Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 22:08, Lorne wrote: > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 12:38 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > > > > PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT MAKE THE FIREWALL SERVE A BUNCH OF SERVICES! > > Try the converse on for size. Don't restrict access to services on a machine because you should really do that on a separate machine. Wietse must have been misguided when writing TCP wrappers. Then try and answer these two questions. Is it really better to burn a hole in your wall for SMTP than it is to put SMTP on the gateway machine? Can I really get better security by permitting burning holes with persistent http tunnels than by installing a transparenet proxy on the gateway? Jim Tarvid Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
There was talk about updates being available for this product for three years. But at present i only see a one year support cycle. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server and http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg65843.html from which i quote From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote: > I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and > that as such had no obligations to be a server.. Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a server OS. The support timeframe will likely be 3-4 years, possibly more. I'm not 100% sure on this yet (not my call). On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:35, Jim Hubbard wrote: > This thread is beginning to stray from the original point I was trying > to make, which is that Mandrake has an opportunity to pick up where > Redhat has left off. There are many folks out there that are looking > for the same benefits that running Redhat provided only a few months > ago, but now does not. All Mandrake needs to do is extend the EOL. I > only hope they're smart enough to see it. > > Sincerely, > Jim Hubbard -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] why sendmail updates are 8.12.6 instead 8.12.8 for MDK 9.0 ?
Hi i have a question : why sendmail updates for MDK 9.0 are sendmail-8.12.6 instead sendmail 8.12.8 ??? wbr, maxx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!?
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:58, stefmit wrote: > Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to ask > this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive results), but it > is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is there an equivalent > multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic is for Windows? > > TIA, > Stef Peruse the definitive list, site by site looking for a linux version. http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/utilities.html or try the online equivalent. http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/metacrawlers.html BTW http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ is a permanent bookmark of mine since i heard this quote somewhere. "The internet is like a library. But a library where someone has ripped the covers off all the books and thrown them on the floor. You can either wade in yourself and pick up each book looking for what you want, or use a search engine that has already done this for you." Sorry, not verbatim, recalled from memory. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OK, what am I doing wrong when compiling a new kernel?!?
Ummm... nope. :) I think that was it :) Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: "Ray Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [expert] OK, what am I doing wrong when compiling a new kernel?!? > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:40:12PM +0100, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > > I do: > > make menuconfig > > make dep > > make clean > > make bzlilo > > make modules > > make modules_install > > lilo > > > > Everything works fine, but beside the new compiled kernel I cannot boot any > > other pre-existing kernel in my lilo.conf. :/> > Are you editing the EXTRAVERSION setting in the makefile to insure a > unique name for the new kernel? > Ray Warren > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
Whups, i should finish reading the posts before replying. Sorry Vincent. On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:26, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Tue Mar 04, 2003 at 10:52:18PM -0500, Jim Hubbard wrote: > > I think that now is a really good time for Mandrake to reconsider their > > will happen I think in about a year when dead versions start piling up. > > Corporate Server 2.1 was just announced, and it has a 3 year life policy. > It's also cheaper than RHAS I believe. There is your choice. Supporting > 9.1 for 3 years isn't an option. Mandrake Linux 9.1 is a desktop OS and > while it works quite nicely on servers, that is not it's intended (read: > support from us) function. > -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cron & tar
finally had to remove mdk9 and replace it with w2k today :( I have tried to get a backup happening for months now with little success. The script below works fine when run directly but when run as a cron task, it backs up some of the first directory (about 2 gb), then quits. no errors in the cron logs and the machine is ONLY used for backups. The task is set to run when the network is not in use. I have tried smbtar and every other way I could think of backing up, but it always seems to fail with cron. (all updates have been applied) Any ideas on what the problem might be? #!/bin/sh export USER=administrator%** smbmount //wallaby/users /mnt/temp tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2003.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2003 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2004.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2004 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2005.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2005 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2006.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2006 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2007.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2007 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2008.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2008 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/userstaff.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/staff --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . cd /mnt/windows tar -cvf /dev/st0 . smbumount /mnt/temp mt -f /dev/st0 offline Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0 installation fails on step 'Hard drive detection'(WDC WD800AB-00CBA1)
J. Grant wrote: Is it SCSI then? I thogught it was IDE Yes it is IDE. Works ok, as long as I set it as udma2 in the bios, have you done this? have you checked its got the right jumper settings? I couldn't find this option in BIOS and about jumpers I have no idea. But, now I've downloaded ML9.1 RC2 and I have no problems installing it :-)) thanks anyway! Andreas on the 05/03/03 22:07, Andreas Weiss wrote: hi, the installation of ML9.0 on a new PC hangs on the step "Hard drive detection --> starting step 'setupSCSI'" with no error messages. The harddisk is a Western Digital WDC WD800AB-00CBA1. I can install Suse Linux, but only with the kernel parameters: ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off With ML these parameters didn't help. noapic didn't help either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] did anyone succeed in compiling the 2.5.64 kernel?
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 17:35, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > thx. but btw, what is with the "su -c"? > I normally log in as root anyway when want to compile and install a kernel. > What does the "su -c" actually do when used in a command? > I used su before, but to change user and not inside a command? > Maybe this question belonged in the "newbie" list... :) basically it means su to root execute this command and exit back to the user. > > Thx again. > > Best regards, > Adrian > - Original Message - > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [expert] did anyone succeed in compiling the 2.5.64 kernel? > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Adrian Golumbovici wrote on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 05:10:57PM +0100 : > > > I disabled a lot of hardware I don't have which was giving compile > errors, > > > but trying to do a > > > make bzImage > > > or > > > make bzlilo > > > give an error after finishing compiling the kerenl at the point where it > > > should create the compressed immage. > > > > cd /usr/src/linux > > cp .config .. > > vi Makefile (and edit the EXTRAVERSION, such as add an extra number) > > make mrproper > > cp ../.config . > > make oldconfig > > make dep clean > > make modules bzImage > > su -c 'make modules_install' > > su -c 'make install' > > > > Why? http://us.mandrakesoft.com/unsupported/README.Mandrake > > > > Blue skies... Todd > > - -- > >MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com > > Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. > > All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML > > Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.11mdk > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+ZmJOlp7v05cW2woRAgRwAKDAsRGqV5Ul/uyuDZA2f9uf/zCc1QCgsm5J > > z2WO0KBRhAuDdch1Xdd/5/0= > > =ra4v > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cron & tar
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:54, Colin Jenkins wrote: > finally had to remove mdk9 and replace it with w2k today :( > I have tried to get a backup happening for months now with little success. > The script below works fine when run directly but when run as a cron task, > it backs up some of the first directory (about 2 gb), then quits. > no errors in the cron logs and the machine is ONLY used for backups. The > task is set to run when the network is not in use. > I have tried smbtar and every other way I could think of backing up, but it > always seems to fail with cron. > (all updates have been applied) > Any ideas on what the problem might be? > > #!/bin/sh > export USER=administrator%** > smbmount //wallaby/users /mnt/temp > > tar -cvf > /mnt/windows/user2003.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2003 > --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data > --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . [snip] I notice that you're not using compression. I seem to recall having seen a thread on the local LUG list about tar silently croaking in exactly this fashion when the output file reaches 2GB in size; I'll have a look at the archives and see if I can track down more detailed info for you, as there may have been a workaround mentioned (but maybe not, also). In the meantime, a couple of suggestions ... Google on tar and 2GB - bound to be something out there on this. Use compression and/or sectioning the file selection further to keep the generated file sizes always under this ceiling. I'll report back if I come up with more info for you. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cron & tar
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 11:50 am, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 04:54, Colin Jenkins wrote: > > finally had to remove mdk9 and replace it with w2k today :( > > I have tried to get a backup happening for months now with little > > success. The script below works fine when run directly but when run as a > > cron task, it backs up some of the first directory (about 2 gb), then > > quits. no errors in the cron logs and the machine is ONLY used for > > backups. The task is set to run when the network is not in use. > > I have tried smbtar and every other way I could think of backing up, but > > it always seems to fail with cron. > > (all updates have been applied) > > Any ideas on what the problem might be? > > > > #!/bin/sh > > export USER=administrator%** > > smbmount //wallaby/users /mnt/temp > > > > tar -cvf > > /mnt/windows/user2003.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2003 > > --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data > > --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . > > [snip] > > I notice that you're not using compression. I seem to recall having seen > a thread on the local LUG list about tar silently croaking in exactly > this fashion when the output file reaches 2GB in size; I'll have a look > at the archives and see if I can track down more detailed info for you, > as there may have been a workaround mentioned (but maybe not, also). > > In the meantime, a couple of suggestions ... > > Google on tar and 2GB - bound to be something out there on this. > > Use compression and/or sectioning the file selection further to keep the > generated file sizes always under this ceiling. > > I'll report back if I come up with more info for you. There was a thread on this issue on the newbie list, but I can't remember when. It's not too recent, so I would try searching pre new year. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ALSA + vt8233 = noisy in background
Thank you James. I was afraid to hear that and anxious as I am I got a SB live that works fantastically, even with ALSA. BTW, I miss my SB AWE32 and its midi capabilities, but it was ISA, so... Cheers, On 5 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > > Hi List! > > > > I got Alsa 0.9 rc8 working on my MDK 9.0 but when running xmms, or any > > other that needs decoding, I got a crap noisy in background. That also > > happened with alsa rc6 which came with MDK 9.0. > > You might want to wait for a new cooker kernel and try your luck there > or do what they are doing and upgrade to the latest alsa (I believe it > is alsa rc8a) Seems people are having better luck with this one. > > James > > > > > My sound hw is Via 8233 AC'97. > > > > I tried OSS (commercial) just to check my hardware and I must say it > > worked gracefully. > > > > So I ask specially to the ones who has such sound hw (in my came with via > > KM266 chipset) with alsa if they observed this problem and if they were > > able to fix it. > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Cheers, > > --- > > Alan Wilter S. da Silva > > --- > > Laboratório de Física Biológica > > Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho > >Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ > > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bindsocket
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:35:19 + David Whiting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [06/Mar/2003:07:17:05 +] StartListening: Unable to bind socket - > Cannot assign requested address. > > So, something is stopping it from getting the address it wants. I also > noticed that named wasn't happy either: see if anything else has port 631 with: lsof -i :631 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cups]# service named status > rndc: connection to remote host closed > This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of > the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, > or the key is invalid. Check that your /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.conf have the same secret (key). If that's ok, you'll need to dig into your network setup... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Replying [was Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?]
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:13:33 -0800 Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jim, Can you stop using reply to all? We use a list to keep the discussions out of our regular mail... > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:33 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > lsof -i :port# Hmm, I just tried that and I must be doing something wrong. I tried: lsof -i :28000 lsof -i :port28000 lsof -i :port#28000 lsof -i :port 28000 lsof -i :port# 28000 So...which one is correct? I got various different results and none looked um, correct... Thanks! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.0 installation fails on step 'Hard drive detection' (WDC WD800AB-00CBA1)
On Wednesday March 5 2003 04:49 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > Andreas Weiss wrote on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:07:12PM +0100 : > > I can install Suse Linux, but only with the kernel parameters: > > ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off > > With ML these parameters didn't help. noapic didn't help either. > > Try ide0=nodma and maybe noacpi as well. I've also seen > pci=noacpi, but I've never seen a case where it actually affected > anything (ie I don't know if it's relevant in Mandrake kernels). > > Blue skies... Todd acpi=off is all that works on my Mandrake (cooker) system http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/81_acpi.html acpi=off -- This parameter disables the whole ACPI system. This may prove very useful, for example, if your computer does not support ACPI or if you think the ACPI implementation might cause some problems. acpi=oldboot -- Deactivates the ACPI system almost completely: only the components required for the boot process will be used. pci=acpi -- This parameter activates the PCI IRQ routing of the new ACPI system. The old IRQ routing is the one normally used for compatibility reasons. acpi=force -- This parameter activates ACPI even when the computer's BIOS is prior to 2000. This parameter overwrites acpi=off. pci=noacpi -- This parameter disables the PCI IRQ routing of the new ACPI system. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we're talking search fundamentals!
Thank you - didn't know about this one. I will investigate those engines, in the hope for a Linux capable one. But talking about (re)search of Internet, and because you mentioned/quoted the paragraph below, then allow me to advise you to visit one very interesting site related to this subject: http://www.searchlores.org/ Click on the main icon/logo ... and welcome to Fravia's world ... On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:53 am, Michael Adams wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:58, stefmit wrote: > > Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to ask > > this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive results), but > > it is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is there an equivalent > > multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic is for Windows? > > > > TIA, > > Stef > > Peruse the definitive list, site by site looking for a linux version. > http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/utilities.html > or try the online equivalent. > http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/metacrawlers.html > > BTW http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ is a permanent bookmark of mine since > i heard this quote somewhere. > "The internet is like a library. But a library where someone has ripped the > covers off all the books and thrown them on the floor. You can either wade > in yourself and pick up each book looking for what you want, or use a > search engine that has already done this for you." > Sorry, not verbatim, recalled from memory. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cron & tar
Some things you might consider trying: 1. Sounds like an awful lot of data. Might consider compression with tar -cvzf [filename] [directory]. Omit the file extension if you do this. > tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2003.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2003 > --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data > --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . Seems to me like \ on the first line might be a problem. There doesn't seem to be a point to escapeing a space that does not occur in a filename. 2. Consider writeing your self a cron script that simply dumps the diretories into a file to ensure that they are all available. Colin Jenkins wrote: finally had to remove mdk9 and replace it with w2k today :( I have tried to get a backup happening for months now with little success. The script below works fine when run directly but when run as a cron task, it backs up some of the first directory (about 2 gb), then quits. no errors in the cron logs and the machine is ONLY used for backups. The task is set to run when the network is not in use. I have tried smbtar and every other way I could think of backing up, but it always seems to fail with cron. (all updates have been applied) Any ideas on what the problem might be? #!/bin/sh export USER=administrator%** smbmount //wallaby/users /mnt/temp tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2003.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2003 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2004.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2004 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2005.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2005 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2006.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2006 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2007.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2007 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/user2008.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/2008 --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . tar -cvf /mnt/windows/userstaff.tar \ --directory /mnt/temp/staff --exclude=User.dat --exclude=History --exclude=Application\ Data --exclude=*.dat --exclude=*.exe --exclude=*.tmp --exclude=Cookies . cd /mnt/windows tar -cvf /dev/st0 . smbumount /mnt/temp mt -f /dev/st0 offline Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Replying [was Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?]
Apparently some do and some don't. I get such responses from this list occasionally and if someone replies, getting something in my inbox rather than having it sorted into one of my many list directories can be helpful in finding it. I'm sorry you do not find it so. To my knowledge, this is the first time anyone has complained... at least to me. Sorry about that, Jim C. Jim, Can you stop using reply to all? We use a list to keep the discussions out of our regular mail... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bind socket
On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:56 am, David Whiting wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:27:43PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > It looks okay to me (i.e. no garbage characters, but it could be > > > > > misconfigured without me having a clue) > > > > > > NETWORKING=yes > > > FORWARD_IPV4=false > > > DHCP_HOSTNAME=ganymede > > > HOSTNAME=ganymede > > > DOMAINNAME=ammp.net > > > GATEWAY=192.168.57.1 > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that this has not changed for a long time though so I > > > do not think it should be related to my cups problem. > > > > Hmm - I don't have the dhcp line, so I can't comment on that, but I have > > the FQDN, so I would have expected HOSTNAME=ganymede.ammp.net? > > I tried this and it lead to a variety of problems with applications not > being able to find ganymede.ammp.net. For a long time I have some > 'little' networking problems (like not being able to ping ganymede from > ganymede) but things seemed to work so I figured I needed to find time > to understand more about netorking ... eventually ... but that it was > not a critical issue for me. > > Thanks. > > Dave Dave: Check your mail settings -- you have two "To" entries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], hence the double postings. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Norman wrote on Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:32:48PM + : Hi all, I have been asked if I can set up a Linux box to replace an NT server. What has been requested is that it be file server, mail server, print server and firewall and that external users should be able to access their mail and data. PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT MAKE THE FIREWALL SERVE A BUNCH OF SERVICES! Make a server that does file (samba), mail (smtp and imap over ssl), print (samba), and internal DNS. Make a second machine that does the firewall. From the inside, all clients access the samba/mail server directly. From the outside, you forward port 25 (smtp) and 993 (imaps) into the server. Doing it all on one machine is ASKING to lose all your important data. Blue skies... Todd - -- Don't worry, I had no intention of having the firewall on the same machine. :-) I guess I will be going with postfix as I will be using Mandrake anyway. Thanks to all of you for your thoughts, much appreciated. If they do ask me to do it I will put something on my website about how it all goes. -- Best wishes, Norm Linux for all ( except bsod's ) http://www.nelliott.co.uk registered Linux user 277766 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bind socket
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:51:52AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:35:19 + David Whiting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > [06/Mar/2003:07:17:05 +] StartListening: Unable to bind socket - > > Cannot assign requested address. > > > > So, something is stopping it from getting the address it wants. I also > > noticed that named wasn't happy either: > > see if anything else has port 631 with: lsof -i :631 No, nothing on 631. This was a new one for me, so I tried it with port 80 to see what the output should look like and got what appears to be sensible so it was working okay, there's nothing to report for port 631. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cups]# service named status > > rndc: connection to remote host closed > > This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of > > the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, > > or the key is invalid. > > Check that your /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.conf have the same secret > (key). If that's ok, you'll need to dig into your network setup... Aha! They are very obviously very different. I'll try to RTFM about how to fix this... but might need some help. Watch this space. Thanks. Dave -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we're talking search fundamentals!
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 12:37 pm, stefmit wrote: > Thank you - didn't know about this one. I will investigate those engines, > in the hope for a Linux capable one. > > But talking about (re)search of Internet, and because you mentioned/quoted > the paragraph below, then allow me to advise you to visit one very > interesting site related to this subject: > > http://www.searchlores.org/ > > Click on the main icon/logo ... and welcome to Fravia's world ... > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:53 am, Michael Adams wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:58, stefmit wrote: > > > Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to ask > > > this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive results), > > > but it is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is there an > > > equivalent multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic is for > > > Windows? > > > > > > TIA, > > > Stef > > > > Peruse the definitive list, site by site looking for a linux version. > > http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/utilities.html > > or try the online equivalent. > > http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/metacrawlers.html > > > > BTW http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ is a permanent bookmark of mine > > since i heard this quote somewhere. > > "The internet is like a library. But a library where someone has ripped > > the covers off all the books and thrown them on the floor. You can either > > wade in yourself and pick up each book looking for what you want, or use > > a search engine that has already done this for you." > > Sorry, not verbatim, recalled from memory. Side issue - when I first used the Internet you could ask a search engine for term_a AND (term_b OR term_c) Not term_d These days I can't find any way of excluding the thousands of refs that I know will come and be irrelevant. Any suggestions, anyone? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
Did you try : which lsof You might not have the executeable. Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:33 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: lsof -i :port# Hmm, I just tried that and I must be doing something wrong. I tried: lsof -i :28000 lsof -i :port28000 lsof -i :port#28000 lsof -i :port 28000 lsof -i :port# 28000 So...which one is correct? I got various different results and none looked um, correct... Thanks! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] postfix configuration ?
I installed postfix during the installation of my 8.2 mandrake os. The postfix version is 20020228, I think. I am trying to setup postfix using the "Postfix+Courier-IMAP+MySQL documentation but I'm getting the following error message: Mar 6 08:56:55 linuxserver postfix/qmgr[15746]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql Mar 6 08:57:00 linuxserver postfix/tlsmgr[15747]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql Mar 6 08:57:39 linuxserver postfix/smtpd[15810]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql Mar 6 08:57:45 linuxserver postfix/pickup[15812]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql I looked on google and found a couple of references to email archives for another distro that indicated that postfix was not compiled with the correct modules and thus generated this message. Can anyone tell me what modules are included in the standard mandrake compile of postfix or how to see what modules were included? I know in apache I can -l and get a list but that according to the man pages postfix doesn't support something similar. Thanks for a reply. Carter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 00:10, tarvid wrote: > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 22:08, Lorne wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 12:38 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > > > > > > PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT MAKE THE FIREWALL SERVE A BUNCH OF SERVICES! > > > > Try the converse on for size. ... I started to reply to Todd's message as well. Assuming a firewall -> hub -> servers scenario, it really makes no difference whatever where the smtpd is. Vulnerability is the same. But, Todd's reply is a quick and easy knee-jerk that is very common on Linux lists. Why? Because it makes the unwashed masses stop and think that this might be harder than they expected. In that sense, I'm fine letting it go by unchallenged. And heck, the OP may even buy a switch to put between firewall and servers, in which case the vulnerability is slightly lessened. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:09:44 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:33 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > lsof -i :port# > > Hmm, I just tried that and I must be doing something wrong. I tried: > > lsof -i :28000 > lsof -i :port28000 > lsof -i :port#28000 > lsof -i :port 28000 > lsof -i :port# 28000 > > So...which one is correct? I got various different results and none > looked um, correct... > > Thanks! :-) > Try a valid port (lsof -i :80) and note that you may not see ":80" but ":http"... this is not grep... HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Limiting Process List for users
Does anyone know how to enable one user to see another's process table? When i installed the box in question, i had originally chosen msec level4, which is now down to 3, however i do recall it asking a question about limiting process space. Basically i have a cron job which logs into the box, checks 'ps auwx' output, and always flags an error because it can't see the process it is looking for. I have added the user to the kmem group, thinking it was rights thing there, but to no avail. Its really hard to do a google search on 'ps limiting other user' or any combination that i can think of. First prize to the person, not who solves the problem, but who can come up with a google search term that finds me a solution! thanks in advance... -thorsten -- |---| |Thorsten-Sideb0ard-| |---Consolidated Independent| |---| Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Midi with SBlive
Hi List! I checked in google and got some documents about midi(/dev/sequencer) working with SBLive, but somes old and others a little bit generic. I wonder if among Mandrake users somone has SBLive Midi (using ALSA) configured and working, I mean, one can use 'playmidi test.mid' or kmid and gets sounds. I use MDK 9.0 and compiled Alsa rc 0.8a with --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-cards=emu10k1 options, based on: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=Creative+Labs&card=Soundblaster+Live+Value&chip=EMU10K1&module=emu10k1 Ok, kmidi can do the job but it's not the same. SB AWE always work with midi without restraints. Many thanks in advance. Cheers, -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Creative PC-CAM 750 USB
Hi all Please, How can I use a Creative PC-CAM 750 USB webcam under Linux? I can't find anything in Google. I am using LM 8.2, but I will upgrade to 9.1 when it will be out ;) Thank you in advance Best regards, -- Óscar Santacreu Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we'retalking search fundamentals!
stefmit wrote: Thank you - didn't know about this one. I will investigate those engines, in the hope for a Linux capable one. But talking about (re)search of Internet, and because you mentioned/quoted the paragraph below, then allow me to advise you to visit one very interesting site related to this subject: http://www.searchlores.org/ Click on the main icon/logo ... and welcome to Fravia's world ... On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:53 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:58, stefmit wrote: Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to ask this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive results), but it is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is there an equivalent multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic is for Windows? TIA, Stef I've had success in google by using the technique of typing the following switch in the google search box, (linux: proceeded with the search term). linux: This should search for items of linux nature. Larry Peruse the definitive list, site by site looking for a linux version. http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/utilities.html or try the online equivalent. http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/metacrawlers.html BTW http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ is a permanent bookmark of mine since i heard this quote somewhere. "The internet is like a library. But a library where someone has ripped the covers off all the books and thrown them on the floor. You can either wade in yourself and pick up each book looking for what you want, or use a search engine that has already done this for you." Sorry, not verbatim, recalled from memory. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Midi with SBlive
El Jue 06 Mar 2003 17:42, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva escribió sabiamente:
> Hi List!
>
> I checked in google and got some documents about midi(/dev/sequencer)
> working with SBLive, but somes old and others a little bit generic.
>
> I wonder if among Mandrake users somone has SBLive Midi (using
> ALSA) configured and working, I mean, one can use 'playmidi test.mid' or
> kmid and gets sounds.
>
> I use MDK 9.0 and compiled Alsa rc 0.8a with --with-sequencer=yes
> --with-oss=yes --with-cards=emu10k1 options, based on:
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=Creative
>+Labs&card=Soundblaster+Live+Value&chip=EMU10K1&module=emu10k1
>
> Ok, kmidi can do the job but it's not the same. SB AWE always work with
> midi without restraints.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
I am running LM 8.2, I have a SB Live. It works ok here with kernel version
2.4.18-6mdk
This is my /etc/modules.conf (related to sblive):
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
The services sound and alsa are loaded
("chkconfig --add sound", and "chkconfig --add alsa"
And you need the sfxload program and a SF2 SoundFont file.
I had a problem with sound level, and I had to put aumix -v66 and aumix -L at
the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local, plus the sfxload command.
Here you are the three last lines of my /etc/rc.d/rc.local file:
/usr/bin/aumix -v66
sfxload /etc/midi/GU11-ROM.SF2
/usr/bin/aumix -L
And if you want to use playmidi, you must add the "-a" modifier:
playmidi -a midifile.mid
Try it. good luck!
Best regards,
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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
This time Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: >> IMNSHO, if you don't understand IP,TCP, UDP, you have no business >> running a server of any kind, no matter what Microsoft may have told >> you. > > Gee, thanks for the flame. :-/ It's not a flame, it's a statement of *my opinion*, nothing else. > > Why not? We let people create human beings without training and there > is far more risk involved.;-) And I firmly believe that people shouldn't be allowed to have children without extensive psychological and genetical testing...no license, no kids > Truth is that my knowledge about IP, TCP/UDP is adequate although I > conceed the point that my experience in working directly with them > is noteably lacking - I still get my terminology wrong, forget to > mention things etc. I've installed a couple of firewalls, networks, > a beowulf cluster and a MOSIX cluster but I had other tools at my > disposal then. I am not a networking guru...hell, half the terminology I use is wrong (but I can blame that on the fact that english is not my native language :) but I do have plenty of empirical knowledge, acquired from all the people I've worked with during the last 15 years or so. I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 tarvid wrote on Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:10:08AM -0500 : > > > > > > PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT MAKE THE FIREWALL SERVE A BUNCH OF SERVICES! > Try the converse on for size. You're making it sound as if I said either/or. I didn't spell it out properly then. Do both. > Can I really get better security by permitting burning holes with persistent > http tunnels than by installing a transparenet proxy on the gateway? Like everything in Linux, it depends on the exploit. If the exploit is a remote root exploit that opens up a port 31337 such that if you ssh directly to it, you get root, then both ways work the same. If the exploit is a remote root exploit that leaves a shell running as root on port 25, then your screwed no matter what you do. The other guy has my intent correct: I'm not saying my way is the only way. I would be Todd Gates if that was the case. Instead, I'm saying I recommend this way because you should _think_ about putting a system together, no just throw it all together helter skelter. (insert cliche about eggs and a basket) Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z6MIlp7v05cW2woRAjnkAKDJWhfL6N0eEZdbZA1eKNT5/Dl1oQCgm0k6 TTN18zh2kzNtPIa858UGQYA= =RDfY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 10:40:42PM +1300, Michael Adams wrote:
> There was talk about updates being available for this product for three
> years. But at present i only see a one year support cycle.
Support as in phone support... this does not refer to updates support. The
EOL for each product is listed here:
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/productlifetime.php
> http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/corporate-server
> and
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg65843.html
> from which i quote
>
> From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:
>
> > I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
> > that as such had no obligations to be a server..
>
> Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a
> server OS. The support timeframe will likely be 3-4 years, possibly
> more. I'm not 100% sure on this yet (not my call).
>
>
>
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:35, Jim Hubbard wrote:
> > This thread is beginning to stray from the original point I was trying
> > to make, which is that Mandrake has an opportunity to pick up where
> > Redhat has left off. There are many folks out there that are looking
> > for the same benefits that running Redhat provided only a few months
> > ago, but now does not. All Mandrake needs to do is extend the EOL. I
> > only hope they're smart enough to see it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jim Hubbard
>
> --
> Michael
>
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Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 10:57:45PM +1300, Michael Adams wrote:
> Whups, i should finish reading the posts before replying. Sorry Vincent.
Apparently I suffer from the same symptoms. =) See my reply to your reply.
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:26, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Tue Mar 04, 2003 at 10:52:18PM -0500, Jim Hubbard wrote:
> > > I think that now is a really good time for Mandrake to reconsider their
>
> > > will happen I think in about a year when dead versions start piling up.
> >
> > Corporate Server 2.1 was just announced, and it has a 3 year life policy.
> > It's also cheaper than RHAS I believe. There is your choice. Supporting
> > 9.1 for 3 years isn't an option. Mandrake Linux 9.1 is a desktop OS and
> > while it works quite nicely on servers, that is not it's intended (read:
> > support from us) function.
> >
>
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[expert] net_monitor
I just had some strange behavior on my system. I noticed that net_monitor was not working. I went into /usr/sbin and sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor called net_monitor.real. I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real net_monitor and all is well. Anyone have this problem or know why it may have occurred? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] why sendmail updates are 8.12.6 instead 8.12.8 for MDK 9.0 ?
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 11:44:37AM +0200, maxxik wrote:
First.. fix your reply-to.
> i have a question : why sendmail updates for MDK 9.0 are
>
> sendmail-8.12.6 instead sendmail 8.12.8 ???
Because we patched 8.12.6. And when we were preparing the updates, we were
given patches, not the new version.
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Re: [expert] net_monitor
On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:42 pm, Brian wrote: > I just had some strange behavior on my system. > > I noticed that net_monitor was not working. I went into /usr/sbin and sure > enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called /usr/bin/consolehelper > and there was a working version of net_monitor called net_monitor.real. > > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real net_monitor > and all is well. Anyone have this problem or know why it may have > occurred? > > Brian run "chkrootkit"? yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] net_monitor
On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:51 pm, et wrote: > On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:42 pm, Brian wrote: > > I just had some strange behavior on my system. > > > > I noticed that net_monitor was not working. I went into /usr/sbin and > > sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called > > /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor > > called net_monitor.real. > > > > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real > > net_monitor and all is well. Anyone have this problem or know why it may > > have occurred? > > > > Brian > > run "chkrootkit"? yet? I did and I am clean. That's what is so suspicious about this. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Limiting Process List for users
On 06. mar 2003, 16:35, thorsten Sideb0ard wrote: > Does anyone know how to enable one user to see another's process table? > Basically i have a cron job which logs into the box, checks 'ps auwx' > output, and always flags an error because it can't see the process it is > looking for. > I have added the user to the kmem group, thinking it was rights thing > there, but to no avail. add your desired user into wheel and adm group. before this, check: $ ls -ld /proc dr-xr-x--- 149 root adm 0 dec 30 17:44 /proc/ $ ls -ld /proc/some_process dr-xr-x---3 ftp wheel 0 mar 6 21:31 /proc/8944/ easy ;) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mandrake 9.0. I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm -qa|grep lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer. I then just downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it. Nothing. It does the "preparing" thing but just stalls and never gets anywhere. I then tried running "rpm --rebuilddb" and via gkrellm I see CPU activity spike up to 100% for about 10 seconds or so but then it drops back to background and nothing comes of it (from the CLI). I do not get dumped back to the commandline and I have to do a Ctrl-C to get the command prompt back. What do I do to get rpm working again? What file do I delete (database, config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with an "rpm --rebuild"? This is on my Thinkpad laptop. praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z7KwaKr9sJYeTxgRAokEAKCeGNeNq0j3Du4+Mjcw2iT0kZUAAQCgjgx3 TB84SZyYoFMhBbAueSOxvWo= =0wgA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
On Thursday 06 March 2003 14:35, Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > tarvid wrote on Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:10:08AM -0500 : > > > > PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT MAKE THE FIREWALL SERVE A BUNCH OF SERVICES! > > > > Try the converse on for size. > > You're making it sound as if I said either/or. I didn't spell it out > properly then. Do both. > My apologies, I've been caught in the crossfire myself. For most users a $50 nat box off ebay is a better solution than a custom firewall. I don't know why the kiddies haven't been after these but I have yet to have a customer compromised behind one of them. The hazard is the new user who loads a distribution and checks everything. Msec sort of works but I've had to clean up aftter it too often. The real market for Linux solutions are businesses who need to control access both ways (in and out). Transparent proxy boxes are expensive and not all that easy to setup and use. I should have simply agreed and then pointed out it pays to tighten up any server. I build my servers by unchecking everything, letting Mandrake install urpmi and then loading exactly what is needed. Jim Tarvid Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 15:42, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mandrake 9.0. I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm -qa|grep > lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer. I then just > downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it. Nothing. It does the > "preparing" thing but just stalls and never gets anywhere. I then tried > running "rpm --rebuilddb" and via gkrellm I see CPU activity spike up to 100% > for about 10 seconds or so but then it drops back to background and nothing > comes of it (from the CLI). I do not get dumped back to the commandline and > I have to do a Ctrl-C to get the command prompt back. > > What do I do to get rpm working again? What file do I delete (database, > config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with an "rpm --rebuild"? > > This is on my Thinkpad laptop. Make sure that nothing else is trying to touch the rpm database. Search for all rpm instances in your `ps` listing then kill them. rebuilddb should then work properly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim C wrote on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 05:37:35PM -0800 : > > Well perhaps you are correct but if you are and it is simple, then why > am I not seeing netbios ports 137 and 138? If they weren't working I > wouldn't be writing this because my Samba-LDAP PDC wouldn't be functional. Because samba uses: tcp 137 udp 138 udp 139 Your command below tells it to list only tcp (that's what the "t" is for). Change it to "-ltun" and it will list both tcp and udp ports. Again, if you don't know the difference between tcp and udp, you are really missing a LOT about IP. Get a good book on TCP/IP and it will all start to make sense. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# netstat -ntl Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z762lp7v05cW2woRAjBgAJ4mFZrvrDi+Zajbg00PERcdjl3uUgCgq+h5 7/UWDPvAuSmdDgVnuW/L/oY= =HxWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we're talking search fundamentals!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wrote on Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:26:08PM + : > > Side issue - when I first used the Internet you could ask a search > engine for term_a AND (term_b OR term_c) Not term_d These days I can't > find any way of excluding the thousands of refs that I know will come > and be irrelevant. Any suggestions, anyone? Click on the advanced search link on google.com's homepage. Blue skies... Todd - -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ Favourite shell: bash, though I also like 'init=/usr/bin/emacs' --Andrew Tridgell Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z8Ablp7v05cW2woRAp5YAJ9cSmxNYtQlOrHzuSju6g8alS5qRgCfS8RW wmRpEsvisADLt3Gzb3ZuLm0= =DEKN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] samb file permission
Hi, Everytime users want to create a folder in the share, they get a prompt saying "They may not be able to access the folder". If they go ahead, they can still creat sub-folders, but cannot copy files to the folder. Would someone please give me some help? My config is as follows, [proj] comment = Project Documents path = /srv/proj read only = no create mask = 0660 directory mask = 0770 hide unreadable = yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] baseband]# getfacl general # file: general # owner: root # group: Domain Users user::rwx group::--- group:Proj Base Team:rwx group:Proj Base Man:rwx group:Proj Readers:r-x group:Bak Admins:rwx mask::rwx other::--- default:user::rwx default:group::--- default:group:Proj Base Team:rwx default:group:Bak Admins:rwx default:mask::rwx default:other::--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] general]# pwd /srv/proj/baseband/general **nmun cannot copy files into packaging** [EMAIL PROTECTED] general]# getfacl * # file: packaging # owner: nmun # group: Domain Users user::rwx group::rwx group:Proj Base Team:rwx group:Bak Admins:rwx mask::rwx other::--- default:user::rwx default:group::--- default:group:Proj Base Team:rwx default:group:Bak Admins:rwx default:mask::rwx default:other::--- Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we're talking search fundamentals!
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 9:39 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anne Wilson wrote on Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:26:08PM + : > > Side issue - when I first used the Internet you could ask a search > > engine for term_a AND (term_b OR term_c) Not term_d These days I can't > > find any way of excluding the thousands of refs that I know will come > > and be irrelevant. Any suggestions, anyone? > > Click on the advanced search link on google.com's homepage. > Ah - I tried the advanced tab on the side-panel, but that didn't seem to help much. I'll try it your way next time. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:12 am, Jim C wrote: > Did you try : > > which lsof > > You might not have the executeable. Thanks for the reply. Yep, I do have it. I just wasn't using it on a port that had anything. Port 28000 has nothing on it, so no report. Thats all. :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:58 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Try a valid port (lsof -i :80) and note that you may not see ":80" but > ":http"... this is not grep... > HTH Got it. I was using port 28000 'cause it popped into my head (Tribes 2 uses it!). When I used a valid port, it worked fine. (for example, 631). Thanks for the reply! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
Todd Lyons wrote: The other guy has my intent correct: I'm not saying my way is the only way. I would be Todd Gates if that was the case. Instead, I'm saying I recommend this way because you should _think_ about putting a system together, no just throw it all together helter skelter. (insert cliche about eggs and a basket) Blue skies... Todd - -- Hell, Todd, I thought "Gates" was your name. I guess it would be to no avail to ask for that million dollar loan I needed, eh? drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.html Character is built upon the debris of despair --Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!?
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 05:58 pm, stefmit wrote: > Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to > ask this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive > results), but it is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is > there an equivalent multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic > is for Windows? Google is about all I use now, but I used to use copernic, and I liked it as it saved my searches. But now that I run linux, I really like the way Konqueror handles searches using its "Web Shortcuts". And I see that it also handles Metacrawler and Hotbot which just went to multiple engine searching. The great thing about shortcuts is that they are saved after the search so they can be reused like copernic, but its all in the same interface, not a new interface. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Mar 05, 2003 at 12:29:42PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: I think part of Redhats motivation was the far too numerious requests for requests like: When will redhat make rpms for kde3.1 for Redhat 7.3? And such. Truth is, they won't. But people don't seem to get the picture. So they had to put an eol on there. I know, there are plentyof other reasons, but that's one of them. Wow... Red Hat has the same problem we have. I recall seeing something like this on this very list not too long ago... And moreif you have ever tried to compile a kernel on 8.0 grin I have built kernels on 8.0... what's the problem with building kernels on 8.0? Ditto: I have an 8.0 box on my desk at work. I've not had any problems building kernels on it. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote: > I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer > users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's > start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them > to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering! http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml ;) (Bit of an old link, but I just tripped over it the other day - and a quite hilarious site overall, pity the author no longer updates it.) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] samb file permission
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:52, Norman Zhang wrote: > Everytime users want to create a folder in the share, they get a prompt > saying "They may not be able to access the folder". If they go ahead, they > can still creat sub-folders, but cannot copy files to the folder. Would > someone please give me some help? My config is as follows, > > [proj] > comment = Project Documents > path = /srv/proj > read only = no > create mask = 0660 > directory mask = 0770 > hide unreadable = yes What does `ls -l /srv/proj` look like? -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?
On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > Mandrake 9.0. I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm > -qa|grep lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer. I > then just downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it. Nothing. > It does the "preparing" thing but just stalls and never gets anywhere. > I then tried running "rpm --rebuilddb" and via gkrellm I see CPU > activity spike up to 100% for about 10 seconds or so but then it drops > back to background and nothing comes of it (from the CLI). I do not > get dumped back to the commandline and I have to do a Ctrl-C to get the > command prompt back. > > What do I do to get rpm working again? What file do I delete > (database, config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with an "rpm > --rebuild"? I have had this happen to me several times with 9.0. Oddly still the snag seems to be for the root user only. If I run rpm -qa as a user, all goes well. If I run rpm -qa as root, it will hang. Running rpm --rebuilddb -vvv as root will hang on the same rpm that the qa did also. I have tried rebooting to run level 1 (single user) and rpm -qa ro rpm --rebuilddb still hangs. The following procedure has worked for me boot wih the rescue cd mount all partitions under /mnt then try running rpm with these options rpm --rebuilddb -vvv --root=/mnt and all should be OK. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] samb file permission
Hi, Sorry. My mistake. Users were trying to move files that they don't have permission into the folders. Copying files or creating files does work. But they still get the prompt saying "You might not be able to access the files you created. Do you want to continue?" Is there a fix for this? I added force create mode = 0660 force directory mode = 0770 but problem still persists. drwxrws---5 root Domain Users 55 Dec 21 19:02 approval/ drwxrws---5 root Domain Users 55 Dec 21 19:02 baseband/ drwxrws---4 root Domain Users 43 Dec 21 19:02 DECT/ drwxrws---3 root Domain Users 22 Jan 5 17:44 id/ drwxrws---6 root Domain Users 63 Dec 21 19:02 market/ drwxrws--- 13 root Domain Users 4096 Dec 21 17:28 mis/ drwxrws---3 root Domain Users 56 Dec 21 19:03 prodev/ drwxrws---6 root Domain Users 59 Jan 5 17:54 quality/ drwxrws---6 root Domain Users 73 Jan 5 17:15 rf/ drwxrws---6 root Domain Users 53 Jan 5 17:24 software/ drwxrws---4 root Domain Users 35 Dec 21 17:20 support/ Regards, Norman - Original Message - From: "Bill Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [expert] samb file permission On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:52, Norman Zhang wrote: > Everytime users want to create a folder in the share, they get a prompt > saying "They may not be able to access the folder". If they go ahead, they > can still creat sub-folders, but cannot copy files to the folder. Would > someone please give me some help? My config is as follows, > > [proj] > comment = Project Documents > path = /srv/proj > read only = no > create mask = 0660 > directory mask = 0770 > hide unreadable = yes What does `ls -l /srv/proj` look like? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
This time Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote: > >> I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer >> users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's >> start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them >> to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) > > There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering! > > http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml Now...THAT I'd vote for! :) If it weren't cause the 4 years I spent at tech support cured me of my niceness, I'd even try to put one up ;) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 20:52, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote: > > > I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer > > users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's > > start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them > > to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) > > There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering! > > http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml Excellent -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 14:26, Vincent Danen wrote: > Corporate Server 2.1 was just announced, and it has a 3 year life policy. > It's also cheaper than RHAS I believe. There is your choice. Supporting > 9.1 for 3 years isn't an option. Mandrake Linux 9.1 is a desktop OS and > while it works quite nicely on servers, that is not it's intended (read: > support from us) function. > > That being said, someone using 9.0 can use the updates from Corporate Server > with a minimum of fuss because Corporate Server is based on 2.1. Yes, not > everything will be updated due to the differences in packages (ie. no > updates for gaim, etc.) but the basic stuff for servers will be. > > In essence, 9.0 has just received an unofficial lifetime of 3 years. Next > year, when the next Corporate Server comes out (IIRC likely based on 10.0), > users using 10.0 will get unofficial updates for 3 years (and by unofficial > I mean these updates will be for Corporate Server, which will likely be > based upon 10.0). This is tremendous news, and certainly allays any concerns I might have about the matter, as it in essence provides exactly what I had been advocating (security updates to the basic server apps beyond the EOL of the entire desktop release). And let me clarify that nothing I said was meant to minimize or take for granted the hard (and good) work that you and the MandrakeSecure team do day in and day out to make and keep MDK such a superb and solid platform; my desire was only to help build the user and revenue base for the company with as little impact on the already stressed resources as possible - there's nothing I'd like to see more than that you and your team get some (job) security yourselves! Um, just one concern left - after 9.1 EOL's, will one merely be able to re-point one's urpmi sources to a 2.1 mirror and expect things to pick right up where they left off, insofar as the smaller selection of apps (only ones that had been included in CS2.1, naturally) is concerned? That would be sweet, and if the word could be gotten out on all this to the RH admins of whom Jim spoke, you'd think that they would get right on board. As it's not an "official" feature, really, I could see that spreading the word would probably need to be done informally. :( I also completely agree that a "no support" version of 2.1 is a /very/ good idea, and could attract a lot of this "dissatisfied RH users" market as well (and their all-important revenue). I can understand any trepidation that such an offering might cut into the sales of the (presumably more profitable) supported versions, but I would counter that there is probably less overlap between those that are likely to purchase it with support and without than one might expect, as they are really IMHO different kinds of customers. But it could well bring in a few more badly-needed Euros ... ;) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
On this topic, does anybody know of any project that aims to be a drop-in replacement for exchange? I run an all Linux IT shop EXCEXT for Exchange because our sales people are literally attached to the hip with Blackberries. If there is a project out there that looks to do exchange to the letter (ldap, mapi, pop, imap, yada yada . .) That will get people's attention. Especially mine. -Dave On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 09:32, Norman wrote: > Hi all, > I have been asked if I can set up a Linux box to replace an NT server. > What has been requested is that it be file server, mail server, print server and > firewall > and that external users should be able to access their mail and data. > > I think that as the PC's ( 10 ) are running win95 and win98 I can use Samba without > problems and that the printer, which is a nearly new Samsung, Linux compatible > Laserjet > can be accessed under cups. > I have recommended that they use a separate PC for the firewall and am thinking of > using > smoothwall. I do not know whether the free version would be ok or whether I should > get the > commercial version. > What I am puzzled about is the mail server. I have not used one myself and do not > know if > any of them, qmail, sendmail etc can talk to outlook or messenger.I have not seen > the > setup they have so am relying on the guy having given me the correct information at > this > stage. They would be happy for me to set up a new PC to do this job and I am keen to > have > a go. As far as I know this will be the first one in my area and want to encourage > the use > of Linux. > Any ideas? > tia -- Dave Seff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
See the latest Linux Journal. Also look for Bynari. I'd prepare for a big big challenge though, none of it looks prime time yet. On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:13, Dave Seff wrote: > On this topic, does anybody know of any project that aims to be a > drop-in replacement for exchange? I run an all Linux IT shop EXCEXT for > Exchange because our sales people are literally attached to the hip with > Blackberries. If there is a project out there that looks to do exchange > to the letter (ldap, mapi, pop, imap, yada yada . .) That will get > people's attention. Especially mine. > > -Dave > > > On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 09:32, Norman wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have been asked if I can set up a Linux box to replace an NT server. > > What has been requested is that it be file server, mail server, print server and > > firewall > > and that external users should be able to access their mail and data. > > > > I think that as the PC's ( 10 ) are running win95 and win98 I can use Samba > > without > > problems and that the printer, which is a nearly new Samsung, Linux compatible > > Laserjet > > can be accessed under cups. > > I have recommended that they use a separate PC for the firewall and am thinking of > > using > > smoothwall. I do not know whether the free version would be ok or whether I should > > get the > > commercial version. > > What I am puzzled about is the mail server. I have not used one myself and do not > > know if > > any of them, qmail, sendmail etc can talk to outlook or messenger.I have not seen > > the > > setup they have so am relying on the guy having given me the correct information > > at this > > stage. They would be happy for me to set up a new PC to do this job and I am keen > > to have > > a go. As far as I know this will be the first one in my area and want to encourage > > the use > > of Linux. > > Any ideas? > > tia -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT - Not ready while 123 runs
Today, I tried to install Netscape 7 in a XP-SP1 box. After answering the Accept/Agree ubiquitous questions in today's installation programs, the setup program crashed. I tried a couple of times more with the same outcome. Curiosity made me boot XP-SP1 in my laptop to install Netscape. The setup program crashed again. Well, maybe the setup program is corrupted, so let's download it again. Humm. Let me try in another XP box without SP1. Perfect. No fuss, no crash. Then I decided to download the new Netscape version 7.02 (released after SP1) and install it in the two reluctant XP-SP1 boxes. No problem whatsoever. Is Redmont condemning Winsucks users to repeat the history? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bind socket
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:51:52AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cups]# service named status > > rndc: connection to remote host closed > > This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of > > the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, > > or the key is invalid. > > Check that your /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.conf have the same secret > (key). If that's ok, you'll need to dig into your network setup... YES! I copied the key from rndc.conf to named.conf and now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]# service named status number of zones: 3 debug level: 0 xfers running: 0 xfers deferred: 0 soa queries in progress: 0 query logging is OFF server is up and running I still don't have cupsd running but it is nice to have this sorted. Thanks! Dave -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Any CVS wizards out there?
All, Ok having a problem with CVS permissions on our CVS server. Seems that when people check stuff in it's setting the ownership as that user... Then no one else can check it out. I've put each user into the group cvs and cvs into each user group. But still this occurs. They are using pserver checkout both directly and over ssh tunnel (we've tried it both ways to see if makes a difference.) I'd like to avoid having just one cvs user as then I wouldn't know who checked out what when. Any suggestions/criticisms here? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 09:39:07PM -0500, Bill Mullen wrote:
> > Corporate Server 2.1 was just announced, and it has a 3 year life policy.
> > It's also cheaper than RHAS I believe. There is your choice. Supporting
> > 9.1 for 3 years isn't an option. Mandrake Linux 9.1 is a desktop OS and
> > while it works quite nicely on servers, that is not it's intended (read:
> > support from us) function.
> >
> > That being said, someone using 9.0 can use the updates from Corporate Server
> > with a minimum of fuss because Corporate Server is based on 2.1. Yes, not
> > everything will be updated due to the differences in packages (ie. no
> > updates for gaim, etc.) but the basic stuff for servers will be.
> >
> > In essence, 9.0 has just received an unofficial lifetime of 3 years. Next
> > year, when the next Corporate Server comes out (IIRC likely based on 10.0),
> > users using 10.0 will get unofficial updates for 3 years (and by unofficial
> > I mean these updates will be for Corporate Server, which will likely be
> > based upon 10.0).
>
> This is tremendous news, and certainly allays any concerns I might have
> about the matter, as it in essence provides exactly what I had been
> advocating (security updates to the basic server apps beyond the EOL of
> the entire desktop release). And let me clarify that nothing I said was
> meant to minimize or take for granted the hard (and good) work that you
> and the MandrakeSecure team do day in and day out to make and keep MDK
> such a superb and solid platform; my desire was only to help build the
> user and revenue base for the company with as little impact on the
> already stressed resources as possible - there's nothing I'd like to see
> more than that you and your team get some (job) security yourselves!
Keep in mind that this is only for Corporate Server, which is released every
12-18mos (I don't think the timeframe has been set yet). So this may happen
with only the .0 releases (ie. 2.1 is based on 9.0, 3.1 may be based on
10.0, etc.). This won't happen for every ML release.
> Um, just one concern left - after 9.1 EOL's, will one merely be able to
> re-point one's urpmi sources to a 2.1 mirror and expect things to pick
> right up where they left off, insofar as the smaller selection of apps
> (only ones that had been included in CS2.1, naturally) is concerned?
After 9.0 is EOL, you can use a urpmi.removemedia to remove the 9.0 updates
and use urpmi.addmedia to add the corporate/2.1 directory. It should be
fairly seamless, but I can't guarantee that as there may be
bugfix/enhancements in CS2.1 that won't appear in 9.0. They are, after all,
two separate products.
> That would be sweet, and if the word could be gotten out on all this to
> the RH admins of whom Jim spoke, you'd think that they would get right
> on board. As it's not an "official" feature, really, I could see that
> spreading the word would probably need to be done informally. :(
You're right. It would have to be done informally... obviously us
advertising this could cut into CS2.1 revenues. Why would you buy CS2.1 if
you knew you could use 9.0 in a somewhat diminished support capacity for
three years? The only reason I mention it is because some brighter minds
will think of it soon enough... =)
But again, it is in no way supported, nor will we be thinking "how will this
impact 9.0" when we do upgrades/updates to CS2.1. If something happens to
break how 9.0 works, well, it's not an official route to take, and one I
wouldn't recommend to anyone who can't figure that kind of stuff out on
their own.
> I also completely agree that a "no support" version of 2.1 is a /very/
> good idea, and could attract a lot of this "dissatisfied RH users"
> market as well (and their all-important revenue). I can understand any
> trepidation that such an offering might cut into the sales of the
> (presumably more profitable) supported versions, but I would counter
> that there is probably less overlap between those that are likely to
> purchase it with support and without than one might expect, as they are
> really IMHO different kinds of customers. But it could well bring in a
> few more badly-needed Euros ... ;)
I'm quite serious when I say if you feel strongly about this (aka you want
to buy it for yourself/your company for a support-less reasonable cost),
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let "us" know. The powers that be don't
read this list I'm sure.
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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 09:45, Vox wrote: > This time Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > becomes daring and writes: > > >> IMNSHO, if you don't understand IP,TCP, UDP, you have no business > >> running a server of any kind, no matter what Microsoft may have told > >> you. > > > > Gee, thanks for the flame. :-/ > > It's not a flame, it's a statement of *my opinion*, nothing else. > > > > > Why not? We let people create human beings without training and there > > is far more risk involved.;-) > > And I firmly believe that people shouldn't be allowed to have > children without extensive psychological and genetical testing...no > license, no kids > > > Truth is that my knowledge about IP, TCP/UDP is adequate although I > > conceed the point that my experience in working directly with them > > is noteably lacking - I still get my terminology wrong, forget to > > mention things etc. I've installed a couple of firewalls, networks, > > a beowulf cluster and a MOSIX cluster but I had other tools at my > > disposal then. > > I am not a networking guru...hell, half the terminology I use is > wrong (but I can blame that on the fact that english is not my > native language :) but I do have plenty of empirical knowledge, > acquired from all the people I've worked with during the last 15 > years or so. I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer > users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's > start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them > to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) Of course the obvious question would be who do you want to exclude and how do you want the results of the test skewed... I can write a test to exclude any individual or group you'd like. James > > Vox Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 23:50, James Sparenberg wrote: > All, > >Ok having a problem with CVS permissions on our CVS server. Seems > that when people check stuff in it's setting the ownership as that > user... Then no one else can check it out. I've put each user into the > group cvs and cvs into each user group. But still this occurs. They > are using pserver checkout both directly and over ssh tunnel (we've > tried it both ways to see if makes a difference.) I'd like to avoid > having just one cvs user as then I wouldn't know who checked out what > when. > >Any suggestions/criticisms here? There's a flag called PreservePermissions in the CVS configuration file that should *not* be set. Try looking for this file. Also, check that the cvs binary is not setuid. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bindsocket
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:03, David Whiting wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:51:52AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:35:19 + David Whiting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > [06/Mar/2003:07:17:05 +] StartListening: Unable to bind socket - > > > Cannot assign requested address. > > > > > > So, something is stopping it from getting the address it wants. I also > > > noticed that named wasn't happy either: > > > > see if anything else has port 631 with: lsof -i :631 > > No, nothing on 631. This was a new one for me, so I tried it with port > 80 to see what the output should look like and got what appears to be > sensible so it was working okay, there's nothing to report for port 631. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cups]# service named status > > > rndc: connection to remote host closed > > > This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of > > > the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, > > > or the key is invalid. > > > > Check that your /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.conf have the same secret > > (key). If that's ok, you'll need to dig into your network setup... > > Aha! They are very obviously very different. I'll try to RTFM about how > to fix this... but might need some help. Watch this space. > Been watching that space for a couple of hours now... nothing's happened can I go on to another e-mail? *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] net_monitor
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:12, Brian wrote: > On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:51 pm, et wrote: > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:42 pm, Brian wrote: > > > I just had some strange behavior on my system. > > > > > > I noticed that net_monitor was not working. I went into /usr/sbin and > > > sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called > > > /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor > > > called net_monitor.real. > > > > > > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real > > > net_monitor and all is well. Anyone have this problem or know why it may > > > have occurred? > > > > > > Brian > > > > run "chkrootkit"? yet? > > I did and I am clean. That's what is so suspicious about this. > > Brian > > Not an expert on this one here... but if you run man console-helper you'll see that this is another one of those programs in front of a program designed to run the program behind it programs... (is this confusing enough?) Kind of like etc/alternatives where a called program links to a link that links back to the program in question I'm not down mouthing any of this... just amazed at the ability of things to get so complicated that points of failure go through the roof. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
This time James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 09:45, Vox wrote: >> This time Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> becomes daring and writes: >> >> >> IMNSHO, if you don't understand IP,TCP, UDP, you have no business >> >> running a server of any kind, no matter what Microsoft may have told >> >> you. >> > >> > Gee, thanks for the flame. :-/ >> >> It's not a flame, it's a statement of *my opinion*, nothing else. >> >> > >> > Why not? We let people create human beings without training and there >> > is far more risk involved.;-) >> >> And I firmly believe that people shouldn't be allowed to have >> children without extensive psychological and genetical testing...no >> license, no kids >> >> > Truth is that my knowledge about IP, TCP/UDP is adequate although I >> > conceed the point that my experience in working directly with them >> > is noteably lacking - I still get my terminology wrong, forget to >> > mention things etc. I've installed a couple of firewalls, networks, >> > a beowulf cluster and a MOSIX cluster but I had other tools at my >> > disposal then. >> >> I am not a networking guru...hell, half the terminology I use is >> wrong (but I can blame that on the fact that english is not my >> native language :) but I do have plenty of empirical knowledge, >> acquired from all the people I've worked with during the last 15 >> years or so. I don't advocate for a MSCE-like test for computer >> users...theoretical tests don't mean a thing, IMNSHO...but let's >> start giving out practical tests to everybody before allowing them >> to use a computer unsupervised...that'd be paradise :) > > > Of course the obvious question would be who do you want to exclude and > how do you want the results of the test skewed... I can write a test to > exclude any individual or group you'd like. Uhm...any human being who asks a question before reading the documentation? that'd make the IRC channel I hang out a lot more civil :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 14:26, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Todd Lyons wrote: > > > > The other guy has my intent correct: I'm not saying my way is the only > > way. I would be Todd Gates if that was the case. Instead, I'm saying I > > recommend this way because you should _think_ about putting a system > > together, no just throw it all together helter skelter. (insert cliche > > about eggs and a basket) > > > > Blue skies... Todd > > - -- > > Hell, Todd, I thought "Gates" was your name. I guess it would be to no > avail to ask for that million dollar loan I needed, eh? > > drjung drjung, I knew he wasn't a Gates as soon as he said something that indicated he could program in something other than Basic. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 21:25, Kwan Lowe wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 23:50, James Sparenberg wrote: > > All, > > > >Ok having a problem with CVS permissions on our CVS server. Seems > > that when people check stuff in it's setting the ownership as that > > user... Then no one else can check it out. I've put each user into the > > group cvs and cvs into each user group. But still this occurs. They > > are using pserver checkout both directly and over ssh tunnel (we've > > tried it both ways to see if makes a difference.) I'd like to avoid > > having just one cvs user as then I wouldn't know who checked out what > > when. > > > >Any suggestions/criticisms here? > There's a flag called PreservePermissions in the CVS configuration file > that should *not* be set. Try looking for this file. Also, check that > the cvs binary is not setuid. Kwan, Thanks loads I bet this is it... I'll check it now and see what happens. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G'evenin' all... On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:42 pm, Vox wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: > > Of course the obvious question would be who do you want to exclude and > > how do you want the results of the test skewed... I can write a test to > > exclude any individual or group you'd like. > > Uhm...any human being who asks a question before reading the > documentation? that'd make the IRC channel I hang out a lot more > civil :) Will you guys quit it! I'm trying to get some work done here, and I have to dash over every half hour for the next comeback. 8-) Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 03/05/2003 Usenet News server: news.kharma.net Musicians Calendar and Database access: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html An automatic & random thought For the Minute: Don't get mad, get even. -- Joseph P. Kennedy Don't get even, get jewelry. -- Anonymous -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE+aDPdaE1ENZP1A28RAtQ8AJ9XSKgdr/nRMPCs9QYFvVEf/dpwFACXRVnF Oh/4m1lMSx/AsVgyiik56g== =54kM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cron & tar
I notice that you're not using compression. I seem to recall having seen a thread on the local LUG list about tar silently croaking in exactly this fashion when the output file reaches 2GB in size; I'll have a look at the archives and see if I can track down more detailed info for you, as there may have been a workaround mentioned (but maybe not, also). -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams Thanks for the feedback Bill, I chose not to use compression as it is a lot easer to restore individual files from a straight copy. I did break up the copy into smaller parts, but can't see how the problem can be with tar, as it runs ok from the shell, but fails only from cron. :( -- "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cron & tar
At 07:06 AM 6/03/2003 -0800, you wrote: 1. Sounds like an awful lot of data. Might consider compression with tar -cvzf [filename] [directory]. Omit the file extension if you do this. have plenty of drive space, and without compression, it's a lot easier to restore individual files. 2. Consider writeing your self a cron script that simply dumps the diretories into a file to ensure that they are all available. not sure what you mean, this is just a script to mount a windows share and copy the files to a driver on the linux box. I only use the tape backup as a last resort. This script work without any errors when run from the command line (only fails when run as a cron task) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- A Thaum is the basic unit of magical strength. It has been universally established as the amount of magic needed to create one small white pigeon or three normal sized billiard balls. - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
What is the file name for the firewall? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norman Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Norman wrote on Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:32:48PM + : > >>Hi all, >>I have been asked if I can set up a Linux box to replace an NT server. >>What has been requested is that it be file server, mail server, print >>server and firewall and that external users should be able to access their >>mail and data. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bind socket
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:17:02AM -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Dave: > Check your mail settings -- you have two "To" entries: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], hence the double > postings. > -- cmg > Oh, sorry! I only see one so didn't know this was happening...still learning. I'll fix it now. Thanks. Dave -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fixed it - thanks folks. Was: 8.2 -> 9.0, msec ran and now cups unable to bind socket
Solved it. I'm afraid I am still not sure what was really wrong, but in the end I decided to use rpm to remove cups and then urpmi to reinstall and cupsd runs and binds and cups works again. Thanks to all for your help. Dave On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:57:45PM +, David Whiting wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:51:52AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cups]# service named status > > > rndc: connection to remote host closed > > > This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of > > > the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, > > > or the key is invalid. > > > > Check that your /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.conf have the same secret > > (key). If that's ok, you'll need to dig into your network setup... > > YES! I copied the key from rndc.conf to named.conf and now: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]# service named status > number of zones: 3 > debug level: 0 > xfers running: 0 > xfers deferred: 0 > soa queries in progress: 0 > query logging is OFF > server is up and running > > > I still don't have cupsd running but it is nice to have this sorted. > Thanks! > > Dave > > -- > Dave Whiting > Dar es Salaam, Tanzania > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT - Not ready while 123 runs
And just what does any of this have to do with MDK? I don't particularly care what will, or will not install on XP. This isn't the place for it. Ric On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:53:05PM -0400, Adolfo Bello wrote: > Today, I tried to install Netscape 7 in a XP-SP1 box. After answering > the Accept/Agree ubiquitous questions in today's installation programs, > the setup program crashed. I tried a couple of times more with the same > outcome. > > Curiosity made me boot XP-SP1 in my laptop to install Netscape. The > setup program crashed again. > > Well, maybe the setup program is corrupted, so let's download it again. > Humm. Let me try in another XP box without SP1. Perfect. No fuss, no > crash. > > Then I decided to download the new Netscape version 7.02 (released after > SP1) and install it in the two reluctant XP-SP1 boxes. No problem > whatsoever. > > Is Redmont condemning Winsucks users to repeat the history? > > -- > __ >/ \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 > / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 > /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 > www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
