Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter mashups / aggregators

[rajit]

I wonder if the P2 Wordpress theme could be hacked to do something
similar http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/p2 I should also bust out
my neglected PHP skills. It's been a while!


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter mashups / aggregators

[Jonathan Abbett]

I appreciate the suggestions.

Unfortunately, my challenge is not with finding a Twitter client to manage
multiple users, it's with aggregating the information in a way that I can
integrate with a blog.

Last night, I busted out my PHP skills and came up with a couple concepts.

The first is a page that retrieves posts from and responses to two Twitter
accounts.  The results are shown chronologically, with responses
interspersed.  Responses are kept visually distinct from the primary
tweets.  In addition, it lists all posts with a hashtag related to the blog.

http://twitter.kosherblog.net/


The second concept is based on my desire to monitor social media for an
upcoming or ongoing event that uses a particular hashtag. The site pulls
tweets and flickr photos that match the tag, and displays them
harmoniously.  I may also integrate tagged YouTube videos.  (Willing to take
suggestions for other feeds to integrate.) Some examples:

http://monitr.org/tag/ixda
http://monitr.org/tag/winewednesday
http://monitr.org/tag/kosherfest

Go to http://monitr.org and enter any hashtag you like.

In any case, I'd enjoy any feedback, and I'm happy to share any code with
interested parties.

Best,
Jon Abbett



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> http://cotweet.com also allows the management of multiple twitter
> accounts as does http://brizzly.com/. I use all three but for
> managing multiple accounts (in my case on behalf of clients) I find
> hootsuite to be the easiest.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter mashups / aggregators

[rajit]

http://cotweet.com also allows the management of multiple twitter
accounts as does http://brizzly.com/. I use all three but for
managing multiple accounts (in my case on behalf of clients) I find
hootsuite to be the easiest. 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter mashups / aggregators

[krshnaonweb]

Is this the one you are asking? -http://hootsuite.com/.  It allows blogging
with multiple contributors.Hope this helps you.
Best,
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Jonathan Abbett wrote:

> I'm designing a Twitter visualization for a blog with multiple
> contributors.
> Each blog contributor also publishes on Twitter, and we need an interface
> that integrates:
>
> * each blogger's tweets
> * responses to those tweets
> * tweets with hash-tag references to the blog
>
> I'd like to know if there are any software packages or online services out
> there that already do this kind of integration/aggregation, or if anyone's
> seen good examples of custom integrations on the web that could be emulated
> or improved upon in a from-scratch implementation.
>
> Thanks!
> Jonathan
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Nathaniel Flick]

Twitter is fantastic if you are moving to a new country! I'm moving
to New Zealand 11/12/08 and it's been invaluable connecting with my
fellow web designers and interaction designers. 

I've met two recruiters there as well, one of which has gotten me to
the 2nd interview at a company that has a huge focus in Interaction
Design (Alan Cooper style) and I've learned tons preparing for thes
interviews.

Twitter, like the internet, is what you make it. You can find crap,
for sure, but befriend people who interest you and you can open up
new avenues quickly.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Pieter Jansegers]

There are many reasons to twitter. I made mine clear some while ago in this
tumblr posting:

Why twitter is such a great
success...
http://jansegers.tumblr.com/post/32407612/why-twitter-is-such-a-great-success

But indeed: Twitter can be used in as many ways as language can be used.

The intentions of any speaker or writer can be different from the
acknowledged ones...

Irony, sarcasm, lies, even mythomania, all these are possible on twitter.

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> Funny -- I guess there's no way we'll ever know the user's intentions on
> social media then!
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> On Oct 31, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Jared Spool wrote:
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>> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:32 AM, Benjamin Ho wrote:
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>>  I use Twitter to stalk my friends.
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>> I use twitter to keep people from guessing my real intentions.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[adrian chan]

Funny -- I guess there's no way we'll ever know the user's intentions  
on social media then!


On Oct 31, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Jared Spool wrote:



On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:32 AM, Benjamin Ho wrote:


I use Twitter to stalk my friends.


I use twitter to keep people from guessing my real intentions.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

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On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:32 AM, Benjamin Ho wrote:


I use Twitter to stalk my friends.


I use twitter to keep people from guessing my real intentions.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Benjamin Ho]

I use Twitter to stalk my friends.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Sachendra Yadav]

Melissa,

I use Twitter primarily for:

Sharing - I'll post links of what I find is interesting and give some commentary
Learning - It's interesting to find out what others are sharing and
talking about

In order to keep the signal to noise ratio down, I choose to follow
people who post content, comments and likes that fit my interests.

I did a little research on why people tweet a while back with some
interesting results, posted it on my blog
http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/why-we-tweet-what-value-does-twitter-bring-on-personal-and-business-front/

I'm available on twitter @sachendra



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Kaleem]

I have multiple uses for Twitter. Depending on the context (there's
that word again) one or several of those uses come into play at a
given time.

Stay in touch with friends and colleagues distributed around the
world: Will, Dan and Dave have all discussed ambient intimacy. The
casual contact and conversations that we have with people in our
physical communities is difficult to have or maintain when physically
removed by great distances. Twitter's near real-time / asynchronous
design facilitates that in a convenient manner.

Live-tweet entire conferences (most recently IDEA 2008) and take
questions from a distributed audience: Almost everyone whom I have
seen since returning from IDEA  - and who follows me on Twitter - has
thanked me for my conference updates. A few even said they felt like
they had attended the conference even though they weren't there(!).
I received numerous e-mails and Twitter messages from friends,
colleagues and strangers who found it valuable, too. I know that
Whitney has had a similar experience. I could take notes selfishly,
but more people learning encourages better design.

Save time: Because Twitter ties in to e-mail, Web and mobile - and I
may not know which medium is the best way to reach someone at a given
moment in time - a message sent via Twitter is a far more effective
and less time-consuming way to get in touch, especially when time is
a factor.

Learn about and share local, national and international events: News
about local meetups,conferences and social events are often
disseminated via Twitter. At a recent UX Irregulars meetup when Don
Turnbull was in town, one of the newcomers told me he learned of it
15 minutes before the event and showed up. He wouldn't have known
about it otherwise.

Travel information: Twitter is invaluable for travellers. Multiple
people at home and abroad - or others who are in transit - can
send/receive updates on my status, flight delay information, changes
in plans, directions, recommendations, etc no matter which city I am
in or en route to. Some of you have heard one of my best/worst travel
stories in which twitter plays an important role (too long to recount
here). A friend tells me she thinks it is the single best use of
Twitter she has ever seen.

Timely news: Several of us on Twitter documented and shared
information after an industrial accident in August led to a massive
explosion, followed by dozens more, at a propane storage facility. It
caused the evacuation of thousands, shut down public transit and the
city's arterial, 16-lane highway. Because it happened in the middle
of the night on a weekend, it was hours before news organizations
were able to respond. David Armano and I were online as the event
unfolded which inspired his post:  
http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2008/08/if-you-cant-bea.html

Richer communication: Cindy mentioned the power of narrative
experienced over time and the dialogues that start on Twitter
facilitate in-person introductions and conversation. We can jump
immediately to richer, meaningful conversations already understanding
much of the context that informs our thoughts.

Fun: Expressing one's thoughts in 140 characters can be poetic if
one chooses that approach - in my view, more should. Expressing
complex ideas in a short space is both a challenge and a reward.
Meeting in person is even more enjoyable than a random introduction
due to the shared history.

Contrary to what some say, there is no "correct" way to use Twitter
- though there are irresponsible and disrespectful ways. "What are
you doing?" is a starting point. 

The rest is up to you.

-K

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

2 thoughts on the 140char count:
1. It has actually improved my writing and worsened my spelling.
2. Ya know, you can write across multiple tweets.

Cindy, great story. Ambient Intimacy is a great way of shoring up
long distance relationships for sure.

I guess Billy D or Rusty U.

-- dave



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Andy Polaine]

The Phone Book project in the UK (http://www.the-phone-book.com) do a  
great project on short text writing. The winner one year was titled  
"Everything I Had to Say the Day You Died". The rest of story was "...".



On 27 Oct 2008, at 20:41, Andreas Ringdal wrote:


Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words.
The result: "For sale: baby shoes, never used."

Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel?



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Steve Baty]

You might enjoy this: an example of Tweet-noir -
http://stilgherrian.com/sydney/gonzo-twitter-1-saturday-evening-in-newtown/

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> Wicked sense of wordplay? Ukelele?
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Wicked sense of wordplay? Ukelele?

I guess Bill DeRouchey!


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Andreas Ringdal]

Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words.
The result: "For sale: baby shoes, never used."

Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel?

andreas


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[adrian chan]

Cindy,

I'd love your feedback on the msg i posted to twitter Oct 24 --  
because you clearly read tweets with attention, and with a sense of  
narrative -- and the person you described is interesting in what they  
reveal -- my own posts are not nearly as content rich -- in fact are  
often ceremonial or part of a conversation, so they're often missing  
in content completely but are instead an agreement or approval, etc.  
-- some posters do seem to tweet the handling of interaction, some the  
content of their activities, some tweet to share/distribute, and so  
on. All tweets seem to at least announce presence and simultaneously  
declare availability for interaction -- something necessitated on  
twitter because there's no "online now" indication


cheers,
a

On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Cindy Chastain wrote:


Hello all,

I'm arriving at the party a bit late, but I can't help but respond to
William Brall's post, especially the part about about how "The 140  
character
limit means you can't say much, which means the value of the tweet  
is in

immediate impact."

A few months ago, I responded to a fellow UXer's tweet about how, in  
his
opinion, most tweets were either boring or valueless.  A similar  
complaint
to my mind. This might be true, but until you've experienced twitter  
over
TIME, you will not see the value (and pleasure) in the on-going  
narrative
created by twitterers who tweet about a broad range of thoughts,  
subjects
and, yes, feelings.  This, of course, applies only to those who  
tweet in a
particular way, but I've found that many people I mutually follow  
tend to
tweet about a range of things that all add up to an interesting  
personal

narrative.

For example, I've not only gotten to know someone I once met at a  
conference
better through twitter, but I also learned that he plays the  
ukulele, likes
grilling merguez sausage, is writing a novel in his spare time and  
has a
wicked sense of wordplay.  (Can anyone recognize this person?)  The  
next
time I saw this person at a conference, not only did I feel like I  
knew him
a bit better, but there was a lot more I wanted to talk about.  The  
more I
get to know him, the more I want to know about the stupid cat  
hijinks as

well as his opinions on web apps etc.; because with all this, I get
dimension, something we often lose in other, more mono-message,
communication formats.

As Martin said above, the SUM really is greater than its parts. To  
me, one

of the greatest pleasures of using twitter, apart from growing new
friendships and discovering great insight, has been in experiencing  
the

on-going narrative of these same twitterfriends as told through their
running posts.

I would also add, somewhat preemptively, that the brevity of the  
posts do

not, imho, make for a shallow narrative, but one that is perhaps more
poetic---like a synedoche. (But, then, I'm a sucker for this kind of
thinking.)  It's also not the only value I see in twitter, just one  
that

stands out as fairly unique.

Cheers,
Cindy

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Cindy Chastain]

Hello all,

I'm arriving at the party a bit late, but I can't help but respond to
William Brall's post, especially the part about about how "The 140 character
limit means you can't say much, which means the value of the tweet is in
immediate impact."

A few months ago, I responded to a fellow UXer's tweet about how, in his
opinion, most tweets were either boring or valueless.  A similar complaint
to my mind. This might be true, but until you've experienced twitter over
TIME, you will not see the value (and pleasure) in the on-going narrative
created by twitterers who tweet about a broad range of thoughts, subjects
and, yes, feelings.  This, of course, applies only to those who tweet in a
particular way, but I've found that many people I mutually follow tend to
tweet about a range of things that all add up to an interesting personal
narrative.

For example, I've not only gotten to know someone I once met at a conference
better through twitter, but I also learned that he plays the ukulele, likes
grilling merguez sausage, is writing a novel in his spare time and has a
wicked sense of wordplay.  (Can anyone recognize this person?)  The next
time I saw this person at a conference, not only did I feel like I knew him
a bit better, but there was a lot more I wanted to talk about.  The more I
get to know him, the more I want to know about the stupid cat hijinks as
well as his opinions on web apps etc.; because with all this, I get
dimension, something we often lose in other, more mono-message,
communication formats.

As Martin said above, the SUM really is greater than its parts. To me, one
of the greatest pleasures of using twitter, apart from growing new
friendships and discovering great insight, has been in experiencing the
on-going narrative of these same twitterfriends as told through their
running posts.

I would also add, somewhat preemptively, that the brevity of the posts do
not, imho, make for a shallow narrative, but one that is perhaps more
poetic---like a synedoche. (But, then, I'm a sucker for this kind of
thinking.)  It's also not the only value I see in twitter, just one that
stands out as fairly unique.

Cheers,
Cindy

(twittering as cchastain)
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Erik van de Wiel]

Started using Twitter a couple of weeks ago. For example it is nice to
see what people are doing in between their blog posts. Other than that
when given the chance of getting to know some very interesting people
is always something you at least try.

My twitter: www.twitter.com/aapjerockdt

Grtz,
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

Although some have argued that Twitter may be an effective tool for user
research, I think anyone who thinks it can be the *only* tool is delusional.
It can, at best, provide some data for user research, but I would be
negligent to argue that you could use that and some other similar tools to
develop deliverables like personas.

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Lucilla Madamba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Thanks for the post.  This whole Twitter thread has certainly got me
> thinking on viewing Twitter as a tool for doing user research among a
> particular type of research participants, i.e. ones who are comfortable
> with
> SMS and IM either on the mobile or PC platform.  I doubt if Twitter itself
> on its own can provide the kinds of deep data that you'll need.  If that's
> the case, how would you use Twitter in conjunction with other types of
> qualitative research methods?
>
> Here's another interesting post: a survey of 3,000 US-based users and their
> use of online communities. *The study concludes that Twitter serves
> niches:*"Although both Twitter and SecondLife have received enormous
> amounts of
> press coverage, and are used intensely by some people, they are dwarfed in
> membership by the major social sites such as Facebook, MySpace, and even
> LinkedIn."
>
>
> http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2008/10/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know.html
>
>
> cheers,
> Lucilla Madamba
>
> LinkedIn Profile: www.linkedin.com/in/lucilla
> Twitter:  sailorlass 
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Cone Trees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Twitter is a fantastic tool for user research. It can be used to
> > advantage in many cases for both enabling and conducting user
> > research.
> >
> > Here's an interesting post:
> > http://dinamehta.com/blog/2008/02/01/twitter-for-ethnography/
> >
> > I have begun using Twitter recently. Drop by sometime @
> > http://www.twitter.com/conetrees :)
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Lucilla Madamba]

Thanks for the post.  This whole Twitter thread has certainly got me
thinking on viewing Twitter as a tool for doing user research among a
particular type of research participants, i.e. ones who are comfortable with
SMS and IM either on the mobile or PC platform.  I doubt if Twitter itself
on its own can provide the kinds of deep data that you'll need.  If that's
the case, how would you use Twitter in conjunction with other types of
qualitative research methods?

Here's another interesting post: a survey of 3,000 US-based users and their
use of online communities. *The study concludes that Twitter serves
niches:*"Although both Twitter and SecondLife have received enormous
amounts of
press coverage, and are used intensely by some people, they are dwarfed in
membership by the major social sites such as Facebook, MySpace, and even
LinkedIn."

http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2008/10/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know.html


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> Twitter is a fantastic tool for user research. It can be used to
> advantage in many cases for both enabling and conducting user
> research.
>
> Here's an interesting post:
> http://dinamehta.com/blog/2008/02/01/twitter-for-ethnography/
>
> I have begun using Twitter recently. Drop by sometime @
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Martin]

Other people are still the most interesting content period.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Andy Polaine]

Twitter reminds me a great deal of MOOs in the early days of the  
interweb, except without the high-school kids running around barfing  
on everyone.


Blogs and personal websites are much like the personal spaces people  
used to build for themselves within MOOs too. The open chat is very  
much the same and following a certain batch of people is very much  
like going to a themed room in a MOO and chatting with people. Even  
setting up your Follow stream to be request only reflects some of that  
dynamic (some MOO rooms were/are invitation only). A person's Twitter  
homepage is much like the 'look' command in MOOs too.


I see a lot of the same timbre of conversation, even though the themes  
have moved on and broadened, of course. It's interesting to see so  
much come around again and also interesting that it no longer needs  
the virtual space metaphor for it to work. Other people are still the  
most interesting content online.


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Andy


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Cone Trees]

Twitter is a fantastic tool for user research. It can be used to
advantage in many cases for both enabling and conducting user
research. 

Here's an interesting post:
http://dinamehta.com/blog/2008/02/01/twitter-for-ethnography/

I have begun using Twitter recently. Drop by sometime @
http://www.twitter.com/conetrees :)


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Tori Breitling]

To follow up on Christian's comment about twitter's open
architecture...here's a post that covers nearly every twitter tool out
there, and the multitude of ways folks are using it.  (I came upon the link
via Twitter, naturally. )

http://www.briansolis.com/2008/10/twitter-tools-for-community-and.html

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[adrian chan]

Apropo Twitter, I've been studying it and other lifestreaming apps  
(swurl, friendfeed, tumblr, dipity, soup, etc) recently and I'm really  
curious about how people use it over time.


Of all the social media apps out there, twitter more than most seems  
to have hit a certain nerve. A lot of folks just don't take to it at  
all. Perhaps because it provides little feedback on who out there is  
paying attention. Others I've spoken to feel self-conscious posting to  
it. Many think it's a great idea but admit that they never read it.  
For some it's virtually an ongoing chat -- and for others it's a self- 
marketing tool.


People call it a micro-blogging tool but really I think it's an open  
chat -- it strikes me as speech-based not as writing-based. And it  
seems to me an example of how social software can "work" even when  
from a software perspective they "fail." (Social media work on the  
basis of social (use) practices, not operational/functional/feature  
efficiency.) To wit, twitter does two things to conversation that are  
upside down and in reverse:


--the speaker does not address her audience, but rather is selected by  
her audience (the thing with followers)
--the speaker's message appears in a fictional thread: it is shown  
alongside posts from those she is following, not those she is  
addressing. Sometimes I wonder whether this illusion proves that  
social media design is psychological!


I'm looking into how time-based social media set up different design  
challenges to those of page-based media and would love to know how  
your use has changed over time. Specifically,


--has it tailed off?
--do you read fewer tweets than you did when you started?
--has it meaning for you changed as you have adapted to it?
--do you see using it for a long time, or has it been a curiosity of  
social media?


Twitter and other "social presence" apps are fascinating, and seem to  
point to a genre of social media based more on the feed than on the  
profile or the graph.


What do you all think?

--adrian

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On Oct 24, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Fred Beecher wrote:

To me, Twitter is like sitting down at a big table full of other IxD  
types
and a few regular friends, doing the work we need to do, and  
chatting all

the while.


On 10/22/08, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
(Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found  
novel,

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Carrie Ritch]

Love that Fred! As the lone IxD'er where I work it's nice to know
others like me are out there.

I've been following more than chatting but I'm working on balancing that out.

- Carrie

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[Fred Beecher]

To me, Twitter is like sitting down at a big table full of other IxD types
and a few regular friends, doing the work we need to do, and chatting all
the while.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

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@ William Brail: Twitter is fun when your friends are using it. I was on
Twitter for about a year before my colleagues and friends got in, and it's
gotten a lot more fun after that. I like having a balance of colleagues,
friends and IXDA'ers on my list.
@Niklas: lots of languages are spoken on Twitter. It's really just a matter
of connecting with the people you're interested in. My Norwegian friends
post in a mix of Norwegian and English, depending on the intended audience
for that particular message.

Like many others on this list I use a wide variety of conversation tools to
keep tabs on what's going on, to share what I'm doing/planning and to ask
questions.

Here's my list:

- mailing lists via Gmail for IXDA, etc
- forums for all sorts of other topics
- Flickr for image-driven discussions
- Campfire for discussing loosely work-related things with the others in my
unit at work
- Forums for discussing/sharing/asking the rest of the company stuff
- Wikis for, well, lots of things
- A blog for longer musings on design-ish topics
- Yammer to talk with colleagues about less formal stuff in semi real-time
(more real-time than forums, anyway), but we could be using Twitter for this
if there was some private setting you could add ("work only")
- Facebook for all sorts of casual conversations, especially with people I
don't talk to that often
- my tweets are duplicated as Facebook status messages
- Dopplr for where I'm going
- IM (via various clients, including Facebook) for a variety of discussions

Almost all of my messages are in text form. The variables are length, reach,
display method, a/synchronicity, persistence (attention-wise),
intended audience and to some degree privacy, all of which combine to create
a long list of tools for conversing.

If anyone's sitting on a nice visualization of the different conversation
tools – their contexts and components – I hope they'll share them here.

- Fredrik

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Whitney Hess]

Melissa, people often ask me why and how I use Twitter, so I wrote
this blog post to help explain: "How Twitter has changed my life"
http://whitneyhess.com/blog/2008/07/how-twitter-has-changed-my-life/

I hope you find it useful. The best way to understand the value that
Twitter can provide is to just start using it, a lot! Looks like
you're getting the hang of it so far.

Hope to chat with you soon,
Whitney
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Christian Crumlish]

Professionals in our field would also do well to study Twitter's meta-UI:
its open architecture that facilitates so many innovative I/O add-ons.
Also, it's an experience that each user can fine tune to their own benefit.
This is something that can make the benefits hard to discern from the
sidelines.

Plus, you get to meet Whitney Hess! :D

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

Riffin' on Bill Maher's New Rules - UX/IA/IxD conferences can no longer be
held north of 30 degrees latitude

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Jared Spool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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[Jared Spool]

On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:23 AM, bekee wrote:


it makes me feel
warm inside to follow jared spool's travels



Wow. If only my travels made *me* feel warm inside.

@jmspool

(Sitting in the jury pool room with no wifi, but good twitter access  
on my iPhone.)


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[pauric]

I'm an on/off twitter.com user.. however.. a colleague in our 35
strong UX team hand-rolled a Twitter 'Clone' for internal use. 
Essentially its a hacked WP blog open to the team to make short
status & question posts.

With the team spread across 4 buildings and 80 product sets its
proving extraordinarily useful in eliminating the whitespace among
us.  

For anyone working on large distributed teams I highly recommend
building something that's aligned with the principles behind the
twitter.com concept.  Keeping it on your intranet maintains any IP
discussed.

/pauric
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Mario Bourque]

I knew you did!

Computers are not useful; they cause me all sorts of grief!

We see these things as being useful because they complement our own lives in
some way. Those that don't understand, and there are a lot of them, can't
see the value.

A lot of companies are going through this generational shift where a
handshake and phone call is replaced with an IM or txt.

Mario

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> Just in case it sounded like I couldn't see the point of text messaging, I
> meant that question as a rhetorical one, or at least one to get him thinking
> about needs/function/purpose and design. Plenty of people never thought
> computers would be useful. Or a phone with a touchscreen instead of a
> keypad. The list is long...
>
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:44, Mario Bourque wrote:
>
>  Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll text
>> you back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as annoying as
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[Andy Polaine]

Just in case it sounded like I couldn't see the point of text  
messaging, I meant that question as a rhetorical one, or at least one  
to get him thinking about needs/function/purpose and design. Plenty of  
people never thought computers would be useful. Or a phone with a  
touchscreen instead of a keypad. The list is long...


On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:44, Mario Bourque wrote:

Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll  
text you back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as  
annoying as answering the phone.


I wouldn't text someone in an emergency though.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[mark schraad]

Not to get too philosophical, but I have been thinking a lot about
'needs' lately. I never really 'needed' a mobile phone or an ipod, but
once I had them I realized great utility and benefit from both.
Also... the need in this case is only partially a product or
technology thing, but weighted more towards the 'who' and 'how common'
of the community it has grown. It is a little different than when I am
trying to do something specific and the right tool isn't available.

Sometimes the tool, and its diffusion create the need.

Mark




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>>
>> Not everything is designed to meet a "need".
>
> I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students whom I am
> teaching interactive media. My response was "what's the point of text
> messaging when you can just call someone?". I think he got it after that.
>
> By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty
> tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.
>
> p.s. @apolaine
>
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>
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Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll text you
back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as annoying as answering
the phone.

I wouldn't text someone in an emergency though.

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> I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.
>>>
>>
>> Not everything is designed to meet a "need".
>>
>
> I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students whom I
> am teaching interactive media. My response was "what's the point of text
> messaging when you can just call someone?". I think he got it after that.
>
> By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty
> tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.
>
> p.s. @apolaine
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
>
> 
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[Andy Polaine]

I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.


Not everything is designed to meet a "need".


I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students  
whom I am teaching interactive media. My response was "what's the  
point of text messaging when you can just call someone?". I think he  
got it after that.


By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty  
tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.


p.s. @apolaine

Best,

Andy


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

Niklas,
I hear this argument a lot about many social networks that are
started in the US or UK, but I've noticed a trend.

Brazilians & Portuguese just don't give a sh*t. ;-)
Nor do Israelis, Japanese and many other non-Europeans and well
Europeans. ;-)

Open up Twittervision and not only will you see different languages
spoken, but different character sets (Twitter is UTC or Unicode
compatible, I forget which).

I started out w/ the Brazilians and Portuguese b/c out of all of my
followers I notice more tweets in Portuguese than other foreign
language, followed by Spanish, Hebrew and Dutch.

Do I ignore those tweets. SURE do though sometimes they are good
practice. ;) ... but when I want to engage those people I do and they
do with me and yes that engagement is in English.

Further, the point of the thread is not about Twitter itself, but
about micro-blogging & ambient intimacy. Take Identi.ca (the OSS
version of Twitter) and well just make a Swedish version).
Micro-blogging in its many forms (Tumblr, plurk, jaiku, etc.) seem to
have English roots but global responses.

BTW, to my point, about 20% of the people I follow are non-USers. Ok,
a big bulk of those are Canadian. ;-)

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

"there's a wall around us
we are heady, we are groundless
& we burn our friends & kill their names
build insecure & petty fames
& tattoo things that we believe
skulls & bones & hearts in half-sleeves"

That stanza came to mind, especially the line about insecure and petty fames
- which was more an indictment of live journal and blogs circa 2002 - but
things have changed since then, even with Julia Allison and her personality
cult all sound and fury signifying nothing. Twitter isn't about
instantiating new abstractions of self - splintered personalities that bear
little if any resemblance to the originating consciousness. I had argued
elsewhere that the phenomenon of multiple personalities, along with Pierre
Klossowski's notion of demonic position, gives us a better paradigma for a
concept of pre-Simulationist subjectivity than anything we can get from
psychoanalysis. You cannot be one without being at least two. We are all at
least potentially multiple, even if most of us do not suffer from the
oppressive consciousness of being so. This was made easier with social media
sites, where I could manufacture a persona and within reason, keep it
relatively coherent and separate from my meat-space self. This shattering,
though, meant a form of schizophrenia which, long term, is very difficult to
maintain. Twitter changes that because authentic personality naturally seems
to accrete onto the screen into the 'verse and over time a real pattern
emerges - one much closer to one's true self. This is both kewl and a bit
scary - especially for someone who values their privacy and anonimity, but I
digress...

Back to *Twitter and Trust and Tribes* - from Seth Godin's new book,
"Tribes"

"most people who use twitter don't get it. It seems invasive or time
consuming or even dumb...the converts, though, understand the true power of
twitter...
Over time, twit by twit, Laura has built trust, which has led to a
successful career as a consultant and a worldwide speaking practice. She's
met fascinating people and changed the way her tribes sees the world. She
now has true fans, people who seek her out and talk about her."
"Laura couldn't have done this with one speech or one blog post...but by
consistently touching a tribe of people with generosity and insight, she's
earned the right to lead."
"Personally, I can't imagine the technology mattering much. Blogs and
twitter and all manner of other tools will come and go, possibly by the time
you read this. The tactics are irrelevant, and the technology will always be
changing. The essential lesson is that every day it gets easier to tighten
the relationship you have  with the people who choose to follow you."

And that, my friends, is a pretty descent argument re:twitter.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Dave Fleming]

I have also had a lot of fun on Twitter, as well as sharing relevant
UX / IA / IxD and Web Strategy Info, and learning from all the
incredibly talented folks that share on Twitter. You have to learn
how to be more selective in what you are looking for, or you will
have to slog through mundane entries, vs. something more relevant to
your field or agenda.

Uses :
Marketing, forums, self-promotion, politics- hard to name a media
form that is not connected somehow. It is now becoming more popular
on live CNN forums and is catching on quickly wherever people are
looking for accessible, real-time commenting. 

This guy - http://twitter.com/jowyang , is a brilliant web strategist
from Forrester who has also has a great blog at: 
http://web-strategist.com/blog/ - definitely bleeding edge news,
insights and research. 

If you are going to jump into the Twitter banter, be sure to check
out the www.tinyurl.com site, enabling you to share URL's within
that context.

Twitter - @xshapes
blog- http://uxpractitioner.blogspot.com/
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[krushford]

I think twitter leverages many of the "killer" aspects of blogging
tweets have a ubiquitous rather than a localized feel as I follow the
micro-blog updates of career heroes as well as my coworkers and
friends.   maybe u have to be a birder to appreciate it!

peep,
lo


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> what people have already done over IM.
>
> I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this. What's the
> killer app here that's new?
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Jorge Márquez]

Wonderful discussion here!

I want to follow all of you guys on... mine is @jorgemarquez I use to write
in spanish and english depending on the comment.

I became fan of Twitter since I discovered the great networking potential
behind this tool.

Here a list for what I'm using Twitter:

1.- Networking
2.- Searching for new trends (try http://search.twitter.com/)
3.- Knowing instant thought, I mean to discover what people are talking
about... A few months ago the first news I got from the tragical plane crash
on Madrid airport was from a twitt, twitter journalism was more effective
than regular media.
4.- To understand the community and to "listen" (Try http://tweetscan.com or
http://twitrratr.com/)

Here my two cents: Twitter could be as useful as you want or useless as you
want, it depends on deep you want to dig into the tool.

I think that followings and followers will increase today for sure!



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Niklas Wolkert]

Isn't Twitter (currently) very much about following fellow _English
speaking_ tweeters?

In Sweden, and to my knowledge Europe (correct me if I'm wrong),
twitter hasn't taken of(on?) at all. For various reasons, but a big
one I guess being language. Having my 'local' friends following my
English tweets would just be silly having my Turkish or Dutch or
German or XXX friends look at texts like: "Jag åt en suverän
blodpudding i killarnas omklädninsgrum i morse", equally silly, i
promise you :)

Give me automatic direct translations of tweets. When I decide to
follow, I also choose what language I want to see it in. That could
actually ad a layer of humor.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Martin]

RT @KathySierra
@Armano the 1 thing that has surprised me most about Twitter? The sum
really IS greater than the parts. (impossible to perceive w/o trying)
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[j. eric townsend]

Regnard Raquedan wrote:
My issue with twitter is that discussions 


I don't think I'd ever try having a "dicussion" over twitter.

IMHO, twitter was designed for @jennyholzer and the rest of us are just 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

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Twitter's beauty is in it's simplicity. Sure, it may reinforce a whole bunch
of crap; but I can tweet something and follow up via email, phone, or in
person. If you throw all your fish in one bucket, it's not all that
effective. Once you build relationships, those 140 character tweets are bits
of larger conversations.

For a lot of people, it's pure voyeurism. Waste of time, boring, yawn, who
the f*** cares about a cat peeing on a carpet. For others, it's a tool that
enables connections, relationships, and quick communications. It is what
goes on behind the scenes that is magic. If you've ever gone to a tweetup,
you'd see how twitter has helped created great friendships.

I keep saying that it's not about how many followers you have, it's about
the quality of your stream. I'm managing with 170 or so and I tweak as
necessary. Just because I don't follow people back doesn't mean I don't read
their tweets, I just do it offline. It's difficult to manage so much traffic
at once. I also always reply to @ messsages.

It has given me access to a worldwide network of experts and I've developed
some great personal relationships as a result. I have better relationships
with my twitter friends than with people I see every day. It fits my need
and has made me even more productive.

Like everything your use and participation is what you make of it. My wife
also thinks it's lame, but she has no use for it, other than I can direct
message her email account from twitter :)

I think twitter is great, although their infrastructure has caused us all
headaches at one time or another.

It's not for everybody; however, it's made me rethink a lot of the way that
I design interactions.



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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:35 PM, William Brall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can see how various elements of twitter can be useful. I see how it
> changes the dynamics of various aspect.
>
> However, if we are going to bring up McLuhan, Will, let's take a
> real analysis of the medium.
>
> The 140 character limit means you can't say much, which means the
> value of the tweet is in immediate impact. And the value of the
> device as a whole is in the ability to screen tweets to get a bead on
> a topic.
>
> There are various twitter-using devices, like election.twitter.com
> that are mining tweets to give a message, but that message is
> cacophonous. It is also trite.
>
> It is reinforcing what is mainly negative. It reinforces ignorance,
> group-think, misinformation, hegemony, trend-following, and impulsive
> behavior.
>
> >From the perspective of McLuhan it is extremely hot, and that is why
> it might have taken off so fast. However, it is also mainly
> valueless. So it is analogous to gossip, only on a mass scale and
> syndicated.
>
> It creates a culture where the quick idea propagates and the
> well-structured is too slow to take hold. It is functionally the
> opposite of intelligence. It is a lot like flocking behavior, only
> textual.
>
> It is too slim to afford good arguments, it is too frantic to afford
> good thought, and it is too uncontrolled to afford good masking.
>
> If you could control what you saw with a more meaningful value than
> who you watch, it could be of real value, but by using that paradigm,
> it forces the user to be constantly screening garbage.
>
> Even a simple Bayesian filter and a thumbs-up thumbs-down system
> could create a valuable system. Where the meaningful is heard and the
> various garbage is squelched.
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

regnard,
I was also a big plurk advocate when it first came out. My issue w/
plurk is that it is the Betamax of Twitter. It just doesn't have the
critical mass to keep me there and so now it is just annoying. 

I wonder if someone using the API of twitter can replicate the GUI.
Interesting project. The one thing I might remove is the "timeline"
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

Wow! - Bravo for the Gibson reference. Way to pull an old cyberpunk quote
out of the ether, recontextualize it and fire it off into the zeitgeist like
that. nicely played.

Original quote: "*The future is here*. *It's just not evenly
distributed*yet." ~ William Gibson.

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> > >
> > > I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.
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> > Not everything is designed to meet a "need".
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Loren Baxter]

Will B., good points, but I think you're focusing the criticism solely on
Twitter as a medium for communicating thoughts and ideas.  What about
Twitter as a medium for connecting to other people and building
relationships?  I've been able, and in fact encouraged, to have personal
conversations with people that I never would have otherwise.  That is a
result that simply can't be denied.  The value of the actual conversation
might be negligible, but the relationship is priceless.

Loren

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>
> It is too slim to afford good arguments, it is too frantic to afford
> good thought, and it is too uncontrolled to afford good masking.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Melissa Sherman]

perfect!


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 "all these (tweetes) gone - like tears in rain. Time to die" - blade  
runner

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On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:35 PM, "Regnard Raquedan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> My issue with twitter is that discussions are have a very, very short
> lifespan (things get buried fast).
> Perhaps that's why I like plurk (www.plurk.com) a little better, it  
> presents
> status messages in a timeline that's easier to browse.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Will Evans  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Add your twitter to your sig - gain more followers, become  
>> rockstar, get
>> better job, move to Beverly Hills, get a healthy XXX addiction,  
>> check into
>> rehab, recover, go on twitter intervention lecture circuit.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Loren Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a  
>>> network
>> that
>>> develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that  
>>> I never
>>> might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty  
>>> tough
>> when
>>> you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to
>> have.
>>> However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you  
>>> painlessly with
>>> strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me  
>>> - seems
>>> too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.
>>>
>>> Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
>>> "mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
>>> https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too  
>>> late to
>>> snag
>>> "laurenbaxter".
>>>
>>> Loren
>>>
>>> -
>>> http://acleandesign.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is).  
>>>> Thanks
>>> for
>>>> including me. I enjoy those conversations too.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with
>>> fellow
>>>>> practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown,
>>> Mario
>>>>> Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time
>> throughout
>>>> the
>>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[William Evans]

"all these (tweetes) gone - like tears in rain. Time to die" - blade  
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On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:35 PM, "Regnard Raquedan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



My issue with twitter is that discussions are have a very, very short
lifespan (things get buried fast).
Perhaps that's why I like plurk (www.plurk.com) a little better, it  
presents

status messages in a timeline that's easier to browse.


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Will Evans  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


Add your twitter to your sig - gain more followers, become  
rockstar, get
better job, move to Beverly Hills, get a healthy XXX addiction,  
check into

rehab, recover, go on twitter intervention lecture circuit.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Loren Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a  
network

that
develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that  
I never
might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty  
tough

when

you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to

have.
However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you  
painlessly with
strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me  
- seems

too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.

Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
"mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too  
late to

snag
"laurenbaxter".

Loren

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is).  
Thanks

for

including me. I enjoy those conversations too.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:





But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with

fellow

practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown,

Mario

Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time

throughout

the

day.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[William Brall]

I can see how various elements of twitter can be useful. I see how it
changes the dynamics of various aspect.

However, if we are going to bring up McLuhan, Will, let's take a
real analysis of the medium.

The 140 character limit means you can't say much, which means the
value of the tweet is in immediate impact. And the value of the
device as a whole is in the ability to screen tweets to get a bead on
a topic.

There are various twitter-using devices, like election.twitter.com
that are mining tweets to give a message, but that message is
cacophonous. It is also trite.

It is reinforcing what is mainly negative. It reinforces ignorance,
group-think, misinformation, hegemony, trend-following, and impulsive
behavior.

>From the perspective of McLuhan it is extremely hot, and that is why
it might have taken off so fast. However, it is also mainly
valueless. So it is analogous to gossip, only on a mass scale and
syndicated.

It creates a culture where the quick idea propagates and the
well-structured is too slow to take hold. It is functionally the
opposite of intelligence. It is a lot like flocking behavior, only
textual.

It is too slim to afford good arguments, it is too frantic to afford
good thought, and it is too uncontrolled to afford good masking.

If you could control what you saw with a more meaningful value than
who you watch, it could be of real value, but by using that paradigm,
it forces the user to be constantly screening garbage.

Even a simple Bayesian filter and a thumbs-up thumbs-down system
could create a valuable system. Where the meaningful is heard and the
various garbage is squelched.



Will


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Jay Morgan]

rather, not every need is evenly distributed.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.
>
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Regnard Raquedan]

My issue with twitter is that discussions are have a very, very short
lifespan (things get buried fast).
Perhaps that's why I like plurk (www.plurk.com) a little better, it presents
status messages in a timeline that's easier to browse.


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Will Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Add your twitter to your sig - gain more followers, become rockstar, get
> better job, move to Beverly Hills, get a healthy XXX addiction, check into
> rehab, recover, go on twitter intervention lecture circuit.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Loren Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a network
> that
> > develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that I never
> > might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty tough
> when
> > you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to
> have.
> > However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you painlessly with
> > strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me - seems
> > too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.
> >
> > Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
> > "mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
> > https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too late to
> > snag
> > "laurenbaxter".
> >
> > Loren
> >
> > -
> > http://acleandesign.com
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is). Thanks
> > for
> > > including me. I enjoy those conversations too.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with
> > fellow
> > > > practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown,
> > Mario
> > > > Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time
> throughout
> > > the
> > > > day.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Robert Hoekman Jr]

>
> I haven't heard of anyone getting married through twitter yet - but @K
> announced his successful engagement over twitter.


@garazi actually asked @stefsull to marry him over Twitter. It even made the
tech news on several big sites.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Robert Hoekman Jr]

>
> I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.


Not everything is designed to meet a "need".

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Jay Morgan]

Will, would you please tweet that so i can favorite it?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Will Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Add your twitter to your sig - gain more followers, become rockstar, get
> better job, move to Beverly Hills, get a healthy XXX addiction, check into
> rehab, recover, go on twitter intervention lecture circuit.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Loren Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a network
> that
> > develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that I never
> > might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty tough
> when
> > you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to
> have.
> > However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you painlessly with
> > strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me - seems
> > too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.
> >
> > Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
> > "mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
> > https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too late to
> > snag
> > "laurenbaxter".
> >
> > Loren
> >
> > -
> > http://acleandesign.com
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is). Thanks
> > for
> > > including me. I enjoy those conversations too.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with
> > fellow
> > > > practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown,
> > Mario
> > > > Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time
> throughout
> > > the
> > > > day.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mario Bourque
> > > Web: www.mariobourque.com
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

Add your twitter to your sig - gain more followers, become rockstar, get
better job, move to Beverly Hills, get a healthy XXX addiction, check into
rehab, recover, go on twitter intervention lecture circuit.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Loren Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a network that
> develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that I never
> might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty tough when
> you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to have.
> However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you painlessly with
> strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me - seems
> too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.
>
> Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
> "mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
> https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too late to
> snag
> "laurenbaxter".
>
> Loren
>
> -
> http://acleandesign.com
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is). Thanks
> for
> > including me. I enjoy those conversations too.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with
> fellow
> > > practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown,
> Mario
> > > Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout
> > the
> > > day.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mario Bourque
> > Web: www.mariobourque.com
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Loren Baxter]

I'm still figuring out how Twitter is useful.. it seems like a network that
develops pretty slowly.  I've gotten to talk to some UX folk that I never
might have met otherwise, which is fun.  Crowdsourcing is pretty tough when
you don't have many followers, but it looks like an awesome power to have.
However, one point is clear, that Twitter can connect you painlessly with
strangers and / or industry stars.  IM never did that, not for me - seems
too awkward and personal, like calling someone out of the blue.

Random note: I was looking for Mario on twitter and stumbled on his
"mis-spelling" redirect account - totally awesome:
https://twitter.com/marioborque   Unfortunately I showed up too late to snag
"laurenbaxter".

Loren

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is). Thanks for
> including me. I enjoy those conversations too.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with fellow
> > practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown, Mario
> > Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout
> the
> > day.
>
>
> --
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> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

OH! and did people see what Current.tv did w/ Twitter during the
debates. While I know that some have seen IM over MTv the way that I
could reply to people was very dfiferent than the IM/MTv space and it
all being done in a very open way was empowering. Why? B/c I knew that
500 people saw it besides the rest of the TV audience who in 3 debates
only saw 1 of my 100/debate tweets. ;-)

(thanx to everyone who didn't unfollow me!)

Again, I still liken it to TV. It ain't for everyone, and ya know
what, it doesn't have to be.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Mario Bourque]

Wow, that's a pretty distinguished list (except for me that is). Thanks for
including me. I enjoy those conversations too.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with fellow
> practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown, Mario
> Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout the
> day.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

@beezy gave a lecture a month ago in DC and argued for using twitter to do
user research on companies. Companies are also using twitter to do
competitive research and find out what people are saying about their
products. Unfortunately, I bet #comcast doesn't or they would be disturbed
at how thoroughly people hate them

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I'm there (@melisherman)
> and I use it a lot lately – along with thinking about various uses.
>
> As someone who designs
> software for a very specific audience (plant and process anyone?) it can be
> enough to simply design a good 3D equipment modeler.  But I can't help but
> want to see how things like twitter can be used to increase design
> collaboration and help reduce design process waste.
>
> Thus my earlier question
> regarding novel uses…
>
> 
> From: Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; IxDA List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:03:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
>
> Melissa,
>
> You'll find me @docbaty - and my only recommendation would be to try
> twitter (if you haven't already) and see what *you* get out of it, since it
> seems to be different for everybody.
>
> But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with fellow
> practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown, Mario
> Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout the
> day. As well as speak to my wife about my day; let my Dad know what I'm up
> to; vent a little; organize a beer in the local pub with anyone who happens
> to be nearby; source staff for a project; or catch up with friends.
>
> Give it a try.
> Steve
>
>
> 2008/10/23 Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
> (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
> communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
> possibly unintended, uses for the product.
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Jay Morgan]

Since i've been called out regarding threesomes, I'll instantiate one here
and share the sentiment i expressed in my latest tweet:
"Ode to the tweethaters: someone must sit behind the wave and declare the
idea of tide unproven, their skepticism of fluidity unchanged."

That came to mind after reading william brall and tahsin shamma's points
that the value isn't there. There's a difference between what you can't see
and what isn't there. I don't have to understand tides to derive pleasure
from going to the beach and enjoying a swim at my leisure. I'd rather you
get in the water yourself than have to explain it to you.

Results of using twitter: the laconic art learned under the selection
pressure of 140char or less. And, i lost 3 inches from my waist by
economizing.


Getting back to some -me time...

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Will Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Tahsin Shamma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I think it definitely is a personal choice.
> >
> > If I went to a party, I would rather have one night-long deep
> conversation
> > with 1 person than 50 short conversations with many people. Sure I spend
> a
> > lot of time on the web, but I also feel that the web has lessened
> > interaction between people on a personal level, to a degree that everyone
> > is
> > just a blurb of their real personality.
>
>
> Agreed - one long conversation in meatspace is definitely better - I still
> don't buy the notion of a bunch of folks going to a bar, and between sips,
> tweeting the conversation - but to each his own.
>
> >
> >
> > If I were to liken Twitter to anything, it would be like setting up your
> > own
> > personal forum/IM chat, a place where only you and your friends and
> anyone
> > you'd like to share your id with can constantly chat.
>
> Yeah - I think @daveIxD likened it to IRC - which seems the closest
> 'analog'
> pardon the mixed usage.
>
> >
> >
> > I agree, the medium is the message, and the medium itself is still too
> > impersonal for me to really communicate with someone.
>
>
> it can be inane and impersonal sometimes - but it can act as a gateway drug
> to great intimacy with folks, but it's still more group focused, and there
> is still no I in threesome. (thanks @*jayamorgan<
> http://twitter.com/jayamorgan>
> )*
>
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>
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> and what you innovate are design problems"
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[Melissa Sherman]

I'm there (@melisherman)
and I use it a lot lately – along with thinking about various uses.
 
As someone who designs
software for a very specific audience (plant and process anyone?) it can be
enough to simply design a good 3D equipment modeler.  But I can’t help but
want to see how things like twitter can be used to increase design
collaboration and help reduce design process waste.  
 
Thus my earlier question
regarding novel uses…


From: Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

Melissa,

You'll find me @docbaty - and my only recommendation would be to try twitter 
(if you haven't already) and see what *you* get out of it, since it seems to be 
different for everybody.

But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with fellow 
practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown, Mario 
Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout the day. 
As well as speak to my wife about my day; let my Dad know what I'm up to; vent 
a little; organize a beer in the local pub with anyone who happens to be 
nearby; source staff for a project; or catch up with friends.

Give it a try.
Steve


2008/10/23 Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
(Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
possibly unintended, uses for the product.




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Steve Baty]

Melissa,

You'll find me @docbaty - and my only recommendation would be to try twitter
(if you haven't already) and see what *you* get out of it, since it seems to
be different for everybody.

But I thoroughly enjoy the fact that I can chat/banter/debate with fellow
practitioners like Russ Unger, Will Evans, Dave Malouf, Dan Brown, Mario
Bourque, Livia Labate, Christina Wodtke etc etc at any time throughout the
day. As well as speak to my wife about my day; let my Dad know what I'm up
to; vent a little; organize a beer in the local pub with anyone who happens
to be nearby; source staff for a project; or catch up with friends.

Give it a try.
Steve

2008/10/23 Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
> (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
> communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
> possibly unintended, uses for the product.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Tahsin Shamma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think it definitely is a personal choice.
>
> If I went to a party, I would rather have one night-long deep conversation
> with 1 person than 50 short conversations with many people. Sure I spend a
> lot of time on the web, but I also feel that the web has lessened
> interaction between people on a personal level, to a degree that everyone
> is
> just a blurb of their real personality.


Agreed - one long conversation in meatspace is definitely better - I still
don't buy the notion of a bunch of folks going to a bar, and between sips,
tweeting the conversation - but to each his own.

>
>
> If I were to liken Twitter to anything, it would be like setting up your
> own
> personal forum/IM chat, a place where only you and your friends and anyone
> you'd like to share your id with can constantly chat.

Yeah - I think @daveIxD likened it to IRC - which seems the closest 'analog'
pardon the mixed usage.

>
>
> I agree, the medium is the message, and the medium itself is still too
> impersonal for me to really communicate with someone.


it can be inane and impersonal sometimes - but it can act as a gateway drug
to great intimacy with folks, but it's still more group focused, and there
is still no I in threesome. (thanks @*jayamorgan
)*

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Tahsin Shamma]

I think it definitely is a personal choice.

If I went to a party, I would rather have one night-long deep conversation
with 1 person than 50 short conversations with many people. Sure I spend a
lot of time on the web, but I also feel that the web has lessened
interaction between people on a personal level, to a degree that everyone is
just a blurb of their real personality.

If I were to liken Twitter to anything, it would be like setting up your own
personal forum/IM chat, a place where only you and your friends and anyone
you'd like to share your id with can constantly chat.

I agree, the medium is the message, and the medium itself is still too
impersonal for me to really communicate with someone.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Carrie Ritch]

I found it very useful recently following @armano and @whitneyhess as
they posted bits & pieces from the IDEA and UI13 conferences that I
wasn't able to attend.

- Carrie

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

Oh - I forgot - I know of at least 3 people that got IxD/UX gigs via
twitter. I know one guy that got a speaking engagement through twitter. I
haven't heard of anyone getting married through twitter yet - but @K
announced his successful engagement over twitter. @russu announced his
forbidden love on twitter, and @zakiwarfel gave up on IM and now can only be
reached through twitter or telepathically.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Tahsin Shamma]

I agree that Twitter has little real value besides replicating in web form
what people have already done over IM.

I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this. What's the
killer app here that's new?



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Melissa Sherman]

I'll confess:  I want everyone's twitter id. (Can we add a field on the member 
profile form?)


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Check out Leisa Reichelt's blog post on Ambient Intimacy [1]. There are
people who I only see once a year (at conferences), but I'd like to get to
know them better. There are people who live in the same town as I do, but we
don't get to see each other all that often.
By following them on Twitter, I can remain in touch with them and their
lives.

Recall the last time you asked someone you hadn't seen in a while "What's
up?" or "How's things?". What did they say? Probably, "Oh, busy" and not too
much else. Why? Because after 6-12 months of not being in touch, there's too
much to say! Twitter breaks down that wall.

It's use as IM or a virtual watercooler is a nice side-effect, but not the
real value for me.

-- Dan

1. disambiguity - » Ambient
Intimacy<http://www.disambiguity.com/ambient-intimacy/>

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> I agree that Twitter has little real value besides replicating in web form
> what people have already done over IM.
>
> I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this. What's the
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Andrew Otwell]

Like others, I enjoy Twitter most for the many tiny updates from friends
throughout the day.

Recently during the Design Engaged conference, we used it for group
coordination and last-minute updates; it was extremely useful.

Most interesting to me is how people are using it to give lightweight online
presences to non-human things like: houseplants (
http://www.botanicalls.com/twitter/) or the Tower Bridge in London (
http://twitter.com/towerbridge)

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[Dan Brown]

Check out Leisa Reichelt's blog post on Ambient Intimacy [1]. There are
people who I only see once a year (at conferences), but I'd like to get to
know them better. There are people who live in the same town as I do, but we
don't get to see each other all that often.
By following them on Twitter, I can remain in touch with them and their
lives.

Recall the last time you asked someone you hadn't seen in a while "What's
up?" or "How's things?". What did they say? Probably, "Oh, busy" and not too
much else. Why? Because after 6-12 months of not being in touch, there's too
much to say! Twitter breaks down that wall.

It's use as IM or a virtual watercooler is a nice side-effect, but not the
real value for me.

-- Dan

1. disambiguity - » Ambient
Intimacy

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Tahsin Shamma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree that Twitter has little real value besides replicating in web form
> what people have already done over IM.
>
> I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this. What's the
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

the medium is the message - twitter is different. IM is one2one,
synchronous. twitter is many2matter, asynchronous, with no comitment, you
can jump in or out at will, IM requires you to actually be there/then. Email
conversations are more formal, although asynchronous, but also not condusive
to fleeting, check this out, kinds of things - and as those who have argued
about the power of ambient intimacy - it let's me keep tabs on those I don't
regularly communicate with so that when we hook up in meatspace, there is a
shared context.

I don't know about this "killer app" thing of which you speak - its a
medium/tool - it's not a distruptive technology - but then, there hasn't
been one of those since hypertext - everything since then is just
incremental fluff and marketing bs.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

The way i see it, it is the intermediate of IRC & IM. 
It has the advantages of individual asynchronous talking that IM
brings, but can also lead to real-time conversation to a group that
IRC brings.

It is like a train I can jump on and off of. It is referencable. i.e.
I can mark a tweet as a favorite (i.e. it has a URL in it that I want
to get back to). And it is subscriable in that my feed is an RSS feed
and all that that means.

The 140 character post limit also adds a special dimension that IM
and IRC don't have. 

Also, and related to the 140char limit is that it is multi-channel
accessible and has a rich API which has led to neat creations.

I.e. I can send a message to "d ixda" and everyone following can
get it (sorta like this list).

In the end, it is a mode that requires an investment, an interest in
people's minutiae and the ability to tolerate just sheer bull-shit.
B/c in so doing you really get at a few things:
1) deeper relationships with those you didn't expect you could
2) nuggets of gold that I really don't get anywhere else.

Oh! and by merging my tweets with my facebook status I get another
mode that especially during this election period has been quite
special for me.

In the end, like any new medium, some people make it work and some
don't need it. I.e. I have a ton of friends who don't own TVs. They
see no need for it (especially in the internet age). Me? I can't live
w/o either my TV or my Twitter. ;-)

-- dave
 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[William Brall]

I cannot for the life of me see the value in Twitter. I wish someone
would explain it to me. Looks like a bunch of mindless IMs whenever I
see it. It seems like IRC only no rooms and everyone is crazy.

Will


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[David Malouf]

IxDA has 2 accounts right now (that I've seen).
@interaction09 for the upcoming conference and @ixda which is for
anyone.
The cool thing about @ixda is that it is set up as a grouptweet and
so if you direct message "d ixda [message]" it goes to all the
followers. Pretty neat!

I'm at @daveixd

For me it has been FUN! been a great way to connect w/ @BarackObama
supporters and argue with non-supporters, Talk design, network with
new people, promote IxDA stuff, post and find other tidbits here and
there. Did I mention the "fun"?

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Matthew Nish-Lapidus]

Twitter has enabled me to have the kind of casual conversation with
people that you usually don't get on the internet... Email (especially
this list) can be overwhelming.. and not every topic is worth a whole
email.  Twitter is more like all of us standing around in a room
talking over each other.

It's also a good way to see more of who somebody is outside of the
usual context.  Most of the people I talk to are IxDA related in some
way, or local UX community peeps.

Plus.. I've had great conversations with people that I ordinarily
wouldn't have much access to...


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Will Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Word - and @mariobourque has introduced me to a number of cool people,
> @whitneyhess blogs entire conferences for those that can't go, the list goes
> on and on.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Twitter is an amazing tool... if used correctly.
>>
>> I've been able to:
>>
>> 1.) Connect with my own user community
>> 2.) Connect with people in other related comminuties
>> 3.) Create new personal and professional relationships
>> 4.) Save money
>> 5.) Become a more efficient communicator
>> 6.) Get feedback
>>
>> I've been having conversations with @*acclimedia<
>> http://twitter.com/acclimedia>
>> * about this very topic. I'm almost inspired to write an article with her
>> about it.
>>
>> Like everything, twitter can be used for evil. There are a lot of spammers
>> and many users are more concerned with # of followers than quality of their
>> own stream.
>>
>> It can be incredibly powerful or dangerous. Remember that whatever you
>> "tweet" into the "twitterverse" is out there forever. It can make or break
>> you.
>>
>> That being said, it is important to figure out what you want to get out of
>> twitter. I've lost the desire to FB or blog because of twitter. It's much
>> easier. Maybe I'm simply more lazy.
>>
>> Ping me offline if you (or anyone) want(s) to chat about it. I'm not
>> professing to be an expert, just an opportunistic user.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario Bourque
>> Web: www.mariobourque.com
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
>> > (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
>> > communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
>> > possibly unintended, uses for the product.
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[Will Evans]

Word - and @mariobourque has introduced me to a number of cool people,
@whitneyhess blogs entire conferences for those that can't go, the list goes
on and on.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Mario Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Twitter is an amazing tool... if used correctly.
>
> I've been able to:
>
> 1.) Connect with my own user community
> 2.) Connect with people in other related comminuties
> 3.) Create new personal and professional relationships
> 4.) Save money
> 5.) Become a more efficient communicator
> 6.) Get feedback
>
> I've been having conversations with @*acclimedia<
> http://twitter.com/acclimedia>
> * about this very topic. I'm almost inspired to write an article with her
> about it.
>
> Like everything, twitter can be used for evil. There are a lot of spammers
> and many users are more concerned with # of followers than quality of their
> own stream.
>
> It can be incredibly powerful or dangerous. Remember that whatever you
> "tweet" into the "twitterverse" is out there forever. It can make or break
> you.
>
> That being said, it is important to figure out what you want to get out of
> twitter. I've lost the desire to FB or blog because of twitter. It's much
> easier. Maybe I'm simply more lazy.
>
> Ping me offline if you (or anyone) want(s) to chat about it. I'm not
> professing to be an expert, just an opportunistic user.
>
>
> --
> Mario Bourque
> Web: www.mariobourque.com
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
> > (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
> > communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
> > possibly unintended, uses for the product.
> >
> >
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Will Evans]

I let anyone (friends/ux community, co-workers/clients) follow me (and i
follow them), on twitter - and I have chosen to be real/authentic - so
clients don't get some sanitized corporate-speak version of the Will they
hired. So far - and there is a community of us, mostly from ixda - that talk
about design, ixd, ux, politics, music, conferences, people riding the short
bus (short out to my homie at NN/G), just about anything that catches our
fancy - and I have noticed that these conversations happen all day long.
Sharing cool articles and new ideas happen alot too - @armano posts a new
diagram, @daveIxD discussing a new article, @semanticwill complaining about
darn near everything.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
> (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
> communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
> possibly unintended, uses for the product.
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~ will

"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Mario Bourque]

Twitter is an amazing tool... if used correctly.

I've been able to:

1.) Connect with my own user community
2.) Connect with people in other related comminuties
3.) Create new personal and professional relationships
4.) Save money
5.) Become a more efficient communicator
6.) Get feedback

I've been having conversations with @*acclimedia
* about this very topic. I'm almost inspired to write an article with her
about it.

Like everything, twitter can be used for evil. There are a lot of spammers
and many users are more concerned with # of followers than quality of their
own stream.

It can be incredibly powerful or dangerous. Remember that whatever you
"tweet" into the "twitterverse" is out there forever. It can make or break
you.

That being said, it is important to figure out what you want to get out of
twitter. I've lost the desire to FB or blog because of twitter. It's much
easier. Maybe I'm simply more lazy.

Ping me offline if you (or anyone) want(s) to chat about it. I'm not
professing to be an expert, just an opportunistic user.


-- 
Mario Bourque
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Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Melissa Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
> (Personal updates?  Reinforcing/building
> communities? Work related announcements?) and if anyone has found novel,
> possibly unintended, uses for the product.
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[Robert Hoekman Jr]

I think there was another thread about this recently—you might check the
IxDA archives for everyone's IDs.
I'm @rhjr.

Interested in finding out who's using Twitter and what for –
>

Adding a personal side to all the business. Most of my followers are people
who have read the books, seen me speak, clients, etc., so I talk about
design, point out articles and blog posts, etc, but then I also add in the
personal stuff — politics, life with 3 dogs, fun while traveling, and so on.
Brings the talking head to life (I hope).

and if anyone has found novel, possibly unintended, uses for the product.
>

Crowdsourcing, 5-second tests (using tests from www.fivesecondtest.com),
tips, tiny impromptu surveys.

-r-

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

[bekee]

i mostly follow close friends, strangers local to me, other ux'rs,
accessibility enforcers, ixda'rs, and the like. it makes me feel
warm inside to follow jared spool's travels, and wil wheaton's
endeavors.

since i started, i've discovered lots of online resources, and a
couple new t-shirt shops.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Jeremy Yuille]

and since being on holiday with a 3g ifone, i'd have to say that twitter
strikes me as an awesome emotional transaction engine

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Melissa Casburn]

Depends on how you define microblog: as a dedicated app or a component within a 
larger site? Facebook and MySpace have integrated "current status" into their 
apps. LiveJournal and other blog sites use the "mood" field to create the same 
sense of "right here, right now". Twitter and Plurk are focused solely on this 
idea, and I'd argue that Twitter has first-mover advantage in the category, as 
people now have their networks established (what else could explain why people 
have stuck with the Fail Whale this often and this long?). I also think that 
Twitter nailed the brand... what the heck does "plurk" even mean?

Here's why it works for me:
- Their open API means lots of people get to build new ways to interact with 
it, and lots of people do... so I get to pick the experiences that work best 
for me on my laptop and my iPhone.
- I love that I can follow someone without forcing them to follow me. It lets 
me glean info from Jared Spool, Kathy Sierra and Jeremiah Owyang that I'd never 
have access to if everything had to even-steven.
- When I'm alone in the airport and my plane is delayed and I'm tearing my hair 
out, the constant, lightweight flow of tweets connects me to my home and my 
people. Twitter calms me down.
- My tweetstream is made up of friends, colleagues and family; tweets aimed at 
certain segments of my followers are likely irrelevant (and possibly even 
annoying) to the rest. This raises interesting questions in my mind about the 
nature of networks and of communication and about the relative value of the 
info we release into the wild. Twitter, in its utter simplicity, feeds 
complicated internal dialogues that I find valuable.

(Hi! I'm an Information Architect/User Experience Designer/Interaction 
Designer/Call It What You Will with a faboo interactive agency in Portland, OR 
called ISITE Design, and I've just joined IxDA.)



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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

On 20/8/08 11:48 AM, "David Malouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So why does it work? What makes Twitter work? I'm not interested in
> what makes it fail. I'm interested in analyzing the positives.
> 
> What makes twitter work where other micro-blogs fall short?


  

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Terence Fitzgerald]

>
> What makes Twitter work? . . . What are people doing on it that adds value
> to their life?


Two things.  It allows people to place themselves at the center of the
information stream (or at least gives them the perception that they're at
the center).  And it enables them to do so in the most convenient and
ubiquitous manner possible: on text-enabled mobile devices.

I suspect (with absolutely no data at hand to back up my suspicion) that far
more people are active Twitterers than they are monitors of Tweets.  That's
regarding social users, of course, because I know a few people, journalists
mostly, who monitor Twitter actively for professional reasons.  However,
they limit their incoming Tweets to only professionally relevant sources.  I
doubt it's the professional users who drove Twitter's popularity.

Terence Fitzgerald
Taxonomy Systems Analyst
Relegence/AOL

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[j. eric townsend]

David Malouf wrote:

What makes twitter work where other micro-blogs fall short?


Critical mass.  Seriously, I tried the other ones but not enough of my 
friends were there to keep me there.  Sames goes for LiveJournal -- I 
don't use it because of the feature set, but because it has critical 
mass of my friends and communities.


If my friends/news sources all moved from twitter to Pounce, I probably 
would as well, ads be damned.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Eric Scheid]

On 20/8/08 11:48 AM, "David Malouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So why does it work? What makes Twitter work? I'm not interested in
> what makes it fail. I'm interested in analyzing the positives.
> 
> What makes twitter work where other micro-blogs fall short?

I find I'm able to micro-post a plea to the lazy web and get back sensible
answers at any time of the day - the ease of replying (vs going to a web
page and composing a comment reply to a blog post) probably helps.

http://twitter.com/ericscheid/statuses/892199752
http://twitter.com/ericscheid/statuses/892256637
http://twitter.com/ericscheid/statuses/891169993

The fact that all the updates from the people you follow is just lumped
together into one stream, with no overhead to micro-manage .. while I follow
a hundred or more twitterers I wouldn't add the same into my feed reader
because my feed reader insists on displaying each feed source with it's own
heading, post count, etc; and also presents me the opportunity to exhaust my
attention by arranging (and re-arranging) the feeds into little hierarchical
taxonomies.

The multi-platform aspect of twitter is also a winner. If you only engage
with twitter via conventional web browsers then you're only getting a small
slice of the bigger picture. Able to read/write on mobile web devices is not
too unsurprising, having direct messages sent to your phone as an SMS is/was
mondo useful (small furor here in oz because they just turned that off).

e.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Eric Scheid]

On 20/8/08 6:54 AM, "Benjamin Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That, I would say is the only downfall of Twitter - noise.  I prefer
> the once-a-day update, maybe even two, but not every hour!  Keeping
> up with people can seem more like a task than pure enjoyment.

curious to know what you means of accessing twitter is - are you just using
the website? I know that if I only use the website the volume of updates
would be tedious and overwhelming .. however I use a client side tool that
polls their site (via an API) and flashes a little note on the edge of my
screen every time there's an update. If I'm busy it just flows on by, if I'm
not I can eavesdrop on the buzz of the hour.

(Twitteriffic + Growl on Mac OS X)

e.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[overlobe]

for me, the SMS alerts were the killer aspect... they really brought
out the realtime interaction for me.
(and now they've turned em off for us here in .au I'm not sure how
useful it'll be to me)
my fave scenario where Twitter has worked was while I was in NYC
using it to bridge US SMS carriers, getting really helpful dining
advice from locals.  


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[David Malouf]

So why does it work? What makes Twitter work? I'm not interested in
what makes it fail. I'm interested in analyzing the positives.

What makes twitter work where other micro-blogs fall short?

What are the different positive practices, flows, styles of use that
people have recognized?

What are people doing on it that adds value to their life? What
visceral 'entertainment' or 'intimacy' value are they getting
from twitter?
What new information or quality or access changes are they getting to
information they would have otherwise gotten access to differently?

I'm sure there are a host of questions, but I started to realize, I
was leading people.

-- dave

ps. Twitter has changed the nature of my writing. I don't over
compose like before. I reduced the number of unnecessary modifiers,
especially adverbs and adverb phrases.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Scott McDaniel]

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Valeska O'Leary
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> I also started to enjoy the camaraderie of
> like minded professionals commenting on current affairs and experiences.
> Furthermore I enjoyed the responses to my own updates or tweets and
> networking opportunities discovered.
>
> Twitter may not stand up to the empirical logic and best practices of user
> experience; but for those that enjoy Twitter it adds a lot of value. Call it
> randomness, serendipity, or whatever... I enjoy it and have noticed some of
> the most accomplished thought-leaders in the digital space seem to like it
> to. So maybe there's something worthwhile there after all. In terms of
> usability, it's hard to believe there is anyone who is confused by the UI.
>
> ~valeska o'leary (and yes, I'm on Twitter: ValeskaUXBoston)

See, that's what I've been missing - I'm on it, I occasionally post to
it, but I always feel
either out of place or sarcastic when doing so (e.g. "I'm going to the
bathroom now")*.
I don't tend to worry over empirical logic, I just felt left behind
with this new technology all
the kids use.  So maybe looking at it that way will work for me, and
for the shrinking faction
of friends who don't understand and/or hate it.

Scott

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we can reduce them. - Hao He

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Benjamin Ho]

Maybe this thread can be called, "Ok, who broke down and gone
Twittering?" =]

I finally went on as well and first found it to be useless.  But then
I saw all the different messages going on that made me curious.  Then
I tried following some people, but they had updates almost every
hour!  So that flooded my updates and I couldn't follow them anymore
because there was too much noise.

That, I would say is the only downfall of Twitter - noise.  I prefer
the once-a-day update, maybe even two, but not every hour!  Keeping
up with people can seem more like a task than pure enjoyment.

@benjamin_ho


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Valeska O'Leary]

Due to the popularity of Twitter and need to research the latest trends I
began to explore Twitter and complain about it's uselessness. Eventually
started discovering interesting people and stumbling upon useful insights. I
became more and more engaged and kept finding things I'd otherwise never
find (browse vs research mode). I also started to enjoy the camaraderie of
like minded professionals commenting on current affairs and experiences.
Furthermore I enjoyed the responses to my own updates or tweets and
networking opportunities discovered.

Twitter may not stand up to the empirical logic and best practices of user
experience; but for those that enjoy Twitter it adds a lot of value. Call it
randomness, serendipity, or whatever... I enjoy it and have noticed some of
the most accomplished thought-leaders in the digital space seem to like it
to. So maybe there's something worthwhile there after all. In terms of
usability, it's hard to believe there is anyone who is confused by the UI.

~valeska o'leary (and yes, I'm on Twitter: ValeskaUXBoston)




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Robert Hoekman Jr]

>
> But yes, it is a slight letdown to realize that the cool kids you're
> following aren't following you. Drop them a line if you want them to notice
> your message.
>

Direct messages are arguably the best solution. Type a "d" and a space
before the user's ID, as in ...

"d SomeGuy Hey—thought you'd like to know your shoe is untied."

This sends the user an email, and many Twitter clients also show direct
messages within the main feed, so between these options, the person should
get the message.

-r-

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[David Malouf]

HI Matt,
@daveixd here. I think you just need to take your time w/ it. I
can't believe who is following me sometimes. Like why the heck? And
then there are the peeps whom I'm "pissed" that don't follow me
(they have their accts locked up) b/c I'm constantly getting 1/2 of
their conversations b/c I follow like everyone they are talking to.
It in an essence is the reality of community. There are people who
listen to you and people who don't, but if you start to say
interesting things people start listening.

But a lot of people are using tools whereby they are less likely to
miss an @ (even from someone not following them) than just a standard
broadcast message. So don't be afraid to @ people who aren't
following you. It might just be the way you get noticed.

But I do think you need to consider twitter differently from other
paradigms and evolve your expecations and your behavior towards it.
Explore, experiment and you'll find what ends up working FOR YOU
using all the tools w/in the system. 

I.e. some people live on Summize searches and that way they keep up
with topics or people based on those query results thus never missing
anything. Others ignore that completely and just rely on the great AIR
(or other) based clients they use. Others live entirely on their
iPhone apps. I mix it up a lot except for summize.

All I know is that I miss it, when I'm away for too long. ;-)

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] twitter and IxDA once again

[Fredrik Matheson]

It depends on what you want to use it for.
For broadcasting "hey this might be interesting" bits of information to your
friends, it works well.

Just like shouting across a room to a friend, sending a message to one
friend and letting everyone in your "gang" hear what you're saying adds a
dimension not found in e-mail. You could do the same thing on Facebook etc.
but then you'd have to visit that person's page or subscribe to numerous
feeds.

But yes, it is a slight letdown to realize that the cool kids you're
following aren't following you. Drop them a line if you want them to notice
your message.

- Fredrik

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