Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update
- Original Message - From: Guido Seifert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sami Salonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 11:29:51PM +0300, Sami Salonen wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Gentoo on my computer and have been a very happy user ever since, except... Today I finally had time to start configuring a firewall - I have an PPPoE connection and it's been working ok. I recompiled the kernel (enabled network packet filtering and stuff) but after installing the new kernel and rebooting the kernel can not load 3c59x any more. modprobe 3c59x says: /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved Any ideas what's gone wrong? Did you change from a SMP kernel to a non-SMP kernel or vice versa? In that case 'make dep, make clean, ' is not enough. You need a 'make mrproper'. Failing to do this results in such error messages. No, I didn't change - I also ran 'make mrproper' in the first place. However, it seems that I found the problem - I had screwed up somehow with lilo (I guess I forgot to run /sbin/lilo after replacing the kernel) and after doing cd /usr/src/linux cp .config ~/ make mrproper cp ~/.config . make menuconfig make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-new [adding a new section to /etc/lilo.conf] /sbin/lilo everything was fine (I'm newbie when it comes to compiling a new kernel - not sure whether the procedure described above is what's exactly needed). Thanks anyway, -- Sami -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compiling new kernels
When I compile new kernels I do cat /proc/config .config in the kernel root directory (for instance linux-2.4.22) And then the rest of the work make dep bzImage modules modules_install cp bzImage-location /boot mv /boot/bzImage a proper name for instance kernel-2.4.22) And then I use this name for an entrance in lilo.conf (no initrd required) Søndag den 12. oktober 2003 05:51 skrev a park: when i emerge a new kernel to compile, does the /etc/kernel/default-config get replaced? when i genkernel --config does the /etc/kernel/default-config get overwritten? does genkernel make use of make.conf when compiling kernels? when does the /usr/src/linux/.config get written to? i'm currently using the gentoo gaming-source, because my nforce2 board was having problems with gentoo-source. i just found out that the kernel did not have usb printing enabled, so i'm interested in compiling a different kernel possibly 2.4.22 (any thoughts on this and nforce2 mboard?) i want to preserve my config files for each of the kernels that i compile, just in case i have to go back and recompile it... any suggestions... andrew _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Venlig hilsen / Greetings from Claus L. Wilson, Linux mdk91 Sdr. Boulevard 226, st.tv 5000 Odense C tlf. 66191050 / mob. 61665543 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Newbie New Install Problems
Hi there, I've just installed Gentoo on my laptop, following the install instructions from the website. However, I've got a few problems that I'm not sure what to do about (this is the first time I've done anything this complicated -- used redhat 9 before). Firstly, in my grub.conf I have vga=791 on the end of the kernel line, as I have in RH, but it doesn't seem to do anything at all. Secondly, when I log on (this doesn't happen if I log on as root), I get a long list of lines like: modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/cdwriter modprobe: Can't locate module * which is needed for /dev/scsi/* etc etc etc I can't find this in /var/log anywhere, so I can't reproduce the whole list -- at least half of it scrolls off the top of the screen before I would have a chance to type it all out. I get a similar set of messages when I log out again. Thirdly, when I boot up, as soon as the kernel starts, I get the following: kernel (hd0,2)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda6 vga=791 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x131b7d] You passed an undefined mode number. Press RETURN to see video modes available, SPACE to continue or wait 30 secs Video adapter: VESA VGA Mode:COLSxROWS: 0 0F00 80x25 .. .. 6 0F07 80x60 Enter mode number of 'scan' Finally, I get the following before the logon process. Loading module e100 Failed to load e100 [snip] * Setting system clock to hardware clock [UTC]... modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc * Configuring kernel parameters... [ ok ] [snip] * Bringing eth0 up...[ ok ] (I have done an emerge e100). The network works anyway. Can anyone suggest what I might have done wrong? I apologise for the random order of all this. Many thanks in advance, Al P.S. If it helps at all, I did a stage 1 install and the kernel configuration is included below: # # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_LOLAT is not set # CONFIG_LOLAT_SYSCTL is not set CONFIG_M386=y # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX31 is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPPRO31 is not set # CONFIG_M68631 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII31 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM431 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK6231 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK731 is not set # CONFIG_MXP31 is not set # CONFIG_MMP31 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG is not set # CONFIG_X86_XADD is not set CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=4 CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM is not set CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y # CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK is not set # CONFIG_X86_MCE is not set CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m CONFIG_I8K=m # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_1GB=y # CONFIG_2GB is not set # CONFIG_3GB is not set # CONFIG_05GB is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set # # General setup # CONFIG_HZ=200 CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set # # PCI Hotplug Support # # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_COMPAQ is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_COMPAQ_NVRAM is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y # CONFIG_SYSTRACE is not set CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND=y CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y # # ACPI Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
Re: [gentoo-user] out of the blue, sound problems
Reinstalled ALSA, and now everything's good :). On 21:58 Sun 12 Oct , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Did they get muted? Try running alsamixer and see what you get. On Sunday 12 October 2003 19:57, you wrote: Yeah, everything's unmuted. It all looks good, but nothing's coming out of the speakers: starbaby (~) $ aplay space.wav Playing WAVE 'space.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono Can't here it. Emerged the xmmx ALSA module, switched to it, no go. I'm really stumped. On 23:47 Sun 12 Oct , Patrick B?rjesson wrote: Sorry for replying to my own post, but before you try out OSS-emulation you might want to check so that the mixer aren't set to mute... Emerge aumix and check the settings before doing anything else... :( Followed the Gentoo ALSA Guide; now there's no sound. Did you try ALSA's OSS-emulation? That's what I have configured on my system since some programs don't support ALSA yet. The packages related to ALSA that are installed on my system (according to qpkg) is the following: media-libs/alsa-lib media-libs/alsa-oss media-sound/alsa-driver The modules I autoload on startup are these: snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-oss Patrick B?rjesson -- Public key id: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at search.keyserver.net[:11371] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Barry Marler Plant Genome Mapping Laboratory University of Georgia Room 229, Center for Applied Genetic Technologies 111 Riverbend Rd. Athens, GA 30602 706.583.0164 [office] 706.583.0160 [fax] http://www.plantgenome.uga.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
I am in Saudi Arabia and I can't login to MSN by Gaim like you The problem is from Gaim because I can login with Kmess The message error is : Error reading from server Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I can't also login with Gaim here in Belgium On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:11, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Did anyone able to login MSN by Gaim in the past 4 days ? -- http://www.4-SMS.Com http://eShop.4-SMS.Com http://Mozilla.4-SMS.Com -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] COUNTER file
After upgrading to gnome 2.4 now everytime I emerge any program I got at the end : ['gnome-base/gnome-applets', '2.2.2', 'r0'] ['gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.2.2', 'gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.4.0'] !!! COUNTER file is missing for gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.2.2 in /var/db. !!! Please run /usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.pl or remerge the package. IF I run /usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.pl I got : Grabbing db contents... Grabbing mtimes... fix-db: fatal: insufficient data for app-dicts/dictd-dicts-1.0 Remove this package's directory from /var/db/pkg to fix this, then start this script again. If everything worked correctly, you must remerge app-dicts/dictd-dicts-1.0 to not mess up any dependencies. Any Help ? (nothing in google/gentoo.org) -- http://www.4-SMS.Com http://eShop.4-SMS.Com http://Mozilla.4-SMS.Com -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] COUNTER file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:49, SMS WebMaster wrote: After upgrading to gnome 2.4 now everytime I emerge any program I got at the end : ['gnome-base/gnome-applets', '2.2.2', 'r0'] ['gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.2.2', 'gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.4.0'] !!! COUNTER file is missing for gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.2.2 in /var/db. !!! Please run /usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.pl or remerge the package. IF I run /usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.pl I got : Grabbing db contents... Grabbing mtimes... fix-db: fatal: insufficient data for app-dicts/dictd-dicts-1.0 Remove this package's directory from /var/db/pkg to fix this, then start this script again. If everything worked correctly, you must remerge app-dicts/dictd-dicts-1.0 to not mess up any dependencies. Any Help ? (nothing in google/gentoo.org) Remove the directory, and gnome-applets-2.2.2, and any others that complain in the same way later. If you have them installed, install them again afterwards, otherwise your done. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/imffInuLMrk7bIwRAs+oAJ0TLpk76fyqpvMVOnSLJnZsZm6LJgCffCFs XNwKU6VSxg3NjWY6BkOMRMA= =Qd6I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem on booting after installation.
Hi Barry # mount -t ext2 (ext3 or dos) /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems I also tried # mount /mnt/floppy with no result You must specify the correct fs type. For a Windows floppy: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy I found out the trick. I could not read the bookdisk disregarding whichever command issued such as; # mount /mnt/floppy # mount -t vfat/ext2/ext3 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy etc. I can mount and read a floppy prepared on another Linux box # mount /mnt/floppy or # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy My /etc/fstab /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto, owner, kudzu (I have this line proc /proc proc default whether I need it) However '/boot/grub/grub.conf' disappears, both the folder 'grub' and 'grub.conf' # updatedb # locate grub.conf /usr/share/doc/grub-0.93.20030118/grub.conf.sample.gz Could not find it ! There is nothing under /boot/ Gentoo doesn't mount /boot by default. You have to mount it (as root). Noted with thanks 3) I could not connect broadband My /etc/conf.d/net iface_eth1=dhcp (only one line. only one ethernet card) # adsl-setup (tried as ROOT and Super ROOT) - bash: adsl-setup: command not found # neat - bash: neat: command not found How did you boot it? Also, if you have only 1 nic, you device is eth0. Problem solved. I re-do following procedures # emerge -k xfsprogs # rc-update add net.eth0 default # ln -s net.eth0 net.ethx # rc-update add net.ethx default The denotation of my NIC is eth1. Because previously I have 2 NICs on this box and I removed eth0 Now 'adsl-start' can connect broadband - snip - a) What are following lines used for starbaby (~) $ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /boot starbaby (~) $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf sudo allows certain users to execute certain root commands (emerge app-admin/sudo, then man sudo) . I just mounted /boot (not mounted by default, as per above), and read grub.conf to stdout Why you use (hd1,0) not (hd0,0) ? Because my /boot is on the 1st partition of my 2nd hd. Grub uses formal computer science parlance, i.e., the first device (or whatever) is 0, the 2nd, 1, etc. Noted with thanks I still have following problem unsolved. 1) At time of installation Installing additional hardware-specific ebuilds # emerge emuk10k1 (Creative Sound Blaster Live!/Audigy support) It took more 2 hours without completion. The screen was still moving. Finally I rebooted the PC by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del 2) At time of installation emerge -k xfree Problem and solution same as above 3) After reboot the PC # emerge -k kde Problem and solution same as above. # which kde could not find it All download times were very short and the installation time was too long. The screen continued moving 'writing file/fonts, deleting file/fonts, etc.' 4) The bootdisk can't boot automatically. It prompted grub 'boot + ENTER' can't help. I have no idea how to proceed further. B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
Looks like Microsoft is set to break third party clients real soon anyhows http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:29, SMS WebMaster wrote: I am in Saudi Arabia and I can't login to MSN by Gaim like you The problem is from Gaim because I can login with Kmess The message error is : Error reading from server Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I can't also login with Gaim here in Belgium On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:11, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Did anyone able to login MSN by Gaim in the past 4 days ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
No no this problem from Gaim 0.70 check http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=944838forum_id=665 drewbian wrote: Looks like Microsoft is set to break third party clients real soon anyhows http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:29, SMS WebMaster wrote: I am in Saudi Arabia and I can't login to MSN by Gaim like you The problem is from Gaim because I can login with Kmess The message error is : Error reading from server Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I can't also login with Gaim here in Belgium On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:11, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Did anyone able to login MSN by Gaim in the past 4 days ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list . -- http://www.4-SMS.Com http://eShop.4-SMS.Com http://Mozilla.4-SMS.Com -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
Hello Patrick, Monday, October 13, 2003, 11:25:57 AM, you wrote: PM Well i'm asking indeed my friends to use IRC. PM On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 11:16, drewbian wrote: Looks like Microsoft is set to break third party clients real soon anyhows http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:29, SMS WebMaster wrote: I am in Saudi Arabia and I can't login to MSN by Gaim like you The problem is from Gaim because I can login with Kmess The message error is : Error reading from server Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I can't also login with Gaim here in Belgium On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:11, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Did anyone able to login MSN by Gaim in the past 4 days ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list yeah ... irc is the best desigion. icq is not bad too , but still ... ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
Stroller wrote: On 11 Oct 2003, at 9:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2003 05:28 pm, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Eveytime I hear about prelink I hear about KDE Does this mean prelink will not work with GNOME ? I am a GNOME user and I think I will try to prelinking my system but I am afraid it will break my system There used to be tremendous performance gains by running prelink across ones KDE installation... but since KDE 3.1.x... the programming efforts of the KDE team really shines and prelinking isn't all that necessary any more. Gaaa! I just emerged KDE 3.1.4 the other day it's sill slow as sin on my little PII 400 laptop with only 64meg..! I'd really like it to be faster, as it's my favorite Linux environment - none of the screenshots I've seen of lightweight WMs appeal to me. I'm recompiling glibc with prelinking support at the moment - I think I'm then likely to have to recompile all my libraries before prelink will work. Is it worth the effort..? I think I've got to try, now I've started. Stroller. What do you expect form your machine? The CPU is by now quite old, but should be able to manage KDE quite fine though. The problem is your RAM. With 64MB your RAM will probably be filled with the usual linux stuff and KDE. I guess even without starting anything else your laptop will have to start swapping things out. I tried to run Knoppix (OK I know it need more RAM) on a PC quite similar to your setup and it was REALLY slow (around 5 minutes startup time) Adding 128MB of RAM helped a lot though. I recommend you do the same if you want to continue using KDE. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
Yes.. Linux loves as much memeroy as you can throw at it.. I went from 64Megs to 512Megs and their was a night and day difference. KDE alone is a huge resource hog. Add anything else and you'll be using your swap to its full potential and this is where things get really slow. Adding more memory is worth the cost. You will see..trust what the list is telling you here. JBanks --- Christian Herzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller wrote: On 11 Oct 2003, at 9:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2003 05:28 pm, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Eveytime I hear about prelink I hear about KDE Does this mean prelink will not work with GNOME ? I am a GNOME user and I think I will try to prelinking my system but I am afraid it will break my system There used to be tremendous performance gains by running prelink across ones KDE installation... but since KDE 3.1.x... the programming efforts of the KDE team really shines and prelinking isn't all that necessary any more. Gaaa! I just emerged KDE 3.1.4 the other day it's sill slow as sin on my little PII 400 laptop with only 64meg..! I'd really like it to be faster, as it's my favorite Linux environment - none of the screenshots I've seen of lightweight WMs appeal to me. I'm recompiling glibc with prelinking support at the moment - I think I'm then likely to have to recompile all my libraries before prelink will work. Is it worth the effort..? I think I've got to try, now I've started. Stroller. What do you expect form your machine? The CPU is by now quite old, but should be able to manage KDE quite fine though. The problem is your RAM. With 64MB your RAM will probably be filled with the usual linux stuff and KDE. I guess even without starting anything else your laptop will have to start swapping things out. I tried to run Knoppix (OK I know it need more RAM) on a PC quite similar to your setup and it was REALLY slow (around 5 minutes startup time) Adding 128MB of RAM helped a lot though. I recommend you do the same if you want to continue using KDE. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
JB Yes.. Linux loves as much memeroy as you can throw at it.. I went from 64Megs to 512Megs and their JB was a night and day difference. KDE alone is a huge resource hog. Add anything else and you'll be JB using your swap to its full potential and this is where things get really slow. Adding more memory JB is worth the cost. You will see..trust what the list is telling you here. JB JBanks JB --- Christian Herzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller wrote: On 11 Oct 2003, at 9:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2003 05:28 pm, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Eveytime I hear about prelink I hear about KDE Does this mean prelink will not work with GNOME ? I am a GNOME user and I think I will try to prelinking my system but I am afraid it will break my system There used to be tremendous performance gains by running prelink across ones KDE installation... but since KDE 3.1.x... the programming efforts of the KDE team really shines and prelinking isn't all that necessary any more. Gaaa! I just emerged KDE 3.1.4 the other day it's sill slow as sin on my little PII 400 laptop with only 64meg..! I'd really like it to be faster, as it's my favorite Linux environment - none of the screenshots I've seen of lightweight WMs appeal to me. I'm recompiling glibc with prelinking support at the moment - I think I'm then likely to have to recompile all my libraries before prelink will work. Is it worth the effort..? I think I've got to try, now I've started. Stroller. What do you expect form your machine? The CPU is by now quite old, but should be able to manage KDE quite fine though. The problem is your RAM. With 64MB your RAM will probably be filled with the usual linux stuff and KDE. I guess even without starting anything else your laptop will have to start swapping things out. I tried to run Knoppix (OK I know it need more RAM) on a PC quite similar to your setup and it was REALLY slow (around 5 minutes startup time) Adding 128MB of RAM helped a lot though. I recommend you do the same if you want to continue using KDE. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list JB __ JB Do you Yahoo!? JB The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search JB http://shopping.yahoo.com JB -- JB [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Try FLUXBOX ... much faster then KDE or GNOME -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
Hello, Right now I'm using XFree 4.3.0r3, KDE 3.1.4 and KDM in /etc/rc.conf Does this mean that XFree is my window manger and KDE is an extension of XFree? Since I have plenty of space on my HD I would like to start experimenting with other WM's/Desktops. My question is: What specifically is the difference between WindowMangers and Desktops? When I go here, http://xwinman.org/index.html they're listed as two separate entities. I've always thought of these as one in the same. The reason that I'm asking this is because I would like to load XFce, Gnome, desktops and have the abliity to choose which desktop that I use when I get my LOGIN promtp with KDM. If I load XFce and Gnome will these automatically show up listed in KDM as a choose to login to? Or do I need to do anything to /etc/rc.conf Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
On Monday 13 October 2003 12:26, Joshua Banks wrote: My question is: What specifically is the difference between WindowMangers and Desktops? When I go here, http://xwinman.org/index.html they're listed as two separate entities. I've always thought of these as one in the same. Not-too-specific answer: Desktop managers are more Windoze-like, meaning that they tend to be more complete and control many parts of the graphic enviroment. A desktop environment has its own window manager. Furthermore, DEs often provide a lot of complementary software and utilities, whereas window managers are more bare bone, ie, they only give you the basic tools to work (panel, desktop and little more). Some say that WMs give you more freedom, but that's a matter of personal taste. The reason that I'm asking this is because I would like to load XFce, Gnome, desktops and have the abliity to choose which desktop that I use when I get my LOGIN promtp with KDM. If I load XFce and Gnome will these automatically show up listed in KDM as a choose to login to? Or do I need to do anything to /etc/rc.conf I don't think it will work that way. Maybe you can emerge selectwm. The page for the project is: http://ordiluc.net/selectwm look there before trying it. I've used it and it works fine: I had gnome, kde, icewm, windowmaker, fvwm2 and blackbox at the same time (wasting a lot of disk space, though :). NOTE: I don't use graphical login (KDM, GDM and similar), so I don't know if selectwm works fine in that situation. Bye -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I load XFce and Gnome will these automatically show up listed in KDM as a choose to login to? Yes. -- Hilsen Harald. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
On 13 Oct 2003, at 10:43 am, Christian Herzyk wrote: Stroller wrote: on 11 Oct 2003, at 9:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: There used to be tremendous performance gains by running prelink across ones KDE installation... but since KDE 3.1.x... the programming efforts of the KDE team really shines and prelinking isn't all that necessary any more. Gaaa! I just emerged KDE 3.1.4 the other day it's sill slow as sin on my little PII 400 laptop with only 64meg..! I'd really like it to be faster, as it's my favorite Linux environment - none of the screenshots I've seen of lightweight WMs appeal to me. I'm recompiling glibc with prelinking support at the moment - I think I'm then likely to have to recompile all my libraries before prelink will work. Is it worth the effort..? I think I've got to try, now I've started. Stroller. What do you expect form your machine? The CPU is by now quite old, but should be able to manage KDE quite fine though. The problem is your RAM. With 64MB your RAM will probably be filled with the usual linux stuff and KDE. I guess even without starting anything else your laptop will have to start swapping things out. I tried to run Knoppix (OK I know it need more RAM) on a PC quite similar to your setup and it was REALLY slow (around 5 minutes startup time) Adding 128MB of RAM helped a lot though. I recommend you do the same if you want to continue using KDE. Perhaps you're right that I have unreasonable expectations of this machine - I've never had a machine with so little memory before (or at least, not since I upgraded from my first Pentium 150 which had 32meg). My expectations were that, as a Pentium II it should be adequate that KDE should just work - right now it's unusable. Unfortunately the cost of memory for these little Vaios is quite prohibitive - after about 45 minutes Googling I've managed to find a UK supplier - he wants £120 for an additional 64meg (the maximum this machine will take). I'll have to ponder further whether that's a good investment. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
Thus spake Stroller: Unfortunately the cost of memory for these little Vaios is quite prohibitive - after about 45 minutes Googling I've managed to find a UK supplier - he wants £120 for an additional 64meg (the maximum this machine will take). It does of course depend on which Vaio you've got, but I've just upgraded my R600 from 128MB to 384MB. Bought the memory for 75 quid from www.crucial.com/uk 128MB was 35 quid for either this laptop or my old one (Z600) Just thought there might be a chance it'd be cheaper than wherever you tried. Hope that helps, Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] fluxbox background troubles
I was using fluxbox-0.1.14-r2 for ages and had no desktop background troubles. I finally upgraded commonbox-utils to 0.5 and it borked the works. It looks like commonbox-utils-0.5 no longer uses bsetbg, but something called fbsetbg. This is fine, but everytime I try to set the background I get: /usr/bin/fbsetbg -C ./foo.jpg Something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. Run 'Esetroot $center ./foo.jpg' from an xterm to find out what. Ok. Done, and here is the result: /usr/bin/Esetroot -center ./foo.jpg /usr/bin/Esetroot: Unable to load image file ./foo.jpg. When I downgrade commonbox-utils, all works again just as it should. Any ideas? -- :wq! Matthew Daubenspeck http://www.oddprocess.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:13:00 +0300 Sami Salonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Guido Seifert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sami Salonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 11:29:51PM +0300, Sami Salonen wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Gentoo on my computer and have been a very happy user ever since, except... Today I finally had time to start configuring a firewall - I have an PPPoE connection and it's been working ok. I recompiled the kernel (enabled network packet filtering and stuff) but after installing the new kernel and rebooting the kernel can not load 3c59x any more. cd /usr/src/linux cp .config ~/ make mrproper cp ~/.config . make menuconfig make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-new [adding a new section to /etc/lilo.conf] /sbin/lilo I can't comment on your module loading problem, but your kernel build / lilo update procedure is correct. My only thought. Wipe out or move aside /lib/modules/kernelname and try the procedure again. Shouldn't be necessary, but I had some problems with modules in the early days of 2.4.x, and this helped. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie New Install Problems
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:54:30 +0100 A. S. Budden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I've just installed Gentoo on my laptop, following the install instructions from the website. However, I've got a few problems that I'm not sure what to do about (this is the first time I've done anything this complicated -- used redhat 9 before). Firstly, in my grub.conf I have vga=791 on the end of the kernel line, as I have in RH, but it doesn't seem to do anything at all. Secondly, when I log on (this doesn't happen if I log on as root), I get a long list of lines like: modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/cdwriter modprobe: Can't locate module * which is needed for /dev/scsi/* etc etc etc I can't find this in /var/log anywhere, so I can't reproduce the whole list -- at least half of it scrolls off the top of the screen before I would have a chance to type it all out. I get a similar set of messages when I log out again. Thirdly, when I boot up, as soon as the kernel starts, I get the following: kernel (hd0,2)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda6 vga=791 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x131b7d] You passed an undefined mode number. Press RETURN to see video modes available, SPACE to continue or wait 30 secs CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y Number 1, I would turn off this option. I've never gotten good results from this. Number 2, framebuffer support would appear to be the problem with the mode failure. Do you have everything necessary for your particular video card? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gaim MSN
I've had no problems at all with 0.70 behind a firewall. It has worked flawlessly. On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 05:30, SMS WebMaster wrote: No no this problem from Gaim 0.70 check http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=944838forum_id=665 drewbian wrote: Looks like Microsoft is set to break third party clients real soon anyhows http://gaim.sourceforge.net/msn.php On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:29, SMS WebMaster wrote: I am in Saudi Arabia and I can't login to MSN by Gaim like you The problem is from Gaim because I can login with Kmess The message error is : Error reading from server Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I can't also login with Gaim here in Belgium On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:11, SMS WebMaster wrote: Hi Did anyone able to login MSN by Gaim in the past 4 days ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list . -- Kurt Bechstein | Unique Systems, Inc. System Administrator | 6920 Spring Valley Drive, #106 Phone: (419) 861-3331 | Holland, OH 43528 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.uniqsys.com Prepared with Ximian Evolution -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
--- Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the cost of memory for these little Vaios is quite prohibitive - after about 45 minutes Googling I've managed to find a UK supplier - he wants £120 for an additional 64meg (the maximum this machine will take). I'll have to ponder further whether that's a good investment. If you use this machine allot then yes it will be a good investment. Not just for KDE but for everything else as well. On one of my machines I run a PII 300 with 128Megs. It used to have only 64MB and I spent more time cursing under my breath than enjoying KDE. Had to swtich Galeon which seemed less resource hungry. Shortly after that I upgraded to 128MB and started KDE. Runs just fine unitl I have abouve 10 windows open. Then things slow to a crawl. JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
Thanks for the helpful tips Davide. JBanks --- Davide Brini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 October 2003 12:26, Joshua Banks wrote: My question is: What specifically is the difference between WindowMangers and Desktops? When I go here, http://xwinman.org/index.html they're listed as two separate entities. I've always thought of these as one in the same. Not-too-specific answer: Desktop managers are more Windoze-like, meaning that they tend to be more complete and control many parts of the graphic enviroment. A desktop environment has its own window manager. Furthermore, DEs often provide a lot of complementary software and utilities, whereas window managers are more bare bone, ie, they only give you the basic tools to work (panel, desktop and little more). Some say that WMs give you more freedom, but that's a matter of personal taste. The reason that I'm asking this is because I would like to load XFce, Gnome, desktops and have the abliity to choose which desktop that I use when I get my LOGIN promtp with KDM. If I load XFce and Gnome will these automatically show up listed in KDM as a choose to login to? Or do I need to do anything to /etc/rc.conf I don't think it will work that way. Maybe you can emerge selectwm. The page for the project is: http://ordiluc.net/selectwm look there before trying it. I've used it and it works fine: I had gnome, kde, icewm, windowmaker, fvwm2 and blackbox at the same time (wasting a lot of disk space, though :). NOTE: I don't use graphical login (KDM, GDM and similar), so I don't know if selectwm works fine in that situation. Bye -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
Thanks Harald. What mulitiple window managers, Fluxbox.. ect.. ect..?? JBanks --- Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I load XFce and Gnome will these automatically show up listed in KDM as a choose to login to? Yes. -- Hilsen Harald. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Package installation question
Hi all folks, I just completed installing Gentoo 1.4 Now its is running. My next step will be installing packages such as browser, email software, OpenOffice, etc. Where will be the preferrable folder/directory to untar the tarballs. Is it # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? so that both ROOT and USER can install/setup/run them without problem Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] POP3 spam filter suggestions
Hi all, I am using fetchmail, procmail and bogofilter to handle inbound mail here. So far I have had no problems with this setup. If you are intrested in my setup, let me know. William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 15:23, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi all folks, I just completed installing Gentoo 1.4 Now its is running. My next step will be installing packages such as browser, email software, OpenOffice, etc. Where will be the preferrable folder/directory to untar the tarballs. Is it # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? so that both ROOT and USER can install/setup/run them without problem Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. emerge package # download and compile emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile Root installs, user runs. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ircwInuLMrk7bIwRAkZdAKCv0t5HoJldALyd8rsb2DFXf1AosACeLxIS Cn1F80vZyRA7hbLpriwlEQ4= =mzZO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fetchmail/postfix error 501
Folks - Been running fetchmail(6.2.3) with postfix(2.0.11) for a while now. The recent spate of emails from virus-infected Microsoft boxes has brought up a problem that I'm having difficulty solving. Some of these mails have a FROM header with an unresolvable domain. Postfix rejects these with an SMTP 501 error, which causes fetchmail to abort processing. It keeps doing this until I remove the mail manually from the queue. I checked the man pages and found a fetchmail option - 'antispam 501'. This is *supposed* to force fetchmail to drop any 501-rejected mail completely, and continue processing. Unfortunately, after adding this option, it now fails on the same messages with a 'client/server protocol error'. So I'm looking for some help to do one of these two things: 1. Force fetchmail to drop 501-rejected mails completely. 2. Stop postfix from making the resolvable-domain check and rejecting the email based on that. Can anyone assist? ---Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3784715-- Quote of the Week: I probably won't start on the idea, and if I do it will wind up being an unfinished project on my personal website featuring pictures of my cat. rh2600 on /. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
Hi all folks, 2 CD-version Gentoo 1.4 == During OS installation I encountered difficulty in installing ; 1) # emerge -k kde 2) # emerge -k xfree The download time was quick (I have a 3MB broadband connection, single user) but installation each took more than 2 hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC with Crtl+Alt+Del. I found their packages on CD2 and have them copied to /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ Kindly advise where will be the preferable folder/directory to install 1) KDE. They have many packages such as kde-3.1.2.tbz2 kde-env-3-r2.tbz2 kdeaddons-3.1.2.tbz2 etc. On RH I found it installed on /root/.kde /home/user/.kde Kindly advise whether there is a solution to install all of them simultaneously and collectively. If YES then HOW. Which packages are essential to run KDE Is there a way to shorten the installation time on net-installation i.e. with '# emerge -k kde' 2) Xfree Where will be an ideal folder/directory to untar it. Is it; # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? Is there a way to shorten the installation time on net-installation i.e. with '# emerge -k xfree' Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Hi Mike, Thanks for your response. I just completed installing Gentoo 1.4 Now its is running. My next step will be installing packages such as browser, email software, OpenOffice, etc. Where will be the preferrable folder/directory to untar the tarballs. Is it # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? so that both ROOT and USER can install/setup/run them without problem Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. emerge package # download and compile How can I know they are available on net/website emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 16:14, Stephen Liu wrote: emerge package # download and compile How can I know they are available on net/website They are. Not possible to add ebuilds to portage for things that aren't available. How could the developer develop it otherwise? emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. If the binary wasn't in the correct place, or usuable (for whatever reason) emerge will download the source and compile it. This can take a very long time. I don't use binary packages, so am unsure of exactly what happens, but no doubt you will be told if the binary package was unusuable. If it just goes and gets the source and starts compiling the binary package wasn't were portage expected it to be. Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. I think you are missing the point of Gentoo. You don't do anything but issue a command, portage does the rest. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/isMLInuLMrk7bIwRApTEAKCBaPglnputtlV9zz26Xjk/8pKJbwCfRg/k ukSU2TELWhhVq2l0Bv9kUnA= =176M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sound problem
Hi all folks, Gentoo 1.4, 2CD version == I have Creative Sound Blaster Live card installed on my PC. During installing the OS I ran # emerge emu10k1 The download time was short but the total installation time took 2+ hours without completion compelling me to reboot the PC finally. Now the OS is running without sound. Can I reinstall it with the same command without chroot. How can I avoid repeating previous mishap running installation endless. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Stephen Liu: Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. emerge package # download and compile How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. Hope that helps, Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update
At 08:59 AM 10/13/2003, you wrote: My only thought. Wipe out or move aside /lib/modules/kernelname and try the procedure again. Shouldn't be necessary, but I had some problems with modules in the early days of 2.4.x, and this helped. FWIW, I've been doing that for a long time, possibly with 2.2 kernels. I'm not sure what make modules_install does, but it seems to NOT remove the dir and replace it. So, any old modules created with a previous build will remain. They should never be called though and therefore not cause problems, but something kept going wrong. So, I always rm -rf that dir and let make modules_install re-create it. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
At 10:56 AM 10/13/2003, you wrote: 1) # emerge -k kde 2) # emerge -k xfree As I understand gentoo and emerge (been using it less than a week), the -k will get pre-compiled packages and will NOT compile them. The download time was quick (I have a 3MB broadband connection, single user) but installation each took more than 2 hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC with Crtl+Alt+Del. Assuming it really was compiling KDE and XFREE, I think you're in for a much longer wait than the short 2 hours you gave it. The Gentoo Linux Desktop Configuration Guide says this about xfree: The emerge/install process of X will take awhile on even a quick system. The system is quite large, so be prepared to read a book, take a nap, etc. snip After this rather length process is completed, configuration will begin. For the KDE part, it says: Have a nice nap! Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] login problem
Hello, i'm running gentoo with X and my windowmanager is enligthenment with entrance as login manager. The problem is that, if I switch to a text console, anything I type at the login prompt return me the error : Login Incorrect. Does anyone known what's wrong?? TIA davide -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't load 3c59x after kernel update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 16:37, Hall Stevenson wrote: FWIW, I've been doing that for a long time, possibly with 2.2 kernels. I'm not sure what make modules_install does, but it seems to NOT remove the dir and replace it. So, any old modules created with a previous build will remain. They should never be called though and therefore not cause problems, but something kept going wrong. So, I always rm -rf that dir and let make modules_install re-create it. Without trying to argue the toss, 'make modules_install' does wipe out all previous build modules (only for the version you are compiling!). This is proved by the fact you need to re-emerge alsa-driver/nvidia-kernel/ pcmcia-cs/... each time you recompile your kernel. If you're paranoid, unlike me (who's that hiding under the desk! In the corner, I can see you!), delete away :) - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/isoFInuLMrk7bIwRAvktAJ4zZz22rPkusGZmbYDpzRruSJxMzgCeMPFL 2gurMaP3waRJtLOVNIKZGzc= =X7pr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
A. S. Budden wrote: Thus spake Stephen Liu: Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. emerge package # download and compile How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. Or try emerge search name e.g. emerge search kde emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! Just installed gentoo and from the base install it took about a day to compile and install kde (including all it's dependencies like XFree86). This is on an Athlon 1.3 Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. Try mounting the CD then running PKGIR=/path/to/packages/on/cd emerge -k kde (obviously specifying the right path) This might only save you the download though, not the compile, plus I've not tried it myself, this is from reading the portage manual (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-manual.xml). JD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Let emerge take care of that. For example emerge MozillaFirebird downloads and installs the app and takse care of file handling and install the apps so anyone can use them. I'm not sure why you want user to install them - once they are installed anyone can use them - however, portage has the ability to let users who are members of the portage group install programs. For OpenOffice you install as root with the net option, then each user runs setup to setup things pertanant to him. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:23:07 +0800 Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all folks, I just completed installing Gentoo 1.4 Now its is running. My next step will be installing packages such as browser, email software, OpenOffice, etc. Where will be the preferrable folder/directory to untar the tarballs. Is it # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? so that both ROOT and USER can install/setup/run them without problem Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Hi Al, Thanks for your advice. - snip - How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 # find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 ./app-office/openoffice-bin ./app-office/openoffice Then what command shall I issue to install them 1) emerge -k openoffice or 2) ./openoffice-bin Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. How to make such a search, what command to use? emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! I tried follow; # emerge -p `cat mozilla` cat: mozilla: No such file or directory. Whether it means mozilla not available. OR I made an incorrect example Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. What command shall be used? I have all tarballs copied to /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] POP3 spam filter suggestions
William Hubbs wrote: Hi all, I am using fetchmail, procmail and bogofilter to handle inbound mail here. So far I have had no problems with this setup. If you are intrested in my setup, let me know. Very. Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] login problem
On Monday 13 October 2003 11:50 am, Davide Fanciola wrote: Hello, i'm running gentoo with X and my windowmanager is enligthenment with entrance as login manager. The problem is that, if I switch to a text console, anything I type at the login prompt return me the error : Login Incorrect. Does anyone known what's wrong?? TIA davide -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Switching to a terminal requires that you log in to that terminal. Are you sure you've logged in? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:56, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi all folks, 2 CD-version Gentoo 1.4 == During OS installation I encountered difficulty in installing ; 1) # emerge -k kde 2) # emerge -k xfree The download time was quick (I have a 3MB broadband connection, single user) but installation each took more than 2 hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC with Crtl+Alt+Del. I found their packages on CD2 and have them copied to /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ Kindly advise where will be the preferable folder/directory to install 1) KDE. They have many packages such as kde-3.1.2.tbz2 kde-env-3-r2.tbz2 kdeaddons-3.1.2.tbz2 etc. On RH I found it installed on /root/.kde /home/user/.kde Kindly advise whether there is a solution to install all of them simultaneously and collectively. If YES then HOW. Which packages are essential to run KDE Is there a way to shorten the installation time on net-installation i.e. with '# emerge -k kde' 2) Xfree Where will be an ideal folder/directory to untar it. Is it; # tar -jxvf /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2 -C /usr/local/ ??? Although they are tarballs, you don't just untar Gentoo packages. You emerge them, and that will take care of the installation location etc. emerge -k kde or emerge -k xfree will take care of all that for you. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Logger Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I keep getting the following error: Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] The problem started after I replaced metalog with syslogd. I noticed I had some problems with syslogd so I replaced that with metalog. Gentoo runs fine I just get this error. How can I fully remove sysklogd? I did emerge unmerge syslogd in the past already but the error is still there. Thanks, - -- Kevin Miller, Jr. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/inAjP2TQUAjSykARAtZVAJ9/4OYKLHMqa0FDrmXW39QbMouCKwCeK1C9 zAYQJnLtpFJOxtcgi2BZGz8= =U7ZY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Logger Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 10:27, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: I keep getting the following error: Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] The problem started after I replaced metalog with syslogd. I noticed I had some problems with syslogd so I replaced that with metalog. Gentoo runs fine I just get this error. How can I fully remove sysklogd? I did emerge unmerge syslogd in the past already but the error is still there. init scripts are considered configuration files, so are not removed when unmerge'ing. Just delete the sysklogd init script and re-run depscan.sh - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/itN0InuLMrk7bIwRAh1MAJ4hymq/dhEVNrToBIwEDIv/snDsUACfakXt fiCpcS/PzSWN9PYe8JGfkmw= =izjZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups server help
Quoting Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm about to start throwing stuff! I can't figure out how to set up my /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on Gentoo#1 so that I can use its printer from Gentoo#2 I've followed a couple of howto's without results and would appreciate some help from someone who has a similar setup. Gentoo#2 is looking to the network for the printer but lpstat -a returns Unable to connect to server: Connection refused I have a similiar setup. It is an older, crufty Gentoo box that I haven't had time to update recently, so it is an older version of cups, etc. That having been said, here is a diff of the working network server and the default cups installation (both gentoo boxes, both several months older than the current snapshot). /etc/cups/cupsd.conf is the file in question: (cups.conf-chalice is the working network print server config, I.e. +++ represents the diffs you're interested in). Note that 10.2.x is our internal network, yours will likely differ. # diff -u /etc/cups/cupsd.conf cupsd.conf-chalice --- /etc/cups/cupsd.conf2003-06-04 11:50:04.0 -0500 +++ cupsd.conf-chalice 2003-10-13 11:19:00.0 -0500 @@ -1,14 +1,14 @@ # -# $Id: cupsd.conf-1.1.18,v 1.1 2003/01/27 21:50:16 lordvan Exp $ +# $Id: cupsd.conf.in,v 1.10 2002/12/17 22:08:08 mike Exp $ # -# Sample configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS) +#Sample configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS) # scheduler. # -# Copyright 1997-2003 by Easy Software Products, all rights reserved. +# Copyright 1997-2003 by Easy Software Products, all rights reserved. # -# These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs are the -# property of Easy Software Products and are protected by Federal -# copyright law. Distribution and use rights are outlined in the file +# These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs are the +# property of Easy Software Products and are protected by Federal +#copyright law. Distribution and use rights are outlined in the file # LICENSE.txt which should have been included with this file. If this # file is missing or damaged please contact Easy Software Products # at: @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ # To set the default server used by clients, see the client.conf file. # -ServerName localhost +#ServerName myhost.domain.com # # ServerAdmin: the email address to send all complaints/problems to. @@ -364,8 +364,7 @@ #Port 80 #Port 443 -##Port 631 -Listen 127.0.0.1:631 +Port 631 # # HostNameLookups: whether or not to do lookups on IP addresses to get a @@ -427,7 +426,7 @@ # information on the network. Enabled by default. # -#Browsing On +Browsing On # # BrowseProtocols: which protocols to use for browsing. Can be @@ -473,7 +472,7 @@ #BrowseAddress x.y.255.255 #BrowseAddress x.255.255.255 #BrowseAddress 255.255.255.255 -#BrowseAddress @LOCAL +BrowseAddress @LOCAL #BrowseAddress @IF(name) # @@ -706,8 +705,11 @@ Location / Order Deny,Allow -Deny From All -Allow From 127.0.0.1 +Deny From None +# All +#Allow From 127.0.0.1 +Allow From All +# Allow From 10.* /Location #Location /classes @@ -775,11 +777,13 @@ ## Restrict access to local domain Order Deny,Allow Deny From All -Allow From 127.0.0.1 +#Allow From 127.0.0.1 +Allow From 10.2.* +# Allow From 10.* #Encryption Required /Location # -# End of $Id: cupsd.conf-1.1.18,v 1.1 2003/01/27 21:50:16 lordvan Exp $. +# End of $Id: cupsd.conf.in,v 1.10 2002/12/17 22:08:08 mike Exp $. # -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] prelinking KDE
On 13 Oct 2003, at 1:09 pm, A. S. Budden wrote: Thus spake Stroller: Unfortunately the cost of memory for these little Vaios is quite prohibitive - after about 45 minutes Googling I've managed to find a UK supplier - he wants £120 for an additional 64meg (the maximum this machine will take). It does of course depend on which Vaio you've got, but I've just upgraded my R600 from 128MB to 384MB. Bought the memory for 75 quid from www.crucial.com/uk 128MB was 35 quid for either this laptop or my old one (Z600) Just thought there might be a chance it'd be cheaper than wherever you tried. Unfortunately mine's one of the C1 series - the very small 9.5 x 6 inch ones with a 1140 x 480 widescreen (and the little built-in camera). I gather that its memory upgrades may be an unusual form-factor. I've found Cruicial's website very helpful in the past, since I've largely managed to avoid building hardware in the last couple of years, and know little about anything more modern that PC100 DIMMS. The Cruicial website makes it easy to order memory for my Mac, but searching for the Vaio just give me a link to email us your system details. Thank you for your enquiry. If you have a requirement for RDRAM, RIMMs or a module with 2 notches near the centre, you will need RAMBUS memory. Unfortunately we don't currently manufacture this, please contact your system or motherboard manufacturer directly for advice on the availability of memory for your system. To check on pricing or to place an order please follow the Crucial Product Search link on the top right of our web site home page (http://www.crucial.com/uk) or call us on 0800 013 0330. All prices listed are only valid for one working day. If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to contact us (for a faster response please reply directly to this email). Regards MARIA HOUSTON MEMORY ADVISOR It is just me, or is this COMPLETELY unhelpful, considering I've given them make model of my laptop, and the Sony part-number..? *sulks* Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
On Monday 13 October 2003 12:07 pm, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Al, Thanks for your advice. - snip - How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 # find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 ./app-office/openoffice-bin ./app-office/openoffice Then what command shall I issue to install them 1) emerge -k openoffice or 2) ./openoffice-bin Openoffice-bin will definately install faster (26 minutes on my box) but at the expense of some speed running the app later. Openoffice will take a long time to compile. (according to my logs 37 hrs 20 min) My box is an Athlon XP2100 with 512 Megs RAM Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. How to make such a search, what command to use? emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! I tried follow; # emerge -p `cat mozilla` cat: mozilla: No such file or directory. Whether it means mozilla not available. OR I made an incorrect example Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. What command shall be used? I have all tarballs copied to /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
Hey everyone, I am trying to do a fresh installation on a Biostar IDEQ 200N computer. This setup has a VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller in it and my two sata drives which do show up in the VIA BIOS message at bootup are not being detected by the kernel. Specifically, once the livecd finished booting, I only see /dev/hdc (which is my dvd drive); no other /dev/hd* available. I'm using the latest athalon-xp liveCD (cd1) downloaded saturday. I did some searching around and tried to boot with the 'smp' and 'smp-nofb' kernels with and without 'doataraid' options. Unfortunately, none seemed to do the trick... So the mistake I made is that I'm not interested in using the RAID hardware controller, just the sata drives, but I didn't notice that this unit's sata support is with a RAID controller. It seems like some of the other kernels might have support for this, but I don't know how to get to that point. So, is there any way I can avoid returning these drives and replacing them with ata100 drives? (I'd just like to avoid that transaction is all. I've been curious about the sata drives for sometime). Thanks in advance! -- Daniel Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Stephen Liu: Hi Al, Thanks for your advice. - snip - How can I know they are available on net/website If you know the name of the package, have a look in /usr/portage with find, e.g. cd /usr/portage find . -name 'rolo' -maxdepth 2 find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 # find . -name 'openoffice*' -maxdepth 2 ./app-office/openoffice-bin ./app-office/openoffice Then what command shall I issue to install them 1) emerge -k openoffice or 2) ./openoffice-bin I'd imagine it would be emerge -k openoffice... have a look on the online package database at the descriptions of both. Will probably give a better indication. 2) should be emerge -k openoffice-bin I think Alternatively, have a trawl through the online package listing on the gentoo website. How to make such a search, what command to use? Unfortunately, there isn't a web based search. You can do: emerge search searchterm As another poster suggested (I didn't know this, but then I only started using gentoo on friday!). Once you know which section it's in, you can go and have a look on the website for more details, e.g. with sc, type: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. emerge -k package # try to use a precompile binary, or download and compile During installation of Gentoo OS, I have encountered difficulty on running # emerge -k kde and # emerge -k xfree Each took 2+ hours respectively without completion compelling me to reboot the PC. The download time was short but the installation time was endless with screen running continuously. There probably aren't any binaries available for you system or something, so it's compiling from source. This takes a LONG time! I'm currently installing qt, kde and a few other bits and bobs on my fairly fast PC... it's taken 2 hours so far and I don't expect it to finish for a while. Write a list of what you want to install, save it in (say) emergenext.txt, then do emerge -p `cat emergenext.txt` check the results, then do the same without the -p. Then go home for the weekend. You never know, it might be done! I tried follow; # emerge -p `cat mozilla` cat: mozilla: No such file or directory. Whether it means mozilla not available. OR I made an incorrect example My apologies, I obviously didn't explain myself well enough. Try this and see if it makes it any clearer: echo net-www/mozilla mylist.txt echo net-www/w3m mylist.txt echo kde mylist.txt emerge -p `cat mylist.txt` Should say that it would install a whole lot of packages! then do: emerge `cat mylist.txt` and it'll go off and do it. The advantage of this is that you can prepare a whole lot of packages that you want it to compile and then leave it for a long time, rather than having to be at the computer or going back every hour or so. Get a nice long list of everything you want and then leave your computer to build it all over the weekend or whatever. Root installs, user runs. Where shall I untar the tarball, on which folder? Will installation find the right folder automatically. Don't. Let portage do the work. Just use emerge. What command shall be used? I have all tarballs copied to /usr/portage/packages/ALL/ emerge packagename where packagename is something like kde or mozilla or app-office/sc (without the quotes). Adding a -k before the package name will try and use a binary if it's available. In many ways this defies the point of gentoo though, as it's supposed to be a source based distribution (makes things run faster). Also, -k only installs binaries if they're available, otherwise it compiles from source. That's about all I can think of, if I've missed anything or said anything wrong, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will pick up on it and correct me. I think the key thing when you're installing gentoo (which hopefully I'll finish eventually!) is to be very very very very very very very patient. Hope that helps Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] POP3 spam filter suggestions
Hi William, Do you use this with a dial-up or constant connection? I use dial-up with kmail right now. I would be interested is your setup. Thanks, Harlan... On Monday 13 October 2003 09:26 am, William Hubbs wrote: Hi all, I am using fetchmail, procmail and bogofilter to handle inbound mail here. So far I have had no problems with this setup. If you are intrested in my setup, let me know. William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
A. S. Budden wrote: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. 'emerge search' does support searching with regular expressions. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] question to linux-headers
Hello. I wonder what's going on with those version numbers. I currently use a gentoo-stable kernel (sys-kernel/gs-sources-2.4.21_rc8). But for some time now when trying to update a package it tells me to update sys-kernel/linux-headers as well - from 2.4.19 to 2.4.19-r1. Why 2.4._19_, although I use 2.4.21? How's that meant? Shouldn't I have installed sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21, which is also available in portage-tree? Regards, Frank. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problem
On 13 Oct 2003, at 4:31 pm, Stephen Liu wrote: The download time was short but the total installation time took 2+ hours without completion compelling me to reboot the PC finally. Now the OS is running without sound. Can I reinstall it with the same command without chroot. How can I avoid repeating previous mishap running installation endless. I think you might find these products more suitable than Gentoo: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/91/standard http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/91/powerpack Mandrake is the distro I recommend to my friends who haven't ever used Linux before. It handles installation of binaries more smoothly than Gentoo does - the stuff you see running endlessly off the screen is Gentoo compiling the software from the language originally written by the programmer into machine-readable (binary) form. You can leave the compilation running in the background - alt-f1, alt-f2 c switch to a different virtual terminal - but on my Pentium II III systems some compiles literally take days. It should not be necessary to reboot the PC to abort the compilation - pressing the ctrl C keys together should terminate the emerge. If you use Mandrake for 6 months and really like it, but find some things don't quite fit the way you want them to, find yourself compiling from source often, or find yourself more comfortable at the command-line, then perhaps then would be a good time to come back to Gentoo. I really don't consider Gentoo a first Linux distribution. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
Thus spake Andrew Gaffney: A. S. Budden wrote: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. 'emerge search' does support searching with regular expressions. Even better! (I will RTFM at some point... maybe when I've finally got kde, qt, mozillafirebird etc compiled... give me a week or so!) Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] login problem
The problem is that I cannot login in text-mode console! But the X-based login (entrance) is working fine. When I say anything I type, it means : any user account present on my system... Thank you anyway On Monday 13 October 2003 11:50 am, Davide Fanciola wrote: Hello, i'm running gentoo with X and my windowmanager is enligthenment with entrance as login manager. The problem is that, if I switch to a text console, anything I type at the login prompt return me the error : Login Incorrect. Does anyone known what's wrong?? TIA davide -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Switching to a terminal requires that you log in to that terminal. Are you sure you've logged in? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
On 13 Oct 2003, at 4:45 pm, Hall Stevenson wrote: At 10:56 AM 10/13/2003, you wrote: 1) # emerge -k kde 2) # emerge -k xfree As I understand gentoo and emerge (been using it less than a week), the -k will get pre-compiled packages and will NOT compile them. Indeed. I think it is likely that the OP has not copied the pre-compiled packages to somewhere that Portage will expect to find them, or has not mounted that CD, or something. Distribution on DVD might make installation of binaries easier. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
Thus spake Stroller: [snip] Distribution on DVD might make installation of binaries easier. For what it's worth, here in the UK, this month's Linux Magazine comes with Gentoo on the disc (with instructions on how to install from CD rather than network). They do a CD version and a DVD version, the latter having an enormous number of packages. However, I don't know whether there're binaries or not -- I couldn't use the thing anyway, my laptop's insert lots of swearing here snazzy firewire CDRW/DVD drive doesn't like Linux very much at the time of writing. I'm hoping I can get this working either with gentoo and my first kernel compile (no luck yet) or with kernel 2.6. We'll see... I'm digressing, aren't I... sorry, I'll shut up now. Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
A. S. Budden wrote: Thus spake Andrew Gaffney: A. S. Budden wrote: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. 'emerge search' does support searching with regular expressions. Even better! (I will RTFM at some point... maybe when I've finally got kde, qt, mozillafirebird etc compiled... give me a week or so!) So, the equivelant of what you tried to do is 'emerge -s ^sc$'. The regex is matched only on the package name, not the category. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Logger Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. That solved the problem. Kevin On Monday 13 October 2003 04:31 pm, Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 13 October 2003 10:27, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: I keep getting the following error: Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... * Service 'metalog' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'sysklogd'...[ ok ] The problem started after I replaced metalog with syslogd. I noticed I had some problems with syslogd so I replaced that with metalog. Gentoo runs fine I just get this error. How can I fully remove sysklogd? I did emerge unmerge syslogd in the past already but the error is still there. init scripts are considered configuration files, so are not removed when unmerge'ing. Just delete the sysklogd init script and re-run depscan.sh -- Mike Williams - -- Kevin Miller, Jr. Masters of Public Affairs, Comparative and International Affairs, Information Systems, and Nonprofit Management, School of Public and Environmental Affairs Indiana University - Bloomington http://e-civilsociety.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 812-219-5047 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ioGvP2TQUAjSykARAuiaAJ4gv13BIMOCcdoLYPgO1Ao6P+WB2QCeM6Zg nWrab6NnZ0zxAe233aIDbEk= =hI1e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery
Did anyone else get one of these? It must be comming from a mailing list but I see nothing that would indicate which one. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mail.ntplx.net (8.12.10/8.12.9/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id h9DGCEiT029055 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from robson-gb.com (unknown[12.242.196.94](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id 200310131612140130094qf7e; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:12:14 + Received: from IMAIL_LOCAL (unverified [localhost]) by robson-gb.com (SurgeMail 1.5c) with ESMTP id 99 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:11:56 +000 From: Friends system [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery X-Confirm: 1066043516.2289_59.htpc Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:11:56 +000 X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and CyberSoft VFind (mail.ntplx.net) Content-Length: 286 Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: I only accept emails from people on my list of friends and you are not currently on my list of friends. If you would like to be added to the list please just reply to this message without changing the subject line. For more information see http://netwinsite.com/surgemail/friends.htm -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package installation question
On Monday 13 October 2003 01:11 pm, A. S. Budden wrote: Thus spake Andrew Gaffney: A. S. Budden wrote: emerge search sc will give you a whole list of things with 'sc' in. In amongst these is app-office/sc, so go to http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/index.xml and click on app-office, then sc. This will give you a few details, including the developer homepage etc. In most cases, I think you can bypass the clicking by doing (e.g.) http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/app-office/sc.xml Actually sc is a lousy example as there a lot of things with sc in their name, so you'll get lots of results. In this case you might want to try emerge search sc | egrep '^\*.*\/sc$' or something like that. 'emerge search' does support searching with regular expressions. Even better! (I will RTFM at some point... maybe when I've finally got kde, qt, mozillafirebird etc compiled... give me a week or so!) Al -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list So you would advocate that a surgeon attend medical school AFTER his first heart transplant? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
On 13 Oct 2003, at 6:24 pm, A. S. Budden wrote: Thus spake Stroller: [snip] Distribution on DVD might make installation of binaries easier. For what it's worth, here in the UK, this month's Linux Magazine comes with Gentoo on the disc (with instructions on how to install from CD rather than network). They do a CD version and a DVD version, the latter having an enormous number of packages... It's certainly worth a look - even if the packages are in source form, such a DVD would be useful for folks on dial-up. Although such publications are undoubtedly useful for newcomers for popularising Linux, I don't really want to spend money on a Linux magazine that I'll never read - but I do rather feel it might be worth a couple of quid in order to produce a BitTorrent of such a useful DVD. However, I don't know whether there're binaries or not -- I couldn't use the thing anyway, my laptop's insert lots of swearing here snazzy firewire CDRW/DVD drive doesn't like Linux very much at the time of writing. I'm hoping I can get this working either with gentoo and my first kernel compile (no luck yet) or with kernel 2.6. I'm sure you will. The great thing I found about installing Gentoo on my laptop was that I learned all about the kernel compilation options that I'd always rushed through before. ;-] Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 01:47:32PM -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote: Did anyone else get one of these? It must be comming from a mailing list but I see nothing that would indicate which one. Just follow the link - you'll see it's spam from a company selling email management products. Nathan Meyers I only accept emails from people on my list of friends and you are not currently on my list of friends. If you would like to be added to the list please just reply to this message without changing the subject line. For more information see http://netwinsite.com/surgemail/friends.htm -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Distcc on LiveCD..?
Anyone know if any of the Gentoo LiveCDs for x86 have distcc on them..? I have a Windows box here: I need to have it around so can't install Gentoo on it, but I don't use it that much so it could help with compiles. Something like this would be ideal: http://www.gentoo.org/news/20030603-ppclivecd.xml But that's for Mac. This looks promising: http://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/http.pl?p=distccKNOPPIX But it doesn't say which version of GCC is on it. Cheers, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery
At 01:47 PM 10/13/2003, you wrote: Did anyone else get one of these? It must be comming from a mailing list but I see nothing that would indicate which one. It looks like what my ISP (Earthlink) has available as an anti-spam measure. It's the highest level of protection in that only people you specifically allow to e-mail you will get their messages through. If you follow the instructions, the user, Jonathan, in this case, will get your reply to him. Personally, I don't think I'll EVER sign up to have the privilege of sending someone an e-mail. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Ernie Schroder wrote: Did anyone else get one of these? It must be comming from a mailing list but I see nothing that would indicate which one. snip Yeah, I got one as well, just after I sent a question to the mailing list. Seems like someone has a poor implementation of challenge-response. ---Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3784715-- Quote of the Week: I probably won't start on the idea, and if I do it will wind up being an unfinished project on my personal website featuring pictures of my cat. rh2600 on /. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] POP3 spam filter suggestions
begin quote On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:57:26 +0100 Rick [Kitty5] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am wanting to use one of my gentoo box's to filter spam from several pop3 accounts I have. Am thinking the simplest solution would be some kind of transparent pop3 proxy that picks up email from the online pop3 accounts, runs them by spam assassin and then feeds them to the email client on my network. Any suggestions for making this happen or ideas for accomplishing the same end result? Could I suggest a slightly alternative setup? http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/local-mail-0.3.0/local-email.html //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] question to linux-headers
begin quote On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:08:55 +0200 Frank Reich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I wonder what's going on with those version numbers. I currently use a gentoo-stable kernel (sys-kernel/gs-sources-2.4.21_rc8). But for some time now when trying to update a package it tells me to update sys-kernel/linux-headers as well - from 2.4.19 to 2.4.19-r1. Why 2.4._19_, although I use 2.4.21? How's that meant? old thing. in usr/include/linux there should be a sanitized set of linux headers that don't really do much but support glibc in its internal process of dealing with the kernel. This version shouldn't change, as all moving interfaces should be found through /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include/linux (i think) The update to -r1 is a very small one, that just adds a virtual to tell your system that it has the OS headers, something which was not necessary when we first packaged linux-headers, but that had to be added now that we have more versions here. Shouldn't I have installed sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21, which is also available in portage-tree? Nope. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] info error at emerge
I get this error after each emerge. What is up with that? install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash' * Processed 86 info files; 1 errors. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
Hello, Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I'm asking because I'd like to run a big emerge (e.g. mozilla or kde) and then run several smaller ones (e.g. host, pciutils) at the same time so I can get on with configuring and setting up the little bits while the big bits are building. JD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:24, Jon Dye wrote: Hello, Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I'm asking because I'd like to run a big emerge (e.g. mozilla or kde) and then run several smaller ones (e.g. host, pciutils) at the same time so I can get on with configuring and setting up the little bits while the big bits are building. JD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I have done this on several occasions, but even as I write this someone else is writing to say that you should never ever ever do this. I did have some problems with my world file at one point, but a regenworld fixed it fine. -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problem
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:31:26 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi all folks, Gentoo 1.4, 2CD version == I have Creative Sound Blaster Live card installed on my PC. During installing the OS I ran # emerge emu10k1 The download time was short but the total installation time took 2+ hours without completion compelling me to reboot the PC finally. Now the OS is running without sound. Can I reinstall it with the same command without chroot. How can I avoid repeating previous mishap running installation endless. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Greetings! emu10k1 is a sound driver which must be compiled into the kernel or compiled as a module. Have you done that? If not, you need to and then be sure the module is loaded at boot time otherwise you will not have sound. Mike -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
Jon Dye wrote: Hello, Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I'm asking because I'd like to run a big emerge (e.g. mozilla or kde) and then run several smaller ones (e.g. host, pciutils) at the same time so I can get on with configuring and setting up the little bits while the big bits are building. While I have done it many times before without problems, YMMV. Chances of something going wrong are small, but its not recommended. Like I said, YMMV. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
I guess it can be done as long as the merges don't overlap each other and attempt to install common packages. To be honest, I don't do it since it's not worth the risk to me. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:28:36 +0100 Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:24, Jon Dye wrote: Hello, Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I'm asking because I'd like to run a big emerge (e.g. mozilla or kde) and then run several smaller ones (e.g. host, pciutils) at the same time so I can get on with configuring and setting up the little bits while the big bits are building. JD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I have done this on several occasions, but even as I write this someone else is writing to say that you should never ever ever do this. I did have some problems with my world file at one point, but a regenworld fixed it fine. -- Tom Wesley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
At 03:24 PM 10/13/2003, you wrote: Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I'm asking because I'd like to run a big emerge (e.g. mozilla or kde) and then run several smaller ones (e.g. host, pciutils) at the same time so I can get on with configuring and setting up the little bits while the big bits are building. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=30842 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnucash not working properly
I recently installed Gentoo Linux-1.4 and emerged gnome which gave me gnome 2.4. I emerged gnucash as well. I get the following error when trying to launch help or reports. gtkhtml-ERROR **: gconf error: Failed to contact configuration server (a likely cause of this is that you have an existing configuration server (gconfd) running, but it isn't reachable from here - if you're logged in from two machines at once, you may need to enable TCP networking for ORBit) aborting... Aborted I searched the discussion forum and see that other people had the same problem. The consensus is to start gconfd-1 separately but that causes problems depending on when it is started. If I start it during gnome startup then nautilus gets confused and does not draw the desktop background. Also, I have Save Window Geometry set in the Advanced settings dialog but the window geometries are not saved. -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:46:35 -0700, Daniel Wood wrote: So the mistake I made is that I'm not interested in using the RAID hardware controller, just the sata drives, but I didn't notice that this unit's sata support is with a RAID controller. It seems like some of the other kernels might have support for this, but I don't know how to get to that point. The changelog for kernel 2.6.0-test5 shows: ide: add very basic support for VIA 8237 SATA controller I am currently using 2.6.0-test7 without any problems but i dont have SATA drives.So you might want to give test7 a try. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question about this mailing list
I've been noticing something in quoted messages and thought this is a very well-behaved group, but now I suspect it's the mailing list software :-) Sorry guys and girls. Anyway, I'm referring to parts of the quoted messages being snipped out. I've never seen that done before and kinda like it. Often, people do quote way too much. I'm wondering if this possibly snips too much out too. I mean, I may not read the original but then a reply catches my attention. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Question about this mailing list
Thats the group itself, I don't think thats the software. I have never seen the list software cut any of my replyies like that. I do it normally.. I've been noticing something in quoted messages and thought this is a very well-behaved group, but now I suspect it's the mailing list software :-) Sorry guys and girls. Anyway, I'm referring to parts of the quoted messages being snipped out. I've never seen that done before and kinda like it. Often, people do quote way too much. I'm wondering if this possibly snips too much out too. I mean, I may not read the original but then a reply catches my attention. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery
Yup, Got the same thing as well. JBanks --- Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I got one of those today, too. But only one, and have posted several times to the list today. It was from the same idiot, tho'. Stroller. On 13 Oct 2003, at 6:47 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: Did anyone else get one of these? It must be comming from a mailing list but I see nothing that would indicate which one. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mail.ntplx.net (8.12.10/8.12.9/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id h9DGCEiT029055 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from robson-gb.com (unknown[12.242.196.94](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id 200310131612140130094qf7e; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:12:14 + Received: from IMAIL_LOCAL (unverified [localhost]) by robson-gb.com (SurgeMail 1.5c) with ESMTP id 99 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:11:56 +000 From: Friends system [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please reply to confirm:1066043516.2289_59.htpc message and allow delivery X-Confirm: 1066043516.2289_59.htpc Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:11:56 +000 X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and CyberSoft VFind (mail.ntplx.net) Content-Length: 286 Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: I only accept emails from people on my list of friends and you are not currently on my list of friends. If you would like to be added to the list please just reply to this message without changing the subject line. For more information see http://netwinsite.com/surgemail/friends.htm -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Question about this mailing list
-Original Message- From: Hall Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Question about this mailing list I've been noticing something... SNIP ...I'm referring to parts of the quoted messages being snipped out. SNIP Done by hand here Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running mulitiple Window Mangers/Desktops?
* Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-13 03:26]: Does this mean that XFree is my window manger and KDE is an extension of XFree? What specifically is the difference between WindowMangers and Desktops? When I go here, Have a read of Section 16.1: What is X here: http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-x.html#id3025038 for a brief explanation of X server, window manager and desktop. have the abliity to choose which desktop that I use when I get my LOGIN promtp with KDM. Each installed window manager / desktop will install a file in /etc/X11/Sessions which is used by {x,g,k}dm etc. Cheers David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:46:35 -0700, Daniel Wood wrote: So the mistake I made is that I'm not interested in using the RAID hardware controller, just the sata drives, but I didn't notice that this unit's sata support is with a RAID controller. It seems like some of the other kernels might have support for this, but I don't know how to get to that point. The changelog for kernel 2.6.0-test5 shows: ide: add very basic support for VIA 8237 SATA controller I am currently using 2.6.0-test7 without any problems but i dont have SATA drives.So you might want to give test7 a try. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Thanks mikpolniak! I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question is... How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? Thanks for your help! daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple emerges
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:24, Jon Dye wrote: Hello, Could anyone tell me wether I can run multiple instances of emerge at the same time or not? I guess it depends on how well it loks the portage database? I have done this many time my self with out problems. I would say to do a emerge -p packname first and as long as there are no conflicting packages, a package that both want to install, all should be ok. Jayson Garrell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. On 13 Oct 2003 13:13:42 -0700 Daniel Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question is... How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? Thanks for your help! daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] multiple kernels emerge nvidia-kernel?
Hi. I'm interested in installing both the gentoo-sources kernel and the vanilla-sources, so that there's a fallback if vanilla-sources doesn't run well. If I emerge and build both kernels during a fresh gentoo install, will emerging nvidia-kernel install the nvidia driver for both kernels? Thanks. -Greg Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
I think he is talking FOR the installation. If the kernel that is on the live cd doesn't support what he wants, can he choose another.. being I never have used a cd. I can't help.. Just trying to clear up the question.. Am I correct? During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. SNIP How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? SNIP -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernels emerge nvidia-kernel?
No, you'll have to boot the kernel then emerge it. On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:30, Greg Yasko wrote: Hi. I'm interested in installing both the gentoo-sources kernel and the vanilla-sources, so that there's a fallback if vanilla-sources doesn't run well. If I emerge and build both kernels during a fresh gentoo install, will emerging nvidia-kernel install the nvidia driver for both kernels? Thanks. -Greg Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Cheers, Paul J. Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernels emerge nvidia-kernel?
On Monday 13 October 2003 04:39 pm, Paul Fraser wrote: No, you'll have to boot the kernel then emerge it. Is this strictly correct or would the nvidia kernel and glx modules build in the kernel linked to /usr/src/linux? On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:30, Greg Yasko wrote: Hi. I'm interested in installing both the gentoo-sources kernel and the vanilla-sources, so that there's a fallback if vanilla-sources doesn't run well. If I emerge and build both kernels during a fresh gentoo install, will emerging nvidia-kernel install the nvidia driver for both kernels? Thanks. -Greg Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
Could be. It wasn't clear to me. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:31:12 -0500 Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he is talking FOR the installation. If the kernel that is on the live cd doesn't support what he wants, can he choose another.. being I never have used a cd. I can't help.. Just trying to clear up the question.. Am I correct? During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. SNIP How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? SNIP -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernels emerge nvidia-kernel?
On Monday 13 October 2003 22:39, Paul Fraser wrote: No, you'll have to boot the kernel then emerge it. On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:30, Greg Yasko wrote: Hi. I'm interested in installing both the gentoo-sources kernel and the vanilla-sources, so that there's a fallback if vanilla-sources doesn't run well. If I emerge and build both kernels during a fresh gentoo install, will emerging nvidia-kernel install the nvidia driver for both kernels? nvidia compile against the kernel pointed by the link /usr/src/linux 1. link /usr/src/linux to the 1st kernel sources 2. emerge nvidia-kernel 3. link to the second kernel 4. emerge nvidia-kernel -- mathieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Setting up menus in KDE
Hi, I'm used to debian where every package sets up a menu entry in KDE/gnome automatically, is there something like this for gentoo? If not is there an autmated way of creating menus so I don't have to add all my programs by hand? JD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problem on booting after installation.
1) At time of installation Installing additional hardware-specific ebuilds # emerge emuk10k1 (Creative Sound Blaster Live!/Audigy support) It took more 2 hours without completion. The screen was still moving. Finally I rebooted the PC by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del 2) At time of installation emerge -k xfree Problem and solution same as above 3) After reboot the PC # emerge -k kde Problem and solution same as above. # which kde could not find it All download times were very short and the installation time was too long. The screen continued moving 'writing file/fonts, deleting file/fonts, etc.' How fast is your machine - on my little PIII 733 xfree takes about 8 hours to compile and kde takes about 15. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Users perspective of Mandrake 9.2 vs. Gentoo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation question : Biostar IDEQ 200N
Thanks for the replies, and sorry for the confusion... Brett : the issue is actually step 6 of the installation where I cannot see my sata drives to partition, etc. So to be clear here it is : I have a Biostar IDEQ 200N with a VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller in it. the machine has two, completely blank, new sata drives plugged into channel0 and channel1 of SATA controller and a dvd player/recorder. I stick in the live-cd, it boots nicely (looks great btw), and I end up at root's bash prompt. Networking working great, things look good. At this point, according to step 6 of the install (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap6), I need to fdisk to create partitions. A the rub, I don't have any hard-drives showing up in /dev. I've got /dev/hdc - dvd player, but that's it. My fairly safe guess is that the VIA VT6420 SATA RAID controller isn't 'detected' and thus, neither are my drives. My googling/foruming/MI has indicated that there are other kernels which *might* detect this controller. But... how to use? If I cannot have access to the drives at all, what--if anything--can I do to actually use an alternative kernel (i.e. one that's not on the liveCD)? I thought about the knopplix (sp?) boot disk to see if it detected the controller (people seem to indicate that it detects alot of hardware), but then I wouldn't know what to do if it did :) Now, as I write this, one additional thing comes to mind: If I choose to boot the smp-nofb kernel, I get an additional message during bootup. I'm not at the computer now, so I cannot even confirm that it is at all related, but I recall it saying something about something-something IRQ 7 something-something (that's embarrassing, but that's all I can recall). Thanks in advance everyone! daniel On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:27, brett holcomb wrote: During the install you are given a chance to build a kernel. You'll have to do an ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge kernel you want. Check portage for the kernels available. On 13 Oct 2003 13:13:42 -0700 Daniel Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:50, mikpolniak wrote: I will definitely look at that kernel. So the question is... How do I get to use that kernel during the initial installation? The live-cd has some number of kernels, if none of them support the sata controller, how do I go about using another one for the initial installation? Thanks for your help! daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Daniel Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Users perspective of Mandrake 9.2 vs. Gentoo
http://qrxx.4t.com/linuxbeat3.htm Grandma had a dual Athlon system? Kewl! ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list