Re: OT /Note to list...
Once upon a time (Fri Feb 03), Amber Robey wrote: Listen everybody - I am not trying to make things difficult for any you. I am honestly just trying to keep the list running smoothly and enforce the LEM list rules. That's all. I've operated a fairly large, and used-to-be extremely busy, mailing list since the mid 90s. Years and years ago I wrote a Perl script I called Mommy. Mommy processes the email sent to the list before the list software (Majordomo first, now Mailman) sees it. Mommy rejects email that contains the list signature or a fragment thereof, uses an unmodified digest subject, has an excessive quoted-to-original text ratio (detecting repetitive filler as well), has unbroken all-on-one-line paragraphs, et cetera. It is inflexible, unforgiving, and provides instant negative feedback to the non-compliant. Lots of people have hated Mommy over the years. I think more though have appreciated it. We have the rules in place to make the messages easier for everybody to read and enjoy, particularly those who have to use text readers. It's amazing how many people hate having some simple rules in place, intended to make life easier for ALL subscribers (including those using an ADM3A and /usr/bin/mail), because said rules require them to actually expend more effort than merely click Reply, type their thoughts, and click Send. I truly feel for you Amber. Larry -- Lawrence Weeks[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anabasis Consulting Ltd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules
Once upon a time (Fri Feb 03), phoenix wrote: It's unfortunate that AOL and the advent of free webmail (which almost always has lazy users top-posting and including /everything/ in the previous message) have utterly destroyed what was once a far more pleasant means of communication, but once things start sliding down a greased shit-chute to hell, there's no stopping it... Ah... I still remember that fateful day when AOL (always mis-remembered it as Prodigy until I just googled it) unleashed its unwashed masses onto Usenet ... into alt.best.of.internet. Oh, the uproar. The cabal was not happy! Larry -- Lawrence Weeks[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anabasis Consulting Ltd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: adding Classic to Pismo running Tiger?
On Feb 2, 2006, at 9:32 pm, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: Hello All I've been loving Tiger on my 500 MHz Pismo but I want to figure out a SCSI connection before I sell off the trusty Lombard and the best solution I've found to date is a USB to SCSI adapter that only runs under OS9. So I want to install Classic on the Pismo. The Pismo has a 40 Gb hard drive with 19 Gb used. Get Info identifies it as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Can I just install OS9 or do I need to partition the disk first? If I need to partition can I copy the Tiger installation to my external Firewire disk, partition the Pismo drive and copy the Tiger installation back? Is there a better way? Thanks Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? Andrew, you do not need to partition the disk. Just go ahead and install OS 9. A;an -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
Hear hear! I often read this list on my Palm Treo wonder box, but its mighty expensive and tough scrolling if its full of uneccessary verbage. As for the bad responses recieved, I am ashamed as a Mac user that colleagues could behave in such a way... shame on you! Stay tight Amber, thank you very much. Mark Amber spake thus: We have the rules in place to make the messages easier for everybody to read and enjoy, particularly those who have to use text readers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
Actually Tim, these rules have been in existence for at least a year. As Laurent said in his first note, they are not up for debate. If you are not willing or able to follow them, you might as well unsubscribe from this list too. Amber Robey G-Books List Manager Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us. Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am confused. Tim Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote: I have broadband cable.doesn't cost me anything other than what I pay monthly. For that matter, I haven't seen any ISP's that charge by the minute lately..what, in years? Tim On Feb 2, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:21 PM, G-Books wrote: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:56:48 -0500 Subject: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2) From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include the info footer that is added to every message. And we sometimes see footer after footer after footer. For some folks, that takes time on line, which costs real money. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. Exterminate all rational thought. So much for bottom posting, eh? THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. This is the type that I usually just ignore and go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this to a vote. Tim Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote: OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am confused. Tim Exterminate all rational thought. Most likely has more to do with the ads at the bottom of each post. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Current NASA scientists not included. Peter Apockotos http://www.apockotos.com http://www.macmariner.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Backlit keyboards
Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit keyboard - which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off without any reason as far as I can tell. Is there anything can be done about this? At the moment it works about as well as voice recognition (Tell me a joke!). all the best Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Backlit keyboards
Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit keyboard - which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off without any reason as far as I can tell. Is there anything can be done about this? Not just me then, I've been under whelmed by this - have to be in a totally dark room to be able to see it. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Backlit keyboards
On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Brian Steere wrote: Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit keyboard - which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off without any reason as far as I can tell. Is there anything can be done about this? I also recently bought an older PB1.67, backlit keys are cool, but it's got to be pretty dark for them to light up, and they don't stay on for long. I'd really like to know if there's any way to set its preferences for turning on and staying on. Seth --- Seth Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sethausten.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: CD-ROM booting
I've got an old Toshiba 10X CD-ROM that I swapped into my Lombard, because the stock DVD-ROM was getting flaky, but it's not letting me boot from a known good SuSE Linux disc, even though it shows up in the Finder perfectly fine. Any suggestions? The drive starts to spin up, but it defaults to the hard drive before it can do anything with the CD. Drive set to Slave rather than Master ? Can you force booting via the C key ? -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: The gimp and nvu open soirce software
I recently came across a nice photoshop like application. Its an open source program. www.gimp.org works with photo retouching image authoring. I have been playing with Steve - I downloaded it. Wow! Is this complex to someone who has only been working with Apple's iPhoto. Would you know a good URL for instructions on how to use these tools. Does Gimp offer any help files? Thanks, bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
On 2/3/06, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for bottom posting, eh? THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. This is the type that I usually just ignore and go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this to a vote. Tim This is all silly and wastesful.. It's very simple, just do it and move on with the topic of G-Books. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Clamshell rejuvenation
--- Terry McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all and thanks in advance for any tips/advice. As a project in my retirement, I'm going to resuscitate my original iBook. Can any old 2.5 mm drive do? ATA or IDE? Is one brand better than another? How much of an issue is disc speed? Terry McCune 1. I bought 2 new batteries from ebay for my sons' iBooks for about $75 each, shipping included, and they are holing around 3-4 hours. I'll dig up the info if you are interested (my post on this may be in the archive from last summer). Their regular price on their web site is $99! 2. While you are at it, max the RAM. You'll be glad you did. :-) 3. Drive speed makes almost as much difference on older G3s as it does on newer models. If you can afford a 5400 or higher speed drive, I'd say do it. 4. New drives should be 9.5mm or less in height. Otherwise any ATA laptop drive should do (but see the drive caveat over at Other World Computing - I don't recall if their note includes the clamshell or not). 5. FWIW, you can put some CD-RW drives in a clamshell, although you'll need to modify the bezel if you want it to look stock and have the eject button work (not really an issue if you are running OS X). Otherwise, the stock PC bezel will fit or can be made to fit with a little trimming. Just a thought. There's good info at Accelerate Your Mac (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com) on compatable drives (hard drives, too!). 6. Getting the top cover back in place, for me, was the most difficult part (the only difficult part, really). I think there's still a small gap on the top left on my one son's iBook. It's tedious, but be patient. It should go fine. 7. As to drive brand, I've heard praises and gripes about every brand. I think IBM/Hitachi and Toshiba are the main laptop drive brands right now. Good luck. Regards, Bob Eye Dallas, TX -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
Tim Collier wrote: THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. This is the type that I usually just ignore and go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this to a vote. I vote that Tim learn to delete all unnecessary text when he replies to an e-mail. Woody -- Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]
On 2/3/06, phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today. In a previous life as a programmer, any bloat in the apps we were writing was caused less by Lazy Programmers, and more by impossibly tight deadlines (as well as the aforementioned feature creep, both caused by a project manager who just couldn't comprehend the fact that if a customer request was not in the original specs for the project, he was allowed to say no. His favorite line, whenever one of us would point out the feature creep and deadline issues was it's not rocket science (his background was actually in rocket science). To this day, I wish I would've turned to him and said you're right, it's not rocket science, it's computer science, good thing you hired programmers instead of aeronautical engineers. Fortunately for my employment status at the time, I resisted that urge. My point is that yes, there are lazy programmers out there (I've worked with some of them), but unfortunately, a lot of times the programmers are forced to take shortcuts that cause bloat, merely because they have no choice. Someone much higher then themselves in the chain of command has decreed that the app will ship on a specific date, and it's their job to put something together that is basically functional to ship on time, and then keep working on the first update pack to fix all the bugs you already know about, as well as all the bugs that the users will undoubtedly find. Kurt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote: My point is that yes, there are lazy programmers out there (I've worked with some of them), but unfortunately, a lot of times the programmers are forced to take shortcuts that cause bloat, merely because they have no choice. Someone much higher then themselves in the chain of command has decreed that the app will ship on a specific date, and it's their job to put something together that is basically functional to ship on time, and then keep working on the first update pack to fix all the bugs you already know about, as well as all the bugs that the users will undoubtedly find. Kurt Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed too quickly. Peter Apockotos http://www.apockotos.com http://www.macmariner.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules
All of that takes several actions and time. I am active on many lists, and if bottom posting is preferred, it would be simpler if there were a way to make that the default. Well, under Options in Outlook Express 5.06 there is a radio button where you can select whether your reply will be typed in front or after the quoted text. This oughta be possilbe in every decent mail program, oughtn't it? Udo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days
On Feb 2, 2006, at 23:53, G-Books wrote: The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. You would think it would be the reverse. It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you to buy the latest release. Hardware companies need to persuade you that you need new features (video editing anyone?) so they can sell you faster hardware. Planned obsolescence makes the wheels of industry turn (and produces some cool geek bling). Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]
On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed too quickly. Peter Apockotos Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing. Kurt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: setting bottom post not required in Mail
On Feb 2, 2006, at 23:53, G-Books wrote: Most people know how to highlight text, hit delete, move the courser and type information into a new location. Why would you need to set your e-mail program to reply to any message. I'm using Mail in Panther and all I do is highlight the text I want to quote and hit reply. The cursor does end up above the quote but it's just one click to get it below. Filling the subject line is more aggravation since I get the digest so the default subject is always G-books Digest Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you to buy the latest release. Hardware companies need to persuade you that you need new features (video editing anyone?) so they can sell you faster hardware. Planned obsolescence makes the wheels of industry turn (and produces some cool geek bling). More features the better. But instead of reinventing, they just add on the bloat. When it comes to software. Reinventing the wheel could be the better choice. Peter Apockotos http://www.apockotos.com http://www.macmariner.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote: On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed too quickly. Peter Apockotos Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing. Kurt I think rushing is it. It's all about how much we can sell this quarter. Peter Apockotos http://www.apockotos.com http://www.macmariner.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
Tim Collier writes: THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. It's only a waste of time when the previous poster leaves *ALL* of the quoted text in place. Quote only what you need, dump the rest. The post you're reading right now is at least as readable as any you will ever read. Doesn't AOL offer free classes in this stuff by now? cheers, A.J. -- Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting -- Steve McQueen -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wi-fi card Initialization Procedure for Airport.
Yes, it's in OS 9.0 but I've obviously got a problem of some sort. I think that I now know the card works... But in the 2400 nothing. I've got Airport installed... I suppose it's possible that the PC card cage or whatever is non-functional. Have you tried both slots? On 2/1/06 8:14 PM, Illovox Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, let's not jump to conclusions...is this in 9? Orinoco Silvers work across the board, unless broken. If 9, you need to put the card in before power on, then once booted... I have tried both slots. Just to double check I know what I'm doing (questionable) - I should have either Airport or the Orinoco drivers installed, correct? That's how I interpreted the instructions from Orinoco. If using Orinoco drivers delete all other card drivers. Does this sound right? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Woody Duncan wrote: Woody And I remember when holes in a stack of punch cards sorted with long metal rods was considered state of the art. Of course they taught me to read a slide rule and set metal type by hand when I was in High School. Wow, another old fart like me ;-) They started us on hand-set type, but the local papers had just gone to a photo-offset system so our HS printshop was gifted with three Linotype machines. Mmmm...hot lead and real ink! -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: open source software and Macs
On Feb 2, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Tim Collier wrote: You know how when you open Word, you get that little Window over on the right for formatting? Windows version never had that, you always had to search and eventually find the formatting that you wanted. That's been available for years, it just wasn't torn off by default. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules
On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I don't see any way to set Mac Mail to do this by default. Am I missing something? Hmmm, that might be a problem. I checked myself (I'm using Entourage) and I couldn't find any way to set Mail to bottom post when replying. So, as such, I asked the List Mom about this and will let the list know what we will do about it. Alas, there's no way to do it, however, you can simply select what you want to quote, getting rid of all the excess verbiage (as I just did), then do ONE FREAKIN' MOUSE CLICK to position the cursor in the right place. That too much? Control-down arrow takes you to the end of the message. If that's too much work, then perhaps you're not thinking hard enough about your reply. to steal the old This Old House adage: Think twice, post once ... this will smooth a lot of bumps out of the road. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: The gimp and nvu open soirce software
On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:01 AM, bobgir2004 wrote: I recently came across a nice photoshop like application. Its an open source program. www.gimp.org works with photo retouching image authoring. I have been playing with Steve - I downloaded it. Wow! Is this complex to someone who has only been working with Apple's iPhoto. Would you know a good URL for instructions on how to use these tools. Does Gimp offer any help files? Google for GIMP tutorials...it is a complex program, written by geeks for geeks. There's a version that's set up more like Photoshop for menu layout and such http://tinyurl.com/7zjlw This is the whole app, precompiled for OS X 10.3 and 10.4. There's also some books, Sams has a Teach yourself the GIMP in 24 Hours. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
We just got words from Dan, the List Mom, about the top-bottom posting issue and here is what he said: The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email client. We established the rule for four reasons: 1. It's logical. It shows the flow from message to response. 2. It makes it possible to read a reply without having to skip past the new text to read the quoted material it's responding to. If the thread hasn't been active for a day or two - or you've been away from email over the weekend - this is very helpful. 3. Bottom posting forces people to see how much they're quoting and should act as a visual reminder not to quote everything. 4. Finally, it's nice to have consistency. This is all about best practices, not default email software behavior. Dan So, folks, better get used to it. I am not happy to have to remind people but we've been asked to so I'm just carrying on. Let's not turn this into a debate as to whether top or bottom posting is best, OK? Now resuming our G-Books regular content... -Laurent. G-Books List Nanny -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
Anne, I certainly appreciate the thankless job you and all the other listmoms do. Illigitimi non carborundum -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:31 AM, MorningAJ wrote: Tim Collier writes: THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. It's only a waste of time when the previous poster leaves *ALL* of the quoted text in place. Quote only what you need, dump the rest. The post you're reading right now is at least as readable as any you will ever read. Doesn't AOL offer free classes in this stuff by now? I read this AM that AOL will start charging mailing list owners for content sent to their list members- if you aren't whitelisted, it will not be delivered. Other big mail services (yahoo etc) should follow. mailing list is a little vague but it mentions specifically enabling/disabling HTML links,etc, which content makes up 80% of 90% of the body in posts on the LEMlists (long footers). B http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301 AOL announced on January 30 that it will phase out its Enhanced Whitelist service in June in favour of Goodmail CertifiedEmail, which carries an as yet unspecified per-message fee. Until now, a mailing list gets on the AOL whitelist by following good e-mail practices, such as cleaning up dead addresses, making it easy for people to leave mailing lists, and of course not sending any spam. This is all going to be thrown out the window and replaced with the payment of hard currency to Goodmail. People who can afford to pay this fee will have the privilege of reaching AOL subscribers, others will end up in junk folders. Yahoo is expected to follow down the same path. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: setting bottom post not required in Mail
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: I'm using Mail in Panther and all I do is highlight the text I want to quote and hit reply. The cursor does end up above the quote but it's just one click to get it below. Filling the subject line is more aggravation since I get the digest so the default subject is always G-books Digest Andrew in Ann Arbor Works, thank you. Now I can go on disturbing the comfortable—and humorless geeks. Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
On 3-Feb-06, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Anne, I certainly appreciate the thankless job you and all the other listmoms do. Illigitimi non carborundum -- Bruce Johnson Hi Bruce, I really appreciate this note. Thank you ! Amber :-) G-Books Assistant List Manager/nanny -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
ipod novice
I use a G-4 powerbook, OS 10.4. I recently got an ipod to hold photos (triplet grandkids) and some music. I'm confused on uploading new music without losing the old tunes on the ipod. When I add new stuff to my itunes and then want to put them on my ipod, do I have to upload everything (takes forever) or can I just add some additional music ? A Real Novice, Woody -- Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
My reply follows quote. On 2/3/06, at 5:53 AM -0500, Tim Collier wrote: THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw (snip) go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this to a vote. I've been a list nanny since we started having nannies, and on one of the oldest lists, the quadlist. The lists are not a democracy. There is no voting. If you don't like following rules meant for the good of all, unsubscribe. It's not a dictatorship either. That said, there have always been people who top-posted. It's a pain. Courtesy to aid effective communication is the object here. Just as we DON'T POST IN ALL CAPS we have a number of other conventions to extend courtesy as we wish it extended to us. The top posting rules is a lot older than a year. (snip) ing long quotes to the minimum is another courtesy. But, Tim has put his finger on it. If we don't use the rules effectively, people will not read our thoughts. The delete key is a lot easier than scrolling through a lot of repetative junk. I'd suggest a look-see at the list rules (http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/rules.html) or I'll be glad to send them to you by e-mail. -- HTH Paul (pjspop @ bresnan.net) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ipod novice
On 3-Feb-06, at 9:58 AM, Woody Duncan wrote: I'm confused on uploading new music without losing the old tunes on the ipod. Hello Woody, First - congrats on your triplet grandkids !! Second - regarding the iPod - whenever you plug your iPod into your Powerbook, it will be automatically updated to include any songs or playlists you have added to your iTunes library since your last update. Remember that the iPod has a hard drive so, like your Powerbook, you just add to the items already on there each time you update as opposed to completely overwriting them. I hope this helps, Amber PS. It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or external hard drive from time to time. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us. On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote: OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am confused. It becomes an issue Tim if there are irresponsible statements that's come to members attention such as when you read something you are with us or against us. I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of the admin. Clem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. You would think it would be the reverse. It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you to buy the latest release. Hardware companies need to persuade you that you need new features (video editing anyone?) so they can sell you faster hardware. Planned obsolescence makes the wheels of industry turn (and produces some cool geek bling). Andrew in Ann Arbor And whether it be Mac or Intel, Micro$soft or Motorola, it keeps the economy going. The idea is to buy, buy, buy. This iBook is the 2nd new Mac I've ever had—the first was a Classic: six or so others were all 2nd or 3rd hand. I won't tell you how I got most software because it will start more arguments about Respect For The Law. I'm a crappy consumer, not putting my shoulder to the wheel any more than necessary. That's why I like low-end Mac — there are more than enough sites and posts about high-end Mac. Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote: Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us. On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It becomes an issue Tim if there are irresponsible statements that's come to members attention such as when you read something you are with us or against us. I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of the admin. Clem I am surprised that if you don't bottom post the terrorist will win didn't come out. Peter Apockotos http://www.apockotos.com http://www.macmariner.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ipod novice
Amber wrote: It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or external hard drive from time to time. Thanks Amber, I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web. itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays on my laptop but I'd like it on the go. Is there a way to convert it so it loads and plays on the ipod ? Woody PS: I had little to do with having triplet grandkids other than supplying good genes. Oh, I did provide a credit card to cover the in vitro cost. -- Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
On Fri Feb 03, Amber Robey wrote: Listen everybody - I am not trying to make things difficult for any you. I am honestly just trying to keep the list running smoothly and enforce the LEM list rules. That's all. Aside from my one snip about bottom posting, I was going to refrain from entering this dialogue. However, this all really touches upon a pet peeve of mine - people who voluntarily join a group, are directed to the rules to the group, implicitly agree to them, then raise all manner of hell when they're asked to actually gasp comply. Get over yourselves. If you don't like them, either *respectfully* challenge them or move on. It's simple. As far as *these* rules go, they seem simple, straight forward, and have stood the (relatively short) test of time. It's unfortunate that current developers neglect these conventions, but please don't make the list-nannies pay for that. I, for one, have had *one* serious problem with a nanny when they introduced a 'rule' about the use of sarcasm (it was *forbidden*), but felt quite at ease to cast similarly disparaging comments upon members of the list. His response to be challenged by a mere subsciber was to suspend me from the list and I was not expect to get back on anytime soon. That was last . . April . . ? Amber and Laurent - thank you for the time you commit to allowing this to be (usually) one of the most informative and readable lists out here. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote: On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote: [snip] So much for bottom posting, eh? THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of everybody's time. This is the type that I usually just ignore and go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this to a vote. My appologies to this list and to you, Tim. Caught me at a bad moment. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On 03/02/06 13:22, CG Bacani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of the admin. No, it doesn't. BTW, folks, check your quoting. No need to quote the LowEndMac footer added at the bottom of each message. -Laurent. G-Books List Nanny -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ipod novice
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Woody Duncan wrote: I use a G-4 powerbook, OS 10.4. I recently got an ipod to hold photos (triplet grandkids) and some music. I'm confused on uploading new music without losing the old tunes on the ipod. When I add new stuff to my itunes and then want to put them on my ipod, do I have to upload everything (takes forever) or can I just add some additional music ? A Real Novice, Woody Without using a third party app, iTunes 'synchronizes' your iPod with your iTunes Library. If you have music on your iPod that no longer exists in your Library, you'll lose that music. If only a few changes (ie. additions) have been made to the Library, the synch process should move along pretty quickly. This was implemented, IIRC, in the attempt to prevent you from easily downloading tunes from your friend's computers directly to the iPod, and to ease resistance to the introduction of the iPod from the RIAA front. A check at Versiontracker.com for 'iPod' should give you an idea of some of the utilities available. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ipod novice
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Woody Duncan wrote: Amber wrote: It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or external hard drive from time to time. Thanks Amber, I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web. itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays on my laptop but I'd like it on the go. Is there a way to convert it so it loads and plays on the ipod ? It has to be in your iTunes Library. Drop it into your iTunes library when iTunes is open...this is how to import it. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT /Note to list...
On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:53 PM, G-Books wrote: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:25:21 -0800 From: Amber Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT /Note to list... In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I have been sent very rude, abusive and even threatening off-list notes, particularly in the past 2-3 weeks. I am honestly quite stunned by how aggressive and nasty they have become. Please just take a breath before you send me abusive notes. I am a real person and I do find them offensive and hurtful. Abuse to the list nanny or list mom, even if off-list, rates the same punishment as abuse on-list. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email client. We established the rule for four reasons: In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your signature to the bottom (I added an extra line of empty space above my signature) ... and for the option to quote only selected text that seems to have simplifies the top posting problem for me : ) Sandra Ragan www.plumdigital.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wi-fi card
I just tried it in a PB 3500 Kanga (OS9.1) and I've got lights there so I guess it does work. I just can't figure out how to get it to show up on the 2400 in OS 9. Hello All. I have been following this thread for a couple of days, and I am of the opinion that you have not installed all of the Airport software, or some thing that your installed is bad. First off, go to this great site and read how to do a manual install of Airport v1.3.1. Only v1.3.1 will work on the 2400. http://www.alksoft.com/projects/unsupported_airport.html Second, with the software installed, you should have an AirPort selection in both the AppleTalk control panel, and the TCP/IP control panel. If you don't, then something is wrong. Even if you have AppleTalk turned off, set the control panel to the AirPort Card. If your install is successful, then when the card is in, it should pop up on desktop as AirPort PC Card. Make sure that any network you are trying to connect to has encryption turned off. Only use the encryption once you have the hardware working. If at all possible, install a new OS on the laptop with the clean install option. I have seen many problems solved by starting over with a clean install. One other item, I have had some PowerBooks just refuse to work with wireless. The solution for them is the Farallon or Proxim version of the Skyline card for Macintosh. I have never had a PowerBook that this software would not work with. The only down side is that the card only supports 64bit WEP. If you do get it working, please let me know what the final solution is. I hope this info helps. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
On 03/02/06 15:02, sandra ragan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email client. We established the rule for four reasons: In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your signature to the bottom (I added an extra line of empty space above my signature) ... and for the option to quote only selected text that seems to have simplifies the top posting problem for me : ) If you can modify your signature, you can also add 2 '-' characters at the beginning of a line, just above your name and signature. Many email clients and news readers will honor this when automatically quoting by omitting everything that follows those 2 '-' characters on a single line, which will make the life of others easier since they won't have to delete the extra text when they reply to one of your messages. Like this: -- -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
Laurent Daudelin writes: BTW, folks, check your quoting. No need to quote the LowEndMac footer added at the bottom of each message. My webmail client forces me to strip it out manually (oh, the horror!), but at home, using Entourage, the footer is automagically eliminated without any prodding from yours truly. cheers, A.J. -- Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting -- Steve McQueen -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]
On 2/3/06 10:46 AM, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed too quickly. The testing phase - you mean that period after the application has been given to the customer, right? evil grin I look back on my days as a programmer and miss them not at all. Today I get home at a regular hour, don't have an incompetent looking over my shoulder, and don't have to deal with clients who caused their own headaches. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
If you can modify your signature, you can also add 2 '-' characters at the beginning of a line, just above your name and signature. The standard is -- (dash dash space) on a line by itself. See RFC 3676 for instance. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ipod novice
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:30:16 -0700, Woody Duncan wrote Amber wrote: It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or external hard drive from time to time. Thanks Amber, I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web. itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays on my laptop but I'd like it on the go. Is there a way to convert it so it loads and plays on the ipod ? Woody Once your libarary and iPod are sync'd it shouldn't take alot of time. I will say that pulling music from my server over wireless always takes a long time. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
--- Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just got words from Dan, the List Mom, about the top-bottom posting issue and here is what he said: The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email client. We established the rule for four reasons: 1. It's logical. It shows the flow from message to response. 2. It makes it possible to read a reply without having to skip past the new text to read the quoted material it's responding to. If the thread hasn't been active for a day or two - or you've been away from email over the weekend - this is very helpful. 3. Bottom posting forces people to see how much they're quoting and should act as a visual reminder not to quote everything. 4. Finally, it's nice to have consistency. This is all about best practices, not default email software behavior. Dan So, folks, better get used to it. I am not happy to have to remind people but we've been asked to so I'm just carrying on. Let's not turn this into a debate as to whether top or bottom posting is best, OK? Just my $.02 BUT Netscape Mail has the option to set your reply either above, below, or select the specific quote to reply to...It is located in the Account Settings section/Composition Regards, Mike K in Central PA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote: Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us. On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote: OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am confused. It becomes an issue Tim if there are irresponsible statements that's come to members attention such as when you read something you are with us or against us. I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of the admin. Clem Please don't attribute the first statement to me. I did not make it. Fine, I give in! I'll 'attempt' to bottom post out of courtesy to the rest of you. I don't like it, but I like this list. I do not plan to unsubscribe. Having my iBook and keeping it running in tip top shape is important to me. This list has helped in that endeavor as well as in with my Desktop computer (which I'm using now). And you all of you who like 'sniping' at me...please stop! As Amber said, there is a REAL PERSON at the other end of this email address. Sorry if I express an unpopular opinion from time to time. I'm not one to keep quiet when something bothers me. I don't plan to change but WILL adapt (as I've obviously done here). This is my last post regarding top vs. bottom posting. I will conform. Tim Exterminate all rational though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
Could you guys please take this argument off line or else can an administrator please block these emails from the list going forward? Thanks. On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote: Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us. On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote: OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am confused. It becomes an issue Tim if there are irresponsible statements that's come to members attention such as when you read something you are with us or against us. I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of the admin. Clem Please don't attribute the first statement to me. I did not make it. Fine, I give in! I'll 'attempt' to bottom post out of courtesy to the rest of you. I don't like it, but I like this list. I do not plan to unsubscribe. Having my iBook and keeping it running in tip top shape is important to me. This list has helped in that endeavor as well as in with my Desktop computer (which I'm using now). And you all of you who like 'sniping' at me...please stop! As Amber said, there is a REAL PERSON at the other end of this email address. Sorry if I express an unpopular opinion from time to time. I'm not one to keep quiet when something bothers me. I don't plan to change but WILL adapt (as I've obviously done here). This is my last post regarding top vs. bottom posting. I will conform. Tim Exterminate all rational though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Mimi Vitetta wrote: Could you guys please take this argument off line or else can an administrator please block these emails from the list going forward? Thanks. Tim, I did not attribute that statement to you. I just quoted it for purposes of situating your comment. Mimi: Rules are rules and I don't think that there is a rule that says that a member can suggest to the admin to block someone's emails because of his or her contrary view. Let respect the Mom in implementing the rules without the need of making a suggestion which is detrimental to others. They know more than us. Unsubscribing is an option for members Clem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
On Feb 3, 2006, at 12:02 PM, sandra ragan wrote but was not posted to the list: On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email client. We established the rule for four reasons: In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your signature to the bottom (I added an extra line of empty space above my signature) ... and for the option to quote only selected text that seems to have simplifies the top posting problem for me : ) Sandra Ragan www.plumdigital.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
That's ok because this flaming set of emails has caused me to remove myself from your list. Every list I've been on (except for yours apparently) has a list mom that you can complain to about flaming emails (which are 'as a rule' generally blocked by the administrator). Maybe it would be a good idea for you to take a closer look at email netiquette in general: Flaming people is bad. Let's respect the users of the list and not vent over email Cheers, Mimi~ On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Mimi Vitetta wrote: Could you guys please take this argument off line or else can an administrator please block these emails from the list going forward? Thanks. Tim, I did not attribute that statement to you. I just quoted it for purposes of situating your comment. Mimi: Rules are rules and I don't think that there is a rule that says that a member can suggest to the admin to block someone's emails because of his or her contrary view. Let respect the Mom in implementing the rules without the need of making a suggestion which is detrimental to others. They know more than us. Unsubscribing is an option for members Clem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Backlit keyboards
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Seth Austen wrote: any way to set its preferences for turning on and staying on. Looking on my Big Al with OS 10.3.9 System Prefs: Keyboard Mouse has only a checkbox to illuminate in lowlight conditions (by it's sensor) and a period of time that it turns off automatically... which I have set to Never. As I use it a lot from a rolling table over the bed (which keeps the keyboard at mid-chest level) the backlight is not always helpful. Sometimes tilting the display down slightly helps... On a related note... keeping things out from under the keys is a problem... my helper cats tracked unmentionable crumbs under the keys causing a couple to stick until the offending stuff compressed enough to be vacuumed out... that's when I learned, contrary to Apples tech notes, you can't take this keyboard out like all the others : ( Sandra Ragan www.plumdigital.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
Quoth sandra ragan : In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your signature to the bottom In /Safari/? Please don't mistake this for nit-picking, but I'm genuinely curious if it's Safari (the web browser) or Mail.app that you're talking about -- or some other program. I don't think I've seen a toggle like this in Safari preferences. [grins] Cheers, A.J. -- Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting -- Steve McQueen -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Rules
Quoth Tim Collier : Fine, I give in! I'll 'attempt' to bottom post out of courtesy to the rest of you. I don't like it, but I like this list. I think that's about all anyone's asked, really. I do not plan to unsubscribe. Well, that's good. No, seriously, I mean that's /good/. No sarcasm there, capice? And you all of you who like 'sniping' at me...please stop! As Amber said, there is a REAL PERSON at the other end of this email address. If you interpret good-natured ribbing (my AOL comment) as a snipe, I'd suggest group therapy. Sorry if I express an unpopular opinion from time to time. There's nothing wrong at all with that, in and of itself. Unpopular thoughts often lead to great progress. You know, the whole think different idea... [grins] I'm not one to keep quiet when something bothers me. This much is abundantly clear, Mr. Collier. I don't plan to change but WILL adapt (as I've obviously done here). This is my last post regarding top vs. bottom posting. I will conform. Amen, hallelujah, and hell yeah. Exterminate all rational though. Either I don't get it, or Ah, I believe that's it! Cheers, A.J. -- ...there is more to life than gears and horsepower - not much, admittedly, but you get the point -- Road Kill -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: [OT] The old days
Amen! I'm retired at age 55 with no debt because for the last couple decades I've bought what I need instead of what I want. I buy a new compact car every 10 years, live in a house I inherited and rehabbed, and buy the cheapest new Mac every 5 years or so. My one disappointment with Apple was when I gave in and laid out $2200 for a Pismo that didn't even make it 5 years. My $800 iMac amd $500 Mac Mini are doing just fine though. Meanwhile, my friend has been doing her part to juice the economy- she and her partner buy a new $25,000 minivan every 3 years, move every 10 years, and will probably never be solvent enough to retire. I finally talked her into a Mac to replace the $2000+ PC she bought 5 years ago. A $500 Mac Mini would have met her e-mail and web surfing needs just fine but instead she pulled out her plastic and blew nearly $2000 on a loaded iMac with the unproven Intel processor. She justified this overkill by saying she needs the capacity to do video, but she doesn't even own a digital camera so she'll blow another thousand on that. Propping up the economy is not my responsibility... Dyna And whether it be Mac or Intel, Micro$soft or Motorola, it keeps the economy going. The idea is to buy, buy, buy. This iBook is the 2nd new Mac I've ever had-the first was a Classic: six or so others were all 2nd or 3rd hand. I won't tell you how I got most software because it will start more arguments about Respect For The Law. I'm a crappy consumer, not putting my shoulder to the wheel any more than necessary. That's why I like low-end Mac - there are more than enough sites and posts about high-end Mac. Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wegener Media
And, as far as relevant questions: What can anyone tell me about Wegener Media and the service they provide? They're a small shop in the Carolinas with remarkably offhand business practices. You probably won't get ripped off when dealing with them, but it could take a while to complete a transaction. I paid for a WS battery charger from them and didn't find out until ten days later (after I emailed them to ask for a status update) that they didn't have any in stock! They promptly issued a refund, but still Gene Osburn Friends don't let friends do Windows -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: setting bottom post not required in Mail
Stardate 060203.11:05 -0500. A subspace message from Andrew in Ann Arbor reads: I'm using Mail in Panther ... The cursor does end up above the quote ... It does WHAT?!? Have the Mail devteam been spending too much time stuck inside Outcroak or something? Methinks we should all write to the Mail Devteam c/- One Infinite Loop and say RFC 1855, guys!! See, I wouldn't've known this, as I don't use Mail -- I've been a dedicated Eudora fan *waves to Steve* since version 0.8. I've tried other mail programs over the years, I keep coming back to the Big E. When I moved to OSX five months ago, I tried Apple's Mail ... threw it my Eudora mail-folder and I got a kernel panic. I run my own RFC 1855 pre-filter here (based on 'listar') - if incoming mail breaks RFC 1855, the sender gets a nice little bounce message asking them to try again. I used to use a similiar pre-filter for my nntp feed (but without the bounce) when I still bothered with newsgroups, My .sig states my filter rules thusly: WARNING: Mail to this address wil be auto-bounced without warning if: (a) more than 10% original content appears before first quoted matter, (b) quoted material exceeds 75% of total message content, and/or (c) HTML is used to format text and/or embed non-ASCII items. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Top-Bottom Posting Clarification
Stardate 060203.11:52 -0500. A subspace message from Laurent Daudelin reads: 1. It's logical. It shows the flow from message to response. Historical note: RFC 1855 (which is what these rules are based on) grew out of the inherent patchiness in UseNet NNTP propagation -- no-one could guarantee that all messages within a particular thread would reach all servers and all recipients, so the practice of quoting started. This way, if a thread message went AWOL (as they often did, and still do) subsequent messages would still contain relevant content, thus most thread followers would not miss out on stuff. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
