Re: [lace] List quiet?

[Beth Marshall]

Busy knitting lace...I've just finished one lace shawl which I'll wear 
to my birthday party on Saturday, and started another. I'm enjoying my 
copy of Lace, too, but don't think I've got time to make a lace poppy 
before Remembrance Day. My lace pillow only comes out for high days and 
holidays since I went back to work full time...


It's my birthday today and I received a lovely surprise present from two 
(non-lacemaking) friends: a copy of Santina Levy's Lace - A History, 
beautifully presented in a card slipcase. The parcel arrived a couple of 
days ago and I've been wondering whatever could be in such a heavy box. 
I remember coveting this book when it first came out, but couldn't 
afford it then, it's so nice to have been given it for a special birthday.


Is everyone else busy making lace? Or just busy?

Beth

Cheshire, NW England, where we've had a beautiful sunny day but 
cloud/rain returned by home time. Not one but 2 herons fishing along the 
river behind the office this morning, though, so definitely a good day



Janice wrote:

It is 6 days since I received a digest.  Is everyone busy making lace? 
What are you all doing?Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com



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Re: [lace] Jacquard technology

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Devon

I'm not an expert, but I believe the term Jacquard refers to a weaving 
method rather than specifically to the equipment/technology used to make 
it. So if the computer-controlled lace machines manipulate the threads 
the same way the old punch-card Jacquard machines did, they are Jaquard 
machines,


Jaquard Weave itself probably predates the punch-card operated Jacquard 
looms first used to mass-produce it, and the 19th/early 20th century 
punch-card operated Jacquard machines were a predecessor of modern 
computers - my software developer husband still has a pile of punch 
cards from when all computers were programmed that way (only about 40 
years ago).


Beth

NW England


On 30/08/18 16:06, Devon Thein wrote:

Previously, lacemaking machines were run on Jacquard technology in
which the movement of the machine was directed by punched cards. Now I
believe that most lacemaking machines are run on computer technology.
But, would the computer version still be called Jacquard technology,
or is the physical presence of punched cards required to use the term
Jacquard technology?
We are doing some editing on labels for the exhibit and I am unsure
whether a statement implying that all lacemaking machines are run on
Jacquard technology is correct.
Devon

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[lace] New Year Greetings

[Beth Marshall]

Happy New Year to all fellow lace-makers, and to our lace collectors & 
historians


May 2018 bring you plenty of time for lace-making/collecting/research

My big lace pillow came out last night (first time since last winter, as 
my autumn lace time was spent on a separate piece for our Christmas 
exchange), managed to get in a couple of hours work on the Michel Jourde 
cat I'm making before the table was needed for festive nibbles. Hoping 
to do some more on it later today - it's 9am here now & I need a walk to 
shake off the cobwebs/work off those nibbles first.


Best wishes


Beth

In a slightly grey and chilly Cheshire, NW England - but at least it's 
not raining at the moment, better get that walk in before the darker 
clouds gather again.


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Re: [lace] Fwd: Life in Olney -lace to make while saying tells

[Beth Marshall]

Devon, do you have access to a copy of Pam Nottingham's "Technique of 
Buck Point Lacemaking"?


The first of the "nine narrow edgings" she starts with, Running River, 
fits the bill perfectly - easy-peasy to anyone with bobbin lace 
experience, and authentic to boot! Quote: "This version of Running River 
is an ideal pattern for a newcomer to Bucks Point lace; in the past it 
was made frequently by the younger children"


(the book is still in copyright but as the pattern itself is traditional 
I would be happy to scan & email the pricking, but not the instructions, 
if you don't have a copy)


If running river is too easy, one the next few patterns in that chapter 
would be suitable



Devon wrote:

Supposing that I want to do a bit of performance art at the Brooklyn Lace
Guild’s St. Catherine’s Day party. Supposing I want to make a historically
correct pattern while chanting a tell to see if I can make lace as fast as an
early 19th century child. I would need a pattern that I could work quickly,
and learn quickly, something that a child in Olney might make.
Suggestions?



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Re: [lace] Testing whether Italics will process on Arachne's Old Server

[Beth Marshall]

Now that is strange - on my PC the alt-code characters were scrambled in 
Bev's original message, but appear as intended in the quoted message in 
Adele's reply :-)


Go figure...

Beth
In a rather soggy Cheshire, NW England - heavy rain most of the day has 
given way to a sunshine-and-showers evening



On 08/06/17 18:18, Adele Shaak wrote:

Thanks, Bev, for the reminder of the plain text usage. Anybody old enough to 
have grappled with e-mail in its early days will remember this usage, and it 
does work quite well, though not as pretty as actual bolding and italics.

Now, I really must see if Alt-3 makes a heart; on my Apple “Alt” is Shift + 
Option, so Shit-Option-3 gives me: ‹  Rats. Just a pointy thing. On the other 
hand, Apple gives me a couple of different ways to make a little apple: 

Adele
in not-as-warm-as-yesterday very rainy West Vancouver, BC,



A way to indicate them in plain text is as follows:
An asterisk at either end of text is *italics*.
Two asterisks at either end, **bold**
An underscore at either end, _underline_

Some online chat-rooms will convert the * ** and _  to the real thing.

Another test: I'm wondering, if I use alt-codes, if other non-English
letters show up, such as
the  c in Alençon, the o of Tønder, the u in Cantù
If not, I'm sorry about the garble...

If I press Alt-3, will you all see a little heart ♥
If not, here it is in text <3

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Re: [lace] Lace magazine

[Beth Marshall]

I'm in the UK & I received mine a week or two ago, so those of you 
overseas should receive yours soon
Sorry I've not had time to post a review to whet your appetites (not 
even had time to finish reading it yet) - it will be well worth the wait


Beth
in Cheshire (NW England)

Jean wrote:

October is the last issue I received.
Jean Reardon, Pennsylvania

On Feb 14, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Celtic Dream Weaver  
wrote:

  Has anybody gotten their Lace Magazine? I haven't gotten the Jan. issue yet
so I am curious. Wind To Thy Wings,SherryNew York, US of
Americacelticdreamweave@yahoo.comhttp://celticdreamweaver.com/http://celticdr
eamweave.blogspot.com/Nata 616



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[lace] Arachne Flicker page

[Beth Marshall]

Many thanks to Clay & Sue for maintaining the Flickr page for us

Armed with the new password, I have uploaded a picture of he treble clef 
motif I made in 2015 and finally mounted onto a top this week - I'm 
pretty pleased with how it's turned out


I still have last winter's lace ( a Michel Jourde snail motif) waiting 
for mounting/ends finishing off, but chose to spend some time today 
starting a new piece of lace instead so a photo of that one will have to 
wait...


Happy New Year to lacemakers everywhere

Beth

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[lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Sue and everyone

Has anyone but me had difficulty logging into the arachne flickr page to 
upload photos recently?
I've just tried to add a picture of the lace I took off the pillow last 
Christmas and finally finished mounting today, but although yahoo still 
recognises the password below it then insists this needs to be changed 
and won't let me in unless I invent a new password... I've tried 
reconfirming the existing one but yahoo just complains that's too 
similar to the existing password, so I've given up for the moment...

Beth


On 26/09/14 22:15, Sue Babbs wrote:
> For future reference to upload photos to Flickr:
>>
>> The REALLY important first part is to make sure you are logged in to 
>> Yahoo (and thus Flickr) as arachne2003 - not yourself.SO logout as 
>> yourself first, then log in to 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/ as arachne2003 , password 
>> LaceMaker1
>>
>> Note that the upper and lower cases must be as shown above.
>>

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Re: [lace] torchon ground / gimp writing

[Beth Marshall]

I've not seen any book like this, but if I wanted to do something like 
this with "joined-up" cursive writing in lace I'd start with a printed 
copy of the grid (on good quality paper that will stand up to a lot of 
rubbing out & re-doing), write my words onto that in pencil & then 
adjust the lines where needed to fit the grid (or - cheating in torchon 
- adjust the pinhole positions slightly to adjust the ground to the words).


would probably need to adjust letter widths/spacings to get the upright 
lines in the right place for the grid spaces, but if you don't want to 
keep rubbing out & re-writing could lay a tracing-paper copy of the grid 
over the words and move the "word" layer slightly when the verticals get 
out-of-sync with the grid - that method probably works just as well (or 
better) using layers in CAD drawing/lace software, but I've never had 
enough design time to get to grips with those :-(


It's a lovely idea for a garter, it's perfectly possible to get a gimp 
to make a nice flowing text but I don't think I've seen it done in torchon.


Beth
Cheshire, NW England


Jenny wrote:

I am going to design a wedding garter for my daughter's May wedding, but
wanted to use torchon ground with gimp writing words like Love, Hope, Joy.
My problem is that I am not sure how or even if gimp can do cursive writing
- can you direct me to a book, website or person who may have the alphabet
and or words already sorted out?


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Re: [lace] Sternchen-Ei

[Beth Marshall]

hi Susan (and anyone else interested)

Back on a proper PC at last :-) , the instructions for sternchengrund I 
found were at 
http://www.handarbeitsfrau.de/thema/Sternchengrund-mit-4-Paaren.19718/
It's the reply from Kloeppel-tante ("lace aunt"- I love that username - 
says something about the way one generation of lacemakers tries to help 
the next find their passion for lacemaking, like aunties used to help 
their nieces/friends' daughters acquire traditional female craft skills...)


I'm sure one of our German-speaking Arachne members can translate those 
better than I did :-)


Beth


 Susan wrote:

Thanks!  I will follow up on that.  My Google search didn't find it but I didn't use 
both Bellon & Sternchengrund as keywords.  It won't hurt to request the book I 
mentioned & see what else might be lurking in there!  Thanks again for helping out. 
 Sincerely, Susan

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 2, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Beth Marshall <b...@capuchin.co.uk> wrote:

I've not seen that book, I spotted the reference to Brigitte Bellon in the 
caption to your flicker photo and t found these instructions by searching 
google for Bellon + sternchengrund, so it's probably the same ground.


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[lace] Lace on display in London?

[Beth Marshall]

I think I remember a post on Arachne a while back about a textile exhibit at 
the V until the autumn, which had some lace trimmed items? Or possibly at 
another London venue. 
I unexpectedly have to go to London one Saturday in September & could have a 
few hours free to go & see it, but my computer is broke and I can't find the 
message/ search the archive for it - if someone remembers this & still had 
details of the exhibition please forward to me privately.
Thanks
Beth
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Re: [lace] spanish lace pins

[Beth Marshall]

Might not work in an area of honeycomb with closely-packed pinholes, but I 
usually use glass-headed pins for picots
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[lace] finished at last!

[Beth Marshall]

Great relief today - my bookmark is finally finished and in the post on 
its way to Sue :-)


Beth
Cheshire, England

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[lace] bookmark exchange

[Beth Marshall]

Hi everyone

I received my bookmark from Sue T today - a very pretty, delicate 
torchon pattern in white thread mounted on a red background.


I've not finished the bookmark I'm making for the exchange yet, so I'd 
better make the most of the wet weekend the forecasters are promising us...


Beth
In Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Lace grounds with symmetry

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Veronika

I think most rosegrounds are a good examples of an object with 
rotational symmetry as well as mirror symmetry - you can rotate the the 
lace a quarter or a half turn & the ground still looks exactly the same


Beth
In a sunny but quite cold Cheshire, England

Veronika wrote:

I am studying lace grounds patterns that
have symmetry.  I have been able to find many examples with mirror reflection
in them.  Roseground is a good example which can be reflected in four mirrors
that meet in the center of a square (see the following picture:
https://tesselace.com/symmetry/).  What I am looking for is grounds that have
rotation symmetry - like a pinwheel. That is grounds that can be turned around
in a quarter, third or half of a circle and still look the same.   In the link
above I have included an example of pinwheel symmetry in a little ground that
I discovered using a computer algorithm.

So my question to you is, do you know of any grounds with rotation symmetry?


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[lace] Lace magazines and memberships

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks to Joepie for reminding me about Vuelta y Cruz - combining 
Spanish practice with lace definitely rates highly with me, so wanted to 
subscribe but couldn't afford to when it first started and had forgotten 
about it; subscription for this year now taken out :-)


I'm also a Lace Guild member, can't give you a review of the April issue 
of Lace as it's been sitting unopened by my chair for a week, along with 
quite a pile of non-lace publications I'm behind on reading; too much to 
do, too little time - how I'm going to find time to read Vuelta y Cruz 
as well is a mystery :-(


I find myself agreeing with both Jane & Joepie on the individual 
membership/shared subscriptions questions - of course we should support 
our lace organisations/publications by subscribing individually and 
encouraging others to do so, but where 2 individuals can't afford the 
whole membership fee/subscription surely it's better for everyone to 
have them club together and share one copy - at least the organisation 
gets one sub that way instead of none? Similarly where one individual 
can't justify the cost of an individual sub in terms of what they'll get 
back - that's probably an issue for some of us when considering 
subscribing to an overseas guild/publication where the postage rate 
pushes up the cost and we're too far away to benefit from any guild 
activities apart from the the magazine, and most of us don't have deep 
enough pockets to support more than our local/national group out of 
altruism.
And of course, passing on or lending a recent-ish back copy of a guild 
magazine to a newer lacemaker can be a good "hook" to lead into the 
suggestion they join the guild...


Beth
In a warm but windy Cheshire, UK

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Re: [lace] Lace Event in Austria, April 10, 2016 Needs Translation

[Beth Marshall]

I'll offer a first attempt at at a transalation:

"Laces of the Viennese Services - Dagobert Peche"

I had to use babelfish for Werkstatte (my German is rudimentary) so if 
anyone knows an alternative/related meaning that fits better in the 
context please jump into the conversation...


Dagobert Peche sounds vaguely familiar and Dagobert is a man's name, so 
I guess Dagobert Peche was either a designer or the name of a lace 
dealer/manufacturing company
(peche is french for peach - or possibly sin, depending where the 
accents are in the original french, but most likely a family name in 
this non-French context)


Regards

Beth

Jeri wrote:
 However, one of today's notices mentions a Lace Event in Austria on 
Sunday, April 10. The address Laurie gave to look at details is: 
http://tinyurl.com/z72f793 Since the contact is Leopoldine Winkler, and 
the lecture is "Spitzen der Wiener Werkstatte - Dagobert Peche" by Dr. 
Harmut Lang, it occurred to me that it would be nice if someone would 
translate this.


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Re: [lace] Quiet list

[Beth Marshall]

I'd been too busy to notice but yes, the list is very quiet at the 
moment - I hope that's because everyone is too busy making lace to talk 
about it


I finished the tape lace snail I started on New Year's Day a couple of 
week's ago, but haven't had time to take it off the pillow yet or to 
mount last year's lace project :-(
It's getting close to the start of the gardening season so by the time 
I've mounted those pieces I probably won't start a new lace project 
until autumn.


Beth
Cheshire, UK

I'm hoping it's just quiet because I'm not getting any either!

Catherine Barley
UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

Subject : [lace] Quiet list

Is the list very quiet or am I just not getting mail?

Ann
UK

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Re: [lace] hints on Google searching - finding the arachne archives

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Jenny - those are helpful

Gentle spiders -  I "heard" the original "lurker's complaint as a cry 
for help in finding the archives and it occurs to me that it would be 
easier for newbies & others who don't already have the archive webpage 
bookmarked  if the url for the arachne archive was in the "signature" 
majordomo adds to the bottom of all messages to the list (like the 
arachne flicker page address already is - you will be able to see that 
link below), so we could could go straight to the archive and search for 
the original message/topic within that rather than searching the whole web.
(Jenny's hints on focusing the search could be applied almost verbatim 
to a search within the archives when there is not a 
thoughtfully-provided search term from Jeri to guide the seeker)


Of course, understanding the search results and finding the "needle" of 
advice we need in the "haystack" of past discussions can still be a 
problem for any of us, particularly if our research time or background 
knowledge of the topic is limited - sometimes a short, non-scholarly 
answer may be more practical use to the individual questioner than a 
scholarly article which he/she may not be ready for, but Jeri's 
knowledge will still be invaluable to the lacemaking community as a 
whole. The list needs both answers.


Beth
Cheshire, NW England

 Jenny wrote:

Quote: Browsing using Google is not easy if you do not know how  or cannot
access the internet easily. Unquote

 ...

So ...here are a few hints and tips that I use - I hope you will find them
helpful

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Re: [lace] a raffle & a request for help - the results

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Everyone

A big thank you to the 4 people who offered to take on the needlelace 
project, Janet Theaker's name was the one drawn so this will be heading 
across the Pennines to my native county, East Yorkshire.


And out of 8 entrants the winner of the raffle for the evening bag kit 
is ... Anna Binnie in Sydney.


Janet, Anna - please let me know your postal addresses so I can send 
these to you.


Regards

Beth
In a rather damp & chilly Cheshire, NW England - the perfect excuse to 
stay inside & make lace


On 30/12/15 , Beth  wrote:


Is anyone interested in taking over a fairly big needlelace project?
 I started a one-piece collar of autumn leaves (my own design) just as 
arthritis in my thumbs started to interfere with any needle-based 
craft activity and am never going to be able to finish it.


if more than one person wants to take this on I will put the names in 
a hat & pick one out. I will pay postage to anywhere worldwide.



And the raffle - a project I never got round to starting, embroidery 
rather than lace. It is a kit to make a canvaswork evening bag:
If you would like to enter the raffle for this email me privately - I 
will draw a winner on Sunday 10 Jan.






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Re: [lace] a raffle & a request for help - needlelace collar pictures

[Beth Marshall]

For anyone who would like to see it/get an idea of the size I have 
uploaded to the arachne flicker page a photo of the lace collar 
"pattern" (with 6"/15cm ruler alongside for scale) and one of the small 
area of cordonnet I'd completed - when I got it out of the cupboard to 
photograph there was even less done than I thought.
(They are in the album "Beth M" if you can't see them in the recent 
postings)


There are two or three people interested in taking on the collar, so 
this will also be a draw-name-from-hat next Sunday - there's still time 
for anyone else who wants to put their name into the draw for this or 
the evening bag kit.


Regards

Beth

On 30/12/15 20:54, Beth wrote:


Is anyone interested in taking over a fairly big needlelace project?
 I started a one-piece collar of autumn leaves (my own design) just as 
arthritis in my thumbs started to interfere with any needle-based 
craft activity and am never going to be able to finish it - there it 
is, stuck in a cupboard; if anyone has the needlelace skills, time & 
inclination to take it on, make it their own and find a use for it, I 
will pass it on.
 There are no instructions, and no plan for which fillings to use - 
just a copy of the outline shaded to give a rough idea of colour 
placement, a selection of small reels of silk thread (various 
thicknesses and colours in an autumn leaf palette - 
red/orange/yellow/green/brown) which may or may not be enough to 
complete the collar and the started piece.
Please email me privately if you are interested - if more than one 
person wants to take this on I will put the names in a hat & pick one 
out. I will pay postage to anywhere worldwide.



And the raffle - a project I never got round to starting, embroidery 
rather than lace. It is a kit to make a canvaswork evening bag: 
complete magazine (New Stitches issue no.17 from 1994) including the 
instructions for the bag, canvas, padding, press stud, glass beads and 
tapestry needle. The only things not included are thread and lining 
fabric - you will need 10 skeins of stranded cotton in a main colour 
and 7 in a second colour of your choice (at the time I couldn't afford 
to buy those at the same time as the kit, and for some reason I forgot 
about it and never bought the thread).
If you would like to enter the raffle for this email me privately - I 
will draw a winner on Sunday 10 Jan.





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[lace] a raffle & a request for help

[Beth Marshall]

Hi all

Is anyone interested in taking over a fairly big needlelace project?
 I started a one-piece collar of autumn leaves (my own design) just as 
arthritis in my thumbs started to interfere with any needle-based craft 
activity and am never going to be able to finish it - the cordonnet is 
laid and a couple of fillings done (not very neatly, due to increasing 
difficulty in manipulating needle & thread - they may need cutting out & 
re-doing), and there it is, stuck in a cupboard; if anyone has the 
needlelace skills, time & inclination to take it on, make it their own 
and find a use for it, I will pass it on.
 There are no instructions, and no plan for which fillings to use - 
just a copy of the outline shaded to give a rough idea of colour 
placement, a selection of small reels of silk thread (various 
thicknesses and colours in an autumn leaf palette - 
red/orange/yellow/green/brown) which may or may not be enough to 
complete the collar and the started piece.
Please email me privately if you are interested - if more than one 
person wants to take this on I will put the names in a hat & pick one 
out. I will pay postage to anywhere worldwide.



And the raffle - a project I never got round to starting, embroidery 
rather than lace. It is a kit to make a canvaswork evening bag: complete 
magazine (New Stitches issue no.17 from 1994) including the instructions 
for the bag, canvas, padding, press stud, glass beads and tapestry 
needle. The only things not included are thread and lining fabric - you 
will need 10 skeins of stranded cotton in a main colour and 7 in a 
second colour of your choice (at the time I couldn't afford to buy those 
at the same time as the kit, and for some reason I forgot about it and 
never bought the thread).
If you would like to enter the raffle for this email me privately - I 
will draw a winner on Sunday 10 Jan.


Regards

Beth

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[lace] Christmas Greetings

[Beth Marshall]

Season's Greetings to all. I hope those who celebrate Christmas had a 
great day yesterday.


My Christmas presents included a copy of Alex Stilwell's book on Floral 
Bucks Point - eye candy only for the time being as I won't have time to 
master geometric Bucks, let alone Floral, until I retire :-) , but 
lovely to look at.


Beth

In a rather soggy Cheshire, NW England - lacemaking weather rather than 
Boxing-Day walk, I think :-)


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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Jane

Try your local vet or possibly a pharmacist for a safe, effective 
household insecticide spray (over-the-counter ones from supermarkets/pet 
stores are mostly a waste of time & money) - Indorex which our vet 
prescribed to deal with a household flea-infestation, is also effective 
against dust mites and It is not at all dangerous once dry - I've used 
it on bedding (pillows and duvet) with no ill effect on myself or my 
asthmatic husband (the accompanying leaflet advised that the insecticide 
is safe for asthmatics but they should get someone else to do the spraying)

I've not used it on my lace pillows yet but intend to once I get the 
works-in-progress off them - I don't think there's any need to shut the 
pillow up in a bag or box afterwards, the spray worked perfectly well on 
sofas & a heavily-infested bean-bag book support without covering them 
afterwards.

I reckon that's easier than trying to heat or freeze a large pillow for 
long enough to kill the mites in an English winter

Beth
In mild, damp, grey Cheshire, North West England .. not much sun _o__r_ 
frost round here in December :


> I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for 
> years has mites.  
> the cover is not removeable so I can't spray inside the pillow.
>
> The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and 
> spray with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for 
> a few days.
>
> The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more 
> recent experience / success to share?
>
>

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Re: [lace] Must I push down pins?

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Julie

I'm not an expert on this, but when I do piece-lace motif with fillings 
I either push all the pins right down or take all but the edge ones out 
(and push those down) before I move on to the next section - it makes a 
big difference to how easy (or not ;-) ) it is to push bobbins out of 
the way.


On something like your scarf I'd be tempted to remove as many columns of 
pins as I dared, and would push the rest down almost flat (leave just 
enough "stalk" to wiggle that pin lifter between the thread and pin-head 
safely when you do take them out).


How many columns of pins you need to leave in will depend on how the 
threads move in your scarf pricking and how close/loose the weave in - 
if there are threads which work across from one side to the other with 
very few pins/twists you'll need to leave more in than if all the 
threads are zig-zagging between tightly-packed pins.


Can anyone more knowledgeable suggest a "rule of thumb" for judging how 
many/which pins Julie needs to leave in to avoid distorting the worked 
sections?


Beth
In a grey & windy Cheshire, NW England (where if it isn't raining, it's 
usually about to rain...)



Julie wrote:

So, having done a full column of sewings, I couldn't help put notice the large, 
obtrusive wall of pins on the left side of my pillow the entire time I was 
working the second horizontal strip.  Having the left side of  my pillow cut 
off from me unpleasantly constrained my working area.  I laid a small piece of 
cloth over the pins so I could throw my bobbins there when I wasn't using them, 
and that worked fine and I had no problem with threads tangling in the pins, 
but when I was crossing and twisting it didn't feel natural to try to scale the 
bobbins over the wall of pins and onto the cloth, so the bobbins I was working 
with were all over to the right side.  Which felt crowded.  Also, the 
tensioning direction was wrong, so after the stitch I kept picking up bobbin 
pairs and pulling them all the way over to the left so that tension was in the 
correct direction, in particular so that cloth stich passives didn't bunch up 
over on the right side of the cloth trail.



So, now, here I am, doing a piece lace sort of thing--sewing--and Iseem to 
remember something about pushing down pins so they don't get in the way?  Is 
that what I really need to do to get rid of the wall of pins on my left?   ALL 
the pins?  There are so many!  And then I will have to dig them all up again to 
remove them from the lace!  Instead of pushing them all down, should I remove 
most of the pins when I finish the horizontal strip and just leave in a few 
columns of pins along the edge, pushed down?  How many columns (this is 
torchon)?  I have a pin pusher (I like to push down headside and footside pins 
in point ground) so it won't hurt my fingers.  I think I might also have a pin 
puller upper, but I never liked it because I worried it would catch on the 
lace.  Will getting rid of the wall of pins really improve my life so much as 
to be worth the extra trouble of pushing down the pins?

It just seems like a weird concept to me, pushing down pins, since it's not 
something I usually do.


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Re: [lace] pricking size for scarf

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Julie

Not sure how big your "extra large" pins are, but have you tried using 
the berry-headed ones -  with thick-ish thread (eg no. 40 linen - your 
scarf yarn is probably a lot thicker than that) I use those for picots 
where I am putting a lot of twists round the pin, makes a nice big picot 
and the pin can take really firm tugging to tension the thread so the 
picot sits nicely.


You need big, strong pins for your thick scarf yarn otherwise they will 
bend when you need to tension the yarn firmly...


Beth
In Cheshire, NW England

On 28/10/15 16:07, jsyz...@comcast.net wrote:
 I wonder if I should use one twist when putting the weaver around the 
pin instead of two twists? Holly sold me some extra large pins, but she 
still seemed dubious about their size. I don't know why she is dubious; 
I don't know what happens if torchon pins are too small. But I wonder 
whether the reason the thread feels resistant going around the weaver 
pin is not that the pricking is small but rather that the pins are so 
small that it hard to fit two twists inwhen circling around the pin.


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Re: [lace] Flickr

[Beth Marshall]

the problem with a closed facebook group is that it will exclude all 
those arachne members like myself who are not on facebook and don't 
intend to join ...


At least with the flickr page we can all see it/add photos even if we 
don't have our own flickr account.


Beth
In a sunny Cheshire, NW England, so I will be gardening rather than 
lacemaking today


 Clay Blackwell wrote:
 What I did see was an old post from David Collier who had suggested we 
create a closed group on Facebook. I don't remember seeing this when he 
posted it, but it appeals to me more and more. Any other comments? Clay


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Re: [lace] Copying a brown pattern-clear contact paper

[Beth Marshall]

I still prefer to prick my patterns the traditional way (prick through 
the paper copy onto heavy glazed pricking card then take the copy away 
and draw in the markings by hand), so the colour background on the copy 
is immaterial so long as I can see the dots  markings clearly enough to 
prick/copy them - colour photocopying is a real boon where the original 
background is dark and won't offer enough contrast to the dots in black 
 white.
I find that I can figure out out thread paths while I'm pricking out the 
dots and marking up the pattern instead of marking them in on a copy of 
the working diagram - by the time the pricking's done I've got a pretty 
fair idea of how to tackle the pattern.


Being used to working on a brown background Antje's suggestion of 
leaving the background brown sounds practical - if it's a middling, 
kraft paper of pricking card sort of brown it will work well as a 
background for many colours of lace
Though not for the brown-striped snail I'm planning to make next :-( I 
may have to give in and use matte film over a photocopy on another 
colour background for that (think I still have a bit of blue film left 
somewhere from when my hands would let me do needlelace, might as well 
use it up).


Beth
listening to the blackbirds in Cheshire, NW England - this year's 
youngsters have just fledged and all the adult birds are in a continual 
state of cat-alarm.


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Re: [lace] another thread question

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Brenda - both are 3-ply, so you're probably right

Can't do a test wrap myself, unfortunately - never had the manual 
dexterity to wind fine thread evenly enough at the best of times, and 
these days arthritis in my thumbs makes it painful to hold the thread 
and card while I attempt it - so I'll try it on something the 28 w/cm 
Sylko would suit.


Beth

 Brenda Paternoster wrote:

Hi Beth

Is it 3ply or 4ply?
Although J  P Coats Cotton 40 is 31 w/cm it’s  actually 4Z-31 w/cm.

What you have probably compares to Coats sylko 40, 3Z-28 w/cm

Brenda



There are 2 different labels (I'm not sure whether there is any difference in 
the thread between the two):
Coats Satinised machine twist 40 and Coats Satinised mercerised cotton 40

Does anyone recognise those names or have any of them in their workbox? Coats 
threads were ubiquitous in my childhood, but I don't recognise the label style 
and ordinary hand/machine sewing thread was usually Coats Sylko

In the absence of other info I will start by assuming they will be very similar to J 
 P Coats Cotton 40, which is listed as 31 wraps/cm in Threads for Lace, and make a 
sample on a pricking suitable for that.

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk








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Re: [lace] Nottingham's Bucks Point book

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Nancy

IIRR the other one is called Bucks point lacemaking
No idea which is generally considered better, though I think The 
Technique of Bucks Point Lace has more in it - maybe others can answer that.
I have them both somewhere in my lace bookcase, but haven't looked at 
them for a while (mainly because I haven't done any bucks point for a 
while, though I think some of the newer bucks point instruction books 
are easier to learn from than the Nottingham books)


Beth
In Cheshire, NW England - expecting heavy snow tomorrow, though don't 
expect more than a couple of inches to settle except on the hills


Nancy wrote:
 Which is the really good version of Pamela Nottingham's Bucks Point 
book? I've been told there are two editions, or maybe two versions more 
different than just editions, and one is much better than the other.  I 
have one copyright 1981, called The Technique of Bucks Point Lace. Is 
that the better of the two?  If not, what is the date and title of the 
other one?


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Re: [lace] silk threads

[Beth Marshall]

Pipers' 90/2 Twisted Gloss Silk is a filament thread, and Brenda P 
recently measured it at 30w/cm (it's not in the existing edition of 
Threads for lace but should be in edition 6 when that comes out)
I'm making lace with that at the moment and it's lovely thread to work 
with - much softer and more adaptable than the Guterman spun silks, it 
will spread out to fill a bigger space or squash up to fit a smaller one.
Might be quite a slow process getting hold of some in Canada though - 
Pipers' is a one-woman business and the silk is hand-reeled to order, so 
there's usually a wait even without international post to contend with.


Beth
in a snowy Cheshire, NW England


Heather wrote:
 I am looking for recommendations for a filiment silk thread (not spun 
silk, I'm hoping to compare the two!) that is approximately the same 
size as Gutterman silk 100/3 (28 wraps / cm) I am struggling mightily 
with all the different terms around silk threads (floss silk? Twisted 
seems promsing. Unboiled?)


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Re: [lace] Pipers silk help

[Beth Marshall]

As a small business they do close for holidays - the notes on ordering 
page on their website hasn't been updated recently so I couldn't check 
the Christmas closure dates (it's still showing holiday date info for 
July  September 2014), but could it be that Susan is taking a 
particularly long Christmas/New Year break?


Has anyone else had contact with Pipers' recently can report whether 
everything seemed ok? It's odd that the Christmas closure dates hadn't 
been put on the website, but that could just have been forgotten in the 
Christmas rush.


Regards

Beth



On 12/01/15 23:32, The Lace Bee wrote:

Dear gentle spiders I need your help.

One of my students ordered some silk thread from Pipers silk before Xmas. It 
still hasn't arrived and she has had problems contacting them

I have emailed them, and got no reply. Today I tried ringing them, and got a 
message saying that my call can't be connected because their equipment is switched 
off.

Do any of you know why this might be happening?

Can you offer any help?

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Thread size

[Beth Marshall]

Can't help with the clover (not a brand I've seen before), but I also 
found a silk thread that's not listed in Threads for Lace in my stash 
yesterday - Pipers twisted gloss silk 90/2; the threads Pipers' website 
suggests as equivalent are mostly in the 40-45 wraps/cm range so I'm 
trying it on a pattern sized for 40 w/cm (it's a tape lace so I can add 
extra pairs if necessary). Comes in a gorgeous range of colours - I've 
used it for bucks point in the past.


Brenda - if you'd like a sample to do a test wrap reply to me privately 
and I'll post a length to you; if the launch of edition 6 is imminent 
I'll send it at the same time as my order.


Beth
Cheshire, NW England

Janice wrote:

I was just going through my stash and came across two spools of variegated silk 
that I cannot find in Brenda's book and wonder what size it is.  Clover 
quilters silk thread. Size 8, but it does not seem thick enough to me to be an 
8.  Any ideas.
Janice



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[lace] Pattern suggestion thanks - and Idrija lace books

[Beth Marshall]

Hello all

thanks to all those who replied (on  off list) with pattern suggestions 
- I now have lots of ideas (if only I had enough time to try them all), 
one of which is to try Idrija lace as there seem to be lots of very 
attractive smallish motif patterns available for that;


As I've never tried Idrija I could do with an instruction book to help 
with the techniques before I leap into any more complex patterns - can 
anyone tell me what Idrija books are out there, and which ones are worth 
buying for a beginner to this type of lace?
Doesn't matter too much if they are not in English, particularly if 
their are plenty of good diagrams (I've been making lace long enough to 
read diagrams plus I can read French and Spanish pretty fluently, and 
make out a reasonable amount in German or Italian - armed with the 
international lace dictionary I'll tackle most lace publications)


Meanwhile,  going into the lace folder on my computer to dig out the 
Spanish pattern books Lorelei mentioned (which I had downloaded ages ago 
and forgotten about) I found a tape-and-fillings pattern for a treble 
clef - no idea where I downloaded this pattern by Claudine Bouvain from, 
there's just the pricking and a picture of the completed motif in my 
files, originally white but it would look glorious multi-coloured in 
really bright silk threads and I have a ridiculously large stash of 
those so I shall be preparing my pricking and winding some bobbins 
tonight..


Beth

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[lace] Pattern suggestions wanted

[Beth Marshall]

Hi everyone

As it's quiet on the list I'm going to creep out of lurkdom and ask for 
suggested sources for fairly quick, simple patterns using relatively 
small numbers of bobbins.


Having joined in with the Salamander project and loved it I've realised 
that the main reason I don't make lace these days is that my current UFO 
projects (a wide cluny edging from one of the retournac pattern sets and 
a bucks point edging in very fine black silk, both using 30+ pairs) are 
totally unsuitable to my current life style (commuting full-time worker) 
- I just don't have the time or mental energy to get anywhere with 
them(takes me about 20 minutes just to unpack or pack up again on the 
beds pattern - given that most weeks I'll have less than 2 hours 
lacemaking time - including the getting out and putting away - it's just 
not worth bothering to get the pillow out).


What I need is some relatively small projects using far fewer bobbins - 
there are patterns out there, but they're not in my library (I've tended 
to concentrate on the traditional continuous laces in the past) and I 
don't get to lacemakers' fairs or the few shops which sell lace books.


So, any suggestions for pattern types/sources? Particularly cheap or 
free patterns (my lacemaking budget is even more limited than my time).


Which lace styles/techniques would fit the bill?

Ideas, please!

(and if anyone can tell me where to see more of Michel Jourde's patterns 
and how to order them - all I have is the link for his blog, doesn't 
really help with seeing what's available to order...)


Thanks in advance

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England - where the weather is unusually mild for the 
time of year (about 10-12 C tonight - normal for January would be about 
4-6 C daytime maximum) and with very strong winds (potentially gale 
force) forecast overnight.


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[lace] Re: (lace) preferred cloth size

[Beth Marshall]

I'd echo the suggestions to keep the size fairly small (particularly if 
there's a timescale for completing the exchange) as lace grows pretty 
slowly.


I've found that lace-edged cloths about 8 to 12 inches square are fairly 
versatile - a couple I made as hankies for my Mum got used as decorative 
cloths to stand vases, etc, on on polished tables (she reckoned more 
people would notice them that way, and said they were too precious to 
blow her nose on), and I use one of mine as a modesty piece inside 
low-necked tops, carefully folded off-centre so that two rows of lace 
are visible.


Beth
Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Kate Bainbridge commented on the group Tatting on LACEIOLI

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Daphne

I think this was probably meant for the laceioli ning group rather than 
arachne?
FWIW, I believe Roseground also stock the needle tatting needles - I got 
mine from there a few years ago.
Not sure whether it's easier than shuttle tatting (probably is for those 
who struggle to master flipping the knot) but needle tatting is 
certainly more comfortable for arthritic hands.


Beth
Cheshire, NW England (where tatting/lace suppliers other than mail order 
are just as rare as down south)


On 02/01/15 13:05, Daphne Martin wrote:

Tatting and Design has the needles and accessories.

Happy tatting
Daphne Norfolk UK


Subject: Kate Bainbridge commented on the group Tatting on LACEIOLI



I have also seen a video for needle tatting. It gives the same result. Is
that easier, does anyone know?

I don't think the needles are available in the UK, possibly up North but not

in the South.



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Re: [lace] Happy Christmas

[Beth Marshall]

Hi all

Luton Museum brought out a new edition of the book fairly recently ( 
late 2012), with new high-quality digital photographs of the samples - 
beautiful eye candy for any lacemaker, and an inspiration for the bucks 
point makers.


I ordered mine directly from the Luton Museums' website - it's still  
available there 
https://www.lutonculture.com/shop/shop/books-and-media/the-lace-dealers-pattern-book/ 



hope all those who celebrate it have had a wonderful Christmas - I've 
even managed to find time for a bit of lace during the break, so 
Salamander no. 3 (in tropical lagoon camouflage) is ready to come of the 
pillow.


Happy New Year 2015 - here's hoping we all have time for lace

Beth
in a very frosty Cheshire, NW England, but fortunately we've escaped the 
snow.


Robin wrote:

 Sue wrote:
   The pattern I
bought and used was taken from the Lace Dealers handbook (now have I got that
quote right?)Does that mean it was a pattern in a book which people might 
choose to
have made for a particular reason.

Hi, Sue



The Luton Museum's Lace Dealer's Pattern Book is a series of pages to which 
snippets of lace are attached.  The dealer would show these pieces, produced by the women 
that worked for him, and the customer would pick the one she wanted and tell how many 
yards (or pieces, if it's a motif).  Then the dealer would order that amount from the 
woman who specialized in that pattern.

The one at the Luton Museum got some fame when it was raising money to have the 
book refurbished.  They wanted to remount the lace pieces on archival board.  
Arachne was one of the donors, by holding a raffle of prizes donated by 
members.  After the re-mounting, the museum had a book made of photographs of 
the pages.




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Re: [lace] Simple needlelace question

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Helen

I'm no needlelace expert (let alone guru), just someone who enjoyed 
making a bit of needlelace until arthritis in my thumb made all 
hand-sewing/embroidery too painful to continue, but I reckon for me the 
natural way to make the stitch comes out opposite on alternate 
directions and that's how it's shown in the diagram for double brussels 
stitch at the beginning of Catherine Barley's book; I'd never even 
thought whether it was possible to make it look the same, and the 
results look ok to me, the
stitch tension is the most important thing and that won't come right if 
the movement of making the stitch feels awkward or uncomfortable.


What do our real needlelace experts on arachne think?

Beth
In a damp, chilly Cheshire (NW England)

PS Anyone have any ideas what to do with a very large needlelace UFO? - 
I spent 10 years playing with the idea and collecting silk threads for a 
wide collar of autumn leaves, finally got the outlines worked out on 
paper and arthritis struck just as I'd finished laying the cordonnet; 
I'm unlikely ever to be able to work at it for more than 10 minutes at a 
time (even sewing a button back onto a garment is painful) so no hope of 
completing it...



Helen wrote:

Dear Needlelace Gurus, I have a really basic question. I've received 
conflicting answers from 'experts' so I'm now confused. When you are making the 
'buttonhole' stitch from right to left, is it supposed to look identical to 
when made from left to right or is it supposed to be the opposite? I do hope 
that this makes sense! Many thanks in advance ...

Regards, Helen


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[lace] another lace salamander pic added to arachne photo album

[Beth Marshall]

Hi all

The list seems very quiet at the moment - is everyone too busy making 
lace to post anything? I hope so...


I have finally finished my second salamander from the Michel Jourde 
pattern - I think this one is really beautiful, made in two shades 
(fiesta and marigold) of Caron Wildflowers variegated thread - he's in 
autumn moorland camouflage (shades of bracken, heather, moss, dying 
grasses...). In fact, I'm so proud of him I've even managed to upload a 
photo to the arachne flicker page and add him to the arachne salamanders 
folder for you all to see.


Beth

In a rather grey Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Lace screen

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Jeanette - fascinating. Thought it was bobbin lace until I got to the 
work-in-progress pics and realised she was needle weaving with a single rope...
Beth
In a cold but sunny Cheshire, NW England
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Re: [lace] Salamander group

[Beth Marshall]

How much work does the Salamander take? And how big is it (cm or inches)?
I haven't touched my current WIP for months (quite possibly over a 
year), too little time and energy left after work  gardening, but the 
Salamander is gorgeous enough to tempt me into starting a new project 
for the winter evenings...


Beth
In Cheshire (NW England), where it feels like Autumn is already here


Carol wrote:

I like the idea! And bless you for volunteering to keep us organized.


Antje wrote:

Hello to all those interested in working Jourde's salamander.

Last week somebody asked how to start the salamander. And I cannot remember
who sent this SOS. But it made me think  that, as we are quite a few
interested in working it, we could form a kind of group and help each other
as we go on working. I haven't started it yet, and have only the pattern
printed but would love to work in company.

If it is not an interesting information for Arachne, we could add all our
emails in one and keep answering to this email. I offer myself to organize
it.

In the end, we can send a group participation of Arachne members.

What do you think of this?





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Re: [lace] Jeri's posts

[Beth Marshall]

I'm sure Jacquie is right here...

Jeri, I can't claim to read _*all*_ your posts in detail - some of the 
topics are of more interest to me than others, and with limited time for 
emails I have to skim-read many posts - but I've learnt a lot from the 
ones that have caught my interest and I know other people appreciate 
your articles on subjects I'm not as interested in. Even if the archives 
disappear a considerable amount of information will already have been 
absorbed by other lacemakers or saved in their files, so your articles 
will not have been a waste of effort.

Regards

Beth


  Jacquie Tinch wrote:
 Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure there 
 are enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue.

 Jacquie in Lincolnshire.

   jeria...@aol.com wrote:



 I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on
 Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a 
 subject
 for dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just
 writing for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or, 
 maybe
 our archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did), and
 all will have been for  naught.

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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Re: [lace] Blood spot

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Alex

Salt (in _cold_ water for a dried on stain - hot water will set the 
stain) is my usual first line of attack for bloodstains. Works fairly 
well on recent stains that haven't been through a hot wash

For a fresh (still wet) bloodstain, rubbing dry salt (gently!) onto the 
spot will soak up the blood, but don't forget to rinse well immediately 
in cold water (the salt itself is corrosive, not good for delicate 
fabrics if any is left in)

Beth

  Alex Stillwell wrote:
 Hi Arachnids

 IâEUR^(TM)m a little late replying and am surprised that on one mentioned 
 blood
 stains should first be soaked in salt water, 1 teaspoon to 1 pint, preferably
 immediately, but even if it has dried it helps to soften the stain.

 Hope it has all come out.

 Alex


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Re: [lace] Stunned

[Beth Marshall]

I think 1988 publication of pattern means it could just be 25 years old. I 
guess that's vintage in textile terms.
 Beth 
in a horribly wet, windy Cheshire (UK)

On 12 February 2014 12:54:55 GMT+00:00, janefr...@gmail.com 
janefr...@googlemail.com wrote:
How do I feel about this? How *should* I feel
about this? I don't know - apart from feeling
completely stunned!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN-
SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027


This is a beautiful vintage HONITON LACE of
a bird in flight I think its a TERN which has
been hand made and put into a  frame it is on
a deep blue type material.The reverse of the
picture has a label which says HONITON LACE BY
BILL BLAKE SCOTLAND. Overall the picture mesures
APPROX. 7 1/2 inches wide by 9 3/4  inches high.
The frame surround is a nice gold coloured
wash on wood.  The honiton lace is absolutely
lovely with terrific detail. The  bird which
looks as though its about to dive measures
approx. 7 1/2 inches tall at the longest .   It
is an off white thread which has been used and
very unusual. There is no damage or fading, and
is very nice.


This piece of lace was made from my design,
published in Lace vol 51 (July 1988) and I can
confirm that it is definitely a tern.

Obviously the lace that's been sold was not
worked by me, but who was Bill Blake and why is
his work being sold on ebay? Who is the seller,
whinbush123?

It took me 3 months to make the original, maybe
Bill was a fast worker, but this has sold for
only �10.50!!!  Whoever bought it got a real
bargain, and I feel it hugely undervalues hand
made lace. (I wouldn't part with mine for ten
times that!).

And I have to say that, much as I appreciate
postings about looking after our lace, it
demonstrates that there is very little value to
it . Still, I treasure my original even if
its in worse condition than Bill's.

Vintage! - Eek!! Does that make me feel old or
what?!!! How old must an item be to be described
as vintage? This piece can be no more than 15
years old (counts rapidly on fingers since
obviously too senile to do anything else ;-) ).

The same seller has another lovely honiton
picture by the same lacemaker. I recognise the
design but can't think whose it is. It currently
has 12 hours to go and has no bids. I suppose I
should be pleased that my design was attractive
enough to receive 2 bids What will the seller
do with the lace if it is not sold?

More seriously, what are your thoughts on seeing
lace made from *your* designs sold on ebay?

Apologies for all the exclamation marks, but I'm speechless!!!
Best wishes from
Jane
in soggy Hampshire

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Re: [lace] test - and what's the biggest/most difficult piece of lace you ever made

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Diane, I'd been wondering whether the arachne messages were 
getting through myself - think we must have exhausted the recent topics 
and everyone's gone back to making lace instead of emailing about it... 
or gone back to work  no time for lace or emails :-(


lace content: the biggest (in terms of working hours, at least) piece of 
bobbin lace I ever made was the Les Lauriers design from the 
Fouriscot/Arpin Cluny de Brioude book - made as a gift for friends' 
special anniversary so I no longer have the piece itself, if I can find 
the photo of it I'll see if I can manage to put it on the Arachne 
flicker page.


Beth
in a very grey, damp Cheshire, NW England

On 18/01/14 01:57, DIANNE NICHOLSON wrote:

Test

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Re: [lace] Lace demonstration piece

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Leonard - I can really see just how good that is as a 
demonstration piece now, few enough bobbins not to daunt potential 
recruits but spectacular enough lace to catch their imaginations...


Beth


Leonard Bazar wrote:

Dear All

Sue (Babbs) has kindly posted a picture of the demonstration piece I
described earlier, as a few people had asked about it;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/11692789313/ gets me to it.




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Re: [lace] (Fwd) Query from David

[Beth Marshall]

Don't know about the TV series, but the original novel has a wonderful 
description of a display window of lace and yes, from what I remember of 
the lace types mentioned it would have been the genuine handmade laces...


Beth
Cheshire, England


 Bev Walker wrote: Asking to anyone, if *lace* has any part to play, 
will it be shown on sale over the counter? This would be the handmade 
laces produced by cottage workers, yes?

Begin FWD:

I'm enjoying so much the 2nd series of the TV series of The Paradise.


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Re: [lace] Modern Lace to Wear Below the Knee

[Beth Marshall]

Lovely ideas! Quite fancy trying the ankle bracelet idea myself (I'm a 
bit old for tunics-with-tights, but I do wear slightly longer 
tunic-style dresses to work) - might end up having to make them for all 
my 20-something colleagues, though, I can see the idea catching on...


Beth
in a rather chilly Cheshire, NW England, expecting a hard frost tonight

Jeri wrote:

This morning he showed boot toppers, which were 4 inches in depth,
elasticized top and bottom rims of the fur.  (Sort of like some wedding  
garters.).
 At the top, the elastic hugs the inside rim of the  boot.  You arrange the
bottom to your preference.  I am thinking this  is an idea for lace!
Purchase machine lace yardage  (too perishable for handmade), elastic, and a
length of contrasting  color grosgrain (or non-slippery) ribbon to lay beneath
the lace.   Do  you think this would work?
 
He also showed the fur ones with a plain coat - as cuffs - to dress it  up.

 I was thinking this would be nice in lace for a Winter bride  who does not
have a white coat to go with her gown.
 
(snip)
 
For a young person on your Christmas list, came the thought of  narrow gold

laces with pricking patterns in Gil Dye's new metallic  lace book.  There
is one on page 33 that uses only 2 pairs of  bobbins.  You might help start a
new fashion craze by making an ankle  bracelet (or two), to be worn by
someone who can carry off the current  fashion of wearing tights under a tunic.
 The wearer would have to  not drag her ankles against the opposite leg
(tights are expensive to replace),  but what fun for a special occasion.

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Re: [lace] Guild magazine

[Beth Marshall]

Mine arrived today, too - I get back late on Tuesdays so still looking 
forward to reading it when I've finished the chores


Beth

On 07/05/13 10:25, Hazel Smith wrote:

Hello all
  
Lace finally arrived today. Now I can stop hassling the postman.

Guess other UK members will have had theirs as well. Haven't looked at it yet
- sunshine is calling us outside. The mag will do nicely to cheer me up when
the weather breaks.
  
Hazel


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Re: [lace] - Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[Beth Marshall]

thanks Cynce - as someone who only picks up emails a couple of times a 
day (and one of those in a hurry with no time to reply before work), I 
often don't reply because what I have to contribute has already been 
said by someone else before I have time to add my two-penny-worth


Beth
In a grey damp Cheshire, NW England

Cynce wrote: I also check to see if my comment has been made by others. 
It gets old to see the same reply 5 or 6 times.


Sue wrote:

When there are probably less than 50 regular contributors to Arachne,  and
we know that there are another 1,000 or so who are lurking, does  that
matter to you?




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[lace] Re: pattern would you use? Colour

[Beth Marshall]

Hi all

If lace is being made so far in advance the bride's colour choices 
aren't decided/known, white lace seems sensible as it could perhaps be 
dyed at a later date to match/complement the bride's dress fabric choice?
Might be a good idea to choose a thread that will take dye well if this 
is a possibility


Beth
Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Celtic KNotwork patterns

[Beth Marshall]

If the braids are fairly narrow, could you carry the threads for the 
second braid across the back of the first? (sew them into the pinholes 
either side of the braid, of course)


Will only work if the braids are fairly solid, otherwise the threads 
behind will show through the finished piece; it would probably be ok for 
wider braids so long as the threads are tied at all the sewings (to 
prevent distortion if the loops catch on something when the lace is 
taken off the pillow) and the piece will be mounted to hide  protect 
the back of the work.


I think I came across this technique while dabbling in honiton - can 
anyone more expert in honiton explain a bit better?
(I've also used with it overcrowded footsides  trails in coarse 
beds/cluny work where pairs needed carrying in footside or trail for a 
short distance (up to about a cm looked ok - better than if I'd cut them 
off and tried to darn in all the cut ends)


Beth
In a frosty Cheshire, NW England
with snow forecast tonight - makes a change from all the rain lately


On 13/01/13 08:37, martina.dewi...@web.de wrote:

Hello,

thank you very much for your help and ideas to my search for a celtic knots 
bobbin lace
pattern.
  I found out, that there are/were some books but most of them are out of print.

But I found some individual patterns and I try to order one in UK. And I will 
also attempt to
use a simple drawing for a pricking. The problem to solve is the weaving of 
the braids
without too many cut threads.

It is always great, to go to this list and ask a question and to be sure to get 
helpful response.

Thank you and I will show you the result when it is finishe.

Martina in Germany

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Re: [lace] celtic knots pattern in bobbin lace wanted (sort of)

[Beth Marshall]

I think almost any celtic knot design could be converted quite easily 
into milanese or other tape laces - just by tracing the outlines of the 
knot and adding pinholes at an appropriate spacing, then work whatever 
braids  fillings feel right for the width/shape of your knot sections...


I'm sure there are embroiderer's pattern source books or children's 
colouring books on the celtic theme would have  plenty of outline 
drawings to start the design process off.


Or draw your own knot and make a pricking of it, maybe basing it on a 
knot in something you've seen in a postcard or photo or while visiting 
an historic site?


Beth
In a chilly Cheshire, NW England, with snow forecast for Sunday 
night/Monday - might not be a good start to the working week



On 12/01/13 01:39, robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 martina.dewi...@web.de wrote:
for a dear friend I would like to make bobbin lace in celtic knots pattern. I 
have seen this
some years ago on the Deutsche Klöppelkongress (the annual German bobbin lace
congress). I have consulted the internet, but can't find any pattern for 
this.-

There's a design I've long wanted to do.  It's actually a cross stitch pattern 
in Ulrike Voelker's (then Lohr) box of dragon designs.  I think it would work 
up wonderfully in a Russian-style tape--it's of several snakes intertwined.  
Each one a different color (or all of them white with different color center 
gimp).

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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Re: [lace] more Honiton - colour dominance

[Beth Marshall]

But (at least in torchon or other laces with a regular grid/pin spacing) 
in a cloth stitch area with all the passives the same colour, surely 
there will be almost the same amount of each colour thread in the 
finished block?


n passives doing 1 row each = 1 worker doing n rows

Beth
(Cheshire, NW England)

On 06/01/13 08:01, Lorelei Halley wrote:

Robin and Susan
The weaver color dominates simply because there is more of it.  Look here for
an example.
http://lynxlace.com/images/r29o.jpg   Tensioning doesn't have anything to do
with it.
Lorelei

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Fwd: Re: [lace] Honiton, Lady/Unicorn bobbins Nativity thread

[Beth Marshall]

hi again

can't find DMC retors on any of my usual online suppliers, so it 
probably has been discontinued a few (?possibly more than a few?) years 
ago, but DMC Broder Machine 50 should be a pretty close substitute (as 
should Madeira's Cotona 50 or Finca cotton - haven't got my copy of 
threads for lace handy to check whether 40/50/60 is the nearest 
equivalent of the Finca ones)

Happy New Year to everyone

Beth
Cheshire, NW England - grey, damp  peculiarly warm for the time of year 
but at least it's stopped raining (for an hour or two, at any rate)


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [lace] Honiton, Lady/Unicorn bobbins  Nativity thread
Date:   Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:09:34 +
From:   Beth Marshall b...@capuchin.co.uk
To: hottl...@neo.rr.com



Hi Susan

I think the thread is spelled DMC _retors _rather than retours  (though 
I have a hazy memory that it  - or at least some of the colours which 
used to be available- may have been discontinued.

Regards

Beth

In a grey, damp and unseasonably warm Cheshire, NW England

On 03/01/13 20:58, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:
Last but not least, looking over the sweet  very charming Nativity p
 attern by Jean Horne, I got snagged on DMC Retours 50.  It's probably 
 operator error on my part, but I didn't find it l!
   isted in Threads for Lace unless this is the discontinued flower thread 
 that seems to have a different number.  Suggestions?  Sincerely, Susan Hottle,

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Re: [lace] New Year's gift

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Lorelei

That really is beautiful - I hope someone does make it up and post a 
picture on the Arachne photo album for us all to see...


(I suspect my honiton technique isn't quite up to it, and won't have 
time to improve them until I retire so unfortunately it probably won't 
be me)


Best wishes for the New Year to all

Beth
(in Cheshire, NW England)


On 29/12/12 23:04, Lorelei Halley wrote:

I have posted a bobbin lace collar pattern of my own design, for free, on my
website.
http://lynxlace.com/collarF19.html

It is a part lace design and can be worked using Honiton or Duchesse
technique. I would say it requires intermediate level skills in either of
those styles.  There is no instruction along with it, so you have to be able
to figure out how to work it on your own.  It is a sort of macro scale and
would probably best be worked in DMC Retors 30 or 50, or equivalents.  Some
parts of the design could be abstracted and used as largish brooch designs or
appliqués.


I drew the design over 20 years ago, but never got around to working a sample.
My eyesight is deteriorating and sewings are becoming difficult to see. So I
think it unlikely I will ever work the design myself.

If you decide to work it or any part of it, please send me a picture!

Happy New Year
Lorelei Halley

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Re: [lace] Early Lace in London

[Beth Marshall]

Lace is often very faithfully depicted on portraits from that era, so 
the National Portrait Gallery would be worth a visit if images of lace 
are of interest to eke out the surviving real pieces


(It's years since I've been there, but I seem to remember some 
spectacularly detailed lace on portraits of Elizabethan notables...)


Beth
in a damp, grey Cheshire (NW England)

On 22/12/12 21:05, Jennifer McNitt wrote:

I'm considering taking a trip to London next year, and I was wondering if
there are any particular places I should visit to view early laces outside of
the VA which is already on my schedule.I'm primarily interested in
Tudor/Elizabethan era laces.

Thanks!

Jen

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RE: [lace] Thread on one bobbin - joining in new threads

[Beth Marshall]

When joining in new threads, twist the old (nearly finished) one and the 
new thread together (about 20-30 times) and use them as if they were one 
thread for a couple of rows - IIRR it was Alex Stilwell suggested this 
to me in a previous discussion of this topic and having tried it on a 
fairly thick-thread (40 linen) piece of Cluny it really does give a 
near-invisible join in cloth stitch, and the twists make a strong join 
so you only need to run the threads together for a short space.


When you've worked the threads together enough to make a secure join 
undo any remaining twists, lay aside the old thread and carry on with 
just the new one.


I haven't tried this in half-stitch yet, but I think if I really needed 
to join in a new thread in a half stitch area this method would make a 
strong and fairly unobtrusive join (but would need a couple of rows 
extra in the join to hold secure, because of the looser stitch texture)


Beth
In Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Colour run

[Beth Marshall]

If the neckline is an awkward shape to design/make a piece of lace to fit 
without pulling the 
garment out of shape, a wide edging sewn to one edge of a piece of fabric can 
be pinned or tacked in 
place where the lace-trimmed upper edge meets the sides of the neckline and 
tucked inside the 
garment. 

(I quite often pin a fairly large lace-edged hankie - folded in half to get a 
double row of lace - 
as a modesty piece inside a rather too deep v-neck jumper)

Beth
In a very windy Cheshire, NW England

On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011, you wrote:
 This neckline is a sort of horseshoe shape, but I will keep your bigger V
 in mind for that shape.

 I had wondered about the shape pulling on the garment rather than sitting
 well, myself.
 Sue T
 
  Sue wrote:  Having never yet made anything that actually had to fit
  clothing yet I have no idea where to start.
  Maybe a paper pattern shape drawn with some seam allowed extra?

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Re: [lace] Arachne

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks for putting things so succinctly Alex, I'll second that view.
(though if I do start taking time to look at the ning and other groups 
available I'll have no time 
at all for actually making lace)

Beth,
Cheshire, NW England


Alex wrote:
 Thank you both for Arachne, this unique method of keeping in touch with
 lacemakers worldwide. Please do not change it, I enjoy it just as it is and
 when new sites come on stream it is the ideal place for sharing the news so
 that those who wish to use them will have the opportunity.
 
 Hope you go on for ever.

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Re: [lace] Needle Tatting - request for resources

[Beth Marshall]

I can't shuttle tat due to arthritis in the joints of my thumbs, particularly 
the left one (can't 
hold/manipulate the thread round the hand) - do you think needle tatting would 
be easier/more 
comfortable in this respect?

I can't sew or embroider any longer due to said arthritic thumb, so would like 
a portable craft for 
train journeys (bobbin lace is definitely not manageable on the sort of crowded 
commuter train I use 
daily)

Beth
In a rather chilly Cheshire, NW England

Sue T wrote:
 I slso cant manage shuttle tatting due to hands and shoulder problems, so
 found the Barbara Foster book helped enough to actually achieve a 30 year
 ambition to learn tatting.  

Lynn wrote
 I had problems with shuttle tatting, so I purchased, Learn Needle Tatting
 Step by Step  by Barbara Foster.  

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Re: [lace] Demonstration idea and spread the word

[Beth Marshall]

I'm not sure how many lace teachers would be comfortable with their contact 
details being listed on 
an open-access webpage, but could web- addresses (and email ones if the group 
has a general email 
address for enquiries) for lace organisations like IOLI, Lace Guild be on the 
hand-out?

Then anyone interested could look up or contact the nearest organisation to ask 
for teacher info. -
I'm sure most regional/national lace groups will try to answer requests from 
non-members for info on 
lace classes/teachers/groups in their catchment area, although smaller groups 
may not have the 
ressources to deal with a large volume of enquiries promptly.

Beth
Cheshire, NW England

On Tuesday 18 Oct 2011, you wrote:
 Three other lace makers and I demonstrate lacemaking -bobbin lace and
 tatting -  in the public area of the American History Museum in
 Washington, DC one hour per month. There is always lots of interest in
 both watching and trying our hands-on-pillow. Often well over 100
 people stop by to watch and ask questions in that hour. People come
 from all over the US and the world. Many would like to find a local
 teacher, but we feel somwhat limited in what information we can give.
 The IOLI website is one source, but I wonder how many could find a
 teacher from that? Giving out individual addresses of teachers or
 groups listed in the IOLI Bulletin might not be very safe. I would
 love getting ideas for making a useful handout with websites listing
 teachers, as well as beginning techniques, in the US as well as in
 other countries.
 When demonstrating I always wear some of my bobbin lace jewelry that
 I have designed and made, just to show that one can have fun with lace
 and lace can be worn today. Since I generally demonstrate on an
 Ipswich lace from 1790 I have reconstructed, I feel it is nice to show
 the contrast.

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Re: [lace] The Paris Point, by Martine Piveteau - Book Review

[Beth Marshall]

The book is in fact on the editions l'inedite website, but for some reason is 
in the section  
Collection Patrimoine de la Broderie Europeenne (European embroidery 
heritage) rather than 
Patrimoine de la dentelle (lace heritage).

It's also available on Amazon.fr, currently at 20.9 Euros (not including 
delivery charges).

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England

Jeri wrote:
 The Paris Point, by Martine Piveteau - Book Review
 
 Here is information from a book written under the direction of Mick
 Fouriscot, published by L'inedite (_www.editionslinedite.com_
 (http://www.editionslinedite.com)  - not  in English) in France, 65 pp
 Hardback with color/pricking patterns/working  diagrams, 2008, ISBN
 978-2-35032-137-0.  I purchased from Holly Van  Sciver at the IOLI
 convention, $35.  Perhaps this book is out-of-print at  the publishers.  I
 could not find it on their web site..

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Re: [lace] Card versus photocopy paper

[Beth Marshall]

I've always pre-pricked onto card, mainly because I was taught to do it that 
way and find that I 
understand the pattern much better when I start the lace if I've spent the time 
pricking and inking 
in the markings, but I've just realised I could never make lace without 
pre-pricking - I rely on 
feeling the pre-pricked holes under the pin, only look for the pinhole/dot if I 
can't find it with 
my fingers!

Beth M
in Cheshire, England where it's a beautiful spring day outside - sunny, with a 
breeze tossing the 
daffodils and blowing cotton-wool clouds across the sky.

Sue Harvey wrote:
 I was taught to pre-prick onto card, the reason given was your lace is
 only as good as your pricking, rubbish pricking, rubbish lace.  I have
 also found that if the light is not very good it helps greatly if  it is
 already pricked.

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Re: [lace] Modern Square Cut beads.

[Beth Marshall]

Brian wrote:

I have quite a few in my bead stash, bought from whichever bead supplier(s) 
happened to be at  lace 
days/lace fairs I've been to over the last few years, so someone must be either 
making them in or 
importing to the UK.

Did anyone else see any at the Christmas Lace Fair 2008 or 2009? Or at the 
Nantwich lace day two or 
three years ago?

Beth
Cheshire, NW UK

 Most historical beads are produced by modern bead makers, but I do not know
 if I have ever seen modern square cuts with the file indentations on
 them.
 
 Have you?
 
 Are they around?  If so where?

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Re: [lace] pictures

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Lorelei

There are some real beauties there. a really nice surprise for a wet bank 
holiday morning!

Best wishes for 2011 to all arachneans.

Beth
(in Cheshire, England, where the rain is turning to yet more snow to replace 
what it has washed away 
overnight)

 you wrote:
 Here is areally nice Milanese fan.  The same lacemaker has a lot of nice
 pieces in the same album.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/samag5180/MisTrabajos03#5359529389873792754
 
 
 For all our arachneans I wish a new year full of long, bright lacemaking
 days, and may your threads never break.
 Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Lace Guild magazine

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Angela and everyone

Mine arrived on Saturday, so the Royal Mail are only just getting to the end of 
them...

Beth
in a horridly wet, cold, windy Cheshire

On Monday 08 November 2010, you wrote:
 Hi All
 For those of you living in the UK, have you all received your copy of Lace
 this quarter? 
 I have just had a phone call from a friend saying that she and several
 others are still waiting for their copy, which reminded me that I hadn't
 received mine either.
 The Lace Guild say that they should all have arrived by now so will be
 interested to know if you've received yours or not.
 Thanks
 Angela
 Sussex
 
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Re: [lace] UK Lace 140

[Beth Marshall]

Have other Lace guild members in the UK received their copies yet? I'm pretty 
sure I haven't had 
mine - normally arrives right at the end of the month it's dated (this will be 
the October issue), 
so I suppose it could still be  in the  post...

Beth
in a very rainy Cheshire, NW England

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: [lace] UK Lace 140
Date: Friday 05 November 2010, 05:29:12
From: Malvary J Cole malva...@sympatico.ca
To: Lace lace@arachne.com

I can now see what everyone is talking about.  My copy of Lace arrived this
morning.  It was mailed by Air Mail on 30th September.

I wonder where it has been.  I hope that it visited some nice places on its
way to me.

Malvary in Ottawa where I have just one strip of curtain left to make (to
replace one that I have just cut off)

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Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins

[Beth Marshall]

I do this too, a handful of bobbins with leftover thread are very useful for 
eking out a too-short 
thread. I'd love to use hackle-pliers, but  don't have any yet and my 
lace-materials budget this 
year is precisely zero so I'm using what I already have and making sure I don't 
waste anything...

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England


On Friday 08 October 2010, you wrote:
 I have some spare bobbins with thread left on them and when using short
 lengths of thread - for example, doing Christmas decorations or the gimp in
 a bookmark, I tie my short length of thread to the existing thread.  I
 especially do this when getting beginners to do the Springett Snake.
 
 I don't like thread tied to bare bobbins, too much trouble to get the off.
 
 Noelene in Cooma
 nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
 
  I am finding this little thread of to tie or KNOT to tie(pun intended)
  your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing.  What are the reasons you
 
 tie
 
  or not to your bobbins?
 
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Re: [lace] Knotting threads onto bobbins

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks Alex

I've been doing this ever since I started lacemaking, except that I'd never 
heard of twisting the 
two threads together - even without that the joins are unobtrusive in cloth 
stitch or cloth-and-
twist areas, but it doesn't work in half stitch. I'll try the twists next time 
and see how the look 
compares.

Beth
NW England

Alex wrote:
 Traditionally the
 English lace workers would keep working until the bobbin dropped off then
 tie on a short length of waste thread with a weavers' knot. They would
 work until there was just sufficient thread left to make a join when a new
 thread was knotted to a pin at the side, brought down through the pins and
 both threads twisted. They would continue working with the twisted thread
 until the join was stable, perhaps about 1 inch (2.5cm), when the
 remaining twists were removed and the knotted thread laid back and cut off
 later.  I have been using this method for years and you cannot see the
 joins.

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Re: [lace] Cluny lace.

[Beth Marshall]

If your enquirer understands a little French, I'd highly recommend Modèles de 
dentelles au fusau : 
Cluny by Mick Fouriscot  Mylene Salvador   Cluny de Brioude, dentelle aux 
fuseaux by Mick 
Fouriscot  Odette Arpin .

The first of these starts with the basics, so might not be quite what your 
acquaintance wants 
(although some of the later pieces in it are beautiful and reasonably 
demanding), the Cluny de 
Brioude book is more advanced and has some beautiful patterns.

They are both available from Amazon.fr  if more local lace suppliers don't 
stock them. as is a brand 
new third book in that series, Cluny de Brioude: dentelle polychrome by 
Odette Arpin.  I haven't 
seen a copy of that on yet (Guess what's just gone on my birthday wish list!), 
but it's likely to be 
excellent.

The diagrams in all these books (and many on other laces from the same 
publisher) are excellent, so 
good that it would  possible to work the patterns without knowing any French at 
all if one has a 
reaonable knowledge of basic Cluny technique.

The only English language book on Cluny (rather than Beds.) lace I know of is 
an old Batsford one by 
Pam Nottingham (?) and probably out of print now.

Beth
in a rainy and rather chilly Cheshire, NW England


Liz  wrote:
 Can anyone help, please. - I have had a request for some patterns of Cluny
 lace - more advanced rather than simple level.

 If someone could  point me in the direction of a good book or 2, that I can
 pass on to my friend I would be very grateful..  

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[lace] Valuing antique bobbins

[Beth Marshall]

Hello everyone

Just got back from an evenings chat with my neighbour who came back yesterday 
from visiting family 
in Northamptonshire... bringing all her MIL's lace equipment with her. MIL has 
given up lacemaking 
due to poor eyesight and arthritic hands, and has given Sue the task of 
disposing of it. MIL had 
learned lacemaking as a child, then took it up again in the 1980's - her 
pillows are modern 
polystyrene ones, but her bobbins are all antique ones from an older lacemaker 
(or possibly several 
lacemakers...) who'd given up.
I had a lovely evening looking through them all - I don't think I've seen so 
many antique bone 
bobbins in one place before.

 Sue's daughters aren't interested in them at all, and Sue has no intention of 
trying lacemaking 
herself so she wants to sell the bobbins - does anyone have any ideas on how to 
value them, or how 
to go about selling them without too much time and trouble? There must be about 
a hundred bone 
bobbins, mostly decorated in some way and quite a few have names or mottoes, 
and even more wooden 
ones. 
(I'd love to have them all myself, but there's no way I could afford that many)

Regards
Beth
in Cheshire, NW England 

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

[Beth Marshall]

This bag certainly looks very similar to the one on Christiane's blog - I don't 
know if there's a 
video of it anywhere, but the slideshow photo-instructions are still there on:

http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html

The text is in French, but I have an English translation of it to use with the 
slideshow - email me 
privately if you would like a copy.

Beth
(b...@capuchin.co.uk)
enjoying the sudden warmth in Cheshire, NW England

On Thursday 20 May 2010, you wrote:
 Has anyone seen this posting on youtube? I haven't been able to find out
  any info on getting one or the pattern to make one. Anyone have any leads?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IoPTlVQOWk
 
 
 MariCarmen in Minnesota
 
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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag (now bobbin holders)

[Beth Marshall]

I like them crocheted out of shirring elastic (the very narrow round elastic). 
They're just a strip 
of double (or treble if your bobbins have big heads) crochet (English stitch 
names - I can't 
remember which way to adjust for American terminology) -very easy to make.

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England


On Thursday 20 May 2010, you wrote:
 Beth shared:http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html
 Now what I like about that pic, is what appears to be crocheted bobbin
  holders (like a crocheted ladder or entredeux)?  I haven't seen that
  before, tho' it is perhaps common to most of you.
 That could be a pretty cool thing to make with some fairly stretchy yarn
  (with lots of twist or Fixation which is cotton with spandex).
 Has anyone made these?
 Best,Susan Reishus(who has got to go get something done, other than email!)
  LOL
 
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[lace] Re: News from Germany

[Beth Marshall]

Might this be the same new online shop as the one someone on Arachne received  
a free sample issue 
of a new lace pattern magazine from recently - I've deleted the message, and 
haven't time to go to 
the archives for it today, but the site/online shop was cetainly Brugges 
based...

Beth
in a sunny Cheshire, NW England, wishing I could be outdoors gardening instead 
of indoors working

Noel Dumont was there, passing out flyers and
 telling everyone that he was about to launch an internet lace shop.  

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Re: [lace] what is a plioirs?

[Beth Marshall]

A plioir (from the french verb plier, meaning to fold) is a device to wrap 
your finished lace 
around - useful when working yardage, keeps the tail of finished lace behind 
the pillow tidy and 
uncrumpled.
I just use a piece of dowelling with holes drilled through the ends to pin it 
to the pillow, but the 
French plioirs are real works of art - much prettier.

Beth


On Tuesday 23 March 2010, you wrote:
 Thank you for posting this wonderful site Sof, the workmanship is equisite
 but what exactly is a plioirs - there was a page for plioirs for lace and
 one for plioirs for ribbon, I could see the difference between them but
 don't understand what they are used for.
 Nicky in Suffolk
 
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Re: [lace] French lace equipment website

[Beth Marshall]

Yes, commerce equitable  in English is Fair Trade (and in England we're in 
the middle of fair 
trade fortnight - what a good excuse to buy more lace equipment!)

Beth
in a windy, showery Cheshire, NW England


On Monday 22 March 2010, you wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is a new french web site : http://www.materieldentelle.com/
 
 Bobbins, pillow and boxes are inspired by Queyras (Alps - France).
 
 Plioirs are more inspired by Le Puy and arround.
 
 This man open a workshoop in Madagascar, teach to local workers and now
 come back to France. He give normal  money to madagascar workers : In
 french it's commerce équitable, in english I don't know , fair trade?
 
 I got bobbins, pins and plioir from him at home : wonderfull.
 
 Dentelez bien
 
 Sof with a nice day
 
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[lace] lace-y Christmas presents

[Beth Marshall]

Hope you all had a good Christmas.

Did Santa bring you all some nice lace-y presents?

I'm really pleased with my lace present haul this year - I received la 
Dentelle de Bayeux a l'ecole 
de Rose Durand from my DH, and spent my MIL's Christmas cheque on Alex 
Stilwell's All about Bucks 
Point Lace (+ a spool of very pretty pale blue finca thread to make the lace 
in...).

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England
where the snow has now melted, but it's still icy.

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Re: [lace] quiet

[Beth Marshall]

Yes, we're here - I'd noticed the list was very quiet, assumed the Americans 
were still recovering 
from Thanksgiving!

Thanks for the comments about Flanders - I asked for (and got) a book on 
Flanders (the French one, 
by Catherine Maze?, from Editions Dider Carpentier), but haven't started any 
yet. I too feel that 
most of the beginner's pieces are not very pretty, but binche is beautiful (if 
I ever get that far).

Beth
in a very rainy Cheshire, NW England

 Lorelei wrote:
 Heooo?
 Is anybody out there?
 
 I'm working on a Flanders piece I started about 5 years ago.  

   I can't say I really like the way Flanders looks.  The learning patterns
  especially are just plain ugly, but necessary. More advanced designs and
  many modern ones are very beautiful.  I find it to be an absolutely
  necessary preparationg for Binche, which is why I started it. I really
  enjoy working the ground.  And the easy parts that I've really mastered
  are fun.

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Re: [lace] Needlelace Christmas Tree (was Which Book to Buy?)

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Lenore

Well Done! The Christmas tree is beautiful - looks so good no-one would know it 
was made by a 
beginner.
I'm almost tempted to use your design myself. I will resist the temptation, as 
I've just started an 
ambitiously large needlelace collar of my own design (autumn leaves), which 
would keep me busy for 
years even if I gave up bobbin lace! The thing I like about needlelace is that 
it's so easy to 
design your own pattern: if you can draw (or trace, or photocopy) it, you can 
work it in needlelace.

Beth
Cheshire, NW England

 Lenore wrote:
 I have finished my little Christmas tree, I added red beads to the
 cordonnet, and called it done. Here's a link to my blog, if you
 haven't seen the finished project:
 http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com

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[lace] Re: Kantcentrum

[Beth Marshall]

I managed to find the (? an) Belgian newspaper article via Google and used 
google translate to get 
it into English - according to the article (dated Friday 6 Nov) the decision to 
go into liquidation 
was only taken on Thursday (ie 5th Nov)  so the employees/centre users would 
not have known about it 
when Anne was there two weeks ago.

According to the article the decision was caused by financial problems 
following the axing of 
government grants three years ago, combined with the need to find a new 
location as the owners of 
the present site want it for another use.

If anyone understands Dutch/Flemish, the original article is at:
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/942/Economie/article/detail/1026295/2009/11/06/Brugs-Kantcentrum-gaat-in-
vereffening.dhtml

Beth
in a rather chilly Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace]Rebozas de bolita

[Beth Marshall]

Tamara wrote:
 I can't find any of those photos to check it out but, doesn't rebozo
 de bolita mean bobbin rebozo?

Not quite - bobbins are bolillos in Spanish; bolitas are small balls - or 
bullets, so these 
rebozos de bolita are more likely to be something for carrying spare bullets 
hands free and within 
reach!

Beth 
in Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Re: box folders

[Beth Marshall]

Hi everyone

I'm intrigued by this - can't quite visualise the folder from Tess  Tamara's 
descriptions.
This was the nearest I could think of:
http://www.ryman.co.uk/Europa-A4-Portfolio-01350104.asp 
In the UK, these are more often seen in plastic than cardboard nowadays, under 
a bewildering variety 
of names (wallet, folder, portfolio according to the manufacturer's whim) - any 
stationer will have 
various sizes of plastic ones in stock. 

If these are what Tess is after I'll buy a handful while they're on special 
offer and hold a raffle!

Beth
in a showery Cheshire, NW England

Tamara wrote:
 It's a *single* folder -- not expanding, not a box -- much like ours are, 
 except that they do not
 have the spine holes to put them into a binder. But, instead of opening
 like a book -- two parts, each with a little pocket at the bottom --
 it's more like an envelope. There's a little flap on top and the
 envelope is held closed with a piece of elastic , which slides over a
 corner. 

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Re: [lace] Cost of linen thread

[Beth Marshall]

Linen that fine, and in colour... wow!...at that price I'll buy just what I 
need for a project, 
rather than stocking up with as many colours as take my fancy, but I'd 
certainly be willing to pay 
that price for it (linen that fine wasn't cheap even when it was readily 
available, and even when I 
started making lace a quarter-century ago I never saw any that wasn't white or 
ecru 
(natural/unbleached).

Beth
Daydreaming of patterns to work in fine, coloured linen
in a blustery Cheshire, NW England - my new mini greenhouse blew over yesterday 
evening and battered 
a standard lavender in its fall.


Brenda wrote:
 A couple of months ago I wrote about the possibility of a new coloured
 linen thread becoming available.

 Well I now have a sample of the finest size which I have measured as
 34 wraps/cm - heavy point ground or fine torchon thickness.   Would you be
 prepared to pay 12-15 Euros, 10-12 GBP, 18-21 USD for a 250 metre
 spool of fine, coloured, linen thread?

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Re: [lace] pattern prickings

[Beth Marshall]

I think it was architect's linen that is good for needlace, rather than 
architect's paper for bobbin lace prickings.
(I suspect architects no longer use architect's linen now that everything is 
designed on computers and printed/photocopied ad lib)

Beth
enjoying a rare sunny day in Cheshire, NW England and getting ready to host 
our lace group tonight 


Sue wrote:
 We are currently using some architects paper for pattern making before
 cutting some weird shape in wood, but in the back of my mind I am thinking
 I have heard that architects paper makes good Lace Pricking
 paper/parchment. Do any of you researcher lacemakers out there know if I am
 right.  

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Re: [lace] For the Irish lacemakers!

[Beth Marshall]

Lynne

Forgive my ignorance, what does a St Bridgets Cross look like? - I've never 
heard of one before, but might recognise the shape!

Beth
in a showery Cheshire, NW England

Lynne Cumming wrote:
 The church is a modern
 catholic church designed around a ceiling shaped as a St Bridgets Cross so
 I wondered if any Arachnes in ireland (or anywhere else) knew of any
 patterns that incorporate the design? 

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Fwd: [lace] brides

[Beth Marshall]

I've only done modern needlelace, not reticella or punto in aria, but my 
understanding is that reticella doesn't have the couched outlines (in later 
needlelaces they replaced the fabric surround of reticella).

I have done Hardanger embroidery, which also has holes cut into the fabric and 
filled with decorative stitches: from my experience of that, it is absolutely 
essential to keep the fabric taut in an embroidery hoop or frame when doing 
cut- or pulled- work embroidery, as the work gets pulled out of shape 
otherwise. I would expect the same to be true for reticella. If possible, It's 
best to fix the fabric into the frame before cutting/pulling threads, to keep 
the weave straight.

Beth
Cheshire, NW England

Lorelei wrote:
It is my understanding that the outlines of motifs would be couched because
that is what determines the shape of the motif.  But brides are connections
between motifs, and are put there to prevent large holes in the lace; they
give it more stability.  

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Fwd: Re: [lace] Interesting item

[Beth Marshall]

I thought it looked a bit like a rather ornate end for an embroidered bell-
pull; the detachable end knobs would help get the textile part on (and off for 
cleaning)

Beth
Cheshire, NW England

Liz wrote:
At first glance it looked like a bobbin with loose rings.  Then I looked agin 
and I have never seen anything like it.  Does anyone have any idea what it is 
or what it is used for?

 An interesting item on eBay. Click on the link.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-VICTORIAN-BONE-THREAD-WINDER-HOLDER-or-
BOBBIN_W0QQitemZ260455836135QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Crafts_Sewing_Supplies_MJ?hash=item3ca460a9e7_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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Re: [lace] Visit to Bruges

[Beth Marshall]

The Lace Museum is well worth a visit. (I could have stayed for hours, but I 
was with my Mum who isn't really interested in lace)

It's very close to the Kantcentrum, which is also worth visiting - if there 
are lacemakers working there when you visit you may be able to watch/talk to 
them (though when we went none of them spoke much English, and never try 
speaking French in Brugges - you'll usually get a very frosty response). The 
Kantcentrum shop has loads of patterns, as well as threads, bobbins, etc.

There's also a museum of old Flemish life in the same street as the Lace Mueum 
- I can't remember the name, but the sign outside has a black cat on - with 
rooms set up like  homes/workshops (bit like the street they used to have in 
the Castle Museum as York, if anyone remembers that). One of the rooms was a 
lacemaker's cottage, and some of the costumes in a more upper-class room have 
lace on. 

I'll see if I can find the map of Brugges later and look up the street name 
for the Lace Museum. It's quite a walk from the central square (about 20 mins 
IIRR), in the opposite direction to the main coach park, so a taxi sounds like 
a good idea if time is limited.

Enjoy your visit Brenda - Brugges is lovely

Beth
Cheshire, NW England

Anne wrote
Did you go to the Lace Museum last time?
It is in an old church.  The day we went they were also running
classes in one of the show rooms/class room.

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Re: [lace] Can anyone tell me

[Beth Marshall]

It sounds like a close relation of the circular pincushion with little chinese 
people all round the sides I bought several years ago, and don't use because 
it bends all my lace pins!

Mine was definitely described as a pincushion wherever it was I bought it!

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England where the whether is finally warming up, and might 
even dry off too before long.

 Sue wrote:
 I bought what I thought was a little
 pincushion, sort of triangle shape with a rounded bottom covered with a
 chinese style fabric and two little chinese people clinging to the sides
 but when I got it home it seems too hard to stick pins in.  Does anyone
 know what it is I bought?

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Re: [lace] NELG web-site

[Beth Marshall]

It's coming up as that for me too.

If anyone on this list knows someone at NELG please let them know there's a 
problem with their website, so thier web-site people can take action.

Beth
in sunny Cheshire, NW England
(rained in the night too, which my garden was badly in need of) 

pene  wrote:
 Would other lacemakers please see if they can access the NELG website at
 http://www.nelg.us/? For me it is coming up as a Reported Attack Site.
 Is it just me or for everyone?
 Thanks,
 Pene

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Re: [lace] Needle lace

[Beth Marshall]

I've only done a little needlelace, several years ago - I can't quite remember 
how I decide where to start and finish a cordonnet, so I can't help with that 
question. 

I used the Grimwood book alongside Catherine Barley's book - I found 
Catherine's instructions pretty clear as a near-beginner, IIRR. 

Beth
waiting for the gathering clouds to produce some rain for my garden
in Cheshire, N W England

Mica J wrote:
 Also, are there any other books recommended for beginners?  I also have
 Lovesey's book, but do not find it as good for a total beginner.  

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Fwd: [lace] Couvige pic

[Beth Marshall]

Interesting - it's at the far right of row 3 on my screen!

It does look very nice, though.

Beth
Cheshire, England
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Subject: [lace] Couvige pic
Date: Friday 12 June 2009
From: Susan Reishus elationrelat...@yahoo.com
To: post to Arachne lace@arachne.com

There is an interesting travel roller pillow with quilted cover and
accoutrements in the link that Jean provided, third row down, far left (first)
pic:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jean.leader/PierrefeuCouvige#

Some may prefer a hard case, but looks like something one could make, or
perhaps Vera Bradley needs to be contacted!  LOL
Best,Susan Reishus

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Re: [lace] My block pillow and how to squeeze it

[Beth Marshall]

could you get strips of foam or polystyrene cut to fit the gaps? 

Beth
In a rather wet Cheshire, NW England

On Wednesday 10 June 2009, Debora Lustgarten wrote:
 Thanks for the kind replies to my post,
 I got a 9-block pillow and put a layer of craftstore felt on top and
 bottom of each block, before covering it with plain cotton fabric. I
 mentioned quilting because it is the printed cotton fabric typically
 found in quilting stores.
 I've tried wrapping the blocks as flatly and neatly as possible, but
 the pillow base is about 1/2 bigger on all sides, so I may have to
 put a spacer, as suggested.
 My worry is that the pressboard's sides are thin bars of plastic,
 stapled to the board, and I don't want to force them and possibly
 break them...  Any ideas on this?
 The grossgrain ribbon idea sounds good, too.
 Hoping to tap more brains,
 Debora L.

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[lace] quiet list

[Beth Marshall]

The list seems very quiet - I've not seen a message since Friday- so this is a 
test to see if things are working.

Lace content: in between clearing my garden shed (to be demolished today) I've 
been working on my latest lace project: I've adapted the wide insertion from 
the latest set of Retournac patterns to make a square motif. This has created 
some very sharp v-shaped direction changes in the trails, to add to the 
technical difficulties already there. I'm working with three/four cluny/beds 
books beside me, plus the encyclopedia of lace techniques (whose title/author 
I have temporarily forgotten), but I'm mostly fudging it - trying things to 
see what works.

I'm using a salmon pink Goldschild linen, which is unusual for me, I usually 
work in white or ecru but I want this for a cushion cover to harmonise with 
the other cushions on my sofa. It's a very nice thread to work with although a 
bit wiry and springy compared with cotton, it needs firm tensioning after 
every stitch.

Hope the radio Silence is because everyone's too busy making lace to write 
emails.

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] want to unsubscribe and resubscribe to my current/private email

[Beth Marshall]

Hi, Carrie

Just in case you haven't already had a reply from someone else (and in case 
anyone else needs the answer):

just replace unsubscribe with subscribe in the instructions . You'll get a 
message back from Majordomo telling you what to do next.

I did the unsubscribe/resubscribe recently to change addresses. Having very 
little faith in my technical ability I subscribed the new address first and 
then unsubscribed the old one when I started getting two copies of every 
message.

Beth
in Cheshire, England

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Re: [lace] Re: Aluminum Bobbins

[Beth Marshall]

I have a couple of the aluminium bobbins commemorating the CD 2000 project, 
and they are lighter (and a little slimmer) than any of my wooden bobbins.
I love the sound they make, but I personally feel they're too light to use for 
anything except fine thread lace.

I see that the RGS engineering describe their aluminium bobbins as being about 
the same weight as bone bobbins. I only have one bone bobbin, and it's quite a 
small one compared to my wooden midland ones, so ... how do other people find 
bone bobbins compare to wooden ones in weight?

Beth
in a rather showery Cheshire, NW England

 I was thinking more that they seem very light and I've got a couple of
 light bobbins that I find don't handle as well as the heavier ones -
 especially with regard to tension.


 Lesley

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Re: [lace] Beds lace in silk

[Beth Marshall]

Whatever Beds is supposed to be like, I reckon soft and flowing is much more 
appropriate for a hankie edging than crisp and firm - we don't want anyone 
scratching their eye as they ostentatiously wipe away a tear at a wedding or 
funeral, do we...

Beth
Cheshire, UK

 I made a couple of Springett's Beds handkie edges in silk, and mounted them
 on some cream Bridal silk - and we all thought them lovely.  However, both
 christine Springett andf Barbara Underwood saw them and went Yuk

 Beds lace, apparently, is supposed to be crisp and firm and lay straight
 when laid over the hand, - not soft and 'flowing' like my silk
 lace!

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Re: [lace] moving lace and mooring threads

[Beth Marshall]

Thanks for the directions, Sally

I've always preferred moving the lace up the pricking rather than using a 
block pillow and moving the blocks, but it had never occurred to me to turn 
the pillow around while I put the pins back in - that makes it much easier to 
do!

Beth

On Monday 11 May 2009, Sally Schoenberg wrote:
 Many thanks to Bev for finding the address for the mooring threads message.
 That's a technique for stablizing a pricking on your pillow without bumpy
 pins that is well worth another discussion.



 Here's how I move lace...there are a lot of words here, but it all goes
 much faster than it might seem at first glance:



 I prefer to move when the lace is mostly ground (point, binche, torchon,
 whatever) and a bit beyond a completed cloth stitch area.  When moving Beds
 or a tape lace, I look for a place where the trails are converging and wide
 cloth stitch areas are completed, and the number of bobbins is low.



 1.  Lengthen all the threads (leashes) to at least 12 inches long, more if
 you are new to moving lace.  If you are slow at lengthening/shortening
 leashes, then this good practice for you.  I used to be slow but now
 lenthening/shortening goes quickly for me and I don't avoid it.



 2.  Put all your bobbins on sticks or knit stitch holders.  Stack all your
 sticks/holders on top of each other on top of a large handkerchief or light
 weight dish towel that has been placed on your pillow.



 3.  Fasten the large handkerchief/towel very tightly with pins of any kind,
 by knotting the handkerchief corners, or by tying a ribbon.  Make
 absolutely sure that the sticks/holders and their bobbins are completely
 immobilized.  The cloth that you use to bundle the bobbins needs to be
 lightweight so that you can really pin or tie the bundle tightly.  Thick
 cloth won't let you get a good tight bundle.  You should be able to safely
 toss your bundle around after you've taken your lace off the pillow.



 4.  This is the key ingredient: fasten the handkerchief opening so that all
 of the threads are coming out of a teensy weensy hole just big enough to
 let the threads through.  Sometimes I tie a ribbon or thread around the
 threads and a bit of the handkerchief.  Sometimes I have enough
 handkerchief to tie a square knot with two corners around the threads. 
 Sometimes I use a couple of lace pins.  It is vitally important that
 pulling on the bobbin threads outside the bundle will not result in any
 bobbin movement inside the bundle of bobbins.



 5.  Take all the pins out of your lace.



 6.  Move the pricking to a more comfortable spot on the pillow and TAKE A
 BREAK.



 7.  Rotate the pillow 180 degrees so you are looking at the pricking and
 lace upside down compared to how you are usually looking at it when you are
 making lace.



 8.  I begin by putting in one pin right in the middle and exactly on the
 most recently worked edge.  Sometimes it helps to have worked to a point
 before starting the move.  Then I put in more pins slowly working back
 towards me (remember, I'm at back of the pillow) and outwards towards the
 headside and the footside.  Feeling stressed?  TAKE A BREAK!  Even a couple
 of minutes can really help to keep your hands dry, cool, and relaxed.



 9.  Carefully do just a few of the headside picots.  I don't think it's
 necessary to do very many.  When I distort anything, it's usually a picot
 so I don't like to force them.  I have found that replacing 3 picot pins is
 sufficient in my experience.



 10.  Get some of the footside pins in.



 11.  Fill in 1/2 to 1 inches worth of pins.  I have many times filled in
 only 1/2 inches worth of pins but then, in that case, I immediately work
 1/2 inch's worth of lace.  Be very careful when tensioning as you start to
 make lace again.  Look for any movement of thread and buckling of lace.  If
 that happens, turn the pillow around 180 degrees and put in more pins where
 the movement occurred.  There are usually a few pins in the lace that I
 worked just before moving that I have to do over again, two or three at
 most, and maybe a picot needs to be redone.



  I have seen Anne Marie in Bruges wrap all of the threads around a large,
 heavy pin in a kind of half hitch (I think that is the name of the knot - I
 can do it, I can draw it, but I don't know if I can call it by the right
 name) and then leave the bobbins hanging loose off the edge of the pillow
 while the pricking is moved, the lace repinned, etc.  The principle is the
 same, you just need to be sure that you have a very long length of thread
 on all the bobbins between the heavy pin and the worked lace, and that
 tugging on the leashes between the worked lace and the heavy pin does not
 move the bobbins beyond the heavy pin.



 One more story...I have large Flanders handkerchief edging that I had
 completed halfway when someone needed to borrow my pillow.  I was not doing
 well at the time and, to tell you the truth, I couldn't be too concerned