Re: [expert] ipmasq problems on Mandrake 7.0
Don wrote: Sometimes the " /etc/resolv.conf" file needs to be edited to include the DNS servers that your ISP gave you. If this is not added you probably won't see any thing from the Internet. Below is an example of my . . . or run a DHCP server on the firewall/gateway machine, and then you just have to do this on that machine . . . (FWIW) This particularly works a lot better with Windows machines. What sort of workstations are you running, anyway? /etc/resolv.conf file: search emad nameserver 207.67.165.4 nameserver 209.203.108.249 nameserver 207.16.23.254 nameserver 192.168.0.246 nameserver 192.168.0.1 List the ones given by your ISP first ttyl, Don On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, you wrote: I wrote in to you a couple of weeks ago with a problem using ipchains / ipmasq on a mandrake 7.0 box. I thank you for the suggestions of getting PmFirewall. I have installed it and set it up by answering all of its questions. However, this still has not corrected the original problem. I can still ping either direction from the linux box (I can ping both the internal network, and sites on the internet), however, from a workstation, I can only ping the linux box. I have no access to the internet. I have ensured that the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is "1" Also, I know that there is a command to monitor the activity on a ethernet card, but I forget what it is. Darcy Brodie Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="dbrodie.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Darcy Brodie, CJL -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] HP drivers/Outlook
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, "Kikta" == Kikta LCpl Jason M wrote: Kikta I have two questions. First, where can I get a good driver Kikta for a HP LJ 8000 and a HP LJ 4050T? I can't seem to find Kikta them on the HP website. no idea. Kitta Second, my organization uses MS Kikta Outlook (unfortunately). Is there a client available that will Kikta allow me to access my mail with minimal loss of Outlook's Kikta functionality? Thanks. Try to reach the Outlook server using IMAP : telnet hostname 143 if you get the IMAP headers, it means they run it with IMAP service enabled. Then, configure fetchmail to get your mail from it or us any other IMAP-enabled client from Linux. You will miss the calendaring stuff, but the mail will work. Charles -- Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson says : Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus Charles Bueche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Kernel config file for MDK 7.1
Joel Stanley wrote: Is it possible to obtain a configuration file (i.e. one loadable into the tcl/tk dialog from 'make xconfig') that contains the information needed to build the kernel that comes with the distro? I'm not sure but I think the command `make oldconfig' will work even if you have new kernel sources. -- Armand -- Thu Jun 15 18:35:00 MDT 2000
[expert] Regarding latest bind-8.2.2P5-6mdk...
Greetings, Linux-Mandrake users! I'am using recent bind-8.2.2P5-6mdk on my masquarading linux-Mandrake v6.1 host . I have probably paranoic question. The command 'netstat -a | grep udp' issues among known hosts:ports following result: udp *:2826*:*(After each restart of named port number is incremented) Then with 'lsof | grep 2826' I found that this port is used by named: named21250root 4u inet 3154123UDP:2830 What does this extra port ? BTW: 1. when I upgraded bind, and tried to start it, named complained about lack of 'nobody' group 2. commands 'ndc start' and '/etc/rc.d/init/named start' behave diffrently: later runs named wih -u nobody -g nogroup and the first one starts named without these options. Thanks for reading this, Zilvinas Lithuania
Re: [expert] ISP connect
Type winipcfg in windows. This will show you all the necesary information. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, you wrote: How can I find the domain name and the DNS IP address of my ISP? I can't contact them (their website is unreacheable) to find out if something has changed. However, everything worked since a couple a days ago, but now I can browse only through windows, but not in linux (on two machines). So, what options do I have to be able to browse under linux again? --- George -- Jeroen Verhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Old Netscape and Java
Yeah...upgrade netscape... it's getting old. Get 4.73 Original Message On 6/15/00, 8:04:47 PM, "Payne Stanifer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Old Netscape and Java: I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.51. Whenever I go to a site that uses Java Netscape kills itself. Any idea on how to fix this or do I need to install a newer version of Netscape? Thanks. Payne Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
Yes it is :-) Original Message On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66: Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil
Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
1) check ownership on the dir 2) is there a user "frank" ? Original Message On 6/15/00, 7:03:31 PM, "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 - Andre Steden, you wrote: | Hello, | | if i login as root an console 1 and want to switch to another user with | su frank | i get : | bash: /dev/tty1: permission denied | (with Mandrake 7.1) | | i tried the same with Mdk7.0 - there is no such message. | | bye | -- | Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just tried this with 7.0, and got the "permission denied" responce as well. Try becomming a superuser, then the other user and it will work - but you will still be logged onto your first user's home folder. So using user1 and user2 for the two user id's, when you log in as yourself, you will see [user1@localhost user1], then become the superuser, [root@localhost user1], and filally become the second user, [user2@localhost user1] If I understand correctly, the denial of permission to direct user id changes is a security feature which keeps regular users from switching their identity at will (even if you know the second user's passsword). If you know another user's id and password, this is not much of a hindrence, but it is still an inconvenience to have to log out and then back in as the other user. However it does prevent non authorized user id changes. HTH, -- ___ Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] parallel Port CD Burner
I didnt to :) Original Message On 6/15/00, 6:44:47 PM, John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] parallel Port CD Burner: On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm sure this has been beaten to dealt but is it possible to run a Parallel Port CD Burner ( HP ) from within LM 7.1 ?? Hmm.I would *guess* that you could, but I've never heard of anyone using a parallel-port CDR/RW under Linux. :-) John
Re: [expert] ISP connect
Hi under windowz , tracert to your isp and get the dns name and ip number. Update your dialer in Linux , and browse on !! :) Original Message On 6/15/00, 5:16:16 PM, "george r." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] ISP connect: How can I find the domain name and the DNS IP address of my ISP? I can't contact them (their website is unreacheable) to find out if something has changed. However, everything worked since a couple a days ago, but now I can browse only through windows, but not in linux (on two machines). So, what options do I have to be able to browse under linux again? --- George
Re: [expert] HP drivers/Outlook
Jason, if you happen to come across 4050N driver during your serches, i will be heppy to know about it.. :) 10x... Original Message On 6/16/00, 7:52:40 AM, "Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] HP drivers/Outlook: Kikta LCpl Jason M wrote: I have two questions. First, where can I get a good driver for a HP LJ 8000 and a HP LJ 4050T? I can't seem to find them on the HP website. Second, my organization uses MS Outlook (unfortunately). Is there a client available that will allow me to access my mail with minimal loss of Outlook's functionality? Thanks. Jason Also, if your employer has it set up, the Microsoft Outlook Web Access is really nice, and runs just great under Netscape. Your employer would, however, have to have a server set up. It's worth looking into, though. (Ironically, it doesn't work as well under IE; I guess they figured if you have IE you probably have Outlook, or something.) -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 01:03:31PM -0400, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: I just tried this with 7.0, and got the "permission denied" responce as well. Try becomming a superuser, then the other user and it will work - but you will still be logged onto your first user's home folder. So using user1 and user2 for the two user id's, when you log in as yourself, you will see [user1@localhost user1], then become the superuser, [root@localhost user1], and filally become the second user, [user2@localhost user1] If I understand correctly, the denial of permission to direct user id changes is a security feature which keeps regular users from switching their identity at will (even if you know the second user's passsword). If you know another user's id and password, this is not much of a hindrence, but it is still an inconvenience to have to log out and then back in as the other user. However it does prevent non authorized user id changes. Hello Ernie, i login as superuser! (root) on console 1 !! Then i want to switch to the user frank. su frank and i get the /dev/tty1 Permission denied. but the user id has changed... Why i get this message?? (with Mdk 7.1). bye -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB
Re: [expert] ISP connect
All, A question which may or may not be in the right place but here goes. How can I obtain a bare bones no and I mean no frills install with the new loader. No X No mp3 players nothing but base linux. It boots, I can get the net, telnet and ftp are available, a minimal install. From there I can install only what I need. The reason is, is that I'm putting it on an older box with a 500meg drive and although I know I could take the microsoft solution and just "buy more space" I'd rather just have the minimum, all this box is going to do is firewall and routing. (Old 486 AMD 100mhz) So I have no plans for getting fancy. James Sparenberg "Please insert your own Sig here."
[expert] 7.1 ISDN card configuration.
Hi ! Just wonder if there isn't a tool (except /usr/local/bin/isdn) for configuring an internal ISDN card in Drake 7.1? Been using RedHat previously, and they have something called isdn-config to do the job.. /Jocke!
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
tal amir wrote: Yes it is :-) Original Message On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66: Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Yes, it is, BUT ABIT B_6 boards require special LILO settings for their installation on ATA66 to work properly Anything but the newest WD disks will give you all sorts of errors if you set them to DMA/UDMA Some board chipsets do not work well with the PCI controller card. So, knowing those things, prepare for an education in BIOSes and HDDs and Disk controllers if you are in the 40% who need to do special things. Civileme
Re: [expert] lilo
At 02:35 + 2000/06/16, tal amir wrote: Hey you guy's ! :-) when booting lilo (mdk 7.1) i am getting : li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 Suffered from that sometimes: two possible causes: - You booted with some different BIOS setting for your hard drive when running lilo and when trying to boot with the kernel lilo intalled (say you booted with disk in LBA mode, and then rebooted in LARGE or NORMAL) - You changed kenel (usuallly /vmlinuz or /boot/vmlinuz) without re-running lilo. Or you ran lilo and it didn't found the default kernel you specified in lilo.conf Take a look to the error messages when running lilo Good Luck. -- Juan Antonio Magallon Lacarta mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grupo de Informatica Grafica Avanzada http://giga.cps.unizar.es Tlf: 34-976-762354,1916 - Fax: 34-976-761914
RE: [expert] HP drivers/Outlook
We do have the web access. However, Netscape isn't always stable with it and I lose some functionality. Thanks. Jason -Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 16 Jun, 2000 01:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] HP drivers/Outlook Kikta LCpl Jason M wrote: I have two questions. First, where can I get a good driver for a HP LJ 8000 and a HP LJ 4050T? I can't seem to find them on the HP website. Second, my organization uses MS Outlook (unfortunately). Is there a client available that will allow me to access my mail with minimal loss of Outlook's functionality? Thanks. Jason Also, if your employer has it set up, the Microsoft Outlook Web Access is really nice, and runs just great under Netscape. Your employer would, however, have to have a server set up. It's worth looking into, though. (Ironically, it doesn't work as well under IE; I guess they figured if you have IE you probably have Outlook, or something.) -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
[expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
Greets all, I purchased mandrake 7.1 disk 1 and 2 from www.lsl.com and installed last night. My question is, during the install (custom/workstation/install) I was asked which of 3 additional disks did I have and none of the titles given for the three matched that which was on either of my disks (Mandrake 7.1 Install i586 and Mandrake 7.1 Extras i586). What gives here, is this MandrakeSofts way of pushing their PowerPack product. One would assume that they support their d/l version during their install - very dissapointing and sounds a lot like that other OS. I must however say that the install is much better and for the first time the X configuration picked up my graphics card (Diamond S550 - I think) and actuall tested. I usually have to simply specify the monitor, resolution and test then cancel out with a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and then specify my graphics card then monitor and resolution and forget testing because it ALWAYS fails - just accept the settings and pray for the best. Why does Mandrake not give me the choice when I am installing to verify/specify the graphics card before testing the first time through, I spent 2 days the first time trying to figure out what was going wrong before I said $%*! it and tried the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace thing and just let it fly. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
[expert] Modem and serial port(s)
Each and every time I install a release of Mandrake Linux I lose my internal US Robotics 56K modems ability to be recognized. I takes me at least a day to remember that last time I encountered this I had to rebuild the kernel without the serial port driver that seems to usurp my serial ports before my modem (ISA type) can be initialized to use IRQ 3 or 4 and the appropriate address. Is there any way to handle this without rebuilding the kernel. I am not afraid of doing this but what if I want to use a serial port and my modem? Thanks in advance, Jon
Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:12:17AM -0400, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: - John Aldrich wrote: - - On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: -As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the - bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used - IRIX 64 bits system, I could creat 15GB single file. - - IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though, correct? Linux - is still a 32-bit O/S (mostly, although there ARE 64-bit - versions for things like the Sparc or the Alpha processor.) - John - - - Actually, this is, generally speaking, more a matter of hardware than - O/S. Some O/Ss are not written to be able to handle both 32- and - 64-bit environments, but most are. Even Windows runs on the Alpha, and - has for some time, although I believe it takes less advantage of the - possiblities of the 64-bit processor than Linux does. W9x does not run on the Alpha; it is Intel IA32 only. WNT does run on the Alpha, but it is a straight 32 bit implementation. Of the 32GB available on the Alpha that NT could possibly use, it runs the kernel in the top 2 GB (bit 31 set) and the user in the bottom 2 GB (bit 31 reset). Pointer are 32 bit. Recent versions of VC++ have had support for 64 bit pointers, but they are a separate data type and have had problems. W2K is the same, but it also has a kludgy scheme for addressing some of the rest of the memory, if you have more than 4 GB of physical RAM. There is a port of NT to 64 bits in the works. I don't know what the current schedule is, but my guess is that Linux will run on Merced/Itanium/IA64 before NT does. I now doubt that there will ever be a 64 bit NT for Alpha. Much of the Alpha specific code, including compilers, was written by DEC, later Compaq, not Microsoft. When Compaq pulled out of NT Alpha development last fall, that killed off any further Alpha specific development. If Microsoft has carried on on their own with Alpha development since then, I am not aware of it. The SDK does have a discussion on how to prepare your current 32 bit Windows code for 64 bit. Reading that makes me think that the conversion process will be a major kludge, with yet more idiotic data types, and will still have the kind of problems Microsoft had when they were converting from 16 to 32 bit code. Linux 32-64 bit conversion should be much cleaner. - - So . . . Linux is a 32/64 bit operating system, but the Intel x86 chips - that the large majority of us run are 32-bit chips, so it's a 32-bit - environment there; if you buy yourself an Alpha, you can run Linux in a - 64-bit environment. - - - -- - "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org - Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. - Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
[expert] Little News Server
I'm close but not quite there. I ran a small Java based news server under Windows for a few small local news groups that I am trying to get working under LM 7.02. I downloaded and installed the JRE1.2.2 and I can run the news server fine from the command line when the system boots up and I have logged in. Here is my problem, I'm trying to get it to run as a service at boot like httpd. I created what would be the same as a batch file (script I guess) and put it in init.d with a link to S65boknews in rc3.d. When the system boots it stops at "Starting boknews" and just sits there. Here is the interesting part, when I reboot in runlevel 5 and check the log it shows in the log the same display screen that the server shows when it runs successfully from the command prompt that the server is running on port 119. Which means it loads but then the system doesn't go on to process anything else. In simple tems (I'm still relativly new to Linux) is there a way, or what am I missing to have it continue processing after it loads the Java newserver? Regards Dan
Re: [expert] ISP connect
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 01:34:40AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: - All, -A question which may or may not be in the right place but here - goes. How can I obtain a bare bones no and I mean no frills install with - the new loader. No X No mp3 players nothing but base linux. It boots, I - can get the net, telnet and ftp are available, a minimal install. From - there I can install only what I need. -The reason is, is that I'm putting it on an older box with a 500meg - drive and although I know I could take the microsoft solution and just "buy - more space" I'd rather just have the minimum, all this box is going to do - is firewall and routing. (Old 486 AMD 100mhz) So I have no plans for - getting fancy. Try tomsrtbt, the Linux Router Project, and other Linux-on-a-floppy disties. Of course, those may be a bit too sparse for you. :-) -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
Hello Ernie, i login as superuser! (root) on console 1 !! Then i want to switch to the user frank. su frank and i get the /dev/tty1 Permission denied. but the user id has changed... Why i get this message?? (with Mdk 7.1). bye -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB Hi... If you are at root's $HOME, when you su to another user you are breaking permission rules (the other user should not have x, r or w permissions there). That's what the message is telling you (I think). José Alvear Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
Ray wrote: I think it is a great feature that you can use the same install to install the powerpack. They are not pushing anythng you can uncheck them real easy... Added funtionality and people assume the worst. I would love to be able to pick all of my packages at one time to install Silly me, why didn't I think of that. Of course I did just that and then I rechecked the "Applications" selection not knowing that there was another UNSUPPORTED disk thinking that perhaps someone might have simply mislabeled the disk and "Extras" might have been "Applications". If you're going to offer 4 disk's then support ALL of them not just the ones that make you more money by being packaged in a power pack, if you're not going to support this "Extras" disk SAY SO it sure would have saved a lot of "rant mail". This disk was clearly labeled MANDRAKE if it was not one of yours then you need to contact the distributor (www.lsl.com) if it is one of yours then how about supporting it. As it stands I now have NO IDEA what did and did not get installed (thanks), the install gave absolutely no clue what selecting the wrong disk failed to install. I mean come on folks this is not rocket science you came SO close to making it easy then yanked to carpet out from under me. How about next go around if you're going to have multiple disks to install from telling me what disk is required when I select my packages for install. At least I won't need to go through my entire drive trying to find a package that didn't get installed. I've been with Mandrake for quiet some time now and have no intention of leaving but I'm running out of hair to loose trying to figure out something that should have been a no brainer. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
[expert] 7.1 install / kernel parameters
Hi there, I'm having a hard time installing Mandrake 7.1 on a Sony Vaio PCG-N505X (that's one of these small subnotebooks). To install, the kernel needs to know that the CD-ROM is on a tertiary IDE-controller, i.e. you need a kernel parameter like ide2=0x180,0x386,15 With older versions of Mandrake it was possible to pass this parameter at boot time (e.g. for 7.0 you'd give it a "linux ide2=0x180,0x386,15 expert" at the prompt). But with 7.1 this doesn't seem to work anymore (I think I've tried all permutations with the expert and other install kernels). It simply boots into the second stage install, doesn't configure ide2 in the process, and not finding any, asks me what kind of CD-ROM I have (SCSI? Other?). Of course, then it's too late to configure the tertiary IDE controller... Any ideas? Cheers, René
Re: [expert] Wooow
Actually a 2 button with the wheel configured to be the third, but what I was saying is there are some things like web pages that do the whole damn thing in images. Graphics of text don't exaclty cut and paste into vi. (Ever seen a 10,000 word essay as a giant gif, I have) -David Talbot At 09:02 AM 6/16/00 +0930, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: when you click on the menubar (Very helpful for trying to type in something you see on a web page as an image or something equally un-cut-and-paste. ? un cut and paste? - are you using a 2 button mouse? try outlining what you want to copy, then go to the receiving window (where you want to paste) and click the middle button of a 3 button mouse, or click both left and right buttons of 2 button mouse. The following was cut n pasted from netscrape: from slashdot and (my personal favorite) support for encrypting your swap space. Theo and the gang have also expanded the ports and packages collections considerably, so get 'em while they're hot!" (More.) -- +++ Allen Bolderoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] LNC - Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Civilme and friends: I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in all the mirror sites. Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-loup Gailly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 Benjamin wrote: Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. Thanks for your report. Response from Jean-loup Gailly: "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." Jean-loup Gailly He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure that all mirrors are functioning properly. Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness should finally be over. Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their Mandrake. And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this fatal FTP download bug. I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing them of this situation. I hope he does. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
I think y'all are attributing some sinister motives here that prob'ly aren't deserved. I installed 7.1 from lland.com 2 Cd's just a few day's ago. When I was asked for a 3rd CD, I just lied and clicked OK anyhow. Install said, 'can't find' the files and went online to d/l 'em. When I saw it was just going for Nutscrape-128, I cancelled the d/l. Install went on to finnish... no problem. Total Install was still 2.6 gigs. I don't believe there's that much stuff from 'Power Pack' I could possibly be missing ;- -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, you wrote: Ray wrote: I think it is a great feature that you can use the same install to install the powerpack. They are not pushing anythng you can uncheck them real easy... Added funtionality and people assume the worst. I would love to be able to pick all of my packages at one time to install Silly me, why didn't I think of that. Of course I did just that and then I rechecked the "Applications" selection not knowing that there was another UNSUPPORTED disk thinking that perhaps someone might have simply mislabeled the disk and "Extras" might have been "Applications". If you're going to offer 4 disk's then support ALL of them not just the ones that make you more money by being packaged in a power pack, if you're not going to support this "Extras" disk SAY SO it sure would have saved a lot of "rant mail". This disk was clearly labeled MANDRAKE if it was not one of yours then you need to contact the distributor (www.lsl.com) if it is one of yours then how about supporting it. As it stands I now have NO IDEA what did and did not get installed (thanks), the install gave absolutely no clue what selecting the wrong disk failed to install. I mean come on folks this is not rocket science you came SO close to making it easy then yanked to carpet out from under me. How about next go around if you're going to have multiple disks to install from telling me what disk is required when I select my packages for install. At least I won't need to go through my entire drive trying to find a package that didn't get installed. I've been with Mandrake for quiet some time now and have no intention of leaving but I'm running out of hair to loose trying to figure out something that should have been a no brainer. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
Re: [expert] Helix-update in 7.1
And they are the lucky ones in rural Kentucky we have a blazing 24K wire (intermitant at that). Lucky to have voice lines here! The all knowing "data technician" from BellSouth told me so!! May have to go to the big city and rent a motel room and do an all night download fest! Where are them damn satellites when you need them?? vern Allen Bolderoff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Don't see a point why the Helixupdate should be included in distribution. maybe not everyone has a T1 to the net? some people (in australia for example) pay for every MB they receive, *and* have to download over 33.6K modems. That in itself is a good enough reason to include it. -- +++ Allen Bolderoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] LNC - Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
Well I just added a WD Ultra ATA-66 hard drive to my setup. I have an Intel 810 chipset, am I in trouble?? Not knowing much about hardware timing and all! vern PS. It's on a ASUS mobo that HP hacked for the Pavilion series of PC's, HP also hacked the BIOS so I can't turn off the on board video! :-( Civileme wrote: tal amir wrote: Yes it is :-) Original Message On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66: Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Yes, it is, BUT ABIT B_6 boards require special LILO settings for their installation on ATA66 to work properly Anything but the newest WD disks will give you all sorts of errors if you set them to DMA/UDMA Some board chipsets do not work well with the PCI controller card. So, knowing those things, prepare for an education in BIOSes and HDDs and Disk controllers if you are in the 40% who need to do special things. Civileme
[expert] router
Hello I am configuring a dual homed gateway as a router and have some problems. the configuration is that I have a subnet of three computers with one having two nic's. I want the other two computers one nic of the router to be connected to the hub and the other nic to the switch connceting to the outside world( internet) I want the two nic's to use the dual homed gateway as thier router. Just wondering do I need to configure it as a static router or can I use dynamic IP routing software? If I am configuiring it as a static router do I need to have some configuration changes for the main dynmic router which is the router for the outside world. Thanks in advance .. Jawwad Shamsi __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
RE: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
Also you might want to "su -" the "-" will allow the person to inherent root's environment this also goes for any user you want to su to example "su - eric". Please also note you have to be su'ed already. i.e. "Note the names have been changed to protect the innocent." login: eric Password:*** Last login: Fri Jun 16 07:07:57 from somewere.on.the.net [eric@test eric]$ su - Password:*** [root@test /root]# su - user1 [user1@test user1]$ cheers, Eric Peters Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Admin Network Operations Inherent Technologies Inc. office (503)224-6751 ext 224 -Original Message- From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question ! On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 - Andre Steden, you wrote: | Hello, | | if i login as root an console 1 and want to switch to another user with | su frank | i get : | bash: /dev/tty1: permission denied | (with Mandrake 7.1) | | i tried the same with Mdk7.0 - there is no such message. | | bye | -- | Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just tried this with 7.0, and got the "permission denied" responce as well. Try becomming a superuser, then the other user and it will work - but you will still be logged onto your first user's home folder. So using user1 and user2 for the two user id's, when you log in as yourself, you will see [user1@localhost user1], then become the superuser, [root@localhost user1], and filally become the second user, [user2@localhost user1] If I understand correctly, the denial of permission to direct user id changes is a security feature which keeps regular users from switching their identity at will (even if you know the second user's passsword). If you know another user's id and password, this is not much of a hindrence, but it is still an inconvenience to have to log out and then back in as the other user. However it does prevent non authorized user id changes. HTH, -- ___ Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] 7.1 ISDN card configuration.
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 11:47:05AM +0200, Joachim Holst (QCS) wrote: Hi ! Just wonder if there isn't a tool (except /usr/local/bin/isdn) for configuring an internal ISDN card in Drake 7.1? Been using RedHat previously, and they have something called isdn-config to do the job.. /Jocke! Hello Joachim, i made my own isdn4k-utils and isdn-config packages that work with Mandrake 7.1 from the source redhat packages. If you are interested i will mail it to you... -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB
Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: What does "(ext2) is designed properly, so there's no need" mean? No filesystem can be designed to eliminate fragmentation. If you are constantly "churning" on your disk, especially if your disk is 80% full, it *will* become fragged. Of course, high speed disks, high speed CPUs and lots of RAM for cache will minimize fragmentation's effect... Of course, since I have high speed disks, high speed CPUs and lots of RAM for cache, and the disks are 80% full, and I don't "churning" on my disks, I don't defrag my disks. The way that Linux allocates files, the filesystem fragmentation is kept EXTREMELY low. If you do a manual FSCK on your file system, you'll see at most 3-5% non-contiguous, except in EXTREMELY rare situations. While there ARE degrag utils for EXT2, they are generally not necessary, as the O/S doesn't, as a rule, become fragmented in the first place. John Does it use it use (what VMS calls) the "Contiguous Best Try"? In other words, contiguous if possible, and if possible, in as few fragments as possible? Ron -- +--+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com| | Most underused word: think | +--+
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Ray wrote: I think it is a great feature that you can use the same install to install the powerpack. They are not pushing anythng you can uncheck them real easy... Added funtionality and people assume the worst. I would love to be able to pick all of my packages at one time to install Silly me, why didn't I think of that. Of course I did just that and then I rechecked the "Applications" selection not knowing that there was another UNSUPPORTED disk thinking that perhaps someone might have simply mislabeled the disk and "Extras" might have been "Applications". If you're going to offer 4 disk's then support ALL of them not just the ones that make you more money by being packaged in a power pack, if you're not going to support this "Extras" disk SAY SO it sure would have saved a lot of "rant mail". This disk was clearly labeled MANDRAKE if it was not one of yours then you need to contact the distributor (www.lsl.com) if it is one of yours then how about supporting it. As it stands I now have NO IDEA what did and did not get installed (thanks), the install gave absolutely no clue what selecting the wrong disk failed to install. I mean come on folks this is not rocket science you came SO close to making it easy then yanked to carpet out from under me. You need to go in text mode to figure that out. Hit F1 on the opening disk boot screen and type "text expert " on the command line--That was a much more comfortable install for me. But the big thing is--it complains if a package is "not found", unlike the graphic mode. Also hidden under F1 is the fact (surprise) that the 7.1 install CD is a rescue disk--no floppies needed. Civileme How about next go around if you're going to have multiple disks to install from telling me what disk is required when I select my packages for install. At least I won't need to go through my entire drive trying to find a package that didn't get installed. I've been with Mandrake for quiet some time now and have no intention of leaving but I'm running out of hair to loose trying to figure out something that should have been a no brainer. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
"José Ignacio Alvear Zapata" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Ernie, i login as superuser! (root) on console 1 !! Then i want to switch to the user frank. su frank and i get the /dev/tty1 Permission denied. but the user id has changed... Why i get this message?? (with Mdk 7.1). Hi... If you are at root's $HOME, when you su to another user you are breaking permission rules (the other user should not have x, r or w permissions there). That's what the message is telling you (I think). Try "su - frank" instead of just "su frank" "man su" for details Lee -- | Lee Willis Fixed cost Internet access available @ | Application Developer http://www.plus.net | PlusNet Technologies Ltd +---"PlusNet - The smarter way to Internet"
Re: [expert] Grub?
Grub is a boot loadermuch like lilo... Original Message On 6/16/00, 3:06:45 AM, Daryl Pawluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] Grub?: "Michael H. Collins" wrote: Who or what is a grub? As I watch it being installed.. -- Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com Admiral of OpenSourcery Penguinista Navy All Things French.. Mandrake and XFCE Fun with the Austin Linux group http://www.austinlug.org Need a Real Texas Radio Fix? http://www.texasrebelradio.comgrub is grub is a bootstrap loader like lilo.
Re: [expert] Netscape problem
Set your homepage to "about:" at edit---preferencesnavigator Original Message On 6/16/00, 3:11:03 AM, Daryl Pawluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] Netscape problem: Daniel Hammer wrote: BS''D - On 12 Jun, TK Kim wrote: - Neither. - I am kinda sick of Netscape, too. I am probably gonna have to pay for - saying this, but IE5 is a wholelot better browser. does anybody know how I can get rid of an annoing message which -- under gnome -- netscape brings everytime I open a new browser-window: "netscape is unable to locate the server (no name specified) please check the servr name and try again" this happens when I use dhcp and/or when the IP is fixed there is no apache running on my machine Any suggestions Best, Daniel. i presume you have helix-gnome installed. if you look at the command that's being executed, i don't have it handy at the moment, you'll see some kind of weird script being executed. replace this with netscape or netscape-communicator with no arguments and the problem will go away. it's the lack of apache that causes the problem.
[expert] Installing Apache Verisign Certificates
(Smacking myself on the head) This was a renewal certificate. I installed the origional last year and this one was an update. So while I was running in circles attempting to generate a new private key, it wanted the same private key we used last year for this year's certificate. Sig I've installed 20-30 certs in my day and I feel like a retard for missing this. Solved my own problem. -David Talbot
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, you wrote: Tomif you mean things like Star Office, Worperfect, VMWare, Acrobat Reader, IglooFTP, IBM-Via Voice, MPEG-TV and all of the Loki demo's, then sure, nobody'll miss any of those. :-) Alan point well taken ;) Tom Brinkman wrote: I think y'all are attributing some sinister motives here that prob'ly aren't deserved. I installed 7.1 from lland.com 2 Cd's just a few day's ago. When I was asked for a 3rd CD, I just lied and clicked OK anyhow. Install said, 'can't find' the files and went online to d/l 'em. When I saw it was just going for Nutscrape-128, I cancelled the d/l. Install went on to finnish... no problem. Total Install was still 2.6 gigs. I don't believe there's that much stuff from 'Power Pack' I could possibly be missing ;- -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, you wrote: Ray wrote: I think it is a great feature that you can use the same install to install the powerpack. They are not pushing anythng you can uncheck them real easy... Added funtionality and people assume the worst. I would love to be able to pick all of my packages at one time to install Silly me, why didn't I think of that. Of course I did just that and then I rechecked the "Applications" selection not knowing that there was another UNSUPPORTED disk thinking that perhaps someone might have simply mislabeled the disk and "Extras" might have been "Applications". If you're going to offer 4 disk's then support ALL of them not just the ones that make you more money by being packaged in a power pack, if you're not going to support this "Extras" disk SAY SO it sure would have saved a lot of "rant mail". This disk was clearly labeled MANDRAKE if it was not one of yours then you need to contact the distributor (www.lsl.com) if it is one of yours then how about supporting it. As it stands I now have NO IDEA what did and did not get installed (thanks), the install gave absolutely no clue what selecting the wrong disk failed to install. I mean come on folks this is not rocket science you came SO close to making it easy then yanked to carpet out from under me. How about next go around if you're going to have multiple disks to install from telling me what disk is required when I select my packages for install. At least I won't need to go through my entire drive trying to find a package that didn't get installed. I've been with Mandrake for quiet some time now and have no intention of leaving but I'm running out of hair to loose trying to figure out something that should have been a no brainer. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227 -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Floppy disk mounting problems
Hi, I'm using Mandrake 7.0 on a laptop. My laptop has a removable CD and a removable floppy. THe CD is in there most of the time but if I do a df, the command hangs for a long time because it's trying to stat /mnt/floppy, even though the drive isn't there. This also causes problems with gtop. Anyone have an ida how I can correct this problem? Hi.. I got my own method... try to turn off supermount of the /dev/fd0! modify /etc/fstab /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0 Rgds Kit KB Computer Technology Co.
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
vernthe cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned individually by a CD-R usually in-house. The pre-oder is because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000 or more) and ship it to CheapBytes. Alan vern wrote: I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Civilme and friends: I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in all the mirror sites. Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-loup Gailly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 Benjamin wrote: Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. Thanks for your report. Response from Jean-loup Gailly: "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." Jean-loup Gailly He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure that all mirrors are functioning properly. Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness should finally be over. Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their Mandrake. And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this fatal FTP download bug. I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing them of this situation. I hope he does. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Mdk71 - su question !
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 07:46:40AM +, José Ignacio Alvear Zapata wrote: Hello Ernie, i login as superuser! (root) on console 1 !! Then i want to switch to the user frank. su frank and i get the /dev/tty1 Permission denied. but the user id has changed... Why i get this message?? (with Mdk 7.1). bye -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB Hi... If you are at root's $HOME, when you su to another user you are breaking permission rules (the other user should not have x, r or w permissions there). That's what the message is telling you (I think). José Alvear Hi José, no it has nothing to do with the directory. I think it is a problem with the permissions of the /dev/tty1 device. -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB
RE: [expert] What monitor to use for a DELL Laptop
Eric Peters writes: Hey gang I'm sitting here installing 7.1 on my boss's laptop which is a dell inspiron 7000 with an ATI Mach64 w/ 4 megs of memory. but when I choose any lcd panel or monitor the test screen dose come up but the panel is acting like the refresh rate is way low (i.e. when you see computer monitors on the TV) any ideas? cheers, --- Eric Peters Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Admin Network Operations Inherent Technologies Inc. office (503)224-6751 ext 224 When I installed Mandrake 6 on my Inspiron 7000 last summer, I found the information at http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/ to be most helpful. My video is an ATI Rage LT Pro. I believe that Dell has used several different video cards in the Inspiron. I had to downgrade my bios to an earlier version and use a patched XF86_Mach64. However, I'm currently using XF86_Mach64 from XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-4mdk (unpatched Mandrake 7.0), although my bios is still the downgraded version. Dell was no help at all. Their response was the the Inspiron 7000 is a Windows machine --- it even says on the case "designed for Microsoft Windows." Nevertheless, Linux really works fine on it, in spite of the difficulty in getting the video to work. You might also find http://www.egroups.com/group/linux-dell-laptops/ useful. Good Luck, Shelby Brumelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] SSL Verisign Certificates
I'm trying to install a verisign certificate on apache 1.3.9, mod_ssl, openssl, jserv I have the certificate from verisign, but the only instructions on installation given are for RedHat and it doesn't seem to be working. I have the cert.cer and I need openssl to generate the pem file... help! -david talbot
[expert] Mdk7.1 - missing SRPMs
Hello, it seems that a lot or SRPMS are missing on the mirrors. Where can i get the missing packages? -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB
Re: [expert] Old Netscape and Java
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.51. Whenever I go to a site that uses Java Netscape kills itself. Any idea on how to fix this or do I need to install a newer version of Netscape? Thanks. Turn off Java. Trust me on this! :-) John
[expert] Binding sound to $DISPLAY
G'day All, I know a console consists of a display, keyboard, mouse combination and these are also assigned to the $DISPLAY var during an X session. Thing is, on my home net I have a server (with heaps of mem hd space) and an old Compaq Pressario (very limited resources) set up as a client. I usually operate from the client. To save resources I'm running X remotely from the server. It works great except any apps that have sound involved play the sound on the server rather than the client. This is pretty useless when I'm several rooms away, is there a way I can bind the sound with the other $DISPLAY devices so it is also plays on the box where the app is being displayed ? Many Thanx RaStuS
Re: [expert] Post-upgrade blues
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, you wrote: BTW, why does IMWheel leave its root-only PID file in the /tmp directory after Root logs out? Real bitch to SU in a terminal just to let imwheel run normally as a user. chmod a+x imwheel will fix that. Then, ANYONE will be able to use imwheel. John
RE: [expert] router
The "gateway" router will need a static route of 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 "isp ip-address" or, if dhcp assigned, "eth0 - substitute actual interface name" (all without quotes of course). The inside computers will need a static route (or default gateway for MS Windows) of 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 "ip-address of gateway inside interface". It is rarely a good idea to run a routing protocol, like RIP, to the Internet. The ISP definitely won't like it and it is a security hole. Your network has only one IP network, so you don't need a routing protocol on the inside either. Speaking of holes, you didn't mention any plans for IP packet filtering (firewall or IP-chains). I sense from your plans you are getting cable-modem or XDSL access. These are "always-on" devices and present a wonderful opportunity to even the most novice of hackers. I love Mandrake, but you might do well to check out LRP (Linux Router Project). Its a floppy-based router with firewalling and supports ethernet-to-ethernet and ethernet-to-ppp with dial-on-demand routing. If you don't want to learn about micro kernels, check out share-the-net. STN is a windows based utility that writes a linux boot/run floppy like LRP, but it costs $70.00. -Original Message- From: J A Shamsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] router Hello I am configuring a dual homed gateway as a router and have some problems. the configuration is that I have a subnet of three computers with one having two nic's. I want the other two computers one nic of the router to be connected to the hub and the other nic to the switch connceting to the outside world( internet) I want the two nic's to use the dual homed gateway as thier router. Just wondering do I need to configure it as a static router or can I use dynamic IP routing software? If I am configuiring it as a static router do I need to have some configuration changes for the main dynmic router which is the router for the outside world. Thanks in advance .. Jawwad Shamsi __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[expert] Java servlets
Hello Which package(s) should I install if I want Java Servlets on my web server? The server is now working just fine with PHP and now I want to try java servlets. I prefer rpms insteed of compiling the program myself. / Martin
Re: [expert] lilo
Hi ! As i mentioned is one of the replys to this massage , i did not change any defenitions in my bios settings since system installation. When booting with a floppy , everything is ok. Original Message On 6/16/00, 11:44:44 AM, Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] lilo: tal amir wrote: Hey you guy's ! :-) when booting lilo (mdk 7.1) i am getting : li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 all over my screen note the "li" - lilo is trying to load but cannot... any thought's ? 04--can't find sector Your BIOS and the installation do not agree on the geometry of your hard disk Try different BIOS settings, LBA is most likely the right one, but if it doesn't work try NORMAL or LARGE Civileme
Re: [expert] lilo
Hi! i did not change any settings in my bios since i installed mandrake... in fact , this happened from the first boot after installation... :( when running lilo i get : [root@webug /root]# lilo Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk Added linux * Added failsafe Added floppy [root@webug /root] my primary disk (as you can see) is not hda but hdd... i had some problems installing it as primary, so it's configured as secondary slave.. think that could be the reason ?? Original Message On 6/16/00, 12:26:23 PM, "Juan A. Magallon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] lilo: At 02:35 + 2000/06/16, tal amir wrote: Hey you guy's ! :-) when booting lilo (mdk 7.1) i am getting : li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 Suffered from that sometimes: two possible causes: - You booted with some different BIOS setting for your hard drive when running lilo and when trying to boot with the kernel lilo intalled (say you booted with disk in LBA mode, and then rebooted in LARGE or NORMAL) - You changed kenel (usuallly /vmlinuz or /boot/vmlinuz) without re-running lilo. Or you ran lilo and it didn't found the default kernel you specified in lilo.conf Take a look to the error messages when running lilo Good Luck. -- Juan Antonio Magallon Lacarta mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grupo de Informatica Grafica Avanzada http://giga.cps.unizar.es Tlf: 34-976-762354,1916 - Fax: 34-976-761914
[expert] ePatents
I was pleasantly surprised to see the banner on the linux-mandrake home page regarding a petition for no ePatents. This makes me wonder, where is the American equivalent? It is in fact the U. S. Patent and Trademark Office that is one of the biggest embarassments of the digital age. If you want to consider this off-topic, or you already know why there should be no ePatents, read no further. SCENARIO: An individual working somewhere comes up with a neat little algorithm to do something useful. He publishes it on the internet, and lots of other people think it is useful, too and incorporate it into their software. It is an algorithm based on a mathematical fact, and it has been offered to the public, so no copyright is possible. Enter the Technology Company. It doesn't produce anything. It is a CEO and two battalions of lawyers, and a couple secretaries to handle correwspondence and a computer operator to run the bookkeeping system. They go to this individual and say, "Hay, what a neat idea. Did you know you could patent it? We'll help you for $10,000 and when the patent is granted we'll pay you $50,000 for it." So the patent is applied for and granted and the rights are assigned and $40,000 changes hands (The $50,000 less the $10,000 "fee".) Now the technology company holds the patent rights to software ALREADY in use (but not in use for a full year before the patent application). The patent might be worthless. It is based on a mathematical fact, after all, and built on public domain knowledge, but to prove it is worthless, someone is going to have to go to court, and spend between 2 million and 200 million dollars in a 10-15 year fight to prove it. Everyone working in the industry is either aware of this or has a lawyer who will advise him of it. Now the technology company approaches the Company A, which is using software or selling software which contains the algorithm, and proposes a licensing fee. The management of Company A has to decide among three choices a) stop using the algorithm, no matter the cost (and this includes pre-sold software which would have to be recalled and reparations made for the use of the algorithm by the customers). b) Pay the licensing fee, even for a long-term agreement (the life of the patent), or c) risk the company's money on a court battle where you lose even if you win. Now which do you think they will choose. The owners/managers of Company A are in a position nearly identical to the candy store owner in an inner city ghetto who is approached by the ruling gang and asked to buy insurance against vandalism. In this case, it's "Pay up or we'll destroy your life and wreck your company in court." as opposed to, "pay up or we'll burn down your business and break your legs." But the Technology company is by no means done. Obviously, since the algorithm enjoyed a brief period of apparent freedom, it is reasonable to assume that there is yet "pirate" software out there NOT LICENSED and paying a fee. If this algorithm produces something that can be placed on web sites... Dear Web site Owner/Operator: THe BBB Technology Company holds the patent rights to the software for producing widgetform fluxawarbles which have gained great popularity on the world wide web. Since there are unlicensed programs that utilize the patented algorithm for the production of widgetform fluxawarbles, there is a potential infringement on your site from any of your customers who may have placed unlicensed fluxawarbles there. I am writing this to inform you of an opportunity to avoid any potential litigation from possibly unlicensed fluxawarbles on your web hosting service for a one-time license fee the nominal sum of $17,500. Please make your check payable to the BBB Technology Company and amil it today. Thank you in advance for your early payment. Yours very truly, I. M. Suing Chief, Lawyer battalion 417 And what does that mean to Joe Programmer? JOe has to research the algorithms granted patents, the filfe formats granted patents, and then perhaps pay an attorney to research faster, better and further amongst the myriad of ePatents -- and for what? So Joe Programmer can write, "hello, world" version 3. Scientists, including computer scientists, shopuld be allowed to stand on each other's shoulders. That is what is of highest and best interest to the public and to science. Instead, the current patent morass and proprietary software has computer scientists standing on each other's feet. And, until we find a better system and implement it, the situation will worsen rather than improve. Please, go sign the petition. Please,, someone, let's get an American version of the petition going. We are one of the biggest parts of the problem, thanks to the embarassment of an understaffed PTO whose policy is, "Grant it, and let the courts decide if it is valid." Civileme
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
Bonjour! You're really making this more difficult than necessary. All you need is the first box checked, didn't it say extra like on the paper envelope that the disc was in? The second and third check boxes say applications, you didn't want those did you? -- Armand "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Greets all, I purchased mandrake 7.1 disk 1 and 2 from www.lsl.com and installed last night. My question is, during the install (custom/workstation/install) I was asked which of 3 additional disks did I have and none of the titles given for the three matched that which was on either of my disks (Mandrake 7.1 Install i586 and Mandrake 7.1 Extras i586). [snip] -- Fri Jun 16 10:25:00 MDT 2000
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
I started installing MDK 7.1 last night and *YES* it does support the PCI Promise Ultra66 PCI controller card!! In case you can't tell, I'm very excited that I didn't have to feed the I/O numbers to the kernel in order to make it see the Ultra66 card. ...After getting to 98% completion, I decided to say yes to the XFree86 4.0, then my PC locked up. Matt From: "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Promise ATA-66 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:35:45 +0100 Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[expert] lilo
Heya all ! Can lilo boot from hdb ? My primary disk is configurd as hdb cause i had problems to config it as primary... tried to tell lilo to boot from hdb and all i get is li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 any thought's ?
Re: [expert] Mdk7.1 - missing SRPMs
What rpms are you looking 4 ? maybe we can help. Original Message On 6/16/00, 7:49:43 PM, Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Mdk7.1 - missing SRPMs: Hello, it seems that a lot or SRPMS are missing on the mirrors. Where can i get the missing packages? -- Andre Steden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG ID: 332441FB
[expert] supermount vs. automount/autofs
I am confused about supermount vs. automount/autofs. They seem very similar by looking at the man pages, but apparently they are different. Right? The install of 7.1 has autofs as a possible service to start, and I guess that I was confused about it vs. supermount so left it checked to start. So it is running, but do I want it running because of supermount? Could this be the cause of some of the funny unable to eject zip disk or device busy messages I am getting? Thanks, Norm
[expert] (OT) most annoying system slowdown
Hi. This really baffles me: since yesterday my system slows down to a crawl every 30 secs to every 20 min, usually starting about 10 min after boot. And I mean scrawl: I have to wait for typed characters to appear on the screen. I think it gets worse with system uptime. 'top' shows no unusual activity, hdparm -tT however shows a huge altitude in 'buffered disk reads' from 20 MB/s (the usual) down to 13 MB/s. And there's nothing running except for X, WindowMaker, 2 terms and Postfix! No probs before with exactly the same configuration. No kernel change. Some specs: Mandrake 7.0 on an IBM U²W disk, controlled by a Tekram U²W 390. Celery 466 on an Asus P3BF mainboard, graphics card is a Matrox G400 Marvel. There is also an ISDN card, a Soundblaster and a ne2000 network card (all pci). Phenomena which might be related: imwheel doesn't work anymore and power off on shutdown only sometimes (this for quite a while now). Rebooting the machine usually fails, since the monitor won't initialize. I have to turn the machine off and on again to reboot (since a few days). Windows 98 (which lives on an IDE disk) lags when showing DVDs (also since yesterday). So it might not be the SCSI HD (which is fairly new). Has someone here encountered this, or has some idea what to do to narrow down the source of the problem? G*d, I wish I could get rid of this crappy x86 stuff :-\. Someone to donate an Alpha? ;) Thanks and regards tom -- Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ "Outside? Outside what?" (http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=2612mode=classic) All advice provided without warranty of any kind. I *may* be wrong ...
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, you wrote: tal amir wrote: Yes it is :-) Original Message On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66: Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Yes, it is, BUT ABIT B_6 boards require special LILO settings for their installation on ATA66 to work properly Not correct, I use LILO without any options, just make a ~10MB boot partition and mount it under /boot and install LILO on it (when using older LILO versions, make sure it is located beneath the 1024th cilinder). Also, using the special LILO reverse options, can render some troubles with some PCI cards / SCSI controllers, like eg. the SB Live! (not sure if that is fixed now). Anything but the newest WD disks will give you all sorts of errors if you set them to DMA/UDMA Also using DMA for ATA-pi devices for the Highpoint HPT366 (HotRod) or Promise 20262 is not advisable (for playing DVD etc.). So make sure your DMA using ATA-pi devices are located on the Intel controller. Also many Maxtor drives won't work properly on the non-intel ATA66 controllers, the best option is to reprogram the drives to ATA33 and put them on the Intel controller. Some board chipsets do not work well with the PCI controller card. So, knowing those things, prepare for an education in BIOSes and HDDs and Disk controllers if you are in the 40% who need to do special things. Civileme Cheers, -- /* Manuël Beunder. - http://how.to/sblive the SB Live! Linux page - 'You must be the change you wish to see in this world. -Gandi' */
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
What vga card are you using ? Original Message On 6/16/00, 11:23:46 PM, "M Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66: I started installing MDK 7.1 last night and *YES* it does support the PCI Promise Ultra66 PCI controller card!! In case you can't tell, I'm very excited that I didn't have to feed the I/O numbers to the kernel in order to make it see the Ultra66 card. ...After getting to 98% completion, I decided to say yes to the XFree86 4.0, then my PC locked up. Matt From: "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Promise ATA-66 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:35:45 +0100 Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Can NOT change Desktop icons
TK Kim wrote: I tried to change the icon of the symlinks on my desktop, btw the icons are different from those of 'root' after installing Helix Gnome 1.2. I would go into property of a symlink and change the icons, but no effect. And, i checked the permission and it's alright. Anyone had the same problem? Any ideas? Thanks Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Check the permissions for the .kderc in your home/user directory. 73, Don
Re: [expert] Binding sound to $DISPLAY
You can use esound, the Enlightenment Sound Daemon (Comes with Mandrake). You'll have to do some RTFM, and problably use gnome, since kde does not support it. I've seen it work, it's fantastic, however I never tried it, so you're on your own. Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, RaStuS wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:54:18 +1000 From: RaStuS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Binding sound to $DISPLAY G'day All, I know a console consists of a display, keyboard, mouse combination and these are also assigned to the $DISPLAY var during an X session. Thing is, on my home net I have a server (with heaps of mem hd space) and an old Compaq Pressario (very limited resources) set up as a client. I usually operate from the client. To save resources I'm running X remotely from the server. It works great except any apps that have sound involved play the sound on the server rather than the client. This is pretty useless when I'm several rooms away, is there a way I can bind the sound with the other $DISPLAY devices so it is also plays on the box where the app is being displayed ? Many Thanx RaStuS
Re: [expert] where is the Mandrake 7.0 kernel update?!?!?!
Do you mean even if and when we receive our "new" Mandrake 7.1 versions in the mail, we will have to upgrade the kernel??? vern Denis HAVLIK wrote: :~ :~Oh well... At least I've got a copy of mandrake 7.1 coming in the mail... Kind of nice, but you will still have to upgrade the kernel :-( cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] HP Pavilion 6470Z
Civileme, I'm just very thankful I didn't get caught up in the i820 turmoil. My first "new" computer in ten years! HP ain't what it used to be! :-) vern PS It sounds as though I need to steer clear of Xfree 4.0!! Civileme wrote: vern wrote: Same experience here with a HP 6540C, nomo Riptide! I've tripled the RAM, and tripled the HD space. The only thing I had to work at was getting the Intel 810 video to work. Intel has the drivers you need (agpart.o module). Be sure to download the instructions with the module/server/driver type files. Vern Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm looking at potentially installing linux on an HP Pavilion 6470Z and I wanted to know how well Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 load the hardware. Anyone have any install experience with one of these? Don't know about the 6470Z model, but I had it installed on my 4450. Did not get sound/modem to work (Rockwell RipTide combo card -- winmodem crapola) Everything else worked OK though. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Vern, you'll love 7.1. No more downloading 810 drivers 7.1 does a marvelous job on i810 except for Xfree4.0 Civileme
[expert] pcmcia and compact flash
I'm running a Sony Z505S laptop with Mandrake 7.0. I've got a new digital camera with a compact flash (CF) memory card (formatted as a DOS fs), but am having trouble configuring the laptop to accept the card. The symptom is a complete system lockup when the card is inserted into the pcmcia slot; seems to require pulling the battery to get the system back. I've made a couple of stabs at configuring cardmgr and one or two loadable modules, but I've not used the pcmcia slot until now so I'm not sure what is required. The lockup happens without anything being logged to /var/log/messages. Does anyone have some suggestions for a configuration, for a troubleshooting strategy, or for the right place to get info? TIA - Tom -- Thomas Lockhart Caltech/JPL Interferometry Systems and Technology
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
Okay Alan, thanks! I learn more each day, I hope they will stand behind these disks too. This is my first try with CheapBytes I hope it's not "too good to be true". Thanks again! vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: vernthe cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned individually by a CD-R usually in-house. The pre-oder is because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000 or more) and ship it to CheapBytes. Alan vern wrote: I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan
Re: [expert] pcmcia and compact flash
Tom, I had a similar problem on my laptop. ( a Libretto running Mandrake ) with my 3com ethernet card. I tested the card on several other laptops and found that it was the card not my setup. Every time I inserted it BANG the system was totally locked up. No access at all. I would check out if the problem is the same on other laptops and if so, replace the card, quick before the warranty runs out. :-) James At 06:40 PM 6/16/00, you wrote: I'm running a Sony Z505S laptop with Mandrake 7.0. I've got a new digital camera with a compact flash (CF) memory card (formatted as a DOS fs), but am having trouble configuring the laptop to accept the card. The symptom is a complete system lockup when the card is inserted into the pcmcia slot; seems to require pulling the battery to get the system back. I've made a couple of stabs at configuring cardmgr and one or two loadable modules, but I've not used the pcmcia slot until now so I'm not sure what is required. The lockup happens without anything being logged to /var/log/messages. Does anyone have some suggestions for a configuration, for a troubleshooting strategy, or for the right place to get info? TIA - Tom -- Thomas Lockhart Caltech/JPL Interferometry Systems and Technology
Re: [expert] lilo
You will have to boot from your floppy. Then open your console and login as SU. From there, just type "lilo" + enter and you're done. It should reboot without the floppy. I get this once in awhile with my Lin/Win boxes. Seve -Original Message- From: LinuxMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: [expert] lilo Heya all ! Can lilo boot from hdb ? My primary disk is configurd as hdb cause i had problems to config it as primary... tried to tell lilo to boot from hdb and all i get is li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 any thought's ?
Re: [expert] Missing RPM?
All, Ok I've answered my own question. It seems to be a link problem in the menu. If I go to Configure Other MenuEdit I get the menu editor. If I go to Panel Edit Menu It tells me that the menu editor isn't installed. H guess I need to file a bug report. The Panel icon of course isn't editable arrrggghh. Thanks At 07:05 PM 6/16/00, you wrote: All, With 7.1 installed. and finally running I've been "tweeking" kde etc to my liking and I've run into two problems. First the rpm install from kdepackage of the secure kernel patch had some real trouble, It wouldn't complete the install. I went into shell forced it to re-install ran ln -sf to make the links and now all is fine. The second one is one I haven't figured out. I seem to have lost the ability to edit menu items. It simple gives me a popup error stating that the menu editor is not installed. I've checked and except for some games PPP and ISDN programs I've got all of KDE installed. Does anyone know what RPM should give me the menu editor? Otherwise all goes well so far. James P.S. Thanks for the help in advance
RE: [expert] lilo
When you run lilo and is says: Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk it is telling you "I will write the boot program to /dev/hdb but your BIOS will probably never look for the boot loader on hard drive B!" You are probably booting the lilo on /dev/hda which now points to a kernel that is no longer in the correct place on the disk. I did this too. I had to boot my old Slackware system from a floppy for a very long time. I finally figured it out. I you have one of the newer BIOS's, you may be able to set it up to boot from IDE-1 if that is really what you want. What I THINK you want is the boot loader (LILO) on /dev/hda (boot=/dev/hda) and change lilo.conf to use root=/dev/hdb1 (or /dev/hdb? whatever number ? is). Such as: elmo:/etc/named# less /etc/lilo.conf # LILO configuration file # generated by 'liloconfig' # # Start LILO global section boot = /dev/hda default = Slack96 #compact# faster, but won't work on all systems. delay = 100 vga = normal# force sane state ramdisk = 0 # paranoia setting # End LILO global section # Linux bootable partition config begins image = /vmlinuz root = /dev/hdb1 label = Slack96 read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking append = "max_scsi_luns=5" # Linux bootable partition config ends Hope this helps, Bill -Original Message- From: LinuxMan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] lilo Hi! i did not change any settings in my bios since i installed mandrake... in fact , this happened from the first boot after installation... :( when running lilo i get : [root@webug /root]# lilo Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk Added linux * Added failsafe Added floppy [root@webug /root] my primary disk (as you can see) is not hda but hdd... i had some problems installing it as primary, so it's configured as secondary slave.. think that could be the reason ?? Original Message On 6/16/00, 12:26:23 PM, "Juan A. Magallon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] lilo: At 02:35 + 2000/06/16, tal amir wrote: Hey you guy's ! :-) when booting lilo (mdk 7.1) i am getting : li 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 04 Suffered from that sometimes: two possible causes: - You booted with some different BIOS setting for your hard drive when running lilo and when trying to boot with the kernel lilo intalled (say you booted with disk in LBA mode, and then rebooted in LARGE or NORMAL) - You changed kenel (usuallly /vmlinuz or /boot/vmlinuz) without re-running lilo. Or you ran lilo and it didn't found the default kernel you specified in lilo.conf Take a look to the error messages when running lilo Good Luck. -- Juan Antonio Magallon Lacarta mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grupo de Informatica Grafica Avanzada http://giga.cps.unizar.es Tlf: 34-976-762354,1916 - Fax: 34-976-761914
Re: [expert] Laptop, pcmcia, and network
Well, that depend on how you set up a regular NIC, I guess. I set up my PCMCIA by hand using the scripts from RedHat 6.0 or so, but this is not the "Mandrake way." Basically, when you plug the PCMCIA in, it should be set up as eth0; you just have to configure eth0 using whatever GUI Mandrake supplies for configuring ethernet cards. Or at least that's how it should work; that's how it worked in RedHat 6.1, anyway. Eric Peters wrote: allo all, I'm a newbie to laptops and need some help setting up the network on it. It has a 3com pcmcia nic modle number 3ccfe57bt-d in it. And I'm not sure what the first step is? Do you net it up like a regular nic and if so what mod to use? Any help would be great. :) Thanx in advance, Cheers. Eric Peters Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Admin Network Operations Inherent Technologies Inc. office (503)224-6751 ext 224 -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
