Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
On Friday 13 January 2006 22:54, Dale wrote: I'm going to bed. I'll let you know what blows up tomorrow. H. May start a emerge -ev world on the side. Maybe not. It's screwed up enough already. LOL Thanks Dale :-) I have started a fresh install. I have tried everything I can think of and it still won't work. Mozilla will not open at all. Even the binary version stopped working. I'm doing my install on another drive. I wonder if this one is going out. It sounds fine though. I'm not sure what is up. At least this install is going better than the last few tries. I found out that because my CD is old, I have to upgrade portage right away. It gives a error right off the bat. Wish me Luck. Thanks for all the help. This is really weird. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:49:10AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I have started a fresh install. I have tried everything I can think of and it still won't work. Mozilla will not open at all. Even the binary version stopped working. I'm doing my install on another drive. I wonder if this one is going out. It sounds fine though. I'm not sure what is up. At least this install is going better than the last few tries. I found out that because my CD is old, I have to upgrade portage right away. It gives a error right off the bat. Wish me Luck. Thanks for all the help. This is really weird. Since you are doing a fresh install anyway, try the following: (since I have no idea what is going on with your box, I am just throwing out random suggestions.) I re-read your emerge --info, and noticed that you've set the LDFLAGS variable to -Wl -z,now, comment that line out from /etc/make.conf before you re-install. There might be some weird condition happening that disabling lazy binding is causing start-up problems with mozilla (for example, your 30 minute long start-up). Also, I am pretty sure that with the -z switch, you don't need the -Wl part--gcc recognizes it as always a linker switch, so you only really need to set the LDFLAGS to -z now and it would be fine. The one thing is, it seems at this point that whatever goes wrong might be further up the toolchain then just mozilla. Usually if everything else works as expected, we should be able to expect mozilla-bin to run, even if the compiled version of mozilla doesn't. Now, the question is: did you try using mozilla-bin before your emerge -e world? If so, did it work? If that's the case, your rebuilding might have made matters worse. W -- Did you ever see an unhappy horse? Did you ever see a bird that had the blues? One reason why birds and horses are not unhappy is because they are not trying to impress other birds and horses. ~Dale Carnegie Sortir en Pantoufles: up 65 days, 11:38 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
On Monday 16 January 2006 13:30, Willie Wong wrote: Since you are doing a fresh install anyway, try the following: (since I have no idea what is going on with your box, I am just throwing out random suggestions.) I re-read your emerge --info, and noticed that you've set the LDFLAGS variable to -Wl -z,now, comment that line out from /etc/make.conf before you re-install. There might be some weird condition happening that disabling lazy binding is causing start-up problems with mozilla (for example, your 30 minute long start-up). Also, I am pretty sure that with the -z switch, you don't need the -Wl part--gcc recognizes it as always a linker switch, so you only really need to set the LDFLAGS to -z now and it would be fine. The one thing is, it seems at this point that whatever goes wrong might be further up the toolchain then just mozilla. Usually if everything else works as expected, we should be able to expect mozilla-bin to run, even if the compiled version of mozilla doesn't. Now, the question is: did you try using mozilla-bin before your emerge -e world? If so, did it work? If that's the case, your rebuilding might have made matters worse. W I commented that line out on the new install. I did change that line a good while back. I also removed gnome in the USE line and removed some packages that were related to gnome. I wonder if that had something to do with it. Since I don't reboot or even log out very much, it could be something I done a while back. My uptime was almost two weeks when this happened. I shut down when storms come through but that is about it. Since I had a old CD, I'm having to do the gcc upgrade and a lot of other things as well before I even really get started emerge KDE and mozilla. I'm glad you mentioned that LDFLAG before I got to far. I would hate to have two installs doing the same thing or even worse if the LDFLAGS is the problem. Thanks for the help. I just hope I can send this email. This is in Kmail by the way. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. I might try mozilla-thunderbird (or even mozilla-thunderbird-bin, or mozilla-bin). -Richard Well, as you may can tell from my sig being back, I am in Mozilla again. It is the binary thing though. Since this Mozilla works, what is wrong with my other one? This one is NOT like my old one. It . . . looks different. May do the emerge -e world now. See if that helps any. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. I might try mozilla-thunderbird (or even mozilla-thunderbird-bin, or mozilla-bin). -Richard Wo O. I can send email from Mozilla. I wasn't getting my hopes up last time. Thanks for the help folks. Still want to know what is wrong with my other one though. I need it back if you can help me get it back. I notice this binary version is in /opt instead of /usr/lib/. I guess it helps this one to work but I bet it won't help the old one any. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
Dale wrote: Well, I got to excited to fast. Mozilla comes up and works but it only let me send a few emails before it started with the original error, again. I may have to switch ISPs to fix this error. I didn't change anything here since before Christmas and it stopped working all at once. Now I'm back where it started. Any ideas on what this error is? An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Keep in mind I can send a email to myself but not to anyone outside of my ISPs network. I even renamed ~/.mozilla to mozilla.old and set up a new account, still not able to send emails. I can receive them though. If you notice my email address change to somethingatbellsouth.net, you'll know what happened. I have the same problem sometimes with Kmail too. I'm having a hard time sending this one. Thanks Dale :-( Well, I'm still testing this thing. I'm trying to count and see how many I can send before it fails. This will be #2. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
Well, I got to excited to fast. Mozilla comes up and works but it only let me send a few emails before it started with the original error, again. I may have to switch ISPs to fix this error. I didn't change anything here since before Christmas and it stopped working all at once. Now I'm back where it started. Any ideas on what this error is? An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Keep in mind I can send a email to myself but not to anyone outside of my ISPs network. I even renamed ~/.mozilla to mozilla.old and set up a new account, still not able to send emails. I can receive them though. If you notice my email address change to somethingatbellsouth.net, you'll know what happened. I have the same problem sometimes with Kmail too. I'm having a hard time sending this one. Thanks Dale :-( -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Dale wrote: Well, I'm still testing this thing. I'm trying to count and see how many I can send before it fails. This will be #2. Dale :-) Well, I sent a dozen or so to my Yahoo account and it seems to be working again. Could this be my ISP? Maybe they upgraded something over the holidays and only my Linux is seeing the problem?? I have had the exact same error a few times with Kmail too. Something fishy is going on here. I'm not sure what. Waiting for ideas. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
On Saturday 14 January 2006 04:55, a tiny voice compelled Dale to write: Something fishy is going on here. I'm not sure what. Waiting for ideas. From http://exceedtech.net REMINDER: If you have not already installed the new Exceed Dialer software, then you should follow the instructions here. Otherwise, you will experience service outages and other potential problems. It would seem that they have changed something there. Maybe contacting 2nd level tech support will help solve your problem. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Ernie Schroder wrote: From http://exceedtech.net REMINDER: If you have not already installed the new Exceed Dialer software, then you should follow the instructions here. Otherwise, you will experience service outages and other potential problems. It would seem that they have changed something there. Maybe contacting 2nd level tech support will help solve your problem. That has been there for years and it is a windoze thing. The reason they did that is because they changed all their numbers a good while back when our area code got changed. They don't have a Linux version of that software. They don't have a Mac version either. I have set it up on my brothers winders XP with the stuff that came with winders and it works fine. It's just that you have to go get a new list of numbers you can use, which I already have by the way. I have four numbers that are local. I have noticed that I can only connect to two of them. The other two says my login is bad, even though the only thing I changed is the number. Weird huh? I am starting to suspect one of two things here, my system is crashing dut to a bad hard drive or my ISP is going to start having some serious email trouble for everybody, real soon. I'm hoping to send this through Mozilla. Wish me luck. Thanks for the help. I'm on 177 of 641 on my emerge -e world. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
Hi Eric, on Thursday, 2006-01-12 at 14:35:52, you wrote: Yup, it's Kmail. What setup do you use for sending mail? Some ISPs have configs that block port 25 from being used for third party servers. Could be they put in a port blocker recently, and you're just one of the few people who are having problems with it. That would be my guess as well, I had this problem before. I think it was that I invented a domainname for the machine that only had a dialup connection anyway, and that was what it sent in the SMTP HELO. Somebody at the ISP's thought refusing aliens in the HELO phase was a good idea against spam but they didn't tell the support people about it so they insisted that nothing was changed. tcpdump helped. cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpZ2wezxVkUX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
On Friday 13 January 2006 04:54, Matthias Bethke wrote: Hi Eric, That would be my guess as well, I had this problem before. I think it was that I invented a domainname for the machine that only had a dialup connection anyway, and that was what it sent in the SMTP HELO. Somebody at the ISP's thought refusing aliens in the HELO phase was a good idea against spam but they didn't tell the support people about it so they insisted that nothing was changed. tcpdump helped. cheers! Matthias Well, I can't even get Mozilla to open any more. I even created a new user from scratch and it still will not start. I downloaded a new snapshot and am about to start a new install. I don't even know where to start to fix this one. It started out I couldn't get email, then Mozilla won't even start and I'm not sure what will break next. At least I have a second hard drive to do this install on. It shouldn't take to long to start over. This is the error I get when I try to start Mozilla from a Konsole: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ mozilla Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xdpyinfo: unable to open display :0. Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Unable to connect to X server Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (mozilla-bin:14954): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: mozilla-bin exited with non-zero status (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ This is so weird though. I'm in Kmail at the moment. Any ideas? I'm about to start a new install. Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Dale wrote: Well, I can't even get Mozilla to open any more. I even created a new user from scratch and it still will not start. I downloaded a new snapshot and am about to start a new install. I've never seen someone so eager to reinstall for so little. Honestly Mozilla won't start, so you're reinstalling the entire OS? How... Windows-like. I don't even know where to start to fix this one. First thing you might want to do is killall -9 mozilla-bin I have often found that if Moz (or Firefox) crashes, the process is still running, and therefore new instances won't open. Look in kdesysguard (or whatever the KDE System Monitor is called), or top, and you might see some 5 instances of mozilla-bin are already running (invisibly). Kill those, and Mozilla may well start. Whether your problem will be solved is another question, but we'll come to that, if not. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 05:58, Holly Bostick wrote: Kill those, and Mozilla may well start. Whether your problem will be solved is another question, but we'll come to that, if not. HTH, Holly That would make sense. I killed the processes that were running and still get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep mozilla root 15724 0.0 0.0 1572 484 pts/6S+ 06:11 0:00 grep mozilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # su dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ mozilla Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xdpyinfo: unable to open display :0. No running windows found Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (mozilla-bin:15746): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: mozilla-bin exited with non-zero status (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ Still no workey. My reinstall does sound windozy like but it also reminds me of Mandrake 9.1 too. I just don't know where to start is all. It seems I'm dieing a slow death. I'm wondering about a hard drive or something too. Maybe it is going out and messing up some files. I dunno. Any more ideas? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Dale wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 05:58, Holly Bostick wrote: Kill those, and Mozilla may well start. Whether your problem will be solved is another question, but we'll come to that, if not. HTH, Holly That would make sense. I killed the processes that were running and still get this: Oy, I see it now. The problem is here [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # su dale When you su, the X server is refusing to allow the user (dale) to connect to the running X server (which is owned by root). Now the solution for this is something that I normally do in the other direction (to allow root to connect to the user's X server); and while I'm sure it will work in reverse, I myself wouldn't suggest it since I don't necessarily want to impinge on user privilege separation if the base user in question is root. So what I would say is firstly why are you running as root and su-ing to a user, rather than running as a user and su-ing to root, since there's no reason whatsoever to do it this way (it's certainly not more secure, in fact, much less so afaics). Secondly, does Mozilla open as the user logged in (whether that's root or dale) But anyway, what you need to do, iirc, is to copy ~/.Xauthority from the logged-in user's HOME folder to the folder of the user who is the target of su-- normally root, so this would mean copying from Dale's home to /root... but you're running as root, and I just don't like the idea of copying .Xauthority from the /root folder to dale's HOME. So I would suggest running as a user and copying the file from dale's home to /root, after which root should not receive this error (if in fact su-ing to root and running Mozilla does in fact generate this error, which it may very well not). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send email anymore. O_O
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:15:40 -0600, Dale wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # su dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ mozilla Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified By default, su does not allow access to X. You can mess around setting and exporting $DISPLAY, or you can use sux instead of su. sux is a shell wrapper for su that takes care of this. Or you could log in as dale in the first place. I don't see why you need su at all. -- Neil Bothwick * * * - Tribbles - teenage mutant ninja tribbles signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Friday 13 January 2006 06:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:15:40 -0600, Dale wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # su dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] / $ mozilla Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified By default, su does not allow access to X. You can mess around setting and exporting $DISPLAY, or you can use sux instead of su. sux is a shell wrapper for su that takes care of this. Or you could log in as dale in the first place. I don't see why you need su at all. This is for both Holly and Neil. I login to my GUI as dale, not root. I just use the konsole with root access for doing a emerge or copying files over or something. I also use it to ssh into other boxes, restart my network etc etc etc. As far as where my GUI is concerned, it won't let me login as root. I am logged into my GUI as dale though. I also tried dale2 and a very new user named test. Mozilla will not start with them either. I will try them again after this email though, making sure there is no running mozilla this time. I also use that konsole as root because it will allow root to kill a process that little old dale can't. Some of those Mozilla processes that were running were running as root, not sure why. It never did that before. I did also open a regular console, as dale not root, and when I type in Mozilla, it gives me this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mozilla No running windows found ** (mozilla-bin:20715): WARNING **: Owner of /tmp/orbit-dale2 is not the c urrent user Since I use dale for the most part, I trashed the orbit-dale2 file and it still won't start. It just comes back to a prompt and that is it. Any more ideas? Sorry on the confusion. I confuse myself sometimes too. LOL Like right about now. Thanks Dale -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any more ideas? Sorry on the confusion. I confuse myself sometimes too. LOL Like right about now. Most likely you hosed the permissions on your ~/.mozilla directory. First, try: chown -R dale:users ~/.mozilla chmod -R u+rw ~/.mozilla If that doesn't work, I suggest posting the output of: strace -f -e open mozilla 21 | grep -Ev = [0-9]+ -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:04:26PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: I also use that konsole as root because it will allow root to kill a process that little old dale can't. Some of those Mozilla processes that were running were running as root, not sure why. It never did that before. I did also open a regular console, as dale not root, and when I type in Mozilla, it gives me this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mozilla No running windows found ** (mozilla-bin:20715): WARNING **: Owner of /tmp/orbit-dale2 is not the c urrent user Since I use dale for the most part, I trashed the orbit-dale2 file and it still won't start. It just comes back to a prompt and that is it. Okay, the only time I've seen it when something similar to what you describe happens (i.e. enter mozilla on the console and have it return to the prompt) is when there is an instance of mozilla already running. Try the following: as ROOT, kill all running mozilla processes. Including all instanced of mozilla-bin and mozilla-launcher. In a console which you logged in as dale, NOT via su/sudo or the like, try to run mozilla. Does it work? No? Again, kill all running mozilla processes, and send us the output of (running as dale) $ strace -o mozilla.strace.output mozilla (send us the file mozilla.strace.output that is produced by the above command). W -- Q: What's yellow and is expressible as a power series? A: A bananalytic function Sortir en Pantoufles: up 62 days, 11:24 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 13:09, Willie Wong wrote: Okay, the only time I've seen it when something similar to what you describe happens (i.e. enter mozilla on the console and have it return to the prompt) is when there is an instance of mozilla already running. Try the following: as ROOT, kill all running mozilla processes. Including all instanced of mozilla-bin and mozilla-launcher. In a console which you logged in as dale, NOT via su/sudo or the like, try to run mozilla. Does it work? No? Again, kill all running mozilla processes, and send us the output of (running as dale) $ strace -o mozilla.strace.output mozilla (send us the file mozilla.strace.output that is produced by the above command). W Oh, you may notice that I typed in Mozilla first then the long command. I did kill all mozilla processes before typing in the strace command. I wanted a fresh start for it. Thanks again for all the help. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Hi Neil, on Friday, 2006-01-13 at 12:51:32, you wrote: By default, su does not allow access to X. You can mess around setting and exporting $DISPLAY, or you can use sux instead of su. sux is a shell wrapper for su that takes care of this. I wonder why that should be necessary in the first place as su seems to support this .Xauthority linking on its own. On SuSE systems /usr/X11R6/bin/sux is just a symbolic link to /bin/su, I just tried it here and it works. The bad thing is that sudo sux does not work as in this case sux is called as root already. Perhaps I should write my own suxdo wrapper? :) regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpIGWXVB3M10.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi Dale, on Friday, 2006-01-13 at 13:40:00, you wrote: I think something is wrong with xorg or something myself. I can read. LOL If anyone else wants to see this thing, let me know. I'll send it to you. I noticed similar things can happen when for some reason (DHCP, some dialup script, ...) your hostname changes while X is running already. Everything running continues running just fine but X thinks the new connections were coming from a different host and refuses them. regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpilTXZPHAnZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Friday 13 January 2006 15:58, Matthias Bethke wrote: Hi Dale, on Friday, 2006-01-13 at 13:40:00, you wrote: I think something is wrong with xorg or something myself. I can read. LOL If anyone else wants to see this thing, let me know. I'll send it to you. I noticed similar things can happen when for some reason (DHCP, some dialup script, ...) your hostname changes while X is running already. Everything running continues running just fine but X thinks the new connections were coming from a different host and refuses them. regards Matthias Well, I did a windoze thing and rebooted. It got worse. That was when Mozilla stopped working at all. My rig has always been named smoker, since the install anyway. I have a new install on the way on another hard drive. If that one does the same crap, I'm installing Mandrake for a while anyway.goes and pukes at the thought of Mandrake :-( Things I have done so far: Renamed ~/.mozilla thought maybe it was a corrupt file Tried two different users, no workey re-emerged Mozilla then did a emerge -C mozilla and then re-emerged mozilla again. Still no worky. Any ideas? Anybody want to host this large strace file so others can see it? I don't have anyway to host it here. Thanks Dale Oh, Willie, it is working on it. It adds a new line from time to time. I'm just twidling my thumbs waiting on it. LOL I'll send it when it gets tired of chewing on it. O_O -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Hi Dale, on Friday, 2006-01-13 at 16:42:33, you wrote: Any ideas? Anybody want to host this large strace file so others can see it? I don't have anyway to host it here. No problem, just send it and I'll put it online. regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpjxu547HhKC.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:42:33PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: Well, I did a windoze thing and rebooted. It got worse. That was when Mozilla stopped working at all. My rig has always been named smoker, since the install anyway. I have a new install on the way on another hard drive. If that one does the same crap, I'm installing Mandrake for a while anyway.goes and pukes at the thought of Mandrake :-( Things I have done so far: Renamed ~/.mozilla thought maybe it was a corrupt file Tried two different users, no workey re-emerged Mozilla then did a emerge -C mozilla and then re-emerged mozilla again. Still no worky. Any ideas? Anybody want to host this large strace file so others can see it? I don't have anyway to host it here. Thanks Dale Oh, Willie, it is working on it. It adds a new line from time to time. I'm just twidling my thumbs waiting on it. LOL I'll send it when it gets tired of chewing on it. O_O From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? W -- Will will will unless Will wills willingly. Maybe Willow ~tiredwired. Sunday Oct. 6. 6:00pm Sortir en Pantoufles: up 62 days, 15:59 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 17:38, Willie Wong wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? W I'm no guru but that was what it looked like to me too. The things it says are missing are in /usr/lib/mozilla if I recall correctly. That is not related to a specific user and may tell why it works for nobody, including my tests on other users. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge --info Portage 2.0.53 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686) = System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13 dev-lang/python: 2.3.4-r1, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.20 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident -pipe -fvisibility-inlines-hidden DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo; LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,now MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 3dnow X acl acpi alsa amd apm arts artsd artswrappersuid audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr chroot clanJavaScript cups curl dbus doc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat f-prot fam fdftk ffmpeg foomaticdb fortran gaim gcj gd gdbm gif gimpprint gkrellm glut gmp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal hbci hpijs idn imagemagick imlib ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg justify kde lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx mng motif mozdomi mozilla mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin offensive ofx ogg oggvorbis opengl openoffice pam parse-clocks pcre pdflib perl png ppds pysol python qt quicktime readline scanner scribus sdl spell sse ssl tcltk tcpd tiff tkinter truetype truetype-fonts tuxracer type1-fonts udev usb vorbis xml xml2 xmms xprint xv xvid yahoo zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv mozilla These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2 -crypt -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I recently removed gnome from my USE line. When I recompiled Mozilla the second time, I added it back. I was hoping that maybe something got broke because of that. I did run a revdep-rebuild and it said all was OK. Yea, right. Tell Mozilla that. Still clueless. Thanks MUCH for the help. I'll be happy if I can get it to open and let me save my email and bookmarks. I sort of like installing Gentoo. Me weird huh? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Dale schreef: I'll be happy if I can get it to open and let me save my email and bookmarks. You don't need to open Mozilla to save your email and bookmarks. They are in your profile folder: bookmarks.html (in ~/.mozilla/profile_name/random_string.xlt/bookmarks.html) is your bookmarks file and your mail is in well, I admit I don't quite know the exact path, because I am 1) a Thunderbird user (so my mail would be in ~/.thunderbird rather than ~/.mozilla, except that I) 2) put my mail in a specific folder rather than the default. But look in your ~/.mozilla/profile_name/random_string.xlt/ folder and see if there isn't a folder in there called Mail, which contains a folder named for your pop3 server. What's in there is your mail. Just copy the whole folder somewhere, and when you get Mozilla working again (or switch to Firefox and Thunderbird, if you like), you can either drop the files right back in the new profile folder created (bookmarks and mail), or import them (mail), or set the mail program to look in the new location for mail rather than the default. Believe me, this is why I still use Mozilla-based products; I have the same mail and bookmarks that I had over 5 years ago, before I: 1) switched from Netscape to Mozilla 2) carried the hard drive on which the mail and other data was contained across the ocean in a carry-on; 3) switched from Windows to Linux (dual-boot, so the Mozilla profile folders were shared between both OSes) 4) switched from Mozilla to Phoenix 5) dumped Windows 6) switched from Phoenix to Firebird to Firefox, and from MozMail to Thunderbird. The Mozilla applications are *extremely* interoperable, and your personal files are very easy to manage. I back mine up all the time (since it's just the one folder with mail and some loose files in my profile). So really, you don't have to solve this first to retrieve that data. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 18:42, Holly Bostick wrote: You don't need to open Mozilla to save your email and bookmarks. They are in your profile folder: bookmarks.html (in ~/.mozilla/profile_name/random_string.xlt/bookmarks.html) is your bookmarks file and your mail is in well, I admit I don't quite know the exact path, because I am 1) a Thunderbird user (so my mail would be in ~/.thunderbird rather than ~/.mozilla, except that I) 2) put my mail in a specific folder rather than the default. But look in your ~/.mozilla/profile_name/random_string.xlt/ folder and see if there isn't a folder in there called Mail, which contains a folder named for your pop3 server. What's in there is your mail. Just copy the whole folder somewhere, and when you get Mozilla working again (or switch to Firefox and Thunderbird, if you like), you can either drop the files right back in the new profile folder created (bookmarks and mail), or import them (mail), or set the mail program to look in the new location for mail rather than the default. Believe me, this is why I still use Mozilla-based products; I have the same mail and bookmarks that I had over 5 years ago, before I: 1) switched from Netscape to Mozilla 2) carried the hard drive on which the mail and other data was contained across the ocean in a carry-on; 3) switched from Windows to Linux (dual-boot, so the Mozilla profile folders were shared between both OSes) 4) switched from Mozilla to Phoenix 5) dumped Windows 6) switched from Phoenix to Firebird to Firefox, and from MozMail to Thunderbird. The Mozilla applications are *extremely* interoperable, and your personal files are very easy to manage. I back mine up all the time (since it's just the one folder with mail and some loose files in my profile). So really, you don't have to solve this first to retrieve that data. Holly I was pretty sure they were in there somewhere and that they could be saved. My big worry is that something !may! be corrupt and copying them over may mess up Mozilla again. That said, I think Mozilla is borked as a application and has nothing to do with any user at all. I'm wondering if my hard drive is what is causing this but I am not getting any other errors so I'm clueless. I may try a emerge -e world but I am moving on with the new install on my other hard drive. Something is going to work. Thanks for the comment though Holly. If yours survived coming across the pond, mine should be OK too. Anybody have any new ideas? Still curious about that emerge -e world. Couldn't hurt. It would just slow down my other install. Dale :-) I miss Mozilla. I think I lost my right arm. sniff sniffwipes tears :-( -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Dale schreef: On Friday 13 January 2006 17:38, Willie Wong wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? Looking at the trace, I just picked a random file not found to see what that file was on my system: equery belongs /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 in *... ] So I don't have it (ok, admittedly I don't have Mozilla either, but I do have Firefox, so) za 01/14/06 01:55 motub - locate libXp.so.6 /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 /usr/lib/libXp.so.6.2 za 01/14/06 01:55 motub - equery belongs /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 in *... ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 (/usr/lib/libXp.so.6 - libXp.so.6.2) H perhaps an X problem? Looking at the other files that are not being found, they sure look a lot like X files as well (no pun intended): libXinerama.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXp.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86dga.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86misc.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) and so on. I mean, honestly, look at the path below: [pid 6829] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libXxf86misc.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) I cannot imagine that there is any valid configuration that puts libXxf86 anything in /usr/lib/mozilla/*plugins*, of all places. I don't want to speculate on how this might have happened, but if I was you, I would 1) unmerge Mozilla completely (don't worry, your profile is in your ~/folder, so none of your personal settings or mail will be lost); 2) delete all /usr/lib/Mozilla folders 3) re-emerge X.org (yes I know, it takes forever, but clearly something is very seriously borked if Mozilla thinks that the X libs are in its own install folders, since the only one who would likely have told it that is X itself) 4) re-emerge Mozilla. 5) pray. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 19:09, Holly Bostick wrote: Looking at the trace, I just picked a random file not found to see what that file was on my system: equery belongs /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 in *... ] So I don't have it (ok, admittedly I don't have Mozilla either, but I do have Firefox, so) za 01/14/06 01:55 motub - locate libXp.so.6 /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 /usr/lib/libXp.so.6.2 za 01/14/06 01:55 motub - equery belongs /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 in *... ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 (/usr/lib/libXp.so.6 - libXp.so.6.2) H perhaps an X problem? Looking at the other files that are not being found, they sure look a lot like X files as well (no pun intended): libXinerama.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXp.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86dga.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86misc.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) and so on. I mean, honestly, look at the path below: [pid 6829] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libXxf86misc.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) I cannot imagine that there is any valid configuration that puts libXxf86 anything in /usr/lib/mozilla/*plugins*, of all places. I don't want to speculate on how this might have happened, but if I was you, I would 1) unmerge Mozilla completely (don't worry, your profile is in your ~/folder, so none of your personal settings or mail will be lost); 2) delete all /usr/lib/Mozilla folders 3) re-emerge X.org (yes I know, it takes forever, but clearly something is very seriously borked if Mozilla thinks that the X libs are in its own install folders, since the only one who would likely have told it that is X itself) 4) re-emerge Mozilla. 5) pray. HTH, Holly OK. I did do a emerge -C mozilla once. I even re-emerged xorg too. What about this: 1) emerge -C mozilla 2) delete the heck out of /usr/lib/Mozilla. :-) Maybe up arrow and hit return one more time for good measure. ;-) 3) emerge xorg one more time, for good measure. 4) emerge mozilla 5) Say prayer that it works, even though it has not worked yet. ;) That sound like a reasonable plan you think? Should I take out the gnome flag that I put back in my USE line? I thought that may have broke something because that was the last thing I changed. Should I really start looking at that hard drive you think? Something happened to those files. I didn't even know where they were until today. LOL I promise, I didn't do it. Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 02:09:16AM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: Dale schreef: On Friday 13 January 2006 17:38, Willie Wong wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? Looking at the trace, I just picked a random file not found to see what that file was on my system: equery belongs /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/mozilla/libXp.so.6 in *... ] So I don't have it (ok, admittedly I don't have Mozilla either, but I do have Firefox, so) It is actually quite normal. The mozilla binary searches through the system library paths for libs, and uses the first one it finds. It is quite normal for the strace to have many files that doesn't exist. Though, it seems that mozilla didn't even quite make it to starting in that last strace: it took Dale 30 minutes, and it still hasn't gotten around to loading the chrome components. I couldn't see anything obviously wrong from the trace, though someone else might have better insight. W -- It's easy to come up with new ideas; the hard part is letting go of what worked for you two years ago, but will soon be out of date. -- Roger Von Oech Sortir en Pantoufles: up 62 days, 18:59 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: libXinerama.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXp.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86dga.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) libXxf86misc.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Actually, this is perfectly normal. The linker goes through it's search path for libraries, trying to load each library from each directory in /etc/ld.so.conf. It is typical to see many failures until the right directory is found. For example: (/usr/lib/mozilla/libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (/usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3 As long as it found it somewhere, it is ok. Interestingly, for those of you using prelink, you won't see this search for pre-linked binaries. It is part of what makes prelinked systems a bit faster: strace -e open -f /usr/bin/xdpyinfo /dev/null open(/usr/lib/libXext.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3 open(/usr/lib/libX11.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3 open(/usr/lib/libXtst.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3 ... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? And from what Dale sent me it looks like the same thing. It sort of just ends at: [pid 3564] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE unfinished ... [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3566 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3567 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- This is making me think there is some kind of java or plugin problem, since .jar files are essentially java libraries. Dale, do you have +nptl +nptlonly for glibc? I didn't see those in your emerge --info output. My memory is a little fuzzy, but I remember someone on this list had a problem with java a couple of months ago that was fixed by remerging glibc with +nptl +nptlonly. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 21:00, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? And from what Dale sent me it looks like the same thing. It sort of just ends at: [pid 3564] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE unfinished ... [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3566 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3567 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- This is making me think there is some kind of java or plugin problem, since .jar files are essentially java libraries. Dale, do you have +nptl +nptlonly for glibc? I didn't see those in your emerge --info output. My memory is a little fuzzy, but I remember someone on this list had a problem with java a couple of months ago that was fixed by remerging glibc with +nptl +nptlonly. -Richard Honestly, I dunno what nptl is. I generally leave USE stuff alone unless I KNOW it is something I don't need or someone tells me I don't need it. I went through this recently with the gnome USE flag. I'm in the process of doing this right now: 1) emerge -C mozilla 2) delete the heck out of /usr/lib/Mozilla. :-) Maybe up arrow and hit return one more time for good measure. ;-) 3) emerge xorg one more time, for good measure. 4) emerge mozilla 5) Say prayer that it works, even though it has not worked yet. ;) I'm on number 4 at the moment. It should be close to done, somewhere close anyway. If not, I'm going to shoot it. LOL Thanks for the help. I just hope this works. I don't guess it could get any worse. Oh, after I re-emerge xorg I logged out, reset the GUI and logged back in again. Wish me luck. If not, I'll be back. O_O Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 19:00, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [pid 3564] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE snip This is making me think there is some kind of java or plugin problem, since .jar files are essentially java libraries. Actually, in this case, probably not. Mozilla uses jars for many many things. In fact they're really just renamed Zip files. It could be anything (though this one has something to do with the UI components). -- # # electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia # pgpYfGKAIYJJf.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 08:00:15PM -0700, Penguin Lover Richard Fish squawked: On 1/13/06, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what you sent me, it doesn't look like mozilla even finished loading all the libraries. Can you post emerge --info and emerge -pv mozilla? And from what Dale sent me it looks like the same thing. It sort of just ends at: [pid 3564] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE unfinished ... [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3566 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- Process 3567 attached [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3564] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- [pid 3550] --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- This is something that I was worried about. I can't think of why/what should be sending SIGRTMIN This is making me think there is some kind of java or plugin problem, since .jar files are essentially java libraries. I am under the impression that comm.jar is what defines the layout/theme for mozilla. Though my memory may very well be wrong. Dale, do you have +nptl +nptlonly for glibc? I didn't see those in your emerge --info output. Don't think he does. His strace also shows that he uses pthreads. My memory is a little fuzzy, but I remember someone on this list had a problem with java a couple of months ago that was fixed by remerging glibc with +nptl +nptlonly. W -- Here, we have a charge conducting potato. ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM, P-town PHY 304 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 62 days, 20:20 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, John Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 19:00, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [pid 3564] open(/usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/comm.jar, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE snip This is making me think there is some kind of java or plugin problem, since .jar files are essentially java libraries. Actually, in this case, probably not. Mozilla uses jars for many many things. In fact they're really just renamed Zip files. It could be anything (though this one has something to do with the UI components). Ah, you are right. Looking at the comm.jar I see a bunch of .xul (interface definition), .css, and .js (javascript, not java!) files. Still, I remember that libpthread used signals, although I'm not sure exactly what signal, for thread synchronization. So all of the SIGRTs with nothing else occuring is still making me think that maybe there is a threading issue here. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I dunno what nptl is. I generally leave USE stuff alone unless I KNOW it is something I don't need or someone tells me I don't need it. I went through this recently with the gnome USE flag. nptl is native posix threading library! What it means is that since the 2.6 kernel now supports threads natively, that glibc can call the APIs in the kernel for thread creation and synchronization, instead of simulating it with another library (libpthread). So if you have +nptl, programs have the option of using native threads instead of pthreads. This is usually a good thing, as native thread synchronization mechanisms are significantly faster than pthreads. Using +nptlonly causes libpthreads to not be built at all (actually it is, but just a set of stubs around the native methods). This forces all applications to use native threads. There are some behavior differences between nptl and posix threads that caused some problems with applications early on. However, I personally have been using nptlonly for a while (I don't remember exactly when I turned it on), without any trouble. In fact, AFAIK, nobody has reported any trouble with nptlonly recently. bugs.gentoo.org only returns 2 open bugs relating to nptl, one while building an older version of mozilla-firefox that nobody has been able to reproduce, and another indicating that +nptl +nptlonly or -nptl -nptlonly are the only sane options currently. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 22:00, Willie Wong wrote: Don't think he does. His strace also shows that he uses pthreads. My memory is a little fuzzy, but I remember someone on this list had a problem with java a couple of months ago that was fixed by remerging glibc with +nptl +nptlonly. W OK. Here is where I am now: I did the five things I posted earlier. I even re-emerged my java stuff and glibc with the ntpl stuff. Still no go here. May try to emerge Mozilla again. Could this have anything to do with the gcc upgrade? I also added the -gnome in my USE line a while back to if that matters. This is my USE line in make.conf: USE=acl acpi alsa amd arts artsd artswrappersuid -bonobo cdr chroot clanJavaScript -crypt dbus doc -eds ethereal f-prot fdftk gaim gcj gimpprint gkrellm -gnome gphoto2 gtk hal hbci hpijs gif java javascript jbig justify kde mmx mozilla nsplugin ofx offensive openoffice -oss parse-clocks ppds pysol scanner scribus sse tcltk tiff tkinter truetype tuxracer udev usb X xml xprint yahoo 3dnow I'm about to start a emerge -ev world. Is there anything wrong with this USE line before I start? I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. I might try mozilla-thunderbird (or even mozilla-thunderbird-bin, or mozilla-bin). -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 22:28, Dale wrote: I'm about to start a emerge -ev world. Is there anything wrong with this USE line before I start? I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. Thanks Dale :-) I thought of one more thing I want to try. I'm going back one version of Mozilla to see if that helps any. I'm downloading mozilla-1.7.11-r3 right now. It says it will take about 3 hours. Dial-up sucks. :-( I'm going to bed. I'll let you know what blows up tomorrow. H. May start a emerge -ev world on the side. Maybe not. It's screwed up enough already. LOL Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 22:43, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/13/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of anything else to try unless you guys know of something. I might try mozilla-thunderbird (or even mozilla-thunderbird-bin, or mozilla-bin). -Richard I'm going to try that one. It is a lot faster to download and if it works, there may be hope yet for this install and no emerge -e world. If not, well, I'm still screwed. *_* Thanks for that tip. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 1/12/06, Dale Kirkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Mozilla for browsing and email.Last night for some reason it stoppedsending email but it does give me a error.This is it:Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know of anything else that could cause that trouble. Ghislain Bourgeois
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to Edit - Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing Server (SMTP) and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name setting. -- # # electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia # pgpSwi24LsM6w.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 2006-01-12 15:54 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. This generally means that you are using the wrong mail server and has *nothing* to do with which mail client you are using. Contact your ISP's support department and verify that you are using the correct SMTP server. -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * pgpsm73jAOqYP.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 16:02, Ghislain Bourgeois wrote: On 1/12/06, Dale Kirkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Mozilla for browsing and email. Last night for some reason it stopped sending email but it does give me a error. This is it: Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know of anything else that could cause that trouble. Ghislain Bourgeois Funny you mention that because Kmail is giving me fits too. This is hopefully from Kmail. HOPEFULLY. Dale -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Ghislain Bourgeois wrote: On 1/12/06, *Dale Kirkley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Mozilla for browsing and email. Last night for some reason it stopped sending email but it does give me a error. This is it: Did you update Mozilla recently? Because if kmail works, I don't know of anything else that could cause that trouble. Ghislain Bourgeois I'm trying to send this from Mozilla this time. Dale says prayer that it works Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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John Myers wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to Edit - Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing Server (SMTP) and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name setting. Well, I am in Mozilla and it just started working again. This email is from Mozilla. If you get this, it works, for now anyway. I may be back though. Kmail stopped for a while then started up again. Now Mozilla works again. I hope. This is confusing me. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:54:24PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale Kirkley squawked: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. That's it. It don't send anything but it receives the new emails fine. My ISP says they have not heard from anyone else on this. I set up Kmail, pukes LOL, and it works fine. It downloads and will let me send emails like usual. That is how I am sending this. At least that is the hope anyway. One thing I have noticed, I can send email to my ISP, the info address or someone that works there. I can not send to Yahoo, gmail or this list from Mozilla. I can go to their website and login there and it works fine too, just like Kmail. OK. BIG UPDATE. I tried to send this from Kmail and got the same error. Kmail DOES NOT work either. I am having to send this through my ISPs website, which sucks. I did a copy and paste for the rest of this email. I doubt it is a problem with Mozilla. What ISP do you use? How are you sending mail? Do you just have a standard-ish postfix/sendmail configuration, or do you relay your mail through your ISP? It sounds to me like Yahoo/Gmail etc are blocking your mail because you are not an authorized mail server for your ISP's domain. That is actually fairly standard anti-spam tactic nowadays. (Heck, AOL and half of Taiwan even blocks mail from my ISP's official mail server.) W -- Faye: You almost had a date! But you got dumped at the last minute in favor of an epiphany. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 61 days, 14:50 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 02:16 pm, Dale wrote: Funny you mention that because Kmail is giving me fits too. This is hopefully from Kmail. HOPEFULLY. User-Agent: KMail/1.9 Yup, it's Kmail. What setup do you use for sending mail? Some ISPs have configs that block port 25 from being used for third party servers. Could be they put in a port blocker recently, and you're just one of the few people who are having problems with it. -- Eric Bliss systems design and integration, CreativeCow.Net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 16:21, Dale wrote: John Myers wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2006 13:54, Dale Kirkley wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Sounds like you need to check your SMTP Authentication settings. Go to Edit - Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing Server (SMTP) and verify that the settings are correct, especially the user name setting. Well, I am in Mozilla and it just started working again. This email is from Mozilla. If you get this, it works, for now anyway. I may be back though. Kmail stopped for a while then started up again. Now Mozilla works again. I hope. This is confusing me. I saw something similar with a client. she was using outlook express and on an sbc dsl connection. but was sending email for her roadrunner account. she was on sbc's net, and using sbc's mail server, but sometimes, not always, but most of the time, it would tell her that relaying was denied because of an invalid FROM address. looked like there were several actual mail servers behind a round-robin dns name and some had settings to filter on the from and only allow sbcglobal.net in the from. what a pain in the rear. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Friday 13 January 2006 03:24, Dale Kirkley wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. Do you use SMTP Authentication? If not, enable it. Looks like your ISP mail server has started requiring users to login/authenticate before they can use its SMTP service. Read a bit more in this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1316842 -- Regards, Abhay pgpR75ZI8Mwzv.pgp Description: PGP signature
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OK. I'm trying to send this through Kmail. Mozilla stopped working again. I'm not sure how it is set up. I just set it up when I did my install a long time ago and gave it my user name and password. It worked all this time and now it stops and it is starting to TICK ME OFF. If you get this, Kmail works, Mozilla doesn't. I just tried Mozilla, same stupid error as before. I do connect to my ISP with a dial-up. I'm not trying to relay though some other website or anything. I connect to exceedtech.net and that is what I use to send my email through. I'm clueless. Maybe a fresh install will help. LOL Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 17:36, Dale wrote: OK. I'm trying to send this through Kmail. Mozilla stopped working again. I'm not sure how it is set up. I just set it up when I did my install a long time ago and gave it my user name and password. It worked all this time and now it stops and it is starting to TICK ME OFF. If you get this, Kmail works, Mozilla doesn't. I just tried Mozilla, same stupid error as before. I do connect to my ISP with a dial-up. I'm not trying to relay though some other website or anything. I connect to exceedtech.net and that is what I use to send my email through. I'm clueless. Maybe a fresh install will help. LOL Dale :-) OK. I tried something a little different. I created a new user, dale2. I logged in with that user then set up all the stuff to connect to the net. Then I tried to send email with Mozilla, same error. It looks like it is not a user setting but maybe something with Mozilla itself, since Kmail works OK now. I'm going to recompile Mozilla just in case it is a bad file or something. I'll post back and let you know what happens. This is some weird crap. Thanks for the help. Will keep you posted. Feel free to throw me any ideas though. This is my last hope except to delete everything and start over, Mozilla wise. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thursday 12 January 2006 18:01, Dale wrote: I'm going to recompile Mozilla just in case it is a bad file or something. I'll post back and let you know what happens. Dale :-) OK. I re-emerged Mozilla and now it won't even come up at all. I went into a Konsole as dale, not root, and typed in mozilla and nothing happens. No error or anything it just comes back to a prompt. I logged out and did a ctrl alt bcksp and logged back in, nothing. I'm not sure what is going on here but something is really borked. Now I have no browser either except for Konqueror. Anybody have any clues? I'm about to start a fresh install, no kidding either. Is there some kind of service that could affect this? How do I find out what is keeping Mozilla from starting since I have no error message? This sucks. Dale :-( Oh, I'm using Kmail, again. At least it works. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
