Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 02:03 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Tuesday December 17 2002 01:36 am, Lorne wrote: > > On Monday 16 December 2002 10:47 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to > > > CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from > > > firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him > > > was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux > > > and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. > > > > What a crock! I guess you get what you pay for eh? I thought > > 180GB's for $179.00 was too good to be true. Well I guess I'll > > through it on my XP box and take a real drive and put in my linux > > box. Guess I've learned a lesson. > > It'll only last moments ;) The whole hardware deal (PC's) is > gettin to be a joke. One the big iron guys have always joked about. > Desktop hardware was an increasingly progressive target a few years > ago. Was startin to look real good. Lately, despite M$'s problems, > and the DoJ (even EU) perception that Billy's major crime was knee'n > NutScrape in the ba__ well... he's prevailin anyhow. He's > killed a lot of hardware, other than if you want to use it with his > software. > >In my perception it's been M$'s influence on hardware that's their > _real_crime_. More'n more of it is becomin software dependant > win-modems, win-harddrives, win-sound, win-printers, win-video, etc., > even lately, win-motherboards. Linux users gravitating towards an > acceptance of any hardware that needs proprietary closed source > drivers to work, or work fully ... are sheep being led to slaughter. > Even when it's called lin-hardware, or at least made somewhat usable > (eg, lin-nvidia). They're just vendor captive users, and add to the > ultimate problem. > >BTW, I gave $120 for a 80g Maxtor recently. Several years ago an > admission of buyin a Maxtor on an oc'rs group would have brought > deserved ridicule an laughs ... lately I can't find anything better. > It's gettin harder. Billy has lost a few battles lately, taken a draw > in others, but he's winning the war when he controls hardware. Mostly > not his own efforts, but due to user acceptance, apathy, and > ignorance. Ignorance of the fact that if it needs proprietary closed > software, when it shouldn't, to fully function, > ... it's fake-hardware. Acceptance and apathy follow hand'n hand. Well.. a guy used to be able to get SCSI hd's for about 10 to 20% more than IDE. Anymore THAT has gone bezerk! I REALLY would like to stick with SCSI, but just to get a 16gb drive is costing as much as the 180gb drives! What is going on with that? they are cheaper to build than IDE for crying out loud. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' on Toshiba 2400
Aw! As simple as that! Thanks, it works now. Dave On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:06:26PM +0200, Serge wrote: > Hi > > symlink /dev/dvd to /dev/cdrom > > > > ... > > > > Assigning raw devices: cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' (No such > > file or directory) > > -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IP
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 23:14, Brian York wrote: > How can i find out the ip address of a machine that has been assigned an ip > by DHCP. > > Thanks > Brian /sbin/ifconfig -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "If we wanted you to understand it, we wouldn't call it code." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] IP
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:14, Brian York wrote: > How can i find out the ip address of a machine that has been assigned an ip > by DHCP. > > Thanks > Brian /sbin/ip addr on the machine in question, or tail /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases on the server. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wierd unmount only permitted as root
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:35, J. Grant wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I am surprised that works, here chmod +s only gives user and group +s > so my normal user can still not run it. > > Any other ideas? I could use a script, but there must be something more > elegant > > Regards > > JG Here are the relevant permissions on /usr/bin/smb* (RedHat 8.0, remember): -rwsr-sr-x1 root root 548K Nov 20 11:18 /usr/bin/smbmnt -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 558K Nov 20 11:18 /usr/bin/smbmount -rwsr-sr-x1 root root 547K Nov 20 11:18 /usr/bin/smbumount Notice that smbmount does not have the setuid ("sticky") bit set, because it really just calls smbmnt anyway. The only one I have to change was smbumount, the others were already set. Now, here are my /bin/mount and /bin/umount perms: -rwsr-xr-x1 root root 80K Aug 30 15:00 /bin/mount -rwsr-xr-x1 root root 40K Aug 30 15:00 /bin/umount Neither of these have been changed from their defaults. Notice that root is both owner/user and group, as I assume they are on your Mandrake system. But with the sticky bit set (the 'chmod +s' trick), this causes the program to run with the permissions of the owner and/or group, whichever bit is set. So a user can run these programs, but the program actually runs with root authority, not just the user's authority. That's why I said this isn't a secure solution, but it works on my single-user laptop. If, after trying 'chmod +s umount', you still can't use umount -- well, I guess I really don't know why. Do you get any specific error messages, like maybe the command 'umount' is not found? Perhaps it simply isn't in your $PATH, but it is in root's $PATH. The error I originally got indicated that only root had permission to smbumount network filesystems. Thus, I fixed it by making it setuid root. Dave > > Dave Sherman wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:07, J. Grant wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm seeing some strange effects, this has been going on for a while, but > >>i've not got around to asking if there is a solution, basically, even > >>though I have "user" in my fstab I can only unmount my cdrom as root. > >> > >>Any ideas or solutions? > > > > > > I ran into a similar problem with RedHat 8.0 and Samba (couldn't unmount > > a share as a user, even though I had mounted the share as the same > > user), my solution was to (as root): > > # chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount > > > > I would think your solution would be to check /bin/mount and > > /bin/umount, and try the same thing on umount. > > > > This is not a secure solution, but it works on my (single-user) laptop. > -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "If we wanted you to understand it, we wouldn't call it code." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[expert] IP
How can i find out the ip address of a machine that has been assigned an ip by DHCP. Thanks Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] USB hard drive as backup
I'm thinking of buying a USB hard drive to use as a backup. Any reccomendations would be helpful. Brands, compatabilty, etc. I was considering Maxtor since it seems to be the drive du jour. BTW, I'm using LM9, two WD drives, ASUS mobo PIII 450mhz , two USB ports, ATI videocard, your basic homemade box. -- Jonathan Dlouhy Monday, December 16, 2002 Drink wet cement, and get completely stoned. Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 5:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Tuesday December 17 2002 03:01 am, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: > > On Monday 16 December 2002 12:47 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking > > > other that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as > > > Win-harddrives. > > > > > > As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin > > > Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a > > > reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. > > > The issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best > > > on an off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. > > > > > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to > > > CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from > > > firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him > > > was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux > > > and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. > > > > This topic has been covered extensively in the past. I sent a query > > to Western Digital regarding this issue of non-support. Here is > > their response: > > > > > > Response (Barb G) - 07/23/2002 07:58 AM > > Greetings Jonathan, > > Thank you for your email. > > We have no issues with Western Digital drives being installed with > > Linux or Unix. If you have more detailed information on specific > > issues, I would be happy to address them. Or, if you can provide > > the web site where these issues are being discussed we can address > > them to the customer. If your friends are having issues with a > > drive they should be contacting our technical support desk, or test > > the drive with our utilities. We do not warranty a drive based on > > the operating system used. Western Digital will honor the warranty > > on any drive in the event of a drive failure, as long as the drive > > is in warranty. If the drive carrys no warranty, or the warranty > > has expired, we cannot replace the drive. > > If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. > > > > Seems clear as far as WD is concerned. Personally, I have used > > their drives for many years with no problems at all. I currently > > have two 40 GIG, a 6 GIG and a 10 GIG WD drive. Also, a Seagate 40 > > GIG drive, which also works well but has always been very noisy. > > All Maxtor drives I have tried in the past have failed the first > > day I used them, all with unrecoverable bad sectors. > > > > Cheers, > >All that says is they'll replace it while still under warranty ... > which they're legally obligated to do anyhow (1 year?). A better > source of realistic appraisal is the lkml, or Google, or real users. > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=western+digital+CRC+chec >k&btnG=Google+Search > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You may or may not remember the events of august 1998. WD had a RMA > rate that rivals the one Fujitsu is now experiencing. The difference > could be that at least Fujitsu is now offering, according to news > reports, to RMA drives that have expired warranties, even 3 years, > even other vendor OEM system's they have no warranty exposure to. It > appears from your quoted email response that WD isn't willing in this > regard. If WD had to replace all their linux use drives ... what > would that be 2 maybe 3% ? Fujitsu is potentially lookin at 30 to > 50%. > >Gettin back to 1998. The perception then was that WD's were failin > on CRC. It was first noticed by overclockers (usin other than the > standard 33.3mhz PCI bus). At the time, IBM, Quantum, and specially > WD drives were favored by oc'rs as they best tolerated an out of spec > (call it oc'd if you must, but that's innaccurate) PCI bus speed. I > had pre '98 WD drives myself, all on off spec PCI. The popular test > then was to zip up about 600mb's, and then unzip. The files with > summer and later '98 WD drives, all of a sudden, were often corrupt. > The zip CRC check failed. Post 8/98 WD's immediately went to the > bottom of the barrel along with Maxtor's and Seagate's as drives to > be avoided by oc'rs. > > There seemed to be a stark change in WD drives. Later it became an > issue on OS's other than W9.x. Seems the CRC checks were removed from > the WD drives firmware, to be taken care of within software by the > OS, assumed to be windoze (search the lkml). It wasn't till the linux > kernel people exposed this that WD admitted it ... sort'a kind'a. > >Bottom line is hardware is a moving target, always has been. > Unfortunately, specially with other than with M$, it's a downhill > slide towards Junkyard Wars. Maxtor seems to be the safest bet right > now, by February it could be Tonka Toys makes the better one ... as > long as you have a WinXP+SP2 install CD for it ;> Tom,What I was trying to get across was that despite some people making blatant claims that WD does not suport their drives when using OSs other than Windows is
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Tuesday December 17 2002 03:01 am, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: > On Monday 16 December 2002 12:47 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking > > other that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as > > Win-harddrives. > > > > As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin > > Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a > > reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. > > The issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best > > on an off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. > > > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to > > CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from > > firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him > > was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux > > and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. > > This topic has been covered extensively in the past. I sent a query > to Western Digital regarding this issue of non-support. Here is > their response: > > > Response (Barb G) - 07/23/2002 07:58 AM > Greetings Jonathan, > Thank you for your email. > We have no issues with Western Digital drives being installed with > Linux or Unix. If you have more detailed information on specific > issues, I would be happy to address them. Or, if you can provide > the web site where these issues are being discussed we can address > them to the customer. If your friends are having issues with a > drive they should be contacting our technical support desk, or test > the drive with our utilities. We do not warranty a drive based on > the operating system used. Western Digital will honor the warranty > on any drive in the event of a drive failure, as long as the drive > is in warranty. If the drive carrys no warranty, or the warranty > has expired, we cannot replace the drive. > If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. > > Seems clear as far as WD is concerned. Personally, I have used > their drives for many years with no problems at all. I currently > have two 40 GIG, a 6 GIG and a 10 GIG WD drive. Also, a Seagate 40 > GIG drive, which also works well but has always been very noisy. > All Maxtor drives I have tried in the past have failed the first > day I used them, all with unrecoverable bad sectors. > > Cheers, All that says is they'll replace it while still under warranty ... which they're legally obligated to do anyhow (1 year?). A better source of realistic appraisal is the lkml, or Google, or real users. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=western+digital+CRC+check&btnG=Google+Search http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You may or may not remember the events of august 1998. WD had a RMA rate that rivals the one Fujitsu is now experiencing. The difference could be that at least Fujitsu is now offering, according to news reports, to RMA drives that have expired warranties, even 3 years, even other vendor OEM system's they have no warranty exposure to. It appears from your quoted email response that WD isn't willing in this regard. If WD had to replace all their linux use drives ... what would that be 2 maybe 3% ? Fujitsu is potentially lookin at 30 to 50%. Gettin back to 1998. The perception then was that WD's were failin on CRC. It was first noticed by overclockers (usin other than the standard 33.3mhz PCI bus). At the time, IBM, Quantum, and specially WD drives were favored by oc'rs as they best tolerated an out of spec (call it oc'd if you must, but that's innaccurate) PCI bus speed. I had pre '98 WD drives myself, all on off spec PCI. The popular test then was to zip up about 600mb's, and then unzip. The files with summer and later '98 WD drives, all of a sudden, were often corrupt. The zip CRC check failed. Post 8/98 WD's immediately went to the bottom of the barrel along with Maxtor's and Seagate's as drives to be avoided by oc'rs. There seemed to be a stark change in WD drives. Later it became an issue on OS's other than W9.x. Seems the CRC checks were removed from the WD drives firmware, to be taken care of within software by the OS, assumed to be windoze (search the lkml). It wasn't till the linux kernel people exposed this that WD admitted it ... sort'a kind'a. Bottom line is hardware is a moving target, always has been. Unfortunately, specially with other than with M$, it's a downhill slide towards Junkyard Wars. Maxtor seems to be the safest bet right now, by February it could be Tonka Toys makes the better one ... as long as you have a WinXP+SP2 install CD for it ;> -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Novell IPX over IPSEC tunnel
I am attempting to setup a VPN tunnel between 2 locations, and transfer Novell IPX protocol over this tunnel (I know, IPX will not go over the IPSEC VPN natively) It has been suggested that I use GRE to create a tunnel in the IPSEC VPN, but to date I have not been successful in getting the GRE tunnel up I have attached the commands used at each end for configuring the GRE tunnel, the tcpdump (this came off of eth1, the internal network card, and nothing was reported at the same time from either the GRE device or from eth0, the external network card), and the routing from both ends. Any help would be appreciated. Darcy Brodie Computer OS's Host - Mandrake 8.1 IPSec 1.91 using IPTables for firewall configuration Remote - Mandrake 9.0 IPSec 1.98b using IPTables for firewall configuration #host #dev name neta #dev ip 192.168.9.1 gre-up ip tunnel add neta mode gre remote aa.bb.cc.dd local ee.ff.gg.hh ttl 255 ip link set neta up ip addr add 192.168.9.1 dev neta ip route add 192.168.10.0/24 dev neta #remote site #dev name netb #dev ip 192.168.10.1 gre-up ip tunnel add netb mode gre remote ee.ff.gg.hh local aa.bb.cc.dd ttl 255 ip link set netb up ip addr add 192.168.10.1 dev netb ip route add 192.168.9.0/24 dev netb tcpdump output from "remote" location (computer.domain.ca has been changed from actual report) 19:27:17.838178 computer.domain.ca.ssh > 192.168.9.20.1037: P 1910238303:1910238347(44) ack 179971 win 8576 (DF) [tos 0x10] 19:27:18.028227 192.168.9.20.1037 > seed2032.theseed.ca.ssh: . ack 44 win 8212 (DF) 19:27:20.339484 0.00:30:84:27:1a:d7.4017 > 0.ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.452:ipx-sap-req 278 19:27:23.388483 192.168.9.20.svrloc > SVRLOC.MCAST.NET.svrloc: udp 44 19:27:24.322519 192.168.9.20.svrloc > SVRLOC.MCAST.NET.svrloc: udp 44 19:27:25.422363 192.168.9.20.svrloc > SVRLOC.MCAST.NET.svrloc: udp 44 19:27:27.622070 192.168.9.20.svrloc > SVRLOC.MCAST.NET.svrloc: udp 44 19:27:32.021481 192.168.9.20.svrloc > SVRLOC.MCAST.NET.svrloc: udp 44 -- [root@remote root]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.10.224 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.224 U40 0 0 eth1 192.168.67.0ee.ff.gg.1 255.255.255.0 UG 40 0 0 ipsec0 192.168.10.0ee.ff.gg.1 255.255.255.0 UG 40 0 0 ipsec0 192.168.10.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U40 0 0 admin 192.168.9.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U40 0 0 eth1 ee.ff.gg.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.248.0 U40 0 0 eth0 ee.ff.gg.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.248.0 U40 0 0 ipsec0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 ee.ff.gg.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 [root@host root]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.67.0aa.bb.cc.1 255.255.255.0 UG 40 0 0 ipsec0 192.168.10.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U40 0 0 eth1 192.168.9.0 aa.bb.cc.1 255.255.255.0 UG 40 0 0 ipsec0 192.168.9.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U40 0 0 2032 aa.bb.cc.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U40 0 0 eth0 aa.bb.cc.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U40 0 0 eth0 aa.bb.cc.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U40 0 0 ipsec0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 aa.bb.cc.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wierd unmount only permitted as root
Hi Dave, I am surprised that works, here chmod +s only gives user and group +s so my normal user can still not run it. Any other ideas? I could use a script, but there must be something more elegant Regards JG Dave Sherman wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:07, J. Grant wrote: Hi, I'm seeing some strange effects, this has been going on for a while, but i've not got around to asking if there is a solution, basically, even though I have "user" in my fstab I can only unmount my cdrom as root. Any ideas or solutions? I ran into a similar problem with RedHat 8.0 and Samba (couldn't unmount a share as a user, even though I had mounted the share as the same user), my solution was to (as root): # chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount I would think your solution would be to check /bin/mount and /bin/umount, and try the same thing on umount. This is not a secure solution, but it works on my (single-user) laptop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CUPS permission denied.
Damian Gatabria wrote: I had such a problem in 9.0, after no problems since 7.1. One thing that caused this is an initscripts security update, which was fixed by a subsequent update. Some people had problems that were fixed by a new foomatic. These are the current versions where CUPS works for me: initscripts-6.91-16.1mdk foomatic-2.0.2-20021030.1.2mdk Thanks Rolf, i have already updated my packages accordingly, as well as edited the relevant config files. Still no luck.. i have no way to get to configure CUPS via localhost:631 in Mandrake9. Perahps i need a reboot? i have already restarted printing services and all.. Damian I can't think of what else, except to look around at www.linuxprinting.org or www.groups.google.com. FWIW, here is what was, for me, the problematic tail of cupsd.conf, as is now working: ## Anonymous access (default) #AuthType None ## Require a username and password (Basic authentication) #AuthType Basic #AuthClass User ## Require a username and password (Digest/MD5 authentication) #AuthType Digest #AuthClass User ## Restrict access to local domain #Order Deny,Allow #Deny From All #Allow From .mydomain.com # # # You definitely will want to limit access to the administration functions. # The default configuration requires a local connection from a user who # is a member of the system group to do any admin tasks. You can change # the group name using the SystemGroup directive. # AuthType None AuthClass System ## Restrict access to local domain ###Order Deny,Allow ###Deny From All ###Allow From 127.0.0.1 #Encryption Required # # End of "$Id: cupsd.conf.in,v 1.7 2002/08/22 17:13:39 mike Exp $". # ServerName 10.0.0.10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CUPS permission denied.
> I had such a problem in 9.0, after no problems since 7.1. One thing > that caused this is an initscripts security update, which was fixed by a > subsequent update. Some people had problems that were fixed by a new > foomatic. These are the current versions where CUPS works for me: > > initscripts-6.91-16.1mdk > foomatic-2.0.2-20021030.1.2mdk Thanks Rolf, i have already updated my packages accordingly, as well as edited the relevant config files. Still no luck.. i have no way to get to configure CUPS via localhost:631 in Mandrake9. Perahps i need a reboot? i have already restarted printing services and all.. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 8:36 pm, Lorne wrote: > On Monday 16 December 2002 10:47 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Monday December 16 2002 06:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > > > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > > > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the > > > way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather > > > strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > > > > > James > > > > Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking other > > that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as Win-harddrives. > > > > As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin > > Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a > > reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. The > > issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best on an > > off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. > > > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to CRC > > short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from firmware to > > software. He also reported that WD's response to him was that their > > drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux and Solaris by NDA > > and licensing agreements. > > What a crock! I guess you get what you pay for eh? I thought 180GB's for > $179.00 was too good to be true. Well I guess I'll through it on my XP box > and take a real drive and put in my linux box. Guess I've learned a lesson. What do you consider a "real drive"? -- Jonathan Dlouhy Monday, December 16, 2002 It's as bad as you think and they are out to get you Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Tuesday December 17 2002 01:36 am, Lorne wrote: > On Monday 16 December 2002 10:47 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to > > CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from > > firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him > > was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux > > and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. > What a crock! I guess you get what you pay for eh? I thought > 180GB's for $179.00 was too good to be true. Well I guess I'll > through it on my XP box and take a real drive and put in my linux > box. Guess I've learned a lesson. It'll only last moments ;) The whole hardware deal (PC's) is gettin to be a joke. One the big iron guys have always joked about. Desktop hardware was an increasingly progressive target a few years ago. Was startin to look real good. Lately, despite M$'s problems, and the DoJ (even EU) perception that Billy's major crime was knee'n NutScrape in the ba__ well... he's prevailin anyhow. He's killed a lot of hardware, other than if you want to use it with his software. In my perception it's been M$'s influence on hardware that's their _real_crime_. More'n more of it is becomin software dependant win-modems, win-harddrives, win-sound, win-printers, win-video, etc., even lately, win-motherboards. Linux users gravitating towards an acceptance of any hardware that needs proprietary closed source drivers to work, or work fully ... are sheep being led to slaughter. Even when it's called lin-hardware, or at least made somewhat usable (eg, lin-nvidia). They're just vendor captive users, and add to the ultimate problem. BTW, I gave $120 for a 80g Maxtor recently. Several years ago an admission of buyin a Maxtor on an oc'rs group would have brought deserved ridicule an laughs ... lately I can't find anything better. It's gettin harder. Billy has lost a few battles lately, taken a draw in others, but he's winning the war when he controls hardware. Mostly not his own efforts, but due to user acceptance, apathy, and ignorance. Ignorance of the fact that if it needs proprietary closed software, when it shouldn't, to fully function, ... it's fake-hardware. Acceptance and apathy follow hand'n hand. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 12:47 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Monday December 16 2002 06:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the > > way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather > > strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > > > James > > Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking other > that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as Win-harddrives. > > As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin > Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a > reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. The > issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best on an > off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to CRC > short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from firmware to > software. He also reported that WD's response to him was that their > drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux and Solaris by NDA > and licensing agreements. This topic has been covered extensively in the past. I sent a query to Western Digital regarding this issue of non-support. Here is their response: Response (Barb G) - 07/23/2002 07:58 AM Greetings Jonathan, Thank you for your email. We have no issues with Western Digital drives being installed with Linux or Unix. If you have more detailed information on specific issues, I would be happy to address them. Or, if you can provide the web site where these issues are being discussed we can address them to the customer. If your friends are having issues with a drive they should be contacting our technical support desk, or test the drive with our utilities. We do not warranty a drive based on the operating system used. Western Digital will honor the warranty on any drive in the event of a drive failure, as long as the drive is in warranty. If the drive carrys no warranty, or the warranty has expired, we cannot replace the drive. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. Seems clear as far as WD is concerned. Personally, I have used their drives for many years with no problems at all. I currently have two 40 GIG, a 6 GIG and a 10 GIG WD drive. Also, a Seagate 40 GIG drive, which also works well but has always been very noisy. All Maxtor drives I have tried in the past have failed the first day I used them, all with unrecoverable bad sectors. Cheers, -- Jonathan Dlouhy Monday, December 16, 2002 "I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people" -Former U.S. Vice-President Dan Quayle Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 20:45, Lorne wrote: > > One question I'm wondering about right now is the make/model of the > > system board. ? > > > > A brand new Intel D845PEBT2 with a 2.4ghz P4 CPU. Looks like a WD problem. Western Digital strikes out again. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
On Monday 16 December 2002 08:32 pm, Toshiro wrote: > El Dom 15 Dic 2002 23:55, PlugHead escribió: > > Have you installed the kernel-source rpm appropriate to your kernel? > > > > -Jason > > Yes, I installed the RPM that comes with MDK9 I would do a 'rpm -qa | grep ^kernel' and make sure that the kernel packages listed all have the same version #'s. -Jason = Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind. (Reaper Man) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 06:23 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 17:34, Joe Braddock wrote: > > Is it possible that the size is too large for your bios? Most of the > > large WD drives come with floppy to install ez-bios or something like > > that on the drive to overwrite the system's drive table. > > Which is a rather horrid solution, unless you're being threatened with a > gun to your head. The best way is a hardware system board bios update > downloadable from the net that is newer than what you have. Most boards > these days that are not ancient history can be flashed with a newer bios > from the manufacturer that solves just these types of problems. Even > ones older than that can be updated; I still have a ROM programmer card > here which plugs into an ISA slot and has a cable/socket for a range of > different brand/types of ROM chips. I can load a new bios from a file > or I can clone another bios chip to file and then load onto a new ROM > chip. > > The best thing is to update the mobo bios if there is an update > available on the net and the mobo is flashable. > > > Problem is, > > if you're booting from CD-ROM, the system never get's the chance to > > read the new drive table from the hard drive. If you think that may > > be the problem, the solution I've used is to first boot from the hard > > drive and once the new drive table loads, reboot (without powering > > off) and put the CD in. The system usually doesn't clear out the new > > drive table. > > > > Joeb > > > > Journal-601, buffer write failed > > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > > invalid operand: > > cpu 0 > > > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've > > done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have > > any light to shed? > > One question I'm wondering about right now is the make/model of the > system board. ? > A brand new Intel D845PEBT2 with a 2.4ghz P4 CPU. > LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 03:34 pm, Joe Braddock wrote: > Is it possible that the size is too large for your bios? Most of the large > WD drives come with floppy to install ez-bios or something like that on the > drive to overwrite the system's drive table. Problem is, if you're booting > from CD-ROM, the system never get's the chance to read the new drive table > from the hard drive. If you think that may be the problem, the solution > I've used is to first boot from the hard drive and once the new drive table > loads, reboot (without powering off) and put the CD in. The system usually > doesn't clear out the new drive table. > > Joeb No, I don't think so. It is a brand new motherboard. however... it DID come with a special ide controller card. Seems that WD drives are junk based on another thread. :( > > ---Original Message--- > From: Lorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 12/16/02 08:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity > > > Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just > > tried an > > install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the > size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? > > End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > Journal-601, buffer write failed > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > invalid operand: > cpu 0 > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've > done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have > any light to shed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 10:40 am, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 08:06, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Reiser 3.5 and 3.6 can handle up to 17.6 Terrabyte in a single > > filesystem. (check www.namesys.com) > > Practically speaking this is also the maximum file size, which is > > logical given the partition size. > > > > So it shouldn't be reiser... maybe the drive is malfunctioning, or it is > > not supported by your BIOS (that large). This used to be the case with > > 2-4 GB drivers in 486's or early pentiums. The manufacturers often get > > arround this by installing some low-level driver. Unfortunately these > > are often incompatible with *NIX. > > I've always been under the impression that Linux unloads the BIOS from > memory and then supports disk activity itself. I've used large disks > (10G) in old computers (P75) successfully by not configuring the disk in > the BIOS at all. > This is news to me. I knew NT and XP does that, but didn't realize that Linux did it too. I'll have to give that a spin. > > Maybe you can try JFS, XFS or EXT3 to check? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Guy > > > > > Perhaps a dumb question, but what is the maximum partition size you can > > > make a linux ext2, or reisfer or any other linux partition? The reason > > > I ask, is I just purchased a 180gb IDE drive and Reiser is choking. > > > I've done a cursory search on the internet and not seeing anything. > > > > -- > > Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 09:06 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > Reiser 3.5 and 3.6 can handle up to 17.6 Terrabyte in a single > filesystem. (check www.namesys.com) > Practically speaking this is also the maximum file size, which is > logical given the partition size. > > So it shouldn't be reiser... maybe the drive is malfunctioning, or it is > not supported by your BIOS (that large). This used to be the case with > 2-4 GB drivers in 486's or early pentiums. The manufacturers often get > arround this by installing some low-level driver. Unfortunately these > are often incompatible with *NIX. > > Maybe you can try JFS, XFS or EXT3 to check? > Thanks man... It turns out to me far worse than I suspected. At first I thought I was exceeding the partition size. Turns out I just made the mistake of buying a Western Digital drive! Arrr > Kind regards > > Guy > > > Perhaps a dumb question, but what is the maximum partition size you can > > make a linux ext2, or reisfer or any other linux partition? The reason I > > ask, is I just purchased a 180gb IDE drive and Reiser is choking. I've > > done a cursory search on the internet and not seeing anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
El Dom 15 Dic 2002 23:55, PlugHead escribió: > Have you installed the kernel-source rpm appropriate to your kernel? > > -Jason Yes, I installed the RPM that comes with MDK9 -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
El Lun 16 Dic 2002 00:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Toshiro wrote: > > I've downloaded the latest NVIDIA source rpms, I successfully built the > > GLX rpm, but when I try to build the NVIDIA kernel rpm, I get an error > > (see the full message below); it seems that is looking for some > > linux/autoconf.h that it didn't find. Of course the file I downloaded is > > OK (same checksum as advertised). > > > > Anybody got any idea? > > This can happen if you have kernel sources installed but you haven't run > a 'make dep' inside of the source directory. well, I did a 'make dep' but I'm still having the same errors -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 10:47 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Monday December 16 2002 06:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the > > way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather > > strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > > > James > > Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking other > that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as Win-harddrives. > > As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin > Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a > reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. The > issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best on an > off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. > >Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to CRC > short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from firmware to > software. He also reported that WD's response to him was that their > drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux and Solaris by NDA > and licensing agreements. What a crock! I guess you get what you pay for eh? I thought 180GB's for $179.00 was too good to be true. Well I guess I'll through it on my XP box and take a real drive and put in my linux box. Guess I've learned a lesson. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday 16 December 2002 11:09 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way > WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict > checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > James > Thank you very much. I'll go looking.I have about 9,000 messages saved. :) > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: > > Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just > > tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some > > limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe > > truly a kernel bug. ? > > > > End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > > Journal-601, buffer write failed > > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > > invalid operand: > > cpu 0 > > > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've > > done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have > > any light to shed? > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 17:34, Joe Braddock wrote: > Is it possible that the size is too large for your bios? Most of the > large WD drives come with floppy to install ez-bios or something like > that on the drive to overwrite the system's drive table. Which is a rather horrid solution, unless you're being threatened with a gun to your head. The best way is a hardware system board bios update downloadable from the net that is newer than what you have. Most boards these days that are not ancient history can be flashed with a newer bios from the manufacturer that solves just these types of problems. Even ones older than that can be updated; I still have a ROM programmer card here which plugs into an ISA slot and has a cable/socket for a range of different brand/types of ROM chips. I can load a new bios from a file or I can clone another bios chip to file and then load onto a new ROM chip. The best thing is to update the mobo bios if there is an update available on the net and the mobo is flashable. > Problem is, > if you're booting from CD-ROM, the system never get's the chance to > read the new drive table from the hard drive. If you think that may > be the problem, the solution I've used is to first boot from the hard > drive and once the new drive table loads, reboot (without powering > off) and put the CD in. The system usually doesn't clear out the new > drive table. > > Joeb > > Journal-601, buffer write failed > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > invalid operand: > cpu 0 > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done > some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any > light to shed? > One question I'm wondering about right now is the make/model of the system board. ? LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
On Monday December 16 2002 11:16 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: > Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Nope, I'm not, I'm in New Zealand (though I am also an American) > > and if they want to prosecute me, they need to come here to do it > > and PROVE I did something wrong, which there are many ways of > > avoiding. > > I don't think that's true. Many licences are qualified as > restricted to the courts of the owner's country. > > So you can be tried overseas in absentia and fined. > > However, collecting that fine is an international event and may or > may not be possible.In any case the costs of collection may > well exceed the penalty. Where the copyright owner has a local > branch in New Zealand, you would probably be in trouble. In any legal case, regardless of jurisdiction (worldwide), I believe it's safe to say that what's sensibly wrong or right, what makes (common) sense, what's morally right doesn't even enter into the courtroom. Lawyers do. And you, we all, pay for 'em. Take the boy from Norway (DeCSS), or the Russian (Acrobat sux anyhow). It's the legal hassle and expense, even when you might prevail, that's prohibitive. While you might be technically 'innocent till proven guilty', maybe even _really_ innocent ... you're still sort'a kind'a fsck'd as soon as charged, regardless of politcal or geographic boundaries. Anyhow, I wasn't fishin for IANAL comments, just how comfortable y'all feel with doin P2P. Specially considerin the recent HDD snapshot prosecutions in Europe on 'open networks' user sharing ? IIRC, several Kazza users were the first targets. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card recommendations
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 18:30, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600 > Narfi Stefansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out > > Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP > > Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP > > Toss-up, they all use the same chip. These guys are not using the same chipset. While the GeForce 4MX is based on the Geforce 2MX design, they instituted several improvements that distinguish the GF4MX from the latter: Manufactured in TSMC's .15 µ process Chip clock 250 - 300 MHz Memory clock 166 - 550 MHz Memory bandwidth 2,600 - 8,800 MB/s Accuview Anti Aliasing Light Speed Memory Architecture II nView VPE So the Leadtek is distinquishable from the others listed at the top, which are based on the GF2MX. > None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers > but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver > LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
Is it possible that the size is too large for your bios? Most of the large WD drives come with floppy to install ez-bios or something like that on the drive to overwrite the system's drive table. Problem is, if you're booting from CD-ROM, the system never get's the chance to read the new drive table from the hard drive. If you think that may be the problem, the solution I've used is to first boot from the hard drive and once the new drive table loads, reboot (without powering off) and put the CD in. The system usually doesn't clear out the new drive table. Joeb ---Original Message--- From: Lorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/16/02 08:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity > Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector Journal-601, buffer write failed Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! invalid operand: cpu 0 Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any light to shed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] boot partition
Hi, I have an Intel Server (SE7500WV2S) that comes with Intel server monitor software. The software is installed on the a service partition on the first disk (/sda1). Then I installed LM9.0 with boot partition on (/sda5). But system won't boot even I set LILO to load /sda5 during the setup process. When I turn on the computer I see ... on the screen. Would someone please help? Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday December 16 2002 06:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. James Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking other that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as Win-harddrives. As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. The issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best on an off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. Linkage: http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg60691.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card recommendations
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 17:59, Narfi Stefansson wrote: > Hi everybody. > I know this is a frequently asked question on this list, but I have a list of > candidates and I would like your recommendations for the best cards, using > only free drivers. > I have the following cards in mind: > > Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out > Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP > Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP > ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI > ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP There are more choices out there now than ever before and it IS bewildering. What you need to sort things out is a roundup test of a bunch of boards with chipsets similar to what you are planning on getting. Here is the start of a graphics board roundup exam: http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20020206/geforce4-07.html This gives you some basic specs and sets the stage for the tests. I would read the whole article if I were you. Leadtek and Gainward are good names. The ATI stuff is OK, but people have reported trouble getting the newly released Linux ATI drivers to work with different stuff. Also, the ATI cards have always been a little behind the performance of the Nvidia cards. Throw in the fact that native Linux drivers were not available until recently for the ATI cards and you see why they haven't made much headway. My recommendation, until something changes, is to stick with Nvidia. Now we get down to money vs performance. Since I was unable to find a roundup listing your exact card model numbers, we can just use the Tom's hardware roundup here for some approximations. Quake 3 benches are always a reliable indicator of how a graphics card is going to perform in general: http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20020206/geforce4-12.html Note that the Geforce 440 MX edges out the Radeon 7500 in most benches in this article. This is a good indicator of *approximately* how well the Leadtek would perform in relation to the other cards. Leadtek is not a stranger brand to the tomshardware; they pay attention to the consumers, so you have probably got a winner in the Leadtek choice. If you are looking to spend less money, then I would search for roundup benchmarks comparing the Gainward and Asus MX400 cards, and then decide from there. Gainward and Asus are both very good names. Personally I lean towards Gainward for performance; but I wouldn't bank on that until I saw some numbers. > The radeon 9000 is a budget version, but still more expensive than the others, > so that's a minus. > My needs are simple, I'm only looking for a card that's good enough and > supports AGP 4x, uses free drivers and ... > > Above all, it musn't ever freeze, including when switching between X and the > virtual consoles. > > I don't do any gaming, so that's really not an issue. It's compatibility with > my motherboard, smoothness in 2-D use and stability that count. There are alot of people that don't do gaming, however that type of testing is the best comparator for judgement of performance vs price. Business software simply does not stress the hardware. If you wish for a best determining factor of the cards you have presented, then you should examine the benches for the whole story. If you are not concerned necessarily with value, and are mostly concerned with compatibility, then I would examine either the Asus or the Gainward closely. Further, if compatibility is the main issue, I would venture away from the ATI stuff for now. HTH, LX > Thanks, > > Narfi. -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card recommendations
Quoting Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600 > Narfi Stefansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out > > Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP > > Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP > > Toss-up, they all use the same chip. > None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers > but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver > > > > ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI > > Not supported so you would only be able to use the vega driver so it is > at this time not worth any extra cost. > > > ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP > > Pass, flaky behavior can vary between systems. > Some have no problem others nothing but. > > Would like to add another suggestion that would be in the lower price > range of the cards you listed. > ATI Xpert 2000 32mb using Rage 128 chipset. > Running it on 2 system with full 3d accel and no problems. > There is a problem (freezing when switching back and forth between X and > the virtual consoles) with the Rage 128 Mobility cards but not with > those used in standard desktops. Actually, you may have found the winner ... The ATI Xpert 2000 is not compatible with my motherboard since I need an AGP 2.0 card. However, the ATI Xpert 2000 Pro is an AGP 2.0 card, so it runs at 2x/4x and it is also dirt cheap! I have used the XPert 2000 for a couple of years now and it's been very stable for a while (since approx. 8.2) and unless somebody on this list knows the Pro card to be less stable than the regular Xpert 2000, I'll go for the pro :-) Thanks for the good advice, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate issues
On Monday 16 Dec 2002 05:23, Joseph Braddock wrote: > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 23:56, James Sparenberg wrote: > > If your are using urpmi from the command line you can use the switch > > --noclean and it won't erase the rpms. > > I haven't tried this, but you should also be able to go into menudrake > and add the --noclean to the command for the Mandrake Update menu > choice. > > Joeb Thanks for your replies. The menudrake approach doesn't seem to work. Presumably because /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate is just a symlink to rpmdrake and not to urpmi. Having a look at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake I see that it is a Perl script with the following line system('/usr/sbin/urpmi.update', map { $_->{name} } @update_medias) == 0 just after it echoes a message about contacting the mirrors. Presumably all I have to do is to edit this and add the --noclean at this point? Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
On Monday December 16 2002 06:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the > way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather > strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > James Civileme reported that WD's no longer supported CRC checking other that in Windoze. I believe he pronounced them as Win-harddrives. As an old timey overclocker, we clockers learned to quit usin Western Digital HDD's circa summer 1998. Before that they had a reputation for 'takes a lickin, keeps on tickin' among oc'rs. The issue remains the same, WD's went from being some of the best on an off-spec PCI bus (33.3mhz) ... to the worst. Civileme, as I relate to his past reports, said it was due to CRC short cuts. To save a few $$'s, WD transfered this from firmware to software. He also reported that WD's response to him was that their drives were not supported under Linux, only Winsux and Solaris by NDA and licensing agreements. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] error loading libGL.so and libMesaVoodooGL.so "But it used to work three days ago"
On Monday 16 Dec 2002 19:57, Roberto Armenteros wrote: > Hi guys, I had quake 3 installed in my system for more > than a year, but just a couple of days ago I tried to > install other games and some libraries and when I try > to run quake 3 now I get the error. > > "...loading libGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load libGL.so > from /etc/ld.so.conf or current dir: > /usr/local/games/q3demo/libGL.so: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > failed It's not clear from the error message whether it's looking in /usr/lib which I can't believe it's not doing. According to the man page for ld.so.conf /usr/lib is a default location for libraries and so is not required to be in /etc/ld.so.conf. If it's not looking there then you could put in a symlink from a directory that is in /etc/ld.so.conf (remembering to run ldconfig afterwards). > ...loading libMesaVoodooGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load > libMesaVoodooGL.so from /etc/ld.so.conf or current > dir: /usr/local/games/q3demo/libMesaVoodooGL.so: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory" I assume that this is the fall through option if it can't find libGL.so??? > The deal is that libGL.so is present in /usr/lib as > you can see when I do a locate libGL.so > "[rarmente@rarmente lib]$ locate libGL.so > /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.3123 > /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > /usr/lib/libGL.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 > /usr/local/games/quake2/libGL.so" My own /etc/ld.so.conf has /usr/X11R6/lib present so perhaps yours does too? If so then maybe all you need is a symlink from libGL.so to libGL.so.1 in that directory. Failing all of the above then try copying the library into the current directory. HTH Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card recommendations
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600 Narfi Stefansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out > Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP > Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP Toss-up, they all use the same chip. None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver > ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI Not supported so you would only be able to use the vega driver so it is at this time not worth any extra cost. > ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP Pass, flaky behavior can vary between systems. Some have no problem others nothing but. Would like to add another suggestion that would be in the lower price range of the cards you listed. ATI Xpert 2000 32mb using Rage 128 chipset. Running it on 2 system with full 3d accel and no problems. There is a problem (freezing when switching back and forth between X and the virtual consoles) with the Rage 128 Mobility cards but not with those used in standard desktops. Charles I am very fond of the company of ladies. I like their beauty, I like their delicacy, I like their vivacity, and I like their silence. -- Samuel Johnson -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Yes, I concur. It IS possible for the copyright holders but a royal pain in the a** to prosecute someone who downloads maybe 1-3 songs per week, that may or may not be copyrighted. Cheers J Ron Stodden wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: Nope, I'm not, I'm in New Zealand (though I am also an American) and if they want to prosecute me, they need to come here to do it and PROVE I did something wrong, which there are many ways of avoiding. I don't think that's true. Many licences are qualified as restricted to the courts of the owner's country. So you can be tried overseas in absentia and fined. However, collecting that fine is an international event and may or may not be possible. In any case the costs of collection may well exceed the penalty. Where the copyright owner has a local branch in New Zealand, you would probably be in trouble. Compare the recent case here in Melbourne where the Supreme Court deemed a defamation published in Barrons (USA) against Gutnik here in Melbourne to be actionable here in Melbourne. IOW, the deemed point of publication is where the download occurred, NOT the where the article was uploaded. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Jason Greenwood wrote: Nope, I'm not, I'm in New Zealand (though I am also an American) and if they want to prosecute me, they need to come here to do it and PROVE I did something wrong, which there are many ways of avoiding. I don't think that's true. Many licences are qualified as restricted to the courts of the owner's country. So you can be tried overseas in absentia and fined. However, collecting that fine is an international event and may or may not be possible.In any case the costs of collection may well exceed the penalty. Where the copyright owner has a local branch in New Zealand, you would probably be in trouble. Compare the recent case here in Melbourne where the Supreme Court deemed a defamation published in Barrons (USA) against Gutnik here in Melbourne to be actionable here in Melbourne. IOW, the deemed point of publication is where the download occurred, NOT the where the article was uploaded. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card recommendations
The only advice I can offer is not to use anyhting that contains an SIS Chipsetthey perform, um, erratically with XFree86. Regards J Narfi Stefansson wrote: Hi everybody. I know this is a frequently asked question on this list, but I have a list of candidates and I would like your recommendations for the best cards, using only free drivers. I have the following cards in mind: Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP The radeon 9000 is a budget version, but still more expensive than the others, so that's a minus. My needs are simple, I'm only looking for a card that's good enough and supports AGP 4x, uses free drivers and ... Above all, it musn't ever freeze, including when switching between X and the virtual consoles. I don't do any gaming, so that's really not an issue. It's compatibility with my motherboard, smoothness in 2-D use and stability that count. Thanks, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] IDE problems PlatiniX 2E /var/log/dmesg PARTIALLY SOLVED
Hi all, I've downloaded Kernel 2.4.20 from kernel.org. I've configured it, compiled it and installed it. The error message saying PCI: 00:0f.1 device not available due to a conflict o resources continues, but I've been able to hdparm -d1 and hdparm -c1 my hard disks. My X-Windows didn't work, but I'm almost sure that's because of my GF4 MX440 (I compiled the driver with the 2.4.19 kernel, so I'll have to re-compile it to make it work. I've not had much time, so I still don't know if something else is working or not with the new kernel. I've not installed the cooker rpm's because it's important that the nvidia drivers are compiled with the same compiler than the kernel, and that way I've been able to tweak my sistem a little. Thanks to all of you who had helped me, and please, keep me informed of new advances. Bye, James Beam = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] video card recommendations
Hi everybody. I know this is a frequently asked question on this list, but I have a list of candidates and I would like your recommendations for the best cards, using only free drivers. I have the following cards in mind: Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP The radeon 9000 is a budget version, but still more expensive than the others, so that's a minus. My needs are simple, I'm only looking for a card that's good enough and supports AGP 4x, uses free drivers and ... Above all, it musn't ever freeze, including when switching between X and the virtual consoles. I don't do any gaming, so that's really not an issue. It's compatibility with my motherboard, smoothness in 2-D use and stability that count. Thanks, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mplayer and software manager + a bit of a rant
I must sound like a broken record here but this is really getting me down. I got fed up with all the difficulties installing software, being unable to run mozilla as a user, my menus suddenly disappearing, that I reinstalled LM 9.0 (again!) This time, I didn't update during installation. Again, I added extra software sources from the club's mirror lists, for contribs, club contribs, commercial apps and PLF. These sources seemed to install OK in urpmi and updating them doesn't give any errors. So, I go to install some stuff - some programs, no problem. Some programs (including mplayer again), I get the "everything already installed" error. So I run "urpmi.update cdrom8" as suggested on the errata page and that solves it sometimes, but not others. "urpmi.update -a" doesn't help either, nor does "rpm --updatedb" I've managed to install some stuff, but not others. I'm doing this on two computers and the software I can get varies between the two. MPlayer won't install on my laptop but will on my desktop. If I try to do it from a terminal, it tells me that various files aren't available - but they are, 'cos I've just downloaded them on my other computer from exactly the same sources. I used to use Mandrake because it seemed easier than the other distros and I then defected to debian because it was the only distro I was capable of customising enough for a particular machine, which I no longer have. I thought with 9.0 I'd give it another go but I'm about to give up again: not because of particular issues or bugs but because it just seems totally unpredictable. When I boot up tomorrow, what will be Tuesday's error? And Monday's problems will probably have gone away. I think I'll go to bed now because I'm getting really pd off! Thanks to everyone who's tried to help - any further suggestions would be appreciated. Rant over and good night! David -- "The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory." (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! HEAVENS!!!
On Monday December 16 2002 07:02 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > Actually, there is no acceleration for an nVidia card under the > default "nv" driver. Check the documentation. You need to install > the "nvidia" drivers to get that. > > Ric I didn't bother responding to the first post of the sort that "there is no acceleration for an nVidia card under the default "nv" driver" because I reckon'd most discerning people usin XF 4.2.1, would recognize it as wrong, foolishness, or at least blinded by unawareness. For those with nvidia cards, all that's need to verify is to run 'glxinfo' with >= XFree 4.2.1 and the included OSS driver, before tainting their system with a guess (nVidia's closed driver). Another pertinent test is that 'glxgears' won't even run with less than the 3d/accel enabled 4.2.1 OSS XFree diver, 'nv'. You might also take a look in a 4.2.1 XF86Config-4 and see the lines (before it's tainted with nVidia edits), Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layer ^^ and further down... Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic)" Driver "nv" ^^^ Option "DPMS" 3d/accel is now a _FACT_ (albeit limited) for nvidia with XFree86 OSS drivers, unfortunately (M$) direct rendering isn't. On the plus side the XFree driver doesn't introduce the unauditable, unsupported conflicts, bugs and security holes that the closed sourced, binary only secret crap that nVidia releases does or might, and the XFree driver is, and will be supported now and into the future. http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=427&lang=en A respected, former Mandrake developer (Civileme), responsible for file system and ide/scsi testing, also reported file system corruption traceable to nVidia's drivers. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbie&m=102633257532555&w=2 " NVIdia drivers _are_ unstable and have been known to cause filesystem corruption. Yes, I have tested this, extensively." As always Y'allsMMV, jus take the blinders off ;> Once you install nVidia's kernel and GLX taints, you no longer own your system. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux on nvidia nforce
Quoting Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mark Williamson wrote on Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:08:19PM +1100 : > > > > > On the installation of the Mandrake Linux just install as like any other > > PC, till the part were LILO is to be configured, and make sure that the > > "mem=" gets added to the append line in the lilo config that is > > "mem=(The amount of RAM less how much the Video card uses)" or the > > That's a nice easy workaround. The way I got it to work (with a > customer, I wasn't actually at the machine) was by installing cooker > kernel 2.4.20-1mdk,but that's not a recommended method for just anybody. > Todd and Mark: can you please share with me why you did this? I had a brief opportunity to play with a board with the nforce2 chipset, namely the Asus a7n8x deluxe motherboard, and it booted the 9.0 kernel without any problems. Was the difficulty in getting the 9.0 installed properly or in the bootup with an installed kernel? What else did these 2 workarounds give you? [I.e. the mem= or going to a cooker kernel]. Can people please share what they have working on motherboards with this chipset? Has anyone got usb 2.0 working with this chipset? I presume that would require one to go to a cooker kernel. What about firewire? Or the LAN? I got the NVidia LAN working by using the proprietary driver, but has anyone tried to get the 3Com LAN working or managed not to use the proprietary driver for the NVidia LAN? Does anyone have the sound working without the properietary driver? I had a kernel freeze when I modprobe'd the i810_audio driver. Best, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Nope, I'm not, I'm in New Zealand (though I am also an American) and if they want to prosecute me, they need to come here to do it and PROVE I did something wrong, which there are many ways of avoiding. Cheers Jason Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday December 16 2002 05:50 pm, J. Grant wrote: Hi, So these programs are good now? limeware was poor last time i tried, and the gnutella was nearly as bad. I got Kazaa 1.72 working, 2.02 would not work. I start it like this "wine --dll shlwapi,shfolder,shdocvw=n zazaa.exe" if that is useful for anyone. Reply to the thread, not just Grant, Just curious, but aren't y'all the least bit concerned with RIAA, BSA, et al, recent prosecutions of P2P users ? They run the same P2P apps, then take and save a snapshot of your available files .. then sue ya. For what I've read, this is already happenin in Europe, at about $12 to 14,000 per case. Or, maybe, as I ust'a do with Napster, maybe y'all don't allow connections? If that's the case, file sharing is also doomed. Whether right or wrong, I don't think most of us can stand up to M$ and Hollywood size legal bills, even if all they collect is bogus file names to take to court. Lawyers are what we can't afford. For as long as it lasts, I use private ($$) UseNet binary groups, but _never_ post. Besides, the file selection, while it's take what you can get, is usually better and also current. All you need is pan ;> Yeah, I'm just a sponge ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
On Monday December 16 2002 05:50 pm, J. Grant wrote: > Hi, > > So these programs are good now? limeware was poor last time i > tried, and the gnutella was nearly as bad. I got Kazaa 1.72 > working, 2.02 would not work. I start it like this "wine --dll > shlwapi,shfolder,shdocvw=n zazaa.exe" if that is useful for anyone. Reply to the thread, not just Grant, Just curious, but aren't y'all the least bit concerned with RIAA, BSA, et al, recent prosecutions of P2P users ? They run the same P2P apps, then take and save a snapshot of your available files .. then sue ya. For what I've read, this is already happenin in Europe, at about $12 to 14,000 per case. Or, maybe, as I ust'a do with Napster, maybe y'all don't allow connections? If that's the case, file sharing is also doomed. Whether right or wrong, I don't think most of us can stand up to M$ and Hollywood size legal bills, even if all they collect is bogus file names to take to court. Lawyers are what we can't afford. For as long as it lasts, I use private ($$) UseNet binary groups, but _never_ post. Besides, the file selection, while it's take what you can get, is usually better and also current. All you need is pan ;> Yeah, I'm just a sponge ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
This is the stat on my WD drive (10gig) /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.83 seconds = 69.95 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.61 seconds = 17.73 MB/sec On Monday 16 December 2002 12:30 pm, J. Grant wrote: > Hi, > > Here's a common joke, How do you bring a computer to its knees? Put a WD > drive in it! as they don't follow the standards or support their drives > under free software OS's. > > This is why you dont want WD, email them and tell them this as well. > I've got an 80GB drive running about twice as fast as a floppy disk.. > (well nearly ;))) > > JG > > # hdparm -i /dev/hde > > /dev/hde: > > Model=WDC WD800BB-00CAA1, FwRev=17.07W17, SerialNo=WD-WMA8E3405796 > Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq > } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40 > BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 > CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488 > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} > PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 > DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 > UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 > AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled > Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4 5 > > James Sparenberg wrote: > > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way > > WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict > > checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > > > James > > > > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: > >>Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just > >> tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some > >> limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe > >> truly a kernel bug. ? > >> > >>End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > >>Journal-601, buffer write failed > >>Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > >>invalid operand: > >>cpu 0 > >> > >>Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've > >> done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody > >> have any light to shed? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
issue may be fixed with your speed.. try hdparm, and look at the faq on: http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html On Monday 16 December 2002 12:30 pm, J. Grant wrote: > Hi, > > Here's a common joke, How do you bring a computer to its knees? Put a WD > drive in it! as they don't follow the standards or support their drives > under free software OS's. > > This is why you dont want WD, email them and tell them this as well. > I've got an 80GB drive running about twice as fast as a floppy disk.. > (well nearly ;))) > > JG > > # hdparm -i /dev/hde > > /dev/hde: > > Model=WDC WD800BB-00CAA1, FwRev=17.07W17, SerialNo=WD-WMA8E3405796 > Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq > } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40 > BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 > CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488 > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} > PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 > DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 > UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 > AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled > Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4 5 > > James Sparenberg wrote: > > Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the > > archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete > > explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way > > WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict > > checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. > > > > James > > > > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: > >>Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just > >> tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some > >> limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe > >> truly a kernel bug. ? > >> > >>End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > >>Journal-601, buffer write failed > >>Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > >>invalid operand: > >>cpu 0 > >> > >>Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've > >> done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody > >> have any light to shed? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] rpmdrake error on MD9.0
Ladies and Gents, There seems to be an issue with MandrakeUpdate, rpmdrake, draktools, and everything under drak. I guess I have an older version of perl which does not support i386-linux-thread-multi directory option, whatever. I am running 5.8.0 perl. Here is a link to the problem reported earlier: http://www.vmlinuz.ca/archives/cooker/2002-07/msg03906.html When I run MandrakeUpdate, I get: MandrakeUpdate /usr/bin/perl: relocation error: /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/c/stuff/stuff.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr Please HELP!! -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' on Toshiba 2400
Hi symlink /dev/dvd to /dev/cdrom On Monday 16 December 2002 07:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I'm migrating my Mandrake 8.2 system to a new laptop (Toshiba 2400). > This machine has a DVD/CDROM drive, but when I boot I get the following > message: > > Assigning raw devices: cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' (No such > file or directory) > > Once the machine has booted, the CD works fine, but not the DVD (no > surprise). I also have a second floppy listed in fstab: > > /mnt/floppy2 /mnt/floppy2 supermount > dev=/dev/fd1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 > > > which reappears if I try to remove the entry (I think). > > Searching for this DVD error message I found one post (not Mandrake, > SuSe perhaps?) that suggested appending nobiospnp to the command line. I > have tried this but it did not help. > > Any ideas? > > Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] error loading libGL.so and libMesaVoodooGL.so "But it used to work three days ago"
Hi guys, I had quake 3 installed in my system for more than a year, but just a couple of days ago I tried to install other games and some libraries and when I try to run quake 3 now I get the error. "...loading libGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load libGL.so from /etc/ld.so.conf or current dir: /usr/local/games/q3demo/libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory failed ...loading libMesaVoodooGL.so: QGL_Init: Can't load libMesaVoodooGL.so from /etc/ld.so.conf or current dir: /usr/local/games/q3demo/libMesaVoodooGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" The deal is that libGL.so is present in /usr/lib as you can see when I do a locate libGL.so "[rarmente@rarmente lib]$ locate libGL.so /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.3123 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/libGL.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/local/games/quake2/libGL.so" However I cant find "libMesaVoodooGL.so" on my system. But quake used to work before. I WOULD REALLY appreciate some help guys. Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with X and mandrake
Xingyuan Zhang wrote: Dear Mandrake experts, I have just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my PC. It is an old RM machine, with ATI display card and Taxan Ergovision 730 display. After restarting X, the display begin to flick on and off at a frequency of once 2-3 seconds. I can hear click sounds from my display. Do you have any idea about the reason of this? Thanks! Xingyuan This *sounds* like a symptom where the X-server cannot operate at the current configuration and you would get a message: 'X respawning too quickly; disabling for 5 minutes'. If so, you might be able to fix it by logging in as root (it might take pressing (Enter) when the flickering stops to get a login prompt), then type init 3 to make sure you are in text mode, or choose the failsafe menu item at boot > single user maintenance mode, run XFdrake --expert, and try to choose some settings that are appropriate for your hardware. The pre-selected choice is the result of auto-detection and a good bet. If it doesn't work, try lower-performance settings. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [sane-devel] Failing to scan over network
On Saturday 16 November 2002 03:05 am, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: your tips hear were helpfull and got me alot closer to having network scanning ability. acessing scanimage on localhost is confirmed to work so I next issued this command on a computer without scanner "Client" I am trying to be able to scan on: [root@h2o sane.d]# SANE_DEBUG_NET=255 scanimage -L [sanei_debug] Setting debug level of net to 255. [net] sane_init: authorize = 0x804a8e0, version_code = 0xb178 [net] sane_init: SANE net backend version 1.0.9 from sane-backends-1.0.8 [net] sane_init: Client has little endian byte order [net] sane_init: determining sane service port [net] sane_init: could not find `sane' service (No such file or directory); using default port 6566 [net] sane_init: searching for config file [net] sane_init: trying to add 192.168.7.35 [net] add_device: adding backend 192.168.7.35 [net] add_device: backend 192.168.7.35 added [net] sane_init: done reading config [net] sane_init: evaluating environment variable SANE_NET_HOSTS [net] sane_init: done [net] sane_get_devices: local_only = 0 [net] connect_dev: trying to connect to 192.168.7.35 [net] connect_dev: connection succeeded [net] connect_dev: sanei_w_init [net] connect_dev: net_init (user=root, local version=1.0.3) [net] connect_dev: freeing init reply (status=Invalid argument, remote version=0.0.0) [net] connect_dev: access to 192.168.7.35 denied [net] connect_dev: closing connection to 192.168.7.35 [net] sane_get_devices: ignoring failure to connect to 192.168.7.35 [net] sane_get_devices: finished (0 devices) No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). [net] sane_exit: exiting [net] sane_exit: closing dev 0x8054450, ctl=-1 [net] sane_exit: finished. [root@h2o sane.d]# It looks very near working only in the very end while trying to acess the device did things go wrong. The server with the hp G85 attached does not have the same user list as the terminal server with the clients attached. Do I need to setup a user profile for each user on the server who will be acessing scanning services via saned net? > Hi, > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 12:16:19AM +0100, Steven Lowette wrote: > > If I run saned as a daemon from inetd or xinetd, with full debug output, > > What do you mean by ""with full debug output"? If you set options -d > or -s you can't run saned from inetd or xinetd, that's for manual > start only. > > > I > > get in my /var/log/syslog after a remote scanimage -L: > > > > Nov 7 12:06:26 igor saned[3704]: main: starting debug mode (level 128) > > Nov 7 12:06:27 igor saned[3704]: main: trying to get port for service > > `sane' (getservbyname) > > Nov 7 12:06:30 igor saned[3704]: main: port is 6566 > > Nov 7 12:06:30 igor saned[3704]: main: socket () > > Nov 7 12:06:30 igor saned[3704]: main: setsockopt () > > Nov 7 12:06:30 igor saned[3704]: main: bind () > > Nov 7 12:06:30 igor saned[3704]: main: bind failed: Address already in > > use > > Well, the address is already in use :-) Explanation: xinetd binds to > port 6566 and starts saned, if a request comes in. The communication > between saned and xinetd uses stdin and out. > > However, if you run saned -d from xinetd, saned will try to open port > 6566. Bang! That one is already opened by xinetd. > > So remove "-d" from saned in xinetd.conf. > > > If I run manually saned -d128 on the command line, the same > > remote 'scanimage -L' works. However, issuing 'scanimage hp:/dev/scanner' > > starts and finishes a scan, but yields an IO-error after some time (with > > no image output on the scanimage side): > > > > sane_start: Error during device I/O > > scanimage hp:/dev/scanner can't work. First, the option for setting > the device is -d. Second, you want to scan over the net, so the > command would be e.g.: > > scanimage -d net:hostname:hp:/dev/scanner > > But I don't think that's the real problem. > > What's the debug output when you run saned -d128? > > > I have iptables running on the machine with the scanner, but that's ok. > > Sure? You need port 6566 and a data port. The data port is selected > by the system running saned. It can be any port > 1024. > > > With the filters disabled, the problem remains. The computer with the > > scanner is very slow, but as the local scanning works, I guess this is > > neither an issue. > > Try local network scanning first. On the computer with the scanner, > add "localhost" to net.conf. Try scanning with: > scanimage -d net:localhost:hp:/dev/scanner > > No errors? Then it's either a problem with your filters or the second > computer. > > To get more debugging on the client: > > SANE_DEBUG_NET=255 scanimage -L > > Bye, > Henning > ___ > Sane-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
Hi, Here's a common joke, How do you bring a computer to its knees? Put a WD drive in it! as they don't follow the standards or support their drives under free software OS's. This is why you dont want WD, email them and tell them this as well. I've got an 80GB drive running about twice as fast as a floppy disk.. (well nearly ;))) JG # hdparm -i /dev/hde /dev/hde: Model=WDC WD800BB-00CAA1, FwRev=17.07W17, SerialNo=WD-WMA8E3405796 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4 5 James Sparenberg wrote: Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. James On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector Journal-601, buffer write failed Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! invalid operand: cpu 0 Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any light to shed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! HEAVENS!!!
Actually, there is no acceleration for an nVidia card under the default "nv" driver. Check the documentation. You need to install the "nvidia" drivers to get that. Ric -Original Message- From: Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 12:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! HEAVENS!!! On Qua 11 Dez 2002 07:17, Simon Naish wrote: Is that to taken seriously? I got 715.600fps on my gf2 with nvidia drivers! Just to be sure. that's 3758 frames in 5 seconds! Ricardo > Just my 2 cents worth but as far as I can tell there is no hardware > acceleration available from the nv driver. 340 fps is seriously poor for > the small window of gears, and bout right for no hardware accelertion, try > 6000 (yup 6000) fps with hardware acceleration and a reasonable to good > modern graphics card. I cant see the open source drivers getting close :o( > for a very very very long time. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:14:41 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! > > > On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:06 am, you wrote: > > > XFree's nv driver does have 3d/accel, XFree86-4.2.1. > > > My GeF2 gets 35 fps with glxgears in fullscreen, 1024x768x16. 340 fps > > > in the smaller default window using the nv driver. Either try the > > > older 2960 nvidia src.rpms, or if limited 3d/accel is all you need, > > > avoid the nvidia binary crap altogether. > > > > Tom, does this mean that sometime (with ongoing development?) in the > > future we might actually see the fully open sourced drivers being > > comparable to performance to the closed ones? It would be nice to be able > > to drop the proprietary drivers... > > > > Got my fingers crossed! :-) > > > > -- > > > > /\ Dark< >Lord \/ > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- == Linux user # 102240 => Machine # 96125 => Seti@home user == http://counter.li.org/ & Get Counted! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] named, httpd dysfunctional on reboot (sometimes)
I ran into this issue and found a solution for this information. Here goes: >From what I've discerned this is a problem with the rndc (Name Server Control Utility) not being configured. I experienced this issue in bind-9.2.1-2.2mdk. Try the named -g command. If you have an error concerning the 'couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953' then you need to configure the rndc.conf information in the /etc/rndc.conf and /etc/named.conf files. Check man -k rndc and run the rndc-confgen. HTH. Vox wrote: > This time Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > becomes daring and writes: > > > On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 07:28 PM, Vox wrote: > > > >>> Absolutely. I had the privilege of listening to Theo give a talk at > >>> CanSec West 2000. Of course, he knocked Linux a lot (but had the > >>> highest praise for OpenBSD, of course). It was still very > >>> informative... and I can't say I disagree with him. > >> > >> That's the worse part of it all...it hurts to hear him, but I've not > >> found many (if any) instances in which I can bash back at him > >> because he's wrong :) > > > > Well, on a technical standpoint, no, he's not often wrong. At least > > not in my dealings with him. From a social standpoint, well... let's > > just say he and I don't often see eye to eye. I've had quite a number > > of... ahem... discussions with Theo in the past that turned quite > > muddy. > > I've been in 2 flamewars with Theo...not an experience I want to > repeat :) > > Well, yes, that's true :) Tho I proly won't live it down with the > other geeks here at the LUG if they notice I have that thing > installed...bunch of FSF manics make RMS look conservative :) > >>> > >>> Bah. You can point fingers at them when they're running around trying > >>> to patch bind and you're doing more productive things. Zealotry gets > >>> you nowhere. > >> > >> Uhm...the latest BIND exploit doesn't affect bind9, right? :) And I > >> agree with you...zealotry gets you nowhere...and I get enough > >> bashing already with my use of nvidia drivers...but I can still > >> enjoy warcraft3 and they can't ;) > > > > > > No, it doesn't affect BIND9. However, there are other issues here, > > and I'm extremely pissed with ISC at the moment. I'll boycott BIND in > > any way I can. Nevermind the technical merits for not using BIND, > > there are social merits here that need to be looked at. > > Uhm...I'd love to hear more about this. And as I told today a few of > the geeks from the local LUG (about 60% of the LUG gets together in > my home every day...high bandwidth + tons of nodes + wireless = > geekhouse and everybody wants to be here :) and the bashing started > fast :) I'll proly spend some time this weekend installing > it...make the bashing have a reason ;) > > > And yes... zealotry is nothing. In fact, I think of myself as quite a > > Linux activist, but I'd literally slash my throat if I thought I was > > becoming a zealot. I appreciate many different operating systems for > > the many things they provide; each has it's own strength and weakness. > > For instance, I appreciate being able to play EverQuest on my Win2k > > box. I also appreciate not being able to run anything of consequence > > on the same box because then I'll appreciate my Linux boxes even more. > > =) > > I don't have any winboxes around...but that's mostly because a) I'm > not a gamer and b) the few games I enjoy (Diablo2 and WarCraft3) do > work very well on winex. Only pain I have right now is that Civ3 > stopped working in winex with the upgrade to 9.0...guess something > to do with glibc or gcc or something...but I don't care enough to > actually investigate or spend another 5 bucks to see if they have a > newer version for mdk9 that works with Civ3 :) > > Vox > > -- > Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind > of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ > technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer & Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] performance issues - named and apache
Jim & Jack, Sounds to me like the 'dreaded' rndc.conf failure. try the named -g command. If you have an error concerning the 'couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953' then you need to configure the rndc.conf information in the /etc/rndc.conf and /etc/named.conf files. Check man -k rndc and run the rndc-confgen. HTH. This is NO Kludge, but rather a FIX of this problem. Jack Coates wrote: > > chkconfig httpd off > vi /etc/init.d/named & put (without ticks) '/sbin/service httpd start' > at the end of the start stanza and '/sbin/service httpd stop' at the end > of the stop stanza. > > > not sure that this will work, it depends on whether the daemon function > in /etc/init.d/services waits for a complete start out of named. > > I suppose an even bigger kludge would be to just stick sleep 6000 at the > top of /etc/init.d/httpd > > Jack > > On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 06:50, Jim Tarvid wrote: > > Under normal circumstances, one of my servers handles dns for 180 domains and > > apache about 100 virtual servers. > > > > Twice recently, once with 8.3 (cooker) and last night with 9.0 life turned > > sour. > > > > On a reboot, named loads zones very slowly - one every 20 to 30 seconds. > > > > Apache comes up broken in one way or another, last night it was PHP timing > > out on name resolution. > > > > In both cases cpu load was less than 0.2, memory was 25% of real memory and > > df never exceeds 50% for any partition. That is, the problem is not resources. > > > > Obviously, tasks are waiting for each other. > > > > An obvious fix is to put DNS on a separate server. Currently I have the > > server is doing DNS for its own domains. It shouldn't take too much of a > > machine to do my DNS. > > > > Another would be to get DNS to finish its load before starting other servers > > dependent on DNS. > > > > Is there a fix? > > > > Jim Tarvid > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > -- > Jack Coates > Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer & Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] LDAP -Got it -
All; Thank you for the assist. Vincent: An excellent write up on LDAP! With that write up in hand, I got my client to connect to the company LDAP server. Ric Now if I can just solve that pesky lock up problem.. -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] LDAP Thank you! I'll be looking at that today. At first glance, my configuration looks good.. it just doesn't work.. ;) (obviously, I'm missing something somewhere, and I need to look deeper). Ric -Original Message- From: Todd Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] LDAP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:37:36AM -0700 : > > >LDAP experts out there shed some light on this for me? > Have you looked here: > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/ldap-auth.php Vincent's document is a step by step terrific document for configuring both client and server. Please do follow it there and it will work for you. Part of what you're up against is that you must understand how LDAP works first. Once you gain that understanding, all the authentication stuff will make sense too. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+m7Hlp7v05cW2woRAh9bAJ9pP4nAC1YImWh5YmsweYLrIlBjbACdGJ3E 5jg0JgIp2CX3DaPocWYSlFA= =Ob4L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
My WD 40G drives always work without a hitch. Brian D. Klar - CVE Multimax Network Engineer WPAFB -Original Message- From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:10 PM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. James On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: > Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just tried an > install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the > size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? > > End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > Journal-601, buffer write failed > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > invalid operand: > cpu 0 > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done > some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any > light to shed? > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
Civilme should be here on this one. If you do a search through the archives for Civilme + Western Digital you'll find a more complete explanation but if I remember right it has something to do with the way WD has chosen to not follow DMA standards. Linux does rather strict checking and WD doesn't so WD drives can be problematic. James On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 06:28, Lorne wrote: > Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just tried an > install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the > size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? > > End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector > Journal-601, buffer write failed > Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! > invalid operand: > cpu 0 > > Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done > some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any > light to shed? > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Hi, So these programs are good now? limeware was poor last time i tried, and the gnutella was nearly as bad. I got Kazaa 1.72 working, 2.02 would not work. I start it like this "wine --dll shlwapi,shfolder,shdocvw=n zazaa.exe" if that is useful for anyone. JG Todd Franklin wrote: Please take no offense, but why do you need kazaa for linux when you have gtk-gnutelk, qtella, limeware, etc. ? SainTiss wrote: Hi, actually, I don't get that working either... installed it, replaced the .exe, and put the HOSTS file in /mnt/win_c/windows as well as in /etc, but kazaa crashes at startup... it shows the window for a few seconds, but then I get "uncaught exception"... Any ideas? Thanks Hans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] maximum capacity
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 08:06, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > Reiser 3.5 and 3.6 can handle up to 17.6 Terrabyte in a single > filesystem. (check www.namesys.com) > Practically speaking this is also the maximum file size, which is > logical given the partition size. > > So it shouldn't be reiser... maybe the drive is malfunctioning, or it is > not supported by your BIOS (that large). This used to be the case with > 2-4 GB drivers in 486's or early pentiums. The manufacturers often get > arround this by installing some low-level driver. Unfortunately these > are often incompatible with *NIX. > I've always been under the impression that Linux unloads the BIOS from memory and then supports disk activity itself. I've used large disks (10G) in old computers (P75) successfully by not configuring the disk in the BIOS at all. > Maybe you can try JFS, XFS or EXT3 to check? > > Kind regards > > Guy > > > > Perhaps a dumb question, but what is the maximum partition size you can make a > > linux ext2, or reisfer or any other linux partition? The reason I ask, is I > > just purchased a 180gb IDE drive and Reiser is choking. I've done a cursory > > search on the internet and not seeing anything. > -- > Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] and yet another test
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[expert] Fwd: [Cooker] rosegarden-4-0.82mdk.rpm midi notation package
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Cooker] rosegarden-4-0.82mdk.rpm midi notation package Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:22:43 -0800 From: Brent Hasty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: List Cookers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, List MDK Expert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, List MDK Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am attempting to install rosegarden-4 midi notation package and am running into a dependancy problem, I have checked rpm-find and others for mandrake versions of these without luick, maby someone out there can help, maby even proviede a more mdk 9.0 friendly version of this package. The failed dependancys are: alsa-driver >= 0.9.0 beta12 jack-audio-connection-kit libasound.so.1 -- 12:18am up 4 days, 48 min, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 --- -- 9:06am up 4 days, 9:36, 7 users, load average: 0.48, 0.50, 0.46 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pdfnup (as in psnup) - can i find one?
Hello Although I have written a pdfnup (pdf2ps, ps2pdf and psnup) script for my own use, I am not happy with the results. The original file has 7 MB and two-page-per-sheet outcome 30 MB. (These are pdf files - when they are converted to PS, things go worse). My HP 4100 chokes with the latter. Does someone know of a better way to create multiple pages per sheet pdf files? Many thanks Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CUPS permission denied.
Damian Gatabria wrote: Hi. Does anybody know which file permissions i need to change so CUPS let's me change my printer settings? Currently i cannot do it ("permission denied" even as root) Thanks much. Damian I had such a problem in 9.0, after no problems since 7.1. One thing that caused this is an initscripts security update, which was fixed by a subsequent update. Some people had problems that were fixed by a new foomatic. These are the current versions where CUPS works for me: initscripts-6.91-16.1mdk foomatic-2.0.2-20021030.1.2mdk One other thing that helped me at one point is the edit to cupsd.conf that is explained on the following documentation page: http://localhost:631/sam.html#ALLOW_REMOTE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [repost] GPG encrypted disk image
Just thought I'd let you all know. The upcoming reiserfs4 will include "Encryption On Commit". This does approximately what I described below, but not on a fs image, but on single files withing the filesystem. The encryption is done through plugins to reiser. The current schedule puts its release in june 2003. Kind regards Guy On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 16:52, Jack Coates wrote: > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 07:30, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Hello everyone > > > > I've been looking arround for a way to use a PGP(/GPG) encrypted disk > > image on Linux. PGPdisk seems to provide it for windows (although the > > fact that the underlying OS is insecure neutralises the security). > > > > What I have in mind is a disk image with a filesystem on it that > > provides on the fly encryption with gnupg. > > That part is easy, but it should be mounted without decrypting it to > > disk first (avoiding a vulnerable copy that can be recovered). > > > > If your system has been compromised to the level that an attacker can > read an encrypted or decrpyted disk image in your home directory, then > that attacker is just as capable of reading your key ring. Getting the > passphrase is a mite tougher, but hardly impossible -- in fact, given > the timeout mentioned below it's somewhat likely that the passphrase > will be in .bash_history because your going to be typing it all the > time. Get a slow prompt or the wrong xterm, whoops! Of course, since the > attacker has shell with root or your privileges, they can easily run a > keyboard sniffer on your session. .bash_history will certainly provide a > lovely list of the files that you're using most frequently from the > encrypted area. > > > let's say that I have an image called /home/gvs/safe.imgpg. > > It should be mounted with something like 'mount -t gpg_img > > /home/gvs/safe.imgpg /home/gvs/safe, where you put your passphrase in. > > > > The trick is that the image should never be fully decrypted, if the > > system is powered off without unmounting, the image should remain > > encrypted. > > Using OpenPGP for the encryption has the advantage over other encrypted > > filesystems that you need both the private key and the passphrase to > > decrypt it, which makes it safe to transport it over insecure channels > > (like ftp). > > > > Maybe some option can be added, setting a timeout for the passphrase > > (next access needs it to be re-entered). > > > > Has anyone ever heard of something like this? > > Or any ideas how exactly this can be pieced together with existing > > programs? > > > > Have a look at http://www.kerneli.org for the basic tools, but it looks > to me like they've taken down their crypto-filesystem howto, at least > partially because of the argument above IIRC. The problem is the same on > Unix as on Windows -- you're trying to secure something while you're > using it. -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[expert] maximum capacity
Reiser 3.5 and 3.6 can handle up to 17.6 Terrabyte in a single filesystem. (check www.namesys.com) Practically speaking this is also the maximum file size, which is logical given the partition size. So it shouldn't be reiser... maybe the drive is malfunctioning, or it is not supported by your BIOS (that large). This used to be the case with 2-4 GB drivers in 486's or early pentiums. The manufacturers often get arround this by installing some low-level driver. Unfortunately these are often incompatible with *NIX. Maybe you can try JFS, XFS or EXT3 to check? Kind regards Guy > Perhaps a dumb question, but what is the maximum partition size you can make a > linux ext2, or reisfer or any other linux partition? The reason I ask, is I > just purchased a 180gb IDE drive and Reiser is choking. I've done a cursory > search on the internet and not seeing anything. -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Hi, I have not got it working yet, here are the URL's I'm reading, it seems posible. JG http://www.christian-gerner.de/computer/linux/kazaa.htm http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?appId=747 SainTiss wrote: Hi, actually, I don't get that working either... installed it, replaced the .exe, and put the HOSTS file in /mnt/win_c/windows as well as in /etc, but kazaa crashes at startup... it shows the window for a few seconds, but then I get "uncaught exception"... Any ideas? Thanks Hans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Please take no offense, but why do you need kazaa for linux when you have gtk-gnutelk, qtella, limeware, etc. ? SainTiss wrote: Hi, actually, I don't get that working either... installed it, replaced the .exe, and put the HOSTS file in /mnt/win_c/windows as well as in /etc, but kazaa crashes at startup... it shows the window for a few seconds, but then I get "uncaught exception"... Any ideas? Thanks Hans On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 14:54, Simon Ree wrote: Kazaa for linux will never connect. If you want to use kazaa you need to install wine and then check out http://www.kazaalite.com. The install for linux instructions get the job done. Simon J. Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I downloaded kazaa for linux a few weeks ago. needed to install an old ncurses to get it to run, but it is not ever connecting. Support seems to be missing from the kazaa.com site as well now. Has anyone got this working? or found a better working p2p network client for GNU/linux? Regards JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Simon Rée [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Hi, actually, I don't get that working either... installed it, replaced the .exe, and put the HOSTS file in /mnt/win_c/windows as well as in /etc, but kazaa crashes at startup... it shows the window for a few seconds, but then I get "uncaught exception"... Any ideas? Thanks Hans On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 14:54, Simon Ree wrote: > Kazaa for linux will never connect. If you want to use kazaa you need > to install wine and then check out http://www.kazaalite.com. The > install for linux instructions get the job done. > > Simon > > J. Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded kazaa for linux a few weeks ago. needed to install an old > > ncurses to get it to run, but it is not ever connecting. Support seems > > to be missing from the kazaa.com site as well now. Has anyone got this > > working? or found a better working p2p network client for GNU/linux? > > > > Regards > > > > JG > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > -- > Simon Rée > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [expert] hdc lost interrupt
Got this problem one time... Changed the CDrom drive and it solved the problem. Albert Charron Trisotech Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 décembre 2002 14:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] hdc lost interrupt On Sunday 15 December 2002 04:38 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > At 06.48 15/12/2002, you wrote: > >Hey guys, I'm having a strange problem I'm hoping someone else has run > > into. > > > >I'm trying to install MNF onto an AMD 350 system. One HD on the primary > >channel and one CDROM on the secondary. I've also tried it with the HD and > >CDROM both on the primary and the secondary disabled. The first way, it > > gets to the thank you screen (starting to install). In TTY4 I see that > > HDC lost interrupt over and over. When both are on the same primary > > channel I get HDA interrupt lost. That is it. I can't get past this. > > > >It sure seems hardware, since I was unable to install openbsd. I can't > > figure out what is wrong here. Help! > > I have the same problem with an old 486. > It sure is frustrating! It would be a perfect firewall box. 390+mb ram, 350mhz amd processor. LOTS Of horsepower, but danged if I can install. > Olaf > > > for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 8:13 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system > for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms > and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest > problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except > kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have > met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and > 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: > > praedor You could try building that package from the source (kdemultimedia-3.0.5.tar.bz2) rather than the src.rpm. That might help. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] clonning HD
Lieven Van Acker wrote: > partimage: cloning partitions > parted: resizing partitions Partition Magic: cloning and resizing and formatting and more -- "If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you. . . ." Proverbs 9:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] clonning HD
partimage: cloning partitions parted: resizing partitions don't know locations. Try google... regards, Lieven Van Acker Op vr 13-12-2002, om 12:49 schreef Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva: > Hi List, > > I have an idea about how 'dd' can be powerful. However I don't > know if it's able to clone my HD to another bigger size one. > > If so, how could I do it? > > If not, could someone suggest me a programme or something to clone > a HD with data and whole OS to a new one > > Many thanks in advance, > > Cheers, > > --- > Alan Wilter S. da Silva > --- > Laboratório de Física Biológica > Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho >Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Lieven Van Acker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ELiSA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] clonning HD
partimage: cloning partitions parted: resizing partitions don't know locations. Try google... regards, Lieven Van Acker Op vr 13-12-2002, om 12:49 schreef Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva: > Hi List, > > I have an idea about how 'dd' can be powerful. However I don't > know if it's able to clone my HD to another bigger size one. > > If so, how could I do it? > > If not, could someone suggest me a programme or something to clone > a HD with data and whole OS to a new one > > Many thanks in advance, > > Cheers, > > --- > Alan Wilter S. da Silva > --- > Laboratório de Física Biológica > Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho >Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Lieven Van Acker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ELiSA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
You can get the 3 cd 9.0 set from Cheap Bytes or SpiderTools for $3.49, shipped. Just a thought, but perhaps it is a 2.96 compiler problem. As I recal, 8.2 used gcc 2.96, which had a few weird problems. I did finally get KDE 3.0.1 installed on 8.2, but I believe I had a problem with multimedia package too. IMO, 9.0 is much better than 8.2 was. I've never had a problem installing any package from the 9.0 cd's, and gcc 3.2. Are you sure the qt version is correct, and is already installed? Robert Crawford On Sunday 15 December 2002 04:13 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's > for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has > them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's > as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and > then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why > you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going > through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different > libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. > > Regards > > J > > Praedor Atrebates wrote: > >On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: > >>Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be > >>easier?? > >> > >>Cheers > > > >Hello, > > > >I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still > > using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous > > for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have > > to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, > > supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my > > kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went > > back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 > > until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must > > build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. > > > >praedor > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
Well it seems that this is more serious than I first thought. I just tried an install to this new WD 180GB drive. Seems there is some limitations to the size of the drive, or the drive is junk. ?? Maybe truly a kernel bug. ? End_request: I/O error, Dev 03:47 (hdb), sector Journal-601, buffer write failed Kernel BUG at prints.c:334! invalid operand: cpu 0 Then a dump. I've taken a photo of it if the actual text is helpful. I've done some reading that WD drives don't work well with Linux? Anybody have any light to shed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Kazaa for linux will never connect. If you want to use kazaa you need to install wine and then check out http://www.kazaalite.com. The install for linux instructions get the job done. Simon J. Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded kazaa for linux a few weeks ago. needed to install an old > ncurses to get it to run, but it is not ever connecting. Support seems > to be missing from the kazaa.com site as well now. Has anyone got this > working? or found a better working p2p network client for GNU/linux? > > Regards > > JG > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Simon Rée [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Kazaa for linux
Hi, I downloaded kazaa for linux a few weeks ago. needed to install an old ncurses to get it to run, but it is not ever connecting. Support seems to be missing from the kazaa.com site as well now. Has anyone got this working? or found a better working p2p network client for GNU/linux? Regards JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Postfix does not work after migrating to 9.0
I think I have found simply I thought that asking IMAP to be a boot-startup service, would have forced its installation. Actually, IMAP was not installed once installed, everything was OK. Thanks a lot indeed and sorry again /stefano Jim Tarvid wrote: postfix runs chroot in default mandrake installs. check /var/spool/postfix/etc to make sure it is identical to the same files in /etc. Jim Tarvid On Monday 16 December 2002 03:58 am, you wrote: I migrated yesterday to 9.0. I saved my account and the etc structure so that (I thought) I could reconfigure easily. So, In 8.2 I had an IMAP service on my PC which was using the Postfix SMTP. My server is scarlet.poglianis.net (the domain does not exist in reality, it is just inside my firewall). I tried to configure all the postfix files as they were before, but NO LUCK. When I try to connect to any of my IMAP folders, I get the error saying "Could not connect to mail server scarlet.poglianis.net; the connection was refused". What did I do wrong? I saw that the config of postfix changed between 8.2 and 9.0. (at least the part under /var/spool/postifx seems to have changed quite a lot). Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [expert] Postfix does not work after migrating to 9.0
postfix runs chroot in default mandrake installs. check /var/spool/postfix/etc to make sure it is identical to the same files in /etc. Jim Tarvid On Monday 16 December 2002 03:58 am, you wrote: > I migrated yesterday to 9.0. > > I saved my account and the etc structure so that (I thought) I could > reconfigure easily. > > So, In 8.2 I had an IMAP service on my PC which was using the Postfix SMTP. > My server is scarlet.poglianis.net (the domain does not exist in > reality, it is just inside my firewall). > > I tried to configure all the postfix files as they were before, but NO > LUCK. When I try to connect to any of my IMAP folders, I get the error > saying "Could not connect to mail server scarlet.poglianis.net; the > connection was refused". > > What did I do wrong? > I saw that the config of postfix changed between 8.2 and 9.0. (at least > the part under /var/spool/postifx seems to have changed quite a lot). > > Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards > /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] LDAP
Thank you! I'll be looking at that today. At first glance, my configuration looks good.. it just doesn't work.. ;) (obviously, I'm missing something somewhere, and I need to look deeper). Ric -Original Message- From: Todd Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] LDAP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:37:36AM -0700 : > > >LDAP experts out there shed some light on this for me? > Have you looked here: > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/ldap-auth.php Vincent's document is a step by step terrific document for configuring both client and server. Please do follow it there and it will work for you. Part of what you're up against is that you must understand how LDAP works first. Once you gain that understanding, all the authentication stuff will make sense too. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+m7Hlp7v05cW2woRAh9bAJ9pP4nAC1YImWh5YmsweYLrIlBjbACdGJ3E 5jg0JgIp2CX3DaPocWYSlFA= =Ob4L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Problem with X and mandrake
Dear Mandrake experts, I have just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my PC. It is an old RM machine, with ATI display card and Taxan Ergovision 730 display. After restarting X, the display begin to flick on and off at a frequency of once 2-3 seconds. I can hear click sounds from my display. Do you have any idea about the reason of this? Thanks! Xingyuan
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Thanks, Well...I'll relent and go with 9.0 as the kde rpms I've built don't work properly vis a vis alsa. As a matter of fact, one of the things I had to do to get one of the rpms to build (arts? I don't recall) was update my kernel alsa-driver from 0.5.12a to 0.9.0rc2. I got everything except for kdemultimedia rpms built without any burps. The kdemultimedia builds for a long time then craps out with kmix problems regarding alsa. Doing a ./configure --path=/usr && make && make install in the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.x directory produces a "successful" build but sound doesn't work properly. In order to get all this working I either have to go back and reinstall 8.2 it seems or move on to 9.0 and fix its problems (upgrade to Cooker kernel). I'll give it a go. My supermount problem was with regards to my zip drive - loading fine but refusing to unload. I don't recall the specifics of my usb problems at this point, only that going back to the 2.4.18 kernels on 8.2 got around them (as well as avoiding the supermount problem). My hardware is "cheap" either. On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:29 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I > disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install > I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the > current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my > home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest > cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have > been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker > List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment, > perhaps the list can give more insight here... [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [repost] GPG encrypted disk image
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 16:52, Jack Coates wrote: > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 07:30, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Hello everyone > > > If your system has been compromised to the level that an attacker can > read an encrypted or decrpyted disk image in your home directory, then > that attacker is just as capable of reading your key ring. Getting the > passphrase is a mite tougher, but hardly impossible -- in fact, given > the timeout mentioned below it's somewhat likely that the passphrase > will be in .bash_history because your going to be typing it all the > time. Get a slow prompt or the wrong xterm, whoops! Of course, since the > attacker has shell with root or your privileges, they can easily run a > keyboard sniffer on your session. .bash_history will certainly provide a > lovely list of the files that you're using most frequently from the > encrypted area. I see your point here... The thing is that I'm trying to come up with a solution for the fact that sometimes it is impossible to restrict physical access to machines. In my case, all my equipment is in the living room (it was the only possibility). Lately, I've been getting more and more concerned with prosecutions of people that are anti-MS/DRM/kapitalism... So I was thinking about providing a safe infrastructure for people doing e.g. security research at home. The system should be so that confiscating a machine (which most of the time is powered down immediately by law enforcement) would render the data unusable. I realise that this is hard to do, and has caveats in it. So I'm open to all other suggestions/alternatives... > > > > Have a look at http://www.kerneli.org for the basic tools, but it looks > to me like they've taken down their crypto-filesystem howto, at least > partially because of the argument above IIRC. The problem is the same on > Unix as on Windows -- you're trying to secure something while you're > using it. Indeed, I am. Thanks for your comments. -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] [repost] DVDrip and transcode
Thanks for the suggestion Pete I checked it: locate libdvdcss.so /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.0.0.3 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.0 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.3 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2 /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so rpm -qf /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so libdvdcss2-devel-1.2.3-1plf But transcode is still dead in the water... It appears to work, but the movie doesn't play. I verified that the player works with DivX3,4 and 5. Are you using the same package? Kind regards Guy > > I struggled with dvd::rip for a while until I found that i was missing > libdvdcss.so now all is fine. Perhaps you chould check that you have that > > -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[expert] Evolution Weirdness
Hello I'm having a very weird problem with evolution... Currently, I'm running 1.2, but it was there too on 1.0.8. My system is Mandrake 9.0. My mail-list-display shows times in 12 hour format, where my locale is set to use 24 hour. All other apps (like sylpheed) detect this correct. But here comes the weird part, All other users on the system have the same locale settings (it is done via /etc/profile.d). Evolution for them shows the 24 hour format. If I copy my evolution directory to another account, it shows 24 hour format. If I remove my home directory and replace it with an empty one, the 12 hour setting remains. It seems only linked to my userID. Verifying with a working Id on my system, settings apart from UID seem identical: >id gvs <<-- has the problem uid=1002(gvs) gid=1002(home) groups=1002(home),80(cdwriter),1001(users),1004(cvs) >id ness uid=1003(ness) gid=1002(home) groups=1002(home),80(cdwriter),1001(users),1004(cvs) >locale (for both) LANG=en_BE.ISO-8859-15 LC_CTYPE=en_US LC_NUMERIC=en_US LC_TIME=en_BE.ISO-8859-15 LC_COLLATE=en_US LC_MONETARY=en_US LC_MESSAGES=en_US LC_PAPER="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_NAME="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_ADDRESS="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_TELEPHONE="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_BE.ISO-8859-15" LC_ALL= There are no specific profile settings for gvs, as I can rule out diffences in the homedir. The Mandrake 9 system is newly installed and replaces my SuSE 8.0 with also had the same problem. Some background: my userID's are obtained from a NIS server running FreeBSD. The homedirectories are also mounted from that system, with the 'nolock' option to make evolution happy. Help ;-) Guy -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[expert] XFree 4 resolutions
Hello I have a slight problem with XFree. I set up my parent's PC to watch DVD's on a TV. To to this, the resolution needs to be switched to 800x600 under their USERID's (no root). This works by pressing CTRL-ALT-+/- The monitor switches to 800x600 but the desktop doesn't. It is now larger then the physical screen, and you can scroll through it with the mouse. Is there some option I can set to turn this behaviour off? Thanks Guy -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] is it possible to have the 3 iso of mdk 9.1 in a dvd iso?
Well yes, I have a DVD iso, came on the cover of a agazine, Linux format or Linux magazine, afraid I dont remember which. - Original Message - From: "francesco.melo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:22:35 +0100 To: expert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [expert] is it possible to have the 3 iso of mdk 9.1 in a dvd iso? i have dvd-r burner ... so for me and i think for other user it is better to have a single big iso in the mirror and burn it in a dvd-+r .. is it possible? thanks francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Postfix does not work after migrating to 9.0
This time Stefano Pogliani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: > I migrated yesterday to 9.0. > > I saved my account and the etc structure so that (I thought) I could > reconfigure easily. > > So, In 8.2 I had an IMAP service on my PC which was using the Postfix SMTP. > My server is scarlet.poglianis.net (the domain does not exist in > reality, it is just inside my firewall). > > I tried to configure all the postfix files as they were before, but NO > LUCK. When I try to connect to any of my IMAP folders, I get the error > saying "Could not connect to mail server scarlet.poglianis.net; the > connection was refused". > > What did I do wrong? > I saw that the config of postfix changed between 8.2 and 9.0. (at > least the part under /var/spool/postifx seems to have changed quite a > lot). You'd need to check /var/log/mail/* and see what's going on every step of the way...from postfix's startup to the moment you try to send/get mail...pay particular attention to the warnings and errors files. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. msg62762/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Postfix does not work after migrating to 9.0
I migrated yesterday to 9.0. I saved my account and the etc structure so that (I thought) I could reconfigure easily. So, In 8.2 I had an IMAP service on my PC which was using the Postfix SMTP. My server is scarlet.poglianis.net (the domain does not exist in reality, it is just inside my firewall). I tried to configure all the postfix files as they were before, but NO LUCK. When I try to connect to any of my IMAP folders, I get the error saying "Could not connect to mail server scarlet.poglianis.net; the connection was refused". What did I do wrong? I saw that the config of postfix changed between 8.2 and 9.0. (at least the part under /var/spool/postifx seems to have changed quite a lot). Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature