Re: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database

[MJMethod]

re: record count: select Help, then General  Information will display 
counts of Individuals, Surnames, Families, and  Master Sources.
 
re: re-use of RIN's: This is from Legacy Help Index for "RIN":
The first way that Legacy manages the reuse of abandoned record numbers is  
with an option in the Customize area that tells Legacy to fill in the  
unused numbers whenever new records are added.  This option is set by  choosing 
Options > Customize and then going to the Data  Defaults tab and selecting 
the Reuse Abandoned RINs at the  center-left. 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 9/25/2009 11:52:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
paddypeppe...@yahoo.com writes:

Do RINs  get re-used when you delete an individual? I just deleted 2 
unlinked persons  and I assumed that their RINs would be gone  forever...

Marilyn


--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Jenny M Benson   wrote:

> From: Jenny M Benson  
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Count of People  in Database
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Date:  Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:12 AM
> DianeLeMasson wrote
> > I  am still using ver 6
> > How do I find out how many entries of people  in my
> database?
> > I've check the help & the archives,  could not find
> anything to this.
> > Unless I am not typing  in the right search words.
> > Do appreciate your help on this, thank  you.
> 
> Just open the Name List and look at the Title Bar - it  will
> say "Name List Contains n Individuals."
> 
> I'd  never noticed that before!  I've always relied on
> looking to see  what was the highest RIN.
> -- Jenny M Benson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Christening to Baptism

[MJMethod]

Select Options, Customize, Data Format, and it is on the right side as  
"Term for Christening"

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 9/25/2009 11:38:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rngad...@madisontelco.com writes:

Can  someone tell me how to change the CHR for Christening to Baptism?   
Somehow all of my Baptisms have changed to Christening when I moved my  
file to my laptop.  I am on vacation and I cannot find the info in  the 
help files.  







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Re: [LegacyUG] Grave Transcriptions and Photo--Where?

[MJMethod]

IMHO, I think you are taking the Burial event too deep [pun intended]. 
Like Sources, the photos are a documentation, and at least as real as a  
Sexton's records, etc.

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 9/9/2009 7:26:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
whbosw...@gmail.com writes:

I just ran into this  while still cleaning up my data.  I have a custom 
category called "Grave"  that I created in Family Tree Maker some time ago.  
This is usually where  I attach photos of the grave, the date of the visit, 
and grave  transcriptions.
 
Ordinarily I would just  leave this, but I'm still moving cemeteries over 
to where they belong and want  to get rid of all cemetery names from my 
Master Location List.  Something  tells me I should not, but I'm only going by 
what I saw in the online  video.
 
I don't think it should  be attached to the burial event since these photos 
were taken many years  later.  Is there a specific place grave photos and 
info. should  go?  There probably is a place, but I haven't found it  yet.
 
Bill






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Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist vs. GedStar Pro

[MJMethod]

The answer is touched on in the article, but to be blunt:
- Pocket Genealogist if you have (or want) Windows Mobile
- GenStar Pro if you have (or want) Palm OS
 
After that, there are lots of features and factors,  e.g.
- Size and format of screen, etc, of the  smartphone
- Pocket allows update/syncing of device; GenStar  does not.
- etc.

Mike


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In a message dated 8/11/2009 1:29:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
deanbuc...@gmail.com writes:

I've just read "Bring your Legacy file with you" on the Legacy News  page.  
 
Does anyone in the group have experience with Pocket Genealogist or  
GedStar Pro?  I have a Palm ES2, but I am contemplating the purchase of a  new 
cellphone with the thought of reducing my "gadgets" so that I just have  one 
mobile device.
 
Is there anyone on the group using either one of these programs on a  
cellphone?  If so, which one, and how well does it work with  Legacy?  I would 
like to be able to carry my information with me and be  able to easily sync 
with my desktop computer when I return home.  
 
I understand that Pocket Genealogist may be the best, but I'm restricted  
to AT&T as my carrier, but I'm not so sure about the quality of the  Windows 
mobile based cellphones.
 
Or - would it be better for me to keep my Legacy on GedStar  Pro on my Palm 
and have a separate cellphone?
 
I hope this will be considered on topic, since my whole purpose is being  
able to carry Legacy with me in the field.  Any advice?
 
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem

[MJMethod]

You will probably want to add a couple of criteria to limit the  records in 
the list, e.g. for the 1930 census you would want: Individual, death  date, 
equal, blank OR Individual, death date, after, 1929

Mike

Michael J Method

phone=  317-284-1303 
family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 8/9/2009 7:41:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lask...@att.net writes:

Pat,  

OK, I found the post -- it was the December 2006 issue:  "How to  create a
list of "ancestors with no  sources"

http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/12/index.html

Basically,  follow these steps but change the "Sources" to  Events.

Valerie


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From:  k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of  Valerie Laskowski
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:22 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Search  Problem

Pat,

You have to "reverse engineer" this.  A sample  was also shown in one of the
Legacy news articles.  Heres the gist of  it:

1.  Do a search for all individuals with a "census" event and  then tag them
with a number; let's say 9.
2.  Next, search for ALL  Individuals with Tag 9 = untagged.

Valerie 

-Original  Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com  [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Pat
Sent: Sunday, August  09, 2009 4:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup List
Subject: [LegacyUG] Search  Problem

Is there a way that I can search for those persons who need  Census events?
For example:  
1) All persons who might appear in  the 1930 Federal Census

Thanks,
Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another Idea On Place Holders, Pseudonyms Etc.

[MJMethod]

My solution is to use "m/" as a prefix on the spouses name, e.g. "John  
Smith married Susan m/Smith". This makes the "fake" name very recognizable, 
both  in Legacy and in my head. 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 7/23/2009 1:09:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net writes:


I  have used somewhat made up names a few times, just to help me keep 
things  straight while doing research on a particular line.  Like, using  
"Johnswife" and "Jamesswife" etc for surnames on all the "Elizabeth" without  
surname spouses belonging to brothers & cousins of the same  age/generation.  
And 
one time I was trying to track the tick marks on a  few consecutive early 
censuses, when my  grandfather remarried very soon  after his first wife 
(my  grandmother) died giving birth to my ggg  grandfather "leaving 4 
orphan children".  Used "Johnsbrother" and  "Janesboy" etc.  In fact, I think 
those are still in there.  I am  working on other lineages right now, so 
they haven't popped out at me  lately.  Not anything I would leave in to 
publish, though!  I will  look at using the [[privacy]] bracket... see how it 
looks on book  reports.
Thanks for that suggestion!
--Paula


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>  be happy with my
> solution.  I put in the name that I know, be it  given
> or surname, and then
> put [spouse of John Smith], or  something similar, as
> the missing
> name.  This way,  when I see it, I know who this person
> hooks up to. 
> Of  course, I then have to go to the Exclude From
> Potential  Problem
> icon and say that the illegal characters are not
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> being.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

[MJMethod]

Bob,
This kind of option has been touched on before - basically "personal  
preference".
 
I am normally a "lumper". Obituaries go into Source Detail Text (if  
transcribed) or Source Detail Multimedia. I don't expect to reproduce them for  
everyone, unless there is something unusual, noteworthy, or well-phrased. If 
so,  I accept the redundancy of copying or extracting what I need into Death 
Notes or  General Notes or elsewhere.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 7/15/2009 7:22:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
s...@cox.net writes:

A few  days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in 
version 97 -  it turns out there is no problem - just me

Subject topic - What are  the recommendations or group thoughts on where to 
put Obituary text?  I  have placed most of them in the event area and 
entered the obitiuary/writeup  into the text/comments block.  When I prepare a 
Book/Narrative, these  appear in the end notes.  Now I am wondering if placing 
them in the  General notes would be more appropriate.  When reading a book, 
the  general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a 
concise  entry showing the idata is at the end.  

In accounting there are'  Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is 
the 'Generally Accepted  Genealogical Entry' for such items.  Or - is it a 
personal  preference?

Bob






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Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"

[MJMethod]

You have two options:
1. Attach the PDF or jpg or text doc to the event (or to the Source or  
Source Detail)
2. If your scan software has the option of OCR, you can convert the scan to 
 text, then paste it into the event (or Source or Source Detail). [My 
impression  from what you said is that you simply changed the filename 
extension 
to ".txt"  but didn't actually convert it.]

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 5/4/2009 3:08:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wlrho...@gmail.com writes:

I have  some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from 
the  original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & 
paste  into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. 
Even 
 though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I 
am  unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I 
know  but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Editing notes and sources

[MJMethod]

Simple answer: Yes. When you use SplitView, simply don't select a different 
 family file.
 
Better yet, make a copy of your family file, then open that one as a second 
 file, but do all of your editing in the original. If you run into a 
problem you  won't lose anything.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 4/20/2009 11:25:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wdukst...@gmail.com writes:

Regrettably, all of my sources are embedded in my notes.  Is  it possible 
to view my family in "split view" mode with my family in both  windows.  Can 
I then view my notes for Individual1 in window 1 and then  edit the sources 
of Individual 1 in window 2?  My objective is to be able  to view the notes 
and sources in one window and then edit them in the other  window.  Bottom 
line, is that I am trying to find an easy way of entering  all of my sources 
without having to print on paper all the records in my  database.  Any 
guidance would be greatly  appreciated.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

[MJMethod]

It doesn't sound like you are copying sources to the clipboard
 
- If you are on the Sources screen, highlight the source you want to  repeat
- in the bottom left, click on the clipboards icon, then click  
"Copy/Overwrite Existing"
- highlight another event you want to use the same Source
- click the "Add clipboard source" icon (just above clipboards, looks like  a 
"-" sign), then you can edit the detail for the different event, or you can  
click Save. Note: if you are also going to be repeating the same detail, you 
can  un-check the "prompt for detail" box in the bottom left before you Save. 
Then  you won't be bothered with it each time.

Mike


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In a message dated 3/9/2009 1:27:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pastors...@gmail.com writes:

I have  never been able to have a clear understanding as to this
question: Is it  possible to do something OTHER than saving, closing,
ETC., several times,  to add the same source to each aspect of a
person. That's not clear, sorry.  What I mean is this: When putting in
information about a person, right now  I am having to click, save,
etc., for each fact, such as Name, Birth,  Death, Burial, when usually
it is the same source for all of those. I'm  spending hours. Surely
there is a better way. What am I  missing?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Intellishare question

[mjmethod]

I suspect you just had a glitch in the transmission or the process you used. 
The name that you each use doesn't matter. I've been using Intellishare with my 
sister for several years via email, CD's, and jump drives with zero problems. 

I am assuming that the jump drive worked (you imply that but didn't explicitly 
say so). 

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "I exported my family file to a Legacy file 
and saved it under a different name." You could have used "File | Save Family 
File as" or used Windows Explorer to copy and save to another name.

Mike Method

researching Method, Feehely, Fredrick, Herzog, TenEyck, Belsley


In a message dated 02/01/09 09:38:03 Eastern Standard Time, 
deanbuc...@gmail.com writes:
My husband has heard me talk about his family history long enough and now he 
wants to get in on the action.  Yay!  We have separate computers so I decided 
that the Intellishare option would work for us.

I have read the Help Center article and understand what I'm supposed to do when 
he sends me the file AFTER he's made changes.  

I exported my family file to a Legacy file and saved it under a different name. 
 I e-mailed the file to him.  When we tried to open it through Legacy on his 
computer, it did not work.  It had the .fdb extension.  Luckily we're in the 
same house, so I could copy the file to a jump drive and move it to his 
computer.  But I'm wondering, what happens when the person you're sharing with 
is in another state and e-mail is the only way to transmit the files back and 
forth?

Does anybody have any ideas or experience with this?  The only problem that I 
can think of is the possibility that the file name I used for the e-mailed 
version (send to rick.fdb) was not a good name.  When I exported to my jump 
drive, I used a one word file name.  Could that explain the problem?

Dede Holden

Re: [LegacyUG] Washington D.C.

[mjmethod]

There are no longer any other legal "towns" in D.C., though some of them 
certainly are still neighborhoods like Georgetown. That's the result of the 
1871 legislation.

Also, D.C. used to include the Arlington area across the Potomac. That area was 
returned to Virginia (perhaps as part of the 1871 changes).

Mike Method

researching Method, Feehely, Fredrick, Herzog, TenEyck, Belsley


In a message dated 01/31/09 10:50:31 Eastern Standard Time, 
cranberryf...@charter.net writes:
Yes, you are right.  I checked the Geo and it is 
Washington, District of Columbia, District of Columbia, USA

It sort of makes sense because beleive it or not, there are other "towns" 
within the District of Columbia  according to the Geo.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: Cathy Vallevieni 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Washington D.C.


Wikipedia explains:  The City of Washington was originally a separate 
municipality within the Territory of Columbia until an act of Congress in 1871 
effectively merged the City and the Territory into a single entity called the 
District of Columbia. It is for this reason that the city, while legally named 
the District of Columbia, is known as Washington, D.C.   Based on this you 
would enter Washington District of Columbia as the City with no county or state 
and USA as the Country.  However, I think I would use Washington as the city, 
District of Columbia as the County or State and USA as the Country.

AniMap Sitefind states Washington as the City, District of Columbia as the 
County and DC as the State but I don't think that's any legal description, just 
an easy way to find it.

I believe the Geo Locator in Legacy states:   Washington, District of Columbia, 
District of Columbia, USA (or maybe this is something I inadvertently added)

For short location I have entered:   Washington, DC.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 06:58 AM 1/31/2009, you wrote:

What is the correct way to enter Washington D.C. as a long and a short location?

Jim 



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Re: [LegacyUG] To Tim and others

[mjmethod]

Windows 7 will be the "operating system" successor to Vista, probably sometime 
this year (certainly NLT next year). A lot of nice improvements (or changes, 
depending on your point of view). It is already in the Testing phase.

Legacy 7 is quite independent from that. It is the "application" we are using 
and it works fine under Vista as long as you follow instructions and do not 
install it in C:\Program Files. (I don't think that will change in Win 7.)

Mike Method

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In a message dated 01/29/09 01:01:33 Eastern Standard Time, t...@cablelan.net 
writes:
I must not write on this list any more re computers, but just to let you know 
that I cannnot find the site I was on.  I spent an hour just now and the best I 
could come up with is Consumers Report.org - but that was not the Microsoft one 
I found the info on.  I am sorry about that.  One thing I found that was 
interesting to old me - Windows 7 and Vista are practically the same thing - it 
says.

Tish

Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Question

[mjmethod]

Bob: I don't believe there is any way of the photo printing from there (at 
present; hopefully it is in the future for Legacy).

Work around: create an event (e.g. "Gravestone", leave all of the narrative 
blank, attach the photo)

Mike Method

researching Method, Feehely, Fredrick, Herzog, TenEyck, Belsley


In a message dated 12/26/08 06:09:49 Eastern Standard Time, s...@cox.net writes:
In setting up individuals data, I wanted to add a gravestone picture.  Under 
the 'Buried...In... +... ' and selecting 'Burial Pictures', I added the photo.  
Please advise if the only way the photo will appear in a '...Book 
Report--Descendant Narrative...', is to add it to the picture gallery and mark 
it as the 'preferred' photo? I suppose I could print photos outside Legacy as a 
page and physically add it to the book when i print it. 

I am curious about what purpose the 'Burial Pictures' and/or the 'Multimedia' 
feature  serves if it can not be printed with a book or other reports? Are 
these two features just to review the data on screen? 

Bob 

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering funeral home data, funerals, visitations, etc.

[mjmethod]

I do not treat funeral information as a separate event, but rather as notes in 
the Burial event. And any source material (e.g. a funeral card) is another 
Source attached to Burial.

Mike Method

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In a message dated 11/16/08 19:44:56 Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
I am still very much a newbie with Legacy.  I have over 9,000 names to enter 
from my FTM family file.  I have been experimenting with about 50 names from my 
own family file.  Before I get too far, I would like to make sure that I am 
handling some basic information in a way that I will not regret later on.  

Specifically, I'd like to know how others enter information such as funeral 
information,  funeral homes, memorial service and/or visitation, etc.  Would 
these be considered events in Legacy?  If so, none are in the event list and so 
would I create a custom event?  

Thanks,

Vicki

Re: [LegacyUG] When legacy does not like a town - Rumney Marsh, Massachusetts, USA

[mjmethod]

Your choice. And don't worry about the Geo Location Database. 

Traditional genealogy would have you show the original location, Rumney Marsh, 
then explain in notes how it evolved to Revere, Mass.

Others find it much easier to use the present-day name and then explain the 
history.

This isn't unusual. Think of how frequently we see something in a biography 
like "He was born in Chicago (or London, or Paris, or Los Angeles, etc.)" when 
the technical reality is that he was born in some suburb or other jurisdiction. 

Mike Method

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In a message dated 11/10/08 20:50:57 Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
I am extracting information from the 1909 issue of The New England 
Historical and Genealogical Register. The title of the article is 
"The Floyd Family of Rumney Marsh*." Part of the asterisk is below: 

"Rumney Marsh, which was then the northernmost district of Boston, 
became a part of Chelsea in Jan. 1738-9, and is now the town of Revere, Mass" 

Members of this family were born in Rumney Marsh. Do I enter Revere, 
Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA for their birth place? Legacy does not 
list Rumney Marsh in its Geo Location Database. 

Re: [LegacyUG] Reports

[mjmethod]

MessageSimple - Use Search - Detailed Search - Individual - Birth Place (or any 
other location) - Contains - (whatever term you want, e.g. Chicago, Illinois). 
Add other criteria if you wish, e.g. Before - 1950, etc.

Mike Method

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In a message dated 10/31/08 18:03:39 Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Hi

 I have just changed over to Legacy 7 from family tree and was wanting to know 
if I can get a report to show a list of people born in a certain area or died 
in a certain area.

Also a report showing what relationship I am to people in my tree. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated.

Regards


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Re: [LegacyUG] One couple, two divorces

[mjmethod]

There is nothing to prevent you from "marrying" them twice. Legacy makes it 
easy. 
Enter the marriage, then within that show status as Divorced, perhaps also add 
an Event for the Divorce. Save. Right Click on husband or wife, select Add | 
Husband (or Wife), and do the same again for the re-marriage. Then add the 
children.
{I know because I've done it accidentally!]

Mike Method

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In a message dated 10/18/08 11:58:49 Eastern Daylight Time, jboltonlug writes:
My husband's parents married, had no children, divorced. Then 2 yrs later 
married, had 2 children, then divorced. How do I record this in the marriage 
info? I have them listed with the second marriage info and under status as 
divorced with the info of that divorce. How do I record the first marriage 
correctly so that no one will think I made a mistake by recording two 
marriages, and two divorces? Any ideas?

Juanita Bolton




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Feature... what am I doing wrong?

[mjmethod]

Bring up the mapping, move the cursor on the map until you can place it where 
you want it, then Right Click and answer Yes.

Mike Method

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In a message dated 10/12/08 19:10:45 Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
I have an issue with the Mapping feature as pertains to an individual. Let me 
explain with an example: 

Louis T. LEFTWICH was born in Virginia in 1823. At some point, he moved to 
Tennessee, in what is now Putnam County, but then, was Jackson County, in the 
Eastern part of the state. 

When I clicked on Mapping to check on locations, I discovered that Jackson 
County was actually represented as Jackson, TN, which is in Madison County in 
the Western half of the state. I've adjusted latitude and longitude to show the 
correct location, but the map still shows the city of Jackson. I've added the 
work "county" to the location, but there is no change. 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible?

[mjmethod]

To my knowledge, No.

Issue: Have you used Source Detail with the specific records? If so, they would 
also be lost. That may be OK, depending on what you are trying to do.

If you want to actually delete the original source from the database, you could 
simply "edit" it and transform it into the new source, thus "assigning the new 
source to all of those places".

If you need to continue the use of the original source, you could a) make a 
minor change to the title of the original source, then save it as a new source, 
then b) edit the original source to transform it (as suggested above), then c) 
re-edit the source you saved in a) to restore it as you wish.

Mike Method

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In a message dated 09/12/08 14:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Is it possible to tag every instance of when a particular source was used, 
delete those sources, then assign a new source to all of those places? 

michele 

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

[MJMethod]

That's what the Nickname capability is for, in quotes (e.g., James Robert  
"Bobbie" Smith).
 

Mike

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In a message dated 8/15/2008 1:18:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Some  of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
of  their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the  one
they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my  problem arises
when printing out reports is that the first given name is  always used.  For
instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is  the given name he uses but
in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn  was born Oct 21, 1910.

I am one of these people who uses my second  name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to  state the used
given name properly?

Thank  you

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume & Page Number

[MJMethod]

I wouldn't consider it an "event".  My choice would be to put  that in the 
Marriage Notes. 

Mike

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In a message dated 8/15/2008 8:31:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I want the Volume & page number to print out on reports, not  just on the 
source.  The only solution I've found is to make a  marriage event including 
the 
Vol. & pg number, I also include  the recorded date and officiator when I have 
it.
 
It looks like it would be so simple to have a space for this  when you add 
the date & place of marriage. Adding marriage events  just makes the reports 
longer, and there is plenty of space by the date  and place line on the Family 
Report for other information.
 
I was wondering how others handle this.
Thanks,
Syble Glasscock

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Re: [LegacyUG] Vista and V 7 and new computer - any helpful comments please ?

[MJMethod]

Zero problems with L7 and Vista. And Vista itself is fine, very stable  
(unlike a couple years ago when it debuted). And the "Vista replacement" (it is 
 
being referred to as "Windows 7") won't be available until at least 2010 and  
probably much later.
 
Re: V7: Just follow the download/installation directions. Key thing is to  
NOT install it in the Program Files directory. They recommend the C drive,  but 
I put it in my "User" directory.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 8/14/2008 7:54:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  about to buy a light weight laptop - any suggestions

I have been trying  to avoid Vista BUT I am wondering whether I should not
bite the bullet and  get it now as it is probably inevitable that I am going
to have to do that  in a year or two anyway.

1. Do you think that all the  bugs have been sorted out in Vista ?

2.How is V7  performing with Vista

3.Are there any special tasks  required when installing V7 with Vista.

4.I would be  pleased to receive any helpful comments

Regards from Valerie in sunny  Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,  Wicklow &
Wexford 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marking non-family members

[MJMethod]

I use a label in the name's Title Suffix, usually [[NOL]] ("not our  line") 
but sometimes other labels.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 8/8/2008 9:26:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In St. Louis, there were 3 men with the same name who  married women with the 
same first name.  I've decided which line is  mine.  I want to keep the 
others, and their descendants, in the  database so I can tell who is who.  I've 
tagged the line that is  mine so I can tell them in the name list.  

My challenge is  when I export the information to my pda none of that 
transfers.   Does anyone have that challenge of marking non-family members?  
Any  
suggestions?  I thought about adding something after the name of  each person 
but 
I don't want to cause any trouble with any other  function such as using []

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Auto Geo Coding

[MJMethod]

In a message dated 8/6/2008 11:02:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I do not  like the format, Johnson, Texas, USA or , , Texas, USA  because
we do not  normally write it or say it that way in everyday  usage. Those
extra commas are ugly in a report.

Is there a way to  keep it from incorrectly coding?
I haven't found any way of "preventing" the incorrect coding, only "fixing"  
the location by locating the preferred spot and right clicking.
 
re: the commas: 
I agree they can be ugly, but they can be useful if  you are producing a 
"draft" for discussion with someone.
Also, they are easily suppressed in reports by  selecting Report Options 
| Format | and then checking "remove one or more  leading commas from 
locations" or "remove two or more leading commas from  locations" 
 

Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Image Naming Standards

[MJMethod]

You've had a couple of good suggestions in other notes. My 2 cents:
 
I use a MRIN-type naming, but most all are in a "MRIN+Surname+Given  
Name+type of image" format. The "type" could be various descriptors, e.g.  
census, 
will etc, it may have a year or date, it may have some other "cue" such  as 
"wedding of xxx".
 
Most importantly, 
- New images from any source (scans, downloads,  etc.) go into a working 
folder named 
"!not sourced or filed"
- When I work on those images (editing the image  name, enhancement, 
cropping, etc.), I also decide if this is an image which will  be attached to 
Legacy or just stored. And, if it is to be attached, I may need  to make a copy 
of 
it at a lower resolution (if I do, I put a "w" after the MRIN  # because it 
is essentially a "web"-size image).
- Then I move the image. I keep all genealogy  images in a directory of 
"My genealogy archive" - separate from the "My  Pictures" folder (some are 
redundant in both). Mine are generally by family  name, but some 
sub-directories 
are Geographic or major events.
- Not everything gets attached to Legacy. For those  which are, I move a 
copy (or move the "w" version) to another folder which  only contains Legacy 
images. No confusion or searching  for "what did I do with ???".
 

Mike

Michael J Method

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote:



 
I  would love to have some examples of Digital Naming Standards from which  to
choose.  My digital image has grown rapidly.  Each of my 8  primarily family
lines has its own file folder but within each folder.  Is there a preferable
way to name each digital image -- such as  first name, last name, or last
name, first name, etc.

Thanks for  your  suggestions.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to Search All Individuals that have a Burial Place?

[MJMethod]

Regarding this last note comment of "came up with the same 168 individuals"  
- check the radio buttons in the bottom left. You may have it set to "only  
search the Search List". You want to "Clear list before search".
 
Regarding your basic search question: You can do it in one search. 
1st condition: Individual | Living | Equal to | No. 
And
2nd condition: Individual | Burial Place | Equal to  | [blank]
 

Mike

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In a message dated 7/20/2008 11:05:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jane:

The first time (doing it the way I originally described) I  came up 
with 1800+ individuals (probably everyone in my database).   When I 
did it JL's way, I came up with 168 individuals.  After your  message 
I tried it again the original way and came up with the same 168  
individuals as JL's way.  Maybe I did something wrong the first  
time?  I guess both ways work

Thanks for your  help!

Cathy Vallevieni

At 07:50 PM 7/20/2008, you  wrote:
>Cathy,
>I followed your detailed search criteria and came  up with a long list too.
>To prove my search was valid, I re-ordered the  list by RIN. Finding a few
>missing RINs, I jotted them down and looked  at a few of those individuals
>(that is the missing RIN folks). Sure  'nuff, they had no burial place. The
>list may be long, but it does show  all in your file with a burial place.
>The few not on the list had no  burial place. This is Ver 6 Deluxe.
>Regards, Jane  Tripp
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Cathy  Vallevieni
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>Sent:  Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:14 PM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] How to Search All  Individuals that have a Burial Place?
>
>I want to create a list  of all individuals that have a burial place
>entered.
>
>I  tried "Detailed Search with the criteria "Burial Place" "Not Equal
>To"  and then left the "What to look for" field blank.  That  resulted
>in all my individuals.
>
>Anyone know how to get a  list of individuals that I know the burial  place
>for?
>
>Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Formatting paragraphs

[MJMethod]

1. I think you have a problem with your setup or install. I suggest you  
contact Legacy Support. 
The limit on a note is huge. I don't know exactly, but I believe it can go  
many pages.
 
2. A new paragraph is either a) pressing Enter twice to leave a blank  line 
between paragraphs, or b) pressing Enter followed by Ctrl+Tab for a  standard 
indent, or c) pressing Enter followed by adding as many spaces as  desired.

Mike

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In a message dated 7/20/2008 3:19:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Question  1:  Is there a finite number of words that one can put into a 
general  of an event?  I would like to write a small essay in my own 
words and  have it appear in a report as is.  Typing stops when I get a 
few  lines input, however.

Question 2:  How does one cause a new  paragraph to start?  I don't find 
"paragraph" or "new " in either the  manual or the Help.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to record two marriages

[MJMethod]

I agree. I have a relative who Married (civil) in Massachusetts. Then a  
wedding in the bride's church in Ohio. Then a wedding in the groom's church in  
Michigan. As far as I know, only one "license" (Massachusetts), but two other  
church records.
 
I have attached Massachusetts source information to the Massachusetts  event, 
then included all of the rest as narrative in the Marriage Notes and  
attached the other source info to those notes. (I only use "alternate" events  
when 
there is a question of validity/accuracy.)

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 7/19/2008 5:25:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I think  we have to distinguish between a marriage and a wedding as they are 
not the  same thing.
There can only be one Legal marriage ceremony (that which the  State 
recognizes as granting the legal benefits of marriage) but there can be  an 
infinite 
number of wedding ceremonies.



- Original  Message 
From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:48:06  PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record two  marriages


Jack,

I've an uncle and aunt who were married  twice.  They first married in 
a civil ceremony in the city clerk's  office of New York state.  Since 
the groom's mother didn't like the  bride, they kept the marriage a 
secret from the mother for several  months.  The bride mentioned the 
civil ceremony to her parish priest  who then married them a second 
time in the church in the state of New  Jersey.  It happens!

As to how I entered it, I went into the  couple's first marriage 
record and at the bottom of the screen, clicked on  the "Add" button 
and added the event "Alt. Marriage" where I added the  second date and 
second location so that both events were shown under the  Marriage window.

Cathy H.


At 11:32 AM 7/19/2008, you  wrote:
>I have a couple who got married twice in the space of 6 weeks  and wondered
>what the best way was to record this in  Legacy.
>
>I found two possible marriage entries for the couple in  Kent, England in
>1868
>Sep 1868 Medway  2a  619 and Sep  1868 Medway  2a  645
>
>I've just bought both  certificates and found that they are definitely the
>same couple. One  marriage was on July 2nd and the other on August 22nd at a
>different  church. Both marriages were by Banns and both described  as
>bachelor/spinster. There's nothing on the certificates to say one  was null
>and void.
>Never seen anything like this before and so  I'm totally confused!!
>
>Also, does anybody know why (or how) a  couple would get married twice in the
>space of 6  weeks?
>
>
>Jack








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Re: [LegacyUG] geo code

[MJMethod]

Two choices, either way you'll have to correct them one-by-one, working in  
the Location Master List:
 
1. Highlight the location. In the Virtual Earth map navigate to the  accurate 
(or preferred) location. Right Click. Click OK.
[as an aside, when working with a general location  like "Michigan" or 
"England", I like to position the pin either where the name  shows on the map 
or 
at the capitol city, so I can quickly recognize it.]
 
2. Highlight the location. Click the Globe (Geo Options Menu). Select Geo  
Location List. Search for the location, make your choices, and save.
 

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 7/14/2008 12:43:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Version  7 has auto geo code all my uncoded locations. Many are wrong How do
I reset  this?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Followup to Discussion about Periods after Initials.

[MJMethod]

 
In a message dated 6/30/2008 1:34:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<>
 
I had a Father-in-Law who had a "middle initial" of "L" - not a middle  name, 
always without a period, and sometimes required (on certain legal  documents) 
to sign it as "L (i.o.)" [meaning "(initial only)"].

Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[MJMethod]

I am a big proponent of such "estimates", for dates and locations. 
The examples you give are good and I or others could provide innumerable  
other examples.
 
I find them to be a HUGE value when looking at the screens or reports, when  
sending or discussing families with people I may be interviewing, and 
especially  when doing searches. With the new mapping in V.7, it adds another  
dimension.
 
They won't suit everyone, perhaps especially those who do a lot of website  
work or publishing trees to online repositories. 
 
For dates, using "abt", "circa", "est", "bef", "aft" or other  qualifiers is 
easily understood by the reader. Many sources, even well  documented, can 
frequently only get you close, e.g., from a census you may  [probably] know 
that 
someone was born in a specific year but even that may be a  calculation. 
 
For Locaions: I am a big user of carats < > around anything I have  
estimated. Legacy handles them well, although I understand that they may have 
an  
impact on some Gedcom usage and online repositories.
 

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/18/2008 3:32:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Group:

Now that I have Legacy7 up and running, I feel a  compulsion to do some file
cleanup but am in a bit of a quandry.  May  I have some opinions on whether
or not to add estimated locations?  I  know about various methods for *how*
to do it, but just can't decide  *whether* to do it.  If I know that, for
example, ancestors were born  before 1620 and lived in Massachusetts, it's a
pretty safe bet that they  were born in England.  By the same token, people
who were born and  died in what is now Ontario in the early 1800's were
probably married  there.  Is anything gained by showing England or Canada
(Upper/Lower,  West/East) as *probable* locations or is there a good reason
for just  leaving it blank?  Thoughts  please.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

[MJMethod]

I think you're on the right track. 
 
One comment/suggestion: 
Legacy isn't really good with large file sizes. If  you have photos, 
scans, pdf's, etc. that are large (sometimes several  megabytes), use a photo 
or 
pdf product to make a reduced  copy. I generally try to ensure that the 
"attached"  copies are no more than about 500K. BTW, this can also let you crop 
 
images
Keep the original (you want the best possible image  at some point for 
viewing or printing).
 
My basic scheme is: 
1. Everything new goes in one directory as  "research" (with 
subdirectories by topic or type or family - your choices)
2. As I work through the research, I fix the file  name, add comments or 
detail in the file properties, etc., including adding MRIN  into the file name 
if appropriate. Here's also where I make reduced-size copies,  etc.
3. I have an "Archives" directory. A copy of  everything goes in here, 
including the full size copy. And there are all kinds  of images or documents 
here that will never be attached to Legacy, but have  other value. This is also 
a key directory for "backup" when doing a general  computer backup; I can 
always recreate other uses from here.
4. I have my "Legacy" images directory. I only move  copies here that I 
intend to actually attach to Legacy, including the reduced  size or cropped 
images I made in step 2.
5. Attach files to Legacy.
 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 6/16/2008 6:04:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post  on Saturday.
 
I have been researching my family history for  about 10 years, and for much 
of that time I have used a different  genealogy programme. I was never 
completely happy with it, so I've  migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.
 
Initially, I had intended to import all my  existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided  I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the  years, inevitable, 
mistakes and 
errors have occurred, so I thought this would  be a good time to slowly go 
through it all, and make sure everything is  correct.
 
With that in mind I've been giving a bit of  thought on how I set it all up 
on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and  frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the  following.
 
 *My Documents.
 *Family History.
 *My Family History  (Legacy).
 * Certificates.  (Scans of)  
  *Birth.
  *Marriages.

 *Death   
*Census   (Scans of)
 *  UK 1841
 *  UK 1851
  *etc.
  * Parish Records  (Scans of)

*  Photographs.
  *People.
  * Places.
 *Other.
 
Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be  
appreciated.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Questions about pictures and events in reports and ...

[MJMethod]

One option I have used:
Create an event. I used "Picture only" and left all  of the Event 
Sentence Definitions blank.
When I created the event, I let Description, Date,  Location, and Notes 
show on the screen. I can enter something for my  information, but without any 
Event Sentence Definitions they won't print. 
Add the picture.  
Save. 
You get the picture without the "duplicate info". 
You may have to move it around a bit in your event list to get it to  display 
in the right place on the page.

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 6/13/2008 10:37:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You will  note the same issue with birth, death & burial events.  Like you  I
wish we did not have to make extra events to get pictures to print, but  I
believe we do have to.  For the wish  list~!


Cary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original  Message-
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Christine
Pearce
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:17 AM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 -  Questions about pictures and events in
reports and event sentence  definition

First, a belated Thank you! to the folks at Legacy for the  promptness in
which I received my v7 upgrade - it arrived 1  June.

Two observations and questions regarding the new  version:

* Options for sentence definition fields for events seem to  remain
unchanged. I had hoped to have had the new ability to add the  person's age
at the time of the event, as mentioned a number of times in  archived
messages. Does anyone know if this is planned when they update the  programme
for the Source Converter and other options/fixes?

* On the  Family tab, you can add pictures for each individual by clicking
the  picture icon, and they can be included in various reports. However,
there  is also a picture icon next to the marriage information. However, the
same  logic doesn't follow with the picture icon next to the marriage line.
In  order to get the picture to print, you have to create an event. When  a
Report prints, you get the standard info for the marriage, which  again
repeats for the marriage event, i.e.

Dick was  born... Dick married Jane... on 1 Jun 2008 in .
Noted  events in their marriage were:
Dick and Jane were married on 1  Jun 2008 in XXX... 

This seems rather silly, especially  when you've no other information to add
to the event. Is there any way  around this? Any plans to update this with
the next update? Or do people  not find this to be an  issue?

Cheers,
Christine




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help needed please?

[MJMethod]

Yes, renumbering MRIN's will throw your paper filing out of whack. Likewise  
your electronic documents and multimedia if you have used MRIN's in the file  
names.
 
I did the MRIN renumbering one time, - consciously - a couple of years  ago, 
as part of straightening up a wholesale mess in some files. It was useful,  
but I don't ever plan on doing it again.

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 6/13/2008 9:47:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank  you Bruce. You are correct about the MRIN, my mistake! That is the
method I  use after finding Geoff Rasmussen's  recommendations
(http://www.fileyourpapers.com/legacy/legacy.html). I  started using this
method before ever using Legacy itself. I have been  following your posts
about renumbering RINs and wonder, does that same  apply for the MRIN? Since
I use that method, will the MRIN renumber as well  and throw my paper filing
out of kilter?
Cheryl

-Original  Message-
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:13 AM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help needed  please?

I think you want to file by MRIN rather than by RIN.  This  is one of
the methods used by many (including myself) of filing and there  is a
description of it on the Legacy Home page (somewhere).

On Wed,  Jun 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Cheryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Thank you for the reply Cathy! I wondered if the RIN numbers were used  for
> something else, I know you can search by them in the lists. Would  you
> suggest following the filing system for my paper records using the  RIN
> numbers? By entering each family together they would then be  grouped
> together in the paper records. However if you renumber the  RINs then the
> paper records would not match. While putting records  with each family
> creates duplicates, I like being able to view them  together.
>
> -Original Message-
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
>  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 PM
> To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help needed please?
>
> Hi  Cheryl,
>
> You enter people in any order that suits you and the  sources you are
using.
> For example, if I have a sketched family  tree from a relative, I
> start at the top if it's a drop down chart and  enter everyone I don't
> have and extra details or source for those I do  have. Then I pick up
> the next piece of paper and enter whatever is on  that.
>
> The RIN is simply a computer generated number so that  the computer
> can find all the information that you enter for a  particular person
> and put it together on the screen and in reports  etc. They are
> assigned in numerical order as you enter new people. If  you delete
> people from time to time, you can ask that this now empty  RIN be
> filled with the next new people or leave them empty. That's an  option
> you set in Options > Customise.
>
> The RINs in  your old family file simply show that your husband's
> family was  entered first. The RIN is not a value judgement or an
> indication that  some people are more important than others. The most
> important people  in my file at the moment are RINs 1852 and 10350 -
> two of my  randparents who I hope to find out more about when I'm
> in England  or at least see where they lived.
>
>  Cathy
>
>
> At 07:27 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:
>>I  have been a use of Legacy since v5 and have been a "lurker" on  the
>>board for about a year. I would like to ask advice from all  you
>>wonderful experts out there.
>>
>>Is there a  specific order for entering generations and/or
>>siblings?  With  the new Source Writer, I have found I did not do too
>>terribly  entering the information by myself, however, I am reviewing
>>an old  file and manually entering the information into the new
>>format.  This has given me the opportunity to find missing
>>information,  sources and errors. I wonder though that looking at the
>>RIN numbers  in the old file they are very low on my husband's family
>>and much  higher on my family. Yes, I have 1 file with both sides.
>>With all  the information at my fingertips, I hope this is the last
>>time I  have to start from scratch if I do it right this  time!
>>
>>Thank you all for the wonderful help and advice  both on the program
>>and research. I have learned so  much!
>>Cheryl  [EMAIL PROTECTED]







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Re: [LegacyUG] Intellishare

[MJMethod]

You don't have to do anything.
Always good to do a back-up so you have a copy "as of" when you send the  
copy.
You can send a straight copy of the database or a copy of the backup. Your  
choice.
Don't forget the multimedia files if you are really  planning to 
"co-operate".
 

Mike

Michael J Method

phone=  317-284-1303 
family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 6/13/2008 5:52:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How do I set up my database for initial use for  intellishare.
 
I am getting ready to send my data to my cousin  so we can both work on it.  
Do I do anything to my database first?   Then do I back it up to send it to 
her or what?
 
Help!
 
Allen Prunty
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Small problem in editing locations for people from...

[MJMethod]

If you are directly into the Master Location List, and have located an  entry 
you want to edit, simply click the "Edit" button below the list. Any edits  
here will affect any place it is used, including marriages or marriage  events.
 
If you are simply commenting that you can access individuals but not  
marriages, I agree that it appears that way but it really is showing all  
individuals 
affected -- and the same was true in V.6.
Experiment to demo: In a test or demo file (or in  your live file [just 
remember to delete this after] - 
go to a couple with a blank marriage location. Enter an  obvious dummy 
location [e.g. "qqq"]  and save the location and marriage.  Now go to the 
Master 
Location list and locate that dummy location. You will see  that same couple 
displayed - and the only place it could come from is that  marriage record. 
[now you have to go back to the marriage record to  delete the location 
from their record before it can be deleted from the Location  List.]
 
At least they've given us the ability to edit the individuals  directly!  :-)
 

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/13/2008 8:46:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


wrote
>In Family view, you click on the person of  interest and then you can 
>click the down-arrow on location to bring up  the Master Location list 
>and then edit whatever you need.
>To  edit the Marriage, you click in the Marriage area and then you have  
>the same down-arrow ability available.

Yes, that's fine if you  are in Family View, but if, for whatever reason, 
you are starting from the  Master Location List and find some location 
you want to edit, if it is a  location attached to an Individual's Birth, 
Baptism, Death, Burial or even  an Event, you can click on Edit to get to 
the Individual's Information  Screen to make your edits.

However, if the location is attached to a  Marriage or to a Marriage 
Event, you cannot reach that Marriage or  Marriage Event directly from 
the Master Location List.  You have to  close the List, navigate to the 
Individual and then make the Edit.
--  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Finding those with sound files

[MJMethod]

I had submitted this as a bug. They have verified it and said it will be  
included in an update (timing tbd).

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 6/11/2008 6:09:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry -  that was a confusing question.  To clarify:

There are now 4 types  of attachments in Legacy:
Picture
Video
Sound
File
The first  three show up on the SCRAPBOOK list.  And any file  that is  
attached(linked) via the Picture, Video, or Sound buttons will show up in  
this scrapbook list (doesn't matter if the file is ACTUALLY a picture,  
video, or sound or something else).  But if a file is attached via  the FILE 
button, it won't show up on the scrapbook list (at least some of  mine 
don't) - and there's no check box on the SCRAPBOOK page to include  them.

Bob

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From: "Mary Fowler  Leek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008  10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding those with sound  files


> Bob,
>
> In Legacy 7, I have a sound file  that does show up at the _end_ of the 
> list created using your  instructions.
>
> My printed list shows the file path where the  file is located on my 
> harddrive and using the RIN in the Legacy INDEX  list, I can quickly jump 
> to the person with the attached sound file.  Please see the example below.
>
> Is this the type of list you  were asking about?
>
> Mary
>
>
> -- Sound  Filenames ---
> C:\Documents and Settings\Mary\Desktop\Free 
>  Music\Appalachian_Sunrise_30.mp3
>
>  Sound: Helen Hofstead  [1018]
>
>  Aplalachian Sunrise - practice  delete
>
>
> -- Video Filenames ---
>  C:\Documents and Settings\Mary\Desktop\Legacy forms, photos, 
>  reports\Fowler family  side\Wedding_Announce_Hofstead-Harkey_1926.pdf
>
>  Marriage  Event Video: Marriage Announcement: John M. "Jay" Harkey [1013] 
> and  Helen Hofstead [1018]
>
>  PDF file
>
>  C:\Documents and Settings\Mary\Desktop\Legacy forms, photos, 
>  reports\Obits\Breashears_WilliamBoyce-obit(1).pdf
>
>  Event  Video: Obituary: William Boyce "Billy" Breashears  [10429]
>
>  Obit clip
>
>  [I need to go in  and change the files noted under Video to the proper 
> file attachment,  as these were attached originally in Legacy 6]
>
>
> From:  Robert57P via Gmail
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding those with sound  files
>
> Looks like this will not work to show FILE attachment  locations! 
> (Bummer).
> If anyone figures out a way to include  them - let us know.
>
> You can get a list of other attachment  filenames/locations (pics, sounds,
> video) by doing the below.   And since you are looking for "Files" that are
> attached as a "sound" ,  this should work for you.
> VIEW
> SCRAPBOOK
> Check the  options desired (i.e.: you could probably just check SOUND files
> in  this case)
> Print Picture List
> Check the options  desired
> Preview it on screen, or print it, *or*:
>  Check  the "TEXT FILE" and then "print" it.  You can then load the  result
> into Word or Excel and sort/slice/dice.
>
>  Bob
>
> From: "GeoSci" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [LegacyUG] Finding those with sound files
>
>
>> Anyone  found a way to find all individuals with a sound file?  Would
>>  like to change those to document files and dump the Sound  reference
>> (except where I actually have a recorded sound) but can  not find a way
>> to do that.  For that matter - I cannot seem  to see a way to find
>> those with or without picture  files.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>  Keith







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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Small problem in editing locations for people from...

[MJMethod]

I'm not sure I understand what you are seeking.
 
In Family view, you click on the person of interest and then you can click  
the down-arrow on location to bring up the Master Location list and then edit  
whatever you need.
To edit the Marriage, you click in the Marriage area and then you have the  
same down-arrow ability available. 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 6/11/2008 7:08:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Editing locations is great in Version 7!!! It is also  great to directly edit 
the location on the family view if needed. The only  problem is that if you 
need to edit the marriage location your out of luck.  You have to exit out and 
look up the name and then edit the  marriage.
 
Now if there's a way to get to the marriage information  from a persons 
family view I'd love to know how. Otherwise, this needs to get  corrected in 
the 
future.
 
Thanks,
Scott  Failmezger






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

[MJMethod]

One option is to tell it to ignore the problem.
A second option is to use a prefix like "From 13 Apr 2007". Legacy does not  
require you to have the "ending date".

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/11/2008 7:39:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks  Jenny for the tip, I must get used to looking at every tab for a
while  until I get V7 to the way I like it.  Your tip reduced the  Problems
report from 16 pages to 4.

There is one little problem that  has me stumped, some time ago someone
suggested using the "Events" to  record addresses for people and it works
beaut except for a current period  as in a start date and no end date.

Event (Residence) date is  bad
[13 Apr 2007 -]
Event (Residence): This date is not in a format  Legacy recognizes. Check the
date to make sure it is valid

I have  checked all the tabs to see if there is one that would exclude the
above  but with no success so I just ignore the report for those as it is
only a  couple of entries.

Steve

-Original Message-
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 12:07 AM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]  Unknowns

JLB wrote
>v.7 doesn't like people named Unknown either  first name or last. What 
>to do instead?  Son/Daughter works when  the sex is known.  What for the 
>unknowns?   Could-Be-Either?  What about unknown first names of  
>Husbands?  Still Son?  What's wrong with Unknown?  What  for the unknown 
>last names?  Nothing?

I have lots of  Unknowns in my database, and the odd Child or Infant.  I 
have just  unticked "Descriptive words in name field" on the 
Standardisation tab of  Potential Problems and go about my merry way.
-- 
Jenny M  Benson






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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

[MJMethod]

simplest way I know: Master Locations List, Options, Print, Location List,  
then use the arrows or slide bar or Jump button to go to the end of the  list.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/8/2008 9:39:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How do  you get a count of locations?

___
Wayne  Martell
Victoria, BC, Canada

- Original Message - 
From:  Susan Daily
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, June  06, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push  pins

Dede, since cemeteries and churches, etc. are used by more than  one person, 
generally, it doesn't add tremendously to the Master Location  list (although 
I do have 1401 locations, so maybe it does). So then you  can place the pin 
for that cemetery and church more specifically. I  wouldn't do residences, 
but that is a personal preference.  






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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

[MJMethod]

When you have the map up, place your cursor where you want the pushpin.  
Right click. Answer the pop-up question and the pushpin will move to that  spot.

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 6/5/2008 9:31:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've  read the archives and I've read the help files, but I'm still a
little  confused about how the mapping and push pins work.  If these
questions  are answered in one of the new videos, let me know and I
will buy  today!

Question 1: If you have a street address for the cemetery, it  is
properly entered in the Burial Address field, which is accessed  by
clicking the arrow at the end of the Burial location field.  When  you
put it in the proper place, then Map My Places only finds the  location
entered from the Master Location list.  It does not find the  specific
cemetery.

I have read several suggestions about how others  enter this, but if
you have to enter the specific street address for each  location, won't
this make your Master Location List rather long and  cumbersome?  If
this is the only way, I have lots of work to do to get  the mapping
feature to work properly.

Question 2: For some reason,  the push pin for my parents' hometown
comes up on the same street they live  on, only five blocks south.  I
have NOT entered their address, so I'm  guessing this is just where VE
has decided to put the pin for their  town.

It "feels" like we should be able to click on the push pin and  drag it
to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is  there a
complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a  simple "not
even possible."  I don't need a detailed explanation as to  why not,
since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

Thanks  to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and  
genealogy!)

--
Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Sentence Structure

[MJMethod]

Even more, if you have preferred and frequent use of different sentence  
structures, you can edit any or all of the Event sentence structures.
The Sentence Override is a tab above the notes  box.
The Edit Event Sentence Definition is a button  below the box.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/5/2008 11:04:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
Hello  Carol, 
For  each event click the sentence override tab and create your own 
sentences. When  you type in your own, the default structure is ignored in 
preference 
for the  override. 
 
Kind  Regards, 
Mark
 
 
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:11  AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject:  [LegacyUG] Event Sentence Structure

 
Is  there a way to eliminate Legacy's sentence structure for events. I would 
like  to use my own wording in the description without Legacy adding  words.
 

 
Respectful  thanks,
 
Carol






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Re: [LegacyUG] best practice for information collaboration

[MJMethod]

Can we assume that you are both on Legacy?
If not, can you get a Gedcom from them and then use  that to create a 
Legacy database? 
 
Then 
- back up everything
- load your primary file
- select File, Import From, Legacy File, and load  the file you've been 
sent
- follow the prompts and instructions. You will be  given the opportunity 
to compare duplicates, merge, save separate, etc.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 6/4/2008 5:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I  have been encouraging a relative of mine to add family stories and
memories  to the notes section of her database.  She has also been in touch
with  other members of the family to get exact date and place information.

We  both started from the same database at a known time in the past.  I  have
a copy of that file.  Since that time I have made additions and  changes to
my copy and she has made additions and changes to hers.   Now I would like to
transfer the changes she has made in her database into  my own.

How can I identify these changes?  What is the best way to  manage the
information?

--
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Oakville ON  Canada
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Index

[MJMethod]

Try this:
Search: Individual, Individual RIN, Greater than, 0 [zero]
 
That will select 100% of records. Then, at the bottom, select Print 
 
-- then select fields, adjust page setup, etc. to your heart's content. You  
may do many Preview iterations before you get just what you want.
 
Also, note [in the bottom right] that you can save the report format you  
build. Then you can reuse that effort whenever you want.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 5/14/2008 2:37:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  sure I have missed something somewhere but, I would like
to print my index  and include sex, date of birth and birth place.

Is this possible and if  it is - baby steps please.

Thanks in advance,
Marilyn

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Re: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

[MJMethod]

For locations: I have settled on using the <> carats. The Master  Location 
list handles them just fine, and by checking the box in the lower left  corner, 
the  sorts adjacent to its partner. If I need additional  detail or 
clarification, I'll include that in the notes.
 
For dates: 
I use "Abt" when I have reasonable sourcing, e.g. a  year which is based 
on an age in a census or marriage license. 
I use "Est" when I am making a general guess, such  as approximating a 
marriage when the woman was age 21 and the husband age  25.
I rarely use "Cal", but I have encountered death  certificates with a 
"yrs,mths,days" and no birth date.
"Bef", "Aft", "From-to", and "Between" express  nothing more than what 
they are.
I don't use "Cir", because I can't draw enough  distinction from "Abt" 
and "Est".

Mike

Michael J Method

phone=  317-284-1303 
family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 5/8/2008 2:32:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a few  situations I have identified a highly probable death or
burial record for  an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
stand on its  own.  I still want to record and display this
information, yet clearly  see that it is "probable", still needing
further investigation and  support.

So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting  the
source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates  and
locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views  (Family,
Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.

In the  Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
after the  individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
display dates in  the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
Spouse/Child and  Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
on Information tab,  the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
but the location is  not.

Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations  with
angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that  the
location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same  name.
However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that  the
individual with the bracketed location is not included.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Identifying immigrants

[MJMethod]

Jay,
One option is to ensure there is an "Immigration"  event for each 
immigrant person, even if you don't know when/where.
Then you can search: Individual - Event-name -  Equal To - Immigration

Mike

Michael J Method

phone=  317-284-1303 
family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 5/7/2008 4:25:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  trying to map the emigrants to a Google map of Europe and I am hoping
that  someone can help me with a  search to show me the immigrants. I  thought
that a search for someone with a born location that doesn't contain  "USA"
and their death location does contain "USA", but I cannot get a does  not
contain field in the search.

As an alternative, in those that I  do have immigration dates I have an event
called "immigration". This,  however, will not give me all immigrants as some
of these are hard to find  their arrival. I have family immigrants as early
as 1630.

I have  been unable to create a search string that will give me what I want.  

Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

[MJMethod]

Keith,
My approach is to include all sources  pertinent to that event. 
Collectively they document the date, place,  notes, etc. 
If you wish, you can include comments in the source  detail such as "this 
documents the date but not the location", "this only  documents who was 
present", etc."

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 5/7/2008 1:21:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
How do others handle the situation where you have one piece  of info from one 
source and one from another that combine into one field. I’m  not explaining 
this well so let me give an example. 
I have a death date from source #1. 
I have a death location from source #2. 
If I allocate a source to the death date (source 1)the date  AND location are 
highlighted to indicate they are from the same source. If I  then add source 
2 that appears to relate to the date as well as the  location. 
So, can I combine the date & location OR should they be  in separate “events”
 i.e alt.death 
Appologies for the explanation (it’s late). 
Thanks for any assistance. 
Keith
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Re: [LegacyUG] Compiling single database from 3 separate Legacy files

[MJMethod]

Barrie,
OK. You have multiple Legacy files you want to merge.
- select File (top left)
- move cursor to Import From and select Legacy from pop-up window
- follow the rest of the instructions
- repeat for each additional file

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 5/6/2008 2:49:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've  searched the Help section, and can see where GEDCOMM file compilation 
is  covered, but my need has to do with including people from 3 Legacy files 
into  a single major file.

I have my family details in one file, and now want  to add components of my 
wife's family(families) to my database.

I  understand Split Screen, and have opened 2 files side-by-side and have  
familiarised myself with the mechanics.

Here's what I'd like to  do:

Access my wife's mother's side of the her family, and copy that  information 
to my wife's entry in my DB.

Can I Import (copy?) the whole  branch in one action? She has family back to 
1645 on her mother's side, and  that's a lot of individual copying. Better if 
I could bring them in en  masse.

I assume I could then save the composite file with another name,  and make 
that the file I'll work on from then on.

I've got backups  galore, so can afford to try all options. Any help/advice 
gladly received. And  TIA to anyone who posts.

-- 
Regards

Barrie Smart  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Add a NEW person or Link to an EXISTING person.

[MJMethod]

Lavern,
As it states, the difference is simply whether you  are adding a NEW 
person to the database or linking to one which already is  EXISTING in your 
database.
Example: If you are in the Family tab and you click  on a blank child 
line, it presents you with four unique choices. However, in  other places, such 
as clicking on a blank spouse field, it already knows the  appropriate sex and 
it will offer you two option buttons: "Add a NEW person" and  "Link to an 
EXISTING person."  

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:08:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello.

I'm having a real go-around understanding the difference  between these
two options: "Add a NEW person or Link to an EXISTING  person."  Every
time I enter
an individual whom I know to be a  relative, am I not "Adding a NEW
person", and wouldn't I select that  option?

If I were to add this new person (a relative) and select "Link  to an
Existing person",
that selection takes me to the name list where,  it seems to me, that
I'd have to select
*everyone* in the family (direct  and collateral individuals) to link
this new person?

Could someone  please tell me what I'm missing here?

Thanks so  much.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Blank Screens

[MJMethod]

I've never seen this problem in several years of using Legacy.
 
I will assume that you've kept up with updates, but I'd still  suggest that 
you consider re-downloading the latest release. Sometimes that  has a way of 
'cleaning up' strange problems.

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 4/16/2008 1:25:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've had  this problem since I first started using the program, but it's  
never  caused any "damage" so I just figured it was "one of those  things."   
Tonight, though, there was an issue, so  --

After the program is running for awhile, if I click on a name, when  the  
individual view comes up, there's no data in it.  If I just  "cancel" out,  
close the program (backup stalls, so I don't try to do  that anymore), and  
reopen it, everything's fine.  But tonight  it happened and I lost the  
personal information for the  individual.  He was listed as "unknown" and  
his birth, death  and burial info was gone.  The events and sourced were  
still  there, though.

Since this happens pretty much every day I use it  (because I just start  
everything up in the morning and shut it down  at night -- so it runs all  
day), with all the computers I've used,  it's just something I've gotten  
used to.  But now that I have  lost data, I'd like to know how to avoid it  
happening  again.

Is the solution just to not leave it running so  long?

Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Siblings

[MJMethod]

and 'right click' if you want to go backward with siblings 
(doesn't work for spouses - brings up a different menu)

Mike

Michael J Method

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In a message dated 4/12/2008 5:55:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

GeoSci  wrote:
> Strange - I was viewing FAMILY VIEW and my mouse came to rest  between
> the husband and wife.  A little box popped up and - just  by clicking
> the space between husband and wife - one can see all of  the siblings
> of the highlighted person.

To be pedantic, the  next sibling in sequence :-) down to the last, when 
it beeps and goes back  to the first.

> Anyone discover any other "hidden" (or perhaps I  just never
> discovered) bits in Legacy?

When an individual has  more than 1 spouse, clicking to the left of the 
husband or right of the  wife boxes, causes the next wife or husband to 
come into the Family  View.

Clicking to the left of the husbands parents or right of the  wifes 
parents will, if there is wore than one set of parents, cycle  through 
them as well.

-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Finding placenames and associated family files

[MJMethod]

I think your problem is straight forward:
- go to your Master Location List
- locate the location you are interested in
- on the right side, click on "Show List"
- tag those records (or print the list)
- then do what you want (e.g. print family group sheets, etc.)
 

Mike

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In a message dated 4/11/2008 1:00:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have not  found the way yet to locate a person's file by first finding a 
city they  lived in.  I can find the placenames in the list of cities, 
counties,  towns and all the other 'places'but I cannot then get to 
the persons  linked to that city. 

A friend was going to a small town in Kansas to  do research and asked me 
if I had anything she could look up for me.   I knew someone had lived in 
that city but had no idea who it was.  I  needed to find the town name 
and then get to the family files of people  who'd lived there. 

Can I get advice on how to do this please ?   I've got Legacy version 4.  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding people who are not alive

[MJMethod]

If you enter anything in death or burial fields, it will automatically set  
living to "No".
 

Mike

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In a message dated 2/12/2008 10:03:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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Well,  you can always go to Options - Customize - Data Defaults -
Living Indicator  - NO

Susan


On 2/12/08, Valerie Garton  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to add people  who are not alive and have the not living
> button on permanently to  save having to select it every time ?
>
> Regards from Valerie in  sunny Sydney.
> Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast,  Dublin, Wicklow
> & Wexford
> Guild of One-Name Studies No:  4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON
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Re: [LegacyUG] Criteria you use to add an individual to Legacy?

[MJMethod]

Nothing wrong with your thinking. Your choice.
 
- Some record as much as possible on additional spouses and their  
prior/subsequent families.
- Some go farther on children/siblings of cousins, etc.
- Some also use the database to keep track of "unlinked" people, e.g. you  
don't know "if" or "where" they fit in.
 
And some of it simply depends on how far back you are. 

Mike

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In a message dated 1/12/2008 11:55:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I often read of people who  have thousands and thousands of people in their 
database.  Today I read  of one over 100,000.  I have trouble envisioning where 
all  these people come from  J  I feel like a  slouch - my best branch 
(paternal grandfather) only has about 400  people in it and I thought I was 
doing 
pretty well.  I add direct line  ancestors, of course, their siblings, all 
spouses and children involved.   I also include the parents of any spouses, 
though, 
and generally  just make a note of their siblings.  For instance, the wife of 
my  great-uncle would be included, as would her parents, but that would be 
the end  of her line.  (I hope  I’m explaining this so it can be understood.)  
I 
read  questions about downloading gedcoms found  online.  Perhaps I’m not as 
fortunate  as others, but the gedcoms I’ve found have only  included 3 or 4 
people that would be relevant to me.  In that case, I  import the gedcom into 
its own file, and only enter into my main database the  3 or 4 people.  To do 
otherwise would, to me, create useless  clutter. 
Is  there something wrong with my thinking? 
Claire 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Sherry,
 
I would expect that whatever scanning software is used, you should be able  
to scan the entire flatbed as one image. You may need to 'discard' some of  the 
individual selections it shows you in Preview mode and then stretch the  
remaining dotted outline box to collect what you want.
 
Considering that it could be a collage, you could have many photos and they  
don't all need to be regimented in rows and columns.

Mike

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In a message dated 12/19/2007 11:18:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rich,

I like that idea!  Are the individual pictures large  enough to be readily
viewed when you have a group scanned as one?  I  would think 2-4 would be the
maximum you could include.

Alas, my  scanner senses when there are separate pictures on the glass and
scans each  one separately, unless they're touching!

Thanks for using  Legacy.

Sherry
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]  Reports

Or you can scan multiple pictures into one 'big' one,
not  quick or easy, but creating a page for a book,
might be worth the trouble.  You would then make it
into 'one' page size photo.
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Re: [LegacyUG] photo search

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Cathy,
Thank you! 
I've never checked out all of the Scrapbook features, primarily because I  
wasn't interested in 'slide shows', etc. Having to page through all of the  
attachments isn't perfect, but it gave me the path/picture clues I needed.
 
For JLB, Nancy, and others: I had already been using the Options |  Customize 
| Locations and the Picture Center. That was my problem. It told me I  had 
pictures on a path, but there was no way to work backwards to find out what  
they were or who they were attached to, especially because it retains the 
"path"  
of obsolete directories. That's where the Scrapbook worked.
 
Thanks to all.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 12/18/2007 6:12:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Mike,
Not really.
The closest is the Picture List
See View >  Scrapbook and explore the options there - which include a 
Picture List  which can include a description of what it's linked to.

Cathy

At  12:12 AM 19/12/2007, you wrote:

>Is there any way to find all of the  records (individual, marriage, 
>events, sources, etc) that a specific  photo is attached to?
>
>Related question: Is there any way to  find everything which is 
>supposed to be on a specific
>"Master  Picture/Sound/Video Path"?
>
>Mike
>
>Michael J  Method
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[LegacyUG] photo search

[MJMethod]

 
Is there any way to find all of the records (individual, marriage, events,  
sources, etc) that a specific photo is attached to?
 
Related question: Is there any way to find everything which is supposed to  
be on a specific 
"Master Picture/Sound/Video Path"?


Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] GenSmarts add on question

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I think GenSmarts is outstanding! I used the basic version for a couple of  
years, then upgraded to 2.0 a few months ago. Many ways of filtering which  
records you want to target, to concentrate on specific sources, etc.
 
In particular, it integrates neatly with Legacy (without any Gedcom, etc.)  . 
--- and it is easy to research the sources then toggle back-and-forth to  
Legacy.
 
 

Mike

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In a message dated 12/14/2007 12:06:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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Does the  GenSmarts add on program give you more info than what is available 
in the  research guidance feature built into Legacy?  What is your opinion of 
 
this program?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Including more in Ancestor Report

[MJMethod]

 
 
Barbara,
It is unclear what you are trying to do. 
 
An "Ancestor" report is looking "backward", e.g. from you to your  parents to 
your g-parents, etc.
A "Descendent" report is looking "forward", e.g. from parents to children  to 
g-children, etc.
I do not know any way to both simultaneously. 
 
It sounds like you want your direct-line ancestors backward, and all of  your 
parents' children and g-children, but no other aunts, uncles, cousins,  etc.
 
One possibility: Use a "Multiple Lines of Descent" report (starting as far  
back as you desire), produce it to an RTF file, then "prune and edit" to  
eliminate those who you don't want included.

Mike

Michael J Method



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In a message dated 12/10/2007 8:15:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If I  want a report to be about all my ancestors AND include not only my
children  but my grandchildren AND include my siblings' children and
grandchildren,  what do I need to do? Is it some report other than ancestor
report, because  I'm checking everything I think I should check in the
include tab for the  ancestor report, and have not been successful with
including who I want to  include.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Emigration/Immigration

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I would have a "Passport" event and a "Travel" or "Tourist" or "Expatriate"  
event. 
 
Once he is a naturalized American citizen, he's a tourist or Expatriate ---  
like anyone else --- unless he has returned to the home country (or elsewhere) 
 permanently. 

Mike

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In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:47:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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I'm having enough trouble keeping straight when a  person emigrates and when 
he/she immigrates, but what do I call it when a  naturalized American citizen 
sails back to his home country for a visit? I  looked through all the Event 
Definitions and can't find anything. Is there an  Event Definition for a 
citizen 
sailing? I've just added an Event Definition  for Passport because that's 
where I found this information.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] A question about sources and how to format

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Michelle,
Just a comment about your reference to "under  details I put this the 
town, county, ED, , name of household, dwelling #, family  #, line #, sheet" ---
For virtually any online source I find (especially  Ancestry, various 
state databases, obituaries or indexes, etc), I highlight the  info, then copy 
and paste it into the Source Text or the Source Detail Text.  Then supplement 
or 
annotate as necessary. Saves a lot of typing and carries the  exact info you 
found online.

Mike

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In a message dated 11/28/2007 9:02:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do you  make a source for every marriage license you have or do you make a 
source  MARRIAGE LICENSE and then change the details to match up with the  
individual license?  They reason I ask is on the video Geoff was  entering a 
census source and he entered in a source that was specific to  the city, 
county, state.  I have a single source for the 1910 Federal  Census and I 
have the source info filled out with the general  info...

Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database  on-line]. Provo, 
UT, USA: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2006. For details on the  contents of the film 
numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA  Original data: United 
States of America, Bureau of the Census. Thirteenth  Census of the United 
States, 1910. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and  Records 
Administration, 1910. T624, 1,178 rolls.

Then under details  I put this the town, county, ED, , name of household, 
dwelling #, family  #, line #, sheet (whatever if appropriate for that census 
year.

If  I were to put a seperate source for every single juridiction for every  
single year my source list would be unmanageable.  How do y'all do  this??

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Re: [LegacyUG] IntelliShare

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Somewhat familiar with IntelliShare. My sister and I use the same database,  
doing a merge several times a year. It is marvelous for reducing the confusion 
 and effort of merging files from another Legacy file.
 
The IntelliShare "number" is internal to Legacy, automatic,  
behind-the-scenes. I don't think there's any way of seeing it unless you know  
Access. I think 
it is unique to Legacy and no other gene database.
 
To my knowledge, it is not exported with a Gedcom, only with Legacy.  And it 
stays with each person record, whether you export your entire file or  only a 
subset.
 
I don't think it has any intelligent information about multimedia. Rather,  
its purpose is to recognize that "John Doe" in one file  = "John Doe" in  
another file, even if there has been a name change, parents change, etc.

Mike

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In a message dated 11/23/2007 1:15:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Is anyone familiar with the ins-and-outs fo  intellishare? It sounds like a 
good idea, but I'm not sure the documentaion  explains it completely.
So I have a few questions:
Legacy is said to assign a serial number to a  datafile for use by 
Intellishare; is that automatic, or must one initiate that  when sending out a 
copy of 
the master file?
Does the file sent out have to be a Legacy  file, or a gedcom, or...?
Does the intelishare file have to be the entire  family file, or can sub-sets 
of a larger file be used?
Does intellishare compare picture/sound paths as  part of the merge, i.e., 
must all users have the same path structure to  external  objects?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Format Importance

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
1. The format of locations is important for consistency (and to make it a  
lot easier to find the right one in the sorted list!). They generally are  
entered and viewed from smallest jurisdiction to largest. However, the  
city/county/state/country format does not suit every situation (or personal  
preferences). There are various discussions in the archives about that.
 
2. Yes, you should generally be able to edit directly in the Master list of  
Locations, including the option of merging locations which should have been 
the  same (e.g. spelling errors, county omitted, etc.)
 
3. If you don't add a space after a comma, Legacy will do it  automatically.

Mike

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In a message dated 11/19/2007 8:34:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Am I understanding correctly that the  format of locations is very important 
(perhaps for things I may want to do  with that field?)? Would it then be a 
good idea (or wasted time) to go into  all my locations that I've just imported 
and change them all to the correct  format? If it is a good idea, then is 
there a quick way (such as perhaps  editing the Master Location list rather 
than 
each individual?--just guessing).  Also, when leaving commas in for 
placeholders (I did watch the training  video!), should I leave a space between 
the 
commas, and/or before the known  word? For example, often I do not know the 
county. 
So should I type  Springfield,,MO, USA or Springfield, , MO, USA, or 
Springfield,, MO, USA.  Sorry to be so AR, but I don't want to change every 
location 
field and then  find out I should have been more specific.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Photo locations

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I agree with resizing and (somewhat) with renumbering.
 
1. I created a "My Gene Archives" directory (or whatever you want to  name 
it) that is separate from "My Pictures" (though some photos may be in  both). 
This holds photos, PDF, doc, text, and any other items I want to keep for  
genealogical purposes.
I use an MRIN File ID and a matching naming  structure for 
photos/docs/etc., e.g. "123-001 Method Francis 50th Anniv",  "123-002 Method 
Francis birth 
cert", etc. 
 
2. For anything which I want to attach to Legacy, I try to create a  
low-resolution copy (e.g. 640x480). 
My low-res copy could be "123-002w Method Francis birth cert".
 
3. I have a Legacy folder in My Documents with sub-folders for Data and  
Attachments. The low-res copy is moved to the Attachments folder. I do have 
some  
subdivisions within Attachments, but that is personal choice.
 
All of this gives me 1) a stable location for all digital archives, easily  
backed up, 2) low res images which Legacy can handle easily, 3) a stable  
location for Legacy attachments.

Mike

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In a message dated 11/1/2007 6:13:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If one goes to the trouble of resizing, I  would suggest one more step... 
renaming all the pics to fit into one folder  only (well, maybe 2 or 3).
 
Instead of having folders and sub-folders  >> make those names part of the 
file name, with incremental  numbers for people in the same family,e.g.,

 
Pearce_John_A01
Pearce_John_A02
Pearce_Leo_A03
...

Pearse_Cole_Adam_01
Pearse_Cole_Adam_02

 
Or any name-numbering scheme to your  liking.  The point is, the families are 
together, they are all in one  folder and moving, backup, and crashes are 
easy to fix.  Renaming can be  done using batch processing for each folder, 
then 
merge all... et  voila.
 
Cheers,
Boris
 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007  15:42
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Photo  locations


I've been through this and have 1 suggestion & 1  comment.

First, if you have not already made a smaller byte version  of pictures for
Legacy, this is a good time to do it.  I disregarded  the advice to do this
many pictures ago and eventually got to when books  & reports with pictures
were such large files that I couldn't zip  them small enough to send
ancestor reports via e-mail to  cousins.

Second, like Jay I use a lot of folders for pics which make  sense to me.
This means moving to a new drive made for a lot of  work.  I found that
using the function to check picture paths was a  lot of help as I got close
to finishing - and made sure nothing was  inadvertently skipped.


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[LegacyUG] Reducing PDF files

[MJMethod]

 
Does anyone know how I could make a copy of a PDF file which would  
significantly reduce the size of the file? 
 
I have a number of PDF files which are several megabits in size. That uses  a 
lot of disk space for the multimedia files. 
 
Unlike JPG's where you can make copies in reduced size and dpi, I can find  
no comparable utility for PDF's. (I do not have the original available to me, 
so  I can't do anything like scan it at a lower resolution, although I guess I 
could  print out what I have and then re-scan it.)

 

Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] Search Help Pleas

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Jan,
Are you using Sources? If so, then go to Master Sources, locate the death  
certificate sources, for each one (or at least those from Utah, depending on 
how 
 you have them organized) use Show List and then Tag those records [whatever 
tag  # you want].
 
Then add that tag to your search criteria. You'll still need two passes in  
the search
1. find everyone with criteria 1: the surname 
  criteria  2: died after 12/31/1904
   criteria 3: died before 01/01/1955
2. re-search the Search List for
  criteria  1: Death location equal Utah
   criteria 2: Tag #[whatever you used with 
the death certs] equal to  Untagged

Mike

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In a message dated 10/24/2007 8:37:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Basically I'm trying to find all those in my file with a  particular
surname, with death date after 1904 or before 1955 - not a  problem so
far - I then want to search this list for those individuals with  death
place containing Utah [still no problem] - then comes my  stumbling
block I want to search for those in this result list who do not  have
an event of death certificate

As you can probably guess I'm  wanting a list of individuals with death
date between two dates and death  place of Utah for which I still need
to locate a death  certificate.

Any help as always would be  appreciated
Jan





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Re: [LegacyUG] Event sorting

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I generally sort by date because I usually want it to "read comfortably".  
However, that still gets adjusted when a) you have multiple event records with  
the same date, or b) you need to make a point, e.g. completely covering  
someone's career before picking up on other events in their life.

Mike

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In a message dated 10/14/2007 7:18:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do  people sort their events by type or
chronologically?

I was sorting  by type (censuses, residences,
occupations), but you end up duplicating  information
following this  method.

Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Grandaugher without parents?

[MJMethod]

 
 
I  have several such situations. I create an Unknown given name under the 
Surname,  with an explanation in the Notes, then create the Grandson or 
Granddaughter,  again with an explanation in the Notes.
At some point you will (hopefully) figure out the  relationship. Then it 
is a simple process to either a) convert "Unknown" to the  name of a newly 
discovered child, or b) move the Grandson/Granddaughter to their  correct 
parent 
and then delete the Unknown.

Mike

Michael J Method
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In a message dated 10/11/2007 7:28:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  obtained a Census re my Ancestors. However, also listed on the Census 
are two  entries. One is a male, with a different Surname, but listed as 
Granson, 11  yrs old. The other is the main family Surname, listed as 
Grandaughter 
(5 yrs  old). I have know ideat who the parents were at this stage. Does 
anyone know  how to enter them into Legacy as somehow linked to the family? Or 
do 
I enter  them as individuals with no link at this stage. Begginer user. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] "< >" brackets

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Rob,
Count me as one that uses the <> - but only for  locations. Dates have 
specific options that are understood by Legacy (Abt, Est,  etc). 
If RootsWeb or other destinations strip the  , is that any worse 
than leaving undocumented fields blank in the  first place?
Using the <> gives me (and my family readers) a  quick visual clue that 
what I have is not only an "educated guess" but  undocumented. That helps with 
researching. Example: I may have a source for a  marriage in Minnesota, I am 
virtually certain that it was in St Louis County,  but I don't know if it was 
in Duluth.
BTW, I have had no problems with Legacy, GenSmarts, or  other programs.
I do have a few places where I use "probably" or other  terms, all of 
them where I despair of ever finding documentation but want  to include 
something 
to "tell the story", e.g. a wagon train that "probably"  stopped in 
Montana.

Mike

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In a message dated 10/8/2007 5:07:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  recently created a GEDCOM and noticed one of the options was:

[ ]  Suppress  and 

Do people use the  "< >" brackets when they are estimating/calculating dates
and places?  I couldn't find anything in the Legacy manual about them. Are
the "<  >" brackets strictly to make estimated information stand  out?

Thanks!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Keeping two databases and their media files in sync

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I also do this regularly with my sister.
 
One item to check: use the "File | File Maintenance | Compact Family File"  
selection to reduce the size of your file. I've had occasions that it reduced  
50%.

Mike

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In a message dated 8/25/2007 4:17:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Here's a  question.  My sister and I are both running Legacy 6.0.  We 
want  to keep our databases in sync, and can exchange backup files, then 
merge  them to accomplish that.

Is there an easy way to do the same with media  files?  Mine is about 
40MB right now, and so can't be sent as an  e-mail attachment.  Is there 
a good way to transfer them via  FTP?  What about differences between the 
two media files.  Is  there a good way to merge such files?

I notice that Legacy only backs  up the primary Pictures folder, and no 
sub-folders.  I like to keep  documents in a sub-folder, group photos in 
another sub-folder, and photos  of places and things in yet another 
sub-folder, while all photos of  individuals are in the Pictures folder.  
I know that I can create my  own media backup using WinZip, and include 
those three sub-folders, but it  would be very handy if Legacy could do 
that on its own.

I would be  very interested to hear any suggestions/experiences along 
these  lines.

Thanks,

John

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[LegacyUG] How can I find events without(or with) sources?

[MJMethod]

 
It is easy to "show list" of everyone who is using a particular source(s).  
But there are many, many sources which could be the source(s) of a particular  
event, e.g. Birth, which could be supported by birth certificates, military  
records, death records, and innumerable online database indexes, etc.). 
 
But I cannot find a way to search for records which do NOT have any source  
attached, e.g. find all birth dates/locations which (do)(do not) have at least  
some sort of documentation.
 
Is that possible?


Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing census citations

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Karl,
You've seen other good responses, especially about providing corrections to  
"sources" like Ancestry which accept them.
 
I typically copy/paste source info into the Source Text or the Detail. If  
there is a "correction", it is noted as such (e.g. today I had an Ancestry 
entry 
 of "Susie" in the index - which clearly should have been "Cecelia" if you 
look  at the original).
I also agree with the other comments about those  who have Given/Middle 
names reversed.
Whether or not such name differences make it into  AKA or a Nickname is a 
judgement - based primarily on an estimate of  whether it was a name which 
was intentionally used or merely an accident of  either the original record 
keeper or the indexer. Even if it doesn't warrant AKA  or Nickname, it usually 
becomes part of a note which describes possible  "confusions" about the name.

Mike

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In a message dated 8/3/2007 1:09:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  wondering what you all do as far as citing the source when you run 
across  
someone who is improperly indexed in the census.  Do you record them  in the 
source with their accurate name, their indexed name from the  census, or with 
notes explaining both?

My inclination is to use  their correct name, but if you do that and someone 
else 
uses your source  to try to find them, they won't because they're under a 
different  name.



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Re: [LegacyUG] "Non-standard" locations

[MJMethod]

 
 
I quite agree with Wendy. The issue is accurate research balanced with  
"readability". The only problem I can see with recording "non-standard"  
locations 
is how you locate/sort them in the Locations Master List.
 
Those of us in the USA have locations in Canada, Europe, South America, and  
Australia. That's my struggle, but as long as I can keep the numerous 
London's,  Manchester's, Berlin's, and other locations straight, I'll be OK.


And even Legacy has a problem with it's own rules. In their Geo Location  
List: look up "DC" as a state (Washington, D.C.) - most of the "cities" 
were/are  
nothing more than "neighborhoods", and never were organized towns or other  
entities, much like the "townlands" in Ireland and elsewhere.

Mike

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In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:04:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Hear,  Hear, Wendy, let common sense prevail over specifications which only 
fit  the USA.

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>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]  "Non-standard" locations
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:31:23  +1200
>
>Hi Marcellyn,
>
>There have been some  excellent posts on this subject in response to yours 
>already.   What I wanted to add is in relation to your question "what data 
>do I  put in which of the four parts of the location".  I'd say don't sweat  
>over the "four parts", and enter the location as it  was.
>
>Here in New Zealand, there's often only three, and even  then some of those 
>would be just as accurate listed as two (Auckland  and Wellington come to 
>mind,as there is only one place by either name  and aren't going to be 
>confused with another, so no need to also name  the province/district/region 
>of the same name).
>
>The  point behind your data entry is for yourself and others who read your  
>data to understand what you mean, so if the three-part placename is an  
>accurate reflection of what the place was called at the time of the  event 
>to which it's attached, then it has done its job.   :-)
>
>Hope this helps.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] how to list townships

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
You won't have any problem with reports.
 
You may have complications with the Geo Location List in Ancestry or  add-ons 
like GenSmarts. That's not a "problem" unless you want to worry about  it. 
 
Just don't forget that there are several things which can happen with  
Townships
  1. They continue to be Townships (usually more rural) and are the  key 
governmental unit within a County, so "twp, county, state,  country".
  2. They evolve or convert to a city structure, in which case they  remain 
the key governmental unit within a County but they are actually the  successor. 
They may or may not keep the original township name. So they are now:  "city, 
county, state, country" after a certain date.
  3. They are piece-by-piece absorbed into one or more towns or  cities, and 
at some point cease to exist.
  4. Both the township and city could continue for the same property.  Then 
you have to decide what to use, depending on your purpose, including  "city, 
twp, county, state, country".
 
And just so they can keep us all smiling, school districts and the Post  
Office don't necessarily follow the same borders!  :-))

Mike

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In a message dated 6/9/2007 8:09:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm so  glad this question was asked.  I have been wondering about this  for
some time.  Many of the states in the Midwest that I search have  much of
their data listed by township (US GenWeb sites).  I inherited  my mother's
genealogy work; now I'm trying to verify it.  Fortunately  she included the
township names so it makes it much easier to locate the  information.

So will reports come out OK if for USA info, I enter city,  twp, county,
state and location for other countries as city, county, state,  country?  I'm
just entering data in Legacy for now; I don't have  enough entered to even
try reports yet.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Susan Daily
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:15 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how to list  townships

Hi Melanie,
I don't have my file open, but what I think I  have done in the past is
in cases where there is a township and a city to  write it as such in
the Long form: City - township, county, state, country  because this
way it sorts alphabetically with the city. I rewrite it in the  short
form to read the way I want it to, in reports. For townships  without
cities, I list them as Township, County, State, Country, and in  the
short form I use the abbreviation Twp.

Susan  Daily





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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries in death event address (was Sorting Burial Locations)

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Melanie - 
Yes, just like Burial Notes. However, unless you are editing the report in  a 
word processor, there does not seem to be any way to restrict the printing of 
 various detail (phone numbers, notes, etc.) so I am a bit careful about how 
much  I enter in the "address". It's not bad, but it is clutter. In any event, 
this  lets my Locations be simplified and consistent with  
City,County,State,Country.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 6/7/2007 9:33:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And when you enter a cemetery in the death event address, will it show up  in 
reports?
 
Melanie


On 6/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote:  
 
 
 
 
Apart from the suggestions to use "Locations" --
 
Whenever I have a known burial, I use the Event Address. And I do use  
"cemetery" or "mausoleum" in the name. 
 

Mike

Michael J Method
phone= 317-284-1303 
family  research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  


In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:13:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:

I am  wanting to list all my cemeteries in the database.

Is there a way  to sort this in the master list>locations to only show a 
list of  burial  locations?

Thanks,

Joe









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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting Burial Locations

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Apart from the suggestions to use "Locations" --
 
Whenever I have a known burial, I use the Event Address. And I do use  
"cemetery" or "mausoleum" in the name. 
 
You can get to all of them from: Master lists, Addresses, Event. Then you  
can tag the ones you want, review the list of records which use the address,  
print the list, etc.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:13:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  wanting to list all my cemeteries in the database.

Is there a way to  sort this in the master list>locations to only show a 
list of burial  locations?

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes for Name fields

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Bert: I appreciate those fields and that is my question for comparison. I  
use all of those note fields and I have frequently used the "Birth" notes to  
hold some commentary on the names. -- but there is no comparable "note" field  
for names.
 
Mitch: I do add comments in Source Details, but unless you print all of the  
sources, those don't print in, for example, a Descendent Narrative report. 
Also,  the notes I want to record are frequently about my logic for why I 
settled 
on a  particular name, or how I found it, or why a spelling change to the 
name may  have occurred, or why a nickname or AKA was used.

Mike


Michael J Method



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In a message dated 5/24/2007 9:22:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>From the help:
 
 
Additional Information for Birth,  Christening, Death and Burial fields. 
At the right end of the Birth, Christening,  Death and Burial fields there is 
a button  that lets you add notes, addresses, and pictures that are  specific 
to these fields.  Click on the  for the Born field, for example, pops up a 
shortcut  menu with the options: Birth Address, Birth Notes, Birth  Pictures.  
Clicking on the desire option opens the appropriate window  for adding the 
information. 
Bert


 
In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:43:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Mike,
 
If you go to the source detail there is an option for  comments and I use 
that.  This then becomes specific to  the source, but I find that my comments 
are 
almost always specific to a  particular source. 
 
Cheers, Mitch


On 5/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote:  
 
Does anyone have suggestions for the best way to  attach notes to the Name 
fields (Given, Surname, Prefix,  Suffix, AKA)?
- there are numerous occasions when I need to  provide comments or 
explanations about Names
- all other Events let us attach notes to the  respective events (Birth, 
Occupation, Residence, etc.), but the only way to  have notes associated with 
Names is to either a) put it in general notes, or  b) create another event for 
"Name". Neither of those options is attractive  (even though I'm doing it). 
 
Am I missing something or should this be on the New Feature list?
 

Mike


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[LegacyUG] Notes for Name fields

[MJMethod]

Does anyone have  suggestions for the best way to attach notes to the Name 
fields (Given, Surname,  Prefix, Suffix, AKA)?
- there are numerous occasions when I need to  provide comments or 
explanations about Names
- all other Events let us attach notes to the  respective events (Birth, 
Occupation, Residence, etc.), but the only way to have  notes associated with 
Names is to either a) put it in general notes, or b)  create another event for 
"Name". Neither of those options is attractive (even  though I'm doing it).
 
Am I missing something or should this be on the New Feature list?
 

Mike


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fix the MissingSspace in Reports

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Thanks!!! Tips like this are a big part of making this list work!

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 5/3/2007 6:51:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  missing space can be fixed ... Until the programmers fix it for  good.

In the some Wording 2 tab in Report settings, instead of a space  after the
colon, enter what is often referred to as a hard space (Alt 0160,  hold down
the Alt key and enter 0160 on the numeric keypad). It worked for  me and is a
lot easier than fixing it in Word or Acrobat. 

C.G.  Ouimet
Kingston, ON





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Re: [LegacyUG] Recent Modifications

[MJMethod]

 
 
Ron,
 
Not so, unless I'm missing something.. 
 
If you edit person A, it updates the "Modified Date" (which shows in bottom  
right of Family view).
 
If you go to another family and edit only the marriage, it affects persons  B 
& C, and it displays an updated date in the same place. 
 
However, if you do a Search (Individual, modified date, after, date) you  
will only result in person A. 
If you add the second condition (Marriage, Marr. Modified Date, after,  date) 
you will get persons A, B, and C.
 
Mike

Michael J  Method
Indianapolis, IN, USA (presently in  Florida)
family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley
 
In a message dated 2/10/2007 8:56:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mike,

If I understand you correctly you will find that the  marriage information is 
at the end of both individual's Individual Pages  and hence the modified date 
will show up for both.

Ron  Ferguson

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>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recent  Modifications
>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:21:29  EST
>
>
>
>You may want to add a second condition for  Marriage. That  will pick up
>situations where you may have  modified the marriage info without  touching 
>either
>of the  spouses.
>
>Mike
>
>Michael J   Method
>Indianapolis, IN, USA (presently in Florida)
>family  research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck,  Belsley
>
>In a message dated 2/7/2007 7:08:54 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
>
>Cricket,
>
>Go to  Search>Find>Detailed Search
>
>On the  first row  select:
>
>Search for whom: Individual
>Where to look:   Modified Date
>How to look: After
>What to look for: 5 February  2007 (or  whatever date suits)
>
>Check that the radio button  at the bottom "clear  list before this search" 
>is  set
>
>Click "Create".
>
>On the  screen which  appears:
>
>Click "Options"
>Click Advanced   Tagging
>
>Select a convenient Tag number
>
>Click  "Everyone in Search  List"
>
>Ron   Ferguson
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>
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>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/
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>  >From:  "Cricket Hackmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >Reply-To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To:   
> >Subject: [LegacyUG]  Recent  Modifications
> >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:25:49  -0600
> >
> >Is  there a way to search for (or tag)  records that have been modified
> >within
> >a certain time  period?  For instance, say I wanted  to search for all the
>  >records that had been modified in the last 24  hours?  I've  played around
> >with the search function, but can't  find what  I'm looking for.  Legacy 
>does
> >keep track of the  date  that each record is modified...so I was hoping  
>there
> >was a way to  search using that  criteria.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cricket   Hackmann







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Re: [LegacyUG] Recent Modifications

[MJMethod]

 
 
You may want to add a second condition for Marriage. That  will pick up 
situations where you may have modified the marriage info without  touching 
either 
of the spouses.


Mike

Michael J  Method


Indianapolis, IN, USA (presently in Florida)
family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 7:08:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Cricket,

Go to Search>Find>Detailed Search

On the  first row select:

Search for whom: Individual
Where to look:  Modified Date
How to look: After
What to look for: 5 February 2007 (or  whatever date suits)

Check that the radio button at the bottom "clear  list before this search" is 
set

Click "Create".

On the  screen which appears:

Click "Options"
Click Advanced  Tagging

Select a convenient Tag number

Click "Everyone in Search  List"

Ron  Ferguson




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>From:  "Cricket Hackmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To:  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>To:  
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Recent  Modifications
>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:25:49 -0600
>
>Is  there a way to search for (or tag) records that have been modified  
>within
>a certain time period?  For instance, say I wanted  to search for all the
>records that had been modified in the last 24  hours?  I've played around
>with the search function, but can't  find what I'm looking for.  Legacy does
>keep track of the date  that each record is modified...so I was hoping there
>was a way to  search using that criteria.
>
>Thanks,
>Cricket  Hackmann





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Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing files

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Since you used the drag & drop, I assume the file you received is in  Legacy.
 
Open that file, then assign a tag to EITHER all that you DID merge OR all  
that you DID NOT merge (not both). Then you can easily do a search listing and  
print the report for what you want.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 1/13/2007 10:45:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've  just received someone else's family who is related to me.
I have gone  through and compared files (Tools/Compare Files) and updated 
data on the  same people by using split screen and drag and drop.

BUT how do I get a  list of all those that are on the new file that aren't on 
mine.

In  other words I want to see who he has on his file that I don't have on  
mine.
It looks like about 200 names that I want to list  out.

Regards

Graeme Ellis
The Goldfields
Western Australia  





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Re: [LegacyUG] New copies of Source documents

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Dave,
I believe you have to edit one or more items on the primary screen (long  
name, short name,etc.) before it will offer that popup. I've occasionally  
forgotten and had the same problem.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 12/30/2006 6:52:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am not  sure, but I would think you would only get the pop-up if you had 
used that  source somewhere. If it is new and you haven't used it yet, there 
would be  no need to ask if you wanted to apply the changes to all  
occurences.
Nancy

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To:  
Subject: [LegacyUG] New copies  of Source documents
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:01:30 -0800

I'm  wanting to copy a source document to a new source and then make changes
to  it.

I used to get the dialog box asking if I want to apply changes to  all
occurrences of create a new source.

I no longer seem to get  this, it just changes the original source.

How much do I have to change  or what fields need to be changed for it to ask
the question so I can  create a new source instead of changing the  original





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Re: [LegacyUG] Filing methods and family group sheets

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
One possibility: Use the Publishing Center as if you were producing a book,  
only it would be a stack of Family Group sheets in the order you want them. 
Your  "batches" of sheets are probably fairly stable, so you can create as many 
 
"books" as you want and reuse them.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 12/30/2006 4:44:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Everyone,
I have been following the numerous discussions on filing systems  with 
interest.
I like the idea of the MRIN filing system but for me can  see one drawback. 
When visiting relatives that how do you take your  information with you when 
you don't have a laptop computer and your  information is filed in different 
folders under the MRIN?
I have been  filing my family group sheets in folders according to the family 
 
line.
As I am in Australia and most relatives are interested in the  ancestors that 
arrived and the descendants down so I use the immigrants as  the starting 
point. If the family is a large one and too much for one  folder, I give each 
child and their family a new folder. I then file the  group sheets in the 
order as laid out in a Descendant Report.
One  problem that arrises is when printing out a batch of family group 
sheets,  they print out in alphabetical order and there is no way that I can 
see to  change this to an order similar to the descendant report.
Does any one have  any suggestions or ideas.
Regards
Anne Eccles
Scone, NSW  





Mike

Michael J Method

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Re: [LegacyUG] HTML codes - how to get rid of!

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
I have generally found most such "copy & paste" HTML problems when  using 
Internet Explorer rather than Netscape. Also, there doesn't seem to be a  
consistent pattern between web sites.

Mike

Michael J Method




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In a message dated 12/30/2006 7:26:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  recently upgraded to Legacy De Luxe, and I have found a problem which 
did  not occur with the standard edition.
When copying details from websites  such as IGI and BMDfree, the details 
appeared without HTML coding when  entered into source details.
Now they still appear without HTML coding in  the source details, however, in 
the grey area below, which summarises the  details, HTML code appears.
For newly entered details this happens  straightaway, but for older entries 
the HTML only appears if I look at the  details!

Example – :

Marriages Sep 1887
BARKER Gertrude Lily  Alverstoke  2b910
HAINES Charles Alverstoke 2b910

Appears in grey box  as

Marriages Sep 1887
BARKER Gertrude Lily Alverstoke  2b   <>910<>
HAINES Charles  Alverstoke<>  2b<>910

On some entries this makes the details almost  unreadable.  Clicking on 
‘Strip HTML makes no difference.
Has  anyone got an answer to this?
Margaret






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlikely but well documented lines

[MJMethod]

 
 
I agree with Susan. 
 
I have done similar "link" or "placeholder" names.  I have several of 
them in my database for three purposes: 1) the "disproven" as  you've noted, 
where you want to report that something is false, 2) the  "placeholder" where I 
know there is a linkage but don't have names/details yet,  and 3) a few 
"unrelated" family lines with same names, where I find it easier to  handle it 
within 
one family database rather than repeatedly using split-screen,  etc.
Depending on whom I am publishing something to, I  may or may not remove 
these from the report. And if I wanted to produce a  "pure" database (e.g. for 
putting up on RootsWeb or Ancestry), it would be easy  to do.

Mike

Michael J Method




In a message dated 12/29/2006 12:28:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I would  just leave it as notes, personally, and unlink the incorrect
information.  If you leave the links in there, the notes can disappear,
and you will just  have added to the propagation of the erroneous
information. Or what you  might do, to make it even more clear, is
create a bridge link person that  states in given name "This line has
been proven to be untrue." And in the  Surname field, put in the false
connection's name as "Surname-Given  Name-Father of so-and-so".

Add this bridge person to the false  connection's children list, and
make this bridge person the parent of the  last proven ancestor. Change
the wording on the bridge person's name to  reflect the actual
situation. It adds a generation, but does it matter at  this point
since it is unproven?

Susan Daily

On 12/27/06,  Cary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the people I can  prove are historical I have added comments as to what
> stories are not  true with Myth Events.  However, how can I document that I
> know  of the alleged-but-unlikely-to-exist early ancestors but am entering
>  them only so that people will know I am aware of the myths but either  have
> disproved them or very much doubt their truth?  I'd like the  totally
> unproven and unlikely generations to appear in reports in  Italics (along
> with their Myth events).  If I break the link then  they don't print at all
> and others could think I was unaware of the  allegations rather than having
> disproved them with a lovely week at  the PRO in Kew.
>
> Cary
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Data--basic choices

[MJMethod]

 
 
 
Use this link
 
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Mike

Michael J Method



 
In a message dated 12/17/2006 9:24:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Excuse  my ignorance, but where do I find the LUG Archives?I'm sure it's  
obvious once
I have the location, but some days I'm lucky to find my  keyboard.   I'm also 
sure the
Archives would be fascinating  reading.   And save the Group many of my fresh 
questions
that  have already been exhaustively answered.

Wm. Hathaway


-  Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  
Sent: Sunday, December 17,  2006 3:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Data--basic  choices



Dick,

As you have identified there are many ways  of entering the data and each of 
us has our own preferences.
It is  probably worth your while having a look in the LUG Archives as this 
has  been a topic of many discussions.

Ron  Ferguson



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>  Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:06:57 -0500
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>  Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Data--basic choices
>
> I'm still new  at Legacy and am trying to deal with all the options
> available to  me.
>
> For example--I have a death certificate with a lot of good  information
> on it about the deceased's parents, cause of death,  birthplace, etc.
> I know that I need to enter it as a source that can  be cited for the
> death date, death place, and burial place, etc. and I  know how to
> attach a source once I create it.
>
> But--I  would like to record/transcribe all of the information on the
>  certificate to someplace where it will be most useful for other users
>  and for my own research.  Would it be better to put it  in...
>
> 1. the death notes
>
> 2. the general  notes
>
> 3. an event called "death certificate" with the info in  the event notes.
>
> 4. in the source text field.  I've read  in the LUG that some people
> transcribe the source into the source  citation but it seems to me,
> from the training tapes, that sources are  meant to show where the
> information comes from and not be the  information itself.  It also
> seems awkward to have important  information down in the endnotes.
>
> 5. there are probably other  choices.?
>
> I'd appreciate any insights you might share on  how to deal with such
> choices.  I assume that the choices I make  now are going to have a big
> impact later when I do more complex  reports and research and I don't
> want to be one of those folks who  eventually realize they need to redo
> a lot of work.
>
>  Thanks.
> Dick  Nixon

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Data--basic choices

[MJMethod]

 
I agree that the best place  to record the 'actual' document/transcript/or 
even images is within the Source  or Source Detail. This should be a faithful 
transcription, extraction, copy,  scan image, photo, etc. of the actual source, 
perhaps with "comments" (clearly  marked as your own) in the appropriate 
places. Almost always, the information in  these sources is stilted, structured 
for 
bureaucratic purposes, or even still  subject to question or interpretation. 
 
If you then want to provide more readable detail and narrative which will  
reproduce in various reports, you can enter it in any of the appropriate 
"Notes" 
 locations.
 
Mike

Michael J  Method




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unicode Support

[MJMethod]

 
 
I don't want to put words or commitment into Legacy's mouth, but I was  
recently told the following because of a specific problem I had: "Currently  
Legacy 
will only work with Western European fonts.  Legacy was developed  with 
Visual Basic 6.0 and our goal over the next year is to port it to the new  
VB.Net 
development tool which will allow us to have full Unicode support."
 
Mike

Michael J  Method


In a message dated 12/15/2006 8:25:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  installed various languages and keyboards on my XP pro system along
with  extended support for Notepad.  Legacy does display unicode fonts
in  the notes fields but the typical entry fields (surname) don't
support  viewing the fonts, only Legacy Special character set.

Having done work  of this type in Oracle I know that the fields need to
support double-byte  characters to work with Unicode.  It seems the
note field does support  this but not the other fields.  Or at least I
can't get it to  work.

Jim


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[LegacyUG] Tracking non-relatives

[MJMethod]

Is there a recommended way of tracking various individuals who  have either a 
long-term or momentary relationship? Examples would be servants,  clergymen, 
slaves, etc.  
For now, I can only see recording various notes and (in some  cases) keeping 
track of separate families which I can "publish" as a separate  chapter. 
   It would seem even better if Legacy could permit additional  kinds of 
"relationship" linkages.

 

Mike

Michael J  Method




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