Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[Nils Mueller-Scheessel]

Many thanks to James, Bob and the others who answered my request. 
Having set the processor to save power when on battery exactly was 
the culprit! Now the card works fine. Such a simple solution to a 
problem which nearly drove me crazy Š

Many thanks again!
Nils
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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[David Lesher]

del.mary.stubbs wrote:
I appreciate the USB pc card discussion. I just acquired a 300 wallstreet
and want to get a card so I can use my old Sony Supressa cd burner. Do I
need a powered pc card? Any recommendations on brand / model? Thanks, Del

I bought a CompuCable USB 2.0 cardbus unit. I see no model number but
the UPC is 18504 02282

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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[del.mary.stubbs]

I appreciate the USB pc card discussion. I just acquired a 300 wallstreet
and want to get a card so I can use my old Sony Supressa cd burner. Do I
need a powered pc card? Any recommendations on brand / model? Thanks, Del




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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[Mike Turner]

On 11/1/05 2:04 am, Nils Mueller-Scheessel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said:

>I am desperately trying to get a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Notebook 
>Card running with by Wallstreet (2nd revision, 233 MHz, upgraded to 
>466 MHz, 256 MB RAM). The Belkin-Card is supposed to run with OS 8.6 
>to X, but my PB always freezes in short time when I put it in the PC 
>card-Slot. It is recognized in the System Profiler, however. I have 
>installed OS 9.1, 9.2.2, the USB-Card-Support 1.4.1 - to no avail. 
>Unfortunately, installing OS X is not an option, as my processor 
>upgrade refuses to work with it (the processor is not the culprit, 
>however, as the problem with the USB-card persists when using the old 
>(very sloow) processor).
>
>I have no idea if this is related or not, but my OrangeLink Firewire 
>CadBus Card does not work, too (though it should as well). It is not 
>even recognized in the System Profiler.

Nils

Seems almost everyone, including me, gets caught by this. Symptoms - The 
WallStreet works fine with a USB card whilst on mains power but freezes 
up under battery power. 

The solution is to turn off Allow processor cycling under Settings for 
Battery, in Control Panels, Energy Saver, Advanced Settings. Now the USB 
card should work fine. At least it did for me.  

HTH

Mike

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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[Bob]

The National Enquirer reports at 2:36 AM +0100 1/11/05, Nils 
Mueller-Scheessel wrote:

>Hi listers,
>
>I am desperately trying to get a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Notebook
>Card running with by Wallstreet (2nd revision, 233 MHz, upgraded to
>466 MHz, 256 MB RAM). The Belkin-Card is supposed to run with OS 8.6
>to X, but my PB always freezes in short time when I put it in the PC
>card-Slot. It is recognized in the System Profiler, however. I have
>installed OS 9.1, 9.2.2, the USB-Card-Support 1.4.1 - to no avail.
>Unfortunately, installing OS X is not an option, as my processor
>upgrade refuses to work with it (the processor is not the culprit,
>however, as the problem with the USB-card persists when using the old
>(very sloow) processor).
>
>I have no idea if this is related or not, but my OrangeLink Firewire
>CadBus Card does not work, too (though it should as well). It is not
>even recognized in the System Profiler.
>
>Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

You probably have processor cycling turned on in the Energy Saver 
control panel (or, if you're like me,  you may a similar Control 
Strip Module). If processor cycling is enabled you **will** get 
consistent freezes shortly after bootup.

Turn of processor cycling both in the AC settings and battery 
settings and I'm willing to be your problems will disappear.

BTW you *do* know, don't  you, that you will only be able to use the 
USB card at 1.1 speeds unless you are in OS X?

HTH,


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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[Steven Haack]

Nils Mueller-Scheessel wrote:
Hi listers,
I am desperately trying to get a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Notebook Card 
running with by Wallstreet (2nd revision, 233 MHz, upgraded to 466 
MHz, 256 MB RAM). The Belkin-Card is supposed to run with OS 8.6 to X, 
but my PB always freezes in short time when I put it in the PC 
card-Slot. It is recognized in the System Profiler, however. I have 
installed OS 9.1, 9.2.2, the USB-Card-Support 1.4.1 - to no avail. 
Unfortunately, installing OS X is not an option, as my processor 
upgrade refuses to work with it (the processor is not the culprit, 
however, as the problem with the USB-card persists when using the old 
(very sloow) processor).

I have no idea if this is related or not, but my OrangeLink Firewire 
CadBus Card does not work, too (though it should as well). It is not 
even recognized in the System Profiler.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
Nils
I have this same card on my Wallstreet II and it works fine with the 
power cord attached to the card. With out the power cord attached only 
the USB roller mouse from Kensington works. Hope that this helps
Shaack

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Re: USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[James W. Buesing]

I had a similar problem years ago with a different powerbook and software,
but mine would only happen when I was on battery.  After shipping it to
Apple, etc., etc., a tech locally said to change the energy saver so it
wouldn't cut back on power on battery because the PC card needed continuous
power or it would crash the whole system.  For what it's worthgood luck



on 1/10/05 7:36 PM, Nils Mueller-Scheessel at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> Hi listers,
> 
> I am desperately trying to get a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Notebook
> Card running with by Wallstreet (2nd revision, 233 MHz, upgraded to
> 466 MHz, 256 MB RAM). The Belkin-Card is supposed to run with OS 8.6
> to X, but my PB always freezes in short time when I put it in the PC
> card-Slot. It is recognized in the System Profiler, however. I have
> installed OS 9.1, 9.2.2, the USB-Card-Support 1.4.1 - to no avail.
> Unfortunately, installing OS X is not an option, as my processor
> upgrade refuses to work with it (the processor is not the culprit,
> however, as the problem with the USB-card persists when using the old
> (very sloow) processor).
> 
> I have no idea if this is related or not, but my OrangeLink Firewire
> CadBus Card does not work, too (though it should as well). It is not
> even recognized in the System Profiler.
> 
> Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
> 
> Nils


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USB PC Card on Wallstreet

[Nils Mueller-Scheessel]

Hi listers,
I am desperately trying to get a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Notebook 
Card running with by Wallstreet (2nd revision, 233 MHz, upgraded to 
466 MHz, 256 MB RAM). The Belkin-Card is supposed to run with OS 8.6 
to X, but my PB always freezes in short time when I put it in the PC 
card-Slot. It is recognized in the System Profiler, however. I have 
installed OS 9.1, 9.2.2, the USB-Card-Support 1.4.1 - to no avail. 
Unfortunately, installing OS X is not an option, as my processor 
upgrade refuses to work with it (the processor is not the culprit, 
however, as the problem with the USB-card persists when using the old 
(very sloow) processor).

I have no idea if this is related or not, but my OrangeLink Firewire 
CadBus Card does not work, too (though it should as well). It is not 
even recognized in the System Profiler.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
Nils
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Re: Wallstreet II startup problem

[Ben Dyer]

Sometimes dead batteries give incorrect charge status readings. Is this 
a new battery, or the original?

Cheers,
Ben
On 9 Jan 2005, at 15:18, Lance Ferguson wrote:
Hi,
I just bought a Wallstreet II 233 and when I plugged
in the power adapter until the battery gage (It's
running Sys.8.6)indicated fully charged.
Tried then to start it off the battery.
Nothing,nada,zip. Could someone give me an idea what
the problem might be.
Thanks,
Lance Ferguson

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Re: Wallstreet II startup problem

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At 8:18 PM -0800 1/8/05, Lance Ferguson wrote:
Hi,
I just bought a Wallstreet II 233 and when I plugged
in the power adapter until the battery gage (It's
running Sys.8.6)indicated fully charged.
Tried then to start it off the battery.
Nothing,nada,zip. Could someone give me an idea what
the problem might be.
Dead PRAM batter.  Try leaving it on the charger overnight then try 
it.  Or just don't shut it down, sleeping it instead.
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Wallstreet II startup problem

[Lance Ferguson]

Hi,

I just bought a Wallstreet II 233 and when I plugged
in the power adapter until the battery gage (It's
running Sys.8.6)indicated fully charged.

Tried then to start it off the battery. 

Nothing,nada,zip. Could someone give me an idea what
the problem might be.

Thanks,

Lance Ferguson



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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Clark Martin]

At 1:26 PM -0800 1/6/05, CR wrote:
So it is.
256 Top
32 bottom
Thank you,
Cliff


 Fabian
From: Jeff Hubatka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Wallstreets came with 32MB of RAM, in the lower slot. No one ever made
a 96MB RAM card. The only way to get 288 is with a 32 and a 256.
Higher end Wallstreets had 64Mb of RAM in the lower slot.
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[CR]

So it is.
256 Top
32 bottom
Thank you,
Cliff

 On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:36:03 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Fabian, you're exactly right.
 In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
 But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
 Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?
 Cliff:
 From: Fabian Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
 What your ASP shows, 16 Mb + 128 Mb, do not add up to the 288 Mb
 mentioned in your original post.Am I wrong in thinking that the
 Wallstreet II has 64 Mb RAM on board?  This would possibly mean an 128
 Mb module in one slot, and a 96 Mb module in the second slot, which is
 somehow not seen by ASP.
 Fabian
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Wallstreets came with 32MB of RAM, in the lower slot. No one ever made
a 96MB RAM card. The only way to get 288 is with a 32 and a 256.
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Mikael Byström]

Fabian Fang said:
>Malcolm Cornelius<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.
>
>The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.

The Kanga is, however, not of the Powerbook G3 *series*!
Only the Wallstreets/PDQ - 233(nocache & cache), 250, 266, 292 & 300 -
and the Lombards -333 & 400- and also the Pismos - with FireWire 400 &
500- are of The Powerbook G3 series. See?

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Display Acting Up? / Bad RAM Stiks? / (Was Jaguar Install on Wallstreet)

[Jason Long]

Weird.. It does this now since I upgraded my RAM to 320 MB RAM,  but it
wakes up as I play with the Bright Setting Button... Does this every time I
turn it on, also it makes a line of color 1/2 across the screen when
shutting down and stays like that for about 30-45 seconds.  Should I worry
about that?? Display Going out? Or does it just don't like the RAM Sticks I
put in  which I got from OWC the other day.  Running OS X on it now..
Much faster with the 320 MB RAM  In it...

Jason


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> At 5:35 PM -0600 1/5/05, Jason Long wrote:
>> Yeah that Sleep 'n Reboot method worked great! Thanks!!
> 
> Keep it handy, so to speak, My Wallstreet needed
> it every 2-3 months.  Usually when it crashed
> hard and then wouldn't reboot without a power
> manager reset.
> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/4/05 10:18 AM, "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Timothy Domst said:
>>> 
>>>>  The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX
>>>>  installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the
>>>>  install and put it in after.
>>> 
>>>  No no, not this time. this is a known wallstreet condition and can be
>>>  solved by rebooting once into OS 9, (in some cases also sleeping the
>>> machine there) and then boot back again into OS X.
>>> 
> 
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:17:39 +, Malcolm Cornelius
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.
> 
> The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.

That's why I said G3 SERIES Powerbook and not G3 Powerbook 

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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 There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.
The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.
Both posters are right...
The expression "G3 SERIES Powerbook" does not include the Kanga; and 
all G3 "SERIES" Powerbooks have no ram onboard.

And the Kanga IS a G3 Powerbook and has ram onboard.
The naming can be confusing, as has at times been discussed aplenty 
on this list.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Clark Martin]

At 7:23 PM -0800 1/5/05, Fabian Fang wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:17:39 +, Malcolm Cornelius
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.
The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.
But it is not a "G3 Series" Powerbook.  That is how Apple 
differentiates them, the Kanga is a "G3 PowerBook", the WallStreet, 
Lombard and Pismo are "G3 Series" PowerBooks.

Yeah, the Kanga has 32Mb on board and a single proprietary slot that 
can hold up to 128Mb.
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Re: Jaguar Install on Wallstreet

[Clark Martin]

At 5:35 PM -0600 1/5/05, Jason Long wrote:
Yeah that Sleep 'n Reboot method worked great! Thanks!!
Keep it handy, so to speak, My Wallstreet needed 
it every 2-3 months.  Usually when it crashed 
hard and then wouldn't reboot without a power 
manager reset.

Jason
On 1/4/05 10:18 AM, "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Timothy Domst said:
 The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX
 installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the
 install and put it in after.
 No no, not this time. this is a known wallstreet condition and can be
 solved by rebooting once into OS 9, (in some cases also sleeping the
 > machine there) and then boot back again into OS X.
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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 > There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.
The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.
Okay, _now_ we're splitting hairs.
Anyway, Jeff is right.  Wallstreets commonly came with 32MB in the 
lower slot.  Since 256MB low profile SODIMMs are more expensive than 
their full-height brethren, I'd say it's good odds that the bottom 
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:17:39 +, Malcolm Cornelius
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> There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.

The Kanga is a G3 PowerBook. It has 32-Mb RAM on the logic board.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:49 PM, G-Books wrote:
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:45:41 -0800
From: Fabian Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ram in a Wallstreet
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:36:03 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fabian, you're exactly right.
In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?
Cliff:
What your ASP shows, 16 Mb + 128 Mb, do not add up to the 288 Mb
mentioned in your original post.Am I wrong in thinking that the
Wallstreet II has 64 Mb RAM on board?  This would possibly mean an 128
Mb module in one slot, and a 96 Mb module in the second slot, which is
somehow not seen by ASP.
Fabian
Wallstreets came with 32MB of RAM, in the lower slot. No one ever made 
a 96MB RAM card. The only way to get 288 is with a 32 and a 256.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:36:03 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Fabian, you're exactly right.
>> In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
>> But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
>> Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?
> 
> Cliff:
> 
> What your ASP shows, 16 Mb + 128 Mb, do not add up to the 288 Mb
> mentioned in your original post.Am I wrong in thinking that the
> Wallstreet II has 64 Mb RAM on board?  This would possibly mean an 128
> Mb module in one slot, and a 96 Mb module in the second slot, which is
> somehow not seen by ASP.

There's no RAM 'on board' on any G3 series Powerbook.

Modules would be 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, not 96.

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Re: Jaguar Install on Wallstreet

[Jason Long]

Yeah that Sleep 'n Reboot method worked great! Thanks!!

Jason


On 1/4/05 10:18 AM, "Mikael Byström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Timothy Domst said:
> 
>> The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX
>> installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the
>> install and put it in after.
> 
> No no, not this time. this is a known wallstreet condition and can be
> solved by rebooting once into OS 9, (in some cases also sleeping the
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[CR]

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:36:03 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Fabian, you're exactly right.
 In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
 But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
 Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?
:
Fabian writes:
What your ASP shows, 16 Mb + 128 Mb, do not add up to the 288 Mb
mentioned in your original post.Am I wrong in thinking that the
Wallstreet II has 64 Mb RAM on board?  This would possibly mean an 128
Mb module in one slot, and a 96 Mb module in the second slot, which is
somehow not seen by ASP.
Fabian
I apologize to everyone reading this thread.
I keep working on my 3400 and thinking about the Wallstreet.
I have yet to check the profiler on the Wallstreet and I'll bet that
it shows both slots and gives me all the information I keep bothering 
everyone about.
Thanks for your attentiveness Fabian.
Cliff

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Fabian Fang]

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:36:03 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fabian, you're exactly right.
> In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
> But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
> Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?

Cliff:

What your ASP shows, 16 Mb + 128 Mb, do not add up to the 288 Mb
mentioned in your original post.Am I wrong in thinking that the
Wallstreet II has 64 Mb RAM on board?  This would possibly mean an 128
Mb module in one slot, and a 96 Mb module in the second slot, which is
somehow not seen by ASP.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[CR]

Color me "stupid"
I was looking in "About this Computer"
Fabian, you're exactly right.
In ASP I'm showing 16mMB DRAM  and 128MB expansion RAM
But, it does not indicate location of the 128 .
Can I presume a 128 RAM chip in one slot and the other empty?
Sorry about the sloppy thinking.
Cliff
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:50:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: Ram in a Wallstreet
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:12:29 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > I'm running 9.1
 > I guess this is the problem.
 > In 9.1 I see no "memory" options, little arrows or "more info" in 
the profiler

I do not have a Wallstreet, but I do have a Kanga and two 3400c, all
running OS 9.1.  In their Apple System Profilers, the Location and
Size of RAM modules are clearly shown under "Memory Overview."  I
would be surprised if such information is not provided for the
Wallstreet.
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Re: Wallstreet loses settings

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on 04/01/05 22:40, James Sanderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Here's my problem.  I installed 10.3 on a WS 1/233 with 288MB desktop.
> It booted into it just fine; would sleep and wake just fine; the video
> wouldn't white out.  It seemed pretty stable.  I shut down after a day,
> allowing it to shut down and restart per a schedule I set.  Everything
> worked fine.  After using it for a time, I shut down for a whole day.
> When I restarted the darn thing booted into 9.2.  Now it boots into 9
> all the time.  To get to 10 I have a ritual I have to go through.  Boot
> into 9, try to reset the start disk, freeze, restart into 9, reset the
> start up disk, restart.  It has done this consistently for three days
> now.  Yesterday the date and time reset.  It holds the time when it
> finally boots into 10, but looses it when it boots into 9.
> Would only the PRAM battery be the culprit of all this quirkiness?
> 
> A. M. G. D.
> 

It is quite possible, since the startup disk I believe is stored in the PRAM
along the date and time used by OS 9.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Fabian Fang]

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:12:29 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running 9.1
> I guess this is the problem.
> In 9.1 I see no "memory" options, little arrows or "more info" in the profiler

I do not have a Wallstreet, but I do have a Kanga and two 3400c, all
running OS 9.1.  In their Apple System Profilers, the Location and
Size of RAM modules are clearly shown under "Memory Overview."  I
would be surprised if such information is not provided for the
Wallstreet.

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Wallstreet loses settings

[James Sanderson]

Here's my problem.  I installed 10.3 on a WS 1/233 with 288MB desktop.  
It booted into it just fine; would sleep and wake just fine; the video 
wouldn't white out.  It seemed pretty stable.  I shut down after a day, 
allowing it to shut down and restart per a schedule I set.  Everything 
worked fine.  After using it for a time, I shut down for a whole day.  
When I restarted the darn thing booted into 9.2.  Now it boots into 9 
all the time.  To get to 10 I have a ritual I have to go through.  Boot 
into 9, try to reset the start disk, freeze, restart into 9, reset the 
start up disk, restart.  It has done this consistently for three days 
now.  Yesterday the date and time reset.  It holds the time when it 
finally boots into 10, but looses it when it boots into 9.
Would only the PRAM battery be the culprit of all this quirkiness?

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Re: Jaguar Install on Wallstreet

[Mikael Byström]

Timothy Domst said:

>The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX 
>installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the 
>install and put it in after.

No no, not this time. this is a known wallstreet condition and can be
solved by rebooting once into OS 9, (in some cases also sleeping the
machine there) and then boot back again into OS X.


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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[CR]

I'm running 9.1
I guess this is the problem.
In 9.1 I see no "memory" options, little arrows or "more info" in the profiler
Thanks,
Cliff

 > Right, Apple System Profiler,
 tells me my built in memory,
  but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each "chip".
 I guess one has to open it up.
 Cliff
Which OS are you running?  If it's Panther, you go to the apple
menu>about this Mac.  When the little window opens telling you about
your Mac, you click on 'more info.'  The system profile window comes up
and you would click on memory where it tells you what you have where.
I don't believe Jag did this, however.

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Re: Ram In a Wallstreet/300Mhz

[John . E . Abraham]

Hi Pete
You Should not have any problem.
I have a Wallstreet II 233 Mhz with 512 ram and $0 Gb HD running 10.1.5.
Just make sure it is low profile and the correct density of chips.
I was lucky with mine as a fellow lister (The Powerbook Fanatic) checked
compatibility for me before sending them.  When installed they were 
identified
in system profiler and I have had no problem since.

I have been given OS 10.2 for Christmas so I hope the installation of 
this will go
as smoothly as 10.1 and its upgrades did.

John Abraham.  UK.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:22:35 -0800 (PST)
From: PETE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz
I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB
bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB
stick on the bottom slot without problems?
TIA,
PETE.


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Re: Jaguar Install on Wallstreet

[Timothy Domst]

The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX 
installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the 
install and put it in after.

On Jan 3, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Jason Long wrote:

Hey
   How  can I get Jaguar to install correctly on my 233MHz 320MB RAM
Wallstreet... Every time I boot off the Jaguar Cd it works... I do see 
the
apple booting up logo... But past that I don't  but a bit yeah on the 
screen
at the languages selection screen, but the screen is too dark  almost 
like
it's off, but still can see the outline of the languages selection 
screen..
Any idea what is causing this?? Thanks

Jason


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Jaguar Install on Wallstreet

[Jason Long]

Hey
   How  can I get Jaguar to install correctly on my 233MHz 320MB RAM
Wallstreet... Every time I boot off the Jaguar Cd it works... I do see the
apple booting up logo... But past that I don't  but a bit yeah on the screen
at the languages selection screen, but the screen is too dark  almost like
it's off, but still can see the outline of the languages selection screen..
Any idea what is causing this?? Thanks


Jason



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Re: Wallstreet queries

[Anne Judge]

On Jan 3, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote:
Also, the Re-set of: Shift, Control, FN and Power does not work and I
have had to pull the plug out to shut it off after it froze.

Actually, it should be: Cmd-Ctrl-Power
The cited combination (shift-fn-ctrl-power) should shut it down - it's 
what's written on the back of the Wallstreet (under the port-cover 
door, next to the ADB port) and it's always worked for me.

(And I used it a LOT because my Wallstreet had a freezing problem - 
still will, when I replace the RAM module I contributed to my father's 
tray-loader iMac - hardly worth the money for the new RAM, except that 
I feel much better having this old machine in danger zones such as the 
kitchen counter - serving recipes - or work areas - playing audio books 
or internet radio - than putting my 17" G4 in such danger!)

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Re: Wallstreet queries

[Luis Sequeira]

Hello,
I have just acquired a Wallstreet (292 mhz, 64 mb ram, 5 GB hd with
OS 9.1) which has a yellow tinge along the bottom of the screen for
about half an inch. Is there a cure, besides a new screen?
Also, the Re-set of: Shift, Control, FN and Power does not work and I
have had to pull the plug out to shut it off after it froze. Are
there other suggestions for a way to shut it off?
Thanks.
Actually, it should be: Cmd-Ctrl-Power
Luis
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Re: Wireless Card for Wallstreet?

[Mikael Byström]

Jason Long said:

>  Hey All, 
>I'm wondering what kind of wireless card I should get for my 233MHz
>Wallstreet which I should be getting in the mail soon.. I already have a
>wireless network, the wireless router is a DI-514 D-link thanks for the
>ideas in advance...

Orinoco Gold with Airport drivers in OS 9 or opensourced Wirelessdriver
in OS X? 


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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[PETE]

I have a wallstreet/300 running OS 9.2.2 and system
profiler does tells me the slots and sizes of the
installed ram. But then as others have already
mentioned your system profiler depends on which OS
you're running but all the OS's that run in a
wallstreet should give you both the slot position,
upper or lower, and size of each stick of ram 
Pete.
--- CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Right, Apple System Profiler,
> tells me my built in memory,
>   but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each
> "chip".
> I guess one has to open it up.
> Cliff
> 
> 
> >-PETE <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >apple system profiler under apple menu, top left
> >corner on your desktop.
> >
> >--- CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  I have 288 installed, though I don't know how it
> is
> >  configured.
> >  Is there a way to tell without opening it up.
> >
> >  I presume its 256 and 32.
> >
> >  Though that seems a little odd.
> >
> >  ???
> >  Cliff
> >
> 
> -- 




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Wireless Card for Wallstreet?

[Jason Long]

  Hey All, 
I'm wondering what kind of wireless card I should get for my 233MHz
Wallstreet which I should be getting in the mail soon.. I already have a
wireless network, the wireless router is a DI-514 D-link thanks for the
ideas in advance...


Jason



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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Clark Martin]

At 1:14 PM -0800 1/2/05, CR wrote:
Right, Apple System Profiler,
tells me my built in memory,
 but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each "chip".
I guess one has to open it up.
Cliff
Unless you are running an old version of the OS then System Profiler 
will tell you what each slot has.  Look for a triangle next to the 
memory listing and click on it.  The triangle should turn down and 
then more information will be shown.
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[James Sanderson]

On 2 Jan 2005, at 15:14, CR wrote:
Right, Apple System Profiler,
tells me my built in memory,
 but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each "chip".
I guess one has to open it up.
Cliff
Which OS are you running?  If it's Panther, you go to the apple 
menu>about this Mac.  When the little window opens telling you about 
your Mac, you click on 'more info.'  The system profile window comes up 
and you would click on memory where it tells you what you have where.  
I don't believe Jag did this, however.

Jim S
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[CR]

Right, Apple System Profiler,
tells me my built in memory,
 but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each "chip".
I guess one has to open it up.
Cliff

-PETE <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
apple system profiler under apple menu, top left
corner on your desktop.
--- CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I have 288 installed, though I don't know how it is
 configured.
 Is there a way to tell without opening it up.
 I presume its 256 and 32.
 Though that seems a little odd.
 ???
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Follow-up on 3rd-party Wireless cards (was: X on Wallstreet)

[Bob]

  On 11/9/04, I responded to the following Luis Sequeira quote by saying:

> >Many(802.11g) cards just work right out of the box with the 
>drivers built into the (Apple) OS.
>
>Luis,
> Just to clarify your point a little bit. I'm not sure I would say 
>"many" work right out of the box with the drivers built into the 
>OS." I would be more inclined to say a "few" do. Only the ones that 
>use the Broadcom chipset. There are a handful that I'm aware of that 
>do. But there are a bunch of others out there that will work, but 
>need a 3rd-party driver.
 
Here is the most recent Apple OS/3rd-party card compatibility list 
that I have seen. I tried sending this in Monaco 9 pt. type tabbed 
nice and neat, but it didn't go through. Must be some list 
prohibition of any type of styled text.

Card:  Buffalo  WLICBG54  802.11g
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:  Linksys  WPC54G802.11g
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:  Macsense WPE-800  802.11b
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:  MacWireless  ? 802.11g
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:  MicrosoftMN-720   802.11g
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:  Sitecom  WL-100b 802.11g
Interface:Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card: SonnetG54CB 802.11b/g   (Aria Extreme)
Interface:   Cardbus/Broadcom
OS Support:   10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.1-3.3

Card:   Belkin  F5D7011 802.11g
Interface:  PCMCIA/Broadcom
OS Support:10.2-10.3
Drivers Used: Airport 3.4.1

Ken Vann, you're welcome to use this list on your wirless page if you want.


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Re: Wallstreet

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 02/01/2005 00:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

>> >The bottom line is "no, you don't have to shut down (or even put to
>> >sleep) your Wallstreet when adding or removing ADB mice or keyboards
>> >or expansion-bay modules." HOWEVER, if the ADB devices have 3rd-party
>> >drivers, they may not be enabled without rebooting (i.e Kensington
>> >multi-button mice).
>> >
>> >
>> >Bob
>>
>>Maybe so, but my quotes were "clipped" directly from the user's
>>manual. Smoke at your own risk!
>
>Darn it, Ken, you made me go look for supporting references. :-)
>
>I didn't have much time, so I didn't come up with the definitive 
>reference(s) that I wanted. But I have a dozen or more email messages 
>(from people that I have known over the years and respect their Mac 
>knowledge) indicating one of the advantages of the Wallstreet (I & 
>II) is the ability to hot-swap ADB devices. It *is* the one and only 
>PB with that capability.
>
>As far as the manual is concerned, page 73 of the PowerBook G3 Series 
>"Macintosh PowerBook User's Manual" states:
>
>"NOTE: You may experience a slight delay if you connect a mouse or 
>other ADB devices while the computer is turned on."
>
>It wouldn't say any such thing -- especially without a warning -- if 
>the ADB port was not hot-swappable.
>
>Please provide the page # for your reference. I still have a 
>gut-feeling that you're quoting from a different manual than the one 
>for the Wallstreet.
>
>
>Bob
-
Well, you may be correct, as the only manual I have is a .pdf and does
not say "pb g3 series." Probably for the earlier version. Will have to
hunt up a more recent version. Thanks for the insight! It is good to 
know that the old beast still has some advantages!

Ken

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Re: Wallstreet

[Bob]

The National Enquirer reports at 11:16 PM -0800 1/1/05, Ken wrote:

>My Reply follows quote. On 01/01/2005 18:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>said:
>
> >>Just checked the User Manual.
> >>
> >>No mention of turning off for Printers.
> >>Shut down of sleep for modems.
> >>WARNING When connecting SCSI equipment, always turn off power to
> >>all devices in the chain, including your computer. If you don't, you
> >>could lose information and damage your equipment.
> >>IMPORTANT You must shut down the computer or put it in sleep before
> >>connecting an ADB device.
> >
> >I don't know which manual you checked, but the ADB devices on a
> >Wallstreet are also hot-swappable. As I recall, it was the 1st
> >PowerBook to be so (and maybe the only one, I'm  not positive about
> >that).
> >
> >Because of the power (5v) on the SCSI line, it has always been "shut
> >down before adding or removing devices" even though some people have
> >gotten by hot-swapping SCSI devices for years.
> >
> >The bottom line is "no, you don't have to shut down (or even put to
> >sleep) your Wallstreet when adding or removing ADB mice or keyboards
> >or expansion-bay modules." HOWEVER, if the ADB devices have 3rd-party
> >drivers, they may not be enabled without rebooting (i.e Kensington
> >multi-button mice).
> >
> >
> >Bob
>
>Maybe so, but my quotes were "clipped" directly from the user's
>manual. Smoke at your own risk!

Darn it, Ken, you made me go look for supporting references. :-)

I didn't have much time, so I didn't come up with the definitive 
reference(s) that I wanted. But I have a dozen or more email messages 
(from people that I have known over the years and respect their Mac 
knowledge) indicating one of the advantages of the Wallstreet (I & 
II) is the ability to hot-swap ADB devices. It *is* the one and only 
PB with that capability.

As far as the manual is concerned, page 73 of the PowerBook G3 Series 
"Macintosh PowerBook User's Manual" states:

"NOTE: You may experience a slight delay if you connect a mouse or 
other ADB devices while the computer is turned on."

It wouldn't say any such thing -- especially without a warning -- if 
the ADB port was not hot-swappable.

Please provide the page # for your reference. I still have a 
gut-feeling that you're quoting from a different manual than the one 
for the Wallstreet.


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Re: Wallstreet

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 01/01/2005 18:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

>>Just checked the User Manual.
>>
>>No mention of turning off for Printers.
>>Shut down of sleep for modems.
>>WARNING When connecting SCSI equipment, always turn off power to
>>all devices in the chain, including your computer. If you don't, you
>>could lose information and damage your equipment.
>>IMPORTANT You must shut down the computer or put it in sleep before
>>connecting an ADB device.
>
>I don't know which manual you checked, but the ADB devices on a 
>Wallstreet are also hot-swappable. As I recall, it was the 1st 
>PowerBook to be so (and maybe the only one, I'm  not positive about 
>that).
>
>Because of the power (5v) on the SCSI line, it has always been "shut 
>down before adding or removing devices" even though some people have 
>gotten by hot-swapping SCSI devices for years.
>
>The bottom line is "no, you don't have to shut down (or even put to 
>sleep) your Wallstreet when adding or removing ADB mice or keyboards 
>or expansion-bay modules." HOWEVER, if the ADB devices have 3rd-party 
>drivers, they may not be enabled without rebooting (i.e Kensington 
>multi-button mice).
>
>
>Bob

Maybe so, but my quotes were "clipped" directly from the user's 
manual. Smoke at your own risk!

Ken

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz

[Mikael Byström]

PETE said:

>I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB
>bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB
>stick on the bottom slot without problems?

Yes, but watch out for chip density. Here's a clip from an earlier
discussion in the thread "Adding RAM to WS II":

Nils Said:
>On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:59:11AM -0400 or thereabouts, Dan K wrote:
>> As many others have explained, the issue revolves around chip density. 
>> For specific details on what will work, read Apple's Wallstreet devnote:
>> <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintos
>> h_CPUs-G3/PowerBookG3Series.pdf>
>
>Nice! It appears that these machines support a chip density of 8M with a
>width of 32 bits. Even though that configuration isn't listed, it could be
>the next logical step.
>
>The pdf also states that the machine is to use SDRAM memory with a rating of
>100MHz or greater. This would make sense as a recommendation because the
>250 and 292MHz systems run on a 83MHz system bus. Where as the 233, 266
>and 300MHz systems run on a 66MHz system bus. To make it less likely for
>customers
>to run into memory speed related issues, just tell them to use PC100.


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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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I have 288 installed, though I don't know how it is configured.
Is there a way to tell without opening it up.
I presume its 256 and 32.
Though that seems a little odd.
???
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Re: Wallstreet

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I have a ton of backlogged list messages to read, I hope I'm not 
repeating something someone else has already said.

The National Enquirer reports at 10:27 PM -0800 12/29/04, Ken wrote:

>My Reply follows quote. On 29/12/2004 20:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
> >Was wondering about swapping CD and floppy module's, etc. Do I need to
> >shut the computer down to swap out the mod's and/or battery's?
>
>Modules, even batteries, if using AC, can be inserted and removed
>while the machine is "live."

Expansion-bay modules. Correct. The term is hot-swappable. The only 
items that might have unusual swap guidelines are some USB and 
FireWire peripherals (we're talking about using PCMCIA cards for 
these on a Wallstreet).

> >Also, will I need to shut down to add or remove external keyboard or mouse?
>
>Hmm. Not sure of the "official" advice, but the ADB and serial ports on
>other Macs generally carry the "warning" to shut down before connecting
>or disconnecting.

>P.S.
>
>Just checked the User Manual.
>
>No mention of turning off for Printers.
>Shut down of sleep for modems.
>WARNING When connecting SCSI equipment, always turn off power to
>all devices in the chain, including your computer. If you don't, you
>could lose information and damage your equipment.
>IMPORTANT You must shut down the computer or put it in sleep before
>connecting an ADB device.

I don't know which manual you checked, but the ADB devices on a 
Wallstreet are also hot-swappable. As I recall, it was the 1st 
PowerBook to be so (and maybe the only one, I'm  not positive about 
that).

Because of the power (5v) on the SCSI line, it has always been "shut 
down before adding or removing devices" even though some people have 
gotten by hot-swapping SCSI devices for years.

The bottom line is "no, you don't have to shut down (or even put to 
sleep) your Wallstreet when adding or removing ADB mice or keyboards 
or expansion-bay modules." HOWEVER, if the ADB devices have 3rd-party 
drivers, they may not be enabled without rebooting (i.e Kensington 
multi-button mice).


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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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My Reply follows quote. On 01/01/2005 05:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>Will a 256 RAM Stick out of a B&W G3 work in a Wallstreet?? I have one
>coming in which has 64 MB RAM needing to upgrade it as  soon as it gets in.
>
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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On Saturday, January 1, 2005, at 10:32 AM, PETE wrote:
How about memory from RamDirect? They're about ten
bucks cheaper than OWC.
--- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can second this comment from personal experience.
OS X is picky
about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't
had any issues
with OWC memory.

You get what you pay for.
I've never had problems with memory from Data Memory Corp, 
 and while they're not always the very 
cheapest, I'm more than willing to avoid the endless and 
hard-to-diagnose problems you get from bad RAM.

I had bad RAM in my 7600 once.
What happened is that my internal SCSI bus went away when I put in my 
G4 upgrade card. This persisted when I replaced my motherboard. I 
figured it was an issue with the G4 card and put it up on the shelf, 
pissed off. (It was an old JoeCard I'd gotten on clearance, the 
original company was no longer in existence and I couldn't return it)

Months later I bought 2 new 128 MB RAM sticks (from Datamem) and 
discovered that not all my RAM now showed up.

Painstakingly checking, DIMM by DIMM, I discovered that everything 
would work by itself, but that when some of my older sticks were in the 
system the new 128 MB sticks didn't show up.

I bought another 128 MB stick at $24 and replaced all of the motley old 
collection of 16 and 32 MB sticks and the system ran far better and 
crash-free than before.

On a hunch, I re-installed the G4 upgrade. Not a hitch.
Saving a couple of bucks is NOT worth that kind of aggravation!
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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On Saturday, January 1, 2005, at 06:33 AM, Jason Long wrote:
Will a 256 RAM Stick out of a B&W G3 work in a Wallstreet?? I have one
coming in which has 64 MB RAM needing to upgrade it as  soon as it 
gets in.


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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[John]

Jason Long wrote:
Will a 256 RAM Stick out of a B&W G3 work in a Wallstreet?? I have one
coming in which has 64 MB RAM needing to upgrade it as  soon as it gets in.
Jason
Nope. The Wallstreet uses SO-DIMM's, as do the early (Rev A-D) iMacs. 
They take one low-profile, and one standard (or both low-profile). The 
B&W uses standard PC100/133 DIMMS. Two different animals.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

[Jason Long]

Will a 256 RAM Stick out of a B&W G3 work in a Wallstreet?? I have one
coming in which has 64 MB RAM needing to upgrade it as  soon as it gets in.

Jason

On 1/1/05 1:28 PM, "PETE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ha! You do get what you pay for! I guese when I'm
> ready to buy I'll go with macsales.
> Pete.
> --- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I bought from them for my first B&W and had to take
>> out the memory in
>> order to install Panther.  Later I purchased a
>> second B&W and moved the
>> RamDirect memory to that comp.   I tried upgrading
>> and had nothing but
>> difficulty.  After two months, I decided to try to
>> upgrade a second
>> time and did it without a hitch.  Go figure!
>> I have never had any difficulty with OWC memory,
>> however.
>> 
>> On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:32, PETE wrote:
>> 
>>> How about memory from RamDirect? They're about ten
>>> bucks cheaper than OWC.
>>> --- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I can second this comment from personal
>> experience.
>>>> OS X is picky
>>>> about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I
>> haven't
>>>> had any issues
>>>> with OWC memory.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles
>>>> with some
>>>>> brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a
>>>> "low-profile"
>>>>> DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for
>> the
>>>> "normal"
>>>>> sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is
>>>> for the
>>>>> Wallstreet bottom slot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>> A. M. G. D.
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[PETE]

Ha! You do get what you pay for! I guese when I'm
ready to buy I'll go with macsales.
Pete.
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> I bought from them for my first B&W and had to take
> out the memory in 
> order to install Panther.  Later I purchased a
> second B&W and moved the 
> RamDirect memory to that comp.   I tried upgrading
> and had nothing but 
> difficulty.  After two months, I decided to try to
> upgrade a second 
> time and did it without a hitch.  Go figure!
> I have never had any difficulty with OWC memory,
> however.
> 
> On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:32, PETE wrote:
> 
> > How about memory from RamDirect? They're about ten
> > bucks cheaper than OWC.
> > --- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I can second this comment from personal
> experience.
> >> OS X is picky
> >> about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I
> haven't
> >> had any issues
> >> with OWC memory.
> >>
> >> On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles
> >> with some
> >>> brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a
> >> "low-profile"
> >>> DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for
> the
> >> "normal"
> >>> sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is
> >> for the
> >>> Wallstreet bottom slot.
> >>>
> >>> Ken
> >>
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I bought from them for my first B&W and had to take out the memory in 
order to install Panther.  Later I purchased a second B&W and moved the 
RamDirect memory to that comp.   I tried upgrading and had nothing but 
difficulty.  After two months, I decided to try to upgrade a second 
time and did it without a hitch.  Go figure!
I have never had any difficulty with OWC memory, however.

On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:32, PETE wrote:
How about memory from RamDirect? They're about ten
bucks cheaper than OWC.
--- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can second this comment from personal experience.
OS X is picky
about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't
had any issues
with OWC memory.
On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles
with some
brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a
"low-profile"
DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the
"normal"
sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is
for the
Wallstreet bottom slot.
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bucks cheaper than OWC.
--- James Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can second this comment from personal experience. 
> OS X is picky 
> about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't
> had any issues 
> with OWC memory.
> 
> On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
> >
> > Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles
> with some
> > brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a
> "low-profile"
> > DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the
> "normal"
> > sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is
> for the
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> > Ken
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Ram in a Wallstreet

[James Sanderson]

I can second this comment from personal experience.  OS X is picky 
about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't had any issues 
with OWC memory.

On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles with some
brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a "low-profile"
DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the "normal"
sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is for the
Wallstreet bottom slot.
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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 01/01/2005 07:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB
>bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB
>stick on the bottom slot without problems?
>TIA,
>PETE.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles with some
brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a "low-profile"
DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the "normal"
sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is for the
Wallstreet bottom slot.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz

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On Jan 1, 2005, at 10:22 AM, PETE wrote:
I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB
bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB
stick on the bottom slot without problems?
Yes. Before I parted with mine a couple of years ago I'd installed a 
total of 512 in it, and it worked quite well. In fact, I traded it to a 
friend and it's still running great with system 10.2. IIRC, you'll need 
a low profile RAM for the bottom slot.

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Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz

[PETE]

I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB
bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB
stick on the bottom slot without problems?
TIA,
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Re: Wallstreet and Lexmark Jumpdrive

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On Wednesday, December 29, 2004, at 05:51 PM, Hubert Phillips II wrote:
Does anyone have experience getting a Lexmark Jumpdrive connected to a 
Wallstreet via a USB card to mount on the desktop?
I am running OS 9.2.2 and finally have my USB card working.  The Apple 
System Profiler even sees the Jumpdrive and the card as connected.  
But the drive does not show up on my desktop...

IIRC I had to install some special JumpDrive drivers, and it was 
inconsistent, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I ended up just 
getting a regular USB card reader and using that. My two JumpDrive 
flash cards work fine in those as well.

Also, make sure you have the various PC compatibility extensions 
loaded, as it mounts as an MS-DOS volume.

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Re: Wallstreet 3400 AC adapter compatibility

[Kenneth Vann]

>I'm looking on E-bay for an WAllstreet AC adapter as backup
>and  find one that looks like the one that came with my Wallstreet
>but they list compatibility with 3400 et.al.
>
>Are they?
>
>If so I have a back up for my 3400
>so I'd be set.
>
>thanks,
>Cliff

Check This Out.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=16168

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75448


Dont forget, a recall covered the Model Number: M4402 adaptor, made by two
different vendors.

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Re: Wallstreet

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 29/12/2004 20:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Was wondering about swapping CD and floppy module's, etc. Do I need to
>shut the computer down to swap out the mod's and/or battery's?

Modules, even batteries, if using AC, can be inserted and removed
while the machine is "live."

>Also, will I need to shut down to add or remove external keyboard or mouse?

Hmm. Not sure of the "official" advice, but the ADB and serial ports on
other Macs generally carry the "warning" to shut down before connecting
or disconnecting.

Ken

P.S.

Just checked the User Manual.

No mention of turning off for Printers.
Shut down of sleep for modems.
WARNING When connecting SCSI equipment, always turn off power to
all devices in the chain, including your computer. If you don¹t, you
could lose information and damage your equipment.
IMPORTANT You must shut down the computer or put it in sleep before
connecting an ADB device.

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Re: Wallstreet 3400 AC adapter compatibility

[Andrew F.]

I have both a Kanga (same as 3400c except for processor), a Lombard and a
Pismo, and all work great from the same adapters.

Andrew


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> I'm looking on E-bay for an WAllstreet AC adapter as backup
> and  find one that looks like the one that came with my Wallstreet
> but they list compatibility with 3400 et.al.
> 
> Are they?
> 
> If so I have a back up for my 3400
> so I'd be set.
> 
> thanks,
> Cliff



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Wallstreet

[William Hughes]

Was wondering about swapping CD and floppy module's, etc. Do I need to 
shut the computer down to swap out the mod's and/or battery's? Also, 
will I need to shut down to add or remove external keyboard or mouse?

Thanks
Bill
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Re: Wallstreet 3400 AC adapter compatibility

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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:54 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm looking on E-bay for an WAllstreet AC adapter as backup
> and  find one that looks like the one that came with my Wallstreet
> but they list compatibility with 3400 et.al.
> 
> Are they?
> 
> If so I have a back up for my 3400
> so I'd be set.

Cliff: 

Such information are readily available from the Apple Support website.
 See the following document and related references:

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=16168>

Fabian

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Wallstreet 3400 AC adapter compatibility

[CR]

I'm looking on E-bay for an WAllstreet AC adapter as backup
and  find one that looks like the one that came with my Wallstreet
but they list compatibility with 3400 et.al.
Are they?
If so I have a back up for my 3400
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HotRod ing Wallstreet

[CR]

I'm getting to appreciate the Wallstreet II
OS 9.1
and some of the upgrade options.
It occurs to me that upgrading really needs to be
guided by what what "wants to do."
Basically, my 3400 is find for almost everything
I want to do, except receiving real time video streaming
via RealPlayer. My church broadcasts regularly and the
Wallstreet is way better for  this.
So, I'm wondering if there are specific suggestions
for upgrading the key elements that will enhance this function.
The motherboard upgrade?
More RAM?
I wonder if I could get a scaled down 9.1 and RealPlayer
on a RAMdisk?
All suggestions are appreciated.
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Wallstreet and Lexmark Jumpdrive

[Hubert Phillips II]

Does anyone have experience getting a Lexmark Jumpdrive connected to a 
Wallstreet via a USB card to mount on the desktop?
I am running OS 9.2.2 and finally have my USB card working.  The Apple 
System Profiler even sees the Jumpdrive and the card as connected.  But 
the drive does not show up on my desktop...

Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Wallstreet queries

[kaldav]

Hello,
I have just acquired a Wallstreet (292 mhz, 64 mb ram, 5 GB hd with 
OS 9.1) which has a yellow tinge along the bottom of the screen for 
about half an inch. Is there a cure, besides a new screen?

Also, the Re-set of: Shift, Control, FN and Power does not work and I 
have had to pull the plug out to shut it off after it froze. Are 
there other suggestions for a way to shut it off?
Thanks.

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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[Dan K]

Can't swap a standard slim drive into a WS CD-ROM or DVD-ROM EBM sled. 
See here for more info:
<http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html#wallstreet>

As someone mentioned, there were a few CD/RWs produced by MCE, and they 
are indeed quite rare. I'll repeat my usual plea here for details, if 
anyone has one and could take some pics of the inside for me I'd be able 
to add that info to my EBM page. (TIA :-)

dan k

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Re: Wallstreet

[Mikael Byström]

Ben Dyer said:

>My understanding is that the problem is in the PMU settings, not the 
>PRAM. 
Do you remember a source?
>Steps 2 and 3 may well be unnecessary on some models, but are 
>required on mine. As for pressing the brightness button, I find that it 
>will only fix the problem if the backlight is off after startup; when 
>the backlight fails to turn on after waking from sleep, the brightness 
>controls do nothing.
This may very well be true if one fails to recognize the problem, yanks
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ooops .Re: WS upgrades (was CD-RW for Wallstreet?)

[PETE]

Sorry, I forgot to include the link in the last
posting. Here it is:
http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=170&cat=3&page=1
--- PETE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's a 500MHz G3 upgrade for a Wallstreet, for
> those
> interested. Is it worth it?
> --- CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Really interesting stuff in reference to the CD-RW
> ?
> > Raised more questions.
> > 
> > I cannot seem to connect to PowerLogix have they
> > folded?
> > If not, what is the relative difference between
> the
> > PowerLogix and 
> > Sonnet Tech ugrade boards?
> > Sonnet offers their 500MHz upgrades in G4 and G3
> > units:
> >   Does this mean you can upgrade a G3 WS to a
> > G4?
> >   What would be the advantage to that?
> > 
> > The MCE stuff also looks interesting.
> > I'll have to dig a little deeper there.
> > 
> > As always.
> > Thanks.
> > Cliff
> > 
> > 
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Re: WS upgrades (was CD-RW for Wallstreet?)

[PETE]

Here's a 500MHz G3 upgrade for a Wallstreet, for those
interested. Is it worth it?
--- CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Really interesting stuff in reference to the CD-RW ?
> Raised more questions.
> 
> I cannot seem to connect to PowerLogix have they
> folded?
> If not, what is the relative difference between the
> PowerLogix and 
> Sonnet Tech ugrade boards?
> Sonnet offers their 500MHz upgrades in G4 and G3
> units:
>   Does this mean you can upgrade a G3 WS to a
> G4?
>   What would be the advantage to that?
> 
> The MCE stuff also looks interesting.
> I'll have to dig a little deeper there.
> 
> As always.
> Thanks.
> Cliff
> 
> 
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WS upgrades (was CD-RW for Wallstreet?)

[CR]

Really interesting stuff in reference to the CD-RW ?
Raised more questions.
I cannot seem to connect to PowerLogix have they folded?
If not, what is the relative difference between the PowerLogix and 
Sonnet Tech ugrade boards?
Sonnet offers their 500MHz upgrades in G4 and G3 units:
 Does this mean you can upgrade a G3 WS to a G4?
 What would be the advantage to that?

The MCE stuff also looks interesting.
I'll have to dig a little deeper there.
As always.
Thanks.
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Ooops. Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[PETE]

Sorry about that. Here's the link :
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/action.lasso?-search
--- PETE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> These two fellows talk about a cdrw for a wall
> street,
> I don't know whether they're slide ins or not.
> --- Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Sunday, December 26, 2004, at 09:43 PM, CR
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Someone listed a request on our local Craig's
> List
> > > for a Wallstreet CD-RW.
> > > Is there such a slide in module for the
> > Wallstreet?
> > > That would be interesting.
> > > Cliff
> > 
> > What you probably have to do is get a bare
> > mechanism, and attach it to 
> > the carrier for the existing CD.
> > <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has 
> > details of compatible mechanisms.
> > 
> > I've been looking for a similar solution for a
> > clamshell iBook. Dan K 
> > gave me some details on this list just the other
> day
> > under the title 
> > "CDRW for clamshell iBook"
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> Ph.D.
> > Bruce Johnson
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Monday, December 27, 2004, at 10:39 AM, PETE wrote:
These two fellows talk about a cdrw for a wall street,
I don't know whether they're slide ins or not.
Wallstreet CD's are indeed removable devices: 
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43117> Specs for the 
14" series.

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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[PETE]

These two fellows talk about a cdrw for a wall street,
I don't know whether they're slide ins or not.
--- Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> On Sunday, December 26, 2004, at 09:43 PM, CR wrote:
> 
> > Someone listed a request on our local Craig's List
> > for a Wallstreet CD-RW.
> > Is there such a slide in module for the
> Wallstreet?
> > That would be interesting.
> > Cliff
> 
> What you probably have to do is get a bare
> mechanism, and attach it to 
> the carrier for the existing CD.
> <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has 
> details of compatible mechanisms.
> 
> I've been looking for a similar solution for a
> clamshell iBook. Dan K 
> gave me some details on this list just the other day
> under the title 
> "CDRW for clamshell iBook"
> 
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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sunday, December 26, 2004, at 09:43 PM, CR wrote:
Someone listed a request on our local Craig's List
for a Wallstreet CD-RW.
Is there such a slide in module for the Wallstreet?
That would be interesting.
Cliff
What you probably have to do is get a bare mechanism, and attach it to 
the carrier for the existing CD. <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has 
details of compatible mechanisms.

I've been looking for a similar solution for a clamshell iBook. Dan K 
gave me some details on this list just the other day under the title 
"CDRW for clamshell iBook"

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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:43:04 -0800, CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone listed a request on our local Craig's List
> for a Wallstreet CD-RW.
> Is there such a slide in module for the Wallstreet?
> That would be interesting.
> Cliff

Check out this article in MacOpinion, written over three years ago by
Charles Moore:
<http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/01/11/20/>

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Re: CD-RW for Wallstreet?

[Ben Dyer]

Yes, there is a third-party CD-RW module for the WS. They're 
unbelievably rare, though. Good luck tracking one down.

Cheers,
Ben
On 27 Dec 2004, at 15:43, CR wrote:
Someone listed a request on our local Craig's List
for a Wallstreet CD-RW.
Is there such a slide in module for the Wallstreet?
That would be interesting.
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Someone listed a request on our local Craig's List
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Is there such a slide in module for the Wallstreet?
That would be interesting.
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Re: Wallstreet

[Ben Dyer]

My understanding is that the problem is in the PMU settings, not the 
PRAM. Steps 2 and 3 may well be unnecessary on some models, but are 
required on mine. As for pressing the brightness button, I find that it 
will only fix the problem if the backlight is off after startup; when 
the backlight fails to turn on after waking from sleep, the brightness 
controls do nothing.

On 25 Dec 2004, at 13:13, Mikael Byström wrote:
Ben Dyer said:
This is a known issue with the Wallstreet under Jaguar. To fix this
problem:
* Restart into MacOS 9
* Put the Wallstreet to sleep
* Wake it up again
* Restart into Jaguar
As I have stated earlier on-list, I have a differing experience in that
step 2 and 3 above was unnecessary. However, to be able  to boot into 
OS
X, when in OS 9, you have to choose OS X as the startup disk with the
associated control panel. During the first boot, when you do this, the
machine may (or may not) freeze. On the second boot, this will not
happen. Something to do with garbled NVRAM or PRAM Settings I have
speculated. I never investigated, but if anyone want to check this, 
they
could run the command:
sudo nvram -p

in the terminal and compare the individual settings when the machine
doesn't have this display problem, with when the machine do have the
problem. In order to do the latter one could direct a strong light 
source
to the display in order to see. This worked for me., for doing restarts
into OS 9. I do think if possible it's ok to press the backlight 
buttons
a few times to kick in the backlights if this is possible, as, for me 
at
least, the problem came back at next restart, indicating the settings
were the same even if you pressed those buttons. Most often for me, I
couldn't get back the backlight, if I didn't press those buttons
somewhere around midway thru the boot process, before Aqua. After that
did not work. There may be other variations of course.
Interesting. I think your interpretation is probably right; my PRAM 
battery was *completely* dead. Power failure during sleep does put more 
strain on the PRAM battery, as the Wallstreet uses the battery to back 
up the contents of main memory for 15-30 seconds (to enable battery 
changeover during sleep).

Every time the power is interrupted (i.e. you take the power cord out,
while no working battery is present), you will have to repeat the
procedure--even if the Wallstreet was turned off at the time you
removed the power cord.
For me this problem *only* appeared if the wallstreet was in sleep or
running when the power was cutoff. It's possible the difference is
because my backup battery had a small load and yours didn't have one at
all, but I'm not sure. My experience is somewhat different, however, 
and
I thought it worth mentioning.
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Re: Wallstreet

[Mikael Byström]

Ben Dyer said:

>This is a known issue with the Wallstreet under Jaguar. To fix this 
>problem:
>* Restart into MacOS 9
>* Put the Wallstreet to sleep
>* Wake it up again
>* Restart into Jaguar
As I have stated earlier on-list, I have a differing experience in that
step 2 and 3 above was unnecessary. However, to be able  to boot into OS
X, when in OS 9, you have to choose OS X as the startup disk with the
associated control panel. During the first boot, when you do this, the
machine may (or may not) freeze. On the second boot, this will not
happen. Something to do with garbled NVRAM or PRAM Settings I have
speculated. I never investigated, but if anyone want to check this, they
could run the command:
sudo nvram -p

in the terminal and compare the individual settings when the machine
doesn't have this display problem, with when the machine do have the
problem. In order to do the latter one could direct a strong light source
to the display in order to see. This worked for me., for doing restarts
into OS 9. I do think if possible it's ok to press the backlight buttons
a few times to kick in the backlights if this is possible, as, for me at
least, the problem came back at next restart, indicating the settings
were the same even if you pressed those buttons. Most often for me, I
couldn't get back the backlight, if I didn't press those buttons
somewhere around midway thru the boot process, before Aqua. After that
did not work. There may be other variations of course.
  
>Every time the power is interrupted (i.e. you take the power cord out, 
>while no working battery is present), you will have to repeat the 
>procedure--even if the Wallstreet was turned off at the time you 
>removed the power cord.
For me this problem *only* appeared if the wallstreet was in sleep or
running when the power was cutoff. It's possible the difference is
because my backup battery had a small load and yours didn't have one at
all, but I'm not sure. My experience is somewhat different, however, and
I thought it worth mentioning.


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Re: Wallstreet no-longer-dead Final

[CR]

At 9:13 PM -0800 12/23/04, Alejandro wrote:
 If OS 9 works fine, do not run any updates (you can
find a bug on OS 9.2 because it ads some things as
authoring support. Wallstreets must have an internal
CD-RW to use that for example).
 That's because OS 9 is a fixed OS 8.6 wich must works
on OS X as Classic.
 OS 9.1 was introduced because OS 9.0.4 had some
problems on OS X and 9.2 to add more features and
compatibility with OS X Jaguar and Panther.
 You will add more stuff wich will not work at all.
 I believe that.
Thank you,
That is very good information and advise.
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[CR]

Thanks for everyone's help.
Basically I have a working  233 MHz Wallstreet with 288M RAM
when I get and install replacement PCMCIA cage from Ebay
and a replacement CD module from LEM Swap
I should be in pretty good shape.
I think I'll consider upgrading the HD as well
Turning on AppleTalk Ethernet solved the connection
problem (though I haven't tried at home yet).
Running OS 9.1
Any reason to go to 9.2?
All in all potentially a neat machine, but at first
blush I like my 3400 better.
Thanks again to everyone.
What a remarkable resource these lists are!
Happy Holidays,
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[CR]

That worked.Thank you Jack
Cliff
Next, go to the appletalk control panel and be sure its set to
ethernet...not printer port...and turned on.
Then go back to TCPIP and check again.
If still nothing, reboot and check again.
~~~
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 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:08:46 -0800
 From: CR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: No DHCP on Walstreet Ethernet (was not-so-dead)
 I found the RJ45 jack on the back of the Wallstreet.
 Plugged in direct rather than my Falleron PCMCIA card.
 Turned on Apple Ethernet Ext.
 TCP selects Ethernet but DHCP produces no numbers.
 Suggestions.
 Thank you.
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Re: Wallstreet

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 22/12/04 22:34, Steven J Haack at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a wallstreet 300mhz. It needed a new pram battery which I
> replaced. The main power battery was dead at that time. After running
> the computer a few days with no trouble I shut it down and turned it
> back on 2 days later. The clock had jumped forward by about 20 years. I
> didn't think much about it. I replace the main battery and it seemed to
> work fine. This last week I turned on the machine and it doesn't show
> the charge symbol(with the power cord attached) and the new battery is
> dead and the charging bays wont charge the battery or a known good one.
> I have tested all the batteries on a good wallstreet same model. Is the
> problem with the PMU or the charging board. BTW The new battery is
> completely dead it refuses to take a charge. Thank you for any help you
> can provide.

I would guess that the PMU went South. Did you try to reset it?

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Wallstreet

[Steven J Haack]

I have a wallstreet 300mhz. It needed a new pram battery which I 
replaced. The main power battery was dead at that time. After running 
the computer a few days with no trouble I shut it down and turned it 
back on 2 days later. The clock had jumped forward by about 20 years. I 
didn't think much about it. I replace the main battery and it seemed to 
work fine. This last week I turned on the machine and it doesn't show 
the charge symbol(with the power cord attached) and the new battery is 
dead and the charging bays wont charge the battery or a known good one. 
I have tested all the batteries on a good wallstreet same model. Is the 
problem with the PMU or the charging board. BTW The new battery is 
completely dead it refuses to take a charge. Thank you for any help you 
can provide.
Shaack 

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Wallstreet not-so-dead update

[CR]

I think I initially had two problems.
1. the HD was so hopelessly fragmented that it was seriously bogging, 
stalling & freezing.
2. the battery is essentially dead and the power adapter plug dirty.
I may not have been getting a good connections so eventually I was losing
power and would have to wait. I don't know.

Anyway, I'm now getting consistent boots from disk and was able to
initialize the HD from Disk Set Up.
Start up, however, is slow and noisy.
I'm thinking maybe the CD drive is cranky.
I see DVD drives on E-bay. Presumably they run CDs too. but are they
worth the premium? or is DVD standard Wallstreet.
So, I boot from a 9.2 install disk but cannot install because
I get a dialogue telling me  "Instaler cannot be found"
or "Disk Error" depending on which icon I click.
Hmmm. Guess I'll have to try my 9.1 installer.
I did zap the PRAM as suggested but was unable to rest NVRAM
as directed since the PB goes directly to disk with nothing on the HD.
Maybe that shouldn't matter but Cmd-Opt-O-F didn't seem to do
anything (did I hold it long enough?)
I didn't know where or was never prompted to type "reset-nvram" and "reset-all"
Any experience with PowerBook Medic.com Service Manuals.
Reasonable at $9.95
Thanks for all the help.
Cliff

At 1:54 PM -0500 12/21/04, G-Books wrote:
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikael=20Bystr=F6m?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wallstreet Dead
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:32:25 +0100
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Laurent Daudelin said:
I think your hard disk is busted.
Why? Shouldn't some serious errors turn up when running disktests? I
think rather that there is a NVRAM or PRAM problem.
Facing the same symptoms I'd start with a fundamental reset (starting up
with Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing "reset-nvram" and "reset-all" and on the
following boot Cmd-Opt-P-R three chimes), followed with a low level
format of the drive, while booted from CD and then drive testing.

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Re: Wallstreet LCD - compatibility?

[Mikael Byström]

Bill Gau said:

>Getting ready to replace a failing LCD on a PDQ (i.e., Rev. 2, 2nd
>generation Wallstreet) and I am wondering if there is compatibility
>betw. the Lombard LCD and possibly the Pismo LCD.  Same dimensions,
>ribbon cables, etc.  Does anyone know?

I used a 13" from the WS I on my WS II (the PDQ) for a while and I assume
that the displays from the 6 WS models could be interchanged between
models. But the cable connectors for Lombard and Pismo are different as
far as I know, so I don't see how it could be done, unless you really
know what you are doing and can get around the connector problem.


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Re: Wallstreet Dead

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 20/12/04 19:32, Mikael Byström at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Laurent Daudelin said:
> 
>> I think your hard disk is busted.
> 
> Why? Shouldn't some serious errors turn up when running disktests? I
> think rather that there is a NVRAM or PRAM problem.
> Facing the same symptoms I'd start with a fundamental reset (starting up
> with Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing "reset-nvram" and "reset-all" and on the
> following boot Cmd-Opt-P-R three chimes), followed with a low level
> format of the drive, while booted from CD and then drive testing.

Ok, so, you did deep reset the NVRAM. Is the drive now working?

-Laurent.
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Re: Wallstreet Dead

[Mikael Byström]

Laurent Daudelin said:

>I think your hard disk is busted.

Why? Shouldn't some serious errors turn up when running disktests? I
think rather that there is a NVRAM or PRAM problem. 
Facing the same symptoms I'd start with a fundamental reset (starting up
with Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing "reset-nvram" and "reset-all" and on the
following boot Cmd-Opt-P-R three chimes), followed with a low level
format of the drive, while booted from CD and then drive testing.


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Re: Pismo HD - Wallstreet HD - The same?

[Anne Judge]

On Dec 18, 2004, at 9:32 AM, Jeff Hubatka wrote:
The Wallstreet came with the larger 17mm drives, the Lombard/Pismo 
could only use 12.5 max.
Actually, I was just looking at my original WallStreet (266, 4GB HD, 
from the end of the production run as the Lombard was just about to be 
or had been introduced) drive - I replaced it years ago, but had just 
gotten a 2.5" case and was going to put the old drive in it now, only 
to find it had mysteriously died - but anyway, I noticed in the 
description on the label that it is 9.5mm.

So the Wallstreet fits a larger drive, but at least mine didn't come 
with one.

(That measurement has gotta be the height, right?  And it is a really 
skinny drive compared to other notebook drives I've seen.)

Anne
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Re: Pismo HD - Wallstreet HD - The same?

[Jeff Hubatka]

On Dec 17, 2004, at 11:57 AM, G-Books wrote:
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:11:40 -0700
From: Bill Gau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pismo HD - Wallstreet HD - The same?
Following the discussion on the Pismo HD replacement with considerable
interest.
I am wondering if the harddrive specs for the Pismo are the same for
the Wallstreet & Rev. 2 (PDQ).
Someone who is in the know please let me know.
Thanks.
The Wallstreet came with the larger 17mm drives, the Lombard/Pismo 
could only use 12.5 max.

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Re: Wallstreet LCD - compatibility?

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I did see a G3 of some sort for sale on ebay UK a whaile back that 
had the wrong lid fitted.  Seller claimed it worked fine but didn't 
quite shut properly.

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Re: Wallstreet LCD - compatibility?

[Ben Dyer]

I'm fairly sure displays are completely incompatible between PowerBook 
models. Wallstreet displays are going for less on eBay, so there's 
probably not much point in finding out for sure.

Cheers,
Ben
On 18 Dec 2004, at 05:42, Bill Gau wrote:
To all:
Getting ready to replace a failing LCD on a PDQ (i.e., Rev. 2, 2nd
generation Wallstreet) and I am wondering if there is compatibility
betw. the Lombard LCD and possibly the Pismo LCD.  Same dimensions,
ribbon cables, etc.  Does anyone know?
Just the LCD itself, not the entire lid.  I suspect the Pismo lid is 
different.

Thanks in advance.
Regards

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