Re: [Elecraft] KUSB CABLE

2022-12-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave,

Get one with the FTDI chipset and you should be OK.  There are others, 
but do not buy one with the Prolific chipset.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2022 5:27 PM, dave arruzza via Elecraft wrote:

To all: I believe my KUSB cable has gone bad due to a power failure
Since the power failure a red light is blinking from within the RS232 housing 
and random dits are generated.
Is there a "over the counter" ie: Amazon etc. equivalent.



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[Elecraft] KUSB CABLE

2022-12-11 Thread dave arruzza via Elecraft
To all: I believe my KUSB cable has gone bad due to a power failure 
Since the power failure a red light is blinking from within the RS232 housing 
and random dits are generated. 
Is there a "over the counter" ie: Amazon etc. equivalent. 
73 Dave W1CTN
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[Elecraft] KUSB cable for sale

2021-12-27 Thread Carl Yaffey
$20 Paypal.

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[Elecraft] KUSB cable for sale

2021-11-01 Thread Carl Yaffey
New KUSB cable. $30. CONUS only, Paypal.
73
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB cable needed

2019-03-01 Thread TJ Campie
Sabrent USB 2.0 to Serial (9-Pin)...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006AA04K0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This one works great with my k3
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[Elecraft] KUSB cable needed

2019-03-01 Thread Howard Sherer
I must have lost my KUSB cable to connect my KPA 500 to a computer for
remote control (9pin male to USB). I have many KXUSB cables. dose anyone
have an extra to either sell or trade?

Howard AE3T
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[Elecraft] KUSB cable required

2018-10-31 Thread Len
Hello Elecrafter’s.  Do any of you have a spare KUSB cable that they would like 
to sell me?  I have gone through all my accessory drawers, behind my desk, and 
equipment boxes.  I cannot program any of my K-line without it!  Tnx and best 
73.  Len
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-04 Thread Nr4c
But K3S has direct USB, no need for KUSB which is a USB to Serial converter. 

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> On Jun 3, 2017, at 11:44 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> Connecting a USB-only computer (laptops especially) to the radio would
> be my SWAG...
> 
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> 
>> On 6/3/2017 9:43 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
>> Why do you normally use a KUSB with a K3S?
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> From: Roman Brandau
>> Sat Jun 3 21:03:15 EDT 2017
>> 
>> Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry I forgot to mention I'm using a K3s. 
>> 
>> Roman Brandau
>> Sent from my iPhone
 On 6/3/2017 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau wrote:
 I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B
>> cable be used? I'm guessing no...
 Roman Brandau
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread Clay Autery
Connecting a USB-only computer (laptops especially) to the radio would
be my SWAG...

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On 6/3/2017 9:43 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> Why do you normally use a KUSB with a K3S?
>
> John KK9A
>
> From: Roman Brandau
> Sat Jun 3 21:03:15 EDT 2017
>
> Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry I forgot to mention I'm using a K3s. 
>
> Roman Brandau
> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On 6/3/2017 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau wrote:
>>> I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B
> cable be used? I'm guessing no...
>>> Roman Brandau
>>> WU8R
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread john
Why do you normally use a KUSB with a K3S?

John KK9A

From: Roman Brandau
Sat Jun 3 21:03:15 EDT 2017

Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry I forgot to mention I'm using a K3s. 

Roman Brandau
Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 6/3/2017 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau wrote:
>> I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B
cable be used? I'm guessing no...
>> Roman Brandau
>> WU8R
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread Roman Brandau
Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry I forgot to mention I'm using a K3s. 
Thanks, Don. 

Roman Brandau
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2017, at 19:45, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Roman,
> 
> You did not say which transceiver you have, so I will try to give you the 
> full answer.
> 
> If you have the K3S or a K3 with the updated KIO3B (with a USB input), then 
> the answer is yes.  Plug the cable between your USB port and the K3S.
> 
> But the KUSB implies that it is a USB to serial converter, not just a USB 
> cable.
> If you can obtain a USB to RS-232 converter where you are it should work.  
> The chipset desired is FTDI.  Others may work, but Prolific chipsets are 
> "iffy".
> 
> OTOH, if you have a KX2 or KX3, you will need a 1/8 inch stereo plug on the 
> rig end.  If you have a USB to serial adapter, you can build an RS-232 to 1/8 
> inch stereo plug cable.  Download the XG3 manual from Elecraft, there is a 
> schematic of the cable in that manual.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 6/3/2017 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau wrote:
>> I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B 
>> cable be used? I'm guessing no...
>> Roman Brandau
>> WU8R
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread Nr4c
What radio?


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> On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau  wrote:
> 
> I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B 
> cable be used? I'm guessing no...
> 
> Roman Brandau
> WU8R
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Roman,

You did not say which transceiver you have, so I will try to give you 
the full answer.


If you have the K3S or a K3 with the updated KIO3B (with a USB input), 
then the answer is yes.  Plug the cable between your USB port and the K3S.


But the KUSB implies that it is a USB to serial converter, not just a 
USB cable.
If you can obtain a USB to RS-232 converter where you are it should 
work.  The chipset desired is FTDI.  Others may work, but Prolific 
chipsets are "iffy".


OTOH, if you have a KX2 or KX3, you will need a 1/8 inch stereo plug on 
the rig end.  If you have a USB to serial adapter, you can build an 
RS-232 to 1/8 inch stereo plug cable.  Download the XG3 manual from 
Elecraft, there is a schematic of the cable in that manual.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/3/2017 7:25 PM, Roman Brandau wrote:

I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B cable 
be used? I'm guessing no...

Roman Brandau
WU8R
Sent from my iPhone
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[Elecraft] KUSB

2017-06-03 Thread Roman Brandau
I'm on a mini DXPedition and left my KUSB at home. Can a regular USB A-B cable 
be used? I'm guessing no...

Roman Brandau
WU8R
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10

2017-01-09 Thread John Saxon via Elecraft
Hey...I clicked this link and my McAfee went crazy...all kinds of warnings 
about this site.  Has anyone else had this happen?  Has anyone used this link?
Thanks,JohnK5ENQ

  From: Dick Grolleman 
 To: Peter Chamalian ; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
 
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 1:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10
   
Hello Pete and All

Windows 10, does an automatic update on the original driver. This will not work 
with the old Profilic cable.
There is a fix for it. Follow the link below and install the Profilic driver 
from there. This did the trick for me.

http://www.ifamilysoftware.com/news37.html

I still use the same cable purchased in 2008 with my K3 with Windows 10.

73 de Dick PA3FQA



   
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10

2017-01-08 Thread Dick Grolleman
Hello Pete and All

Windows 10, does an automatic update on the original driver. This will not work 
with the old Profilic cable.
There is a fix for it. Follow the link below and install the Profilic driver 
from there. This did the trick for me.

http://www.ifamilysoftware.com/news37.html

I still use the same cable purchased in 2008 with my K3 with Windows 10.

73 de Dick PA3FQA



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Verzonden: zondag 8 januari 2017 20:01
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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10

I have a KUSB that I purchased in April 2010.  It works just fine with a 
windows 7.  On 7, the driver is provided by prolific version 3..3.2.102.  On 
windows 10 the system installed Prolific version 3.8.3.0 

 

On Windows 10, the system manager is giving me the error not enough quota, not 
enough virtual memory or paging file quota is available to complete the 
operation

 

I haven't a clue what the means.  Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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[Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10

2017-01-08 Thread Peter Chamalian
I have a KUSB that I purchased in April 2010.  It works just fine with a
windows 7.  On 7, the driver is provided by prolific version 3..3.2.102.  On
windows 10 the system installed Prolific version 3.8.3.0 

 

On Windows 10, the system manager is giving me the error not enough quota,
not enough virtual memory or paging file quota is available to complete the
operation

 

I haven't a clue what the means.  Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-28 Thread Kevin
If windows isn't finding the device you may have to install the driver 
manually. No big deal.


Download the driver from Elecraft onto a thumb drive. Browse to the file 
on the thumb drive and run the setup. Follow the instructions. Once 
installed, possibly after a reboot, plug the device in a USB port. If 
your going to be plugging/unplugging the device make sure you plug it 
back in the same port.


You should be able to see the port the install created by going to 
Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager -> Ports.



On 11/27/2016 7:16 PM, Jim Allen wrote:

I have no idea.  It is a KUSB I just bought recently from Elecraft.

When I plugged it in, it wasn't recognized, new device found, etc.  I thought 
the driver would be there, like so many are, but no.

Is there a secret to plugging things in?  I turned the machine off, plugged it 
in and restarted the machine.

It found my Funcube Pro Plus before, no problem.

Thanks!

73 Jim Allen W6OGC

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 27, 2016, at 18:44, Nr4c  wrote:

All my WIN10 machines had no issue with drivers for FTDI devices.
Is yours an older Prolific KUSB?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Jim Allen  wrote:

What driver do I need for the KUSB device? I have a K2 and am connecting it to 
a W10 machine that has no internet connection.  Where would I get it?  Can I 
put it on a thumb drive and copy it onto the W10 machine?  Where should it go 
on that device?

TIA.

73 Jim Allen W6OGC

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-27 Thread Wes Stewart
I'm no expert but after having trouble with another device with an FTDI USB to 
Serial chip in it, I found that I needed to manually install the Virtual Com 
Port (VCP) driver.  I believe that this driver used to come separately but is 
now part of a package from FTDI and requires checking a box during installation. 
Don't ask me where; I've forgotten the complete process.


On 11/27/2016 6:16 PM, Jim Allen wrote:

I have no idea.  It is a KUSB I just bought recently from Elecraft.

When I plugged it in, it wasn't recognized, new device found, etc.  I thought 
the driver would be there, like so many are, but no.

Is there a secret to plugging things in?  I turned the machine off, plugged it 
in and restarted the machine.

It found my Funcube Pro Plus before, no problem.

Thanks!

73 Jim Allen W6OGC



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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-27 Thread Jim Allen
I have no idea.  It is a KUSB I just bought recently from Elecraft.

When I plugged it in, it wasn't recognized, new device found, etc.  I thought 
the driver would be there, like so many are, but no.

Is there a secret to plugging things in?  I turned the machine off, plugged it 
in and restarted the machine.  

It found my Funcube Pro Plus before, no problem.

Thanks!

73 Jim Allen W6OGC 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 27, 2016, at 18:44, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> All my WIN10 machines had no issue with drivers for FTDI devices. 
> Is yours an older Prolific KUSB?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Jim Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> What driver do I need for the KUSB device? I have a K2 and am connecting it 
>> to a W10 machine that has no internet connection.  Where would I get it?  
>> Can I put it on a thumb drive and copy it onto the W10 machine?  Where 
>> should it go on that device?
>> 
>> TIA.
>> 
>> 73 Jim Allen W6OGC 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

You can download the FTDI driver from 
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm.


Yes, you can put it on a thumb drive and install it on your Win10 
machine with no internet connection.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/27/2016 6:35 PM, Jim Allen wrote:

What driver do I need for the KUSB device? I have a K2 and am connecting it to 
a W10 machine that has no internet connection.  Where would I get it?  Can I 
put it on a thumb drive and copy it onto the W10 machine?  Where should it go 
on that device?


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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-27 Thread Nr4c
All my WIN10 machines had no issue with drivers for FTDI devices. 
Is yours an older Prolific KUSB?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Jim Allen  wrote:
> 
> What driver do I need for the KUSB device? I have a K2 and am connecting it 
> to a W10 machine that has no internet connection.  Where would I get it?  Can 
> I put it on a thumb drive and copy it onto the W10 machine?  Where should it 
> go on that device?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> 73 Jim Allen W6OGC 
> 
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[Elecraft] KUSB driver

2016-11-27 Thread Jim Allen
What driver do I need for the KUSB device? I have a K2 and am connecting it to 
a W10 machine that has no internet connection.  Where would I get it?  Can I 
put it on a thumb drive and copy it onto the W10 machine?  Where should it go 
on that device?

TIA.

73 Jim Allen W6OGC 

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[Elecraft] KUSB with FTDI chipset wanted

2015-11-04 Thread Greg
Anyone have a KUSB with the FTDI chipset that they would like to sell?
Please contact me off list at n...@arrl.net.  Thanks.  73, Greg
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 10 driver ?

2015-09-08 Thread Gary
Mine works fine.
Gary 

-Original Message-
From: "Jack Colson" 
Sent: ‎9/‎09/‎2015 4:05 AM
To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 10 driver ?

I have an original KUSB which uses the Prolific driver, what driver must I get 
for to be compatible with Windows 10?
73 and thank you,
Jack, W3TMZ
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[Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 10 driver ?

2015-09-08 Thread Jack Colson
I have an original KUSB which uses the Prolific driver, what driver must I get 
for to be compatible with Windows 10?
73 and thank you,
Jack, W3TMZ
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - Urgent

2014-10-26 Thread Phil Wheeler

Hi, Lisa --

I've been using the various Elecraft rigs and 
accessories (K3, KX3, P3, KPA500, KAT500) with a 
Windows 8.1 computer starting in March of this 
year. I believe I'm using only Elecraft-provided 
FTDI USB-RS232 converters (there may be one in the 
mix from Amazon, also FTDI) and I've had no 
problems running Windows 8.1 and interfacing with 
my Elecraft hardware at any time.


73, Phil W7OX

On 10/25/14 9:26 PM, Barry Simpson wrote:

Good afternoon (it's Sunday afternoon and 35 degrees C here)

Please see my email below - panic over !!

I trawled through the websites of various local computer and electronics
suppliers and found that Jaycar - a big Australian electronic parts
retailer with lots of branches - apparently had a USB to Serial convertor
that works with Windows 8 and 8.1.

So I just went and bought one and lo and behold it was absolutely plug and
play. The K3 and Windows 8.1 are playing happily together again.

Interestingly the convertor appears to have a Prolific chip as the Jaycar
website has a link (from the details of this particular item) to Prolific
where details of all the various Prolific chips are shown together with
their compatability with the various versions of Windows.

I am also forwarding this to the reflector in case any of my VK friends are
having similar problems.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On 25 October 2014 18:28, Barry Simpson  wrote:


Good afternoon

My Prolific KUSB has been working satisfactorily for years with various
computers up to and including Windows 7.

However, I have just bought a small Windows 8 laptop to take on holiday
for use with my K3 and the KUSB won't work with it.

I think that your new KUSB's with the FTDI chips do work with Windows 8.
If this is the case, how quickly can you ship one to me by the fastest air
mail possible as I am going on holiday in just over two weeks.

I await your urgent reply.

73

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ


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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - Urgent

2014-10-25 Thread Barry Simpson
Good afternoon (it's Sunday afternoon and 35 degrees C here)

Please see my email below - panic over !!

I trawled through the websites of various local computer and electronics
suppliers and found that Jaycar - a big Australian electronic parts
retailer with lots of branches - apparently had a USB to Serial convertor
that works with Windows 8 and 8.1.

So I just went and bought one and lo and behold it was absolutely plug and
play. The K3 and Windows 8.1 are playing happily together again.

Interestingly the convertor appears to have a Prolific chip as the Jaycar
website has a link (from the details of this particular item) to Prolific
where details of all the various Prolific chips are shown together with
their compatability with the various versions of Windows.

I am also forwarding this to the reflector in case any of my VK friends are
having similar problems.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On 25 October 2014 18:28, Barry Simpson  wrote:

> Good afternoon
>
> My Prolific KUSB has been working satisfactorily for years with various
> computers up to and including Windows 7.
>
> However, I have just bought a small Windows 8 laptop to take on holiday
> for use with my K3 and the KUSB won't work with it.
>
> I think that your new KUSB's with the FTDI chips do work with Windows 8.
> If this is the case, how quickly can you ship one to me by the fastest air
> mail possible as I am going on holiday in just over two weeks.
>
> I await your urgent reply.
>
> 73
>
> Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-03 Thread Rick Bates
The method that I use takes a few minutes.  You plug in the USB dongle then
via the device manager TELL the system what port to assign to it.  Then you
move the dongle to another USB port and do the same thing until all USB
ports have been used.  So no matter what port you plug that dongle into, the
same com port comes up for that device, every time.

You can do the same for any other USB serial dongle so the result is dongle
A always get com x and dongle b gets com y etc.

This method has worked well except for the multiport (4 port) dongle, but
eventually it settled down.

Tedious, but effective.

73,
Rick wa6nhc/6

-Original Message-
From: Joel Black

...And whatever you do, do NOT alternate amongst USB ports.  If you do, 
your COM ports will change.

Believe me, this comes from experience at work programming and using 
diag software on radios.  There is a way you can keep this from 
happening, I've never learned how to do it, I just plug into the same 
USB each time.

73,
Joel - KV4OY

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-03 Thread Joel Black
...And whatever you do, do NOT alternate amongst USB ports.  If you do, 
your COM ports will change.


Believe me, this comes from experience at work programming and using 
diag software on radios.  There is a way you can keep this from 
happening, I've never learned how to do it, I just plug into the same 
USB each time.


73,
Joel - KV4OY

On 8/2/13 9:51 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

The COM port won't show up until you physically plug the adapter in. Then it
might need access to drivers.  The Control Panel "Device Manager" applet
under COM & LPT ports should gain a port just after you plug the KUSB in,
and the port should go away as you remove the KUSB. That's how you can tell
what port is assigned.

GL!

Dick, K6KR


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 19:35 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

I need to use my wife's computer in the NAQP CW, mine is in the hospital for
a fan transplant.

How do I get XP to recognize the KUSB [mine is somewhat old, I think it's
Prolific].  I've downloaded both FTDI and Prolific drivers from Elecraft,
they seem to install, but I don't see any "Ports" in the device manager.

I can live with just one port to the radio, I'll key on the DTR/RTS lines
and skip the Winkey.  Just need to find a way to get Windoze to recognize
the port ... any port ... I can make N1MM go there.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-02 Thread Ted Bryant
Fred,

For the port to show up in Device Manager you have to have the device
(WinKey? K3?) plugged into the usb port.  Be sure to check the power options
for that usb port when you do identify it.  Disable any Windoze power down
options.

73, Ted W4NZ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:35 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

I need to use my wife's computer in the NAQP CW, mine is in the hospital for
a fan transplant.

How do I get XP to recognize the KUSB [mine is somewhat old, I think it's
Prolific].  I've downloaded both FTDI and Prolific drivers from Elecraft,
they seem to install, but I don't see any "Ports" in the device manager.

I can live with just one port to the radio, I'll key on the DTR/RTS lines
and skip the Winkey.  Just need to find a way to get Windoze to recognize
the port ... any port ... I can make N1MM go there.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-02 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The COM port won't show up until you physically plug the adapter in. Then it
might need access to drivers.  The Control Panel "Device Manager" applet
under COM & LPT ports should gain a port just after you plug the KUSB in,
and the port should go away as you remove the KUSB. That's how you can tell
what port is assigned.

GL!

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 19:35 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

I need to use my wife's computer in the NAQP CW, mine is in the hospital for
a fan transplant.

How do I get XP to recognize the KUSB [mine is somewhat old, I think it's
Prolific].  I've downloaded both FTDI and Prolific drivers from Elecraft,
they seem to install, but I don't see any "Ports" in the device manager.

I can live with just one port to the radio, I'll key on the DTR/RTS lines
and skip the Winkey.  Just need to find a way to get Windoze to recognize
the port ... any port ... I can make N1MM go there.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-02 Thread Richard Fjeld
I don't see mentioned if you have the KUSB plugged in when you are looking 
for the "ports".


Dick, n0ce


-Original Message- 
From: Fred Jensen

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:35 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

I need to use my wife's computer in the NAQP CW, mine is in the hospital
for a fan transplant.

How do I get XP to recognize the KUSB [mine is somewhat old, I think
it's Prolific].  I've downloaded both FTDI and Prolific drivers from
Elecraft, they seem to install, but I don't see any "Ports" in the
device manager.

I can live with just one port to the radio, I'll key on the DTR/RTS
lines and skip the Winkey.  Just need to find a way to get Windoze to
recognize the port ... any port ... I can make N1MM go there.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] KUSB - non radio question

2013-08-02 Thread Fred Jensen
I need to use my wife's computer in the NAQP CW, mine is in the hospital 
for a fan transplant.


How do I get XP to recognize the KUSB [mine is somewhat old, I think 
it's Prolific].  I've downloaded both FTDI and Prolific drivers from 
Elecraft, they seem to install, but I don't see any "Ports" in the 
device manager.


I can live with just one port to the radio, I'll key on the DTR/RTS 
lines and skip the Winkey.  Just need to find a way to get Windoze to 
recognize the port ... any port ... I can make N1MM go there.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] KUSB with FTDI Chipset for sale

2012-12-16 Thread Alan Price

This is a new KUSB, a spare that I don't need.  It has the FTDI Chipset.  For 
sale, delivered for $30.  Shipping is included. 73AlanW1HYV 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-14 Thread john petters
Thanks Mike.
Interesting article.
73
John


On 13/12/2012 22:52, Mike Harris wrote:
> A few years ago I was receiving noise from my PC on 6M, via the serial
> interface cable.  I was also receiving it when using the KUSB of the
> time with the Prolific chip-set.
> 
> I made a new serial cable using CAT-6 and the technique used in the
> "K9YC RFI-Ham.pdf" tutorial, page 38.
> 
> This significantly reduce the noise and interestingly when I placed it
> in series with the KUSB it had the same effect.  My new serial cable was
> about 3 metres long and I was going to make up a short version to see if
> it had the same effect.  Unfortunately I never did.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread Mike Harris
A few years ago I was receiving noise from my PC on 6M, via the serial 
interface cable.  I was also receiving it when using the KUSB of the 
time with the Prolific chip-set.


I made a new serial cable using CAT-6 and the technique used in the 
"K9YC RFI-Ham.pdf" tutorial, page 38.


This significantly reduce the noise and interestingly when I placed it 
in series with the KUSB it had the same effect.  My new serial cable was 
about 3 metres long and I was going to make up a short version to see if 
it had the same effect.  Unfortunately I never did.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread john petters
I've done that, Buck, still noisy. Many Thanks,
73,
John

On 13/12/2012 21:57, Buck - k4ia wrote:
> I have found that I must be sure to screw in (not just plug in)  the
> serial connector on the back of the K3.  If I don't, I will hear a
> pulsed rushing noise from the USB.
> 
> 
> Buck
> k4ia
> 
> On 12/13/2012 12:53 PM, Matthew Zilmer wrote:
>> USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive
>> noise, but instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter,
>> where the ferrite won't help.
>>
>> KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free. 
>> Its model  is HS19, I think.
>>
>> Matt Zilmer
>> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
>> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
>> Tel: (909) 394-6052
>> Cell: (909) 730-6552
>> In status quo voluntas non sufficit
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>> I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could
>> not get the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned
>> out to be a fault with the sound card, which took out the serial
>> connections.
>> When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter,
>> which radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the
>> bullet and buy the proper lead, which arrived today.
>>
>> Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points
>> of noise on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is
>> using my
>> 2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack,
>> i.e. near the laptop.
>>
>> On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the
>> flashing LEDs on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even
>> detect this when fed into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning
>> units are bonder to an RF earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away
>> from the K3.
>>
>> I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce
>> the noise to a degree.
>>
>> The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero
>> noise to be radiated from these adaptors?
>> Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?
>>
>> It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the
>> AM mode with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.
>>
>> Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when
>> connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.
>>
>> If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of
>> computer control.
>>
>> Any views appreciated,
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread Buck - k4ia
I have found that I must be sure to screw in (not just plug in)  the 
serial connector on the back of the K3.  If I don't, I will hear a 
pulsed rushing noise from the USB.



Buck
k4ia

On 12/13/2012 12:53 PM, Matthew Zilmer wrote:

USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive noise, but 
instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where the ferrite won't 
help.

KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free.  Its model 
 is HS19, I think.

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

Hi Folks,
I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not get the 
K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to be a fault with 
the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter, which 
radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the bullet and buy 
the proper lead, which arrived today.

Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of noise 
on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack, i.e. near 
the laptop.

On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing LEDs 
on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this when fed into 
a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are bonder to an RF earth - a 
copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.

I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce the 
noise to a degree.

The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise to be 
radiated from these adaptors?
Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?

It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the AM mode 
with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.

Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when 
connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.

If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of computer 
control.

Any views appreciated,

73




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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread john petters
Matt & Brian, thanks for the suggestions. This KUSB is the latest type,
I believe with the  FTDI chip set.. The old one I had was a Prolific
chip set - but not a KUSB.
I'll look up the HS19.
73
John

On 13/12/2012 18:10, Brian Moran wrote:
> You may try a different K-USB. I have a K-USB that radiated terrible
> noise on 160m. A different one, quiet.
> -Brian N9ADG
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Matthew Zilmer 
> *To:* john petters ;
> "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:53 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
> 
> USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive
> noise, but instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where
> the ferrite won't help.
> 
> KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free. 
> Its model  is HS19, I think.
> 
> Matt Zilmer
> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
> Tel: (909) 394-6052
> Cell: (909) 730-6552
> In status quo voluntas non sufficit
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of john petters
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
> 
> Hi Folks,
> I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not
> get the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to
> be a fault with the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
> When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter,
> which radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the
> bullet and buy the proper lead, which arrived today.
> 
> Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of
> noise on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
> 2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack,
> i.e. near the laptop.
> 
> On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing
> LEDs on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this
> when fed into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are
> bonder to an RF earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.
> 
> I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce
> the noise to a degree.
> 
> The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise
> to be radiated from these adaptors?
> Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?
> 
> It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the
> AM mode with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.
> 
> Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when
> connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.
> 
> If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of
> computer control.
> 
> Any views appreciated,
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread Scott Monks
    Try "disconnecting" the K3 from the program without touching anything 
else.  I recently discovered that if I "disconnect" my logging program (so it 
is not directly controlling my K3) it will reduce noise level on 15m, about 
half, making weak signals very readable.  When I opened the communication and 
control with the program the noise came back--noise or no as I activated or 
dis-activated the control function.  

    I am not experienced enough with this type of control to pinpoint the real 
source of the noise or yet how to control it, but it is there.


However, it is frustrating for me because now I can hear them but my signal is 
too weak to work them!!  hi, hi

Scott 




>
> From: Brian Moran 
>To: Matthew Zilmer ; john petters 
>; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
> 
>You may try a different K-USB. I have a K-USB that radiated terrible noise on 
>160m. A different one, quiet.
>-Brian N9ADG
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Matthew Zilmer 
>To: john petters ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:53 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
>
>USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive noise, 
>but instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where the ferrite 
>won't help.
>
>KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free.  Its 
>model  is HS19, I think.
>
>Matt Zilmer
>Consultant - Product Management Dept.
>Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
>Tel: (909) 394-6052
>Cell: (909) 730-6552
>In status quo voluntas non sufficit
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
>
>Hi Folks,
>I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not get 
>the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to be a fault 
>with the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
>When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter, which 
>radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the bullet and buy 
>the proper lead, which arrived today.
>
>Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of noise 
>on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
>2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack, i.e. near 
>the laptop.
>
>On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing LEDs 
>on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this when fed 
>into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are bonder to an RF 
>earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.
>
>I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce the 
>noise to a degree.
>
>The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise to be 
>radiated from these adaptors?
>Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?
>
>It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the AM mode 
>with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.
>
>Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when 
>connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.
>
>If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of computer 
>control.
>
>Any views appreciated,
>
>73
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread Brian Moran
You may try a different K-USB. I have a K-USB that radiated terrible noise on 
160m. A different one, quiet.
-Brian N9ADG





 From: Matthew Zilmer 
To: john petters ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
 
USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive noise, but 
instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where the ferrite won't 
help.

KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free.  Its 
model  is HS19, I think.

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
In status quo voluntas non sufficit


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

Hi Folks,
I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not get the 
K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to be a fault with 
the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter, which 
radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the bullet and buy 
the proper lead, which arrived today.

Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of noise 
on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack, i.e. near 
the laptop.

On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing LEDs 
on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this when fed into 
a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are bonder to an RF earth - a 
copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.

I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce the 
noise to a degree.

The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise to be 
radiated from these adaptors?
Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?

It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the AM mode 
with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.

Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when 
connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.

If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of computer 
control.

Any views appreciated,

73




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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew Zilmer
USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive noise, but 
instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where the ferrite won't 
help.

KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free.  Its model 
 is HS19, I think.

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
In status quo voluntas non sufficit


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

Hi Folks,
I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not get the 
K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to be a fault with 
the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter, which 
radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the bullet and buy 
the proper lead, which arrived today.

Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of noise 
on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack, i.e. near 
the laptop.

On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing LEDs 
on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this when fed into 
a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are bonder to an RF earth - a 
copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.

I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce the 
noise to a degree.

The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise to be 
radiated from these adaptors?
Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?

It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the AM mode 
with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.

Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when 
connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.

If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of computer 
control.

Any views appreciated,

73




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[Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

2012-12-13 Thread john petters
Hi Folks,
I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not
get the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to
be a fault with the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter,
which radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the
bullet and buy the proper lead, which arrived today.

Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of
noise on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack,
i.e. near the laptop.

On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing
LEDs on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this
when fed into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are
bonder to an RF earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.

I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce
the noise to a degree.

The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise
to be radiated from these adaptors?
Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?

It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the
AM mode with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.

Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when
connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.

If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of
computer control.

Any views appreciated,

73




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[Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 8

2012-11-18 Thread Jim Sens
I have a KUSB made right around the time the design switched from 
Prolific to FTDI.  It has a Prolific PL2303HXA chipset in the cable.  
This particular chipset is not compatible with Windows 8 as clearly 
stated by the OEM in their driver readme file.  The FTDI website doesn't 
say anything about Windows 8 for their VCP drivers. Is anyone running a 
K3 with a FTDI/KUSB cable from Windows 8?  73 de KX8C Jim
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[Elecraft] KUSB Cable

2012-10-20 Thread Tony McClenny
Somehow or other, yours truly ordered an extra one of these and as I only
need one, this one is available.  If anyone needs this cable, I have one for
sale for $20 including shipment to be sent to you in any of the 50 states
via U.S. Mail.  You will need to download the appropriate drivers as listed
on the Elecraft website.  

- Tony, N3ME -

118 Ashwood Street
Bethany Beach, DE 19930-9699
(302) 539-5638
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http://www.n3me.net
Elecraft K3 # 2462
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-25 Thread Adrian
Thanks for the verification on it actually being FTDI. You can control the
comport No assigned here[

COMPort_Assignment is a free utility that is used for assigning the COM Port
numbers of FTDI devices. It runs under Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7.
COMPort_Assignment utility is available for download as a .zip file by
clicking here.

http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Utilities/Reassign%20COMNo%20Utility.zip

Otherwise you can use device manager.

The win7(8) Prolific driver is  

 http://www.prolific.com.tw/US/ShowProduct.aspx?p_id=225&pcid=41


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012 10:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

I'm using Windows 7 on an HP p7-1210, N1MM logger 12.8.0 and a Star-Tech.com
ICUSB232 which I got from Amazon for a good price. The adapter has the FTDI
chipset and it worked first time. This was after trying for three days to
get a Radio Shack purchased adapter with the Prolific chipset to work. I
finally concluded that there were no drivers, Prolific or OEM that were
going to work with Win 7.

Brian, K0DTJ

On 9/24/2012 11:31 AM, Barry Pfeil wrote:
> If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7 
> and recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan 
> USA-19HS adapter (yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" 
> crashes on Windows 7.  All N1MM settings are the same as I use OK 
> under XP so I see the KUSB (different chipset) as a possible fix but 
> I'd like to hear it's actually working for somebody before I order one.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-25 Thread Gerald Manthey
Brian
Have you verified in the device manager that the comport settings are
right? Then under advanced settings assign it a comport #. If that is done,
and latest drivers, and "in my case" making sure the db9 was seated all the
way. It should work.
 On Sep 24, 2012 8:02 PM, "Brian Hunt"  wrote:

> Correction:  The correct StarTech part number is ICUSB2321F for the FTDI
> chipset.
>
> Sorry
>
> Brian, K0DTJ
> On 9/24/2012 5:54 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> > I'm using Windows 7 on an HP p7-1210, N1MM logger 12.8.0 and a
> > Star-Tech.com ICUSB232 which I got from Amazon for a good price. The
> > adapter has the FTDI chipset and it worked first time. This was after
> > trying for three days to get a Radio Shack purchased adapter with the
> > Prolific chipset to work. I finally concluded that there were no
> > drivers, Prolific or OEM that were going to work with Win 7.
> >
> > Brian, K0DTJ
> >
> > On 9/24/2012 11:31 AM, Barry Pfeil wrote:
> >> If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7
> and
> >> recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan USA-19HS
> >> adapter (yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" crashes on
> Windows
> >> 7.  All N1MM settings are the same as I use OK under XP so I see the
> KUSB
> >> (different chipset) as a possible fix but I'd like to hear it's actually
> >> working for somebody before I order one.
> >>
> >> Thanks & 73
> >> Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-24 Thread Brian Hunt
Correction:  The correct StarTech part number is ICUSB2321F for the FTDI 
chipset.

Sorry

Brian, K0DTJ
On 9/24/2012 5:54 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> I'm using Windows 7 on an HP p7-1210, N1MM logger 12.8.0 and a
> Star-Tech.com ICUSB232 which I got from Amazon for a good price. The
> adapter has the FTDI chipset and it worked first time. This was after
> trying for three days to get a Radio Shack purchased adapter with the
> Prolific chipset to work. I finally concluded that there were no
> drivers, Prolific or OEM that were going to work with Win 7.
>
> Brian, K0DTJ
>
> On 9/24/2012 11:31 AM, Barry Pfeil wrote:
>> If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7 and
>> recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan USA-19HS
>> adapter (yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" crashes on Windows
>> 7.  All N1MM settings are the same as I use OK under XP so I see the KUSB
>> (different chipset) as a possible fix but I'd like to hear it's actually
>> working for somebody before I order one.
>>
>> Thanks & 73
>> Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-24 Thread Brian Hunt
I'm using Windows 7 on an HP p7-1210, N1MM logger 12.8.0 and a 
Star-Tech.com ICUSB232 which I got from Amazon for a good price. The 
adapter has the FTDI chipset and it worked first time. This was after 
trying for three days to get a Radio Shack purchased adapter with the 
Prolific chipset to work. I finally concluded that there were no 
drivers, Prolific or OEM that were going to work with Win 7.

Brian, K0DTJ

On 9/24/2012 11:31 AM, Barry Pfeil wrote:
> If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7 and
> recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan USA-19HS
> adapter (yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" crashes on Windows
> 7.  All N1MM settings are the same as I use OK under XP so I see the KUSB
> (different chipset) as a possible fix but I'd like to hear it's actually
> working for somebody before I order one.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-24 Thread Adrian
You're using this correct driver in Win7?  ;

http://www.tripplite.com/shared/software/Driver/Driver%20for%20USA-19HS_v4%2
0(Windows%207%20and%208).zip

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Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7 and
recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan USA-19HS adapter
(yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" crashes on Windows 7.  All
N1MM settings are the same as I use OK under XP so I see the KUSB (different
chipset) as a possible fix but I'd like to hear it's actually working for
somebody before I order one.

Thanks & 73
Barry K6RM
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[Elecraft] KUSB users, please help.

2012-09-24 Thread Barry Pfeil
If you are using the Elecraft KUSB USB-serial converter with Windows 7 and
recent N1MM (12.9.1), please let me know.  Using my Keyspan USA-19HS
adapter (yes, latest drivers) I'm getting "blue screen" crashes on Windows
7.  All N1MM settings are the same as I use OK under XP so I see the KUSB
(different chipset) as a possible fix but I'd like to hear it's actually
working for somebody before I order one.

Thanks & 73
Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB with Windows7 and N1MM

2012-09-22 Thread Barry Pfeil
Thanks, Gerald.  Apparently the Keyspan uses a TI chipset and I did try
their latest drivers.  BTW, I have a K3 (connected via P3) on the serial
cable.
Barry K6RM

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Gerald Manthey  wrote:

> I had the damnest time getting my K2 and usb converter to work. Check all
> params baud rates, com port #'s and nothing. Blue screen of death is
> usually caused by a wrong chip set. Update drivers make sure you are using
> FTDI chip set. This is my advise, but more info needed such as rig, brand
> converter, etc.
> Don W3FPR is very knowledgeable on this.
> Hope it helps
> 73's Gerald
>  On Sep 22, 2012 9:41 AM, "Barry Pfeil"  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have experience with the subject combination?  I just tried
>> using a newly-purchased version of my trusty old Keyspan USA-19HS and it
>> crashes Windows 7 (blue screen) when I try to TX with F1.  Worked fine
>> with
>> XP.  I'll order KUSB if I get OK reports here.  TIA!
>> 73, Barry, K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB with Windows7 and N1MM

2012-09-22 Thread Gerald Manthey
I had the damnest time getting my K2 and usb converter to work. Check all
params baud rates, com port #'s and nothing. Blue screen of death is
usually caused by a wrong chip set. Update drivers make sure you are using
FTDI chip set. This is my advise, but more info needed such as rig, brand
converter, etc.
Don W3FPR is very knowledgeable on this.
Hope it helps
73's Gerald
 On Sep 22, 2012 9:41 AM, "Barry Pfeil"  wrote:

> Does anyone have experience with the subject combination?  I just tried
> using a newly-purchased version of my trusty old Keyspan USA-19HS and it
> crashes Windows 7 (blue screen) when I try to TX with F1.  Worked fine with
> XP.  I'll order KUSB if I get OK reports here.  TIA!
> 73, Barry, K6RM
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[Elecraft] KUSB with Windows7 and N1MM

2012-09-22 Thread Barry Pfeil
Does anyone have experience with the subject combination?  I just tried
using a newly-purchased version of my trusty old Keyspan USA-19HS and it
crashes Windows 7 (blue screen) when I try to TX with F1.  Worked fine with
XP.  I'll order KUSB if I get OK reports here.  TIA!
73, Barry, K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB and linux

2011-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
El 12/03/11 09:36, Pierfrancesco Caci escribió:
>
> Anyone with a KUSB using it with linux out there? Can you show me the
> output of 'sudo lsusb -v' please? I'm specifically interested to know if
> the iManufacturer, iProduct and iSerial fields are set to something
> useful.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pf, ik5pvx
>
>
>

Hi

I am using anohter brand of USB/serial adapter under Debian GNU/Linux, I 
do not know if  can help you.

73! Ramiro, EA4NZ

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[Elecraft] KUSB and linux

2011-03-12 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

Anyone with a KUSB using it with linux out there? Can you show me the
output of 'sudo lsusb -v' please? I'm specifically interested to know if 
the iManufacturer, iProduct and iSerial fields are set to something
useful. 

Thanks

Pf, ik5pvx



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KUSB

2011-02-08 Thread Ed Muns
I use the Edgeport-4 USB 4-port Serial adapter.  $29 used on eBay from
Nationwide Surplus.  It is a $300 commercial unit with current drivers for
all Windows OSs including Windows 7, which I use.  It is one of the few
adapters that handles RTTY flawlessly and uses a real UART.  I run the K3
rig control, two FSK interfaces and a DXP38 modem on the same 4-port
adapter.  No problems after several contests.

Ed - W0YK/4

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> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV
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> 
> 
> 
> Bill W4ZV wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using the
> > FTDI chipset)?
> >
> 
> 6' is the answer.  Another question...has anyone had problems with the
> Elecraft KUSB and XP?  I got one report of problems with Win7.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KUSB

2011-02-07 Thread Phil Hystad
Wow, a 74 bit computer.  I used to work on a 60 bit machine, the Control Data 
Corporation 6600 back in the 1960s.


On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:

> I use win7 74 bit with it and absolutely no problems.
> 
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> 
> Bill W4ZV wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using 
>> the FTDI chipset)?
>> 
> 
> 6' is the answer.  Another question...has anyone had problems with the
> Elecraft KUSB and XP?  I got one report of problems with Win7.
> 
> 73,  Bill
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KUSB

2011-02-07 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I use win7 74 bit with it and absolutely no problems.

Bill
K9YEQ

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Bill W4ZV wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using 
> the FTDI chipset)?
> 

6' is the answer.  Another question...has anyone had problems with the
Elecraft KUSB and XP?  I got one report of problems with Win7.

73,  Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KUSB

2011-02-07 Thread Bill W4ZV


Bill W4ZV wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using the
> FTDI chipset)?
> 

6' is the answer.  Another question...has anyone had problems with the
Elecraft KUSB and XP?  I got one report of problems with Win7.

73,  Bill

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[Elecraft] Elecraft KUSB

2011-02-07 Thread Bill W4ZV

Does anyone know the cable length of the most recent adapter (using the FTDI
chipset)?

73,  Bill
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[Elecraft] KUSB Hibernate "disable"

2010-10-12 Thread wp4cw
NO9E wrote, " Unfortunately they do not come back from hibernation like KUSB 
does."

You can tell a used root hub not to disable. Go to manage devices, find the usb 
device, control power management.
Ted 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-09 Thread Dick Dievendorff
There is information in K3 Utility Help under "Troubleshooting" for USB
adapters that describes how to use the Windows Device Manager to determine
the device driver versions. The Windows Device Manager display of the device
driver version will also show you the chipset vendor, if you wonder who
makes the chip set used in the USB to Serial Adapter you're using.

My understanding is that the diskette included with the KUSB (FTDI version)
works fine, and that Microsoft or Windows Update will update the FTDI-based
device drivers.  You might have to use the "Custom" button on Microsoft
Update to have it examine device drivers versions.

Dick, K6KR


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Guy, K2AV wrote:
> 
> Probably because some will need to get updated Prolific drivers.  It
> would be good if the webpage had links to BOTH, and explained how to
> determine which USB cable you had, so you knew which link to use.  It
> would also be good to list the date that Elecraft started shipping the
> new version.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-09 Thread Stan Gibbs


Guy, K2AV wrote:
> 
> Probably because some will need to get updated Prolific drivers.  It
> would be good if the webpage had links to BOTH, and explained how to
> determine which USB cable you had, so you knew which link to use.  It
> would also be good to list the date that Elecraft started shipping the
> new version.
> 

Good points, Guy.

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-09 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Probably because some will need to get updated Prolific drivers.  It
would be good if the webpage had links to BOTH, and explained how to
determine which USB cable you had, so you knew which link to use.  It
would also be good to list the date that Elecraft started shipping the
new version.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Stan Gibbs  wrote:
>
>
> Eric Swartz  WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
>>
>> All KUSB usb to serial adapters currently sold by Elecraft use the FTDI
>> chipset. this is noted directly on the KUSB order line on our order page.
>>
>
> Yes, but what's a bit confusing is that the link to the USB drivers on the
> K3 software page still tries to download a Prolific driver install package.
>
> The drivers that came with my KUSB (FTDI) seem to work just fine on Vista.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-09 Thread Stan Gibbs


Eric Swartz  WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
> 
> All KUSB usb to serial adapters currently sold by Elecraft use the FTDI
> chipset. this is noted directly on the KUSB order line on our order page.
> 

Yes, but what's a bit confusing is that the link to the USB drivers on the
K3 software page still tries to download a Prolific driver install package.

The drivers that came with my KUSB (FTDI) seem to work just fine on Vista.



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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-08 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
All KUSB usb to serial adapters currently sold by Elecraft use the FTDI 
chipset. this is noted directly on the KUSB order line on our order page.

73,
Eric

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On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Mike  wrote:

>  I don't think Elecraft produces the cable.
> 
> FTDI available at
> 
> http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Serial.html
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> On 9/7/2010 9:59 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>> I think I read somewhere that Elecraft had switched KUSB production to one
>> based on FTDI. I'm having fits on Win7-64 keeping my notebook stable with
>> the Prolific based KUSB.
>> 
>> I couldn't find any mention of an FTDI based device on the Elecraft site.
>> The driver for download there is still the v1.1 of the Prolific one dated
>> 12/09. That one locked up for me fairly often. I tried the v1.3 from the
>> Prolific.tw site and it isn't any better.
>> 
>> Suggestions?
>> 
>> tia and 73
>> 
>> jim 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-08 Thread Stan Gibbs


Jim AB3CV wrote:
> 
> I think I read somewhere that Elecraft had switched KUSB production to one
> based on FTDI. I'm having fits on Win7-64 keeping my notebook stable with
> the Prolific based KUSB.
> 
> I couldn't find any mention of an FTDI based device on the Elecraft site.
> The driver for download there is still the v1.1 of the Prolific one dated
> 12/09. That one locked up for me fairly often. I tried the v1.3 from the
> Prolific.tw site and it isn't any better.
> 

Elecraft has switched to an FTDI-based version of the adapter. I ordered one
recently after confirming that fact with Support. It works like a charm on
Vista and, given the experience of others, would likely solve your issues on
Win7. The new adapter replaced a Prolific-based adapter from Elecraft that
was, basically, unusable with anything but the K3 Utility.

The web site hasn't been updated to reflect the change to FTDI yet. 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-08 Thread Mike
  I don't think Elecraft produces the cable.

FTDI available at

http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Serial.html

73, Mike NF4L

On 9/7/2010 9:59 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> I think I read somewhere that Elecraft had switched KUSB production to one
> based on FTDI. I'm having fits on Win7-64 keeping my notebook stable with
> the Prolific based KUSB.
>
> I couldn't find any mention of an FTDI based device on the Elecraft site.
> The driver for download there is still the v1.1 of the Prolific one dated
> 12/09. That one locked up for me fairly often. I tried the v1.3 from the
> Prolific.tw site and it isn't any better.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> tia and 73
>
> jim ab3cv
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[Elecraft] KUSB(Prolific) and Win7 Problems

2010-09-07 Thread Jim Miller
I think I read somewhere that Elecraft had switched KUSB production to one
based on FTDI. I'm having fits on Win7-64 keeping my notebook stable with
the Prolific based KUSB.

I couldn't find any mention of an FTDI based device on the Elecraft site.
The driver for download there is still the v1.1 of the Prolific one dated
12/09. That one locked up for me fairly often. I tried the v1.3 from the
Prolific.tw site and it isn't any better.

Suggestions?

tia and 73

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB

2010-04-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Been right down that road. I have the KUSB.

Prolific has a 4/12/2010 dated installer.zip at

  
http://www.prolific.com.tw/support/files/%5CIO%20Cable%5CPL-2303%5CDrivers%20-%20Generic%5CWindows%5Callinone%5CPL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v1210.zip

Prolific drivers for Windows7/64 have been problematic, but the
version prior to this one finally worked for me on Win7/64.  Frankly,
Win7/64 has been cranky to get going on peripherals, though I seem to
have everything working now.  There is a huge collection of fairly
recent threads on this in the archives.

73, Guy.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Peter Chamalian  wrote:
> I've just upgraded to a new computer with no serial ports so I need to be
> able to update the firmware in my K3.  I know the KUSB is available and from
> what I read, it's a usb to serial cable to enable direct communication
> between computer and radio.
>
>
>
> I'm running Windows 7, 64-bit computer.
>
>
>
> Has anyone run into problems with a KUSB and windows 7?  Any suggested
> alternatives?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
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[Elecraft] KUSB

2010-04-20 Thread Peter Chamalian
I've just upgraded to a new computer with no serial ports so I need to be
able to update the firmware in my K3.  I know the KUSB is available and from
what I read, it's a usb to serial cable to enable direct communication
between computer and radio.

 

I'm running Windows 7, 64-bit computer.

 

Has anyone run into problems with a KUSB and windows 7?  Any suggested
alternatives?

 

Thanks!

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative [Thread ending]

2009-11-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's wind this thread down today. We've passed the max post qty 
threshold ;-)

73,Eric   WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Phil Hystad wrote:
> 
> But, I think the comment below, if I understand the point being made, is
> that a 
> problem with USB is in emulating a serial port on a computer or a serial
> device.
> 
> I agree with that, I think that the day that USB stops trying to emulate
> some old
> technology we would all be better off.  I am not against RS-232 or serial
> interfaces
> but I am ready to do something different.
> 
> I think that USB opens up a lot of new ways that rig control and
> interfacing can be
> implemented that might make software applications more powerful and easier
> to
> implement.  
> 
> ...
> 
> Rather then using USB to emulate a serial command infrastructure, what
> about using
> USB to interface to a memory based infrastructure.  Sure it would be more
> sophisticated
> on the ham radio rig side of things but it certainly can be done.
> 
> 

Yes, you understand correctly, Phil, and you make valid points. I understand
the argument of those who suggested that if the K3 was made with a USB
interface this would eliminate these problems. But perhaps they are only
concerned with using their K3 with a Windows PC now, which of course is the
only viewpoint many computer users have.

I also stand by the point I made earlier, that if the K3 had a USB
interface, Elecraft would have to develop drivers for each of the major
operating systems, or else decide to support only Windows as Icom has done.
Your long term use of the radio would then depend on the continued
availability of drivers for new versions of operating systems in the future,
not to mention the continued availability of USB ports.

USB is here today but it could be gone tomorrow. It's here because it meets
a need, but there is no guarantee that it will not have been replaced by
something faster and completely different in ten years time. It exists to
meet the need of consumer computer peripherals manufacturers, who see their
product life cycles in terms of just a few years. They benefit from such
built-in obsolescence, but many people I know are unhappy about throwing
away working equipment because it is not supported by their new computer,
and that's when it's a $100 printer not a $3500 radio.

I know people who still use radios that are 30 years old or more, and I
think most K3s would have a similar life. So regardless of the superior
technical interface methods that would be possible if Elecraft had chosen a
USB interface I think they made the right decision by sticking with RS232.
Because although serial ports may have gone from personal computers they are
NOT obsolete and are still widely used in industry, and are more likely
still to be used for the life of the K3 than USB ports will be.

Rather than suggesting, as one person did, that people should dump their old
PCs and buy a cheap netbook with USB capability one might humbly suggest
that people should forget about using laptops for their shack computer and
buy a cheap desktop with PCI slots capable of installing a real RS232 port
in it for reliable radio control. The K3 is not a cheap consumer computer
peripheral so why should we expect to plug it in and use it like one?

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Phil Hystad
Interesting comments...

I have never had any problems with any USB device over the years.  I might add 
that 
I have only used two devices with my ham radio gear and they are both microHam 
products which Joe knows all about.  Other USB devices I have used have always
been designed for the various computer devices or interfaces I have dealt with 
so
maybe they do not count in this discussion.

But, I think the comment below, if I understand the point being made, is that a 
problem with USB is in emulating a serial port on a computer or a serial device.

I agree with that, I think that the day that USB stops trying to emulate some 
old
technology we would all be better off.  I am not against RS-232 or serial 
interfaces
but I am ready to do something different.

I think that USB opens up a lot of new ways that rig control and interfacing 
can be
implemented that might make software applications more powerful and easier to
implement.  For example, most, if not all of the rig interfaces are command 
based
in that you send the device a command and sometimes this returns data and other
times it just returns an acknowledgment.

But, there are much nicer interfaces that can be implemented too.  For example, 
the
memory mapped approach might have a lot of advantages.  This follows from the 
way that computer devices would interface to the various bus structures by using
hardware mapped memory addresses.  That is, writing to a memory location and
by that setting a bit in some word was equivalent to sending a command to some
I/O device.  Or, reading a memory location was the same as reading a hardware
register physically part of some device control unit.

The LINUX operating system took the old Unix /dev/kmem type device access for
reading and writing memory and extended it to full process control using the 
mapped proc memory space.

Rather then using USB to emulate a serial command infrastructure, what about 
using
USB to interface to a memory based infrastructure.  Sure it would be more 
sophisticated
on the ham radio rig side of things but it certainly can be done.

phil, K7PEH


On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> USB is good technology and it only needs a few little 
>>> improvements in future revisions to specifications.
>> 
>> With its plug and play features, USB is very handy for consumer 
>> toys and games but it is severely lacking in many other ways. 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Joe is absolutely right here. A serial port is a hardware device with well
> documented properties and its own dedicated interrupt that could get the
> operating system's attention the instant it needed it. The problem is that
> USB provides an imperfect emulation of a serial port that does not work with
> all software.
> 
> With most of the uses USB is put to the device is designed to work with USB
> right from the start so the driver writers don't have to try to emulate a
> dedicated piece of hardware. That makes it easier to ensure that things
> always work as expected. Even so it was not all that long ago when many USB
> devices did not work with certain USB chipsets. VIA chipsets were notorious
> for problems.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
> 
> 
>> USB is good technology and it only needs a few little 
>> improvements in future revisions to specifications.
> 
> With its plug and play features, USB is very handy for consumer 
> toys and games but it is severely lacking in many other ways. 
> 
> 

Joe is absolutely right here. A serial port is a hardware device with well
documented properties and its own dedicated interrupt that could get the
operating system's attention the instant it needed it. The problem is that
USB provides an imperfect emulation of a serial port that does not work with
all software.

With most of the uses USB is put to the device is designed to work with USB
right from the start so the driver writers don't have to try to emulate a
dedicated piece of hardware. That makes it easier to ensure that things
always work as expected. Even so it was not all that long ago when many USB
devices did not work with certain USB chipsets. VIA chipsets were notorious
for problems.

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[Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Matt Zilmer
I've been experimenting with a serial server that resides on the LAN
here:
http://www.serialgear.com/Ethernet-Serial-Servers-NETCOM-411.html.
It's a 4-port and can handle any baud rate needed.

I've had no problems with the server, but it's not as fast as the KUSB
even with the cascaded hubs here.  A full (all boxes checked) upload
takes about 20% more time on the serial server over the KUSB's load
time.

There is also the ES1A from B&B Electronics.   This single port
Ethernet to serial adapter is very slow on program loads, but works
fine for other tasks (HRD, Digipan, WSJT, etc).

Note: Using shielded Ethernet CAT6 cabling here.  Recommended around
the K3 sensitive ears.

2nd Note:  If you poke a hole in the blocked incoming ports on your
router and alias the hole to the LAN IP address associated with the
K3's port, you can operate the K3 remotely.  More audio equipment and
finagling is required, and I haven't tackled this yet - but I've
talked to a few guys that have and they love it.

73,
matt W6NIA
K3 #24

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> USB is good technology and it only needs a few little 
> improvements in future revisions to specifications.  And, if 
> vendors always support backward compatibility on USB then we 
> are in fat-city.

USB is another example of technology ignoring marginal applications. 

1) There is, to my knowledge, no currently available USB chipset 
   that supports standard data rates below 300 bps (thus no baudot). 

2) USB chipsets and the USB bus itself operate at much higher clock 
   and data rates than the UART/serial ports they replace with 
   results in a much larger problem with radiated RFI. 

3) Typical USB cables are much more "cheaply made" than a quality 
   RS-232 cable and are more prone to failure.  The failure often 
   appears as an open shield with greatly increased noise.  

4) USB port "power management" is often unreliable, particularly 
   if the USB device is used with a DLL driver instead of an 
   "USB Converter" driver.  This results in the spontaneous, 
   random "loss" of connectivity. 
 
5) all devices connected to a single USB "root hub" operate in 
   a polled, time shared basis.  The time slotting makes accurate 
   real time events (e.g., bit flipped CW) even more difficult. 

With its plug and play features, USB is very handy for consumer 
toys and games but it is severely lacking in many other ways. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative
> 
> 
> "...never a USB problem again!"
> 
> Actually, I don't think there are USB problems.  USB is a 
> very good standard that supports a large variety of devices 
> and configurations.  The specification allows for simple 
> point-to-point interface as well as hub/hosting, device 
> sharing, and a number of other useful things.
> 
> However, there is a problem in how interfaces to a computer 
> have evolved and the problem seems to always be associated 
> with dealing with old antiquated technology while being faced 
> with new standards and new capability.  For example, when PCs 
> were first introduced, the parallel port seemed to be the 
> ubiquitous interface medium.  If you have some custom device 
> that needed to talk to the computer, the parallel port was 
> the way to go since it was incredibly simple -- merely 
> asserting voltages on different lines for the most part.
> 
> Next, the serial port became popular because the UART 
> technology started becoming a commodity and available to a 
> lot of different hardware vendors.
> 
> But, the parallel port held on long after the serial port 
> showed superior (in many ways) connectivity.  There was a 
> time not long ago when there was a parallel and serial port 
> discussions not unlike this KUSB discussion.
> 
> In my opinion, since the serial port became so popular that 
> it stayed around much longer then it should have.  Computer 
> vendors would have probably done justice to this movement by 
> removing support of the serial port much earlier then now is 
> happening.  I see it as a good thing that now a serial port 
> is often only offered as an option on some computers and not 
> available at all on others.
> 
> USB is good technology and it only needs a few little 
> improvements in future revisions to specifications.  And, if 
> vendors always support backward compatibility on USB then we 
> are in fat-city.
> 
> OK, off my soap box.
> phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
> On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:28 AM, k7hbg @dslextreme.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi Everybody;
> > As the KUSB discussion thread continues on, I'd like to suggest an 
> > alternative. All motherboards, except 40 year old ones, 
> sport a PCIE 
> > port or two. There exists a whole
> > bunch of converter cards that ride the PCIe bus and convert 
> to serial ports,
> > parallel ports, printer ports
> > and most any other data transfer protocol.
> > A good example of this can be found at Tigerdirect.com. A 
> PCIe bus to
> > printer port with two com ports adapter
> > card for $39.95. What a deal! And never a USB problem again!
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread Phil Hystad
"...never a USB problem again!"

Actually, I don't think there are USB problems.  USB is a very good standard 
that supports a large variety of devices and configurations.  The specification 
allows for simple point-to-point interface as well as hub/hosting, device 
sharing, and a number of other useful things.

However, there is a problem in how interfaces to a computer have evolved and 
the problem seems to always be associated with dealing with old antiquated 
technology while being faced with new standards and new capability.  For 
example, when PCs were first introduced, the parallel port seemed to be the 
ubiquitous interface medium.  If you have some custom device that needed to 
talk to the computer, the parallel port was the way to go since it was 
incredibly simple -- merely asserting voltages on different lines for the most 
part.

Next, the serial port became popular because the UART technology started 
becoming a commodity and available to a lot of different hardware vendors.

But, the parallel port held on long after the serial port showed superior (in 
many ways) connectivity.  There was a time not long ago when there was a 
parallel and serial port discussions not unlike this KUSB discussion.

In my opinion, since the serial port became so popular that it stayed around 
much longer then it should have.  Computer vendors would have probably done 
justice to this movement by removing support of the serial port much earlier 
then now is happening.  I see it as a good thing that now a serial port is 
often only offered as an option on some computers and not available at all on 
others.

USB is good technology and it only needs a few little improvements in future 
revisions to specifications.  And, if vendors always support backward 
compatibility on USB then we are in fat-city.

OK, off my soap box.
phil, K7PEH


On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:28 AM, k7hbg @dslextreme.com wrote:

> Hi Everybody;
> As the KUSB discussion thread continues on, I'd like to suggest an
> alternative.
> All motherboards, except 40 year old ones, sport a PCIE port or two. There
> exists a whole
> bunch of converter cards that ride the PCIe bus and convert to serial ports,
> parallel ports, printer ports
> and most any other data transfer protocol.
> A good example of this can be found at Tigerdirect.com. A PCIe bus to
> printer port with two com ports adapter
> card for $39.95. What a deal! And never a USB problem again!
> 73's Bob, K7HBG
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[Elecraft] KUSB Adapter Alternative

2009-11-22 Thread k7hbg @dslextreme.com
Hi Everybody;
 As the KUSB discussion thread continues on, I'd like to suggest an
alternative.
All motherboards, except 40 year old ones, sport a PCIE port or two. There
exists a whole
bunch of converter cards that ride the PCIe bus and convert to serial ports,
parallel ports, printer ports
and most any other data transfer protocol.
 A good example of this can be found at Tigerdirect.com. A PCIe bus to
printer port with two com ports adapter
card for $39.95. What a deal! And never a USB problem again!
73's Bob, K7HBG
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread Lars Midtboe


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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread Lars Midtboe

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread juergen piezo
Its pointless discussing hardware design changes for  the K3, the K3's design 
is carved in rock. It would probably be a good design  consideration for the 
K4, or K5. We are unlikely to  see different models of Elecraft products roll 
out like the Japanese roll out new radio models. I just noticed that Yaesu has 
a new radio called the  FT5000, it looks like a FT2000 and it probably has the 
same crap receiver. Its ergonomics look good though.

John






--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Ross Primrose  wrote:

> From: Ross Primrose 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor
> To: 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:07 PM
> David Fleming wrote:
> > But, like Julian said, is there any advantage to using
> a plain USB cable instead a USB cable with a bulge on the
> end? :-)
> >
> >   
> There could be, if Elecraft supported it. USB 2.0 has
> enough bandwidth 
> to support a software band scope...
> 
> 73, Ross N4RP
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread Ross Primrose
David Fleming wrote:
> But, like Julian said, is there any advantage to using a plain USB cable 
> instead a USB cable with a bulge on the end? :-)
>
>   
There could be, if Elecraft supported it. USB 2.0 has enough bandwidth 
to support a software band scope...

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread David Fleming
The USB to Serial chipset could be built onto the KIO3. Then the K3 itself 
would be the USB/Serial adapter. The manufacturer of the chipset would provide 
the drivers. The FTDI chip would be a good choice. The FTDI drivers seem to 
work well on OS X and Windows. Not sure about Linux. But, like Julian said, is 
there any advantage to using a plain USB cable instead a USB cable with a bulge 
on the end? :-)

David, W4SMT

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Julian, G4ILO  wrote:

> From: Julian, G4ILO 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:40 PM
> 
> 
> 
> David Y. wrote:
> > 
> > I'm really a complete neophyte at this sort of stuff,
> but isn't it mainly
> > a 
> > matter of having the correct "drivers"?  If a
> device isn't recognized when 
> > using a new operating system, it's usually just a
> matter of getting new 
> > drivers.  Unfortunately, some manufacturers
> abandon older products, and 
> > don't provide updated drivers for new systems. 
> Hopefully, if Elecraft did 
> > go to a USB alternative, they would still keep up with
> the driver 
> > requirement as new operating systems became
> available.
> > 
> Yes, but someone has to write those drivers. Icom has
> adopted a USB
> interface for the IC7600 but it has only provided drivers
> for Windows, and
> Icom arguably has greater resources at its disposal for
> writing drivers than
> Elecraft. Because Elecraft chose RS232, it has been
> relatively simple for
> them to support all the major operating systems Windows,
> Linux and Mac OS X,
> something I think no other manufacturer does.
> 
> I also doubt that Icom will be interested in writing new
> drivers for the
> '7600 once that model is obsolete. "Hopefully" they would,
> but that isn't a
> gamble I'm be willing to take. True, Elecraft isn't Icom.
> Then again, in 10
> years time Wayne and Eric may have retired to Florida so
> who knows what
> would happen?
> 
> You need a cable of some sort to connect the K3 to the
> computer, whatever
> interface is used. What difference does it make if the
> cable for USB ports
> has a bulge at one end?
> 
> A serial interface is the safest long-term bet that offers
> users the most
> choices. You could even remote control a K3 without a
> computer at the remote
> end using an Ethernet serial device.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread Julian, G4ILO



David Y. wrote:
> 
> I'm really a complete neophyte at this sort of stuff, but isn't it mainly
> a 
> matter of having the correct "drivers"?  If a device isn't recognized when 
> using a new operating system, it's usually just a matter of getting new 
> drivers.  Unfortunately, some manufacturers abandon older products, and 
> don't provide updated drivers for new systems.  Hopefully, if Elecraft did 
> go to a USB alternative, they would still keep up with the driver 
> requirement as new operating systems became available.
> 
Yes, but someone has to write those drivers. Icom has adopted a USB
interface for the IC7600 but it has only provided drivers for Windows, and
Icom arguably has greater resources at its disposal for writing drivers than
Elecraft. Because Elecraft chose RS232, it has been relatively simple for
them to support all the major operating systems Windows, Linux and Mac OS X,
something I think no other manufacturer does.

I also doubt that Icom will be interested in writing new drivers for the
'7600 once that model is obsolete. "Hopefully" they would, but that isn't a
gamble I'm be willing to take. True, Elecraft isn't Icom. Then again, in 10
years time Wayne and Eric may have retired to Florida so who knows what
would happen?

You need a cable of some sort to connect the K3 to the computer, whatever
interface is used. What difference does it make if the cable for USB ports
has a bulge at one end?

A serial interface is the safest long-term bet that offers users the most
choices. You could even remote control a K3 without a computer at the remote
end using an Ethernet serial device.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread David Y.
I'm really a complete neophyte at this sort of stuff, but isn't it mainly a 
matter of having the correct "drivers"?  If a device isn't recognized when 
using a new operating system, it's usually just a matter of getting new 
drivers.  Unfortunately, some manufacturers abandon older products, and 
don't provide updated drivers for new systems.  Hopefully, if Elecraft did 
go to a USB alternative, they would still keep up with the driver 
requirement as new operating systems became available.

I'm sure this isn't as simple as I may have made it sound though.  I'm 
thinking particularly of back when I bought one of Icom's PCR-1000's.  It 
came out when we were still using Windows 95.  Once 98, and later XP, came 
out, lots of folks had big problems running their PCR-1000's, and Icom just 
ignored the problem.  Fortunately, some alternative software became 
available, which did work, and later Icom did provide newer software on 
their website.

I think what Wayne was referring to primarily is that some folks out there 
are still using old computers that don't even have USB capability.  I must 
say though, with the very low price that "netbooks" cost these days, I think 
it's pretty darn easy, and cheap, to upgrade.  I've seen some pretty 
sophisticated models, albeit ones that have been replaced by a new model 
perhaps, for sale for under $200.  Now that Windows 7 is out, a lot of older 
models with XP are selling for a bargain.  I don't think it has ever been 
cheaper to step up to some really capable computing power, and still have 
something that you can very easily throw in a briefcase.  Just about all of 
them have built-in WiFi, and most have good sized hard drives.  The one 
downside is you probably won't have an optical drive included, but those are 
available as a USB outboard device for under $75.  I use mine 90% of the 
time, even though I have a bigger dual core job available.

Anyway, I'm enjoying the discussion, and maybe I'll learn something about 
the quirks of USB and serial adapters as this continues.  Computers and ham 
radio are so very closely linked together these days, and I only see that 
getting more so.  Maybe there are other good reasons for avoiding direct USB 
interface capability, but I'm of the opinion that needing to spend a couple 
hundred bucks to upgrade a computer system isn't that good a reason--not 
when we spend that much, and a lot more, on all sorts of accessories that 
may not have as much impact on overall operating capability.  I say it's 
time to retire those old Windows 95 and 98 machines to the same place we put 
our rotary dial telephones!

Dave W7AQK


----- Original Message - 
From: "Julian, G4ILO" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor


>
>
>
> Phil Hystad wrote:
>>
>> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in 
>> USB
>> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that
>> there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's"
>> computer technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the
>> other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all
>> Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop).
>>
>>
> No, no please no! USB is an abomination. And making the K3 a USB device
> would tie the K3 into whatever operating system supported the drivers and
> build in obsolescence when Microsoft makes a new version of Windows that
> once again doesn't support old drivers. Ever thrown away a perfectly good
> printer or scanner because it no longer worked under XP or Vista? I would
> not want to take that risk with a radio, which typically has a much longer
> life than computer peripherals.
>
> The suggestion to use Ethernet is better. But Ethernet is probably even
> noisier than USB. I have to downgrade my shack computer to run at 10Mb/s
> because at 100Mb/s the Ethernet adapter radiates several loud and annoying
> signals.
>
> Even in 50 years time people will still be using RS232 interfaces and 
> there
> will be adapters to connect them to whatever kind of interface the 
> computers
> of the day are using.
>
> -
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-21 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Phil Hystad wrote:
> 
> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB
> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that
> there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's"
> computer technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the
> other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all
> Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop).
> 
> 
No, no please no! USB is an abomination. And making the K3 a USB device
would tie the K3 into whatever operating system supported the drivers and
build in obsolescence when Microsoft makes a new version of Windows that
once again doesn't support old drivers. Ever thrown away a perfectly good
printer or scanner because it no longer worked under XP or Vista? I would
not want to take that risk with a radio, which typically has a much longer
life than computer peripherals.

The suggestion to use Ethernet is better. But Ethernet is probably even
noisier than USB. I have to downgrade my shack computer to run at 10Mb/s
because at 100Mb/s the Ethernet adapter radiates several loud and annoying
signals.

Even in 50 years time people will still be using RS232 interfaces and there
will be adapters to connect them to whatever kind of interface the computers
of the day are using.

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread William Evans

On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:53 PM, S Sacco wrote:

May as well wait for USB 3.0...


 Or go straight to ethernet (notwithstanding the RF garbage generated from 
bad ethernet design and shielding)

Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread S Sacco
May as well wait for USB 3.0...



On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Bob Maser wrote:
>
> > Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on
> > the back
> > of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a
> > kit that
> > would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room
> > for 2 USB
> > ports or mini ports.
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Many ham stations incorporate legacy computers and interfaces that use
> RS232. We didn't want to create havoc by forcing everyone to upgrade.
> OTOH, it's easy to convert RS232 to USB.
>
> That said, we hope to offer a USB version of the K3's digital I/O card
> sometime in the future. Nothing in the works yet.
>
> tnx
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Bill Johnson

I know from my work and personal experience that some USB devices can fail 
without being electro mechanically obvious.  I recently had a new printer fail 
after working for 30 + days.  I couldn't figure out why a couple of USB ports 
on the PC weren't working, it was just built, new MB and processor etc.  I 
thought the board had gone bad and the case had one bad front panel port as 
well.  Finally after being unable to fix by reinstalling drivers and 
troubleshooting through the system devices, all USB devices were removed and 
then I began plugging in each USB device, starting with the mouse and checking 
each one.  When I got to the new and I thought working printer, voila!  Issue 
discovered..,. it was the new printer.  Now my serial to USB converters are 
working.  

 

I hope this brief description of what happened to me will help someone else.

 

I use a Kusb and an older, I don't what you call it brand.  Both amazingly use 
the same driver, but their interface software is different.  This would mean 
their chips are the same most likely even though they are different USB 
adapters.

 
Bill
K9YEQ
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> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:39:56 -0700
> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor
> 
> I suspect many of us have had a USB adapter that didn't seem to cooperate at 
> one time or the other. I have one that doesn't seem to work on anything! 
> It's a Targus. I also have a Belkin that seems to work on everything! So, 
> go figure! I think the gentleman was right about the BIOS being the 
> culprit.
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread David Y.
I suspect many of us have had a USB adapter that didn't seem to cooperate at 
one time or the other.  I have one that doesn't seem to work on anything! 
It's a Targus.  I also have a Belkin that seems to work on everything!  So, 
go figure!  I think the gentleman was right about the BIOS being the 
culprit.

Dave W7AQK


- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Hystad" 
To: "Bob Maser" 
Cc: "Elecraft" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor


> Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option.  I actually thought it was 
> a "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB 
> connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed 
> configuration.  This is because I have a number of such serial to USB 
> cables and certainly I would find one that would work.
>
> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB 
> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that 
> there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" 
> computer technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the 
> other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all 
> Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop).
>
> phil, K7PEH
>
> P.S.  I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas.  I won't have the 
> time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote:
>
>> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the 
>> back
>> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a kit 
>> that
>> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 
>> USB
>> ports or mini ports.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Bob Cunnings
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Matt Palmer  wrote:
> inside the radio Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers
> alone is herculean.

Not if you use the FTDI parts. *They* write the system driver, and
supply a complete driver package for 32 and 64 bit Windows. All the
application programmer needs to do is interface with it via an easy to
use .dll. The latest driver packages from FTDI are even signed. Here
at work I've used FTDI parts to embed a USB device ports in our
gadgets (including UHF radio receivers) for years now without any
heartburn. FTDI will even allow you to customize the driver package
(to "brand" the USB driver with your own company name and tailor it to
your company's own USB vendor and product IDs) and get it re-signed by
Windows Hardware Quality Labs (Winqual) under the "DUA" program. I did
this for our latest product family and it only required an expenditure
of 99 bucks for a Verisign Organizational Certificate (for signing
purposes) and some of my time to navigate the admittedly arcane DUA
submission process at Winqual.

Bob NW8L
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Phil Hystad
I don't think writing the drivers is a herculean task but then I used to do 
that back when drivers did everything (such as mag tape equipment from the 
1960s era where microprocessors did not exist and everything was controlled by 
the software interrupt level driver).

Chip level drivers and USB interfaces are available.  In fact, I have USB for 
my PIC microprocessor projects and this stuff is all off the shelf (sort of).  

I do not know much about the "noise" aspect of USB though -- I presume you are 
referring to the USB 2.0 signaling speed and the noise generated.

Phil, K7PEH

On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Matt Palmer wrote:

> Usb can be a noisy thing, there are many reasons you wouldnt want it
> inside the radio Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers
> alone is herculean.
> 
> 
> Matt
> W8ESE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
>> Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option.  I actually thought it was a 
>> "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB 
>> connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed 
>> configuration.  This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables 
>> and certainly I would find one that would work.
>> 
>> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB 
>> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that 
>> there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" 
>> computer technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the other 
>> side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac 
>> and one Windows 7 laptop).
>> 
>> phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> P.S.  I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas.  I won't have the time 
>> to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote:
>> 
>>> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back
>>> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a kit that
>>> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB
>>> ports or mini ports.
>>> 
>>> Bob Maser
>>> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3)
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Bob Maser wrote:

> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on  
> the back
> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a  
> kit that
> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room  
> for 2 USB
> ports or mini ports.

Hi Bob,

Many ham stations incorporate legacy computers and interfaces that use  
RS232. We didn't want to create havoc by forcing everyone to upgrade.  
OTOH, it's easy to convert RS232 to USB.

That said, we hope to offer a USB version of the K3's digital I/O card  
sometime in the future. Nothing in the works yet.

tnx
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Matt Palmer
Usb can be a noisy thing, there are many reasons you wouldnt want it
inside the radio Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers
alone is herculean.


Matt
W8ESE




On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option.  I actually thought it was a 
> "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB 
> connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed 
> configuration.  This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables 
> and certainly I would find one that would work.
>
> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB 
> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that there 
> are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" computer 
> technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the other side, I 
> have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one 
> Windows 7 laptop).
>
> phil, K7PEH
>
> P.S.  I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas.  I won't have the time 
> to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote:
>
>> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back
>> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a kit that
>> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB
>> ports or mini ports.
>>
>> Bob Maser
>> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3)
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Phil Hystad
Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option.  I actually thought it was a 
"built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB connector 
and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed configuration.  
This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables and certainly I 
would find one that would work.

So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB port 
instead of, or in addition to, the serial port.  I understand that there are 
still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" computer 
technology and may not even have USB capability.  I am on the other side, I 
have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one 
Windows 7 laptop).

phil, K7PEH

P.S.  I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas.  I won't have the time to 
put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit.


On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote:

> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back 
> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a kit that 
> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB 
> ports or mini ports.
> 
> Bob Maser
> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) 
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[Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor

2009-11-20 Thread Bob Maser
Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back 
of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port?  They could offer a kit that 
would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB 
ports or mini ports.

Bob Maser
W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) 

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 7

2009-11-02 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Glad to hear it, Ken. I have been using 7Beta and RC for the last year or
so.  Love it.  I have it running on a netbook, a dual core Atom micro PC and
a full-fledged desktop. All show improved performance.  Some stuff to learn
and get used to but not bad.


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods
ATS-3B


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth A.
Christiansen
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:47 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB and Windows 7

Hi.

I converted two of my computers to Windows 7 this week end. I found I 
had to use a new
driver on the KUSB (Universal Serial Bus Adapter) for the K3.

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