Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
When I installed IPGATE for my new customer (without RACF), at first I found
this in the IPGATE of the remote system:
 CPICOMM  LOGDATA  H1  V 87  Trunc=87 Size=2 Line=1 Col=1 Alt=0

+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+.
* * * Top of File * * *
_SPECIFIC_ERROR:  Privilege class not authorized to set alternate user I
_SPECIFIC_ERROR:  Privilege class not authorized to set alternate user I
* * * End of File * * *
That meant IPGATE missed CP class B (RACF requirements come on top of that).
Maybe you also need to verify the userid mapping:
 IPGATE   USERMAP  H1  V 80  Trunc=80 Size=10 Line=1 Col=1

!...+1+2+3+4+5+...
* * * Top of File * * *
;origin_system  origuser resource locuser
  6  line(s) not displayed ---
*   **not_auth
; VMIFL: allow any user to come in with its own authority
10.132.224.200  **=
* * * End of File * * *
If you'd translate MAINT for example into RMTMAINT, it is logical that a
GRANT TO MAINT will not help the MAINT user from a remote system that comes
in as RMTMAINT.

2010/3/12 Phil Tully tull...@optonline.net

 Bruce,
 I'm still not sure either.

 I did a test today, brought down the node where the SFS server resides,
 re-ipled with a CPLOAD which had  no RACF in it.

 Brought up the sfs server and IPgate, attempted the same connection from
 the second system, still no luck.  Only files and directories with public
 access are allowed.

 Phil


 Bruce Hayden wrote:

 I don't know what is wrong.  I tried it here, creating a filespace
 that doesn't have a userid in the directory, and I could access it via
 IPGATE on a remote system.  You aren't, by chance, using RACF to
 control SFS?  I presume you aren't since you mention PUBLIC
 directories.  Maybe looking at the RACF audit data or maybe even on
 the RACFVM console will give you a clue as to what authorization
 request is failing.

 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net
 wrote:


 According to the racf team here (I don't have access) we have configured
 racf as you said.  BTW:  we do not have a userid calls tools only a
 filespace.

 Here is the RACF output
 VLB2
 ACTIVE CLASSES = DATASET USER GROUP VMMDISK VMRDR VMCMD VMNODE VMBATCH
  VXMBR VMXEVENT

 GENERIC PROFILE CLASSES =  VMBATCH
 GENERIC COMMAND CLASSES =  VMBATCH
 GENLIST CLASSES =  VMBATCH

 Sysv
 ACTIVE CLASSES = DATASET USER GROUP VMMDISK VMRDR VMCMD VMNODE VMBATCH
VXMBR VMXEVENT

 GENERIC PROFILE CLASSES =  VMBATCH
 GENERIC COMMAND CLASSES =  VMBATCH









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Re: Compression support added to VMA

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
The new version looks much nicer too.  Thanks.

I try the ADD process and added a CAL.CMD file to an existing VMARC file,
that I then uploaded to VM:
l qdsk vmarc (ISO
FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME
QDSK VMARCA1 F 80125  3 2010-03-12 09:59:41
Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:07
vmarc list QDSK VMARC A
CAL  CMD  A1. Bytes in=2400, bytes out=   0 ( 0%).
QDSK EXEC A1. Bytes in=7600, bytes out=   0 ( 0%).
Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:19
vmarc unpk QDSK VMARC A
Unexpected error during output. RC=11.
Ready MAINT at AGC (00011); T=0.01/0.01 10:01:25
If the 11 is an FSWRITE retruncode:
 11 FSCB is not marked with a record format of F nor of V

I didn't change the settings (that I just now detected), they still read:
fmode A1, refcm Variable, lrecl 65535, compression LZW; conversion
empty

I don't know how difficult this would be: now when adding files to a VMARC,
one would first need to update the settings (to set the characteristics of
the files to be added).  It would be much better if the File Open dialog
could be changed to include these settings on the Open panel, otherwise
chances are great one will forget to set the right things.


And, very strange: I just re-opened the VMARC file (to which I added this
CAL.CMD file): the CAL.CMD file is not listed, only the original (and only)
CMS file is listed.  With XEDIT, I can easily see that the added file is the
first member in the VMARC (in hex I see the same in my Windows file).

2010/3/11 Kim Goldenberg kgold...@gmail.com

  On 03/11/2010 01:22 PM, Mark Post wrote:

   On 3/11/2010 at 12:59 PM, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net 
 lluc...@homerow.net wrote:


  You can now create and/or update VMARC files on Linux, OS X, and
 Windows.  ASIS and LZW storage methods are currently supported and I'll
 be adding S2 support after SHARE.

 Download the update here:
 http://homerow.net/zvm/vma

 Keep a critical eye open when trying it out and let me know of critters
 or odd behavior.  There's bound to be some...


  When I compile the source I get this:
 make: wx-config: Command not found.

 Where does that command come from?



  The appropriate debug version of libwxgtk; at least that's where it is in
 Ubuntu.

 Kim Goldenberg




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Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
My problem with SERVICE and PUT2PROD is that I don't know what it will do to
*my* system.  For example can one still work with first upgrading CP, then,
maybe days/weeks later, CMS?
Can I install SW on placed I like (not in users like 5684042J or 5654010A)?
And not necessarly in VMSYS, (what often means VMSYS:5654010A.xxx) but in
for example SFSESA:MAINTPP.VTAM420 ?
I know, it can be documented somewhere (PPFs?  other ctrl files?), but I
didn't get any education about this.  In the good old days, there were delta
workshops. This is how I learned about VMSES (in an ITSC workshop) and then
I tried to educate the Belgian VM customers with my own version of delta
workshops.

2010/3/11 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com

 On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 11:11 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
 wrote:
  Not that I mind having it written on the CFx disk, I do not use it on
 any live
  system, but I seem to remember someone on this list, someone from IBM,
 saying
  that the PARM disks were there for our use in customizing the system and
 that
  they would not be violated by IBM. I don't remember who said it, but I
 think
  his initials were A.A.

 The CF1 disk (production) is yours to do with as you please.  CF2 is a
 build disk and belongs to IBM.  CF3 is a copy of your CF1.  You put it
 on the CF1 and it will end up on CF2 and CF3.

 If PUT2PROD doesn't meet your needs, you need to tell us in what way it
 interferes with your ability to service your systems.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
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Friday gift - Perfkit ULOG

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
Those with RTM/ESA experience may just like me have liked the ULOG display:
it listed the user consuming most CPU (by default that was).  If the system
was slow, I displayed it to see who was since how long hogging the CPU.

With PERFKIT, such a report no longer exists. The good news is one can build
something similar.  As I found it so useful yesterday, I decided to share it
here.

Execute the following commands or include them in FCONX $PROFILE (PERFSVM
1CC by default):
FC DEFLOG ULOG DESC User extremes (CPU, I/O, ...)
FC DEFLOG ULOG H1 User extremes (CPU, I/O, ...)
FC DEFLOG ULOG H2 . ---system--- ---User with.
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 12 LEN 6  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 12  NAME %CPU_
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 18 LEN 7  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 52  NAME IO/sec
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 26 LEN 7  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 76  NAME Pag/sec
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 35 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 21 COL 65 NAME Max-%CPU
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 53 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 23 COL 65 NAME Max-IO/s
FC DEFLOG ULOG COL 71 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 24 COL 65 NAME Max-PG/s
And you we find a report like this in section user defined data
USER EXTREMES (CPU, I/O,
...)
 . ---SYSTEM--- ---USER
WITH..
 End Time   %CPU_ IO/SEC PAG/SEC MAX-%CPU  MAX-IO/S
MAX-PG/S
 15:21:00   16.2   42.7  .0   VSEPROD10.8   SQLDSFP2131
  .
 15:22:00   23.4  109.6  .2   VSEPROD18.2   VSEPROD94.7
  .
 15:23:00   38.7  145.4  .6   VSETEST30.9   VSEPROD 239
  .
 15:24:00   31.0  471.3  .1   PPRCMON19.0   PPRCMON 649
  .
 15:25:00   29.7   62.3  .1   VSEPROD22.4   SQLDSFP2155
  .
(this system doesn't page, that explains the  at the end)

Note: the above statements are perfect for a z/VM 5.3, with 1 engine.  If
your system has more engines the MAX users are located farther down in de
CPU report and you will need to change the LINE 21,23, and 24 accordingly.

To test your setup, a simple exec like this one can help you:
/* This exec can be used to define a Perfkit user log in trialerror mode
Written by: Kris Buelens IBM Belgium;  KRIS at VMKBCT01 5 Jul 2006*/

address command
call DEFLOG 'ULOG OFF'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG DESC User extremes (CPU, I/O, ...)'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG H1 User extremes (CPU, I/O, ...)'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG H2 . ---system--- ---User with.'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 12 LEN 6  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 12  NAME %CPU_'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 18 LEN 7  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 52  NAME IO/sec'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 26 LEN 7  COPY SYSSUMLG LAST  COL 76  NAME Pag/sec'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 35 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 21 COL 65 NAME Max-%CPU'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 53 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 23 COL 65 NAME Max-IO/s'
call DEFLOG 'ULOG COL 71 LEN 15 COPY CPU LINE 24 COL 65 NAME Max-PG/s'
exit rc

DefLog:
'PIPE (sep 00) VMC PERFSVM FC DEFLOG' arg(1) '00'x 'CONS'
return


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Question About Read console output under REXX

2010-03-12 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello List,

 

Years ago, We had a REXX program that gove a CMS (query names), or a CP command 
(CP q rdr all) , and next read the output of

this command in my program, for example : If we need look the spool files, my 
program process this, and look how many files had,

or list the users logged in alphabetic order.

Unfortunatelly We lost this samples programs, so, someone have anything like 
this ?

 

Thanks very much.

 

Sergio Lima Costa

System Programmer

GRV Solutions

Sao Paulo - Brazil
  
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Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Philip Tully
All userids on all systems are the same, so my 

IPGATE USERMAP is
* * * Top of File * * * 
 
;origin_system  origuser resource locuser
;23456789012345 12345678 12345678 12345678   
;VLB1.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.1.40.14  ***  
;VLB2.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.1.40.15  ***  
;VML1.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.128.51   ***  
;VML2.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.132.10   ***  
;VML3.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.128.52   ***  
;VML4.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.128.35   ***  
;VMLX.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.132.6***  
;SYSV.MF.ADP.COM   
  
10.175.128.32   ***  
* * * End of File * * * 
 
the Only resource I am attempting to share at the moment is the SFS serve
r 
sysvsfse
IPGATE Resource file looks like the following: (comments removed for
compactness)
**
 
 
SYSVSFSE   SYSVESYSTEM   4567 10.175.128.32 

When I bring up the SFS server the Q Resource shows 
Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: Global  Owning Userid: VMSERVE 
Then when I bring up the IPGATE server Q Resource looks like
Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: Global  Owning Userid: VMSERVE  
Resource: XC_   Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE   
On the second system I am using the identical IPGATE resource and usermap

files: and a Q Resource appears as :
Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE   
Resource: XC_   Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE   


I have changed the specification in the resource file from SYSTEM to GLob
al
with no change.


Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
This is the first time (in quite some time) that I've had a Daylight
Saving Time (Spring Forward).  Last year we did a Fall Backward by
shutting the system down for one hour.

 

So, here are my questions:

 

1) VM time has to be done manually?   Has anyone done this via
VMUTIL (for example?

2) Does anything need to be done to the z/VSEs (when springing
forward)?

3) Will z/VSE pick up the time change when it's changed on VM?

4) Are there special conditions for 2 and 3 above (specifically
SET CLOCK/ZONE/ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY settings)

 

 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

Systems Programmer

MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE

American Income Life Insurance Co.

Phone: (254)761-6649

1200 Wooded Acres Dr.

Fax: (254)741-5777

Waco, Texas  76701

 

 


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Re: Question About Read console output under REXX

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rohling
'PIPE CMS command | STEM OUTPUT.'
'PIPE CP command| STEM OUTPUT.'

Do i = 1 to output.0
  Say output.i
End

for starters

Scott

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Hello List,

 Years ago, We had a REXX program that gove a CMS (query names), or a CP
 command (CP q rdr all) , and next read the output of
 this command in my program, for example : If we need look the spool files,
 my program process this, and look how many files had,
 or list the users logged in alphabetic order.
 Unfortunatelly We lost this samples programs, so, someone have anything
 like this ?

 Thanks very much.

 Sergio Lima Costa
 System Programmer
 GRV Solutions
 Sao Paulo - Brazil

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Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Smrcina

On 03/12/2010 09:59 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:


This is the first time (in quite some time) that I’ve had a Daylight 
Saving Time (Spring Forward). Last year we did a Fall Backward by 
shutting the system down for one hour.


So, here are my questions:

1) VM time has to be done manually? Has anyone done this via VMUTIL 
(for example?


2) Does anything need to be done to the z/VSEs (when springing forward)?

3) Will z/VSE pick up the time change when it’s changed on VM?

4) Are there special conditions for 2 and 3 above (specifically SET 
CLOCK/ZONE/ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY settings)


Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.



Systems Programmer



MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE

American Income Life Insurance Co.



Phone: (254)761-6649

1200 Wooded Acres Dr.



Fax: (254)741-5777

Waco, Texas 76701





1). As long as the timezone settings are correct in z/VM, issue the command:

SET TIMEZONE CDT

at the appropriate time. Doing this with VMUTIL (or your fave scheduler) 
shouldn't be a problem. I've never done it.


2). If the z/VSE systems do not have their own time zone settings, then 
after VMs timezone is set use the AR command:


TIME ZONE=VM

that will adjust the VSE timezone to the VM timezone (just like it does 
at IPL time).


3). Not automatically, see #2

4). Yes, if the z/VSE systems contain those statements you will probably 
have to change the VSE timezone manually (with TIME ZONE=CST (?)). I've 
never used those facilities so check System Control Statements for the 
exact syntax. The safest thing is to remove those statements and let VSE 
get the timezone from z/VM.


Some of this may vary by release. Very old VSE/ESA releases (2.3 ish 
when this support was first introduced) has major problems with setting 
the time zone from VM and set the clock to a very weird value. If you 
are on any sanely current release, you should be OK.

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Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Smrcina

On 03/12/2010 10:18 AM, Rich Smrcina wrote:


1). As long as the timezone settings are correct in z/VM, issue the 
command:


SET TIMEZONE CDT

at the appropriate time. Doing this with VMUTIL (or your fave 
scheduler) shouldn't be a problem. I've never done it.


One more thing... an appropriate time, might also be a convenient time.  
This doesn't necessarily have to be 2AM on Sunday.  I know one shop that 
does it around 8AM on Sunday because that's when the operator gets in 
for the Sunday shift.  Just make sure that if the command is issued 
*before* 2AM on Sunday, and an IPL is required for whatever reason, the 
time will revert back to the old setting (which can be disastrous in the 
spring).

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Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Munson
Frank,

I can answer number 1 for you, here is my wakeup parm file from VMUTIL

WAKEUP   PARMSZ1  F 80  Trunc=80 Size=98 Line=71 Col=1 Alt=5
 
0071 
0072 M-F  00:05:00 03/12/10 EXEC NJE$RJE 
0073 M-F  00:15:00 03/12/10 CP CHANGE RSCS RDR ALL NOHOLD 
0074 M-F  00:30:00 03/12/10 EXEC NEWBBH 
0075 ALL  00:45:00 03/12/10 EXEC UIERUN 
0076 M-F  02:00:00 03/12/10 CMS VMBACKUP SUBMIT BBHDAILY 
0077 SAT 02:00:00 03/06/10 CMS VMBACKUP SUBMIT BBHDAILY 
0078 SUN 03:00:00 03/07/10 CMS VMBACKUP SUBMIT BBHWEEK 
0079 *  N   03:00:00 03/01/10 CMS VMBACKUP SUBMIT BBHMONTH 
0080 *  N   02:00:00 11/01/09 CP SET TIMEZONE EST 
0081 SUN 02:00:00 11/01/09 CP SET TIMEZONE EDT 
0082 *  BEGIN OF  TEST 
0083 *02:00:00 10/12/09 EXEC PERF 
0084 *  END   OF  TEST 
0085 *  BEGIN OF  DAY  SHIFT 
0086 M-F  07:00:00 03/12/10 EXEC NJE$RJE 
0087 M-F  07:15:00 03/12/10 CP CHANGE RSCS RDR ALL NOHOLD 
0088 ALL  08:00:00 03/12/10 EXEC WATCHON 
0089 SAT  08:01:00 03/06/10 CMS PRINT VMUTIL LOG 
0090 SAT  08:03:00 03/06/10 CMS ERASE VMUTIL LOG 
0091 M-F  12:00:00 03/11/10 EXEC NJE$RJE 

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This is the first time (in quite some time) that I?ve had a Daylight 
Saving Time (Spring Forward).  Last year we did a Fall Backward by 
shutting the system down for one hour.
 
So, here are my questions:
 
1) VM time has to be done manually?   Has anyone done this via 
VMUTIL (for example?
2) Does anything need to be done to the z/VSEs (when springing 
forward)?
3) Will z/VSE pick up the time change when it?s changed on VM?
4) Are there special conditions for 2 and 3 above (specifically 
SET CLOCK/ZONE/ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY settings)
 

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Systems Programmer
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American Income Life Insurance Co.
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1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
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Re: Question About Read console output under REXX

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
Both are CP commands:
What about
 'PIPE CP Q NAMES|SPLIT at , |Strip | Sort |STEM user.'
 do i=1 to user.0
 parse var user.i name terminal .
 end

Or the second
'CP CP Q RDR * ALL |Drop|STEM RDR.'
do i=1 to rdr.0
parse var rdr.i origin spid 
end

P.S. get my LISTSG packagel and you can find USERLIST, to list logged on
users in a FILELIST fashion.
   http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?LISTSG

2010/3/12 Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.com

  Hello List,

 Years ago, We had a REXX program that gove a CMS (query names), or a CP
 command (CP q rdr all) , and next read the output of
 this command in my program, for example : If we need look the spool files,
 my program process this, and look how many files had,
 or list the users logged in alphabetic order.
 Unfortunatelly We lost this samples programs, so, someone have anything
 like this ?

 Thanks very much.

 Sergio Lima Costa
 System Programmer
 GRV Solutions
 Sao Paulo - Brazil

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Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
The RESOURCE files for for both IPGATEs should be different:

   - on the system where your SFS lives, the RESOURCE file should NOT
   include the SFS.  If it does, and IPGATE starts before SFS, IPGATE will own
   your SYSVSFSE resource.
   - on the other system, yes, there IPGATE should tell CP it manages
   resource SYSVSFSE.   Simply set: IPGATE is kind of lying: it tells CP it is
   SYSVSFSE, hence CP routes all requests to it. IPGATE consults a table to
   find the IP address of SYSVSFSE and will use TCP/IP to send to package to
   its IPGATE friend at the other side, where IPGATE will ask CP to forward the
   package to SYSVSFSE.  At that time IPGATE will also tell CP the package is
   coming from user xyz instead of its own userid IPGATE.  That's why
   IPGATE needs CP class B and RACF authority to act as if it were xyz


2010/3/12 Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net

 All userids on all systems are the same, so my

 IPGATE USERMAP is
 * * * Top of File * * *
 ;origin_system  origuser resource locuser
 ;23456789012345 12345678 12345678 12345678
 ;VLB1.MF.ADP.COM
 10.1.40.14  ***
 ;VLB2.MF.ADP.COM
 10.1.40.15  ***
 ;VML1.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.128.51   ***
 ;VML2.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.132.10   ***
 ;VML3.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.128.52   ***
 ;VML4.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.128.35   ***
 ;VMLX.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.132.6***
 ;SYSV.MF.ADP.COM
 10.175.128.32   ***
 * * * End of File * * *
 the Only resource I am attempting to share at the moment is the SFS server
 sysvsfse
 IPGATE Resource file looks like the following: (comments removed for
 compactness)
 **
 SYSVSFSE   SYSVESYSTEM   4567 10.175.128.32

 When I bring up the SFS server the Q Resource shows
 Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: Global  Owning Userid: VMSERVE
 Then when I bring up the IPGATE server Q Resource looks like
 Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: Global  Owning Userid: VMSERVE
 Resource: XC_   Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE
 On the second system I am using the identical IPGATE resource and usermap
 files: and a Q Resource appears as :
 Resource: SYSVSFSE  Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE
 Resource: XC_   Type: System  Owning Userid: IPGATE


 I have changed the specification in the resource file from SYSTEM to GLobal
 with no change.




-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Philip Tully
So on the system owning the SFS server, the file is only comments.

Again no change.  I also verified that the server has class B authority.


Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Rich Smrcina

On 03/12/2010 11:12 AM, Steve Mondy wrote:

Frank,
As Rich said the VM SET TIMEZONE can be issued at any time. We don't change 
ours until Sunday night.

In the past we have had some problems with different software not picking up 
the time change even if VSE did pick it up. So to ensure that all software has 
the correct time we IPL our VSEs at both time changes. It is simpler for the 
operators.

As for the SET ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY.  Our processor is in the eastern time zone and 
is set to UTC. VM is set to eastern time zone.  Some of our VSEs run with ET so 
they do not have the ZONEDEF/BDY statements in the IPL proc.  We could have the 
time updated with TIME ZONE=VM command, but as I said above we IPL. Other of 
our VSEs are set to CT and do have the ZONEDEF/BDY statements.  The time could 
be updated on these VSEs with the TIME ZONE=CDT command.

Steve

   
Jobs running on VSE don't have the ability to be notified of the 
timezone change or pick it up.  CICS can be 'asked' to reset it's 
internal clock via CEMT PERFORM RESET.  But any other job will need to 
be restarted.  This is useful for jobs that are local time sensitive 
(require the correct local time).  If they aren't time sensitive, it 
doesn't really matter.


Since this support became available (and stable on VSE) over 10 years 
ago, one local shop doesn't IPL for the time change.  They issue the 
commands, bounce the jobs that need it (wait an hour in the fall), and 
carry on with business on Sunday.

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Phone: 414-491-6001
http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina

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Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Rob Holtz
Be sure to account for some software that does not like the time 
changing while it is running.
We shutdown the following until after the SET TIMEZONE command is 
issued; you may other ones:
1.  SMTP - be sure to stay logged on after shutting it down so TCPIP 
doesn't AUTOLOG it back on.

2.  VMBACKUP and VMSCHED
3.  All our SQL servers.


In the Spring, we bring them all back up immediately.
In the Fall, we wait one hour until the time reaches the time we shut 
them down and then bring them all back up.


Rob 


On 3/12/2010 8:59 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:


This is the first time (in quite some time) that I've had a Daylight 
Saving Time (Spring Forward).  Last year we did a Fall Backward by 
shutting the system down for one hour.


 


So, here are my questions:

 

1) VM time has to be done manually?   Has anyone done this via 
VMUTIL (for example?


2) Does anything need to be done to the z/VSEs (when springing 
forward)?


3) Will z/VSE pick up the time change when it's changed on VM?

4) Are there special conditions for 2 and 3 above 
(specifically SET CLOCK/ZONE/ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY settings)


 


 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.



 


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Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
And did you look at the consoles of both IPGATEs?

Other information: what does SFS think about your connection.  Suppose you
user userid A
- make sure user A is logged off on both systems
At the system with SFS:
- use some other user and issue Q FILEPOOL CONNECT
-- user A should not be there
At the remote system: make userA connect into SFS
At the system with SFS:
- use some other user and issue Q FILEPOOL CONNECT
-- user A should be there

Does user A have a COMDIR file?
- Issue Q COMDIR, it can report a USER and SYSTEM file
- Look inside the reported files, search for an entry
   :nick.SYSVSFSE
  if it exists it can cause misunderstandings (or it can help you)

2010/3/12 Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net

 So on the system owning the SFS server, the file is only comments.

 Again no change.  I also verified that the server has class B authority.




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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Question About Read console output under REXX

2010-03-12 Thread Bob Bates
If you are looking to get the users in alphabetical order:

'PIPE CP Q N' ,
   '| split /,/',
   '| strip' ,
   '| sort'  ,
   '| pad 15' ,
   '| join 3 /, /' ,
   '| console'

Not sure what you are looking for in the spool. Q F userid tells how many a 
user has.



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Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
In my case, like Jerry's, I have more than one VM image feeding off of the same 
maintenance disks. My production PARM disks are not a part of the installation 
and maintenance system, so, as stated, I really do not care what goes on the 
CFx disks. I check for changes and update my real disks as appropriate. CF1 
gets used only by a 2nd level system that insures that the base system ipls and 
runs following installation and maintenance activities. 

Wasn't there a time when CF1 was production, CF2 was backup and no CF3 
existed? Perhaps back in the days when the T-shirt with the VM Bear on the 
diving board about to dive into the green VM/SES pool was popular. There were a 
few years when I had no installation and maintenance responsibility. When was 
CF3 added to the mix?


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:14 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: CP's Parm Disks
 
 On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 11:11 EST, Schuh, Richard 
 rsc...@visa.com
 wrote:
  Not that I mind having it written on the CFx disk, I do not 
 use it on
 any live 
  system, but I seem to remember someone on this list, 
 someone from IBM,
 saying 
  that the PARM disks were there for our use in customizing 
 the system 
  and
 that 
  they would not be violated by IBM. I don't remember who 
 said it, but I
 think 
  his initials were A.A.
 
 The CF1 disk (production) is yours to do with as you 
 please.  CF2 is a build disk and belongs to IBM.  CF3 is a 
 copy of your CF1.  You put it on the CF1 and it will end up 
 on CF2 and CF3.
 
 If PUT2PROD doesn't meet your needs, you need to tell us in 
 what way it interferes with your ability to service your systems. 
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 

Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/12/2010 at 04:31 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 My problem with SERVICE and PUT2PROD is that I don't know what it will 
do to 
 *my* system.  For example can one still work with first upgrading CP, 
then, 
 maybe days/weeks later, CMS?

You can today specify a component name on PUT2PROD, but CP and CMS share 
production disks, so today's PUT2PROD will force CMS into production as 
well.  In the future, PUT2PROD will have a more delicate touch and be able 
to do them separately.

 Can I install SW on placed I like (not in users like 5684042J or 
5654010A)?  
 And not necessarly in VMSYS, (what often means VMSYS:5654010A.xxx) but 
in for 
 example SFSESA:MAINTPP.VTAM420 ?

Sure.  Just do a PPF override to SERVP2P or the product PPF.  Note that 
you cannot override the SERV2P2 PPF for z/VM itself or pre-installed 
products during installation, so if you choose to override them later, you 
must copy the existing data to the new location.

For VMSES/E-formatted products that you install later, you can override 
the PPF during installation, avoiding the need to copy data.  For more 
information, see the Program Directory for the product you are interested 
in.

 I know, it can be documented somewhere (PPFs?  other ctrl files?), but I 
didn't 
 get any education about this.  In the good old days, there were delta 
 workshops. This is how I learned about VMSES (in an ITSC workshop) and 
then I 
 tried to educate the Belgian VM customers with my own version of delta 
 workshops.

It's all there in the VMSES/E Reference, but it's not for the faint of 
heart.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
You already have parsers that know how to parse REXX comments, so the 
complexity is not that tough to deal with. However, it does require that the 
person updating or creating the file be more careful and, perhaps, use QDI if 
building by hand.

Because of the possibility of having special characters in volsers, it would be 
appropriate to require that comments, however delimited, be isolated 
statements. The complexity is in determining whether what follows the presumed 
delimiter is data or comment. That would be avoided by not allowing comments on 
the command statements. It would also be easier to add to the current code - a 
single check to determine whether it is a comment.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:58 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas
 
 On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 03:19 EST, Daniel P. Martin 
 dmar...@gizmoworks.com wrote:
  Well,  yes, the semicolon does work...  but if you're going 
 to have to 
  do new work to hack the way DDR parses statements anyhow, REXX-ish 
  syntax would certainly be a desirable approach.  Not that I 
 have any 
  delusions about the development process being at all 
 democratic, but 
  if you're considering votes, I vote for:
  
  - /* blah blah blah */ syntax for comments
  - ; (semicolon) for statement continuation
 
 Ooooh.  Humpty Dumpty strikes again!  You have cleverly 
 changed the definition of desirable to mean the most 
 complicated option possible. 
 REXX comments.  Nesting.  gack
 
 Semicolons, otoh, are simple to describe and simple to implement.
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 

Re: Compression support added to VMA

2010-03-12 Thread Leland Lucius

Kris Buelens wrote:

The new version looks much nicer too.  Thanks.

I try the ADD process and added a CAL.CMD file to an existing VMARC 
file, that I then uploaded to VM:
l qdsk vmarc (ISO  
FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME  
QDSK VMARCA1 F 80125  3 2010-03-12 09:59:41
Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:07  
vmarc list QDSK VMARC A
CAL  CMD  A1. Bytes in=2400, bytes out=   0 ( 0%). 
QDSK EXEC A1. Bytes in=7600, bytes out=   0 ( 0%). 
Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:19  
vmarc unpk QDSK VMARC A
Unexpected error during output. RC=11. 
Ready MAINT at AGC (00011); T=0.01/0.01 10:01:25   
If the 11 is an FSWRITE retruncode:

 11 FSCB is not marked with a record format of F nor of V

I didn't change the settings (that I just now detected), they still read:
fmode A1, refcm Variable, lrecl 65535, compression LZW; conversion 
empty



Can you send me the file?  That'd be a big help.

I don't know how difficult this would be: now when adding files to a 
VMARC, one would first need to update the settings (to set the 
characteristics of the files to be added).  It would be much better if 
the File Open dialog could be changed to include these settings on the 
Open panel, otherwise chances are great one will forget to set the right 
things.


Yea, that is a pain isn't it.  There's a couple of ways to go about 
addressing it.


I could use the unreleased version of wxWidgets which provides a means 
of adding controls directly to the Open File dialog.  This would work 
for the Windows and Mac versions since I build they are prebuilt, but it 
wouldn't be quite so easy for Linux users since they have to build VMA 
themselves and distros aren't packaging that version of wxWidgets yet.


Another way would be to get the list of files via the standard Open 
Dialog and then pop up another dialog that would list the files 
selected.  You could then change the properties for all files or for 
individual files.  (This seems the most likely option.)


A third option is to display a properties dialog for each file prior to 
adding it.  This is the easiest and quickest to do since the dialog is 
already present is and is already displayed if the input filenames 
aren't in 8.8.2 format.


Leland


Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Philip Tully
I did this from maint:

id
 

MAINTAT SYSPROG1 VIA *03/12/10 14:06:40 EST  FRIDAY  
  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:06:40   
 

q filepool connect   
 
 
UseridConnected  
 
 
IPGATEYes
 
 
MAINT Yes
 
 
* Yes
 
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:07:34  
At this point I accessed sysvsfs:tools.  from ptully 
 
 
q filepool connect   
 
 
UseridConnected  
 
 
IPGATEYes
 
 
MAINT Yes
 
 
* Yes
 
 
* Yes
 
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:08:43   
 

I am showing up as '*' which of course doesn't have authority.


Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
This proves that something is terribly wrong: IPGATE passes userid * to SFS,
and not PTULLY.
I don't have a VM system ready now,

I bet you have three *s in the USERMAP instead of two * and one =
 IPGATE   USERMAP  H1  V 80  Trunc=80 Size=10 Line=1 Col=1

!...+1+2+3+4+5+...
* * * Top of File * * *
;origin_system  origuser resource locuser
  6  line(s) not displayed ---
*   **not_auth
; VMIFL: allow any user to come in with its own authority
10.132.224.200  **=
* * * End of File * * *


2010/3/12 Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net

 I did this from maint:

 id
 MAINTAT SYSPROG1 VIA *03/12/10 14:06:40 EST  FRIDAY
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:06:40
 q filepool connect
 UseridConnected
 IPGATEYes
 MAINT Yes
 * Yes
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:07:34
 At this point I accessed sysvsfs:tools.  from ptully

 q filepool connect
 UseridConnected
 IPGATEYes
 MAINT Yes
 * Yes
 * Yes
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:08:43
 I am showing up as '*' which of course doesn't have authority.




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Question About Read console output under REXX

2010-03-12 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Or my preference:

 

/*   QUERY NAMES replacement
*/ 

  Trace O


  Address COMMAND


  PIPE CP QUERY NAMES,


  | SPLIT ,,


  | STRIP,


  | SORT,


  | SPEC 1.15 1.16,


  | SNAKE 5,


  | CONSOLE


Exit rc


 

 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Bob Bates
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:04 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question About Read console output under REXX

 

If you are looking to get the users in alphabetical order:

 

'PIPE CP Q N' ,

   '| split /,/',

   '| strip' ,

   '| sort'  ,

   '| pad 15' ,

   '| join 3 /, /' ,

   '| console'

 

Not sure what you are looking for in the spool. Q F userid tells how
many a user has. 

 

 

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Re: IPGATE with RACF

2010-03-12 Thread Philip Tully
that was it.

I had an * not an = in the last column

Thank you for all your help


Re: Compression support added to VMA

2010-03-12 Thread Kris Buelens
The second option to present properties is fine too, better than the one by
one approach.

2010/3/12 Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net

 Kris Buelens wrote:

 The new version looks much nicer too.  Thanks.

 I try the ADD process and added a CAL.CMD file to an existing VMARC file,
 that I then uploaded to VM:
 l qdsk vmarc (ISO
  FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL   RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME
  QDSK VMARCA1 F 80125  3 2010-03-12 09:59:41
 Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:07
  vmarc list QDSK VMARC A
  CAL  CMD  A1. Bytes in=2400, bytes out=   0 ( 0%).
 QDSK EXEC A1. Bytes in=7600, bytes out=   0 ( 0%).
 Ready MAINT at AGC ; T=0.01/0.01 10:01:19
  vmarc unpk QDSK VMARC A
  Unexpected error during output. RC=11.
 Ready MAINT at AGC (00011); T=0.01/0.01 10:01:25
 If the 11 is an FSWRITE retruncode:
  11 FSCB is not marked with a record format of F nor of V

 I didn't change the settings (that I just now detected), they still read:
fmode A1, refcm Variable, lrecl 65535, compression LZW; conversion
 empty

  Can you send me the file?  That'd be a big help.


  I don't know how difficult this would be: now when adding files to a
 VMARC, one would first need to update the settings (to set the
 characteristics of the files to be added).  It would be much better if the
 File Open dialog could be changed to include these settings on the Open
 panel, otherwise chances are great one will forget to set the right things.

  Yea, that is a pain isn't it.  There's a couple of ways to go about
 addressing it.

 I could use the unreleased version of wxWidgets which provides a means of
 adding controls directly to the Open File dialog.  This would work for the
 Windows and Mac versions since I build they are prebuilt, but it wouldn't be
 quite so easy for Linux users since they have to build VMA themselves and
 distros aren't packaging that version of wxWidgets yet.

 Another way would be to get the list of files via the standard Open Dialog
 and then pop up another dialog that would list the files selected.  You
 could then change the properties for all files or for individual files.
  (This seems the most likely option.)

 A third option is to display a properties dialog for each file prior to
 adding it.  This is the easiest and quickest to do since the dialog is
 already present is and is already displayed if the input filenames aren't in
 8.8.2 format.

 Leland




-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 05:39 EST, Brian Nielsen 
bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote:
 The main problem to solve is still the same as the original posters'
 problem: The DASD label might contain the special characters or 
character
 
 DASD labels of @@, ¢¢, and /* */ are all valid 

Sorry if I'm being unclear.  If you put a comment delimiter anywhere prior 
to the end of a statement, it is a syntax error, not a comment.

  OUTPUT 111 3390 ; comment

would not interpret the semicolon as a volid.

And while the characters you list are allowed, they are not valid.  The 
IBM VOL1 label standard defines the label to be A-Z and 0-9.  It permits 
other characters for compatibility, but only when placed within a quoted 
string.   I know, I know: if no one follows it, it must not be much of a 
Standard, wot?

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas

2010-03-12 Thread Schuh, Richard
It must be Friday, Alan answered hastily like he was anxious to leave the 
office. It is A-Z, 0-9, @,#,$

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:32 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Automated DDR funny - has anyone got any ideas
 
 On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 05:39 EST, Brian Nielsen 
 bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote:
  The main problem to solve is still the same as the original posters'
  problem: The DASD label might contain the special characters or
 character
  
  DASD labels of @@, ¢¢, and /* */ are all valid
 
 Sorry if I'm being unclear.  If you put a comment delimiter 
 anywhere prior to the end of a statement, it is a syntax 
 error, not a comment.
 
   OUTPUT 111 3390 ; comment
 
 would not interpret the semicolon as a volid.
 
 And while the characters you list are allowed, they are not 
 valid.  The IBM VOL1 label standard defines the label to be 
 A-Z and 0-9.  It permits other characters for compatibility, 
 but only when placed within a quoted 
 string.   I know, I know: if no one follows it, it must not 
 be much of a 
 Standard, wot?
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 

Re: Daylight Saving Time w/ VSE

2010-03-12 Thread Dave Jones
PerfKit, (a.k.a PERFSVM) doesn't like to have the time changing while 
it's running, either. It gets confused about when midnight occurs.


On 03/12/2010 11:38 AM, Rob Holtz wrote:

Be sure to account for some software that does not like the time
changing while it is running.
We shutdown the following until after the SET TIMEZONE command is
issued; you may other ones:
1. SMTP - be sure to stay logged on after shutting it down so TCPIP
doesn't AUTOLOG it back on.
2. VMBACKUP and VMSCHED
3. All our SQL servers.


In the Spring, we bring them all back up immediately.
In the Fall, we wait one hour until the time reaches the time we shut
them down and then bring them all back up.

Rob
On 3/12/2010 8:59 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:


This is the first time (in quite some time) that I've had a Daylight
Saving Time (Spring Forward). Last year we did a Fall Backward by
shutting the system down for one hour.



So, here are my questions:



1) VM time has to be done manually? Has anyone done this via VMUTIL
(for example?

2) Does anything need to be done to the z/VSEs (when springing forward)?

3) Will z/VSE pick up the time change when it's changed on VM?

4) Are there special conditions for 2 and 3 above (specifically SET
CLOCK/ZONE/ZONEDEF/ZONEBDY settings)



Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.





Systems Programmer



MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE

American Income Life Insurance Co.



Phone: (254)761-6649

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Re: CP's Parm Disks

2010-03-12 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I totally agree with you and the general tone of this thread, at least 
the tone expressed outside of Endicott.  I only have 2 systems that I 
maintain beyond the 2nd level maintenance system.  SES never gets it's 
hands on those 2 systems.  When I've got maintenance or a new release 
installed and running smoothly on the 2nd level system, I move 
components to the first level system.  You're right.  CF1 is production 
and CF2 is backup.  The only CF3 I see is what gets restored by DDR for 
a new release.


Jim Bohnsack

On 3/12/2010 11:30 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:

In my case, like Jerry's, I have more than one VM image feeding off of the =
same maintenance disks. My production PARM disks are not a part of the inst=
allation and maintenance system, so, as stated, I really do not care what g=
oes on the CFx disks. I check for changes and update my real disks as appro=
priate. CF1 gets used only by a 2nd level system that insures that the base=
  system ipls and runs following installation and maintenance activities.=20

Wasn't there a time when CF1 was production, CF2 was backup and no CF3 =
existed? Perhaps back in the days when the T-shirt with the VM Bear on the =
diving board about to dive into the green VM/SES pool was popular. There we=
re a few years when I had no installation and maintenance responsibility. W=
hen was CF3 added to the mix?   =20


Regards,=20
Richard Schuh=20

=20

   

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System=20
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CP's Parm Disks
=20
On Thursday, 03/11/2010 at 11:11 EST, Schuh, Richard=20
rsc...@visa.com
wrote:
 

Not that I mind having it written on the CFx disk, I do not=20
   

use it on
any live=20
 

system, but I seem to remember someone on this list,=20
   

someone from IBM,
saying=20
 

that the PARM disks were there for our use in customizing=20
   

the system=20
 

and
   

that=20
 

they would not be violated by IBM. I don't remember who=20
   

said it, but I
think=20
 

his initials were A.A.
   

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The CF1 disk (production) is yours to do with as you=20
please.  CF2 is a build disk and belongs to IBM.  CF3 is a=20
copy of your CF1.  You put it on the CF1 and it will end up=20
on CF2 and CF3.
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If PUT2PROD doesn't meet your needs, you need to tell us in=20
what way it interferes with your ability to service your systems.=20
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Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
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