[Elecraft] [KXPA100] minimum drive?

2013-12-26 Thread eric norris
What is the lowest drive for the KXPA100 (not to produce 100W, but for lower 
output), and is it possible to get the amp to run, when connected to a KX3, 
with a low output power of, say, 10 watts?  I'm wondering about a situation 
where you'd like to have the KX3 putting out a watt or less to keep its 
temperature more stable and the drift down, and still have the KXPA100 in-line 
and producing perhaps 10-20 watts?  Is that possible?

Thanks and 73,

Eric WD6DBM 
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Re: [Elecraft] Weird K2 behavior

2013-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tom,

Isolate the problem.
What does the K2 display indicate?  If that is correct and you can tune 
the K2 with the VFO knob, then you have a problem with the N3FJP program 
and should ask or support for that program.


OTOH, if you cannot tune with the K2, open it up and do the VFO Range 
Tests for all band edges and we can likely help.  As one wild guess - do 
you have the secondary menu parameter for D19 set properly?  It should 
be y if the K60XV is installed, but must be n without the K60XV.  If 
you have installed the rework eliminators, you need to set it as though 
the K60XV were installed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2013 12:05 AM, Tom Field wrote:

I have a K2 7432 with the K100, KSB, KAF2 options, and have been using the
serial port through a Keyspan adaptor with N3fjp logging software. It
correctly reads the radio frequency on all bands except 40 meters where
regardless of the radio frequency it only reads 7198 This is new behavior
as well.
Below is the data from the program: Any one have any other Ideas?

Tom F.
KI6NRD


Rig Name = Elecraft
Read Frequency Command = FA;
Read Mode Command = MD;
Convert To Hex = False
Com Port Name = COM4
Baud Rate = 4800
Parity = None
Stop Bits = 2
Data Bits = 8
Power Option = None
Numeric Frequency = 7.198
String Frequency = 7.19800
Mode = SSB
Polling Rig = True
Polling Rate = 2000
Return Mode = True
Return Frequency = False
Mode From Frequency = False
Version = Rig Interface Setup 1.2(Ctrl R)
Buffer = MD1;
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Bill W4ZV
Jim Brown-10 wrote
 The 7600 is also an RF trash generator -- clicks and 
 phase noise abound.

Not as bad as many others...Flex Radios the worst by far:

Model QST Rx @20 kHz Tx @20 kHz Diff Tx Wide
(-dBc) (-dBc) (dB) (-dBc)
K3 Jan 09 112 (104) 119 -7 128@100kHz, 120@360kHz
TS-599AT Aug 11 115 (93) 108 7 112@100kHz
IC-7600 Nov 09 105 (100) 102 3 111@100kHz
IC-7700 Oct 08 109 (105) 108 1 110@100kHz
TS-590S May 11 120 (104) 106 14 110@100kHz
KX3
Dec 12 120 (105) 97 23 107@100kHz
IC-9100 Apr 12 101 101 0 105@100kHz
FTdx5000 Dec 10 109 (104) 104 5 103@100kHz
FT-950 Mar 08 86 (105) 100 -14 102@100kHz
FTdx9000 Jul 10 114 101 13 100@100kHz
FT-450D Nov 11 98 85 13 96@100kHz
IC-7200 Jun 09 103 95 8 94@100kHz
Flex-1500 Dec 11 107 (88) 101 6 81@300kHz
Flex-5000A Jul 08 99 (96) 91 8 77@350kHz 

http://www.sm5bsz.com/dynrange/dubus313.pdf

73,  Bill  W4ZV




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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread N2TK, Tony
Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in a
headset such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just an
ON-OFF switch like the headsets have.

And thinking of the CM-500. Has anyone found a set of material covers that
fit their ear covers? I would think they would be more comfortable than the
plastic against your head. And they would look better than the pieces of
paper towels I presently use when wearing the headphones for extended
periods. :-)

73,
N2TK, Tony

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:58 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

I use the Bose QC-15 as about all I do is CW and the audio on these is
wonderful. The noise cancelling though is almost 100% perfect; my old Alpha
with its blower is 18 from my head and with the QC-15 on I 

can't but just barely tell the amp is on or off. 

I was thinking about getting a headset with a mic  though Bose does make
the A20 for pilots, at $1100 for what is essentially the QC-15 with a boom
mic, I'll pass. They do make a A100T snap on mic for the
QC15 but they are $250 for just the mic. I was referred by quite a few
people here to check out the Yamaha CM500 for a fine mic, quick match to the
K3 and comfortable headsets  at $59. 

I'm so happy with the Bose QC15 that I'm going to keep using these and am
going to need to figure out another way to get a mic into the
K3 in a way that will be convenient for contesting should I ever decide to
do a phone contest. I have an Electrovoice RE-10 which would probably be
nice  needs no power  maybe I can make a clamp-on 

boom that I can remove from the desk once the contest is over. I also 

have several condenser mics but they are for recording and would be excess
and just problematic for ham use.

Anyone have any suggestion of a removable boom mic other than the A100T that
will attach to the QC-15 and make it simple to use and then remove when the
contest is over? I don't want to use velcro.

Thanks  73,

Gary
KA1J



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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
I've never tried noise cancelling headphones, so my one question is, does 
anyone detect ANY effect to the desired audio?  In other words, any 
Noise-Blanker  effects or coloration of the audio?
I would suppose that, since they're designed for music, the noise cancelling 
function is transparent, right?


On the very few flights I've taken recently, I successfully used my old Sony 
MDR-7506's.  Maybe I don't know what I'm missing by NOT using a noise 
cancelling set.


73, Charlie k3ICH


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From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones



True noise cancelling headphones will cut noise far, far beyond anything
acoustic isolation from ear pads can accomplish.

I have a pair of Audio-Technia QuierPoint ATH-ANC1. They are on ear 
types

so I didn't recommend them to the person asking for ones that cover the
ears. They are very comfortable for me.

When I fly, as the roar and whine of the big jet engines invades the 
cabin,

I just switch them on and all the racket becomes a quite background purr.

I often wear them for the entire 11 hours from the west coast of the USA 
to

Europe, even if I'm not listening to any programs.

The active circuitry in true noise-cancelling phones inverts the sound
arriving and so actually cancels it out.

The circuit takes a few seconds to adapt so when the attendant brings my
drink she has no trouble waking me.

73 Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Randy Lake
The Bose QC15's are very nice for sure. The price, as with all Bose
products, is way too high. I use them for CW/ digital contests and the
CM-500's for phone contests. I like the CM-500's very much. They are very
comfortable but do not have the isolation that one would want in a multi
environment.
Hope everyone had a very special Christmas day!
73,
 Randy N1KWF


On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com wrote:

 I've never tried noise cancelling headphones, so my one question is, does
 anyone detect ANY effect to the desired audio?  In other words, any
 Noise-Blanker  effects or coloration of the audio?
 I would suppose that, since they're designed for music, the noise
 cancelling function is transparent, right?

 On the very few flights I've taken recently, I successfully used my old
 Sony MDR-7506's.  Maybe I don't know what I'm missing by NOT using a noise
 cancelling set.

 73, Charlie k3ICH


 - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones


  True noise cancelling headphones will cut noise far, far beyond anything
 acoustic isolation from ear pads can accomplish.

 I have a pair of Audio-Technia QuierPoint ATH-ANC1. They are on ear
 types
 so I didn't recommend them to the person asking for ones that cover the
 ears. They are very comfortable for me.

 When I fly, as the roar and whine of the big jet engines invades the
 cabin,
 I just switch them on and all the racket becomes a quite background purr.

 I often wear them for the entire 11 hours from the west coast of the USA
 to
 Europe, even if I'm not listening to any programs.

 The active circuitry in true noise-cancelling phones inverts the sound
 arriving and so actually cancels it out.

 The circuit takes a few seconds to adapt so when the attendant brings my
 drink she has no trouble waking me.

 73 Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Bill Cobb
I use custom ear molds when on a long distance motorcycle rides. They do 
provide great isolation and are comfortable for long periods. I've been using 
the same set for 7 years with no issues. In addition to audiologists, vendors 
are usually at major motorcycle shows and sometimes at m'cycle shop (espec BMW) 
open houses. 

I still use the Yam headset with my new KX3 as I don't have a boom mic. The Yam 
works well for long periods too. 

Bill k4yjj 

 The greatest isolation is achieved with custom ear molds, which you buy from 
 an audiologist who fits them to your ear canal.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Mark

I also really like the bose qc15 headphones and had been considering one of the 
add on 
microphones that are available, like 

Expensive one
http://uflymike.com

Or
http://www.headsetbuddy.com/clearmic-noise-canceling-microphone-for-bose-qc15-headphones/

Or more generic 
http://www.modmic.com

Or DIY
http://www.freewebs.com/k1dg/boseheadphonemod.htm

The qc15 comes with a mic as well but not a boom style, just on the cord like 
for iPhones.
The qc15 was more comfortable for me in a 32 hour single op rtty contest than 
my other 
choices.  The noise canceling does not have the hiss or the distortion of rtty 
side tone and
noise like the cheaper noise canceling 'phones do.  

I have decided for my limited ssb operation I think my cm500 or heil proset 
will do just fine.  
(Well at least for now)

Mark. N2QT

On Dec 26, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:

I use the Bose QC-15 as about all I do is CW and the audio on these 
 is wonderful. The noise cancelling though is almost 100% perfect; my 
 old Alpha with its blower is 18 from my head and with the QC-15 on I 
 
 can't but just barely tell the amp is on or off. 
 
 I was thinking about getting a headset with a mic  though Bose does 
 make the A20 for pilots, at $1100 for what is essentially the QC-15 
 with a boom mic, I'll pass. They do make a A100T snap on mic for the 
 QC15 but they are $250 for just the mic. I was referred by quite a 
 few people here to check out the Yamaha CM500 for a fine mic, quick 
 match to the K3 and comfortable headsets  at $59. 
 
 I'm so happy with the Bose QC15 that I'm going to keep using these 
 and am going to need to figure out another way to get a mic into the 
 K3 in a way that will be convenient for contesting should I ever 
 decide to do a phone contest. I have an Electrovoice RE-10 which 
 would probably be nice  needs no power  maybe I can make a clamp-on 
 
 boom that I can remove from the desk once the contest is over. I also 
 
 have several condenser mics but they are for recording and would be 
 excess and just problematic for ham use.
 
 Anyone have any suggestion of a removable boom mic other than the 
 A100T that will attach to the QC-15 and make it simple to use and 
 then remove when the contest is over? I don't want to use velcro.
 
 Thanks  73,
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Tony,

I'm using the Heill covers that others use for the headset pro on my CM500
98% fit.

73
Arie PA3A


N2TK, Tony schreef op 26-12-2013 14:20:

Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in a
headset such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just an
ON-OFF switch like the headsets have.

And thinking of the CM-500. Has anyone found a set of material covers that
fit their ear covers? I would think they would be more comfortable than the
plastic against your head. And they would look better than the pieces of
paper towels I presently use when wearing the headphones for extended
periods. :-)

73,
N2TK, Tony



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Re: [Elecraft] Wanted P3

2013-12-26 Thread bozidar
Still looking for P3
Regards
Bozidar



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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Brian Hunt
The noise pickup must be very close to the ear piece to allow proper and 
constant phase for effective canceling. Having a separate box would mean the 
phase would change if you moved your head so would't work. 

I haven't noticed any noise blanker effect. There are surely minor errors in 
the canceling process but Bose seems the have it pretty well worked out. iPod 
music is great through them even at 4 ft. :-)

Brian , K0DTJ

 On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:20, N2TK, Tony tony@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in a
 headset such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just an
 ON-OFF switch like the headsets have.
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
These have caught my eye at my local Costco recently:

http://www.costco.com/Sony-MDR-10RDC-Premium-Noise-Canceling-Headphones.product.100083695.html

but I keep reminding myself that I have too many headsets already :)

The reviews seem decent. They probably don't have the same
construction quality as your MDR-V6's (guessing), but may be worth
checking out if you're a member, or know someone who is...

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Joel Black w4...@charter.net wrote:
 I am looking for a pair of noise cancelling headphones.

 I have a pair of Sony MDR-V6's that I love, but they do not have noise
 cancelling capability and my wife's embroidery machine is severely limiting
 my radio operations.

 I have already looked at the Yamaha CM500's because they come so highly
 recommended on this group. If they're noise cancelling, I cannot find that
 information about them.

 I want something that will last. The MDR-V6's have lasted at least 10 years
 if not longer. I've only had to replace the earpads.

 I want something that *covers* my ear *not* something that sits *on* my ear.
 Those that sit *on* my ears are uncomfortable after a very short while.

 Merry Christmas and 73,

 Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The audio seems just fine on typical aircraft program material with no
obvious distortion to my tin ears. The fact that I can turn the program
volume down to normal levels and hear just fine or end the constant, high dB
assault on my ears when I'm not listening at all is the overriding factor to
me. 

Fortunately I have a very quiet shack so I've never used them there. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:30 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

I've never tried noise cancelling headphones, so my one question is, does
anyone detect ANY effect to the desired audio?  In other words, any
Noise-Blanker  effects or coloration of the audio?
I would suppose that, since they're designed for music, the noise cancelling
function is transparent, right?

On the very few flights I've taken recently, I successfully used my old Sony
MDR-7506's.  Maybe I don't know what I'm missing by NOT using a noise
cancelling set.

73, Charlie k3ICH

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[Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?

2013-12-26 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Gang:

As the subject says, have you ever had a WOW moment using QRP on the bands??

I just did as I answered a very weak response to my CQ on 21.060 at 1613Z.

G3YPZ called and I couldn't really couldn't copy much until I got him zero beat 
and turned on the APF in my KX3.

Finally got his call and then copied just about 100% of his transmissions from 
then on.

Turns out that John was running a K3  at 100mw!!  Of course the fact that he 
had a 2 element quad certainly helped but I can't recall ever working a DX 
station when he was running so little power.

Solar Flux today is only at 123 so condx not great but 15m can be magical at 
times.

This QRP stuff is amazing...we can be thankful to Wayne and Eric for such 
superb equipment that allow us to work farther with less these days.

I harken back to my beginning days as a Novice with a homebrew 6V6 and S77 
Hallicrafters receiver...amazing that I made any QSOs back then in 1962!!

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
I just read the second page of reviews, and there are a couple of
complaints about picking up FM broadcast radio stations. That may be a
bad sign! I have the old Heil ProSet QuietPhone (with the NC lump in
the cord), which was horribly susceptible to RFI. Something to look
out for on any model you choose. At least with the Costco one, you can
return it to the store if it doesn't work out...

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:17 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:
 These have caught my eye at my local Costco recently:

 http://www.costco.com/Sony-MDR-10RDC-Premium-Noise-Canceling-Headphones.product.100083695.html

 but I keep reminding myself that I have too many headsets already :)

 The reviews seem decent. They probably don't have the same
 construction quality as your MDR-V6's (guessing), but may be worth
 checking out if you're a member, or know someone who is...

 73,

 ~iain / N6ML



 On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Joel Black w4...@charter.net wrote:
 I am looking for a pair of noise cancelling headphones.

 I have a pair of Sony MDR-V6's that I love, but they do not have noise
 cancelling capability and my wife's embroidery machine is severely limiting
 my radio operations.

 I have already looked at the Yamaha CM500's because they come so highly
 recommended on this group. If they're noise cancelling, I cannot find that
 information about them.

 I want something that will last. The MDR-V6's have lasted at least 10 years
 if not longer. I've only had to replace the earpads.

 I want something that *covers* my ear *not* something that sits *on* my ear.
 Those that sit *on* my ears are uncomfortable after a very short while.

 Merry Christmas and 73,

 Joel - W4JBB
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[Elecraft] Out of band limits

2013-12-26 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
IS there a way to shut off the out of band transmit limits in the K3?  I'm
down in the Caribbean trying to fine tune my antennas and it's impossible to
do with the limiter in place. 

 

[Nb. Yeah I'm sure some smart guy on frequency will say fly home and get my
autek bridge.]

 

 

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4/K9HZ

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch

Staunton, Illinois

email:   mailto:b...@wjschmidt.com b...@wjschmidt.com

 

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[Elecraft] [K2] Safely running 100% key-down modes

2013-12-26 Thread K1FFX
I starting to use my K2/100 in two 100% key-down modes, JT-65 and PSK-31. 
What
should I be keeping in mind in protecting the output stage for the K2 and
for the KPA100?

For JT-65, since it is a QRP mode, I'm running at about 5 watts, and
transmissions are 
limited to about 45 seconds.  So, I'm hoping that K2's output transistors
will not be stressed
in this mode.

But, how about PSK-31?  I'd like to run about 20 watts and each transmission
could easily
be 3 or so minutes.  I don't know at what output power the base K2 runs when
the KPA100
kicks in (i.e., at above 10 watts).  I assume that normally the KPA100 will
be loafing at 20 
watts, but I'm not sure the impact of 100% key down on its output stage.

I'd appreciate any guidance in keeping the K2/100 safe in these modes.

Thanks -

Bruce K1FFX




-
Bruce Rosen
K1FFX
K2/100 6982 KSB2 KAT100-1

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Re: [Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?

2013-12-26 Thread lmarion

15 meters is a very overlooked band in my opinion.
Its open way more than 10 meters. Its quiet, lots of room.
Easy 23 foot dipole antenna and a KX3  and you are working the world,
CW or SSB. And if you can get 48 feet of wire loop up somewhere,
you will be astonished.  I can always find DX CW on 15 mtrs.

73  Leroy AB7CE

-Original Message- 
From: Joe W2KJ

Subject: [Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?


Solar Flux today is only at 123 so condx not great but 15m can be magical at 
times.



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Re: [Elecraft] [KXPA100] minimum drive?

2013-12-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
When you turn PA.MODE ON, we use the KX3 alone for power levels up to 10 or
12 watts, and then enable amplification above 10 watts. The KX3's power knob
ranges from 0 to around 100 watts with PA MODE ON.

However you can turn KX3 PA MODE OFF and set the KX3 output power for the
desired KXPA100 output.   You can do this with any QRP transceiver.

You may find the drive adjustment a little touchy for very low amplified
output levels.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [KXPA100] minimum drive?

What is the lowest drive for the KXPA100 (not to produce 100W, but for lower
output), and is it possible to get the amp to run, when connected to a KX3,
with a low output power of, say, 10 watts?  I'm wondering about a situation
where you'd like to have the KX3 putting out a watt or less to keep its
temperature more stable and the drift down, and still have the KXPA100
in-line and producing perhaps 10-20 watts?  Is that possible?

Thanks and 73,

Eric WD6DBM 
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[Elecraft] K3 and Micrometer II help

2013-12-26 Thread Tom
Hi,  
I just hooked up my Microkeyer 2 installed all software and the software is 
communicating with the radio.  However if I talk into my Mike there is no 
transmit occurring via Vox or PTT on the radio. 
Pi am using a Heil preset as received from Elecraft. 
I have the k3 front mic cable. 
I have the wire marked line in on the cable to the line in on the radio. Same 
for line out. 
I have set jumpers to non electret. 
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.? 
Thanks


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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/25/2013 11:57 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

I have an Electrovoice RE-10 which
would probably be nice  needs no power


Being a retired audio pro who has done a lot of recording, I have a lot 
of pro mics, including several RE16s.  Before I discovered the CM500 
(thanks to W6XU, another audio pro), I used an RE16 in my ham station on 
a boom stand. It worked quite well.


The hookup of a pro dynamic mic to ham gear is very simple. Pro mics are 
wired balanced via shielded twist pair cable to a three-pin connector 
called an XL.  Pin 1 is the shield, Pin 2 is high, Pin 3 is return.  
To connect a dynamic mic like the RE10, wire Pin 2 to mic in on the rig, 
wire Pin 3 to mic return on the rig, and connect Pin 1 to the chassis. I 
made up some adapters for the various rigs that I used that mic with.


Nearly all ham mics have a peaked response in the range of 3 kHz to 
compensate for the rolloff of SSB filters, both on RX and TX. This was, 
I believe, first developed by Shure about 40 years ago, and you can see 
it in the response of their communications mics. Pro mics don't have 
this peak (or if they do, it's in the range of 8-10 kHz), so TXEQ must 
be adjusted to provide that peak.  I used the same low frequency rolloff 
for the RE10 that I use now for the CM500 -- the three lowest frequency 
bands max cut, the fourth cut by about half, tweaked by ear based on the 
reports of a known good listener.  For the high end, I boosted the top 
band by about 10 dB, the next highest band by a few dB, again tweaked on 
the basis of reports from a good listener.


With rigs other than a K3 that don't have TXEQ, I added a capacitor in 
series with the mic wiring to the rig input and a resistor between the 
rig mic input and mic signal return. The resistor was about 470 ohms, 
and the capacitor value was chosen so that the network produced a strong 
rolloff below 2 kHz -- in other words, a sloped response that peaked 
around 3 kHz.  I got very good audio reports from this simple setup with 
a TS850, an Omni V, an FT1000MP, and a K2.


I modified the K2 to add a low frequency rolloff around 400 Hz also to 
increase the mic gain by about 6 dB.  I did this simply by changing the 
values of a few resistors and capacitors early in the audio signal 
chain. The purpose of the mod was simple -- with most ham mics, the K2 
is a bit low on gain, so I wanted to hit the limiter harder. I also 
wanted to minimize the wasted LF energy, and also prevent that LF energy 
from activating the limiter.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Micrometer II help

2013-12-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



Pi am using a Heil preset as received from Elecraft. I have the k3
front mic cable. I have the wire marked line in on the cable to the
line in on the radio. Same for line out. I have set jumpers to non
electret. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.?


Elecraft ProSet has an ELECTRET mic you need to set the jumpers in
MKII for electret in order to supply the necessary power to the mic
element and then perform the audio level set-up as documented in the
MKII Users Manual.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/26/2013 12:37 PM, Tom wrote:

Hi, I just hooked up my Microkeyer 2 installed all software and the
software is communicating with the radio.  However if I talk into my
Mike there is no transmit occurring via Vox or PTT on the radio. Pi
am using a Heil preset as received from Elecraft. I have the k3 front
mic cable. I have the wire marked line in on the cable to the line in
on the radio. Same for line out. I have set jumpers to non electret.
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.? Thanks


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Re: [Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?

2013-12-26 Thread Ted Edwards W3TB
Very good!
Wish I had a KX3 with me so I could work you as G0PWW!


On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM, lmar...@mt.net wrote:

 15 meters is a very overlooked band in my opinion.
 Its open way more than 10 meters. Its quiet, lots of room.
 Easy 23 foot dipole antenna and a KX3  and you are working the world,
 CW or SSB. And if you can get 48 feet of wire loop up somewhere,
 you will be astonished.  I can always find DX CW on 15 mtrs.

 73  Leroy AB7CE

 -Original Message- From: Joe W2KJ
 Subject: [Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?



 Solar Flux today is only at 123 so condx not great but 15m can be magical
 at times.


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-- 
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/26/2013 4:36 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

The 7600 is also an RF trash generator -- clicks and
phase noise abound.

Not as bad as many others...Flex Radios the worst by far:


That does not consider clicks -- most if not all Icom radios have a 
leading spike, and the keying rise time on the 7600 is adjustable over a 
wide range, most settings of which produce broad clicks.


Can't speak to the Flex radios -- so far, I've not lived close to one.

Thanks for the link to the SM5BSZ review. Your copy of the table doesn't 
work very well in email, but the data in Leif's report is quite clear. 
It says that the 7600 is 11dB worse than the K3 -- that's 12X the power 
of the trash within 20 kHz for phase noise alone!


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Out of band limits

2013-12-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/26/2013 8:49 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

 IS there a way to shut off the out of band transmit limits in the K3?  I'm
 down in the Caribbean trying to fine tune my antennas and it's impossible to
 do with the limiter in place. 

I'm sure it's do-able -- the MARS folks do it all the time.
(Disclaimer - I don't own a K3 so I could be 100% wrong.)

 [Nb. Yeah I'm sure some smart guy on frequency will say fly home and get my
 autek bridge.]

Probably cheaper to order another one as long as UPS/FedEx gets their
act together.  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/26/2013 10:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
It says that the 7600 is 11dB worse than the K3 -- that's 12X the 
power of the trash within 20 kHz for phase noise alone!


Correction -- the 7600 is 17 dB worse than the K3, 50X the power of the 
trash from phase noise.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/26/2013 8:17 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
 These have caught my eye at my local Costco recently:
 
 http://www.costco.com/Sony-MDR-10RDC-Premium-Noise-Canceling-Headphones.product.100083695.html
 
 but I keep reminding myself that I have too many headsets already :)

Is it worth 180 bucks?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org wrote:
 On 12/26/2013 8:17 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
 These have caught my eye at my local Costco recently:

 http://www.costco.com/Sony-MDR-10RDC-Premium-Noise-Canceling-Headphones.product.100083695.html

 but I keep reminding myself that I have too many headsets already :)

 Is it worth 180 bucks?

Maybe, if you operate in a noisy environment. The Bose QC15 that
others are raving about sells for ~$270 !

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Mark Petiford
Re:  Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in 
aheadset such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just 
anON-OFF switch like the headsets have.

Well, sort of, Tony.  In the aviation world,  conversions kits have been 
marketed for popular (in aviation circles) headsets to convert them to noise 
canceling.  They weren't black box plug-in devices, but rather a kit of 
microphones and electronics mounted in each earpiece and required some 
disassembly of the existing earpieces.  I believe they were made for David 
Clark and Flightcom headsets, and maybe a few others.  The result was a 
significant improvement over the original passive headsets, but not as good as 
a good pair of noise canceling headsets.  I don't know if they are still 
available.  I suspect the low end of the noise canceling headset market has 
displaced them.    

Mark
KE6BB


From: N2TK, Tonytony@verizon.net
Sent: ‎Thu, ‎Dec‎ ‎26‎, ‎2013 at ‎5‎:‎20‎ ‎AM
To:  Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in aheadset 
such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just anON-OFF switch 
like the headsets have.And thinking of the CM-500. Has anyone found a set of 
material covers thatfit their ear covers? I would think they would be more 
comfortable than theplastic against your head. And they would look better than 
the pieces ofpaper towels I presently use when wearing the headphones for 
extendedperiods. :-)73,N2TK, Tony-Original Message-From: 
elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Gary SmithSent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:58 AMTo: 
elecr...@mailman.qth.netSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling HeadphonesI 
use the Bose QC-15 as about all I do is CW and the audio on these iswonderful. 
The noise cancelling though is almost 100% perfect; my old Alphawith its blower 
is 18 from my head and with the QC-15 on I can't but just
 barely tell the amp is on or off. I was thinking about getting a headset with 
a mic  though Bose does makethe A20 for pilots, at $1100 for what is 
essentially the QC-15 with a boommic, I'll pass. They do make a A100T snap on 
mic for theQC15 but they are $250 for just the mic. I was referred by quite a 
fewpeople here to check out the Yamaha CM500 for a fine mic, quick match to 
theK3 and comfortable headsets  at $59. I'm so happy with the Bose QC15 that 
I'm going to keep using these and amgoing to need to figure out another way to 
get a mic into theK3 in a way that will be convenient for contesting should I 
ever decide todo a phone contest. I have an Electrovoice RE-10 which would 
probably benice  needs no power  maybe I can make a clamp-on boom that I can 
remove from the desk once the contest is over. I also have several condenser 
mics but they are for recording and would be excessand just problematic for ham 
use.Anyone have any suggestion of a
 removable boom mic other than the A100T thatwill attach to the QC-15 and make 
it simple to use and then remove when thecontest is over? I don't want to use 
velcro.Thanks  73,GaryKA1J---This email is free from viruses and malware 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Safely running 100% key-down modes

2013-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bruce,

The base K2 power is proportional to the power out of the KPA100 - so if 
the KPA100 is running at 20 watts, the base K2 is driving at about 2 watts.


You can run 100% duty cycle transmissions safely at 35 watts, and could 
probably push it to 50 watts if you provide auxiliary cooling for the 
KPA100 and the receive periods are long enough to allow the heatsink to 
cool.  You could increase the cooling by placing a muffin fan over the 
heat sink.


It is heat that will create problems - you can always use your fingers 
as an indicator.  If the surface of the heat sink is too hot to hold 
your fingers on it, it is likely too hot.  Don't forget that the base K2 
PA transistors are on the bottom rear.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2013 12:06 PM, K1FFX wrote:

I starting to use my K2/100 in two 100% key-down modes, JT-65 and PSK-31.
What
should I be keeping in mind in protecting the output stage for the K2 and
for the KPA100?

For JT-65, since it is a QRP mode, I'm running at about 5 watts, and
transmissions are
limited to about 45 seconds.  So, I'm hoping that K2's output transistors
will not be stressed
in this mode.

But, how about PSK-31?  I'd like to run about 20 watts and each transmission
could easily
be 3 or so minutes.  I don't know at what output power the base K2 runs when
the KPA100
kicks in (i.e., at above 10 watts).  I assume that normally the KPA100 will
be loafing at 20
watts, but I'm not sure the impact of 100% key down on its output stage.

I'd appreciate any guidance in keeping the K2/100 safe in these modes.




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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/26/2013 10:39 AM, Mark Petiford wrote:

Re:  Is there such a thing as a noise cancelling black box you can plug in aheadset 
such as the CM-500 and get good noise canceling? No knobs. Just anON-OFF switch like the 
headsets have.

Well, sort of, Tony.  In the aviation world,  conversions kits have been marketed for 
popular (in aviation circles) headsets to convert them to noise canceling.  They weren't 
black box plug-in devices, but rather a kit of microphones and electronics 
mounted in each earpiece and required some disassembly of the existing earpieces.  I 
believe they were made for David Clark and Flightcom headsets, and maybe a few others.  
The result was a significant improvement over the original passive headset


Right.  Successful noise cancelling requires that the resulting acoustic 
output AS COUPLED TO THE EAR CANAL precisely match the acoustic noise 
that GETS THROUGH THE HEADPHONES TO THE EAR CANAL (caps added for 
emphasis) in both magnitude and phase, and that the two acoustic signals 
are out of polarity. That means that the mic picking up the noise be 
very close to the headphones, the distance between the mic, the 
transducer, and the ear must be compensated, and the relative response, 
both magnitude and phase, must be precisely compensated.  That's a VERY 
difficult design problem, and a really good solution is only practical 
when everything is built as an integrated package, with dedicated mic, 
headphone transducers, and electronics.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Oliver Johns
Jim,

I'd worry about sudden surges of high-intensity audio.  They happen even in the 
best families.  Your ears could be badly damaged before you could yank the 
Etymotics out.  I'd never, ever use in-ear headphones in a ham-rig setting.

Oliver
W6ODJ


On 25 Jan. 2013, at 20:40 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

 On 12/25/2013 8:22 PM, Randy Farmer wrote:
 The Radiosport RS 20 headphones are the way to go. They're not cheap, but 
 they really do the job. They have NO electronic circuitry to give RFI 
 problems, just 24 dB of noise reduction due to their excellent acoustic 
 isolation.
 
 I tried them, and found them to be VERY VERY uncomfortable, to the point of 
 being instruments of torture. I'm a contester, and often am in the chair for 
 20-30 hours in a weekend. I couldn't wear the Radiosport cans for an hour.
 
 I'd rate the acoustic seal of CM500s comparable to Sony MDR7506 / MDR-V6, all 
 of which I've owned and like a lot.  In other words, if you're not happy with 
 the MDR-V6, you won't be happy with the CM500. :)  I have heard that east 
 coast contesters love the Bose noise cancelling headphones, but I've never 
 heard them.  I did try a pair of Sennheiser noise cancelling headphones 
 almost 20 years ago, and they seemed to work, but I wasn't being critical, 
 and that was 20 years ago. :)
 
 The best, and most comfortable, noise isolating headphones I know of are the 
 Etymotic Research ER4-series in-ear earsets,  I own two pairs, and wore out 
 one of the cables. They come with 3-4 generic ear fittings, and I found one 
 of them to work well for me -- good isolation and comfort. Cost was about 
 $200 eight years ago when I bought them. The greatest isolation is achieved 
 with custom ear molds, which you buy from an audiologist who fits them to 
 your ear canal.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/26/2013 11:06 AM, Oliver Johns wrote:

I'd worry about sudden surges of high-intensity audio.


YES -- this is why I consider turning off AGC a really bad idea, 
especially in a contesting environment where you have the RF gain 
cranked to copy a very weak station and a guy calls you with a signal 
well over S9.



  They happen even in the best families.  Your ears could be badly damaged 
before you could yank the Etymotics out.  I'd never, ever use in-ear headphones 
in a ham-rig setting.


Absolutely no difference between in-ear and circumaural to the extent 
that the transducers are linear.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Out of band limits.

2013-12-26 Thread Jerry
Yes there is a solution, it is software and might have to have hardware
installed. Best to get ahold of Elecraft and ask them.

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/26/2013 11:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

 Successful noise cancelling requires that the resulting acoustic output
 AS COUPLED TO THE EAR CANAL precisely match the acoustic noise that GETS
 THROUGH THE HEADPHONES TO THE EAR CANAL (caps added for emphasis) in
 both magnitude and phase, and that the two acoustic signals are out of
 polarity. That means that the mic picking up the noise be very close to
 the headphones, the distance between the mic, the transducer, and the
 ear must be compensated, and the relative response, both magnitude and
 phase, must be precisely compensated.  That's a VERY difficult design
 problem, and a really good solution is only practical when everything is
 built as an integrated package, with dedicated mic, headphone
 transducers, and electronics.

That, and the miniaturization and customization involved, is why my
hearing assistance devices (high-end Phonak behind-the ear hearing aids)
cost $3000 per ear.

I have yet to try conventional large-cuff headphones since I got those
aids three plus years ago.  I use a streaming audio adapter that
Bluetooth-couples to the aids.  It doesn't solve the noise problem but
is more comfortable.

That works with my K2 just fine!  For data modes (RTTY/PSK/SITOR) I work
quiet room (RX AF volume at minimum) and use the waterfall as my
tuning aid.
-- 
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Oliver Johns
Jim,

It takes longer to gouge in-ear phones out of your ear canal than it does to 
fling off a pair of over-ear cans.  That's the problem.  A piece of radio gear 
may at any instant decide to go ballistic and produce a loud buzz or whistle 
that can damage you.  Keeping the AGC on is not a certain protection.

Oliver
W6ODJ


On 26 Jan. 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

 On 12/26/2013 11:06 AM, Oliver Johns wrote:
 I'd worry about sudden surges of high-intensity audio.
 
 YES -- this is why I consider turning off AGC a really bad idea, especially 
 in a contesting environment where you have the RF gain cranked to copy a very 
 weak station and a guy calls you with a signal well over S9.
 
  They happen even in the best families.  Your ears could be badly damaged 
 before you could yank the Etymotics out.  I'd never, ever use in-ear 
 headphones in a ham-rig setting.
 
 Absolutely no difference between in-ear and circumaural to the extent that 
 the transducers are linear.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/26/2013 1:00 PM, Oliver Johns wrote:

It takes longer to gouge in-ear phones out of your ear canal than it does to 
fling off a pair of over-ear cans.


How do you know that?  Have you tied both?  I have, and I have NOT found 
this to be true.  Further, I can  grab the audio gain control as quickly 
as I can remove headphones. The simple solution is to set up and operate 
the radio so that it does not blast you with levels that can produce 
hearing loss. I worked many years in pro audio, and this is something 
all of us have had to be quite conscious of.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Safely running 100% key-down modes

2013-12-26 Thread EricJ
I run JT9 and JT65 very frequently with the K2/100. Most of the time, I 
run 5 watts. If needed I'll crank it up to 20 watts, so I can assure you 
it's quite safe at that power level.


When the linear kicks in the K2 drive power to the linearis 
proportional, so if you are within the duty cycle of the linear, you are 
within the duty cycle of the K2 barefoot.


At 20 watts the fan usually comes on after about 30 seconds of TX and 
stays on for the remainder of the TX cycle and much of the RX cycle. At 
around 25-30 watts, the fan is on all the time, but I don't ever run it 
that high. The JT modes are meant for weak signals so I only work weak 
signals and find that at 15-20 watts I'm giving very close to the same 
signal report I receive.


For PSK, I stick to the same power levels as JT modes.  I don't run PSK 
very often because it's not as interesting to me. I lost patience with 
brag tapes in the RTTY days. Now they provide model numbers of every 
rig, every radio accessory and every computer specification including 
version numbers of software even if they aren't using that gear for the 
QSO. Sort of a shopping list for burglars.


The K2 does a very nice job with all the digital modes.

Eric
KE6US



On 12/26/2013 9:06 AM, K1FFX wrote:

I starting to use my K2/100 in two 100% key-down modes, JT-65 and PSK-31.
What
should I be keeping in mind in protecting the output stage for the K2 and
for the KPA100?

For JT-65, since it is a QRP mode, I'm running at about 5 watts, and
transmissions are
limited to about 45 seconds.  So, I'm hoping that K2's output transistors
will not be stressed
in this mode.

But, how about PSK-31?  I'd like to run about 20 watts and each transmission
could easily
be 3 or so minutes.  I don't know at what output power the base K2 runs when
the KPA100
kicks in (i.e., at above 10 watts).  I assume that normally the KPA100 will
be loafing at 20
watts, but I'm not sure the impact of 100% key down on its output stage.

I'd appreciate any guidance in keeping the K2/100 safe in these modes.

Thanks -

Bruce K1FFX




-
Bruce Rosen
K1FFX
K2/100 6982 KSB2 KAT100-1

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[Elecraft] Extreme Isolation headphones FS

2013-12-26 Thread ac5p
I have a pair of  Direct Sound EX-29 headphones surplus to my needs.   Low 
hours use, condition excellent.
more info here  http://www.extremeheadphones.com/products/ex-29-headphones   
Asking $75 plus $10 postage.
73, Mike  AC5P
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[Elecraft] K2

2013-12-26 Thread Bruce Rattray
How do I get my credit card info to Elecraft,  tnx  73  Bruce  ve5rc

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Re: [Elecraft] Ever had a WOW moment?

2013-12-26 Thread Mel Farrer
Yes, I remember WOW back in the 1958 season. I was running a Heathkit Lunchbox 
on 6 meters and worked everything I could hear.   NOW in this century I am 
doing the same with my KX3.  What a kick in the A##.  Happy New Year everyone.  

Mel, K6KBE





On Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:32 PM, Joe W2KJ w...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
Howdy Gang:

As the subject says, have you ever had a WOW moment using QRP on the bands??

I just did as I answered a very weak response to my CQ on 21.060 at 1613Z.

G3YPZ called and I couldn't really couldn't copy much until I got him zero beat 
and turned on the APF in my KX3.

Finally got his call and then copied just about 100% of his transmissions from 
then on.

Turns out that John was running a K3  at 100mw!!  Of course the fact that he 
had a 2 element quad certainly helped but I can't recall ever working a DX 
station when he was running so little power.

Solar Flux today is only at 123 so condx not great but 15m can be magical at 
times.

This QRP stuff is amazing...we can be thankful to Wayne and Eric for such 
superb equipment that allow us to work farther with less these days.

I harken back to my beginning days as a Novice with a homebrew 6V6 and S77 
Hallicrafters receiver...amazing that I made any QSOs back then in 1962!!

            73, Joe W2KJ
            I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] K2

2013-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bruce,

The direct path is to go to http://www.elecraft.com/newcc.html a secure 
page will open.


The longer path through the Elecraft webpage is to click on Order and 
scroll down until you see the line If you only need to send us new 
Credit Card Information, or order parts not shown on our spare parts 
page, Click Here.


You can also call the office at 831/763-4211 and give your information 
over the phone if that feels more secure to you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2013 6:21 PM, Bruce Rattray wrote:

How do I get my credit card info to Elecraft,  tnx  73  Bruce  ve5rc




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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Steve Kercel
With my Bose QC2 phones, I've never noticed any diminution in the 
quality of the desired signal. Full disclosure: I'm a CW guy. I have no 
idea how they perform on SSB.


73,

Steve
AA4AK


On 12/26/2013 8:30 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
I've never tried noise cancelling headphones, so my one question is, 
does anyone detect ANY effect to the desired audio?  In other words, 
any Noise-Blanker  effects or coloration of the audio?
I would suppose that, since they're designed for music, the noise 
cancelling function is transparent, right?


On the very few flights I've taken recently, I successfully used my 
old Sony MDR-7506's.  Maybe I don't know what I'm missing by NOT using 
a noise cancelling set.


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones



True noise cancelling headphones will cut noise far, far beyond anything
acoustic isolation from ear pads can accomplish.

I have a pair of Audio-Technia QuierPoint ATH-ANC1. They are on ear 
types

so I didn't recommend them to the person asking for ones that cover the
ears. They are very comfortable for me.

When I fly, as the roar and whine of the big jet engines invades the 
cabin,
I just switch them on and all the racket becomes a quite background 
purr.


I often wear them for the entire 11 hours from the west coast of the 
USA to

Europe, even if I'm not listening to any programs.

The active circuitry in true noise-cancelling phones inverts the sound
arriving and so actually cancels it out.

The circuit takes a few seconds to adapt so when the attendant brings my
drink she has no trouble waking me.

73 Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Joel Black

I appreciate all the replies.

I learned a couple of things:

1. Noise-cancelling technology is not cheap, and

2. It's probably best that I actually audition (I think that's what 
someone called it) the headphones.


I really do not need anything that will accept a mic. I am about 90% CW, 
7% data, and 3% voice. For the little that I am on voice, I have the MH2 
mic.


Most folks that responded recommended the Bose Quiet Comfort 15's.

In reference to number 1 above, I really had no idea noise-cancelling 
headphones would be so expensive, but you get what you pay for. A review 
site I found was www.head-fi.org. The Bose QC15 were rated #3 and 
followed the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (#1 and not sure if they're noise 
cancelling or sound blocking) and the PSB M4U 2 (#2). However, like 
eHam.net, it's all subjective - folks either like the headphones or 
don't and there's no analytical data to back up their findings.


73,
Joel - W4JBB



On 12/25/13, 4:16 PM, Joel Black wrote:

I am looking for a pair of noise cancelling headphones.

I have a pair of Sony MDR-V6's that I love, but they do not have noise 
cancelling capability and my wife's embroidery machine is severely 
limiting my radio operations.


I have already looked at the Yamaha CM500's because they come so 
highly recommended on this group. If they're noise cancelling, I 
cannot find that information about them.


I want something that will last. The MDR-V6's have lasted at least 10 
years if not longer. I've only had to replace the earpads.


I want something that *covers* my ear *not* something that sits *on* 
my ear. Those that sit *on* my ears are uncomfortable after a very 
short while.


Merry Christmas and 73,

Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The Audio Technic QuietPoint phones I mentioned before are still under $80
on Amazon. But they are on-ear types that I chose for small size when folded
up to fit in my briefcase. Besides, being noise cancelling, isolating my
ears from ambient sounds is not very important and I don't find them
uncomfortable on long flights. 

They, along with many other Audio-Technica noise cancelling headphones that
do cover your ears are available on Amazon. Here's a tinyurl link:

http://tinyurl.com/mbbafjs

The ones I have are at the top.

Do they work as well as the high-priced phones? I have no idea. I don't have
a store nearby where I can try them side-by-side. Besides, the high-priced
units like Bose would have to come with free Champagne before I'd consider
spending that much money on phones considering how well the cheaper ones
work. 

Note that they do not suppress speech (or a crying baby). They work very,
very well on steady noise (like fans or jet engines). You switch them on and
a few seconds later the racket suddenly fades into the distant background. 

73 Ron AC7AC



 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joel Black
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:43 PM
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

I appreciate all the replies.

I learned a couple of things:

1. Noise-cancelling technology is not cheap, and

2. It's probably best that I actually audition (I think that's what
someone called it) the headphones.

I really do not need anything that will accept a mic. I am about 90% CW, 7%
data, and 3% voice. For the little that I am on voice, I have the MH2 mic.

Most folks that responded recommended the Bose Quiet Comfort 15's.

In reference to number 1 above, I really had no idea noise-cancelling
headphones would be so expensive, but you get what you pay for. A review
site I found was www.head-fi.org. The Bose QC15 were rated #3 and followed
the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (#1 and not sure if they're noise cancelling or
sound blocking) and the PSB M4U 2 (#2). However, like eHam.net, it's all
subjective - folks either like the headphones or don't and there's no
analytical data to back up their findings.

73,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Gary Smith
Worth the money is personal taste perhaps. I tried several noise 
cancelling headsets from the common passive variety with excellent 
sound-proofing to several with the electronic noise removal. Without 
a doubt the most comfortable and most effective headsets I compared 
were the Bose QC-2. That headphone had issues and was out of 
warranty. However, Bose will replace a failed headset out of warranty 
with the same or the next generation of headset for $100. I spotted 
for the new generation and these are lighter and at least as 
effective as the older Bose QC2. It's still worth my time to check 
out new ones in the off-chance something will beat the QC-15 but to 
date audio quality and ambient sound removal-wise, this is it.

Gary
KA1J
 
 On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org
 wrote:
  On 12/26/2013 8:17 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
  These have caught my eye at my local Costco recently:
 
 
 http://www.costco.com/Sony-MDR-10RDC-Premium-Noise-Canceling-Headpho
 nes.product.100083695.html
 
  but I keep reminding myself that I have too many headsets already
 :)
 
  Is it worth 180 bucks?
 
 Maybe, if you operate in a noisy environment. The Bose QC15 that
 others are raving about sells for ~$270 !
 
 73,
 
 ~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] Wtb Kpa100 toroids

2013-12-26 Thread John Cooper

Anyone have a bag of prewound toroids for kpa100 or there original kpa100 
toroids and wirebag?  Looking to buy a set.

WT5Y

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Gary K9GS
I know that here in Wisconsin, Bose has an outlet store in a nearby 
mall.  I assume you could try on a pair although I have not done so.



On 12/26/2013 5:43 PM, Joel Black wrote:

I appreciate all the replies.

I learned a couple of things:

1. Noise-cancelling technology is not cheap, and

2. It's probably best that I actually audition (I think that's what 
someone called it) the headphones.


I really do not need anything that will accept a mic. I am about 90% 
CW, 7% data, and 3% voice. For the little that I am on voice, I have 
the MH2 mic.


Most folks that responded recommended the Bose Quiet Comfort 15's.

In reference to number 1 above, I really had no idea noise-cancelling 
headphones would be so expensive, but you get what you pay for. A 
review site I found was www.head-fi.org. The Bose QC15 were rated #3 
and followed the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (#1 and not sure if they're 
noise cancelling or sound blocking) and the PSB M4U 2 (#2). However, 
like eHam.net, it's all subjective - folks either like the headphones 
or don't and there's no analytical data to back up their findings.


73,
Joel - W4JBB



On 12/25/13, 4:16 PM, Joel Black wrote:

I am looking for a pair of noise cancelling headphones.

I have a pair of Sony MDR-V6's that I love, but they do not have 
noise cancelling capability and my wife's embroidery machine is 
severely limiting my radio operations.


I have already looked at the Yamaha CM500's because they come so 
highly recommended on this group. If they're noise cancelling, I 
cannot find that information about them.


I want something that will last. The MDR-V6's have lasted at least 10 
years if not longer. I've only had to replace the earpads.


I want something that *covers* my ear *not* something that sits *on* 
my ear. Those that sit *on* my ears are uncomfortable after a very 
short while.


Merry Christmas and 73,

Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] Wtb Kpa100 toroids

2013-12-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
You can get them from the 'Mychael Morohovich AA3WF (toroid...@earthlink.net) 
who is an approved toroid supplier by Elecraft.

73, Ron AC7AC 

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Anyone have a bag of prewound toroids for kpa100 or there original kpa100 
toroids and wirebag?  Looking to buy a set.

WT5Y

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Re: [Elecraft] Wtb Kpa100 toroids

2013-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

Try The Toroid Guy - Mychael AA3WF - toroid...@earthlink.net.
The KPA100 toroid set is $45.00 plus $8 shipping - he takes PayPal.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2013 9:19 PM, John Cooper wrote:

Anyone have a bag of prewound toroids for kpa100 or there original kpa100 
toroids and wirebag?  Looking to buy a set.

WT5Y




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Re: [Elecraft] K2

2013-12-26 Thread John_N1JM
http://www.elecraft.com/newcc.html

73, John N1JM



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73, John N1JM
K3 #5986
P3 #1752
KPA500 #596
KX3 #926
XG3
XG1

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[Elecraft] Anyone using, or want to use, solar power with their KX3? Micro M+ Controller

2013-12-26 Thread Steve KC8QVO
A few years ago I got a Micro M+ charge controller for running my trail rigs
off solar power. I combined it with some panel strips from Powerfilm and it
has been a really great combo. With my KX3 and a 7Ah battery I can run
indefinitely on backpacking and camping trips - for as much as I've used the
rig in camp.

The kits haven't been available for a while and I've been wanting to get a
few more of these. So I took the schematic and parts from the QST article
about it and pieced it together - with perf board and an enclosure (just no
board mounting stuff, I'll have to figure it out later). 

Note that by changing one of the resistors you can change the output from
charging 12v batteries to 9.6v = the same voltage of the internal AA's, if
you so choose to use those in your KX3. with two sets you could run one set
and charge the other.

My parts list, and a bit more detail, can be viewed in my  QRZ post.
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?418308-Micro-M-Solar-Charge-Controller-Parts-List-for-Rolling-Your-Own
   

I hope this helps. 

Steve, KC8QVO



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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling Headphones

2013-12-26 Thread Edward R Cole
Several years ago I ordered StennHeiser on-ear noise-cancelling 
headphones for reducing noise on aircraft.  This was not a luxury 
purchase but following orders of my audiologist to protect my hearing 
always when flying.


Previously, I had to remove hearing aids and insert foam ear-plugs, 
which meant I was totally deaf for any in-flight conversation.  The 
StennHeiser's cost me about $150, and did reduce noise slightly, but 
were very uncomfortable to wear with hearaids.  Removing hearing aids 
and I was back in my silent incommunicado world.


So I bought the $300 Bose QC2  (QC15 were not made back then) with 
comfortable around-ear muff.  This proved to be a good investment 
later when I upgraded to Phonac OTR hearing aids which would 
absolutely be incompatible with on the ear styles.  I gave my 
StennHeiser to my then-new wife who only used them a couple times.


I have not tried them in the noisy shack when I run the 8877 blower 
(because I am running eme digital modes which are a text mode).  Soon 
I will be trying to run CW eme and the Bose may help a lot to 
minimize blower noise so I can copy extreme weak signals.


BTW I have a pair of Sony MDR-V600 stereo headphones that have done 
good service for copying weak signals for over a decade.  They are 
over the ear muffs which I must use with my OTR hearing aids.


Recently, I have been playing with the NR settings of the K3 to find 
a good compromise with quieting vs distortion of sounds (F1-2 works 
fairly well for me as any distorting of sound makes it harder to 
understand speech).  For weak CW cranking down the bandwidth to 
100-Hz is the best vs NR.  Definition: weak CW  -6 dB SNR...signal 
strengths about -170 dBm.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
Kits made by KL7UW
Dubus Mag business:
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[Elecraft] Yamaha CM500 replacement pads

2013-12-26 Thread Jim McCook
Today I called Yamaha parts dept. to order pads for my CM500. I was told 
they don't supply any parts for that headset, but if the pads break down 
within warranty they will just replace the entire headset. My son in law 
does part time work for Yamaha, and verified that they work this way 
with almost everything.


I checked other routes, but came up empty.Headphones.com had nothing 
close. The closest I could find were at Scan Sound.com:


http://www.scansound.com/index.php/headset-cushions/leatherette-headset-cushions/teardrop-shaped-leatherette-cushions-for-wireless-headphones.html

They are 80mm wide, so would probably rip while trying to stretch them 
over the 95mm diam. Yamaha.If anyone is successful with these or other 
similar type pads, please post it. It seems our choices are live with 
what we have, use disposable covers, or purchase a new CM500.


It would be nice to know how those covers affect comfort and audio, 
since the ear normally is inside the outer pad, next to the transducer.


73, Jim

W6YA

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