moving email address
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Am changing over to this email address... please take note of it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks, Shari ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Two very nice treeless saddles for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two very nice..barely used treeless saddles for sale. Both are stored in the house on saddle stands in a smoke free home. Both were used on my Fjord mare Dustenai when I owned her both fit her well. Can see info on them here. _http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=160374_ (http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=160374) This one includes extra pommel _http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=178409_ (http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=178409) This one inlcudes Extra seat to make a more narrow twist and the matching pure fleece bottom saddle pad. Shari ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Loss of confidence
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is anyone out there willing to share about a big loss of confidence with horses, and their path back to comfortable horse using? It's the path back that I'm most hoping to hear about... Hi, I think you know what I have gone through? To make it simple and short, I came off a young horse back Dec 17th. Broke my lower back among other places. My healing is not going well. Is almost funny how people want to ignore you or not talk to you because of it..like I will taint them or something. Sigh ~~  The Blk mare I came off of is not mean...but because I was hurt so badly,, I am deadly scared of her. Doesn't make any sense..just the way it is. Have had her boarded at a trainers up north. She is just fine,,no baggage from the accident. But I do not want her to come home. And sales for young green horses,, no matter how good the conformation, how clear the gaits are and how royal bred..are just not selling. I had a lady that wants a young forward but sane goey horse and this mare is it. She has a imported gelding that is just happy to stand there or walk. While I need the money badly from the sale of said mare,, it is not going to happen any time soon and I can't keep affording to board her. A trade would be 2nd best..if he is as laid back, well trained..is older at 13 years,, mellow non spooky,,good horse for a gimp. Then I will do the trade. I rather not have a reminder of that accident around. He sounds like one I could try to ride again with. So,, in my long winded way I understand what you are going through. I am lucky,, that I am not scared..of my miniature horses, donkey or my wee grey mare. But I am even more careful. I sold my wonderful fjord mare to an excellent home..my body could no longer handle her rolling side to side walk. If you want to try..and I know how impossible it is to get rid of this horse disease we all share. Might take awhile..but you need what I call a," Grandma horse". Gentle, kind, slow, honest soul so you can get your confidence back on. They can be hard to find but well worth the wait. Unfortunately for me.. I need a super smooth gaited/tolting horse now. No troting horse for me. You also need to go your speed..don't listen to others unless they are willing to support you. If you just want to go out and sit with that horse in pasture that is fine..maybe brush him/her the next day. When it is time for you to try riding..use a round pen and a good helmet and safety vest. You will have your brave days an not so brave days. Go slow. If you just want to sit,,just sit and then get off. There is no time table. I have sat on my grey mare 3 times now..and I have learned..my favorite saddle causes me no end of pain. But I am ok on a bareback pad if I only spend 5 minutes on her. I have a very long and painful road ahead..and I know I will never be the same as I was. So yes it is possible to get over your fears..in time..be it 6 months or 10 years. Slow and steady always works best. ;O) If you need someone to talk with.. please feel free to email me. Kind regards, Shari Ink & Brush Creations http://www.inkandbrushcreations.com/ AOL at AOL.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
beswick fjord figure for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not mine...and I wish I had the money because I so want it. Am sure someone on here would love to have it and it is a rare bone china Fjord. http://www.modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?path=Gallery&Itemid=405152 Shari Ink & Brush Creations http://www.inkandbrushcreations.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
pig eyes in fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have sadly seen some of them. When I was originally looking for a fjord, I ran across 4 fjords that all had pig eyes...tiny eyes. Not becoming at all to the Fjords. Their temperaments were not what one expects in Fjords. After a lot of looking..I had found Dustenai...even though she has found a new wonderful home now.. she, of all the many fjords I had looked at...had the conformation, head and beautiful big brown eyes that ones wants in a Fjord. She is a mare of breeding Quality. Over the years I have been around pig eyed horses of different breeds..there has to be something with the rumor because all of them had issues..and it wasn't the owners with most of them. Shari >>I've heard of the term "pig eyes" in and of itself, but never heard it applied to Fjords. Seemed to me that Fjords are known for their large dark expressive eyes. As far as inferiority complexI don't know about that. I think there might be something to impaired vision because of the reduced eye size. Ink & Brush Creations http://www.inkandbrushcreations.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
minnesota horse expo
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What wonderful pictures, looks like everyone had a good time. And that 4 wheel carriage turn out was very impressive, one of the best ones I have seen. Shari >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have a bunch of photos we took at the minnesota horse expo, nothing fancy, but some nice images of what we looked like. i am the one in the teal and orange western shirt. as i look at these i noticed that oz still looks like a fuzzy mammoth compared to everyone else. i guess we live farther north. the foal was 10 days old, fathered by heike's stallion, thor, and mom is lillyhammer. cute shot of linda syverson-kerr with her son riding behind her.smiling gudkneckts, anne and deeann with loki lee, hannah boisen on oyer with the green saddle pad, anne lottie wearing blue on lena, kristin lee braiding yaeger's mane, the lustys with marlajust a great group :) here's the URL: http://livinginoz.smugmug.com/gallery/2801912#P-1-15 laurie, and oz Ink & Brush Creations http://www.inkandbrushcreations.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Llamas and fjord
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kay I just love your story!! Gave me a big smile!! Shari SE MI with temps in the high 50sF so my morning was dedicated to pony rides. I fed at 7AM and was back in the barn, bridles and carrots in hand, at 9. This way everybody has a nice breakfast and large parts of the rest of the world can be gone to work or school before I show up on the public roads. After the usual "Pick me! Pick me!" routine, Braveheart (the rocket pony) and I got dressed and did our 5.5 miles...in his usual enthusiastic 14.3 seconds which includes occasional stops to visit and the odd pause for flower appreciation. Following that, I flipped the saddle over onto Bogie (the inner tube pony) and we floated off down Ely Road to Tindall Road at a VERY deliberate pace to do our 2.4 mile stroll around the lake. There's a llama farm on this route and always has been but the llamas have never happened to be in the front field when B and I have passed. But today, they were not only out front...they looked at Bogie as the single most exotic creature that had ever passed their gates. En masse they all rushed the fence for a closer look-see. Bogie was completely amazed by these puffy, long-necked things and was having MAJOR reservations about being closely inspected by them. So he drew himself up to his full (including shoes) height of 14 point nothing, arched his neck and did a prancing side-pass for the entire length of their fenceline. For those who don't know Bogie, let me assure you that NONE of the previously mentioned actions have ever been associated with him in the past. He never tries to pass himself off as tall, his neck is NOT the kind that lends itself to arching and "prance" would be that last word you'd expect to find on his personal list of verbs. It all came as quite a surprise to me and was wildly interesting to the llamas. Once we made it safely by the threatening herd (flock? mob? clutch?), he deflated and returned to his usual raft-floating-down-the-lazy-river mode, but with an air of smugness. After all...had he not bravely faced down and escaped a mass of evil, equatorial creatures who were probably planning to The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Utube and photos for pianting.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Am glad you guys allowed this person to use some photos for that Utube. Am sure she has learned asking permisson first goes a long way in pulbic relations. Would love to see the Farms and people put up some well done,,say 2 to 5 minute videos of Fjords doing the things Fjords love to do! On another note... I have some photos of the fjord mare I sold and plan on doing paintings of her..but I would love to hear from anyone that might have some very clear action or side standing shots of their fjords, that would not mind giving me permission to paint them. I am working on my last Icelandic picture now..and plan to do some Fjords next. So if you have pictures and are willing to give me permission to paint them please email me at.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to see some pictures of my work, check out my link below. This is something I am doing to keep myself busy as I heal. Some day I hope to own a fjord again!! Shari Ink & Brush Creations http://www.inkandbrushcreations.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Nice fjord horse figure
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is one of the nicer Fjord horse figures I have seen. So thought I would let you all know about it. http://www.modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?Itemid=364733 Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Bitless bridle has sold
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/7/2007 8:50:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have a really nice Dr Cook Bitless Bridle for sale! Beta headstalls are made of a synthetic material that combines the strength of nylon with the easy care of vinyl. Beta is particularly popular with trail and endurance riders, since the material requires no maintenance and can be subjected to virtually any conditions without being affected. Has been used but in very good condition. Can see many pictures of Dusty on the web with her wearing it. Fits a Fjord's large head...has a 18" brown band. My Fjord loved this bitless bridle but she has sold. Asking $75.00 and will pay shipping in the lower 48 states. Can email me at.. Sorry everyone..this Bitless bridle has sold. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
StarTrekk Saddle good link
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This link should work. Sorry the other did not. _http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=160374_ (http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=160374) Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Bitless Bridle for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a really nice Dr Cook Bitless Bridle for sale! Beta headstalls are made of a synthetic material that combines the strength of nylon with the easy care of vinyl. Beta is particularly popular with trail and endurance riders, since the material requires no maintenance and can be subjected to virtually any conditions without being affected. Has been used but in very good condition. Can see many pictures of Dusty on the web with her wearing it. Fits a Fjord's large head...has a 18" brown band. My Fjord loved this bitless bridle but she has sold. Asking $75.00 and will pay shipping in the lower 48 states. Can email me at.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Have other things for sale at.. _http://www.tacktrader.com/show_list.php3_ (http://www.tacktrader.com/show_list.php3) Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
StarTrekk Saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, The US Dealer for the StarTrekk Saddle is Abby, and I do not think she has a web site up yet. Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can dig up some Euro web sites though so you can see what it looks like. Because I am most likely not be riding any time soon.. I am thinking on selling mine...which as the #2 sized pommels. Dusty fit well in the #3. You can see my son riding on it on the web site and pictures I have shared of him riding her in that saddle. Scroll down to the middle of the page and there is three web sits with StarTreKK saddle info. http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/treeless.htm Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
StarTrekk Saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, The US Dealer for the StarTrekk Saddle is Abby, and I do not think she has a web site up yet. Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can dig up some Euro web sites though so you can see what it looks like. Because I am most likely not be riding any time soon.. I am thinking on selling mine...which as the #2 sized pommels. Dusty fit well in the #3. You can see my son riding on it on the web site and pictures I have shared of him riding her in that saddle. Scroll down to the middle of the page and there is three web sits with StarTreKK saddle info. http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/treeless.htm Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Driving bit for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sprenger HO Swivel 3-Slot Liverpool Stainless Steel Cheek, Aurigan Mouth â from Germany Out standing Quality bit... 6" mouth and perfect for that driving Fjord. Cost me $235.00 new... barely used...will sell for $200.00 and will pay for shipping in the lower 48 states. Pretty good deal! Have other odds in ends for sale. Covered EZ Stirrups, 2 1/2" Stirrup swivels, 21" long Skito pad and other things. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
StarTrekk saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/31/2007 6:19:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: "Tom & Jerri Rounsville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You got me to try the Star Trek and I bought one. It fits the Fjord great. I like the panel for the back. It is also very comfortable. Jerri Am glad you like the saddle Jerri!! It really is a nice one.;O) Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Dustenai
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Dusty is on her way to her new home. That was harder than expected. Dusty is going to do what Dusty loves, which is Drive. Kind'a sad...she kept looking towards Chris. Think she is one of those horses that need her person. Really think she will miss him for awhile. It is a load offbut not easy at the same time. She is one of those animals that got under ones skin in a good wayand my pastures will look naked with out her. But she will be happy and that is what is most important. So I am now, Officially Fjord less. Which strangely makes me feel naked. ;O) I hope when I am healed enough to try to ride again...there will be a fjord out there waiting for me. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Harness mini's
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/30/2007 5:57:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have a harness for driving a mini horse? I have two borrowed minis now keeping Gunnar happy for awhile and the one is excellent in the cart. Maybe it is too late to try driving, especially having seen a mini run away with cart attached and owner on the ground here yesterday. But I have an arena and could stay in there. Gunnar also was trained to cart some years ago but would be bored to tears in the arena. I can't see it is anymore dangerous than my new Corgi who stays right at my feet and has already caused me to fall onto my elderly knees!!! Jean Gayle I use the harnesses, I have but I can point you in the direction of some very nice harnesses. Sounds like those minis need to start over and have a refresher course, starting with ground driving. Camptown Harness has this wonderful "freedom Collar".. bought one for Maggie before I got hurt. Haven't been able to try it out yet..but can say it is very nicely made. _http://www.camptownharness.com/index.php?pg=Just%20for%20Minis&PHPSESSID=514b ada8d432e3230d89339d31c86259_ (http://www.camptownharness.com/index.php?pg=Just%20for%20Minis&PHPSESSID=514bada8d432e3230d89339d31c86259) If want more links.. I can send more..just ask. ;O) As for mini's driving depends on the Mini...just like their larger counter parts. I trust my Mini mare Maggie with my whole heart. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Video and a new home for my mare
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/29/2007 2:15:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello all, We've been playing with putting video up on YouTube. You can see video of BDF Obelisk playing in the pasture if you click on this link. Enjoy!Beth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkBaBrbAnc Nice Boy,,thank you for sharing. Very shortly I will no longer be a Fjord owner. This is a very, very hard decision for me. And I will miss her oh so much. A wonderful person will be my mare's new owner soon. Since I was hurt quite badly not too long ago... I have come to the conclusion Dusty needs the right new owner. Someone that will take her to shows both ridden and Driven. Something I am unable to do and will be unable to do for a very long time. To show my mare off like she needs to be and I know she misses. Will let her new owner to be, make the formal announce when all the paper work is finalized. It is for the best, no matter how painful it is. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
saddles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh boydo I know about the saddle search. 30+ saddles later. The Duett.. all I can say is, I have two horses here that hated 3 of the saddle types of Duett's I tried. Ended up with a Triple E Flex panel from El dorado saddlery, a StarTrekk comfort and Treefree. Last two are treeless. Will all the wide ones I have here...I ended up with the saddles that are made to fit the wide ones well. This is a neat web site for Treeless and part treed saddles. _http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/_ (http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/) El Dorado saddle.. you do however have to watch out for their quality control. _http://www.eldoradosaddle.com/_ (http://www.eldoradosaddle.com/) I would love to find a Light weight, very well made and super, super soft seated western saddle, short enough to fit my horse(s).if I start riding again that is. Shari In a message dated 1/24/2007 4:10:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: am starting to get frustrated about finding a saddle that will work for my 5 year old Fjord and me. Although I like to do everything from dressage to low jumps, to riding in the mountains, I am leaning towards a dressage or an endurance saddle. I have ordered a treeless from England (that felt like trying to sit on a cube) so that one is on its way back, I am eyeing the Wintec extra wide saddles (dressage or endurance), I have tried a couple of different Duett saddles and they slid all over her back I would love to know what the rest of you are riding your Fjords in. I was told that (at least in a Duett) we need a 38 cm, 17 inch seat. I am not completely opposed to a western style, aussie, other endurance types, I just need something that fits us both. Thanks for any feedback, oh, and if you reply, please let me know the brand, style as well as any saddle measurements. Thanks. Silja The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Dog carts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Carriage Works in Grahma Oregon makes really nice dog carts. http://www.pacifier.com/~carriage/cancar.html Shari Does anyone know anything about dog carts. My friend has two Siberian huskies that she want to train to drive. She does not have good balance and wanted some information on carts. I thought I would give the digest a try because of all the people that drive horses. Just thought I would try. Kathy Katherine Kramer Westcoastfjords.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
bomb proof fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main reason is, I have all mares here. And unless I can find a gelding that is truely not interested in mares at any timejust do not want the hassel or take a chances. I sometimes run my mini's with my riding ponies and would not want them hurt. Seen to many accidents with mixed heards. The mares I have on this place do not show any kind of season at all, well except my Donkey. None of them have any temperament issues or changes during that time. I used to be one of those people that would not ride or own a mare because of the "mareish" behavior I used to run into. Then a number of years ago..kept running into very nice mares, none of them every actting mareish. I will look at a gelding but he really, really has to act the gelding and show no interest in mares at all. Shari jgayle Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:34:22 -0800 This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shari, sorry to hear of your accident. Why are you looking for a mare? I have always thought the possibility for a steady horse was the gelding? Mares have their days and may not be as consistent as a gelding> Jean Gayle Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Thinking on what to do and bomb proof mare
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, After this accident on another breed other than a fjord. Have been mulling over wither or not I want to ever try to ride again. Riding has been a fever in my blood since I was born. However saying that... I was badly hurt and will not be healed until abouts summer time. I think I want to ride but it will take a very, very special Fjord mare to do it. I have a nice Fjord Mare now...and my son will have a hard Choice this week on wither we sell her. She is super sweet but her walk as you all know is side to side and very bouncy. Something my body could not handle before and now that I am damaged more, think I would be in worse pain riding her. What I will need to find is a Fjord mare that "walks in a Front to back movement" with very little bounce or side roll. Able to do a very slow jog that is super smooth. I know this is possible because I had a Fjord gelding way back when and he could do that. A Older mare with lots of Real current riding/undersaddle miles (and drvie miles would be a plus) Fjord mare with this way of going, that is steady, level headed, calm, can handle going out alone or with others, not get upset with cars , deer, dogs or other horses acting up basically I need a Grandma babysitter type Fjord. One that also has perfect manners on the ground and under saddle. I know no horse is totally bomb proof...but one can get close with breeding and training. Basically I need a saint of a Fjord mare to relearn to ride again...and help me loose my fear. Because my fear of getting this hurt again is very strong. I am putting up my Royal bred and Sweet Blk Icelandic mare up for sale now. I know she did not mean to hurt me.But there is no way I could ever ride her again. Once she is sold, I will be shopping for a older mare Fjord. I think the Fjord would be the best breed for me to be able to ride again without being afraid. Fjord needs to be in the Pacific NW. If anyone between now and the summer time knows of such a Fjord mare for sale...please keep me in mind. I am not healed enough to ride or even think about riding at this point but I figure if I get the word out now I will have a leg up so to speak. You can email me at.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for all you help in advance. Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #302
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya well That Fjord shirt was important darn it! Am re thinking things. If I can get that Ice mare sold...she is a nice mare with royal blood lines. Just not good for now an even more gimpy/broken up person. She is sooo pretty with the prized double mane. If I want to try riding again...will search for another Fjord. Dusty is pretty steady but her side to side roll at the walk hurts my back. Sure it would even hurt worse now that I am digged up even more. If I could find an older Fjord mare that was very steady, level headed, lots of real trail miles, happy going out alone and happy just going at the walk and had a forward to back motion to her walk and very smoothand a good babysitter Fjord. Then I would buy her and learn to ride again. Right now as it is...will be summer before I can think of getting on another horse. It would take a very special horse to teach me not to be scared and worried about getting hurt like this again. Shari Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:37:10 -0800 From: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: are there any more fjord sweat shirts for sale This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shari, very sorry to hear of your accident and could not help a laugh at your first priority is a Fjord shirt. Hope you are to mend well and get back on a reliable Fjord! Jean Gayle In Aberdeen, WA where Jean Ernst has sent some (lots) of cold and snow. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
are there any more fjord sweat shirts for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, after never been dumped off a horse in the 35 years of riding... a good three weeks ago my new Icelandic managed to dump me and break my lower back. (she is young and green and I am sure did not mean it) Needless to say the Perimedics had to cut my new Fjord sweat shirt off my body. So, is there any more of those nice Fjord Sweat shirts for sale? Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord raffle?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was in the hospital during the Fjord raffle, so I messed it...and am wondering who the winners are?? Would love to know! Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Treeless saddles and weight
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe some Treeless saddles have weight limits on them. But the StarTrekk was designed for any rider. Might want to check it out at... _http://www.startrekk.de/cms.php?entry=164&lid=6_ (http://www.startrekk.de/cms.php?entry=164&lid=6) _http://www.trekkingsaddles-webshop.com/default-en.htm_ (http://www.trekkingsaddles-webshop.com/default-en.htm) Abby is the only US Dealer and has a good Demo program on them.Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have one and it fits my Fjord great. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
All kinds of horse stuff for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this is OK to post this here...I honestly do not remember if we are allowed too or not? Cleaning out my tack room of stuff I do not use. Because I would like to buy some stuff I will use. Couple of pictures are attached. Toe stoppers... Brown Western size 5. never used. $50.00 EZ riders Tapedero Stirrups These leather tapedero-caged stirrups rate the highest in comfort and quality. They are 5 inches wide from side-to-side and 4 inches deep from toe- to- heel, allowing for the best possible weight distribution throughout the foot. The thick, closed-cell foam pad provides comfort for the knees and back and helps prevent overall fatigue. The new patent-pending, shock-absorbing top bar adds extra comfort with out the bounce! Can be used with 1" to 2" stirrup leathers. Used once...does have a few minor scratches. $85.00 Down Under 2-1/2" Aussie Leathers in Blk. Never used. Can be used on many different types of saddles. $50.00 Star Trekk number 4 panels for the Comfort Shorty in dark brown. Never used. $120.00 Skito Dry back pad...only used twice in Purple,can be used for treeless or treed saddles, real fleece next to horse length is 21". $180.00 Stirrup Swivel:[/B] At last you can give your knees and ankles relief from the painful stress of twisting. These are the absolute best stainless steel stirrup swivels money can buy. They can be free-floating or locked in place. size 2 1/2" never used $45.00 Myler hackamore with rings no curb strap never used. $65.00 Rubber nosed hackamore never used $20.00 Orican rain sheet size 66"...used twice slightly dirty (but will wash is someone buys) to big for Icelandic's. $90.00 Have other stuff for salebut will post as I remember. Price includes shipping within the lower 48 states. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for shipping costs outside of this area or info on the items. Shari Pictures of some of the stuff... _http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/skito.jpg_ (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/skito.jpg) _http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/ezridetaps.jpg_ (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/ezridetaps.jpg) _http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/Aussiesitrrupleathers.jpg_ (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/Bergere/Aussiesitrrupleathers.jpg) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Stuff for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toe stoppers Brown Western size 5. never used. $50.00 EZ riders Tapedero Stirrups. These leather tapedero-caged stirrups rate the highest in comfort and quality. They are 5 inches wide from side-to-side and 4 inches deep from toe- to- heel, allowing for the best possible weight distribution throughout the foot. The thick, closed-cell foam pad provides comfort for the knees and back and helps prevent overall fatigue. The new patent-pending, shock-absorbing top bar adds extra comfort with out the bounce! Can be used with 1" to 2" stirrup leathers. Used once...does have a few minor scratches. $85.00 Down Under 2-1/2" Aussie Leathers in Blk. Never used. Can be used on many different types of saddles. $50.00 Star Trekk number 4 panels for the Comfort Shorty in dark brown. Never used. $120.00 Skito Dry back pad...only used twice in Purple, real fleece next to horse length is 23". $180.00 Price includes shipping within the lower 48 states. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for shipping costs outside of this area. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Dusty and that cute looking double
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/2/2006 8:10:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Dusty gets pretty bored with parades. He prefers faster action sports and wants a job to do. SO, to entertain himself, he has discovered his own reflection in store windows and is perpetually looking for that GORGEOUS creature who appears on and off! If it is a big window, he gets all puffed up and screams - COME HITHER BEAUTIFUL! He has a pretty inflated ego! What a HAM! He kept us in stitches. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Oh my that is really cute! Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord smells
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Well, I have to say... my Fjord doesn't smell any different than my Icelandic's or miniature horses. Only one that is different is my Donkeyshe really doesn't have a smell. Also have never had another breed of horse afraid of my Fjord. I have heard that said a lot by Icelandic owners too,... That other breeds of horses are afraid of them. So far, I have not found that to be the case. Last but not least.cantering. When I first got my Fjord she would not canter. But even her really fast trot could not keep up with a galloping or Pacing Icelandic in the main very large pasture. So she has been teaching herself to canter/gallop. She however,,,prefers to trot only for her fast speed, if she can help it. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord China figure
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, If I had the money I would get this. But I remember hearing someone needed a Fjord figure for Christmas. I ran across this one very nicely made. http://www.modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?path=Gallery&Itemid=338781 Shari Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Horse illustrated and the whining
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The complaints about the horse illustrated article on the Fjord horse is really disconcerting and a real put off. Am really tired of the complaints, nit picking and whining I am seeing from some of the Fjord breeders. Do you think acting like this is going to endear anyone to the Fjord breed? Only thing I see happening is pushing away future Fjord owners. Fjords come in all shapes and sizes, there are Draft fjords, western Pleasure fjords, reining fjords, jumping fjords, dressage fjords, teaching kids to ride Fjords..you name it they do it. And the problem would be? What? Just to let you know,, I have a donkey...very smart one and I do train my horses like I would be training a Donkey. You can't force them and you have to have and use respect, with them, other wise you will not get any where in their training. And they don't kick any more than a fjord does. I would very much like to see the people that complain and whine as much as they do...to grow up. Have talked with Gayle Ware in the past,,,she has an adult quiet grace about her, when she is talking about Fjords. I think many can learn from her. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
different bits
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found with Dusty, she does well with the," Sprenger HO Swivel 3-Slot Liverpool bit". But if the choice is between bit or no bit. She likes the no bit better and really likes the Dr Cook Bitless bridle. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
break away halters
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/22/2006 10:53:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: good point. now all i have to do is find one big enough. he has a really HUGE head. i am riding him in a draft horse english bridle. Dovers Saddlery has some nice break away halters and in sizes that will fit fjords! I have the padded purple plaid one. Shari :O) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Rain sheets for Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/15/2006 11:30:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really need help with finding out what type of lightweight sheet or blanket or cooler most of you use just for drying off the fjords when wet during the inclement days that are coming.I can't seem to fit my guy no matter what I try. Any suggestions would be appreciated P.S. Have been a lurker for years and this has been full of information for me. TKS. HI, The only rain sheets that will fit my Fjord are the "Horse Hugs" which you can buy at Dover saddlery. My mare wears a 72/74" depending on the sheet. _http://www.doversaddlery.com/hug-turnout-horse-sheet-/p/X1-24322A/cn/299/_ (http://www.doversaddlery.com/hug-turnout-horse-sheet-/p/X1-24322A/cn/299/) And the Tuff Rider Stretch manager _http://www.doversaddlery.com/tuff-rider-stretch-manager-turnout-sheet/p/X1-24 448/c2p/cs/_ (http://www.doversaddlery.com/tuff-rider-stretch-manager-turnout-sheet/p/X1-24448/c2p/cs/) No other brands of sheet would fit her. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Mountain horse trail event
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/13/2006 9:18:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will keep you posted on the outcome after everything is over. I sure would encourage more of you to participate in this event. It is certainly a terrific venue to show off the Fjord disposition that we all love. Several months ago I contacted the people who run this. I don't want to compete (yet) but wanted to do the course anyway. They told me that after the competitions, the course will be open for riding the next week (or weekend?) I may drive down with Juniper and Pandora just for fun. If it goes as well as I think, we may compete next year. Pamela Pamela, That is something I would love to do with Dusty and my blk Icey mare. Just wish I had a horse trailer! My DS has not quite learned how to trot on Dusty yet but I bet he would find this fun. Let us know how you like it if you go! Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Slobber
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/7/2006 2:12:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got a horse(fjord sad to say) in for training that has the STRANGEST bad habit, at least I think it's a bad habit. She SLOBBERS all the time. Or more so when stressed it seems. She was tested for ulcers, scoped and x-rayed and all kinds of tests done. Tests found nothing physically wrong with her. Owners brought her to a very good clinic for all the tests too. Personally , I think it's like cribbing, she found out how to make slobber and it comforts her in same way. Anyone ever seen or heard of this before??? Oh, and it's not from Red Clover, I"ve seen that and that is much more watery. THIS IS THICK, plus no Red Clover at her place or mine. Patti Jo Walter Hi, Just going to throw out a thought here. Heavy slobbering just isn't normal. I had a friend who had a couple of horses with this problem. After much money spent with the Vet, she found out they had "guttural pouch infections". >From what her Vet said it is very hard to diagnose and many Vet do not know about it. But it does cause large amounts of slobbering. If the above has been ruled out Would also look at possible allergy with the horse's hay or environment. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjords in Grass Valley CA?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI all, Question... I have a young niece that came up to visit. Before she came up here she was scared of horses. That is until she got to ride on Dustenai. She keeps asking me Aunt Shari, to send her a yellow pony. I can't of course. But I would like to know if there are any Fjord breeders in the Grass Valley, CA area that might do laid back non stressful lessons on yellow ponies? Can email me at... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Treeless saddles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference is night and day. Bob Marshall is a quality safe saddle, the Hilason is a cheaply made and unsafe knock off. There are also other treeless saddles. Check out this web site. _http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/treeless.htm_ (http://www.freewebs.com/alternativehorse/treeless.htm) Shari proud owner of 2 treeless saddles, Startrekk Comfort and a Treefree. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Hi, Has anyone had experience with the bob marshall treeless saddle vs. the Hilason treeless? There is a big difference in price and I was wondering if the difference in price is because of the bob marshall name, or if there really is a difference in quality? Thank you, Onna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Betsy Lewis and Lovely Lida
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/26/2006 10:43:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: could see and hear just the top of the flag and the flapping noise it made along with thundering hoof beats. That first morning, it sounded like the whole aisle was in a fury horses kicking, screaming, running around their stallsand visitors scattering away from those stalls. Even our Paso Fino stablemate ran in circles. I looked at Lida as she lifted her head an inch and said "Ho Hum, what's the big deal?" She merely flicked her ears in the directions of the different noises. Other than that, she didn't move a foot. Besty, I loved your write up about your Lida! Was very heart warming and cheerful. Thank you!! Your mare sounds very much like my Fjord mare. Shari The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Libby and Johan
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/14/2006 8:32:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of THE HIGHLIGHTS for me was - caution - BRAG ALERT - my gray stallion, Johan, won the Aged Stallions class and went on to receive GRAND CHAMPION STALLION! OH MY, I was absolutely thrilled and a bit NUMB as they presented us with that big, beautiful ribbon! Whoohooo Gayle! Wish we could post pictures on this list, because I be you have lots of good ones. Is there a central place so everyone can share pictures? Because I for one would love a chance to look at them. ;O) Sounds like Libby was a blast. I hope to make it up there with Dustenai in a couple of years...would be fun. Shari
Herald
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/10/2006 3:36:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the Herald has not darkened my mailbox in Virginia, either. It's getting annoying when the official magazine of the organization can't be published or mailed in a timely manner. I hate sounding like a cranky person (maybe all the barn cleaning for the Virginia Fjord Fjestival is taking its toll) but the deadline for ads, etc. was JUNE 1. Hi, I got mine a couple of weeks ago. However having family in NE... I know the mail is running wonky. Shari
gaits in fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/29/2006 6:37:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the show were 2 women who claimed to know all about fjords. One was Swedish and said that she grew up riding fjords as all the riding schools have Fjords. The other woman who was also European started to explain that some Fjords were taught to tolt. I said that I thought she was mixing up Fjords and Icelandics, and she insisted no, in Europe, Fjords are taught to tolt. Anybody on this list ever hear of or see a tolting Fjord? Sarah in Jamul Hi Sarah, Very few can do it. Most people have not heard of it. (And please folks no flames or PM's telling me I must be mistaken.) But way in the past I had a purebred Registered gelding from a well known breeder,,, that would do a tolt. Goodness.. it was a dream to ride. If I could of found a Fjord with the temperament like my Dusty and tolted too.. would of bought it in a heart beat, instead of getting another Icelandic. But when folks get a gift like that...they don't sell them. Shari
Spooky Fjord and forelocks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/27/2006 5:09:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: quick. Out of 200 hours riding, I would guess 180 are in the arena, little exposure to trails. I would like to take him on trails rides, but afraid with how spooky he can be of the unexpected. I took him to a Parelli desensitizing clinic last Saturday with great success and then Tuesday took him to a trainer that has been using Parelli techniques for 10 years and he has an excellent reputation. He feels the spooky is something that can be fixed. Since he has had him, he told me that he does much better if his forelock is braided, that he feels it interferes with his vision. What do those of you feel that have Fjords with a heavy forelock. Do you think it interferes with vision and as a result they become frightened of the unexpected, more so that a Fjord without the long heavy forelock. If you agree, is there any other ways of handling this without braids, and I really don't want to cut that beautiful forelock. Thanks, Onna HI Onna, I know a few Icelandic's that have this problem for the first couple of years of training. Granted they are not a Fjord but same issue. The New Icelandic mare I have will need her very heavy forelock put up for awhile. A braid works fineno need to cut his forelock. Could also try a couple of those "cloth covered elastic scrunchie" things you can buy at walmart for putting up little girls pony tails. Sounds like you found a good trainer that knows what they are doing. Shari
driving wee ones
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/22/2006 10:26:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa Wiley: this may sound like a stupid question, but is it safer and easier to drive with the minis? I would think so. Used to see a lady driving them where I had horses a while back...cutest thing you ever saw! Maybe that would be a good starting point for the old and terrified like me! HI, Am not Lisa, but I drive one mini who I trained and in the process of training her now 4 year old daughter to drive. First off I want to say, driving is a dangerous sport all the way around. Being safe is the most important. But saying that... it is a lot of fun. Compared to a bigger horse, mini's can be easier to handle. Finding one with a nice steady temperament is most important. Maggie is very steady and shows no fear to anything. Or should say to date, she has not had any spooks or such like that. Many mini's are quite different than larger horses in that respect. The B sized mini's are more suited to driving. More able to handle hills than the smaller ones. Their cart and harness are much lighter than the bigger counter parts. My Fjord mare is trained to drive and some day I will drive her againafter a refresher courseof course. ;O) But right now driving the mini's are fine. Shari
cantering
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know not everyone can do this. But my Fjord would not/could not canter when she first got here. She would trot her heart out but not be able to keep up with the other horses when they were running and playing. After about a month she learned to gallop and then to canter. The horses get to go into the 10 acre field/woods to play and run. Watching her gallop and canter towards me is a very impressive sight to say the least!! This has helped her learn how to canter, and sure made it easier for me. Shari
Wee horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/12/2006 12:19:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But in a number of the photos I looked at, poor riding position might have been an issue too -- some of the riders were slumped over, looking down, sitting in a "chair" seat, pushing their heels up, etc. DeeAnna Some are riding a fast tolt or flying pace. Having ridden both, on some of the horses there is no way to stay in a classic position. Not kidding, those animals are that fast!! Shari
Wee horses and Icelandics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/11/2006 3:51:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I looked at the icelandic site. Wow those are big guys on small horses! What surprised me was how far back on their backs the rider sits; it looks like they are behind the last rib where horses are usually weaker. Do the Icelandic's ribs go far back on their backs? You know, I have no idea? But I do know they have more muscling than most other breeds of horses. Icelandic's have been ridden like this since they started in Iceland in the 900/1000's, so that is a few hundreds of years, that's for sure. The Icelandic riders feel it is more important to stay of the horses shoulders. Have been around Icelandic's for 15+years and only once have I seen one with a sore back...but with that one, some how, was in an accident when young and ended up with a Roached back. To me it shouldn't of been ridden in the first place. Anyway... I know my 12.3 Icelandic mare has no problems carrying me, though I try not to sit as far back as in those pictures. Goodness,, those short back horses are a royal pain to find a saddle for. Shari
Small horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/11/2006 3:51:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shari, I did not say "looks alone". I mentioned condition etc. Also, it is pretty hard to "ruffle" my feathers". :)) Jean Gayle I know Jean, but I wanted to make sure, I ruffle no feathers. Know some that think size is the only equation and wanted to show height is not the only factor when choosing a nice small horse. ;O) Shari
smaller horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/10/2006 3:05:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: smaller horses. Muscle and good conditioning is very important. But small is small and the appearance alone of a larger rider is sometimes disconcerting. Jean Hi, Now having ridden smaller horses most of my adult life, I have no problems with how I "Look" on a small horse. I ride mostly Icelandic's, ,my main one is 12.3 and the other 13.2. My Fjord is 13.3 all are stout and have no problems with 200 lbs on their back. All would let me know in a heart beat if that was too much. This is not a Fjord site, but I feel it is important to take a look at for those who worry on looks alone. _http://www.eidfaxi.is/syrpur/index.php?s_syrpa=16_ (http://www.eidfaxi.is/syrpur/index.php?s_syrpa=16) & _http://www.icelandichorse.is/_ (http://www.icelandichorse.is/) Now Jean this is not aimed at you at any way. But this is how I see it... "My Ego doesn't need a big horse". Shari :O)
SaddleChariot
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/10/2006 3:05:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://saddlechariot.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/index.html > wow, this really looks like something that would interest me. i am hestitant to learn driving, since i am alone at home so much, but this looks like it would be a great alternative. are they available in the US? laurie, who ride now is still a little walking challenged HI Laurie, Yes you can get them in the USA. "Cindy Downman, is handling the US end of Saddlechariot distribution and manufacture. " Contact the owner, he is really nice. Shari
Dr Cook
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is great to hear! My Fjord likes hers too. ;O) Shari In a message dated 6/27/2006 1:07:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He dosen't have a mean bone in his body but he was a pill to work and keep in his gate. I was sure it was the bitting and took him off the bit and put him in a rope halter and that was markedly better but still not what he was capable of. So when the comment of the Dr. Cooks BB cam up on the list I started research. Found one on ebay and this horse has been a pleasure ever since! He naturally pulls himself together with no effort from the rider, keeps his gates as long as you want, is smooth, fluid, and the rider is much improved as well. I am so excited about the changes in this horse/rider!! He even carries himself better when out in the pasture. We'll that's my fun for the week, now if they would just accept them in the show ring. Roberta Happy in MN
NAIS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/14/2006 10:22:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with a woman who was recently the Washington State Veterinarian. She said the NAIS program for horses is dead in the water. It was ill-planned and is going nowhere. Whole story. She should be a reliable source. Dave That is good to hear. Has anyone heard about how Oregon stands? Shari
Raffle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Any news on the Raffle? Is it over? Anyone won? Or? Shari
rusty bits
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] People in Icelandic make these likes of snaffles. Shari In a message dated 5/24/2006 1:22:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is nice and rusty. It is made by Mylar, about $135. I am trying to find a bit maker, to make an iron snaffle. However the bit makers don't want to put their name on a piece of rust. So, I might end up making my own. I find the Glory people unwilling to work with me. Oh, one other point, Mylar bits off the wall, are made in China. If you want a custom, they will make it for you, and it is American. Regards. Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca
bits, no bits or
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI all, Wasn't sure if I was going to say anything but here it goes. I have seen horses with holes punched through the roof of their mouths, torn tongues and sides of mouths by people using snaffles. "Any bit or equipment, can cause damage if used in the wrong way or heavy hands." One of the Arabs I had way, way back when would only go in a very high port curb. We tried everything else, and this horse would have fits. Was perfect with this bit. In fact it is hanging on my wall right now. I barely had to flick a pinkie, he was so light. Figured if that is what he liked,, why fight it. My Fjord mare I have now,, likes the H Sprenger HO solid mouth Liverpool much better over a snaffle. She works very well with what I ask of her in the solid mouth liverpool. I am light handed and she is well trained. We are not "Screwed" because we do not use a snaffle. But her favorite,, and yes, horses can tell an owner what they like or not like. Anyway.. her Favorite bridle is... a Dr Cook bitless. Yup,, that is correct. It is very gentle on her and she likes this over any kind of bit. She walks, backs, side passes,, and whole nine yards, with no problems. I even have a Bitless driving bridle. And yes, it works very well. Every horse if different, and each will favor or work better in different kinds of bits. Personally I feel, that I rather work with the horse to find out what the horse likes and works best in. Than to listen to someone that tells me, only one type of bit is better over another. And if we do not see that persons views,, that we are "Screwed". To me, that just tells me, that person has stopped learning. There you have it...MHO. Shari Who's horse all start out ground driving with a flat halter, and they listen well. > This message is from: "Karl Froelich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - any time technology is used to compensate for what should be > trained, the result is a discipline imposed onto the horse, rather > than emanating outward from the horse. It will result in resentment, and once you start fighting with the horse, instead of teaming with the horse, you're screwed. why do so many drivers feel more comfortable using a curb bit? Because driving the horse on a snaffle requires skilled and patient training." shortcuts will not pay off in the long term. Cheers, K.
Driving Borzois!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OMGthat is too neat! Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a hoot! That's me driving those Borzois! I should have a sign that says my other driving critter is a Fjord! These dogs belong to my sister in Florida. She and her husband raise Borzois and are international dog show judges. You can see more of them at http://www.sylvanborzoi.com/driving/driving.html Oh, BTW, that cart comes from Norway! Cheers! Karen
pushy yearling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/26/2006 1:25:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My yearling won't leave me alone. He is in my face. Helps muck. Practically climbs in the wheelbarrow. He gets his foot stuck and then knocks it over. He won't move out of my space even though I make it known that he is too close. My mini babies don't do this. I also had an Arab baby and she did not do this either. Is this a Fjord thing? By the way I am working on it. Lisa Wiley Lisa, No,, isn't just a fjord thing. Can be a mini thing...at least with mine,, a donkey thing,, and Icelandic thing ;O) Clinton Anderson has some of the most clear instructions I have seen for ground training. If you get RFDTVcan see him for free. Or see if you can get his DVD's at the library... or buy them of course. Would be well worth it. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #90
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/25/2006 2:56:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to try a Best Friends grazing muzzle on Boombah and would like advice as to size, Cob or Horse? I understand Gail Russell uses or has used this brand? Help. My girl hasn't seen grass in recent memory but I don't want to have to keep her contained all the time, thus the muzzle. Linda Taylor Hi, I bought a Standard horse size for my Fjord Mare. Looks like it fits correctly. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #82
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Deb, I am getting my mare used to one too. She likes to wear it as I put a hand full of grass in it when I first put it on her. But she is going to take time to get used to it. Think it said to start them on short grass first to learn. Sorry I can't help more than that. Would love to hear from others that got theirs used to this muzzle. Shari In a message dated 4/18/2006 2:27:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: am in Northwest Washington where pasture is lush, and have just started with a Best Friend grazing muzzle on my four year old gelding Henry. So far he stands around looking unhappy, and paws in frustration, and nibbles a little. He is in his pen/stall area at night - no muzzle of course - and gets a little grain w vitamins, etc, plenty of hay. So, feedback about how long it takes to get used to the grazing muzzle, do horses with muzzles do ok if in with unmuzzled horses, and does this greatly reduced pasture intake need to be nutritionally balanced somehow that I'm not thinking of - obviously the muzzle is a wonderful alternantive to being kept in, I just hope Henry gets it before he starves. Deb Logan in Bellingham, WA
Herm Sprenger bits
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, My Mare prefers the Herm Sprenger swivel liverpool HO Aurigan mouth driving bit,, even when ridden. She wears a 5 3/4" and the bit runs $225.00. The quality is outstanding. This bit is different, is solid,,has a bit of a arch and mullen to it,, works great with giving her tongue a place to go. Anyone that tells you a Fjord is small,, doesn't know fjords!! Think she was mixing them up with Icelandic's. I have both. Shari ;O) In a message dated 4/11/2006 7:17:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too am looking for bit advice.I am looking at buying a Herm Sprenger bit.Right now,we ride her in your regular egg butt snaffle.I rarely ride,but my god daughter rides and jumps her.I like driving her and use a Glory butterfly.I am looking at the KK Conrad Ultra B Ring Snaffle,the KK Ultra Eggbutt and the RS Dynamic.I have e-mailed the company three times since the first of March and tried a couple more e-mails to other Herm Sprenger connections.I have yet to get an answer to anyone.I finally went to a tack shop that I thought was good.They told me that I couldn't need a 5 3/4 bit because fjords are small.She also said that she didn't have a lot of experience bitting gaited horses.When I tried to tell her that my horse's nose is bigger than my waist and that they are not gaited,she said they are because she read it in a magazine.So much for shopping there.I would appreciate any thoughts on why I would want one of these over the other. Thanks,Ellen
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #77 13.3 hands
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI, My mare is 13.3 and that is more than plenty tall enough for me!! Shari In a message dated 4/11/2006 7:17:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as the mare that is for sale and only 13-3 Do not dismiss the smaller Fjord either - I love the 13-3 types. Of course I am not tall myself, but there is allot of good things in those smaller packages. Right now I have a little 13-3 mare in for training and she is a doll! I started her last fall in driving
Myler bits
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Claudia, I use Myler bits with my miniature horses. The ones I have are nicely made and well balanced. My Fjord likes the HO H. Sprenger Driving bit best. Have no idea why she is more happy with this bit, than any other,,,but what ever makes her happy. ;O) Shari In a message dated 4/6/2006 6:47:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do any of you use Myler bits? I would really like to hear fom anyone who does.they sound like a great idea , but I don't know anyone who has experience with them. I actually drive more than ride, although we do both. claudia
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #71
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am very glad I am not the only one up in arms about this! ! ! ! Shari In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:17:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all of you who are not in Idaho - Montana and Wyoming - you should be aware that the public land that Serrie is talking about is yours too. It is a short sighted way to raise money for the governement. This is land that can never ever be replaced and although you may not be in Idaho now it is part of your heritage as an American. Sales of Timber, Grazing and mineral rights, wildlife habitat and watershed protection on public land do benefit even those of you who do not live next to it - these are renewable resources and revenue supports some government operationsgo. You can use the land for recreation if you are ever here. When it leaves public protection, it will be developd and any future benefit to you or your children will be gone.
Unfriendly fjord people
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Hope, Not all are unfriendly. I own only 1 fjord. Sorry you met such a person. I would never have a person with a temperament like that,, teach me or my horses anything. Nothing good would come of it. What you are seeing in general,,,sadly happens with most breeds. The Icelandic's are just the same. There are "some" breeders and so called trainers that really should not be doing either. If you look around and ask enough folks,, sooner or later you will find the trainers with the kind heart that really know what they are doing. They will not cause you to cry or tear you down. They will just quietly show you what needs to be done, while making you feel on top of the world!. ;O) Keep heart,,, Shari In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:17:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't know what all of you think, but in general I find Fjord people pretty unfriendly. I'm not saying everybody, but alot. Down the road lives a lady w. Fjords, gives lessons, trains, shows. I asked for some driving lessons, this gal does nothing but rip up the equipment I've got, my lack of knowledge, etc until I was in tears. I felt she didn't want to help out a mildly disabled driver who has a horse she trained herself and is directly related to the horses she breeds. Why I don't know. It was one of the more freakish horse people experiences I've had. Then I go and volunteer at the Hub Club, for an eventing show. Same thing, thanks for your work and drop dead. We think you really belong in a club more like Dairyland. So I went to the Fingerlakes show. No one hardly even says hello. I didn't know anyone but tried to be friendly. I donated money for a class. My husband and I go up to Winona. We leave without meeting a single new person. I'm not perfect, but this seems like an odd bunch. The feuding on the list. The lack of sharing on the list meaningfull information with new people. We finally tacked up ourselves out of a book, cross our fingers and hope it holds. We've never driven with a chest harness before. Sorry but I grew up driving mules with a working type collar. I'm willing to learn, but just didn't know about the different styles.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #65
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always find Fjords impressive when they trot. I can't ride it,, but is pretty to look at. Also,, never talk with your Fjord down wind while brushing all that fur out. Ended up with a mouth full of hair more than once.. Shari In a message dated 3/28/2006 3:14:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other afternoon, I went out to feed horses. Since our barn is to the east of our house, the sun was behind my back. This particular day, my mare Sissel was standing in the golden, late afternoon sunlight, as I approached with supper. As she turned to trot back to the barn (and her feeding place), the sun lighted up a HUGE cloud of hairs that were billowing up in the air as Sissel trotted away. They glistened like gold as they gently tumbled to the ground. I wish I had had my camera -- it was a perfect image of my lovely, but very hairy horse! DeeAnna
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #57
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI Eileen, If your mare is super wide,, they will not work for her. Call the Bob Marshall folks up and talk with them. I did that and we both decided it would not a be a good fit for one of my mares. Shari I know of other treeless models that would most likely fit super wide horses better,, email me if interested. ;O) >> I wish I could search the old digests, 'cause I think there were some >>postings on this...Anyway, I'm researching the Bob Marshall sports >>saddles. My mare is supersized wide, and I'm thinking that I'll need >>the endurance pommell. Also, I'm interested in any differences between >>the 'authentic' saddles and the ones produced by Circle Y (I'm sure >>that there's an interesting story there). Any Bob Marhshall owners out >>there? Eileen in sunny eastern WA, where the snow flurries are coming from the horses.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #38
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred, I have to disagree. A male llama would not make a good guard for sheep or Goats. Both these animals have a smell close to the female Llama,, and he will try to breed them. He will badly hurt or kill them if he can't get what he wants. I know folks that learned the hard way. Only use Gelded llama's that have been gelded at least 8 months... This I know from personal experience. Female llama's are also good guarding animals. However,,, saying that. Not all Llamas will guard. It is best to get one from a Farm that raises guard Llamas. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #38
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rita, Some one I know rides in and sells Duett saddles. If you would like her contact info please let me know. I know they work really well with the really wide horses. Have another friend that has one and loves it. Shari Back to the saddle question...has anyone used/ had any luck wit the Henri D. Rivel wide saddle? And does anyone use/heard of Duett Saddlery? Thanks, Rita Northern VT.
Evaluations
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this can be a good thing for those who can't or don't travel well. I know my mare is older,, but I would like her to go through the Evaluations again. However, I don't travel distance well anymore and would have to do such by Video. Having the NFHA set up a "how to" video would help a lot of people do the Video's Evaluations correctly. Shari In a message dated 2/3/2006 12:24:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "5 - If the majority of Fjord owners are shut out of the Evaluations by distance, time & money, then there will be only a small group of evaluated horses. The result of this will be a small, "elite" group of evaluated horses. -- This could be very dangerous in regards to the gene pool . I
Saddles for short backed fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Laura,
I have the same problem with my Icelandic mare.
What I have ended up doing is riding in Hybrid saddles. Much more to them than
an English Saddle but shorter than a Western.
I do not like pure English saddles at all.
The most short western saddle I could find is one made by Big Horn,,is a Flexi
tree western saddle. It is 23" long.
El Dorado makes a Endurance Flex panel saddle called the "Triple E". The panels
are 22.5" long. However once you over lap the should up to 3" the saddle is
more than short enough. I have one of these and they are nice.
Another option is Treeless saddles. The Star Trekk comfort Shorty saddle is
only 20 1/2" long. It has more too it than most Treeless saddles and has a
clearance over the spin.
I did a long Demo with it. Both my horse and I liked it so much I have ordered
one. This one is the best of the treeless saddles I have tried. They are well
made and not too spendy. They also make a western Model.
If you are interested in checking it out,, let me know.
I have a few more ideas for you,, just let me know.
Shari :O)
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Subject: saddle
This message is from: "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I tried to get on this list a few months ago, and finally gave up. Suddenly,
I began receiving lots of fun Fjord e-mails. I'm so glad it finally worked!
I have a 6 year old gelding that we drive and ride. I've had him since he was
a yearling, and love him to pieces. He has truly stolen my heart. My husband
refers to him as our big golden retriever. He'd rather be with us than the
other horses.
I have a problem that I have been trying to solve for about 6 months. Last
summer I noticed the tell tale signs of an ill fitting saddle on my boy,
(white hairs a ways back from his shoulders) and have been trying to find a
saddle that fits both him and me. This is no easy task, as he has about a 22"
back to work with, he's obviously very wide and mutton withered, and I need a
western seat size 14 or 14 1/2". I have found an english saddle that would
work (the Soltice, by the Arabian Saddle Co.) but I'd really like a western
saddle. I do lots of trail riding, and would like to show him at our local
WSCA shows for fun, as well. Does anyone have any ideas for me? I have
learned so much about saddle fit in the last 6 months. My poor guy. He
didn't exhibit any signs of pain or discomfort that other horses might with an
ill fitting saddle. He has a very high tolerance for pain. ("What spurs? I
don't feel anything.") At this point I have no saddle for him, and summer is
fast approaching. I hate to have to have a saddle custom made, ($$$) but I
am getting concerned that I may not have any choice.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Laura
Grazing muzzles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Pretty soon the Grass will be growing in this area. I will have so much grass it isn't funny. I will need to find a really well made Grazing Muzzle for my Fjord mare. Does anyone one know where I can buy one? Thanks, Shari
Harness
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/28/2005 8:32:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: "Larry Goss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I need either a used single driving harness or a new beta-thane driving harness. Does anyone have an opinion (that is a funny statement on this chat site) on where to get it? for a 14 hand, 1150 lb fjord. Larry Goss Hi, I know a number of people that have gotten harness from these folks and they come highly recommended. _http://thecarriagehouse.com/products.html_ (http://thecarriagehouse.com/products.html) I have a Zilco harness that I have had for years for the miniature horse I drive and it is holding up very well. But the next harness I buy will be from the folks above. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #281
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sadly Dustenai is for sale. Ended up with a problem with a disk in my back and it hurts to ride her. So no fault of her own. She is too good of a mare to just sit in my pasture. Dustenai is a wonderful been there done that Fjord mare. She is gorgeous and has the most beautiful head you'll ever find. She is broke to ride as well as drive. She has been shown at the International Fjord show and has won large halter classes as well as performance. She was featured on the Nordicfest poster a couple of years ago. She has been driven in parades and has been ridden in the mountains, etc. She has a fast walk and a snappy trot. . She has excellent manners, loves people and going places. UTD on all vaccine, worming. Hooves are trimmed Every 8 weeks and teeth have just been done. If anyone is interested please email me at... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) or 503-556-4239.. please leave message and I will give you a call back.
Driving carts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/3/2005 5:17:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello,this is Merrilee from WI. I am trying to get some ideas about what to buy for my mare to pull. I've been looking at the easy entry carts but I am just curious what works best for the Fjords. I am just learning to drive and just would like some pointers from more experienced folks (with fjords). Do they usually require the horse size? My mare is 14.3 and slightly drafty. Any advice would be appricated...thanks!! Having had Easy Entry carts...if your health is perfect and don't mind getting jarred around, they are a great knock around cart. But if you are like me and your body can't handle that kind of ride you could look into the Country Road Carts... they are so comfy it is like riding in a Rolls!! _http://www.countrycarriagesusa.com/roadcarts.htm_ (http://www.countrycarriagesusa.com/roadcarts.htm) Other good carts are.. _http://home.earthlink.net/~carriagebarnws/PACIFICTRAINING.htm_ (http://home.earthlink.net/~carriagebarnws/PACIFICTRAINING.htm) _http://www.eazyryder.com/_ (http://www.eazyryder.com/) _http://www.bennington.co.uk/carriages/newcomer.htm_ (http://www.bennington.co.uk/carriages/newcomer.htm) You can also check out.. _http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/Links.htm_ (http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/Links.htm) Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #242
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/31/2005 9:39:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: love my Fjordies trots. They have about as smooth a fast trot as you can get. It is a breed trait to be perpetuated by conscientious breeders. However, if you like a quick, ground-covering walk like my Morgan/QH cross, Pepper, or my friends Arab, and would be disappointed to get anything else, you may have to do a bit of shopping to find it in the Fjord. They can be pokey little ponies. =) Peppers trot is positively jarring, so it is a trade-off. Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL Oh Goodness,, you should come ride my Fjord. She has a very fast extended walk, like nothing else I have ever ridden. Have owned, ridden and trained a lot of different breeds in the past. Her trot is really fast too. But sadly no were near as smooth as that Fjord gelding I had all those years ago. Lets just say if I want to ride trot, I am going to learn to post again. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #234
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/17/2005 7:27:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of orange vests, there's a place near me that sells them for horses Has anyone used these (or bells) on the trails at this time of year? If I get them, what size do I get? Any other thoughts for fall riding in the state forest? Where would I get bells. How best should they be worn etc??? We've got lots of hunters around here but gorgeous trails that I don't want to waste. Vanessa Hi Vanessa, You can get bells at any craft store and put them on breast collars (I find they jingle best there), etc.. with shoe strings. Here are some links to Orange stuff for horses. _http://www.protectavest.com/_ (http://www.protectavest.com/) _http://www.stevenshobbyfarmhttp://www.steven_ (http://www.stevenshobbyfarm.com/hunting.html) _http://www.adamspetsupplieshttp://www.adamspetsupplies_ (http://www.adamspetsupplies.com/store/index.php/cat_439) Shari PS.. who also just loves hearing all the stories about the wonderful rides and drives folks are having!!!
Governess cart
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I remember awhile back someone was looking for a Governess cart. There is a really nice one for sale here. _http://thecarriagehouse.com/PonyGoverness.htm_ (http://thecarriagehouse.com/PonyGoverness.htm) Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #219
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/28/2005 10:09:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Do any of you know of a saddle/maker/rep/seller who would be willing to demo saddle fitting for a meeting in mid Washington State? Do any of you have favorite brands of saddles which fit your Fjords? Sylvia Riddle, Spokane WA HI Sylvia, The American Flex saddle seems to be working well for my Fjord mare. I know it is a spendy saddle, but I think so far, well worth it. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #209
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:45:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That all depends on how much work I have in front of yours. This time of year is busy with new foal registrations coming it & I have the Fallbrook Evaluation to put together also. I hope to get to yours sometime next week though. Mike Thank you Mike! Shari
Registry papers
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI All, How long does it take to get Registry papers when you buy a new Fjord horse? Guess, I am just itching to get Dustenai's papers, and have the owner info changed over on the Pedigree web site area. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #208
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/14/2005 8:34:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Aussie stuffed panel is so cushed, really don't need a thick pad at all, for Mack's back. One of the many things I like about the Aussie saddles. ;-) So - what I'm wondering about - is, will a synthetic pad like this cause a problem physically for him? Like soreing because it can't "breath" as cotton/wool can? The ad *says* can be used by its self - but have any riders done this, and what has been your unbiased observation ? Thanks much! Sher and Mack in CO HI Sher, I do not know about this pad, but I have used a neoprene-like (synthetic)Tack Tack pad for years with no problems at all. All the Icelandic's I have own have had no withers, and super round bodies, and I need all the help I can get keep a saddle on them. That Aussie pad looks like the same Material as a "Dixie Midnight" saddle pad. And if it is, I know of a lot of Icelandic riders that use the Dixie Midnight pads and love them. Just glad my Fjord mare has good withers so I do not have to worry about her!! Shari
Bennington Fun Bug 4 wheel carriage
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, Does anyone own or have driven in a Bennington Fun Bug? I like the looks of it, but is it really stable? Because I will be shopping for a stable, with excellent suspension, comfy off road cart for my Fjord mare by next spring. _http://www.bennington.co.uk/carriages/Specs/fun-bug.htm_ (http://www.bennington.co.uk/carriages/Specs/fun-bug.htm) Shari
Miniature horses & Ulcers
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/25/2005 4:14:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When they scoped him the next morning, they found ulcers. I have the printout of the "picture", and poor guy, it looks pretty nasty. He is a 15 year old gelding and he is just a pet with our other horses. I guess nobody knows what causes ulcers exactly, but stress is one factor they think. I don't know what stress he would have here, as I feed all the horses separately, and then let them all out together during the day. At night the minis are locked up. He is on Ranitidine, which is generic for Zantac and I have to give him two tablets three times daily. Anybody have any experience with ulcers in their horses? Rondi. So. Calif. Rondi, For some reason Ulcers in miniature horses are not all that unusual. Know many people that have miniature horses with that problem. Have you checked out this forum for miniature horses.. great place. _http://minihorse.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx_ (http://minihorse.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx) Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #190
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/23/2005 9:56:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: traditional Norwegian harness. They were really appreciated and shows there is much to be considered. Here is a new link that shows the actual harness in action as I know some folks wanted pictures. It is just a very short teaser but nice. It really helped me see how it moves with the shoulders and stays off the top of the neck and does not crush the mane. If you're interested you can view it at: http://www.olafnyby.net/Harness.htm then click on Norwegian Harness link in the paragraph for a short clip. Clip is best viewed with broadband but there are regular photos, too. Sorry the clip is not a Fjord but there is a photo of a Fjord modeling the harness, too. I'm inquiring to see if Olaf Nyby will make all the straps in a synthetic, too. I'd never get any driving done if I had to clean that much leather. Hi, Thank you for posting this... I love this type of harness.. and would be interested in getting one next spring. Would also be very interested in a high Quality synthetic one too. Have a Traditional Leather Collar & Hames work Harness, while it is nicely made it is about 50lbs of harness. I can no longer get in on my horses myself. So something sturdy, but much lighter would be wonderful!. Please keep me in mind when you talk to Olaf. Regards, Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #188
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/21/2005 5:09:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a little aside, and Fjord related, I have been told that the Blue Earth and Libby shows are getting so big that the driving classes are becoming hazardous due to lack of facilities/space to allow for safe classes, and safe hitching and warm-up areas. Just a caution..the Fjord shows could be headed for a disastrous accident that could maim or kill some of US (exhibitors and/or spectators)...all because the "business" grew a bit too fast and caution was not exercised in time. Gail Hi Gail, I have never been to a Blue Earth show. But I do drive cart. You are right, Safety can't be stressed enough. At some point in the future I was hoping to go. I hope by that time, they get things in order/organized so it will be a safe place for all. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #188
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/21/2005 5:09:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: to prevent thrombosis from all the inactivity. In the end, we elected to leave "against medical advice." The hotel concierge found me a medical equipment store down the street. By this time I had managed to master the entire subway and tram system for the city of Viennaso purchased crutches near the hotel and shuttled them off to the hospital so we could make our getaway. I then went back to Air France office near the opera house and spent 3 hours changing the air reservations and trying to get wheel chairs promised at the airport. (Jim had also hurt his hand and a shoulder, and could barely walk with the crutches.) Oh my *** Gail,, I am just so glad you and your husband are alright.. well at least for the most part. I hope your hubby is doing better now. to you both for a speedy recovery. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #185
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/17/2005 10:11:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I currently have a mare that has not shed out this year. I am still looking for answers. The Vet though maybe thyroid, but she hasn't responded to treatment. I don't know what I will do next. It will good to hear how you make out with you horse. Alison Bakken in rainy Alberta Have your Vet check for Cushings. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #183
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/14/2005 4:24:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to adapt a norwegian harness for use with an english single-horse vehicle, you will have to add traces and shaft loops to essentially convert the harness into an english style harness. It can be done, but the conversion is awkward and eliminates the advantages of the using the norwegian harnessing system. The other option is to modify the shafts of an english vehicle so you can actually use the link (called the "ore" in Norwegian) to properly connect the horse to the vehicle. The ore pins onto the shafts about where the shaft loops on an english harness would normally be. The shafts also need to be sturdy enough to transmit the pull of the horse to the vehicle. I'm not saying it can't be done ... it's just that there's more to the problem than just using a different type of collar. DeeAnna DeeAnna, I would love to see pictures of it. Next year I plan to get a custom cart made for my mare. If I can or do get a Norwegian Harness I can make sure the cart is made for it. Shari
Re:Traditional Norwegian Harness
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/13/2005 2:17:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been investigating the traditional Norwegian Harness such as Olaf Nyby sells. It looks wonderful on Fjords and is purported to be comfortable and functional for them also. I was wondering if anyone on this list uses this type of harness and if so how do you like it? Any problems or concerns would also be appreciated? Also to what type of carriage or conveyance (i.e. marathon shafts, Norwegian shafts, traditional shafts, forecart, etc.) is it attached? I understand that they are very easy to move between different size horses and quick to hitch. Plus I hate having my fjordies manes get messed up with regular harness. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Milli Ann Magnolia, TX Milli Ann, I would love to see pictures of a traditional Norwegian harness, as I would also be interested in it. Is there any web site that I can see one? Shari
Re:Blue eyes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/13/2005 2:17:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trained as a ophthalmic technologist ( human ) I do know that blue eyes are subject to more light sensitivity than brown or green. Add contact lenses to that and it doubles your need for sunglasses. I know that it may not correlate to horses but it would make sense that blue eyed horses are more sensitive to light. From my experience a blue eye is a blue eye weather it be equine or human. Roberta Roberta, I am glad you brought this up. I have light blue eyes and I will tell you first hand, I can't deal with Sun light as well as people with brown eyes. I have to wear some sort of hat or sun glasses as it can get painful. I have seen Walleye/Blue eye horses with the same problem. Granted not scientific, but I think it can be the same in any animal. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #179
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] First ride at Home! Well, I had my first ride on Dustenai today. Went out and brushed her, then my son brought out the saddle. Since I decided to ride in the round pen, just rode in her halter and lead, making the lead like reins of course. We just puttered around in the round pen, and quite enjoyed it. Just walked, backed, a few other little things, she did every thing I asked. She was patient as I did some stretches. While doing that, I found out where her itchy spots are from the saddle, Dustenai really enjoyed that. Quite rewarding when she sticks her neck out and does the funny face! We are going to take it slow so we can both get used to each other, well and I can try to get back into shape. ;O) Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #178
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/10/2005 8:37:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to my first trail trials in a couple weeks, and it sounds like great fun. All the obstacles seem pretty logical except the "drag." Can anyone tell me exactly how this is done? / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson HI, I do not know if this is the same thing or not. But when I did drag, long time ago, we would drag a little log or such on the end of the rope, when riding on our horses. This would prove our horse would not spook when working. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #177
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/9/2005 1:55:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sport fjords HE IS NOT UNEVEN TEMPERED NOR DOES HE HAVE BAD BREEDING!! OH MY GOD COULD IT BE.Again just another show of true ignorance by someone on this list with rude words for our breed and breeders and people they don't even know. My gelding is out of an EXCELLENT, VERY BIG imported Mare and sired by an EXCELLENT imported stallion (Felix) who is known both here in North America and in Norway for having exceptional offspring and who is quite a big guy himself. My guy is not of either of their statures and that doesn't make him any less a fjord...just because he doesn't have legs that look like tree stumps, or hooves that look like dinner plates and a body that resembles a Sherman Tank does not mean he is a poorly bred or an uneven tempered fjordLast time I checked with the billions of people on our planet very few are exactly alike (with the exception of identical twins). Hi, Why would you shout? When I was Fjord horse shopping. When I said," thin legs", the Fjord I was looking at, had legs as thin as any TB on a big body. Sorry but that does not look right, conformation wise he was going to have health issues. Also did not say that "all" more refined Fjords where a bad thing. Though in my Search, I saw a few of the taller more thin ones with very questionable temperaments. Not at all Fjord like, very hot and hard to handle. Can only state what I have personally seen. Knowing what the Fjord gelding I had all those years ago was like, how easy he was to train. Well, lets just say I found it disturbing to see Fjords with temperaments like that. But I kept looking anyway. Saw a few with Pig eyes, not at all straight legs (over the knee badly) and conformation not so good, but they had good temperaments. Saw ones that would kick at you if you tried to touch them in certain areas, though I think most of that, was training or lack of it. I wanted another Fjord because I clearly remembered what that gelding was like. And in this day and age, the way my body is, that is just what I needed. I like the more heavier and mid build Fjords, and I am happy that I am able to find what I was looking for. I know what I was searching for and needed, in Temperament, training and conformation and yes, I was ver picky, as I was searching for a life long friend. Have been around horses a long time, a good conformation, is a good conformation no matter the type of build. I think evaluations are a good thing, it gives people an idea or a starting point. If one wants to change what is going on, go to these things, with the Fjord that you think is the perfect type. Show them there are other types out there, explain why it is important to keep all types in person. You will find many people will listen. I got back into Fjords mainly because of their tractable easy going temperament. And I hope in the future there will always be those types of Fjords out there. Shari ;O)
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #175
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2005 9:33:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another key issue that you failed to recognize is the fact that we are the only country in the world at this point in time, that is striving to preserve the draft body type. Yup, many of the European countries are, indeed, chasing the buck, breeding for what sells - lighter bone structure, riding type - sport horses - if you will. If you look through our record book, you will find a number of drafty Fjords. There is a large population, some very good ones, in the Midwest section of our country. I agree with Brian and can foresee in the future, that European countries will be coming to us to replenish their draft stock. Hi Gayle, I really liked your information. Did not know that the Old countries were doing the up sizing/refining of this wonderful Breed too. Very sad state of affairs in my books. The reason I bought a Fjord in the first place is they are smaller, stout, have very good bone and temperament. I do not want a up sized, narrowed bodied, uneven tempered, Homogenized horse. Do not think bigger/taller is better. Have too many horse breeds in this country that lost their Original Type, IMHO. The beautiful Fjord mare I bought from Gayle, and I kid you not, after 5 years of really searching was "The Best" mare I could find in the type of conformation & temperament & Training I wanted. While I do not plan to breed, I still know what I like and what is a good horse. There is a lot of breeders who would do well to have their horses go through the evaluation system. They would learn a lot and keep the Fjord horse on the right path. I dislike seeing Pig eyes, thin legs,, among other things. Would not want to see happen to the Fjord what is already happening with the Icelandic horses, along with other breeds. Though reading Gayle's Information,, I know this would not make a lot of Icelandic horse breeders happy and sure to get me flamed big time, but there are a lot of poorly breed over sensitive Icelandic horses out there. Maybe if they had some way to educate breeders, there would not be so many problem horses. Watching and owning this breed for 15 years, and seeing the drastic changes even in Iceland, with them up sizing and refining. they are not doing the breed any favors. My biggest problem is the more they refine these horses, I see in time that they will loose their weight carrying ability, among other things. I think the evaluation system is a good thing for the Fjord breed. Getting OT so will get off my soap box now. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #172
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:22:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went to one of the big horse expos.The Mylers were there demoing their bits.Mr.Myler is quite a jerk.He decided not to show up for one of the demos,leaving people waiting in the stands.He decided not to tell them he wasn't going.For the other demo,I was selected to help.I had been interested in a comfort snaffle.He used my arm to show how comfortable the bits were.At the end of the demo,my arm was black and blue with pinched torn skin.I did not use a Myler on my fjord after that. Ellen Ellen, I am really sorry to hear that. I do and have used a Myler for my miniature horse for years. They are the "Only" company that will make a custom bit for miniature horses in the correct mouth piece width. I know what my horses need, and most of the time it is impossible to find what I want. All other bits, what there are of them for miniature horses, were much to thick and uncomfortable. She is in a ported comfort snaffle, but this one has a lot less movement in the middle,does not collapse on the tongue. There is no pinch at all with it, believe me, she would let me know clearly! We are lucky there are so many other brands of bits out there for the Big horses. My Fjord mare will end up being ridden in my 5 1/2"Butterfly or Liverpool driving bits. I have a uexter Kimberwick but it is too small at 5". Like any bit, it is only as gentle as the hands that use it. Shari
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #170
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/1/2005 7:36:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shari, Just watch her for a few days and she will probably give you some ideas on a good barn name but you will probably just call her names like 'sweetie pie.' I was really lucky when I got my Olaf since I use it as his barn name as well.maybe Dusty or Dear since they sound similar.Good Girl...Sweetums..Pretty Girl.I do call Olaf the 'cookie moster' because he can tell if I have his cookies from a long distance. I think Fjords look at almost anything as food, Olaf even looks forward to the dewormer as a mid day treat.Congratulations on your Dustenai. Jeanne MI MI, I like the name "Cookie Monster" !! Was sitting under one of the big fir trees, just watching her eat last night, waiting for something to pop into my mind. Was thinking of calling her Dusty, but wanted something more female, since she is such a pretty mare. Gayle let me know they called her Dusty, and will more likely use that. Is funny, because normally with any animal I get, a name just pops into my mind. Not so with Dusty. Hummm Thank you!! Shari
New to List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Am new to this list, so I thought I would introduce myself. I just bought a wonderful Fjord mare, "Dustenai" from Gayle Ware of," Field of Dreams" Fjords. Went down twice to make doubly sure this mare was the one I have been looking for, for many years. She is! Her training is outstanding and she has such a sweet temperament. Will be giving her a couple of weeks to settle in, then we get to go for our first official ride! She is already nickering when I bring her Vitamins, and a tiny hand full of oats to go with it. Thank you Gayle for letting me buy Dustenai. Now I am searching for a Barn name for her, as I like to keep their Barn names one or two syllables. Right now I also have an Icelandic mare, who I hope to sell at some point so I can buy another Fjord horse. Two miniature horses, one of which I drive. And last but not least a 1 year old Jenny. Shari :O)
