[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Speak Well of Others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Maharishi: Speak Well of Others Question: Maharishi, in yourcommentary on the Bhagavad-Gita http://amzn.to/nHE2Ow you write that not finding fault and not speaking ill of others is counted an essential prerequisite to achieve higher states of consciousness. You say that when a man speaks ill of others, he partakes of the sins of those of whom he speaks. How does speaking ill of others and finding fault slow down our progress and coarsen the nervous system? What are the mechanics involved? Maharishi: What comes out indicates what's been inside. So if the wrongs of some other people come out, that means the wrong was stored inside. It just tells the structure of the heart, what is contained inside. If someone never speaks ill of others, that means he has a pure heart, he doesn't have the wrong inside. If something wrong was done by some man, why should I bring that wrong, through thinking or remembering, and try to keep it in my heart? And if I speak it out, that means I had stored something of that. And if wrong is stored, then the heart is not pure. It just indicates what kind of storage is here, whether purity is stored or impurity is stored. Speaking ill of others means first transplant the wrong of his heart in our heart, transplant the wrong of his mind to our mind, and then let that plant grow into a tree until it comes out. Many-fold it comes out. The whole process is dragging to evolution. It drags us down. If you have not spoken out any wrong of anyone, that means you don't have any wrong in your heart. This is a measure. We never think ill of others, because if someone has done wrong, why should we bring it in our heart and make our heart impure? It's not necessary. But if our heart is already impure, it will be picking its like from here and there and strengthening its quality. There is that proverb: Birds of the same feather flock together. If there is filth deposited in the heart, then it will collect more filth from here. Birds of the same feather flock together. And then whatever has been flocked together, it will start to fly out. One can't say, Oh, how can that man behave like that, when he is a meditator? That means we don't know how much good has increased in him. We didn't see him three years ago. There is always an improvement. We never think anything negative of anyone, particularly because once we are meditating, our thought force is increasing very greatly. And if with this increased thought force we think low of someone, we are pushing him down to be that low. Never do we think any wrong thoughts of others, nor do we speak them out. Never. It's not necessary to use our time and energy of thinking and speaking on something that does not improve our life, that does not help us to grow. It's not worthwhile. So spend your energy and get joy, happiness, evolution, more ability to enjoy, more ability to create. In this field we spend our energy and time. RESPONSE: Moving, wise, inspired, and truthful. Maharishi at his very best. How he addresses this issue (speaking ill of others) comes out of a very delicate perception of reality. There is no one else in two thousand years whoif you remember the state of mind and heart you were in when Maharishi was at the very epicentre of the universe (I think he was based upon my own experience back there in the early seventies)could so effectively and arrestingly capture one's attention as epitomized in this answer to the question that was posed to him. No, Maharishi here (if you can project yourself back in time and receive what he is saying within the context of the universe as it existed then) is creating a sense of his brilliant and innocent authority. Simple and transparent as his meaning is, it nevertheless reaches to the sublime. It is the verbalization of the experience of TM transcendence. And those who listened to these words were silenced by their beauty and their import. Maharishi was speaking a profound truth, and in the first half of his answer, just as perfectly in a sense as Christ spoke the very same truth. So good to read this and then recollect the credibility Maharishi established in answering this question, for his answer was at once 1. coming out of his own direct and personal experience; 2. representative of the attitude of the entire cosmos. No lover or teacher spoke words this sweet, this wise, this gentle, this precise, this true. When Maharishi said these words, the universe appeared to like him. And we could feel in his answer the perfect fit between Maharishi and the whole of creation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:52:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind I always enjoy your comments Bob. I am trying to sort things out. ***BP2: Steve, your participation is always appreciated. I think one of the things we might share is the joy in creating employment for others. One of my favorite threads was you explaining to the great unwashed why you stiffed that waiter! Having negotiated contracts in Abu Dhabi, I knew exactly what you were getting at. Bullying is based on one party being weaker than another. ***I know you're not so simple as to think this explains bullying. If you used this explanation to explain bullying to a child, they might be forgiven for concluding that bullying is done out of strength while resisting a bully is form of weakness (I know you don't think that). We both know, if anything, bullying demonstrates a type of inadequacy (weakness) in the bully. So what. I think we're past the point of trying to modify behavior, or get to the root cause of our behaviors. I mean, at the risk of sounding arrogant, I'm not. It's something I think about every day. But for the purposes of FFL, I think we can go with Curtis' definition. ***BP2: I'm from the school of: Empty your hand gun into that shaking bush and if you get a few innocents that's just the cost of doing business. That said, I think FFL is grown up enough to consider my definition of bullying as well as the dictionary definition. When I'm working on characterization, the last book i pick up is the dictionary, this could be a failing of mine. I don't see how that applies here.  What situation makes Robin weaker than Barry in their power position on a public board, and therefor subject to bullying? ***I didn't say Robin was the weaker party---quite the contrary, who would you want watching your back on Safari? I would have to disagree. I would not remove Barry from the category of being a loyal friend. I can't relate to the manner in which he goes after Robin, for example, but I understand the impulse. I often have the same impulses, but I guess I put a greater value on trying to find common ground, on trying to get along. I know that is how people coexist in a more harmonious fashion. ***BP2: Its no put down on anyone; it's just when I go on Safari---I prefer someone with high emotional intelligence. I also like to get along; particularly with lions. Posting here has an emotional learning curve.  You learn who to hang with and who to ignore. You are one of the good ones here. What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat And of course that's true. And as Curtis has pointed out, there are so many ways to make a point without unleashing both barrels. Like just remaining silent for example. But maybe that's where the glitch is. Feeling you need to blast, when there's no need to say anything. You know, the live and let live thing. ***BP2: I would always hope that no one is ever driven away because that increases the chances that someone will say something nice about me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I defy anyone to say it more succinctly than this
Dear Robin, Had no clue how to respond - so I just waited a bit.. I lost the brilliant guy, the master of irony somewhere in the middle of this response and ended up with a guy who seem to have lot of pains of the MMY era and the false enlightenment of the vedic gods. Not sure if you noticed it. So I didn't even have the heart to respond anymore, but I couldn't leave the BS un-addressed. The whole point of my posting here on FFL to show the need for separating the outer from the inner. I have no involvements like you and others here with worshiping Gurus, cults or treating them or myself or anything outer as infallible. My whole life has been to reject anything that didn't make any sense to my person ontology as you refer it to as, reject it as BS, even if it came from my Guru, other Gurus or any other authority figures. So this is the big difference between Ravi and Robin - Ravi, always an individual versus Robin, a cultist, now returning to his individual roots? But perhaps still not ready to take personal responsibility for his actions (damn them vedic gods). I'm a sucker for women. I can't resist them - my whole adult life prior to enlightenment was in trying to make my ex happy, upon being rejected time and again with ferocity the love had nowhere to go but fall into itself, the core - now I'm in a blissful orgasm with my beloved Srushti(existence). So it was pure love that transformed me, I had no intellectual knowledge of higher states of consciousness like you and other TM pimps here to result in intellectually aroused enlightened states. That's another big difference between Ravi and Robin - Ravi a lover versus an Robin an intellectual now returning to being a lover? My total focus is on myself, I correct myself constantly in order to please the beloved and any women I interact because I know my inner perfection doesn't translate to outer infallibility. The others may have nothing to contribute to my inner growth but they do for my outer growth. I enjoy my inner silence so much that I don't have a need to run away from others. In fact I love being around people since it provides such a beautiful contrast. I have a distaste for anything traditional, conservative - if its from India or from Canada. So keep your cultish, conservative bullshit to yourself. Sorry for being so upfront, I still love you and your writings the same. Love - Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Re: I defy anyone to say it more succinctly than this Dear Robin. RAVI: You are spot on !!! In this Kali Yoga or the age of swines as you say, spirituality, love and higher values can it seem only be passed this way - wrapped, hidden in irony, sarcasm and mockery, since if one questions it there's always a way out to protect the love and the beloved. Like I said before, not only do you have a brilliant intellect but you are also have the ability to discern the hidden jewels, the darshan, energy and grace veiled by the mocking, curses and sarcasm - you are indeed one of the brilliant that I have interacted with - wouldn't it be a great asset to have Robin on my side once I hit the Guru market? RESPONSE: Count on it, Ravi. When you go public, I will be your devoted disciple. You see (I am speaking to those *who do not know*) we have this fool-proof protection for our cryptic dogma: because anyone reading thisother than yourselfwill think: Ah, there's Robin again, playing his irony gamesMeanwhile at the *level of the actual* a pure and sublime surrender is going on, as I submit my whole consciousness to thy indefectible self. And behind and underneath the irony and sarcasm is your seraphic holiness, your gorgeous saintliness. Christ died a horrible death on the Cross; you, however, are willing to have your sincere and just intentions misunderstood by acting the part of the mocking cobra-killing mongoose of goon mantras. That you would, in this dark age, be willing to sacrifice your true modesty and divine diffidence to act the part of the boisterous roaring desecrator of all that is taboo and forbidden, well that seems to make of this crucifixion of your own nature an act comparableeasilyto Christ's. After all he did not disguise who he was in the least: he too was provocative in the extreme. But all the while remaining who he was. You on the other hand assume this disguise and utterly confound and outrage your future devotees. Well, Ravi, as you know, I have seen through you. And I am the beneficiary of this. As soon as you declare yourself a bona fide Guru, know that you can count on me to make a holocaust of my first person ontology [something you know by now I deem what is highest in me and in everyone]. I know you experience the total sincerity of my soul even asthis must be, must it not, Ravi?all the readers on FFL assume I am just doing a Ravi on you. I feel your love, Ravi, and I know you always knew that my only response to you has been from the beginning, no matter how
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon Dear Rick, John Lennox is a distinguished professor of mathematics at Oxford. I have listened to him in conversation with Richard Dawkins. And his wit, his charm, his sincerity, and his intelligence (acting in the service of his idea of truth) seemed in my estimation at least to utterly defeat Dawkins, and turn Dawkins into a dogmatic robot. I don't say that Dawkins can't hold his own; it is just that in the presence of Professor Lennox, on this occasion, he was outdone in every sense. And reduced almost to babbling. This was not his formal debate with Dawkins; this was a quiet conversation recorded at Oxford. It is quite phenomenal. As for his article here, it is simple elegant, and profound. Even if you disagree with every word of it. I hope some of the readers at FFL take a look at it. He covers most everything that is pertinent to answering Stephen Hawking. I won't consider becoming an atheist until I find someone willing to contemplate the theistic argument in its strongest form. Reading what Lennox says here you get some clue I think what was behind those last words uttered by Steve Jobs. I think he saw all of creation as the expression of the loving intelligence of a Person. But of course I would have to put that interpretation upon Steve Jobs, given what he is purported to have said. It does not sound as if he encountered The Absolute. We are all in for a big surprise when this adventure and ordeal is over. But we will encounter the reality of death perfectly held inside our first person perspective. It will not be transcendent. It will be personal, intimate, and conclusive. For all time. Two great posts, Rick: this one and the Maharishi transcript. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siri vs. Japanese
That goes to show the machine is stupid and can't recognize differences in accents of human beings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=RiU8GPlsZqE WTF!?
[FairfieldLife] Please don't listen to this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAhHNCfA7NIob=av2e The limpy beat might schtick to yer head...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat.. Actually, what Barry might say is, If someone has told you in no uncertain terms that they don't find either you or the things you say interesting, accept that and walk away. It seems to me that most of the noise on this forum is being made by people who can't do that. They react to being dismissed as uninteresting by acting even more needy and panicky -- and thus uninteresting -- than ever. It's a vicious samskaric circle. Get over it. If you're that needy, find someone who does think you're interesting enough to talk to and talk with them. Not gonna happen with me. This comment is directed towards Robin, Jim, Ravi, and Judy, and to no one else on this forum. Please catch a clue from it and stop acting like such attention vampires, Ok?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Nothing panicky about us, Cherry.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat.. Actually, what Barry might say is, If someone has told you in no uncertain terms that they don't find either you or the things you say interesting, accept that and walk away. It seems to me that most of the noise on this forum is being made by people who can't do that. They react to being dismissed as uninteresting by acting even more needy and panicky -- and thus uninteresting -- than ever. It's a vicious samskaric circle. Get over it. If you're that needy, find someone who does think you're interesting enough to talk to and talk with them. Not gonna happen with me. This comment is directed towards Robin, Jim, Ravi, and Judy, and to no one else on this forum. Please catch a clue from it and stop acting like such attention vampires, Ok?
[FairfieldLife] One statistic that explains all of America's problems
1 out of 12 residents of Washington, D.C. are lawyers. D.C. Has Nation's Highest Concentration Of Lawyers WASHINGTON -- While it's no secret that the nation's capital is full of lawyers, a new study gives a better picture as to just how many District of Columbia residents are out there with JDs. According to the Examiner http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/10/dc-lawyer-capital-world#\ ixzz1cMrErT7M : An astounding one in 12 District residents -- by far the highest rate nationwide -- is a lawyer, according to American Bar Association and census figures. Put another way: The nation's capital accounts for just one-fifth of 1 percent of the U.S. population but one in every 25 of its lawyers. Still, while that number is high, there may not be as many employed lawyers in the city as there once were. As Washington City Paper reported in June, D.C. Chief Financial Officer Natwar Gandhi warned D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray and D.C. Council Chairman Kwame Brown that fewer employed lawyers meant less money for city coffers http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2011/06/22/time-to-p\ anic-fewer-lawyers-in-d-c/ . In his letter, Gandhi wrote: Another concern is there are fewer lawyers working in the District in April 2011 than last year and fewer than 3 years ago when the recession began. Law firms are key tenants in the commercial office market that is supporting the commercial property values and contributing the most to the increase in deed taxes. Unless this sector rebounds, it is not clear who will occupy new office space. According to the ABA study, while 1 in 12 D.C. residents are lawyers, 1 in 259 Maryland residents are lawyers; in Virginia, 1 in 354 residents are lawyers. The national average, the Examiner reports, is 1 in 260.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One statistic that explains all of America's problems
Seems to me there is meat for a good blues song in this, Curtis. Or at the very least a great bit to add to your busking chatter. Still, it's better than having to perform in Fairfield: [http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/302440704826012e126700163e41dd5b] :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: 1 out of 12 residents of Washington, D.C. are lawyers. D.C. Has Nation's Highest Concentration Of Lawyers WASHINGTON -- While it's no secret that the nation's capital is full of lawyers, a new study gives a better picture as to just how many District of Columbia residents are out there with JDs. According to the Examiner http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/10/dc-lawyer-capital-world#\ \ ixzz1cMrErT7M : An astounding one in 12 District residents -- by far the highest rate nationwide -- is a lawyer, according to American Bar Association and census figures. Put another way: The nation's capital accounts for just one-fifth of 1 percent of the U.S. population but one in every 25 of its lawyers. Still, while that number is high, there may not be as many employed lawyers in the city as there once were. As Washington City Paper reported in June, D.C. Chief Financial Officer Natwar Gandhi warned D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray and D.C. Council Chairman Kwame Brown that fewer employed lawyers meant less money for city coffers http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2011/06/22/time-to-p\ \ anic-fewer-lawyers-in-d-c/ . In his letter, Gandhi wrote: Another concern is there are fewer lawyers working in the District in April 2011 than last year and fewer than 3 years ago when the recession began. Law firms are key tenants in the commercial office market that is supporting the commercial property values and contributing the most to the increase in deed taxes. Unless this sector rebounds, it is not clear who will occupy new office space. According to the ABA study, while 1 in 12 D.C. residents are lawyers, 1 in 259 Maryland residents are lawyers; in Virginia, 1 in 354 residents are lawyers. The national average, the Examiner reports, is 1 in 260.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: And don't think I haven't noted your own lack of intervening when the guns are pointed my way unfairly. Whose guns, Nabby's? Is he still hurt because I called his music hillbilly ??
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: shocking description :little beer-drowned consciousness of B by nablusoss1008#292730 and related to #293725 what remains to be quoted (in thus context)?- :Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer A drug is neither moral nor immoral -- it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole. Zappa, Frank V. Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer: Consumption of it leads to pseudo-military behaviour. Think about it -- winos don't march. Whiskey guys don't march, either (sometimes they write poetry, which is often more horrible, though). Beer drinkers are into things that are sort of like marching -- like football. Maybe there's a chemical in beer that stimulates the [male] brain to do violence while moving in the same direction as other guys who smell like them [marching] -- We, as a group of MEN, will drink this refreshing liquid, after which we will get together and beat the snot out of that guy over there. Beer seems to produce behavioural results which are psycho-chemically different from those produced by other alcoholic beverages. Alcohol (the part that 'gets you drunk') is only one ingredient. There are other things in beer, and those [herbal and/or biological] components could affect the [male] brain, creating this violent tendency. Go ahead and laugh. One day you're going to read about some scientist discovering that hops, in conjunction with certain strains of 'yeast creatures,' has a mysterious effect on some newly discovered region of the brain, making people want to kill -- but only in groups. (With whiskey, you might want to murder your girlfriend -- but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching. It's a buddy beverage -- for buddy activities.) Max Weber, defined statehood as âthe monopoly of the legitimate use of violenceâ. My favourite by FVZ: Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best. another favourite quote remains You can't be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline -- it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER. - FZ PS.: BTW His kind of fixation on the Bword F.V.Z. hilariousness in his scientificdescription **of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate: There's no question in my mind -- the beer, the balloons and the bunting all start with B for some Cosmic Reason. Bullshit also starts with a B. If you took Beer, Balloons and Bunting, then stirred in the Bullshit, you'd wind up with a scientific description of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate. Oh -- let's add Bourbon, Blow Jobs and the Bohemian Grove. **(beside Titties Beer because of the relative crudeness of the song is still another kind of beer, Zappaâs concerts were made up, more and more, of adolescent and college-age men who wanted to hear songs with dirty words in them. And in many ways, âTitties and Beerâ seems to be a very sly comment on this sort of attitude.IMHO ) hope the (turquoise)B are still in vino's Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure !
[FairfieldLife] Big Brother and the four fingers of the Space Brothers??
(Just killing time; not to be taken way to seriously!)
BB-Finland includes weekly tasks that really test
the patience and other psychic properties of the
contestants.
This week's task has a subtask where the
contestants need to count to ten repeatedly (ten
spoonfuls of some white powder into small plastic
bags).
To alleviate the bordom, some of them started
counting in various languages (Swedish, English,
Russian, Spanish...)
During this morning's TM session I recalled that,
and somehow it lead to me pondering (vicaara?) on the etymology
of the Finnish 'ten', which is 'kymmenen' ('y' as
'u' in French excuse moi). I seem to recall
that's associated with the word 'kämmen' (cam men), which
means 'hand'. Buh..but, one hand has only five fingers!
So, could it be, that 'kymmenen' is an obsolete dual
number word, meaning something like (the number of fingers in)
two hands?? Of the Uralic languages, to which
Finnish belongs, dual number is preserved(?) at
least in Samic, spoken in the northernmost parts of
Norway, Sweden(?), Finland and Russia.
Oddly enough, in Sanskrit the word meaning 'eight'
(aSTa ~= ashta) is, if not a part of a compound,
a dual number word; for instance, its nominative singular
is 'aSTau' where 'u' indicates the inflection in the
dual number. The nominative dual form 'aSTau' appears
for instance in the yoga-suutra:
yamaniyamaasanapraaNaayaamadhaaraNaadhyaanasamaadhayo 'STaav
an.gaani.
(The end without sandhi: aSTau; an.gaani).
So, somewhat playfully, one might translate 'aSTau' as
'two aSTa_s', like 'hastau' would be 'two hasta_s'.
Now, as many of us might well know, one of the Sanskrit
words for 'hand' is 'hasta'. The resemblance to 'aSTa'
might be quite striking!
So, two times four is eight (aSTau). Perhaps that's a proof
that the Space Brothers who created (inseminated?) Homo sapiens, had
only two times four fingers! LoL!
hasta m. hand (also as a measure of length), trunk (of an elephant), paw (of
a tiger) etc., N. of sev. men a lunar mansion; a. --- holding in the hand
(cf. {pANi3}); f. {ha3stA} hand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Brother and the four fingers of the Space Brothers??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
(Just killing time; not to be taken way to seriously!)
BB-Finland includes weekly tasks that really test
the patience and other psychic properties of the
contestants.
This week's task has a subtask where the
contestants need to count to ten repeatedly (ten
spoonfuls of some white powder into small plastic
bags).
To alleviate the bordom, some of them started
counting in various languages (Swedish, English,
Russian, Spanish...)
During this morning's TM session I recalled that,
and somehow it lead to me pondering (vicaara?) on the etymology
of the Finnish 'ten', which is 'kymmenen' ('y' as
'u' in French excuse moi). I seem to recall
that's associated with the word 'kämmen' (cam men), which
means 'hand'. Buh..but, one hand has only five fingers!
So, could it be, that 'kymmenen' is an obsolete dual
number word, meaning something like (the number of fingers in)
two hands?? Of the Uralic languages, to which
Finnish belongs, dual number is preserved(?) at
least in Samic, spoken in the northernmost parts of
Norway, Sweden(?), Finland and Russia.
Oddly enough, in Sanskrit the word meaning 'eight'
(aSTa ~= ashta) is, if not a part of a compound,
a dual number word; for instance, its nominative singular
is 'aSTau' where 'u' indicates the inflection in the
dual number. The nominative dual form 'aSTau' appears
for instance in the yoga-suutra:
yamaniyamaasanapraaNaayaamadhaaraNaadhyaanasamaadhayo 'STaav
an.gaani.
(The end without sandhi: aSTau; an.gaani).
OMG! Forgot 'pratyaahaara'!
So, somewhat playfully, one might translate 'aSTau' as
'two aSTa_s', like 'hastau' would be 'two hasta_s'.
Now, as many of us might well know, one of the Sanskrit
words for 'hand' is 'hasta'. The resemblance to 'aSTa'
might be quite striking!
So, two times four is eight (aSTau). Perhaps that's a proof
that the Space Brothers who created (inseminated?) Homo sapiens, had
only two times four fingers! LoL!
hasta m. hand (also as a measure of length), trunk (of an elephant), paw (of
a tiger) etc., N. of sev. men a lunar mansion; a. --- holding in the hand
(cf. {pANi3}); f. {ha3stA} hand.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siri vs. Japanese
Actually Siri only supports English, German , French at this time. What that means John is that it's very unlikely Siri will understand Japanese people mispronouncing English words. If that were the case Apple would have said Siri supports English, German, French and Asians trying to speak English... Sent from my iPad On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:29 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: That goes to show the machine is stupid and can't recognize differences in accents of human beings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=RiU8GPlsZqE WTF!?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Or, bring a tent to meditate in if you can't meditate in the domes. 7:30am and 5pm It would be a very large help if people would come and do their meditation in their cars in the parking lots outside by the Domes if they are not eligible any longer for getting in the domes. -Buck Om, the Dome numbers must really be on the skids. They have not updated the tallies since September. http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Live a life worth living together in all wealth and fulfillment and create a heavenly, affluent nation and world. Come to meditation right now! -Buck in FF The impulse of Occupy the Fairfield Domes is to support those laws of nature that will create comfort and abundance for everyone in society, supporting and nourishing all. The deepest level of nourishment is in establishing a base of massive spiritual coherence. With Massive support for Occupy Wall Street in many cities
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Or, bring a tent to meditate in if you can't meditate in the domes. 7:30am and 5pm It would be a very large help if people would come and do their meditation in their cars in the parking lots outside by the Domes if they are not eligible any longer for getting in the domes. -Buck Om, the Dome numbers must really be on the skids. They have not updated the tallies since September. http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html --- In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
The big bang is only theory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary world for the wave function to exist. This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. But God can create or destroy matter. I agree with this. Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has said in his career. IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that regard, he may be shrewd. He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? Yes, for the reasons given above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is associated with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary world for the wave function to exist. This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. But God can create or destroy matter. I agree with this. Then again, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has said in his career. IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that regard, he may be shrewd. He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? Yes, for the reasons given above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is associated with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... On the other hand, if you're actually meditating in your car outside the domes right now, and thus sticking the landing of your own schtick, 1) I hope you'll post a report of how that was for you as a subjective experience, 2) I'll apologize for any slight delivered to your fictional Buck persona, and 3) I'll send you a copy of this classic 60's bumper sticker so that you can put it on your car. [http://images2.cafepress.com/product/196742642v3_350x350_Front.jpg] :-) But I don't expect this to happen. As I've said many times before, if you were really serious about addressing the issue of people being kept out of the domes for spurious and almost certainly illegal reasons, you'd have gone to the press (or Oprah) and made a stink about it long before now. The fact that neither you nor anyone else has done this indicates to me that you're still completely guru-whipped, and all of this faux outrage is just that -- faux. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Or, bring a tent to meditate in if you
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: shocking description :little beer-drowned consciousness of B by nablusoss1008#292730 and related to #293725 what remains to be quoted (in thus context)?- :Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer A drug is neither moral nor immoral -- it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole. Zappa, Frank V. Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer: Consumption of it leads to pseudo-military behaviour. Think about it -- winos don't march. Whiskey guys don't march, either (sometimes they write poetry, which is often more horrible, though). Beer drinkers are into things that are sort of like marching -- like football. Maybe there's a chemical in beer that stimulates the [male] brain to do violence while moving in the same direction as other guys who smell like them [marching] -- We, as a group of MEN, will drink this refreshing liquid, after which we will get together and beat the snot out of that guy over there. Beer seems to produce behavioural results which are psycho-chemically different from those produced by other alcoholic beverages. Alcohol (the part that 'gets you drunk') is only one ingredient. There are other things in beer, and those [herbal and/or biological] components could affect the [male] brain, creating this violent tendency. Go ahead and laugh. One day you're going to read about some scientist discovering that hops, in conjunction with certain strains of 'yeast creatures,' has a mysterious effect on some newly discovered region of the brain, making people want to kill -- but only in groups. (With whiskey, you might want to murder your girlfriend -- but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching. It's a buddy beverage -- for buddy activities.) Max Weber, defined statehood as âthe monopoly of the legitimate use of violenceâ. My favourite by FVZ: Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best. another favourite quote remains You can't be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline -- it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER. - FZ PS.: BTW His kind of fixation on the Bword F.V.Z. hilariousness in his scientificdescription **of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate: There's no question in my mind -- the beer, the balloons and the bunting all start with B for some Cosmic Reason. Bullshit also starts with a B. If you took Beer, Balloons and Bunting, then stirred in the Bullshit, you'd wind up with a scientific description of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate. Oh -- let's add Bourbon, Blow Jobs and the Bohemian Grove. **(beside Titties Beer because of the relative crudeness of the song is still another kind of beer, Zappaâs concerts were made up, more and more, of adolescent and college-age men who wanted to hear songs with dirty words in them. And in many ways, âTitties and Beerâ seems to be a very sly comment on this sort of attitude.IMHO ) hope the (turquoise)B are still in vino's Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) What is wrong with titties?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA_j4ufWPE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... On the other hand, if you're actually meditating in your car outside the domes right now, and thus sticking the landing of your own schtick, 1) I hope you'll post a report of how that was for you as a subjective experience, 2) I'll apologize for any slight delivered to your fictional Buck persona, and 3) I'll send you a copy of this classic 60's bumper sticker so that you can put it on your car. [http://images2.cafepress.com/product/196742642v3_350x350_Front.jpg] :-) But I don't expect this to happen. As I've said many times before, if you were really serious about addressing the issue of people being kept out of the domes for spurious and almost certainly illegal reasons, you'd have gone to the press (or Oprah) and made a stink about it long before now. The fact that neither you nor anyone else has done this indicates to me that you're still completely guru-whipped, and all of this faux outrage is just that -- faux. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
I finally get it Barry. Doug is anti-meditation and an atheist. The Buck personna is the stinging satire on anyone who would believe that bouncing on their butts could influence the world. Doug's message is clear. We need to get off our butts, open our eyes, turn away from magical solutions to the world's real problems, and face reality. It all clicked when he told me to leave the blues behind. That was his wink, letting me know that we are working the same angle but he is doing it from the inside. So listen to the unambiguous message everyone. Stop repeating magical names of Gods, uncross your legs (especially the ladies) and join Doug and my mission to denounce all forms of superstitious rituals run by self-serving cult groups who are trying to drain your wallet after they have drained your cranium of independent thought. Avoid the domes of oppression all ye in Fairfield, throw off your rudraksha bead chains and join the movement to overthrow all Rajas who keep the people down. Chase all saints out of Fairfield or wherever they try to spread their poison message that assaults our American freedoms with promises of candylands in the sky. Now that I am on board fully I can translate his message so that no one misses his true intent. I had no idea how effective satire can be to enlighten (in the real way) the masses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... On the other hand, if you're actually meditating in your car outside the domes right now, and thus sticking the landing of your own schtick, 1) I hope you'll post a report of how that was for you as a subjective experience, 2) I'll apologize for any slight delivered to your fictional Buck persona, and 3) I'll send you a copy of this classic 60's bumper sticker so that you can put it on your car. [http://images2.cafepress.com/product/196742642v3_350x350_Front.jpg] :-) But I don't expect this to happen. As I've said many times before, if you were really serious about addressing the issue of people being kept out of the domes for spurious and almost certainly illegal reasons, you'd have gone to the press (or Oprah) and made a stink about it long before now. The fact that neither you nor anyone else has done this indicates to me that you're still completely guru-whipped, and all of this faux outrage is just that -- faux. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and
[FairfieldLife] The bookUnderstanding Women has arrived
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[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Today being, All Saints Day, your rant is well said and taken. Pardon my intervening, NOT THE RUDRAKSHAS! NO! I like banging them against a tree to relieve the negativity. I got mine for free! From Pandits! Or is that Pundits? Pandit or Pundit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I finally get it Barry. Doug is anti-meditation and an atheist. The Buck personna is the stinging satire on anyone who would believe that bouncing on their butts could influence the world. Doug's message is clear. We need to get off our butts, open our eyes, turn away from magical solutions to the world's real problems, and face reality. It all clicked when he told me to leave the blues behind. That was his wink, letting me know that we are working the same angle but he is doing it from the inside. So listen to the unambiguous message everyone. Stop repeating magical names of Gods, uncross your legs (especially the ladies) and join Doug and my mission to denounce all forms of superstitious rituals run by self-serving cult groups who are trying to drain your wallet after they have drained your cranium of independent thought. Avoid the domes of oppression all ye in Fairfield, throw off your rudraksha bead chains and join the movement to overthrow all Rajas who keep the people down. Chase all saints out of Fairfield or wherever they try to spread their poison message that assaults our American freedoms with promises of candylands in the sky. Now that I am on board fully I can translate his message so that no one misses his true intent. I had no idea how effective satire can be to enlighten (in the real way) the masses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... On the other hand, if you're actually meditating in your car outside the domes right now, and thus sticking the landing of your own schtick, 1) I hope you'll post a report of how that was for you as a subjective experience, 2) I'll apologize for any slight delivered to your fictional Buck persona, and 3) I'll send you a copy of this classic 60's bumper sticker so that you can put it on your car. [http://images2.cafepress.com/product/196742642v3_350x350_Front.jpg] :-) But I don't expect this to happen. As I've said many times before, if you were really serious about addressing the issue of people being kept out of the domes for spurious and almost certainly illegal reasons, you'd have gone to the press (or Oprah) and made a stink about it long before now. The fact that neither you nor anyone else has done this indicates to me that you're still completely guru-whipped, and all of this faux outrage is just that -- faux. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Barry, you ever seen an elephant dunk a basketball? You knew that Tony retired yesterday, right? Advice: Think of Steve Jobs when you design your next post. Make sure it's beautiful even on the inside where no one can see it. Mitt's special underwear lasted longer than poor Fred. In Joplin they really know how to cry now. I think it was those Kansas City fans who made Philip fumble, don't you? You gotta live so you can say Wow too. And what do you think Sylvia said to Ted at their invisible reunion? The perfect book for you: Learning to Die in Miami by Carlos Eire. Ayaan was very beautiful, and she wrote inside the first page. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat.. Actually, what Barry might say is, If someone has told you in no uncertain terms that they don't find either you or the things you say interesting, accept that and walk away. It seems to me that most of the noise on this forum is being made by people who can't do that. They react to being dismissed as uninteresting by acting even more needy and panicky -- and thus uninteresting -- than ever. It's a vicious samskaric circle. Get over it. If you're that needy, find someone who does think you're interesting enough to talk to and talk with them. Not gonna happen with me. This comment is directed towards Robin, Jim, Ravi, and Judy, and to no one else on this forum. Please catch a clue from it and stop acting like such attention vampires, Ok?
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about.
[FairfieldLife] The Book Understanding Women has finally arrived
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[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Book Understanding Women has finally arrived
I don't get it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: [http://womenonthefence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/understanding-wom\ en.jpg] http://womenonthefence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/understanding-wom\ en.jpg [:)]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Actually your comments on them, including in this post, demonstrate that you haven't read nearly enough. ME: You actually wrote that with a straight face? I have read more than enough, we just disagree on the perspective. I just pointed out some of the things you were missing. It isn't only perspective. Perspective is gained by choosing what to pay attention to and what to ignore, how to weight different things. I avoid them because they are kind of mean on both sides. And here's an example: They're always mean on Barry's side. But not on mine. Moreover, many of his mean posts about me and others *are addressed to you*. If I say something negative to you about Barry, you usually defend him. If he says something negative to you about me, you almost always just ignore it. ME: Your score card might be right. I try to pick my battles here like everyone else. It wouldn't surprise me if I had bias. Thanks for admitting you have double standards. Oh snap! How wicked. I have different standards for each poster here. For example if I post to Ravi, I know I am going to get a rash of abuse that I would not tolerate unanswered from you for example. When I interact with him, I now what I am dealing with and accept the limits of the interaction. Your attempt to frame my honest response as if it is the simple bad double standard is one of the limits that I accept when I interact with you. I know that many things I say will be twisted into something unflattering. I accept that and move on. But if say Steve tried that, I would give him a rash of shit back because I hold him to a higher standard of not pulling that crap with me. snip Just for one thing, if one were to read my posts that comment on Barry's, one would find that a significant number of them--I'd guess at least 50 percent--are not simply insults; quite a few are not insulting at all. Rather, they involve reasoned, noninflammatory analysis of points that Barry has made. ME: And often in demeaning language that is pretty much guarenteed to continue the ill will. And there's another example demonstrating that you haven't read enough to say. Heck, you didn't even read what *I* just said. Reasoned, noninflammatory analysis is the opposite of demeaning. ME: So you pick 50% as insulting. (Says Curtis, carefully ignoring my point about his mistake.) I am rejecting your attempt to characterize your responses that way. It is self serving claptrap. Those are mostly the ones responding to his insults to me. And as prolific as you are here, and as Barry focused, that 50% number is mindnumbingly high. Barry routinely lies about the percentage of my posts that are about him. OK so give me the exact number I should subtract from mindnumbingly high to get to the right number. snip Barry's posts having to do with me are *always* demeaning. ME: No need to argue with this, it sounds right. I'll take your word that this is how you feel about all of them. No, you're saying it wrong. They're *objectively* demeaning. Here is where we part company. You don't seem to realize your own biases here. I have seen you take grave offense over things which I don't view the way you do. So sorry if I don't take your opinion as an objective gold standard on Barry. (You might be a teensy bit biased in that case.) There are other lopsided elements as well. I don't *make up* stuff about Barry, for instance. And this. ME: He gets your goat by talking trash. Gets a rise every time. So it's perfectly OK for him to lie about me (and others) if it gets a rise out of us? Let's discuss the concept of OK because this is a key to understanding how our POVs differ here. On a public board in a free country, it is OK for anyone to express any opinion, even one that is unflattering. If you want to understand the meaning of freedom of speech rights, explore them with someone whose opinion you disagree with. That same right allows you to counter that POV with your own. If you are equating personal preference with OK then I would prefer that all of us would be truthful and loving at all times here. But if you mean OK as in, it is horrible that he expresses something that I believe is untrue so that I have no choice but to dog him out over every perceived transgression...I say go for it girl, Have fun with that and don't try to portray it as some ethical duty revealing your virtue and that anyone who does not join your mission as having lower ethical standards. Boy, I'd like to see how you'd react if he were lying about you day
[FairfieldLife] Re: GREAT ARTICLE
The following document is the result of the Salon staff's brainstorming, A New Declaration of Independence for Occupy Wall Street: 1. Debt relief Total household debt in America is $13.3 trillion 114 percent of after-tax income. That millions of working Americans owe every penny they make to hugely profitable financial institutions is absurd and grotesque. We demand immediate relief for the 99 Percent, particularly the poor and young students and college graduates. 2. A substantial jobs program A real, direct jobs program, done in the WPA style, would rebuild our cities and towns in addition to putting thousands of people back to work. 3. A healthcare public option If a true single-payer system would be too disruptive, we can put the building blocks in place by giving people a public option. Expanding the pool of Medicare recipients to include healthy younger people paying into it would instantly improve the program's fiscal outlook. 4. Reregulate Wall Street Bring back Glass-Steagall. Pass the Volcker rule, too. Ban banks from trading derivatives. Limit their behavior and tax their earnings. 5. End the Global War on Terror and rein in the defense budget. Brown University estimates that our wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan have cost 236,000 lives and $4 trillion. Read more: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/31/a_new_declaration_of_independence/singleton/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: Occupy Wall Street: No Demand is Big Enough By Charles Eisenstein Created 10/06/2011 - 08:31 Feature Looking out upon the withered American Dream, many of us feel a deep sense of betrayal. Unemployment, financial insecurity, and lifelong enslavement to debt are just the tip of the iceberg. We don't want to merely fix the growth machine and bring profit and product to every corner of the earth. We want to fundamentally change the course of civilization. For the American Dream betrayed even those who achieved it, lonely in their overtime careers and their McMansions, narcotized to the ongoing ruination of nature and culture but aching because of it, endlessly consuming and accumulating to quell the insistent voice, I wasn't put here on earth to sell product. I wasn't put here on earth to increase market share. I wasn't put here on earth to make numbers grow. We protest not only at our exclusion from the American Dream; we protest at its bleakness. If it cannot include everyone on earth, every ecosystem and bioregion, every people and culture in its richness; if the wealth of one must be the debt of another; if it entails sweatshops and underclasses and fracking and all the rest of the ugliness our system has created, then we want none of it. No one deserves to live in a world built upon the degradation of human beings, forests, waters, and the rest of our living planet. Speaking to our brethren on Wall Street, no one deserves to spend their lives playing with numbers while the world burns. Ultimately, we are protesting not only on behalf of the 99% left behind, but on behalf of the 1% as well. We have no enemies. We want everyone to wake up to the beauty of what we can create. Occupy Wall Street has been criticized for its lack of clear demands, but how do we issue demands, when what we really want is nothing less than the more beautiful world our hearts tell us is possible? No demand is big enough. We could make lists of demands for new public policies: tax the wealthy, raise the minimum wage, protect the environment, end the wars, regulate the banks. While we know these are positive steps, they aren't quite what motivated people to occupy Wall Street. What needs attention is something deeper: the power structures, ideologies, and institutions that prevented these steps from being taken years ago; indeed, that made these steps even necessary. Our leaders are beholden to impersonal forces, such as that of money, that compel them to do what no sane human being would choose. Disconnected from the actual effects of their policies, they live in a world of insincerity and pretense. It is time to bring a countervailing force to bear, and not just a force but a call. Our message is, Stop pretending. You know what to do. Start doing it. Occupy Wall Street is about exposing the truth. We can trust its power. When a policeman pepper sprays helpless women, we don't beat him up and scare him into not doing it again; we show the world. Much worse than pepper spray is being perpetrated on our planet in service of money. Let us allow nothing happening on earth to be hidden. If politicians are disconnected from the real world of human suffering and ecosystem collapse, all the more disconnected are the financial wizards of Wall Street. Behind their computer screens, they occupy a world of pure symbol, manipulating numbers and computer bits. Occupy Wall Street punctures their bubble of
[FairfieldLife] HUP in the Rgveda, part 1
(Hopefully, everybody even in Minnesota knows by now, what the heck the naasadiiya-suukta is...) The last verse of the naasadiiya goes like this: i\`yaM visR^i\'ShTi\`ryata\' Aba\`bhUva\` yadi\' vA da\`dhe yadi\' vA\` na | yo a\`syAdhya\'kShaH para\`me vyo\'ma\`nso a\`~Nga ve\'da\` yadi\' vA\` na veda\' || 10\.129\.07 The same, accents (udaatta, anudaatta, svarita) not indicated: iyaM visRSTiryata AbabhUva yadi vA dadhe yadi vA na | yo asyAdhyakShaH parame vyomanso a~Nga veda yadi vA na veda || 10.129.07 Attempt at pada-paaTha (word reading): iyam; visRSTiH; yataH; AbabhUva yadi vA dadhe yadi vA na | yaH; asya+adhi'akShaH parame vi'oman [OMG!] saH; a~Nga veda yadi vA na veda || Ralph T.H. Griffith's translation (1896): 7 He, the first origin of this creation, whether he formed it all or did not form it, Whose eye controls this world in highest heaven, he verily knows it, or perhaps he knows not. Macdonell's translation (1917): Whence this creation has arisen; whether he founded it or did not: he who in the highest heaven is its surveyor, he only knows, or else he knows not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
ME: There are examples. Jim and I authfriend: This isn't an example that relates to what I just wrote. Barry can't stand any kind of criticism, he just goes bat-shit crazy when you do that. Barry is also very prejudiced about people in general. As a spiritual teacher Barry sucks, big time. Where I come from, when others are silent, that usually indicates agreement. But remember, the guilty always scream the loudest. LoL! As some have noticed, I have a low tolerance threshold when it comes to idiots who show up on Internet forums I frequent and bring a hidden agenda with them. I suspect everybody does, but it is more obvious in my case because I am often merciless about insulting these idiots and ripping them a new asshole verbally. Here's why. It saves time. So my theory is that I just lay into them hard -- insult them, make fun of them, do everything I possibly can to push their buttons. And what happens? Because they have an agenda, they always react angrily, and in that anger stop trying to *hide* their agenda. They start saying things and revealing things that otherwise might have taken weeks for everybody to figure out. It's a neat technique. I highly recommend it. It saves time... From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Agendananda Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: February 16, 2003
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: And don't think I haven't noted your own lack of intervening when the guns are pointed my way unfairly. Whose guns, Nabby's? Is he still hurt because I called his music hillbilly ?? You cut out the most insulting part where she said: Get real. Apparently you have no guns according to Judy, Nabbie. But back to my least favorite insult here. You Euros and Brits so often get this wrong and it is maddening to a blues preservationist. This is why we got that abomination of the Rolling Stones cover of Robert Johnson's Love in Vain in a white country style! Hillbilly music was influenced by Irish and Scottish immigrants and their folk music. African Americans invented the blues style. Hank Williams might be seen as an intersection of country and black blues and of course the early Elvis. Then you have some early bluesmen like Tommy Johnson throwing in some yodeling into their blues mixing the styles a bit. But the music I perform comes from the black side of the tracks. There is zero hillbilly influence. So tell me my music sucks or that I am an inept musician all you want. Claim that my blues is terrible in every way that blues can be rated. But calling it hillbilly music is like calling it disco. It blurs the lines that my life is dedicated to maintaining. The essence of the pure Delta non hillbilly blues Gets me every time Nabby but thanks for another opportunity to rant about my favorite topic so I really can't get mad at you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GREAT ARTICLE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: johnlasher20002000: The god they serve, the financial system, is a dying god... If inequality had really exploded during the past 30 to 40 years, why did American politics simultaneously move rightward toward a greater embrace of free-market capitalism? Because propaganda works. Shouldn't just the opposite have happened as beleaguered workers united and demanded a vastly expanded social safety net and sharply higher taxes on the rich? What happened to presidents Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry? Propaganda works. Even Barack Obama ran for president as a market friendly, third-way technocrat. Nope, the story doesn't hold together because the financial facts don't support it... Nope, because the AEI lies about the financial facts and people like willytex believe their lies...because propaganda works. '5 reasons why income inequality is a myth and Occupy Wall Street is wrong' http://tinyurl.com/63f6ukv Columbia Journalism Review has a takedown of a study from American Enterprise Institute purporting to show that inequality hasn't increased, after all. What's striking is the way AEI doesn't even resort to the usual practice of concocting misleading numbers; it just flat-out lies about what various other peoples' research, like Robert Gordon's work, actually says. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/29/denial-in-depth/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Curtis to Judy: He gets your goat by talking trash... maskedzebra: But the Barry thing will always strike a false note to me. Well, maybe not a false note, but a song that seems consciously off-key... Whatever you do, do not ever question Barry's status as the world's greatest spiritual teacher, because Barry has 'walked the walk', 'been there and done that'. Barry has read over 200 books on the Cathars! Excerpts from my first dialogs with Barry: From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Question for Delia -- Catharism Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-09-11 01:26:49 PST Willy, Willy, Willy, you're such an idiot sometimes it actually inspires awe. :-) I'm not interested in cheap, cheezy shit you can find on the Net about the Cathars... From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Open Letter To Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-08-06 08:53:26 PST Willy, since fucking prairie dogs or whatever you do with your time doesn't seem to fill enough of it lately, and you've been going out of your way to associate me with Rama and thus with a big, bad cult figure, I figure I should explain a couple of things...
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. Babies want them for need. What did you do in your childhood with titties? Now that is strange. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-) Abundance and strange go hand in hand. For instance and hypothetically, Nabby, I would worry more about being stuck on a non moving train in a snow storm in the middle of the plains, with you, than the Turq. lol. Nabby would want to cuddle up to keep warm, yet his brain would say, Woman stay over there and I stay over here, because, ohhh, can't disrespect the titties, I mean woman. But I need to stay warm, what the hell, let's do it while we are at it too. Turq would say, It is fuckin cold, we need to stay warm. Let us cuddle till we can figure out how to get help. Turq may offer his wandering hands, at least with the excuse that massage will stimulate warmth. Then if it got even colder, and hypothermia starts to present itself, he would then lose his cool by warming by whatever means were necessary and be able to get his way at that moment. Judy would keep warm, with male or female with practicality. So would Denise. So would I. Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman. Raunchy would roll her eyes and do what is practical too. Bob Price would say, Where is my wife? What would she do? Curtisblues would say, Hell yeah! Buck says, We should have been freezing in the domes, instead of on this stupid train. Merudanda would explain the concept of what all the possibilities and allow the choices to be shared with the woman. Yifu would post pictures from his Iphone and stare across the room waiting to get the nerve to cuddle to keep warm. If I forgot anyone, not intentional, go ahead and add to this list. : )
[FairfieldLife] Re: One statistic that explains all of America's problems
Funny cartoon. Of course it also pushes my buttons in reinforcing the stereotype that blues is bummer music for the down and out rather than the purest expression of the full range of human emotions! Kings can't play blues, white boys can't play blues Ignoring that the blues performers themselves had escaped the sharecropper oppression system and were partying their asses off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me there is meat for a good blues song in this, Curtis. Or at the very least a great bit to add to your busking chatter. Still, it's better than having to perform in Fairfield: [http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/302440704826012e126700163e41dd5b] :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: 1 out of 12 residents of Washington, D.C. are lawyers. D.C. Has Nation's Highest Concentration Of Lawyers WASHINGTON -- While it's no secret that the nation's capital is full of lawyers, a new study gives a better picture as to just how many District of Columbia residents are out there with JDs. According to the Examiner http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/10/dc-lawyer-capital-world#\ \ ixzz1cMrErT7M : An astounding one in 12 District residents -- by far the highest rate nationwide -- is a lawyer, according to American Bar Association and census figures. Put another way: The nation's capital accounts for just one-fifth of 1 percent of the U.S. population but one in every 25 of its lawyers. Still, while that number is high, there may not be as many employed lawyers in the city as there once were. As Washington City Paper reported in June, D.C. Chief Financial Officer Natwar Gandhi warned D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray and D.C. Council Chairman Kwame Brown that fewer employed lawyers meant less money for city coffers http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2011/06/22/time-to-p\ \ anic-fewer-lawyers-in-d-c/ . In his letter, Gandhi wrote: Another concern is there are fewer lawyers working in the District in April 2011 than last year and fewer than 3 years ago when the recession began. Law firms are key tenants in the commercial office market that is supporting the commercial property values and contributing the most to the increase in deed taxes. Unless this sector rebounds, it is not clear who will occupy new office space. According to the ABA study, while 1 in 12 D.C. residents are lawyers, 1 in 259 Maryland residents are lawyers; in Virginia, 1 in 354 residents are lawyers. The national average, the Examiner reports, is 1 in 260.
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. Babies want them for need. What did you do in your childhood with titties? Now that is strange. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-) Abundance and strange go hand in hand. For instance and hypothetically, Nabby, I would worry more about being stuck on a non moving train in a snow storm in the middle of the plains, with you, than the Turq. lol. Nabby would want to cuddle up to keep warm, yet his brain would say, Woman stay over there and I stay over here, because, ohhh, can't disrespect the titties, I mean woman. But I need to stay warm, what the hell, let's do it while we are at it too. Turq would say, It is fuckin cold, we need to stay warm. Let us cuddle till we can figure out how to get help. Turq may offer his wandering hands, at least with the excuse that massage will stimulate warmth. Then if it got even colder, and hypothermia starts to present itself, he would then lose his cool by warming by whatever means were necessary and be able to get his way at that moment. Judy would keep warm, with male or female with practicality. So would Denise. So would I. Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman. Raunchy would roll her eyes and do what is practical too. Bob Price would say, Where is my wife? What would she do? Curtisblues would say, Hell yeah! Buck says, We should have been freezing in the domes, instead of on this stupid train. Merudanda would explain the concept of what all the possibilities and allow the choices to be shared with the woman. Yifu would post pictures from his Iphone and stare across the room waiting to get the nerve to cuddle to keep warm. If I forgot anyone, not intentional, go ahead and add to this list. : ) Tip; Yellow pages; psyciatrist
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:36 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: And don't think I haven't noted your own lack of intervening when the guns are pointed my way unfairly. Whose guns, Nabby's? Is he still hurt because I called his music hillbilly ?? You cut out the most insulting part where she said: Get real. Apparently you have no guns according to Judy, Nabbie. But back to my least favorite insult here. You Euros and Brits so often get this wrong and it is maddening to a blues preservationist. This is why we got that abomination of the Rolling Stones cover of Robert Johnson's Love in Vain in a white country style! Hillbilly music was influenced by Irish and Scottish immigrants and their folk music. African Americans invented the blues style. Hank Williams might be seen as an intersection of country and black blues and of course the early Elvis. Then you have some early bluesmen like Tommy Johnson throwing in some yodeling into their blues mixing the styles a bit. But the music I perform comes from the black side of the tracks. There is zero hillbilly influence. So tell me my music sucks or that I am an inept musician all you want. Claim that my blues is terrible in every way that blues can be rated. But calling it hillbilly music is like calling it disco. It blurs the lines that my life is dedicated to maintaining. The essence of the pure Delta non hillbilly blues Gets me every time Nabby but thanks for another opportunity to rant about my favorite topic so I really can't get mad at you. Howsabowt Deltabilly? Two hillbillies walk into a bar. While having a shot of whisky, they talk about their moonshine operation. Suddenly, a woman at a nearby table, who is eating a sandwich, begins to cough. And, after a minute or so, it becomes apparent that she is in real distress. One of the hillbillies looks at her and says, Kin ya swallar? The woman shakes her head no. Then he asks, Kin ya breathe? The woman begins to turn blue and shakes her head no. The hillbilly walks over to the woman, lifts up her dress, yanks down her drawers and quickly gives her right butt cheek a lick with his tongue. The woman is so shocked that she has a violent spasm and the obstruction flies out of her mouth. Saved! As she begins to breathe again, the Hillbilly walks slowly back to the bar. His friend says, Ya know, I'd heerd of that there 'Hind Lick Maneuver' but I ain't niver seed nobody do it!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon Hawking also thinks that the potential existence of other lifeforms in the universe undermines the traditional religious conviction that we are living on a unique, God-created planet. But there is no proof that other lifeforms are out there, and Hawking certainly does not present any. ME: Correct, it is a probability but there is not direct proof. His establishing this as a critical criteria will be useful below. It always amuses me that atheists often argue for the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence beyond earth. Yet they are only too eager to denounce the possibility that we already have a vast, intelligent being out there: God. ME: Deceptive presentation. First of all I have only heard people say that it is likely or probably that this is not the only planet in the universe that could support life. And that is a fact. There is no reason that there are not many planets with conditions to support life in the universe. But then he makes his error worse by comparing this to the God idea. The big difference is that we already have proof that life exists. And we know what conditions are needed for carbon based life. So it is a small leap to assume that on one of the likely planets with similar conditions, other life forms have developed. We even understand the mechanism of how life developed here. We just don't definitively now how it started. No one is saying that God is not possible. This is a typical staw man switchero. Atheist say we lack evidence to support the belief now, which was coincidentally a criteria he was more than happy to apply to the lack of direct evidence for other life forms in the universe. We have a mystery, how did life begin? Religious people rename this mystery God, and add nothing to our understanding. They offer us conflicting texts of God's communication with man, and actually kill each other over who has the right God instructions. Renaming the mystery of life God is like renaming short people vertically challenged. Maybe it makes a few people feel better, but they still aren't getting on the basketball team or pulling the hottest chicks. (Unless they balance their lack of height with wallet thickness or fame. Yeah, I'm talking to you Tom short stack Cruise.) Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You-explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cSu1bLfj
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
whynotnow was taking a taxi to the train, but inexplicably, the cab ran out of gas, and by the time the station was reached, he had missed the train.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. Babies want them for need. What did you do in your childhood with titties? Now that is strange. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-) Abundance and strange go hand in hand. For instance and hypothetically, Nabby, I would worry more about being stuck on a non moving train in a snow storm in the middle of the plains, with you, than the Turq. lol. Nabby would want to cuddle up to keep warm, yet his brain would say, Woman stay over there and I stay over here, because, ohhh, can't disrespect the titties, I mean woman. But I need to stay warm, what the hell, let's do it while we are at it too. Turq would say, It is fuckin cold, we need to stay warm. Let us cuddle till we can figure out how to get help. Turq may offer his wandering hands, at least with the excuse that massage will stimulate warmth. Then if it got even colder, and hypothermia starts to present itself, he would then lose his cool by warming by whatever means were necessary and be able to get his way at that moment. Judy would keep warm, with male or female with practicality. So would Denise. So would I. Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman. Raunchy would roll her eyes and do what is practical too. Bob Price would say, Where is my wife? What would she do? Curtisblues would say, Hell yeah! Buck says, We should have been freezing in the domes, instead of on this stupid train. Merudanda would explain the concept of what all the possibilities and allow the choices to be shared with the woman. Yifu would post pictures from his Iphone and stare across the room waiting to get the nerve to cuddle to keep warm. If I forgot anyone, not intentional, go ahead and add to this list. : )
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
Brilliant! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: whynotnow was taking a taxi to the train, but inexplicably, the cab ran out of gas, and by the time the station was reached, he had missed the train.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. Babies want them for need. What did you do in your childhood with titties? Now that is strange. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-) Abundance and strange go hand in hand. For instance and hypothetically, Nabby, I would worry more about being stuck on a non moving train in a snow storm in the middle of the plains, with you, than the Turq. lol. Nabby would want to cuddle up to keep warm, yet his brain would say, Woman stay over there and I stay over here, because, ohhh, can't disrespect the titties, I mean woman. But I need to stay warm, what the hell, let's do it while we are at it too. Turq would say, It is fuckin cold, we need to stay warm. Let us cuddle till we can figure out how to get help. Turq may offer his wandering hands, at least with the excuse that massage will stimulate warmth. Then if it got even colder, and hypothermia starts to present itself, he would then lose his cool by warming by whatever means were necessary and be able to get his way at that moment. Judy would keep warm, with male or female with practicality. So would Denise. So would I. Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman. Raunchy would roll her eyes and do what is practical too. Bob Price would say, Where is my wife? What would she do? Curtisblues would say, Hell yeah! Buck says, We should have been freezing in the domes, instead of on this stupid train. Merudanda would explain the concept of what all the possibilities and allow the choices to be shared with the woman. Yifu would post pictures from his Iphone and stare across the room waiting to get the nerve to cuddle to keep warm. If I forgot anyone, not intentional, go ahead and add to this list. : )
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Speak Well of Others
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:00 AM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Maharishi: Speak Well of Others I'm responding to Rick's OP, which I did not receive. Yup, I remember in Slaughter House Westheimer, the Houston TM center, above the meat market there was a really gigantic poster of Maharishi saying something like Ours is not to criticize but only to adore. I found it telling because Jane Hopson had the inner spirit of Sadam Hussein. Evil, hateful, spiteful, dictatorial, all covered over with a false smile. She ran off any governor who didn't fit in with her Hitlerian approach to people. I found it so very wry. Just like showing up in Fort Worth for a 4th of July residence course with the air conditioners blown out from a power surge, it being the hottest on record with rolling load sharing. We were once again reminded that TM makes us flexible. No one was told about the lack of AC in the 110 F degree weather 'til we checked in though it had been known by the coordinators for days. Maharishi had all of these sweet sayings. Did he follow them when not on tape? Did he follow them when on tape? No. Did the initiators use them to gloss over their screw ups? You betcha! More Maharishi sez but doesn't do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Frank Zappa was a great man and musician ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc96Wiq9Odcfeature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmeznspMIc Beer and titties and treating women in a low way certainly reminds us of a certain fellow here. According to the him beer is the rule. As the americans says: Go figure ! Did Frank Zappa learn TM? Ofcourse ! That is awesome. When did he learn? Yes, Frank Zappa is the shit and is sic! (that means cool or groovy in more modern times, Nabby.) OK Okay. : ) What is wrong with titties? Always loved them but not pathological like certain fellows :-) Past tense use, says a lot, Nabby. : ) Pardon my english, but isn't childhood something in the past, for most people ? Regarding the here and now I still love them. Babies want them for need. What did you do in your childhood with titties? Now that is strange. : ) From experience, I have found the men who talk about titties, usually are more respectful one on one with the ladies, and the ones who are quieter about titties, are the ones the ladies have to worry about. You seem to meet some strange men... :-) Abundance and strange go hand in hand. For instance and hypothetically, Nabby, I would worry more about being stuck on a non moving train in a snow storm in the middle of the plains, with you, than the Turq. lol. Nabby would want to cuddle up to keep warm, yet his brain would say, Woman stay over there and I stay over here, because, ohhh, can't disrespect the titties, I mean woman. But I need to stay warm, what the hell, let's do it while we are at it too. Turq would say, It is fuckin cold, we need to stay warm. Let us cuddle till we can figure out how to get help. Turq may offer his wandering hands, at least with the excuse that massage will stimulate warmth. Then if it got even colder, and hypothermia starts to present itself, he would then lose his cool by warming by whatever means were necessary and be able to get his way at that moment. Judy would keep warm, with male or female with practicality. So would Denise. So would I. Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman. Raunchy would roll her eyes and do what is practical too. Bob Price would say, Where is my wife? What would she do? Curtisblues would say, Hell yeah! Buck says, We should have been freezing in the domes, instead of on this stupid train. Merudanda would explain the concept of what all the possibilities and allow the choices to be shared with the woman. Yifu would post pictures from his Iphone and stare across the room waiting to get the nerve to cuddle to keep warm. If I forgot anyone, not intentional, go ahead and add to this list. : ) Tip; Yellow pages; psyciatrist Get back out in the cornfields with the 2-4 PVC SCH40 extensions, or a balancing rod retired from a high wire walker, you crop circular you. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat.. Actually, what Barry might say is, If someone has told you in no uncertain terms that they don't find either you or the things you say interesting, accept that and walk away. And if Barry were to say this, people might wonder: If he doesn't find them and the things they say interesting and counsels them to accept that and walk away, why is it that he can't seem to ignore them or to stop himself from insulting them day after day after day? He even boasts about 'pushing their buttons' and declares that he does it to get them to respond. Sounds very much as though he's incapable of walking his own talk.
[FairfieldLife] disagreements, feuding, and all-out war at FFL
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Re: [FairfieldLife] One statistic that explains all of America's problems
On 11/01/2011 01:41 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 1 out of 12 residents of Washington, D.C. are lawyers. D.C. Has Nation's Highest Concentration Of Lawyers WASHINGTON -- While it's no secret that the nation's capital is full of lawyers, a new study gives a better picture as to just how many District of Columbia residents are out there with JDs. According to the Examiner http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/10/dc-lawyer-capital-world#\ ixzz1cMrErT7M : An astounding one in 12 District residents -- by far the highest rate nationwide -- is a lawyer, according to American Bar Association and census figures. Put another way: The nation's capital accounts for just one-fifth of 1 percent of the U.S. population but one in every 25 of its lawyers. Still, while that number is high, there may not be as many employed lawyers in the city as there once were. As Washington City Paper reported in June, D.C. Chief Financial Officer Natwar Gandhi warned D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray and D.C. Council Chairman Kwame Brown that fewer employed lawyers meant less money for city coffers http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2011/06/22/time-to-p\ anic-fewer-lawyers-in-d-c/ . In his letter, Gandhi wrote: Another concern is there are fewer lawyers working in the District in April 2011 than last year and fewer than 3 years ago when the recession began. Law firms are key tenants in the commercial office market that is supporting the commercial property values and contributing the most to the increase in deed taxes. Unless this sector rebounds, it is not clear who will occupy new office space. According to the ABA study, while 1 in 12 D.C. residents are lawyers, 1 in 259 Maryland residents are lawyers; in Virginia, 1 in 354 residents are lawyers. The national average, the Examiner reports, is 1 in 260. Lawyers have tied the country up in knots. Ever tried to understand those terms and conditions you often have to accept in order to use some software or an online service. And though many of those used to be innocuous and were basically don't blame us if something goes wrong using our software now they may stick you with things you don't really want. Much of this authoritarian crap that we've seen since 9-11 has been lawyers saying better do this or you'll get sued. It was once said by someone (and it is unsure if that person ever actually said it) that the country would legislate itself to death as democracies in history have done before. And that is what we are seeing these days.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: In Time
The film is a retelling of Robin Hood replete with Robin, Maid Marion, The King and the Sheriff of Nottingham with time being the riches. I liked Niccol's other films but particularly Lord of War. Interesting to see it set in a future Los Angeles but it alway seems there is only one bridge in LA as car chases keep going over that same damn bridge. Something to be said to taking some productions out of tinsel town. I think the time being wealth device works really well because it is life threatening and engages the audience more than if it were just money. This film will be a cult favorite as a film of the times which on my list includes The Company Men and Margin Call. Being that Fox is the distributor hard to say when you'll see it on DVD/BD or even streaming. It was my Halloween Escape movie. On 10/30/2011 12:59 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Still tripping on this movie somewhat, it strikes me that what is interesting about it is the very thing that I find interesting in other good science fiction. That is, the minutiae of everyday life that would be taken for granted if you suspend disbelief and assume that the assumptions in the film are true. What would be the *environment* created by a world in which you can live forever, if you can afford to? Niccol's film does IMO more justice to these minutiae than it does to important things like plot and good storytelling. For example, he just *nails* the insight that the first thing that would happen to the rich who realize that they can live forever would be paranoia about being killed or accidentally dying. The rich in this film really feel that they cannot go anywhere or do anything unless 1) it is in their own exclusive, protected neighborhood (time zone in the film), and 2) that they can't even do that unless accompanied by one or more bodyguards. That is SO what they'd do. Another detail is that they'd be bored shitless by their lives. Living in a protective bubble is as dissatisfying in this fictional world as living in Fairfield or any other pseudo-utopia is in the real one. I really liked the detail in the film of real do-gooders opening time shelters where those whose clocks are about to run out can come and get a handout of another day of life. That was real. People in such a world would do that. And they'd be the only ones worth knowing and hanging with. I also loved the detail of how the richest man in the world, the New Greenwich zillionaire whose net worth consists of literally millions of years of time, refuses to pay a ransom for his daughter, to save her life. I've known people in Greenwich CT who would do the same thing. Their responsibility to their shareholders overrides their responsibility to their family. And I liked the idea of a kind of time poker. Two people sit down at a table, link wrists so as to exchange time credits with each other, and play the game all in. That is, the first person to run out of credits dies...right there, on the spot. And I like the hero of the movie's insight into how to always win. That's really it, and the secret that the samurai knew. To be undefeatable in a battle to the death, you have to be comfortable with having already died. Those who are attached to life never are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote: Pardon me, buddy, but can I bum four minutes for a cup of coffee? That's a line that you might hear in the time ghettos of the world portrayed in Andrew Niccol's In Time. As he demonstrated in The Truman Show and Gattaca and S1mone, Niccol has a different relationship with reality than most of us. In the world of In Time, humans have a genetically-engineered expiration date. As they turn 25, a digital readout on their arms starts counting down the year they've got left. When the clock runs out, they die. Except that this only happens to some of them. You can extend your lifespan you see, by earning or borrowing or stealing time from someone else. If you're from the poor time zones, when your countdown clock starts approaching zero you work double shifts to keep the grim reaper away. If you're from New Greenwich, and come from time in the same way that people in Greenwich CT come from money, your readout probably has hundreds of years on it, and you can effectively live forever. One of the perks of this is that when you buy time after turning 25, you stop aging. This leads to a few WTF moments such as Olivia Wilde playing Justin Timberlake's mother :-), but is also funny when, after scoring a shitload of time, he attends a New Greenwich party and is introduced to the host's mother, wife, and daughter, all of whom appear to be the same age. All of this could make for an interesting movie, especially set against the OWS rich-vs-poor dramas we see all around us these days. The concepts are certainly there to work with. Sadly, I'm not convinced that Niccol did as much with them as he
[FairfieldLife] Judge tells Tennessee to stop arresting Occupy protesters
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Vampire - No Attention - yes, love it !!! Interesting - Yes Vicious Samskaric Cycles - No Panicky - No Needy - Tricky question Sort of..needy of my beloved's love Thank you. On Nov 1, 2011, at 12:40 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: What I find unfortunate is that the rancor drives people away. I suppose Barry might say, if you can't stand the heat.. Actually, what Barry might say is, If someone has told you in no uncertain terms that they don't find either you or the things you say interesting, accept that and walk away. It seems to me that most of the noise on this forum is being made by people who can't do that. They react to being dismissed as uninteresting by acting even more needy and panicky -- and thus uninteresting -- than ever. It's a vicious samskaric circle. Get over it. If you're that needy, find someone who does think you're interesting enough to talk to and talk with them. Not gonna happen with me. This comment is directed towards Robin, Jim, Ravi, and Judy, and to no one else on this forum. Please catch a clue from it and stop acting like such attention vampires, Ok?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: The big bang is only theory. The scientists are still puzzled why their equations break down at the singularity point. Another professor opined that the Quantum Cosmology Theory eliminates the problems at the singularity point. So, there you have it. This is true. But it's the best theory around to describe the universe for now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary world for the wave function to exist. This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. But God can create or destroy matter. I agree with this. Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has said in his career. IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that regard, he may be shrewd. He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? Yes, for the reasons given above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is associated with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon
[FairfieldLife] Late night political jokes
In a new interview, Rick Perry said it was a mistake for him to participate in the presidential debates. Perry said 'I'm not one of these 'word talkers.''' –Conan O'Brienhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-conan-jokes.htm Michele Bachmann said she wants her three daughters to learn to shoot a gun. Mostly so they can put her campaign out of its misery. –Conan O'Brien* * Rick Perry is now behind in the polls and he's not taking it well. Today he executed his pollster. –David Lettermanhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-david-letterman-jokes.htm Hillary Clinton turns 64 years old today. Happy birthday. Today, Donald Trump demanded to see her birth certificate. –David Letterman * *A couple of days ago they found (Moammar Gadhafi) hiding in a storm sewer, and they pulled him out and killed him. … In three years, he would have been eligible for his pension! … Yep and he left his entire wardrobe to Lady Gaga. –David Letterman * * In an interview last night, Rick Perry criticized Mitt Romney for flip-flopping on the issues. Romney said that Perry has no idea what he's talking about. Then he added, 'But he does know what he's talking about.' –Jimmy Fallon http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jimmy-fallon-jokes.htm * *Michele Bachmann told reporters that she will lead the nation in prayer if she is elected president. You know if she is elected president, we all better be praying. She doesn’t have to lead us. –Jay Leno* *We had President Obama on the show last night. I think the president enjoys visiting NBC because we're the only place that has lower numbers than he does. –Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm According to polls, Rick Perry has now fallen to fifth place. You know who is in fourth place? Carrot Top. –Jay Leno The McRib is back. You know, I wondered what they were going to do with Gadhafi's body. –Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm David Letterman's Top Ten Things Overheard At Moammar Gadhafi's Funeral * * 10. 'Honestly, how the heck did he spell his name?' 9. 'It's a shame he didn't live long enough to promote himself above colonel' 8. 'Is it too soon to hit on the Ukrainian nurse?' 7. 'After the services, come back to the house for cake' 6. 'Where's his hot daughter Kim?' 5. 'And now, a few words from Moammar's closest friend, Loni Anderson' 4. 'At least he died doing what he loved best — begging for mercy in a storm drain' 3. 'Incoming!' 2. 'Nice of Leno to send flowers' 1. 'Let's bury this guy' Herman Cainhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/politicalcartoons/ig/Political-Cartoons/Plan-999-Outer-Space.htmand Newt Gingrichhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/Newt-Gingrich-Jokes.htmsaid that next month they're going to take part in a Lincoln-Douglas style debate. The only similarity to the actual Lincoln-Douglas debates is that no one will watch them on television. –Conan O'Brienhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-conan-jokes.htm Michele Bachmann'shttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/Michele-Bachmann-Jokes.htmcampaign is in a lot of trouble. Five staffers quit her campaign, claiming it was because she treated them like second-class citizens. However, Bachmann said, 'That's not true. At no time did I treat them like gays or Latinos.' –Conan O'Brien They have buried Moammar Gadhafihttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/worldleaders/a/Gaddafi-Jokes.htmat a secret undisclosed location. In other words, it's going to be the best season of 'The Amazing Race' yet. –Conan O'Brien Rick Perryhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Rick-Perry/a/Rick-Perry-Jokes.htm, started out like a ball of fire from Texas and then he started to drop and now he's retooling. He's adding advisers to his campaign team. This guy had advisers? Really? –David Lettermanhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-david-letterman-jokes.htm Rick Perry has now accused Mitt Romney of hiring illegal aliens to work on his hair. –David Letterman Moammar Gadhafi was found hiding in a storm sewer with a gold-plated gun. That's me in retirement, ladies and gentlemen. –David Letterman So the guy who shot Gadhafi was wearing a Yankees cap. Did you see that? If he'd had a Boston Red Sox hat on he probably would have missed. –David Letterman As you know, President Obamahttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obamajokes.htmis here in Los Angeles He's raising money for a huge disaster relief project. It's called NBC. –Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm It feels weird, because we're taping the show extra early tonight. It's rare that we change what time we tape the show to accommodate a guest's schedule. In fact, the only people we've ever done it for are the president and Lindsay Lohan. –Jay Leno A Libyan rebel has admitted to killing Moammar Gadhafi. He said he shot Gadhafi twice in the temple, to which Michele Bachmann said, 'I didn't even know the guy was Jewish.' –Jay Leno
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: The big bang is only theory. The scientists are still puzzled why their equations break down at the singularity point. Another professor opined that the Quantum Cosmology Theory eliminates the problems at the singularity point. So, there you have it. This is true. But it's the best theory around to describe the universe for now. If theory only exists, then how do we know if God or god created anything? The best theory, is still a theory. The definition of what God or god is, is still to be defined by what is actual. Presence, can have more influence of knowing what was, by what is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary world for the wave function to exist. This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. But God can create or destroy matter. I agree with this. Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has said in his career. IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that regard, he may be shrewd. He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? Yes, for the reasons given above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is associated with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary world for the wave function to exist. This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. But God can create or destroy matter. I agree with this. Then again, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs The Big Bang Theory states that there was no time, space and matter before the universe began. That means these were created at the singularity of the Big Bang. The phenomenon of black holes suggests that matter gets destroyed at the singularity within the black hole. We can only speculate as to what happens on the other side of the black hole. Some scientists say that a small baby universe may be created. But nobody can prove this idea to be a scientific fact at the present time. Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has said in his career. IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that regard, he may be shrewd. He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? Yes, for the reasons given above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is associated with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: You know the sad thing? It doesn't matter if the TM-Sidhi thing was when they went officially crazy (I too believe that was the major turning point). It doesn't matter if the research is bullshit. It' doesn't matter that Mahesh was never trained as a guru or shishya. It doesn't matter that he was making up it all along. What matters is that they've been able to keep up appearances. Their websites still look cool: esp. if you are wealthy or upper middle class person who gets lots of very nice catalogues. Their advertising looks on par with such high-end product lines, and thus geared to the Oprahs and the ladder climbers of this world. It speaks in their advert. language. And it doesn't matter if Mahesh was molesting his students: he maintained an impeccable stage persona, complete with make-up. etc. and that wonderful silk attire. And the most important part is that they have super-saturated the web with this air-brushed image and they've pushed themselves to the top of the search engines. If I search for anything remotely related to TM or TM org products - or just plain meditation - I'm very likely to have an advert. link to MUM.edu. They've played and paid the game of spiritual materialism better than anyone else. So that may be all it takes. People love their appearances. Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. And the more sense of self importance one has about one's spiritual practices, the greater the tendency to cling to them. An *association* has been created, linking the practices to the myth that YOU are one of the most important people on earth. YOUR woo woo is just so much more woo than other peoples'. They may meditate, but you perform the *Sidhis*, and that's just so much better, doncha know...more woo. Once you've bought into this -- being one of the most woo individuals on the planet -- it's tough to let go of it. Especially if this sense of self importance is reinforced twice a day by being in a group of people who believe that they are equally important, and equally woo. So the clinging to appearances doesn't surprise me; that's just human nature. The surprise, as you suggest, is that those doing the clinging have been so successful for so long *at* preserving the appearance of rationality, despite the reality of their daily lives. They still sell the myth of 20 minutes twice a day while living a reality of several hours twice a day, and only in a group of people as special as I am, never noticing that they're being hypocrites by doing so. I think it's the never noticing that makes the TMO PR engine so effective. The people who write it really believe it. They believe it so thoroughly that they don't even recognize that their own lives and lifestyles make what they're writing a lie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Actually your comments on them, including in this post, demonstrate that you haven't read nearly enough. ME: You actually wrote that with a straight face? I have read more than enough, we just disagree on the perspective. I just pointed out some of the things you were missing. It isn't only perspective. Perspective is gained by choosing what to pay attention to and what to ignore, how to weight different things. Then let's call it a *faulty* perspective created by poor choices that ensure you miss significant data. snip Moreover, many of his mean posts about me and others *are addressed to you*. If I say something negative to you about Barry, you usually defend him. If he says something negative to you about me, you almost always just ignore it. ME: Your score card might be right. I try to pick my battles here like everyone else. It wouldn't surprise me if I had bias. Thanks for admitting you have double standards. Oh snap! How wicked. I have different standards for each poster here. Which, in the case of defending Barry but not Judy, you acknowledge is bias. For example if I post to Ravi, I know I am going to get a rash of abuse that I would not tolerate unanswered from you for example. When I interact with him, I now what I am dealing with and accept the limits of the interaction. Different situation, not an example. Your attempt to frame my honest response as if it is the simple bad double standard is one of the limits that I accept when I interact with you. I know that many things I say will be twisted into something unflattering. Bias was your term, toots, not mine. I accept that and move on. But if say Steve tried that, I would give him a rash of shit back because I hold him to a higher standard of not pulling that crap with me. You mean, unlike the rash of shit you just gave me back? Just for one thing, if one were to read my posts that comment on Barry's, one would find that a significant number of them--I'd guess at least 50 percent--are not simply insults; quite a few are not insulting at all. Rather, they involve reasoned, noninflammatory analysis of points that Barry has made. ME: And often in demeaning language that is pretty much guarenteed to continue the ill will. And there's another example demonstrating that you haven't read enough to say. Heck, you didn't even read what *I* just said. Reasoned, noninflammatory analysis is the opposite of demeaning. ME: So you pick 50% as insulting. (Says Curtis, carefully ignoring my point about his mistake.) I am rejecting your attempt to characterize your responses that way. It is self serving claptrap. That rejection is a function of your having made poor choices about what to ignore, thereby missing significant data. And as prolific as you are here, and as Barry focused, that 50% number is mindnumbingly high. Barry routinely lies about the percentage of my posts that are about him. OK so give me the exact number I should subtract from mindnumbingly high to get to the right number. Depends on the week, of course. You'd have to do a search for each week for posts of mine containing Barry or turquoiseb, check to see how many included one of those words in what I had written *de novo* in that post, then calculate an average using the adjusted figures. When Barry does a search for a particular week, he omits the second step, so he includes posts containing quotes from other people or past posts of mine that mention him but nothing about him from me *de novo*, thus conveniently inflating the count. I already pointed this out in response to his most recent claim, but that was one of my posts you apparently chose to ignore, so you missed that data. Not to mention that some percentage of the posts that *are* commenting on something he said are of the reasoned analysis variety, not putdowns. Every time I've double-checked one of his claims about how many posts I've made that said something about him, the claim has been way off. But you appear to have missed the posts in which I pointed this out as well. His average calculation over 16 years in that recent post was up to 50 percent. That *would* be mind- numbingly high, but of course it doesn't happen very often, and up to is not an average in any case. Barry's posts having to do with me are *always* demeaning. ME: No need to argue with this, it sounds right. I'll take your word that this is how you feel about all of them. No, you're saying it wrong. They're
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: BTW, I think, if volume of verbiage count for anything, I deserve the award for the most ignored poster on FFL. Have you ever considered the possibility that there's a reason for this? Try writing about something that doesn't sound so much like an attempt to restart a soap opera that jumped the shark several seasons ago but that you're addicted to and don't want to see go off the air and I, for one, might respond. Perpetuating the same old same old, not inter- ested. No challenge in it. Suggested topics and koans: * Dexter and other lovable serial killers * The best beer to serve at a bris * If, as suggested in the recent film In Time, money is really replaced by time, how do you decide things? Flip a minute? * What is the sound of one obsessive being ignored? * Will they someday invent bottled True Attention for attention vampires so they can come out of the closet? * If volume of verbiage counted for anything in terms of how much attention you got here, would you write more, or less?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Or, bring a tent to meditate in if you can't meditate in the domes. 7:30am and 5pm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF Hey Buck-How often do you fall asleep 'during' meditation? Either at home OR at the domesjust curious.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:42:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: BTW, I think, if volume of verbiage count for anything, I deserve the award for the most ignored poster on FFL. Have you ever considered the possibility that there's a reason for this? Try writing about something that doesn't sound so much like an attempt to restart a soap opera that jumped the shark several seasons ago but that you're addicted to and don't want to see go off the air and I, for one, might respond. Perpetuating the same old same old, not inter- ested. No challenge in it. Suggested topics and koans: * Dexter and other lovable serial killers * The best beer to serve at a bris * If, as suggested in the recent film In Time, money is really replaced by time, how do you decide things? Flip a minute? * What is the sound of one obsessive being ignored? * Will they someday invent bottled True Attention for attention vampires so they can come out of the closet? * If volume of verbiage counted for anything in terms of how much attention you got here, would you write more, or less?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. You've got the timing wrong. I remember the first residence course I was on which had a governess, one of the first back from Switzerland. This was when the sidhis were a rocket ship for TM, which had already been described by Maharishi as the rocket ship to enlightenment. This lady acted like she didn't shit, let alone did it not stink. All, initiators, TMers, regarded her as though she was a body of light with flesh on top so we could see her. She never denied that she could fly, walk through walls, hear our very thoughts. She actually encouraged the awe about her. So did the other governors who came back.It appears Maharishi had really hyped the 6 month course participants up, not unlike the way initiators had previously been hyped up as being so very special in the scheme of manifest Creation. The Vedic Atom, including Michael Moore, came to our area next and they acted like they were God's gift. I got to see some tapes that were meant for initiators at a former ski chalet outside of Quebec which usually just ran ATRs. I guess they didn't have mere meditator tapes so we watched ATR tapes.Maharishi was hyping the initiators that they were God's gift and coaching them on how to act special so that all would pick up on their being special. I assume Maharishi pumped up the participants of the first 6 month courses to entice initiators to become governors and later TMers to take the arduous path of 8 weeks of preparatory courses in residence then 8 weeks of sidhi training in residence, a tough thing for a householder being not nickled and dimed by the local TM center, but pretty much fleeced of every penny they had. Indeed this one initiator couple pinned me down and told me that as initiators they were so much more deserving of taking CIC than I was, so I just had to go to the bank with them to get a check for the $6,000 course fee. Ballsy, eh? I now know that the experiences we TMers were fed were bogus, made up to get us to spring for the sidhis. Once again, before the woo-woo save the world thing started.
[FairfieldLife] something original---for Barry (was: Everyone here in my FFL mind)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xR_rQvHoEE A Place Called Envy Once upon a time, there was a place called ENVY; it had no land, no sunshine and certainty no sense of humor; there was no empathy, no touching and definitely no humans; (hu) man implied good and of course there was no goodness---although (un) good was never in short supply. Envy did have voices, and the voices could be anyone they wanted to be; there was also magic, butbecause there was no empathy, the magic was black, like a night sky---whose stars promised illumination, which never appeared. A boy named BUTCHIE lived in Envy, he had moved there to hide from a northern LOON who showed up one day, unannounced, and asked the question: I'm here, where are you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ENNzjy8QjUfeature=related Other voices, where Butchie had previously lived, were so charmed by the Loon, and his question, that they began to neglect Butchie, who was used to being popular, and slowly his allure began fade---like those stars behind a cloudy sky. When Butchie was not being a boy, or writing TV reviews or manuals, he was a part-time travel agent, which made him even more envious of the Loon; the Loon had traveled to miraculous places and his writing brought the miracles to life; Butchie, on the other hand, could speak with great authority---about places, but knew nothing of miracles. Butchie stated: the miraculous is hokum, and therefore, pushing buttons is the WAY---to a life well lived. The down side of this approach was that the wisdom in Butchie's voice sounded significantly younger than a person in their seventh decade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QORC1B7HO4 One day Butchie, and one of his friends---not the drag queen, the other one---Oboe; who loved to do impressions of the love child of a bedbug and a pilot fish, decided to make fun of the Loon and his beautiful question---they hoped to convince him life would be easier back on the lake. They thought and thought and planned and planned, but couldn't come up with anything offensive enough that might convince the Loon to head back to Ontario. Then Butchie came up with what he thought was a brilliant idea; why not question the Loons sexual orientation; granted, on odd choice, for someone over 10--- in the year of our lord, 2011, but this was someone, who had gone on record, stating he preferred women who kept their mouths shut and laugh at all his jokes; one assumes---even the dumb one's, about sexual orientation. What made the choice even more odd was that the Loon, also in his seventh decade, didn't seem too concerned with the sexual orientation of his fellow voices. Of course, being an eight year old, and not known for thinking out of the box, Butchie thought since it would bother him, if someone questioned his sexual orientation; so it followed---in Butchie's mind, it would bother the Loon. So Butchie and his friend waited; and waited; and waited; and waited; and for a while---out of sheer boredom, they thought of making fun of each other just to pass the time. But then, to Oboe's relief, the Loon called out: I'm here; where are you? The sound was so full of ardor, that Butchie---who believed all passion was lasciviousness, thought: I got him. So the voice of Butchie questioned the Loon's sexual orientation; and waited; and waited; and waited; and waited some more, but all that was heard was silence. Then the Loon spoke up, asking his question again; and, in a deafening blast, the rest of the voices, in unison, answered the question: We're over here. This result surprised Butchie, he thought the other voices had the same concerns he did---about same sex marriage, and when he inquired to some of his friends they sent him the following links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIKiB663JD0feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry-MPAkLRrI From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:42:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: BTW, I think, if volume of verbiage count for anything, I deserve the award for the most ignored poster on FFL. Have you ever considered the possibility that there's a reason for this? Try writing about something that doesn't sound so much like an attempt to restart a soap opera that jumped the shark several seasons ago but that you're addicted to and don't want to see go off the air and I, for one, might respond. Perpetuating the same old same old, not inter- ested. No challenge in it. Suggested topics and koans: * Dexter and other lovable serial killers * The best beer to serve at a bris * If, as suggested in the recent film In Time, money is really replaced by time, how do you decide things? Flip a minute? * What is the sound of one obsessive
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. You've got the timing wrong. I remember the first residence course I was on which had a governess, one of the first back from Switzerland. This was when the sidhis were a rocket ship for TM, which had already been described by Maharishi as the rocket ship to enlightenment. snip The Siddhis program IS a Rocket ship to enlightenment, without it, it could take a million years, with it, a mere 7 lifetimes or so, come on! ;-) (The devil is in the details).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
The two FFL spiritual virgins posting to each other! Like two boys in puberty pretending to be men. Cute! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: You know the sad thing? It doesn't matter if the TM-Sidhi thing was when they went officially crazy (I too believe that was the major turning point). It doesn't matter if the research is bullshit. It' doesn't matter that Mahesh was never trained as a guru or shishya. It doesn't matter that he was making up it all along. What matters is that they've been able to keep up appearances. Their websites still look cool: esp. if you are wealthy or upper middle class person who gets lots of very nice catalogues. Their advertising looks on par with such high-end product lines, and thus geared to the Oprahs and the ladder climbers of this world. It speaks in their advert. language. And it doesn't matter if Mahesh was molesting his students: he maintained an impeccable stage persona, complete with make-up. etc. and that wonderful silk attire. And the most important part is that they have super-saturated the web with this air-brushed image and they've pushed themselves to the top of the search engines. If I search for anything remotely related to TM or TM org products - or just plain meditation - I'm very likely to have an advert. link to MUM.edu. They've played and paid the game of spiritual materialism better than anyone else. So that may be all it takes. People love their appearances. Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. And the more sense of self importance one has about one's spiritual practices, the greater the tendency to cling to them. An *association* has been created, linking the practices to the myth that YOU are one of the most important people on earth. YOUR woo woo is just so much more woo than other peoples'. They may meditate, but you perform the *Sidhis*, and that's just so much better, doncha know...more woo. Once you've bought into this -- being one of the most woo individuals on the planet -- it's tough to let go of it. Especially if this sense of self importance is reinforced twice a day by being in a group of people who believe that they are equally important, and equally woo. So the clinging to appearances doesn't surprise me; that's just human nature. The surprise, as you suggest, is that those doing the clinging have been so successful for so long *at* preserving the appearance of rationality, despite the reality of their daily lives. They still sell the myth of 20 minutes twice a day while living a reality of several hours twice a day, and only in a group of people as special as I am, never noticing that they're being hypocrites by doing so. I think it's the never noticing that makes the TMO PR engine so effective. The people who write it really believe it. They believe it so thoroughly that they don't even recognize that their own lives and lifestyles make what they're writing a lie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. No, but that's possibly because I don't recognize one of the names in your question. I and most lovers of literature recognize the name Kerouac, but who is this Truman guy you speak of? Wasn't he that guy who lived inside a big bubble that he thought was the whole universe?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
Manhattan will do that to ya, assumed you knew that. Do I have it right you feel superior to the guy that wrote half of: 'To Kill a Mockingbird (why do you think she only wrote one book) and all of In Cold Blood, and had two movies made about him---at the same time? Just a heads up; you might be showing just a bit too much leg on the homophobia front. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 11:25:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. No, but that's possibly because I don't recognize one of the names in your question. I and most lovers of literature recognize the name Kerouac, but who is this Truman guy you speak of? Wasn't he that guy who lived inside a big bubble that he thought was the whole universe?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Everyone here in my FFL mind
On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:25 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. No, but that's possibly because I don't recognize one of the names in your question. I and most lovers of literature recognize the name Kerouac, but who is this Truman guy you speak of? Wasn't he that guy who lived inside a big bubble that he thought was the whole universe? Actually Barry the one thing of Capote's I think you might like a lot is his posthumous novel, Answered Prayers. The main chapter is all about polite people~~the crème de la crème of NY society~~all saying really shitty things about each other, with gusto :) (They claimed they didn't know he was going to include them, thinly disguised~~he claimed they should have since he was a writer.) That chapter was published in the New Yorker, and Capote immediately found himself shunned, possibly hastening his death. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Daughter of Ravi Shankar
Wow. Thanks for posting this. From: oye34vay msilver1...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Daughter of Ravi Shankar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CnhcGpmH9Yfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF Hey Buck-How often do you fall asleep 'during' meditation? Either at home OR at the domesjust curious. Wm, not at all. I take my meditation seriously and sit up and do it. I love it. I wouldn't want to miss any of it. Meditation is something you do. Some of these lazy ill-disciplined people that go in just laying down ought to be slapped. You know, I once heard the great saint Maharishi Mahesh Yogi say directly that we've slept enough and if you're having troubles sleeping in meditation to take some stimulants like coffee or tea. That is the better attitude towards sleeping your meditations away. Sit the heck up. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
If theory only exists, then how do we know if God or god created anything? The best theory, is still a theory. The definition of what God or god is, is still to be defined by what is actual. Presence, can have more influence of knowing what was, by what is. To answer the existence of God, one can use an ontological argument, like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, to determine the logical answer. Also, one can derive the existence of a Creator by understanding the significance of natural laws. These laws are consistent everywhere in the universe. As such, there must be an Observer which makes these laws function the way they do. Otherwise, there would be no order, life forms or human beings in the universe. For that matter, there would be no space, time and matter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI6D84ExvU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: If theory only exists, then how do we know if God or god created anything? The best theory, is still a theory. The definition of what God or god is, is still to be defined by what is actual. Presence, can have more influence of knowing what was, by what is. To answer the existence of God, one can use an ontological argument, like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, to determine the logical answer. Also, one can derive the existence of a Creator by understanding the significance of natural laws. These laws are consistent everywhere in the universe. As such, there must be an Observer which makes these laws function the way they do. Otherwise, there would be no order, life forms or human beings in the universe. For that matter, there would be no space, time and matter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:25 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. No, but that's possibly because I don't recognize one of the names in your question. I and most lovers of literature recognize the name Kerouac, but who is this Truman guy you speak of? Wasn't he that guy who lived inside a big bubble that he thought was the whole universe? Actually Barry the one thing of Capote's I think you might like a lot is his posthumous novel, Answered Prayers. The main chapter is all about polite people~~the crème de la crème of NY society~~all saying really shitty things about each other, with gusto :) (They claimed they didn't know he was going to include them, thinly disguised~~ he claimed they should have since he was a writer.) That chapter was published in the New Yorker, and Capote immediately found himself shunned, possibly hastening his death. I admit to never having read anything by him, other than enough of a quick skim or two in a bookstore to enable me to realize that I find both his style and his choice of subject matter pedestrian. As for the article/book you mention, it doesn't sound like my cuppa tea. I have high standards, since when it comes to witty social barbs, my god is Oscar Wilde. He understood the distinction between being a queen and being a drama queen.
Re: [FairfieldLife] fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
Rum, brandy, and beer were included in troop rations for the American Revolution (1775-1783). By the time of the Civil War (1861-1865), these alcoholic libations in rations were replaced by coffee. ~Today's Seattle Times From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B shocking description :little beer-drowned consciousness of B by nablusoss1008#292730 and related to #293725 what remains to be quoted (in thus context)?- :Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer A drug is neither moral nor immoral -- it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole. Zappa, Frank V. Frank Vincent Zappa' theory about beer: Consumption of it leads to pseudo-military behaviour. Think about it -- winos don't march. Whiskey guys don't march, either (sometimes they write poetry, which is often more horrible, though). Beer drinkers are into things that are sort of like marching -- like football. Maybe there's a chemical in beer that stimulates the [male] brain to do violence while moving in the same direction as other guys who smell like them [marching] -- We, as a group of MEN, will drink this refreshing liquid, after which we will get together and beat the snot out of that guy over there. Beer seems to produce behavioural results which are psycho-chemically different from those produced by other alcoholic beverages. Alcohol (the part that 'gets you drunk') is only one ingredient. There are other things in beer, and those [herbal and/or biological] components could affect the [male] brain, creating this violent tendency. Go ahead and laugh. One day you're going to read about some scientist discovering that hops, in conjunction with certain strains of 'yeast creatures,' has a mysterious effect on some newly discovered region of the brain, making people want to kill -- but only in groups. (With whiskey, you might want to murder your girlfriend -- but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching. It's a buddy beverage -- for buddy activities.) Max Weber, defined statehood as “the monopoly of the legitimate use of violence”. My favourite by FVZ: Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best. another favourite quote remains You can't be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline -- it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER. - FZ PS.: BTW His kind of fixation on the Bword F.V.Z. hilariousness in his scientificdescription **of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate: There's no question in my mind -- the beer, the balloons and the bunting all start with B for some Cosmic Reason. Bullshit also starts with a B. If you took Beer, Balloons and Bunting, then stirred in the Bullshit, you'd wind up with a scientific description of how the Republican Party works its Special Magic on the American electorate. Oh -- let's add Bourbon, Blow Jobs and the Bohemian Grove. **(beside Titties Beer because of the relative crudeness of the song is still another kind of beer, Zappa’s concerts were made up, more and more, of adolescent and college-age men who wanted to hear songs with dirty words in them. And in many ways, “Titties and Beer” seems to be a very sly comment on this sort of attitude.IMHO ) hope the (turquoise)B are still in vino's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Late night political jokes
There should be more jokes soon about Caine's changing stories relating to the sexual harassment allegations against him. This news story could make or break his candidacy, depending on how he handles it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: In a new interview, Rick Perry said it was a mistake for him to participate in the presidential debates. Perry said 'I'm not one of these 'word talkers.''' Conan O'Brienhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-conan-jokes.htm Michele Bachmann said she wants her three daughters to learn to shoot a gun. Mostly so they can put her campaign out of its misery. Conan O'Brien* * Rick Perry is now behind in the polls and he's not taking it well. Today he executed his pollster. David Lettermanhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-david-letterman-jokes.htm Hillary Clinton turns 64 years old today. Happy birthday. Today, Donald Trump demanded to see her birth certificate. David Letterman * *A couple of days ago they found (Moammar Gadhafi) hiding in a storm sewer, and they pulled him out and killed him. In three years, he would have been eligible for his pension! Yep and he left his entire wardrobe to Lady Gaga. David Letterman * * In an interview last night, Rick Perry criticized Mitt Romney for flip-flopping on the issues. Romney said that Perry has no idea what he's talking about. Then he added, 'But he does know what he's talking about.' Jimmy Fallon http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jimmy-fallon-jokes.htm * *Michele Bachmann told reporters that she will lead the nation in prayer if she is elected president. You know if she is elected president, we all better be praying. She doesn't have to lead us. Jay Leno* *We had President Obama on the show last night. I think the president enjoys visiting NBC because we're the only place that has lower numbers than he does. Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm According to polls, Rick Perry has now fallen to fifth place. You know who is in fourth place? Carrot Top. Jay Leno The McRib is back. You know, I wondered what they were going to do with Gadhafi's body. Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm David Letterman's Top Ten Things Overheard At Moammar Gadhafi's Funeral * * 10. 'Honestly, how the heck did he spell his name?' 9. 'It's a shame he didn't live long enough to promote himself above colonel' 8. 'Is it too soon to hit on the Ukrainian nurse?' 7. 'After the services, come back to the house for cake' 6. 'Where's his hot daughter Kim?' 5. 'And now, a few words from Moammar's closest friend, Loni Anderson' 4. 'At least he died doing what he loved best begging for mercy in a storm drain' 3. 'Incoming!' 2. 'Nice of Leno to send flowers' 1. 'Let's bury this guy' Herman Cainhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/politicalcartoons/ig/Political-Cartoons/Plan-999-Outer-Space.htmand Newt Gingrichhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/Newt-Gingrich-Jokes.htmsaid that next month they're going to take part in a Lincoln-Douglas style debate. The only similarity to the actual Lincoln-Douglas debates is that no one will watch them on television. Conan O'Brienhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-conan-jokes.htm Michele Bachmann'shttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/Michele-Bachmann-Jokes.htmcampaign is in a lot of trouble. Five staffers quit her campaign, claiming it was because she treated them like second-class citizens. However, Bachmann said, 'That's not true. At no time did I treat them like gays or Latinos.' Conan O'Brien They have buried Moammar Gadhafihttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/worldleaders/a/Gaddafi-Jokes.htmat a secret undisclosed location. In other words, it's going to be the best season of 'The Amazing Race' yet. Conan O'Brien Rick Perryhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Rick-Perry/a/Rick-Perry-Jokes.htm, started out like a ball of fire from Texas and then he started to drop and now he's retooling. He's adding advisers to his campaign team. This guy had advisers? Really? David Lettermanhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-david-letterman-jokes.htm Rick Perry has now accused Mitt Romney of hiring illegal aliens to work on his hair. David Letterman Moammar Gadhafi was found hiding in a storm sewer with a gold-plated gun. That's me in retirement, ladies and gentlemen. David Letterman So the guy who shot Gadhafi was wearing a Yankees cap. Did you see that? If he'd had a Boston Red Sox hat on he probably would have missed. David Letterman As you know, President Obamahttp://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obamajokes.htmis here in Los Angeles He's raising money for a huge disaster relief project. It's called NBC. Jay Lenohttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-jay-leno-jokes.htm It feels weird, because we're taping the show
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: fixation on the Bword:little beer-drowned consciousness of B
Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman LOL..Dear Obba.. A good one.. On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:47 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ravi would do a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQvBbzslJE and then praise good karma to be stuck on a train in the snow with a woman
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
A refutation of the Ontological argument (first articulated by St. Anselm 10-33-1109) will be offered through Dr. Rebecca Newberger Goldstein later today or tomorrow. ... A refutation of the need for an Outside Observer will be presented through the help of New Scientist, 29 Oct 2011: Begone, quantum voyeur... in a nutshell stating The idea allows the wave function to collapse without needing to involve an observer. Article by editor David Shiga based on the work of physicist Daniel Bedingham. ... Bedingham's theories have gained support from some other physicists: It would be the first modification to quantum mechanics since its conception in the 1920's. ... ... http://www.krislewisart.com/images/annunciation.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: If theory only exists, then how do we know if God or god created anything? The best theory, is still a theory. The definition of what God or god is, is still to be defined by what is actual. Presence, can have more influence of knowing what was, by what is. To answer the existence of God, one can use an ontological argument, like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, to determine the logical answer. Also, one can derive the existence of a Creator by understanding the significance of natural laws. These laws are consistent everywhere in the universe. As such, there must be an Observer which makes these laws function the way they do. Otherwise, there would be no order, life forms or human beings in the universe. For that matter, there would be no space, time and matter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: You know the sad thing? It doesn't matter if the TM-Sidhi thing was when they went officially crazy (I too believe that was the major turning point). It doesn't matter if the research is bullshit. It' doesn't matter that Mahesh was never trained as a guru or shishya. It doesn't matter that he was making up it all along. What matters is that they've been able to keep up appearances. Their websites still look cool: esp. if you are wealthy or upper middle class person who gets lots of very nice catalogues. Their advertising looks on par with such high-end product lines, and thus geared to the Oprahs and the ladder climbers of this world. It speaks in their advert. language. And it doesn't matter if Mahesh was molesting his students: he maintained an impeccable stage persona, complete with make-up. etc. and that wonderful silk attire. And the most important part is that they have super-saturated the web with this air-brushed image and they've pushed themselves to the top of the search engines. If I search for anything remotely related to TM or TM org products - or just plain meditation - I'm very likely to have an advert. link to MUM.edu. They've played and paid the game of spiritual materialism better than anyone else. So that may be all it takes. People love their appearances. Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. Barry, I really think that you undermine your point by exaggerating the positions of TB's. At least, I hope you are exaggerating it and that I am not wrong! I don't think most people going to the Domes really think that they are all that important on the planet. They may look down on other people and other meditation types, and probably belive that they are increasing sattva for the area and the world - so they do think they are on to something amazing. But, I still suspect that nearly everyone in the Domes is there mostly for working on their own Enlgihtenment, period. They want to get to CC or GC or just want to be good in the TMO eyes. World Peace is a side benefit, but not the only reason they are there. No, instead they want spiritual experiences, or a nap, or to be with other TB's. Self-importance is not the main issue, imo. Also, MMY was talking about World Peace as a result of doing TM from about 1970, right? Way before the siddhis. He tied doing TM twice a day to release of stress, better behavior, imporved health and world peace - kind of covering all the bases for reasons to spend time doing this. And we are all important to our selves, are we not? Very important, in fact. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe you mean that TB's get to be rigid and judgmental with an inflated sense of being at the Center of the best technique for evolution, which I think is different than self-important. And the more sense of self importance one has about one's spiritual practices, the greater the tendency to cling to them. An *association* has been created, linking the practices to the myth that YOU are one of the most important people on earth. YOUR woo woo is just so much more woo than other peoples'. They may meditate, but you perform the *Sidhis*, and that's just so much better, doncha know...more woo. Once you've bought into this -- being one of the most woo individuals on the planet -- it's tough to let go of it. Especially if this sense of self importance is reinforced twice a day by being in a group of people who believe that they are equally important, and equally woo. So the clinging to appearances doesn't surprise me; that's just human nature. The surprise, as you suggest, is that those doing the clinging have been so successful for so long *at* preserving the appearance of rationality, despite the reality of their daily lives. They still sell the myth of 20 minutes twice a day while living a reality of several hours twice a day, and only in a group of people as special as I am,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:25 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Barry, In reference to your reviews, have ever considered what Truman Capote meant when he described Kerouac's writing: That isn't writing at all, it's typing. No, but that's possibly because I don't recognize one of the names in your question. I and most lovers of literature recognize the name Kerouac, but who is this Truman guy you speak of? Wasn't he that guy who lived inside a big bubble that he thought was the whole universe? Actually Barry the one thing of Capote's I think you might like a lot is his posthumous novel, Answered Prayers. The main chapter is all about polite people~~the crème de la crème of NY society~~all saying really shitty things about each other, with gusto :) (They claimed they didn't know he was going to include them, thinly disguised~~ he claimed they should have since he was a writer.) That chapter was published in the New Yorker, and Capote immediately found himself shunned, possibly hastening his death. I admit to never having read anything by him, other than enough of a quick skim or two in a bookstore to enable me to realize that I find both his style and his choice of subject matter pedestrian. As for the article/book you mention, it doesn't sound like my cuppa tea. I have high standards, since when it comes to witty social barbs, my god is Oscar Wilde. He understood the distinction between being a queen and being a drama queen. Ah, Oscar Wilde. Has anyone come close to his level? If so, let me know, I will read him/her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Everyone here in my FFL mind
On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:03 PM, turquoiseb wrote: I admit to never having read anything by him, other than enough of a quick skim or two in a bookstore to enable me to realize that I find both his style and his choice of subject matter pedestrian. As for the article/book you mention, it doesn't sound like my cuppa tea. I have high standards, I don't. :) I loved it. since when it comes to witty social barbs, my god is Oscar Wilde. He understood the distinction between being a queen and being a drama queen. Nothing terribly witty in Capote's book, IIRC. It was really pure payback. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Starbucks goes OWS?
This morning at the local Starbucks I found fliers for Create Jobs for USA. Guess that Howard Schultz figures if people don't have jobs the first thing they cut is that morning latte at Starbucks. http://www.createjobsforusa.org/ Now how 'bout other corporations? Will Comcast wake up to the fact that if people don't have jobs one of the first things they cut is cable?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Everyone here in my FFL mind
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: snip For example after I have stated my position with Judy I will drop the thread knowing that more discussion will not lead to more understanding. Interesting. In my observation, you drop threads with me when you've been reduced to making points and claims so weak you know you're not going to be able to defend them from challenge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Susan wrote: But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. Barry, I really think that you undermine your point by exaggerating the positions of TB's. At least, I hope you are exaggerating it and that I am not wrong! I don't think most people going to the Domes really think that they are all that important on the planet. They may look down on other people and other meditation types, and probably belive that they are increasing sattva for the area and the world - so they do think they are on to something amazing. But, I still suspect that nearly everyone in the Domes is there mostly for working on their own Enlgihtenment, period. They want to get to CC or GC or just want to be good in the TMO eyes. World Peace is a side benefit, but not the only reason they are there. No, instead they want spiritual experiences, or a nap, or to be with other TB's. Self-importance is not the main issue, imo. That may be, Susan. But if so, things have changed… since bouncing on your rear end for whirled peas has been presented, for quite a while now, as the main reason to come to the Dooms, keep up the numbers, etc. What you get out of it personally is not important and hasn't been for quite some time. Even personal comfort, health or the care of your children takes a back seat to this nonsense. Has that changed? How refreshing if it were so. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote: e, Hey Buck-How often do you fall asleep 'during' meditation? Either at home OR at the domesjust curious. Wm, not at all. I take my meditation seriously and sit up and do it. I love it. I wouldn't want to miss any of it. Meditation is something you do. Some of these lazy ill-disciplined people that go in just laying down ought to be slapped. You know, I once heard the great saint Maharishi Mahesh Yogi say directly that we've slept enough and if you're having troubles sleeping in meditation to take some stimulants like coffee or tea. That is the better attitude towards sleeping your meditations away. Sit the heck up. -Buck Perhaps you misunderstood the question; I wasn't suggesting people were lying down to sleep, I merely ask how often do you fall asleep 'during' meditation (while sitting). That is not necessarily a negative, and in fact usually the rest is far deeper than regular sleep. MMY once said under such circumstances to be sure the head is supported and does not fall on the chest as this could cause serious neck problems. The idea of using a stimulant such as tea or coffee would not be a good idea IMO, I doubt (or would be very surprised) MMY would ever suggest doing that *in order to stay awake during meditation*, (didn't say it didn't happen though), thanks for your response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Susan wrote: But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. Barry, I really think that you undermine your point by exaggerating the positions of TB's. At least, I hope you are exaggerating it and that I am not wrong! I don't think most people going to the Domes really think that they are all that important on the planet. They may look down on other people and other meditation types, and probably belive that they are increasing sattva for the area and the world - so they do think they are on to something amazing. But, I still suspect that nearly everyone in the Domes is there mostly for working on their own Enlgihtenment, period. They want to get to CC or GC or just want to be good in the TMO eyes. World Peace is a side benefit, but not the only reason they are there. No, instead they want spiritual experiences, or a nap, or to be with other TB's. Self-importance is not the main issue, imo. That may be, Susan. But if so, things have changed since bouncing on your rear end for whirled peas has been presented, for quite a while now, as the main reason to come to the Dooms, keep up the numbers, etc. What you get out of it personally is not important and hasn't been for quite some time. Even personal comfort, health or the care of your children takes a back seat to this nonsense. Well, if care of your kids and health take a back seat, then I can only say the parents are nuts. I do recall back in the late 70's knowing of a couple with a young baby. They had returned a year earlier from a 6 month course and believed that doing their full siddhis program was more important than anything in the world - holding a job, eating with family, etc. So, twice a day they put the baby in a crib in a room, closed the door and went to another part of the house to do program for 2 hours!! I hit the roof when I heard that. I always assumed that they had taken it all too literally. Who would treat their own newborn that way? In fact, I don't really know what type of people now head to the Domes each day out in FFld. After all these years, if people still have such little common sense, then I have grossly overestimated the mental health of the remaining TB's. I thought this type of thinking was long gone. Has that changed? How refreshing if it were so. Sal
[FairfieldLife] UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAofeature=player_embedded#!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Susan wrote: But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. Barry, I really think that you undermine your point by exaggerating the positions of TB's. At least, I hope you are exaggerating it and that I am not wrong! I don't think most people going to the Domes really think that they are all that important on the planet. They may look down on other people and other meditation types, and probably belive that they are increasing sattva for the area and the world - so they do think they are on to something amazing. But, I still suspect that nearly everyone in the Domes is there mostly for working on their own Enlgihtenment, period. They want to get to CC or GC or just want to be good in the TMO eyes. World Peace is a side benefit, but not the only reason they are there. No, instead they want spiritual experiences, or a nap, or to be with other TB's. Self-importance is not the main issue, imo. That may be, Susan. But if so, things have changed since bouncing on your rear end for whirled peas has been presented, for quite a while now, as the main reason to come to the Dooms, keep up the numbers, etc. What you get out of it personally is not important and hasn't been for quite some time. Even personal comfort, health or the care of your children takes a back seat to this nonsense. Has that changed? How refreshing if it were so. Sal imo what Susan is saying is that the majority aren't zombies for world peace, that even though they neglect their lives sometimes to participate in the Domes, it isn't about world peace, though I remember that topic from my Intro lecture in 1975. The dome goers think its the best thing to do for their evolution. You don't think so personally. Me neither, though I am probably clueless about some things that they know way more about than I do - It all evens out. Why castigate them? Who knows what is best for others? As a coincidence, the crime rate in the US has been plummeting and no one can figure out why. I am not saying it is the domes, but it does coincidentally track to what Mr. Tee-Em said about growing social peace. My take on it is I'm glad to have the reduction in crime and if it due to those folks in the Dome, that is great! And if it isn't, that's great too, as long as it keeps going down.
[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAofeature=player_embedded#! Pls forget the hysterical voices and the obviously fake interview with someone from area51. Just enjoy the footage
[FairfieldLife] Alcoholism and God
With millions of members AA has shown a simple spiritual program of action, when applied, can relieve the obsession and compulsion to drink. The program of the 12 steps has been adopted by many other organisations such as Overeaters Anonymous, NA, Gamblers Anonymous, Sex Addicts Anonymous, Cocaine Anonymous...the list is endless. The basic concept of the 12 steps is to first admit defeat and accept a personal inability to change on your own power. A inventory of resentments, fears and harms caused gives the basis for a list of amends to be made, prayer and meditation are encouraged and most importantly the need to get out of self and help others. To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution. Helping others is without doubt the road to freedom from self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alcoholism and God
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:58 PM, russell sedman wrote: To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution. I agree, russell. Did somebody here tell you that? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Blues
Dear curtis, I know what blues is. But hearing what you manage to shriek about MMM, the latest him being worse than Mao, your music simply SOUNDS like Hillbillymusic, in my ears. http://tinyurl.com/67kzho3 http://tinyurl.com/5s59bod
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alcoholism and God
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, russell sedman russellca12@... wrote: With millions of members AA has shown a simple spiritual program of action, when applied, can relieve the obsession and compulsion to drink. The program of the 12 steps has been adopted by many other organisations such as Overeaters Anonymous, NA, Gamblers Anonymous, Sex Addicts Anonymous, Cocaine Anonymous...the list is endless. The basic concept of the 12 steps is to first admit defeat and accept a personal inability to change on your own power. A inventory of resentments, fears and harms caused gives the basis for a list of amends to be made, prayer and meditation are encouraged and most importantly the need to get out of self and help others. To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution. Helping others is without doubt the road to freedom from self. AA is indeed a spiritual programme which is directly inspired by the Master Jesus according to Mr. Benjamin Creme.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alcoholism and God
I agree, terrible idea. I tried it - didn't work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:58 PM, russell sedman wrote: To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution. I agree, russell. Did somebody here tell you that? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alcoholism and God
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I agree, terrible idea. I tried it - didn't work. HeHe :-) It's interesting to note that somewhere in the 12 steps, meditation is very much empathized but somewhere along the passing of time this thingy of helping others have gained more weight in the AA programme and it seems it is now their full focus. This is not a critisism of AA, just an observation. On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:58 PM, russell sedman wrote: To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alcoholism and God
re: the co-founder of AA: William G. Wilson. Found LSD and niacin to be of value; claimed a discarnate Spirit named Boniface helped him craft the 12 Steps program. ... From Wiki: For Wilson, spiritualism was a life-long interest. One of his letters to adviser Father Dowling suggests that while Wilson was working on his book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, he felt that spirits were helping him, in particular a 15th century monk named Boniface.[34] Despite his conviction that he had evidence for the reality of the spirit world, Wilson chose not to share this with AA. However his practices still created controversy within the AA membership. Wilson and his wife continued with their unusual practices in spite of the misgivings of many AA members. In their house they had a spook room where they would invite guests to participate in seances using a Ouija board.[35][36] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I agree, terrible idea. I tried it - didn't work. HeHe :-) It's interesting to note that somewhere in the 12 steps, meditation is very much empathized but somewhere along the passing of time this thingy of helping others have gained more weight in the AA programme and it seems it is now their full focus. This is not a critisism of AA, just an observation. On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:58 PM, russell sedman wrote: To be told that meditation alone can solve personal problems is, in my experience, not a workable solution.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
Tom Pall wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Thanks for your reply, Vaj. I cannot disagree with your assessment. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how people can cling to beliefs and work tirelessly to preserve the appearance that they are true, long after other more reasonable people would have realized that they were not. But for me the tipping point into this world of clinging to appearances was not the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program itself but the rebranding of it in terms of self importance. That, essentially, is what the shift from You perform the Sidhis as a way to realize your own enlightenment to You perform the Sidhis as a kind of sacred duty, because by doing so you become One Of The Most Important People On Earth, one of the select few, the holy thud of whose butt-bounces can bring about world peace and an Age Of Enlightenment was. It was a radical shift into the world of self importance and the amplification of individual ego. You've got the timing wrong. I remember the first residence course I was on which had a governess, one of the first back from Switzerland. This was when the sidhis were a rocket ship for TM, which had already been described by Maharishi as the rocket ship to enlightenment. This lady acted like she didn't shit, let alone did it not stink. All, initiators, TMers, regarded her as though she was a body of light with flesh on top so we could see her. She never denied that she could fly, walk through walls, hear our very thoughts. She actually encouraged the awe about her. So did the other governors who came back.It appears Maharishi had really hyped the 6 month course participants up, not unlike the way initiators had previously been hyped up as being so very special in the scheme of manifest Creation. The Vedic Atom, including Michael Moore, came to our area next and they acted like they were God's gift. I got to see some tapes that were meant for initiators at a former ski chalet outside of Quebec which usually just ran ATRs. I guess they didn't have mere meditator tapes so we watched ATR tapes.Maharishi was hyping the initiators that they were God's gift and coaching them on how to act special so that all would pick up on their being special. I assume Maharishi pumped up the participants of the first 6 month courses to entice initiators to become governors and later TMers to take the arduous path of 8 weeks of preparatory courses in residence then 8 weeks of sidhi training in residence, a tough thing for a householder being not nickled and dimed by the local TM center, but pretty much fleeced of every penny they had. Indeed this one initiator couple pinned me down and told me that as initiators they were so much more deserving of taking CIC than I was, so I just had to go to the bank with them to get a check for the $6,000 course fee. Ballsy, eh? I now know that the experiences we TMers were fed were bogus, made up to get us to spring for the sidhis. Once again, before the woo-woo save the world thing started. I thank God A'mighty that I was spared the special teacher tripe on my TTC. It was just the quite reasonable, You came here to become teachers. So, what's keeping you? Go home and teach already. In everything Maharishi said there was the notion of specialness; we were special, the food was special, the toilet was special. If we had been infested w/ bedbugs, they no doubt would have been special as well. For myself I'm down w/ being as special as a bedbug. Unlike in other endeavors, in teaching TM the less one brings to the table the better. And bedbug status is just about the right level for effective teaching. But I did have similar experience w/ the ballsy types. Freshly minted governors rode into town, informing us mere initiators that they had been sent by Maharishi hisself to acquire magnificent architectural wonders that might serve as local Capitals for the Age of Whatever. When I pointed out to these jamokes that they had neither a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of they were not dismayed in the least. Around purity, I was schooled, the means would collect themselves. Alas and alack, the real estate agents representing multi-million dollar houses, and clearly not living the fullness of life, didn't quite see it that way. They wanted earnest money from two guys who would account themselves lucky to have a change of clothes. Real estate, one. Ritam, zip. Our heroes conveniently divined from the home of all knowledge that they should haul ass and find a more deserving locale for a Capital. For all I know they're still searching. Perhaps they found honest work. P Duff
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The sense of near-desperation with which some on this forum are hoping that Oprah is the new Merv and that TM is finally on the upswing again left me thinking about its past, and trying to pinpoint where it all went wrong. Maybe I've read the posts too quickly, but the only note of desperation I recall reading on this, was you, venting in many paragraphs, about how Oprah's underlings did not properly vet her about all the stories on the web which paint an unfavorable view of the TMO, and thereby allowed her to lend credibility to this organization by participating in a group meditation. Would you care to point out who is demonstrating the other behavior you describe above? Many have speculated on this forum about what that phase transition moment was, the point at which it all began to unravel and go downhill. For many (including luminaries like Charlie Lutes and Jerry Jarvis), that point was the introduction of the TM-Sidhi program. Me, I have a different theory, and I'm going to rap about it in a little mini-essay today. Be warned...this may be a little long (although not the length of Robin's epics), and it may piss a few people off. But it's what I honestly believe. I cannot pinpoint the exact day or month or year in which TMers went officially bat shit crazy (some TM historian type here may be able to do that for us), because I'd already left before it happened. But I can pinpoint its nature, and what was said -- and believed -- that caused everything after that point to be a loony bin. It's the day that Maharishi first tried to convince people that bouncing on their butts on slabs of foam in a big room full of other butt-bouncers could end crime, change the weather, and bring about world peace. This pronouncement almost certainly predated the term Maharishi Effect, which was invented later to glorify his pronouncement, and scientific data made up to make it seem true. But from my point of view the fact that ANYONE believed this spiel for even an instant signifies the phase transition point from relative sanity to total madness. Try it yourself by performing your own scientific experiment. Go out onto the street and pick someone at random, and tell them several things that you believe. First, tell them what you heard when you first learned TM -- that it was good for you, and that the deep rest enabled you to function more efficiently and with less stress. You will probably get a general agreement with this. Then say that it is your belief, based on scriptures and reported historical instances and such, that some humans can develop special powers and abilities (the siddhis) that others have not, and possibly even levitate. No one's likely to call you crazy for this, because it is after all a matter of belief, and is no weirder after all than believing in a heaven filled with angels playing harps or that Christ walked on water. But now tell them that you believe that a number of people as special as yourself generate so much Woo Woo by grunting and bouncing around on their butts on slabs of foam that THEY CAN CREATE WORLD PEACE, all by themselves, with no further action needed. My bet is that the strangers you've selected for this experiment are going to start edging away from you nervously, if not actually running down the street away from you. The very idea is absurd, and based on a level of self-importance that most people on the planet associate only with full-blown insanity. As I've said, I'd left the TMO before Maharishi ever started talking about this. If I'd still been there I would have laughed in his face and walked out of the room, never to return. So I find it difficult to imagine people listening to it and being SO self-absorbed and self-important that they actually bought it. The TM-Sidhis were originally introduced as a means to an end, a way to speed up the enlightenment process. There was not a WORD about what performing them might do for anyone else. That only came later, after a number of people had actually learned the siddhis and (surprise!) neither siddhis nor enlightenment had appeared. The whole original selling point of getting people to pay thousands of dollars to learn them had been revealed to be false. So Maharishi had to do *something* to try to get people to keep doing them, and to entice new people to learn them. Voila. The group consciousness thang. What began as mere pragmatism (finding a room somewhere and chipping in to get a discount on slabs of foam rather than each person buying some for their own home) was turned into an exercise in Woo Woo. Doing program in a group was presented as being Good In Itself. You were off the program if you *didn't* do your program in a group. Hierarchies were invented to make the butt-bouncers higher and more important than mere meditators. Dogma was invented about how powerful the
