[FairfieldLife] Cassandra Wilson - I can't stand the rain

[Emily Reyn]

Not very festive, but tomorrow's the turning point.  She's got a unique voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BU6o0D5AA&feature=related

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry (Emily)

[Bob Price]

turquoiseb




> And it's been as magical an experience for me walking around
> town as this video is. It's taught me that even remembering
> to smile at a stranger is an act of kindness.


***BP: Barry, I'm wondering, if everyone, as they were walking around town, had 
to remind themselves to smile, would that be the same, as everyone, walking 
around town---pretending to see, in a world where everyone is blind?  


turquoiseb



>...and the different effects it has on people. I found
>it earlier today and, just as an experiment, posted it
>widely on forums I participate in.

>The *variance* of reactions interest me. On forums that
>I would class as "Hindu-based," there was a lot of push-
>back, even anger. On Buddhist forums, more "Wow. They
>really got it." 


***BP: I want to make sure I have this right; please correct if I'm wrong, 
you're saying: "I have undertaken a study, and confirmed that Buddhists smile 
more than Hindus", how am I doing so far? Would that include all Buddhists and 
Hindus, for example, are you saying the Japanese smile more than people from 
India? If that's the case, I'm not sure I can go along with this one, I 
actually have the impression that Indians smile more than the Japanese, 
although I'm not sure about Filipino's, but that might be because they're 
mostly Catholic, except for the ones that are Muslim, who, if memory serves, 
smile way too much for people with so many challenges. Then of course there are 
the Indonesian Hindu's from Bali, they definitely smile more than the Japanese; 
in fact, I would say, even the Canadians smile more than the Japanese, but I'm 
not sure how many Hindu's live in Canada, maybe MZ can help us with that one. 
In fact, the Dutch are not exactly what you
 would call *smilers*, but, on the other hand, the Italians smile with hardly 
any provocation, I wonder if they're just practicing or they actually find 
something funny about the rest of us, hard to tell really. Come to think of it, 
in my travels there were a couple of things that struck me about smilers. 
First, I hope I'm not stereo typing here, but it seems there is a relationship 
between wealth and smiling, in fact---its the strangest thing---its been my 
experience, that the poorer a nationality, the more they seem to smile, and the 
richer a nationality is the more they seem to stop practicing their smile. 
Which brings up a great question (you've noticed you have this effect on me). 
If all this is true, does this mean that rich people are more sincere than poor 
people? The second thing I've noticed in underdeveloped countries is that there 
are always rich people, but never any middle class; so I'm wondering if we go 
ahead and help Wall Street destroy
 the middle class will we be able to get Americans and Europeans smiling again? 
What would you think if we modified your statement slightly, without 
compromising the empirical nature of your findings, of course. Can we say: "The 
*variance* of reactions interest me. I found Hindu's do not smile as much as 
Buddhists, except for the Japanese when they visit Bangalore and the Indian 
when they visit Osaka."  What do you think; I'm here for you bro. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=351l62Yx0oI&feature=related



From: Emily Reyn 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:29:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry (Bob)


EMILY: Bob...you are truly living up to the affectionate title of HotBob...have 
you explored the idea that you might be a tiny bit psychic - maybe its all that 
past and on-going meditation in your house that's created such uber-perception 
on your part.


***BP: I'm constantly telling the wife I'm psychic; cheeky sod that she is, she 
asked me: "why doesn't it work for things that can at least be measured, like 
when I telepathically asked you to shut up and not embarrass me at the office 
Christmas party last night when you were trying to convince my business 
associates that Leon Trotsky was more pro business than Stalin would
have had us believe; you don't need to be psychic to know that when their eyes 
glass over, it is not a signal for you to "dig deeper."


EMILY: I went for a long swim this afternoon to decompress and cannot stop 
laughing again - this whole post of yours was fully entertaining and I am 
learning so much.  Re: my piece.  First, Chagall..now Joan Armatrading..the 
cherry on top.  I catapulted right up off the chair to the ceiling again this 
morning.  A whole piece of my life in musical memory came back.  How did you 
know? I had to go sorting through my cassette tapes (the ones I don't listen 
to, but that record my past, so can't throw away yet) to find her again.  


***BP: Its refreshing to know someone perceptive enough to realize I have 
psychic powers despite how glassy the eyes of my audience get.  


EMILY: Now, I have to go search through the garage (where my real self is 
packed away) for my Gr

[FairfieldLife] Ellen's Post Office Spoof

[Emily Reyn]

OK.  The cards are in the mail tomorrow.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzQ7i3_WDY&feature=youtu.be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting

[Emily Reyn]

Don't forget Obba...he's in the running for spontaneous poetry these days :)



>
> From: seventhray1 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:30 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting
> 
>
>  
>for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem.  (This is business, 
>so reply if you'll do this)  Emily, maybe you can get some nice scented 
>candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent.  Judy, maybe you can find some 
>nice decorations.  Bob how bout a witty little skit.
>
>I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", or if 
>he'll start right in with recommending sex acts.  At any rate it's only a few 
>short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, (intended) again.
>
>Love, Ray
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes video

[Emily Reyn]

The video is perfect for me.  I've never seen it either.  I'm coming up on my 
one year anniversary of leaving corporate - it was soo perfect and such a 
perfect song to accompany.  Yes, I know cassettes.  Bob keeps posting songs I 
have on cassette from my life prior to my life.



>
> From: whynotnow7 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:06 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes video
> 
>
>  
>Thanks for finding the video to one of my past favorites! I had this on 
>cassette (remember those?), and the earlier Yes LPs - loved the artwork. The 
>video is not what I expected after all these years, but then again I didn't 
>write the song. 
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> I found the perfect video..the end of the corporate experience...sorry, it's 
>> so perfect, I have to post it.  My PTSD therapy starts in January.  There is 
>> hope at the very very end.
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9goxeGdxi8&feature=related
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > wgm,Good video clip.  I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this 
> > Youtube clip.  It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement 
> > can't now.  
> > 
> > I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM 
> > teacher training course (1973).  Then at some point in the discussion some 
> > pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a 
> > line of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?"  
> > "Where?"  After a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , 
> > "well fuck this..." he clammed up entirely right there on the subject and 
> > went back to transcending meditation 101.   He never publicly revisited the 
> > subject using these terms.
> 
> 
> Hadn't heard that, thanks. I think it at least needs to be known what the 
> tmorg's position is on Kundalini, etc. Doesn't mean they have to overtly 
> teach it, just acknowledge it, it's basic Yoga 101.
> 
>

Yeah, looks like the new TM 'Ved and Physiology' course offering is about as 
close as they will come.  It was already in the works as the founder died so it 
is okay to release it as a new kind of technique.  Their challenge as they 
evidently see it is to position it given all the railing they have done for so 
long against other contemplative and concentrating (attention) practices and 
maintain their market position of the brand and market share.  So it is buried 
now more inside for now as continuing education and narry a chakra or kundalini 
mentioned.  

There is certianly a chance the Maharaja will do it with more traditional 
language as the Ved and Physio model is billed as something he did together 
with Maharishi.  Different from TM though, he could probably progress this and 
modify the technique of the Ved and Physiology course in a way that TM is more 
sacrosanct and they would not.  It is an interesting dynamic to watch in this 
post-founder era.  -Buck 

> Don't know enough about Roger Ram's book to discern if it's in there...(maybe 
> it's 'cloaked' under a different name :-), like vayu (airs) which are prana, 
> or something.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting

[seventhray1]

All right then, I'll just have to entertain myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> I'm sorry Jim.  A composition.  A musical composition would certainly be
> in order.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> wrote:
> >
> > for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem. (This is
> business, so reply if you'll do this) Emily, maybe you can get some nice
> scented candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent. Judy, maybe you
> can find some nice decorations. Bob how bout a witty little skit.
> >
> > I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You
> Bitches", or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any
> rate it's only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his
> presents, (intended) again.
> >
> > Love, Ray
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting

[seventhray1]

I'm sorry Jim.  A composition.  A musical composition would certainly be
in order.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
> for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem. (This is
business, so reply if you'll do this) Emily, maybe you can get some nice
scented candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent. Judy, maybe you
can find some nice decorations. Bob how bout a witty little skit.
>
> I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You
Bitches", or if he'll start right in with recommending sex acts. At any
rate it's only a few short 48 hours when we may be graced with his
presents, (intended) again.
>
> Love, Ray
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
> They fall like snowflakes from his coprophagous mouth.
>
Dude, you are F'n busted.  Only Robin is permitted to use words of that
magnitude.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[azgrey]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Such a fascination with excrement, Vajihad. You oughta integrate that base 
> chaktra, otherwise you just sound like a shit head.
> 
 
Another of the aphorisms of Baba Jim Flanegin, the self-proclaimed
Enlightened guy. 

They fall like snowflakes from his coprophagous mouth. 

[FairfieldLife] Who Wants To Be In Charge of the Bunting

[seventhray1]

for Ravi's return. MZ, I bet you can compose a nice poem.  (This is business, 
so reply if you'll do this)  Emily, maybe you can get some nice scented 
candles. I think I'd recommend patchouli scent.  Judy, maybe you can find some 
nice decorations.  Bob how bout a witty little skit.

I wonder if he'll come on nice like, with a friendly "Fuck You Bitches", or if 
he'll start right in with recommending sex acts.  At any rate it's only a few 
short 48 hours when we may be graced with his presents, (intended) again.

Love, Ray

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[whynotnow7]

How can he do that?! He'll be the turkey! [Ta-ding]

Thank you, I'll be here all week - try the veal, I hear its delicious!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> This year we planned
> > ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
> > one this year.
> 
> Will you be saying the grace?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yes video

[whynotnow7]

Thanks for finding the video to one of my past favorites! I had this on 
cassette (remember those?), and the earlier Yes LPs - loved the artwork. The 
video is not what I expected after all these years, but then again I didn't 
write the song.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> I found the perfect video..the end of the corporate experience...sorry, it's 
> so perfect, I have to post it.  My PTSD therapy starts in January.  There is 
> hope at the very very end.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9goxeGdxi8&feature=related
>

[FairfieldLife] Yes video

[Emily Reyn]

I found the perfect video..the end of the corporate experience...sorry, it's so 
perfect, I have to post it.  My PTSD therapy starts in January.  There is hope 
at the very very end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9goxeGdxi8&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
This year we planned
> ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
> one this year.

Will you be saying the grace?

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[whynotnow7]

You have an odd way of showing your concern and love. This all sounds like a 
recording to me.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:19 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> 
> > The deal is, Vajihad, you have not exactly been forthcoming about your TM 
> > experience, dodging and weaving for years. Then Robin joins FFL, and all of 
> > your nastiness, your impotence, and your arrogance that you used to delight 
> > spraying about regarding Maharishi has now found a new target. Its 
> > pathological. Your Buddhist-Buddy-Barry has already said he enjoys the 
> > sadistic delight of poking malicious fun at others with spiritual beliefs 
> > contrary to his. That your excuse too?
> 
> 
> I guess one of my faults is WNN that once I know a person, any person, 
> there's a part of me that 'keeps track' of that person - should anything 
> happen to them. If 'something' does, and I can be there to help that person - 
> I'm there - that's just the way I am.
> 
> I'd suspect, Barry's pretty much the same honestly. Probably moreso, as he's 
> more mobile than I am.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All the days we've been together
> All the days we've been apart
> Add up to a bunch of nothing
> If I'm not still in your heart
> 
> I never want you to be 
> Just a page in my history
> 
> Someone I used to love.
> 
> (…)
>

[FairfieldLife] Strange Trips

[Yifu]

http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/trips.htm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Vaj]

On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:19 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

> The deal is, Vajihad, you have not exactly been forthcoming about your TM 
> experience, dodging and weaving for years. Then Robin joins FFL, and all of 
> your nastiness, your impotence, and your arrogance that you used to delight 
> spraying about regarding Maharishi has now found a new target. Its 
> pathological. Your Buddhist-Buddy-Barry has already said he enjoys the 
> sadistic delight of poking malicious fun at others with spiritual beliefs 
> contrary to his. That your excuse too?


I guess one of my faults is WNN that once I know a person, any person, there's 
a part of me that 'keeps track' of that person - should anything happen to 
them. If 'something' does, and I can be there to help that person - I'm there - 
that's just the way I am.

I'd suspect, Barry's pretty much the same honestly. Probably moreso, as he's 
more mobile than I am.




All the days we've been together
All the days we've been apart
Add up to a bunch of nothing
If I'm not still in your heart

I never want you to be 
Just a page in my history

Someone I used to love.

(…)

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[whynotnow7]

The deal is, Vajihad, you have not exactly been forthcoming about your TM 
experience, dodging and weaving for years. Then Robin joins FFL, and all of 
your nastiness, your impotence, and your arrogance that you used to delight 
spraying about regarding Maharishi has now found a new target. Its 
pathological. Your Buddhist-Buddy-Barry has already said he enjoys the sadistic 
delight of poking malicious fun at others with spiritual beliefs contrary to 
his. That your excuse too?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:33 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> 
> > otherwise you just sound like a shit head.
> 
> 
> Yeah, so maybe my chaktras aren't aligned.
>

[FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca rites featured at Willka T'ka Garden Paradise Resort, Peru

[Yifu]

more of Richard Clarke's travels. The Ayahuasca room appears to be next to the 
Yoga Hall.

http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/willka-tikagarden-paradise-resort-in-perus-sacred-valley/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Vaj]

On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:33 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

> otherwise you just sound like a shit head.


Yeah, so maybe my chaktras aren't aligned.

[FairfieldLife] Scenes of Rishikesh

[Yifu]

Richard Clarke travels to Rishikesh
http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/scenes-of-rishikesh/

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[whynotnow7]

Such a fascination with excrement, Vajihad. You oughta integrate that base 
chaktra, otherwise you just sound like a shit head.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> 
> > There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and mug old ladies. 
> > Any truth to that, Vajihad?
> 
> None, Rim-job Jim.
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Vaj]

On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

> There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and mug old ladies. 
> Any truth to that, Vajihad?

None, Rim-job Jim.

[FairfieldLife] Measuring the Great Soul of an Atheist

[maskedzebra]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/12/postscript-christopher-hitchens.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:

> Steve, I know you were just teasing, obviously you agree with my
> premise, although I wasn't completely sure what your examples were all
about;

Bob, I don't always have a rhyme or reason to those  postings, but let
me try to ease you back into your comfort zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXYYfHICSc



> the Crosby/Kay clip did bring to mind that question women sometimes
ask, from
> time to time, usually on Sundays, about what the quarterbacks are
really up to when
> they shove their hands, between the legs, of the big guy, in front of
them,
> with his butt in the air. I tell her "its a guy thing", is that what
> you say? And just a heads up; when mobilizing a group of friends for
safari, I
> suggest you avoid Curtis's trap of picking partners that can run fast,
frankly,
> since we're trying to bag a lion, I think how fast my partners can run
is a bit
> beside the point, I meanhow many lions have you out run lately? I
figure, how
> good a shot they are, is the criteria o go with; that's why, for me,
for my safaris,
> its still Judy, MZ, and Raja Ravi Yogi.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tree Huggers in Seattle

[Emily Reyn]

The tree sweaters are an art project new this year I think.  

Snow would be great - Seattle won't be prepared - we never are.  Heck, we have 
yet to learn how to drive in the rain. "Slow learners" we truly are in many 
respects.  



>
> From: John 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:08 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tree Huggers in Seattle
> 
>
>  
>I don't remember those tree huggers when I was in Seattle.  But I used to eat 
>lunch at Pioneer Square which is in one of the photos you referenced.
>
>Snow should be coming soon in your town.  Good luck with that!
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> We love our trees...Merry Christmas.
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71633812@N08/sets/72157628515392341/
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
  And just a heads up; when mobilizing a group of friends for safari, I
> suggest you avoid Curtis's trap of picking partners that can run fast,
frankly,
> since we're trying to bag a lion, I think how fast my partners can run
is a bit
> beside the point, I meanhow many lions have you out run lately?
Come now Bob.  It's not about outrunning the lion.  It's about
outrunning you.  Now, if you have my back,  if you were predisposed to
such a thing,  would you stand up to lion, and let me make my getaway,
or would you rather I do that?  Just askin.  I really don't know.
Probably everybody is running just to save their own lives.  And you
think about those philosophical issues later.  Do I feel slighted to not
be on your list?  Well maybe a tiny bit. But alliances are so risky
here.  Sheesh, if that ain't an understatement.
I've adopted the arms length approach for the most part.  But my chest
did stick out a little when you mentioned me as someone you felt some
affinity with.  (-:  And yes, I feel the same way about you.
I just think the arena you play in dwarfs mine by an exponent or two.
I figure, how
> good a shot they are, is the criteria o go with; that's why, for me,
for my safaris,
> its still Judy, MZ, and Raja Ravi Yogi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[maskedzebra]

There is a little orphaned sentence fragment that I am going to "put down'.

When Judy doesn't get the irony, that means I'm getting too transcendentally 
ironic.

While I'm at it, might as well make another aside: Thanks for the kind words, 
Vaj.

Robin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Judy, Judy: I was being ironic (inserting that question)—unless this response 
> is itself your own sense of irony :-)
> 
> Anyhow I was just kidding.
> 
> I appreciate the pertinence of your question, however. "Where is there to go 
> from here?"
> 
> I will get around to answering that one too.
> 
> We will miss the big guns [your absence until Friday or Saturday].
> 
> Robin
> 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> > 
> > > But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either.
> > > But the goddamn thing is: *they would have been* had I lived
> > > before the Second World War.
> > > 
> > > Now, Judy, does that stitch the whole thing together finally?
> > 
> > It should put in a crucial stitch for those who were
> > missing it, certainly.
> > 
> > Here's one that's still missing for me: Someone asked
> > awhile back, Where do you (Robin) go from here?--or
> > words to that effect. I can't remember for sure, but
> > I don't think you responded. If you did, I'd appreciate
> > a recap. What keeps you going if there's no "there" to
> > get to?
> > 
> > 
> > That's 50 and out for me. Back Friday or Saturday.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tree Huggers in Seattle

[John]

I don't remember those tree huggers when I was in Seattle.  But I used to eat 
lunch at Pioneer Square which is in one of the photos you referenced.

Snow should be coming soon in your town.  Good luck with that!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> We love our trees...Merry Christmas.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71633812@N08/sets/72157628515392341/
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[maskedzebra]

Judy, Judy: I was being ironic (inserting that question)—unless this response 
is itself your own sense of irony :-)

Anyhow I was just kidding.

I appreciate the pertinence of your question, however. "Where is there to go 
from here?"

I will get around to answering that one too.

We will miss the big guns [your absence until Friday or Saturday).

Robin

I will miss you un

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> 
> > But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either.
> > But the goddamn thing is: *they would have been* had I lived
> > before the Second World War.
> > 
> > Now, Judy, does that stitch the whole thing together finally?
> 
> It should put in a crucial stitch for those who were
> missing it, certainly.
> 
> Here's one that's still missing for me: Someone asked
> awhile back, Where do you (Robin) go from here?--or
> words to that effect. I can't remember for sure, but
> I don't think you responded. If you did, I'd appreciate
> a recap. What keeps you going if there's no "there" to
> get to?
> 
> 
> That's 50 and out for me. Back Friday or Saturday.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[whynotnow7]

There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and mug old ladies. Any 
truth to that, Vajihad?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> 
> > But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either. But the goddamn 
> > thing is: *they would have been* had I lived before the Second World War.
> 
> 
> Let me guess, living the existential life-style?
> 
> What was that book your uncle gave you?
> 
> 
> In any event - you have to realize, at one time, this list was told in no 
> uncertain terms: the word from the TMO was clear, RWC had gone insane and 
> then committed suicide. It was and is actually good to know you are still 
> alive and….relatively…OK. ;-)
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Vaj]

On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, maskedzebra wrote:

> But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either. But the goddamn 
> thing is: *they would have been* had I lived before the Second World War.


Let me guess, living the existential life-style?

What was that book your uncle gave you?


In any event - you have to realize, at one time, this list was told in no 
uncertain terms: the word from the TMO was clear, RWC had gone insane and then 
committed suicide. It was and is actually good to know you are still alive 
and….relatively…OK. ;-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of raunchydog
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

 

  


Newt certainly has the Christmas spirit...NOT! 

"A YouTube video uploaded on Tuesday casts Republican presidential candidate
Newt Gingrich as the mean-spirited protagonist from Dr. Seuss' How the
Grinch Stole Christmas.

The video, by Adam Kontras, intersperses quotes from Gingrich with a
surprisingly believable impersonation of the singing of Boris Karloff, who
narrated The Grinch movie.

The parody comes after the presidential candidate said public school
janitors should be replaced by schoolchildren
  and later
suggested that the children of poor families were lazy
  . "

Sounds like something Maharishi once said, that people are poor because
they're lazy.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:

> But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either.
> But the goddamn thing is: *they would have been* had I lived
> before the Second World War.
> 
> Now, Judy, does that stitch the whole thing together finally?

It should put in a crucial stitch for those who were
missing it, certainly.

Here's one that's still missing for me: Someone asked
awhile back, Where do you (Robin) go from here?--or
words to that effect. I can't remember for sure, but
I don't think you responded. If you did, I'd appreciate
a recap. What keeps you going if there's no "there" to
get to?


That's 50 and out for me. Back Friday or Saturday.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[maskedzebra]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > Darling Obbajeeba,
> > 
> > I can't get rid of the hate in my heart, so please bear with me while I 
> > attack you without cause.
> > 
> > Did you watch Ellen Degeneres open that David Lynch Foundation event? And 
> > did you read Bob Price's wife's post attempting to persuade Emily to start 
> > Transcendental Meditation? And do you recall when TM for you was the best 
> > thing going—before the 1980's, that is? (By the way, I am going to assume 
> > you are an initiator; if you are not then some of my comments here are not, 
> > for you, completely on the mark.)
> > 
> > No one could see anything about Ellen Degeneres (or for that matter in 
> > Martin Scorsese's comments) or in 'Mrs. Price's' commentary which would 
> > imply any kind of influence over their own individualism and originality. 
> > TM is the most subtle and efficacious technique there is to produce a 
> > blissful experience, and the most subtle kind of changes—almost 
> > immediately—in one's personal life. If you listen to Ellen read what Mrs. 
> > Price says in her post, you realize that TM, mechanically and efficaciously 
> > considered, beats any other spiritual technique in existence—I would even 
> > say (from an Eastern point of view) ever. The fact that in doing TM one 
> > does not change anything about oneself in terms of one's own values, 
> > beliefs, or life style—and Ellen when she extolled the benefits of TM was 
> > as convincing and persuasive as anyone could be—likewise when 'Mrs Price' 
> > wrote her letter to Emily—is something without precedent. There is no 
> > 'technique' that I know of which is not wedded to some belief system in the 
> > very practising of that technique. Not so TM.
> > 
> > Transcendental Meditation, therefore, in my opinion, obbajeeba, is sui 
> > generis, intrinsically unique, like nothing else. Doing TM does not 
> > resemble doing anything else. There is—this is my argument based upon 
> > empirical evidence—absolutely no cross-pollination with any other technique 
> > or forms of meditation. In fact, I contend that whatever alternative 
> > spiritual tradition a former TMer turns to—especially a former initiator—he 
> > or she will approach, and even practise—and evaluate—that new technique 
> > *entirely in terms of their pervious experience of Transcendental 
> > Meditation*. TM is not just different, obbajeeba; it is distinct and 
> > separate from everything else spiritually in existence.
> > 
> > This is why Rick Archer always comes off—to me at least—as so much more 
> > conversant with the religious forms of experience, with spiritual reality, 
> > with how to understand states of consciousness than any of his guests 
> > (except for the TM ones: like Phil Goldberg and Dana Sawyer). Despite 
> > turning from TM and Maharishi, his nervous system has been schooled in the 
> > TM-Maharishi-Guru Dev universe, and this shows through at every level of 
> > himself. Even as he now professes to have a more authentic religious 
> > experience through his relationship with Mata Amritanandamayi (Amma: the 
> > Hugging Saint) than he did with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
> > 
> > Every one of us keen initiators, throughout the early and mid seventies, 
> > would have been nonplussed by any TM teacher trying to make the argument 
> > you make here. It wouldn't make sense to us. We did not just abide by what 
> > Maharishi had told us about guarding "the purity of The Teaching"; we felt 
> > it in our very soul. It was so manifestly clear to us that TM was something 
> > absolutely special, and could never be compared to anything that had been 
> > offered in our lifetime [our present one :-)] We acted on behalf of this 
> > notion of "No Saints" scrupulously, but not, as I say, out of deference to 
> > Maharishi; we could intuitively, deeply, feel the necessity of this. After 
> > all, what Master had produced the experience that "Mother is at Home"? What 
> > Master could allow us to confirm for ourselves that we were getting "The 
> > Support of Nature"? What other Master could deliver on his promise that 
> > once we became initiators, we could give to some other human being, a 
> > perfect stranger, this ultimate transcendent experience? The Checking Notes 
> > themselves—the Checking Procedure as memorized and applied—are more 
> > dazzlingly and perfectly efficient than anything in existence. And there is 
> > no Master in our lifetime who systematically made teachers of this wisdom 
> > such that we could actually have the experience of tuning into the Holy 
> > Tradition, to having the experiences that previously were reserved for 
> > Hindus who sought silence in some Himalayan cave. 
> > 
> > Lookee here, obbajeeba: TM, Maharishi, becoming a TM Teacher—all the 
> > advanced techniques that followed (including of course the Two Week 
> > Extension and the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[raunchydog]

Newt certainly has the Christmas spirit...NOT!


"A YouTube video uploaded on Tuesday casts Republican presidential 
candidate Newt Gingrich as the mean-spirited protagonist from Dr.
Seuss'  How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

The video, by Adam Kontras, intersperses quotes from Gingrich with a 
surprisingly believable impersonation of the singing of Boris Karloff, 
who narrated The Grinch movie.

The parody comes after the presidential candidate said public school
janitors should be replaced by schoolchildren
  and later
suggested that the children of poor families were lazy
  . "




http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/07/parody-video-youre-a-mean-one-newt\
-gingrich/




 
[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/newtgrinch-screen\
.jpg]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
>
> Now that's the Christmas spirit NOT!
>
>
> 
>  From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:11 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
>
>
>
> Â
>
> Bhairitu,
>
> Would you really have done the nasty deed and taken the penalty?
>
> I would have yelled at him from the first moment I saw him to the
slamming of his limo door.  These bastards deserve every bit of
negativity one can legally toss at them. A pie in the face gives them
victim-hood, so I say scream instead.  "Mike check" them every chance.
>
> If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the
internment camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see
themselves being rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target
high-profile grubs like Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the
monsters will get two grams of lead through their skulls, but I would
favor a life-sentence in a daily-water-boarding facility.
>
> And the reason for such a brutal punishment is that Newt and others
have caused, what?, at least a million fold of such misery to all of us
in total.  Just look at your IRA  and see what the housing bubble did to
it.  For all the angst that Newt's been a direct part of the doing, I
say give him an experience of suffocating to death once a day and hope
he lives enough years to get all he's got coming. On a live TV streaming
video would be nice.  It would get the word out to the elites, ya know?
>
> What?  Too brutal. Edg is over the top angry again?
>
> 10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to
sleep tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason.
>
> Edg
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> >
> > On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > > As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee
this morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself,
Newt Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a
lot shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my
hand, I realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to
abolish child labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> > >
> > > He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my
Flip camera so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed
him as he left the building.
> > >
> > > Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not
surprising to bump into them just about anywhere.
> > >
> > > http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the
> > chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country
and
> > Pig Newtie won't come near it.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[raunchydog]

Bhairitu, it turns out the while I was at HyVee a guy threw a verbal pie at 
Newt and darn, if I didn't missed the fun:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/20/iowa-man-to-gingrich-youre-a-fcking-ahole/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Of course not but Raunchy set it up by saying she waited by the pie 
> section. :-D
> 
> It's like we ran out of souls to re-incarnate some time ago and the 
> goblins are taking human bodies.  Hence monsters like Newt.
> 
> On 12/21/2011 10:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> > Bhairitu,
> >
> > Would you really have done the nasty deed and taken the penalty?
> >
> > I would have yelled at him from the first moment I saw him to the slamming 
> > of his limo door.  These bastards deserve every bit of negativity one can 
> > legally toss at them. A pie in the face gives them victim-hood, so I say 
> > scream instead.  "Mike check" them every chance.
> >
> > If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the internment 
> > camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see themselves being 
> > rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target high-profile grubs 
> > like Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the monsters will get two grams 
> > of lead through their skulls, but I would favor a life-sentence in a 
> > daily-water-boarding facility.
> >
> > And the reason for such a brutal punishment is that Newt and others have 
> > caused, what?, at least a million fold of such misery to all of us in 
> > total.  Just look at your IRA  and see what the housing bubble did to it.  
> > For all the angst that Newt's been a direct part of the doing, I say give 
> > him an experience of suffocating to death once a day and hope he lives 
> > enough years to get all he's got coming. On a live TV streaming video would 
> > be nice.  It would get the word out to the elites, ya know?
> >
> > What?  Too brutal. Edg is over the top angry again?
> >
> > 10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to sleep 
> > tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason.
> >
> > Edg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> >>> As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this 
> >>> morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt 
> >>> Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot 
> >>> shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I 
> >>> realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish 
> >>> child labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> >>>
> >>> He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip 
> >>> camera so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him 
> >>> as he left the building.
> >>>
> >>> Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to 
> >>> bump into them just about anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the
> >> chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and
> >> Pig Newtie won't come near it.
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[maskedzebra]

Are you Tim Tibow playing Andy Kaulfman? I assume you are being—quite 
effectively—ironic. And I appreciate the in-joke that I am as far from being a 
Jesus freak as I could possible be. While at the same time not giving the TMO 
much love either. Very funny stuff, jason, but a little bit too Jedi Spockish 
for most FFL readers I suspect.

Did you ever consider they might take you literally?

It's possible, you know.

But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either. But the goddamn 
thing is: *they would have been* had I lived before the Second World War.

Now, Judy, does that stitch the whole thing together finally?

Jason, you are one crazy guy—but I think I get it. I sure hope I do.

Where's the non-ironic you?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
>
>  
>  
> Robbie boy, if you want to to be a part of the 'Jesus freak 
> Show' so be it.
> 
> But none of us here in the forum want any part of it.  
> Judeo-Christian philosophy is a major deception that has 
> conned humanity for centuries.  I don't know weather you are 
> an unwitting player in this greatest con-job ever played on 
> humanity.  You are just fooling yourself.  
>  
>  
>  
> From: emptybill 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:57 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
> Chivukula
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> > 
> > Robin sez:
> > I knew there would be others who would disagree with you, and I was not 
> > disappointed in this (e.g. emptybill). But within how I have understood 
> > what you have said about me, I believe emptybill has provided evidence of a 
> > misunderstanding of me. But there will be no proof of his failure of 
> > sensitivity versus your precision of sensitivity. So I must leave it there.
> >
> > Oh gosh, the insensitivity is so crushing, how can you continue? However no 
> > need for you to demonstrate or exemplify your claims since all truth is 
> > self-evident and self-revealing. Isn't it? 
> Only god knows our heart, so who cares about veracity? The human faculty of 
> knowing (nous/intellectus) is as corrupted in its nature as human will is 
> debased by self-love. This is all we need to know, and any other conclusion 
> is mere fantasy. Adequation is for the angels, not us.
> > This is why Jesus (and Him crucified) walked the earth, isn't it? To show 
> > that He is the only Logos and all else is deception.
> It is so simple, isn't it?>
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dear whynotnow:
> > > 
> > > No one that I know is above feeling some happiness in being praised. What 
> > > makes your overall review of my posts, though, so gratifying to me, is 
> > > the sense that you have really caught my own intention and, if I may say 
> > > it, even my own experience in writing at FFL. 
> > > 
> > > "Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
> > > create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
> > > became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you".
> > > 
> > > This may beâ€"from my own first person ontological perspectiveâ€"the most 
> > > accurate and perspicacious description I have ever read about what is 
> > > going on when I write. And I am led on to the conclusion that your own 
> > > way of apprehending reality partakes of a certain grace and elegance that 
> > > affords you the inner confidence that you have 'seen what is really 
> > > there'. I think this quite an exceptional virtue: to catch at what is 
> > > most real and individuated, ignoring what would be merelyâ€"inadvertently 
> > > of courseâ€"a derivative and conditioned response.
> > > 
> > > You see, whynotnow: you are meeting my own innocence [if I may use that 
> > > term since you have generously applied it to me] with your own innocence. 
> > > This creates some agreement in reality. It is not merely someone saying 
> > > something nice or flattering about someone else. For me at least you have 
> > > in this post received and then articulated almost perfectly the context 
> > > within which I express myself. And I have to admit it: I was a little 
> > > floored by this. So, then, whynotnow, it was not so much the fact that 
> > > you came out so positively in your review, it was the fact that in all 
> > > that you said, you identified the minute particulars of what I 
> > > attemptâ€"personallyâ€"to do when I post at FFL.
> > > 
> > > And you also recognized the sense of how much I seek to make a completion 
> > > when I write; that is, the way I "delve into awareness in a 
> > > comprehensible way, weave a succinct explanation with no loose threads". 
> > > Again, whynotnow, it is not the favourability or positivity of what you 
> > > have said about me; no, it is something much more satisfying to me: viz. 
> > > the identification of seemingly every element in my original ambition; I 
> > > would have tho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[whynotnow7]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Who exactly are these Illuminati that might round us all up?
> 
> They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, Jewish bankers.
>
All of 'em look like Alan Greenspan?!

[FairfieldLife] Tree Huggers in Seattle

[Emily Reyn]

We love our trees...Merry Christmas.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71633812@N08/sets/72157628515392341/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[raunchydog]

Hijinks at HyVee 
http://youtu.be/qFhcoRl796Q
http://youtu.be/-0BOOgW7rHE

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this 
> > morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt 
> > Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot 
> > shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I 
> > realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child 
> > labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> >
> > He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
> > so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
> > the building.
> >
> > Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to 
> > bump into them just about anywhere.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
> >
> >
> 
> I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the 
> chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and 
> Pig Newtie won't come near it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> raunchydog:
> > I missed an opportunity to ask if he got 
> > his idea to abolish child labor laws from 
> > reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> >
> So, you're a Dickens reader.
> 
> But, when did Newt Gingrich advocate abolishing
> child labor laws? According to what I've read,
> Gingrich only wants to ease the laws so that
> more teenagers can get jobs at Safeway.
> 
> "Republicans and businesses that share Gingrich's 
> view see easing the restrictions as part of their 
> effort to cut back government regulation while 
> giving teenagers a chance to learn valuable work 
> habits..."
> 
> 'Newt Gingrich leads push to ease child-labor laws'
> San Francisco Chronicle, December 20, 2011
> http://tinyurl.com/7u7pelw
>

You got me there, Richard. Now that you've explained it, I see that easing 
child labor laws sends the wrong message to children of the elite 1% whose 
parents foreclose on homes and rip off public pensions. It might give rich kids 
the idea that replacing public union workers so they can hone their skills 
scrubbing toilets is something they should aspire to.

[FairfieldLife] Video: How the Gingrich Stole Christmas

[Bhairitu]

For our resident Gingrichphiles:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/447c05a4ec/how-the-gingrich-stole-christmas-narrated-by-paul-f-tompkins?playlist=featured_videos
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: On the New York subway at Christmas

[marekreavis]

I understand your friend's position, certainly, but the idea that Carroll 
promotes (and that I endorse) is for the money to be given without judgment or 
preconditions; given purely and freely as a gift. 

No matter who we are, there may be some other(s) who can and will find fault. 
Spending money on intoxicants, whether hard-earned or gratuitously received, 
may be easy to fault, but that's not the thrust behind Carroll's holiday 
gifting. It's more a recognition that if you have enough to give, why not just 
gift it -- acknowledge that the individual who's receiving it has the ability 
to do with it what they will. The recognition of their own (apparent) personal 
freedom of choice is part of the gift.

Happy Holidays, Rick, to both you and Irene.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of marekreavis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:53 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the New York subway at Christmas
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Great story.
> 
> John Carroll, a regular columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle, has a
> Christmas season tradition where he encourages everyone to go to their ATM
> and draw out as much cash as they think that they can afford, and then take
> that out to the streets and distribute as many $20 bills to the homeless and
> street beggars as they have twenties to give. No questions or conditions,
> just pure cash and for someone living on the streets (or just spending their
> days there) a twenty dollar bill is a big boost.
> 
> Maybe you can't do twenties, maybe the same routine with tens or fives would
> be more suitable to your situation, but it's still a big chunk of kindness
> for the receivers.
> 
> Your story from "Metropolitan Diaries" reminded me of that tradition, thanks
> for that.
> 
> I sent this story out to my list and got feedback from one guy that he would
> never give cash, as it would soon be converted into drugs or alcohol. He'd
> rather give a coat, etc.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[seekliberation]

ahhh, yesI have a special pair of oakley's that exposes their true 
identity.  I'm sure Hitler had the same technology that exposed their true 
identity back in the 1930's too.  

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Who exactly are these Illuminati that might round us all up?
> 
> They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, Jewish bankers.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Emily Reyn]

Dear Jason:

"None of us here in the forum" is quite presumptuous on your part; consider 
speaking only for yourself.  

>From what I've noticed on this forum - everyone is quite capable of 
>communicating their own positions; assumptions that one forum member may make 
>about another usually spurs further clarification or downright disagreement.



>
> From: Jason 
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:00 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
>Chivukula
> 
>
>  
> 
>Robbie boy, if you want to to be a part of the 'Jesus freak 
>Show' so be it.
>
>But none of us here in the forum want any part of it.  
>Judeo-Christian philosophy is a major deception that has 
>conned humanity for centuries.  I don't know weather you are 
>an unwitting player in this greatest con-job ever played on 
>humanity.  You are just fooling yourself.  
> 
> 
> 
>From: emptybill 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:57 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
>Chivukula
>
>
>> 
>> Robin sez:
>> I knew there would be others who would disagree with you, and I was not 
>> disappointed in this (e.g. emptybill). But within how I have understood what 
>> you have said about me, I believe emptybill has provided evidence of a 
>> misunderstanding of me. But there will be no proof of his failure of 
>> sensitivity versus your precision of sensitivity. So I must leave it there.
>>
>> Oh gosh, the insensitivity is so crushing, how can you continue? However no 
>> need for you to demonstrate or exemplify your claims since all truth is 
>> self-evident and self-revealing. Isn't it? 
>Only god knows our heart, so who cares about veracity? The human faculty of 
>knowing (nous/intellectus) is as corrupted in its nature as human will is 
>debased by self-love. This is all we need to know, and any other conclusion is 
>mere fantasy. Adequation is for the angels, not us.
>> This is why Jesus (and Him crucified) walked the earth, isn't it? To show 
>> that He is the only Logos and all else is deception.
>It is so simple, isn't it?>
>
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Dear whynotnow:
>> > 
>> > No one that I know is above feeling some happiness in being praised. What 
>> > makes your overall review of my posts, though, so gratifying to me, is the 
>> > sense that you have really caught my own intention and, if I may say it, 
>> > even my own experience in writing at FFL. 
>> > 
>> > "Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
>> > create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
>> > became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you".
>> > 
>> > This may be—from my own first person ontological perspective—the most 
>> > accurate and perspicacious
 description I have ever read about what is going on when I write. And I am led 
on to the conclusion that your own way of apprehending reality partakes of a 
certain grace and elegance that affords you the inner confidence that you have 
'seen what is really there'. I think this quite an exceptional virtue: to catch 
at what is most real and individuated, ignoring what would be 
merely—inadvertently of course—a derivative and conditioned response.
>> > 
>> > You see, whynotnow: you are meeting my own innocence [if I may use that 
>> > term since you have generously applied it to me] with your own innocence. 
>> > This creates some agreement in reality. It is not merely someone saying 
>> > something nice or flattering about someone else. For me at least you have 
>> > in this post received and then articulated almost perfectly the context 
>> > within which I express myself. And I have to admit it: I was a little 
>> > floored by this. So, then, whynotnow, it was not so
 much the fact that you came out so positively in your review, it was the fact 
that in all that you said, you identified the minute particulars of what I 
attempt—personally—to do when I post at FFL.
>> > 
>> > And you also recognized the sense of how much I seek to make a completion 
>> > when I write; that is, the way I "delve into awareness in a comprehensible 
>> > way, weave a succinct explanation with no loose threads". Again, 
>> > whynotnow, it is not the favourability or positivity of what you have said 
>> > about me; no, it is something much more satisfying to me: viz. the 
>> > identification of seemingly every element in my original ambition; I would 
>> > have thought at best certain persons would get the *effect* of all this; 
>> > but I had not anticipated someone who would anatomize my intention and my 
>> > method with this kind of delicate and acute sensitivity.
>> > 
>> > I won't quote the rest of your post, since it illustrates the same almost
 perfect grasp of my intention and my experience. The "genuineness", the sense 
of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
wrote:
>
> Who exactly are these Illuminati that might round us all up?

They're alien, shape-shifting, reptilian, Jewish bankers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different

[Emily Reyn]

Zarzari:  A simply lovely accompaniment to the morning - thank you.  



>
> From: zarzari_786 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:47 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different
> 
>
>  
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> Jagit Singh's voice is very soothing..I like this one 
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLFFwq-uuc&feature=related
>> 
>Emily, it's nice you bring him up, I'm a big fan of him, this album, sajda - 
>together with Lata, is my favorate:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7IUm8iXoTU
>
>He was called King of Ghazal, a persian type of poetry related to sufism.
>
>Many TMers probably are more aware of his Krishna Bhajans,
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwgJYc6v08
>
>He passed away 10. Oct this year. RIP
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tawakkal Mastan

[emptybill]

This would be a form of heresy for most Muslims. It would be seen as
falsely transferring (shirk) the attributes of Allah onto the Prophet
Muhammad and would be seen as making the same mistake attributed to
Christianity … confusing the nature of the absolute Godhead will a
relative, limited revelation.

Within Islam, "shirk" is a crime that cannot be forgiven; God may
forgive any sin except for committing "shirk" because it is seen as the
root confusion underpinning all others.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > > Are Hindus generally more tolerant of Sufi Islam? If so,
> > > is it because the Sufis are more tolerant of Hindus?
> >
> > Most of indian muslims are sufis! About 2/3. And yes, the
> > sufis, the saints of sufism, always stressed tolerance and
> > universality towards other faith, they converted by the
> > heart and not by sword, by attending and helping the poor.
> > Many sufi saints (Babas) are therefor recognized also by
> > hindus.
> >
> > You can read these two articles:
> > http://ignca.nic.in/cd_09019.htm
> > http://www.indianetzone.com/37/the_chishti_order_sufism.htm
>
> Thanks. I do know a little something about Sufism and
> have enormous respect for it.
>
> > > I'm assuming there's generally tension between Islam and
> > > Hinduism in India, but perhaps I'm wrong. What's been
> > > your observation?
> >
> > My observation is that they get along together well, better
> > than anywhere else in the world. India really is the land of
> > religious tolerance, giving refuge to religions persecuted
> > in their own countries, think of Jews who settled in Kerala,
> > of Parsis, (Zorastrians) who settled in Gujerat and around
> > Bombay, and of course the Tibetan buddhists, who were given
> > sepcial shelter by the indian government.
> >
> > But there is a minority of muslims, the deobandis a movement
> > that was e founded in India, representing a form of Wahhabism
> > there, which tries to counteract sufi islam in India. This is
> > basically the type of islam Bin Laden follows, these are the
> > fundamentalists, and there are also, more recently also
> > fundamentalists of the hindu order, the hindutvas of the RSS.
> > These people do not represent the majority, but they are
> > politically more active. As an opposition to the foramtion of
> > the Deobandis, the Barelvis have formed, representing sufism
>
> Ah. Didn't know about the Barelvis. The idea of Sufis forming
> a group in *opposition to* anything makes me a little uneasy.
> I guess inclusivism can never be absolute in practice, such
> that it would include exclusivism; but this makes for sticky
> and potentially perilous choices.
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barelvi
>
> Interesting list from this page of Barelvi beliefs about
> Muhammad:
>
> -
> He is "NOOR O BASHAR" means Noor (Light) as well as Human being.
> He is hazir (present in many places at the same time).
> He is nazir (witnessing all that goes on in the world).
> He has ilm-e-ghaib (knowledge of the unseen/unknown).
> He is mukhtaar kul (having the authority to do whatever he desired).
> -
>
> These would be heresies for non-Sufi strains of Islam,
> would they not?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[Mike Dixon]

Now that's the Christmas spirit NOT!
 


 From: Duveyoung 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee
 

 
   
 
Bhairitu,

Would you really have done the nasty deed and taken the penalty?

I would have yelled at him from the first moment I saw him to the slamming of 
his limo door.  These bastards deserve every bit of negativity one can legally 
toss at them. A pie in the face gives them victim-hood, so I say scream 
instead.  "Mike check" them every chance. 

If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the internment 
camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see themselves being 
rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target high-profile grubs like 
Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the monsters will get two grams of lead 
through their skulls, but I would favor a life-sentence in a 
daily-water-boarding facility. 

And the reason for such a brutal punishment is that Newt and others have 
caused, what?, at least a million fold of such misery to all of us in total.  
Just look at your IRA  and see what the housing bubble did to it.  For all the 
angst that Newt's been a direct part of the doing, I say give him an experience 
of suffocating to death once a day and hope he lives enough years to get all 
he's got coming. On a live TV streaming video would be nice.  It would get the 
word out to the elites, ya know?

What?  Too brutal. Edg is over the top angry again? 

10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to sleep 
tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason. 

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this 
> > morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt 
> > Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot 
> > shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I 
> > realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child 
> > labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> >
> > He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
> > so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
> > the building.
> >
> > Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to 
> > bump into them just about anywhere.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
> >
> >
> 
> I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the 
> chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and 
> Pig Newtie won't come near it.
>

   
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Jason]

 
 
Robbie boy, if you want to to be a part of the 'Jesus freak 
Show' so be it.

But none of us here in the forum want any part of it.  
Judeo-Christian philosophy is a major deception that has 
conned humanity for centuries.  I don't know weather you are 
an unwitting player in this greatest con-job ever played on 
humanity.  You are just fooling yourself.  
 
 
 
From: emptybill 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
Chivukula


 
 
 
 
> 
> Robin sez:
> I knew there would be others who would disagree with you, and I was not 
> disappointed in this (e.g. emptybill). But within how I have understood what 
> you have said about me, I believe emptybill has provided evidence of a 
> misunderstanding of me. But there will be no proof of his failure of 
> sensitivity versus your precision of sensitivity. So I must leave it there.
>
> Oh gosh, the insensitivity is so crushing, how can you continue? However no 
> need for you to demonstrate or exemplify your claims since all truth is 
> self-evident and self-revealing. Isn't it? 
Only god knows our heart, so who cares about veracity? The human faculty of 
knowing (nous/intellectus) is as corrupted in its nature as human will is 
debased by self-love. This is all we need to know, and any other conclusion is 
mere fantasy. Adequation is for the angels, not us.
> This is why Jesus (and Him crucified) walked the earth, isn't it? To show 
> that He is the only Logos and all else is deception.
It is so simple, isn't it?>

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> > 
> > Dear whynotnow:
> > 
> > No one that I know is above feeling some happiness in being praised. What 
> > makes your overall review of my posts, though, so gratifying to me, is the 
> > sense that you have really caught my own intention and, if I may say it, 
> > even my own experience in writing at FFL. 
> > 
> > "Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
> > create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
> > became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you".
> > 
> > This may be—from my own first person ontological perspective—the most 
> > accurate and perspicacious description I have ever read about what is going 
> > on when I write. And I am led on to the conclusion that your own way of 
> > apprehending reality partakes of a certain grace and elegance that affords 
> > you the inner confidence that you have 'seen what is really there'. I think 
> > this quite an exceptional virtue: to catch at what is most real and 
> > individuated, ignoring what would be merely—inadvertently of course—a 
> > derivative and conditioned response.
> > 
> > You see, whynotnow: you are meeting my own innocence [if I may use that 
> > term since you have generously applied it to me] with your own innocence. 
> > This creates some agreement in reality. It is not merely someone saying 
> > something nice or flattering about someone else. For me at least you have 
> > in this post received and then articulated almost perfectly the context 
> > within which I express myself. And I have to admit it: I was a little 
> > floored by this. So, then, whynotnow, it was not so much the fact that you 
> > came out so positively in your review, it was the fact that in all that you 
> > said, you identified the minute particulars of what I attempt—personally—to 
> > do when I post at FFL.
> > 
> > And you also recognized the sense of how much I seek to make a completion 
> > when I write; that is, the way I "delve into awareness in a comprehensible 
> > way, weave a succinct explanation with no loose threads". Again, whynotnow, 
> > it is not the favourability or positivity of what you have said about me; 
> > no, it is something much more satisfying to me: viz. the identification of 
> > seemingly every element in my original ambition; I would have thought at 
> > best certain persons would get the *effect* of all this; but I had not 
> > anticipated someone who would anatomize my intention and my method with 
> > this kind of delicate and acute sensitivity.
> > 
> > I won't quote the rest of your post, since it illustrates the same almost 
> > perfect grasp of my intention and my experience. The "genuineness", the 
> > sense of the "real": these are what constitute what is essential for me. I 
> > must stop here, whynotnow: please know you have—if I may say 
> > it—*objectively* understood what I am all about. And I never dreamed of 
> > someone understanding me in the way that I understand myself. 
> > 
> > I hope that this, what I have written here, does not come off as some 
> > opportunity to indulge in self-centered gratification or ego massaging, 
> > because that is not why I have written back to you. I have written this 
> > response out of my wonder and appreciation that someone has so 
> > intelligently del

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[Bhairitu]

Of course not but Raunchy set it up by saying she waited by the pie 
section. :-D

It's like we ran out of souls to re-incarnate some time ago and the 
goblins are taking human bodies.  Hence monsters like Newt.

On 12/21/2011 10:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> Bhairitu,
>
> Would you really have done the nasty deed and taken the penalty?
>
> I would have yelled at him from the first moment I saw him to the slamming of 
> his limo door.  These bastards deserve every bit of negativity one can 
> legally toss at them. A pie in the face gives them victim-hood, so I say 
> scream instead.  "Mike check" them every chance.
>
> If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the internment 
> camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see themselves being 
> rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target high-profile grubs 
> like Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the monsters will get two grams 
> of lead through their skulls, but I would favor a life-sentence in a 
> daily-water-boarding facility.
>
> And the reason for such a brutal punishment is that Newt and others have 
> caused, what?, at least a million fold of such misery to all of us in total.  
> Just look at your IRA  and see what the housing bubble did to it.  For all 
> the angst that Newt's been a direct part of the doing, I say give him an 
> experience of suffocating to death once a day and hope he lives enough years 
> to get all he's got coming. On a live TV streaming video would be nice.  It 
> would get the word out to the elites, ya know?
>
> What?  Too brutal. Edg is over the top angry again?
>
> 10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to sleep 
> tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason.
>
> Edg
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
>>> As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this 
>>> morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt 
>>> Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot 
>>> shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I 
>>> realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child 
>>> labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
>>>
>>> He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
>>> so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
>>> the building.
>>>
>>> Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to 
>>> bump into them just about anywhere.
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
>>>
>>>
>> I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the
>> chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and
>> Pig Newtie won't come near it.
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[seekliberation]

Who exactly are these Illuminati that might round us all up?  Just curious.

> If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the internment 
> camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see themselves being 
> rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target high-profile grubs 
> like Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the monsters will get two grams 
> of lead through their skulls, but I would favor a life-sentence in a 
> daily-water-boarding facility.   


 



> 10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to sleep 
> tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason.  
> 
> Edg
> 

Really?  If so, do the parents of these children know that there are some basic 
survival methods of purifying water that are very inexpensive, perhaps even 
free if you already have the materials at home?  

You make it sound like the apocolypse is coming.  Not that I don't think the 
system may collapse, but if 10,000 children die from drinking ditch water, 
that's a massive failure of common sense more so than corruption from a 
politician.  

seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[Jason]

 
 
 
From: emptybill 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
Chivukula
 
>  
> Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all I 
> dare say.
>
> Oh, you must mean Simone Weil ... "Every sin is an attempt to fly from 
> emptiness. " 
No wonder you ended up Buddhist. Now I know that date of you initiation: 1941.
>
> "The world is the closed door. It is a barrier. And at the same time it is 
> the way through." 
― Simone Weil
>
> "Now, this self is a dike, a divider, to keep these worlds from colliding 
> with each other… Upon passing across this dike, therefore, a blind man turns 
> out not to be blind, a wounded man turns out not to be wounded, and a sick 
> man turns out not to be sick. Upon crossing this dike, therefore, one even 
> passes from night into day, for, indeed, this world of Brahman is lit up once 
> and for all."
> -Chandogya Upanishad, 8.4.1


> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
 
> > 
> > Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all 
> > I dare say.
 
> > >
> > > And please give the exact date of your initiation and all your advanced 
> > > techniques, this is requested by each application form, so you must know 
> > > it by heart now. And how was the weather on these day? Did it rain? How 
> > > old was your teacher, and how many initiations did your teacher have at 
> > > the time? Curious minds want to know.
> 
> 

 
  
Could it be Shy-man Veil?

Maharishi's true blue believers talk about this imaginary 
threat from the CIA because it gives them a false sense of 
importance.  I have a feeling Peeve Feat also exaggerates 
things.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[Duveyoung]

Bhairitu,

Would you really have done the nasty deed and taken the penalty?

I would have yelled at him from the first moment I saw him to the slamming of 
his limo door.  These bastards deserve every bit of negativity one can legally 
toss at them. A pie in the face gives them victim-hood, so I say scream 
instead.  "Mike check" them every chance.  

If the Illuminati do actually start rounding us all up for the internment 
camps, the armed-and-dangerous types amongst us who see themselves being 
rounded up are sure to go down shooting as they target high-profile grubs like 
Newt.  In hard times, at least some of the monsters will get two grams of lead 
through their skulls, but I would favor a life-sentence in a 
daily-water-boarding facility.   

And the reason for such a brutal punishment is that Newt and others have 
caused, what?, at least a million fold of such misery to all of us in total.  
Just look at your IRA  and see what the housing bubble did to it.  For all the 
angst that Newt's been a direct part of the doing, I say give him an experience 
of suffocating to death once a day and hope he lives enough years to get all 
he's got coming. On a live TV streaming video would be nice.  It would get the 
word out to the elites, ya know?
 
What?  Too brutal. Edg is over the top angry again?  

10,000 children will die from drinking ditch water before you go to sleep 
tonight, and shitheels like Newt are the reason.  

Edg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this 
> > morning, I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt 
> > Gingrich. At first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot 
> > shorter than he looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I 
> > realized I missed an opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child 
> > labor laws from reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
> >
> > He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
> > so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
> > the building.
> >
> > Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to 
> > bump into them just about anywhere.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
> >
> >
> 
> I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the 
> chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and 
> Pig Newtie won't come near it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tawakkal Mastan

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Are Hindus generally more tolerant of Sufi Islam? If so,
> > is it because the Sufis are more tolerant of Hindus?
> 
> Most of indian muslims are sufis! About 2/3. And yes, the
> sufis, the saints of sufism, always stressed tolerance and 
> universality towards other faith, they converted by the
> heart and not by sword, by attending and helping the poor.
> Many sufi saints (Babas) are therefor recognized also by
> hindus.
> 
> You can read these two articles:
> http://ignca.nic.in/cd_09019.htm
> http://www.indianetzone.com/37/the_chishti_order_sufism.htm

Thanks. I do know a little something about Sufism and
have enormous respect for it.

> > I'm assuming there's generally tension between Islam and
> > Hinduism in India, but perhaps I'm wrong. What's been
> > your observation?
> 
> My observation is that they get along together well, better
> than anywhere else in the world. India really is the land of
> religious tolerance, giving refuge to religions persecuted
> in their own countries, think of Jews who settled in Kerala,
> of Parsis, (Zorastrians) who settled in Gujerat and around
> Bombay, and of course the Tibetan buddhists, who were given
> sepcial shelter by the indian government.
> 
> But there is a minority of muslims, the deobandis a movement
> that was e founded in India, representing a form of Wahhabism 
> there, which tries to counteract sufi islam in India. This is
> basically the type of islam Bin Laden follows, these are the 
> fundamentalists, and there are also, more recently also 
> fundamentalists of the hindu order, the hindutvas of the RSS.
> These people do not represent the majority, but they are 
> politically more active. As an opposition to the foramtion of
> the Deobandis, the Barelvis have formed, representing sufism

Ah. Didn't know about the Barelvis. The idea of Sufis forming
a group in *opposition to* anything makes me a little uneasy.
I guess inclusivism can never be absolute in practice, such
that it would include exclusivism; but this makes for sticky
and potentially perilous choices.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barelvi

Interesting list from this page of Barelvi beliefs about
Muhammad:

-
He is "NOOR O BASHAR" means Noor (Light) as well as Human being.
He is hazir (present in many places at the same time).
He is nazir (witnessing all that goes on in the world).
He has ilm-e-ghaib (knowledge of the unseen/unknown).
He is mukhtaar kul (having the authority to do whatever he desired).
-

These would be heresies for non-Sufi strains of Islam,
would they not?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the New York subway at Christmas

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of marekreavis
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the New York subway at Christmas

 

  

Great story.

John Carroll, a regular columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle, has a
Christmas season tradition where he encourages everyone to go to their ATM
and draw out as much cash as they think that they can afford, and then take
that out to the streets and distribute as many $20 bills to the homeless and
street beggars as they have twenties to give. No questions or conditions,
just pure cash and for someone living on the streets (or just spending their
days there) a twenty dollar bill is a big boost.

Maybe you can't do twenties, maybe the same routine with tens or fives would
be more suitable to your situation, but it's still a big chunk of kindness
for the receivers.

Your story from "Metropolitan Diaries" reminded me of that tradition, thanks
for that.

I sent this story out to my list and got feedback from one guy that he would
never give cash, as it would soon be converted into drugs or alcohol. He'd
rather give a coat, etc.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:

> What makes the Casino Royale scene work for me is the
> juxtaposition of the physical styles of Bond and the
> gentleman he's chasing; Bond is comedic in his clumsiness,
> whereas the man he's pursuing has the elegance of a Cirque
> Soleil headliner.

Now that I think of it, Bond's clumsiness was the one
false note (or set of notes) for me in that clip--not
the fact that he was clumsy per se, but that the
clumsiness seemed contrived. Which is a weird thing to
say, I suppose, given that the whole sequence is nothing
*but* contrivance. Minor quibble, at any rate.

> The escalation of the action (you use a gun, I use an
> earthmover) helps too. I agree with you about the way their
> moves are choreographed; to answer your question, the
> choreography starts with a collaboration between the art
> director, the DP, and director, and ends with a
> collaboration between the director, composer, and editor.
> IMO, editors are, in effect, the second director; some
> producers think of them as their safety net and protection
> against the artistic excesses of the director; this
> mentality has lead to some real disasters in Hollywood.
> You're correct, in an action film, in the genre I as
> comparing, the music comes after the steps, and sequences,
> in comparison to a musical where the music comes before
> the choreography.

Thanks for the rundown. (Just to make sure I was clear, I
was seeing the steps, how they were put together, *as* the
music.)

> My original point was that many espionage thrillers are
> *action* films with flat characters, and relatively thin 
> narratives; much of the time what is appealing to us is
> the choreographed *ride* rather than the story; I was
> comparing this type of action film, in the same genre,
> with the fully rounded anti-hero’s, in a le Carre or
> Graham Greene story (The Third Man)

You know what? I would never have thought to include
Bond-type films and Le Carre-type films in a single
category until you put a name to it.


> Personally I see a lot opera in this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLEs7vkN1q0&feature=related

I must be feeling contrary this morning. I think this
chase scene is the pits. Not that the car stuff isn't
skillfully done, but the editing seems clumsy--in
particular the cuts to the closeups of the drivers,
in which the actors are so clearly acting--and it's
all unrealistic in some sense I can't define; it
doesn't make me willing to suspend my disbelief. It
lacks *emotional* authenticity somehow, not just in
the acting but in the car stuff as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big thumbs up on "Midnight in Paris"

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Woody Allen's "Midnight in Paris" is indeed a very delightful and 
> imaginative film.  I've always liked his films and this is one of 
> his best.  

So glad you liked it. I agree. Whatever his shortcomings
as a person, I agree with Roger Ebert that Woody is an
American national treasure. 

He has had what almost no other filmmaker since Chaplin
has had, the total freedom to make his movies the way he
wants to make them. It shows, both in the good ones and
the less-good ones. I for one am happy he seems to be
back on the track of the good ones.

[FairfieldLife] Study shows the rich less empathetic than the poor

[Bhairitu]

To enlighten our Dickensonian Republicons here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/20/rich-people-less-empathetic-than-the-poor-study/

"The depiction of the rich and cold-hearted Ebenezer Scrooge in Charles 
Dickens classic “A Christmas Carol” is backed up with scientific 
evidence, according to researchers at the University of California at 
Berkeley."

The rest of us already knew this.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
> >
> > I'll be inland on Christmas day this year, so I won't get 
> > to celebrate it in the waves, but with the solstice arriving 
> > and the days slowly getting longer again, I can look forward 
> > to light still in the sky when I get off work and the opportunity 
> > to surf on days other than just the weekends.
> 
> Not to worry, dude. I think Santa's got ya covered:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jUrqKbOMN4
> 
> > I agree with you about the "neatness" of the video, but anytime 
> > that message is put out there I can applaud.
> 
> Me, too. Ever since seeing a recent TED talk about how much
> one smile affects brain chemistry, I've been practicing what
> I call "mindful smiling." I just try to remember to smile, 
> as much as possible. 
> 
> And it's been as magical an experience for me walking around
> town as this video is. It's taught me that even remembering
> to smile at a stranger is an act of kindness.

Rudely following up on my own followup, I find myself
still pondering this little video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU

...and the different effects it has on people. I found
it earlier today and, just as an experiment, posted it
widely on forums I participate in.

The *variance* of reactions interest me. On forums that
I would class as "Hindu-based," there was a lot of push-
back, even anger. On Buddhist forums, more "Wow. They
really got it." 

It makes me think about the two approaches' differing
views of dharma, and what constitutes it. Seems to me 
that Arjuna's commitment to the path of dharma was not
so much proved on the battlefield as it was how he
reacted the day before to the beggar he ran into on
the street.

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Love the video, Turq. Kindness and compassion rule.
> > > 
> > > I would have liked it better if it hadn't come back
> > > to the original kindness-giver at the end. While karma
> > > may, in fact, work that way, I suspect that random acts
> > > of kindness are more effective if you expect nothing
> > > in return.
> > >
> > > > I'm sure we are all experiencing different variations 
> > > > of the holiday season, but wishing all the good stuff 
> > > > to you and the whole crew of FFL.
> > > 
> > > And to you, sir. Deck your surfboard with boughs of
> > > holly, and all that. :-)
> > > 
> > > Here in the Netherlands we actually have two Christmases.
> > > The first -- Sinterklas -- is celebrated on St. Nick's
> > > ostensible birthday, earlier in December. But then they
> > > celebrate again on December 25th. This year we planned
> > > ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
> > > one this year. Last year we expected to be able to find
> > > them in stores and belatedly realized that the Dutch 
> > > just don't do turkey. 
> > > 
> > > No snow yet, but there was a little sleet yesterday, so
> > > anything is possible. Last year this time, just having
> > > moved here, we were under two feet of snow. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > > > > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > > > > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > > > > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > > > > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > > > > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > > > > nothing and accomplish everything."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > > > > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > > > > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > > > > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Big thumbs up on "Midnight in Paris"

[Bhairitu]

Woody Allen's "Midnight in Paris" is indeed a very delightful and 
imaginative film.  I've always liked his films and this is one of his 
best.  There is one extra on the disc (Allen doesn't do commentaries) 
which is a Q&A panel at Cannes and he talked a little about the use of  
the yellow palette in the film.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Newt in HyVee

[Bhairitu]

On 12/20/2011 09:07 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this morning, 
> I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt Gingrich. At 
> first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot shorter than he 
> looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I realized I missed an 
> opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child labor laws from 
> reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
>
> He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
> so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
> the building.
>
> Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to bump 
> into them just about anywhere.
>
> http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
>
>

I would have thrown a pie at him.  Of course I would never get the 
chance around here as this is about the "bluest" area of the country and 
Pig Newtie won't come near it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: On the New York subway at Christmas

[marekreavis]

Great story.

John Carroll, a regular columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle, has a 
Christmas season tradition where he encourages everyone to go to their ATM and 
draw out as much cash as they think that they can afford, and then take that 
out to the streets and distribute as many $20 bills to the homeless and street 
beggars as they have twenties to give.  No questions or conditions, just pure 
cash and for someone living on the streets (or just spending their days there) 
a twenty dollar bill is a big boost.

Maybe you can't do twenties, maybe the same routine with tens or fives would be 
more suitable to your situation, but it's still a big chunk of kindness for the 
receivers.

Your story from "Metropolitan Diaries" reminded me of that tradition, thanks 
for that.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> This is from the New York Times' weekly "Metropolitan Diary"
> feature, which publishes New York stories sent in by readers:
> 
> 
> Dear Diary: 
> 
> A few days before Christmas a year ago, I was on the F train riding uptown. 
> At West Fourth Street, a young man boarded with a boombox. He explained, 
> loudly and enthusiastically, "I'm trying to stay out of trouble tonight, so 
> I'm offering you a dance, like we do it in the Bronx." 
> 
> Only a few of us looked up. Then he plugged his iPhone into the boombox and 
> proceeded to dance his heart out. This included a few back flips, trapeze 
> moves with the handrails, and body spins on the ground with just one hand. By 
> this time all eyes were glued on him. A young boy next to me yelled out in 
> sheer delight: "Wow — that's amazing!" We all shared his sentiment. 
> 
> Many passengers gave generously when he walked by with his donation container 
> afterward. 
> 
> Just then, at the other end of the car, a homeless-looking man boarded with a 
> plea for help. He was disheveled and without any dance routine or music act 
> to offer. All he had was a wish for kindness and an outstretched hat — one 
> that remained empty among this group of recent donors. 
> 
> That was until, just before the doors were to open at the next stop, the 
> dancer went right up to the homeless-looking man, spilled out all of his 
> earnings into the outstretched hat and said, "Merry Christmas, man." 
> 
> --Christina Daigneault
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> wgm,Good video clip.  I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this 
> Youtube clip.  It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement can't 
> now.  
> 
> I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM 
> teacher training course (1973).  Then at some point in the discussion some 
> pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a 
> line of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?"  "Where?"  
> After a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , "well fuck 
> this..." he clammed up entirely right there on the subject and went back to 
> transcending meditation 101.   He never publicly revisited the subject using 
> these terms.


Hadn't heard that, thanks. I think it at least needs to be known what the 
tmorg's position is on Kundalini, etc. Doesn't mean they have to overtly teach 
it, just acknowledge it, it's basic Yoga 101.

Don't know enough about Roger Ram's book to discern if it's in there...(maybe 
it's 'cloaked' under a different name :-), like vayu (airs) which are prana, or 
something.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > nothing and accomplish everything."
> 
> Anybody here think Barry never quite got what MMY
> meant by this?
> 
> Here's a tip, Barry: You could be spending every
> waking moment actively working for the benefit of
> others and still be "doing nothing" in the context of
> MMY's saying.

Absolutely. Another aspect of "doing nothing and accomplishing everything," in 
my experience, lies in intention. I make no claims at all to being enlightened, 
but in many aspects of life these days, I only have to have an intention for 
something to happen for myself, and it does indeed happen without any further 
effort on my part. Intention is everything, it seems to me. 

> 
> > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> 
> I'd put this video in the category of "Do a whole lot
> and accomplish almost nothing"--not in terms of what
> the fictional characters are doing but in terms of the
> the effort that went into making the video in the first
> place, given the sheer mind-numbing *banality* of the
> result.
>

[FairfieldLife] On the New York subway at Christmas

[authfriend]

This is from the New York Times' weekly "Metropolitan Diary"
feature, which publishes New York stories sent in by readers:


Dear Diary: 

A few days before Christmas a year ago, I was on the F train riding uptown. At 
West Fourth Street, a young man boarded with a boombox. He explained, loudly 
and enthusiastically, "I'm trying to stay out of trouble tonight, so I'm 
offering you a dance, like we do it in the Bronx." 

Only a few of us looked up. Then he plugged his iPhone into the boombox and 
proceeded to dance his heart out. This included a few back flips, trapeze moves 
with the handrails, and body spins on the ground with just one hand. By this 
time all eyes were glued on him. A young boy next to me yelled out in sheer 
delight: "Wow — that's amazing!" We all shared his sentiment. 

Many passengers gave generously when he walked by with his donation container 
afterward. 

Just then, at the other end of the car, a homeless-looking man boarded with a 
plea for help. He was disheveled and without any dance routine or music act to 
offer. All he had was a wish for kindness and an outstretched hat — one that 
remained empty among this group of recent donors. 

That was until, just before the doors were to open at the next stop, the dancer 
went right up to the homeless-looking man, spilled out all of his earnings into 
the outstretched hat and said, "Merry Christmas, man." 

--Christina Daigneault 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> I'll be inland on Christmas day this year, so I won't get 
> to celebrate it in the waves, but with the solstice arriving 
> and the days slowly getting longer again, I can look forward 
> to light still in the sky when I get off work and the opportunity 
> to surf on days other than just the weekends.

Not to worry, dude. I think Santa's got ya covered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jUrqKbOMN4

> I agree with you about the "neatness" of the video, but anytime 
> that message is put out there I can applaud.

Me, too. Ever since seeing a recent TED talk about how much
one smile affects brain chemistry, I've been practicing what
I call "mindful smiling." I just try to remember to smile, 
as much as possible. 

And it's been as magical an experience for me walking around
town as this video is. It's taught me that even remembering
to smile at a stranger is an act of kindness.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Love the video, Turq. Kindness and compassion rule.
> > 
> > I would have liked it better if it hadn't come back
> > to the original kindness-giver at the end. While karma
> > may, in fact, work that way, I suspect that random acts
> > of kindness are more effective if you expect nothing
> > in return.
> >
> > > I'm sure we are all experiencing different variations 
> > > of the holiday season, but wishing all the good stuff 
> > > to you and the whole crew of FFL.
> > 
> > And to you, sir. Deck your surfboard with boughs of
> > holly, and all that. :-)
> > 
> > Here in the Netherlands we actually have two Christmases.
> > The first -- Sinterklas -- is celebrated on St. Nick's
> > ostensible birthday, earlier in December. But then they
> > celebrate again on December 25th. This year we planned
> > ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
> > one this year. Last year we expected to be able to find
> > them in stores and belatedly realized that the Dutch 
> > just don't do turkey. 
> > 
> > No snow yet, but there was a little sleet yesterday, so
> > anything is possible. Last year this time, just having
> > moved here, we were under two feet of snow. 
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > > > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > > > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > > > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > > > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > > > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > > > nothing and accomplish everything."
> > > > 
> > > > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > > > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > > > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > > > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> nothing and accomplish everything."

Anybody here think Barry never quite got what MMY
meant by this?

Here's a tip, Barry: You could be spending every
waking moment actively working for the benefit of
others and still be "doing nothing" in the context of
MMY's saying.

> Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU

I'd put this video in the category of "Do a whole lot
and accomplish almost nothing"--not in terms of what
the fictional characters are doing but in terms of the
the effort that went into making the video in the first
place, given the sheer mind-numbing *banality* of the
result.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[marekreavis]

I'll be inland on Christmas day this year, so I won't get to celebrate it in 
the waves, but with the solstice arriving and the days slowly getting longer 
again, I can look forward to light still in the sky when I get off work and the 
opportunity to surf on days other than just the weekends.

I agree with you about the "neatness" of the video, but anytime that message is 
put out there I can applaud.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
> >
> > Love the video, Turq. Kindness and compassion rule.
> 
> I would have liked it better if it hadn't come back
> to the original kindness-giver at the end. While karma
> may, in fact, work that way, I suspect that random acts
> of kindness are more effective if you expect nothing
> in return.
>
> > I'm sure we are all experiencing different variations 
> > of the holiday season, but wishing all the good stuff 
> > to you and the whole crew of FFL.
> 
> And to you, sir. Deck your surfboard with boughs of
> holly, and all that. :-)
> 
> Here in the Netherlands we actually have two Christmases.
> The first -- Sinterklas -- is celebrated on St. Nick's
> ostensible birthday, earlier in December. But then they
> celebrate again on December 25th. This year we planned
> ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
> one this year. Last year we expected to be able to find
> them in stores and belatedly realized that the Dutch 
> just don't do turkey. 
> 
> No snow yet, but there was a little sleet yesterday, so
> anything is possible. Last year this time, just having
> moved here, we were under two feet of snow. 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > > nothing and accomplish everything."
> > > 
> > > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis"  wrote:
>
> Love the video, Turq. Kindness and compassion rule.

I would have liked it better if it hadn't come back
to the original kindness-giver at the end. While karma
may, in fact, work that way, I suspect that random acts
of kindness are more effective if you expect nothing
in return.

> I'm sure we are all experiencing different variations 
> of the holiday season, but wishing all the good stuff 
> to you and the whole crew of FFL.

And to you, sir. Deck your surfboard with boughs of
holly, and all that. :-)

Here in the Netherlands we actually have two Christmases.
The first -- Sinterklas -- is celebrated on St. Nick's
ostensible birthday, earlier in December. But then they
celebrate again on December 25th. This year we planned
ahead and ordered a turkey ahead of time, so we'll have
one this year. Last year we expected to be able to find
them in stores and belatedly realized that the Dutch 
just don't do turkey. 

No snow yet, but there was a little sleet yesterday, so
anything is possible. Last year this time, just having
moved here, we were under two feet of snow. 


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > nothing and accomplish everything."
> > 
> > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > > Robin2: This reflection of yours prompted me to write a
> > > post to zarzar; to which he responded surprisingly graciously.
> > 
> > Indeed, I was surprised as well. He's a good guy, very
> > smart, and clearly a serious seeker, but temperamentally
> > so different from you that points of commonality in your
> > respective approaches are elusive, to say the least.
> 
> Thank you Judy, but I don't think of myself as a seeker. I may
> be an eclectic universalist.

How are you defining "seeker"? "Seeker" and "eclectic
universalist" aren't mutually exclusive as I would define
the terms. "Seeker" is nonspecific regarding one's path
(or nonpath), no?

How about "serious explorer of spirituality," would that
work better for you?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[marekreavis]

Love the video, Turq. Kindness and compassion rule.

I'm sure we are all experiencing different variations of the holiday season, 
but wishing all the good stuff to you and the whole crew of FFL.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> nothing and accomplish everything."
> 
> Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[Buck]

wgm,Good video clip.  I admire you took this bull by the horns and did this 
Youtube clip.  It's a good attempt at teaching in a way the TM movement can't 
now.  

I do very much remember Maharishi lecturing in detail about this on my TM 
teacher training course (1973).  Then at some point in the discussion some 
pointy headed intellectual skeptic got up to the microphone and started a line 
of questions, "...where exactly is this column in the spine?"  "Where?"  After 
a while of this I could see Maharishi think to himself , "well fuck this..." he 
clammed up entirely right there on the subject and went back to transcending 
meditation 101.   He never publicly revisited the subject using these terms.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > It doesn't have to. TM is a gentle enough technique, that by the time 
> > chakras are recognized by the TMer, its game over - might seem flashy but 
> > no big deal - doesn't have a disruptive effect. TMSP, different story.:-) 
> 
> I don't recall MMY ever making such a comment, even remotely...face it, MMY 
> left this out of his lexicon because it is too esoteric for the general 
> public, therefore NOBODY gets to learn about it!!
> 
> You HAVE to go else where to learn about this basic Yogic teaching and 
> phenomenon, (awakening the serpent fire is central to rising to higher 
> consciousness).
> 
> Below is the synopsis of his ONE lecture extant that we know of:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0&context=C3174395ADOEgsToPDskLnPYlY7PYlfFYFdZo8gEMh
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

seventhray1:
> The only question I have is who took
> longer to coif their hair. Newt's wife
> or John Edwards.
>
 


So, that's your main issue in the next
presidential election, Steve, the hair
coifs of Newt Gingrich's wife's and
John Edwards? Go figure.

"Republican governors and state lawmakers,
who succeeded this year in curbing union
powers, are pushing to revise their
child-labor laws to help companies such
as groceries get workers. Wisconsin will
let employers treat teenagers as adults
in pay and hours, and Maine lawmakers want
to let companies keep teens working longer
hours."

Read more:

'Gingrich Challenge to Child-Labor Law Backed in State Capitals'
Business Week, December 19, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/7pweajt 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

raunchydog:
> I missed an opportunity to ask if he got 
> his idea to abolish child labor laws from 
> reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.
>
So, you're a Dickens reader.

But, when did Newt Gingrich advocate abolishing
child labor laws? According to what I've read,
Gingrich only wants to ease the laws so that
more teenagers can get jobs at Safeway.

"Republicans and businesses that share Gingrich's 
view see easing the restrictions as part of their 
effort to cut back government regulation while 
giving teenagers a chance to learn valuable work 
habits..."

'Newt Gingrich leads push to ease child-labor laws'
San Francisco Chronicle, December 20, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/7u7pelw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> > heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> > because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> > because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> > "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> > for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> > nothing and accomplish everything."
> > 
> > Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> > accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> > even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> > (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
> 
> But, but friend turq, you don't have to believe, it's 
> science. It is physics what we do here.  

Absolutely. Step 1: moodmake. Step 2: experience a tiny
kundalini burst and convert that to muscle movement. 
Step 3: hop a few inches into the air. Step 4: plop
down again. Yup, sure looks like physics to me.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[whynotnow7]

Does Karuna (kindness) spread from you sitting in your room in the dark and 
watching movies endlessly? Yeah, you are the perfect example of why we don't 
need a Maharishi Effect. Thanks a lot.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> nothing and accomplish everything."
> 
> Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do more, accomplish more

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
> heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
> because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
> because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
> "ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
> for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
> nothing and accomplish everything."
> 
> Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
> accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
> even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
> (kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU
>

But, but friend turq, you don't have to believe, it's science.  It is physics 
what we do here.  It would be even better if more people were here doing this 
work.  If only the TM Rajas here would facilitate it better themselves by 
de-linking dome badges and seeing saints it would be even better.  It's a 
crying shame what they've done with their anti-saint stance.

Om its getting late, I got to go meditate.  I'll feed the cow and calves later. 
Chow.  
-Buck in FF

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

[maskedzebra]

I won't be posting to you again, Steve, until you overcome your resistance to 
reading that five-part post to Curtis. I don't believe you can understand what 
I am about until or unless you subject yourself to this mortification. So, 
Canada will stay silent, no matter what you say, until you find the time (with 
all your very real professional and familial responsibilities) to do justice to 
me—given the enthusiasm with which you embraced Curtis's post—by reading 
through carefully all that I say there. You don't have a right to pretend to 
understand me, Steve, if you ignore me when I am all-out, as I was in 
addressing my erstwhile friend Curtis.

And oh, by the way: the 10,000 down to 100 business? That was, are you ready 
for this, Steve: IRONY.

A famous talk-show host was asked why a well-known politician would not come 
onto his show? His answer: "Why does baloney resist the grinder?"

Steve, you are, as another FFL poster recently told me, the "friendliest" of 
persons. I only, from up here in Canada, want to put a little iron in your 
soul—so that you, more expeditiously, can tell criminal nuns to go to hell.

What was your sensation when that guy found the bloody head of his favourite 
horse under the sheets in The Godfather? Did you like that moment, Steve? Or 
would you have rather had FFC cut it?

There comes a moment when, in looking down at the earth, you just have to trust 
your parachute and JUMP.

You see, Steve: I just don't want to be found out by you. Because I keep 
getting vertigo whenever I read how close you are coming to forcing me to face 
reality.

Did you see by any chance the way Tom Brady spiked the ball in the end zone 
after he had quarter-backed sneaked for a touchdown? [This past Sunday in 
Denver]

I have never seen him do that—nor had his teammates—who were pleased.

And why did he do that? To shatter the sentimental context of the TT Cinderella 
effect.

And the integrity of the Patriots prevailed over the beautiful fairy tale.

Am I making any sense, Steve?

You like what you like; sometimes you have to take in what you don't feel you 
would like.

Now you must understand me: I am just trying to prevent you from realizing the 
truth about me—and that's why I resent your taking Vaj seriously. Sure, he's 
nailed me in every way; but still I don't entirely accept my fate here. So I 
just keep calling him names.

There will be, then, Steve, no more wisdom and hilarity from Canada until you 
read what the very redoubtable Curtis forced out of me. Once you have done 
this, I can go on the defensive again with my damned first sin: equivocation.

Don't worry, Steve: I am just a bitter man—but you must forgive me: Vaj, after 
all, has more or less undone me—and it makes me angry. Can you understand this?

Love,

Robin





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> > You see, Steve, you don't want to understand the context of those ten
> years; you don't want to have to take into yourself the context of my
> five-part post to Curtis; you only want one thing: something to
> incriminate Robin with.
> 
> Okay, stop right here.  First, let me confess, I did not read the five
> part post to Curtis.  I only read three quarters of the first post, and
> bits and pieces of the rest.   But for you to say, that I want something
> to incriminate  you with, well that is entirely inaccurate.  I like you.
> I view you as a friend.  On the other hand, I do not know you well.  I
> have had other friends that I thought I knew well deceive me.  But that
> has not hardened me.  It has only made me wiser.  An accusation has been
> made against you.  You had an initial response.  Then you revised that
> response.  First you wanted to bet Vaj $10,000 that he didn't have  a
> video reporting to show what he said it showed.  Then it seemed to
> wanted to reduce the bet to $100.00.  If I misread your intentions, I
> apologize.  But I am not in the least bit interested in seeing you
> incriminated is some way.  The standard we seem to have established
> here, at least recently, is if I would cover your back in a dark alley,
> or possibly a safari, and the answer is yes, (in both settings). 
> Although in setting two it might depend on who could run the fastest.  
> Now let me send this post before something happens to it, and I will
> continue reading.
> 
> And I ask you, Steve, in all my posts at FFL is there evidence for me
> acting in some dishonest and cowardly and deceitful way? Or do my posts
> make it unlikely that I would lie—no matter what—here at FFL?
> >
> > Think about that, Seve. Vaj knows whether he has this video of Robin
> or not. I have proposed a means whereby he can vindicate himself in this
> accusation by showing it confidentially to Curtis. If you really are
> keen on proving I am a liar, why don't you urge Vaj to show the tape to
> YOU? That would be an acceptable alternative to me. But you wou

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[obbajeeba]

According to the Parasara Hora Shastras, size does matter. 

"My lingam is bigger than yours."  : )



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > When you first started posting, I thought what the hell is this!? 
> > 
> > Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
> > create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
> > became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you. 
> > Others write about movies  (sorry, couldn't resist) and stuff, yet you 
> > delve into awareness in a comprehensible way, weave a succinct explanation 
> > with no loose threads. Very skillful Robin. 
> > 
> > Which is not to say I am in agreement with everything you address, but 
> > neither do I feel I have to be, to get the genuineness of what you post. in 
> > fact, it makes you more real as a person, the ways in which you may cite 
> > your reality in some ways very different from the way I see reality, or 
> > perhaps just areas that need some filling in over time. 
> > 
> > Nonetheless, there is time, and I always have the sense from you that you 
> > will always attempt to give more of your self than you receive in return. 
> > 
> > Maybe its a Canadian thing, eh? :-)
> 
>  Dear whynotnow:
> 
> No one that I know is above feeling some happiness in being praised. What 
> makes your overall review of my posts, though, so gratifying to me, is the 
> sense that you have really caught my own intention and, if I may say it, even 
> my own experience in writing at FFL. 
> 
> "Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
> create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
> became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you".
> 
> This may be—from my own first person ontological perspective—the most 
> accurate and perspicacious description I have ever read about what is going 
> on when I write.  And I am led on to the conclusion that your own way of 
> apprehending reality partakes of a certain grace and  elegance that affords 
> you the inner confidence that you have 'seen what is really there'. I think 
> this quite an exceptional virtue: to catch at what is most real and 
> individuated, ignoring what would be merely—inadvertently of course—a 
> derivative and conditioned response.
> 
> You see, whynotnow: you are meeting my own innocence [if I may use that term 
> since you have generously applied it to me] with your own innocence. This 
> creates some agreement in reality. It is not merely someone saying something 
> nice or flattering about someone else. For me at least you have in this post 
> received and then articulated almost perfectly the context within which I 
> express myself. And I have to admit it: I was a little floored by this. So, 
> then, whynotnow, it was not so much the fact that you came out so positively 
> in your review, it was the fact that in all that you said, you identified the 
> minute particulars of what I attempt—personally—to do when I post at FFL.
> 
> And you also recognized the sense of how much I seek to make a completion 
> when I write; that is, the way I "delve into awareness in a comprehensible 
> way, weave a succinct explanation with no loose threads". Again, whynotnow, 
> it is not the favourability or positivity of what you have said about me; no, 
> it is something much more satisfying to me: viz. the identification of 
> seemingly every element in my original ambition; I would have thought at best 
> certain persons would get the *effect* of all this; but I had not anticipated 
> someone who would anatomize my intention and my method with this kind of 
> delicate and acute sensitivity.
> 
> I won't quote the rest of your post, since it illustrates the same almost 
> perfect grasp of my intention and my experience. The "genuineness", the sense 
> of the "real": these are what constitute what is essential for me. I must 
> stop here, whynotnow: please know you have—if I may say it—*objectively* 
> understood what I am all about. And I never dreamed of someone understanding 
> me in the way that I understand myself. 
> 
> I hope that this, what I have written here, does not come off as some 
> opportunity to indulge in self-centered gratification or ego massaging, 
> because that is not why I have written back to you. I have written this 
> response out of my wonder and appreciation that someone has so intelligently 
> delineated what I am all about [at least according to my own lights].
> 
> I knew there would be others who would disagree with you, and I was not 
> disappointed in this (e.g. emptybill). But within how I have understood what 
> you have said about me, I believe emptybill has provided evidence of a 
> misunderstanding of me. But there will be no proof of his failure of 
> sensitivity versus your precision of sensitivity. So I must leave i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newt in HyVee

[obbajeeba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-5ondb23tI

http://www.youtube.com/embed/dR-URUS0WLM

Pass the Bisquits Pappy!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> As I turned to leave the cheese section at Mt. Pleasant Hy Vee this morning, 
> I came face to face with the Pillsbury Dough Boy himself, Newt Gingrich. At 
> first, I didn't recognize him. He's about my height, a lot shorter than he 
> looks on TV and very stocky.  After he shook my hand, I realized I missed an 
> opportunity to ask if he got his idea to abolish child labor laws from 
> reading Dicken's Oliver Twist.  
> 
> He shook a bunch more hands then headed into the john. I had my Flip camera 
> so I waited for him by the pies for him to exit and I filmed him as he left 
> the building. 
> 
> Iowa is crawling with politicians for the caucus. It's not surprising to bump 
> into them just about anywhere.
> 
> http://youtu.be/OrXg6ivYlWM
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Interesting though.  Sitting around recently with adept people who work 
> > with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that 
> > the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from 
> > the rawer kundalini that their pranayams give.  The SRF (Yogananda) have 
> > sweeter cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness 
> > at all with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work 
> > with.   Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom.  The 
> > TM people, are characteristically top lit while not connected much to the 
> > energy fields in their subtle bodies otherwise.  Sometimes tremendous upper 
> > registers of their upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) 
> > much at all below that.  Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied 
> > spiritually and often carry stuck flows in their energy fields.  That's the 
> > comparing experience with it. 
> > 
> 
> That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I 
> moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. It 
> also corresponds with my experience.
>

Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, Janet 
Sussman:
http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[maskedzebra]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> When you first started posting, I thought what the hell is this!? 
> 
> Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you 
> create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin 
> became known, with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you. Others 
> write about movies  (sorry, couldn't resist) and stuff, yet you delve into 
> awareness in a comprehensible way, weave a succinct explanation with no loose 
> threads. Very skillful Robin. 
> 
> Which is not to say I am in agreement with everything you address, but 
> neither do I feel I have to be, to get the genuineness of what you post. in 
> fact, it makes you more real as a person, the ways in which you may cite your 
> reality in some ways very different from the way I see reality, or perhaps 
> just areas that need some filling in over time. 
> 
> Nonetheless, there is time, and I always have the sense from you that you 
> will always attempt to give more of your self than you receive in return. 
> 
> Maybe its a Canadian thing, eh? :-)

 Dear whynotnow:

No one that I know is above feeling some happiness in being praised. What makes 
your overall review of my posts, though, so gratifying to me, is the sense that 
you have really caught my own intention and, if I may say it, even my own 
experience in writing at FFL. 

"Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you create, 
the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin became known, 
with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you".

This may be—from my own first person ontological perspective—the most accurate 
and perspicacious description I have ever read about what is going on when I 
write.  And I am led on to the conclusion that your own way of apprehending 
reality partakes of a certain grace and  elegance that affords you the inner 
confidence that you have 'seen what is really there'. I think this quite an 
exceptional virtue: to catch at what is most real and individuated, ignoring 
what would be merely—inadvertently of course—a derivative and conditioned 
response.

You see, whynotnow: you are meeting my own innocence [if I may use that term 
since you have generously applied it to me] with your own innocence. This 
creates some agreement in reality. It is not merely someone saying something 
nice or flattering about someone else. For me at least you have in this post 
received and then articulated almost perfectly the context within which I 
express myself. And I have to admit it: I was a little floored by this. So, 
then, whynotnow, it was not so much the fact that you came out so positively in 
your review, it was the fact that in all that you said, you identified the 
minute particulars of what I attempt—personally—to do when I post at FFL.

And you also recognized the sense of how much I seek to make a completion when 
I write; that is, the way I "delve into awareness in a comprehensible way, 
weave a succinct explanation with no loose threads". Again, whynotnow, it is 
not the favourability or positivity of what you have said about me; no, it is 
something much more satisfying to me: viz. the identification of seemingly 
every element in my original ambition; I would have thought at best certain 
persons would get the *effect* of all this; but I had not anticipated someone 
who would anatomize my intention and my method with this kind of delicate and 
acute sensitivity.

I won't quote the rest of your post, since it illustrates the same almost 
perfect grasp of my intention and my experience. The "genuineness", the sense 
of the "real": these are what constitute what is essential for me. I must stop 
here, whynotnow: please know you have—if I may say it—*objectively* understood 
what I am all about. And I never dreamed of someone understanding me in the way 
that I understand myself. 

I hope that this, what I have written here, does not come off as some 
opportunity to indulge in self-centered gratification or ego massaging, because 
that is not why I have written back to you. I have written this response out of 
my wonder and appreciation that someone has so intelligently delineated what I 
am all about [at least according to my own lights].

I knew there would be others who would disagree with you, and I was not 
disappointed in this (e.g. emptybill). But within how I have understood what 
you have said about me, I believe emptybill has provided evidence of a 
misunderstanding of me. But there will be no proof of his failure of 
sensitivity versus your precision of sensitivity. So I must leave it there.

With much thanks for this discerning post, and risking the brickbats of my 
critics for being narcissistic and drama queenly, I am

The Canadian Zebra unmasked   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > Judy:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Interesting though.  Sitting around recently with adept people who work with 
> and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the 
> Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the 
> rawer kundalini that their pranayams give.  The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter 
> cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all with 
> their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with.   Ammachi 
> people too have nicer working systems top to bottom.  The TM people, are 
> characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy fields in 
> their subtle bodies otherwise.  Sometimes tremendous upper registers of their 
> upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) much at all below that.  
> Often the TM'ers seem not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck 
> flows in their energy fields.  That's the comparing experience with it. 
> 

That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting when I moved 
out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, that changed. It also 
corresponds with my experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
>
> > Robin2: This reflection of yours prompted me to write a
> > post to zarzar; to which he responded surprisingly graciously.
> 
> Indeed, I was surprised as well. He's a good guy, very
> smart, and clearly a serious seeker, but temperamentally
> so different from you that points of commonality in your
> respective approaches are elusive, to say the least.

Thank you Judy, but I don't think of myself as a seeker. I may be an eclectic 
universalist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Jagit Singh's voice is very soothing..I like this one 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLFFwq-uuc&feature=related
> 
Emily, it's nice you bring him up, I'm a big fan of him, this album, sajda - 
together with Lata, is my favorate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7IUm8iXoTU

He was called King of Ghazal, a persian type of poetry related to sufism.

Many TMers probably are more aware of his Krishna Bhajans,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwgJYc6v08

He passed away 10. Oct this year. RIP

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry

[Bob Price]

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:42:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:

> In the following five scenes, which ones show the talent of
> a writer, and which show the talent of a choreographer?



authfriend 


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVax8051zZk&feature=related

This isn't what you're after, but I had an interesting
experience with this one (from Casino Royale). Normally
"action sequences" like this bore me silly, and I almost
turned it off after the first minute.

But then something grabbed me, and it took me another
30 seconds or so to figure it out: the product of the
choreography plus the editing made the sequence 
*visually musical* in a way I don't ever recall seeing
in a film (not talking about the audio track).

Presumably the choreography came first and was turned
into music by the editing, unlike with a dance composition,
where the choreography is usually done to fit the music.

But a really brilliant collaboration between the director
and the editor (I assume that's what I was seeing, anyway;
if I'm wrong, educate me, please. Cinematography too, I
guess.)


BP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus

Barry, I apologize that this post is not more about *you*; its mostly a bank
shot for Judy, I'm sure you'll agree she brought up a number of interesting 
points. 

I'll be back soon, so in the meantime:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT9EXNhV-gk&feature=related


Judy, 

What makes the Casino Royale scene work for me is the juxtaposition of
the physical styles of Bond and the gentleman he's chasing; Bond is comedic in
his clumsiness, whereas the man he's pursuing has the elegance of a Cirque
Soleil headliner. The escalation of the action (you use a gun, I use an 
earthmover)
helps too. I agree with you about the way their moves are choreographed; to
answer your question, the choreography starts with a collaboration between the
art director, the DP, and director, and ends with a collaboration between the
director, composer, and editor. IMO, editors are, in effect, the second
director; some producers think of them as their safety net and protection
against the artistic excesses of the director; this mentality has lead to some
real disasters in Hollywood. You're correct, in an action film, in the genre I
as comparing, the music comes after the steps, and sequences, in comparison to
a musical where the music comes before the choreography.

My original point was that many espionage thrillers are *action* films
with flat characters, and relatively thin narratives; much of the time what is
appealing to us is the choreographed *ride* rather than the story; I was 
comparing
this type of action film, in the same genre, with the fully rounded anti-hero’s,
in a le Carre or Graham Greene story (The Third Man), where the protagonist is
like us, and much of what the main character is seeking is communicated through
subtext, and happens in the characters internal world, and is open to
interpretation. There are good films in both types, but one is more like ride
at the fair, where the other is more like a puzzle, that can keep coming back
to us until we resolve it in some way (IMO, a bit like life).

I brought this up because our intrepid film reviewer seems to have an
allergy to musical theater, which I find a little odd, for a numbers of
reasons; first, as a martial arts practitioner, I'm surprised that he apparently
can't see the musicality, like you did, in the Casino Royale scene; and
secondly, even with work he praises, like "Pulp Fiction', he doesn't seem
to perceive the underlying operatic quality of Quentin Tarantino's stylized
violence (I guess he missed "A Clockwork Orange"). My impression is
that he uses Don Siegel and "Dirty Harry" as kind of a gold standard
to compare everything to, violence, melodrama, with a pinch of humor, and he
thinks we have the next ".Conversation". 

I believe; to harvest what's on offer in the spy genre, it's important
to understand the choreography, and it's vital to understand the difference
between a stereotype like Bond and a fully round character like Smiley.  The 
basic theme of all espionage is *betrayal*,
and to really drill down on that theme you need round characters that are human
and frail, like we are, and demonstrate an inner landscape. Greene, le Carre
and Fleming were all professional spy's; the first two gave their audiences
access to the humanity of intelligence professionals, Fleming, on the other
hand, created a comic book super hero, and as much as I love the character
Jason Bourne, he is closer to Bond, and no where near Smiley.  

For the edification of our house reviewer, and Steve, possibly this
link will help them understand what you saw right away:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxQ-2gR1DU

In case that is not enough; WTF, do they think the competing of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry

[Bob Price]

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:42:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:

> In the following five scenes, which ones show the talent of
> a writer, and which show the talent of a choreographer?



authfriend 



> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVax8051zZk&feature=related



This isn't what you're after, but I had an interesting
experience with this one (from Casino Royale). Normally
"action sequences" like this bore me silly, and I almost
turned it off after the first minute.

But then something grabbed me, and it took me another
30 seconds or so to figure it out: the product of the
choreography plus the editing made the sequence 
*visually musical* in a way I don't ever recall seeing
in a film (not talking about the audio track).

Presumably the choreography came first and was turned
into music by the editing, unlike with a dance composition,
where the choreography is usually done to fit the music.

But a really brilliant collaboration between the director
and the editor (I assume that's what I was seeing, anyway;
if I'm wrong, educate me, please. Cinematography too, I
guess.)


BP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus

Barry, I apologize that this post is not more about *you*; its mostly a bank
shot for Judy, I'm sure you'll agree she brought up a number of interesting 
points. 

I'll be back soon, so in the meantime:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT9EXNhV-gk&feature=related


Judy, 

What makes the Casino Royale scene work for me is the juxtaposition of
the physical styles of Bond and the gentleman he's chasing; Bond is comedic in
his clumsiness, whereas the man he's pursuing has the elegance of a Cirque
Soleil headliner. The escalation of the action (you use a gun, I use an 
earthmover)
helps too. I agree with you about the way their moves are choreographed; to
answer your question, the choreography starts with a collaboration between the
art director, the DP, and director, and ends with a collaboration between the
director, composer, and editor. IMO, editors are, in effect, the second
director; some producers think of them as their safety net and protection
against the artistic excesses of the director; this mentality has lead to some
real disasters in Hollywood. You're correct, in an action film, in the genre I
as comparing, the music comes after the steps, and sequences, in comparison to
a musical where the music comes before the choreography.

My original point was that many espionage thrillers are *action* films
with flat characters, and relatively thin narratives; much of the time what is
appealing to us is the choreographed *ride* rather than the story; I was 
comparing
this type of action film, in the same genre, with the fully rounded anti-hero’s,
in a le Carre or Graham Greene story (The Third Man), where the protagonist is
like us, and much of what the main character is seeking is communicated through
subtext, and happens in the characters internal world, and is open to
interpretation. There are good films in both types, but one is more like ride
at the fair, where the other is more like a puzzle, that can keep coming back
to us until we resolve it in some way (IMO, a bit like life).

I brought this up because our intrepid film reviewer seems to have an
allergy to musical theatre, which I find a little odd, for a numbers of
reasons; first, as a martial arts practitioner, I'm surprised that he apparently
can't see the musicality, like you did, in the Casino Royale scene; and
secondly, even with work he praises, like "Pulp Fiction', he doesn't seem
to perceive the underlying operatic quality of Quentin Tarantino's stylized
violence (I guess he missed "A Clockwork Orange"). My impression is
that he uses Don Siegel and "Dirty Harry" as kind of a gold standard
to compare everything to, violence, melodrama, with a pinch of humor, and he
thinks we have the next ".Conversation". 

I believe; to harvest what's on offer in the spy genre, it's important
to understand the choreography, and it's vital to understand the difference
between a stereotype like Bond and a fully round character like Smiley.  The 
basic theme of all espionage is *betrayal*,
and to really drill down on that theme you need round characters that are human
and frail, like we are, and demonstrate an inner landscape. Greene, le Carre
and Fleming were all professional spy's; the first two gave their audiences
access to the humanity of intelligence professionals, Fleming, on the other
hand, created a comic book super hero, and as much as I love the character
Jason Bourne, he is closer to Bond, and no where near Smiley.  

For the edification of our house reviewer, and Steve, possibly this
link will help them understand what you saw right away:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxQ-2gR1DU

In case that is not enough; WTF, do they think the competing of

[FairfieldLife] Do more, accomplish more

[turquoiseb]

Occasionally I poke fun at those who have invested
heavily in butt-bouncing for world peace, *not* 
because I wouldn't like to see a nicer world, but
because I don't believe in the basic premise of the 
"ME." It seems based on Maharishi's prescription
for lazy living, "Do less and accomplish more; do
nothing and accomplish everything."

Color me unconvinced that doing nothing has ever
accomplished anything. Everything starts with action,
even if it's as simple as helping someone up. Karuna
(kindness) spreads from actually *doing* something. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAYpLVyeFU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Tibetan meditation practices

[nablusoss1008]

>
> 
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Buck wrote:
> 
> > Interesting though. Sitting around recently with adept people who work with 
> > and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the comment was that the 
> > Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have coarser chakra systems from the 
> > rawer kundalini that their pranayams give. The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter 
> > cultivated systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all 
> > with their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with. 
> > Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom. The TM people, 
> > are characteristically top lit while not connected much to the energy 
> > fields in their subtle bodies otherwise. Sometimes tremendous upper 
> > registers of their upper mental fields but not lit or home (integrated) 
> > much at all below that. 


If TM'ers did asanas every day as instructed this would not be an issue. 
That is if you believe these "experts" in the first place.