[FairfieldLife] Re: Off_World - scary prediction, or, in the right place, right time?

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> PREDICTION Nov. 26th 2007
> POST # 156092
> on FFL
> 
> Whatever, you want to believe about this is up to you, but on 
> November 26th 2007, I stuck my neck out here on FFL, and made a 
> prediction. 
> 
> I literally had never heard of "Lyoto Machida" or anything like him 
> at that time, but if you read this prediction below that was posted 
> in post number 156092 on FFL, on Nov. 27, 2007, you will see that I 
> predicted it.
> 
> NOTE: 
> On that day, after a fair amount of argument with you guys, I still 
> knew I was right on this, but I had no proof. Now, I fukin' hate 
God, 
> and all religion, but I literally prayed to God that night to show 
a 
> sign that this was true...and LITERALLY...that same night...I 
> searched the MMA on YouTube and (to me, almost miraculously, and 
very 
> quickly ) found 'Lyoto Machida'. I had never heard of him until 
that 
> moment. 
> 
> You can believe what you want, but the above is true, and it was 
> before I ever heard of any Shotokan person in UFC (I had only just 
a 
> few days before learned what the UFC actually was ! ), and I had 
not 
> heard of any Shotokan person associated with it. (All respect to 
Jyu 
> Jitsu by the way, as I am not putting it down anymore) 
> 
> Here below is the quote from the post, when I had only just found 
out 
> what the UFC actually was, and predicted then, that one day, a 
> Shotokan trained fighter would come and teach them all. I prayed 
that 
> night to a God I almost hate, and then Lyota shows up immediatley, 
in 
> a random search for "shotokan UFC" Far quicker than I predicted ( I 
> was thinking in the next 5-10 years or so a shotokan figher would 
> turn up to teach the world in this sport)
> 
> Wow...here is the quote below from the Nov. 26 2007 post here on 
FFL:
> 
> "Shotokan dominates Martial Arts, and almost all Shotokan experts 
are
> totally humble.
> -snip-
> ""The only thing more powerful than thatpure transcendental
> consiousness.
> - snip-
> ""...I therefore predict that one day you will see a true Shotokan 
> master enter your babies Octagon. Silence will enfold the world at 
> that point and the monstor on steroids that you hold so 
> highlywill be annihilated.""
> 
> ""This day will come, and you will see it. That is my prediction, 
and
> you will be awestruck.""
> --OffWorld""
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/156092
> 
> 
> OffWorld


...and here he is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wef55taUSyU

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Off_World - scary prediction, or, in the right place, right time?

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
PREDICTION Nov. 26th 2007
POST # 156092
on FFL

Whatever, you want to believe about this is up to you, but on 
November 26th 2007, I stuck my neck out here on FFL, and made a 
prediction. 

I literally had never heard of "Lyoto Machida" or anything like him 
at that time, but if you read this prediction below that was posted 
in post number 156092 on FFL, on Nov. 27, 2007, you will see that I 
predicted it.

NOTE: 
On that day, after a fair amount of argument with you guys, I still 
knew I was right on this, but I had no proof. Now, I fukin' hate God, 
and all religion, but I literally prayed to God that night to show a 
sign that this was true...and LITERALLY...that same night...I 
searched the MMA on YouTube and (to me, almost miraculously, and very 
quickly ) found 'Lyoto Machida'. I had never heard of him until that 
moment. 

You can believe what you want, but the above is true, and it was 
before I ever heard of any Shotokan person in UFC (I had only just a 
few days before learned what the UFC actually was ! ), and I had not 
heard of any Shotokan person associated with it. (All respect to Jyu 
Jitsu by the way, as I am not putting it down anymore) 

Here below is the quote from the post, when I had only just found out 
what the UFC actually was, and predicted then, that one day, a 
Shotokan trained fighter would come and teach them all. I prayed that 
night to a God I almost hate, and then Lyota shows up immediatley, in 
a random search for "shotokan UFC" Far quicker than I predicted ( I 
was thinking in the next 5-10 years or so a shotokan figher would 
turn up to teach the world in this sport)

Wow...here is the quote below from the Nov. 26 2007 post here on FFL:

"Shotokan dominates Martial Arts, and almost all Shotokan experts are
totally humble.
-snip-
""The only thing more powerful than thatpure transcendental
consiousness.
- snip-
""...I therefore predict that one day you will see a true Shotokan 
master enter your babies Octagon. Silence will enfold the world at 
that point and the monstor on steroids that you hold so 
highlywill be annihilated.""

""This day will come, and you will see it. That is my prediction, and
you will be awestruck.""
--OffWorld""
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/156092


OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > >  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> > > > > conservative 
> > > > > > records:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The second from a right-winger:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > > > > > for_hillary
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu 
or 
> > > Robert 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing 
source:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and 
continue 
> on 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  
> > Why, 
> > > to 
> > > > > > take an alternative position would mean that you would 
> > actually 
> > > > > > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Funny, because triangulating from these three
> > > > > pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> > > > > is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
> > > > 
> > > > Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the 
fastest
> > > > known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
> > > > time you posted.
> > > 
> > > Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
> > > long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
> > > the last half of the third one, though.
> > > 
> > > > Nice try.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
> > > > articles show anything but what I suggested.
> > > 
> > > Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
> > > they said.
> > 
> > Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
> > apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too 
difficult 
> > for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist 
Democrats.
> > 
> > I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
> > triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.
> 
> Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
> recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
> the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
> neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
> mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.
>

Yep...and his basic liberal positions he took in the Oval office with 
Monica are what most of us Celts consider everyday divine 
behaviour.and as God/Goddess willed it. 

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/erotica/khaju.htm

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Machida - Heart of Shotokan

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
Lyota Machida...unlike any of the other UFC arrogant goons.

Heart of Shotokan...humble and pureand excellent.
- Heart of Shotokan:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wef55taUSyU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-EQozpH4Jyg

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> wrote:
> 
> > I would be 
> > really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 
6oz. 
> > glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no 
difference 
> > in the experience of deep meditation.
> 
> If you drink right before you meditate, of course
> you're going to feel a difference. But alcohol gets
> metabolized by the system fairly quickly, so if you
> have a shot or two of something before you go to
> bed, say, at least in my experience, it doesn't
> affect meditation the next morning. Sometimes I
> have a drink before bed, sometimes I don't, and I've
> never noticed any difference.
> 
> FWIW, a former boyfriend of mine who was a TMer
> would have profound witnessing experiences if he so
> much as drank a glass of beer. That's never
> happened to me!
> 
> Very different with pot, again in my experience
> (many years ago).



My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.




[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > >  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> > > > > conservative 
> > > > > > records:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The second from a right-winger:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > > > > > for_hillary
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu 
or 
> > > Robert 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing 
source:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and 
continue 
> on 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  
> > Why, 
> > > to 
> > > > > > take an alternative position would mean that you would 
> > actually 
> > > > > > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Funny, because triangulating from these three
> > > > > pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> > > > > is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
> > > > 
> > > > Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the 
fastest
> > > > known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
> > > > time you posted.
> > > 
> > > Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
> > > long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
> > > the last half of the third one, though.
> > > 
> > > > Nice try.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
> > > > articles show anything but what I suggested.
> > > 
> > > Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
> > > they said.
> > 
> > Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
> > apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too 
difficult 
> > for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist 
Democrats.
> > 
> > I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
> > triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.
> 
> Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
> recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
> the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
> neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
> mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.
> 
> Nobody's saying he didn't take some relatively
> conservative positions, but he also took some
> relatively liberal positions.
> 
> Have you never heard of the DLC?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council
> 
> Notice who was the first chair of the DLC.



Just as I thought.  She couldn't come up with anything.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a friend on Purusha in India

2008-01-29 Thread Peter
Saturday, February 2nd.

--- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >As you may have heard, this is all happening
> now because it seems
> > Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn. 
> Maharishi seems to have 
> >been
> > in the hospital for some days during silence. 
> People in Vlodrop got
> > wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the
> body.  When they
> > heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in
> Vlodrop and listening 
> >to
> > the celebration, it was a very emotional time for
> everyone.  The Jan
> > 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in
> Silence was, I 
> >suppose,
> > designed to reassure people in the field.   And
> Raja John's latest
> > message that Maharishi is retiring "out of
> necessity" was very 
> >telling.
> 
> Hospital?  Yes, word around here was that Maharishi
> was taken to 
> hospital and spent some time in an oxygen tent
> during the first half 
> of January while he was in silence.  
> 
> Om, it goes to show only, you know, those oxygen
> levels they do 
> decrease to a point "twice as deep" as in deepest
> sleep during 
> meditation, according to some research.  He is back
> retired working 
> in his home and everything is fine, according to
> some.
> 
> Much needed fundraising for the TMmovement world
> peace projects 
> continues everywhere on behalf of Maharishi. 
> Business is as usual & 
> mind your own business.  Meditate faithfully and
> dive into activity.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev, 
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear +++
> > 
> >   Thanks for forwarding the message from Bevan. 
> If you have been
> > following the events around Jan 12th, you'll know
> a lot of changes 
> >are
> > taking place now.
> > 
> >   We finally got our new satellite dish up to
> watch the Jan. 12th
> > broadcasts.
> > Everyone listened very intently as Maharishi
> announced that he is
> > retiring, and seemingly has put everything in
> place for Maha Raja 
> Nader
> > Ram, his Rajas, and the 12 Ministers to take over
> all aspects of the
> > Movement's guidance and administration.  Maharishi
> has hinted at 
> this
> > several times of over the past years, but there
> was a real sense of
> > finality about it this time.  The underlying point
> of it all is 
> that he
> > has been telling us all to be Self-Sufficient and
> not rely on him so
> > much anymore.  We have the knowledge, we know what
> to do, and we 
> have
> > our programme.  So now only we have to hold fast
> to it.
> > 
> >As you may have heard, this is all happening
> now because it seems
> > Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn. 
> Maharishi seems to have 
> been
> > in the hospital for some days during silence. 
> People in Vlodrop got
> > wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the
> body.  When they
> > heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in
> Vlodrop and listening 
> to
> > the celebration, it was a very emotional time for
> everyone.  The Jan
> > 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in
> Silence was, I 
> suppose,
> > designed to reassure people in the field.   And
> Raja John's latest
> > message that Maharishi is retiring "out of
> necessity" was very 
> telling.
> > 
> >So we shall see what the year ahead brings us.
> It seems like 
> much of
> > the day to day running of the Movement will be
> done by others now.
> > Maharishi just said a few days ago that he would
> withdraw into 
> silence
> > to work on final commentaries of the Vedas.
> > 
> >  It will probably be a very significant year for
> the TM Movement 
> and all
> > of us.
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev
> >  
> > 
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> >
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> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Doug, it's been lucky for me and my brother and sister that 
our folks have shared their memories as thoroughly as they have, and 
that they're still available to resource despite their age.  It's 
impossible to imagine the hardships and violence that so many people 
in the 20th C. endured; I can't, at least.

The folks you mention below, and my folks, are incredibly resistant 
individuals, people of true character.  We've been lucky to know 
them.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, that's told very special.  Thanks, is a great story.  I 
showed 
> it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.
> 
> What life does bring.  What a great story of courage. That was 
only 
> 60 years ago all that happened.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> 
> 
> 
> I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
> Harriet Berman's mother here.
> It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
> player and active in her later life and such.  The un-expanded 
part 
> of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
> Poland.  I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw 
it.  
> Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
> journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if 
it 
> had come to be too late.  There seemed to be an untold character 
> story in the obituary.  Certainly some veterans of those times 
only 
> wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy.  
> 
> That generation is passing fast now.
> My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
> Dachau as US troops arrived and found it.  He has a scrap book 
with 
> photos and articles about it from then.  But now his own memory is 
> rickety and about all gone.
> 
> At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used 
book 
> about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in 
real 
> nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to 
the 
> book.  Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
> collection who seems to have been there.
> 
> In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man 
takes 
> care of appliances.  As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
> brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of 
all 
> civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
> during the war.  They traveled about as displaced civilians trying 
to 
> connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to 
the 
> German army and sent down to Austria.  As the war narrowed down, 
like 
> with this other story they were separated by the lines of 
occupation 
> and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations 
on 
> travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over 
to 
> the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
> I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing 
that 
> I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to 
me 
> directly.
> 
> My dad had his stories from then too.  He is gone now and the 
> liveliness of those stories with him.  I remember some of them but 
> not the way he told them.
> 
> -Doug in FF  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > "Marek Reavis"  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally 
interesting.  
> > And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently 
haven't 
> > diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and 
every 
> > life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to 
enrich 
> > every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
> with 
> > a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
> > 
> > Marek
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told 
last 
> > year 
> > > > to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, 
accompanied 
> > with 
> > > > some inexpensive red wine.
> > > 
> > > Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your 
folks?  
> > What
> > > a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like 
this!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> > > > 
> > > > **
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I would be 
> really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz. 
> glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference 
> in the experience of deep meditation.

If you drink right before you meditate, of course
you're going to feel a difference. But alcohol gets
metabolized by the system fairly quickly, so if you
have a shot or two of something before you go to
bed, say, at least in my experience, it doesn't
affect meditation the next morning. Sometimes I
have a drink before bed, sometimes I don't, and I've
never noticed any difference.

FWIW, a former boyfriend of mine who was a TMer
would have profound witnessing experiences if he so
much as drank a glass of beer. That's never
happened to me!

Very different with pot, again in my experience
(many years ago).




[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> >  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> > > > conservative 
> > > > > records:
> > > > > 
> > > > > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > > > > 
> > > > > The second from a right-winger:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > > > > for_hillary
> > > > > 
> > > > > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
> > Robert 
> > > > the 
> > > > > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > > > > 
> > > > > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue 
on 
> > > with 
> > > > > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  
> Why, 
> > to 
> > > > > take an alternative position would mean that you would 
> actually 
> > > > > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> > > > 
> > > > Funny, because triangulating from these three
> > > > pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> > > > is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
> > > 
> > > Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
> > > known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
> > > time you posted.
> > 
> > Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
> > long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
> > the last half of the third one, though.
> > 
> > > Nice try.
> > > 
> > > Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
> > > articles show anything but what I suggested.
> > 
> > Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
> > they said.
> 
> Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
> apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too difficult 
> for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist Democrats.
> 
> I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
> triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.

Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.

Nobody's saying he didn't take some relatively
conservative positions, but he also took some
relatively liberal positions.

Have you never heard of the DLC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

Notice who was the first chair of the DLC.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Melbourne Maharishi School

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/28fc77
>

This is nice.  So earnest.  Do they have to send half of their tuitions 
to accounts overseas too?  Just wondering, or is that the TMmovement 
policy just for, rich Americans?

Jai Guru Dev, 
-Doug in FF



[FairfieldLife] Re: New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It looks like a wonderful building. A good answer to those who think
> the movement/University is dying.

Yes, it is a lovely facade like so many TMmovement buildings.

Jai Guru Dev, 

-Doug

 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect 
the 
> > new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
> > emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.
> > 
> > 
> > The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
> > lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance 
floor, 
> > mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, 
classroom 
> > space, exercise space and student government offices.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to 
build 
> > a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand 
building 
> > to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of 
the 
> > center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-
raising 
> > efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.
> > 
> > -From page of Fairfield Ledger
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
> > 1.28.2008
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Vaj wrote:

Author Ken Wilber claims to have been in continuous witnessing for  
years, but in one of his books (a spiritual diary of a years time)  
he claimed the witness was not experienced after drinking fair  
amounts of wine with his new girlfriend. On vacation--South Beach.


:-)


Actually he's able to even dissolve Witness after "vino" sessions:

"Each day we hit the beach around eleven A.M. and stay until around  
four P.M. This is truly one of the nicest beaches I've ever seen.  
Besides being pure sand--you can wade out forever and never hit a rock  
or shell--the water temperature is perfect, somewhere around eighty  
degrees so you never get chilled, no matter how long you stay in. And,  
as a matter of fact, I spend about three hours in the water each day,  
exactly up to my neck, gently bobbing up and down, tiptoes barely  
touching the bottom to hold me up. Marci, a champion swimmer, swims  
circles around me, literally. Where does that woman hide all her  
muscles? She's too curvaceous to be this athletic. Don't triathlon  
women have, like, 0% body fat? Actually, aren't they in negative fat  
space? Don't they like owe the world some fat?


I had fully expected to lose all access to the Witness, given our vino  
schcdule. And for the first night and day this happened. But floating  
in the water has not only brought back the Witness, it seems to have  
facilitated the disappearance of the Witness into nondual One Taste,  
at least on occasion. (The Witness, or pure witnessing awareness,  
tends to be of the causal, since there is usually a primitive trace of  
subject/object duality you equanimously Witness the world as  
transparent and shimmering object But with further development, the  
Witness itself disappears into everything that is witnessed, subject  
and object become One Taste, or simple Suchness, and this is the  
nondual estate. In short: ego to soul to pure Witness to One Taste.)  
So I am utterly, pleasantly surprised, floating here in nature's  
blood, to be dipped Into One Taste which in Case, is nicely salty.


There is no time in this estate, though time passes through it.  
thoughts float by in the sky, thoughts float by in the mind, waves  
float by in the ocean, and I am all of that. I am looking at none of  
it, for there is no center around which perception is organized. It is  
simply that everything is arising, moment to moment, and I am all of  
that. I do not see the sky, I am the sky, which sees itself. I do not  
feel the ocean, I am the ocean, which feels itself. I do not hear the  
birds, I am the birds, which hear themselves. There is nothing outside  
of me, there is nothing inside of me, because there is no me--there is  
simply all of this, and it has always been so. Nothing pushes me,  
nothing pulls me, because there is no me there is simply all of this,  
and it has always been so."


Ken Wilber, One Taste: Daily Reflections on Integral Spirituality;  
Shambhala [Sunday, May 18th, South Beach]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread feste37
The Goethe poem is a favorite of mine; Schubert set it to music and
made it even more moving.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's a Buchenwald story for you.  When the Allies liberated
Buchenwald, it became part of the Russian gulag, and the Russian
occupation army filled it back up with prisoners under pretty much the
same horrible conditions that had tortured and killed so many Jews
there.  But this time the prisoners were not Jews, they were Germans,
and my aunt Maria did time there for nine years.  
> 
> The name, "Buchenwald" means "beech forest," and it had indeed been
a beech forest once upon a time when the great 19th century German
poet, Goethe, liked to take walks there.  The forest is mostly gone
now, but one centuries-old beech tree had survived, standing in the
middle of the courtyard at Buchenwald the prison, and it had a plaque
with one of Goethe's most famous poems engraved on it:
>  
> Wanderer's Nachtlied
> 
> Ueber allen Gipfeln 
> Ist Ruh,
> In allen Wipfeln
> Spuerest du
> Kaum einen Hauch;
> Die Voegelein schweigen im Walde.
> Warte nur! Balde
> Ruhest du auch.
> 
> The Wanderer's Night Song
> 
> Above all mountain tops
> is peace,
> In all the tree tops
> you feel
> hardly a breath;
> birds are silent in their nests,
> But wait!  Soon
> you, too, shall rest. 
> 
> My aunt told me that this tree and its poem were of immeasurable
comfort to her and to the other prisoners at Buchenwald, but when the
prison guards learned of this, they cut it down.
> 
> 
>  
> - Original Message 
> From: dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:34:52 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life
> 
> Yes, that's told very special. Thanks, is a great story. I showed 
> it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.
> 
> What life does bring. What a great story of courage. That was only 
> 60 years ago all that happened.
> 
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> 
> I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
> Harriet Berman's mother here.
> It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
> player and active in her later life and such. The un-expanded part 
> of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
> Poland. I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it. 
> Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
> journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
> had come to be too late. There seemed to be an untold character 
> story in the obituary. Certainly some veterans of those times only 
> wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy. 
> 
> That generation is passing fast now.
> My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
> Dachau as US troops arrived and found it. He has a scrap book with 
> photos and articles about it from then. But now his own memory is 
> rickety and about all gone.
> 
> At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
> about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
> nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
> book. Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
> collection who seems to have been there.
> 
> In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
> care of appliances. As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
> brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
> civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
> during the war. They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
> connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
> German army and sent down to Austria. As the war narrowed down, like 
> with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
> and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
> travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
> the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
> I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
> I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
> directly.
> 
> My dad had his stories from then too. He is gone now and the 
> liveliness of those stories with him. I remember some of them but 
> not the way he told them.
> 
> -Doug in FF 
> 
> > "Marek Reavis"  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting. 
> > And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
> > diminished their capacities too much. It's just a life and every 
> > life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
> > every day. I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
> with 
> > a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
> > 
> > Marek
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000

Could be the beef commerical, or maybe the VISA commerical.

One bottle very dry Virginia wine $14.00.  One bottle Czech Pilslner
$8.00.

Chatting with your old man about South Pacific Theatre--Priceless



> > This is just too good Curtis. This piece needs wider distribution.
It
> > is along the lines of that great commericial, "Beef, It's Whats For
> > Dinner", with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment
>
> Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor my
> show! I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children next.
> (hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)
>
>
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an
anesthetic
> > > > it creates dullness.
> > >
> > > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> > > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
> > > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too
much,
> > > and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set
and
> > > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a
part
> > > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > >
> > > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> > > background.
> > >
> > > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> > > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and
have
> > > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > >
> > > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> > > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > >
> > > A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while
eating
> > > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > >
> > > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how
they
> > > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating
sheep
> > > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's
olive
> > > harvest.
> > >
> > > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your
Vietnamese
> > > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > >
> > > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> > >
> > > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating
home
> > > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > >
> > > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> > > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > >
> > > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya.
(limes,sugar
> > > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching
World
> > > Cup soccer.
> > >
> > > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the
occupation of
> > > Japan.
> > >
> > > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams,
with a
> > > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> > >
> > > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> > > while the snow falls outside.
> > >
> > > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> > > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> > > connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
> > > It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.
You
> > > may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to
associate
> > > it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
> > conversation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
> > brain-
> > > > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol
abuse
> > > > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
> > > > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction
caused
> > > > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages.
Even
> > > > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult
for
> > > > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug,
ethanol
> > > > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much
in
> > > > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> > > > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
> > > >
> > > > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider 
distribution.   It
> > is along the lines of that great commericial,  "Beef, It's Whats 
For
> > Dinner",  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment
> 
> Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor 
my
> show!  I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children 
next.
> (hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)



I went through a phase when I was about 7 years old when I wouldn't 
eat anything and my doctor told my mother to give me a shot of brandy 
(perhaps cut with something, I can't remember) about an hour before 
supper.

Well, I sat down for dinner at the alloted time and promptly fell 
asleep in the mashed potatoes.

If "There will be blood" reflects the times, the Daniel Day-Lewis 
character gives his son alcohol along with his goat's milk...





> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
anesthetic
> > > > it creates dullness.
> > >
> > > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. 
If
> > > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the 
last
> > > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too 
much,
> > > and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the 
set and
> > > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a 
part
> > > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > >
> > > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in 
the
> > > background.
> > >
> > > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after 
your
> > > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and 
have
> > > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > >
> > > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who 
just
> > > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > >
> > > A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while 
eating
> > > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > >
> > > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how 
they
> > > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating 
sheep
> > > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's 
olive
> > > harvest.
> > >
> > > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
Vietnamese
> > > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > >
> > > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their 
horses.
> > >
> > > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating 
home
> > > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > >
> > > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over 
the
> > > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > >
> > > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. 
(limes,sugar
> > > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching 
World
> > > Cup soccer.
> > >
> > > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the 
occupation of
> > > Japan.
> > >
> > > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, 
with a
> > > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> > >
> > > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your 
girlfriend
> > > while the snow falls outside.
> > >
> > > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the 
shared
> > > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink 
that
> > > connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an 
attitude.
> > > It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special 
version. You
> > > may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to 
associate
> > > it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
> > conversation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an 
active
> > brain-
> > > > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
abuse
> > > > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the 
`social
> > > > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
caused
> > > > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic 
beverages. Even
> > > > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it 
difficult for
> > > > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
ethanol
> > > > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very 
much in
> > > > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly 
toxic.
> > > > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
> > > >
> > > > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:28 PM, suziezuzie wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

This thread started with an article that a few glasses of wine each
day with regular exercise is good for your heart. Unfortunately, it
became an argument over who is better, drinkers or none drinkers,
those who can enjoy life or don't enjoy life, if alcohol has a role
in the 'glamour' of living or is alcohol a poison that dulls the
mind. I guess my point is, if someone chooses to meditate twice a day
and has good experiences, is it possible and recommended for TMers
according to the instruction, that it makes no difference to have two
6oz. glasses of wine each day? Will they continue to have good
experiences or not? Does the TMO not have any thing to say on this?
For me personally, if I drank two 6oz. glasses of wine every day, my
experience would be dramatically effected but that's me. I would be
really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz.
glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference
in the experience of deep meditation. I'm talking mainly about people
who never drank for sometime and then began to drink later on.



Author Ken Wilber claims to have been in continuous witnessing for  
years, but in one of his books (a spiritual diary of a years time) he  
claimed the witness was not experienced after drinking fair amounts of  
wine with his new girlfriend. On vacation--South Beach.


:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

This thread started with an article that a few glasses of wine each 
day with regular exercise is good for your heart. Unfortunately, it 
became an argument over who is better, drinkers or none drinkers, 
those who can enjoy life or don't enjoy life, if alcohol has a role 
in the 'glamour' of living or is alcohol a poison that dulls the 
mind. I guess my point is, if someone chooses to meditate twice a day 
and has good experiences, is it possible and recommended for TMers 
according to the instruction, that it makes no difference to have two 
6oz. glasses of wine each day? Will they continue to have good 
experiences or not? Does the TMO not have any thing to say on this? 
For me personally, if I drank two 6oz. glasses of wine every day, my 
experience would be dramatically effected but that's me. I would be 
really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz. 
glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference 
in the experience of deep meditation. I'm talking mainly about people 
who never drank for sometime and then began to drink later on.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider distribution.   It
> is along the lines of that great commericial,  "Beef, It's Whats For
> Dinner",  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment

Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor my
show!  I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children next.
(hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic
> > > it creates dullness.
> >
> > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
> > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> > and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set and
> > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a part
> > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> >
> > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> > background.
> >
> > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> >
> > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> >
> > A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> >
> > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> > harvest.
> >
> > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
> > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> >
> > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> >
> > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> >
> > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> >
> > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> > Cup soccer.
> >
> > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
> > Japan.
> >
> > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
> > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> >
> > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> > while the snow falls outside.
> >
> > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> > connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
> > It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version. You
> > may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to associate
> > it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
> conversation.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
> brain-
> > > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse
> > > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
> > > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused
> > > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even
> > > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for
> > > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol
> > > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in
> > > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> > > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
> > >
> > > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000


This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider distribution.   It
is along the lines of that great commericial,  "Beef, It's Whats For
Dinner",  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > >
> > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic
> > it creates dullness.
>
> I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
> attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set and
> setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a part
> of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
>
> A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> background.
>
> Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> many questions about what blues artists they should download.
>
> A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
>
> A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> Chesapeake Bay crabs.
>
> Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> harvest.
>
> Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
> friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
>
> A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
>
> Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
>
> Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> traditional meal she cooked for you.
>
> Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> Cup soccer.
>
> A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
> Japan.
>
> Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
> glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
>
> A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> while the snow falls outside.
>
> Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
> It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version. You
> may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to associate
> it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
conversation.
>
>
>
> >
> > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
brain-
> > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse
> > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
> > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused
> > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even
> > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for
> > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol
> > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in
> > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
> >
> > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread Angela Mailander
Here's a Buchenwald story for you.  When the Allies liberated Buchenwald, it 
became part of the Russian gulag, and the Russian occupation army filled it 
back up with prisoners under pretty much the same horrible conditions that had 
tortured and killed so many Jews there.  But this time the prisoners were not 
Jews, they were Germans, and my aunt Maria did time there for nine years.  

The name, "Buchenwald" means "beech forest," and it had indeed been a beech 
forest once upon a time when the great 19th century German poet, Goethe, liked 
to take walks there.  The forest is mostly gone now, but one centuries-old 
beech tree had survived, standing in the middle of the courtyard at Buchenwald 
the prison, and it had a plaque with one of Goethe's most famous poems engraved 
on it:
 
Wanderer's Nachtlied

Ueber allen Gipfeln 
Ist Ruh,
In allen Wipfeln
Spuerest du
Kaum einen Hauch;
Die Voegelein schweigen im Walde.
Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

The Wanderer's Night Song

Above all mountain tops
is peace,
In all the tree tops
you feel
hardly a breath;
birds are silent in their nests,
But wait!  Soon
you, too, shall rest. 

My aunt told me that this tree and its poem were of immeasurable comfort to her 
and to the other prisoners at Buchenwald, but when the prison guards learned of 
this, they cut it down.


 
- Original Message 
From: dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:34:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

Yes, that's told very special. Thanks, is a great story. I showed 
it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.

What life does bring. What a great story of courage. That was only 
60 years ago all that happened.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=w0HVg1kCpxU

I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
Harriet Berman's mother here.
It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
player and active in her later life and such. The un-expanded part 
of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
Poland. I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it. 
Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
had come to be too late. There seemed to be an untold character 
story in the obituary. Certainly some veterans of those times only 
wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy. 

That generation is passing fast now.
My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
Dachau as US troops arrived and found it. He has a scrap book with 
photos and articles about it from then. But now his own memory is 
rickety and about all gone.

At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
book. Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
collection who seems to have been there.

In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
care of appliances. As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
during the war. They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
German army and sent down to Austria. As the war narrowed down, like 
with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
directly.

My dad had his stories from then too. He is gone now and the 
liveliness of those stories with him. I remember some of them but 
not the way he told them.

-Doug in FF 

> "Marek Reavis"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting. 
> And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
> diminished their capacities too much. It's just a life and every 
> life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
> every day. I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
with 
> a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
> 
> Marek
> 
> **
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "Marek Reavis" 

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
> year 
> > > to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
> with 
> > > some inexpensive red wine.
> > 
> > Totally blown away! Thanks for sending this Marek

[FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes, that's told very special.  Thanks, is a great story.  I showed 
it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.

What life does bring.  What a great story of courage. That was only 
60 years ago all that happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU



I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
Harriet Berman's mother here.
It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
player and active in her later life and such.  The un-expanded part 
of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
Poland.  I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it.  
Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
had come to be too late.  There seemed to be an untold character 
story in the obituary.  Certainly some veterans of those times only 
wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy.  

That generation is passing fast now.
My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
Dachau as US troops arrived and found it.  He has a scrap book with 
photos and articles about it from then.  But now his own memory is 
rickety and about all gone.

At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
book.  Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
collection who seems to have been there.

In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
care of appliances.  As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
during the war.  They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
German army and sent down to Austria.  As the war narrowed down, like 
with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
directly.

My dad had his stories from then too.  He is gone now and the 
liveliness of those stories with him.  I remember some of them but 
not the way he told them.

-Doug in FF  





> "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting.  
> And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
> diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and every 
> life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
> every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
with 
> a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
> 
> Marek
> 
> **
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
> year 
> > > to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
> with 
> > > some inexpensive red wine.
> > 
> > Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  
> What
> > a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> > > 
> > > **




[FairfieldLife] Re: New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread feste37
It looks like a wonderful building. A good answer to those who think
the movement/University is dying. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect the 
> new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
> emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.
> 
> 
> The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
> lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance floor, 
> mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, classroom 
> space, exercise space and student government offices.
> 
> 
> 
> The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to build 
> a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand building 
> to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of the 
> center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-raising 
> efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.
> 
> -From page of Fairfield Ledger
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
> 1.28.2008
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> > > conservative 
> > > > records:
> > > > 
> > > > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > > > 
> > > > The second from a right-winger:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > > > for_hillary
> > > > 
> > > > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
> Robert 
> > > the 
> > > > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > > > 
> > > > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
> > with 
> > > > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  
Why, 
> to 
> > > > take an alternative position would mean that you would 
actually 
> > > > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> > > 
> > > Funny, because triangulating from these three
> > > pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> > > is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
> > 
> > Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
> > known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
> > time you posted.
> 
> Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
> long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
> the last half of the third one, though.
> 
> > Nice try.
> > 
> > Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
> > articles show anything but what I suggested.
> 
> Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
> they said.


Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too difficult 
for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist Democrats.

I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.

Put up or shut up.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Let the fun Begin!

2008-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 1/29/08 6:29:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John Hagelin "There is no one successor for the Maharishi,  but many people 
have trained to carry on his various tasks, Hagelin  said."





OFF WITH HIS HEAD!



**Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape. 
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489


[FairfieldLife] Let the fun Begin!

2008-01-29 Thread eghads
 http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/entertainment&id=5921221

 John Hagelin "There is no one successor for the Maharishi, but many
people have trained to carry on his various tasks, Hagelin said."


   he, he, he , he, he! ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha - E  [:))]  [:O]  [;)]



[FairfieldLife] FIRST "VEDIC-GREEN" STUDENT CENTER TO OPEN

2008-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT Fairfield, Iowa 52556 • 641-472-7000 
 Media Advisory Contact: Ken Chawkin
641-470-1314
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

America’s First “Vedic-Green” Student Center to Open
at Maharishi University of Management on Feb. 1 

$7.5 Million, 50,000 Sq. Ft. Building Incorporates
Ancient Design Principles with Modern Sustainable  Technologies 

Inaugural Ceremony • 12:30 PM • Press Invited
Argiro Student Center • MUM • Fairfield, Iowa 

AmericaÂ’s first university student center built according to the ancient
design principles of Maharishi Vedic Architecture along with the most
advanced green technologies will officially open its doors during grand
inaugural ceremonies at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield,
Iowa, on Friday, February 1, at 12:30 p.m.

The Argiro Student Center, a spacious, light-filled $7.5 million,
50,000-square-foot building, which faces east to “capture the nourishing
rays of the rising sun for greatest benefit to the occupants,” features two
dining halls, a banquet room, café, lounge, 300-seat auditorium, bookstore,
mailroom, and offices for student-related activities. The building also
includes a chandeliered entry lobby with vaulted ceilings almost three
stories high, as well as a large, stained glass window.

In addition to being constructed according to principles of Maharishi Vedic
Architecture—architecture in harmony with Natural Law—the Argiro Student
Center also incorporates a range of environmentally friendly features that
will qualify it for LEED certification.

“This building is an important part of the University’s commitment to be
more environmentally friendly, and to bring our buildings in accord with
Natural Law on all levels,” said Dr. Streid, the University’s Chief
Administrative Officer.

The Student Center is named for Dr. Vincent and Dr. Maggie Argiro,
University trustees and principal donors to the building. “We are delighted
to contribute to this great accomplishment of the University community,” Dr.
Maggie Argiro said. “The building is the stuff of dreams—dreams fulfilled,
dreams in progress, dreams yet to be born within its life-giving walls.”

Featured speakers at the inauguration include Dr. Bevan Morris, President of
Maharishi University of Management (videoconference); Dr. John Hagelin, Raja
of Invincible America and Director of the MUM Institute of Science,
Technology and Public Policy (videoconference); the Hon. Ed Malloy, Mayor of
Fairfield; Dr. Vincent and Dr. Maggie Argiro; Dr. Craig Pearson, University
Vice President; and Mariam Doudi, President of Global Student Council.

ARGIRO STUDENT CENTER 

Unique Vedic Architectural Design Elements
to Promote Life in Harmony with Natural Law 


Right Orientation: According to Maharishi Vedic Architecture, orientation of
a building has a dramatic and easily measured impact upon the quality of
life of its occupants. The sunÂ’s energy is most nourishing when it is
rising. The Argiro Student Center is oriented to the east to bring the
greatest benefits to the health and the vitality of its occupants.

Right Placement of Rooms: Because the sun has different qualities of energy
as it moves across the sky, the Argiro Student Center is designed so that
these energies correspond to the specific activities performed within the
different rooms of the building, e.g., dining, studying, socializing etc. 

Right Proportion: Proportion is a key to successful design in nature. Right
proportion in the Argiro Student Center connects the individual intelligence
of the occupants to cosmic intelligence.

Natural, Non-Toxic Materials and Solar Energy: Vedic architecture promotes
natural and non-toxic construction materials. It also emphasizes filling
rooms with sunlight and fresh air.

Green Design Elements to Qualify for LEED Certification 

*   Energy Efficiency: Energy savings in the Argiro Student Center come
from heat exchangers, which capture 80% of the heat from the air that is
being exhausted from the building and use it to help heat the incoming fresh
air. 
*   Daylighting: Large, triangular windows cast light deep into the
Argiro Student Center on the two upper floors. Daylighting sensors
automatically turn off the lights when enough daylight is present. The
buildingÂ’s cupola also helps reflect light into the atrium area. 
*   Insulation: The Argiro Student Center is insulated 50% better than
average. The heating and cooling systems also have a higher-than-normal
efficiency. 
*   Nontoxic Materials: The Argiro Student Center is constructed with
nontoxic materials, including over 13, 000 square feet of bamboo flooring.
Carpeting is green certified, and the flooring in the serving areas is
Marmoleum, which is a natural linoleum made with 100% natural ingredients:
linseed oil, cork, limestone, tree rosin, and natural minerals. 

ABOUT THE ARGIROS 

Dr. Vincent Argiro received his B.A. at Yale and his Ph.D. in neural
sciences from Washington University. He joined Maharishi University of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
I hear Rosemary Kennedy is supporting Dennis Kucinich.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
> kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story
> 
> From the Los Angeles Times
> 
> Kennedys for Clinton
> 
> She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members 
say.
> 
> By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry 
Kennedy
> 
> January 29, 2008
> 
> This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with 
the 
> most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
> would make superb presidents.
> 
> By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline 
Kennedy, 
> and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of 
Sen. 
> Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham 
Clinton 
> because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our 
party 
> and our country.
> 
> While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary 
of 
> divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
> issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
> America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our 
citizens 
> or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
> rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
> all and a clean, safe environment.
> 
> The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a 
president 
> willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
> national virtues.
> 
> We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
> case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her 
convictions 
> firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the 
face 
> of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
> seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
> principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy 
and 
> pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and 
most 
> democratic warrior.
> 
> She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
> battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights 
around 
> the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
> solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by 
changing 
> attitudes.
> 
> Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
> Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. 
Robert 
> F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
> right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
> upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
> persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
> American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
> leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
> solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.
> 
> We look forward to working beside her in the general election as 
she 
> uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
> affiliations across the nation.
> 
> Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
> including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
> voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
> poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance 
ourselves 
> as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.
> 
> She's been an equally effective champion for human rights and for 
> women's rights, a worldwide cause that will profit enormously by 
her 
> elevation to the presidency. She has worked for peace in Northern 
> Ireland and fought to bridge religious, racial and ethnic divides 
> from Bosnia to the Middle East to South Africa. She has shown a 
rare 
> understanding that American values can only be exported by moral 
> leadership, by a strong home economy and by a detailed 
understanding 
> of the history and cultural backdrops of the nations we engage.
> 
> She understands, as our current administration does not, the uses 
of 
> power. The world, she says, is hungry for U.S. leadership but will 
> not accept our bullying. She knows the difference and will 
> reestablish America's lost prestige and moral authority.
> 
> Hillary Clinton's political career has been centered in comforting 
> the afflicted, afflicting the comfortable and reminding Americans 
> what it means to be American. As a young lawyer, she focused on 
> children's issues and legal aid. As first lady of Arkansas, she 
> brought healthcare to rural areas and helped reform the state's 
> lagging education system.
> 
> As first lady, she courageously took on healthcare reform. When a 
> massive propaganda campaign by Big Pharma and the radical right 
> derailed her efforts, she didn't give up. She helped create the 
> nationally acclaimed Children's Health Ins

[FairfieldLife] New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect the 
new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.


The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance floor, 
mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, classroom 
space, exercise space and student government offices.



The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to build 
a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand building 
to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of the 
center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-raising 
efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.

-From page of Fairfield Ledger

http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
1.28.2008





[FairfieldLife] Dzogchen primer.

2008-01-29 Thread quantum packet


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[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Vaj, but we're all just members of the lucky sperm & egg club, 
born more or less into affluence and engendered with the desire, for 
some reason or another, to explore consciousness.  

My parents' history was so unique (and improbable) that for years I 
never shared it because I wanted to 'write' a story for myself that, at 
the very least, didn't diminish their own by association.  

Within a week after that taping (February '07) my mother fell and broke 
her hip while out walking her two greyhounds.  By April she was back 
out, on a cane, and by June was out walking them again everyday for a 
couple of miles.  My father does about a half-an-hour every other day 
on the stationary bike in the basement.  I can't say the alcohol 
helped, but it certainly doesn't seem to have hurt them too much.  

For me, alcohol has never been a draw, though I can appreciate a good  
wine or beer in the proper context.


Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
> 
> > here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year
> > to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with
> > some inexpensive red wine.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> 
> 
> I always knew there was something special about you! What a 
wonderful  
> story and historythanks so much for sharing this with all of us!
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread Duveyoung
That's a surprise -- I wudda thunk diff.

Maybe the Kennedys are just priming us all for the next presidential
race when Patrick or some other Kennedy runs for the office.  And so
they've decided to come out BIG and re-enliven the aura of Camelot --
then cash in on the renewal of the Kennedy mystic eight years from now.  

I'm just sayin!  

I mean, if YOU had a billion dollars and how much it grew or shrank
depended on having a lacky in office, what do you think it would be
worth to insure YOUR MONEY?maybe a show of family "umbrella-ness"
-- demonstrating who the core Democrat producing family is, and "stay
tuned for our next better-than-any-other candidate but meanwhile we
suggest this babe and dude."

I cried at Ted's speech, but it wasn't at all about the "loss" that
the assassinations cost America. It was this dream we all had that we
hoped the Kennedys would fulfill.  Obama is right smack up there in
the inspirational department -- Bobby would love his energy and
intent.  'Course, Bobby and Jack were doodling a drugged Marilyn and
sending Cubans to certain defeat and largely being not merely
camelotish but also cameloutish, and, hey, gotta say it, starting the
Viet Nam war too.

If Obama gets the nom, man is the exudation going to hit the twirly
thingie.  It won't be your father's swift-boating, it's going to be
out right ugly bone deep racism.  I got my first piece of junk mail
just today saying Obama is a Muslim and that only Christians are true
Americans.  PUKE!

Edg 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
> kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story
> 
> From the Los Angeles Times
> 
> Kennedys for Clinton
> 
> She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members say.
> 
> By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry Kennedy
> 
> January 29, 2008
> 
> This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with the 
> most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
> would make superb presidents.
> 
> By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline Kennedy, 
> and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of Sen. 
> Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton 
> because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our party 
> and our country.
> 
> While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary of 
> divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
> issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
> America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our citizens 
> or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
> rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
> all and a clean, safe environment.
> 
> The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a president 
> willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
> national virtues.
> 
> We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
> case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her convictions 
> firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the face 
> of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
> seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
> principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy and 
> pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and most 
> democratic warrior.
> 
> She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
> battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights around 
> the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
> solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by changing 
> attitudes.
> 
> Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
> Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. Robert 
> F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
> right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
> upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
> persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
> American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
> leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
> solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.
> 
> We look forward to working beside her in the general election as she 
> uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
> affiliations across the nation.
> 
> Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
> including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
> voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
> poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance ourselves 
> as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.
> 
> She's been 

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a friend on Purusha in India

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
>As you may have heard, this is all happening now because it seems
> Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn.  Maharishi seems to have 
>been
> in the hospital for some days during silence.  People in Vlodrop got
> wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the body.  When they
> heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in Vlodrop and listening 
>to
> the celebration, it was a very emotional time for everyone.  The Jan
> 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in Silence was, I 
>suppose,
> designed to reassure people in the field.   And Raja John's latest
> message that Maharishi is retiring "out of necessity" was very 
>telling.

Hospital?  Yes, word around here was that Maharishi was taken to 
hospital and spent some time in an oxygen tent during the first half 
of January while he was in silence.  

Om, it goes to show only, you know, those oxygen levels they do 
decrease to a point "twice as deep" as in deepest sleep during 
meditation, according to some research.  He is back retired working 
in his home and everything is fine, according to some.

Much needed fundraising for the TMmovement world peace projects 
continues everywhere on behalf of Maharishi.  Business is as usual & 
mind your own business.  Meditate faithfully and dive into activity.

Jai Guru Dev, 

-Doug in FF




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear +++
> 
>   Thanks for forwarding the message from Bevan.  If you have been
> following the events around Jan 12th, you'll know a lot of changes 
>are
> taking place now.
> 
>   We finally got our new satellite dish up to watch the Jan. 12th
> broadcasts.
> Everyone listened very intently as Maharishi announced that he is
> retiring, and seemingly has put everything in place for Maha Raja 
Nader
> Ram, his Rajas, and the 12 Ministers to take over all aspects of the
> Movement's guidance and administration.  Maharishi has hinted at 
this
> several times of over the past years, but there was a real sense of
> finality about it this time.  The underlying point of it all is 
that he
> has been telling us all to be Self-Sufficient and not rely on him so
> much anymore.  We have the knowledge, we know what to do, and we 
have
> our programme.  So now only we have to hold fast to it.
> 
>As you may have heard, this is all happening now because it seems
> Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn.  Maharishi seems to have 
been
> in the hospital for some days during silence.  People in Vlodrop got
> wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the body.  When they
> heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in Vlodrop and listening 
to
> the celebration, it was a very emotional time for everyone.  The Jan
> 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in Silence was, I 
suppose,
> designed to reassure people in the field.   And Raja John's latest
> message that Maharishi is retiring "out of necessity" was very 
telling.
> 
>So we shall see what the year ahead brings us. It seems like 
much of
> the day to day running of the Movement will be done by others now.
> Maharishi just said a few days ago that he would withdraw into 
silence
> to work on final commentaries of the Vedas.
> 
>  It will probably be a very significant year for the TM Movement 
and all
> of us.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
>  
> 
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 
1/23/2008
> 5:47 PM
>




[FairfieldLife] The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story

>From the Los Angeles Times

Kennedys for Clinton

She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members say.

By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry Kennedy

January 29, 2008

This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with the 
most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
would make superb presidents.

By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline Kennedy, 
and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of Sen. 
Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton 
because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our party 
and our country.

While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary of 
divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our citizens 
or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
all and a clean, safe environment.

The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a president 
willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
national virtues.

We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her convictions 
firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the face 
of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy and 
pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and most 
democratic warrior.

She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights around 
the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by changing 
attitudes.

Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. Robert 
F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.

We look forward to working beside her in the general election as she 
uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
affiliations across the nation.

Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance ourselves 
as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.

She's been an equally effective champion for human rights and for 
women's rights, a worldwide cause that will profit enormously by her 
elevation to the presidency. She has worked for peace in Northern 
Ireland and fought to bridge religious, racial and ethnic divides 
from Bosnia to the Middle East to South Africa. She has shown a rare 
understanding that American values can only be exported by moral 
leadership, by a strong home economy and by a detailed understanding 
of the history and cultural backdrops of the nations we engage.

She understands, as our current administration does not, the uses of 
power. The world, she says, is hungry for U.S. leadership but will 
not accept our bullying. She knows the difference and will 
reestablish America's lost prestige and moral authority.

Hillary Clinton's political career has been centered in comforting 
the afflicted, afflicting the comfortable and reminding Americans 
what it means to be American. As a young lawyer, she focused on 
children's issues and legal aid. As first lady of Arkansas, she 
brought healthcare to rural areas and helped reform the state's 
lagging education system.

As first lady, she courageously took on healthcare reform. When a 
massive propaganda campaign by Big Pharma and the radical right 
derailed her efforts, she didn't give up. She helped create the 
nationally acclaimed Children's Health Insurance Program. That kind 
of persistence in pursuit of our highest ideals is the brand of 
leadership America now requires. Inspirational leadership comes in 
many forms.

Seldom has history confronted America with such daunting challenges: 
a catastrophic foreign policy that has cost us our international 
leadership and aggravated the threat of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: AT&T plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
an interesting thing has happened when, on several occasions, 
corporations have attempted to "monitor" copyrighted material: there 
has been an enormous backlash that then threatens the economic 
viability of the corporation itself.

It has happened to Google, Yahoo!, and DIGG...all of whom quickly 
backed off once it got out onto the internet that they were 
attempting to monitor.

I suspect the same thing will happen with AT&T.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This would really mess them up. :)
> 
> eqjkjOJIENONDldjishjengypaioneonfdiLX898DLknd
> asjie89d,enogyryuilkdne40d89vnflahdlls-dkjelagyu
> si89dyutntleygnirnxxxeelxi - dsse998nnbe
> x978f8-4l289cnfdsxx9ff
> 
> do.rflex wrote:
> > AT&T is planning to open "all packets" on the Internet, and 
examine
> > them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. 
So,
> > when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto AT&T's Hugh
> > Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that 
instead.
> >
> > Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as 
soon as
> > Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
> > called out "No!" to Joel's question: "Do you want AT&T reading 
your mail?"
> >
> >
> > VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8
> >
> >
> > Here's what happened afterwards:
> >
> >
> > As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
> > interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I 
asked
> > my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
> > wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily 
to
> > ensure that AT&T would have no reason to try to bury the interview
> > entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while 
discussion
> > about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely 
underway.
> >
> > After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very 
happy
> > with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which 
to
> > Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of 
network
> > neutrality and AT&T's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to 
seeing
> > that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.
> >
> > The crew was upset with me not only because I was making 
their job
> > more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost 
them
> > their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on 
the
> > show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
> > After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the 
crew
> > acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the 
show. If
> > AT&T ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on 
them.
> > What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
> > himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole 
mess
> > like troupers.  =
> >
> >
> > There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
> > technically possible for AT&T to do this. Wouldn't it be 
interesting
> > if AT&T was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
> > already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
> > program?
> >
> > Why does AT&T want to know what you're downloading?
> > SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/
> >
> >
> > Via: 
http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] AT&T plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
This would really mess them up. :)

eqjkjOJIENONDldjishjengypaioneonfdiLX898DLknd
asjie89d,enogyryuilkdne40d89vnflahdlls-dkjelagyu
si89dyutntleygnirnxxxeelxi - dsse998nnbe
x978f8-4l289cnfdsxx9ff

do.rflex wrote:
> AT&T is planning to open "all packets" on the Internet, and examine
> them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. So,
> when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto AT&T's Hugh
> Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that instead.
>
> Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as soon as
> Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
> called out "No!" to Joel's question: "Do you want AT&T reading your mail?"
>
>
> VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8
>
>
> Here's what happened afterwards:
>
>
> As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
> interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I asked
> my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
> wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily to
> ensure that AT&T would have no reason to try to bury the interview
> entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while discussion
> about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely underway.
>
> After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very happy
> with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which to
> Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of network
> neutrality and AT&T's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to seeing
> that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.
>
> The crew was upset with me not only because I was making their job
> more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost them
> their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on the
> show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
> After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the crew
> acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the show. If
> AT&T ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on them.
> What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
> himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole mess
> like troupers.  =
>
>
> There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
> technically possible for AT&T to do this. Wouldn't it be interesting
> if AT&T was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
> already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
> program?
>
> Why does AT&T want to know what you're downloading?
> SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/
>
>
> Via: http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet
>
>
>
>
>   



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:


here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year
to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with
some inexpensive red wine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU



I always knew there was something special about you! What a wonderful  
story and historythanks so much for sharing this with all of us!

[FairfieldLife] AT&T plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex


AT&T is planning to open "all packets" on the Internet, and examine
them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. So,
when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto AT&T's Hugh
Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that instead.

Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as soon as
Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
called out "No!" to Joel's question: "Do you want AT&T reading your mail?"


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8


Here's what happened afterwards:


As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I asked
my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily to
ensure that AT&T would have no reason to try to bury the interview
entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while discussion
about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely underway.

After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very happy
with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which to
Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of network
neutrality and AT&T's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to seeing
that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.

The crew was upset with me not only because I was making their job
more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost them
their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on the
show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the crew
acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the show. If
AT&T ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on them.
What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole mess
like troupers.  =


There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
technically possible for AT&T to do this. Wouldn't it be interesting
if AT&T was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
program?

Why does AT&T want to know what you're downloading?
SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/


Via: http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet





[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> > conservative 
> > > records:
> > > 
> > > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > > 
> > > 
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > > 
> > > The second from a right-winger:
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > > for_hillary
> > > 
> > > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
Robert 
> > the 
> > > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
> > > 
> > > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > > 
> > > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
> with 
> > > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  Why, 
to 
> > > take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
> > > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> > 
> > Funny, because triangulating from these three
> > pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> > is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
> 
> Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
> known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
> time you posted.

Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
the last half of the third one, though.

> Nice try.
> 
> Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
> articles show anything but what I suggested.

Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
they said.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting.  
And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and every 
life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum with 
a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
year 
> > to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
with 
> > some inexpensive red wine.
> 
> Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  
What
> a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
> > anesthetic 
> > > > it creates dullness.
> > > 
> > > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. 
If
> > > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the 
last
> > > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too 
much,
> > > and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the 
set 
> > and
> > > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a 
part
> > > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > > 
> > > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in 
the
> > > background.
> > > 
> > > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after 
your
> > > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and 
have
> > > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > > 
> > > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who 
just
> > > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > > 
> > > A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while 
eating
> > > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > > 
> > > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how 
they
> > > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating 
sheep
> > > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's 
olive
> > > harvest.
> > > 
> > > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
> > Vietnamese
> > > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > > 
> > > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their 
horses.
> > > 
> > > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating 
home
> > > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > > 
> > > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over 
the
> > > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > > 
> > > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. 
(limes,sugar
> > > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching 
World
> > > Cup soccer. 
> > > 
> > > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the 
occupation 
> > of
> > >  Japan.
> > > 
> > > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, 
with 
> > a
> > > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> > > 
> > > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your 
girlfriend
> > > while the snow falls outside.
> > > 
> > > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the 
shared
> > > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink 
that
> > > connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an 
attitude. 
> > > It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special 
version.  
> > You
> > > may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to 
associate
> > > it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
> > conversation.
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an 
active 
> > brain-
> > > > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
> > abuse 
> > > > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the 
`social 
> > > > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
> > caused 
> > > > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic 
beverages. 
> > Even 
> > > > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it 
difficult 
> > for 
> > > > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
> > ethanol 
> > > > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very 
much 
> > in 
> > > > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly 
toxic.
> > > > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: CBS News report on Maharish's retirement

2008-01-29 Thread mainstream20016

No mention of Nader Ram as successor..hhh. I'm not surprised.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> CBS News report on Maharish's retirement
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/29/ap/world/main3766030.shtml
> 
> Maharishi Retreats Into Silence
> 
> Indian Guru To The Beatles Retreats Into Silence, 
> Gives Up Control Of Meditation Movement
> 
> THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Jan. 29, 2008
> 
> [3 Photos]
> 
> (AP) It was 1967 and the Indian meditation guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
> dressed in white with long flowing black hair and a gray beard, beamed
> as he stood surrounded by four smiling young Beatles at the peak of
> their popularity.
> 
> George Harrison, clutching a sitar, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and
> Ringo Starr were on their way to a retreat in Wales led by the
> Maharishi, and the Hindu holy man was on his way to worldwide fame.
> 
> It has been more than 50 years since the Maharishi began teaching a
> technique known as Transcendental Meditation. He is now believed to be
> 91 and on Tuesday, a close adviser said he has retreated into near
> silence and turned over the day-to-day running of his global network
> to aides.
> 
> "He is not as young as he once was," adviser John Hagelin, an American
> physicist, said by telephone from the Dutch village of Vlodrop where
> the TM movement is now headquartered. "I think he probably has a more
> limited reserve of physical energy to draw upon. He was working ... 20
> hours a day for years."
> 
> Transcendental Meditation, or TM, is a 20-minute twice daily routine
> in which the meditator silently focuses on a sound, or mantra, to
> induce relaxation and "dive into a state of pure consciousness."
> 
> Most scientists agree TM can ease stress, high blood pressure, pain
> and insomnia. But some argue it is no more effective than many other
> mind-body relaxation techniques.
> 
> Movie director David Lynch once extolled the virtues of TM in a speech.
> 
> "Anger, stress, tension, depression, sorrow, hate, fear -- these things
> start to retreat," said Lynch, a longtime practitioner. "And for a
> filmmaker, having this negativity lift away is money in the bank. When
> you're suffering you can't create."
> 
> The Maharishi's movement claims some 6 million people have become
> practitioners.
> 
> But it was not until the Beatles visited his ashram in India in 1968
> that the guru became an icon of the counterculture movement. John,
> Paul, George and Ringo came for spiritual instruction as they
> struggled to come to terms with the death of their manager Brian Epstein.
> 
> Other celebrities who followed the Maharishi's teachings included
> singer Donovan, actress Mia Farrow and the Beach Boys.
> 
> The attention his famous followers focused on the Maharishi's movement
> turned it into a global phenomenon with outposts in some 130
> countries. For the last 17 years, he has run it from a former
> Franciscan monastery in a secluded forest near Vlodrop, an eastern
> Dutch village near the German border. He often spent hours on end
> speaking by video links to followers around the globe.
> 
> The Maharishi told senior aides at a Jan. 8 meeting in the Netherlands
> of his plan to withdraw from administrative duties and spend his time
> absorbed in the ancient Indian texts that underpin his movement. The
> announcement caught many followers off guard.
> 
> "He had been involved very dynamically administratively in his
> worldwide movement for over 50 years, so it's quite a significant
> change to see him dive back purely into knowledge and let other people
> take care of the administration," Hagelin said.
> 
> There is no one designated successor but many people have been trained
> for years to carry on the Maharishi's various tasks, Hagelin said.
> 
> The Maharishi -- a Hindi-language title for Great Seer -- now spends his
> days in silence contemplating and preparing a commentary on the Vedas,
> a vast Sanskrit canon compiled some 3,500 years ago, from which he
> evolves solutions for today's troubled world.
> 
> "I think everybody's quietly feeling some sense of celebration that
> he's finally going to complete his commentary on the Vedas, which
> probably will have a longer-term impact," Hagelin said. "It's a
> vitally important body of literature."
> 
> The Maharishi is believed to have been born Jan. 12, 1917, in central
> India. He earned a physics degree from Allahabad University, was the
> longtime secretary to a leading Hindu sage, then wen into silent
> retreat for two years in the northern Indian hills.
> 
> In 1955, he began teaching Transcendental Meditation and took his
> technique to the United States in 1959.
> 
> Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
> conservative 
> > records:
> > 
> > The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> > 
> > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> > 
> > The second from a right-winger:
> > 
> > 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> > for_hillary
> > 
> > The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert 
> the 
> > Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
> > 
> > http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> > 
> > But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
with 
> > the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  Why, to 
> > take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
> > have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
> 
> Funny, because triangulating from these three
> pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
> is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.


Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest known 
rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the time you 
posted.

Nice try.

Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the articles 
show anything but what I suggested.




[FairfieldLife] CBS News report on Maharish's retirement

2008-01-29 Thread george_deforest
CBS News report on Maharish's retirement
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/29/ap/world/main3766030.shtml

Maharishi Retreats Into Silence

Indian Guru To The Beatles Retreats Into Silence, 
Gives Up Control Of Meditation Movement

THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Jan. 29, 2008

[3 Photos]

(AP) It was 1967 and the Indian meditation guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
dressed in white with long flowing black hair and a gray beard, beamed
as he stood surrounded by four smiling young Beatles at the peak of
their popularity.

George Harrison, clutching a sitar, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and
Ringo Starr were on their way to a retreat in Wales led by the
Maharishi, and the Hindu holy man was on his way to worldwide fame.

It has been more than 50 years since the Maharishi began teaching a
technique known as Transcendental Meditation. He is now believed to be
91 and on Tuesday, a close adviser said he has retreated into near
silence and turned over the day-to-day running of his global network
to aides.

"He is not as young as he once was," adviser John Hagelin, an American
physicist, said by telephone from the Dutch village of Vlodrop where
the TM movement is now headquartered. "I think he probably has a more
limited reserve of physical energy to draw upon. He was working ... 20
hours a day for years."

Transcendental Meditation, or TM, is a 20-minute twice daily routine
in which the meditator silently focuses on a sound, or mantra, to
induce relaxation and "dive into a state of pure consciousness."

Most scientists agree TM can ease stress, high blood pressure, pain
and insomnia. But some argue it is no more effective than many other
mind-body relaxation techniques.

Movie director David Lynch once extolled the virtues of TM in a speech.

"Anger, stress, tension, depression, sorrow, hate, fear -- these things
start to retreat," said Lynch, a longtime practitioner. "And for a
filmmaker, having this negativity lift away is money in the bank. When
you're suffering you can't create."

The Maharishi's movement claims some 6 million people have become
practitioners.

But it was not until the Beatles visited his ashram in India in 1968
that the guru became an icon of the counterculture movement. John,
Paul, George and Ringo came for spiritual instruction as they
struggled to come to terms with the death of their manager Brian Epstein.

Other celebrities who followed the Maharishi's teachings included
singer Donovan, actress Mia Farrow and the Beach Boys.

The attention his famous followers focused on the Maharishi's movement
turned it into a global phenomenon with outposts in some 130
countries. For the last 17 years, he has run it from a former
Franciscan monastery in a secluded forest near Vlodrop, an eastern
Dutch village near the German border. He often spent hours on end
speaking by video links to followers around the globe.

The Maharishi told senior aides at a Jan. 8 meeting in the Netherlands
of his plan to withdraw from administrative duties and spend his time
absorbed in the ancient Indian texts that underpin his movement. The
announcement caught many followers off guard.

"He had been involved very dynamically administratively in his
worldwide movement for over 50 years, so it's quite a significant
change to see him dive back purely into knowledge and let other people
take care of the administration," Hagelin said.

There is no one designated successor but many people have been trained
for years to carry on the Maharishi's various tasks, Hagelin said.

The Maharishi -- a Hindi-language title for Great Seer -- now spends his
days in silence contemplating and preparing a commentary on the Vedas,
a vast Sanskrit canon compiled some 3,500 years ago, from which he
evolves solutions for today's troubled world.

"I think everybody's quietly feeling some sense of celebration that
he's finally going to complete his commentary on the Vedas, which
probably will have a longer-term impact," Hagelin said. "It's a
vitally important body of literature."

The Maharishi is believed to have been born Jan. 12, 1917, in central
India. He earned a physics degree from Allahabad University, was the
longtime secretary to a leading Hindu sage, then wen into silent
retreat for two years in the northern Indian hills.

In 1955, he began teaching Transcendental Meditation and took his
technique to the United States in 1959.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
conservative 
> records:
> 
> The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
> 
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
> 
> The second from a right-winger:
> 
> 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
> for_hillary
> 
> The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert 
the 
> Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
> 
> http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
> 
> But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on with 
> the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  Why, to 
> take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
> have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!

Funny, because triangulating from these three
pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year 
> to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with 
> some inexpensive red wine.

Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  What
a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!




> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
> 
> **
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > > > 
> > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
> anesthetic 
> > > it creates dullness.
> > 
> > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
> > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> > and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set 
> and
> > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
> > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > 
> > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> > background.
> > 
> > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > 
> > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > 
> > A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > 
> > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> > harvest.
> > 
> > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
> Vietnamese
> > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > 
> > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> > 
> > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > 
> > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > 
> > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> > Cup soccer. 
> > 
> > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation 
> of
> >  Japan.
> > 
> > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with 
> a
> > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> > 
> > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> > while the snow falls outside.
> > 
> > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> > connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
> > It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  
> You
> > may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
> > it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
> conversation.
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > > 
> > > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active 
> brain-
> > > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
> abuse 
> > > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
> > > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
> caused 
> > > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. 
> Even 
> > > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult 
> for 
> > > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
> ethanol 
> > > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much 
> in 
> > > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> > > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
> > > 
> > > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- curtisdeltablues 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Very funny. I just watched the original TC video
> > > all
> > > > over again and it really is so disturbing in its
> > > > narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking
> > > about
> > > > the perfection of TM 30 years ago!
> > > 
> > > You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I
> > > recognize my own
> > > past!
> > 
> > That absolute certitude that you are right...no, not
> > right, but RIGHT!!! Confounding the conviction of your
> > belief with certitude. So profoundly immature.
> 
> Like suggesting that some young fellow ought to remove a mole in his 
> face because it is distracting ? ;-)

It was me, not Dr. Pete, who suggested the young fellow have the
humongous mole removed from his face. However, I now know the error of
my ways and have been reeducated and rehabilitated. I understand now
that facial moles are the key to financial success. After all, look at
Cindy Crawford or Marilyn Monroe or even me... scientific proof that
moles on the face are money magnets.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:
> It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
> of nor knew) as "poor Scott".  That really probably more insulting to 
> his memory than anyone else.
>
>   
I kinda don't understand why anyone would  get upset about the exercise 
thread.  It was meant in concern of the guy having cardiovascular 
disease and not intended in any disrespect.  And too be fair people do 
hijack threads here because they're too lazy (or ignorant) to start a 
new topic.   But the guy going off on the group also made him look like 
a TMco droid.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Shemp,
> 
> Your title: "Hell hath frozen over" er, is that your way of jabbing
> another elbow into Al Gore's side?
> 
> I mean, it's one thing to think the world is not getting hotter, but
> to think that Hell is not only getting cold but freezing cold seems 
to
> me to be typical of your exaggerationist posting style.  Sorry, this
> is a concept you may not be able to face yet and be, yep, there it 
is:
> an inconvenient truth.
> 
> You need a trikking.
> 
> Edg




Like the news that the polar ice caps on Mars is also melting, I'm 
sure that if hell was, indeed, frozen over, the Global-Warming 
alarmists would find some way of blaming it on CO2 and George Bush.


> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > 
> > [snip]
> > .
> > > 
> > > Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
> > > as is Hillary.
> > > 
> > > And we haven't been having this same conversation
> > > for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
> > > your "Bill Clinton was a conservative" trolls;
> > > the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
> > > responding now only to correct your false
> > > attribution of that view to me.
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
> > conservative, which I have done.
> > 
> > All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
> > Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.
> > 
> > Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, 
who is 
> > extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
> > Bill and Hillary are "centrist Democrats".
> > 
> > Again, thanks for that.
> > 
> > Oh, and please: keep voting for her!
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread Duveyoung
Shemp,

Your title: "Hell hath frozen over" er, is that your way of jabbing
another elbow into Al Gore's side?

I mean, it's one thing to think the world is not getting hotter, but
to think that Hell is not only getting cold but freezing cold seems to
me to be typical of your exaggerationist posting style.  Sorry, this
is a concept you may not be able to face yet and be, yep, there it is:
an inconvenient truth.

You need a trikking.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> 
> [snip]
> .
> > 
> > Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
> > as is Hillary.
> > 
> > And we haven't been having this same conversation
> > for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
> > your "Bill Clinton was a conservative" trolls;
> > the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
> > responding now only to correct your false
> > attribution of that view to me.
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
> conservative, which I have done.
> 
> All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
> Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.
> 
> Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, who is 
> extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
> Bill and Hillary are "centrist Democrats".
> 
> Again, thanks for that.
> 
> Oh, and please: keep voting for her!
>




[FairfieldLife] For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's conservative 
records:

The first from the left-wing New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza

The second from a right-winger:

http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
for_hillary

The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert the 
Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:

http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml

But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on with 
the illusion that the Clintons are "centrist Democrats".  Why, to 
take an alternative position would mean that you would actually have 
to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread tertonzeno
--All true, shemp!  For beginners, in the Sant Mat Tradition, there's 
a statement to the effect that their goal (what MMY calls GC) takes 3 
lifetimes; not 5-7 years, or whatever. 



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- shempmcgurk  wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Archer et al,
> > > > 
> > > > I tried to post to this thread last night but
> > > cannot find it. I may
> > > > have done something wrong.  
> > > > 
> > > > Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
> > > friend Scott 
> > > Girard
> > > > from high school and college, I would like to
> > > simply repeat my 
> > > request
> > > > that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
> > > on this discussion
> > > > group, perhaps all of you might take your little
> > > arguments about
> > > > exercise and your vicious threats against each
> > > other to a different
> > > > subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
> > > are bringing to the
> > > > name of a good and gentle man.
> > > > 
> > > > This is precisely the kind of childishness that
> > > would have upset 
> > > Scott
> > > > the most. Were he to have learned that so many
> > > people have time to
> > > > criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
> > > he would have been
> > > > saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
> > > you to rise above
> > > > it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
> > > more significant
> > > > matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
> > > with the childish
> > > > name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
> > > > 
> > > > So, please, start a thread called "To exercise or
> > > not" or something
> > > > like that and let poor Scott and his memory
> > > actually begin to rest 
> > > in
> > > > peace.
> > > > 
> > > > Tim Rowan
> > > > Colorado Springs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dear Mr. Rowan,
> > > 
> > > By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
> > > bickering on this 
> > > forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
> > > peace, you imply 
> > > that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
> > > program -- called "The 
> > > Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm" -- that wasn't very
> > > effective.  
> > > After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
> > > and countless 
> > > hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
> > > Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
> > > enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
> > > overcome our 
> > > admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
> > > YOU saying about 
> > > the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
> > > during his lifetime?
> > > 
> > > I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
> > > YOU who is 
> > > showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
> > > implying that he was 
> > > both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
> > > choosing a spiritual 
> > > path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
> > > would, at the 
> > > very least, expect from more than three decades of
> > > devotion.
> > > 
> > > Sincerely,
> > > 
> > > The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
> > 
> > Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
> > thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
> > ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
> > thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
> > Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
> > for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
> > without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
> > Please, nobody answer that question!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
> of nor knew) as "poor Scott".  That really probably more insulting 
to 
> his memory than anyone else.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  

[snip]
.
> 
> Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
> as is Hillary.
> 
> And we haven't been having this same conversation
> for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
> your "Bill Clinton was a conservative" trolls;
> the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
> responding now only to correct your false
> attribution of that view to me.


[snip]

All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
conservative, which I have done.

All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.

Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, who is 
extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
Bill and Hillary are "centrist Democrats".

Again, thanks for that.

Oh, and please: keep voting for her!



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year 
to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with 
some inexpensive red wine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > > 
> > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
anesthetic 
> > it creates dullness.
> 
> I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
> attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set 
and
> setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
> of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> 
> A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> background.
> 
> Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> 
> A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> 
> A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> 
> Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> harvest.
> 
> Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
Vietnamese
> friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> 
> A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> 
> Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> 
> Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> traditional meal she cooked for you.
> 
> Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> Cup soccer. 
> 
> A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation 
of
>  Japan.
> 
> Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with 
a
> glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> 
> A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> while the snow falls outside.
> 
> Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
> It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  
You
> may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
> it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
conversation.
>  
> 
>   
> > 
> > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active 
brain-
> > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
abuse 
> > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
> > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
caused 
> > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. 
Even 
> > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult 
for 
> > the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
ethanol 
> > acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much 
in 
> > the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> > {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
> > 
> > http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Larry

There is wisdom in showing grace when given an opportunity, and wisdom
in not filing a grievance with every real or alleged fault of another.
 The wisdom being that, in giving grace, you will be more 'eligible'
when grace comes your way . . . anyways, this seems like good advice
my grandma told me.

Does anyone have any photos of Scott, or any tales?  I wonder if I
ever met him?

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- shempmcgurk  wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Archer et al,
> > > > 
> > > > I tried to post to this thread last night but
> > > cannot find it. I may
> > > > have done something wrong.  
> > > > 
> > > > Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
> > > friend Scott 
> > > Girard
> > > > from high school and college, I would like to
> > > simply repeat my 
> > > request
> > > > that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
> > > on this discussion
> > > > group, perhaps all of you might take your little
> > > arguments about
> > > > exercise and your vicious threats against each
> > > other to a different
> > > > subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
> > > are bringing to the
> > > > name of a good and gentle man.
> > > > 
> > > > This is precisely the kind of childishness that
> > > would have upset 
> > > Scott
> > > > the most. Were he to have learned that so many
> > > people have time to
> > > > criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
> > > he would have been
> > > > saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
> > > you to rise above
> > > > it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
> > > more significant
> > > > matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
> > > with the childish
> > > > name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
> > > > 
> > > > So, please, start a thread called "To exercise or
> > > not" or something
> > > > like that and let poor Scott and his memory
> > > actually begin to rest 
> > > in
> > > > peace.
> > > > 
> > > > Tim Rowan
> > > > Colorado Springs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dear Mr. Rowan,
> > > 
> > > By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
> > > bickering on this 
> > > forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
> > > peace, you imply 
> > > that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
> > > program -- called "The 
> > > Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm" -- that wasn't very
> > > effective.  
> > > After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
> > > and countless 
> > > hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
> > > Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
> > > enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
> > > overcome our 
> > > admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
> > > YOU saying about 
> > > the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
> > > during his lifetime?
> > > 
> > > I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
> > > YOU who is 
> > > showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
> > > implying that he was 
> > > both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
> > > choosing a spiritual 
> > > path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
> > > would, at the 
> > > very least, expect from more than three decades of
> > > devotion.
> > > 
> > > Sincerely,
> > > 
> > > The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
> > 
> > Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
> > thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
> > ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
> > thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
> > Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
> > for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
> > without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
> > Please, nobody answer that question!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
> of nor knew) as "poor Scott".  That really probably more insulting to 
> his memory than anyone else.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> 
> ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives during 
> his 8 years in office?
> 
> You mean the way he signed NAFTA, the Welfare Reform Act, balanced 
> the budget, supported the death penalty, the Defense of Marriage Act, 
> etc.?
> 
> Yup, bring on Hillary and Bill, the most conservative president of 
> the last 50 years.

Welfare reform was vetoed at least twice before he finally signed it.
 Family Medical Leave Act passed under his watch.  Expansion of the
earned income credit was a significant piece of legislation.  The
Brady bill passed.  Even though health care reform did not pass, very
significant protections were obtained for consumers through health
insurance portability legislation.  

I can't recall what the trades were for the defense of marriage act. 

He and Hillary worked hard on health care reform.  Those against the
reform were well financed and aggressive.  The final plan ended up
with too many compromises, which made it difficult to sell in a sound
bite.  Interestingly, much has changed since that time and many of
those who lobbied against the efforts are now supportive of some
version of guaranteed health care.  As a lobbyist on this issue, the
whole exercise was probably a necessary step.  Hillary is much more in
tune with this issue, my issue, than is Obama.  However, at least
Obama and the other democrats see that there are significant problems
in the health care and health insurance industries that need work. 
Unlike the republicans who think that the market and health savings
accounts will take care of the issue. 




[FairfieldLife] Keeping track of the *national* primary delegate count

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex


Republican Candidates:

These delegate counts represent CNN's most recent total for each
candidate and break down pledged delegates and unpledged RNC member
delegates, according to CNN's most recent survey of unpledged RNC members.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#R

Democratic Candidates:

These delegate counts represent CNN's most recent total for each
candidate and break down pledged delegates and superdelegates,
according to CNN's most recent survey of superdelegates.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:44 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:




And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.



May I ask, what is the correct vastu for getting laid?  Close your
eyes and think of the Maharishi?


While facing east.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
> > > > facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
> > > > clearer idea of what the score will be and what
> > > > she'll have to do to get things done. The
> > > > opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
> > > > is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
> > > > chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
> > > > warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
> > > > enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
> > > 
> > > ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
> > > during his 8 years in office?
> > 
> > I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
> > steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
> > the way around than Bill and more committed
> > to change.
> 
> Thank you for that, Judy.
> 
> I don't know if you realize it or not, but, above, you have, for 
> the first time since we've been having this same conversation for 
> 5+ years, finally acknowledged -- at least implicitly -- that Bill 
> was conservative.

Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
as is Hillary.

And we haven't been having this same conversation
for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
your "Bill Clinton was a conservative" trolls;
the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
responding now only to correct your false
attribution of that view to me.

> Whether he was "steamrolled" and not "tough"
> enough...or...he assented to the legislation in
> question because he thought it best for the
> country is another issue

That's a pretty strange definition, but if it
helps you keep things nice and simple so you
don't actually have to *think* about what
happened during his presidency, you're welcome
to it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
> the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.
> 

May I ask, what is the correct vastu for getting laid?  Close your
eyes and think of the Maharishi?




[FairfieldLife] Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> 
> > > Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
> > > facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
> > > clearer idea of what the score will be and what
> > > she'll have to do to get things done. The
> > > opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
> > > is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
> > > chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
> > > warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
> > > enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
> > 
> > ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
> > during his 8 years in office?
> 
> I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
> steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
> the way around than Bill and more committed
> to change.

Thank you for that, Judy.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but, above, you have, for the 
first time since we've been having this same conversation for 5+ 
years, finally acknowledged -- at least implicitly -- that Bill was 
conservative.  Whether he was "steamrolled" and not "tough" 
enough...or...he assented to the legislation in question because he 
thought it best for the country is another issue; your 
acknowledgement is well appreciated.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote:


I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
the way around than Bill and more committed
to change.


Then why hasn't any of that been obvious during her 7 years in office  
so far?  She's gone along with the worst excesses of the Bush/Cheney  
cabal, as far as I can tell.


Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
> > facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
> > clearer idea of what the score will be and what
> > she'll have to do to get things done. The
> > opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
> > is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
> > chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
> > warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
> > enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
> 
> ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
> during his 8 years in office?

I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
the way around than Bill and more committed
to change.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > j_alexander_stanley@ writes:
> > 
> > Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> > > has the ability to do anything  *else*.
> > 
> > Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
> > generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
> > done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,
> > the effective, well-informed policy wonk.
> > 
> > Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will
> > have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
> > they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
> > Gingrich did the first two  years of the Clinton administration.
> 
> Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
> facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
> clearer idea of what the score will be and what
> she'll have to do to get things done. The
> opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
> is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
> chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
> warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
> enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.


...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives during 
his 8 years in office?

You mean the way he signed NAFTA, the Welfare Reform Act, balanced 
the budget, supported the death penalty, the Defense of Marriage Act, 
etc.?

Yup, bring on Hillary and Bill, the most conservative president of 
the last 50 years.

It's wonderful, isn't it, when your political opposities do all your 
work for you!

Oh, it just warms my heart that Judy supports the Clintons...




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So I'm guessing I'm gunna get even less approval with a story 
> of sharing a spliff with  a dreadlocked Rastafarian while eating 
> Ital food and listening to live reggae...
> 
> Thought you would enjoy that list, and I know you have one of your
> own.I'm just racking up the stories for when we're parked next to 
> each other in our wheelchairs in the home for wayward yogis Turq.
> My chair will be rigged up with a flask of something that will 
> enhance our "meds"!

Jah, mon. I be lookin' forward to 't.

If you pick a home for wayward yogis here in Spain, you 
can even grow your own herb for the spliff during 
"gardening hour." It's legal here.

I be listenin' right now to Brother Marley's re-release 
of "No Woman, No Cry" from beyond the grave. He must miss
a few of these delights as well, because he's changed
the lyrics of the chorus to say, "No Maya, no fun."

:-)


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!
> > 
> > All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
> > omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
> > on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
> > to as "this horrible place." 
> > 
> > How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
> > inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
> > must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
> > such things satisfying in any way.
> > 
> > Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
> > can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
> > lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 
> > 
> > Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
> > to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
> > horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
> > but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
> > Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
> > and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
> > NEVER have to stop meditating.
> > 
> > Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
> > of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
> > Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
> > same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
> > share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.
> > 
> > Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
> > "something that distracts you from the Absolute?"
> > 
> > As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
> > OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
> > out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
> > can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
> > evolved souls do.
> > 
> > Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
> > so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
> > that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
> > to run away from. That's Off The Program.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
> > > > anesthetic it creates dullness.
> > > 
> > > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> > > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
> > > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> > > and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the
set and
> > > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
> > > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > > 
> > > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> > > background.
> > > 
> > > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> > > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> > > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > > 
> > > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> > > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > > 
> > > A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> > > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > > 
> > > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> > > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> > > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> > > harvest.
> > > 
> > > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your
Vietnamese
> > > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > > 
> > > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> > > 
> > > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> > > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > > 
> > > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> > > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > > 
> > > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sug

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
So I'm guessing I'm gunna get even less approval with a story of
sharing a spliff with  a dreadlocked Rastafarian while eating Ital
food and listening to live reggae...

Thought you would enjoy that list, and I know you have one of your
own.I'm just racking up the stories for when we're parked next to each
other in our wheelchairs in the home for wayward yogis Turq .  My
chair will be rigged up with a flask of something that will enhance
our "meds"!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!
> 
> All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
> omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
> on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
> to as "this horrible place." 
> 
> How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
> inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
> must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
> such things satisfying in any way.
> 
> Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
> can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
> lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 
> 
> Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
> to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
> horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
> but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
> Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
> and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
> NEVER have to stop meditating.
> 
> Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
> of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
> Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
> same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
> share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.
> 
> Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
> "something that distracts you from the Absolute?"
> 
> As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
> OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
> out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
> can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
> evolved souls do.
> 
> Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
> so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
> that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
> to run away from. That's Off The Program.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
> > > anesthetic it creates dullness.
> > 
> > I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> > that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
> > attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> > and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
> > setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
> > of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> > 
> > A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> > background.
> > 
> > Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> > last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> > many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> > 
> > A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> > came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> > 
> > A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> > Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> > 
> > Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> > survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> > feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> > harvest.
> > 
> > Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
> > friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> > 
> > A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> > 
> > Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> > style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> > 
> > Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> > traditional meal she cooked for you.
> > 
> > Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> > and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> > Cup soccer. 
> > 
> > A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> > experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
> >  Japan.
> > 
> > Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
> > glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> > 
> > A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> > while the snow falls outside.
> > 
> > Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> > beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> > connects people.  Alcohol is just su

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> > has the ability to do anything  *else*.
> 
> Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
> generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
> done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,
> the effective, well-informed policy wonk.
> 
> Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will
> have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
> they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
> Gingrich did the first two  years of the Clinton administration.

Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
clearer idea of what the score will be and what
she'll have to do to get things done. The
opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > > Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> > > has the ability to do anything  *else*.
> > 
> > Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
> > generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
> > done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,  the
> > effective, well-informed policy wonk.
> 
> Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will 
> have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
> they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
> Gingrich did the first two years of the Clinton administration.

I think Obama's recent ad about Hilary says it all:
"She'll say anything...and change nothing."

She sold her soul and her votes to the highest bidder
decades ago, and would do the same as President. In
the world of politics, "not having as much experience
as Hilary does" is a GOOD thing. It means he hasn't
sold his soul as often yet, or as completely.





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!

All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
to as "this horrible place." 

How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
such things satisfying in any way.

Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 

Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
NEVER have to stop meditating.

Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.

Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
"something that distracts you from the Absolute?"

As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
evolved souls do.

Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
to run away from. That's Off The Program.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
> > anesthetic it creates dullness.
> 
> I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
> that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
> attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
> and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
> setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
> of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
> 
> A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
> background.
> 
> Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
> last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
> many questions about what blues artists they should download.
> 
> A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
> came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
> 
> A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
> Chesapeake Bay crabs.
> 
> Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
> survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
> feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
> harvest.
> 
> Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
> friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
> 
> A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
> 
> Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
> style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
> 
> Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
> traditional meal she cooked for you.
> 
> Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
> and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
> Cup soccer. 
> 
> A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
> experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
>  Japan.
> 
> Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
> glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
> 
> A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
> while the snow falls outside.
> 
> Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
> beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
> connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
> It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  You
> may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
> it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
conversation.
>  
> 
>   
> > 
> > Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active brain-
> > drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse 
> > distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
> > drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused 
> > by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even 
> > low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for 
> > the hippocampus t

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Roberto"  wrote:
> > 
> > > He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
> > > together.
> > 
> > Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> > has the ability to do anything *else*.
> 
> Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse
> may generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get
> the job done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense
> of Obama, the effective, well-informed policy wonk.

Even the Kumbaya bit may be something of a sham,
given his pointed snub of Hillary Clinton last
night at the SOTU when she came over to shake
Teddy Kennedy's hand.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> has the ability to do anything  *else*.

Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,  the
effective, well-informed policy wonk.



Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will have to  
have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything they want.  
Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt Gingrich did the first two  
years of 
the Clinton administration.



**Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape. 
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489


[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Roberto"  wrote:
> 
> > Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
> > This whole thing happened recently.
> > Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
> > event, back in December...
> > For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to
> > tap into.
> > Since that time, this has only increased.
> > He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
> > together.
> 
> Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
> has the ability to do anything *else*.

Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse may
generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the job
done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama, the
effective, well-informed policy wonk.



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues

> > 
> Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic 
> it creates dullness.

I understand the "alcohol bad" position and lived it for years. If
that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.

A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
background.

Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
many questions about what blues artists they should download.

A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.

A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
Chesapeake Bay crabs.

Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
harvest.

Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.

A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.

Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.

Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
traditional meal she cooked for you.

Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
Cup soccer. 

A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
 Japan.

Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.

A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
while the snow falls outside.

Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  You
may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during conversation.
 

  
> 
> Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active brain-
> drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse 
> distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
> drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused 
> by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even 
> low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for 
> the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol 
> acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in 
> the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
> {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
> 
> http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Mr. Archer et al,
> > > 
> > > I tried to post to this thread last night but
> > cannot find it. I may
> > > have done something wrong.  
> > > 
> > > Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
> > friend Scott 
> > Girard
> > > from high school and college, I would like to
> > simply repeat my 
> > request
> > > that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
> > on this discussion
> > > group, perhaps all of you might take your little
> > arguments about
> > > exercise and your vicious threats against each
> > other to a different
> > > subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
> > are bringing to the
> > > name of a good and gentle man.
> > > 
> > > This is precisely the kind of childishness that
> > would have upset 
> > Scott
> > > the most. Were he to have learned that so many
> > people have time to
> > > criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
> > he would have been
> > > saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
> > you to rise above
> > > it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
> > more significant
> > > matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
> > with the childish
> > > name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
> > > 
> > > So, please, start a thread called "To exercise or
> > not" or something
> > > like that and let poor Scott and his memory
> > actually begin to rest 
> > in
> > > peace.
> > > 
> > > Tim Rowan
> > > Colorado Springs
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Mr. Rowan,
> > 
> > By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
> > bickering on this 
> > forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
> > peace, you imply 
> > that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
> > program -- called "The 
> > Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm" -- that wasn't very
> > effective.  
> > After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
> > and countless 
> > hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
> > Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
> > enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
> > overcome our 
> > admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
> > YOU saying about 
> > the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
> > during his lifetime?
> > 
> > I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
> > YOU who is 
> > showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
> > implying that he was 
> > both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
> > choosing a spiritual 
> > path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
> > would, at the 
> > very least, expect from more than three decades of
> > devotion.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
> 
> Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
> thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
> ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
> thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
> Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
> for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
> without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
> Please, nobody answer that question!






It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
of nor knew) as "poor Scott".  That really probably more insulting to 
his memory than anyone else.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
> > > > to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
> > > > *other* up?
> > >
> > > Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
> > > of "spunge-brain syndrome."
> > >
> > > Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
> > > go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
> > > that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
> > 
> > A good glass of wine would do wonders.
> 
> I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
> either of them ever even *approached* being
> human.  :-)
> 
> The gist of this act seems to be, "Ok everyone
> on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
> dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
> my opponent is."
> 
> Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 
> 
> Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.
> 
> Both of them think we in the "audience" are 
> interested in the results.
> 
> Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
> happens if they "win" and "prove" that the other
> person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?
> 
> The "winner" will have proved that the "loser"
> is a bit of a retard.
> 
> And by doing so, the "winner" will have proved
> that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.
> 
> Now THAT's a real challenge, right?
> 
> :-)
>


However, the difference between you and me, Turquoise, is that 
whereas you will continue to goad and exchange with Judy for days and 
days and days and post after post after post, I actually retire after 
about 4 or 5 exchanges.

I even ignore her running dog lacky, Bongo Brazil, when, as usual, he 
comes nipping at my heels and shitting on my carpet.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...

2008-01-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Very funny. I just watched the original TC video
> > all
> > > over again and it really is so disturbing in its
> > > narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking
> > about
> > > the perfection of TM 30 years ago!
> > 
> > You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I
> > recognize my own
> > past!
> 
> That absolute certitude that you are right...no, not
> right, but RIGHT!!! Confounding the conviction of your
> belief with certitude. So profoundly immature.

Like suggesting that some young fellow ought to remove a mole in his 
face because it is distracting ? ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Turning Over Tables in the Temple'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yesterday, it felt like the Status Quo moved a bit...
>   No longer is Bill Clinton the leader he once was...
>   The Clintons seem stale and plastic now.
>   It's as if Teddy Kennedy Baptized a new leader yesterday:


Perhaps he baptized him in the waters surrounding Chappaquiddik...



>   Someone who speaks to the soul, like Bobby or John.



Oh, yes, John would have LOVED Obama, seeing as he had such a great 
record on African-Americans.  Didn't John have to cozy up with the 
racist, segregationist Dixiecrats in order to secure his nomination?

Bobby was the one who did what he could for the Blacks (well, some 
Blacks, at least. Remember that Bobby, as Attorney-General, was the 
one who signed the warrants to wire-tap Martin Luther King).  In 
fact, John used to deride Bobby in this area by referring to him 
as "Bobby and his Negroes".




>   Someone ready to take the reins and move us forward.
>   The days of poll tested,  plastic fantastic performances:
>   Ended.
>
>
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
> > > > > to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
> > > > > *other* up?
> > > >
> > > > Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
> > > > of "spunge-brain syndrome."
> > > >
> > > > Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
> > > > go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
> > > > that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
> > > 
> > > A good glass of wine would do wonders.
> > 
> > I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
> > either of them ever even *approached* being
> > human.  :-)
> 
> Shut up, Barry. You're irrelevant.

Make that two bottles for Judy. 

:-)  :-)  :-)

Just for fun, replacing the part of my post she so 
carefully snipped (the part she was pissed about):

> The gist of this act seems to be, "Ok everyone
> on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
> dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
> my opponent is."
> 
> Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 
> 
> Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.
> 
> Both of them think we in the "audience" are 
> interested in the results.
> 
> Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
> happens if they "win" and "prove" that the other
> person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?
> 
> The "winner" will have proved that the "loser"
> is a bit of a retard.
> 
> And by doing so, the "winner" will have proved
> that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.
> 
> Now THAT's a real challenge, right?
> 
> :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
> > > > to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
> > > > *other* up?
> > >
> > > Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
> > > of "spunge-brain syndrome."
> > >
> > > Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
> > > go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
> > > that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
> > 
> > A good glass of wine would do wonders.
> 
> I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
> either of them ever even *approached* being
> human.  :-)

Shut up, Barry. You're irrelevant.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Roberto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
> This whole thing happened recently.
> Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
> event, back in December...
> For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to
> tap into.
> Since that time, this has only increased.
> He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
> together.

Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
has the ability to do anything *else*.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Peter

--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Archer et al,
> > 
> > I tried to post to this thread last night but
> cannot find it. I may
> > have done something wrong.  
> > 
> > Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
> friend Scott 
> Girard
> > from high school and college, I would like to
> simply repeat my 
> request
> > that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
> on this discussion
> > group, perhaps all of you might take your little
> arguments about
> > exercise and your vicious threats against each
> other to a different
> > subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
> are bringing to the
> > name of a good and gentle man.
> > 
> > This is precisely the kind of childishness that
> would have upset 
> Scott
> > the most. Were he to have learned that so many
> people have time to
> > criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
> he would have been
> > saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
> you to rise above
> > it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
> more significant
> > matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
> with the childish
> > name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
> > 
> > So, please, start a thread called "To exercise or
> not" or something
> > like that and let poor Scott and his memory
> actually begin to rest 
> in
> > peace.
> > 
> > Tim Rowan
> > Colorado Springs
> 
> 
> Dear Mr. Rowan,
> 
> By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
> bickering on this 
> forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
> peace, you imply 
> that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
> program -- called "The 
> Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm" -- that wasn't very
> effective.  
> After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
> and countless 
> hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
> Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
> enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
> overcome our 
> admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
> YOU saying about 
> the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
> during his lifetime?
> 
> I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
> YOU who is 
> showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
> implying that he was 
> both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
> choosing a spiritual 
> path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
> would, at the 
> very least, expect from more than three decades of
> devotion.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk

Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
Please, nobody answer that question!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
> > > to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
> > > *other* up?
> >
> > Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
> > of "spunge-brain syndrome."
> >
> > Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
> > go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
> > that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
> 
> A good glass of wine would do wonders.

I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
either of them ever even *approached* being
human.  :-)

The gist of this act seems to be, "Ok everyone
on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
my opponent is."

Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 

Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.

Both of them think we in the "audience" are 
interested in the results.

Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
happens if they "win" and "prove" that the other
person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?

The "winner" will have proved that the "loser"
is a bit of a retard.

And by doing so, the "winner" will have proved
that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.

Now THAT's a real challenge, right?

:-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Peter

--- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> >> On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your
> part, I won't play
> >>> your "reread what I said" or your "first get it
> straight" redirect.
> >>>
> >>> Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.
> >>
> >> Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two
> are going to waste on
> >> this silliness before they stop beating each
> *other* up?
> >
> > Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
> > of "spunge-brain syndrome."
> >
> > Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
> > go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
> > that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
> 
>   A good glass of wine would do wonders.
> 
> Sal

And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 1/28/08 6:20:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> And  nothing gives me more pleasure than to see an extreme liberal 
> like Judy  continually endorse the Clintons and defend Bill Clinton, a 
> man who headed  the most conservative administration of the past 50 
> years 
> 
> Yes,  Clinton's eight years saw even MORE conservative legislation 
> passed into  law than under Ronald Reagan:
> 
> - Defense of Marriage Act
> 
> -  NAFTA
> 
> - Balanced the budget
> 
> - Welfare Reform
> 
> - Support  for the death penalty (indeed, Clinton went out of his way 
> to return to  Arkansas during his presidential campaign to make sure a 
> retarded Black  Man was put to death).
> 
> So, I laugh and snicker with glee to see Judy  defend Bill Clinton! 
> Go for it, Judy!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank God Clinton had to deal with a conservative congress that
wouldn't  
> send him the kind of legislation he really would like to have  signed.


Too bad G.W. Bush's Congress wasn't anything like that for the first
six years.






[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > > If you're not willing to go to the trouble to find
> > > out what each of them really said, why should
> > > anybody take your opinion seriously?
> > 
> > This is why Judy has never, ever been wrong in a debate.
> 
> Actually, it's why you've never, ever been right
> in a debate with me--because you simply refuse to
> do your homework, and then you crap out. It's just
> sheer intellectual sloth. Why should I--why should
> anybody--waste time debating somebody who doesn't
> know what the hell they're talking about?
> 
> And I'm hardly the first person to point this out
> to you, Shemp.


Amen!







[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Roberto
 (snip)
> 
> You're a terrible mind-reader. No, that wasn't
> "innocent." On the other hand, Obama's no
> innocent either. The notion that he's not running
> as an African American, and that therefore any
> acknowledgment of his race is "playing the race
> card," is ludicrous. He wants to have it both ways.
  (snip)
Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
This whole thing happened recently.
Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
event, back in December...
For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to tap into.
Since that time, this has only increased.
He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people together.
Hillary and Bill have been polarizing figures, now and in the past.
I don't see why they would deserve another stint in the WH.
Why not give a new generation a chance to experience an inspirational 
leader who very much reminds people of the idealism and the inspiration 
political/spiritual leaders of the sixties.
The Clintons, like the Bush's are political leaders.
Obama, like the Kennedy's transcend politics somewhat and become 
spiritual inspirational leaders- which are certainly more rare.
It's a tough world for sure, and a cynical world at that.
So, it's hard to except that things could really change.
The choice isn't between black or white or man or woman.
It's deeper than that.
 



[FairfieldLife] 'Turning Over Tables in the Temple'

2008-01-29 Thread Robert
Yesterday, it felt like the Status Quo moved a bit...
  No longer is Bill Clinton the leader he once was...
  The Clintons seem stale and plastic now.
  It's as if Teddy Kennedy Baptized a new leader yesterday:
  Someone who speaks to the soul, like Bobby or John.
  Someone ready to take the reins and move us forward.
  The days of poll tested,  plastic fantastic performances:
  Ended.
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: An Outside View in to Fairfield

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> An outside view of Communal Meditating Fairfield
> A critical analysis 
> I like this 1844 essay for some good parallels to the present in 
>the 
> analysis.
 
> The delineation of the 3 ways people look to participate is a good 
> way of seeing some of the why and the character of who has come to 
> the modern FF version of American utopian experiment.  Also, the 
> observation about the corrupting influence of money on their group, 
> segmenting of the group by the handling of money.  Can see this 
>even 
> now.
>


Critically also, the 'inside' views.  For instance from within 
Fairfield Meditators ranged in 
this thread:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/162397




 
> Traveling around the state of Iowa now I often find people who look 
> from the outside wondering what is going on in Fairfield.  Most 
>often 
> they have only a general monolithic sense of Fairfield with 
> its `meditators'.  Picture they may get from the Des Moines 
>Register 
> about MUM or other media notes and TMmovement promotions.  Mostly 
> they see something that is `different' going on here without much 
>of 
> a discerning handle on it.  So there is a frequent question about 
> what is going on in Fairfield, wanting an inside view.
> 
> In truth of course it is not monolithic at all here.  That the 
> utopian spiritual practice community which is in Fairfield now is 
> mature and way more diverse than the TMmovement now.  That it is 
> utopian, experiment, is very American actually and is much more 
>than 
> the TMmovement, in Fairfield.  
> 
> The fun in running in to people and being introduced as being from 
> Fairfield is to see that interest in folks where they recognize 
> Fairfield for what is has become. Where they can tell that it is 
much 
> more than the TMmovement and that the meditator community is in 
fact 
> way more diverse.  Even made up of folks like everyone else except 
> that meditators pursue active spiritual practice here.  That it is 
> way more than TM, is very utopian, large in thinking but that 
it 
> is in fact also very American.   
> 
>
> 
> Fairfield. Meditators. The meditating churches, the meditating 
> satsangs, some meditators remaining on campus,the meditators up in 
> VC, the meditating community off-campus out in FF & meditators out 
in 
> the greater Jefferson County area.
> 
> 
> 
> This `outside view' essay was part of a larger book chronicling the 
> life of Brook Farm, an early-American transcendentalist utopian 
> communal experiment of the 1840's, similar in ways to Fairfield.
> 
> This is a good read: 
> http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/etext05/brkfm10.htm
> 
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 
> 
> 
> AN OUTSIDE VIEW OF Communal (Meditating Fairfield). Critical 
Analysis:
> 
> _From the Dial of January, 1844._
> 
> Though familiarly designated a "Community," it is only so in the
> process of eating in commons; a practice at least as antiquated as 
the
> collegiate halls of old England, where it still continues without
> producing, as far as we can learn, any of the Spartan virtues. A
> residence at (meditating Fairfield) does not involve either a 
> community of money,
> of opinions or of sympathy. The motives which bring individuals 
there,
> may be as various as their numbers. In fact, the present residents 
are
> divisible into three distinct classes; and if the majority in 
numbers
> were considered, it is possible that a vote in favor of self-
sacrifice
> for the common good would not be very strongly carried.
> 
> The leading portion of the adult inmates, they whose presence 
imparts
> the greatest peculiarity and the fraternal tone to the household,
> believe that an improved state of existence would be developed in
> Association, and are therefore anxious to promote it. Another class
> consists of those who join with the view of bettering their 
condition,
> by being exempt from some portion of worldly strife. The third 
portion
> comprises those who have their own development or education for 
their
> principal object.
> 
> Practically, too, the institution manifests a threefold improvement
> over the world at large, corresponding to these three motives. In
> consequence of the first, the companionship, the personal 
intercourse,
> the social bearing, are of a marked and very superior character. 
There
> may possibly to some minds, long accustomed to other modes, appear a
> want of homeness and of the private fireside; but all observers must
> acknowledge a brotherly and softening condition, highly conducive to
> the permanent and pleasant growth of all the better human 
qualities. 
> If
> the life is not of a deeply religious cast, it is at least not 
> inferior
> to that which is exemplified elsewhere, and there is the advantage 
of
> an entire absence of assumption and pretence. The moral atmosphere, 
so
> far, is pure; and there is found a strong desire to walk ev

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
> > your "reread what I said" or your "first get it straight" redirect.
> >
> > Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.

Get a checking !



[FairfieldLife] Hearts of High Eenas??

2008-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Rgveda X 95, 15

puruuravo maa mRthaa maa pra papto
maa tvaa vRkaaso ashivaasa u kShan  |
na vai straiNaani sakhyaani santi 
saalaavRkaaNaaM hRdayaany etaa  || 

15 Nay, do not die, Purûravas, nor vanish: let not the evil-omened 
wolves devour thee.
With women there can be no lasting friendship: hearts of hyenas are 
the hearts of women.

Attempt at pada-paaTha:

puruuravaH maa mRthaa(?) maa pra paptaH
maa tvaa vRkaasaH ashiva+aasaH(??) u kSan  |
na vai straiNaani sakhyaani santi 
saalaa-vRkaaNaaM hRdayaani etaa  || 

puruuravo (Puruuravas) maa (do not) mRthaa (die)
 maa (do not) pra papto (vanish)
maa (let not) tvaa (thee) vRkaaso (wolves)
ashivaasa (evil-omened)  u kSan (devour)  |
na (not) vai(indeed) straiNaani (female) 
 sakhyaani (friends) santi ([there] are) 
saalaavRkaaNaaM[1] (of hyenas) hRdayaany (hearts)
 etaa ([are] those)  || 

[1] sAlAvRtika m. (in later language mostly %{shAlA-vRka}) `" house-
wolf (?) "' , a kind of wolf or hyena or jackal or similar animal 
RV. &c. &c. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
your "reread what I said" or your "first get it straight" redirect.

Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.


Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going to waste on
this silliness before they stop beating each *other* up?


Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
of "spunge-brain syndrome."

Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
that they're making absolute asses of themselves.


 A good glass of wine would do wonders.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
> > your "reread what I said" or your "first get it straight" redirect.
> >
> > Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.
> 
> Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going to waste on  
> this silliness before they stop beating each *other* up?

Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
of "spunge-brain syndrome." 

Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
that they're making absolute asses of themselves.





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry that your body is so out of balance that 
> > it can't handle a glass of wine without becoming dull. 
> > But to believe that this disability makes you "better" 
> > than those who do not have such a limitation? 
> 
> Turq,
> 
> I'm thinking it may be because our brains are not made of a 
> "spunge like material" so it doesn't absorb the alcohol in 
> our brains causing the anesthesia effect that plagues him. 
> In our non "spunge like" brains, the unabsorbed alcohol can 
> get to the brain's "charming repartee" centers where it does 
> the most good!

Last I checked, 'spunge' was a colloquialism 
for ejaculate. I suspect that if one's brain
IS made of spunge, alcohol might make it dull. 
Those of us with regular brains can probably 
skate by with just a light buzz and an apprec-
iation of the smells and flavors of a good
Cabernet.  :-)

The thing is, people on these forums sometimes
forget how WEIRD they are compared to the world
they live in. They believe that a glass of wine
makes them dull and poisons them. Some of them
believe that *ice cream* is bad for them.

If that's how they choose to live their lives,
cool. I have no problem with what they choose
to believe. But when they try to present the
weird things they've chosen to believe as if
believing them makes them BETTER than other
people in the world? Sorry...I'm not buyin' 
that. 

All 'me' and no glass 'o wine with a good meal
makes Jack a dull egofuckin'maniac.