Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 Boatlift
Also thank you Judy...I hadn't seen this or the History docu...very moving and personal. --- On Sun, 9/11/11, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 Boatlift To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 8:45 PM Thanks for posting this, Judy. Truly, a spectacular rescue. We have heard so many stories of 9/11 heroism over the years and each one brings a tear, but I have never heard of Boatlift. I wonder if whoever ordered the bridges and tunnels closed weighed the consequences of trapping 500,000 people in lower Manhattan without an evacuation plan. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If you don't watch another minute of the 10th anniversary coverage, you gotta watch this. It's a beautifully done 12-minute documentary about the volunteer evacuation of lower Manhattan by boat--ferries, tugboats, pleasure craft, fishing boats, Coast Guard cutters,just about anything that floated. More than 500,000 people in nine hours, 13 times as many as at Dunkirk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lsxFcDrjo This has a bit of the background: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eddie-rosenstein/tom-hanks-narrates-boatlift_b_956529.html http://tinyurl.com/3paunzu It's a feel-good story in the best sense of the term.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: The Guard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Just watched it -- you should have warned me not to eat our traditional moon cake today watching this film... [:D] My bad. You should not eat or drink anything while watching The Guard that you do not want spewed all over the room as you get caught in an unexpected spasm of laughter. I'm Irish. Racism is part of my culture.lol A Drop Of The Hard Stuff' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6k1lml4AvE seen that? Vedy British humor. In Bruges http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780536/ One of my all-time faves, easily on my Top Ten list, one of the gold standard films in terms of what constitutes a good script, acting, and direction. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As often happens for me with small treasure movies, I found my way to this one by following an obscure lead. I've been an unabashed fan of Brendan Gleeson since Six Shooter and In Bruges, and put this film on my Look For list some time ago after following a link on the IMDB. All I knew about it was that Brendan Gleeson was in it, and that was enough. It remained enough for about the first ten minutes of the movie, and then I had a suspicion, occasioned by the quality of the writing. I put the movie on pause and looked it up on the IMDB, suspecting it might have been by Martin McDonagh, writer-director of In Bruges. Close. It's written and directed by his brother, John Michael McDonagh. Talent clearly runs in the family. This is a really funny movie, in the way that only Irish films can be funny. That is, black humor that is occasionally so dark that you are almost ashamed to be laughing at it, but you just can't help yourself. Also, the humor is quirky, and plays with conventions. For example, this is essentially a buddy cop movie, with Gleeson playing back-country Irish cop Gerry Boyle, and Don Cheadle playing uptight American FBI agent Wendell Everett. Shown photos of the drug smugglers Everett is after, Boyle's first comment on seeing four white faces is, I thought only black lads were drug dealers. Or Mexican. Informed by his superiors and by Everett that his 'tude is racist, Boyle says, I'm Irish. Racism is part of my culture. So, however, is being honest, which makes Boyle the only cop not on the take in the Galway area, and that leads to him and Everett teaming up to take out the bad guys. This is a good movie, and I recommend it without reservation. Brendan Gleeson just walks away with this movie. I'm sure it's destined to become a cult favorite in the buddy cop genre. It's like a Quentin Tarantino movie, but with better dialogue. Ponder that. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540133/ %20http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540133/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5pk6s-PRUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5pk6s-PRUE
[FairfieldLife] Pull it! Fire has *never* destroyed a steel building?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not, but he is saving himself a lot of work by not engaging. It is really amazing how much energy is required to maintain the world of our thought intact against an outer world that does not quite ever seem to fit in with them. And wouldn't give a shit if we managed TO maintain the world of our thought. NOTHING in the universe cares if our self wins an argument but that self. ...I think you spend a much greater amount of energy maintaining your world view than Barry does, and whatever else he may be or does, in regard to the forum, he has the advantage of conserving his energy because he doesn't care. He seems to be able to take and leave a point of view. Exactly. You seem to care, and that means you have to maintain a point of view. One of the things that Xeno didn't really touch on but that I will, springboarding off of his foundation, is not just the amount of energy that the compulsive defender of a world view requires to defend her POV, but the amount of energy she expects the people she is arguing with to expend. It's downright RUDE to be constantly trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that you then don't allow them to leave. The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. If the original poster is foolish enough TO get into it with either of these motormouths, that's just the start of it; both of these compulsive arguers will try to keep the argument going for as long as humanly possible, and will go so far as to insult the victim if he or she tries to escape. Classic tarbaby scenario; Uncle Remus would be proud. OK, it's obvious that this behavior indicates that the people who provoke such arguments have no clue about how much energy it takes for *them* to do it. My point is that they don't even for a moment consider the amount of energy it requires of their *victims* to participate in it. Their whole world view seems to be, OF COURSE it's worth your time and energy to argue with me; I'm worth it, because...uh...because I'm ME! It's totally ego-based, with no care whatsoever for whether the other person considers the point being argued about important or considers the person trying to lure them into an argument important. The only important thing for these two compulsive motormouths -- as far as I can tell, from my POV -- is that people focus on them, read every word they write, and are willing to be sucked into long arguments about the things they write. Bzzzt. Can you say NOT WORTH MY TIME? I think you can. Think of the energy saved by just realizing what these people are up to, what their game is, and then refusing to play. I never have to expend any of my energy even reading the stuff they write, much less arguing about it. I can instead spend whatever energy I wish to devote to this forum bouncing off of ideas like the ones you brought up in this series of posts and having fun with them. As you say, I don't have to argue about my having fun posts, or defend anything I say in them, I can just write them for fun. Thanks for writing -- and acting -- in such a way as to make that possible, Xeno. It's the polar opposite of what both Judy and Robin do.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. Mean-spirited and desperate. Sad, really. Sal Sal, You refer to my childishness, my insulting him amongst themselves, and that this is mean-spirited and desperate. That it is sad, really. Although I have enjoyed a somewhat cheerful exchange of posts in the past with you, I am going to hold you accountable for the absurdity of every one of these charges and characterizations of my posts regarding your friend. First of all, there is not one word you have used to describe what I did that comes from your experience. In order to make believable such a judgment as you have made, you have to demonstrate that you have made contact with an experience out of which these words arise. You haven't done this. You have instead, decided to construe my posts within a point of view which is predetermined and non-interactive with the reality of what those posts are. I challenge you to tell demonstrate anything in what I wrote about your friend which in any way whatsoever warrants any of the words you have applied to my posts (about him). This is a serious moral and existential failure on your part to do justice to the spirit within which I wrote those posts about your friend. I deny categorically that anything you say here is true, and if there is the slightest truth in what you say, then you should experience, in reading this post, the false relationship that exists between my implicit justification of those posts (the honourability of my intention, as well as the substance of what I wrote) and those posts as they registered inside of you when you read them. Just because you object to what someone has said about someone you like, before you go to attack that person, you still must enter into an innocent and objective context of experiencewhich can then inspire you in your defence of your friend . Else what you end up saying tends to vindicate the critic, because your criticism of that critic bears zero relationship to what was actually said, and therefore goes towards proving that critic right, and your defence of your friend, an act of arbitrary and reflexive loyalty having nothing to do with the actual facts. Because who knows? maybe you're dead right and I *am* mean-spirited, desperate, childish, and insulting. That would be sad, really, because as far as I know no one in my entire life has accused me of being thisI have my faults but I pride myself on at least avoiding all the ones which you direct my way in this post of yours. In order to be credible, and for me to respect your judgment of me, Sal, you have to let me have access to the experience out of which you have formed this assessment of me. How to do that?It is very simple: read your friend's comments about me (e.g. what he said about my critique of Adyashanti); then read my posts about your friend (yes, even in my conversation with Judy). Also you will want to hold fast to your settled opinion of your friend that you bring to this exercise (and this is quite permissible in this exercise; however you must not let that opinion preclude you from at least contemplating opinions that may contradict your own opinionor test them). Let all these things play and interact inside your experience; if, after having done this, you still reach the same conclusion as expressed in this post, then fine: I will accept this as your sincere and thoughtful judgment of me. Why? Because then you will have revealed the experience out of which you formed this judgment; it will be there inside the context within which you write. The post above misses the target so badly that I feel sympathy for you. It *is* possible to say the the same thing, but if you want to be believable you must carry with you the experience which compelled you to say what you said. And that experience is just not there. I am not mean-spirited; I am not childish; I am not desperate; and I never insult people. However, all of what you say about me, ironically enough, could be saidalthough you are not consciously culpable in thisabout your post, Sal. Hey, Sal: let's get right down to it. If there is *any* truth in your post, then this post of mine simply becomes the very data that I can claim is not there in anything I said about your friend. Because if you are rightin the very leastin what you say about me, then, obviously, I have, consciously or unconsciously, condemned myself a second time, only in this instance you have more direct proof. Because always the justification for doing what is wrong always carries with it a greater stench of falseness than the actual deed itself. So, Sal, I am prepared for it: Take me down. And, if you can, please perform this necessary act of humiliation of me with a little more moxie than your friend has brought to this exercise (see my most
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Barry, did your mother ever spank you without telling you why? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not, but he is saving himself a lot of work by not engaging. It is really amazing how much energy is required to maintain the world of our thought intact against an outer world that does not quite ever seem to fit in with them. And wouldn't give a shit if we managed TO maintain the world of our thought. NOTHING in the universe cares if our self wins an argument but that self. ...I think you spend a much greater amount of energy maintaining your world view than Barry does, and whatever else he may be or does, in regard to the forum, he has the advantage of conserving his energy because he doesn't care. He seems to be able to take and leave a point of view. Exactly. You seem to care, and that means you have to maintain a point of view. One of the things that Xeno didn't really touch on but that I will, springboarding off of his foundation, is not just the amount of energy that the compulsive defender of a world view requires to defend her POV, but the amount of energy she expects the people she is arguing with to expend. It's downright RUDE to be constantly trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that you then don't allow them to leave. The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. If the original poster is foolish enough TO get into it with either of these motormouths, that's just the start of it; both of these compulsive arguers will try to keep the argument going for as long as humanly possible, and will go so far as to insult the victim if he or she tries to escape. Classic tarbaby scenario; Uncle Remus would be proud. OK, it's obvious that this behavior indicates that the people who provoke such arguments have no clue about how much energy it takes for *them* to do it. My point is that they don't even for a moment consider the amount of energy it requires of their *victims* to participate in it. Their whole world view seems to be, OF COURSE it's worth your time and energy to argue with me; I'm worth it, because...uh...because I'm ME! It's totally ego-based, with no care whatsoever for whether the other person considers the point being argued about important or considers the person trying to lure them into an argument important. The only important thing for these two compulsive motormouths -- as far as I can tell, from my POV -- is that people focus on them, read every word they write, and are willing to be sucked into long arguments about the things they write. Bzzzt. Can you say NOT WORTH MY TIME? I think you can. Think of the energy saved by just realizing what these people are up to, what their game is, and then refusing to play. I never have to expend any of my energy even reading the stuff they write, much less arguing about it. I can instead spend whatever energy I wish to devote to this forum bouncing off of ideas like the ones you brought up in this series of posts and having fun with them. As you say, I don't have to argue about my having fun posts, or defend anything I say in them, I can just write them for fun. Thanks for writing -- and acting -- in such a way as to make that possible, Xeno. It's the polar opposite of what both Judy and Robin do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pull it! Fire has *never* destroyed a steel building?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw The explosions are very clearly visible here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GIfeature=fvwpNR=1
[FairfieldLife] The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to replay all of the events of 9/11, I think it's important for at least one voice on this forum to point out that in spiritual terms what we're talking about is classic attachment to a set of afflictive emotions, and a conscious attempt to *stay* attached. 9/11 inspired for Americans a very real and palpable sense of several afflictive emotions -- fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge. ALL of these emotions have basically defined the national character of the United States Of America in the ten years since the event. Indulging in these afflictive emotions has cost the country its stature, its credibility, its civil liberties, trillions of dollars, thousands of lost lives, the bankruptcy of its economy, and more. So what does the country -- aided by the same media that supported its unconscionable post-9/11 wars and loss of its own liberties -- DO when confronted by the ten-year anniversary of 9/11? They stage an over-the-top media frenzy, the very *idea* of which is to get viewers to wallow in the afflictive emotions of the original event as much as humanly possible, to bring them to the top of everyone's emotional processing stack, and activate them again. Starting to feel as if there is more to life than fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge? That's UnAmerican. Watch these videos, and you'll be politically correct again, wallowing in the same afflictive emotions you've been wallowing in for the last ten years. GOTTA perpetuate the fear. GOTTA perpetuate the anger. GOTTA perpetuate the outrage. GOTTA perpetuate the desire for revenge. Just GOTTA. It's the American way. The Spanish got over having one of their bullet trains bombed by terrorists in a month, without descending into the maelstrom of hate and lashing out that America did. The British public did mostly the same thing w.r.t. the bombings in the London Underground (mostly...its government went the other direction, and tried to emulate the American way of indulgence in these afflictive emotions). Americans? They just seem to want more of the same. I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. And I also suspect that as a result many in yesterday's audience are as established in wallowing in the same afflictive emotions today as they were on 9/12/2001. THAT, in my opinion, was the whole point.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words My original comment, posted 10 minutes before MZ's: The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. What I love about total narcissists is that they are so self-absorbed that they don't realize that their own egoscreeds *demonstrate* the very things their critics have said about them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. Mean-spirited and desperate. Sad, really. Sal Sal, You refer to my childishness, my insulting him amongst themselves, and that this is mean-spirited and desperate. That it is sad, really. Although I have enjoyed a somewhat cheerful exchange of posts in the past with you, I am going to hold you accountable for the absurdity of every one of these charges and characterizations of my posts regarding your friend. First of all, there is not one word you have used to describe what I did that comes from your experience. In order to make believable such a judgment as you have made, you have to demonstrate that you have made contact with an experience out of which these words arise. You haven't done this. You have instead, decided to construe my posts within a point of view which is predetermined and non-interactive with the reality of what those posts are. I challenge you to tell demonstrate anything in what I wrote about your friend which in any way whatsoever warrants any of the words you have applied to my posts (about him). This is a serious moral and existential failure on your part to do justice to the spirit within which I wrote those posts about your friend. I deny categorically that anything you say here is true, and if there is the slightest truth in what you say, then you should experience, in reading this post, the false relationship that exists between my implicit justification of those posts (the honourability of my intention, as well as the substance of what I wrote) and those posts as they registered inside of you when you read them. Just because you object to what someone has said about someone you like, before you go to attack that person, you still must enter into an innocent and objective context of experiencewhich can then inspire you in your defence of your friend . Else what you end up saying tends to vindicate the critic, because your criticism of that critic bears zero relationship to what was actually said, and therefore goes towards proving that critic right, and your defence of your friend, an act of arbitrary and reflexive loyalty having nothing to do with the actual facts. Because who knows? maybe you're dead right and I *am* mean-spirited, desperate, childish, and insulting. That would be sad, really, because as far as I know no one in my entire life has accused me of being thisI have my faults but I pride myself on at least avoiding all the ones which you direct my way in this post of yours. In order to be credible, and for me to respect your judgment of me, Sal, you have to let me have access to the experience out of which you have formed this assessment of me. How to do that?It is very simple: read your friend's comments about me (e.g. what he said about my critique of Adyashanti); then read my posts about your friend (yes, even in my conversation with Judy). Also you will want to hold fast to your settled opinion of your friend that you bring to this exercise (and this is quite permissible in this exercise; however you must not let that opinion preclude you from at least contemplating opinions that may contradict your own opinionor test them). Let all these things play and interact inside your experience; if, after having done this, you still reach the same conclusion as expressed in this post, then fine: I will accept this as your sincere and thoughtful judgment of me. Why? Because then you will have revealed the experience out of which you formed this judgment; it will be there inside the context within which you write. The post above misses the target so badly that I feel sympathy for you. It *is* possible to say the the same thing, but if you want to be believable you must carry with you the experience which compelled you to say what you said. And that experience is just not there. I am not mean-spirited; I am not childish; I am not desperate; and I never insult people. However,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba/Discourse on Self-Realization
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Can this be condensed to Madame, I am London What has Madam's in London to do with Tat Wala Babas last inspiration: Having gained this beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have known that element of the Self, then we have really used this wonderful diamond-like gift, this diamond-like nervous system which is capable of giving that eternal bliss. If it is not experienced, then we have wasted that gift of diamond. We have taken upon ourselves this human nervous system, not for the sake of petty enjoyment of changing nature in this relative field of change, but to live and be that infinite bliss. And, we will have to attain that thing whether we attain it in this life, or in the next, or in the next. We just can't forego that. Therefore, with the assistance of the guru and the scriptures, better to attain it quickly. Why postpone? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: What is the aim of all the beings? It is the attainment of infinite happiness. A life free from suffering, and the attainment of eternal happiness is what we want. Now, we should discriminate and analyze if there is anything in the world which can give us permanent, eternal happiness. From the ant up to the giant of the Creator, all are in the field of change, that is, relative values. Infinite happiness can only come from something which could be immortal, non-changing, eternal. This which is the goal of everything, this infinite, is our own Self. And in order to experience that Self which is the basis of all, we don't have to seek, we don't have to search, we don't have to make efforts. It's there, present everywhere. Wherever you are, in whatever reign of time or place, that Self is there - wherever we are in whatever time. Only, we have to take our awareness to that level and that is it. Having forgotten that level of life, we are seeking for that eternal happiness. That Self is. It is being and it is blissful. Having forgotten that, we now are seeking for it. We have forgotten what we ourselves are and we're trying to find that in the world. As long as we don't enter into that area which is infinite happiness, free from suffering, so long we will not be free from suffering and we will not get into that eternal happiness. There is no happiness of significant nature in the world; the child is gone, and the youth is gone, and the man is old, and even then he is not fulfilled in the world. When he gets established in the Self, then automatically freedom from suffering and attainment of bliss will be there. That which is omnipresent doesn't have to be sought. It's there already. Start to be. That which is omnipresent is not to be sought; only our awareness has to be brought to that level and that bliss is there. You don't have to seek it. Understand? Unless we get into that omnipresent bliss, satisfaction is not going to come. If it were to come, it would have come by now through so many avenues in the world. But, it has not. Therefore, that which is the Self is your own being. You don't have to look in the outside. And, it is irrespective of any religious faiths or beliefs; Christians or Muslims or Hindus. That being is the knowledge itself. Only, you have to know. All these various manifestations of happiness that we experience in the world, they also are the manifestations of the same eternal being which is our own Self. If we are aware of the Self, if we know it, fine. Otherwise, we have to be. And, therefore, it is necessary to bring our awareness deep within ourselves. As deeply as we can bring our awareness to the Self, so intensely we can inherit that which is omnipresent in our day to day life. Having known that Self we will be eternally contented; remaining in the world we will live contentment. And, it's not a matter of detaching ourselves from the world. Only, we have to know It, and having known It, then, all different manifestations in the world will be experienced as manifestations of That. We don't have to detach ourselves. It is just a matter of bringing the awareness to that area, and be, and live It. Having gained this beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have known that element of the Self, then we have really used this wonderful diamond-like gift, this diamond-like nervous system which is capable of giving that eternal bliss. If it is not experienced, then we have wasted that gift of diamond. We have taken upon ourselves this human nervous system, not for the sake of petty enjoyment of changing nature in this relative field of change, but to live and be that infinite bliss. And, we will have to attain that thing whether we attain it in this life, or in the next, or in the next. We just can't forego that.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)
*REPORT meditate on mantra kleem in TM I meditated for 7 days twice daily with mantra kleem, I did not feelwell, I felt bad headache, I did not feel natural, so I'm meditating today with the official tM beej mantra, and recommended in the list of * *MMY gave the teachers of TM **... * * * *kleem on TM technique is no good to me .. :) * * * * * 2011/9/9 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca ** by associated in mean if UL falls in leo then it is Sunday , in Capricorn or Aquarius the Saturday etc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: also if you want more love in your life try to do some kind of fast on the weekday associated with the planet of your Upapada Lagna. Download Jagannatha Hora (free) and look for the sign where UL appears in your birth chart. Kleem kaamadevaya vidmahe pushpabanaya dhimahi tanno nangah prachodyat. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: I think Maharishi would say it beautiful, its very very beautiful this idea of using silently this mantra. You want to give up developing some knowledge or wealth or power quality for just love, worldly or divine? it is a great idea. you might need to give a two-syllable feel to Maharishiize that mantra, (which would not necesarily work for english speakers)but you are already on the advanced techniques so thats not such a concern necessarily. This is unfortunately not necessarily a good place to ask such a question. You already know the answer in your heart. Trailokya Sanmohan Tantra: Na catra satrava dosha narnasvadi vicharana, Rksha rasi vicharo va na kartavyo manau priye --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcio tmer1306@ wrote: is not a joke, I'm serious about meditation and mantras, TM mantras etc. .. kleem is different from kreem, kreem is kali mantra ,,, and kleem mantra for lord krishna, Cupid, indra ... I've looked at some sites on the net say 'Kamadeva is one of the names of Krishna --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Marcelo rosa wrote: i think no kreem is no variant of kleem , no , no Brill Cream, by any chance? Does anyone else get the feeling Marcelo is playing a joke? This is just too silly to be anything else. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Help Save Lamson Woods
Forward From: Diane Rosenberg drosenb...@lisco.com Dear Friends, I am all for a dog park in Fairfield, but I am also for protecting one of our community's most beautiful treasures - Lamson Woods. The following letter by Fonziba Koster explains the conflict of use issue really well if you are not aware, or only somewhat aware, of the problem. The City Council is voting THIS Monday night, September 12, whether or not to locate the dog park in Lamson Woods or OB Nelson Park, a much more suitable location in my opinion. Please consider calling every City Council member if you want to protect Lamson Woods - and give dog owners an alternative great place for their dogs. This is their final vote. The City Council list is at the end of this letter. Remember, your calls DO make a difference! Four votes will protect Lamson Woods. Thank you very much, Diane ___ Dear Friends, Some of you may be aware that there is a group of Fairfield citizens who are trying to create a Dog Park in Fairfield. They have been working on this project for 3 years and during that time have raised $10,000 ($5,000 of which came from a grant.) to build a Dog Park. The Fairfield Park and Rec department gave the Dog Park Committee 15 options for a location for the park which were denied by the Dog Park Committee. One option that they considered was OB Nelson park which is the large park near the outdoor pool off Filmore St. It seemed like this location was ideal in terms of parking availability and room to expand in the future. There was only one problem - there needs to be a drainage system put on the parcel they would use which would cost an additional $15,000. Because of this extra expense, the Dog Park Committee and the Fairfield Park and Rec dept. settled on putting the Dog Park in the grassy area at the entrance to Lamson Woods. Most of the neighbors of Lamson Woods were unaware of this project and only found out about it recently when the building of the chain-link fence was about to start. Many of them were quite upset about this because this grassy area is a very pristine spot where a lot of wildlife comes. It also serves as a beautiful entrance to Lamson Woods which is a Nature Preserve donated by the Lamson family. They felt the dog park with it's very high chain link fence would ruin the natural beauty of the place, plus the dogs would scare away the abundant wildlife that many walkers and bikers enjoy. Also, this spot is used for picnicking, sunbathing, Frisbee games etc. - all of which would no longer be possible if the Dog Park were put there. In response, these neighbors formed the Friends of Lamson Woods to help prevent this spot from being ruined. They collected about 700 signatures on a petition which brought no response from the Fairfield Park and Rec Dept. . They then brought the issue up to the Fairfield Town Council who voted that unless the Friends of Lamson Woods could raise the $15,000 needed to put the Dog Park at OB Nelson, the Dog Park would be installed at Lamson Woods. Unfortunately, they only gave them 3 weeks to raise these funds - which seems a little unfair when you consider that the Dog Park Committee took 3 years to raise $5,000 (plus the $5,000 grant). The Friends of Lamson Woods are asking for our help to either email or call the Town Council members - see numbers and emails below - and/or to help contribute funds towards relocating the park to OB Nelson. So far, the Friends of Lamson Woods have been able to raise $2,500 which is pretty good in only a few weeks time. The Town Council will make their final vote on this matter this Monday, the 12th. If any of you would feel moved to write or call them and ask them to reconsider their stance, this would be great. Even if they could just vote to give the Friends of Lamson Woods more time to raise the funds would be very helpful. Otherwise, construction will begin. If you can donate, please do so before Monday - Please email Anne Marie Schwamm innerligh...@lisco.com and let her know how much you wish to donate so she knows before the Town Council meeting. Make Checks to: Fairfield Park Rec - Dog Park Send Checks to: Friends of Lamson Woods, PO Box 2481, Fairfield, IA, 52556 Donated funds will be held by the Friends of Lamson Woods and will only be used to relocate the park. If for some reason they are not able to accomplish this, your money will be refunded. If you email the members of the Town Council, it has been suggested to put No to Lamson Woods on the subject line. Below are the numbers and emails for the Town Council, plus some talking points for you to consider using. Thanks so much for any help you can give! -Fonziba Koster City Council Members: 1st Ward - Ron Adam - (641)472-4011 mailto:rka...@lisco.comrka...@lisco.com rka...@lisco.com 2nd Ward- John Revolinski - (641)472-3939 jrevolin...@gmail.com 3rd Ward - Ray Mottett - (641)472-9010
[FairfieldLife] Fwd:
Delivered-To: dickm...@lisco.com Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:53:54 -0500 (CDT) From: owner-dom...@is1.mum.edu X-MagicMail-UUID: ac41fedc-dcb3-11e0-af6d-00065bf16b23 Ý In an effort to reduce the risk of accidents, provide neat and orderly parking, and maximize the number of cars we can accommodate, Facilities Management will be painting the lines in several of our University parking lots. Sender: owner-dom...@is1.mum.edu Precedence: bulk We appreciate everyone's cooperation in avoiding the following areas on the specified dates: South Dreier parking lot will be closed on Monday, September 12, 2011 from Noon to the rest of the day. Argiro parking lot will be closed on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Please park in the lower north parking lot. Women's Dome: On Monday, September 12, 2011 we will be roping off the North portion from 6:00 a.m. to 12:00 Noon. From Noon to 4:00 p.m. the Women's South parking lot will be roped off so that the parking lines can be painted. Please carpool or park at alternate parking on this date. Men's Dome: On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 we will be roping off the parking lot from 12:00 Noon to 6:00 p.m.Please carpool or park at alternate parking on this date. Please forward this email to any persons you feel this will affect or post in places so all can be aware of this project. Thank You for your Cooperation. Charles Besick Facilities Maintenance *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to owner-dom...@mum.edu. Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to dome-l-requ...@mum.edu, and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to: dome-l-requ...@mum.edu, and type the word unsubscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
turquoiseb: Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled... So, you feel offended. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Thank You, Steve, but the sobriety you seek is entirely in your own mind's eye. While perhaps appearing from time to time as sober as a Judge -- say, Clarence (Anita Drink) Thomas -- in reality I'm always weaving across all eight lanes of this veepish super-highway -- but is it eight, or is it sixteen? In all fairness, though I know not whether I come or go, in my defense the gentle rain keeps washing all dividing lines away. (And someone left the yellowcake in the rain, so there goes the nuclear family values, but I will return as you -- and you -- and you -- and you were there. But you couldn't have been, could you? It wasn't just a dream, or a binding resolution anyway, noway, nohow, nowhere, nobody.) In truth, I am Absolutly drunk as Ravi, as Robin, as you -- and you -- and you -- and you -- and every One of Us when I belly up to the Phat Phuc bar to inhale this day my daily Red with oodles of buddha-noodles, and this is my brain on Love is my body and Love is my blood. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Damn Rory, when you choose to stay in one lane, or should I say one plane, you can make a darn funny post. Fun stuff. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Since the human soul cannot be produced by the transmutation of matter, it cannot but be produced immediately by God. Reason in man is rather like God in the world. He who desires a good seeks to have it as it really is in nature, not as it is in his consciousness. The desire for good is more corrupted than is the knowledge of truth. Gratitude tries to return more than has been received. The lover is not content with superficial knowledge of the beloved, but strives for intimate discovery and entrance. Holding steady in danger is more important than taking the offensive. Magnificence consorts with liberality in its material, with courage in its mode. The prayer of which we speak here is an act of intelligence, not of will. Distinctions drawn by the mind are not necessarily equivalent to distinctions in reality. In meditating on the universal truth of beings, primary philosophy must also scrutinize the general setting of truth. Because philosophy arises from awe a philosopher is bound in his way to be a lover of myths and poetic fables. Poets and philosophers are alike in being big with wonder. All mutables bring us back to a first immutable. The desire for goodness, beauty, peace, does not end up with different things. A contingent event escapes certitude because it is future, not because it is present. Mercy is supremely God'seffectively rather than affectively. Jo Calderone --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words My original comment, posted 10 minutes before MZ's: The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. What I love about total narcissists is that they are so self-absorbed that they don't realize that their own egoscreeds *demonstrate* the very things their critics have said about them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. Mean-spirited and desperate. Sad, really. Sal Sal, You refer to my childishness, my insulting him amongst themselves, and that this is mean-spirited and desperate. That it is sad, really. Although I have enjoyed a somewhat cheerful exchange of posts in the past with you, I am going to hold you accountable for the absurdity of every one of these charges and characterizations of my posts regarding your friend. First of all, there is not one word you have used to describe what I did that comes from your experience. In order to make believable such a judgment as you have made, you have to demonstrate that you have made contact with an experience out of which these words arise. You haven't done this. You have instead, decided to construe my posts within a point of view which is predetermined and non-interactive with the reality of what those posts are. I challenge you to tell demonstrate anything in what I wrote about your friend which in any way whatsoever warrants any of the words you have applied to my posts (about him). This is a serious moral and existential failure on your part to do justice to the spirit within which I wrote those posts about your friend. I deny categorically that anything you say here is true, and if there is the slightest truth in what you say, then you should experience, in reading this post, the false relationship that exists between my implicit justification of those posts (the honourability of my intention, as well as the substance of what I wrote) and those posts as they registered inside of you when you read them. Just because you object to what someone has said about someone you like, before you go to attack that person, you still must enter into an innocent and objective context of experiencewhich can then inspire you in your defence of your friend . Else what you end up saying tends to vindicate the critic, because your criticism of that critic bears zero relationship to what was actually said, and therefore goes towards proving that critic right, and your defence of your friend, an act of arbitrary and reflexive loyalty having nothing to do with the actual facts. Because who knows? maybe you're dead right and I *am* mean-spirited, desperate, childish, and insulting. That would be sad, really, because as far as I know no one in my entire life
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
chalk one up for nabby. : ) lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
and non attachments. : ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdxhZQlOO_0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to replay all of the events of 9/11, I think it's important for at least one voice on this forum to point out that in spiritual terms what we're talking about is classic attachment to a set of afflictive emotions, and a conscious attempt to *stay* attached. 9/11 inspired for Americans a very real and palpable sense of several afflictive emotions -- fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge. ALL of these emotions have basically defined the national character of the United States Of America in the ten years since the event. Indulging in these afflictive emotions has cost the country its stature, its credibility, its civil liberties, trillions of dollars, thousands of lost lives, the bankruptcy of its economy, and more. So what does the country -- aided by the same media that supported its unconscionable post-9/11 wars and loss of its own liberties -- DO when confronted by the ten-year anniversary of 9/11? They stage an over-the-top media frenzy, the very *idea* of which is to get viewers to wallow in the afflictive emotions of the original event as much as humanly possible, to bring them to the top of everyone's emotional processing stack, and activate them again. Starting to feel as if there is more to life than fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge? That's UnAmerican. Watch these videos, and you'll be politically correct again, wallowing in the same afflictive emotions you've been wallowing in for the last ten years. GOTTA perpetuate the fear. GOTTA perpetuate the anger. GOTTA perpetuate the outrage. GOTTA perpetuate the desire for revenge. Just GOTTA. It's the American way. The Spanish got over having one of their bullet trains bombed by terrorists in a month, without descending into the maelstrom of hate and lashing out that America did. The British public did mostly the same thing w.r.t. the bombings in the London Underground (mostly...its government went the other direction, and tried to emulate the American way of indulgence in these afflictive emotions). Americans? They just seem to want more of the same. I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. And I also suspect that as a result many in yesterday's audience are as established in wallowing in the same afflictive emotions today as they were on 9/12/2001. THAT, in my opinion, was the whole point.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba/Discourse on Self-Realization
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba/Discourse on Self-Realization --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Can this be condensed to Madame, I am London What has Madam's in London to do with Tat Wala Babas last inspiration: When Tat Wale Baba visited the Rishikesh TTC, a woman proclaimed that he should visit London. Madame, I am London was his response. Having gained this beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have known that element of the Self, then we have really used this wonderful diamond-like gift, this diamond-like nervous system which is capable of giving that eternal bliss. If it is not experienced, then we have wasted that gift of diamond. We have taken upon ourselves this human nervous system, not for the sake of petty enjoyment of changing nature in this relative field of change, but to live and be that infinite bliss. And, we will have to attain that thing whether we attain it in this life, or in the next, or in the next. We just can't forego that. Therefore, with the assistance of the guru and the scriptures, better to attain it quickly. Why postpone? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: What is the aim of all the beings? It is the attainment of infinite happiness. A life free from suffering, and the attainment of eternal happiness is what we want. Now, we should discriminate and analyze if there is anything in the world which can give us permanent, eternal happiness. From the ant up to the giant of the Creator, all are in the field of change, that is, relative values. Infinite happiness can only come from something which could be immortal, non-changing, eternal. This which is the goal of everything, this infinite, is our own Self. And in order to experience that Self which is the basis of all, we don't have to seek, we don't have to search, we don't have to make efforts. It's there, present everywhere. Wherever you are, in whatever reign of time or place, that Self is there - wherever we are in whatever time. Only, we have to take our awareness to that level and that is it. Having forgotten that level of life, we are seeking for that eternal happiness. That Self is. It is being and it is blissful. Having forgotten that, we now are seeking for it. We have forgotten what we ourselves are and we're trying to find that in the world. As long as we don't enter into that area which is infinite happiness, free from suffering, so long we will not be free from suffering and we will not get into that eternal happiness. There is no happiness of significant nature in the world; the child is gone, and the youth is gone, and the man is old, and even then he is not fulfilled in the world. When he gets established in the Self, then automatically freedom from suffering and attainment of bliss will be there. That which is omnipresent doesn't have to be sought. It's there already. Start to be. That which is omnipresent is not to be sought; only our awareness has to be brought to that level and that bliss is there. You don't have to seek it. Understand? Unless we get into that omnipresent bliss, satisfaction is not going to come. If it were to come, it would have come by now through so many avenues in the world. But, it has not. Therefore, that which is the Self is your own being. You don't have to look in the outside. And, it is irrespective of any religious faiths or beliefs; Christians or Muslims or Hindus. That being is the knowledge itself. Only, you have to know. All these various manifestations of happiness that we experience in the world, they also are the manifestations of the same eternal being which is our own Self. If we are aware of the Self, if we know it, fine. Otherwise, we have to be. And, therefore, it is necessary to bring our awareness deep within ourselves. As deeply as we can bring our awareness to the Self, so intensely we can inherit that which is omnipresent in our day to day life. Having known that Self we will be eternally contented; remaining in the world we will live contentment. And, it's not a matter of detaching ourselves from the world. Only, we have to know It, and having known It, then, all different manifestations in the world will be experienced as manifestations of That. We don't have to detach ourselves. It is just a matter of bringing the awareness to that area, and be, and live It. Having gained this beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have known that element of the Self, then we have really used this wonderful diamond-like gift, this diamond-like
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Xeno, Thank you for your post, I found it both resonant and refreshing. Comments below. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip ...They are not empathetic, they are not sympathetic, they do not care about a person's individuality, because that individuality is a false perception they are trying to root out. They do not care about a person's beliefs, or what is good or bad, because that is all part of the illusion. But they do have a purpose, to trick us into seeing through our own illusions one way or another. Any aspect of life can function like this if you let it. Even Barry can be a surrogate for a master if one lets the experience in as a lesson, can function like a master even if he is not a 'master' in any sense like the ones adored on this forum. This is because every moment, every situation is a part of the whole of life, and it is that whole that beckons us to see it in its entirety ***In the case of a Buddha, Christ or Krishna isn't empathy---I agree with everything else you mention---with the suffering of humanity and creation what motivates them to manifest? Even with Maharishi, Krishnamurti and OSHO I sensed a capacity for empathy although I agree they were without sentimentality. Although I agree with a previous comment I thought you made---(sorry if I'm paraphrasing) that what is communicated on FFL is a voice and can hardly be used to measure the whole communicator---one of the issues I have with the declarations of enlightenment, on this forum, is that the practitioners, or at least their voices, seem so emotionally unenlightened, while having so much of the verbiage down. For my money, the voices on this forum that sound closest to the original western use of the word enlightenment (as in the renaissance) are yours and Curtis's. The rest, including mine, are something entirely different. But then some of us have other interests---holes to dig, nests to raid and finding a place to lay our heads. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:44:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Ravi, I was just questioning how deeply we can know someone's internal state by external cues. I do not know what Barry's internal state is. I for one cannot figure him out, but I am not convinced that projecting my hypotheses as an explanation of his behaviour is really to any point. Judy has a very keen intellect, but I do think she also projects her own emotional states onto others. I *think* that, but it is an hypothesis, because I do not *know* that. I also *think* she does not think that she projects her internal states onto the world. But that thought might not have any substance to it. There is always ambiguity because what people feel and think is not necessarily what they say, nor does their behaviour always indicate what is really going on in there. I find it fascinating that you focus on my purported emotional projections onto Barry, while completely ignoring Barry's own tendency to project. I was posting via a post you had written, and to give what I wanted to say some kind of point of view, that seemed to me to be the point of view to take. Barry obviously does mention others in his posts and makes comments about them. Don't feel like you have been picked out for persecution. If 10 vehicles are going 75 in a 50 miles per hour zone and one gets ticketed out of the group for speeding and the other get off free, it might just be the fall of the dice. I did try to make sure I said when I suggested you were projecting, that in fact that was also what I was doing when I suggested it. I try to make a habit of not projecting, of being neutral, but do not always succeed, but in the past when I have brought up the subject, you have always retorted that that was a diversion from the argument at hand. So, do you feel you project your inner feelings and musings and ideas onto others as you discuss them, or do you feel you do not do this? I think this concept is one of the important linchpins of the enlightenment game. As Maharishi said, unity is real, diversity is conceptual. Zen masters exhort their disciples to give up opinions. Adyashanti mentioned in an interview that as a child he came to the conclusion that adults were insane because they believed what they thought. This idea can also be appreciated in say, the Bible, 'God said let there be light, and there was light.' That is, there is a connexion between word and form. You can see this in the Gospel attributed to John, 'In the beginning was the word
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:21:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not, but he is saving himself a lot of work by not engaging. It is really amazing how much energy is required to maintain the world of our thought intact against an outer world that does not quite ever seem to fit in with them. And wouldn't give a shit if we managed TO maintain the world of our thought. NOTHING in the universe cares if our self wins an argument but that self. ...I think you spend a much greater amount of energy maintaining your world view than Barry does, and whatever else he may be or does, in regard to the forum, he has the advantage of conserving his energy because he doesn't care. He seems to be able to take and leave a point of view. Exactly. You seem to care, and that means you have to maintain a point of view. One of the things that Xeno didn't really touch on but that I will, springboarding off of his foundation, is not just the amount of energy that the compulsive defender of a world view requires to defend her POV, but the amount of energy she expects the people she is arguing with to expend. It's downright RUDE to be constantly trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that you then don't allow them to leave. The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. If the original poster is foolish enough TO get into it with either of these motormouths, that's just the start of it; both of these compulsive arguers will try to keep the argument going for as long as humanly possible, and will go so far as to insult the victim if he or she tries to escape. Classic tarbaby scenario; Uncle Remus would be proud. OK, it's obvious that this behavior indicates that the people who provoke such arguments have no clue about how much energy it takes for *them* to do it. My point is that they don't even for a moment consider the amount of energy it requires of their *victims* to participate in it. Their whole world view seems to be, OF COURSE it's worth your time and energy to argue with me; I'm worth it, because...uh...because I'm ME! It's totally ego-based, with no care whatsoever for whether the other person considers the point being argued about important or considers the person trying to lure them into an argument important. The only important thing for these two compulsive motormouths -- as far as I can tell, from my POV -- is that people focus on them, read every word they write, and are willing to be sucked into long arguments about the things they write. Bzzzt. Can you say NOT WORTH MY TIME? I think you can. Think of the energy saved by just realizing what these people are up to, what their game is, and then refusing to play. I never have to expend any of my energy even reading the stuff they write, much less arguing about it. I can instead spend whatever energy I wish to devote to this forum bouncing off of ideas like the ones you brought up in this series of posts and having fun with them. As you say, I don't have to argue about my having fun posts, or defend anything I say in them, I can just write them for fun. Thanks for writing -- and acting -- in such a way as to make that possible, Xeno. It's the polar opposite of what both Judy and Robin do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba/Discourse on Self-Realization
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: When Tat Wale Baba visited the Rishikesh TTC, a woman proclaimed that he should visit London. Madame, I am London was his response. That must be the origin of Tom T's I am the dome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
Loved it, thanks. Backacha! Jesus and Vishnu on Christmas eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=LJYLT9TbRew
[FairfieldLife] Motoring With A Motormouth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Take the mountain road over the Pyrenees instead of the tunnel, and then claim that the altitude change has plugged up your ears and you can't hear.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Barry, just how much energy does it take to craft and maintain elaborate fantasies like the one you describe below? If you're so concerned about saving energy, wouldn't it require a lot less to simply deal with reality as it is instead of making stuff up and going on and on and on about it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip One of the things that Xeno didn't really touch on but that I will, springboarding off of his foundation, is not just the amount of energy that the compulsive defender of a world view requires to defend her POV, but the amount of energy she expects the people she is arguing with to expend. It's downright RUDE to be constantly trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that you then don't allow them to leave. The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. If the original poster is foolish enough TO get into it with either of these motormouths, that's just the start of it; both of these compulsive arguers will try to keep the argument going for as long as humanly possible, and will go so far as to insult the victim if he or she tries to escape. Classic tarbaby scenario; Uncle Remus would be proud. OK, it's obvious that this behavior indicates that the people who provoke such arguments have no clue about how much energy it takes for *them* to do it. My point is that they don't even for a moment consider the amount of energy it requires of their *victims* to participate in it. Their whole world view seems to be, OF COURSE it's worth your time and energy to argue with me; I'm worth it, because...uh...because I'm ME! It's totally ego-based, with no care whatsoever for whether the other person considers the point being argued about important or considers the person trying to lure them into an argument important. The only important thing for these two compulsive motormouths -- as far as I can tell, from my POV -- is that people focus on them, read every word they write, and are willing to be sucked into long arguments about the things they write.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I find it fascinating that you focus on my purported emotional projections onto Barry, while completely ignoring Barry's own tendency to project. I was posting via a post you had written, and to give what I wanted to say some kind of point of view, that seemed to me to be the point of view to take. Barry obviously does mention others in his posts and makes comments about them. Don't feel like you have been picked out for persecution. If 10 vehicles are going 75 in a 50 miles per hour zone and one gets ticketed out of the group for speeding and the other get off free, it might just be the fall of the dice. Ah, I see, you claim to be a cop qualified to discern who is guilty of infractions and hand out tickets. But you seem to be carrying around a loaded pair of dice, because this is hardly the only time you've singled me out. Look, Xeno, I could not possibly be less interested in taking enlightenment lessons from you. If you want to engage me in the realm of duality, you will (a) come down from the mountain; (b) observe duality's rules of fair play; and (c) not retreat back up the mountain to avoid dealing with the issues you've raised. Otherwise, I don't recognize your authority to hand out tickets. Have I made myself perfectly clear? snip So, do you feel you project your inner feelings and musings and ideas onto others as you discuss them, or do you feel you do not do this? Not anywhere near as much as you imagine. I might point out that some of us here have had much longer experience with Barry than you have. He can be very impressive at first blush because of his skill with words, but ultimately that skill fails to hide a barrenness and lack of authenticity, as well as a profoundly malicious hostility toward most other people. Some folks realize what a malignant presence he is on this forum more quickly than others. snip As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. Which is, mostly, putting down other people. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not, but he is saving himself a lot of work by not engaging. And some of us see this as lazy and/or fearful. Again, if one is going to hand out tickets, one has to be prepared to defend them in court. But that excuse for not engaging doesn't hold water in any case, because he has enormous amounts of energy invested in fantasizing about his critics--not just about their inner lives but about factual elements of their behavior and what they've said. One of his comments on MZ's posts, for example, was that MZ has been attempting to convince people to accept Jesus. Anybody who's actually read what MZ has written knows that's flat-out factually false. And then his post this morning in response to yours, which was a compendium of ludicrously false assertions about MZ and me trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that [we] then don't allow them to leave. Those are just two of the very recent examples. His history of making stuff up about his critics is very, very long and very, very extensive (and very, very well documented). This is, in fact, one of the main reasons he no longer responds to criticism of his posts, because he's found trying to defend his falsehoods ends up doing him far more harm than good. Whether he *believes* what he says is always a question. It's never been clear whether he's a chronic liar or simply desperately self-deluded, but either way, it's a tremendous amount of mental and emotional labor to construct and maintain those demonstrably false views in the face of reality (not Reality, but on-the-record, ordinary factual reality). It does seem to be the only way he knows to preserve his self-image.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Put my hands over my ears and sing La La La I can't HEAR you! 8. Put my hands over my eyes and drive up my own backside, Uroborically speaking. 7. Tell everyone who I think is worth listening to and who isn't, who I think is enlightened and who isn't, and who I think is right and who isn't. 6. Yell, I'm NOT a poopy-pants! YOU are! 5. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all bozos on this bus. 4. Remind everyone over and over again that we are all motormouths on this bus. 3. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all already Awake on this bus. 2. Remind everyone over and over again that there is no we, there is no Awake, and there is no bus. 1. Remind myself over and over again that reminding myself over and over again that we have always and ever been an ordinary lying slimeball poopy-pants batshit-crazy tar-baby Maharishi-loving crypto-Buddhist fundamentalist-Christian CIA-serving fascist secessionist dualist nondualist Trinitarian Unitarian Aditarian Enneadist neo-Advaita paleo-Advaita liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow bi-now-gay-later commie capitalist idealist materialist expansionist reductionist mean-spirited arrogant irrelevant wanna-be charlatan motormouth is what it's all about, and don't forget to thank everyone for the wonderful ride. .
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
turquoiseb: While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to replay all of the events of 9/11... Maybe now would be a good time for the TurquoiseB to keep his big pie-hole shut about 9/11. Barry Wright's finest hour: 3000 people. Big fuckin' deal. Subject: OT: There was no intelligence failure Author: Richard Williams Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: July 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/69rl9cn
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to replay all of the events of 9/11, I think it's important for at least one voice on this forum to point out that in spiritual terms what we're talking about is classic attachment to a set of afflictive emotions, and a conscious attempt to *stay* attached. No, it's an attempt to work through and exorcise the emotions, rather than repress them as Barry has done (if he ever allowed himself to feel any emotions about 9/11 in the first place, which is doubtful). snip Starting to feel as if there is more to life than fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge? That's UnAmerican. Watch these videos, and you'll be politically correct again, wallowing in the same afflictive emotions you've been wallowing in for the last ten years. GOTTA perpetuate the fear. GOTTA perpetuate the anger. GOTTA perpetuate the outrage. GOTTA perpetuate the desire for revenge. Just GOTTA. It's the American way. Since Barry carefully refrained from watching any of the coverage he rails about, he's stupidly unaware that it focused just about exclusively on the anguish of loss and the heroism of those who did their utmost to help others, in many cases losing their lives or their health in the attempt. There was no talk of revenge or outrage or anger that I heard, only of gratitude and resilience and healing. The Spanish got over having one of their bullet trains bombed by terrorists in a month, without descending into the maelstrom of hate and lashing out that America did. The British public did mostly the same thing w.r.t. the bombings in the London Underground (mostly...its government went the other direction, and tried to emulate the American way of indulgence in these afflictive emotions). Americans? They just seem to want more of the same. Total bullshit. The UK and Spanish bombings were horrible, but they weren't anywhere near as traumatic as 9/11. Not only was the scale of the events here far greater, but the UK and Spain have not been immune from foreign terrorism on their soil historically as the U.S. has been, so it was much more of a shock here. I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. And I also suspect that as a result many in yesterday's audience are as established in wallowing in the same afflictive emotions today as they were on 9/12/2001. THAT, in my opinion, was the whole point. Sometimes one wonders if Barry is actually human. He seems to lack any sense of humanity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wale Baba/Discourse on Self-Realization
No he diii ent! Curtis didn't try to pick apart the holy wisdom of the Tater Tat and reduce it to his own limited and shrieklingly unenlightened perspective, as if he and Tat were sharing a stage with Maury Povich. And he starts it all off with the classic line you don't know me, you don't know me... Oh no he diii ent! Till he did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: What is the aim of all the beings? It is the attainment of infinite happiness. A life free from suffering, and the attainment of eternal happiness is what we want. No, no and no. This is the dream of an idiot or a young person who has not lived enough to know how to get the most out of life. Infinite happiness is as stupid as a goal as having infinite sunshine. I dig the sun. I really do. But it was the setting of the sun that allowed me to watch the moon rise tonight. I like all sorts of things that at an infinite level would destroy my creative life. Infinite happiness is one of them. Don't want it, don't need it, and frankly think it is an unreliable claim since I have seen even guys like Maharishi more pissed of than I ever get, more unhappy, and radiating it out of his king baby persona. It is not only unattainable, it would be a disaster if it was. It is dilaudid to a creative live which thrives on contrast. And most of my growth is preceded by me at first uttering the line oh shit!. That is cuz we resist the very challenges that make us grow sometimes. Now, we should discriminate and analyze if there is anything in the world which can give us permanent, eternal happiness. No we really shouldn't. This assumptive idea is so thin. It is flawed from inception. It is not the way to get the most out of life. It is a junkie's dream of a great life. From the ant up to the giant of the Creator, all are in the field of change, that is, relative values. Infinite happiness can only come from something which could be immortal, non-changing, eternal. This which is the goal of everything, this infinite, is our own Self. And in order to experience that Self which is the basis of all, we don't have to seek, we don't have to search, we don't have to make efforts. It's there, present everywhere. Wherever you are, in whatever reign of time or place, that Self is there - wherever we are in whatever time. Only, we have to take our awareness to that level and that is it. Having forgotten that level of life, we are seeking for that eternal happiness. That Self is. It is being and it is blissful. Having forgotten that, we now are seeking for it. We have forgotten what we ourselves are and we're trying to find that in the world. As long as we don't enter into that area which is infinite happiness, free from suffering, so long we will not be free from suffering and we will not get into that eternal happiness. There is no happiness of significant nature in the world; the child is gone, and the youth is gone, and the man is old, and even then he is not fulfilled in the world. When he gets established in the Self, then automatically freedom from suffering and attainment of bliss will be there. There are so many assumptive concepts here. Know your self is not a simple instruction. It presupposes so many perspectives of what our self means. I no longer share the view proposed my Maharishi's Hinduism. Any description of my self that does not lead with my personal relative qualities is not me. The silent part of my mind is not the interesting part, to me or to others. That which is omnipresent doesn't have to be sought. It's there already. Start to be. That which is omnipresent is not to be sought; only our awareness has to be brought to that level and that bliss is there. You don't have to seek it. Understand? Unless we get into that omnipresent bliss, satisfaction is not going to come. If it were to come, it would have come by now through so many avenues in the world. But, it has not. Another annoying assumption along the lines of you are not saved. His only creative passion seems to be himself. If he had an artistic creative focus, or any other number of things that people devote their lives to like research, he might find that badmouthing avenues in the world was misplaced. There are plenty of people who do not jump out of bed in the morning with the excitement of what they can engage in that day to further their goals and dreams. Some of them never leave their caves and just imagine how the rest of us live, uncharitably. I would love for him to join me in my day. He might find out that it ain't so bad out here and that his internal mind state is really NOT the most fascinating thing in the universe. Therefore, that which is the Self is your own being. You don't have to look in the outside. Are we still giving out you are profound stickers for this lame-o rap? And, it is irrespective of any religious faiths or beliefs;
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pull it! Fire has *never* destroyed a steel building?
cardemaister Fire has *never* destroyed a steel building? According to Popular Mechanics magazine: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/11/national/main20104377.shtml Debunking the 9/11 Myths: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words My original comment, posted 10 minutes before MZ's: The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. What I love about total narcissists is that they are so self-absorbed that they don't realize that their own egoscreeds *demonstrate* the very things their critics have said about them. Barry's response to Xeno: 590 words MZ's response to Barry: 11 words Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony, demonstrating he is so self-absorbed that he doesn't realize he engages in the very behavior for which he denounces his critics. And we really need to put a stake through Barry's self- serving suck into an argument myth. This is, as whynotnow noted, a forum where people comment on other people's posts. Barry spends more time here than anybody else trying to provoke reactions by badmouthing people. He simply is not entitled to then characterize the reactions as trying to suck him into an argument, especially when he avoids reading the reactions, and when he's made it clear he's too cowardly to defend his own perspective. The same, of course, applies to Stupid Sal, who models her behavior on Barry's. This whole line of thinking from Barry is, once again, an attempt to intimidate his critics into silence. Malignant narcissist that he is, he believes he should be able to say anything he pleases, true or not, about anybody, and not only never be accountable for it, but to be completely immune from criticism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Who you calling a: liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow -Luke 9:58 From: RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:35:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Put my hands over my ears and sing La La La I can't HEAR you! 8. Put my hands over my eyes and drive up my own backside, Uroborically speaking. 7. Tell everyone who I think is worth listening to and who isn't, who I think is enlightened and who isn't, and who I think is right and who isn't. 6. Yell, I'm NOT a poopy-pants! YOU are! 5. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all bozos on this bus. 4. Remind everyone over and over again that we are all motormouths on this bus. 3. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all already Awake on this bus. 2. Remind everyone over and over again that there is no we, there is no Awake, and there is no bus. 1. Remind myself over and over again that reminding myself over and over again that we have always and ever been an ordinary lying slimeball poopy-pants batshit-crazy tar-baby Maharishi-loving crypto-Buddhist fundamentalist-Christian CIA-serving fascist secessionist dualist nondualist Trinitarian Unitarian Aditarian Enneadist neo-Advaita paleo-Advaita liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow bi-now-gay-later commie capitalist idealist materialist expansionist reductionist mean-spirited arrogant irrelevant wanna-be charlatan motormouth is what it's all about, and don't forget to thank everyone for the wonderful ride. .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mistress of the Spices
Bhairitu: I suspect some folks here read the book which was a best seller and authored by a Bay Area author. I suspect few if any ever saw the movie however... Aishwarya in Sanskrit means prosperity. Aishwarya Rai speaks five languages; Hindi, English, French, Urdu, Thulu Kannada! Other titles of interest: 'Bride and Prejudice' Martin Henderson, Aishwarya Rai, Gurinder Chadha Miramax Home Entertainment DVD http://tinyurl.com/6znag2w
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-) I'm curious to know whether anyone here has ever encountered a word-counting utility that requires one to read the words it counts. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
* * Being nothing, I give birth to all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Who you calling a: liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow -Luke 9:58 From: RoryGoff rorygoff@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:35:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Put my hands over my ears and sing La La La I can't HEAR you! 8. Put my hands over my eyes and drive up my own backside, Uroborically speaking. 7. Tell everyone who I think is worth listening to and who isn't, who I think is enlightened and who isn't, and who I think is right and who isn't. 6. Yell, I'm NOT a poopy-pants! YOU are! 5. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all bozos on this bus. 4. Remind everyone over and over again that we are all motormouths on this bus. 3. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all already Awake on this bus. 2. Remind everyone over and over again that there is no we, there is no Awake, and there is no bus. 1. Remind myself over and over again that reminding myself over and over again that we have always and ever been an ordinary lying slimeball poopy-pants batshit-crazy tar-baby Maharishi-loving crypto-Buddhist fundamentalist-Christian CIA-serving fascist secessionist dualist nondualist Trinitarian Unitarian Aditarian Enneadist neo-Advaita paleo-Advaita liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow bi-now-gay-later commie capitalist idealist materialist expansionist reductionist mean-spirited arrogant irrelevant wanna-be charlatan motormouth is what it's all about, and don't forget to thank everyone for the wonderful ride. . Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: snip Bob, WTF?? You fucking retard your strength is not dealing with others directly Lament for the death of my second wife (Herr Edelstein). Ravi, Mere words could never express how moved I was to hear from you after all this time. I sincerely hope you didn't feel forgotten, or---for that matter, forsaken. That could never happen. For me you're like a fine Super Tuscan that needs aeration after its been corked. And as with all men of the renaissance you're best saved for last. You must be asking: WTF Bubaji, I'm nobody's second fiddle and I couldn't agree more, but please let me explain. In Anglo Saxon culture the second place is one of honor. Its been said, that's the reason Shakespeare left his long suffering wife his second bedthe first being for visitors. And of course---in Niel Gow's life affirming piece, the fiddle is the second wife his lament refers to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo On the other (second) hand, my lament is for the reality we must now embrace, as painful as it is, and---if not bury the hatchet, bury Herr Edelstein; because as true as the day follows night you are no one's second fiddle. And of course I must take full responsibility for this mistake in thinking you would be prefect to open for Robin when we hit the road. This all became too apparent with your previous last post when you wished me God speed. I realized then that as my relationship with Robin grew in depth and intimacy you felt jilted making your collaboration with our tour virtually impossible. So that is my lament, but to quote my favorite Palestinian client: Business is business. I have a number of things I hope to get your advice about, as you know I've recently found myself in that brand new state of original consciousness you and your teammates are so familiar with. I had planned to seek Robins advice (he, IMO, being the granddaddy of the whole (ness) shebang), but I'm a little concerned about the over all stability of his recent re-cognition and it might be advisable to wait till it settles a bit---his being a little more like an early Californian that could be considered a touch fruity if corked too early. In addition---despite his recent return to Unity--- he seems pre-occupied with a new movie (Working title THE FIXER UPPER) in the bowels of the FFL archives with our one and only truth commissioner. He wants me to get involved but frankly I'm not sure it has legs (please don't tell him that because unlike some others on FFL he has feelings). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGpSNQurRQ In preparation for this exchange, I went back over some of your recent posts, figuringfor someone I'm seriously considering as a disciple, I should at least be prepared. In the process of reviewing these recent posts I was disturbed to come across a thread called Moving to LA”. Don’t get me wrong, your move itself was not disturbing---as much as we hate to lose you from the Bay Area, LA needs all the enlightened help it can get. No, what disturbed me---on a thread with such a high post count, was that no one had the intestinal fortitude to approach the pink elephant in the room. So as your #1 admirer, and possible dispeller of darkness, I have to bring it up no matter how much easier it would be to pretend it's not an issue. So here goes. What about your therapist, is he planning to move with you? I have to say finding an effective therapist is not as easy as Hollywood would have us believe, and my God your therapist has helped you make some strides. I mean he's helped you virtually eliminate the depressing half of your manic depression. The transformation has been so complete I've wanted to ask you his contact details. Granted, he hasn't been nearly as effective with your tourette's, but I'm guessing he has a whole strategy for that, and now you're pulling up stakes and heading south. I just want to make sure; you're sure? That said, I have to confirm how much I've been enjoying your management of your tourette's. I think blending profanity with the scared is a brilliant strategy. For some reason it reminds me of the time I met OSHO at the Hyatt in New Delhi,---I believe you met him also---right after they threw him out of Oregon. I was there negotiating a contract for Abu Dhabi with Engineers India LTD. (now those guys knew how to drink). As I'm sure you know, at that time, the sixth floor of the Hyatt was a hotel within a hotel with a lounge for business types that served free drinks 24 hours a day. OSHO arrived the second night of my stay---he was on his way to Pune, and took half of the sixth floor. That would have been impressive enough, but what really impressed me was that he dropped by the lounge late one night (everyone but him being three sheets to wind) and basically shot the s**t while he polished off some juice. A lovely man, not afraid of an off color joke, and I'm sure a very
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
you can say that again. From: RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:11:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] * * Being nothing, I give birth to all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Who you calling a: liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow -Luke 9:58 From: RoryGoff rorygoff@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:35:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Put my hands over my ears and sing La La La I can't HEAR you! 8. Put my hands over my eyes and drive up my own backside, Uroborically speaking. 7. Tell everyone who I think is worth listening to and who isn't, who I think is enlightened and who isn't, and who I think is right and who isn't. 6. Yell, I'm NOT a poopy-pants! YOU are! 5. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all bozos on this bus. 4. Remind everyone over and over again that we are all motormouths on this bus. 3. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all already Awake on this bus. 2. Remind everyone over and over again that there is no we, there is no Awake, and there is no bus. 1. Remind myself over and over again that reminding myself over and over again that we have always and ever been an ordinary lying slimeball poopy-pants batshit-crazy tar-baby Maharishi-loving crypto-Buddhist fundamentalist-Christian CIA-serving fascist secessionist dualist nondualist Trinitarian Unitarian Aditarian Enneadist neo-Advaita paleo-Advaita liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow bi-now-gay-later commie capitalist idealist materialist expansionist reductionist mean-spirited arrogant irrelevant wanna-be charlatan motormouth is what it's all about, and don't forget to thank everyone for the wonderful ride. . Â
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
* * Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: you can say that again. From: RoryGoff rorygoff@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:11:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] * * Being nothing, I give birth to all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Who you calling a: liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow -Luke 9:58 From: RoryGoff rorygoff@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:35:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. 9. Put my hands over my ears and sing La La La I can't HEAR you! 8. Put my hands over my eyes and drive up my own backside, Uroborically speaking. 7. Tell everyone who I think is worth listening to and who isn't, who I think is enlightened and who isn't, and who I think is right and who isn't. 6. Yell, I'm NOT a poopy-pants! YOU are! 5. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all bozos on this bus. 4. Remind everyone over and over again that we are all motormouths on this bus. 3. Remind everyone over and over again that we're all already Awake on this bus. 2. Remind everyone over and over again that there is no we, there is no Awake, and there is no bus. 1. Remind myself over and over again that reminding myself over and over again that we have always and ever been an ordinary lying slimeball poopy-pants batshit-crazy tar-baby Maharishi-loving crypto-Buddhist fundamentalist-Christian CIA-serving fascist secessionist dualist nondualist Trinitarian Unitarian Aditarian Enneadist neo-Advaita paleo-Advaita liberal femiNazi chauvinist straight-arrow bi-now-gay-later commie capitalist idealist materialist expansionist reductionist mean-spirited arrogant irrelevant wanna-be charlatan motormouth is what it's all about, and don't forget to thank everyone for the wonderful ride. . Â Â ÃÂ Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
On 09/12/2011 01:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to replay all of the events of 9/11, I think it's important for at least one voice on this forum to point out that in spiritual terms what we're talking about is classic attachment to a set of afflictive emotions, and a conscious attempt to *stay* attached. 9/11 inspired for Americans a very real and palpable sense of several afflictive emotions -- fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge. ALL of these emotions have basically defined the national character of the United States Of America in the ten years since the event. Indulging in these afflictive emotions has cost the country its stature, its credibility, its civil liberties, trillions of dollars, thousands of lost lives, the bankruptcy of its economy, and more. So what does the country -- aided by the same media that supported its unconscionable post-9/11 wars and loss of its own liberties -- DO when confronted by the ten-year anniversary of 9/11? They stage an over-the-top media frenzy, the very *idea* of which is to get viewers to wallow in the afflictive emotions of the original event as much as humanly possible, to bring them to the top of everyone's emotional processing stack, and activate them again. Starting to feel as if there is more to life than fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge? That's UnAmerican. Watch these videos, and you'll be politically correct again, wallowing in the same afflictive emotions you've been wallowing in for the last ten years. GOTTA perpetuate the fear. GOTTA perpetuate the anger. GOTTA perpetuate the outrage. GOTTA perpetuate the desire for revenge. Just GOTTA. It's the American way. The Spanish got over having one of their bullet trains bombed by terrorists in a month, without descending into the maelstrom of hate and lashing out that America did. The British public did mostly the same thing w.r.t. the bombings in the London Underground (mostly...its government went the other direction, and tried to emulate the American way of indulgence in these afflictive emotions). Americans? They just seem to want more of the same. I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. And I also suspect that as a result many in yesterday's audience are as established in wallowing in the same afflictive emotions today as they were on 9/12/2001. THAT, in my opinion, was the whole point. Blame the media. Actually yesterday the football game had a lot of viewers as people preferred that over wallowing in the maya on 9/11. A lot of people in this country have moved on from the emotional aspect of 9/11 and some of us just insist that the real story be told and the true criminals be brought to justice. Never should such a crime go unpunished. I only listened to only one wallowing show and that was comedian Brian Copeland's Sunday morning show on KGO. I just tuned in as I do every Sunday to see what he was talking about. Brian is someone however that turns into Data from STNG when 9/11 conspiracies are brought up and he has a Mr. Everyman persona so had to wallow. The other 9/11 shows I listened to were on Friday night Gene Burns when I checked to see what he was going to talk about said he was going to do a show on 9/11 conspiracies. He was unprepared to say the least. He had some great calls including one from a professor at Berkeley who explained to him thermite, it's chemical composition and how it could have been painted on beams in the towers prior to 9/11. Burns, infected with the Data does not compute disease had some pretty ludicrous improvised replies to some callers. And most callers turned out to be very grounded with a lot of facts at their disposal. The other two shows were Thom Hartmann's special show yesterday afternoon which was an intelligent discussion and of course I had to listen to what Alex Jones would be up to for the day. Neither were wallowing shows. People may like to call me a conspiracy theorist if they want but it's all line on water to me. Frankly sometimes it just damn fun to post the stuff and watch the reactions. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRTK9Ztz_K4 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Motoring with a motormouth. I'm sure we've all had the pleasure of motoring with a motormouth. I'm wondering what techniques my fellow posters on FFL might employ to defend their sincerity in this situation. Hope the top 10 format works for everyone: 10. Run over a pedestrian. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:21:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not, but he is saving himself a lot of work by not engaging. It is really amazing how much energy is required to maintain the world of our thought intact against an outer world that does not quite ever seem to fit in with them. And wouldn't give a shit if we managed TO maintain the world of our thought. NOTHING in the universe cares if our self wins an argument but that self. ...I think you spend a much greater amount of energy maintaining your world view than Barry does, and whatever else he may be or does, in regard to the forum, he has the advantage of conserving his energy because he doesn't care. He seems to be able to take and leave a point of view. Exactly. You seem to care, and that means you have to maintain a point of view. One of the things that Xeno didn't really touch on but that I will, springboarding off of his foundation, is not just the amount of energy that the compulsive defender of a world view requires to defend her POV, but the amount of energy she expects the people she is arguing with to expend. It's downright RUDE to be constantly trying to lure people into tarbaby arguments that you then don't allow them to leave. The two worst offenders on this forum are classic examples of this. Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled to reply in 200 words, sometimes more, taunting the original poster into getting into it with them, and defending his or her offending statement. If the original poster is foolish enough TO get into it with either of these motormouths, that's just the start of it; both of these compulsive arguers will try to keep the argument going for as long as humanly possible, and will go so far as to insult the victim if he or she tries to escape. Classic tarbaby scenario; Uncle Remus would be proud. OK, it's obvious that this behavior indicates that the people who provoke such arguments have no clue about how much energy it takes for *them* to do it. My point is that they don't even for a moment consider the amount of energy it requires of their *victims* to participate in it. Their whole world view seems to be, OF COURSE it's worth your time and energy to argue with me; I'm worth it, because...uh...because I'm ME! It's totally ego-based, with no care whatsoever for whether the other person considers the point being argued about important or considers the person trying to lure them into an argument important. The only important thing for these two compulsive motormouths -- as far as I can tell, from my POV -- is that people focus on them, read every word they write, and are willing to be sucked into long arguments about the things they write. Bzzzt. Can you say NOT WORTH MY TIME? I think you can. Think of the energy saved by just realizing what these people are up to, what their game is, and then refusing to play. I never have to expend any of my energy even reading the stuff they write, much less arguing about it. I can instead spend whatever energy I wish to devote to this forum bouncing off of ideas like the ones you brought up in this series of posts and having fun with them. As you say, I don't have to argue about my having fun posts, or defend anything I say in them, I can just write them for fun. Thanks for writing -- and acting -- in such a way as to make that possible, Xeno. It's the polar opposite of what both Judy and Robin do. Â
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: PS: WTF does shibboleth mean? That's Robin Williams at the end of the comedy routine you posted, stoned, trying to pronounce Shit for brains. Either that or a guy with a lisp trying to express the opposite of shibbomore.
[FairfieldLife] High medical costs decrease 28% after 5 years of TM
From: Ken Chawkin kchaw...@mum.edu Public Release: 12-Sep-2011 American Journal of Health Promotion http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-09/rm-hmc09.phpHigh medical costs decrease 28 percent after 5 years of transcendental meditation practice According to a study published this week in the September/October 2011 issue of the American Journal of Health Promotion (Vol. 26, No. 1, pp. 56-60), people with consistently high health care costs experienced a 28 percent cumulative decrease in physician fees after an average of five years practicing the stress-reducing Transcendental Meditation technique compared with their baseline. Both between and within group comparisons were statistically significant. This study has major policy implications. Contact: Ken Chawkin mailto:kchaw...@mum.edukchaw...@mum.edu 641-472-4037 Roth Media
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 09/12/2011 01:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. Blame the media. Actually yesterday the football game had a lot of viewers as people preferred that over wallowing in the maya on 9/11. If anyone in America still watches TV shows in real time, I would imagine that the season finale of True Blood must have drawn away a few viewers as well. That and a good episode of Breaking Bad, in which Jesse grows a pair.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:31 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Sal, You refer to my childishness, my insulting him amongst themselves, and that this is mean-spirited and desperate. That it is sad, really. Although I have enjoyed a somewhat cheerful exchange of posts in the past with you, I am going to hold you accountable for the absurdity of every one of these charges and characterizations of my posts regarding your friend. I know Barry the same way most others do here. First of all, there is not one word you have used to describe what I did that comes from your experience. In order to make believable such a judgment as you have made, you have to demonstrate that you have made contact with an experience out of which these words arise. You haven't done this. You have instead, decided to construe my posts within a point of view which is predetermined and non-interactive with the reality of what those posts are. WTF?? This is my *opinion,* Robin~~ of course it isn't set in stone. I could care less if it's believable for anyone else or not. If you think I'm raving and making stuff up out of whole cloth, that is certainly your right. I challenge you to tell demonstrate anything in what I wrote about your friend which in any way whatsoever warrants any of the words you have applied to my posts (about him). Many of your posts do Robin, in which you, over and over, refer to him in the third person and engage in other not-so-nice tactics. That is my *opinion.* This is a serious moral and existential failure on your part to do justice to the spirit within which I wrote those posts about your friend. I'll live. I deny categorically that anything you say here is true, and if there is the slightest truth in what you say, then you should experience, in reading this post, the false relationship that exists between my implicit justification of those posts (the honourability of my intention, as well as the substance of what I wrote) and those posts as they registered inside of you when you read them. Just because you object to what someone has said about someone you like, It has nothing to do with objecting to what someone has said about Barry or anyone else. It's just basic fairness vs. tactics that are *not.* Methinks if you got over your need to twist what I wrote every which way and just looked at your take on Barry the way someone not privy to your every thought-process might, that maybe you'd understand better where I was coming from. Or not. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
* * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: snip It has nothing to do with objecting to what someone has said about Barry or anyone else. It's just basic fairness vs. tactics that are *not.* It's just mind-boggling. Barry, of course, *more than anyone else on FFL*, uses tactics that Sal here characterizes as not fair when anyone but Barry uses them--specifically, piling on and putting people down indirectly, both of which he's used several times now on Robin. Moreover, those very same tactics were used *by Sal herself* in the post that started this discussion, as well as many times in the past. Methinks if you got over your need to twist what I wrote every which way and just looked at your take on Barry the way someone not privy to your every thought-process might, that maybe you'd understand better where I was coming from. Or not. Stupid Sal, it isn't possible to understand where you're coming from, because what you say makes no sense.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 9/11 Anniversary As A Metaphor For Attachment
On 09/12/2011 09:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 09/12/2011 01:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the highest ratings of any TV shows in years. Blame the media. Actually yesterday the football game had a lot of viewers as people preferred that over wallowing in the maya on 9/11. If anyone in America still watches TV shows in real time, I would imagine that the season finale of True Blood must have drawn away a few viewers as well. That and a good episode of Breaking Bad, in which Jesse grows a pair. Yup, saw both but not in real time. Breaking Bad has commercials is on at 8 PM so I often get around to watching the recording in progress on the DVR around 8:20 and skip commercials. That means I also start watching True Blood, on at 9 PM, on delay too. What is cool about the DVR is you can back up with the 15-second replay (even watching realtime) if you want to listen again to what someone said or did. That's so cool that it along with the 30-second forward skip I would like to see implemented on Bluray players because so many of us have become used them and rewind and fast forward buttons aren't quite the same thing. HBO is now promoting Enlightened which begins October 10th. In the promo, Laura Dern, who plays a woman who believes she is enlightened at one point get told she's crazy by a coworker. This should be a fun show for FFLers. This week some new series and season begin. Sarah Gellar has a new one called Ringer on the CW. Another season of Fringe starts up too.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. What's sort of unbelievable, really, is that what Sal was indignantly responding to was Robin's complaint about the post of Sal's in which she accuses him and others of having to go at [Barry] indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. Mean-spirited and desperate. Sad, really. IOW, exactly what Stupid Sal herself does above to Robin. *And it never occurs to her that there's anything wrong with it*. It never occurs to her (or Barry) that she (and Barry) should be subject to the same rules of conduct that she criticizes others for not observing. What on earth could be the source of this striking psychopathology? Is it a biological malfunction in the brain? Or malignant narcissism? Sad, really.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. I honestly suspect that a few of these folks (you know who we're talking about) honestly *can't conceive* of anyone not reading every word of their posts. After all, they read every word of every post of the people *they're* obsessed with. They assume that others are equally obsessed with them, because...uh...well, because they're just so special and all. :-) What I love are the ones who imagine that they're having a dialogue with people who stopped reading their posts (except for the first few words you can't avoid in the time it takes to hit the Next key) in months. It reminds me of the Sarah McLachlan story of the obsessed fan who was stalking her whose claim was that every song on every album she released was written directly to and about him. She finally did write a song about him (called Possession) and reported him to the police. He did time.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-) I'm curious to know whether anyone here has ever encountered a word-counting utility that requires one to read the words it counts. ;-) RESPONSE: pure inspiration.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-) I'm curious to know whether anyone here has ever encountered a word-counting utility that requires one to read the words it counts. ;-) Judy, That means he's got nothing else better to do than count words posted by others, as Nabs brilliantly deduced.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: I am currently watching the Rugby World Cup from New Zealand, where the All Blacks (New Zealand) are the heavy favourites. You and me both, O Great Zebra. I use to play rugby. I came to the game late, so I never really developed the skill set that I did in a few other sports. But I came to love the game, and eventually to recognize that it transcended every other sport. Now why am I bringing up the topic of rugby here? Because reading this post of yours three times put me in the mind (and body) of someone who had been perfectly tackled by an All Black blind-side flanker (that's the position I used to play). Ah so - you're really more of a lion than a zebra? In my youth I was a winger, an unmasked zebra - one of the 'girls' out on the wing. I used to try to run like the wind to escape the crunching clutches of the likes of you. http://youtu.be/C3_008814Eo
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: I am currently watching the Rugby World Cup from New Zealand, where the All Blacks (New Zealand) are the heavy favourites. You and me both, O Great Zebra. I use to play rugby. I came to the game late, so I never really developed the skill set that I did in a few other sports. But I came to love the game, and eventually to recognize that it transcended every other sport. Now why am I bringing up the topic of rugby here? Because reading this post of yours three times put me in the mind (and body) of someone who had been perfectly tackled by an All Black blind-side flanker (that's the position I used to play). Ah so - you're really more of a lion than a zebra? In my youth I was a winger, an unmasked zebra - one of the 'girls' out on the wing. I used to try to run like the wind to escape the crunching clutches of the likes of you. http://youtu.be/C3_008814Eo RESPONSE: Go figure. The happiest FFL post experience I have had.
[FairfieldLife] Vedic Engineering
MMY explains how the galaxy can enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/user/maharishichannel?blend=1ob=5#p/u/0/rIGqavgWuM4
[FairfieldLife] 30 gifts to 30 strangers in Sydney
For a smile... Watch here: http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/09/12/video-mid-day-distraction-30-gifts-30-strangers/
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words Another boring day in the life of the Turqo; counting words. :-) I'm curious to know whether anyone here has ever encountered a word-counting utility that requires one to read the words it counts. ;-) Judy, That means he's got nothing else better to do than count words posted by others, as Nabs brilliantly deduced. Er, right. I think the point of my question may have been too subtle. I was amused that Barry felt the need to *explain* to us that his word-counting utility allowed him to count words without reading them, as if there were word-counting utilities that *did* require one to read the words. For that matter, it was funny enough that he had to announce he had used a word-counting utility at all, as if he feared we might think he had done it manually.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Loved it, thanks. Backacha! Jesus and Vishnu on Christmas eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Too worked up metabolically. Serenity, irony, quiet confidence, respecting what makes it hard for some people to take the idea of macroevolution as proven: much better. If someone was holding out for flat earth theory, how would be treat that person? Not like this. Brilliant as it is. Some people want macroevolution to be true so much they become much too aggressive and abusive in their denunciation of the persons (like John Lennon) who balked at the sweeping claims of Darwin. This is evidence of metaphysical anxiety: You mean macroevolution might not be true? I don't think it has been proven beyond the right to ask question about it. Although microevolution is a no-brainer. As for the Christmas boast of Christ, I think Jesus prevails here. He has all the cards. However facetiously presented, his arguments against Krishna win out for me. It's a bloody good argument. Besides where does your irresistible love of Christmas come from, Curtis? Me: I say it comes from the fact that it is true. God became a tiny infant. If only he was around somewhere now. I'd like to hear his response to Rick's post. Smugnessabout anythingit is a dangerous thing. Sounds a little like an Oral Roberts prayer tent with the ritual denunciation of the evils of atheismalthough Oral never got that good of course. And didn't know the first thing about irony. Or beauty. Jesus, you there? Nope. But we still celebrate your birthday. Krishna, you could have done a lot better. What happened? Hey, Curtis. I like that you like Christmas. No neurobiological explanation there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=LJYLT9TbRew
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 in under 5 minutes
On 09/11/2011 08:08 PM, seekliberation wrote: I saw the video, and have seen a lot of 9/11 conspiracy theory videos. I used to watch them obsessively. However, this video is an example of how conspiracy theorists lose credibility. One of his comments are how easy it would've been to get F-18's up in the air to take down a commercial airplane within 1 hour. The person who made the video apparently doesn't understand what a 'strip alert' is, nor the difficulty of communicating between all agencies (pilot, air traffic control, and pentagon). Even if a target is stationary, and the ground controller and pilot are both on the same sheet of music, it can still take a long time for a pilot to lock on to his target. Therefore, the theory that F-18's could've gone in the sky and shot down the 747's in a matter of seconds/minutes is only a theory by someone who is neither a pilot or an experienced ground controller. The airliners weren't 747s. And what is the basis of your theory? I have not heard such from fighter pilots interviewed. The destruction of official records was intriguing and very suspect in my opinion. But then he states how easy it should've been to track Bin Laden down with what he seems to consider an 'omipotent' intelligence network. So in addition to not talking to pilots or combat air traffic controllers, he also failed to talk to anyone trained in military surveillance operations in order to determine how easy or difficult it is to track down a terrorist in a country like Pakistan. Finding a specific man in a country full of radical muslims who will ambush and kill us is not an easy task. We've been after Mullah Omar for even longer than Bin Laden, and we still can't find him. And they may not want to because keeping a bogeyman around is handy to keep the sheeple in fear. And I do assume you know that supposedly Osama was killed in Tora Bora in early 2002 but there were not enough remains for the US to claim the kill. Having outlived his bogeyman usefulness they concocted the recent raid. After all, the crying wolf over faked videos of Bin Laden this late in the day wasn't working out. He also goes into some theory that Seal Team 6 who killed bin laden was killed later in a helo crash, hinting that our government wanted Bin Laden's killers killed. Again, failure to look into things, there are about 200 operators in Seal Team 6. The same guys who killed bin laden weren't necessarily the same guys in that helo, and it is very unlikely that they were. The time tables don't work out for deployment schedules for them to be the same team. Bin Laden was killed in May. That team is no longer deployed. The team that was killed a couple weeks ago has to be a different team. Also, there were Rangers, Afghan forces, and other spec ops units involved in the operation where Seal team 6 personell were killed. They all would've had to be a part of getting seal team 6 killed if there is a conspiracy with their death. Rangers and special forces killing members of Seal Team 6??? These guys are like brothers to each other, they're not going to kill their own guys! Again that's your theory In the military there's orders. You do know there is a story that the team died in the helicopter crash leaving the Pakistan raid. So they used a later crash as a coverup. You might want to read this article by journalist Russ Baker who has issues with the way the story kept changing: http://whowhatwhy.com/2011/08/17/raidbinladen/ I can tell by this video that public perception is that we have an extremely powerful and competent military that is capable of doing and accomplishing anything it sets its mind to. That is a false perception; there is a mass incompetence in the military, and solid reasons why Bill Clinton and George Bush failed on numerous occasions to kill Bin Laden. Or they were given stand down orders. Bogeymen are handy. I know there are reasons to believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, but people need to do more research and only present facts that can be backed up by people who actually know something about the subject being criticized or used as information to back up a theory. Otherwise you risk having your valid points being mistrusted due to other blatantly false theories being presented. What about WTC 7? That was very definitely a demolition and obviously prepped well before the day. Some think that Flight 93 was supposed to crash into. How convenient that a lot of fraud investigations were destroyed in the process. Some even think that WTC 7 was the true target and the towers a diversion tactic. WTC 7 is the smoking gun because fires wouldn't have destroyed or made it collapse... on its own footprint. We know firemen were advised the building was going to be pulled. The main power of the video is to get people looking into the ridiculousness of the official story.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. I honestly suspect that a few of these folks (you know who we're talking about) honestly *can't conceive* of anyone not reading every word of their posts. And I honestly suspect Barry knows better. snip What I love are the ones who imagine that they're having a dialogue with people who stopped reading their posts (except for the first few words you can't avoid in the time it takes to hit the Next key) in months. Another of Barry's fond fantasies. Note that it sets up a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't double bind: If we write the post as if addressing him directly, it's because we're delusional. If we don't, we're going at him indirectly, which Stupid Sal has so eloquently characterized, utterly oblivious to the double standard, as unfair. Me, I write 'em as the mood strikes me, directly or indirectly. Sometimes a post seems to call for direct address, other times indirect works better. Sometimes I'll switch from one to the other in a single post. Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has had to bite his fingers to keep from responding. One way or the other, the arrangement suits me just fine: he's made it impossible for himself to deliver a rebuttal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: snip RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Don't know about that, but the guy gets it wrong about the Bible never saying Jesus turned into a chicken. At least, the Bible says Jesus *wished* he could turn into a chicken: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!--Matt. 23:37
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
* * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Loved it, thanks. Backacha! Jesus and Vishnu on Christmas eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Too worked up metabolically. Serenity, irony, quiet confidence, respecting what makes it hard for some people to take the idea of macroevolution as proven: much better. Agreed. It needed a final edit and cooler delivery to be more effective communication. But that said, I know plenty of guys like this and it doesn't really mean anything about the content of what he is saying. It is our emotional reaction to to a person being too self indulgent that makes it poor communication. He went to far into the dickish lane for me too. If someone was holding out for flat earth theory, how would be treat that person? Not like this. Brilliant as it is. Some people want macroevolution to be true so much they become much too aggressive and abusive in their denunciation of the persons (like John Lennon) who balked at the sweeping claims of Darwin. This is evidence of metaphysical anxiety: You mean macroevolution might not be true? I don't think it has been proven beyond the right to ask question about it. Although microevolution is a no-brainer. There are questions within the thoery that are still being discussed. And the understanding has advanced far beyond Darwin's initial formulation due to the spirit of questioning. In this year's election this is gunna be a lowest bar litmus test for me. If you understand science, you understand how the theory of evolution is the basis for our whole understanding of biology. It is is more than key. As for the Christmas boast of Christ, I think Jesus prevails here. He has all the cards. However facetiously presented, his arguments against Krishna win out for me. It's a bloody good argument. Besides where does your irresistible love of Christmas come from, Curtis? Well we have to be realistic that most of what I love about Christmas is not Christan but Druid and Mithra worship. My neurons got bribed into it pretty early. But I still enjoy the nativity myth perhaps even more so now that I know some of the sources it was cannibalized from historically. These are archetypes to be enjoyed. Me: I say it comes from the fact that it is true. God became a tiny infant. I would go with: God becomes every tiny infant. Jesus was really not so unique in his time. There were other messianic guys whose philosophies were less able to be turned into an empire builder for Constantine, but who in their time were as popular as Jesus during his life. If only he was around somewhere now. I'd like to hear his response to Rick's post. Smugnessabout anythingit is a dangerous thing. Sounds a little like an Oral Roberts prayer tent with the ritual denunciation of the evils of atheismalthough Oral never got that good of course. And didn't know the first thing about irony. Or beauty. Jesus, you there? Nope. But we still celebrate your birthday. Krishna, you could have done a lot better. What happened? Hey, Curtis. I like that you like Christmas. No neurobiological explanation there. Neuron bribing pure and simple! My folks took the Santa thing seriously and we were very spoiled at Christmas. A purer form of Christmas spirit is the feeling I get when I hear, walking along crunching on new snow, in my Pocono mountain hometown, the clear song of a Chickadee through the pine trees. It is my version of a Christmas carol and always means Joy to the World to me. Oh yeah, and German Lebkuchen Christmas cookies washed down with a little Balvenie doublewood single malt. (the fist aging is in oak bourbon casks, the second in port wine casks) Now THAT is the body and blood of Christ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=LJYLT9TbRew
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
*hei Rory i read you bio ... very good...Are you enlightened?* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com ** * * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. I honestly suspect that a few of these folks (you know who we're talking about) honestly *can't conceive* of anyone not reading every word of their posts. And I honestly suspect Barry knows better. snip What I love are the ones who imagine that they're having a dialogue with people who stopped reading their posts (except for the first few words you can't avoid in the time it takes to hit the Next key) in months. Another of Barry's fond fantasies. Note that it sets up a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't double bind: If we write the post as if addressing him directly, it's because we're delusional. If we don't, we're going at him indirectly, which Stupid Sal has so eloquently characterized, utterly oblivious to the double standard, as unfair. Me, I write 'em as the mood strikes me, directly or indirectly. Sometimes a post seems to call for direct address, other times indirect works better. Sometimes I'll switch from one to the other in a single post. Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has had to bite his fingers to keep from responding. One way or the other, the arrangement suits me just fine: he's made it impossible for himself to deliver a rebuttal. RESPONSE: Dear FFL Readers: Judy has attacked the logic, the coherence, the sincerity, the truth of everything that Barry has said. If you are an honest person (and you have any regard for Barry) I consider you all cowards and phoneys if you don't stick up for Barry by taking Judy on. Judy has gone to the extremebut it my mind at least, it is where the truth has led her. Where is the outrage, the honour, the justice felt by those who, since they believe Judy's criticisms unwarranted, would defend and vindicate the good name of their friend? If no one dares to answer Judy, I will assume that she is right. Because if she were not right, I can't imagine, if I were a friend of Barry's, allowing her to do what she has done with pefect impunity. Judy speaks, and she relentlessly goes at her target. But she seems eminently reasonable in all this. She is simply holding Barry accountable for his actions. It is a very strange kind of martyrdom to (if you are Barry or one of his friends) that allows that martyrdom to be proclaimed by this sullen silence. I say Judy is just teaching the moral alphabet. She is so vehement and precise in her challenge to Barry; if she were even slightly off, she would look ridiculous, and her inner hatred and envy would be obvious. And yet it is not. Conclusion (you there, Sal?): Until someone refutes her, I will have to assume she has hit her mark. And hit her mark again and again and again. So far, she has not missed. It seems also that she is trying to do Barry a favour. What say you FFL readers: why has not someone come to the defence of Barry by turning on Judy? I am beginning to doubt the American spirit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
* * Glad you liked it, Marcelo. I am exactly as you see me; I will happily support any story you like ... up to a point :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: *hei Rory i read you bio ... very good...Are you enlightened?* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Loved it, thanks. Backacha! Jesus and Vishnu on Christmas eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Too worked up metabolically. Serenity, irony, quiet confidence, respecting what makes it hard for some people to take the idea of macroevolution as proven: much better. Agreed. It needed a final edit and cooler delivery to be more effective communication. But that said, I know plenty of guys like this and it doesn't really mean anything about the content of what he is saying. It is our emotional reaction to to a person being too self indulgent that makes it poor communication. He went to far into the dickish lane for me too. If someone was holding out for flat earth theory, how would be treat that person? Not like this. Brilliant as it is. Some people want macroevolution to be true so much they become much too aggressive and abusive in their denunciation of the persons (like John Lennon) who balked at the sweeping claims of Darwin. This is evidence of metaphysical anxiety: You mean macroevolution might not be true? I don't think it has been proven beyond the right to ask question about it. Although microevolution is a no-brainer. There are questions within the thoery that are still being discussed. And the understanding has advanced far beyond Darwin's initial formulation due to the spirit of questioning. In this year's election this is gunna be a lowest bar litmus test for me. If you understand science, you understand how the theory of evolution is the basis for our whole understanding of biology. It is is more than key. As for the Christmas boast of Christ, I think Jesus prevails here. He has all the cards. However facetiously presented, his arguments against Krishna win out for me. It's a bloody good argument. Besides where does your irresistible love of Christmas come from, Curtis? Well we have to be realistic that most of what I love about Christmas is not Christan but Druid and Mithra worship. My neurons got bribed into it pretty early. But I still enjoy the nativity myth perhaps even more so now that I know some of the sources it was cannibalized from historically. These are archetypes to be enjoyed. Me: I say it comes from the fact that it is true. God became a tiny infant. I would go with: God becomes every tiny infant. Jesus was really not so unique in his time. There were other messianic guys whose philosophies were less able to be turned into an empire builder for Constantine, but who in their time were as popular as Jesus during his life. If only he was around somewhere now. I'd like to hear his response to Rick's post. Smugnessabout anythingit is a dangerous thing. Sounds a little like an Oral Roberts prayer tent with the ritual denunciation of the evils of atheismalthough Oral never got that good of course. And didn't know the first thing about irony. Or beauty. Jesus, you there? Nope. But we still celebrate your birthday. Krishna, you could have done a lot better. What happened? Hey, Curtis. I like that you like Christmas. No neurobiological explanation there. Neuron bribing pure and simple! My folks took the Santa thing seriously and we were very spoiled at Christmas. A purer form of Christmas spirit is the feeling I get when I hear, walking along crunching on new snow, in my Pocono mountain hometown, the clear song of a Chickadee through the pine trees. It is my version of a Christmas carol and always means Joy to the World to me. Oh yeah, and German Lebkuchen Christmas cookies washed down with a little Balvenie doublewood single malt. (the fist aging is in oak bourbon casks, the second in port wine casks) Now THAT is the body and blood of Christ! RESPONSE: Ah that All Black tackling machine: CurtisDeltaBlues. I deny life is the way you apprehend it, Curtisand therefore your arguments, while marvellous and hard-hittingand charming beyond all conceiving are wrong. I have to tackle you once in a while. Because you, you don't go down, no matter how hard you are hit. That gentle, loving, merciful heart I have felt in the past, sometimes it contracts. Please let yourself be (contingently) proven wrong by life, as I will always be willing to be proven wrong by life. I feel it is an honour to know you, Curtis. But you, in the end, have had the effect on me of stiffening my sinews and summoning up my blood. Still, I can't think of anyone in the world (yeah, that's right) whose perception of something I would rather hear about than your own. But don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
I really liked her story .. I read many sites about you however you are enlightened? you can do or say something to me .. ? give me some direction because I need it ... you has msn id? or yahoo id? 2011/9/12 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com ** * * Glad you liked it, Marcelo. I am exactly as you see me; I will happily support any story you like ... up to a point :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: *hei Rory i read you bio ... very good...Are you enlightened?* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
materializes things you? 2011/9/12 Marcelo rosa tmer1...@gmail.com I really liked her story .. I read many sites about you however you are enlightened? you can do or say something to me .. ? give me some direction because I need it ... you has msn id? or yahoo id? 2011/9/12 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com ** * * Glad you liked it, Marcelo. I am exactly as you see me; I will happily support any story you like ... up to a point :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: *hei Rory i read you bio ... very good...Are you enlightened?* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. HaHa, post of the week ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Engineering
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: MMY explains how the galaxy can enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/user/maharishichannel?blend=1ob=5#p/u/0/rIGqavgWuM4 Brilliant ! Thanks for posting this
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
And I thought I was going to have a few days off from this place. [comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I find it fascinating that you focus on my purported emotional projections onto Barry, while completely ignoring Barry's own tendency to project. I was posting via a post you had written, and to give what I wanted to say some kind of point of view, that seemed to me to be the point of view to take. Barry obviously does mention others in his posts and makes comments about them. Don't feel like you have been picked out for persecution. If 10 vehicles are going 75 in a 50 miles per hour zone and one gets ticketed out of the group for speeding and the other get off free, it might just be the fall of the dice. Ah, I see, you claim to be a cop qualified to discern who is guilty of infractions and hand out tickets. But you seem to be carrying around a loaded pair of dice, because this is hardly the only time you've singled me out. First of all I was responding to a post you had written. I was questioning some of the things you said in the post. I am not a cop. The traffic ticket example was an analogy; I was not handing out tickets. If ten drivers are speeding over the limit, a policeman normally can only catch one of them as they pass by, and one is unlucky and the others get off scott free. Like a lion and gazelles, one in the herd gets it, and the others are untouched; the unlucky one just happened to be closest to the edge of the heard that day. You are standing in a crowd of ten people, and the one mosquito in the area bites you and not the others. Another day, something else happens, or maybe nothing happens. There was nothing personal except that it was your post I responded to. Look, Xeno, I could not possibly be less interested in taking enlightenment lessons from you. You do not have to take anything from me. You can ignore me. I happen to like to talk about enlightenment. Fairfield Life seems to be a forum where people talk about enlightenment. You can ignore with the same indifference as Barry. Since my name is attached to the posts I make, you can use that as an identifier and not look at posts with that name. If you want to engage me in the realm of duality, you will (a) come down from the mountain; I am not on a mountain. I am just an ordinary person. I am almost on ground level; there seems to bit a bit of wood and concrete just below me though. Why is it you have fashioned this as a command? (b) observe duality's rules of fair play; I was not aware that duality had rules of fair play. If our modern ideas about the universe are correct, it all averages out in the end, but the universe is not entirely uniform, it is lumpy; there are statistical anomalies, meaning there are events on the far ends of the bell curve. So sometimes evil triumphs and good is trampled underfoot and the innocent are imprisoned and executed while the guilty get off, and live lives of plenty. Duality is what I presume (correctly presume I hope) is what we are trying to get away from on this forum. We are hoping to experience the world as a unity, not as a collection of Lego blocks stacked together in some incomprehensible fashion. and (c) not retreat back up the mountain to avoid dealing with the issues you've raised. Otherwise, I don't recognize your authority to hand out tickets. As I said, I did not hand out any tickets. You have not been cited. Have I made myself perfectly clear? Typically you are clear. snip So, do you feel you project your inner feelings and musings and ideas onto others as you discuss them, or do you feel you do not do this? Not anywhere near as much as you imagine. I am not sure how much I imagine about this because I do not have any yardstick to measure. I am making a presumption that you do this which does not specify the quantity of the article under consideration so a relative measure is not possible. The question above was not how much you do this, but whether *you* feel you do this or do not do this. I think I was asking for a self analysis, and if I had specified it more precisely, I would have asked how much you yourself feel emotion intrudes into your arguments, and perhaps under what circumstances that proportion might increase. I might point out that some of us here have had much longer experience with Barry than you have. He can be very impressive at first blush because of his skill with words, but ultimately that skill fails to hide a barrenness and lack of authenticity, as well as a profoundly malicious hostility toward most other people. Yes, Barry is skilful, and I have experienced what I would call hostility from him, but I do not regard
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: snip RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Don't know about that, but the guy gets it wrong about the Bible never saying Jesus turned into a chicken. At least, the Bible says Jesus *wished* he could turn into a chicken: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!--Matt. 23:37 Nairobi will be the new Jerusalem - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: I really liked her story .. I read many sites about you however you are enlightened? you can do or say something to me .. ? give me some direction because I need it ... My advice to you is: Get a checking of your meditation from a teacher of Transcendental Meditation Marcelo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
ahh good my TM pratice is ok , all rigjt ... no problem ... thankyou for u advice 2011/9/12 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: I really liked her story .. I read many sites about you however you are enlightened? you can do or say something to me .. ? give me some direction because I need it ... My advice to you is: Get a checking of your meditation from a teacher of Transcendental Meditation Marcelo.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Some history: Turq-troll used to be quite popular here. Sadly all of those who thought he was the shnizzit have left or changed their minds, so the only response has to come from Barry himself, and all we hear is crickets.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. I honestly suspect that a few of these folks (you know who we're talking about) honestly *can't conceive* of anyone not reading every word of their posts. And I honestly suspect Barry knows better. snip What I love are the ones who imagine that they're having a dialogue with people who stopped reading their posts (except for the first few words you can't avoid in the time it takes to hit the Next key) in months. Another of Barry's fond fantasies. Note that it sets up a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't double bind: If we write the post as if addressing him directly, it's because we're delusional. If we don't, we're going at him indirectly, which Stupid Sal has so eloquently characterized, utterly oblivious to the double standard, as unfair. Me, I write 'em as the mood strikes me, directly or indirectly. Sometimes a post seems to call for direct address, other times indirect works better. Sometimes I'll switch from one to the other in a single post. Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has had to bite his fingers to keep from responding. One way or the other, the arrangement suits me just fine: he's made it impossible for himself to deliver a rebuttal. RESPONSE: Dear FFL Readers: Judy has attacked the logic, the coherence, the sincerity, the truth of everything that Barry has said. If you are an honest person (and you have any regard for Barry) I consider you all cowards and phoneys if you don't stick up for Barry by taking Judy on. Judy has gone to the extremebut it my mind at least, it is where the truth has led her. Where is the outrage, the honour, the justice felt by those who, since they believe Judy's criticisms unwarranted, would defend and vindicate the good name of their friend? If no one dares to answer Judy, I will assume that she is right. Because if she were not right, I can't imagine, if I were a friend of Barry's, allowing her to do what she has done with pefect impunity. Judy speaks, and she relentlessly goes at her target. But she seems eminently reasonable in all this. She is simply holding Barry accountable for his actions. It is a very strange kind of martyrdom to (if you are Barry or one of his friends) that allows that martyrdom to be proclaimed by this sullen silence. I say Judy is just teaching the moral alphabet. She is so vehement and precise in her challenge to Barry; if she were even slightly off, she would look ridiculous, and her inner hatred and envy would be obvious. And yet it is not. Conclusion (you there, Sal?): Until someone refutes her, I will have to assume she has hit her mark. And hit her mark again and again and again. So far, she has not missed. It seems also that she is trying to do Barry a favour. What say you FFL readers: why has not someone come to the defence of Barry by turning on Judy? I am beginning to doubt the American spirit.
[FairfieldLife] Ear-light?
Why this might work: www.valkee.com Perhaps because of this NISSILA, J, MA¨ NTTA¨ RI S, TUOMINEN H, SA¨ RKIOJA T, TIMONEN M, SAARELA S Department of Biology, University of Oulu, PO Box 3000, 90014 Oulu, Finland Email: juuso.niss...@valkee.com OPN3 (aka. panopsin or enkephalopsin) belongs to the families of extraretinal opsins having putative role of CNS tissue photosensitivity. OPN3 mRNA has earlier been localized in rodent brain and in mRNA expression level in Human brain, but actual protein and itO s location has not been clarified. In this study, we aimed to define OPN3 protein localization and abundance in human brain and the site of cellular locality.The distribution and localization of OPN3 protein in human brain and peripheral tissues was assessed by immunohistochemical staining using polyclonal antibody against OPN3. OPN3 protein content was measured using western blotting and SDS-PAGE. The samples from altogether nine cadavers were assessed during forensic examination and their tissues prepared. Samples were cut into sections and fluerescent dye labeled antibody was used to stain before confocal laser scanning microscopy. The specificity of labeling and immununoreaction was secured by primary antibody omitting and immunizing peptide blocking experiment. Results: We found OPN3 protein abundant in Human brain, but not in periphery or in negative controls. Neuronal OPN3 was present in granular pattern intracellularly altogether in fifteen out of eighteen examined sites, including numerous cerebral cortical areas, cerebellar cortex and several nuclei in phylogenetically old regions. Immunoreaction took place mostly in neuronal soma, but not in nuclei. Conclusion: Previously in mRNA-level assessed OPN3 encoding is actually resulting abundant presence of OPN3 protein in neurons of human brain, but not in non-neuronal peripheral tissues. 8.1.51 Panja D et al. Translation initiation during Arc-dependent ... P51 [4145] Translation initiation during Arc-dependent LTP consolidation is controlled by sustained TrkB activation coupled to ERK-MNK signalling and inhibition of the translation repressor CYFIP1 PANJA
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis
Curtis, here is what one the greatest philosophers in the world says about evolutionhe a determined and committed atheist: My own situation is that of an atheist who, in spite of being an avid consumer of popular science, has for a long time been skeptical of the claims of traditional evolutionary theory to be the whole story about the history of life. The theory does not claim to explain the origin of life, which remains a complete scientific mystery at this point. Opponents of ID, however, normally assume that that too must have a purely chemical explanation. The idea is that life arose and evolved to its present form solely because of the laws of chemistry, and ultimately of particle physics. In the prevailing naturalistic worldview, evolutionary theory plays the crucial role in showing how physics can be the theory of everything. Sophisticated members of the contemporary culture have been so thoroughly indoctrinated that they easily lose sight of the fact that evolutionary reductionism defies common sense. A theory that defies common sense can be true, but doubts about its truth should be sup- pressed only in the face of exceptionally strong evidence. I do not regard divine intervention as a possibility, even though I have no other candidates. Yet I recognize that this is because of an aspect of my overall worldview that does not rest on empirical grounds or any other kind of rational grounds. I do not think the existence of God can be disproved. So someone who can offer serious scientific reasons to doubt the adequacy of the theory of evolution, and who believes in God, in the same immediate way that I believe there is no god, can quite reasonably conclude that the hypothesis of design should be taken seriously. If reasons to doubt the adequacy of evolutionary theory can be legitimately admitted to the curriculum, it is hard to see why they cannot legitimately be described as reasons in support of design, for those who believe in God, and reasons to believe that some as yet undiscovered, purely naturalistic theory must account for the evidence, for those who do not. That, after all, is the real epistemological situation. Thomas Nagel P.S. I have urged him to run for office in Alexandria. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Loved it, thanks. Backacha! Jesus and Vishnu on Christmas eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 RESPONSE: Somebody secretly is fighting off doubts about evolution here. Too worked up metabolically. Serenity, irony, quiet confidence, respecting what makes it hard for some people to take the idea of macroevolution as proven: much better. Agreed. It needed a final edit and cooler delivery to be more effective communication. But that said, I know plenty of guys like this and it doesn't really mean anything about the content of what he is saying. It is our emotional reaction to to a person being too self indulgent that makes it poor communication. He went to far into the dickish lane for me too. If someone was holding out for flat earth theory, how would be treat that person? Not like this. Brilliant as it is. Some people want macroevolution to be true so much they become much too aggressive and abusive in their denunciation of the persons (like John Lennon) who balked at the sweeping claims of Darwin. This is evidence of metaphysical anxiety: You mean macroevolution might not be true? I don't think it has been proven beyond the right to ask question about it. Although microevolution is a no-brainer. There are questions within the thoery that are still being discussed. And the understanding has advanced far beyond Darwin's initial formulation due to the spirit of questioning. In this year's election this is gunna be a lowest bar litmus test for me. If you understand science, you understand how the theory of evolution is the basis for our whole understanding of biology. It is is more than key. As for the Christmas boast of Christ, I think Jesus prevails here. He has all the cards. However facetiously presented, his arguments against Krishna win out for me. It's a bloody good argument. Besides where does your irresistible love of Christmas come from, Curtis? Well we have to be realistic that most of what I love about Christmas is not Christan but Druid and Mithra worship. My neurons got bribed into it pretty early. But I still enjoy the nativity myth perhaps even more so now that I know some of the sources it was cannibalized from historically. These are archetypes to be enjoyed. Me: I say it comes from the fact that it is true. God became a tiny infant. I would go with: God becomes every tiny infant. Jesus was
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 in under 5 minutes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The airliners weren't 747s. And what is the basis of your theory? I have not heard such from fighter pilots interviewed. I'm in the military, and one of my jobs used to be as a ground controller for pilots. I'm aware of what pilots have to do to get out of thier 'ready room' where they're watching tv and eating donuts and proceed to the aircraft and recieve clearance for takeoff. I'm also aware of the difficulties in communication between ground control and pilots, especially when you're dealing with a team that has never worked or rehearsed together. Also, one interview I saw was one of the pilots near D.C. that is on 24/7 standby for such contingencies, and they all thought that the first aircraft was just an accident. It wasn't until the 2nd plane that they were even aware that they might have to get up in the air. As for the 747's mistake, sorry, I usually don't distinguish between 737, 747, 767...etc, I just use 747 as a universal term for 'big plane carrying people'. And they may not want to because keeping a bogeyman around is handy to keep the sheeple in fear. No, I've been working in surveillance as well for quite some time. Mullah Omar is somewhere in Pakistan and doing well not because we're letting him live, but because their tribes and fighters won't let us get to him. We have a very hard time sending people in that country. It's like sending the LAPD swat team into certain neighborhoods in L.A. LAPD swat might be the best trained swat team in the USA, and might have all the weapons and armored vehicles, but they still get fd up bad in certain areas. No matter how elite you are, you can't compete with certain cultures and certain mindsets. If you think Mullah Omar is around because we're in total control and are letting him live, you have no idea how powerful some of these islamic tribes really are. Don't you remember the 1980's?? RememberAfghanistan defeated the Soviet military? Not only is our military and government living in a fantasy world that we are so much better at war than everyone else, but civilians are so naive about how powerful our military really is. We are nowhere near being in enough control over this war to just let someone stay alive. In fact, if we were in that much control, GWB would have confirmed Bin Laden dead in the last year of his term as Pres. But now Obama gets all the credit. And I do assume you know that supposedly Osama was killed in Tora Bora in early 2002 but there were not enough remains for the US to claim the kill. Having outlived his bogeyman usefulness they concocted the recent raid. After all, the crying wolf over faked videos of Bin Laden this late in the day wasn't working out. I haven't looked into the fake videos theory much. However, I do know that it was Delta Force that was on the hunt for Bin Laden in late 2001/early 2002. They were within 1 mile of him, according to sources. However, the Mujahadeen soldiers that guided Delta to Osama started to behave very suspicious once they came close. Supposedly, the white house/pentagon had to make a call. Either push the mission, and risk getting all these Delta operators killed, or live to hunt another day. They chose to abort. A lot of criticism was given to Bush for that decision, just like Clinton recieved a lot of criticism for not pursuing UBL after a failed attempt in the 90's. I, personally, don't buy the boogyman theory. If so, Bush and his whole administration intentionally went down as the most incompetent administration since perhaps Buchanan. So either Bush is a political kamikaze, or he's just a plain idiot. I think the latter. Again that's your theory In the military there's orders. There is no way in hell anyone in the military is going to follow orders to kill their own, especially in a special operations unit where 'independant thinkers' are the predominant personality type. There might be an occasional 'psycho' out there capable of doing it. But orders or not, guys in spec ops units are a lot more loyal to each other than they are to psychotic orders as suggested by some conspiracy theorists. What about WTC 7? That was very definitely a demolition and obviously prepped well before the day. Some think that Flight 93 was supposed to crash into. How convenient that a lot of fraud investigations were destroyed in the process. Some even think that WTC 7 was the true target and the towers a diversion tactic. WTC 7 is the smoking gun because fires wouldn't have destroyed or made it collapse... on its own footprint. We know firemen were advised the building was going to be pulled. I'm with you on WTC 7, and i'd like some answers. However, the part that confuses me is the fact that it blew up means that it was a timed detonation, as opposed to a controlled detonation.
[FairfieldLife] Hidden Reality
Brian Green discusses the current thoughts in cosmology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqpNudIss4feature=related
[FairfieldLife] Honoring Flight 93
http://www.honorflight93.org/
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: And I thought I was going to have a few days off from this place. [comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I find it fascinating that you focus on my purported emotional projections onto Barry, while completely ignoring Barry's own tendency to project. I was posting via a post you had written, and to give what I wanted to say some kind of point of view, that seemed to me to be the point of view to take. Barry obviously does mention others in his posts and makes comments about them. Don't feel like you have been picked out for persecution. If 10 vehicles are going 75 in a 50 miles per hour zone and one gets ticketed out of the group for speeding and the other get off free, it might just be the fall of the dice. Ah, I see, you claim to be a cop qualified to discern who is guilty of infractions and hand out tickets. But you seem to be carrying around a loaded pair of dice, because this is hardly the only time you've singled me out. First of all I was responding to a post you had written. I was questioning some of the things you said in the post. As you've done before several times. I am not a cop. You were and are and have been playing that role. You did not choose that analogy by accident, although the intention may have been subconscious. snip Look, Xeno, I could not possibly be less interested in taking enlightenment lessons from you. You do not have to take anything from me. You can ignore me. I have been ignoring your attempts to give me enlightenment lessons. I'm a little surprised you haven't noticed. snip If you want to engage me in the realm of duality, you will (a) come down from the mountain; I am not on a mountain. I am just an ordinary person. You give a very good impression of being on a mountain. You write as if you were on a mountain. I am almost on ground level; there seems to bit a bit of wood and concrete just below me though. Why is it you have fashioned this as a command? You seem to have overlooked the phrase that began my sentence. (b) observe duality's rules of fair play; I was not aware that duality had rules of fair play. It does, by general consensus. They've even been formalized to some extent. snip Duality is what I presume (correctly presume I hope) is what we are trying to get away from on this forum. I believe you presume incorrectly. snip and (c) not retreat back up the mountain to avoid dealing with the issues you've raised. Otherwise, I don't recognize your authority to hand out tickets. As I said, I did not hand out any tickets. You have not been cited. Yes, you did, and I have been. More than once. snip So, do you feel you project your inner feelings and musings and ideas onto others as you discuss them, or do you feel you do not do this? Not anywhere near as much as you imagine. I am not sure how much I imagine about this You imagine enough about it to have spoken up. snip I might point out that some of us here have had much longer experience with Barry than you have. He can be very impressive at first blush because of his skill with words, but ultimately that skill fails to hide a barrenness and lack of authenticity, as well as a profoundly malicious hostility toward most other people. Yes, Barry is skilful, and I have experienced what I would call hostility from him, but I do not regard him as malignant. There are things in this world that we call malignant, cancer for example, but all these things are natural occurrences that have their range and course of action. Says Xeno, scampering hastily back up the mountain. snip As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. Which is, mostly, putting down other people. There are many passages in his writing that I would call ad hominem attacks. He points out that others are making ad hominem attacks. Or not. I repeat that most of what he writes involves putting down other people. If he's conserving his energy for what he likes to do, that's what he uses it for. snip Now in my own estimation, my own projection of my inner world, Barry has said some very unkind things to people on this forum in the past. I may be mistaken in the following, but is there a trend in which he is becoming less specific in his criticisms? He is not naming specific people, but leaving blanks, so to speak, in which one can fill in a name or two. Yes, that's by design. Two main reasons: First, it allows him to put people down with apparently nonspecific criticisms that are designed to refer recognizably to individuals without having
Re: [FairfieldLife] A little treat for Curtis
Loved it...used my favorite word these days with great delivery...my favorite...ri-fuckin-diculous!. He probably had to sit in church too many Sundays and attend Bible class too many Wednesdays. --- On Sun, 9/11/11, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A little treat for Curtis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, September 11, 2011, 7:57 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=LJYLT9TbRew
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 in under 5 minutes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: snip I'm with you on WTC 7, and i'd like some answers. http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htm http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: construction Beej mantras
* * Dear Marcelo, I don't know if or how much I can help you; the truth is simply I AM, and any adjective added to that -- enlightened, unenlightened, etc. -- is but a story and will always at best be only partially true. In a sense we are bigger than any of our stories, because we contain them and everything else besides. I have neither msn id nor yahoo id; I am on Facebook -- feel free to friend me there -- and my email address is roryg...@hotmail.com;, if you're not on Facebook and would like to write me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: I really liked her story .. I read many sites about you however you are enlightened? you can do or say something to me .. ? give me some direction because I need it ... you has msn id? or yahoo id? 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@... ** * * Glad you liked it, Marcelo. I am exactly as you see me; I will happily support any story you like ... up to a point :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: *hei Rory i read you bio ... very good...Are you enlightened?* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** * * It was just an attempt at humor; pranava beej is the primordial AUM; sonova beej was a play on the phrase son of a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: ok then .. explain please i would like understand *_* 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** * * Not to worry, Marcelo. Nobody, and only nobody, understands anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: which the relationship with OM in TM? I do not understand anything 2011/9/12 RoryGoff rorygoff@ ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@ wrote: snipp-snapp-snurr *but no OM im TM , i no use OM in Tm MMY no **advises** * * From the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition): Doubtless some of Us ever resonate with the pranava beej, while others of Us may ever resonate with the sonava beej. Editor's note: The precise meaning and etymology of Sonava remains somewhat obscure, but is perhaps cognate with the Catalan and Italian sonava meaning he (or she or it) sounded, made a noise ...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Seriously Bobyou could publishall you need is a title... ___, A series of essays on __ by . I don't know enough about whatever to think of a good title. Your creative and loyal friends must have some good ideas. Give up on the novel...too much for an addled brain to comprehend. You must know someone in the publishing field :) P.S. Do I get a commission? --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 9:12 AM In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: snip Bob, WTF?? You fucking retard your strength is not dealing with others directly Lament for the death of my second wife (Herr Edelstein). Ravi, Mere words could never express how moved I was to hear from you after all this time. I sincerely hope you didn't feel forgotten, or---for that matter, forsaken. That could never happen. For me you're like a fine Super Tuscan that needs aeration after its been corked. And as with all men of the renaissance you're best saved for last. You must be asking: WTF Bubaji, I'm nobody's second fiddle and I couldn't agree more, but please let me explain. In Anglo Saxon culture the second place is one of honor. Its been said, that's the reason Shakespeare left his long suffering wife his second bedthe first being for visitors. And of course---in Niel Gow's life affirming piece, the fiddle is the second wife his lament refers to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo On the other (second) hand, my lament is for the reality we must now embrace, as painful as it is, and---if not bury the hatchet, bury Herr Edelstein; because as true as the day follows night you are no one's second fiddle. And of course I must take full responsibility for this mistake in thinking you would be prefect to open for Robin when we hit the road. This all became too apparent with your previous last post when you wished me God speed. I realized then that as my relationship with Robin grew in depth and intimacy you felt jilted making your collaboration with our tour virtually impossible. So that is my lament, but to quote my favorite Palestinian client: Business is business. I have a number of things I hope to get your advice about, as you know I've recently found myself in that brand new state of original consciousness you and your teammates are so familiar with. I had planned to seek Robins advice (he, IMO, being the granddaddy of the whole (ness) shebang), but I'm a little concerned about the over all stability of his recent re-cognition and it might be advisable to wait till it settles a bit---his being a little more like an early Californian that could be considered a touch fruity if corked too early. In addition---despite his recent return to Unity--- he seems pre-occupied with a new movie (Working title THE FIXER UPPER) in the bowels of the FFL archives with our one and only truth commissioner. He wants me to get involved but frankly I'm not sure it has legs (please don't tell him that because unlike some others on FFL he has feelings). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGpSNQurRQ In preparation for this exchange, I went back over some of your recent posts, figuringfor someone I'm seriously considering as a disciple, I should at least be prepared. In the process of reviewing these recent posts I was disturbed to come across a thread called Moving to LA”. Don’t get me wrong, your move itself was not disturbing---as much as we hate to lose you from the Bay Area, LA needs all the enlightened help it can get. No, what disturbed me---on a thread with such a high post count, was that no one had the intestinal fortitude to approach the pink elephant in the room. So as your #1 admirer, and possible dispeller of darkness, I have to bring it up no matter how much easier it would be to pretend it's not an issue. So here goes. What about your therapist, is he planning to move with you? I have to say finding an effective therapist is not as easy as Hollywood would have us believe, and my God your therapist has helped you make some strides. I mean he's helped you virtually eliminate the depressing half of your manic depression. The transformation has been so complete I've wanted to ask you his contact details. Granted, he hasn't been nearly as effective with your tourette's, but I'm guessing he has a whole strategy for that, and now you're pulling up stakes and heading south. I just want to make sure; you're sure? That said, I have to confirm how much I've been enjoying your management of your tourette's. I think blending profanity with the scared is a brilliant strategy. For some reason it reminds me of
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 10 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 17 00:00:00 2011 261 messages as of (UTC) Tue Sep 13 00:08:26 2011 31 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 22 authfriend jst...@panix.com 17 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com 16 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com 14 Marcelo rosa tmer1...@gmail.com 12 Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com 9 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com 9 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 8 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 8 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 8 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 7 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 7 Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com 7 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 6 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 6 Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net 6 J F whynotn...@yahoo.com 5 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 John jr_...@yahoo.com 4 richardwillytexwilliams willy...@yahoo.com 4 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 4 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 3 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 2 seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com 2 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 2 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com 2 PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk 1 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 1 jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com 1 johnt johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com 1 wle...@aol.com 1 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 1 Paulo Barbosa tprob...@terra.com.br 1 Marcio tmer1...@gmail.com 1 J jb...@hotmail.com 1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 1 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com Posters: 39 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
It would be pretty funny if some of us on FFL who didn't much care to have Barry around decided to devise ways to get him to post less, working within his own tendencies. Kind of an Aikido move. Can you imagine? Nah, no one would do that...would they? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, J F whynotnow7@... wrote: Some history: Turq-troll used to be quite popular here. Sadly all of those who thought he was the shnizzit have left or changed their minds, so the only response has to come from Barry himself, and all we hear is crickets.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words It's sort of unbelievable, really. I did my best to provide comments with *out* getting totally sucked in. You have to wonder how much time someone has on their hands if they can expend so much of it on this crap. I honestly suspect that a few of these folks (you know who we're talking about) honestly *can't conceive* of anyone not reading every word of their posts. And I honestly suspect Barry knows better. snip What I love are the ones who imagine that they're having a dialogue with people who stopped reading their posts (except for the first few words you can't avoid in the time it takes to hit the Next key) in months. Another of Barry's fond fantasies. Note that it sets up a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't double bind: If we write the post as if addressing him directly, it's because we're delusional. If we don't, we're going at him indirectly, which Stupid Sal has so eloquently characterized, utterly oblivious to the double standard, as unfair. Me, I write 'em as the mood strikes me, directly or indirectly. Sometimes a post seems to call for direct address, other times indirect works better. Sometimes I'll switch from one to the other in a single post. Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has had to bite his fingers to keep from responding. One way or the other, the arrangement suits me just fine: he's made it impossible for himself to deliver a rebuttal. RESPONSE: Dear FFL Readers: Judy has attacked the logic, the coherence, the sincerity, the truth of everything that Barry has said. If you are an honest person (and you have any regard for Barry) I consider you all cowards and phoneys if you don't stick up for Barry by taking Judy on. Judy has gone to the extremebut it my mind at least, it is where the truth has led her. Where is the outrage, the honour, the justice felt by those who, since they believe Judy's criticisms unwarranted, would defend and vindicate the good name of their friend? If no one dares to answer Judy, I will assume that she is right. Because if she were not right, I can't imagine, if I were a friend of Barry's, allowing her to do what she has done with pefect impunity. Judy speaks, and she relentlessly goes at her target. But she seems eminently reasonable in all this. She is simply holding Barry accountable for his actions. It is a very strange kind of martyrdom to (if you are Barry or one of his friends) that allows that martyrdom to be proclaimed by this sullen silence. I say Judy is just teaching the moral alphabet. She is so vehement and precise in her challenge to Barry; if she were even slightly off, she would look ridiculous, and her inner hatred and envy would be obvious. And yet it is not. Conclusion (you there, Sal?): Until someone refutes her, I will have to assume she has hit her mark. And hit her mark again and again and again. So far, she has not missed. It seems also that she is trying to do Barry a favour. What say you FFL readers: why has not someone come to the defence of Barry by turning on Judy? I am beginning to doubt the American spirit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: everything's got to... including Krishnamurti
Message #289139 there is a place where the 'known', and verbal inquiry, and practices, can Not ever enter ... That place beyond the known is in the vaginas of all the married women Krishnamurti screwed when he rested his dick in them beyond the known of their husbands. and then you can 'kill all the Buddhas including the shrinks and the therapists and the new mini gurusih coaches... and one's favorite quotes as well Who wants the real truth when you can seem so insightful with mere metaphor? but to say more about that 'place'... would be to grossly trivialize and cheapen it... O gosh adultery is just so trivial. but for the entering... every-single-thing has got to go... Yeh he entered them and then went to court to try to prevent the truth from being known. Apparently the known is only worthy of being beyond the known. What a boldface liar he was. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, J JB789@... wrote: ...there is a place where the 'known', and verbal inquiry, and practices, canNot ever enter, and if it does it is corroded, evaporated instantly... and with it, the root of suffering is being burned away... and all this, most and absolutely effortlessly, and thereby _truly_ not having to do a single thing... the possibility for being one's own light is then blatantly obvious... and then you can 'kill all the Buddhas' including the shrinks and the therapist and the new mini gurusih coaches... and one's favourite quotes as well... ...but, If one keeps on sticking to one's -addiction- to verbal inquiry,,, as some hobby or crutch or promissing pass-time... I doubt one can ever enter that place of Life, and bliss without a cause... ,but to say more about that 'place'... would be to grossly trivialize and cheapen it... ,,, but for the entering... every-single-thing-, has got to go... ,and... do you -really-, actually, _want_ that? JB http://www.krishnamurti-denmark.dk/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Details Mag: Meditation Nation
Original From: Steve Guich ste...@rencapp.com a pretty good recent article on TM: Power brokers no longer motivate or medicate-they meditate. How Transcendental Meditation returned as the new status symbol. http://www.details.com/culture-trends/critical-eye/201109/transcendental-meditation-pure-consciousness Steven M. Guich, Ph.D Renaissance Capital Partners ste...@rencapp.com 949-422-6295
[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)
well at least you didn't fall in love with the wrong gal, Kil-ling yourself or keel-ling back on yourself over and over again. - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: *REPORT meditate on mantra kleem in TM I meditated for 7 days twice daily with mantra kleem, I did not feelwell, I felt bad headache, I did not feel natural, so I'm meditating today with the official tM beej mantra, and recommended in the list of * *MMY gave the teachers of TM **... * * * *kleem on TM technique is no good to me .. :) * * * * * 2011/9/9 shukra69 shukra69@... ** by associated in mean if UL falls in leo then it is Sunday , in Capricorn or Aquarius the Saturday etc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: also if you want more love in your life try to do some kind of fast on the weekday associated with the planet of your Upapada Lagna. Download Jagannatha Hora (free) and look for the sign where UL appears in your birth chart. Kleem kaamadevaya vidmahe pushpabanaya dhimahi tanno nangah prachodyat. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: I think Maharishi would say it beautiful, its very very beautiful this idea of using silently this mantra. You want to give up developing some knowledge or wealth or power quality for just love, worldly or divine? it is a great idea. you might need to give a two-syllable feel to Maharishiize that mantra, (which would not necesarily work for english speakers)but you are already on the advanced techniques so thats not such a concern necessarily. This is unfortunately not necessarily a good place to ask such a question. You already know the answer in your heart. Trailokya Sanmohan Tantra: Na catra satrava dosha narnasvadi vicharana, Rksha rasi vicharo va na kartavyo manau priye --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcio tmer1306@ wrote: is not a joke, I'm serious about meditation and mantras, TM mantras etc. .. kleem is different from kreem, kreem is kali mantra ,,, and kleem mantra for lord krishna, Cupid, indra ... I've looked at some sites on the net say 'Kamadeva is one of the names of Krishna --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Marcelo rosa wrote: i think no kreem is no variant of kleem , no , no Brill Cream, by any chance? Does anyone else get the feeling Marcelo is playing a joke? This is just too silly to be anything else. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Thank You, Steve, but the sobriety you seek is entirely in your own mind's eye. While perhaps appearing from time to time as sober as a Judge -- say, Clarence (Anita Drink) Thomas -- in reality I'm always weaving across all eight lanes of this veepish super-highway -- but is it eight, or is it sixteen? In all fairness, though I know not whether I come or go, in my defense the gentle rain keeps washing all dividing lines away. (And someone left the yellowcake in the rain But at least you are able to take it, even if it took you so long to bake it. But don't fret, I have the recipe. so there goes the nuclear family values, but I will return as you -- and you -- and you -- and you were there. But you couldn't have been, could you? It wasn't just a dream, or a binding resolution anyway, noway, nohow, nowhere, nobody.) In truth, I am Absolutly drunk as Ravi, as Robin, as you -- and you -- and you -- and you -- and every One of Us when I belly up to the Phat Phuc bar to inhale this day my daily Red with oodles of buddha-noodles, and this is my brain on Love is my body and Love is my blood. Okay, I'll give you Robin, but Ravi, I don't think so. He's got a real problem with the divine vodka. I think what Bob has been trying to do is entice Ravi to join a 12 step program, but Ravi seems to be having none of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Damn Rory, when you choose to stay in one lane, or should I say one plane, you can make a darn funny post. Fun stuff. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Aikido
Aikido is a Japanese martial art developed by Morihei Ueshiba as a synthesis of his martial studies, philosophy, and religious beliefs. Aikido is often translated as the Way of unifying (with) life energy or as the Way of harmonious spirit. Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attacker from injury. Aikido is performed by blending with the motion of the attacker and redirecting the force of the attack rather than opposing it head-on. This requires very little physical strength, as the aikid#333;ka (aikido practitioner) leads the attacker's momentum using entering and turning movements. The techniques are completed with various throws or joint locks. Aikido derives mainly from the martial art of Dait#333;-ry#363; Aiki-j#363;jutsu, but began to diverge from it in the late 1920s, partly due to Ueshiba's involvement with the #332;moto-ky#333; religion. Ueshiba's early students' documents bear the term aiki-j#363;jutsu. Ueshiba's senior students have different approaches to aikido, depending on when they studied with him. Today aikido is found all over the world in a number of styles, with broad ranges of interpretation and emphasis. However, they all share techniques learned from Ueshiba and most have concern for the well-being of the attacker.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Okay, I'll give you Robin, but Ravi, I don't think so. He's got a real problem with the divine vodka. I think what Bob has been trying to do is entice Ravi to join a 12 step program, but Ravi seems to be having none of it. * * Ravi is Absolutly OK; he is in very good spirits, and vice versa! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Well Judge Judy has convicted me for being a cop and handing out tickets, though I am not sure what the ticket I seem to have issued was for. What is my sentence Judge? As for the last question you asked here, I simply do not think Barry devotes much energy to what he writes. This is what I think. It is an hypothesis, because I have no way to measure what he does. But because I think this, and that is all there is to it, it is an opinion. It is not a fact. Opinions are not knowledge. So why must I justify and manufacture an answer for that thought to satisfy you? I probably expend a huge amount of energy compared to him. How much do you expend? You definitely try to check facts, scan old posts for inconsistencies. Barry doesn't bother much if what he says is correct, and what you say is correct. I do not really spend much time looking at older posts, I just do not have the time or energy, and I am rather slow at writing. As for the question about why you are here. It was just a question: Why are you here? I came here to discuss enlightenment with others. What was your reason, if there was one? Are you still here for the same reason? I am still here for the same reason, though I seem to get embroiled in other activities that seemingly have little to do with deepening knowledge of experience. It's my bedtime. I hope you have a fine day tomorrow. And I hope Barry has a fine day tomorrow. I hope Ravi has a fine day tomorrow. I hope whynotnow7 has a fine day tomorrow, and all the others here have a fine day tomorrow. I even hope I have a fine day tomorrow. Nature does have surprises though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: And I thought I was going to have a few days off from this place. [comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I find it fascinating that you focus on my purported emotional projections onto Barry, while completely ignoring Barry's own tendency to project. I was posting via a post you had written, and to give what I wanted to say some kind of point of view, that seemed to me to be the point of view to take. Barry obviously does mention others in his posts and makes comments about them. Don't feel like you have been picked out for persecution. If 10 vehicles are going 75 in a 50 miles per hour zone and one gets ticketed out of the group for speeding and the other get off free, it might just be the fall of the dice. Ah, I see, you claim to be a cop qualified to discern who is guilty of infractions and hand out tickets. But you seem to be carrying around a loaded pair of dice, because this is hardly the only time you've singled me out. First of all I was responding to a post you had written. I was questioning some of the things you said in the post. As you've done before several times. I am not a cop. You were and are and have been playing that role. You did not choose that analogy by accident, although the intention may have been subconscious. snip Look, Xeno, I could not possibly be less interested in taking enlightenment lessons from you. You do not have to take anything from me. You can ignore me. I have been ignoring your attempts to give me enlightenment lessons. I'm a little surprised you haven't noticed. snip If you want to engage me in the realm of duality, you will (a) come down from the mountain; I am not on a mountain. I am just an ordinary person. You give a very good impression of being on a mountain. You write as if you were on a mountain. I am almost on ground level; there seems to bit a bit of wood and concrete just below me though. Why is it you have fashioned this as a command? You seem to have overlooked the phrase that began my sentence. (b) observe duality's rules of fair play; I was not aware that duality had rules of fair play. It does, by general consensus. They've even been formalized to some extent. snip Duality is what I presume (correctly presume I hope) is what we are trying to get away from on this forum. I believe you presume incorrectly. snip and (c) not retreat back up the mountain to avoid dealing with the issues you've raised. Otherwise, I don't recognize your authority to hand out tickets. As I said, I did not hand out any tickets. You have not been cited. Yes, you did, and I have been. More than once. snip So, do you feel you project your inner feelings and musings and ideas onto others as you discuss them, or do you feel you do not do this? Not anywhere near as
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aikido
Interesting technique. I found this video with Steven Seagal demonstrating the practice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yacGwi8Kzg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, J F whynotnow7@... wrote: Aikido is a Japanese martial art developed by Morihei Ueshiba as a synthesis of his martial studies, philosophy, and religious beliefs. Aikido is often translated as the Way of unifying (with) life energy or as the Way of harmonious spirit. Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attacker from injury. Aikido is performed by blending with the motion of the attacker and redirecting the force of the attack rather than opposing it head-on. This requires very little physical strength, as the aikid#333;ka (aikido practitioner) leads the attacker's momentum using entering and turning movements. The techniques are completed with various throws or joint locks. Aikido derives mainly from the martial art of Dait#333;-ry#363; Aiki-j#363;jutsu, but began to diverge from it in the late 1920s, partly due to Ueshiba's involvement with the #332;moto-ky#333; religion. Ueshiba's early students' documents bear the term aiki-j#363;jutsu. Ueshiba's senior students have different approaches to aikido, depending on when they studied with him. Today aikido is found all over the world in a number of styles, with broad ranges of interpretation and emphasis. However, they all share techniques learned from Ueshiba and most have concern for the well-being of the attacker.
