[gentoo-ppc-user] failed bootstrap

2005-02-18 Thread Nick Smith
have tried this about 3 times with no luck, tried changing mirrors and 
removing some cflags with still no avail, any ideas?

 Source unpacked.
* econf: updating gettext-0.12.1/config/config.guess with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
* econf: updating gettext-0.12.1/config/config.sub with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu 
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share 
--sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib 
--without-included-gettext --enable-nls
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
   If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used.
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip... no
checking for strip... strip
checking build system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
configure: configuring in autoconf-lib-link
configure: running /bin/sh './configure' --prefix=/usr  '--prefix=/usr' 
'--host=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' 
'--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' 
'--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--libdir=/usr/lib' 
'--without-included-gettext' '--enable-nls' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 
-march=powerpc -mtune=powerpc -fno-strict-aliasing -ftracer -pipe' 
'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=powerpc -mtune=powerpc -fno-strict-aliasing 
-ftracer -pipe' 'CXX=gcc' 'host_alias=powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu' 
--cache-file=/dev/null --srcdir=.
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
   If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used.
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip... no
checking for strip... strip
checking for powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler 
cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for autoconf-lib-link

!!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.12.1-r2/work/gettext-0.12.1/config.log
!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1-r2 failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
!!! econf failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.


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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

2005-02-18 Thread Ian K
Rumen Yotov wrote:
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Hi,
Ian K wrote:
| Bob Sanders wrote:
|
| Hey everyone,
| I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response.
| Can someone check into it please?
|
|
|
| I followed this last week and did some looking around.  Others
| seemed to not be having problems, but no one was running a
| current kernel, though several were running alsa with no problems.
|
| Thus I found nothing that might point at a bug in alsa.  Rather,
| I'd guess you might have a hardware problem.
|
| This soundcard works under Windows ME / the dual boot of this laptop.
|
| Or the kernel
| PCI/ISA bus drivers have an issue, perhaps not initalizing
| the sound chip.
|
|
|
| Does the sound chip show up in the lspci or dmesg output?
| Or can you wonder through /proc/bus/pci/devices and find the
| sound chip listed?
|
|
| The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there
| a command to show the ISA devices?
|
Yes think so. Try lshw | grep ISA, 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an
ISA-device on my mobo.
HTH
Rumen

Hi again.
I emerged this program. Upon trying that line lshw | grep ISA I get no 
output.
After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention 
sound, nor
ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under 
Windows ME.
(I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really 
annoying
without sound. Thanks!
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gensplash/bootsplash

2005-02-18 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 15:07, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
 Why not use fbspalsh and set splash to silent instead of verbose.
 
 kernel /2.6.10-gentoo-r6/kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/hda3
 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence
 
 This will give you a screeen much like the one shown when booting a
 live cd. You need to emerge splashutils though.
 
root=/dev/hda9 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
splash=verbose,theme:emergence

That's what I'm using right now..

Hmm... thanks for the tip. I will give it a spin. It it works, then I'm
all set. ZCool and Thanks.



 
 
 
 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:38:27 +0800, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys,
  
  I've read the bootsplash and fbsplash/gensplash howtos. I've already
  set up fbsplash on my laptop and it's working nicely.
  
  However, I'm working on getting a Freevo/Myth box up using gentoo and
  would like to have bootsplash/gensplash cover up the initial Bootup
  sequence via a progress bar or something.
  
  Is this possible? The last time I tried bootsplash, the patches failed
  miserably and I was left without any other option other than gensplash.
  
  Has someone been able to do it or has there been an updated bootsplash
  that works for the current 2.6.10 kernel ?
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root's passwd

2005-02-18 Thread Ivan Yosifov
What are your CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf ? What does 'emerge --pretend
--update --deep world' say ( shadow may be missing some dep ) ? 

On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:05 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 livecd root # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
 mount: none already mounted or /mnt/gentoo/proc busy
 mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/gentoo/proc
 livecd root # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
 livecd / # env-update
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  * Caching service dependencies...
 livecd / # source /etc/profile
 livecd / # passwd
 Illegal instruction
 livecd / #
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:58 +, Stanczak Group wrote:
  
  Michael Sullivan wrote:
  
  I've finally got Gentoo installed on my wife's computer except for one
  small hitch; it won't let me set root's password.  I tried it locally
  (sitting at her computer) and it gave me an error, so I started up the
  sshd server and ssh'd over from my PC and tried it again getting the
  same error.  I have pasted the output below:
  
  livecd / # passwd
  Illegal instruction
  livecd / # passwd root
  Illegal instruction
  livecd / #
  
  Is there a way to fix this?  What went wrong?  I updated the shadow
  package, but other than that I can't think of anything that would cause
  this.  I can set root's password before I go into the chrooted
  environment, but when I'm actually in the chrooted environment I get the
  output you see above...
  
  
  
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[gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?

2005-02-18 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected 
I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and 
then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to 
CD-ROM (or did I miss something?).

Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup 
copies of my copy protected DVDs?

Greetings and TIA, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?

2005-02-18 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Not exactly what you ask, but vobcopy will decrypt and copy the VOB to 
yout hd.

raffaele
Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
Hi all,
I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected 
I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and 
then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to 
CD-ROM (or did I miss something?).

Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup 
copies of my copy protected DVDs?

Greetings and TIA, Matthias
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?

2005-02-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:34:51 +0100, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:

 Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make
 backup  copies of my copy protected DVDs?

vobcopy will copy the DVDs file structure to HD, decrypting along the way.
Then use growisofs or k3b to write it.

vobcopy -m -i /dev/dvd
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd-r -dvd-video MY_MOVIE

Replacing MY_MOVIE with whatever vobcopy calls the directory it copies the
DVD files into.


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Re: [gentoo-user] X and i810

2005-02-18 Thread Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)
Doug Lovett, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks:
 Chris Cox wro
 
 Are you using the latest xorg-x11 ?   I see a driver for i810 
 in /usr/lib/modules.  I'm not sure when they added a driver for this 
 video card but I don't remember seeing it in any past versions of XFree86 
 or xorg-x111.
 

 
 I have installed the latest from Gentoo and I see the driver too. Just 
 can't get it to load the menuconfig says that support for the i810 is 
 experimental.

I think you are talkin' about FB (Frame Buffer) drivers for i810. You dont
need i810FB drivers in order to have XOrg working (even with dri). FB it's
just for console things (like having a nice background in your ttys). But
you dont want to have i810FB; it's really experimental and causes lock ups,
and you will see weird lines in your consoles, so its better dont have it
activated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting custom scripts/applications at boot time

2005-02-18 Thread Zbynek Houska
A. Khattri pe v P 18. 02. 2005 v 01:19 -0500:

 
 Why not write a script for the binary and put the sleep 60 in there?
 Then run the script in the background from local.start.

I did, of course :-)

and I have the following in /etc/conf.d/locat.start

/root/webcam.sh 

file is executable and contains

#!/bin/sh
sleep 60
/usr/bin/webcam  /var/log/webcam.log 21 

but result is same.

Is there other posibilities to start it properly?
 
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?

2005-02-18 Thread Dirk Raeder
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Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected 
 I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and 
 then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to 
 CD-ROM (or did I miss something?).
 
 Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup 
 copies of my copy protected DVDs?
 
 Greetings and TIA, Matthias
 
Have a look at the thread DVD ripping copying started on 1st Feb this
year. Jason Cooper recommends his perl script dvd9to5, which works great for
me. You can find the script at
http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Soft power off lost

2005-02-18 Thread Ducky Z.
My laptop is Compaq Presario 2500. I was upgrading the kernel from
2.6.8-nitro to 2.6.10-morph. I will also try to add toshiba extra.

Sincerely,
D.


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 | I have also enabled swsup2 with my kenel. Would that be a problem?
 
 No, I don't believe so as this should have nothing to do with it. It
 doesn't work reliably here on my laptop so I have it off, but still
 again, this should have nothing to do with powering down.
 
 You mentioned you upgraded your kernel .. from what version to what version?
 
 Greetings
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[gentoo-user] xsupplicant anyone?? Experience?

2005-02-18 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Hi all,

I just want to determine if anyone here has gotten any positive
experience with using xsupplicant (open1x.sourceforge.net)

Based on my understanding in reading the user's guide, xsupplicant is
good for network access authentication mostly with wireless devices.
What is the possiblity of using it for LAN (ethernet) based connections?
eg: Before a user in the LAN can connect to the network, he/she needs to
be authenticated. 

eg: YOu can get an IP, but you can't go anywhere. something like that. 

Maybe I'm confused with it's supposed implementation/uses.

Please unconfuse me. Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Lucas
Any suggestions or ideas are most welcome.
I use iftop and iptraf for Bandwidth Measurement. This are great to 
measure per ip/port/interface. Take a look in the net-analyzer category 
(/usr/portage/net-analyzer/*). Perhaps you will find something 
interesting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 mice

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Lucas
Hi,
my normal mouse is ps/2 and this one is USB, so that won't work for me.
I am going to try using the I-Pen as the only  mouse (comment out the
main mouse in XF86Config), and see how that goes.
Why not?  Both map to /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mouse0.
I have configered one pointer for xorg (should also work with xfree?), but 
I use 2 or more pointers (ps2 / USB mixed). The magic thing is that the 
linux-kernel combines all pointers in /dev/input/mice. On this device you 
can use the imps/2 Protocol, configure Zaxismapping or any thing else.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Soft power off lost

2005-02-18 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Yes, I believe Compaq Presario's (seeing as it's HP now) benefit from
the Toshiba extras module (your basic Fn function keys ~ like screen
brightness)... however this should not have much to do with the shutting
down part.

If I had to take another guess, I would guess that the 2.6.10-morph
version is slighly broken (ACPI). You can simply try a test Download
a fresh copy (vanilla) of 2.6.10, apply Alan Cox's patch (to fix acpi
which was horribly broken for my laptop anyway) from here:
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/linux-2.6/2.6.10/patch-2.6.10-ac12.bz2

Apply the patch, copy your current .config file to your new source, and
try that one. This is the exact same setup as I run at home, which shuts
down fine on my HP ze4268 laptop. If shutting down then works, you
know what the cause is ;-)

Sorry, that's about the best I can do here ... it's all a bit of
guess-work from my side though.

Hope this helps,
Greetings
Ralph

Ducky Z. wrote:
 My laptop is Compaq Presario 2500. I was upgrading the kernel from
 2.6.8-nitro to 2.6.10-morph. I will also try to add toshiba extra.
 
 Sincerely,
 D.
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Re: [gentoo-user] bootsplash and 2.6.9-gentoo kernel

2005-02-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 05:00, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:
please read this doc and all of your answers will be answered.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash

I'm using fbsplash currently and it's sweet. But how about getting a
progress bar instead of having all the words scroll by? I'm working
towards making a myth/freevo box and having the bootup covered by
bootsplash would be nice.

splash=silent in your bootloader config (grub or lilo) usually takes 
care of this. You might also want to set SPLASH_VERBOSE_ON_ERRORS=no 
in /etc/conf.d/splash.

HTH,
Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-18 Thread Dennis Taylor
Thanks to all who have responded,

I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config 
file.  I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor 
did not work quite right.  I can probably dig some more and figure out how to 
get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if 
Knoppix does not happen to configure it right.  More on that later.

Meanwhile, I was not surprised that X is a requirement for the Window managers. 
 I thought I remembered it that way, but it has been 10 years since I played 
with X.  I still cannot get Gnome to emerge properly.  Does anyone have an 
insight into what causes the following error?  I think I have included enough 
of the output from the emerge to find the top most error. :-)

-

libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c 
./rdjpgcom.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/rdjpgcom.o
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c 
./rdjpgcom.c -o rdjpgcom.o /dev/null 21
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c 
./wrjpgcom.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/wrjpgcom.o
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o libjpeg.la jcapimin.lo jcapistd.lo 
jctrans.lo jcparam.lo jdatadst.lo jcinit
.lo jcmaster.lo jcmarker.lo jcmainct.lo jcprepct.lo jccoefct.lo jccolor.lo 
jcsample.lo jchuff.lo jcphuff.lo jcdctmgr.lo
jfdctfst.lo jfdctflt.lo jfdctint.lo jdapimin.lo jdapistd.lo jdtrans.lo 
jdatasrc.lo jdmaster.lo jdinput.lo jdmarker.lo jd
huff.lo jdphuff.lo jdmainct.lo jdcoefct.lo jdpostct.lo jddctmgr.lo jidctfst.lo 
jidctflt.lo jidctint.lo jidctred.lo jdsam
ple.lo jdcolor.lo jquant1.lo jquant2.lo jdmerge.lo jcomapi.lo jutils.lo 
jerror.lo jmemmgr.lo jmemnobs.lo \
-rpath /usr/lib -version-info 62
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c 
./wrjpgcom.c -o wrjpgcom.o /dev/null 21
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -o rdjpgcom rdjpgcom.lo
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o rdjpgcom .libs/rdjpgcom.o
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -o wrjpgcom wrjpgcom.lo
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o wrjpgcom .libs/wrjpgcom.o
g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/
crtbeginS.o  .libs/jcapimin.o .libs/jcapistd.o .libs/jctrans.o .libs/jcparam.o 
.libs/jdatadst.o .libs/jcinit.o .libs/jcm
aster.o .libs/jcmarker.o .libs/jcmainct.o .libs/jcprepct.o .libs/jccoefct.o 
.libs/jccolor.o .libs/jcsample.o .libs/jchuf
f.o .libs/jcphuff.o .libs/jcdctmgr.o .libs/jfdctfst.o .libs/jfdctflt.o 
.libs/jfdctint.o .libs/jdapimin.o .libs/jdapistd.
o .libs/jdtrans.o .libs/jdatasrc.o .libs/jdmaster.o .libs/jdinput.o 
.libs/jdmarker.o .libs/jdhuff.o .libs/jdphuff.o .lib
s/jdmainct.o .libs/jdcoefct.o .libs/jdpostct.o .libs/jddctmgr.o 
.libs/jidctfst.o .libs/jidctflt.o .libs/jidctint.o .libs
/jidctred.o .libs/jdsample.o .libs/jdcolor.o .libs/jquant1.o .libs/jquant2.o 
.libs/jdmerge.o .libs/jcomapi.o .libs/jutil
s.o .libs/jerror.o .libs/jmemmgr.o .libs/jmemnobs.o  
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4 -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-
pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../.. -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib
/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o  -Wl,-soname -Wl,libjpeg.so.62 -o 
.libs/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o: No such file or 
directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtbeginS.o: No such file or 
directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o: No such file or 
directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o: No such file or 
directory
make: *** [libjpeg.la] Error 1

!!! ERROR: media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 43, Exitcode 2
!!! make failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

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From: Thomas Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo


On Thursday 17 February 2005 21:41, Dennis Taylor wrote:
 I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something.  I want to run X-windows
 on my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful.  It
 is unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg. When

... xorg is a dependency of KDE and Gnome, just a graphics server...  and what 
is the error are you encountering when emerging Gnome or KDE?

 Gnome would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring
 Xorg-X11, but it will not configure correctly for me.  When I run X
 -config, it produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all
 corrupted.  When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start
 

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems building GTK+

2005-02-18 Thread David Corbin
On Thursday 17 February 2005 09:14 pm, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Unless you've actively changed you CHOST (in make.conf) it hasn't changed,
 so you don't have to include that parameter.  In the error message
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or
 directory, 3.3.4 is your old version.  You don't have to supply your new
 version to fix_libtool_files.sh.

 So, the command I specified fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4, should be all
 your need to do.

Thanks.  That did it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-18 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Colin wrote:
 Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

 There are some myths about Linux NTFS support (like it's experimental,
 corrupts data, etc) even if they aren't true for about 3-4 years. The fact
 is read is fully usable and write isn't fully implemented yet. This means
 that the write code either isn't written yet, disabled or works fine.
 
 The complexity of NTFS is comparable to XFS or Reiser4 what is worked on
 about 8+ developers full time, paid. The Linux NTFS kernel driver
 currently is developed by one guy voluntarily, in his spare time.
 
 Also note that there are two completely different kernel drivers and the
 write support was disabled long ago for the original, NT4 NTFS driver that
 indeed corrupted a lot of Windows 2000 partitions because, among others,
 the driver didn't check the NTFS version for backard compatibility.
   
 
 I always thought that Microsoft had a copyright on NTFS, which is why 
 non-Windows OSes like Linux and Mac OS X can't have write access without 
 paying royalties if Microsoft accepts.  I'm probably wrong, but that's 
 what I've heard.

Yes, this is one of the other major myths. However mostly it's being
refered as being patented, not copyrighted.

Copyright protects the authors of the original works of the authorships.
The Linux NTFS code is copyrighted by its developers, the Linux kernel
developers. Microsoft has nothing to do with this, they have their own
copyright on their own NTFS drivers they developed themself.

On the other hand, a patent may protect inventions if there is no prior
art and meets many other regulations. However NTFS isn't patented in any
country.

Szaka


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[gentoo-user] Flash stopped to work in epiphany

2005-02-18 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Macromedia's Flash recently stopped working in epiphany. I've probably
done something stupid but I don't know what. 

( # emerge netscape-flash doesn't help) 

  Can anyone here help me ?

  Fred
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Sascha Lucas wrote:

 I use iftop and iptraf for Bandwidth Measurement. This are great to
 measure per ip/port/interface. Take a look in the net-analyzer category
 (/usr/portage/net-analyzer/*). Perhaps you will find something
 interesting.

I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of
measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to
do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by
an IP.


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[gentoo-user] Resuming from suspend to RAM gives blank virtual console

2005-02-18 Thread Raf
Hi,
I am able to suspend and wake up my Dell Inspiron 8500, however my VC1 
(Cntr+Alt+F1) does not wake up (just stays blank). BUT X wakes up fine!

To get it to this point I had to unload uhci_hcd ehci_hcd modules before 
suspending (reload them back during wakeup). However I don't know what 
to do to wake up my VCs.

Any ideas anyone?
Raf
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[gentoo-user] gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel.

2005-02-18 Thread Frank Lynch
Hi Folks, 
Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed
the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the
kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff.
Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy.

However when my system tried to start X  gnome it locked up. X did
appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for
starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I
couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even
kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box
to disable gnome and reboot the machine.
 
I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I
rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome
based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if
perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash?

I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this
at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions
here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from
X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes?
I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here.

I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop,
the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches
that I applied are at [2].

any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance,
--Frank

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash
[2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-18 Thread Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:05:55 +0100 (MET), Szakacsits Szabolcs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005,  Bob Sanders wrote:
 
  NTFS is a variation of VAX/VMS' original filesystem.  Internally at
  DEC it was known as ODS2 (On Disk Structure 2).
 
 This is quite interesting but are you sure? It's fairly well known that
 NTFS was derived from HPFS. Of course this doesn't exclude that HPFS could
 be a variant of ODS2.
 

I always thought so too but since NT4 has some roots in VAX I wouldn't
be surprised.

snip

 
  As to comparing it...NTFS is a robust filesystem, but it's not usable
  under Linux...well fully usable.
 
 Yep, it's not fully usable but not really because of the widespread
 beliefs.
 
 There are some myths about Linux NTFS support (like it's experimental,
 corrupts data, etc) even if they aren't true for about 3-4 years. The fact
 is read is fully usable and write isn't fully implemented yet. This means
 that the write code either isn't written yet, disabled or works fine.
 
 The complexity of NTFS is comparable to XFS or Reiser4 what is worked on
 about 8+ developers full time, paid. The Linux NTFS kernel driver
 currently is developed by one guy voluntarily, in his spare time.
 
 Also note that there are two completely different kernel drivers and the
 write support was disabled long ago for the original, NT4 NTFS driver that
 indeed corrupted a lot of Windows 2000 partitions because, among others,
 the driver didn't check the NTFS version for backard compatibility.
 

There is another myth that you can't have reliable write support in
linux well at least if you're willing to compromise (not really native
kernel support ...). There is a way to use the native ntfs.sys driver
in linux so that you use the microsoft librairy via wine to access
their filesystem. Here's some links that are interesting :

http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/6261

Enjoy !

Jean-Francois

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-18 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:

 There is another myth that you can't have reliable write support in
 linux well at least if you're willing to compromise (not really native
 kernel support ...). There is a way to use the native ntfs.sys driver
 in linux 

There are even more ways for read-write NTFS, I wrote about them here:

http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#write

 so that you use the microsoft librairy via wine to access
 their filesystem. Here's some links that are interesting :
 
 http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
 http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/6261

Captive has its own problems. The most serious is that it does can corrupt
and destroy the filesystem. Several users reported this on the Captive
mailing list and it's not solved yet because its development was stopped
over a year ago. Fairly enough, these are also listed on its web site.

Szaka


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Lucas
I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of
measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to
do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by
an IP.
may be this helps?
--- from man iftop ---
SOURCE / DEST AGGREGATION
   By pressing s or d while iftop is running, all traffic for each 
source or
   destination  will be aggregated together.  This is most useful when 
iftop
   is run in promiscuous mode, or is run on a gateway machine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root's passwd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
From /etc/make.conf:

CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j2


The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if
the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST
to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow.  It let me set
the password...

On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 10:28 +0200, Ivan Yosifov wrote:
 What are your CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf ? What does 'emerge --pretend
 --update --deep world' say ( shadow may be missing some dep ) ? 
 
 On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:05 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  livecd root # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
  mount: none already mounted or /mnt/gentoo/proc busy
  mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/gentoo/proc
  livecd root # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
  livecd / # env-update
   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
   * Caching service dependencies...
  livecd / # source /etc/profile
  livecd / # passwd
  Illegal instruction
  livecd / #
  
  
  On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:58 +, Stanczak Group wrote:
   
   Michael Sullivan wrote:
   
   I've finally got Gentoo installed on my wife's computer except for one
   small hitch; it won't let me set root's password.  I tried it locally
   (sitting at her computer) and it gave me an error, so I started up the
   sshd server and ssh'd over from my PC and tried it again getting the
   same error.  I have pasted the output below:
   
   livecd / # passwd
   Illegal instruction
   livecd / # passwd root
   Illegal instruction
   livecd / #
   
   Is there a way to fix this?  What went wrong?  I updated the shadow
   package, but other than that I can't think of anything that would cause
   this.  I can set root's password before I go into the chrooted
   environment, but when I'm actually in the chrooted environment I get the
   output you see above...
   
   
   
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   Are you mounting proc ,env-update and source /etc/profile from live cd?
   
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Dave Nebinger
 From /etc/make.conf:
 
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 MAKEOPTS=-j2
 
 
 The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if
 the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST
 to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow.  It let me set
 the password...

Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going
to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3).

Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll
run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on.



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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Matthew Cline
 Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going
 to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3).
 
 Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll
 run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on.

Hope you have a spare week or so with a machine that slow. :)


Matt

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RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Hope you have a spare week or so with a machine that slow. :)

Either that or a distcc compile farm, which is what I use for keeping a
gentoo p133 system up to date...



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[gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Will Clifton
I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get
too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is
the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of
reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag 
to prescott causes
problems. Has any one else experienced this? 

Any opinions are appreciated.

cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu
makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? )

Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that
somewhere too. 

Thank you for the help.
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RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the
new i586 CFlag?  Do I need to rebuild the kernel too?  It took twelve
hours yesterday to build the kernel.  Would the packages being built for
i686 affect the networking capabilities too?  I rebooted the PC and
couldn't connect to my LAN.  I rebooted with the LiveCD and copied
over /etc/resolv.conf and copied over /etc/conf.d/net from my main
client PC (running Gentoo with a similar setup except that networking
works).  8139too successfully modprobed.  net.eth0 was running.
netmount was running.  Gentoo failed to get a DHCP address from my
router and it couldn't connect to my network, but I can't figure out
why...

On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:17 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:
  From /etc/make.conf:
  
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
  MAKEOPTS=-j2
  
  
  The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if
  the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST
  to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow.  It let me set
  the password...
 
 Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going
 to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3).
 
 Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll
 run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on.
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash stopped to work in mozilla/epiphany/firefox

2005-02-18 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le vendredi 18 février 2005 à 15:34 +0100, Frédéric Grosshans a écrit :
 Macromedia's Flash recently stopped working in epiphany. I've probably
 done something stupid but I don't know what. 

To be more specific, epiphany (and othe gecko-based browser, like
mozilla and firefox) seems to use a partially working flash plugin:

on a flash-using webpage (eg http://www.tokyoplastic.com/start.swf ) I
see a gray rectangle instead of the animation, but I can hear the sound
and a right-click on the gray rectangle gives the usual flash menu.

  I'm totally lost here, would really appreciate any suggestion

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[gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread James
Hello all,

BACKGROUND:
I've been looking at :http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cvs-tutorial.xml
and  http://www.fredshack.com/docs/cvs.html,
and the book by Karl Fogel(1999) to learn more about cvs.

Here are a few questions that I've somehow missed.

ffmpeg is the cvs repository I'm using as a learning example.
To install cvs, I simple used 'emerge cvs', it installed just fine.

Then to initialize cvs I issued:
#cvs -d /usr/local/cvsroot init

Then following the ffmpeg site instructions I issued:
#cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co ffmpeg

First question:
So it's all there, but root owns every thing. Should the file
be owned by a users? What permissions should they have? Or is the
way I've set it up so far OK? Should it be setup in the users
directory?

In /usr/local/cvsroot/ffmpeg I have:
-rw---   1 root root126 Nov 25 01:31 .cvsignore
-rw---   1 root root  26428 May 25  2002 COPYING
-rw---   1 root root602 Nov 26 09:13 CREDITS
drwx--   2 root root128 Feb 18 11:02 CVS
-rw---   1 root root  12794 Nov 20 18:40 Changelog
-rw---   1 root root  41386 Jul 15  2004 Doxyfile
-rw---   1 root root426 May 25  2002 INSTALL
-rw---   1 root root   4610 Jan 21 17:16 Makefile
-rw---   1 root root445 Apr 16  2003 README
snip


Second, question:
As I experiment around with this code, any directories
I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according
to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded
until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory
that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code.
What did I miss?


Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any suggestions
on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an
IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?


James


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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Karsten Baumgarten
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Will Clifton wrote:
| I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2.
Before I get
| too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my
chip. Is
| the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got
out of
| reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the
- -march flag to prescott causes
| problems. Has any one else experienced this?
|
| Any opinions are appreciated.
|
| cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow
| -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
- -O3 is generally discouraged (it may break some packages), but if you
want to get the most out of your chip, it is what you want.
- -mmmx, -msse -m3dnow are implied by -march and thus are redundant.
You might want to add -ftracer. It provides some extra information for
the compiler to improve later optimizations and is safe (i.e., it might
speed up your apps, but never slows them down or increases their size).
In general please don't add every flag to your make.conf that looks
really cool. Usually these tend to break stuff rather than improving
anything. Also CFLAGS are no magic speed boosters. The difference
between (the usually safe) -O2 and -O3 is usually negligibly small (or
even zero), for the price of a potential unstable system. You have been
warned. :)
| chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu
| makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? )
Yes. The -j flag should be set to num(CPU) + 1. Since your CPU has HT
technology, you virtually have two CPUs.
| Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that
| somewhere too.
You definitely want SMP (see above).
Regards,
Karsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Benjamin Martin
On 10:55 Fri 18 Feb , Will Clifton wrote:
You can use march=pentium4 and -msse3 to use the SSE3 instruction set
(although there isn't much code around using it). I've been using this
quite successfully for a while.
Also you should enable SMP support in the kernel config.

Cheers,
Ben


 I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get
 too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is
 the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of
 reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag 
 to prescott causes
 problems. Has any one else experienced this? 
 
 Any opinions are appreciated.
 
 cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow
 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
 chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? )
 
 Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that
 somewhere too. 
 
 Thank you for the help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Karsten Baumgarten
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James wrote:
[snip]
| Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any
suggestions
| on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
| Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use
of an
| IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?
Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS
support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs
commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it).
Regards,
Karsten
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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread James
Karsten Baumgarten karsten.baumgarten at gmx.net writes:

 
 James wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 | Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any
 suggestions
 | on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
 | Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use
 of an
 | IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?
 
 Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS
 support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs
 commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it).

So what your are inferring/suggesting is to learn CVS, which is my current 
goal, 
use traditional command-line methods to code, compile, and manage
my work, while issuing CVS commands from the command line

After I get a deep understanding of cvs, then move on to a IDE?
Never use and IDE?

I guess an IDE with CVS built in is a good idea for converting PC developers
to linux/gentoo quickly?


James






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[gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage

2005-02-18 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package
has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla?
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Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage

2005-02-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package
has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla?
Yes. Preferably with an updated ebuild attached. :-) .
Holly
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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Feb 18 16:59, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Then to initialize cvs I issued:
 #cvs -d /usr/local/cvsroot init

This isn't necessary for simply checking out files.  Unless you want to
*host* a CVS repo, you can simply do your next step:

 #cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co ffmpeg

If you just do this, it creates an ffmpeg directory within your *current
directory*, with your user's normal permissions - not in /usr/local or
some other equally unfriendly place.  Then you can feel free to play
around all you like.

 Second, question:
 As I experiment around with this code, any directories
 I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according
 to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded
 until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory
 that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code.
 What did I miss?

You're connecting to their CVS repo anonymously, hence the anonymous in
the checkout command (co = checkout).  You don't have permission to
commit anything, so don't worry about it :)  They need to specifically
give you an account to do anything other than download the files.
(On a more technical note, no, any directories you create wouldn't appear
in the repo anyway - you have to cvs add dir first.)

 Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any 
 suggestions
 on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
 Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an
 IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?

You'll probably slap me for this one, but use vim ;)  You can get easy CVS
integration, and after you learn vim, everything else feels painfully
inadequate.

Hope this helps,
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RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Ivan Yosifov
I strongly suggest you start over. The kernel in particular filters most
if not all of the user set CFLAGS , because the kernel has very special
requirements. Yes , you will loose a lot of time , but I don't think the
risk of having random problems all over the place is worth it in the
long term. In fact I am surprised a system compiled for the wrong CPU
comes up at all ( had you set more aggressive optimizations it would not
have :) ) ! IMO you should set -march=pentium2
( 
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3/gcc/i386-and-x86-64-Options.html#i386%20and%20x86-64%20Options
 ). I am not very confident of what CHOST does , so I suggest you ask here 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-8.html?sid=814d2c74bcc970023b312b881319334e
 what CHOST is right for you. Good luck.

On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 10:43 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the
 new i586 CFlag?  Do I need to rebuild the kernel too?  It took twelve
 hours yesterday to build the kernel.  Would the packages being built for
 i686 affect the networking capabilities too?  I rebooted the PC and
 couldn't connect to my LAN.  I rebooted with the LiveCD and copied
 over /etc/resolv.conf and copied over /etc/conf.d/net from my main
 client PC (running Gentoo with a similar setup except that networking
 works).  8139too successfully modprobed.  net.eth0 was running.
 netmount was running.  Gentoo failed to get a DHCP address from my
 router and it couldn't connect to my network, but I can't figure out
 why...
 
 On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:17 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:
   From /etc/make.conf:
   
   CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
   CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
   CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
   MAKEOPTS=-j2
   
   
   The machine is has a Pentium MMX 199MgHz processor, so I'm not sure if
   the i686 is right (I thought i686 was a Pentium II) so I changed CHOST
   to x86 and changed CFLAGS to i586 and re-emerged shadow.  It let me set
   the password...
  
  Ah, but if you built the box from gentoo stage 1 or 2, you're probably going
  to want to start all over again (not necessary if built from stage 3).
  
  Likely the entire system was built using the i686 architecture and you'll
  run into other problems (i.e. illegal instruction errors) as time goes on.
  
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] is it possible to emerge only the docs for a package

2005-02-18 Thread Matan Peled
John Myers wrote:
On Thursday 17 February 2005 11:51, Catalin Trifu wrote:
   I don't usually use docs, so i add doc to package.use but i forgot :)
to add it to a package.
   is there a possibility to emerge only the docs from a package
Nope. You'll have to re-merge the whole package. Sorry.
Unless its Java, or Gnome, because those have a package name-docs (The useflag 
just adds a dependency ... )

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RE: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo installation won't let me set root'spasswd [SOLVED]

2005-02-18 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le vendredi 18 février 2005 à 10:43 -0600, Michael Sullivan a écrit :
 I told the PC to emerge world; will that rebuild everything with the
 new i586 CFlag? 

no. You have to emerge --emptytree world (or emerge -e world)

  Do I need to rebuild the kernel too? 

No. The kernel set its own flags.

  It took twelve hours yesterday to build the kernel.  

That means you'll have quite a long time for recompiling everything (I
think gcc and glibc). If you started with a generic x86 stage3, you'll
only need to recompile what you emerged. The rest can be done as a
background task, since it would only be for optimization.

 Would the packages being built for
 i686 affect the networking capabilities too?

It can affect ANYTHING compiled with this flag...

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Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage

2005-02-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:46:01 -0500 Matthew Daubenspeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| What is the polite and acceptable way of pointing out that a package
| has a newer release then that which is in portage? Bugzilla?

Bugzilla, but not straight away. Leave it for at *least* a few days
after the release. We usually get release announcements anyway, and it
can take a while to get working ebuilds into the tree -- bugspam thirty
seconds after a new release just wastes our time.

On the other hand, sometimes we miss things, so a bug after a reasonable
amount of time can help.

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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread James
Thomas Kirchner lists at halffull.org writes:


  Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. 
  Any suggestions
  on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
  Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use of an
  IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?
 
 You'll probably slap me for this one, but use vim ;)  You can get easy CVS
 integration, and after you learn vim, everything else feels painfully
 inadequate.

Actually no, I use vi/elvis/vim as my preferred editor. IDE's are nice too,
especially when you work with a PC(MS) developers and want to entice them to use
Linux.

Easy integration of CVS/VIM? Is this just the normal command line commonality,
or are their modules/tricks/configs that make using cvs with vim more 
attractive?
Please elaborate...?

James





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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread John Myers
On Friday 18 February 2005 09:06, Karsten Baumgarten wrote:
 Will Clifton wrote:
 | Also, will I be wanting to enable SMP support in my kernel? I read that
 | somewhere too.
 
 You definitely want SMP (see above).
You also need SMT (that's the HyperThreading part)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-18 Thread Chris Cox
Dennis Taylor wrote:
Thanks to all who have responded,
I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file.  I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right.  I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right.  More on that later.
 

I just downloaded a LiveCD made by Slackware which also has the latest 
KDE 3.4 beta 2 and xorg-x11 installed on it. It is much smaller than a 
Knoppix LiveCD since it was made for testing the new KDE beta version 
mainly.  You might want to  take a quick look at it.  Knoppix still uses 
XFree86 and I've had problems in the past in using their config files 
with xorg-x11.

The following links may be useful to you:
http://osdir.com/Article4141.phtml
http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Antoine
James wrote:
Karsten Baumgarten karsten.baumgarten at gmx.net writes:

James wrote:
[snip]
| Third, I want to use an IDE such as Eclipse, Anjuta or whatever. Any
suggestions
| on which IDE to use?  Any examples or Tutorials on using the IDE with CVS?
| Fogel's book nor any docs/tutorials I've found do not address the use
of an
| IDE with CVS.  Thoughts or suggestions?
I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book 
(http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS 
and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply 
fantastic. It takes you from complete beginner to expert, in a very 
gentle way. While CVS is much more common there are still plenty of 
subversion reps around. Once you are comfortable with subversion you 
will be fine with CVS. There is also a section in the book which 
explains the differences between the two.

Since you want to use an IDE anyway... Eclipse and Anjuta both have CVS
support built in. Using one of these avoids messing around with cvs
commands (though you won't learn how to deal with it).
Most IDEs have some support (kdevelop, netbeans,...)

So what your are inferring/suggesting is to learn CVS, which is my current goal, 
use traditional command-line methods to code, compile, and manage
my work, while issuing CVS commands from the command line
Certainly best for the beginning, then when (if) you start using an ide 
and get interesting results you can either do it from CL or understand 
what the ide is doing

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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Feb 18 18:09, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Actually no, I use vi/elvis/vim as my preferred editor. IDE's are nice too,
 especially when you work with a PC(MS) developers and want to entice them to 
 use
 Linux.

Meh, I've given up there ;)  If they're not impressed with the power
native to *nix, let them suffer! :D

 Easy integration of CVS/VIM? Is this just the normal command line commonality,
 or are their modules/tricks/configs that make using cvs with vim more 
 attractive?
 Please elaborate...?

Yeah, there are vim plugins that integrate CVS directly into the editor.
I don't personally use them, as I'm a control freak console-masochist, but
I've heard they're nice.  Check vim.org's scripts section.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, James wrote:

 Second, question:
 As I experiment around with this code, any directories
 I create are automatically appear in the main cvs repository, according
 to the gentoo-cvs-tutorial? I understand that my code does not get uploaded
 until I issue a 'cvs commit', but I'm not real keen on creating a directory
 that will be uploaded to the main repository, whilst I muck around the code.
 What did I miss?

CVS doesn't handle directories very well. Specifically, when you move
stuff around you might find yourself having to manually remove old
directories.

This is one reason why a lot of people use Subversion instead.


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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:55:51 -0600, Will Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Any opinions are appreciated.
 
 cflags=-O3 -mcpu=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -m3dnow
 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
 chost=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 makejopts=-j3 ( because of the 2 virtuals cpus?? )
 
At least remove -m3dnow, it's amd only.

regards,

Jean-Francois

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 Thank you for the help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Antoine wrote:

 I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion
 (http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book
 (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS
 and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply
 fantastic.

Just to add:
The latest O'Reilly Subversion book is open source:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Sascha Lucas wrote:

  I have a web server with many IP aliases - but it looks there no way of
  measuring throughput of the pseduo-interfaces. Any suggestions on how to
  do that? Ideally we'd like to measure total and current bandwidth used by
  an IP.

 may be this helps?

 --- from man iftop ---

 SOURCE / DEST AGGREGATION
 By pressing s or d while iftop is running, all traffic for each
 source or
 destination  will be aggregated together.  This is most useful when
 iftop
 is run in promiscuous mode, or is run on a gateway machine.

I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating
graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption
of a client's site.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New versions of software not in portage

2005-02-18 Thread Spider
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 18:42 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 Yes. Preferably with an updated ebuild attached. :-) .

Please, only do this if there are actual changes to the build.  if all
you do is cp $olbduild $newbuild,  don't bother attaching it. its more
work to download, compare and review it then.

A note that a cp'ed version works for you is good however, since that
does imply that you have tested it, and it works.  Gives us some
expectation and shows that you care, rather than just add to the burden
without participating.


Small subtleties to help your friendly (or less so) neighbourhood
developers burn out in a slower pace. ; )

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[gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?

2005-02-18 Thread Grant
I need to ftp different text files to different systems (google,
yahoo, etc.), and I'd like to be able to set up a cron job so it is
done automatically every day.  I'm also concerned about sending my
password for these systems over the internet in clear text.  A
previous thread tells me wput can ftp files with a single command and
sftp can send files securely.  Can sftp send files securely with a
single command?  I would just emerge it and figure it out but it has a
long list of dev-perl dependencies for me.  Does anyone use sftp like
that?

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] Re: gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel.

2005-02-18 Thread Frank Lynch
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:39:24 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed
 the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the
 kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff.
 Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy.
 
 However when my system tried to start X  gnome it locked up. X did
 appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for
 starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I
 couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even
 kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box
 to disable gnome and reboot the machine.
 
 I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I
 rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome
 based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if
 perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash?
 
 I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this
 at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions
 here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from
 X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes?
 I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here.
 
 I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop,
 the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches
 that I applied are at [2].
 
 any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.
 thanks in advance, 
 --Frank
 
 [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash
 [2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/

I just tested this using initramfs and a manually built kernel, but
the problem still persists.
The issue here is not metacity. I can launch X, metacity, nautilus,
gnome-panel, and everything works fine. The problem is when my machine
boots directly into gnome and launches gnome-session... I might try
re-emerging gnome-session. Again if anyone has any ideas I'd
appreciate it.
cheers,
---Frank

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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread James
Thomas Kirchner lists at halffull.org writes:

 Yeah, there are vim plugins that integrate CVS directly into the editor.
 I don't personally use them, as I'm a control freak console-masochist, but
 I've heard they're nice.  Check vim.org's scripts section.


Thanks Tom,
Your advice is well received, as I have diverse goals with CVS:
participate in several opensource projects
orgainize my legacy code for ease of retreival
managed embedded code for diverse hardware platforms
managing internal coding projects by individuals or small teams
Integration of code into larger programs

Thanks for all of your input.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?

2005-02-18 Thread Luke Ravitch
On 2005-02-18 11:00, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can sftp send files securely with a single command?  I would just
 emerge it and figure it out but it has a long list of dev-perl
 dependencies for me.  Does anyone use sftp like that?

If you have sftp, you have ssh.  How about scp?  It's part of ssh and
works just like plain old cp except that you can specify remote
files.  It's a single command.

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[gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Knecht
Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really
not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so
what app would be better?

Here's a picture of my machine running Gnome and Mozilla immediately
after a reboot.

top - 11:02:50 up 3 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.69, 0.43, 0.17
Tasks:  62 total,   1 running,  61 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  4.7% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 95.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:775308k total,   322024k used,   453284k free,38472k buffers
Swap:  1536184k total,0k used,  1536184k free,   161860k cached

I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about
700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but
after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of
swap was still in use.

I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by
default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for
me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back
to something close to this reboot state?

Thanks in advance,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Re: gensplash with 2.6.10-r6 kernel. [solved]

2005-02-18 Thread Frank Lynch
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:01:11 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:39:24 +, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Folks,
  Yesterday I tried to rebuild my kernel to use gensplash, I followed
  the very good howto at [1] and opted to compile gensplash into the
  kernel using genkernel. I am not using the initramfs image stuff.
  Everything appeared to work just fine I get all that lovely eye-candy.
 
  However when my system tried to start X  gnome it locked up. X did
  appear to start, the gnome splash screen appeared, but the icon for
  starting metacity never appeared. X locked up so badly that I
  couldn't drop back to the terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1, nor could I even
  kill it with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. I ended up having to ssh into the box
  to disable gnome and reboot the machine.
 
  I then edited my rc.conf so that I'd start a plain old X session. I
  rebooted, and everything worked just fine. I could even run gnome
  based applications (like evolution). So I'm starting to wonder if
  perhaps there is a conflict between metacity and gensplash?
 
  I still have that gensplash kernel available, so I can reproduce this
  at will, but I'm at a stand still. Can anyone offer any suggestions
  here - where should I start looking? Should I grab stack traces from
  X, metacity gnome-session or some other processes?
  I'd appreciate any ideas on how I should debug this from here.
 
  I should also mention that I'm running all this on a Dell d600 laptop,
  the kernel has been patched to use the radeonfb details of the patches
  that I applied are at [2].
 
  any help suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.
  thanks in advance,
  --Frank
 
  [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash
  [2] http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/
 
 I just tested this using initramfs and a manually built kernel, but
 the problem still persists.
 The issue here is not metacity. I can launch X, metacity, nautilus,
 gnome-panel, and everything works fine. The problem is when my machine
 boots directly into gnome and launches gnome-session... I might try
 re-emerging gnome-session. Again if anyone has any ideas I'd
 appreciate it.
 cheers,
 ---Frank
 

ok, I resolved this, for the record the problem was that I hadn't
re-emerged alsa-driver since I migrated from 2.6.9 to 2.6.10.
cheers,
--Frank

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[gentoo-user] Re: A query on C/C++ and GDB

2005-02-18 Thread Philip Nilsson
On 17-02-05 20:47 -0600, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What are the libraries/programs that need to be compiled with '+debug'
 so that GDB has *all* the info to step through library functions? At
 present GDB does not seem to have STL info.
 
 Must I re-compile/re-emerge
 1. glibc
 2. libstdc++-v3
 ...?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Hareesh
 
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Run ldd on the program you want to debug to know what it
links against.

Sample output from ldd `which vim`:

linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f9b000)
libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0xb7f94000)
libperl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libperl.so.1 (0xb7e57000)
libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0xb7e53000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d39000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7d16000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d12000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7cfe000)
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb7ce9000)
libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0xb7cbb000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4a092000)

Which means glibc, ncurses, libperl, gpm and whatever libnsl
and libcrypt belong to :)

Time to being out equery...

I see, libcrypt is glibc and libnsl is also glibc!

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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread James
Antoine melser.anton at gmail.com writes:

 I suggest you forget CVS for the moment and try subversion 
 (http://subversion.tigris.org/), if only for the book 
 (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/). Subversion is a better version of CVS 
 and everything that could be done the same way was. The book is simply 
 fantastic. It takes you from complete beginner to expert, in a very 
 gentle way. While CVS is much more common there are still plenty of 
 subversion reps around. Once you are comfortable with subversion you 
 will be fine with CVS. There is also a section in the book which 
 explains the differences between the two.

Hm,

The web page looks interesting, your sales_pitch is inviting, so let me
see if I understand what your are saying

I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs 
respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that 
I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS?
That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to
actually use CVS?

If/when I decide to use an IDE (eclipse, Anjuta) It will have an option
for Subversion style CVS capabilities?

PS, I like the idea of Subversion, but, I'm not really running into too much
difficulty with CVS (of coarse my experience with cvs is quite limited at this
point), it's just something new to get use to using

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[gentoo-user] Randr, xorg and KDE

2005-02-18 Thread Robert G. Siebeck
Hi,

I use x.org 6.8.0 and KDE 3.3.2.
In KDE control centre under devices - display I get the message that
my X server needs RANDR (Resize and Rotate), which is needed to change
the display resolution.
Actually RandR is supported and activated. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I
found the following line:

(==) RandR enabled

Why doesn't KDE allow me to change the resolution via the control centre?
I'm using ati-drivers 8.8.25, maybe it's got something to do with that?

Robert.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X and I855GM

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
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| | what is you problem with X?? 3D acceleration??
| |
| |
| | yes, the graphic card normally do it but it doesn't.and it seems for
| dvd
| | play, it use cpu ressource instead of using the graphic card accel.
|
| And of course you need to compile xorg-x11 with the opengl USE-Flag,
| and I recommend xv, too, to get proper acceleration.
|
| Sascha
|
| Thanks for helping, after that, how cani check if every is working fine,
| the 3D i mean?
| Can i use glxgear and glxinfo ?
Yes, why not? If glxinfo and glxgears both run nicely, you probably have
GLX running. glxinfo should return a line with hardware rendering:
yes, or something like that.
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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Feb 18 19:21, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs 
 respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that 
 I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS?
 That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to
 actually use CVS?

No, Subversion does not operate with CVS repos, only SVN-specific repos.
He was just saying that SVN is the better project (it is) and that the SVN
book is fantastic (it is) so it'd be beneficial to learn SVN.  Your SVN
knowledge will apply to CVS, though, because the two systems are similar -
SVN is intended as a CVS replacement.  Plus, when SVN one day takes over
the world, you'll be in a better spot.

 If/when I decide to use an IDE (eclipse, Anjuta) It will have an option
 for Subversion style CVS capabilities?

It might, if the author was smart enough to either:
1) let you configure your cvs commands
2) integrate svn commands

 PS, I like the idea of Subversion, but, I'm not really running into too much
 difficulty with CVS (of coarse my experience with cvs is quite limited at this
 point), it's just something new to get use to using

If you're not having difficulty with CVS, you'll have even less with SVN,
and the extra knowledge will come in handy.  :)


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[gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Feb 18 18:58, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Thanks for all of your input.

No problem - revision control is a wonderful thing, and not as difficult
as it might seem at first.  There's really no other way to go, and when
you learn the basics, you'll find all kinds of uses you didn't think of
before.  (think /etc :D)

 Your advice is well received, as I have diverse goals with CVS:
 participate in several opensource projects

Great!  Fun, productive, rewarding to you *and* the project, and you get
to add just the features you want :)

 orgainize my legacy code for ease of retreival

Not only code - you can save a lot of things under revision control that
really makes access and retrieval a lot easier.
Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Lucas
I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating
graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption
of a client's site.
sorry... I know that net-analyzer/ntop can store RRD-graphes, but I have 
no experiences with that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Randr, xorg and KDE

2005-02-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Robert G. Siebeck wrote:
Hi,
I use x.org 6.8.0 and KDE 3.3.2.
In KDE control centre under devices - display I get the message that
my X server needs RANDR (Resize and Rotate), which is needed to change
the display resolution.
Actually RandR is supported and activated. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I
found the following line:
(==) RandR enabled
Why doesn't KDE allow me to change the resolution via the control centre?
I'm using ati-drivers 8.8.25, maybe it's got something to do with that?
Probably-- I'm using the mostly the same setup (KDE 3.3.2 and ati 
8.10.19 drivers), but under SuSE 9.2, and the message is the same in my 
configuration center. So it probably is a KDE/ATI conflict, as Wine has 
no problem changing resolution when needed (using the RANDR extension), 
and if Wine can't change it back (because of a crash), I can use 
CTRL+Alt++ to resize the desktop to normal resolution. However, these 
keys do not work under normal operation (if the resolution has not been 
changed by other means and I am changing it back).

So RANDR does work to some degree, as Wine can use it, but for normal 
use, it does not seem to-- and that definitely sounds like an ATI driver 
issue to me, fwiw. I don't usually change resolutions on the fly, so I 
don't know if it would work with other WMs, but it certainly does not 
with KDE. Maybe somebody else can confirm if it works with nVidia or 
other cards (Matrox, for instance).

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?

2005-02-18 Thread Mike Noble
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Grant wrote:
| I need to ftp different text files to different systems (google,
| yahoo, etc.), and I'd like to be able to set up a cron job so it is
| done automatically every day.  I'm also concerned about sending my
| password for these systems over the internet in clear text.  A
| previous thread tells me wput can ftp files with a single command and
| sftp can send files securely.  Can sftp send files securely with a
| single command?  I would just emerge it and figure it out but it has a
| long list of dev-perl dependencies for me.  Does anyone use sftp like
| that?
|
sftp is part of ssh, unless you have ssh accounts on these system you
will not be able to use it.  To allow sftp to work without the need
for a passwd you need have you public key in the system that is to
receive it and public key must be in the file ~/.ssh2/authorization
on the machine you are trying to access.
As far as I know google and yahoo does not have this capability.
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...

2005-02-18 Thread Mike Noble
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Mark Knecht wrote:
| Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really
| not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so
| what app would be better?
|
| Here's a picture of my machine running Gnome and Mozilla immediately
| after a reboot.
|
| top - 11:02:50 up 3 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.69, 0.43, 0.17
| Tasks:  62 total,   1 running,  61 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
| Cpu(s):  4.7% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 95.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,
0.0% si
| Mem:775308k total,   322024k used,   453284k free,38472k buffers
| Swap:  1536184k total,0k used,  1536184k free,   161860k cached
|
| I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about
| 700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but
| after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of
| swap was still in use.
|
| I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by
| default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for
| me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back
| to something close to this reboot state?
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Mark
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|
Try the command free -m, here is what the output looks like:
free -m
~ total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   756734 21  0337248
- -/+ buffers/cache:148608
Swap: 2016  0   2016
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RE: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?

2005-02-18 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I'm also concerned about sending my
 password for these systems over the internet in clear text.

Ah, you're doing that whether you are doing it manually or automagically via
a cron task.  So if you're not worried about the manual upload, why worry
about the automated upload?

Based on the systems you've mentioned (google  yahoo), alternate methods
(i.e. sftp, scp, etc.) might not be available to you.  Wput will work for
uploading via ftp and it's probably going to be your only option.



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[Fwd: RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo]

2005-02-18 Thread Chris Cox

 Original Message 
Subject:RE: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo
Date:   Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:24:58 -0500
From:   Dennis Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, I will look into that.  The Knoppix gave some ideas, but really seems to 
be a dry hole because of the differing versions of X11.  Will report back to the 
list when I know more.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo
Dennis Taylor wrote:
Thanks to all who have responded,
I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file.  I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right.  I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right.  More on that later.
 

I just downloaded a LiveCD made by Slackware which also has the latest 
KDE 3.4 beta 2 and xorg-x11 installed on it. It is much smaller than a 
Knoppix LiveCD since it was made for testing the new KDE beta version 
mainly.  You might want to  take a quick look at it.  Knoppix still uses 
XFree86 and I've had problems in the past in using their config files 
with xorg-x11.

The following links may be useful to you:
http://osdir.com/Article4141.phtml
http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/
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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...

2005-02-18 Thread Sascha Lucas
Hi Mark,
Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really
not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so
yes there is: i.e. free -m. the line starting with -/+ tells you 
what's used by apps without filesystem cache and buffers and what's free. 
the -m is for using MegaBytes as unit.

I was trying out a program that ended up using all of memory and about
700MB of swap. I eventually exited the program, cleanly I think, but
after 15 minutes Linux said that all 775MB of main memory and 400MB of
swap was still in use.
Once some thing swaped out it will swap in only if it is needed, or if you 
run swapoff -a. use top and M to sort by mem-usage. and make shure 
that your apps exited.

I understand that swap memory (and maybe main memory) are not by
default immediately given back to the system, but is there a way for
me to tell the system to go collect everything and get the system back
to something close to this reboot state?
No. You can not tell the system to forget all cache/buffers. The kernel 
reduces dynamicaly this memory regions if they are needed by your apps. 
You can imagine cache/buffers as quasi free. There is realy no reason to 
worry about. linux does not eat memory :-).

Sascha.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark
On 2005-02-18 13:04:53 -0500, A. Khattri wrote:
 CVS doesn't handle directories very well. Specifically, when you move
 stuff around you might find yourself having to manually remove old
 directories.

[16:16:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat ~/.cvsrc
cvs -q
checkout -P
update -d -P
diff -u -d -p

You don't need to manually remove old directories (i.e. those that are
empty as a result of you moving files around) if you use the -P option.

 This is one reason why a lot of people use Subversion instead.

Indeed.  The handling of directory renaming in CVS is, well,
nonexistent.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread James
Sascha Lucas sascha.lucas at rus.uni-stuttgart.de writes:


  I was hoping for some way of gathering this information and generating
  graphs like MRTG - would be nice to see historical bandwidth consumption
  of a client's site.
 
 sorry... I know that net-analyzer/ntop can store RRD-graphes, but I have 
 no experiences with that.

Thanks for pointing out about iftop and iptraf.
 I'll  take a look. RRD-style graphs would be
nice as was pointing out  by A. Khattri. 


Thanks again,

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] USB pendrive and missing /dev/sda

2005-02-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 04:29:32PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote
 For most of the time my machine has been set up, I have been able to use USB
 storage devices without any trouble (mostly). Recently, after a kernel
 upgrade, I found that /dev/sda had gone missing. The confusing part is that
 I hadn't changed any configurations in the kernel for anything at all. The
 modules are all loaded, and I can even see the device in lsusb, I just
 don't have a block device to mount it from. So, what could be causing this
 and how can I fix it? Manually creating the node isn't a problem, if I can
 find the major-minor numbers, which I can't.

  Scott correctly points out that the lowspeed option kills /dev/sda and
/dev/sda1 for USB.  However, you should now see /dev/uba and /dev/uba1
instead.  They serve the same function for USB.  Mount /dev/uba1 instead
of /dev/sda1, and it should work OK.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up memory statistics...

2005-02-18 Thread Richard Robson
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 11:08 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Is there a command that tells Linux to really memory that is really
 not in use? I'm sure top is not the best app for looking at this so
 what app would be better?

cat /proc/meminfo

and the following link to make sense of it...
http://linuxweblog.com/node/232


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[gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?

2005-02-18 Thread Christoph Eckert

Hi,


a short question:

I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess 
up my system.

Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of 
my current system, or affect it in any way?

Thanks for any hint.


 Best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?

2005-02-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:11:57 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote:

 Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of 
 my current system, or affect it in any way?

It is safe. As long as you leave devfs compiled into your kernel, you can
switch between udev and devfs at boot time, until you are happy with udev
and remove devfs altogether.

See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?

2005-02-18 Thread Christoph Eckert

 It is safe. As long as you leave devfs compiled into your
 kernel, you can switch between udev and devfs at boot time,
 until you are happy with udev and remove devfs altogether.

 See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

Argh. RTFM ;-) .


Thanks a lot for the link (which I could have found by 
myself :).


 Best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB pendrive and missing /dev/sda

2005-02-18 Thread Scott Taylor
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 17:05 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
   Scott correctly points out that the lowspeed option kills /dev/sda and
 /dev/sda1 for USB.  However, you should now see /dev/uba and /dev/uba1
 instead.  They serve the same function for USB.  Mount /dev/uba1 instead
 of /dev/sda1, and it should work OK.

I thought that too at first, though the uba driver did not work with all
the usb devices that the regular usb-storage did. I'd gotten one of the
lexar 6-way cf/sd/etc flash readers, that registered the fact that it
was plugged in yet it only would spew hundreds of errors in dmesg and
seemed to think the new device had zero storage. But uba worked fine
reading the same memory card with a sandisk compact flash reader. The
regular usb-storage worked perfectly with all the readers I have. 

Not sure what kind of devices require the low performance driver
instead of the old reliable usb-storage, but unless you absolutely need
that, I'd avoid it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CVS gentoo tutorial

2005-02-18 Thread Antoine
Thomas Kirchner wrote:
* On Feb 18 19:21, James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I can more easily learn Subversion, and use it to check in code from a cvs 
respository, modify the code and send it back to a CVS repository (one that 
I do not control, such as ffmpeg) easier than actually employing CVS?
That is, It's easier to use Subversion with an existing CVS project, than to
actually use CVS?

No, Subversion does not operate with CVS repos, only SVN-specific repos.
He was just saying that SVN is the better project (it is) and that the SVN
book is fantastic (it is) so it'd be beneficial to learn SVN.  Your SVN
knowledge will apply to CVS, though, because the two systems are similar -
SVN is intended as a CVS replacement.  Plus, when SVN one day takes over
the world, you'll be in a better spot.
All we have to do now is convince my boss! ;-)
Cheers
Antoine
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[gentoo-user] trouble with logrotate apache2

2005-02-18 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all,

Whenever I do a logrotate, it seems my apache2 stops logging though
there are new log files created but with 0 size.  I'm using syslog-ng if
it matters.  

I have the following logrotate configuration for apache2 (the prerotate
scp works without prompting because I've exchanged keys):

/var/log/apache2/*log {
rotate 28
daily
prerotate
/usr/bin/scp /var/log/apache2/access_log
grettir:/var/log/videodrome
postrotate
/bin/kill -USR1 `cat /var/run/apache2.pid 2/dev/null`
2 /dev/null || true
endscript
}

The above postrotate action I've ripped from a Red Hat system which
successfully logrotates but it didn't make any difference.
I've tried replacing the postrotate with /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and
I've also tried editing /etc/conf.d/apache2 to use restart instead of
graceful to no avail.  I've also tried adding missingok
notifempty create 0644 root root and sharedscripts but it doesn't make a
difference.  

If I manually do a /etc/init.d/apache2 restart the logging resumes.

What can I do?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?

2005-02-18 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Has worked for months here.  Check out the udev tutorial on Gentoo and the 
links in the tutorial.  I'm running an all udev system.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Christoph Eckert wrote:
Hi,
a short question:
I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess
up my system.
Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of
my current system, or affect it in any way?
Thanks for any hint.
Best regards
   ce
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unattended sftp?

2005-02-18 Thread Grant
  I'm also concerned about sending my
  password for these systems over the internet in clear text.
 
 Ah, you're doing that whether you are doing it manually or automagically via
 a cron task.  So if you're not worried about the manual upload, why worry
 about the automated upload?

I'm not any more worried about it with the automation.  Just a misunderstanding.

 Based on the systems you've mentioned (google  yahoo), alternate methods
 (i.e. sftp, scp, etc.) might not be available to you.  Wput will work for
 uploading via ftp and it's probably going to be your only option.

I think you're right.  Does this mean anyone could easily intercept my
login and password and log in as me?

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] Anyone using mod_security with Apache 1.x???

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri


I have this installed and running on a web server but I see no LoadModule
or AddModules commands for it in apache.conf. I do see an Include for the
mod_security.conf file. How can I know this DSO is loaded and working? I
see nothing in the logs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-18 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, James wrote:

 Thanks for pointing out about iftop and iptraf.
  I'll  take a look. RRD-style graphs would be
 nice as was pointing out  by A. Khattri.

Cacti is great for RRD graphs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD copy?

2005-02-18 Thread Aleksandar Radovic
This is anything but proper Linux solution: DVD shrink under wine works
perfectly for me. 

On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 09:34 +0100, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I want to make a backup copy of my DVDs, but since they are copy protected 
 I can't just copy them via k3b. I thougt I could rip it with dvd:rip and 
 then burn it to DVD, but it seems that dvd:rip is only for backups to 
 CD-ROM (or did I miss something?).
 
 Isn't there a CloneDVD-like tool for Linux, which I can use to make backup 
 copies of my copy protected DVDs?
 
 Greetings and TIA, Matthias
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

2005-02-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:06:51AM +, Ian K wrote

 | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there
 | a command to show the ISA devices?
 |
 Yes think so. Try lshw | grep ISA, 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an
 ISA-device on my mobo.
 HTH
 Rumen
 
 
 Hi again.
 I emerged this program. Upon trying that line lshw | grep ISA
 I get no output.  After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output,
 but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this
 soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME.  (I dual boot.) I
 just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying
 without sound. Thanks!
 Ian

  If it's an ISA unit, the next question is... do you have ISA enabled
in your kernel.  Run make menuconfig and at the top level, you'll see

Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA)  ---

  Go into that item and make sure that ISA support is enabled.  If it
hasn't been enabled, enable it, rebuild the kernel and reboot to the new
kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:55:51AM -0600, Will Clifton wrote
 I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2. Before I get
 too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the most out of my chip. Is
 the following too much? I'm not a programmer, but this is what I got out of
 reading some forum posts and man gcc. I also read the setting the -march flag 
 to prescott causes
 problems. Has any one else experienced this? 
 
 Any opinions are appreciated.

  -O3 is a baad idea.  Not only does it break some programs, it can
actually slow down others that don't break.  In order for us to be able
to better advise you, can you capture the output from cat /proc/cpuinfo
and post it?  The important lines are model name and flags.

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[gentoo-user] Best way to make the laptop sleep?

2005-02-18 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
Hi,

Times at which I am not by my laptop I leave my laptop locked using
'xlock'. I know this isn't the best way because 'xlock' consumes many
CPU cycles.

What is the best way to lock my laptop so that when I do resume work
my laptop isn't at 75 degree celcius (My CPU fan doesn't seem to stop
or slow down either).

Moreover are there any recent guides/docs to enable power management
features on a laptop (I've already checked the Gentoo guide; Any other
guides out there?).

Thanks,

Hareesh

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious lockups

2005-02-18 Thread John Patrick Coder
the most common cause of random freezing is bad capacitors on the mother
board bad ones usually bulge up or leak a crystalizing liquid.

If you have an MSI board made with tiwanese caps this is the problem.
Don't be discouraged from trying to recap your board I have had 100%
success trying just be slow and careful and do a few practice solders most
of the time you can get away with just replacing the bad ones.



On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, A. Khattri wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Matt Garman wrote:

  I'm hesitant to try this, only because the lockups are so random.
  It's been almost two weeks since it last happened; I have a feeling
  that I could get lucky and it won't happen again forever (or it
  could happen in the next five minutes).  Either way, it's hard to
  determine the solution when I make a change and then just wait.

 Other possible causes of lockups and/or crashes:

 Bad RAM (boot the memtest image from an install CD to check).

 Not enough cooling - check fans all work. checl heatsinks on CPU - replace
 with better ones (copper base?) if they seem to be very very hot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS questions for Prescott

2005-02-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 18 February 2005 08:36 pm, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:55:51AM -0600, Will Clifton wrote

  I have a question about my make.conf for my new P4 Prescott 3.2.
  Before I get too busy installing I want to set my CFLAGS to get the
  most out of my chip. Is the following too much? I'm not a programmer,
  but this is what I got out of reading some forum posts and man gcc. I
  also read the setting the -march flag to prescott causes problems.
  Has any one else experienced this?

The particular argument to march has to be recognized by gcc; I'm not sure 
what versions (if any) supported prescott as this argument.

 
  Any opinions are appreciated.

   -O3 is a baad idea.

Guys, I've been running -O3 ever since I installed gentoo.  It's not broken 
on PII (or any x86 arch).  Theoretically, it can slow down programs 
because of cache issues; I haven't seen this effect in practice.

-O3 is edgy though.  It has been broken (and certain arches) before, and 
may be now or in the future.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

2005-02-18 Thread Ian K




Hi again!
Yes, upon going into the menuconfig, my current kernel does have ISA
Support enabled (*).
Please also note that the appropriate kernel option for my card:

Device drivers
-Sound
--Sound Card Support (*)
---ALSA
ALSA (*)
ISA Devices
-Yamaha OPL3-SA2/SA3 (M)

Upon modprobing (modprobe snd-opl3sa2), I get 
FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2
(lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound.isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such
device.

Thanks again!!
Ian


Walter Dnes wrote:

  On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:06:51AM +, Ian K wrote

  
  

  | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there
| a command to show the ISA devices?
|
Yes think so. Try "lshw | grep ISA", 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an
ISA-device on my mobo.
HTH
Rumen


  

Hi again.
I emerged this program. Upon trying that line "lshw | grep ISA"
I get no output.  After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output,
but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this
soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME.  (I dual boot.) I
just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying
without sound. Thanks!
Ian

  
  
  If it's an ISA unit, the next question is... do you have ISA enabled
in your kernel.  Run "make menuconfig" and at the top level, you'll see

Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA)  ---

  Go into that item and make sure that ISA support is enabled.  If it
hasn't been enabled, enable it, rebuild the kernel and reboot to the new
kernel.

  




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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to make the laptop sleep?

2005-02-18 Thread Ian K
Hi there,
Perhaps your laptop's BIOS has an option so that when you close the 
panel/screen
your laptop goes into sleep by itself? This feature obviously doesn't 
require
Windows. I also know that some of the newer laptops and pretty much all
Toshiba made ones allow you to control your fan with the fan utility for 
Toshiba
Laptops. (Emerge toshiba-utils).
HTH
Ian

Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
Hi,
Times at which I am not by my laptop I leave my laptop locked using
'xlock'. I know this isn't the best way because 'xlock' consumes many
CPU cycles.
What is the best way to lock my laptop so that when I do resume work
my laptop isn't at 75 degree celcius (My CPU fan doesn't seem to stop
or slow down either).
Moreover are there any recent guides/docs to enable power management
features on a laptop (I've already checked the Gentoo guide; Any other
guides out there?).
Thanks,
Hareesh
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