RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Ken Kirkley
I would counter that looking at this as a professors vs. statues argument is
flawed.  I can't imagine that the booster(s) that are paying for this
wouldn't give the money for academic purposes if requested, rather they have
been asked to donate for this purpose.

Now why would we ask them to do this?  As has been previously stated, we are
in an arms race to fund our athletic programs and be in a position to donate
significant dollars back to the university. That arms race is in part fueled
by winning teams, which are created with tremendous student-athletes.

Now, what do you think will influence that stud RB to attend UF, a new
religion professor or seeing those statues, knowing that one day he might
have one too?  It can be argued that without the statues, we will lose
recruits, which will cost us to lose some games, which will reduce donations
(see the Zook years) and ultimately have less money going back to the
academic side of the university.

Having said all of that, I don't like the statues.  Not because of who or
how they are being funded, I just think the whole idea is tacky.  And I
certainly wouldn't put one up of SOS until he leaves the cocks and retires.

Ken K.
MNGator

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statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

Ok, Zeb! Gosh! You have me questioning my own position on this. You raise
some very good points concerning the UAA vs the university. Man, are you a
lawyer or some thing? :-)

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On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

 That is why it's called a donation. Giving more money to the  
 university could be justified in any year, not just this year when  
 things are bad.

If the UAA were part of the University, it would be called a budget.

But for the University, the UAA would not earn a dime. Semi-pro  
football founders, and even minor league baseball has trouble making  
money (with better players than play NCAA ball).

So, I have trouble understanding that, when an arm of the University  
comes in under-budget, why not spending more money is considered a  
donation.


 Actually, the UAA gives more money than most other schools get out  
 of their sports programs. Besides, who do you think funds softball,  
 soccer and lacrosse? Ticket sales? Not only the sports, but all the  
 scholarships related to ALL of the non-revenue sports at UF are  
 funded by UAA.

Well, OK, but how does this matter? Wouldn't they be part of the  
athletic department budget at another school? Money is fungible.

I think your real point is that football pays for everything. Fine,  
but understand that a football-only athletic department would have  
serious Title IX problems, and that the non-revenue women's sports  
could reasonably be considered a part of the cost of operating the  
football program.

 The vast majority of colleges don't do that, nor do they even run  
 in the black in any given year. That takes money directly away from  
 professors at f$U.

Does the financial success of the UF football program depend upon:
1. our students and alumni
2. our success on the field
3. the adroitness of the UAA?

I recall selling out Florida Field in 1979 when we were 0-10-1. I  
have trouble believing that, but for the UAA, we would not have the  
same football revenue. Maybe we should pull a Vandy, and bring all of  
athletics in-house.

-Zeb

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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/13 22:44 --- Come fall, UF students can use private insurers to pay campus medical bills [Keenan]

2010-07-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
 

Really   

 

Oh My.

 

My only hope is that these Quidditch players will use this money on
something useful, like beer.  I really do appreciate the University
supporting all kinds of activities, but this borders on the ridiculous,
almost as much as giving $430 to the Freethought club (maybe we should put
something in our constitution that guarantees free speech.).

 

 

The Quidditch Club, a sport created in the Harry Potter series that
involves students running around with broomsticks in between their legs
while trying to score points by throwing ball in a hula hoop, received
$352.

 

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Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/13 22:44 --- Come fall, UF students can use
private insurers to pay campus medical bills [Keenan]

 


Come fall, UF students can use private insurers to pay campus medical bills



By Chelsea Keenan
Gainesville SUN Correspondent

Published: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 at 10:44 p.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 at 10:44 p.m. 

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

2010-07-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
Gifts from family members are allowed.  

 

My problem with this whole situation, if true, is the selfishness of the
act.  He could have taken the $100k as soon as the game was over, no
problem.  But by taking it, if he did, before the game he basically thumbed
his nose at his teammates and made all of their preparation and sacrifice
for naught.

 

From the bits I have read, it sounds like this money was not from the agent
he signed with and this agent is now 'leaking; the information out.  I am
hoping that it went down something like the agent sends a unsolicited check
for $100k, Maurkice gets it, doesn't cash it and signs with another agent.
He thinks he has done nothing wrong since he never actually took the money
and didn't sign with the agent.

 

In any case, while some are trying to make this look bad for Florida,
overall it is an NCAA problem and unscrupulous agents.  It does seem like
the NCAA is really trying hard to enforce it this year, so maybe something
good will come from it.  Trying to compare this situation to Reggie Bush is
laughable.  USCw never self reported and denied any wrong-doing, even when
agents and runners were allowed at practices.  Jeremy has handled this like
he has all other issues, with class and integrity.

 

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Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---
Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

 

Aren't gifts to family members also an NCAA no-no?

 

Don't we still have this guy's brother on the roster?

 

-Zeb

 

On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Woody wrote:





So I am already seeing questions comparing the Reggie Bush situaiton to
this... and thankfully Pat Forde is responding to them to answer... but the
biggest difference is.. Florida reported it as soon as they were informed
about it.  USC-west didnt.  It wasnt until years later until the NCAA pushed
that USC-west finally pulled up the rug and decided to clean up their act. 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 --- Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

2010-07-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
It's not a requirement that you automatically vacate wins, just that is a
punishment option.  In this case, unless it is proven we should have known
or did know, I wouldn't expect us to have to vacate the win.  But it is a
possibility.

 

If it wasn't it would be a very unenforceable rule, everyone would say, well
we didn't know.

 

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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---
Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

 

So, what did we have to vacate because of Jevon Kearse?

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---
Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

 

Incorrect.  Regardless of whether we knew about it or not, if he was
ineligible and played we can have the victory vacated.

 

Remember, that was SOWs defense against the cheating scandal - we didn't
know they cheated so why should poor Bobby have to vacate wins

 

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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---
Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

 

Even if Pouncey did take money from the agent, it would have to be proven
that UF knew about this and that they let him play anyway before the game
would be vacated.  

Jevon Kearse took money and we didn't have to vacate any victories.  This is
a long way from anything like that.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 7/19 18:36 ---
Report: Florida, NCAA probe violation allegation [Associated Press]

 

I grew up in a long cold era where UG had no Sugar Bowl victories (although,
wasn't SOS MVP on a team that lost a Sugar Bowl?).

 

Each Sugar Bowl victory remains precious to me.

 

-Zeb

 

On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:34 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote:

 

the the only penalty is that we forfeit one game again Cincinnati - there is
not much to worry about

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

2010-07-21 Thread Ken Kirkley
Top  Rivalries??

1.  Georgia
2.  Jawga
3.  UGA
4.  scum
5.  SOW

 

Alabama doesn't even appear on the list.  Dooley may sway with the wind on
who is a rival, but Bama has not been a traditional rival and while both
their program and ours are peaking at the same time, it will have to
continue like this for the next 5 or 6 years for it to become a true
rivalry.  As it stands now, we wont play them for 4 more years after this
year unless they can make it back to the SECC to meet us in our rightful
position.

 

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Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf,
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and
this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).

What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it
will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU
still has to prove it's back.

 

**

15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is
the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South
Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack
of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?

16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
understand those lagging season ticket sales.

17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation.
It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending
on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way
- 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but
the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely.
Discuss.

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford go.ufgator...@gmail.com wrote:


Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals



By Pat Dooley mailto:dool...@gvillesun.com 
Gainesville SUN sports writer

Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 

 

 

Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season.
Because I said so.

 

10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to
try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of
brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch
much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh,
wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the
British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a
couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what
he does for a living he'd say, I watch grass grow. Which would have been
twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems
like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder why he missed the
cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad
production values and way too much love for the mystique of the tourney.
That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger
Woods could still play.

11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on
to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it
sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but
I am going to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was
supposed to be his return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth
is the mental strain seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1
golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation for the way he played,
especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on Saturday.

12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson kissed
the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old course.
Watson said he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's probably
played his last British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And kudos to
Tiger for letting Watson's group play up. Watson has been one of Tiger's
biggest critics, but there are times when you have to let those things go.

13. Speaking of which, Michael Jordan needs to back off his criticism of
LeBron James. Jordan said he wouldn't have gotten together with other
superstars to form a super 

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/21 19:10 --- McElroy out to improve Tide's timing [Aschoff]

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
Wasn't this the same kid that said he was hoping to be a sports agent in a
news article earlier this week

 

It's a dream right now for McElroy, but becoming a Rhodes Scholar could go a
long way to helping him improve the lives of others once football is over.

I just want to make a difference, he said.

What I would like to see is one of these reporters follow-up with a question
- Didn't you say you wanted to be a sports agent?  Yeah, I want to make a
difference, do you realize how hard it is for an NFL cornerback to live on
$4M a year?

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:08 AM
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Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/21 19:10 --- McElroy out to improve Tide's
timing [Aschoff]

 


McElroy out to improve Tide's timing


 
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100721Categ
ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100729896Ref=ARMaxW=600border=0 

Alabama QB Greg McElroy talks with members of the media at SEC Media Days in
Hoover, Ala. on Wednesday. (AP photo)


By Edward Aschoff
Gainesville SUN Correspondent

Published: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 7:10 p.m. 
Last Modified: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 7:10 p.m. 

 

 

HOOVER, Ala. - Greg McElroy is on a never-ending quest to better himself.

Sure, he's 14-0 as the starting quarterback at Alabama and he's got an SEC
and national championship ring to show off, but that's not enough. He wants
his senior year to be about improving as a football player, while keeping
that unbeaten record intact.

To help, McElroy sought advice from one of the best in the sport. For the
last couple of weeks, McElroy had the privilege of hanging out with Super
Bowl-winning Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning. The future NFL
Hall of Famer told McElroy that in order to keep his success churning,
timing has got to become an obsession.

That is so important for a guy that's not going to be able to throw it
through a brick wall, McElroy said.

McElroy has worked constantly on trying to get the ball out of his hand as
fast as possible. He's studied endless film, learning how his players move
and how defenses operate. But the thing that's helped the most is actually
getting together with his receivers to work on plays.

Timing has truly turned into an obsession for him and his receivers, with
the objective of having one of the nation's most exciting offenses.

We want to be in the upper echelon of having explosive plays, he said.

But McElroy's summer hasn't been all about football. The senior finished his
second draft of the essay he's submitting to become a Rhodes Scholar and
study at Oxford University in England. The 1,000-word essay on his
intellectual journey from childhood to well into his future will focus on
attempting to answer the question if talent on the football field and social
and academic interaction are learned or natural.

McElroy called former Florida State safety and Rhodes Scholar Myron Rolle on
Tuesday for advice as he awaits his fate. McElroy will have his interview
Nov. 20 - the Saturday before the Auburn game.

It's a dream right now for McElroy, but becoming a Rhodes Scholar could go a
long way to helping him improve the lives of others once football is over.

I just want to make a difference, he said.

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44!

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
Yeah, but what I really need is the analysis of his facial expression.  Is
he a player?  Is that smile because he's nice or because he just stole
someone's lunch money? 

 

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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44!

 

Which means - about 14 days (2 weeks) till practice starts !!! 

 

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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44!
From: Jay Cicone  mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com
jay.cic...@raymondjames.com
Date: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:56 am
To:  mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Yeah---day 44. No comment.

 

Thanks, Darlene.

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM
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Subject: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 44!

 

#44 - Duke Lemmens

 

Duke Lemmens - 2007

 

Duke is a 6-3, 253 lbs. true senior Defensive End from Westlake Village,
California (Oaks Christian HS) who has played in 32 games, with one career
start. He has recorded 23 tackles (14 solo) including three tackles for a
loss and 2 quarterback sacks, as well as one forced fumble. He is majoring
in Sports Management. 

 

 

 

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[gatortalk] My new favorite SEC coach

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
Any coach who can get up in front of 800 credentialed media and talk about
inseminating turkeys has got to be tops!  Vanderbilt may not win a game, but
it does appear they have traded Steve Martin for Larry the Cable Guy as head
coach.

 

Robbie Caldwell is a hoot; if you get a chance to watch his presser on ESPNu
it is well worthwhile.

 

Spurrier on the other hand was quite boring.  They offered up the bait for
him to bite, but he wouldn't.

 

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2010-07-23 Thread Ken Kirkley
A couple of interesting quotes out of this article:

Lots of pool time for Mallett

I've been doing a lot of swimming to stay in condition. I haven't been able
to run to this point, so I've been swimming a lot, doing a lot of weight
room stuff with upper body. It's really helped me out.

So Mallett is supposed to be all everything QB this year, but 2 weeks away
from two a days and he still isn't running?  Swimming can get you in great
shape and condition, but running is different, after all, swimmers run to
condition. If I were, god forbid, an Arkansas fan, this would be hugely
concerning to me.

 

Garcia finally getting it?

I'm his roommate and I've seen a huge change, fullback Patrick DiMarco
said. He's matured a lot. He's busting his butt, putting in the extra
effort, working on his own with the receivers this summer, things that I
haven't seen before. Hopefully, that will translate on the field.

Spurrier gets all kinds of grief for the way he handles his QBs, but maybe
some are just head cases.  When your roommate praises you for busting your
butt, but then qualifies it by saying Hopefully, that will translate on the
field.  That tells me that Garcia has been a slacker and even his teammate
is questioning whether or not he will be able to get over the hump.  Sounds
like another 7 win season for SOS.

 

 

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Vanderbilt interim head coach Robbie Caldwell during day two of SEC Media
Days at the Wynfrey Hotel in Hoover, Ala., Thursday.


By Robbie Andreu mailto:andr...@gvillesun.com 
Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 5:36 p.m. 
Last Modified: Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 5:36 p.m. 

 

 

HOOVER, Ala. - After all this serious and somber talk about agents and NCAA
investigations, the mood at SEC Media Days was lightened considerably
Thursday by a refreshing and humorous blast of good, old-fashioned homespun
country air.

New Vanderbilt coach Robbie Caldwell practically charmed the socks off the
media with the tales he spun about growing up in tiny Pageland, S.C., and
now having the opportunity to be a head coach after being a life-long
assistant for more than 30 years.

Caldwell held a captive (and laughing) audience for the 45 minutes he was on
the podium. He was so genuine, so funny (and so different form the other
head coaches) that he draw applause from the media when he finished. That's
probably a first in SEC Media Days history.

In less than an hour, Caldwell went from a complete unknown to possibly the
most popular coach in the SEC (with the media, at least).

He came here as such an unknown, he said someone gave him a tip when he held
the door open for him at a restaurant Wednesday night.

Oh, man, I got a dollar and a half. I gave it back to him, Caldwell said.
I thought it was pretty good. He just gave me the change he had left. I
thought that was pretty good.

I wish I knew the name of the restaurant here. Golly, it was fantastic. By
the way, I ate quail. I kept my heritage there. It was pretty neat.

With a warm, friendly Southern drawl, Caldwell sounds a lot like Bobby
Bowden. But it's doubtful Bobby has ever been this funny.

Here are some Caldwell highlights:

* On his work ethic - All I know how to do is work. I grew up in it. I've
been a worker all my life. My wife said, 'You can't talk about anything but
football.' I can. I can talk about pouring concrete, farming, being a
pipe-fitter, working on a turkey farm. Those are the things I did prior to
getting into football. That's the God's truth.

* On whether the other coaches have welcomed him - No, not a one. No
offense to them, but they don't know me. They will.

* On whether he will continue to enforce Bobby Johnson's no profanity policy
- You know, I'm no angel, that's for certain. You know, it's a sign of
limited vocabulary sometimes. I know ya'll can't tell it, but I have an
education.

* On growing up in Pageland, S.C. - You had to like watermelon, No. 1,
because it was the watermelon capitol of the world, we proclaimed anyway.
You had to like hunting and fishing. Frog gigging. I was scared to death of
girls, so that didn't interest me. And I played ball. We all played sports
to get out of work. ... My first hourly paying job was on the turkey farm. I
don't know if I could tell you what my job was, but I was on the
inseminating crew. That's a fact. Best job I ever had, got paid by the 

RE: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- DOOLEY's DESK --- the Vandy solution [Dooley]

2010-07-29 Thread Ken Kirkley
It as difficult for the average student, not for the student athlete.  While
Florida may be more stringent on athletes than others, we are no where near
as stringent as Vandy, Duke or Stanford, none of which have won a NC in the
modern age of football.

 

I think the argument to get rid of Vandy is spurious at best.  They compete
very well against us in football, never win but always make it interesting.
And they are competitive in basketball, baseball and the non-revenue sports.
The more interesting comparison would be to look at Vandy and it's place in
the SEC vs the bottom dwellers of other conferences.  If you put Vandy in a
conference with Washington State, Minnesota, Iowa State, Baylor, Duke,
Syracuse, Kansas, Baylor, Indiana, Arizona State and Marykand, where do you
think they would rank?  My bet would be near the top every year.

 

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--- the Vandy solution [Dooley]

 

You know, it's really as tough or tougher to get into UF as Vandy.
Vanderbilt's Medical school might be a little more difficult than Florida's.

Of course, here in Nash Vegas that's their excuse EVERY time they get the
hell beat out of them. 
Even if you assume Vandy is tougher than UF, consider North Carolina, Notre
Dame, Stanford and Duke. All have high standards and all have multiple Nat'l
Championships. Difference? As Dooley says, they care about sports, Vandy
doesn't. Let's dump 'em!

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solution [Dooley]

 

 http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/ 

July 27th, 2010 01:36pm


 http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/ the Vandy
solution


by  http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/author/dooley/ Pat Dooley
(Gainesville SUN)

 

 

Two of the biggest names in southern journalism this week have made a
statement I made back in 1998. Both Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel and
Paul Finebaum of the Finebaum Network have written than it's time for
Vanderbilt to be kicked out of the SEC.

Back in '98 as Florida was blowing out the Commodores, I sat on the 50-yard
line at Dudley Field in Nashville and wrote a similar column. Not in the
press box but in the stands. There was nobody within 15 yards of me.

But I also understand that when we write these kinds of columns it validates
the opinions that people outside the South have, that we're pulling up our
jean-shorts by our rope belts and saying, We don't need any of that book
learnin' in this conference.

Vandy adds a lot to the league in several sports. You also have to realize
that for athletic directors in this league, Vandy is a lot better than
Arkansas. Nashville is not only a lot easier to get to, it's a lot more fun
when you get there.

However, Vanderbilt doesn't feel like an SEC school, has rotten facilities
and never seems to take football seriously.

I'm not pushing for their ouster. Instead, I asking the other 11 schools in
the league to demand more of Vandy. They should tell the Commodores
heirarchy that its next coach has to make a minimum of 2 million a year.
Make Vanderbilt hire someone who players will want to play for. And force
the Conmmodores to put some of that money that Alabama and Florida earn for
them into their facility.

Vandy isn't that much harder than Florida or Georgia to get into to. That's
not the problem. The problem is nobody wants to go there. If Vandy is going
to remain a viable member of this league, it has to spend some money to make
it seem like an SEC team instead of the Kansas City Royals.

Otherwise, boot 'em.

 

 

 


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1.  July 27th, 2010 4:53 pm
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Dude, unless you are talking about student athletes you are wrong about the
entrance requirements for Vandy vs. Florida. Vanderbilt is much more
difficult to get into. Your statement is akin to saying that Yale is not
much more difficult to get accepted to than Vanderbilt. BTW, I'm a gator
grad, so I don't have an axe to grind.

by Crusher

2.  July 27th, 2010 5:31 pm
http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2230


My daughter was provisionally accepted to both Harvard and UF. The academic
standards weren't that far apart. The point is not that the SEC doesn't have
some -ahem-less rigorous academies of higher learning, but that if Florida
and Georgia can compete athletically AND academically, then what exactly is
Vandy's 

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Aloha Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Herald courtesy of Junogator

2010-08-27 Thread Ken Kirkley
I think the 'journalists' from south Florida have been talking to Woody.
Seriously, he is going to monitor the tone of voice???  Just how is he going
to do that and what training or expertise does he have to provide such an
incredible analysis?  And, regardless (or is that irregardless)  :)  no
matter what he says, it's probably not true.  Jeesh!

This whole fiasco might make Urban want to reopen practice.  With everyone
not knowing every detail of what is happening, rumors spread based on
sperious information.  If practice had been open, this was maybe a one day
story.  

 

 

It will be interesting to hear how he explains it - if he explains it - but
it will be equally interesting to monitor his tone of voice and whether he
stays calm.

I highly doubt Meyer will launch another tirade like he did when he
confronted a reporter in spring. Most likely, he will say this is an
in-house matter. If asked directly about the two players threatening to
transfer, expect him to emphatically shoot it down (that doesn't mean it's
not true, though).

 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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4. Both players were at Wednesday's practice. Multiple reporters who hung
around outside the facility were firsthand witnesses to this.

Meyer mostly has been answering questions about injuries, the depth chart
and his own health during August. This will be his first big controversy
since his last big controversy (resigning and un-resigning in a 24-hour
period in December). 

It will be interesting to hear how he explains it - if he explains it - but
it will be equally interesting to monitor his tone of voice and whether he
stays calm.

I highly doubt Meyer will launch another tirade like he did when he
confronted a reporter in spring. Most likely, he will say this is an
in-house matter. If asked directly about the two players threatening to
transfer, expect him to emphatically shoot it down (that doesn't mean it's
not true, though).

Both of these players, Powell at defensive end and Easley at defensive
tackle - got good reviews from the coaching staff during training camp and
are expected to be in the regular rotation of defensive linemen this season.

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2010-09-01 Thread Ken Kirkley
 
 
Although the picture quality looks like is was created by a Flintstones
camera, these look much better than last years!  Looks like the helmet has
scales, cool!  
 

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Nike's UF uniform to debut at Georgia game


 
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uniforms for the 2010 college football season. (Nike/UStream)


Special to Gainesville SUN Gatorsports

Published: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. 
Last Modified: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. 

 

 

NEW YORK - Nike released a Gator-themed Pro Combat football uniform that
will be worn at the game against the Georgia Bulldogs on October 30.

Florida is one of the 10 college football programs that have been selected
to wear the uniquely designed Nike uniforms this fall.

The Nike uniform is engineered to provide superior protection and
durability, while utilizing advanced fabrics and tooling that reduce weight.

Former UF standout running back Errict Rhett represented the Gators at the
event.

 
 
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2010-09-06 Thread Ken Kirkley
Really, I hadn't noticed.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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- C Mike Pouncey had several bad snaps ...

 

 , three of which resulted in fumbles and lost yardage. Brantley said in
August and again in the post-game press conference there had been no
problems with snap exchange. Meyer said otherwise.

Been a little bit more of a problem than it's been for a while, he said.

Meyer saw bad snaps in the pre-season and now in a real game, and admitted
it might deter Florida from operating out of the shotgun as often.

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RE: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] Mike Pouncey looking for a good night's sleep

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Kirkley
They could be the Golden Bulls, about as much as our offensive coordinator
is a guy named Adagio, or Mike Pouncey's brother is Maurice.
 
Nice editing work.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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So, this is where Franz Beard ended up? Where is he? Can't tell from the
article. 
And, are they the Golden Bulls? I thought just the Bulls. 

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 http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey needs for
Saturday to get here quickly. After a nightmare game against Miami (OH) last
weekend that left him feeling truly embarrassed and the subject of national
ridicule, he needs to play well against USF when the Golden Bulls come to
town (12:21 p.m.; Ben Hill Griffin Stadium; SEC Network). He needs to redeem
himself. Then and only then will he get a good night's rest.

Several bad snaps by Pouncey set the tone for an effort so uninspiring that
the Florida Gators fell from third in the coaches poll to sixth in the most
recent rankings. Although the Gators finished off Miami to the tune of
34-12, their miserable offensive output (212 total yards), the lingering
memory of Florida's opening game win of the 2010 season is a mistake-filled
effort for which  http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike
Pouncey has asked to shoulder all the blame. He feels his poor effort
reflected poorly on his teammates and that is a burden that he's been
carrying for the past three days.

I'm the leader of the offense and when the leader is messing it up, it
makes everybody look bad, Pouncey said early Tuesday afternoon. It's just
not expected out of me. I've been busting my tail. I haven't been able to
sleep all week ever since the game, trying to get it right and it's going to
be right this weekend.

If there is a word that probably best describes Mike, the half of the
Pouncey twins who stayed for his senior year (Maurice left early, was
selected by Pittsburgh in the first round of the NFL Draft and earned the
starting center job for the Steelers over veteran Justin Hart wig) it is
pride. He's proud to be a Gator and proud to be the team leader. He expects
to play well every time out. A second-team All-American at right guard last
year, Mike came back to play center, the position where Maurice earned the
Remington Award as the nation's best last year.

When you've invested so much into a new position and earning a chance to
better yourself in the next NFL Draft --- as a guard Mike would project late
second or early third round at best but as a center late first or early
second --- a game like the one
http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike Pouncey had Saturday
is the worst possible nightmare. He's been called out on ESPN by Mark May
and is the star of a bloopers compilation on You Tube.

The snap issues were brand new for Mike and nothing he had experienced
before either in practice or in games. He was the backup center last year
and even played half of the Sugar Bowl victory over Cincinnati at center
without a single snap incident. When his third snap of the game went
bouncing past quarterback Johnny Brantley it was a surprise, but he didn't
think it would happen again.

It did. He bounced two more past Brantley during the game and was off target
on at least seven other snaps.

After the game,  http://247Sports.com/Recruit/Mike-Pouncey-4863 Mike
Pouncey stood before the media and accepted the blame for the way the entire
team played, knowing as he spoke that he was going to have to atone for his
bad game and atonement started with figuring out what went wrong, then doing
something about it.

I grew up where if you're doing something wrong you change it, Mike said.
I was doing something wrong so I don't want to stay the same. If I stay the
same we'll be back in here asking about the same thing [Saturday].

There are theories about what went wrong --- nerves, not locking his wrist,
too anxious to block instead of first focusing on getting the snap 

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Two UF students charged with auto burglary --- 9/8 14:56 --- [Voyles]

2010-09-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
Uh, Mom, Dad, can you send me some money?  What for? Uh well...the
authorities kind of want me to post bail...
 
Nice phone call to have to make.  3 years of college down the drain.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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Two UF students charged with auto burglary



By  mailto:voyl...@gvillesun.com Karen Voyles
Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 2:56 p.m. 
Last Modified: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 2:56 p.m. 

 

 

Two University of Florida's undergraduates have a seldom-used excuse for
cutting classes this week. They are in jail, suspected of stealing from
other undergraduates.

 

 
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Juniors Marc Tyler Barnett, 20, of 725 N.W. 13th St., and Steven Andrew
Rossmeissi, 20, of 1517 N.W. 57th Ave., were arrested by Gainesville police
Tuesday on charges of auto burglary.

Officer Edward Ratliff said he was wearing plain clothes and driving an
unmarked vehicle while patrolling near the Parkside 1 apartments at 951 S.W.
11th St. Ratliff spotted Barnett and Rossmeissi trying to open the door of a
car and then get into another vehicle and drive away. They were pulled over
within a few blocks. Inside the back seat of the car, police said they found
a laptop computer, two GPS units and other portable electronic items.

Following the arrests, police said Barnett and Rossmeissi admitted getting
one of the GPS units from an unlocked car and trying to enter 20 to 30
vehicles by pulling on door handles to look for unlocked vehicles.

Barnett and Rossmeissi were being held at the Alachua County jail on
Wednesday.

 

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2010-09-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
He shoots, he scores!
 
Ken K
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Try Auburn.

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RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game

2010-09-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
Mighty Gator - 49
Golden Bull - 6
 
Ken Kirkley
651-249-5197
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Subject: [gatortalk] Saturday's game



Anyone care to pick an outcome??? I'll say Florida 34---USF 17

Anything from the 2daves regarding last weekend and this one upcoming?

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RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game

2010-09-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
He better watch out, or I will sic Corrine on him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A
 
Ken K
MNGator

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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:31 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game



Moses is watching you, Ken.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:22 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Saturday's game

 

Mighty Gator - 49

Golden Bull - 6

 

Ken Kirkley

651-249-5197

k...@kirkley.net

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:19 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Saturday's game

Anyone care to pick an outcome??? I'll say Florida 34---USF 17

Anything from the 2daves regarding last weekend and this one upcoming?

Jay P. Cicone | Investment Consultant
Raymond James Financial Services, Inc.
Member FINRA/SIPC


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RE: [gatortalk] tonight

2010-09-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
If you lived in Minnesota, you would know there is nothing else happening in
the entire world tonight other than the Vikings playing the Saints.  I think
by gubenatorial decree they have mandated all television stations not
showing the game to play a non-stop loop of the Vikings fight song.  I hate
the NFL.
 
But then again, how stupid to have the Aub-MS St. game on the same night as
NFL opening night?  And having teams from the same region play in both
games.  It will be interesting to see the ratings, does college or NFL win
in Mississippi?
 
KenK
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] tonight



Auburn vs. Missy Statethis should be a good'n. I'm pulling for the
other orange and blue.

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them...

2010-09-10 Thread Ken Kirkley
Oh, it's funny! 


Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:52 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them...

Is that supposed to be funny?

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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Subject: [gatortalk] HUMOR: Just too many of them...

Four men shared a cab from the airport into the city. One came from Idaho,
one from Iowa, one from Florida, and the last from New York.

After a few miles, the man from Idaho opened his suitcase, pulled out some
potatoes, and threw them out the window. The cab driver asked, What are you
doing?

The man from Idaho said, We have so many potatoes in Idaho that whenever
one of us leaves the state, we just throw them away because we're sick of
looking at them.

A few miles later, the passenger from Iowa began pulling ears of corn from
his bag and throwing them out the window.

The cabbie asked, What are you doing that for?

Man, we have so much corn in Iowa that we have to get rid of it all because
we're sick of looking at it!

A few miles later, the man from Florida opened the car door . . . and pushed
the New Yorker out.

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[gatortalk] Ruh Roh

2010-09-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
http://circuit8.org/cgi-bin/jaildetail.cgi?bookno=ASO10JBN010417
 
 
 
Ken K
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RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

2010-09-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below.  If
I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do.  

 
 http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# 3 up,
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# 8 down
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die#
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die# 

 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775
250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets
The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life 
The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling
me, It's Time to Die!
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh



Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he
didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF?

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RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

2010-09-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
It may be a popular phrase, but in the context of his actions last night I
don't think he meant his batteries were dead. We can downplay this all we
want but bottom line this is a serious issue.  
 
I agree that this will probably be plead down or dropped completely, but
that doesn't change the fact that he did it.  It also doesn't help the image
of UF when, once again, we are in the ESPN ticker with negative news.
 
We can no longer make fun of other schools transgressions as long as this
stuff keeps happening.   Yes, we deal with it differently in most cases, but
obviously these kids aren't getting the message.  Urban has always had a
strong stance on violence against women, it will be interesting to see how
he deals with Chris as he is one of his favorites.
 
I am not advocating he be kicked off the team or out of school (although
that may be school policy), rather he needs to have a multi-game suspension
and enter some type of education/treatment program to ensure this doesn't
happen again.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh



Ken,

 

I looked at your link and was surprised it seems to be a popular phrase
these days? I have a 17 year old daughter and I would do anything to protect
her.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:47 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

 

Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below.  If
I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do.  

 

 http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 3 up,
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 8 down 

 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775
250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets

The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life 

The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling
me, It's Time to Die!

 

Ken K
MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he
didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF?

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RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

2010-09-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
I am reminded of the Lacrosse player at University of Virginia that killed
his girlfriend after an on and off relationship.  I think Florida might have
no other options due to the liability.  Although I would hope there is an
avenue to get him appropriate treatment and maintain the stability that he
has in the University community.  That would give him the best hope for
long-term success.
 
Wasn't Rainey the one who basically lived with the Pouncey's because he
didn't have a home?
 
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:36 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh



If he does not withdraw, the president of the university has no choice but
to expel him.  The university is now on notice that he has a serious mental
issue that could result in serious harm or death.

 

Jerry

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:08 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

 

It may be a popular phrase, but in the context of his actions last night I
don't think he meant his batteries were dead. We can downplay this all we
want but bottom line this is a serious issue.  

 

I agree that this will probably be plead down or dropped completely, but
that doesn't change the fact that he did it.  It also doesn't help the image
of UF when, once again, we are in the ESPN ticker with negative news.

 

We can no longer make fun of other schools transgressions as long as this
stuff keeps happening.   Yes, we deal with it differently in most cases, but
obviously these kids aren't getting the message.  Urban has always had a
strong stance on violence against women, it will be interesting to see how
he deals with Chris as he is one of his favorites.

 

I am not advocating he be kicked off the team or out of school (although
that may be school policy), rather he needs to have a multi-game suspension
and enter some type of education/treatment program to ensure this doesn't
happen again.

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

Ken,

 

I looked at your link and was surprised it seems to be a popular phrase
these days? I have a 17 year old daughter and I would do anything to protect
her.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:47 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

 

Something tells me it isn't slang, Urban Dictionary definition below.  If
I'm Meyer and I have a daughter in college, I know what I would do.  

 

 http://time-to-die.urbanup.com/1775250 1. Time To Die
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 3 up,
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=time+to+die 8 down 

 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Time%20To%20Diedefid=1775
250 buy time to die mugs, tshirts and magnets

The Time when your clock runs out of battery/life 

The other day I was playing video games and my clock was basically telling
me, It's Time to Die!

 

Ken K
MNGator

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Ruh Roh

Kids these days---it's all slang. Who know what that means? At least he
didn't threaten to kill anyone. Time to die?? WTF?

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[gatortalk] Fearless Prediction

2010-09-17 Thread Ken Kirkley
UF 42
UT 3
 
This is the game where we see Brantley show his true potential and Burton
might even get in the act with a jump pass for a TD!
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

2010-09-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
 Oh come on now, you are offended by someone saying entitlement Gator??  I
think it was incredibly offensive for Scott to put words in my mouth and say
everyone on the list feels the way he does.  I also believe many Gator fans
feel entitled.  My goodness, we went into that game expecting it to be close
and while we made it closer than it should have been, we still won an away
SEC game by 14 points!  And we suck...

While this team and coaches have a ways to go to be operating at peak
efficiency, they are doing quite well given all the mistakes that are being
made.  I have watched a lot of football these past 3 weeks and there isn't a
team out there that we can't beat.  Of course, there are many teams that we
could lose to as well.  This team reminds me of Alabama last year.  They
struggled early in games against inferior opponents, but eventually put it
altogether to finish the season incredibly strong.

We have that same opportunity, but the play calling does need to improve and
the players need to stop making mistakes.

But, even if we make no improvement, I only see one sure loss and that is at
Bama.  USC will be tough, but I think we have the run defense to stop
Lattimore and Garcia won't beat us in the air.  LSU? Nope, too inconsistent.
Ugh?  Nope, the are done.  KY, Vandy, MS State?  Nope.  F$U, not on your
life.

We are a very good football team that everyone thinks is a finesse team when
we are not.  We do need to find an identity on offense, the dive play was
great to set up a Tebow run, but is ineffective to set up a Brantley option
pitch.

At this point in the young season, there are only 33 undefeated teams and 80
have already lost at least once.  If we were VaTech or Ole Miss, then we
would have something to complain about! Stay strong, remember in all kinds
of weather, and right now the weather is pretty good at 3-0.  


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

Hmm...  entitlement Gator fans is awfully strong comment when you dont
really know that person.  Id be careful using that reference again in the
future.

And this will be my last reply on this list.



On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:10 PM, ala...@gatorzone.com wrote:

 There is a noticable difference in attitude between us older 
 generation Gators who can appreciate the development of a football 
 team over a season or two and the entitlement Gator fans that are 
 convinced that something has been stolen from them if the Gators don't 
 blow out every opponent. It is sad to me that so many Gator fans can't 
 enjoy everything that makes up a college football season because their 
 team can't meet their unrealistic standards.

 Go Gators...in all kinds of weather.

 Read more: 
 http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=165446#ixzz0zzpk
 oeqm
 - Original Message - From: Randy Lyons 
 gatorspo...@epbfi.com
 
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:47 AM
 Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses


 Atta girl, Cee. My feelings exactly, although more articulate. :)

 Randy


 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:03 AM
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

 You can't speak for everyone on the list, Scott.  I'm not 
 particularly disappointed in this team.  It's about what I was 
 expecting after the high-flying we've done over the past few years.  
 I'm willing to be satisfied

 with their performance so far because my expectations were realistic, 
 IMO.

 Cee

 - Original Message - From: Scott Lucas 
 floridagat...@yahoo.com
 
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses


 Agreed.  And there is not a single person on this list who is not a 
 little

 disappointed in this team so far.

 We are lucky to be undefeated.  'Bama is going to kick our a$$es



 Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its not the win we suffer from.. its their lack of making plays we 
 suffer from.  There isnt one person on this list who didnt think we 
 shouldnt have been ahead the entire game.


 On Sep 18, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote:

 No one suffers a win like Florida Gator fans...


 - Original Message - From: Scott Lucas
 floridagat...@yahoo.com
 
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses


 Neither can Demps.  26 for 73 yards  Let's keep running him 
 between the tackles...

 What you got for that?



 lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 ...And don't forget; Brantley 

RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

2010-09-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
Uhm, and I quote:

Agreed.  And there is not a single person on this list who is not a little
disappointed in this team so far.  

We are lucky to be undefeated.  'Bama is going to kick our a$$es 

I am not disappointed in this 3-0 team.  I would like to see improvement,
yes.  But if we win every game by fumbling and bumbling, I will be okay with
that too.

Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:28 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

I put words in whose mouth?  I speak for myself... I am disgusted by
underachieving.  I don't accept it from my the flag football team or
basketball team that I coach.  

If we are over expecting, you can only blame our coaching staff for their
closed practice policy where all we here are suppositions and glory storied
about how great we are...

Where is the truth?  Are we this bad, underachieving, or just not good?  Did
I put those words in your mouth too?



Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote:

 Oh come on now, you are offended by someone saying entitlement Gator??  
I think it was incredibly offensive for Scott to put words in my mouth 
and say everyone on the list feels the way he does.  I also believe 
many Gator fans feel entitled.  My goodness, we went into that game 
expecting it to be close and while we made it closer than it should 
have been, we still won an away SEC game by 14 points!  And we suck...

While this team and coaches have a ways to go to be operating at peak 
efficiency, they are doing quite well given all the mistakes that are 
being made.  I have watched a lot of football these past 3 weeks and 
there isn't a team out there that we can't beat.  Of course, there are 
many teams that we could lose to as well.  This team reminds me of 
Alabama last year.  They struggled early in games against inferior 
opponents, but eventually put it altogether to finish the season incredibly
strong.

We have that same opportunity, but the play calling does need to 
improve and the players need to stop making mistakes.

But, even if we make no improvement, I only see one sure loss and that 
is at Bama.  USC will be tough, but I think we have the run defense to 
stop Lattimore and Garcia won't beat us in the air.  LSU? Nope, too
inconsistent.
Ugh?  Nope, the are done.  KY, Vandy, MS State?  Nope.  F$U, not on 
your life.

We are a very good football team that everyone thinks is a finesse team 
when we are not.  We do need to find an identity on offense, the dive 
play was great to set up a Tebow run, but is ineffective to set up a 
Brantley option pitch.

At this point in the young season, there are only 33 undefeated teams 
and 80 have already lost at least once.  If we were VaTech or Ole Miss, 
then we would have something to complain about! Stay strong, remember 
in all kinds of weather, and right now the weather is pretty good at 3-0.


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

Hmm...  entitlement Gator fans is awfully strong comment when you 
dont really know that person.  Id be careful using that reference again 
in the future.

And this will be my last reply on this list.



On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:10 PM, ala...@gatorzone.com wrote:

 There is a noticable difference in attitude between us older 
 generation Gators who can appreciate the development of a football 
 team over a season or two and the entitlement Gator fans that are 
 convinced that something has been stolen from them if the Gators 
 don't blow out every opponent. It is sad to me that so many Gator 
 fans can't enjoy everything that makes up a college football season 
 because their team can't meet their unrealistic standards.

 Go Gators...in all kinds of weather.

 Read more: 
 http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=165446#ixzz0zzp
 k
 oeqm
 - Original Message - From: Randy Lyons 
 gatorspo...@epbfi.com
 
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:47 AM
 Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses


 Atta girl, Cee. My feelings exactly, although more articulate. :)

 Randy


 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cecilia
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:03 AM
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Take off your orange and blue glasses

 You can't speak for everyone on the list, Scott.  I'm not 
 particularly disappointed in this team.  It's about what I was 
 expecting after the high-flying we've done over the past few years.
 I'm willing to be satisfied

 with their performance so far because my expectations were

[gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions

2010-09-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
Okay, I don't profess to be a football expert, but I do think I know little
about the game.  Everything below is my opinion only and no matter how I
state anything, nothing is fact, my opinion only!
 
The Gators are not as bad as they have looked at times and I don't think we
have seen them as good as they can be either.  There have been several
glaring errors - poor snaps, penalties, blown coverages.  And some supposed
errors - wrong people on the field, bad play calls, coaches not seeing the
fake FG and calling TO.
 
The problem with evaluating this team for me, is that I only get to watch on
TV, so I don't get to see the whole field and make my own determination if
the play calling is effective and/or if the QB read was correct on the play.
Having said that, here is what I have seen:
 
- Watching on TV which typically shows 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage
on the main shot, you will usually only see 7 or 8 defensive players.  That
means that the safeties at least are playing very deep and keeping
everything in front of them, the classic Tampa2 defense.  Contrary to what
the spread offense implies, Urban is a very conservative coach, if the D is
keeping you from the deep ball, the reads go to the short crossing routes
where our speedy WRs go against LBs.  This is not flashy and doesn't result
in 2 minute scoring drives, but it is taking what the defense is giving us.
The thing I can't see on TV is are our WRs getting any separation when they
are running off the coverage?  The alternative is to go the Arkansas route,
where the offense is designed to go deep and will try that no matter what,
the result is interceptions when it doesn't work.
 
- The dive play.  This is really part of the triple option and the reason it
goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above.  If the D
plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs
will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play.  When this
happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole
and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain.  So,
we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the
whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing
routes and wide runs work better.
 
The biggest issue with this team however is the intangibles.  Identity and
team chemistry, this team is lacking.  As far as team chemistry I can only
guess at the dynamics, but given some of the quoted chatter and rumors that
were swirling, I think there were/are some, dare I say it... entitlement
players on the team.  Guys that thought just because I am here, I should
play.  this goes for both the upperclassmen and freshman.  We have had 5
years of top notch recruiting classes and there are a lot of guys who have
paid their dues and expect to play and there are a lot of newbies that are
great and expect to play.  When you have a guy like Pouncey talking smack
before the season and then going out and having the worst performance by a
Center I have ever seen, it doesn't help matters.
 
The identity issue is related to the above, but has different issues on
offense and defense.  On offense, we started out trying to run the same
spread we ran for the past 3 years, that won't work because we don't have
#15.  So the coaches have been trying to figure out what we are good at and
create this hybrid spread-pro set offense.  If you are a young player on the
team and you are used to this fast paced high scoring machine, it has to
affect your psyche.  It appears we are finally getting into some type of
rythym, but is still seems choppy.  Q1 against UK was great, Q2 back to the
basics, Q3 much better. We need to find the consistent play and play
calling.
 
On defense the problem is too many good players, a nice problem to have.  We
have so many guys with roughly the same level of experience, we keep
rotating them in and out, but all it takes is for one of them to be playing
on the wrong play that he doesn't know how to cover or against a mismatch
WR.  Cody Riggs, is an awesome special teams player, but got abused in the
KY game.
 
Last, the Bama game worries me, but all big games make me feel this way.  I
have watched Bama play 3 times this year, and while they may have won more
impressively, they aren't as great as everyone is making them out to be.
They make mistakes and had to come back from a double digit deficit against
Arky and had to rely on several incredible Arky mistakes to win.  I think we
can score on Bama, the question is can we stop them from scoring.  Ingram
and Richardson are big, fast bruising backs, they can't be arm tackled and
that is a weakness of our team in my opinion.  We seem to have a hard time
wrapping up players and taking them down, they always seem to get that extra
2 or 3 yards after contact.  Add in the mix Julio at WR and we have another
big guy to take down.  I think this will be relatively high scoring for what
are 

[gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions

2010-09-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
Okay, I don't profess to be a football expert, but I do think I know little
about the game.  Everything below is my opinion only and no matter how I
state anything, nothing is fact, my opinion only!
 
The Gators are not as bad as they have looked at times and I don't think we
have seen them as good as they can be either.  There have been several
glaring errors - poor snaps, penalties, blown coverages.  And some supposed
errors - wrong people on the field, bad play calls, coaches not seeing the
fake FG and calling TO.
 
The problem with evaluating this team for me, is that I only get to watch on
TV, so I don't get to see the whole field and make my own determination if
the play calling is effective and/or if the QB read was correct on the play.
Having said that, here is what I have seen:
 
- Watching on TV which typically shows 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage
on the main shot, you will usually only see 7 or 8 defensive players.  That
means that the safeties at least are playing very deep and keeping
everything in front of them, the classic Tampa2 defense.  Contrary to what
the spread offense implies, Urban is a very conservative coach, if the D is
keeping you from the deep ball, the reads go to the short crossing routes
where our speedy WRs go against LBs.  This is not flashy and doesn't result
in 2 minute scoring drives, but it is taking what the defense is giving us.
The thing I can't see on TV is are our WRs getting any separation when they
are running off the coverage?  The alternative is to go the Arkansas route,
where the offense is designed to go deep and will try that no matter what,
the result is interceptions when it doesn't work.
 
- The dive play.  This is really part of the triple option and the reason it
goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above.  If the D
plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs
will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play.  When this
happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole
and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain.  So,
we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the
whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing
routes and wide runs work better.
 
The biggest issue with this team however is the intangibles.  Identity and
team chemistry, this team is lacking.  As far as team chemistry I can only
guess at the dynamics, but given some of the quoted chatter and rumors that
were swirling, I think there were/are some, dare I say it... entitlement
players on the team.  Guys that thought just because I am here, I should
play.  this goes for both the upperclassmen and freshman.  We have had 5
years of top notch recruiting classes and there are a lot of guys who have
paid their dues and expect to play and there are a lot of newbies that are
great and expect to play.  When you have a guy like Pouncey talking smack
before the season and then going out and having the worst performance by a
Center I have ever seen, it doesn't help matters.
 
The identity issue is related to the above, but has different issues on
offense and defense.  On offense, we started out trying to run the same
spread we ran for the past 3 years, that won't work because we don't have
#15.  So the coaches have been trying to figure out what we are good at and
create this hybrid spread-pro set offense.  If you are a young player on the
team and you are used to this fast paced high scoring machine, it has to
affect your psyche.  It appears we are finally getting into some type of
rythym, but is still seems choppy.  Q1 against UK was great, Q2 back to the
basics, Q3 much better. We need to find the consistent play and play
calling.
 
On defense the problem is too many good players, a nice problem to have.  We
have so many guys with roughly the same level of experience, we keep
rotating them in and out, but all it takes is for one of them to be playing
on the wrong play that he doesn't know how to cover or against a mismatch
WR.  Cody Riggs, is an awesome special teams player, but got abused in the
KY game.
 
Last, the Bama game worries me, but all big games make me feel this way.  I
have watched Bama play 3 times this year, and while they may have won more
impressively, they aren't as great as everyone is making them out to be.
They make mistakes and had to come back from a double digit deficit against
Arky and had to rely on several incredible Arky mistakes to win.  I think we
can score on Bama, the question is can we stop them from scoring.  Ingram
and Richardson are big, fast bruising backs, they can't be arm tackled and
that is a weakness of our team in my opinion.  We seem to have a hard time
wrapping up players and taking them down, they always seem to get that extra
2 or 3 yards after contact.  Add in the mix Julio at WR and we have another
big guy to take down.  I think this will be relatively high scoring for what
are 

RE: [gatortalk] Technical Talk Opinions

2010-09-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
There are other reasons you run that play 
- it helps identify defensive assignments
- it is a part of the triple option (dive, QB keeps, pitch)
 
It is up to the QB to read the play and determine if he is going to give it.
Without a true option QB though you almost need to make up your mind before
you read the play, otherwise by the time you pull it out to run the QB, he
better be fast, big or both.
 
Ken K
MNGator

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:42 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Technical Talk  Opinions


Ken-
Very interesting comments.
I especially appreciate the item below. It is reassuring to know that there
is a method in their madness.
Helen




- The dive play.  This is really part of the triple option and the reason it
goes up the middle is partly because of the explanation above.  If the D
plays 2 deep safeties and we complete a bunch of crossing patterns, the LBs
will tend to creep back to better cover the crossing play.  When this
happens, if the OL is blocking well, our speedy RB will pop through the hole
and have the opportunity to make a couple of guys miss for a big gain.  So,
we keep running what is seemingly an unsuccessful play over and over, the
whole purpose being to keep the LBs closer to the line so the crossing
routes and wide runs work better.

 






-- 

Helen Huntley
(727) 823-3801
www.helenhuntley.com


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2008 National Football Champions   |   
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Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form

2010-09-30 Thread Ken Kirkley
Please make it stop!!!
 
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:13 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form



Pan Flute - Zamfir

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

 

Peter Pan - peanut butter

Pan - flute

 

This is a dumber thread than arguing over how good our team isn't.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 

 

 

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From: Badrish dbadr...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:46:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

Peter Pan - Fantasy 

Pan Pizza - Slurrp!

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:

 

On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:






Major Wright - football. 

Major Parker - basketball

 

 

Parker Brothers - Monopoly

 

Peter Parker - Batman

 

 

I like this game!

 

-Zeb

 

 

Dick Sargent - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched

 

Dick York - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched

 

Sergeant York - most decorated soldier of World War I

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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
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Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
http://www.gatornet.us/ 

 

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GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
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2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to form

2010-09-30 Thread Ken Kirkley
Jay,
 
Take your right hand and make a fist.
 
Extend your thumb like you are hitchhiking.
 
Move thumb towards eye at very fast speed.
 
Don't stop motion until thumb contacts eyeball.
 
Repeat.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form



Slim Jim - Slim Whitman

 

Whitman Sampler - Boxcar Willie

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:18 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

 

Please make it stop!!!

 

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:13 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

Pan Flute - Zamfir

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

 

Peter Pan - peanut butter

Pan - flute

 

This is a dumber thread than arguing over how good our team isn't.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Badrish dbadr...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:46:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Gators' Jeff Demps returning to
form

Peter Pan - Fantasy 

Pan Pizza - Slurrp!

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:

 

On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:

 


Major Wright - football. 

Major Parker - basketball

 

 

Parker Brothers - Monopoly

 

Peter Parker - Batman

 

 

I like this game!

 

-Zeb

 

 

Dick Sargent - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched

 

Dick York - Darrin Stephens on Bewitched

 

Sergeant York - most decorated soldier of World War I

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
http://www.gatornet.us/ 

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
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1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
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1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Brantley

2010-10-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
Reputable journalist
 
Tweets from practice, hmmm, reporters aren't allowed at practice, so that
would mean someone on the team is tweeting about this.  Highly unlikely.
Didn't we also hear last week that McElroy was hurt with a bad thigh bruise
and was limited in practice all week?  I am not worried, we can beat LSU
without Brantley, but I think we will have him and handle the hat easily.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:15 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Brantley


Just heard this from a reputable journalist friend of mine...
 
Seeing some Tweets that Brantley aint feelin so hot in practice.. he's
participating and throwing.. but has been limited.
 
As Scooby says, Ruh roh!
 
 

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[gatortalk] And here we go again...

2010-10-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
 

All along I have been defending this team, figuring they just needed to jell
and by this point in the season we would be cruising.  Even after last week,
I thought it was our mistakes that Bama took advantage of to win.  But after
this week I am moving closer to Scott's position.

The coaching is abhorent, the players intensity is terrible and we are still
making too many mistakes.  I am tired of Adazzio telling us this is one of
the best o lines in the country.  It isn't even close, in fact there are
probably 10 DII lines better.  We can't pass protect, we can't open holes
for runs, but we can pull our center just like a guard for whatever good
that does us.

This season is not over, we still control our destiny as far as the SEC
goes, but we need to fix lots of things now.  I am not sure it isn't a good
idea for Urban to take over play calling responsibility, because we are way
too predictable.  As far as our D goes, our sole mission on that last drive
had to be keep everything in front of you.  Horrible.

Congrats to LSU, they came in and played their best game of the year.


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:42 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting!

What good does that do for winning a game or fixing our obvious problems?
Can you contribute to the playcalling or the defensive play with those years
of experience?

Congratulations Leon, you are an old Gator fan.  That and 99 cents will get
you coffee at McDonald's. Want a cookie with that?  Oh wait, I've only been
a gator fan for 30+ plus years... I guess you are better... but then I can
get a coffee for 99 cents too.

What is your point?!?  Are you claiming to be more of a Gator?  Really?
Really...?

Please... 

You are no better.  We are all Gators.  We see things differently, some
settle for less, some expect more.  No reason to look down on others because
you have been around longer.  You think have some special entitlement or is
that just reserved for newer gators?  Would we not welcome a recent
graduate here???  Do we even have any???  Or have we run them off with
comments like yours?

60 year fan?  Grow up.  







lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote:

I've been a full time Gator fan for over 60 years. Try some of that.
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really?  Really?!?  

I want some of whatever Leon is on



lpolh...@bellsouth.net wrote:

We're going to win this game.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:20:04
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Ok... D got a stop... Can this horrible thing we call an offense do
anything?

 




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Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 10:13:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Debose sighting!


The D in particular is going to have to step it up and get a stop! Go
Gators!


Shane FordSent from my iPhone
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Once again, special teams can save this team... now can our O or D do 
SOMETHING to try to win?!?!!?
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[gatortalk] Talk about the fake FG

2010-10-10 Thread Ken Kirkley
I am never one to complain about the refs, as I believe they are human (at
least most except the Childress crew) and are apt to err from time to time.
If you play well, generally any officiating mistakes don't come into play.
 
I have seen a lot of people complaining about the fake FG, there are several
issues with the call:
- since  the holders knee was on the ground and no kicker behind him, was he
down?
- if it was a backwards pass and it hit the ground, why was the kicker able
to advance the fumble on 4th down?
- was it a forward pass that hit the ground?
 
As to the holders knee on the ground, that is legal.  The rule states that
it is okay if you are simulating a kick.  While you could interpret that has
a kicker must be there, it is accepted as once you line up and snap the ball
with the kicker in position, that satisfies the simulating a kick
requirement.
 
The second point, a backwards pass is different than a fumble.  While a
fumble can only be advanced by the fumbler on 4th down, a backwards pass is
deemed a loose ball and can be picked up by anyone on the offense.
 
Was it a forward pass?  This one is close and is probably the best place for
Gator fans to argue.  The rules state that when in doubt, it is a forward
pass. Here is the rule:
 


Forward and Backward Pass
ARTICLE 2. a. A forward pass is determined by the point where the ball
first strikes the ground, a player, an official or anything beyond the spot
of the pass. All other passes are backward passes. When in question, it is
a forward pass rather than a backward pass when thrown in or behind the
neutral zone.


 
 I don't think you can look at the replay and tell definitively, you would
have needed a camera exactly along the line of the pass to determine.  You
can google parallax error to figue out why the camera angle we saw wouldn't
necessarily be accurate.  It does look like it was forward slightly and the
ref should have ruled so initially, when he didn't there wasn't enough video
evidence to overturn.
 
Unfortunately, this call didn't go our way.  This same play was used against
us two years ago and we should have been in FG safe, especially on a 54 yard
kick, especially on the edges.   A block of a kick that long will come in
the middle, the kick will come out low and quick.  The guys on the edge had
to hold contain, they weren't going to block the kick.  I blame this on the
coaches, just like Kirby Smart was jumping up and down for the jump pass
last week, I was yelling at the TV to watch the biggest gambler in football
and the fake.  Nobody listened...
 
 
Ken K
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RE: [gatortalk] What bugs me

2010-10-11 Thread Ken Kirkley
To be fair, they did ge a first down at the 3 and scored on 3rd down with 6
seconds left.  If they had missed that play, they still had one more down to
go. 


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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:37 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] What bugs me

Is not the forward/backwards pass issue.

I am somewhat bothered that we didn't see the play coming. We did in our
living room. The distance was longer than the kicker had ever completed in
his career, and - even if successful - would merely have given LSU overtime
on the road against a loud raucous crowd. It seemed obvious that Mile would
try to win the game in regulation.

What bothers me is that, when the first down as picked up, LSU players were
running to the line to spike the ball on 1st down to stop the clock. I think
that LSU was out of time outs at that point, having used its last to set up
the fake previously.

Had normal football been played, 6 or so seconds would have run off the
clock and LSU would have spiked the ball on first down; leaving it three
tries (and not a lot of time) at the end zone. There is also the outside
change of a penalty on the offense for not being set, improper alignment,
too many players on the field, as often happens when one tries to run to the
line of scrimmage to spike the ball and stop the clock.

Instead, the official review acted as a free LSU timeout, giving it a
chance to freely substitute and be set when the clock started. More
importantly, LSU no longer had to waste first down on the spike - giving it
4 shots at the end zone instead of 3.

LSU scored on its fourth try; a try it would not have had but for the
official review.

-Zeb

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RE: [gatortalk] Endzone

2010-10-11 Thread Ken Kirkley
No, you are not missing anything.  Just add this to the list of many
mistakes we made in this game. 


Ken K
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To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Endzone

On the pass into the endzone, why didn't the defensive back just tackle the
receiver?  I think the worst that would have happen was that it would be a
penalty of half the distance but it would have taken time off the clock and
they would have had to kick a field goal since they would not have had time
to run another play.
Am I missing something here?

J. Fran Lasseter

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I completely agree on our not seeing the fake. When they called that
timeout, I recall wondering why they would do that... then the light came on
and I started yelling at the monitor, Watch the fake!. It is completely
unimaginable that our coaches wouldn't see the same thing. Heck, I'm not an
expert and it seemed obvious to me. I mean, this particular fake they do is
like our jump pass. They pull it out two or three times a year in just this
type of situation, and the timeout was a dead give away.

On the free timeout while under review, that was indeed unfortunate, but I
think the replay rules solve more problems than they cause. In this case, it
was just our bad luck that it worked against us that way. I guess I'd be
more incensed about that, and the bad fake punt call, if I felt that we had
outplayed them and that we really deserved the game. In my mind this loss is
all on the coaches.

I'm also a bit more relaxed than in earlier games because now I can finally
just accept that we're not a very good team this year. They're still my team
and they still have my full support, but I can finally stop worrying about
polls and national championships and just take it one game at a time. It'll
be interesting to see if we can beat Mullen. 

Rob



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On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:

 Is not the forward/backwards pass issue.
 
 I am somewhat bothered that we didn't see the play coming. We did in 
 our
living room. The distance was longer than the kicker had ever completed in
his career, and - even if successful - would merely have given LSU overtime
on the road against a loud raucous crowd. It seemed obvious that Mile would
try to win the game in regulation.
 
 What bothers me is that, when the first down as picked up, LSU players
were running to the line to spike the ball on 1st down to stop the clock. I
think that LSU was out of time outs at that point, having used its last to
set up the fake previously.
 
 Had normal football been played, 6 or so seconds would have run off 
 the
clock and LSU would have spiked the ball on first down; leaving it three
tries (and not a lot of time) at the end zone. There is also the outside
change of a penalty on the offense for not being set, improper alignment,
too many players on the field, as often happens when one tries to run to the
line of scrimmage to spike the ball and stop the clock.
 
 Instead, the official review acted as a free LSU timeout, giving it 
 a
chance to freely substitute and be set when the clock started. More
importantly, LSU no longer had to waste first down on the spike - giving it
4 shots at the end zone instead of 3.

 
 LSU scored on its fourth try; a try it would not have had but for the
official review.
 
 -Zeb
 
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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/11 3:00PM Edition, Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-11 Thread Ken Kirkley
I find this quote interesting, usually Meyer says that all playcalling is a
discussion and he has final say.  This time he says I'm involved...

 

Meyer said he heard the fans booing the play calling at Saturday night's
loss to LSU.

I think (Steve Addazio) has a tough job, Meyer said. Obviously he can
handle it. I'm very involved in the offense as well. ... An offense minus
big plays is tough in this day and age. How do you create big plays? You get
guys loose and hit 'em when they're open.


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Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:18 PM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/11 3:00PM
Edition, Courtesy of Shane Ford



Plenty of work to do, Meyer says



By Jeff Barlis mailto:barl...@gvillesun.com 
Gainesville SUN Online Sports Editor

Published: Monday, October 11, 2010 at 1:08 p.m. 
Last Modified: Monday, October 11, 2010 at 1:08 p.m. 

 

 

Florida coach Urban Meyer knows his team is lacking in some areas, but work
at practice is the key to turning around a struggling team, he said.

 We win championships as a team, and we fight through adversity as a team,
Meyer said Monday. I just want to make sure we avoid the poison that
affects college football teams.

Meyer addressed several points at his weekly meeting with the news media
Monday at UF:

I don't feel like we played great defense.

Red-zone efficiency is not where we want it. Lack of explosive plays ...
we're void of those right now. And taking care of the football. Those are
the core values of how to win a game.

We're not having those home-run shots. (Jeff) Demps being banged up, we see
a guy like (Andre) Debose can get some things done.

Meyer was not happy with the production of his offensive line.

I don't think we played great, he said. Very inconsistent. It seems the
moment you get one group back, then the skill positions get banged up. We're
anxious to get everyone back.

LSU became a blitz-a-thon. There are ways to relieve pressure ... but we
didn't do those things very well.

On the injury front, Meyer said Demps is feeling a lot better, but wasn't
ready for the LSU game. Offensive lineman Jon Halapio is doubtful after
surgery on his fractured finger Sunday. QB John Brantley has a sore shoulder
to go along with sore ribs and a sprained thumb. Safety Matt Elam and wide
receiver Deonte Thompson have concussions and are day-to-day.

Meyer said he heard the fans booing the play calling at Saturday night's
loss to LSU.

I think (Steve Addazio) has a tough job, Meyer said. Obviously he can
handle it. I'm very involved in the offense as well. ... An offense minus
big plays is tough in this day and age. How do you create big plays? You get
guys loose and hit 'em when they're open.

 

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
Scott,
 
Do you remember this??  Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems
from top to bottom right now.  Just wait till next year
 

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2007 at 7:26 PM 
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Aha! I found the problem!
 
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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Scott Lucas  wrote:



30 straight running plays worked.  He played to his team's strengths and his
opponent's weakness.  That is how you win.  You don't want to win?  


That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense...




He was playing on a knife edge.

Had the roles been reversed and either;

The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't
miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our
coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy.

How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively
enough - this year.

I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very
well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were
directed at Mullen during his time at UF. 

Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something
last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a
lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year.

We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his
temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress.
I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are
said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how
they were when he was paying attention to every little detail.

Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how
we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a
hurry.

The big question/debate seems to be this;

If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or
can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be
able to make the needed corrections?

Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are
convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due
to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel
that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this
year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary
to right the ship, or if seeing that doing things this way isn't good
enough, will once again retire (where I stand now).

Steve


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RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am
sorry.  
 
Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed
that he left.  While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he
seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department.
And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field
with the opportunity to make the play and win the game, they didn't.  
 
My hope is we can take these next two weeks and make the needed changes and
salvage something out of this season or this could be a turning point in our
program.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Oh, man! I had forgotten about the wheel. I remember printing that out and
it actually working 2 or 3 plays in a row. 


Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone 
Go Gators!

On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote:



Scott,
 
Do you remember this??  Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems
from top to bottom right now.  Just wait till next year
 


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floridagat...@yahoo.com   
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2007 at 7:26 PM 
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Dan Mullen's Playbook   
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Gatortalk.googlegroups.com
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Aha! I found the problem!
 
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Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM
To:  mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Scott Lucas  wrote:



30 straight running plays worked.  He played to his team's strengths and his
opponent's weakness.  That is how you win.  You don't want to win?  


That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense...




He was playing on a knife edge.

Had the roles been reversed and either;

The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't
miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our
coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy.

How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively
enough - this year.

I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very
well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were
directed at Mullen during his time at UF. 

Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something
last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a
lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year.

We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his
temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress.
I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are
said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how
they were when he was paying attention to every little detail.

Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how
we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a
hurry.

The big question/debate seems to be this;

If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or
can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be
able to make the needed corrections?

Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are
convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due
to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel
that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this
year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary
to right the ship, or if seeing that doing

RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
If that's what we needed to do to win, then why were you mocking it at the
time?  Come on, can't have it both ways.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:32 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Yeah, I remeber that... but you know something?  That's what we needed to do
to win, and we DID it!  

What do you think we need to do to win this year, and are we doing it?
 
I couldn't care less about predictable.  A win is a win.  Run it 30 times if
you have to.  Just about everyone on this list would rather have had a win
the other night with 30 straight runs.


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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:19:34 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Scott,
 
Do you remember this??  Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems
from top to bottom right now.  Just wait till next year
 

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Aha! I found the problem!
 
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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Scott Lucas  wrote:



30 straight running plays worked.  He played to his team's strengths and his
opponent's weakness.  That is how you win.  You don't want to win?  


That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense...




He was playing on a knife edge.

Had the roles been reversed and either;

The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't
miss a field goal, and that turned into a 14-10 loss or an OT loss, our
coaches would have been crucified for employing that same strategy.

How do I know? because they were attacked for not winning attractively
enough - this year.

I'm sure Mullen was glad to get the win - as he should be, but you know very
well that a lot of the same criticisms leveled at Addazio these days were
directed at Mullen during his time at UF. 

Not that I'm letting our coaching staff off of the hook. I heard something
last night that I found very disconcerting, if true, but it would explain a
lot of what we've been seeing with the team this year.

We all know about Meyer's re-invention after his health issues caused his
temporary retirement. Apparently that is still very much a work in progress.
I read that he has delegated so much of his former duties that practices are
said to be very disorganized - something that is the polar opposite of how
they were when he was paying attention to every little detail.

Considering the number of new staff members that weren't around to see how
we've done it before I could see how that could spiral out of control in a
hurry.

The big question/debate seems to be this;

If Meyer remains the head coach will we continue to do things this way, or
can/will he see that drastic measures need to be taken, and can/will he be
able to make the needed corrections?

Some of the message boards resemble the Zook era - there are some who are
convinced that he must go NOW, some who blindly refuse to question him due
to his resume here (until recently I was in this group), and some who feel
that said body of work should buy him at least a season of adjustment (this
year) to see if in fact he's willing and able to take the steps neccessary
to right the ship, or if seeing that doing things this way isn't good
enough, will once again retire (where I stand now).

Steve


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RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
Except, the spinwheel came out during the 2007 season.  We  lost 4 games
that year.  And while I will agree that our offense was better that year
than this (could it be worse?), it was still very predictable and even with
two of the best all time players Mullen couldn't win more than 9 games.
 
And as far as the players not having the ability, come on, they make plays
all game long and miss one and they don't have the ability?
 
I am not happy with this teams performance either, but to think it would
have been okay with Adazzio in another role is whistling past the graveyard.
We went through tremendous upheaval in our coaching staff this year and if
what Steve is saying is true, the foundation on which the program was built
is crumbling. The problems we are seeing on the field are systemic and
replacing one person will not right the ship.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


It's fine, I authored the initial thread, and I loved that wheel!
 
My point is, we may not have agreed with Mullen at the time, but it worked.
What we are doing now is just as predictable and more unimaginative AND
doesn't necessarily take the skills of our players into account.  You can't
say Mullen was wrong using Tebow and Harvin like he did... 
 
For some reason, this search for playmakers is the worst part.  As you
said, we had players on the field with a CHANCE but not the ability.


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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:33:41 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am
sorry.  
 
Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed
that he left.  While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he
seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department.
And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field
with the opportunity to make the play and win the game, they didn't.  
 
My hope is we can take these next two weeks and make the needed changes and
salvage something out of this season or this could be a turning point in our
program.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Oh, man! I had forgotten about the wheel. I remember printing that out and
it actually working 2 or 3 plays in a row. 


Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone 
Go Gators!

On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net wrote:



Scott,
 
Do you remember this??  Mullen was rather predictable too, we have problems
from top to bottom right now.  Just wait till next year
 


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date   https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Tue, Oct 2,
2007 at 7:26 PM 
subjecthttps://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif [gatortalk]
Dan Mullen's Playbook   
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Gatortalk.googlegroups.com http://gatortalk.googlegroups.com/   
  https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif

 

Aha! I found the problem!
 
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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:05 AM
To:  mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Scott Lucas  wrote:



30 straight running plays worked.  He played to his team's strengths and his
opponent's weakness.  That is how you win.  You don't want to win?  


That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense...




He was playing on a knife edge.

Had the roles been reversed and either;

The star running back didn't fumble in the red zone or the kicker didn't

RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
I think we are on the same page here.  I agree that this is Meyer's problem.
Everyone is saying we need to fire Adazzio, replace Brantley, etc.,etc.  We
have problems in every facet of the game from play calling to execution to
chemistry and leadership.  Replacing one person won't solve the problem, we
need to find the root cause and fix that.  Is it the disorganization in
practice?  I don't know but we better find out soon!
 
And yes we have players making plays all game.  Janoris Jenkins has 2
interceptions on the year, yet missed covering the kicker on the LSU fake
FG, Carl Moore has been making plays, Gillislee has been productive.  If
nobody was making plays, we would be getting blown out instead of losing at
the last second.
 
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:31 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Come on!  If we were making plays all game we wouldn't be driving for game
tieing field goals with 2 minutes to go or being blown out by 20+ points!
You cannot believe they are making plays all game!!!  Seriously?
 
Adazzio is the assistant head coach.  He is number 2.  He has been there and
done that.  If practice is not going smoothly because too many new faces as
Steve suggests, Adazzio is the fiery, motivational leader that isn't
leading?  He doesn't have some level or responsibility to take charge of
that?  Why would he sit idlely by and let that happen?  He was there last
year, he knows what should be done and how.  Is he afraid of stepping on
Meyer's toes?  Surely Meyer sees the disorganization, shouldn't he step in
or have his assistant head coach take charge?

Something is amiss... and it does start with coaching.  I stated that in an
earlier post.  I also stated that these highly skilled players didn't just
start sucking.  They are not being coached up correctly.  They didn't
suddenly stop running fast.  They didn't stop making plays or unlearn how to
catch.  They are not being put into a position to maximize their ability,
and that goes exactly in line with what I was saying about designing around
your personnel.  All of these kids are Meyer recruits.  They should fit or
you have a plan to utilize their skills, if they don't and you don't, then
don't recruit them.  

It seems as if people are afraid to point the finger at Meyer.  They would
rather pinpoint Adazzio and, while he may be the root of the problem, its up
to Meyer to fix.  That's why he is paid the big bucks.  I'm glad he is
finally saying we need a change.  After the previous two losses it was all
about excuses.  
 
 

 

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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:53:17 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Except, the spinwheel came out during the 2007 season.  We  lost 4 games
that year.  And while I will agree that our offense was better that year
than this (could it be worse?), it was still very predictable and even with
two of the best all time players Mullen couldn't win more than 9 games.
 
And as far as the players not having the ability, come on, they make plays
all game long and miss one and they don't have the ability?
 
I am not happy with this teams performance either, but to think it would
have been okay with Adazzio in another role is whistling past the graveyard.
We went through tremendous upheaval in our coaching staff this year and if
what Steve is saying is true, the foundation on which the program was built
is crumbling. The problems we are seeing on the field are systemic and
replacing one person will not right the ship.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


It's fine, I authored the initial thread, and I loved that wheel!
 
My point is, we may not have agreed with Mullen at the time, but it worked.
What we are doing now is just as predictable and more unimaginative AND
doesn't necessarily take the skills of our players into account.  You can't
say Mullen was wrong using Tebow and Harvin like he did... 
 
For some reason, this search for playmakers is the worst part.  As you
said, we had players on the field with a CHANCE but not the ability.


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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:33:41 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen


Just to apologize to Scott, I didn't mean to call you out specifically, I am
sorry.  
 
Mullen wasn't exactly a fan favorite and I wasn't necessarily disappointed
that he left.  While Adazzio is a fiery coach that can motivate people, he
seems to be on the same level as Lynn Amadee in the creativity department.
And has been stated in the last two games, we still had players on the field

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
I had the thought that Brantley might transfer after this year if things
don't improve.  He is in his 4th year, so should be on track to graduate.
He would then be able to transfer to a D1 school that offers a masters
program that UF does not and play next year.
 
I am not advocating this, but if we refuse to use his abilities we are
better off letting Burton get the snaps now so we can be better in the
future.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen



I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until the offensive line learns
to pass block. It will make listening to the radio broadcast a bit awkward,
but it already is a bit slanted with the family connection. I get tired of
hearing quotes like Johnny did his best to get that ball there and the
receivers just need to make those catches, when the unbiased comment should
have been, Johnny seems to be having problems with the pressure and isn't
getting the ball to his receivers.

 

Let the flaming begin.

 

Ducking for cover.

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

 


From what I gather Loeffler is respected for his knowledge and ability, and
he was the one that has designed the Brantley half of our offensive
identity. Through no fault of his, and to some extent, Brantley's, this has
been the less effective side of our offense.

I remember someone commenting on how much more the OL seemed to want to
block for Burton than they do for Brantley. The way I understand it, it has
nothing to do with favoring one over the other, but all to do with the fact
that they've been trained to block, and have a greater comfort level with
the plays that are run with Burton at QB.

Since Meyer also has a greater comfort level with the spread option than he
does with the spread, going forward we'll likely see Loeffler's (and
Brantley's) contributions in smaller percentages than we have so far.

John Vega  wrote:

I'm curious about the QB coach; Loeffler.

 

Is he not working out; or has he been stifled by Addazio.

 

Given his NFL coaching experience, he seems like the logical guy to help
retool this offense with Brantley, unless he has been a bust.

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RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
I'm not sure I buy the whole zone blocking thing anyway.  Even in a pro-set
offense the line does zone blocking and you have pulling guards, etc.  I
think the problem is too many missed assignments, rarely having a back in to
block and when we do, he misses.
 
In 2006 our most valuable player was Billy Latsko the FB.  We need to go
back to that set and then we will be able to run.  
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen


In an earlier post I touched on the issues that this O-Line has with the
zone/read blocking which they have to do.  I have an opposite opinion.  In
the first half, in which we zone block for this spread nightmare, we are not
doing well at all.  However, when we let them pass protect and run block
normally in the second half, it works!
 
I think there is some merit to them not being ready to do both equally well.
But then if they do one well, why not run it all the time?  We have been
effective in the second half when we let Brantley be Brantley.

I also concur that it is not wholly Brantley's fault.  He has had more than
his fair share of drops.  I do want to point out that the sore thumb is NOT
helping matters and explains the errant passes.  Hopefully he heals up in
the next 2 weeks.
 
I do not think we need to push Burton into the starting role or take away
Brantley's reps.  What he needs is the offense to work to his strength and
the O-line's strength which seems to be a more pro style drop back and block
offense.  It is NOT what we have been doing in every first half to date.
 
We are forcing two square pegs into one round hole-- Brantley and the
O-line.  Both are not running the spread well, but both do better when we
open it up.
 
 

 

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From: Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:23:59 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen


I think it's a shame that we can't tailor our offense to play to the
strengths of a passing QB.  Oh, wait!  We did that in 2005-2006, didn't we?
Why are we unable to do it now?  Why can't we dust off the playbooks from
2006 and run that offense?  
 
Ken, I have to agree with you on your thoughts for Brantley.  It would be
hard to think he's not at least giving it serious thought.  The worst part
is if I were the father of a passing QB son, I would NEVER let him play for
Coach Meyer after how I've witnessed him nearly get Brantley killed trying
to pretend like he's a QB that he's not - JMHO.  Jay, do you have room under
that canoe?  :-)


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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:05:10 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen


I had the thought that Brantley might transfer after this year if things
don't improve.  He is in his 4th year, so should be on track to graduate.
He would then be able to transfer to a D1 school that offers a masters
program that UF does not and play next year.
 
I am not advocating this, but if we refuse to use his abilities we are
better off letting Burton get the snaps now so we can be better in the
future.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:07 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen



I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until the offensive line learns
to pass block. It will make listening to the radio broadcast a bit awkward,
but it already is a bit slanted with the family connection. I get tired of
hearing quotes like Johnny did his best to get that ball there and the
receivers just need to make those catches, when the unbiased comment should
have been, Johnny seems to be having problems with the pressure and isn't
getting the ball to his receivers.

 

Let the flaming begin.

 

Ducking for cover.

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

 


From what I gather Loeffler is respected for his knowledge and ability, and
he was the one that has designed the Brantley half of our offensive
identity. Through no fault of his, and to some extent, Brantley's, this has
been the less effective side of our offense.

I remember someone commenting on how much more the OL seemed to want to
block for Burton than they do for Brantley. The way I understand it, it has
nothing to do with favoring one over the other, but all to do with the fact
that they've been trained to block, and have a greater comfort level with
the plays that are run with Burton at QB.

Since Meyer also has a greater comfort level with the spread option than he
does

[gatortalk] Revisionist History re: Cam Newton

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
During the Auburn Arkansas game on Saturday they made a statement regarding
Cam's transfer, basically saying he decided to transfer after Tebow
announced he was coming back for his senior year.  That didn't sound right
to me, primarily because it isn't true.
 
Cam was arrested 11/21/08 for throwing the Heisman out the window, he
announced on 1/05/09 that he was transferring to Blinn CC, Tebow announced
he was coming back at the NC celebration on 1/12/09.  So a full week before
Tebow announces, somehow Cam already knew...  At the time remember, Cam was
suspended from the team and Tebow was in Miami for bowl prep.  Cam
transferred for the simple reason that he had been suspended from the team
for comitting a criminal act, he had the opportunity to rejoin the team but
took the option to transfer so he could playing time, not because Meyer
kicked him off the team.  He had the same opportunity to rejoin the team as
Chris Rainey, bu we keep hearing about the double standard of Meyer.
 
I wish Cam all the best in the world, but the adoration that is being piled
on him while casually dismissing the 'incident' is just wrong. UF still gets
raked over the coals for having 30 arrests - guess what Cam was one of
those, so why doesn't his arrest transfer with him???
 
Also, Cam is the QB he is today because he transferred.  The year as a
starter in CC was what he needed, he wouldn't have gotten the reps as the
backup or 3rd string that he got as the starter at Blinn.  That is what made
him the better QB today.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For10/23, Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-25 Thread Ken Kirkley
I think it is interesting that the universities all complain about the
agents on campus, yet they use the same company, IMG, that is the largest
agent service around.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but it would seem if IMG wants the commission off
of licensing, the colleges and universities would have a heavy economic hand
to swing in regards to the agent issues.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:47 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN
For10/23, Courtesy of Shane Ford


I think this is the biggest company: 
About The Collegiate Licensing Company
CLC is a division of global sports and entertainment company IMG. Founded in
1981, CLC is the oldest and largest collegiate licensing agency in the U.S.
and represents nearly 200 colleges, universities, bowl games, athletic
conferences, the Heisman Trophy and the NCAA. Its mission is to be the
guiding force in collegiate trademark licensing and one of the top sports
licensing firms in the country. Headquartered in Atlanta, CLC provides
full-service capabilities in brand protection, brand management and brand
development. For more information, visit  http://www.clc.com/ www.clc.com
or  http://www.imgworld.com/ www.imgworld.com.




On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:29 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:



On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Helen Huntley wrote:



Other schools do this too.
FYI-Here is an editorial regarding FSU cracking down on Bradenton Southeast
High School's use of the Seminole logo:
http://www.bradenton.com/2010/09/19/2587869/seminoles-vs-seminoles-logo-war.
html


It might be a different school, but I would wager that it is the same
licensing company.

This may be the story that everyone seems to be missing, that one licensing
company is acting much more heavy-handed than companies had in the past,
that the high schools are suffering, and that the Universities are reaping
the bad press.

-Zeb




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[gatortalk] I've gotta good feeling...

2010-10-25 Thread Ken Kirkley
This off week came at the perfect time, it has allowed everyone to sit back
calm down and look at this season in the grand scheme of things.  It has
given the football team a chance to heal physically and it has given the
coaches an extra week to fix the problems.  It has even given me a chance to
go back and re-watch the last three games, boy, what a joy!
 
At the risk of being labeled a Polly Anna, we are not as bad as we have
looked.  In fact, for as bad as we have played we easily could have won the
last two games.  Of course, we could have just as easily been blown out.
 
What I am seeing with this team is conservative play calling, poor execution
by players and turnovers.  With bad play calling and poor execution, we
still would have won the last two on talent alone.  Throw in turnovers at
inopportune times and it spelled doom. 
 
Playcalling - I am not sure if it's the plays being called or the scheme.  I
watch a lot of football and there are a couple of plays that we just don't
run.  One is WR crossing routes off the line - this makes the defense make a
choice immediately as to who is going to cover who, more often than not one
of the WRs will get separation and be open.  This is an especially important
play for us as our OL is not providing the protection for our guys to get
open downfield, and most D's are playing a cover 2 most of the time, leaving
2 safeties deep to double on the long ball.  The second thing that is
missing is misdirection - based on how we line up and certain tells (look at
RBs and OL slightly angled in the direction we are going), not every player
but enough that a LB who has watched enough film during the week can
probably guess right 80% of the time which direction we are running.  A
misdirection play will help because they now have to wait before attacking
the hole.  The third big missing play is a simple slant or crossing route
from our slot receivers.  These guys will usually be covered by a LB coming
across the middle and we should be able to win that battle, but we never
seem to run the play.  The last thing is audibles at the line.  I don't know
if Brantley is allowed to or not, but last week we had at least 2 plays
where the corner came on a blitz and the WR was left uncovered as the
safeties had crept up to cover the run.  A simple hot audible and it would
have been a TD, but instead we handed off to a RB both times.
 
Execution - Who was the coach when asked about his team's execution replied
I'm all for it?  Bottom line is we have very talented players who more
often than not are in position to make plays, but don't.  I don't know if is
mental or what, but they have the physical attributes but tank.  Brantley
with off-target throws, we have seen him zip it in at time, but he is
inconsistent.  Deonte with the drops, numerous OL whiffing on blocks, DBs
who can't tackle, etc.  I have a hard time attributing this to coaching as
this coaching staff has been successful in the past, yes there are a lot of
changes, but at the same time there is a lot of holdover too.
 
Turnovers - Anybody else equate the return of fumbilitis with the return of
Stan Drayton? Wasn't that the big knock on him when he left?  Turnovers are
killing us, we fix this and things will get better in a hurry.
 
As for this weekend, I'm as nervous as I have been in a long time for a
Cocktail Party, but I think we will come out strong and with something to
prove.  Ugh is going to come out and think they can throw it all over the
field like they have the past 3 games (against UT, UK and Vandy).  They are
going to find out that even with 3 losses, we are bit more formidable
opponent than they have seen recently and if they want to try and use AJ
Jones, bring it on, I say we end up with at least 3 picks this weekend.  If
we don't turn the ball over, Gators win 34-17.  If we turn it over, someone
better rush Woody to the hospital...
 
Ken K
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RE: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot

2010-10-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
Or he could be saying something to just say something because fans and media
need to here SOMETHING.  Urban has always kept things close to the vest and
I have never put much stock into what he says, but as Steve said a few weeks
back, the urgency in practices has been missing, maybe this is to what he is
referring.
 
I still stand by my opinion that we are not that bad.  We are inconsistent
and have made very bad plays at very bad times.  I think the team chemistry
is a huge issue, think about this sequence:

- having highly touted freshman come in being cocky 
- having the senior offensive leader crack back at them through the media
- senior leader then goes out and lays the biggest egg ever
- no playmakers, but a lot of young guys on the sideline that show glimpses
of brilliance (and inexperience) when they get in the game
- 3 straight losses

What I hoped happened over the off week was that players and coaches were
able to decompress and everyone realize what needs to be done to win.
 
Thinking that Urban and staff haven't seen some specific areas of
improvement, doesn't give him much credit. Did he suddenly forget everything
that has been successful in the past?  Or is it that his system can only be
successful with great players?
 
Ken K
MNGator
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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Stirring the pot


It has been kinda quiet due to the off week, so lets get it started!!!
 
I don't buy into this its the practice excuse.  Surely our highly paid and
successful coaches could tell prior to game 7 and three consecutive losses
that our practices were not getting it done... Why was nothing done prior to
that, or was there?  If something was done, why has it not made a
difference?  Are we to believe that it took them this long to figure out
that the practices were lacking?

C'mon!  That's weak...

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RE: [gatortalk] Georgia overtime

2010-11-04 Thread Ken Kirkley
Yep, that is true.  If we had scored on the INT return, game over. Since it
wasn't a score but a change of possession, all possessions in college OT
start at the 25.  At the beginning of OT they flip a coin, winner gets to
pick whether they want to be on offense or defense first.  Usually they will
pick defense first, that way you know if you have to go for it on 4th down
if the other team has already scored a TD.
 
In each subsequent OT period, the possessions alternate, so since we were on
D first, we woul the be Offense first in the 2nd OT, they don't re-flip the
coin.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of jfranl
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:04 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Georgia overtime



I watched the Georgia overtime game again.  I believe they said that since
we intercepted the ball in overtime, we would get the ball back at the 25
(which we did), but then we get the ball again, whether we score or not. Is
this true?  And then what?

Fran

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results

2010-11-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
What a great game!  I wish we could play twice each week.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:49 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Gator News
Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results



Congrats to Bo Wroble for going 10-2 last week in Pick 'Em.  Bo takes first
place.

Second place at 9-3 was a tie among Eric Bunce, Joseph Sams, Troy Williams,
and William

Kellermier.  Loads of people finished 3rd at 8-4.

 

For the year, Ryan Marcus has a two-game lead on Art Wroble, Carlos
Martinez, and Joe

Standley, and a three-game lead on Dustin Davis, John McInnes, and Ken
Kirkley.

 

We'll play again this week, no Thursday night game of real interest, so Pick
'Em

won't close till Saturday.  We should get it ready sometime tomorrow.

 

Results:  

 

http://pickem.g8r.com

 

Go GATORS!

 

John and Oz

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results

2010-11-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
Oh you bet, people are dieing to see me there...
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:52 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results


Very funny, Ken. I bet you're a hit at funerals. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net 
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:30:24 -0600
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results

What a great game!  I wish we could play twice each week.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:49 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com; Gator News
Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results



Congrats to Bo Wroble for going 10-2 last week in Pick 'Em.  Bo takes first
place.

Second place at 9-3 was a tie among Eric Bunce, Joseph Sams, Troy Williams,
and William

Kellermier.  Loads of people finished 3rd at 8-4.

 

For the year, Ryan Marcus has a two-game lead on Art Wroble, Carlos
Martinez, and Joe

Standley, and a three-game lead on Dustin Davis, John McInnes, and Ken
Kirkley.

 

We'll play again this week, no Thursday night game of real interest, so Pick
'Em

won't close till Saturday.  We should get it ready sometime tomorrow.

 

Results:  

 

http://pickem.g8r.com

 

Go GATORS!

 

John and Oz

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
Nope, they don't need to proove Cam had knowledge.  Remember, the NCAA is
not a court of law, they don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt or
even to the preponderence of evidence.  They can make any decision the
infractions committee feels just based on the information in front of them.
And while they don't have subpeona powers, if they ask a member school for
information or access to an individual associated with the school, the
school must provide or it is deemed an admission of guilt (see the F$U
case).
 
If the rule were simply that if Cam didn't have knowledge, then it is okay,
every school in the country would be paying parents.  
 
The problem at hand is the NCAA does not move fast in this type of
investigation.  They will want to see the whole picture to determine if it
is simply an athlete eligibility issue or if some of these other allegations
are also true.  Until they rule, it is up to the school to determine
eligibility and Auburn has determined they will play Cam.  Auburn is playing
a risky game of poker here, if Cam is ultimately ruled ineligible, their
whole season goes down the crapper, or they may determine he is eligible and
all is well.  In the meantime, they play for the SECC and BCSC and possibly
bring home a title.  Two years down the road, the NCAA may rule and the wins
get stripped, but they have had two years of recruiting success based on
this year.  Auburn is all in, do or die.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:11 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING


I've been following this as well. There would seemingly need to be some
proof of knowledge on Cams part. But I don't know if that is a fact or not.
Proving he had knowledge is going to be pretty tough.

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING


Yep.. thats basically what happened with the Reggie Bush scandal.  But some
of the so called experts Ive been listening to on the situation think that
if Cam had no knowledge.. Cam may be cleared.  I think with Reggie Bush...
he knew of the situation.  Granted.. the question is.. how could Cam NOT
know.  
 
Who knows who actually knows or did what.


On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com wrote:


FBI aside, from what I understand, the NCAA forbids even the player's FAMILY
from negotiations. If it is determined that his dad DID offer to steer
his son to a particular school for a payoff, Cam will be ruled ineligible.
Period.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:57 PM 


To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING





 

yes.  The FBI is investigating.

Yes.. the NCAA is investigating.

 

But we dont know that they have found anything criminal or corrupt yet.  And
youll excuse me for saying.. Fla was once also accused and charged with just
as scandalous of behavior... does that mean UF is corrupt?  Does that mean
Bama is corrupt after their incident?  The answer is no obviously... but
lets not jump to conclusions about Cam or Auburn till we know for sure. 

 

There are no facts (so far) that Cam has done anything wrong.

 

Woody

 

 



 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stephen Manuel srman...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

What do you mean no facts ??

 

We know that MSU alleged that they were approached by people stating they
represented Cam Newton and wanted money for him to sign with MSU. This has
been verified by numerous people. 

 

We know the FBI is involved and have questioned MSU representatives. 

 

We know that Auburn has a long and distinguished history of cheating. 


We know that Bobby Lowder and other AU boosters have corrupted the AU
program for a long time. 

 

We know that Lowder's Bank went under. 

 

We know that Auburn Boosters have been arrested for bribing Politicians. 

 

We know that the FBI has wiretapped numerous phones in the investigation of
Lowder and other AU boosters over Bank and Gambling issues. 

 

I've followed and been involved in recruiting for over 25 years,  only the
most diehard Auburn Fan would not believe they are in deep doo doo.

 

Does anyone honestly believe that MSU was told it will take 100-180K to get
Cam Newton and all of a sudden he signs with Auburn for Free ??

The one thing that will absolutely kill Auburn is if the FBI has Auburn
boosters on tape discussing who/what/when and how Auburn Players are getting
paid. 

 

I'm 99% sure that they do.

 

I still believe this  has the potential to be the biggest scandal in College
Football History.

 

Stephen Manuel

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of 

RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round

2010-12-01 Thread Ken Kirkley
Not here it isn't.  It is brown if you can find it beneath the white stuff.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:29 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] the earth is round



.the grass is green.nothing definitive yet

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:26 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] the earth is round

 

.so I hear..

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RE: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game...

2009-12-04 Thread Ken Kirkley
This is funny.  We are in their heads for sure!

 

We have a game where we count how many times Tebow says blessed, bless or
blessing.  Every time he is talking on camera, numerous variations come out.

 

And as for his suggestion to drink upon seeing a Gator fan in jorts, how
about drinking every time you see a bammer with toilet paper and laundry
detergent on his head?  Unfortunately, they think that is the intended use
of those products.

 

Ken K.

MNGator

 

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From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:30 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game...

 

 

The SEC College Football Season comes to a climax this weekend in the
Florida v Alabama championship game in Atlanta. The son of Chuck Norris, Tim
Tebow will face an Alabama team aching for revenge after last year's  SEC
championship loss to the same unholy lord of college football. Face it
folks, even though Tebow spends his free time preaching to the incarcerated,
curing cancer (we assume), trimming the foreskin of the impoverished, and
keeping the planets properly aligned by toting the earth around the sun to
keep  it in its proper orbit; on the field he's not nearly so generous. On
the field  he dominates. 

 

In honor of Tebow's sheer awesomeness, we give you  the Tebow SEC
Championship Drinking Game! 

* Drink every time Tebow is called a warrior. Bonus chug if any of your
friends sing the first two hours lines of Scandal's opus I am a warrior
and change the lyrics to Tebow is... Dance, Tebow, you magnificent
bastard. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's called a leader, then salute. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's called a special athlete, then yell
Tay! 

 

* Finish your drink if the announcers suggest Tebow should win the Heisman
again this year. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow points to the sky. Then realize the only reason the
sky hasn't fallen is the strength of his pointing. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow references God. 

 

* Drink every time he's shown on the sidelines flapping his arms like a bird
(or an idiot) to pump up the crowd. 

 

* If (when) Tebow actually takes flight, finish your drink and do a shot. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's on camera for no reason when  the Florida defense
is on the field. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow is seen screaming with his helmet off. 

 

* Drink every time they show a I Heart Tebow sign in the stands. 

 

* Drink every time you see a Florida fan in jorts. (Small sips on this one.
Otherwise it could kill you). 

 

* Shot every time they mention his experience as missionary. 

 

* If they mention him performing circumcisions in the Philippines while he
was a missionary - Chug your beer, do a shot of  Patron. 

 

*When Alabama wins and Tebow gives a tearful speech in the post-game press
conference, give the television the bird, turn up your  bottle of Jim Beam,
and don't stop drinking OR flipping off the TV till Tebow runs out of tears.
(This may take several bottles of Jim) Then throw the empty bottle(s)
through the television and quote the good book by saying the Terrence Cody
falls upon the just and the unjust alike! Club a baby seal and start
prepping for Texas. 

 

(Disclaimer: Playing the Tebow drinking game may well result in death. So
don't do it. Ever. Not even in jest. The content above this disclaimer is a
joke, not a suggestion. If you're dumb enough to do it, just  pray Tebow is
nearby. Only he can save you. Him or a local hospital with a  stomach pump.)

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC

2009-12-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
Someone needs to tell Lacey that the 1950's just called and wants its hair
back.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:48 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized
by the SEC

 

 

On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Helen Huntley wrote:





I loved that Andy Staples took a photo of the two women in action and didn't
realize until later that he'd caught them in the act of violating the rules.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/12/11/tennessee-r
ecruiting/

 

Lacey Pearl Earps, now that's a name!

 

-Zeb

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

2009-12-21 Thread Ken Kirkley
That’s write Randy, you set him strait!  I mean what a looser, criticizing
grammar…:-)

 

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:55 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal
m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

 

I couldn't help but ask……

 

arrangent = arrangement?

 

People who live in glass houses have to dress in the basement.

 

 

Randy Platt

aka PCGator

aka The Armchair Quarterback

aka The Other Randy

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:35 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal
m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

 

In a slightly related subject, I attended the visitation at a funeral home
for a precious lady friend of ours yesterday and was appalled to see this
ribbon attached to the huge and obviously very expensive flower arrangent
lying on the casket for the 700+ visitors to see...

Cherised Mother

Only in Tennessee...

Randy Lyons
Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē

 

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Steve McKibben wrote:


I realize that I'm probably being pedantic here, but is anyone else annoyed
that these kinds of errors get past the writer, his editor, and everyone
else that sees this prior to publication?

 Considering UF's strick policy regarding students who are arrested for DUI,
it seems a little odd that Dunlap is being allowed to play. 

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

2009-12-23 Thread Ken Kirkley
Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless
without comparative data from  aother schools; b other groups of students
at UF or c any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to
college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in
Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average
number of citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3
tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average
student I guess.

 

This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try
and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I really
want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they
eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?

 

Ken

MNGator

 

Happy Holidays!

 

 

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field
and in their cars

 


Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide


By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 

December 22, 2009

 

GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/florida-gators-ORSPT00
0172.topic  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with
a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or,
for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp
on scholarship or served in the game participation portion of this
season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who
usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as open or undisposed in
the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are
either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including
Tim Tebow
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/sports/football/tim-tebow-PESPT008528.
topic  - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County.
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus
less than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11),
defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive
lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and
three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7)
and Jaye Howard (7).

Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a
criminal charge for driving while never owning a license.

Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days
before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI
charge among the Gators.

The cases of Cunningham, who avoided arrest, and Doe, who was arrested in
July for driving excessively with a suspended license, resemble a common
tale State Attorney Bill Cervone knows too well.

Someone accumulates too many tickets, possibly doesn't pay them and
eventually gets assessed an unknowingly driving with a suspended license
charge. That charge classifies as a routine criminal or civil traffic
citation - pay and go on your way - but the second time around would elevate
to a knowingly driving without a valid license.

Cunningham caught the suspended license charge in Jan. 28, 2008, and the
case has been resolved along with all his previous citations. Doe has only
nine total tickets, but four of them are criminal charges and three are
still classified as open until he fulfills stipulations such as community
service stemming from his summer arrest.

Carodine was 

RE: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators!

2009-12-25 Thread Ken Kirkley
Merry Christmas from Snowy Minnesota!  No need to wish for a white Christmas
here.

 

Ken

MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 6:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators!

 

To all of my family and friends in the GatorNation, I pray that Santa was
good to all of you this morning.  My Christmas wish for you all is that you
have a wonderful and blessed day!

 

With my children grown, there is not the same excitement in my home than
when my children were younger.  Someday I will have grand children and the
excitement will return.

 

Jerry

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

2009-12-26 Thread Ken Kirkley
I heard we are going after Kiffen, he knows how to get us back on the map...

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

I thought the state of Fla had had enough of Gruden? lol


On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:04 PM,  ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote:
 I see a lot of names already -

 why is Gruden not being mentioned?



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RE: [gatortalk] News?

2009-12-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
I'm no Pollyanna, but I want to know what you were expecting for next year
and how do you think that changes now?

At this point, we don't know who the recruits are, we don't know which
juniors leave early and we don't know who will actually be coaching.  It is
way too early to begin writing off the 2010 season.

In my opinion, 2010 will surprise a lot of people.  While our schedule is
more difficult, our talent is still above most.  At this early stage here is
how I see it breaking down:

Sure wins (5): Miami (OH), Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt,
Appalachian State

Probable wins (4): USF, Tennessee, South Carolina, SOW

Tough games (2): LSU, Georgia

Probable loss (1): Alabama

So if the sky is falls and the program is in disarray, we are looking at
8-4, more likely scenario is 9-3 or 10-2.

If we hold the recruiting class together, the number of juniors going pro is
limited to Haden, Dunlap, Hernandez and one or both of the Pouncey's, and
the coaching situation is stabilized (either way) I think you can add USF,
Tennessee, USC and SOW into the wins and Georgia into a probable win.

Coach Meyer has built a winning program at UF.  It will continue to thrive
with or without him at the helm.  Adazzio is a very experienced coach who
had some growing pains this year as the head signal caller.  I expect him to
have more confidence and accept greater input from others on the staff this
year so we will see better play calling.

You also have to add in the intangible factor of motivation.  The
underclassmen have been hearing all year - wait till next year when Tebow is
gone.  This off season, you can bet they will be motivated to let everyone
know, the foot is not off the gas pedal.  It is a very important year in the
Gator program, we need to beat UT, LSU, UGA and SOW to let them know that
while Tebow is gone, the Gators are continuing to rise.

Ken K.
MNGator
-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatorr
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:20 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?


Um hmm. Better get ur sleep now cuz '10 is gonna be a long long long  
long year.


Woody (via iPhone)

On Dec 27, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Tom Clarke gatort...@bellsouth.net  
wrote:

 If Meyer would or can restrict himself to use the leave time  
 properly to work on the health issues with his doctor then his wife  
 will have him at home much more. The question then is how long will  
 it last? And can he learn to force himself to delegate some duties  
 enough to avoid the same cycle again when he does return to 'active  
 duty'. For now Gator Nation can sleep much better!!

 Tom C (gatortc)


 -Original Message-
 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com]  
 On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:59 PM
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?

 If Meyer seemed beaten down at the press conference, it might have  
 had something to do with Shelly.  I am sure she had her heart set on  
 having him home.

 She might have kicked his butt when he told her he had reconsidered.


 Go Gators

 Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

 -Original Message-
 From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:19:13
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?

 I think your right.  Ive said it many times here... Meyer does not
 have a poker face.



 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Dr. Caffeine thecoffeelo...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 I don't know. But I think he is gone. His resignation may have too  
 much
 negative impact. So they worked out a temporary solution. If they  
 can't
 figure out that chest pain during the past few years, they won't be  
 able to
 do that in the next few years too.

 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:28 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Whew. Basically, a sabbatical.

 Let's hope he can get any physical issues taken care of. There is  
 one
 thing worse than him walking out. It would be him being carried out.

 Go Gators

 Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

 
 From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net
 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:13 -0500
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comgatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?
 Its official. He's taking an indefinite leave of absence, but said  
 in his
 gut, he feels he'll be back in time for the 2010 season.

 Good news!

 Randy Lyons
 Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē
 
 ken...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Thanks.

 Go Gators

 Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

 -Original Message-
 From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net
 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:46:03
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [gatortalk] News?

 News conference postponed until 5:00

 

RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel

2009-12-29 Thread Ken Kirkley
I think that when the announcement was made there were a lot of emotions
tearing people apart.  Regardless (or is it irregardless?)  :-)  once the
dust settled with or without Meyer, I think we would have been fine.  Would
Rainey and Black really leave early to not be drafted?  Would all the
potential recruits leave just because Meyer is gone?  Some would, but the
core would stay intact.

 

The interesting thing about this years recruiting class is that we have a
very stocked team right now.  These new recruits are to reload, not rebuild.
So even if we miss on a few, it won't be all damaging and put us behind
others in the state as some would like you to believe.  The biggest downside
to this years class is the numbers, we can sign the full 25 this year and
with some attrition, we might sign fewer or take risks on lower rated
prospects.  My belief is in the end, we will end up with a top 5 class and
all will be well.

 

Ken 
MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:14 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel

 

Its worse that that.  

 

Rumor is - when Meyer announced his retirement - a lot of the juniors were
much more likely to leave and a lot of the recruits were less likely to
arrive.  

 

Would have been a HUGE drop off in talent.  

 

From what I hear - both juniors and recruits are mostly back on board.

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel
From: Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:58 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Has anyone wondered if Meyer leaving and then returning for the family and
to finish a job is an object lesson for all the juniors thinking of
leaving?

 

H?

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors.

2010-01-01 Thread Ken Kirkley
Drama queen alert!

 

Come on, he said he was looking forward to being corch of the Gators.  Why
do you think you know more than he does?

 

Just wait it out, we will all know in due time.  I can guarantee that Coach
Meyer will not leave this program in shambles, he has built the PROGRAM to a
point that if his health forces him out, we will continue our stay at the
top.

 

We have phenomenal talent returning next year, even if all the likely
juniors go, we will be a top ten team and win the SECE.  Have Faith!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:30 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors.

 

Its written all over Meyers face..and Shelly's.  This was his last game.
His eyes are all glazed over and listen to his voice.  If he's back Ill be
absolutely shocked.  

 

 

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Wanda Barry g8...@comcast.net wrote:

I'm beyond emotion right now and can't quiet grasp the end of this era.  But
you know, I'm a Gator and will always be a Gator and with pride I say...It's
Great To Be a Florida Gator

 

Wanda

- Original Message - 

From: Woody mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com  

To: Gatortalk mailto:Gatortalk@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:21 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Thank you Meyer, Tebow and the rest of the seniors.

 

Unfortunately, it was your last game... but you did Florida proud and we
will forever be grateful. 

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RE: [gatortalk] 15 seconds (give or take) of fame(?)...

2010-01-05 Thread Ken Kirkley
Steve,

 

I think you nailed the reason why the tickets weren't selling through the
UAA.  Lot's of reason for it too:

-  Had to have really high priority to get BCS tickets through UAA.  Many
people who did not have that priority had already made other arrangements
through StubHub or others.

- Many Gators had made plans to travel out West - spend a few days in Vegas
or Arizona before heading to the game.  Those other vacation plans are often
hard or expensive to change.

- Can't ignore the economy, the face value tickets are expensive and travel
is a hassle as well.

- And finally, the tickets the UAA had to sell were some of the worse in the
stadium, the schools allotments are usually in the corners of the endzones,
so better tickets can be had buying directly from the Sugar Bowl.

 

I watched on TV from chilly (-18) Minnesota, and it appeared the crowd was
evenly split, Gators were certainly louder!

 

And BTW, great job on the interview, but where was the Gatortalk mention? 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:56 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] 15 seconds (give or take) of fame(?)...

 


On Tuesday the 29th, I drove my son Shane back to Gainesville so that he
could attend marching band rehearsal with The Pride of the Sunshine ahead of
their bus trip to New Orleans the following day.

We had some time to kill before he had to report, so we hit Gators Dockside
to get a bite to eat, and met a local TV20 reporter that was doing a story
on why the UF allotment of tickets to the Sugar Bowl weren't selling out.

As you can see from their video, they must have been very hard up for people
to talk to...

 http://www.wcjb.com/news/5796/tickets-still-unsold-for-sugar-bowl
http://www.wcjb.com/news/5796/tickets-still-unsold-for-sugar-bowl

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
Uhmm, that two can be as bad as one, its the loneliest number since the
number one.

 

I don't get this sentiment at all, wouldn't you rather be #2 than #3?  Look
at all the play SOW got for their streak of top 5 finishes.  We won't win it
all every year, so we should strive for the best ranking we can get.  We
knew on December 5th that we wouldn't be #1, so should we have declined a
bowl invitation?  No!

 

I will enjoy this game tonight because I don't have a dog in the hunt.  If
bammer wins, great, the SEC is still dominant, we will be ranked #2 and next
year the winner of the SECC is already penciled in for the BCSC game.  If
Texas wins, great, bammers won't be able to claim their 44,323rd national
championship and slimy Nick won't match Urban for number of BCSC, Gators
will end up 3rd, which still isn't all bad.

 

My best case scenario is that McCoy is intercepted 3 times, Ingram fumbles
twice, Alabama is sacked for a safety but wins in the end 3-2.  

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

And being #2 means what?

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:00 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

I'm torn with who I want to win.  If Bammy wins it should help us to end up
in the #2 spot over Boise State.  So, I'll root for them.  I just won't like
them.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:57 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

You have brought up an interesting subject, Johnny.

 

As everyone knows, I am gator first and SEC second. Publicly, I'm saying
that I am pulling for Bama to bring the 4th NC home to the SEC tonight, BUT
every Bama fan I talk to has been very obnoxious about it.

 

Even after the whipping they put on us, they can't seem to let it go.
They're telling me we were overrated, pretenders, etc, and had no business
even THINKING we could go to Pasadena. Now, I'm kinda hoping Texas will
spank 'em. :-)

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Bowers
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:47 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

You think the elephants are going to win tonight?

 

John

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:42 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

Too many dawgs and elephants here

 

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
If you aren't the #1 sales team in America, are you a loser?

 

What if we end up in the top 5 for the next 10 years.  Maybe a couple of the
finishes are in 1st, I still would like that streak.

 

I don't look at any season in any sport as an all or none proposition.  We
competed against the schedule in front of us and lost one game.  I think
this is a good season.  Do I want the rings, absolutely, but are we failures
because we didn't get them?  No.

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:59 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

I understand your logic, but IMHO, at the end of the year, there are only
three things that define the previous season - SEC East Champions, SEC
Championship and National Championship. We missed two of the three, so it
just means that we did great, but we'll have to try again next year. I don't
think a recruit is going to look at the final rankings and say oh, UF is
#3. I guess I'll go somewhere else since they didn't finish at #2.

 

My favorite scenario would be for Ingram to rush for -50 yards, fumbles
several times and never scores. Colt McCoy gets intercepted five or six
times, and in the THIRD overtime (when no one is left watching), Mt. Cody
sacks McCoy in the end zone for a safety. Bama wins 2-0.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:21 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

Uhmm, that two can be as bad as one, its the loneliest number since the
number one.

 

I don't get this sentiment at all, wouldn't you rather be #2 than #3?  Look
at all the play SOW got for their streak of top 5 finishes.  We won't win it
all every year, so we should strive for the best ranking we can get.  We
knew on December 5th that we wouldn't be #1, so should we have declined a
bowl invitation?  No!

 

I will enjoy this game tonight because I don't have a dog in the hunt.  If
bammer wins, great, the SEC is still dominant, we will be ranked #2 and next
year the winner of the SECC is already penciled in for the BCSC game.  If
Texas wins, great, bammers won't be able to claim their 44,323rd national
championship and slimy Nick won't match Urban for number of BCSC, Gators
will end up 3rd, which still isn't all bad.

 

My best case scenario is that McCoy is intercepted 3 times, Ingram fumbles
twice, Alabama is sacked for a safety but wins in the end 3-2.  

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

And being #2 means what?

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:00 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

I'm torn with who I want to win.  If Bammy wins it should help us to end up
in the #2 spot over Boise State.  So, I'll root for them.  I just won't like
them.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:57 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

You have brought up an interesting subject, Johnny.

 

As everyone knows, I am gator first and SEC second. Publicly, I'm saying
that I am pulling for Bama to bring the 4th NC home to the SEC tonight, BUT
every Bama fan I talk to has been very obnoxious about it.

 

Even after the whipping they put on us, they can't seem to let it go.
They're telling me we were overrated, pretenders, etc, and had no business
even THINKING we could go to Pasadena. Now, I'm kinda hoping Texas will
spank 'em. :-)

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Bowers
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:47 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

You think the elephants are going to win tonight?

 

John

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:42 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fw: Calendar oops!

 

Too many dawgs and elephants here

 

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages

2010-01-10 Thread Ken Kirkley
We can actually sign up to 34 this year, depending on who goes pro early.
We only signed 16 last year, so up to 9 of the early enrollees will count
back to the 2009 class.  Currently, we have 9 early entrants, and possibly
2-3 more.  Since we are under the 85 limit, we can sign the full 25 for this
year as well.

 

I don't think we will sign that many, but will probably take 28 or 29 if
they are the right guys.  We could still pick up 5* OL Seantrell Henderson
who is the #1 player in the country overall, and we now have a shot at
several of the USC 5* guys now that Carroll is fleeing the sinkinf ship.

 

If all this sticks, we will end up with one of the best overall recruiting
classes ever.  That is simply amazing considering what we have gone through.
And with at least 9 of them available for spring practice and Mickey's
conditioning, we should get a few very valuable contributors for next year.
Ronald Powell looks like he could come in and play right away, he is a
beast!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:44 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages

 

This article did not even mention USC what is happening with all their 5
star recruits.  Rumor is - Pete Carroll is leaving becaue of recruiting
problems.   At least one huge recruit is now considering florida.  

 

Gators may very well have a incredible problem on their hands.  

 

If a 5 star guy wants to sign with Florida - but we've already got 85 on
scholarship / committed - what do we do?  Not let a 3 star guy sign?  Kick
some under performers off the team?

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatornews] Florida assembling a class for the ages
From: Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, January 10, 2010 11:03 am
To: 'GatorNews' gatorn...@googlegroups.com

Originally Published: January 9, 2010


Florida assembling a class for the ages


Gators already have the nation's top class, but this could turn into the
best of all time


 http://search.espn.go.com/gerry-hamilton/ HamiltonBy Gerry Hamilton,
Scouts Inc.




SAN ANTONIO -- The Florida Gators have what is already the nation's
top-ranked recruiting class. Apparently, that's not good enough. After
landing three more of the nation's top players during the Army All-American
Bowl, the Gators are assembling one of the best recruiting classes of all
time. 

 

 One week after scoring defensive tackle
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=83134
Dominique Easley (Staten Island, N.Y./Curtis) and receiver
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69014se
ason=2010 Chris Dunkley (Pahokee, Fla./Pahokee) during the Under Armour
All-America Game, the Gators earned commits from DT
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=71591
Sharrif Floyd (Philadelphia/George Washington), ATH
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69371
Matt Elam (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla./Dwyer) and five-star DE
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=66339
Ronald Powell (Moreno Valley, Calif./Rancho Verde). 

 

 Florida now has 24 commitments in the 2010 class, including 15 from the
ESPNU 150. The impressive haul includes three five-star prospects and 13
four-star prospects, not including postgraduate four-star athlete
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=99494se
ason=2010 Travon Van (La Mesa, Calif./Milford Academy).

 

 Even some of the Gators' commits are surprised at how this class has come
together over the past two weeks. Four-star tight end
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69213
Gerald Christian (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla./Dwyer) has been there from the
beginning, having committed to Florida in April of his junior year, but
didn't see this coming. 

 

 We have a very ridiculous class, said Christian, who is No. 32 in the
ESPNU 150. We have three five-stars and a lot of people didn't think people
were going to commit because of all of the stuff that went on with Urban
Meyer. I'm glad to see it turned out the way it has. I didn't expect it to
turn out this way but it's amazing.

 

 The all-star games are normally a fertile recruiting ground for committed
players to recruit other players to join them at their school, but Christian
hasn't even had to sell the program.

 

 Florida is basically just recruiting itself right now. I haven't had to
say a thing, Christian said.

The commitment party got started for the Gators at halftime when Floyd, the
four-star DT, picked Florida over Ohio State, North Carolina and South
Carolina.

I just felt Florida was the best fit for me, Floyd said. I felt as though
Florida and Ohio State were good fits, but Florida was just like a home away
from home and I know I'll grow as a player. I think Florida is 

RE: [gatortalk] Pouncey

2010-01-11 Thread Ken Kirkley
Are you going to watch Bama and Georgia play?  Don't you know, the wheels
are falling off the Florida bus.  We can't keep coaches, can't get anyone
good to replace them and sure can't land any good recruits.

 

My oh my, we will be lucky to finish at .500 next year, just hope the Dawgs
and Noles don't whip us too bad..

 

 

Ken K.

MNGator

 

 

P.S.  This is all the fault of the damn media blackout!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:02 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Pouncey

 

Hello Atlanta 2010!

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:00 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pouncey

 

I was wondering about that... the txt msg didnt mention him.

 



 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Darlene Goodfellow
goodfell...@earthlink.net wrote:

Yeah, but the good news is Mike is staying and wants to move to the center
position.


- Original Message - From: Gatorr gatorrr...@gmail.com
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:52 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Pouncey 

 

ESPN NCAAF - Florida junior C Maurkice Pouncey (Rimington Award
winner) will enter 2010 NFL Draft

Woody (via iPhone)

 




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RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early

2010-01-11 Thread Ken Kirkley
My thinking is that everyone is just guessing at this point.  The coaches
know who is going pro, and probably have a good idea of who is going to
transition out of the program, the rest of us are just guessing at how many
ships are available.  

 

It really doesn't matter how many we count back to last year, as next year
we won't be able to sign the full 25 anyway.  I think the author of the
article is thinking we can only sign the SEC maximum of 28 regardless of
which class they count towards and so we would only have to count 3 of them
back to last year.It seems from several sources, that you can only sign
28 max due to the new SEC rule, and that is a shame.  In a few years, you
will find the SEC at a competitive disadvantage to other conferences unless
this is changed.

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:58 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early

 

Maybe we only had 3 available scholarships from last year?

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:33 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early

 

okay 

 

they say 28 recruits will be signed - with only 3 counting towards last year
?

 

Last year we were 7 under the 85 limit and last year we only signed 16 which
is 9 under that limit

 

I don't understand why only 3 count towards last year ??? 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Sun: 11 Recruits enroll early
From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com
Date: Mon, January 11, 2010 5:20 pm
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com




Now, all of you who said bad things about Matt Elam, say 3 Hail Marys and 4
Our Fathers!!  

Then, give me 3 laps around the Swamp.  :-)

Even though national signing day is still three weeks away, almost half of
Florida's 2010 recruiting class is already in school.

Related Links:

*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100109/ARTICLES/100109552 UF
racks up at Army game 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100107/ARTICLES/100109668
Gainesville prep blog: Big-time d-line prospects 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100103/ARTICLES/100109910 UF
recruits out in force at Under Armour All-America Game 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100102/NEWS/100109941 Gators
land top recruits 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091231/ARTICLES/912319965
Five-star Elam switches commitment to FSU 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091226/ARTICLES/912269968
Recruits react to Meyer's departure 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091217/ARTICLES/912179960 UF
football gets third commitment from Dwyer 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091212/ARTICLES/912139991
Gators feeling sting of Strong's exit in recruiting 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091212/ARTICLES/912129950
Kiffin says recruitment investigation a compliment 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091210/ARTICLES/912119996
Cody Riggs commits to Gators 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091209/ARTICLES/912099947
NCAA probes Vols recruiting 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091130/ARTICLES/911309905
Top shooting guard prospect says he's bound for UF 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091128/ARTICLES/911289963 UF
gets second 2011 verbal commitment 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091127/ARTICLES/911279916
Florida-Florida State game a recruiting bonanza 
*http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20091118/ARTICLES/911199977 UF
softball makes room for pitcher Rogers 
*
http://www.gatorsports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/temaoversikt?Dato=20100111Kategor
i=ARTICLESLopenr=100119920Ref=ARProfile=1136 More Stories 

Three of the early enrollees are expected to count back to the 2009
recruiting class. And the Gators are expected to sign the SEC maximum of 28
players on national signing day (Feb. 3).

Of the 24 high school prospects who have committed to the Gators, 11 are
enrolled in classes and will participate in spring practice.

The latest early enrollees include three of the five UF commitments who
played in Saturday's Army All-American Game in San Antonio - cornerback
Jaylen Watkins and West Palm Beach Dwyer teammates Matt Elam (safety) and
Gerald Christian (tight end). Elam is one of the three five-star prospects
who announced for Florida during Saturday's game. The others were defensive
tackle Shariff Floyd and defensive end Ronald Powell.

UF's other early enrollees are defensive end Neiron Ball, quarterback Trey
Burton, wide receiver Robert Clark (another Dwyer teammate of Elam and
Christian), defensive back Jordan Haden, defensive lineman Leon Orr, wide
receiver Solomon Patton, defensive back Joshua Shaw and offensive lineman
Ian Silberman.


RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Hell Hath No Fury Like a Tennessee Fan Scorned: Lane Kiffin Runs Scared

2010-01-13 Thread Ken Kirkley
Yep,  Coach O started calling all of UTs early entrants and told them not to
go to class today.  That way they will not have to sit out a year.
Incredibly classy, you recruit a kid to a school, he graduates from high
school early giving up all the fun of a senior spring - no prom, etc. - then
you move him to a new town and now you tell him to stop and think about his
decision?

 

I hope USC likes what they get, because there is no secret as to Kiffin or
Orgeron's  character now.

 

Ken Kirkley

MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:01 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Hell Hath No Fury Like a Tennessee
Fan Scorned: Lane Kiffin Runs Scared

 

I read that Ed Orgeron was calling them telling them not to go to class.

 

from www.govols.com http://www.govols.com/ :

 

 

Former Tennessee recruiting coordinator Ed Orgeron has contacted multiple UT
mid-term enrollees and encouraged them not to attend class today so that
they can easily leave UT and enroll at Southern California, multiple sources
told the News Sentinel.

Orgeron, who joined USC's staff when Lane Kiffin was hired as coach on
Tuesday, did not immediately return a text message from the News Sentinel
seeking comment.

By attending class today, the nine mid-term enrollees, who have been at UT
since Monday, would have to follow strict transfer rules, which include
sitting out a year.

It is unclear how many, or which, prospects Orgeron contacted.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:29 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote:

 I wonder what is going through the minds of the brand new recruits that
just started classes on Monday?

 

 

 

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Whether to invite Tim Tebow to draft

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
Many in the general public can't understand why the Heisman Trophy winner
and three-time finalist may not be a top NFL pick, said ESPN draft analyst
Todd McShay, who gets questions about it all the time. It has to do with
Tebow's accuracy, how long it takes him to release the football, and the
system he played in at Florida, he said.

It's hard to believe and hard to explain, said McShay, who tabs Tebow as a
third-round pick. He has been the face of college football for the last 2
1/2 years.

 

Yeah, the reason they can't believe it is because you can't explain it.
Tebow has accuracy issues?  Really, the guy who set the all time NCAA pass
efficiency mark?  I agree his release time might be an issue, but I can
point to many QBs with quick releases who suck and many with slow releases
who are stars (Brett Favre, Steve Young anyone?)

 

McShay is a tool and has no credible experience other than having an
opinion.  But because he works for ESPN, his word is gospel and he is the
expert.  Bleeegh.

 

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:57 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Whether to invite Tim Tebow to draft

 

 
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2010-01-20/officials-m
um-on-whether-invite-tim-tebow-draft Officials mum on whether to invite Tim
Tebow to draft

Liz Mullen, SportsBusiness Journal


Bringing Florida quarterback Tim Tebow to New York for April's NFL draft
could spur higher television ratings, but Gil Brandt, who advises the NFL on
its invitations, won't say whether Tebow will be on the list.

That's because Brandt, former head of player personnel for the Dallas
Cowboys, never says who he's inviting, especially this early.

It has been the NFL's policy not to invite players who the league thinks
could be sweating it out in the green room for hours, let alone days. And
Tebow could very well sit well through the third round. Or he could be taken
high in the first, depending on which NFL Draft web site, analysts or agents
you go to for an answer.

The draft will be broadcast over three days this year, starting with the
first round in prime time Thursday, April 22, the second and third rounds in
prime time Friday and the fourth through seventh rounds during the day
Saturday. It will be broadcast on ESPN and NFL Network.

The NFL, which invited about 10 players last year, may invite even more this
year, said Jay Rothman, ESPN coordinating producer, who has overseen the
draft for that network since 1995.

I have been in meetings with the NFL already, and there is a push to give
it more entertainment value, Rothman said. We have had dialogue about
expanding the list of invitees to New York.

The question is whether players will come or their agents will advise them
not to go. Agents have told SportsBusiness Journal that they don't want
their clients there if they don't go in the top 10.

Tebow's agent, Jimmy Sexton, did not immediately respond to a call. In a
brief interview earlier last week, Sexton confirmed he had signed Tebow for
playing contract work. Tebow may select an additional agent for marketing.

Sexton, a top agent for NFL players and coaches for 25 years, indicated it
was one of the greatest career achievements for himself and his company,
Memphis-based Athletic Resource Management, to represent Tebow. We think he
will go very high in the first round, when it is all said and done, Sexton
said.

Many in the general public can't understand why the Heisman Trophy winner
and three-time finalist may not be a top NFL pick, said ESPN draft analyst
Todd McShay, who gets questions about it all the time. It has to do with
Tebow's accuracy, how long it takes him to release the football, and the
system he played in at Florida, he said.

It's hard to believe and hard to explain, said McShay, who tabs Tebow as a
third-round pick. He has been the face of college football for the last 2
1/2 years.

Meanwhile, there is talk in the industry that Tebow could be close to a deal
to be the face on the cover of EA Sports' NCAA College 2011 video game,
which will be out this summer.

Sandy Sandoval, senior director of athlete relations for EA Sports, said, I
cannot confirm or deny that.


This story, written by Liz Mullen, first appeared in SportsBusiness Journal,
a sister publication of Sporting News.


C 2009 SportingNews.com.



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RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Walker helps UF win on road [Brockway]

2010-01-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
I thought we played well, but were still undisciplined at times.  This is a
young team and hasn't learned how to play a full 40 minutes.  I am concerned
as the season goes on as to how fatigued they will be.  I fear another
February collapse.

 

Having said that, this team is a lot more fun to watch than last year.  They
work well as a team when they are on, and as long as Macklin stays out of
foul trouble they can be very good.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:36 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Walker helps UF win on road
[Brockway]

 

Did anyone watch the game last night?  We actually played well.  And, it was
on the road in a hostile pig calling environment.  

 

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Walker helps UF win on road


 
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GSDate=20100121Categ
ory=ARTICLESArtNo=100129870Ref=ARProfile=1136MaxW=600border=0  

The Associated Press 

Florida's Erving Walker drives around Arkansas' Marcus Britt during the
second half in Fayetteville, Ark., on Thursday.

 


By Kevin Brockway mailto:broc...@gvillesun.com 
Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. 
Last Modified: Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. 

 

 

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. - In a road game that Florida needed, sophomore guard
Erving Walker and the rest of the Gators delivered.

 

Three questions, three answers

1. Can the Florida starting backcourt of freshman Kenny Boynton and
sophomore Erving Walker keep up their hot shooting in SEC play?
Walker stayed hot, making 7-of-12 from the floor and 5-of-6 from 3-point
range to put together a career-high 27-point performance. Boynton, on the
other hand, was just 5-for-13 from the floor and 1-for-7 from 3-point range.
But Walker provided enough production to lift the Gators to the road win.

2. How well can Florida limit the 3-point shooting of Arkansas sophomore
guard Rotnei Clarke?
Clarke was held in check early before heating up in the second half. He
finished with 17 points on 5-of-9 shooting from 3-point range. But Florida
did a decent job late in the game denying Clarke the basketball and forcing
him into rushed shot attempts.

3. Can Florida get off to a good start on the road and take a tough visiting
crowd at Bud Walton Arena out of the game?
Florida shot just 28.6 percent in the first half but still held a 28-26
halftime lead. But in a hostile environment, Florida executed well late
during a 9-0 run that extended its lead 64-56 with 2:53 left in the game.

 

Walker scored a career-high 27 points and Florida was able to muscle its way
to a 71-66 win over Arkansas before 14,173 at Bud Walton Arena.

Walker had a terrific night, making 7-of-12 shots from the floor and 5-of-6
3-point attempts while dishing four assists with no turnovers. 

I've just been doing the same thing that I've been focusing on lately, just
getting open looks and focusing on shots that work to my strength and not to
my weakness, Walker said.

Kenny Boynton added 13 points for Florida, and Alex Tyus posted his eighth
career double-double with 11 points and 12 rebounds. Florida out-rebounded
Arkansas 41-29 and scored 12 second-half points off 17 offensive rebounds.

Our frontcourt struggled to score tonight but really did a good job getting
us offensive rebounds, Florida coach Billy Donovan said.

Said Tyus: We just wanted to come out active, flying around and go after
the ball.

Rotnei Clarke led four Arkansas players in double figures with 17 points.
Freshman Marshawn Powell scored 14 points, center Michael Washington scored
11 points, and point guard Courtney Fortson had 14 points and 11 assists.

Florida (13-5, 2-2 Southeastern Conference) evened its record in SEC play
and will have a happy flight home Friday before facing South Carolina on
Saturday at the O'Connell Center.

It's huge for us, especially the way things started, Walker said. But we
can't afford to let up because we know South Carolina is a good team.

Florida led 67-58 when Walker hit his fifth 3-pointer of the game with 2:19
left. But Arkansas didn't go away. Fortson hit a 3-pointer to cut the
Florida lead to 67-61. Then, after a Walker miss, Powell scored on an inside
layup with 1:24 left that dwindled the Florida lead to 67-63.

Tyus was then called for a travel with 46.3 seconds left and one second on
the shot clock. But Powell missed a 3-point attempt, and UF forward Chandler
Parsons grabbed the rebound and was fouled with 30.3 seconds remaining.

Parsons made one of two free throws. After Fortson made one of two free
throws at the other end, Walker made a pair of free throws with 19.3 seconds
left to put the Gators ahead to stay, 70-64.

Walker scored 15 points in the 

RE: [gatortalk] RE: Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

2010-01-23 Thread Ken Kirkley
It's never to early to start recruiting a legacy.  And, in fact, it has
already started.

 

Come on Kelvin, you know you are a Gator!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:02 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor [gatornews] Gatornews
from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

 

 Is it too early to start recruiting this kid?

 

He's only a freshman ...

 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/palm/fl-pb-gday-taylo
r-1211-20091210,0,3032670.story

 

 


Glades Day RB Kelvin Taylor finishes 8th in Mr. Football voting


by Jason Lieser 

The Florida Dairy Farmers officially announced former Dwyer star Matt Elam
as 2009's Mr. Football this morning. Glades Day running back Kelvin Taylor,
the Class 1B Player of the Year, finished eighth in the voting.

Cocoa's John Wilkinson, who beat Glades Central for the Class 2A
championship, won Coach of the Year.


Taylor


Taylor


Elam


Elam

Despite the area producing three of the state's eight state championship
teams, no local coaches won the award for their classifications, thus none
of them were on the final ballot.

Elam is Palm Beach County's third winner, following Pahokee's Anquan Boldin
(1998) and Antone Smith (2004).

Voting is done by statewide media and coaches. Here is the breakdown of the
vote totals (1st place votes get 10 points, 2nd gets 7 and 3rd gets 6):


Player

1st

2nd

3rd

Points


Matt Elam, Dwyer

12

2

1

140


Jeffrey Godfrey, Miami Central

2

5

5

85


Matt Younger, Cocoa

4

4

1

74


Quentin Williams, Tampa-Jefferson

0

4

3

46 


Lemarcus Joyner, St. Thomas Aquinas

2

1

3

45


Ronald Jones, Fort Meade

0

1

1

13


Garrett Hammett, Callahan-West Nassau

0

0

2

12 


Kelvin Taylor, Glades Day

0

0

1

6

 

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Anybody hearing anything on why Tyler Murphy ?

2010-01-25 Thread Ken Kirkley
I for one am thrilled with Burton, he wants to be a Gator (unlike some of
our other committed/not-committed players) and is an incredible ball player.
I think Murphy is being recruited as an athlete.  The Tebow version of the
spread offense has scared away the elite, traditional drop back passers.
With Brantley at the helm the next two years, you will see a more
prototypical QB and the elite prospects will once again line up.  

 

Have faith.

 

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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:02 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody hearing anything on why Tyler Murphy ?

 

Nobody is thrilled with Trey Burton (3 stars), much less Tyler Murphy (2
stars).  

 

I don't understand these picks by Scot Loeffler ?

 

Can anyone else make sense of them?  

 

Tebow was 5 stars, Brantley was high 4 stars - just missed 5 stars.  

 

Cam Newton was high 4 stars I think

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

2010-02-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
We will, he is a legacy so you know we will push hard.  I'm not big on
offering this early, let the kid play a little bit.  He is obviously good,
but is his OL all seniors this year or is he really that good?  I believe he
is really that good, but there is plenty of time for it all to play out.  We
just need to get Fred to tell his son, UF is the place to be!

 

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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:33 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm
Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

 

As a freshman in high school he wins high school athlete of the year ... 

 

Have we offered this kid yet?

 

 

 

HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE OF THE YEAR

 

Kelvin Taylor, Glades Day football. In 14 games, had 295 carries, 2,601
yards, and 49 touchdowns. Scored four touchdowns in Gators' Class 1B
championship victory.

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

2010-02-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
Most of the club sports get some funding from the university.  Some use that
for coaching stipends, others for travel or training needs.  I played
Lacrosse at UF and we had two coaches that received stipends, our jerseys
were paid for and the officials, etc all came out of the student activity
fees.  Now of course, that was 20+ years ago, so never mind.

 

Ken

MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:17 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

i dunno if UF hired him.. but yes they have a coach.. not sure he even
gets paid to be honest...  I doubt its totally volunteer.  They do have
sponsors... ive thoughta bout seeing if the gatornet peeps wanted to gather
funds to be a sponsor... but wasnt sure anyone would be up for it

 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

Coach? They have a coach hired by UF?
I've always thought they were a club team, like the Tri-Gators Triathlon
team. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com 

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:03:30 -0500

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

Actually I think its Ice Gators.. but that close!  :)

 

and ACTUALLY (AE)... the Tampa Bay Lightning are Stanley Cup Champs

 

 

lol

 

im really impressed by what this new coach has done with this team.. and
when I saw them when they were here a couple of years ago... i thought they
were really in a division lower than they should be.

 

 

 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net
wrote:

Who would've ever believed that a FLORIDA Ice Hockey team would be
competitive? Go Polar Gators! :-)

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:34 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 


 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gainesville-FL/University-of-Florida-Gators-I
ce-Hockey/29341676825?ref=nf University of Florida Gators Ice Hockey With
14.5 seconds left in the 3rd period and only only 14 seconds after Loyola
tied the game at 2, the Gators score to continue their win streak to 16
games and secure a bid to the 2010 National Tournament which will be held
March 10-13 in Estero, FL.


 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

2010-02-22 Thread Ken Kirkley
They don't work for free.  And I'm not sure I would want to play in a game
where they did!  Being an official can be quite a lucrative hobby, here in
MN I can get $125 for each game I referee, 3-4 games on a Saturday and I can
go buy a new tool for my shop!

 

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Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:00 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

You PAID the OFFICIALS? I thought only f$u did THAT! :-(

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

Most of the club sports get some funding from the university.  Some use that
for coaching stipends, others for travel or training needs.  I played
Lacrosse at UF and we had two coaches that received stipends, our jerseys
were paid for and the officials, etc all came out of the student activity
fees.  Now of course, that was 20+ years ago, so never mind.

 

Ken

MNGator

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:17 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

i dunno if UF hired him.. but yes they have a coach.. not sure he even
gets paid to be honest...  I doubt its totally volunteer.  They do have
sponsors... ive thoughta bout seeing if the gatornet peeps wanted to gather
funds to be a sponsor... but wasnt sure anyone would be up for it

 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

Coach? They have a coach hired by UF?
I've always thought they were a club team, like the Tri-Gators Triathlon
team. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com 

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:03:30 -0500

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 

Actually I think its Ice Gators.. but that close!  :)

 

and ACTUALLY (AE)... the Tampa Bay Lightning are Stanley Cup Champs

 

 

lol

 

im really impressed by what this new coach has done with this team.. and
when I saw them when they were here a couple of years ago... i thought they
were really in a division lower than they should be.

 

 

 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net
wrote:

Who would've ever believed that a FLORIDA Ice Hockey team would be
competitive? Go Polar Gators! :-)

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:34 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] UF Hockey Update!

 


 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gainesville-FL/University-of-Florida-Gators-I
ce-Hockey/29341676825?ref=nf University of Florida Gators Ice Hockey With
14.5 seconds left in the 3rd period and only only 14 seconds after Loyola
tied the game at 2, the Gators score to continue their win streak to 16
games and secure a bid to the 2010 National Tournament which will be held
March 10-13 in Estero, FL.


 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] ARGH!

2010-02-27 Thread Ken Kirkley
Bad game all around.  The refs were terrible, didn't cost us the game, but
they were terribly inconsistent.  The team wasn't ready for this game and
that is unfortunate, this a win against Vandy and 2 in the tournament
would've moved us up to a 7 seed in the tourney.  Now we are probably
looking at a 9 or 10.  This is a bad loss, I don't care that Ugh plays well
at home, we should have destroyed them, but had no heart.

 

At this point, I am hoping to be the 4 seed in the SEC tourney, that way we
won't be in UKs bracket until the championship game.

 

Let's go, Beat Vandy!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:22 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

Nope, I'm wearing royal. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net 

Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:15:36 -0500

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

Me, too... but I'm not about to put on anything black right now!

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: oli...@bobparks.com 

To: Gator mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com  Talk 

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

I'm in mourning. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net 

Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:00:29 -0500

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

It was those ugly uniforms that did it.  They're BLACK?  Well, no wonder we
lost.

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Cecilia mailto:gator...@bellsouth.net  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

Awesome comeback in progress... just hoping the right team comes out on top!

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Jerry Belloit mailto:bell...@clarion.edu  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:19 PM

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

This is embarrassing!

 

Jerry

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Hood
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:06 PM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

Florida Georgia will always be Florida Georgia...no matter what the sport...

Go Gators !!!
Bill


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From: Cecilia gator...@bellsouth.net 

Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:31:14 -0500

To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: [gatortalk] ARGH!

 

This game is killin' me.  And I hate the Gators' ugly dark uniforms.  Navy
blue is an Auburn color, not a Florida color.  If we lose this game, I'm
blaming it on those hideous uniforms.

 

Cee 

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RE: [gatortalk] Weather

2010-02-28 Thread Ken Kirkley
39o here in Minnesota.  It is Spring!  Woo hoo!

 

Can’t wait until June when the lawn goes from white to green.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatorr
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:57 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Weather

 

19 days. Oh and we are due for sleet/snow mix on tues. 

Woody (via iPhone)


On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Gatornet Admin gator...@comcast.net wrote:

IS IT SPRING YET?

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:21 AM
To:  mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Weather

 

And 50° in Jax with a high of 62° expected... and a low of 39° tonight!  

 

Cee  

- Original Message - 

From: J. Fran mailto:jfr...@earthlink.net  Lasseter 

To:  mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:26 AM

Subject: [gatortalk] Weather

 

And 48.2 in Daytona Beach. Dang! What is going on? Fran

 

70? In Washington? You should still be buried under a foot of snow! What’s
wrong with this picture? 70 in Washington – 39 in Tennessee?

 

Randy

 

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Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Bobsled Gator

 

Temps are really nice here!  It hit 70 degrees today.  Spring is here!!

 

Randy, come visit and thaw out a bit! (-:


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I’m sick of sitting here stoking the fire in the fireplace and shivering
while I watch all those people on the cliff walking around in tank tops and
sweating! :-(

 

Randy

 

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I'm tired of watching the ebb tide in Hilo Bay.  Is that Gator Bobsled dude
on the Olympics tonight?  

 

John

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Final score tomorrow

2010-03-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
UF 77

UK 73

 

It's a done deal.

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] Final score tomorrow

 

Anybody who nails the final score, I'll send you a $25 Publix Gift card.
I'll make it $50.  You gotta get both teams right.  If you only get one team
right, that doesn't count.  

 

I say Kentucky 81, UF 69

 

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Deonte Thompson learns an important lesson - Don't say anything that can be remotely construed as negative about Tim Tebow

2010-03-24 Thread Ken Kirkley

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Ben Volin is one of the most
'gotcha' journalists out there.  He is always looking for a story that isn't
there, for instance who is the one that went back through all the court
records to find every arrest or ticket issued?  Who then wrote an article
comparing it to other schools in much larger cities?  Ben Volin is a piece
of work.


 


 


Deonte Thompson learns an important lesson - Don't say anything that can be
remotely construed as negative about Tim Tebow


by Ben Volin 

Steve Spurrier learned an important lesson last summer. Chad Henne learned
it last week, and now it's Deonte Thompson's turn:

Don't say anything that could even be remotely construed as negative or a
slight toward Tim Tebow. Media and fans will pounce.

Thompson, a product of Belle Glade and entering his red-shirt junior season,
finds himself as the subject of controversy and derision for comments he
gave after yesterday's spring practice that he's excited about working with
John Brantley, whom he called a real quarterback. 

The answer, frankly, is no. But that doesn't stop the Gotcha journalists
and bloggers from pouncing.

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] So TT posed at least liek 400-500 times just at the Jax photo thingy?

2010-03-26 Thread Ken Kirkley
At $165 a pop, I would have the patience of Jobe too!  There are a couple of
pictures in there though that are certainly a waste of the money.  Bummer if
you blinked.

 

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] So TT posed at least liek 400-500 times just at the Jax
photo thingy?

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/PBAutographs/TimTebowJacksonvillePhotos#
http://picasaweb.google.com/PBAutographs/TimTebowJacksonvillePhotos 

Oh boy...the patience this kid has!

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

2010-03-27 Thread Ken Kirkley
Outside of knowing how to use the English language, I bet Bob Tebow knows
that Mike Shanahan is the coach of the 'Skins..

 

 

Tebow's father told a Jacksonville television director this week that his
son will be taken before the 16th pick. No clue where Bob came up with that
number. Maybe he know something we don't. Perhaps. Or maybe he's just trying
to put a little pressure on Jacksonville, which has the 10th overall pick.
Either way, it's interesting that Bob Tebow would make such a statement.

When asked if Jacksonville might trade down and take Tebow later in the
first round, Bob Tebow said, He'll be gone. Somebody is going to take him.

Tebow has worked out privately for several NFL teams, including the
Washington Redskins. The Redskins have the fourth overall pick. It would be
the draft shock of the last decade if new 'Skins vice president and coach
Bill Shanahan took Tebow at four.

 

 

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Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
courtesy of JunoGator

 

 

 


Is Tim Tebow a top 15 pick?


GAINESVILLE -- Former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow will be in Palm Beach
Gardens at 1 p.m. on Saturday signing autographs at The Gardens Mall. Should
you make the drive north to see Timmy? Bring your pocket book if you're
interested. Tebow is selling his signature for $160 a pop. Photos with Tim
are $75.

Tebow has been making the autograph circuit lately and making some pretty
good cash doing it after signing a contract with an memorabilia company. Of
course, Tebow hopes to become a millionaire on the first day of the NFL
Draft. Will it happen? The pundits say no. Bob Tebow says yes.

Tebow's father told a Jacksonville television director this week that his
son will be taken before the 16th pick. No clue where Bob came up with that
number. Maybe he know something we don't. Perhaps. Or maybe he's just trying
to put a little pressure on Jacksonville, which has the 10th overall pick.
Either way, it's interesting that Bob Tebow would make such a statement.

When asked if Jacksonville might trade down and take Tebow later in the
first round, Bob Tebow said, He'll be gone. Somebody is going to take him.

Tebow has worked out privately for several NFL teams, including the
Washington Redskins. The Redskins have the fourth overall pick. It would be
the draft shock of the last decade if new 'Skins vice president and coach
Bill Shanahan took Tebow at four.

Many think the idea of Tebow being drafted in the first round is
preposterous. I'm not one of those people. He is worth the risk when you
take into account his work ethic, leadership abilities and fan following.
He's durable, he's a lightning rode of positive emotions, he makes the
people around him better and the guy is already more marketable than most of
the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Oh, and did I mention he started three
seasons for the University of Florida, graduated with honors, beat Sam
Bradford head-to-head in the 2009 national championship game and was
statistically one of the most efficient passers in college football. News
flash: NFL teams like efficiency.

If his father is correct, and Tebow will be gone after the 15th pick, here's
where I think Tebow will be drafted. If Jacksonville doesn't take him with
the 10th pick then Tebow will go to Seattle at 14. Go ahead, call me crazy,
but Pete Carroll is starting over in Seattle and I'd be willing to bet he'd
like to do it with Tebow. 

-jo-


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RE: [gatortalk] Duke-Butler score predictions

2010-04-05 Thread Ken Kirkley
If Duke scores 64, they win.  Butler's only hope is to keep it very low
scoring.  Duke 72-59.

 

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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:50 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Duke-Butler score predictions

 

Let's get some score predictions in tonight.  I predict Tiger Woods will not
score (in the sack) this weekend.

 

Nyuk, nuyk.

 

I say Butler puts on the Glass Slipper at midnight, sending the Dookies
home, 65-64.

 

Anyone else?

 

Johnny

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football

2010-04-13 Thread Ken Kirkley
Disagree totally that coaching has improved.  Bimbo is a complete joke.  He
got all the credit at LSU and they weren't that good.  He has been in effect
the head coach at SOW and they aren't that good.  Recruiting is not good,
they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted.  No recruiting on the
lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB.  Until they
get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want,
they still won't win.

 

With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM
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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football

 

If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be
improved.

Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th
nationally.  That's really not that great considering they're one of the
Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country.
So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting.  that equals ACC champs!!
Wahoo!!  Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet?  I would really
like to purchase one!!  (not really)

 

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Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football

 

Keith wrote:

Coaching will be much improved.  
--

Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for
example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players
to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that
list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll
remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.

I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews retired.

Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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From: ke...@baldwinnc.com 

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football

 

Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB
Bowden was a first step for FSU.  They are not back yet - but took the first
step.   They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year!  Once they get back to
going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a
contender again.  

 

But their recruiting was much improved.  Coaching will be much improved.  

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football
From: Oliver Barry oli...@bobparks.com
Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com



Heh.  that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for
the Heisman trophy.  The first guy is an idiot too.  He's the fat guy on
ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!!

 

We're not going to be as good this year?  Did Tony happen to read anything
about the Orangeand Blue game?  After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the
first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again.
Will we lose more than one game?  Nah.  

 

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Bob Parks Realty

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Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  


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mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM
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Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football

 

Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5


 


 


Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again


9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart

 It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn?

 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hoping-for a huge drop off at
Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season
as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses-QB
Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron
Hernandez-are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John
Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game.
The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre
Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery,
Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the Tebow
package in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of
work to do on defense. But when you look at the 

RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu]

2010-04-16 Thread Ken Kirkley
Ahhh, beach balls.  I worked at Radio Shack while going to UF (yes, I was
that cool!), they ran a promo every year where you could buy a beach ball
for a quarter.  I used to take the leftovers to football and basketball
games until about '86 when they threw me and my balls out.  They even
stopped throwing the newspapers on the floor at the basketball games around
the same time.  Anyone remember the guy that would sweep the floor doing the
dance?

 

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:35 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned
[Andreu]

 

 

.and then beach balls. Flag on the play. That's over the top.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:39 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned
[Andreu]

 

This is outrageous!

 

What's next - banning paper fights and alcohol!

 

 

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Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Eye-black messages banned [Andreu]
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Date: Fri, April 16, 2010 8:26 am
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com


Eye-black messages banned


 

Rob C. Witzel / Sun file photo 

Florida quarterback Tim Tebow greets players after the Gators' 62-3 win over
Charleston Southern while sporting the bible verse Proverbs 3:5 which
according to the New King James Version says Trust in the LORD with all
your heart, And lean not on your own understanding.


By Robbie Andreu mailto:andr...@gvillesun.com 
Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. 

 

 

Tim Tebow started a college football tradition the past few years by writing
Bible verses on his eye black for each game. But that tradition is over -
and not just because Tebow has graduated from the University of Florida.

On Thursday, the NCAA banned eye-black messages.

During his UF career, Tebow had thousands of fans looking up the Bible
verses during and after each Gator game.

When he wrote John 3:16 on his eye black for the 2008 national
championship game against Oklahoma, Google experienced about 94 million
searches for the verse.

The NCAA on Thursday also banned wedge blocks. Also, taunting in the field
of play will start costing teams points in 2011. The NCAA's Playing Rules
Oversight Panel approved the three rules changes.

One year after the NFL banned wedge blocking on kickoffs because of safety
concerns, the NCAA followed the lead. The new rule says that when the team
receiving a kickoff has more than two players standing within two yards of
one another, shoulder to shoulder, it will be assessed a 15-yard penalty -
even if there is no contact between the teams.

The reason: NCAA studies have shown that 20 percent of all injuries
occurring on kickoffs result in concussions.

Everybody is looking to make sure we have a safe environment for the
players, said Grant Teaff, executive director of the American Football
Coaches Association. On kickoffs, you have a lot of steam on both sides and
you usually have what is called a 'wedge buster.' This will eliminate some
of that.

The hope is it will reduce concussions, an issue that has received greater
attention over the past year.

The NCAA deemed it so important that it made a rare rules change in an
off-year of the normal two-year process.

But it's the taunting rule that will create the biggest buzz.

Currently, players who are penalized for taunting on their way to the end
zone draw a 15-yard penalty on the extra-point attempt, 2-point conversion
attempt or the ensuing kickoff.

Beginning in 2011, live-ball penalties will be assessed from the spot of the
foul and eliminate the score. Examples include players finishing touchdown
runs by high-stepping into the end zone or pointing the ball toward an
opponent.

Celebration penalties following a score will continue to be assessed on
conversion attempts or the ensuing kickoff.

I think one of the reasons it's been looked at is that when a penalty
occurs on the field, it's normally taken from the spot, Teaff said. This
was the only occurrence that it wasn't taken from the spot, so they wanted
to change that.

Taunting has caused an annual debate among college football players, coaches
and fans, and last season's big controversy stemmed from Georgia receiver
A.J. Green receiving a 15-year personal foul penalty after he caught a
go-ahead touchdown pass late in a game against LSU.

The yardage from the penalty was assessed on the kickoff and helped LSU get
into position to drive for the winning score. Southeastern Conference
officials said later that there was no video evidence to support the flag on
Green.

A third change bans the use of eye black containing symbols or messages, a
trend that 

[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Oh ... what could have been

2010-04-16 Thread Ken Kirkley
 

Big difference, when Vince went to UNC you didn't expect him to be a one and
done, that one hurt.  This one is different.  Knight will absolutely be a
one and done and as such wanted assurances from his coach that he would be a
starter and have x minutes of playing time.  Billy D was never and will
never promise any player minimum playing time much less a starting role.
Meanwhile, Gillespie has made a career out of one and dones.  Of course, he
has taken 2 teams to the final four, but never to a national championship,
that requires solid upperclass leadership which his teams never seem to
have.  Also, is it a coincidence that both programs he took to the final 4
had to vacate their tourney wins and final 4 after he left due to NCAA
violations?  Give hime 4 years at UK and he will have worn out his welcome
and head off to the NBA.

 

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Behalf Of Juno Gator
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:42 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Oh ... what could have been

 


 


Why does this recruiting result remind me of when Vince Carter opted for
North Carolina .


Kentucky gets a special kid . who plays ball, too


Brandon Knight leaves a legacy at Pine Crest


Ethan J. Skolnick

Sports columnist

 

FORT LAUDERDALE   -  Brandon Knight hardly needed a recommendation, let
alone a glowing one, to earn admission into any college in America. A repeat
Florida Mr. Basketball and Gatorade National Player of the Year? No need to
waste time and trees. Son, just show up and start shooting.

Yet this is what colleges got, if they cared to read it. They got an English
Honors III teacher raving about Brandon's perfect articulation in reading
Shakespeare, and describing the stillness of the room as his peers
listened in rapt attention to his Macbeth soliloquy. They got an Advanced
Placement statistics teacher recalling all the times he would stay for extra
help, even it meant missing dinner before a game. They got his college
counselor gushing, A finer Pine Crest student I cannot imagine.

So that's what Kentucky is getting, along with arguably the greatest
basketball player Broward County
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/  has ever produced,
someone with skills to match those of other point guards (Derrick Rose,
Tyreke Evans, John Wall) John Calipari has recently coached. They're getting
someone who has a 4.3 grade-point average, someone physics teacher Naeemah
Owens would love to clone, someone who would ask for further explanation
about the one question missed on a test, not because he wanted the points,
but just so he could understand.

They're getting one of the most special student-athletes this area has ever
seen.

Knight made his announcement Wednesday afternoon in the standing-room-only
Stacy Auditorium. 

The clapping began at 3:58, then silence, then whispers, then a boy turning
to his mother to tell her not to cough, then silence again, all as Efrem and
Tonya Knight slid their chairs slightly forward on stage, and Brandon
listened through an earpiece to questions coming from a studio in Bristol,
Conn.

The place where I plan to play my college basketball.

He fumbled under the table for the hat that would reveal the secret his
mother had kept for about a month, even as she wanted to scream it to all
who asked.

.is the University of Kentucky.

That was followed by 52 seconds of cheering, whistling and a we love you
or two - from teammates, classmates, teachers, administrators, children and
even a family that had flown down from Lexington, actually arranging a
weeklong South Florida vacation around this sacred event.

It was the obvious choice for him, said Mike Rankin, 35, wearing a
Wildcats T-shirt. When he goes to Kentucky, he'll be a rock star.

Instantly, Internet surfers started questioning the decision, wondering why
such a strong student would play for a controversial coach who specializes
in one-and-doners. That was my initial reaction, too. Why not go to, say,
Duke? But Knight will get more out of one year of education, wherever, than
most college students would get from four. As he told ESPNU, Your mind is
going to last you a lot longer than your legs, so I feel I have to try to
get my education so I can be ready for life after basketball.

And if it's just one year, for now?

His mother won't mind.

You know what, everybody's goal in life is to live their dream, whether you
want to be a lawyer, an NBA player or whatever, Tonya Knight said. If he
has an opportunity to go the NBA, and that's his dream, why not live it?
With the AP classes, he'll walk in with 20-something credits already. Get
one year out of the way, maybe the summers, you know what, he can do the
rest online.

As she spoke,15 minutes after the announcement, giddy children in green
school uniforms had formed a line, all holding something for him to sign. He
took a photo with a much bigger kid, a school security officer, who

RE: [gatortalk] Question about taunting rule

2010-04-16 Thread Ken Kirkley
This rule wouldn't have affected the '07 dawg pile.  They did that after
they scored and were penalized for 2 personal fouls.  My understanding is
this rule is only for taunting during live action (high stepping into the
endzone, pointing at the player, etc.)  once you cross into the endzone,
live action stops and it becomes a dead ball penalty.  Am I missing
something?

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I agree that it's ridiculous.  So many of these refs can't tell the
difference between a taunt and a celebration.

I'd say the 2007 Georgia end zone dance was definitely a collective taunt.
Players should have been ejected for that.

But just wait.  Some player will thrust his fist in the air as he crosses
the goal line, with no opposing player in sight, and he'll be flagged for a
taunt.

This gives the refs way too much discretion, and credit.

Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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From: Woody Bass gatorrr...@gmail.com
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To: Gatortalkgatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Question about taunting rule

Sooo.. question...  will the taunting rule include the chomp?  On  
SportsNation on ESPN just now.. they said the score will be negated  
for even high stepping into the end zone.

Personally i think this rule is ridiculous...  talk about nanny state.

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early

2010-04-20 Thread Ken Kirkley
Burton will be a freshman this year, Driskel will most likely redshirt in
2011, giving them 2 years separation.  Perfect.

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to
Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early

 

 Assuming Brantley stays next year, Burton keeps progressing like he did
over the spring, Burton concentrates only on football, and Driskel splits
time between football and baseball, but Driskel is a better QB than Burton
coming out of high school

 

hard to predict who will have the advantage when Brantley leaves

 

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Subject: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Jeff Driskel commits to Florida
Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll early
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Date: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:29 am
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com


Jeff Driskel commits to Florida Gators' 2011 recruiting class, will enroll
early


Oviedo Hagerty QB Jeff Driskel, shown above at the Elite 11 QB camp in
February, has made official his commitment to the Florida Gators. He will
enroll at UF in January. (Photo by Chris Hays/Orlando Sentinel / February
14, 2010)

 
By Chris Hays | Orlando Sentinel
12:29 a.m. EDT, April 20, 2010 

Oviedo Hagerty QB Jeff Driskel
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-recruiting-jeff-driskel-photo-bio,
0,7862483.photo  says he knew he wanted to be a Florida Gator. And even
after sitting on it for a week, he still said he was sure enough to announce
his decision to commit to the University of Florida on Monday.

Driskel made a trip to Gainesville on Thursday to tell Florida coaches Urban
Meyer, Scot Loeffler and Steve Addazio that he had made his decision.

I told them what I was thinking, Driskel said, and then I went back home
and kind of re-evaluated everything and talked to my parents and I knew I
wanted to be a Gator, so I let it go public today.

(Meyer) was just happy to have me and he wanted me to go back and work with
my high school team get some more wins, Driskel added. He said he was
happy to have me as part of the Gators.

News started to circulate around the internet recruiting Web sites Monday
afternoon that Driskel, the No. 12 quarterback in the nation for 2011
according to Scout.com, had picked Florida.

Driskel, who also plays baseball at Hagerty and plans to play both sports at
UF, sent a text after baseball practice Monday that read, Yea, I
committed.

Hagerty football coach Nate Gierke was happy to see Driskel comfortable with
his decision and was assured by Driskel that he wouldn't be changing his
mind.

Yes that's confirmed, he actually did that last week but he wanted to make
sure and Urban (Meyer) and the coaching staff up there wanted him to make
sure that's what he wanted to do, Gierke said. So he talked to his parents
and went over it with them and re-evaluated the situation and that's when he
decided to go ahead and make it official.

When he first told me about it today, he said, 'Yes, that's what I want to
do. Why wait?' 

Driskel (6-4, 220), the No. 5-ranked player in the Sentinel's 2011 Central
Florida Super60 and top Orlando-area QB, has pretty much been the only
quarterback Hagerty fans have ever known. The fifth-year school has played
varsity football only three seasons and Driskel has started as QB in 28 of
the 30 games.

The Huskies have won five games in those three seasons, but Gierke said
people read too much into those numbers.

We're such a young program here that it's really hard to evaluate someone
on just the victories, Gierke said. But this is a big deal for us, pretty
special. He's the first D-I prospect from the program and it couldn't happen
to a better kid. He's a special player and I am certainly happy for him.

Driskel threw for 1,427 yards and 11 touchdowns last season, completing
exactly 50 percent of his passes (105-210). He also rushed for six TDs and
his ability to run can be very deceiving for the big-framed quarterback.

He's clocked a 4.5 40-yard dash and doesn't mind tucking the ball up the
field if a play breaks down.

For his career at Hagerty, Driskel has thrown for 3,021 passsing yards and
34 total touchdowns (21 passing, 13 rushing).

I'm glad I got it over with, Driskel said. I'm really excited. It's one
of the best programs in the nation if not the best.

Even though it's early and National Signing Day is still 10 months away
(Feb. 2, 2010), the constant recruiting process was beginning to wear on
him.

It was hectic, he said. There was a period there where I was talking to
guys every night and offers were just pouring in. It was crazy and fun at
the same time, but I'm happy to say it's over.

Now he can focus on his senior season. Spring football across Florida starts
May 1.

It's going to be a little bit easier in spring practice now to be able to
focus on my high 

RE: [gatortalk] Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game?

2010-04-21 Thread Ken Kirkley
He was at the stadium and met with recruits and players beforehand.  I don't
think he ever was in the stands as he wanted to avoid being a public
distraction.

 

Of course, if I were Jo Goodman - the story would be, Tebow angry at Meyer
for not preparing him for NFL - distances himself from Gator program'

 

Ken K.

MNGator

 

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Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring
game?

 

Didn't I read that he was in the stands talking to some recruits, then left
because he didn't want to upstage Brantley?

Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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Anyone hear why tebow did not attend the spring game?

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: Tebow aims to make Broncos look good for picking him [Associated Press]

2010-04-26 Thread Ken Kirkley
#10 as in 2010 Draftee.

 

He will wear 15 in Denver.

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: Tebow aims to make
Broncos look good for picking him [Associated Press]

 

Did anyone else notice he's holding a #10 jersey?!?  Is that going to be his
Bronco's #??  Why not #15?

 

 

On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Shane Ford wrote:






Tebow aims to make Broncos look good for picking him


 
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100424/ARTICLES/100429684/1136?p=allt
c=pgall 

The Associated Press

Tim Tebow meets the media in Denver on Friday.


The Associated Press

Published: Saturday, April 24, 2010 at 6:01 a.m. 
Last Modified: Friday, April 23, 2010 at 7:07 p.m.

 

 

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - Tim Tebow looked out the foggy window as his
weather-delayed flight dropped through the dark clouds and descended into
Centennial Airport on Friday afternoon.

He saw the snow-covered city, the wind-whipped pines and the snarled traffic
and thought, there's just no better place he could have landed to begin his
NFL career.

The southpaw shotgun quarterback who helped Florida win two national titles
said he's determined to repay coach Josh McDaniels for making him the
surprise No. 25 pick of the Denver Broncos.

I can't be more thankful for him deciding to take me, Tebow said at his
introductory news conference Friday. That will be one of my biggest goals
is proving him right and making him proud.

McDaniels tutored three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady in New England,
helped Matt Cassel become an NFL starter and guided Kyle Orton to his best
statistical season of his career in Denver last year.

The work that he's done with the quarterbacks that he's been around, the
influence that he's made on them in their careers has been amazing, Tebow
said. I'm just blessed to play for him. I think he's one of the best
coaches in the NFL. I firmly believe that.

I'm drawn to him, too, because he's so passionate. I think that's going to
bring out a lot of things about me and my character and my excitement for
football and excitement for life, Tebow added. We were both talking about
how we can't sleep we're so excited.

In Tebow, McDaniels has a big project on his hands in maybe the most
intriguing pro prospect since Michael Vick.

This is the Heisman Trophy winner who some called the greatest college
player ever. Now he is an NFL enigma, a big question mark because of his
throwing motion and the offense he ran at Florida.

Last week, McDaniels raved about the left-handed Tebow, who has developed a
new passing motion that allows him to drop back with the ball at his
shoulder instead of near his hip and release it quicker.

Tebow said eliminating the loop or backswing in his motion only took a
matter of weeks and now he's adjusting his footwork for the three-, five-
and seven-stop drops he'll be making in the NFL.

Some scouts think it could take two years for Tebow to make the transition
from combination college quarterback to prototypical pocket passer. Others
argue his success in college, his passion for football and his work ethic
will make the transition smoother and shorter.

A work in progress either way, Tebow is looking up at Orton and Brady Quinn
on the quarterback depth chart while the smart money has him spending his
rookie season running some wildcat plays while honing his game to play more
in 2011.

Well, I look at it as I am a prototypical quarterback, Tebow insisted. I
like to do the things that a regular quarterback does, and then I'm blessed
with athletic ability to do extra things. That's how I look at it. ... I'm
going to be a regular quarterback, a pocket quarterback and I'm going to
work and try to be great at that. That is my goal, I want to be a great
pocket passer, and that's something I'm working on.

Tebow said he's been proving critics wrong his whole athletic life, so he's
not bothered by all the critics who questioned Denver taking him in the
first round while more polished passers Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen were
available.

I love a challenge and I love when somebody tells me that I can't because
it just pushes me that much more, Tebow said.

Tebow said he's selected jersey No. 15, which became available when the
Broncos traded Pro Bowl wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Miami.

The Broncos replaced Marshall by taking wide receiver Demaryius Thomas of
Georgia Tech with the 22nd overall pick Thursday night.

Thomas said he thinks he convinced the Broncos they should select him in
part because I'm a good guy.

Thomas said living with his uncle, James Brown, a preacher, after his mother
and grandmother were incarcerated on drug charges when he was 12, is what
set him on the right path.

He said he spoke with his mother, Shirley Brown, on the phone Friday
morning.

They watched last night, Thomas said. She just said she 

RE: [gatortalk] ~~Hi~~

2010-04-27 Thread Ken Kirkley
Oh, That's what they meant by HI

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Subject: Re: [gatortalk] ~~Hi~~

I'll be the fearless one with a virus-proof linux VM. Just an ad for
Canadian pharmaceuticals... particularly the kind that make your maple leaf
stand up.

-Sean



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RE: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles helmets (was Football king in South, in spring [Andreu])

2010-05-10 Thread Ken Kirkley
BAN HIM!

 

;)

:-)

 

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Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles  helmets (was Football king in
South, in spring [Andreu])

 

OOPS! Sorry, boss, I replied before I saw your reply. ;-)

 

Randy

 

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Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:14 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Motorcycles  helmets (was Football king in South,
in spring [Andreu])

 


Since the Gator connection here is tenuous at best, let's Helen Rule this
conversation.

We all love Randy and want him to stick around for a long time, but I can
see this discussion venturing into THFGT territory, where, by the way, you
all can feel free to discuss it at length.

(See - I'm not asleep at the wheel!)

Steve

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Wild Turkey Slams Into Motorcyclist's Face


42-Year-Old Woman Becomes Entangled In Barbed-Wired Fence


 

NUFF SAID!

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars

2010-05-14 Thread Ken Kirkley
Sigh. the off season.

 

Come on, at least speculate that Urban wouldn't have had so much stress if
he had been driving fast in a sports car.

 

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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:12 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars

 

plus insurance rates were outrageous 

 

so there are a few benefits to getting rid of it

 

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars
From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 8:05 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Yeah, I know what you mean, but although I HAVE gotten pulled over more than
usual, they see my age and then just warn me. :-) 

 

Randy

 

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mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: sports cars

 

I had a sports car many years ago - had a lot of fun - but was glad to get
rid of it.

 

I got pulled over ALL the time - even though I tried to always drive perfect

 

When I switched to a old person's car - I drove like an idiot - and never
got pulled

 

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Subject: RE: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy
From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 7:39 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Mine is an '05 4.0 with a 5-speed. I have enjoyed it more than any car I've
ever owned. I will miss it, but given the choice to keep it or my bike - my
bike is getting a new paint job! :) 

Randy

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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:10 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy

OH, MAN! I'm sorry, dude! I also hate to hear you have to get rid of a
Mustang. I used to have a '95 GT before I had kids and I loved that car!
Man, it was so much fun to drive. What year is yours? Have you seen the '11
coming out? SUH-WEET!!

Take care,

SHANE

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--Original Message--
From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:27:46 PM GMT-0400
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy

Unfortunately, while you are putting one ON your car, I'll be taking mine
off soon. In an attempt to cut costs, Sprint is issuing us company cars, so
I'll be selling the 'stang soon. My wife still has hers, but my company car
(2010 Fusion) will have just the plain Tennessee tag.

Randy

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mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:13 AM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: [gatortalk] My New Gator Toy

Attached is a photo of my new Gator Toy. I've been wanting one of these
very badly for many years, so it was very exciting for me to finally get one
fo these bad boys. I am able to join a very elite group of Gator fans here
in TN by proudly displaying our Gator pride on the back of our cars in all
kinds of weather, enjoying the pissed off stares and head shakes from all of
the Vols fans. I wanted to share my joy with you guys, because other than
Oliver, my wife, and my kids, no one else seems to be able to enjoy it. :-)
My Dad even just shook his head in disbelief. I told him that if they lose
a big game, I can't take it off my car like some fans do. To me, it's the
next closest thing to a tattoo, for a guy who will never consider one. :-)

THANKS,

SHANE

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[gatortalk] Billy...

2010-05-18 Thread Ken Kirkley
Calipari to the Nets with LeBron.  Billy to UK.  Done deal.

 

It is imminent.

 

Ken

MNGator

 

;)

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

2010-06-09 Thread Ken Kirkley
So, does that mean you don't have conversations with passengers in your car,
or sing along with the radio?  Those are equally as distracting..

 

This might be heading to too hot.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:21 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

It's not just your hands and eyes that you should be worried about, though.
Even talking while using a Bluetooth creates a distraction for drivers.  You
know darn well that your brain can be seeing something completely
different if you're engaged in a phone conversation instead of giving your
full concentration to the road.  Sure, it's marginally better than having to
drive with your pinkies while using your thumbs to text and looking down at
the phone screen (or over it to see the road peripherally)... but the
difference really is only marginal according to what I've read.  Your brain
is still the most important body part to use while you're driving, and you
should be focusing as much of it as possible on your driving and not on
phone conversations.

 

So don't call me while I'm driving because I won't answer you!  :-P~~~

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Randy mailto:gatorspo...@comcast.net  Lyons 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:01 AM

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

That's why I silence my Blackberry while driving. My Bluetooth, however,
still tells me when a call is coming in, and just simply reaching up and
pressing a button on it will answer the call. A Bluetooth is also handy for
making a call to a number in your address book. Just push the button, and at
the prompt, say Call Leon Polhill mobile and it dials the number for me.
Hand is never away from the wheel for more than a couple of seconds, and
eyes are NEVER off of the road.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

While I was just taking advantage of another of the many opportunities to
give Randy grief, I would have to agree that this is a grave problem.
Fatalities are increasing exponentially as a result of texting while
driving. 
It's very tempting to do when the mobile is buzzing on the highway. The
result is immediate disaster. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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From: Charlie ces1...@gmail.com 

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:34:42 -0400

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

The ones that are texting while driving are a real hoot. I was behind a guy
the other day going 20 mph in a 45 mph zone. When I finally got around him I
glanced over and he was just texting away, thumbs were flying. 

 


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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

Sorry. It's just my latest soapbox. I actually DO have a sense of humor,
but observing drivers weaving while looking down or oblivious to the traffic
around them because they are engrossed in a cell phone conversation is
becoming alarming.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:47 AM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

Then, there are those who have no sense of humor. They usually become
mail-list administrators. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@comcast.net 

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:38:22 -0400

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

You shouldn't TOUCH your cell phone while driving. Use a Bluetooth and if
your cell phone doesn't support voice commands, upgrade to one that does.
My cell phone stays in it's holster while I'm driving. I check email/text
messages when I stop. Distracted driving is killing people.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:07 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

You shouldn't e-mail and drive eith

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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From: ken...@earthlink.net 

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:05:01 +

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Miami beat Texas AM to face UF

 

Thanks again, Leon.

I hope you and Paula enjoy the tour of the southwest, and are able to post
when the mood strikes you. Just remember: don't text and drive.

By the way, if you're there, watch out for the speed traps between
Albuquerque and Santa Fe. 

[gatortalk] Re: Non-Gator Related

2009-06-07 Thread Ken Kirkley
Cpngratulations Randy!  
 
I have been through several 'wilderness' experiences and will be taking your
place on this one soon.  Effective July 1, I am back on the street.  At
least I will have time to spend with the kids over summer!
 
Ken K.

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:47 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Non-Gator Related


I'm not trying to start a non-gator related thread, and the ONLY reason I'm
mentioning it here is because several months ago a large number of us
participated in a thread relating to the mass of layoffs that has hit our
country. Many of us here on Gatornet had been affected either directly or
indirectly by the layoffs, and I indicated that I was one of the casualties,
having been laid off twice during 2008.
 
Well, the first layoff for me occurred in March of last year and it was by
Sprint, which I have said was the best job I ever had. I loved working for
Sprint, loved my job, loved my teams, blah, blah, blah. Do you get the
picture? Mushy, I know, but true.
 
Anyway, being laid-off by Sprint affected me traumatically, and I never
really recovered from it. Even though I was hired for a short time as a
corporate controller, the economy forced them to outsource their financials
for 25% of my salary and I was laid off again in October. All in all, 2008
was not a very good year for me or thousands of other people. I know I
wasn't the only one going through it.
 
I think I'm rambling, so let me try to get to my point.
 
This past Thursday, after over a week of negotiations (no, I'm not a union
guy - it just seemed to be the appropriate word to use), I received an offer
from Sprint to resume my previous position beginning Monday and with a
substantial raise. I am going from managing 17 sales teams to 26 sales
teams, which will, of course, keep me pretty busy and on the road, but after
spending the last 7 months at home, I WANT to be busy and I WANT to be on
the road!
 
To say I'm happy would be understating it. I'm actually quite giddy. I
feel like a young Randy and the best looking girl at school just asked me to
take her to the prom. It was TOTALLY unexpected and an incredible rush of
validation. After months and months of doubting my own self-worth, I realize
now that it wasn't me at all. I just happened to be in the wrong place at
the wrong time. That wrong place was on a list of what some economics expert
determined was expendable positions.
 
Many of us here have been together for over 15 years, so I consider you good
friends even though we might actually only see each other once every 5-6
years. I just wanted to share my good news with you, and hopefully the
moderator won't chastise me for this being non-gator related. :)
 
Oh, did I mention I can't wait for Monday morning? It might be a VERY long
time (if ever) that I dread Monday's again! :)

Randy
 
 




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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

2009-06-12 Thread Ken Kirkley
If the wins are vacated, the loss still counts for the opposing team.  If
they had to forfeit the games, then the opposing team would gain the win.

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Alexander
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:46 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football
program on probation  A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems



I don't know the answer to this for sure, but one of the articles about the
Semiholes said that if they have to vacate their wins, then their record
could be 0-6 (or something like that) for one year. That suggests to me that
the win is just wiped away from the winner, but not given to the loser. If
the other team would get the win, then FSU would have an 0-12 record instead
of 0-6. That's just me reading between the lines. If anyone knows about
this, it would be great to know for sure exactly how it works.

 

Rob

 

 

From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football
program on probation  A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

 

I hear about schools vacating wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of
the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also
change OUR record to indicate one additional win?

 

Randy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Shane  mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net Ford 

To: GatorNEWS mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM

Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on
probation  A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

 


NCAA places Alabama football program on probation


By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer 

Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. 
Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. 

 

---snip, snip, snip--

As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which
any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that
pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins,
including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of
Florida earlier that season.





 





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates

2009-07-22 Thread Ken Kirkley

Even more unfortunate and unbelievable - no stations in Minnesota!  What is
up with that? And I thought I would get away with not purchasing Gameplan
this year...


Ken Kirkley
k...@kirkley.net


-Original Message-
From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Gatortalk-list
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates


Unfortunately there is a TBA listed for the Ft. Pierce/ WPB area. I
certainly hope they get a station. It would be terrible to have moved back
here from Tennessee and not have a SEC network station.
 
Charlie

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:15 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates


Found on UT web site:

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072109aaa.html
 

 
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Shane Ford goufgat...@bellsouth.net
wrote:



ESPN will produce SEC games on regional TV



By John Patton mailto:patt...@gvillesun.com Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. 

 

ESPN Regional Television and the SEC have announced a regionally syndicated
college sports package that will air in more than 73 television markets.
Included in that will be the branding of the syndication package as the SEC
Network.

 

 http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090721/ARTICLES/907219940#%23
Click to enlarge 

 

The SEC and ESPN recently signed a 15-year contract, and coverage on the SEC
Network will include football, men's and women's basketball.

As ESPN moves forward in this landmark agreement with the SEC, ESPN
Regional Television is thrilled to provide our viewers with a consistent
window for Southeastern Conference football and basketball, said Pete
Derzis, senior vice president  general manager of ESPN Regional Television.
With ESPN's multimedia platforms, we anticipate SEC sports will touch an
unprecedented base of college fans nationwide.

Beginning Sept. 5, the SEC Network, which will be carried on WOGX in
Gainesville, will air 13 regular-season football games. The noon telecasts
will have a different touch than previous deals with Jefferson Pilot and
Lincoln Financial in that they will open with a live SEC studio show, which
will be based out of Charlotte and hosted by Rob Stone and former Georgia
offensive lineman Matt Stinchcomb.

Kickoff will be at 12:21 p.m., and the games will be called by Dave Neal,
1989 Heisman Trophy winner Andre Ware and sideline reporter Cara Capuano.

The regular-season SEC men's basketball package on the SEC Network beginning
in January will consist of Wednesday and Saturday games, including
doubleheaders. The SEC Network will also offer regional coverage of multiple
rounds from the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament as well as SEC women's
basketball games on Sundays, also beginning in January.

The SEC Network, through the efforts of ESPN, will be the largest college
sports syndication television package in the country, SEC Commissioner Mike
Slive said. The comprehensive market coverage in the nine-state SEC area
combined with the out-of-market reach gives us significant additional
exposure for our programs.

In other television news, Sun Sports announced a new program called SEC
Gridiron LIVE, a 60-minute studio show offering game previews, analysis and
a social networking component that enables fan interaction. Premiering on
Sept. 2 at 10 p.m., SEC Gridiron LIVE is hosted by broadcasting veteran
Charles Davis, with analysts Randy Cross, a longtime NFL lineman; and former
Georgia defensive end David Pollack, as well as social media reporter
Cassidy Hubbarth. 

SEC Gridiron LIVE will be distributed to more than 24 million cable and
satellite households on the FSN regional networks throughout the SEC
territory.

As a former SEC football player and a lifelong fan, I am thrilled for the
opportunity to host SEC Gridiron LIVE, said Davis, a former Tennessee
defensive back. SEC football fans are incredibly knowledgeable and
opinionated, and our show gives them the chance to voice their views and
opinions each week. That spirited interaction among fans and the on-air team
is what will set SEC Gridiron LIVE apart and it's something that really
excites me. I'm looking forward to working with Randy, David and Cassidy to
make this show very special.

Contact John Patton at 374-5074 or patt...@gvillesun.com.

 






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[gatortalk] Re: New group

2009-07-31 Thread Ken Kirkley
Cheryl,

I don't believe there is a Gator club in Des Moines.  We have one up here in
Minneapolis, the only others in the upper midwest are St.Louis and Chicago.
I would suggest you contact Star Sawyer at the UF Alumini association, they
will give you the details and help facilitate a club.

ssaw...@ufalumni.ufl.edu
(352) 392-1616
http://www.ufalumni.ufl.edu/GatorClubs/howtostart.aspx

Good Luck!


Ken Kirkley
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cheryl
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:10 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] New group


Hi all ~

I'm looking to start a Gator club in Des Moines, IA. I've not been able to
locate one as of yet, so I don't know if one already exists or not, and I'd
like to find out if there's an interest here.

Feedback?





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