[gentoo-user] Looking for a Template
I do some contract work and thus am in need of a good invoice for services template in OpenOffice, Abiword, KOffice,...etc to replace my usage of the same thing in Microsoft Word, I've searched this forum and Google for some but couldn't find any. If anybody knows where I could acquire one I would appreciate a heads up. Thanks, Kent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] reiserfs corruption likelihood?
brett holcomb wrote: Can't speak for reiserfs but XFS has been solid here for over a year and I know people who are running a large number of business systems (servers, etc.) on XFS. On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:23:38 -0500 Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I see about once a week someone asking about Reiserfs and problems.. I use ext3.. But I just can't figure out if these are user things or if reiserfs just that flaky.. I don't see to much ext2/3 or xfs questions.. But I don't know just how many people actually use XFS.. Purusing the Gentoo FAQ, I ran across the following: ReiserFS and filesystem corruption issues -- how to fix'em, etc If your ReiserFS partition is corrupt, try booting the Gentoo Linux boot CD and run reiserfsck --rebuild-tree on the corrupted filesystem. This should make the filesystem consistent again, although you may have lost some files or directories due to the corruption. Granted I should have read this before doing the install, but, I made all my partitions Reiser (except for boot). So now I'm wondering about the likelihood of data corruption. Has anyone experienced it? Are there things I can do to ensure it doesn't happen to me (or at least reduce the possibility)? (Other than backup early, backup often of course :) From my expirience reiserfs is definately a stable and good file system. The reason for many of the mails is that reiserfs complains about problems (e.g. with the drive) much earlier than other filesystems. If you count that as a pro or con is up to you. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
Ian Truelsen wrote: I am using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ian $ glxgears 3856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 771.200 FPS 4194 frames in 5.0 seconds = 838.800 FPS 4094 frames in 5.0 seconds = 818.800 FPS 4107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 821.400 FPS 4153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 830.600 FPS I don't know how those match up to others, but it certainly is faster than my old Voodoo. Hmm, using the same kernel and a Radeon 8500LE, (now cheaper than that nVidia card), and 16bpp, (same as you), I get: 7485 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1497.000 FPS 8763 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1752.600 FPS 8744 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1748.800 FPS 8764 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1752.800 FPS That is using ATI's official drivers. I get slightly faster with the DRI offerings, but they don't draw textures properly. Personally I have various problems with the ATI drivers, such as Neverwinter Nights locking completely after 5 seconds of playing. The DRI drivers work in these circumstances, but the textures are all messed up, (still playable). From what I can discern, this is something most ATI user's don't see. I would suspect a Radeon 9600 or whatever they're on now, would not have these problems, and is going to be a shedload faster than my 8500LE. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on RAID1 and Grub
Timo Boettcher schrieb: I have that working on about 5 machines. Make sure you do have grub installed on BOTH disks MBR's and marked the partitions on both installed on disks as active. Hi Timo, thanks for the advice, but I think I did that. I did: grub root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0xfd grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 16 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/grub.conf... succeeded Done. and then grub root (hd1,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0xfd grub setup (hd1) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1)... 16 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1) (hd1)1+16 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/grub.conf... succeeded Done. What do you mean with ...marked as active...? Any other ideas? Thanks! Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on RAID1 and Grub
Timo Boettcher wrote: I have that working on about 5 machines. Make sure you do have grub installed on BOTH disks MBR's and marked the partitions on both installed on disks as active. You don't need to set a partition as active. That is used by Windows only in my knowledge. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on RAID1 and Grub
Thomas Robers wrote: Hello, I've installed Gentoo on a RAID1 System with 2 x 40GB Harddisks and I use Grub as bootloader. My 'grub.conf' looks like this: default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo-Platte1 root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.23_pre6-gss-r1 root=/dev/md2 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.23_pre6-gss-r1 title=Gentoo-Platte2 root (hd1,0) kernel (hd1,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.23_pre6-gss-r1 root=/dev/md2 initrd (hd1,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.23_pre6-gss-r1 I thought it was possible to boot from the second disk too, if the the first fails, but when I try to boot from the second disk, the only thing I get is, the whole screen filled with the word grub. Is this when you set your BIOS to boot the second disk? MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on RAID1 and Grub
MAL schrieb: Is this when you set your BIOS to boot the second disk? MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, this happens in both cases: when I set the bios to boot from the second disk and when I disconnect the first disk from the IDE Bus and the system boots automatically from the second disk. The second disk is slave on the secondary IDE connector (i.e. /dev/hdd) after the cdrom drive. Could this cause problems? The disks are from IBM and WD, but i think different disks of the same size shouldn't be a problem? Any ideas? Thanks! Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: GPM and X ?
Hey all. I'm just now finishing setting up my Gentoo machine at work, and i have several problems. I'm gonna compile them later, but here's one of the most baffling. I ask because a search of the forums couldn't yield any help. I emerged gpm, made it run with my imps2 mouse on /dev/misc/psaux, and added it to the rc-scripts. No problem. Then, when I finished emerging X and Gnome and configuring everything, I realized that after I started X with startx and shut it down again, GPM would stop working, because it couldn't open the mouse. Sometimes doing cat /dev/misc/psaux, moving the mouse around, and ctrlCing I could start gpm again. Any ideas on what might be happening? Thanks Abilio actually, i don't heve that problem. the only difference is that i'm using GPM on /dev/psaux ...however i can't imagine how that could affect it..probably it is something else, but give it a try. computers are not deterministic :-) R# -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking to get a new video card for my desktop (the old Voodoo 3 is starting to show its age). What I would like to know is which of the big two nVidia or ATI are better supported under Linux for framebuffer stuff and for DRI. Given the choice between the two, which would you choose for Linux? ATI - the open source drivers are much better. And I don't want a tainted kernel. -- Hilsen Harald. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
i own both an nVidia and an ATI. - they work fine, but nVidia installation has been easier (though strictly dependent of nVidia Corp. wills) - gaming does better on nVidia, at least the games i own.. - ATI have a mechanically more robust cooling system; it could sound funny but i've always (3 cards) had to take care of nVidia card fan to avoid too much noise and strong vibrations - ATI has silenced cooling compared to nVidia R# -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] reiserfs corruption likelihood?
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:18:57 -0700 Matt Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Reiser on my laptop (and managed to crash it quite often) since last November. Never had any problem... Granted I should have read this before doing the install, but, I made all my partitions Reiser (except for boot). So now I'm wondering about the likelihood of data corruption. Has anyone experienced it? -- Linux *IS* user friendly: it just appears to be selective who it is friend with! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling stopped by power outage??
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try resuming the emerge from where it left (I know that OpenOffice takes forever to compile). See 'man ebuild' for all details. Generally a 'ebuild path_to_ebuild_file compile preinst install postinst qmerge merge clean' does the trick. You then have to unmerge the old version of the package manually, if it exists (i.e. you were upgrading from an older version). Bye Michele Noberasco When this type of situation occurs where a package is stopped uncleanly durning compilation do I just simply remerge the package in question again? Or are their other steps that I should take besides the obvious stated above? -- Linux *IS* user friendly: it just appears to be selective who it is friend with! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:56, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hi all, I need a mailsystem for around 2.000 POP3 accounts (and SMTP for them of course) and and I want to implement that in a safe way. So I thougt I setup some kind of backup server with the same config and then make a new, but higher MX record for this domain to that backup mailserver, right? Question: Sure, I can make a 1:1 copy of the 1st server, but if that one goes down and the 2nd is handling all the mails, how can users reach their old mails from primary server? Is it possible somehow to implement a fulltime copy (so that both server have always the same content on them), or do I have to sync the mail data over night for example? Thx for all your answers and hints! Greetings, Matthias We are planning something like that here at work now. Basic premise is thus: Primary: Dual CPU, bucket loads of ram, big ass raid 5 array Secondary/backup: Single CPU, enough ram, big ass raid 5 array Primary MX 10, secondary/backup MX 30 Now the kicker, D R B D ! Network raid 1, and heartbeat to watch over it. It seems the guy planning it (windows code monkey) wants to use Exim, due to native TLS, bleh. Oh, and debian, bleeeh. Should things get bigger and bigger, it's painfully easy to add more upfront mail servers and turn the old primary and secondary/backup into a failover backend storage system, and do it all over NFS. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/j7nEInuLMrk7bIwRAgrDAKCSoftM5iCRKfw7oAwWWuHii4WkoACfUAeW Ze8Cio9lP26zjSAqqUMjK0A= =f1tG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't compile PHP 4.3.3-r1
Hello All, Hi. configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling If anybody has an idea... Your compiler wants to cross-compile for another platform, and tests are not supported for cross-compiling. My guess is, that you have changed your CHOST in a non-stage-1 installation or that your CFLAGS contain some garbage, which make the compiler think of cross-compiling. Double check both of these conditions, please. Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia strikes again
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:54:59 -0500 Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003 00:48 schrieb Meka[ni]: Just to be sure, I'll tel you the exact commands I've executed. emerge nvidia-kernel emerge nvidia-glx opengl-update nvidia modprobe nvidia change the section in XF86Config from nv to nvidia. Should I do something else? I still get messages in /var/log/XFree86.0.log that it can not open /dev/nvidia0 for reading although the file is present and has rw-rw-rw- for flags. Please save me this mess! :o) Is it a character special file that looks like this? crw---1 rkilgore root 195, 0 1969-12-31 18:00 /dev/nvidia0 -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list No. It looks like this: crw-rw-rw- 1 rkilgore root 195, 0 1969-12-31 18:00 /dev/nvidia0 (actually, different user and date, but the rest is the same) Meka[ni] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Setting function keys in Gnome-Terminal
Hi all. My biggest problem at the moment, which is keeping me from using my brand-spanking-new Gentoo box to work on (have my WinXP laptop next to it) is function keys. I work as a programmer in a company that maintains old console apps, and to test them and use some of the Ingres tools we need, I need my keys mapped to specific values. I SSH into a Sun machine where the editing and testing take place, andthe settings there are completely different from my Linux Gnome-term. Therefore, Ineed to change them locally. I'll explain: In Windows, I use a terminal emulator called Powerterm which is already configured to work correctly. When I do Ctrl-V FKey the output is (examples): Shift-F3^[[25~ Shift-F2^[[24~ while if I connect via SSH in this linux system, it's Shift-F3^[O2R Shift-F2^[O2Q How can I change my local values to send those escape sequences in gnometerm? Thanks Abilio -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
MAL wrote: Hmm, using the same kernel and a Radeon 8500LE, (now cheaper than that nVidia card), and 16bpp, (same as you), I get: 7485 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1497.000 FPS 8763 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1752.600 FPS 8744 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1748.800 FPS 8764 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1752.800 FPS That is using ATI's official drivers. I get slightly faster with the DRI offerings, but they don't draw textures properly. Personally I have various problems with the ATI drivers, such as Neverwinter Nights locking completely after 5 seconds of playing. The DRI drivers work in these circumstances, but the textures are all messed up, (still playable). From what I can discern, this is something most ATI user's don't see. I would suspect a Radeon 9600 or whatever they're on now, would not have these problems, and is going to be a shedload faster than my 8500LE. these are my results with a GeForce FX Go5200 on a laptop: 12179 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2435.800 FPS 16752 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3350.400 FPS 16803 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3360.600 FPS 16839 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3367.800 FPS 16831 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3366.200 FPS i get way better performance than on my desktop system with the radeon 9000. i know, the fx 5200 is newer. still i believe nvidia has to be the choice ;-D cheers, eric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
quote who=Ian Truelsen On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:53:36 +0100 (BST) Done and done. I am using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ian $ glxgears 3856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 771.200 FPS 4194 frames in 5.0 seconds = 838.800 FPS 4094 frames in 5.0 seconds = 818.800 FPS 4107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 821.400 FPS 4153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 830.600 FPS I don't know how those match up to others, but it certainly is faster than my old Voodoo. Here's what I get. $ glxgears 6789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1357.800 FPS 7051 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1410.200 FPS 6977 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1395.400 FPS 6962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.400 FPS 6963 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.600 FPS Same card. Quite odd eh? :-\ One thing though: I think that I used to have AA fonts in X, or at least they weren't this jagged before. Does the nvidia driver deal with fonts differently? Thanks to all. I'm off to try America's Army :) Nvidia makes no changes to fonts AFAIK. You know, I've always been put off american army because of the extensive preparation of registering your soldier etc. I'm a strong addict of ET though and play with [Gentoo] prefix so this community can tell I'm one of them. ;-) Would you say AA is good enough to go through registration? If so, I might give it a try. Take care. Dhruba. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on RAID1 and Grub
Thomas Robers wrote: MAL schrieb: Is this when you set your BIOS to boot the second disk? Hi, this happens in both cases: when I set the bios to boot from the second disk and when I disconnect the first disk from the IDE Bus and the system boots automatically from the second disk. The second disk is slave on the secondary IDE connector (i.e. /dev/hdd) after the cdrom drive. Could this cause problems? The disks are from IBM and WD, but i think different disks of the same size shouldn't be a problem? Using different drives in a software raid setup isn't a good idea, as they have different response times, and therefore don't run very well in unison. Far more importantly though, is the fact that you have one disk as a slave to a CD-ROM. This will slow the disk down to the DMA speed of the CD drive, and will thoroughly interrupt the throughput of the RAID array when the CD-ROM is used. As far as the boot problem's concerned, it should work as long as there are only two hard disk drives in the system. From the fact that you get GRUB printed continuously, it would appear that grub has not been installed correctly, or can't access it's grub.conf. Remember, if drive 1 is disconnected, drive 2 becomes (hd0) in grub.conf! MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ide Ata raid
Hello any body has configured an ide ata raid with gentoo on any dl320 g2 ? My trouble are on the ata raid controller, when i boot with live cd the controller not work, and not whow me the disk array as one volume? any idea to detect this ata raid ? I find on this location but here only have red hat drivers: http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/17804.html Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] procmail compile failure
Procmail-3.22-r6 failed to emerge with the complaint: sublib.o: file not recognised: File truncated collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Can anyone assist please? Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb printing.
That seems to be the problem, i don't have those modules. I have an MSI nforce2 mother board, i'm not sure what usb hci modules to compile.. Ill look around the web a bit, thanks. Jeff. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 00:52, Richard Kilgore wrote: Have you loaded a module for the host controller? For USB 2.0, do: modprobe ehci-hcd and for USB 1.0 you'll need one of the following: modprobe uhci modprobe usb-uhci modprobe usb-ohci depending on your motherboard. - richard On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 22:17, Jeff MacDonald wrote: Hi, I have a HP Deskjet 932 c [usb] I have the USB stuff compiled as modules and when i do modprobe usbcore modprobe printer they both load fine. When i plug in my printer, nothing interesting happens in /var/log/messages or /dev/usb Anywhere else i should be looking ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB or Gnome problem
Hi, I have a strange USB/Gnome problem. It all started after reinstalling my laptop. If i mount my digital camera in Gnome 2.4 and browse to the folder where the images are my laptop just freezes. If i do the same without Gnome loaded, all works fine and i can copy the images to the hard drive. usb-ohci 19976 0 (unused) ehci-hcd 15848 0 (unused) usbcore65088 1 [visor scanner usbserial usbmouse printer usb- storage hid usb-ohci ehci-hcd] hub.c: new USB device 00:03.2-1, assigned address 3 WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB Mass Storage device found at 3 hub.c: new USB device 00:03.2-1, assigned address 2 scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: Sony Model: Sony DSC Rev: 4.01 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured Anyone a idee Patrick -- Insufficient facts always invite danger. -- Spock, Space Seed, stardate 3141.9 PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Marshal Newrock -- This still leaves the issue of replicating the mail storage itself, of course. I don't know how it would affect quotas, either. Also, you will want to use an LDAP or SQL backend for user info storage, to easily replicate all changes to all the servers. This does give the advantage that if the primary mail server is down, mail won't be stored (where users probably won't be able to get to it) on the backup server. That could be an interesting problem to fix if you're using mbox. Nono, I am sure I will use maildir ;) Would it be possible to to store all mails themself in a MySQL db, instead of the filesystem? Greetings, Matthias -- Homer: All right, Herb. I'll lend you the 2,000 bucks. But you have to forgive me and treat me like a brother. Herb: Nope. Homer: All right, then, just give me the drinking bird. Brother Can You Spare Two Dimes? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Invalid db entry
Hello. Unmerging packages in my system shows messages about invalid db entry. For example: # emerge unmerge mozilla-firebird !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.7.portage_lockfile How can this be corrected? Romildo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problems updating transcode
Hello all, I get the following error when upgrading transcode /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libtcavcodec.a(ratecontrol.o)(.text+0xb92): In function `ff_rate_estimate_qscale': /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/ratecontrol.c:574: undefined reference to `mm_flags' /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libtcavcodec.a(ratecontrol.o)(.text+0x25e2): In function `ff_rate_control_uninit': /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/ratecontrol.c:179: undefined reference to `mm_flags' /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libtcavcodec.a(dv.o)(.text+0x698): In function `dvvideo_decode_frame': /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/dv.c:620: undefined reference to `mm_flags' /data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/libtcavcodec.a(vp3.o)(.text+0x32b2):/data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/ffmpeg/libavcodec/vp3.c:2208: more undefined references to `mm_flags' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [tcdecode] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/import' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10/import' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/data/dvdrip/portage/transcode-0.6.10/work/transcode-0.6.10' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/transcode-0.6.10 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 115, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) Can anyone help? Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't compile PHP 4.3.3-r1
Hello, I've checked my CHOST. It is CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu and even with CFLAGS set to -march=i686 it fails :-/ I have the problem with a P4 box... I don't understand... Any ideas?? Thanks Benoit Le Vendredi 17 Octobre 2003 11:48, Dennis Freise a écrit : Hello All, Hi. configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling If anybody has an idea... Your compiler wants to cross-compile for another platform, and tests are not supported for cross-compiling. My guess is, that you have changed your CHOST in a non-stage-1 installation or that your CFLAGS contain some garbage, which make the compiler think of cross-compiling. Double check both of these conditions, please. Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Disobedience: The silver lining to the cloud of servitude. -- Ambrose Bierce -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems updating transcode
hi christian Christian Herzyk wrote: I get the following error when upgrading transcode Can anyone help? we had this topic already twice this week! env USE=mmx emerge transcode cheers, eric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Japanesse cdrom
mnnn... I ripped all my cds to mp3 and haven't used the actual cd in the pc since a long time ago. Actually I don't know why I was trying to mount it, think I remember one time using konqueror in Mandrake or Redhat to read audio cds. thanks And just what would lead you to believe that you can mount an audio or video cd that has no filesystem? mount is for filesystems!!! memorize this please! For other types of cd's, you just play them (unmounted) with the appropriate software, e.g. mplayer xmms, etc., etc. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Nono, I am sure I will use maildir ;) Would it be possible to to store all mails themself in a MySQL db, instead of the filesystem? Possible, yes. Desirable is another question. The downside can see seen as this: maildir: corrupt a file, lose one message mbox: corrupt a file, lose all of one user's mail (manual reconstruction is possible). mysql: corrupt a file...lose *all* mail. I've never tried to reconstruct a corrupted database, so I don't know if it's possible. You can probably find more about using a mysql backend with postfix in the postfix-user list archives. -- Marshal Newrock, unemployed Linux user in Lansing, MI Caution: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Marshal Newrock -- Possible, yes. Desirable is another question. The downside can see seen as this: maildir: corrupt a file, lose one message mbox: corrupt a file, lose all of one user's mail (manual reconstruction is possible). mysql: corrupt a file...lose *all* mail. I've never tried to reconstruct a corrupted database, so I don't know if it's possible. Ok you're right, that's true ... what brings me back to my original question: How to provide one central storage (MySQL, Filesystem (via NFS?) or whatever) for all mails and all mail servers? -- Homer: Here's your magazines. How many of these guys are named Corey? Lisa: Eight. Thanks, Dad. Bart's Dog Gets An F -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Odd problem of crashing (2.6.x)
Hello Recently, my computer has been hanging irrecoverably and I don't know why. I've been 2.6 series kernels for some time and they worked perfectly until I migrated to test7. Here's what I happens. I log into enlightenment using XDM. I do my work. I log out enlightenment back into XDM. However, somewhere in between starting to log out and getting to the XDM login screen the computer freezes completely with garbled colours on screen. Nothing works (Ctrl-Backspace, Alt-F1, etc) and I have to hard reset. (I should mention that I'm using framebuffer with vesafb enabled). Admittedly, problems do occur when on ~x86 using latest snapshots of gcc 3.3.1-r5 and glibc 2.3.2-r6 together with 2.6 kernels but all this has been working fine for some time. I can't pinpoint what may be causing it. How do I even begin to debug this problem? It happens virtually every time I log out of E. Some minor configuration is corrupted every time this happens and I'm afraid of more severe data loss. Any help would be much appreciated. -- Dhruba Bandopadhyay | dhruba.AT.codewordt.co.uk ICQ: 31628525 | MSN: bdhruba.AT.msn.com P.S. Reply-To not set. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Ok you're right, that's true ... what brings me back to my original question: How to provide one central storage (MySQL, Filesystem (via NFS?) or whatever) for all mails and all mail servers? Have you considered coda (http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/), a replicating network filesystem. I've never used it or looked at it in detail, other than seeing it in the network filesystem options in the kernel, so you'll have to see if it's what you want. Though if it's as good as it sounds, it's undoubtedly safer than raid1 over NFS. -- Marshal Newrock, unemployed Linux user in Lansing, MI Caution: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb printing.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:30:34AM -0300, Jeff MacDonald wrote: That seems to be the problem, i don't have those modules. I have an MSI nforce2 mother board, i'm not sure what usb hci modules to compile.. Ill look around the web a bit, thanks. Jeff. Jeff, It probably won't hurt you to compile all of them, and then try one of them at a time. Also, from looking at my lsmod output, it looks like the ehci-hcd module and any one of the others can co-exist. - richard On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 00:52, Richard Kilgore wrote: Have you loaded a module for the host controller? For USB 2.0, do: modprobe ehci-hcd and for USB 1.0 you'll need one of the following: modprobe uhci modprobe usb-uhci modprobe usb-ohci depending on your motherboard. - richard On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 22:17, Jeff MacDonald wrote: Hi, I have a HP Deskjet 932 c [usb] I have the USB stuff compiled as modules and when i do modprobe usbcore modprobe printer they both load fine. When i plug in my printer, nothing interesting happens in /var/log/messages or /dev/usb Anywhere else i should be looking ? -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Marshal Newrock -- Have you considered coda (http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/), a replicating network filesystem. I've never used it or looked at it in detail, other than seeing it in the network filesystem options in the kernel, so you'll have to see if it's what you want. Though if it's as good as it sounds, it's undoubtedly safer than raid1 over NFS. Ok, thanks for your tip! I will look at it and see if it could be done with coda... Greets, Matthias -- Flanders: Homer, affordable tract housing made us neighbors, but you made us friends. Homer: To Ned Flanders, the richest left-handed man in town. When Flanders Failed -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 15:16, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Ok, thanks for your tip! I will look at it and see if it could be done with coda... Are you considering using coda between fileserver and front end mail servers? I'd be quite scared of doing that, because: disk. Coda has several advantages over NFS: support for disconnected operation (e.g. for laptops), read/write server replication, security model for authentication and encryption, persistent client caches and write back caching. OK, so disconnected operation is great for a laptop, but bad bad news for a farm of mail servers, with any mailbox format, especially maildir, as they'd very quickly get into a inconsistant state. In theory, if you hard mount an NFS share and the server goes away the client will just hang, until the server reappears. Doubly in theory if a secondary server (the previously mentioned DRBD mirror of it) does some arp magic and steals the primaries IP NFS will reconnect fail the transfer try again, or bounce the message with a temporary problem. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/j/7QInuLMrk7bIwRAo+1AJ47OiOuFfx/S3cRQLUv42nsl+eB7wCfaUkB W1sqdGF/P07SLkVLr2fe5H4= =MDCw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Mike Williams -- OK, so disconnected operation is great for a laptop, but bad bad news for a farm of mail servers, with any mailbox format, especially maildir, as they'd very quickly get into a inconsistant state. In theory, if you hard mount an NFS share and the server goes away the client will just hang, until the server reappears. Doubly in theory if a secondary server (the previously mentioned DRBD mirror of it) does some arp magic and steals the primaries IP NFS will reconnect fail the transfer try again, or bounce the message with a temporary problem. Hmm.. Ok, that's a good point. But then I still have the problem with the central mail storage :( Thx to Peter Gnodde, he pointed me to dbmail [1], which is a project to store mails into a (My)SQL database, I will check that out... Greetings, Matthias footnote: [1] http://www.dbmail.org -- Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless. -- Homer Simpson Homer the Vigilante -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 15:49, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hmm.. Ok, that's a good point. But then I still have the problem with the central mail storage :( What's wrong with NFS? Hell, I've run a system with 16 machines doing mail all sharing an NFS export and mbox's! - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/kAPKInuLMrk7bIwRAt5lAJ4sOg4LkZA98qYnP/BU1ha3O7HqrACYvqSa pxKGZse6gJjqB/ofM4pK8A== =Ljfy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
Problem with nfs, if the nfs server system goes down, ALL of it goes down. I think they are looking for a solution that if any of the servers go down, the other machine can take over as if it was the only server.. On Friday 17 October 2003 15:49, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hmm.. Ok, that's a good point. But then I still have the problem with the central mail storage :( What's wrong with NFS? Hell, I've run a system with 16 machines doing mail all sharing an NFS export and mbox's!
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Jeffrey Smelser -- Problem with nfs, if the nfs server system goes down, ALL of it goes down. I think they are looking for a solution that if any of the servers go down, the other machine can take over as if it was the only server.. Exactly! But I could implement a backup server of the NFS store heh :) Na, it seems the only (?) solution would be a regular sync between the two machines... let's see Greets, Matthias -- And thank you most of all for nuclear power, which is yet to cause a single proven fatality, at least in this country. -- Homer Simpson Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
Matthias F. Brandstetter: Exactly! But I could implement a backup server of the NFS store heh :) Na, it seems the only (?) solution would be a regular sync between the two machines... let's see Have you looked at gfs or opengfs? -- Magnus Nordseth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
I don't disagree.. I use nfs for a lot of common things.. no different that using a raid server for common disk space. But they seem to want some sort of sync thing going on.. -- quoting Jeffrey Smelser -- Problem with nfs, if the nfs server system goes down, ALL of it goes down. I think they are looking for a solution that if any of the servers go down, the other machine can take over as if it was the only server.. Exactly! But I could implement a backup server of the NFS store heh :) Na, it seems the only (?) solution would be a regular sync between the two machines... let's see Greets, Matthias
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Magnus Nordseth -- Have you looked at gfs or opengfs? No, never heard of that though ... What is it, what does it? Do you have an URL for it? Greetings, Matthias -- Now, son, you don't want to drink beer. That's for daddys, and kids with fake IDs. -- Homer Simpson The Springfield Files -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
opengfs.sourceforge.net Its a clustered FS.. -- quoting Magnus Nordseth -- Have you looked at gfs or opengfs? No, never heard of that though ... What is it, what does it? Do you have an URL for it? Greetings, Matthias -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid db entry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Unmerging packages in my system shows messages about invalid db entry. For example: # emerge unmerge mozilla-firebird !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.7.portage_lockfile How can this be corrected? I've been seeing this a lot the past week or so. It doesn't seem to affect anything, so until it does, I wouldn't worry about it. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Jeffrey Smelser -- opengfs.sourceforge.net Hmm... it seems to be somewhat untested, no succ. installs on their site. Have you ever tried it, would you use it on a production environment? -- Boy, I don't know. You gotta be pretty desperate to make it with a robot. -- Homer Simpson Selma's Choice -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 16:06, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Exactly! But I could implement a backup server of the NFS store heh :) Na, it seems the only (?) solution would be a regular sync between the two machines... let's see Did you miss my post about DRBD? Heartbeat between the server and a nominated failover. Primary fails failover takes over the primaries IP via ARP clients are none the wiser. The failover (and primary) can still function as mail servers too. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kAk7InuLMrk7bIwRAsT3AKCham68fd6ZQ3KWvhaWF4/6Z/ovLgCffh8E VF8oYyrl9uNMqgenStafFjY= =a2ob -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
No, I just read it myself.. I would have to do some more research before I would go messing with it.. Its a overkill for what I do though. Nfs shares for my backup drive and usr/portage doesn't seem to me to need a clusterfs.. Nfs is good enough for me.. Someone else would have to chime in on that one. -- quoting Jeffrey Smelser -- opengfs.sourceforge.net Hmm... it seems to be somewhat untested, no succ. installs on their site. Have you ever tried it, would you use it on a production environment? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just wanted something different. I'm now using KDE 3.1.4 and am disappointed... My preferred desktop still seems to be Enlightenment, in fact. :-) So, I'm considering getting rid of KDE and going back to Gnome. What do people think ?? I know it's *my* choice, of course. If I decide to switch, how do I do so and get the LATEST gnome stuff available ?? I'm not afraid of running unstable, which I believe is the -x86 flagged stuff. Also, how would I purge all KDE stuff ?? I do like Konqueror and KMail. Are static-linked packages available for those ?? Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-- quoting Mike Williams -- Did you miss my post about DRBD? Hmm seems so, sorry! What is this DRBD? Heartbeat between the server and a nominated failover. Primary fails failover takes over the primaries IP via ARP clients are none the wiser. The failover (and primary) can still function as mail servers too. Heard of that and looked at their website, I think I will try this hearbeat, looks good. Do you have some (good) experience with it -- does it work as it should? Please remember, I plan to use it on a production system... -- Jeez. No beer ... no opera dogs ... -- Homer Simpson Bart the Genius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
Matthias F. Brandstetter: No, never heard of that though ... What is it, what does it? Do you have an URL for it? gfs is a commercial product. You can find more info at http://www.sistina.com -- Magnus Nordseth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
- Original Message - From: Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ? | | It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried In that case, this distro would be an exception :-) It is purported that Gentoo is ultimately about providing maximum choice to the user and you'll find that amongst the users there is a split between the two large desktop environments along with fluxbox which also has quite a large share. (I use none of these.) | KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may | have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just | wanted something different. | | I'm now using KDE 3.1.4 and am disappointed... My preferred desktop still | seems to be Enlightenment, in fact. :-) So, I'm considering getting rid of | KDE and going back to Gnome. | | What do people think ?? I know it's *my* choice, of course. If I decide to | switch, how do I do so and get the LATEST gnome stuff available ?? I'm not To get latest gnome stuff do: (1) edit /etc/make.conf to set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 (2) emerge sync (3) emerge gnome Gnome 2.4 is marked stable atm which means you'll get it regardless of which tree you are on. My view? Stay with enlightenment ;-) | afraid of running unstable, which I believe is the -x86 flagged stuff. The most cutting edge branch of applications is referred to as the 'testing tree' and not 'unstable tree' simply because that is what it is intended to convey to the user. The correct variable value is actually ~x86 and not -x86. | | Also, how would I purge all KDE stuff ?? I do like Konqueror and KMail. Are | static-linked packages available for those ?? There is no official method of removing a package and all its unused dependencies as yet. This is still being worked upon and has been pushed back a little bit. So, you'll have to do it manually. `emerge -C kde` will remove the package itself and then there are all sorts of tricks to get rid of dependencies some of which are mentioned below. -- remove all kde references from /var/cache/edb/world and do `emerge --depclean -p` and remove those (OR) -- `emerge gentoolkit dep-clean -UNR` (OR) -- `emerge -Dep world | grep kde` (and then remove those) I'd also recommend familiarising yourself with the various wonders of etcat and qpkg from gentoolkit. HTH. | | Regards | Hall | | | -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list | | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:37:32AM +, Hall Stevenson wrote: It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just wanted something different. Been there, done that on both counts. I've often tried a different desktop environment, been impressed with the new eye candy or features for a bit, and then gone back to my favorite because the new one has things that I either just don't like or is missing features. Been about a year since I first discovered gentoo as well, but I remember that with debian you had to add lots of different apt-sources lines to get the latest and greatest of things. What do people think ?? I know it's *my* choice, of course. If I decide to switch, how do I do so and get the LATEST gnome stuff available ?? I'm not afraid of running unstable, which I believe is the -x86 flagged stuff. Gnome 2.4 is in portage, and was put there probably less than a week after it was released. The impression I get from the gentoo people is that both gnome and kde camps have equally dedicated people working in them to get the latest packages stable and out the door. They don't lag nearly as much as debian but don't seem (that I've seen anyway) to have big ugly bugs resulting from putting stuff out the door too quickly. Personally what I do is if something isn't released soon enough I either put on ~86 for that package or do an emerge of the .ebuild file that I'm wanting. Portage makes it easy to revert and move back and forth between versions without too many ugly remnants of old packages. Also, how would I purge all KDE stuff ?? I do like Konqueror and KMail. Are static-linked packages available for those ?? Check the list archives and forums, I know there are cute one liners for doing this but I don't remember them now. emerge -epv kde will show you *all* of KDEs dependancies though. As for static linked packages, do an emerge -pv for the packages and there may be a static USE flag you can use. If not you'll have to leave qt and the kdelibs packages installed (unless someone else has bright ideas). -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 16:32, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hmm seems so, sorry! What is this DRBD? Think of it as network raid1 (mirroring), it's in portage. Heartbeat between the server and a nominated failover. Primary fails failover takes over the primaries IP via ARP clients are none the wiser. The failover (and primary) can still function as mail servers too. Heard of that and looked at their website, I think I will try this hearbeat, looks good. Do you have some (good) experience with it -- does it work as it should? Please remember, I plan to use it on a production system... I used it in a production system (the 16 node cluster) with 2 fileservers best part of 3 years ago! Around the time 2.4 was out, which made the installation of DRBD difficult, as the patches weren't fully upto date or tested. It all worked flawlessly for more than 6 months heavy use, shame the admin who actually set it up fscked up the failover part. Can't actually remember what happened to the primary, but I do remember that it took little more than a reboot to fix. I'll be setting up a proper system in the next few weeks, hopefully, earlier if I can swipe a working hard drive to get my pair of k6-2 350's I managed to salvage going. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kA/WInuLMrk7bIwRAr70AJwLFrDPEebJwUsGwVJWB15RoFKa2gCfU2Bd aA3FU+R/fSL75heIl0youcY= =zR5S -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
Hall Stevenson wrote: It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just wanted something different. I have never really been a KDE fan, although I have been using it on my gentoo workstation as I had problems getting Gnome to work properly. I have to say its far to 'busy' for my tastes, would love to purge all the bundled 'everything and the kitchen sink' stuff I am just never going to use. I have just got Gnome working and it feels much faster so maybe I will just let KDE rot and use that. That said, I do feel like trying some of the *box *step WM's. So maybe I will just install everything :P Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:59:22PM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 15:49, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hmm.. Ok, that's a good point. But then I still have the problem with the central mail storage :( What's wrong with NFS? Hell, I've run a system with 16 machines doing mail all sharing an NFS export and mbox's! It doesn't scale (with mbox) to hundreds of machines, and many implementations of NFS on non-linux systems don't implement file-locking properly, which especially hurts mbox. Doing maildir over NFS is a perfectly valid way to do this, but you end up with at least three boxes... a highly redundant NFS file server and mail servers tied to it. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:43:32AM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: Now the kicker, D R B D ! Network raid 1, and heartbeat to watch over it. It seems the guy planning it (windows code monkey) wants to use Exim, due to native TLS, bleh. Oh, and debian, bleeeh. Smart guy. Ultra-stable, easy upgrades between major releases. Exim is very rarely attacked by script kiddies and it's fast and easy to add on things like scanners and system filters. Unless you need virtual domains, it's a very good design choice. Otherwise I'd use qmail and vpopmail. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
No, Gentoo really show's no preference in this arena which is very nice if you asked me. I much prefer it this way. I use KDE on my machines since it screams on gentoo. I have no speed issues whatsoever with kde. Sure, fluxbox, icewm are going to blow the pants off of KDE or Gnome but it all depends on what you like. If simple is your thing then KDE might not be for you. This is the beauty of Linux and OSS, in that you have freedom. On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:32, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: Hall Stevenson wrote: It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just wanted something different. I have never really been a KDE fan, although I have been using it on my gentoo workstation as I had problems getting Gnome to work properly. I have to say its far to 'busy' for my tastes, would love to purge all the bundled 'everything and the kitchen sink' stuff I am just never going to use. I have just got Gnome working and it feels much faster so maybe I will just let KDE rot and use that. That said, I do feel like trying some of the *box *step WM's. So maybe I will just install everything :P Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:37:32 + Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. Gentoo leans towards fluxbox and/or xfce :) | I'm not afraid of running unstable, which I believe is the -x86 | flagged stuff. ~x86, not -x86. The '-' means does not work on this arch and is generally reserved for things like silo (the Sparc bootloader which you definitely shouldn't run on an x86 box)... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at firedrop.org.uk Web:www.firedrop.org.uk System: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.10p1 Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 17:34, Nate Duehr wrote: It doesn't scale (with mbox) to hundreds of machines, and many implementations of NFS on non-linux systems don't implement file-locking properly, which especially hurts mbox. Oh aye, the exclamation mark was to bring home the point that it was a pretty silly thing to do, but it worked. Doing maildir over NFS is a perfectly valid way to do this, but you end up with at least three boxes... a highly redundant NFS file server and mail servers tied to it. Not necessarily. You *can* do it with just one box (no redundancy), or 2 boxes (failover mailstore, and backup MX), or 3, or 4, or 5, or .. Apart from the load, or any monetary issues, I see no reason why a fileserver can't do mail too. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kBzYInuLMrk7bIwRAsVOAKCZIR7OZpLyVwEpcAnRuIg5K582PACgg8SL 6lW8r2wYVF1NxhprBfCdRws= =Bhad -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 04:50:46PM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: It all worked flawlessly for more than 6 months heavy use, shame the admin who actually set it up fscked up the failover part. Can't actually remember what happened to the primary, but I do remember that it took little more than a reboot to fix. Sounds like he didn't TEST it. Typical newbie bug. If you set up failover and don't test it, you don't really have failover. Same thing with backups. See www.linux-ha.org for all sorts of Linux High-Availability projects. But remember, simple is good. Complex is bad. maildir over NFS with rsync to another machine that could take over manually is probably sufficient for most people's needs. If the boss wants better than that buy a real network storage device with super-availability and show via costs that to have that kind of uptime takes $. Managers/customers understand. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
That said, I do feel like trying some of the *box *step WM's. So maybe I will just install everything :P Rick Rick, I have sort of different needs since I'm doing audio recording under Linux and wanted a really minimal running-process count. fluxbox has worked well for me. I do, at time, miss being able to drop a shortcut on my desktop like Windows and KDE. I haven't used Gnome in a couple of years now so I cannot comment on that. As long as you don't mind a mouse-based menu way of working (I know some do...) then fluxbox is a really clean way to go. Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 17:40, Nate Duehr wrote: Now the kicker, D R B D ! Network raid 1, and heartbeat to watch over it. It seems the guy planning it (windows code monkey) wants to use Exim, due to native TLS, bleh. Oh, and debian, bleeeh. Smart guy. Ultra-stable, easy upgrades between major releases. Exim is very rarely attacked by script kiddies and it's fast and easy to add on things like scanners and system filters. Unless you need virtual domains, it's a very good design choice. Otherwise I'd use qmail and vpopmail. He is actually a very smart guy (too smart really, he heads off into the obscurities of windows, so I don't argue with him :P), backed up by a smart linux sysadmin :o) Ultra-stable and ultra out of date. Gentoo can be/is as stable as any Linux OS, if properly looked after, and doesn't suffer from horrible binary dependancies. But that's another arguement :) We do need virtual domains, but Exim can do this too. Gentoo's qmail also applies the TLS patch with the ssl use flag, and qmailscanner is dead cool. I will convert him :o) - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/kB53InuLMrk7bIwRAoyGAJ9Ifh7kMZKh/eyNsSY2xXq6vjpioACYpLol MHEwkn7eB7Ur3GYtGgr84A== =NyvC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:07:32 +0100 (BST) Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Ian Truelsen On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:53:36 +0100 (BST) Done and done. I am using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ian $ glxgears 3856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 771.200 FPS 4194 frames in 5.0 seconds = 838.800 FPS 4094 frames in 5.0 seconds = 818.800 FPS 4107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 821.400 FPS 4153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 830.600 FPS I don't know how those match up to others, but it certainly is faster than my old Voodoo. Here's what I get. $ glxgears 6789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1357.800 FPS 7051 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1410.200 FPS 6977 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1395.400 FPS 6962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.400 FPS 6963 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.600 FPS Same card. Quite odd eh? :-\ Quite odd. I wonder if there is anything that I can be doing to get faster performance. Not that I'm complaining, but I might as well get all that I can. Nvidia makes no changes to fonts AFAIK. You know, I've always been put off american army because of the extensive preparation of registering your soldier etc. I'm a strong addict of ET though and play with [Gentoo] prefix so this community can tell I'm one of them. ;-) Would you say AA is good enough to go through registration? If so, I might give it a try. So far, I have only gone through the training section of it. I don't know how good it is in game play. I'll let you know. I have tried et, but I am almost pathetically bad at it, but the game play seems pretty good. Other than constantly getting my head blown off that is :) -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
If you want to be able to put shortcut-like links on your fluxbox desktop, take a look at idesk (under x11-misc/idesk in portage). Mark Knecht ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: That said, I do feel like trying some of the *box *step WM's. So maybe I will just install everything :P Rick Rick, I have sort of different needs since I'm doing audio recording under Linux and wanted a really minimal running-process count. fluxbox has worked well for me. I do, at time, miss being able to drop a shortcut on my desktop like Windows and KDE. I haven't used Gnome in a couple of years now so I cannot comment on that. As long as you don't mind a mouse-based menu way of working (I know some do...) then fluxbox is a really clean way to go. Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: cd burner for gnome
Hello all! I have been looking for a good cd burning utility for gnome for a while with no luck. I like k3b, but I'm not such a big fan of qt/kde. I have been using command line tools and Xcdroast, and I was wondering if there was something out there that's better. Suggestions? TIA! Jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: cd burner for gnome
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:35:57AM -0700, Jon Ellis wrote: Hello all! I have been looking for a good cd burning utility for gnome for a while with no luck. I like k3b, but I'm not such a big fan of qt/kde. I have been using command line tools and Xcdroast, and I was wondering if there was something out there that's better. Suggestions? TIA! Well, there are some possibilities. GNOME 2.4 has cd burning built into nautilus. This is a bit limited however as it doesn't have the options for things like bin/cue, audio or data, etc. Basically it will burn data to a cd or burn an ISO image to a cd (from what I've seen anyway). gtoaster - gnome 1.4 app for burning data. Quite nice. gcdmaster - frontend for cdrdao - burn bin/cue, copy cds, etc. Not sure of something like k3b for doing audio though. Anyone know of others? -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Which packages to reemerge for +xinerama?
Hi I will soon have a dual-monitor setup. I have changed the USE flags to include xinerama. I had presumed that I would need to reemerge xfree, then make changes to XF86Config, but I see that xfree does not look at the xinerama flag: bash-2.05b# etcat -u xfree [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags] [ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ] U I [ Found these USE variables in : x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 ] - - 3dfx : Adds support for 3dfx video cards to XFree86. See: voodoo3 + + sse : fast floating point optimisation for Pentium class chips - + mmx : Adds support for optimizations for Pentium MMX and Athlon class processors - - 3dnow: Adds support for 3dnow multimedia processor instructions + + xml2 : Check/Support flag for XML library (version 2) + + truetype : Adds support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts + + nls : unknown - - cjk : Adds support for Multi-byte character languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) - - doc : Adds extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc) - - ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6 - - debug: Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary acrosss packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES+=nostrip too. - - static : !!do not set this during bootstrap!! Causes things to be statically linked instead of dynamically + + pam : Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - - sdk : unknown - - gatos: unknown So, which packages would I need to reemerge after changing the xinerama flag, or, more generally, is there an easy way to get a list of packages that are affected by a change of a USE flag? Regards, -- Jim Washington -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:32:55PM +0100, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: I have never really been a KDE fan, although I have been using it on my gentoo workstation as I had problems getting Gnome to work properly. I have to say its far to 'busy' for my tastes, would love to purge all the bundled 'everything and the kitchen sink' stuff I am just never going to use. You might want to give xfce a try. The latest xfce is version 4, and, although I don't personally use it, I thought it was pretty slick. It's a desktop environment like GNOME and KDE, but certainly more lightweight (not as many bells and whistles). It's somewhere between a standalone window manager and a heavyweight desktop environment. :) MG -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
www.xfce.org is a good place to check it out actually.. On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:32:55PM +0100, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: I have never really been a KDE fan, although I have been using it on my gentoo workstation as I had problems getting Gnome to work properly. I have to say its far to 'busy' for my tastes, would love to purge all the bundled 'everything and the kitchen sink' stuff I am just never going to use. You might want to give xfce a try. The latest xfce is version 4, and, although I don't personally use it, I thought it was pretty slick. It's a desktop environment like GNOME and KDE, but certainly more lightweight (not as many bells and whistles). It's somewhere between a standalone window manager and a heavyweight desktop environment. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ?
Hi all, by mistake I did a mke2fs -j on my home partition:( is there any way I can recover the data ? I haven't written anything on it yet. R'twick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail or Postfix Cluster -- how?
Nate Duehr wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:59:22PM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 15:49, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hmm.. Ok, that's a good point. But then I still have the problem with the central mail storage :( What's wrong with NFS? Hell, I've run a system with 16 machines doing mail all sharing an NFS export and mbox's! It doesn't scale (with mbox) to hundreds of machines, and many implementations of NFS on non-linux systems don't implement file-locking properly, which especially hurts mbox. On the systems I manage at work we share mail (with-mbox) to over 130 machines via NFS without breaking a sweat. We support another several hundred users via imap and pop. Broken NFS is largly a thing of the past (or non Sun/Linux/BSD Unix). Doing maildir over NFS is a perfectly valid way to do this, but you end up with at least three boxes... a highly redundant NFS file server and mail servers tied to it. Or just run Sun hardware (with solaris)... If a CPU/memory module fails it is simply turned off and the system continues to work. And like any modern OS, use Raid for the mail. Run the raid off of an external storage rack/case. If you machine explodes unplug raid box and plug into backup. Keeping mailserver config files synced between 2 boxes is simple. I don't understand why mail can't be offline for several hours while a server is repaired? Automatic failover is more trouble than it's worth when all were talking about is mail. One big box isn't such a bad thing... Just keep spare parts around in case something goes wrong (or an entire spare machine). Always use raid for important data (like mail) along with regular backups. -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which packages to reemerge for +xinerama?
On Friday 17 October 2003 20:00, Jim Washington wrote: Hi Hi! I will soon have a dual-monitor setup. I have changed the USE flags to include xinerama. I had presumed that I would need to reemerge xfree, then make changes to XF86Config, but I see that xfree does not look at the xinerama flag: So, which packages would I need to reemerge after changing the xinerama flag, or, more generally, is there an easy way to get a list of packages that are affected by a change of a USE flag? I don't know if this is the recommended way, but I would try it like this: emerge -pev world |grep xinerama Matthias -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ?
you might get a few utilities, but I did that not to long ago, and it was just faster to use my backup and restore it, only took about 5-10 mins to get home back since I back the entire thing up.. Btw, I don't think there are any 'linux' utilities for this, you might get some software vender type stuff though. I take it you don't do backups? shame shame.. ;) Hi all, by mistake I did a mke2fs -j on my home partition:( is there any way I can recover the data ? I haven't written anything on it yet. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
If you want to be able to put shortcut-like links on your fluxbox desktop, take a look at idesk (under x11-misc/idesk in portage). Thanks for the pointer. I'll check it out this weekend. In terms of the desktop, the only two things I miss once in awhile is having a shortcut to an application, which you may have solved for me, and sometimes doing a temporary drag and drop of a file from an email to the desktop and working with it in an application before I put it away. I record and work with other people in other small studios. They send me mp3s. I'll want to drop them on the desktop and listen multiple times over a period of a few days. (Songs sound different at different times of the day or night, and whether you're listening through studio monitors or headphones. Having these files on my desktop keeps me focused on them, as opposed to forgetting them when they get buried in a stack of emails. However, FAR more important with recording is having no processes running that get in the way. fluxbox is just great in this area. I love it. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ?
Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the reply. Jeffrey Smelser said the following on 10/17/2003 2:20 PM you might get a few utilities, but I did that not to long ago, and it was just faster to use my backup and restore it, only took about 5-10 mins to get home back since I back the entire thing up.. Btw, I don't think there are any 'linux' utilities for this, you might get some software vender type stuff though. I take it you don't do backups? shame shame.. ;) right I didn't take any backups before. I usually keep my home partition in sync on my laptop as well as desktop.. however, last week I had to format my laptop to install windows as my job required me to have a windows box :( I did bought a new disk to use it as a permanent backup drive and was going to format it .. but instead of formatting it, I formatted the home dir. Don't know what I was thinking at that time. may be because its a friday and my brain stopped working. I found somethig called R-linux from http://www.r-tt.com but not sure if it will work. I'll try to use it and see if I can get anything. luckily enough though all my mails are saved on my work computer(windows) in mozilla thunderbird. Hopefully, I can import them to linux mozilla? apart from the mails, there's not many important stuff lost, just some programs I worte and so I think I can write them again though it will take some time. R'twick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which packages to reemerge for +xinerama?
Matthias Schwarzott wrote: I don't know if this is the recommended way, but I would try it like this: emerge -pev world |grep xinerama Many thanks! This seems to do the trick. -- Jim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ?
yeah, I thought there might be some kind of vendor doing it. I just don't think there are any 'linux' utils native that do it.. I don't know anything above X in linux as I have yet to venture that way besides a few times I have grown balls enough to install x here and there. so someone else will have to help you onthe mozilla thing.. if you have progs on home, you should really be doing a tar -cvf (-j/z) every night on it.. I can't tell you home many times I have restored a prog just because I try to make a big change and realize I got over my head with an idea of mine and needed a backup of it.. OR simply just got to crazy with the rm command that day for some stupid reason. -Original Message- From: R'twick Niceorgaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ? Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the reply. Jeffrey Smelser said the following on 10/17/2003 2:20 PM you might get a few utilities, but I did that not to long ago, and it was just faster to use my backup and restore it, only took about 5-10 mins to get home back since I back the entire thing up.. Btw, I don't think there are any 'linux' utilities for this, you might get some software vender type stuff though. I take it you don't do backups? shame shame.. ;) right I didn't take any backups before. I usually keep my home partition in sync on my laptop as well as desktop.. however, last week I had to format my laptop to install windows as my job required me to have a windows box :( I did bought a new disk to use it as a permanent backup drive and was going to format it .. but instead of formatting it, I formatted the home dir. Don't know what I was thinking at that time. may be because its a friday and my brain stopped working. I found somethig called R-linux from http://www.r-tt.com but not sure if it will work. I'll try to use it and see if I can get anything. luckily enough though all my mails are saved on my work computer(windows) in mozilla thunderbird. Hopefully, I can import them to linux mozilla? apart from the mails, there's not many important stuff lost, just some programs I worte and so I think I can write them again though it will take some time. R'twick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] xmms and gnome?
Why do I make emerge -p xmms and see a lot of Gnome 1 libraries? Even ~x86 doesn't help. I'm forced to USE=-gnome to be able to install it... Are there plans for a Gnome-2 based xmms ebuild? Abilio -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which packages to reemerge for +xinerama?
Jim Washington wrote: So, which packages would I need to reemerge after changing the xinerama flag, or, more generally, is there an easy way to get a list of packages that are affected by a change of a USE flag? cd /var/db/pkg grep xinerama */*/IUSE -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] usb printer (epson cx5200) mystery
this past weekend i managed to get my epson cx5200 usb printer to print a test page and the cups test page from gnome. for a different reason, i had to disconnect and reconnect all of the cables on my machine. after that i have not been able to print the test page and cups test page. cups acts as though it has printed the page and throws no errors. i used usbview to make sure my printer was there and it was there. i tried switching the page definitions. one of the other ones manages to print out a bunch of characters on the same line. i'm not sure what happened because i didn't change any hardware or configurations... any ideas on why this would happen? andrew _ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms and gnome?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:02:16 -0700, Abilio Carvalho muttered: Why do I make emerge -p xmms and see a lot of Gnome 1 libraries? Even ~x86 doesn't help. I'm forced to USE=-gnome to be able to install it... Are there plans for a Gnome-2 based xmms ebuild? As far as I know, XMMS doesn't yet support GTK+2/GNOME2. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms and gnome?
On Friday 17 October 2003 07:02 pm, Abilio Carvalho wrote: Why do I make emerge -p xmms and see a lot of Gnome 1 libraries? Even ~x86 doesn't help. I'm forced to USE=-gnome to be able to install it... Are there plans for a Gnome-2 based xmms ebuild? That isn't up to the Gentoo people. xmms is strictly a gtk-1.2 application and that's the xmms developer's decision... Gentoo can't do anything about it. Here's a thread from xmms' forums on the subject: http://forum.xmms.org/viewtopic.php?t=10highlight=gtk2 Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT recover disk after mke2fs -j ?
Jeffrey Smelser said the following on 10/17/2003 3:00 PM yeah, I thought there might be some kind of vendor doing it. I just don't think there are any 'linux' utils native that do it.. I don't know anything above X in linux as I have yet to venture that way besides a few times I have grown balls enough to install x here and there. so someone else will have to help you onthe mozilla thing.. if you have progs on home, you should really be doing a tar -cvf (-j/z) every night on it.. I can't tell you home many times I have restored a prog just because I try to make a big change and realize I got over my head with an idea of mine and needed a backup of it.. OR simply just got to crazy with the rm command that day for some stupid reason. I'll definitely do the backup religeously from now on. Atleast before doing any maintenance work on my box. I have learnt my lession -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: cd burner for gnome
On Friday 17 October 2003 01:35 pm, Jon Ellis wrote: Hello all! I have been looking for a good cd burning utility for gnome for a while with no luck. I like k3b, but I'm not such a big fan of qt/kde. I have been using command line tools and Xcdroast, and I was wondering if there was something out there that's better. Suggestions? TIA! Jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I like eroaster check it out http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/eroaster.php # emerge -s eroaster Searching... [ Results for search key : eroaster ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * app-cdr/eroaster Latest version available: 2.1.0-r2 Latest version installed: 2.1.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 157 kB Homepage:http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/eroaster.php Description: A graphical frontend for cdrecord and mkisofs written in gnome-python -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM
Stroller's Log: StarDate 1016.1134:
On Oct 16, 2003, at 4:15 am, Bruce Kingsland wrote:
The why is that I have a s.l.o.o.o.o.w 28.8 connection for my home
network (linux based) and my friend has WinXP on a cable modem (115K)
where I use putty to do stuff on my linux box. My friend is not
interested in using linux (but I'll deal with that separately).
A stage 3 will give you only what you need for a minimal Gentoo install
- you can then download additional packages for each machine on the
LAN. However, as you have probably observed, stage3s are optimised for
different platforms, so no one will do all your machines - I don't know
what's on the 2 CDs you have found, but if they are images of the
retail Gentoo GRP 2CD sets, then they will contain useful but
non-optimised binaries.
Index of /gentoo/releases/x86/1.4/livecd/x86
x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso 13-Sep-2003 20:56 502M
x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso.md5 13-Sep-2003 21:06 59
x86-1.4-20030911-cd2.iso 13-Sep-2003 20:59 455M
x86-1.4-20030911-cd2.iso.md5 14-Sep-2003 19:44 59
Apache/2.0.40 Server at cudlug.cudenver.edu Port 80
Opening x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso with WinImage shows a stages dir with
a Stage1 file of ~11MB built 9/13/03. There's also a packages dir with
a whole bunch of tbz2 files. Are these all sources, or is just the
gentoo-sources file the one of interest. Perhaps booting from this CD
will be more informative. Do I have a tbz2 unpacker?
Additionally, any Gentoo install CD is, by definition, out of date as
soon as the Portage tree changes, within hours of its completion.
Understood.
The only way to solve these two issues - to get the current version of
packages optimise them for your architecture - is to download the
source to packages. To be honest, I would probably just bite the
bullet, install from stage1 `emerge -f whatever` before any emerge
(the -f fetches the packages, but does not compile them) - it won't
take *that* long to download them.
Extapolationg from the next paragraph, would 'emerge -fp ??? listFile'
get me a list of what is needed? Can that list be downloaded with wget?
Since your friend has a fast connection, you could `emerge -Ufp world
somefile.txt` on your Gentoo systems. This will give you a full path
to all the files you need to download (I think it is neatest if you
only have one mirror listed in the GENTOO_MIRRORS line of
/etc/make.conf). If you boot from a Gentoo or Knoppix CD on your
friend's system, then you should be able to pipe somefile.txt into
wget, or write a one-line Bash to `for $PACKAGE in somefile.txt do wget
$PACKAGE done`, or something. Save the downloaded source tarballs on
the friend's hard-drive, then get him to burn them to CD for you.
I don't think I can reboot her system to the gentoo CD and still have
a valid cable connection. I don't have the details on the login stuff.
But if the emerge command results in file names, and a path to them, I
can fix up a batch file in the winbox to use wget to get them all, and
burn them to a CD for use on my home system.
If you export the Portage tree as a NFS share on the first machine on
which you install Gentoo, you will then be able to access it
transparently from all the other machines on which you install. I would
advise this, as it will save you from downloading the same source
packages several times. When you install you will find that there will
be some upgrades to the base system, so that even if your machines have
different roles they will have a number of upgrades in common.
Is there a handy boot floppy that I can use for my laptop? It doesn't
have an onboard CD, but it does have an enet card in the PCMCIA slot
(a Xircom 10/100/56K) that I could use to access files on my local
network, and the CD in one of the desktop systems.
if you search http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user you will
see that exporting the Portage tree as a NFS share has been documented
here a number of times.
OK, I'll review it.
-bk
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[gentoo-user] controlling tape drive
Does anyone know what package contains the 'mt' command for controlling SCSI tape drives? I had this command on my Slackware system, but I can't seem to find it in Gentoo. The closest thing i could find was mtx, but its not quite the same. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] controlling tape drive
did you see emerge mt-st -p? Does anyone know what package contains the 'mt' command for controlling SCSI tape drives? I had this command on my Slackware system, but I can't seem to find it in Gentoo. The closest thing i could find was mtx, but its not quite the same. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] controlling tape drive
Jeffrey Smelser wrote: did you see emerge mt-st -p? I was just about to reply to my original post saying that I found it. Thanks. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for a Template
since you already have payed ofr microsoft office, why not get codeweavers for $50 extra and run office on top of linux? It works great. On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:09, Kent Jantz wrote: I do some contract work and thus am in need of a good invoice for services template in OpenOffice, Abiword, KOffice,...etc to replace my usage of the same thing in Microsoft Word, I've searched this forum and Google for some but couldn't find any. If anybody knows where I could acquire one I would appreciate a heads up. Thanks, Kent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM
begin quote Opening x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso with WinImage shows a stages dir with a Stage1 file of ~11MB built 9/13/03. There's also a packages dir with a whole bunch of tbz2 files. Are these all sources, or is just the gentoo-sources file the one of interest. Perhaps booting from this CD will be more informative. Do I have a tbz2 unpacker? No, they aren't sources. They are binary packages ready for installation on a Gentoo system. .tbz2 is a .tar.bz2 with an attached trailing section that contains metadata. Extapolationg from the next paragraph, would 'emerge -fp ??? listFile' get me a list of what is needed? Can that list be downloaded with wget? That will give a long list of URI's, yes. Not sure if they are line-break compatible with wget or not, but i think they are. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] quick restore
I want to be able to quickly restore my system to a known working configuration from a burned CD or set of CDs. I currently backup my /home, /root, /etc, and MySQL dbs everynight to a tape drive. I also have a second HD that I perform a complete backup to everynight using rsync. What I want to be able to do is rebuild the system in a matter of minutes similar to the way a stage 3 install works. In case the box catches on fire or something equally unlikely, I want to be able to get my system back up and running quickly. What I was thinking about doing was using the quickpkg utility to create binary packages of everything installed on my system. I would then burn all the binary packages to a CD. In order to restore, I would boot from a LiveCD, create my partitions, extract a stage 1 or 2 tarball (if even needed), and then use emerge to re-install all the binary packages from my CD. I would then restore my data and configs from the tape backup. Would this work? Are there any major pitfalls anyone can see? Has anyone successfully done this kind of thing before? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quick restore
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:08, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I want to be able to quickly restore my system to a known working configuration from a burned CD or set of CDs. I currently backup my /home, /root, /etc, and MySQL dbs everynight to a tape drive. I also have a second HD that I perform a complete backup to everynight using rsync. What I want to be able to do is rebuild the system in a matter of minutes similar to the way a stage 3 install works. In case the box catches on fire or something equally unlikely, I want to be able to get my system back up and running quickly. What I was thinking about doing was using the quickpkg utility to create binary packages of everything installed on my system. I would then burn all the binary packages to a CD. In order to restore, I would boot from a LiveCD, create my partitions, extract a stage 1 or 2 tarball (if even needed), and then use emerge to re-install all the binary packages from my CD. I would then restore my data and configs from the tape backup. Would this work? Are there any major pitfalls anyone can see? Has anyone successfully done this kind of thing before? Check partimage. I have used it more than once. One thing worth noting, after a restore I have had to do a manual ldconfig from a root console before major things (like x) will work. Not sure if it's generic or something obscure to my setup, but worth a note and saves some hair pulling -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] quick restore
Tom Wesley wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:08, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I want to be able to quickly restore my system to a known working configuration from a burned CD or set of CDs. I currently backup my /home, /root, /etc, and MySQL dbs everynight to a tape drive. I also have a second HD that I perform a complete backup to everynight using rsync. What I want to be able to do is rebuild the system in a matter of minutes similar to the way a stage 3 install works. In case the box catches on fire or something equally unlikely, I want to be able to get my system back up and running quickly. What I was thinking about doing was using the quickpkg utility to create binary packages of everything installed on my system. I would then burn all the binary packages to a CD. In order to restore, I would boot from a LiveCD, create my partitions, extract a stage 1 or 2 tarball (if even needed), and then use emerge to re-install all the binary packages from my CD. I would then restore my data and configs from the tape backup. Would this work? Are there any major pitfalls anyone can see? Has anyone successfully done this kind of thing before? Check partimage. I have used it more than once. One thing worth noting, after a restore I have had to do a manual ldconfig from a root console before major things (like x) will work. Not sure if it's generic or something obscure to my setup, but worth a note and saves some hair pulling This does look promising. I may base my rescue CD on the Gentoo LiveCD to start. From there, I'll write a bash script to automate/semi-automate the restore of partitions from multiple CDs. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quick restore
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Tom Wesley wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:08, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I want to be able to quickly restore my system to a known working configuration from a burned CD or set of CDs. I currently backup my /home, /root, /etc, and MySQL dbs everynight to a tape drive. I also have a second HD that I perform a complete backup to everynight using rsync. What I want to be able to do is rebuild the system in a matter of minutes similar to the way a stage 3 install works. In case the box catches on fire or something equally unlikely, I want to be able to get my system back up and running quickly. What I was thinking about doing was using the quickpkg utility to create binary packages of everything installed on my system. I would then burn all the binary packages to a CD. In order to restore, I would boot from a LiveCD, create my partitions, extract a stage 1 or 2 tarball (if even needed), and then use emerge to re-install all the binary packages from my CD. I would then restore my data and configs from the tape backup. Would this work? Are there any major pitfalls anyone can see? Has anyone successfully done this kind of thing before? Check partimage. I have used it more than once. One thing worth noting, after a restore I have had to do a manual ldconfig from a root console before major things (like x) will work. Not sure if it's generic or something obscure to my setup, but worth a note and saves some hair pulling This does look promising. I may base my rescue CD on the Gentoo LiveCD to start. From there, I'll write a bash script to automate/semi-automate the restore of partitions from multiple CDs. I would be curious about anything you get in this direction, I currently backup to a different disk and restore as needed. Also, not that I'm at all lazy, but if you write any cron scripts to automate backup I wouldn't mind a glance. Have been meaning to get to it, just been busy. -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Keeping packages up todate with a 56k modem
* David Gethings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-10-16 12:29]: Secondly, downloading all the packages over a 56k modem is a non-starter. Espcially as I only have one phone line and a chatty wife. I'm in a similar situation to you. What I usually do is get it to download overnight. Something like % emerge -fUDv world kill `pidof wvdial` or % emerge -fuv `qpkg -I -nc` kill `pidof wvdial` or % emerge -fv pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 /etc/ppp/ppp-down just before going to bed. Cheers David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quick restore
Tom Wesley wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Tom Wesley wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 22:08, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I want to be able to quickly restore my system to a known working configuration from a burned CD or set of CDs. I currently backup my /home, /root, /etc, and MySQL dbs everynight to a tape drive. I also have a second HD that I perform a complete backup to everynight using rsync. What I want to be able to do is rebuild the system in a matter of minutes similar to the way a stage 3 install works. In case the box catches on fire or something equally unlikely, I want to be able to get my system back up and running quickly. What I was thinking about doing was using the quickpkg utility to create binary packages of everything installed on my system. I would then burn all the binary packages to a CD. In order to restore, I would boot from a LiveCD, create my partitions, extract a stage 1 or 2 tarball (if even needed), and then use emerge to re-install all the binary packages from my CD. I would then restore my data and configs from the tape backup. Would this work? Are there any major pitfalls anyone can see? Has anyone successfully done this kind of thing before? Check partimage. I have used it more than once. One thing worth noting, after a restore I have had to do a manual ldconfig from a root console before major things (like x) will work. Not sure if it's generic or something obscure to my setup, but worth a note and saves some hair pulling This does look promising. I may base my rescue CD on the Gentoo LiveCD to start. From there, I'll write a bash script to automate/semi-automate the restore of partitions from multiple CDs. I would be curious about anything you get in this direction, I currently backup to a different disk and restore as needed. Also, not that I'm at all lazy, but if you write any cron scripts to automate backup I wouldn't mind a glance. Have been meaning to get to it, just been busy. There was a thread here about 4 months back about ways to backup the system. There was a rsync backup script posted that I'm about to modify and put into place. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Embedded Systems
Hi all, This is of topic, but I'm trying to find a embedded system with a video adapter (matrox or ati 7500 or above) to support gentoo 1.4 dedicated for streaming video. I installed Gentoo 1.4 on my 500 mhz via computer with generic trident card, customer was completely dissatisfied when viewing trailers or using codeweavers quicktime. So if anyone has a URL I would really appreciate it. Thank you -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI
On Friday 17 October 2003 14:07, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: quote who=Ian Truelsen On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:53:36 +0100 (BST) Done and done. I am using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ian $ glxgears 3856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 771.200 FPS 4194 frames in 5.0 seconds = 838.800 FPS 4094 frames in 5.0 seconds = 818.800 FPS 4107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 821.400 FPS 4153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 830.600 FPS I don't know how those match up to others, but it certainly is faster than my old Voodoo. Here's what I get. $ glxgears 6789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1357.800 FPS 7051 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1410.200 FPS 6977 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1395.400 FPS 6962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.400 FPS 6963 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.600 FPS Same card. Quite odd eh? :-\ Glxgears for modern cards is simply a fill rate test and really gives no true image of the card's performace. My GF4 gives 24181 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4836.200 FPS 23711 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4742.200 FPS 23583 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4716.600 FPS 23688 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4737.600 FPS 23612 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4722.400 FPS But it is ti4600 so it's memory bus is like twice of the FX5200. The down side is that this has heat sinks over memory modules and fan over the GPU. One thing you might want to try is enabling the experimental accelerated RENDER extension support. You need to set Option RenderAccel true in the device section to enable this. It works great and gives a really healthy boost for 2D graphics with the latest drivers this really makes the difference. All software that support REDER extension (allmost all) will use HW blits and I think they even has alpha support too. There are some small things still to be done, but nothing that normal use would reveal. So for normal desktop usage it is perfect. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
