SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-18 Thread Dave de Noronha
Hi 
I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and

cannot get it in a format we can use.  I do not understand why it is in
Mailable format.  Can anyone please tell me how to do it or, if possible
send me the code 

Tia 
Dave


Re: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor

2008-06-18 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
Both the 'FC AUTOREFR ON' and the 'FCONAPPC' command can be either included in 
the FCONX $PROFILE, or you can append the commands to the PerfKit invocation as 
follows: 'perfkit fc autorefr on;fconappc;' . 

Eginhard
  - Original Message - 
  From: Howard Rifkind 
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor


  Eginhard, 

  Thanks for the information below...works as advertised.

  One further questions, is there any way that the 'FC AUTOREFR ON'  command 
and the 'FCONAPPC' can be automated?

  We would like to have this automatically done to avoid operator intervention.

  Thanks.


   Eginhard Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2008 6:06 AM 

  Sure, the Performance Toolkit uses local APPC/VM connections to allow 
performance data retrieval from any number of other virtual machines on the 
same system. 
  I believe the original setup for PERFSVM will automatically activate the 
APPC/VM data retrieval interface, and it uses the APPC/VM resource ID 
'FCXRES00' that the FCONAPPC command expects to connect to by default. If you 
already use the Web interface then APPC/VM connections are certainly activated, 
too.

  But before trying to use the interface you'll have to authorize any 
additional users for data retrieval by including them in the 'FCONRMT AUTHORIZ' 
file (see 'Performance Toolkit Guide' pages 12/13). 

  You then just need an additional CMS machine to
  - log on to the second screen
  - start PerfKit there *without* performance data collection
(give it a dummy FCONX $PROFILE, or make sure the
'FC MONCOLL ON' statement is commented out)
  - then start a performance data retrieval session with the command
'FCONAPPC'

  If the intention is to let a specific performance screen be permanently 
displayed and also automatically refreshed then enter also the command 'FC 
AUTOREFR ON' in the client machine *before* activating the data retrieval 
session with the 'FCONAPPC' command.

  Eginhard Jaeger
- Original Message - 
From: Howard Rifkind 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor


Off the top of the lists hat would anyone know if you can connect a second 
physical monitor for z/VM.

I would like to have one in the computer room and one in the Systems 
Programmers area.

I know you can have a web interface to the monitor but that isn't way the 
manager wants.

Thanks.



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Re: Bogus CPU utilization numbers from Linux Red Hat 4.6

2008-06-18 Thread Barton Robinson
Please.  ESAMON has been correcting the Linux numbers since the problem was discovered in 
2001.




Thomas Kern wrote:

I think that the discussion was that tools like PERFTK, ESAMON, CP IND 
USER show accurate numbers for what the whole virtual machine is using, 
and the the numbers from tools INSIDE a linux virtual machine such as 
TOP, SAR vary depending upon the level of the kernel, the distribution 
and the workload of the rest of the system.


/Tom Kern

Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:


Hi

I saw something in one of the postings that stated that the CPU
utilization numbers that were reported in the z/VM Performance Toolkit
on behalf of a Red Hat 4.6 z/Linux guest were not correct.  Is it only
the PTK that does not report the correct numbers or is it any monitor?
Do we know if the numbers reported are bogus on the high side or low
side?  I am running z/VM 5.3 and the Linux Kernel is at 2.6.9-67.

Thanks Terry






Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-18 Thread David Boyes
It's in MAILABLE format because it's actually a package of several
files. 

Download the MAILABLE file to your VM system. RENAME the file to
SWPG0803 EXEC and run it to extract the 11 encoded files.  Use and
enjoy. 


Re: Bogus CPU utilization numbers from Linux Red Hat 4.6

2008-06-18 Thread Thomas Kern
Sorry Barton.

I wasn't sure of a good wording and figured you would step in to provide 
the
correct state of affairs.

/Tom Kern


On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:19:39 -0800, Barton Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please.  ESAMON has been correcting the Linux numbers since the problem 
was
discovered in
2001.



Thomas Kern wrote:

 I think that the discussion was that tools like PERFTK, ESAMON, CP IND

 USER show accurate numbers for what the whole virtual machine is using
,
 and the the numbers from tools INSIDE a linux virtual machine such as
 TOP, SAR vary depending upon the level of the kernel, the distribution

 and the workload of the rest of the system.

 /Tom Kern

 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:

 Hi

 I saw something in one of the postings that stated that the CPU
 utilization numbers that were reported in the z/VM Performance Toolki
t
 on behalf of a Red Hat 4.6 z/Linux guest were not correct.  Is it onl
y
 the PTK that does not report the correct numbers or is it any monitor
?
 Do we know if the numbers reported are bogus on the high side or low
 side?  I am running z/VM 5.3 and the Linux Kernel is at 2.6.9-67.

 Thanks Terry




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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Tom Duerbusch
3 months was chosen back in the early '80s.  
This is local government.

Revenue in:
Sales tax:  Comes in automatically.  Audits may be done at a later time.
Federal distribution of income tax to local gov'ts:  Comes in based on latest 
population figures.
Earnings tax:  Comes in automatically.  May be audits at a later date.
Real Estate taxes:  We do have to bill.  But can be same as last year.

Revenue out:
Payroll:  Pay same as last time.
Accounting:  Pay the biggies manually.  We have 3 months before most businesses 
will take action.

Hence, 3 months.

But we also produce election notices.  Can't miss those on a Federal election.  
But I don't know what would happen in mist of a disaster.

But I'm pretty sure I have it down to a month, assuming I survive. G

Most plans are for the big earth quake.  It would take out City Hall and the 
region.  No problems with recovery then.  There will be few left alive.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting



 Michael Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/18/2008 9:04 AM 
Hi Tom,

Holy Cow!  A 3 MONTH recovery window?!?!?  I don't think I've ever come
across such a generous recovery window, most companies would be out of
business in 3 months without access to their mission-critical systems.
:)

On another note, has anyone ever come across an FTP stage for the CMS
PIPE command?  Someone on the LINUX-390 listserv suggested there might
have been one once upon a time..

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


It depends on your recovery window.  
In the shop where we don't have disaster recovery tests, the window is
officially 3 months, but I have it down to 1 month. In the shop where we
do disaster recovery tests, the window is 3 days. IMHO, the closer you
get to a hot site (already spinning a copy of your files), the more you
need the monkey boy.  In the days recovery window, good instructions
are needed.  In the month recovery window, we can get a system
programmer consultant (to replace me, a consultant), that can get the
system up.

But all that depends on your recovery time frame, what you have in place
(contacts, contracts, locations, etc), and what the shop is willing to
pay for.

We are pretty much in sync in the other aspects.

I'm planning on a VM recovery system, on a single 3590 tape, with the
script to restore the system, on floppy.  That includes a small VSE
system (no VM tape management, but VSE does have Dynam, and all the rest
of the 390 backups are done within VSE), to restore each of the other
VSE systems from tape (currently 3590, soon to be TS1120).  Then, we
(may) need to do application level restores from the most current backup
available.  But that can be done via the scheduling software.  

Yep, DDR is nice in that it restores the cylinders that are on that tape
without caring if the cylinders before or after are done.  Just mount
the tapes, have rexx scan the TLBL, attach the disk drive and restore
that set of cylinders.  Eventually, all cylinders that got backed up,
will be restored.  I had a similar concept back in the late 80's/early
'90s.  

Thanks for the info

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

Law of Cat Acceleration

  A cat will accelerate at a constant rate, until he gets good and
  ready to stop.


 Michael Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2008 12:28 PM 
Hi Tom,

You really should plan towards monkey boy as being the only resource
capable of performing the recovery.  I classify disasters in three
classes:

1.  Minor: This would be like a prolonged regional power failure, but
all facilities, systems and equipment are still present.

2.  Major:  This would be something involving the total loss of the
computer facility and perhaps even some staff, but at least some people
with expertise and knowledge of the business and systems are available
to participate in the recovery.  For example, a fire at the computer
facility.

3.  Total:  All facilities and staff are impacted and unavailable,
nobody has expertise and knowledge of the business and systems - this is
the monkey boy scenario.  An example might be a natural disaster
(hurricane, tornado, earthquake, etc.) or act of terrorism.

The recovery system is prestaged on tape, it's a small footprint z/VM
system with EVERYTHING needed to perform the recovery (it senses
available ARM libraries, networks, DASD, etc. etc.).  Restoring the
recovery system to disk and IPL'ing is the one part of the process that
is not menu driven, but it's well documented and really only involves a
few steps:

1.  Mount recovery tape.

2.  IPL DDR on the head of the recovery tape.

3.  Restore the recovery system to disk.

4.  IPL the recovery system from disk and startup the menu-based
recovery system.

The 4 steps above are the most technical part of the process, the
monkey boy simply needs to execute commands and provide responses

Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Huegel, Thomas
We could BEG IBM to add native VTAPE to z/VM ..  even 'lowly VSE' supports 
VTAPEs.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


Hi Aria,

It's weird, sometimes it takes as little as 15 minutes to DDR2CMS a
3390-3 spindle, but most times it takes 45-50 minutes.  But all
spindles are not created equal, so you might have one that has very
little actual data on it (even if it is fully allocated for minidisks,
those minidisks might be substantially empty), and one that is full to
the gills.  Likewise, some data compacts better than others (for example
one spindle contains a bunch of 'zip' files sent to us by PC users,
those files are already well compressed and further compaction isn't
likely).  

Again, if I can't (quickly) find a means to read the disk and write to a
TCPIP stream directly (with a collector on the remote end, of course),
I'll probably replace DDR2CMS with PIPEDDR to create the intermediate
files before transmitting them.

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
Hi Aria,

We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 9393, running 
with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 10 minutes 
on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)

I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The DASD is an
EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.

Aria.


SFS REVOKE AUTH question

2008-06-18 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I am trying to REVOKE AUTH for an SFS user.  The directory, let's call
it VMSYS:MAINT.PUBLIC   has had a GRANT AUTH PUBLIC  done to it earlier.
I have a specific user I do not want to access this directory.  When I
issue the REVOKE AUTH, (specifically:  revoke auth vmsys:maint.public
from steveg) I get  DMSJAU1138E File sharing conflict with a return code
of 70.
The user is not logged on when I issue the command.
Is the PUBLIC authority causing this problem?
Thanks,
Steve


Re: RMSMASTR FSMKIN1100E Error from communication function 24, return

2008-06-18 Thread HOWARD MCCORKLE
Les, 
I removed RMSMASTR from the ICHCONN facility in RACF, use the DFSMS
authorization file and added IUCV ANY to the 2nd level profiles needing
access to VTS tapes via RMSMASTR. 2nd level guests (authorized) connect
to the VTS with no issues now. Thanks ! 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RMSMASTR FSMKIN1100E Error from communication function 24,
return

Has anyone run into the following running a DFSMSRM command from a 
second

level z/vm? and what corrected it?
FSMKIN1100E Error from communication function 24, return code = 15

Situation:
First level z/VM 5.2.0 runs VM:Tape and RMSMASTR connected to a VTS.
2nd level z/VM 5.2.0 just RMSMASTR connected to same VTS.
No problems with first level. 2nd level (VMTEST) in cms mode can run 
commands okay. RMSMASTR appears to initialize (attach then detach tape 
drive without errors) in 2nd level. Is there some sort of virtual ctc 
needed between the 1st and 2nd level?

This is an IUCV error, the 15 indicates an authorization failure.
Do you have IUCV ALLOW in the RMSMASTR directory on the second level
system?   RMSMASTR second level and first level are not aware of each
other nor do they communicate with each other.

In addition, the RMSMASTR directory should probably have:
IUCV *IDENT RESANY BLOBAL REVOKE

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


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Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question

2008-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Unfortunately for you, granting authority to PUBLIC grants it to
everyone who has an id on the system. If the filepool is listed as a
Global Resource, the authority carries over to other systems connected
to your system via APPC. Yes, PUBLIC is the problem.

Your ESM may provide an out. I do not know the abilities of VM:Secure
and RACF in this area. SafeSFS may be another way to control access the
way you are hoping for. Whenever I enroll a new user in our SFS, I tell
them to not grant authority to PUBLIC for any files or subdirectories
that they would not want posted on the web or printed in the Enquirer.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:23 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: SFS REVOKE AUTH question
 
 I am trying to REVOKE AUTH for an SFS user.  The directory, let's call
 it VMSYS:MAINT.PUBLIC   has had a GRANT AUTH PUBLIC  done to 
 it earlier.
 I have a specific user I do not want to access this 
 directory.  When I issue the REVOKE AUTH, (specifically:  
 revoke auth vmsys:maint.public from steveg) I get  
 DMSJAU1138E File sharing conflict with a return code of 70.
 The user is not logged on when I issue the command.
 Is the PUBLIC authority causing this problem?
 Thanks,
 Steve
 


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Coffin
VTAPE is a Virtual Software Systems, Inc. (VSSI) commercial product and
already runs on VM.  It wouldn't help in this case, because all VTAPE
does is redirect TAPE I/O to a local file, you'd still have to take that
really big file and FTP it.  Now if VTAPE could redirect TAPE I/O to a
remote location somehow (i.e. open a TCPIP socket pointed to a Linux
server running a little VTAPE client to accept the data and write it to
a file) THAT would be sweet (and I'd bet you there is a market for such
a product Hint hint).  :)

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


We could BEG IBM to add native VTAPE to z/VM ..  even 'lowly VSE'
supports VTAPEs.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


Hi Aria,

It's weird, sometimes it takes as little as 15 minutes to DDR2CMS a
3390-3 spindle, but most times it takes 45-50 minutes.  But all
spindles are not created equal, so you might have one that has very
little actual data on it (even if it is fully allocated for minidisks,
those minidisks might be substantially empty), and one that is full to
the gills.  Likewise, some data compacts better than others (for example
one spindle contains a bunch of 'zip' files sent to us by PC users,
those files are already well compressed and further compaction isn't
likely).  

Again, if I can't (quickly) find a means to read the disk and write to a
TCPIP stream directly (with a collector on the remote end, of course),
I'll probably replace DDR2CMS with PIPEDDR to create the intermediate
files before transmitting them.

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
Hi Aria,

We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 9393, running
with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 10 minutes 
on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)

I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The DASD is an
EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.

Aria.


Re: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor

2008-06-18 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Eginhard, that did the trick.

 Eginhard Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/18/2008 6:36 AM 
Both the 'FC AUTOREFR ON' and the 'FCONAPPC' command can be either included in 
the FCONX $PROFILE, or you can append the commands to the PerfKit invocation as 
follows: 'perfkit fc autorefr on;fconappc;' . 
 
Eginhard


- Original Message - 
From: Howard Rifkind ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor

Eginhard, 
 
Thanks for the information below...works as advertised.
 
One further questions, is there any way that the 'FC AUTOREFR ON'  command and 
the 'FCONAPPC' can be automated?
 
We would like to have this automatically done to avoid operator intervention.
 
Thanks.


 Eginhard Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2008 6:06 AM 
Sure, the Performance Toolkit uses local APPC/VM connections to allow 
performance data retrieval from any number of other virtual machines on the 
same system. 
I believe the original setup for PERFSVM will automatically activate the 
APPC/VM data retrieval interface, and it uses the APPC/VM resource ID 
'FCXRES00' that the FCONAPPC command expects to connect to by default. If you 
already use the Web interface then APPC/VM connections are certainly activated, 
too.
 
But before trying to use the interface you'll have to authorize any additional 
users for data retrieval by including them in the 'FCONRMT AUTHORIZ' file (see 
'Performance Toolkit Guide' pages 12/13). 
 
You then just need an additional CMS machine to
- log on to the second screen
- start PerfKit there *without* performance data collection
  (give it a dummy FCONX $PROFILE, or make sure the
  'FC MONCOLL ON' statement is commented out)
- then start a performance data retrieval session with the command
  'FCONAPPC'
 
If the intention is to let a specific performance screen be permanently 
displayed and also automatically refreshed then enter also the command 'FC 
AUTOREFR ON' in the client machine *before* activating the data retrieval 
session with the 'FCONAPPC' command.
 
Eginhard Jaeger


- Original Message - 
From: Howard Rifkind ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Second Physical Screen for Performance Monitor

Off the top of the lists hat would anyone know if you can connect a second 
physical monitor for z/VM.
 
I would like to have one in the computer room and one in the Systems 
Programmers area.
 
I know you can have a web interface to the monitor but that isn't way the 
manager wants.
 
Thanks.




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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
I think the reference was to a VTS unit. Is emulated tapes are called
VTAPEs, I believe. Either Rick did not trademark VTAPE or he gave IBM
permission to use it.  (Or he is going to file suit as a result of this
note :-) ).

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Coffin
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:54 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location
 
 VTAPE is a Virtual Software Systems, Inc. (VSSI) commercial 
 product and already runs on VM.  It wouldn't help in this 
 case, because all VTAPE does is redirect TAPE I/O to a local 
 file, you'd still have to take that really big file and FTP 
 it.  Now if VTAPE could redirect TAPE I/O to a remote 
 location somehow (i.e. open a TCPIP socket pointed to a 
 Linux server running a little VTAPE client to accept the data 
 and write it to a file) THAT would be sweet (and I'd bet you 
 there is a market for such a product Hint hint).  :)
 
 -Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:25 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location
 
 
 We could BEG IBM to add native VTAPE to z/VM ..  even 'lowly VSE'
 supports VTAPEs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Michael Coffin
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:01 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location
 
 
 Hi Aria,
 
 It's weird, sometimes it takes as little as 15 minutes to DDR2CMS a
 3390-3 spindle, but most times it takes 45-50 minutes.  But 
 all spindles are not created equal, so you might have one 
 that has very little actual data on it (even if it is fully 
 allocated for minidisks, those minidisks might be 
 substantially empty), and one that is full to the gills.  
 Likewise, some data compacts better than others (for example 
 one spindle contains a bunch of 'zip' files sent to us by PC 
 users, those files are already well compressed and further 
 compaction isn't likely).  
 
 Again, if I can't (quickly) find a means to read the disk and 
 write to a TCPIP stream directly (with a collector on the 
 remote end, of course), I'll probably replace DDR2CMS with 
 PIPEDDR to create the intermediate files before transmitting them.
 
 -Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:44 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location
 
 
 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
 Hi Aria,
 
 We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 
 9393, running 
 with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 
 10 minutes 
 on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)
 
 I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The 
 DASD is an EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.
 
 Aria.
 


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Adam Thornton

On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Michael Coffin wrote:


Hi Tom,

Holy Cow!  A 3 MONTH recovery window?!?!?  I don't think I've ever  
come
across such a generous recovery window, most companies would be  
out of

business in 3 months without access to their mission-critical systems.
:)

On another note, has anyone ever come across an FTP stage for the CMS
PIPE command?  Someone on the LINUX-390 listserv suggested there might
have been one once upon a time..



Well, in the z/VM installation from, uh, version 5.1 forwards, I  
think, there's the Install From DVD option, which uses an undocumented  
pipe stage to transfer track images and reassemble them.


If you look at the INSTDVD exec you can see how it works.  It's  
undocumented, but it's been stable for a while, so it probably isn't  
going anywhere, but at your own risk, etc.


Adam


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Edward M. Martin
VSE has VTAPE now.

CA has CDTAPE that works with z/VM now.

   Copyright Computer Associates International, Inc. 2003
 
CDTAPE simulates the CMS TAPE and VMFPLC2 commands allowing you to   
run various software installation procedures like AIM or CIS using   
tape image files instead of real tape volumes. Tape image files can  
reside in CMS or on your TCP/IP connected workstation. You indicate  
which location CDTAPE is to use by means of the CDTAPE START command.

I would think that IBM could to it right now too.

Ed Martin
330-588-4723
ext 40441

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Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:54 AM
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Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

VTAPE is a Virtual Software Systems, Inc. (VSSI) commercial product and
already runs on VM.  It wouldn't help in this case, because all VTAPE
does is redirect TAPE I/O to a local file, you'd still have to take that
really big file and FTP it.  Now if VTAPE could redirect TAPE I/O to a
remote location somehow (i.e. open a TCPIP socket pointed to a Linux
server running a little VTAPE client to accept the data and write it to
a file) THAT would be sweet (and I'd bet you there is a market for such
a product Hint hint).  :)

-Mike

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Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:25 AM
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We could BEG IBM to add native VTAPE to z/VM ..  even 'lowly VSE'
supports VTAPEs.

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Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


Hi Aria,

It's weird, sometimes it takes as little as 15 minutes to DDR2CMS a
3390-3 spindle, but most times it takes 45-50 minutes.  But all
spindles are not created equal, so you might have one that has very
little actual data on it (even if it is fully allocated for minidisks,
those minidisks might be substantially empty), and one that is full to
the gills.  Likewise, some data compacts better than others (for example
one spindle contains a bunch of 'zip' files sent to us by PC users,
those files are already well compressed and further compaction isn't
likely).  

Again, if I can't (quickly) find a means to read the disk and write to a
TCPIP stream directly (with a collector on the remote end, of course),
I'll probably replace DDR2CMS with PIPEDDR to create the intermediate
files before transmitting them.

-Mike

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
Hi Aria,

We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 9393, running
with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 10 minutes 
on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)

I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The DASD is an
EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.

Aria.


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Huegel, Thomas
That is excatally what it can do in VSE.. Point the output to an IP address 
where the client is running (there is LINUX, WINDOZE, UNIX, etc. versions) and 
run your VSE job to either read or write the tape input/output to the remote 
VTAPE server.. So simple and I can't believe IBM developed it. But why not in 
z/VM?  

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:54 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


VTAPE is a Virtual Software Systems, Inc. (VSSI) commercial product and
already runs on VM.  It wouldn't help in this case, because all VTAPE
does is redirect TAPE I/O to a local file, you'd still have to take that
really big file and FTP it.  Now if VTAPE could redirect TAPE I/O to a
remote location somehow (i.e. open a TCPIP socket pointed to a Linux
server running a little VTAPE client to accept the data and write it to
a file) THAT would be sweet (and I'd bet you there is a market for such
a product Hint hint).  :)

-Mike

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


We could BEG IBM to add native VTAPE to z/VM ..  even 'lowly VSE'
supports VTAPEs.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Coffin
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


Hi Aria,

It's weird, sometimes it takes as little as 15 minutes to DDR2CMS a
3390-3 spindle, but most times it takes 45-50 minutes.  But all
spindles are not created equal, so you might have one that has very
little actual data on it (even if it is fully allocated for minidisks,
those minidisks might be substantially empty), and one that is full to
the gills.  Likewise, some data compacts better than others (for example
one spindle contains a bunch of 'zip' files sent to us by PC users,
those files are already well compressed and further compaction isn't
likely).  

Again, if I can't (quickly) find a means to read the disk and write to a
TCPIP stream directly (with a collector on the remote end, of course),
I'll probably replace DDR2CMS with PIPEDDR to create the intermediate
files before transmitting them.

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Aria Bamdad
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:37 -0400 Michael Coffin said:
Hi Aria,

We are on an IBM 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels to an IBM 9393, running
with a full system load.  It would probably only take about 10 minutes 
on a big z9 (or z10) box, lightly loaded with FICON channels. :)

I wish!!! I am on a 2066-0B1 with ESCON channels also.  The DASD is an
EMC 8430 with lots of cache however.

Aria.


Dirmaint Start Up Problem.

2008-06-18 Thread Howard Rifkind
When I log on to the Dirmaint user id and the system executes profiles and what 
not, I'm getting the following error.
 
It seems that the 192 disk (with is a link to 5vmdir30's 492 disk) is being 
detached by something in the system.
 
When I issue the 'DVHBEGIN' command the system is telling me that the DVHUPDIR 
module can't be found.
 
That's because this module exists on the 192 disk which should be linked but is 
becoming  detached.
 
This is sort of a new installation.  I'm doing my testing second level and I 
did DDR's on tape from the first level system then back to the second level 
system.
 
I DDR'ed the following users minidisks:
 
5VMDIR30
DIRMAINT
DATAMOVE
DATASAT
 
The DDR's didn't have any errors and I believe I did copy over all the 
minidisks involved.  The DIRMAINT system came packaged on first level.
 
The directory entries for these users are the same in both the first and second 
level system and contain all the same link statements.
 
Any ideas how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.
 
Thanks
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Re: Bogus CPU utilization numbers from Linux Red Hat 4.6

2008-06-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
Oh, and the fixed numbers from later releases are bogus as well...
As it turns out, Linux folks from discrete world don't really care for
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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Ed,

Something I have done in the past is to use DoctorD in VSE which has a feature 
to create standalone DDR'ish backups of VM volumes.. That way they are labeled 
and in the EPIC catalog too.
It worked fine in DR tests, back when we used real tapes.

Tom


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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


 That is excatally what it can do in VSE.. Point the
 output to an IP address where the client is running
 (there is LINUX, WINDOZE, UNIX, etc. versions) and run
 your VSE job to either read or write the tape input/output
 to the remote VTAPE server.. So simple and I can't believe
 IBM developed it. But why not in z/VM?  


I have used the VSE VTAPE over TCPIP and with VSAM.  In our
case, VSAM performs MUCH better.  It was explained to me
that our FLEX box doesn't have the same throughput over the
network that a shiny new Z box with OSA would have.

It would be great to have VTAPE in VM natively. Of course, I
am  spoiled as we have had FAKETAPE with FLEX since 2001.
We still do CMS backups to FAKETAPE using VMFPLC2.  Then we
run a VSE job to copy the non-labeled FAKETAPE to a cataloged
tape that VSE DYNAM knows about.  That way we can have our CMS
backups in the same catalog as our VSE stuff.

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Re: Dirmaint Start Up Problem.

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Walter
 Any ideas how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.
Well, for starters: pasting the messages you see on DIRMAINT when you 
logon and the PROFILE EXEC runs would be a good place to start.
As I tell some end users: No message, no problem.  Be happy!.

 being detached by something in the system.
Without the messages, it's hard to say what and why it might be detached. 
But the LINK not being authorized might be a good place to start looking.

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When I log on to the Dirmaint user id and the system executes profiles and 
what not, I'm getting the following error.
 
It seems that the 192 disk (with is a link to 5vmdir30's 492 disk) is 
being detached by something in the system.
 
When I issue the 'DVHBEGIN' command the system is telling me that the 
DVHUPDIR module can't be found.
 
That's because this module exists on the 192 disk which should be linked 
but is becoming  detached.
 
This is sort of a new installation.  I'm doing my testing second level and 
I did DDR's on tape from the first level system then back to the second 
level system.
 
I DDR'ed the following users minidisks:
 
5VMDIR30
DIRMAINT
DATAMOVE
DATASAT
 
The DDR's didn't have any errors and I believe I did copy over all the 
minidisks involved.  The DIRMAINT system came packaged on first level.
 
The directory entries for these users are the same in both the first and 
second level system and contain all the same link statements.
 
Any ideas how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.
 
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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread David Boyes
 3 months was chosen back in the early '80s.
 This is local government.

As Mel Brooks would say: It's good to be the king!


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, Adam is quite correct, the new install procedures for z/VM (at least
for the past couple of releases) does employ an undocumented FTP PIPE
stage. I don't know if the put command is implemented, but the get
command is there.

Since the FTP stage is a bit of IBM programming, I can't send it out to
external sites; you'll have to license z/vM to get a copy. I have
requested, informally, the IBM Endicott document this stage, but so far, no
luck.

DJ

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:00:08 -0500
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Michael Coffin wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Holy Cow!  A 3 MONTH recovery window?!?!?  I don't think I've ever  
 come
 across such a generous recovery window, most companies would be  
 out of
 business in 3 months without access to their mission-critical systems.
 :)

 On another note, has anyone ever come across an FTP stage for the CMS
 PIPE command?  Someone on the LINUX-390 listserv suggested there might
 have been one once upon a time..


Well, in the z/VM installation from, uh, version 5.1 forwards, I  
think, there's the Install From DVD option, which uses an undocumented  
pipe stage to transfer track images and reassemble them.

If you look at the INSTDVD exec you can see how it works.  It's  
undocumented, but it's been stable for a while, so it probably isn't  
going anywhere, but at your own risk, etc.

Adam



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FCXLON679E Unable to authenticate user uuuuu from 10.54.11.28:04192

2008-06-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

Does anyone know if the requirement for the web login screen for the
Performance Toolkit to improve handling of users with expired passwords
has been raised?

If you have a user who has been defined to RACF but the password has
expired they cannot login through the web interface to Performance
Toolkit.  They get FCXLON679E Unable to authenticate user u from
10.54.11.28:04192

This does not tell you your password is expired or give the opportunity
to enter a new password.  I was able to have them login through VM/CMS
and once they changed the password it worked fine.  It would have been
nice to at least get a better message.  Ideally they could have changed
the expired password through the web interface.

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Norbert Alfred Müller
Hi Michael, 
we use as DR a VTL from BusTech, the MAS.  So, we have FICON attached a MAS, 
and we write our tapes in normal
open systems disks. Then, the reseller here in Germany, mainstorconcept, 
installed also a replication module over IP and now we have all the virtual 
tapes in a second 
DR location. In relative short time  we have all our DDR's in the another 
location. And also encrypted.
For us is also interesting, that the tapes are stored in linux  in AWSTAPE 
format. We replace our old DR solution from CMSDDR  FTP with this hardware.
best regards,
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Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question

2008-06-18 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Thanks for the reply.  VM:Secure has a revoke command. If I understand
the doc correctly, it takes the command and issues it to VM, almost
verbatim.
I do get the same error message when I issue the vmsecure revoke.
Looks like it's time for Plan B (whatever that is).
Steve


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Subject: Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question

Unfortunately for you, granting authority to PUBLIC grants it to
everyone who has an id on the system. If the filepool is listed as a
Global Resource, the authority carries over to other systems connected
to your system via APPC. Yes, PUBLIC is the problem.

Your ESM may provide an out. I do not know the abilities of VM:Secure
and RACF in this area. SafeSFS may be another way to control access the
way you are hoping for. Whenever I enroll a new user in our SFS, I tell
them to not grant authority to PUBLIC for any files or subdirectories
that they would not want posted on the web or printed in the Enquirer.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:23 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: SFS REVOKE AUTH question
 
 I am trying to REVOKE AUTH for an SFS user.  The directory, let's call
 it VMSYS:MAINT.PUBLIC   has had a GRANT AUTH PUBLIC  done to 
 it earlier.
 I have a specific user I do not want to access this 
 directory.  When I issue the REVOKE AUTH, (specifically:  
 revoke auth vmsys:maint.public from steveg) I get  
 DMSJAU1138E File sharing conflict with a return code of 70.
 The user is not logged on when I issue the command.
 Is the PUBLIC authority causing this problem?
 Thanks,
 Steve
 


Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Coffin
Well ain't this a kick in the pants!  Yes indeed, BOTH the FTPPUT and
FTPGET stages are defined (on z/VM 5.3).

::START_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::

It's so hard to get IBM to enhance ANYTHING in CMS these days, here
they've gone and invested precious development dollars in a PIPE stage
that would be a HUGE help to existing VM/CMS customers, and they don't
bother to document it and, when asked to, they STILL don't?!?!?  I've
been spending countless hours trying to reinvent a wheel which IBM has
already invented, and which we are already licensed to use - EXTREMELY
ANNOYING!

Come on IBM, can you please document this lovely PIPE stage THAT YOU'VE
ALREADY DEVELOPED so that we can exploit it?!?!  It's not like we're
asking you to develop something from scratch, just spend an hour
documenting WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED!!!

::END_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::

So, if I can decipher the parms for the FTP stages all I really need to
do now is:

PIPE TRACKREAD
| TRACKSQUISH
| FTPPUT (FTP_parms to be deciphered)

There may be some other intermediate stages (BLOCK 1024, etc.) that need
to go in as well, I'll take a look at how Bruce Hayden already addressed
this in PIPEDDR and just change the output stage to FTPPUT (assuming I
can either decipher the correct parms, or if some kind soul from IBM
could forward a tiny little README on this officially or otherwise I'd
be in your debt!).

The nice thing is I can also integrate FTPGET into the recovery process
which will speed things up nicely as well.

Thanks Adam and David for steering me in the right direction.  FWIW,
there is an example of PIPE FTPGET in INSTLBMD EXEC - so that might
provide a clue as to what parms are required and/or supported.

-Mike

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Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


Yes, Adam is quite correct, the new install procedures for z/VM (at
least for the past couple of releases) does employ an undocumented FTP
PIPE stage. I don't know if the put command is implemented, but the
get command is there.

Since the FTP stage is a bit of IBM programming, I can't send it out to
external sites; you'll have to license z/vM to get a copy. I have
requested, informally, the IBM Endicott document this stage, but so far,
no luck.

DJ

Original Message:
-
From: Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:00:08 -0500
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location


On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Michael Coffin wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Holy Cow!  A 3 MONTH recovery window?!?!?  I don't think I've ever
 come
 across such a generous recovery window, most companies would be  
 out of
 business in 3 months without access to their mission-critical systems.
 :)

 On another note, has anyone ever come across an FTP stage for the CMS 
 PIPE command?  Someone on the LINUX-390 listserv suggested there might

 have been one once upon a time..


Well, in the z/VM installation from, uh, version 5.1 forwards, I  
think, there's the Install From DVD option, which uses an undocumented  
pipe stage to transfer track images and reassemble them.

If you look at the INSTDVD exec you can see how it works.  It's  
undocumented, but it's been stable for a while, so it probably isn't  
going anywhere, but at your own risk, etc.

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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Coffin
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:49 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location
 
 Well ain't this a kick in the pants!  Yes indeed, BOTH the FTPPUT and
 FTPGET stages are defined (on z/VM 5.3).
 
 ::START_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::
 
 It's so hard to get IBM to enhance ANYTHING in CMS these days, here
 they've gone and invested precious development dollars in a PIPE stage
 that would be a HUGE help to existing VM/CMS customers, and they don't
 bother to document it and, when asked to, they STILL don't?!?!?  I've
 been spending countless hours trying to reinvent a wheel 
 which IBM has
 already invented, and which we are already licensed to use - EXTREMELY
 ANNOYING!
 
 Come on IBM, can you please document this lovely PIPE stage 
 THAT YOU'VE
 ALREADY DEVELOPED so that we can exploit it?!?!  It's not like we're
 asking you to develop something from scratch, just spend an hour
 documenting WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED!!!
 
 ::END_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::
 

If this is like some things in z/OS, the response from IBM development
will be along the lines of: It is not documented because we don't want
anyone else to use it. We don't want others to use it because if they
do, then we must support it. And if we support it, then we cannot make
arbitrary changes to it to implement what we want, should __our__ needs
change.

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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Rich Smrcina

Do I smell a WAVV requirement?

There may also be a formalized request/requirement mechanism on the z/VM 
web site (there is on the z/VSE web site).


Michael Coffin wrote:

Well ain't this a kick in the pants!  Yes indeed, BOTH the FTPPUT and
FTPGET stages are defined (on z/VM 5.3).

::START_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::

It's so hard to get IBM to enhance ANYTHING in CMS these days, here
they've gone and invested precious development dollars in a PIPE stage
that would be a HUGE help to existing VM/CMS customers, and they don't
bother to document it and, when asked to, they STILL don't?!?!?  I've
been spending countless hours trying to reinvent a wheel which IBM has
already invented, and which we are already licensed to use - EXTREMELY
ANNOYING!

Come on IBM, can you please document this lovely PIPE stage THAT YOU'VE
ALREADY DEVELOPED so that we can exploit it?!?!  It's not like we're
asking you to develop something from scratch, just spend an hour
documenting WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED!!!

::END_CUSTOMER_GRIPE::

So, if I can decipher the parms for the FTP stages all I really need to
do now is:

PIPE TRACKREAD
| TRACKSQUISH
| FTPPUT (FTP_parms to be deciphered)

There may be some other intermediate stages (BLOCK 1024, etc.) that need
to go in as well, I'll take a look at how Bruce Hayden already addressed
this in PIPEDDR and just change the output stage to FTPPUT (assuming I
can either decipher the correct parms, or if some kind soul from IBM
could forward a tiny little README on this officially or otherwise I'd
be in your debt!).

The nice thing is I can also integrate FTPGET into the recovery process
which will speed things up nicely as well.

Thanks Adam and David for steering me in the right direction.  FWIW,
there is an example of PIPE FTPGET in INSTLBMD EXEC - so that might
provide a clue as to what parms are required and/or supported.

-Mike

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Yes, Adam is quite correct, the new install procedures for z/VM (at
least for the past couple of releases) does employ an undocumented FTP
PIPE stage. I don't know if the put command is implemented, but the
get command is there.

Since the FTP stage is a bit of IBM programming, I can't send it out to
external sites; you'll have to license z/vM to get a copy. I have
requested, informally, the IBM Endicott document this stage, but so far,
no luck.

DJ


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Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Bruce Hayden
Dirmaint has a programming interface for synchronous communication.
See Appendix D of the Directory Maintenance Facility Commands
Reference manual for more information on it.  It uses WAKEUP under
the covers to wait for the response from the DIRMAINT service machine.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Patrick Spinler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1


 Hi:

 Although I've done a bit of maintenance on our company's VM systems, I'm
 a raw, brand spanking new VM script writer, so forgive me if I'm missing
 the obvious.  I'm sure I'll have many d'oh! moments.

 I'd like to write some code to fetch dirmaint's disk allocation maps
 (dirmaint dirmap and possibly dirmaint send extent control) and perform
 some analysis on it.  Specifically asking questions like how much free
 dasd we have in various volume groups, how fragmented our dasd
 allocation is, and the like.

 My question is how may I, in a rexx exec, know when the results of a
 dirmaint command like dirmap are complete, if it failed, when any result
 is available in my reader, and what reader file# to receive?

 Thanks, and apologies for the beginner question.

 - -- Pat


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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Ed Zell
 Something I have done in the past is to use DoctorD in
 VSE which has a feature to create standalone DDR'ish
 backups of VM volumes.. That way they are labeled and
 in the EPIC catalog too. It worked fine in DR tests,
 back when we used real tapes.


Tom,

  We also have Doctor D on VSE, and I vaguely recall reading
  about that feature.  Sounds like a good project for a rainy
  day!  Thanks for pointing that out.

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Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Pat--You should also look at the CMS DIRMAP program.  I usually use it 
with the USER BACKUP file that DIRMAINT puts on it's 1DB disk so it's 
what the system looked last night or whenever you have it generated.  If 
I want an up-to-the-minute file, I do a DIRM USER BACKUP and then run 
DIRMAP.  I think it will provide you with the information you want 
without having to figure out how to cope with the asynchronous output 
from the DIRMAINT DIRMAP command.


Jim

Bruce Hayden wrote:

Dirmaint has a programming interface for synchronous communication.
See Appendix D of the Directory Maintenance Facility Commands
Reference manual for more information on it.  It uses WAKEUP under
the covers to wait for the response from the DIRMAINT service machine.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Patrick Spinler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

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Hash: SHA1


Hi:

Although I've done a bit of maintenance on our company's VM systems, I'm
a raw, brand spanking new VM script writer, so forgive me if I'm missing
the obvious.  I'm sure I'll have many d'oh! moments.

I'd like to write some code to fetch dirmaint's disk allocation maps
(dirmaint dirmap and possibly dirmaint send extent control) and perform
some analysis on it.  Specifically asking questions like how much free
dasd we have in various volume groups, how fragmented our dasd
allocation is, and the like.

My question is how may I, in a rexx exec, know when the results of a
dirmaint command like dirmap are complete, if it failed, when any result
is available in my reader, and what reader file# to receive?

Thanks, and apologies for the beginner question.

- -- Pat




  


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Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question

2008-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
From what I have heard, I have no direct experience with it, all
VM:Secure does is act as a file pool administrator using the built-in
SFS commands; it does not add any functionality. Your experience tends
to support that. There may be other commands, but if there are, I am not
familiar with them.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:00 AM
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 Subject: Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question
 
 Thanks for the reply.  VM:Secure has a revoke command. If I 
 understand the doc correctly, it takes the command and issues 
 it to VM, almost verbatim.
 I do get the same error message when I issue the vmsecure revoke.
 Looks like it's time for Plan B (whatever that is).
 Steve
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:53 AM
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 Subject: Re: SFS REVOKE AUTH question
 
 Unfortunately for you, granting authority to PUBLIC grants it 
 to everyone who has an id on the system. If the filepool is 
 listed as a Global Resource, the authority carries over to 
 other systems connected to your system via APPC. Yes, PUBLIC 
 is the problem.
 
 Your ESM may provide an out. I do not know the abilities of 
 VM:Secure and RACF in this area. SafeSFS may be another way 
 to control access the way you are hoping for. Whenever I 
 enroll a new user in our SFS, I tell them to not grant 
 authority to PUBLIC for any files or subdirectories that they 
 would not want posted on the web or printed in the Enquirer.  
 
 Regards,
 Richard Schuh 
 
  
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:23 AM
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  Subject: SFS REVOKE AUTH question
  
  I am trying to REVOKE AUTH for an SFS user.  The directory, 
 let's call
  it VMSYS:MAINT.PUBLIC   has had a GRANT AUTH PUBLIC  done to 
  it earlier.
  I have a specific user I do not want to access this 
 directory.  When I 
  issue the REVOKE AUTH, (specifically:
  revoke auth vmsys:maint.public from steveg) I get DMSJAU1138E File 
  sharing conflict with a return code of 70.
  The user is not logged on when I issue the command.
  Is the PUBLIC authority causing this problem?
  Thanks,
  Steve
  
 


Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:06:30PM -0400,Jim Bohnsack Wrote:

} Pat--You should also look at the CMS DIRMAP program.  I usually use it 
} with the USER BACKUP file that DIRMAINT puts on it's 1DB disk so it's 
} what the system looked last night or whenever you have it generated.  If 
} I want an up-to-the-minute file, I do a DIRM USER BACKUP and then run 
} DIRMAP.  I think it will provide you with the information you want 
} without having to figure out how to cope with the asynchronous output 
} from the DIRMAINT DIRMAP command.

Good idea except that DIRMAP has one design flaw.  It does not show gaps
if they are at the end of the volume,  and that is oftem where the most
interesting gaps lie.  My fix is to run the DIRMAP, and post process
it with an xedit macro called GAPMAP which follows.  I also have an exec
DMAP and another macro which together with GAPMAP do the whole mapping job. 
QUERY DASD DETAILS is used to find the actual number of cyls.  I am reluctant
to post DMAP because its fairly large and contains some bits which are
specific to my last job.  I will send it off list on request along with
FIXMAP (the other macro).

/*
  GAPMAP
  This macro will fix up the o/p of DISKMAP by:
 1) Checking the end cyl of the last line for each volume
against the actual size of the volume and adding in a
GAP if needed.
 2) Adding in the VOLSER on each GAP line.
*/

false = (1=0)
true  = (1=1)
Trace O

/*
  If MSGMODE is on, turn it off (and restore later) to
  suppress the 'Target not found at the end.
*/
'EXTRACT /MSGMODE/LINE/'
start_line = line.1
'SET MSGMODE OFF'
'SET WRAP OFF'
'SET CASE MIXED RESPECT'

/*
  Phase 1:
  For each volume, add a gap at the end if needed.
*/
'TOP'
vsn = ''
do forever
   'FIND VOLUME'  /* Next volume. */
   if rc ^= 0
  then leave
   'NFIND __' /* Get   */
   'EXTRACT /CURLINE/'/*  the  */
   vsn = translate(left(curline.3,6)) /*volser.*/
   parse value diagrc(8,'QUERY DASD' vsn, 80) with cp_rc . . cuu err '15'x
   if cp_rc ^= 0 | err = 'was not found.'  /* Error?   */
  then iterate/* Yes, ignore this vol. */
   parse value diagrc(8,'QUERY DASD DETAILS' cuu) with cp_rc . ,
  'CYLS =' ncyl '15'x
   if cp_rc ^= 0  /* Error?*/
  then iterate/* Yes, ignore this vol. */
   ncyl = strip(ncyl, 'L')/* Drop leading blanks.  */
   'FIND ___'
  /* Locate next blank.*/
   if rc ^= 0 /* Error?*/
  then iterate/* Yes, ignore this vol. */
   '-1'   /* Up one.   */
   'EXTRACT /CURLINE/'/* Get last non-blank line.  */
   ecyl = word(substr(curline.3,9),5) /* Ending cyl of last MDISK.*/
   if ecyl = ncyl-1  /* Does it end on last cylinder? */
  then iterate/* Its OK, try next volume.  */
   scyl = right(ecyl + 1,8)
   ecyl = right(ncyl - 1,8)
   qcyl = right(ncyl - scyl,8)
   'INPUT' copies(' ',33) scyl ecyl qcyl '   GAP'
end

/*
  Phase 2:
  Scan the file, picking up each volser as I come to it,
  and overlaying it (lower cased) on each GAP line.
*/
':1' /* Start 1 down to avoid the timestamp. */
vsn = ''
do forever
   '+1'
   if rc ^= 0
  then leave
   'EXTRACT /CURLINE/'
   temp = left(curline.3,6)
   select
  when curline.3 = ''
 then iterate
  when temp = ''
 then nop
  when temp = '--'
 then iterate
  when temp = 'VOLUME'
 then do
 'EXTRACT /LINE/'
 'NFIND __'
 'EXTRACT /CURLINE/'
 vsn = left(curline.3,6)
 vsn = translate(vsn,'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz', ,
 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ')
 ':'line.1
 iterate
 end
  otherwise
 nop
   end
   if word(curline.3,words(curline.3)) = 'GAP'
  then do
   if vsn = old_vsn
  then do
   'EXTRACT /LINE/'
   'FINDUP' vsn
   'OVERLAY   *'
   ':'line.1
   'OVERLAY' vsn'*'
   end
  else do
   'OVERLAY' vsn
   old_vsn = vsn
   end
   end
end

/*
  All done with GAPMAP processing.
  If I have been called from an exec, push a FILE.
  If I am interactive, just restore the MSGMODE, and exit.
  Make a guess at this by checking if the TERMINAL is in
  TYPEWRITER or DISPLAY mode.
  This works because an exec would (normally) call XEDIT
  with the NOSCREEN option.
*/
'EXTRACT 

Who Has the Longest Running VM System?

2008-06-18 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
We have a VM 2.3 system that was last IPL'ed on August 17, 2003.  Anybody have 
one that was last IPL'ed before then?

q cplevel   
VM/ESA Version 2 Release 3.0, service level 0101
Generated at 03/11/02 17:44:14 EDT  
IPL at 08/17/03 04:40:50 EDT
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:59:18 

Thank you,
Scott R Wandschneider
Senior Systems Programmer
Infocrossing, a WIPRO Company
11707 Miracle Hills Dr.
Omaha, NE 68154
Office 402.963.8905



 


Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Ed Zell
 Good idea except that DIRMAP has one design flaw.  It does not show
gaps
 if they are at the end of the volume,  and that is oftem where the
most


 Or you could allocate a dummy at the end of each volume (one cylinder
 in user $THE$END or so). It also helps to make DISKMAP alert you when
 you miscounted the last disk and extended it onto the gravel.


We only have DISKMAP available to us and that's what we do to.  Just put
a 1 cyl disk at the end and it makes it much easier to see all your
gaps.

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Re: Who Has the Longest Running VM System?

2008-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
We couldn't have survived on the largest system built in 2003. There have been 
just a couple of cpu upgrades since then, not to mention outages for other 
hardware upgrades or moves.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 We have a VM 2.3 system that was last IPL'ed on August 17, 
 2003.  Anybody have one that was last IPL'ed before then?
 
 q cplevel   
 VM/ESA Version 2 Release 3.0, service level 0101
 Generated at 03/11/02 17:44:14 EDT  
 IPL at 08/17/03 04:40:50 EDT
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:59:18 
 
 Thank you,
 Scott R Wandschneider
 Senior Systems Programmer
 Infocrossing, a WIPRO Company
 11707 Miracle Hills Dr.
 Omaha, NE 68154
 Office 402.963.8905
 
 
   
  
 


Re: FCXLON679E Unable to authenticate user uuuuu from 10.54.11.28:04192

2008-06-18 Thread Roger Lunsford
Yes I recently worked with a customer regarding this same issue.  What it
 
comes down to the Perfkit WEB Interface is not designed for this and we 

are a basic user interface.  
My response in the PMR was:
-We do not provide the support for applications to change user passwords 

and there ar eno plans to add this support. 
-To change a password that does not have an associated z/VM user ID you 

must get a SYSADMIN to change it for you (or the shop must have set up 

some self-help automation to handle it).
-However, it looks like in R530 you can do what you are after!!!..check 

this out: 
  Starting in  z/VM 530 we have abillity to set a NOEXPIRED password:  
 
RAC ALTUSER PERF2 PASSWORD(xx) NOEXPIRED 
   
thus when you initially set your password it will not be expired.  
 
and then he can also set   
 

RAC password  user( PERF2 )  nointerval  
   
so the password will not expire in the future.
We are however looking into the Perfkit and return code handling from 

our calls to DMSPASS...so we could possibly change some messages and such
 
in the future, but I do not see us handling password changes/etc for th
e 
aformentioned reasons.
I hope this helps clarify the concern.
Best Regards, Roger Lunsford Perfkit/CP Level2


Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Rich Smrcina

That's what I do to make DISKMAP work properly.

Rob van der Heij wrote:

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Good idea except that DIRMAP has one design flaw.  It does not show gaps
if they are at the end of the volume,  and that is oftem where the most


Or you could allocate a dummy at the end of each volume (one cylinder
in user $THE$END or so).
It also helps to make DISKMAP alert you when you miscounted the last
disk and extended it onto the gravel.

Rob



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Re: Beginning programing question: scripting actions with dirmaint

2008-06-18 Thread Bruce Hayden
Actually, if you create a minidisk that overlays the whole pack,
DIRMAP will ignore it for overlays but show any gap at the end.
Something like this:
USER $DASD$ NOLOG
   MDISK 1C3A 3390  3339 LABEL1

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:06:30PM -0400,Jim Bohnsack Wrote:


 Good idea except that DIRMAP has one design flaw.  It does not show gaps
 if they are at the end of the volume,  and that is oftem where the most
 interesting gaps lie.
 snip



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Re: FCXLON679E Unable to authenticate user uuuuu from 10.54.11.28:04192

2008-06-18 Thread Thomas Kern
I would not expect the Perfkit WEB interface to provide for changing
passwords, but it must provide sufficient information for failures so tha
t
the user knows who to turn to for assistance. Please provide as much erro
r
description as possible.

/Tom Kern


On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:15:52 -0500, Roger Lunsford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Yes I recently worked with a customer regarding this same issue.  What i
t 
comes down to the Perfkit WEB Interface is not designed for this and we 

are a basic user interface.  
My response in the PMR was:
-We do not provide the support for applications to change user passwords
 
and there ar eno plans to add this support. 
-To change a password that does not have an associated z/VM user ID you 

must get a SYSADMIN to change it for you (or the shop must have set up 

some self-help automation to handle it).
-However, it looks like in R530 you can do what you are after!!!..check 

this out: 
  Starting in  z/VM 530 we have abillity to set a NOEXPIRED password: 
  
RAC ALTUSER PERF2 PASSWORD(xx) NOEXPIRED

thus when you initially set your password it will not be expired. 
  
and then he can also set   
 

RAC password  user( PERF2 )  nointerval  
   
so the password will not expire in the future.
We are however looking into the Perfkit and return code handling from 

our calls to DMSPASS...so we could possibly change some messages and suc
h 
in the future, but I do not see us handling password changes/etc for t
he 
aformentioned reasons.
I hope this helps clarify the concern.
Best Regards, Roger Lunsford Perfkit/CP Level2

=
===


Re: FCXLON679E Unable to authenticate user uuuuu from 10.54.11.28:04192

2008-06-18 Thread Roger Lunsford
Thank you Tom (and Sam) for the correspondance.  This is appreciated and 
I 
will ensure your concerns are noted in our internal work stage for this 

issue.  And we are in complete agreement, which is the reason we opened u
p 
the internal work stage for this.we can do a better job in this area!

We all want things to work smoothly and as detailed as possible...keep up
 
the good work/input/etc! 
Best Regards, Roger Lunsford Perfkit  CP Level2 support


Re: Dirmaint Start Up Problem.

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Walter
Howard,

Again, I preface this reply by reminding you that we don't run DIRMAINT 
here.  But I do run SERVICE and PUT2PROD for it. 

I'm wondering if the DASD 0192 DETACHED, and DASD 021F DETACHED might 
be red herrings. 

I don't know why they are detached (the rexx code has been compiled, 
making that more difficult to examine), but checking the DIRMAINT 191 disk 
here, it contains about 258 files, including the DVHUPDIR MODULE 
reported below as missing (rc=28).

Could you check the DIRMAINT 191 disk to see if it has more than just a 
PROFILE EXEC?  What about the source disk from which you DDRed the 
DIRMAINT 191 disk, what does it have (we don't need a complete list). 
Something looks out of whack.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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Mike Directory entries and list below... Thanks.
 
Directory Entries:
 
01264 USER 5VMDIR30  16M 64M EG 
01265  ACCOUNT 1 SYSPROG 
01266  IPL CMS 
01267  MACHINE ESA 
01268  CONSOLE 009 3215 T 
01269  SPOOL 00C 2540 READER * 
01270  SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH A 
01271  SPOOL 00E 1403 A 
01272  LINK MAINT 190 190 RR * CMS system disk 
01273  LINK MAINT 19D 19D RR * help disk 
01274  LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR * Product code disk 
01275  LINK MAINT 51D 51D MR * VMSES/E software inventory disk
01276  LINK MAINT 5E5 5E5 RR * VMSES/E code 
01277  LINK DIRMAINT 1DF 1DF MR * DIRMAINT server disk 
01278  MDISK 2C4 3390 3337 001 530W01  MR 
01279  MDISK 191 3390 0229 009 530W02  MR 
01280  MDISK 2A2 3390 0238 004 530W02  MR 
01281  MDISK 2A6 3390 0242 004 530W02  MR 
01282  MDISK 2B2 3390 0246 013 530W02  MR 
01283  MDISK 2C2 3390 0259 002 530W02  MR 
01284  MDISK 2D2 3390 0261 050 530W02  MR 
01285  MDISK 29D 3390 0311 009 530W02  MR 
01286  MDISK 29E 3390 1795 001 VPWK02  MR READ 
01287  MDISK 2B1 3390 0321 010 530W02  MR 
01288  MDISK 502 3390 0331 009 530W02  MR 
01289  MDISK 491 3390 0340 015 530W02  MR 
01290  MDISK 492 3390 0355 015 530W02  MR 
01291  MDISK 41F 3390 0370 008 530W02  MR ALL 
01292  MDISK 11F 3390 0378 008 530W02  MR ALL 
01293 * 
01294 USER DIRMAINT NOLOG 32M 64M BDG 
01295  IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR 
01296  MACHINE ESA 
01297  ACCOUNT SYSTEM SYSPROG 
01298  D8ONECMD FAIL LOCK 
01299  OPTION CONCEAL DIAG88 D84NOPAS IGNMAXU 
01300  IUCV ANY PRIORITY MSGLIMIT 100 
01301  CONSOLE 009 3215 T 
01302  SPOOL 00C 2540 READER A 
01303  SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH A 
01304  SPOOL 00E 1403 A 
01305  LINK 5VMDIR30 491 191 MR 
01306  LINK 5VMDIR30 492 192 MR 
01307  LINK 5VMDIR30 11F 11F MR 
01308  LINK 5VMDIR30 41F 21F MR 
01309  LINK MAINT 190 190 RR * CMS system disk 
01310  LINK MAINT 19D 19D RR * help disk 
01311  LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR * Product code disk
01312  LINK MAINT 123 123 MW 
01313  MDISK 1AA 3390 0458 009 530W02  MR 
01314  MDISK 1FA 3390 0467 009 530W02  MR 
01315  MDISK 1DE 3390 0476 020 530W02  MR 
01316  MDISK 2AA 3390 0496 009 530W02  MR 
01317  MDISK 155 3390 0505 009 530W02  MR 
01318  MDISK 1DF 3390 0514 009 530W02  MR 
01319  MDISK 1DB 3390 0523 009 530W02  MR 
01320  MDISK 2DF 3390 0532 009 530W02  MR 
01321  MDISK 2DB 3390 0541 009 530W02  MR 
 
Screen Print of startup:
 
LOGON DIRMAINT 
HCPLNM107E MAINT 019D not linked; not in CP directory 
z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, Service Level 0703 (64-bit), 
built on IBM Virtualization Technology 
There is no logmsg data 
FILES: 0014 RDR, 0016 PRT,   NO PUN 
LOGON AT 14:32:26 EDT WEDNESDAY 06/18/08 
DMSACC724I 19E replaces Y (19E) 
DMSACP723I Y (19E) R/O 
z/VM V5.3.02008-01-10 14:57 
DMSWSP100W Shared Y-STAT not available 
 
 
PRODUCT: 
IBM Directory Maintenance Facility for z/VM (DirMaint) 
5741-A05 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1979, 2007. 
Function Level 530 Service Level . 
DMSACC724I 155 replaces A (191) 
DMSACC723I X (01DE) R/W - OS 
 
DVHPRO2008I ROLE = DIRMAINT 
 
 DVHPRO2010I TESTING USE OF MSGNOH ... 
DASD 0192 DETACHED 
DASD 021F DETACHED 
DVHPRO2002A Manual start is required for DIRMAINT.  Enter DVHBEGIN 
DVHPRO2002A when ready to start. 
 
DIRMAINT VMTESTEB - 2008/06/18; T=0.03/0.04 14:32:44
 
dvhbegin 
DVHRLC2102E File not found: DVHUPDIR MODULE; RC= 
DVHRLC2102E 28. File not found: DVHUPDIR MODULE; 
DVHRLC2102E RC= 28. 
DVHBEG2119T Error in CMS command; RC= 2102 
DVHBEG2119T from: EXEC DVHRLDC 
DVHBEG2119T at line 37. 
DIRMAINT VMTESTEB - 2008/06/18(02119); T=0.08/0.10 14:32:48 
*** Query Time 
TIME IS 14:32:48 EDT WEDNESDAY 06/18/08 
CONNECT= 00:00:22 VIRTCPU= 000:00.11 TOTCPU= 000:00.14 
*** Identify 
DIRMAINT AT VMTESTEB VIA *06/18/08 14:32:48 EDT  

Re: Dirmaint Start Up Problem.

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Walter
Howard,

I little more on your 2nd level DIRMAINT test...
I found the uncompiled rexx source for the DVFPROF EXEC in the 5VMDIR30 
disk 02B1.  At line 626, it contains comments, followed by code to do
it:
/*!*
/*! Release and detach non-required disks. *
/*! (A disk is not required if it is linked R/O*
/*! and has not been accessed yet.)*
/*!*

It appears that something is preventing DIRMAINT from getting its R/W link 
to the 192 and 21F disks, and then DVHPROF detaches them.
That's an area of interests, but does not explain why DIRMAINT does not 
find the DVHUPDIR MODULE on its 191 disk.   Answering that should get you 
closer. 

Are you sure that the source system from which you are DDRing these disks 
had a successful PUT2PROD DIRM?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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Re: Dirmaint Start Up Problem.

2008-06-18 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Mike.
 
I'll check into all that you mention here.

 Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/18/2008 5:20 PM 
Howard,

I little more on your 2nd level DIRMAINT test...
I found the uncompiled rexx source for the DVFPROF EXEC in the 5VMDIR30 
disk 02B1.  At line 626, it contains comments, followed by code to do
it:
/*!*
/*! Release and detach non-required disks. *
/*! (A disk is not required if it is linked R/O*
/*! and has not been accessed yet.)*
/*!*

It appears that something is preventing DIRMAINT from getting its R/W link 
to the 192 and 21F disks, and then DVHPROF detaches them.
That's an area of interests, but does not explain why DIRMAINT does not 
find the DVHUPDIR MODULE on its 191 disk.   Answering that should get you 
closer. 

Are you sure that the source system from which you are DDRing these disks 
had a successful PUT2PROD DIRM?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-06-18 Thread Hans Rempel
At my last client we did all the VM backups using FCOPY in VSE since we did
not have a tape management system in VM but we did in VSE. Very easy
technically to do but hard for a VM bigot like me to do. You use what you
have where you have it. The DR procedures would IPL VSE standalone programs
and then use FCOPY to restore the VM system. No DDR just standalone FCOPY.

Hans  

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ed Zell
Sent: June 18, 2008 1:19 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

 Something I have done in the past is to use DoctorD in
 VSE which has a feature to create standalone DDR'ish
 backups of VM volumes.. That way they are labeled and
 in the EPIC catalog too. It worked fine in DR tests,
 back when we used real tapes.


Tom,

  We also have Doctor D on VSE, and I vaguely recall reading
  about that feature.  Sounds like a good project for a rainy
  day!  Thanks for pointing that out.

Ed Zell
Illinois Mutual Life
(309) 636-0107
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