Can it be that mail that is saved in my home dir is world readable ?

1998-12-18 Thread shaul
I am using exmh as my MUA.
Can it be that my saved mail is world readable, or did I managed to change the 
permissions without being aware of that ?
Can an exmh user send me the correct permissions ?

[14:20:13 shaul]$ ls -l ~shaul/Mail/hardware/1
-rw-r--r--   1 shaulshaul3321 Dec  9 01:03 
/home/shaul/Mail/hardware/1
[14:20:32 shaul]$




Re: Can it be that mail that is saved in my home dir is world readable ?

1998-12-18 Thread shaul
 shaul wrote:
   I am using exmh as my MUA.
   Can it be that my saved mail is world readable, or did I managed to change 
 t
   he 
   permissions without being aware of that ?
   Can an exmh user send me the correct permissions ?
   
   [14:20:13 shaul]$ ls -l ~shaul/Mail/hardware/1
   -rw-r--r--   1 shaulshaul3321 Dec  9 01:03 
   /home/shaul/Mail/hardware/1
  
 I think mh uses your umask to determine permissions.
 
 However, you can block all access, regardless, by removing permissions
 from your top-level Mail directory:
 
 $ ls -ld Mail
 drwx--  40 olly olly 2048 Dec 18 07:08 Mail
 
 The permissions below this can be as free as you like; no-one except
 myself can descend the tree to access the files.
 

[09:32:35 shaul]$ ls -ld Mail
drwx--x--x  13 shaulmail 1024 Dec 18 09:36 Mail
[13:51:40 shaul]$ 

If I'll change the permissions, will it not be a source of problems ? 
Can someone else that use exmh send me the permissions of his Mail directory ?
Should I file a bug against exmh because of those permissions ?






New IBM sendmail replacement will be free and open source

1998-12-17 Thread shaul
The following appeared on my local LUG group.

--- Forwarded Message

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Peter L. Peres wrote:

 
 http://www.cnn.com/cnnfn/hotstories/deals/wires/9812/14/ibm_wg/

that is none other than Vmailer from Wietse Venema, which other than
having a truely scary name fit for a vampire, has something personal
against Dan Bernstein and Qmail. He's very active on BugTraq, and seems to
know what he's doing most of the time, but his attitude and few errors I
have seen him get caught in, pushed me away from trying Vmailer.

He renamed it Postfix lately, btw, and now it's just titled Secure
Mailer on alphaworks.
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/formula/securemailer

- -- 
Ira Abramov ;  whois:IA58  ;  www.scso.com ;  all around Linux enthusiast 
`When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare
at you blankly and say  Hey, I got those with the system,  *for free*.'
 (Linus Torvalds)






--- End of Forwarded Message






Re: ftping StarOffice in small doses

1998-12-14 Thread shaul
 Hi all,
   I want to download StarOffice but with it being 70Mb I don't fancy 
 having an
 open line for seven hours plus. Does anyone know of an ftp program that can 
 download
 in chunks at a time and doesn't mind frequent interruptions. I think in the 
 past someone 
 mentioned 'cftp' but I can't find any information on that.

I think that wget might help.




Presort my email messages when exmh is the MUA.

1998-12-14 Thread shaul
I am using exmh to handle my email (MUA ?). The MTA is smail (is it also the 
MDA ? What are the differences between MDA and MTA ?).
I want to presort my email messages.
Can you recommend a way to do it (procmail ? exmh capabilities for this task, 
if it got any ? other ?). Is the proposed way a popular one ? Is there a 
HOWTO, or similar staff, that explain how to do it ?

Thank you.







Re: vgetty info.

1998-12-14 Thread shaul
1) Check out /usr/doc/mgetty-*, assuming you installed some mgetty-* packages.
2) Try asking on mgetty mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Great mailing list. 
but 
remember that they want you to read the documentation first.
3) Please report back to this list. Thank you. 

 I'm looking for information about vgetty.  Does anyone know if there is
 a homepage for it?  Also what modems does it support?  Anyone have real
 world experiance with it?
 





Re: Why sudo does it ?

1998-12-14 Thread shaul
 On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, shaul wrote:
 
  [01:53:38 shaul]$ sudo -l
  You may run the following commands on this host:
  (root) /sbin/halt
  (root) /sbin/shutdown -r now
  (root) /sbin/shutdown -h now
  [01:55:14 shaul]$ sudo reboot
  Sorry, user shaul is not allowed to execute /sbin/reboot as root on 
  rakefet.
 
 I'm guessing that reboot != shutdown -r now.  Try running:
 sudo shutdown -r now
 

It didn't work. Apparently my problem was the line
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN=/sbin/shutdown -r now
which I assumed that will let me do what I want.

After reading your response, I changed my sudoers file. Currently, it is:

[16:57:12 shaul]# cat /etc/sudoers 
# sudoers file (/etc/sudoers).
#
# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
#
# See the man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file.
#

# Host alias specification

# User alias specification

##
# Cmnd alias specification
##
Cmnd_Alias  HALT=/sbin/halt

##
# User privilege specification
##

# root can run anything on any machine as any user
rootALL=(ALL) ALL

# shaul may run these commands:
shaul   ALL=HALT, /sbin/shutdown -[hr] now
[16:59:15 shaul]# exit  
[17:00:53 shaul]$ sudo -l

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these two things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.

Password: 
You may run the following commands on this host:
(root) /sbin/halt
(root) /sbin/shutdown -[hr] now
[17:01:56 shaul]$ 






Why sudo does it ?

1998-12-11 Thread shaul
[01:50:34 shaul]# cat /etc/sudoers
# sudoers file (/etc/sudoers).
#
# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
#
# See the man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file.
#

# Host alias specification

# User alias specification

##
# Cmnd alias specification
##
Cmnd_Alias  HALT=/sbin/halt
Cmnd_Alias  REBOOT=/sbin/shutdown -r now
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN=/sbin/shutdown -h now

##
# User privilege specification
##

# root can run anything on any machine as any user
rootALL=(ALL) ALL

# shaul may run these commands:
shaul   ALL=HALT,REBOOT,SHUTDOWN
[01:51:33 shaul]# exit
[01:53:38 shaul]$ sudo -l
You may run the following commands on this host:
(root) /sbin/halt
(root) /sbin/shutdown -r now
(root) /sbin/shutdown -h now
[01:55:05 shaul]$ sudo rebbot
sudo: rebbot: command not found
[01:55:14 shaul]$ sudo reboot
Sorry, user shaul is not allowed to execute /sbin/reboot as root on rakefet.

[01:55:21 shaul]$ 

BTW: My sudo group is empty, if that matter.





Re: terminal window

1998-12-09 Thread shaul
1) I never used pppconfig but I think it strange that username/password is all 
it can handle.
2) Perhaps configure the chatscript by hand ?
3) xisp has the ability to open a terminal. But then again, I never needed 
this terminal.

 hello
 I need to open a terminal window for my dial-up ppp connection. I have
 to pass more than just the username/password. I used pppconfig, but it
 wasn't enough for the extras.  How do I open a terminal window for
 dial-up connections?
 thanks


Re: Compress

1998-11-30 Thread shaul
 Anyone know where I can get 'compress' program?

Can't answer your question, but:
1) Take a look at the ncompress package (from non-free).
2) Try an Internet search engine.

Hope this help. 





Re: How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-30 Thread shaul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes:
 
  It seems to me that you are wrong, since when new packages are installed, 
  update-menus considers the users who run update-menus as well.
  I am saying that on the basis of the following lines (from 
  /usr/doc/menu/html/ch5.html):
 
 [snip]
 
  Am I right ?
 
 One of us should just try it and see.
 

I am wrong. I just tried it (unless there is some cron script, or something 
else, that I couldn't find although I looked for). The users customizations do 
not get updated even when the sytem menu does.

 But the reason I don't think it will update individual users' menus is 
 that when I run it, all the menus get put in ~/.fvwm2/whatever.
 When root runs it, the menus go into /etc/X11/fvwm2/whatever.  If
 something changes because a new package is installed, the files in
 /etc/X11/fvwm2/ will be changed, but the old files in ~/.fvwm2/ will
 still contain the old data, and will override the new data, until that 
 user runs update-menus again.
 

Should this behavior of the update-menus be changed ? Perhaps update-menus 
should keep a list of the users that run it on their home dir ?
As a first step, perhaps users (at least those with a menu customizations) 
should be email-ed to let them know that the system menu has been changed ?

BTW:
1) Is it my bad English, or does /usr/doc/menu/html/ch5.html indeed imply that 
users customizations are getting updated in these circumstances ?

2) Maybe dpkg should automatically email-ed all the users about software 
changes ? (which will be added to the long list of dpkg wishes)




Re: Contents file?

1998-11-26 Thread shaul
I think that you are right. The Contents file should be included. 

 Is the Contents file going to make a re-appearance in the next Debian
 release?  If not, I would like to request that that be reconsidered.
 I am seeing more and more posts asking where some utility is located,
 but this could be easily answered if Debian had the Contents file to
 quickly look it up.  (Why was it removed in the 2.0 release anyways?)
 -- 





Re: How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-26 Thread shaul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes:
 
  Thank you. How a user can set it for himself ? (It seems to me that menu 
  offers a way to do it, only I couldn't understand how)
 
 He can put it in ~/.menu/lyx and run update-menus himself, which will
 create all the files for just that account.  However, I don't think
 anything will get changed automatically for that user when new
 packages are installled.
 

It seems to me that you are wrong, since when new packages are installed, 
update-menus considers the users who run update-menus as well.
I am saying that on the basis of the following lines (from 
/usr/doc/menu/html/ch5.html):

Start quoting 

Debian Menu System - chapter 5
The internals of the menu package 

5.1 The update-menus program 

On startup, update-menus checks the file /var/run/update-menus.pid
and the pid in it. If there's an update-menus process with that pid it kills 
it. If
/var/lib/dpkg/lock exists, it forks to background and returns control to
dpkg. The background process checks the /var/lib/dpkg/lock file approx.
every second until the file's gone. 

After that, the following steps are performed: 

  1.sets a variable $dirs to 

  dirs=/etc/menu /usr/lib/menu /usr/lib/menu/default

(and if a user runs prgn/update-menus/, it will add ~/.menu to the front of
that list)

  2.it reads the list of installed packages

  3.  for d in $dirs; do

 End quoting.

Am I right ?




Re: PPP problems

1998-11-25 Thread shaul
I don't know what is wrong, but I suspect that the chat script is the source 
of your troubles.
To check it, try connecting your ISP with minicon.
Also, send the list the chat file and ppp's log for more help.

 Hi all
 
 After running pppconfig and running pppd provider (where provider is the
 name of the file created by pppconfig), I get the following results (from
 tail -f /var/log/messages):
 
 CONNECT stuff and so
 .
 expect (ogin: login_name)
  19200^M
 ^M
 NO CARRIER
 --failed
 Failed (NO CARRIER)
 Exit.
 PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 






Re: How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-24 Thread shaul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes:
 
  My /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook has the following entry for lyx:
  
  [23:36:37 shaul]$ grep lyx /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook 
  + lyx Exec/usr/X11R6/bin/lyx
  [23:38:51 shaul]
  
  I want to change it to 
  
  + lyx Exec /usr/X11R6/bin/lyx -width 631 -height 461
 
 To change it for all users:
 
 $ su
 Password:
 # cp /usr/lib/menu/lyx /etc/menu/
 # edit /etc/menu/lyx
   [ Make the change. ]
 # update-menus
 # ^D
 $ 
 
Thank you. How a user can set it for himself ? (It seems to me that menu 
offers a way to do it, only I couldn't understand how)




Re: how can i install internet via a modem under linux?

1998-11-22 Thread shaul
 how can i install internet via a modem under linux?
 please help me
 thanks for the answer
 

Take a look at the pppconfig package.




How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-21 Thread shaul
My /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook has the following entry for lyx:

[23:36:37 shaul]$ grep lyx /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook 
+ lyx Exec/usr/X11R6/bin/lyx
[23:38:51 shaul]

I want to change it to 

+ lyx Exec /usr/X11R6/bin/lyx -width 631 -height 461

I tried to create a ~fvwm2/post.hook with that line. Which works.
But now my menu has to entries for lyx. The first one is the old entry, the 
one without the -width customization. And the second one is what I added.

How to get rid of / modify the original entry ?

Thank you.




Re: which fax?

1998-11-11 Thread shaul
Can't answer your question, but want to point out that the mgetty-docs package 
is a good source for find out about mgetty abilities (although it is not 
completely up to date as far as I can tell).

 Hello,
 
 Which fax sending/receiving package should I get, please? efax,
 mgetty or ?
 
 Are there any advantages or disadvantages to one or the other?
 
 I have a generic faxmodem. If I'd be able to serve it as a PostScript
 (or other) printer to a Windows box, that'd be nice (I have samba
 working OK), but I can configure that easily even if the package
 doesn't support it. I run hamm.
 
 
 And, lastly, is there a better way to find out than asking on here?
 The descriptions in the packages aren't particularly enlightening as
 far as comparison of packages is concerned...
 
 Thank you
 




Re: Smail configurationg (wrong from)

1998-11-08 Thread shaul
I am using exmh, and for this reason I can't help you with mutt (I didn't even 
tried to use mutt). Sorry.

I think I had the same problem that you have with exmh as well, but someone on 
debian-user showed me how to bypass it and that is what I am doing. If you 
like I can send you his letter. His bypass is not a complete solution since it 
does produce some errors, but it seems that these errors are not preventing me 
from sending and receiving email.

   Hi Sahul,
   I tried your sugestion but it fails to send any e-mail.
   Anyway, I perceived that the problem is with mutt because when I send 
 an e-mail with elm there is no problem.
   Do you use mutt?
   Can you help me?
   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
 
 On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 10:46:14PM +0200, shaul wrote:
  There are instructions for configuring smail to rewrite your From field, in
  the Debian FAQOMATIC (Courtesy of Daniel Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] ):
  
  http://www.debian.org/fom/137.html
  
 Hi Debian users,
 I'm using smail as my MTA and I have a problem:
 when sending a mail the from is jaca.cos.ufrj.br and not cos.ufrj.br as 
   desired. I used smailconfig, selected the third option and put the server 
   machine name (rio.cos.ufrj.br) and the from as desired cos.ufrj.br.
 Then I tried other mail and the problem persist.
 Have I to restart some service?
 Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
   
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Smail configurationg (wrong from)

1998-11-02 Thread shaul
There are instructions for configuring smail to rewrite your From field, in
the Debian FAQOMATIC (Courtesy of Daniel Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] ):

http://www.debian.org/fom/137.html

   Hi Debian users,
   I'm using smail as my MTA and I have a problem:
   when sending a mail the from is jaca.cos.ufrj.br and not cos.ufrj.br as 
 desired. I used smailconfig, selected the third option and put the server 
 machine name (rio.cos.ufrj.br) and the from as desired cos.ufrj.br.
   Then I tried other mail and the problem persist.
   Have I to restart some service?
   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
 





Re: mgetty prevents calls

1998-11-02 Thread shaul
I believe that your problem is that your ppp configuration uses /dev/modem, 
and mgetty uses /dev/ttyS0.
My suggestion for you is to get rid of the /dev/modem stuff, as it is causing 
problems with locking the devie (the modem). See mgetty's documentation for 
more details.
Simply using /dev/ttyS0 (assuming this is where your modem is), instead of 
/dev/modem, might solved your problem.

 This is the first time I have used the list so I hope I don't make a
 major faux paux.
 
 I have mgetty 1.1.14-2 on a 2.0 box and am having a strange problem.
 With the mgetty statement commented out in the inittab, ppp will dail
 out and connect just fine.  With the mgetty statement not commented out
 ppp fails as per the script below:
 
 Oct 22 16:08:27 fashion pppd[18300]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: abort on (BUSY)
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: abort on (VOICE)
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: send (ATDT2523698^M)
 Oct 22 16:08:28 fashion chat[18301]: expect (ogin)
 Oct 22 16:08:47 fashion chat[18301]: ATDT2523698^M^M
 Oct 22 16:08:47 fashion chat[18301]: CONNECT 38400^M
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: ^M
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: ^M
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: login
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]:  -- got it
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: send (Pxxx^M)
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: expect (word)
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: : Pxxx^M
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: Password
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]:  -- got it
 Oct 22 16:08:49 fashion chat[18301]: send (??)
 Oct 22 16:08:50 fashion pppd[18300]: Serial connection established.
 Oct 22 16:08:51 fashion pppd[18300]: Using interface ppp0
 Oct 22 16:08:51 fashion pppd[18300]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem
 Oct 22 16:08:54 fashion pppd[18300]: Cannot determine ethernet address
 for proxy ARP
 Oct 22 16:08:54 fashion pppd[18300]: local  IP address 207.170.232.137
 Oct 22 16:08:54 fashion pppd[18300]: remote IP address 207.170.232.4
 Oct 22 16:12:50 fashion pppd[18300]: Terminating on signal 15.
 Oct 22 16:12:50 fashion pppd[18300]: Connection terminated.
 Oct 22 16:12:50 fashion pppd[18300]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
 Oct 22 16:12:50 fashion pppd[18300]: Exit.
 
 The lines in the inittab I have used are:
 T0:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS0
 and
 S0:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS0
 and some varitations of the above.
 
 Can anyone help me figure out what is going on?  I'm assuming I have a
 mgetty problem and not a ppp problem, but I've been wrong before.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Dennis Runolfson
 
 
 
 
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Re: debian list archives under netscape

1998-10-26 Thread shaul
Happend to me too with communicator-pro-v406-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0-glibc2
.tar.gz.
I think it was when I had 2 netscape windows opened and netscape had the wrong 
impression that I am trying to copy something from one of them.

BTW: A search mechanism on the subject field would help us not to need to see 
the whole list before finding some relevant data.

 Hi,
 
 I have experienced problems with netscape freezing up when accessing
 debian's mailing list archives (debian-user, debian-development).
 This has happened intermittently with every netscape version I have
 used as far back as I can remember.  I have never known where the 
 problem really is (my setup, netscape, debian web server).  I just
 installed 4.5b2 from slink and finally decided to see if anyone
 else has the same problem.  
 
 What happens is that sometimes, clicking on the month tag (say Oct)
 starts to download and it gets only part way.  Netscape then displays
 that little clock like it is downloading but it never finishes.  It
 also never lets me do anything else.  Completely frozen.  I have to
 kill it and then remove the lock file by hand.  This occurs on multiple
 computers all running debian.  Anyone know why?
 
 Also, if I get the listings downloaded and read a particular entry,
 when I click on back it always reloads the whole list.  I have not
 disabled caching so I assume it has something to do with the way the
 list is setup on the server.  Is this normal?  The page for a whole
 month gets large quickly so it would be really nice to cache it
 during any given session.
 
 I would file a bug report if I could figure out that a bug exists and
 in which package.  It may well be my fault somehow.
 
 thanks,
 Stuart
 
 
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Re: mgetty-fax and printing faxes

1998-10-26 Thread shaul
Maybe mgetty mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) can help you ? 
(They want you to make sure that the docs doesn't answer your problem before 
you post).

Hope this help. 




Re: GDB and ADA.

1998-10-22 Thread shaul
  What is the best way to have hamm system support debugging of ADA programs 
  in 
  gdb ?
 
 Install the slink version of gdb, try if it works; if it doesn't, submit a
 useful bug report.
 

dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/devel/gdb_4.17-4.m68k.objc.threads.hwwp.fpu.gn
at.deb

 Note the gnat in there.

[23:02:45 shaul]$ zcat /usr/doc/gdb/changelog.Debian.gz | head -n 16 | tail 

  * re-integrated gnat support.
(Was repported as a bug against 4.16, patch had been integrated then,
but dropped while switching to version 4.17).
(NB: Not being an ADA expert, I'd appreciate if s/o could confirm
it now works properly, thanx)

 -- Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri,  3 Jul 1998 18:46:28 +0200

[23:03:05 shaul]$ 

I am only at the beginning of my ADA course, and my gdb knowledge is limited 
to the basic operations. But it seems to me that gdb support for ADA is 
working (at least the basic functionality). Please note that I didn't 
thoroughly test it, though. I'll submit a bug report if I'll encounter one.

-- System Information
Package: gdb
Version: 4.17-4.m68k.objc.threads.hwwp.fpu.gnat

Debian Release: 2.0
Kernel Version: Linux rakefet 2.0.34 #2 Thu Jul 9 10:57:48 EST 1998 i586 
unknown

Versions of the packages gdb depends on:
ii  libc6   2.0.7t-1   The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii  libreadlineg2   2.1-10.1   GNU readline and history libraries, run-time
ii  ncurses3.4  1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - shared librari





Re: ppp vs windows dialup networking

1998-10-21 Thread shaul
 when I connect to my isp in windows I get a dialog box showing the
 progress of the connection.  It finally reports the connection speed
 that the modem achieved.  Is there any way to get this information
 when connecting via ppp?
 

Try xisp (you'll need X for it).





Re: GDB and ADA.

1998-10-18 Thread shaul
I tried to look for slink's gdb. All I could find is some m68k staff. (I did 
find some relevant lines in Contents-i386.gz) What did I miss ?

 
  What is the best way to have hamm system support debugging of ADA programs 
  in 
  gdb ?
 
 Install the slink version of gdb, try if it works; if it doesn't, submit a
 useful bug report.
 





Re: Debian's recommendation for the size of the swap.

1998-10-16 Thread shaul
 If anyone is taking a survery...
 My machine also has 64M or ram, and I am using 128M of swap space (I
 figured with a 5.4GB drive I'd max out the swap partition.)
 
I am curious if that size of swap is realy needed: could you email the results 
of a free command ?

Thank you. 






Re: Debian's recommendation for the size of the swap.

1998-10-16 Thread shaul
 On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 11:34:16PM +0300, shaul wrote:
  (1) Linux accept up to 128MB for a single swap partition (2) There is (was) 
  a 
  rule of thumb to have a swap size as twice as the RAM the machine has (3) 
  Having more RAM reduces the needs for swap.
 
 ya konw, i'm a little confused. people say more RAM reduce the needs for swap
 while swap is recommended for double size of RAM ? yeah, newbia i am :-P
 

[01:30:15 shaul]$ grep -A18 Your swap partition /cdrom/install.txt 
  Your swap partition will be used to  provide virtual memory for
  the system and should be between 16 and  128 megabytes in size,
  depending on how  much disk space you  have and how  many large

  programs you want to run.   The old rule of thumb is  that swap
  should be  twice as big  as the amount  of physical memory  you
  have available.  Once  you get past the  32MB of RAM  mark, you
  shouldn't make your  swap partition more  than 1.5 bigger  than
  the amount of RAM.  Linux will not use more than  128 megabytes
  of swap  on a single  swap partition, so  there's no reason  to
  make your  swap partition  larger than that.  However, you  can
  make multiple swap partitions  by hand and edit  /etc/fstab af-
  ter you've installed  to get more  than 128 megabytes  of swap.
  A swap partition is strongly recommended, but  you can do with-

  out one  if you insist,  and if  your system  has more than  16
  megabytes of RAM. If you wish to do this,  please select the Do
  Without a Swap Partition item from the menu.

[01:30:27 shaul]$ 


  Does all this make sense ?
  Perhaps Debian should make a small survey among its users about the size of 
  the swap size they are using ?
 
 i'm currently use 12M swap with 64M RAM, is it too few ?

Well, IMHO it is too small. 
I wonder, could you send what free reports when your machine runs your usual 
apps?

 i feel ugly when open *guash*, and xemacs and netscape opened very slowly. i
 only have 2G hd, and 750M among it is spared for win98 'cause i need its
 support for chinese stuff.

Will it get quicker if you'll create a swap file ?  
 
 --zhaoway
 
 the exactly 9th registerd linux user in counter.li.org
 
 
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Re: LaTeX book

1998-10-15 Thread shaul
Not a book but might be helpful:

http://bluesky.ecas.ou.edu/~bfiedler/tips/latex.html
ftp://granroth.ml.org/pub/Latex/short_intro.ps

Also, take a look at lyx.

 Dear all,
 
   Can anyone recommend a good one of these, please? Mainly for
 scientific writing...
 




Why having the . at the end of someone's PATH is a security ?

1998-10-14 Thread shaul
 There shouldn't be a . in your PATH; even at the end, it's a
 security risk. 

Why ? How it can be exploited ?




GDB and ADA.

1998-10-14 Thread shaul
It seems to me that hamm's version of gdb doesn't support debugging of ADA 
programs.
Will that be changed in slink?
cs.nyu.edu/pub/gnat/gdb has gdb-4.16.gnat.1.12.diff.gz and 
gdb-4.16.gnat.1.13.diff.gz. Are they usable for hamm's gdb (4.17) ?
Since the latest gnat version is 3.10, what does the 1.1? on the above files' 
name stand for ?
What is the best way to have hamm system support debugging of ADA programs in 
gdb ? Did bo's gdb supported debugging of ADA programs ?






Debian's recommendation for the size of the swap.

1998-10-14 Thread shaul
Debian's recommends (in its FAQ and the installation guide) to have about 50MB 
of swap file.
I am using 50MB only as a representative number. I know it is also saying that 
(1) Linux accept up to 128MB for a single swap partition (2) There is (was) a 
rule of thumb to have a swap size as twice as the RAM the machine has (3) 
Having more RAM reduces the needs for swap.

I think that this recommendation should be raise to the full 128MB that Linux 
accept for a single swap size, together with the saying that it can work with 
much less swap, that it is hard to determine a single number when almost each 
installation is different on its use and future needs, etc.
My reasons are:
1) Application are getting bigger in their memory needs (netscape, xemacs, 
image proccessing, and more). And the rate that the applications are getting 
bigger seems to exceed the rate the memory chips are getting larger and 
cheaper.
2) Disk sizes are getting larger, so sparing as much as 128MB for swap size 
today is much less painfull and much more cheaper then sparing 50MB couple of 
years ago.
3) Resizing disks partitions when someone needs more swap is a problmatic 
process, and using swap files are not recommended.
4) Restaring an application seems to require more and more time. 

While saying all that, I am taking my machine a an example:

[07:04:06 shaul]$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 38344  37732612  17868208   8984
-/+ buffers/cache:  28540   9804
Swap:48380  43608   4772
[20:15:17 shaul]$ 

My machine is used as a desktop computer for a single user. It has only modem 
connection to the internet. Still, it uses a considerable amount of its memory 
resources. Then what am I doing with all that memory resources ?
The answer is that I am using a 3x3 pages on my display, and tend to keep the 
programs open on one page while I am switching to another. I find it more 
comfortable to switch to a different display page then to use one page and 
open and close the programs that I want. Therefor, I am using simultansiouly 
a total of about 6 xterms (about one for each display page), one copy of 
netscape, one xemacs window, one DDD window, and 3 TkMan windows.
A little experiment that I did show (?) that iconifying most of these windows 
has little effect on the memory usage.

Does all this make sense ?
Perhaps Debian should make a small survey among its users about the size of 
the swap size they are using ?











exmh : audio/basic for all kinds of files ?

1998-10-08 Thread shaul
Whenever I am trying to attach a file to a message using exmh, it says that 
its default type is audio/basic.
When I used to do the same thing under bo, it used to show the correct type of 
the file.
does anybody else exprienced it ?
Is it a matter of some settings that has to be changed ?
I tried to delete all the entries that mention audio from my /etc/mailcap (by 
editing the file), but it didn't help.
I think it is worth mentioning that I don't have a sound card. 

Thank you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: moving / sda4 -- sdb1

1998-10-06 Thread shaul
Perhaps the /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.gz could help ?

 greetings,
 
 I need to move debian from drive 1 to drive 2 ( just deep sixed NT ;0)
 ), what are the steps necessary.
 
 Thus far i have done a copy using mc ( skipping proc of course ),
 modified lilo, fstab.
 boots ok gets to checking the new sdb1 then it proceeds to run from
 the old partition sda4, i guess i missed some essentials steps
 somewhere.
 So thats on hold for now :(, will continue RTFM's etc, any help
 appreciated.
 The upside is i have worked out how to give doom its virtual graphics
 capable console so now for some stress relief :).
 
 Thanx




exmh and the From field.

1998-10-03 Thread shaul
From time to time I am still trying to convince exmh to use the login and 
address of my ISP's account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Couple of days ago I run into something relevant from exmh help. It is written 
in /usr/lib/exmh/html/ppp.howto.html
Start quoting:
  

ABOUT SETTING UP MAIL ON PPP-CONNECTED DIALUP MACHINES.
===

# This howto is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,#
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of   #
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. #

This howto is for you if you have a Linux machine that does not have a
permanent internet connection but rather uses dialup PPP to connect to
your internet service provider. A common problem is how to masquerade as
your ISP's mailhost to get

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

instead of

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Another problem is how to send and receive mail.

0.) Fixing MH 
=
You just need to add two lines to your MH mail transport configuration
file.  For original MH this file is called mtstailor (typically
installed in /usr/local/lib/mh).  For nmh it is mts.conf (typically
installed in /usr/local/nmh/etc).  In either case you put in two
entries: localname defines the machine name used in From: lines,
clientname the machine name used in the SMTP HELO header.
(If you don't put a clientname entry then localname gets used, which
may make your SMTP server unhappy if it tries to verify HELO.)

For example, I have:

localname:  sss.pgh.pa.us
clientname: sss.sss.pgh.pa.us

 
End quoting.

Trying to follow what it says, I added the following 2 lines to 
/etc/mh/mtstailor:

localname:  rakefet
clientname: mail.inter.net.il

But it didn't give me the correct From field. 
Some lines from smail's log are:

10/02/1998 23:17:25: remote EHLO: questionable operand: 'mail.inter.net.il': 
fro
m [EMAIL PROTECTED](rakefet) source [127.0.0.1]: Host name does not 
match
remote address.
10/02/1998 23:17:25: [m0zPBdl-0002ARC] Received FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
HOST:mail.int
er.net.il(rakefet)[127.0.0.1] PROTOCOL:esmtp PROGRAM:in.smtpd SIZE:1567 
IDENT:sh
aul ID-METHOD:rfc1413
10/02/1998 23:17:29: [m0zPBdl-0002ARC] Delivered VIA:mail.inter.net.il 
TO:linux-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il ROUTER:smart_host 
TRANSPORT:sm
tp
10/02/1998 23:17:29: [m0zPBdl-0002ARC] Delivered VIA:mail.inter.net.il 
TO:alex_d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ROUTER:smart
_host TRANSPORT:smtp
10/02/1998 23:17:29: [m0zPBdl-0002ARC] Completed.
10/02/1998 23:17:31: remote EHLO: questionable operand: 'rakefet': from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kefet(rakefet) source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'.
10/02/1998 23:17:31: [m0zPBdr-0002ARC] Received FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r
g HOST:rakefet[127.0.0.1] PROTOCOL:esmtp PROGRAM:in.smtpd 
ORIG-ID:DX6_RD.A.XYB
.3R-E2@murphy SIZE:1914 IDENT:shaul ID-METHOD:rfc1413
10/02/1998 23:17:32: [m0zPBdr-0002ASC] Received FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
o
rg HOST:rakefet[127.0.0.1] PROTOCOL:esmtp PROGRAM:in.smtpd 
ORIG-ID:NCTSo.A.b-B
.jd-E2@murphy SIZE:2730 IDENT:shaul ID-METHOD:rfc1413


As an alternative, the above help says that:

Continue quoting:

  

If you do step 0 then you probably do not have to setup sendmail masquerading.

1.) Setting up sendmail for masquerading


If you don't use sendmail, you're on your own. If you're using sendmail,
all you need to do is to replace your /etc/sendmail.cf with a new
sendmail.cf that you generate using the m4 files that come with any
(newer) sendmail source distribution.

In that distribution you'll find directories ./cf/cf, ./cf/domain,
../cf/feature, ... You first have to create an m4 config file for your
host. The file ./cf/README explains how to do that. If you don't want to
read it, here is a quick start with an m4 config file (myhost.mc) that
should be appropriate in most cases (if you don't use procmail, delete
the lines regarding procmail; BTW, redhat 4.2 uses procmail):

# myhost.mc
VERSIONID(`Put here some free text describing the version of this config file')
OSTYPE(linux)
DOMAIN(generic)
define(`SMART_HOST', `myispmailhost.com')dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)
MASQUERADE_AS(myispdomain)
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
define(`confCOPY_ERRORS_TO',`mylocalloginname')dnl
FEATURE(nouucp)
FEATURE(local_procmail)
MAILER(local)
MAILER(smtp)
MAILER(procmail)

In many cases, myispmailhost.com and myispdomain are the same:

Myispmailhost is the host that accepts SMTP connections on tcp port 25
and acts as a mail relay to the outer world (smart host). Very often
the name of a PPP connected machine does not have a valid entry in
DNS (domain name service), i.e. other machines that try to determine
your IP address using your hostname will get an error. Some domains
(notably AOL) won't accept mail from your host if they get such an
error. Therefore, you need to use a mail 

Re: Tin hangs on Debian 2.0

1998-10-02 Thread shaul
I am using tin_980226-3.deb on Debian 2.0.
I can read news, but I can't post because of some 7/8 bit matter which I 
didn't look into.
Few days ago there was someone asking on this list about this 7/8 bit matter. 
I think he is using it under Hamm too.

 I installed a fresh Debian 2.0 system via FTP. The tin newsreader shows
 the groups available, but when I press Enter to see the headers, the
 program hangs.
 
 I found this problem on two different systems.
 
 I fixed the problem by purging tin_980226-3.deb and installing the old
 version from a Debian 1.3.1 CD-ROM. The old package is tin_97.03.21-1.deb
 which required the old lib ncurses3.0.
 
 I noticed that tin has moved from the main directory to the non-free, does
 this mean something? 
 
 Is there anybody using the new tin on a new 2.0 Debian?
 




I Don't recieve the Prospective needed and work ... ?

1998-10-02 Thread shaul
It's been a long time since I recieved the Prospective needed and work ... 
email.
Is it steel being automatically mailed from time to time ?




Re: unable to connect to ttyS1

1998-10-01 Thread shaul
Perhaps your modem is a PLUG and PLAY modem or a winmodem of some thought ?

 Hi.  I'm currently running a Debian 1.3 system, and I'm working on putting
 together a Hamm system to replace it.  I'm trying to get a ppp connection
 running on an external modem plugged into COM2 of the Hamm system and I'm
 having no luck.
 
 First, I defined the connection and then 'pon' to start the connection.  
 No dice.  /var/log/ppp.log contained the following lines:
 
 pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
 tcgetattr: input/output error (5)
 Exit.
 
 Ok, I went back a few steps.  I pulled down the PPP-HowTo and slog
 through the advice it has (which isn't 100% the same as the default Hamm
 setup).  I discovered that using Minicom, I didn't get any response to AT
 commands sent to /dev/ttyS1.
 
 I rebooted the system and use Lilo to boot MS-Dog.  Kermit saw a modem on
 COM2 and I was even able to use it to dial my ISP and transfer some more
 stuff to my new system.  So the modem/serial port/phone line *do* work.
 
 Back to Linux (stopping by the BIOS setup on the way to note COM2's I/O
 address and IRQ: 2f8, IRQ 3).  I did a 'setserial /dev/ttyS1':
 
 /dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
 
 I searched the mailing lists, and everybody else who was having similar
 problems was using Plug-n-Pray internal modems.  No responses seemed to
 apply to a built-in serial port.
 
 So I'm stumped.  I'm guessing it's a conflict of some kind, but it's a
 little too subtle for my experience level.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 



_POSTSCRIPT_ versions of the GNAT documantaion

1998-10-01 Thread shaul
From where can I download _POSTSCRIPT_ versions of the GNAT documantaion (such 
as the GNAT User's Guide, GNAT Reference Manual) ?

Thank you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: tin charset problem

1998-10-01 Thread shaul
 Has anyone ever seem this error from tin?
 
 Error: Bad charset for non-7bit encoding (must not be us-ascii)
 
 I consistently get this error and it won't let me post because of it.
 

I am getting it, and I still hadn't look into it.

I am not sure but I think that in the last few weeks this problem has been 
raised, and probably discussed, on this list more then once.




Re: PPP problem.

1998-09-25 Thread shaul
No /etc/resolv.conf is necessary if you have BIND installed (and no network is 
permanently connected to the machine ?)

 
  SYZ == Shao Ying Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 SYZ The system dialed out fine. And ping was working fine.
 SYZ But telnet, ftp  lynx does not work. My /etc/resolve.conf does
 SYZ not contain anything, and it is empty in redhat anway...
 
 But it should.
 
 /etc/resolv.conf
 nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  # IP of ISP's first DNS
 nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy  # IP of ISP's second DNS
 
 /etc/host.conf
 order hosts, bind
 multi on
 




Re: chown for the floppy group

1998-09-23 Thread shaul
 You can also add a line to /etc/fstab for /dev/fd0  with options to
 set to user access without mounting the disk.  That way anyone may
 mount a floppy.
 -

Can you be more specific ? That is, what line can be added to /etc/fstab to 
achieve it ?




/usr/lib/X11 vs. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11

1998-09-22 Thread shaul
These 2 directories (/usr/lib/X11 and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11) seems to me an exact 
copy of each other. I could not find any link between them.
Can I rm --force --recursive --verbose /usr/lib/X11 ?
And if not, why ?
What are the possible explanations that I have 2 copies of the same directory ?
Are there any other files or directories that are duplicated somewhere else on 
my system ?




Re: How to get rid of the motd

1998-09-22 Thread shaul
You have to touch .hushlogin.

[04:43:35 shaul]$ man login

LOGIN(1) LOGIN(1)

NAME
   login - Begin session on the system

SYNOPSIS
   login [username [environmental-variables]]

DESCRIPTION
   login  is used to establish a new session with the system.

. . .

   for more information.

   After a successful login, you will be informed of any sys­
   tem messages and the presence of mail.  You may  turn  off
   the  printing  of  the  system message file, /etc/motd, by
   creating a  zero-length  file  .hushlogin  in  your  login
   directory.   The mail message will be one of You have new

 This certainly isn't a serious problem, but I've been a little perplexed
 at not being able to get rid of the little blurb about Debian/GNU
 software not being responsible for your machine blowing up, blah, blah,
 blah that appears directly after login.  Any ideas would be greatly
 appreciated.
 




Re: Rescue Disk

1998-09-20 Thread shaul
I think that in most cases simply dd the approptaite file will do.

dd if=resc1440.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 conv=sync ; sync 

 Can anyone tell me the correct procedure for creating a rescue disk after
 installation.
 I had a problem with my floppy during the install and it could not create
 one, now
 the floppy is fixed and I would like to make one. Thanks in advance.









Re: How to start PPP?

1998-09-19 Thread shaul
 Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help.

I think you are too hasty about it. In general, documantation is not easy to 
read and understand, but it is a great source for help.

As for your problem:
1) Check Debian's FAQ-O-MATIC. I don't know what it has but I think there is 
relevant info.
2) Try to test the connection as root. Permitions problems are quite common 
and testing the connection as root helps to examine them.
3) Try to cahnge the references from /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS1 (if your modem 
on COM2, /dev/ttyS2 if it is on COM3, etc).
4) Have a look at the relevant log lines abd see if that help you focous on 
the problem.
5) Install minicom and see if you can call your ISP with it, and what is their 
response.
6) Mail the list if you need further help. Attaching the relevant log file 
lines is desirable.
 
 
 I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the
 floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a
 connection named bub. I haven't found any documentation that tells me how
 to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or
 pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc.
 
 I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the
 provider connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the
 provider files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message
 about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub
 (which is what I would have thought would've used the bub connection),
 all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then
 returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything.
 
 Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks!
 
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Re: unmounting bad floppy

1998-09-18 Thread shaul
 
 is there a way to force an unmount of a bad floppy?  It failed to 
 mount, and has gotten the idea that something is open.  Is there 
 anythign short of rebooting, or can i even try to reboot?
 

Can it be that a bad cdrom has the same problem ?
I have encountered situations when, after I had problems with a CD, I couldn't 
mount another one. The error was something like : cdrom is busy or mounted.
Although the previous CD was unmounted.






Re: printing takes hours in HAMM

1998-09-18 Thread shaul
 According to  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
After upgrading to Hamm, (actually, after upgrading to 2.0.34) I noticed
that the advanced extensions to the parallel port (SPP and such) can be
recognized.  Perhaps these extensions are the source of your problem ?
   
   Ah, that sounds like a very good idea!  I will experiment with the
   lp settings in the BIOS tonight and see whether that makes a difference.
   How did you find out about that difference?
  
  How did I find out about that difference?
  Some time ago, while I was still running bo, I experimented with my BIOS 
  settings and noticed that the printer behavior is different when the BIOS 
  enables the parallel port extensions. The only thing I remember is that 
  either 
  the printer didn't work at all, or that it was very slow or that it began 
  the 
  printing and then stoped. It didn't took me much time to reset the BIOS to 
  the 
  simple parallel port definition.
 
 Oops, sorry, I meant to ask: 
 How did you find out that 2.0.34 knows about the advanced extensions of the
 parallel port?  I didn't see anything in the changelog.

My log says:
...
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: Version 1.42 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: Probing port 03bc 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: Probing port 0378 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: SPP port present 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: ppa: Probing port 0278 
Sep 13 09:30:29 rakefet kernel: scsi : 0 hosts. 
...

And I don't recall the same stuff on my previous (2.0.29) kernel. Or am I 
wrong ?
Also, I believe that SPP, EPP and friends are the names of the parallel port 
advanced extensions. And if there is an SPP detection then I think it is 
reasonable to expect that other extensions might be detected and handled as 
well. However, it is all based on the above lines. I didn't read it anywhere 
and, coming to think about it, I might be completely wrong. Am I ?
  
 
 Well, I solved my problem in the meantime.  I rebooted with my old 2.0.34
 kernel and found that everything works alright.  Then I looked at the
 source diffs of patch 2.0.35 and saw that there are the following
 changes in the file drivers/char/lp.c:
 
 diff -u --recursive --new-file v2.0.34/linux/drivers/char/lp.c 
 linux/drivers/char/lp.c
 @@ -89,7 +89,14 @@
 while(wait != LP_WAIT(minor)) wait++;
 /* control port takes strobe high */
 outb_p(( LP_PSELECP | LP_PINITP | LP_PSTROBE ), ( LP_C( minor )));
 -   while(wait) wait--;
 +   /* Wait until NBUSY line goes high */
 +   count = 0;
 +   do {
 +   status = LP_S(minor);
 +   count++;
 +   if (need_resched)
 +   schedule();
 +   } while (LP_READY(minor, status)  (countLP_CHAR(minor)));
 /* take strobe low */
 outb_p(( LP_PSELECP | LP_PINITP ), ( LP_C( minor )));
 /* update waittime statistics */
 
 I undid the patch, recompiled the module lp.o and voila! it works again.
 This is not a satisfying solution, but I don't understand enough about
 kernel programming to find the bug(?) myself.
 Maybe this NBUSY line rarely goes high?
 
 Anybody have an idea what to do?

My understanding + knowledge is much less then yours :(.






Re: Getting Lyx up and running with Hamm

1998-09-17 Thread shaul
Lyx for Hamm needs libforms0.88

Package: lyx
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: contrib/text
Installed-Size: 4576
Maintainer: Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 0.12.0.final-0.1
Depends: libc6, libforms0.88, libg++272 (= 2.7.2.8), xlib6g (= 3.3-5), xpm4g 
(
Recommends: latex, dvips, tetex-base | ltxgraph
Conffiles:

 
 Hi!
 
 After upgrading to Hamm, Lyx doesn't work any more, complaining that it 
 can't load library 'libforms.so.0.81' . This is reported as bug #18477.
 
 Is there any work-around for this?
 




Re: into the breach^h^h^h^h^h ppp once more

1998-09-17 Thread shaul
Adding \q before the password like (\qpassword) in /etc/chatscripts/provider 
will stopped the password being displayed in the log even if the debug is set.
Or did I missed something ?

 Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
 
  The loginid and password are correct; they're the same ones it uses to 
  login.
  what can possibly be going wrong here?  and why is the password nakedly
  displayed like that in the log?
  
  rick
 
 I found (after several phone calls) that turning off the debug option
 in /etc/ppp/peers/provider , I think) stopped the password being
 displayed in the log. All I get now are the remote messages such a s the
 IP address.




Re: Getting on the internet LCP timeout sending confige request.

1998-09-17 Thread shaul
1) I think that I had once a problem like the one you describe because the 
configuration of the mtu/mru numbers didn't fit to the ones that were 
recieved/transmitted. But I might confusing different issues.
2) I think that sending the relevant lines of the log may help solving any 
kind of PPP problems.

 After getting my earlier problems fixed or so it seems with 
 routing, gateways, domains, and DNS when trying to connect
 to the internet I get disconnected and in my log I get
 LCP: timeout sending confige request
 This message may not be exact but it is real close.
 I went to ppp options and tried to disable lcp icp negoations but
 I just got more error messages about something being disabled
 and my script still failed. I also tried through the options file
 extending how many LCP confige request my machine could send.
 I even set it to 100 and still ended up timing out.
 So it seems my machine cannot finish getting connected to
 my isp because of confige timeout request.
 Any comments about how to fix this would be appreciated.





Re: Installation Help

1998-09-15 Thread shaul
 Where can I find help on installing Debian?
 I thought this was the list but no one has replied.
 
 When installing Debian I get this error part way though the instation:
 
 No ... msdos ... partitions that had not already been mounted were
 detected.
 
 What could cause this error?  I am wanting to install from my hardrive.
 
There should be an installation text on each debian binary CDROM. 
I beleive the same text can be found on debian home page.

As for the error you mention:
I didn't had such an error. My first guess is that you didn't partition your 
HD, yet you are trying to install debian on it.
I suggest that you read the instlation help text I mentioned above. You can 
also send more details to this list.

Hope this helps.




Re: printing takes hours in HAMM

1998-09-15 Thread shaul
 According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  After upgrading to Hamm, (actually, after upgrading to 2.0.34) I noticed
  that the advanced extensions to the parallel port (SPP and such) can be
  recognized.  Perhaps these extensions are the source of your problem ?
 
 Ah, that sounds like a very good idea!  I will experiment with the
 lp settings in the BIOS tonight and see whether that makes a difference.
 How did you find out about that difference?

How did I find out about that difference?
Some time ago, while I was still running bo, I experimented with my BIOS 
settings and noticed that the printer behavior is different when the BIOS 
enables the parallel port extensions. The only thing I remember is that either 
the printer didn't work at all, or that it was very slow or that it began the 
printing and then stoped. It didn't took me much time to reset the BIOS to the 
simple parallel port definition.
That is the only thing I can say about it because I didn't look at it any 
further.








Re: I can,t seem to get out to the internet.

1998-09-15 Thread shaul
Can you ping to an IP address (as opposed to a URL address) ?

 Yes, I an new to Linux 2.0 something. I have had it installed for a few 
 months now. I have read the help files and ppp-howto stuff and even 
 bought a book. 
 I have my connect script working.
 I connect to my isp using pppd call provider
 after it gets logged in I type pppd in a seperate 
 x window and get the trash.
 I can ping my providers address
 I can ping my assigned address
 I have my DNS numbers in the correct file as
 nameserver 123.45.56.89
 nameserver 234.43.23.32
 
 Those are just examples.
 
 I cannot get my arena browser and lynx browser to goto websights.
 also, I cannot ping any other websights.
 
 Any hints as to what I might be doing wrong. Anything at all will
 be greatly appreciated.





Re: printing takes hours in HAMM

1998-09-10 Thread shaul
After upgrading to Hamm, (actually, after upgrading to 2.0.34) I noticed that 
the advanced extensions to the parallel port (SPP and such) can be recognized.
Perhaps these extensions are the source of your problem ? 
 Hi!
 After my upgrade to HAMM every kind of printing takes forever.
 No matter whether I print via magicfilter or cat a file to /dev/lp1
 my printer prints a line, waits something like 5 seconds, then
 prints the next line.
 
 Anyone out there who has an idea what happened?
 Do I have to set some baud rates for the device or something?
 





Re: Debian manual -- printed.

1998-09-10 Thread shaul
There is a link from debian home page to a free book like the one you are 
looking for (and other documentation).

 Since, I decided to use debian instead of Slackware or Red Hat. I have
 noticed something. I can't find a book devoted to it. I can find the
 other and I even am considering switching to another dist, just be cause
 I like to have a printed text near by. You to read on the bus or when
 you turn on your machine and it makes that uhh no sound stop crash !
 So can someone recommend one to me that has stuff in it specific to
 Debian? Where can I get it? (I even have Linux Journal - and I can't
 find anything in there!) Ok, if it will help I'll trade all my old
 Windblows 95/3.1 tech manuals and like or how about my Netware CNE/CNA
 study guide ; )
 







Re: BASIC HELP

1998-09-10 Thread shaul
Once you get the $ prompt you can do whatever you need to do. 
So, what you want to do ?
You mentioned trying to send email.
I think that the basic text command to send email is mail. Therefor, if you 
want to email yourself, you can try:
$ mail -s $(date) - trying to email myself $USER  /dev/null
And then you can type mail to activate the basic text mail reader (in it, ? 
will show you some help)
Hopefully, smail is configured well enough to do it. You can test it by 
issuing (from the $ prompt) /usr/sbin/smailtest --localonly. that is:
$ /usr/sbin/smailtest --localonly
and answer y to the question it will ask.

It seems to me that are missing Win 98 graphical enviorment. Linux has 
something like it (The X window system). But, I suggest that before you 
install it, you will learn more from the Linux books you have. Also, learn a 
bit about dselect' so that you'll be able to install some games and other 
applications that I believe you are curious about. Some of these doesn't 
necceseraly needs the graphical X enviorment, but you'll need to know more 
about dselect to be able to decide if this is the case for a particular 
program you are interested in.

 I am a NEW.  I have successfully installed Debian 2.0 from CD on my 
 computer with Win 98.  I have a 1,900 Mb Linux Native and 190 Mb Linux 
 Swap.  I am the only user on it; there is no connected network.
 
 I log on and get the '$' prompt and except for a few things like vi and 
 emacs I can do nothing.  For example, I answered the queries for smail 
 yet from root or /usr/bin/ I get the error message saying bad command 
 when I enter 'smail'  I even can list smail, see it listed and get the 
 same error message when enter smail.  I list RXW permission I ls -l
 
 I have 4 Linux books and none of them say what I should do once I get 
 the $ prompt!  Mounting a filesystem didn't seem to help but I may not 
 have done that right.  There is something VERY basic I am missing, the 
 books don't mention it.
 
 Please tell me what to do, or where to go to find basic tutorial help.
 






Re: running root X programs

1998-09-06 Thread shaul
 
 I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
 for it, but without success. 
 
 How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 
 
# Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 16:19:01 -0500
# From: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Organization: Business Data Services, Inc.
# MIME-Version: 1.0
# To: Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
# Subject: export XAUTHORITY=$(echo /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/*)
# Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
# -
# Will Lowe wrote:
#
#  On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# 
#   Unless explicitly told to do so using xhost, X does not allow anybody
#   other than the person who started it to open windows on its desktop,
#   not even root.  I could never figure out the proper syntax for xhost,
#   however, so I usually end up just using 'xhost +' which disables all
#   access control and then 'xhost -' when I'm done.
# 
#  That's pretty insecure.  I've seen instances where people on our campus
#  (admittedly,  a large one with relatively insecure systems anyway) have
#  had other people connect to their X displays because they'd done the
#  xhost + bit.  Generally more a nuisance than a real security concern,
#  but still... xhost + locahost is only marginally more secure ... with
#  that one,  just anyone on the x machine can connect ... so on a system
#  which distributes campus email,  that's a few thousand people here...
# 
#  Go for sudo.
#
# Actually, it's potentially much more than a nuisance. An X client can capture 
# all your keystrokes. You do the math.
#
# To just allow root to run an X app when you logged in as someone other than 
# root do:
#
# chilin$ su
# Password:
# chilin# export XAUTHORITY=$(echo /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/*)
#
# This way you can log access the server using the xauth data which only you and
# root have access to. Neato.
# Try it!
#
# - --
# Jens B. Jorgensen
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Slang vs. ncurses.

1998-09-06 Thread shaul
At first glance both Slang and ncurses seems to me comparable:
They both intend to help the programmer accomodate the terminal.
1) Is it correct ?
2) can someone give a short comparison of these 2 libraries ?

Thank you.




Re: ppp connection with Demon

1998-09-05 Thread shaul
Perhaps I can help you a bit:

1) PPP HOWTO and /usr/doc/ppp/* help a lot.

2) You might did it already, but one thing to do when trying to test the 
connection is to log in as root. This way you can eliminate problems that can 
rise because of unsatisfactory permitions untill after you know you can 
establish the connection.
  
 
 I have never used linux before, so I'm groping around a bit.
 
 I am trying to connect to Demon Internet using a chatscript. The server =
 is able to use either PAP or text-based login, but I got furthest with =
 text-based. I set ppp up with pppconfig and I have checked the =
 /etc/ppp/peers/Demon it created and the chatscript it refers to.
 I have a static IP address but when pon gets to the IP entry in =
 peers/Demon it says my IP address command not recognised or =
 something like that.
 I have tried making the connection with minicom, which happens really =
 slowly (I don't know how fast it should go). I got the connection speed =
 back (56K) and the server's address then:
 login:
 password:
 protocol: (I entered ppp)
 host: (my username) IP: (my IP, which is static)
 ppp begun at (something) mail maintenance completed. routing problems =
 with (something or other) fixed. finger (an address) for info. L
 and it stops there. If ppp was being set up, I would have seen some =
 garbage wouldn't I?
 Since it tells me my address anyway, I removed the IP address from =
 peers/Demon and tried pon again. This time it got through the login =
 sequence, including the protocol bit, then (plog) said serial connection =
 established. ifconfig only showed loopback. After a while plog said that =
 LCP timeout sending config requests. At no point could I use anything =
 that needed a ppp connection.

3) It seems to me that you can't establish a ppp connection because 
/etc/ppp/options or /etc/ppp/peers/Demon does not contain the correct 
switches. Perhaps you can try to read pppd man page and /etc/options to learn 
what flags are needed for your connection.

 
 I'm confused and I'd be very grateful for any help.
 

4) Try to enable debugging info and learn from that what is wrong. Maybe 
debugging info + trying different pppd switches can help you solve your 
problem.

5) Sending debugging info to the list can help others to isolate the problem.





Re: X and PPP Problems w/ Debian 1.3

1998-09-02 Thread shaul
1) I can't help you with the X problem.
2) About the ppp problem:
To begin with, read the help available in /usr/doc/ppp and try the pon command 
as root. Report the result to the list (unless you can solve the problem 
yourself from there).

Hope this help.

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: 30 Aug 98 20:15:20 EDT
 From: Scorpion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu
 Subject: Debian
 
 Hello,
 
 I just switched from Slackware to Debian.  Before that I switched
 from Redhat to Slackware.  Redhat is still my favorite, but my RH CD
 is scratched and won't install.  So I am trying new things. I am
 using Debian 1.3. 
 
 X won't work. I try to use the Config program, but when it says it is
 switching to Graphics mode, it exists with can't connect to server
 errors.
 
 PPP won't work.  I am using the same PPP scripts that worked with
 both Re dHat and Slackware.  With Debian, they start and wait a
 couple seconds, then t hey quit.  They never do any dialing.  I have
 the correct location of chat an d pppd (/usr/sbin/). 
 
 Later 
 Scorpion 
 http://schoolblows.ml.org 
 ICQ: 4762079 AIM: MeT SCorP
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Where is ./configure that is referred by man mdir ?

1998-09-02 Thread shaul
$ man mdir

mdir(1)   mdir(1)

Name
   mdir - display an MSDOS directory

Note
   This   manpage   has  been  automatically  generated  from
   mtools's texinfo documentation.  However, this process  is
. . .
   *  To generate a printable copy from the texinfo  doc,
  run the following commands:

 ./configure; make dvi; dvips mtools.dvi
 
  ?

Where is the ./configure it is referring to ?





Re: Cheapbytes mess-up debian [FW: Debian 2.0 CD's]

1998-08-31 Thread shaul
 I noticed that same problem.  The CD has a readme on it (somewhere,
 don't have it with me right now) that says something to the effect of
 it appears that any CD with all the pacakges on it can be called
 'official', as there is not standard directory layout or something to
 that effect.
 
 I guess I just took their word for it, but it certainly doesn't cast the
 Debian project in a good light that the cd_autoup.sh script won't work
 without manually (and without instruction) making lots of silly symlinks
 in a temporary directory and running it from there.
 

Perhaps it is silly, but I can't understand why the official CD isn't simply a 
mirror of the relevant files and directories of Debian's official ftp site.
I think that this way the problems like the one of cd_autoup.sh would be much 
less distrurbing.
Making the official CD a mirror of Debian's official ftp site would also help 
(a little) in the release of new versions. And it would also help (a little) 
new users to get used to the directory structure of the ftp sites.










xisp_2.5p2-2.deb doesn't run pppd. pon does.

1998-08-30 Thread shaul
I can't get xisp_2.5p2-2.deb to work. And this is contrary to the fact that 
pon/poff work almost without intervention (I had only to add noauth to get it 
to work).
I believe that he problem with xisp is something to do with getting pppd to 
work. I tried to change various flags in /etc/ppp/option.xisp, but it didn't 
help.
Here are some typical log:

A typical log for pon is:
=
Aug 30 09:33:39 rakefet pppd[11043]: pppd 2.3.5 started by shaul, uid 1000
Aug 30 09:33:41 rakefet chat[11044]: abort on (BUSY)
Aug 30 09:33:41 rakefet chat[11044]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
. . .
Aug 30 09:33:58 rakefet pppd[11043]: Serial connection established.
Aug 30 09:33:59 rakefet pppd[11043]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 30 09:33:59 rakefet pppd[11043]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Aug 30 09:34:02 rakefet pppd[11043]: local  IP address 192.117.188.85
Aug 30 09:34:02 rakefet pppd[11043]: remote IP address 192.117.188.7

A typical log for xisp:
===
Aug 30 09:53:41 rakefet pppd[11100]: pppd 2.3.5 started by shaul, uid 1000
Aug 30 09:54:05 rakefet pppd[11100]: Serial connection established.
Aug 30 09:54:06 rakefet pppd[11100]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 30 09:54:06 rakefet pppd[11100]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Aug 30 09:54:38 rakefet pppd[11100]: Terminating on signal 2.


I tried to uncomment the debug option in /etc/ppp/options.xisp, but it didn't 
revealed much. And I couldn't figure out how to get more detailed debug info.








Re: /etc/ppp/options

1998-08-30 Thread shaul
I would say that pppd looks at /etc/ppp/options and at /etc/ppp/peers/ISP_name.
Since you can connect to the ISP as root, I guess that your problem is pppd 
permitions. does ls show the existance of /etc/ppp/options when you are 
looking as root ? Does pppd is suid ?

 Related to my previous post about learning to use Xisp, I'm trying to
 get PPP to work from a user account, my own, and so far haven't had
 any success. Whether I use Xisp or just pon ISP_Name I get the
 following in /var/log/ppp.log:
 
 pppd[2513]: Can't open options file /etc/ppp/options: No such file or 
 directory
 
 I was under the assumption that pppd was supposed to use the file
 /etc/ppp/peers/ISP_Name for the options file? I can't figure out why
 it's not doing that. The same operations work fine for root, e.g.,
 
 pon ISP_Name
 
 fires up PPPD without a hitch. I don't see a problem with
 permissions. pppd is setuid root and /etc/chatscript, and all the
 files therein, are owned by root.dip. I'm also a member of the dip
 group in /etc/group. I even tried newgrp dip, which succeeded, but I
 still get the message about /etc/ppp/options not being there? Why is
 it trying to read that file instead of /etc/ppp/peers/ISP_Name?
 
 HELP!
 Gary
 
 
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Re: HELP: Problems with G++ : Try ./hello and not hello

1998-08-29 Thread shaul
Try ./hello instead of hello (at the bash promt)

 I am having difficulties getting g++ to compile properly.
 
 I am just testing it with a simple hello program.

 When I type ...
 
 g++ -g -Wall -ohello hello.cc
 
 The file - hello - is created.  When I type, hello to execute the program.  
 The bash shell tells me there is no such command.
  
 What am I doing wrong?  I need to get this working for my class on Monday.
  
 Thanks,
 Denis



Re: Minicom question

1998-08-22 Thread shaul
 I'm new to debian and maybe I' overlooking something simple, but have
 not been able to send a text file with Minicom. Can it be configured to
 do so? Thanks for any assistance.
 Kim Breedlove
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I haven't did it myself, but I am 100% sure that minicom can do it. I consider 
this elementary. Are you sure the modem - minicom connection is OK ? Have 
you checked the man ? What response are you getting when you try to send the 
file ? What communication program the other side has ?
In short, more details (perhaps cut and paste from the minicom terminal) would 
help to answer.




Re: Installion: Uncorrectable Error

1998-08-20 Thread shaul
Doesn't it simplly says that the HD has bad sectors ?
 
 I am trying to install debian onto a partition on my second hard drive,
 I get finished installing, and making my boot floppy, by i get a lot of
 error messages,when I reboot to continue installion. There are so many
 messages after a while the computer just sits there, and doesnt do
 anything.  I tried reinstalling probably 20+ times, and it is still
 doing this, I got further than that once, but there was another problem
 later on, in hardware, so was going to reinstall, and it is screwed up
 again, the error message that I get is:
 
 hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error}
 hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 {UnCorrectable Error}, CHS=40/3/25
 sector=34548
 end_request: I/O Error, dev 03:42, sector 34548
 
 Any info on this message would really help, I get so many of them, they
 just fill up the whole screen. Even the time I got past them, I still
 had them, just not as many. If it matters, I have a Pentium 100mhz 24
 RAM Linux Partition=225 megs and I am installing from a CD, which I
 purchased at linuxcentral.com
 
   Kenneth L. Smart
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: New Debian user needs help: Problems about partitioning, booting from harddisk, etc.

1998-08-18 Thread shaul
 I've just downloaded and installed Debian, the following problems were 
 encountered:
 
 1. My PC have 2 harddisks and 1 CD-ROM:
Primary IDE Master:4.3G (hda), LBA MODE
Primary IDE Slave: NONE
Secondary IDE Master:  SONY CD-ROM(CDU611)
Secondary IDE Slave:   2.1G (hdd), LBA MODE
 
 I installed Windows95 osr2 on hda first and then installed Debian on hdd from 
 drive c. The installation of Debian seemed to be successful(except before 
 LILO was installed, it's said that Debian would try to boot from my secondary 
 harddisk but perhaps my CMOS doesn't support it), but after reboot Debian 
 failed to boot from hdd. And I noticed that the size of my secondary 
 harddisk(2.1G) in CMOS Setup Menu had been set to 528MB. How to explain this?

1) One possible explenation is that your CMOS doesn't support booting from the 
secondary IDE interface (secondary harddisk)

and how can Debian boot from my secondary harddisk? 

In view of 1), it might be that Debian can not boot from your secondary 
harddisk. You might want to put the 2.1G HD on your primary IDE as the slave. 
Another thing that might help is the /usr/doc/lilo documantation (like 
Manual.txt.gz)

Should I set the harddisk mode from LBA to NORMAL before installing Debian?

2) IMHO, no. I think that your 4.3G HD is not shown in your CMOS for its 
correct size as well, because that is how your CMOS is desgined. The fact that 
both HD are recognized as LBA implies that everything is OK.

 
 2. What's the difference between primary partition and logical partition in 
 Linux?  Which should I select when I partition my harddisk for Debian?

Since there is a limit of 4 to the number of primary partitions (On a regular 
PC), an extended partition was invented to be able to hold as many logical 
partiotions as desired. So, basicaly, one can have its disk has as many 
partitions as he wants. I don't know what other implications this situation 
have from the sys designer and sys admin point of view.
For how to partition your HD I suggest that you will take a look at the Debian 
FAQ.




Is it possible to have a prompt with a dynamic clock ?

1998-08-17 Thread shaul
I understand that setting PS1=[\t]$  (in bash) will show me the time that 
the prompt appeared.
Is it possible to have it advance the time as a regular clock would ? 


setlogmask

1998-08-10 Thread shaul
I am trying to run the example programs that accompany the book Beginning 
Linux Programming.
I don't undestand what is wrong with this one (it produces 
Aug 10 02:42:38 rakefet logmask[13691]: debug message, should not appear
, although it is not execpected to):

bash-2.00$ cat logmask.c
#include syslog.h
#include stdio.h
#include unistd.h

int main()
{
  int logmask;

  openlog(logmask, LOG_PID|LOG_CONS, LOG_USER);
  syslog(LOG_INFO,informative message, pid = %d, getpid());
  syslog(LOG_DEBUG,debug message, should appear);
  logmask = setlogmask(LOG_MASK(LOG_DEBUG));
  syslog(LOG_DEBUG,debug message, should not appear);
  return(0);
}
bash-2.00$ cc -o logmask logmask.c
bash-2.00$ ./logmask
rakefet# tail -n2 /var/log/debug
Aug 10 02:42:38 rakefet logmask[13691]: debug message, should appear
Aug 10 02:42:38 rakefet logmask[13691]: debug message, should not appear

How it (should ?) works:
The program initializes the logging dacility with its name , logmask and 
requests that log messages contain the process identifier. The informative 
message is logged to /var/log/messages and the debug message to 
/var/log/debug. The second debug message doesn't appear because we call 
setlogmask to ignore all messages with a priority below LOG_NOTICE.


A question about an include file.

1998-08-06 Thread shaul
Could someone explain what the following line, which is taken from 
/usr/include/errno.h, means :

extern void perror __P ((__const char* __s));

As I understand it, it means that perror is defined in an external file and 
returns a void type. But what are the __P, and __const ? And why there are 2 
sets of brackets, and not only 1 ?
Where does these constructs being documented ?

Thank you.




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Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.

1998-07-31 Thread shaul
 Hello,
 
   I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help
 me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it,
 but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks.
 

I am not sure but I think giving them rbash will keep them in their own 
directory. It might also have some undesirable effects in your case.

Please tell me (and the list) about your findings.
Thank you.


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dosemu and win95 startup (logo) screen.

1998-07-29 Thread shaul
I am trying to set up dosemu. I don't understand much about what I am doing. I 
am simply reading the docs and do what I see fit.

What I wanted to report is that when I am starting dos (that is dosemu) from 
the console, I am getting win95 startup screen (its logo) and after that I see 
the hdimage prompt (C:\).

It is probably of very little significant bacause the logo is shown on win95 
bootstarp process so it is probably execute dos (that is non ring0) code, and 
simply take full advantage of an svga capabilities (much like today good 
looking and nicely sounding games that run in dos mode).




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Can less read its input from the stderr ? How ?

1998-07-27 Thread shaul
Supose I have a program that output long text to stderr. Can I use the less 
command to page in it ? How ?
Can I switch the stdout with the stderr ?


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sys c: doesn't work for me. Why ? What to do ?

1998-07-22 Thread shaul
As is stated in the quickstart instructions, I tried to run 'dos -A', dir c:
and sys c:. Everything seems to be O.K until the sys c:, when I got:
ERROR: write protect!
ERROR: write protect!
What is wrong and how to fix it ?


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exmh configuration.

1998-07-17 Thread shaul
I changed my smail configuration so that it will change the From: field on an 
outgoing mail to be my account on my ISP machine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
This setting is working when I use the mail command. For example, 
$ echo `date` | mail -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
results in 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:27:02 +0300 (IDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test

Fri Jul 17 02:27:02 IDT 1998

However, when I am using exmh I get

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test.
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:28:30 +0300

Fri Jul 17 02:28:01 IDT 1998

(Note the From: field)

Question: How to change exmh configuration so that it will let smail do what I 
want ? That is, how to prevent exmh from disturbing smail to set the From: 
header the way I want it to be ?






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Cd vendors in Europe ?

1998-07-16 Thread shaul
 ... and at least one of the vendors in Europe is strictly a reseller of CDs.
Perhaps you have his email or www address ?

Does anyone knows other CD vendors in Europe ?




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Re: Smail help please

1998-07-15 Thread shaul
 
   Hi.  I really need some help here.  I have fetchmail working fine. It pops
 my mail off my ISP's server just fine.  I can't figure out how to make smail
 send mail through my account on my ISP to the internet when I am logged in.
 If I use netscapes mail it works fine.  I have looked through man smail, man
 smailconfig and /etc/smail/* files.  Does smail need a password somewhere to
 'pop' mail on to my ISP's mail server for delivery or does it even have to
 deal with my ISP's mail server when sending?  Please help.
 
Assuming that smail is configured correctly, you only need to
runq
whenever you are connected to your ISP and want the accumulated mail to get 
sent.
you can take a look at the log file (/var/log/smail/logfile) while you are 
doing that to see what happens.
BTW, with my system and ISP, getting the accumulated mail pass to my ISP may 
take some time.
To verify that all the mail has been sent, you can use 
mailq
on my system, when all its mail has been deleivered, it looks like
bash-2.00$ mailq
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Re: setting the sender field (was Re: Smail Configuration)

1998-07-15 Thread shaul
 I did a similar thing to get my smail working.  
 I use exmh/mh for email.  My problem is that the sender field is set to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED](FQDN).  The user is jmb (or whoever I'm logged 
 in as) and the hostname is achimota.  The network I'm on (from my dial-up 
 ISP) 
 is ziplink.net.  My FQDN ends up as achimota.ziplink.net, which does not 
 resolve when a DNS lookup is done on it.  As a result of this mail to some 
 domains gets rejected.   If the FQDN does not resolve it is rejected because 
 maybe they think it is spam or something.  Am I making any sense?  I hope I 
 have explained the problem clearly.  For example this is being sent from user 
 jmb on host nsx.rd.usr.com so the sender field in this message is going to 
 read as [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is ok because nsx.rd.usr.com is a real host.
 From what I've been reading, the sender field is set by smail.  Is there a 
 part in the smail config files where I can set the sender field to a real 
 value - one with a hostname that will resolve.
 Thanks for any help
 
I Am not sure I understand your problem correctly, but if I do then the 
following, especialy /etc/smail/transport and /etc/smail/maps/frommap, might 
help:



bin0mkODm9P3T.bin
Description: smail.tgz


Re: power-save mode in screen mode ?

1998-07-15 Thread shaul
 On Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 08:51:13AM +0200, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
  is ther any way to force monitor come to power saving mode when i'm in
  full-screen mode ?
 
 setterm -powersave on?

How can I tell and change the parameters that controls the saving power mode ? 
I tried to find the answer to my question by looking at the man page but 
didn't get anything. Where is it documanted ?

BTW: Can anyone give a short and simple explenation about those 3 parameters 
standby, suspend, offtime ? What are exactly the differences between them ?




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Re: MUA configuration for correct From address.

1998-07-13 Thread Shaul
1) I tried to change my configuration files according to your suggestions 
(qouted at the end of this letter), but although it gave me no erors, it kept 
using the wrong from header. Can you send me all your configuration files 
(the whole /etc/smail directory), both its contents and the files' permissions 
? I hope it is simply a matter of adding or omiting some characters.
2) I thought that as an intermediate step I can try the following in my 
transport file (/etc/smail/transport):
 -
 smtp:  driver=tcpsmtp, 
max_addrs=100,  # limit on number of addresses
-max_chars,  
inet,   # use route-addr addresses for routing
remove_header=From,   # Rewrite From
insert_header=From: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
use_bind,   # resolve MX and multiple A records
defer_no_connect,   # try again if the nameserver is down
-local_mx_okay, # fail an MX to the local host
defnames# use standard domain searching
 -
That is, as an intermediate step I wanted smail to change the From header for 
all outgoing mail in a simple way. But this time I got

$ echo `date` | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s test
$ send-mail: /etc/smail/transports: defnames: unknown attribute
send-mail: mail moved to /var/spool/smail/error/0yvp7A-000jLUC

3) Is there a beginners' explenation about smail configuration ? I tried the 
man and the documantation on my system but I didn't get much from it.
Does anybody remember the address of Daniel Martin's page ? Is that page still 
there ?
4) What is the defualt MTA in Hamm ?

Thank you.

 On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Shaul wrote:
 
I am using smail and fetchmail. It is working, altough I have to add a 
Reply-To field becuase the recpiants can't find my machine from the 
Internet. 
Note that my machine is called rakefet. I am the user shaul. My ISP 
login name 
is beitamos and my ISP's mail server is mail.inter.net.il
Hope it will help.  
   
   Since you have got your MUA to add the reply-to, why not configure
   it to send your correct From address instead? I cannot imagine why anyone
   would go around with a broken from address.
  
  1) I am adding a Reply-To by hand to every letter I am writing. I couldn't 
  figured out how to do it automaticaly.
  2) Can someone direct me on how to change the From field from my MUA ? That 
  too I couldn't figured out myself. Furthermore: Isn't such a thing causes 
  dificullties to smail ?
  I am using exmh 1.6 on a bo system.
  3) I wouldn't go with a broken From address if I knew how it could be 
  solved. 
  As was pointed out many times in the past on this list, it is a bit of a 
  problem - at least on bo systems.
 
 If using smail, have a look at Daniel Martin's page (sorry, dont have the
 URL... Daniel???)
 
 Here is the relevant info:
 
 in your /etc/smail/transports file, change the smtp section to this:
 (you might want to save the old section in case of problems... just
 comment it out with #'s)
 -
 smtp: driver=tcpsmtp, 
   max_addrs=100,  # limit on number of addresses
   -max_chars,  
   inet,   # use route-addr addresses for routing
   remove_header=From,   # Rewrite From, ID and Sender headers
   insert_header=From: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/frommap}{$value}
  {[YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS] ($from:$fullname)}},
 remove_header=Message-ID,
 insert_header=Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 remove_header=Sender,
 insert_header=Sender: ${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/frommap}{$value}
  {[YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS] ($from:$fullname)}};
   use_bind,   # resolve MX and multiple A records
   defer_no_connect,   # try again if the nameserver is down
   -local_mx_okay, # fail an MX to the local host
   defnames# use standard domain searching
 -
 (the lines with [YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS] are extensions of the previous
 insert_header definitions, and of course, put in your email address :) )
 
 
 make a file /etc/smail/maps/frommap and put in the following template,
 and edit it to suit your situation (change all [...] sections):
 -
 root  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
 [user][email address] ([name])
 -
 
 thats it :) it worked for me :)
 
Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
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Re: unsubscribe helper line

1998-07-11 Thread Shaul
 On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Jeff Schreiber wrote:
 
  I'm with you. I think a larger subset of folks will screw this up. I'm sure
  it's an attempt to save a bit of bandwidth, but . . .
  
  Personally I think it's cool.  
 
 i agree. just cut and paste the line into an xterm window or console.
 what could be simpler?
 
 i think that it would be better like this, though:
 
   echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 it's simpler and easier to read (pipes don't confuse newbies anywhere near
 as much as  redirection of stdin). also serves as an example to teach
 newbies something about pipes and the Unix Way Of Doing Things. :-) 
 
As was mentioned here before, I think that there is still a problem with the 
Reply-To field. That is, some systems (like mine) has to had a Reply-To field 
because otherwise their name can not be recognized, and their unsubscribe 
request can't be processed.




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Re: MUA configuration for correct From address.

1998-07-11 Thread Shaul
  I am using smail and fetchmail. It is working, altough I have to add a 
  Reply-To field becuase the recpiants can't find my machine from the 
  Internet. 
  Note that my machine is called rakefet. I am the user shaul. My ISP login 
  name 
  is beitamos and my ISP's mail server is mail.inter.net.il
  Hope it will help.  
 
 Since you have got your MUA to add the reply-to, why not configure
 it to send your correct From address instead? I cannot imagine why anyone
 would go around with a broken from address.

1) I am adding a Reply-To by hand to every letter I am writing. I couldn't 
figured out how to do it automaticaly.
2) Can someone direct me on how to change the From field from my MUA ? That 
too I couldn't figured out myself. Furthermore: Isn't such a thing causes 
dificullties to smail ?
I am using exmh 1.6 on a bo system.
3) I wouldn't go with a broken From address if I knew how it could be solved. 
As was pointed out many times in the past on this list, it is a bit of a 
problem - at least on bo systems.





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The link to debian-i18n from the Debian home page ?

1998-07-11 Thread Shaul
There used to be a link to an introductory page of debian-i18n on Debian home 
page. Where is it ?





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Re: File managers ??............

1998-07-10 Thread Shaul
 Hi
 
Im wonder the power of my linux system. But Im still browsing my 
 computer only with the ls command. Can you people recomend me a good 
 file manager ??? 

No one mentioned offix-files. Why ? (I don't use it myself. I am just 
cuorious.)

offix-files - Drag  Drop based filemanager  
   
This is as file manager based on xfm. It provides virtually all of the
features that you would expect in a file manager -- move around your  
directory tree in multiple windows, move, copy or delete files, and launch
programs with simple mouse operations.





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Re: Smail Configuration

1998-07-10 Thread Shaul
 Hi ,
  I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please explain 
 to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails from my 
 machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very comfy with that. 
 (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail out of it)
 

I am using smail and fetchmail. It is working, altough I have to add a 
Reply-To field becuase the recpiants can't find my machine from the Internet. 
Note that my machine is called rakefet. I am the user shaul. My ISP login name 
is beitamos and my ISP's mail server is mail.inter.net.il
Hope it will help.  

1) A script of /usr/sbin/smailconfig for my system is:

Script started on Fri Jun  5 03:04:54 1998
rakefet# /usr/sbin/smailconfig
Your mail system (Smail) is already configured; I'll leave the
existing configuration untouched.  Use --force to ignore it.
rakefet# /usr/sbin/smailconfig --force
Ignoring existing Smail configuration.

I can do certain kinds of automatic configuration of your mail system, by
asking you a number of questions.  Later you may to confirm and/or correct
your answers.  In any case, comprehensive information on configuring Smail is
in smail(5) and in /usr/doc/smail/examples and /usr/doc/smail/guide.

You must choose one of the options below:
 (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this
machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP.
 (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site):
You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your
smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery.
 (3) Satellite system:
No mail is to be delivered or routed here.  Any mail generated
on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP.
 (4) Local delivery only:
You are not on a network.  Mail for local users is delivered.
 (5) No configuration:
No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and
should not be used.  You must then do the configuration yourself later or
run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root.
Select a number from 1 to 5, from the list above.
Enter value (default=`1', `x' to restart): 1

What is the `visible' mail name of your system ?
This will appear on From: lines of outgoing messages.
Enter value (default=`rakefet', `x' to restart): rakefet

Does this system have any other names which may appear on incoming
mail messages, apart from the visible name above (rakefet)
and the system's hostname (rakefet) ?
If so enter them here, separated with spaces or commas.  If there are
none, say `none'.
Enter value (default=`none', `x' to restart): none

Do you have a smarthost available (and accessible via SMTP) ?

A smarthost is a system to which you forward mail you don't want to
deliver yourself; it presumably has better connectivity or routing
information than you do.  Commercial providers usually provide a
smarthost for their customers, and large organisations will often have
a site mail switch which can be used.  Use of a smarthost is strongly
recommended (you'll be able to specify exactly when to use it soon).

If a smarthost is available please enter its name (otherwise, `none').
Enter value (`x' to restart): mail.inter.net.il

Do you wish to use the smarthost for:
 (1) All outbound mail.  This is good if your system is poorly
connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk
to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out
just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients.
 (2) Mail that you have failed to find a way to route.  This
means that mail for any unknown hosts or domains will be
sent to the smarthost in the hope that it will know better;
if it doesn't the smarthost should bounce it back to you.
This is recommended for most situations, and usually results
in faster end-to-end delivery than always using the smarthost.
 (3) Only mail to the `awkward' UUCP and BITNET domains.
These domains don't appear in the Internet routing tables,
and how to reach them varies depending on your location.
Use this if your smarthost's admin has asked you to avoid using
the smarthost unnecessarily, or if it is unreliable or very slow.
Select a number from 1 to 3, from the list above.
Enter value (default=`2', `x' to restart): 1

Mail for the `postmaster' and `root' accounts is usually redirected
to one or more user accounts, of the actual system administrators.
By default, I'll set things up so that mail for `postmaster' and for
various system accounts is redirected to `root', and mail for `root'
is redirected to a real user.  This can be changed by editing /etc/aliases.

Note that postmaster-mail should usually be read on the system it is
directed to, rather than being forwarded elsewhere, so (at least one of)
the users you choose should not redirect their mail off this machine.

Which user account(s) should system administrator mail go to ?
Enter one or more usernames separated by spaces or commas .  Enter
`none' if you

Re: A question for a programmer

1998-07-10 Thread Shaul
 I am going through a book on Linux programming. One of the examples does 
 not work. I was wondering if someone could take a look at the script and 
 see why it doesn't work. The program is exactly like the example from the 
 book, in fact I downloaded it from www.wrox.com the 
 publisher of the book Beginning Linux Programming. The part that doesn't 
 work is the list_tracks section. 
 

I don't know the answer to your question. However, they have a page that 
reports errors and corrections for this book. If it isn't there, you might 
want to report it as an error.




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Diary + telephone list ?

1998-07-09 Thread Shaul
Is there a package that contains a diary and a telephone list ?




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Re: Driver bug? 56k USR doesn't transmit properly?

1998-07-06 Thread Shaul
Isn't a Baud_base of 115200 too small for a 56k speed ? Shouldn't it be 
23something (231400 ?) for that speed ? don't they say that the modem-computer 
rate should be at least 4 times then line speed ?

 The changes made no difference.  Thanks for the suggestions, though.  
 
 Last thing I can think of is whether the serial driver is setting up the
 cua1/ttyS1 file correctly.  Following is output from setserial (I'd already
 reset the speed to vhi from normal):
 
 /dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
   Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
   closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
   Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout
 
 Can anyone tell whether there's anything odd about this w.r.t. a 56k modem
 connected as follows:  CONNECT 41333/ARQ/x2/LAPM/V42BIS  ???




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Re: modem works now - but modem-computer comunication really slow

1998-07-06 Thread Shaul
If i understand correctly, one of your problems is that it is very slow.
1) Is it a plug-and-play modem ?
2) what does setserial (setserial /dev/ttyS3 -a) reports ?
3) Perhaps you should consider giving a more specific modem initialization 
string, rather then ATZ ?
4) I think you should read the PPP HOWTO. It is a bit different from the way 
Debian handels the connection but, never the less, I find it an invaluable 
source to start things going (and also get a little insight). I also saw on 
this list that there are instructions on the automatic FAQ (FAQ'O'MATIC ?), 
although I did not used it.

 I am trying to connect a zoltrix 33600 modem to a hamm machine.
 The modem is an internal modem running on ttyS3
 I managed to get the modem dialing, only the comunication is really
 slow. It takes 20-30 seconds to get the OK answear from the init
 string (ATZ). Then the modem dials (minicom also takes the dial
 command real slow). It then connects to the provider (used minicom and
 also checkes with plog using pon). The inoput comes at about 30
 seconds for half a line to load. I get the login and password promts
 (only using minicom - pon hangs up before they apear) and after
 connecting the modem hangs up in the middle of the coming from the
 provider to start ppp connection.





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Re: adding, changing, using true type fonts under X11

1998-07-05 Thread Shaul
1) Adding fonts to X11 (in existing directories):
If I wanted to add the file courR14h.pcf.gz to the (existing) directory 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, I would:

chmod 444 *.pcf.gz
mv courR14h.pcf.gz /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
mkfontdir /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
xset fp rehash

 
 anyone knows how to add new fonts to X11 (in existing directories)
 How to change fonts and default fonts
 and how to use true type fonts / xfstt?







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Stopping and restarting mgetty.

1998-07-04 Thread Shaul
I have the following line in /etc/inittab:

S1:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1

How can I stop it whenever I need to, do something (like changing some 
parameter) and restart it again ?


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Re: using mail on a debian system (betwin users)

1998-07-04 Thread Shaul
$ mail -s test rami  /dev/null  
Null message body; hope that's ok

would sent the user rami a mail with the subject test and with null message 
body.




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Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?

1998-07-04 Thread Shaul
 I downloaded and installed Star Office 4.0.  I haven't had much opportunity 
 to 
 study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files.  
 I also checked on word processor files.  WinWord 6.0 and 95 are supported, 
 though the files should not have been saved with the Fast Save option. I 
 have received a number of files which I suspect are WinWord 97 for which I 
 got 
 the message no filter available. Also, WordPerfect files are not recognized.
 
 In summary, Star Office 4.0 looks like a nice office package, but its 
 interoperability isn't super.


As was disscussed not long ago on this list, you can try to verify if it is 
indeed a WinWord 97 documents by using the strings command.
For a word 6 Document I got

$ strings /MS/winword/Document/openu/20417_15.doc | grep Word
Microsoft Word 6.0 Document
MSWordDoc
Word.Document.6
Microsoft Word 6.0
Microsoft Word 6.0
Microsoft Word 6.0
$  

 The Web site lists Star Office 5.0 features which include filters for Word 
 97, 
 AmiPro, WordPro, WordPerfect, PowerPoint97, Excel 97, etc., etc.   Looks like 
 a nice product but I couldn't tell if it is available yet and how much it 
 costs.

By the way, does someone knows if, and to waht level, does Star Office 
supports multiple languages ? I am particulary interested in Hebrew, which 
ofcourse needs its special fonts, but even more problematic then that is the 
fact that it is written from right to left. (I think that Arabic is also 
written from right to left.) What other languages, if any, are written this 
way ?




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Re: The Driver Install Disk...

1998-07-02 Thread Shaul
sector 19 ? Doesn't a normal MS-DOS floppy contains only 18 sectors ?
Are you using some special floppy and / or a special drive ? Perhaps you 
should try other floppies and and / or format one before you use it ?

 ok here's the message that I get every time I stick a drivers floppy 
 into my floppy drive during the install:
 
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 19
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 19
This isn't the driver's floppy. Please place the
drivers floppy in the /dev/fd0 floppy drive and try again.
 
 It doesn't matter if I try and make a new floppy.  I have done that 
 about five times now and I always get the same error message.  To top it 
 off I accidentally tried to boot my system with the drivers floppy and 
 what does it tell me... THAT IT'S THE DRIVERS FLOPPY!!!  What's the 
 deal, I am getting really frustrated.  If someone can help me I would be 
 very happy.  
 
 Thanks,
 Menwe.
 
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Re: changing/adding/using fonts and ttfonts

1998-07-02 Thread Shaul
Not directly answer your questions, but might be helpful.
1) There is a (quite old) Hebrew HOWTO
2) I am sending you, (on a private mail) a compressed tared 24k file.
In there you'll find, among other things, a makefile and a readme. I hope that 
they will assists you in some way.

BTW: If you'll find an answer to some of your questions not through the list, 
please send me those answers (and perhaps to the list too ?)



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Re: Intent to take over the xisp package

1998-07-02 Thread Shaul
I am using xisp. 
I think that Debian should have an updated AND bugfree version of it.










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Re: Where is Netscape?

1998-06-30 Thread Shaul
 On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Shaul wrote:
 
   If you want a v4 version, get the v4 version of the .deb installer.
  
  Is there a .deb v4 installer for Bo ? It seems to me that the ftp sites are 
  only keeping the one for Hamm ?
 
 Supposedly this also works for bo.

At least the package that I found can't work on bo since it depends on libc6 
(and maybee for other reasons).

$ dpkg -I packages/netscape/netscape4_4.0-12.deb | grep Depends
 Depends: motifnls, ldso (= 1.9.7-0), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libc6, libg++27 (= 
2.7.2.1-1), xlib6 (= 3.3-0), xpm4.7 (= 3.4j-0)

Or maybee there is a package for bo somewhere ?


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Re: Where is Netscape?

1998-06-29 Thread Shaul
 If you want a v4 version, get the v4 version of the .deb installer.

Is there a .deb v4 installer for Bo ? It seems to me that the ftp sites are 
only keeping the one for Hamm ?





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