.

subject
Probes the client's mind for sexual thoughts about the contained subject.
Use of the Sexthoughts tag will likely be depreciated with the release of
the Freud and Jung specifications. Freud and Jung Tags Specifications for
Freudian id, ego, and superego tags and Jungian symbolic tags are not
currently available.

The HYPNOTIZE Tag
Current technology enables very primitive mind control using MRML tags.
The so-called Brainwashing tags are delimited by the the special

 pair. Suggestions within the Hypnotize area are
completely invisible to all clients, but it is extremely important that the
tags are placed correctly. You are liable for any mental damages inflicted
by improperly placed tags.

HYPNOTIZE Area Tags
Within the  area the following tags may be used:

text
Used for mild, easily acceptable suggestions. For stronger suggestions use
PROGRAM and BELIEVE.
Some examples:
It is warm for this time of year.
You need to upgrade your computer.
Republican policies aren't all that bad.

text
Information that you want the client to pass on to friends and
correspondents.
Some popular memes:
Chain letters
Urban legends
Cool ascii graphics

text
Things you want the client to forget. It may be desirable to have the client
forget the URL of your MRML documents.

text
Programs the client with a strong post-hypnotic suggestion. There are a few
optional arguments.

 will trigger
the suggestions three times at a one hour interval two days hence.

 could trigger the suggestion
brush your teeth for an indefinite time.
Within the  area the following tags may be used:

text
Explicit thoughts to be planted in the client's mind. Beware of
contradictory programming! Try to remove previous conceptions before
reprogramming.
To reprogram someone that thinks that Pepsi is better than Coke:
#You have no opinions about the relationship between Coke
and Pepsi.
#Coke is better than Pepsi.
#You are thirsty.
 Encourages the client to buy products on the World Wide Web.
The optional ITEM=item argument may be used.


A convenient way to access the client's mind for future programming
sessions. Should only be used with a secure client-server
connection.

Clarification: The BLINK Tag
The  tag used in many popular browsers is not a MRML specified tag.

Running Your Own MRML Server
The software needed to run a MRML-oriented server is freely available to all
persons and institutions. To obtain a copy of the server software a
representative for you or your company must attend a special 3-day training
session where they will be given the MRML software package. These training
sessions are currently being held twice a month at an undisclosed lo

[CTRL] UK gay [homo] website shutdown; content dispute

[Bard]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/Digital/Update/2000-04/website040400.shtml

Bard

There's not a dime bit of difference
between a Demo and a Repub;
just two wings of the same bird of prey.
-- Patrick J. Buchanan


I know there is a God and I know he hates injustice.
I see the storm coming and I know His hand is in it.
But if there is a place and a part for me,
I believe that I am  ready.
-- Patrick J. Buchanan
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Website closed in wake of libel verdict



By Charles Arthur




4 April 2000


A gay current affairs magazine has had its website shut down by its internet service provider, the first casualty of a libel case settled four days ago that could stifle free speech on the net in Britain.

The entire site of Outcast, edited by Chris Morris, was closed by Netbenefit, the ISP which hosted – but did not control – its content. The removal followed legal letters from another gay publication, the Pink Paper, which said a proposed article in Outcast was defamatory and libellous of the Paper and its chairman, Kelvin Sollis.

But Netbenefit took the site down after an examination of Outcast's entire online content, prompted by the letters, said Alison Sparshatt, the company's managing director.

That follows last Friday's legal settlement when the ISP Demon Internet agreed to pay £15,000 in damages and £230,000 in legal costs to Dr Laurence Godfrey, a British physicist who said he had been defamed by two anonymous messages on the Net.

Last year a judge ruled that because Dr Godfrey had contacted Demon, the company could not claim it was simply a carrier of the messages and unable to control their content.

The Demon case "is very serious for ISPs because it means they have to err on the side of caution and will remove content rather than face the threat of legal action," said Nicholas Lansman, secretary-general of the Internet Services Providers Association (ISPA).

ISPs want the Government to change the law so they are not liable for content they carry, in the way that phone companies are not responsible for slander over the phone.

















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