RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]
I would counter that looking at this as a professors vs. statues argument is flawed. I can't imagine that the booster(s) that are paying for this wouldn't give the money for academic purposes if requested, rather they have been asked to donate for this purpose. Now why would we ask them to do this? As has been previously stated, we are in an arms race to fund our athletic programs and be in a position to donate significant dollars back to the university. That arms race is in part fueled by winning teams, which are created with tremendous student-athletes. Now, what do you think will influence that stud RB to attend UF, a new religion professor or seeing those statues, knowing that one day he might have one too? It can be argued that without the statues, we will lose recruits, which will cost us to lose some games, which will reduce donations (see the Zook years) and ultimately have less money going back to the academic side of the university. Having said all of that, I don't like the statues. Not because of who or how they are being funded, I just think the whole idea is tacky. And I certainly wouldn't put one up of SOS until he leaves the cocks and retires. Ken K. MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:59 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe] Ok, Zeb! Gosh! You have me questioning my own position on this. You raise some very good points concerning the UAA vs the university. Man, are you a lawyer or some thing? :-) -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:39:05 PM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe] On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: That is why it's called a donation. Giving more money to the university could be justified in any year, not just this year when things are bad. If the UAA were part of the University, it would be called a budget. But for the University, the UAA would not earn a dime. Semi-pro football founders, and even minor league baseball has trouble making money (with better players than play NCAA ball). So, I have trouble understanding that, when an arm of the University comes in under-budget, why not spending more money is considered a donation. Actually, the UAA gives more money than most other schools get out of their sports programs. Besides, who do you think funds softball, soccer and lacrosse? Ticket sales? Not only the sports, but all the scholarships related to ALL of the non-revenue sports at UF are funded by UAA. Well, OK, but how does this matter? Wouldn't they be part of the athletic department budget at another school? Money is fungible. I think your real point is that football pays for everything. Fine, but understand that a football-only athletic department would have serious Title IX problems, and that the non-revenue women's sports could reasonably be considered a part of the cost of operating the football program. The vast majority of colleges don't do that, nor do they even run in the black in any given year. That takes money directly away from professors at f$U. Does the financial success of the UF football program depend upon: 1. our students and alumni 2. our success on the field 3. the adroitness of the UAA? I recall selling out Florida Field in 1979 when we were 0-10-1. I have trouble believing that, but for the UAA, we would not have the same football revenue. Maybe we should pull a Vandy, and bring all of athletics in-house. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/13 22:44 --- Come fall, UF students can use private insurers to pay campus medical bills [Keenan]
Really Oh My. My only hope is that these Quidditch players will use this money on something useful, like beer. I really do appreciate the University supporting all kinds of activities, but this borders on the ridiculous, almost as much as giving $430 to the Freethought club (maybe we should put something in our constitution that guarantees free speech.). The Quidditch Club, a sport created in the Harry Potter series that involves students running around with broomsticks in between their legs while trying to score points by throwing ball in a hula hoop, received $352. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:28 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/13 22:44 --- Come fall, UF students can use private insurers to pay campus medical bills [Keenan] Come fall, UF students can use private insurers to pay campus medical bills By Chelsea Keenan Gainesville SUN Correspondent Published: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 at 10:44 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 at 10:44 p.m. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
Gifts from family members are allowed. My problem with this whole situation, if true, is the selfishness of the act. He could have taken the $100k as soon as the game was over, no problem. But by taking it, if he did, before the game he basically thumbed his nose at his teammates and made all of their preparation and sacrifice for naught. From the bits I have read, it sounds like this money was not from the agent he signed with and this agent is now 'leaking; the information out. I am hoping that it went down something like the agent sends a unsolicited check for $100k, Maurkice gets it, doesn't cash it and signs with another agent. He thinks he has done nothing wrong since he never actually took the money and didn't sign with the agent. In any case, while some are trying to make this look bad for Florida, overall it is an NCAA problem and unscrupulous agents. It does seem like the NCAA is really trying hard to enforce it this year, so maybe something good will come from it. Trying to compare this situation to Reggie Bush is laughable. USCw never self reported and denied any wrong-doing, even when agents and runners were allowed at practices. Jeremy has handled this like he has all other issues, with class and integrity. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:01 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Aren't gifts to family members also an NCAA no-no? Don't we still have this guy's brother on the roster? -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Woody wrote: So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed about it. USC-west didnt. It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]
It's not a requirement that you automatically vacate wins, just that is a punishment option. In this case, unless it is proven we should have known or did know, I wouldn't expect us to have to vacate the win. But it is a possibility. If it wasn't it would be a very unenforceable rule, everyone would say, well we didn't know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] So, what did we have to vacate because of Jevon Kearse? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:55 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Incorrect. Regardless of whether we knew about it or not, if he was ineligible and played we can have the victory vacated. Remember, that was SOWs defense against the cheating scandal - we didn't know they cheated so why should poor Bobby have to vacate wins _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:48 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game would be vacated. Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories. This is a long way from anything like that. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press] I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although, wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?). Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me. -Zeb On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is not much to worry about -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]
Top Rivalries?? 1. Georgia 2. Jawga 3. UGA 4. scum 5. SOW Alabama doesn't even appear on the list. Dooley may sway with the wind on who is a rival, but Bama has not been a traditional rival and while both their program and ours are peaking at the same time, it will have to continue like this for the next 5 or 6 years for it to become a true rivalry. As it stands now, we wont play them for 4 more years after this year unless they can make it back to the SECC to meet us in our rightful position. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley] So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order). What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU still has to prove it's back. ** 15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop? 16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12 gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to understand those lagging season ticket sales. 17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation. It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way - 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely. Discuss. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote: Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals By Pat Dooley mailto:dool...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN sports writer Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season. Because I said so. 10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh, wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what he does for a living he'd say, I watch grass grow. Which would have been twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder why he missed the cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad production values and way too much love for the mystique of the tourney. That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger Woods could still play. 11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but I am going to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was supposed to be his return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth is the mental strain seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1 golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation for the way he played, especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on Saturday. 12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson kissed the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old course. Watson said he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's probably played his last British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And kudos to Tiger for letting Watson's group play up. Watson has been one of Tiger's biggest critics, but there are times when you have to let those things go. 13. Speaking of which, Michael Jordan needs to back off his criticism of LeBron James. Jordan said he wouldn't have gotten together with other superstars to form a super
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/21 19:10 --- McElroy out to improve Tide's timing [Aschoff]
Wasn't this the same kid that said he was hoping to be a sports agent in a news article earlier this week It's a dream right now for McElroy, but becoming a Rhodes Scholar could go a long way to helping him improve the lives of others once football is over. I just want to make a difference, he said. What I would like to see is one of these reporters follow-up with a question - Didn't you say you wanted to be a sports agent? Yeah, I want to make a difference, do you realize how hard it is for an NFL cornerback to live on $4M a year? _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:08 AM To: GatorNEWS Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/21 19:10 --- McElroy out to improve Tide's timing [Aschoff] McElroy out to improve Tide's timing http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100721Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100729896Ref=ARMaxW=600border=0 Alabama QB Greg McElroy talks with members of the media at SEC Media Days in Hoover, Ala. on Wednesday. (AP photo) By Edward Aschoff Gainesville SUN Correspondent Published: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 7:10 p.m. Last Modified: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 7:10 p.m. HOOVER, Ala. - Greg McElroy is on a never-ending quest to better himself. Sure, he's 14-0 as the starting quarterback at Alabama and he's got an SEC and national championship ring to show off, but that's not enough. He wants his senior year to be about improving as a football player, while keeping that unbeaten record intact. To help, McElroy sought advice from one of the best in the sport. For the last couple of weeks, McElroy had the privilege of hanging out with Super Bowl-winning Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning. The future NFL Hall of Famer told McElroy that in order to keep his success churning, timing has got to become an obsession. That is so important for a guy that's not going to be able to throw it through a brick wall, McElroy said. McElroy has worked constantly on trying to get the ball out of his hand as fast as possible. He's studied endless film, learning how his players move and how defenses operate. But the thing that's helped the most is actually getting together with his receivers to work on plays. Timing has truly turned into an obsession for him and his receivers, with the objective of having one of the nation's most exciting offenses. We want to be in the upper echelon of having explosive plays, he said. But McElroy's summer hasn't been all about football. The senior finished his second draft of the essay he's submitting to become a Rhodes Scholar and study at Oxford University in England. The 1,000-word essay on his intellectual journey from childhood to well into his future will focus on attempting to answer the question if talent on the football field and social and academic interaction are learned or natural. McElroy called former Florida State safety and Rhodes Scholar Myron Rolle on Tuesday for advice as he awaits his fate. McElroy will have his interview Nov. 20 - the Saturday before the Auburn game. It's a dream right now for McElroy, but becoming a Rhodes Scholar could go a long way to helping him improve the lives of others once football is over. I just want to make a difference, he said. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44!
Yeah, but what I really need is the analysis of his facial expression. Is he a player? Is that smile because he's nice or because he just stole someone's lunch money? _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:59 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44! Which means - about 14 days (2 weeks) till practice starts !!! Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44! From: Jay Cicone mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com jay.cic...@raymondjames.com Date: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:56 am To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Yeah---day 44. No comment. Thanks, Darlene. From: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: mailto:Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44! #44 - Duke Lemmens Duke Lemmens - 2007 Duke is a 6-3, 253 lbs. true senior Defensive End from Westlake Village, California (Oaks Christian HS) who has played in 32 games, with one career start. He has recorded 23 tackles (14 solo) including three tackles for a loss and 2 quarterback sacks, as well as one forced fumble. He is majoring in Sports Management. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.usimage001.jpg
[gatortalk] My new favorite SEC coach
Any coach who can get up in front of 800 credentialed media and talk about inseminating turkeys has got to be tops! Vanderbilt may not win a game, but it does appear they have traded Steve Martin for Larry the Cable Guy as head coach. Robbie Caldwell is a hoot; if you get a chance to watch his presser on ESPNu it is well worthwhile. Spurrier on the other hand was quite boring. They offered up the bait for him to bite, but he wouldn't. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/22 17:36 --- SEC notebook: Caldwell leaves media in stitches [Andreu]
A couple of interesting quotes out of this article: Lots of pool time for Mallett I've been doing a lot of swimming to stay in condition. I haven't been able to run to this point, so I've been swimming a lot, doing a lot of weight room stuff with upper body. It's really helped me out. So Mallett is supposed to be all everything QB this year, but 2 weeks away from two a days and he still isn't running? Swimming can get you in great shape and condition, but running is different, after all, swimmers run to condition. If I were, god forbid, an Arkansas fan, this would be hugely concerning to me. Garcia finally getting it? I'm his roommate and I've seen a huge change, fullback Patrick DiMarco said. He's matured a lot. He's busting his butt, putting in the extra effort, working on his own with the receivers this summer, things that I haven't seen before. Hopefully, that will translate on the field. Spurrier gets all kinds of grief for the way he handles his QBs, but maybe some are just head cases. When your roommate praises you for busting your butt, but then qualifies it by saying Hopefully, that will translate on the field. That tells me that Garcia has been a slacker and even his teammate is questioning whether or not he will be able to get over the hump. Sounds like another 7 win season for SOS. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:27 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/22 17:36 --- SEC notebook: Caldwell leaves media in stitches [Andreu] SEC notebook: Caldwell leaves media in stitches http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100722Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100729834Ref=ARMaxW=600border=0 Doug Finger/Staff photographer Buy http://reprints.gainesville.com/cgi-bin/fotobroker.cgi?c=latest.htma=op_b y_line=containsby_line=Fingerb=photo_dbs=t=show=3-4 photo Vanderbilt interim head coach Robbie Caldwell during day two of SEC Media Days at the Wynfrey Hotel in Hoover, Ala., Thursday. By Robbie Andreu mailto:andr...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Staff writer Published: Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 5:36 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 5:36 p.m. HOOVER, Ala. - After all this serious and somber talk about agents and NCAA investigations, the mood at SEC Media Days was lightened considerably Thursday by a refreshing and humorous blast of good, old-fashioned homespun country air. New Vanderbilt coach Robbie Caldwell practically charmed the socks off the media with the tales he spun about growing up in tiny Pageland, S.C., and now having the opportunity to be a head coach after being a life-long assistant for more than 30 years. Caldwell held a captive (and laughing) audience for the 45 minutes he was on the podium. He was so genuine, so funny (and so different form the other head coaches) that he draw applause from the media when he finished. That's probably a first in SEC Media Days history. In less than an hour, Caldwell went from a complete unknown to possibly the most popular coach in the SEC (with the media, at least). He came here as such an unknown, he said someone gave him a tip when he held the door open for him at a restaurant Wednesday night. Oh, man, I got a dollar and a half. I gave it back to him, Caldwell said. I thought it was pretty good. He just gave me the change he had left. I thought that was pretty good. I wish I knew the name of the restaurant here. Golly, it was fantastic. By the way, I ate quail. I kept my heritage there. It was pretty neat. With a warm, friendly Southern drawl, Caldwell sounds a lot like Bobby Bowden. But it's doubtful Bobby has ever been this funny. Here are some Caldwell highlights: * On his work ethic - All I know how to do is work. I grew up in it. I've been a worker all my life. My wife said, 'You can't talk about anything but football.' I can. I can talk about pouring concrete, farming, being a pipe-fitter, working on a turkey farm. Those are the things I did prior to getting into football. That's the God's truth. * On whether the other coaches have welcomed him - No, not a one. No offense to them, but they don't know me. They will. * On whether he will continue to enforce Bobby Johnson's no profanity policy - You know, I'm no angel, that's for certain. You know, it's a sign of limited vocabulary sometimes. I know ya'll can't tell it, but I have an education. * On growing up in Pageland, S.C. - You had to like watermelon, No. 1, because it was the watermelon capitol of the world, we proclaimed anyway. You had to like hunting and fishing. Frog gigging. I was scared to death of girls, so that didn't interest me. And I played ball. We all played sports to get out of work. ... My first hourly paying job was on the turkey farm. I don't know if I could tell you what my job was, but I was on the inseminating crew. That's a fact. Best job I ever had, got paid by the
RE: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- DOOLEY's DESK --- the Vandy solution [Dooley]
It as difficult for the average student, not for the student athlete. While Florida may be more stringent on athletes than others, we are no where near as stringent as Vandy, Duke or Stanford, none of which have won a NC in the modern age of football. I think the argument to get rid of Vandy is spurious at best. They compete very well against us in football, never win but always make it interesting. And they are competitive in basketball, baseball and the non-revenue sports. The more interesting comparison would be to look at Vandy and it's place in the SEC vs the bottom dwellers of other conferences. If you put Vandy in a conference with Washington State, Minnesota, Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, Syracuse, Kansas, Baylor, Indiana, Arizona State and Marykand, where do you think they would rank? My bet would be near the top every year. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:24 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- DOOLEY's DESK --- the Vandy solution [Dooley] You know, it's really as tough or tougher to get into UF as Vandy. Vanderbilt's Medical school might be a little more difficult than Florida's. Of course, here in Nash Vegas that's their excuse EVERY time they get the hell beat out of them. Even if you assume Vandy is tougher than UF, consider North Carolina, Notre Dame, Stanford and Duke. All have high standards and all have multiple Nat'l Championships. Difference? As Dooley says, they care about sports, Vandy doesn't. Let's dump 'em! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net Sender: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:48:11 -0500 To: GATORNEWSgatorn...@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- DOOLEY's DESK --- the Vandy solution [Dooley] http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/ July 27th, 2010 01:36pm http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/ the Vandy solution by http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/author/dooley/ Pat Dooley (Gainesville SUN) Two of the biggest names in southern journalism this week have made a statement I made back in 1998. Both Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel and Paul Finebaum of the Finebaum Network have written than it's time for Vanderbilt to be kicked out of the SEC. Back in '98 as Florida was blowing out the Commodores, I sat on the 50-yard line at Dudley Field in Nashville and wrote a similar column. Not in the press box but in the stands. There was nobody within 15 yards of me. But I also understand that when we write these kinds of columns it validates the opinions that people outside the South have, that we're pulling up our jean-shorts by our rope belts and saying, We don't need any of that book learnin' in this conference. Vandy adds a lot to the league in several sports. You also have to realize that for athletic directors in this league, Vandy is a lot better than Arkansas. Nashville is not only a lot easier to get to, it's a lot more fun when you get there. However, Vanderbilt doesn't feel like an SEC school, has rotten facilities and never seems to take football seriously. I'm not pushing for their ouster. Instead, I asking the other 11 schools in the league to demand more of Vandy. They should tell the Commodores heirarchy that its next coach has to make a minimum of 2 million a year. Make Vanderbilt hire someone who players will want to play for. And force the Conmmodores to put some of that money that Alabama and Florida earn for them into their facility. Vandy isn't that much harder than Florida or Georgia to get into to. That's not the problem. The problem is nobody wants to go there. If Vandy is going to remain a viable member of this league, it has to spend some money to make it seem like an SEC team instead of the Kansas City Royals. Otherwise, boot 'em. http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/feed/ Comments 3 Comments 1. July 27th, 2010 4:53 pm http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2229 Dude, unless you are talking about student athletes you are wrong about the entrance requirements for Vandy vs. Florida. Vanderbilt is much more difficult to get into. Your statement is akin to saying that Yale is not much more difficult to get accepted to than Vanderbilt. BTW, I'm a gator grad, so I don't have an axe to grind. by Crusher 2. July 27th, 2010 5:31 pm http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2230 My daughter was provisionally accepted to both Harvard and UF. The academic standards weren't that far apart. The point is not that the SEC doesn't have some -ahem-less rigorous academies of higher learning, but that if Florida and Georgia can compete athletically AND academically, then what exactly is Vandy's
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Aloha Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Herald courtesy of Junogator
I think the 'journalists' from south Florida have been talking to Woody. Seriously, he is going to monitor the tone of voice??? Just how is he going to do that and what training or expertise does he have to provide such an incredible analysis? And, regardless (or is that irregardless) :) no matter what he says, it's probably not true. Jeesh! This whole fiasco might make Urban want to reopen practice. With everyone not knowing every detail of what is happening, rumors spread based on sperious information. If practice had been open, this was maybe a one day story. It will be interesting to hear how he explains it - if he explains it - but it will be equally interesting to monitor his tone of voice and whether he stays calm. I highly doubt Meyer will launch another tirade like he did when he confronted a reporter in spring. Most likely, he will say this is an in-house matter. If asked directly about the two players threatening to transfer, expect him to emphatically shoot it down (that doesn't mean it's not true, though). Ken K MNGator _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juno Gator Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:07 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Aloha Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Herald courtesy of Junogator 4. Both players were at Wednesday's practice. Multiple reporters who hung around outside the facility were firsthand witnesses to this. Meyer mostly has been answering questions about injuries, the depth chart and his own health during August. This will be his first big controversy since his last big controversy (resigning and un-resigning in a 24-hour period in December). It will be interesting to hear how he explains it - if he explains it - but it will be equally interesting to monitor his tone of voice and whether he stays calm. I highly doubt Meyer will launch another tirade like he did when he confronted a reporter in spring. Most likely, he will say this is an in-house matter. If asked directly about the two players threatening to transfer, expect him to emphatically shoot it down (that doesn't mean it's not true, though). Both of these players, Powell at defensive end and Easley at defensive tackle - got good reviews from the coaching staff during training camp and are expected to be in the regular rotation of defensive linemen this season. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Nike's UF uniform to debut at Georgia game --- 9/1 10:30 --- [Gatorsports]
Although the picture quality looks like is was created by a Flintstones camera, these look much better than last years! Looks like the helmet has scales, cool! _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:20 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Nike's UF uniform to debut at Georgia game --- 9/1 10:30 --- [Gatorsports] Nike's UF uniform to debut at Georgia game http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100901Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100909976Ref=ARProfile=1136MaxW=600border=0 A screen capture from Nike's broadcast of the release of the Pro Combat uniforms for the 2010 college football season. (Nike/UStream) Special to Gainesville SUN Gatorsports Published: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. Last Modified: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. NEW YORK - Nike released a Gator-themed Pro Combat football uniform that will be worn at the game against the Georgia Bulldogs on October 30. Florida is one of the 10 college football programs that have been selected to wear the uniquely designed Nike uniforms this fall. The Nike uniform is engineered to provide superior protection and durability, while utilizing advanced fabrics and tooling that reduce weight. Former UF standout running back Errict Rhett represented the Gators at the event. http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1Site=GSDate=20100 901Category=MULTIMEDIA0302ArtNo=90100Ref=PHItem=1Maxw=603MaxH=452 q=50 http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1Site=GSDate=20100 901Category=MULTIMEDIA0302ArtNo=90100Ref=PHProfile=1136Item=2Maxw= 603MaxH=452q=50 http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1Site=GSDate=20100 901Category=MULTIMEDIA0302ArtNo=90100Ref=PHProfile=1136Item=3Maxw= 603MaxH=452q=50 http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1Site=GSDate=20100 901Category=MULTIMEDIA0302ArtNo=90100Ref=PHProfile=1136Item=5Maxw= 603MaxH=452q=50 http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1Site=GSDate=20100 901Category=MULTIMEDIA0302ArtNo=90100Ref=PHProfile=1136Item=9Maxw= 603MaxH=452q=50 -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Herald courtesy of Junogator
Really, I hadn't noticed. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juno Gator Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:19 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Herald courtesy of Junogator - C Mike Pouncey had several bad snaps ... , three of which resulted in fumbles and lost yardage. Brantley said in August and again in the post-game press conference there had been no problems with snap exchange. Meyer said otherwise. Been a little bit more of a problem than it's been for a while, he said. Meyer saw bad snaps in the pre-season and now in a real game, and admitted it might deter Florida from operating out of the shotgun as often. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] Mike Pouncey looking for a good night's sleep
They could be the Golden Bulls, about as much as our offensive coordinator is a guy named Adagio, or Mike Pouncey's brother is Maurice. Nice editing work. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:12 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] Mike Pouncey looking for a good night's sleep So, this is where Franz Beard ended up? Where is he? Can't tell from the article. And, are they the Golden Bulls? I thought just the Bulls. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu Sender: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:43:34 -0400 To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Mike Pouncey looking for a good night's sleep Mike Pouncey looking for a good night's sleep Franz Beard Senior Writer 2 hours ago . http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fflorida.247sports.com%2FA rticle%2FMike-Pouncey-looking-for-a-good-nights-sleep-370t=Mike%20Pouncey%2 0looking%20for%20a%20good%20night's%20sleepsrc=sp Share1 . . http://florida.247sports.com/Article/Mike-Pouncey-looking-for-a-good-nights -sleep-370#comments Comments0 . http://florida.247sports.com/Article/Mike-Pouncey-looking-for-a-good-nights -sleep-370#comments Add a comment http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey needs for Saturday to get here quickly. After a nightmare game against Miami (OH) last weekend that left him feeling truly embarrassed and the subject of national ridicule, he needs to play well against USF when the Golden Bulls come to town (12:21 p.m.; Ben Hill Griffin Stadium; SEC Network). He needs to redeem himself. Then and only then will he get a good night's rest. Several bad snaps by Pouncey set the tone for an effort so uninspiring that the Florida Gators fell from third in the coaches poll to sixth in the most recent rankings. Although the Gators finished off Miami to the tune of 34-12, their miserable offensive output (212 total yards), the lingering memory of Florida's opening game win of the 2010 season is a mistake-filled effort for which http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey has asked to shoulder all the blame. He feels his poor effort reflected poorly on his teammates and that is a burden that he's been carrying for the past three days. I'm the leader of the offense and when the leader is messing it up, it makes everybody look bad, Pouncey said early Tuesday afternoon. It's just not expected out of me. I've been busting my tail. I haven't been able to sleep all week ever since the game, trying to get it right and it's going to be right this weekend. If there is a word that probably best describes Mike, the half of the Pouncey twins who stayed for his senior year (Maurice left early, was selected by Pittsburgh in the first round of the NFL Draft and earned the starting center job for the Steelers over veteran Justin Hart wig) it is pride. He's proud to be a Gator and proud to be the team leader. He expects to play well every time out. A second-team All-American at right guard last year, Mike came back to play center, the position where Maurice earned the Remington Award as the nation's best last year. When you've invested so much into a new position and earning a chance to better yourself in the next NFL Draft --- as a guard Mike would project late second or early third round at best but as a center late first or early second --- a game like the one http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey had Saturday is the worst possible nightmare. He's been called out on ESPN by Mark May and is the star of a bloopers compilation on You Tube. The snap issues were brand new for Mike and nothing he had experienced before either in practice or in games. He was the backup center last year and even played half of the Sugar Bowl victory over Cincinnati at center without a single snap incident. When his third snap of the game went bouncing past quarterback Johnny Brantley it was a surprise, but he didn't think it would happen again. It did. He bounced two more past Brantley during the game and was off target on at least seven other snaps. After the game, http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey stood before the media and accepted the blame for the way the entire team played, knowing as he spoke that he was going to have to atone for his bad game and atonement started with figuring out what went wrong, then doing something about it. I grew up where if you're doing something wrong you change it, Mike said. I was doing something wrong so I don't want to stay the same. If I stay the same we'll be back in here asking about the same thing [Saturday]. There are theories about what went wrong --- nerves, not locking his wrist, too anxious to block instead of first focusing on getting the snap
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Two UF students charged with auto burglary --- 9/8 14:56 --- [Voyles]
Uh, Mom, Dad, can you send me some money? What for? Uh well...the authorities kind of want me to post bail... Nice phone call to have to make. 3 years of college down the drain. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Two UF students charged with auto burglary --- 9/8 14:56 --- [Voyles] Two UF students charged with auto burglary By mailto:voyl...@gvillesun.com Karen Voyles Gainesville SUN Staff writer Published: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 2:56 p.m. Last Modified: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 2:56 p.m. Two University of Florida's undergraduates have a seldom-used excuse for cutting classes this week. They are in jail, suspected of stealing from other undergraduates. http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100908Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100909533Ref=ARProfile=1105MaxW=250border=0 http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100908/ARTICLES/100909533/1105/NEWS?Ti tle=Two-UF-students-charged-with-auto-burglary## Click to enlarge Marc Tyler Barnett (Alachua County Jail) http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100908Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100909533Ref=V1Profile=1105MaxW=250border=0 http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100908/ARTICLES/100909533/1105/NEWS?Ti tle=Two-UF-students-charged-with-auto-burglary## Click to enlarge Steven Andrew Rossmeissi (Alachua County Jail) Juniors Marc Tyler Barnett, 20, of 725 N.W. 13th St., and Steven Andrew Rossmeissi, 20, of 1517 N.W. 57th Ave., were arrested by Gainesville police Tuesday on charges of auto burglary. Officer Edward Ratliff said he was wearing plain clothes and driving an unmarked vehicle while patrolling near the Parkside 1 apartments at 951 S.W. 11th St. Ratliff spotted Barnett and Rossmeissi trying to open the door of a car and then get into another vehicle and drive away. They were pulled over within a few blocks. Inside the back seat of the car, police said they found a laptop computer, two GPS units and other portable electronic items. Following the arrests, police said Barnett and Rossmeissi admitted getting one of the GPS units from an unlocked car and trying to enter 20 to 30 vehicles by pulling on door handles to look for unlocked vehicles. Barnett and Rossmeissi were being held at the Alachua County jail on Wednesday. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Two UF students charged with autoburglary --- 9/8 14:56 --- [Voyles]
He shoots, he scores! Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:01 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Two UF students charged with autoburglary --- 9/8 14:56 --- [Voyles] Try Auburn. --- On Thu, 9/9/10, oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com wrote: I wondered what happened to my laptop. Where would one go to claim it? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game
Mighty Gator - 49 Golden Bull - 6 Ken Kirkley 651-249-5197 k...@kirkley.net _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:19 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Saturday's game Anyone care to pick an outcome??? I'll say Florida 34---USF 17 Anything from the 2daves regarding last weekend and this one upcoming? Jay P. Cicone | Investment Consultant Raymond James Financial Services, Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC 1608 Metropolitan Circle, Suite A | Tallahassee, FL 32308 (850) 508-6452 Cell . (850) 386-1939 Office (850) 298-4242 Fax . (800) 775-1114 Toll-free mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com jay.cic...@raymondjames.com http://www.raymondjames.com www.raymondjames.com Raymond James Financial Services does not accept orders and/or instructions regarding your account by e-mail, voice mail, fax or any alternate method. Transactional details do not supersede normal trade confirmations or statements. E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure or confidential. Raymond James Financial Services reserves the right to monitor all e-mail. Any information provided in this e-mail has been prepared from sources believed to be reliable, but is not guaranteed by Raymond James Financial Services and is not a complete summary or statement of all available data necessary for making an investment decision. Any information provided is for informational purposes only and does not constitute a recommendation. Raymond James Financial Services and its employees may own options, rights or warrants to purchase any of the securities mentioned in e-mail. This e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your computer. If you would like to execute a trade or if you have time-sensitive information for me, please call my office at (850) 386-1939 or (800) 775-1114. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game
He better watch out, or I will sic Corrine on him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:31 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game Moses is watching you, Ken. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:22 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game Mighty Gator - 49 Golden Bull - 6 Ken Kirkley 651-249-5197 k...@kirkley.net _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:19 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Saturday's game Anyone care to pick an outcome??? I'll say Florida 34---USF 17 Anything from the 2daves regarding last weekend and this one upcoming? Jay P. Cicone | Investment Consultant Raymond James Financial Services, Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC 1608 Metropolitan Circle, Suite A | Tallahassee, FL 32308 (850) 508-6452 Cell . (850) 386-1939 Office (850) 298-4242 Fax . (800) 775-1114 Toll-free mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com jay.cic...@raymondjames.com http://www.raymondjames.com www.raymondjames.com Raymond James Financial Services does not accept orders and/or instructions regarding your account by e-mail, voice mail, fax or any alternate method. Transactional details do not supersede normal trade confirmations or statements. E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure or confidential. Raymond James Financial Services reserves the right to monitor all e-mail. Any information provided in this e-mail has been prepared from sources believed to be reliable, but is not guaranteed by Raymond James Financial Services and is not a complete summary or statement of all available data necessary for making an investment decision. Any information provided is for informational purposes only and does not constitute a recommendation. Raymond James Financial Services and its employees may own options, rights or warrants to purchase any of the securities mentioned in e-mail. This e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from your computer. If you would like to execute a trade or if you have time-sensitive information for me, please call my office at (850) 386-1939 or (800) 775-1114. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] tonight
If you lived in Minnesota, you would know there is nothing else happening in the entire world tonight other than the Vikings playing the Saints. I think by gubenatorial decree they have mandated all television stations not showing the game to play a non-stop loop of the Vikings fight song. I hate the NFL. But then again, how stupid to have the Aub-MS St. game on the same night as NFL opening night? And having teams from the same region play in both games. It will be interesting to see the ratings, does college or NFL win in Mississippi? KenK MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:24 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] tonight Auburn vs. Missy Statethis should be a good'n. I'm pulling for the other orange and blue. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them...
Oh, it's funny! Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:52 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them... Is that supposed to be funny? Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: BertThePiggieMan kickinfamil...@gmail.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:47:34 To: GatorTalkgatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them... Four men shared a cab from the airport into the city. One came from Idaho, one from Iowa, one from Florida, and the last from New York. After a few miles, the man from Idaho opened his suitcase, pulled out some potatoes, and threw them out the window. The cab driver asked, What are you doing? The man from Idaho said, We have so many potatoes in Idaho that whenever one of us leaves the state, we just throw them away because we're sick of looking at them. A few miles later, the passenger from Iowa began pulling ears of corn from his bag and throwing them out the window. The cabbie asked, What are you doing that for? Man, we have so much corn in Iowa that we have to get rid of it all because we're sick of looking at it! A few miles later, the man from Florida opened the car door . . . and pushed the New Yorker out. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] Ruh Roh
http://circuit8.org/cgi-bin/jaildetail.cgi?bookno=ASO10JBN010417 Ken K MNGator -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh
Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below. If I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do. http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# 3 up, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# 8 down http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775 250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling me, It's Time to Die! Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh
It may be a popular phrase, but in the context of his actions last night I don't think he meant his batteries were dead. We can downplay this all we want but bottom line this is a serious issue. I agree that this will probably be plead down or dropped completely, but that doesn't change the fact that he did it. It also doesn't help the image of UF when, once again, we are in the ESPN ticker with negative news. We can no longer make fun of other schools transgressions as long as this stuff keeps happening. Yes, we deal with it differently in most cases, but obviously these kids aren't getting the message. Urban has always had a strong stance on violence against women, it will be interesting to see how he deals with Chris as he is one of his favorites. I am not advocating he be kicked off the team or out of school (although that may be school policy), rather he needs to have a multi-game suspension and enter some type of education/treatment program to ensure this doesn't happen again. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:54 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Ken, I looked at your link and was surprised it seems to be a popular phrase these days? I have a 17 year old daughter and I would do anything to protect her. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below. If I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do. http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 3 up, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 8 down http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775 250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling me, It's Time to Die! Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh
I am reminded of the Lacrosse player at University of Virginia that killed his girlfriend after an on and off relationship. I think Florida might have no other options due to the liability. Although I would hope there is an avenue to get him appropriate treatment and maintain the stability that he has in the University community. That would give him the best hope for long-term success. Wasn't Rainey the one who basically lived with the Pouncey's because he didn't have a home? _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:36 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh If he does not withdraw, the president of the university has no choice but to expel him. The university is now on notice that he has a serious mental issue that could result in serious harm or death. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:08 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh It may be a popular phrase, but in the context of his actions last night I don't think he meant his batteries were dead. We can downplay this all we want but bottom line this is a serious issue. I agree that this will probably be plead down or dropped completely, but that doesn't change the fact that he did it. It also doesn't help the image of UF when, once again, we are in the ESPN ticker with negative news. We can no longer make fun of other schools transgressions as long as this stuff keeps happening. Yes, we deal with it differently in most cases, but obviously these kids aren't getting the message. Urban has always had a strong stance on violence against women, it will be interesting to see how he deals with Chris as he is one of his favorites. I am not advocating he be kicked off the team or out of school (although that may be school policy), rather he needs to have a multi-game suspension and enter some type of education/treatment program to ensure this doesn't happen again. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:54 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Ken, I looked at your link and was surprised it seems to be a popular phrase these days? I have a 17 year old daughter and I would do anything to protect her. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below. If I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do. http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 3 up, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 8 down http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775 250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling me, It's Time to Die! Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball
[gatortalk] Fearless Prediction
UF 42 UT 3 This is the game where we see Brantley show his true potential and Burton might even get in the act with a jump pass for a TD! Ken K MNGator -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses
Oh come on now, you are offended by someone saying entitlement Gator?? I think it was incredibly offensive for Scott to put words in my mouth and say everyone on the list feels the way he does. I also believe many Gator fans feel entitled. My goodness, we went into that game expecting it to be close and while we made it closer than it should have been, we still won an away SEC game by 14 points! And we suck... While this team and coaches have a ways to go to be operating at peak efficiency, they are doing quite well given all the mistakes that are being made. I have watched a lot of football these past 3 weeks and there isn't a team out there that we can't beat. Of course, there are many teams that we could lose to as well. This team reminds me of Alabama last year. They struggled early in games against inferior opponents, but eventually put it altogether to finish the season incredibly strong. We have that same opportunity, but the play calling does need to improve and the players need to stop making mistakes. But, even if we make no improvement, I only see one sure loss and that is at Bama. USC will be tough, but I think we have the run defense to stop Lattimore and Garcia won't beat us in the air. LSU? Nope, too inconsistent. Ugh? Nope, the are done. KY, Vandy, MS State? Nope. F$U, not on your life. We are a very good football team that everyone thinks is a finesse team when we are not. We do need to find an identity on offense, the dive play was great to set up a Tebow run, but is ineffective to set up a Brantley option pitch. At this point in the young season, there are only 33 undefeated teams and 80 have already lost at least once. If we were VaTech or Ole Miss, then we would have something to complain about! Stay strong, remember in all kinds of weather, and right now the weather is pretty good at 3-0. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Hmm... entitlement Gator fans is awfully strong comment when you dont really know that person. Id be careful using that reference again in the future. And this will be my last reply on this list. On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:10 PM, ala...@gatorzone.com wrote: There is a noticable difference in attitude between us older generation Gators who can appreciate the development of a football team over a season or two and the entitlement Gator fans that are convinced that something has been stolen from them if the Gators don't blow out every opponent. It is sad to me that so many Gator fans can't enjoy everything that makes up a college football season because their team can't meet their unrealistic standards. Go Gators...in all kinds of weather. Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=165446#ixzz0zzpk oeqm - Original Message - From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Atta girl, Cee. My feelings exactly, although more articulate. :) Randy -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:03 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses You can't speak for everyone on the list, Scott. I'm not particularly disappointed in this team. It's about what I was expecting after the high-flying we've done over the past few years. I'm willing to be satisfied with their performance so far because my expectations were realistic, IMO. Cee - Original Message - From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Agreed. And there is not a single person on this list who is not a little disappointed in this team so far. We are lucky to be undefeated. 'Bama is going to kick our a$$es Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote: Its not the win we suffer from.. its their lack of making plays we suffer from. There isnt one person on this list who didnt think we shouldnt have been ahead the entire game. On Sep 18, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote: No one suffers a win like Florida Gator fans... - Original Message - From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Neither can Demps. 26 for 73 yards Let's keep running him between the tackles... What you got for that? lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: ...And don't forget; Brantley
RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses
Uhm, and I quote: Agreed. And there is not a single person on this list who is not a little disappointed in this team so far. We are lucky to be undefeated. 'Bama is going to kick our a$$es I am not disappointed in this 3-0 team. I would like to see improvement, yes. But if we win every game by fumbling and bumbling, I will be okay with that too. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:28 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses I put words in whose mouth? I speak for myself... I am disgusted by underachieving. I don't accept it from my the flag football team or basketball team that I coach. If we are over expecting, you can only blame our coaching staff for their closed practice policy where all we here are suppositions and glory storied about how great we are... Where is the truth? Are we this bad, underachieving, or just not good? Did I put those words in your mouth too? Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: Oh come on now, you are offended by someone saying entitlement Gator?? I think it was incredibly offensive for Scott to put words in my mouth and say everyone on the list feels the way he does. I also believe many Gator fans feel entitled. My goodness, we went into that game expecting it to be close and while we made it closer than it should have been, we still won an away SEC game by 14 points! And we suck... While this team and coaches have a ways to go to be operating at peak efficiency, they are doing quite well given all the mistakes that are being made. I have watched a lot of football these past 3 weeks and there isn't a team out there that we can't beat. Of course, there are many teams that we could lose to as well. This team reminds me of Alabama last year. They struggled early in games against inferior opponents, but eventually put it altogether to finish the season incredibly strong. We have that same opportunity, but the play calling does need to improve and the players need to stop making mistakes. But, even if we make no improvement, I only see one sure loss and that is at Bama. USC will be tough, but I think we have the run defense to stop Lattimore and Garcia won't beat us in the air. LSU? Nope, too inconsistent. Ugh? Nope, the are done. KY, Vandy, MS State? Nope. F$U, not on your life. We are a very good football team that everyone thinks is a finesse team when we are not. We do need to find an identity on offense, the dive play was great to set up a Tebow run, but is ineffective to set up a Brantley option pitch. At this point in the young season, there are only 33 undefeated teams and 80 have already lost at least once. If we were VaTech or Ole Miss, then we would have something to complain about! Stay strong, remember in all kinds of weather, and right now the weather is pretty good at 3-0. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Hmm... entitlement Gator fans is awfully strong comment when you dont really know that person. Id be careful using that reference again in the future. And this will be my last reply on this list. On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:10 PM, ala...@gatorzone.com wrote: There is a noticable difference in attitude between us older generation Gators who can appreciate the development of a football team over a season or two and the entitlement Gator fans that are convinced that something has been stolen from them if the Gators don't blow out every opponent. It is sad to me that so many Gator fans can't enjoy everything that makes up a college football season because their team can't meet their unrealistic standards. Go Gators...in all kinds of weather. Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=165446#ixzz0zzp k oeqm - Original Message - From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses Atta girl, Cee. My feelings exactly, although more articulate. :) Randy -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:03 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses You can't speak for everyone on the list, Scott. I'm not particularly disappointed in this team. It's about what I was expecting after the high-flying we've done over the past few years. I'm willing to be satisfied with their performance so far because my expectations were
[gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions
Okay, I don't profess to be a football expert, but I do think I know little about the game. Everything below is my opinion only and no matter how I state anything, nothing is fact, my opinion only! The Gators are not as bad as they have looked at times and I don't think we have seen them as good as they can be either. There have been several glaring errors - poor snaps, penalties, blown coverages. And some supposed errors - wrong people on the field, bad play calls, coaches not seeing the fake FG and calling TO. The problem with evaluating this team for me, is that I only get to watch on TV, so I don't get to see the whole field and make my own determination if the play calling is effective and/or if the QB read was correct on the play. Having said that, here is what I have seen: - Watching on TV which typically shows 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage on the main shot, you will usually only see 7 or 8 defensive players. That means that the safeties at least are playing very deep and keeping everything in front of them, the classic Tampa2 defense. Contrary to what the spread offense implies, Urban is a very conservative coach, if the D is keeping you from the deep ball, the reads go to the short crossing routes where our speedy WRs go against LBs. This is not flashy and doesn't result in 2 minute scoring drives, but it is taking what the defense is giving us. The thing I can't see on TV is are our WRs getting any separation when they are running off the coverage? The alternative is to go the Arkansas route, where the offense is designed to go deep and will try that no matter what, the result is interceptions when it doesn't work. - The dive play. This is really part of the triple option and the reason it goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above. If the D plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play. When this happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain. So, we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing routes and wide runs work better. The biggest issue with this team however is the intangibles. Identity and team chemistry, this team is lacking. As far as team chemistry I can only guess at the dynamics, but given some of the quoted chatter and rumors that were swirling, I think there were/are some, dare I say it... entitlement players on the team. Guys that thought just because I am here, I should play. this goes for both the upperclassmen and freshman. We have had 5 years of top notch recruiting classes and there are a lot of guys who have paid their dues and expect to play and there are a lot of newbies that are great and expect to play. When you have a guy like Pouncey talking smack before the season and then going out and having the worst performance by a Center I have ever seen, it doesn't help matters. The identity issue is related to the above, but has different issues on offense and defense. On offense, we started out trying to run the same spread we ran for the past 3 years, that won't work because we don't have #15. So the coaches have been trying to figure out what we are good at and create this hybrid spread-pro set offense. If you are a young player on the team and you are used to this fast paced high scoring machine, it has to affect your psyche. It appears we are finally getting into some type of rythym, but is still seems choppy. Q1 against UK was great, Q2 back to the basics, Q3 much better. We need to find the consistent play and play calling. On defense the problem is too many good players, a nice problem to have. We have so many guys with roughly the same level of experience, we keep rotating them in and out, but all it takes is for one of them to be playing on the wrong play that he doesn't know how to cover or against a mismatch WR. Cody Riggs, is an awesome special teams player, but got abused in the KY game. Last, the Bama game worries me, but all big games make me feel this way. I have watched Bama play 3 times this year, and while they may have won more impressively, they aren't as great as everyone is making them out to be. They make mistakes and had to come back from a double digit deficit against Arky and had to rely on several incredible Arky mistakes to win. I think we can score on Bama, the question is can we stop them from scoring. Ingram and Richardson are big, fast bruising backs, they can't be arm tackled and that is a weakness of our team in my opinion. We seem to have a hard time wrapping up players and taking them down, they always seem to get that extra 2 or 3 yards after contact. Add in the mix Julio at WR and we have another big guy to take down. I think this will be relatively high scoring for what are
[gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions
Okay, I don't profess to be a football expert, but I do think I know little about the game. Everything below is my opinion only and no matter how I state anything, nothing is fact, my opinion only! The Gators are not as bad as they have looked at times and I don't think we have seen them as good as they can be either. There have been several glaring errors - poor snaps, penalties, blown coverages. And some supposed errors - wrong people on the field, bad play calls, coaches not seeing the fake FG and calling TO. The problem with evaluating this team for me, is that I only get to watch on TV, so I don't get to see the whole field and make my own determination if the play calling is effective and/or if the QB read was correct on the play. Having said that, here is what I have seen: - Watching on TV which typically shows 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage on the main shot, you will usually only see 7 or 8 defensive players. That means that the safeties at least are playing very deep and keeping everything in front of them, the classic Tampa2 defense. Contrary to what the spread offense implies, Urban is a very conservative coach, if the D is keeping you from the deep ball, the reads go to the short crossing routes where our speedy WRs go against LBs. This is not flashy and doesn't result in 2 minute scoring drives, but it is taking what the defense is giving us. The thing I can't see on TV is are our WRs getting any separation when they are running off the coverage? The alternative is to go the Arkansas route, where the offense is designed to go deep and will try that no matter what, the result is interceptions when it doesn't work. - The dive play. This is really part of the triple option and the reason it goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above. If the D plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play. When this happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain. So, we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing routes and wide runs work better. The biggest issue with this team however is the intangibles. Identity and team chemistry, this team is lacking. As far as team chemistry I can only guess at the dynamics, but given some of the quoted chatter and rumors that were swirling, I think there were/are some, dare I say it... entitlement players on the team. Guys that thought just because I am here, I should play. this goes for both the upperclassmen and freshman. We have had 5 years of top notch recruiting classes and there are a lot of guys who have paid their dues and expect to play and there are a lot of newbies that are great and expect to play. When you have a guy like Pouncey talking smack before the season and then going out and having the worst performance by a Center I have ever seen, it doesn't help matters. The identity issue is related to the above, but has different issues on offense and defense. On offense, we started out trying to run the same spread we ran for the past 3 years, that won't work because we don't have #15. So the coaches have been trying to figure out what we are good at and create this hybrid spread-pro set offense. If you are a young player on the team and you are used to this fast paced high scoring machine, it has to affect your psyche. It appears we are finally getting into some type of rythym, but is still seems choppy. Q1 against UK was great, Q2 back to the basics, Q3 much better. We need to find the consistent play and play calling. On defense the problem is too many good players, a nice problem to have. We have so many guys with roughly the same level of experience, we keep rotating them in and out, but all it takes is for one of them to be playing on the wrong play that he doesn't know how to cover or against a mismatch WR. Cody Riggs, is an awesome special teams player, but got abused in the KY game. Last, the Bama game worries me, but all big games make me feel this way. I have watched Bama play 3 times this year, and while they may have won more impressively, they aren't as great as everyone is making them out to be. They make mistakes and had to come back from a double digit deficit against Arky and had to rely on several incredible Arky mistakes to win. I think we can score on Bama, the question is can we stop them from scoring. Ingram and Richardson are big, fast bruising backs, they can't be arm tackled and that is a weakness of our team in my opinion. We seem to have a hard time wrapping up players and taking them down, they always seem to get that extra 2 or 3 yards after contact. Add in the mix Julio at WR and we have another big guy to take down. I think this will be relatively high scoring for what are
RE: [gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions
There are other reasons you run that play - it helps identify defensive assignments - it is a part of the triple option (dive, QB keeps, pitch) It is up to the QB to read the play and determine if he is going to give it. Without a true option QB though you almost need to make up your mind before you read the play, otherwise by the time you pull it out to run the QB, he better be fast, big or both. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:42 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions Ken- Very interesting comments. I especially appreciate the item below. It is reassuring to know that there is a method in their madness. Helen - The dive play. This is really part of the triple option and the reason it goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above. If the D plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play. When this happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain. So, we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing routes and wide runs work better. -- Helen Huntley (727) 823-3801 www.helenhuntley.com -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form
Please make it stop!!! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:13 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Pan Flute - Zamfir From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Peter Pan - peanut butter Pan - flute This is a dumber thread than arguing over how good our team isn't. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain _ From: Badrish dbadr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:46:42 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Peter Pan - Fantasy Pan Pizza - Slurrp! On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Major Wright - football. Major Parker - basketball Parker Brothers - Monopoly Peter Parker - Batman I like this game! -Zeb Dick Sargent - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched Dick York - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched Sergeant York - most decorated soldier of World War I -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form
Jay, Take your right hand and make a fist. Extend your thumb like you are hitchhiking. Move thumb towards eye at very fast speed. Don't stop motion until thumb contacts eyeball. Repeat. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:23 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Slim Jim - Slim Whitman Whitman Sampler - Boxcar Willie From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:18 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Please make it stop!!! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:13 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Pan Flute - Zamfir From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Peter Pan - peanut butter Pan - flute This is a dumber thread than arguing over how good our team isn't. A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain _ From: Badrish dbadr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:46:42 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form Peter Pan - Fantasy Pan Pizza - Slurrp! On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Major Wright - football. Major Parker - basketball Parker Brothers - Monopoly Peter Parker - Batman I like this game! -Zeb Dick Sargent - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched Dick York - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched Sergeant York - most decorated soldier of World War I -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Brantley
Reputable journalist Tweets from practice, hmmm, reporters aren't allowed at practice, so that would mean someone on the team is tweeting about this. Highly unlikely. Didn't we also hear last week that McElroy was hurt with a bad thigh bruise and was limited in practice all week? I am not worried, we can beat LSU without Brantley, but I think we will have him and handle the hat easily. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:15 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Brantley Just heard this from a reputable journalist friend of mine... Seeing some Tweets that Brantley aint feelin so hot in practice.. he's participating and throwing.. but has been limited. As Scooby says, Ruh roh! -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] And here we go again...
All along I have been defending this team, figuring they just needed to jell and by this point in the season we would be cruising. Even after last week, I thought it was our mistakes that Bama took advantage of to win. But after this week I am moving closer to Scott's position. The coaching is abhorent, the players intensity is terrible and we are still making too many mistakes. I am tired of Adazzio telling us this is one of the best o lines in the country. It isn't even close, in fact there are probably 10 DII lines better. We can't pass protect, we can't open holes for runs, but we can pull our center just like a guard for whatever good that does us. This season is not over, we still control our destiny as far as the SEC goes, but we need to fix lots of things now. I am not sure it isn't a good idea for Urban to take over play calling responsibility, because we are way too predictable. As far as our D goes, our sole mission on that last drive had to be keep everything in front of you. Horrible. Congrats to LSU, they came in and played their best game of the year. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:42 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting! What good does that do for winning a game or fixing our obvious problems? Can you contribute to the playcalling or the defensive play with those years of experience? Congratulations Leon, you are an old Gator fan. That and 99 cents will get you coffee at McDonald's. Want a cookie with that? Oh wait, I've only been a gator fan for 30+ plus years... I guess you are better... but then I can get a coffee for 99 cents too. What is your point?!? Are you claiming to be more of a Gator? Really? Really...? Please... You are no better. We are all Gators. We see things differently, some settle for less, some expect more. No reason to look down on others because you have been around longer. You think have some special entitlement or is that just reserved for newer gators? Would we not welcome a recent graduate here??? Do we even have any??? Or have we run them off with comments like yours? 60 year fan? Grow up. lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've been a full time Gator fan for over 60 years. Try some of that. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:07:59 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting! really? Really?!? I want some of whatever Leon is on lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: We're going to win this game. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:20:04 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting! Ok... D got a stop... Can this horrible thing we call an offense do anything?  From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 10:13:42 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting! The D in particular is going to have to step it up and get a stop! Go Gators! Shane FordSent from my iPhone Go Gators! On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com wrote: Once again, special teams can save this team... now can our O or D do SOMETHING to try to win?!?!!? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football
[gatortalk] Talk about the fake FG
I am never one to complain about the refs, as I believe they are human (at least most except the Childress crew) and are apt to err from time to time. If you play well, generally any officiating mistakes don't come into play. I have seen a lot of people complaining about the fake FG, there are several issues with the call: - since the holders knee was on the ground and no kicker behind him, was he down? - if it was a backwards pass and it hit the ground, why was the kicker able to advance the fumble on 4th down? - was it a forward pass that hit the ground? As to the holders knee on the ground, that is legal. The rule states that it is okay if you are simulating a kick. While you could interpret that has a kicker must be there, it is accepted as once you line up and snap the ball with the kicker in position, that satisfies the simulating a kick requirement. The second point, a backwards pass is different than a fumble. While a fumble can only be advanced by the fumbler on 4th down, a backwards pass is deemed a loose ball and can be picked up by anyone on the offense. Was it a forward pass? This one is close and is probably the best place for Gator fans to argue. The rules state that when in doubt, it is a forward pass. Here is the rule: Forward and Backward Pass ARTICLE 2. a. A forward pass is determined by the point where the ball first strikes the ground, a player, an official or anything beyond the spot of the pass. All other passes are backward passes. When in question, it is a forward pass rather than a backward pass when thrown in or behind the neutral zone. I don't think you can look at the replay and tell definitively, you would have needed a camera exactly along the line of the pass to determine. You can google parallax error to figue out why the camera angle we saw wouldn't necessarily be accurate. It does look like it was forward slightly and the ref should have ruled so initially, when he didn't there wasn't enough video evidence to overturn. Unfortunately, this call didn't go our way. This same play was used against us two years ago and we should have been in FG safe, especially on a 54 yard kick, especially on the edges. A block of a kick that long will come in the middle, the kick will come out low and quick. The guys on the edge had to hold contain, they weren't going to block the kick. I blame this on the coaches, just like Kirby Smart was jumping up and down for the jump pass last week, I was yelling at the TV to watch the biggest gambler in football and the fake. Nobody listened... Ken K MNGator -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] What bugs me
To be fair, they did ge a first down at the 3 and scored on 3rd down with 6 seconds left. If they had missed that play, they still had one more down to go. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:37 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] What bugs me Is not the forward/backwards pass issue. I am somewhat bothered that we didn't see the play coming. We did in our living room. The distance was longer than the kicker had ever completed in his career, and - even if successful - would merely have given LSU overtime on the road against a loud raucous crowd. It seemed obvious that Mile would try to win the game in regulation. What bothers me is that, when the first down as picked up, LSU players were running to the line to spike the ball on 1st down to stop the clock. I think that LSU was out of time outs at that point, having used its last to set up the fake previously. Had normal football been played, 6 or so seconds would have run off the clock and LSU would have spiked the ball on first down; leaving it three tries (and not a lot of time) at the end zone. There is also the outside change of a penalty on the offense for not being set, improper alignment, too many players on the field, as often happens when one tries to run to the line of scrimmage to spike the ball and stop the clock. Instead, the official review acted as a free LSU timeout, giving it a chance to freely substitute and be set when the clock started. More importantly, LSU no longer had to waste first down on the spike - giving it 4 shots at the end zone instead of 3. LSU scored on its fourth try; a try it would not have had but for the official review. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Endzone
No, you are not missing anything. Just add this to the list of many mistakes we made in this game. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jfranl Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:44 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Endzone On the pass into the endzone, why didn't the defensive back just tackle the receiver? I think the worst that would have happen was that it would be a penalty of half the distance but it would have taken time off the clock and they would have had to kick a field goal since they would not have had time to run another play. Am I missing something here? J. Fran Lasseter -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of wildeart...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 12:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] What bugs me I completely agree on our not seeing the fake. When they called that timeout, I recall wondering why they would do that... then the light came on and I started yelling at the monitor, Watch the fake!. It is completely unimaginable that our coaches wouldn't see the same thing. Heck, I'm not an expert and it seemed obvious to me. I mean, this particular fake they do is like our jump pass. They pull it out two or three times a year in just this type of situation, and the timeout was a dead give away. On the free timeout while under review, that was indeed unfortunate, but I think the replay rules solve more problems than they cause. In this case, it was just our bad luck that it worked against us that way. I guess I'd be more incensed about that, and the bad fake punt call, if I felt that we had outplayed them and that we really deserved the game. In my mind this loss is all on the coaches. I'm also a bit more relaxed than in earlier games because now I can finally just accept that we're not a very good team this year. They're still my team and they still have my full support, but I can finally stop worrying about polls and national championships and just take it one game at a time. It'll be interesting to see if we can beat Mullen. Rob Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: Is not the forward/backwards pass issue. I am somewhat bothered that we didn't see the play coming. We did in our living room. The distance was longer than the kicker had ever completed in his career, and - even if successful - would merely have given LSU overtime on the road against a loud raucous crowd. It seemed obvious that Mile would try to win the game in regulation. What bothers me is that, when the first down as picked up, LSU players were running to the line to spike the ball on 1st down to stop the clock. I think that LSU was out of time outs at that point, having used its last to set up the fake previously. Had normal football been played, 6 or so seconds would have run off the clock and LSU would have spiked the ball on first down; leaving it three tries (and not a lot of time) at the end zone. There is also the outside change of a penalty on the offense for not being set, improper alignment, too many players on the field, as often happens when one tries to run to the line of scrimmage to spike the ball and stop the clock. Instead, the official review acted as a free LSU timeout, giving it a chance to freely substitute and be set when the clock started. More importantly, LSU no longer had to waste first down on the spike - giving it 4 shots at the end zone instead of 3. LSU scored on its fourth try; a try it would not have had but for the official review. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/11 3:00PM Edition, Courtesy of Shane Ford
I find this quote interesting, usually Meyer says that all playcalling is a discussion and he has final say. This time he says I'm involved... Meyer said he heard the fans booing the play calling at Saturday night's loss to LSU. I think (Steve Addazio) has a tough job, Meyer said. Obviously he can handle it. I'm very involved in the offense as well. ... An offense minus big plays is tough in this day and age. How do you create big plays? You get guys loose and hit 'em when they're open. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:18 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/11 3:00PM Edition, Courtesy of Shane Ford Plenty of work to do, Meyer says By Jeff Barlis mailto:barl...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Online Sports Editor Published: Monday, October 11, 2010 at 1:08 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, October 11, 2010 at 1:08 p.m. Florida coach Urban Meyer knows his team is lacking in some areas, but work at practice is the key to turning around a struggling team, he said. We win championships as a team, and we fight through adversity as a team, Meyer said Monday. I just want to make sure we avoid the poison that affects college football teams. Meyer addressed several points at his weekly meeting with the news media Monday at UF: I don't feel like we played great defense. Red-zone efficiency is not where we want it. Lack of explosive plays ... we're void of those right now. And taking care of the football. Those are the core values of how to win a game. We're not having those home-run shots. (Jeff) Demps being banged up, we see a guy like (Andre) Debose can get some things done. Meyer was not happy with the production of his offensive line. I don't think we played great, he said. Very inconsistent. It seems the moment you get one group back, then the skill positions get banged up. We're anxious to get everyone back. LSU became a blitz-a-thon. There are ways to relieve pressure ... but we didn't do those things very well. On the injury front, Meyer said Demps is feeling a lot better, but wasn't ready for the LSU game. Offensive lineman Jon Halapio is doubtful after surgery on his fractured finger Sunday. QB John Brantley has a sore shoulder to go along with sore ribs and a sprained thumb. Safety Matt Elam and wide receiver Deonte Thompson have concussions and are day-to-day. Meyer said he heard the fans booing the play calling at Saturday night's loss to LSU. I think (Steve Addazio) has a tough job, Meyer said. Obviously he can handle it. I'm very involved in the offense as well. ... An offense minus big plays is tough in this day and age. How do you create big plays? You get guys loose and hit 'em when they're open. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
Scott, Do you remember this?? Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems from top to bottom right now. Just wait till next year from https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com reply-to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk@googlegroups.com to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif gatortalk@googlegroups.com date https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Tue, Oct 2, 2007 at 7:26 PM subjecthttps://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif [gatortalk] Dan Mullen's Playbook mailing list https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk.googlegroups.com https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Aha! I found the problem! https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=d1b84909feview=attth=115634159c8c3f 45attid=0.1disp=inlinezw --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- Ken K MN Gator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Scott Lucas wrote: 30 straight running plays worked. He played to his team's strengths and his opponent's weakness. That is how you win. You don't want to win? That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense... He was playing on a knife edge. Had the roles been reversed and either; The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy. How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively enough - this year. I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were directed at Mullen during his time at UF. Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year. We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress. I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how they were when he was paying attention to every little detail. Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a hurry. The big question/debate seems to be this; If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be able to make the needed corrections? Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary to right the ship, or if seeing that doing things this way isn't good enough, will once again retire (where I stand now). Steve -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.uscleardot.gifplaycall wheel.jpg
RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am sorry. Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed that he left. While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department. And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field with the opportunity to make the play and win the game, they didn't. My hope is we can take these next two weeks and make the needed changes and salvage something out of this season or this could be a turning point in our program. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Oh, man! I had forgotten about the wheel. I remember printing that out and it actually working 2 or 3 plays in a row. Shane Ford Sent from my iPhone Go Gators! On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: Scott, Do you remember this?? Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems from top to bottom right now. Just wait till next year from https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com reply-to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk@googlegroups.com to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif gatortalk@googlegroups.com date https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Tue, Oct 2, 2007 at 7:26 PM subjecthttps://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif [gatortalk] Dan Mullen's Playbook mailing list https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk.googlegroups.com https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Aha! I found the problem! https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=d1b84909feview=attth=115634159c8c3f 45attid=0.1disp=inlinezw playcall wheel.jpg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions http://www.gatornet.us/ www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- Ken K MN Gator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Scott Lucas wrote: 30 straight running plays worked. He played to his team's strengths and his opponent's weakness. That is how you win. You don't want to win? That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense... He was playing on a knife edge. Had the roles been reversed and either; The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy. How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively enough - this year. I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were directed at Mullen during his time at UF. Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year. We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress. I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how they were when he was paying attention to every little detail. Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a hurry. The big question/debate seems to be this; If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be able to make the needed corrections? Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary to right the ship, or if seeing that doing
RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
If that's what we needed to do to win, then why were you mocking it at the time? Come on, can't have it both ways. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:32 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Yeah, I remeber that... but you know something? That's what we needed to do to win, and we DID it! What do you think we need to do to win this year, and are we doing it? I couldn't care less about predictable. A win is a win. Run it 30 times if you have to. Just about everyone on this list would rather have had a win the other night with 30 straight runs. _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:19:34 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Scott, Do you remember this?? Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems from top to bottom right now. Just wait till next year from https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com reply-to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk@googlegroups.com to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif gatortalk@googlegroups.com date https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Tue, Oct 2, 2007 at 7:26 PM subjecthttps://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif [gatortalk] Dan Mullen's Playbook mailing list https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk.googlegroups.com http://gatortalk.googlegroups.com/ https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Aha! I found the problem! https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=d1b84909feview=attth=115634159c8c3f 45attid=0.1disp=inlinezw --~--~-~--~~-- --~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -~--~~~~-- ~~--~--~--- Ken K MN Gator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Scott Lucas wrote: 30 straight running plays worked. He played to his team's strengths and his opponent's weakness. That is how you win. You don't want to win? That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense... He was playing on a knife edge. Had the roles been reversed and either; The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy. How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively enough - this year. I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were directed at Mullen during his time at UF. Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year. We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress. I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how they were when he was paying attention to every little detail. Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a hurry. The big question/debate seems to be this; If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be able to make the needed corrections? Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary to right the ship, or if seeing that doing things this way isn't good enough, will once again retire (where I stand now). Steve -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National
RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
Except, the spinwheel came out during the 2007 season. We lost 4 games that year. And while I will agree that our offense was better that year than this (could it be worse?), it was still very predictable and even with two of the best all time players Mullen couldn't win more than 9 games. And as far as the players not having the ability, come on, they make plays all game long and miss one and they don't have the ability? I am not happy with this teams performance either, but to think it would have been okay with Adazzio in another role is whistling past the graveyard. We went through tremendous upheaval in our coaching staff this year and if what Steve is saying is true, the foundation on which the program was built is crumbling. The problems we are seeing on the field are systemic and replacing one person will not right the ship. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen It's fine, I authored the initial thread, and I loved that wheel! My point is, we may not have agreed with Mullen at the time, but it worked. What we are doing now is just as predictable and more unimaginative AND doesn't necessarily take the skills of our players into account. You can't say Mullen was wrong using Tebow and Harvin like he did... For some reason, this search for playmakers is the worst part. As you said, we had players on the field with a CHANCE but not the ability. _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:33:41 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am sorry. Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed that he left. While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department. And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field with the opportunity to make the play and win the game, they didn't. My hope is we can take these next two weeks and make the needed changes and salvage something out of this season or this could be a turning point in our program. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Oh, man! I had forgotten about the wheel. I remember printing that out and it actually working 2 or 3 plays in a row. Shane Ford Sent from my iPhone Go Gators! On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote: Scott, Do you remember this?? Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems from top to bottom right now. Just wait till next year from https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com reply-to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk@googlegroups.com to https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif gatortalk@googlegroups.com date https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Tue, Oct 2, 2007 at 7:26 PM subjecthttps://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif [gatortalk] Dan Mullen's Playbook mailing list https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Gatortalk.googlegroups.com http://gatortalk.googlegroups.com/ https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Aha! I found the problem! https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=d1b84909feview=attth=115634159c8c3f 45attid=0.1disp=inlinezw playcall wheel.jpg --~--~-~--~~-- --~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions http://www.gatornet.us/ www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -~--~~~~-- ~~--~--~--- Ken K MN Gator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Scott Lucas wrote: 30 straight running plays worked. He played to his team's strengths and his opponent's weakness. That is how you win. You don't want to win? That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense... He was playing on a knife edge. Had the roles been reversed and either; The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't
RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
I think we are on the same page here. I agree that this is Meyer's problem. Everyone is saying we need to fire Adazzio, replace Brantley, etc.,etc. We have problems in every facet of the game from play calling to execution to chemistry and leadership. Replacing one person won't solve the problem, we need to find the root cause and fix that. Is it the disorganization in practice? I don't know but we better find out soon! And yes we have players making plays all game. Janoris Jenkins has 2 interceptions on the year, yet missed covering the kicker on the LSU fake FG, Carl Moore has been making plays, Gillislee has been productive. If nobody was making plays, we would be getting blown out instead of losing at the last second. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:31 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Come on! If we were making plays all game we wouldn't be driving for game tieing field goals with 2 minutes to go or being blown out by 20+ points! You cannot believe they are making plays all game!!! Seriously? Adazzio is the assistant head coach. He is number 2. He has been there and done that. If practice is not going smoothly because too many new faces as Steve suggests, Adazzio is the fiery, motivational leader that isn't leading? He doesn't have some level or responsibility to take charge of that? Why would he sit idlely by and let that happen? He was there last year, he knows what should be done and how. Is he afraid of stepping on Meyer's toes? Surely Meyer sees the disorganization, shouldn't he step in or have his assistant head coach take charge? Something is amiss... and it does start with coaching. I stated that in an earlier post. I also stated that these highly skilled players didn't just start sucking. They are not being coached up correctly. They didn't suddenly stop running fast. They didn't stop making plays or unlearn how to catch. They are not being put into a position to maximize their ability, and that goes exactly in line with what I was saying about designing around your personnel. All of these kids are Meyer recruits. They should fit or you have a plan to utilize their skills, if they don't and you don't, then don't recruit them. It seems as if people are afraid to point the finger at Meyer. They would rather pinpoint Adazzio and, while he may be the root of the problem, its up to Meyer to fix. That's why he is paid the big bucks. I'm glad he is finally saying we need a change. After the previous two losses it was all about excuses. _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:53:17 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Except, the spinwheel came out during the 2007 season. We lost 4 games that year. And while I will agree that our offense was better that year than this (could it be worse?), it was still very predictable and even with two of the best all time players Mullen couldn't win more than 9 games. And as far as the players not having the ability, come on, they make plays all game long and miss one and they don't have the ability? I am not happy with this teams performance either, but to think it would have been okay with Adazzio in another role is whistling past the graveyard. We went through tremendous upheaval in our coaching staff this year and if what Steve is saying is true, the foundation on which the program was built is crumbling. The problems we are seeing on the field are systemic and replacing one person will not right the ship. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen It's fine, I authored the initial thread, and I loved that wheel! My point is, we may not have agreed with Mullen at the time, but it worked. What we are doing now is just as predictable and more unimaginative AND doesn't necessarily take the skills of our players into account. You can't say Mullen was wrong using Tebow and Harvin like he did... For some reason, this search for playmakers is the worst part. As you said, we had players on the field with a CHANCE but not the ability. _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:33:41 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am sorry. Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed that he left. While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department. And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field
RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen
I had the thought that Brantley might transfer after this year if things don't improve. He is in his 4th year, so should be on track to graduate. He would then be able to transfer to a D1 school that offers a masters program that UF does not and play next year. I am not advocating this, but if we refuse to use his abilities we are better off letting Burton get the snaps now so we can be better in the future. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until the offensive line learns to pass block. It will make listening to the radio broadcast a bit awkward, but it already is a bit slanted with the family connection. I get tired of hearing quotes like Johnny did his best to get that ball there and the receivers just need to make those catches, when the unbiased comment should have been, Johnny seems to be having problems with the pressure and isn't getting the ball to his receivers. Let the flaming begin. Ducking for cover. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen From what I gather Loeffler is respected for his knowledge and ability, and he was the one that has designed the Brantley half of our offensive identity. Through no fault of his, and to some extent, Brantley's, this has been the less effective side of our offense. I remember someone commenting on how much more the OL seemed to want to block for Burton than they do for Brantley. The way I understand it, it has nothing to do with favoring one over the other, but all to do with the fact that they've been trained to block, and have a greater comfort level with the plays that are run with Burton at QB. Since Meyer also has a greater comfort level with the spread option than he does with the spread, going forward we'll likely see Loeffler's (and Brantley's) contributions in smaller percentages than we have so far. John Vega wrote: I'm curious about the QB coach; Loeffler. Is he not working out; or has he been stifled by Addazio. Given his NFL coaching experience, he seems like the logical guy to help retool this offense with Brantley, unless he has been a bust. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen
I'm not sure I buy the whole zone blocking thing anyway. Even in a pro-set offense the line does zone blocking and you have pulling guards, etc. I think the problem is too many missed assignments, rarely having a back in to block and when we do, he misses. In 2006 our most valuable player was Billy Latsko the FB. We need to go back to that set and then we will be able to run. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen In an earlier post I touched on the issues that this O-Line has with the zone/read blocking which they have to do. I have an opposite opinion. In the first half, in which we zone block for this spread nightmare, we are not doing well at all. However, when we let them pass protect and run block normally in the second half, it works! I think there is some merit to them not being ready to do both equally well. But then if they do one well, why not run it all the time? We have been effective in the second half when we let Brantley be Brantley. I also concur that it is not wholly Brantley's fault. He has had more than his fair share of drops. I do want to point out that the sore thumb is NOT helping matters and explains the errant passes. Hopefully he heals up in the next 2 weeks. I do not think we need to push Burton into the starting role or take away Brantley's reps. What he needs is the offense to work to his strength and the O-line's strength which seems to be a more pro style drop back and block offense. It is NOT what we have been doing in every first half to date. We are forcing two square pegs into one round hole-- Brantley and the O-line. Both are not running the spread well, but both do better when we open it up. _ From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:23:59 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen I think it's a shame that we can't tailor our offense to play to the strengths of a passing QB. Oh, wait! We did that in 2005-2006, didn't we? Why are we unable to do it now? Why can't we dust off the playbooks from 2006 and run that offense? Ken, I have to agree with you on your thoughts for Brantley. It would be hard to think he's not at least giving it serious thought. The worst part is if I were the father of a passing QB son, I would NEVER let him play for Coach Meyer after how I've witnessed him nearly get Brantley killed trying to pretend like he's a QB that he's not - JMHO. Jay, do you have room under that canoe? :-) _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:05:10 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen I had the thought that Brantley might transfer after this year if things don't improve. He is in his 4th year, so should be on track to graduate. He would then be able to transfer to a D1 school that offers a masters program that UF does not and play next year. I am not advocating this, but if we refuse to use his abilities we are better off letting Burton get the snaps now so we can be better in the future. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until the offensive line learns to pass block. It will make listening to the radio broadcast a bit awkward, but it already is a bit slanted with the family connection. I get tired of hearing quotes like Johnny did his best to get that ball there and the receivers just need to make those catches, when the unbiased comment should have been, Johnny seems to be having problems with the pressure and isn't getting the ball to his receivers. Let the flaming begin. Ducking for cover. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen From what I gather Loeffler is respected for his knowledge and ability, and he was the one that has designed the Brantley half of our offensive identity. Through no fault of his, and to some extent, Brantley's, this has been the less effective side of our offense. I remember someone commenting on how much more the OL seemed to want to block for Burton than they do for Brantley. The way I understand it, it has nothing to do with favoring one over the other, but all to do with the fact that they've been trained to block, and have a greater comfort level with the plays that are run with Burton at QB. Since Meyer also has a greater comfort level with the spread option than he does
[gatortalk] Revisionist History re: Cam Newton
During the Auburn Arkansas game on Saturday they made a statement regarding Cam's transfer, basically saying he decided to transfer after Tebow announced he was coming back for his senior year. That didn't sound right to me, primarily because it isn't true. Cam was arrested 11/21/08 for throwing the Heisman out the window, he announced on 1/05/09 that he was transferring to Blinn CC, Tebow announced he was coming back at the NC celebration on 1/12/09. So a full week before Tebow announces, somehow Cam already knew... At the time remember, Cam was suspended from the team and Tebow was in Miami for bowl prep. Cam transferred for the simple reason that he had been suspended from the team for comitting a criminal act, he had the opportunity to rejoin the team but took the option to transfer so he could playing time, not because Meyer kicked him off the team. He had the same opportunity to rejoin the team as Chris Rainey, bu we keep hearing about the double standard of Meyer. I wish Cam all the best in the world, but the adoration that is being piled on him while casually dismissing the 'incident' is just wrong. UF still gets raked over the coals for having 30 arrests - guess what Cam was one of those, so why doesn't his arrest transfer with him??? Also, Cam is the QB he is today because he transferred. The year as a starter in CC was what he needed, he wouldn't have gotten the reps as the backup or 3rd string that he got as the starter at Blinn. That is what made him the better QB today. Ken K MNGator -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For10/23, Courtesy of Shane Ford
I think it is interesting that the universities all complain about the agents on campus, yet they use the same company, IMG, that is the largest agent service around. Not to hijack the thread, but it would seem if IMG wants the commission off of licensing, the colleges and universities would have a heavy economic hand to swing in regards to the agent issues. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:47 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For10/23, Courtesy of Shane Ford I think this is the biggest company: About The Collegiate Licensing Company CLC is a division of global sports and entertainment company IMG. Founded in 1981, CLC is the oldest and largest collegiate licensing agency in the U.S. and represents nearly 200 colleges, universities, bowl games, athletic conferences, the Heisman Trophy and the NCAA. Its mission is to be the guiding force in collegiate trademark licensing and one of the top sports licensing firms in the country. Headquartered in Atlanta, CLC provides full-service capabilities in brand protection, brand management and brand development. For more information, visit http://www.clc.com/ www.clc.com or http://www.imgworld.com/ www.imgworld.com. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:29 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Helen Huntley wrote: Other schools do this too. FYI-Here is an editorial regarding FSU cracking down on Bradenton Southeast High School's use of the Seminole logo: http://www.bradenton.com/2010/09/19/2587869/seminoles-vs-seminoles-logo-war. html It might be a different school, but I would wager that it is the same licensing company. This may be the story that everyone seems to be missing, that one licensing company is acting much more heavy-handed than companies had in the past, that the high schools are suffering, and that the Universities are reaping the bad press. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- Helen Huntley (727) 823-3801 www.helenhuntley.com -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] I've gotta good feeling...
This off week came at the perfect time, it has allowed everyone to sit back calm down and look at this season in the grand scheme of things. It has given the football team a chance to heal physically and it has given the coaches an extra week to fix the problems. It has even given me a chance to go back and re-watch the last three games, boy, what a joy! At the risk of being labeled a Polly Anna, we are not as bad as we have looked. In fact, for as bad as we have played we easily could have won the last two games. Of course, we could have just as easily been blown out. What I am seeing with this team is conservative play calling, poor execution by players and turnovers. With bad play calling and poor execution, we still would have won the last two on talent alone. Throw in turnovers at inopportune times and it spelled doom. Playcalling - I am not sure if it's the plays being called or the scheme. I watch a lot of football and there are a couple of plays that we just don't run. One is WR crossing routes off the line - this makes the defense make a choice immediately as to who is going to cover who, more often than not one of the WRs will get separation and be open. This is an especially important play for us as our OL is not providing the protection for our guys to get open downfield, and most D's are playing a cover 2 most of the time, leaving 2 safeties deep to double on the long ball. The second thing that is missing is misdirection - based on how we line up and certain tells (look at RBs and OL slightly angled in the direction we are going), not every player but enough that a LB who has watched enough film during the week can probably guess right 80% of the time which direction we are running. A misdirection play will help because they now have to wait before attacking the hole. The third big missing play is a simple slant or crossing route from our slot receivers. These guys will usually be covered by a LB coming across the middle and we should be able to win that battle, but we never seem to run the play. The last thing is audibles at the line. I don't know if Brantley is allowed to or not, but last week we had at least 2 plays where the corner came on a blitz and the WR was left uncovered as the safeties had crept up to cover the run. A simple hot audible and it would have been a TD, but instead we handed off to a RB both times. Execution - Who was the coach when asked about his team's execution replied I'm all for it? Bottom line is we have very talented players who more often than not are in position to make plays, but don't. I don't know if is mental or what, but they have the physical attributes but tank. Brantley with off-target throws, we have seen him zip it in at time, but he is inconsistent. Deonte with the drops, numerous OL whiffing on blocks, DBs who can't tackle, etc. I have a hard time attributing this to coaching as this coaching staff has been successful in the past, yes there are a lot of changes, but at the same time there is a lot of holdover too. Turnovers - Anybody else equate the return of fumbilitis with the return of Stan Drayton? Wasn't that the big knock on him when he left? Turnovers are killing us, we fix this and things will get better in a hurry. As for this weekend, I'm as nervous as I have been in a long time for a Cocktail Party, but I think we will come out strong and with something to prove. Ugh is going to come out and think they can throw it all over the field like they have the past 3 games (against UT, UK and Vandy). They are going to find out that even with 3 losses, we are bit more formidable opponent than they have seen recently and if they want to try and use AJ Jones, bring it on, I say we end up with at least 3 picks this weekend. If we don't turn the ball over, Gators win 34-17. If we turn it over, someone better rush Woody to the hospital... Ken K MNGator -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot
Or he could be saying something to just say something because fans and media need to here SOMETHING. Urban has always kept things close to the vest and I have never put much stock into what he says, but as Steve said a few weeks back, the urgency in practices has been missing, maybe this is to what he is referring. I still stand by my opinion that we are not that bad. We are inconsistent and have made very bad plays at very bad times. I think the team chemistry is a huge issue, think about this sequence: - having highly touted freshman come in being cocky - having the senior offensive leader crack back at them through the media - senior leader then goes out and lays the biggest egg ever - no playmakers, but a lot of young guys on the sideline that show glimpses of brilliance (and inexperience) when they get in the game - 3 straight losses What I hoped happened over the off week was that players and coaches were able to decompress and everyone realize what needs to be done to win. Thinking that Urban and staff haven't seen some specific areas of improvement, doesn't give him much credit. Did he suddenly forget everything that has been successful in the past? Or is it that his system can only be successful with great players? Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lucas Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:25 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!! I don't buy into this its the practice excuse. Surely our highly paid and successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to that, or was there? If something was done, why has it not made a difference? Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out that the practices were lacking? C'mon! That's weak... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Georgia overtime
Yep, that is true. If we had scored on the INT return, game over. Since it wasn't a score but a change of possession, all possessions in college OT start at the 25. At the beginning of OT they flip a coin, winner gets to pick whether they want to be on offense or defense first. Usually they will pick defense first, that way you know if you have to go for it on 4th down if the other team has already scored a TD. In each subsequent OT period, the possessions alternate, so since we were on D first, we woul the be Offense first in the 2nd OT, they don't re-flip the coin. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jfranl Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:04 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Georgia overtime I watched the Georgia overtime game again. I believe they said that since we intercepted the ball in overtime, we would get the ball back at the 25 (which we did), but then we get the ball again, whether we score or not. Is this true? And then what? Fran -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results
What a great game! I wish we could play twice each week. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:49 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Gator News Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results Congrats to Bo Wroble for going 10-2 last week in Pick 'Em. Bo takes first place. Second place at 9-3 was a tie among Eric Bunce, Joseph Sams, Troy Williams, and William Kellermier. Loads of people finished 3rd at 8-4. For the year, Ryan Marcus has a two-game lead on Art Wroble, Carlos Martinez, and Joe Standley, and a three-game lead on Dustin Davis, John McInnes, and Ken Kirkley. We'll play again this week, no Thursday night game of real interest, so Pick 'Em won't close till Saturday. We should get it ready sometime tomorrow. Results: http://pickem.g8r.com Go GATORS! John and Oz -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results
Oh you bet, people are dieing to see me there... Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:52 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results Very funny, Ken. I bet you're a hit at funerals. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:30:24 -0600 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results What a great game! I wish we could play twice each week. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:49 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Gator News Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results Congrats to Bo Wroble for going 10-2 last week in Pick 'Em. Bo takes first place. Second place at 9-3 was a tie among Eric Bunce, Joseph Sams, Troy Williams, and William Kellermier. Loads of people finished 3rd at 8-4. For the year, Ryan Marcus has a two-game lead on Art Wroble, Carlos Martinez, and Joe Standley, and a three-game lead on Dustin Davis, John McInnes, and Ken Kirkley. We'll play again this week, no Thursday night game of real interest, so Pick 'Em won't close till Saturday. We should get it ready sometime tomorrow. Results: http://pickem.g8r.com Go GATORS! John and Oz -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
Nope, they don't need to proove Cam had knowledge. Remember, the NCAA is not a court of law, they don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt or even to the preponderence of evidence. They can make any decision the infractions committee feels just based on the information in front of them. And while they don't have subpeona powers, if they ask a member school for information or access to an individual associated with the school, the school must provide or it is deemed an admission of guilt (see the F$U case). If the rule were simply that if Cam didn't have knowledge, then it is okay, every school in the country would be paying parents. The problem at hand is the NCAA does not move fast in this type of investigation. They will want to see the whole picture to determine if it is simply an athlete eligibility issue or if some of these other allegations are also true. Until they rule, it is up to the school to determine eligibility and Auburn has determined they will play Cam. Auburn is playing a risky game of poker here, if Cam is ultimately ruled ineligible, their whole season goes down the crapper, or they may determine he is eligible and all is well. In the meantime, they play for the SECC and BCSC and possibly bring home a title. Two years down the road, the NCAA may rule and the wins get stripped, but they have had two years of recruiting success based on this year. Auburn is all in, do or die. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:11 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING I've been following this as well. There would seemingly need to be some proof of knowledge on Cams part. But I don't know if that is a fact or not. Proving he had knowledge is going to be pretty tough. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING Yep.. thats basically what happened with the Reggie Bush scandal. But some of the so called experts Ive been listening to on the situation think that if Cam had no knowledge.. Cam may be cleared. I think with Reggie Bush... he knew of the situation. Granted.. the question is.. how could Cam NOT know. Who knows who actually knows or did what. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com wrote: FBI aside, from what I understand, the NCAA forbids even the player's FAMILY from negotiations. If it is determined that his dad DID offer to steer his son to a particular school for a payoff, Cam will be ruled ineligible. Period. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:57 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING yes. The FBI is investigating. Yes.. the NCAA is investigating. But we dont know that they have found anything criminal or corrupt yet. And youll excuse me for saying.. Fla was once also accused and charged with just as scandalous of behavior... does that mean UF is corrupt? Does that mean Bama is corrupt after their incident? The answer is no obviously... but lets not jump to conclusions about Cam or Auburn till we know for sure. There are no facts (so far) that Cam has done anything wrong. Woody On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stephen Manuel srman...@bellsouth.net wrote: What do you mean no facts ?? We know that MSU alleged that they were approached by people stating they represented Cam Newton and wanted money for him to sign with MSU. This has been verified by numerous people. We know the FBI is involved and have questioned MSU representatives. We know that Auburn has a long and distinguished history of cheating. We know that Bobby Lowder and other AU boosters have corrupted the AU program for a long time. We know that Lowder's Bank went under. We know that Auburn Boosters have been arrested for bribing Politicians. We know that the FBI has wiretapped numerous phones in the investigation of Lowder and other AU boosters over Bank and Gambling issues. I've followed and been involved in recruiting for over 25 years, only the most diehard Auburn Fan would not believe they are in deep doo doo. Does anyone honestly believe that MSU was told it will take 100-180K to get Cam Newton and all of a sudden he signs with Auburn for Free ?? The one thing that will absolutely kill Auburn is if the FBI has Auburn boosters on tape discussing who/what/when and how Auburn Players are getting paid. I'm 99% sure that they do. I still believe this has the potential to be the biggest scandal in College Football History. Stephen Manuel From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round
Not here it isn't. It is brown if you can find it beneath the white stuff. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:29 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round .the grass is green.nothing definitive yet From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:26 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] the earth is round .so I hear.. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game...
This is funny. We are in their heads for sure! We have a game where we count how many times Tebow says blessed, bless or blessing. Every time he is talking on camera, numerous variations come out. And as for his suggestion to drink upon seeing a Gator fan in jorts, how about drinking every time you see a bammer with toilet paper and laundry detergent on his head? Unfortunately, they think that is the intended use of those products. Ken K. MNGator _ From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:30 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game... The SEC College Football Season comes to a climax this weekend in the Florida v Alabama championship game in Atlanta. The son of Chuck Norris, Tim Tebow will face an Alabama team aching for revenge after last year's SEC championship loss to the same unholy lord of college football. Face it folks, even though Tebow spends his free time preaching to the incarcerated, curing cancer (we assume), trimming the foreskin of the impoverished, and keeping the planets properly aligned by toting the earth around the sun to keep it in its proper orbit; on the field he's not nearly so generous. On the field he dominates. In honor of Tebow's sheer awesomeness, we give you the Tebow SEC Championship Drinking Game! * Drink every time Tebow is called a warrior. Bonus chug if any of your friends sing the first two hours lines of Scandal's opus I am a warrior and change the lyrics to Tebow is... Dance, Tebow, you magnificent bastard. * Drink every time Tebow's called a leader, then salute. * Drink every time Tebow's called a special athlete, then yell Tay! * Finish your drink if the announcers suggest Tebow should win the Heisman again this year. * Drink every time Tebow points to the sky. Then realize the only reason the sky hasn't fallen is the strength of his pointing. * Drink every time Tebow references God. * Drink every time he's shown on the sidelines flapping his arms like a bird (or an idiot) to pump up the crowd. * If (when) Tebow actually takes flight, finish your drink and do a shot. * Drink every time Tebow's on camera for no reason when the Florida defense is on the field. * Drink every time Tebow is seen screaming with his helmet off. * Drink every time they show a I Heart Tebow sign in the stands. * Drink every time you see a Florida fan in jorts. (Small sips on this one. Otherwise it could kill you). * Shot every time they mention his experience as missionary. * If they mention him performing circumcisions in the Philippines while he was a missionary - Chug your beer, do a shot of Patron. *When Alabama wins and Tebow gives a tearful speech in the post-game press conference, give the television the bird, turn up your bottle of Jim Beam, and don't stop drinking OR flipping off the TV till Tebow runs out of tears. (This may take several bottles of Jim) Then throw the empty bottle(s) through the television and quote the good book by saying the Terrence Cody falls upon the just and the unjust alike! Club a baby seal and start prepping for Texas. (Disclaimer: Playing the Tebow drinking game may well result in death. So don't do it. Ever. Not even in jest. The content above this disclaimer is a joke, not a suggestion. If you're dumb enough to do it, just pray Tebow is nearby. Only he can save you. Him or a local hospital with a stomach pump.) -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC
Someone needs to tell Lacey that the 1950's just called and wants its hair back. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:48 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Helen Huntley wrote: I loved that Andy Staples took a photo of the two women in action and didn't realize until later that he'd caught them in the act of violating the rules. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/12/11/tennessee-r ecruiting/ Lacey Pearl Earps, now that's a name! -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator
That’s write Randy, you set him strait! I mean what a looser, criticizing grammar…:-) _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Platt Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:55 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator I couldn't help but ask…… arrangent = arrangement? People who live in glass houses have to dress in the basement. Randy Platt aka PCGator aka The Armchair Quarterback aka The Other Randy Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:35 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator In a slightly related subject, I attended the visitation at a funeral home for a precious lady friend of ours yesterday and was appalled to see this ribbon attached to the huge and obviously very expensive flower arrangent lying on the casket for the 700+ visitors to see... Cherised Mother Only in Tennessee... Randy Lyons Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē _ Steve McKibben wrote: I realize that I'm probably being pedantic here, but is anyone else annoyed that these kinds of errors get past the writer, his editor, and everyone else that sees this prior to publication? Considering UF's strick policy regarding students who are arrested for DUI, it seems a little odd that Dunlap is being allowed to play. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars
Why do people go looking for stories like this? It is really meaningless without comparative data from aother schools; b other groups of students at UF or c any other scientific measurement. Rather, they compare it to college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average number of citations the average UF student receives. Heck, I received 3 tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average student I guess. This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy. What I really want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel sportswriters? Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage? Ken MNGator Happy Holidays! _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars 12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL December 22, 2009 GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/florida-gators-ORSPT00 0172.topic were racing to a national title. Literally. Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research. These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or, for repeat offenders, a felony. The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp on scholarship or served in the game participation portion of this season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville. Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges don't result in jail booking. Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as open or undisposed in the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are either unpaid or unresolved. Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including Tim Tebow http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/tim-tebow-PESPT008528. topic - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County. Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus less than a year. But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18). The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11), defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7) and Jaye Howard (7). Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a criminal charge for driving while never owning a license. Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI charge among the Gators. The cases of Cunningham, who avoided arrest, and Doe, who was arrested in July for driving excessively with a suspended license, resemble a common tale State Attorney Bill Cervone knows too well. Someone accumulates too many tickets, possibly doesn't pay them and eventually gets assessed an unknowingly driving with a suspended license charge. That charge classifies as a routine criminal or civil traffic citation - pay and go on your way - but the second time around would elevate to a knowingly driving without a valid license. Cunningham caught the suspended license charge in Jan. 28, 2008, and the case has been resolved along with all his previous citations. Doe has only nine total tickets, but four of them are criminal charges and three are still classified as open until he fulfills stipulations such as community service stemming from his summer arrest. Carodine was
RE: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators!
Merry Christmas from Snowy Minnesota! No need to wish for a white Christmas here. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 6:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators! To all of my family and friends in the GatorNation, I pray that Santa was good to all of you this morning. My Christmas wish for you all is that you have a wonderful and blessed day! With my children grown, there is not the same excitement in my home than when my children were younger. Someday I will have grand children and the excitement will return. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?
I heard we are going after Kiffen, he knows how to get us back on the map... -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned? I thought the state of Fla had had enough of Gruden? lol On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:04 PM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I see a lot of names already - why is Gruden not being mentioned? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] News?
I'm no Pollyanna, but I want to know what you were expecting for next year and how do you think that changes now? At this point, we don't know who the recruits are, we don't know which juniors leave early and we don't know who will actually be coaching. It is way too early to begin writing off the 2010 season. In my opinion, 2010 will surprise a lot of people. While our schedule is more difficult, our talent is still above most. At this early stage here is how I see it breaking down: Sure wins (5): Miami (OH), Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Appalachian State Probable wins (4): USF, Tennessee, South Carolina, SOW Tough games (2): LSU, Georgia Probable loss (1): Alabama So if the sky is falls and the program is in disarray, we are looking at 8-4, more likely scenario is 9-3 or 10-2. If we hold the recruiting class together, the number of juniors going pro is limited to Haden, Dunlap, Hernandez and one or both of the Pouncey's, and the coaching situation is stabilized (either way) I think you can add USF, Tennessee, USC and SOW into the wins and Georgia into a probable win. Coach Meyer has built a winning program at UF. It will continue to thrive with or without him at the helm. Adazzio is a very experienced coach who had some growing pains this year as the head signal caller. I expect him to have more confidence and accept greater input from others on the staff this year so we will see better play calling. You also have to add in the intangible factor of motivation. The underclassmen have been hearing all year - wait till next year when Tebow is gone. This off season, you can bet they will be motivated to let everyone know, the foot is not off the gas pedal. It is a very important year in the Gator program, we need to beat UT, LSU, UGA and SOW to let them know that while Tebow is gone, the Gators are continuing to rise. Ken K. MNGator -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatorr Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:20 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News? Um hmm. Better get ur sleep now cuz '10 is gonna be a long long long long year. Woody (via iPhone) On Dec 27, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Tom Clarke gatort...@bellsouth.net wrote: If Meyer would or can restrict himself to use the leave time properly to work on the health issues with his doctor then his wife will have him at home much more. The question then is how long will it last? And can he learn to force himself to delegate some duties enough to avoid the same cycle again when he does return to 'active duty'. For now Gator Nation can sleep much better!! Tom C (gatortc) -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:59 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News? If Meyer seemed beaten down at the press conference, it might have had something to do with Shelly. I am sure she had her heart set on having him home. She might have kicked his butt when he told her he had reconsidered. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:19:13 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News? I think your right. Ive said it many times here... Meyer does not have a poker face. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Dr. Caffeine thecoffeelo...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know. But I think he is gone. His resignation may have too much negative impact. So they worked out a temporary solution. If they can't figure out that chest pain during the past few years, they won't be able to do that in the next few years too. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:28 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: Whew. Basically, a sabbatical. Let's hope he can get any physical issues taken care of. There is one thing worse than him walking out. It would be him being carried out. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:13 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comgatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News? Its official. He's taking an indefinite leave of absence, but said in his gut, he feels he'll be back in time for the 2010 season. Good news! Randy Lyons Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē ken...@earthlink.net wrote: Thanks. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:46:03 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] News? News conference postponed until 5:00
RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel
I think that when the announcement was made there were a lot of emotions tearing people apart. Regardless (or is it irregardless?) :-) once the dust settled with or without Meyer, I think we would have been fine. Would Rainey and Black really leave early to not be drafted? Would all the potential recruits leave just because Meyer is gone? Some would, but the core would stay intact. The interesting thing about this years recruiting class is that we have a very stocked team right now. These new recruits are to reload, not rebuild. So even if we miss on a few, it won't be all damaging and put us behind others in the state as some would like you to believe. The biggest downside to this years class is the numbers, we can sign the full 25 this year and with some attrition, we might sign fewer or take risks on lower rated prospects. My belief is in the end, we will end up with a top 5 class and all will be well. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:14 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel Its worse that that. Rumor is - when Meyer announced his retirement - a lot of the juniors were much more likely to leave and a lot of the recruits were less likely to arrive. Would have been a HUGE drop off in talent. From what I hear - both juniors and recruits are mostly back on board. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:58 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Has anyone wondered if Meyer leaving and then returning for the family and to finish a job is an object lesson for all the juniors thinking of leaving? H? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors.
Drama queen alert! Come on, he said he was looking forward to being corch of the Gators. Why do you think you know more than he does? Just wait it out, we will all know in due time. I can guarantee that Coach Meyer will not leave this program in shambles, he has built the PROGRAM to a point that if his health forces him out, we will continue our stay at the top. We have phenomenal talent returning next year, even if all the likely juniors go, we will be a top ten team and win the SECE. Have Faith! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:30 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors. Its written all over Meyers face..and Shelly's. This was his last game. His eyes are all glazed over and listen to his voice. If he's back Ill be absolutely shocked. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Wanda Barry g8...@comcast.net wrote: I'm beyond emotion right now and can't quiet grasp the end of this era. But you know, I'm a Gator and will always be a Gator and with pride I say...It's Great To Be a Florida Gator Wanda - Original Message - From: Woody mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com To: Gatortalk mailto:Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors. Unfortunately, it was your last game... but you did Florida proud and we will forever be grateful. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] 15 seconds (give or take) of fame(?)...
Steve, I think you nailed the reason why the tickets weren't selling through the UAA. Lot's of reason for it too: - Had to have really high priority to get BCS tickets through UAA. Many people who did not have that priority had already made other arrangements through StubHub or others. - Many Gators had made plans to travel out West - spend a few days in Vegas or Arizona before heading to the game. Those other vacation plans are often hard or expensive to change. - Can't ignore the economy, the face value tickets are expensive and travel is a hassle as well. - And finally, the tickets the UAA had to sell were some of the worse in the stadium, the schools allotments are usually in the corners of the endzones, so better tickets can be had buying directly from the Sugar Bowl. I watched on TV from chilly (-18) Minnesota, and it appeared the crowd was evenly split, Gators were certainly louder! And BTW, great job on the interview, but where was the Gatortalk mention? _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:56 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] 15 seconds (give or take) of fame(?)... On Tuesday the 29th, I drove my son Shane back to Gainesville so that he could attend marching band rehearsal with The Pride of the Sunshine ahead of their bus trip to New Orleans the following day. We had some time to kill before he had to report, so we hit Gators Dockside to get a bite to eat, and met a local TV20 reporter that was doing a story on why the UF allotment of tickets to the Sugar Bowl weren't selling out. As you can see from their video, they must have been very hard up for people to talk to... http://www.wcjb.com/news/5796/tickets-still-unsold-for-sugar-bowl http://www.wcjb.com/news/5796/tickets-still-unsold-for-sugar-bowl -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!
Uhmm, that two can be as bad as one, its the loneliest number since the number one. I don't get this sentiment at all, wouldn't you rather be #2 than #3? Look at all the play SOW got for their streak of top 5 finishes. We won't win it all every year, so we should strive for the best ranking we can get. We knew on December 5th that we wouldn't be #1, so should we have declined a bowl invitation? No! I will enjoy this game tonight because I don't have a dog in the hunt. If bammer wins, great, the SEC is still dominant, we will be ranked #2 and next year the winner of the SECC is already penciled in for the BCSC game. If Texas wins, great, bammers won't be able to claim their 44,323rd national championship and slimy Nick won't match Urban for number of BCSC, Gators will end up 3rd, which still isn't all bad. My best case scenario is that McCoy is intercepted 3 times, Ingram fumbles twice, Alabama is sacked for a safety but wins in the end 3-2. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! And being #2 means what? Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! I'm torn with who I want to win. If Bammy wins it should help us to end up in the #2 spot over Boise State. So, I'll root for them. I just won't like them. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:57 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! You have brought up an interesting subject, Johnny. As everyone knows, I am gator first and SEC second. Publicly, I'm saying that I am pulling for Bama to bring the 4th NC home to the SEC tonight, BUT every Bama fan I talk to has been very obnoxious about it. Even after the whipping they put on us, they can't seem to let it go. They're telling me we were overrated, pretenders, etc, and had no business even THINKING we could go to Pasadena. Now, I'm kinda hoping Texas will spank 'em. :-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:47 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! You think the elephants are going to win tonight? John From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:42 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! Too many dawgs and elephants here -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!
If you aren't the #1 sales team in America, are you a loser? What if we end up in the top 5 for the next 10 years. Maybe a couple of the finishes are in 1st, I still would like that streak. I don't look at any season in any sport as an all or none proposition. We competed against the schedule in front of us and lost one game. I think this is a good season. Do I want the rings, absolutely, but are we failures because we didn't get them? No. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:59 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! I understand your logic, but IMHO, at the end of the year, there are only three things that define the previous season - SEC East Champions, SEC Championship and National Championship. We missed two of the three, so it just means that we did great, but we'll have to try again next year. I don't think a recruit is going to look at the final rankings and say oh, UF is #3. I guess I'll go somewhere else since they didn't finish at #2. My favorite scenario would be for Ingram to rush for -50 yards, fumbles several times and never scores. Colt McCoy gets intercepted five or six times, and in the THIRD overtime (when no one is left watching), Mt. Cody sacks McCoy in the end zone for a safety. Bama wins 2-0. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! Uhmm, that two can be as bad as one, its the loneliest number since the number one. I don't get this sentiment at all, wouldn't you rather be #2 than #3? Look at all the play SOW got for their streak of top 5 finishes. We won't win it all every year, so we should strive for the best ranking we can get. We knew on December 5th that we wouldn't be #1, so should we have declined a bowl invitation? No! I will enjoy this game tonight because I don't have a dog in the hunt. If bammer wins, great, the SEC is still dominant, we will be ranked #2 and next year the winner of the SECC is already penciled in for the BCSC game. If Texas wins, great, bammers won't be able to claim their 44,323rd national championship and slimy Nick won't match Urban for number of BCSC, Gators will end up 3rd, which still isn't all bad. My best case scenario is that McCoy is intercepted 3 times, Ingram fumbles twice, Alabama is sacked for a safety but wins in the end 3-2. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! And being #2 means what? Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! I'm torn with who I want to win. If Bammy wins it should help us to end up in the #2 spot over Boise State. So, I'll root for them. I just won't like them. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:57 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! You have brought up an interesting subject, Johnny. As everyone knows, I am gator first and SEC second. Publicly, I'm saying that I am pulling for Bama to bring the 4th NC home to the SEC tonight, BUT every Bama fan I talk to has been very obnoxious about it. Even after the whipping they put on us, they can't seem to let it go. They're telling me we were overrated, pretenders, etc, and had no business even THINKING we could go to Pasadena. Now, I'm kinda hoping Texas will spank 'em. :-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:47 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! You think the elephants are going to win tonight? John From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:42 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops! Too many dawgs and elephants here -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages
We can actually sign up to 34 this year, depending on who goes pro early. We only signed 16 last year, so up to 9 of the early enrollees will count back to the 2009 class. Currently, we have 9 early entrants, and possibly 2-3 more. Since we are under the 85 limit, we can sign the full 25 for this year as well. I don't think we will sign that many, but will probably take 28 or 29 if they are the right guys. We could still pick up 5* OL Seantrell Henderson who is the #1 player in the country overall, and we now have a shot at several of the USC 5* guys now that Carroll is fleeing the sinkinf ship. If all this sticks, we will end up with one of the best overall recruiting classes ever. That is simply amazing considering what we have gone through. And with at least 9 of them available for spring practice and Mickey's conditioning, we should get a few very valuable contributors for next year. Ronald Powell looks like he could come in and play right away, he is a beast! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:44 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages This article did not even mention USC what is happening with all their 5 star recruits. Rumor is - Pete Carroll is leaving becaue of recruiting problems. At least one huge recruit is now considering florida. Gators may very well have a incredible problem on their hands. If a 5 star guy wants to sign with Florida - but we've already got 85 on scholarship / committed - what do we do? Not let a 3 star guy sign? Kick some under performers off the team? Original Message Subject: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net Date: Sun, January 10, 2010 11:03 am To: 'GatorNews' gatorn...@googlegroups.com Originally Published: January 9, 2010 Florida assembling a class for the ages Gators already have the nation's top class, but this could turn into the best of all time http://search.espn.go.com/gerry-hamilton/ HamiltonBy Gerry Hamilton, Scouts Inc. SAN ANTONIO -- The Florida Gators have what is already the nation's top-ranked recruiting class. Apparently, that's not good enough. After landing three more of the nation's top players during the Army All-American Bowl, the Gators are assembling one of the best recruiting classes of all time. One week after scoring defensive tackle http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=83134 Dominique Easley (Staten Island, N.Y./Curtis) and receiver http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69014se ason=2010 Chris Dunkley (Pahokee, Fla./Pahokee) during the Under Armour All-America Game, the Gators earned commits from DT http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=71591 Sharrif Floyd (Philadelphia/George Washington), ATH http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69371 Matt Elam (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla./Dwyer) and five-star DE http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=66339 Ronald Powell (Moreno Valley, Calif./Rancho Verde). Florida now has 24 commitments in the 2010 class, including 15 from the ESPNU 150. The impressive haul includes three five-star prospects and 13 four-star prospects, not including postgraduate four-star athlete http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=99494se ason=2010 Travon Van (La Mesa, Calif./Milford Academy). Even some of the Gators' commits are surprised at how this class has come together over the past two weeks. Four-star tight end http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69213 Gerald Christian (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla./Dwyer) has been there from the beginning, having committed to Florida in April of his junior year, but didn't see this coming. We have a very ridiculous class, said Christian, who is No. 32 in the ESPNU 150. We have three five-stars and a lot of people didn't think people were going to commit because of all of the stuff that went on with Urban Meyer. I'm glad to see it turned out the way it has. I didn't expect it to turn out this way but it's amazing. The all-star games are normally a fertile recruiting ground for committed players to recruit other players to join them at their school, but Christian hasn't even had to sell the program. Florida is basically just recruiting itself right now. I haven't had to say a thing, Christian said. The commitment party got started for the Gators at halftime when Floyd, the four-star DT, picked Florida over Ohio State, North Carolina and South Carolina. I just felt Florida was the best fit for me, Floyd said. I felt as though Florida and Ohio State were good fits, but Florida was just like a home away from home and I know I'll grow as a player. I think Florida is
RE: [gatortalk] Pouncey
Are you going to watch Bama and Georgia play? Don't you know, the wheels are falling off the Florida bus. We can't keep coaches, can't get anyone good to replace them and sure can't land any good recruits. My oh my, we will be lucky to finish at .500 next year, just hope the Dawgs and Noles don't whip us too bad.. Ken K. MNGator P.S. This is all the fault of the damn media blackout! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:02 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Pouncey Hello Atlanta 2010! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:00 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pouncey I was wondering about that... the txt msg didnt mention him. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Darlene Goodfellow goodfell...@earthlink.net wrote: Yeah, but the good news is Mike is staying and wants to move to the center position. - Original Message - From: Gatorr gatorrr...@gmail.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Pouncey ESPN NCAAF - Florida junior C Maurkice Pouncey (Rimington Award winner) will enter 2010 NFL Draft Woody (via iPhone) -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us http://www.gatornet.us/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early
My thinking is that everyone is just guessing at this point. The coaches know who is going pro, and probably have a good idea of who is going to transition out of the program, the rest of us are just guessing at how many ships are available. It really doesn't matter how many we count back to last year, as next year we won't be able to sign the full 25 anyway. I think the author of the article is thinking we can only sign the SEC maximum of 28 regardless of which class they count towards and so we would only have to count 3 of them back to last year.It seems from several sources, that you can only sign 28 max due to the new SEC rule, and that is a shame. In a few years, you will find the SEC at a competitive disadvantage to other conferences unless this is changed. Ken K MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:58 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early Maybe we only had 3 available scholarships from last year? Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:33 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early okay they say 28 recruits will be signed - with only 3 counting towards last year ? Last year we were 7 under the 85 limit and last year we only signed 16 which is 9 under that limit I don't understand why only 3 count towards last year ??? Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com Date: Mon, January 11, 2010 5:20 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Now, all of you who said bad things about Matt Elam, say 3 Hail Marys and 4 Our Fathers!! Then, give me 3 laps around the Swamp. :-) Even though national signing day is still three weeks away, almost half of Florida's 2010 recruiting class is already in school. Related Links: *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100109/ARTICLES/100109552 UF racks up at Army game *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100107/ARTICLES/100109668 Gainesville prep blog: Big-time d-line prospects *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100103/ARTICLES/100109910 UF recruits out in force at Under Armour All-America Game *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100102/NEWS/100109941 Gators land top recruits *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091231/ARTICLES/912319965 Five-star Elam switches commitment to FSU *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091226/ARTICLES/912269968 Recruits react to Meyer's departure *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091217/ARTICLES/912179960 UF football gets third commitment from Dwyer *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091212/ARTICLES/912139991 Gators feeling sting of Strong's exit in recruiting *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091212/ARTICLES/912129950 Kiffin says recruitment investigation a compliment *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091210/ARTICLES/912119996 Cody Riggs commits to Gators *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091209/ARTICLES/912099947 NCAA probes Vols recruiting *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091130/ARTICLES/911309905 Top shooting guard prospect says he's bound for UF *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091128/ARTICLES/911289963 UF gets second 2011 verbal commitment *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091127/ARTICLES/911279916 Florida-Florida State game a recruiting bonanza *http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091118/ARTICLES/911199977 UF softball makes room for pitcher Rogers * http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/temaoversikt?Dato=20100111Kategor i=ARTICLESLopenr=100119920Ref=ARProfile=1136 More Stories Three of the early enrollees are expected to count back to the 2009 recruiting class. And the Gators are expected to sign the SEC maximum of 28 players on national signing day (Feb. 3). Of the 24 high school prospects who have committed to the Gators, 11 are enrolled in classes and will participate in spring practice. The latest early enrollees include three of the five UF commitments who played in Saturday's Army All-American Game in San Antonio - cornerback Jaylen Watkins and West Palm Beach Dwyer teammates Matt Elam (safety) and Gerald Christian (tight end). Elam is one of the three five-star prospects who announced for Florida during Saturday's game. The others were defensive tackle Shariff Floyd and defensive end Ronald Powell. UF's other early enrollees are defensive end Neiron Ball, quarterback Trey Burton, wide receiver Robert Clark (another Dwyer teammate of Elam and Christian), defensive back Jordan Haden, defensive lineman Leon Orr, wide receiver Solomon Patton, defensive back Joshua Shaw and offensive lineman Ian Silberman.
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Hell Hath No Fury Like a Tennessee Fan Scorned: Lane Kiffin Runs Scared
Yep, Coach O started calling all of UTs early entrants and told them not to go to class today. That way they will not have to sit out a year. Incredibly classy, you recruit a kid to a school, he graduates from high school early giving up all the fun of a senior spring - no prom, etc. - then you move him to a new town and now you tell him to stop and think about his decision? I hope USC likes what they get, because there is no secret as to Kiffin or Orgeron's character now. Ken Kirkley MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:01 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Hell Hath No Fury Like a Tennessee Fan Scorned: Lane Kiffin Runs Scared I read that Ed Orgeron was calling them telling them not to go to class. from www.govols.com http://www.govols.com/ : Former Tennessee recruiting coordinator Ed Orgeron has contacted multiple UT mid-term enrollees and encouraged them not to attend class today so that they can easily leave UT and enroll at Southern California, multiple sources told the News Sentinel. Orgeron, who joined USC's staff when Lane Kiffin was hired as coach on Tuesday, did not immediately return a text message from the News Sentinel seeking comment. By attending class today, the nine mid-term enrollees, who have been at UT since Monday, would have to follow strict transfer rules, which include sitting out a year. It is unclear how many, or which, prospects Orgeron contacted. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:29 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I wonder what is going through the minds of the brand new recruits that just started classes on Monday? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Whether to invite Tim Tebow to draft
Many in the general public can't understand why the Heisman Trophy winner and three-time finalist may not be a top NFL pick, said ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay, who gets questions about it all the time. It has to do with Tebow's accuracy, how long it takes him to release the football, and the system he played in at Florida, he said. It's hard to believe and hard to explain, said McShay, who tabs Tebow as a third-round pick. He has been the face of college football for the last 2 1/2 years. Yeah, the reason they can't believe it is because you can't explain it. Tebow has accuracy issues? Really, the guy who set the all time NCAA pass efficiency mark? I agree his release time might be an issue, but I can point to many QBs with quick releases who suck and many with slow releases who are stars (Brett Favre, Steve Young anyone?) McShay is a tool and has no credible experience other than having an opinion. But because he works for ESPN, his word is gospel and he is the expert. Bleeegh. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:57 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Whether to invite Tim Tebow to draft http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2010-01-20/officials-m um-on-whether-invite-tim-tebow-draft Officials mum on whether to invite Tim Tebow to draft Liz Mullen, SportsBusiness Journal Bringing Florida quarterback Tim Tebow to New York for April's NFL draft could spur higher television ratings, but Gil Brandt, who advises the NFL on its invitations, won't say whether Tebow will be on the list. That's because Brandt, former head of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys, never says who he's inviting, especially this early. It has been the NFL's policy not to invite players who the league thinks could be sweating it out in the green room for hours, let alone days. And Tebow could very well sit well through the third round. Or he could be taken high in the first, depending on which NFL Draft web site, analysts or agents you go to for an answer. The draft will be broadcast over three days this year, starting with the first round in prime time Thursday, April 22, the second and third rounds in prime time Friday and the fourth through seventh rounds during the day Saturday. It will be broadcast on ESPN and NFL Network. The NFL, which invited about 10 players last year, may invite even more this year, said Jay Rothman, ESPN coordinating producer, who has overseen the draft for that network since 1995. I have been in meetings with the NFL already, and there is a push to give it more entertainment value, Rothman said. We have had dialogue about expanding the list of invitees to New York. The question is whether players will come or their agents will advise them not to go. Agents have told SportsBusiness Journal that they don't want their clients there if they don't go in the top 10. Tebow's agent, Jimmy Sexton, did not immediately respond to a call. In a brief interview earlier last week, Sexton confirmed he had signed Tebow for playing contract work. Tebow may select an additional agent for marketing. Sexton, a top agent for NFL players and coaches for 25 years, indicated it was one of the greatest career achievements for himself and his company, Memphis-based Athletic Resource Management, to represent Tebow. We think he will go very high in the first round, when it is all said and done, Sexton said. Many in the general public can't understand why the Heisman Trophy winner and three-time finalist may not be a top NFL pick, said ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay, who gets questions about it all the time. It has to do with Tebow's accuracy, how long it takes him to release the football, and the system he played in at Florida, he said. It's hard to believe and hard to explain, said McShay, who tabs Tebow as a third-round pick. He has been the face of college football for the last 2 1/2 years. Meanwhile, there is talk in the industry that Tebow could be close to a deal to be the face on the cover of EA Sports' NCAA College 2011 video game, which will be out this summer. Sandy Sandoval, senior director of athlete relations for EA Sports, said, I cannot confirm or deny that. This story, written by Liz Mullen, first appeared in SportsBusiness Journal, a sister publication of Sporting News. C 2009 SportingNews.com. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Walker helps UF win on road [Brockway]
I thought we played well, but were still undisciplined at times. This is a young team and hasn't learned how to play a full 40 minutes. I am concerned as the season goes on as to how fatigued they will be. I fear another February collapse. Having said that, this team is a lot more fun to watch than last year. They work well as a team when they are on, and as long as Macklin stays out of foul trouble they can be very good. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:36 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Walker helps UF win on road [Brockway] Did anyone watch the game last night? We actually played well. And, it was on the road in a hostile pig calling environment. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 Walker helps UF win on road http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100121Categ ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100129870Ref=ARProfile=1136MaxW=600border=0 The Associated Press Florida's Erving Walker drives around Arkansas' Marcus Britt during the second half in Fayetteville, Ark., on Thursday. By Kevin Brockway mailto:broc...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Staff writer Published: Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. - In a road game that Florida needed, sophomore guard Erving Walker and the rest of the Gators delivered. Three questions, three answers 1. Can the Florida starting backcourt of freshman Kenny Boynton and sophomore Erving Walker keep up their hot shooting in SEC play? Walker stayed hot, making 7-of-12 from the floor and 5-of-6 from 3-point range to put together a career-high 27-point performance. Boynton, on the other hand, was just 5-for-13 from the floor and 1-for-7 from 3-point range. But Walker provided enough production to lift the Gators to the road win. 2. How well can Florida limit the 3-point shooting of Arkansas sophomore guard Rotnei Clarke? Clarke was held in check early before heating up in the second half. He finished with 17 points on 5-of-9 shooting from 3-point range. But Florida did a decent job late in the game denying Clarke the basketball and forcing him into rushed shot attempts. 3. Can Florida get off to a good start on the road and take a tough visiting crowd at Bud Walton Arena out of the game? Florida shot just 28.6 percent in the first half but still held a 28-26 halftime lead. But in a hostile environment, Florida executed well late during a 9-0 run that extended its lead 64-56 with 2:53 left in the game. Walker scored a career-high 27 points and Florida was able to muscle its way to a 71-66 win over Arkansas before 14,173 at Bud Walton Arena. Walker had a terrific night, making 7-of-12 shots from the floor and 5-of-6 3-point attempts while dishing four assists with no turnovers. I've just been doing the same thing that I've been focusing on lately, just getting open looks and focusing on shots that work to my strength and not to my weakness, Walker said. Kenny Boynton added 13 points for Florida, and Alex Tyus posted his eighth career double-double with 11 points and 12 rebounds. Florida out-rebounded Arkansas 41-29 and scored 12 second-half points off 17 offensive rebounds. Our frontcourt struggled to score tonight but really did a good job getting us offensive rebounds, Florida coach Billy Donovan said. Said Tyus: We just wanted to come out active, flying around and go after the ball. Rotnei Clarke led four Arkansas players in double figures with 17 points. Freshman Marshawn Powell scored 14 points, center Michael Washington scored 11 points, and point guard Courtney Fortson had 14 points and 11 assists. Florida (13-5, 2-2 Southeastern Conference) evened its record in SEC play and will have a happy flight home Friday before facing South Carolina on Saturday at the O'Connell Center. It's huge for us, especially the way things started, Walker said. But we can't afford to let up because we know South Carolina is a good team. Florida led 67-58 when Walker hit his fifth 3-pointer of the game with 2:19 left. But Arkansas didn't go away. Fortson hit a 3-pointer to cut the Florida lead to 67-61. Then, after a Walker miss, Powell scored on an inside layup with 1:24 left that dwindled the Florida lead to 67-63. Tyus was then called for a travel with 46.3 seconds left and one second on the shot clock. But Powell missed a 3-point attempt, and UF forward Chandler Parsons grabbed the rebound and was fouled with 30.3 seconds remaining. Parsons made one of two free throws. After Fortson made one of two free throws at the other end, Walker made a pair of free throws with 19.3 seconds left to put the Gators ahead to stay, 70-64. Walker scored 15 points in the
RE: [gatortalk] RE: Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator
It's never to early to start recruiting a legacy. And, in fact, it has already started. Come on Kelvin, you know you are a Gator! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:02 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Is it too early to start recruiting this kid? He's only a freshman ... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/palm/fl-pb-gday-taylo r-1211-20091210,0,3032670.story Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor finishes 8th in Mr. Football voting by Jason Lieser The Florida Dairy Farmers officially announced former Dwyer star Matt Elam as 2009's Mr. Football this morning. Glades Day running back Kelvin Taylor, the Class 1B Player of the Year, finished eighth in the voting. Cocoa's John Wilkinson, who beat Glades Central for the Class 2A championship, won Coach of the Year. Taylor Taylor Elam Elam Despite the area producing three of the state's eight state championship teams, no local coaches won the award for their classifications, thus none of them were on the final ballot. Elam is Palm Beach County's third winner, following Pahokee's Anquan Boldin (1998) and Antone Smith (2004). Voting is done by statewide media and coaches. Here is the breakdown of the vote totals (1st place votes get 10 points, 2nd gets 7 and 3rd gets 6): Player 1st 2nd 3rd Points Matt Elam, Dwyer 12 2 1 140 Jeffrey Godfrey, Miami Central 2 5 5 85 Matt Younger, Cocoa 4 4 1 74 Quentin Williams, Tampa-Jefferson 0 4 3 46 Lemarcus Joyner, St. Thomas Aquinas 2 1 3 45 Ronald Jones, Fort Meade 0 1 1 13 Garrett Hammett, Callahan-West Nassau 0 0 2 12 Kelvin Taylor, Glades Day 0 0 1 6 (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.usimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [gatortalk] Anybody hearing anything on why Tyler Murphy ?
I for one am thrilled with Burton, he wants to be a Gator (unlike some of our other committed/not-committed players) and is an incredible ball player. I think Murphy is being recruited as an athlete. The Tebow version of the spread offense has scared away the elite, traditional drop back passers. With Brantley at the helm the next two years, you will see a more prototypical QB and the elite prospects will once again line up. Have faith. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:02 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody hearing anything on why Tyler Murphy ? Nobody is thrilled with Trey Burton (3 stars), much less Tyler Murphy (2 stars). I don't understand these picks by Scot Loeffler ? Can anyone else make sense of them? Tebow was 5 stars, Brantley was high 4 stars - just missed 5 stars. Cam Newton was high 4 stars I think -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator
We will, he is a legacy so you know we will push hard. I'm not big on offering this early, let the kid play a little bit. He is obviously good, but is his OL all seniors this year or is he really that good? I believe he is really that good, but there is plenty of time for it all to play out. We just need to get Fred to tell his son, UF is the place to be! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:33 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator As a freshman in high school he wins high school athlete of the year ... Have we offered this kid yet? HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE OF THE YEAR Kelvin Taylor, Glades Day football. In 14 games, had 295 carries, 2,601 yards, and 49 touchdowns. Scored four touchdowns in Gators' Class 1B championship victory. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!
Most of the club sports get some funding from the university. Some use that for coaching stipends, others for travel or training needs. I played Lacrosse at UF and we had two coaches that received stipends, our jerseys were paid for and the officials, etc all came out of the student activity fees. Now of course, that was 20+ years ago, so never mind. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:17 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! i dunno if UF hired him.. but yes they have a coach.. not sure he even gets paid to be honest... I doubt its totally volunteer. They do have sponsors... ive thoughta bout seeing if the gatornet peeps wanted to gather funds to be a sponsor... but wasnt sure anyone would be up for it On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: Coach? They have a coach hired by UF? I've always thought they were a club team, like the Tri-Gators Triathlon team. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:03:30 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! Actually I think its Ice Gators.. but that close! :) and ACTUALLY (AE)... the Tampa Bay Lightning are Stanley Cup Champs lol im really impressed by what this new coach has done with this team.. and when I saw them when they were here a couple of years ago... i thought they were really in a division lower than they should be. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net wrote: Who would've ever believed that a FLORIDA Ice Hockey team would be competitive? Go Polar Gators! :-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gainesville-FL/University-of-Florida-Gators-I ce-Hockey/29341676825?ref=nf University of Florida Gators Ice Hockey With 14.5 seconds left in the 3rd period and only only 14 seconds after Loyola tied the game at 2, the Gators score to continue their win streak to 16 games and secure a bid to the 2010 National Tournament which will be held March 10-13 in Estero, FL. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!
They don't work for free. And I'm not sure I would want to play in a game where they did! Being an official can be quite a lucrative hobby, here in MN I can get $125 for each game I referee, 3-4 games on a Saturday and I can go buy a new tool for my shop! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:00 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! You PAID the OFFICIALS? I thought only f$u did THAT! :-( Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! Most of the club sports get some funding from the university. Some use that for coaching stipends, others for travel or training needs. I played Lacrosse at UF and we had two coaches that received stipends, our jerseys were paid for and the officials, etc all came out of the student activity fees. Now of course, that was 20+ years ago, so never mind. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:17 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! i dunno if UF hired him.. but yes they have a coach.. not sure he even gets paid to be honest... I doubt its totally volunteer. They do have sponsors... ive thoughta bout seeing if the gatornet peeps wanted to gather funds to be a sponsor... but wasnt sure anyone would be up for it On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: Coach? They have a coach hired by UF? I've always thought they were a club team, like the Tri-Gators Triathlon team. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:03:30 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! Actually I think its Ice Gators.. but that close! :) and ACTUALLY (AE)... the Tampa Bay Lightning are Stanley Cup Champs lol im really impressed by what this new coach has done with this team.. and when I saw them when they were here a couple of years ago... i thought they were really in a division lower than they should be. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net wrote: Who would've ever believed that a FLORIDA Ice Hockey team would be competitive? Go Polar Gators! :-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gainesville-FL/University-of-Florida-Gators-I ce-Hockey/29341676825?ref=nf University of Florida Gators Ice Hockey With 14.5 seconds left in the 3rd period and only only 14 seconds after Loyola tied the game at 2, the Gators score to continue their win streak to 16 games and secure a bid to the 2010 National Tournament which will be held March 10-13 in Estero, FL. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website
RE: [gatortalk] ARGH!
Bad game all around. The refs were terrible, didn't cost us the game, but they were terribly inconsistent. The team wasn't ready for this game and that is unfortunate, this a win against Vandy and 2 in the tournament would've moved us up to a 7 seed in the tourney. Now we are probably looking at a 9 or 10. This is a bad loss, I don't care that Ugh plays well at home, we should have destroyed them, but had no heart. At this point, I am hoping to be the 4 seed in the SEC tourney, that way we won't be in UKs bracket until the championship game. Let's go, Beat Vandy! _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:22 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! Nope, I'm wearing royal. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:15:36 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! Me, too... but I'm not about to put on anything black right now! Cee - Original Message - From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com Talk Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! I'm in mourning. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:00:29 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! It was those ugly uniforms that did it. They're BLACK? Well, no wonder we lost. Cee - Original Message - From: Cecilia mailto:gator...@bellsouth.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! Awesome comeback in progress... just hoping the right team comes out on top! Cee - Original Message - From: Jerry Belloit mailto:bell...@clarion.edu To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] ARGH! This is embarrassing! Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hood Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:06 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH! Florida Georgia will always be Florida Georgia...no matter what the sport... Go Gators !!! Bill _ From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:31:14 -0500 To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] ARGH! This game is killin' me. And I hate the Gators' ugly dark uniforms. Navy blue is an Auburn color, not a Florida color. If we lose this game, I'm blaming it on those hideous uniforms. Cee -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football
RE: [gatortalk] Weather
39o here in Minnesota. It is Spring! Woo hoo! Can’t wait until June when the lawn goes from white to green. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatorr Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:57 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Weather 19 days. Oh and we are due for sleet/snow mix on tues. Woody (via iPhone) On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net wrote: IS IT SPRING YET? Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:21 AM To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Weather And 50° in Jax with a high of 62° expected... and a low of 39° tonight! Cee - Original Message - From: J. Fran mailto:jfr...@earthlink.net Lasseter To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Weather And 48.2 in Daytona Beach. Dang! What is going on? Fran 70? In Washington? You should still be buried under a foot of snow! What’s wrong with this picture? 70 in Washington – 39 in Tennessee? Randy From: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Hartley-McBride Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:31 PM To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Cc: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Bobsled Gator Temps are really nice here! It hit 70 degrees today. Spring is here!! Randy, come visit and thaw out a bit! (-: Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2010, at 16:19, Gatornet Admin mailto:gator...@comcast.net gator...@comcast.net wrote: I’m sick of sitting here stoking the fire in the fireplace and shivering while I watch all those people on the cliff walking around in tank tops and sweating! :-( Randy From: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:00 PM To: mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Bobsled Gator I'm tired of watching the ebb tide in Hilo Bay. Is that Gator Bobsled dude on the Olympics tonight? John -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve
RE: [gatortalk] Final score tomorrow
UF 77 UK 73 It's a done deal. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:48 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Final score tomorrow Anybody who nails the final score, I'll send you a $25 Publix Gift card. I'll make it $50. You gotta get both teams right. If you only get one team right, that doesn't count. I say Kentucky 81, UF 69 John -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Deonte Thompson learns an important lesson - Don't say anything that can be remotely construed as negative about Tim Tebow
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Ben Volin is one of the most 'gotcha' journalists out there. He is always looking for a story that isn't there, for instance who is the one that went back through all the court records to find every arrest or ticket issued? Who then wrote an article comparing it to other schools in much larger cities? Ben Volin is a piece of work. Deonte Thompson learns an important lesson - Don't say anything that can be remotely construed as negative about Tim Tebow by Ben Volin Steve Spurrier learned an important lesson last summer. Chad Henne learned it last week, and now it's Deonte Thompson's turn: Don't say anything that could even be remotely construed as negative or a slight toward Tim Tebow. Media and fans will pounce. Thompson, a product of Belle Glade and entering his red-shirt junior season, finds himself as the subject of controversy and derision for comments he gave after yesterday's spring practice that he's excited about working with John Brantley, whom he called a real quarterback. The answer, frankly, is no. But that doesn't stop the Gotcha journalists and bloggers from pouncing. _ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatornews+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RE: [gatortalk] So TT posed at least liek 400-500 times just at the Jax photo thingy?
At $165 a pop, I would have the patience of Jobe too! There are a couple of pictures in there though that are certainly a waste of the money. Bummer if you blinked. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:54 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] So TT posed at least liek 400-500 times just at the Jax photo thingy? http://picasaweb.google.com/PBAutographs/TimTebowJacksonvillePhotos# http://picasaweb.google.com/PBAutographs/TimTebowJacksonvillePhotos Oh boy...the patience this kid has! -BadMan -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator
Outside of knowing how to use the English language, I bet Bob Tebow knows that Mike Shanahan is the coach of the 'Skins.. Tebow's father told a Jacksonville television director this week that his son will be taken before the 16th pick. No clue where Bob came up with that number. Maybe he know something we don't. Perhaps. Or maybe he's just trying to put a little pressure on Jacksonville, which has the 10th overall pick. Either way, it's interesting that Bob Tebow would make such a statement. When asked if Jacksonville might trade down and take Tebow later in the first round, Bob Tebow said, He'll be gone. Somebody is going to take him. Tebow has worked out privately for several NFL teams, including the Washington Redskins. The Redskins have the fourth overall pick. It would be the draft shock of the last decade if new 'Skins vice president and coach Bill Shanahan took Tebow at four. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juno Gator Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:50 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator Is Tim Tebow a top 15 pick? GAINESVILLE -- Former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow will be in Palm Beach Gardens at 1 p.m. on Saturday signing autographs at The Gardens Mall. Should you make the drive north to see Timmy? Bring your pocket book if you're interested. Tebow is selling his signature for $160 a pop. Photos with Tim are $75. Tebow has been making the autograph circuit lately and making some pretty good cash doing it after signing a contract with an memorabilia company. Of course, Tebow hopes to become a millionaire on the first day of the NFL Draft. Will it happen? The pundits say no. Bob Tebow says yes. Tebow's father told a Jacksonville television director this week that his son will be taken before the 16th pick. No clue where Bob came up with that number. Maybe he know something we don't. Perhaps. Or maybe he's just trying to put a little pressure on Jacksonville, which has the 10th overall pick. Either way, it's interesting that Bob Tebow would make such a statement. When asked if Jacksonville might trade down and take Tebow later in the first round, Bob Tebow said, He'll be gone. Somebody is going to take him. Tebow has worked out privately for several NFL teams, including the Washington Redskins. The Redskins have the fourth overall pick. It would be the draft shock of the last decade if new 'Skins vice president and coach Bill Shanahan took Tebow at four. Many think the idea of Tebow being drafted in the first round is preposterous. I'm not one of those people. He is worth the risk when you take into account his work ethic, leadership abilities and fan following. He's durable, he's a lightning rode of positive emotions, he makes the people around him better and the guy is already more marketable than most of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Oh, and did I mention he started three seasons for the University of Florida, graduated with honors, beat Sam Bradford head-to-head in the 2009 national championship game and was statistically one of the most efficient passers in college football. News flash: NFL teams like efficiency. If his father is correct, and Tebow will be gone after the 15th pick, here's where I think Tebow will be drafted. If Jacksonville doesn't take him with the 10th pick then Tebow will go to Seattle at 14. Go ahead, call me crazy, but Pete Carroll is starting over in Seattle and I'd be willing to bet he'd like to do it with Tebow. -jo- Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gator_clause/2010/03/is-tim-tebow-a-top-15-pi ck.html#ixzz0jNsYVynM -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatornews+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RE: [gatortalk] Duke-Butler score predictions
If Duke scores 64, they win. Butler's only hope is to keep it very low scoring. Duke 72-59. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:50 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Duke-Butler score predictions Let's get some score predictions in tonight. I predict Tiger Woods will not score (in the sack) this weekend. Nyuk, nuyk. I say Butler puts on the Glass Slipper at midnight, sending the Dookies home, 65-64. Anyone else? Johnny -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football
Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren't that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren't that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won't win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That's really not that great considering they're one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting. that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews retired. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: ke...@baldwinnc.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Heh. that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He's the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!! We're not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hoping-for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses-QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez-are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the Tebow package in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu]
Ahhh, beach balls. I worked at Radio Shack while going to UF (yes, I was that cool!), they ran a promo every year where you could buy a beach ball for a quarter. I used to take the leftovers to football and basketball games until about '86 when they threw me and my balls out. They even stopped throwing the newspapers on the floor at the basketball games around the same time. Anyone remember the guy that would sweep the floor doing the dance? _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu] .and then beach balls. Flag on the play. That's over the top. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:39 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu] This is outrageous! What's next - banning paper fights and alcohol! Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu] From: Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com Date: Fri, April 16, 2010 8:26 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Eye-black messages banned Rob C. Witzel / Sun file photo Florida quarterback Tim Tebow greets players after the Gators' 62-3 win over Charleston Southern while sporting the bible verse Proverbs 3:5 which according to the New King James Version says Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding. By Robbie Andreu mailto:andr...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Staff writer Published: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. Last Modified: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. Tim Tebow started a college football tradition the past few years by writing Bible verses on his eye black for each game. But that tradition is over - and not just because Tebow has graduated from the University of Florida. On Thursday, the NCAA banned eye-black messages. During his UF career, Tebow had thousands of fans looking up the Bible verses during and after each Gator game. When he wrote John 3:16 on his eye black for the 2008 national championship game against Oklahoma, Google experienced about 94 million searches for the verse. The NCAA on Thursday also banned wedge blocks. Also, taunting in the field of play will start costing teams points in 2011. The NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved the three rules changes. One year after the NFL banned wedge blocking on kickoffs because of safety concerns, the NCAA followed the lead. The new rule says that when the team receiving a kickoff has more than two players standing within two yards of one another, shoulder to shoulder, it will be assessed a 15-yard penalty - even if there is no contact between the teams. The reason: NCAA studies have shown that 20 percent of all injuries occurring on kickoffs result in concussions. Everybody is looking to make sure we have a safe environment for the players, said Grant Teaff, executive director of the American Football Coaches Association. On kickoffs, you have a lot of steam on both sides and you usually have what is called a 'wedge buster.' This will eliminate some of that. The hope is it will reduce concussions, an issue that has received greater attention over the past year. The NCAA deemed it so important that it made a rare rules change in an off-year of the normal two-year process. But it's the taunting rule that will create the biggest buzz. Currently, players who are penalized for taunting on their way to the end zone draw a 15-yard penalty on the extra-point attempt, 2-point conversion attempt or the ensuing kickoff. Beginning in 2011, live-ball penalties will be assessed from the spot of the foul and eliminate the score. Examples include players finishing touchdown runs by high-stepping into the end zone or pointing the ball toward an opponent. Celebration penalties following a score will continue to be assessed on conversion attempts or the ensuing kickoff. I think one of the reasons it's been looked at is that when a penalty occurs on the field, it's normally taken from the spot, Teaff said. This was the only occurrence that it wasn't taken from the spot, so they wanted to change that. Taunting has caused an annual debate among college football players, coaches and fans, and last season's big controversy stemmed from Georgia receiver A.J. Green receiving a 15-year personal foul penalty after he caught a go-ahead touchdown pass late in a game against LSU. The yardage from the penalty was assessed on the kickoff and helped LSU get into position to drive for the winning score. Southeastern Conference officials said later that there was no video evidence to support the flag on Green. A third change bans the use of eye black containing symbols or messages, a trend that
[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Oh ... what could have been
Big difference, when Vince went to UNC you didn't expect him to be a one and done, that one hurt. This one is different. Knight will absolutely be a one and done and as such wanted assurances from his coach that he would be a starter and have x minutes of playing time. Billy D was never and will never promise any player minimum playing time much less a starting role. Meanwhile, Gillespie has made a career out of one and dones. Of course, he has taken 2 teams to the final four, but never to a national championship, that requires solid upperclass leadership which his teams never seem to have. Also, is it a coincidence that both programs he took to the final 4 had to vacate their tourney wins and final 4 after he left due to NCAA violations? Give hime 4 years at UK and he will have worn out his welcome and head off to the NBA. _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juno Gator Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:42 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] Oh ... what could have been Why does this recruiting result remind me of when Vince Carter opted for North Carolina . Kentucky gets a special kid . who plays ball, too Brandon Knight leaves a legacy at Pine Crest Ethan J. Skolnick Sports columnist FORT LAUDERDALE - Brandon Knight hardly needed a recommendation, let alone a glowing one, to earn admission into any college in America. A repeat Florida Mr. Basketball and Gatorade National Player of the Year? No need to waste time and trees. Son, just show up and start shooting. Yet this is what colleges got, if they cared to read it. They got an English Honors III teacher raving about Brandon's perfect articulation in reading Shakespeare, and describing the stillness of the room as his peers listened in rapt attention to his Macbeth soliloquy. They got an Advanced Placement statistics teacher recalling all the times he would stay for extra help, even it meant missing dinner before a game. They got his college counselor gushing, A finer Pine Crest student I cannot imagine. So that's what Kentucky is getting, along with arguably the greatest basketball player Broward County http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/ has ever produced, someone with skills to match those of other point guards (Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, John Wall) John Calipari has recently coached. They're getting someone who has a 4.3 grade-point average, someone physics teacher Naeemah Owens would love to clone, someone who would ask for further explanation about the one question missed on a test, not because he wanted the points, but just so he could understand. They're getting one of the most special student-athletes this area has ever seen. Knight made his announcement Wednesday afternoon in the standing-room-only Stacy Auditorium. The clapping began at 3:58, then silence, then whispers, then a boy turning to his mother to tell her not to cough, then silence again, all as Efrem and Tonya Knight slid their chairs slightly forward on stage, and Brandon listened through an earpiece to questions coming from a studio in Bristol, Conn. The place where I plan to play my college basketball. He fumbled under the table for the hat that would reveal the secret his mother had kept for about a month, even as she wanted to scream it to all who asked. .is the University of Kentucky. That was followed by 52 seconds of cheering, whistling and a we love you or two - from teammates, classmates, teachers, administrators, children and even a family that had flown down from Lexington, actually arranging a weeklong South Florida vacation around this sacred event. It was the obvious choice for him, said Mike Rankin, 35, wearing a Wildcats T-shirt. When he goes to Kentucky, he'll be a rock star. Instantly, Internet surfers started questioning the decision, wondering why such a strong student would play for a controversial coach who specializes in one-and-doners. That was my initial reaction, too. Why not go to, say, Duke? But Knight will get more out of one year of education, wherever, than most college students would get from four. As he told ESPNU, Your mind is going to last you a lot longer than your legs, so I feel I have to try to get my education so I can be ready for life after basketball. And if it's just one year, for now? His mother won't mind. You know what, everybody's goal in life is to live their dream, whether you want to be a lawyer, an NBA player or whatever, Tonya Knight said. If he has an opportunity to go the NBA, and that's his dream, why not live it? With the AP classes, he'll walk in with 20-something credits already. Get one year out of the way, maybe the summers, you know what, he can do the rest online. As she spoke,15 minutes after the announcement, giddy children in green school uniforms had formed a line, all holding something for him to sign. He took a photo with a much bigger kid, a school security officer, who
RE: [gatortalk] Question about taunting rule
This rule wouldn't have affected the '07 dawg pile. They did that after they scored and were penalized for 2 personal fouls. My understanding is this rule is only for taunting during live action (high stepping into the endzone, pointing at the player, etc.) once you cross into the endzone, live action stops and it becomes a dead ball penalty. Am I missing something? -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:41 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Question about taunting rule I agree that it's ridiculous. So many of these refs can't tell the difference between a taunt and a celebration. I'd say the 2007 Georgia end zone dance was definitely a collective taunt. Players should have been ejected for that. But just wait. Some player will thrust his fist in the air as he crosses the goal line, with no opposing player in sight, and he'll be flagged for a taunt. This gives the refs way too much discretion, and credit. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:11:24 To: Gatortalkgatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Question about taunting rule Sooo.. question... will the taunting rule include the chomp? On SportsNation on ESPN just now.. they said the score will be negated for even high stepping into the end zone. Personally i think this rule is ridiculous... talk about nanny state. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/gatortalk/subscribe?hl=en -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early
Burton will be a freshman this year, Driskel will most likely redshirt in 2011, giving them 2 years separation. Perfect. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:49 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early Assuming Brantley stays next year, Burton keeps progressing like he did over the spring, Burton concentrates only on football, and Driskel splits time between football and baseball, but Driskel is a better QB than Burton coming out of high school hard to predict who will have the advantage when Brantley leaves Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early From: Badrish dbadr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:29 am To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early Oviedo Hagerty QB Jeff Driskel, shown above at the Elite 11 QB camp in February, has made official his commitment to the Florida Gators. He will enroll at UF in January. (Photo by Chris Hays/Orlando Sentinel / February 14, 2010) By Chris Hays | Orlando Sentinel 12:29 a.m. EDT, April 20, 2010 Oviedo Hagerty QB Jeff Driskel http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-recruiting-jeff-driskel-photo-bio, 0,7862483.photo says he knew he wanted to be a Florida Gator. And even after sitting on it for a week, he still said he was sure enough to announce his decision to commit to the University of Florida on Monday. Driskel made a trip to Gainesville on Thursday to tell Florida coaches Urban Meyer, Scot Loeffler and Steve Addazio that he had made his decision. I told them what I was thinking, Driskel said, and then I went back home and kind of re-evaluated everything and talked to my parents and I knew I wanted to be a Gator, so I let it go public today. (Meyer) was just happy to have me and he wanted me to go back and work with my high school team get some more wins, Driskel added. He said he was happy to have me as part of the Gators. News started to circulate around the internet recruiting Web sites Monday afternoon that Driskel, the No. 12 quarterback in the nation for 2011 according to Scout.com, had picked Florida. Driskel, who also plays baseball at Hagerty and plans to play both sports at UF, sent a text after baseball practice Monday that read, Yea, I committed. Hagerty football coach Nate Gierke was happy to see Driskel comfortable with his decision and was assured by Driskel that he wouldn't be changing his mind. Yes that's confirmed, he actually did that last week but he wanted to make sure and Urban (Meyer) and the coaching staff up there wanted him to make sure that's what he wanted to do, Gierke said. So he talked to his parents and went over it with them and re-evaluated the situation and that's when he decided to go ahead and make it official. When he first told me about it today, he said, 'Yes, that's what I want to do. Why wait?' Driskel (6-4, 220), the No. 5-ranked player in the Sentinel's 2011 Central Florida Super60 and top Orlando-area QB, has pretty much been the only quarterback Hagerty fans have ever known. The fifth-year school has played varsity football only three seasons and Driskel has started as QB in 28 of the 30 games. The Huskies have won five games in those three seasons, but Gierke said people read too much into those numbers. We're such a young program here that it's really hard to evaluate someone on just the victories, Gierke said. But this is a big deal for us, pretty special. He's the first D-I prospect from the program and it couldn't happen to a better kid. He's a special player and I am certainly happy for him. Driskel threw for 1,427 yards and 11 touchdowns last season, completing exactly 50 percent of his passes (105-210). He also rushed for six TDs and his ability to run can be very deceiving for the big-framed quarterback. He's clocked a 4.5 40-yard dash and doesn't mind tucking the ball up the field if a play breaks down. For his career at Hagerty, Driskel has thrown for 3,021 passsing yards and 34 total touchdowns (21 passing, 13 rushing). I'm glad I got it over with, Driskel said. I'm really excited. It's one of the best programs in the nation if not the best. Even though it's early and National Signing Day is still 10 months away (Feb. 2, 2010), the constant recruiting process was beginning to wear on him. It was hectic, he said. There was a period there where I was talking to guys every night and offers were just pouring in. It was crazy and fun at the same time, but I'm happy to say it's over. Now he can focus on his senior season. Spring football across Florida starts May 1. It's going to be a little bit easier in spring practice now to be able to focus on my high
RE: [gatortalk] Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game?
He was at the stadium and met with recruits and players beforehand. I don't think he ever was in the stands as he wanted to avoid being a public distraction. Of course, if I were Jo Goodman - the story would be, Tebow angry at Meyer for not preparing him for NFL - distances himself from Gator program' Ken K. MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:00 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game? Didn't I read that he was in the stands talking to some recruits, then left because he didn't want to upstage Brantley? Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: ke...@baldwinnc.com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:25:37 -0700 To: gatortalk googlegroupsGatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game? Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/gatortalk/subscribe?hl=en -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: Tebow aims to make Broncos look good for picking him [Associated Press]
#10 as in 2010 Draftee. He will wear 15 in Denver. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cathryn Lasky Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:27 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: Tebow aims to make Broncos look good for picking him [Associated Press] Did anyone else notice he's holding a #10 jersey?!? Is that going to be his Bronco's #?? Why not #15? On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Shane Ford wrote: Tebow aims to make Broncos look good for picking him http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100424/ARTICLES/100429684/1136?p=allt c=pgall The Associated Press Tim Tebow meets the media in Denver on Friday. The Associated Press Published: Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 6:01 a.m. Last Modified: Friday, April 23, 2010 at 7:07 p.m. ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - Tim Tebow looked out the foggy window as his weather-delayed flight dropped through the dark clouds and descended into Centennial Airport on Friday afternoon. He saw the snow-covered city, the wind-whipped pines and the snarled traffic and thought, there's just no better place he could have landed to begin his NFL career. The southpaw shotgun quarterback who helped Florida win two national titles said he's determined to repay coach Josh McDaniels for making him the surprise No. 25 pick of the Denver Broncos. I can't be more thankful for him deciding to take me, Tebow said at his introductory news conference Friday. That will be one of my biggest goals is proving him right and making him proud. McDaniels tutored three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady in New England, helped Matt Cassel become an NFL starter and guided Kyle Orton to his best statistical season of his career in Denver last year. The work that he's done with the quarterbacks that he's been around, the influence that he's made on them in their careers has been amazing, Tebow said. I'm just blessed to play for him. I think he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. I firmly believe that. I'm drawn to him, too, because he's so passionate. I think that's going to bring out a lot of things about me and my character and my excitement for football and excitement for life, Tebow added. We were both talking about how we can't sleep we're so excited. In Tebow, McDaniels has a big project on his hands in maybe the most intriguing pro prospect since Michael Vick. This is the Heisman Trophy winner who some called the greatest college player ever. Now he is an NFL enigma, a big question mark because of his throwing motion and the offense he ran at Florida. Last week, McDaniels raved about the left-handed Tebow, who has developed a new passing motion that allows him to drop back with the ball at his shoulder instead of near his hip and release it quicker. Tebow said eliminating the loop or backswing in his motion only took a matter of weeks and now he's adjusting his footwork for the three-, five- and seven-stop drops he'll be making in the NFL. Some scouts think it could take two years for Tebow to make the transition from combination college quarterback to prototypical pocket passer. Others argue his success in college, his passion for football and his work ethic will make the transition smoother and shorter. A work in progress either way, Tebow is looking up at Orton and Brady Quinn on the quarterback depth chart while the smart money has him spending his rookie season running some wildcat plays while honing his game to play more in 2011. Well, I look at it as I am a prototypical quarterback, Tebow insisted. I like to do the things that a regular quarterback does, and then I'm blessed with athletic ability to do extra things. That's how I look at it. ... I'm going to be a regular quarterback, a pocket quarterback and I'm going to work and try to be great at that. That is my goal, I want to be a great pocket passer, and that's something I'm working on. Tebow said he's been proving critics wrong his whole athletic life, so he's not bothered by all the critics who questioned Denver taking him in the first round while more polished passers Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen were available. I love a challenge and I love when somebody tells me that I can't because it just pushes me that much more, Tebow said. Tebow said he's selected jersey No. 15, which became available when the Broncos traded Pro Bowl wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Miami. The Broncos replaced Marshall by taking wide receiver Demaryius Thomas of Georgia Tech with the 22nd overall pick Thursday night. Thomas said he thinks he convinced the Broncos they should select him in part because I'm a good guy. Thomas said living with his uncle, James Brown, a preacher, after his mother and grandmother were incarcerated on drug charges when he was 12, is what set him on the right path. He said he spoke with his mother, Shirley Brown, on the phone Friday morning. They watched last night, Thomas said. She just said she
RE: [gatortalk] ~~Hi~~
Oh, That's what they meant by HI -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Fletcher Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:45 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ~~Hi~~ I'll be the fearless one with a virus-proof linux VM. Just an ad for Canadian pharmaceuticals... particularly the kind that make your maple leaf stand up. -Sean On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Bill Hileman wrote: I ain't clicking that with a ten-foot mouse, and I don't suggest anyone else does, either. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:21 PM To: benzodo...@yahoo.com; carol1...@gmail.com; ces1...@yahoo.com; ces1...@gmail.com; dontowncarle...@yahoo.com; gatortalk@googlegroups.com; holly...@gmail.com; hollyg...@yahoo.com; xtnsupp...@gmail.com Subject: [gatortalk] ~~Hi~~ Importance: Low http://sites.google.com/site/bochkabublik/fasw1l -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.usWilliam D Hileman.vcf -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles helmets (was Football king in South, in spring [Andreu])
BAN HIM! ;) :-) _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:54 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles helmets (was Football king in South, in spring [Andreu]) OOPS! Sorry, boss, I replied before I saw your reply. ;-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:14 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles helmets (was Football king in South, in spring [Andreu]) Since the Gator connection here is tenuous at best, let's Helen Rule this conversation. We all love Randy and want him to stick around for a long time, but I can see this discussion venturing into THFGT territory, where, by the way, you all can feel free to discuss it at length. (See - I'm not asleep at the wheel!) Steve --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Arthur Polhill lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote: Wild Turkey Slams Into Motorcyclist's Face 42-Year-Old Woman Becomes Entangled In Barbed-Wired Fence NUFF SAID! -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars
Sigh. the off season. Come on, at least speculate that Urban wouldn't have had so much stress if he had been driving fast in a sports car. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:12 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars plus insurance rates were outrageous so there are a few benefits to getting rid of it Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 8:05 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Yeah, I know what you mean, but although I HAVE gotten pulled over more than usual, they see my age and then just warn me. :-) Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:58 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars I had a sports car many years ago - had a lot of fun - but was glad to get rid of it. I got pulled over ALL the time - even though I tried to always drive perfect When I switched to a old person's car - I drove like an idiot - and never got pulled Original Message Subject: RE: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 7:39 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Mine is an '05 4.0 with a 5-speed. I have enjoyed it more than any car I've ever owned. I will miss it, but given the choice to keep it or my bike - my bike is getting a new paint job! :) Randy -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [ http://email05.secureserver.net/#Compose mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy OH, MAN! I'm sorry, dude! I also hate to hear you have to get rid of a Mustang. I used to have a '95 GT before I had kids and I loved that car! Man, it was so much fun to drive. What year is yours? Have you seen the '11 coming out? SUH-WEET!! Take care, SHANE -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:27:46 PM GMT-0400 Subject: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy Unfortunately, while you are putting one ON your car, I'll be taking mine off soon. In an attempt to cut costs, Sprint is issuing us company cars, so I'll be selling the 'stang soon. My wife still has hers, but my company car (2010 Fusion) will have just the plain Tennessee tag. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [ http://email05.secureserver.net/#Compose mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:13 AM To: Gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy Attached is a photo of my new Gator Toy. I've been wanting one of these very badly for many years, so it was very exciting for me to finally get one fo these bad boys. I am able to join a very elite group of Gator fans here in TN by proudly displaying our Gator pride on the back of our cars in all kinds of weather, enjoying the pissed off stares and head shakes from all of the Vols fans. I wanted to share my joy with you guys, because other than Oliver, my wife, and my kids, no one else seems to be able to enjoy it. :-) My Dad even just shook his head in disbelief. I told him that if they lose a big game, I can't take it off my car like some fans do. To me, it's the next closest thing to a tattoo, for a guy who will never consider one. :-) THANKS, SHANE GO GATORS!! Deep in V-aw-ls Country. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at http://www.gatornet.us/ www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON
[gatortalk] Billy...
Calipari to the Nets with LeBron. Billy to UK. Done deal. It is imminent. Ken MNGator ;) -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF
So, does that mean you don't have conversations with passengers in your car, or sing along with the radio? Those are equally as distracting.. This might be heading to too hot. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF It's not just your hands and eyes that you should be worried about, though. Even talking while using a Bluetooth creates a distraction for drivers. You know darn well that your brain can be seeing something completely different if you're engaged in a phone conversation instead of giving your full concentration to the road. Sure, it's marginally better than having to drive with your pinkies while using your thumbs to text and looking down at the phone screen (or over it to see the road peripherally)... but the difference really is only marginal according to what I've read. Your brain is still the most important body part to use while you're driving, and you should be focusing as much of it as possible on your driving and not on phone conversations. So don't call me while I'm driving because I won't answer you! :-P~~~ Cee - Original Message - From: Randy mailto:gatorspo...@comcast.net Lyons To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF That's why I silence my Blackberry while driving. My Bluetooth, however, still tells me when a call is coming in, and just simply reaching up and pressing a button on it will answer the call. A Bluetooth is also handy for making a call to a number in your address book. Just push the button, and at the prompt, say Call Leon Polhill mobile and it dials the number for me. Hand is never away from the wheel for more than a couple of seconds, and eyes are NEVER off of the road. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:53 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF While I was just taking advantage of another of the many opportunities to give Randy grief, I would have to agree that this is a grave problem. Fatalities are increasing exponentially as a result of texting while driving. It's very tempting to do when the mobile is buzzing on the highway. The result is immediate disaster. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Charlie ces1...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:34:42 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF The ones that are texting while driving are a real hoot. I was behind a guy the other day going 20 mph in a 45 mph zone. When I finally got around him I glanced over and he was just texting away, thumbs were flying. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lyons Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:22 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF Sorry. It's just my latest soapbox. I actually DO have a sense of humor, but observing drivers weaving while looking down or oblivious to the traffic around them because they are engrossed in a cell phone conversation is becoming alarming. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:47 AM To: Gator Talk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF Then, there are those who have no sense of humor. They usually become mail-list administrators. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:38:22 -0400 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF You shouldn't TOUCH your cell phone while driving. Use a Bluetooth and if your cell phone doesn't support voice commands, upgrade to one that does. My cell phone stays in it's holster while I'm driving. I check email/text messages when I stop. Distracted driving is killing people. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:07 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF You shouldn't e-mail and drive eith Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:05:01 + To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF Thanks again, Leon. I hope you and Paula enjoy the tour of the southwest, and are able to post when the mood strikes you. Just remember: don't text and drive. By the way, if you're there, watch out for the speed traps between Albuquerque and Santa Fe.
[gatortalk] Re: Non-Gator Related
Cpngratulations Randy! I have been through several 'wilderness' experiences and will be taking your place on this one soon. Effective July 1, I am back on the street. At least I will have time to spend with the kids over summer! Ken K. _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:47 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Non-Gator Related I'm not trying to start a non-gator related thread, and the ONLY reason I'm mentioning it here is because several months ago a large number of us participated in a thread relating to the mass of layoffs that has hit our country. Many of us here on Gatornet had been affected either directly or indirectly by the layoffs, and I indicated that I was one of the casualties, having been laid off twice during 2008. Well, the first layoff for me occurred in March of last year and it was by Sprint, which I have said was the best job I ever had. I loved working for Sprint, loved my job, loved my teams, blah, blah, blah. Do you get the picture? Mushy, I know, but true. Anyway, being laid-off by Sprint affected me traumatically, and I never really recovered from it. Even though I was hired for a short time as a corporate controller, the economy forced them to outsource their financials for 25% of my salary and I was laid off again in October. All in all, 2008 was not a very good year for me or thousands of other people. I know I wasn't the only one going through it. I think I'm rambling, so let me try to get to my point. This past Thursday, after over a week of negotiations (no, I'm not a union guy - it just seemed to be the appropriate word to use), I received an offer from Sprint to resume my previous position beginning Monday and with a substantial raise. I am going from managing 17 sales teams to 26 sales teams, which will, of course, keep me pretty busy and on the road, but after spending the last 7 months at home, I WANT to be busy and I WANT to be on the road! To say I'm happy would be understating it. I'm actually quite giddy. I feel like a young Randy and the best looking girl at school just asked me to take her to the prom. It was TOTALLY unexpected and an incredible rush of validation. After months and months of doubting my own self-worth, I realize now that it wasn't me at all. I just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That wrong place was on a list of what some economics expert determined was expendable positions. Many of us here have been together for over 15 years, so I consider you good friends even though we might actually only see each other once every 5-6 years. I just wanted to share my good news with you, and hopefully the moderator won't chastise me for this being non-gator related. :) Oh, did I mention I can't wait for Monday morning? It might be a VERY long time (if ever) that I dread Monday's again! :) Randy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems
If the wins are vacated, the loss still counts for the opposing team. If they had to forfeit the games, then the opposing team would gain the win. _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:46 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I don't know the answer to this for sure, but one of the articles about the Semiholes said that if they have to vacate their wins, then their record could be 0-6 (or something like that) for one year. That suggests to me that the win is just wiped away from the winner, but not given to the loser. If the other team would get the win, then FSU would have an 0-12 record instead of 0-6. That's just me reading between the lines. If anyone knows about this, it would be great to know for sure exactly how it works. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I hear about schools vacating wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also change OUR record to indicate one additional win? Randy - Original Message - From: Shane mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net Ford To: GatorNEWS mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems NCAA places Alabama football program on probation By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. ---snip, snip, snip-- As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates
Even more unfortunate and unbelievable - no stations in Minnesota! What is up with that? And I thought I would get away with not purchasing Gameplan this year... Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:50 AM To: Gatortalk-list Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates Unfortunately there is a TBA listed for the Ft. Pierce/ WPB area. I certainly hope they get a station. It would be terrible to have moved back here from Tennessee and not have a SEC network station. Charlie _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:15 AM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates Found on UT web site: http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072109aaa.html On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net wrote: ESPN will produce SEC games on regional TV By John Patton mailto:patt...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Staff writer Published: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. ESPN Regional Television and the SEC have announced a regionally syndicated college sports package that will air in more than 73 television markets. Included in that will be the branding of the syndication package as the SEC Network. http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090721/ARTICLES/907219940#%23 Click to enlarge The SEC and ESPN recently signed a 15-year contract, and coverage on the SEC Network will include football, men's and women's basketball. As ESPN moves forward in this landmark agreement with the SEC, ESPN Regional Television is thrilled to provide our viewers with a consistent window for Southeastern Conference football and basketball, said Pete Derzis, senior vice president general manager of ESPN Regional Television. With ESPN's multimedia platforms, we anticipate SEC sports will touch an unprecedented base of college fans nationwide. Beginning Sept. 5, the SEC Network, which will be carried on WOGX in Gainesville, will air 13 regular-season football games. The noon telecasts will have a different touch than previous deals with Jefferson Pilot and Lincoln Financial in that they will open with a live SEC studio show, which will be based out of Charlotte and hosted by Rob Stone and former Georgia offensive lineman Matt Stinchcomb. Kickoff will be at 12:21 p.m., and the games will be called by Dave Neal, 1989 Heisman Trophy winner Andre Ware and sideline reporter Cara Capuano. The regular-season SEC men's basketball package on the SEC Network beginning in January will consist of Wednesday and Saturday games, including doubleheaders. The SEC Network will also offer regional coverage of multiple rounds from the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament as well as SEC women's basketball games on Sundays, also beginning in January. The SEC Network, through the efforts of ESPN, will be the largest college sports syndication television package in the country, SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said. The comprehensive market coverage in the nine-state SEC area combined with the out-of-market reach gives us significant additional exposure for our programs. In other television news, Sun Sports announced a new program called SEC Gridiron LIVE, a 60-minute studio show offering game previews, analysis and a social networking component that enables fan interaction. Premiering on Sept. 2 at 10 p.m., SEC Gridiron LIVE is hosted by broadcasting veteran Charles Davis, with analysts Randy Cross, a longtime NFL lineman; and former Georgia defensive end David Pollack, as well as social media reporter Cassidy Hubbarth. SEC Gridiron LIVE will be distributed to more than 24 million cable and satellite households on the FSN regional networks throughout the SEC territory. As a former SEC football player and a lifelong fan, I am thrilled for the opportunity to host SEC Gridiron LIVE, said Davis, a former Tennessee defensive back. SEC football fans are incredibly knowledgeable and opinionated, and our show gives them the chance to voice their views and opinions each week. That spirited interaction among fans and the on-air team is what will set SEC Gridiron LIVE apart and it's something that really excites me. I'm looking forward to working with Randy, David and Cassidy to make this show very special. Contact John Patton at 374-5074 or patt...@gvillesun.com. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.22/2253 - Release Date: 07/21/09 18:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football
[gatortalk] Re: New group
Cheryl, I don't believe there is a Gator club in Des Moines. We have one up here in Minneapolis, the only others in the upper midwest are St.Louis and Chicago. I would suggest you contact Star Sawyer at the UF Alumini association, they will give you the details and help facilitate a club. ssaw...@ufalumni.ufl.edu (352) 392-1616 http://www.ufalumni.ufl.edu/GatorClubs/howtostart.aspx Good Luck! Ken Kirkley MNGator -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:10 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] New group Hi all ~ I'm looking to start a Gator club in Des Moines, IA. I've not been able to locate one as of yet, so I don't know if one already exists or not, and I'd like to find out if there's an interest here. Feedback? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---