Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Wendt
I think you need a bigger, faster, stronger mill...  ;-)

So, does this mean everything is now up and running on the old girl?

Mark

On 02/27/2012 10:49 PM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Random video!

 http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4

 (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool
 changer.  So we swap it out manually)  Visions of it flying across
 the room - even though that has not happened yet...

 sam

 On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote:

 Thanks Andy.  We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end.
 we emailed them and have not heard back.

 sam

 On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote:
  
 On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.comwrote:


 this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.
  
 Is it this one?
 http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18



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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-28 Thread Dave
 Linuxcnc has performed flawlessly.

It's awesome software.  :-)

Dave


On 2/28/2012 11:25 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 I still have to finalize my control panel.  It is still just a piece of
 plexi-glass with knobs and dials stuck through it.  :)  I would like to
 make up a pendant (maybe using a arduino uno and usb) because it would
 be nice to be able to jog the machine from the other side.  I had
 tweeked the ladder logic for the tool arm a bit but the problem was
 mainly a incorrectly adjusted flow valve.

 Other than that - the machine is been rock solid.  I have only had 2
 tool changes out of hundreds and hundreds that have stuck and that was
 before the valve adjustment and it hasn't failed since.  (It was
 supposed to slow the arm down before it hit the line up pin - but it was
 turned down so far that the only think making the arm hit the line up
 pin was the momentum.  So sometimes tools of radically different weights
 would cause it not to line up perfectly.   Hydraulics - got to love them ;)

 After running it for quite a few months I would say that I am very very
 happy with it.  Linuxcnc has performed flawlessly.

 sam

 On 2/28/2012 4:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:

 I think you need a bigger, faster, stronger mill...  ;-)

 So, does this mean everything is now up and running on the old girl?

 Mark

 On 02/27/2012 10:49 PM, sam sokolik wrote:
  
 Random video!

 http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4

 (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool
 changer.  So we swap it out manually)  Visions of it flying across
 the room - even though that has not happened yet...

 sam

 On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote:


 Thanks Andy.  We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end.
 we emailed them and have not heard back.

 sam

 On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote:

  
 On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:



 this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.

  
 Is it this one?
 http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18


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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2012-02-27 Thread sam sokolik
Random video!

http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4

(we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool 
changer.  So we swap it out manually)  Visions of it flying across 
the room - even though that has not happened yet...

sam

On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Thanks Andy.  We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end.
 we emailed them and have not heard back.

 sam

 On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com   wrote:

 this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.
 Is it this one?
 http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-06-17 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 6/14/11, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay.  Having fun
 calibrating the machine.  the ball screws seem to be a little off of
 what it should be 3tpi.  seems to be linear - just off.  (we are talking
 .00017 per inch)

That's pretty good accuracy, if you can really rely on it. What is the
measurement envelope, and how much did it cost? Do you have a link to
the product or ebay auction?

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-06-17 Thread sam sokolik
I was calibrating it over a longer distance.  14  (2 7. inch 
standards stacked together.)

this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-CAT-50-Zero-Sensor-type-ZS1-Spindle-Probe-/310098398900?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holdinghash=item48334e0eb4

(for  $50)

sam



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 On 6/14/11, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:
 well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay.  Having fun
 calibrating the machine.  the ball screws seem to be a little off of
 what it should be 3tpi.  seems to be linear - just off.  (we are talking
 .00017 per inch)
 That's pretty good accuracy, if you can really rely on it. What is the
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-06-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.

Is it this one?
http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-06-17 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks Andy.  We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end.  
we emailed them and have not heard back.

sam

On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:

 this is what we got..  we cannot really find any info on it.
 Is it this one?
 http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18


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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-06-14 Thread sam sokolik
well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay.  Having fun 
calibrating the machine.  the ball screws seem to be a little off of 
what it should be 3tpi.  seems to be linear - just off.  (we are talking 
.00017 per inch)

Here we are calibrating the probe to a hole we bored.

seems to be repeatable to a tenth or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOi51ogqels

Thanks Chris R for the great probing routines.
http://timeguy.com/cradek/01262579508

sam

On 01/17/2011 11:25 AM, Don Stanley wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:

 Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15
 years ago :)

 Hi Sam;
 A little off topic.  I used ENCO for years. I have found www.shars.com
 for better selection, price and quality.
 Shars also seem to be weaning china when pricing and customers permit.

 Sorry if this is old news
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-17 Thread Don Stanley
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:


 Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15
 years ago :)


Hi Sam;
A little off topic.  I used ENCO for years. I have found www.shars.com
for better selection, price and quality.
Shars also seem to be weaning china when pricing and customers permit.

   Sorry if this is old news
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-16 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Schweet!  How much more do you have to do before you put it in production?

Mark

On 1/15/2011 6:51 PM, sam sokolik wrote:
 so - here is a video with it all coming together.  This is a short gcode
 program that spots, drills, taps a hole.  At this time emc pauses motion
 when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends
 the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited
 until the ladder is done with the tool prep.  (if that made sense.)  The
 program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change
 sequence has to wait for the prep.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk

 After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the
 acc/dec twice as fast.

 sam




 On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:

 These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool!  Been watching this
 big girl come to life since you started posting the vids.  Thanks for
 keeping us in the loop Sam!

 Mark

 On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  
 That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  
 seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the only 
 sane solution..) ;)

 sam

 On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500
 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.milwrote:


 Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video -
 where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of
 the tool changing process?

 Mark

 At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:

  
 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything
 while it is pre-fetching the tool)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-16 Thread sam sokolik
It is actually a little easier than that.  Each tool has a mechanical 
barcode.  So I call the tool I want - it spins the chain until it reads 
the right number on the tool and puts it in the prepared location.

You can see the rings on the tool (the reader is behind it)
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.JPG

The tooling is something KT produces as far as I know.  Strait shank 
held in by a collet.  We have quite a bit of tooling and if we need more 
we would probably make it.

Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15 
years ago :)

sam

On 01/15/2011 09:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 gene heskett wrote:

 Sweet Sam.  Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking
 good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-)

 Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how
 does it track what tool is in which belt pocket?


 This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme.  EMC2 has a file where it keep
 track of which
 tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are
 loaded/unloaded.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 09:54:57 am sam sokolik did opine:

 It is actually a little easier than that.  Each tool has a mechanical
 barcode.  So I call the tool I want - it spins the chain until it reads
 the right number on the tool and puts it in the prepared location.
 
 You can see the rings on the tool (the reader is behind it)
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.
 JPG

And the ring pattern on the toolholder then is not tool orientation 
sensitive, neat.

 The tooling is something KT produces as far as I know.  Strait shank
 held in by a collet.  We have quite a bit of tooling and if we need more
 we would probably make it.
 
 Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15
 years ago :)

;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-15 Thread sam sokolik
so - here is a video with it all coming together.  This is a short gcode 
program that spots, drills, taps a hole.  At this time emc pauses motion 
when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends 
the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited 
until the ladder is done with the tool prep.  (if that made sense.)  The 
program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change 
sequence has to wait for the prep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk

After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the 
acc/dec twice as fast.

sam




On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool!  Been watching this
 big girl come to life since you started posting the vids.  Thanks for
 keeping us in the loop Sam!

 Mark

 On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  seems 
 to not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the only sane 
 solution..) ;)

 sam

 On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500
Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil   wrote:

 Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video -
 where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of
 the tool changing process?

 Mark

 At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:

 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything
 while it is pre-fetching the tool)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-15 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:15:43 pm sam sokolik did opine:

 so - here is a video with it all coming together.  This is a short gcode
 program that spots, drills, taps a hole.  At this time emc pauses motion
 when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends
 the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited
 until the ladder is done with the tool prep.  (if that made sense.)  The
 program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change
 sequence has to wait for the prep.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk
 
 After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the
 acc/dec twice as fast.
 
 sam
 
Sweet Sam.  Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking 
good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-)

Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how 
does it track what tool is in which belt pocket?

I'm like Mark, thanks for keeping us posted.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote:

  
 Sweet Sam.  Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking 
 good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-)

 Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how 
 does it track what tool is in which belt pocket?

   
This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme.  EMC2 has a file where it keep 
track of which
tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are 
loaded/unloaded.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-15 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:02:40 am Jon Elson did opine:

 gene heskett wrote:
  Sweet Sam.  Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally
  looking good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-)
  
  Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool,
  how does it track what tool is in which belt pocket?
 
 This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme.  EMC2 has a file where it keep
 track of which
 tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are
 loaded/unloaded.
 
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Thanks Jon.  I wasn't aware of it as my toy has a two armed tool changer.

 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-15 Thread Glenn Edwards
Thanks for the update.

What type (brand) of tool-holders does that machine use?

Glenn 

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To: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

so - here is a video with it all coming together.  This is a short gcode
program that spots, drills, taps a hole.  At this time emc pauses motion
when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends the
tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited until
the ladder is done with the tool prep.  (if that made sense.)  The program
is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change sequence has to
wait for the prep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk

After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the acc/dec
twice as fast.

sam




On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool!  Been watching 
 this big girl come to life since you started posting the vids.  Thanks 
 for keeping us in the loop Sam!

 Mark

 On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  
 seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the 
 only sane solution..) ;)

 sam

 On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500
Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil   wrote:

 Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video - 
 where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of 
 the tool changing process?

 Mark

 At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:

 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything 
 while it is pre-fetching the tool)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Wendt
These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool!  Been watching this 
big girl come to life since you started posting the vids.  Thanks for 
keeping us in the loop Sam!

Mark

On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  seems 
 to not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the only sane 
 solution..) ;)

 sam

 On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500
   Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil  wrote:

 Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video -
 where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of
 the tool changing process?

 Mark

 At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:
  
 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything
 while it is pre-fetching the tool)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-09 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video - 
where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of 
the tool changing process?

Mark

At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:
Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

(having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything 
while it is pre-fetching the tool)

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-09 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Dayum!

Mark

At 09:16 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:
60 rpm 1 inch tap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU

400 rpm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k

the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty 
light vfd...  But it works

1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-09 Thread samco
That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  seems to 
not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the only sane 
solution..) ;)

sam

On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500
 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote:
 Pretty neat stuff Sam!  What is that last operation in that video - 
 where it looks like that big nut moving laterally?  Is that part of 
 the tool changing process?
 
 Mark
 
 At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote:
 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90
 
 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.
 
 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything 
 while it is pre-fetching the tool)
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 January 2011 16:30,  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 That is the spindle collet unclamp.  It moves forward about .05 inch.  seems 
 to not be a problem with the encoder setup.  (it really was the only sane 
 solution..) ;)

You could have machined a cup-shaped encoder disc, so that the
interruptor could move up and down in the slot of the detectors…

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-08 Thread samco
Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.  

(having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything while it is 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-08 Thread Igor Chudov
Looks very nicely done. Looking forward to you rigid tapping, it is very
nice as a feature, having done so myself.

I put a like on your video.

Personally, I am working on 4th axis right now, I would say I am 80% done.
That said, it is 80% only if no unexpected snags occur. If the resolver
converter does not get along with the resolver, for example, I am only
perhaps 10% done.

i


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 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90

 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.

 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything while it
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-08 Thread samco
60 rpm 1 inch tap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU

400 rpm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k

the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty light vfd... 
 But it works

1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI

sam


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 Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90
 
 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.  
 
 (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything while it is 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2011-01-08 Thread Igor Chudov
400 RPM with a 1 tap, exciting

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 60 rpm 1 inch tap.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU

 400 rpm
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k

 the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty light
 vfd...  But it works

 1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI

 sam


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  Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90
 
  rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon.
 
  (having some tool prep issues.  Master seems to pause everything while it
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-20 Thread Mark Wendt
Almost done, eh?  Great job so far Sam.  It's been pretty neat to watch 
the old girl come back to life.

Mark

On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel)

 This is the encoder for the spindle..  This will allow for rigid tapping.

 Heating up the timing gear
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG

 installed
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG

 Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder
 pully)
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG

 sam

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 sam sokolik wrote:
  
 Thanks!

 the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a
 peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt
 drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close
 to what the old hydraulic servos.


 I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE
 sufficient for
 such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high
 speed contouring,
 but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle
 speed makes practical.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-20 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote:
 well - we are not 100% sure.  We started with a similar sized pair of 
 gears but could not find a belt that fit them.  So we found this pair in 
 our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They 
 are XL and we know the we can get belts. :)  We think they started life 
 as a drive for a line printer belt.  where ever other tooth was a 
 letter.  That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house.  We could 
 be wrong.
   
I THOUGHT those things looked DAMN familiar.  They are gear sensor 
wheels from an
IBM line printer.  Now, maybe they saved time by taking teeth off 
commercial timing pulleys,
but I'd check the profile carefully to make sure it is not going to 
prematurely wear out the belt.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 December 2010 16:51, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 but I'd check the profile carefully to make sure it is not going to
 prematurely wear out the belt.

Considering the drag load of an encoder, even prematurely might be 20
years. I suspect it is something to watch, rather than worry about.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-20 Thread sam sokolik
it seems to track perfectly - but time will tell.  :)

At some point we might actually have to *gasp* buy a pair of timing 
gears. ;)

sam

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 sam sokolik wrote:
 well - we are not 100% sure.  We started with a similar sized pair of
 gears but could not find a belt that fit them.  So we found this pair in
 our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They
 are XL and we know the we can get belts. :)  We think they started life
 as a drive for a line printer belt.  where ever other tooth was a
 letter.  That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house.  We could
 be wrong.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread sam sokolik
Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel)

This is the encoder for the spindle..  This will allow for rigid tapping.

Heating up the timing gear
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG

installed
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG

Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder 
pully)
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG

sam

On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 sam sokolik wrote:
 Thanks!

 the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a
 peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt
 drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close
 to what the old hydraulic servos.

 I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE
 sufficient for
 such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high
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 speed makes practical.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread Igor Chudov
Looks really great. You will love rigid tapping.

i

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:56 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel)

 This is the encoder for the spindle..  This will allow for rigid tapping.

 Heating up the timing gear
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG

 installed

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG

 Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder
 pully)

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG

 sam

 On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
  sam sokolik wrote:
  Thanks!
 
  the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a
  peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt
  drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close
  to what the old hydraulic servos.
 
  I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE
  sufficient for
  such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high
  speed contouring,
  but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle
  speed makes practical.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Sam,
  Sweet - nice job
  Now you need a socket to fit the gear teeth so you can remove that nut
when (not if) is is necessary.
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread Dave
I've never seen belt pulleys like that.   Are the skipped teeth just to 
minimize machining or is there another purpose?

Dave

On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel)

 This is the encoder for the spindle..  This will allow for rigid tapping.

 Heating up the timing gear
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG

 installed
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG

 Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder
 pully)
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG

 sam

 On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

 sam sokolik wrote:
  
 Thanks!

 the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a
 peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt
 drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close
 to what the old hydraulic servos.


 I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE
 sufficient for
 such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high
 speed contouring,
 but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle
 speed makes practical.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread sam sokolik
well - we are not 100% sure.  We started with a similar sized pair of 
gears but could not find a belt that fit them.  So we found this pair in 
our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They 
are XL and we know the we can get belts. :)  We think they started life 
as a drive for a line printer belt.  where ever other tooth was a 
letter.  That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house.  We could 
be wrong.

sam

On 12/19/2010 10:25 AM, Dave wrote:
 I've never seen belt pulleys like that.   Are the skipped teeth just to
 minimize machining or is there another purpose?

 Dave

 On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel)

 This is the encoder for the spindle..  This will allow for rigid tapping.

 Heating up the timing gear
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG

 installed
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG

 Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder
 pully)
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG

 sam

 On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

 sam sokolik wrote:

 Thanks!

 the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a
 peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt
 drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close
 to what the old hydraulic servos.


 I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE
 sufficient for
 such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high
 speed contouring,
 but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle
 speed makes practical.

 Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread sam sokolik
well - we heated it up mainly for ease of slipping it on.  it almost 
went on by hand.  it will probably come off pretty easy.

sam

On 12/19/2010 10:19 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
 Sam,
Sweet - nice job
Now you need a socket to fit the gear teeth so you can remove that nut
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Ok - I was going to volunteer to edm a 'box end' wrench to fit.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 well - we heated it up mainly for ease of slipping it on.  it almost
 went on by hand.  it will probably come off pretty easy.

 sam

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 Sweet - nice job
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-12 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks!

the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a 
peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt 
drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close 
to what the old hydraulic servos.

sam

On 12/11/2010 08:38 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 sam sokolik wrote:
 had some time to do some tuning.  Getting there - I am pretty new to it.

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png

 That is a .1 move at about 25ipm  - the peak at the begining and end are
 the acc/decel.  it peaks at .00017.  It is a bit better than that - I
 had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the
 amps to maximum. :)  I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a
 bit of machining with no issues.

 Getting there?  I think you ARE there!  peak error below 2 tenths sounds
 very good to me.
 sam

 ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force
 continuous. :)

 Yikes, those must be some BIG servos!  You want to be awfully careful
 about crashing a machine
 that can deliver that much linear force to things.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote:
 Thanks!

 the drives are what is limiting..  They are 20a continuous and 40a 
 peak.  The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb.  with a 2:1 belt 
 drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws.   That is pretty close 
 to what the old hydraulic servos.
   
I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting.  It sounds QUITE 
sufficient for
such a machine.  You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high 
speed contouring,
but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle 
speed makes practical.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-11 Thread sam sokolik
had some time to do some tuning.  Getting there - I am pretty new to it.

http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png

That is a .1 move at about 25ipm  - the peak at the begining and end are 
the acc/decel.  it peaks at .00017.  It is a bit better than that - I 
had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the 
amps to maximum. :)  I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a 
bit of machining with no issues.

sam

ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force 
continuous. :)



On 12/09/2010 08:09 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 fully auto!  (pallet tranfer) could use a little optimization - but I am
 happy with it.  (because it works ;))

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objyMqAHUNU

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYA5uEwLSTA

 right now I have a few buttons on a pyvcp pannel to do activate the
 cycles (offload pallet, swap pallets, Load pallet) and plan to activate
 it with M1XX codes in the future.

 sam

 On 11/14/2010 9:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Yes - first cut!

 I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG

 smallest hex.

 sam


 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500
Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil   wrote:
 Sam,

  Very neat!  It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big
 machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done
 since bringing 'er up?

 Mark

 At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote:
 Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing
 pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping
 (and maybe closed loop speed control)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8

 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG

 kinda cool picture.
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-11 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote:
 had some time to do some tuning.  Getting there - I am pretty new to it.

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png

 That is a .1 move at about 25ipm  - the peak at the begining and end are 
 the acc/decel.  it peaks at .00017.  It is a bit better than that - I 
 had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the 
 amps to maximum. :)  I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a 
 bit of machining with no issues.
   
Getting there?  I think you ARE there!  peak error below 2 tenths sounds 
very good to me.
 sam

 ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force 
 continuous. :)
   
Yikes, those must be some BIG servos!  You want to be awfully careful 
about crashing a machine
that can deliver that much linear force to things.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-09 Thread sam sokolik
fully auto!  (pallet tranfer) could use a little optimization - but I am 
happy with it.  (because it works ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objyMqAHUNU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYA5uEwLSTA

right now I have a few buttons on a pyvcp pannel to do activate the 
cycles (offload pallet, swap pallets, Load pallet) and plan to activate 
it with M1XX codes in the future.

sam

On 11/14/2010 9:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Yes - first cut!

 I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG

 smallest hex.

 sam


 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500
   Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil  wrote:
 Sam,

 Very neat!  It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big
 machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done
 since bringing 'er up?

 Mark

 At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote:
 Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing
 pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping
 (and maybe closed loop speed control)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8

 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG

 kinda cool picture.
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-14 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Sam,

   Very neat!  It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big 
machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done 
since bringing 'er up?

Mark

At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote:
Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing 
pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping 
(and maybe closed loop speed control)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8

this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.

http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG

kinda cool picture.
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-14 Thread samco
The gear seems to be made of some sort of pot metal.  it cut pretty easy.  It 
wasn't until we where done did we figure out that it was metric.  (took us a 
bit to find a belt that would fit)  5mm pitch 9mm width.

sam


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  Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing
  pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping
  (and maybe closed loop speed control)
 
 So it's beginning to earn its keep, cool. What is the material? My first
 impression was sintered steal and then thought it might be difficult to
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-14 Thread Igor Chudov
Sam, for some reason, I love your machine. Great job and a very
impressive piece of machinery.

i


On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:30 AM,  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Yes - first cut!

 I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going

 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG

 smallest hex.

 sam


 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500
  Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote:
 Sam,

    Very neat!  It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big
 machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done
 since bringing 'er up?

 Mark

 At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote:
 Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing
 pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping
 (and maybe closed loop speed control)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8
 
 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.
 
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG
 
 kinda cool picture.
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-14 Thread William Baden

Great job! Looks to be diecast aluminum?

Will Baden

 From: sa...@empirescreen.com
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 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:51:08 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb   progress
 
 Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully 
 for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe 
 closed loop speed control)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8
 
 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.
 
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG
 
 kinda cool picture.
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG
 
 sam
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600
  sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  Have the B axis hacked together.  This is more of an indexer as it has a 
  72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree 
  indexes.
  
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg
  (taken out of our parts machine)
  
  So far so good.  The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well.  
  I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped 
  before the motion starts.
  
  The first movement in both videos are the home to index only.  The table 
  lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - 
  rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up 
  - then re-clamps the table.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc
  
  Getting there!!
  sam
  
  
  On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
   Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)
  
   sam
  
   On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
   Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?
  
   Mark
  
   On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
   pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
   station.
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w
  
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-13 Thread samco
Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for 
the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed 
loop speed control)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8

this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.

http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG

kinda cool picture.
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG

sam




On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600
 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Have the B axis hacked together.  This is more of an indexer as it has a 
 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree 
 indexes.
 
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg
 (taken out of our parts machine)
 
 So far so good.  The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well.  
 I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped 
 before the motion starts.
 
 The first movement in both videos are the home to index only.  The table 
 lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - 
 rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up 
 - then re-clamps the table.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc
 
 Getting there!!
 sam
 
 
 On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
  Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)
 
  sam
 
  On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
  Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?
 
  Mark
 
  On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
  pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
  station.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:28:19 pm sa...@empirescreen.com did 
opine:

 Did a little milling.  Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing
 pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping
 (and maybe closed loop speed control)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8
 
 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to.
 
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JP
 G
 
 kinda cool picture.
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JP
 G
 
Looking good, Sam!

 sam
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600
 
  sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  Have the B axis hacked together.  This is more of an indexer as it has
  a 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5
  degree indexes.
  
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg
  (taken out of our parts machine)
  
  So far so good.  The locking rotaries that Chris added works very
  well. I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is
  tripped before the motion starts.
  
  The first movement in both videos are the home to index only.  The
  table lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the
  index - rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling
  will line up - then re-clamps the table.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc
  
  Getting there!!
  sam
  
  On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
   Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.
;)
   
   sam
   
   On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
   Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?
   
   Mark
   
   On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
   pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other
   pallet station.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w
   
   sam
   
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-11-08 Thread sam sokolik
Have the B axis hacked together.  This is more of an indexer as it has a 
72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree 
indexes.

http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg
(taken out of our parts machine)

So far so good.  The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well.  
I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped 
before the motion starts.

The first movement in both videos are the home to index only.  The table 
lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - 
rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up 
- then re-clamps the table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc

Getting there!!
sam


On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

 sam

 On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark

 On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

 sam
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-29 Thread Mark Wendt
It's just so hard to find good help these days...  ;-)

Mark

On 10/28/2010 10:03 PM, Dave wrote:
 Apparently these new cameras do that..

 The camera I had back when I was 20 didn't do that..  Apparently we both
 need different cameras.

 Have you also noticed that they use less fabric in clothes these days..
 Cheap bastards.  ;-)

 Dave


 On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:

 Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

 sam

 On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:

  
 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark


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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread sam sokolik
pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet 
station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

sam



On 10/18/2010 8:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
I still have to really tune all the axis.  (velocity mode amps seem to
 be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale
 and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop
 gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1)

 We need to get something hooked in for the B axis.  I cannot wait to try
 the locked rotorys that Chris added emc.  (our B axis is lifted before
 it is rotated.  It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments.
 )  Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out.  No major
 problems so far.  We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling
 and such.

 sam

 On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
 Schweet!  What else do you have left to do Sam?

 Mark

 At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is
 pallet change and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid
 to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then
 transfer the tool.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

 sam

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread Mark Wendt
Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

Mark

On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

 sam

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread William Baden

Great job.  Keep up the good work.

Will Baden

 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:33:14 -0500
 From: sa...@empirescreen.com
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb   progress
 
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet 
 station.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w
 
 sam
 
 
 
 On 10/18/2010 8:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 I still have to really tune all the axis.  (velocity mode amps seem to
  be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale
  and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop
  gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1)
 
  We need to get something hooked in for the B axis.  I cannot wait to try
  the locked rotorys that Chris added emc.  (our B axis is lifted before
  it is rotated.  It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments.
  )  Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out.  No major
  problems so far.  We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling
  and such.
 
  sam
 
  On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
  Schweet!  What else do you have left to do Sam?
 
  Mark
 
  At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
  I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is
  pallet change and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid
  to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then
  transfer the tool.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ
 
  sam
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread sam sokolik
Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

sam

On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark

 On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

 sam
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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread Mark Wendt
;-)  Blame the camera...

Mark

On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

 sam

 On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark

 On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread Igor Chudov
looks like an awesome machine and a great way to have fun.

i

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:23 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

 sam

 On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark

 On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-28 Thread Dave
Apparently these new cameras do that..

The camera I had back when I was 20 didn't do that..  Apparently we both 
need different cameras.

Have you also noticed that they use less fabric in clothes these days..  
Cheap bastards.  ;-)

Dave


On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 Yes - that would be me.   I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs.  ;)

 sam

 On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:

 Sweet!  Izzat you in the red hat?

 Mark

 On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
  
 pallet load/unload.  still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet
 station.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w

 sam

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Wendt
Very cool stuff.  Can't wait to hear the good news that it's all up and 
running and in production!

EMC2.  It's not just your father's hobbiest software anymore!

Mark

On 10/18/2010 09:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
I still have to really tune all the axis.  (velocity mode amps seem to
 be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale
 and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop
 gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1)

 We need to get something hooked in for the B axis.  I cannot wait to try
 the locked rotorys that Chris added emc.  (our B axis is lifted before
 it is rotated.  It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments.
 )  Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out.  No major
 problems so far.  We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling
 and such.

 sam

 On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:

 Schweet!  What else do you have left to do Sam?

 Mark

 At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
  
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is
 pallet change and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid
 to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then
 transfer the tool.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Schweet!  What else do you have left to do Sam?

Mark

At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is 
pallet change and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid 
to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then 
transfer the tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-18 Thread sam sokolik
  I still have to really tune all the axis.  (velocity mode amps seem to 
be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale 
and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop 
gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1)

We need to get something hooked in for the B axis.  I cannot wait to try 
the locked rotorys that Chris added emc.  (our B axis is lifted before 
it is rotated.  It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments. 
)  Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out.  No major 
problems so far.  We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling 
and such.

sam

On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
 Schweet!  What else do you have left to do Sam?

 Mark

 At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote:
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is
 pallet change and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid
 to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then
 transfer the tool.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-18 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote:
   I still have to really tune all the axis.  (velocity mode amps seem to 
 be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale 
 and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop 
 gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1)
   
If you haven't done serious tuning with Halscope, then almost certainly, 
you can do
a LOT better with 15-30 minutes on the first axis.  After that, the next 
axes will come
in 5 minutes or so, just starting with the settings from the first one.  
You want to raise
P and maybe add a little more D, then tweak FF1 and FF2 to pull the 
errors down
close to zero.  More P will reduce error while in the cruise phase.  
When you can't go
any higher, then add some FF1 until the cruise error is practically 
zero.  Then, very
small amounts of FF2 can be used to reduce the error during the 
accel/decel ramps.

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-17 Thread samco
I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is pallet change 
and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool 
change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

sam

On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:38:34 -0500
 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Things are coming together.  Very happy with the results so far.  There are 
 some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical.  Right 
 now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling.  Looks 
 like some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the pressures/flow 
 regulators are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose in the 
 transmission).  (Y ways are oiled by hydraulic fluid)
 
 We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch.  (which isn't 
 there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type pump 
 that oils the ways and ball screws.  We found the solenoid (wasn't hooked up 
 because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch.  oil started apearing on 
 the ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will cycle that 
 solenoid every so often.  
 
 
 sam
 
 
 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400
  Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote:
  Sam,
  
   No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff!  Looks 
  like things are coming together for you.  Damn, I wish I could play 
  with big toyls like that or Stuart's.
  
  Mark
  
  At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:
  more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal 
  component.  It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this 
  video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a 
  piece.  Every other speed is ccw.  (just testing that also)  the 
  bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you 
  can see it count up binary with each gear change.  very happy with 
  the results.  EMC is awesome!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE
  
  I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train 
  spins for a certain amount of time while shifting.  (plus in the 
  future do closed loop spindle speed)
  
  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG
  
  This is the hal component so far.  Still have to add 'at speed' and 
  keylock.  (it is messy - I know)
  
  component gearshift16 gearshift16;
  // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission.  The 
  gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence.
  
  pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed;
  
  pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to 
  motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command;
  
  pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the 
  motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added;
  
  pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd;
  
  pin out float currselgear current selected gear;
  pin out float nextgear  next gear if gear has changed;
  
  pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place;
  
  pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait 
  while shifting;
  
  pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time;
  
  pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails;
  pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0;
  pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1;
  pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2;
  pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3;
  pin out bit ksol  spindle lock sol;
  
  pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0;
  pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - 
  should be changed into variable after debugging;
  pin in bit spnon spindle on;
  pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so 
  to know not to shift while spindle is on;
  pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the 
  spindle override is 0 - hack;
  pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate;
  pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode;
  pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next 
  possible;
  
  // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override.
  // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for 
  calculating actual commanded spindle command;
  // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed 
  based on halui spindle speed.;
  
  pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting;
  
  pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor;
  
  
  function _ ;
  license GPL;
  ;;
  
  #include rtapi_math.h
  
  
  
  FUNCTION(_) {
  static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, 
  .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, 
  .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554};
  static double 
  TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000};
  int Gear = 0, 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-17 Thread Jon Elson
sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is pallet change 
 and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool 
 change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ

   
VERY impressive!  Your 3 axis helix with you in the picture gives some 
scale to the machine, WOW!

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-17 Thread Igor Chudov
Seconded. Amazing machine and progress.

i

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is pallet change 
 and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool 
 change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ


 VERY impressive!  Your 3 axis helix with you in the picture gives some
 scale to the machine, WOW!

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-17 Thread William Baden

Great job. Looks like it is coming right along.

Will Baden

 From: sa...@empirescreen.com
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:44:45 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb  progress
 
 I think we have the spindle/tool change working well.  Next is pallet change 
 and B axis.  This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool 
 change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ
 
 sam
 
 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:38:34 -0500
  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  Things are coming together.  Very happy with the results so far.  There are 
  some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical.  
  Right now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling.  
  Looks like some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the 
  pressures/flow regulators are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose 
  in the transmission).  (Y ways are oiled by hydraulic fluid)
  
  We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch.  (which isn't 
  there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type 
  pump that oils the ways and ball screws.  We found the solenoid (wasn't 
  hooked up because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch.  oil started 
  apearing on the ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will 
  cycle that solenoid every so often.  
  
  
  sam
  
  
  On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400
   Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote:
   Sam,
   
No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff!  Looks 
   like things are coming together for you.  Damn, I wish I could play 
   with big toyls like that or Stuart's.
   
   Mark
   
   At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:
   more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal 
   component.  It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this 
   video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a 
   piece.  Every other speed is ccw.  (just testing that also)  the 
   bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you 
   can see it count up binary with each gear change.  very happy with 
   the results.  EMC is awesome!
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE
   
   I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train 
   spins for a certain amount of time while shifting.  (plus in the 
   future do closed loop spindle speed)
   
   http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG
   
   This is the hal component so far.  Still have to add 'at speed' and 
   keylock.  (it is messy - I know)
   
   component gearshift16 gearshift16;
   // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission.  The 
   gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence.
   
   pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed;
   
   pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to 
   motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command;
   
   pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the 
   motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added;
   
   pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd;
   
   pin out float currselgear current selected gear;
   pin out float nextgear  next gear if gear has changed;
   
   pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place;
   
   pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait 
   while shifting;
   
   pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time;
   
   pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails;
   pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0;
   pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1;
   pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2;
   pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3;
   pin out bit ksol  spindle lock sol;
   
   pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0;
   pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - 
   should be changed into variable after debugging;
   pin in bit spnon spindle on;
   pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so 
   to know not to shift while spindle is on;
   pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the 
   spindle override is 0 - hack;
   pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate;
   pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode;
   pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next 
   possible;
   
   // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by 
   override.
   // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for 
   calculating actual commanded spindle command;
   // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed 
   based on halui spindle speed.;
   
   pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting;
   
   pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor;
   
   
   function _ ;
   license GPL

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-10 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Sam,

 No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff!  Looks 
like things are coming together for you.  Damn, I wish I could play 
with big toyls like that or Stuart's.

Mark

At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:
more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal 
component.  It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this 
video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a 
piece.  Every other speed is ccw.  (just testing that also)  the 
bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you 
can see it count up binary with each gear change.  very happy with 
the results.  EMC is awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE

I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train 
spins for a certain amount of time while shifting.  (plus in the 
future do closed loop spindle speed)

http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG

This is the hal component so far.  Still have to add 'at speed' and 
keylock.  (it is messy - I know)

component gearshift16 gearshift16;
// this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission.  The 
gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence.

pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed;

pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to 
motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command;

pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the 
motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added;

pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd;

pin out float currselgear current selected gear;
pin out float nextgear  next gear if gear has changed;

pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place;

pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait 
while shifting;

pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time;

pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails;
pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0;
pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1;
pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2;
pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3;
pin out bit ksol  spindle lock sol;

pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0;
pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - 
should be changed into variable after debugging;
pin in bit spnon spindle on;
pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so 
to know not to shift while spindle is on;
pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the 
spindle override is 0 - hack;
pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate;
pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode;
pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible;

// this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override.
// pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for 
calculating actual commanded spindle command;
// pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed 
based on halui spindle speed.;

pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting;

pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor;


function _ ;
license GPL;
;;

#include rtapi_math.h



FUNCTION(_) {
static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, 
.0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, 
.2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554};
static double 
TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000};
int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0;






currgearint = currselgear;
//enable and shift into first gear - gear 0
if(enable==true  enabled==false)
 {
 spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm;
 if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30)  
 spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30))
 {
 shpsol=true;
 sc1sol=false;
 sasol=false;
 sc2sol=false;
 sssol=false;
 ksol=false;
 if(capturedraw==0) capturedraw=rawcountsin;
 
if((capturedraw+shiftencodercounts)rawcountsin  oneps==true)
 {
 spnmotorspeed = 0;
 enabled = true;
 capturedraw=0;
 currselgear=0;

 }
 }
 }


//if enable goes false
if(enable==false)
 {
 ksol=false;
 shpsol=false;
 enabled=false;
 capturedraw=0;
 spnmotorspeed = 0;
 }

//check what gear should be

if(enabled==true  spnbrake == false  spindlelock==false)
 {
 for (gearloop = 1 ; gearloop = 16 ; gearloop++)
 {
 if(fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)=TOPRPM[gearloop]  
 fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)TOPRPM[gearloop-1])
 {
 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-10 Thread samco
Things are coming together.  Very happy with the results so far.  There are 
some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical.  Right 
now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling.  Looks like 
some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the pressures/flow regulators 
are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose in the transmission).  (Y ways 
are oiled by hydraulic fluid)

We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch.  (which isn't 
there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type pump 
that oils the ways and ball screws.  We found the solenoid (wasn't hooked up 
because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch.  oil started apearing on the 
ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will cycle that solenoid 
every so often.  


sam


On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400
 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote:
 Sam,
 
  No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff!  Looks 
 like things are coming together for you.  Damn, I wish I could play 
 with big toyls like that or Stuart's.
 
 Mark
 
 At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:
 more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal 
 component.  It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this 
 video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a 
 piece.  Every other speed is ccw.  (just testing that also)  the 
 bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you 
 can see it count up binary with each gear change.  very happy with 
 the results.  EMC is awesome!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE
 
 I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train 
 spins for a certain amount of time while shifting.  (plus in the 
 future do closed loop spindle speed)
 
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG
 
 This is the hal component so far.  Still have to add 'at speed' and 
 keylock.  (it is messy - I know)
 
 component gearshift16 gearshift16;
 // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission.  The 
 gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence.
 
 pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed;
 
 pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to 
 motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command;
 
 pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the 
 motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added;
 
 pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd;
 
 pin out float currselgear current selected gear;
 pin out float nextgear  next gear if gear has changed;
 
 pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place;
 
 pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait 
 while shifting;
 
 pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time;
 
 pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails;
 pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0;
 pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1;
 pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2;
 pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3;
 pin out bit ksol  spindle lock sol;
 
 pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0;
 pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - 
 should be changed into variable after debugging;
 pin in bit spnon spindle on;
 pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so 
 to know not to shift while spindle is on;
 pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the 
 spindle override is 0 - hack;
 pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate;
 pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode;
 pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next 
 possible;
 
 // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override.
 // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for 
 calculating actual commanded spindle command;
 // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed 
 based on halui spindle speed.;
 
 pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting;
 
 pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor;
 
 
 function _ ;
 license GPL;
 ;;
 
 #include rtapi_math.h
 
 
 
 FUNCTION(_) {
 static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, 
 .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, 
 .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554};
 static double 
 TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000};
 int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0;
 
 
 
 
 
 
 currgearint = currselgear;
 //enable and shift into first gear - gear 0
 if(enable==true  enabled==false)
  {
  spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm;
  if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30)  
  spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30))
  {
  shpsol=true;
  sc1sol=false;
  sasol=false;
 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-09 Thread samco
more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component.  It seems 
to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for 
about 10 seconds a piece.  Every other speed is ccw.  (just testing that also)  
the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see 
it count up binary with each gear change.  very happy with the results.  EMC is 
awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE

I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a 
certain amount of time while shifting.  (plus in the future do closed loop 
spindle speed)

http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG

This is the hal component so far.  Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock.  
(it is messy - I know)

component gearshift16 gearshift16;
// this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission.  The gearbox 
has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence.

pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed;

pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to 
motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command;  

pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out 
to get spindle speed with overrride added;

pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd;

pin out float currselgear current selected gear;
pin out float nextgear  next gear if gear has changed;

pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place;

pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while 
shifting;

pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time;

pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails;
pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0;
pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1;
pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2;
pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3;
pin out bit ksol  spindle lock sol;

pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0;
pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be 
changed into variable after debugging;
pin in bit spnon spindle on;
pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not 
to shift while spindle is on;
pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle 
override is 0 - hack;
pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; 
pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode;
pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible;

// this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override.
// pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for 
calculating actual commanded spindle command;
// pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui 
spindle speed.;

pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting;

pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor;  


function _ ;
license GPL;
;;

#include rtapi_math.h

 

FUNCTION(_) {
static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, .0804513, 
.0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, 
.5998969, .6817628, .7662554};
static double 
TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000};
int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0;






currgearint = currselgear;
//enable and shift into first gear - gear 0
if(enable==true  enabled==false) 
{
spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm;
if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30)  
spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30))
{ 
shpsol=true;
sc1sol=false;
sasol=false;
sc2sol=false;
sssol=false;
ksol=false;
if(capturedraw==0) capturedraw=rawcountsin;
if((capturedraw+shiftencodercounts)rawcountsin  
oneps==true)
{
spnmotorspeed = 0;
enabled = true;
capturedraw=0;
currselgear=0;

}   
}   
}


//if enable goes false 
if(enable==false)
{
ksol=false;
shpsol=false;
enabled=false;
capturedraw=0;
spnmotorspeed = 0;
}

//check what gear should be

if(enabled==true  spnbrake == false  spindlelock==false)
{
for (gearloop = 1 ; gearloop = 16 ; gearloop++)
{
if(fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)=TOPRPM[gearloop]  
fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)TOPRPM[gearloop-1])
{
nextgear=gearloop-1;
if(nextgear != 
currselgear){shift=true;}else{shift=false;}
}
}
}
//spindle lock logic





Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-06 Thread sam sokolik
  Worked a bit on the tool changer arm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxW8TKBGWU

sam

On 10/5/2010 10:15 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
3 axis moving! ;)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw

 sam

 On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
 2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to 
 do that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of 
 gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple 
 into this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
 sa...@empirescreen.comwrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
 it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wendt
Very cool!  That's definitely a good sized machine!

mark

On 10/06/2010 09:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
Worked a bit on the tool changer arm.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxW8TKBGWU

 sam

 On 10/5/2010 10:15 AM, sam sokolik wrote:

 3 axis moving! ;)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw

 sam

 On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
  
  2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
 it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to 
 do that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of 
 gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple 
 into this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
 it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 
 8 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will 
 be 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a 
 good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are 
 at the point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is 
 awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-05 Thread sam sokolik
  3 axis moving! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw

sam

On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
sa...@empirescreen.com   wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-10-05 Thread Igor Chudov
Very neat!

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  3 axis moving! ;)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw

 sam

 On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
    2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to 
 do that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of 
 gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple 
 into this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
    sa...@empirescreen.com   wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
 it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-09-07 Thread Mark Wendt
That thing's a beast!

Mark

On 09/06/2010 01:28 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
 Looks REALLY impressive and BIG!

 - Igor



 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:

   2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to 
 do that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of 
 gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple 
 into this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
sa...@empirescreen.comwrote:

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
 it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-09-06 Thread sam sokolik
  2 axis moving!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

sam

On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush 
 low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
 peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
 atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where 
 the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and 
 seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 
 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
   sa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do 
 that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 Don't think the previous 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-09-06 Thread Igor Chudov
Looks REALLY impressive and BIG!

- Igor



On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  2 axis moving!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c

 sam

 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

 this should work better.

 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)

 sam


 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
   sa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-09-06 Thread Tom Easterday
Very cool.  What are you going to cut on that beast or do you know yet?

By the way, re: vintage 60s picture, do you wear a tie under your lab coat when 
you operate it?  :-)
-Tom

On Sep 6, 2010, at 12:38 PM, sam sokolik wrote:

  2 axis moving!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c
 
 sam
 
 On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...
 
 this should work better.
 
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.
 
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).
 
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg
 
 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG
 
 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG
 
 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s
 
 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y
 
 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)
 
 sam
 
 
 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
  sa...@empirescreen.com  wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.
 
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
 point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
 to peter and seb for their work).
 
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
 all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-09-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
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2010-08-26 Thread samco
I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  

This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it to 
EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low 
rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where the 
machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for 
their work).

Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

this is what the machine looks like now
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

getting rid of the old control
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

this is the old electrical box
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

here is it mostly hooked up
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 
axis
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

open
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

stripped
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

servo plate mounted
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

belts (B axis still needs a solution)
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do 
that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 off 
the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/gears.JPG

we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
this shaft.
http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...yaxisshaft.JPG

here is the tool chain logic working...
YouTube - Kearney and Trecker tool chain logic working in EMC2. Mechanically 
barcoded tools

here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
YouTube - Kearney and Trecker first closed loop movement with EMC2.

Getting there Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a 
week.

sam 

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread samco
Well - I fail at copy and paste...

this should work better.

I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
 
This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it to 
EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low 
rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where the 
machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for 
their work).
 
Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

this is what the machine looks like now
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

getting rid of the old control
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

this is the old electrical box
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

here is it mostly hooked up
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 
axis
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

open 
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

stripped
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

servo plate mounted 
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

belts (B axis still needs a solution)
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the 
washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
this shaft.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

here is the tool chain logic working...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about once 
a week.)

sam


On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
 
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush 
 low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
 peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
 atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where 
 the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and 
 seb for their work).
 
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 
 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg
 
 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do 
 that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 
 off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread Igor Chudov
Looks like an awesome machine and a very fun project, but most of your
picture URLs are bad.

i

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM,  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.

 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush 
 low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
 peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
 atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where 
 the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and 
 seb for their work).

 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG

 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg

 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG

 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 
 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG

 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG

 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG

 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg

 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg

 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do 
 that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 
 off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/gears.JPG

 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...yaxisshaft.JPG

 here is the tool chain logic working...
 YouTube - Kearney and Trecker tool chain logic working in EMC2. Mechanically 
 barcoded tools

 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 YouTube - Kearney and Trecker first closed loop movement with EMC2.

 Getting there Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a 
 week.

 sam

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Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread William Baden

I haven't written much on the emc-users list but I do have to have say nice job 
on the progress.  I enjoyed the pics and videos.  Makes me want to dive back 
into the project that I have started.

Will

 From: sa...@empirescreen.com
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:38:18 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
 
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...
 
 this should work better.
 
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
  
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush 
 low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
 peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
 atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where 
 the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and 
 seb for their work).
  
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 
 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 open 
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted 
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg
 
 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG
 
 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG
 
 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s
 
 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y
 
 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)
 
 sam
 
 
 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
  
  This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
  to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
  brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
  40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
  70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
  point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
  to peter and seb for their work).
  
  Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
  
  lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
  this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
  
  this is what the machine looks like now
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
  
  getting rid of the old control
  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
  
  this is the old electrical box
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
  
  we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg
  
  here is it mostly hooked up
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG
  
  This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
  all 3 axis
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
  
  open
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
  
  stripped
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG
  
  shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG
  
  servo plate mounted
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread dave


On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:38 -0500, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 Well - I fail at copy and paste...

Details ... details. 

Kool project. That should be a fun machine with all of it functioning. 

EMC2 with servos should nicely outperform the original. 

Thanks for sharing. 

I've got a couple of Inland servo motors around here that I picked up at
Boeing Surplus. probably 90 V and umpteen amps. 

Dave
 
 this should work better.
 
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
  
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
 to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush 
 low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs 
 peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + 
 atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the point where 
 the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and 
 seb for their work).
  
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 
 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 open 
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted 
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg
 
 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
 saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do 
 that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. 
 the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG
 
 we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into 
 this shaft.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG
 
 here is the tool chain logic working...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s
 
 here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y
 
 Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
 once a week.)
 
 sam
 
 
 On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
  sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
  
  This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
  to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
  brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
  40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
  70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
  point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
  to peter and seb for their work).
  
  Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
  
  lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
  this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
  
  this is what the machine looks like now
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
  
  getting rid of the old control
  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
  
  this is the old electrical box
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
  
  we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg
  
  here is it mostly hooked up
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG
  
  This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
  all 3 axis
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
  
  open
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
  
  stripped
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG
  
  shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG
  
  servo plate mounted
  http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg
  
  belts 

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread Gary Corlew
That is awesome!, loved the video!

-Original Message-
From: sa...@empirescreen.com [mailto:sa...@empirescreen.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:38 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

Well - I fail at copy and paste...

this should work better.

I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
 
This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it
to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8
brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be
40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good
70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the
point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank
to peter and seb for their work).
 
Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.

lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG

this is what the machine looks like now
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG

getting rid of the old control
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg

this is the old electrical box
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG

we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg

here is it mostly hooked up
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG

This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run
all 3 axis
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

open 
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG

stripped
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG

shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG

servo plate mounted 
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg

belts (B axis still needs a solution)
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg

Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the
saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to do
that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears.
the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG

we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into
this shaft.
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG

here is the tool chain logic working...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s

here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y

Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about
once a week.)

sam


On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
 I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
 
 This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting
it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8
brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be
40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good
70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the
point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank
to peter and seb for their work).
 
 Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
 
 lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
 this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
 
 this is what the machine looks like now
 http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
 
 getting rid of the old control
 http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
 
 this is the old electrical box
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
 
 we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg
 
 here is it mostly hooked up
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG
 
 This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run
all 3 axis
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 open
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG
 
 stripped
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG
 
 shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG
 
 servo plate mounted
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg
 
 belts (B axis still needs a solution)
 http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg
 
 Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the
saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-08-26 Thread samco
these servos used to be driven by a large scr drive.  They reach their maximum 
rpm at 150v and will handle much more current than we are throwing at it (they 
work out to about 1A per ft-lb

http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servotag.JPG
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC_0242.JPG

Other than a little rough around the edges and lots of dirt - they seem to work 
great.  (we did have one bad tach though)

sam



On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:38:50 -0700
 dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:38 -0500, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
  Well - I fail at copy and paste...
 
 Details ... details. 
 
 Kool project. That should be a fun machine with all of it functioning. 
 
 EMC2 with servos should nicely outperform the original. 
 
 Thanks for sharing. 
 
 I've got a couple of Inland servo motors around here that I picked up at
 Boeing Surplus. probably 90 V and umpteen amps. 
 
 Dave
  
  this should work better.
  
  I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
   
  This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting it 
  to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 
  brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 
  40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 
  70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are at the 
  point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is awesome (thank 
  to peter and seb for their work).
   
  Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
  
  lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
  this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
  
  this is what the machine looks like now
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
  
  getting rid of the old control
  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
  
  this is the old electrical box
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
  
  we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg
  
  here is it mostly hooked up
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG
  
  This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run 
  all 3 axis
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
  
  open 
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG
  
  stripped
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG
  
  shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG
  
  servo plate mounted 
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg
  
  belts (B axis still needs a solution)
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg
  
  Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the 
  saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it.  It uses split gears to 
  do that.  Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of 
  gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG
  
  we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple 
  into this shaft.
  http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG
  
  here is the tool chain logic working...
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s
  
  here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y
  
  Getting there :)  Very happy with the progress.  (I only work on it about 
  once a week.)
  
  sam
  
  
  On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500
   sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:
   I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project.  
   
   This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos.  we are converting 
   it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 
   8 brush low rpm high torque.  (with the amc drives we are using - it will 
   be 40ft-lbs peak.)  We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a 
   good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs.  We are 
   at the point where the machine is waking up.  the mesa hardware is 
   awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work).
   
   Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email.
   
   lets see if I can create a linear picture show...
   this is what the machine looked like in the 60s
   http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
   
   this is what the machine looks like now
   http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
   
   getting rid of the old control
   http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg
   
   this is the old electrical box
   http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG
   
   we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.