[CTRL] Forgotten aspect of slavery

2000-06-07 Thread John Taylor

COMPLICITY 101


BY

DENNIS RAITT


Although the "politically correct" academia, the NAACP and it’s Hate-the-
South media allies continue their quest to revise and sanitize Southern
history, it is refreshing to find an individual like Larry Koger. Mr. Koger
holds an M.A. in history from Howard University where he researched his
book: Black Slaveowners, Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina,
1790-1860.

"Most Americans, black and white, believe that slavery was a system
exclusively maintained by whites to exploit black people. But in fact black
Americans played a role in the annals of the ‘peculiar institution’ as slave
masters. Many blacks of the antebellum period believed that slavery and the
exploitation of their own people was a viable economic system for profit. In
Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more
than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830.

Many black masters were large planters who owned scores of slaves and
planted large quantities of cotton, rice, and cane sugar. Not all black
masters were planters, many were craftsmen and artisans. The institution of
black slave owning was widespread, stretching as far north as New York and
as far south as Florida, extending westward into Kentucky, Mississippi,
Louisiana and Missouri.

Many black masters were former slaves, many being emancipated for
meritorious military duty, faithful service, saving a life, and other such
reasons. Basically stated, they arose from slavery to freedom to slaveowner.
Once freed, they obtained slaves through inheritance or purchase, including
those of their immediate families. Free blacks not only used slave labor to
work in farming, but also purchased slaves to work in their businesses as
skilled and unskilled laborers. Others hired out their slaves to
non-slaveowners and appropriated the proceeds to help themselves. The
attitudes and actions of black masters were much the same as white
slaveowners.

From the U.S. census, just around Charleston, South Carolina, the percentage
of free black slaveowners increased from 25% in 1830 to 92% in 1860. Just
between 1800 and 1820, the number of black masters increased by 411%.
Another census showed an increase and then a decline in the percentage of
female black slaveowners from 71% in 1820 to 58% in 1864. Perhaps the most
striking fact about the statistics complied from the federal census is that
42% of the slaves held by free blacks were females between the ages of 10
and 54.

In short, the economic benefits of slavery stimulated ex-slaves to buy
slaves to be utilized as laborers or hired out. In a society where slavery
was an accepted form of labor, not the racism blamed today, it was not
surprising that former slaves exploited the vast reservoir of slave labor.
They viewed slavery as a viable and legitimate institution which could be
used for investment purposes in producing more wealth.

Like the white man, black masters had to deal with all types of disciplinary
problems which required the need to place advertisements in local newspapers
for the return of their runaway slaves, placing disobedient slaves in the
city jail or workhouse, flogging, and sale on the auction block.

Life of the slaves under black ownership was not much different from the
life of slaves held by white planters. In either case, the slaves usually
worked from 8 to 10 hours a day, with Sundays and customary holidays off.

Although the black planters did not pay their slaves, they provided food,
clothing, medical care and shelter as did the whites. Also the mandatory
slave tax was paid yearly.

In the antebellum south, a network of personal relationships developed
between the black elite and the whites. Often the face-to-face,
person-to-person contacts permitted Southern whites to see each other as men
and women. Free blacks not only attended church with whites but often lived
a few doors down. Many of the well-to-do free blacks owned homes,
plantations and slaves. They made legal contracts and filed lawsuits to
protect their property.

As the antislavery movement in the 1850’s intensified, many black
slaveowners began to doubt the continued existence of slavery. Rather than
bequeath the slaves to their children, they began to liquidate their human
chattel and gave the proceeds from the sales to their beloved ones.

By 1863, as the War for Southern Independence began to worsen, it was
becoming apparent that it was only a matter of time before their valuable
slave property would be freed. By this time it was hard if not impossible to
find a willing buyer. Thus after the war, like their white counterparts, the
newly freed slaves would work the land, not for wages, but for food, shelter
and clothing. In essence the only major difference between the antebellum
arrangements and the Reconstruction contracts was the distinction between
forced labor and a quasi-voluntary system which developed after slavery."

So the next time the NAACP and the leftist-media 

Re: [CTRL] Get ready . . . for a wild ride . . .

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

Might I say that I concur.  Things are definitely heating up in many areas, not the 
least of which is right here at home on CTRL.  There is finally some momentum that I 
see for real change to happen in the wider world.
As for agendas, everyone has them, and everyone has their own pet theories they try to 
peddle.  I am among that number myself.  I try to be objective but my prejudices as to 
source and speculation will show to any who read my posts regularly.  BUT I do try to 
be up front about it at least, and dismiss no one or no information out of hand.  I 
definitely try to be circumspect in how I handle people and information presented here.
Kris, I do hope that you will be able to give us some of the best "dope" you can on 
the symposium this weekend, I am anxious to hear what some of the heavyweights you 
have in attendance have to contribute on the subject.


On Tue, 06 June 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:


 Howdy all,
 The level of propaganda and dis/mis is rising. The "psychological sets" are
 thick.  And this list is all ready seeing the effects of this campaign. As to
 whether some listees are actual "agents" make no difference as the
 affectation is easily spread by ignorance, prejudice and self-aggrandizement.

 But as the "passion-play" of our staged elections works its course, I suspect
 all levers will be put inti play  -- as the power of the internet and
 knowledge and understanding undermine the "boys" ability to play their
 "games."

 All the bullets will be pumped into our collective gut, sides to be hardened
 and moved closer and closer towards state/economic-control.

 Expect this list and "life in the mainstream" to be journey through
 provocateurs and much bullcrap. Our list cohesion and various views upon
 subjects will by assaulted by folks trying to bring some "orthodoxy" to our
 anarchy of understanding.

 We are all adults, and except for ctrl's disclaimer topics,  I am not going
 to start chosing one viewpoint  or posters over others.

 Do let us keep it civil, please.

 After the CIA-Drugs Symposium this weekend I will be able to begin posting
 some more excerpts.

 Om
 K


 Om
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

2000-06-07 Thread Ric Carter

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Re: [CTRL] UFOs and the Military

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

On Tue, 06 June 2000, DIG alfred webre wrote:


 From Armageddon or New Age:
  - Original Message -
  From: "James A Gilliland" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:58 PM
  Subject: UFOs and the Military


  There is a military mindset concerning the subject of UFOs which no longer
  serves the interest of national security or the people. It is time to lay
  this mindset to rest. For centuries, we have taken our finest minds and
  employed them within the military industry, directing them to create the
  most powerful weapons of mass destruction and the most virulent biologicals
  possible. Under the leadership of the military industry, we are evolving
  into one of the most deadly civilizations known to man. We already have the
  destructive potential to destroy all life on the planet and are now playing
  with technologies that have the potential to create a black hole, destroying
  not only the Earth, but all life up to 50,000 light years away..

  Now what does this have to do with national security?

  Is this where we want to go as a civilization?

  What if one of their little experiments creates a cascade effect; a little
  virus or bacteria escapes the lab?

  The mind set is "we must have military superiority over everyone and
  everything". If we cannot have superiority, dominance and complete control
  we must must destroy it. One of the problems with this mindset is our
  weapons of mass destruction and biologicals seem to mysteriously fall into
  the hands of the so called enemy when enough money is transferred to the
  right people..

  This military mindset is the one we have allowed to engage off world
  visitors. Off world visitors with interstellar and interdimensional
  capabilities that have the weaponry to turn this planet into a cinder if so
  desired. Now don't you feel real secure knowing our government is shooting
  at them with back-engineered late model technology? Luckily our off world
  visitors are benevolent, understand primitive cultures and for the most
  part,  take the high road staying out of reach.


Let us assume for a moment that there really ARE aliens here.  What kind of evidence 
is there that they have the power to destroy our Earth to a cinder, that we are 
shooting at them with back engineered weaponry, and that they are good or benevolent 
in any way?  Please enlighten us all with this profundity.

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[CTRL] Shipboard Abortions Planned For 3rd World Women

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

Top News Headlines June 6, 2000 -- 8:56 PM


Shipboard Abortions Planned For Third World Women

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CNSNews) -- Pregnant women in mostly Third World
nations where abortions are illegal will be offered abortions onboard a ship
sailing outside those countries' territorial waters, if a Dutch doctor has
her way.

Dr. Rebecca Gomperts, founder of a group called Women on Waves, has
announced her intention to outfit and sail a 50-meter ship around the world
to offer abortions to women.

Women will be picked up in ports, and taken to international waters where
the abortions will be carried out in a floating clinic called Sea Change.

While in harbor, the ship would also provide contraceptives and workshops,
and train local doctors in giving abortions, according to information on the
organization's Website.

Its staff would also seek to influence the authorities in the target
countries to adopt Dutch policies. "Due to sexual education, accessibility
of contraception and legal abortion, our country has the world's lowest
abortion rate," Gomperts is quoted as saying.

Gomperts is the former ship's doctor on the Rainbow Warrior, a vessel
belonging to the environmental activist organization Greenpeace.

While sailing on the ship she learned of problems relating to abortions in
South America. She said she was shocked to learn about the large numbers of
women who die each year during or after abortions.

"Of the 53 million abortions done annually worldwide, 20 million are illegal
and unsafe, with the result that at least 70,000 women die each year
unnecessarily."

Having witnessed "the impact that Greenpeace's methods can have" Gomperts
said she realized similar methods could be used to provide abortions in
international waters.

Explaining how the envisaged program would work, she said, "Women
organizations in the concerned countries will have to show the pregnant
woman the way to the harbor where the abortion boat is moored."

The ship would then sail out of territorial waters - usually about 12 miles
offshore - where the abortions would be carried out.

Gomperts told a Dutch newspaper, NRC Handelsblad, that if the government of
any particular country objected to the activity and ordered the ship to
leave the quayside, "small motor boats will bring our clients to the
abortion boat on open sea. There we can go to work."

Asked by the paper about expected opposition from pro-life groups, she said:
"I don't care much about them either. I don't have moral problems with
abortion; it is assistance, that's it. A fetus that can't survive on it's
own outside the mother's womb is in my view not a child."

In response to queries sent to her, Gomperts said Friday public response to
the plan had been mostly positive, "to some extent due to the fact that
there is only a very limited anti-choice movement in the Netherlands."

Recently, however, "the pace of the occasional anti-choice reaction has
begun to pick up, almost all of which has come, symptomatically, from the
United States."

That reaction includes a statement from the president of the American Life
League, Judie Brown, who called the group "pirate abortionists."

Brown said in a statement that Women on Waves would be "circumventing the
sovereign rights of nations by carrying women offshore to kill their
children.

"The human rights of poor women of color, who want and need basic health
care, are being plundered. The international community should be outraged
..."

Brown also questioned the possibility of a "safe abortion" being carried out
at sea.

"These women may literally end up being shark bait, along with the mortal
remains of their babies. This is an outrage of the highest order which must
be stopped."

Gomperts clearly expects opposition in some ports.

"If we keep the time and date of departure secret to the public, we can
hopefully prevent any major public intervention.

"In response to the potential for violent acts, we realize that we will have
to be very vigilant - and have therefore included security as a significant
item in the ship's budget." Doctors and patients would also be provided with
bullet-proof vests.

Gomperts is aware of the peculiar risks ships carry. The Rainbow Warrior was
destroyed ten years ago while in harbor in New Zealand. French agents bombed
the ship because Greenpeace was protesting and complicating French nuclear
tests in the South Pacific.

Woman on Waves hopes the project will be up and running as soon as
sufficient funding has been obtained. The group needs around $1 million to
buy and outfit the ship, which will be large enough to provide accommodation
for five crew and 25 patients, and some $500,000 a year to operate it.

She told NRC Handelsblad: "If we perform one hundred abortions each week
during ten months per year, each intervention will cost only one hundred
dollar to make the project self-supporting. If we can get enough donations
we can do the interventions without charge. The enterprise will be on a

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense.  I have no 
qualms at all about accepting that it is POSSIBLE that there are beings, that are 
normally incorpreal to us, and cannot be sensed under normal circumstances, who occupy 
other dimensions which are physically coterminus with the space we occupy now.  As 
such I believe it is possible that there are extradimensional beings.  As for where 
they would come from; they could be the product of their own evolutionary path, and 
perhaps the space they occupy in their dimension is unique in ways that ours is that 
allowed life to develop there as well.  They could be spiritual, or more evolved 
beings who have voluntarily removed themselves from our dimension ( or have been 
involuntarily removed to a prison dimension by more powerful forces or beings).  
Sometimes under certain conditions they may be percieved or interact with us.  Or they 
may have technology, or we may have technology that can open gateways between the 
dimensions which would allow interaction of various kinds.  This is all speculation 
mind you.  What their purpose is, I cannot say except it would certainly help to know 
their exact nature before one could postulate what it is they are doing and their 
motivation for doing it.
I would like to hear a better definition of the ULTRA in ultraterrestrial before 
speculating further on that term though.


On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
  More to come!



 Yeah. Let's kick this one around for a while. But let's keep speculation
 and facts seperate and labeled. Let's also keep in mind that there needs
 be no exclusionary hypothesis. There could be military intelligence behind
 some abductions and ETs behind others (a la "Jose Chung") and yet more
 could be the work of the "Ultraterrestrials."

 So, if there ARE "ultraterrestrials," where could they could have come
 from? How far must we revise our concept of physics to account for their
 reported activities? What might their plans and motives be?

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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

See my comments inserted below.


On Tue, 06 June 2000, "Samantha L." wrote:


 In a message dated 6/6/00 7:35:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What makes me believe there are genuine ET contacts occurring (with or
without black op intrusion as well) is the remarkable spiritual
 awakenings
  so
many are having.  As subjective is this is, I just don't believe that
 evil
intentions can awaken deep spiritual truths.

   But that has no bearing on whether these entities are physical beings from
   another planet.

   Huh?  First, I said extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional.  If not ED or ET
 then the alternative would be that covert military ops are undertaking
 disinformation campaigns which have the purpose or the side-effect of causing
 spiritual awakening.  That would be rather like my dog preparing a a fine
 gourmet meal.  What an intriguing idea.

See my earlier post for a comment on this particular question.

   Why do you presume that physical beings from another planet would be
 'good'
  in
   the moral sense?  Why would ETs magically be able to 'awaken deep spiritual
   truths'?  Does coming from another planet magically bestow divinity?

   I personally believe that yes, beings from elsewhere in the universe
 visiting here would be, by definition, moral and enlightened beings - that
 there is a fail-safe-clause in the ordered universe that allows only beings
 of a certain spiritual level to achieve certain technologies.  If one thinks
 of imagination as having a direct correlation to
 inventiveness, then this is not so far-fetched.  There are pathways of
 thinking in the creative sense which are closed to darker minds.  There
 simply is not the access to a great expanse of ideas in psychologically
 unhealthy and repressed beings.  Or that lesser beings, of a barbaric nature,
 might achieve some technologies but be prevented from using them outside
 their zone.  I postulate that this is indeed an organized universe with
 rules, regulations and heirarchies, and no, I have no evidence for such..
 So it wouldn't be that divinity is magically bestowed, but that to be free to
 roam the universe, a civilization would have to achieve a certain level of
 enlightenment first in order that harm might not spread.


I must admit that your idea has a certain something to it that makes me wonder, 
but then again it is just a theory you have.  There really is no justification for 
the idea, though it would be great if we could be assured that only good and kind 
moral beings would come to us.

   If 'contact' is occurring, it could just as likely be with
 extra-dimensional
   beings that have been here all along, and aren't from outerspace.  And
 these
   beings could just as easily be 'evil', and conning the easily duped into
   believing that they are 'good'

   If they are extra-dimensional, how logical is it to postulate that they may
 have been here all along, when we don't even understand the nature of
 extra-dimensions?  Where is the "here" in the "extra-dimensional beings that
 have been here all along?  Cleveland?  They could be evil, duping people into
 believing in their goodness.  They could be evil and accidentally causing
 spiritual awakening.  I don't think it's very likely.  Is there some evidence
 for the presumption that if extra-dimensional beings exist that they are all
 evil?


Nothing says they all have to be evil, but nothing says they all have to be good 
either.  If there are beings of an extradimensional nature around there is no reason 
to presume that they haven't been here for a long time, at least as long as we have.  
As for "where are they", they could be all around you and even occupying the same 
space as you do, only non-percievable (except under certain circumstances perhaps), 
and non-experiential (at least normally), because they occupy a different dimensional 
realm within the same space as we occupy in our "third" dimensional realm.  It would 
be more plausible to presume that such entities if they exist, are in fact neutral or 
indifferent to us in a moral sense, and any interaction they have would be for their 
own interests and they would be oblivious to us or our desires, fears, etc., rather 
than that they are moral in any sense that we understand, whether good or evil.  That 
seems logical to me, but hey, that's just me.
  There is a difference in depth between an mc experience and a
 spiritual
  one
- the flavors and tones are distinct - though sometimes off only by a few
degrees.

   This is a subjective analysis, and is not evidence.

   Well wonders never cease.  You figured that out all by yourself?

 Samantha

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[CTRL] Justice Department was ignoring reliable evidence

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Fund-Raising Probe Sparks Debate

By Pete Yost
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, June 6, 2000; 3:54 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON ­­ In a memo kept secret for 21Ž2 years, FBI Director
Louis Freeh warned that the Justice Department was ignoring
"reliable evidence" that conflicted with Al Gore's accounts of
his fund-raising activities.

Freeh sent the November 1997 memo, written by staff at his
request, to Attorney General Janet Reno to urge appointment of an
independent counsel to investigate Democratic fund raising.

"In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president was a
very active, sophisticated fund-raiser who knew exactly what he
was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given undue
weight," the Freeh memo said.

It preceded a better-known, and more scrutinized, memo by the
chief prosecutor in the case, Charles LaBella, who urged the same
action and also accused his Justice Department superiors of
contorting their investigation to avoid triggering an independent
counsel.

The memos were released by a House committee today as Republicans
in both chambers of Congress examined why a special prosecutor
was never appointed.

"Can you blame the American people or many in Congress for being
cynical?" House Government Reform Committee chairman Dan Burton,
R-Ind., asked after reading from the memos.

The FBI director said the Justice Department's preoccupation with
bit players should be replaced by a top-down investigation
starting with President Clinton and a "core group" of aides under
the theory that "most of the alleged campaign abuses flowed
directly or indirectly from the all-out efforts by the White
House and DNC (Democratic National Committee) to raise money."

Freeh's memo focused in part on fund-raising phone calls Gore
made from his government office. The vice president denied that
he intended to raise "hard money," which is regulated by federal
laws prohibiting solicitations on federal property.

The director's memo suggested the Justice Department was "relying
almost exclusively on the vice president's own statements to draw
inferences favorable to him even where those statement are
contradicted by other reliable evidence."

"If the attorney general relied primarily" on Gore's "statements
to end this investigation, she would be inviting intense and
justified criticism," the memo said.

In a memo responding to that allegation, Lee Radek, the chief of
the department's public integrity section who dealt with
independent counsel issues, said the Justice Department didn't
rely solely on Gore's word.

The conclusion that Gore's phone calls were to solicit "soft
money," outside the scope of the law, was based on "hundreds of
interviews with those who participated in the calls, and the
examination of scores of documents," Radek wrote in a memo also
released today. And the law in question is seldom prosecuted, he
said.

In his own 94-page memo, prosecutor LaBella complained that his
Justice Department superiors were "intellectually dishonest" and
practiced "gamesmanship" to avoid an independent counsel
investigation of President Clinton's and Gore's 1996 fund
raising.

Radek called those allegations "preposterous."

"The authors' attribution of bad faith to those of us who have
disagreed with them on various issues is nothing short of
shocking," Radek wrote.

LaBella's memo also said the re-election campaign "was so
corrupted by bloated fund raising and questionable
'contributions' that the system became a caricature of itself."
He wrote the memo on July 16, 1998, as he was preparing to leave
as head of the campaign fund-raising task force.

Word of LaBella's memo leaked to the media a week after he wrote
it, but Reno resisted demands from congressional Republicans to
release it until recently, saying investigative documents should
be kept confidential.

LaBella and Freeh argued that the Justice Department had failed
to adequately investigate allegations by the government-reform
group Common Cause that Clinton controlled a Democratic Party
advertising campaign and used it illegally to support his
re-election.

Those "arguably are the most serious" allegations," Freeh's memo
said.

LaBella wrote that the department's handling of the Common Cause
allegations "has been marked by gamesmanship rather than an
evenhanded analysis." He said Justice officials were "hostile" to
the idea of seeking an independent counsel and "had to find a
theory upon which we could avoid conducting an investigation."

Radek responded that Reno addressed the Common Cause issue
"squarely" and decided the law wasn't broken.


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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-07 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:


What does it show us?  That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in
fact may be one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is
carried out in the first place



On the other hand, it is not at all uncommon for people who have been
througha psychologically traumatic experience to process it as a life
changing event. I myself had a a couple near death experiences at an
impressionable age and I'm a totally different person today than I would
have been had they not happened. It didn't make me spiritual, but it sure
did make me philosophical. Get shot, crash a bike, survive cancer, watch a
friend die, lose your house to fire, get married, get divorced, have a
kid, get arrested. Any of these things have the potential to turn a person
spiritual. I've seen it happen. I dare say that if I honestly thought I'd
been abducted by aliens I'd be a different guy later no matter what
actually happened in real life. So would you.

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[CTRL] Frightening Statistics

2000-06-07 Thread John Lee




·According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau 
of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white 
victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder 
blacks. 
These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960's, when there 
was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not 
coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil 
rights movement.Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. 
Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more 
than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly 
involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were 
killed in inter-racial murders. By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, 
and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.When non-violent crimes (burglary, 
larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals 
become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent 
crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent 
of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per 
cent in the reverse).When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears 
that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white 
Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American 
life and American ideals since World War II.All these are facts, yet by 
simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be 
deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a 
paternalistic double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower 
standard. 


[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?_Stringing_the_Devil=92s_Hatband?=

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/vinson5.html


Stringing the Devil’s Hatband

 by Judith Vinson

"It was the wire that killed them, you know?" she said. She
repeated it over and over for a number of years. The answer was
no, they didn’t know, but they didn’t say so. Because of her
eighty-six years and the trauma she’d suffered, no one asked her
to elaborate.

Once called a "hostage" when she left Mt. Carmel, she
nevertheless had her Bible taken from her. It was replaced with
an ill-fitting orange suit and handcuffs. Her ankles were chained
together before she was paraded before the cameras on her way to
jail.

She was frail, blind in one eye, and almost blind in the other,
but along with another elderly woman, charged with murder. A
rabid effort to punish someone, anyone at all, who came out. The
wire that haunted her later, after the fire, seemed the least of
her problems at the time. It was just one more detail among many
that would never be known about the place that went up in flames
on April 19, 1993.

There’s a lot of wire in Texas, so much that it isn’t often given
much thought, although some collect antique, rusty samples and
display them on rustic boards to show the progressive ingenuity
of the invention that really won the West. It kept cattle in and
rustlers out, but not until recently, was it known how macabre it
might be, when it was used for some dance of death on a Texas
prairie.

Robert Frost’s "good fences make good neighbors" would once have
been a puzzling, if idealistic, notion. Without the stone to
build the beautiful dry-wall Frost was fond of erecting, or a
veritable forest of bois de arc for the tough and unyielding
fence-rows that once defined fields of the Kansas prairie, the
first who settled here on the Grande Prairie seized on the newest
of inventions – barbed wire. A Godsend embraced by the sodbusters
that knew they would first have to secure the land if they would
claim and civilize Texas. Needed by those with a single milk cow,
it was hated by the cowmen, who wanted to keep Texas an open
range for vast herds of cattle. It was the cause of more
bloodshed than all the battles ever fought on Texas soil.

In the end, the sodbusters prevailed. Having taken a dim view of
Rousseau’s notion that there was no such thing as private
property – just fencing a piece of unowned real estate and
convincing others one owned it – they took up the challenge with
a vengeance. Fleeing the destruction of Reconstruction, they came
to Texas from all over. There were hill people from Kentucky and
Tennessee. Quarrelsome, Bible thumping, and ill suited to live in
the midst of carpetbaggers and, at length, maybe each other.
There was a German Catholic pacifist from the Mid-West with
little stomach for punishing the vanquished, and genteel and
aristocratic Southerners from the Deep South, with their Negroes
and fancy, carved chests, somehow, still in tow. They were a
strange lot if ever there was one for making a new beginning
together, but they rubbed elbows, quarreled, then made up long
enough to burn a goodly number of courthouses containing the land
titles of any number of carpetbaggers. Sometimes they killed each
other, but in the end the mingled and married and multiplied to
civilize a wilderness. And all with the aid of the loved and
hated barbed wire the cowmen called "the Devil’s hatband."

Their children and grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren
would go on to the local cow colleges. Still steeped in a rural
work ethic and living in a big land that left little time for
contemplating one’s navel, or ratiocinating about the "meaning of
life," They would make their granddaddies proud by writing
"Sartre is a Fartre" on university bathroom walls, graffiti left
by administrators for years, which, no doubt, instructed any
number of lower classmen in the prevailing wisdom of their
betters.

They had little time for philosophical works, embracing, instead,
novels such as Richard Adam’s, Watership Down, an allegory about
freedom, ethics, and human nature that reminded them of long ago
places. The lesson of the "warren of the shinning wire" was not
lost on them. It was a place to be feared by both rational men
and reasoning rabbits, a place of confinement where they could
trade freedom for some erstwhile peace and plenty – right up
until the powers that be got around to popping them into a pot.
Tender Berkshire rabbits for a neo-Brunswick stew. Fiver, the
lupine sooth-sayer of Adam’s epic knew and squealed on such a
place. "Oh, no, can’t you see, Hazel!" He said. "The field is
full of blood."

They had places to avoid after coming from bloody places of their
own. Reason failed them once and they found themselves living
behind yet another kind of wire in Phu Bai, Fire Base Birmingham,
and thousands of other such in-country compounds. They were
places one might live or die behind a kind of wire named,
strangely enough, after a beautiful Italian musical instrument.
It was outfitted with 

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-07 Thread Samantha L.

tenebroust, I've always believed several layers of things are going on at
once.   I really haven't modulated my position at all.  I am personally
convinced there is something extra-dimensional and/or extra-terrestrial going
on, and that the military is pulling tricks out of their hat as well.  But
why I'm convinced of these things is purely subjective.

  I do agree we should look at the mundane sources as well as the
alternatives.  As for attempts at spiritual manipulation, I can see it as it
pertains to the UFO phenomenon as well as to other phenomenon like
channeling, remote viewing, psychic phenomenon and pseudo-religious
phenomenon.  I think there are ways of distinguishing the genuine from the
pseudo, but these ways are purely subjective and not prone to evidence.

  As for Strieber, I've long perceived there was more to his experiences than
ED or ET.  I believe he is subjected to both ED/ET and MILAB simulataeously.
It will be interesting to see what he ends up believing when he sorts through
his disturbing new memories.  I give him a lot of credit for being open about
the very memories that would seem to discredit his previous subjective
conclusions (though admittedly he's always only specualted on the nature of
experiences.)

Samantha


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 Samantha, I am glad to see that you have modulated your position as
 previously presented here, and allow for alternative explanations.  It is
 also good that you question Streiber et al, because there is some question
as
 to Streiber's affiliations etc.  These experiences could be real, or not,
as
 regards REAL aliens.  BUT it is aknowledged by most people, here at least,
 that the military DOES DO such things.  SO, it would behoove us to look at
 the known first before we go off in search of less mundane sources for
these
 events.  Would you agree?
  As to your spiritual comments as circumstantial validity for TRUE alien
 encounters I would direct you to look at the case that Vallee investigated,
 involving a Frenchman supposedly abducted by aliens and missing for days.
 Sources in the French military told him it was a fake abduction run by
their
 military in order to study psychological and psychosocial phenomenon.  It
was
 bogus.  Now, as it relates to this spiritual validity, one of the things
the
 French were desirous to look into was the formation of cults around
supposed
 alien spiritual enlightenment. One of the people who knew the abducted
person
 later went on to start a cult based upon what was told him by the abducted
 about the spiritual message of the "aliens".  This was all bogus.  What
does
 it show us?  That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in fact may be
 one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is carried out in
 the first place.


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[CTRL] OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Greetings! We are forwarding you the Open Letter on
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Today, the issue of the destruction to the biosphere
brought on by environmental war seems more relevant and
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Already the environmental impacts of NATO bombing have included
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A new generation of environmental weapons (see links below) would
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prohibit these. These UN treaties and conventions are not being
enforced to stop environmental war. The treaties were signed by
all military nations, who continue to recklessly try and use
Sacred ecological forces as instruments of war.

We call you to act against the further development of these
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We ask you to forward this Open Letter widely, and to adopt a
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[CTRL] California First Hispanic State?

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://64.29.200.227/articles/?a=2000/6/5/154335


Mexican Reconquista: Leader Says California Will Be First
'Hispanic' State

Stephan Archer
Wednesday, June 7, 2000

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond
the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants
are an important – a very important part – of this."

This statement wasn’t made in secrecy behind closed doors. It
wasn’t said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of
America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke
it in Chicago on July 23, 1997.

Speaking before the National Council of La Raza, Zedillo went on
to say, "For this reason, my government proposed a constitutional
amendment to allow any Mexican with the right and the desire to
acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to
first give up his or her Mexican nationality."

This amendment is significant for more than just the obvious
reason. It is nearly impossible to obtain Mexican citizenship
unless you can prove you are Mexican or are of Mexican descent.
If you are neither, you must prove that you have completely
adopted Mexican culture and lifestyle. Yet a Mexican citizen can,
in essence, acquire another nationality and remain a Mexican. Is
this a double standard?

Glenn Spencer, president of Voice of Citizens Together and radio
talk show host of American Patrol Report, thinks so. But he
thinks there’s something more sinister to the Mexican president’s
decree than one might think.

"This is an invasion of the United States in a very classic way
with all of the classic objectives of an invasion without using
bullets," Spencer said.

Spencer added he believed Mexico is allowing this so that those
people with dual citizenship may vote in the interest of Mexico
in the United States. The ultimate goal of this invasion, Spencer
contends, is to reclaim the American Southwest – an area
including California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of
Colorado and Texas. Known as Aztlan by Hispanic activists, these
states make up what used to be Mexican territory before treaties
and wars gave the land to the United States.

Some Hispanic activists deny that there is any sort of organized
effort to take over these states and reclaim it for Mexico.
However, Jose Pescador Osuna, who was once the Mexican consul
general in Los Angeles, has been quoted on the record as saying,
"Even though I’m saying this part serious and part joking, I
believe we are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."

"La Reconquista" means "the reconquest" and refers to the taking
over of the U.S. Southwest. Osuna now is an agent of the Mexican
government and works for migration in Mexico City.

Even though these statements have been made on American soil,
Mario Obledo of the California Coalition of Hispanic
Organizations said the "radical" Aztlan movement died in the
1960s. Obledo, a resident of Sacramento, Calif., explained that
his organization tries to secure the civil rights of
Mexican-Americans "and others similarly situated."

Although claiming a profound faith in America, he’s also proud of
the fact that the majority of Californians in the next few years
will be Hispanic.

"California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said.
"Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave."

Obledo further added: "Every constitutional office in California
is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years. It’s a
fact of life. That’s all. All of those propositions – 187, 209,
and whatever – is a backlash due to the insecurities of the
majority population. That’s all. But all those measures are going
to be reversed one of these days."

Proposition 187 was the California initiative supported by a
majority of Californians that denied taxpayer funds for services
to non-citizens. Proposition 209 was another initiative supported
by a majority of Californians that banned affirmative action,
that is, prohibited preferential treatment in the work place and
public schools and universities.

Speaking at a Latino gathering in response to Proposition 187’s
passage in 1995, Art Torres, the chairman of the California
Democratic Party, said: "Power is not given to you. You have to
take it. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America in
California."

But if Mexico is to reclaim the U.S. Southwest, how will it be
done? Spencer believes that with the increasing unrest along the
U.S.-Mexican border, the U.S. Border Patrol will eventually
become overwhelmed, requiring the U.S. Army to take action. With
increasing unrest and military presence all along the border, the
current border will be erased and a new border zone stretching
150 miles from the current border into the United States will be
put in place. Although this may sound impossible, President
Clinton has already issued an executive order that could put such
a border zone in place. Executive Order 13122, signed by the
president May 25, 1999, established an Interagency Task Force on
the Economic Development of 

[CTRL] [Reality_Pump] Congressman Fears Police State

2000-06-07 Thread lloyd

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Subject: [Reality_Pump] Congressman Fears Police State
Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:45 AM

Congressman Fears Police State, Says Waco Expert May Have [been] Murdered

Stephan Archer (http://www.newamax.com)
Tuesday, May 30, 2000

Democratic Rep. James A. Traficant says America is a virtual police state,
and he worries that a leading forensic expert hired by Congress to
investigate Waco may have been murdered.
Late in April of this year NewsMax.com first broke nationally the story
about the suspicious death of Carlos Ghigliotti.

Ghigliotti was an expert FLIR (Forward-Looking InfraRed) videotape analyst
hired by the House Government Reform Committee to analyze the flashes on
infrared film taken by the FBI during its April 1993 Waco assault.

Ghigliotti b[o]ldly said the FBI had lied when it claimed it had not fired
into the compound. He confirmed that the infrared film showed gunfire
coming from the assault weapons of FBI agents.

Maryland police officials say the cause of Ghigliotti's death in April is
officially a heart attack.

His badly decomposed body was discovered in his office on April 28, after
his building manager called the police telling them he hadn’t seen
Ghigliotti for weeks.

Traficant believes too many coincidences, including Ghigliotti’s death,
have occurred during the Waco investigation and is now calling upon
Congress to take action.

The Ohio congressman is not buying official claims that Ghigliotti, age 42,
died of a heart attack in his sleep. "Something stinks," he said.

"Ghigliotti said the FBI lied, that they did fire automatic weapons into
the burning [Branch Davidian] building," said the congressman. "But Vector
Data Systems of England said the FBI did not lie. Two scientific groups
totally disagree."

"Vector gets hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts from the FBI,"
continued Traficant. "To boot, FBI audiotapes of the burning building are
now lost. To boot, FBI autopsy reports confiscated of victims are now
missing."

Traficant also pointed out the FBI lodged an alleged or false child abuse
charge against the Davidians. The FBI had also initially denied using
combustible incendiary tear gas canisters, only to admit doing so later.

Although Traficant is pushing for a congressional investigation, the Laurel
City Police Department told NewsMax.com it was no longer investigating the
case.

"The investigation’s been closed on the basis of the report from the
medical examiner’s office which showed that he died of a heart attack
brought on by arteriosclerosis,” said Mary Bulla, the administrative
specialist at Laurel City Police Department. "They found no indication of
foul play, and they put that it was a natural death, so that concludes our
investigation."

Police State Fears

"We have developed a stone cold police state in America, believe me, from
Waco, Ruby Ridge, to Miami, Florida," Traficant said. "Every American knows
it, [but] no one is doing anything about it. There must be a full
investigation into the death of Carlos Ghigliotti."

In an effort to move forward an investigation of the Justice Department’s
handling of the Waco tragedy, Traficant has sponsored H.R. 4105, a bill
that would enact the Fair Justice Act of 2000.

The act, if passed, would establish the Fair Justice Agency, a new federal
agency that would independently have the power to investigate and prosecute
alleged misconduct, criminal activity, corruption or fraud by an officer or
employee of the Justice Department.

The bill states that the president would appoint the director of the
proposed FJA for a 10-year term subject to a Senate confirmation. Only
inefficiency, neglect of duty or malfeasance in office would be a cause for
the director’s dismissal by the president.

Under the bill, the FJA would have the same prosecutorial and investigative
authority as the Justice Department. The agency would be authorized with
$10 million for fiscal year 2001 with a $5 million increase each year for
the next two years.


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Re: [CTRL] Naval Reserve Comm Willard H.Miller on UFO Situation

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

Thanks for collating this list for us Nessie.  Some very interesting names there, no?  
In an aside, is there any relationship between the SMOM and the Shickshinny Knights of 
Malta?


On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
 "...knighted in the Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of
 Jerusalem (Knights Templars)..."

 The Sovereign Military Order of Malta, better known as the Knights of
 Malta are the military wing of the Catholic Church. They are also a
 sovereign country, even though their only "territory" is an office
 building on Via Condotti in Rome. Thirty five countries maintain
 diplomatic relations with them; over forty recognize their passport.

  Some Knights of Malta (in no particular order):

 Charles Willoughby, (born Karl Widenbach) Chief of Intelligence for Gen.
 Douglas MacAuthur

 Robert Wagner, Mayor of New York, Atty. for Otto von Bolschwing

 William R Grace, founder of the WR Grace Co.

 J. Peter Grace, son of WR, head of the company and head of Reagan's "Grace
 Committee" which oversaw the planning of government's downsizing.

 Martin F Shae Executive VP of Morgan Bank, handled telexing of funds for
 OSS chief Wild Bill Donovan, WWII

 Gen. Wild Bill Donovan, Wall St. lawyer, founder of OSS, America's first
 central intelligence agency.

 Alfred Bloomingdale, served on  Reagan's foreign intelligence advisory
 Board, better known for role in Vicki Morgan sex scandal.

 General Charles Pierce Cable Deputy Director of Central Intelligence under
 Allen Dulles

 Carl Cabell, brother of the mayor of Dallas the day Kennedy was killed.

 Tom Bolan, law partner of Roy Cohn, top advisor to Sen. Alphonse D'Amato.

 George W. Anderson, member of intelligence advisory board under Nixon.

 John D. J. Moore, WR Grace board member, former Ambassador to Ireland.

 Richard Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense.

 James J. Angleton,  poet, orchid enthusiast, head of CIA counter
 intelligence.

 Lee Iacocca, titan of industry, sold Detroit to Japan

 Admiral James D. Watkins, Reagan's Chief of Naval Operations.

 Vernon Walters, CIA trouble shooter, Reagan's roving ambassador.

 Spyro Skouros, 20th Century Fox, OSS

 Walter Reuther, labor leader

 Henry Luce, publisher of *Life*, acid head.

 Alexander Haig, "I'm in charge here."

 Peter Dominici, chairman of sub committee on terrorism.

 William Clark, judge, National Security Advisor, brought Helena von Damm
 into USA

 Reinhard Gehlen, highest ranking Nazi intelligence officer to defect to
 US, head of the the "Gehlen Org," America's sole source of info from
 inside USSR immediately after WWII, more than any other single man created
 the Cold War, later went on to head BND, West Germany's "CIA." Though a
 protestant, Gehlen's role in the "crusade" against "Godless Communism"
 warranted him a knighthood.

 William Casey, Director of CIA, head of Reagan-Bush campaign, engineered
 "October Surprise," architect of contra-gate.

 James Buckley, Radio Free Europe

 William Buckley, founder of YAF, author of spy novels, TV talk show host,
 and noted debater.

 John Volpe, Ambassador to Italy.

 John McCone, Director of Central Intelligence.

 King Baudouin of Belgium.

 Henri d'Orleans, Pretender to the throne of France.

 Jeremiah Denton, senator

 Peter Dominici, senator

 William Wilson, Reagan's special emissary to the Vatican

 Patrick Frawley, founder of Christian Anti-Communist Crusade, whose
 fortune derives from the Schick razor empire. He own a number of right
 wing Catholic media outlets, including *Twin Circles*, magazine, and
 *National Catholic Register*.  His wife is a Dame of Malta and a leading
 member of Right to Life League and a patron of Catholic anti abortion
 propagandist Phyllis Schlafly. Phyllis's husband is Patrick's employee.

 Robert H Abplanalp, Nixon croney, real estate hustler

 Joseph Kennedy, bootlegger, ambassador to England, father of various sons.

 Baron Hilton, innkeeper.

 William Stankard,  Director of Chase Manhatten Bank.

 Danny Thomas, entertainer

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[CTRL] House releases LaBella report

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

June 7, 2000

House releases LaBella report

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore were key
players in a 1996 Democratic fund-raising scheme designed to
"raise money by whatever means and from whomever would give it,
without meaningful attention to the lawfulness of the
contributions."

 That is one of the conclusions of a previously unreleased
94-page report by Charles G. LaBella, former chief of the Justice
Department's campaign finance task force, who recommended in July
1998 that Attorney General Janet Reno seek an independent counsel
to probe fund-raising abuses.

 "The intentional conduct and the willful ignorance uncovered
by our investigations . . . resulted in a situation where abuse
was rampant, and indeed the norm," Mr. LaBella, a career
prosecutor, said. "At some point, the campaign was so corrupted
by bloated fundraising and questionable contributions that the
system became a caricature of itself."

 The report, which Justice refused over the past two years to
release despite Senate and House subpoenas, was made public
yesterday by the House Government Reform Committee.

 The committee also released a November 1997 memo by FBI
Director Louis J. Freeh, describing Mr. Gore as an "active
participant" in questionable fund-raising efforts and calling on
the attorney general to seek the appointment of an independent
counsel to investigate campaign finance abuses by the vice
president.

 "The evidence tends to show that the vice president was an
active participant in the core group fundraising efforts, that he
was informed about the distinctions between 'hard' and 'soft'
money, and that he generally understood there were legal
restrictions against making telephone solicitations from federal
property," Mr. Freeh said.

 Mr. Gore, claiming "no controlling legal authority," has
said he believed he was soliciting only soft-money donations. But
documents show both hard and soft money were discussed at
meetings he attended and at least 35 percent of the donations he
sought went to hard-money accounts.

 He told the FBI he might not have heard the discussions
because he was drinking a lot of iced tea and may have been in
the bathroom.

 Soft money consists of unlimited and largely unregulated
donations; hard money is made up of smaller and more restricted
donations.

 The Freeh memo said the FBI's campaign-finance investigation
focused on accusations that a "core group" of White House and
Democratic National Committee officials, including Mr. Clinton
and Mr. Gore, were involved in "an all-out effort" to raise money
— leading to White House coffees, overnight stays and telephone
solicitations by the president and vice president.

 "The task force has now established that the vice president
made approximately 86 fundraising calls from his West Wing office
and reached at least 43 potential donors," Mr. Freeh said. "At
least five of the persons solicited by the vice president gave
money that was deposited, in part into DNC accounts."

 Mr. Freeh described a decision by Miss Reno not to seek
outside counsel based on Mr. Gore's claims he intended to solicit
only soft-money donations as "seriously flawed."

 "In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president
was a very active, sophisticated fundraiser who knew exactly what
he was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given
undue weight," he said.

 Mr. LaBella noted in his report that Mr. Gore had received a
series of memos from White House Deputy Chief of Staff Harold
Ickes and attended weekly meetings concerning hard and the
so-called soft-money solicitations and the DNC's hard-money
accounts.

 He described Mr. Ickes, who now runs Mrs. Clinton's New York
campaign, as a "Svengali, assuming power — with the imprimatur of
the president — to authorize DNC and Clinton/Gore '96
expenditures.

 "Curiously, though renowned as a policy wonk, the vice
president claims he did not read the memos and cannot recall the
meetings," Mr. LaBella said.

 He said the White House, in a "desperate need to raise
enormous sums of money" to offset losses to Republicans in 1994,
relied on the "calculated use of access" to Mr. Clinton and first
lady Hillary Rodham Clinton "as leverage to extract
contributions" from donors hoping to enhance their own business
positions.

 "All pretense of maintaining discrete areas of
responsibility and control were shattered as the need for
campaign funds — driven by the media campaign — increased," he
said. "Such blurring of lines is troubling because it triggered
an intermingling of funds, resources and personnel that resulted
in the circumvention and violation of campaign contribution
regulations."

   In releasing the documents, Committee Chairman Rep. Dan
Burton, Indiana Republican, chastised the Justice Department for
its failure to make the documents public. He said the department
showed a lack of aggressive 

[CTRL] Ex-Colo Gov. Named LA Schools Chief

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[To help save the L.A. Unified School District from a couple of decades of
illegal immigration, bilingual education, abandonment of phonics, lowering
of academic standards, wasting money on the Belmont hazardous waste site
debacle, etc., the School Board selects as its new superintendent, the
former head of the Democratic National Committee, whose party was largely
responsible for all of the above.]


From:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/2606/us/los_angeles_schools_1.html

Tuesday June 6 6:45 PM ET

Ex-Colo Gov. Named LA Schools Chief

AP Photos staffing, By KAREN SANTOS Associated Press Writer


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Former Colorado Gov. Roy Romer on Tuesday was
named superintendent of the Los Angeles school system, which has
been struggling with low test scores, fractious leadership and
the threat of state oversight.

Romer, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, will
take over the nation's second-largest school district, with
711,000 students.

``The new face of America is going to be developed, in my
judgment, in the L.A. community. You have the potential of being
the premier metropolitan area of the United States,'' Romer said
at a news conference. ``Now, there's one flaw to that. If you do
not make this school system work, you're never going to get
there.''

Romer, 71, succeeds Ramon Cortines, who was brought in as interim
superintendent in January to begin reforms after the ouster of
Ruben Zacarias.

Zacarias was accused of mismanagement, and he especially came
under fire when it was learned that the nation's most expensive
high school, the Belmont Learning Complex, was being built on a
site suffused with toxic gases left over from its days as an oil
field. After $170 million in construction costs, the project was
scrapped.

Romer beat out two finalists with education experience: former
Chicago Board of Education President George Munoz and an official
of another school district who asked the Los Angeles board to
keep her name private.

Other potential candidates said they withdrew their applications
for superintendent out of fears that the district will be taken
over by the state because of all its problems.

Romer spent nearly 40 years in Colorado government, beginning in
1958, when he was elected to the state House. In 1962 he moved
into the Senate. He served 12 years as governor, from 1987 to
1999, and was barred by law from seeking a fourth term.

He was embraced by business interests for his decisions on
controlled development and growth. But he was harshly criticized
by Republicans for vetoing dozens of tax cut proposals.

Romer was appointed general chairman of the Democratic National
Committee in 1997 and left that post late last year to become
head of the committee organizing the party's convention in Los
Angeles in August.

His appointment comes three weeks after the nation's largest
school district, the one in New York City, picked a new
superintendent without education experience - former banking
executive Harold Levy.


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Was the Catholic Church Silent During the Holocaust?

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

One must never forget how the Catholic Church aided many Nazis in escaping Europe for 
the more salubrious climes of South America.


On Tue, 06 June 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote:


 What did you say David?  Could barely hear you.

 Didn't Hitler really win that war?   After all, look at NATO today and
 Europe being organized by bombs and bullets beaten into submission by
 people who allegedly escaped the holocaust, like Albright who executes
 judgment at the Balkans even to the kids at Littleton, for Klebod wrote
 in his diary it was Judgment Day that April 20, and they went to war
 obviously under adult control, for it was said their eyes were dead and
 fixed.

 I believe right now the biggest enemy of the Catholic Church is and was
 the Pope.   Hitler feared the Pope but the Vatican thanks to communists
 in disguise - Garibaldi and his Red Shirts showed how weak and
 vulnerable the Catholic Church was.   They submit to God's Will and do
 not fight back.  Israelies learned not to depend upon God.

 Who invented the bible and for what purpose?   All joke about Chinaman -
 Chinese put bowls of rice and food on graves of their loved onesone
 day an Englishman was placing flowers on grave of his wife, and looked
 over and laughed and said "Hey Charlie, when do you think they will come
 up and eat that", and the Chinaman replied, "about the same time your
 loved one comes up to smell the roses".

 So ancestor worship and divine right to rule is what religion is all
 about.   And if  you want a piece of the rock you better be able to
 prove your pedigree.

 All is conspiracy.   A bible is nice, but you are much safer with a gun.
 So never trade your gun for a bible or a talmud or you too will be
 pushing up daisies waiting to smell the roses and each a lot of rice.

 Is the Pope Cathoolic?   Hell no.   He is anything you say he is.

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Re: [CTRL] California First Hispanic State?

2000-06-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well Michael Spitzer:  I think Clinton is playing The Beast in the
Bible, and as the Jehovah Witnesses writes every generation has its own
Beast and multilanguage pentacostal dream.   It would be interesting to
read what Sigmund Freud would say to this today.

All the signs are there and every religious nut in the country knows it.
The problem is, those following these so called "cults" do not know how
they play the game.

This Century the USA if the UN has its way, will be the Beast - see the
foul language coming from its mouth by virtue of the news/television
media.   See the latest Arnold Schwartnegger movie and remember he is
married to Maria Shriver, who knows all and tells him all.

Clinton went to Russia with typical good guy, bad guy routine.   It is
too late for him to recover from the damage done; he is wounded, and his
intellect now is challenged.   He will be denied any greatness he
conferred upon himself.

I do not like games, and I do not play games.  Religion has no place in
government with the exception of a simple prayer in school, and to each
his own.

Strange only the Jehovah Witnesses seemingly have access to this NWO
plan.   They see a Utopia in our Future; me, I see a Medussa in Hilliary
Clinton,  and it will take a Perseus on a white horse, to save us.

Now Pat Buchanan I think is a good Perseus.  George Bush Jr. takes lead
in polls, as Gore wallows in Clinton's mistakes, the biggest and fattest
being Monica Lewinsky who without a doubt had some Cathy O'Brien
training.

Buchanan is a clean candidate.   I wish Bush and Buchanan would get on
the same horse for it would be adequate representation for all.

 So even Russia dislikes Clinton.   He seeks a friend someone who will
cheer him as they did JFK.   JFK's smile playing with his children was
worth a thousand words.Bill Clintons playing with the lives of
children in war games at Waco, smiling with his thumb in his mouth,  in
typical of mental regard when they choke or set a cat on fire.   Good
cases histories too on pyromania being sex associated crimes.Refer
to Los Alamos, and somebody high up gave word to light that torch.

California loved Robert F. Kennedy and Dallas the last words John F.
Kennedy heard were "you can' t say Dallas doesnt love you, Mr.
President".

Would Mexico care to give a portion of their corrupt country to the USA
or will there be another Alamo in California.



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California Loves Buchanan - The Wash Post Can't Bear It

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick J. Buchanan)

June 5, 2000
Mr. Leonard Downie
Executive Editor
Washington Post

Dear Mr. Downie:
Sunday morning, your newspaper ran on page A7 one of the few stories
that you have carried on my campaign for the Reform Party nomination.
"Buchanan is Meeting Resistance in California," blared the headline,
over the dramatic subhead: "State Reform Party May Break Away." It was a
legitimate and important story about a dissident scheme to derail our
campaign.

So important was it, your reporter-pundit David Broder rushed to his
post on the highly-rated Sunday NBC show, Meet the Press, to gush about
the devastating blow about to fall:

Well, Nader is doing much better...he is running well ahead of Pat
Buchanan in the pollsThe other interesting thing with Buchanan is
that he is now for the first time running into real resistance from some
elements in the Reform PartyThe California Reform Party is on the
verge of rejecting the Buchanan candidacy. I think our friend Mr.
Buchanan may have some problems within his own party.

Sunday afternoon, however, the Buchanan forces, joined by Reform allies,
rolled back and routed the threat. On Monday, the New York Times and
Washington Times gave extensive coverage to our victory. The Post, which
had trumpeted the threat, ignored our triumph. Not one word.

Now, this is not another complaint about the anti-Buchanan animus of the
Post. That is not news. This is rather a request that you review the
inherent conflict-of-interest your newspaper, given its bias, has in the
2000 presidential race.
Consider:
The Washington Post owns and operates one of the key polls that is
charged with measuring whether our campaign has reached the 15%
threshold for participation in the presidential debates. The Post is
also one of the media companies that will determine whether our campaign
is fully and fairly covered - the only way we have a chance to reach
15%. In brief, the media companies that control the polls - NBC, CBS,
CNN, Washington Post, etc. - also control our TV and press coverage, the
decisive factor in whether we reach 15%.

To sum up: you have the power to fix the election of 2000; our fate is
in the hands of our Big Media adversaries. You are standing on our
windpipe, Mr. Downie.

Now, this is a lesser problem for Governor Bush. His party stands to
take in $250 million in "soft money" 

[CTRL] OEN 6/7/00

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The Looming Crisis


Economic Catch-22



by Dr. Irwin Kellner

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Hear me now and believe me later. The more the stock
market celebrates what it believes to be a slowing economy -- the less likely
it is that the economy will, indeed slow.

It’s not that Wall Street wants to see Main Street in the dumpster. Indeed,
the last thing equity participants want to see is a recession because that
takes a big chunk out of corporate profits, putting stock prices at risk.

Rather, it’s slower growth that the Street is praying for. Reason: This might
convince the Federal Reserve that its job is done, and that interest rates do
not have to go up much more -- if at all.

Rising interest rates always put a damper on stocks and this time is no
exception.

The Fed began hiking rates last June. As a consequence, the Nasdaq peaked in
March, the Dow Jones Industrials back in January, while many stocks saw their
highs last year.

When rates go up, stocks lose their luster for a number of reasons.

First of all, rising rates cut into earnings by increasing costs while reducin
g sales. Higher interest rates also make margin buying more difficult, while
increasing the attractiveness of bonds.

Not surprisingly, the prospects that rates might stabilize for a while,
instead of continuing to head higher, was cause for celebration, down on Wall
Street.

Convinced Fed is done hiking

The Federal funds futures market is already convinced that the Fed will rest
on its oars, come the end of this month. Two weeks ago, this market, where
traders bet on future Fed policy, was bracing for another half-point hike.

A spate of weak economic numbers, capped off by May’s labor force figures,
gets the credit for this 180-degreee change in thinking.

Rising stocks force Fed’s hand

The problem is that by boosting stock prices in response, traders and
investors are all but assuring that the Fed will continue raising rates. It
doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and his colleagues have expressed concern that
soaring stock prices, by making investors wealthier, have increased their
propensity to spend.

So if stock prices remain on their upward trajectory, it is not unreasonable
to assume that, before too long, consumers will once again whip out their
credit cards and shop till they drop.

And if this, in turn, keeps the economic pot simmering, what do you think the
Fed’s reaction will be? I would not bet the ranch that the Fed will just sit
back and do nothing.

A better bet would be another rate increase.


Dr. Irwin Kellner, chief economist of CBS MarketWatch, is Weller professor of
economics at Hofstra University.
MarketWatch, June 7, 2000
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[CTRL] A Data Sanctuary is Born

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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A Data Sanctuary Is Born
by Declan McCullagh
5:00 p.m. Jun. 4, 2000 PDT

WASHINGTON -- A windswept gun tower anchored six miles off the stormy coast
of England is about to become the first Internet data haven.

A group of American cypherpunks has transformed the rusting fortress, erected
by the British military during World War II to shoot down Nazi aircraft, into
a satellite-linked virtual home for anyone looking for a secure place to
store sensitive or controversial data.

The founders of HavenCo, which will announce operations on Monday, believe
the concept will appeal to individuals and businesses looking for a "safe
haven" from governments around that world that are becoming more and more
interested in Internet regulation and taxation.

It's for "companies that want to have email servers in a location in which
they can consider their email private and not open to scrutiny by anyone
capable of filing a lawsuit," says Sean Hastings, the 32-year-old chief
executive of HavenCo.

Hastings says that because a 1968 British court decision effectively
recognized the basketball court-sized island as a sovereign nation called Seal
and, HavenCo can provide more privacy and legal protections then anyone else
on the planet.

To create HavenCo -- which will offer Linux servers for $1,500 a month -- the
founders signed an agreement with Roy Bates, the quirky "crown prince" of
Sealand who landed on the abandoned platform in 1966 and claimed it as an
independent nation with its own currency, stamps, and flag.
Bates, a former British Army major, has undertaken a string of failed
business ventures in an attempt to make use of the world's tiniest country --
a platform just 10 by 25 yards that perches atop two cement caissons in the
North Sea.

One plan was to build Sealand into a three-mile-long, man-made island with an
airport and banks. Another venture included working with German investors to
build a $70 million hotel and gambling complex -- a scheme that fell apart
with the Germans taking over the fortress in 1978 and Bates regaining control
in a dramatic helicopter raid at dawn.

This time the elder Bates, now about 80 years old, is taking no chances on
his business partners: His son and royal heir-apparent, Michael, is HavenCo's
chief logistics officer and the royal family has a seat on the board.

But today Sealand's potential adversaries include not merely a few
expansion-minded Germans, but nervous government officials who are
aggressively trying to pull the plug on unapproved offshore activities.

During a Paris summit in May, for instance, representatives of the Group of
Eight (G8) nations met to hammer out an agreement on international Net law.
"The idea is to produce a global text so there cannot be 'digital havens' or
'Internet havens' where anyone planning some shady business could find the
facilities to do it," French Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevenement said
at the time.
When Sealand was simply an eccentric's hobby, the British government largely
ignored the smallest country in the world. But if HavenCo becomes a popular
destination for gambling, money laundering, or other socially disapproved
activities, governments could move against it.

The Home Office in London could restrict the microwave links that provide
HavenCo with its lifeline to the outside world, and the companies offering
satellite connectivity could come under pressure from regulators in their
home countries. HavenCo could even find its bank accounts imperiled.
For their part, HavenCo executives say they hope to avoid negative publicity.
"We don't intend to make anyone angry at us. We simply want to provide online
businesses a place with a sane set of rules that are not constantly
changing," Hastings said.
"If larger nations have a problem with unrestricted information flow, then
their problem is with the increase in information technology, and not with
us. They can't put the genie back in the bottle until every individual on the
planet has had their three wishes come true," he said.

Somewhat ironically, bandits recently set up a fake "Principality of Sealand"
website to sell citizenship to unsuspecting visitors. Spanish authorities
reportedly are investigating a gang involved with drug smuggling and arms
trafficking using those passports.

In a bizarre incident, one "Sealand" passport of dubious origin surfaced in
connection with the July 1997 murder of fashion designer Gianni Versace in
Miami.

The British Embassy in Washington declined to comment on what would prompt
London to take action against the legitimate prince of Sealand. "What it
comes down to is that this is a hypothetical (situation), and so we cannot
speculate on this," said Peter Reed, the embassy's press officer.

In interviews, U.S. government officials indicated they would take a more
active 

[CTRL] SURVEY  ONLINE FINANCE

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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20th May 2000SURVEY  ONLINE FINANCE

The virtual threat
The Internet has already forced wrenching change on the financial-services
industry—and the revolution has barely begun, says Simon Long
The other sort of
channel conflict


Banking

The Internet


Search
archive

LinksTHE most remarkable thing about the effect of the Internet on the
financial-services sector is not how pervasive it has been; it is how limited
a transformation it has so far wrought. Financial institutions, after all,
deal in a product—money—that for many of their customers has long been
“virtual”. Bank-account holders are used to the notion that their cash is
represented by a series of numbers on a monthly statement generated by a
computer, or by the glowing green figures of a cash machine. And they have
become accustomed to making payments using pieces of plastic backed with a
clever magnetic strip. The Internet might have been designed for the
distribution, monitoring and management of this ubiquitous electronic
commodity.

More worryingly for the firms that make their living out of arranging
financial transactions, the Internet might also have been designed to do away
with them. Banks and other financial firms are intermediaries, standing
between lenders and borrowers, savers and spenders. For decades, banks in
rich countries have been fretting about how to cope with “disintermediation”:
lenders dealing direct with borrowers (as many do already in the capital
markets), without using a bank’s balance sheet to add a layer of cost. The
Internet is, potentially, the greatest force for disintermediation the banks
have ever had to tackle. Other intermediaries, such as retailers, face the
same problem. But money, unlike, say, an item of clothing, is a commodity
that can actually be used, transferred and delivered electronically.

Samuel Theodore, of Moody’s, a credit-rating agency, believes the banks are
currently undergoing their “fourth disintermediation”. The first involved
savings, and the growth of mutual funds, specialised pension funds and
life-insurance policies at the expense of bank deposits; the second saw the
capital markets take on some of the banks’ traditional role as providers of
credit; in the third, advances in technology helped to streamline back-office
operations. Now, in the fourth stage, the distribution of banking products is
being disintermediated. This process has been going on for some years, with
the spread of automated teller machines (ATMs) and, over the past decade or
so, telephone banking and PC-based proprietary systems; but the Internet
hugely enlarges its scope.

Spotty youth  Yet, except for one activity, share-trading, and one part of
the world, Scandinavia, Internet-based financial retailing is, if not in its
infancy, then scarcely at puberty. And wholesale banking, although it relies
heavily on complex electronic trading systems and information technology, is
still conducted mostly on closed proprietary networks. To be sure, there are
some signs that the disintermediation the industry fears may be starting.
Internet banks, with their low costs—and their dot.com habit of paying more
attention to the acquisition of customers than the turning of profits—have
drawn deposits away from offline banks in some countries. And in the capital
markets, bond issues and share offerings have been syndicated and distributed
over the Internet. Some highly rated borrowers have for years been borrowing
through their own issues of commercial paper. The Internet can only enhance
the appeal of do-it-yourself fund-raising. But these are just the early signs
of an upheaval that is gathering momentum by the day. There are a number of
reasons why many online financial services have been slow to catch on, and
why they can now be expected to develop faster.
Concerns about the security of Internet transactions, a particularly
important issue for financial dealings, are gradually being eased. Internet
use, even in the rich world, has been patchy, but is spreading fast. And
whereas conducting financial transactions online up to now has often been
clunky and annoying, the technology is improving all the time. Those
technological advances are also liberating the Internet from the confines of
the PC (see article).

Most important, financial institutions themselves, which in the past have
often resisted change, may now become its most ardent promoters. Having
invested heavily in their own systems, banks were understandably reluctant to
jettison them for web-based replacements. And adapting their own processes
for the Internet has often proved cumbersome and difficult. Moreover, until
recently banks faced little pressure from their customers to change what were
seen as useful but boring services, much the same as electricity and gas. But
soon, in many countries, customers will expect an online 

[CTRL] Your privacy ends here

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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Focus: Freedom and the net


Your privacy ends here

A Bill which is slipping through the House of Lords will allow MI5 access to
all our online communications, says John Naughton. It could mean we're all
guilty until proven innocent. So why don't we care more?

Free speech on the net: special report

Sunday June 4, 2000

When you wake on Thursday 5 October next, you will find yourself living in a
different country. An ancient bulwark of English law - the principle that
someone is presumed innocent until proven guilty - will have been overturned.
And that is just for starters. From that date also the police and security
services will enjoy sweeping powers to snoop on your email traffic and web
use without let or hindrance from the Commissioner for Data Protection.
Every UK internet service provider (ISP) will have to install a black box
which monitors all the data-traffic passing through its computers, hard-wired
to a special centre currently being installed in MI5's London headquarters.
This new mass surveillance facility is called the Government Technical
Assistance Centre (GTAC). Who said Jack Straw had no sense of humour?
The Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Bill which is now before the
Lords gives the Home Secretary powers of interception and surveillance which
would be the envy of the most draconian regime. In addition to encroaching on
civil liberties, the same Bill will also drive hordes of e-commerce companies
from Britain to countries like Ireland where their encryption keys - extended
pin numbers allowing users to decipher jumbled data - will be protected from
government prying. An administration which complains continually about making
Britain 'the most e-friendly country in the world' by 2002 is busily making
sure that exactly the opposite happens.
How has this extraordinary state of affairs come about? Is it another
manifestation of the cock-up theory of history, or are there more sinister
forces at work? The answer is a bit of both. For some time, it has been
obvious to Ministers and civil servants that British law needed updating to
cope with the internet. In an era when online trading becomes ubiquitous, for
example, some way has to be found of making 'digital signatures' legally
valid. Accordingly, a special Cabinet Office unit headed by Professor Jim
Norton set to work to devise a new legislative framework for the emerging
world of e-commerce and online communications. The main result of his labour
was the Electronic Commerce Bill.
As that Bill went through its Parliamentary hoops, it became clear that some
parts of it - mainly the sections dealing with data encryption, interception
and surveillance - were so deeply flawed that they threatened to sink the
Bill. Given the Government's desire to make headway on the e-commerce front,
the problematic sections were eventually jettisoned and the Electronic
Commerce Bill became law in 1999.
It was a smart decision, but it left unresolved the problem of what to do
about the encryption stuff. The DTI, smarting from its bruising at the hands
of the computer scientists who had comprehensively shredded the original
encryption proposals, wanted nothing more to do with it. Accordingly the
poisoned chalice passed to the Home Office, which knows little of business
and even less about the internet, but is endlessly attentive to the needs of
the police, the security services and the Byzantine imperatives of official
secrecy. The RIP Bill is the fruit of that secretive bureaucratic milieu.
The official rationale for the legislation is that it is required to bring UK
law into conformance with the European Convention on Human Rights. In the
end, this will have to be tested in the courts, but Straw's confidence is not
shared by the Commons Trade  Industry Select Committee which last October
recommended that the Government publish a detailed analysis to substantiate
its confidence that the Bill does not contravene the Convention. This the
Government has so far declined to do.
The Bill has four main parts. The first deals with the interception of
communications. the second covers 'surveillance and covert human intelligence
sources'. The third tackles encryption and the fourth covers the 'scrutiny of
investigatory powers and of the functions of the intelligence services'.
Parts I to III propose massive extensions of the state's powers to spy on its
citizens while the fourth suggests a regulatory regime which seems laughably
inadequate to anyone familiar with internet technology. All sections of the
Bill have been heavily criticised by external experts and a small number of
committed MPs, but the legislation has passed through its Commons scrutiny
with its central provisions intact.

[CTRL] Eureka! Scientists break speed of light

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgnusa01007.htmlCli
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Eureka! Scientists break speed of light

Jonathan Leake, Science Editor



SCIENTISTS claim they have broken the ultimate speed barrier: the speed of
light.
In research carried out in the United States, particle physicists have shown
that light pulses can be accelerated to up to 300 times their normal velocity
of 186,000 miles per second.

The implications, like the speed, are mind-boggling. On one interpretation it
means that light will arrive at its destination almost before it has started
its journey. In effect, it is leaping forward in time.

Exact details of the findings remain confidential because they have been
submitted to Nature, the international scientific journal, for review prior
to possible publication.

The work was carried out by Dr Lijun Wang, of the NEC research institute in
Princeton, who transmitted a pulse of light towards a chamber filled with
specially treated caesium gas.
Before the pulse had fully entered the chamber it had gone right through it
and travelled a further 60ft across the laboratory. In effect it existed in
two places at once, a phenomenon that Wang explains by saying it travelled
300 times faster than light.

The research is already causing controversy among physicists. What bothers
them is that if light could travel forward in time it could carry
information. This would breach one of the basic principles in physics -
causality, which says that a cause must come before an effect. It would also
shatter Einstein's theory of relativity since it depends in part on the speed
of light being unbreachable.

This weekend Wang said he could not give details but confirmed: "Our light
pulses did indeed travel faster than the accepted speed of light. I hope it
will give us a much better understanding of the nature of light and how it
behaves."

Dr Raymond Chiao, professor of physics at the University of California at
Berkeley, who is familiar with Wang's work, said he was impressedby the
findings. "This is a fascinating experiment," he said.

In Italy, another group of physicists has also succeeded in breaking the
light speed barrier. In a newly published paper, physicists at the Italian
National Research Council described how they propagated microwaves at 25%
above normal light speed. The group speculates that it could be possible to
transmit information faster than light.

Dr Guenter Nimtz, of Cologne University, an expert in the field, agrees. He
believes that information can be sent faster than light and last week gave a
paper describing how it could be done to a conference in Edinburgh. He
believes, however, that this will not breach the principle of causality
because the time taken to interpret the signal would fritter away all the
savings.

"The most likely application for this is not in time travel but in speeding
up the way signals move through computer circuits," he said.

Wang's experiment is the latest and possibly the most important evidence that
the physical world may not operate according to any of the accepted
conventions.

In the new world that modern science is beginning to perceive, sub-atomic
particles can apparently exist in two places at the same time - making no
distinction between space and time.
Separate experiments carried out by Chiao illustrate this. He showed that in
certain circumstances photons - the particles of which light is made - could
apparently jump between two points separated by a barrier in what appears to
be zero time. The process, known as tunnelling, has been used to make some of
the most sensitive electron microscopes.

The implications of Wang's experiments will arouse fierce debate. Many will
question whether his work can be interpreted as proving that light can exceed
its normal speed - suggesting that another mechanism may be at work.

Neil Turok, professor of mathematical physics at Cambridge University, said
he awaited the details with interest, but added: "I doubt this will change
our view of the fundamental laws of physics."

Wang emphasises that his experiments are relevant only to light and may not
apply to other physical entities. But scientists are beginning to accept that
man may eventually exploit some of these characteristics for inter-stellar
space travel.
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1

2000-06-07 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000607a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/06_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No perditious paradigms were perpetuated to produce this bulletin. None.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Godel's Proof: http://www.ddc.net/ygg/etext/godel/index.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UFOs on Film are for real. DARWIN, AUSTRALIA. A Darwin man has captured
  on film unidentified flying objects flying over Darwin last month. Night-
  cliff resident Keith Sauerwald said yesterday he saw 11 orange glowing
  objects flying across the sky in arrow formation on May 18th. Why no
  abduction? http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m06-005.shtml

# Strange Lights in Broome, Western Australia: http://caus.org/mu052600.htm
# Hush-hush file on giant UFO http://alienzoo.com/news/u/26060003.cfm
# 'UFO Theorists Gain Support Abroad, But Repression At Home' - happens
  all the time: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/may/m21-011.shtml
# Abductees Report Similar Ailments: http://www.caus.org/pc052500.htm

: Have you captured any UFOs lately?Have any UFOs captured you? Do UFOs keep
secrets? Have you been repressed due to your UFO theories?Have you repressed
any UFO theorists lately? Do UFO theories mask military experiments? Which?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Showtime For 'Big Bang' Machine. NEW YORK - Researchers in New York say
  they are just days away from a milestone in physics: the first particle
  collisions within the most powerful machine of its kind. Scientists say
  the experiment eventually will generate a state of matter that existed
  a millionth of a second after the Big Bang. And even before the first
  collision' the experiment has generated a legal and scientific debate
  worthy of a movie plot.  http://www.msnbc.com/news/314049.asp

# TEN MORE SUPERMASSIVE BLACK HOLES FOUND - Richard Simmons urges restraint:
 http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/blackhole_bulge_000605.html
# BLACK HOLES MAY OCCUR IN PAIRS http://unisci.com/stories/20002/0606004.htm

: What's your favorite black hole? D'ya prefer black holes, big bangs, WIMPs
or MACHOs or me? D'ya like to experiment with primordial energy phenomena?
Are you endangering Earth, the galaxy, reality with your work? D'ya care?
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# Scientists push new life origin theory. One of the greatest mysteries is
  how life emerged on primeval Earth.A new theory postulates the spontaneous
  replication of lipid molecules. "The accepted notion of the creation of
  life is that prior to the appearance of living organisms,there was a stage
  of chemical evolution, which involved  selection within inanimate chemical
  mixtures.This is thought to have eventually led to the crucial moment,when
  self-replicating molecules arose.As self-replication is a most fundamental
  characteristic of living entities, such an event is often defined as the
  birth of life." Hi there. http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal060702.html

@ CULTURAL ORIGINS OF THE BOOKS OF MOSES IN GENESIS AND THE PARADISE MYTHS:
  http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/religion.html#culturalorigins
@ The social construction of reality, truth, knowledge, and
  everything else. Is this a cliché that's run its course?
  http://www.threepennyreview.com/samples/furbank_su00.html

: Have you created any lifes/deaths/paradises/perditions lately? Have any of
your molecules spontaneously replicated lately? Are they hard to stop? Has
spontaneous replication gotten out of control? Is it mythological? Are you?
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# ALERT: MASSIVE SOLAR X-CLASS FLARES. Whether these flares will hit Earth
  remains to be seen, but the position of dangerous region 9026 is most
  ominous; there may be more eruptions to come: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/
# Official Space Weather Advisory...06/07/00 *** STRONG RADIO BLACKOUTS ***
  Get fried: http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0607space.htm

# "It Will Come From The Sky" -- CME's On Their Way. I have received three
  Urgent messages from sources in and close to NASA  NOAA. They are warning
  of a HUGH geomagnetic storm heading our way. Could it be related to Fatima
  Prophecy? http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0607cme.htm

# THE MAYAN CALENDAR AND THE DECEMBER 21, 2012 END DATE - bend over, kiss
  your ass goodbye: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/prophecy.html#mayan

: Will everything end on 21 Dec 2012? Will that be a relief? Should we worry
about preceding events?Are these solar flares premonitions, trivial, deadly?
Are geomagnetic storms a refreshing relief from electromagnetic drought?Why?
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# NEW BREED OF VIRUS TARGETS HANDHELDS. Computer security wonks intercepted
  a new virus designed to attack cell phones with text 

[CTRL] Knesset Says New Elections - But Not So Quick (fwd)

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This just in from Israel -- new elections ahead?

But it's hard to say at this point, what's going on.  Barak is a former commando
General who knows well how to manipulate and deceive in order to prepare the way
for what he wants.  He and his largely military and intelligence government are
now using a similar approach manipulating the levers of politics in addition to
Israel's military and covert capabilities.

The recent "assassination" scares, all the hoopla about Abu Dis, talk of a "fund"
for "resettlement" of refugees, pushing for an Arafat-Barak-Clinton Camp David summit,
and now this -- it all fits in well with what appears to be Barak's complicated
multifaceted and multi-option strategy.  And it goes something like this.

Let the U.S. do much of the heavy lifting and pay the big bills; get the Europeans
to continue staying out of the way but also to promise more big money to Arafat;
use the Clinton situation and Israeli power in the States to continually press Arafat
into a corner for a "final settlement"; manipulate Arab opinion by repackaging old
policies with new rhetoric and terminology; keep playing the Syrians off against
the Palestinians, using military threats to further worry them coupled with economic
and personal bribe incentives to further entice them.

This is a time of major leverage for the Israelis and they know it.  Bill Clinton
and Madeleine Albright haves always been in their pocket, no matter what political
theatrics are played out for public opinion, and never has Clinton wanted and needed
a Middle East deal at any cost more than now.   Arafat is in a corner and on the
ropes -- and no matter how much he squirms and pretends otherwise he is controlled
and manipulated by the Israelis and the CIA which are everywhere around him, listening
and watching everything he does, and well aware that they have unprecedented leverage
over a Palestinian leader.  Iraq has been destroyed, the Syrian military is in bad
shape, the Hashemite King is their man as was his father before him, they have 
extricated
themselves from Lebanon with the U.N. now being pushed to protect that border for
them, and their military and economic strength relative to all the Arab states combined
gives the little State of Israel quite an unbelievable 8 to 1 edge.

So, if the historic deals Israel desperately wants the current Arab leaders to sign
before its too late can be made, fantastic.  If a historic deal that suits Israel's
long-term interests and which legitimizes most of Israel's gains can be had, they
want very much to quickly grab it while Arafat is there to sign on the dotted line;
and the same with Assad.  The time has never been better for them; the deals have
never been more weighted in Israel's favor.

But if for whatever reasons neither deal with the Palestinians or Syrians works
out as Israel wants to "end the conflict", they are still positioned extremely well.
 Barak will claim the Israelis went the extra mile time and again "to achieve peace".
 The Arabs and their friends are as incapable of defending against the Israeli-American
propaganda machine as they are of taking on Israel militarily..  The Israelis can
fall back on alternative policies, including their military might, if anyone dares
to seriously challenge them.  Syria only has to look at what was done to Iraq and
Yugoslavia in recent years to see how dangerous the situation is for them.  And
Iran should be very worried as well.

And furthermore, if Barak really gets into any serious problems he can let the "new
election" gambit go forward, buy himself more time, see if he is going to be dealing
with George W. or Gore in Washington, let Arafat's stew boil over into further chaos
and mafioso ways further demoralizing the Palestinians who are now on reservations
patrolled by Palestinian police with overall Israeli-CIA control.  And all the while
the Israelis and the Americans will keep telling Arafat and Assad, for as long as
they are alive, that they are missing their historical moment; continually squeezing
and threatening them hoping one or both will choose the accolades the Israelis can
arrange for them rather than passing away with the much more negative legacies the
Israelis can 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread Robert F. Tatman

OK, I could have called them "infraterrestrials" or "metaterrestrials"
instead of "ultraterrestrials."  All that I meant by using
"ultraterrestrial" was that they would be just as much products of Earthly
evolution as are human beings.  However, I've seen the term
"ultraterrestrial" used to refer to a physical race of intelligent entities
who, like humans, evolved on Earth, but in a radically different direction.
Just what that direction was, remains to be seen.  My guess here is that
they are essentially the same as the "fairies" (goblins, Heinzelmännchen,
fée, etc.) found in every culture on the planet.  Sometimes they're
worshipped as gods, ancestors, or both; sometimes feared as demons, incubi,
succubi; sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and
accepted.  The one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is
that they are able to project an image of themselves that  "casts a glamour"
on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space
aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment.
As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely.

- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)


 I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense.
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Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials

2000-06-07 Thread Carl Amedio

In a message dated 6/7/00 9:54:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 he one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is
 that they are able to project an image of themselves that  "casts a glamour"
 on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space
 aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment.
 As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely.
  

   ***Why? That's easy the Vorlons clearly showed that they wanted to control
the development of we lesser races. Dam Anal retntives

Carl

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[CTRL] Divorcing the Dictator

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan

an excerpt from:
Divorcing the Dictator
Fredrick Kempe©1990
Putnam
ISBN 0-399-13517-0
469 pps. - First Edition/only edition -- Out-of-print
-
--"The CIA made an honest case," said one of the meeting's attendees. "You
cannot have a relationship with people for many, many years and suddenly
sever it without repercussions. The U.S. was like a spider in a web, and
every little move in the net had repercussions."--

--One call was to Lewis's banker, Jackson T. Stephens, in Little Rock,
Arkansas, who was desperate to get his friend and client to safety. Jack
Stephens had accumulated one of the world's biggest fortunes at his
investment banking firm of Stephens, Inc. by quietly disregarding Wall
Street. He provided special services to customers, but seldom of the kind he
gave Lewis that day. Stephens phoned his former classmate at the Naval
Academy, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral William Crowe.
Stephens asked Crowe to help get Lewis out of the jam. Crowe phoned the
Southern Command, and within minutes General Woerner sent over a
black-paneled truck with some plainclothes bodyguards to protect Lewis and
help him escape Panama.--

Om
K
-
As Noriega's power grew, Diaz Herrera came to believe that General Noriega's
strength came partly from Ivan Trilha, his Brazilian psychic and mentalist,
and partly from Noriega's broad mixture of beliefs ranging from Buddhism to
the Afro-Caribbean black magic beliefs subscribed to by many Panamanian
officers. How else could such a small and insigificant man have come so far?

Consequently, in early October 1986 he went to Buenos Aires to find his own
sorcerer. Friends put him in touch with an eighty-eight-year-old yogi named
Indra Devi, whose powers convinced Diaz Herrera there was another way to take
on Noriega—through Prana, the vital breath that sustains life and is issued
as energy from pure substances such as fruit. She made him hold an apple in
one outstretched, clenched fist and a cigarette in the other. The frail woman
was unable to pull down the arm with the apple, but the fist with the
cigarette fell easily. Diaz Herrera was converted.

Through this elderly yogi, Diaz Herrera met a California psychic who would
become his constant companion and secret weapon against Noriega. She was
Shama Calhourn, whose exotic, brown-skinned beauty in a white sari and white
fingernails captivated the colonel. She and the old woman were both
disciplines of Satya Sai Baba, who they said was a human reincarnation of God
who lived in the Indian desert near Bangalore. A cobra had entered his crib
as a child, but never hurt him. Ever since then, the boy had performed
miracles: making instruments play by themselves and food appear from nothing.

Surely, thought Diaz Herrera, Noriega could do little to combat such power.
Shama Calhourn read Diaz Herrera's future. She asked him to look at her third
eye, located at the middle of her forehead, so she could read his aura. "Your
mission in life is an historic one," she said. "Nothing can stop you from an
inevitable battle. Don't expect to win right away, for you will be victorious
in the end." The Californian, whom he affectionately called "La Gringa,"
didn't even know Noriega, but who else could she have meant?

"So I started a metaphysical war with Noriega with the assistance of my
psychic from California," Diaz Herrera laughed later. He set up a Sai Baba
temple in his home, complete with lighted candles; he meditated; and he read.
Shama Calhoum also put Diaz Herrera in touch with a spiritualist masseuse
from Miami and a Los Angeles nutritionist, whom the chief of staff flew to
Panama at government expense.

Diaz Herrera hoped Noriega would see his enemy was now armed for spiritual
warfare. By early 1987, Diaz Herrera all but forgot he was chief of staff.
His passion was Sai Baba, whose color photograph-complete with crossed legs,
long black hair, beads, and bare chest—he posted on his bedroom wall.

Jose de Jesus Martinez ("Chuchu"), who gained world fame for being the
central figure in Graham Greene's book Getting to Know the General, thought
Diaz Herrera wanted to believe so badly he overlooked Shama Calhourn's
mistakes. On a long-distance call, Diaz Herrera asked the Californian to tell
Chuchu what his ailments were. "You are having problems with your eyes."

"She's brilliant, isn't she?" asked Diaz Herrera. Chuchu, who had nothing
wrong with his eyes, remained silent. He understood the attraction when
Calhourn arrived in Panama for personal service.

"She was the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, with skin so soft that it
should only have been touched by a blind man," Chuchu would say later.

Yet the crazier Diaz Herrera acted, the less Noriega worried about him.
Noriega knew his plot was working when he heard that Chuchu, long a friend to
Diaz Herrera, alleged that he had been chained like a dog in Diaz Herrera's
basement and made to bark. Noriega's own psychic, Ivan Trilha, also told him
that Diaz Herrera's 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

 sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and

accepted.



Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different,
that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power
we don't have, that doesn't make them our superiors.

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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oh, so using that logic, western society is more moral than South
  Pacific tribes, because western society developed the A-bomb and the
  Pacific islanders did not...therefore, we were morally justified in
  forceably evicting the residents of the Bikini atolls from their
  centuries-old home so that we could use it for our nuclear tests...

  Were the developers of Iron Age tools morally superior to their Stone
  Age ancestors?  Were their Bronze Age decendents then morally superior
  to themselves?

   It was terribly obvious what I meant about technology.

Yes, 'terribly' is the key word here.

You stated that only beings that had attained a certain high calibre of
morality would be 'allowed' ('allowed' by whom, I wonder) to attain
higher levels of technology.

Basically saying that if residents of another planet have attained the
technological means to travel here, then for some reason they must be of
a higher moral calibre than we are...

Using that logic then implies that western culture is more 'moral' than
cultures which haven't attained the level of technology that we have,
that we have been 'allowed' to attain more technology than them because
God is on our side

That was the argument the European explorers used to conquer and enslave
native peoples around the worldand was the justification Europe and
the U.S. used in the last century to justify their colonial policies.
After all, white culture was "Christian" culture, giving whites the moral
justification to subjugate other races who just happen to worship another
way.  Christian missionaries argued that they brought about a 'spiritual
awakening' in all the people they converted, too...


 Either you're not wired-up to understand plain English

Oh, I understand the implied racism in your statement very well...


 or you're deliberately saying
 off-the-wall things for whatever reasons of your own (hey, I'm quick).

No, I'm just explaining what your philosophy really means, because it's
obvious you have never thought out the full implications of it.  Or perhaps
you have...


   I'm sure that you'll retort that I never shared anything of substance to
 begin with, so let me just save you one of your 7 per day posts/email address
 and let the insult just hang there for you.

We've already covered this.  You admitted that this is your personal opinion,
which is fine.  I have no problem with personal opinion presented as such.  My
objection is with people like Nicky Molloy presenting personal opinion and
claiming it is FACT.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Naval Reserve Comm Willard H.Miller on UFO Situation

2000-06-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Given Miller's various pursuits and his military carrer, as well as his affiliations 
it is reasonable to
presume that he is an "intelligence agent" of one kind or another.  Given his remarks 
and clear willingness
to be associated with UFO groups it stands to reason that what he says is highly 
suspect, and could be
disinformation.  Also setting up meetings at the Pentagon is NOT a big deal, just as 
the one editor said.
And the fact that many people in government "are interested in the subject" has 
nothing to do with what
level that interest is at and what they are doing (or have the power to do) to get it 
resolved.  Remember
Clinton supposedly wanted a closer look at the UFO situation, the Kennedy 
assassination and Area-51.  Well
he didn't do anything to enlighten anybody, if he found out anything at all.

And hey, remember Jimmy Carter before he was elected,
admitted to having seen at least one UFO, and promised
to get to 'the truth' of UFOs once elected to office...

We're still waiting...  ;-)


June

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[CTRL] Ronald Reagan - Actor, Airhead, or What?

2000-06-07 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ronald Reagan - Actor, Airhead, or What?
Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 8:11 PM

 BOOKSPublished Sunday, May 7, 2000, in the Miami Herald

Airhead, actor or achiever?

Ronald Reagan and his legacy of `Star Wars'
*  Way Out There in the Blue: Reagan and Star Wars and the End of the
Cold War. Frances Fitzgerald. Simon  Schuster. 592 pages. $30.

BY IKE SEAMANS
Dismissed even by his official biographer as an ``apparent airhead''
with ``encyclopedic ignorance,'' Ronald Reagan makes an easy target.
Even books written by former close associates (more than a dozen) call
the ex-president a simpleton, a puppet, a man totally unprepared and
detached from reality.
According to Donald Regan, a former chief of staff, Reagan rarely
worried about presidential burdens, because he'd been ``learning his
lines, composing his facial expression, and hitting his toe marks for
half a century.'' In short, he was ``just an actor.''
ALL THE PUTDOWNS
In case you've missed any of the other endless putdowns, Frances
Fitzgerald's exhaustive research for Way Out There in the Blue has found
them all. Fitzgerald is no Reagan fan, but the Pulitzer Prize winner
(Fire in the Lake) concludes the man was no dope, and anyone who
believes differently really hasn't studied closely enough his life and
career. While she gives many examples of Reagan's detachment on the job
and how he left the details and frequently the decisions to others,
Fitzgerald writes that Reagan was the quintessential homespun Everyman,
rooted in 19th Century Protestant beliefs of national greatness; someone
with whom people could quickly and easily identify; a great storyteller
and superb speechwriter as well as performer once he found something
close to his heart.
Fitzgerald writes that the proof of Reagan's success was his ability to
restore national morale even while the achievements of his
administration seemed elusive. To make her point, Fitzgerald casts what
she calls a ``magnifying glass'' on Reagan's pet program and perhaps his
legacy: the Strategic Defense Initiative, SDI, or ``Star Wars.''
What other president, Fitzgerald argues, could persuade the country it
desperately needed something that did not and could not exist in the
foreseeable future: an umbrella-like shield of space-based weapons to
ward off destruction from Soviet missiles? ``SDI was surely Reagan's
greatest triumph as an actor-storyteller,'' she writes.
Reagan announced SDI in March 1983, just a few weeks after he had called
the Soviet Union the ``Evil Empire'' in an Orlando speech.
The concept was promptly rejected as unworkable science fiction by most
experts, including many within the administration, but SDI became
Reagan's greatest sales job when the public overwhelmingly endorsed it.
It also led to four ground-breaking summit meetings with Soviet Premier
Gorbachev who tried and failed to get Reagan to discard the project, one
his financially strapped country could not match. Fitzgerald presents
arguments, pro and con, on whether this is what caused the Soviet
Union's collapse and the end of the Cold War. She does credit Reagan
with declaring its demise long before the experts dared to do so.
Ironically, many early opponents now support the SDI concept, which is
the subject of mushrooming scholarly studies and government research.
FILM INFLUENCES
Fitzgerald writes about a University of California professor who is
convinced Reagan was greatly influenced by a 1940 movie, Murder in the
Air, in which he played a secret agent protecting an ``Inertia
Projector,'' which could destroy all enemy aircraft and ``make the
United States invincible in war.''
And in Alfred Hitchcock's Torn Curtain, a 1966 film about the
development of an anti-missile system, secret agent Paul Newman
declares, ``we will produce a defensive weapon that will make all
nuclear weapons obsolete and thereby abolish the terror of nuclear
warfare,'' language almost identical to Reagan's when he announced SDI
in 1983.
Fitzgerald's book also provides a complicated behind-the-scenes look at
U.S.-Soviet relations at a dangerous time of summitry, arms control, the
Iran-Contra scandal, a president oblivious to White House in-fighting
among advisers and Cabinet members and the end of the Cold War.
Fitzgerald's apparent effort to include everything she knows (which is a
lot), sometimes makes this long, rambling but fascinating history
plodding.
Still, Way Out There in the Blue will fill gaps and provoke discussion
and controversy. But readers interested mainly in the psychohistory of
our most puzzling president should stick to the first few chapters, into
which most of the juicy stuff is crammed.
Ike Seamans is senior correspondent for WTVJ-NBC 6.



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[CTRL] Fwd: ‘Slavemaster’ murder case widens

2000-06-07 Thread Aleisha Saba

This is another interesting case and the mobile home business is subject
to close scrutiny also. A traveling serial killer.

Intent of sending this is beware of Predators on the Web who would talk
pillow talk.  Many times in the past several years, I have had these
people attempt to get into off list discussions, but one never knows
with whom, one is speaking.

Think about this - Littleton.   Is this how these two kids were
programmed into killing their classmates?   Note also nothing is done
about pornogrpahy on the web; that is perfectly alright, but do not let
a teenager expose mistreatment at school.

It will be interesting to see who and what in particular, this Robinson
is.  Did he prey upon women who had money?   Beware of any discussions
where information is gleaned from little clues - for instance, a widow
might have her own home, or a young divorcee might have her own home and
out there are predators ready to pounce.

The worst conspiracy of all now going on in this country according to a
close friend, is predators pouncing on the elderly with funds in banks
and property.   A frog he would a wooing go.

I carefully avoid anything that asks about income, for this is now how
these people work collecting financial intelligence first.

So watch out for the would be Don Juan's on the web who would whisper
sweet nothing$$ in your ear and sometimes looking for place to roost
while contemplating killing goose with golden eggs.

A Saba


'Slavemaster' murder case widens  Police look into suspect's ties

to Internet chat rooms, Web sites  James

Edward Robinson Sr. is believed by police to have used the Internet
alias "slavemaster" to lure women to their deaths.

 MSNBC

June 7 —  A serial murder suspect who police believe went by the
alias "slavemaster" on Internet chat rooms might also have posted and
sold sadomasochistic photos online of women, an investigator told
MSNBC.com. In addition, James Edward Robinson Sr. might be connected to
an SM Web site and police computer experts are investigating those and
other Internet leads, Lenexa police captain John Meier said.
   
 
 
 
  Two women claimed Robinson sexually assaulted them, which led to the
discovery of the bodies of two other women buried in 55-gallon drums on
his property.
       POLICE ARE focusing on the chat room leads, Meier said,
but the possibility exists that Robinson, who also went by the name
James Turner, sold SM photos online and frequented SM Web sites.
       MSNBC.com found the name "J. Turner" on one such Web
site, and Meier said there's a good chance that belongs to Robinson.
       Robinson is not talking, however, and identifying the
five bodies found on his property will be "extremely difficult," Meier
said in earlier comments to NBC's "Today" show.
       Authorities were also continuing the search for more
bodies, draining a pond on land owned by Robinson. He is being held on
$5 million bond on charges he sexually assaulted two women and is
expected to be charged in the murders by week's end.
       
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       One victim was identified by The Kansas City Star as
Suzette Trouten, 28, who had recently moved to the Kansas City area from
Monroe County, Mich.
       But Meier said that identifying the other victims would
be "extremely difficult" due to the state of the bodies and the
probability that the women came from different parts of the country.
       The bodies of two women were found Saturday stuffed in
barrels on rural property in La Cygne, Kan., belonging to Robinson. The
bodies of three other women were found Monday in 55-gallon drums in a
storage locker Robinson rented 30 miles away in Raymore, Mo.
       Autopsies showed the victims died of blunt trauma to the
head, authorities said.
       Investigators searching for more victims began draining a
pond on Robinson's property Tuesday afternoon and were to resume
Wednesday.
       
BACKGROUND TO CASE
       The case began three months ago as a missing persons
investigation. It gained momentum after two women came forward to accuse
Robinson, 56, of sexual assault.
   •MSNBC Cable coverage
Watch MSNBC Cable for coverage of this and other stories      
 He was arrested last Friday and charged with sexually assaulting the
women, whom he met on the Internet and with whom he agreed to have
sadomasochistic sex.
       The two women told authorities they objected to Robinson
photographing them in sexual poses and said he brutalized them in a way
that went beyond what they intended. One of the women had traveled from
Texas to have a sexual encounter with Robinson in April.
       Robinson was arrested at his home at a mobile home park
in Olathe, Kan., managed by his wife. Dozens of photographs of women and
computer equipment were confiscated and his arrest led to the
discoveries of two bodies the next day.
   Crime  PunishmentComplete coverage
from MSNBC.com•Add to your list of bookmarked sites
       The bodies found near La Cygne 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread Robert F. Tatman

On the money.  There seems to be an innate need on the part of our species,
and the species closest to us, to *worship* forces we don't understand...and
even forces we *do* understand or think we understand, such as the "market."

Leaving aside legitimate theological considerations as not germane to either
the list or the thread, I think it's safe to say that the
ultra/infra/metaterrestrials are no less and no more "natural" than us
hoomin beans.  They are *there*, they exist, they have abilities we don't
have.  The image-projection ability I have postulated is a logical one,
either for a predator or for prey.  There is some evidence that the human
telepathic ability was once much more common, especially among our hunting
ancestors; I am convinced on the basis of personal observation that cats and
dogs retain this ability.  "Throwing a glamour" over one's prey is no less
out of the question than is the idea of a duck hunter camouflaging his blind
and using a duck call and decoys to attract his "victims."

Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why does
time seem altered for those they have captured?

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
  sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and

 accepted.



 Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different,
 that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power
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[CTRL] Fwd: 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan





http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/2607_xcsof_cash_regis.shtml


  'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing


  Li Ka-Shing is no ordinary billionaire. Mr. Li's company
  currently operates the two ports on the Panama Canal,
  the Pacific port of Balboa and the Atlantic port of
  Cristobal. According to recently declassified documents
  from the U.S. Commerce Department, Li Ka-Shing is a
  very special man in Beijing, Washington and Hong
  Kong.

  "Li is reputed to have a close business relationship with
  key figures in Beijing," states an August 1999 from the
  American Embassy in Hong Kong. "And he has a
  number of real estate and infrastructure projects in the
  mainland. These close relationships were said to be key
  to his obtaining the prime site on Beijing's Wangfujing
  for his USD2 billion Oriental Plaza Project. Some have
  suggested that it was because of Li's mainland
  connections that the man behind the 1996 kidnapping of
  his son Victor was arrested last year in China and
  swiftly executed. Li is a leading member of Hong
  Kong's ethnic Chinese business elite, a tycoon who is no
  democrat. This fact is reflected in his recent claim that
  he canceled a HKD10 billion (USD1.3 billion) project
  because of the unfavorable business climate created by
  Hong Kong's politicized (more democratic) business
  climate."

  The Commerce Department documents also show that
  law enforcement agencies were very concerned about
  Li Ka-Shing's connections to the Triad gangs. A 1995
  cable from the American Embassy in Nassau noted that
  Li Ka-Shing had signed an agreement to build an $88
  million container ship terminal in the Grand Bahamas.
  Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong
  tycoon, the copy list for the cable is addressed to
  several law enforcement agencies such as the Customs
  Service and the Drug Enforcement Agency.

  "Reftel describes U.S. agencies' security concerns about
  possible smuggling attempts through the terminal," states
  the cable from the American Embassy. "Post will
  request via septel assistance in addressing these
  concerns while port development plans are still on the
  drawing board."

  One document on Li Ka-Shing, previously discovered
  by Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch, a Washington,
  D.C.-based legal watchdog group, came from the U.S.
  Defense Department. According to the October 1999
  "Intelligence Assessment," prepared by the U.S. military
  Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a
  "threat" to the Panama Canal:

  "Hutchison Whampoa's owner, Hong Kong tycoon, Li
  Ka-Shing, has extensive business ties in Beijing and has
  compelling financial reasons to maintain a good
  relationship with China's leadership," states the 1999
  assessment. "For example, Hutchison Whampoa could
  threaten to shift some business from Panama to its
  facilities in the Bahamas, thus giving the company
  additional leverage over the Panamanian government."

  The U.S. military intelligence report concluded:
  "Hutchison's containerized shipping facilities in the
  Panama Canal, as well as the Bahamas, could provide a
  conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited
  items from the west to the PRC, or facilitate the
  movement of arms and other prohibited items into the
  Americas."

  However, the newly released documents from the
  Commerce Department show that current Commerce
  Secretary Daley met with the Beijing tycoon at a 1997
  luncheon hosted by the powerful investment firm
  Goldman Sachs. The Commerce documents note that
  an informal "talk" between Daley, Mr. Li and several
  "influential business people" was held on the Goldman
  Sachs' boat "Monkey's Uncle" during a 1997 Hong
  Kong trade trip.

  "Goldman Sachs' boat ('Monkey's Uncle') will depart
  from 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different,
 that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power
 we don't have, that doesn't make them our superiors.

The problem is, nowadays we have a movement afoot where these beings -- no
better or worse than ourselves -- are now presented as being somehow morally
and spiritually superior to ourselves solely because of their difference
from us...and therefore warrant us giving up our individuality and sovereignty
to these beings, because 'they know better'...


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Slavemaster' murder case widens

2000-06-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent of sending this is beware of Predators on the Web who would talk
pillow talk.

Don't worry...the LAST person from the Internet I'd consider meeting in
person is someone into SM who goes by the moniker 'slavemaster'...

As much as I hate when people blame the victims, I really have to wonder
what was going through the minds of all these women when they agreed to
meet this guy, especially to travel to another state to meet him...


It will be interesting to see who and what in particular, this Robinson
is.  Did he prey upon women who had money?   Beware of any discussions
where information is gleaned from little clues - for instance, a widow
might have her own home, or a young divorcee might have her own home and
out there are predators ready to pounce.

My guess is that it will be found that most of the women had no family,
or little contact with their family.  In other words, they were basically
on their own.  That explains why all these women could go missing, and
no one seems to have noticed.  Or if it WAS noticed, anyone back home who
cared enough to file a missing persons report had no idea their relative
or friend had travelled out of state to meet someone they'd met in a
SM chatroom...


The worst conspiracy of all now going on in this country according to a
close friend, is predators pouncing on the elderly with funds in banks
and property.   A frog he would a wooing go.

This doesn't sound like that sort of case, altho it probably wouldn't
have hurt (no pun intended) if his intended victims had some discretionary
funds they could be convinced to bring with them to the intended
rendezvous site.

Sounds like these were younger women, and that this guy was more a sexual
predator than a con artist after their money...


I carefully avoid anything that asks about income, for this is now how
these people work collecting financial intelligence first.

Same here.  In fact, anything on the net that asks for age, education,
income, I deliberately lie...to present myself as the least desirable
'demographic' possible...


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Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why does
 time seem altered for those they have captured?

Perhaps the time alteration is due to their interdimensionality...the 'space'
they inhabit is doesn't intersect, or only intersects at one finite point, with
our 'time-space continuum'...

As to WHY they wish to attract and capture us...well, humanity has basically
debated that question for millenia (if we accept that what humanity has in the
past labeled 'angels', 'demons', 'faieries', 'devas', 'wee folk', etc. are now
called 'aliens')...

Why did faieries abduct humans in the past (if there is any basis to old folk
tales?)?  Why are angels and demons concerned with us?


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[CTRL] THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS [Monsanto/Cow's Milk]

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

THE AGE OF DISCOVERY
DISPELLING MYTHS

MILK IS NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD FOR HUMANS
*Note from Sender:  It is of utmost importance that you go to:
http://www.notmilk.com/
where the Milk Conspiracy is exposed.

*CLINTON LIE causes disease and suffering .
http://www.notmilk.com/impeach.html

Historically, the greatest myths are the most difficult to dislodge from
the collective psyche.  Those who dispel myths are first labeled as
fanatics.  Throughout history, custom has rejected truth and punished
visionaries.  Schoepenhouer wrote:

"All truth goes through three stages.  First it is ridiculed.  Then it
is violently opposed.  Finally it is accepted as self evident."

THE WORLD IS FLAT

In the year 1500, Christopher Columbus was thrown into chains for having
proven to mankind that the world was not flat, thereby dispelling the
greatest scientific and cultural myth of the second millennium.  In
between his third and fourth voyages to the New World, Columbus brought
back a number of gifts to the Old World.  Christopher Columbus had
become a slave dealer, but his best known gift to Europe may very well
have been disease called morbus gallicus, which infected millions. After
much of Europe was overwhelmed, the affliction was renamed after a
shepherd from Greek mythology who angered Apollo by not worshipping the
gods.  Apollo infected the air with noxious vapors and the shepherd
broke out in ulcerous eruptions all over his body.  The shepherd's name
was Syphilis.

Many of Columbus's doubters went to their deathbeds still believing that
the world was flat.  To this day, there are still people who believe
that same myth:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm

THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH

Galileo had turned his attention to a new frontier, the heavens, and in
doing so, angered religious leaders.  By placing lenses inside of a
tube, Galileo's primitive telescope allowed him to discover four moons
revolving around the planet Jupiter.  His invention was destroyed and
Galileo imprisoned.  Man's laws gave this fanatic and visionary two
choices: remain in prison or recant his discovery and previous
testimony. Galileo had no choice but to exist in a world in which his
truth became a threat to the men of his time.  Dispelling myths has
always been dangerous to one's health.  Those who lead are often
compared to Cervante's Don Quixote, who tilted at windmills.

TRUTH'S THREE STAGES

The NOTMILK.COM Website is a dispellers of America's greatest myth.
Those who strongly endorse drinking body fluids from cows are the ones
who most adamantly attack the author of those sites.

Ridicule and sarcasm pepper some of the more creative letters posted to
the two guestbooks.  Among the more than 1,300 letters are death threats
and anti-Semitic comments that would make Hitler proud. Schoepenhouer's
formula applies to the Dairy Education Board and the NOTMILK movement.

Denial + Violent Opposition = Truth

All truth must suffer the same indignity by skeptics who resist change,
desiring to kill the messenger during their learning process.

HOW DO MYTHS CONTINUE?

The dairy industry recognizes that if mothers drink milk at home, then
so will their children.  Next year's advertising will target at-home
moms.  Just as their parents urged them to drink milk when they were
youngsters, so will today's parents do the same to their kids.  The
dairy industry constantly markets and promotes their product with
hundreds of millions of advertising dollars.

THE EXPERT'S OPINIONS

Out of the mouths of babes often come pearls of wisdom; out of the
mouths of those who we respect often come the vilest of lies and the
most myopic conjectures leaving mankind far from the truth.

Here is a list of eight of my favorite bloopers, as told by people
society believed and trusted.  I reserved the number one myth and
betrayal for the last.

1) "Everything that can be invented has been invented."

Charles Duell, Commissioner of the U.S. Patent Office, advised President
McKinley to close that office in 1899

-

2) "That's an amazing invention, but who would ever want to use one of
them?"

President Rutherford B. Hayes after trying the first telephone in a
hook-up between Washington and Philadelphia

-

3) "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes
and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum
tubes and perhaps weigh only 1 1/2 tons."

POPULAR MECHANICS magazine, March, 1949

-

4) "The seat of the soul and the control of voluntary movement-in fact,
of nervous functions in general, are to be sought in the heart.  The
brain is an organ of minor importance.

Aristotle, 400 B.C.

-

5) "Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons
released by vegetation.  So let's not go overboard in setting and
enforcing tough 

[CTRL] BIOTECH IN TROUBLE

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

BIOTECH IN TROUBLE

The agricultural biotechnology industry's situation is desperate and
deteriorating. To be sure, genetically engineered (GE) food is still
selling briskly on grocery shelves in the U.S. but probably only because
GE products are not labeled, so consumers have no idea what they're
buying.

At present, an estimated 2/3rds of all products for sale in U.S. grocery
stores contain genetically engineered (GE) crops, none of which are
labeled as such.[1] However, polls show that U.S. consumers
overwhelmingly want GE foods labeled. In a TIME magazine poll in
January, 1999, 81 percent of respondents said genetically engineered
foods should be labeled.[2] A month earlier, a poll of U.S. consumers by
the Swiss drug firm Novartis had found that more than 90% of the public
wants labeling.[3] The NEW YORK TIMES reported late last year that a
"biotech industry poll" showed that 93% of Americans want genetically
engineered foods labeled.[4] Legislation requiring labels on GE foods
was introduced into Congress last November by a bi-partisan group of 20
legislators.[5]

For five years the GE food industry has been saying GE foods couldn't be
labeled because it would require segregating GE from non-GE crops -- a
practical impossibility, they said. However, in December, 1999, Monsanto
announced that it had developed a new strain of rapeseed (a crop used to
make canola cooking oil) that might raise the levels of vitamin A in
humans.[6] How could consumers identify (and pay a premium price for)
such a product if it weren't labeled? Obviously labeling will become
possible -- indeed, essential -- when it serves the interests of the
biotech corporations.

Many food suppliers seem to have figured out for themselves how to
segregate GE crops from non-GE. According to the NEW YORK TIMES,
Kellogg's, Kraft Foods, McDonald's, Nestle USA, and Quaker Oats all sell
gene-altered foods in the U.S. but not overseas.[7] Gerber and H.J.
Heinz announced some time ago that they have managed to exclude
genetically modified crops from their baby foods.

For its part, the U.S. government has steadfastly maintained that
labeling of GE foods is not necessary -- and might even be misleading --
because traditional crops and GE crops are "substantially equivalent."
For example, the government has maintained that Monsanto's "New Leaf"
potato -- which has been genetically engineered to incorporate a
pesticide into every cell in the potato, to kill potato beetles -- is
substantially equivalent to normal potatoes, even though the New Leaf
potato is, itself, required to be registered as a pesticide with U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). (See REHW #622.)

Now the government's position has become untenable. In February of this
year, the government signed the international BioSafety Protocol, a
treaty with 130 other nations, in which all signatories agree that
genetically modified crops are significantly different from traditional
crops. Thus with the swipe of a pen, the U.S. government has now
formally acknowledged that GE crops are not "substantially equivalent"
to traditional crops. Meanwhile, a groundswell of consumer protest
reached a crescendo last year in England and Europe, then spread to
Japan and the U.S. where it has severely eroded investor confidence in
the industry. Major U.S. firms that had invested heavily in the
technology are now being forced to pull back. As we reported earlier
(REHW #685), Monsanto, Novartis, and AstraZeneca all announced in early
January that they are turning away from -- or abandoning entirely -- the
concept of "life sciences" -- a business model that combines
pharmaceuticals and agricultural products. The NEW YORK TIMES reported
in January that American Home Products -- a pharmaceutical giant -- "has
been looking for a way to unload its agricultural operations." At that
time the TIMES also said, "Analysts have speculated that Monsanto will
eventually shed its entire agricultural operation."[8] In late February,
DuPont announced that it was returning to its traditional industrial
chemical business to generate profits. The WALL STREET JOURNAL said
February 23, "But the big plans DuPont announced for its pharmaceuticals
and biotech divisions fizzled as consolidation changed the landscape,
and investor enthusiasm cooled in the face of controversy over
genetically engineered crops."[9]

Investors are not the only ones turning away from genetically engineered
foods. The WALL STREET JOURNAL announced in late April that "fast-food
chains such as McDonald's Corp. are quietly telling their french-fry
suppliers to stop using" Monsanto's pesticidal New Leaf potato.
"Virtually all the [fast food] chains have told us they prefer to take
nongenetically modified potatoes," said a spokesperson for the J.M.
Simplot Company of Boise, Idaho, a major potato supplier.[10] The
JOURNAL also reported that Procter and Gamble, maker of Pringles potato
chips, is phasing out Monsanto's pesticidal potato. And Frito-Lay --

[CTRL] DRUDGE: Details too hot, even for the web.

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

TALK/MIRAMAX AUTHOR TAGGED STARR STAFFERS 'FAGS AND FAGGOTS'; BOOK PROJECT
EXPLORES SEX LIVES OF TINA BROWN'S OWN 'FRIENDS'

**Exclusive**

"This guy John Connolly kept using the term 'fags' and 'faggots' when he
asked me about lawyers who worked for Ken Starr and others in Washington."

That is the shocking charge by former congressional investigator Dave Bossie
against author John Connolly -- an author who is writing a book financed by
DISNEY! [NYSE:DIS]

"Connolly then spread around town that I was gay because I volunteer for a
local Fire Department," laughs Bossie. "This is crazy. I am surprised that
Tina Brown is financing this."

The DRUDGE REPORT obtained a working manuscript of a book commissioned by
DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX.

In Chapter 5 of the work, titled 'And The Band Played On', Connolly claims
that former Independent Counsel Ken Starr was blackmailed by political
operatives.

Connolly describes Starr as being a "disturbed housewife in a 'B' movie".

It can now be revealed that the book not only digs deep into the private sex
lives and business dealings of major and minor Clinton critics, but
Connolly's working manuscript also features derogatory sex slurs against
impeachment players!

Details too hot, even for the web.

"Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people who were
behind the Lewinsky case," writes author John Connolly, in a working
introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE.

"Why, Tina? Why?" demanded a supporter and close friend of TALK editoress
Tina Brown after learning he was a subject.

Best-selling author Chris Buckley [son of William F. Buckley] expressed
complete outrage that his sex life is being explored.

"Tina appears to be throwing her friends out with the bath water," said a
publishing source who worked with both Brown and Buckley at the NEW YORKER.

Author John Connolly's claims to have unearthed an affair between Buckley
and a major Lewinsky player.

When contacted this week, both parties called the claim outrageous and
false.

The TALK project even explores fellow DISNEY employees, the DRUDGE REPORT
can reveal.

ABC NEWS reporter Jackie Judd and her producer Chris Vlasto, among others,
come under the microscope.

TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed earlier this week that
Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE and the author has received
a cash advance, but Burnham cautioned that "no decisions have been made"
about the book's eventual content.

Tina Brown and Harvey Weinstein, her main partner in the firm and the
chairman of Miramax Films, are friends of the Clintons.

Brown and Weinstein have both contributed maximum cash donations permitted
by law to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.

Brown was a recent guest at a White House dinner, records show.

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Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
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Re: [CTRL] UNDERGROUND TUNNELS__GIF image 679x480 pi

2000-06-07 Thread Tenorlove

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 Nicky,  is there a web address for this picture, for those who don't
 download
 from emails?

Samantha, download it onto a FLOPPY, run your virus checker on the
floppy, and then open the file.

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Re: [CTRL] Shipboard Abortions Planned For 3rd World Women

2000-06-07 Thread Tenorlove

--- Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Top News Headlines June 6, 2000 -- 8:56 PM


 Shipboard Abortions Planned For Third World Women

 AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CNSNews) -- Pregnant women in mostly Third
 World
 nations where abortions are illegal will be offered abortions onboard
 a ship
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Yep, can't have those 3rd world pickaninnies using up resources that
rightly belong to superior peoples like Dutch doctors.

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[CTRL] Nato 'deliberately attacked civilians in Serbia'

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[A better heading: "Amnesty International v. the International
War Crimes Tribunal" (But, hey, isn't Clinton above the law?).
Besides, this is old news...at least it is here on CTRL.  --MS]

From Independent News, UK

Nato 'deliberately attacked civilians in Serbia'

By Robert Fisk  7 June 2000

Only five days after Nato was "exonerated" by the International
War Crimes Tribunal for its killing of civilians in Yugoslavia
last year, Amnesty International today publishes a blistering
attack on the Alliance, accusing it of committing serious
violations of the rules of war, unlawful killings and – in the
case of the bombing of Serbia's television headquarters – a war
crime.

The 65-page Amnesty report details a number of mass killings of
civilians in Nato raids and states that "civilian deaths could
have been significantly reduced if Nato forces had fully adhered
to the rules of war".

Legalistic in nature but damning in content – the document
reminds readers that Amnesty repeatedly condemned Serb atrocities
against Kosovo Albanians – the report highlights inconsistencies
and obfuscation by Nato's official spokesmen.

Although Nato told Amnesty that pilots operated under "strict
Rules of Engagement", it refused to disclose details of the
"rules" or the principles underlying them.  The report says:
"They did not answer specific questions Amnesty International
raised about specific incidents ..."

Amnesty records that Nato aircraft flew 10,484 strike missions
over Serbia and that Serbian statistics of civilian deaths in
Nato raids range from 400-600 up to 1,500.  It specifically
condemns Nato for an attack on a bridge at Varvarin on 30 May
last year, which killed at least 11 civilians.  "Nato forces
failed to suspend their attack after it was evident that they had
struck civilians," Amnesty says.

When it attacked convoys of Albanian refugees near Djakovica on
14 April and in Korisa on 13 May, "Nato failed to take necessary
precautions to minimise civilian casualties".

The report says Nato repeatedly gave priority to pilots' safety
at the cost of civilian lives.  In several investigations of
civilian deaths, Amnesty quotes from reports in The Independent,
including an investigation into the bombing of a hospital at
Surdulica on 31 May. The Independent disclosed in November that
Serb soldiers were sheltering on the ground floor of the hospital
when it was bombed but that all the casualties were civilian
refugees living on the upper floors.

Amnesty says: "If Nato intentionally bombed the hospital complex
because it believed it was housing soldiers, it may well have
violated the laws of war.  According to Article 50(3) of Protocol
1, [of the Geneva Conventions] 'the presence within the civilian
population of individuals who do not come within the definition
of civilians does not deprive the population of its civilian
character'.

"The hospital complex was clearly a civilian object with a large
civilian population, the presence of soldiers would not have
deprived the civilians or the hospital compound of their
protected status." Some of Amnesty's harshest criticism is
directed at the 23 April bombing of Serb television headquarters.
"General Wesley Clark has stated, 'We knew when we struck that
there would be alternate means of getting the Serb Television.
There's no single switch to turn off everything but we thought it
was a good move to strike it, and the political leadership agreed
with us.' "In other words, Nato deliberately attacked a civilian
object, killing 16 civilians, for the purpose of disrupting Serb
television broadcasts in the middle of the night for
approximately three hours.  It is hard to see how this can be
consistent with the rule of proportionality."

On 17 May last year, Nato's secretary general, Javier Solana,
wrote to Amnesty in response to its "grave concern" over the TV
bombing, stating that RTS (Serb Radio and Television) facilities
"are being used as radio relay stations and transmitters to
support the activities of the ... military and special police
forces, and therefore they represent legitimate military
targets".

But at a meeting with Nato officials in Brussels early this year
Amnesty was informed that Mr Solana's reference "was to other
attacks on RTS infrastructure and not this particular attack on
RTS headquarters."

The US Defense Department, Amnesty recalls, justified the
television station bombing because it was "a facility used for
propaganda purposes" and Amnesty itself says that Tony Blair
"appeared to be hinting [in a subsequent BBC documentary] that
one of the reasons that the station was targeted was because its
video footage of the human toll of Nato mistakes ... was being
re-broadcast by Western media outlets and was thereby undermining
support for the war within the alliance".

Of the Nato destruction of the train at Gurdulica bridge on 12
April, Amnesty says: "Nato's explanation of the bombing –
particularly General Clark's account of the pilot's rationale for

[CTRL] 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/2607_xcsof_cash_regis.shtml


  'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing


  Li Ka-Shing is no ordinary billionaire. Mr. Li's company
  currently operates the two ports on the Panama Canal,
  the Pacific port of Balboa and the Atlantic port of
  Cristobal. According to recently declassified documents
  from the U.S. Commerce Department, Li Ka-Shing is a
  very special man in Beijing, Washington and Hong
  Kong.

  "Li is reputed to have a close business relationship with
  key figures in Beijing," states an August 1999 from the
  American Embassy in Hong Kong. "And he has a
  number of real estate and infrastructure projects in the
  mainland. These close relationships were said to be key
  to his obtaining the prime site on Beijing's Wangfujing
  for his USD2 billion Oriental Plaza Project. Some have
  suggested that it was because of Li's mainland
  connections that the man behind the 1996 kidnapping of
  his son Victor was arrested last year in China and
  swiftly executed. Li is a leading member of Hong
  Kong's ethnic Chinese business elite, a tycoon who is no
  democrat. This fact is reflected in his recent claim that
  he canceled a HKD10 billion (USD1.3 billion) project
  because of the unfavorable business climate created by
  Hong Kong's politicized (more democratic) business
  climate."

  The Commerce Department documents also show that
  law enforcement agencies were very concerned about
  Li Ka-Shing's connections to the Triad gangs. A 1995
  cable from the American Embassy in Nassau noted that
  Li Ka-Shing had signed an agreement to build an $88
  million container ship terminal in the Grand Bahamas.
  Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong
  tycoon, the copy list for the cable is addressed to
  several law enforcement agencies such as the Customs
  Service and the Drug Enforcement Agency.

  "Reftel describes U.S. agencies' security concerns about
  possible smuggling attempts through the terminal," states
  the cable from the American Embassy. "Post will
  request via septel assistance in addressing these
  concerns while port development plans are still on the
  drawing board."

  One document on Li Ka-Shing, previously discovered
  by Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch, a Washington,
  D.C.-based legal watchdog group, came from the U.S.
  Defense Department. According to the October 1999
  "Intelligence Assessment," prepared by the U.S. military
  Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a
  "threat" to the Panama Canal:

  "Hutchison Whampoa's owner, Hong Kong tycoon, Li
  Ka-Shing, has extensive business ties in Beijing and has
  compelling financial reasons to maintain a good
  relationship with China's leadership," states the 1999
  assessment. "For example, Hutchison Whampoa could
  threaten to shift some business from Panama to its
  facilities in the Bahamas, thus giving the company
  additional leverage over the Panamanian government."

  The U.S. military intelligence report concluded:
  "Hutchison's containerized shipping facilities in the
  Panama Canal, as well as the Bahamas, could provide a
  conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited
  items from the west to the PRC, or facilitate the
  movement of arms and other prohibited items into the
  Americas."

  However, the newly released documents from the
  Commerce Department show that current Commerce
  Secretary Daley met with the Beijing tycoon at a 1997
  luncheon hosted by the powerful investment firm
  Goldman Sachs. The Commerce documents note that
  an informal "talk" between Daley, Mr. Li and several
  "influential business people" was held on the Goldman
  Sachs' boat "Monkey's Uncle" during a 1997 Hong
  Kong trade trip.

  "Goldman Sachs' boat ('Monkey's Uncle') will depart
  

[CTRL] Australian Gun Ban Results: Deadly!

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Wednesday June 7, 2000 12:55 AM EST

Australian Gun Ban Results: Deadly!

Just over a year ago, Australia followed in the footsteps of
mother country Great Britain and made law a total ban on hand
guns.

The gun ban and confiscation program cost the Australian
government more than $500 million.  Sometimes using deadly force,
authorities there collected 640,381 personal firearms.

And now the results are in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent (in a country that has a low homicide rate).

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
percent).

In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300
percent.

Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms - since the gun ban this has changed
for the worse.

There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults on
the elderly.

Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain
how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such
monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in
"ridding society of guns."

An e-mail circulating the Web reveals the harmful effects of the
Australian gun ban, noting that "you won't see this data on the
evening news or hear your governor or members of the state
Assembly disseminating this information."

Another Australian offers a warning: "Guns in the hands of honest
citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws only
affect the law-abiding citizens.  Take note, Californians and
other Americans, before it's too late!"


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[CTRL] Hazel O'Leary was FBI target

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

CHINAGATE

Hazel O'Leary was FBI target

Freeh urged Reno to name independent counsel over bribe

By Paul Sperry © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON -- When Attorney General Janet Reno dropped her
investigation of former Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary for
allegedly taking a bribe, she did so over the advice of her FBI
chief, a long-secret memo reveals.

Johnny Chung, a '96 Clinton-Gore campaign donor, charged in the
summer of 1997 that O'Leary agreed to meet with communist Chinese
oil officials after he donated $25,000 to her favorite charity,
Africare.

"It is clear that the donation was made under extraordinarily
suspicious circumstances that are worthy of additional
investigation," FBI Director Louis Freeh said in a Nov.  24,
1997, memo to Reno.

The memo, sought by Congress for years, was released yesterday by
a House panel probing a possible Justice Department cover-up of
the Chinagate scandal.

On Oct.  17, 1995, Chung met with Democratic National Committee
officials who put him in touch with Corlis Moody, an O'Leary
aide. Moody arranged the money-for-meeting deal, Chung says,
during a meeting in her Energy office in Washington.

The next day, Moody faxed him a letter signed by O'Leary inviting
the Chinese officials to meet with her the next day.  About 90
minutes later, Moody sent an Energy employee to Chung's
Washington apartment to pick up the $25,000 check, made out to
Africare.

On Oct.  19, 1995, Chung and his Chinese delegation of 12 SINOPEC
officials got their meeting with O'Leary in a conference room in
her Energy office suite.  It lasted about an hour.

That night, after a tour of the White House, they met President
Clinton at a dinner benefit for Africare.

"The meetings at the Department of Energy and Africare event show
substantial involvement by DNC officials, including Richard
Sullivan and Don Fowler," Freeh wrote in his 27-page memo.
"Consequently, these events should be further investigated by an
independent counsel."

His memo was written a week before Reno announced her decision
not to seek the appointment of an independent counsel in the
case.

"I have determined that there are no reasonable grounds to
believe that further investigation of Mrs.  O'Leary is
warranted," she said on Dec. 2, 1997.

Reno argued that there was no proof that O'Leary knew of the
meeting between her aide and Chung.  Also, she said the letter to
the Chinese officials was signed by "autopen," not hand, making
it hard to prove "O'Leary had any knowledge of these letters."

But in arguing that, Chung says Reno ignored information he gave
FBI agents who interviewed him.

He says that Moody told him on Oct.  18, 1995, that O'Leary
signed the letter.

"I got her to sign it and we are going to fax it over to you,"
Chung recalled Moody saying.

Also, he says Moody wanted to set up the meeting with O'Leary
after they met in her office on Oct.  17.  But Chung says she
told him that O'Leary had gone home for the night and that they'd
have to set it up in the morning.

What's more, Chung says O'Leary came over to his table at the
Africare benefit and thanked him for his $25,000 check.

O'Leary, who resigned in early 1997, has denied Chung's charges
of a quid pro quo, saying the meeting with the Chinese party was
within the normal course of her official duties.

Chung, who pleaded guilty to violating campaign finance laws and
cooperated fully with the FBI, insists he bought political access
to O'Leary on behalf of his Chinese benefactors.

"I gave $25,000 and I got the meeting.  That's why they need an
independent counsel" to investigate O'Leary, he said in a phone
interview from his Los Angeles office.



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Re: [CTRL] THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS [Monsanto/Cow's Milk]

2000-06-07 Thread Tenorlove

--- Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 THE AGE OF DISCOVERY
 DISPELLING MYTHS

 MILK IS NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD FOR HUMANS
 *Note from Sender:  It is of utmost importance that you go to:
 http://www.notmilk.com/
 where the Milk Conspiracy is exposed.

This link should be given to every pregnant woman, along with this one:
http://www.lalecheleague.org
La Leche League is a mother-to-mother breastfeeding support
organization. Cows' milk is the perfect food--for calves. Human breast
milk is the superior food for human infants.

Tenorlove
who once absent-mindedly picked up someone else's crying baby at a
church supper  was about to nurse when it was pointed out to me that I
had the wrong baby, my own baby sleeping peacefully in an identical car
seat.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [GCFL] Some Douglas Adams Trinkets

2000-06-07 Thread Tenorlove


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"He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he
realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped
that there wasn't an afterlife. "

"The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

"Time, we know, is relative. You can travel light years through the
stars and back, and if you do it at the speed of light then, when
you return, you may have aged mere seconds while your twin brother
or sister will have aged twenty, thirty, forty or however many years
it is, depending on how far you traveled.  This will come to you as
a profound shock, particularly if you didn't know you had a twin
brother or sister."

"[His] study was a total mess, like the results of an explosion in a
public library."

"There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly
what the Universe if for and why it is here, it will instantly
disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and
inexplicable.  There is another which states that this has already
happened."

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."

"For a moment, nothing happened.  Then, after a second or so,
nothing continued to happen."

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their
apparent disinclination to do so."

"I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it."

"If human beings don't keep exercising their lips, he thought, their
mouths probably seize up. After a few months' consideration and
observation he abandoned this theory in favor of a new one. If they
don't keep on exercising their lips, he thought, their brains start
working."

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

"You live and learn. At any rate, you live."

Received from Leon Taylor.

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[CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 17:38:45 +0200
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Subject: News from Hebron:Open letter to Ehud Barak

News from Hebron
The Hebron Press Office
June 7, 2000

THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF HEBRON  / THE HEBRON FUND

WISH ALL OUR FRIENDS A CHAG SHAVUOTH SAMEACH!
**

The following letter appears in this week's Jewish Press and will
appear in tomorrow's Jerusalem Post and Ha'aretz (English
edition) newspapers:

June 5, 2000

Honorable Prime Minister Ehud Barak
Prime Minister's Office
3 Kaplan Street
POB 187
Kiryat Ben Gurion
Jerusalem 91919, Israel

Dear Mr. Barak,

When the Jews of Russia faced persecution, we stood with them.
When the Jews of Iran faced annihilation, we stood for them.
When the Jews of Entebbe faced death, we ran to them.
When the Jews of Ethiopia faced extinction, we brought them home.
When the Jews of Israel faced Iraqi scuds, we stood by them.

We cannot remain silent as Jewish communities in Israel are at
risk of being abandoned.

Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their
freedom, their confidence, and their future.

The memories of our forefathers, of every victim of terror and of
every soldier who died defending our dream face the prospect of
being dishonored even before the tears that mourn their sacrifice
have dried.

When we reclaimed our G-d given land, we did so for eternity.
No one has license to surrender those borders, thus endangering
our people.  No mortal was granted the right to alter biblical
prophecies and obliterate G-d's promise to our forefathers.

To remain on our land while being encircled by those who vow to
drive us into the sea, provides no security.

To abandon our land for a "promise" that we won't be attacked in
the future, provides no future. Let our enemies hold on to their
promises. We will hold on to our homes.

Mr. Barak, every leader leaves a legacy. Yours is becoming clear,
even in your lifetime. For years you have been known as a hero
willing to sacrifice anything to ensure the safety, security and
future of Israel. Do not risk forever being known in Heaven and
Earth as a Jew who lost that perspective, and destroyed more with
the stroke of a pen than our enemies destroyed with their stones.

Respectfully yours,

David Seidermann
President
The Hebron Fund
New York, USA

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[CTRL] Drudge: Clown Posse: more...

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDNESDAY JUNE 07 2000 10:32:17 ET X

TALK/MIRAMAX AUTHOR TAGGED STARR STAFFERS 'FAGS AND FAGGOTS';
BOOK PROJECT EXPLORES SEX LIVES OF TINA BROWN'S OWN 'FRIENDS'

**Exclusive**

"This guy John Connolly kept using the term 'fags' and 'faggots'
when he asked me about lawyers who worked for Ken Starr and
others in Washington."

That is the shocking charge by former congressional investigator
Dave Bossie against author John Connolly -- an author who is
writing a book financed by DISNEY! [NYSE:DIS]

"Connolly then spread around town that I was gay because I
volunteer for a local Fire Department," laughs Bossie. "This is
crazy. I am surprised that Tina Brown is financing this."

The DRUDGE REPORT obtained a working manuscript of a book
commissioned by DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX.

In Chapter 5 of the work, titled 'And The Band Played On',
Connolly claims that former Independent Counsel Ken Starr was
blackmailed by political operatives.

Connolly describes Starr as being a "disturbed housewife in a 'B'
movie".

It can now be revealed that the book not only digs deep into the
private sex lives and business dealings of major and minor
Clinton critics, but Connolly's working manuscript also features
derogatory sex slurs against impeachment players!

Details too hot, even for the web.

"Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people
who were behind the Lewinsky case," writes author John Connolly,
in a working introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE.

"Why, Tina? Why?" demanded a supporter and close friend of TALK
editoress Tina Brown after learning he was a subject.

Best-selling author Chris Buckley [son of William F. Buckley]
expressed complete outrage that his sex life is being explored.

"Tina appears to be throwing her friends out with the bath
water," said a publishing source who worked with both Brown and
Buckley at the NEW YORKER.

Author John Connolly's claims to have unearthed an affair between
Buckley and a major Lewinsky player.

When contacted this week, both parties called the claim
outrageous and false.

The TALK project even explores fellow DISNEY employees, the
DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

ABC NEWS reporter Jackie Judd and her producer Chris Vlasto,
among others, come under the microscope.

TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed earlier this week
that Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE and the
author has received a cash advance, but Burnham cautioned that
"no decisions have been made" about the book's eventual content.

Tina Brown and Harvey Weinstein, her main partner in the firm and
the chairman of Miramax Films, are friends of the Clintons.

Brown and Weinstein have both contributed maximum cash donations
permitted by law to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.

Brown was a recent guest at a White House dinner, records show.


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[CTRL] SEE WHO BOUGHT AND OWN$ WHICH CANDIDATE$!

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

For the first time ever, browse and search an Internet accessible database
of
Federal lobby reports and registrations filed by organizations,
corporations, associations, unions, lobby firms and lobbyists.
This new feature is available for
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What will our children say, when they read the history of these times?
Should they find we tamely gave away without one noble struggle, the most
invaluable of earthly blessings?
As they drag the galling chain, will they not execrate us?
If we have any respect for things sacred;  any regard to the dearest
treasures on earth;  if we have one tender
sentiment for posterity; if we would not be despised by the whole world -
let us in the most open, solemn manner, and with determined fortitude, swear
we will die, if we cannot live free men!"

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Re: [CTRL] [MC] -- remote viewing --

2000-06-07 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 9:41 AM

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   Howard Blum's "Out There: The Government's Secret Quest For
   Extra-Terrestrials"

  Blum is one of those journalists who use "leaks" from covert sources and
  implies that he's getting a scoop. If you've ever had a top secret
  clearance (like I had) you don't talk about secrets. Period. Blum is
  either naive or thinks his readers are. These "leaks" are obvious media
  manipulation. I've worked both sides of the fence (publicist and
  journalist) and in my own experience, many journalists are easily
  manipulated.

  Thus the MJ-12 disinfo in the book from an alleged NSA source, an
  apparent cover story (for what--black surveillance projects, mind
  control ops?).

- - - - +

[Farley / [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I concur with Wes here. As it was widely reported that Blum's "source" was
Col. John Alexander, at a time when Alexander was still working at Los Alamos
when he was heading up an R  D program to think about and develop
"non-lethal weapons" for envisioned "low-intensity conflicts," nothing
Alexander (a former senior officer in the Army Intelligence and Security
Command, INSCOM, and before that a Special Forces officer who was highly
decorated for his service in Vietnam, etc.) would say to a purported
"journalist" like Blum would be anything OTHER than disinformation.

Also, be aware that journalists who work into high levels of access to major
news outlets (NY Times, Wash. Post, CNN, networks) would not be there if they
hadn't come to terms with the realities of what they can say, what they can
ask, and who it is that they really work for. Some things just can't be
allowed to "be true," and the reporters who don't accept that don't get to
play at the uppermost levels. They are, after all, just the "talking heads"
and pretty faces representing a world view of ???

Specific writers who have made decisions to support (or are active players)
in some of the magnificent disinformation initiatives of recent times (about
these topics) are: William J. Broad, NY TIMES, who did the piece on "CIA says
'UFOs' were us." ('95)
Mike Wallace, 60 MINUTES who with producer Don Hewitt is a "navy intell
asset."
Larry King, CNN (his "handlers" are his producers  bookers, as in his "Larry
King Live from Area 51 "UFO show" at the height of the Roswell Crashed-saucer
scam. Blum, of course. Richard Rhodes, the Princetonian who has written
recently about "the bomb" and more recently, "mad cow disease," in which he
glossed over the role of convicted homosexual pedophile (and Nobel laureate)
Dr. D. Carlton Gajdusek. And a host of others, who reflect, as former
Director of Central Intelligence John Deutch said when he was DCI, that
journalists on retainer to the intell community are and will continue to be
important assets. No paranoia required, just discernment!

What gives Blum's bogus motives away is what he left out of "Out There,"
i.e., the overlap of at least SOME so-called "UFO phenomenologies" to exotic
technology, albeit terrestrially developed and deployed for various political
and intelligence ops. It is impossible for a rational journalist to explore
much of so-called "UFOlogy" before coming to at least a preliminary
conclusion that there's an "all-of-the-above" color to the field, in terms of
"what are 'they' and where are 'they' from?", including so-called "mind
control" (actually, the term is 'mind-influencing') technologies (ours 
theirs), as well as cover stories for various developmental aerospace
technology (ours  not ours).

Such transparently bogus "UFO landings" as the Cash-Landrum case, in Texas,
which the government-related "proprietary UFO groups" like MUFON, CUFOS 
FUFOR make so much noise about, and the cult-creating "Gulf Breeze UFOs" of
the late 1980s on the Florida panhandle seacoast, are cases in point.
Although obvious counter-intelligence disinformation operations, complete
with high-level military and political operatives all over the place
pretending to be "New Agers" and UFOlogists, the bottom line is that defense
contractors and their agents inside the military are in constant struggles to
gain advantage over each other and non-American industries.

Add to that the certifiably "weird" experiences which do reside at the source
of at least SOME purported "UFO sightings," and the climate is established
for "B.S."

In the case of Blum, who previously wrote about "high crimes" and Mafiosi
(being careful to omit alleged linkages to political and intelligence
operations that would no doubt bring embarrassment to Blum's "patrons"), he's
just doing a contract job for somebody who got him to sell out his
credibility and "New York Times" label at a 

[CTRL] Networks obsessing over release of documents

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.mediaresearch.org

MRC Alert: More on Freeh/Reno Ignored; Shirtless Gumbel  Drag Queens

Media Research Center CyberAlert
Wednesday June 7, 2000 (Vol. Five; No. 98)

More on Freeh/Reno Ignored; No Interest in Nashville; Shirtless
Gumbel  Drag Queens

1) Dan Burton released long-suppressed Justice documents and the
key officials in the controversy, over whether Reno was pressured
to drop fundraising, appeared before Burton's committee. NBC gave
it 35 seconds, FNC a full story. Zilch on ABC, CBS and CNN.

2) George W. Bush was clueless about the identity of DNC Chairman
Joe Andrew, FNC's Carl Cameron pointed out. Bush: "I don't know
who Joe Andrew is." Cameron added: "With Democrats questioning
Bush's overall smarts, Andrew could not resist a jab."

3) NBC actually slipped in a 17-second mention of the Gore rental
property situation, sans any video. GMA spent over a half hour
with Gore but did not mention his rental house. FNC's Brit Hume
revealed that the Nashville Tennessean has run only a wire story
on the situation and has no plans for further coverage.

4) National Enquirer headline: "Matt Lauer and Bryant Gumbel's
Wild Night with Drag Queens." But it's not made up. They
published photos of a bare-chested Gumbel getting a lap dance
from a he/she.


 Watch the appearance by the MRC's Tim Graham Monday night
on FNC's The Edge with Paula Zahn when he discussed Elian
coverage. The six minute segment, during which he appeared with a
woman from Salon.com, has now been posted in RealPlayer format by
MRC Webmaster Andy Szul. It's in two places. First, at the bottom
of the executive summary for the MRC's special report on Elian:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/specialreports/news/sr2523.html
And second, on the MRC's Media Bias Videos page:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/biasvideo.html 


 1) House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton on
Tuesday released documents the Justice Department had long
suppressed about conflicts in Al Gore's statements and three FBI
and Justice Department officials who participated in a 1996
meeting, in which two of the three maintain Justice's Lee Radek
conceded Janet Reno was under pressure not to pursue fundraising,
appeared before Burton's committee.

The ABC and CBS evening shows ignored it all Tuesday night,
June 6. ABC led with productivity growth and a new diabetes
treatment topped the CBS Evening News. CNN's Inside Politics
delivered a brief item about the document release but skipped the
hearing. The World Today ignored both developments.

NBC Nightly News gave the document release 35 seconds, but
only after devoting over two-and-a-half minutes to Robert Hager
reciting a Washington Post story about how a United Airlines
flight, from Washington Dulles to San Jose, diverted to Denver
for an early landing when the airline realized they'd put a dog
in the unheated baggage department with limited air. The move
saved the dog. FNC's Special Report with Brit Hume ran a full
story on the hearing.

Anchoring from the National D-Day Museum New Orleans, Tom
Brokaw felt compelled to taint the source of the latest
disclosure:
"In Washington tonight the release of a secret memo written
by FBI Director Louie Freeh back in 1997 that could have
political ramifications now. In it, Freeh said there was
compelling evidence that cast doubt on Vice President Al Gore's
accounts of his fundraising activities in the 1996 campaign. It's
long been known that Freeh wanted an independent counsel to
investigation the Clinton-Gore fundraising operation, but
Attorney General Janet Reno said no. The Freeh memo was released
by one of the Clinton administration's fiercest critics,
Republican Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana."

On FNC's Special Report, anchor Brit Hume reminded viewers:
"It has been known for some time that the FBI strongly urged
the appointment of an independent counsel to investigate the
Clinton-Gore campaign finance scandal from the 1996 election, but
further details on that tumbled into public view for the first
time this day when internal documents long known about but never
released became public. As Fox News correspondent Wendell Goler
reports, it was a contentious hearing."

Goler, as transcribed by MRC analyst Brad Wilmouth,
explained: "House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton
released a number of documents he said the Justice Department had
tried to keep secret by warning Burton he himself was the target
of an investigation."
Dan Burton: "Well this about the most transparent attempt to
intimidate a member of Congress that I've ever seen, and it ain't
gonna fly."
Goler picked up: "A 1997 memo from FBI Director Louis Freeh
accuses the Justice Department of ignoring reliable evidence that
conflicted with Vice President Gore's accounts of his fundraising
activities in the 1996 election. Three of the four principals in
a December 1996 meeting testified together for the first time.
The FBI's 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing

2000-06-07 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

"Poly Technologies, Inc." an arms company owned directly by the Chinese
army? What did I tell you about that Multi-Poley World?
FWP.

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[CTRL] DOCS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED WITH CUBA

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 7, 2000
Contact: Richard Tomkins
(202) 646-5172

DOCUMENTS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION ‘COLLABORATED'
WITH CUBA ON ELIAN GONZALEZ

Documents Also Show INS' Doris Meissner Orchestrated Grandmothers
Visit and Knew Eleventh Circuit Would Not Revoke Miami Relatives'
Custody of Elian

INS Documents Were Turned Over to Judicial Watch Under Court
Order

(Washington, DC) Some Clinton-Gore Administration documents
uncovered by Judicial Watch, Inc. in its lawsuits show that the
Clinton-Gore Administration "collaborated" with Cuba on the Elian
Gonzalez matter.  Other documents show that Immigration and
Naturalization Service (INS)  Commissioner Doris Meissner planned
the January, 2000 visit of the Elian's grandmothers in
consultation with Cuba and that INS knew that they could not
seize Elian without a court order. Meissner also sought to hide
the INS' role in orchestrating the Cuban grandmothers' visit.
Copies of these documents are available at Judicial Watch's
Internet site at www.judicialwatch.org.

The documents were turned over to Judicial Watch recently by the
Clinton-Gore Justice Department as part of its Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Justice Department and
INS to obtain underlying information on the Elian Gonzalez saga.
A federal court judge appointed by President Clinton, James
Robertson, ordered that the Justice Department begin turning over
the documents to Judicial Watch on April 26, 2000.

Thus far, the Clinton-Gore Administration has turned over
approximately 3,000 documents, with thousands more expected. The
Administration continues to withhold hundreds more, redacting
pages in their entirety.  Many of the documents, which have been
reviewed by Judicial Watch, bear directly on the current court
battles over Elian's asylum petitions and may have changed the
early outcome of the case if they had been made public sooner.

"These ‘smoking gun' documents help prove what we've suspected –
that the Clinton-Gore Administration was doing the bidding of
Fidel Castro when they raided the Gonzalez home using 151 armed
federal agents,"  stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

Judicial Watch is a public interest law firm that investigates
and prosecutes government corruption.



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[CTRL] Clinton's Ritalin Racketeers and Their Chemical Lobotomies

2000-06-07 Thread Bard

The Ritalin Racketeers and Their Chemical Lobotomies – Part I
Michael Savage
March 29, 2000
Dr. Michael Savage Interviews Dr. Peter R. Breggin
[Dr. Savage has a Ph.D. in Epidemiology and Human Nutrition from U.C.,
Berkeley.]

NEWSMAX.COM--Savage: If you’ve heard Hillary Clinton’s recent remarks on
Ritalin and other drug use on children, you’ll find the usual nauseating
demagoguery. She appears to be urging Ritalin caution; but, if you listen
carefully, she’s calling it a miracle drug: "A Godsend for emotional and
behavioral problems, for both children and their parents." She insists her
efforts are not an attack on the medical treatment of children’s emotional
well-being because the drugs are very, very "useful."

As with everything else the Clintons do, you’ve got to read between the
lines. So right now we’re going to read between the lines with an expert who
has a magnifying glass on the subject of Ritalin use. He wrote an earlier
book called Talking Back to Ritalin; What Doctors Aren’t Telling You about
Stimulants for Children. He’s been on this program before. His name is Dr.
Peter R. Breggin. He has a new book out, and it’s called Reclaiming Our
Children. You can get it at the bookstore or at www.Breggin.com.

Dr. Breggin, welcome to the Savage Nation.

Breggin: What a pleasure to hear your backtalk to Hillary. You know, there
is such hypocrisy with her. I didn’t start out as a Clinton basher; I
started out hopeful years ago. What she’s doing here is merely damage
control because her drugs have come under criticism.

Savage: What do you mean by "her drugs"?

Breggin: In June of last year, following the school shootings, Hillary and
Tipper Gore, as well as their husbands, got together for the first White
House conference on mental health. Because of her interest in mental health
and her own problem with anti-depressants, Tipper had been made the expert,
the psychiatric consultant to the president, duly designated. She then
created this conference. At the conference Hillary showcased a psychiatrist
named Kopowits of New York University...

Savage: Oh, he’s a son-of-a-gun! He’s a drug peddler, in my opinion. He had
the nerve to say from his early studies on Ritalin that he found it very
useful on children down to the age of two. He goes a step further and says
we should even use more of it.

Breggin: Yes, he does. You’re on top of this subject, Michael.

Savage: There’s nothing worse than poisoning our children’s minds.

Breggin: You know, the man Hillary introduced at the meeting goes so far as
to say that no amount of trauma to children -- or poor parenting or anything
in their lives -- causes them mental disorders. He says it’s all biological
and genetic and should be treated by drugs.

This is a guy who actually wrote in one of his books that sex abuse doesn’t
cause mental disorder unless the child has a biological problem to start
with in the brain.

Savage: So what is he? Some kind of a front for the drug companies?

Breggin: He’s the head of child and adolescent psychology at N.Y.U.

Savage: Let’s be clear on this guy. Is he a NaMBLA mentality, a member of
the North American Man Boy Love Association?

Breggin: No, I don’t think so. But it does come close to enabling child
abuse when he says that. Now the whole conference was this way. Hillary even
said that, whether or not teenagers want treatment, they have to get it. So
it’s involuntary treatment.

Savage: Dr. Breggin, please, let’s pause for a moment. I listened to
Hillary, and I heard the double talk. She’s so good at it, and I’m not
making this up, that the Communist Chinese have sent their cadres to study
her speeches. They say she’s the finest propagandist they’ve ever heard.

She claims she’s urging caution because of the outcry against the doping up
of our kids. But if you listen to the text of her statements, she’s really
saying they’re miracle drugs.

Breggin: Well, she’s also doing something that is, to me, an abomination.
She’s giving money to N.I.M.H. [National Institute for Mental Health]
ultimately to conduct more experiments on two- to four-year-olds. What they’
re going to do is conduct a lot of clinical studies which actually drug two-
to four-year-olds.

Savage: You know, I’m so frightened of these two people, Bill and Hillary,
that I’m making an all-out effort to make the truth known about these
horrific practices.

In the last conversation we had about your earlier book, Talking Back to
Ritalin, we showed that A.D.D. (1.) may not be a real diagnosis in many
cases, (2.) takes away the spontaneity in a child, and (3.) if a boy shows
symptoms of the "disease" called masculinity, he’s immediately declared ill
and put on a drug. This is very terrifying, isn’t it?

Breggin: I think it’s absolutely horrifying. Since I was on your show the
last time, I was asked by the National Institute of Health to be their
scientific discussant on the effects of these drug at a big conference they
held. Beforehand, I reviewed all of the 

[CTRL] Thought control

2000-06-07 Thread John Taylor

Columnist Dan Walters' (www.sacbee.com) article in the San Mateo County
Times
6/5/00,  alerts us to  California Assemblyman Darrell Steinberg's  method
of
asking "private" questions of school children by requiring that the
American
Academy of Pediatrics recommendations be incorporated into existing health
screening programs operated by the county government. It passed.

Example of questions:
1. Whether the childs family had a history of mental illness, domestic
violence or drug use.
4. Whether the family or neighbors own guns.
5. Whether ...involved with gangs.
7. Whether the child had signs of poor self esteem.
etc.

It passed.

  The Cal. Assembly also included,  in a different bill,  that the
Museum of Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center in LA) should be consulted in
developing hate crime prevention in schools, etc.  They are putting into
Law
that their policies etc. are reasonable and to be part of our government.



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[CTRL] The effect of Aids in Africa-scientific american

2000-06-07 Thread John Taylor

Scientific American


CARE FOR A DYING CONTINENT


In Zimbabwe--where AIDS is prematurely killing a generation of
adults--counselors
and researchers struggle against social customs, viral resourcefulness and
despair.




By Carol Ezzell, staff writer
Photographs: Karin Retief/Trace Images/The Image Works

"If the younger generation does not change, we are going to perish."
 Millicent Tigere perches expectantly on the edge of the sofa, her hands
folded in the lap of her simple black skirt. At the age of 20, she has
already been married for two years and has a one-year-old baby girl, now
strapped to her back with a white terrycloth towel. One of her relatives
died a year ago, and she suspects the cause was AIDS. She has come to the
clinic today to find out if she herself has a future--or if her child is
destined to become an orphan like the estimated 10 million others on the
continent of Africa.

Millicent lives in a town on the outskirts of Harare, the capital city of
the southern African nation of Zimbabwe. Her husband, who is 26, has a job
as a bank teller--a feat, considering the country's unemployment rate of
roughly 50 percent. Millicent speaks a little English, which is Zimbabwe's
official language, but she prefers to conduct her AIDS counseling session
primarily in Shona, her tribal tongue.

Chiratidzo Muyaka, Millicent's counselor, is a motherly figure in her 40s
with glasses and big brown eyes. Her past experience as a schoolteacher
shows as she guides Millicent through the "pretest" questionnaire that will
prepare her for her blood test for the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV),
the cause of AIDS.

Does she know how the AIDS virus is spread? Millicent confidently and
correctly identifies unprotected sex, sharing hypodermic needles and
childbirth as the major means through which HIV is transmitted.




THE GOMBEDZAS
 Has she had sex with anyone other than her husband? She shakes her head no.
Has her husband had sex with other women? "I don't think so," she answers,
laughing nervously behind her hand.

Has she thought about what might happen if she tests positive? Her smile
fades. She pauses to reach back and pull up one of her sleeping baby's
flower-patterned socks before answering. "I get worried if I am positive,
because I would be divorced [by my husband], and I worry about
breast-feeding." Nevertheless, she declares, she plans to share the results
of her test with her husband.

Although she says she and her husband have never used condoms because she
takes birth-control pills, Millicent agrees to discuss condom use with him
before she returns in two weeks to receive the results of her HIV test. She
takes a dozen free condoms because, she says, she and her spouse have sex
nearly every night. Then she leaves the counseling room for the clinic's
examining room to have her blood sample drawn.

The chances that Millicent is not already infected with HIV are not good.
Zimbabwe's National AIDS Coordination Program (NACP) estimates that between
20 and 25 percent of the population carries the virus. The likelihood that
one in every four people I meet is infected with HIV haunts me as I walk the
streets of Harare. The face of HIV is everywhere: on the taxi driver who
drove me to my first appointment this morning, on my waiter last night, on
the woman selling roasted corn on the cob at the side of the road, on the
businessman emerging from his Mercedes.

I have come to Zimbabwe because it represents one of the best of the worst.
As in other sub-Saharan African nations, the AIDS problem here is so severe
that it eclipses the often-used term "crisis." AIDS is destined to alter
history in Africa--and, in fact, the world--to a degree not seen in
humanity's past since the Black Death. But unlike some other African
countries, Zimbabwe is not riven by tribal violence. If any behavioral
intervention against AIDS will work in Africa, one of its best chances will
be here.

But that one-in-four estimate of Zimbabweans infected with HIV is likely to
be optimistic, based on scanty data and wishful thinking. The statistic
derives from blood samples collected periodically from pregnant women who
show up at a dozen maternity clinics around the country--a system that even
Evaristo Marowa, director of the NACP, acknowledges is inaccurate.

Workers at the clinic to which Millicent has come see HIV infection rates
that are much higher. Nearly 40 percent of the women presenting themselves
for HIV counseling and testing have turned up positive, according to
epidemiologist Nancy S. Padian of the University of California at San
Francisco. Padian is collaborating with Z. Michael Chirenje, Tsungai Chipato
and Michael T. Mbizvo of the University of Zimbabwe's department of
obstetrics and gynecology on studies to find ways to prevent the spread of
HIV, which in Africa is transmitted largely through heterosexual sex and
from mother to newborn. Like many other AIDS researchers, they are focusing
on women instead of men in part 

Re: [CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread William Shannon


Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their
freedom, their confidence, and their future.



What a load of hooey!

Bill.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce

2000-06-07 Thread Carl Amedio

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 Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce

 GENEVA, June 7 (Reuters) - The AIDS virus is likely to devastate the labour
market of sub-Saharan Africa with projected workforce declines of up to a
fifth or more in the worst-hit countries by 2020, the International Labour
Organisation (ILO) said in a study on Wednesday.

 The study by the Geneva-based U.N. labour agency said that by 2020, the size
of the workforces in Botswana and Zimbabwe would be 21 percent lower than
they would have been without the AIDS crisis, even after the growth in
populations were taken into account

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GENEVA, June 7 (Reuters) - The AIDS virus is likely to devastate the labour market of 
sub-Saharan Africa with projected workforce declines of up to a fifth or more in the 
worst-hit countries by 2020, the International Labour Organisation (ILO) said in a 
study on Wednesday.

The study by the Geneva-based U.N. labour agency said that by 2020, the size of the 
workforces in Botswana and Zimbabwe would be 21 percent lower than they would have 
been without the AIDS crisis, even after the growth in populations were taken into 
account

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[CTRL] FDA Stops Cancer Kid's Alt/Treatment

2000-06-07 Thread Gavin Phillips

4-Year-Old Fights for More Than His Life

"The FDA is Killing Our Children," says mother.

A HREF="http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp"FDA, Friend or
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http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp

By Joie Munda and Ken Hulme
May 4, 2000

-- EXCLUSIVE -- A young boy fights for his life from an aggressive form of
brain cancer. Has the FDA become his worst enemy?

People continue to protest over Elian Gonzales. Why is it that no one is
fighting over Thomas Navarro?

Thomas is the 4-year-old son of Arizona parents Jim and Donna Navarro. He has
medulloblastoma, an aggressive form of brain cancer. Recently doctors
operated on the young boy to remove a golf ball size tumor. Without
additional treatment, Thomas will die.

What would you do if you were Thomas’ parents? Worse still, what you do if
your child were suddenly struck with this fatal form of brain cancer?

As his young life hangs in the balance, vital questions have emerged for
Thomas’ parents, and by implication for the nation:

1. Which cancer treatments are best:

The prescribed Food and Drug Administration (FDA) treatment of radiation and
chemotherapy, with their dramatic and debilitating side effects?
Or an experimental treatments (approved in FDA trials) with an high success
rates and no known side effects?
2. Who has the right to decide which treatment is best for this 4 year old—or
any child with medical options: the parents and their doctor, or the
government?

3. Is the FDA always right in its policies and practices?

The "Recommended Treatment"

When Thomas was diagnosed with brain cancer in September of 1999, not
surprisingly, his parents were devastated. But within days, surgeons had
successfully removed the cancerous growth. As a follow-up, they recommended
an aggressive cocktail of radiation and chemotherapy, a course typical for
this type of cancer.

Medulloblastoma takes just 45 weeks to grow a second tumor. If the first one
has been removed, the second one is fatal unless the patient undergoes this
type of "salvage therapy," as one study calls radiation treatment in children
Thomas’ age.

Initially, Jim was willing to trust doctors with the next step in his child’s
care. But, he soon became skeptical when no one would talk to him about what
Thomas’ condition would be like after chemotherapy and radiation. And doctors
were not willing to show the Navarros any survival reports of
medulloblastoma.

That’s when the Navarros learned some shocking news!

"Every patient, which doctors have treated with radiation and chemo at his
son’s age, was 'either crippled or dead,' " says Donna Navarro.

When Jim wanted to know the ingredients of the chemotherapy, the doctor said,
"You don’t need to know." That's when, "Our first red flag went up," says
Jim.

Later, Jim was assured by the radiologist that the side effects would be
manageable. "He had listed skin redness, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, and loose
stools and had me sign it," says Jim. The doctor leaves the room. About 10
minutes later he comes back and says, "Oh, Dad, by the way, I forgot. He’ll
also have fluid on the middle ear, hearing loss, memory loss,
hyperthyroidism, low level hormones, spinal growth deficit,
hyper-pituitarianism, secondary tumors, cerebral necrosis, and he went on
down the list." Thomas’ doctors were unavailable for comment.

The Journal of Clinical Oncology confirms the Navarros' fears. In a December
1999 study by St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, "all patients lost
cognitive function during and after [radiation] therapy."

In fact, the summary went on to state that "all patients treated in this
fashion…with salvage radiation therapy…have significant neuropsychologic
deficits [including a significant loss in IQ]. Our experience demonstrates
that medulloblastoma in infancy is a curable disease, albeit at significant
cost."

Suddenly, Jim and Donna realized their son could become an invalid, requiring
a lifetime of care.

Searching for an Answer

As they began to turn a deaf ear to the radiologists, Jim and Donna worked
feverishly to find a solution.

Using the Internet, they spent thousands of hours becoming experts on their
son’s condition. They also made friends through online chat rooms with other
families in similar straits. There they also learned of a clinic in Houston,
Texas, that had been approved by the FDA to do clinical studies for certain
types of cancer.

Would this clinic provide the answer?

Then, the unthinkable happened. Because the Navarros were unwilling to submit
their son to traditional FDA approved treatments, doctors finally turned the
family over to child protective services.

The Navarros decided to flee the state. They’ve been living in a hotel in
Houston for the past six months.

There they located Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski, a medical doctor and cancer
researcher. The Navarros found Burzynski to be candid about his successes –
introducing them to a thriving young man in college, 

[CTRL] NIDS: Extraterrestrials Science

2000-06-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

 We received this note from National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS):

 "The recent Observer Newspaper article
 entitled "British UFO Secrets Revealed" has a followup.
 NIDS has just published an essay by Dr. Colin Ridyard, the central
 figure in the newspaper article, in which he lays out in detail the
 history of British MoD actions on UFO radar data. It makes for
 fascinating reading. It can be found at: http://www.nidsci.org and it
 may be worth alerting your readers to this.
 Sincerely
 Colm A Kelleher PhD
 NIDS"

 ECONEWS:
 Reviewing the NIDS website, we found an extraordinary scientific
organization, with a forward-looking staff and some of the best scientific
contributors.  Counterbalancing several ET-skepticals on the Board of
Directors are group of collaborating extraterrestrially-curious scientists.
We would hope the ET skepticals can jettison their life-long professional
agnoticism in favour of committed scientific discovery.

 http://www.nidsci.org

 One of our favorites sections are the research papers on extraterrestrial
intelligence.  You can find it at:

 http://www.nidsci.org/articles/dialog.html

 We found Alan Tough, PhD's conclusion on target:

 "4. Advanced civilizations are probably letting us develop freely, without
interference, in order to maximize the amount of information they gain; if
they interfere and control us, they will learn less
 (Kuiper and Morris, 1977). Their greatest gain from us may be sociological
and anthropological knowledge about our culture and civilization."

 And the winner of NIDS essay competition, Dr. Gregory L.` Matloff,
 Professor of Physics and Astronomy, NYU:

 "The Reenchantment of the Solar System: A Search of Local ETs."

 ABSTRACT:
 It is argued using a conservative approach to interstellar travel that
intelligent extraterrestrials (ET’s) may be present in
  our solar system, living in world ships that have colonized cometary or
asteroidal objects during the last billion years.
  The originating star systems for these advanced beings could be
solar-type stars that fortuitously approach our Sun
  within a light year or so at intervals of about a million years or
nearby stars that have left the main sequence,
  prompting interstellar migration. If we are indeed within such a "Dyson
Sphere" of artificial worldlets, we could detect
  their presence through astronomical means since a space habitat will
emit more infrared radiation than a like-sized
  comet or asteroid. Interestingly, several Kuiper-Belt objects have
recently been found to have an unexpected and
  substantial red excess. It is argued that, in opposition to the
assumptions of current SETI searches, the very advanced
  occupants of this possible local Dyson Sphere may have as little
interest in beaming radio signals in our direction as
  we do in communicating with termites. A research program is proposed
whereby large and small college observatories
  would routinely monitor the spectral irradiances of Near Earth and
Kuiper Belt objects while a concurrent theoretical
  effort models the spectral characteristics of various proposed space
habitats. Much of the observational work, at least,
  could be dovetailed with projects designed to detect Near-Earth Objects
(NEO’s) that might impact Earth in the future.
  Possible strategies and protocols for direct contact, requiring humans
to be the active contactees are presented to be
  considered for use if such intelligent ET’s are discovered within our
solar system. "

 http://www.nidsci.org/essaycomp.html


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[CTRL] EXOPOLITICS Capetown, South Africa's 567mwCapeTalk, Friday June 9.

2000-06-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

 Alfred Webre, author of the new eBook EXOPOLITICS, will speak
 on Capetown, South Africa's 567mwCapeTalk, Friday June 9.

 EXOPOLITICS discloses a 1977 USA-Carter White House-
 National Science Foundation Study into extraterrestrial
 communication that was suppressed.  Author Alfred Webre was its
 Principal Investigator.  Exopolitics is the study of political and
 governmental forms in the Universe.  Exopolitics is to terrestrial
 politics and government as exobiology is to biology.Exopolitics is a
 key component of Universe ecology. The eBook EXOPOLITICS is
 available at UniverseBooks.com.

 A complementary copy of Episode One of EXOPOLITICS, along
 with Nicky Molloy's review, can be found at:

 http://www.universebooks.com/nicolareview.html

 The winner of NIDS 2000 essay competition, Dr. Gregory L.` Matloff,
Professor of Physics and Astronomy, NYU, writes:

 "The Reenchantment of the Solar System: A Search of Local ETs."

 ABSTRACT:
 It is argued using a conservative approach to interstellar travel that
intelligent extraterrestrials (ET’s) may be present in
  our solar system, living in world ships that have colonized cometary or
asteroidal objects during the last billion years.
  The originating star systems for these advanced beings could be
solar-type stars that fortuitously approach our Sun
  within a light year or so at intervals of about a million years or
nearby stars that have left the main sequence,
  prompting interstellar migration. If we are indeed within such a "Dyson
Sphere" of artificial worldlets, we could detect
  their presence through astronomical means since a space habitat will
emit more infrared radiation than a like-sized
  comet or asteroid. Interestingly, several Kuiper-Belt objects have
recently been found to have an unexpected and
  substantial red excess. It is argued that, in opposition to the
assumptions of current SETI searches, the very advanced
  occupants of this possible local Dyson Sphere may have as little
interest in beaming radio signals in our direction as
  we do in communicating with termites. A research program is proposed
whereby large and small college observatories
  would routinely monitor the spectral irradiances of Near Earth and
Kuiper Belt objects while a concurrent theoretical
  effort models the spectral characteristics of various proposed space
habitats. Much of the observational work, at least,
  could be dovetailed with projects designed to detect Near-Earth Objects
(NEO’s) that might impact Earth in the future.
  Possible strategies and protocols for direct contact, requiring humans
to be the active contactees are presented to be
  considered for use if such intelligent ET’s are discovered within our
solar system. "

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Re: [CTRL] UFOs and the Military

2000-06-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

In a message dated 00-06-07 08:24:51 EDT, you write:

 Let us assume for a moment that there really ARE aliens here.  What kind
of evidence is there that they have the power to destroy our Earth to a
cinder, that we are shooting at them with back engineered weaponry, and that
they are good or benevolent in any way?  Please enlighten us all with this
profundity.
  

The person whose thoughts I was posting was considerate enough to provide us
his name and address.  Perhaps you wish to contact him with what he meant.
It is:  James Gilliland
 Self-Mastery Earth Institute
 PO Box 281, Hood River, Oregon 97031
 (509) 395-2092 http://www.cazekiel.org

If you would like further information, see my post on NIDS today.

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[CTRL] INDICTMENT BY THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL

2000-06-07 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU


INDICTMENT BY THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL

(submitted to the international tribunal against NATO war crimes in New York
on the fortcoming weekend)

I  Preamble

1) NATO, the United States of America, the Federal Republic of Germany, the
United Kingdom, Turkey, Spain, the Netherlands, Croatia, Hungary, Italy,
France and others - after failing to force the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia at the so-called "peace negotiations" in Paris and Rambouillet to
accept an extortionate ultimatum which in fact aimed at the occupation of
the entire territory of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and had been
declared a condition sine qua non - without a declaration of war and without
a resolution by the United Nations Security Council launched warlike rocket
and bombing attacks against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, deliberately
murdering Serbs, Kosovo-Albanians, Roma, Muslims, Orthodox-Christians,
Catholics and foreign nationals.

By doing this they destroyed and damaged economic, social, cultural,
medical, diplomatic and religious resources.

In the course of their criminal war of aggression, NATO and the
above-mentioned states cut off the population of Yugoslavia from food,
water, electric energy, food production, medicines and medical services. By
means of rocket and aerial bombing attacks they systematically destroyed and
damaged waterworks and agricultural irrigation installations, factories,
fertilisers and vegetation, pharmaceutical production works, hospitals and
health service installations as well as other objects needed for human
survival. The aggressors attack chemical factories, oil refineries, petrol
and natural gas stores, fertiliser plants, installations and localities with
the aim of releasing, on a wide scale, radioactive and other dangerous
substances into the atmosphere, the soil, the ground-water and the
foodchain, poison the environment and harm the population. They employed
banned arms, attacked the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia with rockets, bombs
and missiles which contained Depleted Uranium (DU) and released radioactive
substances into the atmosphere the soil, the ground-water, the foodchain as
well as into solid objects, thus exposing the Yugoslav population to health
hazards for generations to come.

2) With these actions NATO and the above-mentioned states violated
International Law, especially art. 2 chapter 7 of the UN-Charter; the
Declaration on Non-intervention; the Resolution on the Definition of
Aggression, 1997 UNGA 3314; articles 52 and 53 of the Convention on the Law
of Treaties of 23 May, 1969; the Treaty on the Banning of War, the
Briand-Kelog-Pact of Paris, 1928, articles 1 and 2; the Hague Conventions,
especially the Fourth Hague Convention of 18 October, 1907; the Geneva
Convention on the Protection of Civilians in Times of War, 1949; the
Statutes of the Nuremberg Tribunal, principles VI a, b and c; the Geneva
Additional Protocol 1977, articles 48 and 51; the Geneva Protocol on the Use
of Asphyxiating, Poisonous and Similar Gases as well as of Bacteriological
Substances in Wars, of 1925; the European Convention on the Peaceful
Settlement of conflicts, of 29 April, 1957 and also violated national penal
codes concerning murder, duresse, dangerous threat, wilful destruction,
arson, damage to the environment, formation of gangs for the purpose of
carrying out criminal plots and genocide.



II  THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL BRINGS A POLITICAL INDICTMENT AGAINST:


The Federal Government of the Republic of Austria
Chancellor Mag. Victor Klima
Vice Chancellor and Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Wolfgang Schќssel
Minister of Defence Dr. Werner Fasslabend
Former EU-Special Representative Dr. Wolfgang Petritsch, present High
Representative for Bosnia
Former Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Alois Mock


a) in particular against former minister of foreign affairs Dr. Alois Mock
on the basis of the well-founded suspicion of openly taking position
(politically, economically and logistically) and intervening in a civil
war - thereby violating neutrality - by abetting the destruction of the
sovereign Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, through furthering - in
contravention of international law - and politically supporting the
secession by force of member republics of the SFR of Yugoslavia by way of
the official recognition - in violation of international law and the status
of neutrality - of member republics of the SFR of Yugoslavia which had
seceded with the use of force.

(Violation of the neutrality law; of the UN-Charter; of the principle
regarding the obligation of non-intervention in matters which, according to
the Charter, pertain to the national competence of a state; Declaration of
the United Nations)

b) in particular against the former EU-Special Representative Dr. Wolfgang
Petritsch on the basis of his collaboration in the "peace accords"
elaborated in the course of the so-called 

[CTRL] Resources on Drug Experimentation and Related Mind Control by the U.S. Government

2000-06-07 Thread Mr.Rodriguez

http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/lsd.html

"the CIA:" http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/cia.html

---http://www.calweb.com/~welsh
("Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse," Cheryl Welsh)

http://www.raven1.net (Eleanor White, Physical Engineer; no e-mail at this
time; just snail mail)

[specifics:]
http://www.raven1.net/silsoun2.htm ("Silent Sound")
http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm ("Aerial Mind Control")
http://home.nas.net/~raven1/uncom/htm ("Unclassified Mind Control Equipment")

http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/local/h-pages/pro-freedom/ ("Project Freedom,"
U.K.)

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/2289/webpage.htm (Mojmir
Babecek's "International Movement to Ban Radiofrequency Weapons")

http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/mck-clsc.htm (Julianne
McKinney-former intelligence officer's paper on microwave harassment and mind
control)

http://www.datafilter.com/mc (Mr. Allen Barker)

http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/meth/gut.htm

http://www.bilderberg.org/ ("The Bilderberg Group")- an "idea" of how the
international elites "work."

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/ (Rodney Stich, former investigator)

http://www.executiveorders.org

http://www.aches-mc.org (ACHES- Patty Rehn)

http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/nuremb1.htm ("The Nuremberg Code")


Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

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[CTRL] What the Meaning of ISS Is

2000-06-07 Thread Alamaine

From www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Science  Technology
Shuttle crew repairs International Space Station, but ISS's troubles on earth
continue
By Tom Bishop
7 June 2000
Back to screen version

After a 10-day mission, Space Shuttle Atlantis returned to the Kennedy Space
Center in the early morning hours of May 29. Atlantis's crew of six Americans
and one Russian successfully completed all of the mission objectives to repair
the partially-built International Space Station (ISS) and boost its orbit.

The pleasure of another scientific achievement in space must be tempered,
however, with the understanding that the repairs had to be made to the ISS even
though it has yet to be used. Because of lengthy delays in its construction,
the Atlantis astronauts had to replace four of the ISS's 82 kilogram (180
pound), $252,000 nickel-cadmium batteries on the Russian-built power and
communications module Zarya. Zarya, launched in November 1998, is a propulsion
module that is keeping the early stages of the ISS aloft. The astronauts
replaced smoke detectors and fire extinguishers that had exceeded their
warranty, repaired the faulty ventilation system, and delivered 1,350 kilograms
(3,000 pounds) of supplies. They also mounted construction cranes on the
outside of the space station.

In addition, Atlantis boosted the space station's orbit. Due to increased
atmospheric drag from high solar activity, the ISS had been sinking slowly.
Officials were concerned that Zarya would run out of fuel before the docking of
the much delayed Zvezda service module, now scheduled for launch in July, which
is equipped to periodically boost the space station's orbit.

Currently, the ISS consists of the Zarya module and Unity, a US-built
connecting tunnel, launched in December, 1998. The Zvezda module will provide
the first living quarters for the ISS, as well as life support and refueling
capabilities. The Zvezda launch is two years behind schedule. It was delayed
first because of financial problems in Russia and then because of a crash of a
rocket in October 1999. About 86 percent of ISS's components are finished and
waiting to be launched and assembled in orbit. The first crew is scheduled to
take up residence in ISS around October 30 if the Zvezda launch is successful.

The development of the ISS was first approved by the US Congress in September
1988. It was to be the next generation of space station following Mir, which
had been put in orbit by the Soviet Union in 1986. ISS quickly became an
international venture as NASA joined forces with the European Space Agency,
Canada and Japan. A total of 16 nations are now participating. However, it
quickly became mired in bureaucracy and cost overruns that have slowed its
construction and made its completion date uncertain. Estimated cost is now $60
billion.

When it is completed, present plans call for a space station which weighs 470
tons, four times the weight of Mir. It will measure 110 meters (361 feet) end
to end, the length of a football field, and be seven stories high. It will be
able to house a crew of six or seven in 1,300 cubic meters (46,000 cubic feet)
of space. The entire space station will be the size of a city block. It will
have six trailer-sized labs, two habitation modules and two logistics modules.

Russia's experience—as the only country to run a space station over a long
period of time—is vital to the success of the ISS. Since it began assembly in
space in February1986, Mir has given Russia predominance in the study of long-
term human space flight and given Russian scientists a head start in designing
the Zvezda crew quarters. In 1993 NASA revamped the International Space Station
program and, for economic and political reasons, Russia became a key partner.
Space hardware from a planned Mir 2 program became a major component in ISS
construction. All astronauts/cosmonauts for ISS will be trained at Star City,
which is 50 kilometers (30 miles) outside of Moscow.

The history of Mir

Mir had been designed to be used for five years. An aging infrastructure
combined with the financial problems in Russia caused it to run into increasing
difficulty. In 1997 Mir had a near fatal fire and several months later an empty
cargo ship collided with the station's Spektr science module, nearly killing
its crew of three. Mir's captain, Vassili Tsibliev, who Russian President
Yeltsin tried to blame for the crash, commented: "All of this is linked to the
economic situation, the corruption and to our miserable lives aboard the
station and what we have requested ... doesn't exist. This is because the
factories no longer operate."

Mir was abandoned by the Russian Aviation and Space Agency, Rosaviacosmos, in
August of 1999 because, at an operating cost of $250 million a year, they could
no longer afford to keep it occupied. NASA officials abandoned all hope of
rescuing Mir and decided to focus exclusively on ISS, which is scheduled to be
completed in 2005 and have a 10-year life span.


[CTRL] Fleshing Out Kosovo

2000-06-07 Thread Alamaine

Now ... this may be old news but the new news is it's emanating from
Germany, a little more liberal and socially advanced with regard to the subject
matter.  Perhaps a union or two is on the horizon.  AER 


From http://www.fr-aktuell.de/english/401/t401004.htm

}}Begin
Kosovo-Prostitutes

WHEN THE WAITRESSING JOB IS A TRAP
Sexual slave trade a problem in Kosovo
By Stephan Israel

Pristina - The dubious clubs that spring up overnight with names like Miami
Beach, Manhattan or International Club often do not remain in business very
long. A raid by Italian carabinieri first brought the miserable situation to
light in January, when the UN peacekeepers burst into one club to find a dozen
desperate women staring back at them.

"The women were treated like slaves," said one of the investigators on the
case. Since then about 60 women have been freed from similiar conditions.
Trafficking in sexual slaves and forced prostitution have become serious
problems in Kosovo.

The women come from Romania, Moldova, Ukraine and Bulgaria: the poorest regions
of eastern Europe. A monthly salary of 50 to 100 dollars is normal in all of
those countries. Some of the women fell prey to seemingly innocuous newspaper
adverts promising lucrative jobs in the West as waitresses or dancers. Some of
them wound up part of a sex trade ring after being kidnapped. Still others knew
about the nightclub and the job as a prostitute that awaited them, but not
about the horrifying conditions.

None of the 60 women were still in possession of their identification documents
when they were discovered, according to investigators in Pristina. Passports
are usually collected by the "carers" while the women are still in their native
countries; sometimes, their "escorts" issue them false documents. It usually
takes a while before the trip gets underway, with long waiting periods par for
the course.

The sex traders command a well-organised network of contacts across the entire
region. Inconspicuous motels are the scenes of out-and-out auctions, where the
women are sold for the highest bid to pimps and bar owners.
On the way to Kosovo, the actual trafficking occurs in Struga on the Macedonian-
Albanian border and several villages around the capital, Skopje, that are well-
known for their role in illegal prostitution. Until now Macedonian officials
have shown little interest in co-operating with the UN, says one UN
investigator, who suspects that Macedonian police are involved in the trade in
women.

Kosovar club owners and pimps pay around 1,500 dollars for each woman. The
women are confined to the bars day and night and made to endure cramped and
unhygenic conditions. They are usually told that they have to "work off" the
cost of transporting them.

However, none of the women found in forced prostitution in Kosovo had ever seen
any money. Anyway, in most cases the women are auctioned off to another club in
some other region after a few weeks or months.

Contributing to the problem is the massive international presence brought by
the arrival of Nato peacekeeping forces, and the large amounts of money now in
circulation. At present more than 40,000 soldiers from all over the world are
stationed in Kosovo, plus another 7,000 UN administrators and aid workers from
public and private international relief organisations.

Many of the prospective customers perusing the bars and nightclubs are members
of the international mission in Kosovo, reports one aid worker with an
international organisation. "This business is determined by supply and demand,"
says the woman, who gets her information from talking to victims. It is, she
says, a cheap investment for the traffickers, who are attracted by the low risk
and the potential for making enormous profits.

But, she adds, for the women and girls - sometimes as young as 15 - the sex
trade is an extreme form of sexual and economic exploitation. Once they come
under the slave traders' control and end up in one of the clubs, the women have
no freedom whatsoever to decide their fate, according to the aid worker.

A campaign is now being planned for the coming weeks that is aimed above all at
the nightclubs' international "clientele." The campaign is supposed to make it
clear to these men that the women in the clubs are not "normal" prostitutes.
"You pay once, she pays her whole life long," one of the slogans goes.

The situation in Kosovo is not without precedent. Nightclubs and bars sprouted
up like mushrooms near the former frontline after the war in Bosnia. Kosovo is
simply the latest market in a network that is part of a booming business. Most
local women stay away from the clubs.

Kosovo, like neighbouring Albania, is both a recruiting ground and a transit
area for traffic in women. Experts estimate that around 30,000 Albanian women
are currently working as prostitutes, most of them in Italy. For eastern
European women, the road also stops in Serbia or Belgrade en route to final
destinations in Bosnia, Montenegro or 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

The problem is, nowadays we have a movement afoot where these beings -- no
better or worse than ourselves -- are now presented as being somehow
morally
and spiritually superior to ourselves solely because of their difference
from us...and therefore warrant us giving up our individuality and
sovereignty
to these beings, because 'they know better'...

I afraid that the powers that be are promoting a cargo cult mentality so
that one day they can fake an alien landing and use it to manipulate us
even further than they do already. If "ETs" land in front of the UN
building and  tell us they are here to save us from ourselves and we
should do what their anointed human representitives say, when they head
back up the ramp of their saucer be sure to check for a zipper up the back
of their rubber suits.

Even if they turn out to be real ETs, reflect back on the history of
colonialism and ask yourself if ever, even once, a colonial power actually
made things better for their victims. Hint: read up on the New World,
Africa, South Asia, Australia and the Pacific.

"Benelovent Space Brothers" !?! Gimme a break.  If history is any
indication whatsoever, they're either a total fraud perpetrated by our all
too human masters or they're colonialist predators here to murder, rape
and enslave us, herd our children onto reservations and steal all our
resources. IMHO

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[CTRL] Ducking Shoots, Providing Comfort

2000-06-07 Thread Alamaine

From
http://www.weeklystandard.com/magazine/mag_5_36_00/owens_feat_5_36_00.html

 Aha!!!  This article confirms what I saw in an interview in 1995 on CNN
with a retired Lt Gen who asserted that Schwartkopf's mission was to neutralise
the Republican Guard.  Because this nuetralisation was NOT done, the Kurds in
northern Iraq were massacreed and the no-fly zones were established (as they
also forgot to neutralise Hussein's helicopter fleet ... oops).  Following this
came Provide Comfort, an effort to provide assistance to the Kurds who are now
being attacked by the Turks periodically in both Iraq and Syria.  So, so much
for protecting sovereignty (Kuwait vs Yugoslavia), humanitarian
militarisiticisms (Kurds vs Serbs), and no more VietNams (9 years)(Iraq = 10
years in August).  AER 

}}Begin
June 5, 2000/Vol 5, Number 36
The Real Gulf War Blunder
The problem wasn't that Barry McCaffrey kept on fighting—it was that we stopped
fighting too soon.
By Mackubin Thomas Owens

Seymour Hersh's allegation in the May 22 New Yorker that then-Major General
Barry McCaffrey unleashed his 24th Infantry Division in an unnecessary attack
that mercilessly pummeled retreating Iraqi soldiers two days after the Gulf War
cease-fire in 1991 has created the usual furor. Even though the U.S. Army
investigated the charges against Gen. McCaffrey years ago, the New York Times
has called for an independent review, claiming that "the military services have
a poor record of holding their own members accountable for misconduct,
especially top officers."

On one level, the Hersh-McCaffrey contretemps is much ado about nothing. As the
Clintons and their spinners would say, it is old news. But if we can get past
the typical press treatment of the issue as a clash of stereotypes, the "'no-
holds-barred' investigative reporter vs. the ambitious 'hard-charging'
general," the story reveals some important truths about the nature of war and
the difficulties of waging it in a democratic republic.

The basic facts are these. On March 2, 1991, two days after the Gulf War cease-
fire, elements of the 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized) trapped an Iraqi
column that had blundered into it near Rumaila, about 50 miles south of Al
Qurnah on the Euphrates River. In an intense but one-sided fight, the division
destroyed 346 Iraqi armored vehicles including 30 T-72 tanks. McCaffrey's
critics claim that he provoked the fight and then used force far in excess of
what was necessary. McCaffrey and his defenders reply that it was the Iraqis
who provoked the clash and that the response of the 24th Infantry Division was
fully in accordance with existing cease-fire guidelines.

To understand McCaffrey's actions at Rumaila, it is necessary to grasp the fact
that the foremost military objective of the ground war was the destruction of
the three divisions of Saddam's Republican Guard. The plan for the Allied
ground attack called for the Marines and other Allied forces to fix the Iraqi
forces south of Kuwait City while the VII and XVIII Airborne Corps executed a
Kesselschlacht, a strategic envelopment from the west toward Basra. The purpose
of this maneuver was to trap the main Iraqi forces, especially the Republican
Guard, before they could escape across the Euphrates.

But the Marine attack was too successful. The offensive against Kuwait City
drove the Iraqis out of their defenses rather than fixing them in place. The
attack of the VII Corps, on the other hand, took too long to develop. Still,
bold action on the part of two divisions of the XVIII Airborne Corps,
McCaffrey's 24th Division and the 101st Air Assault Division, placed them in
position to prevent the escape of many Republican Guard units.

That is the background for the situation Gen. McCaffrey found himself in on
March 2. But the blame for the events of that day, if any blame is to be
assigned, belongs to McCaffrey's superiors.

On February 28, General Colin Powell, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, without any clear sense of the disposition of Iraqi and American forces
along the Euphrates, suddenly advised President Bush that it was appropriate to
announce a cease-fire. Why? There were two reasons, neither of them sound.
Powell's principal motivation for suddenly terminating the war was to dispel
the impression, created by news reports describing air attacks on retreating
Iraqis along the so-called highway of death, that Allied forces were "piling
on." The second reason, which is almost too embarrassing to mention, was that
Powell and other Bush advisers believed it would be nice to end the war after
100 hours. One hundred seemed a good round number for the history books.

Powell did not bother to inform either the president or the secretary of
defense that the central military mission—destruction of the Republican
Guard—had not yet been accomplished. Given that this was the primary military
objective of the ground offensive, this was a rather startling omission on
Powell's part. After all, the 

[CTRL] INFOTERRA: War's effect on the environment: a short summary

2000-06-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

 INFOTERRA-L carried this response to ENWL's Open Letter on
 Environmental War.

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  "Environmental warfare" aside, War has always been perhaps the single

  most destructive activity our species indulges itself in - destructive

  not only to the fabric of our own humanity, but also to the biosphere at

  large: when "the enemy" must be destroyed before he/she/it destroys you,

  you don't concern yourself with such trivial matters as the havoc your

  chemicals, bombs, underwater super-sonar systems, defoliants, depleted

  uranium and whatever else you can dig up, might wreak on local

  ecosystems and upon the biospere as a whole - you just do whatever it

  takes to kill, and let the "details" sort themselves out.  The direct

  and indirect effects of war upon the environment (none of them

  positive!!) include;




  1) direct destruction of biota via munitions, defoliants, fires, etc.

  2) residual effects - dangerous chemicals remaining from war (dioxins,

  depleteted uranium, heavy metals, chemical warfare agents) leftover

  mines (which kill wildlife and not just people - they are "equal

  opportunity" destroyers!), equipment, weapons dumps, ammunition

  fragments, etc.

  3) major alteration of the landscape of battlegrounds - many WW1

  battlefields are still ecological dissaster areas, compared to what they

  were previously!

  4) increased depletion of wildlife and forests, even in parks and other

  protected areas, by troops of various sorts and displaced citizens

  looking for food, shelter, firewoodmarauding armies and displaced

  populations are VERY destructive, doing whatever they see as nessessary

  for "survival".

  5) a breakdown of law and order, enabling criminals to pluder forests,

  poach whatever they like, such as elephants, bears, tigers, gorillas,

  rare birds, etc., with relative impunity.

  6) diversion of governmental resources which might have been used for

  environmental monitoring, protection, resarch and enforcement of

  environmental laws - when you are at war, protecting the habitat of

  spotted owls becomes a VERY low priority!!

  7) Massive environmental damage results from military research and the

  production of war materials: the military are concerned with weapons and

  killing - not environmental protection!!  A good example is the vast

  amount of radioactive material the former Soviet Union released into the

  local environment, as well as huge amounts of toxic chemicals poorly

  stored (an American problem also!!)

  8) distraction of attention from environmental concerns: the "general

  public" and the "media" have a limited amount of Discressional

  Attention, and also have short attention spans - in times of war and

  crisis, environmental matters tend to get put on the back burner!

  9) a general diminution or cheapening of the "value" of all life: if you

  do not value the lives of members of your own species,  then the lives

  of members of other species becomes a trivial matter.




  I submit that one of the pervasive and sytematic obstacles to

  environmental protection and restoration is war, in all its forms, and

  the activities and attitudes which accompany and result from it.

  Accordingly, the "environmental community" should be spending far more

  of its efforts in fighting attitudes that result in wars, and in

  promoting peace, as well as environmenatally responsible (and publically

  accountable!!) behavior of the military and its associated industrial

 activities.
  From the Great White North,

  Ross M.
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[CTRL] Convicted Killer Executed After 29 Years on Death Row From The Associ...

2000-06-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

I
 Convicted Killer Executed After 29 Years on Death Row
 By Ron Word
 Associated Press Writer

 STARKE, Fla. (AP) - A convicted killer who described himself
 as "the poster boy of the death penalty" was put to death by injection
 Wednesday for the 1976 murder of another inmate.
 After 29 years on death row, Bennie Demps was executed for
 the stabbing death of Alfred Sturgis, who was attacked in his cell by
 three inmates.

 Demps spoke for seven minutes, proclaiming his innocence
 before the execution.

 "This is not an execution, this is murder," Demps said. "I
 am an innocent man."

 During his statement, Demps also called on his lawyer,
 George Schaefer, to investigate why it took almost an hour to prepare
 him for the execution.

 Demps was strapped to a gurney beginning at 5:40 p.m. and
 the execution didn't take place until 6:40 p.m.

 Demps called the execution a "low-tech lynching by poison."

 "Governor Bush, you have done what you said you would never
 do and that's kill an innocent man," Demps said.

 Demps was officially declared dead at 6:53 p.m., 13 minutes
 after the lethal cocktail of chemicals was administered intravenously.

 The execution was scheduled for 6 p.m., but was delayed for
 a few reasons, according to Justin Sayfie, a spokesman for Gov. Jeb
 Bush.

 Both the U.S. Supreme Court and the 11th U.S. Circuit Court
 of Appeals in Atlanta turned down appeals Wednesday, but the paperwork
 from the Supreme Court wasn't received until 5:30 p.m., Sayfie said.

 There were also problems with the IV, Sayfie said. The
 technicians had trouble finding a vein for an alternate IV and finally
 decided to just use a primary line that was already inserted into Demps'
 left arm.

 Schaefer said he would ask State Attorney Rod Smith to
 investigate Demps' allegations that he was mistreated during the
 procedure.

 Schaefer said he was concerned about the delay and Demps'
 claims that he was cut in the leg and groin during attempts to find an
 alternate line and it was painful.

 The Apostolic Nuncio Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo, on behalf
 of Pope John Paul II, sent a letter to the governor asking for clemency
 for Demps.

 Bush received the letter less than a hour before the
 execution, Sayfie said.

 The Pope has intervened in only a handful of Florida death
 penalty cases.

 The evening execution reflects a change in Florida State
 Prison execution proceedings. In the past, they usually were set for
 early mornings.

 Demps, 49, a Marine wounded in Vietnam, previously had
 escaped three dates with the electric chair. He said he now was being
 executed because he had cheated the executioner in a 1971 double murder.

 "They are trying to execute me in this case for that case,"
 Demps said in an interview Tuesday. "They want a free execution."

 Demps was served a last meal of barbecue chicken and beef,
 french fries, dinner salad, Spanish rice, rolls, cherry vanilla and
 butter pecan ice cream, a mango, banana pudding and Pepsi. He only ate
 half of the meal.

 Over his last several days, he received visits from his
 wife, Tracy Carothers Demps, of Surrey, British Columbia. She sat in a
 car outside the prison before the execution was scheduled to take place.

 Demps was first condemned for the 1971 murders of R.N.
 Brinkworth and Celia Puhlick, fatally shot in a Lake County citrus
 grove. They were inspecting land when they happened upon Demps, who had
 fled to the grove with a stolen safe.

 A year after Demps was sent to death row, the Supreme Court
 threw out capital punishment across the country. Demps was one of 97
 Florida inmates taken off death row.

 In July 1976, the nation's high court upheld Florida's new
 death law. Two months later, on Sept. 6, 1976, Sturgis was stabbed to
 death at Florida State Prison.

 The dying Sturgis told a prison guard that Demps and another
 inmate had held him down while a third inmate stabbed him.

 "They have used me as the poster boy of the death penalty,"
 Demps said Tuesday. "I am an innocent man, wrongly convicted in this
 murder, and I should be allowed to prove it."

 The Florida Supreme Court in 1981 upheld Demps' death
 sentence in Sturgis' slaying, rejecting his argument that it should be
 overturned because the other two inmates were given life sentences.
 Judges noted that the other two had no prior murder convictions.

 Demps was the third inmate executed this year, and the third
 by lethal injection. Since Florida resumed the death penalty, 46 other
 inmates have been put to death, all but this year's in the electric
 chair.

 Thomas Provenzano, 50, is 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2

2000-06-07 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000607b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/06_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No geckos were genetically engineered to produce this bulletin. Not yet.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The Sun King Rules: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~redessa/sun-king/rules/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Outerspace Sailing Ship Unveiled. BERLIN (AP) - Just as early explorers
  reached new continents in sailing ships, so will humans sail out into the
  solar system - but by harnessing the power of sunlight instead of wind.
  That's the vision of a group of engineers who unveiled a prototype solar
  sail designed to capture the energy of the sun and transport humans and
  cargo through space without engines or fuel. It can do it at speeds of
  223,220 mph, nearly 10 times as fast as the U.S. space shuttle and quick
  enough to get you from Los Angeles to New York in a little over a minute.
  "This is our mission, to project mankind beyond the loneliness of our
  own solar system," said Nersi Razavi, whose Paris-based company Star
  of Tolerance is the first to contract the solar sail for commercial
  use. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567142802-657

: Have you sailed to any new planets/stars/galaxies/universes lately? Do the
Reptilioids depend on solar sails? Are they incredibly patient? Can we hope
to out-wait them? Whaddya do if you sail tears when you're between stars??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# I was lost, but now I'm found: LOST CITY DISCOVERED IN PERUVIAN JUNGLE -
  ARCHAEOLOGISTS DISCOVER 3 LOST EGYPTIAN CITIES - LOST CITIES FOUND UNDER
  MEDITERRANEAN - TURKEY DELAYS FLOODING OF ANCIENT ROMAN CITY - ANCIENT
  CITY FOUND, IRRADIATED FROM ATOMIC BLAST: http://revelation66.pitas.com/

@ STONE, TONES, AND STONEHENGE: Alphanumeric Synchronicities And Ancient
  Tales Of Singing Stones. La la la la: http://www.caus.org/cz052600.htm
@ Another Stonehenge - wind whistles thru megaliths along Columbia River:
  http://www.dusty-corner-of-the.net/hotsprings/washington/maryhill.html

# Skyscrapers of the Sands. Do these unique 30m tall obelisks represent
  something more than memorials to ancient dead Ethiopian kings? Author
  JJ points out the remarkable similarity with current highrise building
  techniques found in cities throughout our modern world. Closer examination
  of this picture reveals strikingly detailed structural evidence in support
  of such a proposal. http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/jj_sots.htm

: Have you discovered/hidden/designed/obliterated (m)any ancient structures
lately? What's your favorite lost city/temple/megalith/civilization? Do lost
sites deserve to remain lost? Were they lost for a good reason? Can we care?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# POLL: MOST IN US LOVE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. Nearly half of all U.S. households
  have Internet access, and suburbanites lead the way in embracing new home
  technologies: http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/06/digital.innovation/

# Popular Firewall Vulnerable To DoS. A security wonk has found a flaw in a
  popular firewall that makes it vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks.
http://computerworld.com/home/print.nsf/(frames)/000607E692?OpenDocument~f

# Poll: Few Affected By I Love You Virus. Fewer than one in 15 U.S. firms
  suffered substantial disruption because of the "I Love You" virus. Whew.
  http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2029120.html?tag=st.ne.ron.lthd.ni

: Have any new technologies seduced/overwhelmed/infected/zapped you lately?
Do you love new technologies anyway? Do they take over your brain, reducing
your critical/analytical reflex, insinuate themselves into your unconscious?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Gecko's amazing sticky feet. (BBC) The mystery of how geckos manage to
  scurry up walls and stick to ceilings may have been solved by scientists.
  It seems the little lizards have a network of tiny hairs and pads on their
  feet which produce electrical attractions that literally glue the animals
  down. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_781000/781611.stm

@ Links - Kellar Autumn Lab http://www.lclark.edu/~autumn/dept/index.html
@ Robert J Full http://polypedal.berkeley.edu/Profs_office/Full/Full_home

# Also - Lucky Lizard - but is this all a Reptilioid/Republican plot?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_253000/253510.stm
# The incredible shrinking iguana - Honey, I Shrunk The Reptilioid!
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_593000/593590.stm

: Have you climbed any walls lately?Did Reptilioids help/engineer/breed you?
Have you driven anyone up the wall? Would you like to be modified to walk as
geckos do? Would you like to modify others? Who would you start with? When??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Space Weather News for 

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread Robert F. Tatman

Two possibilities occur to me off the top of my head: first, the
ultraterrestrials are constantly need fresh genetic material.  Folklore is
consistent around the globe that they are extremely long-lived, and
long-lived species usually have low rates of reproduction--hence the need
for "breeders.".  The second notion, which just occurred to me, is that the
ultraterrestrials might actually be symbiotic with humans...that is, human
genetic material, sperm, ova, what-have-you, is a physical requirement for
them to reproduce.  Think of the legends of incubi and succubi, who "ravish"
unwary humans in their sleep...

- Original Message -
From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)


 From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why
does
  time seem altered for those they have captured?

 Perhaps the time alteration is due to their interdimensionality...the
'space'
 they inhabit is doesn't intersect, or only intersects at one finite point,
with
 our 'time-space continuum'...

 As to WHY they wish to attract and capture us...well, humanity has
basically
 debated that question for millenia (if we accept that what humanity has in
the
 past labeled 'angels', 'demons', 'faieries', 'devas', 'wee folk', etc. are
now
 called 'aliens')...

 Why did faieries abduct humans in the past (if there is any basis to old
folk
 tales?)?  Why are angels and demons concerned with us?


 June


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Re: [CTRL] ENVIRONMENT-TRADE: US Drops Move to Fight Ruling on Trade Panels

2000-06-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

6/7/00

Don't fall for this. This is a ploy to de-fang environmentalists and labor.
By throwing them a few crumbs, they hope to shut them up about globalization.

The problem is the effects of Big Business going global. NOT whether Greens
and unions have representation.

This is an attempt to buy off the opposition with crumbs.

Joshua2

IGC News Desk wrote:

Copyright 2000 InterPress Service, all rights reserved.
   Worldwide distribution via the APC networks.

   *** 06-Jun-0* ***

 Title: ENVIRONMENT-TRADE: US Drops Move to Fight Ruling on Trade Panels

 By Danielle Knight

 WASHINGTON, Jun 6 (IPS) - The US government, to the cheers of
 environmentalists, has dropped its appeal of a Federal court
 ruling that forced it to include representatives of environmental
 groups on two of its industry-dominated trade advisory panels.

 The US Trade Representative (USTR) and Department of Commerce
 dismissed the appeal on Jul. 2, a move seen by environmental
 groups as the first step in democratising how trade policy is made
 in this country.

 Together the two government agencies have almost two dozen
 advisory committees on trade policy - that are comprised only of
 corporate and industry representatives.

 Now, two representatives from environmental groups have been
 formally appointed to two trade advisory panels that discuss trade
 in lumber and paper products.

 A spokeswoman at the USTR told IPS that the removal of the appeal
 was not a sudden turn around in policy.

 "The Administration (of US President Bill Clinton) has had a long
 standing commitment toward greater inclusiveness of environmental
 and consumer organisations," she said.

 Environmental groups praised the move as the beginning of opening
 up trade policy to citizens' views.

 ''In a democracy, industry should not be the only interest
 represented in setting our trade policies," says Patti Goldman, an
 attorney with Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund, who filed the
 lawsuit leading to the appointments.

 Environmental groups, many of the same who protested against the
 World Trade Organisation (WTO) in the streets of Seattle,
 Washington last year, argued that the make-up of these panels
 violated US law which requires trade advisory panels to be
 balanced and not comprised only of business and industry leaders.

 Information shared between industry and the USTR is not publicly
 released, except for brief summaries of subjects discussed.
 Meanwhile, the environmental consequences of trade agreements can
 be enormous, according to environmental organisations.

 They say that the make-up of these advisory panels reflect how
 trade agreements - including policy made through the WTO - have
 often been worked out in an undemocratic manner, behind closed
 doors and with no public participation. Groups made some headway
 last year when a Federal Court took their side.

 Last November Federal District Court Judge Barbara Rothstein ruled
 that the Trade Representative and Commerce Secretary had violated
 the Federal Advisory Committee Act by limiting membership on the
 paper and wood products committees to industry officials.

 "The composition of the forest product Industry Sector Advisory
 Committees (ISACs) ... violates (the law's) requirement to be
 fairly balanced in terms of viewpoints represented," wrote
 Rothstein in her ruling.

 Following the judge's ruling, the USTR's paper products trade
 committees met without any environmental representatives. So,
 environmentalists went back to court to obtain a further ruling in
 December directing the Administration to have an environmental
 representative at the next committee meeting.

 Then in January, in a joint announcement by the USTR and
 Department of Commerce, the agencies said they would appeal the
 court's ruling. Just before the appeal was dropped two
 representatives of environmental organisations received
 invitations from the federal agencies to serve on two ISACs.

 Yet, environmental advocacy organisations say these two
 appointments hardly equal balanced representation on panels
 containing up to 15 industry representatives.

 "One could say that the composition of the forest products ISACs
 looks more like a lynch mob than a committee since they have one
 lone environmentalist and about eight timber industry bosses,"
 says Doug Norlen, a policy analyst with the Pacific Environment
 and Resources Center, the environmental appointee to the paper and
 paper products advisory panel.

 Industry members of the paper and products trade advisory
 committee include such corporate heavy-weights as the senior vice
 president of the International Paper Company, the vice president
 of Westvaco Worldwide, and the vice president of Georgia-Pacific
 Corporation.

 Norlen was one of the environmentalists in Seattle last year
 protesting against the WTO policies and the USTR's push to
 eliminate barriers to trade in paper and wood products.

 

Re: [CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, William Shannon wrote:

 
 Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their
 freedom, their confidence, and their future.
 


 What a load of hooey!

 Bill.


lol.

We finally agree on something.

Mike


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   The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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[CTRL] [Fwd: ITT: NATO's Bombing of Chinese Embassy]

2000-06-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 Original Message 
Subject: ITT: NATO's Bombing of Chinese Embassy
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:18:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel)
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http://www.inthesetimes.com/ackerman2415.html

June 26, 2000

May 7 marked the anniversary of one of the most fateful episodes
of 1999:  the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade during
NATO's war on Yugoslavia.  NATO and the United States apologized
for the bombing and called it an accident; China rejected the
apology and Washington's explanation - that a "faulty map" led to
the "mistaken" bombing.

Until recently, remarkably little serious investigation of the
bombing had been undertaken by the American press. This is not the
case in Europe. Late last year, the London Observer and Denmark's
prestigious Politiken newspaper jointly published an explosive
expos: Sourced to European and NATO officials, the papers charged
that the bombing had been a deliberate Radio Free Burundi American
act of retaliation against China for its rebroadcasting of Yugoslav
military transmissions from within the intelligence wing of its
Belgrade embassy (see "A Tragic Mistake?" December 12, 1999).

Now new information has emerged in the American press raising more
disturbing questions about how - and why - the attack was carried
out.

Following the Observer-Politiken report, the media watch group FAIR
called on U.S.  newspapers, including the New York Times, to
investigate the bombing. At first, Times foreign editor Andrew
Rosenthal simply said that his reporters had been unable to confirm
the Observer's allegations. But hundreds of readers wrote to the
Times calling for an inquiry, and on April 17 the paper finally
printed a lengthy investigative story that revealed telling details
about the attack.

The Times story can be read on two levels.  Superficially, the
piece gives the impression that the Observer's charges have proven
groundless: "The investigation produced no evidence that the bombing
of the embassy had been a deliberate act," the Times reported.
But read more closely, Pentagon reporter Steven Lee Myers' piece
conveys a nagging sense of doubt about the CIA and Pentagon's
protestations of innocence. Myers characterizes the official account
of the targeting process as a "bizarre chain" of missteps. And he
pointedly ends his article on a skeptical note, citing Rep. Porter
Goss (R-Fla.), who was briefed on the bombing by CIA and Pentagon
officials: "In the end, he said he was confident in their assurances
it had not been a deliberate strike. He paused, then added, 'unless
some people are lying to me.' "

Seth Ackerman is a media analyst for FAIR.

In These Times 2000 Vol. 24, No. 15

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[CTRL] Black leader defends Confederate Flag

2000-06-07 Thread The Extremist

Tribune Exclusive Interview

Black leader defends Confederate Flag, responds to violent attackers
By Dana Davis, The Tribune

Confederate Flag defender, political activist, former President of the
Asheville chapter of the NAACP and 52-year-old black man, H.K.
Edgerton was recently accosted by two black men while standing by
his confederate flag in front of Asheville High School. Though he was
appalled by the alleged violent actions of 19-year-old high school
drop-out Andre Dewayne and 32-year-old Kevin Miller, he
concedes, "I know and understand their pain because they've been
lied to for so long. A lot of people know nothing about that time in
history."

Describing the event, Edgerton recalls, "A man approached me
quickly and when he got a foot away from me, he lunged at me, tried
to grab my flag, spit on me, spit on my flag, bent my flag pole. Then
another man, who was older, came. I thought he was going to stop
him, but he joined in, striking and spitting on me and bending my flag
even more." Edgerton said the incident left lingering injuries to his
shoulder.

Though Edgerton empathizes with the anguish of the two men he
asserts, "You have to know how to conduct yourselves. And give a
man a chance to speak. Many people have heckled me and cursed at
me. When giving speeches I've had blacks heckle me and they had to
be removed in Columbia and Charleston, but never has anyone
accosted me or my flag. It is my 1st amendment right to take a stand,
and you must not violate my right to do so."

Edgerton blames the media and the educational system for creating
the perception that exists today regarding southern history. "This is a
continuation about the lies of the Christian southern white folks during
the Civil War. African Americans in this country don't know a thing
about that war and that time. They see that flag and someone says
slavery and it all falls apart and they think of Southern Christian white
folks as being evil."

"We can't let the stars and stripes get away that easy. Never were the
stars and bars flag flown over a slave ship. And you want to know
why? Because it's a Christian Battle Flag that was emulated after St.
Andrew, Jesus Christ's first disciple. In 69 A.D. in Petro, Greece --
now a part of Russia -- St. Andrew was jailed because of his teaching
and preaching of Jesus Christ, his Lord and Master, and he was told
he was going to be crucified on the cross. He begged that persecutor
not to nail him to that Latin cross in the shape of "T" because he was
not worthy of being punished the way Jesus Christ had been nailed.
So he begged to be tied in an X-shape to the cross and the
persecutor did what he asked him to. That X is a Greek symbol to
CH, the first two letters in Christ's name. When St. Andrew was on
the cross he continued his teaching of Christ and all the folks started
believing him and for three days he remained on that cross teaching
and after three days they begged the persecutor to take him down
and when he did, St. Andrew came down off that cross and died, and
he became a martyr and a saint.

"When (Civil War Confederate ) General Beaureguard decided they
needed another flag, he chose the cross of St. Andrew for these
reasons. Most Southerners, in fact, did not want to do away with the
stars and stripes because they didn't feel they had done anything
wrong. They thought it was the north who was eradicating the
Constitution.

"And as for President Lincoln, our American hero, who signed the
Emancipation Proclamation. In march of 1861 Abraham Lincoln
called all those black leaders in his office and he told them -- Even if I
set you free you'll be inferior. You need to get out of the country
because I will colonize you. Lincoln proposed the 13th Amendment,
being the only President ever to do so. That amendment said
Congress would never have the power to interrupt an institution of
state. He told the southerners they could keep the slaves if they paid
the North a 42% tariff. The South agreed to a 10% tariff but not 42%
. So, who I am supposed to blame the institution of slavery on?

"At that time, one of the richest men in the world, John D. Rothchild
told his family to put all their money into the Confederacy and
described Lincoln as a crook. He said the slaves in the south were
better off than the slaves in the north who had to work for next to
nothing in the cotton mills.

"The attack on the Confederacy doesn't get the attention it deserves.
These blacks today have no idea what took place back then. (Blacks)
earned a place of dignity in that war. If it wasn't for Africans that war
would have lasted four days, not four years. We made all of the
implements of war, we fought, we participated -- not one slave
insurrection happened during that period of time. They did not have
whips and guns forcing them to be there. God and his infinite wisdom
brought these people here. He brought about a love between master
and slave that has never happened before. If you search this
empirically 

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

You are certainly right Nessie.  Perhaps what is the motivation behind it would be 
personal TRANSFORMATION or at least to study the psychology of personal metamorphosis 
in a non-clinical, "real world" environment.
Seeking to control how and why people make fundamental changes in their behavior and 
lives would be a fruitful area for black-ops, totalitarian police state thugs to look 
into, don't you think?


On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
 
 What does it show us?  That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in
 fact may be one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is
 carried out in the first place



 On the other hand, it is not at all uncommon for people who have been
 througha psychologically traumatic experience to process it as a life
 changing event. I myself had a a couple near death experiences at an
 impressionable age and I'm a totally different person today than I would
 have been had they not happened. It didn't make me spiritual, but it sure
 did make me philosophical. Get shot, crash a bike, survive cancer, watch a
 friend die, lose your house to fire, get married, get divorced, have a
 kid, get arrested. Any of these things have the potential to turn a person
 spiritual. I've seen it happen. I dare say that if I honestly thought I'd
 been abducted by aliens I'd be a different guy later no matter what
 actually happened in real life. So would you.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: PEPIS #19 - Bilderberg 2000 participants]

2000-06-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 Original Message 
Subject: PEPIS #19 - Bilderberg 2000 participants
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 00:48:48 +0100
From: Tony Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1. Unelected European Commissioner Pascal Lamy - skulks into Bilderberg
2000 - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/grattan_healy/Bilderberg.html


2. Bilderberg 'Press Release' - 3 June 2000
Full details: http://www.bilderberg.org/2000.htm

[This 'press release' was prized out of the Chateau du Lac lunchtime on
Saturday 3 June, just as participants were leaving. No participant list was
available while the conference was in session.  There was critical coverage
in Belgian daily De Morgen and on Belgian TV]


PRESS RELEASE

BILDERBERG MEETINGS

3 June 2000

The 48th Bilderberg meeting was held in Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000.
Among other subjects the Conference discussed US Elections, Globalisation,
New Economy, the Balkans, EU Enlargement, the European Far Right.
Approximately 100 participants from North America and Europe attended the
discussions. The meeting was private in order to encourage frank and open
discussion. [why then are all participants also told not to refer even to
the fact they have attended?]

..

Bilderberg's only activity is its annual conference. [apart from the
steering group which meets between conferences] ... There are usually
about 120 participants of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the
balance from North America. About one-third are from government and
politics, and two thirds from finance, industry, labor, education,
communications. [I see no representatives of trades unions here at all, ed.]

Participants have agreed not to give interviews to the press during the
meeting. In contacts with the news media after the conference it is an
established rule that no attribution should be made to individual
participants of what was discussed during the meeting.

There will be no press conference. A list of participants is appended.


BILDERBERG MEETINGS Brussels, Belgium 1-3 June 2000 LIST OF PARTICIPANTS 3
June 2000

Honorary Chairman:

B, Etienne Davignon; Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique;


Honorary Secretary General:

GB, J. Martin Taylor; Chairman, WH Smith Group PLC, International Adviser,
Goldman Sachs International


I, Agnelli, Giovanni; Honourary Chairman, Fiat SpA.

I, Agnelli, Umberto; Chairman, IFIL - Finanziaria di Partecipazioni SpA.

E, Aguirre y Gil de Biedma, Esperenza; President, The Spanish Senate

USA, Allaire, Paul; Chairman of the boardof Directors and CEO, Xerox
Corporation

I, Ambrosetti, Alfredo, Ambrosetti Group

DK, Andersen, Bodil Nyboe; Governor, Central Bank of Denmark

CDN, Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc.

INT, Avery, Graham; Chief Adviser for Enlargement, European Community

P, Balsemão, Francisco Pinto; Professor of Communication Science, New
University, Lisbon; Chairman, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.

S, Barnevik, Percy; Chairman, Investor AB

NL, Benschop, Dick; State Secretary for European Affairs

I, Bernabè, Franco; Special Representative of Italy for Reconstruction
Initiatives in the Balkans

D, Betz, Hans-Georg; Visiting Proffessor, European Studies, Centre for
European Studies, Columbia and New York Universities

INT, Bildt, Carl; Special Envoy of the Secretary-General for the Balkans,
United Nations

CDN, Black, Conrad; Chair, Telegraph Group Ltd.

IRL, Bruton, John; Leader of Fine Gael (Opposition Party)

GB, Buchanan, Robin WT; Senior Partner, Bain  Co Inc.

GB, Clarke, Kenneth; Member of Parliament (Conservative)

TR, Çolakoglu, Nuri; Chairman and CEO, NTV

F, Collomb, Bertrand; Chairman and CEO, Lafarge

D, Cromme, Gerhard; Chairman of the Executive Board, Thyssen Krupp AG

GR, David, George A; Chairman of the Board, Hellenic Bottling Company SA

USA, Deutch, John M, Institute Professor, MIT

GR, Diamandouros, P Nikiforos; National Ombudsman

USA, Dodd, Christopher J; Senator (Democrat, Connecticut)

USA, Donilon, Thomas E; Senior Vice-President, General Counsel and
Secretary, FannieMae

USA, Dyson, Esther; Chairman, EDventure Holdings Inc.

INT, Fréchette, Louise; Deputy Secretary-General, United Nations

I, Fresco, Paolo; Chairman, Fiat SpA

CDN, Frum, David; Columnist, National Post Newspaper

P, Gouveia, Teresa Patrício; Member of Parliament (PSD)

USA, Graham, Donald E; Publisher, The Washington Post

USA, Hagel, Chuck; Senator (Republican, Nebraska)

NL, Halberstadt, Victor; Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former
Honorary Secretary-General of Bilderberg Meetings

N, Hambro, Christian; Director-General, Research Council of Norway

A, Hampel, Erich; Chairman, Creditanstalt-Bankverein

USA, Hutchison, Kay Bailey; Senator (Republican, Texas)

B, Huyghebaert, Jan; Chairman, Almanij NV

B, Janssen, Daniel E; Chairman, Solvay SA

S, Johansson, Leif; President and CEO, Volvo AB

USA, Johnson, James A; Chairman and CEO, Johnson Capital Partners

USA, Jordan Jr, Vernon E; Managing Director, Lazard Frères  Co. LLC

Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)

2000-06-07 Thread tenebroust

If there are these creatures as you posit, then why is it that they have to have an 
agenda?  It may be that there interaction with us is coincidental, or accidental, or 
that the times that they actually DO things to us or with us it is the action of BAD 
members of that race who are trying to get ahead in the world, much like humans 
exploit other humans.  It could be cultural, or ritual as well.  Maybe we are the 
subject of mythology in their culture, and they are merely trying to study us?



On Wed, 07 June 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote:


 OK, I could have called them "infraterrestrials" or "metaterrestrials"
 instead of "ultraterrestrials."  All that I meant by using
 "ultraterrestrial" was that they would be just as much products of Earthly
 evolution as are human beings.  However, I've seen the term
 "ultraterrestrial" used to refer to a physical race of intelligent entities
 who, like humans, evolved on Earth, but in a radically different direction.
 Just what that direction was, remains to be seen.  My guess here is that
 they are essentially the same as the "fairies" (goblins, Heinzelmännchen,
 fée, etc.) found in every culture on the planet.  Sometimes they're
 worshipped as gods, ancestors, or both; sometimes feared as demons, incubi,
 succubi; sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and
 accepted.  The one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is
 that they are able to project an image of themselves that  "casts a glamour"
 on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space
 aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment.
 As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely.

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  I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense.
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[CTRL] Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure

2000-06-07 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

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Fourth Amendment Sneak Attack
Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure.

By Dave Kopel, of the Independence Institute

The Reno Department of Justice is very good at being sneaky. The DOJ's
lobbyists are on the verge of successfully sneaking into law a provision
which will authorize federal agents to stealthily enter people's homes,
search the homes, and not tell anyone.

The Secret Searches measure is so outrageous that it would have no
chance of being enacted as a bill on its own, when subjected to public
scrutiny and debate. So instead, the DOJ has nestled the Secret Search
item deep inside a long bill dealing with methamphetimines. The measure
is further disguised with the innocuous title of "Notice Clarification."

Subject to virtually no public discussion, the Secret Searches item has
already passed the Senate, hidden inside the methamphetimine giant S.
486. Next week, the House Judiciary Committee will take up H.R. 2987,
the House version of the Senate bill, which also contains the buried
clause on Secret Searches (section 301). The federal bankruptcy reform
bill (which has passed both houses, and is currently in a conference
committee) likewise has the hidden Secret Searches language.

If the Secret Searches provision became law, it would apply to all
searches conducted by the federal government, not just searches
involving methamphetimines or bankruptcy.

When conducting searches, federal agents are currently required to
announce their presence before entering, and to provide an inventory of
any items they take. Because the person whose home or business is being
searched knows about the search, he can exercise his Fourth Amendment
rights, and make sure that the police have a properly-issued search
warrant. He can also see if the search is being conducted according to
the warrant's terms   i.e., the police are searching only for items
authorized by the warrant, they are searching the right address, etc.

But under a Secret Searches law, federal police could enter a person's
home surreptitiously, conduct a search, and not tell the homeowner until
months later.

Even months later, the police would not have to provide an inventory of
"intangible" items which were taken in a search. So if the police
entered your home secretly, and photocopied your diary or made a copy of
your computer hard disk, they would never have to inform you of their
actions.

Should the Secret Searches item be deleted from the methamphetimine and
bankruptcy bills, it is likely that Clinton will try to sneak the item
into a gigantic budget bill, during the Congressional Republicans'
annual fall appropriations surrender. Take note: In a previous Congress,
Clinton was able to obtain authority for warrantless wiretaps   which
had been defeated after public debate earlier in the year   by hiding
the authority in the year's omnibus budget bill.

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[CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.

2000-06-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

6/7/00

If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government on earth to
pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative operations. Legalized
bribery.

How to do this?

By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform ' or some watered
down facsimile thereof, as a rider on the Space Based Weapons Bill, A.K.A. Son
of Star Wars, A.K.A. SDI.

Is this what Capitalism has done to the American democratic experiment?

Granny D has overexerted herself on her long admirable journey across America.
Let the bastards stink from the head. SDI is a cure much worse than the disease.

Joshua2
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: Message from Granny D

Dear Dennis, please send this out as soon as you can to my friends list.
Doris


Dear Friend,

John McCain called to say he and Sen. Feingold will try to attach their
soft money ban as an amendment on a big Defense Authorization bill today in
the U.S. Senate. John and Russ are sticking with this effort, and I think
we should help them as much as possible by calling our own U.S. Senators
and saying we care about campaign reform and we want them to vote in favor
of the McCain-Feingold bill as an amendment to the defense bill.

I know that long distance phone calls are expensive, but I hope you can do
it anyway. All you have to do is call the Senate switchboard and they will
put you through. If you forget their names, just ask the operator to help
you. All they need is the name of your state, of course. There are two
senators from your state, so two calls would be grand, but one would
certainly help.

I am very appreciative of any effort you can make on this. Time is very
important! It may happen today or tomorrow!

Very sincerely,

Doris Haddock



Ps. The Capitol switchboard is 202-225-3121. Also, if you can send this
along to your friends, please do.

Pps. Sen. McCain refused to attend a Bush fundraiser in Arizona last week
because soft money would be raised in the room. I think that was the right
thing to do. I hope some Dem. Senators will do the same in regard to Mr.
Gore's soft money events.

Pps. Here is a short speech I gave in Boston today, to try to help them
save their campaign reform law, passed by the voters 2-to-1, from the Mass.
House, which is trying to gut it! If you live in Mass, I hope you will
contact your state House member!!


?fontfamily?param HelveticaThank you,

We elect our representatives to represent our values and our needs in
shaping public policy and allocating community resources. In this work, the
regular citizen doesn't stand a chance if elected representatives must
first go to wealthy special interests to fund their campaigns. The
representation game is over before it begins.

It is nothing particularly new. But in the past, the wealthy lived among
us. We shopped in their stores on Main Street and their children went to
grade school with ours. We shared the same community interests and values.

We are now talking about inhumane organizations of inhuman scale and
international allegiance. They care not if our main streets or our families
prosper or if they blow away. We must not have these monsters influencing
our community decisions. We must not allow them to provide funds for our
candidates, where those funds will deny us proper representation.

We struggle here for the very survival of representative democracy. The
people of Massachusetts have seen this problem and they have acted at the
ballot box to create a new way to fund candidates, free of excessive
influence by wealthy special interests.

But those same wealthy interests have their agents in this state house, and
they will destroy what the people have done at the ballot, if they can. It
is called the overturning of an election, and the method of this coup is
the continuing use of campaign contributions to corruptly purchase public
policy.

The people have have spoken clearly in favor of this historic reform. Did
the members of the House not hear them? Do they need for the people to
speak again--this time in the coming House elections?

At the ballot box, the people have provided for the public financing of
candidates who choose to say No to all special interest campaign donations.
Their action comes at a time when citizens believe that their voices in
government are drowned out by floods of special interest money, and they
are right. No one seriously argues that point anymore--the flood is too
great Pubic interest groups on the left and right, from the Cato Institute
to Common Cause, agree that, for every dollar given to a candidate by a
special interest group, over ten dollars in special tax breaks are given in
return. This is nothing less than full public financing, but it is a poor
system of public financing. By directly funding qualified campaigns with
public funds, we can eliminate nine of the ten dollars paid by taxpayers
--now paid in the form 

Re: [CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.

2000-06-07 Thread M.A. Johnson

Joshua2
 If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government
 on earth to pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative
 operations. Legalized bribery.
 How to do this?
 By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform '
 or some watered down facsimile thereof, as a rider on the Space
 Based Weapons Bill, A.K.A. Son of Star Wars, A.K.A. SDI.

MJ
Why not simply remove ALL of the 'payoffs'?
Reduce government to its legitimate function of protecting ALL
individuals from force and fraud?

Removing more individual rights serves ONLY to exacerbate the
problem.


Joshua2
  Is this what Capitalism has done to the American democratic
  experiment?

MJ
No.



Joshua2
  Granny D has overexerted herself on her long admirable journey
  across America. Let the bastards stink from the head. SDI is a
  cure much worse than the disease.

MJ
The 'idea' is good ... the method for implementation is wrong.

Regard$,
--MJ

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concluding that the people who wrote it
wanted their government severely limited;
the words "no" and "not" employed in restraint
of government power occur 24 times in the first
seven articles of the Constitution and 22 more
times in the Bill of Rights. - Edmund A. Opitz

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[CTRL] Fwd: Charles Manson the Solar Lodge of the OTO

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan





Explanatory Note:  
 The research of Jerry Cornelius regarding any contact Charles
Manson may have had with the Solar (Riverside) Lodge of the OTO, as
published in Scribe (vol.1, no. 7, 1997), leads him to a wall of denial.
Cornelius, in a hotly-written rebuttal, disagrees with me and other
writers, particularly Ed Sanders and Peter Levenda, about the
relationsip: "The most common misconception about the Solar Lodge that
authors love to foster is the connection with Charlie Manson. Contrary
to what some would like readers to believe, this is a misconception. He
was not a  member, nor is there any strong evidence that he ever visited
the group. The sole source of these stories is found in Ed Sanders' book
The Family published in 1971. Here Sanders wrote that at "least five
separate individuals have claimed that they were told by a member of
Brayton's rebel O.T.O. Lodge that Manson was involved with the Lodge."
These  allegations have never been substantiated and appear to be only
second hand gossip told to a third party who then talked to Sanders,
hardly the type of evidence which would stand up in a Court of Law. The
only tenuous connection to the Manson murders is that the Solar Lodge
problems occurred two months before the Tate-LaBianco murders We
find authors like Alex Constantine ... along with Peter Levenda, the
author of The Unholy Alliance, promoting the same old tired
misconceptions, if not creating new outright lies."
 Odd that Cornelius should attack Sanders, et al. As recounted below,
Sander's version of events originated with Grady McMurty, then the "Outer
Head" of the OTO: "When it became known that Manson had been a visitor to
Jean Brayton's O.T.O., McMurtry informed on Brayton to the FBI in order not
to get involved in the FBI's investigations. He also fed the journalist Ed
Sanders with material who as a return favour did not mention McMurtry in his
book 'The Family.'" If Sanders is breeding "lies," they began with McMurty
the FBI informant, himself.
 The following account by P.R, Koenig clarifies the connection, and
substantiates some of the allegations that Cornelius dismisses as "lies"
and "myths." The OTO has long attempted to revise history to distance
itself from the Solar Lodge and Charles Manson, but the Order's own
research, including the following, agrees with the published accounts
denounced by Jerry Cornelius (though there is some small disagreement on
details found in my own reporting, as noted in the text):
-

Charles Manson and the Solar Lodge of the O.T.O.
P.R. Koenig

New O.T.O. groups in the US
Although Charles Manson never had been member of any of the many O.T.O.
groups, the tabloid press often warms up his short contact with Georgina
Brayton's "Solar Lodge of the O.T.O." of the 1960s. The "Caliphate" (the
new American O.T.O. founded in 1977) often calls this earlier O.T.O.
lodge 'irregular', but Phyllis Seckler, a protagonist of the "Caliphate"
(the wife of its founder Grady L. McMurtry) recently admitted it to be a
real O.T.O. lodge. To exaggerate, without Manson the "Caliphate" would
not exist at all. -- Let's unroll the history a bit.
During Crowley's lifetime there was only one active O.T.O.- lodge in the
US; the so-called second Agape lodge in California. Since he was never
satisfied with its members and activities (entry in Crowley's diary 9
March 1945: "I place the Californian Lodge under INTERDICT.") Crowley
gave to one member of the group which he called fans, above mentioned
McMurtry, a special instruction: in case of emergency to take care of
this lodge, submitted to the veto of his heir, the German Karl Germer.
But Germer never thought highly about McMurtry (calling him a "Minus"
and considering the US as a "spiritual desert") and closed the Agape
Lodge on September 7, 1953 in order to favour the Swiss H.J. Metzger as
heir. Around this time, McMurtry completely lost his interest in the
O.T.O. and that's maybe why others continued O.T.O. activities in the
US. 
In the mid-1950s, two ex-members of this ex-Agape Lodge (dissolved in
1953), Ray and Mildred Burlingame, worked together with Georgina R.
(Jean) Brayton (born 29 December 1921) and her husband Richard
Montgomery Brayton (born 1911, university lecturer at the University of
California) on some of Crowley's O.T.O.-rituals. After Germer's death in
1962, the Brayton group started to call itself Solar Lodge of the O.T.O.
or Riverside Lodge of the O.T.O. and was something like a motherless
satellite of a dissolved lodge. Neither Burlingame nor the later
re-appearing McMurtry possessed the permission either to initiate or to
found a new lodge of the O.T.O. It is strictly and explicitly forbidden
to initiate or install lodges without permission by a superior,
according to the O.T.O. statutes.
Members of the Solar Lodge were accused of having ransacked the homes of
Sascha Germer, Israel Regardie and Mildred Burlingame in order to
collect O.T.O. 

[CTRL] Fwd: Iran/Iraq - oil prices

2000-06-07 Thread Kris Millegan





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Why the Price of Oil Will Likely Remain High

Summary

Iraq will soon increase oil exports by 700,000 barrels per day,
reopening the previously damaged Khor al-Omaia oil terminal.
However, illegal Iraqi oil exports depend on Iranian cooperation to
find their way to the open waters of the Persian Gulf. As a result,
Tehran will soon use its newfound leverage to influence decisions
on production and prices at the upcoming meeting of the
Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). If Tehran
gets its way, the price of oil will hover at the comparatively high
price of about $28 per barrel.

Analysis

Rafid al-Diboni, director general of Iraq's state-run Southern Oil
Company, told the Al-Ilam newspaper June 7 that two of four loading
quays at Khor al-Omaia oil terminal have been repaired and will
resume operations "soon." Located just west of Iraq's main oil
terminal at Mina al-Bakr, Khor al-Omaia was virtually destroyed in
the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war and damaged again in the 1991 Gulf War.

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA),
repairs began in 1993. When the terminal is fixed, its capacity
will near 1.2 million barrels per day (bpd). With two of four
loading quays reportedly repaired, Khor al-Omaia should be able to
boost exports by 600,000 to 700,000 barrels each day. With current
Iraqi production around 2.6 million barrels, such an increase would
put Iraq's output near 3.2 - 3.3 million bpd - close to pre-Gulf
War levels.

Iraq clearly timed its announcement in advance of the next OPEC
meeting in Vienna, Austria, in two weeks. There the cartel will
decide whether to raise production and lower prices, now at about
$28 per barrel. Baghdad probably made its announcement in the hope
of swaying the cartel not to raise production quotas; the Iraqi
regime is not subject to quotas because of U.N. sanctions dating
back to the Gulf War, and Baghdad favors limiting production and
propping up prices. Oil smuggling accounts for nearly all of the
country's revenues beyond the ceiling set by the U.N. oil-for-food
program.


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Iraq is effectively threatening to single-handedly affect the world
price of oil. At the June 21 meeting, OPEC members will have to
deal with the threat of increased Iraqi oil production. Whether
Iraq's claim is true or false, it must be dealt with as a
legitimate possibility. A 700,000 bpd increase by Iraq would equal
half of the increase - 1.4 million bpd - that OPEC members agreed
to in March.

But Baghdad is not in control of its own oil shipments. Iraq's
archrival, Iran, controls routes to the Persian Gulf. U.S. Navy
Vice Adm. Charles Moore, coordinator of the U.S.-led Maritime
Interdiction Force, has said that Iran facilitated Iraqi oil
smuggling. Two months ago, Tehran suddenly ceased cooperation and
began seizing tankers. But on June 1, the Iranian regime apparently
resumed its tacit cooperation with smugglers, allowing them to
traverse coastal waters.

Iran has already demonstrated its willingness to use Iraqi
smuggling to its own political benefit, in both relations with OPEC
and with the United States. Iran opposed OPEC's March decision to
increase production and stabilize prices. Tehran began seizing
tankers shortly after the last OPEC meeting, where it withdrew from
the cartel's agreement.

The cartel's success has depended upon forging a strong political
consensus among competing members. Saudi Arabia and Venezuela,
along with non-member Mexico, spearheaded the production cuts of
March 1999 that, in turn, led to the highest oil prices since the
Gulf War. But since Iraq and Iran distanced themselves from the
cartel's March decision, OPEC has begun to fracture. The cartel's
ability to secure consensus has been severely damaged.
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Iran will come to Vienna ready to throw its weight around. Iraq
wants to export as much oil as possible - that is a given. But Iran
effectively controls the level of Iraqi exports. Therefore, the
announcement of 

[CTRL] What Did the Chinese Communists know about Bill Clinton ... (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:48:34 -0400
From: ML/NJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I asked this question some time ago.  I asked it because it has
been clear to me that the Chinese Communists actively supported
Bill Clinton in 1992 when he was criticizing President Bush for
being to close to the Chinese.

Today the TomPaine.com folks came close to addressing this in an
op-ed advertisement in the New York Times.  The following is the
text of their ad from:

http://www.tompaine.com/features/2000/06/05/index.html

followed by a note I sent them commenting on the ad.

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OUR NYT OP AD: Text

IN THE BACKSEAT WITH A BILLIONAIRE: A Story Told Eight Years
Later

The TomPaine.com Staff .


Picture this: A meeting in the backseat of a limousine. A
presidential candidate and a mysterious billionaire -- an
Indonesian with ties to the Chinese government.

The billionaire promises one million dollars for the candidate's
fall campaign. What he wants in exchange ... the audience is left
to imagine.

A scene from a movie about presidents and power? Unfortunately
not. This meeting really happened. The candidate: Bill Clinton.
The billionaire: James Riady.

The date of this encounter makes it interesting. Not 1996 -- the
campaign renowned for its Asian money scandal. This meeting
happened four years earlier, in 1992, and is related in a new
edition of Michael Isikoff's book, Uncovering Clinton.

Billionaire Riady made good on his word. Within days of the
conversation he arranged the first round of donations.
Eventually, his family and associates gave $986,000 -- enough to
make them the largest donors to the Democratic Party that year.
Bigger than the trial lawyers association. Bigger than the
teachers' unions.

It's astonishing that we hear this story eight years after the
fact. It was a major event in a hard-fought campaign covered by
thousands of journalists eager to become the next Woodward or
Bernstein.

Yet not one uncovered the true source of the largest donations
made that year to the Clinton-Gore team. Now think of the
coverage lavished on Elian or O.J.

No less astonishing -- we still don't know what return Riady
asked for or earned for his investment. We may never know.

It makes us wonder. ... What promises are flying now between
political patrons and the cash-hungry candidates who want to be
"public" servants?

Will we have to wait eight years to find out? Will we ever know?

This week at TomPaine.com -- In the Back Seat with a Billionaire.
Featuring excerpts from the new edition of Uncovering Clinton
(Three Rivers Press) and documents never before published.

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I've been seeing you NYT Op-ed ads and thinking I wanted to check
out what you had to say.

Today's ad finally caused me to look at you site.

The ad says a lot, but it doesn't say enough.

It omits an important historical fact.  That is that Bill Clinton
accused George Bush of "coddling" the Chinese Communists during
that 1992.  I agreed with that sentiment and it was one of the
reasons I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992.  George Bush did seem
to have a soft spot for the Chinese Communists.

The question I would ask is: WHAT DID THE COMMUNIST CHINESE KNOW
ABOUT BILL CLINTON IN 1992 THAT AMERICAN VOTERS DID NOT KNOW.

It just doesn't make sense that they would dump money into the
campaign of someone who was campaigning for a harder line against
them.  They already had a relatively friendly known quantity in
the White House and they helped to defeat him.

One other "historical" note.  It wasn't just Riady.  Charlie Trie
was apparently "cultivating" Clinton, while he was Arkansas
governor, as the operator of "that Chinese restaurant he liked so
much." (Hillary's words)

Methinks he is The Manchurian Candidate. (and remember: I voted
for him.)

ML/NJ



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[CTRL] DOCS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED WITH CUBA

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[You all NEED to check this out!  It is a jpg file, so it is not
possible to cut an excerpt and I'm too lazy to transcribe it.
But, be sure to read at least the 2nd paragraph.  --MS]


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[CTRL] New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as The Gun Owners Home Page

2000-06-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:46:07 -0400
From: Weldon Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as "The Gun Owners Home Page"

New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as "The Gun Owners Home
Page"

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 7, 2000

You can let the website's name speak for itself or read the
message from its executive director below. Regardless, this
website represents a vital and useful commitment to our right to
own, carry, and use firearms.

http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com

The executive director of KeepAndBearArms, Angel Shamaya, is
totally committed to expanding this new organization and is very
certain of it's purpose and value.  In his own words, "America
has been overrun with ineffective 'feel good' laws that do not
feel good at all to the long- suffering gun owners being forced
to submit to them. I refuse to let my country lapse into the same
ugly complacency that battered Britain and Australia into their
disarmed socialist Police States where only the police and the
criminals have guns. Americans are being lied to every single
day, all across this nation. We aim to set things straight."

KeepAndBearArms.com (KABA for short) seems to be doing something
right. The pro-gun media campaign organization Citizens Of
America (COA, http://www.CitizensOfAmerica.org) often works
closely with KABA, and the 50 Million Round March
(http://www.50mrmarch.com) just struck an agreement with KABA
that could prove immensely beneficial to both. SierraTimes.com is
promoting KABA on their home page, and Larry Pratt, Executive
Director of Gun Owners of America says, "I personally use the
news service KABA provides. GOA is in an information business,
and KABA has become an extremely important resource for us." COA
President Brian Puckett agrees. GOA is advertising on KABA's home
page, hoping to attract newly active gun owners to their large
and growing organization.

Information is KeepAndBearArms.com's specialty, says KABA
director Shamaya. Daily news from a growing number of top-notch
writers and a host of categorized writings cover a wide variety
of stories, all related to the RIGHT to Keep And Bear Arms. KABA
is putting out a call to all gun owners to help round up every
piece of information gun rights activists need in one central
location on the web. "And these days, if you're a gun owner and
aren't helping us in the fight to stop the assault against us,
you owe it to yourself and your country to get busy."

When asked why he and his organization are doing so much work for
the cause of freedom, Shamaya says, "Somebody sure has to!
Oath-breaking politicians temporarily have the run of our
country, and we peaceable gun owners are through being demonized.
83,000,000 of us didn't shoot anybody today or ever. The time to
get the TRUTH out to the masses of sleeping gun owners is at
hand. It's time to unify."

Along with up-to-date information, KeepAndBearArms.com also has
auto-emailers that allow gun owners to write a single letter and
send it to every legislator in their state. They offer other
useful resources including free auctions and classifieds and
several other features not yet seen on a gun- related web site.
And they aren't all work and no fun: they also have a staff
cartoonist whose work is set up as postcards you can email to
friends, foes, or the unenlightened. "The key to bringing new
people into actively defending liberty is education," says Mr.
Shamaya. "Words we have aplenty. But those pictures often say
more than any article you'll ever read. Many of the other
features are simply services. We want gun owners to have a home
on the internet. Sooner or later, every gun owner on the web is
going to come see us, and when they give us a chance, they'll
stay for good."

KABA also offers free email that delivers
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Daily Shots that include everything
from a daily activist letter and an article of the day to
humorous jokes and pictures. They even have a whole section of
their site devoted entirely to women.

When asked why a section for women, KABA's Director continues,
"Women understand women. This nation if filled with American
women who reserve their God-given, natural right to self-defense.
Providing a forum where women can talk to women gets us men out
of the way so they can help other women wake up to the fact that
when confronted with an armed criminal, a 'law' is not going to
help you one bit."

KABA just opened their internet doors on June 1st, but the
project has been in development since October through both email
news and their .org web site. KABA's webmaster, Robert Proctor,
is an award-winning web designer who has built over 600
professional web sites himself and works with a team of people
who are good at what they do. Their new, top-of-the-line server
is nearly ready for installation, and several additional features
of the site not currently on display will be introduced in the
next 45 days, including free web space,