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Thanks for sharing that, and I wholeheartedly enjoyed your final sentence - a relationship I love exploring and refining. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill wrote: The choice of the Tzars was iced Zubravka. However it's illegal in the USA although a defiled tasting substitute is sometimes pawned off as the real thing. The original formula apparently is still made in Eastern Europe. I don't know though if they still flavor it with six blades of bison grass for one month and then pull out five before capping. We used to drink it in the monastery after a day's work. Maybe a valid proof that humans are icons of God. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Skyy - triple filtered, and triple distilled.:-) Another good local beverage; Korbel Brut - I really got into champagne when my wife and I met - discovered tequila shots with a champagne chaser. Tried about 40 different champagnes, domestic and French. We'd climb into the 1985 tan Jaguar XJ-6, series 3 (the one redesigned by Pinanfarina), sunroof open at night, Bolles in place, U2 or Tom Petty on the stereo, she in a Giorgio minidress, and I usually wore an Italian suit, maybe a set of cuffs on a concho belt just because. Had a favorite bar called the Phoenix - We'd dance until the place closed, sometimes to a live Aztec Mexican psychedelic band, smoke machine going. Was indescribably great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Yeah, although there is the standard 3 mos silver, 1 year reposado, and 2 years anejo aging (very approximate), I didn't recognize the aging of 100% agave tequila - no experience with mescal. I bought a bargain bottle years ago of some Cuervo anejo. Tasted pretty much like gasoline, so I left it in the cupboard for ~six years, just in the bottle. Decided to try it again, and it had mellowed considerably, not fine stuff, but drinkable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. No barbs or criticism in this post, Jim, just an agreement. Don Julio 1942 is a quite accept- able tequila, and I say this as a person who has lived in Santa Fe, where some bars had 140 varieties of tequila or mescal, many of them costing more than the Don Julio, and worth it. I'm writing out of envy. You simply can't get good sippin' tequila here in the Netherlands. The Dutch -- and truth be told most of Europe -- have never developed a taste for the stuff. Therefore there is no perceived market for it, and no importers willing to import it. Sigh. Tequila and mescal are like single-malt Scotches in that they age well, and benefit from the aging. The true aficionados can blind sip a good tequila and tell you what *village* it came from, much less which region. The best I ever tasted was a single-village mescal, made from wild -- as opposed to cultivated -- agave. It was like the difference between wild ginseng and cultivated ginseng -- night and day. It cost $300 a bottle, and people who tasted it were lining up to buy it. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Oh my godthe poor man. He's crying out for help. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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I starting laughing when he started talking. :o I can see me in the audience sitting beside a couple good friends who would have the same response as I. We would have to excuse ourselves so as not to be rude. He appears young. I wonder where he will be years from now (in his beliefs, etc.) and what he will think when he looks back at this? I hope he can laugh too...or maybe he already has. Maybe he has learned to giggle like MY. I don't recall a lot from SCI, but I will always remember the flower and the giggle. ;) * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that, which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that... Actually, I have many memories of him speaking like that, especially after his week of silence periods. As Curtis has pointed out, it's a schtick, a set of developed mannerisms, not a natural speech pattern at all. ...which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. They probably think it makes him sound all inner silent or enlightened or something. I've run across this speech schtick in many New Agey orgs, not just the TMO. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818 You are correct about the breathy, whispery thing, and that Maharishi didn't speak that way. I was thinking more of the cadence and the pauses between words and sentences and the way both used their hands to punctuate things. Maharishi's had a flower in it, but otherwise it was the same thing IMO. I get the feeling from his schtick that the guy feels he has attained some level of enlightenment or awakening, but that he feels how FRAGILE and tenuous it is, so his speech reflects his attempts to hold onto it. Either that or he's just another dick trying to sound like what he thinks a holy guy sounds like. He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-)
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Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 mainstream20...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. You know, for about two seconds I wondered whether he was trying to imitate Maharishi, then I watched a few more seconds and decided, no, this is his own shtick. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? Even if that's what he was doing, no, it wouldn't be fascinating. What's fascinating is that you would cream your jeans thinking you had an opportunity to put down the people you don't like. A ridiculously bad imitation of somebody one admires is highly unlikely to inspire one to admire the imitator. What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. (In fact, MMY was a skinny little dude.) However funny other people might have found MMY, most of them would have recognized that the way he talked was...uh...the way he talked. It was natural to him. Obviously that wasn't the case with this nitwit. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him Translation: expressed their opinion of him, just as Barry is doing here. It isn't piling on when Barry does it, you see, only when those he doesn't like do it. lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. And if this were true, and if other people would have reacted negatively to MMY, that means we should have reacted the same way? Are you reading what you're writing? Because you are making zero sense. It's just one more instance of Barry desperately needing to put his own critics down, regardless of whether he has anything meaningful to say. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
are you f*ing kidding me? What utter BS. Based on the dweeb's presence, I wouldn't trust him for directions across the street. He parrots Maharishi's style, but as my wife immediately noticed, when this kid pauses, there's nothing, whereas Maharishi's pauses were full of consciousness, an *obvious* difference. You can throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I'll bet dollars to donuts Maharishi could kick this kid's ass with *both* hands tied behind his back. As for your oft repeated mantra that Marshy was a conman - sour grapes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: snip What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that, which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. Of course Maharishi didn't actually speak like that. He didn't talk like a Westerner, but he didn't insert artificial pauses after every phrase. He did pause occasionally to let something sink in, or to think how best to express something (he was pretty fluent in English, but it wasn't his native language; and he was having to translate concepts that weren't familiar to Westerners). This other dude is a native English speaker. He knew exactly what he was going to say; he didn't need to keep pausing to formulate his thoughts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-) True. Too bad it hasn't worked for you, though. It was one forum, this one, and I thank all of those who challenged me at the time - It was a big help. As for being stuck in a RUT, and continuing to try and push my buttons now, that says a hell of a lot more about you TB, and your complete lack of progress, since then. As back story, I haven't been a part of any spiritual group, though have continued to do TM. About seven years ago, I popped into CC, what I thought was full enlightenment (it isn't). I shared that info here, and it wasn't well received, which pissed me off, because I felt my integrity was being challenged. It also had the wonderful effect of putting a choice in front of me, regarding the outside world - if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. All in all a wonderful journey of spiritual integration and discovery. The only thing that hasn't changed one bit, is you, Barry. What a shame. Still the same assh*le now, as then. Oh well, enjoy...I guess. I will! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that... Actually, I have many memories of him speaking like that, especially after his week of silence periods. As Curtis has pointed out, it's a schtick, a set of developed mannerisms, not a natural speech pattern at all. ...which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. They probably think it makes him sound all inner silent or enlightened or something. I've run across this speech schtick in many New Agey orgs, not just the TMO. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818 You are correct about the breathy, whispery thing, and that Maharishi didn't speak that way. I was thinking more of the cadence and the pauses between words and sentences and the way both used their hands to punctuate things. Maharishi's had a flower in it, but otherwise it was the same thing IMO. I get the feeling from his schtick that the guy feels he has attained some level of enlightenment or awakening, but that he feels how FRAGILE and tenuous it is, so his speech reflects his attempts to hold onto it. Either that or he's just another dick trying to sound like what he thinks a holy guy sounds like. He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-)
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I wasn't able to post since I had used up my post allotment last week From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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Right - gives you time to compose. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere I wasn't able to post since I had used up my post allotment last week From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by. I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one. Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird. I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves. It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly Yum, sounds like a meal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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Well, I might try this and report back - after drinking it of course. Ha. Watch out. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
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I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence. Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy. From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence.  Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy.  I didn't get any pain from him, just the experience of watching him was painful for me and the first time I watched it was only about three sentences - it was just so EMBARRASSING. Then when more people started posting about it I made myself watch about a minute more to make sure it didn't get any better, or that he didn't suddenly burst out laughing and admit he was having everyone on. But, alas, he didn't. From: seekliberation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from aàdemagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube àFrom TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence.  Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy.  I didn't get any pain from him, just the experience of watching him was painful for me and the first time I watched it was only about three sentences - it was just so EMBARRASSING. Then when more people started posting about it I made myself watch about a minute more to make sure it didn't get any better, or that he didn't suddenly burst out laughing and admit he was having everyone on. But, alas, he didn't. From: seekliberation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. No barbs or criticism in this post, Jim, just an agreement. Don Julio 1942 is a quite accept- able tequila, and I say this as a person who has lived in Santa Fe, where some bars had 140 varieties of tequila or mescal, many of them costing more than the Don Julio, and worth it. I'm writing out of envy. You simply can't get good sippin' tequila here in the Netherlands. The Dutch -- and truth be told most of Europe -- have never developed a taste for the stuff. Therefore there is no perceived market for it, and no importers willing to import it. Sigh. Tequila and mescal are like single-malt Scotches in that they age well, and benefit from the aging. The true aficionados can blind sip a good tequila and tell you what *village* it came from, much less which region. The best I ever tasted was a single-village mescal, made from wild -- as opposed to cultivated -- agave. It was like the difference between wild ginseng and cultivated ginseng -- night and day. It cost $300 a bottle, and people who tasted it were lining up to buy it. Go figure.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. Well put, me too. I remember when Nixon resigned, my two roommates were anxious to watch the speech. We hadn't had dinner yet, and we decided to order in Chinese food. I couldn't bear to see him humiliating himself, much as I loathed him, so I volunteered to go pick up the food, figuring the speech would be almost over by the time I got back. As I walked into the restaurant, I was horrified to find that they had set up a TV set for their dinner customers to watch. It was a tiny place, so I couldn't avoid seeing most of the speech as I waited for the order. It was agonizing, just as I had feared.
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Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo He's actually participated on FFL. To find his posts, do a search on posts by 'oneradiantbeing'
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Nice story! Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. Well put, me too. I remember when Nixon resigned, my two roommates were anxious to watch the speech. We hadn't had dinner yet, and we decided to order in Chinese food. I couldn't bear to see him humiliating himself, much as I loathed him, so I volunteered to go pick up the food, figuring the speech would be almost over by the time I got back. As I walked into the restaurant, I was horrified to find that they had set up a TV set for their dinner customers to watch. It was a tiny place, so I couldn't avoid seeing most of the speech as I waited for the order. It was agonizing, just as I had feared.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at batgap.com. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless of whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy reading them. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know... This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of way (maybe like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that anyone would fall for his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother ballgame being in his presence? Anyway, upon further googling, I came across the name of Jennine Fellmer who seems to be Director of Expansion for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember Jennine as one of the die-hards of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer appears in the MUM directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she defect to Matthew's group?
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Right, I think that was during the Bronte Baxter period. I do miss her. I enjoyed David's input during that time as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo He's actually participated on FFL. To find his posts, do a search on posts by 'oneradiantbeing'
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Every so often I listen to one of his videos, or a portion of one. He sounds good, he sounds genuine. Personally I think it's neat that people hang out an enlightenment shingle. If you believe in the idea of enlightenment, as I do, then why not. I mean, I am past having any interest in following a teacher like that, but I think that many may find something useful there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at batgap.com. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless of whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy reading them. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know... This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of way (maybe like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that anyone would fall for his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother ballgame being in his presence? Anyway, upon further googling, I came across the name of Jennine Fellmer who seems to be Director of Expansion for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember Jennine as one of the die-hards of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer appears in the MUM directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she defect to Matthew's group?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. No barbs or criticism in this post, Jim, just an agreement. Don Julio 1942 is a quite accept- able tequila, and I say this as a person who has lived in Santa Fe, where some bars had 140 varieties of tequila or mescal, many of them costing more than the Don Julio, and worth it. I'm writing out of envy. You simply can't get good sippin' tequila here in the Netherlands. The Dutch -- and truth be told most of Europe -- have never developed a taste for the stuff. Therefore there is no perceived market for it, and no importers willing to import it. Sigh. Tequila and mescal are like single-malt Scotches in that they age well, and benefit from the aging. The true aficionados can blind sip a good tequila and tell you what *village* it came from, much less which region. The best I ever tasted was a single-village mescal, made from wild -- as opposed to cultivated -- agave. It was like the difference between wild ginseng and cultivated ginseng -- night and day. It cost $300 a bottle, and people who tasted it were lining up to buy it. Go figure. Tequila tasting in Lapland, some results: 1. Sierra Milenario Extra Anejo 106 pistettä (Beverage Partners Finland) 2. Sierra Antiguo Anejo 105 p. (Beverage Partners Finland) 3. Los Tres Tonos Anejo 92 (Vinoble) 4. Olmeca Reposado 89 (Pernod Ricard Finland) 5. El Jimador Anejo 86 (Wennerco) 6. Patron Anejo (Interbrands) 7. Sauza Reposado Hornitos (Edrington) 8. Patron Silver (Interbrands) 9. Jose Cuervo Reposado (Hartwa-Trade) 10. Sierra Milenario Blanco (Beverage Partners Finland) 11. Sauza Silver (Edrington) 12. Corralejo Blanco (Servaali) 13. Sierra Reposado (Beverage Partners Finland) 14. Corralejo Anejo (Servaali) 15. San Jose Silver (Wennerco) 16. Patron Reposado (Interbrands) 17. Sauza Gold (Edrington) 18. Don Angel Blanco (HeinoJuomat) 19. Sierra Silver (Beverage Partners Finland) 20. Jose Cuervo Silver (Hartwa-Trade) http://virtuaalibaari.fi/2012/09/04/f-b-s-k-lapin-tequila-tasting-sierran-juhlaa/#
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Skyy - triple filtered, and triple distilled.:-) Another good local beverage; Korbel Brut - I really got into champagne when my wife and I met - discovered tequila shots with a champagne chaser. Tried about 40 different champagnes, domestic and French. We'd climb into the 1985 tan Jaguar XJ-6, series 3 (the one redesigned by Pinanfarina), sunroof open at night, Bolles in place, U2 or Tom Petty on the stereo, she in a Giorgio minidress, and I usually wore an Italian suit, maybe a set of cuffs on a concho belt just because. Had a favorite bar called the Phoenix - We'd dance until the place closed, sometimes to a live Aztec Mexican psychedelic band, smoke machine going. Was indescribably great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
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The choice of the Tzars was iced Zubravka. However it's illegal in the USA although a defiled tasting substitute is sometimes pawned off as the real thing. The original formula apparently is still made in Eastern Europe. I don't know though if they still flavor it with six blades of bison grass for one month and then pull out five before capping. We used to drink it in the monastery after a day's work. Maybe a valid proof that humans are icons of God. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Skyy - triple filtered, and triple distilled.:-) Another good local beverage; Korbel Brut - I really got into champagne when my wife and I met - discovered tequila shots with a champagne chaser. Tried about 40 different champagnes, domestic and French. We'd climb into the 1985 tan Jaguar XJ-6, series 3 (the one redesigned by Pinanfarina), sunroof open at night, Bolles in place, U2 or Tom Petty on the stereo, she in a Giorgio minidress, and I usually wore an Italian suit, maybe a set of cuffs on a concho belt just because. Had a favorite bar called the Phoenix - We'd dance until the place closed, sometimes to a live Aztec Mexican psychedelic band, smoke machine going. Was indescribably great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
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He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? Sadly, no: http://thewholeness.com/ (At least not intentionally.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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Go to the website. He thinks he's for real. Let's see, you take a business course then you need a product to sell to make money in this disastrous economy. Remember we had someone here or on a.m.t who learned from a mystic in the Hitler Germany era. She said there were all kinds of mystics around then and Germany had a disastrous economy so it was not hard to find marks. Just watch the movie Kumare and you'll see how easy it is to build a following and make money off them. In the video he looks psychotic with those silly grins. On 01/11/2013 01:56 PM, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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I loved that. I wonder if they panned to the audience they would find, like two dogs and one cat there listening. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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Wow, he is such a bad actor!! Anyone who gets taken in by this dweeb really needs some common sense. and what's wrong with his hair? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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Ann said: when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. Bet your life on what? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. Well, he has a website. His youtube video uploaded in 2010 seems a bit comatose, leaden delivery. There is a blog on the website: http://thewholeness.com/category/matthews-blog/ And a facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/thewholeness You never know what turns people on to something. I would not be attracted to this guy, though he looks a bit more animated in still photos. That youtube video though, would seem to be a marketing mistake. It might attract little old ladies that are a bit short of a six-pack as regards to spiritual understanding. I could make a video. Boy that would have people heading for the hills. My ancient Greek sort-of namesake (Zeno of Elea) might wonder which would get to the hills first - those that ran like tortoises or those that ran like hares? (And Share, if you read this particular post which was not addressed to you - there is a paradox for you, Achilles and the Tortoise, one of the best, which seems to be based on the tortoise and the hare story in Aesop's Fables, which were written about a century or so before Zeno took on investigating the nature of motion. [from Wikipedia] In the paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise, Achilles is in a footrace with the tortoise. Achilles allows the tortoise a head start of 100 metres, for example. If we suppose that each racer starts running at some constant speed (one very fast and one very slow), then after some finite time, Achilles will have run 100 metres, bringing him to the tortoise's starting point. During this time, the tortoise has run a much shorter distance, say, 10 metres. It will then take Achilles some further time to run that distance, by which time the tortoise will have advanced farther; and then more time still to reach this third point, while the tortoise moves ahead. Thus, whenever Achilles reaches somewhere the tortoise has been, he still has farther to go. Therefore, because there are an infinite number of points Achilles must reach where the tortoise has already been, he can never overtake the tortoise.)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Ann said: when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. Bet your life on what? That he is basically some idiot who thinks he has access to some higher truths. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Xeno not of Elea, the story of Achilles and the tortoise does not seem like a nice spiritual paradox to me. It seems like one of those horrid math questions on the SAT: If 2 trains are moving at different speeds away from each other and it's 10 am but then they each go into another time zone but not the same one, what time will it be when they each get to the other's destination. Ok, ok I'm exaggerating for effect. It is way past my usual bed time. Perhaps it will make more sense to me in the morning. I will reread this tomorrow, even though it will probably still not be addressed to me (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. Well, he has a website. His youtube video uploaded in 2010 seems a bit comatose, leaden delivery. There is a blog on the website: http://thewholeness.com/category/matthews-blog/ And a facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/thewholeness You never know what turns people on to something. I would not be attracted to this guy, though he looks a bit more animated in still photos. That youtube video though, would seem to be a marketing mistake. It might attract little old ladies that are a bit short of a six-pack as regards to spiritual understanding. I could make a video. Boy that would have people heading for the hills. My ancient Greek sort-of namesake (Zeno of Elea) might wonder which would get to the hills first - those that ran like tortoises or those that ran like hares? (And Share, if you read this particular post which was not addressed to you - there is a paradox for you, Achilles and the Tortoise, one of the best, which seems to be based on the tortoise and the hare story in Aesop's Fables, which were written about a century or so before Zeno took on investigating the nature of motion. [from Wikipedia] In the paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise, Achilles is in a footrace with the tortoise. Achilles allows the tortoise a head start of 100 metres, for example. If we suppose that each racer starts running at some constant speed (one very fast and one very slow), then after some finite time, Achilles will have run 100 metres, bringing him to the tortoise's starting point. During this time, the tortoise has run a much shorter distance, say, 10 metres. It will then take Achilles some further time to run that distance, by which time the tortoise will have advanced farther; and then more time still to reach this third point, while the tortoise moves ahead. Thus, whenever Achilles reaches somewhere the tortoise has been, he still has farther to go. Therefore, because there are an infinite number of points Achilles must reach where the tortoise has already been, he can never overtake the tortoise.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Brings to mind my father in law, former WW2 marine sniper, who then became a long distance truck driver out of hometown San Francisco. One day in the '60's, A couple of Hells Angels began harassing him on the freeway, riding bikes in front of his rig, and slowing him down, just hassling him. He pulled over, grabbed his tire iron, got out of the cab, and began walking towards them, Who's first?. They took off. How long would this MSAE graduate last? :-) As we used to say, don't *peak* too soon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Ann said: when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. Bet your life on what? That he is basically some idiot who thinks he has access to some higher truths. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
