Re: [IceHorses] Night turnout - not
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a poor image quality photo of why we stopped turning the horses out after dark. I confess we have slipped back into thinking they're safe, but it hasn't been all that long since Sammie was killed. One of the reasons we bring our equines in at night. The other is just that it is so much easier to feed, etc. when they are inside. Actually they each have a 12 X 12 stall with a 12 X 24 run attached, so they can move around a bit. I just feel safer having them close enough so I could hopefully hear if there was a scuffle or something at night... Ferne Fedeli No. California PS Most of the fires right around us are completely contained, if not out! Nice clear air for a change!
Re: [IceHorses] Sacking out Carmen
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that Carmen is just about de-sensitized. BTW, Carmen is the cat who hard-paces. What a cutie! Looks something like my cat, Phantom. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Bit Sizer
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?splid=0608RRTpn=X1-038cn=1481bhcd2=1216068231 What's wrong with a pencil or a lead rope? When I was going thru the bit traumas, I tried things like a little stick etc., but then couldn't remember exactly where it started etc. and nearly went nuts. I was so happy when a friend offered to loan me some bits in different sizes to try! Then I could say, a 6 is too big, etc. etc.. Probably I'm just bit retarded!!! Ha! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Magic, Cushings and IR
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A tribute to Magic: http://www.gaitedgala.com/MagicTribute.html At first glance at the Heading, I thought it was my Magic and thought how could this be, he has EPM, not Cushings... Then I read the article. A sad story for sure. Hopefully, my guy will recover and get on with his life soon. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Mr. T's jewels...and look at that face!
Any news on Magic? Yes, his test came out positive for EPM (well, UC Davis said that there was a 95% chance he had it, so I should start treatment!), so I have to start Marquis as soon as I receive it from Valley Vet. There is another Icelandic owner in Sonoma that my trainer works with whose horse also had EPM and went through the Marquis treatment. I've emailed her for info on her experiences, etc. According to Susanna (my trainer) this other horse recovered beautifully and is Kellie's favorite riding horse now... I will hope for the best! Thanks for asking! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Magic
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope Magic recovers fully and quickly. Tell him that his sister (Flekka), niece (Princess Buttercup) and nephew (Isak) want him to get well quickly! I will tell him. I'm sure it will make him feel better!?! The other woman I know who has gone thru the EPM treatment with her mare called me and told me all that she could remember about her horses treatment. She said that her mare has a little weakness on the bad side, but otherwise seems really good. She gave the Marquis treatment for 2 months. I guess if that's what it takes, I will have to do that too. Argh!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Mr. T's jewels...and look at that face!
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Teev got a new sidepull made just for him by Moss Rock Endurance. She's been doing bling on her biothane tack for a while, but this was the first time she did turquoise stones. Karen Thomas, NC Glad to hear Tivar is doing so well. That sidepull is gorgeous. Looks like it has jewelry on it!!! I love Turquoise anyway! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] My Gusti
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to put my Gusti to sleep yesterday. Wanda, I'm so sorry to hear about Gusti. That worries me still more because I'm waiting to hear on the results of Magic's EPM test. I thought I'd hear by Friday, but am now hoping for Monday. I know it will be hard for awhile for you to go on dealing with the other horses, thinking about him and worrying about what might happen to another horse. It is good that he wasn't in pain at the end though, just think of that. You have my deepest sympathy. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] My Mother's Paradise
On 6/25/08, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i looked up the word serene in the dictionary I would not be surprised to see this picture! Your mom is so beautiful. ...and I think her daughter took after her!!!
Re: [IceHorses] Fires in No CA
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernadette had to be evacuated due to the fires in No CA, but hopefully they will be able to return within the next few days. Good thoughts to Faxi and Riddari, as well as Bern and her husband. Is she still in the Gilroy area? We are having some big fires in the hills to the east of us. They called me earlier this afternoon from the Disaster Preparedness Group to ask if I would be willing to accept evacuated horses if it was needed. She told me to be sure to get the owners to sign a release, so I would have no problems later. Oh my, I guess you always have to expect the worst--well, I can hope for the best. Maybe there will no need. Ferne Fedeli Mendocino County
Re: [IceHorses] mounting block
The mounting block was a hit. Dagur is checking it out and decides he likes it enough to send Solon on his way. Looks great, Wanda! Someone can be mounting on every side at once!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Horse records
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do all of you keep your horse records? - Shots, worming, training? Do any of you use a specific software? I just made a sheet with columns in MS Word that I use for each horse that gives the date, Who (vet, farrier, etc.) and what. It is very simple and works for everything I've needed. I have a 3-ring binder for each horse and always keep the notation sheets on top and file the copies of vet bill or whatever underneath. I have a 8.5 X 11 pic of the horse on the front of the binder. Been doing that way for years and it works for me! I was at first fascinated by the different software programs, but decided that it was a little silly for 4 horses to go to that expense and trouble. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Collins Twins Buy Two New Horses
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/06/collins-twins.html Thanks Judy! I always like to read about the adventures of the Collins twins. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Another Pink Item / Bathing
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I maybe only bathe (with soap) maybe once a year. Susan I rarely ever bathe Judy Could this be why the other Icelandic riders don't care for us? Now why didn't I think of that!!! LOL Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Ariat Dumas
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a pair of these on ebay a few weeks ago for a real bargain price. I was disappointed they were very narrow relative to the Ariat's I've had in the past Karen Thomas, NC I found out a few years after buying many Ariats and having them be marginally uncomfortable, that they are know for being a tad narrow! The Terrain's are the only Ariats that I have that are truly comfortable and I usually wear them. They do have some with mesh over the top, but I thought they looked a little different than these... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Tranquil Teev in The Turquoise Torsion Tack
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good color for Tivar? Blue must have a calmatose effect on horses... That is great color! Of course, purple and turquoise are my favorite colors. All of us volunteers at the library are making our librarian a quilt for her future baby and I chose the horse (of course). Mine is purple with turquoise mane and tail!?! They are Chinese calendar figures and Gene says mine looks more like a Basset Hound than a horse!?! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Derby (was Tosca in purple)
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be interesting if they can come up with an answer to what went wrong with Big Brown today. Never again will I tune in. I immediately thought that his hoof must have been bothering him more than they thought (or cared about--as you say, Renee)... I still think that racing these horses so young is really crazy, but with all the money involved, it will probably never change. The horses ought to start a union!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] What Teev thinks of people who give horses baths...
Perfect pic, Karen! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ridden with a horse that survived EPM. One cheek was way sunk in. The owner said the oly time it affected him was he had trouble going up or down steep hills, I cant remember which, that he had to take it real slow on hills. Janice Janice, Magic has the left hind area sunk in. As far as riding him, he seems just fine so far. I was supposed to trailer him up 40 minles north of me to meet the vet and have her draw the blood for the EPM test today, but last night I had a message on my phone that she would have to cancel because of a death in the family and wouldn't be available until next week... I'll be glad to get over the wondering and waiting... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] OT - Tick Removal
This is great, because it works in those places where it's some times difficult to get to with tweezers: between toes, in the middle of a head full of dark hair, etc. Laree, you mean you don't have a tick removal tool? I get them from my small animal vet. They only cost about $3 I think and they have sort of a V that you slide between the tick and the skin and then just lift up. We have a couple of them. They work better than tweezers for me. Ferne Fedeli PS We have ticks in the winter here, when it is wet. Soon as the rains are gone, so are the ticks.
Re: [IceHorses] Re:OT-my diet - Raven????
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of weight loss - Raven you need to join this conversation. How much have you lost? 35 lbs. got 10-15 left to lose. That is great, Raven! I've lost 20 on the Weight Watchers Core plan since the first of the year and just love it. I figure it is more a way of eating than a diet and it is something that has finally worked for me. No counting stuff or fooling around. You just eat foods from a list and I more often than not eat things I shouldn't sometime during the week, but as long as I get back the next day, it's fine. Of course, I've slowed down a bit now-- must be down to the cement part!?! LOL Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Robyn, but - http://www.harmonyequine.com/ Thanks for posting Joyce Harmon's website for Ferne, Laree - I am in the middle of a companion animal training here and haven't had time to find it. Robyn Thanks everyone for all the help. I will check the website soon as I turn the horses out and then I'll call my vet and talk over this stuff with her... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ferne I checked on AAEP site but I don't belong so have limited access. The places I could go weren't very helpful - except that muscle wasting of the the large muscles of the hip(s) can be a symptom. I don't know enough about it to be helpful - but all tests have some false negs/false positives - and generally are still worth running under the right circumstances. Sounds like Magic needs a thorough neuro exam, poor dude. Penny Hi Penny, Well, the main place I looked was at The Horse, which is an AAEP site. In fact my vet told me that was a good place to look. I've subscribed for years and their info is often quite useful. I suppose I should go ahead and have the test or tests as the alternative is not too promising. One article said that they can have it for years with very few symptoms and then suddenly get much worse. I'm still riding him, although lightly. I keep worrying that he will suddenly collapse and I'll get hurt yet again!?! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] EPM?
Could it be EPSM? http://iceryder.net/epsm.html Hi Judy, Thanks for the additional info. I hadn't heard of EPSM. The only symptom of either that he seems to have is the muscle wasting on his left hind. He still seems as full of energy as usual and I haven't looked at the diet yet, but the only grain-type thing he gets is one cup of LMF Low Carb Stage I at night with a scoop of Platinum Performance and a cup of Oat-Alfalfa pellets. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
well as an allopathic approach? Dr. Joyce Harman likely has some suggestions and someone recently posted her website about vaccinations? She does a lot of work with EPM horses. I also think that ABC Products has some supportive products. We also have a protocol to do once he is treated - should it be confirmed - that help with the repatterning of the nervous system. Hi Robyn, Thanks for the suggestions. I sort of doubt if we have a vet that uses any alternative approaches around here. Do you have the address of Dr. Joyce Harman's site, or should I just Google her? I was just talking to Barbara Chasteen about the ABC products, but hadn't bought any yet. Have you had any experience with EPSM? I noticed that it said don't use Oat Hay and we did just change to Oat Hay this winter, because a local farmer we know had some at a great price... We mix some Oat with some grass hay, but Magic loves the Oat and hasn't been eating all his grass hay half the time. There are always so many confusing things to think about!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] What we are going to do....
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:04 PM, pennyndrifa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next week is the Western States Horse Expo in Sacramento. Drifa and I are going to be in Davis Lichman's demo me and say hi. Penny Does this mean you are going to be one of those insufferable celebrities!?! LOL Ferne PS Unfortunately, I'm not going to the Horse Expo this year. Going to the Husch Wine Club picnic with my sis instead...
Re: [IceHorses] Jacki has sent you an article from TheHorse.com
Vet Calls Theodore O'Connor Euthanasia 'The Right Thing to Do' * I know. I felt so bad when I read that. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Vaccinations / Spreading Them Out
At that time, we suggested that the vaccinations be spread out. I do agree that it would be better to spread the shots out, but since my vet is 2 1/2 hours away and charges me $95 for a farm call now, I had them done all at once. She did some on one side and the others on the other side, hoping that might help for any soreness--of course, it wouldn't help with overloading their system. Ferne
[IceHorses] EPM?
Has anyone had any experiences with EPM? Magic has had this muscle wasting on his left hind for awhile and I thought either one of the other horses kicked him or he ran into a post or something. He's had a couple of sessions with Barbara Chasteen, who does bodywork and she thought the same thing. When the vet was here for the horses shots a couple of weeks ago, she said it also could possibly be EPM, as muscle wasting is one of the signs. She called me back yesterday about my old Arab, who has Ringbone (another story) and asked if I had thought about testing Magic for EPM. I read up on it on The Horse and also saw there were lots of pros and cons on the tests for it, such as false positives and false negatives, so don't quite know what to do at this point. Anybody got any good ideas? Ferne Fedeli
[IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
For some reason, this didn't make it to the list the first time... -- Forwarded message -- From: Ferne Fedeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM Subject: EPM? To: icehorses@yahoogroups.com Has anyone had any experiences with EPM? Magic has had this muscle wasting on his left hind for awhile and I thought either one of the other horses kicked him or he ran into a post or something. He's had a couple of sessions with Barbara Chasteen, who does bodywork and she thought the same thing. When the vet was here for the horses shots a couple of weeks ago, she said it also could possibly be EPM, as muscle wasting is one of the signs. She called me back yesterday about my old Arab, who has Ringbone (another story) and asked if I had thought about testing Magic for EPM. I read up on it on The Horse and also saw there were lots of pros and cons on the tests for it, such as false positives and false negatives, so don't quite know what to do at this point. Anybody got any good ideas? Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Vaccinations
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good question on the gaitedhorse list: What vaccinations do you give and how often? My vet was just here for everyone's shots and I said something about seeing her in 6 months for WNV and she said she felt that the new WNV vaccine was now safe and she would be using it and that they only need it once a year. Sounds good to me. Other than that, we give the 4 or 5-way with the E W Tetanus and also Rabies... So guess we will only need yearly shots now... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Vaccinations
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only give a flu/rhino if the horses are going to be traveling a lot or would have to go to the vet school or some other equine hospital for some reason. Oh, I forgot. The vet gave the Appy and Magic Flu/Rhino because we do travel with them a bit. Well, Magic goes down to Ann's twice a month and then it is better- weather timecnow, so we will be trailering out and riding more--occasionally where there are other horses... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] 67 yr old equestrian to compete in Olympics
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11905 -- Laree in NC There's hope yet for all of us older riders!?! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] icelandic wanted
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Dana Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am beginning (slowly) my search for an icelandic horse. Please send details and pics to email on www.nickerssaddlery.com or saddlery%telus.net thanks! Gee, Dana, you--of all people--should know that Robyn and Phil have the best selection, best trained, etc. etc. Icelandics around! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Whiskeytown
Did this seem like an odd comment to you? At the time, it didn't, but you're quite right. I also ride my Icelandic mare with several other breeds, mainly Arab endurance horses. She keeps up very well most of the time, Magic and I went to a class on obstacles for Trail Trials a few years back and the trainer asked if we would like to go on a trail ride following the class. Someone asked if Magic could keep up with the rest of them and I said I didn't see a problem... Near the end of the ride when we were far ahead and had to stop and wait for some of the other horses, the same person said My goodness, I didn't realize those little horses would do so well on the trail! I just smiled! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] sick horses
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Weird day – fed in the morning and our neighbour called to say that there was a horse lying down in the pasture so we went out and brought in one and noticed another horse lying down – just quietly but not eating. am not really feeling good about this horse so your thoughts for both of them would be appreciated. Robyn Hood I wish the best for both of them. That really does sound pretty frightening! I'm always happy when each day goes by and the animals are all okay... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] iceponies looking for homes
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Karen, Of course, I just knew that I didn't have very many from Flekkur - can't think of who else besides Reddi but there could have been a couple. I don't think they were ones from Flekkur. There were several that said fra Icelandic Horse Farm and I thought they were yours... Maybe not... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] iceponies looking for homes
Yes, BW mare 17 years old. SC Flekur (?) x Sc Feline. Do you know her? If so, can you fill us in on part of her story? She came without any papers -- lost in the rescue?? I am going to try to get new papers issued, does any one have any experience with this? I thought SC Flekkur sounded familiar and so checked my registration papers. He is the Dam's Sire of my horse, SC Frami, otherwise known as Magic... Interesting! Robyn should know about all those that sound like they are from her place... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Totally OT - Vista Excel??
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I just got home from England and got a new computer - some corruption in my other one. It came with Vista but I promptly had it changed back to XP. I got a new computer last fall with Vista and have had very few problems with it. It is much like XP with a few additional bells and whistles. I had a bit of trouble getting on to how to burn CD's at first, but when they told me what to do, it was fine. I was just used to the XP way... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] I won!!!
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won a round pen in a raffle at our local fed store. doin' the happy dance Penny ...And I missed Penny doing the happy dance!! Congratulations though! What a treat! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] grooming tool
have to let you know that I think this is the best shedding tool I have ever seen and it's cheap! http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3307+5+17841pcatid=17841 I got two of these--medium and large--on Ann's recommendation. They are really great. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Manure Spreader
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Ferne Fedeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a manure spreader that can be pulled behind an ATV? These look nice but don't know the first thing about features to look for: Ferne has one and she can give details. I think she is very pleased with it. Ann Yes, I just love the Newer Spreader. I've probably had it about 5 years and pull it behind either our ATV or the Garden tractor. It has about the same capacity or more as our big Rubbermaid cart that we used to use or more. Susan Young of Saddle Up Tack in Florida bought one soon after I got mine, so you could always check with her too. Ferne Ooops. Sort of goofed up that middle sentence... I use to clean the stalls and pens of 3 horses and a donkey. They are in at night and out in pasture or paddocks during the day. Just to give you an idea of the capacity. It wouldn't work for a large number of horses--or you would have to make multiple trips. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Manure Spreader
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a manure spreader that can be pulled behind an ATV? These look nice but don't know the first thing about features to look for: Ferne has one and she can give details. I think she is very pleased with it. Ann Yes, I just love the Newer Spreader. I've probably had it about 5 years and pull it behind either our ATV or the Garden tractor. It has about the same capacity or more as our big Rubbermaid cart that we used to use or more. Susan Young of Saddle Up Tack in Florida bought one soon after I got mine, so you could always check with her too. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] breakaway halters
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend that asked me where I got my breakaway halters. I have two older ones but bought one last year and I think I heard about the seller from this list. Can anyone help me? Ann Cassidy Bodega, CA The one that Magic uses is a BMB from Valley Vet and has brass buckles. The old ones I had for Magic and T were brass plated and the buckles soon got all corroded and yucky. I'll bring both Thursday to show you the difference. Maybe you wouldn't have quite as big a problem with the corrosion as I do... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Great deal on helmet
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're one of those people that a Tipperary helmet fits you, then Tack of the Day has a fantastic deal on them today for $39.50 - I haven't seen them cheaper than $60 before. I think the people that have round heads find they don't fit them as well but I love mine. So my head is too round for the Tipperary. I have a couple of friends that just swear by them. I tried one on and I think it was a large, which would seem to be the right size and it hurt. I couldn't wait to get it off. Troxel's Dakota has been my most comfortable helmet ever. I'm probably due for a new one as my is pretty old... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Appreciation
Thanks so much for the beautiful video, Judy. It brought tears to my eyes. I know I sometimes forget to thank people and will try to be better about it in the future! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Two Canadians Opt Out of Equestrian Olympics
On Jan 17, 2008 1:25 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How refreshing - kind - humane - generous. Nancy And I would add courageous to this list! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] bragur
On Jan 18, 2008 9:50 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nancy Barbara is very happy, the next step will probably be to drive him. He has been very tractable to anything asked of him. He is quite a handsome fellow too! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Sleeping husband/large puppy
On Jan 14, 2008 8:03 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best thing I ever did was buy a doggie door for our slider in the bedroom. do any critters ever come in?? My husband says with doggie doors you can get snakes and even raccoons. --I think that could be true, but we've never had a problem (yet!?!) The doggie door opens onto our sunroom and then they go out through that slider to the backyard (otherwise known as the dog yard) that has a 6 foot nonclimb horse fencing around it and about 6 inches of cement in the ground under it all the way around. The cement was originally because of a dog we had that liked to dig out of my other yard, so I had Gene put a trench around this one and then pour cement in it. Works quite well... We did have a raccoon get in the yard once when we were in Alaska and the house sitter came home to this huge commotion and when she walked around to the back, there was a raccoon up at the top of the fence and 4 dogs barking fiercely underneath it. She ran over and yelled at the raccoon and it jumped into the horse pasture and ran off. I figure any raccoon that goes into a yard with 4 dogs needs to be removed from the gene pool!?! Of course, maybe it climbed into the yard and then the dogs came racing out later... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Re: comfortable boots
On Jan 11, 2008 6:21 PM, Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ariat makes a really comfy wider toe box boot called the Iceberg (I think). It's lined with Thinsulate waterproof with a good non-slip tread for ice /mud. It's on sale in Dover Catalogue for $79.95. I'll have to check that out. I do like my Terrains. They are the only Ariats I've found that are comfortable for me. They others always seemed too narrow. I don't know why I kept buying them--must have a half dozen pair!?! Duh! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] The Ravishing Redheaded Runa
On Jan 13, 2008 11:00 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I thought the pictures showed her red color nicely, Well, duh, except that her color didn't show up so well in the photo after I compressed it for e-mail...nivver mind Karen Thomas, NC I think that the color looks quite nice, even if you think it isn't representative of her true gorgeousness!?! (I think I made up a couple of words... Ha) Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Correct Use
On Jan 6, 2008 6:28 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goodness, Karen, I don't know why on earth you never say what you really mean Yeah, I do need to work on saying what I really mean, and not just beating around the bush, don't you think? :) I had to laugh at you. It was a good thing you didn't say that on the USIHC list!!! I used to be fairly active on that list and someone said that the trail riders never took lessons or learned the correct way of doing things like the show people. That really set me off (I was MUCH milder than you were!?!) and I said that most of the trail riders I knew attended clinics and took lessons fairly often and shouldn't be looked down on by the show riders. Well, Andrea Barbour told me that my post was uncalled for and I should show more judgement in the future. I haven't been back to that list since... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] OT - Cesar's Way
Have you watched him? While lots of what he says is not too bad, his application is chocolate covered abuse in my opinion. The American Humane society considers that he has put back dog training 20 years. I should send your post to my daughter-in-law!!! Ha! She thinks the sun rises and sets on Cesar Millan. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] A card from Raven Flores
Raven Flores ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a Jacquie Lawson electronic greeting card. Very Cute! Thanks Raven. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] more winter photos
I love the way the light snow sits in the trees. Hopefully tomorrow will be like this and we will ride. Looks just beautiful. Almost makes me want to be there!?! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Vernon is in British Columbia about 5 hours east of Vancouver (the west coast) and 2 1/2 hours north of the US border - about 6 hours drive from Spokane. Probably a little far for you but you could ride one of our horses. Ha, Robyn, I have heard that story. I remember it took me over seven hours to get to your house from Vancouver. Or have they now straightened the road? Ann Cassidy and I drove up to Vernon from California pulling a horse trailer with our horses and had a grand time of it. We crossed the border further east than Vancouver though. We took 3 days for the trip, but spent most of the last day taking the horses to the vet for new Health Certificates and dealing with the Canadian and US Authorities. Be sure to ask us about the complexities of the Health Certificates, if you plan to bring your own horses... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] merry christmas
On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from us here in Wales! Mic Such a nice card, Mic! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] I've heard most if not all of these at one time or another
On Dec 19, 2007 12:17 PM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THINGS NOT TO SAY TO A HORSE OWNER: Riding isn't a sport, the horse does all the work. I'm sure most of us have heard more of these than we care to mention!?! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] crocs
On Dec 5, 2007 1:25 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/12/2007, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the kind that look like Crocs or the ones that look like clogs? Ann Both kinds, and I have a cute pair that looks like a pair of strappy sandals... Wanda I want the ones called Mammoth that have synthetic sheepskin inside. My regular beach ones are purple. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Did I enjoy Aftrica
On Nov 30, 2007 3:14 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kissing a giraffe is pretty much fun! Ann The middle pic is exactly as you described and my favorite!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] I did enjoy Africa!
On Nov 30, 2007 3:19 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rode the donkeys about 1/2 hour a day which helped. We went to one village where I was on a donkey and these Maasai ladies ran up to us all excited, my donkey went toward one and she ran away screaming and I thought she was afraid of the donkey. Turns out they had never seen white people before and it was me that terrified her. You didn't tell me you had frightened the natives!?! The donkeys look about the same size as Jack... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
On Nov 24, 2007 1:40 PM, IceDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is Cilia with the first born. Can I sleep now? It's been a Lng 60 hours! :o) What a darling! I do think you can deserve to sleep now! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Award / Renee
On Nov 19, 2007 8:36 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An award for Renee for showing nosebandless! Nice certificate! Kudos to Renee!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Pics of my trip to Hawaii-Founder myths
On Nov 18, 2007 12:02 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, that's not right. That's not what current research points to. Yes, feeding is a big part of the management of a horse at risk for laminitis, but the root cause of laminitis seems to be an internal cause. He had Cushing's and laminitis is a very common symptom of Cushing's, possibly one of the most common causes per the research I've read. Just how would you blame an owner for giving his/her horse Cushing's disease? You can't. Let's not just blame the owners, and keep people ashamed to talk about problems they didn't cause. That sort of thinking is not in the horses' best interest. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] My old Arab is Insulin Resistant and the vet says he may have Cushings too. She said to watch him very carefully and check his hooves in the mornings before I turn him out. She said he could get Laminitis very easily and it would not be anything I'm doing as I have him on a pretty low carb diet already... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Pics of my trip to Hawaii (RETRY)
On Nov 15, 2007 5:50 PM, kim shumaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll see if this works. Here is a pic of some of Skye and Sally's horses. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v334/creatorlover/?action=viewcurrent=Pic1311-1.jpg Looks like they would founder for sure with all that green! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Bolting
On Nov 14, 2007 9:11 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's taken a while, but he has learned that there's a time and a place for everything, as my mother used to tell us. Exactly. Our Arab seemed crazy, flighty and all sorts of the typical Arab-y descriptions when we first got him. The worst case I envision within Icelandic's is when someone takes one of these really quiet, slow horses and MAKES them goey out of fear and confusion. Yes, Arabs can be flighty and are more excitable than Icelandics--or at least they show more excitement... My main problem with my Arab was always that he wanted to go faster than I did most of the time. Other than that, he was always very obedient. My Icelandic, on the other hand, is quite stubborn at times and can be very frustrating in that he wants to go in a different direction from what I want on occasion, or go back to the barn, etc. and Peggy Cummings taught me to just stop him and sit there for 30 seconds or so and then try the turn or whatever again--which usually works. For me, much as I love him, I would say my Icelandic is more difficult to ride than my Arab ever was. It could be a difference in beginning training or something, of course, but he is not always easy to ride... I know I'll probably get a lot of slaps up the side of the head for saying this, but for me it is true. That is why I still take lessons a couple of times a month. We are constantly working on better communication... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Coverall
On Nov 9, 2007 8:10 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Virginia Does anyone have a Coverall riding arena and/or barn? They look like they'd be a nice, bright building for indoor riding. Just wondering about the cost, how people like them, etc. I didn't see anyone answer this but we have had one for 7 or 8 years. The one Robyn and Phil have is just great for riding, clinics, etc. I really enjoyed it when I was up there. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Question to The Horse magazine
On Nov 6, 2007 11:58 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure why this struck me so funny - maybe the last line of the postscript, where the owner responded to the vet's answer. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC Better her horse than one of mine!?! Ha Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Was Should I Mow? Now Horse Wire Fence
Trish - look at www.diamondmesh.com - they have some pics there and I have attached a picture someone sent in to one of the lists that shows this type of fencing. Was so surprised to see the picture of my place!!! It is from a ways back because Charlie (the bay Quarterhorse was put down summer of 2006.) My wire is Red Brand NonClimb horse wire, 2 X 4 mesh. At the time, it cost about $100 a roll (5' x 100' rolls). Ferne Fedeli Mendocino County, No. CA
Re: [IceHorses] Horse wire
On 11/1/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This section of our horse wire fence is almost 20 years old, and still going strong - with the original posts and sight boards. 2 pastures and around the barn dates from 1998 and the other 2 pastures are a year or so newer. I live right near the ocean and so have some rust, but not too bad so far. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] horse wire
On 11/1/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one of those stupid pictures I should have deleted long ago, but it shows the detail of the horse wire. Karen Thomas, NC This looks just like my wire. This is great for keeping out the dogs too, which would be a problem at my place! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] blanketing an Icelandic
On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blanket mine in the winter after riding when they are still wet. I mostly use sheets but also really like the Baker blankets. I do a full body clip on mine the end of Sept or first of Oct. Renee The only time I blanket is in the winter when it is cold outside, but Magic is sweaty from riding, taking a lesson, etc. I use one of those crochet-looking cooling sheets that I originally bought for my Arab. It is a little big on Magic, but does the job. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Was Should I Mow? Now Horse Wire Fence
Was so surprised to see the picture of my place!!! It is from a ways back because Charlie (the bay Quarterhorse was put down summer of 2006.) Ferne - I saved it because I thought it was a great example of that type of wire fence Well, yes, I sent it in response to some prior fencing discussion. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] summer activities
On 10/26/07, Penelope Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For something to alleviate the distress of the news from S Ca, I thought it would be fun to send photos of places where Drifa and I have gone lately. Here we are in Point Reyes, California. Penny Nice pic. I've ridden all over the place at Point Reyes, but not at the beach! Of course I can ride on the beach near home, so no biggy. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Manure
On 9/28/07, IceDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a Newer Spreader and put it back on your pastures. Oh, that looks good--I'll have to read the whole site. Do you have one? V I don't have one. But it's near the top of my want list! My friend had one and they're handy, easy to use and well made. She loved hers. I've can't think of anyone that has had anything but good things to say about them. Cheryl I have had one for years and really like it. Susan Young of Saddleup Tack has one too. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Sundowner Trailer - One of a Kind
On 10/7/07, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cute...one of a kind Sundowner Trailer http://tinyurl.com/2h94yx Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Looks like some kind of clone of a Brenderup! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn Update 9/25
On 9/24/07, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just a short update on Huginn. There are days...that I think he is 100% back to himself and then there are days that I see a few problems. For the most part he is doing so much better, but he is still having some issues swallowing. So great to hear, Raven. Gene and I went horse camping last week at a place in Magalia (Sierra Foothills) called Doon Grade Ranch. Had a really great time. Only 7 miles from town, so I didn't have to cook!!! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Foxes/Coyotes
On 9/10/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hiking up on our mountain once and looked down on the flat farm land below us There were two coyotes pouncing and playing chasing some kind of rodent and two deer grazing calmly quite near them. I know coyotes kill fawns, but the adult deer were not worried at all. Nancy Our neighborhood coyotes were having some sort of celebration last night. They were singing or calling or yipping back and forth most of the night. Haven't heard so many of them in a long time. We're leaving for a horse camping trip tomorrow. I wonder if there will be coyotes up there in the Sierra foothills? Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Newbie Owners
On 9/3/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a pony as a kid, who taught me nothing except how to stay on surface. I think I'll always be a newbieand I am beginning to not mind it. There is always something new that I'm interested in knowing about. Wanda, I feel like you. The great fun with horses is always learning something new. When my son said something about why was I always taking lessons because I already knew how to ride, my granddaughter said that now I was learning the subtle stuff and I thought that was a great comment! Anyway, now I'm having fun teaching little basic things to my donkey. I never had a young equid that wasn't even halter broke before and am finding it fun to teach him stuff. ( We haven't gotten even close to subtle stuff yet!) He thinks the halter is fine and thought a fly mask was fine too, UNTIL I went to take it off! That Velcro ripping noise scared him to death. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Random note on hay bale weights, etc.
On 9/7/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sure was a leap of faith for us - we'd never ordered a tractor-trailer load of hay before, sight unseen. I think hay is a problem almost everywhere this year. I don't have a lot of space to store hay in my barn. Probably about 4 ton would be the max in my hayroom and then it would be hard to get at, so I usually order 20 bales at a time from a fairly local feed store (1 hour north of here) and paid $15.50 a bale for the last load of Orchard Grass!!! As it happened, Gene had just bought some Oat hay from a local guy and said I should try some for the horses. They just loved it, so I called my vet and said was it okay with her to mix Oat with the grass for my guys and she said fine ( my old guy has Thyroid and insulin probs...). Anyway the $15.50 a bale stuff is about 140 lb bales and the Oat for $5 a bale is less than half that weight, but guess it all evens out. You guys pay a lot less, but have smaller bales... (The farmer we bought the Oat from said he has lots stored in him barn and just come get more when we need it. Yippee!)
Re: [IceHorses] The Icelandic Horse's Image
On 9/3/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We carry a stick when we ride, doesn't mean we whip them but giving a tap on the shoulder is better than excessive use of leg or wearing spurs IMO. What is the problem with carrying a stick, crop, whip??? I have to laugh about the whole whip issue. Our horses and donkey, for that matter, just know that if I come out of the barn with a whip in my hand they had better get going out to the pasture, back to their runs, or whatever. I rarely carry one when riding, although I did for years with my Arab. As long as I carried it, he knew he had to keep moving, etc. even though I never ever did more than a tap... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Oat Hay
Maybe you got really green oat hay before the grain heads came in? You should still see some seed heads in the yellow oat hay, otherwise you are just paying for straw. It was years ago I got some green Oat Hay. It was one of those times that I got a delivery when I wasn't home and when I called the supplier, he said it should be just fine, but it wasn't... A moot point, since we can't seem to get Oat hay anymore anyway... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Zimba
On 7/30/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a video of Elisabeth and Zimba. I thought some of the listees who have offspring from Zimba might enjoy seeing this video. It's at the bottom of the page: http://iceryder.net/videoelisabeth.html When were these taken? I tried to look at them to see how Elisabeth looked, since I haven't seen her for several years now. Since I have dialup, I don't get very far with the videos. Where were these taken? E looks nice and tan. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Oat Hay
I just happened to think of something else. Unlike grass hay, that you want to be green, you do not want Oat hay to be green. It means that it isn't seasoned yet and the horses won't eat it. It should be a nice yellow color. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Oat Hay
On 7/23/07, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know anything about oat hay? Has anyone ever fed it? I was told it was higher fiber hay - is that a bunch of bull? -- Laree I always used Oat Hay for many, many years (No. California), but then as more and more people started using grass hay, it seems to have sort of disappeared. My hay guy said that everyone is planting grass now because it is so much in demend for the horse world. Oat hay used to grow well over here at the coast where I live, but none of the local guys are planting it any more. Our horses always liked it. I suppose it is probably a little higher in carbs than grass, but quite a bit less than Alfalfa. I haven't used it for 2 or 3 years now... Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Equine Motor Coach
On 6/14/07, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! I have always wondered why no one ever came up with this idea and now...someone has. I would love one. http://www.equinemotorcoach.com/ Raven Somehow I imagine they are priced beyond my budget!?! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] A New Treatment for Cribbers
On 5/28/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many a day I have sat on a bale of hay and wonder why in the world my horse would just stand there and crib. Why do cribbers crib? Crib or scar, you decide. Interesting! Gene's Appy started cribbing when I took my Icelandic (his pasturemate) to Canada for a month. We use a cribbing collar at times, which works well, but we don't do it consistently. I would hate to have surgery for what seems like such a trivial thing. I guess it can cause a lot of problems down the line though. Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Helmets again--Tipperary
On 6/4/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - my head is egg-shaped and a little flatter on one side. The Tipperary is the first helmet I've ever been comfortable in. Nancy I must be the lone dissenter! I've tried Tipperary helmets on several times and they just felt uncomfortable to me. Maybe it is the shape of my head. I'm a Troxel Dakota fan myself. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Busy Horse Feed Bag
On 5/25/07, Ferne Fedeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's Cookie, with her new feed bag which helps stretch out her meal. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com Oops. I'm using my friend's laptop and am rather klutzy! That looks like a neat feeder. Where did you get it and what brand is it?
Re: [IceHorses] Luke and the Kids
On 5/10/07, Sue McKenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally uploaded something to YouTube. Now onto the horses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLrNugqWW2g Sue Hm. Guess it doesn't work with dialup or something. I did see Luke on the ground with the goat on him--guess that's the first frame... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Long shank snaffle
On 5/10/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a long shank snaffle for sale on e-Bay Item # 170110318813 I always thought if it had a shank, it wasn't a snaffle. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Bill and Ben
On 5/11/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposedly the world's oldest horse twins, still alive: Where are they located? Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] icelandic naming
On 4/25/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have to have an icelandic name? As I understand it, you have to have an icelandic name; and that if you tried to register Elvis from Florida, it would be rejected, as not an Icelandic name. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com I just consider the registered name as an official requirement that had nothing to do with what I called my horse. So S.C. Frami became Magic and has remained so. For the first couple of years I had him, I sometimes had to stop and think about what his registered name was when someone asked!?! Ferne PS Many registered horses of other breeds are called by their barn names, so I see no reason why we can't do the same with Icelandics. Remington is a good example of a well-known Icelandic called by his barn name.
Re: [IceHorses] Wear Your Helmet
On 5/2/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that! It's the best helmet, comfortable, and doesn't make you look like a bubblehead! I could buy about 15-20 Troxels for that! I'm a Troxel fan too. They are way more comfortable for me than the Tipperary. Maybe our head are shaped differently. (All those brains!!!) Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Western Saddles
You might want to try Dave Genedek's site aboutthehorse.com. He has cordura saddles available and an excellent saddle fit video. Trish Does Dave have some saddles that will fit Icelandics now? A few years back he told me that he didn't have anything short enough for an Icelandic. Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Breaking News - PET FOOD RECALL
On 3/30/07, ToltallyICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melamine has been found in effected dogs. ABC News is apparently now saying the numbers thought to be 1000 or more are now believed to possibly be 10 times that. Cheryl It just goes on and on. I use Wysong, AvoDerm and Royal Canin and haven't seen their brand mentioned anywhere as yet. Hope we're safe.! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] They will need a treeless saddle for this one!
On 3/26/07, Sue McKenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baby born three days ago at the farm down the street from me! Sue How darling! We have a new calf here that we are bottle feeding (the mother died) and all the horses (and the donkey) and just fascinated! Ferne
[IceHorses] Susanna featured in USIHC Quarterly!
Our very own trainer, Susanna Widrig, is featured in the new issue of the USIHC Quarterly magazine! It is a nice article. Pretty exciting for those of us that think she is so great! Evidently the wider world had heard of her too. Ferne Fedeli No. California
Re: [IceHorses] Cotton roping reins on ebay - in colors!
I have a pair of driving reains made out of this and I love them but is there a way to attach the reins to the bit without the metal clips - I don't like to use them because I think a lot of horses don't like the vibration of the metal on metal. -- Laree I bought some leather bit keepers from Saddleuptack and had my shoe repair guy rivet them together around my bit rings and I fasten the reins to them. Works just great! Ferne Fedeli
Re: [IceHorses] Cookie in the Arena
On 3/25/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a picture of Cookie in the arena today. Judy Nice pic of Cookie! Ferne
