Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not show all imap folders

[Alexander Puchmayr]

On Montag, 22. Jänner 2024, 10:48:02 CET Michael wrote:
> In Kmail make sure you have subscribed on the server folders you want Kmail
> to show.  Right-click on the top folder and select 'Serverside
> Subscription' to show the tree of folders on the server.

Indeed, that was missing. I only looked at "local subscriptions", not server 
side subscriptions. Now folders are shown :-)

Thanks a lot
Alex

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not show all imap folders

[Michael]

On Monday, 22 January 2024 08:56:00 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> On 22/01/2024 07:04, Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
> > I checked folder subscriptions in kmail, but I do not see the missing
> > folders there either. Also akonadi-console does not show them. I also
> > tried curl imaps:///
> > Showing all of the missing folders, so I think its an akonadi/kmail
> > problem
> > and not an imap problem.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> I occasionally get this problem in Thunderbird, and one of the options
> in folder properties is "delete the index". If you've got that option
> for the parent folder, do it, and then kmail should rebuild from scratch
> and find the folders.
> 
> Cheers,
> Wol

Hmm ... I never received the OP message, only Wol's reply made it through. :-/

In Kmail make sure you have subscribed on the server folders you want Kmail to 
show.  Right-click on the top folder and select 'Serverside Subscription' to 
show the tree of folders on the server.

To re-index the messages in Akonadi you can right-click on the top folder, 
e.g. Inbox, then select 'Folder Properties', 'Maintenance' tab and click the 
button "Reindex Folder".

Also, on the Akonadi Console you can restart the 'Akonadi Indexing Agent'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not show all imap folders

[Wols Lists]

On 22/01/2024 07:04, Alexander Puchmayr wrote:

I checked folder subscriptions in kmail, but I do not see the missing folders
there either. Also akonadi-console does not show them. I also tried
curl imaps:///
Showing all of the missing folders, so I think its an akonadi/kmail problem
and not an imap problem.

Any ideas?


I occasionally get this problem in Thunderbird, and one of the options 
in folder properties is "delete the index". If you've got that option 
for the parent folder, do it, and then kmail should rebuild from scratch 
and find the folders.


Cheers,
Wol

[gentoo-user] Kmail does not show all imap folders

[Alexander Puchmayr]

Hi there,

I'm using dovecot as imap server, some sieve scripts sorting incoming mails 
into a folder structure and kmail on multiple different machines as client. The 
folder structure on the server looks fine, I can access the folders via command 
line and I don't see anything obviously wrong.

Some of those target folders are not shown on all machines, they are simply 
ignored; Unfortunately these folders contain important mails which I need to 
react to (which is bad if I do not see them on my main machine, only in some 
test VM). 

I checked folder subscriptions in kmail, but I do not see the missing folders 
there either. Also akonadi-console does not show them. I also tried 
curl imaps:///
Showing all of the missing folders, so I think its an akonadi/kmail problem 
and not an imap problem. 

Any ideas? 

BR
Alex 

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kde-apps/akonadi-23.08.3-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Elijah Mark Anderson]

On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 5:28:49 PM CDT Mick wrote:
> Yes, exactly.  When 'View Source' disappeared from the context menu of the
> preview pane, I went fishing for it in the main menu.  There I discovered
> 'v' being the keybinding for 'View Source' and have been using it since. 
> However, I often have to move the mouse onto the main window or preview
> pane, so right- clicking to view the source of a message always felt like a
> more natural approach.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Mick

Agreed. Somebody who's on the KMail Dev mailing list want to forward this 
thread to them? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Mick]

On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 23:26:45 BST Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 00:11:11 CEST schrieb Elijah Mark Anderson:
> > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:28:40 PM CDT Marc Joliet wrote:
> > > I'm not sure what you mean.  I use KMail 5.7.3, too, and still have a
> > > "view
> > > source" menu entry under "Message", or whatever it's called in English
> > > locales (in German it's "Nachricht" -> "Nachrichtencode ansehen").
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > 
> > I think they're talking about the popup/context menu when you right-click
> > in the message preview pane.
> 
> Ah!  Yeah, now I remember, it did indeed disappear at some point :( .

Yes, exactly.  When 'View Source' disappeared from the context menu of the 
preview pane, I went fishing for it in the main menu.  There I discovered 'v' 
being the keybinding for 'View Source' and have been using it since.  However, 
I often have to move the mouse onto the main window or preview pane, so right-
clicking to view the source of a message always felt like a more natural 
approach.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Marc Joliet]

Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 00:11:11 CEST schrieb Elijah Mark Anderson:
> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:28:40 PM CDT Marc Joliet wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean.  I use KMail 5.7.3, too, and still have a
> > "view
> > source" menu entry under "Message", or whatever it's called in English
> > locales (in German it's "Nachricht" -> "Nachrichtencode ansehen").
> > 
> > HTH
> 
> I think they're talking about the popup/context menu when you right-click in
> the message preview pane.

Ah!  Yeah, now I remember, it did indeed disappear at some point :( .

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don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Mick]

On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 22:52:51 BST Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> > or select to view HTML content on a per
> > message basis
> 
> FWIW, for just this particular task you can add the "Toggle HTML Display
> Mode" toolbar button (in German it's "HTML Anzeigemodus Umschalten").  I
> also found a similar feature at
> https://userbase.kde.org/Kmail/Using_Kmail_General (search for "HTML").

Yes, this will deal with toggling the display of the HTML part of a message, 
but it will not offer many other options available through the 'Message 
Structure' pane, like 'Save As', 'Open With', 'Copy', etc.  

I used HTML as an example of a message component.  Personally, I use the 'Show 
Message Structure' to inspect/troubleshoot the envelop structure of multipart 
messages, save parts separately, etc.  I also use 'View Source' to check 
message headers.  So, when these two functions suddenly disappeared I started 
looking for them.  I wasn't aware that they had gone due to conscious 
decisions taken by the devs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Elijah Mark Anderson]

On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:28:40 PM CDT Marc Joliet wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean.  I use KMail 5.7.3, too, and still have a "view
> source" menu entry under "Message", or whatever it's called in English
> locales (in German it's "Nachricht" -> "Nachrichtencode ansehen").
> 
> HTH

I think they're talking about the popup/context menu when you right-click in 
the message preview pane. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Marc Joliet]

Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> or select to view HTML content on a per
> message basis

FWIW, for just this particular task you can add the "Toggle HTML Display Mode" 
toolbar button (in German it's "HTML Anzeigemodus Umschalten").  I also found 
a similar feature at https://userbase.kde.org/Kmail/Using_Kmail_General 
(search for "HTML").

HTH
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--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Marc Joliet]

Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 20:53:40 CEST schrieb Manuel Mommertz:
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 19:49:16 CEST schrieb Mick:
[...]
> > Annoyingly, the 'View Source' submenu option was also removed ... arrrgh!
> > However, pressing 'v' on a preview pane acts as a short cut for this
> > function.
> 
> Yeah, 'View Source' is the other menu-entry I miss since some versions.
[...]

I'm not sure what you mean.  I use KMail 5.7.3, too, and still have a "view 
source" menu entry under "Message", or whatever it's called in English locales 
(in German it's "Nachricht" -> "Nachrichtencode ansehen").

HTH
-- 
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--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Elijah Mark Anderson]

Any idea why the Kmail team are making such seemingly bad decisions lately?

On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:53:40 PM CDT Manuel Mommertz wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 19:49:16 CEST schrieb Mick:
> > On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 16:45:45 BST Manuel Mommertz wrote:
> > > Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > 
> > > > After some recent KDE updates I noticed that Kmail-5.7.3 no longer
> > > > shows
> > > > the message components at the bottom of the preview pane.  As a result
> > > > I
> > > > can't see the components of multipart messages or select to view HTML
> > > > content on a per message basis, should I want/need to do so.
> > > > 
> > > > Have you noticed the same?  Any idea how I could restore this feature?
> > > 
> > > you need to press ctrl+alt+D now to activate it. No menu entry anymore,
> > > see: see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387931
> > 
> > Thank you Manuel.  Unfortunately ctrl+alt+D on an Enlightenment desktop
> > does something entirely different (minimises all windows).
> > 
> > I used Settings/Configure Toolbars and added "Show Message Structure" to
> > the main menu for now.
> > 
> > On a Plasma desktop it works as advertised, so other users on Plasma who
> > may need this feature could use it accordingly.
> > 
> > Annoyingly, the 'View Source' submenu option was also removed ... arrrgh!
> > However, pressing 'v' on a preview pane acts as a short cut for this
> > function.
> 
> Yeah, 'View Source' is the other menu-entry I miss since some versions.
> 
> > Thanks again for your help with this.
> 
> No problem

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Manuel Mommertz]

Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 19:49:16 CEST schrieb Mick:
> On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 16:45:45 BST Manuel Mommertz wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > After some recent KDE updates I noticed that Kmail-5.7.3 no longer shows
> > > the message components at the bottom of the preview pane.  As a result I
> > > can't see the components of multipart messages or select to view HTML
> > > content on a per message basis, should I want/need to do so.
> > > 
> > > Have you noticed the same?  Any idea how I could restore this feature?
> > 
> > you need to press ctrl+alt+D now to activate it. No menu entry anymore,
> > see: see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387931
> 
> Thank you Manuel.  Unfortunately ctrl+alt+D on an Enlightenment desktop does
> something entirely different (minimises all windows).
> 
> I used Settings/Configure Toolbars and added "Show Message Structure" to the
> main menu for now.
> 
> On a Plasma desktop it works as advertised, so other users on Plasma who may
> need this feature could use it accordingly.
> 
> Annoyingly, the 'View Source' submenu option was also removed ... arrrgh!
> However, pressing 'v' on a preview pane acts as a short cut for this
> function.

Yeah, 'View Source' is the other menu-entry I miss since some versions. 

> Thanks again for your help with this.

No problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Mick]

On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 16:45:45 BST Manuel Mommertz wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > After some recent KDE updates I noticed that Kmail-5.7.3 no longer shows
> > the message components at the bottom of the preview pane.  As a result I
> > can't see the components of multipart messages or select to view HTML
> > content on a per message basis, should I want/need to do so.
> > 
> > Have you noticed the same?  Any idea how I could restore this feature?
> 
> you need to press ctrl+alt+D now to activate it. No menu entry anymore, see:
> see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387931

Thank you Manuel.  Unfortunately ctrl+alt+D on an Enlightenment desktop does 
something entirely different (minimises all windows).

I used Settings/Configure Toolbars and added "Show Message Structure" to the 
main menu for now.

On a Plasma desktop it works as advertised, so other users on Plasma who may 
need this feature could use it accordingly.

Annoyingly, the 'View Source' submenu option was also removed ... arrrgh!  
However, pressing 'v' on a preview pane acts as a short cut for this function.

Thanks again for your help with this.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Manuel Mommertz]

Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:31 CEST schrieb Mick:
> Hi All,
> 
> After some recent KDE updates I noticed that Kmail-5.7.3 no longer shows the
> message components at the bottom of the preview pane.  As a result I can't
> see the components of multipart messages or select to view HTML content on
> a per message basis, should I want/need to do so.
> 
> Have you noticed the same?  Any idea how I could restore this feature?

you need to press ctrl+alt+D now to activate it. No menu entry anymore, see:
see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387931

[gentoo-user] Kmail message components

[Mick]

Hi All,

After some recent KDE updates I noticed that Kmail-5.7.3 no longer shows the 
message components at the bottom of the preview pane.  As a result I can't see 
the components of multipart messages or select to view HTML content on a per 
message basis, should I want/need to do so.

Have you noticed the same?  Any idea how I could restore this feature?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 2 January 2017 16:30:34 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote:

> I wonder if the kmail developers actually test with locally stored email?

A year or two ago I was following a KDE bug and one of the developers made 
some remark about wishing POP would go away. I thought he was joking at the 
time, but now I'm wondering...

> I only use IMAP and am not encountering these issues.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 2 January 2017 13:09:25 GMT Michael Mol wrote:

> https://userbase.kde.org/KMail/
> FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Local_Folders_is_added_over_and_over
> 
> Came across that while looking for something else. HTH.

Thanks Michael. It's not quite the same problem, but it looks interesting 
anyway.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Mick]

On Monday 02 Jan 2017 16:22:34 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 2 January 2017 11:42:44 GMT Mick wrote:
> > On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Hello lists,
> > > 
> > > (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant
> > > in
> > > both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)
> > > 
> > > Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail
> > > working. It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips
> > > backwards to start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you
> > > see.)
> > > 
> > > The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds
> > > simple enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different
> > > partition, but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:
> > > 
> > > 1.Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. 
> > > Save the
> > > arrangement for use next time.
> > > 2.Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
> > > 3.Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into
> > > position under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
> > > 4.Restore all the filters.
> > > 5.Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer 
> > > IMAP).
> > > 6.KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and 
> > > proceeds
> > > to
> > > fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those
> > > duplicates prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all
> > > out, painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails
> > > for uniqueness).
> > > 7.Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. 
> > > Same
> > > result. 8.Give up and start again.
> > > 
> > > Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the
> > > sent-mail folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think
> > > this coincided with me using a different archive file from the previous
> > > day.
> > > 
> > > In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the
> > > archive
> > > and save it as a simple directory structure under
> > > "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the
> > > archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and
> > > everything else.
> > > 
> > > I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it
> > > may well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step
> > > going wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each
> > > time, because the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with
> > > no indication of what is supposed to be in progress. This may be
> > > connected with the segmentation faults I still see sometimes on
> > > shutdown; it's hard to be sure.
> > > 
> > > Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on
> > > eggshells.
> > 
> > Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then run:
> > 
> > akonadictl stop
> > akonadictl start
> > akonadictl fsck
> > akonadictl vacuum
> > 
> > On each of the above commands you should wait for a few
> > seconds/minutes/hours, depending on the size of the database and the
> > amount being downloaded/indexed from the mail server.  Once the complete
> > collection of messages, address book, calendar, etc. have been downloaded
> > AND indexed your problems of being stuck at 0% ought to go away, or
> > hopefully reduced significantly.
> 
> I've just run that set of four commands, and guess what? I now have my first
> batch of duplicate messages. I also have a feeling that some new messages
> from this list have disappeared.
> 
> I don't trust akonadictl at the moment.
> 
> > PS. Still on stable Kmail I occasionally get a 0% indication, but with
> > patience it goes away.  This typically happens for two reasons.  First the
> > connection to gmail or other mail servers is problematic.  This
> > eventually gives an indication of connection being lost and sometimes the
> > mailbox goes offline (I am using IMAP).  Second reason is that there are
> > no new messages in the Inbox or any other folder and therefore the
> > filters are not being run and contents not being indexed.  When a new
> > message arrives the 0% progresses to 100% and completes almost
> > immediately.
> 
> Thanks, but that doesn't explain why stopping KMail and immediately
> restarting it clears the zero progress on an unknown task. Every time, too.

I occasionally get the odd duplicate message appearing in the sent mail 
folder.  However, this only lasts for a little while.  In due course, re-
indexing gets rid of duplicates.  I have not used Kmail2 with POP3 since its 
very early days and back then it would not work at all for me (losing 
messages, creating duplicates and triplicates and quadruplicates and ...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Michael Mol]

On Monday, January 2, 2017 4:22:34 PM EST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 2 January 2017 11:42:44 GMT Mick wrote:
> > On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Hello lists,
> > > 
> > > (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant
> > > in
> > > both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)
> > > 
> > > Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail
> > > working. It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips
> > > backwards to start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you
> > > see.)
> > > 
> > > The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds
> > > simple enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different
> > > partition, but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:
> > > 
> > > 1.Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. 
> > > Save the
> > > arrangement for use next time.
> > > 2.Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
> > > 3.Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into
> > > position under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
> > > 4.Restore all the filters.
> > > 5.Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer 
> > > IMAP).
> > > 6.KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and 
> > > proceeds
> > > to
> > > fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those
> > > duplicates prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all
> > > out, painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails
> > > for uniqueness).
> > > 7.Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. 
> > > Same
> > > result. 8.Give up and start again.
> > > 
> > > Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the
> > > sent-mail folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think
> > > this coincided with me using a different archive file from the previous
> > > day.
> > > 
> > > In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the
> > > archive
> > > and save it as a simple directory structure under
> > > "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the
> > > archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and
> > > everything else.
> > > 
> > > I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it
> > > may well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step
> > > going wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each
> > > time, because the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with
> > > no indication of what is supposed to be in progress. This may be
> > > connected with the segmentation faults I still see sometimes on
> > > shutdown; it's hard to be sure.
> > > 
> > > Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on
> > > eggshells.
> > 
> > Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then run:
> > 
> > akonadictl stop
> > akonadictl start
> > akonadictl fsck
> > akonadictl vacuum
> > 
> > On each of the above commands you should wait for a few
> > seconds/minutes/hours, depending on the size of the database and the
> > amount being downloaded/indexed from the mail server.  Once the complete
> > collection of messages, address book, calendar, etc. have been downloaded
> > AND indexed your problems of being stuck at 0% ought to go away, or
> > hopefully reduced significantly.
> 
> I've just run that set of four commands, and guess what? I now have my first
> batch of duplicate messages. I also have a feeling that some new messages
> from this list have disappeared.

https://userbase.kde.org/KMail/
FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Local_Folders_is_added_over_and_over

Came across that while looking for something else. HTH.

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[J. Roeleveld]

On January 2, 2017 5:22:34 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey  
wrote:
>On Monday, 2 January 2017 11:42:44 GMT Mick wrote:
>> On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> > Hello lists,
>> > 
>> > (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being
>relevant
>> > in
>> > both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)
>> > 
>> > Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail
>> > working. It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent
>slips
>> > backwards to start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as
>you
>> > see.)
>> > 
>> > The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds
>> > simple enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a
>different
>> > partition, but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:
>> > 
>> > 1. Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set.
>Save the
>> > arrangement for use next time.
>> > 2. Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
>> > 3. Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into
>> > position under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
>> > 4. Restore all the filters.
>> > 5. Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer
>IMAP).
>> > 6. KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and
>proceeds
>> > to
>> > fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those
>> > duplicates prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them
>all
>> > out, painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand
>e-mails
>> > for uniqueness).
>> > 7. Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go.
>Same
>> > result. 8. Give up and start again.
>> > 
>> > Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the
>> > sent-mail folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think
>> > this coincided with me using a different archive file from the
>previous
>> > day.
>> > 
>> > In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the
>> > archive
>> > and save it as a simple directory structure under
>> > "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from
>the
>> > archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail,
>and
>> > everything else.
>> > 
>> > I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle,
>but it
>> > may well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next
>step
>> > going wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each
>> > time, because the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0%
>with
>> > no indication of what is supposed to be in progress. This may be
>> > connected with the segmentation faults I still see sometimes on
>> > shutdown; it's hard to be sure.
>> > 
>> > Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm
>walking on
>> > eggshells.
>> 
>> Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then
>run:
>> 
>> akonadictl stop
>> akonadictl start
>> akonadictl fsck
>> akonadictl vacuum
>> 
>> On each of the above commands you should wait for a few
>> seconds/minutes/hours, depending on the size of the database and the
>> amount being downloaded/indexed from the mail server.  Once the
>complete
>> collection of messages, address book, calendar, etc. have been
>downloaded
>> AND indexed your problems of being stuck at 0% ought to go away, or
>> hopefully reduced significantly.
>
>I've just run that set of four commands, and guess what? I now have my
>first 
>batch of duplicate messages. I also have a feeling that some new
>messages 
>from this list have disappeared.
>
>I don't trust akonadictl at the moment.
>
>> PS. Still on stable Kmail I occasionally get a 0% indication, but
>with
>> patience it goes away.  This typically happens for two reasons. 
>First the
>> connection to gmail or other mail servers is problematic.  This
>> eventually gives an indication of connection being lost and sometimes
>the
>> mailbox goes offline (I am using IMAP).  Second reason is that there
>are
>> no new messages in the Inbox or any other folder and therefore the
>> filters are not being run and contents not being indexed.  When a new
>> message arrives the 0% progresses to 100% and completes almost
>> immediately.
>
>Thanks, but that doesn't explain why stopping KMail and immediately 
>restarting it clears the zero progress on an unknown task. Every time,
>too.

I wonder if the kmail developers actually test with locally stored email?

I only use IMAP and am not encountering these issues.

--
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 2 January 2017 11:42:44 GMT Mick wrote:
> On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello lists,
> > 
> > (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant
> > in
> > both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)
> > 
> > Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail
> > working. It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips
> > backwards to start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you
> > see.)
> > 
> > The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds
> > simple enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different
> > partition, but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:
> > 
> > 1.  Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. Save the
> > arrangement for use next time.
> > 2.  Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
> > 3.  Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into
> > position under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
> > 4.  Restore all the filters.
> > 5.  Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer IMAP).
> > 6.  KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and proceeds
> > to
> > fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those
> > duplicates prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all
> > out, painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails
> > for uniqueness).
> > 7.  Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. Same
> > result. 8.  Give up and start again.
> > 
> > Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the
> > sent-mail folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think
> > this coincided with me using a different archive file from the previous
> > day.
> > 
> > In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the
> > archive
> > and save it as a simple directory structure under
> > "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the
> > archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and
> > everything else.
> > 
> > I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it
> > may well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step
> > going wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each
> > time, because the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with
> > no indication of what is supposed to be in progress. This may be
> > connected with the segmentation faults I still see sometimes on
> > shutdown; it's hard to be sure.
> > 
> > Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on
> > eggshells.
> 
> Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then run:
> 
> akonadictl stop
> akonadictl start
> akonadictl fsck
> akonadictl vacuum
> 
> On each of the above commands you should wait for a few
> seconds/minutes/hours, depending on the size of the database and the
> amount being downloaded/indexed from the mail server.  Once the complete
> collection of messages, address book, calendar, etc. have been downloaded
> AND indexed your problems of being stuck at 0% ought to go away, or
> hopefully reduced significantly.

I've just run that set of four commands, and guess what? I now have my first 
batch of duplicate messages. I also have a feeling that some new messages 
from this list have disappeared.

I don't trust akonadictl at the moment.

> PS. Still on stable Kmail I occasionally get a 0% indication, but with
> patience it goes away.  This typically happens for two reasons.  First the
> connection to gmail or other mail servers is problematic.  This
> eventually gives an indication of connection being lost and sometimes the
> mailbox goes offline (I am using IMAP).  Second reason is that there are
> no new messages in the Inbox or any other folder and therefore the
> filters are not being run and contents not being indexed.  When a new
> message arrives the 0% progresses to 100% and completes almost
> immediately.

Thanks, but that doesn't explain why stopping KMail and immediately 
restarting it clears the zero progress on an unknown task. Every time, too.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Mick]

On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello lists,
> 
> (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant in
> both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)
> 
> Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail working.
> It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips backwards to
> start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you see.)
> 
> The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds simple
> enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different partition,
> but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:
> 
> 1.Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. Save the
> arrangement for use next time.
> 2.Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
> 3.Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into 
> position
> under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
> 4.Restore all the filters.
> 5.Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer IMAP).
> 6.KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and proceeds to
> fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those duplicates
> prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all out,
> painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails for
> uniqueness).
> 7.Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. Same 
> result.
> 8.Give up and start again.
> 
> Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the sent-mail
> folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think this coincided
> with me using a different archive file from the previous day.
> 
> In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the archive
> and save it as a simple directory structure under
> "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the
> archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and
> everything else.
> 
> I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it may
> well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step going
> wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each time, because
> the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with no indication of
> what is supposed to be in progress. This may be connected with the
> segmentation faults I still see sometimes on shutdown; it's hard to be sure.
> 
> Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on
> eggshells.

Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then run:

akonadictl stop
akonadictl start
akonadictl fsck
akonadictl vacuum

On each of the above commands you should wait for a few seconds/minutes/hours, 
depending on the size of the database and the amount being downloaded/indexed 
from the mail server.  Once the complete collection of messages, address book, 
calendar, etc. have been downloaded AND indexed your problems of being stuck 
at 0% ought to go away, or hopefully reduced significantly.

PS. Still on stable Kmail I occasionally get a 0% indication, but with 
patience it goes away.  This typically happens for two reasons.  First the 
connection to gmail or other mail servers is problematic.  This eventually 
gives an indication of connection being lost and sometimes the mailbox goes 
offline (I am using IMAP).  Second reason is that there are no new messages in 
the Inbox or any other folder and therefore the filters are not being run and 
contents not being indexed.  When a new message arrives the 0% progresses to 
100% and completes almost immediately.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] KMail and KDE-plasma: a tale of woe

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello lists,

(I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant in 
both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.)

Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail working. 
It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips backwards to 
start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you see.)

The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds simple 
enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different partition, 
but it wasn't. The routine would go like this:

1.  Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. Save the 
arrangement for use next time.
2.  Import the latest archive to a temporary folder.
3.  Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into 
position 
under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder.
4.  Restore all the filters.
5.  Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer IMAP).
6.  KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and proceeds to 
fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those duplicates 
prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all out, 
painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails for 
uniqueness).
7.  Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. Same 
result.
8.  Give up and start again.

Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the sent-mail 
folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think this coincided 
with me using a different archive file from the previous day.

In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the archive 
and save it as a simple directory structure under
"./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the 
archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and 
everything else.

I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it may 
well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step going 
wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each time, because 
the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with no indication of 
what is supposed to be in progress. This may be connected with the 
segmentation faults I still see sometimes on shutdown; it's hard to be sure.

Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on 
eggshells.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 06 July 2015 19:16:59 Mick wrote:

 Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem by
 clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing.  I recall
 opening the akonadi console from the tool tray and this offered me a GUI,
 which listed the various KDEPIM resources.  I right clicked on the
 corrupted folder and selected to clear the cache; in my case it would not
 list any messages and was hanging when trying to sync with the mail server.
  This fixed it.
 
 Are you looking at the same place?

I finally found it. The Browser tab shows a list of collections in the top 
left pane. Right-clicking on an e-mail folder there offers Clear akonadi 
cache. I did that, waited a few seconds for disk activity to stop and then 
took the Synchronise option. That took a long time - I don't know how long as 
I had to go out and leave it to itself.

Repeating the procedure for each of my dodgy folders appears to have tidied up 
the worst of the mess, though I still get duplicates. At least now they aren't 
phantoms.

Thanks for your perseverance, Mick.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 08 July 2015 22:03:16 Mick wrote:

 I would thing that this is a relatively straight forward transaction to
 troubleshoot, but devs may not be using POP3 on Kmail2, or if the glacial
 progress of KDEPIM is anything to go by, then I seriously suspect they are
 NOT really using ... Kmail2!  :-p

You may have something there. I forget the detail now but one of their devs 
remarked that it was a pity that POP3 still existed. I thought he was joking 
at the time, but maybe he wasn't.

I have only POP3 accounts: my ISP doesn't offer IMAP, and I don't propose to 
change ISPs on that account.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Mick]

On Wednesday 08 Jul 2015 08:56:46 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Monday 06 July 2015 19:16:59 Mick wrote:
  Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem
  by clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing.  I
  recall opening the akonadi console from the tool tray and this offered
  me a GUI, which listed the various KDEPIM resources.  I right clicked on
  the corrupted folder and selected to clear the cache; in my case it
  would not list any messages and was hanging when trying to sync with the
  mail server.
  
   This fixed it.
  
  Are you looking at the same place?
 
 I finally found it. The Browser tab shows a list of collections in the
 top left pane. Right-clicking on an e-mail folder there offers Clear
 akonadi cache. I did that, waited a few seconds for disk activity to stop
 and then took the Synchronise option. That took a long time - I don't know
 how long as I had to go out and leave it to itself.
 
 Repeating the procedure for each of my dodgy folders appears to have tidied
 up the worst of the mess, though I still get duplicates. At least now they
 aren't phantoms.
 
 Thanks for your perseverance, Mick.

You are welcome, but I am saddened to read that the problem (duplicate emails 
when using POP3) is *still* not resolved.  I don't know what is causing it, 
but suspect that it is something to do with the UIDL command causing some hash 
malfunction on the Kmail2 POP3 client. I am guessing (wildly and with no 
evidence) that akonadi's (re)indexing is not managing the message ID reliably, 
potentially barfing on the message hash, recreating a duplicate.  Either way, 
applications like this give MSOutlook with its reliably self-corrupting .pst 
files a good name.

I would thing that this is a relatively straight forward transaction to 
troubleshoot, but devs may not be using POP3 on Kmail2, or if the glacial 
progress of KDEPIM is anything to go by, then I seriously suspect they are NOT 
really using ... Kmail2!  :-p

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Alan McKinnon]

On 08/07/2015 23:57, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 July 2015 22:03:16 Mick wrote:
 
 I would thing that this is a relatively straight forward transaction to
 troubleshoot, but devs may not be using POP3 on Kmail2, or if the glacial
 progress of KDEPIM is anything to go by, then I seriously suspect they are
 NOT really using ... Kmail2!  :-p
 
 You may have something there. I forget the detail now but one of their devs 
 remarked that it was a pity that POP3 still existed. I thought he was joking 
 at the time, but maybe he wasn't.
 
 I have only POP3 accounts: my ISP doesn't offer IMAP, and I don't propose to 
 change ISPs on that account.
 


kmail-1 was awesome.
kmail-2 is a complete joke.

The best recommendation I can give you is to salvage what you can from
your mailboxes and switch to something that works. Thunderbird, claws,
mutt all work fine and one of those surely fits your needs?

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 09 July 2015 01:04:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 kmail-1 was awesome.
 kmail-2 is a complete joke.
 
 The best recommendation I can give you is to salvage what you can from
 your mailboxes and switch to something that works. Thunderbird, claws,
 mutt all work fine and one of those surely fits your needs?

I did survey the available clients but didn't find anything to compare with 
what KMail ought to be.

Seriously though, after following Mick's advice, I have what seems to be a 
stable e-mail system now, even if it does throw up the occasional duplicate. I 
can live with that if it doesn't regress further.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Mick]

On 06-07-2015 ,09:33:58, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list is 
 silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even been 
 confirmed, never mind acted on.

I had duplicated emails in my first attempt (c. 2011) to move to Kmail2.
This was on a POP3 account.  When I deleted the duplicates, more would be
created.  I did not have the full semantic KDEPIM enchilada enabled and
I was running sqlite3, which the KDE devs advised against (unable to
manage multithreaded operations that mysql/postgresql could do with
ease).  At the time I blamed sqlite as the cause of this, but I may have
been wrong if you are also observing the same.

More recently (c. 2013/4) I tried again to setup Kmail2, but using IMAP4
and mysql.  Small IMAP4 accounts with a couple of thousand messages work
fine.  Large IMAP4 accounts with 120k messages or more, work like a pig,
unless you have FTTP and some octa-core beast to run your desktop on.


 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695
 
 It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or just 
 broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised bug 
 348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs are 
 overwhelmed.

HEALTH WARNING: This can potentially delete ALL your messages, with the
same ease that it creates duplicates.  So, ensure that you have some
back up system, to safeguard loss of your email data.

If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
Inbox folder.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

[gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list is 
silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even been 
confirmed, never mind acted on.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695

It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or just 
broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised bug 
348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs are 
overwhelmed.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Mick]

On Monday 06 Jul 2015 16:44:39 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Monday 06 July 2015 11:01:08 Mick wrote:
  If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
  cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
  akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
  Inbox folder.
 
 The only reference I can find to the cache in akonadi console v 0.99 is a
 Cache only retrieval tick box. I've set off a Synchronise All and I'll
 see if it does anything useful. Doesn't look like it.

Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem by 
clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing.  I recall opening 
the akonadi console from the tool tray and this offered me a GUI, which listed 
the various KDEPIM resources.  I right clicked on the corrupted folder and 
selected to clear the cache; in my case it would not list any messages and was 
hanging when trying to sync with the mail server.  This fixed it.

Are you looking at the same place?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Paul Colquhoun]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 09:33:58 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list 
is
 silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even 
been
 confirmed, never mind acted on.
 
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695
 
 It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or 
just
 broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised 
bug
 348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs 
are
 overwhelmed.


Yes, I get duplicate message as well. I've been getting them for all 
versions of Kmail-2, as far as I remember.

Currently using version 4.14.8 and the frequency of duplicates has 
dropped, but they still happen.

Also, Kmail-2 doesn't seem to move message files correctly in maildir 
folders. Quite a few get left in the 'new' directory instead of being moved 
to 'cur'. I havn't checked to see it these correleate with duplicated 
messages at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 06 July 2015 11:01:08 Mick wrote:

 If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
 cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
 akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
 Inbox folder.

The only reference I can find to the cache in akonadi console v 0.99 is a 
Cache only retrieval tick box. I've set off a Synchronise All and I'll see if 
it does anything useful. Doesn't look like it.

I'm beginning to suspect a problem with mime types, but I'm largely ignorant 
in that area so I'd prefer it to be somewhere else :-)

-- 
Rgds
Peter

[gentoo-user] Kmail-1.13.7 subfolders are no longer recognised

[Mick]

Since I updated KDE to 4.9.3 my Kmail 1.13.7 no longer recognises the Sent  
Draft subfolders I have set up, to save sent/draft messages from different 
email accounts (both POP  IMAP).  All sent messages regardless of the account 
I send them from, end up in the defaul Kmail top level sent-mail folder.

Changing the settings in 'Settings/Configure Kmail/Identities/Advanced/Sent-
mail folder/' or '/Drafts folder' is not saved no matter what I do.

Looking in kmailrc the paths seem correct, but are not recognised by the 
application when sending messages.

Has anyone come across this?
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail-1.13.7 subfolders are no longer recognised

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 01 December 2012 14:22:09 Mick wrote:
 Since I updated KDE to 4.9.3 my Kmail 1.13.7 no longer recognises the
 Sent  Draft subfolders I have set up, to save sent/draft messages
 from different email accounts (both POP  IMAP).  All sent messages
 regardless of the account I send them from, end up in the defaul
 Kmail top level sent-mail folder.
 
 Changing the settings in 'Settings/Configure
 Kmail/Identities/Advanced/Sent- mail folder/' or '/Drafts folder' is
 not saved no matter what I do.
 
 Looking in kmailrc the paths seem correct, but are not recognised by
 the application when sending messages.
 
 Has anyone come across this?

Not exactly, but I do find that my filter to send messages from this list 
to their own folder sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Then I read 
each one in the in-box and hit ctrlj and the filter does work.

It seems that filtering is broken in the current version, which is 4.9.3 
here. How do you have 1.13.7 still around?

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail-1.13.7 subfolders are no longer recognised

[Mick]

On Saturday 01 Dec 2012 16:31:15 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 01 December 2012 14:22:09 Mick wrote:
  Since I updated KDE to 4.9.3 my Kmail 1.13.7 no longer recognises the
  Sent  Draft subfolders I have set up, to save sent/draft messages
  from different email accounts (both POP  IMAP).  All sent messages
  regardless of the account I send them from, end up in the defaul
  Kmail top level sent-mail folder.
  
  Changing the settings in 'Settings/Configure
  Kmail/Identities/Advanced/Sent- mail folder/' or '/Drafts folder' is
  not saved no matter what I do.
  
  Looking in kmailrc the paths seem correct, but are not recognised by
  the application when sending messages.
  
  Has anyone come across this?
 
 Not exactly, but I do find that my filter to send messages from this list
 to their own folder sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Then I read
 each one in the in-box and hit ctrlj and the filter does work.
 
 It seems that filtering is broken in the current version, which is 4.9.3
 here. How do you have 1.13.7 still around?

Because kmail-1.13.7 is still the last stable version in portage and when I 
tried kmail-2 on another box I could never get it to work properly with 
sqlite3.  Kmail-2 really screwed up my messages (creating duplicates and being 
unable to delete them, not showing IMAP4 folders, or their content, etc.) so I 
steered away from trying to upgrade for good, or at least until kmail-1 is no 
longer supported.

I did try to learn how to use mutt, but I found that it was getting in the way 
big time when I had to use s/mime and gnupg for signing/encrypting messages - 
trying to remember what the serial number of a certificate is for each 
recipient is a bit too much even for a console application.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Jens Reinemuth]

Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
 I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
 spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
 upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
 4.4.11.1.
 
 With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs
 have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

Just stay with 4.4.x! Akonadi/Nepomuk/... is imho not ready for daily use 
right now! I got 4.8 running in Kubuntu and its a real pain, even with the 8GB 
Ram in the company-laptop!

In private i will never switch! If someday you can't use the older Versions 
with actual KDE i will use Thunderbird...

Jens

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Daniel D Jones]

On Saturday, February 11, 2012 03:18:53 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 07:47:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
   I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October. 
   After spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to
   get the upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to
   version 4.4.11.1.
   
   With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
   bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
  
  I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but
  it does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them
  back one after another.
 
 Unfortunately, it does not work here on my test x86 stable box.  I have
 removed and added each resource more than a dozen times.  POP3 seems to
 broadly work (but it creates duplicate messages which once deleted are
 recreated) and IMAP4 does not show any messages in the Inbox.  The
 kaddressbook does not show the addresses.
 
 I've tried deleting akonadi databases, adding the resources or importing
 them and starting again many, many times to come to the conclusion that in
 my set up it just won't work.  I hope that code progress eventually
 restores functionality which I consider absolutely basic - i.e. to be able
 to read my messages and use my addresses.
 
 Having wasted far too much time for no positive result I'm now in hope that
 trinity desktop will come up with a solution that I was sorry to see left
 behind - KDE 3.5.

Your experience sounds similar to mine.  I tried everything I could to get it 
working with limited success to say the least.  I'm using POP3 to a server 
sitting right here on the same local network, no IMAP.  Still had the problem 
with duplicate emails, unable to import my fairly large archives of old email, 
etc.

I don't have any desire to go back to KDE 3.5 - I like the 4.x changes to KDE.

I'm assuming then the upgrade to 4.8 didn't fix KDE and I'll just leave it 
pinned for now.

-- 
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the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine 
attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, 
please. Cash and in small bills. - Robert A Heinlein, _Time Enough for Love_

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Mick]

On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 07:47:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
  I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
  spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
  upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
  4.4.11.1.
  
  With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
  bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
 
 I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but it
 does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them back one
 after another.

Unfortunately, it does not work here on my test x86 stable box.  I have 
removed and added each resource more than a dozen times.  POP3 seems to 
broadly work (but it creates duplicate messages which once deleted are 
recreated) and IMAP4 does not show any messages in the Inbox.  The 
kaddressbook does not show the addresses.

I've tried deleting akonadi databases, adding the resources or importing them  
and starting again many, many times to come to the conclusion that in my set 
up it just won't work.  I hope that code progress eventually restores 
functionality which I consider absolutely basic - i.e. to be able to read my 
messages and use my addresses.

Having wasted far too much time for no positive result I'm now in hope that 
trinity desktop will come up with a solution that I was sorry to see left 
behind - KDE 3.5.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Mick]

On Friday 10 Feb 2012 03:23:11 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 06:33:12PM -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote:
  I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
  spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
  upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
  4.4.11.1.
  
  With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
  bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
 
 I tried it as soon as the 4.8 upgrade was done. After I added an IMAP
 resource, it didn't show up in the folder pane, although its folders were
 listed in the dialog where one can select folder subscriptions (right click
 in folder pane→Manage local subscriptions).
 
 I have no interest right now to bother with it, I became fairly happy with
 mutt. ^^

Does anyone know if this fork is offering a KDEPIM that actually works?

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
 I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
 spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
 upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
 4.4.11.1.
 
 With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs
 have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but it 
does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them back one 
after another.
-- 
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[gentoo-user] KMail

[Daniel D Jones]

I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After 
spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the 
upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version 4.4.11.1.  

With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs 
have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

-- 
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making in all two. - Ambrose Bierce

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 06:33:12PM -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote:
 I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After 
 spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the 
 upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version 
 4.4.11.1.  
 
 With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs 
 have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

I tried it as soon as the 4.8 upgrade was done. After I added an IMAP
resource, it didn't show up in the folder pane, although its folders were
listed in the dialog where one can select folder subscriptions (right click in
folder pane→Manage local subscriptions).

I have no interest right now to bother with it, I became fairly happy with
mutt. ^^
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[gentoo-user] KMail skips messages in some folders when clicking Next (or pressing +)

[Dan Johansson]

I upgraded to KMail 4.7.3 some days ago and now i have a small but annoying 
problem. I have configured KMail to When trying to find unread messages: Loop 
in All Folders and it mostly works as expected. BUT some folders/messages get 
skipped when I click Next Unread Message or press +. I have not set any 
special parameters for these skipped folders. All my messages and folders 
reside on a local IMAP-server (courier).

Any suggestion why some folders are skipped and where to look for a solution.

Regards,
-- 
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[gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders

[Kristian Poul Herkild]

Hi there.

Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with separate
mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash) for each account
instead of putting all mails in the same folder hierachy (as does
Evolution in
Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical setting in
KMail?

So far the solutions I've seen of separating mail accounts in KMail have
been identical to those of separating mail accounts in Evolution (e.g.
blend
all the mails together in one big box and then manually create filters to
more
or less succesfully move them to subfolders within the same folder
hierachy).

Filter-based solutions are not wanted, since they do not work when people
are
sending the same mail to several of my accounts (one folder will receive
multiple copies, and other folders will not receive the copies relevant to
them).

Kind regards,
Kristian Poul Herkild

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders

[Alan McKinnon]

On Mon 01 August 2011 23:11:39 Kristian Poul Herkild did opine thusly:
 Hi there.
 
 Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with
 separate mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash)
 for each account instead of putting all mails in the same folder
 hierachy (as does Evolution in
 Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical setting
 in KMail?
 
 So far the solutions I've seen of separating mail accounts in
 KMail have been identical to those of separating mail accounts in
 Evolution (e.g. blend
 all the mails together in one big box and then manually create
 filters to more
 or less succesfully move them to subfolders within the same folder
 hierachy).
 
 Filter-based solutions are not wanted, since they do not work when
 people are
 sending the same mail to several of my accounts (one folder will
 receive multiple copies, and other folders will not receive the
 copies relevant to them).

You'll probably get better answers over at the kdepim-user list:

https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 01 August 2011 22:11:39 Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:

 Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with separate
 mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash) for each account
 instead of putting all mails in the same folder hierachy (as does
 Evolution in Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical
 setting in KMail?

If the accounts are POP3 you're offered a choice of destination folder. If 
they're IMAP they live in a separate hierarchy. Settings  Configure Kmail  
Accounts  Add/Modify etc.

-- 
Rgds
Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

[gentoo-user] kmail not working after KDE 4.6 upgrade

[Tami King]

After compiling KDE 4.6, kmail isn't accessing my email accounts.  I get
errors
like this:

Error while checking account gmail for new mail:
The process for the imaps://imap.gmail.com protocol died unexpectedly.

For all of my IMAP and POP accounts.  My .xsessions files contains:

kioslave: ### CRASH ## protocol = pop3s pid = 25338 signal = 11
kioslave: ### CRASH ## protocol = imaps pid = 25342 signal = 11

I recompiled all of the packages in kdepim-meta and anything I could find
that seemed to reference kio, but that made no difference.

I can shut off SSL on one of the POP accounts and it fetched email as
expected.  That really isn't an long term option, though, and several of
the accounts only have SSL access.  I hope that this is just an issue with
something that needs to be recompiled, but I am not sure that to recompile
at this point.  revdep-rebuild doesn't turn up anything.  Any ideas?

-- 
Tami King

Re: [gentoo-user] kmail not working after KDE 4.6 upgrade

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Monday 07 February 2011 09:34:26 Tami King wrote:
 After compiling KDE 4.6, kmail isn't accessing my email accounts.  I get
 errors
 like this:
 
 Error while checking account gmail for new mail:
 The process for the imaps://imap.gmail.com protocol died unexpectedly.
 
 For all of my IMAP and POP accounts.  My .xsessions files contains:
 
 kioslave: ### CRASH ## protocol = pop3s pid = 25338 signal = 11
 kioslave: ### CRASH ## protocol = imaps pid = 25342 signal = 11
 
 I recompiled all of the packages in kdepim-meta and anything I could find
 that seemed to reference kio, but that made no difference.
 
 I can shut off SSL on one of the POP accounts and it fetched email as
 expected.  That really isn't an long term option, though, and several of
 the accounts only have SSL access.  I hope that this is just an issue with
 something that needs to be recompiled, but I am not sure that to recompile
 at this point.  revdep-rebuild doesn't turn up anything.  Any ideas?

Which Kmail version are you using?
Eg. did you install the KDE4.6 one? Or the Kde4.4 one?

I am using the KDE4.6 one (Kmail version = 2.0.89 in Help-About) and GMail 
accounts do work.
However, these are accessed through Akonadi and for that, akonadi needs to be 
running.

With the KDE4.4-kmail, I had similar errors on occasion

If the kioslaves are failing, you could try rebuilding those:
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
And after that, rebuild kmail

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 23:42 on Saturday 09 October 2010, Daniel D 
Jones did opine thusly:

 On Saturday, October 09, 2010 14:38:16 Yohan Pereira wrote:
  thats odd im typing this from kmail.
  
  whavt version?
 
 1.13.5
 
 I've been using Kmail for years and I don't believe there was an upgrade
 just before this started happening.  I suspect that it's something outside
 Kmail itself, some service it's trying to access, but I don't know what it
 would be.
 
 Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send
 button.  It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending.

I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things 
happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I have 
to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to forget to 
run the script that sets them up)

Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track down 
is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored in kwallet! 
Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely passwords in 
~/.kde4/share/config



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Mick]

On Sunday 10 October 2010 08:06:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 23:42 on Saturday 09 October 2010, Daniel D
 
 Jones did opine thusly:
  On Saturday, October 09, 2010 14:38:16 Yohan Pereira wrote:
   thats odd im typing this from kmail.
   
   whavt version?
  
  1.13.5
  
  I've been using Kmail for years and I don't believe there was an upgrade
  just before this started happening.  I suspect that it's something
  outside Kmail itself, some service it's trying to access, but I don't
  know what it would be.
  
  Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send
  button.  It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending.
 
 I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things
 happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I
 have to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to
 forget to run the script that sets them up)
 
 Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track
 down is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored in
 kwallet! Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely
 passwords in ~/.kde4/share/config

No answers to your questions, but I can confirm that I occasionally get the 
same symptoms, i.e. during composing a new message or some times when I click 
on a new message to read it.  It takes up to 10-15 seconds before it becomes 
responsive again.  If I close the message composing window while waiting for 
the darn thing to unfreeze, the whole application crashes after the waiting is 
over.  Starting it up does not restore the composer and any text I had written 
is lost.

Unlike you I do not use mysql, but sqlite.  So I think that this problem is 
not related to the database.

Things that might cause it, although I cannot confirm any of these as 
definite, are kmail trying to connect to a mail server which for network or 
other reasons is unresponsive; trying to refresh CRL or gpg from pgp or smime 
key servers; compressing some of its own maildir folders.

I'm currently running stable:

$ kmail -v
Qt: 4.6.2
KDE Development Platform: 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
KMail: 1.13.5
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 09 October 2010 22:36:42 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 09 October 2010 19:22:57 Daniel D Jones wrote:
 
  Any help on tracking down the cause is greatly appreciated.
 
 That's interesting. Here it's the other way round: on first logging-in to 
 the desktop, with kmail saved as an application from the previous 
 session, kmail takes for ever to get through its startup sequence, which 
 includes fetching new e-mails via POP3.

Since the upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 last week this problem might have been 
fixed, though it's early days yet.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[桂川军]

At 2010-10-10 18:35:24，Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:

On Saturday 09 October 2010 22:36:42 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 09 October 2010 19:22:57 Daniel D Jones wrote:
 
  Any help on tracking down the cause is greatly appreciated.
 
 That's interesting. Here it's the other way round: on first logging-in to 
 the desktop, with kmail saved as an application from the previous 
 session, kmail takes for ever to get through its startup sequence, which 
 includes fetching new e-mails via POP3.

Since the upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 last week this problem might have been 
fixed, though it's early days yet.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 16:10 on Sunday 10 October 2010, Daniel D 
Jones did opine thusly:

 On Sunday, October 10, 2010 03:06:08 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Another clue is that it does a very similar thing when I press the Send
   button.  It freezes for about ten to fifteen seconds before sending.
  
  I agree it's likely caused by some network resource, I get similar things
  happening to me (to use imap on exchange and it's addressbook from home I
  have to run ssh tunnels through to the exchange machines. It's *easy* to
  forget to run the script that sets them up)
  
  Look for things like imap stores not available and the hard one to track
  down is accessing addressbooks using LDAP. The passwords are not stored
  in kwallet! Check your various KResources configs and grep for likely
  passwords in ~/.kde4/share/config
 
 I'm still looking and investigating.  No luck yet.
 
 It doesn't appear to be a network problem for a couple of reasons.  I run
 my own mail server and it's sitting right here on my local subnet. 
 There's no problem communicating with it on either port 25 or 110.  (I
 don't use imap, so that isn't involved.)  Kmail itself doesn't exhibit any
 symptoms when I'm reading mail.  It's only when I have Composer open.
 
 I'm not using LDAP or any sort of external addressbook, and I'm not sure
 why Composer would be accessing the addressbook while I'm in the middle of
 writing an email.  I can see it happening on either opening or closing
 Composer, but not mid sentence.  (Which, of course, doesn't mean it isn't
 happening.  I'm just not sure why it would.)
 
 The only external resource I can think of that Composer would be accessing
 as I'm writing is the spellchecker and turning off automatic (ie inline)
 spellchecking doesn't mitigate the issue.
 
 Is anyone using or tried to use an external editor with Kmail recently?  If
 not, would someone be willing to take a moment and attempt to do so and see
 if it works correctly for you?

This is starting to look like strace -p is your good friend.

You'll get heaps of output most likely but at least there's a good chance we 
can pin down what resource it's trying to access.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Yohan Pereira]

thats odd im typing this from kmail.

whavt version?

-- 
- Yohan Pereira.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail editor freezes

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 09 October 2010 19:22:57 Daniel D Jones wrote:

 Any help on tracking down the cause is greatly appreciated.

That's interesting. Here it's the other way round: on first logging-in to 
the desktop, with kmail saved as an application from the previous 
session, kmail takes for ever to get through its startup sequence, which 
includes fetching new e-mails via POP3. It's usually a few minutes 
before I can do anything with it. After that it's as responsive as any 
other program, and the composer is too. I've had the same problem with 
all recent versions as far as I remember; the current version here is 
kmail 1.13.5 in KDE 4.5.2.

(Not wishing to hijack your thread...) I doubt it's your problem, but I 
wonder if mine is the dreaded IPv6 lookup problem raising its ugly head 
again.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail storage of TLS certificate

[Mick]

On Saturday 14 August 2010 16:09:13 you wrote:
 On Saturday 14 August 2010 10:09:00 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 August 2010, Mick wrote:
   Any idea how I can reset this certificate as far as Kmail is concerned?
   When has it stored my clicking to save the acceptance of the
   certificate and how can I reset this?
  
  you can always dive into .kde/ and remove the offending lines from the
  config files...
 
 Thanks, that's what I'm trying to find out - which file and which lines. 
 I've had a poke around but couldn't find anything relevant.

OK, found it!  The solution was to remove 
.kde4/share/config/ksslcertificatemanager
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail storage of TLS certificate

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Tuesday 10 August 2010, Mick wrote:

 
 Any idea how I can reset this certificate as far as Kmail is concerned? 
 When has it stored my clicking to save the acceptance of the certificate
 and how can I reset this?

you can always dive into .kde/ and remove the offending lines from the config 
files...

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail storage of TLS certificate

[Mick]

On Saturday 14 August 2010 10:09:00 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 August 2010, Mick wrote:
  Any idea how I can reset this certificate as far as Kmail is concerned?
  When has it stored my clicking to save the acceptance of the certificate
  and how can I reset this?
 
 you can always dive into .kde/ and remove the offending lines from the
 config files...

Thanks, that's what I'm trying to find out - which file and which lines.  I've 
had a poke around but couldn't find anything relevant.
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[gentoo-user] Kmail storage of TLS certificate

[Mick]

Hi All,

I've set up an IMAP account on Kmail and the first time I logged in it flagged 
up that the SSL certificate offered by the server was not valid.  I accepted 
it and ticked to save it and not ask me again.

This seems to me has caused Kmail to never again check mail on that account 
(it tries to, but never connects).  My assumption (judging from other accounts 
(on the same mail server) is that the certificate session expires, but it does 
not start a new session because of some malfunction with the certificate and 
the fact that I asked it to save it as accepted.  Other accounts, bring up a 
notification, I have to accept the certificate afresh and then they connect 
normally.

Any idea how I can reset this certificate as far as Kmail is concerned?  When 
has it stored my clicking to save the acceptance of the certificate and how 
can I reset this? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail marking messages Read by itself

[Walter Dnes]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:55:29AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote

 I now have no idea which of the 4126 e-mails has just arrived,
 and I don't intend to search for it!

  Can you sort/filter email by date received?  At least that would allow
you look at only recent emails.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail marking messages Read by itself

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 25 March 2010 04:30:11 Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:55:29AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
 
  I now have no idea which of the 4126 e-mails has just arrived,
  and I don't intend to search for it!
 
   Can you sort/filter email by date received?  At least that would
 allow you look at only recent emails.

I could, but that would ruin the threading. It would help me track that 
hidden e-mail down, but it wouldn't help in the general case.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.

[gentoo-user] Kmail marking messages Read by itself

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

I've been noticing recently that the messages I read in Kmail are fewer 
than those it's fetched from my ISP's POP3 server, according to the 
status line at the bottom of the window. I couldn't quite put my finger 
on any specific problem - until now, when I had just finished reading the 
new e-mails in this list and clicked on Check Mail before going to bed. 
I saw the unread-message counter go to 1 in this same list's folder, 
then back to blank without any action by me. I now have no idea which of 
the 4126 e-mails has just arrived, and I don't intend to search for it!

Has anyone else here seen this problem? Bugzilla has nothing. This is 
kmail 1.13.1 with kde-4.4.1 on an ~amd64 box.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 20 January 2010 07:48:33 Jim Cunning wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 January 2010 12:50:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:22:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Those are quick-link thingys that highlight clickable text in the mail.
   IIRC the intent is so you can type Ctrl-D and the browser will take you
   to the link labelled D
  
   I used to have it, then I did something in System Settings or kmail's
   config and it went away. Go through both looking for options that
   mention Ctrl. I forget what it was, but do remember it was distinctly
   not obvious at the time.
 
  I had the same problem turning it off on KDE3. It's a system setting,
  Konqueror does the same. ISTR it's in the Accessibility section of
  systemsettings.
 
 OK, thanks for the guidance.
 
 Alan, I was at first confused by your response, and as a test tried, for
 example, to enter Ctrl-letter for whatever lettered link I wanted to
  follow. Didn't work--when I pressed Ctrl the first time to display the
  letter boxes, then pressed Ctrl-H (when an H box was displayed), the
  boxes disappeared as soon as I depressed Ctrl, and with that still
  pressed, pressing H did nothing.  Butif I press and release Ctrl to
  display the letter boxes, and then press one of the letters (upper/lower
  case didn't matter), the nearby text link was activated.  In kmail I was
  able to select mailto:, http:, and https: links to open a compose window
  in kmail or a new web page my firefox browser.
 
 Firefox does not exhibit this behavior, but konqueror does in the same way
  as kmail.  I couldn't find any other kxxx utilities with the same
  behavior, though.
 
 At least now I know how to use this feature, but unfortunately, I can find
 nothing in the KDE menu System Settings under the General or Advanced tab
 that appears to enable or even modify this behavior.  Any other suggested
 places to look?
 

Sorry, I have no more suggestions. I think Neil is on the right track with 
Accessibility. I have that completely disabled here so it doesn't show up in 
my settings.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:48:33 -0800, Jim Cunning wrote:

  I had the same problem turning it off on KDE3. It's a system setting,
  Konqueror does the same. ISTR it's in the Accessibility section of
  systemsettings.

 Firefox does not exhibit this behavior,

Of course not, it's not a KDE app.

  but konqueror does in the same
 way as kmail.  I couldn't find any other kxxx utilities with the same
 behavior, though.
 
 At least now I know how to use this feature, but unfortunately, I can
 find nothing in the KDE menu System Settings under the General or
 Advanced tab that appears to enable or even modify this behavior.  Any
 other suggested places to look?

For Konqueror, you turn it of in the Web Browsing section of the
settings, the last item. I don't use KMail but I expect this will affect
KMail too, or KMail will have a similar setting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Frank Steinmetzger]

Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 schrieb Neil Bothwick:

 For Konqueror, you turn it of in the Web Browsing section of the
 settings, the last item. I don't use KMail but I expect this will affect
 KMail too, or KMail will have a similar setting.

I guess that’s because - similar to Outl**k using the IE engine - KMail seems 
to use the KHTML engine to display messages. That’s why it also has this 
feature.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly [SOLVED]

[Jim Cunning]

On Wednesday 20 January 2010 02:57:30 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
  For Konqueror, you turn it of in the Web Browsing section of the
  settings, the last item. I don't use KMail but I expect this will affect
  KMail too, or KMail will have a similar setting.
 
 I guess that’s because - similar to Outl**k using the IE engine - KMail
  seems to use the KHTML engine to display messages. That’s why it also has
  this feature.
 
The control is indeed in konqueror settings. Kmail does honor it, but only 
after a restart of kontact or kmail.  Kmail does not appear to have its own 
setting for Enable/disable Access Key activation with Ctrl key

Thanks to all who provided answers and guidance on this prob^H^H^H^Hfeature.
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[gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Jim Cunning]

I have noticed for a long time, and continuing with KDE 4.4, that 
kmail/kontact shows a bunch of small popup window boxes, each containing a 
single letter, whenever it's displaying a message and the control key is 
pressed and released.  Another depression/release of the control key removes 
the boxes.

I first noticed this with KDE 3.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3, and it has continued on 
gentoo with KDE 3.5 and now 4.4. An example of what I'm describing can be seen 
at http://cunning.ods.org/kmail-boxes.jpg

I couldn't get any useful hits on Google with the keywords I came up with.  
Has anyone seen this and/or know how to eliminate it?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 19 January 2010 22:12:09 Jim Cunning wrote:
 I have noticed for a long time, and continuing with KDE 4.4, that
 kmail/kontact shows a bunch of small popup window boxes, each containing a
 single letter, whenever it's displaying a message and the control key is
 pressed and released.  Another depression/release of the control key
  removes the boxes.
 
 I first noticed this with KDE 3.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3, and it has continued on
 gentoo with KDE 3.5 and now 4.4. An example of what I'm describing can be
  seen at http://cunning.ods.org/kmail-boxes.jpg
 
 I couldn't get any useful hits on Google with the keywords I came up with.
 Has anyone seen this and/or know how to eliminate it?

Those are quick-link thingys that highlight clickable text in the mail. IIRC 
the intent is so you can type Ctrl-D and the browser will take you to the link 
labelled D

I used to have it, then I did something in System Settings or kmail's config 
and it went away. Go through both looking for options that mention Ctrl. I 
forget what it was, but do remember it was distinctly not obvious at the time.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:22:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Those are quick-link thingys that highlight clickable text in the mail.
 IIRC the intent is so you can type Ctrl-D and the browser will take you
 to the link labelled D
 
 I used to have it, then I did something in System Settings or kmail's
 config and it went away. Go through both looking for options that
 mention Ctrl. I forget what it was, but do remember it was distinctly
 not obvious at the time.

I had the same problem turning it off on KDE3. It's a system setting,
Konqueror does the same. ISTR it's in the Accessibility section of
systemsettings.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail/kontact display anomaly

[Jim Cunning]

On Tuesday 19 January 2010 12:50:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:22:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Those are quick-link thingys that highlight clickable text in the mail.
  IIRC the intent is so you can type Ctrl-D and the browser will take you
  to the link labelled D
 
  I used to have it, then I did something in System Settings or kmail's
  config and it went away. Go through both looking for options that
  mention Ctrl. I forget what it was, but do remember it was distinctly
  not obvious at the time.
 
 I had the same problem turning it off on KDE3. It's a system setting,
 Konqueror does the same. ISTR it's in the Accessibility section of
 systemsettings.
 
OK, thanks for the guidance.

Alan, I was at first confused by your response, and as a test tried, for 
example, to enter Ctrl-letter for whatever lettered link I wanted to follow. 
Didn't work--when I pressed Ctrl the first time to display the letter boxes, 
then pressed Ctrl-H (when an H box was displayed), the boxes disappeared as 
soon as I depressed Ctrl, and with that still pressed, pressing H did 
nothing.  Butif I press and release Ctrl to display the letter boxes, and 
then press one of the letters (upper/lower case didn't matter), the nearby 
text link was activated.  In kmail I was able to select mailto:, http:, and 
https: links to open a compose window in kmail or a new web page my firefox 
browser.

Firefox does not exhibit this behavior, but konqueror does in the same way as 
kmail.  I couldn't find any other kxxx utilities with the same behavior, 
though.

At least now I know how to use this feature, but unfortunately, I can find 
nothing in the KDE menu System Settings under the General or Advanced tab 
that appears to enable or even modify this behavior.  Any other suggested 
places to look?
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[gentoo-user] Kmail / uw-imap problems

[Elric Wolfsbruder]

Hello all,

I am currently having some interesting problems with kmail since the flagging of
kde-4.3.1 as stable

I can no longer access my imap mail boxes.

On the client side there is kmail 1.12.1 in KDE 4.3.1-r1 built with (handbook
kontact semantic-desktop).

On the erver side there is uw-imap 2007e built with (ssl).

kmail Will not authtenticate to the imap server.

Error:
Authorization failed, Unable to authenticate via CRAM-MD5.
The server arioch replied:
Invalid authentication credentials authentication not supported


The funny thing here is that under kde-3.5.10 kmail 1.9.10 will authenticate
without any problems.

Any idea's, suggestions or thoughts?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail / uw-imap problems

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 15 Oktober 2009, Elric Wolfsbruder wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I am currently having some interesting problems with kmail since the
  flagging of kde-4.3.1 as stable
 
 I can no longer access my imap mail boxes.
 
 On the client side there is kmail 1.12.1 in KDE 4.3.1-r1 built with
  (handbook kontact semantic-desktop).
 
 On the erver side there is uw-imap 2007e built with (ssl).
 
 kmail Will not authtenticate to the imap server.
 
 Error:
 Authorization failed, Unable to authenticate via CRAM-MD5.
 The server arioch replied:
 Invalid authentication credentials authentication not supported
 
 
 The funny thing here is that under kde-3.5.10 kmail 1.9.10 will
  authenticate without any problems.
 
 Any idea's, suggestions or thoughts?
 

yes, look into your configuration. Also make sure you built kdepimlibs and 
kdelibs with the right flags

[gentoo-user] Kmail composer does not respect langauage selection

[Alan McKinnon]

Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is a real bug or just a stupid config error. I suspect 
the latter.

kmail-4.2.0 displays mail using the correct language dictionary - English 
(South Africa). However, the composer insists on using Afrikaans. If I 
select Settings - SpellChecker and set the default drop-down to English all 
is well, but it reverts with the next new mail. 

I can find no language selection in kmail - Settings - Composer, my 
country|region is set to South Africa in systemsettings, the only Languages 
that systemsettings offers as choices are British and US English.

I have two Afrikaans dictionaries installed for occasional use:
app-dicts/aspell-af
app-dicts/myspell-af

My LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US en_ZA
aspell is built with USE=-linguas_af

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail 4.1

[Rev. Ferris]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

It worked!
Thanks (I send that email from kmail!)
Luigi


 On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  I installed same days ago the kde-meta 4.1 (one question: when does
  it come in official portage tree?). I have almost no problem, only
  kmail doesn't work properly.
  I have an ISP that requires login authentication to use its smpt
  server. When I try to send a email, a pop-up compares with the
  warning that kio_smtp is compiled without login support. So, kmail
  3.5.9 works right, and I don't find where kio_smtp is. Someone can
  help me?

 equery belongs /usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so
 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so in *... ]
 kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.1.0 (/usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so)

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[gentoo-user] Kmail 4.1

[sailorferris1830]

Hi,
I installed same days ago the kde-meta 4.1 (one question: when does it come in 
official portage tree?).
I have almost no problem, only kmail doesn't work properly.
I have an ISP that requires login authentication to use its smpt server. When I 
try to send a email, a pop-up compares with the warning that kio_smtp is 
compiled without login support. So, kmail 3.5.9 works right, and I don't find 
where kio_smtp is.
Someone can help me?
Thank a lot,
Luigi 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail 4.1

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I installed same days ago the kde-meta 4.1 (one question: when does it come
 in official portage tree?). I have almost no problem, only kmail doesn't
 work properly.
 I have an ISP that requires login authentication to use its smpt server.
 When I try to send a email, a pop-up compares with the warning that
 kio_smtp is compiled without login support. So, kmail 3.5.9 works right,
 and I don't find where kio_smtp is. Someone can help me?

equery belongs /usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so in *... ]
kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.1.0 (/usr/kde/4.1/lib64/kde4/kio_smtp.so)

locate is your friend.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

[Mick]

On Monday 11 February 2008, Patrick Holthaus wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the reply!

  I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to
  have such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new
  key that has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

 I changed the default server to the one you use. It seems to work now.
 gpg --refresh-keys had an error with the MIT server and it works with
 yours.

 Nevertheless I have to set the trust to ultimately of each imported key in
 KGPG, right?

 Patrick

NO!  Only if you trust the guy who owns the key.  That trust can only be 
gained if you have verified (in person) that he is the owner of the 
registered email address and pgp key!  Otherwise, the whole principle of Web 
of Trust falls apart.  That's what the key exchange meetings are all about.  
Now, you can't meet everyone in person who has a pgp key, right?  But if you 
have verified that Bob is who he says he is and his key matches up to his 
email address, and Bob has gone through the same process with Fred, then by 
implication you may chose to also trust Fred and any others that Bob has 
verified.  For obvious reasons you may chose to mark Fred's key as trusted to 
a lesser degree than Bob's.

Have a look at these links for more info on this subject:
http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

[Mick]

On Monday 11 February 2008, Patrick Holthaus wrote:
 Hey there!

 I wonder why Kmail does not import any gpg keys. For example on this list,

 many people sign their messages. But Kmail tells me something like this:
  Message was signed on xxx with unknown key xxx.
  The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
  Status: No public key to verify the signature

 OpenPGP is selected in Crypto Backends with default keyserver
 http://pgp.mit.edu
 Automatically import keys and certificates is also selected.

I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to have 
such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new key that 
has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

KGpg has a 'Refresh keys from server' selection in the menu that will do 
exactly that when you're on line, or bring back an error if a connection 
cannot be established (e.g. because you are off-line, the server does not 
accept connections, or the particular keys are not published on that server).  
Ditto if you run:

$ gpg --refresh-keys

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[gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

[Patrick Holthaus]

Hey there!

I wonder why Kmail does not import any gpg keys. For example on this list, 
many people sign their messages. But Kmail tells me something like this:

 Message was signed on xxx with unknown key xxx.
 The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
 Status: No public key to verify the signature

OpenPGP is selected in Crypto Backends with default keyserver 
http://pgp.mit.edu
Automatically import keys and certificates is also selected.

gpg-agent is running, with the following config (gpg.conf):

 grep -v '^#' ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf | uniq

 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve
 
 use-agent

 default-key  40A7BD65

 utf8-strings
 verbose
 utf8-strings

 encrypt-to  0x40A7BD65

and gpg-agent.conf:

 grep -v '^#' ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf | uniq
 pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt
 no-grab
 default-cache-ttl 1800
 
 debug-level basic
 log-file socket:///home/pholthau/.gnupg/log-socket
 allow-mark-trusted

I am running Kmail 1.9.7 (KDE 3.5.8) and gnupg 2.0.7.

Anyone knows whats going wrong?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail does not import gpg keys automatically?

[Patrick Holthaus]

Hi and thanks for the reply!

 I use hkp://subkeys.pgp.net as my default keyserver and do not seem to have
 such a problem (unless I open a new message offline, which has a new key
 that has not been imported yet from the keyserver).

I changed the default server to the one you use. It seems to work now.
gpg --refresh-keys had an error with the MIT server and it works with yours.

Nevertheless I have to set the trust to ultimately of each imported key in 
KGPG, right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail cutting too late (was: Can't login with a normal user)

[Benno Schulenberg]

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 schrieb Jan-Hendrik Zab:
  O_o Dunno why it should be different in KMail?

 Hmm, maybe it's confused because of the two separators. It cuts
 off after the second one,

KMail by design cuts at the last separator instead of the first.  
Attached is a patch that changes this.

-- 

Benno
--- kdepim-3.5.1/kmail/kmmessage.cpp.old	2006-01-19 17:55:47.0 +0100
+++ kdepim-3.5.1/kmail/kmmessage.cpp	2006-03-03 16:26:48.0 +0100
@@ -628,9 +628,9 @@
 
 static QString stripSignature( const QString  msg, bool clearSigned ) {
   if ( clearSigned )
-return msg.left( msg.findRev( QRegExp( \n--\\s?\n ) ) );
+return msg.left( msg.find( QRegExp( \n--\\s?\n ) ) );
   else
-return msg.left( msg.findRev( \n-- \n ) );
+return msg.left( msg.find( \n-- \n ) );
 }
 
 QString KMMessage::smartQuote( const QString  msg, int maxLineLength )

Re: [gentoo-user] kmail compilation problem

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 10 June 2007, rebus_rdk wrote:
 If someone has any idea on either how to remove kmail completely

How is your kde installed - the full packages or the split ebuilds?

If you emerged kde or kdepim, then you are going to get kmail as it's a 
dependency. You can unmerge kdepim if you don't use any of features of 
that package. If you emerged kde, then you have a problem, and will 
most likely end up recompiling all of it without kdepim all over again.

If you were sensible and followed the advice of the gentoo kde team and 
installed split ebuilds, then 'equery depends kmail' will tell you 
which package(s) pulled it in - most likely kdepim-meta. Then unmerge 
it

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[gentoo-user] kmail compilation problem

[rebus_rdk]

Hi everyone,

I have recently updated portage, did an emerge -avuD system and world.
Everything was doing great until it hit kmail. First time i tried to compile
it it hogged the processor to max
and wasted all the RAM + swap space. You can imagine what that did to rest
of the system response time.
Well i managed to kill the compilation with Ctrl-C.

I tried to compile it again with the same result, after that i wanted kmail
out of my system for good so did
emerge -aC kmail.

I was all happy about it been gone, so i did an update again, left it
compile through the night, but didn't notice that kmail
wanted to be compiled again. i left it running over the night and it didn't
compile. Just stood there eating all the resources.

ATM i cant post the gcc output when kmail compilation breaks as i am not on
work until tomorrow  and our shitty router
seems to have problem with port forwarding again... :(

If someone has any idea on either how to remove kmail completely or make it
compile right id appreciate it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail compilation problem

[Markus Schönhaber]

rebus_rdk wrote:

 I have recently updated portage, did an emerge -avuD system and world.
 Everything was doing great until it hit kmail. First time i tried to compile
 it it hogged the processor to max
 and wasted all the RAM + swap space. You can imagine what that did to rest
 of the system response time.
 Well i managed to kill the compilation with Ctrl-C.

Just a WAG: if you have the kdeenablefinal USE flag set, try emerging
kmail without it.

Regards
  mks
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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail compilation problem

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 10. Juni 2007, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
 rebus_rdk wrote:
  I have recently updated portage, did an emerge -avuD system and world.
  Everything was doing great until it hit kmail. First time i tried to
  compile it it hogged the processor to max
  and wasted all the RAM + swap space. You can imagine what that did to
  rest of the system response time.
  Well i managed to kill the compilation with Ctrl-C.

 Just a WAG: if you have the kdeenablefinal USE flag set, try emerging
 kmail without it.


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[gentoo-user] kmail + sieve

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

Until recently, using managing seive filters in kmail just worked.  
Unfortunately, now I get an error:

Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'sieve'.

whenever I try to manage my sieve rules.  Clearly, I must be missing some 
kio_slave, but I'm not sure exactly what package it is in.  Can anyone 
suggest a resolution?

Here's my kmail information:
[I] kde-base/kmail
 Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 (~)3.5.6-r1
 Installed versions:  3.5.6-r1(3.5)(12:13:58 PM 02/02/2007)(arts 
crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal xinerama)

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail + sieve

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] kmail + sieve':
 Until recently, using managing seive filters in kmail just worked.
 Unfortunately, now I get an error:

 Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
 klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'sieve'.

 whenever I try to manage my sieve rules.  Clearly, I must be missing
 some kio_slave, but I'm not sure exactly what package it is in.  Can
 anyone suggest a resolution?

To head off the usual suspects, here's some packages that I do have 
installed, that are probably responsible for sieve support in kmail:

[I] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
 Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 (~)3.5.6
 Installed versions:  3.5.6(3.5)(06:19:21 AM 02/18/2007)
(arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility 
ldap -openexr -samba xinerama)

[I] kde-base/kdepim-kioslaves
 Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 (~)3.5.6
 Installed versions:  3.5.6(3.5)(07:31:08 AM 03/12/2007)
(arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal -sasl xinerama)

[I] kde-base/libksieve
 Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.0 (~)3.5.6
 Installed versions:  3.5.6(3.5)(07:08:41 AM 01/26/2007)
(arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -kdeenablefinal xinerama)

At this point, I'm thinking I may have run into a bug.

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[gentoo-user] Kmail and incorrect character encoding

[Daniel D Jones]

My son recently started complaining that my replies to his emails caused his 
computer to prompt for the system disk and showed up blank.  (He uses Windows 
and Outlook, unfortunately.)  If I send him a new email, it works find.  If I 
reply to his, it causes problems.

I took a look at my replies to him and found this:

Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=iso-8859-6

I looked at his email, to which I was replying,  and found:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary==_NextPart_000__01C76655.354C13A0

There is no charset line in his email headers.
 
Anyone have a clue as to why Kmail might be setting the reply to charset: 
iso-8859-6, which is Arabic?  I can't find anything in his emails to cause 
this.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail and incorrect character encoding

[Markus Schönhaber]

Daniel D Jones wrote:

 My son recently started complaining that my replies to his emails caused
 his computer to prompt for the system disk and showed up blank.  (He uses
 Windows and Outlook, unfortunately.)  If I send him a new email, it works
 find.  If I reply to his, it causes problems.

 I took a look at my replies to him and found this:

 Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-6

 I looked at his email, to which I was replying,  and found:

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary==_NextPart_000__01C76655.354C13A0

 There is no charset line in his email headers.

In this case, Content-Type and charset declarations will be contained in the 
various parts of the message. I. e. search for boundary markers - the 
Content-Type declarations should be immediately below them.

 Anyone have a clue as to why Kmail might be setting the reply to charset:
 iso-8859-6, which is Arabic?  I can't find anything in his emails to cause
 this.

Go to
Settings / Configure Kmail... / Composer / Charset
There you should see a list of charsets KMail tries to use for encoding 
outgoing mail. Maybe this list contains iso-8869-6. 

Regards
  mks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail and incorrect character encoding

[Norberto Bensa]

Daniel D Jones wrote:
 I took a look at my replies to him and found this:

 Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-6

 I looked at his email, to which I was replying,  and found:

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary==_NextPart_000__01C76655.354C13A0

 There is no charset line in his email headers.

Look for charset in his parts. For example:


  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

  --=_NextPart_000_0003_01C74C69.D9B87510
  Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Also, check kmail (Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer/Charset)

Regards,
Norberto
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail and incorrect character encoding

[Mike Williams]

On Saturday 17 March 2007 15:13:59 Daniel D Jones wrote:

 Anyone have a clue as to why Kmail might be setting the reply to charset:
 iso-8859-6, which is Arabic?  I can't find anything in his emails to cause
 this.

It's the default Fallback Character encoding I believe, Appearance  Message 
Window.

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[gentoo-user] Kmail Crypto error

[Mick]

Two machines almost identically configured.  The second will not show
encrypted messages in a readable format after they have been sent.
The Kmail error is:

Encrypted message (decryption not possible)
Reason: Crypto plug-in openpgp could not decrypt the data.
Error: Bad passphrase
  Encrypted data not shown.
End of encrypted message

I have ticked encrypt to self, so I was expecting that the senders
passphrase would be asked and the message would become readable in the
Sent Folder.

Any ideas?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Crypto error

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

Hello,

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:38:08PM +, Mick wrote:
 I have ticked encrypt to self, so I was expecting that the senders
 passphrase would be asked and the message would become readable in the
 Sent Folder.

KMail is no longer (it is some time already) able to ask for the
passphrase itself, you need gpg-agent properly configured and running.
Other applications using pgp are moving in this direction too (there are
some safety issues with every application asking for the passphrase by
itself).

You probably can find more here
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml.

Have a nice day

-- 
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but you can make a fool of yourself anytime.

Michal vorner Vaner


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Crypto error

[Mick]

On Saturday 10 March 2007 13:11, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:

 KMail is no longer (it is some time already) able to ask for the
 passphrase itself, you need gpg-agent properly configured and running.
 Other applications using pgp are moving in this direction too (there are
 some safety issues with every application asking for the passphrase by
 itself).

 You probably can find more here
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml.

Of course, I forgot that I hadn't configured the machine in question to launch 
gpg-agent when kdm starts up (this box is running KDE, the other is not).  It 
works fine now.

Thank you!  :)
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[gentoo-user] kmail doesn't download mail

[Andrey]

Hi!
I migrate from monolitic kde to split ebuilds.
But now kmail doesn't works...
And now it's failed at starting pop3 and pop3s processes.
Any ideas?

[gentoo-user] Kmail Reply to errors

[Mick]

Hi All,

First I'd like to apologise for some stray messages that I have inadvertently 
sent to this ML.  This appears to be caused by Kmail automatically inserting 
the gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org address in the Reply To field, on messages 
that have nothing to do with this list.  I am not sure what Kmail reads to 
deduce the Reply To address, but it seems that it's not parsing the correct 
header field.

The headers and body below are from a message sent to me from a different 
mailing list.  When I hit Reply (R) Kmail always inserts the gentoo-user ML 
address instead of the correct one.  Is this a bug I should report? Can you 
explain to me why it happens, or how I could fix it? (If Kmail has been 
corrupted, what should I remerge?)

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Hi Mick,

If you're using a Remote Desktop client then the VNC server isn't involved
in the connection at all, and so your settings for it won't have any effect
whatsoever...

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick
 Sent: 02 November 2006 08:10
 To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
 Subject: Switch off the wallpaper
 
 Hi All,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Reply to errors

[brettholcomb]

What I did was create folders for each mail list and tell Kmail the folder 
contains a mail list.  When you do that you have an option to put the reply to 
address for the list in the setup.  After that I filter the mail list messages 
to the right folder and when I hit reply I get the right address.

 
 From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/11/02 Thu AM 09:00:53 EST
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Kmail Reply to errors
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Reply to errors

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 02 November 2006 16:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I did was create folders for each mail list and tell Kmail the
 folder contains a mail list.  When you do that you have an option to
 put the reply to address for the list in the setup.  After that I
 filter the mail list messages to the right folder and when I hit
 reply I get the right address.

For the last step, type 'l' to reply to a list, then kmail gets even 
smarter and always picks the list address for the headers, regardless 
of how the list admin has munged Reply-To:

alan
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