[marketing-dev] Re: problem
OOPS, that CC to the list wasn't intended. Sorry, Peter On 10/15/2011 06:16 PM, Peter Junge wrote: Dear miki z, I'm the moderator of the OOo Marketing Project mailing list. There are two issues with your your concern. Firstly, the Marketing Project mailing list is not the right list to raise user questions. Secondly, you are nor subscribe to that list that´s why it got moderated. Please contact the mailing list us...@openoffice.org. To subscribe to that list, please send a mail (subject and body doesn't matter) to users-subscr...@openoffice.org and follow the instructions of the automated reply. Best regards, Peter On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, miki z wrote: Dear Sirs: On OpenOffice.org Writer I can't find how to put up the icon for text fonts, font size, text body, not even the icon for italics and bold. Looking up in the help section for bold it says: Open context menu - choose *Style - Bold* What does context menu mean? This is completely unintelligible and unhelpful information, and incorrect. In actuality, to do it manually long way one has to click: Format/character/Font/Typeface/Bold -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
Dear Liz, nice hearing from you again and many thanks for your nice wishes. I'm hoping your doing fine as well, especially with the challenge you took not so long ago. Kindest regards, Peter On 07.06.2011 21:31, Elizabeth Matthis wrote: Dear Peter, You have been wonderful as leader in many capacities. Thank you for so much commitment over the years and for your continuing support of OOo. Best wishes for success in your new position! Liz p.s. I know I have been offline much of the time due to my own job issues, but when I caught this note I had to chime in with my thanks after all you have done! --- Peter Jungep...@openoffice.org schrieb am Mo, 6.6.2011: Von: Peter Jungep...@openoffice.org Betreff: [marketing-dev] Resigning as Marketing Project Lead An: dev@marketingdev@marketing.openoffice.org, marconmar...@marketing.openoffice.org Datum: Montag, 6. Juni, 2011 18:07 Uhr Hi everyone, I have to resign as OOo Marketing Project Lead because a new professional engagement I took several weeks ago will not leave me with enough time to appropriately care about my duties. Especially the stony road we're having ahead with the transition of the project to the Apache Software Foundation will require double efforts, hence it seems to be the right moment to make this cut. I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
Hi Louis, Am 07.06.2011 02:27, schrieb Louis Suarez-Potts: On 2011-06-06, at 12:07 , Peter Junge wrote: [...] I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. I'm immensely sorry to see this letter and to see you leave the Project, ... Thanks a lot, but I didn't say I'm leaving the project. ;-) Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Resigning as Marketing Project Lead
Hi everyone, I have to resign as OOo Marketing Project Lead because a new professional engagement I took several weeks ago will not leave me with enough time to appropriately care about my duties. Especially the stony road we're having ahead with the transition of the project to the Apache Software Foundation will require double efforts, hence it seems to be the right moment to make this cut. I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] OpenOffice.org to become an Apache Foundation Incubator Project
Hi anyone, have you already been reading the news today: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm No comments from my side so far, as I found it right before getting to bed. Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: openoffice.ca about to expire
Hi Mike, thanks for the offer. I would doubt (but someone may correct me) that Oracle has interest in that domain. There are several registered trademarks called Open Office, Openoffice etc. on this planet, which have nothing to do with OOo. OOo has the one and only trademark OpenOffice.org, which is registered by Oracle. Hence, openoffice.ca may be a legal pitfall to some extend. Isn't there a Canadian OOo community which might be interested? At least Louis lives in Canada. Best regards, Peter Am 14.05.2011 05:09, schrieb Mike Gifford: Hello, We're wanting to transfer the domain name for openoffice.ca to someone within the OpenOffice, but am really not sure who I should transfer ownership to. I'd rather it not just be part of Oracle, but not sure if there's an alternative. Anyways, would appreciate some thoughts on this. Mike -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
On 12.05.2011 10:01, Andy Brown wrote: Peter Junge wrote: pong On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: ping -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org Is this what we have been reduced to? Maybe that's one of the sad conclusion. A bit more clarity about the future could certainly help ... Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: ping
pong On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: ping -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Interesting News
On 04/22/2011 03:35 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi, Very interesting :) http://blogs.oracle.com/trond/2011/04/openofficeorg_to_become_a_pure.html I read Trond Arne Undheim's blog, who directs Oracle's standards strategy and policy in EMEA. http://blogs.oracle.com/trond/ and http://emeapressoffice.oracle.com/Press-Releases/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOffice-org-to-a-Community-based-Project-1ca9.aspx I read Oracle's press release at EMEA Media Centre. http://emeapressoffice.oracle.com/ :) Can anyone tell me what EMEA is? EMEA is the region Europe, Middle East, Africa that's a similar abbreviation to APAC = Asia Pacific Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: suggestion box? WAS: OOoCon 2010 videos
Hi Joomi Lee, I think we're having three problems here: 1) You want to subscribe to a mailing list, where you can post feature proposal, right? IMHO that would be d...@openoffice.org. Please find informations about our general mailing lists here: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html 2) You want to print a selection, but cannot find the feature. The print dialog of OOo has an option Selection in the print range section. AFAIK it's there ever since, which version are you using? 3) The original topic of this thread has originally been the OOoCon 2010 videos, which you have been replying to raise another concern. We call that hijacking a thread. ;-) TO keep the lucidity of the discussion, please start a new thread whenever you want to start a new discussion. Best regards, Peter On 04/01/2011 12:52 AM, Joomi Lee wrote: My version doesn't do that. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 15:34 -0700, Joomi Lee wrote: How do I subscribe to the suggestion box email list? I think the next version of OpenOffice should allow the user to print a highlighted selection. It does this already. --Jean -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Japan Earthquake: Kazunari Hirano needs our help
OpenOffice.org Community, our long term friend and OOo contributer Kazunari Hirano from Japan lives in Ichinoseki (http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201103/18/84/a0005484_21312387.jpg), which has been heavily shaken by the earthquake on March 11th. Ichinoseki is also located in the direct back-country of the coast areas of Rikuzentakada and Ofunato which have been devastated by the tsunami. Hundred thousands of people lost their homes and are still in need of an appropriate shelter. Now, Kazunari wants to prepare his little school as an emergency accommodation for evacuees. For the details please read: http://openoffice.exblog.jp/12298764/ What Kazunari needs most is money to take care of the expenses for his generous venture. For this reason, we are collecting donations for Kazunari using the channels of Team OpenOffice.org e.V.. You can send money via PayPal, credit card, bank transfer or check. For details please refer: http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html Every donation, that indicates the intended purpose with Earthquake Japan or similar keywords will go directly to Kazunari. *Please help Kazunari to help others!* This is a great opportunity to make donations for Japanese earthquake victims, knowing where the money goes and as well avoiding loss due to administrative expenses as they occur in larger relief organizations. Best regards, Peter (OpenOffice.org Marketing Project) P.S.: Forwarding this call for donations is of course welcome. -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Budget for Hirano
Many thanks for starting this thread. Peter On 03/16/2011 12:41 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I would like to support a donation for Hirano Kazunari, a well known contributor of the OOo JA organization and ex community council member who has served for this community for many years. I just got an email about his condition, even if his city was not on the most dangerous area, he did live close there, and at the moment he is finding himself struggling since his house and the school where he teaches have been very affected by this condition. We at the ES community are starting collecting some money to send him but we already know it won't be enough. I encourage the rest of the OOo community to do the same. I think this is one of the things that no matter the condition we should step up to the situation and help out a brother in need. His blog already have some posts on how to better send him the money. You can find more information at his blog on what is needed under Personal: http://openoffice.exblog.jp/ -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Budget for Hirano
Kazunari-san, I've been reading your blog and now I want to get your recommendation which organization to donate to. Some of the large international relief organizations are not too effective because their rate of administrative expenses is bad. Would be great to know an organization who ensures that the donations reach the victims quick and directly. Best regards, Peter On 03/17/2011 02:03 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi all, I and my families are OK. But very serious situation is going on. Please see my blog. http://openoffice.exblog.jp/ We need your help. Thanks, khirano PS: I have to go out now and make a long line to get gas and fuel for my heater and my car. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi Alexandro, Thanks for posting this. I got no reply from khirano by mail. Well, let's say that in all the mess and tragedy, it is relative good news from him at least. Feeling sad, Cor Alexandro Colorado wrote (16-03-11 05:41) Hi I would like to support a donation for Hirano Kazunari, a well known contributor of the OOo JA organization and ex community council member who has served for this community for many years. I just got an email about his condition, even if his city was not on the most dangerous area, he did live close there, and at the moment he is finding himself struggling since his house and the school where he teaches have been very affected by this condition. We at the ES community are starting collecting some money to send him but we already know it won't be enough. I encourage the rest of the OOo community to do the same. I think this is one of the things that no matter the condition we should step up to the situation and help out a brother in need. His blog already have some posts on how to better send him the money. You can find more information at his blog on what is needed under Personal: http://openoffice.exblog.jp/ -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Digest for list dev
Hi, it's hard to tell, if I cannot look at the complete mail. Can you please forward it as a private mail to me (p...@openoffice.org). Best regards, Peter On 03/12/2011 02:26 AM, sap...@yahoo.com wrote: This email came through to me empty but with 3 attachments that I did not open. What is up with that? /Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless - //http://atlantacloudtech. http://atlantacloudtech.com//com http://atlantacloudtech.com/ -Original message- *From: *dev-requ...@marketing.openoffice.org* To: *dev@marketing.openoffice.org* Sent: *Fri, Mar 11, 2011 18:04:11 GMT+00:00* Subject: *Digest for list dev -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Download statistics
Hi Leif, On 03/06/2011 05:18 AM, leif wrote: Hi Peter, The statistics are (as far as I know) not a part of the project but a service provided by good-day net. In Budapest I spoke with one of the representatives from good-day net but he didn't know anything about this service. I think the easiest way to solve the problem would be to install the service in a server controlled by you. The scripts are available under GPL, hence I'm optimistic, that we will be able to host the service within OOo sooner or later: https://github.com/Sixeight/bouncer I'm really sad now, that I had missed the talk. The visualization of the MS FUD against OOo downloads is brilliant. Thanks for providing the presentation file. Best regards, Peter I spoke with John McCreesh about it at the time (long before Budapest) Cheers, Leif Den 05-03-2011 05:23, Peter Junge skrev: Hi Leif, On 03/05/2011 02:43 AM, leif wrote: H, I have been shouting about this problem for about a year and a half. Is there an issue? ID? If yes, to whom is it assigned? The problem is that no one at good-day net seems to know anything about this service. Believe me - I have tried. All it takes is to make a new site. OK, thanks for the information. I guess I have to find someone else who can fix it then. I even performed a presentation on this issue on the OOo conference in Budapest. Quite a few spectators but none had the guts to pick it up. Unfortunately I missed it. Can you please send me the presentation file? I'd like to review it, but do not have it on the OOoCon website yet: http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/267 Best regards, Peter /Leif Lodahl Den 04-03-2011 05:18, Peter Junge skrev: Hi, the tool that I've been using for querying download statistics http://ooopackages.good-day.net/mirrorbrain/query_chart.rb so far seems to be broken. Not sure if this is related to the migration or happened earlier. Is there any other way to get download informations? Related issue has already been filed: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117197 Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: where do I mail a donation check for OpenOffice software?
Dear Joomi, thanks a lot for considering to support OpenOffice.org. You can find information about making donations --including US checks-- here: http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html Best regards, Peter On 03/05/2011 05:20 AM, Joomi Lee wrote: Hi, I do not want to donate online using PayPal. I want to mail a check. Does anyone know what address I can mail my check to? I live in California. Thanks, Joomi Lee On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:43 AM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com mailto:leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: H, I have been shouting about this problem for about a year and a half. The problem is that no one at good-day net seems to know anything about this service. Believe me - I have tried. All it takes is to make a new site. I even performed a presentation on this issue on the OOo conference in Budapest. Quite a few spectators but none had the guts to pick it up. /Leif Lodahl Den 04-03-2011 05:18, Peter Junge skrev: Hi, the tool that I've been using for querying download statistics http://ooopackages.good-day.net/mirrorbrain/query_chart.rb so far seems to be broken. Not sure if this is related to the migration or happened earlier. Is there any other way to get download informations? Related issue has already been filed: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117197 Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Download statistics
Hi Leif, On 03/05/2011 02:43 AM, leif wrote: H, I have been shouting about this problem for about a year and a half. Is there an issue? ID? If yes, to whom is it assigned? The problem is that no one at good-day net seems to know anything about this service. Believe me - I have tried. All it takes is to make a new site. OK, thanks for the information. I guess I have to find someone else who can fix it then. I even performed a presentation on this issue on the OOo conference in Budapest. Quite a few spectators but none had the guts to pick it up. Unfortunately I missed it. Can you please send me the presentation file? I'd like to review it, but do not have it on the OOoCon website yet: http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/267 Best regards, Peter /Leif Lodahl Den 04-03-2011 05:18, Peter Junge skrev: Hi, the tool that I've been using for querying download statistics http://ooopackages.good-day.net/mirrorbrain/query_chart.rb so far seems to be broken. Not sure if this is related to the migration or happened earlier. Is there any other way to get download informations? Related issue has already been filed: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117197 Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Download statistics
Hi, the tool that I've been using for querying download statistics http://ooopackages.good-day.net/mirrorbrain/query_chart.rb so far seems to be broken. Not sure if this is related to the migration or happened earlier. Is there any other way to get download informations? Related issue has already been filed: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117197 Best regards, Peter -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: [marketing] Someone needs to look into this
Hi Andy, Office Suite 2010 seems to be a OOo distribution produced by a company called Valusoft (http://www.valusoft.com/). they are selling it e.g. at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/ValuSoft-73198-Valusoft-Office-Suite/dp/B002ALTRDS Valusoft also offers rudimentary support: http://www.valusoftsupport.com/Results.asp?search=fullshow=titlesresults=20submit=prodpid=578 I cannot see, that they are redirecting their users into our direction from there. Would be interesting to find out how they end on our mailing lists. In similar cases I have been contacting the users privately about 5 or 6 times. So far they did never cooperate. Maybe they think I'm a friendly guy who wants to push them towards a second pit fall. Best regards, Peter On 02/21/2011 05:16 AM, Andy Brown wrote: From the users list archive: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=210035 Seems that a company is selling a version of OOo and sending users to the OOo users mailing list for problems. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
Re: [marketing] EducOOo donated code for ARM Linux port
Hi Eric, On 02/19/2011 03:41 PM, eric b wrote: Hi, For your information : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=117017 Linux ARM is extremely promising for the future, and imho it worth to improve it asap. Thanks a lot. It's great to see EducOOo as a contributer to the ARM port. One general note about the discussion that had emerged in the following. Interpreting Eric's subject line can range from a single line of code to the whole ARM port, if interpretation comes deliberately without considering the context. Please, a majority of contributers on this list are not native speakers of English, which always poses the risk of ambiguity. This happens to almost everyone now and again. I'm happy to see, that the issue has been resolved in a calm discussion on IRC. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] EUSPRIG - Interesting event to have a presence
Hi Alexandro, On 02/18/2011 05:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This is an interesting event that OOo could play a big roll and participation on the future of spreadsheets. http://www.eusprig.org/annual-conference.htm thanks for pointing this out. I have been briefly reading through some of the articles and the scope of that conference seems to be fundamental research about what can go wrong while using spreadsheets, residing somewhere between user experience and development. While I agree, that it's really interesting for OOo to participate, I doubt that the Marketing Project is an adequate realm. What do you think? best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] EUSPRIG - Interesting event to have a presence
On 02/19/2011 12:59 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org mailto:p...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi Alexandro, On 02/18/2011 05:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This is an interesting event that OOo could play a big roll and participation on the future of spreadsheets. http://www.eusprig.org/annual-conference.htm thanks for pointing this out. I have been briefly reading through some of the articles and the scope of that conference seems to be fundamental research about what can go wrong while using spreadsheets, residing somewhere between user experience and development. While I agree, that it's really interesting for OOo to participate, I doubt that the Marketing Project is an adequate realm. What do you think? My idea was to do the internal communication to the calc team. this was a tweet from the event's account to our OOo account. I just forward it to this project because we will probably need to travel fund someone @ sc.OOo OK, I get it now. AFAIK there's also a developer budget, but we can figure that out as funding requests arise. Peter best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates....
So, you are stepping into independence without becoming libre? ;-) (SCNR this pun!) Good luck, Peter On 02/11/2011 09:58 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: All, I've left Oracle but continue to be involved in the management and leadership of OpenOffice.org and continue to promote the adoption and interoperability of the OpenDocument Format, or ODF. The most immediate and obvious change in my new status is of course that I can no longer receive mail to my (former) Oracle alias; please be so good as to send mail to louis[at]openoffice.org. As well, it also means that I will be able to focus more on Marketing and regional development, as well as engaging all the distributed efforts forming the growing OOo and ODF ecosystems. And it also means that, as always, I remain attentive to what you need, want, desire, wish for, and will try my best to communicate those desires to whomever must hear them. Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Chair, Community Council Co-Lead, Marketing (and several other) Lead, Native Language Confederation (and others) and for now, Community Manager OpenOffice.org Blog: http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Document Freedom Day annoucement
On 02/03/2011 07:13 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Just got the PR annoucment of this year Document Freedom Day, something that I think is important to get involved. http://jza.posterous.com/document-freedom-day-is-on# Hi Alexandro, thanks for sharing. As the DFD (http://documentfreedom.org/2011/index.en.html) is an event that primarily addresses communities on localtion, I would ask the NLCs (I'm cross-posting) to also share their activities and subsequently we shall work on coordinating these efforts. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Press tracking
On 01/30/2011 12:59 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: wonder how many papers and articles have published the OOo release and if we can spot any results from the PR release. I do not have too much time at the moment as I'm working on OOo's CeBIT presence and a couple of other things. I briefly tried to query Google news. Searching for the exact headline of the press announcement, returns a couple of results, but they do not seem to be too significant. Using search strings like openoffice 3.3 release does not really help as it returns widely identical results to libreoffice 3.3 release, as articles about the OOo release always mention LO and vice versa. To get a better picture, it would require to brief read a coupe of these articles. Anyone tried so far? Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Press tracking
The mailing list owner already had this idea! ;-) Peter On 01/30/2011 04:40 PM, Varun Mittal wrote: I request the mailing list owners to kindly remove this person from the mailing list for spamming the list Regards Varun Mittal http://www.varunmittal.info Google https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mittal.varun LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/varunmittal87 Twitterhttp://twitter.com/varunmittal19 Uncertainty is the only Certainty of LIFE 2011/1/30 Erhan Alkan ecollect...@live.de Guten Tag. Hören Sie auf mit dem Psychoterror. Meine Daten: Erhan AlkanBeethovenstr. 963179 Obertshausen Neues E-Mail-Account: chesspla...@web.de Geben Sie diese wichtige Information zu Ihrem eigenen Interesse an alle Beteiligten weiter. Beschwerden werden solange kommen bis die Fehler korrigiert sind. Diese Beschwerde war Rechtskräftig. Erhan Alkan called Ed WORLDWIDE and Tiger from Sumatra is protectEd VERY HARD. Vermeiden Sie Bitte Uneinsichtigkeit. §. Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:59:40 -0600 From: j...@openoffice.org To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: [marketing] Press tracking wonder how many papers and articles have published the OOo release and if we can spot any results from the PR release. Regards. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Japanese Language Project sets up additional user support channel
Hi Kazunari, this is great news, that japanese OOo users are getting another community support channel. All the best for the Year of the Rabbit (my sign), :-) Peter On 01/29/2011 04:38 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi all, On Jan. 28th OpenOffice.org Japanese Language Project announced that it set up users at ja.openoffice.org http://ja.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=408 Users at Ja.OpenOffice.org is a mailing list where Japanese OpenOffice.org users can share their knowledge and help each other. http://ja.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=users http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/Marketing/OpenOffice.org_Deployments As this list shows, various kind of users, enterprises users and local governments users are increasing, we see that user support has become more important and we need to prepare additional channel where user can easily question and get answers. If you like forum, you go to the community forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/ja/forum/ If you like mailing list, now you can go to the users mailing list. http://ja.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=1 my blog post: http://openoffice.exblog.jp/12009255/ Thanks, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Domain Registration Notice For openoffice
Hi Simon, On 01/18/2011 08:58 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Hi, Please have a look at http://www.joewein.net/blog/2008/12/08/domain-registration-scam-in-china/ Indeed it's a scam. Thanks for pointing this out. If registration of those names is considered of importance then I would suggest to try registering them with the usual registrar instead. Will check how this can be done. Best regards, Peter Ian Ge schreef: (It's very urgent, Please transfer this email to your CEO or appropriate person, Thanks) Dear CEO/Principal, This is Ian Ge---Senior Consultant of domain name registration and solution center in china. have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on January 18, 2011, one company which self-styled Evay Investment Corp were applying to register openoffice as Network Brand and following domain names: openoffice.com.hk openoffice.org.cn After our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company's, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 7 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. Out of the time limit we will unconditionally finish the registration for Evay Investment Corp. Best Regards, Ian Ge Tel: +86-551-5223-174 || Fax: +86-551-5223-175 10/F,Jindi International Building,No.588 MaAnshan South Road,Baohe District,Heifei,China. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Fwd: resign as OpenOffice.org Marketing Contact in Spain
Dear Ismael, I'm very sorry to hear that and wish you all the best for the future. Thanks a lot for your contributions to OpenOffice.org. We will certainly miss you. Best regards, Peter On 01/05/2011 10:08 PM, Ismael Fanlo wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Ismael Fanlo Date: 2011/1/5 Subject: resign as OpenOffice.org Marketing Contact in Spain To: mar...@marketing.openoffice.org Hello to everyone, A year ago I became Marketing Contact for Spain with my intention of intensively promoting our software in the business field, but various circumstances have prevented me from carrying out this task with the necessary dedication. Recent events, as the creation of The Document Foundation and LibreOffice, puts me in a somewhat uncomfortable situation, because although I'm still supporting OpenOffice.org I also consideer supporting LibreOffice adoption, as well as any other variant of OpenOffice.org. From my point of view as a trainer and supporter of OpenOffice.org I see no incompatibility (at least so far) between the two projects. I think that this may cause a conflict of interest from my part, so I believe that the best decision I can make is to resign as OpenOffice.org Marketing Contact in Spain to enjoy the independence that allows me to promote both, OOo, LibO, as well as the oooES project leaded by members of the OpenOffice.org Spanish language community. Consequently, please give me low on the list of marketing contacts: http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html. Thanks. I leave with deep pleasure for allowing me collaborating on this project, and with my best wishes for the success of the free software, especially for the OpenOffice.org porject and all its derivatives. Regards, -- Ismael Fanlo *ifanlo - soluciones libres* http://ifanlo.com - Consultoría en migraciones a software libre - Soporte ofimático online - E-learning - Formación informática presencial - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] stickers banners
Dear Qasim, for the OOo Marketing Project, I have to say I'm sorry that I cannot help you with your concern, but we do not have any stickers available at the moment. I hope some other projects can help out. Best regards, Peter On 01/06/2011 03:07 AM, Qasim Saeed` wrote: hi there, we have a class of students who run your software on a daily basis we are proud of it therefore i was wondering if you could send me some small sized open office logo stickers? many thanks Qasim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Goals for OOo
Hello Johannes, On 01/01/2011 06:23 AM, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote: Hello, I don't know is this an english speaking list or not. It's indeed an English list. I'm looking for the goals of OOo. All I've found is from 2004 (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan#Goals). Are there newer goals, or is a discussion on the way about future goals and strategies for OOo? We have been kicking-off the work on the new SMP at the OOoCon in Budapest. Unfortunately, the session was badly prepared by me and Florian, as we had many other things to do related to the event. In the following Florian quit and I had a couple of unforeseen personal obstacles, hence the progress had stuck. We'll continue soon. Where can I find such Information? Some initial information are at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan_2010 If you are subscribed to this list, you should be able to follow further progress. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [Fwd: Re: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9]
Hi Ramon, Ramon Sole wrote: Hello Peter, BTW, you cc'd d...@es.openoffice.org on your message, but I can't find any message about that thread in the archives of that list. AFAIK, messages are getting only archived when they have been send TO, but not as CC. I'm currently working myself through the ES mailing lists archives --which are *not* visible at [1] as they should-- with the help of Google Translate and it seems like there are interesting things to learn. So I'm not sure if anyone in d...@es.openoffice.org received your message. I guess they should be receiving my messages. Best regards, Peter [1] http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html Best Regards, Ramon Original Message Subject: Re: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:44:50 +0100 From: Ramon Sole ramon.s...@opscons.com To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org CC: mar...@marketing.openoffice.org, d...@es.openoffice.org, discuss...@es.openoffice.org References: 4d0e8d6b.7090...@openoffice.org Hello Peter, Alexandro is one of the main sponsors of oooES. Threre was a lot of discussion and disagreement in the Spanish list about the promotion of the oooES project, privately held by a few people, as an alternative to OOo, as the promotion has been done inside of OOo itself. There has not been any consensus in the Spanish Community about how the Spanish site has been managed. On the contrary, a bitter discussion has been started about the attempt to migrate OOo users to the oooES site and the way the lists have been used to try to get that. If anyone browses the discuss Spanish list recent archives he will find lots of messages claiming for a conflict of interests with Alexandro and other Southamerican regional marcom leaders because of the oooES site and their involvement in TDF. I essentially agree your POV and I'm sure many other people who doesn't read the English lists would too. Best Regards, Ramon --- Hola Peter, Alexandro es uno de los promotores principales de oooES. Ha habido mucha discusión y desacuerdo en las lista españolas sobre la promoción del proyecto oooES, bajo el control de unas pocas personas, como una alternativa a OOo, dado que la promoción se ha realizado internamente desde OOo. No ha habido consenso en la conunidad española sobre como se ha manejado el sitio español. Al contrario, se ha abierto una discusión bastante agria sobre el intento de mover los usuarios de OOo al sitio oooES y la forma como se han utilizado las listas para probar de conseguirlo. Cualquiera que hojee los archivos recientes de la lista de discuss en español encantrará muchos mensajes quejándose por un conflicto de intereses por parte de Alexandro y otros marcom lideres de regiones sudamericanas por el caso del sitio oooES y su involucración con TDF. Yo estoy esencialmente de acuerdo con tu punto de vista y estoy seguro de que muchas otras personas que no leen las listas en inglés también lo estarían. Un saludo, Ramon --- Peter Junge wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedAlexandro The problem I have with oooES is that it seems to build a parallel universe to OOo. As I said before, the oooES project (I assume you are one of the persons in charge) is using the mailing list page of the ES project to detour users, while the native mailing lists are blanked out although they are still active. ... My concern is, that you seem to leave OOo to do your own thing with OOoES. Hence, what would be the interest of OOo to be funding you? ... Would be great if others could comment on this, especially those from the ES project. Of course, my POV may be wrong as I'm only taking an outside view. Maybe it's not apparent, but the Marketing Project is insofar concerned and an auditor --not for the NLCs, but for e.g. you-- as travel funding are coming from the Marketing budget. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I want to ask the budget commitee for 500 dls for expenses to SCALEx9. I want to put the petition even if SCALE still have not finished the CFP. I submitted a couple of talks and I am still waiting for the final approval. However budget processes have been a bit slow lately so I want to put an early petition here. maybe the processes are slow because you are sending your request recurrently to the wrong address. AFAIR, Florian had mentioned this many times. A budget request has to raised with the budget custodian, which is currently me. Mailing lists are welcome to be CCed, but it's not mandatory. Last year I participated with a lightning talk on OOo4Kids which you can watch here: http://jza.blip.tv/file/3261755/ After the talk I got to talk with the core organizers which were interested into expanding the participation for communities such as OOo in the US. And geared me to participate next year with a wider talk about OOo/ODF etc. This year I am giving a talk on ODF with an OpenGovernment angle, targeting the success stories gather from South America and Europe. If we fund you to attend the SCALEx9, we have to make sure that you are still with OOo. I had a look at the ES project at the OOo website and I have to say, that there are a couple of issues puzzling me, hence I want to raise some concerns: Firstly, the design of http://es.openoffice.org/ is not as it should be with OOo. Usually one finds the main project links such as member list, mailing lists etc., but they are hidden. They only becoming visible after moving on to Conoce OOo or Servicios. Being there, I have been having a look at Comunidad::Listas de Correos and got really irritated. (http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html) The OOo mailing lists have apparently been dropped in preference of other mailing lists hosted as http://oooes.org/. I'm not in favor for such a solution, but it might still be a agreement of the community. However, the worst problem for me is, that the OOo mailing list archives are not reachable from this point. IMHO, that's totally inappropriate. Even more confusing is, that the d...@es mailing list still seems to have significant traffic, see: http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev Can you please comment my above observations. Secondly, I have been visiting http://oooes.org/ then. It promotes both OOo and LibreOffice, which many here see as a competing product and community. So, if you are going to attend the SCALEx9 on behalf and the expenses of OOo, will yo exclusively promote OOo or will you promote the whole ecosystem? The flow chart (http://oooes.org/images/interacciones-oooes.png) on the main page looks a bit like OOoES is closer tight to the TDF and LibO, rather than OOo. (BTW, the way OOoES is using the new OOo logo is IMHO against the guidelines.) $500 would allow me to partially pay for my travel expenses. I would still need to chip from my own money to pay for hotel. Please comment on the above concerns before we proceed. I am not sure, this is a oooES issue at all, nor was intervention at SCALE last year. There is no business for the spanish NLC in the US. The problem I have with oooES is that it seems to build a parallel universe to OOo. As I said before, the oooES project (I assume you are one of the persons in charge) is using the mailing list page of the ES project to detour users, while the native mailing lists are blanked out although they are still active. Last year I was promoting the projects of the Education Project, being ooo4kids. This year it will be a more technical approach than last year -- hopefully. I dont think I ever pushed ES NLC as you might see on the discussion from last year budget request between Cor and myself nor on the video from the talk. So to answer your question, I probably won't be pushing the spanish NLC at any point of the conference. My concern is, that you seem to leave OOo to do your own thing with OOoES. Hence, what would be the interest of OOo to be funding you? Would be great if others could comment on this, especially those from the ES project. Of course, my POV may be wrong as I'm only taking an outside view. About the changes that you see, well most of them have been taken from a community consensus on what is best for the contributors. I am not sure if this concerns marketing project, since I really never seen the marketing project as an auditor for what NLC groups do or dont do. I am confused, can you please explain? Maybe it's not apparent, but the Marketing Project is insofar concerned and an auditor --not for the NLCs, but for e.g. you-- as travel funding are coming from the Marketing budget. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I want to ask the budget commitee for 500 dls for expenses to SCALEx9. I want to put the petition even if SCALE still have not finished the CFP. I submitted a couple of talks and I am still waiting for the final approval. However budget processes have been a bit slow lately so I want to put an early petition here. maybe the processes are slow because you are sending your request recurrently to the wrong address. AFAIR, Florian had mentioned this many times. A budget request has to raised with the budget custodian, which is currently me. Mailing lists are welcome to be CCed, but it's not mandatory. Last year I participated with a lightning talk on OOo4Kids which you can watch here: http://jza.blip.tv/file/3261755/ After the talk I got to talk with the core organizers which were interested into expanding the participation for communities such as OOo in the US. And geared me to participate next year with a wider talk about OOo/ODF etc. This year I am giving a talk on ODF with an OpenGovernment angle, targeting the success stories gather from South America and Europe. If we fund you to attend the SCALEx9, we have to make sure that you are still with OOo. I had a look at the ES project at the OOo website and I have to say, that there are a couple of issues puzzling me, hence I want to raise some concerns: Firstly, the design of http://es.openoffice.org/ is not as it should be with OOo. Usually one finds the main project links such as member list, mailing lists etc., but they are hidden. They only becoming visible after moving on to Conoce OOo or Servicios. Being there, I have been having a look at Comunidad::Listas de Correos and got really irritated. (http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html) The OOo mailing lists have apparently been dropped in preference of other mailing lists hosted as http://oooes.org/. I'm not in favor for such a solution, but it might still be a agreement of the community. However, the worst problem for me is, that the OOo mailing list archives are not reachable from this point. IMHO, that's totally inappropriate. Even more confusing is, that the d...@es mailing list still seems to have significant traffic, see: http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev Can you please comment my above observations. Secondly, I have been visiting http://oooes.org/ then. It promotes both OOo and LibreOffice, which many here see as a competing product and community. So, if you are going to attend the SCALEx9 on behalf and the expenses of OOo, will yo exclusively promote OOo or will you promote the whole ecosystem? The flow chart (http://oooes.org/images/interacciones-oooes.png) on the main page looks a bit like OOoES is closer tight to the TDF and LibO, rather than OOo. (BTW, the way OOoES is using the new OOo logo is IMHO against the guidelines.) $500 would allow me to partially pay for my travel expenses. I would still need to chip from my own money to pay for hotel. Please comment on the above concerns before we proceed. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] T-shirts
Dear Shannon, Shannon Caston wrote: Hi. Do you have any t-shirts left? I would like to buy one. I love open office and will tell everyone about it! OOo doesn't have any own online shop, but there are a fair number of offerings on the web. Try to google OpenOffice.org t-shirt and I'm sure you will find what you are looking for. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] mobile office
Dear Mr. Krause, there is no mobile version of OOo yet, but there are other implementations of OpenDocument Format (ODF), e.g. Maemo FreOffice. The developers have been attending a interoperability demo earlier this year at the OOoCon 2010 in Budapest: http://opendocument.xml.org/news/oasis-interop-at-ooocon-features-eight-odf-12-implementations Best regards, Peter Georg Krause wrote: Dear ladies and gentlemen , please tell me more about a mobile openoffice version for maemo, android or maybe for mobile 7. Thanks for a quick answer. With best regards Georg Krause - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Strategic Marketing Plan Call
Hi Rosana, *, sorry for the delayed response to the whole thread. Unfortunately I had to return to Germany earlier this week due to urgent family affairs. As I will be almost unavailable for one or two more weeks, I have been asking Louis to continuing acting as Marketing Project lead. Best regards, Peter Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi Peter, Let's get the people interested in creating the SMP together and discuss how we can move forward. Could you ping the marcons and see who wants to get started? I underdstand that most of the people that were in Budapest might not have enough time to collaborate here, but maybe there's also others that would like to work on the SMP and weren't in Budapest. So for anyone interested, just let us know and let's get together. Regards, Rosana Peter Junge wrote: Hi Rosana, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi, I think that this is actually a good discussion for a conference call. I would like to see some progress in the Strategic Marketing Plan. Also because that will help the branding guidelines to move forward. Most attendees of the SMP workshop in Budapest are with the TDF/LibO now, hence likely unavailable. I'm estimating the effort to work on a new SMP with three to six man-months in total, hence it would require to have a fair number of contributers. Who would like to discuss this in a call? Yes, first topics to discuss would be recruiting contributers and setting up a team. Best regards, Peter On 11/13/10 18:12, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:26:41 -0600, Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Will there be any call conference this month for the marketing team? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls you likely have been noticing, that the founding of the TDF has significantly reduced contributers to the MP. As well, I have been posting a couple of weeks ago, that I'm more or less on sick leave as I had an injury with my left hand, consequently I can only use the right one (fortunately I'm right-handed) to type. Hence, the page you are referring too has the following note on top: The next Marketing ConfCall is deferred to an yet unknown point in time, due to staffing problems of the Marketing Project The splint I'm wearing at the moment is hopefully removed next Tuesday, hence I'm hoping to be able to work fully again on Wednesday. Looking at the schedule there hasn't been any proposed date for it. AFAIK there were some work being addressed on the Strategic Marketing Plan and updates happening on the branding and tech events. So, before thinking about ambitious projects like the SMP, I would like to do things in the right order. First of all, I want to find out, how many active contributers we still have for the MP. If we find out, there are still enough, we can resume with the conference calls again. Before the TDF has happened, I already had an discussion with Florian, that it needs more than two continually contributing persons to successfully drive the MP. There's indeed a significant basic load in administrative work to manage. My idea was --and Florian agreed-- to reorganize the MP completely. Rather than continuing the (for the MP) insufficient concept of lead and co-lead, it would IMHO be better to refine responsibilities in order to be able to assign clearly defined topical fields to several people. I'm thinking about categories like press officer, standards, education, events, branding, website maintenance etc. If we can manage to set-up such team we should also be well prepared to work on the SMP. Best regards, Peter Ok Thanks for the info, hope you can get well soon. I am not sure about this multiple titles disemination, but then again would be interesting to watch. Maybe it works. -- http://www.oracle.com/ Rosana Ardila Biela | Marketing Manager Phone: +49 (0)40 23 646 722 Oracle Office ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h
Re: [marketing] Strategic Marketing Plan Call
Hi Rosana, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi, I think that this is actually a good discussion for a conference call. I would like to see some progress in the Strategic Marketing Plan. Also because that will help the branding guidelines to move forward. Most attendees of the SMP workshop in Budapest are with the TDF/LibO now, hence likely unavailable. I'm estimating the effort to work on a new SMP with three to six man-months in total, hence it would require to have a fair number of contributers. Who would like to discuss this in a call? Yes, first topics to discuss would be recruiting contributers and setting up a team. Best regards, Peter On 11/13/10 18:12, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:26:41 -0600, Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Will there be any call conference this month for the marketing team? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls you likely have been noticing, that the founding of the TDF has significantly reduced contributers to the MP. As well, I have been posting a couple of weeks ago, that I'm more or less on sick leave as I had an injury with my left hand, consequently I can only use the right one (fortunately I'm right-handed) to type. Hence, the page you are referring too has the following note on top: The next Marketing ConfCall is deferred to an yet unknown point in time, due to staffing problems of the Marketing Project The splint I'm wearing at the moment is hopefully removed next Tuesday, hence I'm hoping to be able to work fully again on Wednesday. Looking at the schedule there hasn't been any proposed date for it. AFAIK there were some work being addressed on the Strategic Marketing Plan and updates happening on the branding and tech events. So, before thinking about ambitious projects like the SMP, I would like to do things in the right order. First of all, I want to find out, how many active contributers we still have for the MP. If we find out, there are still enough, we can resume with the conference calls again. Before the TDF has happened, I already had an discussion with Florian, that it needs more than two continually contributing persons to successfully drive the MP. There's indeed a significant basic load in administrative work to manage. My idea was --and Florian agreed-- to reorganize the MP completely. Rather than continuing the (for the MP) insufficient concept of lead and co-lead, it would IMHO be better to refine responsibilities in order to be able to assign clearly defined topical fields to several people. I'm thinking about categories like press officer, standards, education, events, branding, website maintenance etc. If we can manage to set-up such team we should also be well prepared to work on the SMP. Best regards, Peter Ok Thanks for the info, hope you can get well soon. I am not sure about this multiple titles disemination, but then again would be interesting to watch. Maybe it works. -- http://www.oracle.com/ Rosana Ardila Biela | Marketing Manager Phone: +49 (0)40 23 646 722 Oracle Office ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi everyone, Peter Junge wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? +1 Cor +1 I would like to revoke my approval until accusations brought up against Alexandro by a member of the OOoES community have been clarified, please refer: http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=9347 Alexandro, can you please comment ASAP. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
Thanks a lot! :-) Szakál Péter wrote: Best wishes Peter!! Peter -- Szakál Péter Open SKM Agency Kft. 1024 Budapest, Kút u. 5 www.openskm.com szakal.pe...@openskm.com (+36-1)-788-6556 - Original Message - From: Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org To: mar...@marketing.openoffice.org Cc: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:30:14 AM Subject: [marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Hi Florian, everyone, I will not be able to take the role as Acting OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. Unfortunately, I have been injuring one of my fingers recently and will have an operation by tomorrow morning. Consequently, I will be on a sick leave for several weeks, as I will be strongly handicapped to write e-mails etc. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members, Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts, Dear Community Members, all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement, and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but, most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately, announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for marketing and press during this time. To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time. As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built up during the past decade, and will shape during the next. I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
Thanks a lot! Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Peter, all the best ... and please, get well soon! Christoph Am Mittwoch, den 13.10.2010, 10:57 +0200 schrieb Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai: I hope you will recover soon! All the best! KAMI 2010-10-13 10:30 keltezéssel, Peter Junge írta: Hi Florian, everyone, I will not be able to take the role as Acting OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. Unfortunately, I have been injuring one of my fingers recently and will have an operation by tomorrow morning. Consequently, I will be on a sick leave for several weeks, as I will be strongly handicapped to write e-mails etc. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members, Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts, Dear Community Members, all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement, and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but, most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately, announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for marketing and press during this time. To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time. As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built up during the past decade, and will shape during the next. I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- KAMI911Best regards, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai | 神 | kami911 [at] gmail [dot] com My favorite projects: OxygenOffice Professional - office suite - for everybody | Magyarul - In Hungarian Blog | Support Follow me, if you can - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
Thanks a lot! Peter Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote: I hope you will recover soon! All the best! KAMI 2010-10-13 10:30 keltezéssel, Peter Junge írta: Hi Florian, everyone, I will not be able to take the role as Acting OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. Unfortunately, I have been injuring one of my fingers recently and will have an operation by tomorrow morning. Consequently, I will be on a sick leave for several weeks, as I will be strongly handicapped to write e-mails etc. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members, Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts, Dear Community Members, all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement, and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but, most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately, announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for marketing and press during this time. To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time. As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built up during the past decade, and will shape during the next. I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- KAMI911Best regards, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai | 神 | kami911 [at] gmail [dot] com My favorite projects: OxygenOffice Professional http://ooop.sf.net/ - office suite - for everybody | Magyarul http://hun.sf.net/ - In Hungarian Blog http://bit.ly/10ucTR | Support http://bit.ly/eYZO6 Follow me http://bit.ly/gJuJZ, if you can http://bit.ly/kDocB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
Graham Lauder wrote: On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 21:30:14 Peter Junge wrote: Hi Florian, everyone, I will not be able to take the role as Acting OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. Unfortunately, I have been injuring one of my fingers recently and will have an operation by tomorrow morning. Consequently, I will be on a sick leave for several weeks, as I will be strongly handicapped to write e-mails etc. Best regards, Peter What? Peter, no email ok that's a stressor, :) We'll miss your words of wisdom, I'll resist the temptation to send any mails requiring long involved replies. Only those with +1 or -1 replies. :) +1 ;-) Cheers GL Florian Effenberger wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members, Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts, Dear Community Members, all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement, and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but, most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately, announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for marketing and press during this time. To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time. As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built up during the past decade, and will shape during the next. I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] When disaster strikes :-( - WAS: [marcon] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
Hi Florian, everyone, I will not be able to take the role as Acting OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. Unfortunately, I have been injuring one of my fingers recently and will have an operation by tomorrow morning. Consequently, I will be on a sick leave for several weeks, as I will be strongly handicapped to write e-mails etc. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members, Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts, Dear Community Members, all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement, and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but, most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead. In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately, announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for marketing and press during this time. To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time. As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built up during the past decade, and will shape during the next. I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? +1 Cor +1 Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget Request - OOo 10th Birthday Party in Beijing
Hi Florian, Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote (05-10-10 13:34) Hi Florian, despite times of troubles, I'm planning to throw a party for OOo's 10th birthday as part of the monthly meeting of the Beijing Linux User Group Great initiative :-) on October 12th. Accordingly, I would like to request a subsidy of up to 150 Euro on the expenses of the OOo Marketing Project budget to support this little event. +1 Cor (too fast, sorry Florian ;-) ) as Florian also accepted this request, I think I will be able to go ahead the OOo birthday party tomorrow. Yes? How to proceed? Just spending the money and sending in the invoice for reimbursement? Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget Request - OOo 10th Birthday Party in Beijing
Hi Florian, as you have not been quitting the role of the Marketing Project Lead, it's still you who is responsible for the MP budget. Of course we have to discuss sooner or later how to proceed in case TDF and OOo will go different ways in the future, but this is out of the scope of this thread. Hopefully, also not the right time yet. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-10-05 13.34: despite times of troubles, I'm planning to throw a party for OOo's 10th birthday as part of the monthly meeting of the Beijing Linux User Group on October 12th. Accordingly, I would like to request a subsidy of up to 150 Euro on the expenses of the OOo Marketing Project budget to support this little event. I'm happy to agree to this funding. However, given the current things going on. I am not sure if I am still eligible for granting money from the budget. Thus, I copy the budg...@council list, seeking for confirmation. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
Hi, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi all, as time has already become short, we really need to have a logo we can use on our homepage and in marketing material spread by our project. Based on a design by Miguel Boto, a new member of the Art Project, I created a logo that I request approval as official 10th anniverary logo for: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOo10.png So please comment with +1 during the next three days (until Sept. 30th, 12:00 UTC), if you wan this logo to become the official 10th anniversary logo for OpenOffice.org. (If you dislike it or know any better one, you may vote -1 too ;-) ) Short version: +1 Long version: Many, many thanks to Miguel and Bernhard for putting together such great pearl of artwork that shall IMHO become the official logo for OpenOffice.org's 10th anniversary. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Reminder: Marketing Conference Call on Friday
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, this Friday, 0900 CEST (=UTC+2=GMT+2), we will have our next marketing conference call. I might be repeating myself, but please(!) use plain UTC/GMT rather than the timezone you are coincidently happen to live in garnished with an mathematic equation. ;-) Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Transcribe SMP meettnng flipcharts (was Re: [marketing] next call conf)
Hi Drew, many, many thanks. :-) Your transcription will be immensely useful with continuing the work on the SMP. Best regards, Peter Drew Jensen wrote: Hi, I believe you where referring to someone transcribing the flip[ chart images at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan_2010 Didn't see where anyone did this yet. I have not double checked this - but a quick pass //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-1 Bainstorming Goals Rule The World - The Freedom that servers your Security To Break the monopoly (Like Firefox) Establish Market Dominance for Open Format 100% (?) City Councils to Adopt ODF ODF Remcommended in Every Country OOo Used by every ministry of Education ODfF - -- Universal Interapability of Office Data Recue the Global Piracy Rate Establishing Free Office Suites Everywhere Creating Office Data that lasts for at least 25 years Best Productivity Increase the number of ISVs working with OOo Remove propiretary formats from public sector Becoming an information framework Become the first choice for Document Processing Seamless interaction of Offie Documents int the Semantic Web Accepted and Supported by all major service providers Lowering the Entry barrier to the community Establish an Open Standard for Business Communication Fostering Cooperation with other communities Most Satisfied users Choosen because of desire, not only of need Constantly growing community Best integration with other FOSS products Trustful communication within the community //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-2 General Positioning message for OOo ---Brain Storming --- Free your files and the ass will follow Puts you in the center Control your Documents OCnrrol the furture of your Documents You can start your better fuuture right now You can join us to improve your future The Office Suite of the Network Millenium //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-3 Distribution through third parties -- e.g. driver COs U.S.: Present at conference Colaborate with universities How to contribute Event with all citires using 100% OOo Communicate what we are doing on local level Content -- Presentations -- Whitepapers -- Templates Brief SMP! Framework! Involve NLC //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-4 MISSION! WEB 2.0 Local Communities!! -- How they did it?! A Plan Goals -- Breaking it into pieces Marketing the tools (eg. Drupal) Integrated message Community + Oracle Technologies with OOo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.orgwrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. how much funding do you need probably? Sorry needed to update on the status, I am requesting 500 dls for the budget on the event. This will cover my stance during the event. Regards. Hi Alexandro, did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really get which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? Best regards, Peter Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] next call conf
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Anyone know when will we schedule the next CallConf, also will we carry out the points (still not published) of the SMP meeting at OOoCon? The problem is still the same, as with preparing the --disorganized, as you call it-- SMP meeting for the OOoCon. Too much to do, too little time. Last week was quite busy. Besides traveling back to Beijing I have been working on getting the presentation slides of the OOoCon online. As we have SFD on Saturday and I also have some other business to care about it might still take some time. best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] FOSSASIA
Hi everyone, please let me point your attention at the FOSSASIA conference (http://fossasia.org/), that will be held in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam from November 12 – 14, 2010. We are working on a OpenOffice.org track there and would be really delighted, if you can manage to attend. We are also looking forward to receive your proposals for the Call for Speakers and Projects: http://fossasia.org/speaker-registration/ Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas
Hi Charles, *, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, my presentation will soon be posted on the website. Thank you for your interest! it already is online. Just follow the links (ODF | PDF) at the bottom of the abstract page: http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/171 best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] the omission of OpenOffice.org
Hi Katsuya-san, Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: Hi, Is there a guideline about the omission of OpenOffice.org? Which is suitable OOo or OO.o if there is no guideline? OOo is the only right choice, although there seems to be no real guideline. There are just some 'hints' on the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2
Hi Katsuya-san, Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: ... Hello Peter, Also we need to implement the SMP based on the milestone of ODF standardization. ODF is of course one of the pillars of marketing OOo. Best regards, Peter 2010/7/17 Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org: Hi Kobayashi-san, the OOo Marketing Project is certainly the right place to promote OOo and ODF, but IMHO the wrong place to organize review activities for ODF 1.2, as this is mostly a technical affair. I would see this in the focus of the OOo XML project (http://xml.openoffice.org/), which is in charge of implementing ODF for OOo. Of course, everyone is welcome to provide feedback during the public review of ODF 1.2, at the ODF comment mailing list: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office#feedback As to the missing Japanese reference books about ODF, I would think this issue should also be addresses with OASIS, either with the ODF technical committee or ODF Adoption TC. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odf-adoption The ODF Toolkit project (http://odftoolkit.org/) might also be a good point to work on documentation. Sorry, that I couldn't help better. Best regards, Peter Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: Hi Peter and *, Of course, this activity subject is OASIS. But Why anybody did'nt reply the contribution for public comment of ODF1.2 ? What is difficulty to organize the review activity in the OpenOffice.org community, include each NLC? BTW, There is no Japanese manual book of ODF in Japan. But also There are two Japanese manual book of OOXML. It's one of our difficulty for JA community. Thanks, Katsuya Kobayashi 2010/7/10 Katsuya Kobayashi katuya21.k...@gmail.com: Hi, Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2 has just started! http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201007/msg4.html The public review starts 8 July 2010, and ends 6 September 2010. -- * I recommend OpenOffice.org and ODF ! * :) Katsuya Kobayashi ( http://www4.plala.or.jp/k21/ ) A member of OpenOffice.org Ja and Marketing Project. kynh at openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] strategic marketing plan
Hi, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, whew, a bunch of e-mails today... ;-) as you can see I'm several days behind. :-( Just wanted to let you know what in yesterday's marketing conference call, we decided to shift the strategic marketing plan to the weeks after OOoCon. I will certainly take a long time to work on the new SMP. In Budapest, Peter Junge and I will have a three hour workshop together with all of you to share first ideas. Due to busy times before OOoCon, we can't work on it before. I will do my best to manage a reasonable amount of preparations. My biggest obstacle at the moment is the work on the program and scheduling the sessions. This is costing me a lot of time at the moment, standing in the way of many other activities. Best regards, peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] strategic marketing plan
Hi Katsuya-san, Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: ... If anyone don't need the wiki page, I'll write on the mailinglist or record my discussion point on my User:Kynh page. WOW, your user page is one of the best collections for OOo and ODF related links I know. Will use it as a portal in the future and also recommend it strongly to others. best regards, Peter 2010/7/22 Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org: Hi, whew, a bunch of e-mails today... ;-) Just wanted to let you know what in yesterday's marketing conference call, we decided to shift the strategic marketing plan to the weeks after OOoCon. In Budapest, Peter Junge and I will have a three hour workshop together with all of you to share first ideas. Due to busy times before OOoCon, we can't work on it before. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] strategic marketing plan
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Katsuya Kobayashi katuya21.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I understood the reason to shift the SMP. I'm glad to have a three hour workshop in Budapest, but where is the whiteboard? :) Alll wikipage has a discussion tab where you can comment and suggest modifications per section. I think is a good choice since you work on the same document and is easy for most people to follow rather than using a separate wikipage. +1 Very good point. Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2
Hi Kobayashi-san, the OOo Marketing Project is certainly the right place to promote OOo and ODF, but IMHO the wrong place to organize review activities for ODF 1.2, as this is mostly a technical affair. I would see this in the focus of the OOo XML project (http://xml.openoffice.org/), which is in charge of implementing ODF for OOo. Of course, everyone is welcome to provide feedback during the public review of ODF 1.2, at the ODF comment mailing list: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office#feedback As to the missing Japanese reference books about ODF, I would think this issue should also be addresses with OASIS, either with the ODF technical committee or ODF Adoption TC. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odf-adoption The ODF Toolkit project (http://odftoolkit.org/) might also be a good point to work on documentation. Sorry, that I couldn't help better. Best regards, Peter Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: Hi Peter and *, Of course, this activity subject is OASIS. But Why anybody did'nt reply the contribution for public comment of ODF1.2 ? What is difficulty to organize the review activity in the OpenOffice.org community, include each NLC? BTW, There is no Japanese manual book of ODF in Japan. But also There are two Japanese manual book of OOXML. It's one of our difficulty for JA community. Thanks, Katsuya Kobayashi 2010/7/10 Katsuya Kobayashi katuya21.k...@gmail.com: Hi, Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2 has just started! http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201007/msg4.html The public review starts 8 July 2010, and ends 6 September 2010. -- * I recommend OpenOffice.org and ODF ! * :) Katsuya Kobayashi ( http://www4.plala.or.jp/k21/ ) A member of OpenOffice.org Ja and Marketing Project. kynh at openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice Summit Asia
Hi, I'm indeed helping FOSSASIA to organize an OOo track, but this text, as it is, is of course full of flaws. I have been receiving it as an early draft and none of my corrections was applied. I will take care about it. Best regards, Peter Samphan Raruenrom wrote: http://fossasia.org/about/ Peter Junge, the organizer of the international OpenOffice.org conference Beijing 2008 organizes the OpenOffice Summit Asia 2010 in Ho Chi Minh City. OpenOffice.org, commonly known as OOo or OpenOffice, is an open-source software application suite available for a number of different computer operating systems. It is distributed as free software and written using its own GUI toolkit. It supports the ISO/IEC standard OpenDocument Format (ODF) as well as Microsoft Office formats. OpenOffice supports over 110 languages. The OpenOffice.org community actively maintains the software in cooperation with enterprise partners including Oracle, Novell and RedOffice. The community organizes code sprints, ODF parties and summits to foster the development. Website: http://openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?
Hi, Florian Effenberger wrote: Katsuya Kobayashi wrote on 2010-07-01 17.14: [...] But I would like to shear the place for our discussion to make new SMP. Can you make an initial wiki page of this special program for SMP? And I would like to know what is the difficult barrier, if it's clear. We're working on the SMP, and we already have a rough timeline for it (a first brainstorming in Budapest). At the moment, however, Peter Junge is very busy with the OOoCon organizing, and I am very busy with learning for my exams, so neither of us finds time to work on the SMP. Give us a few weeks, so we can start with the topic hopefully soon. :-) I would really doubt, that I can be really productive with the SMP significantly before the OOoCon. As Florian pointed out, we are busy with the organizational part of the OOoCon at the moment, especially the selection process for the speakers is very time time intensive. After that I have to carefully review the old SMP, which has about 40 pages formated as DIN A4. I guess it will already be August until that is achieved. best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] poll on date time of July ConfCall
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, it's time to schedule the date for our next marketing conference call in July. Please cast your vote for the preferred date and time at http://www.doodle.com/dstgxyi577p866bk Looks like the poll got kind of spammed by bory, octave bory-bert, octave bory bert. :-( Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Ian, Ian wrote on 2010-06-20 09.34: [...] One way to pay volunteers for work would be for a group of volunteers to raise money eg through an EU grant or other enterprise and use it to target specific parts of the project. That is really no different from Oracle paying the engineers or Louis. The difference between us and Oracle is, is that Oracle people are contracted, we are volunteers. Of course, they are paid for similar things we do, but they are contracted, we aren't. If we now start to make differences between the volunteers, this will lead to risks. Believe me, I really would love to compensate people's efforts and work, but with a total budget of 100.000 € per year, we cannot pay the work of dozens of contributors, plus travel, lodging and others. I think Ian's idea is to top-up OOo community budgets with fundings from the EU. That would indeed be great. I'm not an expert on that but AFAIK publicly funded projects usually include temporary, sometimes part time, employment options. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] agenda for Tuesday
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, as you all know, we have our next confcall on Tuesday. Please do not forget to add your favorite discussion items for our agenda to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls I have been adding 'Status OOoCon 2010' as a discussion item. [...] Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san
Hi Maho, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hello, Florian, John, Cor and Italo, (Cc: Terada-san) I'm the project lead of ja.oo.o, and I'd like to request 1000 Euro for Terada-san's top page renewal work for http://ja.openoffice.org/ . I see one really big issue here. OOo has about 100 sub-domains for language projects, which were all maintained on a volunteer basis so far. If we would now start to subsidize one project, it would create precedence with the consequence, that we have to subsidize every language project, which then means we will need an extra budget of 100,000 Euros for web design. I'm not sure how these funds should be raised. Best regards, Peter Following instruction at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2010 here is the relevant infomation.. * status: it's already committed. * what the expenditure is for top page renewal * where the good/services should be delivered: http://ja.openoffice.org/ * which budget category it falls under: General Marketing * value / currency including taxes: 1000Euro * Supplier name: Terada Kazuhiro Thanks, Nakata Maho -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , JA OOO http://ja.openoffice.org/ http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/ ,GPG: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [pr] ConfCall for June on 22nd
Florian Effenberger wrote: ... 1000 UTC+2. I'd prefer the format 0800 UTC, rather than starting to solve mathematical equations. ;-) Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Time for a new Marketing Co-Lead
Hi Florian, John, thank you for considering me to step up to his role. I am pleased to accept it. Charles, Cor, Louis, Christoph, Thorsten, Drew, Katsuya-san, Joost, Maho-san and Xiaohong, thanks for your personal expression of your confidence in me. I'm looking forward to great cooperation with everyone in the Marketing Project. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, as some of you know, after stepping down from the Marketing Lead -- a role he had held for many years -- John McCreesh offered to stay as Marketing Co-Lead temporarily, until a successor has been found. Dear John, on behalf of the OpenOffice.org Community, I would like to thank you for all your efforts, all your creativity, all your heart and all your sense of humor you've put into OpenOffice.org. Over the past years, you've formed and shaped the Marketing Project to what it is today, and your contribution of OpenOffice.org's success is invaluable. Personally, I'd like to take the chance of not only thanking you for being an esteemed colleague and a brilliant teacher, but especially for being a wonderful friend and an endless source of inspiration. We've been working together in good and bad times, shared laughs and sorrows. It is an honour for me to work with you, and I hope that you will stay with the Community for many more years to come -- you will always be an important part of our big family, and I'm already looking forward to having a drink with you in Budapest! I took a long time in thinking of who could be John's successor. Following his footsteps is not an easy task. Our project is at change, and the Marketing Project has chances and duties as never before. Now that OpenOffice.org has arrived in user's heads and on their machines, we will all have to face new challenges, and the Marketing Project will play an important role. We have many great contributors in the Community, and you surely agree when I say it was not easy to determine who could share the burden of working together with me. ;-) I'm glad that one of our fellow colleagues, who has been with OpenOffice.org for a long time and more than once has proven his dedication and enthusiasm, agreed to start into this exciting adventure. Many of you know him as experienced OOoCon organizer, as the top paper reviewer from last year's Call for Papers and as regular contributor to the Marketing Project and active participant in our phone conferences. I'm talking about Peter Junge who agreed in taking over the Marketing Co-Lead role, and has support from his predecessor, John. I hope you support and welcome him as much as we do and that you share my positive view on his nomination. One of my goals has always been to strenghten the Marketing Project and to bring its members closer together. We are a worldwide family, but in these times of changes, it is more important than ever to work together jointly. One of the first tasks thus will be working on the Strategic Marketing Plan for the next years, as well as compiling an agenda to work efficiently. Let me finish with: I'm proud of we have achieved so far, and I'm looking forward to a bright future with all of you. Thank you so much, John, for your contributions and all you have done. Welcome, Peter, and thanks for starting into this adventure! May the source be with you :-) Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: marketing conference call in May
Hi Florian, I didn't notice the initial mail at all. Considering that voting participation seems to be poor so far, there might have been a technical issue. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, I'd like to remind you of this poll. At the moment, we don't have more than 3 participants per call. If anyone else has time and wants to join, please let us know - otherwise I propose we move the call to June. Florian Florian Effenberger wrote on 2010-05-12 12.19: Hello, it's already mid of May, so it's time to find the date for our monthly conference call. Unfortunately, I'm rather busy these days, so I only found two dates that would work for me. A Doodle poll is available at http://www.doodle.com/zdzs42mekdp5e8qd and I invite all of you to participate. Should these two dates be inconvenient for you, we can move the call to June. Hope it works nontheless :-) Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice is dead
Personally, I would classify this somewhere between a hardly relevant personal opinion and a troll attempt. Peter Gianvittorio wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/openoffice-is-dead/3909?tag=nl.e550 [1] OpenOffice is dead As I mentioned over on the Google blog last night, I’m headed to the Office 2010 launch tomorrow. While Office in particular and Microsoft in general are hardly my beats, productivity and groupware software in the face of Google’s Apps and education’s need to extract every last bit of value from our investments certainly are. This is why I’ve thrown myself so completely behind Google Apps. For educational institutions, it’s free and it works very well, both as a document collaboration solution and as an email/calendaring suite. It’s also why I’ve been a big proponent of OpenOffice [2]. Again, it’s free and provides a perfectly workable alternative to Office. It’s mature, stable, and works cross platform. And it’s free. What’s not to like, right? But here’s the thing: If someone needs a desktop office suite (and I mean they don’t just think they need one, but actually need to do things that can’t be done with Google Apps), then they aren’t going to be satisfied with OpenOffice. I don’t blame them, actually. Given my choice of Office 2007/2010 or OpenOffice, I’d pick Office. It’s polished, it’s easy, and it’s powerful. To be honest, I’m not even satisfied with Office 2008 on the Mac; I run XP in a virtual machine to get to Office 2010 when I need it. For users who don’t need Office, it’s a rare occasion that Google Docs doesn’t suffice. And yet for those who need Office, it’s rare that they’re happy with OpenOffice. Where does that leave OO.org? Our district is fairly rural and there are still plenty of homes with only dial-up or without Internet access entirely. For these families, OpenOffice is a great choice since they rarely have access to academic pricing on Office and can’t get online to access Apps. As reasonable access to the Internet becomes ubiquitous, though, Google Docs or Office Web Apps (even via Facebook) will meet the majority of student and teacher productivity needs. Am I wrong? Am I so dazzled by the pretty lights in Office that I’ve lost sight of the value of OpenOffice? I don’t think I am. The majority of the time, the students and staff I support tend to make use of Google Docs. Same for me. On my Linux machines, it’s rare that I’ll fire up OpenOffice, despite it being a solid choice for desktop productivity. That’s what the Internet is for, right? Because in addition to Google Apps, there is Zoho and Office Web Apps, all of which work quite well. I just don’t see much of a place in mainstream education for OpenOffice anymore. Pre-loaded on laptops and netbooks in developing countries where Internet access is unreliable or non-existent? You bet. But why use OpenOffice when most of your users can work quite well with Apps and licensing costs for Office are low for the small number of users who need a full-blown desktop suite? Links: -- [1] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/openoffice-is-dead/3909?tag=nl.e550 [2] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/ok-now-openoffice-is-definitely-good-enough/1895 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ConfCall transcript and recording available
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Thanks I could hear the recording of the talk, unfortunately the hour selected was not on my available timeline as you can see on the doodle. Maybe next time we should work taking into account the agenda participants to select the time of the CallConf. Sounds reasonable to me. Best regards, Peter On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote: Hello, the ConfCall transcript and recording from yesterday are available at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls#2010-04-26_12:00_UTC Thanks everyone for joining! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Hi Chao, Chaosun wrote: Hi Peter and all Which number are you using to access the confcall? cuz Florian didn't notice the access NO in China, so I only tried Skype couple of times. Eventually couldn't get connected. I was using 'Skype Out' which allows you to dial usual phone numbers. Finally I have been connecting to the number in the US, which costs about 3 Euro Cent (0.3 RMB) per minute. Most of the time I'm using Jajah (http://jajah.com/) for International phone calls, which is at about the same prices as Skype Out, but my the connecting of my mobile phone was quite unstable that night. Jajah is a Internet calling service, so you get connected through a normal phone line rather than VOIP. What I like best is they have a good WAP page for mobile browsing, hence I can connect myself with on-board tools anywhere. I do agree with Peter's suggestions, we really need the alternative way to support the primary confcall. And please consider the members in China. it seems we are out of this all the time. As the others already said, please vote, if you intend to join. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Chaosun sunc...@redoffice.com wrote: Hi Peter and all Which number are you using to access the confcall? cuz Florian didn't notice the access NO in China, so I only tried Skype couple of times. Eventually couldn't get connected. I do agree with Peter's suggestions, we really need the alternative way to support the primary confcall. And please consider the members in China. it seems we are out of this all the time. Chao Unfortunately not many people in china voted on the Doodle list. Also is completely opposite schedule from America. As said before, I basically like confcalls because a team can work straight forward on topics, but on the other hand it will hardly work, if you have participants form US West Coast to New Zealand. So far most of the people in the doodle alert where from Europe except for 2 from america and 1 from asia. America seems to have more, but there's also Graham from New Zealand who voted. Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Drew Jensen wrote: On 3/18/2010 12:37 AM, Chaosun wrote: Well, I didn't vote, because I do understand the 7 or 8 hours time difference made people in China quite awkard. And I don't think if I listed on that list will change the schedule, it's better to suit you guys. I certainly try my best to attend it at 10 in the night. Given that there seems to be, as Alexandro pointed out, more participants in the European area on the calls with a a few each from opposite directions of that as the center, perhaps a schedule that slides in one direction then the other, alternating months, makes the most sense. Might be a good solution. Another consideration would be having a split meeting, which would mean that the moderator (Florian) has double effort. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Hi Florian, *, I just wanted to give a little feedback about yesterdays call. First of all I think it would be a good idea to have an IRC channel running in parallel. Not to open a second thread of discussion because that would be confusing, but rather reporting issues etc. For example I have been dialing in four times yesterday so you would not need to ask every time who joined, but can get the status from the chat. One could also claim things like: I'm with you, I can hear you but speaking doesn't work. The ODF TCs at OASIS always use this kind of status chat. As to connecting from China. First I tried using Skype to Skype, but the sound was like being redirected through a fuzzbox and an echo effect at the same time. Then I have been trying to connect with my mobile phone using a calling service. I have been dialing in through the Hamburg and the US number, but both connections were unstable. Finally I ended up calling with the US number with Skype out. Connection quality was poor but worked somehow, also depending on who was talking. In general I would recommend that everyone who is not talking should mute her/his phone. These conference services certainly use some automatic volume leveling on all participants connected, hence silent channels do not disturb the algorithm and overall sound quality will improve. This also helped on other frequent confcalls I have been attending. Best regards, Peter Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, the date and time for the marketing confcall are now fixed: Wednesday, March 17th, 1500 CET To see the date and time for your time zone, please check http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010month=3day=17hour=14min=0sec=0 Feel free to add your agenda items to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls The PIN for the room will be made available on the above wiki page shortly before the conference starts. Looking forward to hearing you! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] date and time for marketing confcall
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 3/16/10, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote: Hello, the date and time for the marketing confcall are now fixed: Wednesday, March 17th, 1500 CET This time is wy too early for me, I wish we can push it an hour later. Would be OK for me, as it is 2300 in Beijing then. For Japan it would mean starting at midnight. Indeed this shows the conflict of trying to globalize the OOo community while increasingly moving communications towards IRC and confcalls. These media are time zone dependent, mailing lists are not. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-03-12 01.40: Those in the US and Mexico and several other countries also have to consider that daylight saving time starts at March 14th. are you sure that it is that different for the US? I just checked for Germany, and it's March 28th here... Yes, please refer: http://timeanddate.com/time/dst2010.html. That should also help anyone else, maybe except one is living on Mars. ;-) Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March
Lars Nooden wrote: On 2010-3-11 11:01 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: ...cast your vote for the preferred day. Those are UTC times, right? Good question. For the previous marketing calls I could see a time zone selector which is not available now. AFAIK this feature has to be explicitly activated when setting up a poll. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Florian Effenberger wrote on 2010-03-11 11.19: Good question. For the previous marketing calls I could see a time zone selector which is not available now. AFAIK this feature has to be explicitly activated when setting up a poll. oh, thanks for pointing out. Didn't find a way to activate the time zone selector this time, don't know why. :-( All times are UTC+1, i.e. German time. probably I've chosen the wrong option, i.e. poll instead of appointment, and only the latter one seems to support timezones. As I've already spread the link, I don't want to modify it now, so I hope the UTC+1 information helps. For conversion, see http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/ Those in the US and Mexico and several other countries also have to consider that daylight saving time starts at March 14th. Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2010-02-27 17.31: On behalf of the Community Council, I would like to announce the new round of elections for the Council and start the process by asking the OpenOffice.org Community members to nominate those they think would best contribute both to the Council and to OpenOffice.org. You may nominate yourself. Consider doing that. Or nominate someone you think has been particularly valuable for the project; he or she need not be a developer! This cycle, like the first one last year, is important. OpenOffice.org is ten this year and the eyes of the world are looking upon us with eagerness to see how we work with business, government, education, and individuals. Your voice, your input, your experience is needed to take OOo into its next decade. I'd like to nominate John McCreesh, ... +1 Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] iPhone App for news on OOo?
Simon Phipps wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 20:06, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I think the problem of the iphone is and always will be Apple. With news like apple trying to block an app because it reference Iphone, I would be very skeptical about getting it on the iphone. at the same time I have heard of users that have been able to create iphone specific web apps so they look and feel like an application on the iphone. If Apple were to block an OO.o app for the iPhone the publicity would be enormous. ... and that might even surpass the buzz an OOo news iPhone App causes. :-) Happy year of the Tiger, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] 2nd marketing call Wednesday, 1700 CET
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, I'm happy to announce that we have a date for the 2nd marketing call. It will take place Wednesday, February 17th 17:00 CET thanks for setting this up. I hope I'll be able to attend this time. We having a social event of the Beijing LUG that night as well. Likely we should be finished at that time as it's midnight in China then. Of course it fits much better than the previous timing. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo Branding
Cor Nouws wrote: [...] The real issue I see is transparency, as it sometimes hard to know about the sheer existence of some specialized mailing lists. What helps, if a poster, of project (co-)lead informs the overall list (dev@) of a project about a discussion taking place on a special list. Certainly true. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo Branding
Well, I had a peek of following more than 30 OOo mailing lists a while ago and I was really happy that special topics were discussed on special lists as my job was to keep up with the 'big picture' of the whole OOo community. In the end it doesn't really matter if you're getting a hundred mails from one or several mailing lists. Having several lists even makes the live of the intensive follower easier as one can apply pre-sorting of the Inbox using filters. The real issue I see is transparency, as it sometimes hard to know about the sheer existence of some specialized mailing lists. Best regards, Peter Christine Louise Beems wrote: Please forgive... but I do not understand the need to sub-divide marketing topics to different lists... that is, in terms of keeping pace with the 'big picture' as simply as possible it seems logical that all marketing-related conversation/discussion take place on the [marketing] list with appropriate subject headings (ie: OOo Branding)... and personally in terms of effective organizational structure and cohesive/consensus decision making, I think that [art] is a [marketing] sub-topic ~Christine - Original Message - From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Cc: a...@marketing.openoffice.org Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo Branding Bernhard Dippold wrote (31-01-10 16:16) Hi all, [I replied to this mail on brand...@marketing.openoffice.org ] -- Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi, Hamish Bell wrote: Hi Sophie and Florian While calling international numbers can be *very* expensive especially if the time is a Peak hour in your country, you could always use the Skype option - if you have the equipment - which is free. you can e.g. use 'Skype Out' to dial in to one of the provided nodes in the US or Europe. Costs should be about 3 Euro-Cent from most of the world. As mentioned before I'm using Jajah (http://jajah.com) from China because quality of Service is better than Skype here. BTW, I'm not advertising Jajah in particular, it's just the only Internet calling service I know, I'm sure there must be a lot more. However, if you don't then I agree that it makes it a lot harder to dial in to the conference. I live in China for almost 4 years now and I never found it hard (or expensive) to dial anyone or anything. One just needs to know what to do. The only obstacles I have met are time zones and quality of service. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-23 03.13: 9 PM German time would be even worse for China and Japan (2 AM/3 AM), it might be better for New Zealanders who wake up early. I would recommend to play around with the Time And Date meeting planer: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html To try out an extreme example use Los Angeles, Berlin, Beijing and Wellington. whew... I see, thanks! Seems the world is too large and there are not many combinations that really fit. :-( ;-) For the conference after this one, I propose that we ask people for their time zones and try to make the best combination possible. This will not work out for everyone, but at least it would be a fair try... Finding the appropriate time might also depend on the topics to discuss. For example if we discuss promoting OOo in Asia one day, you would surely choose a different time slot than for the same topic in the context of US West Coast. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Sophie, Sophie wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote: Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-20 08.33: well that time slot is not too convenient for the APAC area. 1:00 AM in China, 2:00 AM in Japan, 3:00 AM in East-Australia and 5:00 AM in New Zealand. well, we had a public vote at http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=5p52mbss52maguib and not so many people from this area voted. It's not easy to fit all needs, but at least people need to vote and show their interest. Well among 13 people who voted there are 2 living in China (Dong Xiaohong and me), 1 in Japan (Kobayashi-san) and Graham is AFAIR from New Zealand. That' about 30%. Well, Graham doesn't seem to care about making calls in the middle of the night. Voting for majorities always poses the risk to exclude minorities. Due to the large number of time zones from U.S. West Coast to New Zealand a global phone conference will never work. Maybe it's better to have some regional sub-conferences. It's the same with Alexandro mentioning dialing in from several countries is not possible, therefore we need free dialin numbers worldwide. Apart from the money question, if I don't hear anything from these people, it's hard to take them into consideration :| I can recommend Jajah (http://jajah.com/) a Internet calling service. To join such a conference I would e.g. dial in to the German access point for less than 3 Euro-cent per minute. So, please spread the word and make everyone who might be interested aware! There's indeed a large number of long-term contributers on the addressed mailing lists. Would be interesting to get some of their points why they do not consider attending the phone conference. How can one attend when its country is not listed? :) I'm international. ;-) To get serious again, as I already mentioned in this thread, there are Internet calling services that can provide inexpensive access to dial into the European or US nodes. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-21 03.16: Well among 13 people who voted there are 2 living in China (Dong Xiaohong and me), 1 in Japan (Kobayashi-san) and Graham is AFAIR from New Zealand. That' about 30%. Well, Graham doesn't seem to care about making calls in the middle of the night. Voting for majorities always poses the risk to exclude minorities. Due to the large number of time zones from U.S. West Coast to New Zealand a global phone conference will never work. Maybe it's better to have some regional sub-conferences. Rosana (thanks again!) yesterday found out that 9 PM German time might be a time that could fit for everyone. Let's keep that in mind next time and see if it's possible. On my normal workday, this could get hard after 10+ hours of work, but if there's enough interest and people can attend then, we can try it out. 9 PM German time would be even worse for China and Japan (2 AM/3 AM), it might be better for New Zealanders who wake up early. I would recommend to play around with the Time And Date meeting planer: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html To try out an extreme example use Los Angeles, Berlin, Beijing and Wellington. I honestly wasn't aware that the chosen times are not good for all countries, that's why I was asking for feedback. The next time just ping me and let me know, so we can all benefit. I frequently attend phone conferences at OASIS, hence I'm already used to having calls late at night. ;-) Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-20 08.33: well that time slot is not too convenient for the APAC area. 1:00 AM in China, 2:00 AM in Japan, 3:00 AM in East-Australia and 5:00 AM in New Zealand. well, we had a public vote at http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=5p52mbss52maguib and not so many people from this area voted. It's not easy to fit all needs, but at least people need to vote and show their interest. Well among 13 people who voted there are 2 living in China (Dong Xiaohong and me), 1 in Japan (Kobayashi-san) and Graham is AFAIR from New Zealand. That' about 30%. Well, Graham doesn't seem to care about making calls in the middle of the night. Voting for majorities always poses the risk to exclude minorities. Due to the large number of time zones from U.S. West Coast to New Zealand a global phone conference will never work. Maybe it's better to have some regional sub-conferences. It's the same with Alexandro mentioning dialing in from several countries is not possible, therefore we need free dialin numbers worldwide. Apart from the money question, if I don't hear anything from these people, it's hard to take them into consideration :| I can recommend Jajah (http://jajah.com/) a Internet calling service. To join such a conference I would e.g. dial in to the German access point for less than 3 Euro-cent per minute. So, please spread the word and make everyone who might be interested aware! There's indeed a large number of long-term contributers on the addressed mailing lists. Would be interesting to get some of their points why they do not consider attending the phone conference. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Cor Nouws wrote: Hi all, Peter Junge wrote (10-01-10 03:28) Alexandro's request seems to be quite reasonable, at least. +1 Not for me. I miss any reason why someone from Mexico should go to Los Angeles, there is no clear outsight on networking resulting in local/regional activity, I see no representation of the project, I see no efforts (or reports of that) about contacting people out there ... Maybe that all is available, but until then ... - 1 Does community building stop at borders? As well, looking on a map, the average Mexican place seems to be closer to LA than the average American. AFAIK the Latin-American part of the population is larger than 30%, Spanish is the first language for many of them. IMHO Alexandro is the best choice to represent OOo in that region. Of course a person receiving funding should give a report after an event. Do we have any policies in that regard so far? Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Hi, Alexandro's request seems to be quite reasonable, at least. +1 Peter Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am putting a request of $500 USD to travel to SCALEx next month in Los Angeles. SCALE is one of the most important FLOSS events in the US along with OSCON, Ohio Linux Fest, etc. This event is one where developers will be all over the place and would be great oportunity to recruit and have a display. Unfortunately this trip won't allow me to cover the expense of a boot. But I will be able to bring some brochures and CDs. But also walk around to other boots and recruit on the spot. Unfortunately I wont give a talk since the CFP was over on the 24th of last month but I will still be able to participate on the un-conference and drive a BOF on ODF/OOo and other of the projects I am involved like Education, BizDev and Certification. It would be great to be able to have a presence on this event and network with many geeks from area including San Francisco. 500 dls will cover flight travel expense, hotel and local transportation will be covered by OOoES as well as partner sponsor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Andy, Sound like a good marketing plan to me. Is there any way I can help? any help is welcome! It is just a rough idea at the moment, so we can work on it together. I plan on having a dedicated 10 years site, maybe focusing on the number 10. Like top 10 reasons, top 10 use cases etc., combined with a countdown. Maybe we can add content on a monthly basis, or even weekly. Something new week by week, until the big 10 year party starts :-) I think it would be nice to have the OOoCon2010 exactly on the birthday. Is it October 13th? Of course it is very important, that this is no extra work for the organizational team. Best regards and HAPPY 2010! Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration
OOoCon usually start at Wednesdays. This means of course, that volunteers go on vacation to attend. Peter Hamish Bell wrote: Something to think about Oct 13 ... it is a Wednesday - will many people be able to make it on a Wednesday, being a working day etc. Hamish -Original Message- From: Peter Junge [mailto:p...@openoffice.org] Sent: Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:39 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration I think it would be nice to have the OOoCon2010 exactly on the birthday. Is it October 13th? Of course it is very important, that this is no extra work for the organizational team. Best regards and HAPPY 2010! Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead
John, thank you very much for all the work you have been devoting to OpenOffice.org. Especially for the help you have been giving the OOoCon 2008 team in Beijing. Great to know you still will be MP co-lead. +2010 ;-) for Florian from my side. --- Florian, I hope you will accept this challenge, being sure you can do a great job for the MP. Good luck! HAPPY 2010 for all, Peter John McCreesh wrote: Those of you with long memories may remember that Jacqueline asked me to become co-lead of the Marketing Project in April 2004. One of my first tasks was to compile a strategy for the MP, which was published at OOoCon 2004 as The OpenOffice.org Strategic Marketing Plan 2005-2010. I then became Lead in May 2006, with the SMP as my bible. We have now reached the magic year 2010, and I feel it is time for the MP to benefit from fresh leadership. Since June 2007 I have had tremendous support from Florian as my co-Lead, and I would like to recommend him to you as the right person to lead the MP from 2010 onwards. As we're entering a busy period (3.2 to launch, OOoCon 2011 to award, MS-Office 2010 to compete with..) I have offered to stay on as co-Lead until Florian finds co-Lead(s) to help him. OOo's procedures state: Transitioning from one Project Lead to another is almost always a graceful and smooth affair. The Project Lead or leads are encouraged to nominate their successors, who must be members of the project, and hold a plebiscite on the primary public mail list. So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him your support as he takes up this challenging position. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
Juergen Schmidt wrote: On 12/16/09 8:47 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] If we want to attract more people, we have to do more, real ones, not virtual ones. i agree but not necessarily OOo specific conferences. We should more focus on general open source conferences where we can reach definitely a wider audience as on a OOo specific conference. Certainly, but the OOoCon is mainly to meet the community, not third parties. These are two different scopes to get addressed. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011
Hi Xiaohong, dongxiaohong wrote: hi all: personal, i support there is annual face2face conference. it is obvious of face2face advantages. i suggest that we could not definitely cut annual face2face conference. At the same time, have to concentrate on how to reduce co2 emission during the conference. For example, people can not avoid using car anymore, but can focus on find many methodology to reducing co2 emission. well, the main issue is indeed people taking the plane to a OOoCon. For example if you fly Beijing-Europe and return, the plane causes about 4 tons of CO2 per passenger! That's almost the annual emission of an average Chinese citizen. This discussion is of course very important because we need to find out, if we have an appropriate reason to leave such a big carbon footprint. The emissions causes by people traveling to such an event as the OOoCon can only partly be compensated by acting more responsible in other ways. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
John McCreesh wrote: On Wed, December 16, 2009 7:48 am, Florian Effenberger wrote: [snip] that might be an option, and I don't object of having virtual conferences and RegiCons next to the OOoCon. However, at least one OOoCon a year is crucial, IMHO. But would you think the same if you lived in New Zealand - or Canada - or Vietnam? What we need to consider here is that people live in different time zones. 9 am in London, as global time reference, means 1 am in Los Angeles and 10 pm in New Zealand. I enjoy OOoCons very much, meeting old friends, and making new ones. I don't know how effective they are for attracting new community members. A team needs to be already well established and successful to make a successful bid for an OOoCon. We have never held an OOoCon in North America, where our presence is comparatively weak. Doing North America, preferably close to Redmond :-), or Brazil would certainly be great. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
Hi Florian, *, Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] I just don't think it makes much sense to give up or to limit our so successful and even more important conference for environmental purposes. If we start that way, we'd have to change a lot of things: How many mirrors do we need, how many buildbots do we run? Does CollabNet use green IT? Do we really need so many hosts and services? Shall we attend trade shows at all, as that also is bad for the environment? Shall we still offer OpenOffice.org on DVD, this is also bad for the environment? you are tackling a very good point here. A holistic approach to create a greener project and community would certainly be a project to work on. Again, please don't think I'm ignorant - I really see your point. I just don't share your view that we should limit down the conference. It would be a massive negative aspect for our community if we did so, IMHO. You are certainly not ignorant and you are proving it here. :-) Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
Christine Louise Beems wrote: Here's an idea on conferences to add to the mix: Face-to-face networking and socializing is essential for both community and business development, so how about having an annual face-to-face 'global' conference with multiple (regional) venues, all held on the same date(s). This would give folks the option of staying closer to home -or- traveling to a distant location, being somewhat able to accomplish the same networking/socializing purpose at any location...? Indeed having multiple venues would be be a great thing, but might be hard to organize. It would surely mean a larger budget and I doubt, that our sponsors would be willing to donate for e.g. five different locations at the same time. You also need several teams, usually volunteers, who can manage having free bandwidth on a specific time frame. There are also some effects to consider that result from bank holidays and local vacation seasons. The OOoCon 2008 in Beijing got for example postponed, because the first dates we have been choosing were during German spring school holidays, which would have meant very poor attendance of Sun engineers. [...] Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
John McCreesh wrote: It's approaching the time of year when we start asking for proposals for OOoCon (OOoCon 2011 this time). As our contribution to reducing OOo's carbon footprint, should we go for a virtual conference instead? Even at the World Climate Conference attendees meet face-to-face, because there are certain aspects of interpersonal communication, that only work that way. Nonetheless the OOoCon 2011 can certainly be a milestone towards an eco-friendlier community. A lot of OOoCon attendees put some money aside over the year, so they will be able to afford the trip. How about asking attendees to spare some carbon footprint during the year for the OOoCon? For example using computers 30 minutes less a day. Of course, candidates could also include measures to protect the environment in their applications for the Call for Papers. In Orvieto it was great, that one was able to reach everything by walking. Providing facilities, like live streaming of sessions, to enable virtual attendance as individual decision is also very important. But! A virtual only OOoCon will certainly gets a -1 from me. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
