Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:16:39 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should there not be an entry in saned.conf usb 0x03f0 0x0901 Nope not from what I can tell. Saned is purely if I'm using my scanner on the network. However I don't want my son messing with my scanner and he's on windows anyways.(tho he wants linux *g* .. not a big enough hd on it for duelboot I'm afraid...) saned.conf from the comments inside it and the man page wants ip's that are ok access to the scanner and I also must have net uncommented in the dll.conf. I've emailed hp and asked them if the 2300c is using same chipset as the 2100c/2200c or if it's using the same as the 3500c. If it's using the 3500c's chip(which it could be as my manual also covers that model) that might pose a problem. It uses a realtek chipset which they list on the sane page. However as far as I can tell no backend is up for it. My kernel does see the scanner it's just sane doesn't. :/ But eh at least the kernel see's it now.(weird that the 2.4.21 patch messes up usb) I also unmasked and am using the latest sane-frontends, sane-backends, and xsane. Unfortunately it's just not working. I also went through the dll.conf and stuck comments in as to what type of scanners the drivers cover(ie usb, scsi, paraport, etc). Going through it one by one. Somethings got to work if not I guess I'll wait til newer versions come out and reboot to scan. :P -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public. -Bryan White -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nForce support
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 16:42, Adam Mercer wrote: Hi I'm going to be building a new system soon and I am in the process of deciding what to go for. Currently I'm been hearing good things about the nForce 2 chipset, specifically the Abit NF7. Has anyone had experience with this board or the nForce 2 chipset under Gentoo before. Hows driver support for example, the NF7 comes with onboard lan and sound, are these supported? Works fine for me. Onboard lan is supported by the nforce-net ebuild, in a similar fashion to the nvidia-kernel ebuild. Sound is in alsa, but you will need to use ~x86 to get support, until rc8 makes stable. (snd-intel8x0) Sensors doesnt work yet, but support is planned for 2.8.0, so unless you want to pull the latest one from cvs you'll have to wait. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Chris signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 12:31 schrieb Felix Kurth: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kernel = 2.4.21-pre3 has native (oss) support for this device. Module: via82cxxx_audio This is not the driver for the via-8233/8255. For this hardware you have to use the alsa-driver! Greetings Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
env ALSA_CARDS='via82xx' emerge alsa-driver you will want to emerge alsa-utils too to unmute the card -Original Message- From: Alex Huth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 31 januari 2003 11:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x Am Montag, 31. März 2003 12:31 schrieb Felix Kurth: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kernel = 2.4.21-pre3 has native (oss) support for this device. Module: via82cxxx_audio This is not the driver for the via-8233/8255. For this hardware you have to use the alsa-driver! Greetings Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 im sorry but on my a7v8x (kt400) i have lspci 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) and this module works fine. - -- Felix Kurth pgp public key: http://www.fkurth.de/keys/felix.fkurth.asc key fingerprint: D401 DCF8 2BF8 50DF 2FAD 8136 C29B 83EE C0A1 F2AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iByVwpuD7sCh8q0RAmr6AJ9W2KyeXv3TQnE3t1viDsBjM4F5WwCdFEF3 hXZx8ZaZknWHbfAmdu/hStI= =dNje -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb or ps2?
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 04:48, gabor wrote: hi, i have a microsoft intellimouse. i can plug it into the usb or into the ps/2 mouse connector. question: which is better? or: do you use the usb connector to connect your mouse or the ps/2? and why? I would deffinitly recommend using USB. When choosing the modules to compile in your kernel go into INPUT CORE SUPPORT = MOUSE SUPPORT once you have enabled that module you should see horizontal and vertical screen resolution options open up, set these to your true screen resolution and your mouse scrolling will be very very smooth, and because your kernel now knows how big your screen is you should find that the mouse will move from one end of the screen to the other with a single stroke. alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 12:46 schrieb Felix Kurth: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 im sorry but on my a7v8x (kt400) i have lspci 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) and this module works fine. Hmmm, strange because i have the same board and with this modul modprobe will not do it. With the alsa-driver it´s ok. Don´t know why! Greetings Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
same here, i need to use alsa for my via8233 card -Original Message- From: Alex Huth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 31 januari 2003 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x Am Montag, 31. März 2003 12:46 schrieb Felix Kurth: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 im sorry but on my a7v8x (kt400) i have lspci 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) and this module works fine. Hmmm, strange because i have the same board and with this modul modprobe will not do it. With the alsa-driver it´s ok. Don´t know why! Greetings Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /boot/grub problem
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 14:51, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:40 pm, ds wrote: Problem solved, thank you Ernie!!! On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 16:34, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:23 pm, ds wrote: Greetings, I seem to have lost my /boot/grub location. Heck for that matter, I can't find grub.conf anywhere. I know I have it somewhere because when I boot I get my normal 5 seconds of splash screen that I specifically defined in grub.conf in my initial build. Reason I ask all this, is I made some kernel changes and went to edit grub.conf only to find I don't see the /boot path at all. Any ideas? So you know here is my disk breakdown /dev/hda1 = /boot /dev/hda2 = /swap /dev/hda3 = / Thx ahead of time. Doc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list As root do mount /boot You should find it all then. Boot is unmounted by default -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list You're welcome. Some of us here are qualified to advise others because we've asked the same questions. Lord knows I've struggled with some of the gentoo oddities myself. In most cases oddities are considered bad, I dont think thats the case here though. -- alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmmm, strange because i have the same board and with this modul modprobe will not do it. With the alsa-driver it´s ok. Don´t know why! your kernel is =2.4.21-pre3 as i said ?!? see http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.21.log on line 1139 - -- Felix Kurth pgp public key: http://www.fkurth.de/keys/felix.fkurth.asc key fingerprint: D401 DCF8 2BF8 50DF 2FAD 8136 C29B 83EE C0A1 F2AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iCItwpuD7sCh8q0RAriFAKCX0uzAz4RmTuT7WjiJ6hrp8JdiPgCfZbD3 y7qjAvy/zTig2c4Clg810I8= =8/uU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmmm, strange because i have the same board and with this modul modprobe will not do it. With the alsa-driver it´s ok. Don´t know why! btw, may sou set your system clock to a correct value ? 31.01.2003 11:03 is a little bit outdated ? - -- Felix Kurth pgp public key: http://www.fkurth.de/keys/felix.fkurth.asc key fingerprint: D401 DCF8 2BF8 50DF 2FAD 8136 C29B 83EE C0A1 F2AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iCKVwpuD7sCh8q0RAhqLAJ99XbwGumpGXqI1dGEc/+QPpK0bugCgizHU nU6op8ZPLRu3Jrau4p9C0T4= =iGrP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdparanoia, cdrdao not using DMA?
Hi Matt, Am Samstag, 30. August 2003 22:23 schrieb Matt Garman: [...] However, using the tools cdparanoia and cdrdao cause the non-DMA behavior, i.e. CPU usage goes through the roof, the process takes forever, typing lags, the mouse is jumpy, etc. Also, when the process is done, hdparm shows that DMA has been turned off for that drive! Does anyone know why DMA mode is forced off for these tools? This is one of the main problems of the ide-part in the kernel. IIRC, the ide-modules cannot handle a sectorsize mod 512 != 0 with dma (correct me...). So this is not a problem of cdrecord or cdparanoia. Try to copy a data-cd with cdparanoia, this should work with dma enabled. If not, try to force a slower dma-mode with hdparm -X. Kai -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.2.1 Window Manager Choice
begin quote On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:17:56 +0100 (BST) Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, In /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome/gnome-2.2.1.ebuild on line 22 it says: # Metacity was choosen as the default window manager because of # sawfish's long time of non-working state. and on lines 93-95 it says: note that to change windowmanager to metacity do: export WINDOW_MANAGER=\/usr/bin/metacity\ of course this works for all other window managers as well Is this a contradiction? If metacity has been chosen as default window manager then why does it need to set again as default? you dont need to, that is an example, earlier we had sawfish as default, but because the snapshots didn't turn stable, and metacity stabilized further it got merged as default, but the comment is still there and works nicely as a describing part of how to change it. I was thinking of trying out Gnome 2.2.1 and since I don't use Gnome much which window manager would you recommend that I should go with? Metacity or OpenBox are my suggestions //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-(
Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:28, Bastux wrote: When I launch frozen bubble, this error occurs : [SDL Init] Segmentation fault What can I do? As root: opengl-update xfree As normal user: frozen-bubble When finished playing, as root: opengl-update nvidia Hi, I don't need to do this. I simply use 'artsdsp frozen-bubble' and it works fine. I have nvidia glx running so that cannot be the (only) reason for this segfault. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Log into remote X server via kdm
On Saturday 29 March 2003 4:15 am, Mike Williams wrote: What I want to be able to do is, 1 big headless server running X and KDE (or may even Gnome, and others too), and multiple desktops boxes (3-4 to start with) able to login to it. So that I can use them (especially the laptop) away from the home network they must start their own X server, and KDM login screen. From there give me the option on what server to login to. I have a similar setup, with the following 2-line script dropped in /etc/X11/Sessions/KDE-on-myserver #!/bin/bash ssh -X myserver /usr/kde/3.1/bin/startkde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autocleaning
On Friday 28 Mar 2003 18:17, Matt Tucker wrote: -- Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thusly: Use this to emerge alsa-driver: --- # !/bin/bash echo Removing any installation records for alsa-driver from /var/db/pkg/ if [[ $(epm -qaG|grep alsa-driver) != ]]; then rm -Rf /var/db/pkg/$(epm -qaG|grep alsa-driver) Or: find /var/db/pkg -type d -maxdepth 2 -name 'alsa-driver*' \ | xargs rm -rf Yes, I like that better. fi AUTOCLEAN=no emerge alsa-driver --- While I'm sure that'll work, it seems like kind of a hack. It'll remove any record of the installation, so those files will never get cleaned. It does work. At the end of the emerge the record is created, so if alsa-driver gets updated, `emerge world -u` will pick it up. A better solution would be for gentoo to automagically add AUTOCLEAN=no to the ebuilds concerned (those tied to kernel version, like alsa-driver, nvidia-kernel and lm_sensors). Peter -- Gentoo-1.4.3.4 Unstable. KDE: 3.1.1 Qt: 3.1.2 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ 768MB. Kernel: 2.4.20-xfs-r2. GCC 3.2.2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM+EXT3+resize
Carlos Molina (Net-Uno) wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:41:56 +0100 Cristiano Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks that reiser is more robust fs than ext3 when it works with LVM... I should think to migrate ext3 to reiser Reiser has the tools that do all the work for you on LVM.. Any drawbacks, comments with reiser and LVM...?? Thanks a lot I would stick to ext3. It seems to be the more stable and less painful system. OK resizing is easier with reiser, but how often will you do that? And is it advisable to do it online anyway??!! And for testing it is not too hard to unmount, resize LV, resize ext3 and mount. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Samba
I just emerged Samba 2.2.8 and get funny error messages when I try to add users using smbpasswd: # smbpasswd -a xyz New SMB password: Retype new SMB password: fetch_ldap_pw: no ldap secret retrieved! ldap_connect_system: Failed to retrieve password for from secrets.tdb fetch_ldap_pw: no ldap secret retrieved! ldap_connect_system: Failed to retrieve password for from secrets.tdb Failed to add entry for user xyz. Failed to modify password entry for user xyz # Samba on Gentoo obviously uses LDAP for authentication. Is there any way to stop if from doing that? Or, alternatively, is there a good, short guide for setting up LDAP with pam authentication and Samba for Gentoo? If I go the LDAP route, I want to use it for most if not all authentication, be it Samba or shell. /roc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?
I've had issues with 4.3 and have gone back to 4.2.1. 1) winex won't work 2) some games like alpha centauri and tuxracer give me a frequency over range error from my monitor, despite the fact the the same config file works great with 4.2.1. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss On Sunday 30 March 2003 08:12 am, Christian Aust wrote: Hi, I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering. Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs, crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards, - Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anyone got lirc to work.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've tried lirc, but when I use irw it tries to connect to /dev/lirc, and complaining about it being a directory, which it is. How do I tell it to use /dev/lirc/0. Are there any ways to check that it works (it's a tv-card bundle type (PV951). - -- Sigurd Stordal President of GOGS Experimental Petrologist -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iE8oSB4UOs/snOURAvwJAJ4y73HtrueGQbdv6mv1TY+VxNhYbQCcDwMZ ggUDEL2wN8iijouWnRzC+J8= =2t9X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /boot/grub problem
On Monday 31 March 2003 05:03 am, Alex Combas wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 14:51, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:40 pm, ds wrote: Problem solved, thank you Ernie!!! On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 16:34, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:23 pm, ds wrote: Greetings, I seem to have lost my /boot/grub location. Heck for that matter, I can't find grub.conf anywhere. I know I have it somewhere because when I boot I get my normal 5 seconds of splash screen that I specifically defined in grub.conf in my initial build. Reason I ask all this, is I made some kernel changes and went to edit grub.conf only to find I don't see the /boot path at all. Any ideas? So you know here is my disk breakdown /dev/hda1 = /boot /dev/hda2 = /swap /dev/hda3 = / Thx ahead of time. Doc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list As root do mount /boot You should find it all then. Boot is unmounted by default -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list You're welcome. Some of us here are qualified to advise others because we've asked the same questions. Lord knows I've struggled with some of the gentoo oddities myself. In most cases oddities are considered bad, I dont think thats the case here though. -- alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I agree, Alex. Perhaps the right term would have been unique enhancements. What ever the term used, Gentoo does have some features that are counter to what people have learned while using other distros. The learning curve is pretty steep at first but it doesn't take too long to get relatively proficient. Once a user has unlearned a bit of past practice, I find that administering a Gentoo box is easier than an RPM based system. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage on Solaris?
Hello, How far fetched is the idea getting portage onto Solaris? We need a system so the installed sources could be traced: who was compiling it, how he was doing it, what packeges are installed now and so on. A package manager is perfect for this purpose. I'm currently inspecting rpm and portage. Portage seems winning as it is very good at compiling with user-supplied options. My question is: how do I bootstrap portage into /usr/local? Let's assume I've already installed python. /Ervin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling ALSA segments..
Sounds good. On 31 Mar 2003 16:25:22 + Peter Berkenbosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No I don't have any other modules at hand. And my system only has one module of 512Mb. I think i will go to my retailer and let him fix it. (new memory or proc or Motherboard). On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 17:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Yes, I think you have a problem if it shows up some as failing. Do you have modules that you can put in one at a time to find the bad one? Memtest86 gives the following message: Tst Pass Failing Good Bad 3 6 0001d82cb78 - 472.7 MB 20202020 60202020 Err-bits Count Chan 40 2 1 Does this mean that I have a serious problem??? On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 14:21, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Well, then it's memtest86 G! No use, since I only have one module ;) On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 12:55, brett holcomb wrote: You can also pull out all the memory modules except one and see if it segfaults. If so put another one in and see what happens. If it doesn't, try another one again until you find the culprit(s). On 28 Mar 2003 08:33:27 + -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nForce support
On Monday 31 March 2003 04:17 am, Chris van der Pennen wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 16:42, Adam Mercer wrote: Hi I'm going to be building a new system soon and I am in the process of deciding what to go for. Currently I'm been hearing good things about the nForce 2 chipset, specifically the Abit NF7. Has anyone had experience with this board or the nForce 2 chipset under Gentoo before. Hows driver support for example, the NF7 comes with onboard lan and sound, are these supported? Works fine for me. Onboard lan is supported by the nforce-net ebuild, in a similar fashion to the nvidia-kernel ebuild. Sound is in alsa, but you will need to use ~x86 to get support, until rc8 makes stable. (snd-intel8x0) Sensors doesnt work yet, but support is planned for 2.8.0, so unless you want to pull the latest one from cvs you'll have to wait. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Chris Chris is correct in his assessment though instead of emerging the nforce-net package, I would recommend a manual install of nvidias nforce drivers. (NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0248.tar.gz) available from nvidia's site. This package includes sound drivers. You will want to install these before that first reboot so you will have network support. See: http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_nforce_1.0-0248 The nv-net driver is on the 1.4-r3 live CD and will load automagicly. You will however need to boot the CD with the gentoo nonet option. I'm running the Leadtek K7NCR18D-pro here and except for some DMA problems and the lack of SPDIF support, I'm very happy. Another problem I've heard of is the fact that agpgart is a problem so you would likely have problems with AGP acceleration with anything other that an Nvidia graphics card. There are forums outthere that you might look at. One of the best is at: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=29 Hope this helps -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] how can i enable debug symbols
hi, kmail is crashing for me so i want to send a bugroprt. with stacktrace. how can i emerge kdepim with debug enabled? thanks, gabor -- That's life for you, said McDunn. Someone always waiting for someone who never comes home. Always someone loving something more than that thing loves them. And after awhile you want to destroy whatever that thing is, so it can't hurt you no more. -- R. Bradbury, The Fog Horn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] updating scrollkeeper-does not validate
Why do I keep getting this w/gnome updates? Updating Scrollkeeper OMF file [/usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf] does not validate against ScrollKeeper-OMF DTD: /usr/share/xml/scrollkeeper/dtds/scrollkeeper-omf.dtd Unable to register /usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf OMF file [/usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf] does not validate against ScrollKeeper-OMF DTD: /usr/share/xml/scrollkeeper/dtds/scrollkeeper-omf.dtd Unable to register /usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4 merged. el lodger - - Powered by GENTOO LINUX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell
Hi all, is there a way to get sudo to run a shell with the -s option as a login shell? I ask because when I give the command sudo -s and enter a password, I become root, but not with root's environment, so /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc, are not in the path. Thanks, William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell
that's what su is for Ric - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: [gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell Hi all, is there a way to get sudo to run a shell with the -s option as a login shell? I ask because when I give the command sudo -s and enter a password, I become root, but not with root's environment, so /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc, are not in the path. Thanks, William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nForce support
Chris is correct in his assessment though instead of emerging the nforce-net package, I would recommend a manual install of nvidias nforce drivers. (NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0248.tar.gz) available from nvidia's site. This package includes sound drivers. You will want to install these before that first reboot so you will have network support. See: http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_nforce_1.0-0248 Any reason why you recommend a manual install? The nv-net driver is on the 1.4-r3 live CD and will load automagicly. You will however need to boot the CD with the gentoo nonet option. Thats exactly what I needed to know, thanks. I'm running the Leadtek K7NCR18D-pro here and except for some DMA problems and the lack of SPDIF support, I'm very happy. Another problem I've heard of is the fact that agpgart is a problem so you would likely have problems with AGP acceleration with anything other that an Nvidia graphics card. There are forums outthere that you might look at. One of the best is at: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=29 Hope this helps Thanks, I'll check those out. Cheers Adam -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] openoffice-bin-1.1_beta not working
Hi, I emerged the openoffice-bin's latest version 3 days back and its not working It used to work before This is the error I get. If I try to execute it as root then it works. Is there anything special that I need to do to get this one working? Thanx Spundun --- bash-2.05b$ oowriter Gnome session manager detected - session management disabled Using settings from 1.0.1 Setup complete. Running openoffice.org... /usr/bin/oowriter: line 205: /home/spundun/.openoffice/1.0.1/soffice: No such file or directory /usr/bin/oowriter: line 205: exec: /home/spundun/.openoffice/1.0.1/soffice: cannot execute: No such file or directory bash-2.05b$ oo oocalc oofficeoomath oosetup oodraw ooimpress oopadmin oowriter bash-2.05b$ oosetup Gnome session manager detected - session management disabled Using settings from 1.0.1 Setup complete. Running openoffice.org... /usr/bin/oosetup: line 205: /home/spundun/.openoffice/1.0.1/soffice: No such file or directory /usr/bin/oosetup: line 205: exec: /home/spundun/.openoffice/1.0.1/soffice: cannot execute: No such file or directory bash-2.05b$ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-(
This has been discussed before, The fix is usually go do `opengl-update xfree` ..play the game.. and when done go `opengl-update nvidia` -- alex On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 03:18, Christian Herzyk wrote: Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:28, Bastux wrote: When I launch frozen bubble, this error occurs : [SDL Init] Segmentation fault What can I do? As root: opengl-update xfree As normal user: frozen-bubble When finished playing, as root: opengl-update nvidia Hi, I don't need to do this. I simply use 'artsdsp frozen-bubble' and it works fine. I have nvidia glx running so that cannot be the (only) reason for this segfault. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage on Solaris?
How far fetched is the idea getting portage onto Solaris? We need a system so the installed sources could be traced: who was compiling it, how he was doing it, what packeges are installed now and so on. A package manager is perfect for this purpose. Not too far fetched at all. Check out pkg-get on sunfreeware.com - it's quite handy :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Bash script help
Does anyone know how to check if a directory is empty? I tried the following: if [ -d /dir/to/remove -a ! -s /dir/to/remove ]; then echo Removing /dir/to/remove directory. rmdir /dir/to/remove else echo Directory /dir/to/remove is not empty. fi Even if the directory (in this example remove) is empty (has no other files or folders) the else statement runs, which means the directory does not get removed. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Bash script help
On Monday 31 March 2003 20:40, Jason Giangrande wrote: Does anyone know how to check if a directory is empty? I tried the following: if [ -d /dir/to/remove -a ! -s /dir/to/remove ]; then echo Removing /dir/to/remove directory. rmdir /dir/to/remove else echo Directory /dir/to/remove is not empty. fi Even if the directory (in this example remove) is empty (has no other files or folders) the else statement runs, which means the directory does not get removed. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. rm some_directory doesn't remove the dir unless its empty... Arnold -- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so... pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Bash script help
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:40:18PM -0500, Jason Giangrande wrote: Does anyone know how to check if a directory is empty? I tried the following: if [ -d /dir/to/remove -a ! -s /dir/to/remove ]; then Directories always have size 0. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mjinks$ mkdir foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mjinks$ ls -ld foo drwxr-xr-x2 mjinks users 48 Mar 31 12:37 foo Even if the directory (in this example remove) is empty (has no other files or folders) the else statement runs, which means the directory does not get removed. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. There's probably a better way, but why not just use rmdir? It won't remove a directory with anything in it. -- Michael Jinks, IB # Enterprise Networks Systems Administration # UofC Reader! Think not that technical information ought not be called speech; -- Anonymous, How to decrypt a DVD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
On Monday 31 March 2003 10:44 am, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote: env ALSA_CARDS='via82xx' emerge alsa-driver you will want to emerge alsa-utils too to unmute the card snip This worked for me too, I have a via82xx card, although not on a ASUS motherboard. Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
Hi Rick and all, The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. That means that if I do the following: sudo [command] where command is in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I get a message that says sudo: [command] not found I am using the /etc/sudoers file that comes with emerging sudo, with the line uncommented that allows users in the wheel group to run commands as root with their passwords, and the user is in the wheel group. What am I missing? William On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 12:43:25PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote: that's what su is for Ric - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: [gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell Hi all, is there a way to get sudo to run a shell with the -s option as a login shell? I ask because when I give the command sudo -s and enter a password, I become root, but not with root's environment, so /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc, are not in the path. Thanks, William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
sudo wasn't designed to do that. your original post indicated that you wanted sudo to execute a shell, which is what su does. your problem is that you are attempting to execute something that isn't in your path. since you aren't actually running the command as root (ie, there is no login context), sudo doesn't provide root's environment. you are running with an effective uid of root which is slightly different. put the appropriate dirs into your path and you should be fine. alternately, i seem to recall that some versions of su provide a switch like -c which allows you to specify a command. i don't remember if that spawns an appropriate environment (which is really what you are looking for) or if you could tag a - (which would inherit the correct environment vars, run the login scripts, etc). if i'm completely dazed and providing incorrect information, i'm sure someone will correct me. - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell) Hi Rick and all, The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. That means that if I do the following: sudo [command] where command is in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I get a message that says sudo: [command] not found I am using the /etc/sudoers file that comes with emerging sudo, with the line uncommented that allows users in the wheel group to run commands as root with their passwords, and the user is in the wheel group. What am I missing? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.1 failed
Forgive me if this is a known issue, but I'm a Gentoo newbie... On a system with a current sync of portage, I get the following error during an 'emerge php': checking whether to enable pcntl support... yes checking for fork... no configure: error: pcntl: fork() not supported by this platform !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.1 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 273, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed Is there a quick easy solution, or do I need to debug this myself? Thanks, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice-bin-1.1_beta not working
Spundun Bhatt said: Hi, I emerged the openoffice-bin's latest version 3 days back and its not working It used to work before This is the error I get. If I try to execute it as root then it works. Is there anything special that I need to do to get this one working? Here are the steps I took to get openoffice 1.1 beta to work. 1. emerge -C openoffice openoffice-bin 2. mv ~/.openoffice ~/.openoffice.old (as normal user) 3. mv ~/.sversionrc ~/.sversionrc.old (as normal user) 4. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge openoffice-bin 5. ooffice That should recreate the directories and all OO applications should run fine. Don't bother with running OO as root. HTH. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?
Stephen Boulet said: On Sunday 30 March 2003 08:12 am, Christian Aust wrote: Hi, I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering. Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs, crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards, I would not recommend it having had several problems with it myself. I lost opengl at one point and couldn't get it back no matter what I did. Having spoken to one of the devs I learnt that there is a good chance they will wait for the next release of xfree and nvidia drivers before marking these stable. It's a bold stance but quite well justified in my opinion. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo notrunning a shell as a login shell)
Also I believe it gets built with --disable-path and quite a few other security features, to help protect you from exploits:) Do sudo -V as root, and check the ebuild for the conf options. Please note that if you run commands outside the user path, you must execute the complete path, ie when I shutdown I do sudo /sbin/poweroff whereas cannot do sudo poweroff. Thats the way it's supposed to work:) On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:49:55 -0500 Ric Messier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sudo wasn't designed to do that. your original post indicated that you wanted sudo to execute a shell, which is what su does. your problem is that you are attempting to execute something that isn't in your path. since you aren't actually running the command as root (ie, there is no login context), sudo doesn't provide root's environment. you are running with an effective uid of root which is slightly different. put the appropriate dirs into your path and you should be fine. alternately, i seem to recall that some versions of su provide a switch like -c which allows you to specify a command. i don't remember if that spawns an appropriate environment (which is really what you are looking for) or if you could tag a - (which would inherit the correct environment vars, run the login scripts, etc). if i'm completely dazed and providing incorrect information, i'm sure someone will correct me. - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell) Hi Rick and all, The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. That means that if I do the following: sudo [command] where command is in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I get a message that says sudo: [command] not found I am using the /etc/sudoers file that comes with emerging sudo, with the line uncommented that allows users in the wheel group to run commands as root with their passwords, and the user is in the wheel group. What am I missing? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Chuck Brewer Registered Linux User #284015 Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] OpenMotif compile promblem
Hello! I have a problem with openMotif compiling. At some stage it reports an error: $LANG is set to unknown locale or smth like that -- i don't remember exactly. At the time i was compiling it, my $LANG was set to ru_RU.KOI8-R. So, i tried to set it to with 'export LANG=' and remerge. That did not help. There was the same error. I solved the problem with setting USE=-motif (this problem popped out during emerging of xscreensaver), but i still curious why it reported an error. So if anyone knows the reason, i'd appreciate help :). Thanx in advance. Dmitry. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage on Solaris?
begin quote On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:00:03 +0200 Ervin Németh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Nichols wrote: Not too far fetched at all. Check out pkg-get on sunfreeware.com - it's quite handy :) Thank you the info but I knew this tool already. We don't need the automatism of adding new packages, we need the info how was it configured and built. And as a side-effect it could also make easier to upgrade to a new version of the software. We could use simple text files or shell scripts. We feel qualified enogh to write our own rpm spec files or portage ebuild scripts. These have just too many nice features to ignore them. well if thats the case I dont think its that far-fetched. There might be some issues with how the base-system is installed (I've never worked on solaris so I dont know) and device nodes, but it shouldnt be overly hard.. otherways, have you looked at OpenPKG??That might also be something to look at, it was promising when I switched to Gentoo at least ;-) //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how can i enable debug symbols
begin quote On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:06:09 +0200 gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, kmail is crashing for me so i want to send a bugroprt. with stacktrace. how can i emerge kdepim with debug enabled? thanks, gabor -- add inherit debug at the top of the ebuild that installs kdepim. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] updating scrollkeeper-does not validate
begin quote On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:59:43 -0800 el lodger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do I keep getting this w/gnome updates? Updating Scrollkeeper OMF file [/usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf] does not validate against ScrollKeeper-OMF DTD: /usr/share/xml/scrollkeeper/dtds/scrollkeeper-omf.dtd Unable to register /usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf OMF file [/usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf] does not validate against ScrollKeeper-OMF DTD: /usr/share/xml/scrollkeeper/dtds/scrollkeeper-omf.dtd Unable to register /usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4 merged. You get it from old scrollkeeper documentation-files that dont follow the new, strict DTD for how it should be. if you check it is the package that owns /usr/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf that is the bad guy this is the old control-center, and the error/warning isn't really hampering. Since this package is on the way of being phased out I doubt this will be fixed unless somone provides a patch (thats clean and works) or the upstream releases a fixed package. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-(
Title: RE: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-( Hi All, This seems weird but try this. I installed Gentoo using glibc 2.3.1 with the nvidia drivers. Frozen bubble did not work. I upgraded Gnome and it decided to upgrade glibc to 2.3.2. After this update frozen bubble now works using the nvidia OpenGL. So my suggestion is, update your system and see if that works. Failing that you will have to do the suggestion below. -Original Message- From: Alex Combas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 6:12 a.m. To: gentoo-user Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-( This has been discussed before, The fix is usually go do `opengl-update xfree` ..play the game.. and when done go `opengl-update nvidia` -- alex On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 03:18, Christian Herzyk wrote: Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:28, Bastux wrote: When I launch frozen bubble, this error occurs : [SDL Init] Segmentation fault What can I do? As root: opengl-update xfree As normal user: frozen-bubble When finished playing, as root: opengl-update nvidia Hi, I don't need to do this. I simply use 'artsdsp frozen-bubble' and it works fine. I have nvidia glx running so that cannot be the (only) reason for this segfault. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kmail question
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 15:22, Ernie Schroder wrote: OK here's a wierd question: I now have links in kmail opening in Phoenix but, instead of the URL in the phoenix window being that of the current page, it shows the local location of the temp file created in .kde. As an example, I'll use Timothy Grant's web page which he ioncludes in his signature in posts to this list. www.craigelachie.org I would expect to see the above in the URL bar on phoenix, but, instead I see: file:///home/ernie/.kde3.1/share/apps/kfmexec/tmp/6651.0. Can anyone help me straighten this out? Note that this does not happen with all links. Often the first link will open with the correct URL displayed. As I go to links on that page, I will usually get to one that gives me the odd behaviour. From a page that loads like this, the browser back button will error saying the temp file location cannot be found. Hi Ernie, When you set the file association for text/html in KDE Control Centre to phoenix, edit the command to be: /usr/bin/phoenix %u Peter -- Gentoo-1.4.3.4 Unstable. KDE: 3.1.1 Qt: 3.1.2 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ 768MB. Kernel: 2.4.20-xfs-r2. GCC 3.2.2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ssh, how secure?
HI all, I have been using Linux since SuSE 5.2, so by now even a few of my internal organs are penguin shaped. As such, I have always used ssh to work remotely, using password protected private/public key stuff. Nothing special going on between the two. I was suggesting to my boss using something similar to tunnel an unusual database client connection to a /very/ remote server. Althogh he was up for giving the idea a quick test run, he keeps asking Exactly how secure is this? I was quite of the opinion that it *is*. But the question has to be, how secure is ssh? Anyone have any pointers? Tom Wesley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.1 failed
* Seth Zirin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [31-03-2003 16:59]: On a system with a current sync of portage, I get the following error during an 'emerge php': checking whether to enable pcntl support... yes checking for fork... no configure: error: pcntl: fork() not supported by this platform !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.1 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 273, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed Is there a quick easy solution, or do I need to debug this myself? Sure, there's an easy solution. It's called by some implementations of the Java. I solved it at home by using a simple USE=-java emerge dev-php/php Try it out, if you don't need java support in php. If you do need, check the archives.. it has been discussed a few weeks ago. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ UIN: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:36:36 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think /etc/sane.d/saned.conf is used for non-network also. I have an old Microtek that is attached directly to my Gentoo box and I have to put the entry in saned.conf or it doesn't work. Mine is a SCSI and I entered the vendor and model. I tried that and it didn't work. Some using microtek seem to have the same chipset and it gets id and vision or something. I'm trying a new approach. I'm messing with the windows cab looking for hints. I've got this far tho: $ scanimage -L device `artec_eplus48u:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Artec E+ 48U USB flatbed scanner That was fiddling with that specific conf file and giving it the vendor/product id. However it requires the windows firmware driver. I tried usbscan.sys but that hasn't worked. I'm not sure what file I should be looking for. I looked on my windows install cd and read the ini, etc. So I'm hoping I'll find something to work. If not I just scan in windows for the time being. It seems tho hp is very reluctant to give out info and they wouldn't give me the chipset info in email only via calling customer care which I'm not going to bother with. Partially as they point out they don't support non windows/mac OS. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- There is only one sound method of moral education. It is teaching people to think. - Everett Dean Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh, how secure?
As always, the first question to ask is what am i protecting against before you can evaluate how secure something is. Security is a process, New Jersey is a state. Having said that, http://www.openssh.com/security.html since I assume you are using OpenSSH as opposed to SSH Communications SSH. Ric - Original Message - From: Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh, how secure? HI all, I have been using Linux since SuSE 5.2, so by now even a few of my internal organs are penguin shaped. As such, I have always used ssh to work remotely, using password protected private/public key stuff. Nothing special going on between the two. I was suggesting to my boss using something similar to tunnel an unusual database client connection to a /very/ remote server. Althogh he was up for giving the idea a quick test run, he keeps asking Exactly how secure is this? I was quite of the opinion that it *is*. But the question has to be, how secure is ssh? Anyone have any pointers? Tom Wesley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
Well, it was worth a try. It made mine work! HP doesn't support much of anything! On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:36:36 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think /etc/sane.d/saned.conf is used for non-network also. I have an old Microtek that is attached directly to my Gentoo box and I have to put the entry in saned.conf or it doesn't work. Mine is a SCSI and I entered the vendor and model. I tried that and it didn't work. Some using microtek seem to have the same chipset and it gets id and vision or something. I'm trying a new approach. I'm messing with the windows cab looking for hints. I've got this far tho: $ scanimage -L device `artec_eplus48u:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Artec E+ 48U USB flatbed scanner That was fiddling with that specific conf file and giving it the vendor/product id. However it requires the windows firmware driver. I tried usbscan.sys but that hasn't worked. I'm not sure what file I should be looking for. I looked on my windows install cd and read the ini, etc. So I'm hoping I'll find something to work. If not I just scan in windows for the time being. It seems tho hp is very reluctant to give out info and they wouldn't give me the chipset info in email only via calling customer care which I'm not going to bother with. Partially as they point out they don't support non windows/mac OS. -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh, how secure?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 10:32:12PM +0100, Tom Wesley wrote: I was suggesting to my boss using something similar to tunnel an unusual database client connection to a /very/ remote server. Althogh he was up for giving the idea a quick test run, he keeps asking Exactly how secure is this? Fair enough... I was quite of the opinion that it *is*. But the question has to be, how secure is ssh? Anyone have any pointers? Well... I Am Not A Cryptographer, but my armchair understanding of these things roughs out to two questions: 0: How secure is the SSH protocol? 1: How secure is your SSH implementation (software design plus deployment details)? We don't know anything about your particular deployment (whose SSH package you use, what sort of keys, which protocol (version 1 has some problems, use version 2 if at all possible)) but it sounds like you know what you're doing. As for the protocol -- the short answer is it's a hell of a lot better than most other options. Then we wander off into the land of theoretical possibilities. There's no absolute certainty in the world of digital communications, there are only decreasing probabilities that your communications can be intercepted, spoofed, altered and so forth. I believe, based on the opinions of others more qualified to judge than I am, that SSH does in fact implement strong cryptography when properly deployed; so the chance that somebody could access your SSH-protected transmissions should be as small (or nearly as small) as their ability to grab your packets off the wire and then crack the encryption mechanism you're using. So it turns into a numbers game. Given a very faint chance that SSH could provide an attack vector, what are the implications for your company? How likely is it that somebody will be trying to intercept this? How costly would it be if they succeeded? A vanishingly small chance of intrusion can still be a killer if the likely outcome of an intrusion is massive loss of money or a life-and-death situation, but then the question changes from Is SSH a good idea? to Dare we allow any kind of remote access at all? And -- something I don't think people ask often enough -- how much easier would it be for an attacker to gain access to your data by some other means, such as a physical breakin or social engineering? Think of the locks on the doors of a house or a car: they don't absolutely prevent unauthorized entry, they just make it easier to come in some other way or, we hope, choose somebody else to go pick on. If I were trying to break into your database, it might very well be easier (read: cheaper) for me to fly to your remote location and take a cutting torch to the locks on the doors rather than devoting massive computational resources to intercepting and then cracking your SSH sessions. HTH, -mrj -- Michael Jinks, IB # Enterprise Networks Systems Administration # UofC Reader! Think not that technical information ought not be called speech; -- Anonymous, How to decrypt a DVD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. | sudo wasn't designed to do that. That is not generally true. I have at least two boxen (with distribution-provided sudo installs) where sudo does result in a PATH that includes /sbin and /usr/sbin even though those are not in my account's PATH on those boxen. On a debian box: :; printenv PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games :; sudo printenv PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin OTOH, I've verified that rh7.3 does not to PATH. I'd suggest gnetoo should follow debian's precedents more than rh's precedents -JimC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
From an OpenBSD system: $ printenv PATH=/home/kilroy/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/loca l/sbin:/usr/games:. $ sudo printenv PATH=/home/kilroy/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/loca l/sbin:/usr/games:. Debian may be an abberation and I'm not convinced there is a compelling reason to change. Ric - Original Message - From: James H. Cloos Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell) The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. | sudo wasn't designed to do that. That is not generally true. I have at least two boxen (with distribution-provided sudo installs) where sudo does result in a PATH that includes /sbin and /usr/sbin even though those are not in my account's PATH on those boxen. On a debian box: :; printenv PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games :; sudo printenv PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin OTOH, I've verified that rh7.3 does not to PATH. I'd suggest gnetoo should follow debian's precedents more than rh's precedents -JimC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.1 problems - missing mime types and protocols
Hello folks - I've been using Gentoo pretty happily for a few months now. Every now and then I check to see what has been added to the stable packages and update ones that are out of date. I was happy to see KDE 3.1.1 was out so I emerged kde-3.1.1. DISASTER! It left me with four different KDEs, 3.04, 3.0.5a, 3.1 and 3.1.1. 3.04 and 3.05a worked, but 3.1 and 3.1.1 did not. It seems as though a path is set up wrong, as it complains non-stop about not finding things: missing mime agents, not understanding protocols, and hollering that my version of kio was way too old. I wrote up details as bug #18065, and I figured that I would be the first of a long chain of complainers. BUT, it seems like I am the only one that had the problem. I have not seen anything on this list about it. I went back to KDE 3.1 by doing an unmerge on all of the 3.1.1 packages and then doing emerge kde3.1.1. It takes my about 24 hours to compile KDE, so I do not want to just try again. Does anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong? -Pete- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.1 problems - missing mime types and protocols
DISASTER! It left me with four different KDEs, 3.04, 3.0.5a, 3.1 and 3.1.1. 3.04 and 3.05a worked, but 3.1 and 3.1.1 did not. It seems as though a path is set up wrong, as it complains non-stop about not finding things: missing mime agents, not understanding protocols, and hollering that my version of kio was way too old. Had the very same problem when I moved from kde3.0 to 3.1. The system is trying to launch kde3.1 using kde3.0 path -- ie /usr/kde/3.0/bin was -before- /usr/kde/3.1/bin in the PATH. Try a printenv under kde3.0 and check. Tinkering with files in /etc/env.d/ worked perfectly in my case -- I modified the entries about kde prior to 3.1 so they would be read after the ones about 3.1. Does anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong? Looks like this, but I'm very new to Gentoo so it might as well be something else... -Pete- --K. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.1 problems - missing mime types andprotocols
Peter Buechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: DISASTER! It left me with four different KDEs, 3.04, 3.0.5a, 3.1 and 3.1.1. 3.04 and 3.05a worked, but 3.1 and 3.1.1 did not. It seems as though a path is set up wrong, as it complains non-stop about not finding things: missing mime agents, not understanding protocols, and hollering that my version of kio was way too old. I wrote up details as bug #18065, and I figured that I would be the first of a long chain of complainers. BUT, it seems like I am the only one that had the problem. I have not seen anything on this list about it. I went back to KDE 3.1 by doing an unmerge on all of the 3.1.1 packages and then doing emerge kde3.1.1. It takes my about 24 hours to compile KDE, so I do not want to just try again. Does anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong? Hi pete. I had the same problem. I checked out /etc/env.d/*kde* and found that the KDE 3.0.x files defined a KDEDIRS variable that the 3.1.x files didn't. Adding KDEDIRS=/usr/kde/3.1 to /etc/env.d/49kdepaths-3.1.1 saved my day. Just to confuse, there is a KDEDIR (without the trailing S) variable, and it's defined in all versions. /Rasmus Wiman http://rasmus.wiman.org http://dagbok.wiman.org I program my home computer Beam myself into the future -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mandrake's Galaxy theme..
Anyone have any luck getting Mandrake's new Galaxy theme working? (especially in kde) I've gotten the window decoration to work, but not the style. Or, does anyone knows where to find the source for the theme in *.tar.gz or *.bz2 files? Actually, I wish there was an .ebuild for it. Looks much better than Keramik... Thanks, Isaac Olson -- Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] april fools?
Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anyone got an artec e+ firmware file? or
a 2300c scanjet one?(I have a usbscan.sys file but that doesn't work so far) With it I *might* be able to get the 2300c hp scanjet working as it did id it when I fed it the vender/id code but it requires the firmware *.usb file to work. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Nothing that results from human progress is achieved with unanimous consent. And those who are enlightened before the others are condemned to pursue that light in spite of others. - Christopher Columbus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Hadn't thought of that but I hope it's a joke - just like LSB is a joke. Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds gone???
I hope it's April fools G! I notice in the newsletter that Gentoo will move to the RPM format due to the idiots at LSB. That raises some questions. 1. Is Gentoo essentially going to become another RPM distro where we are condemmed to using RPM to manage packages and fight all the dependencies? 2. Does this mean the neat database, etc. will be gone and we will have the same problem in Gentoo we have in RH, Caldera, etc. - Play the game of find the dependencies. 3. Will any of the ability to know what's installed and track it remain? If this is true this is a big minus for Gentoo. One reason for adopting Gentoo was to get away from RPM nonsense and the mess trying to maintain a system. Maybe back to RH or one of the other distros. I guess I could always run apt-get! -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Ebuilds gone???
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I notice in the newsletter that Gentoo will move to the RPM format due to the idiots at LSB. That raises some questions. [...] I guess I could always run apt-get! One date: April 1st But they posted it a little to early for people on the pacific coast :p Jehan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
well if it goes through debian or redhat might move back to my main machine. On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 11:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. clearly an april fools, but a good one nonetheless :) -- luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
man, i was already getting seriously worried... thank god for april fools! have a fun day, greg --On 31.03.2003 20:28 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they got us G. well if it goes through debian or redhat might move back to my main machine. On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2003 03:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. the first 30 seconds I was really shocked.. but then I saw the watch..3am 1.April everything will be fine ;o) Glück Auf, Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Got a bunch of us. But it shows how much we like ebuilds and how good they are. Before I figured it out I was having cold chills and spasms just thinking about RPM - aggghH! On Tuesday 01 April 2003 11:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. clearly an april fools, but a good one nonetheless :) -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
I nearly had a heart attack, until I saw the date. I love Gentoo so much (honestly). To think of all those changes, would be enough for me to crawl up in a fetal position and hope for death. If any GWN people are reading this, very well done :) -Jon On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 20:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Mike Atamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Alex Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. I thought I would have heard rumours about it on here if it had any truth to it... Happy April Fools' Day everyone Alex I'm glad I read all these April Fool letter before I read the newsletter. WHEW!! el lodger -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Alex Walker wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. Really, this was a very good joke :) But guys, if you think about that a little .. why the hell would gentoo change this brilliant ebuild system into an rpm nightmare for them and for us? give me just one serious reason and if it stands, you might have one wish ... anything ;))) btw, this was just the first today, i wonder what other sites, like slashdot will come up. i think it's a very tough race between the sites, that who is the most creative in the april 1 contest :) take care, tybalt -- András Tarsoly [EMAIL PROTECTED] xpander media Public key for [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) mQGiBD6HfLIRBADQ1g5avCKODrXDlBaY9TdRVsPrKJO4lk71Q0VitE0I2t46ZKDo EfLDqKcq81klMnTbNvqKJ75nJfQ+yVK1iM4z5mZtnRaF11opAuGn5AeM58wURFcV GkmF6wdoJAoDkxVq6R2LeCG8yCVPgeRLeitBICxdq+udEsC/Z/XwcOFXPwCg/n9w X1q+i/mxaBfsU5+7++wBpRkD/jlgFeKfTUndf++m64Xey4mgs8WbBTOQoCDaGX/H 8x/0vUK5gsBi/BPq0JtHJ8cWIDAdZaIm+p7Pk2+tiDyHvw/1cviBtLCHoCQ72kMp Fyt8//8XaVPfg71sSgeJIkhCS2ZCQreN+o7hy4OmlM/Lv+VaJfE5MgEy932X1Pq5 tR4lBAC1B3BKaIzPHYtOf8v1aa77DAA7gnblmwsWCnMCjG1M2JAxNeySXUJgIko1 s+HhWgS4vTR7at8JZUaZTKM7a4hqWqTJeMmpJWkcqjFHz5LjGanb4l7VN8Cxvwvu rOauJXbjfW85covTkrkSnBcWpMDAdSkNgf+HK/abVhUDeJ35o7QvVGFyc29seSBB bmRyYXMgKG5vIHBhc3N3b3JkKSA8dHliYWx0QGdyb292ZS5odT6IWQQTEQIAGQUC Pod8sgQLBwMCAxUCAwMWAgECHgECF4AACgkQlCzDaabBXBU9cACfYrqCK9SI6BBQ QHMTywAgt8iokIYAn13ZSnN1o2oU+BakebCMd+TN5l5guQENBD6HfLMQBACYxgof AduhIx4q0CrWO3lPffZwQi7gnST0spOGnNEx9REELDP2sgEzMZKlJcQNp3mwNliY +jBO9mZ4EO9mr0HueLj45KLW818gmPhXrCHET8953wrIYrMRt3hQJNkP6jqT5+jr o3A9QEMtNdfr7rYcaopDnzlJAruPcDMrbD91zwADBQP/V5kvjt1uDba4WvnFVKZT eg+EyKbLkxea+2HuRPuLrWojopdyiEWudFMUOZ35i656Yri8pyMYj0548D6Sl5DV 7BRuwAf2KTer4g3VbkgdvEMpzcJV2XfbiV6iturDx/sb7wUSO+wP5F4cZiqvAEnh NUvweGcyjIvEOg2o5hvW4AuIRgQYEQIABgUCPod8swAKCRCULMNppsFcFcKjAJ4v r0ZdaNK9IAO0VcnJXl4pgJEYcwCg4a5FRR8M46BVI7syTyhL99Zegvc= =TLZX -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Jon \GenKiller\ Gaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: I nearly had a heart attack, until I saw the date. I love Gentoo so much (honestly). To think of all those changes, would be enough for me to crawl up in a fetal position and hope for death. If any GWN people are reading this, very well done :) On the other hand, it would have been nice if the german police had really switched to Gentoo-ARM-based PDA:s. /Rasmus Wiman http://rasmus.wiman.org http://dagbok.wiman.org I program my home computer Beam myself into the future -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Monday 31 March 2003 10:27 pm, gregor battig wrote: man, i was already getting seriously worried... You're not the only one ;-) At first I said: WHAT!? RPM!? Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Samba
=Robert Claeson Samba on Gentoo obviously uses LDAP for authentication. Is there any way to stop if from doing that? export USE=-ldap emerge samba Or, alternatively, is there a good, short guide for setting up LDAP with pam authentication and Samba for Gentoo? You must read simple howto in samba source : samba-2.2.8/docs/htmldocs/Samba-LDAP-HOWTO.html If I go the LDAP route, I want to use it for most if not all authentication, be it Samba or shell. use google -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge -c
Just wanted to make sure that I have been removing apps correctly using this command? Example: Loaded gnucash, don't like it, so later I run emerge -c gnucash. Is this this the preferred way to successfully remove apps or is there another? Doc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds gone???
Xfree part of the base? RPM's this sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lack of USE features? This really sucks. I say to hell with LSB if it means getting rid of USE and making xfree part of the base. Sounds like were headed to dependancy hell. Robert On Monday 31 March 2003 05:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I notice in the newsletter that Gentoo will move to the RPM format due to the idiots at LSB. That raises some questions. 1. Is Gentoo essentially going to become another RPM distro where we are condemmed to using RPM to manage packages and fight all the dependencies? 2. Does this mean the neat database, etc. will be gone and we will have the same problem in Gentoo we have in RH, Caldera, etc. - Play the game of find the dependencies. 3. Will any of the ability to know what's installed and track it remain? If this is true this is a big minus for Gentoo. One reason for adopting Gentoo was to get away from RPM nonsense and the mess trying to maintain a system. Maybe back to RH or one of the other distros. I guess I could always run apt-get! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds gone???
It's a April Fool Joke - got some of us! Xfree part of the base? RPM's this sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lack of USE features? This really sucks. I say to hell with LSB if it means getting rid of USE and making xfree part of the base. Sounds like were headed to dependancy hell. Robert On Monday 31 March 2003 05:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I notice in the newsletter that Gentoo will move to the RPM format due to the idiots at LSB. That raises some questions. 1. Is Gentoo essentially going to become another RPM distro where we are condemmed to using RPM to manage packages and fight all the dependencies? 2. Does this mean the neat database, etc. will be gone and we will have the same problem in Gentoo we have in RH, Caldera, etc. - Play the game of find the dependencies. 3. Will any of the ability to know what's installed and track it remain? If this is true this is a big minus for Gentoo. One reason for adopting Gentoo was to get away from RPM nonsense and the mess trying to maintain a system. Maybe back to RH or one of the other distros. I guess I could always run apt-get! -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -c
Ahh ok -C then, thanks I just didn't want to be running that command and delete shared files or sumpin. Thx yall. Doc On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 21:12, Alec Berryman wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 21:01, ds wrote: Loaded gnucash, don't like it, so later I run emerge -c gnucash. Is this this the preferred way to successfully remove apps or is there another? Clean, or -c, removes outdated packages - that is, you have an older version of gnucash and extraneous files are removed after you have emerged a newer version. Clean is run by default after the actual merging by emerge. Unmerge, or -C, removes packages - like in your example. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Alex Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad you said that, I was about to go to bed and have nightmares of losing some of Gentoo's best features. I was completely taken in, but only for a couple of minutes... honest. I thought I would have heard rumours about it on here if it had any truth to it... Happy April Fools' Day everyone Alex I'm glad I read all these April Fool letter before I read the newsletter. WHEW!! el lodger Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.1 problems - missing mime types and protocols
Thanks, I'll try it - this coming weekend. I don't have time to wait for the compile before then! On Monday 31 March 2003 05:05 pm, K'fen wrote: DISASTER! It left me with four different KDEs, 3.04, 3.0.5a, 3.1 and 3.1.1. 3.04 and 3.05a worked, but 3.1 and 3.1.1 did not. It seems as though a path is set up wrong, as it complains non-stop about not finding things: missing mime agents, not understanding protocols, and hollering that my version of kio was way too old. Had the very same problem when I moved from kde3.0 to 3.1. The system is trying to launch kde3.1 using kde3.0 path -- ie /usr/kde/3.0/bin was -before- /usr/kde/3.1/bin in the PATH. Try a printenv under kde3.0 and check. Tinkering with files in /etc/env.d/ worked perfectly in my case -- I modified the entries about kde prior to 3.1 so they would be read after the ones about 3.1. Does anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong? Looks like this, but I'm very new to Gentoo so it might as well be something else... -Pete- --K. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.1 problems - missing mime types andprotocols
If it helps ( i know i do mine and love it) do an emerge -f appname, then give it a sec or two then open new terminal window and run emerge samefilename, cuts compile down HUGE :) On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 21:49, Peter Buechler wrote: Thanks, I'll try it - this coming weekend. I don't have time to wait for the compile before then! On Monday 31 March 2003 05:05 pm, K'fen wrote: DISASTER! It left me with four different KDEs, 3.04, 3.0.5a, 3.1 and 3.1.1. 3.04 and 3.05a worked, but 3.1 and 3.1.1 did not. It seems as though a path is set up wrong, as it complains non-stop about not finding things: missing mime agents, not understanding protocols, and hollering that my version of kio was way too old. Had the very same problem when I moved from kde3.0 to 3.1. The system is trying to launch kde3.1 using kde3.0 path -- ie /usr/kde/3.0/bin was -before- /usr/kde/3.1/bin in the PATH. Try a printenv under kde3.0 and check. Tinkering with files in /etc/env.d/ worked perfectly in my case -- I modified the entries about kde prior to 3.1 so they would be read after the ones about 3.1. Does anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong? Looks like this, but I'm very new to Gentoo so it might as well be something else... -Pete- --K. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mm-sources and modprobe
Hi - I'm using mm-sources-2.5.66-r1 (2.5.66-mm1) and am trying to get the nvidia kernel drivers working (nvidia-kernel-1.0.4191-r2). The nvidia-kernel compiles file, but I cannot modprobe: - melvin alec # modprobe nvidia modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: insmod /lib/modules/2.5.66-mm1/video/nvidia.o failed insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: insmod nvidia failed - So it seems my kernel modprobe is messed up. However, I seem to have everything correctly compiled in: - Loadable Module Support [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (EXPERIMENTAL) [*] Kernel module loader - I've recompiled modutils while booted into the mm-sources kernel, and have run make modules make modules_install. What have I missed? Oh, and I guess the other question - does anyone have the NVIDIA drivers running under mm-sources, or am I wasting my time? Thanks. -- Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key DFB366F2 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] mm-sources and modprobe
I had trouble getting devfs working with the mm-sources kernel On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 13:55, Alec Berryman wrote: Hi - I'm using mm-sources-2.5.66-r1 (2.5.66-mm1) and am trying to get the nvidia kernel drivers working (nvidia-kernel-1.0.4191-r2). The nvidia-kernel compiles file, but I cannot modprobe: - melvin alec # modprobe nvidia modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: insmod /lib/modules/2.5.66-mm1/video/nvidia.o failed insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented insmod: insmod nvidia failed - So it seems my kernel modprobe is messed up. However, I seem to have everything correctly compiled in: - Loadable Module Support [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (EXPERIMENTAL) [*] Kernel module loader - I've recompiled modutils while booted into the mm-sources kernel, and have run make modules make modules_install. What have I missed? Oh, and I guess the other question - does anyone have the NVIDIA drivers running under mm-sources, or am I wasting my time? Thanks. -- Mark Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cytek Pty Ltd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Yes, but when you are suffering from lack of sleep G. On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
Yeah, you need a machete to cut through the sarcasm. But then again I read the posts here before I read the newsletter, so I already had some idea that it was a joke before I read it. Jason On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 23:07, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Yes, but when you are suffering from lack of sleep G. On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:14:27PM -0800, el lodger wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:51:34 +0100 Have they been embellishing it or something? I fail to see how anyone could read it and not instantly know that it is a joke. Some of the text is hysterical! Case in point: Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
How do I get it to install it after I unmask it in keywords and not have it fetch the earlier stable version? I'd like to use this newer one instead of the older. Only reason I can see why it was masked(in the changelog) was that it required xft 2x which I have installed. In my world file I did set it as an =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 but that didn't help. I also found with things I had set to = it also wanted to downgrade them on next rsync and -puD world. So I reset them to = and that seems to of stopped it. I'm wondering if the -U would make any diffrence if I have =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 in world. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] april fools?
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 19:19, Mike Atamas wrote: Is the GWN some sick twisted april fools joke? Are we really moving to rpms and if so who is smoking the crack. If you want rpms use redhat. Slashdot has picked it up now (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/0234215). Good job, Kurt! -- Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key DFB366F2 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Question on using selectwm
There are a bunch of apps I like to launch at startup many of thease will work in various window managers(wm dock apps... such as wmitime). But some wont like bbpager. I have openbox, xfce, and icewm installed. If I'm using selectwm to choose my window manager in .xinitrc is there some way that I can get it to load various progs when it starts a specific one? ie load bbpager for only openbox but all the other dock apps for the other 2 window managers? -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend. - Albert Camus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question on using selectwm
If I'm using selectwm to choose my window manager in .xinitrc is there some way that I can get it to load various progs when it starts a specific one? ie load bbpager for only openbox but all the other dock apps for the other 2 window managers? I would suggest writing a script for each wm that needs other apps started with it. For example, with openbox it might look something like this: #!/bin/sh bbpager exec `which openbox` Then just tell selectwm to start the script, instead of the window manager. -- Josh - Joshua J. Berry I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. -- /usr/games/fortune PGP Key: http://deneb.condordes.net/node/16/view NOTE: Please do not submit this email address to any mailing lists or websites without prior permission. Thank you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] New Nvidia Drivers (1.0.4349)
Hello, The following were released yesterday on the testing tree. Can I request that if you try them that you post your troubles and successes to the list? * media-video/nvidia-glx Latest version available: 1.0.4349 * media-video/nvidia-kernel Latest version available: 1.0.4349 Many thanks -- Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage on Solaris?
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 22:53 schrieb ext Spider: otherways, have you looked at OpenPKG??That might also be something to look at, it was promising when I switched to Gentoo at least ;-) I also like the idea of having a source based equivalent to OpenPKG, which could be used on any Unix platform. Let's call it OpenPortage :-). I thought about this a few days ago and I think there are some things to consider: By now, portage is bound to linux, so the different architectures used in the ebuild are named by the processor (-family) they run on. It would have been better to use the well-known processor-vendor-os triplet. On Gentoo, portage is used to build the entire system from scratch, but if you'd use it on solaris, you allready have a base system. So there have to be dependancy (and other) exceptions in the ebuilds for other OSes than Gentoo. Installation directories are currently not configurable in portage, they're hardcoded in the ebuilds :-( What about init scripts? You may have to provide them per OS (don't know how this is solved in OpenPKG). Just my EUR 0.02... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soundkonfiguration via-82xx on Asus A7V8x
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 13:10 schrieb Felix Kurth: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmmm, strange because i have the same board and with this modul modprobe will not do it. With the alsa-driver it´s ok. Don´t know why! your kernel is =2.4.21-pre3 as i said ?!? see http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.21.log on line 1139 Your previous answer was the solution. A modprobe via-82xx doesn´t solve all dependencies, there was sns-pcm-oss missing. Kernelversion doesn´t seem to be a necessary point. Thanks Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Nvidia Drivers (1.0.4349)
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 21:39, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: Hello, The following were released yesterday on the testing tree. Can I request that if you try them that you post your troubles and successes to the list? * media-video/nvidia-glx Latest version available: 1.0.4349 * media-video/nvidia-kernel Latest version available: 1.0.4349 Many thanks lol.. yeah i guess you could say they are working fine for me.. after all i didnt even notice that I was running to new nvidia drivers until I read your post. I guess they must have emerged yesterday sometime. Unfortunatly I dont have any 3d games to test them with at the moment. I will emerge ut-2003demo and tuxracer tonight and post the results tomorrow. -- alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frozen-bubble error... :-(
Alex Combas wrote: This has been discussed before, The fix is usually go do `opengl-update xfree` ..play the game.. and when done go `opengl-update nvidia` -- alex That is not totally true. It can be hunted down to 2 different problems. One is the nvidia thing. Though it works for some using the nvidia opengl, but it would not be the first time these drivers have weird problems (2 nearly identical systems with exactly the same grafix and same drivers and kernel - one worked with 3d acceleration one didn't). The second is a problem connected with the SDL software. In lots of cases it helps to use artsdsp to start the program. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
