[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Ya know that Edg has reached the bottom of his already-small intellectual barrel when he has to try the shame the ex-pat for running away from his country routine. :-) Anyone who still identifies with nationalism and thinks of themselves in terms of loyalty to the patch of dirt they were born on and the glory of staying on it deserves the life they get. Others travel, and identify only with what travels with them -- their selves and the Self. If one were to treat their pronouncements as some kind of rule or truism, then Edg Duveyoung and Judy Stein and Willytex -- the ones who have so often repeated this tired old misplaced jealousy of those who got the hell out of Dodge represent with their lives and the way they walk *their* walk the happiness karma of nationalism and staying put in one's country of birth. You do the math. Mark Twain said, Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness. I wouldn't go so far as to say fatal, but it sure can put a dent in the armor of prejudice, bigotry, and narrow- mindedness in my opinion. Others feel that they should stay at home and polish their armor. Again, use your assessment of their own happiness levels to judge the effectiveness of their stay-at-home philosophy. As input for those of the Edg-Judy-Willytex School of Just Stay Put And Glory In Being American as an excuse for why they're too lazy to see the rest of the world and experience what it might be like to live there, I pass along the information that the Americans who actually *do* travel are regarded these days by people in the rest of the world as a curious anomaly, and one worthy of interest and potential friendship. It is so rare to see a real, live American living in so many places in the world that the presence of one indicates that this is someone who has chose to Find Out For Himself rather than sit at home in front of the TV and the computer and claim that they know what the elephant of the world is like by feeling the screen. Six wise, blind elephants were discussing what humans were like. Failing to agree, they decided to determine what humans were like by direct experience. The first wise, blind elephant felt the human, and declared, 'Humans are flat.' The other wise, blind elephants, after similarly feeling the human, agreed. :-) Edg, you'd do better to stick to trying to demonize me as an unrepentant sexual predator than as a cowardly American ex-pat. More people in the world mindlessly agree that the former is evil these days than the latter, which is actually regarded as an indicator of sanity. :-) Or, you could be honest for once and try to diss me for what is really causing the bug up your ass -- the fact that I laugh at the imaginary friend you call God, and at you for still needing one at your age. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Judy, if Barry gets to rail about me projecting, and asserting that it must be my broken personality that does so, then, hey, goose/gander time, sez moi -- if Barry's walk/talk law is upheld then he's projecting HIS own criticism of himself. Byron Katie time. Cue snare drum. And ain't it just the truest thing about him -- that he cannot be held to any talk if it requires him to walk it? Onliest walking he ever has done is away from his country, his gurus, his cultural values, his integrity, his sense of decency, his birth karma (ran away from the goal/challenge of being a life supporting American,) and let's not forget his familial roots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I have written before on the difference between talking the talk of one's spiritual path and walking the walk of it. And yes, as some have said, I have written about it enough that they claim to find it boring. I think that a larger reason than boring for the people saying this might be I couldn't find a way to refute it the first time and I can't find one now, so I'm going to call it 'boring' in hopes that he'll stop saying it. :-) Actually, I called your raps (not just this one by any means) repetitious, not boring. Interesting that you felt you needed to escalate the criticism, but I guess repetitious didn't work so well with your fantasy about the larger reason for the criticism. The whole point of repetitious, of course, is that your trademark raps have been *repeatedly refuted*. You keep bringing them back, in slightly different clothing, in the hope that this time they'll pass muster. Sorry, Charlie. The new outfit for the rap in question suffers from the same poor workmanship in its current iteration as all the other times you've inflicted it on us. The question is, why on earth did you think you were the only one aware of the difference between talking the talk and walking the walk? It's a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. That is extremely sad news. It's so mean-spirited. Means also they evidently have not changed. It's so sad and cold. The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if you want to serve in the TM-movement. It is worth pointing out that Maharishi's rule about never seeing other spiritual teachers is probably linked to the fact that back when he was getting his rocks off with his own female students, he seemed to have a preference for virgins. Some guys are uncomfortable having their performance measured against anyone else's -- in the sack or on the pulpit. How to keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Par-eee? Make sure they never get to see Par-eee. One would think that someone who claims that his tech- nique of meditation and path are the best would want his followers to check out the other, lesser techniques and paths and verify that for themselves. putting on my Maharishi as Donald Duck voice How many here have tried any other technique than TM? a few hands go up...they are dragged from the room How many who are left believe that TM is the best, most effective technique of meditation in the world? See? Almost everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu Xero yifux...@... wrote: from http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html [The following is an analysis of what has come to be called âAdvaita Syndromeâ or âAdvaita Disease,â written by a philosophical counselor, Greg Goode (see his website: www.heartofnow.com). This piece has often circulated anonymously, but Greg is the author. He recently wrote to me: Dear Timothy... Writing about these satsang conceits was inspired by several years of close observation of the zoological type satsangus teacheritis. I used to visit and hang with two or three satsang teachers per month for several years as they came through NYC [New York City]. Boy could I tell you stories. I bet you have some too! I'm glad to see your page on the craziness of the neo-satsang movement. There's not much advaita to it so I don't call it neo-advaita.] As if being a real Advaitan was a good thing. How many Advaitans does it take to screw in a light bulb? Four: - One to screw it in. - One to not screw it in. - One to both screw it in and not screw it in. - One too neither screw it in nor not screw it in. :-) The thing that amuses me even more than the Neo-Advaitan I've had a realization experience so I'm realized act is the Edg Duveyoung I've never had a realization exper- ience in my life but I understand Ramana Maharshi perfectly act. The former at least can be referred to as delusion based on subjective experience; the latter only as delusion based on a complete misunderstanding of the intellect and its limitations, as well as an even more complete mis- perception of the shallowness of the intellect making the claim.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ondine [movie]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Willy, I'd say about 99% of yours begin with the word So, followed by some inane piece of SillyWilly-crazed logic that to everyone here comes off as a desperate troll for attention. I don't have a lot of time on my hands to spend wandering around every post on FFL. However, when moved, I do post, generally about music. I can go away from FFL for months at a time. When I drop back in, two things, like death and taxes, are givens: Judy will be obsessing about Barry, and you'll be writing something along the lines of: So, you believe that pedophilia is OK for everyone. You're not making any sense today. You need to get some smarts since you sound real angry from the waxing that bla-bla gave you yesterday. Go Figure You call these your favorite phrases. Dude, I'm sorry to inform youthese are your ONLY phrases. I completely understand why Curtis bailed. He was bored to death. It is worth pointing out that with regard to one of these death and taxes inevitabilities, when I was off enjoying Paris for a few days instead of reading or writing to FFL, she could think of almost nothing to say. The problem with being completely reactive is that when the thing you've been reacting to goes away, it becomes obvious very quickly that you have nothing of your own to say, and can *only* react. I stick around so that these guys can pretend to have something to say. It's my path in life -- the Dr. House Dharma. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Argentina, soccer and YF?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_re...@... wrote: It did a lot for the USA didn't it? Well, as a Finn, ice-hockey is my game (I'm/was at least a fairly good skater, despite my rather poor balance, or stuff. Go figure!). I'm only marginally interested in soccer. But I believe the USA did rather/extremely well...?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: If there are enough active Yffers in Argentina at the moment, Germany prolly has no chances of winning there mutual game?
[FairfieldLife] No sex in space? Yeah, right.
Once again, the Russians have beaten the Americans not only in the space race, but in the being-able-to-deal-with-sexuality-intelligently race. It has been pretty common knowledge since the earliest Russian space stations that the Cosmonauts got naughty. And when you think about it, who is *not* going to give it a try, given the challenge? Which is more of an achievement, after all -- being the 40th or 50th human in space, or being the 1st two to try Zero-G sex? This guy sounds like either the Edg Duveyoung or JohnR of space (The thought of having sex would never occur to me...that would make me less of a man) or the Bill Clinton of space (I did not have sex with that alien...I just offered her a puff on my cigar). At least his name is appropriate...what a Poindexter. :-) Sex Banned Aboard International Space Station: NASA Commander You can forget joining the 200-mile high club. NASA commander Alan Poindexter told a reporter who asked about the consequences if astronauts boldly went where probably no others have been http://www.france24.com/en/20100628-no-sex-please-were-astronauts-nasa-\ commander that sexual intercourse is not permitted aboard the International Space Station. We are professionals, Poindexter said. We treat each other with respect and we have a great working relationship. Personal relationships are not [...] an issue, he explained. We don't have them and we won't. The question about sexual relations in space came after an April mission http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/women-in-space-new-record_n_52\ 3414.html that put a record four women in orbit--the most women in space ever. Three women aboard the Discovery joined another women and four men aboard the International Space Station.
[FairfieldLife] John Cleese explains football to Americans who call it soccer
Not to be missed. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth as only John Cleese can tell it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo
[FairfieldLife] Seeing the Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber on Trivedi Does anyone from the TMO stand and watch who enters the arena to see these saints? Are they writing down names and then reporting them back to headquarters? Do people still get called in and scolded or worse for seeing people like Amma, Trivedi? I wonder if those days have passed. They haven't. Some people sneak in the back door. A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by the Karunamayi Homa who had previously helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO and got them removed from the dome program for seeing other saints. She stood in a couple different places for 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on and then left. She is of a temperament that people need to make choices. Evidently by Rick's report about someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things have not changed within the Tmo. That is a shame. So there must be people who still feel it their duty to report on others. Thing is, I doubt anyone outside of the small inner circle cares at all if someone is going to see other saints, or thinks less of people who do so. I recall hearing here on FFL that Ketih Wallace and a few others had gone to see some healer guy (John someone) and had good results regarding a health issue. I assumed that meant things were more relaxed. There were many years where seeing Jerry Jarvis was practically OTP, and now he is accepted, more or less.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by the Karunamayi Homa who had previously helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO and got them removed from the dome program for seeing other saints. She stood in a couple different places for 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on and then left. She is of a temperament that people need to make choices. Evidently by Rick's report about someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things have not changed within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by reporting them to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of reading books that have been declared Off The Program so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase People need to make choices. I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's Tell only the sweet truth seems to be Lie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
This is what the age of enlightenment looks like --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. That is extremely sad news. It's so mean-spirited. Means also they evidently have not changed. It's so sad and cold. The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if you want to serve in the TM-movement. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Ya know that Edg has reached the bottom of his already-small intellectual barrel when he has to try the shame the ex-pat for running away from his country routine. :-) Anyone who still identifies with nationalism and thinks of themselves in terms of loyalty to the patch of dirt they were born on and the glory of staying on it deserves the life they get. Others travel, and identify only with what travels with them -- their selves and the Self. And still others travel to *escape* the self, never allowing themselves to recognize that the misery that drives them to seek refuge in one country after another is a function of *who* they are rather than *where* they are. Such people tend to move compulsively from place to place, never finding satisfaction in where they plant themselves, never able to put down roots *because* the unhappiness of their self travels with them. You can usually identify this type of perennial traveler by the way they trash wherever they came from in an attempt to convince themselves they have good reason to be constantly on the move. If one were to treat their pronouncements as some kind of rule or truism, then Edg Duveyoung and Judy Stein and Willytex -- the ones who have so often repeated this tired old misplaced jealousy of those who got the hell out of Dodge See, one of Barry's Rules is that criticism of anything he does is due to Jealousy. (Not sure what misplaced jealousy is. If the purported jealousy is indeed misplaced, it must be because there isn't anything in Barry's life to be jealous *of*. I smell a Freudian slip here, but let's set that aside for now.) As with all the rest of Barry's Rules, it applies only to others, never to him. Thus his shame those who don't run away from their country routine cannot possibly be due to Jealousy of those who never found living in the land of their birth so uncomfortable they had to leave it permanently. snip As input for those of the Edg-Judy-Willytex School of Just Stay Put And Glory In Being American as an excuse for why they're too lazy to see the rest of the world and experience what it might be like to live there, Oooopsie. Lived in Munich for a year when I was younger, traveled all over Europe. Loved it. May do it again after I retire. Won't likely *stay* abroad; I like it here too, and I have roots here that I cherish. But I've never gloried in being American any more than I would ever glory in being an expat and constantly trashing my native country the way Barry does.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Good post Turquoise, I live in a pueblo of 150,000 people with a beautiful climate, good economy (no extreme poverty) and low prices, and am one of only 3 persons from the U.S. (who were born in the US). It causes a lot of attention to be focused on me, but that is mostly a good thing because these people are not nearly so racist fearful and hating as I knew people in all parts of the US to be. The extra dose of attention that I get from people is a tool that helps me to refine my senses of what is really real of the invisible spiritual energetic world, which I am doing completely on my own with my own personal experience, after years of simply reading and hearing the words of others. And that are the lines of attention which are the basis of all of our awareness, but first of all recoginzed in common situations, like when one feels that another is looking at them, and through subtle analysis can be discerned the thoughts and life experience of others. As far as all the talk about following others, and worrying about what so and so organization would feel about it, it all seems so juvinile and limited that I can't imagine how any of those people are fufilling their prime objective, which is to pay honor to their personal spirit and intuition of what to do and when. One should be more like a pirate and do things for personal objectives, and so long as one is not hurting anyone, to hell with anyone who would tell us to otherwise. Anything is worth a try, but don't place yourself in a trap which is purely for the benefit of others. Nobody else is going to make you enlightened. If you can't do it on your own and put it in your own unique words based only on personal experience, that is to rightly claim the knowlege and take credit for it, then it can't be of much value. BTW, don't waste your attention worrying about the world. It's going to hell in a handbasket and to think that one can do anything substantial about it is masturbating in self importance, which is what the Maharishi was doing. That is why he was half blind to energetic realities. From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 1:42:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure. Ya know that Edg has reached the bottom of his already-small intellectual barrel when he has to try the shame the ex-pat for running away from his country routine. :-) Anyone who still identifies with nationalism and thinks of themselves in terms of loyalty to the patch of dirt they were born on and the glory of staying on it deserves the life they get. Others travel, and identify only with what travels with them -- their selves and the Self. If one were to treat their pronouncements as some kind of rule or truism, then Edg Duveyoung and Judy Stein and Willytex -- the ones who have so often repeated this tired old misplaced jealousy of those who got the hell out of Dodge represent with their lives and the way they walk *their* walk the happiness karma of nationalism and staying put in one's country of birth. You do the math. Mark Twain said, Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness. I wouldn't go so far as to say fatal, but it sure can put a dent in the armor of prejudice, bigotry, and narrow- mindedness in my opinion. Others feel that they should stay at home and polish their armor. Again, use your assessment of their own happiness levels to judge the effectiveness of their stay-at-home philosophy. As input for those of the Edg-Judy-Willytex School of Just Stay Put And Glory In Being American as an excuse for why they're too lazy to see the rest of the world and experience what it might be like to live there, I pass along the information that the Americans who actually *do* travel are regarded these days by people in the rest of the world as a curious anomaly, and one worthy of interest and potential friendship. It is so rare to see a real, live American living in so many places in the world that the presence of one indicates that this is someone who has chose to Find Out For Himself rather than sit at home in front of the TV and the computer and claim that they know what the elephant of the world is like by feeling the screen. Six wise, blind elephants were discussing what humans were like. Failing to agree, they decided to determine what humans were like by direct experience. The first wise, blind elephant felt the human, and declared, 'Humans are flat.' The other wise, blind elephants, after similarly feeling the human, agreed. :-) Edg, you'd do better to stick to trying to demonize me as an unrepentant sexual predator than as a cowardly American ex-pat. More people in the world mindlessly agree that the former is evil these days than the latter, which is actually regarded as an indicator of sanity. :-) Or, you could be honest for once and try to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ondine [movie]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Willy, I'd say about 99% of yours begin with the word So, followed by some inane piece of SillyWilly-crazed logic that to everyone here comes off as a desperate troll for attention. I don't have a lot of time on my hands to spend wandering around every post on FFL. However, when moved, I do post, generally about music. I can go away from FFL for months at a time. When I drop back in, two things, like death and taxes, are givens: Judy will be obsessing about Barry, and you'll be writing something along the lines of: So, you believe that pedophilia is OK for everyone. You're not making any sense today. You need to get some smarts since you sound real angry from the waxing that bla-bla gave you yesterday. Go Figure You call these your favorite phrases. Dude, I'm sorry to inform youthese are your ONLY phrases. I completely understand why Curtis bailed. He was bored to death. It is worth pointing out that with regard to one of these death and taxes inevitabilities, when I was off enjoying Paris for a few days instead of reading or writing to FFL, she could think of almost nothing to say. Translation: The only posts of mine Barry actually *notices* are those that are about him. If they're about anything else--like, say, the oil spill in the Gulf--they're nothing, of no consequence. guffaw (Notice that Joe's post was about WillyTex and mentioned me only in passing in the middle of the post, but Barry was so focused on that passing mention he simply referred to me as she.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
What if someone has rock star or movie star status? They seem to be exempt from the list of who to remove? From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 29 June, 2010 7:41:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by the Karunamayi Homa who had previously helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO and got them removed from the dome program for seeing other saints. She stood in a couple different places for 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on and then left. She is of a temperament that people need to make choices. Evidently by Rick's report about someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things have not changed within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by reporting them to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of reading books that have been declared Off The Program so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase People need to make choices. I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's Tell only the sweet truth seems to be Lie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
There's not much advaita to it so I don't call it neo-advaita... TurquoiseB As if being a real Advaitan was a good thing. Being a 'real' Advaitan like Ramana Maharishi means that you have given up the dualistic, materialistic point-of-view, and you accept that there is only one non-dual Absolute Truth, not many. How many Advaitans does it take to screw in a light bulb? Four: - One to screw it in. - One to not screw it in. - One to both screw it in and not screw it in. There is a redundant statement in this little limerick. Who can spot it? - One too neither screw it in nor not screw it in. There is only one Advaitan to screw - not four. The others are illusory. You have mis-stated the Advaita position, so this is a logical fallacy.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber on Trivedi
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber on Trivedi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:28 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber on Trivedi Does anyone from the TMO stand and watch who enters the arena to see these saints? Are they writing down names and then reporting them back to headquarters? Do people still get called in and scolded or worse for seeing people like Amma, Trivedi? I wonder if those days have passed. They haven't. Some people sneak in the back door. A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. That is a shame. So there must be people who still feel it their duty to report on others. Thing is, I doubt anyone outside of the small inner circle cares at all if someone is going to see other saints, or thinks less of people who do so. I recall hearing here on FFL that Ketih Wallace and a few others had gone to see some healer guy (John someone) and had good results regarding a health issue. True. It was Lyme Disease. And so did a woman who has been one of the most devoted, dedicated, enthusiastic MUM staff members for many years. Bevan recently fired her because of her involvement with John Douglass. I guess he didn't have the balls to fire Keith. I assumed that meant things were more relaxed. There were many years where seeing Jerry Jarvis was practically OTP, and now he is accepted, more or less. Certain of the bigwigs are enjoying a nostalgia phase. I'm sure that if Jerry got too creative, he be out again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints coming to Fairfield
yifuxero: No! Karunamayi and the Hugging Saint are not Neo-Advaitins... So, why is Karunamayi NOT a Neo-Advaitin? This should be an easy question to answer if you are an Advaitin. According to Sarlo's Guru Rating Service, Amma is a Neo-Tantric.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
Of course not. A wad of cash will heal all spiritual wounds with the TM organization. But if you are on staff, sucking the money from them, then that in itself is a good thing, and if you are subtle you can have your cake and eat it too, otherwise, to hell with it all. Don't be a wussy. It damages your spirit. From: ditzyklanmail carc...@yahoo.co.in To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 8:45:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints What if someone has rock star or movie star status? They seem to be exempt from the list of who to remove? From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroup s.com To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, 29 June, 2010 7:41:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ ... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by the Karunamayi Homa who had previously helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO and got them removed from the dome program for seeing other saints. She stood in a couple different places for 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on and then left. She is of a temperament that people need to make choices. Evidently by Rick's report about someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things have not changed within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by reporting them to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of reading books that have been declared Off The Program so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase People need to make choices. I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's Tell only the sweet truth seems to be Lie.
RE: [FairfieldLife] The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yifu Xero Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 PM To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis from http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html [The following is an analysis of what has come to be called “Advaita Syndrome” or “Advaita Disease,” written by a philosophical counselor, Greg Goode (see his website: www.heartofnow.com). This piece has often circulated anonymously, but Greg is the author. He recently wrote to me: Dear Timothy... Writing about these satsang conceits was inspired by several years of close observation of the zoological type satsangus teacheritis. I used to visit and hang with two or three satsang teachers per month for several years as they came through NYC [New York City]. Boy could I tell you stories. I bet you have some too! I'm glad to see your page on the craziness of the neo-satsang movement. There's not much advaita to it so I don't call it neo-advaita.] LUCKNOW DISEASE - linguistic malady befalling seekers at Papaji's [HWL Poonja, 1913-97, of Lucknow, India]. Characterized by never using the word I to encourage one's self and also to show others that there is no one [no reified ego] at home here. Instead, they would say things like This form is going to the rest room. ADVAITA SHUFFLE - Conversational gambit. What [Papaji disciple] Andrew Cohen accused [another Papaji disciple] Gangaji of doing when she didn't want to talk about ethics and enlightenment. Jumping to the absolute level at odd times. Like when the receptionist asks why you were late for your doctor's appointment. There's no one here to go anywhere or be late for anything. LANDING - Losing one's enlightenment. What Gangaji accused Andrew Cohen of having done. Term used by those who think of enlightenment as a kind of thing that can be lost. Something like claiming enlightenment and then getting peevish and petty over who pays the tip at the dinner. NONDUAL POLICE - Those who badger others to use nondual terminology. Whenever they hear someone saying something like I'm going out for coffee, they barge in: WHO is going out for coffee?? Nondual police want everyone to always be in constant Ramana-self-inquiry-mode. THE EYE THING - Keeping eye contact with the other person as long as possible. Whoever drops their gaze first is not as established in the Beloved. Some blinking is OK, but not too much. The deeper into the Self you are, the longer you can hold it. Used by many satsang teachers. One of my friends can out-stare anyone. He kinds of drops into a Candidiasis-mind-fog, and hours can go by. Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Actually, it looks like Tim Conway's page - http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html - to which you linked, covers it nicely, so maybe you don't need to bother. I'll read that, and I'll be interviewing Tim on July 7 and get into the issue with him. I'll have to contact Greg Goode too. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
yifuxero: Try Buddhism. I recommend Lama Zopa... You seem to be getting confused - Lama Zopa is teaching Neo-Advaita! Everyone knows that Zopa believes that we are all 'Buddhas' from birth. According to Mahayana Buddhism, we all possess the Buddha Nature. You are already enlightened - all you have to do is Awaken! He then revealed the teachings of the Four Noble Truthsthat show the path to liberation, the Paramitayana paththat shows the path to full enlightenment, and the tantric path which brings enlightenment very quicklyeven in one lifetime... - Lama Zopa http://tinyurl.com/2dg2srk
RE: [FairfieldLife] Seeing the Saints
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Seeing the Saints --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber on Trivedi Does anyone from the TMO stand and watch who enters the arena to see these saints? Are they writing down names and then reporting them back to headquarters? Do people still get called in and scolded or worse for seeing people like Amma, Trivedi? I wonder if those days have passed. They haven't. Some people sneak in the back door. A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by the Karunamayi Homa who had previously helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO and got them removed from the dome program for seeing other saints. You noticed this? Were you in FF? Was it Wendy Cavanaugh by any chance? I saw her at a Karunamayi thing once and suspected that she wasn't there for her own benefit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod1...@... wrote: Good post Turquoise, I live in a pueblo of 150,000 people with a beautiful climate, good economy (no extreme poverty) and low prices, and am one of only 3 persons from the U.S. (who were born in the US). My little town in Spain has a stable population of about 28,000, but being a tourist town can swell to twice that size in the summer, four times that size during big fiestas. I have no idea how many Americans live here, but my guess is that it's less than 50, as opposed to thousands of Brits. It causes a lot of attention to be focused on me, but that is mostly a good thing because these people are not nearly so racist fearful and hating as I knew people in all parts of the US to be. I get almost no attention at all, which is how I like things. Castanedan inaccessibility, and all that. Welcome to FFL, dude. I look forward to you posting more. Don't pay too much attention to the Troll Trio of Judy, Willytex, and Edg. IMO they were all three cloned from the same piece of asshole tissue and separated soon after their test tube birth. :-) Willytex tells everyone what's what in the world of how to be a TM teacher while never having been one. Edg tells people all about women and how to treat them properly in a sexual situation, while having slept with a grand total of two women in his life. Judy also makes pronouncements about the definitive interpretation of things Maharishi taught, while never having met him herself. She doesn't like it when I point this last little fact out. She won't like it when I point out that her indignant claim in this thread that she *has* traveled and lived outside the US dates to (in her words, in a post here), the early 50s. In her mind, traveling and living in Europe with Daddy and Mommy that many years ago qualifies her to comment on what it's like to live outside the US as an ex-pat now. :-) Bhairitu (another of the folks here who has walked the walk of travel more recently than 50-55 years ago) refers to Fairfield Life as the Funny Farm Lounge. You'll learn very quickly how true that is. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Argentina, soccer and YF?
Card--they're out. They tied two games, won one, and lost to Ghana--a nation which probably has zero yogic flyers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: It did a lot for the USA didn't it? Well, as a Finn, ice-hockey is my game (I'm/was at least a fairly good skater, despite my rather poor balance, or stuff. Go figure!). I'm only marginally interested in soccer. But I believe the USA did rather/extremely well...?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: If there are enough active Yffers in Argentina at the moment, Germany prolly has no chances of winning there mutual game?
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Cleese explains football to Americans who call it soccer
Funny-- the irony, of course, is that is was the English that created the term Soccer for Association Football. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Not to be missed. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth as only John Cleese can tell it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo
[FairfieldLife] MUM Launches Creative Musical Arts Program
Achievements http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/email_banner_new.jpg The latest developments from Maharishi University of Management u http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/email_header.jpg JUNE 28, 2010 • ISSUE 85 http://www.mum.edu/ University Website Photo1 http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/2010_06_28_photo01.jpg Professor Isabelle Matzkin, director of the Creative Musical Arts program Photo2 http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/2010_06_28_photo02.jpg Visiting faculty Jane Pitt, professional singer-songwriter (photo by Ken West) Photo3 http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/2010_06_28_photo03.jpg Visiting faculty Ed Sarath, music professor at the University of Michigan Photo4 http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/2010_06_28_photo04.jpg Visiting faculty Donald Sosin, professional film composer Photo5 http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/2010_06_28_photo05.jpg A songwriting lesson led by guest musician Rick Stanley MUM Launches Creative Musical Arts Program Maharishi University of Management is launching a new music program this fall, with courses on songwriting and music technology. Faculty will include renowned musicians from New York City and the University of Michigan. Students can earn a 20-credit minor in http://www.mum.edu/music/ Creative Musical Arts, choose music as a specialization of the BA in Media and Communications degree, or take music classes as electives. The department plans to expand the program into a major and a graduate program. The first academic year will commence with a summer festival of music workshops and concerts during the first week of August. “I’ve been fortunate to have an incredibly knowledgeable and dynamic team of professionals helping me design the curriculum,” said professor Isabelle Matzkin, who will head the program. “We are developing a very innovative approach to musical study, centered around the systematic development of creativity.” The program hopes to accommodate the wide range of musical interests among the students, from composing to performance to creating music digitally. Among the key individuals spearheading the program are Ed Sarath, professor of music and founder of the jazz department at the University of Michigan; Jane Pitt, award-winning composer and singer-songwriter; and Donald Sosin, professional film composer and performer. A number of other musicians are scheduled to teach courses as well, including top professionals in the fields of performing, composing, teaching, and music technology. Courses scheduled for the 2010/11 academic year include A New Approach to Music Theory; The Artistry of Songwriting; Music, Consciousness, and Veda; and Creative Music Technology. The program will also offer ongoing performance instruction with professional musicians in the area including individual and group lessons, as well as choirs and other ensembles. Some ensembles, such as the university choir, will also be open to members of the Fairfield community. “Music has a powerfully harmonizing and integrating influence on the individual and the environment,” said professor Matzkin. “Our goal is to provide an educational setting where students will harness that power and develop a personal, artistic voice capable of making a positive difference in the world.” For more information or to apply contact MUM Admissions at mailto:admissi...@mum.edu admissi...@mum.edu or 1-800-369-6480 1-800-369-6480 (from outside the USA: 1-641-472-1110 1-641-472-1110 ). To unsubscribe, click mailto:developm...@mum.edu?subject=unsubscribe here http://www.mum.edu/achievements/images/email_bottom.jpg Development Office http://www.mum.edu/donors , Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, IA 52557 641-472-1180 Copyright 2010, Maharishi University of Management. Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is prohibited without permission. SMMaharishi University of Management is a trademark licensed to Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation, a 501(c) (3) non-profit educational organization
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Been around the world. Seventeen countries. A total of six months in Asia via three trips. Year in Europe. Lived for a year or more in California, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, New York, Georgia, Florida and traveled in 40 states of America. and I was watching my pennies the whole time, so it's not like I was high-hatting it as an ugly American abroad or living the posh life here. Walked and walked and walked the local neighborhoods and markets everywhere. Learned a couple hundred words in each of many languages, lived in folks' homes, ate their food, worshiped with them in Buddhist temples and in the churches of Europe, and I've closed my eyes to meditate in public in diners and bus stations and on park benches and even in a tent next to a lake a mile from Maharishi in Seelisberg while surrounded by a herd of cows who seemed to like what I was, um, not-doing. I don't have an especial tee shirt for all the above, but one thing I did get out of it was that America is THE PLACE for personal freedoms of the sort that is missing in virtually every country. While in Spain, I authored and published a small book and I had to get permission (forms filled out and stamps purchased and samples given to some decider from the government) to authorize my printer to do the job for me. I dared not criticize Spain, see? In Taiwan, I saw the cops beating up the vendors and soldiers on guard every mile of every major highway. In Indonesia I traveled along a road for miles and miles with hundreds of thousands of people living on the roadsides in huts next to a canal that was both toilet and drinking water. I saw families living their whole lives on a patch of sidewalk where they owned about six parking spots and would watch your car for you while you parked it there -- for fifteen cents a day. There's dirt roads in downtown Jakarta. I saw grown men hunched over fencing wires all in a heap -- pounding the wires straight so that they could be resold. I saw ten year old girls selling flowers in the middle of traffic. Barbershops are places where you get a hand job in Asia, and every wife is expected to accept this. And on and on I can list the tragedies and twisted allowances of each culture that are seen, yes, in America too. It's a wash -- they've got their shit and we've got ours. We've got red-necks and they've got fundamentalists. We've got every sort of preacher on any stump, and they've got state religions, political philosophies backed up by guns, warlords and kings and corrupt to the core businesspersons. No stone can be thrown by anyone at any country. To me, being an American has been a life long intent of dwelling upon and recognizing the deeper dynamics of humanity, the common ground we share with virtually anyone anywhere, and my profit is that I feel like a true world citizen and only see my fellow citizens no matter the language, beliefs or local mores. I have loved so many with whom I only had but a few words of their language in which to express my feelings. After all my trips, coming home to America was bittersweet knowing of our crappola, but it was coming HOME. It wasn't about seeing family again, it was about putting a single foot on this soil from which I'd sprung. I love America for that which it stands, and I cry when so many fall so short of this mindset that the whole world wants for itself too -- freedom here is sweeter than any other freedom of other cultures -- I'm hardwired to assert this, yes, but intuitively, it seems true. And, if the world crumbles and all the paranoia turns out to have been 20/20, we can be sure that America will be blamed and that the unwashed everywhere will take it out on whatever American they can get their hands on. If an Israeli bulldozer can slowly grind a young woman into the mud, it's not a stretch to imagine Barry being targeted by the local crazies when 80% of the world is eating grass, shoe leather, and Soylent Green. Have fun OVER THERE Barry -- it may not last much longer. As for my imaginary friend, God, I am on record here espousing the impersonal God, the Absolute, as an infinitely subtle structure of existence that saturates by a spiritual hegemony every dynamic of consciousness and that it MIGHT be possible that one or more religions have the skinny on how to purify one's resonance with that ground-state's axioms and that doing such brings ease to living. Show of hands . . . anyone here envious of Barry's ex-pat life? Anyone here think his job security is firm? Anyone here think he's not going to high-tail it HOME when push comes to shove? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Ya know that Edg has reached the bottom of his already-small intellectual barrel when he has to try the shame the ex-pat for running away from his country routine. :-) Anyone who still identifies with nationalism and thinks of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Yeah, with a animal farm twist! From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 29 June, 2010 9:24:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod1...@... wrote: Good post Turquoise, I live in a pueblo of 150,000 people with a beautiful climate, good economy (no extreme poverty) and low prices, and am one of only 3 persons from the U.S. (who were born in the US). My little town in Spain has a stable population of about 28,000, but being a tourist town can swell to twice that size in the summer, four times that size during big fiestas. I have no idea how many Americans live here, but my guess is that it's less than 50, as opposed to thousands of Brits. It causes a lot of attention to be focused on me, but that is mostly a good thing because these people are not nearly so racist fearful and hating as I knew people in all parts of the US to be. I get almost no attention at all, which is how I like things. Castanedan inaccessibility, and all that. Welcome to FFL, dude. I look forward to you posting more. Don't pay too much attention to the Troll Trio of Judy, Willytex, and Edg. IMO they were all three cloned from the same piece of asshole tissue and separated soon after their test tube birth. :-) Willytex tells everyone what's what in the world of how to be a TM teacher while never having been one. Edg tells people all about women and how to treat them properly in a sexual situation, while having slept with a grand total of two women in his life. Judy also makes pronouncements about the definitive interpretation of things Maharishi taught, while never having met him herself. She doesn't like it when I point this last little fact out. She won't like it when I point out that her indignant claim in this thread that she *has* traveled and lived outside the US dates to (in her words, in a post here), the early 50s. In her mind, traveling and living in Europe with Daddy and Mommy that many years ago qualifies her to comment on what it's like to live outside the US as an ex-pat now. :-) Bhairitu (another of the folks here who has walked the walk of travel more recently than 50-55 years ago) refers to Fairfield Life as the Funny Farm Lounge. You'll learn very quickly how true that is. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Can't help myself. Gotta do a Willytex on this one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: As for my imaginary friend, God, I am on record here espousing the impersonal God, the Absolute, as an infinitely subtle structure of existence that saturates by a spiritual hegemony every dynamic of consciousness... So you're saying that your friend is not only imaginary but that you have an impersonal relationship with him? What's up with that? Go figure. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
I too have been disappointed in how others glom onto Advaita concepts in the manners listed below. It sucks. But it doesn't suck anymore than it sucks to be a Catholic and having to admit there are some evil priests. There's bad apples in every organization who are, yep, the ones that get interviewed by the press. The neo-Adviatans are of every ilk -- posers and phonies and true hearts too that, though well intended, simply have not yet gotten the Advaita tee shirt yet. But there they are on a stump. When one judges another religion or culture, it's a given that cherry picking any individual to prove one's case is disallowed out of hand. Therefore, putting down Advaita because of its followers is bankrupt from the start. And putting down, say, Capitalism or Communism for their followers -- same deal -- assholes grabbing camera time, bureaucratic positions, pulpits, et al. Only here or there does a star shine -- a saint Francis, a Socrates, an Aquinas, a Lincoln, a Ghandi, a Ramana Maharishi, a Guru Dev. There's where you can see what a religion or mindset is worth. Otherwise, why not just say, Look at this Barry guy -- might as well blow up the Earth. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yifu Xero Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 PM To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis from http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html [The following is an analysis of what has come to be called âAdvaita Syndromeâ or âAdvaita Disease,â written by a philosophical counselor, Greg Goode (see his website: www.heartofnow.com). This piece has often circulated anonymously, but Greg is the author. He recently wrote to me: Dear Timothy... Writing about these satsang conceits was inspired by several years of close observation of the zoological type satsangus teacheritis. I used to visit and hang with two or three satsang teachers per month for several years as they came through NYC [New York City]. Boy could I tell you stories. I bet you have some too! I'm glad to see your page on the craziness of the neo-satsang movement. There's not much advaita to it so I don't call it neo-advaita.] LUCKNOW DISEASE - linguistic malady befalling seekers at Papaji's [HWL Poonja, 1913-97, of Lucknow, India]. Characterized by never using the word I to encourage one's self and also to show others that there is no one [no reified ego] at home here. Instead, they would say things like This form is going to the rest room. ADVAITA SHUFFLE - Conversational gambit. What [Papaji disciple] Andrew Cohen accused [another Papaji disciple] Gangaji of doing when she didn't want to talk about ethics and enlightenment. Jumping to the absolute level at odd times. Like when the receptionist asks why you were late for your doctor's appointment. There's no one here to go anywhere or be late for anything. LANDING - Losing one's enlightenment. What Gangaji accused Andrew Cohen of having done. Term used by those who think of enlightenment as a kind of thing that can be lost. Something like claiming enlightenment and then getting peevish and petty over who pays the tip at the dinner. NONDUAL POLICE - Those who badger others to use nondual terminology. Whenever they hear someone saying something like I'm going out for coffee, they barge in: WHO is going out for coffee?? Nondual police want everyone to always be in constant Ramana-self-inquiry-mode. THE EYE THING - Keeping eye contact with the other person as long as possible. Whoever drops their gaze first is not as established in the Beloved. Some blinking is OK, but not too much. The deeper into the Self you are, the longer you can hold it. Used by many satsang teachers. One of my friends can out-stare anyone. He kinds of drops into a Candidiasis-mind-fog, and hours can go by. Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Actually, it looks like Tim Conway's page - http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html - to which you linked, covers it nicely, so maybe you don't need to bother. I'll read that, and I'll be interviewing Tim on July 7 and get into the issue with him. I'll have to contact Greg Goode too. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Welcome to FFL, dude. I look forward to you posting more. Don't pay too much attention to the Troll Trio of Judy, Willytex, and Edg. IMO they were all three cloned from the same piece of asshole tissue and separated soon after their test tube birth. :-) Translation: The three of us are among Barry's severest critics here, so he'd really rather you not read our posts, because they might clue you in to what a phony he is sooner than you'd realize it otherwise. snip Judy also makes pronouncements about the definitive interpretation of things Maharishi taught, while never having met him herself. She doesn't like it when I point this last little fact out. One thing you'll quickly discover about Barry is that he lies like a rug. What I make pronouncements about is what MMY *actually said*, the words I've heard him speak on video/audiotape or those he's put his name to in print. Barry tries very hard to make it seem as though it's somehow not legitimate for me to quote him from these sources given that I never met him. (As Willytex would say, Go figure.) And I don't give a hoot how many times Barry points out that I never met him, given that I've pointed this out myself many times. She won't like it when I point out that her indignant claim in this thread that she *has* traveled and lived outside the US dates to (in her words, in a post here), the early 50s. In her mind, traveling and living in Europe with Daddy and Mommy that many years ago qualifies her to comment on what it's like to live outside the US as an ex-pat now. :-) Er, and Barry also does a lot of fantasizing about what's in other people's minds. He's never yet gotten it right in my case, as he doesn't here. Note that I never said anything to suggest what he fantasizes was in my mind; he invented it out of whole cloth. Note also that the dates are irrelevant in any case; Barry didn't specify *current* travel in his own post when he claimed I'd never left the U.S. or lived in another country. (His objection is what we call an afterthought, crafted in an effort to cover up a big goof. Barry does that a lot as well, because he makes so many howling errors. Since he obviously remembers my having talked about my trips, you can decide for yourself whether he was simply sloppily forgetful or lying when he said I'd never traveled abroad.) FWIW, I made a second trip to Europe some years later, making the crossings alone by ship, joining my family in Vienna for several weeks then traveling with them during the summer to another batch of countries, finally flying to Paris by myself for a solo stay there before catching the ship home. (Didn't mention this before because I didn't live in one place in Europe on that occasion.) One definitely has different types of experiences abroad depending on when one travels. In the case of my first trip, it was soon enough after the end of World War II that we could see many of the scars it had left, both physical and psychological. In Munich, we lived on the top floor of a four-story apartment building; the building itself was fairly elderly, but our floor was brand-new. The top story had been bombed out and then reconstructed. So we were reminded of the ravages of the war every time we went downstairs and saw the difference between our floor and those below. My second trip, we went to Berlin, then still divided, and as Americans were allowed to venture into East Berlin for a quick tour in the car. The contrast between East and West, between communism and capitalism, in the quality of the streets and buildings and stores and the clothing and expressions on the faces of the people--drab and depressed rather than colorful and lively--made quite an impression. And the view of the Wall from the western side of the city was unforgettable. Anyway, all this is a perspective one doesn't get from living in a glitzy Spanish tourist-trap town. Each to his own.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
Writing about these satsang conceits was inspired by several years of close observation of the zoological type satsangus teacheritis Rick Archer: ...you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Apparently Amma is a Neo-Advaitin, you could start there, Rick. Jivanmukti is not something to be attained after death, nor is it to be experienced or bestowed upon you in another world. It is a state of perfect awareness and equanimity, which can be experienced here and now in this world, while living in the body. - Amma
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Please elaborate on the dark side, which sounds reminiscent of Star Wars and Carlos Castenada. You mention these forces in your posts on BatGap and here. Why do you think its so important to mention these forces, since if practically speaking, and assuming they are present in daily life, most people are unaware of them and therefore can't do anything about them anyways? Most happy successful people I know don't give this a 2nd thought and go on with their daily routines. Its like the policy of don't ask, don't tell. Inquiring minds want to know (before the dark forces swallow them up whole). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod1...@... wrote: When I knew the TMO they liked to throw all stray thoughts into a single simple waste bin and say that it is all unstressing, and this is where perhaps they are overlooking the other 50% of the energetic world, which includes in our case as humans a conscious organization of dark parasitic energy beings.  Instead of throwing all stray thoughts into the garbage bin I will provide a few categories here.  1)Some stray thoughts are the creation of our own active mind and creativity.  2)Some stray thoughts are not our own, but the thoughts of other people physically near to us, or people who are connected to us through knowledge, or even by pure random chance. And likewise some stray thoughts are those of other awarnesses, like plants, animals, or any life-form.  3)Some stray thoughts are deliberately planted in our minds by parasitic shadow creatures without physical bodies, with the intention to direct us towards action or inaction which drain us of our most basic energy, that of attention, through wasteful senseless activities.  A careful study of the origins of these stray thoughts in meditation may lead over time to âseeingâ the form of the energetic world composed of lines of attention.  Transcending and seeing the world for what it is without veils, even if it be temporary, makes one an important target for dark shadowy forces that intelligently and consciously keep most of the world under their domain. This is an organization of beings, intelligent bottom feeders of sorts, which feed off of the broadly scattered and wasted energy of the attention of common people. They implant thoughts in all people to maintain these wasteful and misdirected activities.  The dark side is indispensable to the positive side and perfectly counterbalances it, and progress on the positive side cannot progress far without some understanding of one of the two most fundamental forces, the dark force, which I could describe in a series of equal terms such as;  1) an infinite force of sadness, loneliness, melancholy, which is irreducible, beyond explanation, and forms the basis of all other human emotion and motivation (all other human emotions, including love, are just temporary islands floating upon and empowered by this basic reality); 2) The destiny of an ever expanding universe, of universal dissolution; 3)Freedom; 4)Death. To understand this force one must find it within ones self, and grow to love and respect it as a component part of self. One may also become aware of the beings that inhabit this other realm, and their motives.  I wonât elaborate on the light side too much here, except to say that it is the desire for life; structure; beauty; unification, all that Maharishi stuff basically.  A meditator which transcends, and perhaps occasionally âseesâ the energetic world in relation to that pure transcendence is a prime target to these beings, and vulnerable if they are anything but a total saint, and I donât believe that there really is such a thing as a saint, outside of the human desire to create legends.  Dark parasitic forces stalk us and try to find entry based on our routines and habits. In my opinion there is no such thing as a good habit, such as meditation strictly twice a day at the same time each day. These habits squelch the development of fluid intuition of what to do and when, that a transcending mind naturally develops.  On the other hand, and this is very important, most people will use this dissolution of so called âgoodâ routines such as meditation, to forego it altogether, and that is perhaps worse, like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I meditate sort of on the average twice a day, and in various places, depending on calls from the âspiritâ. My meditations do have some amazing quality of calming down local noise and strife, beyond any logical explanation,... except for a certain insane explanation which would state that reality is basically dream-like, and where transcending touches the structuring property of that dream.  I see the structure of the TMO then as providing a sort of initial framework of security, such as nursery, but something which must also be transcended eventually for advancement. --- On Mon, 6/28/10, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Curtis's Birthday
Today is Curtis Mailloux's birthday. I don't think he's monitoring FFL, but if you want to email him here you go: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ondine [movie]
TurquoiseB wrote: Ondine is a very sweet, uplifting mythic fantasy romance, the last thing you might expect from either Colin Farrell or Neil Jordan. You'll be singing the Selkie's song long after seeing it. I watched it twice in two days, because I could not get that song out of my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80HzX8UGEKM http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235796/ This movie hasn't made it out of the currently in theaters tier of the VOD services so I haven't looked at it yet. Been busy anyway with a wide away of releases and catching up on the schlock films. First off though a head up that season 2 of Hung began on HBO Sunday and off to rip roaring start. If there are any other fans of Rescue Me on FX it begins it's final season tonight. I know a lot of folks are not fans of Dennis Leary but I have to hand it to him to play a role that many actors would not touch. The series plays also like Off Broadway with a lot of high art drama we usually don't get to see even on HBO or Showtime. And of course we are into the third season of True Blood now. In the schlock circuit I have a half hour to finish on Wolf Moon (avail Netflix watch instantly) which is going to get a didn't like it from me rating. I'm going to have to research how this film got made. Good cast, excellent cinematography but a movie in need of a good writer and editor especially the latter. It may well be some rich kid's project where daddy and mommy bought him all the right stuff in hopes he would give up on his silly dream of being a film director. Believe it or not I once heard a commentary where the director admitted that was exactly what happened. Even more schlockly looking and releasing next week on DVD is Eyeborg. This films stars Danny Trejo and sounds interesting even if not well done. It's about tiny bots that spy on people and the end of privacy. Social commentary films are always my cup of tea. The big studio version of The Crazies releases on DVD and BD today. It is at the local Redbox kiosks and though I didn't rush right out and grab one nor reserve it I'll check on my way back from my morning walk. I saw the film in theaters and felt it lacked edge so I want to see from the extras what went wrong. It lead me to buy the original Romero film on Bluray which was well worth it. The original inspired many films including the big budget Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
Duveyoung: I too have been disappointed in how others glom onto Advaita concepts in the manners listed below. It sucks. So, Amma, Poonja, Nisargadatta, and Balsekar, suck. Read more: 'Back to the Truth: 5000 years of Advaita' by Dennis Waite O Books, 2007
[FairfieldLife] Re: No sex in space? Yeah, right.
I'm a member of the mile high club, but geeze, an airplane's bathroom is not your ideal chamber of delight. How much less so in space with six type A geniuses at one's elbows? Compared to a private bed, propinquity sex in space has to be but a furtive affair at best and a joke relative to any sexuality based on a relationship with another's mind instead of their being temporarily in a unique love nest. Hey, Babe, you're here, I'm here, can I squirt yer guts on our ten minute break? -- seems tawdry. But if they send up pairs that are already bonded or exploring having a lifelong relationship, I'm all for sex in space. Sex is for grownups not high-ups, but in space, given the costs, I'd say it'll be awhile before a lengthy tantric love session is recreationally allowed above 100 miles. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Once again, the Russians have beaten the Americans not only in the space race, but in the being-able-to-deal-with-sexuality-intelligently race. It has been pretty common knowledge since the earliest Russian space stations that the Cosmonauts got naughty. And when you think about it, who is *not* going to give it a try, given the challenge? Which is more of an achievement, after all -- being the 40th or 50th human in space, or being the 1st two to try Zero-G sex? This guy sounds like either the Edg Duveyoung or JohnR of space (The thought of having sex would never occur to me...that would make me less of a man) or the Bill Clinton of space (I did not have sex with that alien...I just offered her a puff on my cigar). At least his name is appropriate...what a Poindexter. :-) Sex Banned Aboard International Space Station: NASA Commander You can forget joining the 200-mile high club. NASA commander Alan Poindexter told a reporter who asked about the consequences if astronauts boldly went where probably no others have been http://www.france24.com/en/20100628-no-sex-please-were-astronauts-nasa-\ commander that sexual intercourse is not permitted aboard the International Space Station. We are professionals, Poindexter said. We treat each other with respect and we have a great working relationship. Personal relationships are not [...] an issue, he explained. We don't have them and we won't. The question about sexual relations in space came after an April mission http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/women-in-space-new-record_n_52\ 3414.html that put a record four women in orbit--the most women in space ever. Three women aboard the Discovery joined another women and four men aboard the International Space Station.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No sex in space? Yeah, right.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I'm a member of the mile high club, but geeze, an airplane's bathroom is not your ideal chamber of delight. How much less so in space with six type A geniuses at one's elbows? Compared to a private bed, propinquity sex in space has to be but a furtive affair at best and a joke relative to any sexuality based on a relationship with another's mind instead of their being temporarily in a unique love nest. Hey, Babe, you're here, I'm here, can I squirt yer guts on our ten minute break? -- seems tawdry. Could be that the tawdry is projected by you, Edg, and not necessarily a part of the actual situation. For example, I'm a member of the mile high club, too, but we did it in the main cabin, surrounded by other passengers (most of whom were admittedly asleep). We wound up having a three-seat row for the two of us, no fixed dividers between the seats, and they'd passed out blankets to everyone, so we were under the blankets. And the kicker? This was on a charter flight to Europe, and the woman (ten years older than me, so you don't have to get your predator dander up) and I were on our way to our respective six- month TM sidhi courses. Everyone on the plane was on the way there. We talked about it years later, and both agreed that it had been one of the best sexual exper- iences of our lives. We knew each other well, had been there done that with the relationship thing but remained good friends, and both were on our ways to six months of enforced celibacy, the women in one town, the men in another. It was just the obvious thing to do, it was fun, and it hurt no one. The lady and I remained close for many years after that, though we were never lovers again. So tell us, Mr. Arbiter Of Things Tantrically Sattvic, was that tawdry? But if they send up pairs that are already bonded or exploring having a lifelong relationship, I'm all for sex in space. Sex is for grownups not high-ups, but in space, given the costs, I'd say it'll be awhile before a lengthy tantric love session is recreation- ally allowed above 100 miles. The scuttlebutt around the Santa Fe Institute, a thinktank where several of my friends worked after earlier careers at NASA, was that the Russians had actually ordered their Cosmonauts to have sex, because they wanted to study it. That's something that can never be validated except by hearsay, if some of the scientists and/or one of the Cosmonauts comes out with a tell all book, but I think it's interesting. I'm really not knocking your ideal of Deep, Gazing-Into-Your-Partner's-Eyes Tantric Groove Love, Edg, just your clinging to it as The Only Meaningful Expression Of Sex Possible because that's the only way it was possible for you. You missed out on a lot of fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
Edg, what part of Taiwan were you in? I go to Taipei 2 or 3 times a year and I've never seen the police presence you mention. The same goes for Vietnam and China where again, I visit several times a year. It was also true of Thailand until the recent major Red shirt/Blue Shirt disturbances. Such a sad time for that wonderful country. You have the much beloved King who is about to die, his heir, a fellow who is most often described as a lazy playboy' who no one appears to respect, and now this internal conflict. Everyone hopes this doesn't turn into a civil war but the signs are certainly not good. Jakarta Indonesia is a well known mess and not a nice place at all to visit. Never has been from what I've heard. I remember well the shock I experienced on my first visit to China 8 years ago. I expected to see a very regimented Communist society with military everywhere. Instead I saw what appeared to be out of control wild west capitalism and very little police or military presence. Not that they weren't there at all, but I see more cops on an average day in LA than I ever saw in China, or for that matter, any of my visits to Taiwan. Point is, traveling frequently is the only way to really get beyond the US media formed impression of life outside the USA. Most Americans have only the vaguest idea of anything happening in other parts of the world. It's all over there to most people. I spent two weeks in Sitges Spain, where Barry now lives, back in 2003. I could easily adapt to the Catalonian lifestyle of this area of the Spanish coast. Lovely people, great food, fantastic arts scene. I like where I am now on the CA coast very much. But, if the choice was Cleveland or Sitges I'd make that switch in a heartbeat! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Been around the world. Seventeen countries. A total of six months in Asia via three trips. Year in Europe. Lived for a year or more in California, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, New York, Georgia, Florida and traveled in 40 states of America. and I was watching my pennies the whole time, so it's not like I was high-hatting it as an ugly American abroad or living the posh life here. Walked and walked and walked the local neighborhoods and markets everywhere. Learned a couple hundred words in each of many languages, lived in folks' homes, ate their food, worshiped with them in Buddhist temples and in the churches of Europe, and I've closed my eyes to meditate in public in diners and bus stations and on park benches and even in a tent next to a lake a mile from Maharishi in Seelisberg while surrounded by a herd of cows who seemed to like what I was, um, not-doing. I don't have an especial tee shirt for all the above, but one thing I did get out of it was that America is THE PLACE for personal freedoms of the sort that is missing in virtually every country. While in Spain, I authored and published a small book and I had to get permission (forms filled out and stamps purchased and samples given to some decider from the government) to authorize my printer to do the job for me. I dared not criticize Spain, see? In Taiwan, I saw the cops beating up the vendors and soldiers on guard every mile of every major highway. In Indonesia I traveled along a road for miles and miles with hundreds of thousands of people living on the roadsides in huts next to a canal that was both toilet and drinking water. I saw families living their whole lives on a patch of sidewalk where they owned about six parking spots and would watch your car for you while you parked it there -- for fifteen cents a day. There's dirt roads in downtown Jakarta. I saw grown men hunched over fencing wires all in a heap -- pounding the wires straight so that they could be resold. I saw ten year old girls selling flowers in the middle of traffic. Barbershops are places where you get a hand job in Asia, and every wife is expected to accept this. And on and on I can list the tragedies and twisted allowances of each culture that are seen, yes, in America too. It's a wash -- they've got their shit and we've got ours. We've got red-necks and they've got fundamentalists. We've got every sort of preacher on any stump, and they've got state religions, political philosophies backed up by guns, warlords and kings and corrupt to the core businesspersons. No stone can be thrown by anyone at any country. To me, being an American has been a life long intent of dwelling upon and recognizing the deeper dynamics of humanity, the common ground we share with virtually anyone anywhere, and my profit is that I feel like a true world citizen and only see my fellow citizens no matter the language, beliefs or local mores. I have loved so many with whom I only had but a few words of their language in which to express my feelings. After all my trips, coming home
[FairfieldLife] Re: No sex in space? Yeah, right.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I'm a member of the mile high club, but geeze, an airplane's bathroom is not your ideal chamber of delight. How much less so in space with six type A geniuses at one's elbows? Compared to a private bed, propinquity sex in space has to be but a furtive affair at best and a joke relative to any sexuality based on a relationship with another's mind instead of their being temporarily in a unique love nest. Hey, Babe, you're here, I'm here, can I squirt yer guts on our ten minute break? -- seems tawdry. Could be that the tawdry is projected by you, Edg, and not necessarily a part of the actual situation. For example, I'm a member of the mile high club, too, but we did it in the main cabin, surrounded by other passengers (most of whom were admittedly asleep). We wound up having a three-seat row for the two of us, no fixed dividers between the seats, and they'd passed out blankets to everyone, so we were under the blankets. And the kicker? This was on a charter flight to Europe, and the woman (ten years older than me, so you don't have to get your predator dander up) and I were on our way to our respective six- month TM sidhi courses. Everyone on the plane was on the way there. We talked about it years later, and both agreed that it had been one of the best sexual exper- iences of our lives. We knew each other well, had been there done that with the relationship thing but remained good friends, and both were on our ways to six months of enforced celibacy, the women in one town, the men in another. It was just the obvious thing to do, it was fun, and it hurt no one. The lady and I remained close for many years after that, though we were never lovers again. So tell us, Mr. Arbiter Of Things Tantrically Sattvic, was that tawdry? Oh, yeah, another thing about Barry--he's prone to responding to posts without having actually read more than a keyword or two, believing his vastly superior intelligence combined with his highly developed psychic powers enable him to comprehend several entire paragraphs. In this case the keywords he spotted in Edg's post were mile-high club and tawdry. Aha, he thought, an opportunity for a putdown! He missed everything else, as usual, and expended considerable effort composing what ended up being a total non sequitur. As usual.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:00 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. Thanks, I added him to the list. You're still on that list, BTW, with a sort of back burner status. Let me know if you ever want to move to the front burner.
[FairfieldLife] G20 Canada photos June 2010
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/G20/Picture%20074.html There are some really great photos in this bunch during the G20 in Canada!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
No. Lama is only a philosophical Advaitin; far from being a Neo-Advaitin defined and described in the website. Let me explain: among the many Rinpoches one can find, Lama Zopa Rinpoche is in a certain type of demographic group which seamlessly merges a. emptiness teachings (such as his DVD ATomic Bomb Against Ignorance) - which can be termed a Wisdom teaching, with b. Karma busting techniques - such as the chanting of the Sanghata Sutra Dharma; which I listen to every day, and c. Other types of karma busting or material enhancement techniques such as those involved with prayers to the Medicine Master Buddha, and Green Tara. Devotion to the Green Tara covers virtually every possible countermeasure against both Spiritual and material faults, including the potential to eradicate diseases, poverty, fix oil spills, etc. ... Thus, only in philosophical theory does Lama Zopa separate out the Wisdom teachings from a whole, complete spectrum of mantras designed to eradicate our shortcomings in the material world. ... This approach is very distinct from the Neo-Advaitins, who only go around saying Being, Being, Being ... I recommend that you actually get into Lama Zopa's practices. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: yifuxero: Try Buddhism. I recommend Lama Zopa... You seem to be getting confused - Lama Zopa is teaching Neo-Advaita! Everyone knows that Zopa believes that we are all 'Buddhas' from birth. According to Mahayana Buddhism, we all possess the Buddha Nature. You are already enlightened - all you have to do is Awaken! He then revealed the teachings of the Four Noble Truthsthat show the path to liberation, the Paramitayana paththat shows the path to full enlightenment, and the tantric path which brings enlightenment very quicklyeven in one lifetime... - Lama Zopa http://tinyurl.com/2dg2srk
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
No. You're confusing the issues. Advaita is a state, if one wants to use the word state; at least, lt's a Realization. Neo-Advaita is a projection into the world, a teaching strategy, filled with fallacies, idiosynchronies, and urban Myths; based on various precedents such as Papaji, all designed to artificially elevate one's position as a grand Teacher while demeaning the student. Amma has none of the attributes listed in the website. Neo-Advaita is a collection of projections of teaching methods and statements, coupled with various demeanors. Typical example: ... Student: I was diagnosed with cancer and am going to die in one month. Neo-Advaitin teacher: So,.this is your oryyy. ... The word story has to be long and drawn out, as if one could fit a whole personal history in the space between s and y from birth to death. But the Neo-Advaitic teacher supposedly has no Story.(???) ... Karumamayi never demeans people in such a way. She's Self-Realized and therefore an Advaitin, but not a Neo or Pseudo Advaitin. ... AGain, check out the website. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Writing about these satsang conceits was inspired by several years of close observation of the zoological type satsangus teacheritis Rick Archer: ...you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Apparently Amma is a Neo-Advaitin, you could start there, Rick. Jivanmukti is not something to be attained after death, nor is it to be experienced or bestowed upon you in another world. It is a state of perfect awareness and equanimity, which can be experienced here and now in this world, while living in the body. - Amma
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
To begin with, (just my take) in ignorance of the Self, people are concerned with projections onto the blank screen of Being without knowledge (Gnosis) of Being. In Neo-Advaita, they have a blank screen but the projections (story) are supposedly reduced to non-importance or worse yet, non-existence and denial. But (imo), this is only a transitional zone in which people may (if they don't fall into the last snare of Maya - which is that Nothingness is the only reality worth considering); that their blank HOLODECK (the blank arena in Star Trek where programs project an artificial reality into the room) can be repopulated with various images; thus: Ramakrishna - continues with his devotion to Kali Ramana Maharshi - continues with his devotion to Arunachala Shiva ... These types of devotional projections or stories would be disallowed in Neo-Advaita. ... But the mistaken notion that one cannot have a story is a Neo-Advaitic Urban Myth, probably started by HWL Poonja. ... As long as people are embodied, they have stories. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No sex in space? Yeah, right.
Duveyoung wrote: I'm a member of the mile high club, but geeze, an airplane's bathroom is not your ideal chamber of delight. How much less so in space with six type A geniuses at one's elbows? Then you don't know type A geniuses who are more prone to sexual exploration because they love to throw the rules out the window. And I do know some TM folks who were into swinging clubs (and I'm not talking about baseball bats). Compared to a private bed, propinquity sex in space has to be but a furtive affair at best and a joke relative to any sexuality based on a relationship with another's mind instead of their being temporarily in a unique love nest. Hey, Babe, you're here, I'm here, can I squirt yer guts on our ten minute break? -- seems tawdry. But if they send up pairs that are already bonded or exploring having a lifelong relationship, I'm all for sex in space. Sex is for grownups not high-ups, but in space, given the costs, I'd say it'll be awhile before a lengthy tantric love session is recreationally allowed above 100 miles. Though tantra isn't about sex there are some techniques involving it (and what the rubes want to learn not the rest of the stuff). I seem to recall ABC had a summer series last year that was sort of Desperate Housewives in space and about these very issues about sex in space.
[FairfieldLife] Quake in San Francisco
Not to worry, we're still alive and well in the city by the bay. A jolt woke me up early this morning. But it was not THE big one. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BAH41E664Q.DTL
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one starting TM or Dome-ing? Rewrite the sales brochure.
This was in Taiwan in 1995ish. Saw cops drag a vendor's wheeled cart out of a vendor's informal market in an alley -- presumably because the vendor hadn't paid some bribe to be there. They violently threw the cart such that all the food stuffs etc. we strewn into the middle of a high traffic street and the vendor flung HARD on his ass being yelled at by the cops to leave. No arrest -- just a normal bonking. The soldiers were posted every mile on the major end-to-end-of-Taiwan highway that could be used for a landing by an airplane full of Red Army invaders. Any official buidling had soldiers posted outside. Don't know if any of this still is happening there. In Indonesia, I had to have an Army General's approval to negotiate with a factory owner to produce a productand that was the norm there. Last time I was in Spain, I had more than one encounter with what can only be called rape entitlement -- meaning, if a woman's not escorted she can be hit on with any arbitrary amount of urgency, and even if she's attended, they'll hit on her. I've never seen such strutting roosters enflamed with empowerment as I saw in Spainthough a few guys in Italy tried hard enough to match it. Barry seems well placed actually, heh, irony, eh? I'll take Cleveland over Spain for raising a family. Not that everywhere doesn't have the most precious souls that melt your heart instantly, but even then I tarry. I made friends with a Iranian family once. Man they had a good vibe. Our kids played with their kids, so they invited us over for dinner and chat -- and I ended up having to fend them off from trying to get us to smoke opium and wife-swap -- ya just never know. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Edg, what part of Taiwan were you in? I go to Taipei 2 or 3 times a year and I've never seen the police presence you mention. The same goes for Vietnam and China where again, I visit several times a year. It was also true of Thailand until the recent major Red shirt/Blue Shirt disturbances. Such a sad time for that wonderful country. You have the much beloved King who is about to die, his heir, a fellow who is most often described as a lazy playboy' who no one appears to respect, and now this internal conflict. Everyone hopes this doesn't turn into a civil war but the signs are certainly not good. Jakarta Indonesia is a well known mess and not a nice place at all to visit. Never has been from what I've heard. I remember well the shock I experienced on my first visit to China 8 years ago. I expected to see a very regimented Communist society with military everywhere. Instead I saw what appeared to be out of control wild west capitalism and very little police or military presence. Not that they weren't there at all, but I see more cops on an average day in LA than I ever saw in China, or for that matter, any of my visits to Taiwan. Point is, traveling frequently is the only way to really get beyond the US media formed impression of life outside the USA. Most Americans have only the vaguest idea of anything happening in other parts of the world. It's all over there to most people. I spent two weeks in Sitges Spain, where Barry now lives, back in 2003. I could easily adapt to the Catalonian lifestyle of this area of the Spanish coast. Lovely people, great food, fantastic arts scene. I like where I am now on the CA coast very much. But, if the choice was Cleveland or Sitges I'd make that switch in a heartbeat! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Been around the world. Seventeen countries. A total of six months in Asia via three trips. Year in Europe. Lived for a year or more in California, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, New York, Georgia, Florida and traveled in 40 states of America. and I was watching my pennies the whole time, so it's not like I was high-hatting it as an ugly American abroad or living the posh life here. Walked and walked and walked the local neighborhoods and markets everywhere. Learned a couple hundred words in each of many languages, lived in folks' homes, ate their food, worshiped with them in Buddhist temples and in the churches of Europe, and I've closed my eyes to meditate in public in diners and bus stations and on park benches and even in a tent next to a lake a mile from Maharishi in Seelisberg while surrounded by a herd of cows who seemed to like what I was, um, not-doing. I don't have an especial tee shirt for all the above, but one thing I did get out of it was that America is THE PLACE for personal freedoms of the sort that is missing in virtually every country. While in Spain, I authored and published a small book and I had to get permission (forms filled out and stamps purchased and samples given to some decider from the government) to authorize my printer to do the
[FairfieldLife] a poem post
http://hellopoetry.com/poem/i-was-stillness-surrounded-by-thunder/
[FairfieldLife] Naomi Klein on the G20 Summit
From the Globe and Mail: Sticking the public with the bill for the bankers’ crisis My city feels like a crime scene and the criminals are all melting into the night, fleeing the scene. No, I’m not talking about the kids in black who smashed windows and burned cop cars on Saturday. I’m talking about the heads of state who, on Sunday night, smashed social safety nets and burned good jobs in the middle of a recession. Faced with the effects of a crisis created by the world’s wealthiest and most privileged strata, they decided to stick the poorest and most vulnerable people in their countries with the bill. More here: *http://tinyurl.com/2esuuu6 * To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Interesting report on the Icelandic financial crisis
Very well done and explains their situation well and why it could (or is) happening here. Let the banksters eat cake (or piles of worthless dollars). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ziWPPMdlqs
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. In other words chaos. The contribution of Rick Archer to this modern age.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Quake in San Francisco
John wrote: Not to worry, we're still alive and well in the city by the bay. A jolt woke me up early this morning. But it was not THE big one. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BAH41E664Q.DTL For some reason I have a feeling the big one isn't going to happen for another 30 years. Of course we'll still have little jolts and maybe some 5.x but nothing in comparison with Loma Prieta nor the 1906 quake. The one they are most worried about is the Hayward fault.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quake in San Francisco
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Not to worry, we're still alive and well in the city by the bay. A jolt woke me up early this morning. But it was not THE big one. Relax, it will come :-) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BAH41E664Q.DTL
[FairfieldLife] 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3
Dear Friends, My Oprah audition video is up to 800 votes now. Voting ends July 3. I'm leaving town today for the rest of the week, so this is the last reminder to vote that I'll send out. Please take a few seconds to click on the following link and vote. Surprise me with 1,000+ votes when I return! http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_detailsresponse_i d=6818promo_id=1 http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_detailsresponse_id =6818promo_id=1 Here's a short version of the above link, in case that one is broken in your email: http://tinyurl.com/35hfeyt Thanks, Rick
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. In other words chaos. The contribution of Rick Archer to this modern age. I'm not a Waking Down person, but I have a lot of respect for friends and acquaintances who are. Since you sound like you have a lot of familiarity with that group, Nabby, please tell us why you would characterize them as chaotic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Dear Friends, My Oprah audition video is up to 800 votes now. Voting ends July 3. I'm leaving town today for the rest of the week, so this is the last reminder to vote that I'll send out. Please take a few seconds to click on the following link and vote. Surprise me with 1,000+ votes when I return! Thanks, Rick What is this, Rick want's to take the silly nonsense at batgap nationwide ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Klein on the G20 Summit
Sticking the public with the bill for the bankers' crisis
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
In other words chaos. Rick Archer: please tell us why you would characterize them as chaotic. Because they are Neo-Advaitans like Amma, Poonja, Nisargadatta, and Balsekar?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Yifu Xero, this is good stuff. If you have the time and the inclination, I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to some of my recent interviews on htt://batgap.com - perhaps Ted Strauss, James Swartz, and James Braha - particularly the latter two - and see if you can offer me any advice in how do deal with this neo-Advaita issue. Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. In other words chaos. The contribution of Rick Archer to this modern age. I'm not a Waking Down person, but I have a lot of respect for friends and acquaintances who are. Since you sound like you have a lot of familiarity with that group, Nabby, please tell us why you would characterize them as chaotic. Simly closely read the post above and you'll see why it is chaotic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quake in San Francisco
Nice thought to sleep with. During the Loma Prieta quake, I was in Seattle watching the baseball game when it was rudely interrupted by the quake. My father, who was alive then, said that the whole house shook for about a minute. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: John wrote: Not to worry, we're still alive and well in the city by the bay. A jolt woke me up early this morning. But it was not THE big one. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BAH41E664Q.DTL For some reason I have a feeling the big one isn't going to happen for another 30 years. Of course we'll still have little jolts and maybe some 5.x but nothing in comparison with Loma Prieta nor the 1906 quake. The one they are most worried about is the Hayward fault.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quake in San Francisco
Nabs, Thanks for the comforting words. We'll let you know if the ETs have arrived here during the earthquake. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Not to worry, we're still alive and well in the city by the bay. A jolt woke me up early this morning. But it was not THE big one. Relax, it will come :-) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BAH41E664Q.DTL
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. In other words chaos. The contribution of Rick Archer to this modern age. I'm not a Waking Down person, but I have a lot of respect for friends and acquaintances who are. Since you sound like you have a lot of familiarity with that group, Nabby, please tell us why you would characterize them as chaotic. Simly closely read the post above and you'll see why it is chaotic. Sorry. I don't get it. Perhaps if you define simly closely.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Dear Friends, My Oprah audition video is up to 800 votes now. Voting ends July 3. I'm leaving town today for the rest of the week, so this is the last reminder to vote that I'll send out. Please take a few seconds to click on the following link and vote. Surprise me with 1,000+ votes when I return! Thanks, Rick What is this, Rick want's to take the silly nonsense at batgap nationwide ? PMS troubles Nabby? Not long ago you were complimenting my interviewing skills and recommending that Barry watch one of the shows.
[FairfieldLife] Sorry. One More.
A friend reminded me to remind everyone that it's possible to vote daily (or ever several times a day) until July 3. http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_detailsresponse_i d=6818promo_id=1 http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_detailsresponse_id =6818promo_id=1 Here's a short version of the above link, in case that one is broken in your email: http://tinyurl.com/35hfeyt Thanks, Rick
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis Since BATGAP has a strong Waking Down presence, and you're interested in dealing with neo-advaita, you might consider interviewing Krishna Gauci, who was a teacher in the Papaji lineage before getting involved with Waking Down, having his Waking Down brand Second Birth Awakening, and ultimately becoming a Waking Down teacher. In other words chaos. The contribution of Rick Archer to this modern age. I'm not a Waking Down person, but I have a lot of respect for friends and acquaintances who are. Since you sound like you have a lot of familiarity with that group, Nabby, please tell us why you would characterize them as chaotic. Simly closely read the post above and you'll see why it is chaotic. Sorry. I don't get it. Perhaps if you define simly closely. Add a p, it's as simple a that for most people. Rick, do you really want to be on Ophrah with this batgap nonsense ? Ofcourse you do since you'r a fool.
[FairfieldLife] OT: how to set default.mime parts on_demand in thunderbird?
In windows. -- If wishes were fishes, I would be tuna in a can my good luck left and ran it was stolen by the man stick it to the man lock him in a van crash it in the sand luck will return to my command a pebble in my hand
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Neo-Advaita disease - Satsangus teacheritis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Sorry. I don't get it. Perhaps if you define simly closely. Add a p; it's as simple as that for most people, but obviously not for you. Do you really want to be on Ophrah with this batgap nonsense ? Your foolishess knows no bounds.
[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: how to set default.mime parts on_demand in thunderbird?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: In windows. Whatever the heck that is, it sounds like something that would be done in: Tools | Options | Advanced | Config Editor
[FairfieldLife] Krishna Gauci
Definitely a smart fellow...I like him already. From his website, http://www.krishnasatsang.com (I believe, or something like that). Here's the quote: The third living current is my relationship to the Buddhist Tradition. While I am by no stretch a master of Buddhism, I have been engaged in Buddhist meditation, mantra and devotional practices for the past 23 years. Using the essence of my own experience, the richness of this tradition is something that affects all that I do with people. Practicing Meditation, understanding emptiness and the cultivation of compassion is something that is useful for anyone in spiritual life
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Krishna Gauci: This world is a horror show
from http://www.krishnasatsang.com This world is a horror show, a nightmare. If our entire sense of identity comes solely from identification with our body and personality, fully showing up for this life would drive us insane. Those who appear to be sane and live in this world without realizing emptiness are living to some degree in a disassociated state, they are not altogether in their bodies or hearts. Being not-quite-here is totally understandable because it would be incredibly painful if you thought you were just a body/mind personality. It's painful enough for those who are awakened. In fact the deeper our experience of being Free Consciousness, the deeper is the potential for embracing this life of limits. Otherwise we don't have the room in ourselves to hold our total experience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna Gauci
You might enjoy this clip of him doing a Buddhist chant at a satsang in FF some years ago: http://alex.natel.net/misc/krishna_chanting.m4v --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: Definitely a smart fellow...I like him already. From his website, http://www.krishnasatsang.com (I believe, or something like that). Here's the quote: The third living current is my relationship to the Buddhist Tradition. While I am by no stretch a master of Buddhism, I have been engaged in Buddhist meditation, mantra and devotional practices for the past 23 years. Using the essence of my own experience, the richness of this tradition is something that affects all that I do with people. Practicing Meditation, understanding emptiness and the cultivation of compassion is something that is useful for anyone in spiritual life
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna Gauci: This world is a horror show
Another 'satsang' type. A Neo-Advaitin, just like Amma, Nisargadatta, Balsekar, and the Awake Downers. Throw in a little Zopa and some Pema Chodron. yifuxero: from http://www.krishnasatsang.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna Gauci
thx, I'll have to wait until the Weekend, can't get it on this computer. The cybernet place is right near the Horton Plaza theater. Let's seewhat's out this weekend? Another Twilight, 3-rd and last I suppose. Could involve an allience between the good vampires and the werewolves, against the rampaging bad vampires. That's my guess, along with the usual love triangle: Lautner werewolf vs Pattison vamp vying for the Babe's affections. Has very nice scenes of wherever it's filmed: Washington, possibly Vancouver also. ... INCEPTION with Leonardo DiCaprio should be coming out soon. Looks like a Philip Dick theme: Man enters into the dream world in order to change the outcome of physical reality. Previews have mind-blowing cinematography. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: You might enjoy this clip of him doing a Buddhist chant at a satsang in FF some years ago: http://alex.natel.net/misc/krishna_chanting.m4v --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: Definitely a smart fellow...I like him already. From his website, http://www.krishnasatsang.com (I believe, or something like that). Here's the quote: The third living current is my relationship to the Buddhist Tradition. While I am by no stretch a master of Buddhism, I have been engaged in Buddhist meditation, mantra and devotional practices for the past 23 years. Using the essence of my own experience, the richness of this tradition is something that affects all that I do with people. Practicing Meditation, understanding emptiness and the cultivation of compassion is something that is useful for anyone in spiritual life
Re: [FairfieldLife] OT: how to set default.mime parts on_demand in thunderbird?
It's just a ride wrote: In windows. Google is your friend: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_(Thunderbird) I'm assuming you want to change the default email from HTML to plain text?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna Gauci
And we get to see if M. Night can make a good movie since we've been waiting for one from him since The Sixth Sense: http://www.thelastairbendermovie.com/ yifuxero wrote: thx, I'll have to wait until the Weekend, can't get it on this computer. The cybernet place is right near the Horton Plaza theater. Let's seewhat's out this weekend? Another Twilight, 3-rd and last I suppose. Could involve an allience between the good vampires and the werewolves, against the rampaging bad vampires. That's my guess, along with the usual love triangle: Lautner werewolf vs Pattison vamp vying for the Babe's affections. Has very nice scenes of wherever it's filmed: Washington, possibly Vancouver also. ... INCEPTION with Leonardo DiCaprio should be coming out soon. Looks like a Philip Dick theme: Man enters into the dream world in order to change the outcome of physical reality. Previews have mind-blowing cinematography. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: You might enjoy this clip of him doing a Buddhist chant at a satsang in FF some years ago: http://alex.natel.net/misc/krishna_chanting.m4v --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: Definitely a smart fellow...I like him already. From his website, http://www.krishnasatsang.com (I believe, or something like that). Here's the quote: The third living current is my relationship to the Buddhist Tradition. While I am by no stretch a master of Buddhism, I have been engaged in Buddhist meditation, mantra and devotional practices for the past 23 years. Using the essence of my own experience, the richness of this tradition is something that affects all that I do with people. Practicing Meditation, understanding emptiness and the cultivation of compassion is something that is useful for anyone in spiritual life
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishna Gauci: This world is a horror show
thx, Pema Chodron actually made the network news last Sunday CBS or NBC - I forgot which. This type of how to manage your emotions Buddhism doesn't appeal to me. Her message seems to be: if you have a negative emotion, embrace it somehow. Those New-Age types of approaches never worked for me but some people are into it. I'm mainly into (besides regular mediation); karma busting techniques I've learned from Lama Zopa. Willytex, I object to your lumping all of the various people together in the same demographic group with Lama Zopa. As stated before, he offers a whole spectrum of Buddhist chants encompassing the pure Wisdom approach to emptiness; along with mantras designed to offset suffering due to every conceivable material cause. Judging by his books, Facebook and Twitter pages, he spends a lot of time personally answering questions put to him by almost anybody. A typical inquiry might come (for example) from somebody stuck in a prison, asking how to protect himself. Being very skillful in expedient means, naturally, the Lama will prescribe a mantric remedy appropriate to that particular person's problem. ... Most of the Neo-Advaitins otoh, simply say Being for everything. That goes for Chopra. ... Willytex, you simply are not listening. I have two of Karunamayi's audios: Gayatri and Mahamritunjaya mantras. Generally speaking, the Neo-Advaitins are NOT into mantras and the chanting thereof. ... Therefore, you're placement of Karunamayi into the same basket of Neo-Advaitic characters shows evidence of some innate disturbance in your mind; the nature of which escapes me at the moment, as to the cause. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Another 'satsang' type. A Neo-Advaitin, just like Amma, Nisargadatta, Balsekar, and the Awake Downers. Throw in a little Zopa and some Pema Chodron. yifuxero: from http://www.krishnasatsang.com
[FairfieldLife] Family of Secrets
Great expose of the Bush family - connections to JKF, Nixon, and lots more: http://blip.tv/file/3783571 Author Russ Baker, gives a talk on his book, ; Family of Secrets, an in depth examination of the Bush dynasty and America's invisible government, at Borders Books in San Francisco, June 15, 2010.
[FairfieldLife] Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Very good documentary on the Obama birth question http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=a+question+of+eligibilityaq=5
[FairfieldLife] Re: a poem post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jwtrowbridge johnwtrowbri...@... wrote: http://hellopoetry.com/poem/i-was-stillness-surrounded-by-thunder/ Very nice. I've heard thunder, I've heard the flapping of the wings of the Eagle. Thank's for posting this ! How many have seen the Eagle ? - Maharishi, Germany, 1982
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quake in San Francisco
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Nabs, Thanks for the comforting words. We'll let you know if the ETs have arrived here during the earthquake. They are there and protecting you now, in many ways, as we speak. But stopping an earthquake is not, as far as I know, one of their priorities.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 800 Votes Counting. Let's break 1,000! Voting ends July 3 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Friends, My Oprah audition video is up to 800 votes now. Voting ends July 3. I'm leaving town today for the rest of the week, so this is the last reminder to vote that I'll send out. Please take a few seconds to click on the following link and vote. Surprise me with 1,000+ votes when I return! Thanks, Rick What is this, Rick want's to take the silly nonsense at batgap nationwide ? PMS troubles Nabby? Not long ago you were complimenting my interviewing skills and recommending that Barry watch one of the shows. This interview has substance, I would recommend it to anyone, even to the Barry-charachter. Would you say the rest are that good? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKRRnGJPx0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CyxYurZOeINR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB-ZAIj0NZofeature=related
