Out of Commision Awile
When I downloaded the latest Version of GitHub Desktop after a System Restore, I found that you can no longer set Writer as the default editor. I have had to download GitforWindows and have never used it before so will will have to take a crash course with the Pro Git Handbook to get started with interfacing with it. I will try to make it as quick as I can getting up to snuff and back working. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ping Francis
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Keith, If you made the mess using GitHub, you can revert git changes. You might have to do several, but there should be some way to get back to a clean point. Actually, no I cannot. I had to areset my system, therebye losing all my applications except what came installed on the system. That is how I noticed the problem in the first place. Because of that, I can no longer revert the changes from GitHub. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [I] AOO41CG01 Ready for Next Revies. [openoffice-docs]
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #137: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/137#issuecomment-1960535325 Keith - since you found several instances of the wrong paragraph style in text preceding a list, I think I should go through the other chapters and fix that error. Let me know if you agree and that you will hold off on editing other chapters so we don't end up with conflicting edits. That sounds likw=e a very good idea.Francis. For now I will concentrate on ghetting the Writer Guidebook compiled and it and the chapters published to the wiki. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO4116 missing all cross-references
Francis; AOO41WG16 came through fine. ODT documents have always come through to the lists. I hope that you fell better soon. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, The version in my local repository also has all the cross references broken. I do have a version stored separately that seems to have the cross references intact. I can't swear that it is exactly up to date with the latest version of the document but you can use it as a guide to what the references pointed at. I'll try to attach it to this message, though I believe that attachments are usually stripped out. I'll send it to your private email if it doesn't make it. I've been sick the last couple of days and I'm still not fully recovered. That's why it took me a while to respond to your message. I'll upload chapter 7 of the Writer guide as soon as I have enough energy to do a final check. Franics On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net>> wrote: Ping Francis. I started reviewing your last pass on AOO41WG16.odt, and all of the cross-references are missing from the document.I think it might have been a bad download. Can you please check the copy in your fork, and make sure it is okay? Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO4116 missing all cross-references
Ping Francis. I started reviewing your last pass on AOO41WG16.odt, and all of the cross-references are missing from the document.I think it might have been a bad download. Can you please check the copy in your fork, and make sure it is okay? Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
How to delete blank pages in writer
Greetings all; I am having a problem in Writer deleting blan pages. I am getting ready to compile the full writer book and have a problem with one of the files. Because the book has to be compiled manually because of an outstanding bug, the TOC and all front matter must be deleted form each chapter file from the file. when I do that on one chapter, i end up with 3 blank pages at the end or the file that just not delete no matter what I try. Cann anyone give me a pointer as to to remove them? Thanks in advance Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Impress guide
F Campos Costero wrote: I'm going to start working on the Impress guide. The big items are replacing the outdated images and incorporating appropriate references to the Sidebar. I hope Michele will then be able to edit the text. The Calc guide has already been fully edited by Michele and I have reviewed those changes and updated the front matter. There is surely more to do, because these things are never really done, but we reached a good stopping point. Regards, Francis That sounds like the perfect plan. I will be starting on compiling the complete book of the Writer Guide, as well as reviewing the Calc files. Thanks to you, Michele, and Digro for your work on these. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [I] AOO41WG10 Ready for 3rd Review [openoffice-docs]
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC closed issue #126: AOO41WG10 Ready for 3rd Review URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/126 I finished with Chapter 10 and it is ready to publish. To answer your question on the Publication date. That date is the date that it is published to the Wiki. Once that date is known it should be filled in. Until then it will show as . Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [I] AOO41WG10 Ready for 3rd Review [openoffice-docs]
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #126: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/126#issuecomment-1871501951 I think we have gotten tangled up here. Issue 118, which is closed, was opened on 2023-12-18 and it was a review of chapter 10. There are then commits on the 18th and the 20th after I and Michele accepted Keith's changes and made some more edits. Here is the git log of those. > commit 5336d2149344969cb119cf17a31ac779388b3629 > Author: Francis > Date: Wed Dec 20 16:16:12 2023 -0700 > > AOO41WG410...odt Edited by Michele, reviewed by FJCC > > commit 7bc935b0bbd0b857991cee6c7a16e86ccd8f1aeb > Author: Francis > Date: Mon Dec 18 15:59:08 2023 -0700 > > AOO41WG410...odt accept Keith's edits + a few corrections The latest commit, ba4a1b3, seems to have the version of chapter 10 that went into issue 118. If Keith can confirm that a mistake has been made, I can make a new commit with the version of chapter 10 that came out of issue 118, with Michele's edits. Yes there was a mistake there. Please re-commit. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Document footers
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, As Michele and I review the Writer Guide, I see that the content of the footers is not consistent. Instead of trying to deduce the correct pattern, I thought it better to ask. It seems that on the pages with the OOoPageStyle style, which is most of each chapter, the footer should have the chapter title (entered with a Chapter field, which gets its value from the paragraph with the OOoHeading 0 paragraph style) and the page number, separated with a |. Page numbers go on the outside margin. On the pages with the OOoFrontMatter page style, the footer has a Title field and page number, again separated with |. Pages with the styles OOoCopyright and OOoFirstPage do not have anything in the footer. Is that the right pattern? Regards, Francis Yes that is the correct pattern. if you look at those page styles the footers are turned off. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Problem with footer in AOO41WG11.odt
F Campos Costero wrote: I just looked at AOOWG4111-UsingMailMerge.odt from the Writer-Guide branch and I don't see that problem. I looked at my local copy that is up to date with the Writer-Guide branch on GitHub. Should I email my copy to your personal email? Yes please do that Francis. Much appreciated Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Problem with footer in AOO41WG11.odt
Greetings all; I am having a strange problem with the Footer in chapter 11 of the Writer Guide. The footer has page number field followed by a chapter field of type chapter number and name. Up to page 9 all is correct. From page 10 onwards it starts picking up random text from the page. and I cannot find a way to change it. Hopefully someone will have an idea of how to straighten it out. Any help would be greatly apprteciated. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New AOOdoc.ott
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I see you made a change to AOOdoc.ott. Is that ready for me to download the latest version or are more changes in the works? Regards, Francis Yes it is good to use. Needed to change OOoAuthor to have the proper next style. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New folder structure
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith - I see you made an OldNamingConvention folder in the Writer Guide and moved some files into it. Since this was done after my commits 887145d and d8e6530, I get the impression those commits caused some problems. I'm sorry if they did. All I meant to do is update my local repository with your most recent changes and then commit the latest edits to AOO41WG8.odt. I didn't touch any other files as far as I know. Did my commits cause a problem? Regards, Francis No there were no problems, I had just deleted all the older files that did not follow the new naming convention sas the were no longer needed. It was easier to remove them from the review folder into there own folder. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [I] Review of AOO41WG8 [openoffice-docs]
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #107: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/107#issuecomment-1811374184 Thanks, Keith! No problem Francis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [I] Review Writer Chapter 7 (AOO41WG7-Working with styles) [openoffice-docs]
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #106: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/106#issuecomment-1777683306 Hi Keith, I'll review the new versions of chapters 5 - 7 unless Michele wants to work on one or more of them. I just sent her a message to check with her. Regards, Francis Hi Francis; I am still in the process of of my review of chapter I will let the list know when I am done and will also a separate Issue anyone can assign them selves. If Michelle wants to work on any open issues you can assign it to her. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Back to documentation work
After multiple system problems and personal issues, I am back to work on documentation with an new Windows 11 Pro system. I will now be spending the bulk of my volunteer time on getting the initial Writer documents published. I am pleased to see that work is proceeding on the Calc Documents.As well as the work in publishing the Getting Started manual in mwiki format being pursued. Thank you all for the hard work you have put in to getting these long neglected documents revived. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help stripping front matter from chapter files
Jean Weber wrote: MD is a user-defined variable, which was inserted into the master document for the book. Jean Jean; If you could give a a brief rundown on how that variable is inserted into the master document it would be a great help in creating the full book. Regards Keith On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 06:18 F Campos Costero wrote: I noticed that in the Format -> Sections dialog that Section 1 is set to be hidden when MD != 0. I guess that MD somehow represents Master Document and that the section should be hidden if the document is part of a master document. I do not know whether MD is a user-defined variable or if it is a predefined. I will look into that but I have other things to do at the moment. Francis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help stripping front matter from chapter files
F Campos Costero wrote: On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:02 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 5:44 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Greetings all; As I am getting ready to start publishing some of the Writer Guide's chapter files I am running across a problem stripping the front matter from the files to be able to then combine them into the complete book. The problem is with the heading for the TOC. As it is not a part of the TOC, it has to be deleted separately. This can be done, but the page break cannot be deleted causing a blank page to remain between the chapter tittle and the the start of the text of the chapter. I foresee this creating havoc when it comes time to compile the complete book. Is there a way to delete this extra page, or will it be taken care of when creating the full book. Thanks in advance for any insight that you can Proved Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Hi Keith, I don't understand where the page break is coming from in the chapter I'm looking at. I'm using AOO41WG4. I see a hard page break between the ToC and the Introduction. I don't see one between the paragraph with the heading "Publication date and software version" and the heading for the ToC but something causes the ToC heading to be on a new page. Does that agree with what you see? What exactly do you delete to get the blank page? Should I be looking at another document? Francis Francis & Michele; Yes That is what I see. What I do to create that blank page is to first select the Toc Header and change the style to - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Ok, I made some progress. The key is that the page with the Copyright heading and the pages with the ToC are in section. Here is what I did on a copy of AOO41WG4. - Select the menu Format -> Sections. Select Section 1 on the left. That is the only section in this document but others may have more sections Click Options Set the background to red Click OK twice to get back to the document and confirm that the text I want to delete now has a red background. Go back to Format -> Sections. Pick Section 1. Click Remove. Click OK The red background is now gone and I can delete the text and ToC without generating a blank page. I noticed that in the Format -> Sections dialog that Section 1 is set to be hidden when MD != 0. I guess that MD somehow represents Master Document and that the section should be hidden if the document is part of a master document. I do not know whether MD is a user-defined variable or if it is a predefined. I will look into that but I have other things to do at the moment. Francis Thank you so much Francis. I will follow those directions and see how it all works out. Again, thank you so much! Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help stripping front matter from chapter files
F Campos Costero wrote: On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 5:44 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings all; As I am getting ready to start publishing some of the Writer Guide's chapter files I am running across a problem stripping the front matter from the files to be able to then combine them into the complete book. The problem is with the heading for the TOC. As it is not a part of the TOC, it has to be deleted separately. This can be done, but the page break cannot be deleted causing a blank page to remain between the chapter tittle and the the start of the text of the chapter. I foresee this creating havoc when it comes time to compile the complete book. Is there a way to delete this extra page, or will it be taken care of when creating the full book. Thanks in advance for any insight that you can Proved Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Hi Keith, I don't understand where the page break is coming from in the chapter I'm looking at. I'm using AOO41WG4. I see a hard page break between the ToC and the Introduction. I don't see one between the paragraph with the heading "Publication date and software version" and the heading for the ToC but something causes the ToC heading to be on a new page. Does that agree with what you see? What exactly do you delete to get the blank page? Should I be looking at another document? Francis Francis & Michele; Yes That is what I see. What I do to create that blank page is to first select the Toc Header and change the style to - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help stripping front matter from chapter files
F Campos Costero wrote: On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 5:44 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings all; As I am getting ready to start publishing some of the Writer Guide's chapter files I am running across a problem stripping the front matter from the files to be able to then combine them into the complete book. The problem is with the heading for the TOC. As it is not a part of the TOC, it has to be deleted separately. This can be done, but the page break cannot be deleted causing a blank page to remain between the chapter tittle and the the start of the text of the chapter. I foresee this creating havoc when it comes time to compile the complete book. Is there a way to delete this extra page, or will it be taken care of when creating the full book. Thanks in advance for any insight that you can Proved Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Hi Keith, I don't understand where the page break is coming from in the chapter I'm looking at. I'm using AOO41WG4. I see a hard page break between the ToC and the Introduction. I don't see one between the paragraph with the heading "Publication date and software version" and the heading for the ToC but something causes the ToC heading to be on a new page. Does that agree with what you see? What exactly do you delete to get the blank page? Should I be looking at another document? Francis Yes, that is what I am seeing. What needs to be done is to delete everything but the Chapter title and subtitle. To create that blank page I first select the TOC heading and change it to text body to remove the the bottom border, then select the copyright page and the entire TOC, then either cut or hit the delete key. Everything deletes but leaves a blank page between the tittle page and the start of the actual text. I have tried most everything I can think of to remove that blank page without success. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Need help stripping front matter from chapter files
Greetings all; As I am getting ready to start publishing some of the Writer Guide's chapter files I am running across a problem stripping the front matter from the files to be able to then combine them into the complete book. The problem is with the heading for the TOC. As it is not a part of the TOC, it has to be deleted separately. This can be done, but the page break cannot be deleted causing a blank page to remain between the chapter tittle and the the start of the text of the chapter. I foresee this creating havoc when it comes time to compile the complete book. Is there a way to delete this extra page, or will it be taken care of when creating the full book. Thanks in advance for any insight that you can Proved Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #102: AOO41WG4 Needs Review
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #102: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/102#issuecomment-1599616502 On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 12:24 PM Keith N. McKenna ***@***.***> wrote: > AOO41WG4 is ready for review. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/102>, or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACGKX6PYJZIGOPZPVGL4T3DXLXY6JANCNFSM6AAZKL7NU4> > . > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Hi Keith, I have reviewed AOO41WG4. I have not yet accepted your deletion of Figure 53 on page 49. Did you mean to delete that figure? I think the text is already very brief and it should be expanded if there will not be a figure. Regards, Francis Francis; That should be a deletion and then an insertion of the picture again to correct the problem of the Caption not showing properly for Figure 53, and figure 54 showing as Figure 53 rather than 54. Regards Keith > Message ID: ***@***.***> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #101: 3rd Review of AOO41WG3
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #101: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/101#issuecomment-1595158537 On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:06 PM Keith N. McKenna ***@***.***> wrote: > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/101>, or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACGKX6I62LHKF5ZYZELUMZTXLNTMTANCNFSM6AAZIKWKOM> > . > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Hi Keith, I don't see any recent commit that lists changes to AOO41WG3.odt since I committed some changes on 2023-01-23. Is the version currently in the Review folder different from the one I fetched on 6/14? I have changes to AOO41WG2.odt that I have not yet pushed to the main repository and if the version of AOO41WG3.odt that I have is not up to date, I'll have to resolve conflicts when I push AOO41WG2.odt. Regards, Francis > Message ID: ***@***.***> > Francis, I Haven't done 3 yet, I actually did Chapter 4 by mistake. I will push 4 and start Chapter 3 now. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #101: 3rd Review of AOO41WG3
FJCC (via GitHub) wrote: FJCC commented on issue #101: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/101#issuecomment-1595158537 On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:06 PM Keith N. McKenna ***@***.***> wrote: > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/101>, or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACGKX6I62LHKF5ZYZELUMZTXLNTMTANCNFSM6AAZIKWKOM> > . > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Hi Keith, I don't see any recent commit that lists changes to AOO41WG3.odt since I committed some changes on 2023-01-23. Is the version currently in the Review folder different from the one I fetched on 6/14? I have changes to AOO41WG2.odt that I have not yet pushed to the main repository and if the version of AOO41WG3.odt that I have is not up to date, I'll have to resolve conflicts when I push AOO41WG2.odt. Regards, Francis > Message ID: ***@***.***> > Francis; Unfortunately I have made changes to Aoo41WG3, and am not finished doing the review. This is another one that would crash after trying to Accept/Reject a change. As a result I had to accept all changes and then essentially do a complete review. I should have it finished later today or tomorrow. Things have been hectic in my personal life the last week or so and it has limited the time I would normally have for OpenOffice. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: A side note
Dennis Hamilton wrote: I thought of you folks, and others, when I saw this today: <https://github.com/readme/featured/open-source-non-code-contributions>. Thank for thinking of us Dennis. I saw that article as well and thought it was long overdue praise for non-coders whose contributions to open-source are so often overlooked. Regards Keith -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:05 To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Subject: AOO41WG2 Ready for Review 3rd review of AOO41WG2 is needed. Whomever does it please close the open issue when done. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO41WG2 Ready for Review
3rd review of AOO41WG2 is needed. Whomever does it please close the open issue when done. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Calc needs another review
Michele Petrovsky wrote: Folks, I've finished my proofreading of the Getting Started guide (version 4.1, copyright 2022). The project is so well done that I have little to suggest in the way of improving it. But I did find three contexts in which it might be tweaked a little. 1. A glossary, especially of terms (e.g., from pages 11 and 12, odbc; jdbc, GNU, kernel, and glibc; page 114: regular expression; page 158: Bezler curves; page 185: database normalization) with which a lot of people might be unfamiliar, would make *Getting Started* even more useful. 1. Greater consistency in the presentation of internal links (for instance, some Figures being shown in the text *before**,* rather than after, the link to them – such as, on page 273, the reference to Figure 244, which occurs *after* the Figure itself) would improve workability. 1. Some more “colloquial” wording might also serve to make less skilled users more comfortable. For instance, on page 94, what's shown as “provides the oportunity” might be better expressed simply as “allows you to”. I've got lots more individual items, but those are the basic contexts. Tell me how you'd like to proceed. And thanks again for the opportunity … Michele; Thank you for all your good work on your review of the Getting Started Guide Is this Glossary intended to be included as part of the Back Matter of the full book, or as Francis addressed below in his reply as a stand-alone document that could be inclusive of the complete set of User Guides. How we proceed in the long run depends on a number of factors. For the Glossary it depends on its ultimate use. If it is meant as a stand-alone document for one guide or as an integrated part of the book it would be handled one way, if as a stand-alone document for the entire set of guides it would be another way entirely. I will start a [Discuss] thread so that all the members can give their opinions on the best way to do it. For the consistency of Figure placement I agree with Francis that it would be best addressed in the Calc Guide as the placement has to be addressed in the chapter documents. The full book is simply the chapter docs merged into one doc along with any Front Matter and/or Back Matter if it is required. For the more colloquial wording, that can start to be addressed as I work through the Writer Guide, and followed up in the rest of the guides as they are started. If you could write up your suggestions and post them here all of the team members can have access to them. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Calc needs another review
Hello Francis, I will comment on your suggestion in-line F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Michele, I think a standalone glossary could be very useful. There is a lot of jargon and it would not be practical to give an adequate explanation of terms within the flow of the text.I also suspect that there would be a lot of overlap in the terms among the various guides, making a standalone glossary more practical. Although a stand-alone Glossary would be an excellent addition, remember we also publish the individual chapters. It may be helpful to have a glossary specific to each chapter. What do you think? You make a good point about the location of figures. I'm inclined to make those changes in the next guide to get a major revision, which would be the Calc Guide. I think Keith is about ready to publish the Writer Guide. Actually I am not ready to publish it, With all the time spent on getting to Getting started book right, as well as things in my personal life, I am behind on reviewing the chapters. Chapter one is ready, but in Chpater 2 I found a number of corrections that need to be made. I will be starting Chapter 3 today and spending most of my time the next few weeks reviewing the rest of the chapters. You are right about some passages being less friendly than they could be. All of the guides suffer from uneven tone. There have been many authors and I think some spoke English as a second language.It's probably not practical, or even desirable, to completely even out the style, but introducing a bias towards less formal writing is a good idea. I wholeheartedly agree with the above. Some of it could also be from repeated us of the same phrasing or word. This is more a style issue and would need to be addressed on an individual basis. Some of these style issues may be a result of my own bias, for which I apologize profusely. What would you think of working with me to complete the revision of the Calc guide? The version in the Git repository has been substantially revised from the version on the web page but it could use improvements like the ones you suggest. In relatively little time we could have something to replace the very old version on the web page. I think that would bring the biggest improvement to the published documentation for the least effort on our part. We could then come back to implement your specific suggestions for the Getting Started guide having acquired some experience on the Calc guide. I think this would a good idea as well. It would give Michele an opportunity to get familiar with GitHub and be able to more interactively rather than having to wait wait until a guide or it's chapters are published to he mwiki. Regards Keith Thanks for all your effort so far. If you would rather concentrate on the glossary exclusively or work on any other aspect of the documentation, just say so! Regards, Francis On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 12:34 PM Michele Petrovsky < petrovskymich...@gmail.com> wrote: Folks, I've finished my proofreading of the Getting Started guide (version 4.1, copyright 2022). The project is so well done that I have little to suggest in the way of improving it. But I did find three contexts in which it might be tweaked a little. 1. A glossary, especially of terms (e.g., from pages 11 and 12, odbc; jdbc, GNU, kernel, and glibc; page 114: regular expression; page 158: Bezler curves; page 185: database normalization) with which a lot of people might be unfamiliar, would make *Getting Started* even more useful. 1. Greater consistency in the presentation of internal links (for instance, some Figures being shown in the text *before**,* rather than after, the link to them – such as, on page 273, the reference to Figure 244, which occurs *after* the Figure itself) would improve workability. 1. Some more “colloquial” wording might also serve to make less skilled users more comfortable. For instance, on page 94, what's shown as “provides the oportunity” might be better expressed simply as “allows you to”. I've got lots more individual items, but those are the basic contexts. Tell me how you'd like to proceed. And thanks again for the opportunity … On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:57 AM F Campos Costero wrote: On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:40 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: On the Calc Guide, I will first accept or reject all of the changes currently shown and push those versions back to the repository. Judging from the first chapter, all of my and Dick's changes have not yet been accepted. I hope I will have time after that to do a full review of each document. Let me know if that plan isn't good. Regards, Francis That sounds good Francis. Thanks for moving this along. Keith On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:08 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: I'll take a look at the Calc c
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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book
Michele Petrovsky wrote: Keith, as is the case with all of Open Office's documentation, the discussion of tracking changes is very well done. I'm particularly impressed with the clarity with which screen shots are used to illustrate a point or a set of steps. I'll continue to plug away at proofreading. I hope to have a (fairly) complete set of suggestions in each of two categories (glossary, and smoother flow of language) ready in another couple of weeks. I look forward to seeing those suggestions, but understand that the chapter files have been published and that only the compiled book is still waiting, and that there are 5 (possibly 6) individual manuals to be completed. The priorities are: 1) Writer 2) Calc 3) Impress 4) Draw 5) Math 6) Base Because of this, some or all of the information may be entered into Bugzilla, our issue tracking database, for future action.As far as a glossary is concerned, you may have noted that much of that has been done internal to the documents by use of styles. All recommendations will however be considered though possibly acted upon in different ways. Regards Keith On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Michele Petrovsky wrote: Hope this finds everyone well... Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so pages a day. So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other proofreading-type errors. There are a few word choices that could be improved, I think. But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's very nicely done. I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of suggestions for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary. Will keep you posted. *Michele* Michele; Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your list of suggestions. For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each person. If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide, and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than happy to give you any help that we can. Regards Keith On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on a blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document showed a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most of the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the chapter file. If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures 12 and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures long ago. I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems. Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero < fjcc.apa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Francis; Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution on the mwiki. The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in the complete book. If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it would be greatly appreciated. Regards Keith was I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are working with the same files, please confirm that: 1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch 2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the ForWiki folder 3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the Getting-sarted-Guide branch. Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems? Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting Started Guide. All the chapters except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a problem it would be greatly appreciated. The way I have been doing it is to create a b
Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book
Michele Petrovsky wrote: Hope this finds everyone well... Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so pages a day. So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other proofreading-type errors. There are a few word choices that could be improved, I think. But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's very nicely done. I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of suggestions for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary. Will keep you posted. *Michele* Michele; Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your list of suggestions. For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each person. If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide, and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than happy to give you any help that we can. Regards Keith On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on a blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document showed a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most of the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the chapter file. If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures 12 and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures long ago. I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems. Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero Hi Francis; Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution on the mwiki. The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in the complete book. If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it would be greatly appreciated. Regards Keith was I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are working with the same files, please confirm that: 1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch 2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the ForWiki folder 3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the Getting-sarted-Guide branch. Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems? Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting Started Guide. All the chapters except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a problem it would be greatly appreciated. The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC. Thank a lot for the help Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book
F Campos Costero wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:54 AM F Campos Costero wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero < fjcc.apa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Francis; Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution on the mwiki. The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in the complete book. If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it would be greatly appreciated. Regards Keith Hi Keith I'll try to compile the whole text and see how it goes. Francis Keith, I compiled all of the AOO41GS#.odt files into a file named AllChapters.odt. I had to reinsert a figure or two in most of the chapters. After saving it and taking a break, I scrolled through the whole document looking for missing figures both among the numbered figures in frames and the in-line images that show individual toolbar icons. That was very tedious, so I'm not highly confident I didn't miss anything. However, I didn't see any missing figures. There is a comment on page 251 that needs to be resolved. I'm not sure what you would like for the next step. I could just push the AllChapters file (with a different name?) to the top level folder of the repository, or I can make it available separately. Regards, Francis Francis; For now, since there are questions to be resolved, push it to the Review folder as AOO41GS.odt. Again thank you for helping to get this straightened out. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book
F Campos Costero wrote: I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on a blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document showed a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most of the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the chapter file. If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures 12 and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures long ago. I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems. Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Francis; Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution on the mwiki. The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in the complete book. If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it would be greatly appreciated. Regards Keith was I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are working with the same files, please confirm that: 1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch 2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the ForWiki folder 3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the Getting-sarted-Guide branch. Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems? Regards, Francis On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting Started Guide. All the chapters except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a problem it would be greatly appreciated. The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC. Thank a lot for the help Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book
I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting Started Guide. All the chapters except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a problem it would be greatly appreciated. The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC. Thank a lot for the help Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Working with Open Office
Michele Petrovsky wrote: Hope this finds you all well. Peter Kovacs suggested I get in touch with you, as a first step in volunteering with Open Office. I'm a late bloomer as a techie - bachelor's in history. Took me another few years, but eventually got a Master's in Information Science from the University of Pittsburgh. Which led to technical writing, which in turn led to teaching. All of those caused me to get in touch with Open Office. I've been retired for a couple of years now, and miss the classroom and teaching experience a lot. I'd be grateful for anything I can do for / with you folks. As another part of introducing myself, I'm taking the liberty of attaching here a sample of my work. It's a PowerPoint presentation I used in one of my introductory programming classes. By all means let me know if there's a chance for us to work together. And in any case thanks for the opportunity. /Michele Petrovsky/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Greetings Michele and welcome to Apache OpenOffice; Your skills as a tech writer would definitely be appreciated on the documentation team. Currently we are working on a massive upgrade to our user documentation. We broadly use the Chicago Manual of Style as our style guide. We also use Apache OpenOffice®, especially Writer, for most of this work, and use a GitHub repository for version control, as well as tracking who is working on what. Currently the Getting Started Guide is published and the Writer, and Calc Guides still need to be reviewed. This mailing list is the primary means of communication for the team so feel free to ask questions. If you have not worked with an open source project before, the Level 1 and level 2 links from our Orientation page will prove helpful. https://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html. Again welcome to the project, and I look forward to working with you to make our documentation better. Regards Keith N. McKenna - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Calc needs another review
F Campos Costero wrote: On the Calc Guide, I will first accept or reject all of the changes currently shown and push those versions back to the repository. Judging from the first chapter, all of my and Dick's changes have not yet been accepted. I hope I will have time after that to do a full review of each document. Let me know if that plan isn't good. Regards, Francis That sounds good Francis. Thanks for moving this along. Keith On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:08 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: F Campos Costero wrote: I'll take a look at the Calc changes. Francis Thanks Francis. I will finish with the Getting started changes from Czeslaw morning, and will get back to the Writer Guide this afternoon. Regards Keith On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 1:07 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Digro has had changes for Calc waiting review for some time could another member of the team start reviewing those so that Guide can start Moving along. I am still trying to catch up with with the Getting Started changes from Czeslaw that Francis made and re publishing them, as well as trying to work on the Writer Guide. I have also been spending a lot of time taking my Girlfriend in and out of the Veterans Administration Hospital in the Jamaica Plains section of Boston for medical issues. Thank you all in Advance Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Calc needs another review
F Campos Costero wrote: I'll take a look at the Calc changes. Francis Thanks Francis. I will finish with the Getting started changes from Czeslaw morning, and will get back to the Writer Guide this afternoon. Regards Keith On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 1:07 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Digro has had changes for Calc waiting review for some time could another member of the team start reviewing those so that Guide can start Moving along. I am still trying to catch up with with the Getting Started changes from Czeslaw that Francis made and re publishing them, as well as trying to work on the Writer Guide. I have also been spending a lot of time taking my Girlfriend in and out of the Veterans Administration Hospital in the Jamaica Plains section of Boston for medical issues. Thank you all in Advance Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Problem with AOO crashing with multiple changes
We have had a recurring problem with AOO crashing on files with over 5 changes. What happens is that if you try to review the changes individually AOO will sometimes crash. I have added https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128564 to Bugzilla, but it cannot advance as no one has been able to confirm it yet. Could one of you take the ODT file from the issue and see if it crashes for you and report the results in the bug? Thanks in Advance Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Calc needs another review
Digro has had changes for Calc waiting review for some time could another member of the team start reviewing those so that Guide can start Moving along. I am still trying to catch up with with the Getting Started changes from Czeslaw that Francis made and re publishing them, as well as trying to work on the Writer Guide. I have also been spending a lot of time taking my Girlfriend in and out of the Veterans Administration Hospital in the Jamaica Plains section of Boston for medical issues. Thank you all in Advance Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: "Open Office" in Australia
Matthias Seidel wrote: *If* this would be a conflict, then the ASF would need to take action. Am 26.03.23 um 17:08 schrieb Simon Phipps: Thanks David - looks like a clear risk of confusion with Apache's trademark that the PMC needs to consider and most likely act on. Cheers Simon On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, 07:51 David Robley, wrote: Just came across this - https://openoffice.com.au/ Are they encroaching on AOO in any way, such as name? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org That is true Matthias. It is time to take this to private@ Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fw: Self-introduction and Area of Interest
Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Keith, Did he get a reaction from us? Regards, Matthias Am 27.02.23 um 16:28 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Below is an introduction from a new volunteer to the documentation team originally sent to volunteer@. - Original Message - From: K C To: volunt...@openoffice.apache.org Date: 2023-02-24 00:38 Subject: Self-introduction and Area of Interest Dear team, I am currently working as a teacher of English in one of the A-level schools in Shanghai, China. After I obtained my master degree in Linguistics and Applied Linguistics in Shanghai Jiao Tong University, a top 50 university in the QS World University Rankings, I decided to become an educator since I believe as one of the most noble occupations, it can greatly contribute to human and social development as a whole. I’ve been teaching ESL courses and Standardized Language Tests such as IELTS and TOEFL for about ten years, during which I’ve marked tons of students’ writing pieces and helped them achieve a satisfactory score in the writing part of their tests. I heard about the role of technical writer for the first time from one of my friends from graduate school. Her description of the job made it sound really interesting. She also recommended the Apache OpenOffice Project to me, saying it is a friendly community where anyone who is interested in technical writing can get an easy start. As a technophile, I am enthusiastic about knowing every new release and update on technology products. So I think maybe I can combine my interest, expertise and experiences together to seek more personal development. When I found out about your volunteer project, I considered it might be a good way for me to get started and be actively engaged. I am looking forward to your further reply to see how I can contribute to the community. Kind regards, Keren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Yes he did.May have been on the Volunteer list originally./ Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fw: Self-introduction and Area of Interest
Below is an introduction from a new volunteer to the documentation team originally sent to volunteer@. - Original Message - From: K C To: volunt...@openoffice.apache.org Date: 2023-02-24 00:38 Subject: Self-introduction and Area of Interest Dear team, I am currently working as a teacher of English in one of the A-level schools in Shanghai, China. After I obtained my master degree in Linguistics and Applied Linguistics in Shanghai Jiao Tong University, a top 50 university in the QS World University Rankings, I decided to become an educator since I believe as one of the most noble occupations, it can greatly contribute to human and social development as a whole. I’ve been teaching ESL courses and Standardized Language Tests such as IELTS and TOEFL for about ten years, during which I’ve marked tons of students’ writing pieces and helped them achieve a satisfactory score in the writing part of their tests. I heard about the role of technical writer for the first time from one of my friends from graduate school. Her description of the job made it sound really interesting. She also recommended the Apache OpenOffice Project to me, saying it is a friendly community where anyone who is interested in technical writing can get an easy start. As a technophile, I am enthusiastic about knowing every new release and update on technology products. So I think maybe I can combine my interest, expertise and experiences together to seek more personal development. When I found out about your volunteer project, I considered it might be a good way for me to get started and be actively engaged. I am looking forward to your further reply to see how I can contribute to the community. Kind regards, Keren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 4.1 Getting Started Guide Guide - remarks
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I just pushed my new versions to the repository. There were a lot of changes in the Apache repository in folders other than Review that I should have merged before I started editing but since I limited my changes to Review, I don't think that caused any problems. I won't make that mistake again. Francis Francis; I saw your commits and have brought them into my local repository, and have already started on them. Thank you so much for getting them done. No worries, if it does cause any problemany problem, wich I doubt, it can be adrressed as needed. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I'm sorry to hear you were sick. I hope you are fully better. All of my commits for the Writer Guide have already been pushed to the repo. On future chapters, I will inspect any tracked changes that are present when I get the document but I will accept or reject them before I push the new version back to the repo. I think having every change viewed by one other person is enough and I'd like to avoid having large numbers of changes in a document. I'm also ready to push Czeslaw's changes to the Getting Started guide if you are ok with me replacing the files in the Review folder. I posted a question in Czeslaw's thread about that. Regards, Francis On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 1:47 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Francis; Ideally You should go through the changes one, by one anseither accept them or reject them. However, there is a bug that makes that difficult if there are more than 4 or 5 changes. I will try to track that bug down and raise its priority to hopefully get it fixed. I see no reason given the known bug of accepting the changes and then making any new changes as necessary. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: I finished my review of the first three chapters of the Writer Guide. After I pushed the commits, it occurred to me that I probably should have accepted all of Keith's edits that were in place when I fetched the documents. Does anyone object to a standard process of accepting all previous Tracked Changes and making new commits only with new edits or revisions of the previous ones? I have found that having a large number of tracked changes makes documents unwieldy and even unstable. Regards, Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:09 PM F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, Sorry, I got myself confused. I incorporated Czeslaw's changes into the Getting Started Guide chapters 2 and 3 and did another pass through those chapters. I am just starting the review of the Writer guide. My comments above about folder structure apply to the Getting Started Guide but they will apply to the Writer Guide soon. Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM F Campos Costero < fjcc.apa...@gmail.com> wrote: Keith, I just assigned the reviews of chapters 2 and 3 to myself. These are both done, actually, as I worked on them over the weekend. I took the version of the two chapters from the ForWiki folder, edited them (Czeslaw's changes plus a few minor changes of my own) and saved them in the Review folder. This was all done on my local computer. The local Review folder now contains my new versions of chapters 2 and 3 plus the previously existing review versions of all the other chapters. How do you want to handle those older "review" versions? Should I delete them, since they are, I suppose, superseded by the files in the ForWiki folder? There are also copies of all the chapters in the folder one level up from the ForWiki and Review folders. They seem to be, at the moment, duplicates of the versions in ForWiki. Do we need those? I would think that we need, at most, two copies of the files, one representing what is on the wiki and another that is the working copy. We could just have a single visible version and just be diligent about tagging the versions that get posted to the wiki, but I'm fine with whatever people are comfortable with. Three copies, though, seems like more than is necessary. Regards, Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Francis; I had a conversation with infra today as I was not able to assign you either. What you have to do is go ti http://gitbox.apache.org/ and link your ASF id there. Than you should be able to assign yourself, or I can assign you. In issues only committers or those with the triage privilege can be assigned to issues. Please let me know how it works out. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, I was going to assign myself to issue 95, the review of chapter 2, but I do not see any way to do that. Do I need to be granted some authority or am I not seeing something obvious? My github user id is FJCC. Francis On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For
Re: 4.1 Getting Started Guide Guide - remarks
F Campos Costero wrote: I have made all of the edits suggested by Czeslaw. There are a couple of cases where I had questions and those are noted in the commit messages. Before I push my commits, I'd like to get confirmation from Keith that I am not going to cause problems with any of his work on the Getting Started guide. All of the revised documents are in the Review folder in my local repository.. I did not change the documents in the top level folder or in the ForWiki folder. However, the versions in the Review folder seemed to be later versions than the ones in ForWiki. I would have expected ForWiki and Review to be identical immediately after documents were posted to the wiki, which I thought was the state we were in. Have I misunderstood the intent of the Review and ForWiki folders? Regards, Francis On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:08 AM F Campos Costero wrote: I have implemented Czeslaw's edits as far as chapter 8. I should get through all of them early next week. I will then push the revised versions to the Review folder. The edits on chapter 7 were excellent. I had largely rewritten that chapter and it certainly benefited from the revisions. Regards, Francis On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 8:06 PM Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 7 .pdf file is available at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HPjbs4wYTOLeimnQ_hnu6-OHq056wWJO/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am Sa., 7. Jan. 2023 um 18:50 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 9 ZIP archive is available at the link given below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXS3c50bXaeuULNujkbfc5eEpgRpO6dF/view?usp=sharing Regards, Czesław вс, 1 янв. 2023 г. в 05:45, Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 5 ZIP archive is available at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zaL0muMZCYnV7f7na9_l_EycBgCS1wL4/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am Fr., 30. Dez. 2022 um 16:50 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 4 A .pdf file can be downloaded from the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bavwXS85pY3y163vtDKaEh37hzow7FFS/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am So., 18. Dez. 2022 um 06:41 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 8 and 10 ZIP archive is available at the link given below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OQlQgdIST_FgJI8s4RrRGGQi1HlbO94j/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am Fr., 16. Dez. 2022 um 19:10 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 3 .pdf file is available at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfCKT_4Oafl4hAlA2C9rbiAZ-_p1RiHF/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am Do., 15. Dez. 2022 um 12:19 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 2 and 6. ZIP archive can be downloaded from the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C8kkHWkF0IiSbokMZzVZG5jzR1sTjyTe/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Am Mi., 14. Dez. 2022 um 22:51 Uhr schrieb Czesław Wolański < czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com>: Hi, First of all, I would like to thank again everyone involved in the work on the 4.1 Getting Started Guide. I have and will have remarks on the Guide. To begin with, Chapter 11: ZIP archive is available at the link given below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14BmyeqZC6C2wL4vy312TdOlkWpi_482j/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Francis; The ForWiki folder is used to create the PDFs and ODT files that are sent to the mwiki. The Chapter files all need the front matter applied to them. That includes the Titlte Page, Copyright page and the TOC. The process is to copy the published ODT files to the ForWiki folder and edit them to add the Front matter, create the PDF files, and then add the PDF and ODT files to the mwiki. The Review folder is where all the editing and reviews get done before publishing the document to the top level folder and then cherry-picked to Main. So please go ahead and comitt your changes to the Review folderand we will go from there. Regards Keith P.S. I am sorry it took so ling to get back to you on this. Between shuttling my girlfriend into Boston to the VA medical center for tests, and being elected as Senior Warden for my church things have been hectic. Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
Francis; Ideally You should go through the changes one, by one anseither accept them or reject them. However, there is a bug that makes that difficult if there are more than 4 or 5 changes. I will try to track that bug down and raise its priority to hopefully get it fixed. I see no reason given the known bug of accepting the changes and then making any new changes as necessary. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: I finished my review of the first three chapters of the Writer Guide. After I pushed the commits, it occurred to me that I probably should have accepted all of Keith's edits that were in place when I fetched the documents. Does anyone object to a standard process of accepting all previous Tracked Changes and making new commits only with new edits or revisions of the previous ones? I have found that having a large number of tracked changes makes documents unwieldy and even unstable. Regards, Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:09 PM F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, Sorry, I got myself confused. I incorporated Czeslaw's changes into the Getting Started Guide chapters 2 and 3 and did another pass through those chapters. I am just starting the review of the Writer guide. My comments above about folder structure apply to the Getting Started Guide but they will apply to the Writer Guide soon. Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I just assigned the reviews of chapters 2 and 3 to myself. These are both done, actually, as I worked on them over the weekend. I took the version of the two chapters from the ForWiki folder, edited them (Czeslaw's changes plus a few minor changes of my own) and saved them in the Review folder. This was all done on my local computer. The local Review folder now contains my new versions of chapters 2 and 3 plus the previously existing review versions of all the other chapters. How do you want to handle those older "review" versions? Should I delete them, since they are, I suppose, superseded by the files in the ForWiki folder? There are also copies of all the chapters in the folder one level up from the ForWiki and Review folders. They seem to be, at the moment, duplicates of the versions in ForWiki. Do we need those? I would think that we need, at most, two copies of the files, one representing what is on the wiki and another that is the working copy. We could just have a single visible version and just be diligent about tagging the versions that get posted to the wiki, but I'm fine with whatever people are comfortable with. Three copies, though, seems like more than is necessary. Regards, Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Francis; I had a conversation with infra today as I was not able to assign you either. What you have to do is go ti http://gitbox.apache.org/ and link your ASF id there. Than you should be able to assign yourself, or I can assign you. In issues only committers or those with the triage privilege can be assigned to issues. Please let me know how it works out. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, I was going to assign myself to issue 95, the review of chapter 2, but I do not see any way to do that. Do I need to be granted some authority or am I not seeing something obvious? My github user id is FJCC. Francis On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
Francis; Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. I have been ill. I understand getting yourself confused, I do it to myself all the time.I will look forward to seeing your commits for the changes. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith Sorry, I got myself confused. I incorporated Czeslaw's changes into the Getting Started Guide chapters 2 and 3 and did another pass through those chapters. I am just starting the review of the Writer guide. My comments above about folder structure apply to the Getting Started Guide but they will apply to the Writer Guide soon. Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I just assigned the reviews of chapters 2 and 3 to myself. These are both done, actually, as I worked on them over the weekend. I took the version of the two chapters from the ForWiki folder, edited them (Czeslaw's changes plus a few minor changes of my own) and saved them in the Review folder. This was all done on my local computer. The local Review folder now contains my new versions of chapters 2 and 3 plus the previously existing review versions of all the other chapters. How do you want to handle those older "review" versions? Should I delete them, since they are, I suppose, superseded by the files in the ForWiki folder? There are also copies of all the chapters in the folder one level up from the ForWiki and Review folders. They seem to be, at the moment, duplicates of the versions in ForWiki. Do we need those? I would think that we need, at most, two copies of the files, one representing what is on the wiki and another that is the working copy. We could just have a single visible version and just be diligent about tagging the versions that get posted to the wiki, but I'm fine with whatever people are comfortable with. Three copies, though, seems like more than is necessary. Regards, Francis On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:47 AM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Francis; I had a conversation with infra today as I was not able to assign you either. What you have to do is go ti http://gitbox.apache.org/ and link your ASF id there. Than you should be able to assign yourself, or I can assign you. In issues only committers or those with the triage privilege can be assigned to issues. Please let me know how it works out. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, I was going to assign myself to issue 95, the review of chapter 2, but I do not see any way to do that. Do I need to be granted some authority or am I not seeing something obvious? My github user id is FJCC. Francis On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
Francis; I had a conversation with infra today as I was not able to assign you either. What you have to do is go ti http://gitbox.apache.org/ and link your ASF id there. Than you should be able to assign yourself, or I can assign you. In issues only committers or those with the triage privilege can be assigned to issues. Please let me know how it works out. Regards Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, I was going to assign myself to issue 95, the review of chapter 2, but I do not see any way to do that. Do I need to be granted some authority or am I not seeing something obvious? My github user id is FJCC. Francis On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
F Campos Costero wrote: Hi Keith, I was going to assign myself to issue 95, the review of chapter 2, but I do not see any way to do that. Do I need to be granted some authority or am I not seeing something obvious? My github user id is FJCC. Francis Francis; The problem is that your FJCC id and your committer id are different. I believe that you need to link your committer id to to GitHub. I will check with Infra tomorrow to see the esiest way to do that. Meanwhile I will assign you to the issue now. Regards Keith On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:06 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
Thanks Francis Keith F Campos Costero wrote: Keith I hope I can start to review the documents before the end of next week. I have another thing I have to work on for a few more days. Once I'm free, I'll pick an issue. Francis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Review of first 3 chapters of Writer Guide
A second review of Chapters 1-3 of the Writer Guide are needed. Please Assign yourself to the GitHub issues and review. Francis if you cannot assign yourself, let me know which you will do and gn you.and I will assi Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 4.1 Getting Started Guide Guide - remarks
Czesław Wolański wrote: Hi, Remarks on Chapter 8 and 10 ZIP archive is available at the link given below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OQlQgdIST_FgJI8s4RrRGGQi1HlbO94j/view?usp=share_link Regards, Czesław Czeslaw; Be assured that any remarks that you give us will be addressed as we go forward. The difficulty arises is that Once we start publishing the PDF's, to the mwiki, the source .odt files need to be changed, and the full book and the full book .odt re-compiled. Also the PDF's for the book as well as the individual chapter PDF's. The above can take a while as the documentation team currently consists of three members to do the updates and editing passes on the six user guides. If you would be interested in joining the team, we would welcome your keen eye as an editor. That way you could make the changes to the .odt files directly, or as comments and commit them back to the documentation repository. Either way your comments are appreciated and will be acted upon. Regards Keith McKenna - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #92: Review of complete Getting Started book (AOO41GS.odt
GitBox wrote: FJCC commented on issue #92: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/92#issuecomment-1309060957 Hi Keith, I have reached chapter 9, Getting Started With Math, and found that all of the Math objects are missing. They have been replaced with an icon of an electrical plug and the text Object X, where X is a number. All of the figures are there, only the Math objects are missing. Fortunately, AOO41GS9.odt still has the Math objects.Did you make chapter 9 using copy and paste from AOO41GS9.odt? I'd like to use the same process you used and see if there is a reproducible problem. Do you remember anything unusual happening with chapter 9? Other than this problem, the review is going very smoothly. I made a few corrections but I'm impressed with how few in such a long document. Francis Francis; I do not see the problem that you are seeing. Yes I created AOO41GS.odt by copying and pasting the chapter files. there was nothing that was different about AOO41GS9. Regards Keith On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:02 AM Keith N. McKenna ***@***.***> wrote: > That is precisely the one to review Francis. Thank you for checking. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/92#issuecomment-1305913177>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACGKX6L2MNN5GQBUNDOE7E3WHEYZXANCNFSM6AARYBKN5I> > . > You are receiving this because you were assigned.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #92: Review of complete Getting Started book (AOO41GS.odt
Dave wrote: On 07/11/2022 17:02, GitBox wrote: knmc commented on issue #92: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/92#issuecomment-1305913177 That is precisely the one to review Francis. Thank you for checking. Hi Keith, I have downloaded a copy of the AOO41GS.odt file. I am prepared to also review it if you think yet another pair of eyes might be helpful. Regards Dave The more eyes the better. We have had problems getting this right due to issues with AOO, and it is high time that we were able to publish it Also, who do I attribute you as having contributed to the book. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apologies for lack of work latel;y
Greetings All; I am sure people have noticed my lack of participation the last few weeks. I have been spending a lot of time at my girlfriends shuttling her between the VA hospital in Bedford MA, and Jamaica Plains, a part of Boston.This has required me to spend a large amount of time at her apartment and away from my computer. I still be spending time with her, but not as much as lately. With the Getting Started book in final review I will be splitting my time between preparing the Chapter files for Getting Started Ready for Publication to the mwiki, and reviewing the Chapter files for the Writer Guide to get that book moving along. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #92: Review of complete Getting Started book (AOO41GS.odt
GitBox wrote: FJCC commented on issue #92: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/92#issuecomment-1305686511 I will go through the document. Thanks Francis I appreciate it. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incorrect X-refs in latest iteration of Getting Started Guide
Jean Weber wrote: Keith, I took a very quick look at the latest file and found many, many incorrect x-refs to figure numbers, as well as other formatting problems. At this point I have no hypothesis about the cause of this continuing problem or any quick and easy way to fix it. Jean Jean; I have started over building the ODT doing a copy and paste from the chapter files and so far the xrefs seem to be lining up. I will continue doing this and hopefully it will work out this time. I have been checking the xrefs as I cut each chapter. When I have finished I will Commit it for an in-depth review by another member of the team. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with ODT file for Getting Started Guide
Jean; That did it. Sorry for my misunderstanding your initial Instructions. Thank you so much for taking the time to keep us on the straight and narrow. I am sure we would be further behind if it were not for your knowledge and expertise. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: I’ve modified some info in steps 3 and 4 below. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 06:32 Jean Weber wrote: Keith, yes you’ve misunderstood. I’ve added some info in your note below. -Jean On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 04:05 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean; I seem to be misunderstanding your instructions as I cannot seem to replicate what you did. Here are the steps I took: 1. Right-click the TOC 2. Click the Entries tab 3. Highlight level 1 and click hyperlink No - go to the *Structure* line, click in the first white space, then click Hyperlink. You should now see LS (link start) in that place. Note: This LE is probably already there, from what you’ve done previously,so you don’t need to repeat it. 4. Highlight level 10 and click hyperlink No - stay on the *Structure* line. New info: If you see a field LE just after the LS, click on it and press the Delete key on your keyboard. That LE is left over from what you did before, and it is interfering with adding an LE in the correct position, as described next. Go to the LAST white space (after the # field) and click Hyperlink. You should now see LE (link end) in that place. 5. Click All 6. Click Save It still does not add the Hyperlinks to the TOC Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Keith. UPDATE to my previous note. I have now had time to check your second file and I have found the problem. You inserted two hyperlink entries at the beginning of the Structure line instead of one at the beginning and one at the end. When I corrected that (and clicked All, then OK), the TOC came up working and in blue as expected (Internet Link shows in the Character Style field when the hyperlink entries are correctly placed). (When I checked this time, I found that I was wrong in my earlier assumption about the character style.) Jean On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 6:30 AM Jean Weber wrote: Keith, The links should be there, but they probably do not show in blue as you might expect. You’ll need to change the character style (probably Index Link) if you want that to happen. I’ll look at the file later to see if I’m correct. You probably started with one of my files, which was intended for a print book where a linked TOC (with blue characters) is irrelevant - so I remove them. Sorry if I’ve caused undue confusion. Jean On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 20:55 Keith N. McKenna < keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: Jean; I followed your instructions to add the hyperlinks, then updated the index, but it still does not appear to understand that the links are there. I have committed the changed ODT file back to the review folder. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Keith, The settings for the TOC do not include hyperlinks. Right-click on the TOC, choose Edit, go to the Entries page, and add hyperlink at the beginning and end of the Structure line. Click All at the end of that line to apply the changes to all levels of the TOC. Click OK to save the change. I have not looked at the rest of the document. Jean On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:37 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: I have created the ODT file for the Getting Started book. It definitely needs A in-depth review to make sure that all the xrefs are correct. Along with that, there is a major problem I cannot seem to overcome. It is laid out in Issue 91 in GitHub. Basically, The TOC is not linking correctly. You cannot use it to jump directly to a location. My system is slowly losing its mind and I can no longer do an administrative installation to see if it is a just my flaky system or if it is an actual bug in 4.1.13. If one of you could check that the TOC updates correctly with 4.1.13 or if we need to drop back to an older version. The ODT file is AOO41GS.odt in the review folder of the Getting Started guide. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with ODT file for Getting Started Guide
Jean; I seem to be misunderstanding your instructions as I cannot seem to replicate what you did. Here are the steps I took: 1. Right-click the TOC 2. Click the Entries tab 3. Highlight level 1 and click hyperlink 4. Highlight level 10 and click hyperlink 5. Click All 6. Click Save It still does not add the Hyperlinks to the TOC Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Keith. UPDATE to my previous note. I have now had time to check your second file and I have found the problem. You inserted two hyperlink entries at the beginning of the Structure line instead of one at the beginning and one at the end. When I corrected that (and clicked All, then OK), the TOC came up working and in blue as expected (Internet Link shows in the Character Style field when the hyperlink entries are correctly placed). (When I checked this time, I found that I was wrong in my earlier assumption about the character style.) Jean On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 6:30 AM Jean Weber wrote: Keith, The links should be there, but they probably do not show in blue as you might expect. You’ll need to change the character style (probably Index Link) if you want that to happen. I’ll look at the file later to see if I’m correct. You probably started with one of my files, which was intended for a print book where a linked TOC (with blue characters) is irrelevant - so I remove them. Sorry if I’ve caused undue confusion. Jean On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 20:55 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean; I followed your instructions to add the hyperlinks, then updated the index, but it still does not appear to understand that the links are there. I have committed the changed ODT file back to the review folder. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Keith, The settings for the TOC do not include hyperlinks. Right-click on the TOC, choose Edit, go to the Entries page, and add hyperlink at the beginning and end of the Structure line. Click All at the end of that line to apply the changes to all levels of the TOC. Click OK to save the change. I have not looked at the rest of the document. Jean On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:37 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: I have created the ODT file for the Getting Started book. It definitely needs A in-depth review to make sure that all the xrefs are correct. Along with that, there is a major problem I cannot seem to overcome. It is laid out in Issue 91 in GitHub. Basically, The TOC is not linking correctly. You cannot use it to jump directly to a location. My system is slowly losing its mind and I can no longer do an administrative installation to see if it is a just my flaky system or if it is an actual bug in 4.1.13. If one of you could check that the TOC updates correctly with 4.1.13 or if we need to drop back to an older version. The ODT file is AOO41GS.odt in the review folder of the Getting Started guide. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with ODT file for Getting Started Guide
Jean; I followed your instructions to add the hyperlinks, then updated the index, but it still does not appear to understand that the links are there. I have committed the changed ODT file back to the review folder. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Keith, The settings for the TOC do not include hyperlinks. Right-click on the TOC, choose Edit, go to the Entries page, and add hyperlink at the beginning and end of the Structure line. Click All at the end of that line to apply the changes to all levels of the TOC. Click OK to save the change. I have not looked at the rest of the document. Jean On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:37 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: I have created the ODT file for the Getting Started book. It definitely needs A in-depth review to make sure that all the xrefs are correct. Along with that, there is a major problem I cannot seem to overcome. It is laid out in Issue 91 in GitHub. Basically, The TOC is not linking correctly. You cannot use it to jump directly to a location. My system is slowly losing its mind and I can no longer do an administrative installation to see if it is a just my flaky system or if it is an actual bug in 4.1.13. If one of you could check that the TOC updates correctly with 4.1.13 or if we need to drop back to an older version. The ODT file is AOO41GS.odt in the review folder of the Getting Started guide. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Help with ODT file for Getting Started Guide
I have created the ODT file for the Getting Started book. It definitely needs A in-depth review to make sure that all the xrefs are correct. Along with that, there is a major problem I cannot seem to overcome. It is laid out in Issue 91 in GitHub. Basically, The TOC is not linking correctly. You cannot use it to jump directly to a location. My system is slowly losing its mind and I can no longer do an administrative installation to see if it is a just my flaky system or if it is an actual bug in 4.1.13. If one of you could check that the TOC updates correctly with 4.1.13 or if we need to drop back to an older version. The ODT file is AOO41GS.odt in the review folder of the Getting Started guide. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with Creating New ODM File for Getting Started
Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 15-9-2022 om 03:26 schreef Keith N. McKenna: Jean Weber wrote: As I’ve said before, a bug in AOO means that a book created using a master doc (ODM) and the chapter files (containing hidden sections) will have some incorrect internal cross-references to figure captions. More reliable to use an ODT for the front matter and then copy and paste from chapter files to make a book. Jean Thanks Jean. I will start on that tomorrow. I will also try to track down the bug and see if I can raise the priority to get it fixed. Regards Keith On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 at 03:41 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; I have been trying to create a new ODM file for the 4.1 Getting Started Guide and have hit a roadblock. I am having serious system problems and AOO will no longer create a TOC that creates the proper links to the rest of the document. This is trying to verify that the cross references that Jean found with the last pdf are taken care of. If one of you could do this it would be greatly appreciated so we can this this published finally. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Keith, you don't need to blame yourself. I've also given up on the ODM. As Jean says: "a bug in AOO means that a book created using a master doc (ODM) and the chapter files (containing hidden sections) will have some incorrect internal cross-references to figure captions." I've created Dutch odms in the past and never came across this. For now I've tried several times and ultimately gave up on it. Importing all chapters into one .odt works for me Dick; It is not so much that I have given up on ODM's, but that I am frustrated that they are not working properly. They should be the easiest way to compile multi-chapter books, yet with bugs like this they are useless. I found an open bug that addresses the problem and submitted a tripped down version of the Getting Started guide and will also up the priority on it to hopefully get it fixed. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with Creating New ODM File for Getting Started
Jean Weber wrote: As I’ve said before, a bug in AOO means that a book created using a master doc (ODM) and the chapter files (containing hidden sections) will have some incorrect internal cross-references to figure captions. More reliable to use an ODT for the front matter and then copy and paste from chapter files to make a book. Jean Thanks Jean. I will start on that tomorrow. I will also try to track down the bug and see if I can raise the priority to get it fixed. Regards Keith On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 at 03:41 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; I have been trying to create a new ODM file for the 4.1 Getting Started Guide and have hit a roadblock. I am having serious system problems and AOO will no longer create a TOC that creates the proper links to the rest of the document. This is trying to verify that the cross references that Jean found with the last pdf are taken care of. If one of you could do this it would be greatly appreciated so we can this this published finally. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Help with Creating New ODM File for Getting Started
Greetings All; I have been trying to create a new ODM file for the 4.1 Getting Started Guide and have hit a roadblock. I am having serious system problems and AOO will no longer create a TOC that creates the proper links to the rest of the document. This is trying to verify that the cross references that Jean found with the last pdf are taken care of. If one of you could do this it would be greatly appreciated so we can this this published finally. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Seeking Opinions on Renaming the OOO3 ODF Files
Jean Weber wrote: I agree. Much easier to follow. BTW, the OOo3 naming convention was for a purpose that is no longer relevant: something intended to be automated but never implemented JHW On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 at 07:40 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Thanks Jean always wondered what that naming convention was for. Regards Keith I am thinking that it might be a good idea to rename the OOo3 ODF files. The are all in a format nnnAAvv-ChapterName, IE 0201WG33-IntroducingWriter. As we started off with AOO41GSn for the chapters, I was thinking following on with that naming sceme for the rest of the quides. Please let me know if you agree with this or not. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Seeking Opinions on Renaming the OOO3 ODF Files
I am thinking that it might be a good idea to rename the OOo3 ODF files. The are all in a format nnnAAvv-ChapterName, IE 0201WG33-IntroducingWriter. As we started off with AOO41GSn for the chapters, I was thinking following on with that naming sceme for the rest of the quides. Please let me know if you agree with this or not. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Update on Getting Staeted Guide
I have verified that all the chapter files are correct, but many of the xrefs are still wrong in the ODM file.The only thing that I can think of is that somewhere in the process the ODM file got corrupted. To test that theory, I am going to create a new ODM file from scratch and see if it will solve the problems. In parallel I will start publishing the chapter file PDF'S to the mwiki. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New AOOdoc.ott Template for User Guides
Greetings all. This should have happened a while back, but it obviously didn't. I have updated AOOdoc.ott to include the color AOO Blue, which is the branded color we use for our logo and other materials. It has been added to the Template branch of the docs repository. Please download it and replace what you have in your instance of AOO. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help with correcting these errors
Jean Weber wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 3:05 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 2022-07-08 at 10:27, Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 7-7-2022 om 19:58 schreef Keith N. McKenna: F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I think I fixed a lot of the issues already (as well as some others I encountered) I'm happy to put my fixed files somewhere on GitHub sothat everyone can use them or have a look at them. That way we should have a fixed point to go forwards from For now I'm starting to work on the x-ref errors (all errors before that from Jeans mail should have been fixed I think) -- DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) Dick; Putting them on GitHub would be great. The best place I believe would be to put them in the Review folder for Getting Started. That way we know they are to be reviewed and then moved to the top level folder. [...] Regards Keith Don’t forget, the list I sent was only a sample of problems in the files. There are many others similar to those. The Base chapter, in particular, has many figures incorrectly anchored and extra blank paragraphs. Jean Thanks for the reminder Jean. We will go through the chapters again with a fine tooth comb. @digro, when you went through the chapters did you also look for any additional problems? Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Full-book files, tidied up
Jean Weber wrote: I have fixed the problems in the full-book ODT, but not in the individual chapter files. I also took the liberty of making some formatting changes, such as moving the margins, because if you ever get around to making a print edition the text will fit better (extra space on sides needed for binding and trim). I made a PDF from the ODT. You can download both files from my website. https://taming-apacheopenoffice.com/downloads/AOO41GS.odt https://taming-apacheopenoffice.com/downloads/AOO41GS.pdf Jean Jean; Thank you so much for not only allowing us to use your book as the basis for this, but also for all the help you have given us in reviewing it and making changes. Your knowledge and wealth of experience have made this a much better Guide. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re[2]: Need help with correcting these errors
On 2022-07-08 at 10:27, Dick Groskamp wrote: >Op 7-7-2022 om 19:58 schreef Keith N. McKenna: >> F Campos Costero wrote: >Keith, > >I think I fixed a lot of the issues already (as well as some others I >encountered) > >I'm happy to put my fixed files somewhere on GitHub sothat everyone can >use them or have a look at them. > >That way we should have a fixed point to go forwards from > >For now I'm starting to work on the x-ref errors (all errors before >that from Jeans mail should have been fixed I think) > >-- >DiGro >___ >Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) Dick; Putting them on GitHub would be great. The best place I believe would be to put them in the Review folder for Getting Started. That way we know they are to be reviewed and then moved to the top level folder. Just a question for you. Why individual mails to each of us rather than a replt to doc@? That is the reason for the list so that all communications relevant to documentation is in one place. I know there are others that follow doc@. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help with correcting these errors
F Campos Costero wrote: Dick & Keith, I was about to post my version of the repaired figures for AOO41GS7 and I saw Dick's version. His looks better than mine so I will not muddy the waters with mine. My method was to copy the images to a Draw document, delete the images and frames in the Writer document, and reinsert the content. Dick - Do you remember which figures were embedded as shapes? I am worried that I have been doing something wrong in my editing. Regards, Francis Dick and Francis; Thank you both for looking at this. I will take a look at Dick's file. Would it help if I put the list into Separate Issues in GitHub? That way as we grab them we can assign ourselves to them. That way we avoid duplication of effort. Regards Keith On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 11:10 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: OK, that went wrong. Should have been this: On 2022/07/07 16:45:53 Dick Groskamp wrote: Keith / Francis, I've been working on the list with errors as well. I've gone through all the chapters and fixed what I could fix. After that I tried to built an error-free .odm That was no succes because I encounterd some unexpected behavior/errors again. It seemed to me that one of the problem was lying in the pictures. So I numbered them all, as well as the frames they were in ( if any). I then noticed that some pictures were embedded as Shapes (no Pictures). Found some shapes that were hidden behind the picture. Changed the Shapes to pictures by Grouping them with the accompanying Picture and exporting them as .png from Draw. Then re-inserted as picture in the OOoFigure style. That seemed to clear some things. I've sent you my file AOO41GS7_digro_20220707.odt with the problematic pictures, you are talking about, fixed (I think) Please have a look, I think I'm still getting closer but not there yet Greetings DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help with correcting these errors
F Campos Costero wrote: Keith, I will take a look at this tomorrow. Francis Thanks Francis. Regards Keith On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 9:51 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: I am trying to resolve this list of errors below, especially the 4th one listed as on page 154 of the PDF in the ForWiki folder. It does appear to be due the the frame of the Figure above it being to large. Everything I have tried to reduce the space has only proved to move one or both figures out of sequence. The problem is in AOO41GS7.odt, which is Chapter 6 on Draw. Any help that can be provided would be gretly appreciated. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Looking more closely at the compiled book, I found a lot of formatting and other errors. I started recording them here, but I've given up. These will give you the general idea of the errors I found. Some (such as incorrect x-refs) are more important than others. --Jean Formatting: Page 3, near the top, "What You See May Be Different" should be a Heading 1. Page 63, There appears to be an extra table row below the Tip, causing an extra border to appear. Page 124, There is a blank table row at the top of the page. Page 154, Figure 136 falls into the bottom footer/margin, probably caused by an extra-large space above the heading "Rulers". This space appears to be due to the frame enclosing Figure 134. Page 178, blank page, should be removed. Page 181, Extra blank paragraph at top of page, pushing the heading down. Remove blank paragraph. Page 186: step 1), "Error: Reference source not found" Page 187, page break leaving large space at bottom for no apparent reason. Page 188, Figure 164 is too far off to the right, probably not anchored correctly. Page 210, Figure 187 is escaping off the top of the page. Probably not anchored correctly. Page 220, Too much space above heading "Creating Reports" Incorrect x-refs: (I have no idea how these got all goofed up). There probably are more. Page 122, x-ref to Figure 124 should be to Figure 107. Page 137, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. X-ref to Figure 123 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 124. Page 138, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. Page 141, x-ref to Figure 117 should be to Figure 126. Page 146, x-ref to Figure 111 should be to Figure 129. X-ref to Figure 110 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 128. Page 147, x-ref to Figure 109 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 131. Page 149, x-ref to Figure 108 should be to Figure 132. Page 154, x-ref to Figure 151 should be to Figure 135. Page 165, x-ref to Figure 148 should be to Figure 151. x-ref to Figure 147 should be to Figure 152. Page 169, x-ref to Figure 146 should be to Figure 153. x-ref to Figure 145 should be to Figure 154. Page 170, x-ref to Figure 139 should be to Figure 154. x-ref to Figure 143 should be to Figure 155. Page 173, x-ref to Figure 140 should be to Figure 156. x-ref to Figure 138 should be to Figure 157. In addition, some headings are in the wrong font and/or font size. There may be more. Page 104: "Formatting Numbers" Page. 135: "Adding Pictures or Objects to a Slide" Page 194, "Entering Data With the New Form" Page 195: "Modify the Form", "Using the Wizard...", and "Making the Form" Page 200, "Laying out a Form..." and "Making the Form" Page 203, "Navigation Bar" and "Adding a List Box" Page 205, "Changing the Tab Order" Page 216, "Make a Query With..." Page 217, "Query with Two..." Page 218, "Query that Summarizes..." and "Query Summarizing..." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Need help with correcting these errors
I am trying to resolve this list of errors below, especially the 4th one listed as on page 154 of the PDF in the ForWiki folder. It does appear to be due the the frame of the Figure above it being to large. Everything I have tried to reduce the space has only proved to move one or both figures out of sequence. The problem is in AOO41GS7.odt, which is Chapter 6 on Draw. Any help that can be provided would be gretly appreciated. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Looking more closely at the compiled book, I found a lot of formatting and other errors. I started recording them here, but I've given up. These will give you the general idea of the errors I found. Some (such as incorrect x-refs) are more important than others. --Jean Formatting: Page 3, near the top, "What You See May Be Different" should be a Heading 1. Page 63, There appears to be an extra table row below the Tip, causing an extra border to appear. Page 124, There is a blank table row at the top of the page. Page 154, Figure 136 falls into the bottom footer/margin, probably caused by an extra-large space above the heading "Rulers". This space appears to be due to the frame enclosing Figure 134. Page 178, blank page, should be removed. Page 181, Extra blank paragraph at top of page, pushing the heading down. Remove blank paragraph. Page 186: step 1), "Error: Reference source not found" Page 187, page break leaving large space at bottom for no apparent reason. Page 188, Figure 164 is too far off to the right, probably not anchored correctly. Page 210, Figure 187 is escaping off the top of the page. Probably not anchored correctly. Page 220, Too much space above heading "Creating Reports" Incorrect x-refs: (I have no idea how these got all goofed up). There probably are more. Page 122, x-ref to Figure 124 should be to Figure 107. Page 137, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. X-ref to Figure 123 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 124. Page 138, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. Page 141, x-ref to Figure 117 should be to Figure 126. Page 146, x-ref to Figure 111 should be to Figure 129. X-ref to Figure 110 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 128. Page 147, x-ref to Figure 109 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 131. Page 149, x-ref to Figure 108 should be to Figure 132. Page 154, x-ref to Figure 151 should be to Figure 135. Page 165, x-ref to Figure 148 should be to Figure 151. x-ref to Figure 147 should be to Figure 152. Page 169, x-ref to Figure 146 should be to Figure 153. x-ref to Figure 145 should be to Figure 154. Page 170, x-ref to Figure 139 should be to Figure 154. x-ref to Figure 143 should be to Figure 155. Page 173, x-ref to Figure 140 should be to Figure 156. x-ref to Figure 138 should be to Figure 157. In addition, some headings are in the wrong font and/or font size. There may be more. Page 104: "Formatting Numbers" Page. 135: "Adding Pictures or Objects to a Slide" Page 194, "Entering Data With the New Form" Page 195: "Modify the Form", "Using the Wizard...", and "Making the Form" Page 200, "Laying out a Form..." and "Making the Form" Page 203, "Navigation Bar" and "Adding a List Box" Page 205, "Changing the Tab Order" Page 216, "Make a Query With..." Page 217, "Query with Two..." Page 218, "Query that Summarizes..." and "Query Summarizing..." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting and other errors in Getting Started Guide
Jean Weber wrote: Additional info: the formatting problems are probably in the chapter files. The x-ref problems could be, too, but probably are not. I didn’t check. Jean On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 06:24 Jean Weber wrote: I was looking at the PDF in the ForWiki folder, which I assume was exported from the ODT. This may be related to a bug years ago that caused some books compiled using an ODM to have x-ref problems. That bug may still be lurking. For years I compiled books by copy-and-paste instead of using an ODM, to avoid this bug. Of course it could be something else causing the problems. But it is another good example of why one needs to carefully check a compiled book for errors. Jean Jean; Yes the PDF was created from the ODT, but one that deleted the Table of Contents. That Could account for a lot of the problems with x-refs as page numbers definitely would be off. I will recreate the PDF from the complete ODT and see what that yields, and then start tearing the chapter files apart again if it does not help the other problems. Thank yoiu so much for all your help. It has been greatly appreciated through my admittedly rough indoctrination into the area copy editing. Regards Keith Rega On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 04:12 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean; What file were you looking at so I know where to go to start and hunt them down. Was it the ODT file in the ForWiki folder, or in the ODM file at the top level. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Looking more closely at the compiled book, I found a lot of formatting and other errors. I started recording them here, but I've given up. These will give you the general idea of the errors I found. Some (such as incorrect x-refs) are more important than others. --Jean Formatting: Page 3, near the top, "What You See May Be Different" should be a Heading 1. Page 63, There appears to be an extra table row below the Tip, causing an extra border to appear. Page 124, There is a blank table row at the top of the page. Page 154, Figure 136 falls into the bottom footer/margin, probably caused by an extra-large space above the heading "Rulers". This space appears to be due to the frame enclosing Figure 134. Page 178, blank page, should be removed. Page 181, Extra blank paragraph at top of page, pushing the heading down. Remove blank paragraph. Page 186: step 1), "Error: Reference source not found" Page 187, page break leaving large space at bottom for no apparent reason. Page 188, Figure 164 is too far off to the right, probably not anchored correctly. Page 210, Figure 187 is escaping off the top of the page. Probably not anchored correctly. Page 220, Too much space above heading "Creating Reports" Incorrect x-refs: (I have no idea how these got all goofed up). There probably are more. Page 122, x-ref to Figure 124 should be to Figure 107. Page 137, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. X-ref to Figure 123 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 124. Page 138, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. Page 141, x-ref to Figure 117 should be to Figure 126. Page 146, x-ref to Figure 111 should be to Figure 129. X-ref to Figure 110 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 128. Page 147, x-ref to Figure 109 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 131. Page 149, x-ref to Figure 108 should be to Figure 132. Page 154, x-ref to Figure 151 should be to Figure 135. Page 165, x-ref to Figure 148 should be to Figure 151. x-ref to Figure 147 should be to Figure 152. Page 169, x-ref to Figure 146 should be to Figure 153. x-ref to Figure 145 should be to Figure 154. Page 170, x-ref to Figure 139 should be to Figure 154. x-ref to Figure 143 should be to Figure 155. Page 173, x-ref to Figure 140 should be to Figure 156. x-ref to Figure 138 should be to Figure 157. In addition, some headings are in the wrong font and/or font size. There may be more. Page 104: "Formatting Numbers" Page. 135: "Adding Pictures or Objects to a Slide" Page 194, "Entering Data With the New Form" Page 195: "Modify the Form", "Using the Wizard...", and "Making the Form" Page 200, "Laying out a Form..." and "Making the Form" Page 203, "Navigation Bar" and "Adding a List Box" Page 205, "Changing the Tab Order" Page 216, "Make a Query With..." Page 217, "Query with Two..." Page 218, "Query that Summarizes..." and "Query Summarizing..." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting and other errors in Getting Started Guide
Jean; What file were you looking at so I know where to go to start and hunt them down. Was it the ODT file in the ForWiki folder, or in the ODM file at the top level. Regards Keith Jean Weber wrote: Looking more closely at the compiled book, I found a lot of formatting and other errors. I started recording them here, but I've given up. These will give you the general idea of the errors I found. Some (such as incorrect x-refs) are more important than others. --Jean Formatting: Page 3, near the top, "What You See May Be Different" should be a Heading 1. Page 63, There appears to be an extra table row below the Tip, causing an extra border to appear. Page 124, There is a blank table row at the top of the page. Page 154, Figure 136 falls into the bottom footer/margin, probably caused by an extra-large space above the heading "Rulers". This space appears to be due to the frame enclosing Figure 134. Page 178, blank page, should be removed. Page 181, Extra blank paragraph at top of page, pushing the heading down. Remove blank paragraph. Page 186: step 1), "Error: Reference source not found" Page 187, page break leaving large space at bottom for no apparent reason. Page 188, Figure 164 is too far off to the right, probably not anchored correctly. Page 210, Figure 187 is escaping off the top of the page. Probably not anchored correctly. Page 220, Too much space above heading "Creating Reports" Incorrect x-refs: (I have no idea how these got all goofed up). There probably are more. Page 122, x-ref to Figure 124 should be to Figure 107. Page 137, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. X-ref to Figure 123 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 124. Page 138, x-ref to Figure 121 should be to Figure 123. Page 141, x-ref to Figure 117 should be to Figure 126. Page 146, x-ref to Figure 111 should be to Figure 129. X-ref to Figure 110 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 128. Page 147, x-ref to Figure 109 (near bottom of page) should be to Figure 131. Page 149, x-ref to Figure 108 should be to Figure 132. Page 154, x-ref to Figure 151 should be to Figure 135. Page 165, x-ref to Figure 148 should be to Figure 151. x-ref to Figure 147 should be to Figure 152. Page 169, x-ref to Figure 146 should be to Figure 153. x-ref to Figure 145 should be to Figure 154. Page 170, x-ref to Figure 139 should be to Figure 154. x-ref to Figure 143 should be to Figure 155. Page 173, x-ref to Figure 140 should be to Figure 156. x-ref to Figure 138 should be to Figure 157. In addition, some headings are in the wrong font and/or font size. There may be more. Page 104: "Formatting Numbers" Page. 135: "Adding Pictures or Objects to a Slide" Page 194, "Entering Data With the New Form" Page 195: "Modify the Form", "Using the Wizard...", and "Making the Form" Page 200, "Laying out a Form..." and "Making the Form" Page 203, "Navigation Bar" and "Adding a List Box" Page 205, "Changing the Tab Order" Page 216, "Make a Query With..." Page 217, "Query with Two..." Page 218, "Query that Summarizes..." and "Query Summarizing..." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Print copies of Getting Started Guide?
Jean Weber wrote: Keith. The account owner could be an individual or a separate organisation. The OOo books, for example, were done through an account owned by an Australian not-for-profit organisation (which no longer exists). The LO books are currently being done through an account that I own. As Dennis notes, anyone can publish these books. The CC license on the books allows it. If I wanted to, I could set up another account in my own name for AOO books. Jean Jean; I would need to run that by the rest of the PMC and if they agree, then through legal@ and trademarks@ as both Apache and OpenOffice are registered trademarks of the ASF. I will let you know how it all works out. Regards Keith On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 9:00 AM Dennis Hamilton wrote: Keith, I suggest asking legal about this (with approval of the PMC as well). Get permission for the ASF logo as well. Considering that *anyone* can publish those books, with appropriate acknowledgment and indication of where the free digital ones can be found, it is unclear to me why such a thing, with proceeds to the ASF, would cross a line. That's way better than what people have done with the AOO distros on eBay and Amazon themselves. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 14:44 To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Print copies of Getting Started Guide? Jean; The problem I see with being able to do this is the owner of the account. Because ASF is a US 501(C)(3)Tax Exempt charity, neither it nor AOO can be the owner of the account as it would likely violate the terms of that status. Jean Weber wrote: [orcmid] [ .. ] So, the first things to decide are: 1) Do you want to sell through Amazon and other online retailers? Or would Lulu Bookstore be enough? 2) Who will be the account holder with whatever service is selected? Once an account is set up, one can publish a book. 3) Who will prepare the files for uploading? 4) Who will create the cover art? 5) Who will do the various publishing steps? These involve uploading a PDF for interior pages, creating and uploading a separate PDF for the cover, inputting other information and making various selections about paper type, black-and-white vs color interiors, pricing, etc.! But first! Do you want to print the book full-page-size (A4) or reduce the page size to something like 6x9-inch, which is a common trade paperback size. The cost of printing full size is much higher than printing smaller pages, but involves an extra step and software that not everyone has. I'm sure there's more that escapes me at the moment. Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Print copies of Getting Started Guide?
Jean; The problem I see with being able to do this is the owner of the account. Because ASF is a US 501(C)(3)Tax Exempt charity, neither it nor AOO can be the owner of the account as it would likely violate the terms of that status. Jean Weber wrote: Keith, POD (print on demand) is perfect for a group publishing project, because there is no inventory and no one has to take orders or fulfill sales, mail out books, etc. Once the book is uploaded to the POD service, that service takes orders, processes payments, prints and mails out the book, and (at specified intervals) sends any profit to the account holder. There is no upfront cost for using the service; the service provider takes a cut of sales. There are two common ways to publish POD books: 1) through Amazon Kindle Direct (AKD - which now does paperback books as well as ebooks) or 2) through Lulu. Some other services exist, but I'm unfamiliar with them. When I started doing this about 15 years ago, the only practical way to publish was through Lulu, and I've seen no reason to change. Lulu has its own online bookstore, and one can optionally choose "global distribution" to get a book into other online retailers such as Amazon. Some considerations regarding global distribution: 1) Global distribution from Lulu requires the book to have an ISBN, which may cost money to obtain (the amount varies greatly depending on several factors). If selling only through the Lulu bookstore, an ISBN is optional. I am not sure if an ISBN is required by AKD. 2) The requirements for the quality of the content in submitted PDFs are higher for global distribution. For example, the line weights in some screenshots may be too light to be acceptable, and all transparency needs to be removed. These requirements have become more strict in recent years. I assume they are the same for AKD. 3) The price to buyers is higher for books in global distribution, even for the copies sold through the Lulu bookstore. For these reasons, I have not used global distribution for several years although I did for awhile. I found that I got very few sales through Amazon compared to the sales directly through Lulu. Most people apparently weren't finding the books by searching; they were following links from relevant websites (OOo, LO, or my own sites). So, the first things to decide are: 1) Do you want to sell through Amazon and other online retailers? Or would Lulu Bookstore be enough? 2) Who will be the account holder with whatever service is selected? Once an account is set up, one can publish a book. 3) Who will prepare the files for uploading? 4) Who will create the cover art? 5) Who will do the various publishing steps? These involve uploading a PDF for interior pages, creating and uploading a separate PDF for the cover, inputting other information and making various selections about paper type, black-and-white vs color interiors, pricing, etc.! But first! Do you want to print the book full-page-size (A4) or reduce the page size to something like 6x9-inch, which is a common trade paperback size. The cost of printing full size is much higher than printing smaller pages, but involves an extra step and software that not everyone has. I'm sure there's more that escapes me at the moment. Jean On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 3:43 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: Now that the Getting Started Guide for v4.1 is finished, what do you think about making printed copies available? As some of you know, I did this for OOo (and have been doing it for LO), publishing print-on-demand through Lulu .com and selling at only a bit above cost price as a service to those users who prefer a book on paper. Jean Jean; In general I would be in favor of it. I myself much prefer a bound book that I can mark-up and dog-ear pages. If you would send me details of all that would be involved, including any costs associated with it, I cam discuss it with the team, as well as take it to dev@ or the PMC as needed. If others that are following the list have thoughts on this Please feel free to share them. Regards Keith Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fw: Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Forwarding to doc@ Comments inline. - Original Message - From: Dick Groskamp To: "Keith N. McKenna" Date: 2022-06-14 14:14 Subject: Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3 Op 14-6-2022 om 19:35 schreef Keith N. McKenna: Keith N. McKenna wrote: The first thing I saw as I started reviewing the chapters of the writer guide was Francis' not around the handling of the Title page and other front matter. My first inclination is to remove most of it and treat it as we did the Getting Started Guide and put all that information in the ODM file. What do others think? I will start reviewing the content changes only as we continue this discussion. Regards Keith As there has been a flurry of work around problems with generating a proper PDF, I will leave this open until 2022-06-17 17:35 UTC. We need to consensus if this is the way to proceed. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Maybe we could put that in a separate file ( cover page and frontmatter) and add that file to the masterdocument. I did it for the revised masterdocument of the Getting Started guide: Cover and frontmatter --> then the TOC --> then the fil;es for the contents of the guide As I have seen no other replies except the 2 from Digro and Jean, I am going to assume Lazy Consensus and move forward with my initial proposal. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fw: Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3
Jean Weber wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 19:42 Keith N. McKenna wrote: My plan if we did this, was to update the AOODoc template and add the information to it in a generic matter. That is the true beauty of using styles and templates. This way the the documents all have a consistent look and feel. The drawback to this is that you really cannot use the .ODM file as the complete book, as you would have to ship all the files as a complete package as every time you open the ODM file it wants to update all the links and documents. The way around this is to create an ODT file from scratch from the bottom up. Regards Keith Here is how I do it. 1. Compile the book using the .odm 2. Save (or export?) the compiled book to .odt 3. Open the .odt 4. Go into Format > Sections and remove all the sections. This embeds all the sub-documents into the one .odt Jean Jean, Thank you so much, Step 4 is what I was missing when I tried to do it before. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Arrow in the Sidebar
Czesław Wolański wrote: Hi, Apache OpenOffice Wiki, topic "Sidebar" https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar The "Overview" section, 5th paragraph reads: "The width of the sidebar is variable. The controls in its panels are adjusted accordingly. When the sidebar becomes too small to be usable it collapses to the tab bar. This transitional state is indicated by an arrow that is displayed in place of the deck. A click on of the buttons in the tab bar restores the deck to its former width". The arrow is easier to spot when the Sidebar is undocked. Now my question: would it be possible to include information about the arrow in the new AOO guide? Regards, Czesław Wolański Czeslaw; Thanks for brining this to our attention. The Writer Guide is in review now and we will make sure that it is in their and well as the rest of the Guides as they hit review. The Getting Started Guide is in the process of being readied for publication. I will try to get the information in there as well, butit may prove difficult. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fw: Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3
Forwarding to doc@ Comments inline. - Original Message - From: Dick Groskamp To: "Keith N. McKenna" Date: 2022-06-14 14:14 Subject: Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3 Op 14-6-2022 om 19:35 schreef Keith N. McKenna: > Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> The first thing I saw as I started reviewing the chapters of the >> writer guide was Francis' not around the handling of the Title page >> and other front matter. >> >> My first inclination is to remove most of it and treat it as we did >> the Getting Started Guide and put all that information in the ODM >> file. What do others think? >> >> I will start reviewing the content changes only as we continue this >> discussion. >> >> Regards >> Keith > As there has been a flurry of work around problems with generating a > proper PDF, I will leave this open until 2022-06-17 17:35 UTC. We need > to consensus if this is the way to proceed. > > Regards > Keith > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org > Maybe we could put that in a separate file ( cover page and frontmatter) and add that file to the masterdocument. I did it for the revised masterdocument of the Getting Started guide: Cover and frontmatter --> then the TOC --> then the fil;es for the contents of the guide -- DiGro Dick, My plan if we did this, was to update the AOODoc template and add the information to it in a generic matter. That is the true beauty of using styles and templates. This way the the documents all have a consistent look and feel. The drawback to this is that you really cannot use the .ODM file as the complete book, as you would have to ship all the files as a complete package as every time you open the ODM file it wants to update all the links and documents. The way around this is to create an ODT file from scratch from the bottom up. Regards Keith ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3
Keith N. McKenna wrote: The first thing I saw as I started reviewing the chapters of the writer guide was Francis' not around the handling of the Title page and other front matter. My first inclination is to remove most of it and treat it as we did the Getting Started Guide and put all that information in the ODM file. What do others think? I will start reviewing the content changes only as we continue this discussion. Regards Keith As there has been a flurry of work around problems with generating a proper PDF, I will leave this open until 2022-06-17 17:35 UTC. We need to consensus if this is the way to proceed. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
F Campos Costero wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 5:32 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 13-6-2022 om 20:57 schreef Keith N. McKenna: Dick, Francis and Jean. See comments in line Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 12-6-2022 om 22:38 schreef F Campos Costero: I agree with Dick's plan. Thanks for volunteering to start the revisions. I will not be able to help with that during this coming week but I might be able to the following week. I looked briefly at the text near Fig. 15 where Jean noted an error. It seems the paragraph styles are used correctly in that list but the previous list slightly earlier in the document ends with the style OOo List 1 Cont instead of OOo List 1 End. Maybe that is enough to cause the problem? Francis On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: OK, to cut things short: I will go over the chapters in the GitHub ForWiki folder, trying to eliminate the errors I find. After checking all the chapters I will assemble a PDF to see what happens if I make an ODM from the fixed chapters. Meanwhile I would suggest to withdraw the published PDF from the mwiki On 2022/06/12 00:16:41 Jean Weber wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 1:56 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. [...] Jean Jean; [...] What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? Here is a sample of some things I found. There are many, many more. PLEASE NOTE that most of these problems are in the full book, but NOT in the chapter files. There are many inconsistent uses of numbered and/or bulletted lists throughout the book, probably due to incorrect/inconsistent style use. I am not going to itemize all of them, but here are some examples from Chapter 1. Page 19, at the top is a paragraph numbered 1), but the paragraph just before Figure 15 on page 18 should be 1) and this paragraph 2). Further down, there is another paragraph numbered 1), as it should be, but the next paragraph does not have a number, even though it is part of the same procedure; it should be 2). Further down, under Saving a Document Automatically, the two final paragraphs are a procedure and should be numbered 1) and 2). Page 20, the use (or not) of bullet points is inconsistent, and the final paragraph is centered but should not be. A few random examples from other chapters, after which I gave up looking. Page 72 (in Chapter 3), under Adding a Movie or Sound, there is an un-numbered procedure. Further down is an item in a different procedure numbered 3), but the other items in that procedure have no numbers. Under Using Mail Merge, several items should have bullet points. Page 81 (in Chapter 4), there is an item numbered 4), but the other items in the procedure have no numbers. Page 115, list begins with 4) but the actual first list item is not numbered. Some lists use numbers followed by a closing parenthesis; some use numbers followed by a period (full stop). Again, inconsistent style use, though trivial compared to the random use of numbering at all. Other formatting errors are in the chapter files as well as the full book. Examples (there are many others): Page 8, the Note is formatted differently from Notes, Tips, Cautions in other chapters. Page 20, the final paragraph is incorrectly tagged as OOFigure, so it is centered but should not be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Thanks Francis. Found and fixed the error near Figure 15. Have to wait how it tunrs out though :-) In parallel I tried a new tack. I created the pdf direct from the odm file after removing the toc. It can be found in the forwiki folder. Keith delete that. It has problems as well. All ODT files should be checked at the top level. Those in the wiki folder are just copies of the originals. Dick and Francis. How far have you gotten? Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Just completed checking and repairing the files in the ForWiki folder. I'll try to build an ODM and PDF today If all is well then we can replace the top level files by the fixed ones, since they were mere copies of the top level ones I presume. -- DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 13-6-2022 om 20:57 schreef Keith N. McKenna: Dick, Francis and Jean. See comments in line Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 12-6-2022 om 22:38 schreef F Campos Costero: I agree with Dick's plan. Thanks for volunteering to start the revisions. I will not be able to help with that during this coming week but I might be able to the following week. I looked briefly at the text near Fig. 15 where Jean noted an error. It seems the paragraph styles are used correctly in that list but the previous list slightly earlier in the document ends with the style OOo List 1 Cont instead of OOo List 1 End. Maybe that is enough to cause the problem? Francis On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: OK, to cut things short: I will go over the chapters in the GitHub ForWiki folder, trying to eliminate the errors I find. After checking all the chapters I will assemble a PDF to see what happens if I make an ODM from the fixed chapters. Meanwhile I would suggest to withdraw the published PDF from the mwiki On 2022/06/12 00:16:41 Jean Weber wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 1:56 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. [...] Jean Jean; [...] What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? Here is a sample of some things I found. There are many, many more. PLEASE NOTE that most of these problems are in the full book, but NOT in the chapter files. There are many inconsistent uses of numbered and/or bulletted lists throughout the book, probably due to incorrect/inconsistent style use. I am not going to itemize all of them, but here are some examples from Chapter 1. Page 19, at the top is a paragraph numbered 1), but the paragraph just before Figure 15 on page 18 should be 1) and this paragraph 2). Further down, there is another paragraph numbered 1), as it should be, but the next paragraph does not have a number, even though it is part of the same procedure; it should be 2). Further down, under Saving a Document Automatically, the two final paragraphs are a procedure and should be numbered 1) and 2). Page 20, the use (or not) of bullet points is inconsistent, and the final paragraph is centered but should not be. A few random examples from other chapters, after which I gave up looking. Page 72 (in Chapter 3), under Adding a Movie or Sound, there is an un-numbered procedure. Further down is an item in a different procedure numbered 3), but the other items in that procedure have no numbers. Under Using Mail Merge, several items should have bullet points. Page 81 (in Chapter 4), there is an item numbered 4), but the other items in the procedure have no numbers. Page 115, list begins with 4) but the actual first list item is not numbered. Some lists use numbers followed by a closing parenthesis; some use numbers followed by a period (full stop). Again, inconsistent style use, though trivial compared to the random use of numbering at all. Other formatting errors are in the chapter files as well as the full book. Examples (there are many others): Page 8, the Note is formatted differently from Notes, Tips, Cautions in other chapters. Page 20, the final paragraph is incorrectly tagged as OOFigure, so it is centered but should not be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Thanks Francis. Found and fixed the error near Figure 15. Have to wait how it tunrs out though :-) In parallel I tried a new tack. I created the pdf direct from the odm file after removing the toc. It can be found in the forwiki folder. Keith delete that. It has problems as well. All ODT files should be checked at the top level. Those in the wiki folder are just copies of the originals. Dick and Francis. How far have you gotten? Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Just completed checking and repairing the files in the ForWiki folder. I'll try to build an ODM and PDF today If all is well then we can replace the top level files by the fixed ones, since they were mere copies of the top level ones I presume. Quick work Dick and thank you for that. Yes, the files in the ForWiki folder were juts copies od those in the top level. I did it that way to be able to publish the files in different ways and not disturb the others which were supposed to be the published sources files. Regards Keith
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
Dick, Francis and Jean. See comments in line Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 12-6-2022 om 22:38 schreef F Campos Costero: I agree with Dick's plan. Thanks for volunteering to start the revisions. I will not be able to help with that during this coming week but I might be able to the following week. I looked briefly at the text near Fig. 15 where Jean noted an error. It seems the paragraph styles are used correctly in that list but the previous list slightly earlier in the document ends with the style OOo List 1 Cont instead of OOo List 1 End. Maybe that is enough to cause the problem? Francis On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: OK, to cut things short: I will go over the chapters in the GitHub ForWiki folder, trying to eliminate the errors I find. After checking all the chapters I will assemble a PDF to see what happens if I make an ODM from the fixed chapters. Meanwhile I would suggest to withdraw the published PDF from the mwiki On 2022/06/12 00:16:41 Jean Weber wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 1:56 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. [...] Jean Jean; [...] What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? Here is a sample of some things I found. There are many, many more. PLEASE NOTE that most of these problems are in the full book, but NOT in the chapter files. There are many inconsistent uses of numbered and/or bulletted lists throughout the book, probably due to incorrect/inconsistent style use. I am not going to itemize all of them, but here are some examples from Chapter 1. Page 19, at the top is a paragraph numbered 1), but the paragraph just before Figure 15 on page 18 should be 1) and this paragraph 2). Further down, there is another paragraph numbered 1), as it should be, but the next paragraph does not have a number, even though it is part of the same procedure; it should be 2). Further down, under Saving a Document Automatically, the two final paragraphs are a procedure and should be numbered 1) and 2). Page 20, the use (or not) of bullet points is inconsistent, and the final paragraph is centered but should not be. A few random examples from other chapters, after which I gave up looking. Page 72 (in Chapter 3), under Adding a Movie or Sound, there is an un-numbered procedure. Further down is an item in a different procedure numbered 3), but the other items in that procedure have no numbers. Under Using Mail Merge, several items should have bullet points. Page 81 (in Chapter 4), there is an item numbered 4), but the other items in the procedure have no numbers. Page 115, list begins with 4) but the actual first list item is not numbered. Some lists use numbers followed by a closing parenthesis; some use numbers followed by a period (full stop). Again, inconsistent style use, though trivial compared to the random use of numbering at all. Other formatting errors are in the chapter files as well as the full book. Examples (there are many others): Page 8, the Note is formatted differently from Notes, Tips, Cautions in other chapters. Page 20, the final paragraph is incorrectly tagged as OOFigure, so it is centered but should not be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Thanks Francis. Found and fixed the error near Figure 15. Have to wait how it tunrs out though :-) In parallel I tried a new tack. I created the pdf direct from the odm file after removing the toc. It can be found in the forwiki folder. Keith delete that. It has problems as well. All ODT files should be checked at the top level. Those in the wiki folder are just copies of the originals. Dick and Francis. How far have you gotten? Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 12-6-2022 om 22:38 schreef F Campos Costero: I agree with Dick's plan. Thanks for volunteering to start the revisions. I will not be able to help with that during this coming week but I might be able to the following week. I looked briefly at the text near Fig. 15 where Jean noted an error. It seems the paragraph styles are used correctly in that list but the previous list slightly earlier in the document ends with the style OOo List 1 Cont instead of OOo List 1 End. Maybe that is enough to cause the problem? Francis On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM Dick Groskamp wrote: OK, to cut things short: I will go over the chapters in the GitHub ForWiki folder, trying to eliminate the errors I find. After checking all the chapters I will assemble a PDF to see what happens if I make an ODM from the fixed chapters. Meanwhile I would suggest to withdraw the published PDF from the mwiki On 2022/06/12 00:16:41 Jean Weber wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 1:56 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. [...] Jean Jean; [...] What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? Here is a sample of some things I found. There are many, many more. PLEASE NOTE that most of these problems are in the full book, but NOT in the chapter files. There are many inconsistent uses of numbered and/or bulletted lists throughout the book, probably due to incorrect/inconsistent style use. I am not going to itemize all of them, but here are some examples from Chapter 1. Page 19, at the top is a paragraph numbered 1), but the paragraph just before Figure 15 on page 18 should be 1) and this paragraph 2). Further down, there is another paragraph numbered 1), as it should be, but the next paragraph does not have a number, even though it is part of the same procedure; it should be 2). Further down, under Saving a Document Automatically, the two final paragraphs are a procedure and should be numbered 1) and 2). Page 20, the use (or not) of bullet points is inconsistent, and the final paragraph is centered but should not be. A few random examples from other chapters, after which I gave up looking. Page 72 (in Chapter 3), under Adding a Movie or Sound, there is an un-numbered procedure. Further down is an item in a different procedure numbered 3), but the other items in that procedure have no numbers. Under Using Mail Merge, several items should have bullet points. Page 81 (in Chapter 4), there is an item numbered 4), but the other items in the procedure have no numbers. Page 115, list begins with 4) but the actual first list item is not numbered. Some lists use numbers followed by a closing parenthesis; some use numbers followed by a period (full stop). Again, inconsistent style use, though trivial compared to the random use of numbering at all. Other formatting errors are in the chapter files as well as the full book. Examples (there are many others): Page 8, the Note is formatted differently from Notes, Tips, Cautions in other chapters. Page 20, the final paragraph is incorrectly tagged as OOFigure, so it is centered but should not be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org Thanks Francis. Found and fixed the error near Figure 15. Have to wait how it tunrs out though :-) In parallel I tried a new tack. I created the pdf direct from the odm file after removing the toc. It can be found in the forwiki folder. Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Jean Weber wrote: I'm still finding many, many list formatting errors in the PDF and the full-book ODT that are not in the chapter ODTs. Jean Jean, you need to tell me what errors you are seeing. That ODT was Built from the Chapter Files. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
How to handle design of Guides Updated from version 3.3
The first thing I saw as I started reviewing the chapters of the writer guide was Francis' not around the handling of the Title page and other front matter. My first inclination is to remove most of it and treat it as we did the Getting Started Guide and put all that information in the ODM file. What do others think? I will start reviewing the content changes only as we continue this discussion. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Hi Matthias Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Keith, Am 11.06.22 um 19:18 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Matthias Seidel wrote: Sorry, that should have been "Chapter 1 and 6" I do see Chapter 2 twice. Am 11.06.22 um 17:24 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Keith, Am 11.06.22 um 17:19 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Hi Matthias, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Matthias, Yes Chapter six was missing. All the corrections were made and PDF has been uploaded to mwiki. I still see the "old" one: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Next challenge will be using Wiki-Publisher. I tried earlier and the Were not that great. I am going to try the same thing I did with the PDF and upload a version of the ODT withoutthe TOC, and use the wiki tools available to creat the TOC. I am not sure if our Wiki-Publisher is capable of all this, but let's try! Regards, Matthias The Wiki-Publisher is not capable of it, but there are template on the wiki that will do it.Just need to see if they will work. For the PDF, seethe following download link. https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Yes, but I still don't see Chapter 2 and 6? According to our Wiki this is a restored file (1 file restored: Deleted in error). Maybe the wrong file was restored? Regards, Matthias Matthias, please check the the one at the following link: <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/blob/Getting-Sarted-Guide/ForWiki/AOO41GS.pdf> That looks good to me! All chapters are now there and the issue on page 123 is fixed. But, in the document preferences of the PDF it reads "Apache OpenOffice Getting Started GGuide". Notice the double G in Guide. Regards, Matthias A couple of other things came in via my personal that have been fixed as well you can check it from the same link above. Regards Keith Regards Keith Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Matthias Seidel wrote: Sorry, that should have been "Chapter 1 and 6" I do see Chapter 2 twice. Am 11.06.22 um 17:24 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Keith, Am 11.06.22 um 17:19 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Hi Matthias, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Matthias, Yes Chapter six was missing. All the corrections were made and PDF has been uploaded to mwiki. I still see the "old" one: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Next challenge will be using Wiki-Publisher. I tried earlier and the Were not that great. I am going to try the same thing I did with the PDF and upload a version of the ODT withoutthe TOC, and use the wiki tools available to creat the TOC. I am not sure if our Wiki-Publisher is capable of all this, but let's try! Regards, Matthias The Wiki-Publisher is not capable of it, but there are template on the wiki that will do it.Just need to see if they will work. For the PDF, seethe following download link. https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Yes, but I still don't see Chapter 2 and 6? According to our Wiki this is a restored file (1 file restored: Deleted in error). Maybe the wrong file was restored? Regards, Matthias Matthias, please check the the one at the following link: <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/blob/Getting-Sarted-Guide/ForWiki/AOO41GS.pdf> Regards Keith Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. Perhaps I am looking at the wrong file? I'm completely lost about where to find the latest iterations of ODTs or PDFs. Jean Jean; If you downloaded the pdf from the mwiki that is a PDFA-1a created from an ODT file. The only difference is that I stripped the TOC as the A-1a format turns the TOC in an image to delete the transparency, and exported the bookmarks to serve as a linked TOC.What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? the ODT and ODM documents can be found on githup at the following link: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/tree/main/Getting%20Started The PDF and the the ODT it was created on is still on my system as they are still a work in progress. I can make them available to if if you would like. Regards Keith Jean and Dick; Found the problem I think. Please check the file at: <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/blob/Getting-Sarted-Guide/ForWiki/AOO41GS.pdf> Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Formatting Errors in PDF of Getting Started Guide
Jean Weber wrote: The PDF of the Getting Started Guide has many serious formatting errors which I do not see in the chapter ODTs. Perhaps I am looking at the wrong file? I'm completely lost about where to find the latest iterations of ODTs or PDFs. Jean Jean; If you downloaded the pdf from the mwiki that is a PDFA-1a created from an ODT file. The only difference is that I stripped the TOC as the A-1a format turns the TOC in an image to delete the transparency, and exported the bookmarks to serve as a linked TOC.What sort of formatting errors are you seeing? the ODT and ODM documents can be found on githup at the following link: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/tree/main/Getting%20Started The PDF and the the ODT it was created on is still on my system as they are still a work in progress. I can make them available to if if you would like. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Matthias Seidel wrote: Sorry, that should have been "Chapter 1 and 6" I do see Chapter 2 twice. Am 11.06.22 um 17:24 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Keith, Am 11.06.22 um 17:19 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Hi Matthias, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Matthias, Yes Chapter six was missing. All the corrections were made and PDF has been uploaded to mwiki. I still see the "old" one: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Next challenge will be using Wiki-Publisher. I tried earlier and the Were not that great. I am going to try the same thing I did with the PDF and upload a version of the ODT withoutthe TOC, and use the wiki tools available to creat the TOC. I am not sure if our Wiki-Publisher is capable of all this, but let's try! Regards, Matthias The Wiki-Publisher is not capable of it, but there are template on the wiki that will do it.Just need to see if they will work. For the PDF, seethe following download link. https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Yes, but I still don't see Chapter 2 and 6? According to our Wiki this is a restored file (1 file restored: Deleted in error). Maybe the wrong file was restored? Regards, Matthias Regards Keith No the proper file was restored, somehow chapter 6 was lost. wil;l redo it one more time Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Hi Matthias, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Matthias, Yes Chapter six was missing. All the corrections were made and PDF has been uploaded to mwiki. I still see the "old" one: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Next challenge will be using Wiki-Publisher. I tried earlier and the Were not that great. I am going to try the same thing I did with the PDF and upload a version of the ODT withoutthe TOC, and use the wiki tools available to creat the TOC. I am not sure if our Wiki-Publisher is capable of all this, but let's try! Regards, Matthias The Wiki-Publisher is not capable of it, but there are template on the wiki that will do it.Just need to see if they will work. For the PDF, seethe following download link. https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/b/b1/AOO41GS.pdf Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Keith, Am 10.06.22 um 14:50 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: GitBox wrote: Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/57#issuecomment-1151680672 Hi Keith, Is Chapter 1 missing? I see Chapter 2 twice... And on page 123 it is "Open Office" instead of "OpenOffice" Hi Matthias; Thanks for reporting this. Checking what went wrong know. Thanks! Additionally I think Chapter 6 is also missing. Regards, Matthias Hi Matthias, Yes Chapter six was missing. All the corrections were made and PDF has been uploaded to mwiki. Next challenge will be using Wiki-Publisher. I tried earlier and the Were not that great. I am going to try the same thing I did with the PDF and upload a version of the ODT withoutthe TOC, and use the wiki tools available to creat the TOC. Regards Keith Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: Publish AOO41GS PDF to mwiki
GitBox wrote: Pilot-Pirx commented on issue #57: URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/57#issuecomment-1151680672 Hi Keith, Is Chapter 1 missing? I see Chapter 2 twice... And on page 123 it is "Open Office" instead of "OpenOffice" Hi Matthias; Thanks for reporting this. Checking what went wrong know. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Print copies of Getting Started Guide?
Jean Weber wrote: Now that the Getting Started Guide for v4.1 is finished, what do you think about making printed copies available? As some of you know, I did this for OOo (and have been doing it for LO), publishing print-on-demand through Lulu .com and selling at only a bit above cost price as a service to those users who prefer a book on paper. Jean Jean; In general I would be in favor of it. I myself much prefer a bound book that I can mark-up and dog-ear pages. If you would send me details of all that would be involved, including any costs associated with it, I cam discuss it with the team, as well as take it to dev@ or the PMC as needed. If others that are following the list have thoughts on this Please feel free to share them. Regards Keith Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thoughts for moving forward
Thanks everybody for your input.I agree that that the 4.2.0 schedule is so nebulous that it makes sense to forge ahead with the 4.1.x documentation.I will start splitting my time with getting the Getting Started one files published to the wiki and starting the review of the Writer and Calk guides. If we can all start Doing issues and assigning ourselves to them in the project so that we know who is doing what and then closing the issue when the work is completed it will go a long way towards knowing where we are at any point in time. Francis for know just post on the list what you are working on and either Digro or I will assign you to the issue. Again, thank you all for ypur ideas and the hard work that you have doneto move us closer to having Sold documentation for the users. Regards Keith Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 8-6-2022 om 16:43 schreef Matthias Seidel: Hi, Am 08.06.22 um 16:41 schrieb F Campos Costero: On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:22 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dennis Hamilton wrote: Here's my recommendation. 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer power to advance the Guides for 4.1. 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your control. Not ever. 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. Regards, - Dennis Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org I agree with Dennis that we should not wait for 4.2. I doubt that the changes between 4.1.x and 4.2 will cause anything like the number of revisions needed to update the existing guides Fortunately that's not fact... to match the current release and the schedule for 4.2 cannot even be guessed. Let's just plow ahead. But that's true. Don't wait for 4.2.0. ;-) Regards, Matthias Regards, Francis Already started first round of review for Impress and Draw. So, I agree not to wait for 4.2.0 but trying to fullfill 4.1.x on built on from there - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
