[slim] Re: Adding Internet Radio .PLS/.M3U stations to Favorites
MyPicks will not handle PLS or M3U different if the M3U/PLS URL is the URL used in the MyPicks entry. However MyPicks enables you to import M3U or PLS files and it will parse them as a list of separate URLs. MyPicks will then make a entry for each URL in the M£U/PLS list. You can then select which one of the constituent URLs to play. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31747 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 rebooting very frequently
Hi, I have 4 SB3's connected wirelessly. I have recently upgraded to Simserver 6.5.1 and shortly afterwards, one of the SB3's started rebooting soon after I tried playing anything on it. (The two events 6.5.1 reboot may be unrelated). I followed tech support advice and tried the SB3 via an ethernet link and also tried a system reset (turning it on with the + button depressed). Neither of these made any difference. Currently if I play a song - it can play a few seconds then resets and eventually restarts playing the song. Sometimes it can play for a couple of minutes. I tried using squeezenetwork to remove the connection with my slimserver. This lasted about 10s before rebooting the first time. From there it lasted 10 minutes without reboot before I stopped the test and went back to my slimserver where it rebooted again after a few seconds. HELP! any suggestions on how to diagnose the issue are welcome. Note this only happens on 1 out of 4 SB3s and occurs wirelessly and wired. on both Squeezenetwork and slimserver 6.5.1 thanks in advance, Michael -- msui772 msui772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fast Forwarding not working. Ideas?
Because the various player types have different capabilities, and you might have more than one connected to your server. Each player type has a set priority order - for an SB3 for example FLAC is top of the list - so that's what SS will send it if allowed. An SB1 however can't play FLAC so has a different first choice. So for a given input type, the server looks down the player's priority list and serves up the first one that it finds which is allowed in the configuration table. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31740 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Clean up music collection
Both Picard or the classic version have GUIs that are way out of the things user interface design guidelines would suggest, but once you found out to use them, they may be useful. It's not fully automated, thats true, but its not so much more steps. You drag all your files into it, it'll analyze them in background (give it a night for a full collection), and when its finished, you can press the save button, which again might take some time depending on size. Picard is better then through using a newer algorithm than TRM (TRMs often have a dozen matches), but even uglier to use ;) -- CCRDude CCRDude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8478 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The End Of Each Song Is Cut Off On Playback
Hi Since upgrading to 6.5.1 (and maybe before that), all my songs miss the last 5-10 seconds or so on playback - with the next song starting straight away - before the last one has ended. I have a large library of MP3 (LAME) and Apple Lossless albums, and use the iTunes interface. All was fine before the software upgrade. This playback problem occurs on every playlist or album that I play. I have checked server settings, re-booted, re-installed etc., but to no avail. Is this a known problem? I thought at first it was a glitch that would be fixed, but it makes listening very frustrating - not to say unimpressive! Thanks for any help! __ Nick See: www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze Reply With Quote -- nickrt Nick See: www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze nickrt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31755 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New Bufallo Media NAS
Sounds like a good idea. It's be a Godsend if it comes native with Slimserver too. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=29800Itemid=76#jc_writeComment -- agentsmith SB2/Pioneer DV-S733A - Benchmark DAC1 - Naim Nait 5i - Naim Ariva Speakers. Storage via Buffalo 250GB LANStation+300GB USB drive, Slimserver in old Thinkpad T30. agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
JJZolx;171103 Wrote: If you can have a downtime service available, couldn't you instead achieve nearly 100% uptime of SqueezeNetwork itself with a second SN cluster at another datacenter? One in the US and one in Europe, for instance. Oooh yes please, one in Europe would be great!!:) Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes / FLAC Strategy anyone?
Thanks for all the suggestions, still confused what to do. I'm swapping from an old dual pentium workstation to a macbook and don't ~really~ want to fire the PC up just to rip CDs. So windows software seems a bit of a non starter. I've looked at the Mac OS X program MAX which can rip to FLAC and MP3 at the same time (sort of Mareo style). I'd then import the MP3's into itunes for my IPOD synchronisation and copy the FLAC files over to the server. (Which to complicate things further will now run Xubuntu and not Win2000). Then all I need is to scan for Replaygain on the FLAC files on the server and hopefully use the iVolume plugin within Itunes as I don't think MAX has any replaygain functionality built in. I will probably use Foobar's convert function to deal with the FLAC files I've currently got. I've read that MAX is not as good as EAC for ripping but if it's 70% as good then I'll use the PC for the duff discs (I buy quite a bit from Amazon Marketplace!), but if the Macbook is dead slow then I'm not sure what I'll do. I'm even contemplating ditching XP on the workstation as Xubuntu looks interesting, but have other PC only (that I know) tasks that I might want to accomplish. Thanks. -- sdevans sdevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Bufallo Media NAS
It seems it only comes with Itunes server as standard. It has a Marvell Media processor: Anyone familiar with it? Hope someone takes it apart soon, so that we may see the innards and really understand what it is made of Giacomo -- gbruzzo gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Bufallo Media NAS
gbruzzo;171150 Wrote: It has a Marvell Media processor: Anyone familiar with it? Marvell acquired the Intel XScale technology last year, so it's likely to be one of those. They implement the ARM instruction set, but are internally different and were commonly used in PDAs and one or two high end phones. So it won't be stunningly fast, but is low power. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Bufallo Media NAS
Xscale processor can run as fast as 1GHz but in NAS systems, they tend to run around 200-400MhZ so not very fast. The ARM architecture is used in NSLU2 so Slimserver will be able to run on the system as long as somebody can hack it and install something like Optware. The most critical factor will be amount of RAM - there is a possibility that the version which come with a media server installed has more RAM but that needs to be investigated. Some details on terastation can be found here. http://www.terastation.org/wiki/TS-HTGL -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
DrNic;171145 Wrote: Oooh yes please, one in Europe would be great!!:)Nic Ideally the UK! MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: The End Of Each Song Is Cut Off On Playback
i'm suffering from this bug as well, with a combination of apple lossless, aac and mp3s. the cut-offs seem to vary in length according to the format i'm streaming in - alac flac cuts off around 6 seconds before the end of a sample track, alac wav cuts off with 3 seconds to go, and alac mp3 cuts off a good 15 seconds before the end. i'm currently using SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11004 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 and have noticed a number of threads and bug reports along similar lines but without apparent resolution. i'm in touch with slim support but have had no substantive reply as yet. anyone got any ideas for further troubleshooting or workarounds? -- bodajmac bodajmac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9573 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31755 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 rebooting very frequently
Any chance there's an IP address conflict? It's been known to cause crashes, and it's the only thing I can think of that might affect one SB3 and not the others. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
NauticusLX;170346 Wrote: Slimpy, give me your phone number. Id like to call you to wake you in the middle of the night. That is, unless you think that would be annoying. If you call me everytime my local slimserver goes down at night I would really appreciate it. However if you call me for no reason at all I will sue you. And don't expect me to pick up the phone. A ringing phone or door bell is only a minor disturbance and happens quite frequently. Maybe I should think about sueing my phone company for that. Oh, and make sure you get the time zone right when you call. ;-) -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: CD Player like display for SB3 / TP ?
Looks to be just what I was wantingoff to get the plugin and play :-) Thanks Richard -- magnanimous magnanimous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8977 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31732 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Clean up music collection
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 12:55:29AM -0800, CCRDude wrote: Picard is better then through using a newer algorithm than TRM (TRMs often have a dozen matches), but even uglier to use ;) But for singles Picard can't create album clusters, and the singles seem to generate quite a few hits in the lookup as well. I'd probably spend much more time trying to automate this than just manually fix the tags... ;) -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: First attempt at synchronized playback - disaster!
I think it transcodes to LAME, if I'm not mistaken. I had the same problem with TP and SB3 and had to set the SB3 to limit @ 320k. Solved all my problems!! I could tell it was wireless bandwidth, especially, when I'd open up my Powerbook to 'surf' a bit while listening. This ALWAYS made the wireless SB3 stutter. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with internet radio
hi - did you get this sorted? sounds exactly like my problem. -- pgalore2k pgalore2k's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 rebooting very frequently
seanadams;171177 Wrote: Any chance there's an IP address conflict? It's been known to cause crashes, and it's the only thing I can think of that might affect one SB3 and not the others. Thanks for the reply - but no chance of an ip address conflict. Any other ideas? Michael -- msui772 msui772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Itunes / FLAC Strategy anyone?
dSw wrote: For what its worth, I use Anapod Explorer to convert from FLAC to MP3 on the fly. It offers a drag and drop interface to iPods (and other devices) and means that I don't need iTunes installed. It also supports playlists. Takes 3-5 minutes to copy a CD over but it means that I don't need to maintain a parallel library of MP3s. Looks like a nice program. If I had an iPod I would have had to consider it seriously. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
gusi;170766 Wrote: Is the N800 going to be avaiable in Australia and Asia? Or Canada, for that matter? Although we can get it indirectly through tigerdirect.ca, which is just a Canadian web storefront for tigerdirect.com (US). The price looks bad, but it's a $30 premium over straight exchange - which is at least what you'd pay in duties. Now that I can get it without having to import it my interest is fueled. Can't afford it as a Slim Devices remote, so it would have to be multipurpose. I'd love to be able to use it as an auto GPS along with Maemo Mapper but (a) my Dell Axim X31 is still working fine for this and (b) I can't figure out how Maemo Mapper gets its maps! It uses JPGs from Google Maps or something? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes / FLAC Strategy anyone?
Is there a specific reason why you're tied to iTunes? The only reason I can think of is if you purchase music from the iTunes store. If that's the case, then the options above are a good bet. However, if you're not tied to the iTunes store, then a second option is to get Parallels and run JRiver Media Center. JRMC can handle FLAC, do secure ripping like EAC, manage your iPod, and stream to a Squeezebox. It's a more expensive solution, but it sounds like a much simpler option than trying to maintain duplicate sync'd libraries. -- Jonathan DA Jonathan DA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9706 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fast Forwarding not working. Ideas?
Thanks ceejay, unchecking AIFF - FLAC did the trick. It didn't FF or REW very smoothly and so I've decided it really isn't a high priority, so I think I'll just stick with Apple Lossless with no FF/REW ability. Just to experiment, I also unchecked Apple Lossless - FLAC to see what would happen and as expected FF and REW still didn't work with Apple Lossless files but there was also a noticable pop between tracks. So I've returned everything back to the way it was and all is well again. Life is full of compromises! Thanks again. -- USAudio SB3 - PS Audio Trio C-100 - Revel Concerta F12's USAudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8580 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31740 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
Mark Lanctot;171216 Wrote: I can't figure out how Maemo Mapper gets its maps! It uses JPGs from Google Maps or something? Actually the Google Maps files are .PNG format even though Maemo Mapper saves them with a .JPG extension. MM works with street and topo maps from Google, USGS topography from Terraserver, and other compatible sources. Check the www.internettablettalk.com forums. You can keep multiple libraries stored and switch among them. There's a built-in interface for downloading maps in advance by area (latitude/longitude range) or route, at user specified zoom levels. With a mobile data connection, you can also download automatically on the fly. Way cool... this is a killer app! -- jpj jpj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Accessing other iTunes music folders - Mac
Hi, I read in the Squeezebox documentation that you can place an alias to another music library folder in the main library. I created an alias to another library, but the folder did not appear in either the squeezebox browser or on the device itself. Does anyone have suggestions? -- gls gls's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9707 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31764 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with internet radio
I got this from the paris jazz station today. Never happened before. -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] fairplay opening up?
Anybody know if there's any truth to this? http://ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/report-apple-to-open-up-fairplay-drm-to-accessory-makers/ It would be nice to play my itune purchases -- glug glug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5902 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
Will Slim try to be one of the companies allowed to access fairplay? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
jpj;171225 Wrote: Actually the Google Maps files are .PNG format even though Maemo Mapper saves them with a .JPG extension. MM works with street and topo maps from Google, USGS topography from Terraserver, and other compatible sources. Check the www.internettablettalk.com forums. You can keep multiple libraries stored and switch among them. There's a built-in interface for downloading maps in advance by area (latitude/longitude range) or route, at user specified zoom levels. With a mobile data connection, you can also download automatically on the fly. Way cool... this is a killer app! I like the idea that the maps are always current. However I've got to see how many maps I'd have to download for, say, a 6-hour trip. It'll depend on the resolution it needs, but at street-level resolution it would take hundreds of maps and GB of storage space. If it was highway-level, with detailed street-level at the origin and destination, it may be workable. However you're screwed if you get lost and don't have a street-level map of that particular area... The mobile data connection is useless here. There just aren't that many unsecured wireless connections to always guarantee you have one, and there are very few community-wide wireless projects in the works here. The ones that are aren't free and require logging into a web page. As this is getting OT, I'll look elsewhere if I want to investigate further. Thanks. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
I think you should take this with the big grain of salt most Apple rumors require. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
2 of my fantasies: Itunes ALAC dowloads No DRM on ALAC downloads As they say in Spain De ilusion tan bien se vive how well one lives with illusion -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Itunes / FLAC Strategy anyone?
BTW as you all work through this frustrating process, don't forget to also petition apple: http://flac.sourceforge.net/itunes.html Josh Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
I agree I don't think this is likely...at least in a big way. I would however love to have the ability to use the few files I bought from them on my Squeezebox. I would buy more if I could use them on it. -- schalliol schalliol's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
Why would Apple do this for Slim/Logitech? I bet iTunes tracks play really well on AppleTV, why would they allow the Squeezebox to compete with them? That certainly doesn't sound like Apple... -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
key thing: ...to licensed iPod accessory makers so, who thinks squeezebox is an ipod accessory? Why not wait until it's not a rumour to start stretching the reality. -k -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
schalliol;171244 Wrote: I would however love to have the ability to use the few files I bought from them on my Squeezebox. I would buy more if I could use them on it. Burn them to an audio format CDR (or CDRW if you don't want to waste blanks) - the licensing allows you to do this. Then rip them back in whatever non-DRM'd format you like. A bit of a pain, but it's do-able. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
cliveb;171258 Wrote: Burn them to an audio format CDR (or CDRW if you don't want to waste blanks) - the licensing allows you to do this. Then rip them back in whatever non-DRM'd format you like. A bit of a pain, but it's do-able. You mean rip them back in whatever *lossless* non-DRM'd format you like or you will further diminish the sound quality, converting that 128k AAC into the equivalent of a 96k or lower but still taking the disc space of a 128k -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote control programming
Hello! Hopefully I'm not completely off topic with my question regarding the remote control function of the Squeezebox (v3). Actually I'd like to use the Squeezebox in my CD shop as a listening station and therefore I'm searching for a remote control that only supports the most essential functions (such as PLAY, PAUSE, REW, FWD) or a remote which I can programme so that only certain keys are active (if the keys are more than the desired functions). Do you have any experience in programming infrared remotes for controlling the Squeezebox? Are there any support files by Slim Devices? Best regards, Alexander -- Alexander Lustig Alexander Lustig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31770 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
kdf;171249 Wrote: key thing: ...to licensed iPod accessory makers Not to get anyone's hope up, but we are already a licensed iPod accessory maker: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN/,crid=2414,contentid=10785 However, the rumor makes no sense. Why would an iPod _accessory_ need to decode FairPlay? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
Also, TFA suggests that licensed devices might soon be able to access song title and artist info through the docking connector... but they can already do that! (TuneView does it, for example) -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SoftSqueeze and Internet Radio
Internet Radio works fine on my Transporter and Squeezebox. I just tried playing it via SoftSqueeze for the first time, and during the Checking Stream phase, Slimserver popped up the error can't find WMVCore.DLL. I thought that SoftSqueeze just looked like another Squeezebox to Slimserver, but clearly something different is happening. Can anyone shed some light on this? Software versions: Slimserver 6.5.1 running under Win2K SP4. Softsqueeze 3.2, Java 1.5.0_06, running under Win2K SP3. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
snarlydwarf;171267 Wrote: You mean rip them back in whatever *lossless* non-DRM'd format you like or you will further diminish the sound quality, converting that 128k AAC into the equivalent of a 96k or lower but still taking the disc space of a 128k OK, I'm confused ( as usual). If you burn a 128 aac to disc and re-import at 128aac it's still 128, right? So it's still the same (bad) quality but at least not inferior to the original download. Or am I missing something? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
tomjtx wrote: snarlydwarf;171267 Wrote: You mean rip them back in whatever *lossless* non-DRM'd format you like or you will further diminish the sound quality, converting that 128k AAC into the equivalent of a 96k or lower but still taking the disc space of a 128k OK, I'm confused ( as usual). If you burn a 128 aac to disc and re-import at 128aac it's still 128, right? So it's still the same (bad) quality but at least not inferior to the original download. It's 2nd generation 128. You're encoding it twice with the resulting additional degradation of the sound. Analogy: record a CD to cassette, then record the cassette onto another cassette. The same principle applies. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
Mark Lanctot;171236 Wrote: I've got to see how many maps I'd have to download for, say, a 6-hour trip. It'll depend on the resolution it needs, but at street-level resolution it would take hundreds of maps and GB of storage space. I suspect you're overestimating the storage requirements. I'm populating a big SD card right now and will have a better grasp on data density shortly. -- jpj jpj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: fairplay opening up?
Thanks for clearing that up , Robin. So if it's re-imported ALAC or FLAC the sound is not degraded but you are using FLAC size file for 128 sound quality? What a rip, so to speak. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] FF very rough
I'm using FLAC compressed to max level. Wired SqueezeBox 3. SlimServer running on Wired XP Laptop. FF is very rough. Sometimes it moves real slow, sometimes it moves so fast I'm on the next track. I noticed if I tap FF it goes to Next Track (is that by design). Why no Normal seperate button for FF and Next Track? Anything I can do? I'm running last nights 6.5.1 SlimServer Build. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31778 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SoftSqueeze and Internet Radio
WMA stream? Squeezebox decodes wma, but if you use softsqueeze the server needs to do it and assuming you are running windows it is able to do so as long as you have the relavent Microsoft components installed. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Bufallo Media NAS
Gathering some further info from http://forum.linkstationwiki.net/index.php?action=vthreadforum=15topic=1926 It looks like new Buffalo products will be based upon ARM architecture. The Terastation live possibly on ARM11 http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/families/ARM11Family.html Can't get an idea of the clocks, then again I did not read the threads in too great a detail. Cheers, Giacomo -- gbruzzo gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Dummy Question: 6.5.1 nightly == Beta 7.0?
Sorry if this is a dumb question. But are there 2 branches running. 6.5.1 and 7.0? I can only find 6.5.1 which is a freshly built nightly. But I see talk of 7.0 features. Do I have to build 7.0 or are there kits for both? I'm running on XP platform. Thanks. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31782 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dummy Question: 6.5.1 nightly == Beta 7.0?
Quoting mswlogo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry if this is a dumb question. But are there 2 branches running. 6.5.1 and 7.0? I can only find 6.5.1 which is a freshly built nightly. But I see talk of 7.0 features. Do I have to build 7.0 or are there kits for both? I'm running on XP platform. 7.0 is the subversion trunk, undergoing massive rework from developers. There are builds, but no web page links because it is NOT for mass consumption. If you wish to take on 7.0, please ONLY do so if you are interested in helping with the rework, or supplying patches. There is too much work to be done to get tied down into How do I do this?/Why doesn't this work in today's build support. The best way to get 7.0 is by using svn (http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html), so that you can get every change and every deletion. Be aware that things will break, and may not get instantly fixed just because someone yells loudly in the forums. As for fancy new features that you just have to have: there are none in 7.0. There are wishlists, but nothing else beyond backend improvements for stability and maintenance. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is firmware open source?
mswlogo;171298 Wrote: Is the firmware open source or just SlimServer. Just SlimServer. If firmware is not open source are bugs still filed on the opensource BugZilla database? Yes, they are. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Andy, you seemed to suggest that it would be possible to have a separate brightness setting just for the downtime messages, when you said earlier that You can change the brightness of the downtime message I take it that this will not actually be a separate functionality. Anyway, it seems that various displays, while logged onto SqueezeNetwork, each have their own brightness level (which is itself kind of peculiar). For example, if I set the brightness while a song title is displayed, then another brightness level in the main menu, these 2, different, brightness levels are retained for the respective displays. So, while connected to the SqueezeNetwork, what should be displayed on the SqueezeBox screen while I set the brightness to 0, so that it will not display a downtime message from SqueezeNetwork while in standby? But I also noticed that when the display is set to 0 before going into standby, that it is reset to 1 when turned back on. So Id have to remember to reset it to 0 before turning off, every time.Ironically, it might be easier (to avoid having system messages displayed while in standby) if I just logged of SqueezeNetwork every night by choosing the Connect to SlimServer from the main menu (at which point it would be logged onto neither server). And why is it that, as you said on 1/17, there will always be a need for that kind of downtime message. Does Slim Devices realize that a SqueezeBox that is in standby is, from the standpoint of the user and for all practical purposes, turned off, and that the user doesnt need to be made aware of the status of the SqueezeNetwork? I think thats intrusive. If I walk by the turned off device during the day, and its displaying a message, quite frankly thats spooky. Its distracting! Whats the point? It is more than sufficient that I become aware of server problems when I turn the device on. I would expect the logic to be: if the SqueezeBox is in standby, dont display any messages (brightness = 0). Why is this concept so hard to grasp? How difficult would this be to implement? -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Your logic of displaying brightness 0 even if your powered off brightness setting is not 0 is flawed. If my players are powered off and I walk by them, I expect to see the time. If I don't, I immediately assume my internet connection is dead (or there has been a horrible SN crash) and go to investigate. If I instead see the downtime message, I would know what's going on and that I still have an internet connection. Brightness within SN should function exactly as it does on SlimServer. It's just the downtime service that's a special case. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wake-on-Lan and Sleeping
Have you enabled the plugin Windows: Prevent System Standby While Playing? Technically, I don't think that sending WOL packets will prevent the computer from entering standby - although it will probably mean it wakes right back up. I haven't looked at the code but I assume that SlimServer (as described by Microsoft) listens for a certain Windows message that is broadcast internally prior to entering standby for which SlimServer should respond with a deny message. -- bergek Transporter - Squeezebox 3 - Serener GS-L02 - Via EPIA SP8000 - Ubuntu 6.06 Server bergek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31781 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
NauticusLX;171309 Wrote: Why is this concept so hard to grasp? How difficult would this be to implement? If you don't want your display device to show server messages, then don't leave it connected to the server. Why is THAT so hard to grasp? -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Remote control programming
Rather than tackle this exclusively on the remote control side, I think you could more thoroughly prevent unwanted button actions by editing the IR/*.ir (and possibly IR/*.map) files so that SlimServer will not recognize other button presses. Go to the web interface for SlimServer and look at Technical Information / Button Mapping for more details. The .ir/.map approach should thwart anyone who happens to have something on their person that can send Slim or JVC DVD IR codes -- except probably the special hold functions of the Power (reboot), Brightness (firmware update), Add (factory reset), and Left-arrow (setup) buttons, as those are certainly programmed into the firmware of the Squeezebox. I think a foolproof solution would involve something like - physically mounting the SB with its IR port blocked so that the firmware would never see any IR codes and - using one of the $7 IR blaster transceiver modules and using (modifying?) the IR Blaster plugin so that only the desired buttons are passed to SlimServer but I'm not sure, as I don't have an IR blaster dongle myself. -Peter -- peterw peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31770 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim.exe crashes
Do you have SlimServer running as a service or through SlimTray? If you have it running as a service I believe there's a way to specify startup parameters. However on mine the dialog box indicates the startup parameters are only used when the service is started from the Services dialog box. Also I see a path but it's not editable. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31737 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SoftSqueeze and Internet Radio
Triode;171294 Wrote: WMA stream? Squeezebox decodes wma, but if you use softsqueeze the server needs to do it and assuming you are running windows it is able to do so as long as you have the relavent Microsoft components installed. Aha! Yes, I believe the station I was trying to listen to uses WMA. And my Slimserver machine certainly doesn't have Windows Media Player installed, which I presume is the simplest way to acquire the necessary decoding engine. Thanks for showing me the light. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WiFi frustration! (But happy ending... for now)
I would suggest taking a look at http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkProblemsSecondGuide and the wireless tweaks suggested there, particularly NetStumbler. Brian Ritchie;171076 Wrote: One change I made a few days ago (after a particularly annoying flurry of failures) was to switch the wireless router from channel 11 to 13; for a while I thought that'd cracked it; but no. (I'll have to change channel again tomorrow, for I need to work from home, but my stupid work laptop's internal card is triskadecaphobic.) This is probably a regional thing - channels 12-13 are licensed in Europe/UK but not in North America. See if there's a new wireless driver for the laptop and make sure you download it from a UK site or somehow indicate you're from the UK. Incidentally, I strongly suspect this is why the Squeezebox asks you what region you're in when you're setting it up. Using channel 13 in North America would ensure virtually no competing networks, but your router firmware would have to cooperate and you'd have to lie to your Squeezebox. Lying is not a good way to start a relationship. ;-) -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Pale Blue Ego;171322 Wrote: Why is THAT so hard to grasp? Brightness == zero. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Remote control programming
Peter, your approach is most useful. I'll try to work on the .ir/.map files. Thank you very much, Alexander -- Alexander Lustig Alexander Lustig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31770 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim.exe crashes
Hi Mark Yes, initially/by default it is via SlimTray when I log into XP, however it crashes after about 15 minutes. If I then right click ST and select 'start slimserver' it will restart but again crashes after about 15 minutes or so. I've tried going into services.msc and manually entering the --noupnp into the SlimServer service but, as you say, it is only valid from that dialogue box and you cant edit the path. hmmm... I might PM the person in the other thread and see if (s)he found a resolution. Ta Wah -- benwah benwah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31737 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wes Phillips gets Transported to audio nirvana
There's a major test and review of the Transporter in the Feb '07 issue of Stereophile. I haven't read the whole thing, but it looks like a complete rave review. Phillips was taken by the sound quality, and also by the incredible flexibility, extensibility, and customization options available. Between Slim Devices' own canny programming and its users' network of open-source programmers, you can personalize it to a greater degree than almost any other device I have encountered. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Mac Flac and music management necessary?
I'm weening myself from iTunes, converting my files from ALAC to FLAC, and wonder if I should use a music manager to organize my collection? is it even necessary? Is there a music manager available to manage FLAC on a Mac? An example, I have 6 Aerosmith CD's. iTunes will put all CD's in a within one Aerosmith folder, then labeling each CD. Is this important? Thanks, Mark -- yooper yooper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Then there seem to be 2 types of users: those who have the SB in their bedrooms, and therefore more likely to prefer a blank screen when turned off, and those who have the SB in their living rooms, where concern with a blank screen might never exist. You are one kind, I the other. Andy, expand the logic to be if SqueezeBox is in standby AND theres no screensaver turned on, then dont display any message (brightness=0). ** OR, is it possible, as you seemed to describe in no uncertain terms earlier, to have a separate brightness setting just for the downtime messages, which the user could access via their SqueezeBox website? Pale Blue Ego, the concepts are obscured by the fact that the device never actually turns off, plus the bias AndyG has to always have something displayed on his own SB this is a bias that was just discovered by those reading this thread. Andys bias, which seems to strongly influence the design of the SqueezeBox, runs counter to the notion that OFF MEANS OFF! No one seems to understand that this personal bias of Andys has the effect of waking some users up in the middle of the night for no good reason! Such a circumstance should be impossible. There needs to be a fail-safe installed to prevent this from happening. Its a buzz-kill. And it cant simply be argued that, well, Im in the minority, assuming thats the case. It should be possible to turn the device completely off, easily, without going through some weird, unintuitive ritual of hand movements or finger tapings, and its very odd that the designer of this device intends that it never be off! Its a very eccentric approach to the design which I still havent seen justified, and whatever problem is avoided by this strategy isnt as big as the problem its causing. The suggestion to have a separate brightness setting for the downtime messages would provide an unambiguous and carefree solution to this problem such is the basis for any truly successful consumer good. Whats strange is that even though this was Andys own idea, he now seems to be arguing against it. This aspect of the design of the SqueezeBox is flawed, for the important reasons Ive stated. If its not possible to specifically set the brightness of the downtime messages to 0, so the user isn't startled or awoken at times when the user intends the device to be off, such as when sleeping - and the user has every right to have and express such an intention - then it needs an off switch (like pressing and holding the red button). -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
NauticusLX;171373 Wrote: Then there seem to be 2 types of users: those who have the SB in their bedrooms, and therefore more likely to prefer a blank screen when turned off, and those who have the SB in their living rooms, where concern with a blank screen might never exist. You are one kind, I the other. 3 types... some of us have SB's in both the living room and bedroom. Andys bias, which seems to strongly influence the design of the SqueezeBox, runs counter to the notion that OFF MEANS OFF! The Squeezebox and Squeezenetwork and the behavior of them predate Andy working for Slim then it needs an off switch (like pressing and holding the red button). And how would you turn it back on? hint: if it is actually off, it isn't looking at the IR detector, and therefore it won't turn on by either IR or network activity. The method to turn it on, therefore, can not require IR or network activity. This isn't that odd of a deal: I have several machines that I can't really turn off unless I yank the power from them. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Why are we still having this discussion? OK I will try to restate what I've done, maybe it'll click this time. What I've done with the downtime service is that it actually doesn't care what your 3 brightness settings are, or even if your player was on or off, it will simply use *whatever the last brightness state of your player was*. So if it was off with brightness 0, you won't see a thing. This will make most people happy, but just in case, I also added 2 completely *unrelated* things to the downtime service: the ability to use the brightness button as you'd expect, and the ability to hit the power button to blank the display to brightness 0. As others have said the most failsafe way to avoid the server being able to do anything to your player is to disconnect from said server, by holding the left arrow key for several seconds or by choosing Connect to SlimServer from the SN menu. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Contemplating a new SB setup with some existing powered speakers, tonight I broke out the Kill-a-watt power meter. I wanted to see how much power the speakers use in their automatic standby mode, to determine if I should hook them up to an X-10 module and use BottleRocket to control their power. While I was at it, I decided to measure the power usage of my Squeezebox2 (which should be the same as a Squeezebox3). Caveat: the kill-a-watt display rounds to the nearest watt, so it's not great for measuring very small changes for low-draw devices like the Squeezebox. The lowest power draw was attained by having the Squeezebox idle (on or off, as long as it's not playing an audio stream) with the brightness set so the display was completely dark. This took 4 watts (US adapter, ~120v AC power, and yes, watts, not volt-amps). I tried disabling the wireless bridging and having the audio outputs disabled when the Squeezebox was off, but it still pulled 4 watts when idle and dark. Playing a stream with the display on and the visualizer active (the Now Playing screen, or any screen where the visualizer displayed on the right side or behind the text) pulled 6 watts. Playing a stream with a static display (no visualizer), or the display dark used 5 watts. So did having a static display (no visualizer) with the player idle (off or on with no stream playing). I didn't see any difference in power usage with the display set at different brightness levels -- any light emission led to a 5 watt demand, and any visualizer use during led to a 6 watt demand during playback. Among other things, this suggests to me that if you want to save energy with something like PowerSave (http://ultratrendy.com:31888/slim/), you should be sure that you have the display set to be dark when off. -Peter -- peterw peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
snarlydwarf wrote: NauticusLX;171373 Wrote: Then there seem to be 2 types of users: those who have the SB in their bedrooms, and therefore more likely to prefer a blank screen when turned off, and those who have the SB in their living rooms, where concern with a blank screen might never exist. You are one kind, I the other. 3 types... some of us have SB's in both the living room and bedroom. 4 types... I have SBs in the living room and bedroom; I keep both screens lit, but I stand the remote control on its side in front of the display (SB1) in the bedroom before I go to sleep. -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: FF very rough
If you hold the FWD button for a few seconds it should begin to play at 2x, then 4x, then 8x, etc etc. If you tap the FWD button it will skip to the next song, yes this is by design. This seems intuitive to me. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +1.650.210.9400 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31778 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Bill Burns wrote: snarlydwarf wrote: NauticusLX;171373 Wrote: Then there seem to be 2 types of users: those who have the SB in their bedrooms, and therefore more likely to prefer a blank screen when turned off, and those who have the SB in their living rooms, where concern with a blank screen might never exist. You are one kind, I the other. 3 types... some of us have SB's in both the living room and bedroom. 4 types... I have SBs in the living room and bedroom; I keep both screens lit, but I stand the remote control on its side in front of the display (SB1) in the bedroom before I go to sleep. 10 types - those who understand the base 2 number system, and those who don't R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
NauticusLX, After reading all your posts I think you should consider the fact that you may need a therapist more than a squeezebox :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Andy, upon consideration, these things that you claim to have done dont seem to address the problem, since they, 2 of them anyway, only provide steps to take AFTER the downtime message is already displayed. If you explained your strategies more completely, maybe that would help. Also, there is not a single brightness state of my player, rather, there are several. So Ill ask again: While connected to the SqueezeNetwork, what should be displayed on the SqueezeBox screen while I set the brightness to 0, so that it will not display a downtime message from SqueezeNetwork while in standby? (I'm afraid this might not work as a solution, since it will require me to always be setting and resetting the brightness, so I can read it when I want to and be off otherwise.) Ftlight, I use similar techniques to cover lit displays on other devices in my bedroom, to be sure. I even have a piece of paper taped over the on light of my PC, but its not in a highly visible part of the bedroom, so I dont care. The various other glows are either too faint to bother me, diffused by my near-sightedness, or arent in my line of sight as with the SB, which is on a shelf at the other end of the room, a very appropriate location in other regards. Plus I know what these other lights are, and none of them are alerting me with a timely message, for petes sake. Maybe Im just too preoccupied with finding an elegant solution to this problem, befitting the SB itself. Maybe Ill just end up pressing the red button and draping a piece of thick cloth over the top of the SB, I just dont trust strategies that involve complex finger tappings - that defeats the ease and simplicity of the red button. It seems those of us who have the devices in our bedrooms, strategically placed in our line of sight, but who need pitch black to sleep, are at a disadvantage.At this point I have a few options, Ill just work with them. Maybe Andy can explain in detail how I can set the brightness control, that might work. -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
I give up... -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Oh Tomtjx. The SqueezeBox is my therapist! Definitely. Jazz, to be more exact! I shall, ultimately, resign myself to the inevitable. What are your favorite urls? -- NauticusLX NauticusLX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
On 17-Jan-07, at 7:28 PM, NauticusLX wrote: how I can set the brightness control, that might work. 1. find remote 2. hold remote firmly in hand 3. find red button 4. press gently 5. locate button labelled brightness 6. press gently 7. observe player display 8. repeat steps 7 and 8 until desired brightness level is observed 9. walk away consider step 9 for this thread as well. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure power. Power = V * A (for DC). This can be done accurately with any multimeter that has a current mode. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
andyg;171104 Wrote: We have plans to add additional data centers, but there will always be a need for that kind of downtime message. andyg Wrote: What I've done with the downtime service is that it actually doesn't care what your 3 brightness settings are, or even if your player was on or off, it will simply use whatever the last brightness state of your player was. So if it was off with brightness 0, you won't see a thing. Note to NauticusLX: Andy fixed your problem. In about 48 hours. Proof that no good deed goes unpunished. Downtime is unavoidable -- and some people even appreciate messages when the system is down. You don't, so set your brightness to 0, and you won't see them. Not even if you're wide awake and staring at the display. Take a deep breath and try to let that sink in. If it still doesn't click, try the decaf. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
NauticusLX;171396 Wrote: Also, there is not a single brightness state of my player, rather, there are several. So I#8217;ll ask again: While connected to the SqueezeNetwork, what should be displayed on the SqueezeBox screen while I set the brightness to 0, so that it will not display a downtime message from SqueezeNetwork while in standby? (I'm afraid this might not work as a solution, since it will require me to always be setting and resetting the brightness, so I can read it when I want to and be off otherwise.) You seem to be getting confused by the different brightness states. There are three brightness states: on, standby, and idle. The one you care about is the standby setting. Set the brightness to 0 while the player is in standby (what you might call off) and every time you turn your squeezebox to standby (off) the display will be dark, and, per Andy's changes, will stay dark, even if system maintenance messages are delivered. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
Ok lets see here, I've got my favorite hammer and my autographed bat, now where did I put that dead horse... -- wr420 wr420's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Dummy Question: 6.5.1 nightly == Beta 7.0?
Understood. Thanks for the reply. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31782 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wake-on-Lan and Sleeping
No, I have not enabled that plugin. Strange it's staying up tonight but shutdown in the middle last night. I'll check out the plugin. Thanks. Edited: Oops, just checked and it was already enabled by default. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31781 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] IR poweron codes in Standby vs Wake-On-Lan different?
I have a Harmony 880 and set it up such that it has Descrete PowerOn and PowerOff codes and works all fine and dandy. However, if my SlimServer goes to sleep the Display on the SqueezeBox goes black (which is fine). But the Harmony PowerOn code will not wake it up. But the Toggle Power will on the orginal remote. Is this a bug, shouldn't Wake-On-Lan-Standby response to either toggle power or power_on? Can this be worked around by edited the IR table on the server? I might be able to create a psuedo device on Harmony that is included in the Music Server activity that sends out toggle power. But controlling order gets messy. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Screensaver settings are reset when restarting SlimServer 6.5.0
Oh yeah, I looked in /tmp/slimserver.log - no errors or warnings there. -- scratchy scratchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5236 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31795 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Screensaver settings are reset when restarting SlimServer 6.5.0
This isn't a known issue thus far. check server settings-performance-prefs write interval. If you shut down in less time than this interval, it may not have saved. turn on d_prefs debugging to get info on any prefs write problems. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Screensaver settings are reset when restarting SlimServer 6.5.0
Oh, thanks for the tip! I poked around a little, and found the problem: ownership of /etc/slimserver.conf was root:root instead of slimserver:slimserver for some reason. However, I think that the behavior of SlimServer was inadequate in this case: - it allowed changed when it knew the changes couldn't be saved, - it logged zero error/warning about failing to write conf file. Thanks. -- scratchy scratchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5236 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31795 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes / FLAC Strategy anyone?
Only contemplating tying myself to itunes as I'm interested in the whole integrated iLife thing. Mainly for my wife, as I want her to get involved this time, rather than it be my little project stuck upstairs on the computer. I personally will probably never buy anything off itunes, though I will ask for Flac support! Thanks. -- sdevans sdevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden wrote: Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure power. Power = V * A (for DC). That wouldn't measure any power used by the power supply itself (ever wondered where that heat comes from?) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
