Re: Friends made
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Yes, Gail, I met you through the list: Remember when we went to Libby together? And youcame up here!  How many years ago WAS that?  Which Fjords do you still have?  Romulous, Oden? And your first one?  It has been a wonderful ride here on the list!  Jean in snowy Fairbanks, Alaska  Hey, we gained a whole minute of daylight today! On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 15:37:03 -0800, Gail Russell wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell As a result of the list. Karen Mccarthy, Beth Beymer, Sandy North, Jean Ernest, Brigid Wasson. In fact Karen and I are, as we speak, working out a plan to go to the Rose Parade to march with a giant statue of Bernie Sanders. And I just got back from visiting Karen ' s place in Madras Oregon. And I still have a warm insulated coverall from Robin Churchill that she gave to me when she moved to Florida. I still have three Fjords. One 27, then 20 and 14. And a bunch of frozen semen that I need to pass on, if anyone is interested. Not riding much anymore. It has been a wonderful ride. Gail Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Michele Noonan Date: 12/23/2015 11:25 PM (GMT-08:00) To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2015 #99 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: coloring books
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Well, we could pretend we are painting them like Zebras, or with flowers or something!  Jean in Fairbanks, AK  -10 degrees, 6hrs 30" daylight! On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:04:36 -0600, laurie with wrote: This message is from: laurie with ya know, there is a plus and minus side to having a fjord horse coloring bookâ¦â¦.. there are only really 4 colors you can use on the horses. however, then you donât have to buy as many crayonsâ¦.. ;) laurie with livingi...@q.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: coloring books
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I got my coloring books today and they arereally funny, too!  I will get more or myself and my friends Equine therapy ranch!  Jean in Fairbanks Alaska  Length of day:  6h 50m: visible light 8h 49m, Temperature  +16 On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:37:33 -0500, Marsha wrote: This message is from: Marsha You guys are just too funny and predictable. I will have to order one and we will give out a copy of a page to every kid at the Pa Expo as we have with the "old coloring book" every year. Marsha Korose Sent from my iPhone Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord Coloring Books
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I  should have said: I just ordered three of each: 1 of each for me, and the others for my > adopted grand kids!  My best friend just adopted four boys, > brothers, ages 8 to 14, and designated me as their grandmother! >  They all call me "Grandma"! How great is that! She is also in the > process of starting an Equine therapy ranch, using horses for > healing: Veterans with PSTD,  children who have been abused, > emotionally or physically, and children in foster care,as well as >  autistic children.  I am helping her with that project.  Other > people have donated their time and one woman is donating two gypsy > cobs, all trained for driving and for riding by children. So things > are getting exciting here!  Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska  26 degrees here today,with 7 hours daylight! > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:05:33 -0800, Gail Russell wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell The funds are rolling in. Jean, I will have to call you to hear about your adopted grandkids! Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord Coloring Books
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I just ordered  of each: i of each for me, and the others for my adopted grand kids!  Jean in Alaska, +23 today and 7 hours daylight! On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:08:25 -0500, Kay Van Natta wrote: This message is from: Kay Van Natta According to Amazon my Fjordish coloring books are in the mail! I am waiting (crayons in hand) by the mailbox. Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm Sent from my iPad > On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Dave and Patti Walter wrote: > > This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" Just wanted to share > with everyone, 2 wonderfully illustrated Fjord Horse > Coloring Books that have just recently been published on Amazon. Created by > Patti Jo Walter, Illustrated by the very talented artist, Pat Holland. They > were created for my riding students. I wanted to help them learn terminology > in a fun way. They were so well received that I decided to share them with > the world! So.. these books are not just coloring books, but educational > books as well. They are for youth and adults and for those that know Pat > Holland's work, are filled with great wit and humor! Here are the links: > http://goo.gl/IKdemN for book 1 and for book 2 http://goo.gl/QFwi33. They > are also very Affjordable at $6.99. Patti Jo Walter > Francis Creek Fjords > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: skylar
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com So glad you have found another fjord to love! Leila IS beautiful! May you have many wonderful years with her! Jean in Alaska (will be 76 degrees here today) On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:03:57 -0500, laurie with livingi...@q.com wrote: This message is from: laurie with livingi...@q.com thank you to all who expressed the sympathy about my loss of skylar. i have also heard from others who have experienced the same thing, and my heart goes out to you. our big strong equines can be taken down be the smallest things. skylar taught me a lot about horses, riding and myself. she was sent to me to continue what oz could no longer do. she was feisty, sassy, opinionated, herd boss and fearless. i took her to a desensitising clinic shortly after i got her. i had only ridden her a few times, but she was a rock star. there was nothing there that bothered her. other participants asked why i was there, since she was so good. i told them it was me that was scared, not her. we struggled. she always wanted to go faster. our attempts at a canter were usually a train wreck. but we worked on it. and in recent days, we were learning how to actually slow down, to listen when i said No we cannot jumps the trot poles. i realized a lot about my riding skills. i learned to quietly get her to slow down and listen. it worked. and then i lost her. after speaking with my vet, i am thinking perhaps there was something going on that finally came to a head sunday night. she was getting girthy. she would stop walking and not want to go forward. she was constantly farting (scuse my language). we just though it was normal fjordie quirks, and we will never know for sure. if you are not on Facebook, i had 100s of notes of support from our Fjord family around the world. and others who have experienced the same pain. we are not alone. i also posted that i am extremely fortunate to have found another fjord who will be able to continue what skylar began. i am purchasing Iduna Acres Leila from Candy Lund in wisconsin. she is a 10 year old daughter of WH Stone and has done everything. from the photos i have seen, she is stunning to look at, but also has the wonderful Fjord qualities we all so love. she excelled at her first years in Blue Earth, and has the same soft eye and calm demeanor we look for. i am very grateful to her owner that she will entrust this lovely mare to me. Skylar has told me in her own way that it is ok. i will be picking her up on August 1st. again. thank you to our entire Fjord family. i have known since early on that Fjords come with an extended family. i am proud to be a part of the celebration of this glorious breed. laurie with livingi...@q.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2014 #28
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Ha Ha ha! Horses do very well up here, and Fjords are especially suited to this weather with all their fur. Granted it takes a little more preparation to get set up for winter with insulated heated stock tanks, etc. but flies are not a problem here, No West Nile virus, No pigeon Fever, no Lyme disease, No ticks, no Rain Rot, etc. I think it is the human's comfort she is thinking about! LOL Jean in Fairabanks, Alaska, cooling down but still above normal temps! I was thinking of you the other day, Jean, when a new Fjord owner didn't want to look at property as far north as Courtenay (about 3 hours north of Victoria; think Seattle climate with less rain) because it would be too cold for her boy. Alice Subject: Re: Riding Horseback in Purple This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Mine is on its way from Amazon! Jean in warm Fairbanks, Alaska Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Riding Horseback in Purple
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Mine is on its way from Amazon! Jean in warm Fairbanks, Alaska I am looking for it nowcan't wait to read also!! Beth Merrill, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:59 AM, fjordhorse-digest owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com wrote: So I hope Riding Horseback in Purple is a small gift back from Bocina and me. I'll be in touch with some of you individually. But as a group, I thought I would let you know that the e-book version showed up on one site Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Lisa has been hacked
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Any time I see a message from someone with the subject Hey I check to see if it is really their email address. I never click on the link. Usually an unknown email address too. Jean in Warm Fairbanks, Alaska,+35 at my house +45-50 on the hills. Normal is a high of 2, low of -17 Do not click on the link from Lisa Lucidi. Hey I dropped her a private note. She will work on fixing ASAP. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: URGENT
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I think this an Hoax! I have seen this before. Do not send money! This message is from: Beth Gerst bger...@hotmail.com Hello, How are you doing? please I really did not want to disturb you with this but I just had to turn it up. I am currently in London, United Kingdom to see my cousin who lives here. He is critically ill and needs family support. He was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukaemia and has been undergoing treatment since. The chemotherapy treatment was going fine until last week when the doctor noticed that the disease has relapsed and the only way he can survive is by undergoing a BMT (Bone Marrow Transplantation). My sister whose marrow matched his has agreed to be the donor and he shall be undergoing the transplant soon at the The Royal London Hospital(London)The estimate for the transplant is £12,000 pounds. I have already spent approx.£8,500 pounds towards his treatment. I traveled with little money due to the short time I had to prepare for this trip and I never expected things to be the way it is right now, I need you to support me with a loan of £2,500 pounds. I will refund the £2,500 loan back to you by 26 January 2014, if you can help, please let me know. Since I do not know your financial status at the moment, any amount you can afford to loan out to me will be deeply appreciated. Your help and support will give him a chance to live a normal life once again. There is nothing called a small help when the heart giving it is big. Any amount will be accepted with gratitude and paid back after the surgery. Please let me know how much you can loan to me and I will provide you with the details to get the money. Thanks. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Breaking sleigh trail
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com What a beautiful account of a winters day working on the trails! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska,where it was +30 today: We are Again sending the cold down south! This message is from: Phillip Odden n...@centurytel.net This message is from Phillip Odden in Northwestern Wisconsin where we are experiencing an old fashion winter with all the trimmings. The talk around here, in our rural neighborhood, is about winter. It hasnt let up. If its not snowing its cold. We have a weather pattern referred to as Alberta clippers. The wind blows hard from the east and then south, it warms up a bit, snows and the wind turns to the west and northwest and it gets down right cold. Then again the wind blows from the east to the south and more snow drifting and then cold. My 2 1/2 mile sleigh trails were in pretty good shape before Christmas. Over the past couple weeks they have been drifting over. My personal cutoff for comfortable sleighing is 10 degrees fahrenheit. Well today at 3:00 pm it was 12. So I decided to give my pair of grays a go at grooming the sleigh trails. Oddens Idar is a 6 year old gelding and Oddens Josephine is a 5 year old mare. Both in good shape. They are a matched pair in color, stride and size. In summer time they are a dark steel gray but in their winter coats are a ghostly silver gray with dark black points. They stand about 14.1, are well muscled, calm and have adequate experience so one can feel fairly relaxed handling them. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Getting horses to drink in cold weather
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I have no trouble getting horses to drink even when it is -40 here: I have an insulated water tank with a sinking heater which is thermostat controlled. so water is never really cold. They drink fine, even more when they are getting extra hay in the very cold weather Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where it was a warm +20 today! We usually don't have this problem where I live but I take something we do in very hot weather and also use it when the weather is cold. I know some people are going to laugh and think we are crazy (which is probably not far from the truth) but in my part of Florida, we give our horses Gatorade in the hot weather after work when they have sweated a lot. I add electrolytes to it because the amount of Gatorade we give is not really for electrolyte replacement. After work, we give them an 8 quart bucket with 2 or 3 scoops of the powder. I use the lemon-lime, orange or blue so when they splash it on you, your clothes don't get stained. In the winter, if it gets below 50 at night which is cold for us, they really slow down their drinking so I throw a couple scoops in one of their water buckets at night and the bucket is empty in the morning. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rose Parade photos
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Wonderful Photos! One suggestion: It would be nice to be able to use Pay Pal for payment! Jean in Alaska This message is from: Teressa tere...@kodiakfishco.com Hello all: We are still sorting everything out lots of photos taken! Heres a link to a selection of Sandy Norths photographs she uploaded to SmugMug. http://norwegianfjords.smugmug.com/ If you order these photos, the profits will go to the Rose Parade fund. Thanks to Sandy for doing all this work sorting and posting and setting it up. The Parade route from staging to disbanding was 6 ½ miles and Sandy must have run 20 miles to get all these views. You can look at these and if you wish to order, follow the instructions you can order the whole shootin match to download to your computer the resolution wont be such that they can be blown up and wont be suited for publication but perfect for personal use and for sending a photo or two to family and friends. And you can order any size of each photo. I just gave it a test run and its working perfectly. (Have to have pictures to send to my mom!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rose Parade photos
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Well, I'd be happy to Give a good donation to the Rose parade account! Where do we do this? Jean, in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we will be getting our cold weather back tomorrow! This message is from: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net It looks like I messed up when I setup the SmugMug account. The albums were not supposed to be for sale. Only prints and low-rez versions for download. Hope you bought a lottery ticket today -- seems like this is your lucky day! Glad you enjoyed the photos! Sandy Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjords in the Rose Parade!
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com If you have RFDTV you will see all the equestrian groups plus can watch the show of all the groups performing in the arena several nights before the parade. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska 6 degrees at 11:30pm I really hope someone will record this portion of the parade and make it available to us somehow. It seems they cut out all the equestrian units from televised parades or show only the tiniest glimpses... How exciting for your group, though! --Kelly. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjords in the Rose Parade!
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Well the Rose PArade is on January 1st: New Year's Day. The show will be held sometime the week before, but I don't know the exact date. It is probably posted on the RFDTV website. Jean Dumb question, I know, but when? On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:41 AM, jern...@mosquitonet.com wrote: This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com If you have RFDTV you will see all the equestrian groups plus can watch the show of all the groups performing in the arena several nights before the parade. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska 6 degrees at 11:30pm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
corrector pad
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com these are made by Len Brown who designed the Ortho-Flex saddle sand then lost the company. Now he is saying all flex panel saddles are no good and he has the answer. Not! I ordered one when they first came out but sold it as I couldn't see that it could work. Check out all the information on flex panel saddles http://www.hillviewfarms.com/ they make the evolutionary saddles and have a lot of info about the flex panels and the corrector pad. I still like the Ortho-flex saddles,the original ones made in Nevada Mo. Saddle fit is definitely a cause of a lot of behavior problems. Also check out Dave Genedek's website about the horse He Has a great saddle fitting video and makes great western saddles that work! also some special for women. http://www.aboutthehorse.com/ Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska 50 degrees today! pointed out to me that the Corrector Pad has the same weaknesses as a treeless saddle in that it ends up putting pressure on the front and/or rear of the saddle. I have not looked at it recently, but I do not think you can shim along the center of the saddle. My saddle was bridging in the center, though it fit on the front and back. She was able to use shims on the saddle, and/or placed judicious use of particular pads and shims stuck to the felt pad. If you are anywhere near their California/nevada/Oregon territory (maybe they go further afield?), I would have them do a saddle fitting. In the end, I bought a Specialized Trail Lite with an endurance seat because it was more comfortable for me. Even with that saddle, she used custom shims on it. (Specialized saddles come with a shim fit system.) The whole episode made me realize that there are a lot of horse problems that are not only people problems, but also saddle problems. There are a lot of horses out there who have been labelled as resistant who are not. They may just be hurting and being, literally, crippled by their saddles. In fact, I do believe resistant should be removed from a horseman's vocabulary because the word does not carry accurate specific information about a problem and because it is a blame the horse word that I believe is inappropriate. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Listingsfor Fjords / Adults Who Prefer Quiet Fjords
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Well a lot of mule folks do compare the Fjord mind and intelligence to mules and like them for that! So that's not a bad thing! LOL Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where it will warm up to the 50's this week! I hate to say this, but I am training her as if she was a mule. One last point I would like to make is that I live in a mountainous environment and would like a sure footed sensible mount. Annette Scherr Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: My trip to NM
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Wow! major Life Change! Are you getting tired of all those cold winters? LOL Jean in Fairbanks,Alaska where we're having the warmest summer on record! You are correct, Gail...this trip is trailer only, no horses. It's a dry run - the trailer filled with necessary gear for my place in New Mexico. As I write this my NM 10 acres is being readied for habitation. I'll live in my LQ trailer so a cement slab has been poured with easy access to custom placed utilities/hook-ups. A small shed will hold utilities and a washer/dryer. A no crawl fence surrounds the property. Horse shelter/cross fencing next year. My plan was to spend this coming winter in NM - until I got the fabulous news that my youngest daughter, Anne, is having a baby boy in late October!!! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Diarrhea (again)
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Could it be her teeth? If long stemmed grass causes more diarrhea maybe she needs her teeth done? Jean in hot smoky Fairbanks, AK My mare has had chronic mild diarrhea. She is not sick, no fever, not lethargic. I also seems like the longer the grass in the pasture, the looser the piles. I know I sound crazy, but this does drive me crazy. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: training or disposition?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com What about the Free Upfeeder with the metal frame on the top? But your barrel idea sounds likeit would be cheaper. Jean in hot and smoky Alaska Cinch Chix 1 inch netting. I use their West Coast Large Bale feeders and cut them in half (to make two shorter nets, with a screw on carabiner type thing closing the bottom of the net. I put the open top of the net over the end of a white 35 gallon barrel, pulling it up like a sock over a foot, but only about 4 to 6 inches up. My husband has taken off the tops and bottoms of the barrel (leaving the rim to strengthen it) before I do this, and he has also drilled 3/8 inch holes in two rows about that I use to tie the netting to the barrel. I end up with an open topped barrel with a net sock hanging about 2 1/2 to three feet down below the bottom of the barrel. We hang this on a pipe panel and put a largish water trough (Rubbermaid, about $75) beneath. We throw a day's ration into the top and let them have at it. They do most of their eating by shaking the nets until the fines fall out. There is something called a Hay Hoop you can buy from KV Supply. They are not as easy to load, and you need a stall wall to mount them on (or a barn wall). They come with a larger hole net, so not as slow feeding, but Cinch Chix nets would fit on them. They are a pretty good solution. Gail From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Christiansen [t...@littlerockfarm.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:50 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: training or disposition? This message is from: Theresa Christiansen t...@littlerockfarm.com What brand of slow feeders do you use? Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm 425 788 2358 206 972 7222 cell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: From bridles to bits...Need a slightly bigger one
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Search on eBay for 5 1/4 and 5 1/2 bits Jean in hot Alaska I ride english and western and am having issues with finding a western low port curb bit for my fjord.  She barely fits the standard 5 inch width and we tried to spread the top part (where it attaches to the bridle) with limited success.  I know myler will custom make them.  Any other suggestions for sources?  I tried to search sites online with limited success... 5 inch is too small and draft sizes way too big. Have been enjoying the discussion on fjord disposition, etc.  Reminded me of looking for the one I know own (and adore).  Two years ago, I rode one that was described as a sporty type fjord that  I later discovered had a reputation for being  spooky.  The owner couldnt show him to me because she fell off and broke her arm...     My mare will spook when she is insecure, a little high (loves cooler weather) pushed a little out of her comfort zone...but after experiencing my ex-racehorse spooking, hers usually make me smile .  Kinda slow motion and ending in a freeze and stare.   I enjoy her so much, not just because she is a somewhat typical fjord, but after following these posts I think we are a good match of temperament and experience ...and we become better adapted to each other everyday.  Beth M, Bob, the Corgis and the Fjord Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
R.I.P STELLA II N-14138 C-120
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Well her time finally came: Stella made it through the winter, barely, but was falling down today, staggering in circles, so it was time to put her down. She was 36 years old, the same age as old Bjarne when he died. We had the second hole dug when we buried Bjarne two years ago, and were finally able to get down there. Dear old Stella, I have been worried every day that we would have to help her get up. She went down and we had to use the winch on the ATV to help her get up. The other day we had to get three neighbors to help get her out of the stall where she had gone down. I knew when I watched her this afternoon that it was time. It is a relief but there is a big hole in my heart. Stella left a legacy through her daughter Anvil's Stina: Lisa Pedersen has most of Stina's offspring: I have Anvil's Adel who's sire is Leidjo. The poem: Dont Cry For the Horses is for Stella this time: She was the most beautiful white horse. * Don't Cry For The Horses, by Brenda Riley-Seymore Don't cry for the horses That life has set free A million white horses Forever to be Don't cry for the horses Now in God's hands As they dance and they prance To a heavenly band They were ours as a gift But never to keep As they close their eyes Forever to sleep Their spirits unbound On silver wings they fly A million white horses Against the blue sky Look up into heaven You'll see them above The horses we lost The horses we loved Manes and tails flowing They Gallop through time They were never yours They were never mine Don't cry for the horses They will be back someday When our time has come They will show us the way On silver wings they will lift us To the warmth of the sun When our life is over And eternity has begun We will jump the sun And dance over the moon A Ballet of horses and riders on the winds to a heavenly tune Do you hear that soft nicker Close to your ear? Don't cry for the horses Love the ones that are here Don't cry for the horses Lift up your sad eyes Can't you see them As they fly by? A million white horses Free from hunger and pain Their spirits set free Until we ride again ** Rest in Peace dear, dear Stella, My very first horse. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: R.I.P STELLA II N-14138 C-120
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Thanks Jo, I appreciate all of the heartfelt condolence messages, but I do have tears in my eyes. Amazingly there are a lot of old horses here: Maybe because they only work about 6 months of the year, and flies, ticks and many of the diseases like West Nile fever, EPM and Lyme disease are not here. Horses tolerate cold better than heat also if there is plenty of feed and water. But a number of horses did die here this winter, Most when it warmed up after our record cold spell in November. I only hope my other two will live as long and healthy lives as Bjarne and Stella! Jean, In Alaska where snow is finally melting but we have a lot to go! 36 years old. Holy smokes!, must be the clean air up there in your neck of the woods. I find in times such as this, i do not have the correct words. My heart is heavy when i think of the grief this loss must bring to you. Please feel the prayers coming your way from a fellow Fjorder. God bless you. With much fondness, Jo Wilgus Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Poem for Oz
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com http://www.faeriekeeper.net/poetry4.htm Don't Cry For The Horses, by Brenda Riley-Seymore is written by a modern day heroine who lives in Sun Valley, California. A cowgirl with a cop for a boyfriend, she was born in Kentucky and raised on a ranch. A semi retired animal trainer for motion pictures, whose heroes are cops and cowboys, she now works Los Angeles in information systems. Brenda and her 18 year old daughter who saves all creatures great and small. Don't Cry For The Horses, by Brenda Riley-Seymore Don't cry for the horses That life has set free A million white horses Forever to be Don't cry for the horses Now in God's hands As they dance and they prance To a heavenly band They were ours as a gift But never to keep As they close their eyes Forever to sleep Their spirits unbound On silver wings they fly A million white horses Against the blue sky Look up into heaven You'll see them above The horses we lost The horses we loved Manes and tails flowing They Gallop through time They were never yours They were never mine Don't cry for the horses They will be back someday When our time has come They will show us the way On silver wings they will lift us To the warmth of the sun When our life is over And eternity has begun We will jump the sun And dance over the moon A Ballet of horses and riders on the winds to a heavenly tune Do you hear that soft nicker Close to your ear? Don't cry for the horses Love the ones that are here Don't cry for the horses Lift up your sad eyes Can't you see them As they fly by? A million white horses Free from hunger and pain Their spirits set free Until we ride again .. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Loose stools
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com There is a product called Ration Plus which I have used with great success: Ration Plus Restores the digestive system to proper balance. Supplies Lactobacillus acidophilus, a natural prebiotic, to the digestive system where it provides vital nutrients to the beneficial bacteria found there. This helps to establish a healthy balance of digestive microflora. As balance is restored, your horse can better utilize his feed, leading to a multitude of health benefits, including weight gain, reduction of stomach upsets and diarrhea, reduction of low-grade ulcers and colic, reduction of hay belly, increased stamina and improved hoof, skin and coat quality. Each bottle is approximately an 80 day supply. A bottle cost about $27, KV vet, Vally vet, etc. Jean in Fairbanks. Alaska, +15 today and sunny, 4 hrs 27 minutes possible sunlight: gaining about 5 minutes a day! This message is from: Teresa Nick Marty teresanick.ma...@gmail.com Have any of you with this problem tried probiotics on your horses? My trainer swears by them and we have used them for our dogs in different situations. You can read all about them at www.healthyhorses.ca According to my trainer, loose stools, unless they are from worms, are almost always a sign of insufficient digestive microbes in the gut. easy solution. repopulate the gut with beneficial microbes. Check it out at www.healthyhorses.ca Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
FOR SALE : NFHR / BROWN DUN STALLION
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Posting for Lisa Pedersen: FOR SALE : NFHR / BROWN DUN STALLION PF Bergen 2008, Our breeding. The ONLY stallion we have left intact from our own breeding program in 22 years now producing nice Fjords. * we are very picky. ( Knutsen Fjord's Soren * Flotren x OH Sadie * Erlend X Anvil's Linnea * Leidjo ) BLUE ribbon evaluated stock, bloodlines galore, brown, possible red, grey genes. 14.1 medium build, very correct for Norwegian type. Beautiful young stallion, outstanding breeding and compitition prospect. Wonderful mover. Dishy head, long forelock, huge eyes. Puppy dog personality, handled daily, never bred. Always out and about around other stallions, mares. Reminds us very much of his dams sire, Leidjo. Started, and is worked in tack, loads, perfect for farrier. The moment he was born, we knew we had something special and with 4 other stallions here, the LAST thing I needed was another one, but he is that nice. UTD on everything. PRIVATE TREATY. Jeff, Lisa Pedersen ( 435 ) 590-2391 or ( 435 ) 590-1346 // pedfjo...@aol.com // Pedersens Fjords, Cedar City, UT. See Pics on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=532778240080465set=a.101877916503835.4445.10448810345type=1theater Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: ? hacked Fjord List members acct
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I received one like this supposedly from my nephew but with another email address: Check the email address from the sender! If you have ANY doubts, trash it! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, clear and cold; -5 Dear List, A Fjord List friend just notified me that she received a funky suspicious email that she thinks might be from me. There is the possibility that you may receive an email w/ this return address:ctqrichardso...@yahoo.com In the subject line it might say Hi (your name) If you see anything like this in your inbox, please do not open it and delete promptly. Thanks and sorry to have to mention this. Karen in Oregon Subject: Mules-old subject FYI From: me.k...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:43:25 -0700 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com This message is from: Me Kint me.k...@yahoo.com My farrier was here to do my fjords, we talked about mules. My farrier has owned a mule knows some farriers who specialize in shoeing/trimming mules. He could trim his own mule but said he wouldn't guarantee that anyone else could. He maintains that mules are a one person animal. He will not have a mule as one of his clients. He told me a great deal about mules. He also knows a farrier who was kicked in the head killed by a mule. What I am suggesting is that anyone who is considering owning or breeding for mules should find out if their farrier will provide for the hoof care, or if their is anyone in your area who would. I didn't ask if any of the specialist charge more to do mules but that would be worth asking too. From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: oz as therapy horse
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Would a joint supplement with Devil's claw and Yucca make him more comfortable? I used Corta-flx RX 100 which had Devil's Claw and Yucca for old Bjarne who was lame at times, but I don't think he had ring bone. You can get Devil's Claw and Yucca powder by itself, DC-Y Devils Claw and Yucca for horses from Met-Vet Phramaceuticals is recommended to help ease discomfort associated with normal daily exercise and activity. DCY is apple-flavored with an alfalfa base. Each oz of DC Y contains 2,097 devils claw extract and 2,500 mg yucca extract. Dosage: Adult horses 900-1,100 lbs - higher maintenance level - 1 oz daily, lower maintenance level - 1/2 oz daily (may be doubled for first 14-21 days). oz has given lessons to a girl with asperger's syndrome, and her mother has done 2 videos for her blog. this horse is so special, and takes such good care of all the kids. i feel badly that he is so lame, and i need to retire him from the barn programs. here are the links to both videos http://youtu.be/Ezcx5tUeVUE http://youtu.be/Ezcx5tUeVUE laurie, and oz, my heart horse Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Skogheims Viljar - white duns, etc
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And then there is my mare Anvil's Adel: Registered in canada as a white dun, she is very white with no real stripe in her mane, but she does have scattered BLACK hairs in her mane and tail! So is she a yellow dun? or a white dun with a few scattered black hair for a stripe? A faint stripe is discernable in her mane when her mane is cut pretty short and clean...It looks like a pale grey stripe. She has black skin and black eye liner, etc. Her hooves are striped and very hard. I don't know if any of her yellow dun siblings have the scattered black hairs: Lisa Pedersen has several! Adel has 3 siblings that are white dun, three that are yellow Dun (?), although Anvil's Sander is registered as white dun, he has no visible stripe in his mane. So, There are all shades! I have a video showing a stallion in Sweden that looks like a bay, the mane is grey on the outside with a black stripe. His offspring are sll regular brown duns! I love Phil Sponenberg's books on the genetics of color in Horses! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudy , 65 degrees For example, perhaps you've seen red duns whose stripe is so pale that it seems invisible? People have gotten excited and thought that they had a yellow dun. However, if neither of the parents is either uls dun or yellow dun (or a grey who is carrying a hidden cremello gene (rare)), you know the offspring cannot be a genetic yellow dun, although by phenotype it looks that way, it must be genetically red dun. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Dun color
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com There was a time in Fjordhorse history when the White duns were popular and breeders were breeding white dun to white dun only to find that that sometimes produced a Kvit, or an all white albino with pink skin and blue eyes. As a result the White or Uls duns fell out of favor and were considered less desirable. One such colored Fjord was produed here in the US when Modellin was bred to a white dun mare. There Was a good article on this in the Small Farmers Journal some years ago. Years ago there were also pinto Fjords and other colors but breeders selected for the dun factor and all Fjords are now some shade of dun. Jean in Fairbanks alaska i hope breeding for color NEVER becomes a breeder's decision. my hope IS that breeders will breed for temperment, disposition, good bones, conformation, you know all the things that make the FJORD such an incredible breed. back 4000 or so years ago when the breed was recognized were there other dun colors? are the colors a man-made color? i am curious , not knowledgable about this. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: SKIN SO SOFT 2
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I too live in mosquito county, but we don't have the fly problems that folks in the lower 48 have. I had seen the OFF Clip-ons in the store for weeks and had thought they were just another fad, but guess what? THEY WORK! no smell no repellent on your skin, just clip it on you belt, lay it on the picnic table outside, NO MOSQUITOS! I haven't tried it on a trail ride on a moving horse, but I am sure they would work if you were sitting on your horse just standing around, or keep your horse shielded from mosquitos if he was tied to the trailer, etc. I was trying to figure out how to fasten it to my horse while he is in the corral or paddock but I think they would rub it off rolling. I love it! I also keep on at my bedside in case I hear that Bzzz around my head when I am trying to sleep. Give the OFF Clip-on a try! Maybe it repels flies, who knows? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, 78 degrees today with a couple showers. I have to chuckle when I seen SSS used as a repellent. We used to live only about two miles from the Canadian border on a lake in northern Minnesota, and only were able to watch wonderful Canadian TV(seriously). The Canadians did a test using SSS, another product containing plant derivatives (pyrethrins), and another using 100% deet, which we all know is detrimental to everything, but works, and conducted a test using a person's arm in a mosquito containment box. The best product for mosquitos NOT to bite was, of course the deet, the next was pyrethrins, a chrysanthemum derivative, and the one that was the least effective was the SSS, however, a lot of people swear by the product. I live in a mosquito infested area, and I personally have had the best luck with using a lemon/eucalyptus spray for use on humans. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: oz the people whisperer
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Laurie, Could it be Oz is picking up on YOUR moods? Maybe that is why hewas depressed too. And when your mood picked up he responded! A couple years ago I broke my foot hopping off Bjorken on our first ride of the summer. (Long story) I tied him to the porch and removed the bridle but left him there for a little while until my friend came to help, and the friend put him away. I didn't see him for a day or two, then my friend told me Bjorken looked depressed and I should go see him, and ultimately he had developed a conditon which looked like colic (but wasn't), vet decided his electrolytes were off, he wasn't eating and drinking etc. It was HOT and smokey so maybe that was the reason...but I went out to help take care of him and he recovered in a couple days...now did he get sick because I broke my foot and didn't see him after I tied him to the porch? I don't know, but I somehow feel there was a connection. Our special animal buddies pick up on our moods and body language for sure. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska cloudy, but not raining! the past couple of weeks oz has been mentally off as well as physically. he wouldn't take gummy bears, he hung his head the minute he was in the cross ties and fell asleep, he was walking slow, etc. the last couple of weeks i have been very depressed about his condition, and trying to make the change to a new barn. i think since i talked to lisa and decided to stay where we are, my mood has relaxed and i have stopped crying at the drop of a curry comb. today i went to the barn to check on him. he's been staying indoors with a fan since yesterday, as are the indoor board horses. i took him to the cross ties for some brushing, let him roll in the arena and then hosed him down. he was very much more alert, holding his head up, and begging for gummy bears and taking them. he just seemed more relaxed and happier. he sticks his head out the stall door and smiles at everyone who goes by. just saying .. laurie, and oz, who really is norwegian and not a southern belle .gonna be 100 here again today Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: peeing ponies
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com OK, Why do you keep them in stalls? My three Fjords have two large corrals, open at each end so they can use both, and I keep the three together...they will run around the center fence and play and get a lot of exercise. They have a run-in shelter and I have a small barn with one stall where I feed the old mare Stella her mash. But they don't stay in stalls 16 hours a day, even in the winter. Why do you keep yours in stalls in Texas? When I did have the young mare separated in the pen with access to the stall all of the time, she would pee in the shavings in the stall in preference to outside on the ground where it would splatter her legs! In the winter this was a real problem as the frozen shavings and ice would build up! I used to put shavings in the run-in shelter too, but they would pee in there too with a build-up of frozen shaving in the winter, so I quit that. If you keep them in stalls with a run-in why not have rubber mats in the stalls with no shavings and they would not pee in there. Ask Lisa Pedersen how she Trains her fjords not to pee or poop in the stalls... Jean in rainy Fairbanks, Alaska..but there is no smoke from fires here! Its funny with horses/ponies, all have their fav. spots to pee and seems the girls even where they poop. I'd found the geldings kind of not so particular. My Lang I had was a good boy, if he had access to outside, he'd rather go outside, leaving his stall clean. Another fjord gelding I'd had for a bit, was the same way, would keep the stall clean and step outside into the sand. Which sometimes was an issue too, always using the same spot over and over, it becomes a bit much for the sand to handle. So we'd have to removed heavy stinky wet sand, digging to the ground and then add more sand. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: peeing ponies, keeping horses in stalls
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com My concept of a stall is what we do in Alaska: a well insulated barn or maybe a log barn, insulated roof, etc, with an enclosed stall, 10X12 or10X12, etc, mine has two doors, most here in a barn with multiple stalls had one door opening onto an inner isle, all built for warmth, etc in the winter. But In Texas and Arizona and other warm states I've seen pictures of stalls that are made of pipe panels with a roof over them to allow breezes and air circulation. So my thinking is I don't want to keep my horse in a stall like we have here in Alaska any more than necessary, let them out to enjoy the weather when it is nice, not much of a fly problem here, very few days that are warmer than 80 degrees,etc. They need to move around even in the cold winter. Stalls are convenient for the horse owner, horses stay cleaner, etc. but I think it isn't great for the horses to be isolated and kept in a small space for 12-16 hour of their day. better that they are out moving around, in a small herd situation. Just my thoughts. Jean in Alaska, where I can watch my three Fjords playing, sleeping on the ground, or dozing together, somewhat dirty from rolling in the dirt, but happy. I think itâs a personal choice if one stalls, part time stalls, full time, pasture board with run ins, pasture board with trees. Everyone has their way of doing it, its what works for them and their horses. Horses are pretty much creatures of habit. I don't believe that the best for them is out 24/7 but I'm fine with those that do think that. In Texas, its HOT, when it gets in the 100's and stays there, no breezes, no rains, nothing should be out in it. I've seen many of the great dairy farms with the HUGE pasture waterers running them on their cows while out in pasture. And they too stall them with fans blowing and fly spray control. If the beef cows have access to ponds, thatâs usually where you will find them. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Ringbone, again + again. . .
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I don't believe any of the Leidjo/Stina, Stella and Line related Fjords have had any Ringbone problems. Lisa Pedersen has most of the Leidjo/Stina offspring and I don't believe they have had any lameness issues nor has Leidjo at age 29. My 35 year old mare, Stella II, who's dam is Line and Daughter Anvil's Stina, has never had any lameness issues, nor has her son Bjorken, now 25(sire: Anvil's Rikolv) Old Bjarne (C23) might have had some ringbone as He had a hard swelling on the front of is rear pasterns, but his shoulder issue was more of a problem. He had a very hard life before I got him. His grandfather on both sides was Stolmann C1 and both his Grandmothers were from Denmark. It would be interesting to look through the lineage of Fjords with and without Ringbone issues to see the genetic relationships. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, more rain showers today, but warm and sunny in between. We've sent our Firefighters down to the fires in the lower 48! So, according to my vet, if it is not in the joint, it's probably inherited. Folks, I truly think this is an issue with this breed. I have said so before and of course here I am saying it again; if you don't believe me, take a look at how many different times ringbone has reared its ugly head in the Fjord List archives. Alot. And this is a very small amount of horses really.The horses that I own or owned that were affected by this are: Thyri, Alycia and now Idelle. Look 'em up in the Pedigree site. Thyri is Alycia's dam. Idelle is unrelated. To date none of Sven x Jorunn's progeny have had a hint of lameness issues. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: tacky Tack, saddle pads
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I have been using the Syn-felt pads for years...they are synthetic but feel soft and do wick the sweat: My horse's back will be dry all over after a ride. I use the 5/8 pad under my western Ortho-Flex saddle, I do have the 1 also. They can be washed, hose off, and vacuumed. You can trim them to fit English saddles, etc. Description from KV-Vet: http://www.kvsupply.com/KVVet/productr.asp?pf%5Fid=92506gift=FalseHSLB=Falsemscssid=DA8132C315244FD18577B8D0AA5CB7F8 Syn-felt makes the perfect pad or blanket liner. It is very absorbent and cushioning and will resist saddle slipping. 30 x 30. Withers will shape to fit! Absorbent Syn-Felt holds up to four times its weight in moisture, conforms to horses back, maintains shape and density and resists slipping. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, longest day of the year: 21h 49m possible sunlight, 24 hours visible light, 78 degrees today! PS My saddle pads are all the dressage type, made of cotton, and get thrown into the washing machine on a regular basis. The referenced article talks mostly about the variety of synthetic materials used in the manufacture of the thicker western-type pads. It's hard to see how you could wash some of those bigger, stiffer ones... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: New member/owner
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com How big are these flakes? I give my fjords 1 flake each three times a day, plus a little Safe Choice Special care for the younger ones (about 2/3 lb/day) and the 35 year old mare also get 5 lbs senior feed per day. I feed Brome grass hay, Bales average 73 lbs. each and last 2 1/3 days for one bale to feed 3 fjords, or about 12 lbs hay each/day (I estimate) for the younger Fjords as the old mare doesn't eat as much hay. The new Nutrena Safe Choice Special Care feed is great for the Fjords as it has very low starch, but adequate supply of vitamins and minerals, great for insulin resistant horses. Jean in sunny Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 75 degrees. 21hour, 48 minutes sun, does notr get dark at all at night! My gelding Andy, who is 9yrs.old is also is on a diet...HA! All I do is cut back very little at a time on the grain. I give him three flakes of hay in the am. and three flakes in the pm. I think it's the grain that tends to put on the xtra weight. I don't have alot of grass where I live. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: New member/owner
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I wouldn't ride with a saddle that pinches and leaves white spots...it could do permanent damage and affect her behavior and bonding with you! Causing her discomfort when you are just getting to know her could affect her attitude long time. I know how hard it is to take weight off these guys. You may be able to use shims with the saddle pad and saddle to even out the pressure, or if you have a wider saddle, use a thicker pad with that saddle. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 75 degrees. light all night now! I'm currently going through a saddle fitting saga with my Sparrow but have recently learned she's carrying a bit more weight than she did several years ago so getting in shape may fix my tree size problem. I am curious if the list has any suggestions - while working to get weight off/back in shape and leaner, would you ride in the closest thing you've got even if it still pinches, or would you continue to look for a saddle that will fit correctly now but may not work later if she loses the weight? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Hay
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I guess we aren't so bad off here in Alaska, I can store 400 73 lb bales in my hay barn and have it's good even the next year! After delivery and paying a crew to unload and stack it it ran about $14-15/bale last year! Farmers grow Brome grass and Timothy hay here, also oats and Oat hay and Barley and barley straw. Jean in sunny Fairbanks, Alaska, where leaves are coming out, hills turning green! 18 1/2 hours possible sun, 22 1/2 hours daylight! Hooray! Here we just get whatever we get and if you don't have air conditioning for your hay in the summer, you can't keep it long. I have a little air conditioner in my hay room so I can keep hay for a long time and kind of stock up but nothing compared to people in cooler climates who can buy hundreds of bales at a time. I think I can fit about 60 in my little feed barn if I really stuff it full. Robin Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Feed for obese fjord
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com How big is a flake? The size of the flakes differ from bale to bale here, but currently one average 73 lb. bale lasts 2 1/2 days for 3 fjords with old Stella getting 6 lbs senior feed/day as well as hay. I'd guess about 12 lbs hay each for the younger fjords. And I thought hay was expensive here! Probably about the same right now at the feed store as yours, but was $350/ ton at the growers last summer or about $12.50/ 70 lb bale. Heaven knows how much THIS summer! I feed grass (Brome) hay. BTW, How did you get her exact weight at 1078 lb? LOL Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where green-up has started, hills turning green, but with a red flag fire warning! 60 degrees today! I feed my 1078-pound fjord mare a flake of grass hay morning and evening with 3 pounds of grass hay at noon. She also gets 45 minutes of pasture late in the afternoon, 2 carrots, 1 apple, and a mineral supplement. . Caroline Warren Chico, CA, where grass hay is $16.75/ 100#bale and temperatures are in the 90s (YIKES!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: horses and getting older
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Debby, Funny, I guess I have the ADVANTAGE of never having been married, got my first horse at age 50, now in my 70's, no family to help with them but GOOD close friends who are more than family, interested in horses, have horses also, I am like my friend's mentor. I essentially started over, retiring from my job with Alaska Fish and Game at 50. my job was also my social life so it was a big adjustment, but I joined the horse community and finally got what I'd dreamed about my whole life: Horses! Debby, go with YOUR dream and don't give up the horses, go find a dressage/driving group, a horsey town, LIVE your dream! You are quite young yet, you have lots of years to enjoy your horses! I know there are others here on this list who have done this, I could even give you a couple names, but maybe they will speak for themselves. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where I heard thunder for the first time this spring! This message is from: Debby debby.s...@earthlink.net I'd been the one to ask this question. I've lost too many ponies in the 30yrs. of having them. Some I've held on to too long as I wasn't strong enough to let them go. Some I had no choice. Kept them out of pain until the vet could put them down. Either way, its hard. For me itâs the most grief, compared to losing family members. Maybe some won't understand that statement. But I've not much family, lost a lot of them, and truth is, my ponies were who I went to when the human family members caused me pain and sadness. Humans can be so mean. Horses are honest. Its like someone said, give and get respect and along with that comes love, unconditional. Some of us haven't much choices now as we start getting some age on us. Some have health, some have family who no longer what to deal with the horses, want them gone. Some have left us alone to deal with it. A lot is economics, losing ones home. With me its moving on by myself, at 58yrs. of age and wondering whats the right thing to do. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: horses and growing old
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I kept old Bjarne for about 8 years beyond his serviceable years: He had arthritis, needed joint supplements and pain relievers (Devils claw and Yucca) as well as senior feed to keep his weight up. He finally died of Kidney failure at age 36. He was the most expensive horse to keep, yet I could not do otherwise! I still have old Stella, age 35 this year: She gets senior feed and hay, doesn't seem to be suffering from arthritis, but I do not ride her, would only put a small child on her. She is in great shape: I will keep her to the end also. I can watch my horses from my front window, watch them play, and watch them all stretched out on the ground sleeping in the sun. I can smell the horsey odor of manure thawing in the spring warmth and will soon get out on my little tractor and clean up the corrals (when they have thawed and dried out enough.) My Fjords whinny and nicker when they see me and nuzzle me when I feed, it gets me out in the mornings and gives me a purpose for the day even when it is -30 degrees! A friend here with two fjords called me in February crying because her husband wants to get rid of their fjords as the winter chores are becoming too much..I told her I and close friends would take them and give them a good home and she would still be their owner and could come see them anytime. I guess we are crazy, but I would feel terrible to see those two Fjords go to bad homes. What do we do with unwanted horses in Alaska? Well, the dog mushers will take them and that is usually a humane end, also they will take a horse that dies if they do not have a lot of drugs in them. We can euthanize our horses and bury them on our own property here. Some friends have buried 5-6 horses on their property over the last 30 years. But there are a lot of old horses here, passed along to younger kids, loved and cherished. It is expensive to bring horses up here, so maybe that is why there are so many old horses still around1 Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny but cool this morning: will get to 55 degrees today. Yet some are casually passed along like a disposable appliance, from pillar to post. If you can no longer keep your horse, because of the three-D's (death, displacement, and divorce) make double darned certain they land well in their new circumstances. (not in a slaughter house). Even if you have to give them away. (no, I am not giving horses away =)) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: WHEN I AM OLD...............
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Good Grief! You youngsters! I got my first horse ever at age 50, and jumped in with both feet with a pregnant mare and an older gelding to ride (All Fjords of course!) Now the foal I saw born is 25 this year (Do the math...I don't like to think about MY age) I have had one knee replaced 5 years ago and the other one needs it but not 'till this winter!) I intend to ride this summer, but should have someone around, which is hard as I used to ride alone all the time! I wake up at 5:00 AM because I can't seem to sleep any later, feed my horses three times a day, but have a friend pull out the heavy 73 lb hay bales for me. I won't give up! My old gelding that I got to ride when My mare was pregnant died last year at age 36. Bjorken's Mom is now 35 but still going strong, but I don't ride her. I might lead around little Kid on her. so It's Mind over matter! Keep on riding! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska 50 degrees, leaves popping out! ** When Im An Old Horsewoman I shall wear turquoise and diamonds, And a straw hat that doesnt suit me. And I shall spend my social security on red wine and carrots, And sit in the alley-way of my barn And listen to my horses breathe. I will sneak out in the middle of a summer night and ride the old dun gelding across the moonstruck meadow if my old bones will allow. And when people come to call, I will smile and nod as I walk past the gardens to the barn and show instead the flowers growing inside stalls fresh lined with straw. I will shovel and sweat and wear hay in my hair as if it were a jewel. And I will be an embarrassment to all, Who have not yet found the peace in being free to have a horse as a best friend. A friend who waits at midnight hour With muzzle and nicker and patient eyes For the kind of woman I will be When I am old. Author Unknown * This brought tears to my eyes and I'm only 47. Thank you for this very enlightening subject. I have imagined my mare I both old together and it's such a sweet and terrible vision. -- Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
effects of acidic drinking water on horse health
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Interesting discussion and information on how pH of drinking water can affect a horses health and energy! http://esiforum.mywowbb.com/forum1/975.html Dr. Deb Bennett: When horses are compelled to drink water that tests acid, they will have difficulty absorbing minerals and electrolytes from the gut, as well as certain nutrients and vitamins. This unbalances many body systems, and will commonly result in cow-flop poos and other problems such as tying-up and exercise intolerance/fatigue after exercise. On the other hand, water that is too alkali can also be harmful. What you want is for your animals to be drinking water that pH-tests just a little on the alkali side of neutral. Neutral pH is 7.0, so you want the water to test from 7.25 to 7.5 on the pH scale. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, in the midst (depths?) of Break-up: Mud, slush, ice and thawing manure! will be 50 degrees today, maybe hit 60 next week! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Ring Bone
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com So do you think there may be a genetic connection to early arthritis in some Fjords? Maybe it doesn't get noticed as much due to their stoic nature! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Where spring has finally sprung with temps in the high 30's to low 40's and it is going to get MESSY! It has been a LONG, COLD WINTER! )Personally, through being involved in this breed for quite a while (20+ years) as a breeder and in observing and listening to other owners/breeders, I have a nagging suspicion that in our fjord horses, there are many who are afflicted with arthritic changes, some very early on. As a layperson I am certainly not qualified to nail it down one way or another as to genetics/enviroment+use, but I bet if there were a way to anonmously report on this, say through an online survey, the numbers might be significant. This may sound wierd, but I have thought it would be very interesting to do on-site, digital x rays of the lower leg at an evaluation - again anonymously, but have a radiologist(s) take a good look at them and give an opinion to the Eval Comm.Back to the real world now. . .Karen in central Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Clicker training
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Since others have mentioned Clicker Training, I'll mention Alexandra Kurland who wrote several books and has made a series of videos on Clicker training. go to Alexandra's website: http://www.theclickercenter.com/ Her first clicker training book, Clicker Training for your Horse was published in 1996. It was edited by Karen Pryor and published by her company, Sunshine books. This was the first reference on clicker training horses. It has been followed by two more books and The Click That Teaches DVD lesson series. The books and DVDs are designed to compliment one another. They take you systematically through a very detailed and comprehensive training program. It's fun and something you can do when you can't ride. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cold again,-10F H And, OK, I just can't resist one more thing: since you said, I am most interested in having a great relationship and interesting activities with my horse... you might want to look into clicker training. It is great fun. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjord blood values
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Cheryl, My Fjords have always had low red blood cell counts, and I believe that is normal for them. I have a reference somewhere that gives RBC averages for various breeds and draft horses generally do have low normal levels. Keep in mind that Red Blood Cells are stored in the spleen and when the horses is excited or puts out a greater effort in exercise (race horses, for example) the spleen supplies extra red cells. If the blood sample is taken when the horse is excited quite likely the Hematocrit will be a lot higher than when he is calm. From an article in THE HORSE: Many racehorse trainers rely heavily on repeated measurements of certain blood parameters for assessment of fitness and readiness for racing. In particular, red blood cell count, hemoglobin concentration, and packed cell volume (all indicators of the horse's capacity to transport oxygen in the blood) are measured on a routine basis. While it is true that exercise training is associated with small increases in these indices, resting values for red cell count and hemoglobin concentration cannot be used to assess fitness and are unreliable for prediction of the horse's capacity to transport oxygen during exercise. Up to one-third of the horse's red blood cells are stored in its spleen; this red cell reservoir is pumped into circulation at the onset of exercise, providing a tremendous boost in oxygen-carrying capacity. Thus, only blood samples taken during exercise can serve as a reliable indicator of total red cell numbers. Hope this helps! Jean in balmy Fairbanks Alaska, will be +30 again! Hi List My fjord gelding had a routine blood panel drawn with his wellness visit. To the vets and my surprise, his red blood cell count was a bit on the low side (RBC 5.66) which she considered borderline anemic (normal 6.18-9.53). Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjords
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com About the Fjord Neck: All horses have Seven Neck vertebrae! Long necked horses just have longer vertebrae, Fjords have shorter vertebrae! actually that may make their neck easier to bend! The giraffe has 7 vertebrae, also I believe,. It is the muscling on the Fjord neck that makes them so strong...But trained right they can do it all: Oh, not EVERY Fjord can do everything as some are more athletic than others, some are more drafty, etc, etc. Look for good conformations, a middle of the line model, not too drafty not too light boned, general purpose style! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the sun is shing and it IS warming up! about -20 at mid day And that neck on these fjords, once they know they have that, itâs a hard thing to take control of. I was fortunate in that Lang never used his neck nor grabbed the bit. Amber, when she was younger and her stifle mended, she knew she had that strong neck, and she used it against you. She is the sweetest on the ground and loves to give and get love, but on her back, she gets spooked or scared, or even just decides she is going back to the barn, itâs a struggle. Ynde, she could be that way, but I learned to watch her eye when lunging her on the lunge line, and to always keep her close in a certain area, always a step ahead of her thinking, as they are a thinking animal, they have to be. I think its the nature of the horse, all horses have to stay a step ahead, its called surviving. I guess thatâs where we have to hope we can earn their trust, and its not always easy. A horse is a horse. take care. Debby Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjords vs others
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com The gal who trained Bjorken and Adel trained big warmbloods and thoroughbreds for dressage. She was really scared of the power my Fjords had, said she could easily muscle the other horses she trained, but was scared of the powerful neck and all over power of the fjords should they decide to take off on her! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -50 degrees, and thick icefog, zero visibility in town. Then I also pay a girl to help me keep my horses exercised. Twice a week she comes here to ride my horses with me; 2 Fjords and 1 QH. My older QH is retired. Last week I asked her if she would want to own a Fjord if she could. The answer was a resolute NO!! She loves the quiet disposition of my Fjords but would still prefer Glider, my youngest QH. When I ask her why, she can't really explain. She thinks it has something to do with their strength, both mentally and physically. There's a little bit of fear I guess for the enormous power that a Fjord represents, sitting there right under your but. A little Hummer in stead of a Volkwagen. The idea that if this short-necked creature ever wanted to take off on you, there's nothing you can do about it. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjords and all the others.......
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I was also 50 when I got my first Fjords! Like you I like to trail ride at a slow pace, meander around, Just enjoying My big Bjorken who I saw born and raised. He is my buddy, never objects to leaving the others because I was there when he was born! A good walk is the best gait to provide physical therapy for the rider, by the way! Jean in COLD Fairbanks, Alaska, -50 I was in my 50's when I got my first horse.a Fjord. Olaf died young from an aortic tear. My second horse is a Fjord, Windy Acres Monty. All of my friends were telling me that with my age (in my 60's, back injury), that I HAD to get a gaited horse. Many of them have gone gaited and then wonder why when they go to shows, even open shows they do not place, or place well. I do not show. Monty and I walk, we meander, we both enjoy the scenery and while it takes us much longer to complete a trail ride, we both enjoy it. He doesn't shy from much, and is curious about new things. While I do not use his talents to their full, I wouldn't trade him for anything! I love his personality and trust in memy vet loves his mohawk and friendliness and the farrier loves his great feet! Neighbors love him and he adores little kids. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Horse trailer scam?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Hey, You Fjord folks in Florida, maybe you would want to check out this Horse trailer add I found on Craigslist! I think it is a scam, it is too good of a deal! http://fairbanks.craigslist.org/grd/2703851832.html 2007 Cherokee Signature Series Weekender Horsetrailer - $5800 (fairbanks) when I googled 2007 Cherokee Signature Series Weekender Horsetrailer - $5800 I found it listed in several craigslists around the country! I emailed the person and got this email back: * Hello and sorry for delay, Thank you for your interest in purchasing my 2007 Cherokee Weekender Horsetrailer, which is still for sale. The trailer is in excellent condition, no accidents, serviced regularly and the tires and brakes are in very good condition, very well maintained. I have decided to sell it for $5,800(shipping included) and the buyer will receive it with all papers and receipts that he needs to register it. Also you will have 2 days for inspection after you receive it This was my grampa's trailer but unfortunately he died 2 month ago and i need it sold fast because of my financial problems. I live in Lake City, FL and now it will be shipped from here. Please get back to me only if you are serious and want to buy it. Thank you Samantha Riley Well, what a deal, if it for real! Free shipping to Fairbanks, Alaska from Florida? As well as a great price for the trailer? So, Anybody near Lake City, FL? Want to check this out? Her email is Sam Riley riley.of@gmail.com I'll bet it is a scam! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, staying home today as it is -40 degrees out this morning! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky941
Re: RFD TV
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I watched this last night! It was great! I also recorded it, but I also have a copy on order from Rural Heritage Magazine. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, clear and cold, +10 this morning, with about 3 inches snow on the ground! I'll have to either clean out the garage or start plugging in the car!(Block heater warms up the engine.) This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter dwal...@tm.net The Midwest Fjord Horse Show that was held in July at the Kirkwood community College in Cedar Rapids IA this last July was on RFD TV yesterday AND IT WAS FANTASTIC! Kudos to JULIE CRAMER, Excellent job!! Way to go JULIE. The club, the show, the FJORD HORSE shined for 30 minutes! It was a pleasure to watch and I think very educational and great promotional tool for us to use as well. Only regret that they only taped one day! Would have loved to have seen more Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Anyone have experience with jaw infections or infected salivary glands?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Gail, Bjarne had a penicillin resistant infection in his shoulder, which resulted in an abscess. Have they cultured the bacteria from the abscess? The vet put a drain in the incision and I flushed it daily for two weeks until there was no longer any bacteria present. A drain would probably be helpful since it recurs when it closes up! they foreign object may well be a splinter of wood which would not show up on x-rays! Jean This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com We have a horse who stopped eating, and had a huge ulcer under his tongue, plus an abscess that opened and drained under his jaw, with the channel for the abscess going forward, toward his nose, toward the base of his tongue. We treated for over a month. The abscess channel was big enough that I could put my finger up to the second joint into the channel. I could feel bone on either side of my finger. All of the other tissue had been cleared out by the abscess. We thought we had him well, but he relapsed as soon as the abscess healed over. He is at the vet's now, awaiting anesthesia tomorrow AM to thoroughly examine his mouth and tongue, and then, probably another round of antibiotics. We found he needed antibiotics for anaerobic bacteria to get whatever the bug was. They X-rayed him today and could find no sign of metal foreign objects. They also did a barium injection into the abscess to see where the pocket went to. Experience and advice appreciated. The vets are trying, but are stumped. I am not wanting to take a 21 year old arthritic QH to a major vet hospital for this. Hoping we can figure something out without that. Apparently exploratory surgery is quite likely to end badly due to all the nerves, ligaments, etc, under the tongue. Jean Ernest...didn't Barney have some horrific infection that went on for a long time? Gail Russel. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Lars update
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com OH MY! Sh*** happens! So sorry about you accident, broken ribs are VERY painful! Makes me think of a friend here who took her horse to a wonderful Ken McNabb clinic and on the last day they got soaked on a trail ride! well, in the barn the LAST FIVE MINUTeS of the clinic, Mary's horse decided roll and she ended up with a shattered wrist which required surgery to put in a plate an screws, and the result was she was out for the rest of the summer! Hope you can pass the time watching good horse videos, and heal quick! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 70* The end result was four broken ribs, a broken collarbone, and a concussion. Terry says I landed on my head and shoulder, so without the helmet, I wouldn't be writing this. No surgery, but I have to stay down for 6-8 weeks. Can you say BOH-RING?? Terry got some impressive bruises from her emergency dismount, Pip and Lars got to graze and look at the sparkly ambulance, and I got to ride in a life-flight helicopter (but can't remember it). Just a fun day all around! That's the latest Lars report. There'll probably be very few over the next couple of months... Robyn Kevlin Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Problem need help Ideas
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I'm not questioning your worming program, but could it the movement of encysted worm larvae, emerging from the intestinal wall, at that time of year? just a thought, as the experts are learning that our standard deworming programs are not really working. Just another idea to throw out there! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, rainy and cool, of course it is Fair time! ~~` Duffers seems to colic each year around sept or oct. i feel it is due to weather changes which cause him to drink less. Each year we add a new solution. This year we will start adding mineral oil to his food each day for about 2.5 months. Vet suggested giving it a try. We are firm doers on the psyllium each month, we feed out of feeders and we have mats. This year we are also making sure we work him more to keep him moving , keep everything moving. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Lite Jenta
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I too was impressed with the mare, watching the video. So well trained, too. I agree with you about the Anvil's Fjords! They imported some great mares and stallions, Rudaren certainly was one of the best. Then they bred Rudaren daughters to Leidjo, another great stallion they imported, to produce some outstanding Fjords that can really perform!. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the Fair is starting today and of course it is raining! When I pedigreed searched I saw why she looked/acted like the way she appears - by Anvils Rikoll by RUDAREN. Along time ago I praised Orville and Anita Unrau for their breeding practices and always said anything with the ANVILS prefix is a good horse. .. Glad to know there are still some ANVILS out there. Someday NFHR should create an Outstanding Breeders Life Time Achievement Award Orville and Anita would win hands down. With respect Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: BUCK a documentary film
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Jeez, Jerry, I've been following Buck the Film www.buckthefilm.com/ (also on Facebook)for weeks, ever since the film won the Audience award at at the Sundance Film festival. Just reread Buck's two books, have watched many of his DVDS. Been trying to get the film up here in Fairbanks, but may have to wait for the DVD. It has gotten great reviews! Check out the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/BUCKFilm Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly sunny and 70 degrees today! Hi Folks, Just a heads-up on a horse training film now playing in select theaters for a couple more days only. Check out the trailer. I am going again to see it for the second time ,tonight. Notice ,he does not wear spurs! I thought the message was very powerful. The music alone is worth the price. This film is really not advertised, I found out about it though a friend. -- Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: high heat and humidity
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com When I was a kid growing up outside of Cleveland Ohio, we sometimes had summer temps of 95 degrees and 90% humidity...they didn't talk about heat index then, but that would have been 150! Unbelievable! I used a chart: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/learning/resources/activities/bison/seasons3.phtml Jean in sunny and comfortable Fairbanks, Alaska, 70 degrees, 45% humidity today In the article she mentions the heat index as a base to see whether your horse is in danger of heat exhaustion. This morning the humidity was 97% and the temp was 73, total that together and you get 170 as a heat index. This is way too uncomfortable for me and the Fjords. Yesterday they spent the day in our barn, cool and out of the heat and the bugs. We did not have a fan going because the barn is situated to catch any breeze that comes along. None of the horses were sweating, just standing in their stalls. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: 5 1/2 western bit?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I have both the Myler butterfly driving bit and the elbow driving bit with the solid low wide port mouthpiece and my Fjords love them... tried the 6 elbow bit with their jointed roller barrel mouth, and, yes it was too squiggly for Bjorken. I like the shape of the solid mouthpiece., can get them in about any size, draft sizes from Big Horse Feed and Tack Jean in rainy (again) Fairbanks, Alaska, where today's rain makes 4. STOP ALREADY! Bonnie, I agree w/ Jo, Myler bits are pretty size accomodating - my mares go very well in thier med port curbs, but I don't like their independent or multi-moving bits where the cheek and shanks each move separately. Too many confusing signals. My dear old broke-to-death in the bridle stallion Sven HATED that squiggly Myler bit (custom made driving bit). He just about sat down on me in protest. Guess I am old school, but the loose jaw (shank) is about it for me. As for a shanked snaffle, IMO, yuk. I would avoid this type of bit entirely. Karen in HOT (finally!) central Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: safergrass.org
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Here is the link to articles on the Safergrass website: http://safergrass.org/articles.html Lots of good articles, FREE to download,nor read on site. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warmest day of this spring, 55 degrees, lots of melting going on. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Death of Fairacres Sonja
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Dear Gwen, So sorry that you have lost your wonderful Fjord. But you made the right decision, so hard to do. Thinking of you, Jean My beloved, loyal and honest Sonja has gone from our lives. Gwenn Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Spring from a binary perspective . . .
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com HA HA Ha! Great! In my case, downloading has been very slow, a snail's pace, but steady. May be completely downloaded in another week and installed, hopefully, by May 1? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 40 degrees, gets down to 20 at night. The last snow just came down off the metal roof 5 minutes ago. Piles of snow all around, snow deep in the woods. Fjords dripping gobs of hair and now muddy, too messy to go in the corral to groom, no place outside corral to groom. Oh wellthey're happy! INSTALLING SPRING... ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ ââ 44% DONE. Install delayedplease wait. Installation failed. Please try again. 404 error: Season not found. Season Spring cannot be located. The season you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please try again.. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Spring greenhouses muddy Fjords
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I agree! It ain't fair! We have been melting here, water running, fjords muddy, etc and yes, still a couple feet of snow in the woods, then I woke up to 2 new snow today, and warnings about hazardous driving on all major highways, with 1-2 ft. new snow and high winds in the mountains between here and Anchorage. And I thought maybe spring was here, roads were finally getting rid of all that ice and were pretty dry, my driveway melting off nicely, now snowy again...Darn! Jean in snowy Fairbanks, Alaska, +30 degrees It ain't fair! We are sitting up here with the dregs of winter, and my horses are finding the nice warm manure piles to lay down on and look like dappled brown Fjords! Mud season is in full swing, the snow in the woods is still two to three feet deep and water is running everywhere! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjords at Waverly Auction
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I just looked at the flyer: Sue and Sally are NOt full sisters...birth date is listed wrong for oneThey would have had to be twins! S I looked them up on the Pedigree search: Sally's dam is Short Creek's Jewel, Sue's dam is Short creek Opal, (Both jewels, hence the confusion?), Non the less they ARE half sisters and look like nice fjords from the photo! Jean in sunny Fairbanks, Alaska , +30 today, after about -10 last night. Snow is slowly subliming (evaporating) I don't list on here but I thought I would let readers know about Fjords coming March 24th to the Waverly auction in Waverly, Iowa. The catalog is a PDF file and can be viewed at www.waverlysales.com. Pages74-76 list the Fjords. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: shoe issues
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Why don't you get some good boots, such as the Easy boots, if you want to go without shoes? Are his feet pretty flat? has he had laminitis? You may need at least the boots when you ride. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, more sunny weather, +25 during the day, -15 at night i took oz's shoes off a few weeks ago, with the hope of working through the ouchies so he can go without. he has always seemed to have sore feet, and has had shoes on for a long time. right now he seems quite uncomfortable in the indoor arena along the rail where the footing is harder. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Setting up a paddock
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Mary Ofjord - In cold sub-zero (wind chill today at around minus 33 degrees) northern Minnesota, where all the toxic plants are happily sleeping under the snow. Okay - Jean Ernest - I know you're going to come up with a lot colder temps. that will make me seem like a wussy - but for me, this is cold enough! I have to clean the barn later in the day anyway. Hi Mary, No, we have +10-15 today, little wind, expecting snow. BUT it is supposed to get cold this weekend again...-30 or so. no wind Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Setting up a paddock
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Oh C'mon, Steve, you know it rarely gets below -20 in Anchorage! So you have a Fjord mare down there? Who is she? (registered name?) Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we have COLD winters and WARM summers! Thanks to all for the advice on breeding an older mare. I have been enjoying the weather updates too. I would like to say it is -40 here (as it can be) ...but we are looking pretty cozy at + 30 today. We do have a steady 20 mph breeze blowing :) -Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Wide Dressage saddles on sale
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Check this out! Classic Saddlery has some great english saddles on sale! http://www.classicsaddlery.com/closeouts/toulouseparini.htm This one really caught my attention! Octavio in beautiful doubled black leather, soft, supple, breaks in immediately. This is a generous fit for broader backed horses. XX-wide will fit the almost impossibly wide horse. 17, 17.5 and 18 in wide, x-wide and xx-wide Retail: $1295.00 Sale: $999.00 with fittings CLEARANCE: $725.00 CLEARANCE W/ LEATHERS/IRONS: $799.00* Let me say I have no connection with this company, just thought you folks with WIDE Fjords might be interested! Jean in Fairbanks, Alask, warmed up to +4 this morning! Break out the shorts! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
More packing with horses in Alaska
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com This is an article about Icelandics rather than Fjords but will give you some insite about the rigors of Packing with horses here in Alaska. I know there were some criticisms of the way the Fjord in R5Sons Alaska was shown going underwater in the river with his pack. And maybe some of you heard about the two Icelandics that ran off and disappeared for five months in the wilderness, only to make their way safely back home. Anyway, here is more about one of the Collins twins' horses! I wish THEY could video their lives in the bush and put it on TV as a real reality show! http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/11092042/article-The-adventures-of-Dropi--dream-horse-but-not-perfect? And more on the adventures of the two lost horses! http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/10374930/article-Icelandic-horses-missing-for-five-months-find-their-way-back-home? http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/10648600/article-Wayward-horses-return-after-summer-roaming-Alaska-wilderness? I think our wonderful Fjords could have done as well surviving in the wilderness too! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -40 at the airport this morning, -30 here at home! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Electric horse fencing
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com You can run a ground wire on the posts parallel to the regular fence wires so that the horse touches both, getting a shock. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -38 at the airport, -28 here. Big inversion! warmer on the hills. am concerned about the charge for the electric fence...Is there another way that the fence can be grounded so the charge can go further...Also the fence is only at it's strongest when the ground is very wet...as it dries out it gets weaker and weaker...Does anyone know if I can put grounding rods in, say the 4 corners of the field? Or maybe in other locations besides where I have them concentrated by the box?? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Electric horse fencing
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com You can run a ground wire on the posts parallel to the regular fence wires so that the horse touches both, getting a shock. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -38 at the airport, -28 here. Big inversion! warmer on the hills. am concerned about the charge for the electric fence...Is there another way that the fence can be grounded so the charge can go further...Also the fence is only at it's strongest when the ground is very wet...as it dries out it gets weaker and weaker...Does anyone know if I can put grounding rods in, say the 4 corners of the field? Or maybe in other locations besides where I have them concentrated by the box?? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord on TV
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com it is just this particular show R5Sons Alaska ( I think it's called that). I am sure you can access their web page and decide for yourself; it's just not my cup of tea the way they go about promoting themselves and their lodge, again for reasons not really concerning this List. Well, it's a lot better than the Gold Rush show where a bunch of loser guys from Oregon come up to Alaska to make their fortune gold mining, forgetting about permits, regulations, and common sense! shooting a bear that wandered into camp, tearing up streams, etc. Or Sarah Palin's Alaska, where the Palin family shows how the rich live in Alaska, with their big motor home, big mansion on the lake, flying in Helicopters to a glacier , or rafting a wild river, all beyond the pocketbook of most of us. . As for Fjord related stuff in Alaska check out Sarah Donchi's web site: Funny River Outfitters: http://www.funnyriveroutfitter.com/ Now here is an opportunity for some good times with Fjords: guided trail rides, wilderness horse packing, transportation for hunters and campers, and carriage rides. Our experienced guides and horses are committed to providing you with a safe and memorable adventure into the Alaska back country. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -30 this morning! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
packing with Fjords in Alaska
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Now HERE is how you pack a Fjord in Alaska: http://www.funnyriveroutfitter.com/sarah%20boone%20horns%20rear%20view.jpg There IS a Fjord behind Sarah, facing the other way .. How do you like that rack? This Fjord knew how to maneuver that wide rack around trees without getting stuck! Check out some of her other photos on that page!http://www.funnyriveroutfitter.com/Photo%20Gallery.html Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: packing with Fjords in Alaska
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Sarah does have a man in her life who does it with her, but she really is rather incredible...and she isn't very big! She was holding down a full time job at Home Depot, traveling around the state to train employees..I met her when she came up to Fairbanks, she visits when she comes up here. I think she may have quit Home Depot to run her Funny River Outfitter business. I need to go down to Soldotna and spend some time riding with her! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com great photos...that gal is incredible. Does she do it ALL herself..sure looks like it!!! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: RFD TV // R5Sons Alaska
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Lisa, You crack me up! I think you could write a great script for that show! Most of these reality shows are scripted anyway! I think there is more reality in that show than some! Hey, don't ya know that all the young guys run around without shirts when temps get above freezing! I was wondering where the mosquitos were, however! A friend Of mine started a business, Alaska Bear guards, where he supplies trained guards to lookout and scare away bears at remote camps, such as surveyors,etc. He has a website and soon received a call from someone back East who wanted to produce a show about the bearguards and their DANGEROUS adventures. Since all the guys are over 50 he wanted call it the Old guards! and wanted to be sure to get some footage of bears, hopefully attacking! There hasn't been that much activity so far, so it is still in the works! Keep watching for the Great Bear Adventures, coming soon to your TV! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska . warmed up to -20 now: get out the shorts! Ha hahahahahahahahaah Jean ! As always you bring things into perspective. ( in case people dont know Jeanshe lives up in Fairbanks AK with her small herd of beautiful Fjords ) Jean, you mean that most tourests dont drop 42,400.00 into the economy up there for a hunting trip ? ( making that Rudolf the Reindeer she bagged a mere $ 141.33 per pound ) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: the Jenny Craig paddock
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Check out these! Hard sided feeders. You could build something like this. http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/Hay+Feeders+(hard-sided) Does anyone have the perfect solution? We want: 1. lowered head hay feeding, preferably on ground/floor 2. no sifting into the sand because Fjords will pick through the dirt for every microscrap 3. made from indestructible material but safe for stalls and paddocks 4. easy to fill Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Patrick
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I wonder if that comatose colic episode was a symptom of mild EPSM (NOT EPM, but Equine Polysaccharide Storage Myopathy) See Beth Valentines articles:http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/index.htm http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/epsm.htm ,http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/epsmsigns.htm Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska -40 degrees this morning. Fjords getting all the hay they want! My mare had a 4 day colic, she was in an odd comatose state, lead her somewhere and she would stand there all day, shut down from the world outside her. Did alot of Tellington Jones. Kept at it. On the fifth day she started coming around. The backhoe had been on standby. She cannot tolerate straight grain or molasses. She had gotten into a little little bit of sweet feed and that did it. We don't keep it on the farm anymore. Other animals can make do! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
brutal winter: was Anyone headed south..?'
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Ruthie, your brutal winter seems mild to us...-20 here today, was -30 last week. my Fjords are doing fine, old Bjarne,35 and Stella, 33, get their senior feed with joint supplements as a warm mash, Bjorken, 23, gets some too, but he is a bit too fat. They all are fat, and have a heated water tank for water. Plenty of hay. They do great here, and we have had much colder weather in other winters and I am sure will get some -40's before it is over. Not much wind, tho so that IS a big factor. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with cold -20's after the freezing rain and ice storm two weeks ago. Winter has been brutal thus far.. has been down to zero even! Up to 20* today and a big improvement! Fjords here fare well, but I hate the extreme cold on account of the seniors especially-- Teal and Odie are both 21 yrs now.. just does not seem possible. Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I don't blanket mine and I live in Fairbanks, AlAska. They do not live in stalls but live together in a large corral/paddock with a Run-in shelter. They grow their own coats. I don't clip them either so don't need blankets Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska This message is from: Moira Sambey moirasam...@hotmail.com Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fjord Feeding Now
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com So how big is a flake: are they consistent? what weight? And what kind of hay? I have found that flakes vary in thickness and weight from bale to bale. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska , still moderately warm for October at 55 degrees! I feed 3 flakes a day with no pasture time two flakes day with up to 4hr of pasture time. One must take into consideration that my pasture is just the rather poor type lawn grass mostly weeds. She seems to thrive quite well on this, but then she is not a hard working Fjord. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fjord Feeding Now
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I have two Fjords that are 33 and 35 years old and to keep weight on them I have to feed them Nutrena Senior Life, about 5-6 lbs daily to Stella, 33 and about 4-5 lbs to old Bjarne, 35. Both started to lose weight dramatically about age 28 when on the mostly brome hay only diet, and my farrier suggested I feed the Senior feed as they weren't able to get the nutrients out of the hay like they did when they were young. I now feed the senior feed plus joint supplements and about a cup of Omega Horse shine, a stabilized flax supplement and I feed it wet, as a soft mash. Both had their teeth done by a good horse dentist, and still have all their teeth, but they are worn down pretty well, but they still eat hay very well. The dramatic improvement in their condition when I added the senior feed make me hopefull that they may live a few more years! Old Bjarne already has a beautiful thick coat, as he has always started to shed his summer coat the day after summer solstice and now has a coat thicker than some fjords down south ever get. When it is extremely cold here I increase the hay, but not the senior feed. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, 45 degrees today. I might mention that we NEVER feed sweetened grain either, which is the equivalency of feeding children a steady diet of candy. (junk food) Plus, sweet grains mold very easily, and moldy grain, or hay, can be DEADLY for a horse. Sometimes the grain appears okay as the mold is not yet discernable! We do occasionally feed straight oats, youngsters, working, elders, but not routinely for every Fjord. Nature's fare, and exercise, is usually always better, as we humans are discovering more and more. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re:
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com There are many breeds of horses that have the dun color gene..Phil Sponenberg has written several books on horse color genetics. The zebra dun color is common in certain herds of mustangs, the Sorraia is dun with a dorsal stripe and zebra markings also, and dun colors are found in quarterhorses. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska , Tarpan (Heck Horse): I thought Fjords were the only horses with a dorsal stripe running through the mane, making it bi-color. I just read that Tarpans also have dorsal stripes that give them bi-color manes (they are dun, and the stripe runs down to the tail). There are pics and everything. What's the scoop? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: my Lang
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Oh Debby, I'm so sorry! Don't think about what you could have, should have done, It'll only hurt more. You did the best you could. I pray that your heart will heal and you can find another special horse. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska I lost my Langster yesterday. We'd started battling white line fungus found in one foot, one foot!, in March. Had been hauling him to a vet/farrier an hour from us. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: skeeter control
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Another thought: Pour a little vegetable oil on the water: then larvae cannot breath! vegetable oil such as Canola or corn oil will not be toxic to the horses. Jean in Fairbanks, AK Hi, I'm in need of something to kill the skeeter larva in my stock tank. Any suggestions will be welcome. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: skeeter control
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Hi, I'm in need of something to kill the skeeter larva in my stock tank. Any suggestions will be welcome. GOLDFISH??? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 70 degrees Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Musings
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Watching the TV program The Last American cowboy on Animal Planet, the Hughes family is putting their kids on horses WITHOUT A HELMET!!! Yikes! I keep shouting at the TV, Where's her helmet?, Put a Helmet on that kid! Western riders seem to think they shouldn't wear helmets! I have had my gentle, well broke Fjord stumble and go down on his nose pitching me over his head, landing on MY headI had my helmet on! Thank Goodness! Several years ago a young girl was helping her father worm their horses, one of which ran over, and kicked at the horse they were working on: He hit the girl in the head instead and she was killed: No helmet. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 70 degrees today. Check out Lisa Pedersen's newest article on the NFHR.com website. From the homepage, scroll down to the bottom and you'll find her link there. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Ataxia
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com West nile virus? Have you had him vaccinated? EPSM? (NOT EPM) http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/epsmsigns_data.htm If EPSM, diet will help. Sorry to hear of his problems, he was doing so well! Hope he gets better. Jean inFairbanks, Alaska  Henry Fjord has currently been tested for EPM, Equine HV-1 and he had x-rays done of his cervical area. He has now been graded as Grade 3-4 Ataxia (incoordination) and is considered to be a âdanger to humansâ based on his incoordination and risk of falling (I'm not in agreement with this statement from my vet, at this time - but will leave it at that. I am surmising it is her liability disclosure statement).  Vets have given their thoughts that it could be:  1. EPM or early stages of EHV-1 (recoverable stage?) 2. Wobbler's 3. Trauma to the Cervical area. They were not certain on any of them, just stating that his symptoms are clinical signs of any of the above. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
SCAM ALERT! Re: My Horrible Experience ..........
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Don't send any money! This is a scam! Someone hacked her computer! This message is from: Onna Kulaja onnak2...@gmail.com I'm writing this with tears in my eyes. I came down here to London, United Kingdom for a short vacation unfortunately I was mugged at the park of the hotel where I stayed, all cash, credit card and cell phone were stolen off me but luckily for me I still have my passport with me. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Stalls or turnout
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Phil Odden posted: As I travel around the country looking at Fjords I see quite a few that are far too heavy. It takes effort to keep most Fjords in proper shape. The easiest thing to do is to just let them eat all they want. Many people do not want to have the weight of a ridder on their horses until they are fully mature and I agree. But they are willing to have their young stock much overweight so that the young Fjords are carrying far too much weight for their immature bones and connective tissue all the time. I was at Libby one year and proudly showing photos of my 3 year old tall gelding to a well known Fjord person and was surprised when she commented on how thin he was: was he sick, she asked? he is so thin! THIN? Well he didn't have a big belly and was tall and lanky, but no ribs showed! He was growing! He grew to 15-2, is now 23 and never had a lame day. His mom is a slimmer type, too. A lot of so called Drafty fjords are just too fat in my opinion. Jean in rainy Fairbanks, Alaska, but I have hay in the barn! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fluffy fjords
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com You're feeding Strategy and oats? How much? Just curious! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska overcast and a bit of smoke, 70 degrees I find it curious too, that my new vet who was into Arabian horses in his past, thought my fjords could stand to lose a little weight (cut back on their Strategy and skip the oats), when the following week my experienced horse friend who rides Hanoverians met my mare (the chubbier one) and offered her unsolicited appraisal that Mirakel looks like a good weight. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: thunderstorms, turn out, stalls, caution, etc.
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Define turnout! I consider my Fjords turned out 24/7 because the four are together in a very large dry paddock as I only have a small one acre pasture and a smaller paddock with a little grass. They wander around together in the dry paddock, head for the run-in shed when it rains hard, and may get 2-3 hours in the one acre pasture in the summer. They are not kept in stalls, except the seniors (33 and 35) get to eat their bucket of senior feed mash in the stall for maybe 1/2 hour. they move constantly, except when they are dozing in the sun. I don't stall even in the winter with temps as low as -40-50 degrees, but they will stand together in the shelter which raises the temperature at least 10 degrees. Fluffy? well, yes, a bit! Jean in Fairbanks, still 20 hours daylight, will be 75 degrees today Hey Eric, great thoughts! Ditto on hobbles from over here...just wondering though, how do you keep your Fjord from fluffing up if it is on permanent turnout? Mine are out 5 hrs daily and they are quite, um, fluffy... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Stellalite?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Is Stellalite the horse you are talking about? BTW, How is Sander doing, did you get any Pics? Can you send me the picture of him that you posted on BAEN When he came through? Oh, another thing, Ray Hunt is dead, so are the Dorrances. Who is coming to Colorado in May? Buck Brannaman? Jean That horse is an absolute softy compared to the horse I am retraining and even with her I do not have to go to that extent and never will, as I have stopped sat back and thought laterally about what would be the best and most harmonious way to achieve what I need from her. Just because its not written in your system dosent mean the horse should suffer in the slightest for the good of the lesson plan. h Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
retractable lunge lines
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I HAVE a retractable LUNGE line for horses, bought some years ago, I don't remember where I got it. Haven't used it in years, tho. Jean in Fairbanks, Alasak , light snow and +5 was +35 yesterday! And on another note. I use one of those retractable dog leashes for lunging. I have the largest heavy duty one that only cost $20 or so. I never could keep from getting tangled in the extra lunge line, so now I just reel her in or reel her out as needed. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: young ones and old ones
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I wonder how old the oldest living Fjord is now? I have old Bjarne, registered C23 in the Canadian registry, he is 35 this year. My mare Stella II, N-14138, C-120 is 33 this year. What is the oldest registered in NFHR still living? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +40 today Mike sent Thor's registration papers from Bauer's registry. Thor is my big old boy that I thought was 30 and turns out to be a young 25. No more sympathy on the poor old pony routine. Why, he is a youngster! Bjorne, (D) Thor's older brother would be closer to 30. Bjorne was always the leader, I loved him alot, all the escapades he took me on, and he loved to jump and get Thor into trouble. Thank you, Mike. Hope Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: White star on white fjord ?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Hi Bonnie, Most of the white duns have a very light tan or cream color on their faces, darker towards their muzzle, so I think a pure White patch of hairs would be noticed if you looked real hard. The forelock might cover it, however. White duns aren't really pure white, either, more of a wool colored or cream color. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +10, partly cloudy today This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com White Star Hi Patti I have a white Fjord Ironwood Lordalen and I was wondering how you can see a white star on a white horse that does not have pink skin? Is it not just the white hairs from being white? And not really a white marking? Just wondering. Thank you Bonnie Morris Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #219
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com My question is why wasn't there a salt block available before now? I alwaly keep a salt block available. I use the Trace mineral without selenium or a white salt block, as old Bjarne eats a lot of it and too much selenium isn't good, but I feel salt is necessary to keep them drinking ENOUGH water. It may be that he was salt starved, and so has been eating a lot of it, but with it available all the time will moderate his intake. Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, -29 tonight, thank you, linda. it's a block in a feeder, so he can only reach the top. there are two other horses in the pasture with him. he's obviously been licking, but i will certainly keep an eye on him. he seemed to get over it the first time, so maybe it's just because it's new. it's not loose salt, which at least will be easier to monitor. laurie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
