Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tuner Operation Question

2008-03-05 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I thought it was less than 5 watts.  I'd prefer it to be a lot less - I'd
rather not pollute the air while tuning up.


On 05/03/2008 03:53, Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 
 
 How does the K3 Tuner work?  Does it tune at a lower wattage?  If so, what is
 that?  I am not sure there is a setup for the tuner...or am I missing
 something.  Mine tunes the antenna at 5 wattsbut should that not be
 higher?  Like 20 watts?  I know it will take the 100 watts and does well...I
 am just asking if there is a set up?  I cannot find any in the manuals.
 
 Lee
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-05 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
Larry et al, 

On 4 Mar 2008 at 9:40, Larry Phipps wrote:

 You can create a one plug by buying a serial device server from
 someone like Lantronix or Digi for the control portion of the link. It
 connects to the K3 serial port, and converts it into an ethernet port,
 which can be plugged into a router/modem. Make sure you get a model
 that fully supports handshaking if you are using a handshaking line
 for CW keying or PTT. You connect to the remote port using a com port
 redirector program, supplied free from Lantronix and others, which
 creates virtual com ports for you to connect to.

we have tried successfully such an approach for remote controlling a 
transceiver and Pactor Modem via the Internet. I was running Airmail, 
connected to a virtual port on my PC. This virtual port was bridged over the 
Internet and forwarded from the distant router to the IP-serial converter. The 
Ptc-2 modem was connected to the serial port of the converter. 
I could use all functions of the modem and remote control the transceiver.
(38k4 serial Baudrate). 

Your LP-Bridge sounds very promising - looking forward to all these 
possibilities when my K3 is here. 

73! de Werner
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Re: [Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO

2008-03-05 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Sorry to continue this thread (1 and only post on this), but 

I don't remember it being described as 0.5ppm - only as 1ppm - it's on the
order page as +/- 1ppm.

OK, so there may have been a mail saying with firmware Elecraft might be
able to better that (I can't be bothered to search the archives to find out
frankly).

But its sold as a 1ppm TCXO. I don't believe it is advertised as anything
other than a 1ppm. The only ref. I can find on the K3 products page is:
- All signal sources phase-locked to common 49.380 MHz reference
oscillator; 1 PPM TCXO option

As one who has railed against the previous delivery delays and is still
waiting for the KRX3 and KDVR3 (lets not go there, I know and accept why the
delays), I think I must defend them on this one - they are not advertising
something here that you are not getting.

73 de M0XDF / K3 #174


On 04/03/2008 22:41, S Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Hi Brett  -
 
 I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.  I PAID for .5 ppm
 capability, and it's not available to me.  Further, Elecraft continues
 to advertise and sell it, but makes no effort to disclose that you
 won't be getting everything you paid for.
 
 It should be painfully obvious that there are two issues here - one is
 that the firmware isn't available, and, the other the way Elecraft
 choses to handle that problem.
 
 I find their approach to be very disrespectful of their customers, and
 it's apparently SOP for them.
 
 Let's end this here, okay?  I think we've both stated our opinions
 very well, and obviously each of us is steadfast in our position.
 
 73,
 Steve NN4X
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't remember how or why but I knew that it wasn't done before you'd
  mentioned being upset about it.  I wish I knew where it was that I'd learned
  that but to me it was made very clear that this capability wasn't there yet.
  Have you noted a difference between the 1ppm you have and the 0.5ppm that
  they haven't released yet?
 
  I'd hope that you realized that there were still some options that weren't
  fully ready yet and that they were going to be coming in the near future.
  This is a small piece of the pie and I'm willing to bet its something that
  you don't even notice and probably don't even have the equipment (or at the
  very least time) to test it.  I think I'd just not fret the numbers and just
  enjoy the hobby...  I understand being upset that the feature isn't there
  instantly but it's a pretty minor deal considering the cost that you paid
  for the best receiver in the market right now isn't it?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S Sacco
 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:37 AM
  To: Elecraft Users
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO
 
  Hi Brett -
 
  Simply because they're advertising it with that capability (.5 ppm),
  and generally figure that if something's being represented and sold
  with certain capabilities, it should have same, and if it doesn't, it
  should be disclosed at time of sale.
 
  It's been a long time, but I'll guess that I imagined, back last June,
  that it would be available by the time I took delivery.
 
  Thanks  73,
 
  Steve NN4X
 
 
 
  On 3/4/08, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You do still get a 4ppm improvement so why wouldn't they take money for
  the
 units?  Granted the software is supposed to help make a small extra
 improvement but I don't see any reason why this would prevent them from
 selling the higher accuracy TCXO.  Not sure why I think it may have been
 this list but I knew that that wasn't implemented yet.  Maybe it was a
 manual errata or something.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: S Sacco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:31 AM
 To: Brett Howard
 Cc: Elecraft Users
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO
 
 
 
 Brett -
 
 I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to your question: Elecraft still
 isn't shipping firmware to support the 1ppm TCXO...although they ARE
 happily taking our money for the units.  (I have one installed).
 
 73,
 Steve NN4X
 
 
 On 3/4/08, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the higher accuracy TCXO result in lower phase noise?  If so in dB
 how much lower would one expect out of a delta in 4 ppm and 4.5 ppm.
 This is assuming the 4ppm which one will get with out implementation of
 firmware correction and 4.5 ppm delta which one will obtain once this
 feature is implemented in firmware.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread G4ILO


Dave Martin-2 wrote:
 
 I imagine so.  I've found that at my place it takes a long time even
 to produce buggy code.  You guys are writing good stuff.  You're the
 berries.
 
Having to go through that process every time they want to test it must be a
good incentive to write code that is *not* buggy. Though not quite as bad as
when I learned to program, when you had to get the code punched up on cards,
then take the deck down to the computer room and put it in the in tray,
then wait a couple of hours until they had time to run it.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-05 Thread Jon K Hellan

ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Be careful what you ask for; you might get it. When the Ten-tec Omni 7 was
announced with an Ethernet port offering direct Internet access, I thought
it was a wonderful development.


If you really want to go high end, include an optical Ethernet 
interface. Wired ethernet tends to give problems with RFI. If you hear a 
steady signal around 14030, that's Ethernet.


Cost? Probably too high for comfort for most of us. But you may come 
across something surplus.

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[Elecraft] re. Mobile/portable antennas

2008-03-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge

Yes I was refering to mobile operations , or parked up operating from a 4wd.
I have no experience of portable operations of the type you describe.
My idea of portable is my K2 on the balcony of a hotel overlooking  a 
beach with my Ozzipole antenna on the balcony rail.
No I'm not being sarcastic so please dont take it that way, I hate 
camping, temps over 40*c, flies, ants, bugs, warm beer.

Its just not me. I like the comforts of a king size bed and a bar fridge !
So please dont take me wrong, I was and still am referring to mobile 
from a vehicle, thats were the Outbacker does such a good job in the 
Australian Outback.
Most other mobile whips just dont survive the conditions here, thats why 
the Police, Army etc use them.
Very few camp sites here in Western Australia have room for or allow 
anything more than a tv antenna or small dish, and that coupled with 
exteme interference from cheap gen sets all but makes HF impossible.
A friend lives more or less permanently in a mobile home and has to park 
illegally off road to use his HF gear .
I wish you well with your portable operations and I'm sure your antenna 
system will work well based on what you have described.

vy 73
Keith


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[Elecraft] K3:Smeter/Quas peak?

2008-03-05 Thread Craig
Is the K3's S-meter quasi peak in nature when operated
with the peak detection on? Does it have  precise
values of decay and attack times?

Craig
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tuner Operation Question

2008-03-05 Thread Mike B
Good morning, Lee.  Per the C1-3 Errata (Feb 1), CONFIG:TUN PWR was added to 
control the power level at which the TUNE button works, so that function is 
controllable.


However, the same errata states that, Note: TUN PWR does not pertain to ATU 
TUNE, which always uses 5 or 10 W and is internally controlled.


It would seem to me that if you can tune at 2 or 5 watts, there's no point in 
running it at any higher level.  Itune my remoted LDG autotuner at 2 watts, and 
could most likely crank it down some more.


It is getting harder to keep track of changes with all the errata scattered on 
the table.  I may have to use the electronic versions  create a master errata 
sheet instead of looking at individual pages.


Lee Buller wrote:


How does the K3 Tuner work?  Does it tune at a lower wattage?



73,

Mike
KW1ND


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tuner Operation Question

2008-03-05 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
or just use the electronic form - I just keep latest man on HD and reader it
- easier to search too.

BTW - I can tune my SG-237 on 3w, but it doesn't tune reliably on less (3w
is stated in the SG spec).

73 de M0XDF / K3 #174


On 05/03/2008 12:20, Mike B [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Good morning, Lee.  Per the C1-3 Errata (Feb 1), CONFIG:TUN PWR was added to
 control the power level at which the TUNE button works, so that function is
 controllable.
 
 However, the same errata states that, Note: TUN PWR does not pertain to ATU
 TUNE, which always uses 5 or 10 W and is internally controlled.
 
 It would seem to me that if you can tune at 2 or 5 watts, there's no point in
 running it at any higher level.  Itune my remoted LDG autotuner at 2 watts,
 and 
 could most likely crank it down some more.
 
 It is getting harder to keep track of changes with all the errata scattered on
 the table.  I may have to use the electronic versions  create a master
 errata 
 sheet instead of looking at individual pages.
 
 Lee Buller wrote:
 
 How does the K3 Tuner work?  Does it tune at a lower wattage?
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[Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Calibration

2008-03-05 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I found the WMTR LP and WMTR HP menus and made the appropriate adjustments. 
My power output is now 96.7 to 99.4 watts on all bands except 10 meters. 
The output on 10 meters is 91.0 on 28 and 91.6 on 29.7.  Is this power 
output on 10 meters normal?


How are you measuring your actual power?  Is your 50 ohm load still 1:1 SWR 
at 10 meters (will impact readings if using an in-line wattmeter with 
marginal directivity)?  And how accurate is your external wattmeter?  I've 
found that a lot of wattmeters drop off in indicated power as you go higher 
in frequency unless there is something in the design to compensate for this. 
I think the most accurate way to measure power is to use a diode detector, 
but you must still have a precision 50 ohm load, and also verify that your 
voltmeter reads correctly using a precision voltage reference.


Phil - AD5X 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tuner Operation Question

2008-03-05 Thread G4ILO

I set the tuning power level to 2W to tune my MFJ magnetic loop, but when I
used SSB at the weekend to work a few stations in the contest I noticed that
the SWR reading was peaking quite a bit. At 2W the K3 SWR meter would never
read below 1.2:1. I increased the tuning power level to 3W, and that enabled
me to detect a minimum of 1.1:1 for a more exact match, but perhaps there
would be more of an improvement to be gained at 5W.

I guess one reason the K3 tuner seems less sensitive to me is that the K2
internal tuner was designed for QRP, 10W, whereas the K3 tuner is the same
in both 10 and 100W models.

One thing I notice is that the K3 relays whirr whenever you press the Tune
button, even if the antenna is already matched, whereas the K2 just
transmitted a burst of RF for a fraction of a second, saw it was already
matched, and didn't enter the tune procedure at all.

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RE: [Elecraft] Another source for Anderson PowerPole type connectors

2008-03-05 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Peter, 

On 4 Mar 2008 at 14:31, Peter Howson wrote:

 I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code
 TH-030 LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried
 it.

from the picture I think it can only be used when two powerpoles are sitting 
in the cable and not when one is hidden in the housing of the transceiver.

73! de Werner
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[Elecraft] K3 Data Mode Operational Question

2008-03-05 Thread Lee Buller


I've been working with the K3 on data modes.  I hope I have this correct.

To move between RTTY and PSK31...you have to change (for example) between AFSK 
A and DATA A.  (Using AFSK...would be different for FSK)

I guess with the newest firmware, you could make a memory for each band and for 
each mode...SSB, CW, AFSK, DATA.

Does the Filters track with the Data Mode?  Such as the wide filter for DATA A 
while AFSK A would use the narrow filter.  Mine does not seem to track.

I think I have the correct...could someone confirm this or show me the wrong 
turn I've made.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Data Mode Operational Question

2008-03-05 Thread Lyle Johnson

To move between RTTY and PSK31...you have to change (for example) between AFSK 
A and DATA A.  (Using AFSK...would be different for FSK)


You can do AFSK-based RTTY (AFSK, PSK31, Throb, Pactor - whatever) by 
using DATA A.


The K3 AFSK mode is a special case of DATA A in that the frequency 
display is tied to the tone pair selected on the K3, and the internal 
RTTY decoder is active.  If you are not going to use the internal 
decoder, you can use DATA A for all soundcard-based modes.


Does the Filters track with the Data Mode?  


In DATA A mode, you have to use the shift/width or lo cut/hi cut 
controls to adjust the selectivity. Or tap XFIL.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Calibration

2008-03-05 Thread Bill W4ZV



Roy Morris-6 wrote:
 
 I found the WMTR LP and WMTR HP menus and made the appropriate
 adjustments.  My power output is now 96.7 to 99.4 watts on all bands
 except 10 meters.  The output on 10 meters is 91.0 on 28 and 91.6 on 29.7. 
 Is this power output on 10 meters normal?
 

Mine was also a little lower on 10m than the other bands.  The following was
measured with requested power set to the 120W maximum.

http://www.nabble.com/K3---internal-TX-PWR-meter-accuracy--td15274707.html

Using N8LP's LP-100 (factory calibration) after calibrating at 50W per the
manual:

BandMax Power (set to 120W)

160  110.0
80111.7
60112.8
40105.0
30111.9
20111,7
17110.5
15109.7
12111.1
10106.9
6  109.7

Power accuracy is better than 5% at any frequency from ~1W to maximum, 3%
typical with NIST traceable factory calibration

http://telepostinc.com/lp100.html

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Re: [Elecraft] Another source for Anderson PowerPole type connectors

2008-03-05 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Correct, it has 2 pins that go in the hole and a clip that goes down the
back of each end


On 05/03/2008 13:48, Dr. Werner Furlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 hi Peter, 
 
 On 4 Mar 2008 at 14:31, Peter Howson wrote:
 
 I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code
 TH-030 LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried
 it.
 
 from the picture I think it can only be used when two powerpoles are sitting
 in the cable and not when one is hidden in the housing of the transceiver.
 
 73! de Werner
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: Another source for Anderson PowerPole type connectors

2008-03-05 Thread John D'Ausilio
This is a secret not many are aware of .. not only do they have very
nice cables (comprised of many fine strands) but also distribution
blocks, fuse and circuit breaker boxes, terminals, etc.

de w1rt/john

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, KM5Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul mentioned problem when using large stiff wire. I found a local
  source of EXTREMELY flexible wire in sizes to #8 and larger -- a car
  audio shop that sells those terrible hyper-bass systems. Nice wire!!

  Windy KM5Q



   I have been using PowerPoles for the past few years with mixed
   results.
   Clearly, when large gauge, stiff wire is used on the smaller
   PowerPoles,
   some other means of securing the cable and connector is necessary.
  
   ...
  
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[Elecraft] voltage

2008-03-05 Thread William Marshall Denny II

Hello to all,
A annoyance with my k2 is that the voltage reading when I tap the 
display button reads 1 full volt low comparied to both of my multimeters.

Is there a way to adjust for this error?

--
Respectfully,


William Marshall Denny II
AI4CM

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[Elecraft] Securing PowerPoles

2008-03-05 Thread Neal Enault
Being inherently cheap, I try to avoid buying commercial solutions.
   
  Mated PowerPole connectors can be secured by passing a skinny tie wrap, or a 
piece of hookup wire through the holes that are created when two blocks are 
dovetailed together.  It's a little awkward to describe this technically, 
because in aerospace parlance, a mated connector consists of two connector 
halves.  I'm not sure how to describe PowerPoles when each connector half 
consists of two pieces.  hi hi
   
  When terminating small gauge wires in PowerPoles, strain relief is always a 
concern.  Simply pass a piece of hookup wire through the hole and take both 
ends back alongside the wires entering the PowerPoles.  Add a few turns of 
electrical tape and secure with a tie wrap. 
   
  72, Neal WA6OCP
  K3/10/305
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Re: [Elecraft] Securing PowerPoles

2008-03-05 Thread Gary Bartlett VE1RGB
   A small drop of hot-melt glue at the hole works well too, and peels 
off if one has to disassemble.


Gary, VE1RGB


Neal Enault wrote:

Being inherently cheap, I try to avoid buying commercial solutions.
   
  Mated PowerPole connectors can be secured by passing a skinny tie wrap, or a piece of hookup wire through the holes that are created when two blocks are dovetailed together.  It's a little awkward to describe this technically, because in aerospace parlance, a mated connector consists of two connector halves.  I'm not sure how to describe PowerPoles when each connector half consists of two pieces.  hi hi
   
  When terminating small gauge wires in PowerPoles, strain relief is always a concern.  Simply pass a piece of hookup wire through the hole and take both ends back alongside the wires entering the PowerPoles.  Add a few turns of electrical tape and secure with a tie wrap. 
   
  72, Neal WA6OCP

  K3/10/305
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 12M odd behavoir, END message

2008-03-05 Thread Stephen Prior
Bill,

I have exactly what you saw.  Having reduced freq from above 25MHz there was
still no output even though I was now in the 12m band.  QSY to within any
other band and still no output. How strange!  I'm using latest firmware etc.

As with you, TX was restored by changing the power level.  And the radio
works fb otherwise.  So you are not alone...!


73 Stephen G4SJP



On 4/3/08 22:12, Bill Coleman  N2BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bear with me, this is strange  K2 / 06254  built last Fall
 
 A few days ago I fixed a problem on my K2 (low output on 15/12/10).
 Yesterday I finished a complete alignment and today reinstalled the KPA100.
 
 So...  its lashed to a dummy load and I'm stepping through the bands to make
 sure the KPA100 is happy. I get to 12M and the VFO happens to be set to
 25000.00, I tap the key.  No output and I get an END message on the
 display.
 
 Move the VFO to inside the band, no more END message but still no output.
 Change the power level - now there is normal output!
 
 In fact, if I recreate the setup (freq to 25000.00 or higher, tap the key,
 get END), then change to any other band - there is no output until I
 change the power setting.
 
 I couldn't find this mentioned in any of the archives.  Is the firmware
 getting confused or do I have a unique gremlin?  The only reference to the
 END msg I can find in the book is CAL PLL.
 
 It's working 100% otherwise.  Would appreciate it if somebody else would
 give this a try!
 
 THX  73,  Bill  N2BC
 
 
  
 
 
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread Brett Howard
When we attempt to cut code loose it has to go through our software test
department.  That takes 2 weeks and if they find a bug you just get dumped
with the bugs returned.  Then once they are fixed you begin the 2 week
process all over again...  Very good incentive to make things as clean as
possible.

-Original Message-
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Dave Martin-2 wrote:
 
 I imagine so.  I've found that at my place it takes a long time even
 to produce buggy code.  You guys are writing good stuff.  You're the
 berries.
 
Having to go through that process every time they want to test it must be a
good incentive to write code that is *not* buggy. Though not quite as bad as
when I learned to program, when you had to get the code punched up on cards,
then take the deck down to the computer room and put it in the in tray,
then wait a couple of hours until they had time to run it.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
I really can't imagine why anyone would want to put a 20MHz clock
inside a sensitive HF radio...

If you want ethernet control, I suggest that you google ethernet serial
port. You'll find a handful of boxes for under $100 that have a
serial port on one end and an ethernet port on the other.

I'll be that if you buy one for yourself and one to send to Simon,
he'll have HRD talking to it and a K3 in short order :-)

73 de chris K6DBG
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[Elecraft] K3 #526 arrived in DL yesterday

2008-03-05 Thread Henning, DL1OJ

Hello all,

K3 #526 arrived in northern DL yesterday.
Initial order date was 08 Jul 2007.
I ordered the kit version and placed no deposit.

The lisagram arrived on 27 Feb 2008. The parcel left Aptos on 29 Feb 2008.

Unfortunately there is hardly any time to do inventory, building, 
testing, operating... but the weekend comes...



73 de Henning, DL1OJ
K2 #1444
K3 #526
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[Elecraft] DATA A mode audio inputs

2008-03-05 Thread Bill W5WVO
This question may have been asked and answered earlier, but I can't find it. 
When using DATA A for audio sound card modes and selecting the rear-panel 
line-in and line-out jacks, is the audio from the mic (both front and rear 
panel) disconnected, such that the only audio coming into the transmitter is 
from the line jack? I have an email from TigerTronics saying they believe it is 
not disconnected, thus allowing random mic inputs to mix with the sound card 
audio coming in through the Line connection. I would like to disabuse them of 
this belief if possible.

Bill W5WVO
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 voltage drop

2008-03-05 Thread Bill Harris

I am experiencing the same problem with my K3. Using the factory supplied power 
lead. I measure a 1 volt drop between the power supply terminals and the K3 
voltage reading at 100watts input (15.68 amps). I suspect most of the drop is 
from the power lead and if so, seems a little excessive. I'll measure directly 
across the PL to confirm this.

Later
Bill Harris w7kxb

 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:05:00 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] voltage
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 Marshall,
 
 There is no adjustment - The voltage measuring circuits are usually 
 quite accurate (fixed with 1% resistors).
 
 1 volt is a lot of difference.  Normally there will be a 0.3 volt 
 difference between the actual power supply voltage and the voltage 
 internal to the K2 because of the voltage drop across the reverse 
 polarity protection diode D10 and there may be a bit of voltage drop 
 across F1 (the resettable fuse).
 If you really have a 1 volt drop, you should look for a bad solder 
 connection in the DC supply line.
 
 Also, where are you measuring the  voltage?  If you are measuring it 
 directly at the power supply, examine the connecting cable carefully and 
 be certain its connection to the power supply is tight - loose 
 connections will cause a significant voltage drop which varies with the 
 current drawn.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] voltage

2008-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Marshall,

There is no adjustment - The voltage measuring circuits are usually 
quite accurate (fixed with 1% resistors).


1 volt is a lot of difference.  Normally there will be a 0.3 volt 
difference between the actual power supply voltage and the voltage 
internal to the K2 because of the voltage drop across the reverse 
polarity protection diode D10 and there may be a bit of voltage drop 
across F1 (the resettable fuse).
If you really have a 1 volt drop, you should look for a bad solder 
connection in the DC supply line.


Also, where are you measuring the  voltage?  If you are measuring it 
directly at the power supply, examine the connecting cable carefully and 
be certain its connection to the power supply is tight - loose 
connections will cause a significant voltage drop which varies with the 
current drawn.


73,
Don W3FPR

William Marshall Denny II wrote:

Hello to all,
A annoyance with my k2 is that the voltage reading when I tap the 
display button reads 1 full volt low comparied to both of my multimeters.

Is there a way to adjust for this error?


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Re: [Elecraft] voltage

2008-03-05 Thread Kevin Cozens

William Marshall Denny II wrote:
A annoyance with my k2 is that the voltage reading when I tap the 
display button reads 1 full volt low comparied to both of my multimeters.

Is there a way to adjust for this error?


The reading when you tap the display button is the voltage read inside the K2 
after the protective diode. Are you measuring the voltage of the external 
power supply feeding the K2 with your multimeters? If so, you can expect a 
difference of about 0.7 volts (or about 0.3 in newer K2's or ones that are 
using the newer low voltage drop diode).


--
Cheers!

Kevin.

http://www.ve3syb.ca/   |What are we going to do today, Borg?
Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172  |Same thing we always do, Pinkutus:
|  Try to assimilate the world!
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-05 Thread walter renner
chris K6DBG said:


If you want ethernet control, I suggest that you google ethernet serial
port. You'll find a handful of boxes for under $100 that have a
serial port on one end and an ethernet port on the other.


As I understand it, the serial port will not pass audio. How would the box help 
here?

Kurt  K0ARO
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Re: [Elecraft] DATA A mode audio inputs

2008-03-05 Thread Lyle Johnson

This question may have been asked and answered earlier, but I can't find it. 
When using DATA A for audio sound card modes and selecting the rear-panel 
line-in and line-out jacks, is the audio from the mic (both front and rear 
panel) disconnected, such that the only audio coming into the transmitter is 
from the line jack? I have an email from TigerTronics saying they believe it is 
not disconnected, thus allowing random mic inputs to mix with the sound card 
audio coming in through the Line connection. I would like to disabuse them of 
this belief if possible.


Currently, if you select FP mic or RP mic or LINE IN, that is the only 
active Tx audio input.  The two not currently selected are not used, and 
do not mix.


We will have an update that allows LINE In + either of the mic inputs, 
but it is not released yet.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 12M odd behavoir, END message

2008-03-05 Thread Bill Coleman N2BC
This is normal according to our resident guru, W3FPR.   The END signifies 
out of band - a lockout for the US CB frequencies.  The K2 sets power to 0. 
The power stays at 0 until you tweak the power control no matter where you 
dial the VFO or what band you set.


Thanks Stephen!


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill Coleman N2BC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 12M odd behavoir, END message



Bill,

I have exactly what you saw.  Having reduced freq from above 25MHz there 
was

still no output even though I was now in the 12m band.  QSY to within any
other band and still no output. How strange!  I'm using latest firmware 
etc.


As with you, TX was restored by changing the power level.  And the radio
works fb otherwise.  So you are not alone...!


73 Stephen G4SJP



On 4/3/08 22:12, Bill Coleman  N2BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bear with me, this is strange  K2 / 06254  built last Fall

A few days ago I fixed a problem on my K2 (low output on 15/12/10).
Yesterday I finished a complete alignment and today reinstalled the 
KPA100.


So...  its lashed to a dummy load and I'm stepping through the bands to 
make

sure the KPA100 is happy. I get to 12M and the VFO happens to be set to
25000.00, I tap the key.  No output and I get an END message on the
display.

Move the VFO to inside the band, no more END message but still no 
output.

Change the power level - now there is normal output!

In fact, if I recreate the setup (freq to 25000.00 or higher, tap the 
key,

get END), then change to any other band - there is no output until I
change the power setting.

I couldn't find this mentioned in any of the archives.  Is the firmware
getting confused or do I have a unique gremlin?  The only reference to 
the

END msg I can find in the book is CAL PLL.

It's working 100% otherwise.  Would appreciate it if somebody else would
give this a try!

THX  73,  Bill  N2BC





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[Elecraft] k2 at warp speed

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
hi hows this for speed my freind ordered a k2 and acc's for me saterday 
afternoon 1st march .
it was posted from elecraft monday the 3rd march .it was at my freinds 
house10am today 
wow was that fast or what i cant wait to get the k2 kit get building now i need 
some time 
off work thanks chris g0wfh
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-05 Thread Ian Stirling
  Some Linksys wireless routers have two serial ports at logic level
on the PCB. Linksys firmware doesn't support them.  Install OpenWRT
and add a couple of level shifters and a mundane router becomes very
versatile.
  Versions 1 to 4 of the WRT54G are compatible with OpenWRT and
so is the one I have, WRT54GL.  Many more from other manufacturers
are supported.
 http://openwrt.org
 http://toh.openwrt.org

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread Bill W5WVO

G4ILO wrote:


not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get
the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer
room and put it in the in tray, then wait a couple of hours until
they had time to run it.


And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you find 
out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe 
to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody down 
there is livid at you. :-)  Good luck getting them to run your next job at 
all! Ah, the not-so-good old days...


Bill W5WVO



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 voltage drop

2008-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

Be certain you make the measurement under load.  Measure both at the APP 
power connector at the K3 end and at the power supply (with the same 
load current). You can then calculate the voltage drop on the lead and 
also the resistance of the path.  Compare the resistance with a wire 
table for the same gauge wire (remember that the total conductor path 
length is twice the cable length) to determine whether the resistance in 
your cable is excessive.


73,
Don W3FPR

Bill Harris wrote:
I am experiencing the same problem with my K3. Using the factory 
supplied power lead. I measure a 1 volt drop between the power supply 
terminals and the K3 voltage reading at 100watts input (15.68 amps). I 
suspect most of the drop is from the power lead and if so, seems a 
little excessive. I'll measure directly across the PL to confirm this.


Later
Bill Harris w7kxb

 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:05:00 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] voltage
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

 Marshall,

 There is no adjustment - The voltage measuring circuits are usually
 quite accurate (fixed with 1% resistors).

 1 volt is a lot of difference. Normally there will be a 0.3 volt
 difference between the actual power supply voltage and the voltage
 internal to the K2 because of the voltage drop across the reverse
 polarity protection diode D10 and there may be a bit of voltage drop
 across F1 (the resettable fuse).
 If you really have a 1 volt drop, you should look for a bad solder
 connection in the DC supply line.

 Also, where are you measuring the voltage? If you are measuring it
 directly at the power supply, examine the connecting cable carefully 
and

 be certain its connection to the power supply is tight - loose
 connections will cause a significant voltage drop which varies with the
 current drawn.

 73,
 Don W3FPR



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[Elecraft] Shipping Status page...

2008-03-05 Thread Dave G.
Would there be any possibility of updating the Shipping Status page about 
every two weeks??
The last update was Feb 15th...

Tnx...
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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But I'm not so sure about the universe.  ... Albert Einstein.

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status page...

2008-03-05 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
I took the buy it now and figure out when I'll actually get it later
approach!  Back then they said orders would ship in May.  I'm keeping
my fingers crossed for field day.

73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Dave G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would there be any possibility of updating the Shipping Status page about
 every two weeks??
 The last update was Feb 15th...

 Tnx...
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Re: [Elecraft] k2 at warp speed

2008-03-05 Thread Leo PA5LS


Your friend is lucky, I orderd a K2 on Feb 29 and all I have so far is an
automated email conformation, oddly numberd 2007-1487-9853

Leo PA5LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread w6jd
But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a
true beliver in sequence numbers!

One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s.

Doug, W6JD

-- Original message -- 
From: Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 G4ILO wrote: 
 
  not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get 
  the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer 
  room and put it in the in tray, then wait a couple of hours until 
  they had time to run it. 
 
 And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you 
 find 
 out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe 
 to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody 
 down 
 there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at 
 all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... 
 
 Bill W5WVO 
 
  
  - 
  Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 
  G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com 
  Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread Toby Deinhardt

But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a
true beliver in sequence numbers!

One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s.


Ah, the good old days, back when we measured program size in inches, 
i.e. the program is 18 inches tall...


vy 73 de toby
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[Elecraft] Attn: Jim Cundiff - KB3GFC

2008-03-05 Thread Ken Kopp

Jim, have sent you info from two different ISP's.
Do you have a phone number where I can call you?
Or, another e-mail address?  ARRL?

I have trouble with Comcast blocking my mailings.

Rose Kopp - N7HKW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread w6jd
And after a series of 360s, 370s and B5000s I graduated to HP minis
and , gaak!, paper tape. Discovered the value of transparent Scotch
tape.

Doug, W6JD

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a 
 true beliver in sequence numbers! 
 
 One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s. 
 
 Doug, W6JD 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Bill W5WVO 
 
  G4ILO wrote: 
  
   not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get 
   the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer 
   room and put it in the in tray, then wait a couple of hours until 
   they had time to run it. 
  
  And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you 
  find 
  out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole 
  mainframe 
  to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody 
  down 
  there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at 
  all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... 
  
  Bill W5WVO 
  
   
   - 
   Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 
   G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com 
   Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status page...

2008-03-05 Thread David Wilburn
I dropped a quick note to Eric yesterday, just asking when they 
thought they would have a chance to get an update out.  He made it 
sound like it was going to be happening quite soon.



Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982


Dave G. wrote:
Would there be any possibility of updating the Shipping Status page about 
every two weeks??

The last update was Feb 15th...

Tnx...
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[Elecraft] K3; # 536 is alive and well

2008-03-05 Thread Hans H Vollmer

After an enjoyable building  K3 #536 is alive and well.

Thanks to Elecraft for that lovely little machine.

Now I have to find the time to learn all the possibilities.

73 de Hans, DF5SR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Bayern
 Discovered the value of transparent Scotch
  tape.

ah yes.  The day we switch to optical readers was a day of
celebration! The old mechanical readers were slow and noisy.

Mark  AD5SS
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status page...

2008-03-05 Thread David Wilburn

It was updated today.


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982


David Wilburn wrote:
I dropped a quick note to Eric yesterday, just asking when they thought 
they would have a chance to get an update out.  He made it sound like it 
was going to be happening quite soon.



Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982


Dave G. wrote:
Would there be any possibility of updating the Shipping Status page 
about every two weeks??

The last update was Feb 15th...

Tnx...
--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 12M odd behavoir, END message -- swl autotune?

2008-03-05 Thread Oliver Johns

Don,

This brings up something I've wondered about.  If the K3 will not  
transmit out of the ham bands, how do you get the autotuner to align  
the impedance match for optimal out-of-band swl?  It has to be that  
it will output slightly when tune is pressed, just enough for the  
autotuner to read the forward and reversed power and make its  
decisions.  Not so?  Is that what it does?


73,
Oliver Johns
W6ODJ


On 4 Mar 2008, at 2:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Bill,

The END message indicates that you have reached the END of the band.
The K2 is limited so it cannot be used to transmit in the CB band  
(clearly not legal), so you will encounter just what you saw if you  
try it.


As a sidenote, questions are often asked about the END message with  
the KX1 - because of the general coverage aspects of the KX1, it is  
easy to tune out of the ham band, so users encounter that message  
frequently - often when they have listened to WWV at 10 MHz and  
then try to transmit.


73,
Don W3FPR

Bill Coleman N2BC wrote:

Bear with me, this is strange  K2 / 06254  built last Fall

A few days ago I fixed a problem on my K2 (low output on  
15/12/10). Yesterday I finished a complete alignment and today  
reinstalled the KPA100.


So...  its lashed to a dummy load and I'm stepping through the  
bands to make sure the KPA100 is happy. I get to 12M and the VFO  
happens to be set to 25000.00, I tap the key.  No output and I get  
an END message on the display.


Move the VFO to inside the band, no more END message but still  
no output. Change the power level - now there is normal output!


In fact, if I recreate the setup (freq to 25000.00 or higher, tap  
the key, get END), then change to any other band - there is no  
output until I change the power setting.


I couldn't find this mentioned in any of the archives.  Is the  
firmware getting confused or do I have a unique gremlin?  The only  
reference to the END msg I can find in the book is CAL PLL.


It's working 100% otherwise.  Would appreciate it if somebody else  
would give this a try!


THX  73,  Bill  N2BC





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[Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Lee Buller

Ladies and Gents

I have been playing with the AFX mode here and it is very good with head 
phones.  I really like the spatial context.  I am now trying a pair of old 
computer speakers...must be more than 10 years old from Creative Labs.  Seem to 
sound OK, but I am curious as to what you are using for speaker(s) with the K3? 

I am not going to plunk down change for a large speaker system, but I would 
like to know what others are using if anything at all.

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[Elecraft] K2 power

2008-03-05 Thread Earl
I am building a KPA100 and it is configured as
-12V supply attached
-12 v internal line connected to K2 at P3
-PA turned on in menu

In attempting the  power calibration the K2 shows i watt when set for 5 watts. 
Adj R26 has no effect. Checking back with the RF probe, I find that K2 shows 
11-12 vRF and with the RF cable connected to KPA100 it shows 11-12 VRF at the 
input of K1.  However at TP2 there is no RF.
 I took the board off the heat sink and I find that the RF goes to the n.o. 
terminal rather than to the nc terminal.  So the signal is lost in Ki

Has anyone had this experience  with the KPA100 or can anyone give me any ideas 
how to correct this?
 Thanks, Earl
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[Elecraft] OT - Attn: Comcast and AOL subscribers

2008-03-05 Thread Ken Kopp

I apologize for the bandwidth, but I don't know how else to
bring this to your attention.

To the best of my knowledge, -all- inquiries about our
Elecraft covers have been answered ... some multiple times 
and from three different ISP's / addresses.  If you are a 
Comcast or AOL subscriber and have requested information 
about Elecraft covers and have -not- received my replies I'll 
need a different address (non-Comcast / AOL) to respond to.  
I suspect our's isn't the only e-mail you're missing., BTW.


If you Google Comcast e-mail you will find a long list of 
complaints and references to loss of mail and non-delivery 
issues relating to Comcast.


Ken and I have spent hours addressing this problem, working
with friends who have Comcast and/or AOL accounts and have
gotten nowhere.  We've even switched ISP's, e-mail names and
worked with a for-hire consultant in an effort to find a solution to 
this problem but it seems as if there simply is none.  It turns out 
the problem isn't ours.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Tom Hammond

Lee:

Were it me, I'd opt to buy a couple of the UN-amplified Motorola Mobile
speakers off E-Bay. They're a great match for the K3.

Such as:

This one has a REALLY GREAT pic of what you're looking for...
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MOTOROLA-HSN4021B-EXTERNAL-SPEAKER-FOR-MARATRAC_W0QQitemZ170198971909QQihZ007QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Motorola-Used-Speakers-models-HSN4000A-HSN4018B_W0QQitemZ260216889650QQihZ016QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Motorola-Used-Speakers-HSN4021A-HSN4023A-TSN6016B_W0QQitemZ260216891717QQihZ016QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Each-Motorola-HSN9326-Mobile-Speaker-Used-Guaranteed_W0QQitemZ280205865087QQihZ018QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-HSN4018B-EXTERNAL-SPEAKER_W0QQitemZ220208493224QQihZ012QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-8-Ohm-Speaker_W0QQitemZ220208850569QQihZ012QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Speaker-HSN4018A_W0QQitemZ200204306404QQihZ010QQcategoryZ20383QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Two-Way-Radio-Speaker_W0QQitemZ290212025233QQihZ019QQcategoryZ48695QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Spectra-Maxtrac-GM300-CDM1250-CM300-Speaker_W0QQitemZ220209404289QQihZ012QQcategoryZ66975QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm a bit leery of trying to use PC speakers because most of those amps
are poorly shielded (if at all), and you don't want RF getting back into
the audio line.

73,

Tom   N0SS


At 20:08 03/05/2008, you wrote:


Ladies and Gents

I have been playing with the AFX mode here and it is very good with 
head phones.  I really like the spatial context.  I am now trying a 
pair of old computer speakers...must be more than 10 years old from 
Creative Labs.  Seem to sound OK, but I am curious as to what you 
are using for speaker(s) with the K3?


I am not going to plunk down change for a large speaker system, but 
I would like to know what others are using if anything at all.


Lee - K0WA



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
A man after my own heart.  I did this:  2x Micor / Syntor generation
5 8-ohm speakers in the plastic clamshell enclosures work great for
this.  I've avoided the metal enclosures because of mechanical
resonances

These speakers are pretty efficient, and have good freq response.

73,
matt, W6NIA

On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:38:21 -0600, you wrote:

Lee:

Were it me, I'd opt to buy a couple of the UN-amplified Motorola Mobile
speakers off E-Bay. They're a great match for the K3.

Such as:

This one has a REALLY GREAT pic of what you're looking for...
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MOTOROLA-HSN4021B-EXTERNAL-SPEAKER-FOR-MARATRAC_W0QQitemZ170198971909QQihZ007QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Motorola-Used-Speakers-models-HSN4000A-HSN4018B_W0QQitemZ260216889650QQihZ016QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Motorola-Used-Speakers-HSN4021A-HSN4023A-TSN6016B_W0QQitemZ260216891717QQihZ016QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Each-Motorola-HSN9326-Mobile-Speaker-Used-Guaranteed_W0QQitemZ280205865087QQihZ018QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-HSN4018B-EXTERNAL-SPEAKER_W0QQitemZ220208493224QQihZ012QQcategoryZ53108QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-8-Ohm-Speaker_W0QQitemZ220208850569QQihZ012QQcategoryZ66977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Speaker-HSN4018A_W0QQitemZ200204306404QQihZ010QQcategoryZ20383QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Two-Way-Radio-Speaker_W0QQitemZ290212025233QQihZ019QQcategoryZ48695QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Spectra-Maxtrac-GM300-CDM1250-CM300-Speaker_W0QQitemZ220209404289QQihZ012QQcategoryZ66975QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm a bit leery of trying to use PC speakers because most of those amps
are poorly shielded (if at all), and you don't want RF getting back into
the audio line.

73,

Tom   N0SS


At 20:08 03/05/2008, you wrote:

Ladies and Gents

I have been playing with the AFX mode here and it is very good with 
head phones.  I really like the spatial context.  I am now trying a 
pair of old computer speakers...must be more than 10 years old from 
Creative Labs.  Seem to sound OK, but I am curious as to what you 
are using for speaker(s) with the K3?

I am not going to plunk down change for a large speaker system, but 
I would like to know what others are using if anything at all.

Lee - K0WA



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supply.  If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense 
and use it.  If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Dave Martin
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lee:

  Were it me, I'd opt to buy a couple of the UN-amplified Motorola Mobile
  speakers off E-Bay. They're a great match for the K3.

That's what I've always used.  Their response is more or less shaped
for voice communications and will get rid of the heavy bassy stuff
that the hi-fi boys transmit, and also roll off the annoying high
frequency noise.  This shouldn't be such a problem with the K3's audio
equalizer, but I have a matched pair of Motorola speakers that I plan
to wire up for my K3.  I also have a small sealed full range speaker
that I switch in when I listen to the broadcast stations.  It gives a
sound a lot like the old days with the six by nine speaker on the rear
deck of your favorite date-mobile.

Dave  W5DHM
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[Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Ken Kopp

Lee, I agree with Tom's suggestion, or 

I use two CB speakers from the local truck stop's CB
department ... Barjan Model 320-701.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lee,

Yes, TRX is nice to listen to.

I cannot use headphones easily with my hearing aids, so I purchased a 
set of reasonable quality computer speakers at Staples (priced at about 
$25).  I use them placed so they fire in the direction of my ears from 
close range.  The RX EQ can be used to tailor the response to more like 
communications quality if desired, but I just leave it wide open most of 
the time.


I also have a full stereo system here in the shack with an 8 channel 
Behringer mixer to play music sourced by either the computer, FM tuner 
and tape player, and I also have a position that I can mix in the K3 
audio too, so I can enjoy full fidelity stereo from the K3 should I want 
to do some SWLing (but I usually don't do that).  The connections 
between the K3 EXT SPKR output and the computer speakers or the mixer is 
handled by a small homebrew switching box, but it works for me. 

If you want comunications quality, use communications type speakers, but 
if you want wide range audio, use something that approaches a good 
stereo system on the K3 - either of those choices and anything in 
between  can be easily implemented since the K3 has adequate audio power 
reserve to handle all but the low efficiency High Fidelity type speakers.


73,
Don W3FPR

TRX iws definitely nice to hear.

73,
Don W3FPR

Lee Buller wrote:

Ladies and Gents

I have been playing with the AFX mode here and it is very good with head phones.  I really like the spatial context.  I am now trying a pair of old computer speakers...must be more than 10 years old from Creative Labs.  Seem to sound OK, but I am curious as to what you are using for speaker(s) with the K3? 


I am not going to plunk down change for a large speaker system, but I would 
like to know what others are using if anything at all.

Lee - K0WA



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] Elecraft at Puyallup Sat. Mar 8th!

2008-03-05 Thread Greg
I just want to let everyone know that there will be an Elecraft booth at the
Puyallup, WA hamfest this weekend, Saturday, March 8.  We will be in both
1Y11.

This will be a K3 Demo booth only and will be happy to help with all your
questions.  Your hosts will be Roger - WA7BOC; Greg - AB7R; Bruce N7RR
(think QST review) and a possible special guest star, Lyle - KK7P.  We will
have a couple K3s on display.

Spread the word - we hope to see a great turnout!


73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA



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[Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Penkas
A pair of Palstar SP-30 communications speakers.
Mike WA8EBM 
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-03-05 Thread william jenkins

I was inventorying the parts for the RF board and have 2 questions that I’m 
sure you guys can clear up for me. First, exactly what value is C22? And the 
second one is this; Q6 is supposed to be part number 2SC2166. I have C5739. 
Before I start soldering I’d like know for sure if this is an acceptable 
alternate part. Thanks in advance. 73.
   Billy
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Stereo Speakers - What are you using?

2008-03-05 Thread Joe Stofko
There are a number of good choices, including the 
surplus Motorola communications speakers already 
mentioned. 
I have several sets of Minimus 7 bookshelf systems 
that were very popular from Radio Shack. I use them on
most of my stuff, including an Icom 220 rig, Kenwood 940, etc.
They sound great with the K3.  I have also tried a set of 
Behringer 1-C Monitor speakers that play well with
the K3.

73,

Joe - W1AIU

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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Billy,

The RF board C22 can be a 2.7pf, 3.0pf or 3.3pf capacitor, any of these 
values will work FB.
Yes, the 2SC5739 is a substitute for the 2SC2166 - I believe that is 
mentioned in the errata sheet.


73,
Don W3FPR

william jenkins wrote:

I was inventorying the parts for the RF board and have 2 questions that I’m 
sure you guys can clear up for me. First, exactly what value is C22? And the 
second one is this; Q6 is supposed to be part number 2SC2166. I have C5739. 
Before I start soldering I’d like know for sure if this is an acceptable 
alternate part. Thanks in advance. 73.
   BillyKC9IDK_

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 power

2008-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Earl,

The RF should come out of K1 NC contact when the power is set to less 
than 11 watts.  Since you report that there is RF at K1 NO contact, 
check to see if the K1 coil is activated - the voltage at U2 pin 13 
should be zero when K1 is activated, but 12 volts when not activated.
If U2 pin 13 is at zero volts at both low and high power levels, look 
for a solder splash that is grounding the circuit.  Also check U1 pin 21 
- it should be zero volts at low power and near 5 volts at high power - 
if that condition is true, turn power off and check the resistance to 
ground from U2 pin 13.  If you find that it is near zero ohms, continue 
to look for the solder splash or bridge.
If any of your solder connections look like they have a pile of solder 
on them, too much solder was applied and can create similar problems.


73,
Don W3FPR

Earl wrote:

I am building a KPA100 and it is configured as
-12V supply attached
-12 v internal line connected to K2 at P3
-PA turned on in menu

In attempting the  power calibration the K2 shows i watt when set for 5 watts. 
Adj R26 has no effect. Checking back with the RF probe, I find that K2 shows 
11-12 vRF and with the RF cable connected to KPA100 it shows 11-12 VRF at the 
input of K1.  However at TP2 there is no RF.
 I took the board off the heat sink and I find that the RF goes to the n.o. 
terminal rather than to the nc terminal.  So the signal is lost in Ki

Has anyone had this experience  with the KPA100 or can anyone give me any ideas 
how to correct this?
 Thanks, Earl
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[Elecraft] Re: voltage

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
I found this annoying, too, so I did something about it - the idea
is not original to me. I learned about it from J-F VA2VYZ.

I changed R10 to be a trimpot: a Bourns 3296W-254 25-turn trimmer. See 
a photo at 

http://www.dimebank.com/cak/k6dbg/photos/voltmeter_pot.jpg

I adjusted mine so the display voltmeter matches the measured
voltage past the diode.

73 de chris K6DBG
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[Elecraft] Attn: J. Andy Tiura

2008-03-05 Thread Ken Kopp

Andy,

I need a phone number or e-mail address other 
than Comcast.net to contact you, please.


Rose Kopp - N7HKW
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or
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net -- Update needed for the K3 Wiki

2008-03-05 Thread KM5Q

I looked at the K3 Wiki at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page

Under the K3 NEWS and the USER NETS headers, the info about the new  
net is now outdated.


I don't see any instructions on how to sign on so that I can edit  
this. How do I do it?


OR:
If someone else wants to do it, please do! Feel free to confirm it  
with me and/or Roger WA7BOC [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Also, note that we have changed the name of the net to Elecraft SSB  
Net to be consistent with Elecraft CW Net.


Thanks
Windy KM5Q
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