Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. Thinking about using my 1400 for a water catcher for a plant since not one person from the swap list has any interest in buying the parts at any price. The 7X00 Macs are good weight but too big to make good doorstops. However if a trial of their weight holding capacity bears fruit I will not need to buy jack stands for working on the van. The blueberry iMac has me stumped though. i don't know what to do with it. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I understand that. I have no idea what you're replying to, since you didn't quote anything. Josh __ The prior post. Obviously, any reply refers to some prior post. I was referring to the *content* of the post. Gmail keeps posts in an easy to reference thread. And easy to delete when the thread runs out. ( or any time as needed) I'm familiar with GMail's Web interface. Not everybody uses GMail, and not every GMail user uses the Web interface. I use GMail through an IMAP client. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: [Malcolm's original comment about the transition from OS 9 to OS X being a breeze for all users omitted in his reply] Oh, was it? Because that's not how I remember it. I knew someone would say that. What's that supposed to mean? You knew in advance someone would provide a counterexample, and you went ahead and said it anyway? If you're not inclined to say I stand corrected or the like you *do* have the option of just not replying. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
[Malcolm's original comment about the transition from OS 9 to OS X being a breeze for all users omitted in his reply] Not what I said. What's that supposed to mean? That every posted opinion is promptly contradicted. If you're not inclined to say I stand corrected I stand contradicted. you *do* have the option of just not replying. Or of unsubscribing. It's been a slice. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. Maybe to read old, old files and screen shots from the '90s that modern software cannot convert or even to see and read. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
A quick check with Mactracker says that it's not PCI. The 6100 has either a PDS slot, or a NuBus slot. Neither of which are compatible with PCI cards. I doubt that there ever were any wireless cards made for PDS or Nubus. -Elliott On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: For some strange reason my PC expansion card slots are not accepting ANYTHING. I try to put a basic wireless card in it the RIGHT way, and some spring is pushing against it to keep it out on the top slot. On the bottom slot, it won't go all the way in. What's happening here? There is no stuff inside, everything is okay, and fine. I need help on this. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is: the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
My oldest machine can't even run Jaguar. My oldest machine is the Powerbook 540c. It has a 33Mhz 68k Motorola 680LC40 processor. This is my VERY fisr mac with a non-PowerPC processor. Last summer was when I received my first non- G3-5 based PowerPC 603e machine. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is: the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Sent from my iMac G4 1.25Ghz It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose it. -Me -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote: My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is: the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard... I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to take notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces potential distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in class. I'm a big believer in the usefulness of old computers. My PowerBook 145b has one of the most comfortable laptop keyboards I have ever used, and my Apple //c has taught me more about programming than any modern tutorials, though Basic is certainly not as useful as some of the more modern languages. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I agree with steven. I also believe in older computers, and sometimes I bring in my PB 5300cs for reminders, notes, phone numbers, and song names. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote: My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is: the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard... I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to take notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces potential distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in class. I'm a big believer in the usefulness of old computers. My PowerBook 145b has one of the most comfortable laptop keyboards I have ever used, and my Apple //c has taught me more about programming than any modern tutorials, though Basic is certainly not as useful as some of the more modern languages. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Sent from my iMac G4 1.25Ghz It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose it. -Me -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 4:13 pm, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to take notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces potential distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in class. The only drawback of the Wallstreet is that it weighs a ton and a half. Personally, though, I don't really mind the weight that much --I used to have a Macbook and a 17 PowerBook, and I would always left the MB home and lug the PB around. And I simply love the sheer solidness of it --it's like the Sherman tank of laptops. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Oh, was it? Because that's not how I remember it. I knew someone would say that. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Well, judging my the course of technological expansion over the past few years, we should start seeing 128-bit computers around 2016, and commonly around 2024. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
That isn't too far away you know. 2016 is only 5 years from now, and 2014 is only 13. It's almost 2011, the year of the touchscreen and touchpad. let's see what will go on. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
The CHINESE market, India, Brazil, etc will determine what develops, because they are the expanding market of the future.. like by 2012. And judging by the way that the Chinese do their OWN companies to overmatch the American companies -- with blow away pricing and maybe questionable quality by our own standards, the future of MACs could be radically off the trendlines. American fatcats moving their operations to those expanding markets may have a rude awakening when the all-Chinese competitors eat them up. TTYL, and preparing to HOLD ON TIGHT TO MY MACS, Snow iMac and G4, not to mention the string of Windows ancestry from Windows98Aptiva to the Chrome/Windows8/Gateway and in between.. all customized to their special matched needs/abilities. MJ On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: That isn't too far away you know. 2016 is only 5 years from now, and 2014 is only 13. It's almost 2011, the year of the touchscreen and touchpad. let's see what will go on. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 28, 7:16 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Dual boot: Ubuntu 10.10 with: Mac OS X 10.5.8 It sounds good to me. The latest Ubuntu/Xubuntu releases are very Macs OS'ish, by the way. I tried the latest Xubuntu release on a G3 800Mhz iBook, and it ran perfect. So full-fledged Ubuntu should fly on your G5. Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
New Mac platform (was: Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On 29/10/10 10:26PDT, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/28 17:16, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Actually, Ubuntu dropped official support for PPC several versions ago, but the community has taken up the slack. Debian has official support for PPC, and so does YellowDog and a few other variants. There will come a day when Apple stops supporting 10.5 and then PPC users will have to decide if they want to continue without any further security updates or if they want to change platforms. http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php With Apple now making their own chips, perhaps we'll see a new Mac platform that DOESN'T have Intel Inside. I refuse to purchase any Mac from Apple that uses Intel. If Apple doesn't start using their own chips, then at least they should use AMD chips so as not to support the Intel monopoly. Even better might be for Apple to use some of their pocket change and buy AMD; that would really block the Intel/Microsoft monopolists. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac platform (was: Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I agree, but at the same time I suggest doing this: The Apple A4 chip should be standardized for all mobile platforms (except laptops), while Apple should go back to the PowerPC, but have a different name and a new generation, like the PowerPC G5 v2, or the PowerPC G6, or the Core G6... I love the PowerPC platform and will never give it up. I sorta refuse to buy an intel mac too. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 29, 2:27 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. Yep. You gotta read the tutorials and format the HDD according to instructions prior to installing it. It's not as easy as installing Mac OS X, I'm afraid. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I understand that. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Steven wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I'm not going to defend the way Apple has gone from extremely long product support to extremely short over the past few years, but your logic isn't quite right. The 1984 Macintosh was technically a 32 bit computer, and while I would love to have one for my collection, it is in no way useful for 90% of the things you could do with the newest 32 bit computers (except, of course, word processing, where the lack of internet and multimedia capabilities give it a huge advantage). The G5 series is still a very useful line of machines, but they are getting older, and just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they will never be obsolete. Secondly, according to what I understand about 8/16/32/64/128 bit computing technologies, there won't be 128 bit home computers for a very very long time, since they don't offer much improvement over 64 bit for most purposes. Also, you can clearly see the trend in the history of home computing: 8 bit was common in the late 1970s before it was replaced by 16 bit PC compatibles in the early 1980s, then 32 bit became common in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and it wasn't until the past few years that 64 bit became really common. based on that, 128 bit home computers probably won't show up for another 20 or 30 years. Of course, lately companies have been jumping at any chance to purposely obsolete a device or technology, so I could be wrong. That's why I'm not going to bother with 128-bit computers. I'll just wait until 256-bit comes out. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On 2010/10/29 16:07, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote: On Oct 29, 2:27 pm, Mystic Prowlercoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. Yep. You gotta read the tutorials and format the HDD according to instructions prior to installing it. It's not as easy as installing Mac OS X, I'm afraid. Every time I've installed K/Ubuntu formatting the disc has been part of the installation process which creates a boot partition map. K/Ubuntu has gotten better over the years and now it's almost effortless. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have a question The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Dual boot: Ubuntu 10.10 with: Mac OS X 10.5.8 My own observation of Linux is that no matter how confidant you are with it sharing a disk or letting it see other disks will eventually result in making the other OS unusabale and in need of a nuke and pave. YMMV but this is 20 years of observation. I don't trust it to know it's place. Actually I think it just invites human error. Which, given all the ways for it to happen is a wide open invite. But life is meaningless without challenge, right? Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Well, judging my the course of technological expansion over the past few years, we should start seeing 128-bit computers around 2016, and commonly around 2024. A wider highway is one way to get a faster traffic flow and more cars to the destination. A wider bandwidth is one way to get more throughput. ( for you who were about to point out that you did not like my analogy ) But faster traffic will do the same. Anyway this new predictive logic technology that is said to be on the market within a short time is supposed to be a 1000 times faster ( don't flame me I'm only the messenger) It's in the latest CPU magazine. What they talk about comes to pass at a high degree of probability. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Oct 29, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I understand that. I have no idea what you're replying to, since you didn't quote anything. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. I took a trip to the jurrasic today, and found my PowerBook 5300cs sitting on my desk. I recently got a new battery for it, so it is a little more useful than it used to be. To think of it, although the hard drive space is small, I can still store names of sings on it, contacts, and light stuff. I never got around to getting my 5300cs on the web, but i did get my Power Mac 6100 on the web. For some strange reason my PC expansion card slots are not accepting ANYTHING. I try to put a basic wireless card in it the RIGHT way, and some spring is pushing against it to keep it out on the top slot. On the bottom slot, it won't go all the way in. What's happening here? There is no stuff inside, everything is okay, and fine. I need help on this. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I have a question The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Dual boot: Ubuntu 10.10 with: Mac OS X 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I'm not going to defend the way Apple has gone from extremely long product support to extremely short over the past few years, but your logic isn't quite right. The 1984 Macintosh was technically a 32 bit computer, and while I would love to have one for my collection, it is in no way useful for 90% of the things you could do with the newest 32 bit computers (except, of course, word processing, where the lack of internet and multimedia capabilities give it a huge advantage). The G5 series is still a very useful line of machines, but they are getting older, and just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they will never be obsolete. Secondly, according to what I understand about 8/16/32/64/128 bit computing technologies, there won't be 128 bit home computers for a very very long time, since they don't offer much improvement over 64 bit for most purposes. Also, you can clearly see the trend in the history of home computing: 8 bit was common in the late 1970s before it was replaced by 16 bit PC compatibles in the early 1980s, then 32 bit became common in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and it wasn't until the past few years that 64 bit became really common. based on that, 128 bit home computers probably won't show up for another 20 or 30 years. Of course, lately companies have been jumping at any chance to purposely obsolete a device or technology, so I could be wrong. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Dave wrote: Gosh, folks, is this what they mean by the Apple tax? No, the 'Apple Tax' is a sarcastic term used by Windows trolls to complain that Macs cost more than Dells, even though comparably equipped Dells usually cost just as much. (or morecost out what a Mac Pro costs in the equivalent Dell model...hint: you won't find it in the 'desktop' section; look in the 'workstation' section. ) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Apples are the best computers I have and will ever use. I have no need for anything else. As long as Apple stays on tack, i'm happy. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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My bad, on track, not tack. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: My bad, on track, not tack. Hmm, at first I thought it was a NEW theological argument: How many Apples can balance on the head of a tack? 8-P -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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cool I am getting an 867Mhz 15 Powerbook G4 next week... =) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, Please tell us more before we go out and buy one of them. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
well it was news to me.. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- The only things that government “makes” are criminals out of innocent people, and corpses out of living human beings. - If the First Amendment fails, use the Second one. - *We're all Arizonans now. Sara**h Palin* -- *earth turns to gold in the hands of the wise* - Rum -- (The Life Buffet: take what you want, leave what you don't.) --- The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. Thomas Jefferson - WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency (NSA) may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse, nor protection.. IF anyone other than the addressee of this e-mail is reading it, you are in violation of the 1st 4th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X But see, that switch was mostly painless for users. This reaps them mucho good will from many people (such as me). In fact, there were 3 enormous changes over the years: 1. 68xxx to PowerPC 2. OSArabic numeral to OSRoman numeral 3. PowerPC to Intel ALL of these were achieved with hardly a bump to non-tech users. Amazing! Compare and contrast this with non-tech Windows users who start out screwed and get screwed over again every time ANYTHING happens. For this I had boundless respect for Apple. And just before Enormous Change 3, I bought my iMac. EC3 did not really bump me. And I was thrown under the bus with such alacrity and finality that it made my head spin. :P But they still haven't squandered all my good will. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Malcom 'o Brian, you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines you know, I have 2. One is a 17 1.25Ghz that WAS a 1Ghz but had it's logic board replaced because of an unknown reason. My second iMac G4 is identical to yours except it is a 15 screen, and it's internal IDE Bus failed. It is running fine now with an external 300GB Firewire drive. Another iMac saved =) The previous owner of my iMac 800 said Whenever I think of that iMac, I think of problems. Now, this iMac is free or problems because of me! the only problem was the IDE failure. I gave someone $30 and a GeForce 256MB 6200 AGP card on craigslist, and they gave me this external drive. Nice and speedy iMac, only now it has over 3.5x it's original 80GB storage capacity. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Being a PPC user, 10.7 Lion has no bearing on my computing experience. At least not until I can afford an Intel Mac, which is years away. But the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be another of several incremental steps toward 64 bit that began with 10.4 Tiger? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR 10.10 Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I am okay with PowerPC macs for now... mostly because leo is still supported. They are fast, don't get me wrong. Especially my iMac G5. I turned the energy saver option to Best for performance, and this machine roars louder than my G4 machines combined. I do need a new MBA, though. A good 15 Powerbook G4 should do, as long as it can run leopard. I hate those small screens on them smaller powerbooks and ibooks. I am one of those people who need large screened laptops. ___ iMac G4 1.25 17, iMac G4 800 15, iMac G5 1.8 20, iMac G3 600, iMac G3 350, iMac G3 350, iMac BB 233, G3 Gossamer, G4 sawtooth, G4 sawtooth #2, eMac 700, G4 cube 450, Powerbook 5300cs, Powerbook 540c, PM 6100, and some others i can't name... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
At 4:46 PM -0600 10/27/2010, Tina K. wrote: the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be another of several incremental steps toward 64 bit that began with 10.4 Tiger? IF Apple goes with a pure 64-bit kernel in Lion THEN they will have to: a) cut off more Macs at the lower end (those that cannot do a 64-bit boot). b) cut off a lot of 3rd party peripherals and cards that still haven't been updated to have 64-bit drivers. Doing (a) is pretty much what we've come to expect from Apple with each OS release. Doing (b) is, well, also par for the course. Apple has never given a rats a** for the 3rd party products they blow off with each OS release. Now, Apple could retain the 32-bit boot capability, and thus protect the end-user's investment in x86 Macs. But L'Jobs has never cared about anything like that in the past, so... Note please that some Macs have a 32-bit EFI. That does not preclude them from booting a 64-bit kernel OS, however. This is an artificial limitation put in place by Apple. Likewise, there are some MacBooks that *do* have 64-bit EFI and yet still cannot boot 64-bit Snow Leopard... I expect there's a tech note that lists which Macs are or are not permitted to do a 64-bit boot. Anyone have that link? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines Yup, I love mine! Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. Instead, I use my PC desktop, PC notebook or iPod Touch. When my 80GB drive was getting full, I replaced it with a 500GB that I installed myself. Had no idea what I'd find on the inside but figured, How hard could it be? Used Carbon Copy Cloner to move everything from the 80 to the 300 (using an Ultra USB/FW external enclosure) and there was not issue one. :) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Apparently it works well even on the faster G4s. www.YouTube.com/html5 -Elliott On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Yes, from info given here. Two results: 1) It's better. But it's a better sequence of still pictures. :( 2) You only get HTML5 *IF* the video doesn't have an ad on it and there are only a small number of those. So, effectively, it's not better enough to make it usable. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 25, 2:26 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, and a lot of people will hate it, but Lion is going to be a looker... :-) -- __ SSShh! IXNAY on the inofay ! Apple wants it to be a surprise. Many of those machines are not paid off yet. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Oct 25, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: SSShh! IXNAY on the inofay ! Apple wants it to be a surprise. Many of those machines are not paid off yet. If you haven't paid for a $1200 computer you bought in 2006 in four years, you have bigger worries than upgrading to 10.7... -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Gosh, folks, is this what they mean by the Apple tax? On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Ah, but all of that model were not sold at the beginning of the production run but some toward the end. The models in question were produced only from January 2006 to November 2006. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 26, 12:24 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: And also Bruce you are thinking like a person with a steady income and no job interruptions, family emergencies or such things as medical bills. Amen to that. (In two months, I'll be done with my 2008 medical bills --hooray!) F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Okay okay... I read it a while ago too... but don't be so hard on me. I thought some didn't know. please close this discussion. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 25, 2:26 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, and a lot of people will hate it, but Lion is going to be a looker... :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 and can only go to OS X 10.6. My G4 sawtooth has a wide range of operating systems... Mac OS 8.6-Mac OS X 10.5.8 some later lower end core duo machines shipped with leopard I do think it is not going to be a list of unsupported processors, but more of a bold statement of obsoleteness. It's not just core duo and all of the early intel macs that will have no more support, but I think that Apple is dropping support basically for ALL 32-bit intel macs. I don't understand My iMac G5 is 64-bit but Apple doesn't support it anymore. If they make (It won't happen, though for a FACT) a version of OS X 10.7 for G5's only, then i would be happy. because OS X 10.6 is all about optimization and 64-bit stuff. G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 and can only go to OS X 10.6. I don't see any reason to assume that Lion will drop support for early Intel processors. The three year life of the final PowerPC Macs (2006 to Snow Leopard in 2009) was unprecedented. Even the G3 processor required by the final release version of Mac OS X in 2001 allowed four year old Power Macintosh computers from 1997 to run the new software. While I don't necessarily like it, I do understand why they dropped support, and now that the software is all-Intel there is no reason that the next two or three releases would need to drop support (once again, consider early OS X - support for the systems remained exactly the same (any G3 processor) from the earliest builds in the late 1990s to the release of Panther in late 2003, and by the time Tiger was at the end of its life in 2007, system compatibility went back eight years to the 1999 PowerMac G3). They may increase the RAM requirement, and from the video demonstrations it will require a Magic Mouse or multitouch trackpad, but I think the processors are probably safe. OS X 10.6 is all about optimization and 64-bit stuff. G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them? They dropped support for G5 because it is an entirely different architecture. Just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they are in any way similar to Intel chips, and keeping software up to date for two completely different architectures causes programs to become bloated with unnecessary code. While I still prefer PowerPC and wish I could use some of Snow Leopard's features on my PowerBook G4, I understand why they did it. Apple is trying to move away from PowerPC and force software developers to design for Intel processors, and they are trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X, where even years after everyone had moved on many programs, including some of Apple's own, were still built with the tools originally meant to serve only as a step between OS 9 and OS X. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On 25/10/10 13:24PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote: G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them? Because Apple wants to sell you ANOTHER muti-thousand dollar computer. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On 25/10/10 15:44PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote: I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. I have a G5 as my main desktop. However, I can't justify getting a new computer unless it croaks beyond recovery. My secondary computer was a G4 PowerBook, but it has been pretty much superseded by my iPad. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. Personally I wouldn't want that. In my experience, the laptop should always have lower specifications than the desktop. When I first switched to Mac I used an iBook G4 as my main computer for three years, and it is not something I want to do again. I have found that my ideal setup is a reasonably powerful desktop and an older laptop. For example, right now I have a 20 Intel iMac, and if I wanted to upgrade my 17 PowerBook G4 to a 17 MacBook Pro, my only option would be the very first model, since it has the same specifications as my desktop. If I got a more powerful MacBook Pro, or one with the 1920x1200 screen, I would start using the laptop more than the desktop, and then I would be back fighting with the limitations of having a laptop as my main computer. That's why my plan is to upgrade to a 27 iMac in about a year and possibly get an older used MacBook Pro sometime after that. Of course, with all the limitations of the MacBook Air it probably wouldn't be so easy to use it as a main computer, but there would definitely be a speed increase from PowerPC to Intel which would make you want to use it more often. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
