Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

We're currently running Exchange 2003 and I hope to be upgrading to Exchange 
2010 in a few months time.

Right now we use Sunbelt's Vipre for Exchange.  The attachment blocking and 
Cloudmark antispam work great, the antivirus I'm a bit less keen on as it seems 
to be resource heavy.

The renewal is up in a month or so, so I'm looking at options.

I need to get some pricing on Antigen/Forefront which I'm keen on finding out 
more about as I figure nobody will be able to integrate Exchange a/v quite like 
Microsoft, plus I believe it also has the Cloudmark antispam engine.

My question is who else should I look at?

I should stress that due to perimeter filtering we see practically no viruses 
at our Exchange server, my main focus is on top quality antispam filtering and 
being able to block attachments (exe's etc.) and being able to scan the content 
of incoming Office/PDF attachments for keywords would be very useful.

Any advice appreciated, thanks in advance.

Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

[Paul Hutchings]

We're on Exchange 2003 and I have some questions about recipient
policies, something I've never been entirely comfortable with as I've
never been sure at what point clicking OK/Apply will go off and
generate/alter the email addresses of everyone in our company.

 

So, I have a "Default Policy" with a filter of "(mailnickname=*)" which
has and X400 type, and an SMTP type of @ourdomain.com

 

If I create a new user called Joe Bloggs, we set the alias to Joe Bloggs
(it default to JoeBloggs) and the account is created with an SMTP
address of "JoeBloggsourdomain.com" which we then have to manually
change to joe.bloggsourdomain.com.

 

Can I set policies to:

 

a)  Default the Exchange alias to Joe Bloggs rather than JoeBloggs

b)  Default the SMTP address generated to
joe.bloggsourdomain.com without Exchange modifying/generating
additional addresses for any existing accounts?

Thanks,

Paul


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re: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

[Paul Hutchings]

As a follow-up, I would be interested to know how many of you are actually 
running Antivirus/Antispam on your Exchange servers?

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable relying on client a/v and Outlooks built in 
security, however when you look at the features offered by the likes of 
Google/Postini it's pretty much more for less money than doing it yourself, so 
it's something I may look into.

Appreciate any thoughts.

re: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

Please ignore the copy of this message I wrongly sent in reply to my other 
thread.

As a follow-up, I would be interested to know how many of you are actually 
running Antivirus/Antispam on your Exchange servers? 

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable relying on client a/v and Outlooks built in 
security, however when you look at the features offered by the likes of 
Google/Postini it's pretty much more for less money than doing it yourself, so 
it's something I may look into. 

Appreciate any thoughts.

RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

[Paul Hutchings]

Neat freak I guess.

 

I did some scouring and using
"%rAa%rBb%rCc%rDd%rEe%rFf%rGg%rHh%rIi%rJj%rKk%rLl%rMm%rNn%rOo%rPp%rQq%rR
r%rss%rtt%ruu%rvv%rww%rxx%ryy%rzz%g...@mira.co.uk" in the recipient
policy sets the email address to all lower case first.l...@domain which
is good.

 

Next thing, we have two sites (back from the good old days of 5.5) and
from when we migrated I have two recipient policies of priority
"Highest" that were auto-generated.  Each has a filter that means it
applies to one site i.e. 

 

"(&(mailNickname=*)(legacyExchangeDN=/O=ORGNAME/OU=Sitename/*))"

 

As well as SMTP address types each has an X400 of

 

"C=GB;a= ;p=ORGNAME;o=SiteName;"

 

Where Sitename is obviously the name of the site that the filter relates
to.

 

I've read this http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/04/20/403953.aspx
and I'm not sure if I can simply delete these additional policies or
not?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2010 04:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

[a] Not by default. And why do you care about the alias/mailNickName?

 

[b] Yes. %g...@ourdomain.com <mailto:%25g.%...@ourdomain.com> . Exchange
will not reapply a policy unless you tell it to.

 

If you really care about the fine details of account information, you
should write yourself a script or application to do your user
provisioning. That is the supported method to ensure that non-default
values are applied.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

We're on Exchange 2003 and I have some questions about recipient
policies, something I've never been entirely comfortable with as I've
never been sure at what point clicking OK/Apply will go off and
generate/alter the email addresses of everyone in our company.

 

So, I have a "Default Policy" with a filter of "(mailnickname=*)" which
has and X400 type, and an SMTP type of @ourdomain.com

 

If I create a new user called Joe Bloggs, we set the alias to Joe Bloggs
(it default to JoeBloggs) and the account is created with an SMTP
address of "JoeBloggsourdomain.com" which we then have to manually
change to joe.bloggsourdomain.com.

 

Can I set policies to:

 

a)  Default the Exchange alias to Joe Bloggs rather than JoeBloggs

b)  Default the SMTP address generated to
joe.bloggsourdomain.com without Exchange modifying/generating
additional addresses for any existing accounts?

Thanks,

Paul


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RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Peter.  We don't have an enterprise agreement but we do have a volume 
agreement with Microsoft.  I need to check tomorrow how they license Forefront 
as the pricing we have is for the remainder of our agreement which is several 
years whilst personally I don't like committing us to any antivirus product for 
more than a year at a time - with antivirus in particular vendors seem to vary 
from year to year.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2010 07:42
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

Hi Paul

If you have an Enterprise agreement type deal with MS investigate FOPE for AV 
and SPAM. Just moved over myself. 

With regards to the recipient policies they won't apply unless you tell them to 
as Michael said. Also if you build the policy it won't change anything that's 
already correctly set IIRC. I've also left the default one alone and created 
another one. 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 14 August 2010 19:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: re: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

As a follow-up, I would be interested to know how many of you are actually 
running Antivirus/Antispam on your Exchange servers?

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable relying on client a/v and Outlooks built in 
security, however when you look at the features offered by the likes of 
Google/Postini it's pretty much more for less money than doing it yourself, so 
it's something I may look into.

Appreciate any thoughts.


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RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Michael - any ramifications?  I've never entirely understood X400
but that's the obvious difference between the policies for the two
sites.

 

I guess I don't understand why users in Site B should get an X400
address that refers to Site A?

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 02:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

Yes, you can delete the undesired policies.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

Neat freak I guess.

 

I did some scouring and using
"%rAa%rBb%rCc%rDd%rEe%rFf%rGg%rHh%rIi%rJj%rKk%rLl%rMm%rNn%rOo%rPp%rQq%rR
r%rss%rtt%ruu%rvv%rww%rxx%ryy%rzz%g...@mira.co.uk" in the recipient
policy sets the email address to all lower case first.l...@domain which
is good.

 

Next thing, we have two sites (back from the good old days of 5.5) and
from when we migrated I have two recipient policies of priority
"Highest" that were auto-generated.  Each has a filter that means it
applies to one site i.e. 

 

"(&(mailNickname=*)(legacyExchangeDN=/O=ORGNAME/OU=Sitename/*))"

 

As well as SMTP address types each has an X400 of

 

"C=GB;a= ;p=ORGNAME;o=SiteName;"

 

Where Sitename is obviously the name of the site that the filter relates
to.

 

I've read this http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/04/20/403953.aspx
and I'm not sure if I can simply delete these additional policies or
not?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2010 04:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

[a] Not by default. And why do you care about the alias/mailNickName?

 

[b] Yes. %g...@ourdomain.com <mailto:%25g.%...@ourdomain.com> . Exchange
will not reapply a policy unless you tell it to.

 

If you really care about the fine details of account information, you
should write yourself a script or application to do your user
provisioning. That is the supported method to ensure that non-default
values are applied.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Recipient Policy & Default SMTP Address?

 

We're on Exchange 2003 and I have some questions about recipient
policies, something I've never been entirely comfortable with as I've
never been sure at what point clicking OK/Apply will go off and
generate/alter the email addresses of everyone in our company.

 

So, I have a "Default Policy" with a filter of "(mailnickname=*)" which
has and X400 type, and an SMTP type of @ourdomain.com

 

If I create a new user called Joe Bloggs, we set the alias to Joe Bloggs
(it default to JoeBloggs) and the account is created with an SMTP
address of "JoeBloggsourdomain.com" which we then have to manually
change to joe.bloggsourdomain.com.

 

Can I set policies to:

 

a)  Default the Exchange alias to Joe Bloggs rather than JoeBloggs

b)  Default the SMTP address generated to
joe.bloggsourdomain.com without Exchange modifying/generating
additional addresses for any existing accounts?

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

As in Clearswift?  I'm waiting for a key to evaluate their product.

Are you using the appliance or the product that appears to install on
Windows?  They seem to do two and the one that site on Windows sounds
like it's being phased out in favour of the appliance, but that doesn't
appear to hook into Exchange, it's an edge scanner?

Is anyone using Symantec Brightmail  Gateway or Symantec Mail Security
for Exchange as both of those look very good (on paper)?

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Woohoo another Mailsweeper user on the list :-)

John 

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

+1

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We use Mailsweeper on the Gateway, two Mailsweeper Edge servers block
virus's and also does spam blocking the inernally deployed Mailsweeper
servers block on file type, i.e exe's, multimedia files, large emails
etc


John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 14 August 2010 15:05
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We're currently running Exchange 2003 and I hope to be upgrading to
Exchange 2010 in a few months time.

Right now we use Sunbelt's Vipre for Exchange.  The attachment blocking
and Cloudmark antispam work great, the antivirus I'm a bit less keen on
as it seems to be resource heavy.

The renewal is up in a month or so, so I'm looking at options.

I need to get some pricing on Antigen/Forefront which I'm keen on
finding out more about as I figure nobody will be able to integrate
Exchange a/v quite like Microsoft, plus I believe it also has the
Cloudmark antispam engine.

My question is who else should I look at?

I should stress that due to perimeter filtering we see practically no
viruses at our Exchange server, my main focus is on top quality antispam
filtering and being able to block attachments (exe's etc.) and being
able to scan the content of incoming Office/PDF attachments for keywords
would be very useful.

Any advice appreciated, thanks in advance.

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RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

Happy to stay on list as it may benefit others.  So presumably the edge
server is a "proper" virtual appliance and the MSW is just the software
installed on a Windows based VM rather than a self-contained virtual
appliance?

I guess I'll find out when I speak to them but ideally I'd like to
protect at the perimeter and still have a bit of a safety net internally
(antivirus/attachment blocking) without having to spend $$$ twice on two
different products.

>From their website they seem to be trying to get people to transition to
the virtual edge appliance, which seems to be what most folks are
offering, but as per my original post that still leaves a bit of a gap
if (big if) someone brings something inside the business.

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift - correct.

We have MSW 5.3 on VM Machines and the Edge Server (soft appliance)on
physical hardware.

If you want to take it off list, feel free to email me.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift?  I'm waiting for a key to evaluate their product.

Are you using the appliance or the product that appears to install on
Windows?  They seem to do two and the one that site on Windows sounds
like it's being phased out in favour of the appliance, but that doesn't
appear to hook into Exchange, it's an edge scanner?

Is anyone using Symantec Brightmail  Gateway or Symantec Mail Security
for Exchange as both of those look very good (on paper)?

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Woohoo another Mailsweeper user on the list :-)

John 

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

+1

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We use Mailsweeper on the Gateway, two Mailsweeper Edge servers block
virus's and also does spam blocking the inernally deployed Mailsweeper
servers block on file type, i.e exe's, multimedia files, large emails
etc


John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 14 August 2010 15:05
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We're currently running Exchange 2003 and I hope to be upgrading to
Exchange 2010 in a few months time.

Right now we use Sunbelt's Vipre for Exchange.  The attachment blocking
and Cloudmark antispam work great, the antivirus I'm a bit less keen on
as it seems to be resource heavy.

The renewal is up in a month or so, so I'm looking at options.

I need to get some pricing on Antigen/Forefront which I'm keen on
finding out more about as I figure nobody will be able to integrate
Exchange a/v quite like Microsoft, plus I believe it also has the
Cloudmark antispam engine.

My question is who else should I look at?

I should stress that due to perimeter filtering we see practically no
viruses at our Exchange server, my main focus is on top quality antispam
filtering and being able to block attachments (exe's etc.) and being
able to scan the content of incoming Office/PDF attachments for keywords
would be very useful.

Any advice appreciated, thanks in advance.

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RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks, that's kind of how I understood the "flow" from what I've read,
just their website is a little confusing about what products are
available to new customers vs. available to existing customers and so on
(for example I don't see MSW for Exchange listed on the products tab).

AIUI quarantine of stuff like spam is done "on box" and the user is sent
a digest and can release/manage their own settings through a web
interface?

I think this will become clearer once I have access to the evaluation
and some full manuals.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

On list then :-)
The Edge server is a Linux box running the soft appliance software built
from a ISO image.
We have enabled Kaspersky AV on this box and then I MSW to catch any EXE
files that have slipped passed the AV filter.

They also do Mailsweeper for Exchange(I've not looked at this) but i
believe its managable from the Mailsweeper for SMTP MMC Console in terms
of policy etc. Mailsweeper for Exchange maybe free if you have support
for MSW (You'd have to check that)


Internet > Firewall > Edge server > Internal Mailsweeper server >
Exchange > End user

John

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Happy to stay on list as it may benefit others.  So presumably the edge
server is a "proper" virtual appliance and the MSW is just the software
installed on a Windows based VM rather than a self-contained virtual
appliance?

I guess I'll find out when I speak to them but ideally I'd like to
protect at the perimeter and still have a bit of a safety net internally
(antivirus/attachment blocking) without having to spend $$$ twice on two
different products.

>From their website they seem to be trying to get people to transition to
the virtual edge appliance, which seems to be what most folks are
offering, but as per my original post that still leaves a bit of a gap
if (big if) someone brings something inside the business.

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift - correct.

We have MSW 5.3 on VM Machines and the Edge Server (soft appliance)on
physical hardware.

If you want to take it off list, feel free to email me.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift?  I'm waiting for a key to evaluate their product.

Are you using the appliance or the product that appears to install on
Windows?  They seem to do two and the one that site on Windows sounds
like it's being phased out in favour of the appliance, but that doesn't
appear to hook into Exchange, it's an edge scanner?

Is anyone using Symantec Brightmail  Gateway or Symantec Mail Security
for Exchange as both of those look very good (on paper)?

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Woohoo another Mailsweeper user on the list :-)

John 

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

+1

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We use Mailsweeper on the Gateway, two Mailsweeper Edge servers block
virus's and also does spam blocking the inernally deployed Mailsweeper
servers block on file type, i.e exe's, multimedia files, large emails
etc


John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 14 August 2010 15:05
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

We're currently running Exchange 2003 and I hope to be upgrading to
Exchange 2010 in a few months time.

Right now we use Sunbelt's Vipre for Exchange.  The attachment blocking
and Cloudmark antispam work great, the antivirus I'm a bit less keen on
as it seems to be resource heavy.

The renewal is up in a month or so, so I'm looking at options.

I need to get some pricing on Antigen/Forefront which I'm keen on
finding out more about as I figure nobody will be able to integrate
Exchange a/v quite like Microsoft, plus I believe it also has the
Cloudmark antispam 

RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

Test track, cool place :-)

Thanks for the info - I'll see what sort of pricing our VAR comes back
with and maybe have a chat with Clearswift.  I'm sure it will be more
than we're currently paying however it's a question of how much, and
what degree of additional functionality it may offer.

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

I found this bit on the site
http://www.clearswift.com/news/press-releases/clearswift-announces-enhan
ced-data-loss-prevention-for-internal-e-mail

AIUI ?
We drop the Spam at the Edge server and dont inform the users of Spam.
You can certainly setup PMM(Personal Message Manager) from within the
MSW SMTP Software and I think you can also do it from the Edge server.
Its not something I've looked into.

John
PS Mira as in showers or Mira as in test track type place?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Thanks, that's kind of how I understood the "flow" from what I've read,
just their website is a little confusing about what products are
available to new customers vs. available to existing customers and so on
(for example I don't see MSW for Exchange listed on the products tab).

AIUI quarantine of stuff like spam is done "on box" and the user is sent
a digest and can release/manage their own settings through a web
interface?

I think this will become clearer once I have access to the evaluation
and some full manuals.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

On list then :-)
The Edge server is a Linux box running the soft appliance software built
from a ISO image.
We have enabled Kaspersky AV on this box and then I MSW to catch any EXE
files that have slipped passed the AV filter.

They also do Mailsweeper for Exchange(I've not looked at this) but i
believe its managable from the Mailsweeper for SMTP MMC Console in terms
of policy etc. Mailsweeper for Exchange maybe free if you have support
for MSW (You'd have to check that)


Internet > Firewall > Edge server > Internal Mailsweeper server >
Exchange > End user

John

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Happy to stay on list as it may benefit others.  So presumably the edge
server is a "proper" virtual appliance and the MSW is just the software
installed on a Windows based VM rather than a self-contained virtual
appliance?

I guess I'll find out when I speak to them but ideally I'd like to
protect at the perimeter and still have a bit of a safety net internally
(antivirus/attachment blocking) without having to spend $$$ twice on two
different products.

>From their website they seem to be trying to get people to transition to
the virtual edge appliance, which seems to be what most folks are
offering, but as per my original post that still leaves a bit of a gap
if (big if) someone brings something inside the business.

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift - correct.

We have MSW 5.3 on VM Machines and the Edge Server (soft appliance)on
physical hardware.

If you want to take it off list, feel free to email me.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

As in Clearswift?  I'm waiting for a key to evaluate their product.

Are you using the appliance or the product that appears to install on
Windows?  They seem to do two and the one that site on Windows sounds
like it's being phased out in favour of the appliance, but that doesn't
appear to hook into Exchange, it's an edge scanner?

Is anyone using Symantec Brightmail  Gateway or Symantec Mail Security
for Exchange as both of those look very good (on paper)?

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Woohoo another Mailsweeper user on the list :-)

John 

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 16 August 2010 13:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

+1

-Original Message-
From:

RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

Worth knowing thanks, they ring a bell but I know we deal with someone
who deals with Clearswift.

To be honest Sunbelt has outstanding Antispam (Cloudmark is superb) but
the antivirus is a little hit and miss in that it seems to be a real
performance hog, not sure if Exchange 2003 and it being a VM contribute
to that.

What we might be wanting to look at in the near future is the ability to
say:

"If the sender is @abc.com and the message contains a PDF or Office
document and the document contains the words/phrase XYZ then "

And most products I know of won't do that, they'll block by file type,
they'll filter on subject/message body, but they won't inspect
attachment content which I believe Clearswift and Brightmail/Symantec
Mail Security can.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 15:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Sounds an interesting place to be.

We use Foursys as our reseller. So far so good.
What functionality do you lack with the current product that you would
like with a new product? 

john
-----Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Test track, cool place :-)

Thanks for the info - I'll see what sort of pricing our VAR comes back
with and maybe have a chat with Clearswift.  I'm sure it will be more
than we're currently paying however it's a question of how much, and
what degree of additional functionality it may offer.

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

I found this bit on the site
http://www.clearswift.com/news/press-releases/clearswift-announces-enhan
ced-data-loss-prevention-for-internal-e-mail

AIUI ?
We drop the Spam at the Edge server and dont inform the users of Spam.
You can certainly setup PMM(Personal Message Manager) from within the
MSW SMTP Software and I think you can also do it from the Edge server.
Its not something I've looked into.

John
PS Mira as in showers or Mira as in test track type place?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Thanks, that's kind of how I understood the "flow" from what I've read,
just their website is a little confusing about what products are
available to new customers vs. available to existing customers and so on
(for example I don't see MSW for Exchange listed on the products tab).

AIUI quarantine of stuff like spam is done "on box" and the user is sent
a digest and can release/manage their own settings through a web
interface?

I think this will become clearer once I have access to the evaluation
and some full manuals.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

On list then :-)
The Edge server is a Linux box running the soft appliance software built
from a ISO image.
We have enabled Kaspersky AV on this box and then I MSW to catch any EXE
files that have slipped passed the AV filter.

They also do Mailsweeper for Exchange(I've not looked at this) but i
believe its managable from the Mailsweeper for SMTP MMC Console in terms
of policy etc. Mailsweeper for Exchange maybe free if you have support
for MSW (You'd have to check that)


Internet > Firewall > Edge server > Internal Mailsweeper server >
Exchange > End user

John

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Happy to stay on list as it may benefit others.  So presumably the edge
server is a "proper" virtual appliance and the MSW is just the software
installed on a Windows based VM rather than a self-contained virtual
appliance?

I guess I'll find out when I speak to them but ideally I'd like to
protect at the perimeter and still have a bit of a safety net internally
(antivirus/attachment blocking) without having to spend $$$ twice on two
different products.

>From their website they seem to be trying to get people to transition to
the virtual edge appliance, which seems to be what most folks are
offering, but as per my original post that still leaves a bit of a gap
if (big if) someone brings something inside the business.

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus &am

Removing Unresolved SIDs on Email Accounts?

[Paul Hutchings]

As subject really, people leave, their account gets deleted yet it still
shows as a SID on any mailboxes they had access to.

 

I've used pfdavadmin to check folder level DACLs but I don't know of a
way to check the AD account for invalid SIDs - anyone?

 

Thanks,

Paul


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RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

[Paul Hutchings]

I'm not sure if the fact we're running exchange in a VM means it's a
little CPU starved (Exchange isn't especially CPU hungry in my
experience) but there are periods where various Vipre related services
grab the CPU for extended periods of time.

I've had some Clearswift pricing today and I'm going to evaluate their
gateway product.  Even speaking to one of their techs today I came away
less than clear about where Clearswift stand with Exchange based
antivirus - really does seem that all their focus is on the edge
appliance.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 August 2010 00:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

I do not know about the spam component, but I've not seen Vipre be a
resource hog. Every time I've been able to investigate a complaint, as
it
was happening, it has always proven to be something else hogging CPU's
and/or memory.

\\Steve//


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Worth knowing thanks, they ring a bell but I know we deal with someone
who deals with Clearswift.

To be honest Sunbelt has outstanding Antispam (Cloudmark is superb) but
the antivirus is a little hit and miss in that it seems to be a real
performance hog, not sure if Exchange 2003 and it being a VM contribute
to that.

What we might be wanting to look at in the near future is the ability to
say:

"If the sender is @abc.com and the message contains a PDF or Office
document and the document contains the words/phrase XYZ then "

And most products I know of won't do that, they'll block by file type,
they'll filter on subject/message body, but they won't inspect
attachment content which I believe Clearswift and Brightmail/Symantec
Mail Security can.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 15:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Sounds an interesting place to be.

We use Foursys as our reseller. So far so good.
What functionality do you lack with the current product that you would
like with a new product? 

john
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Test track, cool place :-)

Thanks for the info - I'll see what sort of pricing our VAR comes back
with and maybe have a chat with Clearswift.  I'm sure it will be more
than we're currently paying however it's a question of how much, and
what degree of additional functionality it may offer.

Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

I found this bit on the site
http://www.clearswift.com/news/press-releases/clearswift-announces-enhan
ced-data-loss-prevention-for-internal-e-mail

AIUI ?
We drop the Spam at the Edge server and dont inform the users of Spam.
You can certainly setup PMM(Personal Message Manager) from within the
MSW SMTP Software and I think you can also do it from the Edge server.
Its not something I've looked into.

John
PS Mira as in showers or Mira as in test track type place?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

Thanks, that's kind of how I understood the "flow" from what I've read,
just their website is a little confusing about what products are
available to new customers vs. available to existing customers and so on
(for example I don't see MSW for Exchange listed on the products tab).

AIUI quarantine of stuff like spam is done "on box" and the user is sent
a digest and can release/manage their own settings through a web
interface?

I think this will become clearer once I have access to the evaluation
and some full manuals.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antivirus & Antispam Suggestion?

On list then :-)
The Edge server is a Linux box running the soft appliance software built
from a ISO image.
We have enabled Kaspersky AV on this box and then I MSW to catch any EXE
files that have slipped passed the AV filter.

They also do Mailsweeper for Exchange(I've not looked at this) but i
believe its managable from the Mailsweeper for SMTP MMC Console in terms
of policy etc. Mailsweeper for Exchange maybe free if you have support
for MSW (You'd have to check that)


Internet &g

LDAP Query?

[Paul Hutchings]

Playing with the Clearswift email gateway and it can do LDAP sync.  I
have it working for users with only one SMTP address defined on their
accounts, but I'm struggling to find the filter and attribute for those
with several SMTP addresses.

 

The Clearswift engineer who did the demo is going to get back but does
anyone happen to know what I should be searching for?

 

Mail returns only the primary email address and Proxyaddresses returns
all the email addresses and types (so X400 as well).


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RE: LDAP Query?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Ben, I got it working, my mistake was that the "preview this
query" lists everything returned, but it seems the box processes the
final list and only reads the SMTP: addresses.

Thanks,
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 19 August 2010 14:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LDAP Query?

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:
> Mail returns only the primary email address and Proxyaddresses returns
all
> the email addresses and types (so X400 as well).

  I have a Perl script I use to export email addresses from AD on our
*nix mail gateway.  It looks at proxyAddresses and then does a text
match to filter anything that doesn't begin with "smtp:".  This leads
me to suspect that the type of email address is not stored as a
separate Active Directory attribute, but rather is just a part of the
attribute data.  If so, you won't be able to use just an LDAP query to
filter the results.

-- Ben


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RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

[Paul Hutchings]

I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
different things and suit different needs.

Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.

On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
easy a decision.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
level of the users.

It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
 
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
this
> week.
> 
> Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
> addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
> 
> definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
thousands
> per year.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull

> wrote:
> 
> 
>   There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but
> various upsides
> 
>   One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g.
> for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of
> those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses
> 
>   What about Microsoft Live
> 
>   Cheers Duncan
> 
>   On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote:
> 
> 
>   Super easy. Customers love it.
> 
> 




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File blocking for Exchange 2003?

[Paul Hutchings]

I'm looking at A/V and antispam options as per my other thread.  A
number of products I've looked at are aimed at protecting the edge.

 

Is there anything out there that is cheap that will just do attachment
filtering on Exchange?

 

These days Outlook seems pretty good at blocking receiving of
executables but it would be good to have something which would strip out
dangerous attachments at the server level without going to the extent of
being full antivirus ($$$ if you want to do it at the edge too).

 


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RE: SSL recomendations

[Paul Hutchings]

I haven't used them but I've heard nothing but good things about
DigiCert, pretty sure they'll be my choice when we go to 2010 as
everything I've read suggests with the SAN/UCC stuff it's not always
worth trying to save a few $$$.

 

From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2010 18:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL recomendations

 

Lots of questions today!

 

I'm getting a cert for the new 2007 server. We currently have 2 servers
using different domain names that we will be consolidating into 1. We
will be consolidating domain names as well, but sometimes old habits
(and shortcuts) die hard. Our real world server name convention is
mail.domain.com

 

I'm thinking that I need to specify five FQDNs in the cert request:
mail.domain1.com, autodiscover.domain1.com, mail.domain2.com,
autodiscover.domain2.com, realservername.domain1.com .  Is that correct?

 

Secondly, I've been asked to get the cert from Godaddy.  Does anyone
know offhand if their StandardSSL for Multiple Domains is the right cert
to get?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Steve

 

 


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RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

[Paul Hutchings]

I'm not sure it's outrageous tbh, considering with Exchange you have a
CAL cost, an Antispam cost, an antivirus cost and (the expensive part)
the costs of having someone take care of it - it's the last part that I
expect is the issue for a lot of small businesses.

 

From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 21 August 2010 17:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

 

Wow that's pretty steep for the service they provide...  $50 a seat,
really

 

From: stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org
[mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Barr
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

 

Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are no
other costs.  For the $50 here's a short list of what you get:

*   Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com
*   SSL
*   AntiSpam, AntiVirus
*   Postini
*   25GB of storage per email address

 

 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade 
wrote:

Paul,

 

I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about
25 staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to
Windows/2008r2 and  Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he
wasn't out sourcing to Google apps or some thing of that ilk he said
when costed over 4 years it looked very expensive, especially given the
uncertainty in pricing given we work in Sterling...

 

Dave Wade

0161 474 5456

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings
Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 17:13 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

 

I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
different things and suit different needs.
 
Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.
 
On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
easy a decision.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.
 
Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
level of the users.
 
It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
 
Jason
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
this
> week.
> 
> Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
> addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
> 
> definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
thousands
> per year.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull

> wrote:
> 
> 
>   There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but
> various upsides
> 
>   One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g.
> for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of
> those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses
> 
>   What about Microsoft Live
> 
>   Cheers Duncan
> 
>   On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote:
> 
> 
>  Super easy. Customers love it.
> 
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RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

[Paul Hutchings]

Oh I agree entirely on management, never did quite get why people see Exchange 
as needing that much day to day management - keywords "setup correctly" I 
imagine?

 

Backups has always struck me as where most SMB's probably fall down.  I deal 
with a remote office rather than "clients" but the biggest problem I have with 
backups isn't the tech, it's someone forgetting to put the tape in etc.

 

From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 21 August 2010 18:08
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

 

Well most of the quotes I've had from services providers is more in the $20 to 
$25 range for starters.  Even at that price I have dozen clients that have SBS 
on machines leased from Dell with the software on the lease too.  Once they're 
set up, setup correctly, very little maint is needed.  I pop in remotely for a 
½ hour every three months.  If you do a plain jane setup there's nothing to 
manage, it just runs.  Been doing it for years, no problems.

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

 

I'm not sure it's outrageous tbh, considering with Exchange you have a CAL 
cost, an Antispam cost, an antivirus cost and (the expensive part) the costs of 
having someone take care of it - it's the last part that I expect is the issue 
for a lot of small businesses.

 

From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 21 August 2010 17:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

 

Wow that's pretty steep for the service they provide...  $50 a seat, 
really

 

From: stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On 
Behalf Of Stephan Barr
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

 

Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are no other 
costs.  For the $50 here's a short list of what you get:

*   Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com
*   SSL
*   AntiSpam, AntiVirus
*   Postini
*   25GB of storage per email address

 

 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade  wrote:

Paul,

 

I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about 25 
staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to Windows/2008r2 and  
Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he wasn't out sourcing to Google 
apps or some thing of that ilk he said when costed over 4 years it looked very 
expensive, especially given the uncertainty in pricing given we work in 
Sterling...

 

Dave Wade

0161 474 5456

 



From: Paul Hutchings
Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 17:13 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

 

I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
different things and suit different needs.
 
Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.
 
On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
easy a decision.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.
 
Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
level of the users.
 
It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
 
Jason
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
this
> week.
> 
> Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
> addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
> 
> definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
thousands
> per year.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull

> wrote:
> 
> 
>  

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

[Paul Hutchings]

Actually Google's T&C's are quite interesting, I'm surprised people are
so willing to agree to them when it comes to their company data.

 

From: Hank . [mailto:hgedr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 August 2010 12:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

 

But you forgot to mention that you get to give all of your data to
someone else.

Remember one of the most basic of about security is that you maintain
physical control of your data.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Barr
 wrote:

Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are no
other costs.  For the $50 here's a short list of what you get:

*   Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com
*   SSL
*   AntiSpam, AntiVirus
*   Postini
*   25GB of storage per email address

 

 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade 
wrote:

Paul,

 

I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about
25 staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to
Windows/2008r2 and  Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he
wasn't out sourcing to Google apps or some thing of that ilk he said
when costed over 4 years it looked very expensive, especially given the
uncertainty in pricing given we work in Sterling...

 

Dave Wade

0161 474 5456

 

________

From: Paul Hutchings
Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 17:13 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.

 

I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
different things and suit different needs.
 
Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.
 
On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
easy a decision.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
week.
 
Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
level of the users.
 
It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
 
Jason
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
this
> week.
> 
> Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
> addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
> 
> definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
thousands
> per year.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull

> wrote:
> 
> 
>   There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but
> various upsides
> 
>   One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g.
> for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of
> those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses
> 
>   What about Microsoft Live
> 
>   Cheers Duncan
> 
>   On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote:
> 
> 
>  Super easy. Customers love it.
> 
> 
 
 
 
 
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Removing Public Folder attributes with ADModify?

[Paul Hutchings]

I want to strip all RFAX addresses from all objects in our AD as we no
longer use Rightfax.

 

I used ADModify to remove "RFAX=*" from all the users and groups, I just
wanted to be clear that to do the same for Public Folders it's the
"microsoft exchange system objects" folder that I need to include?

 

Looks spot on, I'd just appreciate a sanity check.

 

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Clearswift Users - A Question

[Paul Hutchings]

How are you finding the Antispam capabilities?

 

I'm trialling the secure email gateway and it's stopping a heck of a
lot, but a fair bit is still making it through to Exchange (where our
existing solution which uses Cloudmark is catching it).

 

As far as I know I can't lock it down much tighter and I guess I'm
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Vipre for Exchange - Questions

[Paul Hutchings]

A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange.

 

Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines?

 

We've used it a couple of years and I'm finding Cloudmark fantastic.
I've never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but
I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and
it's already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn't
seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links
in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam
type mailing lists).

 

I'll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the
longer term.

 

Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus?

 

I've actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the
old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would
simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine
of the defs on the server).

 

I've just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just
after a little reassurance that I'm not making a huge mistake.

 

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RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Jeff.  We have our Exchange box behind a DMZ relay so anything we
accept in Exchange is only checked by Cloudmark.  I did find that within
2 minutes of enabling the mail-filters.com engine that one of the
discussions on the ntsysadmin list was flagged as spam hence my concern
and the question.

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 August 2010 21:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre for Exchange - Questions

 

I've been running it for years with both Cloudmark and the Sunbelt
filters active and find that it does a good job.  We reject about 80% of
the inbound mail and aside from when spammers figure out a  new trick,
users don't complain about SPAM.

 

No issues with the A/V engine either.

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange.

 

Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines?

 

We've used it a couple of years and I'm finding Cloudmark fantastic.
I've never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but
I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and
it's already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn't
seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links
in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam
type mailing lists).

 

I'll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the
longer term.

 

Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus?

 

I've actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the
old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would
simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine
of the defs on the server).

 

I've just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just
after a little reassurance that I'm not making a huge mistake.

 

Thanks!



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RE: Empty Subfolder using Mailbox Manager?

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It's something I could look at.  Be nice to know if I changed it that I
could programmatically get rid of all the existing clutter though.

 

From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 August 2010 23:27
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Empt Subfolder using Mailbox Manager?

 

Can you move this folder so it resides in Outlook's normal Junk Mail
folder? Then they could simply look in one place and use the default
rules for cleanup? 

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Our Antispam product creates a Spam/Quarantine folder under every
mailbox.  It seems somehow that spam older than 30 days has not been
automatically deleted for all users.

 

I thought I'd use a Mailbox Management policy to do this, but using the
guide at

 

http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/01/applying-mailbox-manager-policies-
to.html

 

To specify Spam/Quarantine just doesn't seem to work, I get emailed the
report which says it's processed all the mailboxes but nothing has been
flagged, which I know is not true.

 

I've also tried the format as Spam\Quarantine.

 

Am I missing something (this is Exchange 2003)?



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RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions

[Paul Hutchings]

Hmm.. just doing some testing moving messages between mailbox/archives
and with either of the vipre scanning engines enabled things are very
slow and the CPU on the Exchange box is working very hard.

 

Our Exchange box is a VM on ESX so has a single vCPU - can't see that
should be a huge issue given the server is a quad core Xeon that isn't
especially busy.

 

I'm toying with whether to move all our a/v scanning to the edge anyway
but I would be interested to hear from anyone else if they're seeing
anything similar.

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 28 August 2010 10:30
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions

 

Thanks Jeff.  We have our Exchange box behind a DMZ relay so anything we
accept in Exchange is only checked by Cloudmark.  I did find that within
2 minutes of enabling the mail-filters.com engine that one of the
discussions on the ntsysadmin list was flagged as spam hence my concern
and the question.

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 August 2010 21:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre for Exchange - Questions

 

I've been running it for years with both Cloudmark and the Sunbelt
filters active and find that it does a good job.  We reject about 80% of
the inbound mail and aside from when spammers figure out a  new trick,
users don't complain about SPAM.

 

No issues with the A/V engine either.

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange.

 

Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines?

 

We've used it a couple of years and I'm finding Cloudmark fantastic.
I've never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but
I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and
it's already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn't
seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links
in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam
type mailing lists).

 

I'll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the
longer term.

 

Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus?

 

I've actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the
old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would
simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine
of the defs on the server).

 

I've just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just
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Moving Public Folders in bulk?

[Paul Hutchings]

I have a parent public folder containing hundreds of subfolders.

 

I want to move some of these (the equivalent of a crtl-select or
shift-select) to a different folder.

 

Both Outlook and the Exchange 2003 GUI only seem to let me do this a
folder at a time, which seems a little nuts.

 

Is there a friendlier alternative?

 

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RE: Moving Public Folders in bulk?

[Paul Hutchings]

that's unfortunate.. any bodge/work around other than doing it all by
hand?  It is indeed Exchange 2003.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 02 September 2010 13:56
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving Public Folders in bulk?

 

In Exchange 2003?

 

Not to my knowledge. You can easily script it in Exchange 2007/2010.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving Public Folders in bulk?

 

I have a parent public folder containing hundreds of subfolders.

 

I want to move some of these (the equivalent of a crtl-select or
shift-select) to a different folder.

 

Both Outlook and the Exchange 2003 GUI only seem to let me do this a
folder at a time, which seems a little nuts.

 

Is there a friendlier alternative?

 

Thanks,

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Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

[Paul Hutchings]

We're currently using Exchange 2003 but should be going to 2010 in the
next few months.

 

In terms of performance, a single server should do the job, so that
leaves redundancy.

 

I'm interested in peoples experiences of things like vSphere Fault
Tolerance combined with things like DAG groups?

 

Ultimately we're not a 24/7/365 operation but within sensible limits I
want to make our email system as robust as I can.

 

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RE: Nortel CallPilot messages not in Inbox

[Paul Hutchings]

I'd start with message tracking on the server and if they show the
messages as being delivered scour the mailbox rules and do an Advanced
Find for item type "any" on all folders etc.

 

From: Osborne, Richard [mailto:richard.osbo...@wth.org] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Nortel CallPilot messages not in Inbox

 

We use Nortel CallPilot to integrate voice-mail into Outlook.  I have
one user where the messages do not show up in his Inbox.  The systray
icon pops up for new voice-mails, so the software knows the messages are
there at some level.

 

Exchange 2003, tried it on XP/Outlook 2003 & 7/Outlook 2007 with the
same result (so it seems to be something about his mailbox).

 

Any ideas?  Thanks.

 

 

 

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RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

[Paul Hutchings]

Not supported or "doesn't work and liable to screw things if you try
it"?

 

If it's the latter I guess I'll change the question to which HA
technology people are going with?

 

I knew HA wasn't supported but wasn't aware Fault Tolerance wasn't.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Not supported.

 

You choose a particular HA technology to use and stick with it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

We're currently using Exchange 2003 but should be going to 2010 in the
next few months.

 

In terms of performance, a single server should do the job, so that
leaves redundancy.

 

I'm interested in peoples experiences of things like vSphere Fault
Tolerance combined with things like DAG groups?

 

Ultimately we're not a 24/7/365 operation but within sensible limits I
want to make our email system as robust as I can.

 

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RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

[Paul Hutchings]

Hmm the devil really is in the detail isn't it.  I've not yet dug into
the nitty gritty just the headlines/demos - so that's something else
that's new.

 

OK let's start again J

 

Assuming two separate location sites with good ethernet connectivity,
both with vSphere, the primary location with vSphere Standard (possibly
Advanced depending on some other things) on at least two hosts with dual
physical CPUs what would you do to make what is, in performance terms, a
single box Exchange server more robust?

 

Thanks.

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

You have to keep in mind that Fault Tolerance in VSphere is still
restricted to one processor and that's not going to change anytime real
soon. If you need high availability (which it sounds like) then that's
readily available .I was at VMWorld and they were very noncommittal on
timeframe for multi-processor support.

 

John W. Cook

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Partnership For Strong Families

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Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Not supported.

 

You choose a particular HA technology to use and stick with it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

We're currently using Exchange 2003 but should be going to 2010 in the
next few months.

 

In terms of performance, a single server should do the job, so that
leaves redundancy.

 

I'm interested in peoples experiences of things like vSphere Fault
Tolerance combined with things like DAG groups?

 

Ultimately we're not a 24/7/365 operation but within sensible limits I
want to make our email system as robust as I can.

 

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RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

[Paul Hutchings]

That's what I don't understand tbh - why the server/exchange should know
or care about any HA/vmotion stuff happening to the VM it's sitting on
given that (presumably) a hardware failure on a physical exchange server
could cause some pretty funky problems for it to have to cope with?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:38
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

+1

Just went down this road with a large design I had to do with a
customer.  What I did is have two MBX servers, that will be placed on
separate vSphere4 servers and all HA\DRS\Vmotion features turned OFF for
those two virtual instances.  Created a DAG between the two and
allocated appropriate disk space per VM and we are rocking and rolling.
I would *love* to test VMotion win this setup, as I don't think the
virtual instance cares where it lives... just to *see*.

 

Shook  

 

Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Not supported.

 

You choose a particular HA technology to use and stick with it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

We're currently using Exchange 2003 but should be going to 2010 in the
next few months.

 

In terms of performance, a single server should do the job, so that
leaves redundancy.

 

I'm interested in peoples experiences of things like vSphere Fault
Tolerance combined with things like DAG groups?

 

Ultimately we're not a 24/7/365 operation but within sensible limits I
want to make our email system as robust as I can.

 

Thanks.



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RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

[Paul Hutchings]

Not hot spare as in automatic failover or anything, that's overkill for
us, but the plan (not just Exchange but in general) is to replicate at
SAN level between sites and have a vSphere box at the spare site that
could mount the replica LUNs and give us basic functionality in a bad
situation.

 

A DAG between two VM's in the primary location should still deal with
database corruption as I understand it, seems you almost have to decide
between host resilience (HA/FT) or database consistency resilience
(DAGs)?

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:42
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Are you talking about having a hot site in the second location for
failover? That's a job for Site Recovery Manager. Tuning Exchange
depends on number of mailboxes, Public folders, Full outlook (cached
mode) versus OWA and how those resources are managed/used. 

 

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Gainesville, Fl 32601

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Fax (352) 393-2746

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Hmm the devil really is in the detail isn't it.  I've not yet dug into
the nitty gritty just the headlines/demos - so that's something else
that's new.

 

OK let's start again J

 

Assuming two separate location sites with good ethernet connectivity,
both with vSphere, the primary location with vSphere Standard (possibly
Advanced depending on some other things) on at least two hosts with dual
physical CPUs what would you do to make what is, in performance terms, a
single box Exchange server more robust?

 

Thanks.

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: 07 September 2010 18:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

You have to keep in mind that Fault Tolerance in VSphere is still
restricted to one processor and that's not going to change anytime real
soon. If you need high availability (which it sounds like) then that's
readily available .I was at VMWorld and they were very noncommittal on
timeframe for multi-processor support.

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

Not supported.

 

You choose a particular HA technology to use and stick with it.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2010 on vSphere - Redundancy?

 

We're currently using Exchange 2003 but should be going to 2010 in the
next few months.

 

In terms of performance, a single server should do the job, so that
leaves redundancy.

 

I'm interested in peoples experiences of things like vSphere Fault
Tolerance combined with things like DAG groups?

 

Ultimately we're not a 24/7/365 operation but within sensible limits I
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RE: OUTLOOK failing but NOT OWA

[Paul Hutchings]

When you know she isn't logged on, have a look on the Exchange box and
see if it thinks she's logged on.

 

This sounds similar to an issue I once had where best I can tell a
client was connected to our LAN by both cable and wirelessly and somehow
Exchange got itself in a tangle.

 

In the end I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" on the Exchange server and
suddenly that client worked perfectly again.

 

From: Jean-Paul natola [mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 13 September 2010 17:55
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OUTLOOK failing but NOT OWA

 

Hi all,
 
GOt a real strange one here, I have user that CANNOT open outlook (any
version on any pc , terminal server included) at first I got scared
thinking her box went to crap,  but then we tested OWA and it works
fine.
 
I really dont have a clue where to start, i deleted her ost's  then
deleted her profile,  then created a new user profile on the workstation
itself  and no -go.
 
 
this is outlook 2003 2007 and 2010 tried it on xp client, and server
2003 client  on Exchange 2010
 
always unabel to open youe email, server may be down error
 
TIA

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jean-Paul Natola
 




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Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

Nothing just a blanket "forward new email to" rule.  This chap doesn't
have any delegates ordinarily.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The reason for the idea was, under Delegates you can say  send meeting
requests to my delegates and not me

Are there any additional rules setup on the O-o-O ?

 

John

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

Thanks.



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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

Out of Office, the normal rules section is empty.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Is that rule under Tools > Rules and Alerts? or O-o-O  settings?

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Nothing just a blanket "forward new email to" rule.  This chap doesn't
have any delegates ordinarily.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The reason for the idea was, under Delegates you can say  send meeting
requests to my delegates and not me

Are there any additional rules setup on the O-o-O ?

 

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

Thanks.



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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

But if you were in the office, a meeting request for in a weeks' time
would show as tentative even if you didn't touch it.

 

Why should that behaviour be different simply because you're out?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 15:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

This is behaving as I would expect it too.

 

If I am OOF and my email is forwarded, then my calendar shouldn't be
touched. After all - a calendar item is just another kind of email.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Out of Office, the normal rules section is empty.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Is that rule under Tools > Rules and Alerts? or O-o-O  settings?

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Nothing just a blanket "forward new email to" rule.  This chap doesn't
have any delegates ordinarily.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The reason for the idea was, under Delegates you can say  send meeting
requests to my delegates and not me

Are there any additional rules setup on the O-o-O ?

 

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

Thanks.



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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

If that's how they've made it so be it I guess, thanks for confirming.
Is there any way around it?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The issue is not the OOF. The issue is the forward.

 

If you are OOF, you are OOF.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

But if you were in the office, a meeting request for in a weeks' time
would show as tentative even if you didn't touch it.

 

Why should that behaviour be different simply because you're out?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 15:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

This is behaving as I would expect it too.

 

If I am OOF and my email is forwarded, then my calendar shouldn't be
touched. After all - a calendar item is just another kind of email.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Out of Office, the normal rules section is empty.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Is that rule under Tools > Rules and Alerts? or O-o-O  settings?

John

 

________

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Nothing just a blanket "forward new email to" rule.  This chap doesn't
have any delegates ordinarily.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The reason for the idea was, under Delegates you can say  send meeting
requests to my delegates and not me

Are there any additional rules setup on the O-o-O ?

 

John

 

____

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

Thanks.



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RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

[Paul Hutchings]

Oh Ed's right, but in this case I'm afraid I think the default behaviour
is wrong - I don't think you can expect users to think that somehow if
they forward emails some (to them) totally unrelated behaviour will
occur.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 16:11
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Don't forward messages?

 

Instead, in Joe's OOF, tell people to send email to Fred if action needs
to occur before Joe returns to the office.

 

To paraphrase Ed Crowley: There are rarely technological solutions to
behavioral issues.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

If that's how they've made it so be it I guess, thanks for confirming.
Is there any way around it?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 15:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The issue is not the OOF. The issue is the forward.

 

If you are OOF, you are OOF.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

But if you were in the office, a meeting request for in a weeks' time
would show as tentative even if you didn't touch it.

 

Why should that behaviour be different simply because you're out?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 15:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

This is behaving as I would expect it too.

 

If I am OOF and my email is forwarded, then my calendar shouldn't be
touched. After all - a calendar item is just another kind of email.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Out of Office, the normal rules section is empty.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Is that rule under Tools > Rules and Alerts? or O-o-O  settings?

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Nothing just a blanket "forward new email to" rule.  This chap doesn't
have any delegates ordinarily.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

The reason for the idea was, under Delegates you can say  send meeting
requests to my delegates and not me

Are there any additional rules setup on the O-o-O ?

 

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

Not this one no, if it's the only solution it may be doable as a "fix"
but the whole point is that Fred just wants to catch any business
related emails, not deal with Joe's diary.

 

If they just show up as tentative just so that other people who are
booking meetings can see his possible availability via Free/Busy that
would be ideal.

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 14:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

 

Do these accounts have Delegate access setup?

 

John

 



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 13:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Meeting Requests when O of O rules are used?

I have a user, Joe, who has setup his Out of Office to forward all new
mail to Fred.

 

If I schedule a meeting with Joe, Fred gets the meeting request, no
problem there.

 

However, the meeting doesn't show in Joe's calendar even as tentative
(it's not been accepted by Joe or Fred, Fred only really wants to get
email he doesn't want to be Joes secretary).

 

Am I missing something or is this by design?

 

Thanks.



MIRA Ltd

 

Watling Street, Nun

Exporting results of message tracking?

[Paul Hutchings]

On Exchange 2003, if I use the Message Tracking Centre to search for
messages it can produce quite a long list.

 

Is there a way to export it as sending a bunch of screenshots at
different scroll points looks a bit naff...

 


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RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

[Paul Hutchings]

Silly question I'm sure but right-click where - there's nothing I can
see in ESM?

 

I've read the article and I'm not entirely clear tbh, I have three
months' worth of logs and would like a list of messages sent to a given
address.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 18:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

Right-click export-to-xml

 

See the XSL that helps here:
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchang
e-message-tracking.aspx

 

(I see I have a dead picture link, I'll check that out, but it doesn't
affect the content you need.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

On Exchange 2003, if I use the Message Tracking Centre to search for
messages it can produce quite a long list.

 

Is there a way to export it as sending a bunch of screenshots at
different scroll points looks a bit naff...

 



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RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

[Paul Hutchings]

Ahh sorry I don't want an export of the tracking for each message from
message history, just a simple "from/to/subject/date" listing for a
given recipient and a given date range, literally what the message
tracking centre shows you but won't let you do anything with.

 

I've read the link and I'm being dumb but I don't get it - do I run that
on the Exchange box or copy the logs off somewhere local (and safe) or
what exactly?  I'm not a coder but from what I can make out it works
against a single tracking log and I have 90 or so.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 18:31
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

 

 

Given how much data you have, you might be better off with this,
instead:

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/more-ex
change-message-tracking.aspx

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

Silly question I'm sure but right-click where - there's nothing I can
see in ESM?

 

I've read the article and I'm not entirely clear tbh, I have three
months' worth of logs and would like a list of messages sent to a given
address.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 18:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

Right-click export-to-xml

 

See the XSL that helps here: 
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchang
e-message-tracking.aspx

 

(I see I have a dead picture link, I'll check that out, but it doesn't
affect the content you need.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exporting results of message tracking?

 

On Exchange 2003, if I use the Message Tracking Centre to search for
messages it can produce quite a long list.

 

Is there a way to export it as sending a bunch of screenshots at
different scroll points looks a bit naff...

 



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RE: Exporting results of message tracking?

[Paul Hutchings]

That's cool, thanks Michael.  For what I need this time around I'll just make 
do with screenshots.  In a few months we should be on Exchange 2010 so if the 
need arises then, I'll re-explore the options.

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Outlook not sending reply text on emails?

[Paul Hutchings]

Had a couple of instances of people who have sent replies to emails only
for the recipients to open the email to see what looks like the email
that was being replied to, i.e. Fred email Joe, Joe replies and hits
send, Fred opens the email and it's from Joe but looks like the email
Fred sent, no reply text, nothing.

 

I've not had a chance to dig into this yet as I need to compare the Sent
Item to the Inbox item, and see if it happens only using Outlook and so
on, plus it doesn't seem a simple one to replicate.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Exchange is 2003 SP2 with all the patches, Outlook is 2007 as far as I
know.

 

I have looked at the source of the messages I've been forwarded and
there's no extra text to make me think that Outlook isn't rendering
something properly.


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RE: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?

[Paul Hutchings]

It's nothing like that.  I've no reason to think they're imagining it so
when I'm able to speak to them and piece together the examples they sent
me I'm expecting to see a reply that has some text in it sat in Joe's
Sent Items, and in Fred's Inbox I'm expecting to see the message from
Joe, but without all the text, and no gap/space just the text from
Fred's original email.

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 October 2010 17:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?

 

Did you check to see if someone was being funny and set the font to
white?

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Had a couple of instances of people who have sent replies to emails only
for the recipients to open the email to see what looks like the email
that was being replied to, i.e. Fred email Joe, Joe replies and hits
send, Fred opens the email and it's from Joe but looks like the email
Fred sent, no reply text, nothing.

 

I've not had a chance to dig into this yet as I need to compare the Sent
Item to the Inbox item, and see if it happens only using Outlook and so
on, plus it doesn't seem a simple one to replicate.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Exchange is 2003 SP2 with all the patches, Outlook is 2007 as far as I
know.

 

I have looked at the source of the messages I've been forwarded and
there's no extra text to make me think that Outlook isn't rendering
something properly.



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RE: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?

[Paul Hutchings]

They'll definitely be on SP2 with any critical/security patches.  I suspect 
this is linked to the characteristics of the original email as it would appear 
that both times this has happened it's been in response to the same email - 
sounds like some Outlook quirk/bug.

The headers refer to winmail.dat but this list won't let me post a message with 
a paste of the headers as it seems to be interpreting it as an attachment 
rather than seeing it as text in the message body so it bounces the message.

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 October 2010 20:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?

We had a similar issue with Outlook 2007 and it turned out that SP2 fixed the 
problem.


 
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Roger Scudder  
wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842937
 
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?
 
It's nothing like that.  I've no reason to think they're imagining it so when 
I'm able to speak to them and piece together the examples they sent me I'm 
expecting to see a reply that has some text in it sat in Joe's Sent Items, and 
in Fred's Inbox I'm expecting to see the message from Joe, but without all the 
text, and no gap/space just the text from Fred's original email.
 
From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 October 2010 17:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Outlook not sending reply text on emails?
 
Did you check to see if someone was being funny and set the font to white?
 
-Jeff Steward
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Paul Hutchings  
wrote:
Had a couple of instances of people who have sent replies to emails only for 
the recipients to open the email to see what looks like the email that was 
being replied to, i.e. Fred email Joe, Joe replies and hits send, Fred opens 
the email and it's from Joe but looks like the email Fred sent, no reply text, 
nothing.
 
I've not had a chance to dig into this yet as I need to compare the Sent Item 
to the Inbox item, and see if it happens only using Outlook and so on, plus it 
doesn't seem a simple one to replicate.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Exchange is 2003 SP2 with all the patches, Outlook is 2007 as far as I know.
 
I have looked at the source of the messages I've been forwarded and there's no 
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Most manageable and useable corporate smartphone?

[Paul Hutchings]

I'm asking both lists as I guess Exchange compatibility is just as
important as general management.

 

So, which smartphones would you choose assuming things like mobile
network coverage weren't an issue.

 

I've no direct experience of Blackberry, I have (sadly!) too much Nokia
experience, and iPhones seem to more or less just work with Exchange but
as with Nokia's I'm not aware of any way I as an IT person can sit at my
desk, specify an action/policy or "something" that should apply to all
our phones and hit a big button that says "make it so" - I believe
Blackberry can do this?

 

I'm not really asking for a breakdown of everything each does as I can
get that from the respective websites, but I think you know where I'm
coming at this from once you have a few dozen devices.

 

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RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Joe, I’m picking up a bit of a theme when it comes to Blackberry in that 
some of it seems to be $$$ but they do seem to “just work” and are manageable 
should you decide to do something that should be fairly trivial but you need to 
update X number of mobiles.

 

I’ll look into the free vs. pay software.  As I said I’m not expecting anyone 
to RTFM on my behalf but sometimes experience of a product highlights things 
that aren’t obvious simply by RTFM – are there any features you’d say are “must 
have” that the free software doesn’t do?

 

From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 16:09
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

 

Blackberries have the most centrally manageable options…  However to take 
advantage of much of that functionality you need to pay for the Blackberry 
Enterprise Server (BES).  The free BES Express edition has many of the 
centralized management capabilities disabled, but it’s worth a look depending 
on your needs…..  

 

Depending on your size, BES may or may not be a large expense (obviously, 
“large expense” is relative to your company’s income statement)  J   And BES 
may or may not require its own server (again, depending on various factors)…  
Plenty of info at the Blackberry site.

 

JP

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

 

Blackberries are uber manageable and fairly easy to set up. 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families

 



From: Paul Hutchings  
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  
Sent: Tue Oct 12 10:56:28 2010
Subject: Most manageable and useable corporate smartphone? 

I’m asking both lists as I guess Exchange compatibility is just as important as 
general management.

 

So, which smartphones would you choose assuming things like mobile network 
coverage weren’t an issue.

 

I’ve no direct experience of Blackberry, I have (sadly!) too much Nokia 
experience, and iPhones seem to more or less just work with Exchange but as 
with Nokia’s I’m not aware of any way I as an IT person can sit at my desk, 
specify an action/policy or “something…#157; that should apply to all our 
phones and hit a big button that says “make it so…#157; – I believe Blackberry 
can do this?

 

I’m not really asking for a breakdown of everything each does as I can get that 
from the respective websites, but I think you know where I’m coming at this 
from once you have a few dozen devices.

 

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RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Simon, do appreciate all of that.  I’ve no idea what our spend is or 
what we’re already contractually obliged to so that’s for someone else here to 
look into, but I would imagine we spend enough to have some leverage (or maybe 
that’s just wishful thinking)

 

From that PDF the free BES server looks like it may have potential, I guess the 
difference is in that list of the policies you get with free vs. paid.

 

Frankly I don’t think we’re likely to want to do anything out of ordinary, it’s 
just that anything we want to do right now depends on having the phone in our 
hand, literally.

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

 

Do ensure that you are comparing like with like, and also consider that the UK 
mobile phone market is a lot more advanced than the USA one, so some of the 
reasoning is different. 

 

The Blackberry pricing structure changed considerably earlier this year, which 
makes anything you read that pre-dates 2010 pretty much out of date.

Until that point, to use the full Blackberry feature set you needed BES (or 
BPS) and the BES option on the devices. That made the Blackberry devices very 
expensive to run. Here in the UK, you were looking at £35/month plus call 
charges etc. My Blackberry cost me more to run than my phone used for voice. 
However, I never once paid for BES. If there were more than 10 devices I told 
the service provider that I wanted BES free, and if they didn’t hand it over, I 
would talk to someone else. The profit on BES data is so high, that they hand 
it over. 

 

However now, that has all changed. 
You can now run a Blackberry against BES Express on the BIS plan. BES Express 
is free for as many devices as you want. Therefore you can run a Blackberry, 
with all of the features that the end user wants on the cheaper BIS plans. My 
Blackberry now costs me less than £15/month to run. 

 

Of course if you want the full BES functionality, that means you need a full 
BES (which you rarely get free unless you have a large number of handsets or 
are bringing in a lot of business) and you must have the full BES data option 
on the devices. That makes the cost still pretty high. 

 

This PDF from RIM outlines the differences between the options available to 
you. 

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf
 

 

As for other choices, you will not get full management without paying for 
additional software. 
For the iPhone, you would have to look at third party. For Windows Mobile, you 
would be looking at SCCM or whatever it is called now, or third party. Everyone 
is still playing catch up with Blackberry for the Enterprise management. 

 

Good Technologies (http://www.good.com/) is about the closest you will get to 
Blackberry and has cross-platform support if you need that. However if you can 
standardise on the device and don’t allow non-company devices to be used, you 
will find it easier to support and more cost effective. 

 

Simon

 

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 16:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

 

Thanks Joe, I’m picking up a bit of a theme when it comes to Blackberry in that 
some of it seems to be $$$ but they do seem to “just work” and are manageable 
should you decide to do something that should be fairly trivial but you need to 
update X number of mobiles.

 

I’ll look into the free vs. pay software.  As I said I’m not expecting anyone 
to RTFM on my behalf but sometimes experience of a product highlights things 
that aren’t obvious simply by RTFM – are there any features you’d say are “must 
have” that the free software doesn’t do?

 

From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 16:09
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?

 

Blackberries have the most centrally manageable options…  However to take 
advantage of much of that functionality you need to pay for the Blackberry 
Enterprise Server (BES).  The free BES Express edition has many of the 
centralized management capabilities disabled, but it’s worth a look depending 
on your needs…..  

 

Depending on your size, BES may or may not be a large expense (obviously, 
“large expense” is relative to your company’s income statement)  J   And BES 
may or may not require its own server (again

RE: SMTP service causing massive outgoing bandwidth usage

[Paul Hutchings]

Turn on firewall logging and see what IP's and ports it's connecting to.

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2010 13:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SMTP service causing massive outgoing bandwidth usage

 

Hi chaps,

 

We have an oddity, or perhaps not such an oddity, with an Exchange 2003
box using up all the outgoing bandwidth. The issue appears to be
outgoing emails. If we stop the SMTP service then the bandwidth
immediately drops. If we turn it back on then within about a minute the
bandwidth is used up and the router graphs so that the Exchange servers
IP is uploading stuff.

 

However, with the SMTP service started, the Exchange queues are nearly
empty (currently 2 emails showing, both valid). The SMTP log itself
doesn't show a massive number of connections to the smarthost (postini).
Postini aren't reporting a large number of emails being sent to their
server (at least no larger than normal). There aren't any current
connections showing in the SMTP entry in Exchange Admin either. Relaying
is limited to just Postinis IPs and, as no one uses the SMTP server to
send emails as they all use OWA, no one is allowed to use the SMTP
server at all.

 

I can't see why, given that the queues are empty and the logs show
nothing major, why the SMTP service should be causing such an upload
usage...unless it's sending out loads of emails, then why aren't these
showing up in any queues/logs ?

 

Anyone knnow what we've missed or what might be going on?

 

Olly

 

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RE: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Simon.  I believe WM5 is the one that has problems with wildcards, not 
sure about iPhones and Nokia's (I did ask Nokia and got various canned replies 
that answered various questions that I hadn't asked so I gave up).

I'm leaning towards the view of buying the cheapest well supported wildcard 
that I can find, and buying one for 5 years and using it wherever I can, and if 
I have problems with Exchange I'll just buy a dedicated UCC/SAN cert for that - 
I know it's not much in the grand scheme of things but a Digicert wildcard for 
5 years works out around 10x the cost of some of the wildcard certs out there 
(I know I'm not comparing like with like).

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 22:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

I am pretty sure that wildcard support on Windows Mobile came in with one of 
the version 5 updates, not sure which though. Due to the way that different 
devices got different versions most people tend to say Windows Mobile 6 or 
higher because that was the first version to support them in all variants. 

For other platforms, it is hit and miss. I know some Nokia's do support 
wildcard certificates, but I know that Blackberry doesn't NOT like the Digicert 
wildcard - which is connected to the root that they use. 

Although I personally don't use wildcards in any of my Exchange deployments. I 
have used wildcards for web sites, but on Exchange, I want to use SSL with TLS 
and not all non-Microsoft MTAs can use them. 

Simon. 


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-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2010 19:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

Godaddy wildcard certs work just fine. The challenge is whether or not the 
handheld device supports wildcard certs. Windows Mobile 6.0 and above do, for 
sure. I don't know about older versions of WinMo or any other platform.

Simon probably does, if he's hanging around today.

Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

Has anyone had any bad experiences of Wildcard Certificates and Exchange 2003 
and Exchange 2010?

Essentially the Digicert wildcard certificates seem to get universally good 
feedback as they also allow you to consolidate all your existing individual 
certs and specify SAN's should you need to, however good old Godaddy are 
offering wildcard certs at a crazy price where it's cheap to buy a wildcard and 
if it did present problems just buy a UCC/SAN cert solely for our Exchange box.

It seems a bit of a gray area when you get to handhelds (Nokia, iPhone mainly) 
whether wildcard certs present any issues.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

[Paul Hutchings]

Ah sorry it went to my list folder somehow.  Noted and thank you .

Rightly or wrongly I'm going to go with an AlphaSSL wildcard and see how we get 
on.  I may be back with egg on my face but worst case it should avoid the 
cost/hassle/aggro of renewing over a dozen individual certs every year.  If it 
works for Exchange 2003/2010 happy days ,if not we'll just have to buy a 
UCC/SAN cert, but the wildcard won't go unused I've been meaning to get one for 
ages now.

Thanks again all.

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2010 15:34
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL Wildcard Certificates?

Paul,

I sent you a msg off list.


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> Subject: SSL Wildcard Certificates?
> 
> Has anyone had any bad experiences of Wildcard Certificates and Exchange
> 2003 and Exchange 2010?
> 
> Essentially the Digicert wildcard certificates seem to get universally good
> feedback as they also allow you to consolidate all your existing individual
> certs and specify SAN's should you need to, however good old Godaddy are
> offering wildcard certs at a crazy price where it's cheap to buy a wildcard 
> and
> if it did present problems just buy a UCC/SAN cert solely for our Exchange
> box.
> 
> It seems a bit of a gray area when you get to handhelds (Nokia, iPhone
> mainly) whether wildcard certs present any issues.
> 
> Thanks in advance.


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RE: Calendar sharing

[Paul Hutchings]

It's in the same place, the permissions tab on the calendar folder., unless I 
misunderstood?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Roberts [mailto:st...@steveroberts.org.uk] 
Sent: 25 October 2010 20:08
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Calendar sharing

In Outlook 2000/2003 it was easy you just granted the Default read permission 
and everyone could access your calendar, where has this functionality gone in 
later versions of Outlook/Exchange, I don't want to publish my calendar to the 
web! Just share it internally like the old days.

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RE: Mailbox Expansion During Upgrade?

[Paul Hutchings]

They probably mean because you lose Single Instance Storage.  Not sure
what the average numbers are but from what I've seen (we'll be doing
this ourselves in a few months) doubling is very unlikely.

 

From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] 
Sent: 03 November 2010 13:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Mailbox Expansion During Upgrade?

 

Quick question, folks.

 

I've heard from a couple of sources that when upgrading from Exchange
2003 to 2010 that the mailboxes will double in size.  Is this correct?
I'm trying to provision new servers with storage to last us 3-5 years.
J

 

Thanks.

 

Philip

 

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RE: Disclaimers

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Honestly I've yet to encounter a single techie who thinks they do anything 
worthwhile, it always comes down to "our lawyers said we should".

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com] 
Sent: 03 November 2010 13:49
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Disclaimers

These were all the rage 5 years ago but I see them less and less these days.  
Still a necessary evil?  Anyone still using them?  

Thanks,
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RE: Question about Activesync ..

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So long as you're using SSL then yes.

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 November 2010 15:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Question about Activesync ..

 

Is data sent to and from the Exchange server and the Activesync devices
encrypted?

I'm talking about a person accessing his corporate email from one of
these devices.
Also, do you have any MS documentation I can refer to so I can
substantiate the facts to our audit folks?

Thx in advance

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RE: BESx?

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Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry.  Regarding where 
to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for 
less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless 
(apparently "reboot the BES" is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems 
but that's anecdotal).

 

From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] 
Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BESx?

 

Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx?

 

From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BESx?

 

We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX.

 

Thanks,

 

-Alex

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESx?

 

My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed 
BESx ON both. No worries.  some difficulty logging into management console 
first time, but that's nothing new.

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson 
 wrote:

I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box 
and can be installed on same Exchange installation.  Can feedback be provided 
on this scenario?

 

-Alex

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: BESx?

 

We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at 
all.  Pretty quick to install and set up.  Users were removed from my full BES 
and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference.  Whole lot faster 
than using BIS or Http.  And yes put it on it's own machine or VM.

 



From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BESx?

Hi folks,

 

Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES.

Anything to share from your experience?

Regards,

 

 

~D

 

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RE: BESx?

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Just to throw one out there, we're looking at Blackberry right now though it's 
currently not past the "let's see if we can get some on loan" stage.

 

Can anyone throw anything at me from the BES Express perspective that is either 
spectacularly good or spectacularly bad?

 

We're just looking to do the "usual things" and have some management of our 
mobiles - I don't think right now that we want to get especially control freaky.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 10 November 2010 16:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESx?

 

I'll concur.  I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server.  

2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings 

Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry.  Regarding where 
to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for 
less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless 
(apparently "reboot the BES" is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems 
but that's anecdotal).

 

From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] 

Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BESx?

 

Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx?

 

From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BESx?

 

We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX.

 

Thanks,

 

-Alex

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BESx?

 

My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed 
BESx ON both. No worries.  some difficulty logging into management console 
first time, but that's nothing new.

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson 
 wrote:

I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box 
and can be installed on same Exchange installation.  Can feedback be provided 
on this scenario?

 

-Alex

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: BESx?

 

We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at 
all.  Pretty quick to install and set up.  Users were removed from my full BES 
and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference.  Whole lot faster 
than using BIS or Http.  And yes put it on it's own machine or VM.

 



From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BESx?

Hi folks,

 

Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES.

Anything to share from your experience?

Regards,

 

 

~D

 

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Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

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RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Jonathan.  That looks just the ticket actually, and it doesn't
appear to be outrageously expensive which is always nice.

 

I'm wary of trialling most things on an Exchange Server so do you have
any feedback on what it can/can't do beyond what's on the website
please?

 

We're also on Exchange 2003 but should be moving to 2010 in the next few
months.

 

Paul

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

DisclaimIt!

AFAIK, I'm the only one on the list who uses it, and we've been happy
with it.  I don't have any idea of Exchange 2010 compatibility, we're a
2003 shop, still.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks.  That's certainly one option as are transport rules when we
upgrade.  It would be nice if there were some way of automating it as an
Outlook signature though, my gut instinct is that people like to see
what will go on their messages if it's relating to them vs. a blanket
corporate disclaimer.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

The html can be wonky at times.

I've had no complaints about using it.  It's the one thing of my
predecessor that's remained.



 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.  That looks just the ticket actually, and it doesn't
appear to be outrageously expensive which is always nice.

 

I'm wary of trialling most things on an Exchange Server so do you have
any feedback on what it can/can't do beyond what's on the website
please?

 

We're also on Exchange 2003 but should be moving to 2010 in the next few
months.

 

Paul

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

DisclaimIt!

AFAIK, I'm the only one on the list who uses it, and we've been happy
with it.  I don't have any idea of Exchange 2010 compatibility, we're a
2003 shop, still.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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VAT Registration  GB 114 5409 96

 

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RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

Not sure if I'm being stupid (very likely) but can you force Outlook to
use a template but let the user customise it - that's the problem, any
template is surely static information?

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:56
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

A template isn't sufficient?

 

If it isn't, you can apply the rule to internal mails, as well.  Leave
it on for a day, have everyone test to make sure it displays names, etc
correctly.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Thanks.  That's certainly one option as are transport rules when we
upgrade.  It would be nice if there were some way of automating it as an
Outlook signature though, my gut instinct is that people like to see
what will go on their messages if it's relating to them vs. a blanket
corporate disclaimer.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:46 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

The html can be wonky at times.

I've had no complaints about using it.  It's the one thing of my
predecessor that's remained.



 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.  That looks just the ticket actually, and it doesn't
appear to be outrageously expensive which is always nice.

 

I'm wary of trialling most things on an Exchange Server so do you have
any feedback on what it can/can't do beyond what's on the website
please?

 

We're also on Exchange 2003 but should be moving to 2010 in the next few
months.

 

Paul

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

DisclaimIt!

AFAIK, I'm the only one on the list who uses it, and we've been happy
with it.  I don't have any idea of Exchange 2010 compatibility, we're a
2003 shop, still.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

I think I just explained it badly.  What do other companies do (if
enough people tell me I'm asking for something stupid I have to listen)?

 

It seems the solutions people have linked to are perfect, but on one
hand it seems overkill centrally adding signatures to, say, internal
mail, but if you let staff manually add a signature to internal mail at
some point they'll add it to external mail and a centrally managed
signature will be added.

 

I may be over-thinking it...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 14:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

You're not being stupid, just trying to have it both ways.  You either
have a standard and central disclaimer or you don't.  You can vary
things like the Display name, title based on items within AD.

Your original request indicated a desire to have a standard.  You can't
create a signature, disseminated and assure yourself that employees are
actually using said signature. 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Not sure if I'm being stupid (very likely) but can you force Outlook to
use a template but let the user customise it - that's the problem, any
template is surely static information?

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:56 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

A template isn't sufficient?

 

If it isn't, you can apply the rule to internal mails, as well.  Leave
it on for a day, have everyone test to make sure it displays names, etc
correctly.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Thanks.  That's certainly one option as are transport rules when we
upgrade.  It would be nice if there were some way of automating it as an
Outlook signature though, my gut instinct is that people like to see
what will go on their messages if it's relating to them vs. a blanket
corporate disclaimer.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:46 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

The html can be wonky at times.

I've had no complaints about using it.  It's the one thing of my
predecessor that's remained.



 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.  That looks just the ticket actually, and it doesn't
appear to be outrageously expensive which is always nice.

 

I'm wary of trialling most things on an Exchange Server so do you have
any feedback on what it can/can't do beyond what's on the website
please?

 

We're also on Exchange 2003 but should be moving to 2010 in the next few
months.

 

Paul

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 13:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

DisclaimIt!

AFAIK, I'm the only one on the list who uses it, and we've been happy
with it.  I don't have any idea of Exchange 2010 compatibility, we're a
2003 shop, still.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

Thanks,

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RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks guys, have to admit this is looking a very nice option - quite
liking the inbuilt editor and the fact that you can specify "rules"
almost firewall style (first match) to suit different business needs or
just internal vs. external mail and so on.
 
Also the AD attributes and ability to use "RT" tags to remove blank
fields (i.e. mobile phone) looks very useful.
 
Paul 


From: Celone, Mike [mailto:mike.cel...@rfsworld.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2010 17:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)



I 2nd this.  We implemented this recently and it's working great.

 

Mike

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disclaimer Software (Pulls info out of AD?)

 

Take a look at C2 Exchange Rules from www.codetwo.com.  Inexpensive,
easy to configure.


Roger Wright
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what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.






On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

We may be looking for software to help automate/standardise email
signatures.

 

Right now the legal text is appended by our edge gateway (as you'll see
on this message), but actual Outlook signatures are set by each person
individually.

 

What's the best way to put in place a corporate Outlook signature that
is still unique to the message sender i.e. name/job title/phone
number/email is automatically populated?

 

I know there are seldom technical solutions to people problems, but
people don't do it or forget.

 

Thanks,

Paul

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Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

[Paul Hutchings]

Installed BES Express today.  Happy days actually except I seem to be
running into this problem when trying to use one myself:

 

Seems to be caused by this:

 

http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-active
-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries
 

 

Which seems fixable with this:

 

http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-active
-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries
 

 

However I can't be the only person to have encountered this so I
wondered what would be considered the most pragmatic solution please?

 

Thanks,

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RE: Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

[Paul Hutchings]

I'd hardly say an "Account Operator" or "Print Operator" account was
"high privilege" in most organisations.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 22 November 2010 18:43
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

 

Don't give high privilege user accounts mailboxes!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> 



From: Paul Hutchings [paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

Installed BES Express today.  Happy days actually except I seem to be
running into this problem when trying to use one myself:

 

Seems to be caused by this:

 

http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-active
-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries
<http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-activ
e-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries> 

 

Which seems fixable with this:

 

http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-active
-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries
<http://www.diaryofaninja.com/blog/2010/02/27/exchange-2010-fixing-activ
e-synch-issues-for-iphones-and-blackberries> 

 

However I can't be the only person to have encountered this so I
wondered what would be considered the most pragmatic solution please?

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks, I actually found this:

http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&extern
alId=KB04707

So I followed the steps in "Method 2" and now on accounts in Protected
Groups the besadmin account shows explicit "Send As" permissions, but I
still can't "Send As" anyone in a protected group.

I've ruled out Blackberry and for now I'm just testing using an Outlook
profile on a PC logged in as besadmin.

Any suggestions welcome as this is most annoying and the documentation
doesn't seem entirely clear what the definitive fix might be.

Thanks,
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: 22 November 2010 19:11
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problems with Blackberry Enterprise Express..

> I'd hardly say an "Account Operator" or "Print Operator" account was
"high
> privilege" in most organisations.

All the details here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907434

~JasonG



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RE: BESX

[Paul Hutchings]

Small point but you have to use Internet Explorer.  Don't waste lots of
time using Chrome wondering why it isn't working.

Not that I know anyone who's done that...

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: 01 December 2010 16:00
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BESX

Question for you BESX experts.
When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a
handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web
page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via
USB to the server.
Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and
the over the air activation doesn't work.
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RE: GPO for Outlook signature - with a twist

[Paul Hutchings]

Have a look at Exclaimer signature manager.  Not free, does seem to do
exactly that though.

I'm trialling it now and look ma, no signature!

-Original Message-
From: Russ Patterson [mailto:rus...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 December 2010 16:33
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GPO for Outlook signature - with a twist

Morning All -

HR has asked for a weird one, I think. They want a standardized Outlook
signature for everyone, but - only when they choose to use a signature.
SO, we want to force a pre-defined signature if and only if a user
chooses to use a sig. No need to add a sig when you're emailing your
spouse about the groceries to pick up on the way home, etc.

Any suggestions? Is this possible without any extra software? Is there
software that would enable such?

Thanks for the time - Happy Holidays.

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Exclaimer Signature Manager

[Paul Hutchings]

OK so before I go suggest we splunk the cash on this, is there anything
out there that I'm overlooking that will allow similar
control/granularity over signatures whilst keeping some degree of
control with the end user?

 

I've looked at a couple of server side solutions but they all lose out
the minute you want someone to have the option to insert their mobile
number or remove it and so forth.

 

Thanks,

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RE: Ex2003 Get public Folder Size

[Paul Hutchings]

Have a look at the Public Folder Store at the "Public Folder Instances"
view in System Manager under the Server and Storage Group.

 

Paul

 

From: Al Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 December 2010 14:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Ex2003 Get public Folder Size

 

Hi,

 

How can i get the size of a specific folder in the Public folders?

 

I cannot use Outlook...

 

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Exporting ALL mailbox content to PST?

[Paul Hutchings]

I need to export a couple of mailboxes to PST prior to deleting them,
and they are larger than the 2gb limit on Exmerge.

 

I suspect I'm left with Outlook, so is there anything I need to do/know
to ensure I get *everything* when trying to do a copy/archive at the
mailbox level?

 

Thanks,

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RE: Exporting ALL mailbox content to PST?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Troy, it is only a couple so no chance of paying for something, I
just didn't know how reliable Outlook was when you want to archive
absolutely everything.



From: Troy Werelius [mailto:troy_werel...@lucid8.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2011 18:54
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exporting ALL mailbox content to PST?

 

You are correct on ExMerge and that is because it only supports ANSI
PST's and they actually start to degrade at about 1.8GB so I would not
go over that limit in order to ensure the data is recoverable

1.  Here is an article on how to script the creation of overflow
PST's if you reach the 2GB limit 
http://gsexdev.blogspot.com/2007/01/exporting-mailbox-larger-then-2-gb-a
nd.html
2.  Alternatively:

*   You can look at other tools like Kroll PC, Quest RM or 
Lucid8 DigiScope <http://www.lucid8.com/product/digiscope.asp> that will
allow you to export data from any mailbox on a Production server or from
an offline EDB to Unicode PSTs and also has some other cool features
*   Since you only a few mailboxes you should consider just
using Outlook 2003 or later to export each mailbox to a Unicode PST
since it has a 20GB limit. (unless you are using Outlook 2010 and then
you have a 50GB limit)

When you create a new PST i.e. select "File/New/Outlook Data file" you
will have the option of selecting "Office Outlook Personal Folders File
(.PST)" which is the default selection that will create a Unicode PST or
you can select Outlook

 


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Monday-Friday 8AM to 6PM PST 

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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exporting ALL mailbox content to PST?

 

I need to export a couple of mailboxes to PST prior to deleting them,
and they are larger than the 2gb limit on Exmerge.

 

I suspect I'm left with Outlook, so is there anything I need to do/know
to ensure I get *everything* when trying to do a copy/archive at the
mailbox level?

 

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RE: anti-spam DNS requests

[Paul Hutchings]

Maybe it queries more RBLs, maybe it does root hint lookups rather than
forwarders, it could be a lot of things depending on how it's configured
vs. the old product.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Osborne, Richard [mailto:richard.osbo...@wth.org] 
Sent: 20 January 2011 16:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: anti-spam DNS requests

Our anti-spam solution sits behind our firewall with the necessary ports
open to the Internet.  We recently changed from a Windows-based
(Symantec Mail Security) to a Linux-based (SpamTitan) anti-spam system.
My firewall guy is concerned that the number of DNS connections on the
firewall (Checkpoint Firewall-1) has more than doubled.  We saw the same
behavior when we demo'ed Untangle (also Linux-based).

Both anti-spam solutions use RBL's, so of course there will be a lot of
DNS requests. 

Any ideas why the number has grown so much higher and whether it should
be a concern?  Should we just move our anti-spam server outside the
firewall?

Thanks.


Richard Osborne
Information Systems
Jackson-Madison County General Hospital

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New Exchange 2010 Installation

[Paul Hutchings]

Next week I'll need to install 2010 for the first time.

 

The domain is very small so there's only a single DC running 2008 R2 at
2008 domain functional level.

 

>From looking at the various docs/tutorials it looks reasonably
straightforward:

 

Run the commands in the pre-requisite list

Start the net.tcp (forget the name) service/set to auto

Run setup

 

Then there's the post install stuff like configuring send/receive
connectors and adding additional/setting the default domain and so on.

 

Have I overlooked anything glaring?

 

The domain is new and nice and clean so whilst I'll check I'm not
expecting any issues with dns/replication and all the stuff you want
working before you begin.

 

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RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks for the reply Neil.

 

No co-existence for this one, our primary Exchange system is 2003 and I
have the joy of migrating that to look forward to, but this is a totally
separate small network.

 

Certs is a good question - assuming no external connectivity and no need
for OWA do I need a cert at all let alone a commercial/non-self-signed
one?

 

Filter pack yep got that bu thanks for mentioning it (found a bunch of
useful youtube vids that summarised things quite nicely).

 

Schema/Adprep wasn't' mentioned in any of the videos I saw - presumably
with a single DC it is a "simple" case of letting setup handle it as
there's no replication to worry about etc.

 

My understanding is that the SP1 download is both service pack and
install media so I would assume there's no good reason not to use it
from the off?

 

Thanks,

Paul



From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 16:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Coexisting with legacy Exchange at all?

 

Also a few things off the top of my head:

 

1.   Might want to run the Exchange Pre-Deployment Analyzer - this
has picked up some AD issues for me in the past

2.   What are you doing about certs?

3.   Don't forget things like the filter pack in your pre-reqs

4.   Don't need to worry about setting the NetTcpPortSharing service
if you're deploying Exchange 2010 SP1

5.   I personally like to do the schema and AD preparation
separately to the Exchange install - just my preference though

 

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 15:47
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Next week I'll need to install 2010 for the first time.

 

The domain is very small so there's only a single DC running 2008 R2 at
2008 domain functional level.

 

>From looking at the various docs/tutorials it looks reasonably
straightforward:

 

Run the commands in the pre-requisite list

Start the net.tcp (forget the name) service/set to auto

Run setup

 

Then there's the post install stuff like configuring send/receive
connectors and adding additional/setting the default domain and so on.

 

Have I overlooked anything glaring?

 

The domain is new and nice and clean so whilst I'll check I'm not
expecting any issues with dns/replication and all the stuff you want
working before you begin.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

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The Outlook clients will all be either using "full" online or cached
mode and should be 2007 or 2010 - there won't be any remote access of
any sort at all just LAN connectivity.

 

When you say Outlook doesn't play well with self-signed, presumably
you're OK so long as you have the root CA installed on the client(s)?



From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Re: certs, depends on what you want to do.  Outlook 2010 doesn't play
well with self-signed certs, for example.  It may or may not be an issue
for you.

 

SP1 is indeed the full product, so you can just download that and go.

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 16:27
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Thanks for the reply Neil.

 

No co-existence for this one, our primary Exchange system is 2003 and I
have the joy of migrating that to look forward to, but this is a totally
separate small network.

 

Certs is a good question - assuming no external connectivity and no need
for OWA do I need a cert at all let alone a commercial/non-self-signed
one?

 

Filter pack yep got that bu thanks for mentioning it (found a bunch of
useful youtube vids that summarised things quite nicely).

 

Schema/Adprep wasn't' mentioned in any of the videos I saw - presumably
with a single DC it is a "simple" case of letting setup handle it as
there's no replication to worry about etc.

 

My understanding is that the SP1 download is both service pack and
install media so I would assume there's no good reason not to use it
from the off?

 

Thanks,

Paul

From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 16:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Coexisting with legacy Exchange at all?

 

Also a few things off the top of my head:

 

1.   Might want to run the Exchange Pre-Deployment Analyzer - this
has picked up some AD issues for me in the past

2.   What are you doing about certs?

3.   Don't forget things like the filter pack in your pre-reqs

4.   Don't need to worry about setting the NetTcpPortSharing service
if you're deploying Exchange 2010 SP1

5.   I personally like to do the schema and AD preparation
separately to the Exchange install - just my preference though

 

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 25 January 2011 15:47
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: New Exchange 2010 Installation

 

Next week I'll need to install 2010 for the first time.

 

The domain is very small so there's only a single DC running 2008 R2 at
2008 domain functional level.

 

>From looking at the various docs/tutorials it looks reasonably
straightforward:

 

Run the commands in the pre-requisite list

Start the net.tcp (forget the name) service/set to auto

Run setup

 

Then there's the post install stuff like configuring send/receive
connectors and adding additional/setting the default domain and so on.

 

Have I overlooked anything glaring?

 

The domain is new and nice and clean so whilst I'll check I'm not
expecting any issues with dns/replication and all the stuff you want
working before you begin.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Can You Tell Me Why?

[Paul Hutchings]

My guess would be this -

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/exchangesvradmin/thread/56
b2d50d-6855-444b-abed-89aaa9176a9f

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 January 2011 18:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Can You Tell Me Why?

Exchange 2003 / Outlook 2003/2007

I've had a couple users who have been unable to send email to specific
external recipients, different ones for each user.  They either receive
a 5.1.2 NDR ("the recipient's destination email system is unknown or
invalid") or one indicating "None of your e-mail accounts could send to
this recipient."  Other users have been able to send to the same
recipients without a problem. DNS is working fine and they can make
telnet connections from their machines to the destination mail servers.
Both users have connections to other internal users'
mailboxes.

I resolved this by having them send a message to ab...@domain.com using
the recipients' domain name and they received the "email address does
not exist" NDR.  Then, miraculously, they were both able to send and
receive a reply from the original recipients.

While I'm glad the issue seems to be resolved I have no idea why this
worked.  What's up with that?


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Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

[Paul Hutchings]

I have an Exchange 2003 organization with 2 admin groups (back from the
good old days when 5.5 pretty much insisted on having 2 admin groups if
you had 2 sites and a slow link).

 

We now have plenty of bandwidth between the sites, and in a month or so
I need to begin moving us to Exchange 2010.

 

Where I want to be is with their site gone and their mail on the mail
server used at our main site - with their increased bandwidth and
Outlook 2003 upwards and cached mode this shouldn't be an issue.

 

When's the best time and what's the best approach to start moving them
onto our server?

 

The Exchange 2003 org is native so I guess what I'm asking is should I
move their mailboxes now and look at getting rid of their Exchange
server before I reach for the 2010 disc, or should I wait until I've
introduced an Exchange 2010 server?

 

I'm a bit unclear on the whole "clean-up" process as well since I'll
have an Administrative Group with no servers in it.

 

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RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

[Paul Hutchings]

Can I hide them from the EMC?  I don't mind the cruft left in AD but
it's so annoying having these things visible.

 

When you say "do it as part of the Exchange migration", at what point
would you suggest, or you mean once there's a 2010 server in the
organization and move them to that?

 

Paul



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 23 February 2011 14:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

Just do it as part of the Exchange migration. It will be simpler.

 

Oh, and when you are done, you'll have TWO AGs with no servers in them.
J BUT DON'T DELETE THEM! 

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

I have an Exchange 2003 organization with 2 admin groups (back from the
good old days when 5.5 pretty much insisted on having 2 admin groups if
you had 2 sites and a slow link).

 

We now have plenty of bandwidth between the sites, and in a month or so
I need to begin moving us to Exchange 2010.

 

Where I want to be is with their site gone and their mail on the mail
server used at our main site - with their increased bandwidth and
Outlook 2003 upwards and cached mode this shouldn't be an issue.

 

When's the best time and what's the best approach to start moving them
onto our server?

 

The Exchange 2003 org is native so I guess what I'm asking is should I
move their mailboxes now and look at getting rid of their Exchange
server before I reach for the 2010 disc, or should I wait until I've
introduced an Exchange 2010 server?

 

I'm a bit unclear on the whole "clean-up" process as well since I'll
have an Administrative Group with no servers in it.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Michael, no doubt I'll be back with more questions when I finish
the current project and look properly at the 2010 migration but that
will tide me over.

 

Thanks,

Paul



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 23 February 2011 14:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

AGs are not visible in the Exchange 2010 management console.

 

In the 2003 management console, I'm pretty sure that you can right-click
on your organization name (far left window pane) and select properties
and then uncheck "Display Admin Groups" or some such (sitting in a
meeting, can't check right now).

 

I meant once you have an Exchange 2010 server in the organization, just
move them to that.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

Can I hide them from the EMC?  I don't mind the cruft left in AD but
it's so annoying having these things visible.

 

When you say "do it as part of the Exchange migration", at what point
would you suggest, or you mean once there's a 2010 server in the
organization and move them to that?

 

Paul

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 23 February 2011 14:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

Just do it as part of the Exchange migration. It will be simpler.

 

Oh, and when you are done, you'll have TWO AGs with no servers in them.
J BUT DON'T DELETE THEM! 

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Merging one Admin Group into another (Exchange 2003)?

 

I have an Exchange 2003 organization with 2 admin groups (back from the
good old days when 5.5 pretty much insisted on having 2 admin groups if
you had 2 sites and a slow link).

 

We now have plenty of bandwidth between the sites, and in a month or so
I need to begin moving us to Exchange 2010.

 

Where I want to be is with their site gone and their mail on the mail
server used at our main site - with their increased bandwidth and
Outlook 2003 upwards and cached mode this shouldn't be an issue.

 

When's the best time and what's the best approach to start moving them
onto our server?

 

The Exchange 2003 org is native so I guess what I'm asking is should I
move their mailboxes now and look at getting rid of their Exchange
server before I reach for the 2010 disc, or should I wait until I've
introduced an Exchange 2010 server?

 

I'm a bit unclear on the whole "clean-up" process as well since I'll
have an Administrative Group with no servers in it.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Monitoring outages.

[Paul Hutchings]

Seems the package isn't the problem, rather the notification method
because you have no internet/email connectivity to notify you that
there's a problem?

 

Do you host external facing services in your server room?

 

If so why not look at one of the numerous external services that monitor
that your websites/smtp/dns/whatever are responding and email you if
they aren't?



From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 12:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks guys.  I am looking for minimal cost solutions and I am notified
when I anywhere in the world.

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant

ICT Professional Services

Path Solutions

Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703

Fax: +965 24824500

www.path-solutions.com  

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

+1 for Servers Alive

 

From: John C Owen [mailto:jo...@efotobooth.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 11:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

We swear by Servers Alive

 

Cost effective 

 

Highly configurable

 

Has a lot of the same built-in connectors that some enterprise solutions
has that cost big $$

 

 

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Monitoring outages.

 

Hi,

I am looking for a creative solutions in which I get notified on my
mobile if there is a complete black out in my server room.  Presently, I
am using dude.  But in a complete black out situation, I don't have the
time to get the mail out of my edge server due to a poor UPS which will
not hold the load to send the mail.  I hope most of the sys admin gone
through this.  I am looking for a creative, cost effective solution.
Please help

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew 

 

 



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RE: Monitoring outages.

[Paul Hutchings]

Look at using something like Pingdom (there are loads of others at a
vast range of prices) to monitor from the outside.  You tell it to
monitor your SMTP server or OWA or whatever websites you host, and if
they're down it'll tell you.

 

Granted technically it's only checking for a response on a port rather
than knowing whether the room has power, but it's probably your lowest
cost option for basic external "You've got a problem" notifications.

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:15
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks Paul.

last week i had a complete black out in my server room.  DC, Exchange,
ISA, Juniper everything went down and I was notified by some user who
tried to access the mail and was not able to and this was after a good 8
hours of downtime in the night.

So basically i want to get the notification out of my server room as
soon as something going down such as DC, Exchange, ISA or anything for
that matter.

____

From: Paul Hutchings [paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

Seems the package isn't the problem, rather the notification method
because you have no internet/email connectivity to notify you that
there's a problem?

 

Do you host external facing services in your server room?

 

If so why not look at one of the numerous external services that monitor
that your websites/smtp/dns/whatever are responding and email you if
they aren't?

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 12:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks guys.  I am looking for minimal cost solutions and I am notified
when I anywhere in the world.

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant

ICT Professional Services

Path Solutions

Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703

Fax: +965 24824500

www.path-solutions.com <http://www.path-solutions.com/> 

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

+1 for Servers Alive

 

From: John C Owen [mailto:jo...@efotobooth.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 11:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

We swear by Servers Alive

 

Cost effective 

 

Highly configurable

 

Has a lot of the same built-in connectors that some enterprise solutions
has that cost big $$

 

 

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Monitoring outages.

 

Hi,

I am looking for a creative solutions in which I get notified on my
mobile if there is a complete black out in my server room.  Presently, I
am using dude.  But in a complete black out situation, I don't have the
time to get the mail out of my edge server due to a poor UPS which will
not hold the load to send the mail.  I hope most of the sys admin gone
through this.  I am looking for a creative, cost effective solution.
Please help

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew 

 

 



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RE: Monitoring outages.

[Paul Hutchings]

But how will it send to your phone if you have no internet connection
because your firewall is down?



From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Monitoring outages.

 

Why not just setup Nagios? It's free and I'm pretty sure you can have it
send directly to your phone. There seems to be plugins for a whole range
of stuff so it may fit your needs.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Paul Hutchings <
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> wrote:

Look at using something like Pingdom (there are loads of others at a
vast range of prices) to monitor from the outside.  You tell it to
monitor your SMTP server or OWA or whatever websites you host, and if
they're down it'll tell you.

 

Granted technically it's only checking for a response on a port rather
than knowing whether the room has power, but it's probably your lowest
cost option for basic external "You've got a problem" notifications.

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:15 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks Paul.

last week i had a complete black out in my server room.  DC, Exchange,
ISA, Juniper everything went down and I was notified by some user who
tried to access the mail and was not able to and this was after a good 8
hours of downtime in the night.

So basically i want to get the notification out of my server room as
soon as something going down such as DC, Exchange, ISA or anything for
that matter.

____

From: Paul Hutchings [paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

Seems the package isn't the problem, rather the notification method
because you have no internet/email connectivity to notify you that
there's a problem?

 

Do you host external facing services in your server room?

 

If so why not look at one of the numerous external services that monitor
that your websites/smtp/dns/whatever are responding and email you if
they aren't?

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 12:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks guys.  I am looking for minimal cost solutions and I am notified
when I anywhere in the world.

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant

ICT Professional Services

Path Solutions

Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703

Fax: +965 24824500

www.path-solutions.com <http://www.path-solutions.com/> 

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

+1 for Servers Alive

 

From: John C Owen [mailto:jo...@efotobooth.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 11:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

We swear by Servers Alive

 

Cost effective 

 

Highly configurable

 

Has a lot of the same built-in connectors that some enterprise solutions
has that cost big $$

 

 

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Monitoring outages.

 

Hi,

I am looking for a creative solutions in which I get notified on my
mobile if there is a complete black out in my server room.  Presently, I
am using dude.  But in a complete black out situation, I don't have the
time to get the mail out of my edge server due to a poor UPS which will
not hold the load to send the mail.  I hope most of the sys admin gone
through this.  I am looking for a creative, cost effective solution.
Please help

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew 

 

 



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RE: Monitoring outages.

[Paul Hutchings]

Of course, but I got the impression, maybe incorrectly, that the OP was
looking for low (minimal) cost.  Granted 3G dongles aren't expensive but
we monitor the way I mentioned because our external DNS provider does
service monitoring as part of our DNS package.

 

If real granularity is needed then yes, 3g or "something" is a much
better solution to get very specific alerts our (unless it's the UPS and
the server's dead).

 

From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

A 3g dongle?

 

John

 

________

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

But how will it send to your phone if you have no internet connection
because your firewall is down?

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Monitoring outages.

 

Why not just setup Nagios? It's free and I'm pretty sure you can have it
send directly to your phone. There seems to be plugins for a whole range
of stuff so it may fit your needs.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Paul Hutchings <
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> wrote:

Look at using something like Pingdom (there are loads of others at a
vast range of prices) to monitor from the outside.  You tell it to
monitor your SMTP server or OWA or whatever websites you host, and if
they're down it'll tell you.

 

Granted technically it's only checking for a response on a port rather
than knowing whether the room has power, but it's probably your lowest
cost option for basic external "You've got a problem" notifications.

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:15 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks Paul.

last week i had a complete black out in my server room.  DC, Exchange,
ISA, Juniper everything went down and I was notified by some user who
tried to access the mail and was not able to and this was after a good 8
hours of downtime in the night.

So basically i want to get the notification out of my server room as
soon as something going down such as DC, Exchange, ISA or anything for
that matter.



From: Paul Hutchings [paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

Seems the package isn't the problem, rather the notification method
because you have no internet/email connectivity to notify you that
there's a problem?

 

Do you host external facing services in your server room?

 

If so why not look at one of the numerous external services that monitor
that your websites/smtp/dns/whatever are responding and email you if
they aren't?

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 12:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

Thanks guys.  I am looking for minimal cost solutions and I am notified
when I anywhere in the world.

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant

ICT Professional Services

Path Solutions

Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703

Fax: +965 24824500

www.path-solutions.com <http://www.path-solutions.com/> 

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

+1 for Servers Alive

 

From: John C Owen [mailto:jo...@efotobooth.com] 
Sent: 02 March 2011 11:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring outages.

 

We swear by Servers Alive

 

Cost effective 

 

Highly configurable

 

Has a lot of the same built-in connectors that some enterprise solutions
has that cost big $$

 

 

 

From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Monitoring outages.

 

Hi,

I am looking for a creative solutions in which I get notified on my
mobile if there is a complete black out in my server room.  Presently, I
am using dude.  But in a complete black out situation, I don't have the
time to get the mail out of my edge server due to a poor UPS which will
not hold the load to send the mail.  I hope most of the sys admin gone
through this.  I am looking for a creative, cost effective solution.
Please help

 

Regards

 

Liby Philip Mathew 

 

 



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Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

[Paul Hutchings]

I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum database size 
to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to 
perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single database 
grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per 
database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the "sweet spot"?

Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO to be a 
significant issue.

Thanks,
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RE: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks all.  Sounds like RPO/RTO is the key then assuming I'm not
planning on using 1tb DB's or anything that would be slightly crazy.

 

I'm sure I'll be back with more questions as I read more docs.


Thanks,

Paul



From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 March 2011 19:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

 

The database size recommendations are based on your RTO. If you're
relying on tape backup, keep the DBs under 200GB. If you have more than
3 copies of your DBs in a DAG, than the size recommendations will grow.
Read this http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453117.aspx and
download the storage calculator.

 

- Sean

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum
database size to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to
perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single
database grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per
database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the "sweet
spot"?

Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO
to be a significant issue.

Thanks,
Paul 



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2010 Jetstress - Help

[Paul Hutchings]

I'm struggling a little with Jetstress and how to run it to get a
"real-world" test of Exchange performance.

 

If I run the mailbox test with an IOPS profile of 0.2 and 500 mailboxes
each of 100mb (smallish LUN just to do some quick testing) I get:

 

Database Sizing and Throughput

Achieved Transactional I/O per Second

135.2

Target Transactional I/O per Second

100

Initial Database Size (bytes)

90580779008

Final Database Size (bytes)

90689830912

Database Files (Count)

1

 

But if I run the performance test I'm seeing this:

 

Database Sizing and Throughput

Achieved Transactional I/O per Second

1374.757

Capacity Percentage

100%

Throughput Percentage

100%

Initial Database Size (bytes)

86008987648

Final Database Size (bytes)

90580779008

Database Files (Count)

1

 

So naturally I'm a little confused on how to get "real-world" figures in
and out of it?

 

The array is a HP P4000 24x600gb 15k SAS iSCSI SAN.  It's not solely
dedicated to Exchange but the point is that it's not slow in terms of
throughput or IOPS so I suspect the problem is with what I'm telling
Jetstress to do.

 

Any advice would be great.

 

Thanks,

Paul


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RE: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

[Paul Hutchings]

Just to follow-up on my original email, I know I don't want to remove
the actual admin group - just lose the server.



From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 01 April 2011 12:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

 

I have an Exchange 2003 site with 2 administrative groups, one of which
contains a single small server with around 20 mailboxes on it.

 

I want to move all the mailboxes to a server in the other admin group
(this seems simple) and then remove the server from the second admin
group.  This is being done prior to introducing Exchange 2010 (the
server holding the exchange server I want to remove/migrate is coming
off lease so needs to be done prior to the Exchange 2010 stuff).

 

I've found http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931 but this seems to
focus on removing the first Exchange server in an admin group, rather
than focussing on removing the only Exchange server - I'm struggling to
find a reputable walk-through that covers that hence the post.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

[Paul Hutchings]

Ah ok, so in lieu of having another site in that admin group, just use
the primary Exchange 2003 box in the main admin group.

 

I'm assuming the fact the second server is on a domain controller won't
make any difference in all of this?  I don't see any mention of special
procedures for it being on a DC (other than not running dcpromo whilst
Exchange is installed).

 

Thanks,

Paul



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 01 April 2011 12:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

 

That's still the right KB.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

 

Just to follow-up on my original email, I know I don't want to remove
the actual admin group - just lose the server.

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 01 April 2011 12:01
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Migrating & Removing Exchange 2003 Administrative Group

 

I have an Exchange 2003 site with 2 administrative groups, one of which
contains a single small server with around 20 mailboxes on it.

 

I want to move all the mailboxes to a server in the other admin group
(this seems simple) and then remove the server from the second admin
group.  This is being done prior to introducing Exchange 2010 (the
server holding the exchange server I want to remove/migrate is coming
off lease so needs to be done prior to the Exchange 2010 stuff).

 

I've found http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931 but this seems to
focus on removing the first Exchange server in an admin group, rather
than focussing on removing the only Exchange server - I'm struggling to
find a reputable walk-through that covers that hence the post.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

[Paul Hutchings]

2003 with all the packs/patches (soon to be 2010).

 

I did find a Blackberry KB article that pretty much just said "if this
happens restart the BES", and has not other useful info in it.



From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2011 18:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

What is your Exchange version?

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

Appreciate this is the Exchange list but I also expect many of you use
BES so maybe someone's encountered this.

 

We have a dedicated BES Express VM and around a dozen Blackberry's right
now.  What seems to happen randomly is that sending mail on some/all of
the Blackberry's fails, as does the ability to do address book lookups -
you just get "lookup failed" on the Blackberry, and restarting the BES
fixes it.


The BES Express server is running 2003 R2 x64 and the BES Express is
5.0.2.29.

 

Any suggestions would be great.

 

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks for this, interesting article.  I was doing some maintenance over
the weekend but can't honestly recall exactly what was rebooted and when
to be able to tie it in to anything (since I don't know when the problem
actually started).

 

I'm a little confused by the article though, as we are using a dedicated
VM for BES Express and it has CDO 1.2.1 installed, which suggests I
don't need to turn on Global Catalog Referrals?

 

Thanks,

Paul



From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2011 23:22
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

I'm surprised this is still happening in BES 5.0 (but going to Ex2k10
soon) but basically we ran into this whenever our DC/GC that BES
server's MAP profile's tethered onto goes down for maintenance & BES is
left with no GC to refer the lookup requests to. What we've done without
applying the patch/enabling GC referral is to note the GC BES is
connected to & coordinate reboots. 

 

http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&extern
alId=KB16118

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, John Cook  wrote:

I kind of remember having this issue way back in the day, we put a
static entry in the hosts file on the BES (we were on 4.1) for the
Exchange server and it seemed to clear up the problem, YMMV.

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:31 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

2003 with all the packs/patches (soon to be 2010).

 

I did find a Blackberry KB article that pretty much just said "if this
happens restart the BES", and has not other useful info in it.

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2011 18:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

What is your Exchange version?

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES - "Lookup Failed"?

 

Appreciate this is the Exchange list but I also expect many of you use
BES so maybe someone's encountered this.

 

We have a dedicated BES Express VM and around a dozen Blackberry's right
now.  What seems to happen randomly is that sending mail on some/all of
the Blackberry's fails, as does the ability to do address book lookups -
you just get "lookup failed" on the Blackberry, and restarting the BES
fixes it.


The BES Express server is running 2003 R2 x64 and the BES Express is
5.0.2.29.

 

Any suggestions would be great.

 

Thanks,

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RE: What's your backup schedule?

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks David, what I mean is would you always do a full daily where
possible, or would you be content with a full weekly and daily
differential/incremental backups.

 

I've always done full daily, just wondering if I'm being
overly-cautious, not that I think you can be overly-cautious with
backing up your email.

 

Paul



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: 09 May 2011 15:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's your backup schedule?

 

Not sure I understand the question, but we have ~45GB 2003 database,
takes about an hour to go to tape nightly.

 

 

 

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: What's your backup schedule?

 

I guess there is no real right or wrong answer to this, but, Exchange
2003, what would your ideal backup schedule be (trying to balance backup
windows with restore times etc.)?

 

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RE: Installing 2010 in existing 2003 environment

[Paul Hutchings]

Thanks Dave.  I'm so surprised that there appears to be no mention at
all of those prep steps on that Microsoft tutorial/guide.

 

So in order I simply run:

 

setup /PrepareLegacyExchangePermissions

setup /PrepareSchema

setup /PrepareAD

 

Presumably this adds permissions but won't break existing permissions
(particularly for things like Blackberry/BES) - nothing documented that
I can see that suggests it will.

 

Paul



From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk] 
Sent: 24 May 2011 12:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installing 2010 in existing 2003 environment

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: 24 May 2011 12:28
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Installing 2010 in existing 2003 environment

Probably a stupid question but one which I can't find a
definitive answer to.

We're running Exchange 2003.  I've setup the new build for our
new Exchange 2010 server (combined roles) and have ran the ExBPA and
it's clean.I'm following the guide here
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/exdeploy2010/default.aspx#Index and
it doesn't make it clear whether I need/should install each role one at
a time, or just click the "Typical Exchange Server Installation" option?


 

I have done both with no issue.

 

Also that guide doesn't appear to say anything about the various
schema/forest updates, which seems a little odd to say the least?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb125224.aspx

 

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Nokia E series phones with SAN certificates?

[Paul Hutchings]

It appears that Nokia E series phones (tested E61 so far) don't like
wildcard SSL certificates in that they will work with them but give a
warning about a name mismatch which the user has to override either per
session or permanently.

 

We have quite a lot of Nokia's so I'm keen to use a cert that the phone
will simply deal with, with no user intervention required.

 

Does anyone have any experience of using a GoDaddy SAN/UCC certs for
their Exchange 2010 install?

 

If anyone's prepared to allow me to connect to their Exchange 2010 OWA
server (of course I only want to connect as far as the https login page
to check for cert errors) I'd be grateful if you could email me the
server name off-list.

 

Thanks,

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