[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > > > > > on 8/17/06 11:32 PM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > There is a time and a place for everything. Having been > on > > a > > > number > > > > >> > of job interviews, I have not been completely open > hearted > > and > > > > >> > trusting if I wanted the job. Same thing with S. Ma, who > > > should've > > > > >> > just acted in such a way to be able to do her program in > > the > > > dome. > > > > >> > Act in context. > > > > > > > > > So you¹re saying that the ³context² of the TMO is that you > have > > to > > > lie to > > > > participate in it, and that she should have abandoned her > > > principles to get > > > > what she wanted. > > > > > > > Not really- I am saying that she should act as she feels is > right > > > for her, and live with the consequences, whatever they might be. > > > After all it is she who created the reality that she was denied > > > access to the domes. Why blame others? > > > > I just do not understand these things. If it is so important to > > raise the number in the Dome - saying that everybody should come. > > Why are they standing at the door and separate people - you are > pure > > and you are impure? Ethical, I would say that if people lie to > > participate in the Dome - they are not pure - not that they have > > seen some other Gurus here and there. I know some really TBs that > > have been running to other Gurus in secret - and is very judging > > against other TM-Teachers - Sidhas that has done the same thing > > openly. It is just a double-moral amongst the TBs. > > I also know TBs that is screaming very high about MMY and what he > > does for world peace - and have not participated in WPA's for > years - > > not even now. If they really mean what they say - they should > take > > the first flight to Fairfield - . > > > You mean like Spare Egg who doesn't even meditate regularly? I do not really care - I would not be let in even that I have not seen other Gurus, but because I am an Independent TM-Teacher. I am just fed up by the TBs that seems to be so devoted to MMY, and so critical to everybody else. I think they should run when MMY asked them to run - in that case to Fairfield. As far as I understand this course is for saving the world, not only America. or do they not believe in MMY? Ingegerd > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hernia and brahmacarya
Recently noticed have got a small (abdominal?) hernia. Oddly enough, it seems to help me stay uurdhvaretaH! :0 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I found this rather interesting, the Kaplans & $
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/18/06 4:14 AM, hugheshugo at richardhughes103@ wrote: > > > > > > I personally think Kaplan shoots himself in the foot with his > talk of > > > enlightened children (how does he know?)and psychics (surely the > > > biggest frauds out there!) If he's that credulous perhaps it's no > > > wonder he handed over so much of his hard-earned without asking > where > > > it was going. > > > > > Earl told me that letter was leaked prematurely. He would have > cleaned it up > > a lot before releasing it intentionally. > > > I wonder how that happens. > > If a writer is working on a text and he is going through drafts, it > usually doesn't go past his own computer. > > That is, unless he was having a friend or colleague or employee take > a look at it for opinions and feedback. Unless Kaplan was > circulating the letter widely for feedback (and then it leaves it to > an Act of God whether it goes public at that point), then it would > have stayed within a controlled, close circle. > > And if it was leaked prematurely and it was me who it happened to, > then the shit would fly. I would find out who did it and either > fire their ass or find a new friend. > It sounds like a damage limitation exercise to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'D.C. Theater Production Merges Shakespeare, Maharishi & The Beatles'
Theatre Love's Labours Lost The Swan, Stratford-upon-Avon Michael BillingtonSaturday August 19, 2006The Guardian Stratford's Complete Works season continues to throw up surprises. Washington DC's Shakespeare Theatre Company bring us a Love's Labours Lost that, although full of sprightly invention, is based on an entirely spurious premise: that there is a parallel between Shakespeare's world-fleeing lovers and the pop groups, headed by the Beatles, who flocked to the Maharishi's Ganges ashram in the late 1960s. Michael Kahn's concept doesn't hold water for two minutes. The King of Navarre, Berowne and the rest, by their three-year period of academic seclusion, are consciously seeking fame: the fugitive pop groups who went east were, if anything, escaping its consequences. Shakespeare's play satirises and exploits high-flying conceits and affected verbal pedantry: hardly qualities for which the leading entertainers of the 1960s were renowned. And, although Kahn translates the Princess and her followers into chic tourists and Costard into a hairy hippie, the strain eventually tells. One particular scene exposes the flaw in Kahn's idea: the famous one in which Berowne eavesdrops on the lovers' successive abandonment of their vows. The separateness of the lovers hiding in different trees, on which the joke depends, is here ruined by the fact that they start to chummily harmonise together on drums and guitar. Yet, for all its silliness, I couldn't dislike Kahn's production, largely because it is so energetic. Heavens knows what a schoolmaster is doing in the middle of an ashram, but Ted van Griethuysen, in the performance of the evening, turns the pedagogic Holofernes into a wonderfully overweening mix of WC Fields and American academic Harold Bloom. He even enters, at one point, bearing a placard describing himself as the author of Shakespeare and Me. The Princess and her train - who arrive on Vespas, go hunting in pith helmets and shorts, and later sport 1960s micro-skirts - are a fetching bunch, brightly led by Claire Lautier, with Angela Pierce as her bosom pal. Amir Arison's guru-like King, Hank Stratton's buoyant Berowne (oddly pronounced "Beroon") and Michael Milligan's joint-rolling Costard (chanting "We gotta fights the fascists, man") display abundant energy. As a reinvention of a Shakespeare comedy, it doesn't begin to compare with the Indian Midsummer Night's Dream earlier this year. But, even if its changes are largely cosmetic, they are at least applied with spirit. · Until August 26. Box office: 0870 609 1110. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Local Foundation to Contract with TMO for Services
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This petition is a call for a pledge to support, via volunteer > > and/or > > > financial resources, the creation of a private foundation to: > > > > > > i) monitor and objectively evaluate research on the Maharishi > > Effect > > > (ME) and other peace-creating consciousness field effects, and > > > > > > ii) to publicize, monitor, provide scholarships for, recruit blocks > > of > > > volunteers, and negotiate fair conditions for such, with > > established, > > > new or to-be-established Peace Field Effect organizations, such as > > the > > > TMO, and, > > > > > > iii) provide or create flexible use agreements within existing > > > facilities, or establish new facilities, with appropriate and > > > universal-focused use guidelines, for peace field effects groups and > > > projects, such as the ME, in the US and throughout the world and, > > > > > > iv) explore parallel efforts and effects to produce substantial > > > violence reduction and peace-creating field effects through > > > purification of collective consciousness provided by other > > > consciousness, yogic, tantric, traditional cultures and spiritual > > > group service providers. > > > > > > Hehe, Vaj is gone, William is gone, now this fellow appears out of > > the blue. > > Hardly out of the blue. I have been posting for some time. > > This fellow is more clever than the two mentioned, > > faint prise, haha :) > > > but the > > agenda > > I asssume you are implying some secret "agenda", not the one > publically expoused -- in this case -- a grass roots effort, to > provide a vehicle for the "disenfranchised", service-focussed and > spiritual beings in FF, TMO and other groups to pull together to > provide a balanced and healing force for soothing TMO excesses and > harshness -- and provide a way for all to participate, celebrate and > serve in providing a group conciousness field effect for world peace. > > You seem to see secret agendas in many things. > > > is the same; divide and rule. > > Hahaha. And exactly where is the "divide" and where is the "rule"? > If you mean divide the problem, yes. If you mean divide the inertia, > yes. If you mean conquor inertia, yes. If you mean developing new > updated rules for creating field effects of consciousness for Peace -- > rules that many more people feel comfortable with -- then yes. Conquor > the ignorance and let heaven on earth rule. Thats a beautiful vision > you have Nablus. > > > He will not succeed, > > I won't succeed. I fully agree. Because the effort is not about me. > Success for me is a non question. A mu statement in Zen. I saw a need, > I provided some tools to help solve the problems raised. If others > want to respond, fine. If they want to use other tools to solve the > problems and issues, fine. > Why not quickly get into the Domes. Forget the past - Just do it To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Train Noise in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > On a few evenings a while back, I teleconferenced into > > > the Wednesday satsang that Tom Traynor hosted. I > > > couldn't hear what most of the people in the room > > > were saying, but when a train passed outside, I could > > > hear the long-long-short-long blast that trains give > > > as they approach crossings. Train noise, in general can be serious, and if they are electric, the EMF voltages are an issue. Recently, in London, someone did a study of children's school performance using kids from a particular tower block. They discovered that all the kids on the side nearest the tracks had consistenly lower performance than those on the side away from the rails. This puzzled them since sleep problems did not seem to be an issue. They ran various tests, and discovered that the children on the train side had the ability to switch off sound at will. They did not know it, but they could. They simply did not hear sounds that they did not like. The researchers then discovered that these kids could, and did switch off the sound of the teacher's voice when they were bored with the class. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
> > *"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > -- Benjamin Franklin > "Spinoza and Leibniz, born within a few years of each other, both recognized and wrote about man's immortality and the process of evolution through reincarnation. Concurrently, similar ideas held the attention of other great minds. Voltaire in France, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine in America, Kant, Herder and Lessing in Germany, Hume and Pope in England were all men of the eighteenth century, the age of enlightenment and the predominance of rationalism. They all believed in the notion of rebirth. Voltaire wrote: "The doctrine of metempsychosis is, above all, neither absurd nor useless...It is not more surprising to be born twice than once; everything in nature is resurrection." According to Benjamin Creme, Benjamin Franklin is currently in incarnation, living in Washington DC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here in > > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > > > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular citizen > > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints and > > stuff. > > > > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > Apparently not. Thats why we need to create new rules, a new paradigm, > appropriate for the current times -- not the past command and control > structures of "kali-yuga". > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/535780035 > > We can thrash about and gnash our teeth about how the TMO should be > less anal, more humane, more accountable etc. Or we can do something > mature and responsible about it. > > Create our own foundation to: > > - Control donations, accountability and management of to any ME or TMO > project > > - provide a power block to negotiate contracts and new "rules" with > the TMO > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, rules > (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, etc.) Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet :-)) as something good. But you miss one central point; what happens within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the success and the failure is all Maharishis Lila. What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is orchestrating. He is at the helm. Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm sorry to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Iran Prepares For War'
Iran says to launch large military exercise www.chinaview.cn 2006-08-18 00:49:13 Related special report: Iran Nuclear Crisis TEHRAN, Aug. 17 (Xinhua) -- The Iranian army said on Thursday that it would launch a large-scale military exercise Saturday, the state television reported. The maneuver will begin in southeastern Iran Saturday, military spokesman Gen. Mohammad Reza Ashtiani was quoted as saying. "It will be carried out stage by stage for a period," he added, without revealing exactly when the exercise would end. "The maneuver is aimed at introducing our new defensive doctrine," Ashtiani said, adding that 12 infantry regiments would participate in the upcoming exercise dubbed "The Blow of Zolfaghar." Zolfaghar is the sword used by Imam Ali, one of the most revered figures for Shiite Muslims. In addition, Ashtiani said that the maneuver came against a backdrop of tensions in the Mideast, saying "We must be ready to fight against any threat and we should be a role model for other countries." "The army is prepared to destroy all plots against the Islamic Republic," he added. In April, Iran launched another large-scale military exercise, the biggest in several years. During the game, Iran said it had tested advanced weapons including missiles and torpedoes. The new Iranian war game will come when Tehran is facing heightened pressure as a UN Security Council resolution urges it to halt uranium enrichment by Aug. 31. EnditemEditor: Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz wrote: > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > Raja of California > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. Maharishi has informed > us that a "big bubble of stress in world consciousness has burst!" > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been working in their > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until the National > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United States and around the > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of stress in world > consciousness has burst! > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain because this is the > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the people an integrated > Natural Consciousness - > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the Global Country of > World Peace. > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the Recertified Governors in the > domains who have remained in their territory to support this new > integration of world consciousness in each of their own areas day by day. > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of you. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. > > > JohnY > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? At least he mentioned Governors. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > on 8/17/06 11:32 PM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > There is a time and a place for everything. Having been > > on > > > a > > > > number > > > > > >> > of job interviews, I have not been completely open > > hearted > > > and > > > > > >> > trusting if I wanted the job. Same thing with S. Ma, > who > > > > should've > > > > > >> > just acted in such a way to be able to do her program > in > > > the > > > > dome. > > > > > >> > Act in context. > > > > > > > > > > > So you¹re saying that the ³context² of the TMO is that you > > have > > > to > > > > lie to > > > > > participate in it, and that she should have abandoned her > > > > principles to get > > > > > what she wanted. > > > > > > > > > Not really- I am saying that she should act as she feels is > > right > > > > for her, and live with the consequences, whatever they might > be. > > > > After all it is she who created the reality that she was > denied > > > > access to the domes. Why blame others? > > > > > > I just do not understand these things. If it is so important to > > > raise the number in the Dome - saying that everybody should > come. > > > Why are they standing at the door and separate people - you are > > pure > > > and you are impure? Ethical, I would say that if people lie to > > > participate in the Dome - they are not pure - not that they have > > > seen some other Gurus here and there. I know some really TBs > that > > > have been running to other Gurus in secret - and is very judging > > > against other TM-Teachers - Sidhas that has done the same thing > > > openly. It is just a double-moral amongst the TBs. > > > I also know TBs that is screaming very high about MMY and what > he > > > does for world peace - and have not participated in WPA's for > > years - > > > not even now. If they really mean what they say - they should > > take > > > the first flight to Fairfield - . > > > > > You mean like Spare Egg who doesn't even meditate regularly? > > I do not really care - I would not be let in even that I have not > seen other Gurus, but because I am an Independent TM-Teacher. I am > just fed up by the TBs that seems to be so devoted to MMY, and so > critical to everybody else. I think they should run when MMY asked > them to run - in that case to Fairfield. As far as I understand this > course is for saving the world, not only America. or do they not > believe in MMY? > > Ingegerd Eh...did Maharishi invite eurpeans to the Invincible America course ? Ingegerd; do your homework. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Reincarnation, an article by Felicity Eliot. From Share Internatinal News
What reincarnation could have done for history by Felicity Eliot A study of history has certain inevitable consequences, one of which is the `what-if' and `if only' theory. This is the sort of awareness of what might have happened which only hindsight affords. The following is a brutally brief glance at the history of reincarnation a history which tempts one to indulge in more what-iffing than usual. For the sake of all, we will suppose Atlantis never was and start where standard received history normally begins. Poor Western man. For centuries he has suffered, confronted with absurdity, meaninglessness and injustice. Death, blind faith, materialism, political and patriotic passion were possible antidotes. But whether he applied the remedy of faith and dogma, or of materialism, indeed whatever was tried, his reality remained fragmented. However he tried to make sense of life and death some nagging questions remained. (If only the teachings of Origen had not been pronounced anathema...) There is one way the way of knowledge through experience and intuition. This is the way of the initiates, the great thinkers, whose names are well known and whose impact is felt even centuries later. Space does not allow anything but the briefest mention of these extraordinary and highly evolved people. A list of brilliant thinkers, who intuited and taught the doctrine of rebirth is virtually endless. Let us name a few: Plato, Pythagoras, Origen, St. Augustine, Philo Judaeus, Paracelsus, Boehme, Spinoza, Leibniz, Schopenhauer, Goethe, Leonardo da Vinci, Bruno, Kant, Blake, Schiller, Emerson, Thoreau, Whitman, Browning, Flaubert, Wagner, Tolstoy, Kipling, Sibelius, McTaggart, Gandhi. Golden seam Tracing the idea of rebirth backwards into remote times, we find that it runs like a golden seam through the thought and teachings of some of these greatest minds and existed too in early cultures. That a belief in reincarnation forms a basic part of many eastern religions is well known. What may be surprising to some is its acceptance by peoples and cultures as diverse as some African tribes and the Eskimos; Australian and Finns, Lapps, Danes and Norse; Pacific Islanders and Celts of Gaul, Wales, England and Ireland. In other words, it is not difficult to make a case for reincarnation. The idea seems to have been with mankind from earliest times and in many different often unconnected cultures. In the development of Western civilization the doctrine of rebirth is always present: explicit and popular at times, persecuted and forced underground at others, the essence of philosophers' teachings, the cause of cruel deaths. It formed an integral part of many religions including Christianity. The doctrine of metempsychosis was always known to esoteric groups: the Egyptian and Greek Mystery Schools, in the Hermetic tradition, part of Kabalism, Manicheism, Gnosticism, Sufism, to give a few examples. Philosophical tradition The great initiate-philosophers knew and taught metempsychosis. Pythagoras, Plato, Pindar, Herodotus the historian and Socrates all believed in reincarnation. Pythagoras had the surname `Mnesarchides', which means `one who remembers his origins'. According to Diogenes Laertius in his Life of Pythagoras, the sage talked of previous lives which he recalled. Pindar is quite explicit not only about the soul's immortality and its cyclical manifestation but also on the subject of karma and evolution into greater divinity: "As for those from whom Persephone has exacted the penalty of their ancient sins, she once more restoreth their souls to the upper sunlight; and from these come into being august monarchs, and men who are swift in strength and supreme in wisdom; and for all future time, men call them sainted heroes." (`supreme in wisdom', `sainted heroes' a description which accords so well with those we have from various disciples of their Masters!) Socrates we know of through his pupil Plato; both accepted the doctrine of rebirth, which rendered Socrates quite fearless, so that he was able to devote "his last morning to reasoning on the real distinction of the soul from the body, and the grounds for believing that it is neither born with the body nor dies with it" Plato's ideas on reincarnation had an enormous influence on Western literature and philosophy. The Platonic Schools of Athens, modelled on his Academy, flourished for nine centuries until a decree by Justinian forbade their existence. Rome's history was influenced by neighbouring Greece. (Pythagoras settled in southern Italy, where he founded a religious-philosophical group. The Stoics held that the soul is immortal and periodically reincarnates. A powerful advocate for the idea of rebirth was Posidonius, born in Syria a little over a century before Christ. Among those who heard him speak was Cicero who himself gradually became a reincarnationist. Other famous Roman names conn
[FairfieldLife] Re: I found this rather interesting, the Kaplans & $
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > "Carmas" are irrelevant. As I said, he wasn't talking > > > > about cause and effect or who was to blame; in fact, he > > > > was saying it didn't matter. He was taking responsibility > > > > for what had happened under his leadership *regardless* of > > > > who was to blame, which is actually the *mature* thing to do. > > > > > > Oh, my. How could he take responsebility for other people > > > carmas ? Don't you see that's impossible ? What he said is > > > just silly politicts. > > > > You really aren't getting it, are you? > > > And you do? Swallowing everything they shove down your throat > there in FF? What a joke. I feel sorry for you. You've just joined us, I gather, and haven't read many of my or Nablus's posts. Nor, it appears, have you even read the exchange you're commenting on. Probably best to, you know, bone up a little on things before you expostulate. It'll save you embarrassment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, > > rules (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, > > etc.) > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet > :-)) as something good. But you miss one central point; what > happens within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the > success and the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm > sorry to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. Unless, of course, it's part of Maharishi Lila. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
"According to Benjamin Creme, Benjamin Franklin is currently in incarnation, living in Washington DC." I heard he is playing Delta Blues there as a one-man-band. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > *"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin > > > > "Spinoza and Leibniz, born within a few years of each other, both > recognized and wrote about man's immortality and the process of > evolution through reincarnation. Concurrently, similar ideas held the > attention of other great minds. Voltaire in France, Benjamin Franklin > and Thomas Paine in America, Kant, Herder and Lessing in Germany, Hume > and Pope in England were all men of the eighteenth century, the age of > enlightenment and the predominance of rationalism. They all believed in > the notion of rebirth. Voltaire wrote: "The doctrine of metempsychosis > is, above all, neither absurd nor useless...It is not more surprising > to be born twice than once; everything in nature is resurrection." > > According to Benjamin Creme, Benjamin Franklin is currently in > incarnation, living in Washington DC. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - and all that jazz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > wrote: > > > not even now. If they really mean what they say - they should > > > take the first flight to Fairfield - . > > > > > You mean like Spare Egg who doesn't even meditate regularly? > > I do not really care - I would not be let in even that I have not > seen other Gurus, but because I am an Independent TM-Teacher. I am > just fed up by the TBs that seems to be so devoted to MMY, and so > critical to everybody else. I think they should run when MMY asked > them to run - in that case to Fairfield. As far as I understand > this course is for saving the world, not only America. or do they > not believe in MMY? It's amazing to me how hard it is for Ingegerd and some others here to understand that pointing out the absurdity of a lot of the criticism of MMY does not necessarily mean "believing in MMY" to the extent of taking every word he says as Ultimate Truth. It's as if they see only the two ends of the spectrum--total belief and total disbelief--with nothing in between. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
"Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the Domain of Raja John Konhaus," Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. JohnY PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys are the nails in the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz wrote: > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > Raja of California > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. Maharishi has informed > us that a "big bubble of stress in world consciousness has burst!" > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been working in their > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until the National > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United States and around the > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of stress in world > consciousness has burst! > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain because this is the > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the people an integrated > Natural Consciousness - > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the Global Country of > World Peace. > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the Recertified Governors in the > domains who have remained in their territory to support this new > integration of world consciousness in each of their own areas day by day. > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of you. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. > > > JohnY > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone tried the BodyVed program?
Thanks for responding Steve. You brought up some great memories. I would love to go to South India someday. I'm sure your trips back are full of amazing experiences. Remember the phrase "in most places you can watch the bottom fall out of your world, but in New Delhi you can watch the world fall out of your bottom!" We really proved that true in NOIDA! I still had a great time there. Life changing even without the TM stuff. I'm glad to hear that you are doing so well. I will pass on the news to Roger F. who is living in NYC and doing great also. You can email me if you want more details. Take care Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > Hey Curtis, > > I've been meaning to say hello as well. The last time I saw you was > in Noida and you just visited Triguna and bought a ton of herbs from > his recommendation and you basically took them all and got real > sick! Noida was something, do you know that that whole area now is > incredibly developed super city. Who would have thought. > > I also remember your magic ventriliquist acts, we had some fun > times. Looks like you have been stirring up all kinds of fun here. > > I'm living in Santa Monica, partners in a software development > company called AmbaSoft and who would have thought that I would ever > return to India after the Vedic Science course, but I've been back 6 > more times, visiting my partner in Madras/Chennai, and rarely got > sick. > > Keep playing the blues Curtis, > > Steve > > > > Hey Steve, > > > > I remember you and your great sense of humor very well from Avon > Park. > > Hope all is cool in your world. > > > > Curtis > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Wondering if anyone has tried the BodyVed program and if so, > what > > > the > > > > experience with it has been. Any results? > > > > > > Here is what I posted a while ago when Rick mentioned > Bodyved.com: > > > > > > > > > >Thanks Rick for sharing Neil's website. I've known Neil since > the > > > early Avon Park days, when Neil was in charge of the flower > growing > > > operation and did an amazing job. I re-connected with him a few > > > years ago and he hasn't changed a bit. I encourage everyone to > check > > > out his site and read about his consciousness breakthroughs and > his > > > BodyVed program which I have been on for a year now and have seen > > > amazing changes in my health and prosperity. It really works and > he > > > is very accessible via phone. Highly recommend getting a hold of > > > Neil. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Why do people discontinue (raaja-)yoga?
Does YS I 30 enumerate the principal reasons why people discontinue practising yoga? vyaadhistyaanasa.nshayapramaadaalasyaaviratibhraantidarshanaalabdhabhuu- mikatvaanavasthitatvaani chittavikshepaaste.antaraayaaH .. 30.. Without sandhi: vyaadhi-styaana-saMshaya-pramaada+aalasya-avirati- bhraanti_darshana-alabdha_bhuumikatva-anavasthitatvaani chitta- vikshepaaH; te; antaraayaaH .. 30.. Translation by BonGiovanni: 1.30. Disease, inertia, doubt, lack of enthusiasm, laziness, sensuality, mind-wandering, missing the point, instability- these distractions of the mind are the obstacles. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > laugh or cry. > > > JohnY > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys > are the nails in > the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! Their penises are deluded? Penises are usually quite grounded and on-task 24/7. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > wrote: > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > > Raja of California > > > > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas > and Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > Maharishi has informed > > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > consciousness has burst!" > > > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > working in their > > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > the National > > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > States and around the > > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > stress in world > > consciousness has burst! > > > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > because this is the > > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > people an integrated > > Natural Consciousness - > > > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > Global Country of > > World Peace. > > > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the > Recertified Governors in the > > domains who have remained in their territory to > support this new > > integration of world consciousness in each of > their own areas day by > day. > > > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of > you. > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether > to laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
> > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. > > > JohnY > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? Of course you are, get used to it :-) It will do you good. I remember John Konhaus. He had an interesting aura. It won't hurt to listen to him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Am I the only one who has noticed Judy's bigoted attitude towards the South?
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[FairfieldLife] 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
I was planning on returning to Madison, this Tuesday, by bus; But since this announcement, by Maharishi, and John; I should just come to Fairfield, I should guess... I hope there's a place to stay, as John said; Kind of broke right now... Anyway, as far as meditating together, I don't see why meditating in town, at the same hour, as the group in the dome; I don't see why this is not as effective. I can't imagine the Maharishi Effect, saving the world, because of its power to radiate infinity, couldn't contain, the City of Fairfield. In other words, just meditate at home at the same hour; Wherever you happen to be; and have the Intention; To connect with everyone else in the group. This in itself is a practice of Sanyama; 'Staying with the 'simplest state of awareness', 'While having just the intention, the faint intention: To be connected to all who are with you, meditating together... All who are in the dome are Blessed to be doing this special work; For the good of the world, and for the satisfaction of the Master; In his life-long sincere work, to make the world a safe, and peaceful place... So, if these are the rules, then so be it. Everyone is playing out some part, as Shakespeare said. R.G. Seattle, Washington. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
I'll bet the Raja's "little rajas" have been unemployed for years! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys > > are the nails in > > the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! > > Their penises are deluded? Penises are usually quite > grounded and on-task 24/7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > > > Raja of California > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas > > and Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > > Maharishi has informed > > > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > > consciousness has burst!" > > > > > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > > working in their > > > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > > the National > > > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > > States and around the > > > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > > stress in world > > > consciousness has burst! > > > > > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > > because this is the > > > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > > people an integrated > > > Natural Consciousness - > > > > > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > > Global Country of > > > World Peace. > > > > > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the > > Recertified Governors in the > > > domains who have remained in their territory to > > support this new > > > integration of world consciousness in each of > > their own areas day by > > day. > > > > > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of > > you. > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether > > to laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
Self-employed more likely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? > > Of course you are, get used to it :-) > It will do you good. > > I remember John Konhaus. He had an interesting aura. It won't hurt to > listen to him. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Local Foundation to Contract with TMO for Services
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This petition is a call for a pledge to support, via volunteer > > > and/or > > > > financial resources, the creation of a private foundation to: > > > > > > > > i) monitor and objectively evaluate research on the Maharishi > > > Effect > > > > (ME) and other peace-creating consciousness field effects, and > > > > > > > > ii) to publicize, monitor, provide scholarships for, recruit > blocks > > > of > > > > volunteers, and negotiate fair conditions for such, with > > > established, > > > > new or to-be-established Peace Field Effect organizations, such > as > > > the > > > > TMO, and, > > > > > > > > iii) provide or create flexible use agreements within existing > > > > facilities, or establish new facilities, with appropriate and > > > > universal-focused use guidelines, for peace field effects > groups and > > > > projects, such as the ME, in the US and throughout the world > and, > > > > > > > > iv) explore parallel efforts and effects to produce substantial > > > > violence reduction and peace-creating field effects through > > > > purification of collective consciousness provided by other > > > > consciousness, yogic, tantric, traditional cultures and > spiritual > > > > group service providers. > > > > > > > > > Hehe, Vaj is gone, William is gone, now this fellow appears out > of > > > the blue. > > > > Hardly out of the blue. I have been posting for some time. > > > > This fellow is more clever than the two mentioned, > > > > faint prise, haha :) > > > > > but the > > > agenda > > > > I asssume you are implying some secret "agenda", not the one > > publically expoused -- in this case -- a grass roots effort, to > > provide a vehicle for the "disenfranchised", service-focussed and > > spiritual beings in FF, TMO and other groups to pull together to > > provide a balanced and healing force for soothing TMO excesses and > > harshness -- and provide a way for all to participate, celebrate and > > serve in providing a group conciousness field effect for world > peace. > > > > You seem to see secret agendas in many things. > > > > > is the same; divide and rule. > > > > Hahaha. And exactly where is the "divide" and where is the "rule"? > > If you mean divide the problem, yes. If you mean divide the inertia, > > yes. If you mean conquor inertia, yes. If you mean developing new > > updated rules for creating field effects of consciousness for > Peace -- > > rules that many more people feel comfortable with -- then yes. > Conquor > > the ignorance and let heaven on earth rule. Thats a beautiful vision > > you have Nablus. > > > > > He will not succeed, > > > > I won't succeed. I fully agree. Because the effort is not about me. > > Success for me is a non question. A mu statement in Zen. I saw a > need, > > I provided some tools to help solve the problems raised. If others > > want to respond, fine. If they want to use other tools to solve the > > problems and issues, fine. > > > Why not quickly get into the Domes. Forget the past - Just do it > Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Shunned From The Dome/Like Being On 'No Fly List'...
Well sort of; It's like the same thing in a way; There you are at the airport, waiting to board; And someone says, you're on some kind of list; And you cannot board the aircraft. Oh well, Got to take the bus now... R.G. Seattle, Washington... Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here > in > > > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > > > > > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > > > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular > citizen > > > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints > and > > > stuff. > > > > > > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > > > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > Apparently not. Thats why we need to create new rules, a new > paradigm, > > appropriate for the current times -- not the past command and > control > > structures of "kali-yuga". > > > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/535780035 > > > > We can thrash about and gnash our teeth about how the TMO should be > > less anal, more humane, more accountable etc. Or we can do something > > mature and responsible about it. > > > > Create our own foundation to: > > > > - Control donations, accountability and management of to any ME or > TMO > > project > > > > - provide a power block to negotiate contracts and new "rules" with > > the TMO > > > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, > rules > > (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, etc.) > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet :- )) > as something good. But you miss one central point; what happens > within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the success and > the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm sorry > to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. So, I guess action by people who meditate is totally useless...unless your guru sanctions it. And what path is this that cult member Nablus advocates? It ain't TM! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? > > Of course you are, get used to it :-) > It will do you good. Why will it do us good? Because your cult guru declared it? > > I remember John Konhaus. He had an interesting aura. You see auras, Nablus? > It won't hurt to > listen to him. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll bet the Raja's "little rajas" have been unemployed for years! ...as in "Little Elvis's"...? > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- curtisdeltablues > > wrote: > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > > Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > > laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys > > > are the nails in > > > the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! > > > > Their penises are deluded? Penises are usually quite > > grounded and on-task 24/7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > > > > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > > > > Raja of California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas > > > and Meditators in the > > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > > > > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > > > Maharishi has informed > > > > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > > > consciousness has burst!" > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > > > working in their > > > > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > > > the National > > > > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > > > > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > > > States and around the > > > > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > > > stress in world > > > > consciousness has burst! > > > > > > > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > > > because this is the > > > > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > > > people an integrated > > > > Natural Consciousness - > > > > > > > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > > > Global Country of > > > > World Peace. > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the > > > Recertified Governors in the > > > > domains who have remained in their territory to > > > support this new > > > > integration of world consciousness in each of > > > their own areas day by > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > > > > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > > Meditators in the > > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether > > > to laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:> No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place> and it is still going on while it is appealed.Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys > > are the nails in > > the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! > > Their penises are deluded? Penises are usually quite > grounded and on-task 24/7. ...not unless you're cardemeister and your penis is out of commission due to a hernia and urdvareta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > > > Raja of California > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas > > and Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > > Maharishi has informed > > > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > > consciousness has burst!" > > > > > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > > working in their > > > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > > the National > > > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > > States and around the > > > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > > stress in world > > > consciousness has burst! > > > > > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > > because this is the > > > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > > people an integrated > > > Natural Consciousness - > > > > > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > > Global Country of > > > World Peace. > > > > > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the > > Recertified Governors in the > > > domains who have remained in their territory to > > support this new > > > integration of world consciousness in each of > > their own areas day by > > day. > > > > > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of > > you. > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether > > to laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:> No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place> and it is still going on while it is appealed.Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, > > > rules (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, > > > etc.) > > > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet > > :-)) as something good. But you miss one central point; what > > happens within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the > > success and the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm > > sorry to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. > > Unless, of course, it's part of Maharishi Lila. Is that an option ? It involves that Maharishi does not really mean what he says. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was planning on returning to Madison, this Tuesday, by bus; > But since this announcement, by Maharishi, and John; > I should just come to Fairfield, I should guess... > I hope there's a place to stay, as John said; > Kind of broke right now... > > Anyway, as far as meditating together, I don't see why meditating in > town, at the same hour, as the group in the dome; > I don't see why this is not as effective. > I can't imagine the Maharishi Effect, saving the world, because of > its power to radiate infinity, couldn't contain, the City of > Fairfield. > In other words, just meditate at home at the same hour; > Wherever you happen to be; and have the Intention; > To connect with everyone else in the group. > This in itself is a practice of Sanyama; > 'Staying with the 'simplest state of awareness', > 'While having just the intention, the faint intention: > To be connected to all who are with you, meditating together... > All who are in the dome are Blessed to be doing this special work; > For the good of the world, and for the satisfaction of the Master; > In his life-long sincere work, to make the world a safe, and peaceful > place... > So, if these are the rules, then so be it. > Everyone is playing out some part, as Shakespeare said. > R.G. Seattle, Washington. It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just come together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/18/06 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And isn't it interesting how much time the major networks devoted to >this as compared to the court decision on wiretaps which is by far more >important.No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place and it is >still going on while it is appealed. So nothing has really changed and >probably won't till the Supreme Court hears it. It will make an excellent campaign >issue. >Liar. Most people do not want the current NSA program in place. Where did you get that information? FUX News?*"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-- Benjamin Franklin* Washington Post. not exactly a Conservative news paper or one friendly to the administration. Read for yourself. Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
> "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > laugh or cry. It's not even accurate. The reason some sidhas were called 'governors' was because they were supposed to 'govern the trends of time' by flying, teaching, and representing the movement. Now that non-certified governors are allowed to do no more than the first of the three, they're not really governors anymore. It's just an empty title. --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > Raja of California > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > Maharishi has informed > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > consciousness has burst!" > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > working in their > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > the National > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > States and around the > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > stress in world > consciousness has burst! > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > because this is the > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > people an integrated > Natural Consciousness - > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > Global Country of > World Peace. > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the Recertified > Governors in the > domains who have remained in their territory to > support this new > integration of world consciousness in each of their > own areas day by day. > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of you. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > Meditators in the > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > laugh or cry. > > > JohnY > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/18/06 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-- Benjamin Franklin Benjamin Franklin also said "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". Not exactly an absolute truth IMHO. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place > > and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) Gee. I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." Hell, frozen over...NOT. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least > here > > in > > > > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > > > > > > > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines > stand > > > > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular > > citizen > > > > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy > saints > > and > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of > the > > > > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > > > Apparently not. Thats why we need to create new rules, a new > > paradigm, > > > appropriate for the current times -- not the past command and > > control > > > structures of "kali-yuga". > > > > > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/535780035 > > > > > > We can thrash about and gnash our teeth about how the TMO should > be > > > less anal, more humane, more accountable etc. Or we can do > something > > > mature and responsible about it. > > > > > > Create our own foundation to: > > > > > > - Control donations, accountability and management of to any ME > or > > TMO > > > project > > > > > > - provide a power block to negotiate contracts and new "rules" > with > > > the TMO > > > > > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, > > rules > > > (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, etc.) > > > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet :- > )) > > as something good. But you miss one central point; what happens > > within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the success > and > > the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm > sorry > > to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. > > > > So, I guess action by people who meditate is totally > useless... No unless your guru sanctions it. Yes > > And what path is this that cult member Nablus advocates? > > It ain't TM! Of course it is > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > --- In _FairfieldLife@FairfieldLifFai_ (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > , MDixon6569@, MDi> > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place> > and it is still going on while it is appealed.> > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping.> > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html)Gee.I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected."Hell, frozen over...NOT. Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > laugh or cry. > > It's not even accurate. The reason some sidhas were > called 'governors' was because they were supposed to > 'govern the trends of time' by flying, teaching, and > representing the movement. Now that non-certified > governors are allowed to do no more than the first of > the three, they're not really governors anymore. It's > just an empty title. We are still TM-teachers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > > wrote: > > > > > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, > programs, > > > > rules (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, > > > > etc.) > > > > > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet > > > :-)) as something good. But you miss one central point; what > > > happens within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the > > > success and the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > > > > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > > > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > > > > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > > > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm > > > sorry to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. > > > > Unless, of course, it's part of Maharishi Lila. > > Is that an option ? It involves that Maharishi does not really mean > what he says. Which may also be part of Maharish Lila. Once you invoke Maharishi Lila, all bets are off, you see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > Gee. > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for you to wiggle out of it. I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as a liar. Your choice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] carman & karman
carman [pronounce ~ts(h)arman] n. hide , skin RV. AV. iv f. x ff. TS. &c. ; bark W. ; parchment W. ; a shield MBh. R. BhP. Katha1s. ; = %{-rmA7khya} Car. vi , 7 , 11 ; [cf. %{gala-} , %{duz-} ; $ ; Lat. {corium} ; Hib. {croicionn}.] karman n. action, deed, work, esp. holy work, sacrifice, rite; result, effect; organ of sense; the direct object (g.); fate, destiny. Well, the forms "carman" and "karman" may be called oblique case stems, because as opposed to the nominative singular (carma, karma),most other inflectional cases have the stem that ends in 'n', e.g. "carman-i" 'on the skin?', "karman-i" 'in the action?'. OTOH, "karmaani" , plural 'actions' as in "yogasthaH kuru karmaani". In Swedish the Sanskrit locative case ending 'i' has been moved in front of words and separated to become a preposition, for instance "i jobbet" (in work). :0 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool wrote: > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > > Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > > laugh or cry. > > > > It's not even accurate. The reason some sidhas were > > called 'governors' was because they were supposed to > > 'govern the trends of time' by flying, teaching, and > > representing the movement. Now that non-certified > > governors are allowed to do no more than the first of > > the three, they're not really governors anymore. It's > > just an empty title. > > We are still TM-teachers. > No, we're not. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > laugh or cry. > > It's not even accurate. The reason some sidhas were > called 'governors' was because they were supposed to > 'govern the trends of time' by flying, teaching, and > representing the movement. Now that non-certified > governors are allowed to do no more than the first of > the three, they're not really governors anymore. It's > just an empty title. > It was always a fairly empty title. I'll have to admit when I first read this tagline it made me laugh alot. What's sad is that they would all be strung together Recertifying siddhas, call it a feeble attempt at humor, for now. JohnY > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jiva jivazz > > wrote: > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > A day of victory on Krishna's birthday > > > > > > Professor Dr. John Konhaus > > > Raja of California > > > > > > > > > Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus, > > > > > > Today marks a most special day in our world. > > Maharishi has informed > > us that a "big bubble of stress in world > > consciousness has burst!" > > > > > > Maharishi said that, all the Rajas have been > > working in their > > domains and focused to send the yogic flyers until > > the National > > Invincibility number is reached. > > > > > > This consolidated effort throughout the United > > States and around the > > world has had a very great effect. a big bubble of > > stress in world > > consciousness has burst! > > > > > > Now, today, flags will be raised in every domain > > because this is the > > great day of victory. Rajas have offered to the > > people an integrated > > Natural Consciousness - > > > > > > Today is a great day to raise the flag of the > > Global Country of > > World Peace. > > > > > > Maharishi particularly appreciated the Recertified > > Governors in the > > domains who have remained in their territory to > > support this new > > integration of world consciousness in each of their > > own areas day by day. > > > > > > He expressed his warm appreciation to all of you. > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > > > Raja John Konhaus > > > > > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > Meditators in the > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > laugh or cry. > > > > > > JohnY > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines? on 8/18/06 10:19 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here in > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular citizen > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints and > stuff. > > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? At least once a day I get called or emailed or approached on the street by people trying to get me to go to the dome. The person who called last night said that the course office had encouraged everyone to call their friends, even people who previously had not been allowed in the dome, and that “only about 1% of the people are still being refused for personal reasons.” If the course office announces that their new policy is to ask people to agree to do nothing other than Maharishi’s techniques in the dome, and that they won’t concern themselves with anything other than that, I’ll consider applying. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
In a message dated 8/19/06 10:56:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertionto reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you asa liar.Your choice. Wow! Have at it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > I was planning on returning to Madison, this Tuesday, by bus; > > But since this announcement, by Maharishi, and John; > > I should just come to Fairfield, I should guess... > > I hope there's a place to stay, as John said; > > Kind of broke right now... > > > > Anyway, as far as meditating together, I don't see why meditating > in > > town, at the same hour, as the group in the dome; > > I don't see why this is not as effective. > > I can't imagine the Maharishi Effect, saving the world, because of > > its power to radiate infinity, couldn't contain, the City of > > Fairfield. > > In other words, just meditate at home at the same hour; > > Wherever you happen to be; and have the Intention; > > To connect with everyone else in the group. > > This in itself is a practice of Sanyama; > > 'Staying with the 'simplest state of awareness', > > 'While having just the intention, the faint intention: > > To be connected to all who are with you, meditating together... > > All who are in the dome are Blessed to be doing this special work; > > For the good of the world, and for the satisfaction of the Master; > > In his life-long sincere work, to make the world a safe, and > peaceful > > place... > > So, if these are the rules, then so be it. > > Everyone is playing out some part, as Shakespeare said. > > R.G. Seattle, Washington. > > It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just come > together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what > hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. > I suppose God is vengful too!? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Madonna Urged To Avoid Arrest in Germany'
Wednesday, 16 August 2006, 07:33 GMT 08:33 UK Germany to monitor Madonna show German prosecutors are to monitor Madonna's concert to determine whether a mock crucifixion could be construed as insulting religious beliefs. The segment of her tour where she appears on a cross wearing a crown of thorns has provoked controversy in several countries. Prosecutors admit they will rely on media reports of the concert rather than send their own observers. Madonna will play in Dusseldorf on Sunday, following on from her UK dates. Religious leaders have objected to the performance, which Madonna says is part of an appeal for Aids charities. 'In context' Vatican Cardinal Ersilio Tonino, who spoke with the approval of the Pope, called the concert "a blasphemous challenge to the faith" and a "profanation of the cross". He also called for Madonna, who was raised as a Catholic, to be excommunicated. Muslim and Jewish leaders in Rome also raised objections before the star's concert in the city on 6 August. However, the performance went ahead, including the segment on the cross. Madonna's New York-based spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg, denied that the star's show was insulting. "The context of Madonna's performance on the crucifix is not negative nor disrespectful toward the church," she said. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts himself or be exposed as a liar. Astonishingly, he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: The court decision that is being appealed forbids the part of the NSA program that involves WARRANTLESS wiretapping. The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about approval of NSA's wiretapping. A majority approve of wiretapping. A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. There would be no court case if it weren't for WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping should be permitted. The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be permitted. The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are deliberately obscuring this distinction. The "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this distinction in its poll questions, reporting the results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of everything in the NSA program. So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, "not friendly to the Bush administration." The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on national security. But there is *no* Democrat running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as the government is required to obtain a warrant. A majority of the American people, as I said and as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS wiretapping. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > Gee. > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > you to wiggle out of it. > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > a liar. > > Your choice. MDixon: Now you know why Turquoise almost went into a mental hospital. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/18/06 10:19 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here in > >> > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > >> > > >> > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > >> > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular citizen > >> > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints and > >> > stuff. > >> > > >> > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > >> > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > At least once a day I get called or emailed or approached on the street by > people trying to get me to go to the dome. The person who called last night > said that the course office had encouraged everyone to call their friends, > even people who previously had not been allowed in the dome, and that ³only > about 1% of the people are still being refused for personal reasons.² If the > course office announces that their new policy is to ask people to agree to > do nothing other than Maharishi¹s techniques in the dome, and that they > won¹t concern themselves with anything other than that, I¹ll consider > applying. It will be their gain is they let you go; their loss if they don't. Good luck. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
Rick Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a victory, for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return of the Prodigal Son." You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from Amma and going back to your TM mantra? You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the overall grand scheme of world peace? "To thine own self be true." -W. Shakespeare "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate." -Chuang Tsu Chaim L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/18/06 10:19 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here in > >> > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > >> > > >> > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > >> > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular citizen > >> > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints and > >> > stuff. > >> > > >> > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > >> > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > At least once a day I get called or emailed or approached on the street by > people trying to get me to go to the dome. The person who called last night > said that the course office had encouraged everyone to call their friends, > even people who previously had not been allowed in the dome, and that ³only > about 1% of the people are still being refused for personal reasons.² If the > course office announces that their new policy is to ask people to agree to > do nothing other than Maharishi¹s techniques in the dome, and that they > won¹t concern themselves with anything other than that, I¹ll consider > applying. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > Gee. > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > you to wiggle out of it. > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > a liar. That's his choice? He's either a liar or he's wrong and has to amend his assertion? Even when it's quite clear to virtually any sane person who reads this debate that he's right and you're wrong? There's no middle ground? It's not even possible that MDixon made an innocent mistake...he's just a flat out liar? What is it in you, Judy, that makes you fill this forum with such hate? > > Your choice. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
(snip) > It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just come > together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what > hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. > What worked during the Cuba Crises? Are you talking about 1962? Was there a 'Super-Radiance course in the dome; In 1962? I don't follow?...what Cuba Crises? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The saddest post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: [snip] > > So, if these are the rules, then so be it. > > Everyone is playing out some part, as Shakespeare said. > > R.G. Seattle, Washington. > > It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just come > together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what > hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. This is so sad. This TM cultist has now become a fundamentalist Christian: accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior or you will burn in hell forever... ...is replaced by... ...unless you come to the Dome, there are untold hardships that will be visited upon you. Nature is angry... In other words, follow the Maharishi out of fear, not out of conviction or genuine desire to help out the world at this perilous time. The TMO Trinity: Fear, exclusion, intolerance. I weep. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I found this rather interesting, the Kaplans & $
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > "Carmas" are irrelevant. As I said, he wasn't talking > > > > > about cause and effect or who was to blame; in fact, he > > > > > was saying it didn't matter. He was taking responsibility > > > > > for what had happened under his leadership *regardless* of > > > > > who was to blame, which is actually the *mature* thing to do. > > > > > > > > Oh, my. How could he take responsebility for other people > > > > carmas ? Don't you see that's impossible ? What he said is > > > > just silly politicts. > > > > > > You really aren't getting it, are you? > > > > > And you do? Swallowing everything they shove down your throat > > there in FF? What a joke. I feel sorry for you. > > You've just joined us, I gather, and haven't read > many of my or Nablus's posts. Nor, it appears, have > you even read the exchange you're commenting on. > > Probably best to, you know, bone up a little on things > before you expostulate. It'll save you embarrassment. > No Missy, I've been reading your posts in FFL for quite some time. My comment wasn't directed to your and Nablus's little skirmish over Carter and "the buck". It was directed at you, since this was the umpteenth time I had read one of your self important pontifications from on high (horse). I disliked your type when I was around MMY and I dislike it now. Have a swell day. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Madonna Urged To Avoid Arrest in Germany'
Reality check: 1) This is all for publicity. Madonna would pay $5 million to guarantee that they would arrest her. Like Tommy Chong's stint in jail, it's the best thing that could happen to her at this point in her career. 2) She's a fucking hypocrite. Don't you remember her negative comments against Sinead O'Conner when she tore up that photograph of the Pope on Saturday Night Live a decade or so ago? The flac she got from all quarters pretty much put O'Conner's career into a tailspin that she never quite recovered from. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wednesday, 16 August 2006, 07:33 GMT 08:33 UK > Germany to monitor Madonna show German prosecutors are to monitor Madonna's concert to determine whether a mock crucifixion could be construed as insulting religious beliefs. > The segment of her tour where she appears on a cross wearing a crown of thorns has provoked controversy in several countries. Prosecutors admit they will rely on media reports of the concert rather than send their own observers. Madonna will play in Dusseldorf on Sunday, following on from her UK dates. Religious leaders have objected to the performance, which Madonna says is part of an appeal for Aids charities. 'In context' Vatican Cardinal Ersilio Tonino, who spoke with the approval of the Pope, called the concert "a blasphemous challenge to the faith" and a "profanation of the cross". He also called for Madonna, who was raised as a Catholic, to be excommunicated. Muslim and Jewish leaders in Rome also raised objections before the star's concert in the city on 6 August. However, the performance went ahead, including the segment on the cross. Madonna's New York-based spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg, denied that the star's show was insulting. "The context > of Madonna's performance on the crucifix is not negative nor disrespectful toward the church," she said. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts > himself or be exposed as a liar. This isn't a star chamber or inquisition, Judy, other than in your own head. Decease and desist, please. > Astonishingly, > he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: > > The court decision that is being appealed forbids > the part of the NSA program that involves > WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > > The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS > wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about > approval of NSA's wiretapping. > > A majority approve of wiretapping. > > A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen > other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS > wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. > > This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. > There would be no court case if it weren't for > WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was > asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping > should be permitted. > > The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just > as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be > permitted. > > The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are > deliberately obscuring this distinction. The > "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this > distinction in its poll questions, reporting the > results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping > weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of > everything in the NSA program. > > So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, > "not friendly to the Bush administration." > > The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, > and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The > Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the > NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on > national security. But there is *no* Democrat > running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long > as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as > the government is required to obtain a warrant. > > A majority of the American people, as I said and > as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS > wiretapping. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > a liar. > > > > Your choice. > > > MDixon: > > Now you know why Turquoise almost went into a mental hospital. People who lie constantly, like Barry, do tend to have major difficulties dealing with having their lies consistently refuted. They've gotten so used to lying as a way of life they feel as if the rug has been pulled out from underneath them. Let's hope MDixon is able to pull back before getting himself caught in that trap. I don't think he's a liar at heart. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > a liar. > > That's his choice? > > He's either a liar or he's wrong and has to amend his assertion? Yup, them's the facts, sorry. I pointed him in the right direction, so if he doesn't take it and figure out he's wrong and acknowledge it, he becomes accountable for the falsehood. > Even when it's quite clear to virtually any sane person who reads > this debate that he's right and you're wrong? Um, well, no, you see, I'm right on this one. Anybody who thinks otherwise is ignorant. > There's no middle ground? > > It's not even possible that MDixon made an innocent mistake...he's > just a flat out liar? I think (as I said earlier) that he just made an innocent mistake, having been misled by dishonest Republicans. But he becomes a liar if he doesn't correct the error now that it's been pointed out to him that it *is* an error. > What is it in you, Judy, that makes you fill this forum with such > hate? What I want to know is why *everybody* doesn't hate dishonesty, and why some, like you, even approve of it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight > Time, > > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > > Time, > > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program > in > > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > > a liar. > > > > > > Your choice. > > > > > > MDixon: > > > > Now you know why Turquoise almost went into a mental hospital. > > People who lie constantly, like Barry, do tend to > have major difficulties dealing with having their > lies consistently refuted. They've gotten so used > to lying as a way of life they feel as if the rug > has been pulled out from underneath them. > > Let's hope MDixon is able to pull back before getting > himself caught in that trap. I don't think he's a > liar at heart. ...then why even HINT or SUGGEST that he is a liar if you don't think he is one at heart. Judy, I suggest that it is you who should be given the opportunity to amend your assertion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I found this rather interesting, the Kaplans & $
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Carmas" are irrelevant. As I said, he wasn't talking > > > > > > about cause and effect or who was to blame; in fact, he > > > > > > was saying it didn't matter. He was taking responsibility > > > > > > for what had happened under his leadership *regardless* of > > > > > > who was to blame, which is actually the *mature* thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, my. How could he take responsebility for other people > > > > > carmas ? Don't you see that's impossible ? What he said is > > > > > just silly politicts. > > > > > > > > You really aren't getting it, are you? > > > > > > > And you do? Swallowing everything they shove down your throat > > > there in FF? What a joke. I feel sorry for you. > > > > You've just joined us, I gather, and haven't read > > many of my or Nablus's posts. Nor, it appears, have > > you even read the exchange you're commenting on. > > > > Probably best to, you know, bone up a little on things > > before you expostulate. It'll save you embarrassment. > > > No Missy, I've been reading your posts in FFL for quite some > time. My comment wasn't directed to your and Nablus's little > skirmish over Carter and "the buck". It was directed at you, > since this was the umpteenth time I had read one of your self > important pontifications from on high (horse). I disliked > your type when I was around MMY and I dislike it now. Well, fine, but, you see, I don't live in Fairfield, I'm hardly a True Believer, and I'm having this skirmish over Carter and "the buck" with someone who *is* a True Believer. And the skirmish doesn't have anything to do with TM or MMY or the TMO in any case. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, assuming your errors were due to your not having been around long enough to have filled out your player scorecard. But I see now you have no such excuse. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight > > Time, > > > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > > > Time, > > > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA > program > > in > > > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > > > a liar. > > > > > > > > Your choice. > > > > > > > > > MDixon: > > > > > > Now you know why Turquoise almost went into a mental hospital. > > > > People who lie constantly, like Barry, do tend to > > have major difficulties dealing with having their > > lies consistently refuted. They've gotten so used > > to lying as a way of life they feel as if the rug > > has been pulled out from underneath them. > > > > Let's hope MDixon is able to pull back before getting > > himself caught in that trap. I don't think he's a > > liar at heart. > > ...then why even HINT or SUGGEST that he is a liar if you don't > think he is one at heart. You're a little confused, as usual, Shemp. I gave him an opportunity to correct his misstatements. If he does not, he *becomes* a liar (as I said earlier). > > Judy, I suggest that it is you who should be given the opportunity > to amend your assertion. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program > in > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts > > himself or be exposed as a liar. > > This isn't a star chamber or inquisition, Judy, other than in your > own head. > > Decease and desist, please. Now that you've discovered that I was right all along, it's about time for an apology, don't you think? > > Astonishingly, > > he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: > > > > The court decision that is being appealed forbids > > the part of the NSA program that involves > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > > > > The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS > > wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about > > approval of NSA's wiretapping. > > > > A majority approve of wiretapping. > > > > A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen > > other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS > > wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. > > > > This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. > > There would be no court case if it weren't for > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was > > asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > should be permitted. > > > > The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just > > as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be > > permitted. > > > > The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are > > deliberately obscuring this distinction. The > > "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this > > distinction in its poll questions, reporting the > > results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of > > everything in the NSA program. > > > > So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, > > "not friendly to the Bush administration." > > > > The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, > > and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The > > Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the > > NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on > > national security. But there is *no* Democrat > > running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long > > as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as > > the government is required to obtain a warrant. > > > > A majority of the American people, as I said and > > as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS > > wiretapping. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program > > in > > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > > > I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts > > > himself or be exposed as a liar. > > > > This isn't a star chamber or inquisition, Judy, other than in your > > own head. > > > > Decease and desist, please. > > Now that you've discovered that I was right all > along, it's about time for an apology, don't you > think? Yes, you're right. MDixon, I apologise to you that I have given this insanity even the slightest attention that I have. It has, obviously, given more space and time to something that, had I just treated it with the humor it obviously deserved, would have probably by now been forgotten. > > > > > Astonishingly, > > > he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: > > > > > > The court decision that is being appealed forbids > > > the part of the NSA program that involves > > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > > > > > > The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS > > > wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about > > > approval of NSA's wiretapping. > > > > > > A majority approve of wiretapping. > > > > > > A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen > > > other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS > > > wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. > > > > > > This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. > > > There would be no court case if it weren't for > > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was > > > asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > > should be permitted. > > > > > > The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just > > > as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be > > > permitted. > > > > > > The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are > > > deliberately obscuring this distinction. The > > > "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this > > > distinction in its poll questions, reporting the > > > results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > > weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of > > > everything in the NSA program. > > > > > > So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, > > > "not friendly to the Bush administration." > > > > > > The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, > > > and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The > > > Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the > > > NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on > > > national security. But there is *no* Democrat > > > running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long > > > as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as > > > the government is required to obtain a warrant. > > > > > > A majority of the American people, as I said and > > > as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS > > > wiretapping. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Madonna Urged To Avoid Arrest in Germany'
She is as phony as her British accent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reality check: > > 1) This is all for publicity. Madonna would pay $5 million to > guarantee that they would arrest her. Like Tommy Chong's stint in > jail, it's the best thing that could happen to her at this point in > her career. > > 2) She's a fucking hypocrite. Don't you remember her negative > comments against Sinead O'Conner when she tore up that photograph of > the Pope on Saturday Night Live a decade or so ago? The flac she > got from all quarters pretty much put O'Conner's career into a > tailspin that she never quite recovered from. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > wrote: > > > > Wednesday, 16 August 2006, 07:33 GMT 08:33 UK > > Germany to monitor Madonna show German prosecutors are to > monitor Madonna's concert to determine whether a mock crucifixion > could be construed as insulting religious beliefs. > > The segment of her tour where she appears on a cross wearing a > crown of thorns has provoked controversy in several countries. > Prosecutors admit they will rely on media reports of the concert > rather than send their own observers. Madonna will play in > Dusseldorf on Sunday, following on from her UK dates. Religious > leaders have objected to the performance, which Madonna says is part > of an appeal for Aids charities. 'In context' Vatican Cardinal > Ersilio Tonino, who spoke with the approval of the Pope, called the > concert "a blasphemous challenge to the faith" and a "profanation of > the cross". He also called for Madonna, who was raised as a > Catholic, to be excommunicated. Muslim and Jewish leaders in Rome > also raised objections before the star's concert in the city on 6 > August. However, the performance went ahead, including the segment > on the cross. Madonna's New York-based spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg, > denied that the star's show was insulting. "The context > > of Madonna's performance on the crucifix is not negative nor > disrespectful toward the church," she said. > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program > > > > > in place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts > > himself or be exposed as a liar. > > This isn't a star chamber or inquisition, Judy, other than in your > own head. The reason this is so important, by the way, is it's an example of the kind of Republican dishonesty that got Bush elected and will result in the Republicans retaining control of Congress after the 2006 election, if Democrats and independents don't start speaking up and exposing the lies. It certainly wouldn't hurt if a few honest Republicans refused to play the game and spoke up too. I'm hoping MDixon might turn out to be one of them, if I'm right that he's been deceived himself on this particular issue. But I'm not holding my breath. > > Astonishingly, > > he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: > > > > The court decision that is being appealed forbids > > the part of the NSA program that involves > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > > > > The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS > > wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about > > approval of NSA's wiretapping. > > > > A majority approve of wiretapping. > > > > A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen > > other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS > > wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. > > > > This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. > > There would be no court case if it weren't for > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was > > asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > should be permitted. > > > > The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just > > as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be > > permitted. > > > > The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are > > deliberately obscuring this distinction. The > > "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this > > distinction in its poll questions, reporting the > > results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of > > everything in the NSA program. > > > > So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, > > "not friendly to the Bush administration." > > > > The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, > > and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The > > Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the > > NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on > > national security. But there is *no* Democrat > > running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long > > as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as > > the government is required to obtain a warrant. > > > > A majority of the American people, as I said and > > as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS > > wiretapping. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines? on 8/19/06 12:44 PM, chaim_laib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rick > > Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a victory, > for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick > Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly > get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return > of the Prodigal Son." > > You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice > that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but > wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from Amma and > going back to your TM mantra? > > You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your > program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the > overall grand scheme of world peace? > > "To thine own self be true." > -W. Shakespeare > > "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay > centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate." > -Chuang Tsu I concur with what you said, and thanks for the nice quotes. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario, which will actualize when pigs fly, in which the course office would decide not to concern themselves with people’s lives any longer. So if that happened and I did end up going I don’t think people would see it as a victory for the old way of doing things. But as you say, I enjoy my practice as it is, so it ain’t gonna happen. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> >> > > > >>>And isn't it interesting how much time the major networks devoted >>>to this as compared to the court decision on wiretaps which is by >>>far more important. >>> >>> >>> >>These days, any time they can divert attention away from you-know- >>who, they gladly will, although last night I did see Britt Hume on >>Fox attacking the judge that ruled the wiretapping illegal. >> >> > >The JonBenet case is ratings *gold*. They aren't >trying to divert attention from Bush but rather to >cash in. Blame their audiences, in this instance. >That's what people want to watch. > The same dregs of society who make American Idol and its knock offs so popular? The masses have been programmer to want this shit. They can be deprogrammed too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" >>wrote: >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> shempmcgurk wrote: >Anyone else think that this guy Karr is just saying he killed > > >>her >> >> >>>for >>> >>> >the attention? > >Recently, here in Phoenix, a fellow admitted to killing a > > >bunch > > >>of >> >> >people but it turned out he didn't have anything to do with > > >it. > > And isn't it interesting how much time the major networks >>devoted to >> >> this as compared to the court decision on wiretaps which is by >>far >> >> >>>more >>> >>> important. >>>These days, any time they can divert attention away from you- >>> >>> >know- > > >>who, >> >> >>>they gladly will, although last night I did see Britt Hume on >>> >>> >Fox > > >>>attacking the judge that ruled the wiretapping illegal. >>> >>> >> >>Who is the "they" you refer to? >> >> >> >>From the posting I was responding to, 'the major networks'. They who >would feed the hand that bites them... > Then you have to go deeper as to who owns and controls these networks and the bigger picture shows a tiny group of very wealthy individuals who have controlled (or attempted to) things down through time. It is known as an "open conspiracy" or for practical purpose no conspiracy at all but the strategy of this group. They have always hated seeing the masses own property and attendant freedoms that come with that. They are our deepest enemy and I think it is time to take their power away. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 8/18/06 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >And isn't it interesting how much time the major networks devoted to > > >>this as compared to the court decision on wiretaps which is by far more >>important. >> >> >> >>No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place and it >> >> >is > > >>still going on while it is appealed. So nothing has really changed and >>probably won't till the Supreme Court hears it. It will make an excellent >> >> >campaign > > >>issue. >> >> >> >Liar. Most people do not want the current NSA program in place. Where >did you get that information? FUX News? > >*"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little >Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." >-- Benjamin Franklin > >* > > > >Washington Post. not exactly a Conservative news paper or one friendly to >the administration. Read for yourself. _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's >Efforts_ >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > And what question did they ask them? That's not in the article is it? I would like to see a survey of Americans with the question: "Do you believe President Bush is above the law?" I bet that would get way different results. That's what the issue is here anyway. He has broken existing laws and should be prosecuted for it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 8/18/06 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >*"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little >Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." >-- Benjamin Franklin > > > >Benjamin Franklin also said "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". Not >exactly an absolute truth IMHO. > Apples contain pectin and at the time folks constipation was probably a big problem. Pectin helps with constipation. Apparently you're willing to trash the Constitution to protect yourself against a few terrorists, eh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] FISA (was Re: Something fishy)
authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>--- authfriend wrote: >> >> >>>*Nobody* is against wiretapping suspected >>>terrorists, domestic or otherwise. >>> >>> >>What do the Bushies have against getting a court >>order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance >>Act? In all the kerfuffle, I've yet to hear why they >>don't want to follow the process already set up >>for such stuff. >> >> > >They claim it takes too long, but that's a crock; >they're explicitly allowed to wiretap without a >warrant for 48 hours (or is it 72?) exactly so >that getting a warrant won't impede an urgent >investigation. > >The *real* reason is they don't want to have any >restrictions at all; they want to be able to >wiretap anybody at any time whether they have >grounds for suspicion or not. It's the Imperial >Presidency, or the "Unitary Executive," as they >call it. To hell with checks and balances; that's >for sissies. > Exactly and I can't figure out why these "commoner" rightists would support Bush as it is against their own best interests. At least some of his former supporters have wised up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Local Foundation to Contract with TMO for Services
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > Being a grass roots effort, the foundation would run by a > > > "to-be-elected" board of directors (as stated somewhere in the > > > petition info). > > > > > > I would imagine that the people most active in promoting the petition, > > > and donating time and money, in addition to those most involved in > > > the discussions on the corresponding blog, will be strong candidates > > > to be on the Board. Elections would be by all those fulfilling pledges > > > (perhaps at a minimum of $20, and 5 hours of work). > > > > > > I imagine an inital Board would set up, from memeber / pledger > > > discussions, a set of guielines and foundation documents, etc. Within > > > several years, initial founders may then pass the torch to others -- > > > those who are most active, best able to integrate diverse needs, and > > > successful in fulfilling the foundations goals. > > > > > > The purpose of the foundation is to provide a vehicle for the > > > "disenfranchised", service-focussed and spiritual beings in FF, TMO > > > and other groups to pull together to provide a balanced and healing > > > force for soothing TMO excesses and harshness -- and provide a way for > > > all to participate, celebrate and serve in providing a group > > > conciousness field effect for world peace. > > > > > > > > > > I think such a thing already exists or will soon: it's called the > local TM centers (Peace > > Palaces) and the forthcoming local flying halls. > > > GREAT! I have been out of touch I guess. So these Peace Palaces will: > > 1) allow any sidhas to participate in programs in the DOMES or the > peace palaces without any interogation of life outside the domes / palace? The Domes is a law unto themselves. The projected local flying halls in Fairfield and the local Pece Palaces are apparently to be far more liveral. > > 2) have a clear, detailed, immeidate and fully transparent accounting > of all donations? Er, you read too much into what I said, though I'm guessing that donations to the local organization will be easier to keep track of. > > 3) treat all sidhas with repect, dignity and as adults? > I stay on the periphery of the TMO, so I don't have the experiences of many who interact with the TMO in Fairfield. Certainly, I've seen petty ego stuff on the part of various local center chairmen/women where they like to play mini-Maharishi, but fortunately, the currentl Chair-couple in Tucson, Densice and Joseph Gerace, don't seem to have those issues. > When did all this happen? > I was only commenting on the more lax rules for flying participation in the Peace Palaces and (I would expect) in the Fairfield flying halls, sorry for the confusion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hernia and brahmacarya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently noticed have got a small (abdominal?) > hernia. Oddly enough, it seems to help me > stay uurdhvaretaH! :0 > Don't gain large amounts of weight or you'll find you have a large hernia also. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > *"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin > > > > "Spinoza and Leibniz, born within a few years of each other, both > recognized and wrote about man's immortality and the process of > evolution through reincarnation. Concurrently, similar ideas held the > attention of other great minds. Voltaire in France, Benjamin Franklin > and Thomas Paine in America, Kant, Herder and Lessing in Germany, Hume > and Pope in England were all men of the eighteenth century, the age of > enlightenment and the predominance of rationalism. They all believed in > the notion of rebirth. Voltaire wrote: "The doctrine of metempsychosis > is, above all, neither absurd nor useless...It is not more surprising > to be born twice than once; everything in nature is resurrection." > > According to Benjamin Creme, Benjamin Franklin is currently in > incarnation, living in Washington DC. > Isn't everyone who ever lived, save the non-returnees, reincarnated? That good ole Ben is living in DC shouldn't be surprising--he had a thing about being in the centers of political power and liked the women who hung out there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least here > in > > > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > > > > > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines stand > > > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular > citizen > > > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy saints > and > > > stuff. > > > > > > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of the > > > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > Apparently not. Thats why we need to create new rules, a new > paradigm, > > appropriate for the current times -- not the past command and > control > > structures of "kali-yuga". > > > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/535780035 > > > > We can thrash about and gnash our teeth about how the TMO should be > > less anal, more humane, more accountable etc. Or we can do something > > mature and responsible about it. > > > > Create our own foundation to: > > > > - Control donations, accountability and management of to any ME or > TMO > > project > > > > - provide a power block to negotiate contracts and new "rules" with > > the TMO > > > > - create new group-consciousness-for-peace facilities, programs, > rules > > (and perhaps worldwide "synchtimes" via wedsites, alerts, etc.) > > Your idealism comes forth (perhaps, haven't made up my mind yet :-)) > as something good. But you miss one central point; what happens > within/outside the TMO, the effects, the frustration, the success and > the failure is all Maharishis Lila. > > What is happening now is a great drama which Maharishi is > orchestrating. He is at the helm. > > Establishing a new organisation or foundation to try to "balance" > this cosmic force, without that cosmic intelligence, will, I'm sorry > to say, be a dry and fruitless matter. > Isn't this Chopra's goal? He's rumored to be on the verge of offring the sidhis instruction anyway. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aug 15 - A day of victory - Letter from Raja John Konhaus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- curtisdeltablues > > wrote: > > > > > "Dear Recertified Governors, Governors, Sidhas and > > > Meditators in the > > > Domain of Raja John Konhaus," > > > > > > Read the above line slowly - I'm not sure whether to > > > laugh or cry. > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > PS. time yet to recertify Sidhas? > > > > > > > > > We are all living in some Raja's domain? These guys > > > are the nails in > > > the movement's coffin. Delusional putzes! > > > > Their penises are deluded? Penises are usually quite > > grounded and on-task 24/7. > > > > > ...not unless you're cardemeister and your penis is out of > commission due to a hernia and urdvareta. Depends on what kind of hernia. Umbilical hernias don't do nothing except make you look funny. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in place > > and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/ AR2006051200375_pf.html) > Most Americans obviously don't understand the issue. The issue is not between having wiretaps and not-having wiretaps, but between asking for a judges permission within 48 hours AFTER the start of the wiretap, and simply ignoring the law. If the poll were correct in its conclusion, the American people would be saying that they want the President to ignore the law for no reason since it is always possible to obtain the judge's permission. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Getting to the Church on Time...' on 8/19/06 9:04 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on returning to Madison, this Tuesday, by bus; But since this announcement, by Maharishi, and John; I should just come to Fairfield, I should guess... I hope there's a place to stay, as John said; Kind of broke right now... P.S. You can fly roundtrip from Seattle to Kansas City for $143, and it’s only 4 hours from KC to FF. Beats coming by bus. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Getting to the Church on Time...' on 8/19/06 9:04 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on returning to Madison, this Tuesday, by bus; But since this announcement, by Maharishi, and John; I should just come to Fairfield, I should guess... I hope there's a place to stay, as John said; Kind of broke right now... It’s a long bus ride from Seattle. If you’re still alive when you get here, get in touch. You might enjoy one of our Wednesday Night Satsangs. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Local Foundation to Contract with TMO for Services
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > > Being a grass roots effort, the foundation would run by a > > > > "to-be-elected" board of directors (as stated somewhere in the > > > > petition info). > > > > > > > > I would imagine that the people most active in promoting the petition, > > > > and donating time and money, in addition to those most involved in > > > > the discussions on the corresponding blog, will be strong candidates > > > > to be on the Board. Elections would be by all those fulfilling pledges > > > > (perhaps at a minimum of $20, and 5 hours of work). > > > > > > > > I imagine an inital Board would set up, from memeber / pledger > > > > discussions, a set of guielines and foundation documents, etc. Within > > > > several years, initial founders may then pass the torch to others -- > > > > those who are most active, best able to integrate diverse needs, and > > > > successful in fulfilling the foundations goals. > > > > > > > > The purpose of the foundation is to provide a vehicle for the > > > > "disenfranchised", service-focussed and spiritual beings in FF, TMO > > > > and other groups to pull together to provide a balanced and healing > > > > force for soothing TMO excesses and harshness -- and provide a way for > > > > all to participate, celebrate and serve in providing a group > > > > conciousness field effect for world peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think such a thing already exists or will soon: it's called the > > local TM centers (Peace > > > Palaces) and the forthcoming local flying halls. > > > > > > GREAT! I have been out of touch I guess. So these Peace Palaces will: > > > > 1) allow any sidhas to participate in programs in the DOMES or the > > peace palaces without any interogation of life outside the domes / palace? > > The Domes is a law unto themselves. The projected local flying halls in Fairfield and the > local Pece Palaces are apparently to be far more liveral. > > > > > 2) have a clear, detailed, immeidate and fully transparent accounting > > of all donations? > > Er, you read too much into what I said, though I'm guessing that donations to the local > organization will be easier to keep track of. > > > > > 3) treat all sidhas with repect, dignity and as adults? > > > > I stay on the periphery of the TMO, so I don't have the experiences of many who interact > with the TMO in Fairfield. Certainly, I've seen petty ego stuff on the part of various local > center chairmen/women where they like to play mini-Maharishi, but fortunately, the > currentl Chair-couple in Tucson, Densice and Joseph Gerace, don't seem to have those > issues. > > > > When did all this happen? > > > > I was only commenting on the more lax rules for flying participation in the Peace Palaces > and (I would expect) in the Fairfield flying halls, sorry for the confusion. > It's a matter of perspective. What you see as ego-stuff, from my perspective is more like 'royally screwed'. Talk about negative or reverse loyalty. Gotta chuckle though. JohnY In the domain of somebody...or another To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/18/06 10:19 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: > > > > >> > Tonight there now seems to be a phone campaign on at least > here in > > >> > FF to get wayward friends to register for the dome programs. > > >> > > > >> > Hagelin's 'office' had told Shivama that the old guidelines > stand > > >> > and have instead been enlarged to also include just regular > citizen > > >> > sidhas as part of a ban on people having seen other holy > saints and > > >> > stuff. > > >> > > > >> > Any real progress on amending the participation guidelines of > the > > >> > TMorg with this new earnest initiative? > > > > > > > At least once a day I get called or emailed or approached on the > street by > > people trying to get me to go to the dome. The person who called > last night > > said that the course office had encouraged everyone to call their > friends, > > even people who previously had not been allowed in the dome, and > that ³only > > about 1% of the people are still being refused for personal > reasons.² If the > > course office announces that their new policy is to ask people to > agree to > > do nothing other than Maharishi¹s techniques in the dome, and that > they > > won¹t concern themselves with anything other than that, I¹ll > consider > > applying. > > > It will be their gain is they let you go; their loss if they don't. > > Good luck. It will be your gain if they let you go; our loss if they don't. Good luck To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >In a message dated 8/18/06 11:18:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > And isn't it interesting how much time the major networks > > devoted to this as compared to the court decision on > > wiretaps which is by far more important. > >> > >> No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > >> place and it is still going on while it is appealed. So > >> nothing has really changed and probably won't till the Supreme > >> Court hears it. It will make an excellent campaign issue. > >> > > Liar. Most people do not want the current NSA program in place. > > Where did you get that information? FUX News? > > > > Washington Post. not exactly a Conservative news paper or one > > friendly to the administration. Read for yourself. _Poll: Most > > Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > >(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > And what question did they ask them? Bingo. > That's not in the article is it? Actually, there's a link in the article to a page with the questions that were asked. WARRANTLESS wiretapping--the issue in the court case-- was not even mentioned. MDixon made it clear he was referring to the issue in the court case; but then to prove his assertion that a majority of Americans approve, cited a poll that completely failed to ask about that issue. > I would like to see a survey of Americans with the question: > "Do you believe President Bush is above the law?" I bet that > would get way different results. When Americans are asked whether they approve of WARRANTLESS wiretapping--the issue in the court case--a majority say they do NOT approve. > That's what the issue is here anyway. Of course it is. And obscuring this distinction-- between court-ordered and WARRANTLESS wiretapping-- is standard Republican dishonesty, the kind that got Bush elected in the first place. > He has broken existing laws and should be prosecuted > for it. The whole kit and caboodle of them should be prosecuted for lying to the American people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > place > > > and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > Gee. > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > Another poll says: http://www.democrats.com/node/7416/print 1]For Release: January 16, 2006 New Zogby Poll Shows Majority of Americans Support Impeaching Bush for Wiretapping By a margin of 52% to 43%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge's approval, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org [1], a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Important Info Mr. President, of Iran..'
'Lessons from the Last World war: http://www.deathcamps.org/ How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Getting to the Church on Time...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > > It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just > come > > together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what > > hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. > > > > What worked during the Cuba Crises? > Are you talking about 1962? > Was there a 'Super-Radiance course in the dome; > In 1962? > I don't follow?...what Cuba Crises? Maharishi on an island, I belive it was Santa Catalina (?), with a group of americans. They where told to meditate as much as possible during a week of the crises. All went well, as it will now if you get 1700 in the domes. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/ > AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > Most Americans obviously don't understand the issue. Of course they don't. Why should they? The Republicans are lying to them, and the media isn't bothering to correct the lie. The issue is not between having > wiretaps and not-having wiretaps, but between asking for a judges > permission within 48 hours AFTER the start of the wiretap, and > simply ignoring the law. > > If the poll were correct in its conclusion, the American people > would be saying that they want the President to ignore the law for > no reason since it is always possible to obtain the judge's > permission. The poll didn't mention WARRANTLESS wiretapping. When people are asked specifically whether they approve of WARRANTLESS wiretapping--the issue in the court case--a majority does NOT approve. The scam the Republicans are trying to perpetrate is utterly shameless. And the "liberal" Washington Post went dutifully right along with it. So, unfortunately, did MDixon. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Poll
Should the President of the United States be required to follow laws made by Congress, as long as those laws are Constitutional? Yes, No, It depends. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
Do not listen these little voices thinking on who`s winning or who`s loosing.Everyone is winning when more and more people come to fly together in the Dome.This is time for open heart and mind for everyone, this is time for togetherness, friendliness and broad and universal vision.The world is asking us to do the most possible for the world peace.We are those who know that, and we will do the best with our knowledge which we got from our Master and our Holy Tradition.Come everyone, and let us do the best what we can for our world.Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:on 8/19/06 12:44 PM, chaim_laib at [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: > Rick > > Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a victory, > for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick > Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly > get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return > of the Prodigal Son." > > You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice > that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but > wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from Amma and > going back to your TM mantra? > > You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your > program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the > overall grand scheme of world peace? > > "To thine own self be true." > -W. Shakespeare > > "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay > centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate." > -Chuang Tsu I concur with what you said, and thanks for the nice quotes. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario, which will actualize when pigs fly, in which the course office would decide not to concern themselves with peoples lives any longer. So if that happened and I did end up going I dont think people would see it as a victory for the old way of doing things. But as you say, I enjoy my practice as it is, so it aint gonna happen. Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: The saddest post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > So, if these are the rules, then so be it. > > > Everyone is playing out some part, as Shakespeare said. > > > R.G. Seattle, Washington. > > > > It worked during the Cuba Crises - it will work now if you just > come > > together in the Dome. If you don't, there is no garantee what > > hardships you will have to endure. Nature is angry. > > > > This is so sad. > > This TM cultist has now become a fundamentalist Christian: accept > Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior or you will burn in > hell forever... > > ...is replaced by... > > ...unless you come to the Dome, there are untold hardships that will > be visited upon you. Nature is angry... > > In other words, follow the Maharishi out of fear, not out of > conviction or genuine desire to help out the world at this perilous > time. > > The TMO Trinity: Fear, exclusion, intolerance. > > I weep. Well that's a peculiar interpretation. Maharishi doesn't need followers, he is not trying to help the americans now because he needs it. You should be in the Domes for your own good, not for Maharishi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another poll says: > > http://www.democrats.com/node/7416/print > > 1]For Release: January 16, 2006 > > New Zogby Poll Shows Majority of Americans Support Impeaching Bush > for Wiretapping *Warrantless* wiretapping. I pointed this out to MDixon, to absolutely no effect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Madonna Urged To Avoid Arrest in Germany'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reality check: > > 1) This is all for publicity. Madonna would pay $5 million to > guarantee that they would arrest her. Like Tommy Chong's stint in > jail, it's the best thing that could happen to her at this point in > her career. > > 2) She's a fucking hypocrite. Don't you remember her negative > comments against Sinead O'Conner when she tore up that photograph of > the Pope on Saturday Night Live a decade or so ago? The flac she > got from all quarters pretty much put O'Conner's career into a > tailspin that she never quite recovered from. So you believe that it is blasphemous for her to be up on a cross? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > a liar. > > > > Your choice. > > > MDixon: > > Now you know why Turquoise almost went into a mental hospital. > This forum should be known as Attachments R Us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 10:13:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > > > > > In [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , > > > MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight > Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > --- In _FairfieldLife@ --- In _Fairfiel > > > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ) > > > > , MDixon6569@, MDi > > > > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program in > > > > > place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > (_http://www.washingthttp://www.htt_ > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-) > > > dyn/content/dyn/content/dyn/content/ > > > > > Gee. > > > > > > I wonder if Judy will say: "I stand corrected." > > > > > > Hell, frozen over...NOT. > > > > > > Shemp, I'm not holding my breath. > > > > Of course you're not holding your breath. You know and I > > know (although Shemp probably doesn't) that the poll you > > cite did not find what you misleadingly imply it found. > > > > The relevant words are all in what you've quoted above > > from your post and my post, MDixon. There's no way for > > you to wiggle out of it. > > > > I'm going to give you a chance to amend your assertion > > to reflect the facts. If you don't, I'll expose you as > > a liar. > > > > That's his choice? > > He's either a liar or he's wrong and has to amend his assertion? > > Even when it's quite clear to virtually any sane person who reads > this debate that he's right and you're wrong? > > There's no middle ground? > > It's not even possible that MDixon made an innocent mistake...he's > just a flat out liar? > > What is it in you, Judy, that makes you fill this forum with such > hate? > > Actually, Judy is closer to being right on this than you and MDixon. Answer MY poll honestly, if you dare. > > > > > Your choice. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Poll
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should the President of the United States be required to > follow laws made by Congress, as long as those laws are > Constitutional? > > Yes, No, It depends. Yes. As the judge who ruled warrantless wiretapping unconstitutional pointed out, the president himself is a creature of the Constitution; he isn't somehow above it. He doesn't get to pick and choose which constitutional laws he's going to follow and which not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?
This is not the right venue to post your nice thought. It should be going over to the Capital of the Age of Enlightenment-they are the ones who are doing the rejecting. Your attitude is the very one people complain about---"we're the great ones" except when we reject and ban all those who follow their own personal nature. Chaim L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do not listen these little voices thinking on who`s winning or who`s loosing. > Everyone is winning when more and more people come to fly together in the Dome. > This is time for open heart and mind for everyone, this is time for togetherness, friendliness and broad and universal vision. > The world is asking us to do the most possible for the world peace. > We are those who know that, and we will do the best with our knowledge which we got from our Master and our Holy Tradition. > Come everyone, and let us do the best what we can for our world. > > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 8/19/06 12:44 PM, chaim_laib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Rick > > > > Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a victory, > > for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick > > Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly > > get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return > > of the Prodigal Son." > > > > You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice > > that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but > > wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from Amma and > > going back to your TM mantra? > > > > You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your > > program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the > > overall grand scheme of world peace? > > > > "To thine own self be true." > > -W. Shakespeare > > > > "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay > > centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate." > > -Chuang Tsu > > I concur with what you said, and thanks for the nice quotes. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario, which will actualize when pigs fly, in which the course office would decide not to concern themselves with people's lives any longer. So if that happened and I did end up going I don't think people would see it as a victory for the old way of doing things. But as you say, I enjoy my practice as it is, so it ain't gonna happen. > > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/