[gentoo-ppc-user] failed bootstrap
have tried this about 3 times with no luck, tried changing mirrors and removing some cflags with still no avail, any ideas? Source unpacked. * econf: updating gettext-0.12.1/config/config.guess with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess * econf: updating gettext-0.12.1/config/config.sub with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-nls configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host. If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used. checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip... no checking for strip... strip checking build system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu checking host system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile configure: configuring in autoconf-lib-link configure: running /bin/sh './configure' --prefix=/usr '--prefix=/usr' '--host=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--without-included-gettext' '--enable-nls' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=powerpc -mtune=powerpc -fno-strict-aliasing -ftracer -pipe' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=powerpc -mtune=powerpc -fno-strict-aliasing -ftracer -pipe' 'CXX=gcc' 'host_alias=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu' --cache-file=/dev/null --srcdir=. configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host. If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used. checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip... no checking for strip... strip checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for autoconf-lib-link !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.12.1-r2/work/gettext-0.12.1/config.log !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1-r2 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Rumen Yotov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Ian K wrote: | Bob Sanders wrote: | | Hey everyone, | I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response. | Can someone check into it please? | | | | I followed this last week and did some looking around. Others | seemed to not be having problems, but no one was running a | current kernel, though several were running alsa with no problems. | | Thus I found nothing that might point at a bug in alsa. Rather, | I'd guess you might have a hardware problem. | | This soundcard works under Windows ME / the dual boot of this laptop. | | Or the kernel | PCI/ISA bus drivers have an issue, perhaps not initalizing | the sound chip. | | | | Does the sound chip show up in the lspci or dmesg output? | Or can you wonder through /proc/bus/pci/devices and find the | sound chip listed? | | | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there | a command to show the ISA devices? | Yes think so. Try lshw | grep ISA, 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an ISA-device on my mobo. HTH Rumen Hi again. I emerged this program. Upon trying that line lshw | grep ISA I get no output. After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME. (I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying without sound. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gensplash/bootsplash
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 15:07, Ryan Viljoen wrote: Why not use fbspalsh and set splash to silent instead of verbose. kernel /2.6.10-gentoo-r6/kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence This will give you a screeen much like the one shown when booting a live cd. You need to emerge splashutils though. root=/dev/hda9 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence That's what I'm using right now.. Hmm... thanks for the tip. I will give it a spin. It it works, then I'm all set. ZCool and Thanks. On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:38:27 +0800, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I've read the bootsplash and fbsplash/gensplash howtos. I've already set up fbsplash on my laptop and it's working nicely. However, I'm working on getting a Freevo/Myth box up using gentoo and would like to have bootsplash/gensplash cover up the initial Bootup sequence via a progress bar or something. Is this possible? The last time I tried bootsplash, the patches failed miserably and I was left without any other option other than gensplash. Has someone been able to do it or has there been an updated bootsplash that works for the current 2.6.10 kernel ? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:36:11 up 4:14, 6 users, load average: 0.13, 0.26, 0.27 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 16:07:25 up 6:45, 8 users, load average: 0.98, 0.94, 0.68 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root's passwd
What are your CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf ? What does 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world' say ( shadow may be missing some dep ) ? On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:05 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: livecd root # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc mount: none already mounted or /mnt/gentoo/proc busy mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/gentoo/proc livecd root # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash livecd / # env-update Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... livecd / # source /etc/profile livecd / # passwd Illegal instruction livecd / # On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:58 +, Stanczak Group wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've finally got Gentoo installed on my wife's computer except for one small hitch; it won't let me set root's password. I tried it locally (sitting at her computer) and it gave me an error, so I started up the sshd server and ssh'd over from my PC and tried it again getting the same error. I have pasted the output below: livecd / # passwd Illegal instruction livecd / # passwd root Illegal instruction livecd / # Is there a way to fix this? What went wrong? I updated the shadow package, but other than that I can't think of anything that would cause this. I can set root's password before I go into the chrooted environment, but when I'm actually in the chrooted environment I get the output you see above... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Are you mounting proc ,env-update and source /etc/profile from live cd? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?
Hi all, I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to CD-ROM (or did I miss something?). Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup copies of my copy protected DVDs? Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- Oh, `no attitude,' eh? Not `in your face,' huh? Well, you can cram it with walnuts, ugly! -- Homer Simpson The Itchy Scratchy Poochie Show -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?
Not exactly what you ask, but vobcopy will decrypt and copy the VOB to yout hd. raffaele Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hi all, I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to CD-ROM (or did I miss something?). Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup copies of my copy protected DVDs? Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:34:51 +0100, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup copies of my copy protected DVDs? vobcopy will copy the DVDs file structure to HD, decrypting along the way. Then use growisofs or k3b to write it. vobcopy -m -i /dev/dvd growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd-r -dvd-video MY_MOVIE Replacing MY_MOVIE with whatever vobcopy calls the directory it copies the DVD files into. -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, work for Microsoft. pgpsBlXPUymy2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X and i810
Doug Lovett, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: Chris Cox wro Are you using the latest xorg-x11 ? I see a driver for i810 in /usr/lib/modules. I'm not sure when they added a driver for this video card but I don't remember seeing it in any past versions of XFree86 or xorg-x111. I have installed the latest from Gentoo and I see the driver too. Just can't get it to load the menuconfig says that support for the i810 is experimental. I think you are talkin' about FB (Frame Buffer) drivers for i810. You dont need i810FB drivers in order to have XOrg working (even with dri). FB it's just for console things (like having a nice background in your ttys). But you dont want to have i810FB; it's really experimental and causes lock ups, and you will see weird lines in your consoles, so its better dont have it activated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- 42 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] starting custom scripts/applications at boot time
A. Khattri pe v P 18. 02. 2005 v 01:19 -0500: Why not write a script for the binary and put the sleep 60 in there? Then run the script in the background from local.start. I did, of course :-) and I have the following in /etc/conf.d/locat.start /root/webcam.sh file is executable and contains #!/bin/sh sleep 60 /usr/bin/webcam /var/log/webcam.log 21 but result is same. Is there other posibilities to start it properly? Zbynek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hi all, I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to CD-ROM (or did I miss something?). Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup copies of my copy protected DVDs? Greetings and TIA, Matthias Have a look at the thread DVD ripping copying started on 1st Feb this year. Jason Cooper recommends his perl script dvd9to5, which works great for me. You can find the script at http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/ - -- Dirk Raeder I prefer encrypted and signed messages. My GPG key is available at hkp://blackhole.pca.dfn.de with ID 0x05EB5446 Registered Linux user #378554 http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCFbQd2QYJ1wXrVEYRAhC4AJ9sSjxTNYXOD0sjG6KbrGte24mCTQCdEY4c 9tB2zjAaOHNzoLJ31rwWTuQ= =oksW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soft power off lost
My laptop is Compaq Presario 2500. I was upgrading the kernel from 2.6.8-nitro to 2.6.10-morph. I will also try to add toshiba extra. Sincerely, D. On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:38:18 +0100, Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | I have also enabled swsup2 with my kenel. Would that be a problem? No, I don't believe so as this should have nothing to do with it. It doesn't work reliably here on my laptop so I have it off, but still again, this should have nothing to do with powering down. You mentioned you upgraded your kernel .. from what version to what version? Greetings Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCFY1aAWKxH5yWMT8RAiTeAKDWd1UmR1hE/c4tqDdr7uo4mtqQYwCg0jM/ pMT/oceUjw3iWEJH9vuidds= =LLaD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xsupplicant anyone?? Experience?
Hi all, I just want to determine if anyone here has gotten any positive experience with using xsupplicant (open1x.sourceforge.net) Based on my understanding in reading the user's guide, xsupplicant is good for network access authentication mostly with wireless devices. What is the possiblity of using it for LAN (ethernet) based connections? eg: Before a user in the LAN can connect to the network, he/she needs to be authenticated. eg: YOu can get an IP, but you can't go anywhere. something like that. Maybe I'm confused with it's supposed implementation/uses. Please unconfuse me. Thanks -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:57:39 up 8:35, 7 users, load average: 1.29, 1.02, 0.71 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
Any suggestions or ideas are most welcome. I use iftop and iptraf for Bandwidth Measurement. This are great to measure per ip/port/interface. Take a look in the net-analyzer category (/usr/portage/net-analyzer/*). Perhaps you will find something interesting. Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 mice
Hi, my normal mouse is ps/2 and this one is USB, so that won't work for me. I am going to try using the I-Pen as the only mouse (comment out the main mouse in XF86Config), and see how that goes. Why not? Both map to /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mouse0. I have configered one pointer for xorg (should also work with xfree?), but I use 2 or more pointers (ps2 / USB mixed). The magic thing is that the linux-kernel combines all pointers in /dev/input/mice. On this device you can use the imps/2 Protocol, configure Zaxismapping or any thing else. Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Soft power off lost
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I believe Compaq Presario's (seeing as it's HP now) benefit from the Toshiba extras module (your basic Fn function keys ~ like screen brightness)... however this should not have much to do with the shutting down part. If I had to take another guess, I would guess that the 2.6.10-morph version is slighly broken (ACPI). You can simply try a test Download a fresh copy (vanilla) of 2.6.10, apply Alan Cox's patch (to fix acpi which was horribly broken for my laptop anyway) from here: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/linux-2.6/2.6.10/patch-2.6.10-ac12.bz2 Apply the patch, copy your current .config file to your new source, and try that one. This is the exact same setup as I run at home, which shuts down fine on my HP ze4268 laptop. If shutting down then works, you know what the cause is ;-) Sorry, that's about the best I can do here ... it's all a bit of guess-work from my side though. Hope this helps, Greetings Ralph Ducky Z. wrote: My laptop is Compaq Presario 2500. I was upgrading the kernel from 2.6.8-nitro to 2.6.10-morph. I will also try to add toshiba extra. Sincerely, D. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQFCFcu0AWKxH5yWMT8RAjFIAKDSe1Vm/EOIlGNoraxNJVGb9afcQwCfdrQn BIfhR4OrOBmCmUrU4aXuA5w= =NXZP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bootsplash and 2.6.9-gentoo kernel
Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 05:00, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote: please read this doc and all of your answers will be answered. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash I'm using fbsplash currently and it's sweet. But how about getting a progress bar instead of having all the words scroll by? I'm working towards making a myth/freevo box and having the bootup covered by bootsplash would be nice. splash=silent in your bootloader config (grub or lilo) usually takes care of this. You might also want to set SPLASH_VERBOSE_ON_ERRORS=no in /etc/conf.d/splash. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo
Thanks to all who have responded, I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file. I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right. I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right. More on that later. Meanwhile, I was not surprised that X is a requirement for the Window managers. I thought I remembered it that way, but it has been 10 years since I played with X. I still cannot get Gnome to emerge properly. Does anyone have an insight into what causes the following error? I think I have included enough of the output from the emerge to find the top most error. :-) - libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./rdjpgcom.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/rdjpgcom.o i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./rdjpgcom.c -o rdjpgcom.o /dev/null 21 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/wrjpgcom.o libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o libjpeg.la jcapimin.lo jcapistd.lo jctrans.lo jcparam.lo jdatadst.lo jcinit .lo jcmaster.lo jcmarker.lo jcmainct.lo jcprepct.lo jccoefct.lo jccolor.lo jcsample.lo jchuff.lo jcphuff.lo jcdctmgr.lo jfdctfst.lo jfdctflt.lo jfdctint.lo jdapimin.lo jdapistd.lo jdtrans.lo jdatasrc.lo jdmaster.lo jdinput.lo jdmarker.lo jd huff.lo jdphuff.lo jdmainct.lo jdcoefct.lo jdpostct.lo jddctmgr.lo jidctfst.lo jidctflt.lo jidctint.lo jidctred.lo jdsam ple.lo jdcolor.lo jquant1.lo jquant2.lo jdmerge.lo jcomapi.lo jutils.lo jerror.lo jmemmgr.lo jmemnobs.lo \ -rpath /usr/lib -version-info 62 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c -o wrjpgcom.o /dev/null 21 libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o rdjpgcom rdjpgcom.lo i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o rdjpgcom .libs/rdjpgcom.o libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o wrjpgcom wrjpgcom.lo i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o wrjpgcom .libs/wrjpgcom.o g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/ crtbeginS.o .libs/jcapimin.o .libs/jcapistd.o .libs/jctrans.o .libs/jcparam.o .libs/jdatadst.o .libs/jcinit.o .libs/jcm aster.o .libs/jcmarker.o .libs/jcmainct.o .libs/jcprepct.o .libs/jccoefct.o .libs/jccolor.o .libs/jcsample.o .libs/jchuf f.o .libs/jcphuff.o .libs/jcdctmgr.o .libs/jfdctfst.o .libs/jfdctflt.o .libs/jfdctint.o .libs/jdapimin.o .libs/jdapistd. o .libs/jdtrans.o .libs/jdatasrc.o .libs/jdmaster.o .libs/jdinput.o .libs/jdmarker.o .libs/jdhuff.o .libs/jdphuff.o .lib s/jdmainct.o .libs/jdcoefct.o .libs/jdpostct.o .libs/jddctmgr.o .libs/jidctfst.o .libs/jidctflt.o .libs/jidctint.o .libs /jidctred.o .libs/jdsample.o .libs/jdcolor.o .libs/jquant1.o .libs/jquant2.o .libs/jdmerge.o .libs/jcomapi.o .libs/jutil s.o .libs/jerror.o .libs/jmemmgr.o .libs/jmemnobs.o -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4 -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686- pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../.. -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib /i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o -Wl,-soname -Wl,libjpeg.so.62 -o .libs/libjpeg.so.62.0.0 g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o: No such file or directory g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o: No such file or directory g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o: No such file or directory make: *** [libjpeg.la] Error 1 !!! ERROR: media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 43, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. clwsapp08 root # -Original Message- From: Thomas Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo On Thursday 17 February 2005 21:41, Dennis Taylor wrote: I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something. I want to run X-windows on my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful. It is unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg. When ... xorg is a dependency of KDE and Gnome, just a graphics server... and what is the error are you encountering when emerging Gnome or KDE? Gnome would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring Xorg-X11, but it will not configure correctly for me. When I run X -config, it produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all corrupted. When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems building GTK+
On Thursday 17 February 2005 09:14 pm, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Unless you've actively changed you CHOST (in make.conf) it hasn't changed, so you don't have to include that parameter. In the error message /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory, 3.3.4 is your old version. You don't have to supply your new version to fix_libtool_files.sh. So, the command I specified fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4, should be all your need to do. Thanks. That did it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Colin wrote: Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote: There are some myths about Linux NTFS support (like it's experimental, corrupts data, etc) even if they aren't true for about 3-4 years. The fact is read is fully usable and write isn't fully implemented yet. This means that the write code either isn't written yet, disabled or works fine. The complexity of NTFS is comparable to XFS or Reiser4 what is worked on about 8+ developers full time, paid. The Linux NTFS kernel driver currently is developed by one guy voluntarily, in his spare time. Also note that there are two completely different kernel drivers and the write support was disabled long ago for the original, NT4 NTFS driver that indeed corrupted a lot of Windows 2000 partitions because, among others, the driver didn't check the NTFS version for backard compatibility. I always thought that Microsoft had a copyright on NTFS, which is why non-Windows OSes like Linux and Mac OS X can't have write access without paying royalties if Microsoft accepts. I'm probably wrong, but that's what I've heard. Yes, this is one of the other major myths. However mostly it's being refered as being patented, not copyrighted. Copyright protects the authors of the original works of the authorships. The Linux NTFS code is copyrighted by its developers, the Linux kernel developers. Microsoft has nothing to do with this, they have their own copyright on their own NTFS drivers they developed themself. On the other hand, a patent may protect inventions if there is no prior art and meets many other regulations. However NTFS isn't patented in any country. Szaka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Flash stopped to work in epiphany
Macromedia's Flash recently stopped working in epiphany. I've probably done something stupid but I don't know what. ( # emerge netscape-flash doesn't help) Can anyone here help me ? Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Sascha Lucas wrote: I use iftop and iptraf for Bandwidth Measurement. This are great to measure per ip/port/interface. Take a look in the net-analyzer category (/usr/portage/net-analyzer/*). Perhaps you will find something interesting. I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by an IP. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Resuming from suspend to RAM gives blank virtual console
Hi, I am able to suspend and wake up my Dell Inspiron 8500, however my VC1 (Cntr+Alt+F1) does not wake up (just stays blank). BUT X wakes up fine! To get it to this point I had to unload uhci_hcd ehci_hcd modules before suspending (reload them back during wakeup). However I don't know what to do to wake up my VCs. Any ideas anyone? Raf -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel.
Hi Folks, Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff. Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy. However when my system tried to start X gnome it locked up. X did appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box to disable gnome and reboot the machine. I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash? I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes? I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here. I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop, the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches that I applied are at [2]. any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, --Frank [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash [2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:05:55 +0100 (MET), Szakacsits Szabolcs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: NTFS is a variation of VAX/VMS' original filesystem. Internally at DEC it was known as ODS2 (On Disk Structure 2). This is quite interesting but are you sure? It's fairly well known that NTFS was derived from HPFS. Of course this doesn't exclude that HPFS could be a variant of ODS2. I always thought so too but since NT4 has some roots in VAX I wouldn't be surprised. snip As to comparing it...NTFS is a robust filesystem, but it's not usable under Linux...well fully usable. Yep, it's not fully usable but not really because of the widespread beliefs. There are some myths about Linux NTFS support (like it's experimental, corrupts data, etc) even if they aren't true for about 3-4 years. The fact is read is fully usable and write isn't fully implemented yet. This means that the write code either isn't written yet, disabled or works fine. The complexity of NTFS is comparable to XFS or Reiser4 what is worked on about 8+ developers full time, paid. The Linux NTFS kernel driver currently is developed by one guy voluntarily, in his spare time. Also note that there are two completely different kernel drivers and the write support was disabled long ago for the original, NT4 NTFS driver that indeed corrupted a lot of Windows 2000 partitions because, among others, the driver didn't check the NTFS version for backard compatibility. There is another myth that you can't have reliable write support in linux well at least if you're willing to compromise (not really native kernel support ...). There is a way to use the native ntfs.sys driver in linux so that you use the microsoft librairy via wine to access their filesystem. Here's some links that are interesting : http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/6261 Enjoy ! Jean-Francois Szaka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote: There is another myth that you can't have reliable write support in linux well at least if you're willing to compromise (not really native kernel support ...). There is a way to use the native ntfs.sys driver in linux There are even more ways for read-write NTFS, I wrote about them here: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#write so that you use the microsoft librairy via wine to access their filesystem. Here's some links that are interesting : http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/6261 Captive has its own problems. The most serious is that it does can corrupt and destroy the filesystem. Several users reported this on the Captive mailing list and it's not solved yet because its development was stopped over a year ago. Fairly enough, these are also listed on its web site. Szaka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by an IP. may be this helps? --- from man iftop --- SOURCE / DEST AGGREGATION By pressing s or d while iftop is running, all traffic for each source or destination will be aggregated together. This is most useful when iftop is run in promiscuous mode, or is run on a gateway machine. -- Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root's passwd [SOLVED]
From /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow. It let me set the password... On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 10:28 +0200, Ivan Yosifov wrote: What are your CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf ? What does 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world' say ( shadow may be missing some dep ) ? On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:05 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: livecd root # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc mount: none already mounted or /mnt/gentoo/proc busy mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/gentoo/proc livecd root # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash livecd / # env-update Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... * Caching service dependencies... livecd / # source /etc/profile livecd / # passwd Illegal instruction livecd / # On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:58 +, Stanczak Group wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've finally got Gentoo installed on my wife's computer except for one small hitch; it won't let me set root's password. I tried it locally (sitting at her computer) and it gave me an error, so I started up the sshd server and ssh'd over from my PC and tried it again getting the same error. I have pasted the output below: livecd / # passwd Illegal instruction livecd / # passwd root Illegal instruction livecd / # Is there a way to fix this? What went wrong? I updated the shadow package, but other than that I can't think of anything that would cause this. I can set root's password before I go into the chrooted environment, but when I'm actually in the chrooted environment I get the output you see above... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Are you mounting proc ,env-update and source /etc/profile from live cd? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
From /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow. It let me set the password... Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3). Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3). Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on. Hope you have a spare week or so with a machine that slow. :) Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
Hope you have a spare week or so with a machine that slow. :) Either that or a distcc compile farm, which is what I use for keeping a gentoo p133 system up to date... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag to prescott causes problems. Has any one else experienced this? Any opinions are appreciated. cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? ) Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that somewhere too. Thank you for the help. -- Will Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the new i586 CFlag? Do I need to rebuild the kernel too? It took twelve hours yesterday to build the kernel. Would the packages being built for i686 affect the networking capabilities too? I rebooted the PC and couldn't connect to my LAN. I rebooted with the LiveCD and copied over /etc/resolv.conf and copied over /etc/conf.d/net from my main client PC (running Gentoo with a similar setup except that networking works). 8139too successfully modprobed. net.eth0 was running. netmount was running. Gentoo failed to get a DHCP address from my router and it couldn't connect to my network, but I can't figure out why... On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:17 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote: From /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow. It let me set the password... Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3). Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash stopped to work in mozilla/epiphany/firefox
Le vendredi 18 février 2005 à 15:34 +0100, Frédéric Grosshans a écrit : Macromedia's Flash recently stopped working in epiphany. I've probably done something stupid but I don't know what. To be more specific, epiphany (and othe gecko-based browser, like mozilla and firefox) seems to use a partially working flash plugin: on a flash-using webpage (eg http://www.tokyoplastic.com/start.swf ) I see a gray rectangle instead of the animation, but I can hear the sound and a right-click on the gray rectangle gives the usual flash menu. I'm totally lost here, would really appreciate any suggestion Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial
Hello all, BACKGROUND: I've been looking at :http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cvs-tutorial.xml and http://www.fredshack.com/docs/cvs.html, and the book by Karl Fogel(1999) to learn more about cvs. Here are a few questions that I've somehow missed. ffmpeg is the cvs repository I'm using as a learning example. To install cvs, I simple used 'emerge cvs', it installed just fine. Then to initialize cvs I issued: #cvs -d /usr/local/cvsroot init Then following the ffmpeg site instructions I issued: #cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co ffmpeg First question: So it's all there, but root owns every thing. Should the file be owned by a users? What permissions should they have? Or is the way I've set it up so far OK? Should it be setup in the users directory? In /usr/local/cvsroot/ffmpeg I have: -rw--- 1 root root126 Nov 25 01:31 .cvsignore -rw--- 1 root root 26428 May 25 2002 COPYING -rw--- 1 root root602 Nov 26 09:13 CREDITS drwx-- 2 root root128 Feb 18 11:02 CVS -rw--- 1 root root 12794 Nov 20 18:40 Changelog -rw--- 1 root root 41386 Jul 15 2004 Doxyfile -rw--- 1 root root426 May 25 2002 INSTALL -rw--- 1 root root 4610 Jan 21 17:16 Makefile -rw--- 1 root root445 Apr 16 2003 README snip Second, question: As I experiment around with this code, any directories I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code. What did I miss? Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Will Clifton wrote: | I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get | too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is | the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of | reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the - -march flag to prescott causes | problems. Has any one else experienced this? | | Any opinions are appreciated. | | cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow | -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe - -O3 is generally discouraged (it may break some packages), but if you want to get the most out of your chip, it is what you want. - -mmmx, -msse -m3dnow are implied by -march and thus are redundant. You might want to add -ftracer. It provides some extra information for the compiler to improve later optimizations and is safe (i.e., it might speed up your apps, but never slows them down or increases their size). In general please don't add every flag to your make.conf that looks really cool. Usually these tend to break stuff rather than improving anything. Also CFLAGS are no magic speed boosters. The difference between (the usually safe) -O2 and -O3 is usually negligibly small (or even zero), for the price of a potential unstable system. You have been warned. :) | chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu | makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? ) Yes. The -j flag should be set to num(CPU) + 1. Since your CPU has HT technology, you virtually have two CPUs. | Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that | somewhere too. You definitely want SMP (see above). Regards, Karsten -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCFiCAgUNlsZQzobwRAkiOAJsH4RH3zY9eeykP0d1VArFIEFVF9ACdGaw0 OVgu7v74k8qo38VmoP3GCWA= =K6Ho -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
On 10:55 Fri 18 Feb , Will Clifton wrote: You can use march=pentium4 and -msse3 to use the SSE3 instruction set (although there isn't much code around using it). I've been using this quite successfully for a while. Also you should enable SMP support in the kernel config. Cheers, Ben I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag to prescott causes problems. Has any one else experienced this? Any opinions are appreciated. cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? ) Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that somewhere too. Thank you for the help. -- Will Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- pgp9Pkv0gQcU4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: [snip] | Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions | on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? | Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an | IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it). Regards, Karsten -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCFiJKgUNlsZQzobwRAhPIAJ9mrYPLNJoOuWVWpEThKrNpZfmKYQCfW68f VFcTk87MaRX2iVtPZCjfVHk= =oF2B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
Karsten Baumgarten karsten.baumgarten at gmx.net writes: James wrote: [snip] | Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions | on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? | Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an | IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it). So what your are inferring/suggesting is to learn CVS, which is my current goal, use traditional command-line methods to code, compile, and manage my work, while issuing CVS commands from the command line After I get a deep understanding of cvs, then move on to a IDE? Never use and IDE? I guess an IDE with CVS built in is a good idea for converting PC developers to linux/gentoo quickly? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage
What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla? -- Matthew Daubenspeck http://www.oddprocess.org 12:44:56 up 27 days, 22:27, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.08, 0.08 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla? Yes. Preferably with an updated ebuild attached. :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
* On Feb 18 16:59, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Then to initialize cvs I issued: #cvs -d /usr/local/cvsroot init This isn't necessary for simply checking out files. Unless you want to *host* a CVS repo, you can simply do your next step: #cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co ffmpeg If you just do this, it creates an ffmpeg directory within your *current directory*, with your user's normal permissions - not in /usr/local or some other equally unfriendly place. Then you can feel free to play around all you like. Second, question: As I experiment around with this code, any directories I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code. What did I miss? You're connecting to their CVS repo anonymously, hence the anonymous in the checkout command (co = checkout). You don't have permission to commit anything, so don't worry about it :) They need to specifically give you an account to do anything other than download the files. (On a more technical note, no, any directories you create wouldn't appear in the repo anyway - you have to cvs add dir first.) Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? You'll probably slap me for this one, but use vim ;) You can get easy CVS integration, and after you learn vim, everything else feels painfully inadequate. Hope this helps, Tom pgpfauu4Tp0RO.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
I strongly suggest you start over. The kernel in particular filters most if not all of the user set CFLAGS , because the kernel has very special requirements. Yes , you will loose a lot of time , but I don't think the risk of having random problems all over the place is worth it in the long term. In fact I am surprised a system compiled for the wrong CPU comes up at all ( had you set more aggressive optimizations it would not have :) ) ! IMO you should set -march=pentium2 ( http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3/gcc/i386-and-x86-64-Options.html#i386%20and%20x86-64%20Options ). I am not very confident of what CHOST does , so I suggest you ask here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-8.html?sid=814d2c74bcc970023b312b881319334e what CHOST is right for you. Good luck. On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 10:43 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the new i586 CFlag? Do I need to rebuild the kernel too? It took twelve hours yesterday to build the kernel. Would the packages being built for i686 affect the networking capabilities too? I rebooted the PC and couldn't connect to my LAN. I rebooted with the LiveCD and copied over /etc/resolv.conf and copied over /etc/conf.d/net from my main client PC (running Gentoo with a similar setup except that networking works). 8139too successfully modprobed. net.eth0 was running. netmount was running. Gentoo failed to get a DHCP address from my router and it couldn't connect to my network, but I can't figure out why... On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:17 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote: From /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow. It let me set the password... Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3). Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ivan Yosifov. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is it possible to emerge only the docs for a package
John Myers wrote: On Thursday 17 February 2005 11:51, Catalin Trifu wrote: I don't usually use docs, so i add doc to package.use but i forgot :) to add it to a package. is there a possibility to emerge only the docs from a package Nope. You'll have to re-merge the whole package. Sorry. Unless its Java, or Gnome, because those have a package name-docs (The useflag just adds a dependency ... ) -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]
Le vendredi 18 février 2005 à 10:43 -0600, Michael Sullivan a écrit : I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the new i586 CFlag? no. You have to emerge --emptytree world (or emerge -e world) Do I need to rebuild the kernel too? No. The kernel set its own flags. It took twelve hours yesterday to build the kernel. That means you'll have quite a long time for recompiling everything (I think gcc and glibc). If you started with a generic x86 stage3, you'll only need to recompile what you emerged. The rest can be done as a background task, since it would only be for optimization. Would the packages being built for i686 affect the networking capabilities too? It can affect ANYTHING compiled with this flag... Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:46:01 -0500 Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package | has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla? Bugzilla, but not straight away. Leave it for at *least* a few days after the release. We usually get release announcements anyway, and it can take a while to get working ebuilds into the tree -- bugspam thirty seconds after a new release just wastes our time. On the other hand, sometimes we miss things, so a bug after a reasonable amount of time can help. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpugtKilGxSv.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
Thomas Kirchner lists at halffull.org writes: Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? You'll probably slap me for this one, but use vim ;) You can get easy CVS integration, and after you learn vim, everything else feels painfully inadequate. Actually no, I use vi/elvis/vim as my preferred editor. IDE's are nice too, especially when you work with a PC(MS) developers and want to entice them to use Linux. Easy integration of CVS/VIM? Is this just the normal command line commonality, or are their modules/tricks/configs that make using cvs with vim more attractive? Please elaborate...? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
On Friday 18 February 2005 09:06, Karsten Baumgarten wrote: Will Clifton wrote: | Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that | somewhere too. You definitely want SMP (see above). You also need SMT (that's the HyperThreading part) -- t3h 3l3ctr0n3rd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Supermarket Deli Clerk and Student Programmer OpenPGP Key Fingerprint: 0A65 EEFA B23A F0AC E6C2 C71C BEA0 E055 BE0E EC25 pgpervyHabKTd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo
Dennis Taylor wrote: Thanks to all who have responded, I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file. I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right. I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right. More on that later. I just downloaded a LiveCD made by Slackware which also has the latest KDE 3.4 beta 2 and xorg-x11 installed on it. It is much smaller than a Knoppix LiveCD since it was made for testing the new KDE beta version mainly. You might want to take a quick look at it. Knoppix still uses XFree86 and I've had problems in the past in using their config files with xorg-x11. The following links may be useful to you: http://osdir.com/Article4141.phtml http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
James wrote: Karsten Baumgarten karsten.baumgarten at gmx.net writes: James wrote: [snip] | Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions | on which IDE to use? Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS? | Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an | IDE with CVS. Thoughts or suggestions? I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply fantastic. It takes you from complete beginner to expert, in a very gentle way. While CVS is much more common there are still plenty of subversion reps around. Once you are comfortable with subversion you will be fine with CVS. There is also a section in the book which explains the differences between the two. Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it). Most IDEs have some support (kdevelop, netbeans,...) So what your are inferring/suggesting is to learn CVS, which is my current goal, use traditional command-line methods to code, compile, and manage my work, while issuing CVS commands from the command line Certainly best for the beginning, then when (if) you start using an ide and get interesting results you can either do it from CL or understand what the ide is doing Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
* On Feb 18 18:09, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Actually no, I use vi/elvis/vim as my preferred editor. IDE's are nice too, especially when you work with a PC(MS) developers and want to entice them to use Linux. Meh, I've given up there ;) If they're not impressed with the power native to *nix, let them suffer! :D Easy integration of CVS/VIM? Is this just the normal command line commonality, or are their modules/tricks/configs that make using cvs with vim more attractive? Please elaborate...? Yeah, there are vim plugins that integrate CVS directly into the editor. I don't personally use them, as I'm a control freak console-masochist, but I've heard they're nice. Check vim.org's scripts section. Tom pgpVw8hhChiTZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, James wrote: Second, question: As I experiment around with this code, any directories I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code. What did I miss? CVS doesn't handle directories very well. Specifically, when you move stuff around you might find yourself having to manually remove old directories. This is one reason why a lot of people use Subversion instead. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:55:51 -0600, Will Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Any opinions are appreciated. cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? ) At least remove -m3dnow, it's amd only. regards, Jean-Francois snip Thank you for the help. -- Will Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Antoine wrote: I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply fantastic. Just to add: The latest O'Reilly Subversion book is open source: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Sascha Lucas wrote: I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by an IP. may be this helps? --- from man iftop --- SOURCE / DEST AGGREGATION By pressing s or d while iftop is running, all traffic for each source or destination will be aggregated together. This is most useful when iftop is run in promiscuous mode, or is run on a gateway machine. I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption of a client's site. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 18:42 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Yes. Preferably with an updated ebuild attached. :-) . Please, only do this if there are actual changes to the build. if all you do is cp $olbduild $newbuild, don't bother attaching it. its more work to download, compare and review it then. A note that a cp'ed version works for you is good however, since that does imply that you have tested it, and it works. Gives us some expectation and shows that you care, rather than just add to the burden without participating. Small subtleties to help your friendly (or less so) neighbourhood developers burn out in a slower pace. ; ) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?
I need to ftp different text files to different systems (google, yahoo, etc.), and I'd like to be able to set up a cron job so it is done automatically every day. I'm also concerned about sending my password for these systems over the internet in clear text. A previous thread tells me wput can ftp files with a single command and sftp can send files securely. Can sftp send files securely with a single command? I would just emerge it and figure it out but it has a long list of dev-perl dependencies for me. Does anyone use sftp like that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:39:24 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff. Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy. However when my system tried to start X gnome it locked up. X did appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box to disable gnome and reboot the machine. I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash? I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes? I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here. I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop, the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches that I applied are at [2]. any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, --Frank [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash [2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/ I just tested this using initramfs and a manually built kernel, but the problem still persists. The issue here is not metacity. I can launch X, metacity, nautilus, gnome-panel, and everything works fine. The problem is when my machine boots directly into gnome and launches gnome-session... I might try re-emerging gnome-session. Again if anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate it. cheers, ---Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
Thomas Kirchner lists at halffull.org writes: Yeah, there are vim plugins that integrate CVS directly into the editor. I don't personally use them, as I'm a control freak console-masochist, but I've heard they're nice. Check vim.org's scripts section. Thanks Tom, Your advice is well received, as I have diverse goals with CVS: participate in several opensource projects orgainize my legacy code for ease of retreival managed embedded code for diverse hardware platforms managing internal coding projects by individuals or small teams Integration of code into larger programs Thanks for all of your input. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?
On 2005-02-18 11:00, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can sftp send files securely with a single command? I would just emerge it and figure it out but it has a long list of dev-perl dependencies for me. Does anyone use sftp like that? If you have sftp, you have ssh. How about scp? It's part of ssh and works just like plain old cp except that you can specify remote files. It's a single command. -- Luke -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...
Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so what app would be better? Here's a picture of my machine running Gnome and Mozilla immediately after a reboot. top - 11:02:50 up 3 min, 2 users, load average: 0.69, 0.43, 0.17 Tasks: 62 total, 1 running, 61 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.7% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 95.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem:775308k total, 322024k used, 453284k free,38472k buffers Swap: 1536184k total,0k used, 1536184k free, 161860k cached I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about 700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of swap was still in use. I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back to something close to this reboot state? Thanks in advance, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel. [solved]
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:01:11 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:39:24 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff. Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy. However when my system tried to start X gnome it locked up. X did appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box to disable gnome and reboot the machine. I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash? I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes? I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here. I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop, the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches that I applied are at [2]. any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance, --Frank [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash [2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/ I just tested this using initramfs and a manually built kernel, but the problem still persists. The issue here is not metacity. I can launch X, metacity, nautilus, gnome-panel, and everything works fine. The problem is when my machine boots directly into gnome and launches gnome-session... I might try re-emerging gnome-session. Again if anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate it. cheers, ---Frank ok, I resolved this, for the record the problem was that I hadn't re-emerged alsa-driver since I migrated from 2.6.9 to 2.6.10. cheers, --Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A query on C/C++ and GDB
On 17-02-05 20:47 -0600, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote: Hi, What are the libraries/programs that need to be compiled with '+debug' so that GDB has *all* the info to step through library functions? At present GDB does not seem to have STL info. Must I re-compile/re-emerge 1. glibc 2. libstdc++-v3 ...? Thanks, Hareesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Run ldd on the program you want to debug to know what it links against. Sample output from ldd `which vim`: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f9b000) libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0xb7f94000) libperl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libperl.so.1 (0xb7e57000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0xb7e53000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d39000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7d16000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d12000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7cfe000) libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb7ce9000) libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0xb7cbb000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4a092000) Which means glibc, ncurses, libperl, gpm and whatever libnsl and libcrypt belong to :) Time to being out equery... I see, libcrypt is glibc and libnsl is also glibc! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
Antoine melser.anton at gmail.com writes: I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply fantastic. It takes you from complete beginner to expert, in a very gentle way. While CVS is much more common there are still plenty of subversion reps around. Once you are comfortable with subversion you will be fine with CVS. There is also a section in the book which explains the differences between the two. Hm, The web page looks interesting, your sales_pitch is inviting, so let me see if I understand what your are saying I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS? That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to actually use CVS? If/when I decide to use an IDE (eclipse, Anjuta) It will have an option for Subversion style CVS capabilities? PS, I like the idea of Subversion, but, I'm not really running into too much difficulty with CVS (of coarse my experience with cvs is quite limited at this point), it's just something new to get use to using James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Randr, xorg and KDE
Hi, I use x.org 6.8.0 and KDE 3.3.2. In KDE control centre under devices - display I get the message that my X server needs RANDR (Resize and Rotate), which is needed to change the display resolution. Actually RandR is supported and activated. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I found the following line: (==) RandR enabled Why doesn't KDE allow me to change the resolution via the control centre? I'm using ati-drivers 8.8.25, maybe it's got something to do with that? Robert. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X and I855GM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | | what is you problem with X?? 3D acceleration?? | | | | | | yes, the graphic card normally do it but it doesn't.and it seems for | dvd | | play, it use cpu ressource instead of using the graphic card accel. | | And of course you need to compile xorg-x11 with the opengl USE-Flag, | and I recommend xv, too, to get proper acceleration. | | Sascha | | Thanks for helping, after that, how cani check if every is working fine, | the 3D i mean? | Can i use glxgear and glxinfo ? Yes, why not? If glxinfo and glxgears both run nicely, you probably have GLX running. glxinfo should return a line with hardware rendering: yes, or something like that. Sascha -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCFkgFOyDtNneHFrMRAqLbAJ9zGeVrkVRUyyfWceEB5Ar4cSTYxQCeOaAM selatrIupgO7lWu8F1hNMq4= =TyI/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
* On Feb 18 19:21, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS? That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to actually use CVS? No, Subversion does not operate with CVS repos, only SVN-specific repos. He was just saying that SVN is the better project (it is) and that the SVN book is fantastic (it is) so it'd be beneficial to learn SVN. Your SVN knowledge will apply to CVS, though, because the two systems are similar - SVN is intended as a CVS replacement. Plus, when SVN one day takes over the world, you'll be in a better spot. If/when I decide to use an IDE (eclipse, Anjuta) It will have an option for Subversion style CVS capabilities? It might, if the author was smart enough to either: 1) let you configure your cvs commands 2) integrate svn commands PS, I like the idea of Subversion, but, I'm not really running into too much difficulty with CVS (of coarse my experience with cvs is quite limited at this point), it's just something new to get use to using If you're not having difficulty with CVS, you'll have even less with SVN, and the extra knowledge will come in handy. :) pgp2K40QmU8ez.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
* On Feb 18 18:58, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks for all of your input. No problem - revision control is a wonderful thing, and not as difficult as it might seem at first. There's really no other way to go, and when you learn the basics, you'll find all kinds of uses you didn't think of before. (think /etc :D) Your advice is well received, as I have diverse goals with CVS: participate in several opensource projects Great! Fun, productive, rewarding to you *and* the project, and you get to add just the features you want :) orgainize my legacy code for ease of retreival Not only code - you can save a lot of things under revision control that really makes access and retrieval a lot easier. Tom pgpnQaZeNoMrG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption of a client's site. sorry... I know that net-analyzer/ntop can store RRD-graphes, but I have no experiences with that. Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Randr, xorg and KDE
Robert G. Siebeck wrote: Hi, I use x.org 6.8.0 and KDE 3.3.2. In KDE control centre under devices - display I get the message that my X server needs RANDR (Resize and Rotate), which is needed to change the display resolution. Actually RandR is supported and activated. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I found the following line: (==) RandR enabled Why doesn't KDE allow me to change the resolution via the control centre? I'm using ati-drivers 8.8.25, maybe it's got something to do with that? Probably-- I'm using the mostly the same setup (KDE 3.3.2 and ati 8.10.19 drivers), but under SuSE 9.2, and the message is the same in my configuration center. So it probably is a KDE/ATI conflict, as Wine has no problem changing resolution when needed (using the RANDR extension), and if Wine can't change it back (because of a crash), I can use CTRL+Alt++ to resize the desktop to normal resolution. However, these keys do not work under normal operation (if the resolution has not been changed by other means and I am changing it back). So RANDR does work to some degree, as Wine can use it, but for normal use, it does not seem to-- and that definitely sounds like an ATI driver issue to me, fwiw. I don't usually change resolutions on the fly, so I don't know if it would work with other WMs, but it certainly does not with KDE. Maybe somebody else can confirm if it works with nVidia or other cards (Matrox, for instance). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant wrote: | I need to ftp different text files to different systems (google, | yahoo, etc.), and I'd like to be able to set up a cron job so it is | done automatically every day. I'm also concerned about sending my | password for these systems over the internet in clear text. A | previous thread tells me wput can ftp files with a single command and | sftp can send files securely. Can sftp send files securely with a | single command? I would just emerge it and figure it out but it has a | long list of dev-perl dependencies for me. Does anyone use sftp like | that? | sftp is part of ssh, unless you have ssh accounts on these system you will not be able to use it. To allow sftp to work without the need for a passwd you need have you public key in the system that is to receive it and public key must be in the file ~/.ssh2/authorization on the machine you are trying to access. As far as I know google and yahoo does not have this capability. Mike - -- Mike Noble Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xFFDFC13B Key fingerprint: 8204 1297 B9AD 0CED 2FCE 1FB0 9491 5824 FFDF C13B Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCFlInlJFYJP/fwTsRAtxoAJ4w+sEaivBk3h29KYjU99U1/GWdNgCfSg+i qyfEL1U11zUY8h7QQ5iiUVk= =B5YV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: | Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really | not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so | what app would be better? | | Here's a picture of my machine running Gnome and Mozilla immediately | after a reboot. | | top - 11:02:50 up 3 min, 2 users, load average: 0.69, 0.43, 0.17 | Tasks: 62 total, 1 running, 61 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie | Cpu(s): 4.7% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 95.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si | Mem:775308k total, 322024k used, 453284k free,38472k buffers | Swap: 1536184k total,0k used, 1536184k free, 161860k cached | | I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about | 700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but | after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of | swap was still in use. | | I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by | default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for | me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back | to something close to this reboot state? | | Thanks in advance, | Mark | | -- | gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list | | Try the command free -m, here is what the output looks like: free -m ~ total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 756734 21 0337248 - -/+ buffers/cache:148608 Swap: 2016 0 2016 Mike - -- Mike Noble Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xFFDFC13B Key fingerprint: 8204 1297 B9AD 0CED 2FCE 1FB0 9491 5824 FFDF C13B Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCFlLGlJFYJP/fwTsRAjs2AJ9EQxpkWHWsb0ZnL7wW8rVqhIUlIQCcDOFN Vz1d5DA+KGhr+jwqFtJtgtk= =13tF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?
I'm also concerned about sending my password for these systems over the internet in clear text. Ah, you're doing that whether you are doing it manually or automagically via a cron task. So if you're not worried about the manual upload, why worry about the automated upload? Based on the systems you've mentioned (google yahoo), alternate methods (i.e. sftp, scp, etc.) might not be available to you. Wput will work for uploading via ftp and it's probably going to be your only option. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[Fwd: RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo]
Original Message Subject:RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:58 -0500 From: Dennis Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I will look into that. The Knoppix gave some ideas, but really seems to be a dry hole because of the differing versions of X11. Will report back to the list when I know more. -Original Message- From: Chris Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo Dennis Taylor wrote: Thanks to all who have responded, I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file. I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right. I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right. More on that later. I just downloaded a LiveCD made by Slackware which also has the latest KDE 3.4 beta 2 and xorg-x11 installed on it. It is much smaller than a Knoppix LiveCD since it was made for testing the new KDE beta version mainly. You might want to take a quick look at it. Knoppix still uses XFree86 and I've had problems in the past in using their config files with xorg-x11. The following links may be useful to you: http://osdir.com/Article4141.phtml http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...
Hi Mark, Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so yes there is: i.e. free -m. the line starting with -/+ tells you what's used by apps without filesystem cache and buffers and what's free. the -m is for using MegaBytes as unit. I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about 700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of swap was still in use. Once some thing swaped out it will swap in only if it is needed, or if you run swapoff -a. use top and M to sort by mem-usage. and make shure that your apps exited. I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back to something close to this reboot state? No. You can not tell the system to forget all cache/buffers. The kernel reduces dynamicaly this memory regions if they are needed by your apps. You can imagine cache/buffers as quasi free. There is realy no reason to worry about. linux does not eat memory :-). Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial
On 2005-02-18 13:04:53 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: CVS doesn't handle directories very well. Specifically, when you move stuff around you might find yourself having to manually remove old directories. [16:16:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat ~/.cvsrc cvs -q checkout -P update -d -P diff -u -d -p You don't need to manually remove old directories (i.e. those that are empty as a result of you moving files around) if you use the -P option. This is one reason why a lot of people use Subversion instead. Indeed. The handling of directory renaming in CVS is, well, nonexistent. -- Daniel Westermann-Clark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
Sascha Lucas sascha.lucas at rus.uni-stuttgart.de writes: I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption of a client's site. sorry... I know that net-analyzer/ntop can store RRD-graphes, but I have no experiences with that. Thanks for pointing out about iftop and iptraf. I'll take a look. RRD-style graphs would be nice as was pointing out by A. Khattri. Thanks again, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB pendrive and missing /dev/sda
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 04:29:32PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote For most of the time my machine has been set up, I have been able to use USB storage devices without any trouble (mostly). Recently, after a kernel upgrade, I found that /dev/sda had gone missing. The confusing part is that I hadn't changed any configurations in the kernel for anything at all. The modules are all loaded, and I can even see the device in lsusb, I just don't have a block device to mount it from. So, what could be causing this and how can I fix it? Manually creating the node isn't a problem, if I can find the major-minor numbers, which I can't. Scott correctly points out that the lowspeed option kills /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 for USB. However, you should now see /dev/uba and /dev/uba1 instead. They serve the same function for USB. Mount /dev/uba1 instead of /dev/sda1, and it should work OK. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure, and has a lower TCO, than linux. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:08 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so what app would be better? cat /proc/meminfo and the following link to make sense of it... http://linuxweblog.com/node/232 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?
Hi, a short question: I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess up my system. Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of my current system, or affect it in any way? Thanks for any hint. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:11:57 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote: Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of my current system, or affect it in any way? It is safe. As long as you leave devfs compiled into your kernel, you can switch between udev and devfs at boot time, until you are happy with udev and remove devfs altogether. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml -- Neil Bothwick Is that woof feed me; woof walk me; woof there's a burglar? What?? pgpAYJir3oMtG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?
It is safe. As long as you leave devfs compiled into your kernel, you can switch between udev and devfs at boot time, until you are happy with udev and remove devfs altogether. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml Argh. RTFM ;-) . Thanks a lot for the link (which I could have found by myself :). Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB pendrive and missing /dev/sda
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 17:05 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Scott correctly points out that the lowspeed option kills /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 for USB. However, you should now see /dev/uba and /dev/uba1 instead. They serve the same function for USB. Mount /dev/uba1 instead of /dev/sda1, and it should work OK. I thought that too at first, though the uba driver did not work with all the usb devices that the regular usb-storage did. I'd gotten one of the lexar 6-way cf/sd/etc flash readers, that registered the fact that it was plugged in yet it only would spew hundreds of errors in dmesg and seemed to think the new device had zero storage. But uba worked fine reading the same memory card with a sandisk compact flash reader. The regular usb-storage worked perfectly with all the readers I have. Not sure what kind of devices require the low performance driver instead of the old reliable usb-storage, but unless you absolutely need that, I'd avoid it. -- Scott Taylor - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial
Thomas Kirchner wrote: * On Feb 18 19:21, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS? That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to actually use CVS? No, Subversion does not operate with CVS repos, only SVN-specific repos. He was just saying that SVN is the better project (it is) and that the SVN book is fantastic (it is) so it'd be beneficial to learn SVN. Your SVN knowledge will apply to CVS, though, because the two systems are similar - SVN is intended as a CVS replacement. Plus, when SVN one day takes over the world, you'll be in a better spot. All we have to do now is convince my boss! ;-) Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] trouble with logrotate apache2
Hi all, Whenever I do a logrotate, it seems my apache2 stops logging though there are new log files created but with 0 size. I'm using syslog-ng if it matters. I have the following logrotate configuration for apache2 (the prerotate scp works without prompting because I've exchanged keys): /var/log/apache2/*log { rotate 28 daily prerotate /usr/bin/scp /var/log/apache2/access_log grettir:/var/log/videodrome postrotate /bin/kill -USR1 `cat /var/run/apache2.pid 2/dev/null` 2 /dev/null || true endscript } The above postrotate action I've ripped from a Red Hat system which successfully logrotates but it didn't make any difference. I've tried replacing the postrotate with /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and I've also tried editing /etc/conf.d/apache2 to use restart instead of graceful to no avail. I've also tried adding missingok notifempty create 0644 root root and sharedscripts but it doesn't make a difference. If I manually do a /etc/init.d/apache2 restart the logging resumes. What can I do? thanks --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Holdings, Inc. 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?
Has worked for months here. Check out the udev tutorial on Gentoo and the links in the tutorial. I'm running an all udev system. On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Christoph Eckert wrote: Hi, a short question: I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess up my system. Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of my current system, or affect it in any way? Thanks for any hint. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?
I'm also concerned about sending my password for these systems over the internet in clear text. Ah, you're doing that whether you are doing it manually or automagically via a cron task. So if you're not worried about the manual upload, why worry about the automated upload? I'm not any more worried about it with the automation. Just a misunderstanding. Based on the systems you've mentioned (google yahoo), alternate methods (i.e. sftp, scp, etc.) might not be available to you. Wput will work for uploading via ftp and it's probably going to be your only option. I think you're right. Does this mean anyone could easily intercept my login and password and log in as me? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anyone using mod_security with Apache 1.x???
I have this installed and running on a web server but I see no LoadModule or AddModules commands for it in apache.conf. I do see an Include for the mod_security.conf file. How can I know this DSO is loaded and working? I see nothing in the logs. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, James wrote: Thanks for pointing out about iftop and iptraf. I'll take a look. RRD-style graphs would be nice as was pointing out by A. Khattri. Cacti is great for RRD graphs. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?
This is anything but proper Linux solution: DVD shrink under wine works perfectly for me. On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 09:34 +0100, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Hi all, I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to CD-ROM (or did I miss something?). Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup copies of my copy protected DVDs? Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- Aleksandar Radovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:06:51AM +, Ian K wrote | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there | a command to show the ISA devices? | Yes think so. Try lshw | grep ISA, 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an ISA-device on my mobo. HTH Rumen Hi again. I emerged this program. Upon trying that line lshw | grep ISA I get no output. After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME. (I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying without sound. Thanks! Ian If it's an ISA unit, the next question is... do you have ISA enabled in your kernel. Run make menuconfig and at the top level, you'll see Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) --- Go into that item and make sure that ISA support is enabled. If it hasn't been enabled, enable it, rebuild the kernel and reboot to the new kernel. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure, and has a lower TCO, than linux. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:55:51AM -0600, Will Clifton wrote I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag to prescott causes problems. Has any one else experienced this? Any opinions are appreciated. -O3 is a baad idea. Not only does it break some programs, it can actually slow down others that don't break. In order for us to be able to better advise you, can you capture the output from cat /proc/cpuinfo and post it? The important lines are model name and flags. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure, and has a lower TCO, than linux. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Best way to make the laptop sleep?
Hi, Times at which I am not by my laptop I leave my laptop locked using 'xlock'. I know this isn't the best way because 'xlock' consumes many CPU cycles. What is the best way to lock my laptop so that when I do resume work my laptop isn't at 75 degree celcius (My CPU fan doesn't seem to stop or slow down either). Moreover are there any recent guides/docs to enable power management features on a laptop (I've already checked the Gentoo guide; Any other guides out there?). Thanks, Hareesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious lockups
the most common cause of random freezing is bad capacitors on the mother board bad ones usually bulge up or leak a crystalizing liquid. If you have an MSI board made with tiwanese caps this is the problem. Don't be discouraged from trying to recap your board I have had 100% success trying just be slow and careful and do a few practice solders most of the time you can get away with just replacing the bad ones. On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Matt Garman wrote: I'm hesitant to try this, only because the lockups are so random. It's been almost two weeks since it last happened; I have a feeling that I could get lucky and it won't happen again forever (or it could happen in the next five minutes). Either way, it's hard to determine the solution when I make a change and then just wait. Other possible causes of lockups and/or crashes: Bad RAM (boot the memtest image from an install CD to check). Not enough cooling - check fans all work. checl heatsinks on CPU - replace with better ones (copper base?) if they seem to be very very hot. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott
On Friday 18 February 2005 08:36 pm, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:55:51AM -0600, Will Clifton wrote I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag to prescott causes problems. Has any one else experienced this? The particular argument to march has to be recognized by gcc; I'm not sure what versions (if any) supported prescott as this argument. Any opinions are appreciated. -O3 is a baad idea. Guys, I've been running -O3 ever since I installed gentoo. It's not broken on PII (or any x86 arch). Theoretically, it can slow down programs because of cache issues; I haven't seen this effect in practice. -O3 is edgy though. It has been broken (and certain arches) before, and may be now or in the future. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hi again! Yes, upon going into the menuconfig, my current kernel does have ISA Support enabled (*). Please also note that the appropriate kernel option for my card: Device drivers -Sound --Sound Card Support (*) ---ALSA ALSA (*) ISA Devices -Yamaha OPL3-SA2/SA3 (M) Upon modprobing (modprobe snd-opl3sa2), I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound.isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device. Thanks again!! Ian Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:06:51AM +, Ian K wrote | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there | a command to show the ISA devices? | Yes think so. Try "lshw | grep ISA", 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an ISA-device on my mobo. HTH Rumen Hi again. I emerged this program. Upon trying that line "lshw | grep ISA" I get no output. After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME. (I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying without sound. Thanks! Ian If it's an ISA unit, the next question is... do you have ISA enabled in your kernel. Run "make menuconfig" and at the top level, you'll see Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) --- Go into that item and make sure that ISA support is enabled. If it hasn't been enabled, enable it, rebuild the kernel and reboot to the new kernel. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to make the laptop sleep?
Hi there, Perhaps your laptop's BIOS has an option so that when you close the panel/screen your laptop goes into sleep by itself? This feature obviously doesn't require Windows. I also know that some of the newer laptops and pretty much all Toshiba made ones allow you to control your fan with the fan utility for Toshiba Laptops. (Emerge toshiba-utils). HTH Ian Hareesh Nagarajan wrote: Hi, Times at which I am not by my laptop I leave my laptop locked using 'xlock'. I know this isn't the best way because 'xlock' consumes many CPU cycles. What is the best way to lock my laptop so that when I do resume work my laptop isn't at 75 degree celcius (My CPU fan doesn't seem to stop or slow down either). Moreover are there any recent guides/docs to enable power management features on a laptop (I've already checked the Gentoo guide; Any other guides out there?). Thanks, Hareesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list