Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I think you need a bigger, faster, stronger mill... ;-) So, does this mean everything is now up and running on the old girl? Mark On 02/27/2012 10:49 PM, sam sokolik wrote: Random video! http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4 (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool changer. So we swap it out manually) Visions of it flying across the room - even though that has not happened yet... sam On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Thanks Andy. We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end. we emailed them and have not heard back. sam On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.comwrote: this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. Is it this one? http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18 -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Linuxcnc has performed flawlessly. It's awesome software. :-) Dave On 2/28/2012 11:25 AM, sam sokolik wrote: I still have to finalize my control panel. It is still just a piece of plexi-glass with knobs and dials stuck through it. :) I would like to make up a pendant (maybe using a arduino uno and usb) because it would be nice to be able to jog the machine from the other side. I had tweeked the ladder logic for the tool arm a bit but the problem was mainly a incorrectly adjusted flow valve. Other than that - the machine is been rock solid. I have only had 2 tool changes out of hundreds and hundreds that have stuck and that was before the valve adjustment and it hasn't failed since. (It was supposed to slow the arm down before it hit the line up pin - but it was turned down so far that the only think making the arm hit the line up pin was the momentum. So sometimes tools of radically different weights would cause it not to line up perfectly. Hydraulics - got to love them ;) After running it for quite a few months I would say that I am very very happy with it. Linuxcnc has performed flawlessly. sam On 2/28/2012 4:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: I think you need a bigger, faster, stronger mill... ;-) So, does this mean everything is now up and running on the old girl? Mark On 02/27/2012 10:49 PM, sam sokolik wrote: Random video! http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4 (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool changer. So we swap it out manually) Visions of it flying across the room - even though that has not happened yet... sam On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Thanks Andy. We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end. we emailed them and have not heard back. sam On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. Is it this one? http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18 -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Random video! http://youtu.be/U61ub6mtpH4 (we don't like the idea of the probe spinning around in the tool changer. So we swap it out manually) Visions of it flying across the room - even though that has not happened yet... sam On 06/17/2011 10:27 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Thanks Andy. We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end. we emailed them and have not heard back. sam On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. Is it this one? http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18 -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On 6/14/11, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay. Having fun calibrating the machine. the ball screws seem to be a little off of what it should be 3tpi. seems to be linear - just off. (we are talking .00017 per inch) That's pretty good accuracy, if you can really rely on it. What is the measurement envelope, and how much did it cost? Do you have a link to the product or ebay auction? -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I was calibrating it over a longer distance. 14 (2 7. inch standards stacked together.) this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-CAT-50-Zero-Sensor-type-ZS1-Spindle-Probe-/310098398900?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holdinghash=item48334e0eb4 (for $50) sam On 6/17/2011 9:18 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 6/14/11, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay. Having fun calibrating the machine. the ball screws seem to be a little off of what it should be 3tpi. seems to be linear - just off. (we are talking .00017 per inch) That's pretty good accuracy, if you can really rely on it. What is the measurement envelope, and how much did it cost? Do you have a link to the product or ebay auction? -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. Is it this one? http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18 -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Thanks Andy. We had found that also - but it seems to be a dead end. we emailed them and have not heard back. sam On 6/17/2011 9:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 June 2011 15:38, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: this is what we got.. we cannot really find any info on it. Is it this one? http://www.big-daishowa.com/product_page/product_21_s-k-fa.php#18 -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
well - bought a cheap renishaw probe knock off from ebay. Having fun calibrating the machine. the ball screws seem to be a little off of what it should be 3tpi. seems to be linear - just off. (we are talking .00017 per inch) Here we are calibrating the probe to a hole we bored. seems to be repeatable to a tenth or 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOi51ogqels Thanks Chris R for the great probing routines. http://timeguy.com/cradek/01262579508 sam On 01/17/2011 11:25 AM, Don Stanley wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15 years ago :) Hi Sam; A little off topic. I used ENCO for years. I have found www.shars.com for better selection, price and quality. Shars also seem to be weaning china when pricing and customers permit. Sorry if this is old news Don ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15 years ago :) Hi Sam; A little off topic. I used ENCO for years. I have found www.shars.com for better selection, price and quality. Shars also seem to be weaning china when pricing and customers permit. Sorry if this is old news Don ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Schweet! How much more do you have to do before you put it in production? Mark On 1/15/2011 6:51 PM, sam sokolik wrote: so - here is a video with it all coming together. This is a short gcode program that spots, drills, taps a hole. At this time emc pauses motion when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited until the ladder is done with the tool prep. (if that made sense.) The program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change sequence has to wait for the prep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the acc/dec twice as fast. sam On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool! Been watching this big girl come to life since you started posting the vids. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Sam! Mark On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) sam On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.milwrote: Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
It is actually a little easier than that. Each tool has a mechanical barcode. So I call the tool I want - it spins the chain until it reads the right number on the tool and puts it in the prepared location. You can see the rings on the tool (the reader is behind it) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.JPG The tooling is something KT produces as far as I know. Strait shank held in by a collet. We have quite a bit of tooling and if we need more we would probably make it. Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15 years ago :) sam On 01/15/2011 09:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: Sweet Sam. Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-) Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how does it track what tool is in which belt pocket? This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme. EMC2 has a file where it keep track of which tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are loaded/unloaded. Jon -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 09:54:57 am sam sokolik did opine: It is actually a little easier than that. Each tool has a mechanical barcode. So I call the tool I want - it spins the chain until it reads the right number on the tool and puts it in the prepared location. You can see the rings on the tool (the reader is behind it) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle. JPG And the ring pattern on the toolholder then is not tool orientation sensitive, neat. The tooling is something KT produces as far as I know. Strait shank held in by a collet. We have quite a bit of tooling and if we need more we would probably make it. Now - yes the 7/8 drill is bent - it was the best enco had about 15 years ago :) ;-) Thanks Sam. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Luke, I'm yer father, eh. Come over to the dark side, you hoser. -- Dave Thomas, Strange Brew -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
so - here is a video with it all coming together. This is a short gcode program that spots, drills, taps a hole. At this time emc pauses motion when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited until the ladder is done with the tool prep. (if that made sense.) The program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change sequence has to wait for the prep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the acc/dec twice as fast. sam On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool! Been watching this big girl come to life since you started posting the vids. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Sam! Mark On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) sam On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:15:43 pm sam sokolik did opine: so - here is a video with it all coming together. This is a short gcode program that spots, drills, taps a hole. At this time emc pauses motion when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited until the ladder is done with the tool prep. (if that made sense.) The program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change sequence has to wait for the prep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the acc/dec twice as fast. sam Sweet Sam. Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-) Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how does it track what tool is in which belt pocket? I'm like Mark, thanks for keeping us posted. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Welcome to Lake Wobegon, where all the men are strong, the women are pretty, and the children are above-average. -- Garrison Keillor -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
gene heskett wrote: Sweet Sam. Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-) Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how does it track what tool is in which belt pocket? This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme. EMC2 has a file where it keep track of which tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are loaded/unloaded. Jon -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:02:40 am Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Sweet Sam. Looks like the paint is being refreshed also, generally looking good except for the slightly bent 2nd drill. ;-) Since the tools are being replaced in the belt by a different tool, how does it track what tool is in which belt pocket? This is EMC2's random toolchanger scheme. EMC2 has a file where it keep track of which tool is in which pocket, and the file is updated when the tools are loaded/unloaded. Jon Thanks Jon. I wasn't aware of it as my toy has a two armed tool changer. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If God is One, what is bad? -- Charles Manson -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Thanks for the update. What type (brand) of tool-holders does that machine use? Glenn -Original Message- From: sam sokolik [mailto:sa...@empirescreen.com] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:51 PM To: mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress so - here is a video with it all coming together. This is a short gcode program that spots, drills, taps a hole. At this time emc pauses motion when the tool prep is happening - so I modified my ladder so it sends the tool prepared bit instantly but the actual tool change is inhibited until the ladder is done with the tool prep. (if that made sense.) The program is short enough that for a few of the tools the tool change sequence has to wait for the prep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk After this video was done we played with the spindle vfd and got the acc/dec twice as fast. sam On 01/10/2011 04:10 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool! Been watching this big girl come to life since you started posting the vids. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Sam! Mark On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) sam On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
These big machines running EMC2 are just very cool! Been watching this big girl come to life since you started posting the vids. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Sam! Mark On 01/09/2011 11:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) sam On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Dayum! Mark At 09:16 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: 60 rpm 1 inch tap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU 400 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty light vfd... But it works 1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) sam On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:02:59 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Pretty neat stuff Sam! What is that last operation in that video - where it looks like that big nut moving laterally? Is that part of the tool changing process? Mark At 07:40 PM 1/8/2011, you wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 9 January 2011 16:30, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: That is the spindle collet unclamp. It moves forward about .05 inch. seems to not be a problem with the encoder setup. (it really was the only sane solution..) ;) You could have machined a cup-shaped encoder disc, so that the interruptor could move up and down in the slot of the detectors… -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Looks very nicely done. Looking forward to you rigid tapping, it is very nice as a feature, having done so myself. I put a like on your video. Personally, I am working on 4th axis right now, I would say I am 80% done. That said, it is 80% only if no unexpected snags occur. If the resolver converter does not get along with the resolver, for example, I am only perhaps 10% done. i On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:40 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
60 rpm 1 inch tap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU 400 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty light vfd... But it works 1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI sam On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:40:07 -0600 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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400 RPM with a 1 tap, exciting On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: 60 rpm 1 inch tap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLcztAbgEcU 400 rpm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3PMooch1k the spindle transmission has a lot of rotational mass and a pretty light vfd... But it works 1 inch tap swapped with a 7/8 inch drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S-QfmWcsI sam On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:40:07 -0600 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Ok - have the spindle encoder mounted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvP4L_hr90 rigid tapping works - I will make a video soon. (having some tool prep issues. Master seems to pause everything while it is pre-fetching the tool) sam -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Almost done, eh? Great job so far Sam. It's been pretty neat to watch the old girl come back to life. Mark On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel) This is the encoder for the spindle.. This will allow for rigid tapping. Heating up the timing gear http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG installed http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder pully) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG sam On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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sam sokolik wrote: well - we are not 100% sure. We started with a similar sized pair of gears but could not find a belt that fit them. So we found this pair in our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They are XL and we know the we can get belts. :) We think they started life as a drive for a line printer belt. where ever other tooth was a letter. That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house. We could be wrong. I THOUGHT those things looked DAMN familiar. They are gear sensor wheels from an IBM line printer. Now, maybe they saved time by taking teeth off commercial timing pulleys, but I'd check the profile carefully to make sure it is not going to prematurely wear out the belt. Jon -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 20 December 2010 16:51, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: but I'd check the profile carefully to make sure it is not going to prematurely wear out the belt. Considering the drag load of an encoder, even prematurely might be 20 years. I suspect it is something to watch, rather than worry about. -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
it seems to track perfectly - but time will tell. :) At some point we might actually have to *gasp* buy a pair of timing gears. ;) sam On 12/20/2010 11:51 AM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: well - we are not 100% sure. We started with a similar sized pair of gears but could not find a belt that fit them. So we found this pair in our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They are XL and we know the we can get belts. :) We think they started life as a drive for a line printer belt. where ever other tooth was a letter. That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house. We could be wrong. I THOUGHT those things looked DAMN familiar. They are gear sensor wheels from an IBM line printer. Now, maybe they saved time by taking teeth off commercial timing pulleys, but I'd check the profile carefully to make sure it is not going to prematurely wear out the belt. Jon -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel) This is the encoder for the spindle.. This will allow for rigid tapping. Heating up the timing gear http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG installed http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder pully) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG sam On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Looks really great. You will love rigid tapping. i On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:56 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel) This is the encoder for the spindle.. This will allow for rigid tapping. Heating up the timing gear http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG installed http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder pully) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG sam On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Sam, Sweet - nice job Now you need a socket to fit the gear teeth so you can remove that nut when (not if) is is necessary. Stuart -- dos centavos -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I've never seen belt pulleys like that. Are the skipped teeth just to minimize machining or is there another purpose? Dave On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel) This is the encoder for the spindle.. This will allow for rigid tapping. Heating up the timing gear http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG installed http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder pully) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG sam On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
well - we are not 100% sure. We started with a similar sized pair of gears but could not find a belt that fit them. So we found this pair in our parts bin (we call 2 pole buildings and a barn our parts bin.) They are XL and we know the we can get belts. :) We think they started life as a drive for a line printer belt. where ever other tooth was a letter. That is blowing the dust off the memory wear house. We could be wrong. sam On 12/19/2010 10:25 AM, Dave wrote: I've never seen belt pulleys like that. Are the skipped teeth just to minimize machining or is there another purpose? Dave On 12/19/2010 10:56 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Last major hardware mod (except for a control panel) This is the encoder for the spindle.. This will allow for rigid tapping. Heating up the timing gear http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/timinggear.JPG installed http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG Now just need to come up with a bracket (and a belt guide on the encoder pully) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG sam On 12/12/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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well - we heated it up mainly for ease of slipping it on. it almost went on by hand. it will probably come off pretty easy. sam On 12/19/2010 10:19 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Sam, Sweet - nice job Now you need a socket to fit the gear teeth so you can remove that nut when (not if) is is necessary. Stuart -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Ok - I was going to volunteer to edm a 'box end' wrench to fit. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: well - we heated it up mainly for ease of slipping it on. it almost went on by hand. it will probably come off pretty easy. sam On 12/19/2010 10:19 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Sam, Sweet - nice job Now you need a socket to fit the gear teeth so you can remove that nut when (not if) is is necessary. Stuart -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- dos centavos -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. sam On 12/11/2010 08:38 PM, Jon Elson wrote: sam sokolik wrote: had some time to do some tuning. Getting there - I am pretty new to it. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png That is a .1 move at about 25ipm - the peak at the begining and end are the acc/decel. it peaks at .00017. It is a bit better than that - I had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the amps to maximum. :) I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a bit of machining with no issues. Getting there? I think you ARE there! peak error below 2 tenths sounds very good to me. sam ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force continuous. :) Yikes, those must be some BIG servos! You want to be awfully careful about crashing a machine that can deliver that much linear force to things. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't call 16000 Lbs linear force limiting. It sounds QUITE sufficient for such a machine. You don't expect a machine like that to be doing high speed contouring, but I suspect it can probably do anything that the available spindle speed makes practical. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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had some time to do some tuning. Getting there - I am pretty new to it. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png That is a .1 move at about 25ipm - the peak at the begining and end are the acc/decel. it peaks at .00017. It is a bit better than that - I had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the amps to maximum. :) I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a bit of machining with no issues. sam ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force continuous. :) On 12/09/2010 08:09 AM, sam sokolik wrote: fully auto! (pallet tranfer) could use a little optimization - but I am happy with it. (because it works ;)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objyMqAHUNU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYA5uEwLSTA right now I have a few buttons on a pyvcp pannel to do activate the cycles (offload pallet, swap pallets, Load pallet) and plan to activate it with M1XX codes in the future. sam On 11/14/2010 9:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Yes - first cut! I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG smallest hex. sam On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, Very neat! It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done since bringing 'er up? Mark At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: WikiLeaks The End of the Free Internet http://p.sf.net/sfu/therealnews-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
sam sokolik wrote: had some time to do some tuning. Getting there - I am pretty new to it. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/tuning.png That is a .1 move at about 25ipm - the peak at the begining and end are the acc/decel. it peaks at .00017. It is a bit better than that - I had to retune a little after I turned up the current limit on all the amps to maximum. :) I have the ferror set to .001 right now and did a bit of machining with no issues. Getting there? I think you ARE there! peak error below 2 tenths sounds very good to me. sam ps - that should give us about 16000lbs peak and 8000lbs of force continuous. :) Yikes, those must be some BIG servos! You want to be awfully careful about crashing a machine that can deliver that much linear force to things. Jon -- Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
fully auto! (pallet tranfer) could use a little optimization - but I am happy with it. (because it works ;)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objyMqAHUNU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYA5uEwLSTA right now I have a few buttons on a pyvcp pannel to do activate the cycles (offload pallet, swap pallets, Load pallet) and plan to activate it with M1XX codes in the future. sam On 11/14/2010 9:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Yes - first cut! I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG smallest hex. sam On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, Very neat! It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done since bringing 'er up? Mark At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: WikiLeaks The End of the Free Internet http://p.sf.net/sfu/therealnews-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Sam, Very neat! It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done since bringing 'er up? Mark At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
The gear seems to be made of some sort of pot metal. it cut pretty easy. It wasn't until we where done did we figure out that it was metric. (took us a bit to find a belt that would fit) 5mm pitch 9mm width. sam On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 22:16:40 -0800 Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 20:51 -0600, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) So it's beginning to earn its keep, cool. What is the material? My first impression was sintered steal and then thought it might be difficult to machine. Obviously, it turned out very well. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Sam, for some reason, I love your machine. Great job and a very impressive piece of machinery. i On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:30 AM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Yes - first cut! I forgot - this is where the timing gear is going http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/belvel.JPG smallest hex. sam On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:59:27 -0500 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, Very neat! It's been an enjoyable watch as you bring this big machine back to life. Is that the first cut(s) on a part you've done since bringing 'er up? Mark At 09:51 PM 11/13/2010, you wrote: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Great job! Looks to be diecast aluminum? Will Baden From: sa...@empirescreen.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:51:08 -0600 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Have the B axis hacked together. This is more of an indexer as it has a 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree indexes. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg (taken out of our parts machine) So far so good. The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well. I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped before the motion starts. The first movement in both videos are the home to index only. The table lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up - then re-clamps the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc Getting there!! sam On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JPG sam On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Have the B axis hacked together. This is more of an indexer as it has a 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree indexes. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg (taken out of our parts machine) So far so good. The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well. I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped before the motion starts. The first movement in both videos are the home to index only. The table lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up - then re-clamps the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc Getting there!! sam On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:28:19 pm sa...@empirescreen.com did opine: Did a little milling. Needed to cut a hex in the center of a timing pully for the encoder that will be on the spindle for rigid tapping (and maybe closed loop speed control) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eXiMoFp8 this is the hex on the end of the spindle that it will be mounted to. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JP G kinda cool picture. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1235.JP G Looking good, Sam! sam On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:40 -0600 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Have the B axis hacked together. This is more of an indexer as it has a 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree indexes. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg (taken out of our parts machine) So far so good. The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well. I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped before the motion starts. The first movement in both videos are the home to index only. The table lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up - then re-clamps the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc Getting there!! sam On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam --- --- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) It does not matter if you fall down as long as you pick up something from the floor while you get up. -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Have the B axis hacked together. This is more of an indexer as it has a 72 tooth curvic coupling that the table sit on which gives us 5 degree indexes. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvicfoot.jpg http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/curvictogether.jpg (taken out of our parts machine) So far so good. The locking rotaries that Chris added works very well. I think I need to add a little delay after the unlock switch is tripped before the motion starts. The first movement in both videos are the home to index only. The table lifts off of its curvic coupling rotates until it finds the index - rotates back to a point that will place it so the coupling will line up - then re-clamps the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLE4lzPcEo8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpz1tgTRyGc Getting there!! sam On 10/28/2010 9:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
It's just so hard to find good help these days... ;-) Mark On 10/28/2010 10:03 PM, Dave wrote: Apparently these new cameras do that.. The camera I had back when I was 20 didn't do that.. Apparently we both need different cameras. Have you also noticed that they use less fabric in clothes these days.. Cheap bastards. ;-) Dave On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam On 10/18/2010 8:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote: I still have to really tune all the axis. (velocity mode amps seem to be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1) We need to get something hooked in for the B axis. I cannot wait to try the locked rotorys that Chris added emc. (our B axis is lifted before it is rotated. It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments. ) Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out. No major problems so far. We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling and such. sam On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Schweet! What else do you have left to do Sam? Mark At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Great job. Keep up the good work. Will Baden Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:33:14 -0500 From: sa...@empirescreen.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam On 10/18/2010 8:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote: I still have to really tune all the axis. (velocity mode amps seem to be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1) We need to get something hooked in for the B axis. I cannot wait to try the locked rotorys that Chris added emc. (our B axis is lifted before it is rotated. It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments. ) Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out. No major problems so far. We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling and such. sam On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Schweet! What else do you have left to do Sam? Mark At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
;-) Blame the camera... Mark On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
looks like an awesome machine and a great way to have fun. i On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:23 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Apparently these new cameras do that.. The camera I had back when I was 20 didn't do that.. Apparently we both need different cameras. Have you also noticed that they use less fabric in clothes these days.. Cheap bastards. ;-) Dave On 10/28/2010 10:23 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Yes - that would be me. I would like to say the camera adds 40lbs. ;) sam On 10/28/2010 9:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Sweet! Izzat you in the red hat? Mark On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, sam sokolik wrote: pallet load/unload. still have to copy the ladder for the other pallet station. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDPqFXo_5w sam -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Very cool stuff. Can't wait to hear the good news that it's all up and running and in production! EMC2. It's not just your father's hobbiest software anymore! Mark On 10/18/2010 09:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote: I still have to really tune all the axis. (velocity mode amps seem to be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1) We need to get something hooked in for the B axis. I cannot wait to try the locked rotorys that Chris added emc. (our B axis is lifted before it is rotated. It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments. ) Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out. No major problems so far. We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling and such. sam On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Schweet! What else do you have left to do Sam? Mark At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Schweet! What else do you have left to do Sam? Mark At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I still have to really tune all the axis. (velocity mode amps seem to be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1) We need to get something hooked in for the B axis. I cannot wait to try the locked rotorys that Chris added emc. (our B axis is lifted before it is rotated. It sits on a coupling that gives it 5 degree increments. ) Then the pallet transferring needs to be worked out. No major problems so far. We have been fixing a lot of little issues like oiling and such. sam On 10/18/2010 5:16 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Schweet! What else do you have left to do Sam? Mark At 09:44 AM 10/17/2010, you wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
sam sokolik wrote: I still have to really tune all the axis. (velocity mode amps seem to be pretty forgiving - all I did so far was calculate the output scale and adjust the following error at a slow ipm by adjusting the amps loop gain.) (P=20 D=1 FF1 =1) If you haven't done serious tuning with Halscope, then almost certainly, you can do a LOT better with 15-30 minutes on the first axis. After that, the next axes will come in 5 minutes or so, just starting with the settings from the first one. You want to raise P and maybe add a little more D, then tweak FF1 and FF2 to pull the errors down close to zero. More P will reduce error while in the cruise phase. When you can't go any higher, then add some FF1 until the cruise error is practically zero. Then, very small amounts of FF2 can be used to reduce the error during the accel/decel ramps. Jon -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:38:34 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Things are coming together. Very happy with the results so far. There are some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical. Right now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling. Looks like some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the pressures/flow regulators are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose in the transmission). (Y ways are oiled by hydraulic fluid) We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch. (which isn't there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type pump that oils the ways and ball screws. We found the solenoid (wasn't hooked up because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch. oil started apearing on the ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will cycle that solenoid every so often. sam On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff! Looks like things are coming together for you. Damn, I wish I could play with big toyls like that or Stuart's. Mark At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote: more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component. It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a piece. Every other speed is ccw. (just testing that also) the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see it count up binary with each gear change. very happy with the results. EMC is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a certain amount of time while shifting. (plus in the future do closed loop spindle speed) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG This is the hal component so far. Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock. (it is messy - I know) component gearshift16 gearshift16; // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission. The gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence. pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed; pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command; pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added; pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd; pin out float currselgear current selected gear; pin out float nextgear next gear if gear has changed; pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place; pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while shifting; pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time; pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails; pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0; pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1; pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2; pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3; pin out bit ksol spindle lock sol; pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0; pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be changed into variable after debugging; pin in bit spnon spindle on; pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not to shift while spindle is on; pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle override is 0 - hack; pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode; pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible; // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override. // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for calculating actual commanded spindle command; // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui spindle speed.; pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting; pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor; function _ ; license GPL; ;; #include rtapi_math.h FUNCTION(_) { static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554}; static double TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000}; int Gear = 0,
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ VERY impressive! Your 3 axis helix with you in the picture gives some scale to the machine, WOW! Jon -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Seconded. Amazing machine and progress. i On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ VERY impressive! Your 3 axis helix with you in the picture gives some scale to the machine, WOW! Jon -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download new Adobe(R) Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 The new Adobe(R) Flex(R) 4 and Flash(R) Builder(TM) 4 (formerly Flex(R) Builder(TM)) enable the development of rich applications that run across multiple browsers and platforms. Download your free trials today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Great job. Looks like it is coming right along. Will Baden From: sa...@empirescreen.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:44:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress I think we have the spindle/tool change working well. Next is pallet change and B axis. This video shows it find the tool - rapid to the g30 home tool change position - then spindle orient and then transfer the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KplU8hkI0AQ sam On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:38:34 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Things are coming together. Very happy with the results so far. There are some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical. Right now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling. Looks like some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the pressures/flow regulators are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose in the transmission). (Y ways are oiled by hydraulic fluid) We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch. (which isn't there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type pump that oils the ways and ball screws. We found the solenoid (wasn't hooked up because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch. oil started apearing on the ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will cycle that solenoid every so often. sam On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff! Looks like things are coming together for you. Damn, I wish I could play with big toyls like that or Stuart's. Mark At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote: more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component. It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a piece. Every other speed is ccw. (just testing that also) the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see it count up binary with each gear change. very happy with the results. EMC is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a certain amount of time while shifting. (plus in the future do closed loop spindle speed) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG This is the hal component so far. Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock. (it is messy - I know) component gearshift16 gearshift16; // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission. The gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence. pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed; pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command; pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added; pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd; pin out float currselgear current selected gear; pin out float nextgear next gear if gear has changed; pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place; pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while shifting; pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time; pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails; pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0; pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1; pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2; pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3; pin out bit ksol spindle lock sol; pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0; pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be changed into variable after debugging; pin in bit spnon spindle on; pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not to shift while spindle is on; pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle override is 0 - hack; pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode; pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible; // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override. // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for calculating actual commanded spindle command; // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui spindle speed.; pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting; pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor; function _ ; license GPL
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Sam, No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff! Looks like things are coming together for you. Damn, I wish I could play with big toyls like that or Stuart's. Mark At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote: more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component. It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a piece. Every other speed is ccw. (just testing that also) the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see it count up binary with each gear change. very happy with the results. EMC is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a certain amount of time while shifting. (plus in the future do closed loop spindle speed) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG This is the hal component so far. Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock. (it is messy - I know) component gearshift16 gearshift16; // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission. The gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence. pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed; pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command; pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added; pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd; pin out float currselgear current selected gear; pin out float nextgear next gear if gear has changed; pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place; pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while shifting; pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time; pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails; pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0; pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1; pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2; pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3; pin out bit ksol spindle lock sol; pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0; pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be changed into variable after debugging; pin in bit spnon spindle on; pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not to shift while spindle is on; pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle override is 0 - hack; pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode; pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible; // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override. // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for calculating actual commanded spindle command; // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui spindle speed.; pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting; pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor; function _ ; license GPL; ;; #include rtapi_math.h FUNCTION(_) { static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554}; static double TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000}; int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0; currgearint = currselgear; //enable and shift into first gear - gear 0 if(enable==true enabled==false) { spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm; if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30) spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30)) { shpsol=true; sc1sol=false; sasol=false; sc2sol=false; sssol=false; ksol=false; if(capturedraw==0) capturedraw=rawcountsin; if((capturedraw+shiftencodercounts)rawcountsin oneps==true) { spnmotorspeed = 0; enabled = true; capturedraw=0; currselgear=0; } } } //if enable goes false if(enable==false) { ksol=false; shpsol=false; enabled=false; capturedraw=0; spnmotorspeed = 0; } //check what gear should be if(enabled==true spnbrake == false spindlelock==false) { for (gearloop = 1 ; gearloop = 16 ; gearloop++) { if(fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)=TOPRPM[gearloop] fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)TOPRPM[gearloop-1]) {
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Things are coming together. Very happy with the results so far. There are some little issues that we have been running into - mostly mechanical. Right now we are trying to figure out why the Y axis ways are not oiling. Looks like some of the channels are plugged - plus some of the pressures/flow regulators are not set right (and oiler fitting being loose in the transmission). (Y ways are oiled by hydraulic fluid) We figured out that the x/z lubing is done with the z clutch. (which isn't there any more) but the solenoid is still. It activates a bijor(sp) type pump that oils the ways and ball screws. We found the solenoid (wasn't hooked up because we didn't need it) and cycled it a bunch. oil started apearing on the ways - yay!. So I need to setup a timer in ladder that will cycle that solenoid every so often. sam On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:28:30 -0400 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: Sam, No goofing around allowed, this is serious stuff! Looks like things are coming together for you. Damn, I wish I could play with big toyls like that or Stuart's. Mark At 08:24 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote: more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component. It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a piece. Every other speed is ccw. (just testing that also) the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see it count up binary with each gear change. very happy with the results. EMC is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a certain amount of time while shifting. (plus in the future do closed loop spindle speed) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG This is the hal component so far. Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock. (it is messy - I know) component gearshift16 gearshift16; // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission. The gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence. pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed; pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command; pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added; pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd; pin out float currselgear current selected gear; pin out float nextgear next gear if gear has changed; pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place; pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while shifting; pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time; pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails; pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0; pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1; pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2; pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3; pin out bit ksol spindle lock sol; pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0; pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be changed into variable after debugging; pin in bit spnon spindle on; pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not to shift while spindle is on; pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle override is 0 - hack; pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode; pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible; // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override. // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for calculating actual commanded spindle command; // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui spindle speed.; pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting; pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor; function _ ; license GPL; ;; #include rtapi_math.h FUNCTION(_) { static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554}; static double TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000}; int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0; currgearint = currselgear; //enable and shift into first gear - gear 0 if(enable==true enabled==false) { spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm; if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30) spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30)) { shpsol=true; sc1sol=false; sasol=false;
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
more goofing around. got a good start on the spindle hal component. It seems to shift correctly (16 speed gearbox) this video runs through all the gears for about 10 seconds a piece. Every other speed is ccw. (just testing that also) the bottom 4 of the top 4 black ssr's control the 4 shift rails - you can see it count up binary with each gear change. very happy with the results. EMC is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22dWg3GbywE I am using an encoder on the spindle to make sure the drive train spins for a certain amount of time while shifting. (plus in the future do closed loop spindle speed) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/Spindlemotorenc.JPG This is the hal component so far. Still have to add 'at speed' and keylock. (it is messy - I know) component gearshift16 gearshift16; // this is a component for a KT 16 speed spindle transmission. The gearbox has 4 shift rails (16 combinations in binary) and a lock seqence. pin in float spnmotorspeedfb actual spindle motor speed; pin in float cmdspnspeed spindle command from emc - hooked to motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps - unmolested spindle command; pin in float cmdspnwithoverride this is hooked to the motion.spindle-speed-out to get spindle speed with overrride added; pin out float spnmotorspeed spindle speed command to vfd; pin out float currselgear current selected gear; pin out float nextgear next gear if gear has changed; pin in float shiftrpm rpm for which the gear shifting takes place; pin in float shiftencodercounts number of encoder counts to wait while shifting; pin in signed rawcountsin raw counts for counting shifting time; pin out bit shpsol pressure enable for rails; pin out bit sc1sol shift rail bit 0; pin out bit sasol shift rail bit 1; pin out bit sc2sol shift rail bit 2; pin out bit sssol shift rail bit 3; pin out bit ksol spindle lock sol; pin in bit enable enable gearshift componant and shift into gear 0; pin out bit enabled transission has been shifted into gear 0 - should be changed into variable after debugging; pin in bit spnon spindle on; pin out bit spnonflag flag set when spindle is first turned on so to know not to shift while spindle is on; pin in bit spnbrake check to see if spindle is actually off or the spindle override is 0 - hack; pin in bit spindlelock spindle lock activate; pin out float shifting flag to know when the comp is in shift mode; pin out bit shift flag to tell the transmission to shift when next possible; // this didn't work - jepler added rps pin that is unmolested by override. // pin in float haluiso hooked to spindle override pin in halui for calculating actual commanded spindle command; // pin out float actspnspeed calculated commanded spindle speed based on halui spindle speed.; pin out float capturedraw inital spindle raw counts for shifting; pin in bit oneps shift rail pressure sensor; function _ ; license GPL; ;; #include rtapi_math.h FUNCTION(_) { static double RATIO[16]={.0310168, .0350028, .0397274, .0444520, .0804513, .0901584, .1025972, .1146178, .2073476, .2322251, .2640781, .2955130, .5356125, .5998969, .6817628, .7662554}; static double TOPRPM[17]={0,60,70,80,90,150,170,190,210,380,420,480,540,1930,2160,2460,3000}; int Gear = 0, gearloop = 0, currgearint = 0; currgearint = currselgear; //enable and shift into first gear - gear 0 if(enable==true enabled==false) { spnmotorspeed = shiftrpm; if(spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm+30) spnmotorspeedfb(shiftrpm-30)) { shpsol=true; sc1sol=false; sasol=false; sc2sol=false; sssol=false; ksol=false; if(capturedraw==0) capturedraw=rawcountsin; if((capturedraw+shiftencodercounts)rawcountsin oneps==true) { spnmotorspeed = 0; enabled = true; capturedraw=0; currselgear=0; } } } //if enable goes false if(enable==false) { ksol=false; shpsol=false; enabled=false; capturedraw=0; spnmotorspeed = 0; } //check what gear should be if(enabled==true spnbrake == false spindlelock==false) { for (gearloop = 1 ; gearloop = 16 ; gearloop++) { if(fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)=TOPRPM[gearloop] fabs(cmdspnspeed*60)TOPRPM[gearloop-1]) { nextgear=gearloop-1; if(nextgear != currselgear){shift=true;}else{shift=false;} } } } //spindle lock logic
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Worked a bit on the tool changer arm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxW8TKBGWU sam On 10/5/2010 10:15 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 3 axis moving! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw sam On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.comwrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Very cool! That's definitely a good sized machine! mark On 10/06/2010 09:17 AM, sam sokolik wrote: Worked a bit on the tool changer arm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxW8TKBGWU sam On 10/5/2010 10:15 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 3 axis moving! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw sam On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
3 axis moving! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw sam On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Very neat! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: 3 axis moving! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHL_KlUdqw sam On 9/6/2010 11:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
That thing's a beast! Mark On 09/06/2010 01:28 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: Looks REALLY impressive and BIG! - Igor On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.comwrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. Don't think the previous
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Looks REALLY impressive and BIG! - Igor On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Very cool. What are you going to cut on that beast or do you know yet? By the way, re: vintage 60s picture, do you wear a tie under your lab coat when you operate it? :-) -Tom On Sep 6, 2010, at 12:38 PM, sam sokolik wrote: 2 axis moving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU_O_Z7Vv8c sam On 8/26/2010 4:38 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution)
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
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[Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... YouTube - Kearney and Trecker tool chain logic working in EMC2. Mechanically barcoded tools here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis YouTube - Kearney and Trecker first closed loop movement with EMC2. Getting there Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week. sam -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears.
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
Looks like an awesome machine and a very fun project, but most of your picture URLs are bad. i On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. Don't think the previous owner ever did this as we had to take a good .040 off the washer. The washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... YouTube - Kearney and Trecker tool chain logic working in EMC2. Mechanically barcoded tools here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis YouTube - Kearney and Trecker first closed loop movement with EMC2. Getting there Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week. sam -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
I haven't written much on the emc-users list but I do have to have say nice job on the progress. I enjoyed the pics and videos. Makes me want to dive back into the project that I have started. Will From: sa...@empirescreen.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:38:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:38 -0500, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... Details ... details. Kool project. That should be a fun machine with all of it functioning. EMC2 with servos should nicely outperform the original. Thanks for sharing. I've got a couple of Inland servo motors around here that I picked up at Boeing Surplus. probably 90 V and umpteen amps. Dave this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
That is awesome!, loved the video! -Original Message- From: sa...@empirescreen.com [mailto:sa...@empirescreen.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:38 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress Well - I fail at copy and paste... this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...n/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...axis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...s/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...is/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ervo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...rvo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do
Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress
these servos used to be driven by a large scr drive. They reach their maximum rpm at 150v and will handle much more current than we are throwing at it (they work out to about 1A per ft-lb http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servotag.JPG http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC_0242.JPG Other than a little rough around the edges and lots of dirt - they seem to work great. (we did have one bad tach though) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:38:50 -0700 dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:38 -0500, sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Well - I fail at copy and paste... Details ... details. Kool project. That should be a fun machine with all of it functioning. EMC2 with servos should nicely outperform the original. Thanks for sharing. I've got a couple of Inland servo motors around here that I picked up at Boeing Surplus. probably 90 V and umpteen amps. Dave this should work better. I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/moreelec.jpg here is it mostly hooked up http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mostio.JPG This is the x,z,b gearbox - the old control used 1 hydraulic servo to run all 3 axis http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG open http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/start.JPG stripped http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/stripped.JPG shafts extended out so we can hook the servos up. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/xaxis/3shafts.JPG servo plate mounted http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/x-zservo_mount.jpg belts (B axis still needs a solution) http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/belts.jpeg Because we are still using the z axis drive train that goes up though the saddle - we needed to get the backlash out of it. It uses split gears to do that. Grinding 1 washer thinner takes the backlash out of 5 sets of gears. the washer is the spacer between the 2 lower small gears. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/zaxis/gears.JPG we still have to mount the y axis servo. - The plan is to direct couple into this shaft. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yaxis/yaxisshaft.JPG here is the tool chain logic working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nuRea6615s here is the first closed loop movement with the x axis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgOqEz5Tk-Y Getting there :) Very happy with the progress. (I only work on it about once a week.) sam On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:27:29 -0500 sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: I thought I would give an update on our ongoing project. This is a 60's vintage NC that used hydraulic servos. we are converting it to EMC2 using not quite as old Inland servos. (80's vintage) they are 8 brush low rpm high torque. (with the amc drives we are using - it will be 40ft-lbs peak.) We are using 2 mesa 5i20 boards as we are needing a good 70+ i/o + atleast 7 encoder counters and 5 +/-10v outputs. We are at the point where the machine is waking up. the mesa hardware is awesome (thank to peter and seb for their work). Be sure to watch the 2 videos at the end of this email. lets see if I can create a linear picture show... this is what the machine looked like in the 60s http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG this is what the machine looks like now http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG getting rid of the old control http://www.electronicsam.com/images/control.jpg this is the old electrical box http://electronicsam.com/images/Kand...ctricalbox.JPG we welded 2 of the same boxes together for new electronics.