Libby show cancellation
This message is from: "Sherrie Dayton" Good morning all, After 27 years the International Fjord Horse Show in Libby Montana has been cancelled. This show has been getting smaller over the last few years and with the small amount of competitors entered for this year's show we made the painful decision to cancel this year's show. PNFPG had already made the decision that this would be our last year in Libby as part of their Nordicfest celebration. We are actively looking for a new venue and date for a Fjord horse show in the Northwest starting in 2015. We'll keep you all informed and hope to see some of you in 2015 in a new location. Over the years Ron and I have made some wonderful friends that we only got to see at Libby and I'm hoping that we can all still get together in a new location, I have to say that this is bittersweet, I'm sad to see Libby end but an excited to see what we can do for the future. Hope to see you all in the future, Sherrie Dayton sunw...@jrcda.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjord Embroidery from Libby Show
This message is from: Betsy - Painted Ponies & Gifts Hello there Fjord Friends across the world, I wanted to post this so anyone who would like a piece of clothing (jacket, sweats, vests, polo & shirts) with our cool Fjord Flag design or our stylish Circular Fjord design from the Libby Show can get them. Here is my eBay link or email me with your questions. http://stores.ebay.com/1E-Ponies-Plus-Equine-GIfts/FJORD-HORSE-CORRAL Some are instock and I reorder weekly, so get some before the next group meeting and show it off. Cheers, Betsy Bauer www.fjordpony.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Libby show
This message is from: "Barb and Fred" Posting this from Michelle Noonan For those of you that can't make it to the Libby show you can help by Sponsoring classes! The cost is $20 for one class Sponsor and $35 for two, $50 for 3, $65 for 4 and lastly $80 for 5 classes. Checks can be made payable to the PNFPG and mailed to my address Michelle Noonan, 1196 Park Lane Stevensville, MT 59870 .There are 51 classes so we have PLENTY to be sponsored. Your name as the sponsor will be announced at the beginning of the class. Thanks in advance everyone! We have already had quite a few people sponsor classes that are on facebook but I don't think this went out to all the PNFPG members. Thanks, Barb Lynch Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: Karen McCarthy Jean I completely forgot about Orville's snafu. Knowing Orville it was all taken in stride. We didn't have any major problems that weekend. Hey if you have pics put them in a FB album & share the link, would love to see them. If I rememebr you were a hazard judge, right? One think I remember was driving cones on the baseball diamond, what fun! :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:59:34 -0800 > Subject: RE: Libby Show Memories > From: jern...@mosquitonet.com > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com > > > And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up > with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll > have to post the pics on Facebook or something. > > What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had > snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, > earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never > left.till spring! > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. > > > > >Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 > > (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE > > using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of > > our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still > > a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? > > Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and > > we're happy campers! > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Libby show memories
This message is from: "Gayle" This message is from: "ruth bushnell" This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" ursu...@gmail.com> Yes, thanks to a core group of dedicated Group members, the Show goes on. . Gayle Ware was always there with her infamous Dusty!! Brian Jensen ummm, I believe that would be "famous," as "infamous" definition is: a.. Well known for some bad quality or deed. a.. Wicked; abominable: "infamous misconduct". "infamous" is a more appropriate term for some humans. ..as far as I know, Dusty has always been an extremely well behaved and all around GOOD horse. I am also very glad that there are those who never gave up on the Libby show, shut it down, or move it elsewhere. Hi All, Ruthie, thank you for clarifying the definition of 'infamous'. I knew what he meant - at least I think I do - Brian I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS??!! LOL!! I, too, am glad that the Libby show still goes on. I was there when the show was conceived, went through it's labor pains, watched it struggle as it took it's first steps, watched it graduate into the, then, largest all Fjord show in the country. Those were the days - filled with really great times and many memories. I am really glad that there are folks willing to dedicate their time and energy to make the show keep on keepin' on. Gayle Ware - and - Dusty (who, by the way, is now 26 years young and still going like the energizer bunny. He still thinks going slow is for wimps.) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. >Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 > (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE > using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of > our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still > a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? > Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and > we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. >Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 > (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE > using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of > our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still > a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? > Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and > we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. >Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 > (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE > using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of > our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still > a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? > Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and > we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Libby Show Memories
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" Yes, thanks to a core group of dedicated Group members, the Show goes on. My first memories of Libby was a pairs class with Chip Lamb, Larry Boe, Orville Unrau, Ron Davis, the Frakers, and ourselves, the Jensen's. Libby has had many Unique Hitches shown there over the years. I remember seeing Tandems, Random's and yes Quadroms/4 singles, shown to the local crowd. As well there were many, unicorn, fours-ups, and four abreast plus a suicide hitch we drove which consisted of a tandem driven in front of a pair. Visitors from afar came through Libby like John Hegdal, Arne Presthus, and David Clove from Norway. Eike and Susie Schon-Pederson from Germany. I remember Dave McWethy arriving with his three abreast from travelling across America. We hosted the Hotovy's, Davis's, Giggarie's , Pederson's and of course Beth and Sandy from Colorado. Gayle Ware was always there with her infamous Dusty!! Libby has always been a shared show between Americans and Canadians which gave it an International flavor. The show grounds are family orientated suiting all kinds of classes. This year they had a full Trail Class in the bush behind the arena, and a mini CDE around the grounds. Lots of new ideas being tried. My thanks to all the hard workers and volunteers over the years. This is what memories are made of! I consider it a privilege to have been there. Brian Jensen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Libby Show
This message is from: "Barb and Fred" Karen McCarthy wrote:> Barb, would you be willing to let us all know how the Libby show was? Sure wish i could have gone but couldn't take time off... Karen and all, Libby was great this year as always. Such a good bunch of people. The show committee put together a really fun show. The classes were arraigned is such a way as to minimize tack changes. But still with a mix of ridden and driven classes each day. The mini marathon was a lot of fun with well planned route and good hazards. It all flowed well. There were ridden and driven dressage classes also. We had three unique hitches: Michael Sabatini's tandem, Dick Renfro's 4 abreast, and Ben Fenoe's unicorn. Good to see more unique hitches again. Of course we also had the usual Western and English classes and the normal Driving classes. Including Farm Hitch and log skid. We also had fun games like keyhole, barrels and poles for the kids and kids at heart (of which there are plenty!). Our judge this year was Terry Jones, a well known NW driving trainer and horse show judge. She did a great job. Saturday night we had our potluck and live auction. We raised quite a bit with the auction but I don't have that figure. It was great to visit with our "Fjord Family". Anyone who gets the chance to come to Libby will loves it as much as Fred and I do. Barb Lynch Lynch Fjords Benton City, WA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I cannot help with transport, but you might consider looking at the places Amtrak goes if there is an Amtrak stop (or bus transfer) near you. It is a safe way to travel, nice views, and not too expensive. (It helps if you get the ticket sooner rather than later.) Gail Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Libby Show
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello There. I am still looking for someone to help me transport Aurora (visitor from Norway) to Libby MT for the Evaluation and Show. I can drive her to any location near the I-5 from Days Creek to Seattle, WA on September 10th and pick her up on the 15th on my way back from Seattle. Is any one going from this area that may have room for a helper? Aurora already has a hotel room available to her. She will have money for food and so on. I am just looking for transportation. (I hate to put her on a bus. but we just may have to.) Email me or call me toll free 1-866-484-5141. Thanks Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - "The Horse Garden" & Hundehaven - "The Dog Heaven" www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-541-825-3027 Southern Oregon Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Libby show 2008
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, I sure hope that you're enjoying spring, here in North Idaho we're still dealing with the white stuff. I thought that I'd bring you all up to date on the progress of the Libby show this year. First of all the correct dates for the show are Sept 12th - 14th, 2008. The dates that were in the PNFPG Newsletter were incorrect, we had gotten some bum info at the beginning of the year. Most years the show is the weekend after Labor Day, however, this year since the 1st of September falls on Labor Day the Nordicfest celebration and our show will be the weekend after that. I apologize for any confusion or problems this may cause some of you. There is an Evaluation scheduled for the 10th & 11th, so any of you that might want to have your horses evaluated please let either myself or Dan Watanabe know and we'll make sure that you have all the info that you need. Our Evaluators will be Wayne Hipsley and Karen Maas, Karen will then stay on as our Judge for the show. All the show info will be posted on the PNFPG web-site for download soon. We will be using the NFHR rule book for the show so any questions please check there. We have put together a show that I hope everyone will enjoy with lots of variety and fun things as well as regular competition. We're grouping our classes better this year so there should not be as many tack changes as in the past. We'll have our pot luck on Saturday night after competition ends for the day, Dan is trying to put together a clinic with Wayne for Friday morning before he leaves. Keep checking the PNFPG web-site for updates and I'll update the digest every so often as plans come together. Have a great spring and summer, I'll see some of you in a couple of weeks at the PNFPG Spring Fling in Moses Lake. If you have any questions please contact me privately, Sherrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: NW Fjord show, Libby show & healing in the PNFPG
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This response is a very good demonstration of why the troubles seem to be stirring with in the group. Given the position of authority that chairpersons, president or any other board members or positions of a decision making body. A person in this position needs to be very fair and unbiased and balance in their approach to dealing with the membership of which makes the show. An individual that makes the comment of it being his show seems to me to be a bit more than objective. And the statement of only being able to function at full throttle seems quite unbalanced as well. It only seems that a better process needs to be implemented in the representation of all members and the people put in place that will listen to its members and negotiate on their behalf. Sincerely Bonnie Morris ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: NW Fjord show, Libby show & healing in the PNFPG
This message is from: "Teressa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for that David. I didn't know the "back story" that the original idea was to move the show. However, the motion and the vote and discussion at that fall meeting was to add the Moses Lake venue - there were a few choices - I think 3 - as to open slots but the August date was decided on by a membership vote. It was a great show, well attended, good venue, lovely people - the fjord world is lucky to have you. Teressa The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: NW Fjord show, Libby show & healing in the PNFPG
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi David, The root problem may be that the Moses Lake show was originally PLANNED to replace the Libby show, as you point out. This means that the venue was located in fairly close proximity to the Libby show, and the show was designed to offer pretty much the same things the Libby show offers. Although the uproar this caused has died down somewhat over time, and with the revised plan to sponsor both shows this year, the issue remains that the Moses Lake show could still defacto kill the Libby show if it has to draw most of the same people in order to survive. Assuming the two shows continue to be run side by side, only time will tell whether the Libby show, or the Moses Lake show, or both will survive. The outcome is hard to predict, and I am certainly in no position to do that. I do know that many people are trying very hard to do both shows this year to try to patch up the rifts from last year and, I assume, keep Libby from dying. In time, people will not be able to make that effort. Then the success of both shows will hinge on how much demand there really is for two Fjord show venues in the west at the general latitude of Libby and Moses Lake. I agree that June is a problem date, and I agree that July is probably just TOO HOT. (Trust me, until you have had hot flashes, you just do not fully understand the meaning of TOO HOT! :) However, changing the DATE may not be the only option to avoid a direct conflict between the shows. As I tongue-in-cheek pointed out in my previous post, there is another variable that might be good for both shows...which is to do a second show in a geographic region that might draw from a wider areaand maybe even be cooler. Bend, for example? It would be cooler and further south. (See http://www.visitcentraloregon.com/listing.html?cID=22) And it might even be cooler in Bend in July, such that a show could be done then. Or maybe there is an arena in the Port Townsend area where it is cooler? Or further south along I-5. Also, there was a suggestion that the shows alternate years, or alternate where the evaluation is held. (It would be difficult, however, to alternate years for the Libby show due to the ties to and obligations to Scandifest.) Unfortunately, now that the momentum is moving in the direction of holding a show in Moses Lake, I understand that moving the show would not be simple. It will be interesting to see how Libby goes this year, and who of those who go to Libby this year feel they will still be able to go back year after year. Perhaps there is some way of doing a post-show "marketing survey" that would give an idea of the prognosis for successfully holding two shows (in Libby and Moses Lake) over the long run. If it looks like the long term prognosis is not good, maybe a change in the venue/date would be worth the effort. There is one final possibility.and that is that the club members feel that sponsoring two shows is really not viable and that it is not worth doing marketing surveys or making special efforts to try to come up with a second show date and venue that would help Libby/Moses Lake retain a critical level of the Fjord show market share. If that is the case, then I suppose whichever show is the "fittest" is likely to survive. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NW Fjord show, Libby show & healing in the PNFPG
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this is going to be a long post, if you don't want to see what I have to say just move on down to the next post and continue to have a nice day. I read the digest yesterday and was somewhat sickened in my stomach at some of the comments concerning the NW Fjord show versus the Libby show. Let me preface the rest of my comments by saying that I am speaking only for myself. The following are my thoughts, my ideas, my feelings, and my goals for the PNFPG and the fjord horse. For all of you long time people in the Fjord horse world, yes I'm a newby to your world, but at one point so were each of you. You each had dreams & ideas & plans to make your ideas and dreams concerning the Fjord horse come to fruition; So do I. This idea that some of you have that the NW Fjord show is out to destroy the Libby show is the farthest thing from my mind. I want more shows, not less. In fact it is one of my goals that the PNFPG sponsors the first all Fjord CDE in the not too distant future, but we'll see what happens with that as time passes. Now I need to back up here a little to set the record straight for some of you who seem to have selective memories or just haven't done your homework. A little over a year ago, Warren Riddle phoned Woody Hoops and said he was going to make a motion at the fall meeting to move the Libby show to Moses Lake. Yes, you read correctly, the original idea of the motion was to MOVE the Libby show to Moses Lake. As most of you know this created a lot of commotion in the PNFPG and a lot of animosity was directed at the Riddles for even proposing such a thing and all kinds of hurtful things were said and done...so be it. What most of you do not know is that this idea did not originate with the Riddles. I've done my homework and there were a number of people behind that idea before Riddles got involved. Warren just happened to be the one who stood up and said he'd make the phone call to Woody. At any rate: the group who was behind having a show in Moses Lake then decided to change their motion: That the PNFPG sponsor a second show in Moses Lake. Still lots of turmoil and nastiness among the members, very disappointing to me at the time. In fact it bothered me so much I seriously considered not even joining or getting involved with the PNFPG and this small minded and somewhat mean spirited attitude that seemed to prevail amongst it's membership. However, my wife wanted to show her Fjord so I decided I'd stick it out till the fall meeting and see how things went. Now, prior to the fall meeting I again did my homework as it seemed the dates for the NW Fjord show were going to be the big topic at the meeting. I canvassed several long time Fjord owners, mostly breeders, and found that without exception none of them would consider coming to a show in spring, (i.e. June) because of breeding season, foaling and lack of time to prepare horses for that early of a show. So having a show in June in my mind was out of the question if indeed you wanted to have the best of the best at your show. Having the show after school started was also something that was not beneficial to the membership as I found out in my questioning of the members at large. So, that left July or August. July is hot in Moses Lake. Temps in and or around 100 degrees and never cooler than 80 at night The first half of August is the same, but somewhere around the middle to late August the back of the hot season breaks and it might still be in the upper 80' & low 90's daytime, but begins to cool off at night, which is exactly what happened this year. Someone posted yesterday that the weather we had for the NW Fjord show this year was non-typical...I disagree. I spoke with all the workers at the fair grounds and several folks in town about the weather and they all told me this weather was indeed typical for this time of year. One other point of history that I want to share with you, just so we're all on the same page and maybe you'll better understand where I'm coming from: My wife and I made our first trip to Libby last year bringing our mare Penfrydd's Libby to the evaluation. I'd never done anything like that and really had no clue what was expected of my horse or myself. By the time it was our turn I was so nervous I thought I was going to throw up or pass out or both. The evaluators were great and got me calmed down and we did pretty well and Libby qualified for a blue ribbon in conformation. I was then done with everything I came to do, but Connie and I were staying for the whole show, just to see what the show world was all about. I went to 3 different people who were involved in the show, not once, not twice, but 3 times and offered both my wife and myself for help at the show if they needed it. The last person I went to literally (in my opinion) looked at me like I was an alien, mumbled som
Libby Show Expenses profit and Loss statement
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First of all I would like to thank Sherrie Dayton for the nice informative letter and profit and loss statement regarding Libby. After reviewing it I see the need for great discussion on this topic. The needs should be on how the monies are spent and what the best returns on the resources are. Some things were tried and they made money. Why were they eliminated in following years? This shows 9 years with no significant increases in revenue. I don't see any expense for an outside accountant and future planning to increase the support for this show. Poor organization of funds! How come there is only funding 2 years out of 9 for advertisement and a vet fee for 2005? Seems that there was an emergency and no vet around! These are just a few things that came to mind as I looked this over this report. With a little outside help and proper business plan I see no reason why Libby should not be very successful especially after 20 years. Seems to me that this topic of Moses Lake and a different show ground has really gotten this group off track what it should be looking at. What is the written plan for the group (besides bicker). Lets get the finances straightened out and pull in some real money. That way the group can grow and talk about adding more shows. Thanks Bonnie Morris To send a message to the other, much larger list send your message to: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Fred The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby show site. Do both
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In my opinion Libby is an absolutely great show. Leave the Libby show where it is. The Nordic fest is not going to follow us to Moses lake. Great people have put years & years of blood sweat and tears into making the Libby show what it is today. All great events have room to improve. Personally I may not make it to the show every year (weekends are our bread & butter or hay & oats) I am there in spirit and one day more in flesh. I am always happy to read about Libby and see the photos and dream of going again. We are outgrowing the Libby show grounds ability to contain all the buggies in one areana or practice area. Moses Lake does have more room I strongly encourage the Moses Lake Idea of a Spring show &/or clinic combination. There is defineatly enough interest to do both. If more energy was put into promoting more events, then riping apart the one great show we have.We'd be doing a better job of promoting fjords. Our mandate is to promote the fjord horse. Let's keep that focus in mind. Let us be thankful for all our wonderful volunteers. I personally want my cake and eat it to. Libby & Moses lake. Lauren Sellars Snowy mtn fjords www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby show site ..Response to Warren
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings to all PNFPG members from Warren and Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords. The following motion will be presented for a vote at the November 4 PNFPG meeting in Yakima WA: That the September 2007 International Fjord Show, sponsored by PNFPG, shall be held at the Grant County Fairgrounds in Moses Lake, Washington. As members, not officers of PNFPG, we, Warren and Sylvia Riddle, will bring this proposed motion before the members for discussion and vote. PNFPG meets only twice yearly to conduct business. At these business meetings absentee votes are not permissible under PNFPG By-laws. Warren>>> THAT sounds irregular? most bylaws make provision for a total membership vote on any kind of significant departation from the state of bylaw origin. Certainly the state level guideline for incorporating would include this provision, because many states frown on conflicted corporation takeovers, and might not this appear to be? (with only a minimal vote) In any case, provision or no, it only seems fair and upright in a proposal of this magnitude, to include the entire membership in the decision. Not doing so could lend the appearance of rank piracy, and ruffle many feathers. The rise and fall of successful shows have a delicate balance that can be easily tipped, we just attended the annual Sandpoint ID Draft horse show and were dismayed to find it only a quarter the size of a few years ago! Not sure why, someone suggested increasing ingrown management (no outreach). It seemed like many regular show horse participants were there, but not near the exhibitors nor the spectactors. When it comes to making sudden MAJOR changes in a show, we should perhaps proceed with discretionary caution and some careful planning. I suggest research into other horse shows that have made bold moves, and additionally garnering the majority support of the ENTIRE membership. Ruthie, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Libby Show - sorry long -
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All, I was at Libby. I did not see the "practice the pattern" barrel racing in the arena, however heard about it because the people I traveled with were in the arena and/or near by and they were frightened by the horse and the action that took place. (Reminder this is a 3rd person story, I was not there at that time) The lady asked if she could practice the pattern. The people I was with thought just that "practice", not run it. So they said yes. The lady and horse proceeded to do the pattern at a full speed with screaming and yelling at the horse to go faster. This did frighten the people I was with greatly. The horse was in their words out of control and they were afraid it would not stop. Now mind you one of the people that I was with is an experienced horse person, the others are just beginners. My own experience with the lady and 2 of the horses she was showing or working was at dinner time one of the first nights. There were 2 carts and 2 ladies driving at a very fast trot around the show grounds. Both horses had their heads high in the air and were avoiding the bit completely. These horses were asked to trot several times around the grounds at a fast trot like in the old trotting races in Norway. However, unlike the trotting races in Norway the heads were very high in the air and the horse were avoiding he bit. I requested from the 2 mothers of the children that were with me to keep their children in camp during this "exercise". I was afraid that the children would get into trouble if they stepped out on the road. I did not compete at Libby except for the one class where 2 drivers were needed. (well I did do costume class) I know the pleasure classes were extremely large in size. The show committee talked about splitting the classes up for SAFETY. The last time I was in a pleasure driving class at Libby there was an accident in the class. It was not a pretty one. I was not on the LIBBY show committee but have been on several in the + adult riding years I have under by belt. I believe the show committee considered all possibilities before requesting anyone not to compete in the pleasure driving classes. SAFETY was their main reason. This show had an accident in the past and they were trying to avoid one again. A horse that is avoiding the bit can be a dangerous horse. I believe the show committee did what they thought was the best for the whole of the group. What if this horse that was avoiding the bit got into an accident and the show committee knew about the situation but did not stop it from entering the classes where 17 other drivers were in and it crashed with others? Who would be blamed and at fault? No one can guess or predict a situation. The committee only could do what they thought was best at the time. They decided to the SAFETY side. We cannot condemn a show committee that is taking their job for SAFETY seriously. I know it is hard to comprehend and it is harder to train and go to a show and have a show official tell you not to go into classes due to safety. Bad new is hard to take. Long hours of training is hard to erase and is expensive to just brush aside. I can understand the frustration and the disappointment and the broken dreams. (Been there done that) Let us look at the positive. (I know Fred, you may not feel there is any) This subject has opened up many other subjects for discussion: (other than how can I find a saddle for my fjord?) 1. What is a safe driving horse and what is not? 2. Who at the Fjords show has the final say (Margaret Bogie's suggestions) What should be the process for grievances? 3. What is a safe number of drivers for an arena the size of Libby. (Should we have some sort of safety rule on how many should be in the arena at once?) 4. What is considered "practice a pattern" and what is not? 5. Who is responsible for safety in an arena? Driver? Owner? Trainer? Show Committee? 6. How can we insure our shows are safe good shows to attend and show in? 7. What makes a good trainer? How does one find a good trainer? What qualifications does a good trainer need to have? How can we get better trainers in our areas? 8. What makes a good driving horse? Is there a method to finding this out? 9. What equipment is the best equipment for the different classes in a show (like Libby?) 10. What rules and regulations do you want to see implemented at a show to insure SAFETY for all who are there? Now please let's talk about these one at a time... (smiling, like I can put order in this group... you all are so wonderfully different...) Fred, I feel for you. I did not understand why you pulled out of the whole show. I was not privy to the whole situation. I was busy juggling the 5 people that came with me and my 7 horses. I have to thank the show committee for taking a SAFETY point of view, though. (Hate me if you need to...) I would rather have a
Libby show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DATE:September 16, 2006 Greetings to all PNFPG members from Warren and Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords The following motion will be presented for a vote at the November 4 PNFPG meeting in Yakima WA: That the September 2007 International Fjord Show, sponsored by PNFPG, shall be held at the Grant County Fairgrounds in Moses Lake, Washington. As members, not officers of PNFPG, we, Warren and Sylvia Riddle, will bring this proposed motion before the members for discussion and vote.PNFPG meets only twice yearly to conduct business.At these business meetings absentee votes are not permissible under PNFPG By-laws.Therefore, it behooves the membership to consider and discuss this motion before our Nov. 4 meeting in order to express their views in advance or at the meeting.Those who attend the meeting can then vote their decision.The motion will be voted up, down or tabled at the discretion of the members present. The Riddles welcome and encourage polite, businesslike discussion on the pnfpg.org blog.In addition, any letter on this topic, mailed or e-mailed to PNFPG c/o Sylvia Riddle, Secretary, will be read aloud to the membership at the November 4 meeting The Riddles believe that while Libby has been a good, the Moses Lake, Grant County Fairgrounds worked extremely well for our Spring Fling last May and has demonstrated itself to be a more appropriate show location for the following reasons: *PNFPG membership-Over 70% of our members live west of Moses Lake and/or closer to Moses Lake than to Libby.That is why our PNFPG business meetings have been held in Moses Lake for many years.Numbers ofFjords (per NFHR pedigree records) indicate our future potential members are far more numerous west, south and north of Moses Lake.In fairness and logic the PNFPG show location should be far more central to the current and potential future membership than Libby, Montana. *Weather:Yahoo September weather statistics for the two locations are as follows: Libby âPrecip Avg 1.02TempsAvg 75Lowest 13Highest 105 Moses LakePrecip Avg.37TempsAvg 78Lowest 30Highest 106 With September average temperatures and record highs nearly identical, the real difference in the two locations is much more rain and much lower night temperatures in Libby.Many PNFPG members have experienced weather misery at Libby.Libby has weather protection for only a few of the horses and a small portion of the spectators.It has no protection at all for the arena, our participants and our show officials. The Moses Lake Pavilion arena protects participants and 1000 viewers with kitchen, meeting areaand bathrooms all in one building.Horses, feed and tack are protected in 350 barn stalls. * Show facilities â Libby has one outdoor arena with no room for any additional arena. Moses Lake has a large indoor arena and 2 nicely fenced outdoor arenas.All 3 Moses Lake arenas have bleachers.The Pavilion, large indoor arena, can seat an audience of 1000 and the horse portion measures 241â x 129â.The projected expansion budget of $12,000,000 in the next 3 years includes plans for more barns with stalls and 2 more covered arenas, smaller in size than the Pavillion.Currently Moses Lakeâs permanent barn stalls for horses include (330)10x10 stalls and (20) 8x16 stalls * Warm-up areas â In addition to the above, Moses Lake has an available empty race track and perimeter roads around the Fair grounds.At Libby, the open grassy fields formerly available for warm-up and Evaluations are now closed to horses and developed for baseball and soccer.In short, the Libby facility has shrunk relative to horses, parking and camping.There is inadequate room at Libby now and no room for growth. * Veterinarian â At the 2005 Libby show a Bonners Ferry vet had to be brought in for the VS check and a horse with colic had to be trailered to Kalispel.The Moses Lake Fairgrounds office has 12 local veterinarians on their call list. * Potential audience and new members -Libby is in economic downfall with loss of the asbestos mining and timber industries.Moses Lake has over 6 times the population with 1-1/2 times the average household income of Libby.In addition, there are nearly ½ million people within 1-1/2 hours drive of Moses Lake.Libby has advertised our show in their newspaper.Moses Lake will also, but additionally has a local Radio station. Last February a Clinton Anderson clinic drew a standing-room-only crowd in Moses Lake.The Fair office states they had a horse show booked in the Pavilion for every weekend from March thru July in 2006 and those included Quarter Horse, Mounted Shooters, Barrel Racing, Pony Show, Precision Drill Teams, etc. * Economics of the Show-The cost of a show at Libby or Moses Lake are identical for most expenses such as:judge, photographer, posters, program, ribbons, etc.Libby does not charge for the use of their outdoor arena.Moses Lake charges $400/day for their indoor arena.Class fees at Libby had been $7
Libby show and Evaluation
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Libby was wonderful and, as usual, added to our file of "adventure" stories. The first, worst, surprise was not being able to take our stallion, Erlend, to the Eval and Show. He seems to be recovering - good news. We appreciated the tons of support and concern from everyone at the show. Finally, I pinned a sign on my back that read, "Erlend is better, thank you for asking." We were hauling our friend Pat's gelding, Dan, and, since we had room in the trailer, we brought along Elvis, another gelding that Dagren Aarsten was hoping to sell for a client. Trying to get going on Thursday AM brought the usual comedy of errors. Dead battery. Lights on travel trailer not working. Heavy horse trailer window bonking Dagrun on the head and hand. [We will replace the latches] Once we got going the rest of the trip was uneventful. We set up next to the Watanabes where we had a good view of the arena. Solveig was pretty much over the moon after earning an 84 with OH Sadie in the Beginning Driving portion of the Eval. Good girls! I was delighted to see the large turnout - one of the biggest ever. An added pleasure was that so many new folks were showing. Our friend Pat [with the unpronounceable last name] won lots of ribbons with her boy Dan, in her first show ever. Dagrun also brought home many ribbons showing Elvis and Dan. Way cool! Reconnecting with Eike and his wife Suse was a real treat. Everyone loved his very informative clinic. Eike emphasized that Fjord people from other countries were very aware of and interested in what North American Fjord folks were doing and in what NFHR and separate breeders were aiming for in their programs. He also stressed the importance of developing a clear direction for what one wanted to accomplish with the breed. A particular highlight for me was seeing Greta Cook and Betsy Billeter winning first and second in Overall Equation. These women train and show their own horses with great success and deserve to be recognized for their accomplishments. You go girls! And then there was the Red Hat Stick Horse Drill Team. They sported Red and Purple hats and boas while executing complicated drills to thunderous applause! [Sorry not to have brought my red cowgirl hat, I wore red hair curlers instead.] I can hardly wait to see the video. Girls rule! Congratulations to all who took the time and effort to make this event big success. Bye, Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord
Montana VS outbreak and Libby show
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I felt that this information was so important that I am forwarding it. I was waiting for permission from Shirley, but have not heard from her. The PNFPG group IS on top of the situation and a Vet WILL be at Libby. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 -Original Message- From: Oscar & Shirley Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Montana VS outbreak and Libby show As some of you are aware there has been a confirmed case of vesicular stomatitis (VS) in the eastern part of Montana (Yellowstone county), and as of this morning the Billings area. This will adversely affect the Libby Show. Cases have also been confirmed in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona. Although generally not fatal in horses, it is extremely uncomfortable as it causes blister-like lesions that are located in the mouth, dental pad, tongue lips, nostrils, on the coronary bands, or on the teats. Horses are uncomfortable enough that they generally stop eating and severe weight loss usually follows. This can last several weeks as the infected animal heals. I visited with my vet, Roland Hall, this morning and it is his opinion that our show does not need to be cancelled. However there are travel restrictions in effect in the state of Montana. Those restrictions change (from state to state) depending on the origin of the horse, and I will be doing some research as to who and how these restrictions apply. We will have to have a vet on site to give health certificates to horses in preparation for leaving the state of Montana. Although I will continue to pursue this, at this time it appears those health checks need to come within 72 hours of departure. Health certificates bringing your horse into the state will not be accepted to get you out of the state. For information about this outbreak please visit the Department of Livestock web see at <http://www.mt.gov/liv> www.mt.gov/liv . Shirley
Re: PNFPG Newsletter & Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Listers, I hope you are all enjoying a fabulous summer with your fjords. Our next issue of the Fjord News Northwest will feature all your activities and stories of the summer and start of fall, including the Libby Show. Ursula and I would love to have you all send photos and stories that we can use in the newsletter. Remember, you don't have to be the Grand Champion of your shows to share your unique experiences showing and using your fjords. We are also interested in folks who have competed in open and local shows, driving events, parades, plowing matches, and such. Remember to send them to Ursula via e-mail in word format, photos in jpeg. We have lots of room for ads as well. As we are currently updating our membership list and have had a few names left off..please let me know if you haven't recieved your newsletters. We appologise for any problems and will correct them as we find them. Please let Ursula Jensen or Kathy Rollins know..our secretary, Sylvia Riddle, does not send out the newsletters so contact us directly..thanks:) I am in charge of organizing the raffle at Libby this year and I want to remind all our members to find, have donated, make, or buy items to help support the raffle this year. Even if you don't plan to attend the show it's a nice way to have your farm advertised and to help support the show. We welcome items or services of any kind, especially horse items of course! If you are not a member of the PNFPG remember that by becoming a member for only $20.00 a yr. you recieve 4 newsletters and voting rights as well as show entrant statis (must be a member to show at Libby). We would be happy to accept items from non-members. Please make sure that all items come to us with your farm name to be announced when each winner receives the items. If you need to ask questions regarding the raffle or items you wish to donate please call me at 1-(509)-276-7304 or e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . If you already have an item ready or know what you will bring..please let me know so that I may add them to our list. Thanks, Kathleen Rollins ps.all PNFPG memberships are due in September, the same time the Libby Show is on
Vending at the Libby Show
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, As a member of the PNFPG Libby Show Ad committee, I am in the process of lining up vendors for the Libby Show this September. We are offering an outside spot near the show office 10 ft. square for the three day show for $ 50. You will need to bring your own tent or cover and provide the show with liability insurance for your booth at set up. We will try not to duplicate the booths so as to have a variety. Only quality horse related items please. The PNFPG reserves the right to refuse any booth. For an aplication and more information please contact Ron Dayton (208 623-3600. "Happy Trails"
Libby Show-off topic?
This message is from: "mtlivestock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello everyone. We have been a lurker on this list since we considered a Fjord for our farm. In the end, we decided against the mare. But we have remained on this list as it is informative. As the Libby show approaches, we would like to inform participants of our local farm club: Farmers' Exchange Club. We have no Fjord owners as members. We are often called upon when visitors are in the area for hay, boarding, and the viewing of other livestock. Please take a moment to visit our website. If there is anything of interest there, please feel free to contact us. We know it is hard for visitors when the truck breaks down or other problems. We have a great bunch of farmers and ranchers in the area. We are just another resource to answer your questions or just lend a hand. We know there is a good network of Fjord owners in the area, but we did want to point our this other resource in the area. We hope your visit to our area is fun and rewarding! This is the only notice we will place on this list since it is somewhat off-topic. We felt is was important to inform list members before the show. Christina/Doug, club contacts Farmers' Exchange Club http://www.geocities.com/mtlivestock/index.html (Website was updated: 8/8/04) 406-293-7553 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/montanalivestockandfeed http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreecycleLibby/
Libby Show
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, Just a quick note to remind you pre-entries are due August 15th for the Libby show and today's the 12th! You can print off the entry form and find out more about the show and classes on the PNFPG web site: http://www.pnfpg.org/ See you there! Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA where we're to reach 100+ again today!
RE: Libby show packets
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 Sherrie, No show rules on http://www.pnfpg.org as of 18:00 PDT, or have I (also) had a senior moment and haven't looked in the right place?? Subject: Libby show packets Also I had a senior moment when I sent out the packets and forgot to include a set of the show rules, they will be posted on the web-site later today if you need to down load a set, or e-mail me and I'll send you a set, we will also have them available at Libby for all the exhibitors. See ya at Libby, Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby show packets
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HI all, Those of you that received your show packets for the Libby show, please ignore the map of the grounds. The arena is being re-configured and that map is incorrect. When Shirley and I were there yesterday the work had already started, everything is being upgraded and should be really nice. We'll have a new map as soon as all the changes are in place. Also I had a senior moment when I sent out the packets and forgot to include a set of the show rules, they will be posted on the web-site later today if you need to down load a set, or e-mail me and I'll send you a set, we will also have them available at Libby for all the exhibitors. See ya at Libby, Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OOOPS! I got my horses bass ackwards. 13A is myself and Tova (From Margaret Strachan at Village Farms). 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our mare Troika. Sorry about that. The master page for the pictures at Libby is: Go to: http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/libbyfjord.htm l for the entire set of pictures. Go to: http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/libbyfjord-p9.html for the halter class 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you.
Re: Libby show photos
This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Fred! Frederick J. Pack wrote: This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Hi Taffy, 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
RE: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Hi Taffy, 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 Subject: Libby show photos / Calendars This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is there any way to find out who is who and the horses name in the Libby show photos? This was my first show so I haven't met everyone and their horses yet.
Re: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I admit to the goof. http://shopping.webmarket.com/exitpage/exitpage_hm.html";>http://shopping.webmarket.com/exitpage/exitpage_hm.html Sorry for the Senior moment. This is the address. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't hear from Saskia, She had made this site over 2 -3 years ago. Its a good reference. I wish someone would make another site like it. Putting it in the Herald and linked to NFHR would be nice. Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Morning everyone, We're having a 30* heat wave this morning! The frost looks more like snow than frost. BUT, the sun is shining and it looks like it'll be a great day to play with the horses! Is there any way to find out who is who and the horses name in the Libby show photos? This was my first show so I haven't met everyone and their horses yet. Someone mentioned there's normally a calendar of Fjord photos available. Where? Thanks for any help! Taffy Mercer
Libby show photos
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The photos are ready! for those of you who were in Libby at the International Norwegian Fjord Horse Show, and had photos taken of your Fjords.. they are ready for your viewing. Here's a note below from the photography gals..Ruthie, nw mt > Howdy Ruth, ...we'd appreciate it if you would let the Fjord list > know that the Libby Show pics are up on our site for those who participated > in the show. The URL is <http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/libbyfjord.html> > > Kim and Kari
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg Kuntsen wrote: ... thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time, stalwarts.. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons & Rollins's are some that come to mind... Peg I applaud your efforts in recognising the energies, human and "other" that go into the mix to create the Libby show, or ANY show! It is NOT a simple task by any means, especially as the Fjord exhibitor becomes more and more sophisticated in terms of the range of disciplines they can perform in. However, just wanted to add a few names to your list of above: Bev Bishop (nee Tarmina) and her sister Ailene Oakwright who basiclly originated Libby (correct me if I am wrong here!) and Larry & Lynn Bo, who I know were extremely supportive of the show in the early years. Lastly, lets not forget Chip Lamb's contribution... Anyway, just a little addendum to an allready stellar list. Cheers, Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, Nv _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Libby Show
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Brian, yours and Lisa's, knowledgeable comments are doing a lot to draw readers' attention to the show and to that particular class. Yeah! I remember your talking over with Larry Bo what to do if something went awry with the Random team, and I applaud your continuing emphasis on safety. I also applaud the effort and ingenuity you always put into setting up a unique hitch for that class. Are you coming this year? I know in the past you have alternated years. Thanks for taking the time to send your thoughts. Also thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time, stalwarts, who have kept the show going, usually sacrificing thereby their chance to bring horses themselves. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons & Rollins's are some that come to mind, as well as your family. I won't mention Bob Envick, since this is only his 4th year on the committee, as far as I know Just kidding. Those of us who are newer at this are trying to learn the ropes, and are getting wonderful help from Dennis and others. We know that we will not please everyone, and welcome helpful suggestions, opinions and even complaints. Some complaints may be spurious, though, and my son has a system we could adopt for dealing with those. If one of the young girls he was coaching in soccer came to him with a certain kind of complaint, he would say, "That's terrible! Go talk to Charlie [the assistant coach] about it." Charlie would listen carefully and then say with concern to the young lady, "I feel your pain" Sorry, the devil must have made me write that As many of you know, I favor inclusiveness, a "both-and" rather than an "either-or" position on most dilemmas. So, please, let us not have scornful attitudes toward those who want types of classes that you personally may not favor. There is room for all. Off the soap box and on to the hair cut appointment. Happy Holidays - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Libby Show
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Just a reminder that the Libby Show will be held on the weekend of Sept 13 - 15, 2002. This is when the town of Libby has scheduled their Nordicfest celebration. The Show Comm. invites ideas for new, exciting classes - you may submit them to me privately. Also, we need comments/committments for one particular class, Unique Hitch. This can be a crowd-pleaser, and is fun for participants, but has had very few entries in the past few years, so we plan to leave it out unless we get enough commitments from participants to have a decent - sized class. Listen up, out there! Let us hear from you. We had a good Show Comm meeting today in Ritzville, [yes, beautiful downtown Ritzville] - your show is in good hands. So let's hear what you want! Otherwise, you'll only get what we want. One thing for sure, the Stick Horse Class will have an "Adult" division this year; we have to - we can't keep them out. There will be no Evaluation in conjunction with the Show, so no one will have to plan to take a week's vacation just to be there. Looking forward to seeing you there - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Libby Show
This message is from: "Robyn Millar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It was my intention to thank the Libby Show committee for a wonderful show as soon as I got home. This is the second time I have attended the show (as a spectator) and the first time I have seen a Fjord evaluation. I used to show other breeds of horses and as I've gotten old(er) I have little interest in the great point chase. Everyone at the Libby Show has been so welcoming and really worked hard to make a fun, interesting show. Thank you! After the show I drove around Glacier Park, Waterton Lakes and, on a whim, visited Cardston, Alberta to see the Remington Carriage museum (that may not be the correct title). I don't have enough superlatives to describe that experience! I could have spent a week wandering around in there. The amount of planning, let alone work, that went into the displays is mind boggling. I then drove down to Fernie, BC for the night and awoke Tuesday morning to find the world drastically changed. My first thought was the quickest way across the Border and home. Apparently, a middle-aged woman and overly friendly Border Collie didn't look much like terrorist as the security guard gave me a smile, the dog a pat and we were on our way. It has been hard to resume normal activities, particularly amusements, but I did want everyone at the Libby Show to know I really appreciate their hard work and friendly spirit. Robyn Millar
Re: Libby - Show & Evaluation
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ruth bushnell wrote: > See how I worked that infomercial in Carol? You've taught me a lot =))) > (seriously). Very well said, Ruthie. Your descriptions were awesome! ;-) Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby - Show & Evaluation
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I very much agree Carol, I would love to have a copy too if anyone made a film. Gene and I have enjoyed the one from last year so much! Sorry you couldn't make it this year. Our A2Z Thorson placed third in the young stallion class (a Gjest grandson) and that was quite good considering the competition (like Obelisk). One of the Snowy Mtn Grays was second; (sorry I can't recall his name Lauren.). Thorson was ridden in the parade as a header for our stagecoach and team; he's a beautiful animal. One of our yearling fillies by A2Z Thorson was first place in yearling halter out of a large class! I hasten to add that she is for sale, her dam is a daughter of Rokida's Nicklaus (a gray that was Grand Champion at Blue Earth a few years ago). This gal is rich in color with very dark markings. See how I worked that infomercial in Carol? You've taught me a lot =))) (seriously). We also have a 2-year old stallion for sale that is a grandson of Gayle Ware's Dustin and he is also a son of Rusten. This sweetheart will do anything for you and is a gentleman through and through. Now I'm not guaranteeing that he'll dance the "fandango" like Dustin does, but if he was studiously ridden as long as Gayle has ridden Dusty, he just might =))) We have lots of prime young stock for sale, including a gelded son of Trinity's Samstein (2nd place last year) and a yearling filly by A2Z Thorson (2nd place last year). We live in northwest Montana, if anyone is interested in buying a quality Fjord at a reasonable price, give us a call at 406-295-5050 or drop us a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll fill in the particulars. Ruthie http://www.libby.org/~bushnell > > From the conversation on the List, I gather there wasn't a video made. > That's a shame, and I'd like to suggest that it would be a good place for > the NFHR to spend some money. A video of such a happening would be a > tremendous promotional tool. Just think about it . . . An edited video of > the 2001 Libby Show plus Evaluation available at a price, of course, to all > interested people, whether current Fjord owners or wannabees. I think that > would have been a hot item. Well, there's always next year. > > I have no idea what a professional video would cost --- $5,000 maybe. > Sell them for $35. Such a video would be a great service to the breed, and > a moneymaker for the Registry. > > Was there any kind of amateur video made that might be available for sale? > > Regards, Carol Rivoire
Re: Libby - Show & Evaluation
This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I wanted so badly to go to Libby this year. It's always been my favorite show, and it's gets better each year, so with the Evaluation happening at the same time, I tried my darndest to get the time off, but alas, no such luck. I want to thank Beth, Catherine, and everybody else who reported so thoroughly on the show. It must have been a grand show, and I'm in awe of those who laboured to put it on. I can only imagine the work and complications needed to coordinate a three-day show with a full-fledged Evaluation. Congratulations to all of you. >From the conversation on the List, I gather there wasn't a video made. That's a shame, and I'd like to suggest that it would be a good place for the NFHR to spend some money. A video of such a happening would be a tremendous promotional tool. Just think about it . . . An edited video of the 2001 Libby Show plus Evaluation available at a price, of course, to all interested people, whether current Fjord owners or wannabees. I think that would have been a hot item. Well, there's always next year. I have no idea what a professional video would cost --- $5,000 maybe. Sell them for $35. Such a video would be a great service to the breed, and a moneymaker for the Registry. Was there any kind of amateur video made that might be available for sale? Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long-more)
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Mike, for your additions and corrections. Glad to hear that you felt that the Evaluation went so smoothly! I had some great concerns about how it was going to end up prior to arriving (worry-wort that I can be.) But once we got going, and I saw just how committed and hard working the volunteers were, I quit worrying. Thanks to the score sheet runners. Thanks to Patty Petersen, Alan and Lois Merrill and Denise Hoopes. Sorry I missed you on the first post. Couldn't have done it without you all. As far as the Starfire team was concerned, we had a "pit crew" addition with Susan Cargill jumping in, grooming and generally helping anywhere she could to get horses ready for halter classes on Friday. Once those were over we finally got to play! First on the agenda was hitching the Four in Hand. The whole time we were so busy with the Evaluation stuff, Jeff and Lisa Pedersen were driving their Four around the show grounds while I, longingly, looked on! Finally, it was our turn. Our pit crew harnessed and hitched. Dave McWethy came by and gave us some pointers on harness and hitching. Thanks, Dave. Philllip Odden, Arne Presthus and Dave McWethy jumped on the carriage as we drove first to the arena (getting in the middle of Anne Appleby and Gayle Ware's freestyle construction!) Then out to the horse paths in the woods. Ah what fun! That's what it's all about, eh Dave, Jeff, Lisa and Brian? There is nothing like the sound of that team clopping down the road in unison. Speaking on Anne and Gayle, I want to echo (again) what Catherine Lasessen said about the quality of riding and driving we saw at Libby this year. In addition to Anne and Gayle, Joni Morrison, who rode for Anton Voorhoeve, was riding and schooling the Voorhoeve's young horses. This young woman has ridden under world class Dressage instructors in Germany, and it was obvious. Anne let her school Wez and it was something watching her get some very lofty and "through" tempi changes and passage. What a gas! I commented to Joni about the quality of the work she was getting from Wez, and she said that he was "very nice!" A tribute to Anne's skill in bringing him up through the levels of Dressage. It was just awesome seeing the high quality of riding and schooling there, all in Libby, Montana at a Fjord horse show. Hard to imagine, but there we were. So, with all of that going on and the Pedersen's, the Jensen's and our Four-in-Hands, there was a lot to see at Libby this year. Saturday's show opened with the three Four-in-Hands and a Pair bringing in the flags for the opening ceremonies. Quite an impressive sight. We continued on with a Four-in-Hand class, then on to the various riding, driving and fun classes that make the Libby show so popular. I kept hearing Jenny Callahan's name placing high in the ribbons. Congratulations, Jenny, quite an improvement from last year. Due to flagging energy on our parts, the Starfire team had to scratch quite a few classes (can you believe it, we even scratched the Log Skid, oh yea, and guys, the GIRLS won the Log Skid again..) I do want to say, however that we were very proud of Sue North's and our little white dun mare, MVF Sara. Sue (Sandy's mother) has been participating in the Libby show for a few years with very limitied riding and driving experience. She did an awesome job driving Sara in the Novice Driving and Ladies driving classes, taking first place and third place, respectively. Sue, who was thrilled last year when she finally "placed" in a driving class year, was as proud as can be of her little mare. Everyone wanted to take Sara home with them (sorry, you'll have to go through Sue first!) Congratulations to all who were there, whether you showed or not, whether you placed or not. We had another wonderful time, with good friends and awesome surroundings. Thanks, again, PNFPG, for another great time in Libby. We have some nice photos from the show and I'll try to get them up on our website during the next week. Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long)
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 01:42 PM 9/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 32 horses participated in the Conformation portion of the Evaluation. Three and Under Stallions (3); Three and Under Mares (2); Three and Over Geldings (3); Three and Older Stallions (11); Three and Older Mares (15.) I think we had one scratch in the conformation evaluation. Somewhere around 45 performance tests were completed the following day (actually, it was 54 if you count the utility sections of the tests separately) which started Thursday morning at 8:00 a.m.. If my numbers are incorrect, you'll have to forgive me. I participated in 12 Introductory tests with 6 horses, so my recollection of most of the day is a total blur. I really don't know how you did that Beth. Then to go on for 2 more days of the show with just about as an aggressive schedule too. What a woman! Please, if my numbers are incorrect, feel free to correct them (Mike?) I think we actually had a few less than what you listed. We had a few horses scratch some tests. But your numbers are fairly close. The Medallions were awarded by Mike May the following morning. He must have either stayed up late, or gotten up very early Friday morning to tabulate the scores for this. Am I right, Mike? Actually I had them all set & ready to hand out after the last test was scored but we just plain ran out of time. As a horse finished all of its tests I calculated the medallion it was to receive so I wasn't left with several hours work afterwards this time. I would have handed them out right after the last test but most everyone was already on their way to dinner by then. Thanks, again, to everyone involved in the success of this Evaluation. The Libby 2001 Evaluation Committee: Ursula Jensen, Peg Knutsen and I, couldn't have accomplished this without the assistance of (almost) countless people. I'll try to name them all, but if I miss anyone, let me know, as I'd like to include my thanks to them in a Herald article. Thanks to Mike May, Dennis Johnson, Woody Hoopes, Photographers Kim and Kari of Mirror KB Ranch, the Parks and Rec. coordinator Carol Ann (can't remember her last name) Peltier , Brian Jensen, Anne Appleby, Bob North, Frank Ping and Doug Knutsen. Denise Hoopes was my most able bodied assistant too. Patty Peterson also helped out some the first day. Keith Brighton & Alan Merrill both were helping me with the running of the score sheets too. I would also like to thank all that helped. Especially the ones that were forgotten above. I hope I didn't miss too many. It was a very smooth running Evaluation this time. They seem to run better every time we have one. I guess we are getting it figured out. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long)
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi listers, It's been difficult for me to sit down and write in the aftermath of 9-11-01. We were on our second leg of our two day trip home from Libby, had just loaded the horses and were preparing to be on our way when I caught a glimpse of the WTC on our host's television. The first tower was on fire, then the second plane struck. We listened to the events unfold in horror and disbelief as our little caravan drove home. Each new piece of news had us wondering what would come next, and just how bad it might become. Our feelings of helplessness and insignificance, I'm sure, were shared by many. We watched as one jet landed in Billings, MT., then saw no more planes in the sky. It was erie. As someone said on a news program last night, "normal" is not going to be the same anymore. Thank you to everyone who has shared their words of encouragement and news, both good and bad. It has been especially helpful, and deeply touching, for me to hear of the solidarity felt and displayed around the world. I cannot read, watch or think about the outpouring of untiy and love for fellow human beings without becoming emotional and teary eyed. A deep, heartfelt, thanks for your thoughts, prayers and all you are doing. Life, here, is slowly returning to "normal." I, like others have written, take comfort in mundane tasks and the warm, kind, eyes of our horses. I would like to echo Catherine Lassessen's well said thanks to everyone who helped out with the Libby show, and with the driving accident in the pleasure driving class. In addition to the gentlemen who dragged the runaway horse to a stop, several people came into the arena to head the remaining horses while we waited for an ambulance. Thanks to everyone for your assistance and I was glad to know that the driver survived, miraculously, with only bumps and bruises. We participated in both the Evaluation and the PNFPG show. Congratulations, again, to the Libby Show Committee for putting on another wonderful show. Due to the hard work and dedication of wonderful Committee members and volunteers, the Evaluation came off without a hitch. A special thanks to Dennis Johnson and Woody Hoopes, who were there for us to provide just about anything we needed. 32 horses participated in the Conformation portion of the Evaluation. Three and Under Stallions (3); Three and Under Mares (2); Three and Over Geldings (3); Three and Older Stallions (11); Three and Older Mares (15.) Wayne Hipsley and Karen Cabic were the senior evaluators. We were also given the added pleasure of having Arne Presthus, from Norway, complete score sheets for our horses. Arne's scores were not included in the final tablulation of the overall score given for each horse, however it was nice to be able to receive a written document giving us a Norwegian viewpoint of the quality of our horses. In comparing our horses' scores between Wayne's, Karen's and Arne's score sheets, the points are not so far off. When there were differences, they were usually not more than one or a half point apart, which tells me that the qualities that evaluators are looking for in a good horse are similar, whether American or Norwegian. After each group of horses had been evaluated, they were brought back into the arena giving everyone (participants and audience) the opportunity to see the horses (within their respective sex and age group) together for comparison. Wayne, Karen and Arne provided commentary regarding each horse, making it an educational experience for participants and audience. Ribbons and score sheets were awarded at that time. Evaluator trainees also scoring alongside the senior evaluators were; Catherine Lasessen, Curtis Pierce and Phillip Odden. Somewhere around 45 performance tests were completed the following day (actually, it was 54 if you count the utility sections of the tests separately) which started Thursday morning at 8:00 a.m.. If my numbers are incorrect, you'll have to forgive me. I participated in 12 Introductory tests with 6 horses, so my recollection of most of the day is a total blur. I'll take this opportunity to thank our awesome "pit crew" (Gail and Jim Russel, Sandy North, Bob and Sue North, Kathie Hibbard, Frank and Michelle Ping) who kept the horses coming in their required tack. Special thanks to Jeff and Lisa Pedersen, who stepped in to help out with harnessing, hitching and getting to me the 5 horses I drove in the Intro Driving tests, with only one horse in between each test. Their efforts, along with our "pit crew" made sure that the evaluators were not kept waiting for tack changes. Please, if my numbers are incorrect, feel free to correct them (Mike?) The order of tests was as follows: Introductory Western (7 tests); Advanced Western (3 tests); Introductory English (14 te
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Catherine- Glad to hear you are home safe & had a good time. How did your horses place? Was Blaaman there? Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Libby Show
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everyone, The news on 9-11 overshadowed the wonderful time we shared with many Fjord Lovers in Libby, MT. We thank you all (the organizers, volunteers and staff) for making it another nice show. Thank you to the 3-4 men that help save all of our lives in the Open Driving Class. I only have one name but I could see 3 more that helped in "mugging" the run-a-way horse. I thank you for jumping in the line of danger and getting the horse contained before it could have ran into another competitor. Thank you to Lisa Pedersen for talking me through my first run-a-way experience. Lisa guided Lupin and I to the center of the arena and we stood close together and watched the scene unfold. Thank you to Gayle Ware for showing Lupin in her final riding Evaluation. Thank you to the Evaluation Staff who kept the day going strong and for allowing me to learn so much with the evaluation training program. Thank you to our fellow competitors. We had some of the BEST IN THE NATION at this show. Anne Appleby, Gayle Ware, Brian and Ursula Jensen, Lisa and Jeff Pedersen, Beth Beymer & Sandra North, The Fjord gang from Narnia, even Dave McWethy to name a few. Thank you all for making it a fun atmosphere to show in. To see the wonderful Fjords gathered there was a sight. Erland - winner of the Versatility Award for the show and his personal gang of human workers. The ages Stallion Class had the top stallions in every field of work. Dressage, Reining, and Driving. This class was history in the making. We were privileged to be there. Greetings to our new friends that we have met this time in Libby. I do hope everyone made it home safe. Ursula how's your boy? Getting ready for Turlock (9 days), ugh, Catherine Lassesen HESTEHAVEN - THE HORSE GARDEN
Libby Show-deadline August 15th.
This message is from: "Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good Morning, Just a quick reminder, the deadline for the Libby Show is fast approaching, if you want to be listed as an exhibitor your entry form needs to be to Shirley Anderson by August 15th. See ya at Libby, Sherrie
Need Hay for the Libby Show? Order now.
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everyone. This is Sandy, not Beth -- unusual, eh? Just a quick note for folks going to the Libby show this year that are thinking they might want to buy some hay locally for the evaluation/show. Remember if you're doing both you'll probably need to bring more hay than usual. I was shocked when I did the math and realized how much we needed to cover the event and travel days. The bottom line is we are bringing more horses than we can haul hay for so I've been doing some calling around to buy some up there. Apparently it has been very hot and dry and there is virtually no hay to be had!! Thanks to Patty Peterson I got in touch with Joann Rimstad of Silver Butte Farm who owns a feed store and has some hay (both grass and alfalfa mix) that she's had trucked in from eastern Washington (I *think*). Anyway, we placed an order with her and she is going to have it delivered right to the fairgrounds for us. If you are in a similar situation, give her a call at 406-293-2132 and I'm sure she'll be able to help you out too. Sandy -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Libby Show Packets
This message is from: "Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good Morning everyone, Just a quick note, all of you that contacted me should have received your packets for the Libby Show by now. I'll be heading up to the Sierra's to our cabin at Echo Lake for vacation Friday the 20th. I'll be back the 29th. So if you know of anyone that needs a packet have them contact me in the next day or so and I'll get a packet out before I leave or I'll leave some with Dennis & Marge Johnson and they can send one out. Just contact Dennis & Marge at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I also have them on my computer and I can e-mail most of the packet to anyone that needs it too. See ya at Libby, Sherrie
Libby Show Packets
This message is from: "Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good Morning, The show packets for the Libby Show are in the mail. They were sent to all the 2001 PNFPG members. I also will be sending out packets to those that I know have participated in the past. If you're not sure you're a member please contact me and I'll let you know if a packet has been sent or I can send packets to anyone else that is interested in attending. We're made some changes this year so take a minute and check everything out. If you have any questions please e-mail me or call me. Any of you with small children that are planning on attending this year we have a Stick Horse class for the kids, its broken down into 3 different age categories. The stick horses can either be home built or purchased. It should be a lot of fun. Hope to see you at Libby, Sherrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby show!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received this note, could someone help her out please. Thanks Tillie >Subj: Libby tape >Date: 2/8/2001 7:43:11 AM Pacific Standard Time >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (carlson) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hi, from Hope, on the fjord list, I'd love to see that tape, do you >know where I could find/buy/rent purchase one? Thanks, Hope Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
RE: Libby show.....with the BIG BOYS !
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa Pederson wrote: Lisa I guess you haven't looked at the photo albums. Jeff is shown in: MVC-834s, shown in my Libby Series 3 album...captioned: mvc-834s. Jeff Pederson. Pederson Fjords. Cedar City, UT. Pederson Fjords. Was it the same picture? Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA
Libby show.....with the BIG BOYS !
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List ! Thanks, everyone for the great time had at the Libby Mt. Fjord show ! You all out-did yourselves, and it was even better than when we made the trip in ' 97. The rain did not seem to slow up anything, and it really made the smoke from all the fires go away. Of course, it could have waited until we had practiced our green tandem hitch instead of deciding to POUR during all 20 min. of it ! All ended well though, the next day as the " Unique Hitch " class went off without a wreck. ( No minor deal as we were the most BORING hitch out there with a simple tandem ! ) All I can say is that the vidio tapes of this one class might be worth buying it ! I wanted to comment about the thread of everyone competing in classes together. Here in Utah, at least it seems we are able to go show and knock the socks off every judge and knock off most breeds too, BUT, it sure doesnt get my very competitive juices flowing ( WHO ME ? ) like when I enter the ring with people who I have read about, that are on the World Driving teams, or have always been strong contenders on International Driving circuits. Now THATS fun ! I am proud, as always when my horses do well, as in Blue Earth, finishing 1st in our driving classes, and winning Blues in the Evaluation..BUT, I can truely say that the 2nd place behind Ursula Jenson and the 3rd place behind Orville Unrue and Ron Pearson at Libby beats all of that. You cant learn or feel good about a win till you have been pushed and made to perform with the best out there. Spent some time with Anita and Orville at Blue Earth and Libby, and I can say that they are the most down to earth, friendly folks out there. ( Not to mention some of Orvilles storys of misbehavior while out showing with the REALLY BIG BOYS ) I recieved the nicest card from Brian and Ursula Jensen today with a beautiful picture of Jeff entering the ring at Libby with the tandem hitchthe ONLY picture to come out BTW without that &^%$%* chain link fence in the way !Now THATS class ! We were glad to meet you guys too ! Thanks for the compliments, and picture, guys. This is whats fun about showing with superior people.NOT about always winning, but the RIDE along the way. Speaking of class acts.Beth and Sandy at both shows were gracious, funny and always fun to be around. Beth, thanks for the compliments, but YOU were the biggest shock to me with your pair comming so far in such a short time ! Gave me a true run for the $$, and as Sandy said, " we THREW down a gauntlet...and Beth picked it up and ran with it !Look for her to be hitting the CDE shows as well as Fjord breed ones, and with the way shes going. its gonna get fun ! ; ) * Before I forget, I want to say that I have NO IDEA what Cynthia, Beth or Michele are talking about. Hands in pockets ? Who...me ? Dumpster diving ? You all need a vacation. Or maybe an increase in medication. ; ) Better fly for now, please try and make it to FJORD CHAT at PetsandVets tomorrow night, Sun. at 9 PM Eastern time, horse room # 1. http://chat3.suresite.com/petsvets/vcclient/horsechat.html";>HORSE CHAT ROOM Be good everyone ! Hope all's well and fun at Turlock ! Lisa Pedersen
RE: Want some prints of the Libby show?
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, this is NOT one of those free web sites. They offer you some free prints to join in the hopes that you will order more in the future. ImageStation at Sony has made some high quality stuff for meat a reasonable price. On the site is a check box as to whether or not you want to receive e-mail from them OR not wish to share your address with other vendors linked to Sony. I get no Spam stuff from Sony or affiliates. Fred Fred regarding all of these "free" websites, don't you pick up advertising? I am on someone's list and get four or five ads a day and am trying to squelch them through "abuse.net" and my on line assist. Jean> ] Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Want some prints of the Libby show?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fred regarding all of these "free" websites, don't you pick up advertising? I am on someone's list and get four or five ads a day and am trying to squelch them through "abuse.net" and my on line assist. Jean ] Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Want some prints of the Libby show?
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you want some prints of the Libby show.for free Here's How... Go to one of my albums of the Libby show, click on the picture you want to get the full size image on your screen. Windows users, right click on the picture and a Save As box pops up. Save the picture to your computer. MAC users will have to save to desktopBUT be sure it is NOT saved as a .dat filebut a .jpg file. go to http://www.imagestation.com/ and click on the box "Join Imagestation and get 50 free prints". Join, then upload the pictures that you saved to disk to the site. The pictures that I shot were in low resolution, so the maximum size for prints should be a 4x6. Voila, you get free prints. I have had an account with Sony for some time and they do good work. Got some ball caps and coffee mugs with Fjords on them and some good prints made. Prints MAY be ordered from PhotoPoint while viewing the albums. Check the pictures desired and click on the ClipBoard icon on the left side of the screen, then follow directions. 4x6 prints are $.49 each. I do NOT sell prints myself. All the photographs in Libby Series 1-4 are YOURS for the downloading/printing. I have NOT used PhotoPoint to make prints. I used them because they would accept my big files (so far). If PhotoPoint limits my uploads, I will shift the pictures to imagestation at Sony. Making my still pictures available is my way of saying thanks to some very good peoplehowever I will have to charge $25 for the video. Fred
Re: Since you asked....about the Libby Show
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ursula Jensen wrote: > This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Lauriesince you asked about Libby let me tell you that you were sorely > missed...whenever I was looking for a photographer he/she was not to be > found...oh well, I'm hoping that 'someone' took a few pictures along the way > and is willing to share... Ditto that one, for me. Your photographic skills were missed, Laurie. Hope you're doing well. > Sunday was Obstacle Driving and there were enough entries to split the pairs > and singles and we had a drive-off in the morning... Brian had the best time > for the pairs but had a ball down so Orville Unrau took the pairs by > fractions of sec. Orville was driving a pair of three year old mares which had "been brought down from the mountain" only one month prior (after Blue Earth.) They were in snaffle bits and were amazingly well matched. I understand that both were very green prior to coming off the mountain. Well done, Orville! I drove BDF John Arthur and BDF Magnum in their second go at a cones course, ever. They were great together. Had a little difficulty with a short (5 meter?) serpentine, which we walked, but we went clean with a decent time. I thought that we had beaten Jeff Pederson with his pair (after Orville's 1st and Brian's second place) but was informed, by Jeff, that that he had, indeed, driven better than I and had third place. Now, Jeff and Lisa, where's the proof? ;-) So, I may have to send my ribbon to Utah. Sorry Jeff, that it was already packed tight when you told me (yea, right ;-) John and Magnum took second place to Brian Jensen's pair in the Team Pleasure driving. I was very proud of the boys, as they had to work very hard and long at the "extended trot." They worked well together, for being a new team. John keeps trying to show Magnum how to do it. Magnum is finally catching on. Poor Magnum was not only included in the team competition, he had to compete in Open Western Pleasure (1st place,) Open English Pleasure (5th place) Single horse pleasure driving (5th place) and the Log Skid (1st place.) Anyone, feel free to correct me - it's all such a blurr. There was some stiff competition in the Log Skid. Brian Jensen and I each touched a cone with our first horses, he with Nejsa and me with John Arthur. Pat Malloy and Allen Quimby both had smokin' scores. Then a raw rookie, Steve Gioia, did a great job with his mare, Vind, but touched a cone. Then along comes Brian with Sambar and a 37 second run. Well, I was not expecting to have Magnum win in the Log Skid, as I had intended to drive him carefully so as to not be eliminate by stepping out of the boundary line (as we had in the Team Log Skid.) So I just let Magnum go at his own pace, but he was so "with me" during that run. It was smooth, felt easy and very slow. I was amazed when they announced the time! I don't think we'll be able to do better. As for the riding britches, well, we had so many tack changes that I didn't have time to change from the previous class. I expect to see Brian in a full body suit next year. Less wind resistance, eh? Maybe one of those new fangled Olympic swim suits? Hm. How would that look with the loafers and the hat? The win in the Log Skid cemented Magnum as the 2000 Versatility Award winner. Boy am I proud of him! He was such a trooper, never asked me "why do we have to do this?" He just says, "Okay, whatever you want." He's such a wonderful boy. John, in the meantime, took Sandy's mom, Sue, in the Novice Pleasure Driving, where they placed third. He also took my mom in the Fabulous Forties class, where they won second place. Lisa Pederson and I drove our pairs in the Ladies Cart class. I think Lisa took second place to Ursula's first? Beautiful pair, beautifully driven. Ursula worked her "you know what" off to get her boy, Raynor, prepared for his classe. She did a great job. You'd hear a strong "clip clop clip clop" of horse hooves coming down the road, and, sure enough, it was Raynor burning off some of his youthful energy. It was great to see all of the pairs driving around everywhere! So much fun! Then Brian with the Four, and of course, the "whatchamacallit" hitch. What a hoot! Woody Hoopes was constantly lunging three horses abreast to get ready for his classes. And, oh yea, the Malloy's daughter (I think she's eight years old) did an incredible job driving their pair, in the buckboard, to win the junior driving class. She could really drive those horses! There was an awful lot going on. Our friend Cheryl Gioia won the Adult costume class riding her mare Vind, who was wearing a refridgerator box painted like a F(j)ORD car, complete with a fjord license plate and Firestone tires. Her entry was, of course "Have you driven a fjord lately?" In the Kid's costume class the Pearson's Toby had his very own cheering section f
Since you asked....about the Libby Show
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lauriesince you asked about Libby let me tell you that you were sorely missed...whenever I was looking for a photographer he/she was not to be found...oh well, I'm hoping that 'someone' took a few pictures along the way and is willing to share... For those interested we had Sandy N. video the WHOLE Libby Show and the PNFPG will have them available shortly (for a price) in it's entirety...that's at least 6-8hrs of tapeonce we get the tape copied onto VHS and boxed, Sarah Nagel will have them to sell for approx $50..... Now a little about some of the Libby Show happenings from our immediate neighborhood.We were so busy with all the driving classes, that it is always difficult to see the riding classes etc. I debuted my young 4yr old stallion Penfrydds Raynor and was very unsure if he would hold together at his very first show and first time in the ring with other horsesmy objective was not to have to excuse myself from a class due to bad behavioras it turned out he made me very proud. The Open Pleasure Driving class was huge (15) and had to be split.he made the first cut and that was a thrill for mehe drove even better and showed a fine extended trot when asked.I also had a chance to really show him well as there was plenty of room to move during the classI felt good about the class and I had given it my best effortI was sure we would be in the ribbons and felt good about that alone but ya never know how others drive since you're usually concentrating on your own unitI was totally EXTATIC when I won the class.WOW what a debutI WAS ONE HAPPY MAMMA. Brian drove in the UNIQUE HITCH with surprisingly 3 other hitches this year.Pat Malloy drove a 4-abreast, Woody Hoopes drove a 3-abreast and Petersens entered a TandemBrian drove a 'Watch-A-Ma-Call-It'a Pair at the wheel and the tandem out frontunique indeed.the judge came to him after and said "whatever posessed you to do THAT?'he had practiced a few times here at home and felt it was do-able.originally he wanted to drive a Quadrum but we just had no time to try it at home.He won that class and we all knew it was downhill from there. Brian took Sambar and Nesja in the Team log skid and won that.There were two eliminations in that class due to the new out-of-bounds restrictions (Pat Malloy and Beth Beymer) Orville came second and Alan Quimbey third. Sunday was Obstacle Driving and there were enough entries to split the pairs and singles and we had a drive-off in the morning... Brian had the best time for the pairs but had a ball down so Orville Unrau took the pairs by fractions of sec. I had a good run in the run-off and made the cut but had a slight brain fade and crossed my own track in the finals hence was eliminated. Pilot error and not the fault of the horse. Brian won the Pairs Driving with our young boys Trinity's Stein and brother Tinity's Sak. They are so well matched and always drive in unison,,,a real pleasure to watch them. P. Raynor and I won the Ladies Cart class which again made me extremely happy. This class was very difficult to drive as there never seemed to be the space and room to show the horse as asked. It was obvious that the judge was using the extended trot as an elimating factor and by Sunday most horses were tired and much slower due to the heavy sand in the ring. I had difficulty moving him out as well as the day before but did manage to get 'some' extention and hoped the judge had seen it.You all know that 'if the judge didn't see it - it didn't happen '. I was worried that we would break gait on the walk or he would not stand long enough for the presentation but he certainly made me proud. Two of Brian's Driving Vacation Students had it in for him this yearthey were both wanting to beat him in the classes and both got their wish. Beth Beymer pulled off an amazing 31 sec single log skid and placed first...(we all know it was the low resistence of her riding breeches and I will now have to buy Brian a pair for Christmas so he has half a chance at redeeming himself.) and Pat Malloy placed 1st and Brian 2nd in the Draft Hitch driving class (last driving class of the day) and was thrilled about that. All in all we came home with 6 blue ribbons 5 red ribbons and 2 yellow...After our 11 blue ribbons in 98 it would seem less of a showing but the competition in Libby is getting fierce and the quality of stock and ability and horsemanship is amazing.We were happy to have done so well. This was the first year some of our offsprings were at Libby and it was a joy to be able to share in their owners pride too as they collected their blue ribbons . I know two babies will go to new homes this weekend. Beth Beymer and Sandy North of Starfire Farm now own two horses with the Versit
Re: libby show?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/4/00 11:13:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am wondering if one must have all the fancy gear to "show" in the Sat. classes at the Turlock show? We just ride our horse and thought it would be fun to enter a few of the english walk/trot... but don't have any fancy clothes... Please let me know what exactly is required to enter a class like that. >> Hi Lori- I will be wearing nearly-everyday stuff. Wranglers, boots, cowgirl hat, with the exception of a button shirt (I always wear T's). My tack isn't too bad, although it's hardly show quality. And I'm just learning how to use a clipper on my horses' fur. So we may be quite a sight : ) Brigid in CA
Re: Libby Show and Packing
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After Libby, they continue on down to Wyoming where > we deliver Quadl's Drey to a > therapeutic riding program and will definately shed > tears over that - a tough > decision to rearrange bloodlines. She's going to a > perfect place, Mary. Cathy, Sounds like a good place. Plus, I'll get to see her on her way to her new home, as I'll be in Libby for the show. No horses with me, just coming for a visit with my sister and other relatives and will be attending the show and parade. Don't forget to remind Erroll > that his poor wife is slaving away at home instead > of being where all the fun is > ---so he really needs to visit the fjord booths and > pick her up lots and lots > of great stuff. And Christmas is coming too Consider him reminded - frequently! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Libby Show and Packing
This message is from: Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Jensen wrote:" The log pull competition should be great with Beth, Ron, and Pat trying to run faster than this ole-man. Look for some real great competition in riding and driving as each year folks are improving making some classes real nail-bitters." Hey - don't forget Erroll - he intends to run faster than y'all. We're actually having a nail biting time packing to go to our first Libby show here. We're so excited about it - thanks to a horse sale, are going a year earlier than anticipated.. (except for me who gets to stay home and keep the rest of the horses fed and watered) Erroll and the two girls pull out on the 7:00AM ferry tomorrow morning and hope to get there in two 8 hour days. Just arrived home from a three day fair last night about 8:00PM and there is tack spread all over the lawn being cleaned and repacked. I'm busy nagging the two vets today who are still working on the travel certificates. Yikes! Going to be a really tight squeeze getting camping gear, horse gear and horses packed. Hard to pack for something you have never been to!!!( ie do we take or leave stall decorations? do we have laminated pedigree info on stalls or not, do we take that woosy straw hat for driving or not?etc etc. Of course our west coast girls believe that they will freeze in those temperatures at night. After Libby, they continue on down to Wyoming where we deliver Quadl's Drey to a therapeutic riding program and will definately shed tears over that - a tough decision to rearrange bloodlines. She's going to a perfect place, Mary. Unfortunately, Erroll does not know many names from the list - but please stop by the Misty Meadows stalls or camping areas and say hello - we carry our advertising with us on our truck and trailer and you can't miss them. He is also bringing a Norwegian harness for sale. It's in great shape, we have not used it very much at all and are wanting to focus more on combined driving equipment for now. (ugly, ugly black metal four wheeled cart!!!) Don't forget to remind Erroll that his poor wife is slaving away at home instead of being where all the fun is ---so he really needs to visit the fjord booths and pick her up lots and lots of great stuff. And Christmas is coming too. Have a great time everyone!! Cathy, Misty Meadows B&B and Fjords, Victoria, BC >
Re: Libby Show and Packing
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nice to see you on the list again Brian and best of luck to you, how can you lose with all that gear, and Ursula and gang. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Libby Show and Packing
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This a rather tongue-in-cheek appraisal of packing to go a horse show.The trailer has been parked by the house for the last week and every day the LISTS of things to go keeps going up. My new motto after some twelve years of shows is to drop the lists and just take everything. One look at my empty harness room is enough satisfaction that all is loaded. We started with a truck with stock racks pulling a little trailer behind which carried the wagon and cart, both home-made somewhat tacky but what the hay. This year we have new enforced B.C. regs. on truck and trailer weights which made us illegal on the road. Hence a new/old 5 ton Int. truck pulling our old 32 foot trailer which is loaded to the gunnels. Actually I find cleaning and packing enjoyable if one has the time. You find another space under the truck seat and in goes some more stuff.! One is continually surprised how much accessories one accumulates for DRIVING over the years. Five Fjords are making the trip plus a wagonette and cart plus 300 feet of lines for unique-hitch, four-up, carriage pairs, draft pairs, singles etc. Add to that all the different types of harness, collars, headstalls,clothing, it becomes a major event. After the Rogers mountain pass to cross in the A.\M. we are downhill all the way. Should be able to coast on momentum and be there in 12 hours. My how things have changed since starting this journey with Fjords. For those of you coming watch for our crazy unique-hitch, a four-up demo on Sunday and of course Ursulas new young man who will be in some driving classes. The log pull competition should be great with Beth, Ron, and Pat trying to run faster than this ole-man. Look for some real great competition in riding and driving as each year folks are improving making some classes real nail-bitters For those of you coming drive safely and come say hi at our camp which says Trinity Fjords. Oh yes if you bring Fjords I am the person to see. There will be a sign at our trailer and a clipboard to sign if I am lost.If one of your Fjords is questionable health wise ask a show committee member or get a vet. HEALTH and COGGINS at our house Cheers and see you there --Brian Jensen Ursula & Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
libby show?
This message is from: "Fred & Lori Osmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, I am wondering if one must have all the fancy gear to "show" in the Sat. classes at the Turlock show? We just ride our horse and thought it would be fun to enter a few of the english walk/trot... but don't have any fancy clothes... Please let me know what exactly is required to enter a class like that. Thanks, Lori and Jess CATSOFOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/8660 - Scottish Fold Web site
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:32 AM 8/29/00 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello to all. Can anyone repeat the dates of both the Libby and the Turlock shows? Thanks, Teressa in Ferndale From the NFHR Web site: September 8, 9 & 10 - 14th Annual International Fjord Horse Show in Libby, Montana - Sponsored by the Pacific Northwest Fjord Horse promotional Group. Contact Sherrie Dayton at (206)623-3600 or e-mail Sherrie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] September 22, 23,& 24 - 7th Annual Nordic Horse Show at Skandifest in Turlock, California - SPONSORED BY FJORDINGS WEST Contact Sami Nelson - Show manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for show information === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello to all. Can anyone repeat the dates of both the Libby and the Turlock shows? Thanks, Teressa in Ferndale
Libby Show
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Ruthie Bushnell suggested I share some information for those of you thinking about coming to Libby but hadn't been able to find a room in Libby. Her suggestion was that you might find a room in Troy. Troy is only about 18 to 20 miles from Libby. Ruthie says that there are 2 motels in Troy. You might want to contact her personally for information . To my knowledge all the rooms in Libby are filled up. Most of the rooms in town fill up for Nordicfest anyway, but this year with all the firefighters in town there's nothing available. Anyone that is hauling horses or has a camper, tent or motor home can camp on the show grounds. There are no full hook ups but we do have hot showers now. They've added privacy curtains, hooks and mirrors this year. Its $5.00 per night to camp. I'm going to include 2 phone #'s that you can call for road conditions, the first is for the State of Montana Road Conditions, 800-226-7623, and the 2nd is for the Kootenai National Forest in Libby, they may have information on local road closures, 406-293-6211. At this time there are no road closures, that I know of. Road closures are going to change on an hourly basis. Most of the big fires are no where near Libby. A few years back we had fires burning right out side of Libby and it didn't have any effect on Nordicfest or the Horse show. As Patty Petersen said the other day, they do get smoke in town and then in the afternoon the breeze clears it out. For those of you coming to Libby, on Friday night Sunwood fjords will be hosting a pot luck, we'll have BBQ beef sandwiches. Stop by and visit us. Bring a dish of some kind. We'll also be doing something on Sunday morning like we did last year. All of you coming, have a safe trip and we'll see you in Libby, if you have any questions please contact me and I'll try and get an answer for you. Sherrie
Libby Show
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Just a quick note, the Show Packets for Libby have been sent to all PNFPG members. If you're not a member and want a packet please e-mail me privately and I'll send you one. See ya at Libby, Sherrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby Show Packet?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, we've had an awesome week with the horses. Our daughter Mandy (and I) put together a little day camp for horse lovers age 6-10. The response was great for our little area, and we limited each 3 day 2 1/2 HR each day session, to only 6 kids. Mandy is using the money to buy some much needed show clothing and tack. We are using one of our Fjords, Tone' . She is doing beautifully. She might be green, but for the little kids that only can steer by plow reining, she is great, and so gentle and patient. We've been using Mandy's QH mare for the showmanship part and anybody that's had some experience already and wants to do more. We took pictures of the little girls for their scrapbooks and most of them wanted the picture on Tone'. Two parents have done nothing but quiz me for info on our wonderful breed. Mandy has one more session, then I'm sure there will be some scheduled for next year already. It's been a lot of work, (she gets up two hours before to warm everyone up and get the craft and snack prepared). I'm getting so excited for Libby, When are the show packets being mailed. Every time I go to a garage sale I look for clothes I can show in. Can't wait to see you all there!! Mike and Michele Noonan Stevensville, Montana
Libby Show
This message is from: "Oscar and Shirley Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just a couple of notes about the Libby Show from one of the lurkers on line. First - the show program. We (the show committee) are trying to accommodate the requests that we have received. The decision was made last year to include pedigree information in the Get of Sire and Produce of Dam classes in 2000. Funding for the program has not increased, in fact we are changing the way our program is produced this year in an effort to decrease costs. More pages (if we could get enough pre-registrations) to include pedigrees on all horses would be costly, and we hope to address this issue using other venues. Numbers will be assigned to a specific horse this year, instead of the exhibitor as we have done in the past. This change should make it easier to track horses in and out of the ring. We will continue to strongly encourage all exhibitors to post pedigrees on individual stalls. I have personally done this for years with success. Simply cover your information with clear contact paper or have it laminated to weather proof for outdoor stalls. Second - as the parent of one of those girls at Libby who dress. I can assure you, that what you don't see from the stands is the price tag on the $2.00 yard sale shirt being worn, and the $12.00 feed store straw hat. All of Laree's vest are sewn by Mom - the most expensive cost $8.00. That one of a kind horse hair flob my daughter wears at her throat, was graciously donated by Opal and Maybelle (close 4-legged friends), and completed with a large gold button purchased at a fabric store. We spend time on show clothes not $$$. By the way I wear black jeans (redyed for the occasion of course), a long sleeved white blouse and vest when I enter the ring. Please remember clothes do not make the presentation, really clean, well trained Fjords, tacked up safely are what I want to see in the showring, although the formal dresses Lisa suggested for the men in the group, would be a refreshing change. Shirley Anderson.
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a relatively new person(1 full year now) to the Fjords, some of the best history and research I have done on these wonderful animals has been thru the pedigree . I have recently found I like a certain stallions offspring, I seem to be able to pick them out of a crowd. Also my mare Opal throws her lovely face on every foal and I was even able to pick her daughter out of the Bushnell's herd!! Having pedigree information in halter classes is something I would love to see. And with the NFHR pedigree search site, I think the information would be easily accessible Would this be a cost prohibitive idea though? I can understand if it isn't available due to this reason, and if its a matter of donating time to help organize the materials I would love to help in any way I can. Last year (1999) was our first year attending Libby, and we went as a spectator, and I can say it was a very fun and friendly place. And I spent as much time introducing myself and trying to meet everyone as I did looking at Fjords. Michele Noonan Stevensville, Montana
Re: The Libby Show, dress, pedigree, etc.
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have once again been lurking for some time, but had to jump in on the Libby / presentation / pedigree conversation. I have to agree with Carol, Karen McCarthy and whoever else believes that a clean, well groomed, neat and attractive turn out lends class to the whole show. I would have to look at our video footage again, but I think that the person who wore the shorts and muck boots may have been in the elimination phase of the driving obstacle course. The elimination phase of this class usually has a large entry, and is held after all of the regular classes are done for the day. The top 5 competitors then run the course the following day, during regular show hours, in front of the audience. This may be the explanation for the driver's casual dress. Don't quote me on this, however! ;-) The last three Libby shows are all melding in my mind, and I'm having trouble separating events. I do believe, for the regular classes, that it is important to show off our horses in the best light. I also believe that, out of respect for the judge, it's important to dress a little bit better than casual (except for the "fun" classes, like gymkana classes and costume classes.) How many times have you seen the judge, standing all day in the heat, snow or whatever, still in a suit jacket, nicely dressed. A nice turnout also says something about the respect you have for your horse. Regarding the factors that are considered in judging a horse in a halter class, certainly grooming and presentation are factored into the judge's impression. At a horse show, judges only have a few minutes to make decisions, and first impressions hold a lot of weight. Watch the judge at the next show you attend. They watch the horses enter the in-gate. If the horse is well mannered, obedient and presented well, a nicely dressed handler is only icing on the cake (Karen - I've seen your wardrobe! Quite impressive!) I'm not talking about a fashion show here, just something conservative between casual and business. You want to keep the judge's attention on your horse, not on you! Also, I have heard judges mention that they like to see horses "show themselves." That means a bright, cheerful, happy expression throughout the presentation of the horse. I've seen horses placed in halter classes higher than some with better conformation because they "showed" better. That's one of differences between a horse show and an evaluation. In regards to pedigrees being announced and printed in the show catalog, I would like to place my vote for both. I would like to be able to watch the halter classes and see what bloodlines are producing what. It has been argued that you could go to the stall area and talk to the horse owner/handler in person, but it you only have a number to reference it makes it very difficult when you're new to everyone. People don't hang their exhibitor's numbers on their stalls, and at Libby the number is associated with the person, not the horse. Halter classes are to show off the conformation/movement quality of your horse, and it would be nice to know the lineage that created that product. Especially in the Product of Dam and Get of Sire classes. They're definately about breeding. Showmanship classes are about the handler, so it would be sufficient to announce the handler of the horse. We really enjoy the Libby show. It's a wonderful place to get together with Fjord folks who, by the way, are some of the most wonderful people to meet. People who are attracted to fjords usually have the nicest personalities. Lots of diverse backgrounds, but usually cheerful and easy to get to know. I really enjoy that, and thank the people who organize this show for putting it on year after year. I also applaud their effort to keep the show accessible to beginners (since this breed seems to attract a lot of newcomers to horses.) It keeps us bringing new friends along. It's a great place to come and learn (as we have) and to share your experiences with your fjords. Sorry about the long post, but Libby is worth talking about. We're "enjoying" some hot (near 90's) weather here in Colorado. Our grass is already turning brown. We could sure use some rain from somewhere! Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO www.starfirefarm.com
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This message is from: Steve Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree wholeheartedly with Carol and Mary. I have been studying purebred animals ever since I had the means and wherewithal to do so. There are few things I enjoy more than going to a specialty dog breed show. I run straight to the info desk to buy a catalog so I can study the dogs as though I were a breeder. I have collected many of these catalogs over the years, they are very special to me and to all serious connoisseurs of the breed. Because I have done this for many years, I can talk pedigrees in a real way with a breeder. If a fellow asks me, "Did you see the yellow Dickendall dog that showed at Chattanooga in 1997, what did you think of him?" I can say, "Yes, I did, the lovely, cobby fellow with a wonderful coat and expression?" I dont have to say, "Yes, I went to that show and there were some yellow dogs there ... " If I am thinking of breeding my precious mare and I am considering a couple of stallions ... I can go to a breed show and study the animals they sired to see which stallion would best nick with my gal. Without a catalog and pen in my hand all those horses in the ring mean nothing to me. If I see one I particularly like, I can try to chase him down after the class ... big deal, it's not the same, that relegates studying the breed to 'who's the cutest boy'. Having pedigrees at hand at a breed show allows breeders to study - in person, hands on even - many animals at the same time, comparing them with one another in a way that one can do no place else but at a breed show. I also agree with the sentiment ... 'what's the point in having halter classes without catalog in hand'. I can't even see me going to a Fjordhorse show until a catalog is available because every single time I saw a mare who carried herself in a particular way, or a stallion who caught my eye, a mare that hatefully pinned her ears back in a very un-Fjordlike manner, or a young one who had a specially delightful personality ... I would ache for a catalog so I could jot a note beside the animals name and get an instant glance at sire/dam/breeder/owner. That's my take on the catalog thing! >> >< <> >< < > >< <
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I must say I agree with Carol when she asks that the pedigrees - at least the sire, dam, dam's sire, and breeder - be included in the program listings for the halter classes. It is very frustrating to see a horse you really like in a halter class and not have the foggiest idea what the horse's breeding is - and maybe not even know who the person is showing the horse, or who the horse belongs to so you can ask them about the bloodlines later on. Halter classes judge the horse - I assume - and are a place to see what is really working as far as breeding goes, and what is not working. Years ago we used to show our breeding stock in halter classes, but stopped doing so for two reasons: 1)inconsistency in judging - how can the same animal place first in a class one year and not even make the cut against essentially the same horses the next year? and 2) even when you did place in a class, those looking on - and maybe looking for breeding stock to buy or breed to - had no idea what the horse's bloodlines were because there was no listing in the program. Used to be - several shows ago - that the announcer at least told the audience what each horse's name was, who owned it and who was showing it, as the horses entered the ring for the halter classes. Not so any more. Could we maybe bring that back as well? So add my name to the list of those who would like to see basic pedigree info in the program for halter classes. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rules are fine if they are there for safety or a logical reason. Rules are not fine if they are there just for tradition or some other frivolous reason (vanity, etc.).
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I must say I agree with Carol when she asks that the pedigrees - at least the sire, dam, dam's sire, and breeder - be included in the program listings for the halter classes. It is very frustrating to see a horse you really like in a halter class and not have the foggiest idea what the horse's breeding is - and maybe not even know who the person is showing the horse, or who the horse belongs to so you can ask them about the bloodlines later on. Halter classes judge the horse - I assume - and are a place to see what is really working as far as breeding goes, and what is not working. Years ago we used to show our breeding stock in halter classes, but stopped doing so for two reasons: 1)inconsistency in judging - how can the same animal place first in a class one year and not even make the cut against essentially the same horses the next year? and 2) even when you did place in a class, those looking on - and maybe looking for breeding stock to buy or breed to - had no idea what the horse's bloodlines were because there was no listing in the program. Used to be - several shows ago - that the announcer at least told the audience what each horse's name was, who owned it and who was showing it, as the horses entered the ring for the halter classes. Not so any more. Could we maybe bring that back as well? So add my name to the list of those who would like to see basic pedigree info in the program for halter classes. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do agree with you Carol regarding lineage of the horses. I also heard this stated by others at the show and think it would be helpful. I agree with you on other things and also disagree. But then that is what helps balance things, if we listen to both sides. I think it is a very friendly show and also would not like to see it become a fashion place. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: The Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I SWEAR ON MY GRANDMOTHER'S GRAVE THAT "I REALLY LOVE LIBBY!" I love my husband too, but that's never stopped me from trying to spiff him up. >This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This is to address some of the points that Carol brought up in her last >post. > >You say that you don't criticize the Libby Show but you always manage in all >of your e-mails either public or in private to focus in on some negative. ~~ My private emails? The only time I recall discussing Libby in a private email (other than urging friends to go) was after that whipping incident I spoke about. At that time, I emailed NFHR VP, Julie Will, about it. She commented that she was not surprised and had seen this person do the same thing at another show. ~~~ >As I said in my prior post, I DON'T RECALL ANYONE IN SHORTS, WORK BOOTS AND >A DIRTY T-SHIRT in any of the classes and neither does anyone else that I >talked to. As to the driver whipping the horse I don't recall that either >but that's now the picture that everyone has. ~~ No, I don't think you're right there. People think of Libby in exactly the way you want them to, and that's a friendly, low-key show. But speaking of "pictures", I took one of the driver in shorts, and will send it to you. ~ As to "inviting dangerous >situations", by allowing in-experienced people to show their horses, how >are they to get any experience if we don't allow them to show somewhere? We >have an excellent safety record at the show. We have never had an accident >in the arena at the Libby show. ~~ I've never seen an accident in the arena, but honestly, it could easily happen. One thing I'd suggest is to divide some of the big classes. ~ As to the "Rickety Antique vehicle", it >was a genuine Antique, the horse was trained, the harness safe and the >driver had spent a lot of time working with his horses, the gentleman in >question takes excellent care of his animals but you've now painted him as >unsafe and out of control and not taking proper care of his animals . It's >just not true! ~~~ I know this man takes excellent care of his animals. I certainly didn't say differently. All I'm talking about is the wisdom of using an antique buggy in that kind of class, which was a speed obstacle class with a lot of fairly sharp turns. The vehicle was a kind of doctor's buggy with a high top, and was never meant for this kind of driving. --- The vehicle was, indeed, very well restored, and in good shape, painted, clean, and shiny. The horse looked wonderful, as did the harness. The whole turnout was beautiful, and very suitable for a Pleasure Driving Class. Probably a winner in a Pleasure Class. --- However, not suitable (in my opinion) for twists, turns, and speed. I'm sorry, but I think it is dangerous to put such an old vehicle under the stresses and strain of a timed Obstacle Cones Course. That's only my opinion. I'm not a driving judge. Maybe there's someone on the list who is. ~ > >As to your "Instructions to the Judge". We give ALL of those instructions >to our judges every year. We tell them that they have absolute authority in >the arena. If they see any kind of abuse, anyone out of control, horse or >person, unsafe tack, harness, vehicle, whatever they are to be excused from >the arena. We want SAFETY. We want a safe environment for the horses and >the exhibitors. ~~ Well, I did see the horse being whipped at the in gate, and others did as well. The judge must not have seen it. -- It was an isolated incident. NOT TYPICAL! I'm just saying that on the rare occasion when something like this does occur, the ring steward or the judge should do something about it. There was another incident a couple of years ago where a person was being really abusive, and I talked with several officials about it, and nothing was done. --- THESE ARE RARE INCIDENTS, but when they do occur, that person should be kicked out of the show. I don't mean kick someone off the
Flyers for the Libby Show
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, Could any of you that want Flyers for the Libby show e-mail us privately. We don't always read all the way through the digest and might miss someone that wanted one. Our e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you'll include your regular mailing address we'll send them out to you, any of you that are going to the Spring PNFPG meeting in Spokane can pick them up there. Thanks for all of your help in advertising the Show, hope to see and meet some of you at Libby this year, be sure and stop by and say hi. Sherrie Dayton
Re: Libby Show 2000
This message is from: Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Ron and Sherrie: Could I please have two flyers to advertise the Libby show. Our address is: Misty Meadows B&B and Fjords 2627 Bukin Dr E Victoria, BC V9E 1H4 Thanks. Often after our guests have spent time trail riding on our fjords, they want to see more. Libby would be a great place to sent them. Cathy Ron & Sherrie Dayton wrote: > This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This message is for all you Fjord lovers out there. We (thePNFPG ad > committee) have just completed the Show Flyer for 2000. This, along with a > swell article by Ursula Jensen, will go out to web sites and many > publications. We are doing some aggressive advertising this year and hope to > draw in a big crowd this year. We still need items for the raffle. > (donations) Your business will be announced as a donator at the show as the > articles are raffled off. (Good advertising for your farm !) > If anyone would like a flyer or two for posting in your area (feed > stores, tack shops, etc.) let me know and I will send you some copies. On > behalf of the members of the ad committee, I want to thank all the good > folks who have been so supportive of the Libby Show and have worked so hard > to make it a success. > > " Happy Trails "RD
Re: Libby Show 2000
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Ron & Sherrie, Please send at least 10 flyers up my way if possible. Between myself, Chip Lamb and maybe Shirley Anderson we can cover the Sandpoint - Naples - Bonners Ferry area. Oh ... when are you planning the "button making"? Please let me know. We are definately moving to Bozeman around May 1st but until then, I am available to help out here. Thanks! Sarah Nagel -Original Message- From: Ron & Sherrie Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:11 AM Subject: Libby Show 2000 >This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >This message is for all you Fjord lovers out there. We (thePNFPG ad >committee) have just completed the Show Flyer for 2000. This, along with a >swell article by Ursula Jensen, will go out to web sites and many >publications. We are doing some aggressive advertising this year and hope to >draw in a big crowd this year. We still need items for the raffle. >(donations) Your business will be announced as a donator at the show as the >articles are raffled off. (Good advertising for your farm !) >If anyone would like a flyer or two for posting in your area (feed >stores, tack shops, etc.) let me know and I will send you some copies. On >behalf of the members of the ad committee, I want to thank all the good >folks who have been so supportive of the Libby Show and have worked so hard >to make it a success. > >" Happy Trails "RD > >
Re: Libby Show 2000
This message is from: "linda hickam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like a couple of flyers to spread around..Linda Hickam 2988 S.Locust Gr., Kuna,ID 83634 thanks LindaI -- >From: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject: Libby Show 2000 >Date: Fri, Mar 17, 2000, 1:19 PM > >This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >This message is for all you Fjord lovers out there. We (thePNFPG ad >committee) have just completed the Show Flyer for 2000. This, along with a >swell article by Ursula Jensen, will go out to web sites and many >publications. We are doing some aggressive advertising this year and hope to >draw in a big crowd this year. We still need items for the raffle. >(donations) Your business will be announced as a donator at the show as the >articles are raffled off. (Good advertising for your farm !) >If anyone would like a flyer or two for posting in your area (feed >stores, tack shops, etc.) let me know and I will send you some copies. On >behalf of the members of the ad committee, I want to thank all the good >folks who have been so supportive of the Libby Show and have worked so hard >to make it a success. > >" Happy Trails "RD > >
Libby Show 2000
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is for all you Fjord lovers out there. We (thePNFPG ad committee) have just completed the Show Flyer for 2000. This, along with a swell article by Ursula Jensen, will go out to web sites and many publications. We are doing some aggressive advertising this year and hope to draw in a big crowd this year. We still need items for the raffle. (donations) Your business will be announced as a donator at the show as the articles are raffled off. (Good advertising for your farm !) If anyone would like a flyer or two for posting in your area (feed stores, tack shops, etc.) let me know and I will send you some copies. On behalf of the members of the ad committee, I want to thank all the good folks who have been so supportive of the Libby Show and have worked so hard to make it a success. " Happy Trails "RD
Re: Horse with long mane & Libby Show
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 01:42 PM 9/18/99 -0300, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) > >The problem is that they do not give any information regarding SIRE, DAM, >DAM'S SIRE & BREEDER in any of the halter classes. I believe that this >information should be in the Program. as many of them were >eager to learn all they could about Fjords. > Halter >Classes a wonderful opportunity to educate ourselves about bloodlines? I was >particularly pleased to see how well "Obie" is coming along under Beth's >expert guidance. He's a love! Absolutely gorgeous, and the sweetest >tempered stallion anyone could hope to see. > >Regards, Carol Commenting on these two things you mention Carol; I too would enjoy having the lineage of the halter classes available. It seems like there was an opposing reason not to though when this was brought up before, but it sure would be interesting. I was very pleased to discover Obelisk in attendance at Libby as I had greatly admired him from his pictures.. He is a magnificant horse! Ruthie
Re: Horse with long mane & Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi Everybody! from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - >This message is from: "cnielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >hi list- I was at villa Louis, it was a great show. the mystery tandem was >Susan keating with her older fjord geldings. the horse with the long mane >was liesl Thomas with a mare that I heard was a full sister to kanada >king.they both did a great job! I've just returned from Libby (had a wonderful time, as usual), and trying to catch up a bit on the List. The "horse with the long mane" must be BDF LIZA (Gjest x Stine), a full sister to BDF KANADA KING, BDF MALCOLM LOCKE & BDF OBELISK (winner of the 2 yr. old Stallion Class at Libby). Liza is owned by Marilyn Radke from Wisconsin, and Marylyn's daughter's name is Liesel. Liza is such a beautiful mare that she merited the only full-page photo in my book, long mane and all. Marilyn tells me that she moves just as well as BDF Kanada King, and the other siblings. I wish I'd seen her. Libby was so much fun as usual, and I urge all of you to attend in 2000. Competitors are already talking about making it a really big show! As wonderful a show as this is, it could be even better, and I offer up these suggestions: Actually, I've made the same suggestions for several years, but the committee has always decided against, after discussing the issue. I don't know their reasoning. The problem is that they do not give any information regarding SIRE, DAM, DAM'S SIRE & BREEDER in any of the halter classes. I believe that this information should be in the Program. This is accepted procedure at dog breed shows and horse breed shows. If this information is not available to those watching the Halter Classes, how are they going to learn anything at all about the individual horses being shown and the bloodlines? I was in the stands surrounded by new Fjord people and wannabees, and they were ALL astounded that this critical information was not provided. They couldn't believe it wasn't, and were very disappointed as many of them were eager to learn all they could about Fjords. For instance, if a young horse placed well, or poorly in these conformation classes, it means very little if those watching haven't a clue as to parentage. This problem was really obvious during two classes at the show - GET OF SIRE CLASS and the PRODUCE OF DAM CLASS. The rules said that the "sire" and "dam" whose get and produce were being judged, did not have to be present . . . and they weren't. So, the produce and the get were lined up in the two classes, and the judge placed them, and nowhere was there any indication what sire or what dam had produced these winning horses. The announced was also silent on the subject. Hey! Am I crazy, or what? Aren't we missing the boat here? Aren't Halter Classes a wonderful opportunity to educate ourselves about bloodlines? What does the Education Committee think of this issue? To sum up - I think the following information should be in the program for each horse participating in the show: sire - dam - damn's sire - breeder. Woodstock, Blue Earth, Libby & Turlock (? - not sure about Turlock) are Breed Shows. These are the places we go to show our breed, learn about the breed, buy and sell. In my oppinion, we need the above information in the program. And, for something like a GET OF SIRE CLASS, or a PRODUCE OF DAM CLASS, the names of the "sire" and "dam" should be announced. Seems kind of pointless, otherwise. On an upbeat note . . . I was thrilled to accompany the Starfire Farm team to Libby, and to see BDF John Arthur, BDF Magnum & BDF Obelisk, or THE BDF BOYS, as Beth and Sandy call them, bring home the blues. I was particularly pleased to see how well "Obie" is coming along under Beth's expert guidance. He's a love! Absolutely gorgeous, and the sweetest tempered stallion anyone could hope to see. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Re: Libby show
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Yo Gayle (somehow fouled up my signature!) ((When I innocently try something with this [EMAIL PROTECTED]& machine it goes wrong)) thanks for such a great tale about Libby. Had me in tears too on Dusty's win. What a neat fellow. Of course he must feel terrible about kicking you in his scramble to get up. I must say having seen Erlend he is pretty also. Kongaard is unknown to me so far. Noticed Carol watching these boys quite carefully Well you are a trooper for going from the emergency room to the winners circle. Jean
Dustin at Libby Show
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:12 PM 9/18/99 EDT, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Libby show Gayle, from the sounds of your letter you're still buoyed with success and rightly so! We all congratulate you! Your intermission performances with Dustin brought tears to my eyes; such skill! (no evidence of a kick in the head!) Not many could even imagine what all has led up to your highly skilled riding but it's all-apparent that you and Dustin have rode "a million miles" together. I'm glad your day of triumph happened at Libby, because you lived here formerly, and hope that helped make it special for you too. It was nice talking to you, hope to see you again next year! Ruthie Bushnell
Libby show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List, I am finally able to catch up after returning from the Libby show long enough to write a few lines here. It was another great show and the weather was perfect - for us and the yellow jackets! It was a real treat to meet so many of the folks from this 'list' and be able to put faces to names as well as to see 'old' friends again. For a while there, I was wondering if we'd be able to make it to Libby. The Sun. before we left, Dusty had gotten cast in his stall and while helping him get 'upright' he schmucked me in the forehead with a hind foot - brand new sliders and all. SOOO, I spent the afternoon in the emergency room getting stitched back together! Sure put a damper on my schedule for packing! Yet another lesson learned the hard way. Next time I'll use a rope so that I'm out of harm's way! By the time we rolled into Libby I was sporting a lot of RED EYESHADOW - not my favorite color! Wasn't sure I'd even be able to wear a hat because the stitches were right above my eye. It was a bit painful trying to cram that hat down far enough! Lotsa make-up and ice packs hid it pretty well. I had been particularly anxious for Libby this year because I wanted to see Erland and to meet Ceacy in person. I did not know that she would be bringing Kongaard. I was so anxious for Ceacy to unload him from the trailer! I have admired these stallions from afar from their ads in the Herald and could hardly wait to see them in the flesh! I was not disappointed. Both are very nice guys! Boy you talk about one powerful representation of Fjord STALLIONS at that show!! The halter classes were on Fri. We had brought a yearling gelding out of my junior stallion, Majson. He was entered in the 1-2 year old geldings. This was his very first trip away from home. I had wondered how he would handle all of the hoopla and commotion? He took it all in stride like he'd been doing this forever! What a cool little boy! I was tickled to pieces when he won that class!! He just looked around wondering what all of the shouting was about?! This fella is for sale BTW. If anyone is interested they can contact me privately. The next class for us was the 3 - 6 Year Old Geldings. We had brought Debbie Brown and her gelding, Quad L's Reidar, a son of Dusty's. She did an excellent job of presenting him and he won his class also. Boy, was she happy, to say the least! Debbie gets a bit excited shall we say?! The next class for us was the 3 - 6 Year Old Mares. Patty Peterson, from Libby, showed her mare, Dustenai, a daughter of Dusty's, whom I might add is in foal to our junior stallion. That was a very nice mares class. Dustenai was pulled out in the top 3 cut, but I knew the judge had not made his final decision at that point. Talk about a 'nail-biter'! Talk about HOOPLA when Dustenai was announced as the winner!! A few tears, too, I might add! We were now 3 for 3 in halter! However, talk about PRESSURE! Now it's dear old Dusty's turn! It was a bit INTENSE for me to say the least. As I was preparing to enter the ring and trying to shake off the 'nerves', I was thinking how each one of these stallions was a champion in their own right, what a display of stallion power represented from the East coast to the West! I wanted to run and hide before I threw up! When Dusty was announced as the winner, you talk about HOOPLA! I was trying to retain some sort of 'professional looking' composure, but really needed to go hide somewhere so that when I cried, no one would see all of that make-up covering my RED EYESHADOW, running off of my chin! It was definitely our day to have a moment in the sun. I told my barn crew that I didn't care if we all fell off and spent the rest of the weekend picking dirt out of our teeth! Later we gathered everyone together for a 'family portrait,' each of them sporting their big, beautiful, BLUE neck ribbons. Decided blue was our favorite color!! Can't wait to get the photos!! The remainder of the weekend was a blast as usual. Beth's synapses from yesterday's Digest was right on. Thanx, Beth, for choreographing our 'drill team' routine. Bet you won't let yourself get volunteered for that again! You have the patience of Job! The 'horse' that I was given to ride needed a bit more training. It was on the wrong lead -- could it have been the rider? LOL! Thanx once again to the Libby show committee -- yet one more successful show under your belt. Good luck to those of you headed for Turlock. Wish we could be there, too, but the thought of another long road trip this soon is not very appealing at the moment! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
Re: Libby Show and conversations
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth sorry I missed you too. That stick horse and the gang was great. We all had a good laugh and really it was done quite well. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Libby Show and conversations
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, Sorry about the late news on the subject, but we are finally back from the Libby show, and what a wonderful time we had. This was our third year, and each year keeps us coming back. We brought home quite a few ribbons, which just adds icing to the cake. The highlight for me was participating in the log skid. John Arthur took first, Magnum took second! (Brian J., look out for next year. Looking forward to log skid 2000! By the way, we were also ready for the "1 foot, two foot, three foot" test part of the skid, but it wasn't done.) We might have been fast, but several other teamsters, like Bob Rosen and Stillmeadows Eva, performed the log skid with beautiful technical skill and precision. John Arthur won the first Fjord Versatility award which required entry in the log skid, single horse pleasure driving, open english pleasure and open western pleasure. All those tack changes! I was very proud of our new stallion, Obelisk, who showed us that he keeps his wonderful, laid back, easy going attitude even when on the road and separated from his buddies on the show grounds. Woody Hoopes and Elfin were magnificent in their fully restored, authentic, 1800's Dr's. Buggy. It was quite a sight watching that buggy skidding around the corners in the cones course! Alan Quimby and Nancy Lehnert gave us a thrill in the driven barrel race. Alan drove his team while standing on his log carrier (what is that thing, anyway?) and won the race (breaking from the trot was a disqualification.) Nancy also drove Alan's team and, after going off course, said "what the heck" and galloped the remainder of the course to enthusiastic cheers and applause from the audience. The novice classes were well attended with some very nice performances on the rail (go Peg!) Erlend was magnificent in english pleasure, both novice rider and open english pleasure. Gayle and Dusty wowed everyone with their reining freestyle on Sat. and Sun. It was wonderful to be able to meet Ceacy and Kongard in person. And if you've ever seen Siri Pearson and Toby, and Laree Anderson and Bud in western pleasure, stock seat, and the bareback jousting class, well, you know what poetry in motion is. Those girls can sure ride! Winning is secondary to the comraderie and meeting new friends. Quite a few people showed up for the friday evening mailing list pot luck. I wish I could have spoken with everyone. It was great to meet Jean E. (somehow, I missed Jean G!) Betsy B., Ceacy H., Nancy L., Peg K., etc. There were so many people that I didn't get to meet everyone. Steve McIlree was also there, guess that's why the list went haywire, eh, Steve? You can never leave home again. Catherine L. pulled together a great group of women (Gayle Ware, Mel Thomas, Sue Giargiari, Catherine Lassessen, Peg Knutsen, Ceacy Henderson and Sandy North, just to name a few) and roped me into choreographing an inpromptu quadrille with 12 "riders" on the adorable stick fjord ponies that Kathy Rollins had for sale. The girls learned a routine in about 15 minutes and performed it on Saturday. They did a great job, threading the needle, accurate circles (a little bit of bucking) and finishing with a spectacular pinwheel. All done to music by the Dixie Chicks which was supplied by Aaren Jensen. If anyone got that on video tape, let me know. We only got the very end on tape. Could be some good blackmail material there. Just kidding, it was great! What are we going to do next year, girls? Thanks to the PNFPG for putting on a great show, as usual. The theme for the parade this year was "Fjords, Family, Friends and Fun" (I think) and this event has truly become a friendly, family, and fun time for us. See you all in 2000. About the conversations on the list: The idea is to have it like a conversation sitting around a table (like a kitchen table, or something) and having a friendly chat. When having a conversation like that, the thread usually drifts to various topics, That's what makes conversations interesting. I enjoy reading about other peoples' events, concerns, etc., whether they be about fjords or ducks. I've learned some very interesting things on this list, and enjoy everyone's stories, even though I don't have much time to add my input. Keep it up folks! Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby show '99
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great idea Elaine. I would also love one, Wal-mart size! Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Re: Libby show '99
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> good idea elaine! I'd buy one. denise d.
Re: Libby show '99
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any chance of a Fjord Flag being available for sale? I know they sell a lot of different horse flags. It sure would look great at the entrance of my barn. Elaine Olsen
Re: Libby show '99
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rollins) Just a note to thank those who helped out in the promotional booth at the show this year: Barbara Neufeld, Marge Johnson, Sally Webber, Denise Hoopes, Patty Peterson, Phyllis Hogue, Lois Berge, and anyone I may have missed! I appreciated your willingness to "do the booth" and greet people. We sold a lot of products this year. I hope people enjoy some of the new items! If you have an idea for an item you would like to see please let me know so I can work on getting it made before next year's show. Also, many thanks to Dennis Johnson for adding on a storage area to the booth and for hauling it to the show and back. That made two trips to Libby and back for him! Respectfully, Kathy Rollins, retired promo chair (sort of...) ps. Many thanks also to Sue G. from N.H. for handling the sale of some of our products back east to our fjord friends there:)
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This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list, We also are just back from the Libby Show. This list was certainly busy while we were gone! The easy way to stop a flaming war? DON'T RESPOND!! The Libby Show was great fun. We only came home with one ribbon between us, but then we went with green horses with only about 60 days training on them. The rest of the summer they had spent riding on trails. The ribbon was won by my husband, who only began riding in June. (Yes, Wayne, that is true). Needless to say we are proud of him and it gave a big boost to his sometimes bruised ego (along with various other parts of his anatomy which have been bruised during the learning process). The show was very well organized this year. Quite a feat considering the numbers involved. Some of the classes were huge! Brian and Ursula's randem hitch was a real hit!! You had to see it to believe it. To our fearless judge, Wayne. Many, many thanks for a job well done. You were great. Can't imagine being out in that arena all those hours in that heat. The comments you made after each class over the mike were very helpful. Education at its best. BTW to the rest of you, Wayne also offers comments, suggestions, helpful hints, etc., while you are presenting your horse, which is VERY HELPFUL because it happens while you are doing it so you never forget. Again, Wayne, many thanks. Please keep on doing it just like you do. (Yes, I still remember my number. It's 120!) == Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
