[CTRL] Forgotten aspect of slavery
COMPLICITY 101 BY DENNIS RAITT Although the "politically correct" academia, the NAACP and its Hate-the- South media allies continue their quest to revise and sanitize Southern history, it is refreshing to find an individual like Larry Koger. Mr. Koger holds an M.A. in history from Howard University where he researched his book: Black Slaveowners, Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860. "Most Americans, black and white, believe that slavery was a system exclusively maintained by whites to exploit black people. But in fact black Americans played a role in the annals of the peculiar institution as slave masters. Many blacks of the antebellum period believed that slavery and the exploitation of their own people was a viable economic system for profit. In Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830. Many black masters were large planters who owned scores of slaves and planted large quantities of cotton, rice, and cane sugar. Not all black masters were planters, many were craftsmen and artisans. The institution of black slave owning was widespread, stretching as far north as New York and as far south as Florida, extending westward into Kentucky, Mississippi, Louisiana and Missouri. Many black masters were former slaves, many being emancipated for meritorious military duty, faithful service, saving a life, and other such reasons. Basically stated, they arose from slavery to freedom to slaveowner. Once freed, they obtained slaves through inheritance or purchase, including those of their immediate families. Free blacks not only used slave labor to work in farming, but also purchased slaves to work in their businesses as skilled and unskilled laborers. Others hired out their slaves to non-slaveowners and appropriated the proceeds to help themselves. The attitudes and actions of black masters were much the same as white slaveowners. From the U.S. census, just around Charleston, South Carolina, the percentage of free black slaveowners increased from 25% in 1830 to 92% in 1860. Just between 1800 and 1820, the number of black masters increased by 411%. Another census showed an increase and then a decline in the percentage of female black slaveowners from 71% in 1820 to 58% in 1864. Perhaps the most striking fact about the statistics complied from the federal census is that 42% of the slaves held by free blacks were females between the ages of 10 and 54. In short, the economic benefits of slavery stimulated ex-slaves to buy slaves to be utilized as laborers or hired out. In a society where slavery was an accepted form of labor, not the racism blamed today, it was not surprising that former slaves exploited the vast reservoir of slave labor. They viewed slavery as a viable and legitimate institution which could be used for investment purposes in producing more wealth. Like the white man, black masters had to deal with all types of disciplinary problems which required the need to place advertisements in local newspapers for the return of their runaway slaves, placing disobedient slaves in the city jail or workhouse, flogging, and sale on the auction block. Life of the slaves under black ownership was not much different from the life of slaves held by white planters. In either case, the slaves usually worked from 8 to 10 hours a day, with Sundays and customary holidays off. Although the black planters did not pay their slaves, they provided food, clothing, medical care and shelter as did the whites. Also the mandatory slave tax was paid yearly. In the antebellum south, a network of personal relationships developed between the black elite and the whites. Often the face-to-face, person-to-person contacts permitted Southern whites to see each other as men and women. Free blacks not only attended church with whites but often lived a few doors down. Many of the well-to-do free blacks owned homes, plantations and slaves. They made legal contracts and filed lawsuits to protect their property. As the antislavery movement in the 1850s intensified, many black slaveowners began to doubt the continued existence of slavery. Rather than bequeath the slaves to their children, they began to liquidate their human chattel and gave the proceeds from the sales to their beloved ones. By 1863, as the War for Southern Independence began to worsen, it was becoming apparent that it was only a matter of time before their valuable slave property would be freed. By this time it was hard if not impossible to find a willing buyer. Thus after the war, like their white counterparts, the newly freed slaves would work the land, not for wages, but for food, shelter and clothing. In essence the only major difference between the antebellum arrangements and the Reconstruction contracts was the distinction between forced labor and a quasi-voluntary system which developed after slavery." So the next time the NAACP and the leftist-media
Re: [CTRL] Get ready . . . for a wild ride . . .
Might I say that I concur. Things are definitely heating up in many areas, not the least of which is right here at home on CTRL. There is finally some momentum that I see for real change to happen in the wider world. As for agendas, everyone has them, and everyone has their own pet theories they try to peddle. I am among that number myself. I try to be objective but my prejudices as to source and speculation will show to any who read my posts regularly. BUT I do try to be up front about it at least, and dismiss no one or no information out of hand. I definitely try to be circumspect in how I handle people and information presented here. Kris, I do hope that you will be able to give us some of the best "dope" you can on the symposium this weekend, I am anxious to hear what some of the heavyweights you have in attendance have to contribute on the subject. On Tue, 06 June 2000, Kris Millegan wrote: Howdy all, The level of propaganda and dis/mis is rising. The "psychological sets" are thick. And this list is all ready seeing the effects of this campaign. As to whether some listees are actual "agents" make no difference as the affectation is easily spread by ignorance, prejudice and self-aggrandizement. But as the "passion-play" of our staged elections works its course, I suspect all levers will be put inti play -- as the power of the internet and knowledge and understanding undermine the "boys" ability to play their "games." All the bullets will be pumped into our collective gut, sides to be hardened and moved closer and closer towards state/economic-control. Expect this list and "life in the mainstream" to be journey through provocateurs and much bullcrap. Our list cohesion and various views upon subjects will by assaulted by folks trying to bring some "orthodoxy" to our anarchy of understanding. We are all adults, and except for ctrl's disclaimer topics, I am not going to start chosing one viewpoint or posters over others. Do let us keep it civil, please. After the CIA-Drugs Symposium this weekend I will be able to begin posting some more excerpts. Om K Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
SkeptiNews 000606b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/14_05_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No deities were castigated to produce this bulletin. We didn't dare... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Lunar Hitchhiker's Guide: http://www.shallowsky.com/moon/hitchhiker.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # STONEHENGE OR BUST! UFOs north of Reno, Nevada? How can we tell? Geologic hoodoos; crustal anomalies; energy vampires? Strange rock constructions; monolith; intense magnetism. No UFO/alien/conspiracy/Sasquatch activity seen. Opium den; Alaska Cedar grove in Oregon; Sasquatch spoor! Protosimi- ans reptoids; multinational'shroomers; BioWar! 'Shroomers; crop circles; Stonehenge; Rajneeshpuram. Time travel takes too long; motorcycles mind- control. Anomalous clouds; unnatural speed; I CAN'T STAND IT! Alien dung- heaps! Accosted by govt agent! Escaped! Weather- mind-control; feline violence! Surveillance; sabotage; The Perfection Game. Terraces of ancient civilizations or alien manifestations? Postmodernism; US Navy Centroid Facility; icy lava caves. Fractional gospel missions? Oregon Vortex, House of Mystery. Yeti urine? Surveillance impeded? Wasted meat? Area 101; ETs? PRELIMINARY DRAFT: http://www.sonic.net/~ric/adventure/may2k/may2k2.htm : Have you overturned/replicated/approached any ancient megaliths lately? Is your psychic energy constantly drained by vampires/aliens/agents/scientists/ me? What do you do with mushrooms? What do mushrooms do with you? How often? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Meteorite find excites scientists. OTTAWA Traces of the chemical building blocks of the solar system -and of humanity itself - may well be preserved inside hundreds of pieces of a rare meteorite recovered recently from the ice surface of a Yukon lake. http://alienzoo.com/news/y/26020004.cfm # Meteorite bits recovered: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/y/26010005.cfm @ Life On The Sun? Before you dismiss this as complete rubbish, consider one fundamental truth: life is, in essence, a manifestation of negentropy. http://www.erasmatazz.com/library/Miscellania/Life%20and%20Negentroy.html # Dinosaur theory gets big blast;Milwaukee scientists point to site as proof asteroid wiped out creatures: http://alienzoo.com/news/n/26020003.cfm : Have you discovered/originated/eliminated any fertile environments lately? D'ya prefer entropy, negentropy, allotropy, eigentropy? Would'ya rather live in/or/under/above Earth, Sol, Luna, Mars, Zeta Reticula, Oz, Barsoom, Hades? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BIBLE PREDICTS STORMIEST SUMMER IN HISTORY! TULSA, OK -- This summer will be the stormiest in the history of the world,with hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, meteorites and grapefruit-size hail bringing death and despair to millions -- and it's all foretold in the Bible, theologians say! Jehovah wants to kill us all: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1938.html @ It's your chance to date Jesus! http://www.jesus.com/ Ok, maybe He's not really Jesus, but he does have "a lean swimmer's body and a six-pack". You can even win a chance to shower with Him! http://jesus.com/shower/ He even provides a Frequently Asked Questions http://www.jesus.com/faq.html document, which answers the immortal question, "Do you know that you are going to go to Hell?" http://www.jesus.com/faq.html#11 For more on your salvation etc, see http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Religion/ - or else. : Have you stormed/dated/fucked/cleansed any deities lately? Do they mean to do us harm/good/nothing/anything? Who are your favorite deities? Have they done anything notable to/for you? Do they answer Frequently Asked Questions? @ DOES THE ANTI-CHRIST LIKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES? Do you? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/apocult.html#chocchip _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Man Admits To Sending Ghosts To Attack Girls. NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) -- A businessman has confessed to sending ghosts to attack schoolgirls in eastern Kenya. The unnamed businessman was arrested over the weekend after the pupils of Itokela Girls Secondary School marched to the district commissioner's office to protest against an invasion of ghosts at the school. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000605/12/odd-kenya-ghosts # UFO BLASTS RUSSIAN JET OUT OF THE SKY! MOSCOW -- A saucer-shaped UFO blasted a MiG-29 out of the sky with a laser ray on April 8 in one of the most terrifying close encounters ever! Dramatic photographs clearly show the sophisticated jet approaching the starship after it appeared unannoun- ced in Russian airspace. http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1939.html : Would you rather be attacked by ghosts, girls, UFOs, MiGs, Republicans/ Reptilioids, robots,
Re: [CTRL] UFOs and the Military
On Tue, 06 June 2000, DIG alfred webre wrote: From Armageddon or New Age: - Original Message - From: "James A Gilliland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: UFOs and the Military There is a military mindset concerning the subject of UFOs which no longer serves the interest of national security or the people. It is time to lay this mindset to rest. For centuries, we have taken our finest minds and employed them within the military industry, directing them to create the most powerful weapons of mass destruction and the most virulent biologicals possible. Under the leadership of the military industry, we are evolving into one of the most deadly civilizations known to man. We already have the destructive potential to destroy all life on the planet and are now playing with technologies that have the potential to create a black hole, destroying not only the Earth, but all life up to 50,000 light years away.. Now what does this have to do with national security? Is this where we want to go as a civilization? What if one of their little experiments creates a cascade effect; a little virus or bacteria escapes the lab? The mind set is "we must have military superiority over everyone and everything". If we cannot have superiority, dominance and complete control we must must destroy it. One of the problems with this mindset is our weapons of mass destruction and biologicals seem to mysteriously fall into the hands of the so called enemy when enough money is transferred to the right people.. This military mindset is the one we have allowed to engage off world visitors. Off world visitors with interstellar and interdimensional capabilities that have the weaponry to turn this planet into a cinder if so desired. Now don't you feel real secure knowing our government is shooting at them with back-engineered late model technology? Luckily our off world visitors are benevolent, understand primitive cultures and for the most part, take the high road staying out of reach. Let us assume for a moment that there really ARE aliens here. What kind of evidence is there that they have the power to destroy our Earth to a cinder, that we are shooting at them with back engineered weaponry, and that they are good or benevolent in any way? Please enlighten us all with this profundity. "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Shipboard Abortions Planned For 3rd World Women
Top News Headlines June 6, 2000 -- 8:56 PM Shipboard Abortions Planned For Third World Women AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CNSNews) -- Pregnant women in mostly Third World nations where abortions are illegal will be offered abortions onboard a ship sailing outside those countries' territorial waters, if a Dutch doctor has her way. Dr. Rebecca Gomperts, founder of a group called Women on Waves, has announced her intention to outfit and sail a 50-meter ship around the world to offer abortions to women. Women will be picked up in ports, and taken to international waters where the abortions will be carried out in a floating clinic called Sea Change. While in harbor, the ship would also provide contraceptives and workshops, and train local doctors in giving abortions, according to information on the organization's Website. Its staff would also seek to influence the authorities in the target countries to adopt Dutch policies. "Due to sexual education, accessibility of contraception and legal abortion, our country has the world's lowest abortion rate," Gomperts is quoted as saying. Gomperts is the former ship's doctor on the Rainbow Warrior, a vessel belonging to the environmental activist organization Greenpeace. While sailing on the ship she learned of problems relating to abortions in South America. She said she was shocked to learn about the large numbers of women who die each year during or after abortions. "Of the 53 million abortions done annually worldwide, 20 million are illegal and unsafe, with the result that at least 70,000 women die each year unnecessarily." Having witnessed "the impact that Greenpeace's methods can have" Gomperts said she realized similar methods could be used to provide abortions in international waters. Explaining how the envisaged program would work, she said, "Women organizations in the concerned countries will have to show the pregnant woman the way to the harbor where the abortion boat is moored." The ship would then sail out of territorial waters - usually about 12 miles offshore - where the abortions would be carried out. Gomperts told a Dutch newspaper, NRC Handelsblad, that if the government of any particular country objected to the activity and ordered the ship to leave the quayside, "small motor boats will bring our clients to the abortion boat on open sea. There we can go to work." Asked by the paper about expected opposition from pro-life groups, she said: "I don't care much about them either. I don't have moral problems with abortion; it is assistance, that's it. A fetus that can't survive on it's own outside the mother's womb is in my view not a child." In response to queries sent to her, Gomperts said Friday public response to the plan had been mostly positive, "to some extent due to the fact that there is only a very limited anti-choice movement in the Netherlands." Recently, however, "the pace of the occasional anti-choice reaction has begun to pick up, almost all of which has come, symptomatically, from the United States." That reaction includes a statement from the president of the American Life League, Judie Brown, who called the group "pirate abortionists." Brown said in a statement that Women on Waves would be "circumventing the sovereign rights of nations by carrying women offshore to kill their children. "The human rights of poor women of color, who want and need basic health care, are being plundered. The international community should be outraged ..." Brown also questioned the possibility of a "safe abortion" being carried out at sea. "These women may literally end up being shark bait, along with the mortal remains of their babies. This is an outrage of the highest order which must be stopped." Gomperts clearly expects opposition in some ports. "If we keep the time and date of departure secret to the public, we can hopefully prevent any major public intervention. "In response to the potential for violent acts, we realize that we will have to be very vigilant - and have therefore included security as a significant item in the ship's budget." Doctors and patients would also be provided with bullet-proof vests. Gomperts is aware of the peculiar risks ships carry. The Rainbow Warrior was destroyed ten years ago while in harbor in New Zealand. French agents bombed the ship because Greenpeace was protesting and complicating French nuclear tests in the South Pacific. Woman on Waves hopes the project will be up and running as soon as sufficient funding has been obtained. The group needs around $1 million to buy and outfit the ship, which will be large enough to provide accommodation for five crew and 25 patients, and some $500,000 a year to operate it. She told NRC Handelsblad: "If we perform one hundred abortions each week during ten months per year, each intervention will cost only one hundred dollar to make the project self-supporting. If we can get enough donations we can do the interventions without charge. The enterprise will be on a
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense. I have no qualms at all about accepting that it is POSSIBLE that there are beings, that are normally incorpreal to us, and cannot be sensed under normal circumstances, who occupy other dimensions which are physically coterminus with the space we occupy now. As such I believe it is possible that there are extradimensional beings. As for where they would come from; they could be the product of their own evolutionary path, and perhaps the space they occupy in their dimension is unique in ways that ours is that allowed life to develop there as well. They could be spiritual, or more evolved beings who have voluntarily removed themselves from our dimension ( or have been involuntarily removed to a prison dimension by more powerful forces or beings). Sometimes under certain conditions they may be percieved or interact with us. Or they may have technology, or we may have technology that can open gateways between the dimensions which would allow interaction of various kinds. This is all speculation mind you. What their purpose is, I cannot say except it would certainly help to know their exact nature before one could postulate what it is they are doing and their motivation for doing it. I would like to hear a better definition of the ULTRA in ultraterrestrial before speculating further on that term though. On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: More to come! Yeah. Let's kick this one around for a while. But let's keep speculation and facts seperate and labeled. Let's also keep in mind that there needs be no exclusionary hypothesis. There could be military intelligence behind some abductions and ETs behind others (a la "Jose Chung") and yet more could be the work of the "Ultraterrestrials." So, if there ARE "ultraterrestrials," where could they could have come from? How far must we revise our concept of physics to account for their reported activities? What might their plans and motives be? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
See my comments inserted below. On Tue, 06 June 2000, "Samantha L." wrote: In a message dated 6/6/00 7:35:15 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What makes me believe there are genuine ET contacts occurring (with or without black op intrusion as well) is the remarkable spiritual awakenings so many are having. As subjective is this is, I just don't believe that evil intentions can awaken deep spiritual truths. But that has no bearing on whether these entities are physical beings from another planet. Huh? First, I said extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional. If not ED or ET then the alternative would be that covert military ops are undertaking disinformation campaigns which have the purpose or the side-effect of causing spiritual awakening. That would be rather like my dog preparing a a fine gourmet meal. What an intriguing idea. See my earlier post for a comment on this particular question. Why do you presume that physical beings from another planet would be 'good' in the moral sense? Why would ETs magically be able to 'awaken deep spiritual truths'? Does coming from another planet magically bestow divinity? I personally believe that yes, beings from elsewhere in the universe visiting here would be, by definition, moral and enlightened beings - that there is a fail-safe-clause in the ordered universe that allows only beings of a certain spiritual level to achieve certain technologies. If one thinks of imagination as having a direct correlation to inventiveness, then this is not so far-fetched. There are pathways of thinking in the creative sense which are closed to darker minds. There simply is not the access to a great expanse of ideas in psychologically unhealthy and repressed beings. Or that lesser beings, of a barbaric nature, might achieve some technologies but be prevented from using them outside their zone. I postulate that this is indeed an organized universe with rules, regulations and heirarchies, and no, I have no evidence for such.. So it wouldn't be that divinity is magically bestowed, but that to be free to roam the universe, a civilization would have to achieve a certain level of enlightenment first in order that harm might not spread. I must admit that your idea has a certain something to it that makes me wonder, but then again it is just a theory you have. There really is no justification for the idea, though it would be great if we could be assured that only good and kind moral beings would come to us. If 'contact' is occurring, it could just as likely be with extra-dimensional beings that have been here all along, and aren't from outerspace. And these beings could just as easily be 'evil', and conning the easily duped into believing that they are 'good' If they are extra-dimensional, how logical is it to postulate that they may have been here all along, when we don't even understand the nature of extra-dimensions? Where is the "here" in the "extra-dimensional beings that have been here all along? Cleveland? They could be evil, duping people into believing in their goodness. They could be evil and accidentally causing spiritual awakening. I don't think it's very likely. Is there some evidence for the presumption that if extra-dimensional beings exist that they are all evil? Nothing says they all have to be evil, but nothing says they all have to be good either. If there are beings of an extradimensional nature around there is no reason to presume that they haven't been here for a long time, at least as long as we have. As for "where are they", they could be all around you and even occupying the same space as you do, only non-percievable (except under certain circumstances perhaps), and non-experiential (at least normally), because they occupy a different dimensional realm within the same space as we occupy in our "third" dimensional realm. It would be more plausible to presume that such entities if they exist, are in fact neutral or indifferent to us in a moral sense, and any interaction they have would be for their own interests and they would be oblivious to us or our desires, fears, etc., rather than that they are moral in any sense that we understand, whether good or evil. That seems logical to me, but hey, that's just me. There is a difference in depth between an mc experience and a spiritual one - the flavors and tones are distinct - though sometimes off only by a few degrees. This is a subjective analysis, and is not evidence. Well wonders never cease. You figured that out all by yourself? Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths,
[CTRL] Justice Department was ignoring reliable evidence
Fund-Raising Probe Sparks Debate By Pete Yost Associated Press Writer Tuesday, June 6, 2000; 3:54 p.m. EDT WASHINGTON In a memo kept secret for 212 years, FBI Director Louis Freeh warned that the Justice Department was ignoring "reliable evidence" that conflicted with Al Gore's accounts of his fund-raising activities. Freeh sent the November 1997 memo, written by staff at his request, to Attorney General Janet Reno to urge appointment of an independent counsel to investigate Democratic fund raising. "In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president was a very active, sophisticated fund-raiser who knew exactly what he was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given undue weight," the Freeh memo said. It preceded a better-known, and more scrutinized, memo by the chief prosecutor in the case, Charles LaBella, who urged the same action and also accused his Justice Department superiors of contorting their investigation to avoid triggering an independent counsel. The memos were released by a House committee today as Republicans in both chambers of Congress examined why a special prosecutor was never appointed. "Can you blame the American people or many in Congress for being cynical?" House Government Reform Committee chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., asked after reading from the memos. The FBI director said the Justice Department's preoccupation with bit players should be replaced by a top-down investigation starting with President Clinton and a "core group" of aides under the theory that "most of the alleged campaign abuses flowed directly or indirectly from the all-out efforts by the White House and DNC (Democratic National Committee) to raise money." Freeh's memo focused in part on fund-raising phone calls Gore made from his government office. The vice president denied that he intended to raise "hard money," which is regulated by federal laws prohibiting solicitations on federal property. The director's memo suggested the Justice Department was "relying almost exclusively on the vice president's own statements to draw inferences favorable to him even where those statement are contradicted by other reliable evidence." "If the attorney general relied primarily" on Gore's "statements to end this investigation, she would be inviting intense and justified criticism," the memo said. In a memo responding to that allegation, Lee Radek, the chief of the department's public integrity section who dealt with independent counsel issues, said the Justice Department didn't rely solely on Gore's word. The conclusion that Gore's phone calls were to solicit "soft money," outside the scope of the law, was based on "hundreds of interviews with those who participated in the calls, and the examination of scores of documents," Radek wrote in a memo also released today. And the law in question is seldom prosecuted, he said. In his own 94-page memo, prosecutor LaBella complained that his Justice Department superiors were "intellectually dishonest" and practiced "gamesmanship" to avoid an independent counsel investigation of President Clinton's and Gore's 1996 fund raising. Radek called those allegations "preposterous." "The authors' attribution of bad faith to those of us who have disagreed with them on various issues is nothing short of shocking," Radek wrote. LaBella's memo also said the re-election campaign "was so corrupted by bloated fund raising and questionable 'contributions' that the system became a caricature of itself." He wrote the memo on July 16, 1998, as he was preparing to leave as head of the campaign fund-raising task force. Word of LaBella's memo leaked to the media a week after he wrote it, but Reno resisted demands from congressional Republicans to release it until recently, saying investigative documents should be kept confidential. LaBella and Freeh argued that the Justice Department had failed to adequately investigate allegations by the government-reform group Common Cause that Clinton controlled a Democratic Party advertising campaign and used it illegally to support his re-election. Those "arguably are the most serious" allegations," Freeh's memo said. LaBella wrote that the department's handling of the Common Cause allegations "has been marked by gamesmanship rather than an evenhanded analysis." He said Justice officials were "hostile" to the idea of seeking an independent counsel and "had to find a theory upon which we could avoid conducting an investigation." Radek responded that Reno addressed the Common Cause issue "squarely" and decided the law wasn't broken. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: What does it show us? That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in fact may be one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is carried out in the first place On the other hand, it is not at all uncommon for people who have been througha psychologically traumatic experience to process it as a life changing event. I myself had a a couple near death experiences at an impressionable age and I'm a totally different person today than I would have been had they not happened. It didn't make me spiritual, but it sure did make me philosophical. Get shot, crash a bike, survive cancer, watch a friend die, lose your house to fire, get married, get divorced, have a kid, get arrested. Any of these things have the potential to turn a person spiritual. I've seen it happen. I dare say that if I honestly thought I'd been abducted by aliens I'd be a different guy later no matter what actually happened in real life. So would you. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Frightening Statistics
·According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks. These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960's, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil rights movement.Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II.All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.
[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?_Stringing_the_Devil=92s_Hatband?=
From: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/vinson5.html Stringing the Devils Hatband by Judith Vinson "It was the wire that killed them, you know?" she said. She repeated it over and over for a number of years. The answer was no, they didnt know, but they didnt say so. Because of her eighty-six years and the trauma shed suffered, no one asked her to elaborate. Once called a "hostage" when she left Mt. Carmel, she nevertheless had her Bible taken from her. It was replaced with an ill-fitting orange suit and handcuffs. Her ankles were chained together before she was paraded before the cameras on her way to jail. She was frail, blind in one eye, and almost blind in the other, but along with another elderly woman, charged with murder. A rabid effort to punish someone, anyone at all, who came out. The wire that haunted her later, after the fire, seemed the least of her problems at the time. It was just one more detail among many that would never be known about the place that went up in flames on April 19, 1993. Theres a lot of wire in Texas, so much that it isnt often given much thought, although some collect antique, rusty samples and display them on rustic boards to show the progressive ingenuity of the invention that really won the West. It kept cattle in and rustlers out, but not until recently, was it known how macabre it might be, when it was used for some dance of death on a Texas prairie. Robert Frosts "good fences make good neighbors" would once have been a puzzling, if idealistic, notion. Without the stone to build the beautiful dry-wall Frost was fond of erecting, or a veritable forest of bois de arc for the tough and unyielding fence-rows that once defined fields of the Kansas prairie, the first who settled here on the Grande Prairie seized on the newest of inventions barbed wire. A Godsend embraced by the sodbusters that knew they would first have to secure the land if they would claim and civilize Texas. Needed by those with a single milk cow, it was hated by the cowmen, who wanted to keep Texas an open range for vast herds of cattle. It was the cause of more bloodshed than all the battles ever fought on Texas soil. In the end, the sodbusters prevailed. Having taken a dim view of Rousseaus notion that there was no such thing as private property just fencing a piece of unowned real estate and convincing others one owned it they took up the challenge with a vengeance. Fleeing the destruction of Reconstruction, they came to Texas from all over. There were hill people from Kentucky and Tennessee. Quarrelsome, Bible thumping, and ill suited to live in the midst of carpetbaggers and, at length, maybe each other. There was a German Catholic pacifist from the Mid-West with little stomach for punishing the vanquished, and genteel and aristocratic Southerners from the Deep South, with their Negroes and fancy, carved chests, somehow, still in tow. They were a strange lot if ever there was one for making a new beginning together, but they rubbed elbows, quarreled, then made up long enough to burn a goodly number of courthouses containing the land titles of any number of carpetbaggers. Sometimes they killed each other, but in the end the mingled and married and multiplied to civilize a wilderness. And all with the aid of the loved and hated barbed wire the cowmen called "the Devils hatband." Their children and grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren would go on to the local cow colleges. Still steeped in a rural work ethic and living in a big land that left little time for contemplating ones navel, or ratiocinating about the "meaning of life," They would make their granddaddies proud by writing "Sartre is a Fartre" on university bathroom walls, graffiti left by administrators for years, which, no doubt, instructed any number of lower classmen in the prevailing wisdom of their betters. They had little time for philosophical works, embracing, instead, novels such as Richard Adams, Watership Down, an allegory about freedom, ethics, and human nature that reminded them of long ago places. The lesson of the "warren of the shinning wire" was not lost on them. It was a place to be feared by both rational men and reasoning rabbits, a place of confinement where they could trade freedom for some erstwhile peace and plenty right up until the powers that be got around to popping them into a pot. Tender Berkshire rabbits for a neo-Brunswick stew. Fiver, the lupine sooth-sayer of Adams epic knew and squealed on such a place. "Oh, no, cant you see, Hazel!" He said. "The field is full of blood." They had places to avoid after coming from bloody places of their own. Reason failed them once and they found themselves living behind yet another kind of wire in Phu Bai, Fire Base Birmingham, and thousands of other such in-country compounds. They were places one might live or die behind a kind of wire named, strangely enough, after a beautiful Italian musical instrument. It was outfitted with
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
tenebroust, I've always believed several layers of things are going on at once. I really haven't modulated my position at all. I am personally convinced there is something extra-dimensional and/or extra-terrestrial going on, and that the military is pulling tricks out of their hat as well. But why I'm convinced of these things is purely subjective. I do agree we should look at the mundane sources as well as the alternatives. As for attempts at spiritual manipulation, I can see it as it pertains to the UFO phenomenon as well as to other phenomenon like channeling, remote viewing, psychic phenomenon and pseudo-religious phenomenon. I think there are ways of distinguishing the genuine from the pseudo, but these ways are purely subjective and not prone to evidence. As for Strieber, I've long perceived there was more to his experiences than ED or ET. I believe he is subjected to both ED/ET and MILAB simulataeously. It will be interesting to see what he ends up believing when he sorts through his disturbing new memories. I give him a lot of credit for being open about the very memories that would seem to discredit his previous subjective conclusions (though admittedly he's always only specualted on the nature of experiences.) Samantha In a message dated 6/6/00 10:37:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Samantha, I am glad to see that you have modulated your position as previously presented here, and allow for alternative explanations. It is also good that you question Streiber et al, because there is some question as to Streiber's affiliations etc. These experiences could be real, or not, as regards REAL aliens. BUT it is aknowledged by most people, here at least, that the military DOES DO such things. SO, it would behoove us to look at the known first before we go off in search of less mundane sources for these events. Would you agree? As to your spiritual comments as circumstantial validity for TRUE alien encounters I would direct you to look at the case that Vallee investigated, involving a Frenchman supposedly abducted by aliens and missing for days. Sources in the French military told him it was a fake abduction run by their military in order to study psychological and psychosocial phenomenon. It was bogus. Now, as it relates to this spiritual validity, one of the things the French were desirous to look into was the formation of cults around supposed alien spiritual enlightenment. One of the people who knew the abducted person later went on to start a cult based upon what was told him by the abducted about the spiritual message of the "aliens". This was all bogus. What does it show us? That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in fact may be one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is carried out in the first place. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:11:54 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR Greetings! We are forwarding you the Open Letter on Environmental War on its 1st Anniversary since May, 1999. Today, the issue of the destruction to the biosphere brought on by environmental war seems more relevant and immediate than ever. If you would like to see this message sent simultaneously to the signatory nations of the 1977 UN Treaty against Environmental Modification on October 24, 2000, the anniversary of the United Nations, please send signatures and message of support to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! Vladimir Levchenko, Dr.Sci. Geri DeStefano, PhD Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd === INFOTERRA: OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR http://www.ee/lists/infoterra/1999/04/0096.html Sat, 01 May 1999 16:14:31 +0300 EcoNews, Vancouver, BC, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) EcoNews/ENWL, St.Petersburg, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR We are concerned about the development of environmental weapons and the impact of this insidious technology upon the Earth and its inhabitants. Already the environmental impacts of NATO bombing have included increased radiation, PCB and toxic contamination of the environment. These impacts are in contravention of international law standards for protection of the environment. A new generation of environmental weapons (see links below) would create even more deadly destruction of the environment. The 1977 UN Treaty against Environmental Modification and other standards prohibit these. These UN treaties and conventions are not being enforced to stop environmental war. The treaties were signed by all military nations, who continue to recklessly try and use Sacred ecological forces as instruments of war. We call you to act against the further development of these technologies. We ask you to forward this Open Letter widely, and to adopt a strong Agenda against environmental war. A full text of the Open Letter is accessible at http://www.ecologynews.com If you would like to sign this letter, please do so and e-mail it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please forward a copy of your letter to someone else. If you receive it but do not want to sign, please simply e-mail us the Open Letter with existing signatures. Please do not let the letter die. The Open Letter with gathered signatures will be forwarded every calendar quarter to (1) United Nations Environment Programme for their concern on environmental impacts of war (2) United Nations Secretary General - responsible for enforcement of the 1977 Treaty against Environmental Modification, (3) Signatory countries to the 1977 United Nations Treaty against Environmental Modification, (4) Governments participating in the Balkans conflict, (5) Concerned environmental organizations. Please sign the Open Letter below. For information, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] = USEFUL LINKS: Full Text of Open Letter http://www.universebooks.com Dangers of Environmental War http://www.globalpsychics.com/lp/Prophecy/emp.htm http://www.globalpsychics.com/lp/Insights/HAARP_Project.htm Environmental Impacts of War http://www.islandpress.org/eco-compass/war/war.html Electromagnetic pulse (emp) World Seismicity http://www.m-m.org/jz/prophecyd.html The 1977 UN CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES is at: http://www.acda.gov/treaties/environ1.htm We have now the following signatures to this Open Letter. Please add yours, and email to friends and associates. with a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Geri DeStefano, PhD, Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd, Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Stephanie Selig, Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Vladimir Levchenko, Dr.Sci., St.Petersburg, Russia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Lev A. Fedorov, Professor, Moscow, Russia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 6. Desie A. Poston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (From webtv.net!WWBUFallo Tue May 4 00:38:33 MSD 1999) 7. Dr. Juan P. Ruiz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ecology Department, Autonoma University, Madrid 28049, Spain Tel. -- 3491 3978003, Fax -- 3491 3978001 8. "Douglas \"Commander\" Whiting" [EMAIL PROTECTED] to respond to douglas whiting, use [EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9. Elena Polagaeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10. Sylvie PERROTEY - Dr Sci. - Lyon (France) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11. Dmitri S. Rybakov, PhD, Petrozavodsk, Russia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12. Boris I.Vdovin, Urbanism Institute, St.Petersburg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13. Sally J. Cruz, Los Angeles, CA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 14. Dr. Shanti Devi. University of Hawaii West Hawaii. PO Box 2059, Kealakekau, Hawaii 96750. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15. Roberta Wise, Administrative Assistant U. C. Berkeley Program in Genetic Counseling 570 University Hall
[CTRL] California First Hispanic State?
From: http://64.29.200.227/articles/?a=2000/6/5/154335 Mexican Reconquista: Leader Says California Will Be First 'Hispanic' State Stephan Archer Wednesday, June 7, 2000 "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important a very important part of this." This statement wasnt made in secrecy behind closed doors. It wasnt said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke it in Chicago on July 23, 1997. Speaking before the National Council of La Raza, Zedillo went on to say, "For this reason, my government proposed a constitutional amendment to allow any Mexican with the right and the desire to acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to first give up his or her Mexican nationality." This amendment is significant for more than just the obvious reason. It is nearly impossible to obtain Mexican citizenship unless you can prove you are Mexican or are of Mexican descent. If you are neither, you must prove that you have completely adopted Mexican culture and lifestyle. Yet a Mexican citizen can, in essence, acquire another nationality and remain a Mexican. Is this a double standard? Glenn Spencer, president of Voice of Citizens Together and radio talk show host of American Patrol Report, thinks so. But he thinks theres something more sinister to the Mexican presidents decree than one might think. "This is an invasion of the United States in a very classic way with all of the classic objectives of an invasion without using bullets," Spencer said. Spencer added he believed Mexico is allowing this so that those people with dual citizenship may vote in the interest of Mexico in the United States. The ultimate goal of this invasion, Spencer contends, is to reclaim the American Southwest an area including California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas. Known as Aztlan by Hispanic activists, these states make up what used to be Mexican territory before treaties and wars gave the land to the United States. Some Hispanic activists deny that there is any sort of organized effort to take over these states and reclaim it for Mexico. However, Jose Pescador Osuna, who was once the Mexican consul general in Los Angeles, has been quoted on the record as saying, "Even though Im saying this part serious and part joking, I believe we are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California." "La Reconquista" means "the reconquest" and refers to the taking over of the U.S. Southwest. Osuna now is an agent of the Mexican government and works for migration in Mexico City. Even though these statements have been made on American soil, Mario Obledo of the California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations said the "radical" Aztlan movement died in the 1960s. Obledo, a resident of Sacramento, Calif., explained that his organization tries to secure the civil rights of Mexican-Americans "and others similarly situated." Although claiming a profound faith in America, hes also proud of the fact that the majority of Californians in the next few years will be Hispanic. "California is going to be a Hispanic state," Obledo said. "Anyone who doesnt like it should leave." Obledo further added: "Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years. Its a fact of life. Thats all. All of those propositions 187, 209, and whatever is a backlash due to the insecurities of the majority population. Thats all. But all those measures are going to be reversed one of these days." Proposition 187 was the California initiative supported by a majority of Californians that denied taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens. Proposition 209 was another initiative supported by a majority of Californians that banned affirmative action, that is, prohibited preferential treatment in the work place and public schools and universities. Speaking at a Latino gathering in response to Proposition 187s passage in 1995, Art Torres, the chairman of the California Democratic Party, said: "Power is not given to you. You have to take it. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America in California." But if Mexico is to reclaim the U.S. Southwest, how will it be done? Spencer believes that with the increasing unrest along the U.S.-Mexican border, the U.S. Border Patrol will eventually become overwhelmed, requiring the U.S. Army to take action. With increasing unrest and military presence all along the border, the current border will be erased and a new border zone stretching 150 miles from the current border into the United States will be put in place. Although this may sound impossible, President Clinton has already issued an executive order that could put such a border zone in place. Executive Order 13122, signed by the president May 25, 1999, established an Interagency Task Force on the Economic Development of
[CTRL] [Reality_Pump] Congressman Fears Police State
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Reality_Pump] Congressman Fears Police State Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:45 AM Congressman Fears Police State, Says Waco Expert May Have [been] Murdered Stephan Archer (http://www.newamax.com) Tuesday, May 30, 2000 Democratic Rep. James A. Traficant says America is a virtual police state, and he worries that a leading forensic expert hired by Congress to investigate Waco may have been murdered. Late in April of this year NewsMax.com first broke nationally the story about the suspicious death of Carlos Ghigliotti. Ghigliotti was an expert FLIR (Forward-Looking InfraRed) videotape analyst hired by the House Government Reform Committee to analyze the flashes on infrared film taken by the FBI during its April 1993 Waco assault. Ghigliotti b[o]ldly said the FBI had lied when it claimed it had not fired into the compound. He confirmed that the infrared film showed gunfire coming from the assault weapons of FBI agents. Maryland police officials say the cause of Ghigliotti's death in April is officially a heart attack. His badly decomposed body was discovered in his office on April 28, after his building manager called the police telling them he hadnt seen Ghigliotti for weeks. Traficant believes too many coincidences, including Ghigliottis death, have occurred during the Waco investigation and is now calling upon Congress to take action. The Ohio congressman is not buying official claims that Ghigliotti, age 42, died of a heart attack in his sleep. "Something stinks," he said. "Ghigliotti said the FBI lied, that they did fire automatic weapons into the burning [Branch Davidian] building," said the congressman. "But Vector Data Systems of England said the FBI did not lie. Two scientific groups totally disagree." "Vector gets hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts from the FBI," continued Traficant. "To boot, FBI audiotapes of the burning building are now lost. To boot, FBI autopsy reports confiscated of victims are now missing." Traficant also pointed out the FBI lodged an alleged or false child abuse charge against the Davidians. The FBI had also initially denied using combustible incendiary tear gas canisters, only to admit doing so later. Although Traficant is pushing for a congressional investigation, the Laurel City Police Department told NewsMax.com it was no longer investigating the case. "The investigations been closed on the basis of the report from the medical examiners office which showed that he died of a heart attack brought on by arteriosclerosis, said Mary Bulla, the administrative specialist at Laurel City Police Department. "They found no indication of foul play, and they put that it was a natural death, so that concludes our investigation." Police State Fears "We have developed a stone cold police state in America, believe me, from Waco, Ruby Ridge, to Miami, Florida," Traficant said. "Every American knows it, [but] no one is doing anything about it. There must be a full investigation into the death of Carlos Ghigliotti." In an effort to move forward an investigation of the Justice Departments handling of the Waco tragedy, Traficant has sponsored H.R. 4105, a bill that would enact the Fair Justice Act of 2000. The act, if passed, would establish the Fair Justice Agency, a new federal agency that would independently have the power to investigate and prosecute alleged misconduct, criminal activity, corruption or fraud by an officer or employee of the Justice Department. The bill states that the president would appoint the director of the proposed FJA for a 10-year term subject to a Senate confirmation. Only inefficiency, neglect of duty or malfeasance in office would be a cause for the directors dismissal by the president. Under the bill, the FJA would have the same prosecutorial and investigative authority as the Justice Department. The agency would be authorized with $10 million for fiscal year 2001 with a $5 million increase each year for the next two years. = "In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.egroups.com/group/reality_pump == Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/25816/_/959687148/ Join the move to end modern-day slavery. Check out (http://members.xoom.com/abolitionist) for more details Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for
Re: [CTRL] Naval Reserve Comm Willard H.Miller on UFO Situation
Thanks for collating this list for us Nessie. Some very interesting names there, no? In an aside, is there any relationship between the SMOM and the Shickshinny Knights of Malta? On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: "...knighted in the Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem (Knights Templars)..." The Sovereign Military Order of Malta, better known as the Knights of Malta are the military wing of the Catholic Church. They are also a sovereign country, even though their only "territory" is an office building on Via Condotti in Rome. Thirty five countries maintain diplomatic relations with them; over forty recognize their passport. Some Knights of Malta (in no particular order): Charles Willoughby, (born Karl Widenbach) Chief of Intelligence for Gen. Douglas MacAuthur Robert Wagner, Mayor of New York, Atty. for Otto von Bolschwing William R Grace, founder of the WR Grace Co. J. Peter Grace, son of WR, head of the company and head of Reagan's "Grace Committee" which oversaw the planning of government's downsizing. Martin F Shae Executive VP of Morgan Bank, handled telexing of funds for OSS chief Wild Bill Donovan, WWII Gen. Wild Bill Donovan, Wall St. lawyer, founder of OSS, America's first central intelligence agency. Alfred Bloomingdale, served on Reagan's foreign intelligence advisory Board, better known for role in Vicki Morgan sex scandal. General Charles Pierce Cable Deputy Director of Central Intelligence under Allen Dulles Carl Cabell, brother of the mayor of Dallas the day Kennedy was killed. Tom Bolan, law partner of Roy Cohn, top advisor to Sen. Alphonse D'Amato. George W. Anderson, member of intelligence advisory board under Nixon. John D. J. Moore, WR Grace board member, former Ambassador to Ireland. Richard Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense. James J. Angleton, poet, orchid enthusiast, head of CIA counter intelligence. Lee Iacocca, titan of industry, sold Detroit to Japan Admiral James D. Watkins, Reagan's Chief of Naval Operations. Vernon Walters, CIA trouble shooter, Reagan's roving ambassador. Spyro Skouros, 20th Century Fox, OSS Walter Reuther, labor leader Henry Luce, publisher of *Life*, acid head. Alexander Haig, "I'm in charge here." Peter Dominici, chairman of sub committee on terrorism. William Clark, judge, National Security Advisor, brought Helena von Damm into USA Reinhard Gehlen, highest ranking Nazi intelligence officer to defect to US, head of the the "Gehlen Org," America's sole source of info from inside USSR immediately after WWII, more than any other single man created the Cold War, later went on to head BND, West Germany's "CIA." Though a protestant, Gehlen's role in the "crusade" against "Godless Communism" warranted him a knighthood. William Casey, Director of CIA, head of Reagan-Bush campaign, engineered "October Surprise," architect of contra-gate. James Buckley, Radio Free Europe William Buckley, founder of YAF, author of spy novels, TV talk show host, and noted debater. John Volpe, Ambassador to Italy. John McCone, Director of Central Intelligence. King Baudouin of Belgium. Henri d'Orleans, Pretender to the throne of France. Jeremiah Denton, senator Peter Dominici, senator William Wilson, Reagan's special emissary to the Vatican Patrick Frawley, founder of Christian Anti-Communist Crusade, whose fortune derives from the Schick razor empire. He own a number of right wing Catholic media outlets, including *Twin Circles*, magazine, and *National Catholic Register*. His wife is a Dame of Malta and a leading member of Right to Life League and a patron of Catholic anti abortion propagandist Phyllis Schlafly. Phyllis's husband is Patrick's employee. Robert H Abplanalp, Nixon croney, real estate hustler Joseph Kennedy, bootlegger, ambassador to England, father of various sons. Baron Hilton, innkeeper. William Stankard, Director of Chase Manhatten Bank. Danny Thomas, entertainer A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL
[CTRL] House releases LaBella report
June 7, 2000 House releases LaBella report By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore were key players in a 1996 Democratic fund-raising scheme designed to "raise money by whatever means and from whomever would give it, without meaningful attention to the lawfulness of the contributions." That is one of the conclusions of a previously unreleased 94-page report by Charles G. LaBella, former chief of the Justice Department's campaign finance task force, who recommended in July 1998 that Attorney General Janet Reno seek an independent counsel to probe fund-raising abuses. "The intentional conduct and the willful ignorance uncovered by our investigations . . . resulted in a situation where abuse was rampant, and indeed the norm," Mr. LaBella, a career prosecutor, said. "At some point, the campaign was so corrupted by bloated fundraising and questionable contributions that the system became a caricature of itself." The report, which Justice refused over the past two years to release despite Senate and House subpoenas, was made public yesterday by the House Government Reform Committee. The committee also released a November 1997 memo by FBI Director Louis J. Freeh, describing Mr. Gore as an "active participant" in questionable fund-raising efforts and calling on the attorney general to seek the appointment of an independent counsel to investigate campaign finance abuses by the vice president. "The evidence tends to show that the vice president was an active participant in the core group fundraising efforts, that he was informed about the distinctions between 'hard' and 'soft' money, and that he generally understood there were legal restrictions against making telephone solicitations from federal property," Mr. Freeh said. Mr. Gore, claiming "no controlling legal authority," has said he believed he was soliciting only soft-money donations. But documents show both hard and soft money were discussed at meetings he attended and at least 35 percent of the donations he sought went to hard-money accounts. He told the FBI he might not have heard the discussions because he was drinking a lot of iced tea and may have been in the bathroom. Soft money consists of unlimited and largely unregulated donations; hard money is made up of smaller and more restricted donations. The Freeh memo said the FBI's campaign-finance investigation focused on accusations that a "core group" of White House and Democratic National Committee officials, including Mr. Clinton and Mr. Gore, were involved in "an all-out effort" to raise money leading to White House coffees, overnight stays and telephone solicitations by the president and vice president. "The task force has now established that the vice president made approximately 86 fundraising calls from his West Wing office and reached at least 43 potential donors," Mr. Freeh said. "At least five of the persons solicited by the vice president gave money that was deposited, in part into DNC accounts." Mr. Freeh described a decision by Miss Reno not to seek outside counsel based on Mr. Gore's claims he intended to solicit only soft-money donations as "seriously flawed." "In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president was a very active, sophisticated fundraiser who knew exactly what he was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given undue weight," he said. Mr. LaBella noted in his report that Mr. Gore had received a series of memos from White House Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes and attended weekly meetings concerning hard and the so-called soft-money solicitations and the DNC's hard-money accounts. He described Mr. Ickes, who now runs Mrs. Clinton's New York campaign, as a "Svengali, assuming power with the imprimatur of the president to authorize DNC and Clinton/Gore '96 expenditures. "Curiously, though renowned as a policy wonk, the vice president claims he did not read the memos and cannot recall the meetings," Mr. LaBella said. He said the White House, in a "desperate need to raise enormous sums of money" to offset losses to Republicans in 1994, relied on the "calculated use of access" to Mr. Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton "as leverage to extract contributions" from donors hoping to enhance their own business positions. "All pretense of maintaining discrete areas of responsibility and control were shattered as the need for campaign funds driven by the media campaign increased," he said. "Such blurring of lines is troubling because it triggered an intermingling of funds, resources and personnel that resulted in the circumvention and violation of campaign contribution regulations." In releasing the documents, Committee Chairman Rep. Dan Burton, Indiana Republican, chastised the Justice Department for its failure to make the documents public. He said the department showed a lack of aggressive
[CTRL] Ex-Colo Gov. Named LA Schools Chief
[To help save the L.A. Unified School District from a couple of decades of illegal immigration, bilingual education, abandonment of phonics, lowering of academic standards, wasting money on the Belmont hazardous waste site debacle, etc., the School Board selects as its new superintendent, the former head of the Democratic National Committee, whose party was largely responsible for all of the above.] From: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/2606/us/los_angeles_schools_1.html Tuesday June 6 6:45 PM ET Ex-Colo Gov. Named LA Schools Chief AP Photos staffing, By KAREN SANTOS Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) - Former Colorado Gov. Roy Romer on Tuesday was named superintendent of the Los Angeles school system, which has been struggling with low test scores, fractious leadership and the threat of state oversight. Romer, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, will take over the nation's second-largest school district, with 711,000 students. ``The new face of America is going to be developed, in my judgment, in the L.A. community. You have the potential of being the premier metropolitan area of the United States,'' Romer said at a news conference. ``Now, there's one flaw to that. If you do not make this school system work, you're never going to get there.'' Romer, 71, succeeds Ramon Cortines, who was brought in as interim superintendent in January to begin reforms after the ouster of Ruben Zacarias. Zacarias was accused of mismanagement, and he especially came under fire when it was learned that the nation's most expensive high school, the Belmont Learning Complex, was being built on a site suffused with toxic gases left over from its days as an oil field. After $170 million in construction costs, the project was scrapped. Romer beat out two finalists with education experience: former Chicago Board of Education President George Munoz and an official of another school district who asked the Los Angeles board to keep her name private. Other potential candidates said they withdrew their applications for superintendent out of fears that the district will be taken over by the state because of all its problems. Romer spent nearly 40 years in Colorado government, beginning in 1958, when he was elected to the state House. In 1962 he moved into the Senate. He served 12 years as governor, from 1987 to 1999, and was barred by law from seeking a fourth term. He was embraced by business interests for his decisions on controlled development and growth. But he was harshly criticized by Republicans for vetoing dozens of tax cut proposals. Romer was appointed general chairman of the Democratic National Committee in 1997 and left that post late last year to become head of the committee organizing the party's convention in Los Angeles in August. His appointment comes three weeks after the nation's largest school district, the one in New York City, picked a new superintendent without education experience - former banking executive Harold Levy. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Was the Catholic Church Silent During the Holocaust?
One must never forget how the Catholic Church aided many Nazis in escaping Europe for the more salubrious climes of South America. On Tue, 06 June 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote: What did you say David? Could barely hear you. Didn't Hitler really win that war? After all, look at NATO today and Europe being organized by bombs and bullets beaten into submission by people who allegedly escaped the holocaust, like Albright who executes judgment at the Balkans even to the kids at Littleton, for Klebod wrote in his diary it was Judgment Day that April 20, and they went to war obviously under adult control, for it was said their eyes were dead and fixed. I believe right now the biggest enemy of the Catholic Church is and was the Pope. Hitler feared the Pope but the Vatican thanks to communists in disguise - Garibaldi and his Red Shirts showed how weak and vulnerable the Catholic Church was. They submit to God's Will and do not fight back. Israelies learned not to depend upon God. Who invented the bible and for what purpose? All joke about Chinaman - Chinese put bowls of rice and food on graves of their loved onesone day an Englishman was placing flowers on grave of his wife, and looked over and laughed and said "Hey Charlie, when do you think they will come up and eat that", and the Chinaman replied, "about the same time your loved one comes up to smell the roses". So ancestor worship and divine right to rule is what religion is all about. And if you want a piece of the rock you better be able to prove your pedigree. All is conspiracy. A bible is nice, but you are much safer with a gun. So never trade your gun for a bible or a talmud or you too will be pushing up daisies waiting to smell the roses and each a lot of rice. Is the Pope Cathoolic? Hell no. He is anything you say he is. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] California First Hispanic State?
Well Michael Spitzer: I think Clinton is playing The Beast in the Bible, and as the Jehovah Witnesses writes every generation has its own Beast and multilanguage pentacostal dream. It would be interesting to read what Sigmund Freud would say to this today. All the signs are there and every religious nut in the country knows it. The problem is, those following these so called "cults" do not know how they play the game. This Century the USA if the UN has its way, will be the Beast - see the foul language coming from its mouth by virtue of the news/television media. See the latest Arnold Schwartnegger movie and remember he is married to Maria Shriver, who knows all and tells him all. Clinton went to Russia with typical good guy, bad guy routine. It is too late for him to recover from the damage done; he is wounded, and his intellect now is challenged. He will be denied any greatness he conferred upon himself. I do not like games, and I do not play games. Religion has no place in government with the exception of a simple prayer in school, and to each his own. Strange only the Jehovah Witnesses seemingly have access to this NWO plan. They see a Utopia in our Future; me, I see a Medussa in Hilliary Clinton, and it will take a Perseus on a white horse, to save us. Now Pat Buchanan I think is a good Perseus. George Bush Jr. takes lead in polls, as Gore wallows in Clinton's mistakes, the biggest and fattest being Monica Lewinsky who without a doubt had some Cathy O'Brien training. Buchanan is a clean candidate. I wish Bush and Buchanan would get on the same horse for it would be adequate representation for all. So even Russia dislikes Clinton. He seeks a friend someone who will cheer him as they did JFK. JFK's smile playing with his children was worth a thousand words.Bill Clintons playing with the lives of children in war games at Waco, smiling with his thumb in his mouth, in typical of mental regard when they choke or set a cat on fire. Good cases histories too on pyromania being sex associated crimes.Refer to Los Alamos, and somebody high up gave word to light that torch. California loved Robert F. Kennedy and Dallas the last words John F. Kennedy heard were "you can' t say Dallas doesnt love you, Mr. President". Would Mexico care to give a portion of their corrupt country to the USA or will there be another Alamo in California. AS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:California Loves Buchanan - The Wash Post Can't Bear It http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 California Loves Buchanan - The Wash Post Can't Bear It From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick J. Buchanan) June 5, 2000 Mr. Leonard Downie Executive Editor Washington Post Dear Mr. Downie: Sunday morning, your newspaper ran on page A7 one of the few stories that you have carried on my campaign for the Reform Party nomination. "Buchanan is Meeting Resistance in California," blared the headline, over the dramatic subhead: "State Reform Party May Break Away." It was a legitimate and important story about a dissident scheme to derail our campaign. So important was it, your reporter-pundit David Broder rushed to his post on the highly-rated Sunday NBC show, Meet the Press, to gush about the devastating blow about to fall: Well, Nader is doing much better...he is running well ahead of Pat Buchanan in the pollsThe other interesting thing with Buchanan is that he is now for the first time running into real resistance from some elements in the Reform PartyThe California Reform Party is on the verge of rejecting the Buchanan candidacy. I think our friend Mr. Buchanan may have some problems within his own party. Sunday afternoon, however, the Buchanan forces, joined by Reform allies, rolled back and routed the threat. On Monday, the New York Times and Washington Times gave extensive coverage to our victory. The Post, which had trumpeted the threat, ignored our triumph. Not one word. Now, this is not another complaint about the anti-Buchanan animus of the Post. That is not news. This is rather a request that you review the inherent conflict-of-interest your newspaper, given its bias, has in the 2000 presidential race. Consider: The Washington Post owns and operates one of the key polls that is charged with measuring whether our campaign has reached the 15% threshold for participation in the presidential debates. The Post is also one of the media companies that will determine whether our campaign is fully and fairly covered - the only way we have a chance to reach 15%. In brief, the media companies that control the polls - NBC, CBS, CNN, Washington Post, etc. - also control our TV and press coverage, the decisive factor in whether we reach 15%. To sum up: you have the power to fix the election of 2000; our fate is in the hands of our Big Media adversaries. You are standing on our windpipe, Mr. Downie. Now, this is a lesser problem for Governor Bush. His party stands to take in $250 million in "soft money"
[CTRL] OEN 6/7/00
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - The Looming Crisis Economic Catch-22 by Dr. Irwin Kellner NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Hear me now and believe me later. The more the stock market celebrates what it believes to be a slowing economy -- the less likely it is that the economy will, indeed slow. Its not that Wall Street wants to see Main Street in the dumpster. Indeed, the last thing equity participants want to see is a recession because that takes a big chunk out of corporate profits, putting stock prices at risk. Rather, its slower growth that the Street is praying for. Reason: This might convince the Federal Reserve that its job is done, and that interest rates do not have to go up much more -- if at all. Rising interest rates always put a damper on stocks and this time is no exception. The Fed began hiking rates last June. As a consequence, the Nasdaq peaked in March, the Dow Jones Industrials back in January, while many stocks saw their highs last year. When rates go up, stocks lose their luster for a number of reasons. First of all, rising rates cut into earnings by increasing costs while reducin g sales. Higher interest rates also make margin buying more difficult, while increasing the attractiveness of bonds. Not surprisingly, the prospects that rates might stabilize for a while, instead of continuing to head higher, was cause for celebration, down on Wall Street. Convinced Fed is done hiking The Federal funds futures market is already convinced that the Fed will rest on its oars, come the end of this month. Two weeks ago, this market, where traders bet on future Fed policy, was bracing for another half-point hike. A spate of weak economic numbers, capped off by Mays labor force figures, gets the credit for this 180-degreee change in thinking. Rising stocks force Feds hand The problem is that by boosting stock prices in response, traders and investors are all but assuring that the Fed will continue raising rates. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why. Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and his colleagues have expressed concern that soaring stock prices, by making investors wealthier, have increased their propensity to spend. So if stock prices remain on their upward trajectory, it is not unreasonable to assume that, before too long, consumers will once again whip out their credit cards and shop till they drop. And if this, in turn, keeps the economic pot simmering, what do you think the Feds reaction will be? I would not bet the ranch that the Fed will just sit back and do nothing. A better bet would be another rate increase. Dr. Irwin Kellner, chief economist of CBS MarketWatch, is Weller professor of economics at Hofstra University. MarketWatch, June 7, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Data Sanctuary is Born
from: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,36749-2,00.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,36749,00.html" A Data Sanctuary is Born/A - A Data Sanctuary Is Born by Declan McCullagh 5:00 p.m. Jun. 4, 2000 PDT WASHINGTON -- A windswept gun tower anchored six miles off the stormy coast of England is about to become the first Internet data haven. A group of American cypherpunks has transformed the rusting fortress, erected by the British military during World War II to shoot down Nazi aircraft, into a satellite-linked virtual home for anyone looking for a secure place to store sensitive or controversial data. The founders of HavenCo, which will announce operations on Monday, believe the concept will appeal to individuals and businesses looking for a "safe haven" from governments around that world that are becoming more and more interested in Internet regulation and taxation. It's for "companies that want to have email servers in a location in which they can consider their email private and not open to scrutiny by anyone capable of filing a lawsuit," says Sean Hastings, the 32-year-old chief executive of HavenCo. Hastings says that because a 1968 British court decision effectively recognized the basketball court-sized island as a sovereign nation called Seal and, HavenCo can provide more privacy and legal protections then anyone else on the planet. To create HavenCo -- which will offer Linux servers for $1,500 a month -- the founders signed an agreement with Roy Bates, the quirky "crown prince" of Sealand who landed on the abandoned platform in 1966 and claimed it as an independent nation with its own currency, stamps, and flag. Bates, a former British Army major, has undertaken a string of failed business ventures in an attempt to make use of the world's tiniest country -- a platform just 10 by 25 yards that perches atop two cement caissons in the North Sea. One plan was to build Sealand into a three-mile-long, man-made island with an airport and banks. Another venture included working with German investors to build a $70 million hotel and gambling complex -- a scheme that fell apart with the Germans taking over the fortress in 1978 and Bates regaining control in a dramatic helicopter raid at dawn. This time the elder Bates, now about 80 years old, is taking no chances on his business partners: His son and royal heir-apparent, Michael, is HavenCo's chief logistics officer and the royal family has a seat on the board. But today Sealand's potential adversaries include not merely a few expansion-minded Germans, but nervous government officials who are aggressively trying to pull the plug on unapproved offshore activities. During a Paris summit in May, for instance, representatives of the Group of Eight (G8) nations met to hammer out an agreement on international Net law. "The idea is to produce a global text so there cannot be 'digital havens' or 'Internet havens' where anyone planning some shady business could find the facilities to do it," French Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevenement said at the time. When Sealand was simply an eccentric's hobby, the British government largely ignored the smallest country in the world. But if HavenCo becomes a popular destination for gambling, money laundering, or other socially disapproved activities, governments could move against it. The Home Office in London could restrict the microwave links that provide HavenCo with its lifeline to the outside world, and the companies offering satellite connectivity could come under pressure from regulators in their home countries. HavenCo could even find its bank accounts imperiled. For their part, HavenCo executives say they hope to avoid negative publicity. "We don't intend to make anyone angry at us. We simply want to provide online businesses a place with a sane set of rules that are not constantly changing," Hastings said. "If larger nations have a problem with unrestricted information flow, then their problem is with the increase in information technology, and not with us. They can't put the genie back in the bottle until every individual on the planet has had their three wishes come true," he said. Somewhat ironically, bandits recently set up a fake "Principality of Sealand" website to sell citizenship to unsuspecting visitors. Spanish authorities reportedly are investigating a gang involved with drug smuggling and arms trafficking using those passports. In a bizarre incident, one "Sealand" passport of dubious origin surfaced in connection with the July 1997 murder of fashion designer Gianni Versace in Miami. The British Embassy in Washington declined to comment on what would prompt London to take action against the legitimate prince of Sealand. "What it comes down to is that this is a hypothetical (situation), and so we cannot speculate on this," said Peter Reed, the embassy's press officer. In interviews, U.S. government officials indicated they would take a more active
[CTRL] SURVEY ONLINE FINANCE
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.economist.com/editorial/freeforall/2520/index_survey.html "The Economist/A - 20th May 2000SURVEY ONLINE FINANCE The virtual threat The Internet has already forced wrenching change on the financial-services industryand the revolution has barely begun, says Simon Long The other sort of channel conflict Banking The Internet Search archive LinksTHE most remarkable thing about the effect of the Internet on the financial-services sector is not how pervasive it has been; it is how limited a transformation it has so far wrought. Financial institutions, after all, deal in a productmoneythat for many of their customers has long been virtual. Bank-account holders are used to the notion that their cash is represented by a series of numbers on a monthly statement generated by a computer, or by the glowing green figures of a cash machine. And they have become accustomed to making payments using pieces of plastic backed with a clever magnetic strip. The Internet might have been designed for the distribution, monitoring and management of this ubiquitous electronic commodity. More worryingly for the firms that make their living out of arranging financial transactions, the Internet might also have been designed to do away with them. Banks and other financial firms are intermediaries, standing between lenders and borrowers, savers and spenders. For decades, banks in rich countries have been fretting about how to cope with disintermediation: lenders dealing direct with borrowers (as many do already in the capital markets), without using a banks balance sheet to add a layer of cost. The Internet is, potentially, the greatest force for disintermediation the banks have ever had to tackle. Other intermediaries, such as retailers, face the same problem. But money, unlike, say, an item of clothing, is a commodity that can actually be used, transferred and delivered electronically. Samuel Theodore, of Moodys, a credit-rating agency, believes the banks are currently undergoing their fourth disintermediation. The first involved savings, and the growth of mutual funds, specialised pension funds and life-insurance policies at the expense of bank deposits; the second saw the capital markets take on some of the banks traditional role as providers of credit; in the third, advances in technology helped to streamline back-office operations. Now, in the fourth stage, the distribution of banking products is being disintermediated. This process has been going on for some years, with the spread of automated teller machines (ATMs) and, over the past decade or so, telephone banking and PC-based proprietary systems; but the Internet hugely enlarges its scope. Spotty youth Yet, except for one activity, share-trading, and one part of the world, Scandinavia, Internet-based financial retailing is, if not in its infancy, then scarcely at puberty. And wholesale banking, although it relies heavily on complex electronic trading systems and information technology, is still conducted mostly on closed proprietary networks. To be sure, there are some signs that the disintermediation the industry fears may be starting. Internet banks, with their low costsand their dot.com habit of paying more attention to the acquisition of customers than the turning of profitshave drawn deposits away from offline banks in some countries. And in the capital markets, bond issues and share offerings have been syndicated and distributed over the Internet. Some highly rated borrowers have for years been borrowing through their own issues of commercial paper. The Internet can only enhance the appeal of do-it-yourself fund-raising. But these are just the early signs of an upheaval that is gathering momentum by the day. There are a number of reasons why many online financial services have been slow to catch on, and why they can now be expected to develop faster. Concerns about the security of Internet transactions, a particularly important issue for financial dealings, are gradually being eased. Internet use, even in the rich world, has been patchy, but is spreading fast. And whereas conducting financial transactions online up to now has often been clunky and annoying, the technology is improving all the time. Those technological advances are also liberating the Internet from the confines of the PC (see article). Most important, financial institutions themselves, which in the past have often resisted change, may now become its most ardent promoters. Having invested heavily in their own systems, banks were understandably reluctant to jettison them for web-based replacements. And adapting their own processes for the Internet has often proved cumbersome and difficult. Moreover, until recently banks faced little pressure from their customers to change what were seen as useful but boring services, much the same as electricity and gas. But soon, in many countries, customers will expect an online
[CTRL] Your privacy ends here
from: http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,328071,00.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,328071,00.html"The Observer | Focus | Your privacy ends here/A - Focus: Freedom and the net Your privacy ends here A Bill which is slipping through the House of Lords will allow MI5 access to all our online communications, says John Naughton. It could mean we're all guilty until proven innocent. So why don't we care more? Free speech on the net: special report Sunday June 4, 2000 When you wake on Thursday 5 October next, you will find yourself living in a different country. An ancient bulwark of English law - the principle that someone is presumed innocent until proven guilty - will have been overturned. And that is just for starters. From that date also the police and security services will enjoy sweeping powers to snoop on your email traffic and web use without let or hindrance from the Commissioner for Data Protection. Every UK internet service provider (ISP) will have to install a black box which monitors all the data-traffic passing through its computers, hard-wired to a special centre currently being installed in MI5's London headquarters. This new mass surveillance facility is called the Government Technical Assistance Centre (GTAC). Who said Jack Straw had no sense of humour? The Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Bill which is now before the Lords gives the Home Secretary powers of interception and surveillance which would be the envy of the most draconian regime. In addition to encroaching on civil liberties, the same Bill will also drive hordes of e-commerce companies from Britain to countries like Ireland where their encryption keys - extended pin numbers allowing users to decipher jumbled data - will be protected from government prying. An administration which complains continually about making Britain 'the most e-friendly country in the world' by 2002 is busily making sure that exactly the opposite happens. How has this extraordinary state of affairs come about? Is it another manifestation of the cock-up theory of history, or are there more sinister forces at work? The answer is a bit of both. For some time, it has been obvious to Ministers and civil servants that British law needed updating to cope with the internet. In an era when online trading becomes ubiquitous, for example, some way has to be found of making 'digital signatures' legally valid. Accordingly, a special Cabinet Office unit headed by Professor Jim Norton set to work to devise a new legislative framework for the emerging world of e-commerce and online communications. The main result of his labour was the Electronic Commerce Bill. As that Bill went through its Parliamentary hoops, it became clear that some parts of it - mainly the sections dealing with data encryption, interception and surveillance - were so deeply flawed that they threatened to sink the Bill. Given the Government's desire to make headway on the e-commerce front, the problematic sections were eventually jettisoned and the Electronic Commerce Bill became law in 1999. It was a smart decision, but it left unresolved the problem of what to do about the encryption stuff. The DTI, smarting from its bruising at the hands of the computer scientists who had comprehensively shredded the original encryption proposals, wanted nothing more to do with it. Accordingly the poisoned chalice passed to the Home Office, which knows little of business and even less about the internet, but is endlessly attentive to the needs of the police, the security services and the Byzantine imperatives of official secrecy. The RIP Bill is the fruit of that secretive bureaucratic milieu. The official rationale for the legislation is that it is required to bring UK law into conformance with the European Convention on Human Rights. In the end, this will have to be tested in the courts, but Straw's confidence is not shared by the Commons Trade Industry Select Committee which last October recommended that the Government publish a detailed analysis to substantiate its confidence that the Bill does not contravene the Convention. This the Government has so far declined to do. The Bill has four main parts. The first deals with the interception of communications. the second covers 'surveillance and covert human intelligence sources'. The third tackles encryption and the fourth covers the 'scrutiny of investigatory powers and of the functions of the intelligence services'. Parts I to III propose massive extensions of the state's powers to spy on its citizens while the fourth suggests a regulatory regime which seems laughably inadequate to anyone familiar with internet technology. All sections of the Bill have been heavily criticised by external experts and a small number of committed MPs, but the legislation has passed through its Commons scrutiny with its central provisions intact.
[CTRL] Eureka! Scientists break speed of light
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgnusa01007.htmlCli ck Here: A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgnusa01007.h tml"THE SUNDAY TIMES: FOREIGN NEWS/A - Eureka! Scientists break speed of light Jonathan Leake, Science Editor SCIENTISTS claim they have broken the ultimate speed barrier: the speed of light. In research carried out in the United States, particle physicists have shown that light pulses can be accelerated to up to 300 times their normal velocity of 186,000 miles per second. The implications, like the speed, are mind-boggling. On one interpretation it means that light will arrive at its destination almost before it has started its journey. In effect, it is leaping forward in time. Exact details of the findings remain confidential because they have been submitted to Nature, the international scientific journal, for review prior to possible publication. The work was carried out by Dr Lijun Wang, of the NEC research institute in Princeton, who transmitted a pulse of light towards a chamber filled with specially treated caesium gas. Before the pulse had fully entered the chamber it had gone right through it and travelled a further 60ft across the laboratory. In effect it existed in two places at once, a phenomenon that Wang explains by saying it travelled 300 times faster than light. The research is already causing controversy among physicists. What bothers them is that if light could travel forward in time it could carry information. This would breach one of the basic principles in physics - causality, which says that a cause must come before an effect. It would also shatter Einstein's theory of relativity since it depends in part on the speed of light being unbreachable. This weekend Wang said he could not give details but confirmed: "Our light pulses did indeed travel faster than the accepted speed of light. I hope it will give us a much better understanding of the nature of light and how it behaves." Dr Raymond Chiao, professor of physics at the University of California at Berkeley, who is familiar with Wang's work, said he was impressedby the findings. "This is a fascinating experiment," he said. In Italy, another group of physicists has also succeeded in breaking the light speed barrier. In a newly published paper, physicists at the Italian National Research Council described how they propagated microwaves at 25% above normal light speed. The group speculates that it could be possible to transmit information faster than light. Dr Guenter Nimtz, of Cologne University, an expert in the field, agrees. He believes that information can be sent faster than light and last week gave a paper describing how it could be done to a conference in Edinburgh. He believes, however, that this will not breach the principle of causality because the time taken to interpret the signal would fritter away all the savings. "The most likely application for this is not in time travel but in speeding up the way signals move through computer circuits," he said. Wang's experiment is the latest and possibly the most important evidence that the physical world may not operate according to any of the accepted conventions. In the new world that modern science is beginning to perceive, sub-atomic particles can apparently exist in two places at the same time - making no distinction between space and time. Separate experiments carried out by Chiao illustrate this. He showed that in certain circumstances photons - the particles of which light is made - could apparently jump between two points separated by a barrier in what appears to be zero time. The process, known as tunnelling, has been used to make some of the most sensitive electron microscopes. The implications of Wang's experiments will arouse fierce debate. Many will question whether his work can be interpreted as proving that light can exceed its normal speed - suggesting that another mechanism may be at work. Neil Turok, professor of mathematical physics at Cambridge University, said he awaited the details with interest, but added: "I doubt this will change our view of the fundamental laws of physics." Wang emphasises that his experiments are relevant only to light and may not apply to other physical entities. But scientists are beginning to accept that man may eventually exploit some of these characteristics for inter-stellar space travel. Next page: Trials to start for cocaine 'vaccine' Next: Trials to start for cocaine 'vaccine' Copyright 2000 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard terms and conditions. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Sunday Times, visit the Syndication website. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
SkeptiNews 000607a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/06_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No perditious paradigms were perpetuated to produce this bulletin. None. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Godel's Proof: http://www.ddc.net/ygg/etext/godel/index.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFOs on Film are for real. DARWIN, AUSTRALIA. A Darwin man has captured on film unidentified flying objects flying over Darwin last month. Night- cliff resident Keith Sauerwald said yesterday he saw 11 orange glowing objects flying across the sky in arrow formation on May 18th. Why no abduction? http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m06-005.shtml # Strange Lights in Broome, Western Australia: http://caus.org/mu052600.htm # Hush-hush file on giant UFO http://alienzoo.com/news/u/26060003.cfm # 'UFO Theorists Gain Support Abroad, But Repression At Home' - happens all the time: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/may/m21-011.shtml # Abductees Report Similar Ailments: http://www.caus.org/pc052500.htm : Have you captured any UFOs lately?Have any UFOs captured you? Do UFOs keep secrets? Have you been repressed due to your UFO theories?Have you repressed any UFO theorists lately? Do UFO theories mask military experiments? Which? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Showtime For 'Big Bang' Machine. NEW YORK - Researchers in New York say they are just days away from a milestone in physics: the first particle collisions within the most powerful machine of its kind. Scientists say the experiment eventually will generate a state of matter that existed a millionth of a second after the Big Bang. And even before the first collision' the experiment has generated a legal and scientific debate worthy of a movie plot. http://www.msnbc.com/news/314049.asp # TEN MORE SUPERMASSIVE BLACK HOLES FOUND - Richard Simmons urges restraint: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/blackhole_bulge_000605.html # BLACK HOLES MAY OCCUR IN PAIRS http://unisci.com/stories/20002/0606004.htm : What's your favorite black hole? D'ya prefer black holes, big bangs, WIMPs or MACHOs or me? D'ya like to experiment with primordial energy phenomena? Are you endangering Earth, the galaxy, reality with your work? D'ya care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Scientists push new life origin theory. One of the greatest mysteries is how life emerged on primeval Earth.A new theory postulates the spontaneous replication of lipid molecules. "The accepted notion of the creation of life is that prior to the appearance of living organisms,there was a stage of chemical evolution, which involved selection within inanimate chemical mixtures.This is thought to have eventually led to the crucial moment,when self-replicating molecules arose.As self-replication is a most fundamental characteristic of living entities, such an event is often defined as the birth of life." Hi there. http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal060702.html @ CULTURAL ORIGINS OF THE BOOKS OF MOSES IN GENESIS AND THE PARADISE MYTHS: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/religion.html#culturalorigins @ The social construction of reality, truth, knowledge, and everything else. Is this a cliché that's run its course? http://www.threepennyreview.com/samples/furbank_su00.html : Have you created any lifes/deaths/paradises/perditions lately? Have any of your molecules spontaneously replicated lately? Are they hard to stop? Has spontaneous replication gotten out of control? Is it mythological? Are you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ALERT: MASSIVE SOLAR X-CLASS FLARES. Whether these flares will hit Earth remains to be seen, but the position of dangerous region 9026 is most ominous; there may be more eruptions to come: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/ # Official Space Weather Advisory...06/07/00 *** STRONG RADIO BLACKOUTS *** Get fried: http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0607space.htm # "It Will Come From The Sky" -- CME's On Their Way. I have received three Urgent messages from sources in and close to NASA NOAA. They are warning of a HUGH geomagnetic storm heading our way. Could it be related to Fatima Prophecy? http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0607cme.htm # THE MAYAN CALENDAR AND THE DECEMBER 21, 2012 END DATE - bend over, kiss your ass goodbye: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/prophecy.html#mayan : Will everything end on 21 Dec 2012? Will that be a relief? Should we worry about preceding events?Are these solar flares premonitions, trivial, deadly? Are geomagnetic storms a refreshing relief from electromagnetic drought?Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # NEW BREED OF VIRUS TARGETS HANDHELDS. Computer security wonks intercepted a new virus designed to attack cell phones with text
[CTRL] Knesset Says New Elections - But Not So Quick (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:08:44 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Knesset Says New Elections - But Not So Quick ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! - - - - - - - - - - To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] "PEACE PROCESS" MANEUVERS MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 6/7/00: This just in from Israel -- new elections ahead? But it's hard to say at this point, what's going on. Barak is a former commando General who knows well how to manipulate and deceive in order to prepare the way for what he wants. He and his largely military and intelligence government are now using a similar approach manipulating the levers of politics in addition to Israel's military and covert capabilities. The recent "assassination" scares, all the hoopla about Abu Dis, talk of a "fund" for "resettlement" of refugees, pushing for an Arafat-Barak-Clinton Camp David summit, and now this -- it all fits in well with what appears to be Barak's complicated multifaceted and multi-option strategy. And it goes something like this. Let the U.S. do much of the heavy lifting and pay the big bills; get the Europeans to continue staying out of the way but also to promise more big money to Arafat; use the Clinton situation and Israeli power in the States to continually press Arafat into a corner for a "final settlement"; manipulate Arab opinion by repackaging old policies with new rhetoric and terminology; keep playing the Syrians off against the Palestinians, using military threats to further worry them coupled with economic and personal bribe incentives to further entice them. This is a time of major leverage for the Israelis and they know it. Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright haves always been in their pocket, no matter what political theatrics are played out for public opinion, and never has Clinton wanted and needed a Middle East deal at any cost more than now. Arafat is in a corner and on the ropes -- and no matter how much he squirms and pretends otherwise he is controlled and manipulated by the Israelis and the CIA which are everywhere around him, listening and watching everything he does, and well aware that they have unprecedented leverage over a Palestinian leader. Iraq has been destroyed, the Syrian military is in bad shape, the Hashemite King is their man as was his father before him, they have extricated themselves from Lebanon with the U.N. now being pushed to protect that border for them, and their military and economic strength relative to all the Arab states combined gives the little State of Israel quite an unbelievable 8 to 1 edge. So, if the historic deals Israel desperately wants the current Arab leaders to sign before its too late can be made, fantastic. If a historic deal that suits Israel's long-term interests and which legitimizes most of Israel's gains can be had, they want very much to quickly grab it while Arafat is there to sign on the dotted line; and the same with Assad. The time has never been better for them; the deals have never been more weighted in Israel's favor. But if for whatever reasons neither deal with the Palestinians or Syrians works out as Israel wants to "end the conflict", they are still positioned extremely well. Barak will claim the Israelis went the extra mile time and again "to achieve peace". The Arabs and their friends are as incapable of defending against the Israeli-American propaganda machine as they are of taking on Israel militarily.. The Israelis can fall back on alternative policies, including their military might, if anyone dares to seriously challenge them. Syria only has to look at what was done to Iraq and Yugoslavia in recent years to see how dangerous the situation is for them. And Iran should be very worried as well. And furthermore, if Barak really gets into any serious problems he can let the "new election" gambit go forward, buy himself more time, see if he is going to be dealing with George W. or Gore in Washington, let Arafat's stew boil over into further chaos and mafioso ways further demoralizing the Palestinians who are now on reservations patrolled by Palestinian police with overall Israeli-CIA control. And all the while the Israelis and the Americans will keep telling Arafat and Assad, for as long as they are alive, that they are missing their historical moment; continually squeezing and threatening them hoping one or both will choose the accolades the Israelis can arrange for them rather than passing away with the much more negative legacies the Israelis can
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
OK, I could have called them "infraterrestrials" or "metaterrestrials" instead of "ultraterrestrials." All that I meant by using "ultraterrestrial" was that they would be just as much products of Earthly evolution as are human beings. However, I've seen the term "ultraterrestrial" used to refer to a physical race of intelligent entities who, like humans, evolved on Earth, but in a radically different direction. Just what that direction was, remains to be seen. My guess here is that they are essentially the same as the "fairies" (goblins, Heinzelmännchen, fée, etc.) found in every culture on the planet. Sometimes they're worshipped as gods, ancestors, or both; sometimes feared as demons, incubi, succubi; sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and accepted. The one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is that they are able to project an image of themselves that "casts a glamour" on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment. As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely. - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:) I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials
In a message dated 6/7/00 9:54:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: he one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is that they are able to project an image of themselves that "casts a glamour" on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment. As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely. ***Why? That's easy the Vorlons clearly showed that they wanted to control the development of we lesser races. Dam Anal retntives Carl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Divorcing the Dictator
an excerpt from: Divorcing the Dictator Fredrick Kempe©1990 Putnam ISBN 0-399-13517-0 469 pps. - First Edition/only edition -- Out-of-print - --"The CIA made an honest case," said one of the meeting's attendees. "You cannot have a relationship with people for many, many years and suddenly sever it without repercussions. The U.S. was like a spider in a web, and every little move in the net had repercussions."-- --One call was to Lewis's banker, Jackson T. Stephens, in Little Rock, Arkansas, who was desperate to get his friend and client to safety. Jack Stephens had accumulated one of the world's biggest fortunes at his investment banking firm of Stephens, Inc. by quietly disregarding Wall Street. He provided special services to customers, but seldom of the kind he gave Lewis that day. Stephens phoned his former classmate at the Naval Academy, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral William Crowe. Stephens asked Crowe to help get Lewis out of the jam. Crowe phoned the Southern Command, and within minutes General Woerner sent over a black-paneled truck with some plainclothes bodyguards to protect Lewis and help him escape Panama.-- Om K - As Noriega's power grew, Diaz Herrera came to believe that General Noriega's strength came partly from Ivan Trilha, his Brazilian psychic and mentalist, and partly from Noriega's broad mixture of beliefs ranging from Buddhism to the Afro-Caribbean black magic beliefs subscribed to by many Panamanian officers. How else could such a small and insigificant man have come so far? Consequently, in early October 1986 he went to Buenos Aires to find his own sorcerer. Friends put him in touch with an eighty-eight-year-old yogi named Indra Devi, whose powers convinced Diaz Herrera there was another way to take on Noriegathrough Prana, the vital breath that sustains life and is issued as energy from pure substances such as fruit. She made him hold an apple in one outstretched, clenched fist and a cigarette in the other. The frail woman was unable to pull down the arm with the apple, but the fist with the cigarette fell easily. Diaz Herrera was converted. Through this elderly yogi, Diaz Herrera met a California psychic who would become his constant companion and secret weapon against Noriega. She was Shama Calhourn, whose exotic, brown-skinned beauty in a white sari and white fingernails captivated the colonel. She and the old woman were both disciplines of Satya Sai Baba, who they said was a human reincarnation of God who lived in the Indian desert near Bangalore. A cobra had entered his crib as a child, but never hurt him. Ever since then, the boy had performed miracles: making instruments play by themselves and food appear from nothing. Surely, thought Diaz Herrera, Noriega could do little to combat such power. Shama Calhourn read Diaz Herrera's future. She asked him to look at her third eye, located at the middle of her forehead, so she could read his aura. "Your mission in life is an historic one," she said. "Nothing can stop you from an inevitable battle. Don't expect to win right away, for you will be victorious in the end." The Californian, whom he affectionately called "La Gringa," didn't even know Noriega, but who else could she have meant? "So I started a metaphysical war with Noriega with the assistance of my psychic from California," Diaz Herrera laughed later. He set up a Sai Baba temple in his home, complete with lighted candles; he meditated; and he read. Shama Calhoum also put Diaz Herrera in touch with a spiritualist masseuse from Miami and a Los Angeles nutritionist, whom the chief of staff flew to Panama at government expense. Diaz Herrera hoped Noriega would see his enemy was now armed for spiritual warfare. By early 1987, Diaz Herrera all but forgot he was chief of staff. His passion was Sai Baba, whose color photograph-complete with crossed legs, long black hair, beads, and bare chesthe posted on his bedroom wall. Jose de Jesus Martinez ("Chuchu"), who gained world fame for being the central figure in Graham Greene's book Getting to Know the General, thought Diaz Herrera wanted to believe so badly he overlooked Shama Calhourn's mistakes. On a long-distance call, Diaz Herrera asked the Californian to tell Chuchu what his ailments were. "You are having problems with your eyes." "She's brilliant, isn't she?" asked Diaz Herrera. Chuchu, who had nothing wrong with his eyes, remained silent. He understood the attraction when Calhourn arrived in Panama for personal service. "She was the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, with skin so soft that it should only have been touched by a blind man," Chuchu would say later. Yet the crazier Diaz Herrera acted, the less Noriega worried about him. Noriega knew his plot was working when he heard that Chuchu, long a friend to Diaz Herrera, alleged that he had been chained like a dog in Diaz Herrera's basement and made to bark. Noriega's own psychic, Ivan Trilha, also told him that Diaz Herrera's
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and accepted. Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different, that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power we don't have, that doesn't make them our superiors. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, so using that logic, western society is more moral than South Pacific tribes, because western society developed the A-bomb and the Pacific islanders did not...therefore, we were morally justified in forceably evicting the residents of the Bikini atolls from their centuries-old home so that we could use it for our nuclear tests... Were the developers of Iron Age tools morally superior to their Stone Age ancestors? Were their Bronze Age decendents then morally superior to themselves? It was terribly obvious what I meant about technology. Yes, 'terribly' is the key word here. You stated that only beings that had attained a certain high calibre of morality would be 'allowed' ('allowed' by whom, I wonder) to attain higher levels of technology. Basically saying that if residents of another planet have attained the technological means to travel here, then for some reason they must be of a higher moral calibre than we are... Using that logic then implies that western culture is more 'moral' than cultures which haven't attained the level of technology that we have, that we have been 'allowed' to attain more technology than them because God is on our side That was the argument the European explorers used to conquer and enslave native peoples around the worldand was the justification Europe and the U.S. used in the last century to justify their colonial policies. After all, white culture was "Christian" culture, giving whites the moral justification to subjugate other races who just happen to worship another way. Christian missionaries argued that they brought about a 'spiritual awakening' in all the people they converted, too... Either you're not wired-up to understand plain English Oh, I understand the implied racism in your statement very well... or you're deliberately saying off-the-wall things for whatever reasons of your own (hey, I'm quick). No, I'm just explaining what your philosophy really means, because it's obvious you have never thought out the full implications of it. Or perhaps you have... I'm sure that you'll retort that I never shared anything of substance to begin with, so let me just save you one of your 7 per day posts/email address and let the insult just hang there for you. We've already covered this. You admitted that this is your personal opinion, which is fine. I have no problem with personal opinion presented as such. My objection is with people like Nicky Molloy presenting personal opinion and claiming it is FACT. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Naval Reserve Comm Willard H.Miller on UFO Situation
From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Given Miller's various pursuits and his military carrer, as well as his affiliations it is reasonable to presume that he is an "intelligence agent" of one kind or another. Given his remarks and clear willingness to be associated with UFO groups it stands to reason that what he says is highly suspect, and could be disinformation. Also setting up meetings at the Pentagon is NOT a big deal, just as the one editor said. And the fact that many people in government "are interested in the subject" has nothing to do with what level that interest is at and what they are doing (or have the power to do) to get it resolved. Remember Clinton supposedly wanted a closer look at the UFO situation, the Kennedy assassination and Area-51. Well he didn't do anything to enlighten anybody, if he found out anything at all. And hey, remember Jimmy Carter before he was elected, admitted to having seen at least one UFO, and promised to get to 'the truth' of UFOs once elected to office... We're still waiting... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ronald Reagan - Actor, Airhead, or What?
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ronald Reagan - Actor, Airhead, or What? Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 8:11 PM BOOKSPublished Sunday, May 7, 2000, in the Miami Herald Airhead, actor or achiever? Ronald Reagan and his legacy of `Star Wars' * Way Out There in the Blue: Reagan and Star Wars and the End of the Cold War. Frances Fitzgerald. Simon Schuster. 592 pages. $30. BY IKE SEAMANS Dismissed even by his official biographer as an ``apparent airhead'' with ``encyclopedic ignorance,'' Ronald Reagan makes an easy target. Even books written by former close associates (more than a dozen) call the ex-president a simpleton, a puppet, a man totally unprepared and detached from reality. According to Donald Regan, a former chief of staff, Reagan rarely worried about presidential burdens, because he'd been ``learning his lines, composing his facial expression, and hitting his toe marks for half a century.'' In short, he was ``just an actor.'' ALL THE PUTDOWNS In case you've missed any of the other endless putdowns, Frances Fitzgerald's exhaustive research for Way Out There in the Blue has found them all. Fitzgerald is no Reagan fan, but the Pulitzer Prize winner (Fire in the Lake) concludes the man was no dope, and anyone who believes differently really hasn't studied closely enough his life and career. While she gives many examples of Reagan's detachment on the job and how he left the details and frequently the decisions to others, Fitzgerald writes that Reagan was the quintessential homespun Everyman, rooted in 19th Century Protestant beliefs of national greatness; someone with whom people could quickly and easily identify; a great storyteller and superb speechwriter as well as performer once he found something close to his heart. Fitzgerald writes that the proof of Reagan's success was his ability to restore national morale even while the achievements of his administration seemed elusive. To make her point, Fitzgerald casts what she calls a ``magnifying glass'' on Reagan's pet program and perhaps his legacy: the Strategic Defense Initiative, SDI, or ``Star Wars.'' What other president, Fitzgerald argues, could persuade the country it desperately needed something that did not and could not exist in the foreseeable future: an umbrella-like shield of space-based weapons to ward off destruction from Soviet missiles? ``SDI was surely Reagan's greatest triumph as an actor-storyteller,'' she writes. Reagan announced SDI in March 1983, just a few weeks after he had called the Soviet Union the ``Evil Empire'' in an Orlando speech. The concept was promptly rejected as unworkable science fiction by most experts, including many within the administration, but SDI became Reagan's greatest sales job when the public overwhelmingly endorsed it. It also led to four ground-breaking summit meetings with Soviet Premier Gorbachev who tried and failed to get Reagan to discard the project, one his financially strapped country could not match. Fitzgerald presents arguments, pro and con, on whether this is what caused the Soviet Union's collapse and the end of the Cold War. She does credit Reagan with declaring its demise long before the experts dared to do so. Ironically, many early opponents now support the SDI concept, which is the subject of mushrooming scholarly studies and government research. FILM INFLUENCES Fitzgerald writes about a University of California professor who is convinced Reagan was greatly influenced by a 1940 movie, Murder in the Air, in which he played a secret agent protecting an ``Inertia Projector,'' which could destroy all enemy aircraft and ``make the United States invincible in war.'' And in Alfred Hitchcock's Torn Curtain, a 1966 film about the development of an anti-missile system, secret agent Paul Newman declares, ``we will produce a defensive weapon that will make all nuclear weapons obsolete and thereby abolish the terror of nuclear warfare,'' language almost identical to Reagan's when he announced SDI in 1983. Fitzgerald's book also provides a complicated behind-the-scenes look at U.S.-Soviet relations at a dangerous time of summitry, arms control, the Iran-Contra scandal, a president oblivious to White House in-fighting among advisers and Cabinet members and the end of the Cold War. Fitzgerald's apparent effort to include everything she knows (which is a lot), sometimes makes this long, rambling but fascinating history plodding. Still, Way Out There in the Blue will fill gaps and provoke discussion and controversy. But readers interested mainly in the psychohistory of our most puzzling president should stick to the first few chapters, into which most of the juicy stuff is crammed. Ike Seamans is senior correspondent for WTVJ-NBC 6. Contact Us Copyright 2000 Miami Heral Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not
[CTRL] Fwd: Slavemaster murder case widens
This is another interesting case and the mobile home business is subject to close scrutiny also. A traveling serial killer. Intent of sending this is beware of Predators on the Web who would talk pillow talk. Many times in the past several years, I have had these people attempt to get into off list discussions, but one never knows with whom, one is speaking. Think about this - Littleton. Is this how these two kids were programmed into killing their classmates? Note also nothing is done about pornogrpahy on the web; that is perfectly alright, but do not let a teenager expose mistreatment at school. It will be interesting to see who and what in particular, this Robinson is. Did he prey upon women who had money? Beware of any discussions where information is gleaned from little clues - for instance, a widow might have her own home, or a young divorcee might have her own home and out there are predators ready to pounce. The worst conspiracy of all now going on in this country according to a close friend, is predators pouncing on the elderly with funds in banks and property. A frog he would a wooing go. I carefully avoid anything that asks about income, for this is now how these people work collecting financial intelligence first. So watch out for the would be Don Juan's on the web who would whisper sweet nothing$$ in your ear and sometimes looking for place to roost while contemplating killing goose with golden eggs. A Saba 'Slavemaster' murder case widens Police look into suspect's ties to Internet chat rooms, Web sites James Edward Robinson Sr. is believed by police to have used the Internet alias "slavemaster" to lure women to their deaths. MSNBC June 7 A serial murder suspect who police believe went by the alias "slavemaster" on Internet chat rooms might also have posted and sold sadomasochistic photos online of women, an investigator told MSNBC.com. In addition, James Edward Robinson Sr. might be connected to an SM Web site and police computer experts are investigating those and other Internet leads, Lenexa police captain John Meier said. Two women claimed Robinson sexually assaulted them, which led to the discovery of the bodies of two other women buried in 55-gallon drums on his property. POLICE ARE focusing on the chat room leads, Meier said, but the possibility exists that Robinson, who also went by the name James Turner, sold SM photos online and frequented SM Web sites. MSNBC.com found the name "J. Turner" on one such Web site, and Meier said there's a good chance that belongs to Robinson. Robinson is not talking, however, and identifying the five bodies found on his property will be "extremely difficult," Meier said in earlier comments to NBC's "Today" show. Authorities were also continuing the search for more bodies, draining a pond on land owned by Robinson. He is being held on $5 million bond on charges he sexually assaulted two women and is expected to be charged in the murders by week's end. DIFFICULTY IN NAMING VICTIMS Advertisement One victim was identified by The Kansas City Star as Suzette Trouten, 28, who had recently moved to the Kansas City area from Monroe County, Mich. But Meier said that identifying the other victims would be "extremely difficult" due to the state of the bodies and the probability that the women came from different parts of the country. The bodies of two women were found Saturday stuffed in barrels on rural property in La Cygne, Kan., belonging to Robinson. The bodies of three other women were found Monday in 55-gallon drums in a storage locker Robinson rented 30 miles away in Raymore, Mo. Autopsies showed the victims died of blunt trauma to the head, authorities said. Investigators searching for more victims began draining a pond on Robinson's property Tuesday afternoon and were to resume Wednesday. BACKGROUND TO CASE The case began three months ago as a missing persons investigation. It gained momentum after two women came forward to accuse Robinson, 56, of sexual assault. MSNBC Cable coverage Watch MSNBC Cable for coverage of this and other stories He was arrested last Friday and charged with sexually assaulting the women, whom he met on the Internet and with whom he agreed to have sadomasochistic sex. The two women told authorities they objected to Robinson photographing them in sexual poses and said he brutalized them in a way that went beyond what they intended. One of the women had traveled from Texas to have a sexual encounter with Robinson in April. Robinson was arrested at his home at a mobile home park in Olathe, Kan., managed by his wife. Dozens of photographs of women and computer equipment were confiscated and his arrest led to the discoveries of two bodies the next day. Crime PunishmentComplete coverage from MSNBC.comAdd to your list of bookmarked sites The bodies found near La Cygne
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
On the money. There seems to be an innate need on the part of our species, and the species closest to us, to *worship* forces we don't understand...and even forces we *do* understand or think we understand, such as the "market." Leaving aside legitimate theological considerations as not germane to either the list or the thread, I think it's safe to say that the ultra/infra/metaterrestrials are no less and no more "natural" than us hoomin beans. They are *there*, they exist, they have abilities we don't have. The image-projection ability I have postulated is a logical one, either for a predator or for prey. There is some evidence that the human telepathic ability was once much more common, especially among our hunting ancestors; I am convinced on the basis of personal observation that cats and dogs retain this ability. "Throwing a glamour" over one's prey is no less out of the question than is the idea of a duck hunter camouflaging his blind and using a duck call and decoys to attract his "victims." Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why does time seem altered for those they have captured? - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:) [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and accepted. Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different, that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power we don't have, that doesn't make them our superiors. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/2607_xcsof_cash_regis.shtml 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing Li Ka-Shing is no ordinary billionaire. Mr. Li's company currently operates the two ports on the Panama Canal, the Pacific port of Balboa and the Atlantic port of Cristobal. According to recently declassified documents from the U.S. Commerce Department, Li Ka-Shing is a very special man in Beijing, Washington and Hong Kong. "Li is reputed to have a close business relationship with key figures in Beijing," states an August 1999 from the American Embassy in Hong Kong. "And he has a number of real estate and infrastructure projects in the mainland. These close relationships were said to be key to his obtaining the prime site on Beijing's Wangfujing for his USD2 billion Oriental Plaza Project. Some have suggested that it was because of Li's mainland connections that the man behind the 1996 kidnapping of his son Victor was arrested last year in China and swiftly executed. Li is a leading member of Hong Kong's ethnic Chinese business elite, a tycoon who is no democrat. This fact is reflected in his recent claim that he canceled a HKD10 billion (USD1.3 billion) project because of the unfavorable business climate created by Hong Kong's politicized (more democratic) business climate." The Commerce Department documents also show that law enforcement agencies were very concerned about Li Ka-Shing's connections to the Triad gangs. A 1995 cable from the American Embassy in Nassau noted that Li Ka-Shing had signed an agreement to build an $88 million container ship terminal in the Grand Bahamas. Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong tycoon, the copy list for the cable is addressed to several law enforcement agencies such as the Customs Service and the Drug Enforcement Agency. "Reftel describes U.S. agencies' security concerns about possible smuggling attempts through the terminal," states the cable from the American Embassy. "Post will request via septel assistance in addressing these concerns while port development plans are still on the drawing board." One document on Li Ka-Shing, previously discovered by Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch, a Washington, D.C.-based legal watchdog group, came from the U.S. Defense Department. According to the October 1999 "Intelligence Assessment," prepared by the U.S. military Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a "threat" to the Panama Canal: "Hutchison Whampoa's owner, Hong Kong tycoon, Li Ka-Shing, has extensive business ties in Beijing and has compelling financial reasons to maintain a good relationship with China's leadership," states the 1999 assessment. "For example, Hutchison Whampoa could threaten to shift some business from Panama to its facilities in the Bahamas, thus giving the company additional leverage over the Panamanian government." The U.S. military intelligence report concluded: "Hutchison's containerized shipping facilities in the Panama Canal, as well as the Bahamas, could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited items from the west to the PRC, or facilitate the movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas." However, the newly released documents from the Commerce Department show that current Commerce Secretary Daley met with the Beijing tycoon at a 1997 luncheon hosted by the powerful investment firm Goldman Sachs. The Commerce documents note that an informal "talk" between Daley, Mr. Li and several "influential business people" was held on the Goldman Sachs' boat "Monkey's Uncle" during a 1997 Hong Kong trade trip. "Goldman Sachs' boat ('Monkey's Uncle') will depart from
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clearly the most sensible approach. Just because somebody is different, that doesn't make them better or worse. Just because somebody has a power we don't have, that doesn't make them our superiors. The problem is, nowadays we have a movement afoot where these beings -- no better or worse than ourselves -- are now presented as being somehow morally and spiritually superior to ourselves solely because of their difference from us...and therefore warrant us giving up our individuality and sovereignty to these beings, because 'they know better'... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Slavemaster' murder case widens
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intent of sending this is beware of Predators on the Web who would talk pillow talk. Don't worry...the LAST person from the Internet I'd consider meeting in person is someone into SM who goes by the moniker 'slavemaster'... As much as I hate when people blame the victims, I really have to wonder what was going through the minds of all these women when they agreed to meet this guy, especially to travel to another state to meet him... It will be interesting to see who and what in particular, this Robinson is. Did he prey upon women who had money? Beware of any discussions where information is gleaned from little clues - for instance, a widow might have her own home, or a young divorcee might have her own home and out there are predators ready to pounce. My guess is that it will be found that most of the women had no family, or little contact with their family. In other words, they were basically on their own. That explains why all these women could go missing, and no one seems to have noticed. Or if it WAS noticed, anyone back home who cared enough to file a missing persons report had no idea their relative or friend had travelled out of state to meet someone they'd met in a SM chatroom... The worst conspiracy of all now going on in this country according to a close friend, is predators pouncing on the elderly with funds in banks and property. A frog he would a wooing go. This doesn't sound like that sort of case, altho it probably wouldn't have hurt (no pun intended) if his intended victims had some discretionary funds they could be convinced to bring with them to the intended rendezvous site. Sounds like these were younger women, and that this guy was more a sexual predator than a con artist after their money... I carefully avoid anything that asks about income, for this is now how these people work collecting financial intelligence first. Same here. In fact, anything on the net that asks for age, education, income, I deliberately lie...to present myself as the least desirable 'demographic' possible... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why does time seem altered for those they have captured? Perhaps the time alteration is due to their interdimensionality...the 'space' they inhabit is doesn't intersect, or only intersects at one finite point, with our 'time-space continuum'... As to WHY they wish to attract and capture us...well, humanity has basically debated that question for millenia (if we accept that what humanity has in the past labeled 'angels', 'demons', 'faieries', 'devas', 'wee folk', etc. are now called 'aliens')... Why did faieries abduct humans in the past (if there is any basis to old folk tales?)? Why are angels and demons concerned with us? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS [Monsanto/Cow's Milk]
THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS MILK IS NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD FOR HUMANS *Note from Sender: It is of utmost importance that you go to: http://www.notmilk.com/ where the Milk Conspiracy is exposed. *CLINTON LIE causes disease and suffering . http://www.notmilk.com/impeach.html Historically, the greatest myths are the most difficult to dislodge from the collective psyche. Those who dispel myths are first labeled as fanatics. Throughout history, custom has rejected truth and punished visionaries. Schoepenhouer wrote: "All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self evident." THE WORLD IS FLAT In the year 1500, Christopher Columbus was thrown into chains for having proven to mankind that the world was not flat, thereby dispelling the greatest scientific and cultural myth of the second millennium. In between his third and fourth voyages to the New World, Columbus brought back a number of gifts to the Old World. Christopher Columbus had become a slave dealer, but his best known gift to Europe may very well have been disease called morbus gallicus, which infected millions. After much of Europe was overwhelmed, the affliction was renamed after a shepherd from Greek mythology who angered Apollo by not worshipping the gods. Apollo infected the air with noxious vapors and the shepherd broke out in ulcerous eruptions all over his body. The shepherd's name was Syphilis. Many of Columbus's doubters went to their deathbeds still believing that the world was flat. To this day, there are still people who believe that same myth: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH Galileo had turned his attention to a new frontier, the heavens, and in doing so, angered religious leaders. By placing lenses inside of a tube, Galileo's primitive telescope allowed him to discover four moons revolving around the planet Jupiter. His invention was destroyed and Galileo imprisoned. Man's laws gave this fanatic and visionary two choices: remain in prison or recant his discovery and previous testimony. Galileo had no choice but to exist in a world in which his truth became a threat to the men of his time. Dispelling myths has always been dangerous to one's health. Those who lead are often compared to Cervante's Don Quixote, who tilted at windmills. TRUTH'S THREE STAGES The NOTMILK.COM Website is a dispellers of America's greatest myth. Those who strongly endorse drinking body fluids from cows are the ones who most adamantly attack the author of those sites. Ridicule and sarcasm pepper some of the more creative letters posted to the two guestbooks. Among the more than 1,300 letters are death threats and anti-Semitic comments that would make Hitler proud. Schoepenhouer's formula applies to the Dairy Education Board and the NOTMILK movement. Denial + Violent Opposition = Truth All truth must suffer the same indignity by skeptics who resist change, desiring to kill the messenger during their learning process. HOW DO MYTHS CONTINUE? The dairy industry recognizes that if mothers drink milk at home, then so will their children. Next year's advertising will target at-home moms. Just as their parents urged them to drink milk when they were youngsters, so will today's parents do the same to their kids. The dairy industry constantly markets and promotes their product with hundreds of millions of advertising dollars. THE EXPERT'S OPINIONS Out of the mouths of babes often come pearls of wisdom; out of the mouths of those who we respect often come the vilest of lies and the most myopic conjectures leaving mankind far from the truth. Here is a list of eight of my favorite bloopers, as told by people society believed and trusted. I reserved the number one myth and betrayal for the last. 1) "Everything that can be invented has been invented." Charles Duell, Commissioner of the U.S. Patent Office, advised President McKinley to close that office in 1899 - 2) "That's an amazing invention, but who would ever want to use one of them?" President Rutherford B. Hayes after trying the first telephone in a hook-up between Washington and Philadelphia - 3) "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh only 1 1/2 tons." POPULAR MECHANICS magazine, March, 1949 - 4) "The seat of the soul and the control of voluntary movement-in fact, of nervous functions in general, are to be sought in the heart. The brain is an organ of minor importance. Aristotle, 400 B.C. - 5) "Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation. So let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough
[CTRL] BIOTECH IN TROUBLE
BIOTECH IN TROUBLE The agricultural biotechnology industry's situation is desperate and deteriorating. To be sure, genetically engineered (GE) food is still selling briskly on grocery shelves in the U.S. but probably only because GE products are not labeled, so consumers have no idea what they're buying. At present, an estimated 2/3rds of all products for sale in U.S. grocery stores contain genetically engineered (GE) crops, none of which are labeled as such.[1] However, polls show that U.S. consumers overwhelmingly want GE foods labeled. In a TIME magazine poll in January, 1999, 81 percent of respondents said genetically engineered foods should be labeled.[2] A month earlier, a poll of U.S. consumers by the Swiss drug firm Novartis had found that more than 90% of the public wants labeling.[3] The NEW YORK TIMES reported late last year that a "biotech industry poll" showed that 93% of Americans want genetically engineered foods labeled.[4] Legislation requiring labels on GE foods was introduced into Congress last November by a bi-partisan group of 20 legislators.[5] For five years the GE food industry has been saying GE foods couldn't be labeled because it would require segregating GE from non-GE crops -- a practical impossibility, they said. However, in December, 1999, Monsanto announced that it had developed a new strain of rapeseed (a crop used to make canola cooking oil) that might raise the levels of vitamin A in humans.[6] How could consumers identify (and pay a premium price for) such a product if it weren't labeled? Obviously labeling will become possible -- indeed, essential -- when it serves the interests of the biotech corporations. Many food suppliers seem to have figured out for themselves how to segregate GE crops from non-GE. According to the NEW YORK TIMES, Kellogg's, Kraft Foods, McDonald's, Nestle USA, and Quaker Oats all sell gene-altered foods in the U.S. but not overseas.[7] Gerber and H.J. Heinz announced some time ago that they have managed to exclude genetically modified crops from their baby foods. For its part, the U.S. government has steadfastly maintained that labeling of GE foods is not necessary -- and might even be misleading -- because traditional crops and GE crops are "substantially equivalent." For example, the government has maintained that Monsanto's "New Leaf" potato -- which has been genetically engineered to incorporate a pesticide into every cell in the potato, to kill potato beetles -- is substantially equivalent to normal potatoes, even though the New Leaf potato is, itself, required to be registered as a pesticide with U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). (See REHW #622.) Now the government's position has become untenable. In February of this year, the government signed the international BioSafety Protocol, a treaty with 130 other nations, in which all signatories agree that genetically modified crops are significantly different from traditional crops. Thus with the swipe of a pen, the U.S. government has now formally acknowledged that GE crops are not "substantially equivalent" to traditional crops. Meanwhile, a groundswell of consumer protest reached a crescendo last year in England and Europe, then spread to Japan and the U.S. where it has severely eroded investor confidence in the industry. Major U.S. firms that had invested heavily in the technology are now being forced to pull back. As we reported earlier (REHW #685), Monsanto, Novartis, and AstraZeneca all announced in early January that they are turning away from -- or abandoning entirely -- the concept of "life sciences" -- a business model that combines pharmaceuticals and agricultural products. The NEW YORK TIMES reported in January that American Home Products -- a pharmaceutical giant -- "has been looking for a way to unload its agricultural operations." At that time the TIMES also said, "Analysts have speculated that Monsanto will eventually shed its entire agricultural operation."[8] In late February, DuPont announced that it was returning to its traditional industrial chemical business to generate profits. The WALL STREET JOURNAL said February 23, "But the big plans DuPont announced for its pharmaceuticals and biotech divisions fizzled as consolidation changed the landscape, and investor enthusiasm cooled in the face of controversy over genetically engineered crops."[9] Investors are not the only ones turning away from genetically engineered foods. The WALL STREET JOURNAL announced in late April that "fast-food chains such as McDonald's Corp. are quietly telling their french-fry suppliers to stop using" Monsanto's pesticidal New Leaf potato. "Virtually all the [fast food] chains have told us they prefer to take nongenetically modified potatoes," said a spokesperson for the J.M. Simplot Company of Boise, Idaho, a major potato supplier.[10] The JOURNAL also reported that Procter and Gamble, maker of Pringles potato chips, is phasing out Monsanto's pesticidal potato. And Frito-Lay --
[CTRL] DRUDGE: Details too hot, even for the web.
TALK/MIRAMAX AUTHOR TAGGED STARR STAFFERS 'FAGS AND FAGGOTS'; BOOK PROJECT EXPLORES SEX LIVES OF TINA BROWN'S OWN 'FRIENDS' **Exclusive** "This guy John Connolly kept using the term 'fags' and 'faggots' when he asked me about lawyers who worked for Ken Starr and others in Washington." That is the shocking charge by former congressional investigator Dave Bossie against author John Connolly -- an author who is writing a book financed by DISNEY! [NYSE:DIS] "Connolly then spread around town that I was gay because I volunteer for a local Fire Department," laughs Bossie. "This is crazy. I am surprised that Tina Brown is financing this." The DRUDGE REPORT obtained a working manuscript of a book commissioned by DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX. In Chapter 5 of the work, titled 'And The Band Played On', Connolly claims that former Independent Counsel Ken Starr was blackmailed by political operatives. Connolly describes Starr as being a "disturbed housewife in a 'B' movie". It can now be revealed that the book not only digs deep into the private sex lives and business dealings of major and minor Clinton critics, but Connolly's working manuscript also features derogatory sex slurs against impeachment players! Details too hot, even for the web. "Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people who were behind the Lewinsky case," writes author John Connolly, in a working introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE. "Why, Tina? Why?" demanded a supporter and close friend of TALK editoress Tina Brown after learning he was a subject. Best-selling author Chris Buckley [son of William F. Buckley] expressed complete outrage that his sex life is being explored. "Tina appears to be throwing her friends out with the bath water," said a publishing source who worked with both Brown and Buckley at the NEW YORKER. Author John Connolly's claims to have unearthed an affair between Buckley and a major Lewinsky player. When contacted this week, both parties called the claim outrageous and false. The TALK project even explores fellow DISNEY employees, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. ABC NEWS reporter Jackie Judd and her producer Chris Vlasto, among others, come under the microscope. TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed earlier this week that Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE and the author has received a cash advance, but Burnham cautioned that "no decisions have been made" about the book's eventual content. Tina Brown and Harvey Weinstein, her main partner in the firm and the chairman of Miramax Films, are friends of the Clintons. Brown and Weinstein have both contributed maximum cash donations permitted by law to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign. Brown was a recent guest at a White House dinner, records show. --- Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2000 http://www.drudgereport.com/mat59.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UNDERGROUND TUNNELS__GIF image 679x480 pi
--- "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicky, is there a web address for this picture, for those who don't download from emails? Samantha, download it onto a FLOPPY, run your virus checker on the floppy, and then open the file. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Shipboard Abortions Planned For 3rd World Women
--- Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top News Headlines June 6, 2000 -- 8:56 PM Shipboard Abortions Planned For Third World Women AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CNSNews) -- Pregnant women in mostly Third World nations where abortions are illegal will be offered abortions onboard a ship sailing outside those countries' territorial waters, if a Dutch doctor has her way. Yep, can't have those 3rd world pickaninnies using up resources that rightly belong to superior peoples like Dutch doctors. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nato 'deliberately attacked civilians in Serbia'
[A better heading: "Amnesty International v. the International War Crimes Tribunal" (But, hey, isn't Clinton above the law?). Besides, this is old news...at least it is here on CTRL. --MS] From Independent News, UK Nato 'deliberately attacked civilians in Serbia' By Robert Fisk 7 June 2000 Only five days after Nato was "exonerated" by the International War Crimes Tribunal for its killing of civilians in Yugoslavia last year, Amnesty International today publishes a blistering attack on the Alliance, accusing it of committing serious violations of the rules of war, unlawful killings and in the case of the bombing of Serbia's television headquarters a war crime. The 65-page Amnesty report details a number of mass killings of civilians in Nato raids and states that "civilian deaths could have been significantly reduced if Nato forces had fully adhered to the rules of war". Legalistic in nature but damning in content the document reminds readers that Amnesty repeatedly condemned Serb atrocities against Kosovo Albanians the report highlights inconsistencies and obfuscation by Nato's official spokesmen. Although Nato told Amnesty that pilots operated under "strict Rules of Engagement", it refused to disclose details of the "rules" or the principles underlying them. The report says: "They did not answer specific questions Amnesty International raised about specific incidents ..." Amnesty records that Nato aircraft flew 10,484 strike missions over Serbia and that Serbian statistics of civilian deaths in Nato raids range from 400-600 up to 1,500. It specifically condemns Nato for an attack on a bridge at Varvarin on 30 May last year, which killed at least 11 civilians. "Nato forces failed to suspend their attack after it was evident that they had struck civilians," Amnesty says. When it attacked convoys of Albanian refugees near Djakovica on 14 April and in Korisa on 13 May, "Nato failed to take necessary precautions to minimise civilian casualties". The report says Nato repeatedly gave priority to pilots' safety at the cost of civilian lives. In several investigations of civilian deaths, Amnesty quotes from reports in The Independent, including an investigation into the bombing of a hospital at Surdulica on 31 May. The Independent disclosed in November that Serb soldiers were sheltering on the ground floor of the hospital when it was bombed but that all the casualties were civilian refugees living on the upper floors. Amnesty says: "If Nato intentionally bombed the hospital complex because it believed it was housing soldiers, it may well have violated the laws of war. According to Article 50(3) of Protocol 1, [of the Geneva Conventions] 'the presence within the civilian population of individuals who do not come within the definition of civilians does not deprive the population of its civilian character'. "The hospital complex was clearly a civilian object with a large civilian population, the presence of soldiers would not have deprived the civilians or the hospital compound of their protected status." Some of Amnesty's harshest criticism is directed at the 23 April bombing of Serb television headquarters. "General Wesley Clark has stated, 'We knew when we struck that there would be alternate means of getting the Serb Television. There's no single switch to turn off everything but we thought it was a good move to strike it, and the political leadership agreed with us.' "In other words, Nato deliberately attacked a civilian object, killing 16 civilians, for the purpose of disrupting Serb television broadcasts in the middle of the night for approximately three hours. It is hard to see how this can be consistent with the rule of proportionality." On 17 May last year, Nato's secretary general, Javier Solana, wrote to Amnesty in response to its "grave concern" over the TV bombing, stating that RTS (Serb Radio and Television) facilities "are being used as radio relay stations and transmitters to support the activities of the ... military and special police forces, and therefore they represent legitimate military targets". But at a meeting with Nato officials in Brussels early this year Amnesty was informed that Mr Solana's reference "was to other attacks on RTS infrastructure and not this particular attack on RTS headquarters." The US Defense Department, Amnesty recalls, justified the television station bombing because it was "a facility used for propaganda purposes" and Amnesty itself says that Tony Blair "appeared to be hinting [in a subsequent BBC documentary] that one of the reasons that the station was targeted was because its video footage of the human toll of Nato mistakes ... was being re-broadcast by Western media outlets and was thereby undermining support for the war within the alliance". Of the Nato destruction of the train at Gurdulica bridge on 12 April, Amnesty says: "Nato's explanation of the bombing particularly General Clark's account of the pilot's rationale for
[CTRL] 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing
From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/2607_xcsof_cash_regis.shtml 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing Li Ka-Shing is no ordinary billionaire. Mr. Li's company currently operates the two ports on the Panama Canal, the Pacific port of Balboa and the Atlantic port of Cristobal. According to recently declassified documents from the U.S. Commerce Department, Li Ka-Shing is a very special man in Beijing, Washington and Hong Kong. "Li is reputed to have a close business relationship with key figures in Beijing," states an August 1999 from the American Embassy in Hong Kong. "And he has a number of real estate and infrastructure projects in the mainland. These close relationships were said to be key to his obtaining the prime site on Beijing's Wangfujing for his USD2 billion Oriental Plaza Project. Some have suggested that it was because of Li's mainland connections that the man behind the 1996 kidnapping of his son Victor was arrested last year in China and swiftly executed. Li is a leading member of Hong Kong's ethnic Chinese business elite, a tycoon who is no democrat. This fact is reflected in his recent claim that he canceled a HKD10 billion (USD1.3 billion) project because of the unfavorable business climate created by Hong Kong's politicized (more democratic) business climate." The Commerce Department documents also show that law enforcement agencies were very concerned about Li Ka-Shing's connections to the Triad gangs. A 1995 cable from the American Embassy in Nassau noted that Li Ka-Shing had signed an agreement to build an $88 million container ship terminal in the Grand Bahamas. Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong tycoon, the copy list for the cable is addressed to several law enforcement agencies such as the Customs Service and the Drug Enforcement Agency. "Reftel describes U.S. agencies' security concerns about possible smuggling attempts through the terminal," states the cable from the American Embassy. "Post will request via septel assistance in addressing these concerns while port development plans are still on the drawing board." One document on Li Ka-Shing, previously discovered by Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch, a Washington, D.C.-based legal watchdog group, came from the U.S. Defense Department. According to the October 1999 "Intelligence Assessment," prepared by the U.S. military Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a "threat" to the Panama Canal: "Hutchison Whampoa's owner, Hong Kong tycoon, Li Ka-Shing, has extensive business ties in Beijing and has compelling financial reasons to maintain a good relationship with China's leadership," states the 1999 assessment. "For example, Hutchison Whampoa could threaten to shift some business from Panama to its facilities in the Bahamas, thus giving the company additional leverage over the Panamanian government." The U.S. military intelligence report concluded: "Hutchison's containerized shipping facilities in the Panama Canal, as well as the Bahamas, could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited items from the west to the PRC, or facilitate the movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas." However, the newly released documents from the Commerce Department show that current Commerce Secretary Daley met with the Beijing tycoon at a 1997 luncheon hosted by the powerful investment firm Goldman Sachs. The Commerce documents note that an informal "talk" between Daley, Mr. Li and several "influential business people" was held on the Goldman Sachs' boat "Monkey's Uncle" during a 1997 Hong Kong trade trip. "Goldman Sachs' boat ('Monkey's Uncle') will depart
[CTRL] Australian Gun Ban Results: Deadly!
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Wednesday June 7, 2000 12:55 AM EST Australian Gun Ban Results: Deadly! Just over a year ago, Australia followed in the footsteps of mother country Great Britain and made law a total ban on hand guns. The gun ban and confiscation program cost the Australian government more than $500 million. Sometimes using deadly force, authorities there collected 640,381 personal firearms. And now the results are in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent (in a country that has a low homicide rate). Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent). In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent. Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms - since the gun ban this has changed for the worse. There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults on the elderly. Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns." An e-mail circulating the Web reveals the harmful effects of the Australian gun ban, noting that "you won't see this data on the evening news or hear your governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information." Another Australian offers a warning: "Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens. Take note, Californians and other Americans, before it's too late!" = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hazel O'Leary was FBI target
CHINAGATE Hazel O'Leary was FBI target Freeh urged Reno to name independent counsel over bribe By Paul Sperry © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- When Attorney General Janet Reno dropped her investigation of former Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary for allegedly taking a bribe, she did so over the advice of her FBI chief, a long-secret memo reveals. Johnny Chung, a '96 Clinton-Gore campaign donor, charged in the summer of 1997 that O'Leary agreed to meet with communist Chinese oil officials after he donated $25,000 to her favorite charity, Africare. "It is clear that the donation was made under extraordinarily suspicious circumstances that are worthy of additional investigation," FBI Director Louis Freeh said in a Nov. 24, 1997, memo to Reno. The memo, sought by Congress for years, was released yesterday by a House panel probing a possible Justice Department cover-up of the Chinagate scandal. On Oct. 17, 1995, Chung met with Democratic National Committee officials who put him in touch with Corlis Moody, an O'Leary aide. Moody arranged the money-for-meeting deal, Chung says, during a meeting in her Energy office in Washington. The next day, Moody faxed him a letter signed by O'Leary inviting the Chinese officials to meet with her the next day. About 90 minutes later, Moody sent an Energy employee to Chung's Washington apartment to pick up the $25,000 check, made out to Africare. On Oct. 19, 1995, Chung and his Chinese delegation of 12 SINOPEC officials got their meeting with O'Leary in a conference room in her Energy office suite. It lasted about an hour. That night, after a tour of the White House, they met President Clinton at a dinner benefit for Africare. "The meetings at the Department of Energy and Africare event show substantial involvement by DNC officials, including Richard Sullivan and Don Fowler," Freeh wrote in his 27-page memo. "Consequently, these events should be further investigated by an independent counsel." His memo was written a week before Reno announced her decision not to seek the appointment of an independent counsel in the case. "I have determined that there are no reasonable grounds to believe that further investigation of Mrs. O'Leary is warranted," she said on Dec. 2, 1997. Reno argued that there was no proof that O'Leary knew of the meeting between her aide and Chung. Also, she said the letter to the Chinese officials was signed by "autopen," not hand, making it hard to prove "O'Leary had any knowledge of these letters." But in arguing that, Chung says Reno ignored information he gave FBI agents who interviewed him. He says that Moody told him on Oct. 18, 1995, that O'Leary signed the letter. "I got her to sign it and we are going to fax it over to you," Chung recalled Moody saying. Also, he says Moody wanted to set up the meeting with O'Leary after they met in her office on Oct. 17. But Chung says she told him that O'Leary had gone home for the night and that they'd have to set it up in the morning. What's more, Chung says O'Leary came over to his table at the Africare benefit and thanked him for his $25,000 check. O'Leary, who resigned in early 1997, has denied Chung's charges of a quid pro quo, saying the meeting with the Chinese party was within the normal course of her official duties. Chung, who pleaded guilty to violating campaign finance laws and cooperated fully with the FBI, insists he bought political access to O'Leary on behalf of his Chinese benefactors. "I gave $25,000 and I got the meeting. That's why they need an independent counsel" to investigate O'Leary, he said in a phone interview from his Los Angeles office. Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available
Re: [CTRL] THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS [Monsanto/Cow's Milk]
--- Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE AGE OF DISCOVERY DISPELLING MYTHS MILK IS NATURE'S PERFECT FOOD FOR HUMANS *Note from Sender: It is of utmost importance that you go to: http://www.notmilk.com/ where the Milk Conspiracy is exposed. This link should be given to every pregnant woman, along with this one: http://www.lalecheleague.org La Leche League is a mother-to-mother breastfeeding support organization. Cows' milk is the perfect food--for calves. Human breast milk is the superior food for human infants. Tenorlove who once absent-mindedly picked up someone else's crying baby at a church supper was about to nurse when it was pointed out to me that I had the wrong baby, my own baby sleeping peacefully in an identical car seat. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [GCFL] Some Douglas Adams Trinkets
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com [ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. " "The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't." "Time, we know, is relative. You can travel light years through the stars and back, and if you do it at the speed of light then, when you return, you may have aged mere seconds while your twin brother or sister will have aged twenty, thirty, forty or however many years it is, depending on how far you traveled. This will come to you as a profound shock, particularly if you didn't know you had a twin brother or sister." "[His] study was a total mess, like the results of an explosion in a public library." "There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers exactly what the Universe if for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another which states that this has already happened." "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen." "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." "I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it." "If human beings don't keep exercising their lips, he thought, their mouths probably seize up. After a few months' consideration and observation he abandoned this theory in favor of a new one. If they don't keep on exercising their lips, he thought, their brains start working." "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." "You live and learn. At any rate, you live." Received from Leon Taylor. -=+=- Remember when the funniest jokes were the clean ones? They still are! The Good, Clean Funnies List: Good, clean funnies five times a week, FOR FREE! For subscription and other information, go to our web page at http://www.gcfl.net, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A cheerful heart is good medicine... (Prov 17:22a) Today's GCFL is online at http://www.gcfl.net/archive/2607.html -- To be removed from this list, go to http://www.gcfl.net/cgi-bin/gcflweb.cgi?remove or send e-mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' with 'remove' in the subject.
[CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 17:38:45 +0200 From: Hebron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: News from Hebron:Open letter to Ehud Barak News from Hebron The Hebron Press Office June 7, 2000 THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF HEBRON / THE HEBRON FUND WISH ALL OUR FRIENDS A CHAG SHAVUOTH SAMEACH! ** The following letter appears in this week's Jewish Press and will appear in tomorrow's Jerusalem Post and Ha'aretz (English edition) newspapers: June 5, 2000 Honorable Prime Minister Ehud Barak Prime Minister's Office 3 Kaplan Street POB 187 Kiryat Ben Gurion Jerusalem 91919, Israel Dear Mr. Barak, When the Jews of Russia faced persecution, we stood with them. When the Jews of Iran faced annihilation, we stood for them. When the Jews of Entebbe faced death, we ran to them. When the Jews of Ethiopia faced extinction, we brought them home. When the Jews of Israel faced Iraqi scuds, we stood by them. We cannot remain silent as Jewish communities in Israel are at risk of being abandoned. Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their freedom, their confidence, and their future. The memories of our forefathers, of every victim of terror and of every soldier who died defending our dream face the prospect of being dishonored even before the tears that mourn their sacrifice have dried. When we reclaimed our G-d given land, we did so for eternity. No one has license to surrender those borders, thus endangering our people. No mortal was granted the right to alter biblical prophecies and obliterate G-d's promise to our forefathers. To remain on our land while being encircled by those who vow to drive us into the sea, provides no security. To abandon our land for a "promise" that we won't be attacked in the future, provides no future. Let our enemies hold on to their promises. We will hold on to our homes. Mr. Barak, every leader leaves a legacy. Yours is becoming clear, even in your lifetime. For years you have been known as a hero willing to sacrifice anything to ensure the safety, security and future of Israel. Do not risk forever being known in Heaven and Earth as a Jew who lost that perspective, and destroyed more with the stroke of a pen than our enemies destroyed with their stones. Respectfully yours, David Seidermann President The Hebron Fund New York, USA Sponsered by the Hebron Fund/The Jewish Community of Hebron 1760 Ocean Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11230. Tel: 718-677-6886 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.hebron.org.il = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drudge: Clown Posse: more...
X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDNESDAY JUNE 07 2000 10:32:17 ET X TALK/MIRAMAX AUTHOR TAGGED STARR STAFFERS 'FAGS AND FAGGOTS'; BOOK PROJECT EXPLORES SEX LIVES OF TINA BROWN'S OWN 'FRIENDS' **Exclusive** "This guy John Connolly kept using the term 'fags' and 'faggots' when he asked me about lawyers who worked for Ken Starr and others in Washington." That is the shocking charge by former congressional investigator Dave Bossie against author John Connolly -- an author who is writing a book financed by DISNEY! [NYSE:DIS] "Connolly then spread around town that I was gay because I volunteer for a local Fire Department," laughs Bossie. "This is crazy. I am surprised that Tina Brown is financing this." The DRUDGE REPORT obtained a working manuscript of a book commissioned by DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX. In Chapter 5 of the work, titled 'And The Band Played On', Connolly claims that former Independent Counsel Ken Starr was blackmailed by political operatives. Connolly describes Starr as being a "disturbed housewife in a 'B' movie". It can now be revealed that the book not only digs deep into the private sex lives and business dealings of major and minor Clinton critics, but Connolly's working manuscript also features derogatory sex slurs against impeachment players! Details too hot, even for the web. "Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people who were behind the Lewinsky case," writes author John Connolly, in a working introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE. "Why, Tina? Why?" demanded a supporter and close friend of TALK editoress Tina Brown after learning he was a subject. Best-selling author Chris Buckley [son of William F. Buckley] expressed complete outrage that his sex life is being explored. "Tina appears to be throwing her friends out with the bath water," said a publishing source who worked with both Brown and Buckley at the NEW YORKER. Author John Connolly's claims to have unearthed an affair between Buckley and a major Lewinsky player. When contacted this week, both parties called the claim outrageous and false. The TALK project even explores fellow DISNEY employees, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. ABC NEWS reporter Jackie Judd and her producer Chris Vlasto, among others, come under the microscope. TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed earlier this week that Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE and the author has received a cash advance, but Burnham cautioned that "no decisions have been made" about the book's eventual content. Tina Brown and Harvey Weinstein, her main partner in the firm and the chairman of Miramax Films, are friends of the Clintons. Brown and Weinstein have both contributed maximum cash donations permitted by law to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign. Brown was a recent guest at a White House dinner, records show. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SEE WHO BOUGHT AND OWN$ WHICH CANDIDATE$!
For the first time ever, browse and search an Internet accessible database of Federal lobby reports and registrations filed by organizations, corporations, associations, unions, lobby firms and lobbyists. This new feature is available for FREE to all current FECInfoPro subscribers. The June 1st Download From The FEC Is On-Line! http://www.tray.com/ --- "Oh, my countrymen! What will our children say, when they read the history of these times? Should they find we tamely gave away without one noble struggle, the most invaluable of earthly blessings? As they drag the galling chain, will they not execrate us? If we have any respect for things sacred; any regard to the dearest treasures on earth; if we have one tender sentiment for posterity; if we would not be despised by the whole world - let us in the most open, solemn manner, and with determined fortitude, swear we will die, if we cannot live free men!" Josiah Quincy, Jr., 1788 published in the Boston Gazette Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm To support Mr. Buchanan in the White House we must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives who will: Restore the United States to "One Nation Under God" Return to Constitutional, Limited Government Protect the Inalienable Right to Life of All, including the Unborn and Infirm Protect Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms Restore National Sovereignty, including Withdrawal from the U.N. Maintain a Strong National Defense Repeal the Unconstitutional Income Tax Stop All Unconstitutional Spending Protect the Inalienable Rights of Liberty and Private Property Abolish the Federal Reserve and Restore Constitutional Money Promote Pro-family policies End Federal Subsidies for and Control of Education and Welfare Comprehensive Immigration Reform Return Control over Elections to the People Abolish Special Interest Entitlements (corporate welfare) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] -- remote viewing --
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MC] -- remote viewing -- Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 9:41 AM In a message dated 5/26/00 8:21:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard Blum's "Out There: The Government's Secret Quest For Extra-Terrestrials" Blum is one of those journalists who use "leaks" from covert sources and implies that he's getting a scoop. If you've ever had a top secret clearance (like I had) you don't talk about secrets. Period. Blum is either naive or thinks his readers are. These "leaks" are obvious media manipulation. I've worked both sides of the fence (publicist and journalist) and in my own experience, many journalists are easily manipulated. Thus the MJ-12 disinfo in the book from an alleged NSA source, an apparent cover story (for what--black surveillance projects, mind control ops?). - - - - + [Farley / [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I concur with Wes here. As it was widely reported that Blum's "source" was Col. John Alexander, at a time when Alexander was still working at Los Alamos when he was heading up an R D program to think about and develop "non-lethal weapons" for envisioned "low-intensity conflicts," nothing Alexander (a former senior officer in the Army Intelligence and Security Command, INSCOM, and before that a Special Forces officer who was highly decorated for his service in Vietnam, etc.) would say to a purported "journalist" like Blum would be anything OTHER than disinformation. Also, be aware that journalists who work into high levels of access to major news outlets (NY Times, Wash. Post, CNN, networks) would not be there if they hadn't come to terms with the realities of what they can say, what they can ask, and who it is that they really work for. Some things just can't be allowed to "be true," and the reporters who don't accept that don't get to play at the uppermost levels. They are, after all, just the "talking heads" and pretty faces representing a world view of ??? Specific writers who have made decisions to support (or are active players) in some of the magnificent disinformation initiatives of recent times (about these topics) are: William J. Broad, NY TIMES, who did the piece on "CIA says 'UFOs' were us." ('95) Mike Wallace, 60 MINUTES who with producer Don Hewitt is a "navy intell asset." Larry King, CNN (his "handlers" are his producers bookers, as in his "Larry King Live from Area 51 "UFO show" at the height of the Roswell Crashed-saucer scam. Blum, of course. Richard Rhodes, the Princetonian who has written recently about "the bomb" and more recently, "mad cow disease," in which he glossed over the role of convicted homosexual pedophile (and Nobel laureate) Dr. D. Carlton Gajdusek. And a host of others, who reflect, as former Director of Central Intelligence John Deutch said when he was DCI, that journalists on retainer to the intell community are and will continue to be important assets. No paranoia required, just discernment! What gives Blum's bogus motives away is what he left out of "Out There," i.e., the overlap of at least SOME so-called "UFO phenomenologies" to exotic technology, albeit terrestrially developed and deployed for various political and intelligence ops. It is impossible for a rational journalist to explore much of so-called "UFOlogy" before coming to at least a preliminary conclusion that there's an "all-of-the-above" color to the field, in terms of "what are 'they' and where are 'they' from?", including so-called "mind control" (actually, the term is 'mind-influencing') technologies (ours theirs), as well as cover stories for various developmental aerospace technology (ours not ours). Such transparently bogus "UFO landings" as the Cash-Landrum case, in Texas, which the government-related "proprietary UFO groups" like MUFON, CUFOS FUFOR make so much noise about, and the cult-creating "Gulf Breeze UFOs" of the late 1980s on the Florida panhandle seacoast, are cases in point. Although obvious counter-intelligence disinformation operations, complete with high-level military and political operatives all over the place pretending to be "New Agers" and UFOlogists, the bottom line is that defense contractors and their agents inside the military are in constant struggles to gain advantage over each other and non-American industries. Add to that the certifiably "weird" experiences which do reside at the source of at least SOME purported "UFO sightings," and the climate is established for "B.S." In the case of Blum, who previously wrote about "high crimes" and Mafiosi (being careful to omit alleged linkages to political and intelligence operations that would no doubt bring embarrassment to Blum's "patrons"), he's just doing a contract job for somebody who got him to sell out his credibility and "New York Times" label at a
[CTRL] Networks obsessing over release of documents
From: http://www.mediaresearch.org MRC Alert: More on Freeh/Reno Ignored; Shirtless Gumbel Drag Queens Media Research Center CyberAlert Wednesday June 7, 2000 (Vol. Five; No. 98) More on Freeh/Reno Ignored; No Interest in Nashville; Shirtless Gumbel Drag Queens 1) Dan Burton released long-suppressed Justice documents and the key officials in the controversy, over whether Reno was pressured to drop fundraising, appeared before Burton's committee. NBC gave it 35 seconds, FNC a full story. Zilch on ABC, CBS and CNN. 2) George W. Bush was clueless about the identity of DNC Chairman Joe Andrew, FNC's Carl Cameron pointed out. Bush: "I don't know who Joe Andrew is." Cameron added: "With Democrats questioning Bush's overall smarts, Andrew could not resist a jab." 3) NBC actually slipped in a 17-second mention of the Gore rental property situation, sans any video. GMA spent over a half hour with Gore but did not mention his rental house. FNC's Brit Hume revealed that the Nashville Tennessean has run only a wire story on the situation and has no plans for further coverage. 4) National Enquirer headline: "Matt Lauer and Bryant Gumbel's Wild Night with Drag Queens." But it's not made up. They published photos of a bare-chested Gumbel getting a lap dance from a he/she. Watch the appearance by the MRC's Tim Graham Monday night on FNC's The Edge with Paula Zahn when he discussed Elian coverage. The six minute segment, during which he appeared with a woman from Salon.com, has now been posted in RealPlayer format by MRC Webmaster Andy Szul. It's in two places. First, at the bottom of the executive summary for the MRC's special report on Elian: http://www.mediaresearch.org/specialreports/news/sr2523.html And second, on the MRC's Media Bias Videos page: http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/biasvideo.html 1) House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton on Tuesday released documents the Justice Department had long suppressed about conflicts in Al Gore's statements and three FBI and Justice Department officials who participated in a 1996 meeting, in which two of the three maintain Justice's Lee Radek conceded Janet Reno was under pressure not to pursue fundraising, appeared before Burton's committee. The ABC and CBS evening shows ignored it all Tuesday night, June 6. ABC led with productivity growth and a new diabetes treatment topped the CBS Evening News. CNN's Inside Politics delivered a brief item about the document release but skipped the hearing. The World Today ignored both developments. NBC Nightly News gave the document release 35 seconds, but only after devoting over two-and-a-half minutes to Robert Hager reciting a Washington Post story about how a United Airlines flight, from Washington Dulles to San Jose, diverted to Denver for an early landing when the airline realized they'd put a dog in the unheated baggage department with limited air. The move saved the dog. FNC's Special Report with Brit Hume ran a full story on the hearing. Anchoring from the National D-Day Museum New Orleans, Tom Brokaw felt compelled to taint the source of the latest disclosure: "In Washington tonight the release of a secret memo written by FBI Director Louie Freeh back in 1997 that could have political ramifications now. In it, Freeh said there was compelling evidence that cast doubt on Vice President Al Gore's accounts of his fundraising activities in the 1996 campaign. It's long been known that Freeh wanted an independent counsel to investigation the Clinton-Gore fundraising operation, but Attorney General Janet Reno said no. The Freeh memo was released by one of the Clinton administration's fiercest critics, Republican Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana." On FNC's Special Report, anchor Brit Hume reminded viewers: "It has been known for some time that the FBI strongly urged the appointment of an independent counsel to investigate the Clinton-Gore campaign finance scandal from the 1996 election, but further details on that tumbled into public view for the first time this day when internal documents long known about but never released became public. As Fox News correspondent Wendell Goler reports, it was a contentious hearing." Goler, as transcribed by MRC analyst Brad Wilmouth, explained: "House Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton released a number of documents he said the Justice Department had tried to keep secret by warning Burton he himself was the target of an investigation." Dan Burton: "Well this about the most transparent attempt to intimidate a member of Congress that I've ever seen, and it ain't gonna fly." Goler picked up: "A 1997 memo from FBI Director Louis Freeh accuses the Justice Department of ignoring reliable evidence that conflicted with Vice President Gore's accounts of his fundraising activities in the 1996 election. Three of the four principals in a December 1996 meeting testified together for the first time. The FBI's
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Cash register' Li Ka-Shing
"Poly Technologies, Inc." an arms company owned directly by the Chinese army? What did I tell you about that Multi-Poley World? FWP. --- Machine Psychology: http://www.atoma.f2s.com/atomareport.html (file #10) --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DOCS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED WITH CUBA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 7, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 DOCUMENTS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED' WITH CUBA ON ELIAN GONZALEZ Documents Also Show INS' Doris Meissner Orchestrated Grandmothers Visit and Knew Eleventh Circuit Would Not Revoke Miami Relatives' Custody of Elian INS Documents Were Turned Over to Judicial Watch Under Court Order (Washington, DC) Some Clinton-Gore Administration documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, Inc. in its lawsuits show that the Clinton-Gore Administration "collaborated" with Cuba on the Elian Gonzalez matter. Other documents show that Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) Commissioner Doris Meissner planned the January, 2000 visit of the Elian's grandmothers in consultation with Cuba and that INS knew that they could not seize Elian without a court order. Meissner also sought to hide the INS' role in orchestrating the Cuban grandmothers' visit. Copies of these documents are available at Judicial Watch's Internet site at www.judicialwatch.org. The documents were turned over to Judicial Watch recently by the Clinton-Gore Justice Department as part of its Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Justice Department and INS to obtain underlying information on the Elian Gonzalez saga. A federal court judge appointed by President Clinton, James Robertson, ordered that the Justice Department begin turning over the documents to Judicial Watch on April 26, 2000. Thus far, the Clinton-Gore Administration has turned over approximately 3,000 documents, with thousands more expected. The Administration continues to withhold hundreds more, redacting pages in their entirety. Many of the documents, which have been reviewed by Judicial Watch, bear directly on the current court battles over Elian's asylum petitions and may have changed the early outcome of the case if they had been made public sooner. "These smoking gun' documents help prove what we've suspected that the Clinton-Gore Administration was doing the bidding of Fidel Castro when they raided the Gonzalez home using 151 armed federal agents," stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. Judicial Watch is a public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton's Ritalin Racketeers and Their Chemical Lobotomies
The Ritalin Racketeers and Their Chemical Lobotomies Part I Michael Savage March 29, 2000 Dr. Michael Savage Interviews Dr. Peter R. Breggin [Dr. Savage has a Ph.D. in Epidemiology and Human Nutrition from U.C., Berkeley.] NEWSMAX.COM--Savage: If youve heard Hillary Clintons recent remarks on Ritalin and other drug use on children, youll find the usual nauseating demagoguery. She appears to be urging Ritalin caution; but, if you listen carefully, shes calling it a miracle drug: "A Godsend for emotional and behavioral problems, for both children and their parents." She insists her efforts are not an attack on the medical treatment of childrens emotional well-being because the drugs are very, very "useful." As with everything else the Clintons do, youve got to read between the lines. So right now were going to read between the lines with an expert who has a magnifying glass on the subject of Ritalin use. He wrote an earlier book called Talking Back to Ritalin; What Doctors Arent Telling You about Stimulants for Children. Hes been on this program before. His name is Dr. Peter R. Breggin. He has a new book out, and its called Reclaiming Our Children. You can get it at the bookstore or at www.Breggin.com. Dr. Breggin, welcome to the Savage Nation. Breggin: What a pleasure to hear your backtalk to Hillary. You know, there is such hypocrisy with her. I didnt start out as a Clinton basher; I started out hopeful years ago. What shes doing here is merely damage control because her drugs have come under criticism. Savage: What do you mean by "her drugs"? Breggin: In June of last year, following the school shootings, Hillary and Tipper Gore, as well as their husbands, got together for the first White House conference on mental health. Because of her interest in mental health and her own problem with anti-depressants, Tipper had been made the expert, the psychiatric consultant to the president, duly designated. She then created this conference. At the conference Hillary showcased a psychiatrist named Kopowits of New York University... Savage: Oh, hes a son-of-a-gun! Hes a drug peddler, in my opinion. He had the nerve to say from his early studies on Ritalin that he found it very useful on children down to the age of two. He goes a step further and says we should even use more of it. Breggin: Yes, he does. Youre on top of this subject, Michael. Savage: Theres nothing worse than poisoning our childrens minds. Breggin: You know, the man Hillary introduced at the meeting goes so far as to say that no amount of trauma to children -- or poor parenting or anything in their lives -- causes them mental disorders. He says its all biological and genetic and should be treated by drugs. This is a guy who actually wrote in one of his books that sex abuse doesnt cause mental disorder unless the child has a biological problem to start with in the brain. Savage: So what is he? Some kind of a front for the drug companies? Breggin: Hes the head of child and adolescent psychology at N.Y.U. Savage: Lets be clear on this guy. Is he a NaMBLA mentality, a member of the North American Man Boy Love Association? Breggin: No, I dont think so. But it does come close to enabling child abuse when he says that. Now the whole conference was this way. Hillary even said that, whether or not teenagers want treatment, they have to get it. So its involuntary treatment. Savage: Dr. Breggin, please, lets pause for a moment. I listened to Hillary, and I heard the double talk. Shes so good at it, and Im not making this up, that the Communist Chinese have sent their cadres to study her speeches. They say shes the finest propagandist theyve ever heard. She claims shes urging caution because of the outcry against the doping up of our kids. But if you listen to the text of her statements, shes really saying theyre miracle drugs. Breggin: Well, shes also doing something that is, to me, an abomination. Shes giving money to N.I.M.H. [National Institute for Mental Health] ultimately to conduct more experiments on two- to four-year-olds. What they re going to do is conduct a lot of clinical studies which actually drug two- to four-year-olds. Savage: You know, Im so frightened of these two people, Bill and Hillary, that Im making an all-out effort to make the truth known about these horrific practices. In the last conversation we had about your earlier book, Talking Back to Ritalin, we showed that A.D.D. (1.) may not be a real diagnosis in many cases, (2.) takes away the spontaneity in a child, and (3.) if a boy shows symptoms of the "disease" called masculinity, hes immediately declared ill and put on a drug. This is very terrifying, isnt it? Breggin: I think its absolutely horrifying. Since I was on your show the last time, I was asked by the National Institute of Health to be their scientific discussant on the effects of these drug at a big conference they held. Beforehand, I reviewed all of the
[CTRL] Thought control
Columnist Dan Walters' (www.sacbee.com) article in the San Mateo County Times 6/5/00, alerts us to California Assemblyman Darrell Steinberg's method of asking "private" questions of school children by requiring that the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations be incorporated into existing health screening programs operated by the county government. It passed. Example of questions: 1. Whether the childs family had a history of mental illness, domestic violence or drug use. 4. Whether the family or neighbors own guns. 5. Whether ...involved with gangs. 7. Whether the child had signs of poor self esteem. etc. It passed. The Cal. Assembly also included, in a different bill, that the Museum of Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center in LA) should be consulted in developing hate crime prevention in schools, etc. They are putting into Law that their policies etc. are reasonable and to be part of our government. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The effect of Aids in Africa-scientific american
Scientific American CARE FOR A DYING CONTINENT In Zimbabwe--where AIDS is prematurely killing a generation of adults--counselors and researchers struggle against social customs, viral resourcefulness and despair. By Carol Ezzell, staff writer Photographs: Karin Retief/Trace Images/The Image Works "If the younger generation does not change, we are going to perish." Millicent Tigere perches expectantly on the edge of the sofa, her hands folded in the lap of her simple black skirt. At the age of 20, she has already been married for two years and has a one-year-old baby girl, now strapped to her back with a white terrycloth towel. One of her relatives died a year ago, and she suspects the cause was AIDS. She has come to the clinic today to find out if she herself has a future--or if her child is destined to become an orphan like the estimated 10 million others on the continent of Africa. Millicent lives in a town on the outskirts of Harare, the capital city of the southern African nation of Zimbabwe. Her husband, who is 26, has a job as a bank teller--a feat, considering the country's unemployment rate of roughly 50 percent. Millicent speaks a little English, which is Zimbabwe's official language, but she prefers to conduct her AIDS counseling session primarily in Shona, her tribal tongue. Chiratidzo Muyaka, Millicent's counselor, is a motherly figure in her 40s with glasses and big brown eyes. Her past experience as a schoolteacher shows as she guides Millicent through the "pretest" questionnaire that will prepare her for her blood test for the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the cause of AIDS. Does she know how the AIDS virus is spread? Millicent confidently and correctly identifies unprotected sex, sharing hypodermic needles and childbirth as the major means through which HIV is transmitted. THE GOMBEDZAS Has she had sex with anyone other than her husband? She shakes her head no. Has her husband had sex with other women? "I don't think so," she answers, laughing nervously behind her hand. Has she thought about what might happen if she tests positive? Her smile fades. She pauses to reach back and pull up one of her sleeping baby's flower-patterned socks before answering. "I get worried if I am positive, because I would be divorced [by my husband], and I worry about breast-feeding." Nevertheless, she declares, she plans to share the results of her test with her husband. Although she says she and her husband have never used condoms because she takes birth-control pills, Millicent agrees to discuss condom use with him before she returns in two weeks to receive the results of her HIV test. She takes a dozen free condoms because, she says, she and her spouse have sex nearly every night. Then she leaves the counseling room for the clinic's examining room to have her blood sample drawn. The chances that Millicent is not already infected with HIV are not good. Zimbabwe's National AIDS Coordination Program (NACP) estimates that between 20 and 25 percent of the population carries the virus. The likelihood that one in every four people I meet is infected with HIV haunts me as I walk the streets of Harare. The face of HIV is everywhere: on the taxi driver who drove me to my first appointment this morning, on my waiter last night, on the woman selling roasted corn on the cob at the side of the road, on the businessman emerging from his Mercedes. I have come to Zimbabwe because it represents one of the best of the worst. As in other sub-Saharan African nations, the AIDS problem here is so severe that it eclipses the often-used term "crisis." AIDS is destined to alter history in Africa--and, in fact, the world--to a degree not seen in humanity's past since the Black Death. But unlike some other African countries, Zimbabwe is not riven by tribal violence. If any behavioral intervention against AIDS will work in Africa, one of its best chances will be here. But that one-in-four estimate of Zimbabweans infected with HIV is likely to be optimistic, based on scanty data and wishful thinking. The statistic derives from blood samples collected periodically from pregnant women who show up at a dozen maternity clinics around the country--a system that even Evaristo Marowa, director of the NACP, acknowledges is inaccurate. Workers at the clinic to which Millicent has come see HIV infection rates that are much higher. Nearly 40 percent of the women presenting themselves for HIV counseling and testing have turned up positive, according to epidemiologist Nancy S. Padian of the University of California at San Francisco. Padian is collaborating with Z. Michael Chirenje, Tsungai Chipato and Michael T. Mbizvo of the University of Zimbabwe's department of obstetrics and gynecology on studies to find ways to prevent the spread of HIV, which in Africa is transmitted largely through heterosexual sex and from mother to newborn. Like many other AIDS researchers, they are focusing on women instead of men in part
Re: [CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)
Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their freedom, their confidence, and their future. What a load of hooey! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce
In a message dated 6/7/00 4:11:02 PM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes: Subj:Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce Date: 6/7/00 4:11:02 PM Central Daylight Time From: AOL News BCC: Ahab42 Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce GENEVA, June 7 (Reuters) - The AIDS virus is likely to devastate the labour market of sub-Saharan Africa with projected workforce declines of up to a fifth or more in the worst-hit countries by 2020, the International Labour Organisation (ILO) said in a study on Wednesday. The study by the Geneva-based U.N. labour agency said that by 2020, the size of the workforces in Botswana and Zimbabwe would be 21 percent lower than they would have been without the AIDS crisis, even after the growth in populations were taken into account For the full text of this story, A HREF="aol://4344:30.L100LNKB.7254542.644879426"click here/A. (c) 1999 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. No republication, redistribution or framing is permitted absent Reuter's prior consent. Reuters is not liable for errors or delays in content or actions taken based on this content. Active hyperlinks inserted by AOL. Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: A HREF="aol://5862:146"News Profiles/A and click on "Modify Your News Profiles." Then click "Edit" and add Reuters from the list on the left. To edit your profile, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:NewsProfiles"NewsPro files/A. For all of today's news, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:News"News/A. Study says AIDS will devastate African workforce GENEVA, June 7 (Reuters) - The AIDS virus is likely to devastate the labour market of sub-Saharan Africa with projected workforce declines of up to a fifth or more in the worst-hit countries by 2020, the International Labour Organisation (ILO) said in a study on Wednesday. The study by the Geneva-based U.N. labour agency said that by 2020, the size of the workforces in Botswana and Zimbabwe would be 21 percent lower than they would have been without the AIDS crisis, even after the growth in populations were taken into account For the full text of this story, A HREF="aol://4344:30.L100LNKB.7254542.644879426"click here/A. (c) 1999 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. No republication, redistribution or framing is permitted absent Reuter's prior consent. Reuters is not liable for errors or delays in content or actions taken based on this content. Active hyperlinks inserted by AOL. Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: A HREF="aol://5862:146"News Profiles/A and click on "Modify Your News Profiles." Then click "Edit" and add Reuters from the list on the left. To edit your profile, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:NewsProfiles"NewsProfiles/A. For all of today's news, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:News"News/A.
[CTRL] FDA Stops Cancer Kid's Alt/Treatment
4-Year-Old Fights for More Than His Life "The FDA is Killing Our Children," says mother. A HREF="http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp"FDA, Friend or Foe?: 4-Year-Old Fights for More Than His Life/A http://www.cbn.org/Newsstand/stories/000504.asp By Joie Munda and Ken Hulme May 4, 2000 -- EXCLUSIVE -- A young boy fights for his life from an aggressive form of brain cancer. Has the FDA become his worst enemy? People continue to protest over Elian Gonzales. Why is it that no one is fighting over Thomas Navarro? Thomas is the 4-year-old son of Arizona parents Jim and Donna Navarro. He has medulloblastoma, an aggressive form of brain cancer. Recently doctors operated on the young boy to remove a golf ball size tumor. Without additional treatment, Thomas will die. What would you do if you were Thomas parents? Worse still, what you do if your child were suddenly struck with this fatal form of brain cancer? As his young life hangs in the balance, vital questions have emerged for Thomas parents, and by implication for the nation: 1. Which cancer treatments are best: The prescribed Food and Drug Administration (FDA) treatment of radiation and chemotherapy, with their dramatic and debilitating side effects? Or an experimental treatments (approved in FDA trials) with an high success rates and no known side effects? 2. Who has the right to decide which treatment is best for this 4 year oldor any child with medical options: the parents and their doctor, or the government? 3. Is the FDA always right in its policies and practices? The "Recommended Treatment" When Thomas was diagnosed with brain cancer in September of 1999, not surprisingly, his parents were devastated. But within days, surgeons had successfully removed the cancerous growth. As a follow-up, they recommended an aggressive cocktail of radiation and chemotherapy, a course typical for this type of cancer. Medulloblastoma takes just 45 weeks to grow a second tumor. If the first one has been removed, the second one is fatal unless the patient undergoes this type of "salvage therapy," as one study calls radiation treatment in children Thomas age. Initially, Jim was willing to trust doctors with the next step in his childs care. But, he soon became skeptical when no one would talk to him about what Thomas condition would be like after chemotherapy and radiation. And doctors were not willing to show the Navarros any survival reports of medulloblastoma. Thats when the Navarros learned some shocking news! "Every patient, which doctors have treated with radiation and chemo at his sons age, was 'either crippled or dead,' " says Donna Navarro. When Jim wanted to know the ingredients of the chemotherapy, the doctor said, "You dont need to know." That's when, "Our first red flag went up," says Jim. Later, Jim was assured by the radiologist that the side effects would be manageable. "He had listed skin redness, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, and loose stools and had me sign it," says Jim. The doctor leaves the room. About 10 minutes later he comes back and says, "Oh, Dad, by the way, I forgot. Hell also have fluid on the middle ear, hearing loss, memory loss, hyperthyroidism, low level hormones, spinal growth deficit, hyper-pituitarianism, secondary tumors, cerebral necrosis, and he went on down the list." Thomas doctors were unavailable for comment. The Journal of Clinical Oncology confirms the Navarros' fears. In a December 1999 study by St. Jude Childrens Research Hospital, "all patients lost cognitive function during and after [radiation] therapy." In fact, the summary went on to state that "all patients treated in this fashion with salvage radiation therapy have significant neuropsychologic deficits [including a significant loss in IQ]. Our experience demonstrates that medulloblastoma in infancy is a curable disease, albeit at significant cost." Suddenly, Jim and Donna realized their son could become an invalid, requiring a lifetime of care. Searching for an Answer As they began to turn a deaf ear to the radiologists, Jim and Donna worked feverishly to find a solution. Using the Internet, they spent thousands of hours becoming experts on their sons condition. They also made friends through online chat rooms with other families in similar straits. There they also learned of a clinic in Houston, Texas, that had been approved by the FDA to do clinical studies for certain types of cancer. Would this clinic provide the answer? Then, the unthinkable happened. Because the Navarros were unwilling to submit their son to traditional FDA approved treatments, doctors finally turned the family over to child protective services. The Navarros decided to flee the state. Theyve been living in a hotel in Houston for the past six months. There they located Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski, a medical doctor and cancer researcher. The Navarros found Burzynski to be candid about his successes introducing them to a thriving young man in college,
[CTRL] NIDS: Extraterrestrials Science
We received this note from National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS): "The recent Observer Newspaper article entitled "British UFO Secrets Revealed" has a followup. NIDS has just published an essay by Dr. Colin Ridyard, the central figure in the newspaper article, in which he lays out in detail the history of British MoD actions on UFO radar data. It makes for fascinating reading. It can be found at: http://www.nidsci.org and it may be worth alerting your readers to this. Sincerely Colm A Kelleher PhD NIDS" ECONEWS: Reviewing the NIDS website, we found an extraordinary scientific organization, with a forward-looking staff and some of the best scientific contributors. Counterbalancing several ET-skepticals on the Board of Directors are group of collaborating extraterrestrially-curious scientists. We would hope the ET skepticals can jettison their life-long professional agnoticism in favour of committed scientific discovery. http://www.nidsci.org One of our favorites sections are the research papers on extraterrestrial intelligence. You can find it at: http://www.nidsci.org/articles/dialog.html We found Alan Tough, PhD's conclusion on target: "4. Advanced civilizations are probably letting us develop freely, without interference, in order to maximize the amount of information they gain; if they interfere and control us, they will learn less (Kuiper and Morris, 1977). Their greatest gain from us may be sociological and anthropological knowledge about our culture and civilization." And the winner of NIDS essay competition, Dr. Gregory L.` Matloff, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, NYU: "The Reenchantment of the Solar System: A Search of Local ETs." ABSTRACT: It is argued using a conservative approach to interstellar travel that intelligent extraterrestrials (ETs) may be present in our solar system, living in world ships that have colonized cometary or asteroidal objects during the last billion years. The originating star systems for these advanced beings could be solar-type stars that fortuitously approach our Sun within a light year or so at intervals of about a million years or nearby stars that have left the main sequence, prompting interstellar migration. If we are indeed within such a "Dyson Sphere" of artificial worldlets, we could detect their presence through astronomical means since a space habitat will emit more infrared radiation than a like-sized comet or asteroid. Interestingly, several Kuiper-Belt objects have recently been found to have an unexpected and substantial red excess. It is argued that, in opposition to the assumptions of current SETI searches, the very advanced occupants of this possible local Dyson Sphere may have as little interest in beaming radio signals in our direction as we do in communicating with termites. A research program is proposed whereby large and small college observatories would routinely monitor the spectral irradiances of Near Earth and Kuiper Belt objects while a concurrent theoretical effort models the spectral characteristics of various proposed space habitats. Much of the observational work, at least, could be dovetailed with projects designed to detect Near-Earth Objects (NEOs) that might impact Earth in the future. Possible strategies and protocols for direct contact, requiring humans to be the active contactees are presented to be considered for use if such intelligent ETs are discovered within our solar system. " http://www.nidsci.org/essaycomp.html Alfred Webre Vancouver, BC _ Exopolitics - Alternative News for ecology, consciousness Universe politics. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.exopolitics.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
[CTRL] EXOPOLITICS Capetown, South Africa's 567mwCapeTalk, Friday June 9.
Alfred Webre, author of the new eBook EXOPOLITICS, will speak on Capetown, South Africa's 567mwCapeTalk, Friday June 9. EXOPOLITICS discloses a 1977 USA-Carter White House- National Science Foundation Study into extraterrestrial communication that was suppressed. Author Alfred Webre was its Principal Investigator. Exopolitics is the study of political and governmental forms in the Universe. Exopolitics is to terrestrial politics and government as exobiology is to biology.Exopolitics is a key component of Universe ecology. The eBook EXOPOLITICS is available at UniverseBooks.com. A complementary copy of Episode One of EXOPOLITICS, along with Nicky Molloy's review, can be found at: http://www.universebooks.com/nicolareview.html The winner of NIDS 2000 essay competition, Dr. Gregory L.` Matloff, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, NYU, writes: "The Reenchantment of the Solar System: A Search of Local ETs." ABSTRACT: It is argued using a conservative approach to interstellar travel that intelligent extraterrestrials (ETs) may be present in our solar system, living in world ships that have colonized cometary or asteroidal objects during the last billion years. The originating star systems for these advanced beings could be solar-type stars that fortuitously approach our Sun within a light year or so at intervals of about a million years or nearby stars that have left the main sequence, prompting interstellar migration. If we are indeed within such a "Dyson Sphere" of artificial worldlets, we could detect their presence through astronomical means since a space habitat will emit more infrared radiation than a like-sized comet or asteroid. Interestingly, several Kuiper-Belt objects have recently been found to have an unexpected and substantial red excess. It is argued that, in opposition to the assumptions of current SETI searches, the very advanced occupants of this possible local Dyson Sphere may have as little interest in beaming radio signals in our direction as we do in communicating with termites. A research program is proposed whereby large and small college observatories would routinely monitor the spectral irradiances of Near Earth and Kuiper Belt objects while a concurrent theoretical effort models the spectral characteristics of various proposed space habitats. Much of the observational work, at least, could be dovetailed with projects designed to detect Near-Earth Objects (NEOs) that might impact Earth in the future. Possible strategies and protocols for direct contact, requiring humans to be the active contactees are presented to be considered for use if such intelligent ETs are discovered within our solar system. " http://www.nidsci.org/essaycomp.html _ Exopolitics - Alternative News for ecology, consciousness Universe politics. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.exopolitics.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFOs and the Military
In a message dated 00-06-07 08:24:51 EDT, you write: Let us assume for a moment that there really ARE aliens here. What kind of evidence is there that they have the power to destroy our Earth to a cinder, that we are shooting at them with back engineered weaponry, and that they are good or benevolent in any way? Please enlighten us all with this profundity. The person whose thoughts I was posting was considerate enough to provide us his name and address. Perhaps you wish to contact him with what he meant. It is: James Gilliland Self-Mastery Earth Institute PO Box 281, Hood River, Oregon 97031 (509) 395-2092 http://www.cazekiel.org If you would like further information, see my post on NIDS today. Alfred Webre Vancouver, BC __ Exopolitics - Alternative News for ecology, consciousness Universe politics. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.exopolitics.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] INDICTMENT BY THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL
=== The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU INDICTMENT BY THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL (submitted to the international tribunal against NATO war crimes in New York on the fortcoming weekend) I Preamble 1) NATO, the United States of America, the Federal Republic of Germany, the United Kingdom, Turkey, Spain, the Netherlands, Croatia, Hungary, Italy, France and others - after failing to force the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia at the so-called "peace negotiations" in Paris and Rambouillet to accept an extortionate ultimatum which in fact aimed at the occupation of the entire territory of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and had been declared a condition sine qua non - without a declaration of war and without a resolution by the United Nations Security Council launched warlike rocket and bombing attacks against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, deliberately murdering Serbs, Kosovo-Albanians, Roma, Muslims, Orthodox-Christians, Catholics and foreign nationals. By doing this they destroyed and damaged economic, social, cultural, medical, diplomatic and religious resources. In the course of their criminal war of aggression, NATO and the above-mentioned states cut off the population of Yugoslavia from food, water, electric energy, food production, medicines and medical services. By means of rocket and aerial bombing attacks they systematically destroyed and damaged waterworks and agricultural irrigation installations, factories, fertilisers and vegetation, pharmaceutical production works, hospitals and health service installations as well as other objects needed for human survival. The aggressors attack chemical factories, oil refineries, petrol and natural gas stores, fertiliser plants, installations and localities with the aim of releasing, on a wide scale, radioactive and other dangerous substances into the atmosphere, the soil, the ground-water and the foodchain, poison the environment and harm the population. They employed banned arms, attacked the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia with rockets, bombs and missiles which contained Depleted Uranium (DU) and released radioactive substances into the atmosphere the soil, the ground-water, the foodchain as well as into solid objects, thus exposing the Yugoslav population to health hazards for generations to come. 2) With these actions NATO and the above-mentioned states violated International Law, especially art. 2 chapter 7 of the UN-Charter; the Declaration on Non-intervention; the Resolution on the Definition of Aggression, 1997 UNGA 3314; articles 52 and 53 of the Convention on the Law of Treaties of 23 May, 1969; the Treaty on the Banning of War, the Briand-Kelog-Pact of Paris, 1928, articles 1 and 2; the Hague Conventions, especially the Fourth Hague Convention of 18 October, 1907; the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilians in Times of War, 1949; the Statutes of the Nuremberg Tribunal, principles VI a, b and c; the Geneva Additional Protocol 1977, articles 48 and 51; the Geneva Protocol on the Use of Asphyxiating, Poisonous and Similar Gases as well as of Bacteriological Substances in Wars, of 1925; the European Convention on the Peaceful Settlement of conflicts, of 29 April, 1957 and also violated national penal codes concerning murder, duresse, dangerous threat, wilful destruction, arson, damage to the environment, formation of gangs for the purpose of carrying out criminal plots and genocide. II THE VIENNA TRIBUNAL BRINGS A POLITICAL INDICTMENT AGAINST: The Federal Government of the Republic of Austria Chancellor Mag. Victor Klima Vice Chancellor and Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Wolfgang SchÑssel Minister of Defence Dr. Werner Fasslabend Former EU-Special Representative Dr. Wolfgang Petritsch, present High Representative for Bosnia Former Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Alois Mock a) in particular against former minister of foreign affairs Dr. Alois Mock on the basis of the well-founded suspicion of openly taking position (politically, economically and logistically) and intervening in a civil war - thereby violating neutrality - by abetting the destruction of the sovereign Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, through furthering - in contravention of international law - and politically supporting the secession by force of member republics of the SFR of Yugoslavia by way of the official recognition - in violation of international law and the status of neutrality - of member republics of the SFR of Yugoslavia which had seceded with the use of force. (Violation of the neutrality law; of the UN-Charter; of the principle regarding the obligation of non-intervention in matters which, according to the Charter, pertain to the national competence of a state; Declaration of the United Nations) b) in particular against the former EU-Special Representative Dr. Wolfgang Petritsch on the basis of his collaboration in the "peace accords" elaborated in the course of the so-called
[CTRL] Resources on Drug Experimentation and Related Mind Control by the U.S. Government
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/lsd.html "the CIA:" http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/cia.html ---http://www.calweb.com/~welsh ("Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse," Cheryl Welsh) http://www.raven1.net (Eleanor White, Physical Engineer; no e-mail at this time; just snail mail) [specifics:] http://www.raven1.net/silsoun2.htm ("Silent Sound") http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm ("Aerial Mind Control") http://home.nas.net/~raven1/uncom/htm ("Unclassified Mind Control Equipment") http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/local/h-pages/pro-freedom/ ("Project Freedom," U.K.) http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/2289/webpage.htm (Mojmir Babecek's "International Movement to Ban Radiofrequency Weapons") http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/mck-clsc.htm (Julianne McKinney-former intelligence officer's paper on microwave harassment and mind control) http://www.datafilter.com/mc (Mr. Allen Barker) http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/meth/gut.htm http://www.bilderberg.org/ ("The Bilderberg Group")- an "idea" of how the international elites "work." http://www.defraudingamerica.com/ (Rodney Stich, former investigator) http://www.executiveorders.org http://www.aches-mc.org (ACHES- Patty Rehn) http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/nuremb1.htm ("The Nuremberg Code") Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What the Meaning of ISS Is
From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Science Technology Shuttle crew repairs International Space Station, but ISS's troubles on earth continue By Tom Bishop 7 June 2000 Back to screen version After a 10-day mission, Space Shuttle Atlantis returned to the Kennedy Space Center in the early morning hours of May 29. Atlantis's crew of six Americans and one Russian successfully completed all of the mission objectives to repair the partially-built International Space Station (ISS) and boost its orbit. The pleasure of another scientific achievement in space must be tempered, however, with the understanding that the repairs had to be made to the ISS even though it has yet to be used. Because of lengthy delays in its construction, the Atlantis astronauts had to replace four of the ISS's 82 kilogram (180 pound), $252,000 nickel-cadmium batteries on the Russian-built power and communications module Zarya. Zarya, launched in November 1998, is a propulsion module that is keeping the early stages of the ISS aloft. The astronauts replaced smoke detectors and fire extinguishers that had exceeded their warranty, repaired the faulty ventilation system, and delivered 1,350 kilograms (3,000 pounds) of supplies. They also mounted construction cranes on the outside of the space station. In addition, Atlantis boosted the space station's orbit. Due to increased atmospheric drag from high solar activity, the ISS had been sinking slowly. Officials were concerned that Zarya would run out of fuel before the docking of the much delayed Zvezda service module, now scheduled for launch in July, which is equipped to periodically boost the space station's orbit. Currently, the ISS consists of the Zarya module and Unity, a US-built connecting tunnel, launched in December, 1998. The Zvezda module will provide the first living quarters for the ISS, as well as life support and refueling capabilities. The Zvezda launch is two years behind schedule. It was delayed first because of financial problems in Russia and then because of a crash of a rocket in October 1999. About 86 percent of ISS's components are finished and waiting to be launched and assembled in orbit. The first crew is scheduled to take up residence in ISS around October 30 if the Zvezda launch is successful. The development of the ISS was first approved by the US Congress in September 1988. It was to be the next generation of space station following Mir, which had been put in orbit by the Soviet Union in 1986. ISS quickly became an international venture as NASA joined forces with the European Space Agency, Canada and Japan. A total of 16 nations are now participating. However, it quickly became mired in bureaucracy and cost overruns that have slowed its construction and made its completion date uncertain. Estimated cost is now $60 billion. When it is completed, present plans call for a space station which weighs 470 tons, four times the weight of Mir. It will measure 110 meters (361 feet) end to end, the length of a football field, and be seven stories high. It will be able to house a crew of six or seven in 1,300 cubic meters (46,000 cubic feet) of space. The entire space station will be the size of a city block. It will have six trailer-sized labs, two habitation modules and two logistics modules. Russia's experienceas the only country to run a space station over a long period of timeis vital to the success of the ISS. Since it began assembly in space in February1986, Mir has given Russia predominance in the study of long- term human space flight and given Russian scientists a head start in designing the Zvezda crew quarters. In 1993 NASA revamped the International Space Station program and, for economic and political reasons, Russia became a key partner. Space hardware from a planned Mir 2 program became a major component in ISS construction. All astronauts/cosmonauts for ISS will be trained at Star City, which is 50 kilometers (30 miles) outside of Moscow. The history of Mir Mir had been designed to be used for five years. An aging infrastructure combined with the financial problems in Russia caused it to run into increasing difficulty. In 1997 Mir had a near fatal fire and several months later an empty cargo ship collided with the station's Spektr science module, nearly killing its crew of three. Mir's captain, Vassili Tsibliev, who Russian President Yeltsin tried to blame for the crash, commented: "All of this is linked to the economic situation, the corruption and to our miserable lives aboard the station and what we have requested ... doesn't exist. This is because the factories no longer operate." Mir was abandoned by the Russian Aviation and Space Agency, Rosaviacosmos, in August of 1999 because, at an operating cost of $250 million a year, they could no longer afford to keep it occupied. NASA officials abandoned all hope of rescuing Mir and decided to focus exclusively on ISS, which is scheduled to be completed in 2005 and have a 10-year life span.
[CTRL] Fleshing Out Kosovo
Now ... this may be old news but the new news is it's emanating from Germany, a little more liberal and socially advanced with regard to the subject matter. Perhaps a union or two is on the horizon. AER From http://www.fr-aktuell.de/english/401/t401004.htm }}Begin Kosovo-Prostitutes WHEN THE WAITRESSING JOB IS A TRAP Sexual slave trade a problem in Kosovo By Stephan Israel Pristina - The dubious clubs that spring up overnight with names like Miami Beach, Manhattan or International Club often do not remain in business very long. A raid by Italian carabinieri first brought the miserable situation to light in January, when the UN peacekeepers burst into one club to find a dozen desperate women staring back at them. "The women were treated like slaves," said one of the investigators on the case. Since then about 60 women have been freed from similiar conditions. Trafficking in sexual slaves and forced prostitution have become serious problems in Kosovo. The women come from Romania, Moldova, Ukraine and Bulgaria: the poorest regions of eastern Europe. A monthly salary of 50 to 100 dollars is normal in all of those countries. Some of the women fell prey to seemingly innocuous newspaper adverts promising lucrative jobs in the West as waitresses or dancers. Some of them wound up part of a sex trade ring after being kidnapped. Still others knew about the nightclub and the job as a prostitute that awaited them, but not about the horrifying conditions. None of the 60 women were still in possession of their identification documents when they were discovered, according to investigators in Pristina. Passports are usually collected by the "carers" while the women are still in their native countries; sometimes, their "escorts" issue them false documents. It usually takes a while before the trip gets underway, with long waiting periods par for the course. The sex traders command a well-organised network of contacts across the entire region. Inconspicuous motels are the scenes of out-and-out auctions, where the women are sold for the highest bid to pimps and bar owners. On the way to Kosovo, the actual trafficking occurs in Struga on the Macedonian- Albanian border and several villages around the capital, Skopje, that are well- known for their role in illegal prostitution. Until now Macedonian officials have shown little interest in co-operating with the UN, says one UN investigator, who suspects that Macedonian police are involved in the trade in women. Kosovar club owners and pimps pay around 1,500 dollars for each woman. The women are confined to the bars day and night and made to endure cramped and unhygenic conditions. They are usually told that they have to "work off" the cost of transporting them. However, none of the women found in forced prostitution in Kosovo had ever seen any money. Anyway, in most cases the women are auctioned off to another club in some other region after a few weeks or months. Contributing to the problem is the massive international presence brought by the arrival of Nato peacekeeping forces, and the large amounts of money now in circulation. At present more than 40,000 soldiers from all over the world are stationed in Kosovo, plus another 7,000 UN administrators and aid workers from public and private international relief organisations. Many of the prospective customers perusing the bars and nightclubs are members of the international mission in Kosovo, reports one aid worker with an international organisation. "This business is determined by supply and demand," says the woman, who gets her information from talking to victims. It is, she says, a cheap investment for the traffickers, who are attracted by the low risk and the potential for making enormous profits. But, she adds, for the women and girls - sometimes as young as 15 - the sex trade is an extreme form of sexual and economic exploitation. Once they come under the slave traders' control and end up in one of the clubs, the women have no freedom whatsoever to decide their fate, according to the aid worker. A campaign is now being planned for the coming weeks that is aimed above all at the nightclubs' international "clientele." The campaign is supposed to make it clear to these men that the women in the clubs are not "normal" prostitutes. "You pay once, she pays her whole life long," one of the slogans goes. The situation in Kosovo is not without precedent. Nightclubs and bars sprouted up like mushrooms near the former frontline after the war in Bosnia. Kosovo is simply the latest market in a network that is part of a booming business. Most local women stay away from the clubs. Kosovo, like neighbouring Albania, is both a recruiting ground and a transit area for traffic in women. Experts estimate that around 30,000 Albanian women are currently working as prostitutes, most of them in Italy. For eastern European women, the road also stops in Serbia or Belgrade en route to final destinations in Bosnia, Montenegro or
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The problem is, nowadays we have a movement afoot where these beings -- no better or worse than ourselves -- are now presented as being somehow morally and spiritually superior to ourselves solely because of their difference from us...and therefore warrant us giving up our individuality and sovereignty to these beings, because 'they know better'... I afraid that the powers that be are promoting a cargo cult mentality so that one day they can fake an alien landing and use it to manipulate us even further than they do already. If "ETs" land in front of the UN building and tell us they are here to save us from ourselves and we should do what their anointed human representitives say, when they head back up the ramp of their saucer be sure to check for a zipper up the back of their rubber suits. Even if they turn out to be real ETs, reflect back on the history of colonialism and ask yourself if ever, even once, a colonial power actually made things better for their victims. Hint: read up on the New World, Africa, South Asia, Australia and the Pacific. "Benelovent Space Brothers" !?! Gimme a break. If history is any indication whatsoever, they're either a total fraud perpetrated by our all too human masters or they're colonialist predators here to murder, rape and enslave us, herd our children onto reservations and steal all our resources. IMHO A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ducking Shoots, Providing Comfort
From http://www.weeklystandard.com/magazine/mag_5_36_00/owens_feat_5_36_00.html Aha!!! This article confirms what I saw in an interview in 1995 on CNN with a retired Lt Gen who asserted that Schwartkopf's mission was to neutralise the Republican Guard. Because this nuetralisation was NOT done, the Kurds in northern Iraq were massacreed and the no-fly zones were established (as they also forgot to neutralise Hussein's helicopter fleet ... oops). Following this came Provide Comfort, an effort to provide assistance to the Kurds who are now being attacked by the Turks periodically in both Iraq and Syria. So, so much for protecting sovereignty (Kuwait vs Yugoslavia), humanitarian militarisiticisms (Kurds vs Serbs), and no more VietNams (9 years)(Iraq = 10 years in August). AER }}Begin June 5, 2000/Vol 5, Number 36 The Real Gulf War Blunder The problem wasn't that Barry McCaffrey kept on fightingit was that we stopped fighting too soon. By Mackubin Thomas Owens Seymour Hersh's allegation in the May 22 New Yorker that then-Major General Barry McCaffrey unleashed his 24th Infantry Division in an unnecessary attack that mercilessly pummeled retreating Iraqi soldiers two days after the Gulf War cease-fire in 1991 has created the usual furor. Even though the U.S. Army investigated the charges against Gen. McCaffrey years ago, the New York Times has called for an independent review, claiming that "the military services have a poor record of holding their own members accountable for misconduct, especially top officers." On one level, the Hersh-McCaffrey contretemps is much ado about nothing. As the Clintons and their spinners would say, it is old news. But if we can get past the typical press treatment of the issue as a clash of stereotypes, the "'no- holds-barred' investigative reporter vs. the ambitious 'hard-charging' general," the story reveals some important truths about the nature of war and the difficulties of waging it in a democratic republic. The basic facts are these. On March 2, 1991, two days after the Gulf War cease- fire, elements of the 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized) trapped an Iraqi column that had blundered into it near Rumaila, about 50 miles south of Al Qurnah on the Euphrates River. In an intense but one-sided fight, the division destroyed 346 Iraqi armored vehicles including 30 T-72 tanks. McCaffrey's critics claim that he provoked the fight and then used force far in excess of what was necessary. McCaffrey and his defenders reply that it was the Iraqis who provoked the clash and that the response of the 24th Infantry Division was fully in accordance with existing cease-fire guidelines. To understand McCaffrey's actions at Rumaila, it is necessary to grasp the fact that the foremost military objective of the ground war was the destruction of the three divisions of Saddam's Republican Guard. The plan for the Allied ground attack called for the Marines and other Allied forces to fix the Iraqi forces south of Kuwait City while the VII and XVIII Airborne Corps executed a Kesselschlacht, a strategic envelopment from the west toward Basra. The purpose of this maneuver was to trap the main Iraqi forces, especially the Republican Guard, before they could escape across the Euphrates. But the Marine attack was too successful. The offensive against Kuwait City drove the Iraqis out of their defenses rather than fixing them in place. The attack of the VII Corps, on the other hand, took too long to develop. Still, bold action on the part of two divisions of the XVIII Airborne Corps, McCaffrey's 24th Division and the 101st Air Assault Division, placed them in position to prevent the escape of many Republican Guard units. That is the background for the situation Gen. McCaffrey found himself in on March 2. But the blame for the events of that day, if any blame is to be assigned, belongs to McCaffrey's superiors. On February 28, General Colin Powell, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, without any clear sense of the disposition of Iraqi and American forces along the Euphrates, suddenly advised President Bush that it was appropriate to announce a cease-fire. Why? There were two reasons, neither of them sound. Powell's principal motivation for suddenly terminating the war was to dispel the impression, created by news reports describing air attacks on retreating Iraqis along the so-called highway of death, that Allied forces were "piling on." The second reason, which is almost too embarrassing to mention, was that Powell and other Bush advisers believed it would be nice to end the war after 100 hours. One hundred seemed a good round number for the history books. Powell did not bother to inform either the president or the secretary of defense that the central military missiondestruction of the Republican Guardhad not yet been accomplished. Given that this was the primary military objective of the ground offensive, this was a rather startling omission on Powell's part. After all, the
[CTRL] INFOTERRA: War's effect on the environment: a short summary
INFOTERRA-L carried this response to ENWL's Open Letter on Environmental War. = "Environmental warfare" aside, War has always been perhaps the single most destructive activity our species indulges itself in - destructive not only to the fabric of our own humanity, but also to the biosphere at large: when "the enemy" must be destroyed before he/she/it destroys you, you don't concern yourself with such trivial matters as the havoc your chemicals, bombs, underwater super-sonar systems, defoliants, depleted uranium and whatever else you can dig up, might wreak on local ecosystems and upon the biospere as a whole - you just do whatever it takes to kill, and let the "details" sort themselves out. The direct and indirect effects of war upon the environment (none of them positive!!) include; 1) direct destruction of biota via munitions, defoliants, fires, etc. 2) residual effects - dangerous chemicals remaining from war (dioxins, depleteted uranium, heavy metals, chemical warfare agents) leftover mines (which kill wildlife and not just people - they are "equal opportunity" destroyers!), equipment, weapons dumps, ammunition fragments, etc. 3) major alteration of the landscape of battlegrounds - many WW1 battlefields are still ecological dissaster areas, compared to what they were previously! 4) increased depletion of wildlife and forests, even in parks and other protected areas, by troops of various sorts and displaced citizens looking for food, shelter, firewoodmarauding armies and displaced populations are VERY destructive, doing whatever they see as nessessary for "survival". 5) a breakdown of law and order, enabling criminals to pluder forests, poach whatever they like, such as elephants, bears, tigers, gorillas, rare birds, etc., with relative impunity. 6) diversion of governmental resources which might have been used for environmental monitoring, protection, resarch and enforcement of environmental laws - when you are at war, protecting the habitat of spotted owls becomes a VERY low priority!! 7) Massive environmental damage results from military research and the production of war materials: the military are concerned with weapons and killing - not environmental protection!! A good example is the vast amount of radioactive material the former Soviet Union released into the local environment, as well as huge amounts of toxic chemicals poorly stored (an American problem also!!) 8) distraction of attention from environmental concerns: the "general public" and the "media" have a limited amount of Discressional Attention, and also have short attention spans - in times of war and crisis, environmental matters tend to get put on the back burner! 9) a general diminution or cheapening of the "value" of all life: if you do not value the lives of members of your own species, then the lives of members of other species becomes a trivial matter. I submit that one of the pervasive and sytematic obstacles to environmental protection and restoration is war, in all its forms, and the activities and attitudes which accompany and result from it. Accordingly, the "environmental community" should be spending far more of its efforts in fighting attitudes that result in wars, and in promoting peace, as well as environmenatally responsible (and publically accountable!!) behavior of the military and its associated industrial activities. From the Great White North, Ross M. message sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO SIGN THE OPEN LETTER, EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Forum for ecology, politics consciousness.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Convicted Killer Executed After 29 Years on Death Row From The Associ...
I Convicted Killer Executed After 29 Years on Death Row By Ron Word Associated Press Writer STARKE, Fla. (AP) - A convicted killer who described himself as "the poster boy of the death penalty" was put to death by injection Wednesday for the 1976 murder of another inmate. After 29 years on death row, Bennie Demps was executed for the stabbing death of Alfred Sturgis, who was attacked in his cell by three inmates. Demps spoke for seven minutes, proclaiming his innocence before the execution. "This is not an execution, this is murder," Demps said. "I am an innocent man." During his statement, Demps also called on his lawyer, George Schaefer, to investigate why it took almost an hour to prepare him for the execution. Demps was strapped to a gurney beginning at 5:40 p.m. and the execution didn't take place until 6:40 p.m. Demps called the execution a "low-tech lynching by poison." "Governor Bush, you have done what you said you would never do and that's kill an innocent man," Demps said. Demps was officially declared dead at 6:53 p.m., 13 minutes after the lethal cocktail of chemicals was administered intravenously. The execution was scheduled for 6 p.m., but was delayed for a few reasons, according to Justin Sayfie, a spokesman for Gov. Jeb Bush. Both the U.S. Supreme Court and the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta turned down appeals Wednesday, but the paperwork from the Supreme Court wasn't received until 5:30 p.m., Sayfie said. There were also problems with the IV, Sayfie said. The technicians had trouble finding a vein for an alternate IV and finally decided to just use a primary line that was already inserted into Demps' left arm. Schaefer said he would ask State Attorney Rod Smith to investigate Demps' allegations that he was mistreated during the procedure. Schaefer said he was concerned about the delay and Demps' claims that he was cut in the leg and groin during attempts to find an alternate line and it was painful. The Apostolic Nuncio Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo, on behalf of Pope John Paul II, sent a letter to the governor asking for clemency for Demps. Bush received the letter less than a hour before the execution, Sayfie said. The Pope has intervened in only a handful of Florida death penalty cases. The evening execution reflects a change in Florida State Prison execution proceedings. In the past, they usually were set for early mornings. Demps, 49, a Marine wounded in Vietnam, previously had escaped three dates with the electric chair. He said he now was being executed because he had cheated the executioner in a 1971 double murder. "They are trying to execute me in this case for that case," Demps said in an interview Tuesday. "They want a free execution." Demps was served a last meal of barbecue chicken and beef, french fries, dinner salad, Spanish rice, rolls, cherry vanilla and butter pecan ice cream, a mango, banana pudding and Pepsi. He only ate half of the meal. Over his last several days, he received visits from his wife, Tracy Carothers Demps, of Surrey, British Columbia. She sat in a car outside the prison before the execution was scheduled to take place. Demps was first condemned for the 1971 murders of R.N. Brinkworth and Celia Puhlick, fatally shot in a Lake County citrus grove. They were inspecting land when they happened upon Demps, who had fled to the grove with a stolen safe. A year after Demps was sent to death row, the Supreme Court threw out capital punishment across the country. Demps was one of 97 Florida inmates taken off death row. In July 1976, the nation's high court upheld Florida's new death law. Two months later, on Sept. 6, 1976, Sturgis was stabbed to death at Florida State Prison. The dying Sturgis told a prison guard that Demps and another inmate had held him down while a third inmate stabbed him. "They have used me as the poster boy of the death penalty," Demps said Tuesday. "I am an innocent man, wrongly convicted in this murder, and I should be allowed to prove it." The Florida Supreme Court in 1981 upheld Demps' death sentence in Sturgis' slaying, rejecting his argument that it should be overturned because the other two inmates were given life sentences. Judges noted that the other two had no prior murder convictions. Demps was the third inmate executed this year, and the third by lethal injection. Since Florida resumed the death penalty, 46 other inmates have been put to death, all but this year's in the electric chair. Thomas Provenzano, 50, is
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
SkeptiNews 000607b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Last batch of bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/06_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No geckos were genetically engineered to produce this bulletin. Not yet. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Sun King Rules: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~redessa/sun-king/rules/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Outerspace Sailing Ship Unveiled. BERLIN (AP) - Just as early explorers reached new continents in sailing ships, so will humans sail out into the solar system - but by harnessing the power of sunlight instead of wind. That's the vision of a group of engineers who unveiled a prototype solar sail designed to capture the energy of the sun and transport humans and cargo through space without engines or fuel. It can do it at speeds of 223,220 mph, nearly 10 times as fast as the U.S. space shuttle and quick enough to get you from Los Angeles to New York in a little over a minute. "This is our mission, to project mankind beyond the loneliness of our own solar system," said Nersi Razavi, whose Paris-based company Star of Tolerance is the first to contract the solar sail for commercial use. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567142802-657 : Have you sailed to any new planets/stars/galaxies/universes lately? Do the Reptilioids depend on solar sails? Are they incredibly patient? Can we hope to out-wait them? Whaddya do if you sail tears when you're between stars?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # I was lost, but now I'm found: LOST CITY DISCOVERED IN PERUVIAN JUNGLE - ARCHAEOLOGISTS DISCOVER 3 LOST EGYPTIAN CITIES - LOST CITIES FOUND UNDER MEDITERRANEAN - TURKEY DELAYS FLOODING OF ANCIENT ROMAN CITY - ANCIENT CITY FOUND, IRRADIATED FROM ATOMIC BLAST: http://revelation66.pitas.com/ @ STONE, TONES, AND STONEHENGE: Alphanumeric Synchronicities And Ancient Tales Of Singing Stones. La la la la: http://www.caus.org/cz052600.htm @ Another Stonehenge - wind whistles thru megaliths along Columbia River: http://www.dusty-corner-of-the.net/hotsprings/washington/maryhill.html # Skyscrapers of the Sands. Do these unique 30m tall obelisks represent something more than memorials to ancient dead Ethiopian kings? Author JJ points out the remarkable similarity with current highrise building techniques found in cities throughout our modern world. Closer examination of this picture reveals strikingly detailed structural evidence in support of such a proposal. http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/jj_sots.htm : Have you discovered/hidden/designed/obliterated (m)any ancient structures lately? What's your favorite lost city/temple/megalith/civilization? Do lost sites deserve to remain lost? Were they lost for a good reason? Can we care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # POLL: MOST IN US LOVE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. Nearly half of all U.S. households have Internet access, and suburbanites lead the way in embracing new home technologies: http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/06/digital.innovation/ # Popular Firewall Vulnerable To DoS. A security wonk has found a flaw in a popular firewall that makes it vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks. http://computerworld.com/home/print.nsf/(frames)/000607E692?OpenDocument~f # Poll: Few Affected By I Love You Virus. Fewer than one in 15 U.S. firms suffered substantial disruption because of the "I Love You" virus. Whew. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2029120.html?tag=st.ne.ron.lthd.ni : Have any new technologies seduced/overwhelmed/infected/zapped you lately? Do you love new technologies anyway? Do they take over your brain, reducing your critical/analytical reflex, insinuate themselves into your unconscious? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Gecko's amazing sticky feet. (BBC) The mystery of how geckos manage to scurry up walls and stick to ceilings may have been solved by scientists. It seems the little lizards have a network of tiny hairs and pads on their feet which produce electrical attractions that literally glue the animals down. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_781000/781611.stm @ Links - Kellar Autumn Lab http://www.lclark.edu/~autumn/dept/index.html @ Robert J Full http://polypedal.berkeley.edu/Profs_office/Full/Full_home # Also - Lucky Lizard - but is this all a Reptilioid/Republican plot? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_253000/253510.stm # The incredible shrinking iguana - Honey, I Shrunk The Reptilioid! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_593000/593590.stm : Have you climbed any walls lately?Did Reptilioids help/engineer/breed you? Have you driven anyone up the wall? Would you like to be modified to walk as geckos do? Would you like to modify others? Who would you start with? When?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Space Weather News for
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
Two possibilities occur to me off the top of my head: first, the ultraterrestrials are constantly need fresh genetic material. Folklore is consistent around the globe that they are extremely long-lived, and long-lived species usually have low rates of reproduction--hence the need for "breeders.". The second notion, which just occurred to me, is that the ultraterrestrials might actually be symbiotic with humans...that is, human genetic material, sperm, ova, what-have-you, is a physical requirement for them to reproduce. Think of the legends of incubi and succubi, who "ravish" unwary humans in their sleep... - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:) From: "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, next question: WHY do they want to attract and capture us, and why does time seem altered for those they have captured? Perhaps the time alteration is due to their interdimensionality...the 'space' they inhabit is doesn't intersect, or only intersects at one finite point, with our 'time-space continuum'... As to WHY they wish to attract and capture us...well, humanity has basically debated that question for millenia (if we accept that what humanity has in the past labeled 'angels', 'demons', 'faieries', 'devas', 'wee folk', etc. are now called 'aliens')... Why did faieries abduct humans in the past (if there is any basis to old folk tales?)? Why are angels and demons concerned with us? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ENVIRONMENT-TRADE: US Drops Move to Fight Ruling on Trade Panels
6/7/00 Don't fall for this. This is a ploy to de-fang environmentalists and labor. By throwing them a few crumbs, they hope to shut them up about globalization. The problem is the effects of Big Business going global. NOT whether Greens and unions have representation. This is an attempt to buy off the opposition with crumbs. Joshua2 IGC News Desk wrote: Copyright 2000 InterPress Service, all rights reserved. Worldwide distribution via the APC networks. *** 06-Jun-0* *** Title: ENVIRONMENT-TRADE: US Drops Move to Fight Ruling on Trade Panels By Danielle Knight WASHINGTON, Jun 6 (IPS) - The US government, to the cheers of environmentalists, has dropped its appeal of a Federal court ruling that forced it to include representatives of environmental groups on two of its industry-dominated trade advisory panels. The US Trade Representative (USTR) and Department of Commerce dismissed the appeal on Jul. 2, a move seen by environmental groups as the first step in democratising how trade policy is made in this country. Together the two government agencies have almost two dozen advisory committees on trade policy - that are comprised only of corporate and industry representatives. Now, two representatives from environmental groups have been formally appointed to two trade advisory panels that discuss trade in lumber and paper products. A spokeswoman at the USTR told IPS that the removal of the appeal was not a sudden turn around in policy. "The Administration (of US President Bill Clinton) has had a long standing commitment toward greater inclusiveness of environmental and consumer organisations," she said. Environmental groups praised the move as the beginning of opening up trade policy to citizens' views. ''In a democracy, industry should not be the only interest represented in setting our trade policies," says Patti Goldman, an attorney with Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund, who filed the lawsuit leading to the appointments. Environmental groups, many of the same who protested against the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in the streets of Seattle, Washington last year, argued that the make-up of these panels violated US law which requires trade advisory panels to be balanced and not comprised only of business and industry leaders. Information shared between industry and the USTR is not publicly released, except for brief summaries of subjects discussed. Meanwhile, the environmental consequences of trade agreements can be enormous, according to environmental organisations. They say that the make-up of these advisory panels reflect how trade agreements - including policy made through the WTO - have often been worked out in an undemocratic manner, behind closed doors and with no public participation. Groups made some headway last year when a Federal Court took their side. Last November Federal District Court Judge Barbara Rothstein ruled that the Trade Representative and Commerce Secretary had violated the Federal Advisory Committee Act by limiting membership on the paper and wood products committees to industry officials. "The composition of the forest product Industry Sector Advisory Committees (ISACs) ... violates (the law's) requirement to be fairly balanced in terms of viewpoints represented," wrote Rothstein in her ruling. Following the judge's ruling, the USTR's paper products trade committees met without any environmental representatives. So, environmentalists went back to court to obtain a further ruling in December directing the Administration to have an environmental representative at the next committee meeting. Then in January, in a joint announcement by the USTR and Department of Commerce, the agencies said they would appeal the court's ruling. Just before the appeal was dropped two representatives of environmental organisations received invitations from the federal agencies to serve on two ISACs. Yet, environmental advocacy organisations say these two appointments hardly equal balanced representation on panels containing up to 15 industry representatives. "One could say that the composition of the forest products ISACs looks more like a lynch mob than a committee since they have one lone environmentalist and about eight timber industry bosses," says Doug Norlen, a policy analyst with the Pacific Environment and Resources Center, the environmental appointee to the paper and paper products advisory panel. Industry members of the paper and products trade advisory committee include such corporate heavy-weights as the senior vice president of the International Paper Company, the vice president of Westvaco Worldwide, and the vice president of Georgia-Pacific Corporation. Norlen was one of the environmentalists in Seattle last year protesting against the WTO policies and the USTR's push to eliminate barriers to trade in paper and wood products.
Re: [CTRL] Open letter to Ehud Barak (fwd)
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, William Shannon wrote: Today the people of Israel face the loss of their borders, their freedom, their confidence, and their future. What a load of hooey! Bill. lol. We finally agree on something. Mike = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: ITT: NATO's Bombing of Chinese Embassy]
Original Message Subject: ITT: NATO's Bombing of Chinese Embassy Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:18:35 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel) Organization: PACH To: undisclosed-recipients:; http://www.inthesetimes.com/ackerman2415.html June 26, 2000 May 7 marked the anniversary of one of the most fateful episodes of 1999: the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade during NATO's war on Yugoslavia. NATO and the United States apologized for the bombing and called it an accident; China rejected the apology and Washington's explanation - that a "faulty map" led to the "mistaken" bombing. Until recently, remarkably little serious investigation of the bombing had been undertaken by the American press. This is not the case in Europe. Late last year, the London Observer and Denmark's prestigious Politiken newspaper jointly published an explosive expos: Sourced to European and NATO officials, the papers charged that the bombing had been a deliberate Radio Free Burundi American act of retaliation against China for its rebroadcasting of Yugoslav military transmissions from within the intelligence wing of its Belgrade embassy (see "A Tragic Mistake?" December 12, 1999). Now new information has emerged in the American press raising more disturbing questions about how - and why - the attack was carried out. Following the Observer-Politiken report, the media watch group FAIR called on U.S. newspapers, including the New York Times, to investigate the bombing. At first, Times foreign editor Andrew Rosenthal simply said that his reporters had been unable to confirm the Observer's allegations. But hundreds of readers wrote to the Times calling for an inquiry, and on April 17 the paper finally printed a lengthy investigative story that revealed telling details about the attack. The Times story can be read on two levels. Superficially, the piece gives the impression that the Observer's charges have proven groundless: "The investigation produced no evidence that the bombing of the embassy had been a deliberate act," the Times reported. But read more closely, Pentagon reporter Steven Lee Myers' piece conveys a nagging sense of doubt about the CIA and Pentagon's protestations of innocence. Myers characterizes the official account of the targeting process as a "bizarre chain" of missteps. And he pointedly ends his article on a skeptical note, citing Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.), who was briefed on the bombing by CIA and Pentagon officials: "In the end, he said he was confident in their assurances it had not been a deliberate strike. He paused, then added, 'unless some people are lying to me.' " Seth Ackerman is a media analyst for FAIR. In These Times 2000 Vol. 24, No. 15 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Black leader defends Confederate Flag
Tribune Exclusive Interview Black leader defends Confederate Flag, responds to violent attackers By Dana Davis, The Tribune Confederate Flag defender, political activist, former President of the Asheville chapter of the NAACP and 52-year-old black man, H.K. Edgerton was recently accosted by two black men while standing by his confederate flag in front of Asheville High School. Though he was appalled by the alleged violent actions of 19-year-old high school drop-out Andre Dewayne and 32-year-old Kevin Miller, he concedes, "I know and understand their pain because they've been lied to for so long. A lot of people know nothing about that time in history." Describing the event, Edgerton recalls, "A man approached me quickly and when he got a foot away from me, he lunged at me, tried to grab my flag, spit on me, spit on my flag, bent my flag pole. Then another man, who was older, came. I thought he was going to stop him, but he joined in, striking and spitting on me and bending my flag even more." Edgerton said the incident left lingering injuries to his shoulder. Though Edgerton empathizes with the anguish of the two men he asserts, "You have to know how to conduct yourselves. And give a man a chance to speak. Many people have heckled me and cursed at me. When giving speeches I've had blacks heckle me and they had to be removed in Columbia and Charleston, but never has anyone accosted me or my flag. It is my 1st amendment right to take a stand, and you must not violate my right to do so." Edgerton blames the media and the educational system for creating the perception that exists today regarding southern history. "This is a continuation about the lies of the Christian southern white folks during the Civil War. African Americans in this country don't know a thing about that war and that time. They see that flag and someone says slavery and it all falls apart and they think of Southern Christian white folks as being evil." "We can't let the stars and stripes get away that easy. Never were the stars and bars flag flown over a slave ship. And you want to know why? Because it's a Christian Battle Flag that was emulated after St. Andrew, Jesus Christ's first disciple. In 69 A.D. in Petro, Greece -- now a part of Russia -- St. Andrew was jailed because of his teaching and preaching of Jesus Christ, his Lord and Master, and he was told he was going to be crucified on the cross. He begged that persecutor not to nail him to that Latin cross in the shape of "T" because he was not worthy of being punished the way Jesus Christ had been nailed. So he begged to be tied in an X-shape to the cross and the persecutor did what he asked him to. That X is a Greek symbol to CH, the first two letters in Christ's name. When St. Andrew was on the cross he continued his teaching of Christ and all the folks started believing him and for three days he remained on that cross teaching and after three days they begged the persecutor to take him down and when he did, St. Andrew came down off that cross and died, and he became a martyr and a saint. "When (Civil War Confederate ) General Beaureguard decided they needed another flag, he chose the cross of St. Andrew for these reasons. Most Southerners, in fact, did not want to do away with the stars and stripes because they didn't feel they had done anything wrong. They thought it was the north who was eradicating the Constitution. "And as for President Lincoln, our American hero, who signed the Emancipation Proclamation. In march of 1861 Abraham Lincoln called all those black leaders in his office and he told them -- Even if I set you free you'll be inferior. You need to get out of the country because I will colonize you. Lincoln proposed the 13th Amendment, being the only President ever to do so. That amendment said Congress would never have the power to interrupt an institution of state. He told the southerners they could keep the slaves if they paid the North a 42% tariff. The South agreed to a 10% tariff but not 42% . So, who I am supposed to blame the institution of slavery on? "At that time, one of the richest men in the world, John D. Rothchild told his family to put all their money into the Confederacy and described Lincoln as a crook. He said the slaves in the south were better off than the slaves in the north who had to work for next to nothing in the cotton mills. "The attack on the Confederacy doesn't get the attention it deserves. These blacks today have no idea what took place back then. (Blacks) earned a place of dignity in that war. If it wasn't for Africans that war would have lasted four days, not four years. We made all of the implements of war, we fought, we participated -- not one slave insurrection happened during that period of time. They did not have whips and guns forcing them to be there. God and his infinite wisdom brought these people here. He brought about a love between master and slave that has never happened before. If you search this empirically
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
You are certainly right Nessie. Perhaps what is the motivation behind it would be personal TRANSFORMATION or at least to study the psychology of personal metamorphosis in a non-clinical, "real world" environment. Seeking to control how and why people make fundamental changes in their behavior and lives would be a fruitful area for black-ops, totalitarian police state thugs to look into, don't you think? On Tue, 06 June 2000, nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: What does it show us? That the spiritual side can be manipulated, and in fact may be one of several purposes for why the abduction phenomenon is carried out in the first place On the other hand, it is not at all uncommon for people who have been througha psychologically traumatic experience to process it as a life changing event. I myself had a a couple near death experiences at an impressionable age and I'm a totally different person today than I would have been had they not happened. It didn't make me spiritual, but it sure did make me philosophical. Get shot, crash a bike, survive cancer, watch a friend die, lose your house to fire, get married, get divorced, have a kid, get arrested. Any of these things have the potential to turn a person spiritual. I've seen it happen. I dare say that if I honestly thought I'd been abducted by aliens I'd be a different guy later no matter what actually happened in real life. So would you. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: PEPIS #19 - Bilderberg 2000 participants]
Original Message Subject: PEPIS #19 - Bilderberg 2000 participants Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 00:48:48 +0100 From: Tony Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Unelected European Commissioner Pascal Lamy - skulks into Bilderberg 2000 - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/grattan_healy/Bilderberg.html 2. Bilderberg 'Press Release' - 3 June 2000 Full details: http://www.bilderberg.org/2000.htm [This 'press release' was prized out of the Chateau du Lac lunchtime on Saturday 3 June, just as participants were leaving. No participant list was available while the conference was in session. There was critical coverage in Belgian daily De Morgen and on Belgian TV] PRESS RELEASE BILDERBERG MEETINGS 3 June 2000 The 48th Bilderberg meeting was held in Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000. Among other subjects the Conference discussed US Elections, Globalisation, New Economy, the Balkans, EU Enlargement, the European Far Right. Approximately 100 participants from North America and Europe attended the discussions. The meeting was private in order to encourage frank and open discussion. [why then are all participants also told not to refer even to the fact they have attended?] .. Bilderberg's only activity is its annual conference. [apart from the steering group which meets between conferences] ... There are usually about 120 participants of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America. About one-third are from government and politics, and two thirds from finance, industry, labor, education, communications. [I see no representatives of trades unions here at all, ed.] Participants have agreed not to give interviews to the press during the meeting. In contacts with the news media after the conference it is an established rule that no attribution should be made to individual participants of what was discussed during the meeting. There will be no press conference. A list of participants is appended. BILDERBERG MEETINGS Brussels, Belgium 1-3 June 2000 LIST OF PARTICIPANTS 3 June 2000 Honorary Chairman: B, Etienne Davignon; Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique; Honorary Secretary General: GB, J. Martin Taylor; Chairman, WH Smith Group PLC, International Adviser, Goldman Sachs International I, Agnelli, Giovanni; Honourary Chairman, Fiat SpA. I, Agnelli, Umberto; Chairman, IFIL - Finanziaria di Partecipazioni SpA. E, Aguirre y Gil de Biedma, Esperenza; President, The Spanish Senate USA, Allaire, Paul; Chairman of the boardof Directors and CEO, Xerox Corporation I, Ambrosetti, Alfredo, Ambrosetti Group DK, Andersen, Bodil Nyboe; Governor, Central Bank of Denmark CDN, Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc. INT, Avery, Graham; Chief Adviser for Enlargement, European Community P, Balsemão, Francisco Pinto; Professor of Communication Science, New University, Lisbon; Chairman, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S. S, Barnevik, Percy; Chairman, Investor AB NL, Benschop, Dick; State Secretary for European Affairs I, Bernabè, Franco; Special Representative of Italy for Reconstruction Initiatives in the Balkans D, Betz, Hans-Georg; Visiting Proffessor, European Studies, Centre for European Studies, Columbia and New York Universities INT, Bildt, Carl; Special Envoy of the Secretary-General for the Balkans, United Nations CDN, Black, Conrad; Chair, Telegraph Group Ltd. IRL, Bruton, John; Leader of Fine Gael (Opposition Party) GB, Buchanan, Robin WT; Senior Partner, Bain Co Inc. GB, Clarke, Kenneth; Member of Parliament (Conservative) TR, Çolakoglu, Nuri; Chairman and CEO, NTV F, Collomb, Bertrand; Chairman and CEO, Lafarge D, Cromme, Gerhard; Chairman of the Executive Board, Thyssen Krupp AG GR, David, George A; Chairman of the Board, Hellenic Bottling Company SA USA, Deutch, John M, Institute Professor, MIT GR, Diamandouros, P Nikiforos; National Ombudsman USA, Dodd, Christopher J; Senator (Democrat, Connecticut) USA, Donilon, Thomas E; Senior Vice-President, General Counsel and Secretary, FannieMae USA, Dyson, Esther; Chairman, EDventure Holdings Inc. INT, Fréchette, Louise; Deputy Secretary-General, United Nations I, Fresco, Paolo; Chairman, Fiat SpA CDN, Frum, David; Columnist, National Post Newspaper P, Gouveia, Teresa Patrício; Member of Parliament (PSD) USA, Graham, Donald E; Publisher, The Washington Post USA, Hagel, Chuck; Senator (Republican, Nebraska) NL, Halberstadt, Victor; Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary-General of Bilderberg Meetings N, Hambro, Christian; Director-General, Research Council of Norway A, Hampel, Erich; Chairman, Creditanstalt-Bankverein USA, Hutchison, Kay Bailey; Senator (Republican, Texas) B, Huyghebaert, Jan; Chairman, Almanij NV B, Janssen, Daniel E; Chairman, Solvay SA S, Johansson, Leif; President and CEO, Volvo AB USA, Johnson, James A; Chairman and CEO, Johnson Capital Partners USA, Jordan Jr, Vernon E; Managing Director, Lazard Frères Co. LLC
Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:)
If there are these creatures as you posit, then why is it that they have to have an agenda? It may be that there interaction with us is coincidental, or accidental, or that the times that they actually DO things to us or with us it is the action of BAD members of that race who are trying to get ahead in the world, much like humans exploit other humans. It could be cultural, or ritual as well. Maybe we are the subject of mythology in their culture, and they are merely trying to study us? On Wed, 07 June 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote: OK, I could have called them "infraterrestrials" or "metaterrestrials" instead of "ultraterrestrials." All that I meant by using "ultraterrestrial" was that they would be just as much products of Earthly evolution as are human beings. However, I've seen the term "ultraterrestrial" used to refer to a physical race of intelligent entities who, like humans, evolved on Earth, but in a radically different direction. Just what that direction was, remains to be seen. My guess here is that they are essentially the same as the "fairies" (goblins, Heinzelmännchen, fée, etc.) found in every culture on the planet. Sometimes they're worshipped as gods, ancestors, or both; sometimes feared as demons, incubi, succubi; sometimes, as in the Celtic countries, just plain *lived* with and accepted. The one most significant difference between "them" and "us" is that they are able to project an image of themselves that "casts a glamour" on human beings--that makes us see them as deities, or monsters, or space aliens, or UFOs, or superheroes, whatever is most appropriate to the moment. As to *why* they do this...ah, that is another question entirely. - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials (Was: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:) I'm not sure what is meant by the term ULTRA-terrestrial in this sense. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 6:40 PM THIS MESSAGE POSTED TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 Fourth Amendment Sneak Attack Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure. By Dave Kopel, of the Independence Institute The Reno Department of Justice is very good at being sneaky. The DOJ's lobbyists are on the verge of successfully sneaking into law a provision which will authorize federal agents to stealthily enter people's homes, search the homes, and not tell anyone. The Secret Searches measure is so outrageous that it would have no chance of being enacted as a bill on its own, when subjected to public scrutiny and debate. So instead, the DOJ has nestled the Secret Search item deep inside a long bill dealing with methamphetimines. The measure is further disguised with the innocuous title of "Notice Clarification." Subject to virtually no public discussion, the Secret Searches item has already passed the Senate, hidden inside the methamphetimine giant S. 486. Next week, the House Judiciary Committee will take up H.R. 2987, the House version of the Senate bill, which also contains the buried clause on Secret Searches (section 301). The federal bankruptcy reform bill (which has passed both houses, and is currently in a conference committee) likewise has the hidden Secret Searches language. If the Secret Searches provision became law, it would apply to all searches conducted by the federal government, not just searches involving methamphetimines or bankruptcy. When conducting searches, federal agents are currently required to announce their presence before entering, and to provide an inventory of any items they take. Because the person whose home or business is being searched knows about the search, he can exercise his Fourth Amendment rights, and make sure that the police have a properly-issued search warrant. He can also see if the search is being conducted according to the warrant's terms i.e., the police are searching only for items authorized by the warrant, they are searching the right address, etc. But under a Secret Searches law, federal police could enter a person's home surreptitiously, conduct a search, and not tell the homeowner until months later. Even months later, the police would not have to provide an inventory of "intangible" items which were taken in a search. So if the police entered your home secretly, and photocopied your diary or made a copy of your computer hard disk, they would never have to inform you of their actions. Should the Secret Searches item be deleted from the methamphetimine and bankruptcy bills, it is likely that Clinton will try to sneak the item into a gigantic budget bill, during the Congressional Republicans' annual fall appropriations surrender. Take note: In a previous Congress, Clinton was able to obtain authority for warrantless wiretaps which had been defeated after public debate earlier in the year by hiding the authority in the year's omnibus budget bill. ---End of Original Message- === Constitution Society, 1731 Howe Av #370, Sacramento, CA 95825 916/568-1022, 916/450-7941VM Date: 05/18/00 Time: 18:51:48 http://www.constitution.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = PART V: SEARCHES, DRUG TESTING AND SCHOOL SECURITY a href="http://www.aclupa.org/part5.html" http://www.aclupa.org/part5.html/a PREFACE "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.) "The great object is that every man be armed . . . a href="http://guntruths.com/1982rkba.htm#Historical Bases" http://guntruths.com/1982rkba.htm#Historical Bases/a a href="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/bor.html" THE BILL OF RIGHTS Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/bor.html/a a href="http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/constitution/conhist.html" A More Perfect Union: The Creation of the U.S. Constitution http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/constitution/conhist.html/a REMEMBER, REMEMBER...For God's sake Remember! http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb1075995MyNum=959023547P=NoTL=959023547 This page provides the quickest and most comprehensive means of researching state and federal law on the World Wide Web. http://www.mother.com/~randy/law.html COUP D'ETAT IN AMERICA
[CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.
6/7/00 If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government on earth to pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative operations. Legalized bribery. How to do this? By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform ' or some watered down facsimile thereof, as a rider on the Space Based Weapons Bill, A.K.A. Son of Star Wars, A.K.A. SDI. Is this what Capitalism has done to the American democratic experiment? Granny D has overexerted herself on her long admirable journey across America. Let the bastards stink from the head. SDI is a cure much worse than the disease. Joshua2 = - Original Message - From: Dennis Burke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:01 PM Subject: Message from Granny D Dear Dennis, please send this out as soon as you can to my friends list. Doris Dear Friend, John McCain called to say he and Sen. Feingold will try to attach their soft money ban as an amendment on a big Defense Authorization bill today in the U.S. Senate. John and Russ are sticking with this effort, and I think we should help them as much as possible by calling our own U.S. Senators and saying we care about campaign reform and we want them to vote in favor of the McCain-Feingold bill as an amendment to the defense bill. I know that long distance phone calls are expensive, but I hope you can do it anyway. All you have to do is call the Senate switchboard and they will put you through. If you forget their names, just ask the operator to help you. All they need is the name of your state, of course. There are two senators from your state, so two calls would be grand, but one would certainly help. I am very appreciative of any effort you can make on this. Time is very important! It may happen today or tomorrow! Very sincerely, Doris Haddock Ps. The Capitol switchboard is 202-225-3121. Also, if you can send this along to your friends, please do. Pps. Sen. McCain refused to attend a Bush fundraiser in Arizona last week because soft money would be raised in the room. I think that was the right thing to do. I hope some Dem. Senators will do the same in regard to Mr. Gore's soft money events. Pps. Here is a short speech I gave in Boston today, to try to help them save their campaign reform law, passed by the voters 2-to-1, from the Mass. House, which is trying to gut it! If you live in Mass, I hope you will contact your state House member!! ?fontfamily?param HelveticaThank you, We elect our representatives to represent our values and our needs in shaping public policy and allocating community resources. In this work, the regular citizen doesn't stand a chance if elected representatives must first go to wealthy special interests to fund their campaigns. The representation game is over before it begins. It is nothing particularly new. But in the past, the wealthy lived among us. We shopped in their stores on Main Street and their children went to grade school with ours. We shared the same community interests and values. We are now talking about inhumane organizations of inhuman scale and international allegiance. They care not if our main streets or our families prosper or if they blow away. We must not have these monsters influencing our community decisions. We must not allow them to provide funds for our candidates, where those funds will deny us proper representation. We struggle here for the very survival of representative democracy. The people of Massachusetts have seen this problem and they have acted at the ballot box to create a new way to fund candidates, free of excessive influence by wealthy special interests. But those same wealthy interests have their agents in this state house, and they will destroy what the people have done at the ballot, if they can. It is called the overturning of an election, and the method of this coup is the continuing use of campaign contributions to corruptly purchase public policy. The people have have spoken clearly in favor of this historic reform. Did the members of the House not hear them? Do they need for the people to speak again--this time in the coming House elections? At the ballot box, the people have provided for the public financing of candidates who choose to say No to all special interest campaign donations. Their action comes at a time when citizens believe that their voices in government are drowned out by floods of special interest money, and they are right. No one seriously argues that point anymore--the flood is too great Pubic interest groups on the left and right, from the Cato Institute to Common Cause, agree that, for every dollar given to a candidate by a special interest group, over ten dollars in special tax breaks are given in return. This is nothing less than full public financing, but it is a poor system of public financing. By directly funding qualified campaigns with public funds, we can eliminate nine of the ten dollars paid by taxpayers --now paid in the form
Re: [CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.
Joshua2 If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government on earth to pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative operations. Legalized bribery. How to do this? By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform ' or some watered down facsimile thereof, as a rider on the Space Based Weapons Bill, A.K.A. Son of Star Wars, A.K.A. SDI. MJ Why not simply remove ALL of the 'payoffs'? Reduce government to its legitimate function of protecting ALL individuals from force and fraud? Removing more individual rights serves ONLY to exacerbate the problem. Joshua2 Is this what Capitalism has done to the American democratic experiment? MJ No. Joshua2 Granny D has overexerted herself on her long admirable journey across America. Let the bastards stink from the head. SDI is a cure much worse than the disease. MJ The 'idea' is good ... the method for implementation is wrong. Regard$, --MJ No one can read our Constitution without concluding that the people who wrote it wanted their government severely limited; the words "no" and "not" employed in restraint of government power occur 24 times in the first seven articles of the Constitution and 22 more times in the Bill of Rights. - Edmund A. Opitz A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Charles Manson the Solar Lodge of the OTO
Explanatory Note: The research of Jerry Cornelius regarding any contact Charles Manson may have had with the Solar (Riverside) Lodge of the OTO, as published in Scribe (vol.1, no. 7, 1997), leads him to a wall of denial. Cornelius, in a hotly-written rebuttal, disagrees with me and other writers, particularly Ed Sanders and Peter Levenda, about the relationsip: "The most common misconception about the Solar Lodge that authors love to foster is the connection with Charlie Manson. Contrary to what some would like readers to believe, this is a misconception. He was not a member, nor is there any strong evidence that he ever visited the group. The sole source of these stories is found in Ed Sanders' book The Family published in 1971. Here Sanders wrote that at "least five separate individuals have claimed that they were told by a member of Brayton's rebel O.T.O. Lodge that Manson was involved with the Lodge." These allegations have never been substantiated and appear to be only second hand gossip told to a third party who then talked to Sanders, hardly the type of evidence which would stand up in a Court of Law. The only tenuous connection to the Manson murders is that the Solar Lodge problems occurred two months before the Tate-LaBianco murders We find authors like Alex Constantine ... along with Peter Levenda, the author of The Unholy Alliance, promoting the same old tired misconceptions, if not creating new outright lies." Odd that Cornelius should attack Sanders, et al. As recounted below, Sander's version of events originated with Grady McMurty, then the "Outer Head" of the OTO: "When it became known that Manson had been a visitor to Jean Brayton's O.T.O., McMurtry informed on Brayton to the FBI in order not to get involved in the FBI's investigations. He also fed the journalist Ed Sanders with material who as a return favour did not mention McMurtry in his book 'The Family.'" If Sanders is breeding "lies," they began with McMurty the FBI informant, himself. The following account by P.R, Koenig clarifies the connection, and substantiates some of the allegations that Cornelius dismisses as "lies" and "myths." The OTO has long attempted to revise history to distance itself from the Solar Lodge and Charles Manson, but the Order's own research, including the following, agrees with the published accounts denounced by Jerry Cornelius (though there is some small disagreement on details found in my own reporting, as noted in the text): - Charles Manson and the Solar Lodge of the O.T.O. P.R. Koenig New O.T.O. groups in the US Although Charles Manson never had been member of any of the many O.T.O. groups, the tabloid press often warms up his short contact with Georgina Brayton's "Solar Lodge of the O.T.O." of the 1960s. The "Caliphate" (the new American O.T.O. founded in 1977) often calls this earlier O.T.O. lodge 'irregular', but Phyllis Seckler, a protagonist of the "Caliphate" (the wife of its founder Grady L. McMurtry) recently admitted it to be a real O.T.O. lodge. To exaggerate, without Manson the "Caliphate" would not exist at all. -- Let's unroll the history a bit. During Crowley's lifetime there was only one active O.T.O.- lodge in the US; the so-called second Agape lodge in California. Since he was never satisfied with its members and activities (entry in Crowley's diary 9 March 1945: "I place the Californian Lodge under INTERDICT.") Crowley gave to one member of the group which he called fans, above mentioned McMurtry, a special instruction: in case of emergency to take care of this lodge, submitted to the veto of his heir, the German Karl Germer. But Germer never thought highly about McMurtry (calling him a "Minus" and considering the US as a "spiritual desert") and closed the Agape Lodge on September 7, 1953 in order to favour the Swiss H.J. Metzger as heir. Around this time, McMurtry completely lost his interest in the O.T.O. and that's maybe why others continued O.T.O. activities in the US. In the mid-1950s, two ex-members of this ex-Agape Lodge (dissolved in 1953), Ray and Mildred Burlingame, worked together with Georgina R. (Jean) Brayton (born 29 December 1921) and her husband Richard Montgomery Brayton (born 1911, university lecturer at the University of California) on some of Crowley's O.T.O.-rituals. After Germer's death in 1962, the Brayton group started to call itself Solar Lodge of the O.T.O. or Riverside Lodge of the O.T.O. and was something like a motherless satellite of a dissolved lodge. Neither Burlingame nor the later re-appearing McMurtry possessed the permission either to initiate or to found a new lodge of the O.T.O. It is strictly and explicitly forbidden to initiate or install lodges without permission by a superior, according to the O.T.O. statutes. Members of the Solar Lodge were accused of having ransacked the homes of Sascha Germer, Israel Regardie and Mildred Burlingame in order to collect O.T.O.
[CTRL] Fwd: Iran/Iraq - oil prices
Stratfor.com's Global Intelligence Update - 8 June 2000 __ Know your world. http://www.stratfor.com _ More on Stratfor.com: Vodka and Centralization, Shaken Not Stirred The Kremlin has taken control of Russia's vodka industry both to chip away at regional leaders' power base and to supplement the national budget. The bold move, however, foreshadows even bolder moves - the Kremlin's future usurpation of other profitable industries. http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/0006080124.htm _ Why the Price of Oil Will Likely Remain High Summary Iraq will soon increase oil exports by 700,000 barrels per day, reopening the previously damaged Khor al-Omaia oil terminal. However, illegal Iraqi oil exports depend on Iranian cooperation to find their way to the open waters of the Persian Gulf. As a result, Tehran will soon use its newfound leverage to influence decisions on production and prices at the upcoming meeting of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). If Tehran gets its way, the price of oil will hover at the comparatively high price of about $28 per barrel. Analysis Rafid al-Diboni, director general of Iraq's state-run Southern Oil Company, told the Al-Ilam newspaper June 7 that two of four loading quays at Khor al-Omaia oil terminal have been repaired and will resume operations "soon." Located just west of Iraq's main oil terminal at Mina al-Bakr, Khor al-Omaia was virtually destroyed in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war and damaged again in the 1991 Gulf War. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), repairs began in 1993. When the terminal is fixed, its capacity will near 1.2 million barrels per day (bpd). With two of four loading quays reportedly repaired, Khor al-Omaia should be able to boost exports by 600,000 to 700,000 barrels each day. With current Iraqi production around 2.6 million barrels, such an increase would put Iraq's output near 3.2 - 3.3 million bpd - close to pre-Gulf War levels. Iraq clearly timed its announcement in advance of the next OPEC meeting in Vienna, Austria, in two weeks. There the cartel will decide whether to raise production and lower prices, now at about $28 per barrel. Baghdad probably made its announcement in the hope of swaying the cartel not to raise production quotas; the Iraqi regime is not subject to quotas because of U.N. sanctions dating back to the Gulf War, and Baghdad favors limiting production and propping up prices. Oil smuggling accounts for nearly all of the country's revenues beyond the ceiling set by the U.N. oil-for-food program. Would you like to see full text? http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/giu2000/060800.ASP ___ Iraq is effectively threatening to single-handedly affect the world price of oil. At the June 21 meeting, OPEC members will have to deal with the threat of increased Iraqi oil production. Whether Iraq's claim is true or false, it must be dealt with as a legitimate possibility. A 700,000 bpd increase by Iraq would equal half of the increase - 1.4 million bpd - that OPEC members agreed to in March. But Baghdad is not in control of its own oil shipments. Iraq's archrival, Iran, controls routes to the Persian Gulf. U.S. Navy Vice Adm. Charles Moore, coordinator of the U.S.-led Maritime Interdiction Force, has said that Iran facilitated Iraqi oil smuggling. Two months ago, Tehran suddenly ceased cooperation and began seizing tankers. But on June 1, the Iranian regime apparently resumed its tacit cooperation with smugglers, allowing them to traverse coastal waters. Iran has already demonstrated its willingness to use Iraqi smuggling to its own political benefit, in both relations with OPEC and with the United States. Iran opposed OPEC's March decision to increase production and stabilize prices. Tehran began seizing tankers shortly after the last OPEC meeting, where it withdrew from the cartel's agreement. The cartel's success has depended upon forging a strong political consensus among competing members. Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, along with non-member Mexico, spearheaded the production cuts of March 1999 that, in turn, led to the highest oil prices since the Gulf War. But since Iraq and Iran distanced themselves from the cartel's March decision, OPEC has begun to fracture. The cartel's ability to secure consensus has been severely damaged. ___ For more on the Middle East, see: http://www.stratfor.com/MEAF/default.htm __ Iran will come to Vienna ready to throw its weight around. Iraq wants to export as much oil as possible - that is a given. But Iran effectively controls the level of Iraqi exports. Therefore, the announcement of
[CTRL] What Did the Chinese Communists know about Bill Clinton ... (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:48:34 -0400 From: ML/NJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] I asked this question some time ago. I asked it because it has been clear to me that the Chinese Communists actively supported Bill Clinton in 1992 when he was criticizing President Bush for being to close to the Chinese. Today the TomPaine.com folks came close to addressing this in an op-ed advertisement in the New York Times. The following is the text of their ad from: http://www.tompaine.com/features/2000/06/05/index.html followed by a note I sent them commenting on the ad. -- OUR NYT OP AD: Text IN THE BACKSEAT WITH A BILLIONAIRE: A Story Told Eight Years Later The TomPaine.com Staff . Picture this: A meeting in the backseat of a limousine. A presidential candidate and a mysterious billionaire -- an Indonesian with ties to the Chinese government. The billionaire promises one million dollars for the candidate's fall campaign. What he wants in exchange ... the audience is left to imagine. A scene from a movie about presidents and power? Unfortunately not. This meeting really happened. The candidate: Bill Clinton. The billionaire: James Riady. The date of this encounter makes it interesting. Not 1996 -- the campaign renowned for its Asian money scandal. This meeting happened four years earlier, in 1992, and is related in a new edition of Michael Isikoff's book, Uncovering Clinton. Billionaire Riady made good on his word. Within days of the conversation he arranged the first round of donations. Eventually, his family and associates gave $986,000 -- enough to make them the largest donors to the Democratic Party that year. Bigger than the trial lawyers association. Bigger than the teachers' unions. It's astonishing that we hear this story eight years after the fact. It was a major event in a hard-fought campaign covered by thousands of journalists eager to become the next Woodward or Bernstein. Yet not one uncovered the true source of the largest donations made that year to the Clinton-Gore team. Now think of the coverage lavished on Elian or O.J. No less astonishing -- we still don't know what return Riady asked for or earned for his investment. We may never know. It makes us wonder. ... What promises are flying now between political patrons and the cash-hungry candidates who want to be "public" servants? Will we have to wait eight years to find out? Will we ever know? This week at TomPaine.com -- In the Back Seat with a Billionaire. Featuring excerpts from the new edition of Uncovering Clinton (Three Rivers Press) and documents never before published. - I've been seeing you NYT Op-ed ads and thinking I wanted to check out what you had to say. Today's ad finally caused me to look at you site. The ad says a lot, but it doesn't say enough. It omits an important historical fact. That is that Bill Clinton accused George Bush of "coddling" the Chinese Communists during that 1992. I agreed with that sentiment and it was one of the reasons I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992. George Bush did seem to have a soft spot for the Chinese Communists. The question I would ask is: WHAT DID THE COMMUNIST CHINESE KNOW ABOUT BILL CLINTON IN 1992 THAT AMERICAN VOTERS DID NOT KNOW. It just doesn't make sense that they would dump money into the campaign of someone who was campaigning for a harder line against them. They already had a relatively friendly known quantity in the White House and they helped to defeat him. One other "historical" note. It wasn't just Riady. Charlie Trie was apparently "cultivating" Clinton, while he was Arkansas governor, as the operator of "that Chinese restaurant he liked so much." (Hillary's words) Methinks he is The Manchurian Candidate. (and remember: I voted for him.) ML/NJ = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
[CTRL] DOCS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED WITH CUBA
[You all NEED to check this out! It is a jpg file, so it is not possible to cut an excerpt and I'm too lazy to transcribe it. But, be sure to read at least the 2nd paragraph. --MS] http://www.judicialwatch.org/otherserver/elianemail1.jpg = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as The Gun Owners Home Page
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:46:07 -0400 From: Weldon Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as "The Gun Owners Home Page" New Pro-Gun Website Describes Itself as "The Gun Owners Home Page" FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 7, 2000 You can let the website's name speak for itself or read the message from its executive director below. Regardless, this website represents a vital and useful commitment to our right to own, carry, and use firearms. http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com The executive director of KeepAndBearArms, Angel Shamaya, is totally committed to expanding this new organization and is very certain of it's purpose and value. In his own words, "America has been overrun with ineffective 'feel good' laws that do not feel good at all to the long- suffering gun owners being forced to submit to them. I refuse to let my country lapse into the same ugly complacency that battered Britain and Australia into their disarmed socialist Police States where only the police and the criminals have guns. Americans are being lied to every single day, all across this nation. We aim to set things straight." KeepAndBearArms.com (KABA for short) seems to be doing something right. The pro-gun media campaign organization Citizens Of America (COA, http://www.CitizensOfAmerica.org) often works closely with KABA, and the 50 Million Round March (http://www.50mrmarch.com) just struck an agreement with KABA that could prove immensely beneficial to both. SierraTimes.com is promoting KABA on their home page, and Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America says, "I personally use the news service KABA provides. GOA is in an information business, and KABA has become an extremely important resource for us." COA President Brian Puckett agrees. GOA is advertising on KABA's home page, hoping to attract newly active gun owners to their large and growing organization. Information is KeepAndBearArms.com's specialty, says KABA director Shamaya. Daily news from a growing number of top-notch writers and a host of categorized writings cover a wide variety of stories, all related to the RIGHT to Keep And Bear Arms. KABA is putting out a call to all gun owners to help round up every piece of information gun rights activists need in one central location on the web. "And these days, if you're a gun owner and aren't helping us in the fight to stop the assault against us, you owe it to yourself and your country to get busy." When asked why he and his organization are doing so much work for the cause of freedom, Shamaya says, "Somebody sure has to! Oath-breaking politicians temporarily have the run of our country, and we peaceable gun owners are through being demonized. 83,000,000 of us didn't shoot anybody today or ever. The time to get the TRUTH out to the masses of sleeping gun owners is at hand. It's time to unify." Along with up-to-date information, KeepAndBearArms.com also has auto-emailers that allow gun owners to write a single letter and send it to every legislator in their state. They offer other useful resources including free auctions and classifieds and several other features not yet seen on a gun- related web site. And they aren't all work and no fun: they also have a staff cartoonist whose work is set up as postcards you can email to friends, foes, or the unenlightened. "The key to bringing new people into actively defending liberty is education," says Mr. Shamaya. "Words we have aplenty. But those pictures often say more than any article you'll ever read. Many of the other features are simply services. We want gun owners to have a home on the internet. Sooner or later, every gun owner on the web is going to come see us, and when they give us a chance, they'll stay for good." KABA also offers free email that delivers [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daily Shots that include everything from a daily activist letter and an article of the day to humorous jokes and pictures. They even have a whole section of their site devoted entirely to women. When asked why a section for women, KABA's Director continues, "Women understand women. This nation if filled with American women who reserve their God-given, natural right to self-defense. Providing a forum where women can talk to women gets us men out of the way so they can help other women wake up to the fact that when confronted with an armed criminal, a 'law' is not going to help you one bit." KABA just opened their internet doors on June 1st, but the project has been in development since October through both email news and their .org web site. KABA's webmaster, Robert Proctor, is an award-winning web designer who has built over 600 professional web sites himself and works with a team of people who are good at what they do. Their new, top-of-the-line server is nearly ready for installation, and several additional features of the site not currently on display will be introduced in the next 45 days, including free web space,