Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
eric.bachard wrote: Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg a écrit : Hi all, I have started a wiki page for collecting content for the OpenOffice.org 3.0 feature list page that I talked about before: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_3.0_Feature_List That's a nice work. thanks a lot ! It's just the beginning. And the content probably has to be turned into a nice looking static HTML page at some point. I'll add descriptions and more screen shots over the next few days, but I'd like to invite everybody to contribute to the wiki page as well! Indeed, would be great to see more people involved. If ever I have a Yes, the more people help and contribute, the better the end result will be. good idea, or a specific case not listed, I'll add it. Just wondering how add the copy-paste, the drag and drop and the acccessibility features using screenshots. I also have the feeling that not every feature listed on the page can be nicely illustrated with a screen shot. What about create specific movies, available e.g. on youtube ? Would be a nice pub for the Aqua port :-) Yes, I already purchased a copy of iShowU and downloaded Jing. Thus, I'm definitely thinking about it. However, my first test taught me that doing screen casts can be quite hard without post processing. I don't want to spend a fortune on post-processing (i.e. video editing) software, but do you have any recommendations? Now, a bit off Topic, a specific Mac OS X tip : maybe you already know the shortcut, but if you want to take a screenshot of only one window on Mac OS X , you can do : 1) Apple key + Shift + 4 = makes a target ( circle + crux ) appear 2) Then move the mouse cursor over the window you want to take a screenshot, and press Space bar = the selected window appear in dark grey 3) Finally, type on Enter key = a new .png will appear on your desktop That's all :-) Yes, that has already become my favorite Mac feature! ;-) All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
Hi all, I have started a wiki page for collecting content for the OpenOffice.org 3.0 feature list page that I talked about before: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_3.0_Feature_List I'll add descriptions and more screen shots over the next few days, but I'd like to invite everybody to contribute to the wiki page as well! Thanks a lot and all the best, Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Luis, and others, Since OpenOffice.org 3.0 is a new major release, I think we need to prepare more marketing material than we did for the minor releases between 2.0 and 3.0. On of my ideas was to create an appealing and user-friendly feature list that summarizes all the key features of OpenOffice.org 3.0 including those introduced with OOo 2.4, OOo 2.3, OOo 2.2 and OOo 2.1. What I have in mind is something like the following two pages where a combination of screen shots (maybe even screen casts), plus links, plus a text description explain the different features: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/index.html BTW, we seem to have a huge opportunity in pitching OpenOffice.org 3.0 to Mac users as users/customers don't seem to be all too happy with the market leading alternative on the Mac (check out the Amazon reviews for example): http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000WR2F2M/ref=cm_cr_pr_recent?%5Fencoding=UTF8sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending http://www.officeformac.com/.ee88ac9/ http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6846019 http://www.idealog.us/2008/02/microsoft-offic.html http://www.macworld.com/article/54320/2006/12/microsoft.html http://www.macwindows.com/office2008.html http://www.schwieb.com/blog/2006/08/08/saying-goodbye-to-visual-basic/ http://www.microsoft.com/mac/developers/default.mspx http://www.mactech.com/vba-transition-guide/ http://notebook.bekkelund.net/2008/02/13/ooxml-%E2%80%94-the-apple-headache/ http://mintchocicecream.googlepages.com/ooxml http://technosailor.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-microsoft-created-mac-office-2008/ http://www.macintouch.com/reviews/office2008/ http://blogs.sun.com/malte/entry/back_from_csun Below is a list of features that I think we should highlight. Do you agree with that list? What should be added or removed? BTW, I listed the Sun extensions in particular because they were listed on various roadmap slides in the past (e.g. the ones shown at OOoCon), and just happened to be developed as extensions instead of built-in features. O.k., here is my list: Key Features Introduced With OpenOffice.org 3.0 === Built-in Features - * Mac OS X Support - Accessibility - Solver - Cross platform interoperability - Stability - Some VBA support * ODF 1.2 support - Formula language (OpenFormula) - Metadata information (W3C RDF/OWL based) * Office 2007 import filters * Solver * Chart enhancements - Error bars - Pie chart formatting options * Improved crop feature in Draw and Impress * Spreadsheet collaboration through workbook sharing * 1024 columns per Calc sheet instead of 256 * Display of multiple Writer pages while editing * Improved notes feature in Writer * New, fresh-looking icons (since developer snapshot m10) Features in Extensions -- * Mozilla Thunderbird Lightning 0.8 (email calendaring) * Soon: Wiki Publisher * Soon: PDF Import Extension * Soon: Presenter Console Key Features Introduced With OpenOffice.org 2.4 === Built-in Features - * Connect to WebDAV servers via HTTPS * PDF/A support * Support for Access 2007 (.accdb files) * Columns and rows in spreadsheet can be moved with drag and drop * Print dialog for Calc easier to use * Chart enhancements - Display of equations for regression curves - Many new data label formatting options * Transformation of CSV data inside cells into columns within Calc * Extension framework enhancements - Inclusion of online help information - Inclusion of publisher and release note information - Check-for-update mechanism * Language selector in Writer toolbar Features in Extensions -- * Sun Presentation Minimizer Key Features Introduced With OpenOffice.org 2.3 === Built-in Features - * New Chart component - Exploded 3D pie charts - New, fresh-looking color scheme - Flexible source ranges * MediaWiki export filter for Writer * Playing a sound during a full slide show in Impress * Custom animation paths in Impress * Maximum page size enlarged for Draw (300cm x 300cm) Features in Extensions -- * Sun Report Builder Key Features Introduced With OpenOffice.org 2.2 === * Improved Pivot Table support * Improved Vista support * Enhanced PDF export
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
* Quickstarter for GNU/Linux I never saw this feature in a final vanilla build. I've only seen it in ooo-build and in a vanilla release candidate, so you may want to exclude it from this list. Hmm, o.k., I have to look into this, but I guess the Quickstarter isn't the coolest feature anyway. * Soon: PDF Import Extension * Soon: Presenter Console Will these be released simultaneously with OOo 3.0 beta? If not, perhaps they should be excluded. It was not fun hyping the 3D OpenGL extension for 2.4, and then it's still not released today. Also, it would help to have them released beforehand---even privately---if you want someone to write about them. The will become available a few weeks after the start of the OpenOffice.org beta according to the current schedule. However, I at least like to put a placeholder on the feature list page, so that people know that these features are still coming. * Soon: Wiki Publisher FYI. I played with this one, but it gave me numerous problems. For example, it has problems[1] with Wikipedia, the most popular MediaWiki wiki. [1] http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88649 Thanks for the link! * Connect to WebDAV servers via HTTPS This is too technical for a general audience. Hmm, your probably right. However, for some people it's pretty important. Thus, maybe we need Other Features bucket where we just list the feature. * Improved Vista support Isn't Vista support improved in many versions since 2.0.1? That's true! Anyway, we should document that we run on Vista. * Extension framework enhancements - Inclusion of online help information - Inclusion of publisher and release note information - Check-for-update mechanism If I remember correctly, OpenOffice.org as an application has also had incremental improvements in regards to checking for updates in this time frame. I guess the extension framework improvements are also to technical and thus should also be moved to the Other Features section that I suggested above. If yes, what features would you like to cover? Please keep in mind that we don't have too much time, as I think it would be good to have the information ready for the beta launch. Thus, there are just a few days left. Any decisions as the appropriateness of linking to sites other than on the Sun and OpenOffice.org domains? Martin Hollmichel and I brought this up recently, but I didn't see a decision. I think it's o.k. to link to other pages and resources on a case by case basis, but we definitely should make sure that the large majority of the information and content resides on OpenOffice.org in order to make sure that users find all the key information in one place. The links should just provide additional background information, i.e. complementary material. Keeping as much as possible on OpenOffice.org also has the benefit that native-language communities can translate the content like they did last time. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
BTW, who is willing to help with screenshots and feature descriptions? We even might want to include screencasts of key features. Is anybody interested in helping with the OpenOffice.org 3.0 beta launch plan? It would be useful to have some people help with writing feature descriptions, taking screenshots, etc. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and likes doing booth duty?
Hi all, Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and likes doing booth duty for OpenOffice.org and ODF? Every now and then there is an event from Sun where OpenOffice.org gets the opportunity to demo the OpenOffice.org application as well as the project/community. In those cases it often would be good to have local community members who would be willing to help with booth duty. Is any body here interested? Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Joost, Joost Andrae wrote (3-3-2008 0:00) please let also Martin Hollmichel know when it's finished. I'll be on CeBIT next week and Martin will stand-in for me (regarding the release). Done - mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a good time at the CeBIT! Cor, thanks a lot for your edits! I just took a look at the release notes. They look good to me! All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
O.k., I took a very first stab at the release notes for OpenOffice.org 2.4 by moving content from the Feature Freeze Testing 2.4 wiki page to the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.4 From my point of view the next steps are: 1.) Optimizing / cleaning up the wording in the Full List 2.) Writing up summaries for the New Features in OpenOffice.org 2.4 section 3.) Adding more blogs and screen shots 4.) Adding the Known Issues Feel free to contribute to whatever section you like!!! All the best, Erwin Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote (8-2-2008 14:27) Where are we with the OpenOffice.org 2.4 release notes? This says it al: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=26198 Has anybody already started? In what areas is help needed? I've done some work. But to be honest, I'm far behind my schedule because of some technical 'challenges' with my work. So if we will make if before mid February, with RC1, as Marting would like, is not sure. Regards, Cor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Cor, Sophie, ... Where are we with the OpenOffice.org 2.4 release notes? Has anybody already started? In what areas is help needed? All the best, Erwin Cor Nouws wrote: Cor Nouws wrote (3-2-2008 11:14) Fine that you think it is OK. Then I'll drop a note on the forum (see below). Done so! http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=414st=0sk=tsd=astart=10#p9916 Are there others of the marketing project who like to join this effort and make an early study of the OOo 2.4 new features ? Thanks, Cor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi Sophie, Great idea! Actually I had a similar idea just the other day because I think it's time to recruit more developers and ISV's. However, I doubt that we already have such a flyer. Maybe we even want to create a white paper. I definitely would like to work together with you on such a document! All the best, Erwin sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Thanks in advance for your help Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. Two resources that I frequently find useful in my discussions with ISV's and potential customers / OpenOffice.org users as well as the press are the following two wiki pages: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions I'm sure that there are a lot more large scale OpenOffice.org deployments than those listed on the market share wiki page. Therefore, we should frequently remind people (e.g. the members of the native-lang community) to update the list by adding their local success stories. In addition, it would be great to get video endorsements from some of these OpenOffice.org users, so that we can publish them on sites like YouTube. The same is true for the solutions wiki page. We need to capture all the solutions that integrate with OpenOffice.org and/or complement OpenOffice.org. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing
I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. System builders might not get money for installing MS Works, but they might get money (e.g. via revenue sharing) from selling upgrades to the full MS Office product. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...
Hi, I'm not saying this already exists, but I thought it would be useful to highlight the following existing wiki pages again: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions Cheers, Erwin Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi, i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new section in the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional users like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions based on OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story about the support from the community (or even from professionals who offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or based on OO.org, The benefit for the project would be that we get an overview who is using our office and especially who did a little bit more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more than an office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out. Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important would be that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office suite ;-) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design
Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other Facebook-based advertising. Apple has one specifically targeting students, and has built up over 400,000 group members. (We do have a free group already, OpenOffice.org Users, which might be enough.) Or perhaps some other types of ads on Facebook. I like the idea of targeting social networks like Facebook. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty?
Hi all, Who here on this list is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty? OpenOffice.org will have a presence in the exhibition area at JavaOne, and I would not mind a little help. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty?
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2007-04-27, at 10:14 , Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, Who here on this list is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty? OpenOffice.org will have a presence in the exhibition area at JavaOne, and I would not mind a little help. Ed Buck has helped in the past, as has Flip. I've tried reaching Ed fairly recently but no response. Erwin, can I ask you to send me details of OOo's presence at JavaOne so i can advertise it on the homepage? This is what we traditionally do with events. Juergen Schmidt will talk about the NetBeans plug-in for OpenOffice.org development as part of the open source track at JavaOne. In addition, OpenOffice.org got a few slots (there are so many projects that we have to share and rotate) in the so-called .org zone as part of the exhibition area. I already got one reply from a potential volunteer. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Tools for quick polls?
Hi all, Quick question. I hope you can help me. What tools (online services and software tools that can be installed on a server) do you know that can be used to setup quick polls, i.e. online polls that last for a few days and where participants can view the voting results? Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Promoting open source in education
I was just made aware of the following OpenSolaris learning resources that can be used by universities as part of their curriculum: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/curriculum_development/ Maybe we could come up with similar topics for OpenOffice.org!? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] FYI: OpenOffice.org wins in the 2006 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award
FYI The polls are closed and the results are in for the 2006 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards (http://www.linuxquestions.org/awards/). Among the winners are Ubuntu, Firefox, MySQL and OpenOffice.org. The Members Choice Awards allow members of the Linux community to choose their favorite products in a variety of categories including Linux Distribution of the Year, Office Suite of the Year and Web Browser of the Year. The total number of categories this year was 21. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/2/prweb506056.htm Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org usage in public hospital
One more thing. Can you add the success story to our wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis Thanks, Erwin Görkem Çetin wrote: Hi For the last 3 years, OpenOffice.org products have been successfully used in Ankara Atatürk Public Hospital, just exceeding 500 clients. Thanks to everyone who made OpenOffice.org the best open source office product in the world! Best Görkem OpenOffice.org Turkey Marketing Lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Ministry of Justice of Finland chooses OpenOffice
Great news! Marko, thanks a lot for sending this to the marketing list. Best regards, Erwin Marko Gronroos wrote: (I hope this is the most suitable list for these news.) Ministry of Justice of Finland has made the decision to adopt the Open Source OpenOffice.org suite as its office software from beginning of 2007. Ministry of Justice and its branch of administration will also adopt OpenDocument Format standard as the file format for its documents. All 1 Windows workstations of the ministry and its branch of administration will be fitted with OpenOffice.org suite and readiness for OpenDocument by end of 2006. OpenOffice.org replaces currently used Lotus SmartSuite software so that OpenOffice.org will cover about 85% of total use, while Microsoft Office will cover about 15%. The Ministry of Justice published a report in early 2005, which recommended transition to OpenOffice. After the report, the ministry started a pilot phase with over 150 users, ending in September 2006. Results of the pilot were that the functionality of OpenOffice was sufficient for the administrative branch of Ministry of Justice and that the compatibility with Microsoft Office was high. Piloting used OpenOffice.org version 2, which uses OpenDocument standard as its default file format. OpenDocument was accepted as international ISO standard (ISO 26300) in May 2006. The reports of the Ministry of Justice are publicly available, as are an installation manual and a user's guide. The publications are available (in Finnish) from: http://www.om.fi/30801.htm http://www.om.fi/Etusivu/Julkaisut/Julkaisusarjat/Toimintajahallinto/Toiminnanjahallinnonarkisto/Toimintajahallinto2006/1160733641585 http://www.om.fi/Etusivu/Julkaisut/Julkaisusarjat/Toimintajahallinto/Toiminnanjahallinnonarkisto/Toimintajahallinto2006/1157538492255 http://www.om.fi/Etusivu/Julkaisut/Julkaisusarjat/Oikeusministerionjulkaisuja/Julkaisujenarkisto/Oikeusministerionjulkaisuj%20%20%20%20a2006/1161942336573 Some older official information regarding the migration project is available in English: http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/4105/469 http://hiisi.fi/blog/post/2005/03/22/ministry-of-justice-prefers-xml/ For more information in Finnish, see the Finnish Native-Lang project page: http://fi.openoffice.org/julkiset.html#uutinen_20061205 Marko Grönroos Marketing contact Finnish OpenOffice.org project http://fi.openoffice.org/ -- Marko Grönroos, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://www.iki.fi/magi/) -- Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://stonesoft.com/) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org's Norwegian group wins 30,000NOK prize
Wow! These are great news! Erwin Lars D. Noodén wrote: Below is a fast and sloppy translation of the article. The original is here: http://www.digi.no/php/art.php?id=355064 -Lars OpenOffice.org translators receive prize by Eirik Rossen This years prize for advancement of Free Software went to the translators of OpenOffice.org The annual prize for the advancement of Free Software was handed out yesterday. Of the 25 nominated candidates, the Foundation for Free Norwegian Office Software won. The prize is given on the initiative of the Norwegian Unix User Group (NUUG) and the Oslo Polytechnic and amounts to 30 000 NOK. The goal is to increase awareness of free software and open standards, and is awarded to individuals or groups in Norway who distinguish themselves with their contribution. Yesterday's tribute was the fifth time the prize has been given out. The Foundation for Free Norwegian Office Software received the prize for its work with the organization and coordination of the translation of the Free productivity suite, OpenOffice.org to both main dialects of Norwegian. The foundation also works to influence key stakeholders to adopt financial, business and archival systems using OpenOffice.org The jury opines that access to software in ones native language is important to guarantee that everyone can benefit from the tools needed in today's IT-Norway. In the introduction it continues: The Foundation for Free Norwegian Office Software has contributed to the guarantee that writing tools that are needed at many work places now exist in both Bokmål and Nynorsk, and thus helped the continuation of the Norwegian language. It has also increased general knowledge of open standards by enabling usage of an open data format, and contributed to greater choice by providing Linux-users access to a complete productivity suite. The prize winners have in a distinguished manner put deed before talk in regards to open standards and Free software. Instead of forcing all to use software from a single vendor, they have given everyone the freedom to choose software in Norwegian. Through the translation of this freely available productivity suite, everyone gets full support for open data formats. The OpenDocument format is ratified by the International Standards Organization (ISO). Norwegian users have gained an productivity suite which can be freely downloaded both for commercial and personal use, on a range of platforms such as Windows, Linux and Macintosh. Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)
I just returned from vacation. Thus, sorry for the delayed response. Can your two-page (one-sheet) flyer/datasheet be viewed somewhere? I'd like to take a look at your work. Cheers, Erwin Graham wrote: On Wednesday 20 September 2006 03:02, John McCreesh wrote: On Tue, September 19, 2006 07:47, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, Do we have a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer that talks about both, the application and the project? I'm aware of the 4-page flyer at http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/marketingmaterials.html However, even though the flyer is very nice, it does not talk enough about the project and how someone can join the community and start contributing. Do we have something like that? That is very much a product flyer. It was designed so that you can reduce it to two pages by just printing pages one and four, but it doesn't try to sell the community as well. John I've got the graphical bits pretty much done and I've created some toon characters to represent the various types of members of the project. What I need now is benefits for the individuals. I've started a list below feel free to add and subtract. Developers: The opportunity to play with the code of largest OpenSource project. The Opportunity to learn from a large of very experienced developers The opportunity of having your code becoming part of a huge project Writers: The opportunity for Tech Writers of all different levels to work with highly skilled Tech Writers and Editors. The opportunity to become part of the team of Authors on one of the largest collaborative writing projects anywhere. To have your name listed in the credits for the OOo manuals Marketers: Being part of a worldwide team taking on the acknowledged Giant of the Industry. Anyone that thrives on a challenge no matter how seemingly insurmountable the odds will love this challenge. Artists: To be able to contribute art to Worldwide marketing campaigns. For books and manuals and information. This is corporate Art across the board. The advantage is that you only have to work on that which interests you. Users: You've started using the Software and you're loving it: Come and be part of the support team on the Users Mail List and OOoForum OK I think that's about enough to go on with. I figure two or three things for each group. Cheers G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)
Two page brochure is a bit of a misnomer, in that there are always four pages.:-) You may like to check out the 2page brochure template at http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template_2_x/brochure_2page.ott and see if it can be adapted to your goals. I'm looking for an easy-to-print two-page one-sheet flyer/datasheet that promotes both the application and the project/community, i.e. attracting users and contributors. The document could be used at various open source events. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)
I've got a bit of time today. I'll start on one Great! Thanks a lot! Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)
Hi all, Do we have a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer that talks about both, the application and the project? I'm aware of the 4-page flyer at http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/marketingmaterials.html However, even though the flyer is very nice, it does not talk enough about the project and how someone can join the community and start contributing. Do we have something like that? Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo reference about OpenDocument
I thought it was already listed. In our last ODF Adoption TC call it was mentioned that StarOffice, IBM Workplace and OpenOffice.org (and others) were already listed. Unfortunately, I did not double check. Sorry! Probably we can take a paragraph from the features/overview pages!? Erwin Laurent Godard wrote: Hi all a new site is available and listed products supporting opendocument http://opendocument.xml.org/products OOo is not listed but should be as it is the implementation reference for OpenDocument Any advertizing text available that could fit for a description ? any opnion ? Laurent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Marketing Project get-together at OOoCon
I will already spent the weekend in Lyon. Thus, any time should work for me. Cheers, Erwin John McCreesh wrote: I'd like to have a get-together of Marketing Project folks - particularly MarCons - at OOoConf during the community meetings day (Monday) http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2006/schedule/monday.html It's good to meet people face to face, hear about the good things that everyone has done, and discuss how we can work together more effectively over the next twelve months. It would also be good to get some photos of people for the MP site to show the world we are real people :-) The morning would be best from a scheduling point of view (there isn't much overlap between MP and ESC membership) but some people may not arrive until the afternoon. I definitely don't want a clash with the NLC meeting. So, If you would like to attend, please vote +1 against any time which you can attend: 11.00-12.00 12.00-13.00 14.00-15.00 15.00-16.00 And if there's any topics you'd particularly like to discuss please let me know. Thanks - John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] France says OpenOffice.org is not secure enough
Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: It's very interesting to see that Microsoft once again is behind this OOo FUD. Can we use this important information from Simon in an official answer to the attack? I guess we should not use the information and I'm not convinced that it is a wise thing to do, i.e. get into a direkt fight. From my point of view there is a way to present the news in a much more positive light: * Yes, ZIP and XML are open techniques which make it easy for someone to include malicious elements. However, the transparent nature of these technologies also make it easy to detect malicious elements. It's like with open source in general. Yes, on the one hand the availability of source code makes it easier to identify and exploit security holes. However, for the same reasons issues can be identified and fixed faster. * Yes, the cross-platform scripting support of OpenOffice.org makes it possible to run macros (including malicious ones) across platforms, and thus the risks are higher. However, at the same time potential benefits are higher as well. Driving a 500 horse power sports car is theoretically more dangerous than 70 horse power compact car because people can drive faster and thus kill themselves more easily. However, a sports car does not have to be more dangerous. If one drives the sports car accordingly, there is no higher risk. And if someone likes to drive fast, because he or she thinks it's more fun, than the risk of being killed in a car crash is something one has to live with. * Military government agencies are developing extensions for OpenOffice.org. They most likely won't do that if they were seriously concerned about the security of OpenOffice.org compared to available alternatives. * Mr. Filiol was impressed by the fast response from the OpenOffice.org including Sun Microsystems. There is a very positive quote in the report! * We're happy about the external security audits by organizations like the ESAT, because the feedback helps to develop a very secure office productivity solution. * Due to the availability of the source code, companies and government organizations can help developing new security features and concepts. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Fwd: Suggestion for major media ads
Have we ever done this? Yes and no. We once got an offer from a Munich-based newspaper with a circulation of 800,000 copies. Since they are/were using OpenOffice.org themselves, they wanted to give something back by printing ads for free in cases where they have free ad space. I created a few ads in different formats and over a few moths the ads got printed a few times. Erwin Benjamin Horst wrote: This suggestion came in from someone following the OOo ads project. Sounds like a great idea! Have we ever done anything like this? -Ben Begin forwarded message: From: Matthijs Dierckx - Het Redactielokaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 20, 2006 7:43:56 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Suggestion Hi there, Just a thought: I work in the magazine publishing business and we often receive cd-roms with ads for NGO's. We use them in situations when an advertisement is cancelled 1 minute before going to print. Here in The Netherlands all non-profit organisations send such cd's to any major publishing house and see their ads appear on a quite regular basis. I don't know if this goes for other countries as well, but you could give it a try. Produce several high resolution versions of your ad, in as many formats as you can think of and off you go. Greetings, Matthijs Dierckx --het Redactielokaal t. 020 42 876 88 f. 020 42 876 93 www.redactielokaal.nl Postbus 15408 1001 MK AMSTERDAM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Re: [project leads] changes in leads of Marketing Project
Hello Jacqueline, Thanks a lot for all your help and hard work! I hopt to see you again at some future OpenOffice.org Conference! Cheers, Erwin Jacqueline McNally wrote: Hello I would like to formally advise that John and Cristian are the new leads of the Marketing Project, and have been for some weeks now. Cristian assumed the role of Co-Lead on 23 April (http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=23213) and John the Lead role, on 16 May (http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=23589). I said it in the previous notices, but I'll say it again. Cristian and John continue to contribute generously to OpenOffice.org. The Why OpenOffice.org? (http://why.openoffice.org/) campaign I'm sure will be the question that is the answer for many. Please offer your support so that OpenOffice.org may be marketed in an open and professional manner. Thank you too, to all the people that supported me in the lead roles and worked with me on the multitude of activities that participating in marketing OpenOffice.org entails. All the best and thank you for having me. Regards Jacqueline McNally OOoCon2006 in Lyon (http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/) Are you a computer angel? (www.computerangels.org.au) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] FYI: Belgian government chooses OpenDocument - ZDNet UK News
FYI The OpenDocument Format (ODF) is to be the standard format for exchanging documents within the Belgian government. This proposal, which is expected to be approved by Belgium's Council of Ministers on Friday, increases the pressure from governments worldwide on Microsoft to embrace open standards. From September 2008 onwards, all document exchanges within the services of the Belgian Government will have to be in an open, standard format, according to the proposal now before the Belgian Ministers. Only ODF is accepted as such a standard in the proposal. Earlier drafts of the Belgian proposal had treated ODF and Microsoft's own Open XML format (which is to be included in Office 2007) on equal footing. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39276978,00.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] FYI: ODF in India
FYI Welcoming this initiative and highlighting its importance in Indian IT Scenario, Chandershekhar, secretary, Ministry of Information Technology, Government of India said, We are glad to note that with formation of a National ODF alliance, India too would be playing a pivotal role in spearheading the ODF revolution. Further, considering the huge potential of eGovernance in the nation as well as the need to adopt open standards to make our data systems more inter-operable and independent of any limiting proprietary tools, we feel that ODF is a great technological leap and a big boon to further propel IT right to India's grass root levels. I congratulate this initiative of leading private public organisations and wish them all the best in this endeavor. http://www.ciol.com/content/search/showarticle1.asp?artid=85632 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] REMINDER: CFP deadline for OOoCon 2006 is 1 June 2006!!!
Hello everybody, This is just a short reminder that the deadline for the call for papers (CFP) for the OpenOffice.org Conference 2006 is approaching very quickly. There are only about two weeks left. The deadline is 1 June 2006! Details about the CFP can be found here: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2006/cfp.html Thus, please submit your abstracts if you want to contribute to the conference! If you don't know how to cover the costs for travel and accommodation, please submit your abstract anyway. Although there is no guarantee, it has been possible to sponsor a few speakers all the previous years. Thus, don't let the travel costs discourage you from at least submitting a paper. Thanks a lot and best regards, The OpenOffice.org Conference Team - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page / Input welcome!
Shouldn't that list also include: i) IME's; ii) Translation Tools --- both machine human; Which ones come to your mind? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] new co-lead
Welcome Cristian! Great to have you on the project! All the best, Erwin Jacqueline McNally wrote: Hello I would like to announce a new co-lead of the Marketing Project, Cristian Driga. As one of the most active contributors I'm sure you will agree that Cristian needs little or no introduction. Cristian is the Project Lead of the Romanian Native-Language Project and Marketing Contact (MarCon) for Romania. In addition, he has contributed greatly to many OpenOffice.org marketing activities including the development of the market surveys, polls and voting mechanisms, and was the founder of the Art Project together with Vitor. More recently, Cristian has been very active in encouraging and implementing the use of the OpenOffice.org wiki for use by the Marketing Project. I am very enthusiastic about Cristian's why.openoffice.org initiative and the activity that both he and John have promoted these last couple of weeks. The leadership structure remains in place as John and I will continue as the project co-lead and lead respectively with regard to project lead votes. That is, I am the primary voter and John is my deputy. Initially, so that Cristian and John can focus on generating interest and producing why.openoffice.org, I will continue to carry out the project administration. For example, responding to requests to join the project and queries from within and outside our project. Cristian will join John and I in planning and project management. Please welcome Cristian to his new role. Regards Jacqueline McNally Lead, OpenOffice.org Marketing Project OOoCon2006 in Lyon (http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/) Are you a computer angel? (www.computerangels.org.au) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] FYI: New OpenOffice.org T-Shirts on CafePress.com
FYI There are some new OpenOffice.org t-shirts on CafePress.com! The design ideas come from the recent Sun Redmond bus campaign. Here is the URL: http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OpenOffice.org Market Share Analysis
Hi all, I created a new OpenOffice.org Market Share Analysis wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis The page tries to provide a tabular summary of the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments Please help to get more data (verified if possible!) onto that page! The data will help to convince more users and ISVs to adopt the OpenOffice.org platform. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Draft in Wiki]
Does anybody have comments? I think I haven't seen any, yet. Thanks, Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: FYI Please reply to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list! Thanks, Erwin Subject: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Draft in Wiki From: Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:32:17 +0100 To: conference@marketing.openoffice.org To: conference@marketing.openoffice.org Hi all, As you most likely know, a close to final draft of the call for location for OOoCon 2006 is available in our Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon_2006_Call_for_Location I haven't seen a lot feedback yet. Therefore, I wanted to ask one more time for comments and edits. What should be the deadline? What needs to be changed, added or removed from the draft? Who can help with getting submitted proposals online for the voting? What mechanisms do we want to distribute/publish the call for location? I will also forward this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck
Since I don't know all the details about this incident I will try to stay neutral by saying that my understanding is that any elected project lead is empowered to do whatever he or she thinks is necessary to run the project. In cases of disagreement between different parties, the Community Council is supposed to be the mediating body. If issues are caused or heavily influenced by Sun, the Sun Community Council representative is supposed to escalate the issue. If that does not help or if people do not trust that representative, an email can be send to Ombudsman at Sun dot com: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink?entry=open_source_ombudsman Best regards, Erwin Claus Agerskov wrote: First of all I agree with what Ian Lynch replied. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: Claus Agerskov wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: The OpenOffice.org project guidelines suggest communications of these types of decisions privately, and I remember you yourself said praise on-list and critique off-list. Yes critique - but telling MarCons to leave their position is not critism but kicking them out. Ryan started this thread of his own volition. I did not ask him to resign or kick him out. I sent him a private message revoking his MarCon role. How whould you feel if your role was revoked? If you only criticise off list then only the one who is criticised will see what is criticizable so the rest of the project members does not learn from it. And the rest of the project members can't respond if your critism is wrong. I agree with you. And I'm in a somewhat of a dilemma. You are saying that any critique is to be public, whereas others and the OpenOffice.org guidelines are saying that it is to be private. I prefer any communication to be public, especially difficult or awkward situations. For example, there has been some email conversations in which I have been cc'd in that I would have prefered not to. Statements about other community members that I consider to be scandalous if not libelous, but because private messages or marked as in-confidence, I have no easy way of verifying or doing anything about it. And to be quite honest would have preferred to be not involved. I quite understand people stating in their sigs, reply to the list only. I can see that your own role are on stake if you are not following the guidelines. But how do we change the guidelines (and where are they by the way? You can view criticizable behavior as a bug - and in open source projects bugs are discussed openly. I agree with you, but others state otherwise. It seems that the ones in charge does not have a clue on open source projects and how they should be ran. I will only now consider public critique to Ryan at his request. When you become a member of an open source project you will be a target of public critic - escpecially from you peers. And I'm ok with that, but I'm not ok with what people consider all is wrong with the OOo MP is my problem. I am not the MP. No you and John are project leaders - and as you have acted on your own without your co-leader will be seen as a formal act of OOo MP - so in this case you act as the (only) formal leader of OOo MP. Then others of OOo MP react - and their oponions are also a part of OOo MP. The Project Leads are responsible for the recruitment of and liaison with MarCons. Usually, potential candidates contact us, as two did earlier this week. The What Do MarCons Do? is a minimum, and I'm happy to say that most of the MarCons exceed these requirements. And where did Ryan not meet the What Do MarCons Do?? http://ooosmp.homelinux.org/GoalsandObjectives/MarketingProject That is up to Ryan to say if he wishes. No - it is up to you to tell what is the reason for revoking Ryan's MarCon role. It is not his. (And why is the formal guidelines for the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project on a different domain than openoffice.org - the it does not look formal - I could write something on ooo.chbs.dk/marketing and state that this is formal OpenOffice.org Marketing Project guidelines). The most enjoyable New Year greetings - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] [Fwd: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Draft in Wiki]
FYI Please reply to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list! Thanks, Erwin ---BeginMessage--- Hi all, As you most likely know, a close to final draft of the call for location for OOoCon 2006 is available in our Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon_2006_Call_for_Location I haven't seen a lot feedback yet. Therefore, I wanted to ask one more time for comments and edits. What should be the deadline? What needs to be changed, added or removed from the draft? Who can help with getting submitted proposals online for the voting? What mechanisms do we want to distribute/publish the call for location? I will also forward this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Erwin ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Conference inspired marketing thoughts
I think collaboration/co-marketing makes a lot of sense. I even could imagine doing some work together with KOffice, AbiWord and other projects that support OpenDocument. Yes, on a feature level OpenOffice.org is competing with KOffice, but the success of OpenDocument is critical to both projects since OpenDocument can provide the credibility that we did not have in the past. Many of you probably have seen Sun's recent ads showing different people holding up a sign. We could come up with something similar showing all the people/projects/organizations supporting OpenDocument. Just and idea, Erwin Jacqueline McNally wrote: Hello Ian Thanks for all your thoughts - quite a brain dump :) It will take me a little while to think them through, as we already have in place much of what you suggested except for bringing to the fore your suggestion of promoting StarOffice and OpenOffice.org. The reason you give is important, i.e. SO and OOo are the first applications to support OpenDocument. We have a comparison table (v1.x) that includes SO vs OOo, and I know that Sun do have an updated one for the promotion of their SO8 product. I think it is important to be aware of other products, especially when you are in a consultancy role and providing professional advice. SO and OOo have previously participated in joint marketing, and it makes sense to better that in addition to further our joint marketing with other adopters of OpenDocument. What do others think of this and other issues that Ian (iannz) has raised ? Regards Jacqueline - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
Sorry, I had to be busy with other stuff. Why don't you propose something to the PR list and maybe even write the first draft? All the best, Erwin Adam Moore wrote: On 9/1/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 12:31 -0400, swhiser wrote: BTW, we were talking about PR and OOo spokespeople with official lines. Isn't this the type of thing OOo should be taking an official line on and releasing it to the press? I mean its about as good as it gets for setting a positive marketing environment. -- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZMSL Yep this is the reason why I think we need a Public Relations team. They could have gotten together and started talking to the press. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Moore wrote: I wanna be somebody and not just anybody. Because if nobody is going to do it at least I am somebody. Sounds good to me. You probably need to E-mail Jacqueline though after what was said about speaking on behalf of the project. (Unless she is reading this.) Yes! At least we should use the established means like the PR list, so that people get an opportunity to review and comment and also to approve or reject. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
MA doesn't need help from OOo Marketing. They need a vendors and, as I said before, IBM, Novell and others will do. Will either MA or Novell join the OpenDocument TC? Just curious!? All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
Yeah, so I went and did it myself. Which is perfectly fine, since you did not act as an OpenOffice.org official, and the articles had great impact! Congratulations! Any official OpenOffice.org response however, should follow OpenOffice.org guidelines, e.g. have people review and official statement. Anybody can propose an official article or press release, but should be prepared to make modifications based on community feedback. Individual/personal statements outside of the OpenOffice.org project/community context however, don't have to follow these guidelines, i.e. if people don't act as OpenOffice.org officials and hopefully don't say nonsense, they are free to write, say and blog what they want. BTW, the news about MA's decision haven't spread in Germany yet, but I'm pretty sure they will get picked-up today. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
But this particular case highlights a problem. News is immediate in many cases. This is perhaps the biggest thing since the Munich case and this thread started on Wednesday. The marketing list has been pretty quiet for months and recently we have had 210 posts on some fairly important issues such as who can and can't speak for OOo, which shows and conferences we should and should not attend and how we deal more effectively with PR. I'm a bit surprised that in 210 posts, none have I agree with the problem statement, but I'm not convinced that having everybody saying what comes to his or her mind in the name of the OpenOffice.org project would be a good thing. As mentioned before, we have a PR list. So far many people have talked about approaching the press, but I haven't seen a specific proposal for an announcement from anybody, yet. Yes, the MA news are a great opportunity and we should try to leverage the momentum as much as we can, but the OpenOffice.org project should speak with one voice and one message. Thus, we should at least put together a short list of key messages we want to stick to. That should not take very long and could also be quickly translated to various other languages. Do we have any volunteers for that? been from the marketing leads. If the only members of the hierarchy that post to the marketing list are Louis and Erwin, it undermines confidence in the marketing project leadership. What decisions will be taken as a result of these discussions and who takes them? I let the leads speak for themselves. Nevertheless, everybody hear can make a proposal for PR activities. They only have to go through a (quick) review process, if they're intended to come from the project and not just from the individuals. But we also need people to be able to speak immediately. Its not just press releases, its being able to take opportunities. One of the strengths of Open Source in general is that it isn't - or shouldn't - be constrained by the same bureaucratic mechanisms as a Cathedral. If people get approached by the press, which definitely happens, they can either refer to the official local project/marcon lead or just comment as an individual, maybe as a community member but not as a community representative. I completely understand the issue of too much control. That's why I became a big fan of blogs.sun.com. But on the site blogs.sun.com it also clearly says that people are expressing their own, individual opinions and are not speaking for Sun. Most people say and do the right things about OpenOffice.org, but unfortunately there have been some occassions where told the press wild stuff in the name of the OpenOffice.org project. That's what I would like to prevent as much as possible! Individual/personal statements outside of the OpenOffice.org project/community context however, don't have to follow these guidelines, i.e. if people don't act as OpenOffice.org officials and hopefully don't say nonsense, they are free to write, say and blog what they want. BTW, the news about MA's decision haven't spread in Germany yet, So maybe someone who speaks German should make sure it happens ;-) but I'm pretty sure they will get picked-up today. Why not be certain? I will see what I can do, but I personally for sure won't speak in the name of the OpenOffice.org project of Sun. ;-) O.k., what PR activities do you suggest from an OpenOffice.org project point of view? What would be the key messages we want to talk about? What will be our news, to make sure the press picks up what we have/want to say? All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
My limited experience, trying to get a PR release after Corel announced plans to support Linux, is that this is not quick. The recent beta 2 announcement was prepared within 24 hours. The were some issues coming from the release engineering side that caused an additional delay, but the announcement text was prepared collaboratively in a short time frame. Are you saying that MarCons are spokesmen for the project? That would be good to know. I didn't realize that came out of the recent discussion. Are you saying that MarCons are spokesmen for the project? That would be good to know. I didn't realize that came out of the recent discussion. To be honest, I had not thought too much about that when I quickly wrote my reply. I have to admit I'm not fully aware who is currently a member of the marcon list. Thus, without a check I would not go that far that a member of the marcon list is automatically also an official PR spokesperson. Since we had lots of trouble in different areas and different projects with people expressing their own opinions and implementing their own personal strategies in the name of OpenOffice.org. Thus, there has to be some kind of control mechanism in place, e.g. the official spokespeople could be some elected members of the community with the approval of the communit council. Since we need local contact people the native-lang project leads plus the marketing project leads and the community council members would be a good start. In addition, we could add a few additional PR experts with the approval of the community council. Whoever the project picks, we would also need a mechanism to stop people from doing/saying what they want to do/say if start to act like a loose cannon. For example telling the press nonse twice (i.e. one more time after warning by the CC) would kick you out of their elected roles and worst case maybe even the project. I know that sounds harsh, but looking at some of the trouble that we had/have (I don't want to talk names or projects here), we need to be able to control official OpenOffice.org communication. We unfortunately have/had too many people saying I'm Mr./Mrs. OpenOffice.org and spreading messages that the larger community did not support. BTW, sorry for appearing so negative and critizing again in my comments. ;-) All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument
I will see what I can do, but I personally for sure won't speak in the name of the OpenOffice.org project of Sun. ;-) Wouldn't that be missing an important PR opportunity? Not necessarily, I can still refer to the local OpenOffice.org project leads here in Germany or get Sun PR involved. Yes, we might lose out on a few opportunities (although I'm not sure about that), but at least our messaging would be consistent. If I speak in the name of the community, I want to know what at least key people from the community think. I personally also could not really talk in the name of OpenOffice.org, because the risk is high that the press concluded Sun equals OpenOffice.org or cited me as the Product Marketing Manager for OpenOffice.org at Sun Microsystems, but beside some exceptions I'm not allowed to talk to the press. I think everyone here trusts you to not say something wildly off base when speaking for OpenOffice.org. Very rarely it happens that I have to talk to the press as a Sun employee with no Sun PR support available. For example at the LinuxTag event someone from the most popular computer magazine here in Germany wanted to see a demo of the new StarOffice 8 features. I did not feel comfortable, because it's hard to keep all the possible side effects and the larger picture in mind. I tried to be as conservative as possible. Fortunately it went relatively well. However, I could have easily made very harmful mistakes. The intention of Sun's work with/via the Sun PR folks policy is not make life less fun for employees or to do less PR, but to protect the individual employees from making stupid mistakes as well as protecting the company against any wild messages. If it had not happened with OpenOffice.org yet, I probably would care less, but it has. Therefore, we need some policies and boundaries. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Press kit for OpenOffice.org 2.0 final
Hi all, We still have some time because beta 2 just got released, but I think we should prepare a press kit for OpenOffice.org 2.0 final like we had for previous major releases. I created a new issue for this effort which includes a link to an old press kit: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=54015 Help is welcome! Best regards, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Please help to promote the OpenOffice.org Conference!
Hi all, Please help to promote the OpenOffice.org Conference! For example, if you're a blogger, you can just put a logo or banner on your website: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dancer?entry=please_help_to_promote_the Also invite friends, relatives, co-workers, etc.! In addition, let the other OpenOffice.org projects know that you are involved in! Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???
Thanks a lot to all for pointing me to the existing resources! I'll try to consolidate the content from all the different presentations into one standard presentation. I also will include 2-3 slide designs/layouts. What slide designs/layouts from the existing slides do you like in particular? What don't you like about them? What content should at least be covered by a standard presentation? Who would be interested in helping with the preparation of additional slides, provided we identify areas where we still need slides? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Desktop linux summit
redundant effort; look at Firefox pulling away. BTW, why don't you spend your time on FireFox then? Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Desktop linux summit
The gross mismanagement of this project -- leaving aside its bad structure -- is too big an insult to ignore. If you think ... ( I could not find a better translation for Wenn Du meinst ) Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Questions around events
Hi all, Due to the recent discussions there seem to be more general questions that need to be answered independently of the actual events and the people going to those events. For example, is it better being present at an event at all, even if the presence is poor, than having no presence? Since we all want that OpenOffice.org appears in the best light possible, I think we need define some kind of minimum level of presence or engagement, in case we decide to go to an event. I'm not sure what this minimum level should look like. A simple table where 50% of the time nobody is available as a contact person because the booth is understaffed, is probably not something that puts OpenOffice.org in the best light (I'm not saying that this has happened!). Another question is, who may say what (as an official OpenOffice.org representative)? It would be useful to have some consistent messaging and a few official spokes people, e.g. the marketing project leads, community council members and maybe native-lang project leads. From my point of view it does not work if everybody feels empowered to represent OpenOffice.org in press interviews without engaging an OpenOffice.org official. An open source project obviously has less boundaries and restrictions than a corporate environment, but for example at Sun there are very strict policies regarding press interviews, etc., and I think these policies make sense. We probably need official press kits and press FAQs for those people to hand out who do not hold an official OpenOffice.org role. Even the official spokes people should not be allowed to say anything they want to about OpenOffice.org, because wrong or misleading statements from them can be very damaging to the project. A question that affects me myself as a Sun employee is, how much a sponsoring company (Sun in my case) may promote itself when it is officially representing OpenOffice.org. Yes, I admit that I do mention Sun and I do let them look good, but I typically also try to include most/all other good citizens, i.e. I also mention companies like Novell in my presentations. Novell (e.g. Michael Meeks) typicall mentions Sun. If I'm supposed to do an OpenOffice.org presentation, I'm not just using the StarOffice customer pitch, even though StarOffice is based on OpenOffice.org and Sun is still the main code contributor. Another question might be, what events we officially want to support, i.e. fund with money from Team OpenOffice.org, mention on the OpenOffice.org home page, etc. There are probably some key events that we should focus on. I'm not sure what the selection criteria should be, but enough local human resources could be one since flying people from Germany to India or from Russia to the US just to do booth duty is probably to expensive, at least if these people receive some kind of sponsorship. I'm looking forward to you open and friendly feedback as well as your proposals how to answer these questions! All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
What you term non-OOo developers could mean any of us on the Marketing list. Some people might feel offended, but yes, I include people like you and me who do not write code and do not have to make their living from writing code. The whole GPL/foundation question is not just a philosophical issue that can be discussed by open source supporter/evangelists/advocates. I see this similar to discussions about speed limits on freeways. If I don't drive or use a car and if I'm not a government official responsible for traffic, why should I be the main influencer in a discussion about speed limits. Yes, everybody can have an opinion about the GPL/foundation question, and I actually I have one, too. However, I'm not a developer, I'm a manager of any developers and I do not a potential (major) sponsor of something like a foundation. Thus, why should my opinion be very important? Best regards, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Questions around events
I don't like the idea of only a small number of people being able to do PR. However, if could be assured that this small group could actually maintain a high press presence and respond to events quickly (eg. an open letter from Corel on OpenDocument) I would feel more confortable. The number might not have to be small, but I'm not a fan of having everybody talk to the press with mix messages (about the project). I mean everybody is free to talk about their very personal OpenOffice.org activities, but if they talk about projects, features, realease dates, etc. they should use some kind of official message. At the very minimum, people should make very very clear what parts of the message are personal opinions vs. official statements. Unfortunately the press often likes to turn everyting into an official statement. * Important events receive a response within no more than 2 days. * Each week must have at least one press article on OOo. * Any 6-month period must average at least 4 articles on OOo. These are all good ideas, provided that we find enough things to write about. What things would you write about over the next weeks? All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Questions around events
* Articles on using OOo. We have 5 main applications, lots of advanced features, many of which set us appart from the competiton. Surely we can write articles about this. I don't have issues with people explaining OpenOffice.org via articles provided that they are (somewhat) correct. It might be good to establish somekind of review process for these kind of articles, because I have seen too many articles and even books where people explain OpenOffice.org in an incorrect or at least not optimal way. I'm not talking about you, but this has happened a few times. Thus, we might want to establish somekind of review process. Typically those articles don't have to prepared overnight. * Success stories, migrations, case studies, etc. This week I'll be installing 15 Linux thin clients running OOo. Someone can interview me about it. Graham works with schools in New Zealand. Someone could interview him. Do a parthership with the INGOTs and run a few interviews of Ian to make an article with. No offense, but this is PR work for INGOT not OpenOffice.org. Yes OpenOffice.org will most likely benefit, but I don't see this as OpenOffice.org PR. Thus, it should be managed outside of the OpenOffice.org project. * Articles on the OpenDocument Format (ODF). Anything that supports ODF is by necessity good for OOo. Here are sme ideas: - Reports on the state of ISO approval. - Reports on the state of aduption by the European Comission. How much do you know about the EU/EC internals? We should not write about things without having facts, because otherwise we risk loosing credibility. - Guides for format internals. - Articles on why ODF matters (see my article on Groklaw). - When a goverment like Massachusets talks about open formats, we get get a lot of press and discussions. When MA first drew the list of allowed open formats, ODF was nowhere in the map. Today it is, because Gary, I and PJ had a discussion with Eric Kriss. In general, with any kind of article or PR work, I think messages that talk about the larger project should be inline with a pre-defined partyline or get reviewed. People can comment as regular users, but if a speficic title or role is attached (or gets attached by the press) OpenOffice.org project related statements should be in inline with the overall project messaging. Best regards, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
There is a contradiction here. You and Louis and others at Sun have always been saying, 'We need to get more developers...' I'm saying that it's possible they aren't coming for a reason, but you seem afraid to find out why. I'm not afraid, I just want to set the right expectations. Not all comments are equally important. Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
Why then are Sun people connected with the project going around saying constantly that the priority is to increase the number of developers. Somebody does not understand the problem(s)...or there is a big disconnect. There are reasons why it's hard to attract volunteers to this project, coders or other. I'm very interest in the opinions of individual and corporate contributors including those from Novell, Red Hat, and other major companies. I'm personally (not speaking for Sun as a whole!!!) less interested in random opinions from people who will never write a line of code. Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
I said *independent* developers...tofu-eating communists who are not employed or are working for themselves. If they developed code for OpenOffice.org outside of OpenOffice.org and thus showed serious interest in developing for the project, I do care. Otherwise I'm much less interested, because I do not want to throw something away for something which might not really exist. Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
One more comment, many individual developers become corporate developers at some point! Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Why then are Sun people connected with the project going around saying constantly that the priority is to increase the number of developers. Somebody does not understand the problem(s)...or there is a big disconnect. There are reasons why it's hard to attract volunteers to this project, coders or other. I'm very interest in the opinions of individual and corporate contributors including those from Novell, Red Hat, and other major companies. I'm personally (not speaking for Sun as a whole!!!) less interested in random opinions from people who will never write a line of code. Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Questions around events
Daniel, Do you have any new articles drafted? If yes, could these be constructively reviewed somewhere, e.g. on the PR list? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL
So why dont they work with us? Novell has a fork, Red Hat and Ubuntu build on the Novell fork. IBM is working thier own fork under the SISSL and not contributing back. The question must be asked, Do we have bad breath? I think these companies can (and BTW do) speak for themselves. Most issues are already known, but in many cases the solution is not that simple, even if it might appear to be on the surface. The more parties participate, the more ideas, goals, objections, etc. come together. Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Questions around events
I'd love to review them. BTW, do we have anybody here who could review German content coming from me? Erwin Daniel Carrera wrote: Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Daniel, Do you have any new articles drafted? If yes, could these be constructively reviewed somewhere, e.g. on the PR list? Not at the moment, no. Cheers, Daniel. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] FYI: Microsoft Expands Code Sharing
FYI The software giant is offering over 60 government and international organizations the option to view proprietary source code for the latest version of its Office software, including Outlook, Microsoft Word, and Excel. ... Although Microsoft Office remains the most popular business software, analysts say more and more people are paying attention to products like Sun Microsystems Inc.'s StarOffice, based on the open-source OpenOffice program. http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/2250842910 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] article: LinuxWorld 2005 Thursday
Hi all, I just wanted to provide you with some background information from my point of view on this topic. A few weeks ago when someone raised the question about attending LinuxWorld SF, I checked with Sun's desktop group event marketing person if we could/would have an OpenOffice.org pod again. The decision was made to have a much smaller presence at LinuwWorld this year. Therefore, I did not offer any booth space. I did not want to raise expectations that Sun would probably not be able to meet. In addition, at LinuxWorld Boston earlier this year it was impossible to get any volunteers to help with the OpenOffice.org pod on the Sun booth (admitting that there was also an OpenOffice.org booth in the .org pavillion in parallel). I guess, I could have said explicitly on the list that Sun will not have an OpenOffice.org pod at LinuxWorld SF this year. At the same time I could have encouraged people to setup an OpenOffice.org pod in the .org pavillion. BTW, do we still have an official marketing lead for the San Francisco area??? As I said, I should have proactively announced that Sun would not have an OpenOffice.org pod at LinuxWorld SF, but I also have to say that nobody ever asked me if Sun would have an OpenOffice.org pod at LinuxWorld SF. Therefore, I'm a bit surprised about some of the reactions in the press and verbally via people who did go to LinuxWorld SF. What are the next events we have to keep in mind? From a European perspective EuroOSCON in Amsterdam and LinuxWorld Frankfurt come to my mind in addition to the OpenOffice.org Conference in Slovenia. Maybe we need an events calendar on the marketing project pages where we list event ownership for each of the events to make sure that we cover the important ones. Cheers, Erwin Graham Lauder wrote: Deepankar Datta wrote: Hi This is a round up of the linuxworld 2005 expo written by an attendee, with a sort of negative slant on OOo not attending, seen in these choice quotes: But the biggest surprise wasn't who was there, but who wasn't--the OpenOffice.org folks. The bottom line is that not having a booth hurts OpenOffice.org in particular, and the whole Open Source movement in general. The author also goes into Sun's relationship and licencing of OOo, and IBM's own deriviative. An interesting read, and the marketing lessons might be something to think about for the future. Deepankar Unfortunately, he is right It was raised on the list back in May http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=20446 Something flew under the radar here. Are we seeing the beginning of the distancing of SUN from OOo. Or is it simply that we have become so used to Erwin coming onto the list and asking for volunteers, that when he didn't this time we just missed it? Have we become too reliant on SUN people hand feeding us this sort of stuff? Do we need a conference team as part of the marketing project whose responsibility it is to keep the radar up for this sort of thing? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Important upcoming events?
Hi all, Since OpenOffice.org 2.0 should be ready for release in a few weeks, I'd like to get an overview about important upcoming events where we will or would like to present OpenOffice.org. Here are a few that come to my mind (from an obviously European perspective): * OpenOffice.org Conference (OOoCon), Koper, Slovenia September 28-30, 2005 * EuroOSCON, Amsterdam, Netherlands October 17-20, 2005 * LinuxWorld, Frankfurt, Germany November 15-17, 2005 Government and education specific events might also be interesting, e.g.: * http://www.moderner-staat.com (Sorry, it's a German website!) What other events come to your mind that we should track? Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???
Hi all, For OpenOffice.org 1.1 some community members and I created a standard presentation to be used as the basis for any kind of presentation about OpenOffice.org. AFAIK, the presentation even got translated into other languages than English. Three questions: 1.) Do you think it would be useful to have such a set of slides for OpenOffice.org 2.0 as well? 2.) Does it already exist? 3.) I could take a stab at the presentation, but are there any volunteers out there who want to do it or at least want to help with this effort? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] List of active open source and OpenOffice.org bloggers?
Hi all, I'd like to know who is currently actively blogging about open source in general and OpenOffice.org in particular. How up-to-date is the list at http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html? Hopefully some bloggers can help to create some buzz around OpenOffice.org 2.0 around the time when it gets released. OpenSolaris was launched mainly via blogging and it worked pretty well AFAIK. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Promoting OOoCon 2005
Hi all, Soon the agenda for OOoCon 2005 should be online. Once that happens we all need to help promoting OOoCon 2005 in order to attract more attendees. Thus, if you are bloggers, members of other open source teams/ mailing lists or have close connections to popular web sites (e.g. Slashot), please help to promote the event! I will let you know when the agenda is online! Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, flyers, etc. for OpenOffice.org 2.0?
Hi all, We still probably have a few weeks, but I would like to start getting the marketing items for OpenOffice.org 2.0 ready, too. Thus, Do we have all the logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, etc. that we need for OpenOffice.org 2.0? Has everything been posted to http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/? Do we have a set of logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, etc. that follows one design pattern and thus could be our recommended set? What OpenOffice.org 2.0 flyers and feature web pages do we have? Have they been localized yet? I realized that the 2.0 feature overview page has already been translated into a few additional languages: English: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html French: http://fr.openoffice.org/Marketing/nouv2.0.html Korean: http://ko.openoffice.org/newfeatures.html Japanese: http://ja.openoffice.org/www/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Important upcoming events?
there is one, where the German OpenOffice.org team will be present. I don't know if it fits into your important category, but here we go: ;-) * Systems, Munich, Germany October 24th-28th Great! Thanks! Yes, the Systems event is definitely one of the more important ones. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???
I don't know if this model works, but we thought it could be a good idea to have one ready-to-use-presentation, available in different sizes. However, so far, no volunteers have been found. :-( That is what I had in mind too when we created the OpenOffice.org 1.1 standard presentation. Nobody is forced to use all the slides, but also nobody should be forced to create the same set of slides again and again. So far my OpenOffice.org 2.0 presentations have been live demos. Thus, I don't have nice OpenOffice.org 2.0 slides yet, but I think it would be useful to have some. Have your (most likely German) presentations been posted somewhere on OpenOffice.org? If yes, can you send me the links, so that I can take a look at them? May the larger OpenOffice.org community take your work as the basis for an English standard presentation which then can be translated into more languages than German and English? BTW, this is the issue that contains different versions of the old standard presentation: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=15833 Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Important upcoming events?
We will definitely be there, details will follow. Will you be there, too? I'm sorry, I won't, but I will be at EuroOSCON Amsterdam and LinuxWorld Frankfurt. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 messaging ideas
Hi all, A few weeks ago somebody mentioned the word upgrade as a possible messaging theme, which I personally found really interesting. In case people decide to create any t-shirts, cups or posters for OpenOffice.org 2.0, what do you think about the following statements: * Upgrade to data freedom - OpenOffice.org 2.0 * Upgrade to free PDF generation - OpenOffice.org 2.0 * Upgrade to open standards - OpenOffice.org 2.0 * Upgrade to open document exchange - OpenOffice.org 2.0 And some other ideas without the word upgrade: * Office 97 was yesterday, OpenOffice.org 2.0 is today * Did you get your copy of OpenOffice.org 2.0 already? * OpenOffice.org 2.0 - Be in charge of YOUR documents! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 - Don't let others own YOUR data! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 - For a world of freedom and choice! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 - For a world with more than just one office suite! * If you don't know this logo [OpenOffice.org gull wings] you probably wasted money! * I love my office suite! - OpenOffice.org 2.0 * You don't love your office suite anymore? - Get OpenOffice.org 2.0! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 - The passion office! And more contribution/community focussed: * OpenOffice.org - Be part of it! * OpenOffice.org - Where YOU can make a difference! * OpenOffice.org - Don't let others create YOUR office suite! * OpenOffice.org - Be in charge of YOUR office suite! * OpenOffice.org - Hackers wanted! * OpenOffice.org - The other dating forum! * OpenOffice.org - Be connected! * OpenOffice.org - Make friends around the globe! * OpenOffice.org - Passion unleashed! * Extreme Contributing: OpenOffice.org * Do you have friends in all continents? I do! - OpenOffice.org Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Brian Jones: Office XML Formats : New default XML formats in the next version of Office
FYI I guess we need to make some noise!!! Read this: http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2005/06/01/424085.aspx Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo and Java
I guess it should also be somewhere where CD creators/distributors can find it, right? Cheers, Erwin Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: O.k., here is the statement! Where should we put it? You mean besides http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-questions.html#licensing - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo and Java
O.k., here is the statement! Where should we put it? FAQ Question May I add/bundle the Sun Java Runtime Environment to/with a (commercial) distribution of OpenOffice.org? Answer == OpenOffice.org 2.0 uses Java technology to increase its functionality: Java technology is used for wizards and for the database component; its use here does not affect the licensing of either OpenOffice.org or the Java software. The Java Runtime Environment (JRE) may be freely (at no charge) downloaded from http://www.java.com and can be freely (at no charge) distributed with OpenOffice.org via CD or other media as provided in the JRE license (among other things, Sun shall deem the OpenOffice.org software to provide significant Java technology based value add to the JRE as required by the JRE license, and note that the JRE needs to be bundled unmodified with the OpenOffice.org software (including the license contained in the installer)). For more information on Java's licensing, please visit Information on OpenOffice.org's license can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. Thanks, Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: BTW, I'm working on this. Very soon there should be public statement on the OpenOffice.org site. Cheers, Erwin Robert Vojta wrote: Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe we got the OK from Sun to distribute the JRE along with OpenOffice.org because the license says something like you can distribute the JRE along with another application that requires it. License and README file says this: The Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment is intended for software developers and vendors to redistribute with their applications. I think yes too, but I read somewhere that 'major' part of your application should require Java, not a few 'smaller' parts. From my point of view - dependency on Java is growing, we should ask Sun for this and place the answer on the www.openoffice.org site, so anyone, can get the answer quickly. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
