[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and Drug-use Pollicy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Ps. As bad as the non-meditator is for group consciousness and Meissner effect (ME) in human consciousness, this thing of the drug-using meditator fallen away needs a final solution to be found. I am thinking that a committee for `public safety' probably ought to be formed to deal with such inebriates. I propose a scientific solution. Do a survey to find out how many On The Program TMers in Fairfield have been involved in illegal activities that harm other humans -- theft, fraud, extortion, and all the other shady, immoral prac- tices that have been mentioned on this holy forum over the years. Then do the same for the druggie group. Then do the math. If the druggie group has been guilty of more harmful activities than the TM group, it's War time -- exterminate them. Round them up and use humane methods to speed them to their next incarnation. Of course, if it turns out that the TM group has done more of these things, we must exterminate them. It's a war. There can be no hostages. The very fabric and future of society are at stake. Leave this not up to whim but to holy science. He who has a track record of the most bad karma must perish. The end justifies the means.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:01 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Edg could have responeded to Grate with a 'fuck you attitude like many here do. Instead he responded in what I would desribe a more balanced way, leaving the door open for further, dialogue. And what does Grate do. He also responds in a friendler, emotional tone. I think this is what they call more enlightened conflict resolution. Different than the normal fare we often get here. Of course there are no rules when responding to someone we think has just said something not PC, right? I mean dialog and civility can't allow someone saying something that violates what we feel are the proper sense of values, can we? We are honor bound to pummel such a person until they see the world through our eyes, right? Either that or threaten to do something bad to them in real life, like accusing them of sending you porn or posting the private details of their lives on a Website. I am the Eternal makes a good point re the situation Lurk has brought to our attention. People are starting to stray from the Holy Judy Doctrine. This is potentially far worse than a few backsliding meditators toking up on weed. The whole fabric of society could unravel if FFL becomes something other than the Holy Barroom Brawl we expect it to be. Fight for your right to fight!!! Don't accept any of this pussy non-confront- ational conflict resolution here. It's Off The Program!!! If someone says something you don't like, call them names! Insult them! Call them liars! Threaten them with some real-life retribution! Do anything you can to claim that they have no credibility and you do! THESE are the tried and true methods of what we have come to know as defending the faith. They worked for our ancestors, and they will work for us. Don't allow these newfangled ideas of conflict resolution to poison and weaken our knowledge of the Truth and our holy quest to impose that Truth on everyone.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are *indulging* in the emotion because they don't actually feel much emotion most of the time. They don't feel (or at any rate don't write here about feeling) emotion about the quiet and subtle things in life. Stuff like the appreciation of a great sunrise or sunset, the laughter of child- ren, the way your body feels after a good run. Marek is a clear example of someone who *is* capable of doing this. His posts on surfing and his and Edg's posts on the rush of Trikking are often the closest we get to positive emotions on this forum. And I am not exactly the gold standard in this regard, either; I sometimes gush about movies I have seen that turn me on, but too often I don't express enought positive emotion, either. But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Someone pointing out a racist remark made by a person who once *bragged* about being a racist becomes an issue so emotional that the person threatens real-world retaliation. Someone criticizes (or worse, laughs at) Maha- rishi and others react as if *they* had been criticized, or attacked physically. Point out that Hillary Clinton has a proven track record as more of a creator of conflict rather than a resolver of it, and some turn that into a slur against all women. I'm not actually *complaining* about all this manufactured emotion. It's what makes FFL entertaining. It's like watching a soap opera. High drama, low consciousness. My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. Good emotions include bhakti meltdowns when talking about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and God. Another good emotion is righteous anger, when someone says something negative about any of that holy trinity, or TM itself. Bad emotions involve anything that suggests that you're still (spit) human, and mired in Maya, like...uh... tolerance of opinions that differ from yours, or tolerance of someone perceiving Maharishi, TM, the TMO, or you differently than you'd like them to be perceived. Stick with the good emotions, and amplify them out of proportion. That's the FFL Way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
Right on. I'm gonna go to New Orleans Music Exchange, a really old place here and browse around. Thanks for your inspiration. I'm really gonna do it. Never too early to start practicing to be a Beatle in my next life. Thanks again. Your response was full of info and I will need to study it. Love U - peace. - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Kirk, You have asked the right man. First because I am a big fan of yours here, and second because I am the biggest evangelist of late-life instrument learning that I know. I spent the last few years teaching a 70 year old to play blues guitar. He performed for his family many times before his untimely death this year. It is NEVER too late to enjoy guitar. So say you decided to learn guitar at 50. Great you are young like me. You will have NO trouble at all. Do you suppose a good sounding guitar wuld proote practice and how as a non music reader would you go about it. Unless the only music that moves your soul is classical forget about reading music. Guitar tab was created for the rest of us and it is much easier. Plus now you can learn most songs you want with video instructions from youtube. Type in your favorite song's name and guitar lesson to see what I mean. I use it almost every day. consider because as a fan you would just wanto to do it but to do it well. Guitar is the instrument of the people, it always has been. The great thing about guitar is that is delivers such pleasure in a few months that for most instruments take years. But it also is bigger than any of us so you can grow with it for your whole life. There is no end to what you can learn on guitar. Vaj will back me on this. It is a monster instrument which can deliver great pleasure in a few months of practice and keep you challenged for the rest of your life. Or something. Sory if this is too basic. What's a really good lesser expensive guitar, probably acoustic or steel string. I wish you were in DC. I would take you down to the Guitar Center and find the best action solid top they had for around $300. But that's OK cuz your local guitar center has a resident guitar geek who can help you to find the solid top guitar with the best action for a beginner. Use light strings at first and tune down a half step like Jimi and Stevie Ray to help your fingers get strong. If $300 is too much get one for what you can afford with a good feeling to it. Let your guitar store geek help you find one with good action. The key is to get one in your hands. As long as it has good action the quality is secondary. Don't wait till you have the money for a top intrument or you may lose your chance to start. Kirk, you gotta do this! Guitar is one of the greatest pleasures in life and it is never too late to start. In a few years you will be playing amazing stuff if you love it and put your fingers on the strings each day for a few minutes. I would love to come visit you and get you started, but feel free to call me from the number at my Website about your guitar www.curtisblues.com or email me privately. Get the free SKYPE program and a video cam and I'll give you you lessons to get your started. I am always happy to help another person to enter the bliss of a relationship with the guitar. It is one of the biggest secrets of happiness in life that I have discovered. You can do it and you will LOVE it Kirk. You have so much personal joy from playing to look forward to. It takes some dues to cultivate your fingers to be able to comfortably form the few chords you need to play 90% of popular music. Everyone thinks their hands are too small for guitar at first. Most guitarists are self-taught. There are as many ways to approach the instrument as there are people on earth. It is that wide a musical road you are starting on. You will find your own way. Everyone's fingers hurt at first and you think you are the only person who can't learn guitar. But you CAN. And you will LOVE it. I hope that helps you catch a fire brother! Guitar is a universe. It gives me so much every day of my life. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and Drug-use Pollicy
I propose a scientific solution. Do a survey to find out how many On The Program TMers in Fairfield have been involved in illegal activities that harm other humans -- theft, fraud, extortion, and all the other shady, immoral prac- tices that have been mentioned on this holy forum over the years. Then do the same for the druggie group. Then do the math. If the druggie group has been guilty of more harmful activities than the TM group, it's War time -- exterminate them. Round them up and use humane methods to speed them to their next incarnation. Of course, if it turns out that the TM group has done more of these things, we must exterminate them. It's a war. There can be no hostages. The very fabric and future of society are at stake. Leave this not up to whim but to holy science. He who has a track record of the most bad karma must perish. The end justifies the means. -It says in the Bible that Sidhas will not rapture until all infidels have been nuked to extinction because then all those samskaras will be liberated and us more peaceful lovers of life will be able to float as based in our own powerful transcendence without all those shitty rakshashas holding us down like liliputians.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Church of the Universe'
I need 420 dollars to join. It says, BYOS (Bring your own sacraments). - Original Message - From: Robert To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Church of the Universe' http://somaseeds.nl/sacred.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
Turq, I just come write here because it fills the space between getting stoned and staring at the wall. This intercourse is the only intercourse I get during week days and is what the world calls interactive. Thus I am no longer a couch potato. Now I'm more like a chair sea cucumber. At any rate, just describing my presence. I have no secret doctrine. In fact my copy of Secret Doctrine was so heavy I had to use it to prop up my house after Katrina. Blavatsky's tomes are good for that, that and reaching high places. It's too bad the only people who took her seriously had children who then had more children because now we have things like 'Ascended Masters' and 'seven rays of judgement.' From Blavatsky and Besant and Ledbetter the Theosophists have become distraught and fallen Born Agains of the Straight Edge 'Woo Woo' religion, holding their limp prospects like men who needs Viagra. Maitreya Maitreya they call, will be on TV. Bwahahhahahaha, will someone give that man some Zoloft. Actually, this group is alot like a daily dose of Zoloft. And laughter is good for the Jiva. In fact, a giggle a day keeps the Atman becoming one with brahman. Uh, that didn't rhyme. It was a sutra, it should be repeated at fifteen second intervals, you know the way Sunday drivers put on their brakes. Don't drink coffee so early. Krip toe nite, must, smoke, pot, or, lose, powers. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Right on. I'm gonna go to New Orleans Music Exchange, a really old place here and browse around. Thanks for your inspiration. I'm really gonna do it. Never too early to start practicing to be a Beatle in my next life. Thanks again. Your response was full of info and I will need to study it. Love U - peace. A simple exercise I developed years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieTpwz2eXeY Works for any instrumentalist and you don't have to carry around a guitar to do it. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Kirk wrote: Right on. I'm gonna go to New Orleans Music Exchange, a really old place here and browse around. Thanks for your inspiration. I'm really gonna do it. Never too early to start practicing to be a Beatle in my next life. Thanks again. Your response was full of info and I will need to study it. Love U - peace. Or as a bridge to the guitar, you could get inspired on a Strumstick: http://www.strumstick.com/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:36 AM On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Kirk wrote: Right on. I'm gonna go to New Orleans Music Exchange, a really old place here and browse around. Thanks for your inspiration. I'm really gonna do it. Never too early to start practicing to be a Beatle in my next life. Thanks again. Your response was full of info and I will need to study it. Love U - peace. Or as a bridge to the guitar, you could get inspired on a Strumstick: http://www.strumstick.com/ Or as bridge to idiocy, GUITAR HERO! http://hub.guitarhero.com/index_us.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest point of 52.8 in July 1930 (with 1935-39 = 100) and was practically unchanged at 54.3 in March 1933; however by July 1933, it reached 85.5, a dramatic rebound of 57% in four months. Recovery was steady and strong until 1937. Except for unemployment, the economy by 1937 surpassed the levels of the late 1920s. The Recession of 1937 was a temporary downturn. Private sector employment, especially in manufacturing, recovered to the level of the 1920s but failed to advance further until the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal - U.S. Gross Domestic Product 1929-1941 - See chart: http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif http://snipurl.com/cxnm2 Total employment in the United States from 1920 to 1940, excluding farms and WPA. Data was obtained from the U.S. Census Bureau Statistical Abstracts and converted into SVG format GRAPH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Employment_Graph_-_1920_to_1940.svg http://snipurl.com/cxnsn --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The banking system often has been characterized as parasitic. The metaphor is appropriate on more than one plane. Most people think of parasites simply as leeches, draining nourishment from the host. But biological nature is more complex. In order for parasites to succeed they must first numb the host's pain-warning system so that they can get a foothold. They then take control of the host's brain. The trick the host into believing that the parasite is part of its own body, and indeed even its child, to be nurtured, protected and given preference. They turn the host into a zombie. So the problem we are facing is not zombie banks, but the ability of Wall Street to create a zombie economy. -- Michael Hudson. Read More: http://tinyurl.com/dync4n The stimulus package arrived with the price tag and on roughly the schedule Obama had set for it. The president's job approval percentage now ranges from the mid 60s (Gallup, Pew) to mid 70s (CNN) not bad for a guy who won the presidency with 52.9 percent of the vote. While 48 percent of Americans told CBS, Gallup and Pew that they approve of Congressional Democrats, only 31 (Gallup), 32 (CBS) and 34 (Pew) percent could say the same of their G.O.P. counterparts. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/opinion/15rich.html?_r=1 Gallup - February 27, 2009 - Obama Approval Rating *Increases* to 67% http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx
[FairfieldLife] Guidance can never be the same for all?
Guidance can never be the same for all. Countless are the varieties of temperament, training, environment, hereditary and pre-natal tendencies and so on. So it is impossible to expect any single stereotyped system of conduct to suit all beings. - Jagadguru Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahaswami of Sringeri Math
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and Drug-use Pollicy
On Mar 1, 2009, at 10:37 PM, I am the eternal wrote: We could start with, His Royal Highness Doctor John Haglain Supreme Ruler of the Domain of Consciousness for the Unites States of America Well, it was getting funny until you stopped laying it on with trowel and started using a backhoe. If you could have kept it along the lines of There's trouble right here in River City instead of bringing in insult upon insult, you would have had classic there. What's insulting about what he wrote aboe? Isn't that how Hagelin refers to himself, in theory if not in fact? If anyone wants some very interesting reading about the US which as most history, applies to right now, read up of the temperance campaign time in the US. Just as we used to have smoking and non-smoking parts of restaurants, bars and lodging, Don't we have that now? we also used to have non-drinking rail cars (even whole trains), non-drinking hotels, boarding houses, even non-drinking parts of town. Got that too. Any place that doesn't have a liquor license is by def non-drinking. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip If someone says something you don't like, call them names! Insult them! Call them liars! Threaten them with some real-life retribution! Do anything you can to claim that they have no credibility and you do! In fact, we should all follow the example of Sri Barry, from whose sacred lips pours a veritable fountain of the milk of human kindness. Oh, wait, no, he's throwing up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Just to inject a note of reality here (sorry): This example didn't occur in a vacuum; it came on the heels of a long series of increasingly vicious and ugly denunciations of feminists and feminism, in response to a post in which two feminists here were described not only as bursting into flames but also as dumb angry cunts *too stupid to live* (emphasis added). As I noted at the time: When you publicly envision the violent deaths of two people at whom you've been spewing the most vicious hatred, you've gone over the edge, no matter how desperately you pretend you were just trying to be funny. (Note that Barry's Rules prescribe that *he* is permitted to let his negative emotions take him over the edge, but the people he doesn't like are not.) snip My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. ROTFL!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus though Uh, Betty, stimulating the economy is what this government spending is specifically designed to do. Everybody else is reluctant to spend in this economic climate even if they still have any money. excuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 years So what's your solution, more tax cuts for the wealthy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
Some tangential thoughts -- First, we are all liars. If lying is not telling the truth. And who here knows the truth? Second, we sit in our own living space (our heads and hearts) and read what someone else wrote from their living space. Its certainly not uncommon that what we hear is not what was spoken. Or at least we hear something other that the intent or mood of what was spoken. Two mistakes are possible. 1) Someone says something neutral to nice, in an enthusiastic or funny way or at least neutral way, and we go bonkers, hearing inside our heads, an attack, thinking it an insult. So we rip off some choice words to protect our territory, our pride. The cycle of vindictiveness starts (and rarely then stops soon) 2) Someone says something nasty to us, and we interpret it as coming from a kind and loving soul -- and respond with these qualities. Which mistake gets us in more trouble? And ruins the dinner party? Number one of course. So what is the downside of always responding per door #2? Not much. It would seem the lowest risk, least stressful, and collectively enhancing path is door #2. In response to all posts. Makes sense. Let me take it our for a spin for a week. See how it takes the corners. Let love reign -- down upon us :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are *indulging* in the emotion because they don't actually feel much emotion most of the time. They don't feel (or at any rate don't write here about feeling) emotion about the quiet and subtle things in life. Stuff like the appreciation of a great sunrise or sunset, the laughter of child- ren, the way your body feels after a good run. Marek is a clear example of someone who *is* capable of doing this. His posts on surfing and his and Edg's posts on the rush of Trikking are often the closest we get to positive emotions on this forum. And I am not exactly the gold standard in this regard, either; I sometimes gush about movies I have seen that turn me on, but too often I don't express enought positive emotion, either. But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Someone pointing out a racist remark made by a person who once *bragged* about being a racist becomes an issue so emotional that the person threatens real-world retaliation. Someone criticizes (or worse, laughs at) Maha- rishi and others react as if *they* had been criticized, or attacked physically. Point out that Hillary Clinton has a proven track record as more of a creator of conflict rather than a resolver of it, and some turn that into a slur against all women. I'm not actually *complaining* about all this manufactured emotion. It's what makes FFL entertaining. It's like watching a soap opera. High drama, low consciousness. My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. Good emotions include bhakti meltdowns when talking about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and God. Another good emotion is righteous anger, when someone says something negative about any of that holy trinity, or TM itself. Bad emotions involve anything that suggests that you're still (spit) human, and mired in Maya, like...uh... tolerance of opinions that differ from yours, or tolerance of someone perceiving Maharishi, TM, the TMO, or you differently than you'd like them to be perceived. Stick with the good emotions, and amplify them out of proportion. That's the FFL Way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Let love reign -- down upon us :) So just to clarify, you are requesting a golden shower here right? Some tangential thoughts -- First, we are all liars. If lying is not telling the truth. And who here knows the truth? Second, we sit in our own living space (our heads and hearts) and read what someone else wrote from their living space. Its certainly not uncommon that what we hear is not what was spoken. Or at least we hear something other that the intent or mood of what was spoken. Two mistakes are possible. 1) Someone says something neutral to nice, in an enthusiastic or funny way or at least neutral way, and we go bonkers, hearing inside our heads, an attack, thinking it an insult. So we rip off some choice words to protect our territory, our pride. The cycle of vindictiveness starts (and rarely then stops soon) 2) Someone says something nasty to us, and we interpret it as coming from a kind and loving soul -- and respond with these qualities. Which mistake gets us in more trouble? And ruins the dinner party? Number one of course. So what is the downside of always responding per door #2? Not much. It would seem the lowest risk, least stressful, and collectively enhancing path is door #2. In response to all posts. Makes sense. Let me take it our for a spin for a week. See how it takes the corners. Let love reign -- down upon us :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are *indulging* in the emotion because they don't actually feel much emotion most of the time. They don't feel (or at any rate don't write here about feeling) emotion about the quiet and subtle things in life. Stuff like the appreciation of a great sunrise or sunset, the laughter of child- ren, the way your body feels after a good run. Marek is a clear example of someone who *is* capable of doing this. His posts on surfing and his and Edg's posts on the rush of Trikking are often the closest we get to positive emotions on this forum. And I am not exactly the gold standard in this regard, either; I sometimes gush about movies I have seen that turn me on, but too often I don't express enought positive emotion, either. But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Someone pointing out a racist remark made by a person who once *bragged* about being a racist becomes an issue so emotional that the person threatens real-world retaliation. Someone criticizes (or worse, laughs at) Maha- rishi and others react as if *they* had been criticized, or attacked physically. Point out that Hillary Clinton has a proven track record as more of a creator of conflict rather than a resolver of it, and some turn that into a slur against all women. I'm not actually *complaining* about all this manufactured emotion. It's what makes FFL entertaining. It's like watching a soap opera. High drama, low consciousness. My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. Good emotions include bhakti meltdowns when talking about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and God. Another good emotion is righteous anger, when someone says something negative about any of that holy trinity, or TM itself. Bad emotions involve anything that suggests that you're still (spit) human, and mired in Maya, like...uh... tolerance of opinions that differ from yours, or tolerance of someone perceiving Maharishi, TM, the TMO, or you differently than you'd like them to be perceived. Stick with the good emotions, and amplify them out of proportion. That's the FFL Way.
[FairfieldLife] What's the right thing to do for the Slumdog Millionaire kids?
In the news we see that two of the film's child actors are living in the slums again -- both so young as to not know the complexities of the world, both still, a week later, wearing the clothing they wore while walking the red carpet at the Oscars. I think that the producer of the film should reward these kids' families with enough money such that the kids can have far better homes. It seems the money went into trust funds for the kids, but there should have been agent fees or something to reward the parents so that these kids -- who got to live a western lifestyle for a while -- should not be victimized by having been shown heaven and then sent back to hell. I've been to cardboard and corrugated iron shack-towns in Indonesia, and it boggled my western sensibilities. It is one thing that these exist at all, it is one thing that 30,000 kids die each day from living in such conditions, but it is another to take a child from such and then put them back into it. It may turn out that the producers did the right thing and gave the parents some decent bucks to escape the slums, and maybe the parents are living in the slums purposely to shame the producers into giving more money and using photo ops of the kids in the slums as a way to beg, but I doubt that. To me this is a pretty open and shut case of greedy marauding that is made all the more egregious by the fact that the film was such a financial success and yet, still, the coffers didn't overflow to these poor kids. Probably there's many others associated with the film that are equally left out of the sharing of profits. I wrote one of the most successful infomercials ever for Ed Beckley who promised me and another person that if the infomercial hit the big time he'd take care of us. We were both working for Fairfield standard pay -- $2,000 a month. The infomercial went on to rake in over $180,000,000 in sales -- pots and pans if you can believe it. What did I get for my success-reward? Nada. Well, I'm a big guy and I learned to never work on a handshake again, but I think it's one of the worst kinds of sin when one is shown heaven (Oscars or Cookware Sales) and then the promise is simply broken by those who should be so overflowing with happiness at the wind-fall success, but it seems that the more money that comes to one, the more one feels like even more money must come before one is safe enough to have an overflowing of the heart. And what the hell, eh? The director, Danny Boyle?, of Slumdog Millionaire, the producers, and others must have personally made millions of dollars from this film -- and no one could pony up a few bucks for decent living conditions for the actors? WTF are they thinking -- where's their PR agents screaming at them to get these kids out of the headlines? Where's them thinking about a sequel and how the world will view it as an abuse upon children, etc.? Those kids stole the hearts of the audience, and I predict that someone is going to cough up something for them, but shame, shame, shame on those who have not yet done so and should have. Edg
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins-stands-uprigh t-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews.
[FairfieldLife] Details: Re: What's the right thing to do for the Slumdog Millionaire kids?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/6247418.html MUMBAI, India This tangled neighborhood of pieced-together shacks along a railroad track seems an unlikely residence for movie stars. But here is where two of the child stars of the hit movie Slumdog Millionaire live, amid the rusted tin lean-tos in the shadow of this city's high-rises for the wealthy. The 8-year-old actors are at the center of controversy surrounding the Golden Globes-winning rags-to-riches movie. The film hit a nerve in India, launching soul-searching debates over the actors' compensation, the movie's portrait of the country's vast poor and the title's use of the word dog, which some slum dwellers consider so offensive that they ransacked a theater in Bihar's state capital of Patna, where the film was being shown in India for the first time. Emerging from her tiny, windowless shanty, the pixie-haired Rubina Ali, who plays the young romantic interest early in the film, says she loved making the movie and snapping photographs of Bollywood idols on the set. For the first time in her life, she set foot inside the city's many five-star hotels. But her father, Rafiq Ali Kureshi, a carpenter who said he was a set builder for the film, broke his leg during filming and has been unemployed since. Living farther along the sludge-coated tracks is Azharuddin Ismail, who played the young brother of the film's main character. His family's illegal shanty was recently demolished, and his father is suffering from tuberculosis. They live under a tarp. Much of his salary from the film has been spent on his father's treatment and feeding his family, he said. Uncle Danny has sent us to school and is paying for that and we are happy, said Rubina, using a term of affection to refer to Danny Boyle, the film's British director. But it's still very tough for us. Slumdog Millionaire or Slumdog Crorepati, as the Hindi-language version is known received 10 Oscar nominations and became the modern-day fairy tale of the year in multiplexes across America. Amid the film's U.S. box-office success it had grossed almost $60 million by last weekend comes ever-rising scrutiny within India of Boyle and the film's distributors. They are accused of not having done enough to compensate some of the younger Indian actors and extras who worked on the film, and have been called peddlers of the country's poverty. Editorial writers and film critics have said that Slumdog's popularity raises a larger issue: To what extent are filmmakers and artists responsible for improving the lives and fixing the societal dysfunction that made their movies possible? Or does that responsibility ultimately rest with a society or government, once its conscience has been pricked? We feel strongly that we want to do all we can for Rubina and Azharuddin, especially long term. And we have started the process of talking about what our responsibilities are. But at the end of the day, it is just a movie, Boyle said in an interview. In the end, India will have to address its own issues. They are too big to be solved by our efforts alone, although we can try. Despite its recent economic growth, India still has the largest number of malnourished children younger than 5 in the world a total estimated by the United Nations at 57 million along with some of the largest slums, especially here in the country's entertainment and financial capital, where a vast stretch of low-lying tin roofs is the first thing visitors see from airplanes on arrival. Boyle has put both Rubina and Azharuddin in schools their first time to attend and set up a trust fund that they can access once they finish their education. The film's producers insist they have been generous, paying them more than three times the average annual salary of any adult in their neighborhood. The children's parents dispute those figures. This week, Britain's Daily Telegraph quoted the parents as saying Rubina received 500 pounds, or roughly $730 at current exchange rates, for filming and Azharuddin, $2,475. The film producers have said the actors were paid more and given monthly and yearly stipends for schooling, although they did not release specific amounts. A third young actor, Ayush Mahesh Khedekar, comes from a middle-class family; his compensation has so far not been an issue. Filmed on a modest $15 million budget, the two-hour film tells the harrowing tale of Jamal Malik, an orphan of Mumbai's teeming slum, whose search for the girl he loves leads him to try to win India's version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, hoping she will see him on the popular show. He answers the questions correctly but is arrested for cheating because no one believes a slum boy could have such knowledge. The film, however, has a happy ending, with a classic Bollywood song-and-dance extravaganza. The filmmakers, though, get a more troubled ending. Some in the Indian media have called the movie a poverty tour that turns a profit by using
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the right thing to do for the Slumdog Millionaire kids?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: In the news we see that two of the film's child actors are living in the slums again -- both so young as to not know the complexities of the world, both still, a week later, wearing the clothing they wore while walking the red carpet at the Oscars. I think that the producer of the film should reward these kids' families with enough money such that the kids can have far better homes. How much of the profits from the toys you designed and that sold well did you share with the people in the factories that made them, or with the salespeople who sold them, or with the people who write ad copy for them? *Theoretically*, people who make a big splash should share a bit of the wealth with others who helped to make it happen, but does it hap- pen all that often? Our own Stu, a multiple Emmy Award nominee and one-time winner of that award, I'm sure he got a percentage of the profits from the TV series he helped to make hits, right? I'm sure he can just sit back and coast on those earnings now, and no longer has to work, right? Not. It either happens or it doesn't. That doesn't mean that people who would *like* to see it happen have a right to badrap those who didn't make it happen. That's a little too much like My shit don't stink but theirs does to me. *Theoretically*, the maker of the film that has the best ROI in film history -- Robert Rodriguez' El Mariachi -- should have spread the wealth around a bit. The film was made on a budget of $7000. Robert earned part of the money by checking himself into a laboratory/clinic for six months and allowing doctors to shoot experimental drugs into his system. The film then went on to make more than $2,000,000. *Theoretically*, Robert should have taken a little of that money and given some to the guys who loaned him cameras and gave him film stock for free. He should have given a little of it to the childhood friends who starred in the film and to the Mexican cops who loaned them their jail and weapons so that they could make the movie. Oh wait. He did. So *sometimes* people act the way they should, if the world were a more perfect place. And other times they don't. But until you spread the wealth from your own inventions around to the peons who brought the toys to market, I'd stop short of jumping on the Let's dump on this feel-good film any way we can bandwagon by trashing the producers of Slumdog Millionaire. Hopefully they done right by most of the people involved in the production. Hope- fully. But even if they didn't, it's not your job to bust them on it until you've done the same thing you're asking them to do. Right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! The plan provides immediate tax relief targeted at middle income which provides the highest spending ratio. It provides funding for millions of new jobs. It provides relief to states to continue services which allow them to keep jobs and provide aid which allows people to continue spending. Please give your expert opinion on what a govt stimulus plan looks like and how it doesn't include spending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The banking system often has been characterized as parasitic. The metaphor is appropriate on more than one plane. Most people think of parasites simply as leeches, draining nourishment from the host. But biological nature is more complex. In order for parasites to succeed they must first numb the host's pain-warning system so that they can get a foothold. They then take control of the host's brain. The trick the host into believing that the parasite is part of its own body, and indeed even its child, to be nurtured, protected and given preference. They turn the host into a zombie. So the problem we are facing is not zombie banks, but the ability of Wall Street to create a zombie economy. -- Michael Hudson. Read More: http://tinyurl.com/dync4n The stimulus package arrived with the price tag and on roughly the schedule Obama had set for it. The president's job approval percentage now ranges from the mid 60s (Gallup, Pew) to mid 70s (CNN) � not bad for a guy who won the presidency with 52.9 percent of the vote. While 48 percent of Americans told CBS, Gallup and Pew that they approve of Congressional Democrats, only 31 (Gallup), 32 (CBS) and 34 (Pew) percent could say the same of their G.O.P. counterparts. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/opinion/15rich.html?_r=1 Gallup - February 27, 2009 - Obama Approval Rating *Increases* to 67% http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Made in China. On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins- stands-upright-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews.
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Made in China. Maybe so, but this guy raves about it. On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins-stands-uprigh t-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 03/01/09 17:46:00
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
you may want to post this too. the basic set up i do is to tighten the truss rod fully by turning the screw in the sound hole counter clockwise all the way. don't over tighten or you'll strip the threads. you can then check the arc of the neck by pressing the strings at the first fret and last fret for clearance. then i remove and shave or sand the bottom of the bridge saddle until the strings are low enough for easy play without fret buzz. (a good luthier will measure the string heights during each step of the process, but i never measure. he'll also put a straight edge on the frets and tap the high ones to the right height, but i'm not that picky.) over sand the saddle and you can shim it back up, or buy a new saddle and start again. that's usually all you need to do. i leave the truss rod fully tightened and lower the saddle more to compensate, but that's just my preferrence. i seem to get less fret buzz and lower clearance that way. if you do a search, i'm sure the proper measurements and procedures are available all over the internet. this is a cheap guitar. if i had an expensive guitar, i'd let a pro do the set up for me.
[FairfieldLife] Obama's Wonderful Financial Recovery Plan
All you whiners and shills for the rich will feel much better after a stay in our new re-education centers. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the right thing to do for the Slumdog Millionaire kids?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: How much of the profits from the toys you designed and that sold well did you share with the people in the factories that made them, or with the salespeople who sold them, or with the people who write ad copy for them? But until you spread the wealth from your own inventions around to the peons who brought the toys to market, I'd stop short of jumping on the Let's dump on this feel-good film any way we can bandwagon by trashing the producers of Slumdog Millionaire. Hopefully they done right by most of the people involved in the production. Hope- fully. But even if they didn't, it's not your job to bust them on it until you've done the same thing you're asking them to do. Right? I wish, gawd I wish, that I had had some windfall profits from my toy endeavors. The few of them that got all the way to retail didn't do much business. So, I'll never know if I would have distributed profits to side people if I had hit it big with a fad toy. The inventing biz is a tough row to hoe. Infomercials -- money from that either for me to spread around. In fact, all my attempts for the gold ring fell short except for a couple winners which were almost single-handedly accomplished by me. One winner required me to work long days for a year and a half making about $10/day for all the work, but eventually the business built up to a serious cash flow. The persons who helped me out with that deal were all paid UP FRONT at professional rates for their independently given services -- hosting companies, programmer, etc. So I don't think they should get a piece of my boondoggle. My 900 line business worked for about a year, but just about everyone involved made more money than me, because they made sure of it in a contract ahead of time. That was my mistake with Ed Beckley -- never got it on paper. As the article I posted shows, the details reveal that Danny Boyle was/is trying a goodly bit more than I'd thought to make things right, but I still think a lot more should be done for those kids. Also the article shows that there are many other issues that have arisen now that the film made money. Using the slum as a backdrop for one's film is, to me, a fairly serious issue too. Google is getting sued for photographing houses for their street views in their Maps site, but I think they'll skate on that, but the principle is still there -- how much are you allowed to coattail on someone else without any financial agreement? Think Obama memorial plates -- no profit is going to Obama for that fair use. It's complex, but by an analysis of the broad strokes of the Slumdog Millionaire's management of its success, I'd say they really did not anticipate much ahead of time. I hope they can scramble back into a positive spin, but a whole host of complaints about slums in general are now being bandied, so, hey, karmicly speaking, Danny did the slums a solid by his carelessness creating a lot of awareness. Go figure. If he'd paid the kids and their families by western standards, those kids might now be scorned for not helping out their slum neighbors who are all making $500 or less a year. As it was he paid them years' worth of slum income to be in the film, he employed one kid's father, etc., but where was the PR guy warning them about blowback? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Is Obama embracing the lawless, omnipotent executive?
From a post from Rick Archer, November 8, 2007 (#153957): I got a chance to ask [Obama]...what he would do to repair the constitutional erosion that had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He answered that he didn't favor impeachment because it would cause too much congressional paralysis and stir up too much bitterness, but that if he became president, his first move would be to call in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every decision which had eroded it. More from Glenn Greenwald this morning on the Obama DOJ's unconstitutional policies. Money quote: ...According to Obama, only the President has the power to decide what is done with classified information, and neither courts nor Congress have any power at all to do anything but politely request that the President change his mind. Therefore, the President has the unilateral, unchallengeable power to prevent any judicial challenges to his actions by simply declaring that the relevant evidence is a secret and refusing to turn it over to a court, even if ordered to do so. That's the argument which the Obama DOJ is now aggressively advancing -- all in order to block any judicial adjudication of Bush's now-dormant NSA program. It was exactly these theories -- and this behavior -- that led to eight years of accusations of an 'imperial presidency' and a 'lawless administration' and the likeA unifying belief among liberals (and many principled non-liberals) for the past several years was that Bush's secrecy theories and assertions of unchallengeable executive power were grave and tyrannical threats to liberty. Now, as of January 20, 2009, in some people's minds, to raise protests about the exact same theories is nothing more than 'hysteria,' because the Good Leader has secret reasons that he can't and won't share with us that justify everything he's doing for our own good. We are in the dark about his motives. And that's how it should be. Read more: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/03/02/executive_power/ http://tinyurl.com/c4qlr8
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: you may want to post this too. the basic set up i do This is good advise for someone who wants to do their own guitar work. I have done some of this myself. In the end taking your guitar to a guy who does this all day every day is a better choice for beginning players. A new player doesn't understand the variables in fret buzz, to be able to adjust this properly. For example I am a barbarian on guitar playing with heavy finger picks and snapping the strings Delta style. I have to have a higher action to accommodate this style. Most new players are too tentative with their guitar at first and wont discover the fret buzz till they are half way through a bottle of bourbon and have played the chords to Wild Thing for the hundredth time when they finally let loose. But a good set up guy knows where you are going to end up once you start really wailing on the thing! The guy at my guitar center is big on the Breedlove brand. They have a lower end (about $300) guitar with a solid spruce top that sounds great. If you can afford it the solid top makes a big difference because it will sound better over time. The composite layered woods used in cheaper guitars are held together with glue which degrades over time so the guitar sounds deader and deader the more you play it. It doesn't matter as much if the sides and back are a composite which makes the guitar cheaper. But some players do fine starting with a cheaper guitar to test their interest and if they get into it they can graduate into a higher quality. Maybe by then they are ready to jump to a solid wood American made classic like a Taylor or Martin. When you finally do get a quality guitar in your hands there is a magic to it. It takes your performance to a new level. But I am not a guitar fetishist. I have high quality guitars and beat the shit out of them. I don't keep looking for the next guitar for a special new sound. I concentrate on my side of the equation! is to tighten the truss rod fully by turning the screw in the sound hole counter clockwise all the way. don't over tighten or you'll strip the threads. you can then check the arc of the neck by pressing the strings at the first fret and last fret for clearance. then i remove and shave or sand the bottom of the bridge saddle until the strings are low enough for easy play without fret buzz. (a good luthier will measure the string heights during each step of the process, but i never measure. he'll also put a straight edge on the frets and tap the high ones to the right height, but i'm not that picky.) over sand the saddle and you can shim it back up, or buy a new saddle and start again. that's usually all you need to do. i leave the truss rod fully tightened and lower the saddle more to compensate, but that's just my preferrence. i seem to get less fret buzz and lower clearance that way. if you do a search, i'm sure the proper measurements and procedures are available all over the internet. this is a cheap guitar. if i had an expensive guitar, i'd let a pro do the set up for me.
[FairfieldLife] Homo Evolutis
Juan Enriquez: Beyond the crisis, mindboggling science and the arrival of Homo evolutis http://www.ted.com/talks/ juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html LINK
Re: [FairfieldLife] Details: Re: What's the right thing to do for the Slumdog Millionaire kids?
Duveyoung wrote: h Boyle said in an interview. In the end, India will have to address its own issues. They are too big to be solved by our efforts alone, although we can try. There you have it. The US has to solve it's own problems and we won't be expecting India to bail us out. If you think the rich are brash here, try India. If some of you think I'm tough on the rich in the US you should have heard my cab driver in Kerala. I was beginning to worry he would think of me as rich. ;-) This was a movie that almost went straight to DVD until it got raves at the Toronto Film Festival. If you want to see the complexities of getting a film on the screen go rent What Just Happened. It is based on a book by Art Linson who has over 30 years of experience producing films starting from Car Wash and including Fight Club. It's scary enough to make anyone want to stay away from L.A. Great watch and a small film with big stars.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
On Mar 2, 2009, at 9:45 AM, grate.swan wrote: First, we are all liars. If lying is not telling the truth. And who here knows the truth? I know it, grate--thanks for asking. And I'll even share it with you, for a small donation, of course. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. VP Joe Biden said the stimulus has a 70% chance of working.which really means it has a 50% chance of working. It is laden with pork and programs that are wasteful, and it has aspects to it that are beneficial. If you recall LBJ's great society in the 60's and early 70's.Ten years later, the misery index -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980. So this Obama stimulus is not a sure bet and I would bet anyone that before years end he will be back again for Stimulus part 2 because this one that got passed last week is off the mark and its effect is too far out into the future the stock market is a voting mechanism, and it has dropped approx -10% since the bill got passed, so that is a vote of no confidence in the bill and the current fix it proposals out there --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest point of 52.8 in July 1930 (with 1935-39 = 100) and was practically unchanged at 54.3 in March 1933; however by July 1933, it reached 85.5, a dramatic rebound of 57% in four months. Recovery was steady and strong until 1937. Except for unemployment, the economy by 1937 surpassed the levels of the late 1920s. The Recession of 1937 was a temporary downturn. Private sector employment, especially in manufacturing, recovered to the level of the 1920s but failed to advance further until the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal - U.S. Gross Domestic Product 1929-1941 - See chart: http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif http://snipurl.com/cxnm2 Total employment in the United States from 1920 to 1940, excluding farms and WPA. Data was obtained from the U.S. Census Bureau Statistical Abstracts and converted into SVG format GRAPH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Employment_Graph_-_1920_to_1940.svg http://snipurl.com/cxnsn --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The banking system often has been characterized as parasitic. The metaphor is appropriate on more than one plane. Most people think of parasites simply as leeches, draining nourishment from the host. But biological nature is more complex. In order for parasites to succeed they must first numb the host's pain-warning system so that they can get a foothold. They then take control of the host's brain. The trick the host into believing that the parasite is part of its own body, and indeed even its child, to be nurtured, protected and given preference. They turn the host into a zombie. So the problem we are facing is not
[FairfieldLife] An eye opening report on the fluff in the American Health Care System
http://www.newsweek.com/id/187006 Why Doctors Hate Science Scaremongers warn that 'effectiveness research' threatens the lives of Americans. Published Feb 28, 2009 From the magazine issue dated Mar 9, 2009 Thank God doctors in the United States are free to treat patients as they deem best, free from interference by faceless bureaucrats. If bureaucrats were in charge, physicians might have to prescribe the newest hypertension drugs as a first-line therapy, do MRIs to diagnose back pain and give regular Pap tests to women who have had total hysterectomies. Oh, wait—they do. All these medical practices are common, despite rigorous studies showing how useless or wrongheaded they are. Definitive studies over many years have shown that old-line diuretics are safer and equally effective for high blood pressure compared with newer drugs, for instance, and that MRIs for back pain lead to unnecessary surgery. And those Pap tests? Total hysterectomy removes the uterus and cervix. A Pap test screens for cervical cancer. No cervix, no cancer. Yet a 2004 study found that some 10 million women lacking a cervix were still getting Pap tests. It's hard not to scream when you see how many physicians, pharmaceutical companies, medical-device makers and, lately, hysterical conservatives seem to hate science, or at best ignore it. These days the science that inspires fear and loathing is comparative-effectiveness research (CER), which is receiving $1 billion under the stimulus bill President Obama signed. CER means studies to determine which treatments, including drugs, are more medically and cost-effective for a given ailment than others. A study in February in the journal Lancet, for instance, compared treatments for severe ankle sprains, concluding that a below-the-knee cast is superior to a tubular compression bandage. A 2006 study of schizophrenia drugs found that old-line antipsychotics were as effective as pricey new ones. Yet scaremongers have morphed effectiveness research into cost-benefit analysis, warning that Grandma will be denied a knee replacement because some bureaucrat decides it isn't worth spending $35,000 so a 93-year-old can walk without pain (how many years will she live, you know?). The Washington Times said effectiveness research will threaten the lives of many Americans as government decides who gets lifesaving treatment and who doesn't. Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma (a doctor) warned of a Soviet-style Federal Health Board that will put bureaucrats and politicians in charge of our nation's health-care system. You might attribute Coburn's rant to his small-government ideology, but I say blame his profession—not politics but medicine. Doctors have long resisted having science guide their practice. That's obvious from the disparity in clinical practices from one region of the U.S. to another, as The Dartmouth Atlas of Health Care has been finding since the early 1990s. Rates of coronary-bypass surgery among Medicare patients in McAllen, Texas, are five times those in Pueblo, Colo. Rates of back surgery in Casper, Wyo., are six times those in Honolulu and the Bronx. From one city to another, the frequency of visits to specialists varies more than fivefold. Yet elderly people in Casper don't have worse back pain than those in the Bronx, and those in Texas aren't suffering occluded arteries at higher rates than those in Colorado. Instead, the enormous disparity in how doctors in different regions treat the same condition reflects medical culture, not medical science. Docs influence each other—How would you handle this?—at the local medical association and even on the golf links. Doctors want to do what their colleagues are doing, says Elliott Fischer of Dartmouth Medical School. Identifying what works and what doesn't is only secondarily about saving money and primarily about proper care, he says: It's an absurd mischaracterization of effectiveness research to equate it with cost-benefit analysis. Instead, it's the only way to protect ourselves from practices that are not beneficial and even dangerous, which so many treatments now in use are. Educating docs about what works and what doesn't promises to reduce overtreatment, too, which could improve health: more health care can buy worse health outcomes because of overdiagnosis and side effects. The power of medical culture explains only part of the resistance to following practices that have been shown scientifically to be superior to others. Some doctors insist that results of such studies do not apply to their patients, since every patient is different. (Sure, but exceptions should be exceptions; you don't do an MRI on everyone who arrives with a sore back.) Money also matters. In one infamous case in the mid-1990s, a federal agency concluded that spinal fusion doesn't help back pain, a decision that threatened insurance coverage for it. Surgeons, who stood to lose piles of money, got Congress to decimate the agency's budget, forcing it to pull back
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
bettyblue109 wrote: Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. And why did Americans borrow too much? Did they just all of a sudden one day wake up and say I'm going to go out and put myself further into debt? No, they were SOLD the idea to borrow and to live higher on the hog. It was after all the Me generation and have it YOUR way. Americans were just sheep following the baying of the herd dogs of capitalism who only survive by keeping the masses are kept in perpetual debt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
Another note from my friend: i just took a look at the discussion. about all i'd have to add is i don't think there's a better bargain going anywhere than the silver creek guitar at musicians friend. it's no substitute for a gibson, but for what it is it's truly the most amazing value i've ever seen in a guitar. it reminds me of the time consumer reports had connoisseurs test a group of cheap and gourmet wines. the pros picked the $30 bottle and $20 bottle over the $100 bottle of dom perignon. i think a blindfold test playing of the silver creek guitars vs martin or taylor would get a similar result. bob
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Another note from my friend: i just took a look at the discussion. about all i'd have to add is i don't think there's a better bargain going anywhere than the silver creek guitar at musicians friend. it's no substitute for a gibson, but for what it is it's truly the most amazing value i've ever seen in a guitar. it reminds me of the time consumer reports had connoisseurs test a group of cheap and gourmet wines. the pros picked the $30 bottle and $20 bottle over the $100 bottle of dom perignon. i think a blindfold test playing of the silver creek guitars vs martin or taylor would get a similar result. bob The wonders of slave labor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
I've been guiltily following this thread and now feel the impulse to weigh in with my own meager measure of advice. Responding to some great advice Curtis gave me last year, as well as frustration with my longstanding inability to make music, I went to one of the local music stores and had the 40-something guitar freak working there to take me through the paces of the guitars he had. It was a delightful 40-45 minutes as he took down each guitar that was more-or-less within my price range, explained what he liked about it and how it compared to others in his estimation, and then played the same piece that he'd played on each one earlier so I could judge and evaluate how each one sounded to me. I ended up buying a Seagull solid-cedar top guitar with wild cherry back and sides, handmade in Canada by Godin. http://www.seagullguitars.com/productentouragerusticmj.htm It was reasonablely priced, has great reviews, and sounds fantastic. I loved it but was entirely intimidated by it at and didn't practice very much. My daughter and her boyfriend came to visit one weekend and he picked it up and played something wonderful and well and I gave it to him on the spot because he didn't have a guitar anymore and I wanted the thing to be played. Now I have a Kala spruce-top ukulele, which only intimidates me a little bit and I fool around with it almost every day. My fingers still don't do the impossible things that even the simplest chords require them to do, but if I've learned anything over the years, it's that if you put the time in, then sooner or later things magically sort themselves out. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: you may want to post this too. the basic set up i do This is good advise for someone who wants to do their own guitar work. I have done some of this myself. In the end taking your guitar to a guy who does this all day every day is a better choice for beginning players. A new player doesn't understand the variables in fret buzz, to be able to adjust this properly. For example I am a barbarian on guitar playing with heavy finger picks and snapping the strings Delta style. I have to have a higher action to accommodate this style. Most new players are too tentative with their guitar at first and wont discover the fret buzz till they are half way through a bottle of bourbon and have played the chords to Wild Thing for the hundredth time when they finally let loose. But a good set up guy knows where you are going to end up once you start really wailing on the thing! The guy at my guitar center is big on the Breedlove brand. They have a lower end (about $300) guitar with a solid spruce top that sounds great. If you can afford it the solid top makes a big difference because it will sound better over time. The composite layered woods used in cheaper guitars are held together with glue which degrades over time so the guitar sounds deader and deader the more you play it. It doesn't matter as much if the sides and back are a composite which makes the guitar cheaper. But some players do fine starting with a cheaper guitar to test their interest and if they get into it they can graduate into a higher quality. Maybe by then they are ready to jump to a solid wood American made classic like a Taylor or Martin. When you finally do get a quality guitar in your hands there is a magic to it. It takes your performance to a new level. But I am not a guitar fetishist. I have high quality guitars and beat the shit out of them. I don't keep looking for the next guitar for a special new sound. I concentrate on my side of the equation! is to tighten the truss rod fully by turning the screw in the sound hole counter clockwise all the way. don't over tighten or you'll strip the threads. you can then check the arc of the neck by pressing the strings at the first fret and last fret for clearance. then i remove and shave or sand the bottom of the bridge saddle until the strings are low enough for easy play without fret buzz. (a good luthier will measure the string heights during each step of the process, but i never measure. he'll also put a straight edge on the frets and tap the high ones to the right height, but i'm not that picky.) over sand the saddle and you can shim it back up, or buy a new saddle and start again. that's usually all you need to do. i leave the truss rod fully tightened and lower the saddle more to compensate, but that's just my preferrence. i seem to get less fret buzz and lower clearance that way. if you do a search, i'm sure the proper measurements and procedures are available all over the internet. this is a cheap guitar. if i had an expensive guitar, i'd let a pro do the set up for me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. VP Joe Biden said the stimulus has a 70% chance of working.which really means it has a 50% chance of working. It is laden with pork and programs that are wasteful, and it has aspects to it that are beneficial. If you recall LBJ's great society in the 60's and early 70's.Ten years later, the misery index -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980. So this Obama stimulus is not a sure bet and I would bet anyone that before years end he will be back again for Stimulus part 2 because this one that got passed last week is off the mark and its effect is too far out into the future the stock market is a voting mechanism, and it has dropped approx -10% since the bill got passed, so that is a vote of no confidence in the bill and the current fix it proposals out there I'm sure Obama, with the advice of his team, will do whatever he can, including any necessary additional stimuli or other means to mitigate and turn around the catastrophic disaster left behind by the Bush administration and its rubber stamp GOP controlled culture of corruption Congress. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest point of 52.8 in July 1930 (with 1935-39 = 100) and was practically unchanged at 54.3 in March 1933; however by July 1933, it reached 85.5, a dramatic rebound of 57% in four months. Recovery was steady and strong until 1937. Except for unemployment, the economy by 1937 surpassed the levels of the late 1920s. The Recession of 1937 was a temporary downturn. Private sector employment, especially in manufacturing, recovered to the level of the 1920s but failed to advance further until the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal - U.S. Gross Domestic Product 1929-1941 - See chart: http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif http://snipurl.com/cxnm2 Total employment in the United States from 1920 to 1940, excluding farms and WPA. Data was obtained from the U.S. Census Bureau Statistical Abstracts and converted into SVG format GRAPH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Employment_Graph_-_1920_to_1940.svg http://snipurl.com/cxnsn --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The banking system often has been characterized as parasitic. The metaphor is appropriate on more than one plane. Most people think of parasites simply as leeches, draining
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
A few years ago (age 52) I decided to learn to play guitar and bought a China made Guild which looks like and cost about the same as the Nickle Creek - - I would venture to say that many of these guitars by name brands are made in the same plants with a similar quality as these Nickle Creeks and are simply packaged under different names. However, when I get a chance to play or hear a mighty fine instrument - like a higher end Martin, Collins or Martin, etc. - I can really tell the difference - I don't ever want to put it down. But my main point is that after playing a couple weeks and I then knew about 5 chords, and it was only taking me about 31 seconds to switch between chords - - a friend mentioned the best way to learn an instrument was to play with others, and that I should go to some local bluegrass jams. Now, I didn't know exactly what bluegrass was but I (somewhat timidly) went - and I was tempted to keep my guitar in the car but I walked in tried to keep up the best I could and I learned a whole bunch that first night, and I still go about every week. and at these BG jams lots of different types of music is played including country, blues and light rock - the last one I was at we got into a John Prine 'rant' and of course now that I can finally play guitar well enough to hop in at just about any speed and any tune even if I've never heard it before - - now I decide to learn a second instrument (mandolin) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Another note from my friend: i just took a look at the discussion. about all i'd have to add is i don't think there's a better bargain going anywhere than the silver creek guitar at musicians friend. it's no substitute for a gibson, but for what it is it's truly the most amazing value i've ever seen in a guitar. it reminds me of the time consumer reports had connoisseurs test a group of cheap and gourmet wines. the pros picked the $30 bottle and $20 bottle over the $100 bottle of dom perignon. i think a blindfold test playing of the silver creek guitars vs martin or taylor would get a similar result. bob
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis re Guitar
dude, just tell His Holiness the Dalai Lama about it-- he will fix it-- LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Another note from my friend: i just took a look at the discussion. about all i'd have to add is i don't think there's a better bargain going anywhere than the silver creek guitar at musicians friend. it's no substitute for a gibson, but for what it is it's truly the most amazing value i've ever seen in a guitar. it reminds me of the time consumer reports had connoisseurs test a group of cheap and gourmet wines. the pros picked the $30 bottle and $20 bottle over the $100 bottle of dom perignon. i think a blindfold test playing of the silver creek guitars vs martin or taylor would get a similar result. bob The wonders of slave labor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots. I learned back in the late 1970's what a pain debt could be. In my case I had debt from borrowing to go the the Sidhi's program and then quit my gig for a better one that turned out not to happen. It was hard to find anything else for a while. A couple years later the band I had worked for hired me back. But from then on I never allowed myself to go into debt anymore than I could handle and that included during my prosperous 1990s. But you're missing the fun, Turq. It's like living in a sci-fi movie. Last night my family had a get together at a restaurant for my oldest great nephew's birthday. The talk at the start was who they knew that got laid off or who they knew that had a company where they had to lay off. I actually didn't say much of anything because I had been telling them for some time we were in for a depression and probably far worse than the 1930's one. I'm watching the market crash again today but figuring if not tomorrow then probably later in the week it'll be back up. The market is like a yo-yo. It will wind it's way further down until it ain't worth dirt. But that's what people get for gambling. The market is just another way to separate the middle class from it's money.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
I know the truth, you liar! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Some tangential thoughts -- First, we are all liars. If lying is not telling the truth. And who here knows the truth? Second, we sit in our own living space (our heads and hearts) and read what someone else wrote from their living space. Its certainly not uncommon that what we hear is not what was spoken. Or at least we hear something other that the intent or mood of what was spoken. Two mistakes are possible. 1) Someone says something neutral to nice, in an enthusiastic or funny way or at least neutral way, and we go bonkers, hearing inside our heads, an attack, thinking it an insult. So we rip off some choice words to protect our territory, our pride. The cycle of vindictiveness starts (and rarely then stops soon) 2) Someone says something nasty to us, and we interpret it as coming from a kind and loving soul -- and respond with these qualities. Which mistake gets us in more trouble? And ruins the dinner party? Number one of course. So what is the downside of always responding per door #2? Not much. It would seem the lowest risk, least stressful, and collectively enhancing path is door #2. In response to all posts. Makes sense. Let me take it our for a spin for a week. See how it takes the corners. Let love reign -- down upon us :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are *indulging* in the emotion because they don't actually feel much emotion most of the time. They don't feel (or at any rate don't write here about feeling) emotion about the quiet and subtle things in life. Stuff like the appreciation of a great sunrise or sunset, the laughter of child- ren, the way your body feels after a good run. Marek is a clear example of someone who *is* capable of doing this. His posts on surfing and his and Edg's posts on the rush of Trikking are often the closest we get to positive emotions on this forum. And I am not exactly the gold standard in this regard, either; I sometimes gush about movies I have seen that turn me on, but too often I don't express enought positive emotion, either. But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Someone pointing out a racist remark made by a person who once *bragged* about being a racist becomes an issue so emotional that the person threatens real-world retaliation. Someone criticizes (or worse, laughs at) Maha- rishi and others react as if *they* had been criticized, or attacked physically. Point out that Hillary Clinton has a proven track record as more of a creator of conflict rather than a resolver of it, and some turn that into a slur against all women. I'm not actually *complaining* about all this manufactured emotion. It's what makes FFL entertaining. It's like watching a soap opera. High drama, low consciousness. My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. Good emotions include bhakti meltdowns when talking about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and God. Another good emotion is righteous anger, when someone says something negative about any of that holy trinity, or TM itself. Bad emotions involve anything that suggests that you're still (spit) human, and mired in Maya, like...uh... tolerance of opinions that differ from yours, or tolerance of someone perceiving Maharishi, TM, the TMO, or you differently than you'd like them to be perceived. Stick with the good emotions, and amplify them out of proportion. That's the FFL Way. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
your quote: left behind by the Bush administration and its rubber stamp GOP controlled culture of corruption Congress.I am in my mid 50's. Since I became more aware of what has been going on in the world (since my early 30's) I have observed congress/government etc to be self serving and corrupt, not just Bush and the republican congress, but democratic congress's as well. They are all on the take, they fail to really fix anything, (ie; social security), nor do they ever delete a government program or subsidy once it has been put in placewhy? because all they care about is being re-elected. You could say the system is broken. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. VP Joe Biden said the stimulus has a 70% chance of working.which really means it has a 50% chance of working. It is laden with pork and programs that are wasteful, and it has aspects to it that are beneficial. If you recall LBJ's great society in the 60's and early 70's.Ten years later, the misery index -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980. So this Obama stimulus is not a sure bet and I would bet anyone that before years end he will be back again for Stimulus part 2 because this one that got passed last week is off the mark and its effect is too far out into the future the stock market is a voting mechanism, and it has dropped approx -10% since the bill got passed, so that is a vote of no confidence in the bill and the current fix it proposals out there I'm sure Obama, with the advice of his team, will do whatever he can, including any necessary additional stimuli or other means to mitigate and turn around the catastrophic disaster left behind by the Bush administration and its rubber stamp GOP controlled culture of corruption Congress. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest point of 52.8 in July 1930 (with 1935-39 = 100) and was practically unchanged at 54.3 in March 1933; however by July 1933, it reached 85.5, a dramatic rebound of 57% in four months. Recovery was steady and strong until 1937. Except for unemployment, the economy by 1937 surpassed the levels of the late 1920s. The Recession of 1937 was a temporary downturn. Private sector employment, especially in manufacturing, recovered to the level of the 1920s but failed to advance further until the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal - U.S. Gross Domestic Product 1929-1941
Re: [FairfieldLife] An eye opening report on the fluff in the American Health Care System
I am the eternal wrote: It's hard not to scream when you see how many physicians, pharmaceutical companies, medical-device makers and, lately, hysterical conservatives seem to hate science, or at best ignore it. These days the science that inspires fear and loathing is comparative-effectiveness research (CER), which is receiving $1 billion under the stimulus bill President Obama signed. CER means studies to determine which treatments, including drugs, are more medically and cost-effective for a given ailment than others. A study in February in the journal Lancet, for instance, compared treatments for severe ankle sprains, concluding that a below-the-knee cast is superior to a tubular compression bandage. A 2006 study of schizophrenia drugs found that old-line antipsychotics were as effective as pricey new ones. I wonder if anyone has ever tried giving schizophrenics licorice to calm them down? I swear that if you used vata reducing herbs to those people they would ground out and get off the streets. Some of those folks are a little toxed out though so probably need a few days of reduction therapy before giving them the tonification stuff. It's worth a try as you might get some of these people buying a box of licorice vines instead of a bottle of cheap wine. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:55 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots. Hear, hear, Barry. You nailed it--this is Projection City here... Apparently BB spent like a drunken sailor, with no thought for the future, so she wants to convince herself everyone else did as well. I guess it's just one more way of not taking responsibility. But plenty of others didn't. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
i moved everything into cash earlier this year and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. no money to be made on stocks for at least this calendar year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots. I learned back in the late 1970's what a pain debt could be. In my case I had debt from borrowing to go the the Sidhi's program and then quit my gig for a better one that turned out not to happen. It was hard to find anything else for a while. A couple years later the band I had worked for hired me back. But from then on I never allowed myself to go into debt anymore than I could handle and that included during my prosperous 1990s. But you're missing the fun, Turq. It's like living in a sci-fi movie. Last night my family had a get together at a restaurant for my oldest great nephew's birthday. The talk at the start was who they knew that got laid off or who they knew that had a company where they had to lay off. I actually didn't say much of anything because I had been telling them for some time we were in for a depression and probably far worse than the 1930's one. I'm watching the market crash again today but figuring if not tomorrow then probably later in the week it'll be back up. The market is like a yo-yo. It will wind it's way further down until it ain't worth dirt. But that's what people get for gambling. The market is just another way to separate the middle class from it's money.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
Mr Turquose B, my sincere apologiesMy comments were not pointed at you in particular, it was the majority of the population, OK, 299,999,999 folks..By the way I have no debt, paid off the house and I never had credit card debt. And PS the house wife is not out of control, but your royal european manners certainly are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
BB has no debt, her house is paid off, and she never had crdit card debt eitherjust some simple powers of observation, not projection! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:55 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Speak for yourself. I lived in the U.S. until 2002. I had zero debt. I still have zero debt. Don't project your own out-of-control housewife with a credit card approach to living onto others unless you're sure it applies. One of the reasons I *left* the U.S. is that I saw all this coming. It's the result of a government *and* a people who lived the way you described. If you're one of them, include yourself in your 300 million Americans figure, but leave me out. I resent being put in the same category as idiots. Hear, hear, Barry. You nailed it--this is Projection City here... Apparently BB spent like a drunken sailor, with no thought for the future, so she wants to convince herself everyone else did as well. I guess it's just one more way of not taking responsibility. But plenty of others didn't. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
I like to tell my relatives that I was stupid enough to listen to conspiracy theorists and moved my funds into cash. They used to give me a hard time about conspiracy theories. Now they're kinda left speechless. :-D enlightened_dawn11 wrote: i moved everything into cash earlier this year and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. no money to be made on stocks for at least this calendar year. -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
we are not to far off from a good buy in the stck mktbut we are not there quite yet.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I like to tell my relatives that I was stupid enough to listen to conspiracy theorists and moved my funds into cash. They used to give me a hard time about conspiracy theories. Now they're kinda left speechless. :-D enlightened_dawn11 wrote: i moved everything into cash earlier this year and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. no money to be made on stocks for at least this calendar year. -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: your quote: left behind by the Bush administration and its rubber stamp GOP controlled culture of corruption Congress.I am in my mid 50's. Since I became more aware of what has been going on in the world (since my early 30's) I have observed congress/government etc to be self serving and corrupt, not just Bush and the republican congress, but democratic congress's as well. They are all on the take, they fail to really fix anything, (ie; social security), nor do they ever delete a government program or subsidy once it has been put in placewhy? because all they care about is being re-elected. You could say the system is broken. The Republicans broke some records this time with examples like the multi-billion dollar Enron criminal operation, the far reaching Tom Delay and Abramoff fun times and the fallout from that and other scandals, but not to forget the 'accomplishments' of the Bush administration with Iraq, Katrina, the environment, science, the US Constitution, the rule of law, the open door to the Christian Right wackos, overt homophobic bigotry, the politicizing of the DOJ and almost every agency of government, the imposed Christianization of the military by the loonies, the billions of dollars thrown away in corrupt no bid recontruction Iraq contracts .. My God, I could fill a page. But the biggest damaging thing they did was to virtually eliminate any fiscally sound, responsible oversight over their cohort sponsors in the Corporate financial operations of America's economic machine. And they indeed did leave us with the global economic crisis we face today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. VP Joe Biden said the stimulus has a 70% chance of working.which really means it has a 50% chance of working. It is laden with pork and programs that are wasteful, and it has aspects to it that are beneficial. If you recall LBJ's great society in the 60's and early 70's.Ten years later, the misery index -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980. So this Obama stimulus is not a sure bet and I would bet anyone that before years end he will be back again for Stimulus part 2 because this one that got passed last week is off the mark and its effect is too far out into the future the stock market is a voting mechanism, and it has dropped approx -10% since the bill got passed, so that is a vote of no confidence in the bill and the current fix it proposals out there I'm sure Obama, with the advice of his team, will do whatever he can, including any necessary additional stimuli or other means to mitigate and turn around the catastrophic disaster left behind by the Bush administration and its rubber stamp GOP controlled culture of corruption Congress. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:58 PM, bettyblue109 wrote: BB has no debt, her house is paid off, and she never had crdit card debt eitherjust some simple powers of observation, not projection! Then why the: we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Clearly puts you in the group you are now disavowing... the group that felt it was just fine to party on and pass on the debts to our kids and theirs. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Homo Evolutis
Vaj, That clip is awesome. It asks a very profound question which can be debated ad infinitum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Juan Enriquez: Beyond the crisis, mindboggling science and the arrival of Homo evolutis http://www.ted.com/talks/ juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html LINK
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
I forgot to use my electron microscope todaythat's why --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:58 PM, bettyblue109 wrote: BB has no debt, her house is paid off, and she never had crdit card debt eitherjust some simple powers of observation, not projection! Then why the: we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... Clearly puts you in the group you are now disavowing... the group that felt it was just fine to party on and pass on the debts to our kids and theirs. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Stop Iranian Persecution of Sufis
To all who believe in democracy, I am writing to invite you to join me in signing a petition (see the link below) that calls upon the Iranian authorities to stop religious harassment, and to respect the civil and human rights of Sufis in Iran. The Iranian authorities of the Islamic Republic have a long track record of suppressing religious minorities in the country. This time, they have turned their screw on Sufis, who observe Islamic beliefs but also believe in the pursuit of (the) truth through mysticism. The radical and conservative religious and political forces in Iran consider Sufism a danger to Islam. Since the rise of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to presidency, Iranian Sufis have witnessed fresh waves of persecution in the form of destruction of holy places, harassment and arrest of Sufi leaders, and general ill treatment of members of the Sufi community. On February 18, 2009, one of the oldest and most historical holy sites of the Ni'matollahi Gonabadi Sufi community, one of the largest Sufi orders in Iran, was destroyed in city of Isfahan. Other holy sites were destroyed in the cities of Borujerd in 2007 and Qom in 2006. A Sufi prayer house in Kish was forced to close in late 2008.. Thousands of Sufis from all over the country have faced arrest, been sentenced to lashings, or been forced to pledge not to attend Sufi ceremonies. The desecration of sacred sites and harassment of the Sufis is yet another despicable attempt on the part of the Iranian government to squelch religious freedom in Iran and bring harm to the entire Iranian Sufi community. For more information read: http://www.rferl. org/content/ Iranian_Authorit ies_Destroy_ Holy_Sufi_ Site_In_Isfahan/ 1495342.html For your information, the Sufis have lived in Iran since the 7th Century, and have contributed vastly to the cultural development of the country. Their message of love and unity has been welcomed in the West through poets and philosophers, such as Rumi and Hafez, translated into English. Under the Islamic Republic of Iran, and particular under the yoke of the current regime, the Sufis are experiencing a sweeping blow to the community's vitality and development. Today the Iranian government regards Sufis as deviants and even some as infidels. They have few rights and are not permitted to follow the leaders of their community. Their historical sites, places of worship, and leaders are constantly assaulted. Please join us to sign a petition in defense of the civil and human rights of the Sufis, together with all other minority groups in Iran. Click on the link below to access the petition: http://www.Petition Online.com/ hu121/petition. html Thank you very much for your kind support. Beydokht Parsa
[FairfieldLife] Ninja Bear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia05NGd3-dU
[FairfieldLife] Sign of a yogi
German TM Governor Adolf Beck (85) recounts some of his experiences with TM and Maharishi in the early 1960s: During a four-week meditation course in Hochgurgl (Austria) Maharishi had invited 200 Course Participants to a place high in the mountains - 2.509 metres above sea level. It was a very hot and humid day in July 1962. Dr Ellis and Dr Holms were reading the English translation of a Sanskrit text to Maharishi Ji. It said If it is true, that this is a Yogi, a very happy man, then the heavens will give a sign. Some CPs were wondering what kind of sign this could have been. Suddenly a stormy wind came up and started to tear at the hair and clothes of the CPs, but strangely no strand of Maharishi's hair, who sat only two to three metres, away, was moving. Then lightning and thunder set in and rain poured down heavily, however the little hill where those 200 and Maharishi were sitting remained dry and untouched by the elements. And just high above, one could (see) a piece of the blue sky through a small round hole in the clouds. For half an hour everyone stayed seated fearlessly and listened to the words of Maharishi - a kind of Sermon on the Mount - until the Master gave signal to leave. And as soon as Maharishi had entered the car of Mr Nyburg, heavy rain came down. All the slopes of the area were completely flooded. One hour later a bright alpenglow enchanted the landscape. For me, Adolf Beck writes, no doubt remained that Maharishi was indeed a great Yogi, a very happy man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:58 PM, bettyblue109 wrote: BB has no debt, her house is paid off, and she never had crdit card debt eitherjust some simple powers of observation, not projection! Then why the: we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... It's called refraining from tooting one's own horn, an archaic form of courtesy with which Sal is obviously not familiar. Clearly puts you in the group you are now disavowing... R-i-i-i-i-ght, Sal: ...And though all these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before. In other words, we have lived through an era where too often, short-term gains were prized over long- term prosperity; where we failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter, or the next election --President Barack Obama, address to Congress, 2/24/09 Shame on Obama! He spent more money and piled up more debt than ever before; he failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter, and the next election! snicker
[FairfieldLife] Blogger on Fairfield
In Maharishi's Fairfield, Iowa it is possible to stand in the middle of town while the railway seethes with traffic and simultaneously order a $2,000 organic cotton bedroll while observing a dying Norwegian choking down cheap tequila. http://drdesireesphilologicalfotomat.blogspot.com/2009/03/ish.html
[FairfieldLife] MMY on zero
Maharishi: 'It is a very genuine question. I will give an analogy first, and then further clarify the question. It's a very good question. 'Just as a child would ask his father, Now how is it that the whole tree-thousands of leaves, flowers and fruit-emerges from nothing? Sap is just nothing-emptiness. How can that nothingness become all this huge variety and express itself as this huge variety? 'Innumerable laws of nature, governing all these different aspects of the expression of the tree, are centered in one hollowness of the seed, which is abstract nothingness. There is an area of emptiness-a big zero-within the seed. There is nothing, but from that nothingness sprouts everything-all variety and multiplicity. 'Thus we understand that there is a field which is abstract, unmanifest-the Unified Field. Physics, chemistry, and physiology have located it. Mathematics has located it in a big zero-just like the hollowness of an empty seed. 'Just as from zero-in the zero you put one little line here, and it becomes nine, eight, six or five-so it is from the zero that huge number systems arise. Billions and billions arise; you can count any number. 'It is the same thing in the field of thinking. A tiny thought comes, Mango. A thought comes, I need a mango. Just this thought makes one stand and walk to the shop. If this shop doesn't have a good mango, then go to another and another. From where did all this huge activity start? Just the memory of the mango, I'll eat a mango. Just that one little thing spreads into so many varieties. 'This only shows that there is one source from which an infinite number of courses come out-from one source, all courses. This is a reality. Transcendental Consciousness is exploring, or identifying with, that one source which is unmanifest in itself. And from there, all manifestation begins. 'Now here is the answer to the question. From that one source, everything begins. Now elaborate on everything-one solar system, two solar systems, galaxies, millions and billions of suns, and an ever- expanding universe-from this one little source. Through the window of science we see the enormous functioning of the ever-expanding universe. 'Here is the secret of owning the universe, the secret of rising to invincibility and mastery. Mastery of what? Mastery of total Natural Law and the Constitution of the Universe. This little brain is the central point from where awareness can be infinitely expanded to control, command, and make use of the infinite creative intelligence of total Natural Law commanding the millions and billions of suns, moons, stars, and everything. Here is the one little control-the switchboard. Another example is that you can look through one little hole in the centre of a lens and see the whole panorama on the other side. 'The technique is practical, natural, and completely available to any human being through proper education-Vedic Education. Take it or lose it. Either remain slaves of situations and circumstances or be the commander of the infinite creative intelligence of total Natural Law. It depends upon education-Vedic Education-which has been forgotten. 'Now, with the grace of Guru Dev, and the grace of our Tradition of Masters, the seed is there. It has to be nourished, recovered, and made use of. This is our strength on the basis of which we can give the gift of invincibility to every government. 'The present governments have to learn something that they do not know. The Prime Minister and President of any country are respected for their social values, but they do not have the knowledge. They can have Total Knowledge now. We have been saying this for many years. . . . 'Eight thousand people from anywhere should be employed, given a comfortable life, and trained. Creating peace and harmony in world consciousness will be their profession. They should be trained, and I will train them all. . . . 'Collect eight thousand people from America, Europe, or here and there-two, three groups. Then you will be the creators of a new world. Tell the governments and the wealthy people. Tell the poor people to come and join the Peace Government, and arrange for their comfortable living. 'It is enough that I have developed this knowledge. But the organization should be by the governments, who profess to manage the society. 'What a beautiful picture we have of the forthcoming world. It is so delightful to us to offer invincibility to every government. We are offering stability to the government so that the government does not change every four years. . . .'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
... America. If there is a market for the drugs, that means that the people who live in this medi- tating community DID NOT FIND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN MEDITATION. * Vasistha's Yoga p.499 http://tinyurl.com/6xndt If the teaching falls on a qualified heart, it expands in that intelligence. It does not stay in the unqualified heart.
[FairfieldLife] Iran and the Jews
But the equating of Iran with terror today is simplistic. Hamas and Hezbollah have evolved into broad political movements widely seen as resisting an Israel over-ready to use crushing force. It is essential to think again about them, just as it is essential to toss out Iran caricatures. I return to this subject because behind the Jewish issue in Iran lies a critical one the U.S. propensity to fixate on and demonize a country through a one-dimensional lens, with a sometimes disastrous chain of results. It's worth recalling that hateful, ultranationalist rhetoric is no Iranian preserve. Avigdor Lieberman, Israel's race-baiting anti-Arab firebrand, may find a place in a government led by Benjamin Netanyahu. He should not. Nor should racist demagoguery wherever prompt facile allusions to the murderous Nazi master of it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/opinion/02cohen.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_re...@... wrote: Is it Miss Do.Rflex or Mr Do.Rflex, That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending Actually 300 million Americans got us into this mess in the first place, we all lived way beyond our means since 1980. We all borrowed too much, too much debt... And the housing mess was certainly created by congress, Clinton and Bush by putting pressure on banks to make subprime loans so that everyone could own a house, even if they could not afford to make the payments. This is ABSOLUTE NONSENSE. There was absolutely no pressure for any bank to make any subprime loan to anyone they didn't want to. The Community Reinvestment Act is irrelevant to the subprime crisis. It was highly profitable for banks to make subprime loans due to easy money monetary policies and the ability to sell off the risk in the secondary market. The mortgage sector did not take out billions $ in advertising marketing ever more esoteric and risky loans because they were being forced to -- it was easy money with little to no risk. And of course Greenspan's easy money did not help either. Derivatives, off balance sheet SUV's, CDO's also contributed to mess. I'd say that derivatives are the central aspect of the crisis - without the completely deregulated derivatives market (thanks to gramm and the other worshippers of the deregulation religion), we'd be having a housing downturn and mild recession right now. It's the massively leverage, completely non-transparent derivatives market that has wall street freaked and taxpayers going broke. VP Joe Biden said the stimulus has a 70% chance of working.which really means it has a 50% chance of working. It is laden with pork and programs that are wasteful, and it has aspects to it that are beneficial. If you recall LBJ's great society in the 60's and early 70's.Ten years later, the misery index -- the unemployment rate plus the inflation rate -- was 19.9, heading for 22 percent in 1980. So this Obama stimulus is not a sure bet and I would bet anyone that before years end he will be back again for Stimulus part 2 because this one that got passed last week is off the mark and its effect is too far out into the future the stock market is a voting mechanism, and it has dropped approx -10% since the bill got passed, so that is a vote of no confidence in the bill and the current fix it proposals out there There is not one pork or earmark project in the bill. You may not like some of the spending but it's a spending bill, that's how you stimulate. The stimulus bill was not enough and there will be a need for another one later = due to republicans like bettyblue who cut it back and have some secret way to stimulate without spending. The great society spending of the 60s was at a time of economic expansion, not a time of potential economic depression. Hoover reflects perfectly bettyblue's economic philosophy at a time of impending depression and we know how that turned out. Let's get it straight, obama did not push a stimulus bill because he wants to, he's doing it because of the crisis created in the past 8 yrs by people that I assume bettyblue loved. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: Stimulus Package what a bill of goods the American people have been sold.it is not a stimulus, it is plain old government spending, they call it a stimulus thoughexcuse me, I have a degreee in economics and have studied it for 30 yearswhat are they stimulating?...they missed the target by milesbut its politicians hard at work...telling us what they want us to hear! That's a similar attitude to those whose 'expert' economic back ground got us into this mess in the first place. The same kind of in-it-for-the-wealthy 'experts' who fought tooth and nail against FDR's New Deal spending. The same kind of thinking found with the obstructionist right wingers who ran the GOP economic titanic we face today. [NOTE: Stock market crash was in 1929 under Republican President Herbert Hoover. FDR was inaugurated in 1933.] Here are some hard facts: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest
[FairfieldLife] The Loony Republican Party is in Meltdown
~~ Limbaugh blasts GOP party head Steele, questions why any Republican would ever give a dime to the RNC ~~ In a little-noticed interview Saturday night, Steele dismissed Limbaugh as an entertainer whose show is incendiary and ugly. Steele's criticism makes him the highest-ranking Republican to pick a fight with the popular and polarizing conservative talk show host. But the new RNC chairman's extraordinary comments won't sit well with the millions of conservative listeners Limbaugh draws each week, and Steele aides scrambled to limit the damage Monday morning by trying to change the subject. Rahm Emanuel and the Democrats know they lose an argument with the Republican Party on substance so they are building straw men to attack and distract, said RNC spokesman Alex Conant. The feud between radio host Rush Limbaugh and Rahm Emanuel makes great political theater, but it is a sideshow to the important work going on in Washington. RNC Chairman Michael Steele and elected Republicans are focused on fighting for reform and winning elections. The Democrats' problem is that the American people are growing skeptical of the massive government spending being pushed by Congressional leaders like Nancy Pelosi. Limbaugh, asked to respond, said he'd save his counter-attack for his listeners. I'll handle it on the radio, he wrote in an e-mail... http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090302/pl_politico/19498 == Well, Limbaugh struck back today on his radio show. It looks like Limbaugh called on Republicans to stop donating to the Republican party. Here are some choice excerpts from Rush's response to Michael Steele, March 2, 2009: It seems to me that it's Michael Steele who is off to a shaky start . Now, Mr. Steele, if it is your position as the chairman of the Republican National Committee that you want a left wing Democrat president and a left wing Democrat Congress to succeed in advancing their agenda, if it's your position that you want President Obama and Speaker Pelosi and Senate leader Harry Reid to succeed with their massive spending and taxing and nationalization plans, I think you have some explaining to do. Why are you running the Republican Party? Why do you claim you lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it that President Obama succeeds? I frankly am stunned that the chairman of the Republican National Committee endorses such an agenda I don't understand why you're asking Republicans to donate to the Republican National Committee if their money is going to be spent furthering the agenda of Barack Obama? If we don't want Obama and Reid and Pelosi to fail, then why does the RNC exist, Mr. Steele? Why are you even raising money? === ---The first African-American titular head of the Republican party versus the racist bigot who really heads the Republican party. Guess which one is going to win this battle, and which one is going to be canned first? How long until Rush starts singing racist songs about Steele? http://www.americablog.com/2009/03/limbaugh-blasts-gop-party-head-steele.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
good move. i listened to the argument that said keep putting money in mutual funds and you are buying more shares for less. didn't make a bit of sense to me. all i have done since the beginning of the year is watch the stock market move down, down, down...there is still plenty of time to get back in as things recover, but that won't be for awhile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I like to tell my relatives that I was stupid enough to listen to conspiracy theorists and moved my funds into cash. They used to give me a hard time about conspiracy theories. Now they're kinda left speechless. :-D enlightened_dawn11 wrote: i moved everything into cash earlier this year and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. no money to be made on stocks for at least this calendar year. -
[FairfieldLife] FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS ???
Does anyone know anything about this? I can't find references to the Eminent Domain thing on any mainstream news sites - only right wing blogs. February 26, 2009 FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain-as-collateral.html DEBTS! Beijing, China -- The United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves! On February 11, Bloomberg Business News reported that China was seeking guarantees for its US Government debt ( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601009sid=a_dsDz145J_A Story Here), and it now appears they got it. Well placed senior sources at the US Embassy in Beijing CONFIRM the formal written agreement was delivered by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her recent trip to China. This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government. Put simply, the feds have actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to take all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt. This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow. Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only take when providing just compensation for what they've taken. Who decides what constitutes just compensation? The government! in past takings homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts. Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to take our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario. . . . . . The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, they owed us $700 Billion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt. With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China. The taking would be a valid public use because it was taken in payment of the public debt China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar? If you own a $200,000 house in either state, you get a Chinese check for $20,000. Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand just compensation for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is just? China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China. You'll lose. People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to rent back what used to be their own property, as long as they continue to pay all their taxes (to China) ; but the land and buildings would belong to China! This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence. State Governments Knew This Was Coming In early February nine U.S. States began the process of re-asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution. At the time, I wrote about those state efforts ( http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/something-big-is-happening-9-us-states.html Here) and wondered why so many states were taking-up such an arcane issue in such a seemingly urgent fashion. I guess now, we know why. The states were obviously privy to what the feds were planning to do with granting Eminent Domain to China. The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves! This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) tries to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War. Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Don't expect a response, because bb109 just unsubscribed.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and Drug-use Pollicy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I propose a scientific solution. Dear Turq ex-patriot, u forming a committee, in exile? We spose that if you arranged to only have your meditation checked, it could be arranged to re-patriot you. For: While the lamp holds out to burn, The vilest sinner may return. I wish you well and hope you may return home one day. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS ???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Does anyone know anything about this? I can't find references to the Eminent Domain thing on any mainstream news sites - only right wing blogs. Hoax: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/domain.asp The right-wing forum FreeRepublic.com has taken down a thread discussing it, which they would never do if they weren't convinced there was nothing to it. Hal Turner, on whose blog the tale first appeared, is a white supremacist radio talk-show host known for making stuff up. FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain- as-collateral.html DEBTS! snip Posted by HalTurnerShow.com at http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain- as-collateral.html 2/26/2009 12:54:00 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Don't expect a response, because bb109 just unsubscribed. Too bad. Her impeccable logic was really elevating the dialogue here. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Don't expect a response, because bb109 just unsubscribed. Too bad. Her impeccable logic was really elevating the dialogue here. Oh, lord, coming from Sal of all people! She's going to steal Barry's Master of Inadvertent Irony crown for sure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on zero
---Zero has Indian origins related to the concept of pure Consciousness but in more recent times zero has become disconnected to the Absolute. G. Cantor formalized the notion of the Absolute Infinite, defining IT in relationship to transfinite numbers (various levels of infinities) and the countable numbers. The Absolute Infinite however, can be equated with Brahman, not excluding the relative infinities; and is thus not only pure Consciousness. In Cantor's terms, Brahman would be the Class of All Sets: (everything relative + Absolute) and = his Absolute Infinite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_cantor In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: Maharishi: 'It is a very genuine question. I will give an analogy first, and then further clarify the question. It's a very good question. 'Just as a child would ask his father, Now how is it that the whole tree-thousands of leaves, flowers and fruit-emerges from nothing? Sap is just nothing-emptiness. How can that nothingness become all this huge variety and express itself as this huge variety? 'Innumerable laws of nature, governing all these different aspects of the expression of the tree, are centered in one hollowness of the seed, which is abstract nothingness. There is an area of emptiness- a big zero-within the seed. There is nothing, but from that nothingness sprouts everything-all variety and multiplicity. 'Thus we understand that there is a field which is abstract, unmanifest-the Unified Field. Physics, chemistry, and physiology have located it. Mathematics has located it in a big zero-just like the hollowness of an empty seed. 'Just as from zero-in the zero you put one little line here, and it becomes nine, eight, six or five-so it is from the zero that huge number systems arise. Billions and billions arise; you can count any number. 'It is the same thing in the field of thinking. A tiny thought comes, Mango. A thought comes, I need a mango. Just this thought makes one stand and walk to the shop. If this shop doesn't have a good mango, then go to another and another. From where did all this huge activity start? Just the memory of the mango, I'll eat a mango. Just that one little thing spreads into so many varieties. 'This only shows that there is one source from which an infinite number of courses come out-from one source, all courses. This is a reality. Transcendental Consciousness is exploring, or identifying with, that one source which is unmanifest in itself. And from there, all manifestation begins. 'Now here is the answer to the question. From that one source, everything begins. Now elaborate on everything-one solar system, two solar systems, galaxies, millions and billions of suns, and an ever- expanding universe-from this one little source. Through the window of science we see the enormous functioning of the ever-expanding universe. 'Here is the secret of owning the universe, the secret of rising to invincibility and mastery. Mastery of what? Mastery of total Natural Law and the Constitution of the Universe. This little brain is the central point from where awareness can be infinitely expanded to control, command, and make use of the infinite creative intelligence of total Natural Law commanding the millions and billions of suns, moons, stars, and everything. Here is the one little control-the switchboard. Another example is that you can look through one little hole in the centre of a lens and see the whole panorama on the other side. 'The technique is practical, natural, and completely available to any human being through proper education-Vedic Education. Take it or lose it. Either remain slaves of situations and circumstances or be the commander of the infinite creative intelligence of total Natural Law. It depends upon education-Vedic Education-which has been forgotten. 'Now, with the grace of Guru Dev, and the grace of our Tradition of Masters, the seed is there. It has to be nourished, recovered, and made use of. This is our strength on the basis of which we can give the gift of invincibility to every government. 'The present governments have to learn something that they do not know. The Prime Minister and President of any country are respected for their social values, but they do not have the knowledge. They can have Total Knowledge now. We have been saying this for many years. . . . 'Eight thousand people from anywhere should be employed, given a comfortable life, and trained. Creating peace and harmony in world consciousness will be their profession. They should be trained, and I will train them all. . . . 'Collect eight thousand people from America, Europe, or here and there-two, three groups. Then you will be the creators of a new world. Tell the governments and the wealthy people. Tell the poor people to come and join the Peace
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama: Where's your lunch money, kid?
...it appears that there are some very suspicious ties to Social Security funding in all of this stimulatin' the Dems are proposing... Let's start with the new plan to subsidize Cobra payments for the unemployed. First of all, conceptually the idea is excellent. However, once again we need to look at the fine print and see where the money is going to come from. The basic mechanics are as follows http://www.seyfarth.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/publications.publications_\ detail/object_id/4b3ed79d-5d00-4dd0-a3bd-0bd111d773c7/COBRASubsidyinStim\ ulusPackagetoBenefitInvoluntarilyTerminatedEmployees.cfm : Something Stinks http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/something-stinks/ Posted on March 2, 2009 by Stateofdisbelief http://tinyurl.com/2rnlwm http://tinyurl.com/2rnlwm [http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/stench-modified.jpg?w=\ 468h=313] An assistance eligible individual will only be required to pay 35% of his or her COBRA premium. The remaining 65% of the COBRA premium will be reimbursed by means of a payroll tax credit to the employer (in the case of a self-funded plan), the plan (in the case of a multiemployer plan), or the insurer (in the case of an insured plan that is not subject to federal COBRA). The Secretary of the Treasury will issue guidance on how a claim for the tax credit is to be filed. If the payroll tax credits are insufficient to cover the COBRA expense, then the entity entitled to reimbursement will receive the remainder of reimbursement directly from the Secretary of the Treasury. So what is an employer payroll tax? Employer Payroll Taxes http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/qt/payroll_basics.htm Companies are responsible for paying their portion of payroll taxes. These payroll taxes are an added expense over and above the expense of an employee's gross pay. The employer-portion of payroll taxes include the following: · Social Security taxes (6.2% up to the annual maximum) · Medicare taxes (1.45% of wages) · Federal unemployment taxes (FUTA) · State unemployment taxes (SUTA) Uh oh bingo. Social Security tax payments made by the employer will be the source of the funding. Since Social Security funding costs are equally shared by the employer and the employee (each pay 6.2% of the employees wage), this proposal diverts the EMPLOYER's share to pay for this subsidy no? Let's see if there's more to confirm this theory (and note the quotation marks around the word pay in the first sentence): Employer's Paid COBRA Premium Subsidy Through Payroll Tax Credit http://www.nexsenpruet.com/assets/attachments/475.pdf The federal government will pay the subsidy by allowing employers to claim a credit equal to the subsidy against the requirement to make deposits or payments of payroll taxes, such as income tax withholding, employee FICA withholding, and employer FICA taxes. An employer is not allowed to take the payroll tax credit until the assistance eligible individual pays the subsidized premium. The federal government will make a direct payment to the employer for any portion of the subsidy that cannot be recovered by means of a credit. Well, since the only tax listed that could be considered a tax credit to the employer would be the employer's portion of FICA taxes, it appears that this is where the funds will come out of. So then, just what are FICA taxes? FICA Taxes http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/qt/payroll_basics.htm FICA stands for the Federal Insurance Contributions Act. The FICA tax consists of both Social Security and Medicare taxes. Social Security and Medicare taxes are paid both by the employees and the employer. Both parties pay half of these taxes. Employees pay half, and employers pay the other half. Together both halves of the FICA taxes add up to 15.3%. The 15.3% FICA tax is broken down as follows: · Social Security (Employee pays 6.2%) · Social Security (Employer pays 6.2%) · Medicare (Employee pays 1.45%) · Medicare (Employer pays 1.45%) Again something doesn't smell right here. OK, now, let's look at our big $13.00 per week stimulus tax credit. Where is THAT money coming from http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090226/BUSINESS07/9\ 02260368 ? The program provides that working people will get a tax credit for 6.2 percent of their earned income, up to $400 per person per year or up to $800 total for a married couple filing a joint tax return. What what what? Now, where did I hear that 6.2% figure before? Oh, yeah that's the shared portion of SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL TAXES. Once again, this money WILL NOT be taken from the employee, diverting this funding back to our wallets. So, what will all of this funding mean to the Social Security fund? I'm guessing it will mean reduced contributions to the fund in the amounts necessary to subsidize these initiatives. But then again I'm just musing. However, just for shitz and giggles, how much
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: snip, Thanks GS, Long time since I've had a history lesson.. It seems one good thing for the economy and, cheaper, would be to make sure not go about putting limits on individualism which stifles inventors, thinkers and others who want to remain responsible for themselves and support the economy. and, when it fails anyway, the wealth will end taken from the taxpayers and end up going into the same black hole. That is my concern, that we will end up with a 4-10 trillion deficit and not have much in terms of productive assets to show for it. (Investment in human capital is is an asset in my book)
[FairfieldLife] Hillary's Interactive Travel Map
http://tinyurl.com/ckcqws
[FairfieldLife] 'Pisces Fish by George Harrison'
'Pisces Fish' Rowers gliding on the river Canadian geese crap along the bank Back wheel of my bike begins to quiver The chain is wrapped around the crank Old ladies, who must be doggie training Walking, throwing balls, chasing all the sheep While the farmer stands around, and he’s complaining His mad cows are being put to sleep I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul Smoke signals from the brewery Like someone in there found the latest Pope In a vat of beer that keeps pumping out with fury While the church bell ringer’s tangled in his rope But there’s a temple on an island I think of all the Gods and what they feel You can only find them in the deepest silence I’ve got to get off of this big wheel I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul And I’ll be swimming until I can find those waters That’s the one unbounded ocean of bliss That’s flowing through your parents, sons and daughters But still an easy thing for us to miss Blades go skimming through the water I hear the coxswain shouting his instructions about With this crew oh, it could be a tall order Have we time to sort all these things out? Sometimes my life it feels like fiction Some of the days it’s really quite serene I’m a living proof of all life’s contradictions One half’s going where the other half’s just been And I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul I’m a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul
[FairfieldLife] 'The Republican Hate Machine'
The 'Just Say No', Republican 'Hate Machine', Led by Rush Limbaugh, is not a laughing matter... This abandonment of reasonable rhetoric, is reminiscent of fascist days, of old. The use of the term, 'Christian Right', would be quite an Insult to Jesus himself. These greedy bastards and slime, would rather keep every nickel, then to help our country Succeed, and help people at the bottom, and middle, who are suffering. We cannot trust these people anymore, because they only spew hate... Hatred is the direct opposite of Jesus' teachings, and this is blasphemy, At it's worst. Let the Republican party fall under it's own weight of lies and blinding greed. Robert Gimbel Madison, WI
[FairfieldLife] Coming to Fairfield, seek to learn.
Hi Everyone, I've recently come to the thought that I want to come study at MUM and an the process of researching the Fairfield area, luckily came to this thriving chat list. It would seem that many, if not most, of the people on this list are in Fairfield now. This got me to wondering, if you might know of and would share some online resources for the town which might include calendars, classifieds, pictures, etc? I am curious to learn more about the place before actually being there physically. Things like rent prices are also something I'd like to learn more about. I thank you in advance for considering this request. Cheers, Mike
[FairfieldLife] Re: Coming to Fairfield, seek to learn.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike m...@... wrote: Hi Everyone, I've recently come to the thought that I want to come study at MUM and an the process of researching the Fairfield area, luckily came to this thriving chat list. It would seem that many, if not most, of the people on this list are in Fairfield now. This got me to wondering, if you might know of and would share some online resources for the town which might include calendars, classifieds, pictures, etc? I am curious to learn more about the place before actually being there physically. Things like rent prices are also something I'd like to learn more about. I thank you in advance for considering this request. Cheers, Mike I used to live there. May go back one day to settle there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzfSJSNC5V8
[FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Sheryl Crow, Paul Horn, Moby - to perform
Paul McCartney, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Sheryl Crow, Paul Horn, Moby to performto concert to show support for initiative to teach one million children TM in USA http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/concert.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul McCartney, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Sheryl Crow, Paul Horn, Moby - to perform
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: Paul McCartney, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Sheryl Crow, Paul Horn, Moby to performto concert to show support for initiative to teach one million children TM in USA The homepage of the website specifically makes reference to it as an international initiative, suggesting that the funds raised will be for those located in any country to learn TM. Yet under the David's message link it says: Our Foundation was established to ensure that any child in America who wants to learn and practice the Transcendental Meditation program can do so. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/concert.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] How telomeres determine life span
In Greek myth, the Fates weave human life, with Clotho, Lachesis and Atropos determining the length of life, like the telomeres of DNA http://messagenet.com/myths/bios/fates.html http://snipurl.com/czkb7 [www_latimes_com] Genetic clues to predicting life span Inside chromosomes are telomeres that age as we age, and may serve as indicators of how long we'll live. By Cathryn Delude Los Angeles Times March 2, 2009 Wrinkles may betray our age externally, but our cells divulge their age -- and chronicle life's toll -- at the tips of our chromosomes. These tips, called telomeres, may also foretell our risk of early death. Telomeres are the protective caps made of repetitive chunks of DNA that keep the rest of the gene-laden chromosome from disastrously unraveling. But they lose bits of themselves with each cell division, so over a lifetime, like a counter, telomeres shorten. Eventually, shortened telomeres send cells into senescence, a retirement-like state in which they no longer divide or remain active but do not die. Senescent cells in our skin make us look withered; in our immune system, they make us susceptible to the diseases of aging such as heart disease, heart failure, diabetes and what's called a failure to thrive. Ultimately, if we could better understand the connections between telomeres and longer, healthier lives, we might know how to protect or enhance those chromosome tips. That might not require new drugs, but simply following what we already know about a healthy lifestyle. Disease fighters Most human studies on telomeres focus on white blood cells in the immune system, one of the few cell types in adults that produce an enzyme called telomerase. Telomerase maintains telomeres by adding back the DNA lost during cell division. Immune cells need telomerase so they can frequently divide and replenish themselves without losing their telomeres, said Dr. Elizabeth Blackburn, a biologist at UC San Francisco and a co-discoverer of telomeres and telomerase. But with age, telomerase diminishes, so immune cell telomeres eventually shorten. One recent study published in the July 2008 Journal of Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis and Vascular Biology, an American Heart Assn. journal, found that, among 780 patients with stable heart disease, people with the shortest telomeres in their immune cells had twice the risk of death and heart failure after 4.4 years as patients with the longest telomeres. Those in the highest-risk group had telomeres half the length of those in the lowest-risk group. Since we adjusted for age, we know that the telomere length is telling us something more than chronological age, said Dr. Ramin Farzaneh-Far, a cardiologist at UC San Francisco who analyzed the data. Hopefully it is measuring biological age. In other words, the same factors that predispose us to chronic diseases and make us look old before our time may also make telomeres age -- shorten -- beyond their years. High levels of stress hormones, inflammation, insulin and blood sugar, as well as habits such as smoking, fatty diets, obesity and sedentary living are all linked to shorter telomeres and lower telomerase levels. It makes sense, said Dr. Judith Campisi, an expert on telomeres at the Buck Institute for Age Research in Novato, Calif., who was not involved in the study. If you smoke, you're introducing oxidation into the bloodstream, and telomeres are more sensitive to oxidative stress than the rest of the genome, so they will shorten substantially. When you're stressed, your adrenal glands release stress hormones called glucocorticoids that tend to kill T-cells in the immune system. So more cells divide to replace them, and the more you drive cell proliferation, the more you wear down telomeres. A new study appearing in the inaugural issue of Aging adds a new twist to the connection between lifestyle and telomere length. It went back to blood samples stored from 236 healthy 70- to 79-year- olds for the National Institutes of Health-funded MacArthur Study of Successful Aging, led by UCLA researchers. The researchers measured the telomere length from patients' 1988 samples and from the same patients' 1991 samples and then tracked how many had died of cardiovascular disease. Men with the greatest rate of telomere shortening had three times the mortality rate. For women, change mattered less than baseline: There were 2.3 times more deaths among those starting out with the shortest telomeres. This study suggests that before people had the disease they had short telomeres, said Dr. Elissa Epel, an assistant professor of psychiatry at UC San Francisco who was involved in this and several other telomere studies. The telomere connection suggests that in some way, short telomeres may predispose people to heart disease. What's the link between blood cell telomeres and heart disease? asked Blackburn, who collaborated on this study. We think it's based
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul McCartney, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Sheryl Crow, Paul Horn, Moby - to perform
On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:52 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Our Foundation was established to ensure that any child in America who wants to learn and practice the Transcendental Meditation program can do so. Yeah, all two of them. I'd say David's made a pretty safe bet with this one. Sal
[FairfieldLife] 'Brown: USA Britain Marriage'
March 1, 2009
The special relationship is going global
Gordon Brown
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Historians will look back and say this was no ordinary time but a defining
moment: an unprecedented period of global change, and a time when one chapter
ended and another began.
The scale and the speed of the global banking crisis has at times been almost
overwhelming, and I know that in countries everywhere people who rely on their
banks for savings have been feeling powerless and afraid. But it is when times
become harder and challenges greater that across the world countries must show
vision, leadership and courage – and, while we can do a great deal nationally,
we can do even more working together internationally.
So now is the time for leaders of every country in the world to work together
to agree the action that will see us through the current crisis and ensure we
come out stronger. And there is no international partnership in recent history
that has served the world better than the special relationship between Britain
and the United States.
It is a relationship that has endured and flourished because it is based not
simply on our shared history but on the enduring values that bind us together –
our countries founded upon liberty, our histories forged through democracy and
an unshakeable belief in the power of enterprise and opportunity.
But if it reflects our values and our histories, this special relationship is
also a partnership of purpose, renewed by every generation to reflect the
challenges we face. In the 1940s it found its full force defeating fascism and
building the postwar international order; in the cold war era we fought the
growth of nuclear weapons and when the Berlin Wall fell we saw the end of
communism. In this new century, since the horrors visited on America in 2001,
we have worked in partnership to defeat terrorism.
Now, in this generation, we must renew our work together once again. A new set
of challenges faces the whole world, which summons forth the need for a
partnership of purpose that must involve the whole world. Rebuilding global
financial stability is a global challenge that needs global solutions. However,
financial instability is but one of the challenges that globalisation brings.
Our task in working together is to secure a high-growth, low-carbon recovery by
taking seriously the global challenge of climate change. And our efforts must
be to work for a more stable world where we defeat not only global terrorism
but global poverty, hunger and disease.
Globalisation has brought great advances, lifting millions out of poverty as
they reap the benefits of economic growth and trade. But it has also brought
new insecurities, as this – the first truly global financial crisis –
underlines. Globalisation is not an option, it is a fact, so the question is
whether we manage it well or badly.
I believe there is no challenge so great or so difficult that it cannot be
overcome by America, Britain and the world working together. That is why
President Obama and I will discuss this week a global new deal, whose impact
can stretch from the villages of Africa to reforming the financial institutions
of London and New York– and giving security to the hard-working families in
every country.
I see this global new deal as an agreement that every continent injects
resources into its economy. I believe that central to this new investment is
that every country backs a green recovery for the future, that every country
that wishes to participate in the international financial system agrees common
principles for financial regulation, coordinated internationally, and changes
to their own banking system that will bring us shared prosperity once again.
And that, together, we must agree to reform the mandate and governance of
global institutions to recognise the changing shape of the world economy and
the emergence of new players.
It is a global new deal that will lay the foundations not just fora sustainable
economic recovery but for a genuinely new era of international partnership in
which all countries have a part to play. This programme of internationally
coordinated actions includes six elements:
First, universal action to prevent the crisis spreading, to stimulate the
global economy and to help reduce the severity and length of the global
recession. Second, action to kick-start lending so that families and businesses
can borrow again. Third, all countries renouncing protectionism, with a
transparent mechanism to monitor commitments. Fourth, reform of international
regulation to close regulatory gaps so shadow banking systems have nowhere to
hide. Fifth, reform of our international financial institutions and the
creation of an international early warning system. And last, coordinated
international action to build tomorrow today – putting the world economy on an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
The darkest hour is just before the dawn. GWB and his cronies were wonderful. Working out (almost) the last of our dirty shit karma -- and soon the sun will shine. Well -- after the impending crash and all. The Republicans broke some records this time with examples like the multi-billion dollar Enron criminal operation, the far reaching Tom Delay and Abramoff fun times and the fallout from that and other scandals, but not to forget the 'accomplishments' of the Bush administration with Iraq, Katrina, the environment, science, the US Constitution, the rule of law, the open door to the Christian Right wackos, overt homophobic bigotry, the politicizing of the DOJ and almost every agency of government, the imposed Christianization of the military by the loonies, the billions of dollars thrown away in corrupt no bid recontruction Iraq contracts .. My God, I could fill a page. But the biggest damaging thing they did was to virtually eliminate any fiscally sound, responsible oversight over their cohort sponsors in the Corporate financial operations of America's economic machine. And they indeed did leave us with the global economic crisis we face today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Awful Financial Recovery Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, drpetersutphen drpetersutp...@... wrote: I know the truth, you liar! Yes, but you are clearly special. :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Some tangential thoughts -- First, we are all liars. If lying is not telling the truth. And who here knows the truth? Second, we sit in our own living space (our heads and hearts) and read what someone else wrote from their living space. Its certainly not uncommon that what we hear is not what was spoken. Or at least we hear something other that the intent or mood of what was spoken. Two mistakes are possible. 1) Someone says something neutral to nice, in an enthusiastic or funny way or at least neutral way, and we go bonkers, hearing inside our heads, an attack, thinking it an insult. So we rip off some choice words to protect our territory, our pride. The cycle of vindictiveness starts (and rarely then stops soon) 2) Someone says something nasty to us, and we interpret it as coming from a kind and loving soul -- and respond with these qualities. Which mistake gets us in more trouble? And ruins the dinner party? Number one of course. So what is the downside of always responding per door #2? Not much. It would seem the lowest risk, least stressful, and collectively enhancing path is door #2. In response to all posts. Makes sense. Let me take it our for a spin for a week. See how it takes the corners. Let love reign -- down upon us :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Not sure if this makes any sense, but I find it kind of incredible when people respond with softened emotions, rather than hardened emotions. Having responded once with tongue firmly in cheek, I'll respond more seriously. I don't think that what you're referring to is hardened emotions but manufactured emotions. My take on the dynamic of FFL in which some respond to minor provocation with a major display of emotion is that they are *indulging* in the emotion because they don't actually feel much emotion most of the time. They don't feel (or at any rate don't write here about feeling) emotion about the quiet and subtle things in life. Stuff like the appreciation of a great sunrise or sunset, the laughter of child- ren, the way your body feels after a good run. Marek is a clear example of someone who *is* capable of doing this. His posts on surfing and his and Edg's posts on the rush of Trikking are often the closest we get to positive emotions on this forum. And I am not exactly the gold standard in this regard, either; I sometimes gush about movies I have seen that turn me on, but too often I don't express enought positive emotion, either. But negative emotion? That we've got in spades. Let someone suggest a way of seeing a poster that doesn't jibe with that poster's way of seeing themselves, and the snit hits the fan. It often feels as if they take in the minor provocation and shoot it up like meth and then react emotionally *as if it had been a major provocation*. A joke about someone becoming so angry that they burst into flames as a result of spon- taneous combustion becomes a death threat. Someone pointing out a racist remark made by a person who once *bragged* about being a racist becomes an issue so emotional that the person threatens real-world retaliation. Someone criticizes (or worse, laughs at) Maha- rishi and others react as if *they* had been criticized, or attacked physically. Point out that Hillary Clinton has a proven track record as more of a creator of conflict rather than a resolver of it, and some turn that into a slur against all women. I'm not actually *complaining* about all this manufactured emotion. It's what makes FFL entertaining. It's like watching a soap opera. High drama, low consciousness. My suggestion for WHY manufactured emotion is more acceptable here on FFL than real emo- tion is that that's the situation in the TMO as well. There are certain situations in which an over-display of emotion are considered good and others in which an over-display of emotion are considered bad. Good emotions include bhakti meltdowns when talking about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and God. Another good emotion is righteous anger, when someone says something negative about any of that holy trinity, or TM itself. Bad emotions involve anything that suggests that you're still (spit) human, and mired in Maya, like...uh... tolerance of opinions that differ from yours, or tolerance of someone perceiving Maharishi, TM, the TMO, or you differently than you'd like them to be perceived. Stick with the good emotions, and amplify them out of proportion. That's the FFL Way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Full Moon Messages from the Pleiadians
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: Where are our full moon messages?? Perhaps Lou ran out of incense (Celestial Nag Champa from Prasad Gifts), or the Pleiadians got tired of mooning him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: ... America. If there is a market for the drugs, that means that the people who live in this medi- tating community DID NOT FIND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN MEDITATION. * Vasistha's Yoga p.499 http://tinyurl.com/6xndt If the teaching falls on a qualified heart, it expands in that intelligence. It does not stay in the unqualified heart. Bob, Perhaps you should tell the folks who maintain http://www.tm.org that they should update their pages with this new information. Just to help out, I have placed a few of the quotes that need editing below, with the necessary changes in bold (or inside asterisks or both, depending on your email reader): *Almost* anyone can practice the technique success- fullymore than six million people have learned worldwide. If you can think a thought, *and are qualified*, you can practice the Transcendental Meditation technique. And when you practice the technique regularly, twice a day, *if you are qualified* you'll gain a wide range of benefits for your mind, your body, your relationships, your community, and your world. Does It Work for Everyone? The Transcendental Meditation technique is easy and enjoyable, and it works for everyone, *as long as they are qualified*. People of all ages, educational back- grounds, cultures and religions in countries throughout the world practice the Transcendental Meditation technique and enjoy its wide range of personal benefits, *if they are qualified*. The Transcendental Meditation technique is an *almost* universal technique. It's taught the same way everywhere in the world by trained, fully qualified teachers *to people who may or may not be as qualified as they are*. Scientific research confirms that the same restful experience is gained by *qualified* people on all continents, and that the same valuable benefits are enjoyed around the world, *as long as they are qualified*. *Qualified* people of all ages can practice the Transcendental Meditation technique successfully. Even a 10-year-old child (*if qualified*) can do it. And research shows that the more years you meditate (*assuming you are qualified*) , the younger your body becomes, compared to others your same age that don't practice the technique (*whether they are qualified or not*). Once you learn the Transcendental Meditation technique, it's likely you'll begin to notice positive changes within the first few days or weeks, *but not certain because the teaching only works if you are qualified*. When you give your mind the experience of its own settled state of awareness and your body this profound level of rest twice a day, it doesn't take long to gain more energy and intelligence, creativity and joy, calmness and confidence in life. *As long as you are qualified, that is*.
[FairfieldLife] USA and modern, tropical astrology
From the POV of Western astrology, one of the most drastic transits at the moment on the US radix chart might, IMHO, be transiting Uranus in Pisces opposing US natal Neptune in Virgo: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=424261 In addition, there's Saturn hovering within a couple of degrees of that almost exact opposition transit.
